Chaos Watch: The White House Revolving Door Is Spinning Wildly

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As usual, our pathetic so-called president lacked the courage to tell Rex Tillerson he was fired before announcing it to the world. Tillerson finally got a call from Trump more than three hours after the Washington Post reported Trump was giving him the boot.

Steve Goldstein, undersecretary of state for public diplomacy and public affairs, said that Tillerson was “unaware of the reason” for his firing and had not spoken directly with Trump. He said Kelly told Tillerson in the call only that “he could expect a tweet” from the president, but it was not conveyed that the decision to fire him was final.

“He found out that he was terminated today,” Goldstein said.

And Steve Goldstein is now the former undersecretary of state, because he was instantly fired too, after making this statement.

But those aren’t the only axes that fell today; Trump’s personal assistant was also abruptly fired and escorted out of the White House without even being allowed to grab his jacket or any personal belongings.

President Donald Trump’s personal assistant, John McEntee, was fired on Monday, according to administration officials who spoke with the Wall Street Journal.

McEntee was reportedly escorted out of the White House without being given time to collect his personal belongings, including his jacket, officials told WSJ.

It is still unclear what led to McEntee’s ousting. The WSJ reported that he was fired over unspecified security issues. According to CNN, McEntee is currently under investigation by the Department of Homeland Security for financial crimes, which are reportedly unrelated to Trump. 

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:26:54pm

If the WH revolving door spins any faster it will start to change the length of the day on Earth.

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:28:46pm

Bringing this up from downstairs, because the Russian embassy worded their tweet oh so carefully:

Looks …. familiar….

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:29:14pm

Meanwhile, a hysterical voice rings out at the NYT: “THERE’S GOTTA BE A ‘DEMS IN DISARRAY!’ ANGLE HERE SOMEWHERE!!!!”

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:29:16pm

NO CHAOS! NO CHAOS! YOU’RE THE CHAOS!

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:29:24pm
It is still unclear what led to McEntee’s ousting. The WSJ reported that he was fired over unspecified security issues. According to CNN, McEntee is currently under investigation by the Department of Homeland Security for financial crimes, which are reportedly unrelated to Trump.

That McEntee is under investigation, was booted from the WH by the Secret Service with all due haste, isn’t stopping him from landing in Trumpworld as a campaign adviser for Trump’s 2020 run.

Yeah, Trump doesn’t care about the rule of law or legality. He just does whatever he damned well pleases while the feckless and craven GOP rubber stamps his actions.

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Sea Mexican!  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:30:03pm

re: #1 freetoken

If the WH revolving door spins any faster it will start to change the length of the day on Earth.

I hope it spins fast enough that it can turn time back to Nov 7 2016.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:31:06pm

re: #5 lawhawk

That McEntee is under investigation, was booted from the WH by the Secret Service with all due haste, isn’t stopping him from landing in Trumpworld as a campaign adviser for Trump’s 2020 run.

Yeah, Trump doesn’t care about the rule of law or legality. He just does whatever he damned well pleases while the feckless and craven GOP rubber stamps his actions.

The set of events only makes sense if you assume that he kicked McEntee from the White House to avoid doing so at a later date after the press learned that he was under investigation.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:31:19pm

Carryover from downstairs.

re: #617 Kragar

So now Rex is a part of the “DEEP STATE”?

These fucking guys

They are making it true by repeating it, which should scare the shit out of all of us. Veracity is not the standard of epistemology being applied: what’s “true” is what’s emotionally fulfilling in the moment.

This all-encompassing “Deep State” kudzu warblegarble is better looked at as a harbinger than an ethos. What they really want is deference to their whims, and anything but that is an existential threat. Since they have to explain away their failure as not their failures, and can’t concede either weakness or fallibility, the only out is to see a conspiracy so vast it encompasses everyone.

This is the dark side of “cannot fail, can only be failed.” The second half of that equation demands many sacrificial goats.

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:32:09pm

Not yet having rode into the sunset:

McCain: Trump’s CIA pick was involved in ‘one of the darkest chapters in American history’

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on Tuesday condemned President Trump’s decision to nominate Gina Haspel to become the director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), saying she was involved in “one of darkest chapters in American history.”

While he expressed confidence in current CIA Director Mike Pompeo’s ability to serve as secretary of State, an appointment Trump announced earlier Tuesday, McCain said in a statement that Haspel needs to explain her stance on torture.

“The torture of detainees in U.S. custody during the last decade was one of the darkest chapters in American history,” McCain said. “Ms. Haspel needs to explain the nature and extent of her involvement in the CIA’s interrogation program during the confirmation process.”

[…]

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:33:20pm
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Ace-o-aces  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:34:03pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:34:05pm

re: #9 freetoken

Not yet having rode into the sunset:

McCain: Trump’s CIA pick was involved in ‘one of the darkest chapters in American history’

McCain went on to say “But if she doesn’t, I’ll still vote for her because Donny has my balls in a jar in the White House fridge.”

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:34:56pm

Speaking of chaos…. Palestinian PM was nearly assassinated today while visiting Gaza.

He was there to open up a new sewage treatment facility when a bomb hit his convoy.

Fatah blamed Hamas for the attack, and this likely ends reconciliation. Hamas condemned the attack, right before they renewed their arguments with Fatah.

It was the first time that Fatah’s leaders went to Gaza in years, and it again highlights the gulf between the two groups who each control a portion of territory claimed in the name of all Palestinians, but who aren’t willing to share power with anyone else.

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blueraven  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:36:58pm

re: #8 The Ghost of a Flea

Carryover from downstairs.

They are making it true by repeating it, which should scare the shit out of all of us. Veracity is not the standard of epistemology being applied: what’s “true” is what’s emotionally fulfilling in the moment.

This all-encompassing “Deep State” kudzu warblegarble is better looked at as a harbinger than an ethos. What they really want is deference to their whims, and anything but that is an existential threat. Since they have to explain away their failure as not their failures, and can’t concede either weakness or fallibility, the only out is to see a conspiracy so vast it encompasses everyone.

This is the dark side of “cannot fail, can only be failed.” The second half of that equation demands many sacrificial goats.

Yep, we in this country have already established just how gullible we are.

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calochortus  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:37:17pm

Busy morning here. Did I miss any… Oh.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:37:25pm
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Kragar  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:37:26pm
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Ace-o-aces  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:37:44pm

re: #13 lawhawk

Speaking of chaos…. Palestinian PM was nearly assassinated today while visiting Gaza.

Does Jared know?

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:39:58pm

re: #17 Kragar

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“Sorry Rex, but I’m wallpapering my mansion in $100 bills, I can’t afford to go down with you. But I’ll save a seat at Mar-a-Lago for you later.”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:40:28pm

re: #14 blueraven

Yep, we in this country have already established just how gullible we are.

It’s a human bean thing.

Fuck it. I love that typo and it’s staying.

It’s the gross thing that underlies a lot of horrible atrocities, and the actual brand slapped on the excuse making acts as a channel for that mix of narcissism, rage, and fear. So ideology is often less of a foundation for character and more of a sewage pipe.

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dangerman  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:41:52pm

re: #9 freetoken

Not yet having rode into the sunset:

McCain: Trump’s CIA pick was involved in ‘one of the darkest chapters in American history’

Tuesday, McCain said in a statement that Haspel needs to explain her stance on torture.

“The torture of detainees in U.S. custody during the last decade was one of the darkest chapters in American history,” McCain said. “Ms. Haspel needs to explain the nature and extent of her involvement in the CIA’s interrogation program during the confirmation process.”

that’s a relief
all she has to do is explain herself

i was afraid mccain wouldnt vote for her

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dangerman  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:42:22pm

re: #12 Targetpractice

McCain went on to say “But if she doesn’t, I’ll still vote for her because Donny has my balls in a jar in the White House fridge.”

beat me by that much

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:42:55pm

Trump arrives in California without the usual lawmakers in tow

President Trump broke with standard practice Tuesday, flying to California without any lawmakers from the state.

Such trips are normally a perk, most often for lawmakers of the president’s political party, […]

Trump’s solo flight suggests the political risk he brings to state Republicans given his low popularity in California. While aides aboard the plane, which landed at 11:23 a.m. local time, said they knew of no visits Trump would have with local lawmakers, Rep. Duncan Hunter was spotted at the site where Trump will inspect prototypes for a southern border wall.

Many Republican candidates had indicated they would keep their distance.

[…]

Like a rare desert tortoise, spotting the Lesser Duncan has become a past-time for avocational biologists. Lesser Duncan’s have often been found in areas in which vaping material can be found.

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dangerman  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:43:51pm

re: #16 lawhawk

And this one over here will be great as a squash court.

That one? It’s even better.

Oh, and every last one of them can be circumvented with a rope and/or ladder.

“jolly good about the squash court”

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:44:15pm

re: #14 blueraven

Yep, we in this country have already established just how gullible we are.

It’s not gullibility, it’s far worse. It’s the knowingly complicit, reiterative self-brainwashing necessary of the praetorian class of cult enforcers who invent and repeat lies to maintain the overall shared cult mentality. It’s created through the sheer cynical repetition of a known lie until inertia takes over and the lie become a mass consensual hallucination.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:44:35pm

Re Mars trip:

“Once every 100 years, earth, sun, & mars align. Such an event happened on 2 May, 1984, day of the story.

A team of 15 was sent to mars to synchronize with the event. Spacecraft Olympus landed on Phobos, a moon of mars. A team of 5 went to martian surface in lander Pegasus. An accident on mars has rendered the lander useless - the only one with the mission. The 5 men that came with it are doomed to die when their oxygen runs out - soon. No hope of rescue. Part way through the story, Olympus will blast off for earth from Phobos with its 10 men.

Of the 5 stranded men, 4 have died. Last one, the narrator, still has a day to live - others apparently died a bit early so one man can record the rare earth transit.”
amazon.com

Given the opportunity and a 3% chance of a successful landing, it would be hard to decline.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:46:24pm

re: #23 freetoken

Trump arrives in California without the usual lawmakers in tow

Like a rare desert tortoise, spotting the Lesser Duncan has become a past-time for avocational biologists. Lesser Duncan’s have often been found in areas in which vaping material can be found.

I suspect that, after tonight, the number of lawmakers who want to be seen voluntarily in Trump’s presence will diminish spectacularly.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:47:22pm

re: #3 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, a hysterical voice rings out at the NYT: “THERE’S GOTTA BE A ‘DEMS IN DISARRAY!’ ANGLE HERE SOMEWHERE!!!!”

If Lamb loses tonight in a district that won’t be a district in eight months they can lead with how Dems are losing and out of touch.

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dangerman  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:47:50pm

made this yesterday

chocolaty
yummy

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:48:05pm

The guy’s a crook too.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:48:37pm

re: #28 Sir John Barron

If Lamb loses tonight in a district that won’t be a district in eight months they can lead with how Dems are losing and out of touch.

They can, but they’re gonna be drowned out by the screaming from Republicans if Saccone fails to win by double digits. And if the margin is less than 5%, you’ll swear that the Ragnarok just began in Washington D.C.

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dangerman  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:49:59pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

It’s not gullibility, it’s far worse. It’s the knowingly complicit, reiterative self-brainwashing necessary of the praetorian class of cult enforcers who invent and repeat lies to maintain the overall shared cult mentality. It’s created through the sheer cynical repetition of a known lie until inertia takes over and the lie become a mass consensual hallucination.

exactly
some are vulnerable, gullible, and are duped
the rest willingly submit to the asshattery. they embrace and accept it

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:50:00pm

Alrighty, time to call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:50:05pm

re: #30 JordanRules

Jesus thundering fuck, a $35,000 dinner? What are they serving, diamond-encrusted filet mignon and caviar made from a coelacanth?

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:51:00pm
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calochortus  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:51:39pm

re: #30 JordanRules

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The guy’s a crook too.

If details are “available upon RSVP” does that mean if I respond “no,” they’ll send me the details?

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:51:52pm

re: #34 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Jesus thundering fuck, a $35,000 dinner? What are they serving, diamond-encrusted filet mignon and caviar made from a coelacanth?

Bullshit Flambe.

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BeachDem  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:51:55pm

re: #9 freetoken

Not yet having rode into the sunset:

McCain: Trump’s CIA pick was involved in ‘one of the darkest chapters in American history’

I think their use of “condemned” is a bit strong in viewing McCain’s “mavericky” opposition to the torture lady.

“Ms. Haspel needs to explain the nature and extent of her involvement in the CIA’s interrogation program during the confirmation process.”

So I guess if she explains it, old Johnny McMaverick will be a-ok with her appointment.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:51:59pm

re: #34 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Jesus thundering fuck, a $35,000 dinner? What are they serving, diamond-encrusted filet mignon and caviar made from a coelacanth?

Tax cuts.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:52:07pm
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calochortus  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:52:32pm

re: #34 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Jesus thundering fuck, a $35,000 dinner? What are they serving, diamond-encrusted filet mignon and caviar made from a coelacanth?

Wedge salad with blue cheese dressing.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:53:20pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

It’s not gullibility, it’s far worse. It’s the knowingly complicit, reiterative self-brainwashing necessary of the praetorian class of cult enforcers who invent and repeat lies to maintain the overall shared cult mentality. It’s created through the sheer cynical repetition of a known lie until inertia takes over and the lie become a mass consensual hallucination.

“How do I excuse what I want to do?”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:53:51pm

re: #41 calochortus

Wedge salad with blue cheese dressing.

Quarter pounders with cheese.

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S'latch  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:54:02pm

I remember writing a letter to Senator Bob Corker back in early January of 2017. I remember urging Corker to oppose the confirmation of Rex Tillerson because of Tillerson’s ties to the Russian oil and gas industry. I didn’t expect Senator Corker to not confirm him, and Corker did as I expected. The Senate Foreign Relations Committee approved Tillerson’s nomination 11-10, on a party line vote, on January 23. Tillerson turned out to be somewhat less awful than I expected. Blaming Russia for the nerve gas poisoning in the UK must have been the final straw for Trump. Tillerson wasn’t corrupt and dishonest enough for Trump. Mike Pompeo will be worse than Tillerson, but is anyone really corrupt and dishonest enough for Trump? How low will my country sink?

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:54:07pm

re: #41 calochortus

Wedge salad with blue cheese dressing.

Burnt steak with ketchup

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:54:34pm

re: #9 freetoken

Not yet having rode into the sunset:

McCain: Trump’s CIA pick was involved in ‘one of the darkest chapters in American history’

He is right.

Gina Haspel ran a black site in Thailand and oversaw the serial waterboarding and prolonged physical assaults on one detainee who turned out to be the wrong person (he also lost one eye during the process and apparently drowned and had to be medically revived during one waterboarding session).

She then had ALL of the interrogation tapes shredded.

She should be in front of The Hague answering questions, and it sickens me to see pundits on TV excusing her and saying “Well, if you want to exclude candidates who were involved in harsh interrogation then you would have to exclude an entire generation of CIA officers!”

That is a fucking start.

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sizzzzlerz  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:54:58pm

re: #23 freetoken

Trump arrives in California without the usual lawmakers in tow

There mere fact this shithead is in the same state as I, even if separated by 600 miles, still gives me the willies. It is comforting to know, however, that what few GOP congress-snakes still remain in office here in CA understand the toxicity of him. Proximity to him, however, is the least of their problems, though. Chaining them together will become the favorite sport in November. That, they won’t be able to avoid.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:55:39pm

re: #46 Scottish Dragon

She should be in front of the Hague answering questions, and it sickens me to see pundits on TV excusing her and saying “Well, if you want to exclude candidates who were involved in harsh interrogation then you would have to exclude an entire generation of CIA officers!

I, for one, would have zero problems with that whatsoever.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:56:19pm

re: #41 calochortus

One fresh lettuce wedge salad, coming right up.

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mmmirele  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:57:02pm

re: #40 Ace-o-aces

Is this something recommended by Stefon of SNL fame? It really does sound like the beginning of a “New York’s hottest nightclub is” joke.

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calochortus  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:57:51pm

re: #49 The Ghost of a Flea

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One fresh lettuce wedge salad, coming right up.

Well, that’s a different take on it.

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 12:58:30pm

Go away amway lady!!!!!!!!!

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sizzzzlerz  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:00:27pm

re: #49 The Ghost of a Flea

[Embedded content]

One fresh lettuce wedge salad, coming right up.

One of Bosch’s more, ummmm, unconventional pieces.

Whatever herb they were smoking in the 15th century must of been da bomb.

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:00:36pm

re: #52 JordanRules

Maybe if Amway had an arms catalog…

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:00:44pm

re: #49 The Ghost of a Flea

What in the hell is that picture??!!

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:02:19pm

re: #52 JordanRules

Go away amway lady!!!!!!!!!

“As long as none of them say reducing guns.”

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:02:52pm

re: #55 Scottish Dragon

What in the hell is that picture??!!

I think it’s that strip club in Vegas that Dotard went to and eventually got shut down for pee games and stuff.

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:03:26pm

Trying to rationalize the irrational:

How Mike Pompeo Could Contain Trump’s Worst Instincts

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:03:51pm
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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:03:58pm

re: #57 JordanRules

I think it’s that strip club in Vegas that Dotard went to and eventually got shut down for pee games and stuff.

You win the internet today.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:04:29pm

I see it is from the Garden of Earthly Delights.

Damn…..

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calochortus  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:04:48pm

re: #53 sizzzzlerz

One of Bosch’s more, ummmm, unconventional pieces.

Whatever herb they were smoking in the 15th century must of been da bomb.

Ergot?

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:05:25pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:05:27pm

re: #55 Scottish Dragon

It’s a detail from the right panel Hieronymous Bosch’s triptych “Garden of Earthly Delights.” It’s a bit unclear what his intent was with the whole painting, but the right panel is Hell, and all the stuff is allegorical representations of sins and the apt punishment.

Though I must confess that I have no idea how all the crazy detail (for example, bird-head has clay pots on its feet and a cauldron on its head) is “read.”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:06:02pm

re: #9 freetoken

Not yet having rode into the sunset:

McCain: Trump’s CIA pick was involved in ‘one of the darkest chapters in American history’Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on Tuesday condemned President Trump’s decision to nominate Gina Haspel to become the director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), saying she was involved in “one of darkest chapters in American history.”

While he expressed confidence in current CIA Director Mike Pompeo’s ability to serve as secretary of State, an appointment Trump announced earlier Tuesday, McCain said in a statement that Haspel needs to explain her stance on torture.

“The torture of detainees in U.S. custody during the last decade was one of the darkest chapters in American history,” McCain said. “Ms. Haspel needs to explain the nature and extent of her involvement in the CIA’s interrogation program during the confirmation process.”

Explain herself? I still see, and smell, burned bodies every time I hear the word “napalm.” What is wrong with McCain that he does not feel the torturers breaking his arms at the Hanoi Hilton every time he hears this woman’s name? She needs to explain in front of the International Court of Justice, not the US Senate; with her freedom, not a cushy promotion, on the line.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:06:18pm

re: #59 Kragar

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“Backing”? Bullshit, this is the functional equivalent of responding to a cop-involved shooting with “We’re waiting for all the facts.”

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dangerman  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:06:40pm

re: #58 freetoken

Trying to rationalize the irrational:

How Mike Pompeo Could Contain Trump’s Worst Instincts

he cant
next

no point in even reading this

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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:07:45pm

re: #59 Kragar

cautious backing

Sounds…less than all-in. Doesn’t really want to support May/oppose Putin, but has to appear willing if smoking gun like evidence emerges to confirm Russia orchestration but even then will still claim “anyone could have done it”.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:07:49pm

re: #34 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Jesus thundering fuck, a $35,000 dinner? What are they serving, diamond-encrusted filet mignon and caviar made from a coelacanth?

I suppose Geoduck would be the most appropriate….

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:08:17pm

Another day in America:

Officials: U.S. Airman shoots toddlers, their mother before killing himself

Authorities say a member of the U.S. Air Force in Washington state fatally shot his two young children and their mother before killing himself.

[…]

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electrotek  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:08:54pm

re: #70 freetoken

Another day in America:

Officials: U.S. Airman shoots toddlers, their mother before killing himself

Honor killing?

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:09:24pm

The interesting fact is that this thing comes up periodically, and is always found to be in accordance with Alabama law on feeding county prisoners.

Etowah sheriff pockets $750k in jail food funds, buys $740k beach house
al.com

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:12:37pm

re: #71 electrotek

Honor killing?

“Family Annihilator” is a thing.
healthland.time.com

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:12:43pm
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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:14:04pm

re: #59 Kragar

This just in: House Intelligence Committee has held hearings, issued report, concluding that in no way was Russia involved with assassination(s) of Kremlin enemies in the UK. Chairman Nunes also stated that “Our own CIA does bad stuff too once in a while.”

/

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:14:06pm

re: #41 calochortus

Wedge salad with blue cheese dressing.

“Rex, eat the salad.” Oops, Rex is now ex-Sec Rex.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:14:09pm

re: #74 JordanRules

Do they have calves like cantaloupes?

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:14:22pm
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MsJ  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:14:24pm

re: #58 freetoken

Trying to rationalize the irrational:

How Mike Pompeo Could Contain Trump’s Worst Instincts

Same old song and dance with every new revolving door entrant.

One comes in, another goes out. The press continually looking for their presidential pivot. Now from everyone who *might* save us from Trump. SSDD…right down to their televising an empty freaking podium.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:14:50pm

re: #70 freetoken

It wont qualify as a mass shooting. Not enough dead bodies.

There’s no definition for mass shooting that anyone seems to agree on. A July 2015 Congressional Research Service report attempted to define it as “… a multiple homicide incident in which four or more victims are murdered with firearms, within one event, and in one or more locations in close proximity.”

It wont get press beyond a few minutes. Not a big enough body count.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:15:09pm

re: #78 Kragar

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There’s this thing called a chain-link fence…

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dangerman  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:15:34pm

re: #72 Decatur Deb

The interesting fact is that this thing comes up periodically, and is always found to be in accordance with Alabama law on feeding county prisoners.

Etowah sheriff pockets $750k in jail food funds, buys $740k beach house
al.com

pig
and cruel that it’s not all spent on inmates

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calochortus  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:15:58pm

re: #77 Decatur Deb

Do they have calves like cantaloupes?

Of course they do. Have you seen what rock climbers calves look like? Seriously.

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:16:00pm
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calochortus  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:16:42pm

re: #80 lawhawk

It wont qualify as a mass shooting. Not enough dead bodies.

There’s no definition for mass shooting that anyone seems to agree on. A July 2015 Congressional Research Service report attempted to define it as “… a multiple homicide incident in which four or more victims are murdered with firearms, within one event, and in one or more locations in close proximity.”

It wont get press beyond a few minutes. Not a big enough body count.

Also, man kills “his” woman and children. Just barely a crime…
//

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:16:49pm

re: #77 Decatur Deb

Do they have calves like cantaloupes?

I think only my squad has those which we try to hide by kneeling during the anthem.

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:16:53pm

re: #78 Kragar

Thing about this visit is, other than the secret service who have to be there, and the contractors of the 6 samples, you have a token border agent to pose for photo for the pool photographer.

That’s all that happened. It was a photo op in which nobody else wanted to participate.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:17:52pm

So much for the suicide pact though, because Mnuchin and Mattis are too interested in remaining on the taxpayer dole to give up their power.

Meanwhile, we’ll get GOPers claiming that this isn’t chaos and that everything is okay in Trumpworld. Because they’re absolutely impervious to facts or logic.

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calochortus  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:19:16pm

re: #87 freetoken

Thing about this visit is, other than the secret service who have to be there, and the contractors of the 6 samples, you have a token border agent to pose for photo for the pool photographer.

That’s all that happened. It was a photo op in which nobody else wanted to participate.

The CA Dems are participating in the sense of “Trump is in SoCal to promote the Wall. Please send money to my campaign to fight him and the GOP.”

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:19:19pm

re: #82 dangerman

pig
and cruel that it’s not all spent on inmates

In past cases, sheriffs have formed cartels that bought up salvaged food and sold it to themselves for “their” prisoners. They are explicitly allowed to keep any food allocation surplus, though not all do.

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:23:04pm

re: #89 calochortus

The CA Dems are participating in the sense of “Trump is in SoCal to promote the Wall. Please send money to my campaign to fight him and the GOP.”

Well, yes, but by that standard then the LA Times, and all the other local news outlets are also participating because they are all generating stories with this visit.

But the point is, no one who doesn’t have to be there wants to be seen with Trump.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:23:12pm

re: #88 lawhawk

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Meanwhile, we’ll get GOPers claiming that this isn’t chaos and that everything is okay in Trumpworld. Because they’re absolutely impervious to facts or logic.

Brings to mind Donny’s insistence that he wasn’t going to fire Comey…right before doing so, then claiming that he’s been planning it for months.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:23:50pm
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Jay C  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:25:38pm

re: #31 Targetpractice

They can, but they’re gonna be drowned out by the screaming from Republicans if Saccone fails to win by double digits. And if the margin is less than 5%, you’ll swear that the Ragnarok just began in Washington D.C.

Naaah, disagree: if Saccone wins, even if by 10 votes, the triumphalist shrieking from starboard about how this utterly, totally and thoroughly vindicates Donald Trump and everyone associated with him will be universal, and blared out at Vol 11 by every media outlet in the country.

If Lamb wins, even if by a landslide, the most we can hope for from the GOP and its creatures is muttering, grumbling, and self-righteous whining about “fake” or “fixed” elections….

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:25:44pm

re: #80 lawhawk

I’ll go a step farther: we don’t talk about domestic murders the same we do other murders. There’s not really any culture that’s comfortable with the idea that family and parent and love are empty sets rather than solid concepts, and that some people will fill the position but possess none of the axiomatic characteristics. And when someone does, we set them out as rarified monsters.

There have been several mass shootings this year that were killings of an ex and her proximate friends/family, in a domicile. They don’t get the same kind of reaction, or “discussion.” They’re treated as though they’re an entirely different, understandable kind of crime.

Which I think is horseshit. If I have a basic profile of mass shooters, they’re all the same—narcissistically injured—and select different targets on the basis of their “excuse” for hurting people and thus feeling powerful and vindicated. And lots of folk start their spree with intimates, so there’s overlap.

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calochortus  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:26:07pm

re: #91 freetoken

Well, yes, but by that standard then the LA Times, and all the other local news outlets are also participating because they are all generating stories with this visit.

But the point is, no one who doesn’t have to be there wants to be seen with Trump.

Of course. I was being snarky.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:26:56pm

re: #93 lawhawk

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The Green Party is fishy af.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:27:08pm

re: #84 Kragar

Trump, during first CA trip as president, slams his hosts: “I think Governor Brown does a very poor job running California. They have the highest taxes in the United States. The place is totally out of control.”

— Peter Alexander

Remember when President Obama went to a state with a GOP governor and criticized that state’s governor and the state?

Actually I don’t.

Also, very telling, Dump thinks Brown, as governor, “runs” California. Governors aren’t dictators, in truth most of them have rather limited powers, which Trumpy as a “conservative” might realize, and states, like America itself, are republics, democracies, that are run by the people. I know Trump doesn’t much care for that, but there it is.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:28:13pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

The Green Party is fishy af.

I thought we all agreed not to mention the Green Party until it comes out of hibernation during each presidential election year to bitch about how terrible the Dems are?

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:29:20pm

re: #99 Sir John Barron

I thought we all agreed not to mention the Green Party until it comes out of hibernation during each presidential election year to bitch about how terrible the Dems are?

///

Seriously it amazes me how utterly useless they are. At least the foreign greens are respectable somewhat.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:29:27pm

re: #94 Jay C

Naaah, disagree: if Saccone wins, even if by 10 votes, the triumphalist shrieking from starboard about how this utterly, totally and thoroughly vindicates Donald Trump and everyone associated with him will be universal, and blared out at Vol 11 by every media outlet in the country.

If Lamb wins, even if by a landslide, the most we can hope for from the GOP and its creatures is muttering, grumbling, and self-righteous whining about “fake” or “fixed” elections….

Also, “Lamb is not really a Republican, Trump didn’t care about the race, didn’t hold a campaign event there that we televised, etc.”

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:29:45pm

re: #93 lawhawk

But, is he on the Russian payroll?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:31:27pm

re: #95 The Ghost of a Flea

We also use the construct “honor killings” to make other the natural consequence of a cultural system in which family, and particularly the father, owns its progeny…while ignoring that domestic violence and domestic murder come from exactly the same mentality.

There’s a whole set of cultural constructs that exist to No True Scotsman the cultural foundation of dudes killing wives and exes—“women are people” is an idea that’s new even by Enlightment standards, and still pushed against—in “civilized” countries, set in contrast to a “they don’t value their women” judgement (that has a racist basis) of undeveloped others.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:32:02pm

re: #94 Jay C

Naaah, disagree: if Saccone wins, even if by 10 votes, the triumphalist shrieking from starboard about how this utterly, totally and thoroughly vindicates Donald Trump and everyone associated with him will be universal, and blared out at Vol 11 by every media outlet in the country.

If Lamb wins, even if by a landslide, the most we can hope for from the GOP and its creatures is muttering, grumbling, and self-righteous whining about “fake” or “fixed” elections….

Republicans may say it in public, but even with elections they’ve won this year, the change in voting has scared them.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:32:33pm
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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:33:42pm

re: #104 Belafon

Republicans may say it in public, but even with elections they’ve won this year, the change in voting has scared them.

Yep they’ve had a lot of close calls in reliably Red districts.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:35:39pm

re: #98 Sir John Barron

Trump’s a goddamned liar who can’t help but lie about everything.

He thinks California is exporting crime and illegal aliens (it’s actually got a lower crime rate than Nevada, or Arizona or Texas or Alabama or Missouri or Tennessee or Alaska, etc.)

He can’t help but lie about everything, including the state’s fiscal situation, which is stable thanks to Democrats righting the ship.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:36:34pm
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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:37:04pm

re: #108 lawhawk

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Says a criminal.

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dangerman  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:37:17pm

re: #92 Targetpractice

Brings to mind Donny’s insistence that he wasn’t going to fire Comey…right before doing so, then claiming that he’s been planning it for months.

because no one can appear to anticipate what he’s thinking or going to do

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Jay C  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:37:51pm

re: #84 Kragar

Trump, during first CA trip as president, slams his hosts: “I think Governor Brown does a very poor job running California. They have the highest taxes in the United States. The place is totally out of control.”

— Peter Alexander

If I were Jerry Brown, i’d respond to this tweet with two of my own:

1. If Trump doesn’t like CA, don’t come here, we won’t miss you.
2. Regardless of DT’s opinion, 36 million Americans seem to like it enough to live here and make it the [xth]-largest economy in the world.

IOW, fuck off…..

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:38:53pm

re: #94 Jay C

Naaah, disagree: if Saccone wins, even if by 10 votes, the triumphalist shrieking from starboard about how this utterly, totally and thoroughly vindicates Donald Trump and everyone associated with him will be universal, and blared out at Vol 11 by every media outlet in the country.

If Lamb wins, even if by a landslide, the most we can hope for from the GOP and its creatures is muttering, grumbling, and self-righteous whining about “fake” or “fixed” elections….

The celebrations in the event of a narrow Saccone win will largely be limited to the wingnuts and the far-right press. The rest of the press is going to look at a close-shave win and game out what it means for the GOP in blue and purple districts/states. And a 20 point swing puts a hell of a lot of seats into jeopardy in November.

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calochortus  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:39:10pm

re: #107 lawhawk

Trump’s a goddamned liar who can’t help but lie about everything.

He thinks California is exporting crime and illegal aliens (it’s actually got a lower crime rate than Nevada, or Arizona or Texas or Alabama or Missouri or Tennessee or Alaska, etc.)

He can’t help but lie about everything, including the state’s fiscal situation, which is stable thanks to Democrats righting the ship.

Because we export our crime, our local rates stay low.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:39:21pm

re: #111 Jay C

re: #84 Kragar

If I were Jerry Brown, i’d respond to this tweet with two of my own:

1. If Trump doesn’t like CA, don’t come here, we won’t miss you.
2. Regardless of DT’s opinion, 36 million Americans seem to like it enough to live here and make it the [xth]-largest economy in the world.

IOW, fuck off…..

“Considering the state has 12% of the US population but generates 20% of the GDP, our tax rate is doing something right.”

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calochortus  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:40:54pm

BBL

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:42:02pm

Oops…quoted wrong post. This is an answer to Scottish Dragons #55.

I may be late, but I don’t think I saw an answer for you…so as one of the LGF art historians I must tell the tale.

It is just a small section of The Garden of Earthly Delights by Hieronymus Bosch from around 1500.

It is a very famous work of art because of the content and the religion/politics of it. People have been trying to figure out its meaning since that time…a real mind fucker. I think it is great just for that fact. 510+ years of messing with people’s heads. I think that would be the ultimate for an artist.

It is a three-panel triptych that can be closed like doors on an entryway. It even has a globe-like image on the closed panels.

Many different parts have been used for album covers.

Wiki - The Garden of Earthly Delights

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:51:52pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:51:58pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:52:29pm

re: #88 lawhawk

Laffy
@GottaLaff
Great point made on @NicolleDWallace show by NY Times reporter: Trump called it “fake news” when it was reported he’d fire Tillerson. Today he said it was coming for months. So much for “fake news.”

4:13 PM - Mar 13, 2018

Meanwhile, we’ll get GOPers claiming that this isn’t chaos and that everything is okay in Trumpworld. Because they’re absolutely impervious to facts or logic.

It has been said Trump was going to fire Tillerson for months. I wonder if he was just holding on to him to use his firing when needed.

What would that need be?

Who is really talking about Stormy Daniels today? Her lawyer is being ignored and the news media is onto the newest Trump WH mess.

Sometimes it really does seem Trump’s bus is packed with people for the exclusive use of tossing them under the rear wheels as needed.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:53:34pm

re: #118 Stanley Sea

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:54:26pm

re: #119 ObserverArt

It has been said Trump was going to fire Tillerson for months. I wonder if he was just holding on to him to use his firing when needed.

What would that need be?

Who is really talking about Stormy Daniels today? Her lawyer is being ignored and the news media is onto the newest Trump WH mess.

Sometimes it really does seem Trump’s bus is packed with people for the exclusive use of tossing them under the rear wheels as needed.

I don’t see how this helps him, though. The shake-up in his administration is far more important than Stormy. If I was betting on this being a distraction, it’s distracting from Russian assassinations.

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mmmirele  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:56:16pm

re: #111 Jay C

re: #84 Kragar

If I were Jerry Brown, i’d respond to this tweet with two of my own:

1. If Trump doesn’t like CA, don’t come here, we won’t miss you.
2. Regardless of DT’s opinion, 36 million Americans seem to like it enough to live here and make it the [xth]-largest economy in the world.

IOW, fuck off…..

39.25 million people like California enough to live there. /pedant

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:56:53pm
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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 1:57:39pm

re: #123 lawhawk

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KGxvi  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:00:12pm

Is it wrong that I hoped Trump would have accidentally stumbled across the border and then been denied entry because he didn’t have his passport?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:00:34pm
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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:01:40pm

re: #125 KGxvi

Is it wrong that I hoped Trump would have accidentally stumbled across the border and then been denied entry because he didn’t have his passport?

……No, I’m hoping he wakes up tomorrow as a Hispanic day laborer.

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A Mom Anon  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:01:53pm

re: #123 lawhawk

Gee, what a mystery and a surprise. Who could guess a violent and hateful jackass fucking NAZI would hit women? The only good Nazi is one you can punch in the face repeatedly for the rest of their natural lives.

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S'latch  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:01:53pm

Max Boot is feeling sorry for Rex Tillereson :(

Rexit -> Pompeo -> Korean War II?

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:02:31pm

re: #121 Belafon

I don’t see how this helps him, though. The shake-up in his administration is far more important than Stormy. If I was betting on this being a distraction, it’s distracting from Russian assassinations.

It’s Trump. He doesn’t think, he reacts. And he does it in ways he always used to do when he was a “great businessman.”

He loves to play the media, he thinks he can control the narratives about him to either increase or decrease attention surrounding him.

And I don’t think we should downplay Stormy’s story. It may also be one to add to bring him down. It may tell the tale of how Trump pays off bribes which can help that Russian investigation. It could show a pattern of Trump moves to get out of jams.

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:03:37pm

re: #122 mmmirele

39.25 million people like California enough to live there. /pedant

And most of us hate Trumps guts.

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A Mom Anon  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:03:44pm

re: #129 S’latch

Poor Rex, now all he’ll have to do all day is roll around on his pile of money. Boo. Fucking. Hoo.

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:05:37pm

re: #130 ObserverArt

And I don’t think we should downplay Stormy’s story. It may also be one to add to bring him down. It may tell the tale of how Trump pays off bribes which can help that Russian investigation. It could show a pattern of Trump moves to get out of jams.

And if Josh’s Marshall’s surmise is correct, it will reveal how super macho man Trump gets off on being humiliated by women.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:06:23pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:06:41pm

re: #123 lawhawk

Forms of total entitlement travel together.

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KGxvi  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:08:09pm

re: #111 Jay C

re: #84 Kragar

If I were Jerry Brown, i’d respond to this tweet with two of my own:

1. If Trump doesn’t like CA, don’t come here, we won’t miss you.
2. Regardless of DT’s opinion, 36 million Americans seem to like it enough to live here and make it the [xth]-largest economy in the world.

IOW, fuck off…..

Jerry Brown 2010 votes: 5.4m (voter turnout 45%); Jerry Brown 2014 votes: 4.38m (voter turnout 31%).

Donald Trump votes in California 2016: 4.48m (voter turnout 75%)

Two and a half times the turnout of 2014, and Trump only managed to get about 100k more votes than Brown did. SAD!

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:10:04pm
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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:11:22pm

re: #137 Ace-o-aces

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Get on my plane!

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gocart mozart  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:15:23pm
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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:17:49pm

re: #139 gocart mozart

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Even Richard Nixon had soul or so said Neil Young.

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:17:59pm

This guy…needs to go. My hate for him is reaching epic proportion.

NBC - Trump likens immigrants to ‘professional mountain climbers,’ bashes California during wall tour

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump offered harsh criticism of California officials and likened people who climb existing border barriers to get into the United States to “professional mountain climbers” Tuesday as he visited prototypes of his long-promised border wall during his first Golden State visit since taking office.

While touring a variety of wall options with aides and local law enforcement officials, Trump explained that he wanted a wall with “some see-through” capabilities, as well as tops that deter people from climbing over. “Getting over the top is easy,” Trump complained, likening people who climb over border barriers to “professional mountain climbers.”

…more at link…

Longer video of nitwit’s comments…right out of Stephen Miller’s dank head.

Iframe

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:18:31pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:22:28pm

re: #142 Ace-o-aces

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Right out of a mob playbook.

Trump is making foreign policy an organized racket.

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:27:20pm
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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:27:35pm

re: #142 Ace-o-aces

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I won’t feel bad for any Trumper who gets eminent domained on the stupid wall.

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KGxvi  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:28:09pm

re: #140 HappyWarrior

Even Richard Nixon had soul or so said Neil Young.

From what I’ve read on Nixon (growing up in Yorba Linda it’s kinda hard not to be at least slightly interested in him), 1960 broke him in a lot of ways. He became paranoid, convinced that the Kennedys (or somebody) were out to get him. That paranoia, more than anything, led to Watergate. He was going to win in a landslide, but that didn’t matter, because he had to be sure.

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gocart mozart  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:28:21pm

Has anybody had Russian bots follow them today? I had four which I blocked.

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:30:30pm

re: #147 gocart mozart

For the past couple of months I’ve had a steady stream of crypto-currency spammers following me on Twitter. I try to clear them out but more keep coming.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:31:10pm

I wonder if Miller will ever be shown the door or if he’ll stick with Trump until the bitter end.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:32:03pm

I’m declaring this day to be over.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:34:43pm
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KGxvi  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:35:08pm

re: #149 Eclectic Cyborg

I wonder if Miller will ever be shown the door or if he’ll stick with Trump until the bitter end.

Miller is the son Donnie never had… still inept, but also blatantly racist.

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KGxvi  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:35:49pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

I’m declaring this day to be over.

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Airplane! - Sniffing Glue

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:36:05pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

Someone might want to tell Trump that the US Air Force many years ago declared that “space” was going to managed by them. It must have been 20 years or more ago, when I’d see presentations on this.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:36:29pm

re: #146 KGxvi

From what I’ve read on Nixon (growing up in Yorba Linda it’s kinda hard not to be at least slightly interested in him), 1960 broke him in a lot of ways. He became paranoid, convinced that the Kennedys (or somebody) were out to get him. That paranoia, more than anything, led to Watergate. He was going to win in a landslide, but that didn’t matter, because he had to be sure.

He is interesting for sure.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:38:14pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

I’m declaring this day to be over.

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Prepping for the inevitable Plutonian invasion.

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KGxvi  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:38:52pm

re: #154 freetoken

Someone might want to tell Trump that the US Air Force many years ago declared that “space” was going to managed by them. It must have been 20 years or more ago, when I’d see presentations on this.

HOW CAN THE AIR FORCE BE IN CHARGE OF SPACE? THERE ISN’T EVEN ANY AIR THERE! THEIR PLANES WON’T WORK… JUST ANOTHER FAILURE FROM OBAMA AND ALL THE OTHER DUMB PRESIDENTS WHO AREN’T NEARLY AS SMART AS ME, BELIEVE ME

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:39:14pm

re: #151 Stanley Sea

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So who gets Energy?

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:40:11pm

If this constant shifting is running government like a business then I hope I never see this again.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:40:22pm

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KGxvi  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:40:37pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

So who gets Energy?

Jared’s not busy.

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KGxvi  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:41:52pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

If this constant shifting is running government like a business then I hope I never see this again.

It’s not how most businesses are run. But it is serving as an explanation as to why so many of his ventures failed so spectacularly.

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electrotek  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:42:14pm

Disgusting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:42:43pm

re: #35 JordanRules

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LOL…I thought he might be inspecting the new NK/SK wall prototypes…

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:44:52pm
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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:44:55pm

re: #162 KGxvi

It’s not how most businesses are run. But it is serving as an explanation as to why so many of his ventures failed so spectacularly.

Yep it’s how his are and that’s what his cult wanted.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:45:25pm

re: #36 calochortus

If details are “available upon RSVP” does that mean if I respond “no,” they’ll send me the details?

I like how Donald J. Trump has to be further identified as “President of the United States”…as if is still a person left in the country who is not painfully aware of that fact.

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:48:34pm

I’m kind of surprised no contractor offered a prototype wall with a flame of burning oil on top. It would be much more effective, and would increase the demand for petroleum products, so it kills two birds with one stone.

(In reality, it’d probably kill many birds.)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:49:34pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:50:57pm

I really fucking hate this President.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:51:51pm

re: #170 Eclectic Cyborg

I really fucking hate this President.

There’s like nothing likable about him at all. Not just policy wise but as a person.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:52:01pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:54:07pm

re: #160 goddamnedfrank

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:54:40pm

Since we now know that Trump will not blame Russia for the nerve agent attack in Great Britain, and that the GOP congress will do absolutely anything to shield him:

What are the odds that Putin stages a similar and very public assassination here in America? Manafort, Papadapolous or Flynn?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:55:26pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

I’m declaring this day to be over.

Already been generating an increase in the “Space Force” or “Space Corps” debate amongst defense media.
I’m kind of pulling for full on babble, like “United States Marine Corps Space Aviator Cavalry”

Space-Above and Beyond - Trailer

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:55:26pm

re: #172 goddamnedfrank

Well, Shulkin has gone off the deep end.

And Perry appears to be very servile, so Trump can do with him what he wants.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:56:19pm
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Kragar  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:56:23pm
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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:56:44pm

re: #175 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

We already have a defense agency, whose initials we are not suppose to know, who are the managers of space assets.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:57:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:58:08pm

re: #64 The Ghost of a Flea

It’s a detail from the right panel Hieronymous Bosch’s triptych “Garden of Earthly Delights.” It’s a bit unclear what his intent was with the whole painting, but the right panel is Hell, and all the stuff is allegorical representations of sins and the apt punishment.

Though I must confess that I have no idea how all the crazy detail (for example, bird-head has clay pots on its feet and a cauldron on its head) is “read.”

I’m still cogitating on the significance of the blackbirds flying out of the ass of the person being devoured headfirst by birdhead.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:58:20pm

re: #175 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Already been generating an increase in the “Space Force” or “Space Corps” debate amongst defense media.
I’m kind of pulling for full on babble, like “United States Marine Corps Space Aviator Cavalry”

[Embedded content]

Dammit. Nobody tell him about the Mobile Infantry.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:58:20pm

He just fires people and replaced them with people already in the administration because he’s too lazy to interview people.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:59:09pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:59:13pm

re: #183 HappyWarrior

He just fires people and replaced them with people already in the administration because he’s too lazy to interview people.

Also, he knows half the people he wants wouldn’t ever get confirmed or securit clearances anyway.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:59:36pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m still cogitating on the significance of the blackbirds flying out of the ass of the person being devoured headfirst by birdhead.

Me too.

The great thing about the advent of scanning is…it allows looking at detail I would have never seen even in a giant art-book print.

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2018 • 2:59:56pm
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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:00:03pm

re: #185 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, he knows half the people he wants wouldn’t ever get confirmed or securit clearances anyway.

Rudy *cough*

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dangerman  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:00:03pm

re: #24 dangerman

“jolly good about the squash court”

(from lawrence of arabia)

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:01:17pm

“Space Force”

Yup, that’s about the level of branding savvy I’d expect from a guy who lends his name to slaughterhouse-floor steaks.

Not a speck of zazz to be found.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:02:22pm

re: #186 The Ghost of a Flea

Me too.

The great thing about the advent of scanning is…it allows looking at detail I would have never seen even in a giant art-book print.

kinda gives a new insight to “four and 20 blackbirds, baked in a pie”…

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:02:52pm

Off to plot with our candidate to replace Roby in AL2.

audriscottwilliams.com

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:03:54pm

I mean, if you’re an egomaniac, there’s a whole niche for developing new terminology.

You’re not a space marine, you’re a astrotrump. Or a Maganaut.

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BeachDem  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:04:59pm

And another yam fuckwit is heard from.

“While my constituents are hearing about private jet rides and expensive doors, they want to understand why someone is proposing to raise park fees at this level,” Cantwell said. “We should be increasing access,” to national parks, she said.

Zinke told Cantwell he “resents” her “insults and innuendos,” telling the Senate committee, “I never took a private jet anywhere.”

(insert announcer voice)

The Interior Department’s Office of Inspector General is currently investigating “the secretary’s travel,” including “modes of transportation, costs and schedules.”

They. Lie. About. Everything.

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gocart mozart  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:05:44pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:08:12pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

I’m declaring this day to be over.

Not yet:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:08:15pm

re: #184 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:09:27pm

re: #194 BeachDem

And another yam fuckwit is heard from.

“While my constituents are hearing about private jet rides and expensive doors, they want to understand why someone is proposing to raise park fees at this level,” Cantwell said. “We should be increasing access,” to national parks, she said.

Zinke told Cantwell he “resents” her “insults and innuendos,” telling the Senate committee, “I never took a private jet anywhere.”

(insert announcer voice)

The Interior Department’s Office of Inspector General is currently investigating “the secretary’s travel,” including “modes of transportation, costs and schedules.”

They. Lie. About. Everything.

Grow up Snowflake Zinke.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:09:51pm

re: #194 BeachDem

I stand by my assessment that we are watching a conspiracy of narcissists, which is why there’s this mix of shamelessness, compulsive lying, and contempt of accountability.

And I’m not just talking about the cabinet. The whole reactionary coalition want Castle Silling of the Potomac, though they dress it up in moral drag.

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William Lewis  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:11:36pm

So, awhile back I wrote to Congressslime Sean Duffy of my district, telling him to tell the Army they should award Emmanuel Mensah the Soldier’s Medal for his efforts. He finally wrote back today whining about how that’s not Congress’ job and why do I think he doesn’t care about Vets. This is the response I sent a bit ago:

If you knew how to actually do your job, you would understand that while the Congress does not have any issuing authority over anything other than the MoH, you would know that adding the voice of your constituents to those speaking to the SecDef and SecArmy would be of value in seeing justice done. Fortunately despite the incompetence of the GOP and the Trump regime in general, the Army did the right thing and his parents laid him to rest with his awards along with him.

As for why I would think you don’t care about Veterans it is painfully obvious.

Why? You are:

1) a Republican. You and your party only care about vets when it is propaganda time and you’d far rather we all died rather than need assistance years or decades later.

2) You are an incompetent who could not manage to even do a bad job at MTV.

3) “I know you’re lying because your lips are moving.”.

I pray daily to the Lord that a blue wave hits via the upcoming midterm election and that you and all the other treason enabling slime are voted out of congress so that decent Americans can get on with the impeachment of both Trump and Pence as well as their imprisonment for life for their anti-American crimes. And then you can hopefully try to live, like those who are currently your constituents attempt to, on minimum wage, food stamps and Obamacare.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:12:15pm

re: #101 Sir John Barron

Also, “Lamb is not really a Republican, Trump didn’t care about the race, didn’t hold a campaign event there that we televised, etc.”

Heard a Republican on CNN explaining that Lamb ran on a GOP platform, so if he wins its actually an endorsement of Trump!

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:14:39pm

IT WAS THEIR OWN FUCKING MONEY!!!!
Cheeto Pendejo can’t understand the concept of other people having money that he can’t take away.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:15:39pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m still cogitating on the significance of the blackbirds flying out of the ass of the person being devoured headfirst by birdhead.

It might be an oblique reference to the particular sin. The term “murder of crows” goes back at least to the 15th century and crows were associated with judgement.

a murder of crows
-This more poetic term for a flock of crows can be traced back at least to the 15th century, when it was recorded as a murther of crowes. Murther is a variant of Middle English murthre ‘murder,’ though the th sound had begun to be replaced with a d around 1300 C.E. There are several theories as to how this particular term came about, but all of them have to do with the supposed behavior of crows. For instance, crows are scavengers and therefore often seen feeding on rotting bodies of various sorts. Survivors of wars have described how the battlefields were covered in black as crows (and ravens) came down to eat the dead. Another theory hearkens back to old folklore which told of groups of crows essentially holding court over members of their flock that had committed offenses. If they decide against the “defendant” crow, then the rest of the flock swoops down on it and kills it. There are legends outside of the Germanic culture that relate to crows being judges over people as well, and how their appearance is an omen of death.

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:15:56pm
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petesh  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:16:06pm

re: #116 ObserverArt

… It is just a small section of The Garden of Earthly Delights by Hieronymus Bosch from around 1500…

My partner and I went to Madrid last year, and saw it. It’s magnificent. Better than I expected, and I already placed it high (I know, high, right? Not necessarily) in my list of all-time greatest painting hits. The man was a genius.

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:16:18pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

So who gets Energy?

Jerry Falwell Jr.

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:16:25pm
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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:16:45pm

re: #201 Big Beautiful Door

Heard a Republican on CNN explaining that Lamb ran on a GOP platform, so if he wins its actually an endorsement of Trump!

And the guy who ran as Trump before Trump isn’t a rejection of Trump in a R + 18 district? Okay……

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Woods Witch  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:16:51pm

Thread on Trump’s narcissism

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:17:32pm

re: #206 Skip Intro

Jerry Falwell Jr.

Why not at this point? Though I really think we could see him why DeVos goes.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:18:02pm

re: #199 The Ghost of a Flea

I stand by my assessment that we are watching a conspiracy of narcissists, which is why there’s this mix of shamelessness, compulsive lying, and contempt of accountability.

And I’m not just talking about the cabinet. The whole reactionary coalition want Castle Silling of the Potomac, though they dress it up in moral drag.

It also explains the rank dysfunction. Narcissism and sycophancy are personality traits in near constant tension.

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:18:05pm

Does Trump realize we’re party to a treaty that outlaws weapons in space?

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Dave In Austin  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:18:07pm

Work with this!

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:18:26pm

re: #196 Anymouse 🌹

Rick Perry couldn’t name what the Energy Department actually does.

Now I challenge him to name an actual war if he’s to be in charge of the VA.

Usually VA chairs are either physicians with long service in the VA, or veterans who have long service as government administrators.

Perry is neither.

Grover Norquist must be loving this.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:19:12pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

So who gets Energy?

Sergey Kislyak.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:22:17pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

So who gets Energy?

Maybe nobody for awhile. Perry is a convenient move to replace the embattled VA chief because he’s already a confirmed Cabinet official so he doesn’t require a new Senate hearing and avoiding a hearing might be the real goal here.

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KGxvi  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:22:26pm

re: #202 The Vicious Babushka

IT WAS THEIR OWN FUCKING MONEY!!!!
Cheeto Pendejo can’t understand the concept of other people having money that he can’t take away.

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For Breach of Contract, you should be familiar with that, Donnie.

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:23:29pm

Two more cryptocurrency spammers blocked…

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:24:39pm

re: #211 goddamnedfrank

It also explains the rank dysfunction. Narcissism and sycophancy are personality traits in near constant tension.

That creepy combo of fawning until they see advantage.

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:25:44pm

re: #209 Woods Witch

Thread

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This seems like a fitting visual.

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KGxvi  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:25:49pm

re: #209 Woods Witch

There’s a bit in there that got me thinking… they mention lying as a tool in the caveman playbook. Got me wondering about the first person to tell a lie. Now I want to write a story better than The Invention of Lying.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:26:11pm

re: #145 HappyWarrior

I won’t feel bad for any Trumper who gets eminent domained on the stupid wall.

Especially the guy whose golf course would be destroyed.

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:26:55pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

So who gets Energy?

Other possibilities.

Joe Arpaio
Roy Moore
Customer Service Rep at Mar-a-Grifto
Starter at a Trump golf course
Somebody from Fox “News”

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:27:07pm

re: #150 goddamnedfrank

I’m declaring this day to be over.

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Tell me he didn’t really say that.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:27:55pm

re: #216 goddamnedfrank

Maybe nobody for awhile. Perry is a convenient move to replace the embattled VA chief because he’s already a confirmed Cabinet official so he doesn’t require a new Senate hearing and avoiding a hearing might be the real goal here.

I’m kind of wondering if somewhere in here some asshole is going to suggest no more confirmation hearings.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:28:42pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

So who gets Energy?

Saudis

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:28:46pm

re: #161 KGxvi

Jared’s not busy.

Energy controls our nukes, and Jared doesn’t have the necessary security clearance.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:29:08pm

re: #223 Skip Intro

Other possibilities.

Joe Arpaio
Roy Moore
Customer Service Rep at Mar-a-Grifto
Starter at a Trump golf course
Somebody from Fox “News”

Because Trump basically shuffles people around instead of bringing in new people. Once they get really close, they’ll inevitably get canned, with the timing depending on how thoroughly they kiss his ass. And the call will go out… “NEXT!!”

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:29:16pm

Proof that:

1) Trump really does get his talking points from F&F;
2) We really are in the Idiocracy now:

White House replaces top State Department aide with former ‘Fox and Friends’ co-host

[…]

The White House then confirmed State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert as acting under secretary for public diplomacy, with a White House official telling Axios, “Heather is the only one at State we trust.”

Nauert joined the State Department in April 2017 and has no previous diplomatic experience. When asked in February about the specifics of what the State Department was doing to end the violence in Syria, she responded, “I don’t know what some of you expect us to do.”

Prior to her job at State, Nauert was an anchor at Fox and Friends for five years, and previously worked at the New York Fox affiliate Fox 5 for most of her career.

[…]

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KGxvi  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:30:42pm

re: #223 Skip Intro

Other possibilities.

Joe Arpaio
Roy Moore
Customer Service Rep at Mar-a-Grifto
Starter at a Trump golf course
Somebody from Fox “News”

Arpaio is busy losing the Republican primary for Senate in Arizona. Moore isn’t getting confirmed for anything, and may or may not be in Japan investigating used panty vending machines.

The rest, why the hell not, it’s not like the job involves dealing with nuclear weapons or anything important.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:31:45pm
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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:32:30pm

re: #230 KGxvi

Moore isn’t getting confirmed for anything, and may or may not be in Japan investigating used panty vending machines.

Just to make it clear to people who may not be aware of the social phenomenon, I’ll insert dashes to clarify: used-panty vending-machines .

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KGxvi  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:32:36pm

re: #225 The Ghost of a Flea

I’m kind of wondering if somewhere in here some asshole is going to suggest no more confirmation hearings.

Not until the impeachment proceedings start.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:32:57pm

Based on Twitter accounts, the person I’d most likely enjoy having a sandwich and beverage with is John Harwood. Subtle and funny.

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William Lewis  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:33:04pm

re: #231 Blind Frog Belly White

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Hey, that would be good! Trump wouldn’t be a citizen!
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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:33:13pm

re: #205 petesh

My partner and I went to Madrid last year, and saw it. It’s magnificent. Better than I expected, and I already placed it high (I know, high, right? Not necessarily) in my list of all-time greatest painting hits. The man was a genius.

Wow. That is great. I’m glad you got to see it…you are the first I’ve ever heard about.

I always like to watch people’s reaction to it. Like I said above…it’s messed with people since 1500. I can hear Bosch laughing still.

It sure made the world aware that an artist’s range of imagery no longer had to be stuck in the real world. I think that is another huge marker in the art world.

It’d be like he brought jazz to classical music in the same time period.

Some would have looked down on it, some would have strained to interpret and most generally would have wondered WTF?

Meanwhile others in the art world would have been looking how they could go with it and enter it into their works. Minds expanded.

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:33:15pm

re: #230 KGxvi

I disagree about Moore. This Republican Senate will approve anybody as long as he’s a Republican.

Anybody. For any job. No questions asked.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:33:33pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m still cogitating on the significance of the blackbirds flying out of the ass of the person being devoured headfirst by birdhead.

That was the best part.

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:33:53pm

Eww

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:34:09pm

re: #228 Blind Frog Belly White

Because Trump basically shuffles people around instead of bringing in new people. Once they get really close, they’ll inevitably get canned, with the timing depending on how thoroughly they kiss his ass. And the call will go out… “NEXT!!”

My guess is that there’s an impenetrable to logic evaluation going on of:

- anger at feeling contradicted
- fear at feeling challenged
- insecure if feeling shown up or down-power
- discarding people to avoid accepting blame or derivative responsibility
- aestheticism in which people are accessories that add or diminish value

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:35:56pm

re: #239 JordanRules

Haspel is a delight to work with.

- Gorthox, Viscount of the 7th Circle of Hell, with a 1000 devils beneath him and command of the secrets of alchemy, finance, and umami

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:37:20pm

Sorry I stepped away - what fresh hell awaits now that I have returned?

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William Lewis  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:37:47pm

re: #236 ObserverArt

Wow. That is great. I’m glad you got to see it…you are the first I’ve ever heard about.

I always like to watch people’s reaction to it. Like I said above…it’s messed with people since 1500. I can hear Bosch laughing still.

It sure made the world aware that an artist’s range of imagery no longer had to be stuck in the real world. I think that is another huge marker in the art world.

It’d be like he brought jazz to classical music in the same time period.

Some would have looked down on it, some would have strained to interpret and most generally would have wondered WTF?

Meanwhile others in the art world would have been looking how they could go with it and enter it into their works. Minds expanded.

I’ve always wondered if he didn’t get some ergot fungus in his rye bread, honestly.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:38:47pm

re: #212 freetoken

Does Trump realize we’re party to a treaty that outlaws weapons in space?

You have to ask? Of course he doesn’t.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:39:22pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:40:01pm

re: #244 Big Beautiful Door

You have to ask? Of course he doesn’t.

And even if he did, he’d blame Obama and unilaterally back us out of it. STAR WARS! SDI! SAINT RONALDUS MAGNUS!

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:40:02pm

re: #239 JordanRules

Eww

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The batshit-crazy signal went out, apparently.

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Mike Lamb  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:40:47pm

re: #239 JordanRules

Eww

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Well, I’m sold…

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A Mom Anon  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:40:47pm

re: #239 JordanRules
Welp. That settles it then, the sociopaths all agree. Perfect. No more questions needed then.

I know it’s not possible, but every single one of these motherfuckers make the case for capping the wealth one person or family can accumulate. The money is the payoff and reinforcement they get for being evil and cruel. I’m not even proposing a stingy amount. But with money to insulate them, nothing can change for the better.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:44:25pm

re: #243 William Lewis

I’ve always wondered if he didn’t get some ergot fungus in his rye bread, honestly.

If you look at Bruegel the Elder, there’s some stuff in common. I don’t know Early Netherlandish painting as a style enough to confidently say anything, but there’s a bunch of iconographic and composition choices that rhyme.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:45:36pm

Conservative meme-makers still showing they don’t understand how politics works. Anarchists are right wingers and fascists are left wingers on this chart.

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KGxvi  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:47:36pm

I still find this bit interesting from the Arizona Senate race, through the end of 2017, Kyrsten Sinema (the presumptive Democratic nominee) has raised over six million dollars and has five million cash on hand. Kelli Ward (R-Crazytown) has only raised $1.5m and only has $350k on hand. Arpaio (R is for racist) and McSally haven’t reported any money raised or spent.

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:48:39pm

re: #243 William Lewis

I’ve always wondered if he didn’t get some ergot fungus in his rye bread, honestly.

I think that is too easy an explanation. The reason I say it is because I had a vivid and wild imagination as a kid and I became an artist. There were no drugs involved.

I think there are characteristics in people that are part of their makeup. Some might try to call it madness…maybe it is brain chemistry or simply interpreting dreams better than others.

Drugs may help others get there, but some people are there naturally. It is just vision. It is what makes the art and artists looked at sideways many times.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:49:02pm

re: #234 Barefoot Grin

Based on Twitter accounts, the person I’d most likely enjoy having a sandwich and beverage with is John Harwood. Subtle and funny.

I’d like it with either Mr. Johnson here, or Rebecca Shoenkopf of Wonkette. (The Wonkmobile is on its way to the March for our Lives in Washington. They say they may stop in Denver on their way back, in which I may get my wish).

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:50:16pm

re: #251 Anymouse 🌹

Conservative meme-makers still showing they don’t understand how politics works. Anarchists are right wingers and fascists are left wingers on this chart.

Oops I left out the chart.

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petesh  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:51:32pm

re: #236 ObserverArt

… It’d be like he brought jazz to classical music in the same time period.

Some would have looked down on it, some would have strained to interpret and most generally would have wondered WTF?

Meanwhile others in the art world would have been looking how they could go with it and enter it into their works. Minds expanded.

YES!

We got a Groupon for one week Madrid/Barcelona — not enough time but a deal; it was January — and there is SO much to see, as well as eat, etc. The other biggest mind-blower for me was young Picasso. Guernica is in Madrid but Museu Picasso is in Barcelona, and you should see what the kid was doing at 8 years old! Being a slow learner, he didn’t really get hot until he was 14 …
pablo-ruiz-picasso.net

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:51:38pm
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William Lewis  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:53:40pm

re: #250 The Ghost of a Flea

If you look at Bruegel the Elder, there’s some stuff in common. I don’t know Early Netherlandish painting as a style enough to confidently say anything, but there’s a bunch of iconographic and composition choices that rhyme.

I get what you’re saying. I’ll stick to the somewhat later Dutch bourgeoisie painters like Vermeer instead :) especially the less well known (such as there are with him) ones.

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electrotek  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:54:12pm

Facebook Post

Check the comments lol pure gold

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:57:24pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 13, 2018 • 3:59:18pm

re: #260 Scottish Dragon

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IIRC, wasn’t there some leak or documentary a while ago that revealed that Bush’s “enhanced interrogations” actually wound up producing zero actionable evidence and probably didn’t save any lives at all?

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:00:20pm

re: #261 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

IIRC, wasn’t there some leak or documentary a while ago that revealed that Bush’s “enhanced interrogations” actually wound up producing zero actionable evidence and probably didn’t save any lives at all?

Yes. Lots of DOD and legal folks in JAG etc also said it didn’t work.

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:02:04pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:02:29pm

re: #257 Scottish Dragon

Something something we are part of a worldwide treaty which prohibits weapons in space.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:04:36pm

re: #264 Anymouse 🌹

Something something we are part of a worldwide treaty which prohibits weapons in space.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:05:07pm

re: #258 William Lewis

Dutch Renaissance hipster.

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Bass Reeves  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:05:31pm

re: #261 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Those were actually the findings of the Senate investigation into the CIA torture program.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:07:45pm

re: #220 MsJ

This seems like a fitting visual.

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They just showed that cartoon on CNN & Gloria Borger said her comment was the knife could just as easily been in the front, not the back.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:08:20pm

re: #260 Scottish Dragon

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You can’t shame the shameless.

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Bass Reeves  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:08:29pm

OT as I search for more ways to avoid paying attention to this BS, anybody interested in the Battle for Azeroth? My account got hacked, then banned, a few years ago, and I got it restored today. Thinking about trying it out, but I haven’t played since WotLK.

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:08:43pm

re: #259 electrotek

There goes the next hour of so my evening. Thanks!

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Mattand  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:08:44pm

Quick question/possible hot take on the PA 18 special election: is it just me, or is Conor Lamb basically a Blue Dog Dem who will fuck over the party once he gets? in I’m looking at his website, and there’s enough stuff that sorta sounds right. The whole anti-Pelosi shit, waffling on guns (which for me is not supporting an assault rifle ban) and “Yeah, I guess we haveta keep abortion legal” makes me nervous.

I went through this before in 2010 before our town got gerrymandered out of our Congressional district. The guy elected was the first Democrat in the district in 100 years, and then went all weak kneed on the ACA. He lost re-election and than we got booted for helping him win in the first place.

I’m trying not to be cynical/”enemy of good is perfect” here, but man, I have my doubts.

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:09:23pm

re: #265 Scottish Dragon

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I nearly completely forgot Llamas with Hats.

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:09:31pm

A Controversial Record of Torture, But Maybe Not a Deal-Breaker for Democrats

I wonder what it will take for elected officials and the DC talking-heads to stop treating Trump like he is serious or capable of any moderation in the long run.

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William Lewis  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:09:58pm

re: #266 The Ghost of a Flea

Dutch Renaissance hipster.

Hey, the public needed a better way to spend those Guilders than on tulip bulbs!

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Woods Witch  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:10:38pm

re: #259 electrotek

OMG! The comments! I’d like to believe that they are sarcasm, but I fear, most are not

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:10:48pm

re: #263 JordanRules

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If the cinnamon bun smell being pumped out into the mall doesn’t get you, the Mrs. Fields’ cookie smell being pumped out into the mall will.

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:11:15pm

re: #272 Mattand

The reality is his district has enough of Christian conservative types that a 21st century progressive would probably never find traction.

So yes, from what I’ve read of other people’s opinions, Lamb does strike one as a “Blue Dog”.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:11:19pm

re: #270 Bass Reeves

OT as I search for more ways to avoid paying attention to this BS, anybody interested in the Battle for Azeroth? My account got hacked, then banned, a few years ago, and I got it restored today. Thinking about trying it out, but I haven’t played since WotLK.

Mrs. Fish and I both played for a long time. We finally hung up our gear in the middle of Legion. We’ll probably get the expac, try it, but I don’t know how long we’ll stick around. I haven’t even read much about it.

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Mattand  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:11:57pm

re: #274 freetoken

A Controversial Record of Torture, But Maybe Not a Deal-Breaker for Democrats

I wonder what it will take for elected officials and the DC talking-heads to stop treating Trump like he is serious or capable of any moderation in the long run.

Not going to happen. Their idiot constituents at home will get impatient with the delay in her nomination because “So what if tortured a few brown people? Can’t you people in Washington get anything done????”

They’ll get nervous about re-election and boom: the US now has a spy agency that will expand its torture program.

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William Lewis  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:12:25pm

re: #272 Mattand

I’m trying not to be cynical/”enemy of good is perfect” here, but man, I have my doubts.

If as he’s at least as good as Joe Manchin, I’ll be happy.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:12:48pm

re: #272 Mattand

Quick question/possible hot take on the PA 18 special election: is it just me, or is Conor Lamb basically a Blue Dog Dem who will fuck over the party once he gets? in I’m looking at his website, and there’s enough stuff that sorta sounds right. The whole anti-Pelosi shit, waffling on guns (which for me is not supporting an assault rifle ban) and “Yeah, I guess we haveta keep abortion legal” makes me nervous.

I went through this before in 2010 before our town got gerrymandered out of our Congressional district. The guy elected was the first Democrat in the district in 100 years, and then went all weak kneed on the ACA. He lost re-election and than we got booted for helping him win in the first place.

I’m trying not to be cynical/”enemy of good is perfect” here, but man, I have my doubts.

Design for me the liberal Democrat who can get elected in a Trump +20 district the Dems haven’t won in 10 cycles.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:13:35pm

re: #281 William Lewis

If as he’s at least as good as Joe Manchin, I’ll be happy.

Especially since this district is bordering West Virginia.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:14:53pm

re: #272 Mattand

Quick question/possible hot take on the PA 18 special election: is it just me, or is Conor Lamb basically a Blue Dog Dem who will fuck over the party once he gets? in I’m looking at his website, and there’s enough stuff that sorta sounds right. The whole anti-Pelosi shit, waffling on guns (which for me is not supporting an assault rifle ban) and “Yeah, I guess we haveta keep abortion legal” makes me nervous.

I went through this before in 2010 before our town got gerrymandered out of our Congressional district. The guy elected was the first Democrat in the district in 100 years, and then went all weak kneed on the ACA. He lost re-election and than we got booted for helping him win in the first place.

I’m trying not to be cynical/”enemy of good is perfect” here, but man, I have my doubts.

I am sure he will disappoint on some things but it is still a huge net positive.

The whole state got redrawn, will that seat even be around come November? What will it look like and who is running?

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Mattand  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:15:31pm

re: #278 freetoken

The reality is his district has enough of Christian conservative types that a 21st century progressive would probably never find traction.

So yes, from what I’ve read of other people’s opinions, Lamb does strike one as a “Blue Dog”.

That’s why I got so pissed off about that idiot CNBC interviewed about how even though he hated Obama, he misses Obama now he’s seen Trump in action.

Four fucking decades of Trump being the walking definition of an amoral hedonistic monster in the public eye, and fucking idiots like Mr. Most Likely Christian Salt-of-the-Earth still voted for this psycho.

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Mattand  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:17:01pm

re: #282 Blind Frog Belly White

Design for me the liberal Democrat who can get elected in a Trump +20 district the Dems haven’t won in 10 cycles.

I know, I know, I know. I just feel like this guy is going to be the tiny leak in the hull that takes out the ship right as it leave the dock.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:17:01pm

re: #285 Mattand

That’s why I got so pissed off about that idiot CNBC interviewed about how even though he hated Obama, he misses Obama now he’s seen Trump in action.

Four fucking decades of Trump being the walking definition of an amoral hedonistic monster in the public eye, and fucking idiots like Mr. Most Likely Christian Salt-of-the-Earth still voted for this psycho.

He pushes the right buttons, and he does it openly. And he disdains actual knowledge.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:19:24pm

re: #278 freetoken

The reality is his district has enough of Christian conservative types that a 21st century progressive would probably never find traction.

So yes, from what I’ve read of other people’s opinions, Lamb does strike one as a “Blue Dog”.

And recall his Republican opponent said in one of his last rallies that Connor Lamb is a member of the party that “hates God.”

A blue dog Democrat would be better than just about any GOPer.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:20:25pm

re: #285 Mattand

That’s why I got so pissed off about that idiot CNBC interviewed about how even though he hated Obama, he misses Obama now he’s seen Trump in action.

Four fucking decades of Trump being the walking definition of an amoral hedonistic monster in the public eye, and fucking idiots like Mr. Most Likely Christian Salt-of-the-Earth still voted for this psycho.

I didn’t know diddly about Trump until the campaign (other than he’d run before).

Just because Trump was famous (or infamous) for his media appearances doesn’t mean everyone heard about them.

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:20:48pm

Let’s pretend I live in suburban western PA, and want to run for Congress. Some programmed dolt asks me what my “values” are… and I respond:

Exploitation of the poor by the rich and powerful is our primary social problem. And why do the masses of the poor let this happen? Because they are manipulated by those who are experts at exploiting religious impulses, your fear of death, occupying your time in mindless repetition of words wrongly attributed to a largely mythical god. We must be set free of all these millstones of antiquity.

Just how many votes do you think I’d get?

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:21:38pm

re: #285 Mattand

That’s why I got so pissed off about that idiot CNBC interviewed about how even though he hated Obama, he misses Obama now he’s seen Trump in action.

Four fucking decades of Trump being the walking definition of an amoral hedonistic monster in the public eye, and fucking idiots like Mr. Most Likely Christian Salt-of-the-Earth still voted for this psycho.

They wanted to be lied to. They didn’t want to hear that there are no easy answers. They didn’t want to know that Trump was awful and that Clinton wasn’t evil. They bought the lie and all too many of them still do. Getting Faux indoctrinated and fed nonstop agitprop doesn’t help the situation.

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petesh  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:22:37pm

re: #286 Mattand

I know, I know, I know. I just feel like this guy is going to be the tiny leak in the hull that takes out the ship right as it leave the dock.

If we have to rely on a one-vote margin in the House, then we probably won’t be able to get major, filibuster-proof legislation passed. OTOH we might be able to pass impeachment — and even if the Senate wouldn’t convict (and some Rs might actually go with it if their is enough hard evidence), it would still be a powerful statement. So if Lamb or anyone else is the best possible candidate in the best of all possible worlds, let’s accept that. Manchin held the line on ACA, for example, though he wouldn’t on guns.

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William Lewis  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:23:56pm

re: #290 freetoken

Let’s pretend I live in suburban western PA, and want to run for Congress. Some programmed dolt asks me what my “values” are… and I respond:

Exploitation of the poor by the rich and powerful is our primary social problem. And why do the masses of the poor let this happen? Because they are manipulated by those who are experts at exploiting religious impulses, your fear of death, occupying your time in mindless repetition of words wrongly attributed to a largely mythical god. We must be set free of all these millstones of antiquity.

Just how many votes do you think I’d get?

I’d rather paraphrase Blake and tell them “”I will not cease from mental fight, nor shall my sword sleep in my hand, till we have built Jerusalem, in America’s green and pleasant land.”

Then give them Scandinavian social welfare while their backs are turned… :D

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stpaulbear  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:25:04pm

re: #46 Scottish Dragon

Gina Haspel ran a black site in Thailand and oversaw the serial waterboarding and prolonged physical assaults on one detainee who turned out to be the wrong person (he also lost one eye during the process and apparently drowned and had to be medically revived during one waterboarding session).

She then had ALL of the interrogation tapes shredded.

She should be in front of The Hague answering questions, and it sickens me to see pundits on TV excusing her and saying “Well, if you want to exclude candidates who were involved in harsh interrogation then you would have to exclude an entire generation of CIA officers!”

That is a fucking start.

Jennifer Rubin makes a point of saying what a good choice she is to head the CIA. Rubin is still a certified neo-con despite her Trump hatred.

The good news is that Haspel, a 30-year veteran of the CIA, not uber-partisan Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), will replace Pompeo. She drew rave reviews from former acting CIA director John McLaughlin, who told me she is a “consummate professional” and “well-respected throughout the Agency.” The protection of the CIA’s independence and integrity is essential under any administration, but no more so under Trump, given his aversion to truth-telling and his habit of contradicting the intelligence community.

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:25:06pm
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Mattand  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:25:07pm

re: #290 freetoken

Let’s pretend I live in suburban western PA, and want to run for Congress. Some programmed dolt asks me what my “values” are… and I respond:

Exploitation of the poor by the rich and powerful is our primary social problem. And why do the masses of the poor let this happen? Because they are manipulated by those who are experts at exploiting religious impulses, your fear of death, occupying your time in mindless repetition of words wrongly attributed to a largely mythical god. We must be set free of all these millstones of antiquity.

Just how many votes do you think I’d get?

None.

However, I can see Lamb voting to criminalize abortion and arming school teachers. Without fucking hesitation.

I get that PA 18 probably isn’t exactly happy about things like the Civil Rights Act and people who don’t treat guns as holy venerated objects. The guy has spent so much time telling everyone he’s just as conservative as Sacconne, I’m skeptical he’ll have the party’s back.

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garzooma  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:26:34pm

re: #292 petesh

OTOH we might be able to pass impeachment — and even if the Senate wouldn’t convict (and some Rs might actually go with it if their is enough hard evidence), it would still be a powerful statement.

More importantly, traitors wouldn’t be in control of the committees to abet Russian crimes and harass FBI officials trying to stop them.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:27:00pm

re: #295 JordanRules

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His life expectancy is much shorter if he cuts a deals with Mueller.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:27:02pm

re: #291 lawhawk

They’re having fun.

While there’s some genuine fear, the proof is in the way they don’t address that fear in ways that resolve it…they just stoke it and stoke it.

The fear means that the shittiness of the world comes from outside things that can be hated and villified.

Which is the undercurrent of not just the “can’t be wrong” premise, but their entire system of making excuses for immoral acts by people who are of the in-group.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:27:04pm
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Mattand  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:27:29pm

re: #289 Anymouse 🌹

I didn’t know diddly about Trump until the campaign (other than he’d run before).

Just because Trump was famous (or infamous) for his media appearances doesn’t mean everyone heard about them.

Yeah, but it’s fucking 2015 when Trump throws in. Most of his voters are walking around with goddamn Star Trek communicators connected to the internet in their pockets. There’s no excuse for “Gee I had no idea he was such a dirt bag.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:28:07pm

re: #297 garzooma

More importantly, traitors wouldn’t be in control of the committees to abet Russian crimes and harass FBI officials trying to stop them.

Mrs. Fish was actually just asking me how Trump is still president, based on the upthread statement about Manafort’s possible 305 years in prison (if convicted on all counts). I told her that there’s no provision in the Constitution for, “A foreign government just meddled with the election, the penalty is X.” I imagine that will have to be rectified by legislation at some point.

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thecommodore  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:28:24pm

This is what desperation looks like.

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Renaissance_Man  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:28:45pm

re: #290 freetoken

Let’s pretend I live in suburban western PA, and want to run for Congress. Some programmed dolt asks me what my “values” are… and I respond:

Exploitation of the poor by the rich and powerful is our primary social problem. And why do the masses of the poor let this happen? Because they are manipulated by those who are experts at exploiting religious impulses, your fear of death, occupying your time in mindless repetition of words wrongly attributed to a largely mythical god. We must be set free of all these millstones of antiquity.

Just how many votes do you think I’d get?

There are factors more important than what you actually say, though. For instance, are you white and the other guy black? Are you a man and the other candidate a woman? And, most importantly, are you Republican and the other guy not?

This is not snark. These people are cultists. If you stood up there and said ‘there is no god’, but the right media folks and the right preacher types declared you to be the chosen one to the cult, you would be guaranteed their votes.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:29:01pm
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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:30:00pm

re: #296 Mattand

I get that PA 18 probably isn’t exactly happy about things like the Civil Rights Act and people who don’t treat guns as holy venerated objects. The guy has spent so much time telling everyone he’s just as conservative as Sacconne, I’m skeptical he’ll have the party’s back.

The Civil Rights act and such stuff is probably not that big a deal in that area.

But, God and Guns, (or Guns and God, probably), surely play a part of what goes on there.

And jobs, mostly, fear of not being employable.

Now the latter is addressable with sound policies.

But in the Drumpfepoche, America doesn’t seem so into policy.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:30:05pm

Aaannnndd finally. Caught up on the thread. Been behind for a couple of weeks.

Had a busy couple of weeks with my new job.

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Tomorrow at 10 is of course the time at which students across the nation will walk out of school for 17 minutes. Our school is going to be involved in a bit different way.

The Dean of Students, and the members of Student Government have worked out a plan that the entire school walk out of their classes at 10AM tomorrow. We will meet in the Gymnasium and have a 17 minute prayer service(Catholic School Here) in solidarity with students nationwide.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:31:45pm

re: #304 Renaissance_Man

I describe to my friends as ‘The Chart.”

As in, where you are on The Chart determines how culpable you are. The hierarchy is built into the morality. Like a caste system.

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:35:54pm

re: #259 electrotek

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Check the comments lol pure gold

I find the comments depressing. There are far too many stupid, angry and gullible people. THAT is why we have trump. People are fucking dumb.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:39:48pm

Destruction of State Department continues unabated:

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:40:39pm

re: #224 Big Beautiful Door

Tell me he didn’t really say that.

“Oh it’s happening sweetheart” from State Farm commercial

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:44:00pm

re: #311 Barefoot Grin

I think it should be entertained that Trump can and will pick people for any position simply because they’re on TV and he likes them. Up to and including finding them attractive.

It’s that shallow.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:46:15pm

re: #313 The Ghost of a Flea

I think it should be entertained that Trump can and will pick people for any position simply because they’re on TV and he likes them. Up to and including finding them attractive.

It’s that shallow.

Yep. Hell, he got the job of President didn’t he?

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:46:32pm

re: #290 freetoken

You’d get mine.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:47:01pm

re: #307 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

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Renaissance_Man  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:48:33pm

re: #313 The Ghost of a Flea

I think it should be entertained that Trump can and will pick people for any position simply because they’re on TV and he likes them. Up to and including finding them attractive.

It’s that shallow.

More than entertained - it’s obviously true.

You cannot overstate the shallowness or malice of all things Trump.

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petesh  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:50:30pm

re: #297 garzooma

More importantly, traitors wouldn’t be in control of the committees to abet Russian crimes and harass FBI officials trying to stop them.

Yes, absolutely! We will get some oversight. Think mid-70s Church Committee; he was Senate, but you get the picture.

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weave  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:53:19pm

re: #282 Blind Frog Belly White

Design for me the liberal Democrat who can get elected in a Trump +20 district the Dems haven’t won in 10 cycles.

If you really want a 50 state strategy or to win in red areas, you have to knock off the purity tests and accept that in these areas, representatives should represent the voters in their district.

Believe it or not, there are a lot of liberals who also love their guns and cherish their right to own them. Many of them will vote on that one issue because that’s a big deal for them. But other than the guns, they care about and support all other Democratic positions.

Be in this to win.

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petesh  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:55:07pm

re: #307 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

re: #307 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

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petesh  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:55:49pm

Now everyone knows I’m a doofus. Oh well.

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:56:54pm

re: #306 freetoken

The Civil Rights act and such stuff is probably not that big a deal in that area.

But, God and Guns, (or Guns and God, probably), surely play a part of what goes on there.

And jobs, mostly, fear of not being employable.

Now the latter is addressable with sound policies.

But in the Drumpfepoche, America doesn’t seem so into policy.

Since Civil Rights Act and such just means race, it matters to them. It’s how the suburbs were built and maintained. That they may not even need to think about “race” issues for their local races just underscores how their demographics have remained very white and how gerrymandering districts to benefit the GOP relies on this lack of diversity for over representation.

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:01:38pm

re: #307 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Aaannnndd finally. Caught up on the thread. Been behind for a couple of weeks.

Had a busy couple of weeks with my new job.

[Embedded content]

Tomorrow at 10 is of course the time at which students across the nation will walk out of school for 17 minutes. Our school is going to be involved in a bit different way.

The Dean of Students, and the members of Student Government have worked out a plan that the entire school walk out of their classes at 10AM tomorrow. We will meet in the Gymnasium and have a 17 minute prayer service(Catholic School Here) in solidarity with students nationwide.

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BeachDem  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:10:02pm

re: #313 The Ghost of a Flea

I think it should be entertained that Trump can and will pick people for any position simply because they’re on TV and he likes them. Up to and including finding them attractive.

It’s that shallow.

The Spokesmodel Presidency. From Hope to Heather.
Who will the yam elevate next?

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piratedan  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:15:20pm

re: #252 KGxvi

the dark money will find its way to McSally, she’s a GOP congresscritter and apparently was one of the first to “rally the troops” around the GOP legislative debacles in the Fall. I fully expect that she’ll be funded from all kinds of anonymous sources and new PAC’s laundering fresh cash from “somewhere”.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:20:07pm

re: #187 Kragar

The Starfighters (1964) starring none other than future whackdoodle Congressman Bob Dornan (for real). It is even goofier than this clip makes it look. It was featured on MST3000k and is one of Paste Magazine’s “10 Most Unwatchable Films.”


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Dave Grohl - Play (Official Video) PLAY more at play.roswellfilms.com Pre-order limited edition vinyl bundles and stream the song: smarturl.it “PLAY” by Dave Grohl celebrates the rewards and challenges of dedicating one’s life to playing and mastering a musical instrument. Part one opens with narrated ...
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The Seshen - Distant Heart (Live on KEXP) kexp.org presents The Seshen performing "Distant Heart" live at The Little London Plane during Upstream Music Fest. Recorded June 1, 2018. Host: Kevin ColeAudio Engineer: Kevin SuggsCameras: Jim Beckmann, Alaia D'Alessandro & Justin WilmoreDirector: Scott HolpainenEditor: Alaia D'Alessandro kexp.orgtheseshen.comupstreammusicfest.com ...
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Retrograde PresidentProfit at any cost. American dream. President Trump. Blind destruction. BBC News: The Trump administration has overturned bans on the use of pesticides linked to declining bee populations and the cultivation of genetically modified crops in US national wildlife refuges. ...
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David Crosby and Jason Isbell ‘Ohio’----Newport
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Activist Publishes 11,000 Private DMs Between Wikileaks and Its Supporters The DMs concern a particular group chat between the official Wikileaks account and several supporters. In the chat—dubbed “Wikileaks +10” due to number of participants—Wikileaks would coordinate smear campaigns against the group’s rivals, including journalists, according to the DMs. ...
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