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1
Sea Mexican!  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:43:17pm

Reposting from the previous thread:

Recently the governor of PR gave his equivalent of the SotU. Here’s a point of view of his speech:

caribbeanbusiness.com

Something to remember: teachers and policemen earn around $21k a year.

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Sea Mexican!  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:45:26pm

Excellent song!

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Kragar  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:49:25pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:54:00pm
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Kafitrar  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:55:56pm

From the previous thread.
re: #222 Belafon

I know it’s complicated. I’m not sure what kind of emissions those plants have.

I don’t know either. It looks like Decatur Deb knows.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:58:06pm

re: #4 Stanley Sea

*Gag*

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:00:52pm

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

*Gag*

Ya know, someone did it. Made an ad about it.

Probably should try before I die.

You don’t know what you don’t know & all that.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:01:30pm

re: #7 Stanley Sea

The salami, hard boiled egg & onion one.

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austin_blue  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:03:19pm

Repost from downstairs—->

re: #207 whitebeach

Half of my neighbors’ take on this and probable FNC chyron: “NY Nigro responsible for helicopter crash.”

There are a couple of little towns in Louisiana. Waterproof is south and west of Vicksburg, and Dry Creek is southwest of Alexandria. One night in the mid-50’s, a guy from the former drove into a bayou in the latter and died.

The Times-Picayune had what my be the best headline evah:

“Waterproof Negro Drowns in Dry Creek”

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:07:19pm

re: #5 Kafitrar

From the previous thread.

I don’t know either. It looks like Decatur Deb knows.

Whole lot of stuff that OSHA/NIOSH hate. CO would be the least of it, and some could be recovered in the later plants for use as chemical precursors. Mostly, we just breathed it. Some of the coke itself wound up chemically bonded to different kinds of steel, melted in with limestone. After skimming in the furnaces, the incandescent slag would be loaded into railcars and hauled miles, to be tipped over the elevated railbed. A trainload would look like lava pouring down the dump.

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Single-handed sailor  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:10:32pm
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Kafitrar  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:12:40pm

re: #10 Decatur Deb

Whole lot of stuff that OSHA/NIOSH hate. CO would be the least of it, and some could be recovered in the later plants for use as chemical precursors. Mostly, we just breathed it. Some of the coke itself wound up chemically bonded to different kinds of steel, melted in with limestone. After skimming in the furnaces, the incandescent slag would be loaded into railcars and hauled miles, to be tipped over the elevated railbed. A trainload would look like lava poring down the dump.

Wow, that’s terrifying.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:13:07pm

re: #11 Single-handed sailor

flickr.com

That’s it, totally. A dump was behind the drive-in movie near us. I’d watch the slag rather than the mushy romances.

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whitebeach  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:13:19pm

re: #9 austin_blue

Repost from downstairs—->

re: #207 whitebeach

Half of my neighbors’ take on this and probable FNC chyron: “NY Nigro responsible for helicopter crash.”

There are a couple of little towns in Louisiana. Waterproof is south and west of Vicksburg, and Dry Creek is southwest of Alexandria. One night in the mid-50’s, a guy from the former drove into a bayou in the latter and died.

The Times-Picayune had what my be the best headline evah:

“Waterproof Negro Drowns in Dry Creek”

I dunno. My favorite is still from the NY Times: Hooker Sued over Love Canal.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:17:32pm

It’s all gone, now. When we exported the jobs, we exported the poisons.

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makeitstop  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:20:33pm

re: #14 whitebeach

I dunno. My favorite is still from the NY Times: Hooker Sued over Love Canal.

Don’t forget ‘Headless Body in Topless Bar!’

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whitebeach  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:22:58pm

re: #4 Stanley Sea

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See, this … this kinda shit … is where stuff like pineapple on pizza got started. Of course it was 1963, so you’ve gotta feel like the CIA was involved.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:23:07pm

re: #5 Kafitrar

From the previous thread.

I don’t know either. It looks like Decatur Deb knows.

Wiki’ed it. None of us ever much knew, when it might have made a difference.

Coal tar is produced through thermal destruction (pyrolysis) of coal, and the composition of coal tar varies with the process and type of coal (for example,: lignite, bituminous or anthracite) used to make it.[29]

It contains approximately 10,000 chemicals, of which only about 50% have been identified.[35][better source needed] Components include polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (4-rings: chrysene, fluoranthene, pyrene, triphenylene, naphthacene, benzanthracene, 5-rings: picene, benzo[a]pyrene, benzo[e]pyrene, benzofluoranthenes, perylene, 6-rings: dibenzopyrenes, dibenzofluoranthenes, benzoperylenes, 7-rings: coronene), as well as methylated and polymethylated derivatives, mono- and polyhydroxylated derivatives, and heterocyclic compounds.[28][36] Others include benzene, toluene, xylenes, cumenes, coumarone, indene, benzofuran, naphthalene and methyl-naphthalenes, acenaphthene, fluorene, phenol, cresols, pyridine, picolines, phenanthracene, carbazole, quinolines, fluoranthene.[29] Many of these constituents are known carcinogens.[37][38]

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:24:29pm

re: #16 makeitstop

Don’t forget ‘Headless Body in Topless Bar!’

Click the link! Read the story!

Edit, RIP

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Kragar  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:26:08pm
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Belafon  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:29:41pm

Black Panther was number one again: ew.com. And, while A Wrinkle In Time isn’t doing as well as thought, it debuted at number two, making the the top two films directed by black directors. Probably a first. Black Panther also did better in China than expected at $66M.

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:32:02pm

re: #20 Kragar

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Kafitrar  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:32:09pm

re: #18 Decatur Deb
Yeah, that’s a real witches’ brew.

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:36:50pm
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wheat-dogg  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:39:16pm

China must be going all out this week to disable VPNs, because both of mine are only half-effective. That’s probably why I’ve been having trouble with LGF loading properly and the js not working.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:39:40pm
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whitebeach  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:41:00pm

re: #19 Stanley Sea

Click the link! Read the story!

Edit, RIP

Yeah, Headless Body in Topless Bar was a great one, but it was the NY Post. Their headline writers lived for this kind of opportunity, and probably had taken weird electives in J-school to be ready when one came along.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:47:42pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:48:22pm

re: #4 Stanley Sea

I remember Skippy with “Smoky Crisps” (Betty Crocker Bac-0’s). I loved spreading it on Mom’s fresh baked bread and she just couldn’t stand the smell of the Skippy with the Bac-0s!

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teleskiguy  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:48:28pm
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austin_blue  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:49:41pm

re: #29 Joe Bacon 🌹

I remember Skippy with “Smoky Crisps” (Betty Crocker Bac-0’s). I loved spreading it on Mom’s fresh baked bread and she just couldn’t stand the smell of the Skippy with the Bac-0s!

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But..but..your NAME is Bacon!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:50:43pm

re: #10 Decatur Deb

Whole lot of stuff that OSHA/NIOSH hate. CO would be the least of it, and some could be recovered in the later plants for use as chemical precursors. Mostly, we just breathed it. Some of the coke itself wound up chemically bonded to different kinds of steel, melted in with limestone. After skimming in the furnaces, the incandescent slag would be loaded into railcars and hauled miles, to be tipped over the elevated railbed. A trainload would look like lava pouring down the dump.

Yes I remember the slag dumps from the J&L plant in Aliquippa and that “rotten egg” odor would drift across the Ohio River into Ambridge…

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MsJ  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:57:06pm

re: #31 austin_blue

But..but..your NAME is Bacon!

Bac-O’s ain’t bacon. No way. No how. 🤢 🤮

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teleskiguy  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:58:11pm

re: #33 MsJ

Bac-O’s ain’t bacon. No way. No how. 🤢 🤮

Bac-Os are vegan friendly, it’s just salty soy bits.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:00:25pm

re: #32 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yes I remember the slag dumps from the J&L plant in Aliquippa and that “rotten egg” odor would drift across the Ohio River into Ambridge…

The first house I can remember was on The Bluff, directly across the river from the J&L Southside works. It’s a hipster mall now.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:00:50pm

re: #16 makeitstop

Don’t forget ‘Headless Body in Topless Bar!’

“Talking dog robs bank, flees in UFO.” Can’t remember where I saw that.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:01:58pm

Can you imagine Trump giving Kim that yanking handshake….. and starting a war.

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retired cynic  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:04:38pm

re: #37 GlutenFreeJesus

Can you imagine Trump giving Kim that yanking handshake….. and starting a war.

Kim’s not stupid. He’d be ready.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:05:25pm

re: #37 GlutenFreeJesus

Yes.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:05:38pm

re: #38 retired cynic

Kim’s not stupid. He’d be ready.

His bodyguards would be ready, too.

I wonder if Kim knows tae kwon do.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:05:59pm

In the 20s, a few years after World War One, a German newspaper had a contest for the most sensational headline. Most entries dealt with things like Martian invasion or the Second Coming of Christ.
The winner though was “Arch-duke Franz-Ferdinand Alive! World War Fought by Mistake!”

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whitebeach  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:08:44pm

re: #36 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

“Talking dog robs bank, flees in UFO.” Can’t remember where I saw that.

Depends on when you saw it. Twenty years ago, probably the Enquirer on a supermarket line. These days, could be the History Channel.

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teleskiguy  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:11:14pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:12:56pm

re: #38 retired cynic

Kim’s not stupid. He’d be ready.

Joy buzzer?

//

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petesh  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:13:45pm

re: #16 makeitstop

Don’t forget ‘Headless Body in Topless Bar!’

Tons of Soil on Sons of Toil

[Per Sir P.G. Wodehouse, a New York tabloid headline after a tragic earthslide]

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:17:43pm

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Kragar  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:18:32pm
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whitebeach  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:21:07pm

re: #46 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

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And don’t even start with Beethoven’s Fifth.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:23:04pm

re: #45 petesh

Tons of Soil on Sons of Toil

[Per Sir P.G. Wodehouse, a New York tabloid headline after a tragic earthslide]

cjr.org

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wheat-dogg  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:24:03pm

re: #48 whitebeach

And don’t even start with Beethoven’s Fifth.

They started with that one.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:26:54pm

I just watched the entire 60 Minutes piece on Betsy DeVos. It was…frightening.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:28:54pm

I’d also like to add that she (DeVos) looked very uncomfortable around all the kids, but the African-American kids in particular.

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whitebeach  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:32:20pm

re: #51 Ace Rothstein

I just watched the entire 60 Minutes piece on Betsy DeVos. It was…frightening.

I liked that Stahl, at least a couple of times, said “But that’s not true.” I live for the day when a reporter on 60 minutes will say, flat out, “That’s bullshit and you know it.”

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BigPapa  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:32:27pm

re: #47 Kragar

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:33:25pm

re: #47 Kragar

She’s fucking 37. 38.

Old in yam years, but come on.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:36:15pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:38:25pm

re: #56 Stanley Sea

One video I allow to keep playing 20 times

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whitebeach  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:42:47pm

re: #54 BigPapa

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God damn it, what is it gonna take for Teen Vogue finally to win a Pulitzer?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:56:28pm

ROTFLMAO seeing these Trumpettes go after Stormy and she smacks every one of them down!

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wheat-dogg  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:01:43pm

re: #59 Joe Bacon 🌹

ROTFLMAO seeing these Trumpettes go after Stormy and she smacks every one of them down!

They underestimate her, assuming that a porn star must be a dimbulb. Whoops! She isn’t.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:03:59pm

re: #59 Joe Bacon 🌹

ROTFLMAO seeing these Trumpettes go after Stormy and she smacks every one of them down!

My Trumpster brother is actually very complimentary about her intelligence and business skills. He doesn’t care whether or not Stormy had a relationship with Trump since it was over 10 years ago.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:11:24pm

re: #61 Hecuba’s daughter

My Trumpster brother is actually very complimentary about her intelligence and business skills. He doesn’t care whether or not Stormy had a relationship with Trump since it was over 10 years ago.

They love to forget that he was cheating on the first lady

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whitebeach  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:13:22pm

re: #62 Stanley Sea

They love to forget that he was cheating on the first lady

“That was no lady, that was my pregnant wife. And she wasn’t the first, either.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:22:21pm

re: #62 Stanley Sea

They love to forget that he was cheating on the first lady

Not something my brother cares about — he’s not an evangelical. He didn’t care about Monica either. He has little interest in any of the social issues. Economics and immigration are his big issues.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:33:16pm

re: #64 Hecuba’s daughter

Not something my brother cares about — he’s not an evangelical. He didn’t care about Monica either. He has little interest in any of the social issues. Economics and immigration are his big issues.

Oh wait — evangelicals don’t care about Trump’s bad behavior either. Maybe I should say that my brother is not being hypocritical.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:36:12pm

re: #65 Hecuba’s daughter

Oh wait — evangelicals don’t care about Trump’s bad behavior either. Maybe I should say that my brother is not being hypocritical.


So, how’s your Sister in Law faring.

Edit, misread.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:45:02pm

re: #29 Joe Bacon 🌹

I remember Skippy with “Smoky Crisps” (Betty Crocker Bac-0’s). I loved spreading it on Mom’s fresh baked bread and she just couldn’t stand the smell of the Skippy with the Bac-0s!

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fond memories of my childhood: peanut butter with bacon bits

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Dave In Austin  Mar 11, 2018 • 11:00:48pm
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Nyet  Mar 11, 2018 • 11:14:41pm

This is fine. Everything is fine.

Women’s March Faces Crisis as Jewish Activists Lose Faith Amid Farrakhan Firestorm
Following series of tweets conveying her discomfort at movement’s response to co-chair Tamika Mallory refusing to distance herself from Nation of Islam leader, social media director Alyssa Klein leaves women’s group

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sagehen  Mar 11, 2018 • 11:21:29pm

re: #9 austin_blue

Repost from downstairs—->

re: #207 whitebeach

Half of my neighbors’ take on this and probable FNC chyron: “NY Nigro responsible for helicopter crash.”

There are a couple of little towns in Louisiana. Waterproof is south and west of Vicksburg, and Dry Creek is southwest of Alexandria. One night in the mid-50’s, a guy from the former drove into a bayou in the latter and died.

The Times-Picayune had what my be the best headline evah:

“Waterproof Negro Drowns in Dry Creek”

Repost my reply:

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 12, 2018 • 12:31:40am
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Amory Blaine  Mar 12, 2018 • 12:35:10am

Heh. Keegan-Michael Key was on John Oliver tonight spoofing the Bitconnect guy.

Cryptocurrencies: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 12, 2018 • 2:09:41am

The best telling off I’ve seen in years.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 12, 2018 • 3:14:44am

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

Quite true for a lot of them. Others, I’m not so sure.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 12, 2018 • 3:15:17am
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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 12, 2018 • 4:08:49am

Heard on the radio during the slog into work this morning:

Village People— IN THE NAVY, OFFICIAL Music Video (1979) HD

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MsJ  Mar 12, 2018 • 4:55:31am
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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 12, 2018 • 4:58:18am

re: #77 MsJ

I think he is a space vampire from Buck Rogers

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2018 • 5:47:15am

re: #10 Decatur Deb

Whole lot of stuff that OSHA/NIOSH hate. CO would be the least of it, and some could be recovered in the later plants for use as chemical precursors. Mostly, we just breathed it. Some of the coke itself wound up chemically bonded to different kinds of steel, melted in with limestone. After skimming in the furnaces, the incandescent slag would be loaded into railcars and hauled miles, to be tipped over the elevated railbed. A trainload would look like lava pouring down the dump.

Morning. MIssed this thread as I was reading last night.

I still remember lying in bed and waiting to about 10 PM on a Friday night for the sky to glow bright red when they did the big dump at the big steel mill where I grew up. There was a little creek that ran across the road at about the same place they did the dumping on the side of the hill. It was always a bright orange in color from all the rust coming off the slag hill.

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jeffreyw  Mar 12, 2018 • 5:51:22am

Imgur


Good morning!

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 6:09:25am

re: #40 wheat-dogg

His bodyguards would be ready, too.

I wonder if Kim knows tae kwon do.

Possibly sinanju

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2018 • 6:12:48am

Deb got me curious about steel mills, and we have been talking about them a bit lately, so I did a Google image search for the Empire Reeves plant in my old hometown.

Found this. At the bottom of the image is Route 30 (Lincoln Highway) The area below that was just up from my childhood home. If there was about and inch-and-a-half more to the bottom of the image our house would have been in it.

Ah memories. It was a very industrial area I grew up in. Surrounded by railroad tracks all around, with factories in every direction. Most of it gone and closed up now.

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Sea Mexican!  Mar 12, 2018 • 6:18:38am

Uh-oh

bloomberg.com

Kim Jong Un wants to sign a peace treaty after meeting with U.S. President Donald Trump, South Korean media reported, reviving a long-held goal of the North Korean regime.

Kim is likely to raise the possibility of a peace treaty, along with establishing diplomatic relations and nuclear disarmament, during a meeting with the U.S. leader, the Dong-A Ilbo newspaper said Monday, citing an unidentified senior official in South Korea’s presidential office. Trump last week agreed to meet Kim, although key details of the summit have yet to be decided.

Any changes that this will be a phony treaty that would allow Kim Jong Un anything he wants without repercussions?

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 6:31:08am

i hear the food’s better at jeffreyw’s place

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 6:32:34am

i was just leaving….
oh, company. maybe i’ll stick around.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Mar 12, 2018 • 6:33:15am

re: #82 ObserverArt

Deb got me curious about steel mills, and we have been talking about them a bit lately, so I did a Google image search for the Empire Reeves plant in my old hometown.

Found this. At the bottom of the image is Route 30 (Lincoln Highway) The area below that was just up from my childhood home. If there was about and inch-and-a-half more to the bottom of the image our house would have been in it.

Ah memories. It was a very industrial area I grew up in. Surrounded by railroad tracks all around, with factories in every direction. Most of it gone and closed up now.

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I grew up in East Liverpool, Ohio, next door to Midland, PA and across the river from Chester, WV, where I was born. Area had been industrial with pottery kilns for decades before steel. Scratch the soil and find all sorts of things, some not as pleasant as ceramic door knobs.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 12, 2018 • 6:35:11am

re: #53 whitebeach

I liked that Stahl, at least a couple of times, said “But that’s not true.” I live for the day when a reporter on 60 minutes will say, flat out, “That’s bullshit and you know it.”

I’m actually surprised Stahl went that far. It’s very not both sides-ism.

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lawhawk  Mar 12, 2018 • 6:39:13am
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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 12, 2018 • 6:44:00am

re: #88 lawhawk

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Doesn’t have the balls to admit that the NRA said no and that’s the real reason.

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 6:45:19am

re: #88 lawhawk

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in the televised “meeting” he said he would insist upon raising the age to 21
in that meeting he also said there’s been no progress because the r’s were afraid of the nra

then he had dinner with the nra and they told him what his positions would be

who’s afraid of the nra?

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 12, 2018 • 6:46:25am

re: #90 dangerman

in the televised “meeting” he said he would insist upon raising the age to 21
in that meeting he also said there’s been no progress because the r’s were afraid of the nra

then he had dinner with the nra and they told him what his positions would be

who’s afraid of the nra?

Exactly. Cowardly Donald strikes again.

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 6:53:05am

re: #91 HappyWarrior

Exactly. Cowardly Donald strikes again.

and the rest of them shrug.
not in any atlas kind of way

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 12, 2018 • 6:53:23am

re: #21 Belafon

Black Panther was number one again: ew.com. And, while A Wrinkle In Time isn’t doing as well as thought, it debuted at number two, making the the top two films directed by black directors. Probably a first. Black Panther also did better in China than expected at $66M.

Woohoo!! Very happy to see Black Panther doing so well internationally. Conventional wisdom that Black films can’t do well overseas has been proven wrong.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 12, 2018 • 6:54:29am

re: #92 dangerman

and the rest of them shrug.
not in any atlas kind of way

And then they have the nerve to gun pedant us or complain that we’re mocking their religious views when we criticize the hollowness of “thoughts and prayers.”

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 6:58:13am

re: #93 Patricia Kayden

Woohoo!! Very happy to see Black Panther doing so well internationally. Conventional wisdom that Black films can’t do well overseas has been proven wrong.

good movies are good movies. they tend to do well, if the plot isnt too localized
doesnt matter who wrote, directed, starred

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:00:25am

re: #94 HappyWarrior

And then they have the nerve to gun pedant us or complain that we’re mocking their religious views when we criticize the hollowness of “thoughts and prayers.”

im feeling like now the clip/magazine, ‘assault style’ and other pedantry is being effectively exposed for the empty rhetoric that it is

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:08:51am

re: #95 dangerman

If not well written and or directed it won’t be a good movie. Black Panther is an amazing action film. But the real blow out success imho is its cultural resonance.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:10:57am

re: #86 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I grew up in East Liverpool, Ohio, next door to Midland, PA and across the river from Chester, WV, where I was born. Area had been industrial with pottery kilns for decades before steel. Scratch the soil and find all sorts of things, some not as pleasant as ceramic door knobs.

This is a current aerial view of Observer’s plant posted above. Note the soil/vegetation color of the area downwind, around the double settling ponds. Not science, of course—just sayin’.

google.com

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:18:52am

Just watched the DeVos interview on 60 minutes. All I can say is, “Wow.”

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:18:54am

re: #98 Decatur Deb

This is a current aerial view of Observer’s plant posted above. Note the soil/vegetation cover of the area downwind, around the double settling ponds. Not science, of course—just sayin’.

google.com

Aerial view of the old steel car plant site in my home town. Just a big, empty scar.

google.com

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:21:53am

re: #100 Eventual Carrion

Aerial view of the old steel car plant site in my home town. Just a big, empty scar.

google.com

It’s interesting to do Internet archaeology of all the places we’ve lived. Most of my childhood places are hard to detect—we were always one step ahead of urban renewal.

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Belafon  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:24:04am

re: #95 dangerman

good movies are good movies. they tend to do well, if the plot isnt too localized
doesnt matter who wrote, directed, starred

There are a whole lot of money people in Hollywood who refused to believe women led movies, Wonder Woman, or movies featuring a mostly black cast wouldn’t do well. It’s time they were proven wrong.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:26:48am

re: #79 ObserverArt

Morning. MIssed this thread as I was reading last night.

I still remember lying in bed and waiting to about 10 PM on a Friday night for the sky to glow bright red when they did the big dump at the big steel mill where I grew up. There was a little creek that ran across the road at about the same place they did the dumping on the side of the hill. It was always a bright orange in color from all the rust coming off the slag hill.

I recall reading about the Northern Lights and going out one evening to see a glow in the sky, thinking that I was seeing them.
It was just the blast furnaces being opened at the Gary, Indiana United States Steel mill.

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:29:02am

re: #97 Unshaken Defiance

If not well written and or directed it won’t be a good movie. Black Panther is an amazing action film. But the real blow out success imho is its cultural resonance.

oh yes. im agreeing with you on all three points

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:29:04am

re: #102 Belafon

If I remember correctly there was a low budget movie in 1977 that was well acted and almost all of the critics panned it. It exceeded all expectations.

Star Wars

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:32:02am

re: #97 Unshaken Defiance

If not well written and or directed it won’t be a good movie. Black Panther is an amazing action film. But the real blow out success imho is its cultural resonance.

I am not a big fan of cinema and not a comics fan at all. I tend to step back and look at this purely from the commercial and marketing standpoint and see the “cultural resonance” as a marketing tool.

But that is just my personal point of view. It is not that I have any disregard for cinema or comics as art forms, they just do not interest me greatly.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:32:11am

re: #105 PhillyPretzel

George Lucas figured that it’d do about as well as your Disney film of the era. He certainly didn’t have terribly high expectations that his little space-opera flick would become a record-breaker - and a cultural phenomenon to boot.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:34:13am

re: #107 Dr Lizardo

George Lucas figured that it’d do about as well as your Disney film of the era. He certainly didn’t have terribly high expectations that his little space-opera flick would become a record-breaker - and a cultural phenomenon to boot.

and the merchandising people did not produce enough toys and other memorabilia to cover demand.

one of the things that put me off seeing ET (which I did not watch until years later with my kids) was they way they rather overcompensated with the merchandising and marketing tie-ins

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:35:52am

Greatest headlines ever? My favorite, from a KKK rally in Manhattan in the ‘80’s or ‘90’s:

SHEET HAPPENS.

[Googled it, can’t find the original]

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:37:55am

re: #104 dangerman

Because I aspire to do good documentaries, my friends in the biz send me what they can to learn on. Stuff like this, Ridley Scott. Of course there are many ways to make a good film. Ask 3 directors get at least 3 answers…Thing is there are millions of ways to screw it all up.

“There’s no generic learning process” | Ridley Scott on Directing

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:39:08am

re: #98 Decatur Deb

This is a current aerial view of Observer’s plant posted above. Note the soil/vegetation cover of the area downwind, around the double settling ponds. Not science, of course—just sayin’.

google.com

See where it is lettered Bowman Street below Rt 30…go over two streets to the right. That’s my old street!

As I always have said, I grew up in ‘the hood’ on the wrong side of the tracks from where most of the kids I went to Catholic school with lived south of downtown. I wouldn’t trade it for what all living there taught me about people. Our’s was a neighborhood of Slavic Whites, Blacks and some southern fried types. Good people.

For film buffs…go over to the right of those fields Deb is talking about. See where it says Ohio State Reformatory. That is the where Shawshank Redemption was filmed. It is now a historical museum. The movie helped make the decision to not tear it down. It is a very Victorian creepy building.

The old state prison was closed in the late 70s or so. Now all the real bad guys are in the newer prison just across the road from those fields and up a bit. You can tell the outer walls are the rounded square with the one angled side.

No one ever escaped the old prison as far as I can remember while I grew up there!

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:39:56am

re: #108 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and the merchandising people did not produce enough toys and other memorabilia to cover demand.

one of the things that put me off seeing ET (which I did not watch until years later with my kids) was they way they rather overcompensated with the merchandising and marketing tie-ins

Heh. And all that merchandise from Star Wars made George Lucas damn near an overnight millionaire. Blowing off the merchandising rights to SW is one of the greatest blunders any film studio has ever committed.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:40:40am

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recall reading about the Northern Lights and going out one evening to see a glow in the sky, thinking that I was seeing them.
It was just the blast furnaces being opened at the Gary, Indiana United States Steel mill.

Speaking of Northern Lights:

Magnetic Storm Could Disrupt Essential Services On March 18

valuewalk.com

(Most references to this story are in economic media or British tabloids, so…)

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:42:15am

re: #111 ObserverArt

Good view of the stacks.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:45:44am

re: #111 ObserverArt

As I always have said, I grew up in ‘the hood’ on the wrong side of the tracks from where most of the kids I went to Catholic school with lived south of downtown. I wouldn’t trade it for what all living there taught me about people. Our’s was a neighborhood of Slavic Whites, Blacks and some southern fried types. Good people.

Exackly like my old ‘hood in Gary in the late 60’s…

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:45:48am

re: #114 Decatur Deb

Good view of the stacks.

Yeah. I think it was you that mentioned once the little black bits that would sometimes float down from the sky like tiny snowflakes and end up visible on the snow or your car, etc.

If Trump and his goons get their way, some people might get to relive all that coal dust, orange water, etc. Good times. *cough*

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:47:28am

re: #116 ObserverArt

Yeah. I think it was you that mentioned once the little black bits that would sometimes float down from the sky like tiny snowflakes and end up visible on the snow or your car, etc.

If Trump and his goons get their way, some people might get to relive all that coal dust, orange water, etc. Good times. *cough*

and they could once again enjoy our childhood pastime of playing hide-and-seek amid piles of industrial tailings from the Purex bleach plant…

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:51:23am

OK….off to work.

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lawhawk  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:52:47am
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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:54:48am

re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Exackly like my old ‘hood in Gary in the late 60’s…

And Pittsburgh. Just walking to school from our Irish neighborhood, I would climb a hill through a seriously Jewish neighborhood (Hebrew-lettered storefronts) to our Irish Catholic parish church/school, across the street from the German Catholic church/school. Everything uphill from there was the Hill District, home of a nearly-forgotten Pittsburgh jazz scene. The Hill was destroyed by a well-meaning project that replaced it with the Civic Arena. (It was also the inspiration for Hill Street Blues, though that was notionally in another city.)

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:56:06am

re: #106 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

…I tend to step back and look at this purely from the commercial and marketing standpoint and see the “cultural resonance” as a marketing tool…

Well the resonance is often a goal but so rarely achieved, and often by accident at that. Star Wars. Saturday Night Fever. The first and only the first Fast and Furious. Like you imho of course.

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:59:24am

re: #119 lawhawk

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they lie about everything

AP

“The president’s eldest son and Texas hedge fund manager Gentry Beach have been involved in business deals together dating back to the mid-2000s and recently formed a company — Future Venture LLC — despite past claims by both men that they were just friends.”

and

mcclatchy

Ivanka Trump never cut ties with the Trump Organization. That’s turned into a problem.

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lawhawk  Mar 12, 2018 • 7:59:28am

Trump had to go to PA to defend this seat. The GOP is spending millions for a seat they’ve reliably held for years.

Trump won this district by 20 points last year.

Lamb, the Democrat, is up at the last poll. Democrats have been seeing 20+ point swings in their favor throughout special election season.

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:01:31am

re: #117 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and they could once again enjoy our childhood pastime of playing hide-and-seek amid piles of industrial tailings from the Purex bleach plant…

We had all kinds of steel panels and framework to “play” on from the Martin Steel company that was to the east of my house.

You can see the remains of their lot to the right of the “B” in Bowman street, same marker I mentioned, three blocks over along the railroad tracks. Martin Steel made silo ans other storage containers for farm and industrial use.

We also had 55 gallon drums of paint residue and chemicals to climb around on.

Good times! Uggh.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:02:20am

re: #123 lawhawk

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Trump had to go to PA to defend this seat. The GOP is spending millions for a seat they’ve reliably held for years.

Trump won this district by 20 points last year.

Lamb, the Democrat, is up at the last poll. Democrats have been seeing 20+ point swings in their favor throughout special election season.

So what we are seeing is that roughly 30% of the electorate is firmly locked in for Trump and the GOP but the remaining 70% of it is still open to the right kind of candidates, policies and arguments.

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:03:23am

re: #123 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Trump had to go to PA to defend this seat. The GOP is spending millions for a seat they’ve reliably held for years.

Trump won this district by 20 points last year.

Lamb, the Democrat, is up at the last poll. Democrats have been seeing 20+ point swings in their favor throughout special election season.

in his appearance, trump barely said a word about saccone.
it was all about him

as an aside, apparently Trump privately trashes Rick Saccone

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lawhawk  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:05:34am

re: #126 dangerman

It’s not private any longer… that’s for sure. You can bet on it.

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lawhawk  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:06:16am

Hannity’s trying to find anything and everything to blame about the most recent mass shooting other than the easy availability of guns. He’s trashed the police, school officials, the parents of the shooter, everyone and everything except the one thing that made the shooting possible: the easy availability of guns.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:10:43am

re: #128 lawhawk

But for the easy availability of guns, this shooting would not have occurred.

Every single one of these mass shootings would not occur without the easy availability of guns.

I am sure that “the right to bear arms” was not intended to guarantee unregulated or unlimited access to them…

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:11:05am

re: #124 ObserverArt

We had all kinds of steel panels and framework to “play” on from the Martin Steel company that was to the east of my house.

You can see the remains of their lot to the right of the “B” in Bowman street, same marker I mentioned, three blocks over along the railroad tracks. Martin Steel made silo ans other storage containers for farm and industrial use.

We also had 55 gallon drums of paint residue and chemicals to climb around on.

Good times! Uggh.

The scariest such story though is the kids in Athebasca, Canada. The asbestos plant there had left a mountain of fine tailings several stories high, and the kids found they could use their sleds there during the snow-free seasons.

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lawhawk  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:11:53am

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I’m pretty sure there’s a part of the originalist Constitution that includes something about a well regulated militia…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:13:33am

re: #131 lawhawk

I’m pretty sure there’s a part of the originalist Constitution that includes something about a well regulated militia…

yeah, but that particular cherry remains unpicked for true fans of the Constitution

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:14:48am

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am sure that “the right to bear arms” was not intended to guarantee unregulated or unlimited access to them…

or to be free from the consequences and accountability for misuse, careless ‘storage’, negligent sale or transfer, etc.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:18:14am

Plus, a self governing nation has the right to change its mind.

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gocart mozart  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:23:17am
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gocart mozart  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:23:42am
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gocart mozart  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:24:16am
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gocart mozart  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:24:57am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:25:06am

re: #135 gocart mozart

Oh look. Arm bands!

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gocart mozart  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:25:18am
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gocart mozart  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:25:43am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:26:30am

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gocart mozart  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:26:38am
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gocart mozart  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:27:21am
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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:33:06am

re: #145 gocart mozart

Sen. Ron Johnson ‘not sure’ if death penalty should apply to drug offenses

in a few short weeks they’ve gone from discussing the death penalty for
drug kingpins
then to drug dealers
and in this article johnson says “drug offenses”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:36:44am

re: #146 dangerman

in a few short weeks they’ve gone from discussing the death penalty for
drug kingpins
then to drug dealers
and in this article johnson says “drug offenses”

And of course, any such penalties for ‘drug offenses’ would be administered without any hint of racial inequality, just as the whole criminal justice system is a model of racial equity.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:43:37am

re: #147 Blind Frog Belly White

And of course, any such penalties for ‘drug offenses’ would be administered without any hint of racial inequality, just as the whole criminal justice system is a model of racial equity.

right after the police institute sweeps of “high crime” (i.e. predominantly black) neighborhoods.

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petesh  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:46:29am

re: #121 Unshaken Defiance

Well the resonance is often a goal but so rarely achieved, and often by accident at that. Star Wars. Saturday Night Fever. The first and only the first Fast and Furious. Like you imho of course.

I remember the opening of the original Star Wars. There really wasn’t much studio hype at all, but there was an instant buzz — word of mouth had us driving 50 miles just to see it before it reached the local theater, and there were lines everywhere. I dont know why I thought it would be great, but I did and it was. Weird!

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makeitstop  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:47:08am

Thread.

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sagehen  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:47:58am

re: #102 Belafon

There are a whole lot of money people in Hollywood who refused to believe women led movies, Wonder Woman, or movies featuring a mostly black cast wouldn’t do well. It’s time they were proven wrong.

Hunger Games franchise:

Budget: $493 million
Box office: $2.968 billion

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:48:09am

re: #138 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

Why it was so easy for ‘60 Minutes’ to rebut Betsy DeVos’s charter-school arguments

There are only two reasons that DeVos might not have been able to defend her position when confronted with the example of her home state. One is that she was simply unprepared for the interview and didn’t have a team in place that could have ensured she was ready for an inevitable line of inquisition from Stahl.

The other is that DeVos’s case isn’t as clear-cut as she presented it.

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makeitstop  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:49:41am

Ha! Stormy’s troll game is next-level.

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Weaselone  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:53:30am

re: #153 makeitstop

Stormy is conservative, right? The GOP should recruit her to run for office, she seems to have the IQ and savvy of any dozen GOP politicians.

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darthstar  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:57:21am
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makeitstop  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:58:16am

re: #154 Weaselone

Stormy is conservative, right? The GOP should recruit her to run for office, she seems to have the IQ and savvy of any dozen GOP politicians.

I’m not sure of that.

Maybe she wants to give back the $130K and then take a meeting with Larry Flynt about that $10 million bounty he has out…

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:58:54am

re: #150 makeitstop

Thread.

[Embedded content]

trump won PA in 2016
his net approval was +10 in PA January of last year
now in PA he’s -4

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:59:24am

All of this attention on PA18 sort of concerns me. If Saccone wins, Trump and conservatives are going to strut around like they conquered the world and Democrats/liberals are going to go into “oh no” mode about how everything is hopeless.

I don’t remember each and every race being looked at nationally like this. Of course this is a desperate time and we do have all of this instant “news” socially on the ‘net, but rising and falling on every election might cause too much fatigue for when things really count this November.

The biggest problem we have is getting out the vote. I worry all of this early attention could cause some early crashing amongst the left side of things and hurt us when needed the most. I hope people on the left and in the middle are tempering all of this and keeping it in perspective.

The right, win or lose, is in it no matter what happens.

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sagehen  Mar 12, 2018 • 8:59:55am

re: #152 dangerman

Why it was so easy for ‘60 Minutes’ to rebut Betsy DeVos’s charter-school arguments

The entire argument in favor of charter schools, once you cut through the bullshit and spin, is:

Schools that can choose their students have way better test scores and more successful alumni than schools that are full of the students who didn’t get chosen by the schools that can choose their students. The teachers are no better, but the students are.

Harvard alums are way more successful than Backwater Junior College alums… because the Harvard admissions office can be super-picky about who they let enroll in the first place. They’re only taking people who would have been successful no matter where they went to college, or even if they didn’t go to college at all.

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darthstar  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:00:09am

The Maryland Terrapins aren’t in the NCAA tournament this year, so I had to pick a different team. I employed the scientific method.

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:01:47am

re: #153 makeitstop

Ha! Stormy’s troll game is next-level.

[Embedded content]

Who does she pay back the $130,000???

Does it go to The Don? Heh.

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:02:22am

re: #158 ObserverArt

All of this attention on PA18 sort of concerns me. If Saccone wins, Trump and conservatives are going to strut around like they conquered the world and Democrats/liberals are going to go into “oh no” mode about how everything is hopeless.

I don’t remember each and every race being looked at nationally like this. Of course this is a desperate time and we do have all of this instant “news” socially on the ‘net, but rising and falling on every election might cause too much fatigue for when things really count this November.

The biggest problem we have is getting out the vote. I worry all of this early attention could cause some early crashing amongst the left side of things and hurt us when needed the most. I hope people on the left and in the middle are tempering all of this and keeping it in perspective.

The right, win or lose, is in it no matter what happens.

because It’s Bad News Either Way for Trump

“But either way, it will be very bad news for Donald Trump. This isn’t just because this election is deep in the heart of Trump country. It’s also because the failure of the Trump/Republican argument to prevent this contest from being so close also carries ominous signs for the GOP this fall.”

itals original

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:05:31am

re: #160 darthstar

The Maryland Terrapins aren’t in the NCAA tournament this year, so I had to pick a different team. I employed the scientific method.

[Embedded content]

What is a Californian doing picking these B1G schools???

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sagehen  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:08:03am

re: #160 darthstar

The Maryland Terrapins aren’t in the NCAA tournament this year, so I had to pick a different team. I employed the scientific method.

[Embedded content]

I always root for the team whose mascot and/or merch I like better.

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:08:46am

re: #159 sagehen

The entire argument in favor of charter schools, once you cut through the bullshit and spin, is:

Schools that can choose their students have way better test scores and more successful alumni than schools that are full of the students who didn’t get chosen by the schools that can choose their students. The teachers are no better, but the students are.

Harvard alums are way more successful than Backwater Junior College alums… because the Harvard admissions office can be super-picky about who they let enroll in the first place. They’re only taking people who would have been successful no matter where they went to college, or even if they didn’t go to college at all.

right - and the flip side is NOT true:
facing competition, the public schools will rise to meet the challenge

aside from the fact that the privates are skimming a lot of the cream

the bigger problem is there are two different financial models so they arent really in “competition”

privates have tuition money they can more or less spend as they like
publics are government funded, managed by school boards and the money comes with restrictions, encumberments, requirements, etc

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:10:26am

re: #161 ObserverArt

Who does she pay back the $130,000???

Does it go to The Don? Heh.

does cohen still have to pay that mortgage off?

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lawhawk  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:10:27am

re: #158 ObserverArt

This is a safe GOP district, where they’re talking about Lamb being up or close when it had gone 20+ for Trump. That’s a 20 point swing.

Saccone has gotten $10 million from the GOP to hold on to this seat. Trump’s gone out to the district to support Saccone (well, support may be a bit much - he did appear and once mentioned Saccone’s name before Trump made the appearance about Trump).

Lamb didn’t have much of a chance, and this is being treated as a dead heat.

That’s not a good sign for Trumpworld, because a 20 point swing in what are supposedly safe districts brings a whole bunch of GOP districts into play.

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Swampwitch  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:10:34am

Man I love this guy…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:10:38am

I am really curious what Stormy wants to share.

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:11:21am

re: #162 dangerman

because It’s Bad News Either Way for Trump

itals original

I know that, you know it…we are all very aware political junkies.

It is the new, reluctant and non-voters that might come out that will be influenced by media and all the social banter. I hope nothing makes them stay home. Nothing.

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lawhawk  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:14:23am

re: #168 Swampwitch

The GOP can find the money to turn schools into prisons and arm teachers, but how dare anyone request that schools get tech upgrades and infrastructure improvements like improved HVAC, telcom, and lighting that might improve student comfort/performance?

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makeitstop  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:15:13am

re: #169 Eclectic Cyborg

I am really curious what Stormy wants to share.

The mention of videos intrigues me. Not that I’d actually want to watch them, but the fact that a video might exist is really bad news for Trump.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:15:14am

A public service:

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:17:03am

re: #170 ObserverArt

I know that, you know it…we are all very aware political junkies.

It is the new, reluctant and non-voters that might come out that will be influenced by media and all the social banter. I hope nothing makes them stay home. Nothing.

i guess im a little more confident - not much - a little
if lamb loses by say 3 or less, i dont think it changes the 2018 forecast much or the dem strategy

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darthstar  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:17:05am

re: #163 ObserverArt

What is a Californian doing picking these B1G schools???

I just learned Purdue’s in fucking Indiana. Mike Pence country. Who knew?

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nowherenorth2  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:17:21am

re: #168 Swampwitch

Love the guy too.

Funny the gop should learn how environment, both physical and emotional, effects education and mental health. Major thing to look at in the work I do.

But the gop are do nothing morons who only live to destroy.

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:17:55am

We’re talking a race in a district that Trump won by 20 points less than 2 years ago. A district that is neon white. A district where if you encounter a black man, you automatically assume he must be lost and direct him to the highway. That a Dem can not only run well, but actually be even or up against the Repub candidate would have been considered absurd 12 months ago.

The only way the GOP comes out of tomorrow night breathing a sigh of relief is if Lamb loses by double digits. If he wins or closes to less than 5%? No amount of hooting and hollering from Donny is going to drown out the screams of terror from House Republicans.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:19:30am

re: #172 makeitstop

The mention of videos intrigues me. Not that I’d actually want to watch them, but the fact that a video might exist is really bad news for Trump.

Let’s compromise. He can keep the videos, we get his tax returns.

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:20:39am

re: #171 lawhawk

The GOP can find the money to turn schools into prisons and arm teachers, but how dare anyone request that schools get tech upgrades and infrastructure improvements like improved HVAC, telcom, and lighting that might improve student comfort/performance?

in the span of 3 weeks, florida “found” $400 million
none of which was there the day before for actual, you know, “education”

a mere $25m is for destroying and rebuilding the freshman building at Douglas

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:21:31am

re: #173 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

A public service:

[Embedded content]

press 1 for english
press 2 for russian….

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darthstar  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:21:36am

So the missus and I are in Kauai for the next 10 days or so. Flew in yesterday. Put our toes in the water and drove to our favorite surf spots in Hanalei Bay to check the waves. Got approached by a Japanese woman with limited English speaking skills - at least in her panicked state - who had locked her keys in her rental car and was frightened and didn’t know what to do. I spent the next 45 minutes on the phone with Alamo explaining to them where the car was so they could send a tow truck to unlock her car for her.

Cloudy, but pretty here.

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:22:37am

re: #175 darthstar

I just learned Purdue’s in fucking Indiana. Mike Pence country. Who knew?

true story
when applying to colleges, way back when i lived on Long Island, I want to go to Stanford cause i thought it was in connecticut

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:23:44am

re: #175 darthstar

I just learned Purdue’s in fucking Indiana. Mike Pence country. Who knew?

I did. Lived and worked in West Lafayette/Lafayette for a few years. Go ugly early!

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makeitstop  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:25:42am

re: #178 Decatur Deb

Let’s compromise. He can keep the videos, we get his tax returns.

Done and done.

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:26:22am

re: #177 Targetpractice

We’re talking a race in a district that Trump won by 20 points less than 2 years ago. A district that is neon white. A district where if you encounter a black man, you automatically assume he must be lost and direct him to the highway. That a Dem can not only run well, but actually be even or up against the Repub candidate would have been considered absurd 12 months ago.

The only way the GOP comes out of tomorrow night breathing a sigh of relief is if Lamb loses by double digits. If he wins or closes to less than 5%? No amount of hooting and hollering from Donny is going to drown out the screams of terror from House Republicans.

They are hard nuts to crack. They probably think that a win is a win and by the time November comes around they will have stemmed the bleeding.

We are talking about a party that it should be clear to them by now, needs to separate themselves from Trump and yet they seem to want to ride him anyway.

It could be seen they need to run Trump out for their own good. Yet they seem to be obstructing the investigation of obstruction. It’s nuts.

It just does not make any sense. They must see a reason for doing this because to many it looks like political career suicide.

So much of old school political thinking seems to be out the window since 2016.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:26:33am

I glanced at the “brackets” and saw only two local colleges Villanova and Pennsylvania. I assume that Pennsylvania is University of Pennsylvania. So for me it is Go ‘Nova (wildcats) and Go Penn (Quakers).

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ckkatz  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:27:38am

The discussion of slag heaps got me thinking about the one I grew up near, the one along 9 Mile Run just south of Frick Park in Pittsburgh. In the 1960’s and 1970’s it was very visible. Now, from google satellite, it looks like it is all overgrown.

There is even apparently a mountain biking trail on it “Ride the slags
Frick Park mt biking”

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:27:45am

re: #182 dangerman

true story
when applying to colleges, way back when i lived on Long Island, I want to go to Stanford cause i thought it was in connecticut

To add to your confusion, there’s a Samford Univ. in Birmingham AL and a Stamford College in England. Not even touching the one in Malaysia.

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William Lewis  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:28:27am

re: #149 petesh

I remember the opening of the original Star Wars. There really wasn’t much studio hype at all, but there was an instant buzz — word of mouth had us driving 50 miles just to see it before it reached the local theater, and there were lines everywhere. I dont know why I thought it would be great, but I did and it was. Weird!

I first saw Star Wars the day before the Time & Newsweek cover stories hit the stands. No lines, 1/3 ~ 1/2 full theater. Great fun. Went again a week later, lines around the block for tickets to two shows later. And people would come out and get right in line again. It was real.

Marc Miller and Loren Wiseman had their new SF RPG (the very first one) almost ready to ship when they saw Star Wars for the first time. It had no direct influence on Traveller but it sure made everyone who bought that little black box play a game of scruffy rebels rather than anything else :D

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darthstar  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:28:36am

Also of note is a lack of California schools in the tournament. San Diego? That’s it?

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Kafitrar  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:28:38am

re: #186 PhillyPretzel

I glanced at the “brackets” and saw only two local colleges Villanova and Pennsylvania. I assume that Pennsylvania is University of Pennsylvania. So for me it is Go ‘Nova (wildcats) and Go Penn (Quakers).

Yes, you’re right about Penn. I wonder if the Republican President will pick them in his bracket. Ha, like he’d do anything like that.

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VegasGolfer  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:28:47am

re: #181 darthstar

Love Hanalei Bay. Used to go the a few times a month when I worked there to relax,
It was my idea of how Hawaii should be. I only saw one or two people a day on the beach back then.

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lawhawk  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:28:49am

AG Schneiderman’s been pretty busy… I don’t know who he’s targeting with this announcement…

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:29:16am

re: #181 darthstar

So the missus and I are in Kauai for the next 10 days or so. Flew in yesterday. Put our toes in the water and drove to our favorite surf spots in Hanalei Bay to check the waves. Got approached by a Japanese woman with limited English speaking skills - at least in her panicked state - who had locked her keys in her rental car and was frightened and didn’t know what to do. I spent the next 45 minutes on the phone with Alamo explaining to them where the car was so they could send a tow truck to unlock her car for her.

Cloudy, but pretty here.

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say hey to the dragon

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:29:56am

re: #188 Decatur Deb

To add to your confusion, there’s a Samford Univ. in Birmingham AL and a Stamford College in England. Not even touching the one in Malaysia.

And an Indiana University of Pennsylvania.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:31:09am

re: #195 Barefoot Grin

And an Indiana University of Pennsylvania.

And Miami University in Ohio.

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VegasGolfer  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:31:31am

re: #190 darthstar

CS Fullerton in and maybe UCLA.

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darthstar  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:31:43am

re: #192 VegasGolfer

Love Hanalei Bay. Used to go the a few times a month when I worked there to relax,
It was my idea of how Hawaii should be. I only saw one or two people a day on the beach back then.

It was like that last fall when we were here. That was mostly locals getting their evening rides in. Staying at the St. Regis for the first night before we get our house. Nice place. Will probably use it again for a couple nights to enjoy the amenities. We even have a butler. Pricey though.

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Kafitrar  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:32:51am

re: #195 Barefoot Grin

And an Indiana University of Pennsylvania.

Not to mention Pennsylvania State University (Penn State).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:33:13am

re: #152 dangerman

One is that she was simply unprepared for the interview and didn’t have a team in place that could have ensured she was ready for an inevitable line of inquisition from Stahl.

the answer is right there in the wording. rather than prepare her to answer questions, just brand the interview as an “inquisition” and ignore them.

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darthstar  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:33:31am

re: #197 VegasGolfer

CS Fullerton in and maybe UCLA.

Ah, missed those. Three…we have three! Stanford must have sucked this year to not make the tournament.

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:34:20am

re: #185 ObserverArt

They are hard nuts to crack. They probably think that a win is a win and by the time November comes around they will have stemmed the bleeding.

We are talking about a party that it should be clear to them by now, needs to separate themselves from Trump and yet they seem to want to ride him anyway.

It could be seen they need to run Trump out for their own good. Yet they seem to be obstructing the investigation of obstruction. It’s nuts.

It just does not make any sense. They must see a reason for doing this because to many it looks like political career suicide.

So much of old school political thinking seems to be out the window since 2016.

Public sentiment is heavily in favor of gun control run now and running against the NRA, yet the bulk of the GOP are still toeing the line and refusing to budge from the NRA’s “MOAR GUNZ!!!!” agenda. Why? Because the few votes they might win in November by defying the NRA will be swamped by the votes that vote for a primary challenger or stay home. Same deal with Donny, the GOP may see the damage he’s doing, but they figure they can deal with it in the long run. Just wait things out until 2020, then either run a primary challenger or expect public sentiment to run him out of office. And if he gets reelected, then they do what they did when Dubya won: They use his last four years to run the tables, grabbing up everything that isn’t nailed down before the bottom falls out.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:34:27am

re: #171 lawhawk

I went to HS in inner city Dallas in the late 80s. We had rats. There was exactly ONE computer in the “computer lab.” Our marching band had less than 20 members and marched in uniforms that were older than the students who wore them. There was no student parking lot. No football practice field. When we played schools in podunk towns on the outskirts of the city, the opposing teams would tease us about INS raids because of our predominantly Latino teams. My freshman class had more than 600 students and my graduating class had less than 180.

Several years ago a new state-of-the-art building was built adjacent to the old building. Today the kids who attend my old alma mater are kicking ass. AP classes, award-winning marching band, etc. Giving disadvantaged kids something to take pride in makes a hell of a difference, I can tell you without a doubt.

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VegasGolfer  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:34:28am

re: #198 darthstar

Nice to hear that it can still be like that since it was the ‘90’s when I was there.
My Hawaii friends that live here say its so crowded there that they really don’t like going back unless they have to.
Have Fun.

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:34:36am

re: #192 VegasGolfer

Love Hanalei Bay. Used to go the a few times a month when I worked there to relax,
It was my idea of how Hawaii should be. I only saw one or two people a day on the beach back then.

i was once laying on deserted kauai beach with two of my friends.
we were the only people in sight

mel brooks and anne bancroft walked on about 50 yards from us and plunked their stuff down

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:34:39am

re: #175 darthstar

I just learned Purdue’s in fucking Indiana. Mike Pence country. Who knew?

so is notre dame

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:35:02am

re: #180 dangerman

press 1 for english
press 2 for russian….

not enough updings available for that one!!!

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:36:22am

re: #197 VegasGolfer

CS Fullerton in and maybe UCLA.

Go Fullerton! I was there when it was just a college. On the campus, not attending. I went to the high school across the street.

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darthstar  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:36:31am

re: #206 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

so is notre dame

Yeah, I learned that a while back. So glad my parents didn’t send me there now. I’d hate to be a homophobe.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:39:12am

re: #182 dangerman

true story
when applying to colleges, way back when i lived on Long Island, I want to go to Stanford cause i thought it was in connecticut

indiana university is in bloomington, indiana, illinois state university is located 200 miles away in bloomington, illinois. there have been numerous cases of parents showing up at the wrong university looking for their children…

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:40:25am

re: #199 Kafitrar

Not to mention Pennsylvania State University (Penn State).

I drove to a conference there once at the height of autumn. Such a beautiful place!

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:43:48am

re: #196 Decatur Deb

And Miami University in Ohio.

Named after the native Miami peoples and the Great Miami River that runs on the west side of Ohio into the Ohio just west of Cincinnati. It’s a nice part of Ohio.

They used to be The Redmen, but that was changed to Red Hawks. Known for their football and as the “cradle of college coaches” starting with Paul Brown, Bo Schembechler up to John Harbaugh. Also gave the NFL and Pittsburgh Ben Roethlisberger.

Not sure why a city in Florida is named Miami…gonna have to look that one up. It makes sense for a school along the side of Ohio with Indiana where the natives lived.

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:44:09am

re: #203 Flying Squirrel Girl


Several years ago a new state-of-the-art building was built adjacent to the old building. Today the kids who attend my old alma mater are kicking ass. AP classes, award-winning marching band, etc. Giving disadvantaged kids something to take pride in makes a hell of a difference, I can tell you without a doubt.

giving kids the necessary tools to succeed makes a hell of a difference ;-)

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lawhawk  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:44:24am

Everyone who saw DeVos at her confirmation knew she was dumber than a bag of hammers and was unqualified to do the job. The GOP rubber stamped her anyways, because nothing says education like putting someone who believes in junk science and charter schools and home schooling as the future despite fact that all three make the nation less competitive going forward and it leaves students unprepared for the challenges they face.

DeVos can’t explain why charter schools are better than public schools, despite being a proponent for charter schools. That should be a giveaway that she’s not the sharpest tool in the shed.

That she appears this unprepared for an interview shows they don’t know what they’re doing - and that’s also quite the point. The GOP is intent on sabotaging functioning government in every way imaginable, and having incompetent and unqualified people leading govt agencies is part and parcel of Trumpworld.

Oh, speaking of people and Trumpworld, Trump was busy kvetching this morning about how Democrats were blocking his nominations, including for the State Department.

1) Trump hasn’t even nominated people for all the empty positions in the State Department. He has to nominate someone first before you can get to hearings.
2) The GOP controls the Senate and therefore the GOP are the ones holding up the confirmation process, not Democrats. The GOP has repeatedly rubber stamped Trump picks, despite Trump picking the absolute dregs of humanity to fill all kinds of positions, from Cabinet level on down.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:44:56am

re: #210 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

indiana university is in bloomington, indiana, illinois state university is located 200 miles away in bloomington, illinois. there have been numerous cases of parents showing up at the wrong university looking for their children…

My Pennsylvania HS/college died in the 1970s. One of it’s most important tasks was prepping missionaries for New Guinea. At about the time St. Fidelis died, a new St. Fidelis was founded by its graduates 14,000 miles away. Here is a recent rector and his counterpart:

Somebody’s culture is getting appropriated.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:47:19am

re: #169 Eclectic Cyborg

I am really curious what Stormy wants to share.

I am not. Ok, as long as I “see” it third hand. I don’t even want to read whatever “it” is, through my eyes.

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geosherman  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:47:40am

YouTube, the Great Radicalizer
nytimes.com

Zeynep Tufekci
At one point during the 2016 presidential election campaign, I watched a bunch of videos of Donald Trump rallies on YouTube. I was writing an article about his appeal to his voter base and wanted to confirm a few quotations.

Soon I noticed something peculiar. YouTube started to recommend and “autoplay” videos for me that featured white supremacist rants, Holocaust denials and other disturbing content.

Was Max Headroom too prescient? We want more and more edgy content just like we want more sugar and fats?

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:49:09am

re: #215 Decatur Deb

My Pennsylvania HS/college died in the 1970s. One of it’s most important tasks was prepping missionaries for New Guinea. At about the time St. Fidelis died, a new St. Fidelis was founded by its graduates 14,000 miles away. Here is a recent rector and his counterpart:

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Somebody’s culture is getting appropriated.

Hand-holding must be part of the outfit.

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:49:38am

re: #212 ObserverArt

Named after the native Miami peoples and the Great Miami River that runs on the west side of Ohio into the Ohio just west of Cincinnati. It’s a nice part of Ohio.

They used to be The Redmen, but that was changed to Red Hawks. Known for their football and as the “cradle of college coaches” starting with Paul Brown, Bo Schembechler up to John Harbaugh. Also gave the NFL and Pittsburgh Ben Roethlisberger.

Not sure why a city in Florida is named Miami…gonna have to look that one up. It makes sense for a school along the side of Ohio with Indiana where the natives lived.

if miami florida wasnt named to honor all those ohio miamians, it could be for these folks (just a guess)

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Kafitrar  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:50:16am

re: #212 ObserverArt

Named after the native Miami peoples and the Great Miami River that runs on the west side of Ohio into the Ohio just west of Cincinnati. It’s a nice part of Ohio.

They used to be The Redmen, but that was changed to Red Hawks. Known for their football and as the “cradle of college coaches” starting with Paul Brown, Bo Schembechler up to John Harbaugh. Also gave the NFL and Pittsburgh Ben Roethlisberger.

Not sure why a city in Florida is named Miami…gonna have to look that one up. It makes sense for a school along the side of Ohio with Indiana where the natives lived.

According to the Florida Department of State, Miami is named after Lake Mayaimi (now Lake Okeechobee). So, a coincidence.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:50:59am

re: #218 wrenchwench

Hand-holding must be part of the outfit.

Simple politeness. It’s either that, or they have you over for dinner.

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:51:02am

re: #209 darthstar

Yeah, I learned that a while back. So glad my parents didn’t send me there now. I’d hate to be a homophobe.

I suppose we should treat that BS crack like all of your “fly over” thinking.

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:52:06am

re: #214 lawhawk

re devos:

it took pence to break the tie vote
that’s how qualified the senate, in its entirety, thought she was

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Skip Intro  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:52:17am

re: #214 lawhawk

Too bad CBS didn’t do this interview before the DeVos moron was confirmed. Are they going to sit on the Stormy Daniels interview too until it will no longer matter?

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:52:45am

re: #212 ObserverArt

Named after the native Miami peoples and the Great Miami River that runs on the west side of Ohio into the Ohio just west of Cincinnati. It’s a nice part of Ohio.

They used to be The Redmen, but that was changed to Red Hawks. Known for their football and as the “cradle of college coaches” starting with Paul Brown, Bo Schembechler up to John Harbaugh. Also gave the NFL and Pittsburgh Ben Roethlisberger.

Not sure why a city in Florida is named Miami…gonna have to look that one up. It makes sense for a school along the side of Ohio with Indiana where the natives lived.

I should add…it is a great liberal university. Ranked in the 70s if I remember correctly.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:53:15am

re: #190 darthstar

Also of note is a lack of California schools in the tournament. San Diego? That’s it?

Cal State Fullerton. I’m a proud Alum. Probably won’t make it into the 2nd round, but go Titans.

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lawhawk  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:55:05am

re: #224 Skip Intro

Too bad CBS didn’t do this interview before the DeVos moron was confirmed. Are they going to sit on the Stormy Daniels interview too until it will no longer matter?

Access Hollywood tape didn’t end Trump. Why assume this will?

I want to see Trumpworld consigned to the ash heap, but to count on this, or even Mueller before 2019 at the earliest, is a reach.

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ckkatz  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:56:44am

re: #219 dangerman

if miami florida wasnt named to honor all those ohio miamians, it could be for these folks (just a guess)

The Wiki entry for Miami agrees with you:

“Miami is named after the Mayaimi, a Native American tribe that lived around Lake Okeechobee until the 17th or 18th century.”

But there is an Ohio connection:

“Miami is noted as “the only major city in the United States conceived by a woman, Julia Tuttle”, a local citrus grower and a wealthy Cleveland native. “

en.wikipedia.org

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:57:22am
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Stanley Sea  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:58:10am

re: #190 darthstar

Also of note is a lack of California schools in the tournament. San Diego? That’s it?

UCLA has a chance to play in.

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BeachDem  Mar 12, 2018 • 9:59:27am

re: #225 ObserverArt

I should add…it is a great liberal university. Ranked in the 70s if I remember correctly.

Sadly, none of that rubbed off on Paul Ryan when he went there.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:01:19am

re: #229 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Why doesn’t Donald propose to do away with Gun Free Zones then if he hates them so much, why is Mar-A-Lago a gun free zone?

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ckkatz  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:01:44am

re: #220 Kafitrar

According to the Florida Department of State, Miami is named after Lake Mayaimi (now Lake Okeechobee). So, a coincidence.

Very interesting find! Which brings up questions as to whether and, if so, why the native Americans were ‘disappeared’ from the naming narrative.

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lawhawk  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:03:28am

re: #229 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

More people with guns aren’t a deterrent to those who wish to do harm.

Reagan was shot and nearly assassinated despite having a phalanx of Secret Service members and Capitol Police. The USSS would take a bullet for Reagan. It didn’t stop the shooting. It didn’t deter or prevent the shooting.

Why do the GOP/NRA believe more guns will prevent shootings anywhere? It’s magic thinking, but it also spurs gun sales, which is the only thing the NRA cares about.

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darthstar  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:03:30am
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Interesting Times  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:04:01am

#Americana

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darthstar  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:04:10am
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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:11:18am

re: #237 darthstar

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Continue to do so. I mean if they don’t like the Clintons ideological views fine but they’ve always attacked them as immoral. The RR are nothing but hypocrites who are fine with judging the morals of those they don’t like but eager to make any excuse for one of their own or in Trump’s case, enablers.

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:13:40am

re: #228 ckkatz

The Wiki entry for Miami agrees with you:

“Miami is named after the Mayaimi, a Native American tribe that lived around Lake Okeechobee until the 17th or 18th century.”

But there is an Ohio connection:

“Miami is noted as “the only major city in the United States conceived by a woman, Julia Tuttle”, a local citrus grower and a wealthy Cleveland native. “

en.wikipedia.org

Damn Ohioans…got their fingers in everything.

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:15:36am

re: #231 BeachDem

Sadly, none of that rubbed off on Paul Ryan when he went there.

Ryan went to Miami U??? Did not know that.

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Skip Intro  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:17:15am

re: #227 lawhawk

I don’t assume it will but further humiliating Melon can’t be a bad thing.

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JordanRules  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:17:40am

re: #235 darthstar

Make photoshop great again!

Stormy in at least 9” heels (would those be mini stilts?) and Melon with private wind for her hair give this one a certain theatrical touch I suppose.

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:18:05am

re: #235 darthstar

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Looks like a Photoshop, the perspectives are not right unless Stormy is standing on some kind of a ramp. IMO.

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darthstar  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:18:32am

The coffee machine in this room doesn’t suck, either.

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darthstar  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:20:03am

re: #242 JordanRules

Make photoshop great again!

Stormy in at least 9” heels (would those be mini stilts?) and Melon with private wind for her hair give this one a certain theatrical touch I suppose.

Fuck. I hate photoshopped pics. But Stormy and Donald both have the same blank stare on their faces, like they both just remembered she forgot to remove Trump’s butt plug.

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darthstar  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:22:02am

re: #245 darthstar

Fuck. I hate photoshopped pics. But Stormy and Donald both have the same blank stare on their faces, like they both just remembered she forgot to remove Trump’s butt plug.

Being a responsible tweeter, I echoed that sentiment in a retweet.

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:22:21am

re: #245 darthstar

Fuck. I hate photoshopped pics. But Stormy and Donald both have the same blank stare on their faces, like they both just remembered she forgot to remove Trump’s butt plug.

You really think Donny would bring Stormy to an event with Melania there too?

Come on man! He’s bold but not that bold.

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jaunte  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:22:26am

re: #237 darthstar

America, this is not about partisanship; this is about principle. Each of us must proclaim that this situation is over the line, that women matter, that their voices and their stories matter, that propriety, honor and character matter.

I think what we keep discovering over and over, ad nauseam, is that Trump supporters have no principles.

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BeachDem  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:22:32am

re: #240 ObserverArt

Ryan went to Miami U??? Did not know that.

U.S. Representative Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, a 1992 graduate of Miami University, is the new speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives…Ryan, a political science and economics double major, worked on one of Boehner’s campaigns in the ’90s and interned with then-Sen. Bob Kasten his junior year. He was a member of the Delta Tau Delta fraternity and has said he found his identity while a student at Miami.

miamioh.edu

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makeitstop  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:24:58am

Okay. Now…what are you going to do about it?

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:27:05am

re: #249 BeachDem

U.S. Representative Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, a 1992 graduate of Miami University, is the new speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives…Ryan, a political science and economics double major, worked on one of Boehner’s campaigns in the ’90s and interned with then-Sen. Bob Kasten his junior year. He was a member of the Delta Tau Delta fraternity and has said he found his identity while a student at Miami.

miamioh.edu

I was reading his wiki entries found the prof that may have messed him up:

Ryan has a bachelor’s degree in economics and political science from Miami University in Oxford, Ohio,[29] where he became interested in the writings of Friedrich Hayek, Ludwig von Mises, and Milton Friedman.[20] He often visited the office of libertarian professor Richard Hart to discuss the theories of these economists and of Ayn Rand.[20][30] Hart introduced Ryan to National Review,[20] and with Hart’s recommendation Ryan began an internship in the D.C. office of Wisconsin U.S. Senator Bob Kasten where he worked with Kasten’s foreign affairs adviser.[20][31]

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:27:22am

re: #229 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Very strong improvement and strengthening of background checks will be fully backed by White House. Legislation moving forward. Bump Stocks will soon be out.

Docking fed workers pay for errors? Yeah right.
I can still sell privately to anyone right?

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:27:28am

re: #250 makeitstop

Okay. Now…what are you going to do about it?

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A sternly worded letter.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:28:03am

re: #240 ObserverArt

Well, that makes three people now that I know of that went to Miami.
Ben Roethlisberger, Paul Ryan, and a Captain I used to work with at the Joint Readiness Training Center

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jaunte  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:29:04am
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Ace-o-aces  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:29:08am

Jerry Brown is trending on Twitter, so you know what that means…

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darthstar  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:30:31am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:31:52am

re: #257 darthstar

I’m really curious what [Huckabee Sanders’] next gig will be after this charade comes to an end?

RW commentator

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makeitstop  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:31:54am

re: #253 Targetpractice

A sternly worded letter.

Yeah, her concern will be very deep.

I get the feeling she owes the same debt to Putin that Trump does.

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darthstar  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:32:00am

Chuck Todd is not a journalist. So what if Trump called him a sleepy-eyed son of a bitch. He’s still a fucking douche.

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Kragar  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:32:20am
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Jack Burton  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:32:25am

re: #257 darthstar

Wingnut welfare gravy train. Probably Fox.

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darthstar  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:32:42am

re: #258 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

RW commentator

For a bit. But she’s got such an awful personality I can’t see her being a popular guest.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:33:00am

re: #262 Jack Burton

Wingnut welfare grave train. Probably Fox.

does not have the looks to fit the style, but they will find room for her somewhere. loyalty must be rewarded

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jaunte  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:35:23am

re: #261 Kragar

“The culprit was Russian in nationality, but not ethnically Russian.”

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Jack Burton  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:35:47am

re: #261 Kragar

“She just gave Putin an out”

Doesn’t May have Putin to thank for her ascendancy to PM as well? Since the Kremlin agitprop project to destroy the EU known as Brexit succeeded?

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jaunte  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:36:16am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:36:19am

re: #262 Jack Burton

Wingnut welfare grave train. Probably Fox.

Grave train? As in, after this, the rest of your career is dead?

//

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:36:36am

re: #250 makeitstop

Okay. Now…what are you going to do about it?

[Embedded content]

Because whatever it is, you’ll have the full support of President Trump!!

Just kidding….

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Jack Burton  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:38:08am

re: #268 Blind Frog Belly White

I fixed that typo within about 3 seconds. You hit “new comments” at just the right time apparently.

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:38:17am

re: #238 HappyWarrior

Continue to do so. I mean if they don’t like the Clintons ideological views fine but they’ve always attacked them as immoral. The RR are nothing but hypocrites who are fine with judging the morals of those they don’t like but eager to make any excuse for one of their own or in Trump’s case, enablers.

Hell they’re rewriting the 10 commandments to rationalize giving him a pass

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:38:46am

re: #258 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

RW commentator

Not photogenic enough.

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jaunte  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:39:14am

re: #272 HappyWarrior

Arkansas radio.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:40:59am

re: #271 dangerman

Hell they’re rewriting the 10 commandments to rationalize giving him a pass

I mean it’s not going to stop them from being holier than thou assholes but this time I hope the Dems fight back and call Falwell, Jeffries, & these other crites what they are.

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wrenchwench  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:41:00am

re: #270 Jack Burton

I fixed that typo within about 3 seconds. You hit “new comments” at just the right time apparently.

The only thing worse is seeing it go by in the Spy, later, like when it gets a ding, and the editing time has expired. Damn typos.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:41:19am

re: #271 dangerman

Hell they’re rewriting the 10 commandments to rationalize giving him a pass

“Thou shalt not commit adultery, but if thou dost, make sure it’s with a porn star”

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darthstar  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:41:22am
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darthstar  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:41:45am

Okay….time for me to vacation. Have a good day, everyone.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:42:25am

re: #276 Blind Frog Belly White

“Thou shalt not admit to committing adultery” probably works better.

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:42:28am

re: #261 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Ayep. Expect the Russian gov’t to suddenly announce that they “lost” some canisters of nerve gas and were hiding such out of fear of “embarrassment,” thus explaining how a military-grade agent just wound up being in an attack on a Russian double agent.

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Kragar  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:44:55am

re: #280 Targetpractice

Ayep. Expect the Russian gov’t to suddenly announce that they “lost” some canisters of nerve gas and were hiding such out of fear of “embarrassment,” thus explaining how a military-grade agent just wound up being in an attack on a Russian double agent.

“The suspects accidentally killed themselves using the nerve agent, but we have successfully recovered the stolen materials.”

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ObserverArt  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:45:49am

Sarah Huckabee Sanders’ Church of the Redeemer.

She’ll be the pastor and founder. Specializing in the redemption of Republican Political Candidates that have fallen and need Sarah to help pick them back up through lies and misdirection.

Resurrection is our business.

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lawhawk  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:45:58am

re: #281 Kragar

It was suicide with 6 bullets to the back of the head and one through the chest from 6 meters away as good measure.

He was very thorough in planning out his own suicide. /

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Kragar  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:47:33am
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Kragar  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:48:18am

re: #283 lawhawk

It was suicide with 6 bullets to the back of the head and one through the chest from 6 meters away as good measure.

He was very thorough in planning out his own suicide. /

“He shot himself 3 times with a double barrel shotgun.”

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:48:55am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:48:59am

re: #285 Kragar

“He shot himself 3 times with a double barrel shotgun.”

If at first you don’t succeed, try, try again.

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:49:18am

re: #276 Blind Frog Belly White

“Thou shalt not commit adultery, but if thou dost, make sure it’s with a porn star”

He tried to get an nda
That’s good enough for us

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dangerman  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:52:24am

re: #267 jaunte

JPrime Minister of United Kingdom publicly accuses Russia of attempted assassination by nerve agent on NATO soil. What will the president of the United States say & do

Hey there’s good people on both sides

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 12, 2018 • 10:55:38am

re: #284 Kragar

I believe it’s three bombs

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2018 • 11:01:26am

re: #285 Kragar

“He shot himself 3 times with a double barrel shotgun.”

“The point is we got back all the missing materials, minus what was used in the assassination attempt that was totally not our fault…so, you know…no harm done.”

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VegasGolfer  Mar 12, 2018 • 11:06:44am

re: #290 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Very fine people..

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2018 • 11:07:11am

Quite possibly the greatest state tourism video of all time.

Only Slightly Exaggerated | Travel Oregon

Looks to me like it was done by Studio Ghibli - the animation style strikes me as Miyazaki’s type of work.

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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2018 • 11:08:28am

Then again, knowing Vlad, he may just give a speech denying the Russian gov’t had anything to do with the attack, that the Brits are lying about such to cover up for their failure to protect Sergei, and the end on a not so subtle dare for May to do something about it.

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JordanRules  Mar 12, 2018 • 11:08:55am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 12, 2018 • 11:11:30am

re: #295 JordanRules

There’s presidential “elections” coming up in Russia. They need to stir some shit up to get people voting for the Czar, after all.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 12, 2018 • 11:16:50am
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Targetpractice  Mar 12, 2018 • 11:17:30am

re: #296 Dr Lizardo

There’s presidential “elections” coming up in Russia. They need to stir some shit up to get people voting for the Czar, after all.

Ayep, Russian politics since WWII has largely been defined by the idea that only the guy in charge (initially the Premier and these days the President) can protect the Rodina-mat from those nations who would seek to bring her down.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 12, 2018 • 11:21:05am

Fresh reason for cautious optimism:

Dem Gains in CD18 Special
monmouth.edu

Unfortunately, Lamb is not running against Roy Moore.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 12, 2018 • 11:21:33am

My team the Houston Astros visited the White House today, and Trump being his usual classy self, skipped shaking Jose Altuve’s hand. The kiss of fucking death just jinxed my team, and now we’ll miss the playoffs. THANKS, ORANGE ASSHOLE.

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Jack Burton  Mar 12, 2018 • 11:22:29am

re: #298 Targetpractice

Ayep, Russian politics since WWII has largely been defined by the idea that only the guy in charge (initially the Premier and these days the President) can protect the Rodina-mat from those nations who would seek to bring her down.

Or whatever other position Vladimir Putin is temporarily occupying to get around term-limits and pretend like he’s respecting the Russian constitution.

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Belafon  Mar 12, 2018 • 11:42:00am

re: #158 ObserverArt

The Alabama election was just as scrutinized.

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dirkdigglerjr  Mar 12, 2018 • 12:51:41pm

re: #226 I Would Prefer Not To

If this were the College World Series, I would like your chances.

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dirkdigglerjr  Mar 12, 2018 • 12:56:52pm

re: #257 darthstar

1 - Run for Governor or Arkansas
2 - Run for U.S. Senate in Arkansas
3 - Fox News
4 - Wal-Mart greeter

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gocart mozart  Mar 12, 2018 • 1:47:56pm

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