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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:44:51pm

Christianist terrorists:

3 arrested on gun charges suspected in Minnesota mosque bombing

The suspects were identified as 47-year-old Michael B. Hari, 22-year-old Joe Morris and 29-year-old Michael McWhorter. All are from Clarence, Illinois, a rural community 35 miles north of Champaign-Urbana. A fourth man also faces the gun charge, but he was not identified as a suspect in the bombing or attempted bombing.

I suspect that the Michael B. Hari in that article is the same one who writes (from the reviews, not very good) books about central Illinois and…. yes, Christianity:

One Faith: Defending the Faith in the 21st Century

Does God exist? How do we know the Bible is true? How do we know that our beliefs are true, and others are false? These and other important questions are answered in a fun and easy to read format that will challenge and interest you! This volume of apologetic essays from an Old Order Anabaptist perspective was written at Rancho Tres Hermanos, in the desert of Northern Mexico, near Zaragoza, Coahuila in 2014-2015. It includes proofs for God, the nature of creation, the Scriptures, and heresiology including a lengthy section on Islam.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:47:24pm

Rex was a horrid SoS and actively tried to ruin the State Department that was entrusted to him and he was one of the best cabinet members Trump had.

We are soooo screwed.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:47:27pm

re: #1 freetoken

Fuck ‘em with a rusty spork. I remember that bombing and how pissed off it made me. I actually kind of expected some kind of right-wing Christian nutjob. The fact that they CAME HERE, FROM ILLINOIS, to try to kill Muslims spins me to a level of pissed off that I rarely achieve.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:49:07pm

re: #1 freetoken

They’re the right wing domestic terrorists that Trump doesn’t want people paying attention to.

These are the jack booted thugs of the Christian taliban who want to impose their religious ideologies on everyone else by force and coercion.

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:50:34pm

I’d also bet that the male part of this duo is the one arrested:

Her First Self Defense Gun: A Handbook For First Time Female Gun Buyers

Gun-fetishist Christianists - these are American terrorists.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:51:13pm

re: #4 lawhawk

And no so-called liberal Christian church will call them out, even though they can. They will not. No church will take a stand against any other church.

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teleskiguy  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:54:13pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:54:44pm
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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:55:12pm

Dude has history, assuming this is him.

From 12 years ago:

Jury finds former sheriff’s deputy guilty of abduction

Following 90 minutes of deliberation, a jury of eight men and four women on Friday found a former Ford County sheriff’s deputy and sheriff candidate guilty of child abduction.

Michael Hari, 35, dressed in black and sporting a full beard, stared straight ahead at the jury as his verdict was read.

Hari had taken his two daughters, Mollie Hari, 15, and Allene Hari, 13, to a Mennonite colony in Central America when he feared he would lose custody of the girls to his ex-wife, Michele Frakes of Peoria.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:56:20pm

Derp:

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William Lewis  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:57:19pm

re: #6 Anymouse 🌹

And no so-called liberal Christian church will call them out, even though they can. They will not. No church will take a stand against any other church.

Please. Some of us do. Daily. But hey, we don’t have a multi-million dollar propaganda budget so sorry our efforts to live what we claim to believe doesn’t live up to the perfection you demand.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 13, 2018 • 4:57:46pm

re: #1 freetoken

Christianist terrorists:

3 arrested on gun charges suspected in Minnesota mosque bombing

I suspect that the Michael B. Hari in that article is the same one who writes (from the reviews, not very good) books about central Illinois and…. yes, Christianity:

One Faith: Defending the Faith in the 21st Century

Interesting. I grew up about 35 miles south of there and have never heard of Clarence. I know of Paxton nearby. I don’t think there’s a lot of difference between Illinois and Indiana in their past as mostly “sundown” areas (non-whites better not stick around past sundown). The Peoria area gave us Matthew Hale, a religio-white supremacist who inspired another young racist from the Chicago/Wisconsin area to go on a shooting spree ranging from suburban Chicago to Bloomington, IN and back to Illinois, killing Ricky Birdsong (Northwestern U basketball coach, a Korean grad student, a black minister and injuring others). I guess I’m saying I am not surprised.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:00:03pm

Human Rights Campaign and other equal-rights groups are aghast at the selection of Mike Pompeo for Sec’y of State.

thedailybeast.com

LGBT rights groups were not thrilled with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson—but they are aghast at the news that President Trump has replaced the former Exxon CEO with CIA Director and former Kansas congressman Mike Pompeo.

Human Rights Campaign president Chad Griffin said in a Tuesday press statement that Pompeo was “a reckless choice to lead our nation’s diplomatic efforts” due to his “longstanding opposition to LGBTQ equality.”

“The decision to nominate anti-LGBTQ Mike Pompeo could have serious consequences for the United States and LGBTQ people around the globe,” Griffin said, adding that Pompeo could only contribute to the already “rapidly declining” role of the State Department in “advancing human rights” on the international stage.

The LGBT media advocacy group GLAAD also blasted Trump’s decision on Twitter, highlighting the fact that Tony Perkins, president of the anti-LGBT organization Family Research Council, is celebrating the sudden shift in power at the State Department.

(more)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:01:31pm

re: #11 William Lewis

Please. Some of us do. Daily. But hey, we don’t have a multi-million dollar propaganda budget so sorry our efforts to live what we claim to believe doesn’t live up to the perfection you demand.

You know I’m right there with you. Just sucks that the squeaky wheels, in our case, are the dumbshits who are making us look bad.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:01:39pm

re: #11 William Lewis

Please. Some of us do. Daily. But hey, we don’t have a multi-million dollar propaganda budget so sorry our efforts to live what we claim to believe doesn’t live up to the perfection you demand.

I’m not referring to individual Christians, many of whom do exactly this, call out bigotry and violence.

I’m referring to church organisations. When was the last time a nationwide church organisation called this out? Church organisation X calls out church group Y for hate and violence? I do not ever remember such a thing.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:01:44pm

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹

Zero.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:03:25pm

The polls are now closed in Penna. Now we wait… .

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:03:32pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:03:57pm

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹

Derp:

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Never to early to whine about losing and how it wasn’t your fault.

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teleskiguy  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:04:42pm

‘Member when these things were endangered? Yeah, I ‘member!

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:06:11pm

Oh, goody. Call Mueller, please.

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William Lewis  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:06:37pm

And completely OT, we lost Nokie Edwards: 1935-2018

Who’s that? I hear you saying that, I do. Guitar for The Ventures. The guy in the hat with the tele…

ハワイ ファイブ オー Hawaii Five-O inL.A. 18/18 TheVentures

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:07:55pm

re: #21 MsJ

That there’s funny, I don’t care who y’are.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:09:48pm
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MsJ  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:10:55pm
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scottslemmons  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:11:09pm

re: #21 MsJ

Oh, goody. Call Mueller, please.

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And he went straight from the White House to Trump’s re-election campaign.

I really don’t understand why these people are so slavishly, stupidly loyal to a guy who goes out of his way to humiliate them all the time.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:11:17pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

Oy Vey. He can’t anything right.

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:11:59pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

LOL

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:12:00pm

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹

Derp:

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:12:06pm

The New York Times has resurrected their “meter” showing who is ahead in the vote count, assuming at the start it was even between the Dems and GOP, with 1% going to the Libertarian candidate.

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:12:47pm

re: #25 MsJ

Counties of my ancestors (well, a few of them), who settled the area before the US Constitution and shortly thereafter. No doubt I have plenty of 6th-7th cousins still there.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:12:52pm

re: #24 Stanley Sea

The “e” is seven letters to the left of “p” on a keyboard.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:13:19pm

re: #26 scottslemmons

And he went straight from the White House to Trump’s re-election campaign.

I really don’t understand why these people are so slavishly, stupidly loyal to a guy who goes out of his way to humiliate them all the time.

In the campaign, Trump can get him to sign an NDA.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:15:34pm

re: #33 Anymouse 🌹

In the campaign, Trump can get him to sign an NDA.

Which, if they think about it, will not hold up if they’re called to testify against him.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:15:58pm

re: #32 Ace Rothstein

The “e” is seven letters to the left of “p” on a keyboard.

Additionally, there should be an “s” after “core.” LOL

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freetoken  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:16:11pm

re: #28 JordanRules

Look, his followers can’t spell either, so it’s not like they will be especially sensitive to this.

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EPR-radar  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:16:37pm

I remain opposed to the death penalty, but I would really like to see capital federal espionage charges used to scare the ever-loving shit out of Trump and the worst of his cronies.

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dangerman  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:16:56pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

Paul Manafort faces 305 years in prison


Is that a lot?

it’s all of them, katie

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:17:34pm

re: #37 EPR-radar

Seditious conspiracy is 20 years.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:17:42pm

For any Marines here, are there any statements about earning or not earning your “e”?

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Charles Johnson  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:18:25pm
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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:19:48pm

re: #10 Anymouse 🌹

:)

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:20:42pm

re: #36 freetoken

Look, his followers can’t spell either, so it’s not like they will be especially sensitive to this.

Doesn’t stop me from laughing at them. And doesn’t stop them from saying, what about 57 states?!?!

And I really don’t believe spelling is an indicator of intelligence. But these folks just said Maxine Waters has a low IQ so they can all eat a buffet of shit.

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:22:04pm
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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:22:45pm

Looks like he deleted the tweet.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:22:51pm

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹

I’m not referring to individual Christians, many of whom do exactly this, call out bigotry and violence.

I’m referring to church organisations. When was the last time a nationwide church organisation called this out? Church organisation X calls out church group Y for hate and violence? I do not ever remember such a thing.

Maybe not national enough for you, but it took all of two minutes to find.

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:25:27pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:25:54pm

United breaks guitars, drags screaming passengers down the aisle, and murders dogs.

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BlueGrl21  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:27:03pm

re: #16 Ace Rothstein

Zero.

If y’all want a war between the Episcopalians and the Southern Baptists, won’t happen. They address issues, not each other. For instance, Episcopalians made same sex marriage a sacrament, Southern Baptists issued a statement against it. Episcopal Church issued a statement of full support for gun control efforts, Southern Baptists are saying nothing. The two are polar opposites but you won’t see the Episcopal Church call out another denomination, just like you won’t see Southern Baptists denounce us. Everything is around specific issues.

There’s a reason for that. We don’t lump all people together under a label. There are conservative Episcopalians and liberal Baptists.

Just like there are liberal and conservative Atheists. Shall I assume the label “atheist” means all of you hold the same positions?

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BeachDem  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:27:23pm

re: #6 Anymouse 🌹

And no so-called liberal Christian church will call them out, even though they can. They will not. No church will take a stand against any other church.

Reverend Barber has, often and loudly.

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:27:59pm

re: #4 lawhawk

They’re the right wing domestic terrorists that Trump doesn’t want people paying attention to.

These are the jack booted thugs of the Christian taliban who want to impose their religious ideologies on everyone else by force and coercion.

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That black and white image of the guy looks like it could be from the civil war, say a Confederate soldier.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:28:50pm

re: #26 scottslemmons

And he went straight from the White House to Trump’s re-election campaign.

I really don’t understand why these people are so slavishly, stupidly loyal to a guy who goes out of his way to humiliate them all the time.

They can’t get jobs anywhere else?

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:28:56pm

re: #46 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Maybe not national enough for you, but it took all of two minutes to find.

Not a group, but this black pastor did some denouncing right in Pence’s face.
splinternews.com

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A Cranky One  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:29:24pm

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹

I’m not referring to individual Christians, many of whom do exactly this, call out bigotry and violence.

I’m referring to church organisations. When was the last time a nationwide church organisation called this out? Church organisation X calls out church group Y for hate and violence? I do not ever remember such a thing.

I’ve asked that question to several high ranking national church leaders. The response was that they have, in fact, done so. However, the media doesn’t consider it “news worthy” and so don’t report it.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:30:00pm

re: #54 A Cranky One

I’ve asked that question to several high ranking national church leaders. The response was that they have, in fact, done so. However, the media doesn’t consider it “news worthy” and so don’t report it.

Pretty much on the same level as Democrats trying to get heard.

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:30:09pm
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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:30:11pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:34:39pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:35:17pm

DO NOT watch every freaking return/prediction

Watching every freaking return/prediction

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:37:19pm

re: #59 Stanley Sea

20 point swing from Trump to Lamb.

That’s not encouraging for the GOP. That’s very encouraging for Lamb and Democrats.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:37:23pm

re: #59 Stanley Sea

DO NOT watch every freaking return/prediction

Watching every freaking return/prediction

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+20. If you see Republicans wearing the brown pants from now on, you’ll know why.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:37:23pm

re: #59 Stanley Sea

Just remember any election is not over until ALL of the votes are counted.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:37:57pm

re: #46 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Maybe not national enough for you, but it took all of two minutes to find.

It condemns the bombing, not the conservative churches that preach violence. It was the second half of that sentence I referred to: No church will ever condemn another church.

And as a branch of the United Methodist Church, that statement would not have been released unless UMC bishops allowed it.

Good on them for condemning a mosque bombing, no points for failure to condemn churches that preach hate.

No church has even condemned the Christian Identity overt Nazi racist churches.

When the UMC condemns the Southern Baptist Convention I’ll reconsider my position.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:38:20pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:38:36pm

Can’t help it.

It will be my demise.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:39:09pm
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ipsos  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:39:24pm

Trump doesn’t type. He uses speech to text. That’s where “Core” came from.

Bet he CAN’T type.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:40:54pm

re: #67 ipsos

Trump doesn’t type. He uses speech to text. That’s where “Core” came from.

Bet he CAN’T type.

That might very well explain his myriad of typos. Not small thumbs, but speech-to-text.

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:41:35pm

Finally some results trickling in.

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gocart mozart  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:42:14pm

Pennsylvania Special Election Results: 18th Congressional District
Conor Lamb leads by 18 percentage points over Rick Saccone with 2 percent of precincts fully reporting.

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:44:08pm

re: #36 freetoken

Look, his followers can’t spell either, so it’s not like they will be especially sensitive to this.

They will mock anyone that points out the spelling error as Obama elitists. All that college crap that ruined this country…don’t need no damn degree in spellin’ to work in the coal mines or the steel factory.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:45:25pm

re: #69 MsJ

Finally some results trickling in.

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SACCONE WOULD HAVE WON BUT ALL OF THE REAL AMERICANS WERE TOO BUSY WORKING DOUBLE SHIFTS AT ONE OF THE MANY NEW STEEL MILLS

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:45:33pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:45:56pm

re: #70 gocart mozart

Pennsylvania Special Election Results: 18th Congressional District
Conor Lamb leads by 18 percentage points over Rick Saccone with 2 percent of precincts fully reporting.

Moreover, rural areas with few voters tend to complete their counts first, while cities tend to report late. If Mr. Saccone is running behind in the rural areas, he is in real trouble.

Moreover, the GOP spent a ton of money on this special election. I imagine if the vote totals don’t turn around quickly, there are going to be piles of Republicans sweating out the election in November.

A district this red going for a Democrat, right after the Alabama senate election, means nearly every GOP House district is competitive.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:46:18pm

re: #70 gocart mozart

Pennsylvania Special Election Results: 18th Congressional District
Conor Lamb leads by 18 percentage points over Rick Saccone with 2 percent of precincts fully reporting.

Those millions of dollars the GOP poured into this district is beginning to look like money not well spent. Thank you to Murphy’s mistress!

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gocart mozart  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:46:19pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:47:00pm
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BlueGrl21  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:48:00pm

re: #59 Stanley Sea

DO NOT watch every freaking return/prediction

Watching every freaking return/prediction

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I’m horrible. My husband is worse. He’s watching every precinct come on and saying, “Hillary won this one by .5%, Lamb is up 15%!”

Of course, he also just said, “Someone should have written the headline, ‘Tyrant Sore At Rex!”

Say it out loud.

We’re not speaking.

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gocart mozart  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:48:34pm

Pennsylvania Special Election Results: 18th Congressional District
Conor Lamb leads by 21 percentage points over Rick Saccone with 5 percent of precincts fully reporting. Jump to estimate of final result ↓

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teleskiguy  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:48:38pm
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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:48:51pm

This is pretty cool:

ICON has developed a method for printing a single-story 650-square-foot house out of cement in only 12 to 24 hours, a fraction of the time it takes for new construction. If all goes according to plan, a community made up of about 100 homes will be constructed for residents in El Salvador next year. The company has partnered with New Story, a nonprofit that is vested in international housing solutions. “We have been building homes for communities in Haiti, El Salvador, and Bolivia,” Alexandria Lafci, co-founder of New Story, tells The Verge.

….

Using the Vulcan printer, ICON can print an entire home for $10,000 and plans to bring costs down to $4,000 per house. “It’s much cheaper than the typical American home,” Ballard says. It’s capable of printing a home that’s 800 square feet, a significantly bigger structure than properties pushed by the tiny home movement, which top out at about 400 square feet. In contrast, the average New York apartment is about 866 square feet.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:49:44pm

re: #78 BlueGrl21

The NY Daily News or Post would pay for that kind of headline (probably not what you wanted to hear, but did).

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Charles Johnson  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:51:12pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:54:06pm

I know it won’t hold, but if Lamb won by double digits tonight, the screams for the exits would drown out a jet engine at full throttle.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:56:54pm

re: #84 Targetpractice

We can dream, can’t we?

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:57:14pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:57:24pm

re: #85 Ace Rothstein

We can dream, can’t we?

You may say that I’m a dreamer…

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:58:30pm

NYT moves their prediction to 54% for the GOP.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:59:05pm

Frothy Mix spinning furiously on CNN, LOL.

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bratwurst  Mar 13, 2018 • 5:59:13pm

Hey, I wonder how ol’ Tuck Face is covering election night…

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:00:47pm

re: #89 Big Beautiful Door

Frothy Mix spinning furiously on CNN, LOL.

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:00:51pm
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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:01:33pm

re: #90 bratwurst

This network is dangerous.

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:02:20pm

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:02:30pm

re: #73 JordanRules

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A really simple comment:

Those who see space as a fucking war asset suck.

They are the sci-fi destroyers.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:02:39pm

I wonder what NYT is seeing? Saccone keeps getting stronger according to them.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:04:28pm

re: #96 Big Beautiful Door

I wonder what NYT is seeing? Saccone keeps getting stronger according to them.

Allegedly they see the votes as soon as they are posted by the state Secretary of State.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:04:29pm

re: #86 JordanRules

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Maybe it’s that GOP lady I saw on CNN - ALL IN for Lamb.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:05:05pm

NYT thinks the vote that is still out will come in strongly for Saccone.

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:05:06pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:05:07pm

re: #96 Big Beautiful Door

I wonder what NYT is seeing? Saccone keeps getting stronger according to them.

Maybe they are seeing it is too early to give solid results. They are waiting for Trump to nod off for the night watching Fox. They don’t want to hear the howls.

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teleskiguy  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:05:33pm

Ski school director is doing the March Madness bracket thingy and I stupidly opted in, $10. I’m just randomly picking fuckin’ teams ‘cause I know fuck all about college basketball. I have the south and west done which pits Kentucky vs. North Carolina in the final four. Still working on the east and midwest to determine the other two teams of the final four.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:05:43pm

re: #96 Big Beautiful Door

I wonder what NYT is seeing? Saccone keeps getting stronger according to them.

From their page:

Our tally of votes comes from results reported by county election officials. It may differ from the totals at the top of the page, which were assembled by The Associated Press. (Right now, our counts are about even.) Below, our best guess for how many votes each candidate will end up with when all votes are counted…

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:06:35pm

re: #96 Big Beautiful Door

Someone from Trump’s office called them and told them they have to push Saccone or they will not get press credentials for the next WH briefing.

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:07:21pm

re: #102 teleskiguy

Ski school director is doing the March Madness bracket thingy and I stupidly opted in, $10. I’m just randomly picking fuckin’ teams ‘cause I know fuck all about college basketball. I have the south and west done which pits Kentucky vs. North Carolina in the final four. Still working on the east and midwest to determine the other two teams of the final four.

I watch some college ball. You have as good a chance as anyone because this year there is no dominant team. It is as open a field as ever. Good luck!

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:07:29pm

re: #102 teleskiguy

Ski school director is doing the March Madness bracket thingy and I stupidly opted in, $10. I’m just randomly picking fuckin’ teams ‘cause I know fuck all about college basketball. I have the south and west done which pits Kentucky vs. North Carolina in the final four. Still working on the east and midwest to determine the other two teams of the final four.

FLORIDA

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:08:06pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:08:14pm

re: #105 ObserverArt

I watch some college ball. You have as good a chance as anyone because this year there is no dominant team. It is as open a field as ever. Good luck!

I printed my bracket.

Tomorrow is the day.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:08:17pm

re: #73 JordanRules

The Death Star worked, so…no.

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Schweppes7  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:08:50pm

re: #102 teleskiguy

I also know nothing and ended up in a pool. I found this fivethirtyeight analysis to be very helpful in shaping my picks with the rough odds for each team of moving on for each round!

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

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A Cranky One  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:08:51pm

A little something for the guitarist lizards:

loudwire.com

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:10:07pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:11:17pm

re: #108 Stanley Sea

I printed my bracket.

Tomorrow is the day.

Of course I am an Ohio State/B1G Ten Conference fan. Sad thing is the Buckeyes have Gonzaga as second game should they both win in the first round. But they beat us early on and the team was just learning the new head coach…so you never know.

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Schweppes7  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:11:17pm

NYT thing is back to Lamb with 51% chance of winning.

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teleskiguy  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:11:33pm

re: #102 teleskiguy

OK, my final four is Kentucky, North Carolina, Virginia Tech, and Kansas. Kentucky vs. Kansas for the final, Kentucky wins.

I’ll find out on 2 April if I win money.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:11:40pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:11:49pm

And now the Needle Of Fate is back in the blue, barely. I watched it swing 2 whole points in a second.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:12:17pm

re: #114 Schweppes7

NYT thing is back to Lamb with 51% chance of winning.

CHANCE OF WINNING
52%Lamb

That is a freakin heart attack needle.

I hate it!

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:12:26pm

According to Daily Kos, Westmoreland County says it likely won’t have any results until 9:30 pm. It’s one of the redder areas.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:12:37pm

re: #114 Schweppes7

NYT thing is back to Lamb with 51% chance of winning.

Their estimate of the votes to come changed radically. Lamb must be doing better in red precincts than they had expected.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:12:56pm

re: #115 teleskiguy

OK, my final four is Kentucky, North Carolina, Virginia Tech, and Kansas. Kentucky vs. Kansas for the final, Kentucky wins.

I’ll find out on 2 April if I win money.

You’ll know if there are black clouds from burning couches over Lexington, KY.

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:13:24pm

MSNBC is showing Lamb at 54% - 36,835 to 46% -31,167 Saccone. 31% in.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:13:28pm

Rock Chalk JayHawk

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:14:01pm

re: #119 Belafon

According to Daily Kos, Westmoreland County says it likely won’t have any results until 9:30 pm. It’s one of the redder areas.

What is it they always say when the big cities report and the results swing Democratic? “They had to wait till everyone else reported so they knew how many votes to add.”
//

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:14:33pm

re: #123 Stanley Sea

Could lose to Auburn in the Sweet 16 if it comes to that.

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gocart mozart  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:14:37pm

NYT now has Lamb at 52% chance of winning with a 9 point lead

nytimes.com

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:14:41pm

re: #121 Barefoot Grin

You’ll know if there are black clouds from burning couches over Lexington, KY.

If the smoke is white, however, then there’s no new pope.

/

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:16:44pm

Tillerson leaving has completed fucked up my brackets.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:17:41pm

I have to plan an hour at least tomorrow to sign onto the bracket challenges, hopefully they remember my password. Find the Gator groups & then do the bracket.

Stress.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:17:42pm

I know it is a long shot but if either Villanova or Penn (University of Pennsylvania) I will be happy.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:17:46pm

re: #109 The Ghost of a Flea

The Death Star worked, so…no.

We’re going to get like 50% of a sphere and an especially strong microwave.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:19:03pm

re: #130 PhillyPretzel

Villanova is not a long shot as a #1 seed. By the way, Penn is only a 12-point dog to Kansas.

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gocart mozart  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:19:03pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:19:04pm

re: #130 PhillyPretzel

I know it is a long shot but if either Villanova or Penn (University of Pennsylvania) I will be happy.

Nova isn’t a long shot. 538 says that Penn has a relatively good shot at being the first #16 seed to ever beat a #1 seed.

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jamesfirecat  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:20:20pm

re: #131 The Ghost of a Flea

We’re going to get like 50% of a sphere and an especially strong microwave.

No, it will be two separate half spheres floating alongside one another like a pair of breasts…

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:20:24pm

Kansas and especially Xavier are weak #1 seeds.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:20:27pm

Updates from DK land:

Well, looks like Westmoreland has started coming in a bit early. We just got a huge dump of votes, taking us to 36% reporting and considerably narrowing the margin, to 54-46 Lamb.
—-
Vote-counting has suddenly picked up steam. We’re at 45% reporting now, and Lamb is still at 54-46.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:20:48pm

re: #132 Ace Rothstein

It is okay. As I said if either one makes it that would be good.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:20:53pm

re: #127 Targetpractice

If the smoke is white, however, then there’s no new pope.

/

His Holiness Calipari for another year?

gq.com

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:21:10pm

hopehopehopehope

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:21:18pm

re: #131 The Ghost of a Flea

We’re going to get like 50% of a sphere and an especially strong microwave.

“Now witness the firepower of this fully operational burrito nuker…”

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:22:22pm

Sorry, I had to leave and raise the flags in the village to full-staff.

Did we win the election yet?

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:22:33pm

re: #135 jamesfirecat

No, it will be two separate half spheres floating alongside one another like a pair of breasts…

Will they come with a vacuum?

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:23:09pm

re: #143 Belafon

It’s gone from suck to blow.

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:23:13pm

NYT is now 51% Lamb win.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:23:19pm

re: #141 Targetpractice

“fully operational”

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:23:35pm

re: #136 Ace Rothstein

Kansas and especially Xavier are weak #1 seeds.

It is fun seeing Xavier as a #1 though. For a little Cincinnati Catholic college they crank out big results in basketball. Lot of good coaches started there too. Usually they are a surprise team, this year they get the target.

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BlueGrl21  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:24:36pm

re: #142 Anymouse 🌹

Sorry, I had to leave and raise the flags in the village to full-staff.

Did we win the election yet?

It’s WAY close. I keep refreshing my browser and holding my breath.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:26:17pm

re: #145 MsJ

NYT is now 51% Lamb win.

But Nate Cohn is reporting that Westmoreland won’t report precinct by precinct results till tomorrow (totals tonight?), and the Needle Of Fate needs precinct level data, so their models can’t model.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:26:18pm

In spite of my bad pun I want Lamb to win Baaaaa (big).

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:27:02pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:28:53pm

Posted?

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:29:14pm

The fickle needle of fate has moved to 54% Lamb.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:29:50pm

re: #21 MsJ

Oh, goody. Call Mueller, please.

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It’s amazing that McEntee has landed already and will be working for Trump’s re-election campaign. #notnormal.

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gocart mozart  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:30:43pm

NYT has Lamb at 54% chance with 62% reporting

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Charles Johnson  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:31:10pm

I really like the one with a scary cylinder on top. WHAT’S IN THAT CYLINDER?!

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:31:13pm

re: #155 gocart mozart

NYT has Lamb at 54% chance with 62% reporting

55% now.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:31:36pm

re: #145 MsJ

NYT is now 51% Lamb win.

Until the vote is all in — or outside the margin of possibility — e.g. 97% in and Lamb is ahead by 5%, we cannot assume anything. This is a very red district. The fact that many red precincts voted for Lamb doesn’t mean all will switch .

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:31:40pm

re: #154 Patricia Kayden

It’s amazing that McEntee has landed already and will be working for Trump’s re-election campaign. #notnormal.

He fucking held the hairspray & comb for the yam.

indispensable hire

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:31:45pm

re: #156 Charles Johnson

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I really like the one with a scary cylinder on top. WHAT’S IN THAT CYLINDER?!

It’s bacon. It’s to keep those dirty Muslims from climbing the wall.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:32:23pm

re: #160 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s bacon. It’s to keep those dirty Muslims from climbing the wall.

Vaseline

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:33:22pm

re: #156 Charles Johnson

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I really like the one with a scary cylinder on top. WHAT’S IN THAT CYLINDER?!

The part of the wall Mexico paid for.

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Jay C  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:33:34pm

re: #156 Charles Johnson

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I really like the one with a scary cylinder on top. WHAT’S IN THAT CYLINDER?!

Probably nothing: I think those cylinders are meant to revolve so as to be harder to grab and scale (?)
Though I’m sure there’s some simple means (a la Vicente Fox’s ladder) to defeat that measure as well…

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:33:34pm

re: #156 Charles Johnson

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I really like the one with a scary cylinder on top. WHAT’S IN THAT CYLINDER?!

The cylinder is to make it harder to throw something over like a grappling hook and have it be able to get a grip (physical security hat from the Navy is around here somewhere)… .

It won’t stop a ladder though.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:33:50pm

re: #158 Hecuba’s daughter

This is appropriate:
re: #59 Stanley Sea

DO NOT watch every freaking return/prediction

Watching every freaking return/prediction

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No one’s going “We’ve won” but we’re political addicts.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:33:54pm

re: #156 Charles Johnson

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I really like the one with a scary cylinder on top. WHAT’S IN THAT CYLINDER?!

This looks like something at Home(land) Depot. “Excuse me, I’m looking for border walls.”

“Aisle 5, I think.”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:34:42pm

re: #156 Charles Johnson

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I really like the one with a scary cylinder on top. WHAT’S IN THAT CYLINDER?!

Gwyneth Paltrow.

It’s actually a pretty cunning way to deter people.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:35:46pm

OOOPPPSS:

Live Estimates of the Final Vote
Reliable precinct data is not currently available. Our forecast is not trustworthy right now.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:35:58pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:36:04pm

NYT has taken down the needle, says the data isn’t available.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:36:55pm

re: #148 BlueGrl21

It’s WAY close. I keep refreshing my browser and holding my breath.

My wife got tired of live political updates from me and put “Scandal” on Hulu.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:36:58pm

re: #170 Big Beautiful Door

They just got another call from Trump and Company.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:37:09pm
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Alephnaught  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:37:40pm

re: #156 Charles Johnson

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I really like the one with a scary cylinder on top. WHAT’S IN THAT CYLINDER?!

The one with the cylinder on top is the one that looks most like the Berlin Wall.

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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:38:05pm

re: #156 Charles Johnson

So, for a few million dollars, we’ve got a couple of paddle ball courts.

Yippee. I can now play under the sun….

And all of them can be circumvented with ladders and/or ropes.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:38:31pm

So, we’ll just go with counts. Another DK update:

With a big dump of votes from Westmoreland County taking us to 71% reporting, Lamb’s lead narrows to 51.5 to 48.

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:38:57pm
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lawhawk  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:39:08pm

re: #160 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Crisco - it’s what Philly uses to keep idiots from climbing light poles.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:39:27pm

re: #178 lawhawk

Crisco - it’s what Philly uses to keep idiots from climbing light poles.

Which didn’t work.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:40:00pm

re: #173 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Of course. The GOP always fucks up the progress of modernization.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:40:55pm

re: #151 Kragar

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gocart mozart  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:41:24pm

What does this mean/

Live Estimates of the Final Vote
Reliable precinct data is not currently available. Our forecast is not trustworthy right now.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:42:05pm

re: #182 gocart mozart

See #173.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:43:25pm

Absentee ballots in Allegheny County, close to 4k, will be counted and reported by about midnight.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:43:39pm

People need to understand uncertainty.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:44:13pm

From the previous thread:

re: #319 weave

If you really want a 50 state strategy or to win in red areas, you have to knock off the purity tests and accept that in these areas, representatives should represent the voters in their district.

Believe it or not, there are a lot of liberals who also love their guns and cherish their right to own them. Many of them will vote on that one issue because that’s a big deal for them. But other than the guns, they care about and support all other Democratic positions.

Be in this to win.

Yup. I’m a gun owner. I do care about that, but that is not my sole motivation, and I care about legislation that makes gun owners freakin’ responsible for owning the things. They aren’t paperweights. I’m all for Jim Wright’s suggestion of legislating the NRA’s own safety rules as law.

I care about other issues that the Democratic Party stands for and the Republican Party stands against. I am not a one-issue voter so I won’t vote solely on a position of guns. That said, others might.

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BlueGrl21  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:45:00pm

re: #174 Alephnaught

The one with the cylinder on top is the one that looks most like the Berlin Wall.

And none of those walls are transparent. I thought that was a requirement.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:45:36pm

re: #174 Alephnaught

The one with the cylinder on top is the one that looks most like the Berlin Wall.

You mean the “Anti-fascist Rampart.”

The wall meant to keep people in, not out.

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ObserverArt  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:45:49pm

The election is tightening up. Looks to be 52% to 48% with 75% reporting according to MSNBC.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:46:53pm

From the same DK Link:

This is a good time for a reminder that, once again, this district never should have been competitive to begin with. Donald Trump carried it by a giant 58-39 margin in 2016, and Democrats weren’t even able to field a candidate here either that year or in 2014. Yet Republicans have had to spend over $10 million to try to defend this seat. They simply can’t do that for seats this red in November—and there are a ton of seats that are bluer.

The point to focus on is not the whether-we-win-or-lose, but imagine the GOP having to spend $10M on every district with less than a +20 margin this fall.

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Schweppes7  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:47:05pm

NYT has Lamb up 1.4% with 87% reporting.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:47:08pm

I made a twitter thread explaining today.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:47:15pm

re: #159 Stanley Sea

He fucking held the hairspray & comb for the yam.

indispensable hire

He was the one who would stand in the mirror frame and mimic Cheeto’s movements so that Cheeto would think he was a hot guy. We already know Cheeto is nearsighted and too vain to wear glasses.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:47:27pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:47:31pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:47:39pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:48:09pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:48:56pm

What’s the deal on Westmoreland County, Penna. not reporting?

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:49:02pm

re: #187 BlueGrl21

And none of those walls are transparent. I thought that was a requirement.

Same as the administration itself right? Swamp the drain

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:49:05pm

re: #197 gocart mozart

Data is data. Hold the diss of the NYT

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:49:16pm

re: #190 Belafon

From the same DK Link:

The point to focus on is not the whether-we-win-or-lose, but imagine the GOP having to spend $10M on every district with less than a +20 margin this fall.

I agree to a point. But dammit. We NEED wins. Every one we can get.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:49:48pm

re: #197 gocart mozart

Did you go look at comment #173?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:50:03pm

re: #202 Belafon

Did you go look at comment #173?

Do not mention comment #173.

///

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:50:25pm

re: #198 Anymouse 🌹

I have no idea. They are probably wait until all of the other votes are counted.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:50:46pm

re: #201 GlutenFreeJesus

I agree to a point. But dammit. We NEED wins. Every one we can get.

I know. I was trying to bring in the additional idea of watching Republicans having to spend that much additional money just to protect seats.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:51:05pm

re: #201 GlutenFreeJesus

I agree to a point. But dammit. We NEED wins. Every one we can get.

It will be a shame if Lamb doesn’t win. But if every +20 Trump district is a toss-up like this, the Democrats are going to win control of the House easily in November.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:51:10pm

re: #201 GlutenFreeJesus

I agree to a point. But dammit. We NEED wins. Every one we can get.

Agreed, winning this tonight would be worth millions of dollars to the Dems.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:51:26pm

re: #204 PhillyPretzel

I have no idea. They are probably wait until all of the other votes are counted.

They’re reporting county-level numbers, and they’re reporting number of precincts reporting, but they’re not reporting precinct-level numbers.

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ipsos  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:51:30pm

re: #198 Anymouse 🌹

What’s the deal on Westmoreland County, Penna. not reporting?

What was the outcome of the resolution your board was supposed to be considering, btw? I may have missed it in today’s firehose of insane news.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:52:44pm

The comments are mostly good. And then you get down there and fucking Paul Nehland (sp?) shows up as the racist douche he is.

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:53:03pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:53:04pm

A see-through wall that can’t be climbed, eh? Sounds like an imaginary wall would do the trick!

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:53:15pm

re: #201 GlutenFreeJesus

I agree to a point. But dammit. We NEED wins. Every one we can get.

That and it’s tough to tell voters in other states, “Well, we came close” when it’s time for them to vote.

To a lot of people who are not politicians or politics junkies, a loss of fifty votes is no different than a loss of ten thousand votes. All they see is a loss.

The victories by Danica Roem in Virginia and Doug Jones in Alabama are the kinds of things that energise voters. While John Ossoff did surprisingly well in Georgia, he still lost, and that’s all that’s remembered about that election.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:53:53pm

Complete non sequitur to conversation:

Watching a crime show where they are once again taking the word of a psychopath about what motivated the psychopath.

Utter horseshit. Utter fucking horseshit.

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:54:11pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:54:49pm

Lamb by 0.4% with 94% of precincts reporting

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:55:06pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:55:21pm

I will say this about the wall: one thing to watch is who gets the contracts for every part of this. Including what the plan is for security/manning the wall.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:56:10pm

re: #206 Big Beautiful Door

It will be a shame if Lamb doesn’t win. But if every +20 Trump district is a toss-up like this, the Democrats are going to win control of the House easily in November.

My Republican county prosecutor (who is also our village attorney) was talking favourably about Dave Domina at the village board meeting last night. Domina is the man who ran against Ben Sasse. He also represented Bold Nebraska in its fights against the Keystone XL Pipeline.

He had nothing but good to say about Mr. Domina (we were discussing him in context of a crapfest of issues that have come out between two state organisations). Our attorney said he would support Mr. Domina if he ran again for an office. (Mr. Domina is a Democrat.)

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ipsos  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:56:15pm

*IF* if if the NYT #s are at least accurate as to the total percentage of vote that’s in from each county….

….and *IF* if if the last 12% of Westmoreland and last 7% of Allegheny generally follow the vote that’s already in, it looks pretty good for Lamb.

IF

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:56:25pm
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William Lewis  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:57:38pm

re: #198 Anymouse 🌹

What’s the deal on Westmoreland County, Penna. not reporting?

Waiting to see how far behind they are in Allegheny so they know how many votes to fake?

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:58:00pm

re: #221 Belafon

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Pretty likely a recount is going to be needed.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:58:26pm

It’s not like it could have anything to do with flamethrowers, right?
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:58:55pm

Oh yay great. Getting rid of Tillerson removes another hurdle for getting Bolton in.////////

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:59:33pm

re: #222 William Lewis

Waiting to see how far behind they are in Allegheny so they know how many votes to fake?

See my comment….

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 6:59:41pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:00:16pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:01:22pm

re: #228 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Good. The conspiraliars should pay for slandering people.

As I understand, Alex Jones is under a lawsuit now as well.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:01:40pm

re: #217 Belafon

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And if Saccone loses, it will not be because of Trump, no matter what. Because wharrgarbl.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:02:05pm

re: #230 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And if Saccone loses, it will not be because of Trump, no matter what. Because wharrgarbl.

He was 20 points worth of weak candidate.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:02:05pm

More from DK:

Hoo boy it’s tight: 95% reporting and Lamb is ahead 49.9 to 49.5.

In terms of raw votes, it’s Lamb 101,907, Saccone 100,979. The small bit of good news for Lamb is that his raw vote lead actually grew slightly with the last update.

Remaining precincts: 12 in Allegheny, 5 in Westmoreland, 13 in Washington.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:02:30pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:02:48pm

re: #231 Blind Frog Belly White

He was 20 points worth of weak candidate.

Congratulations, you’ve just coined tomorrow morning’s Fox and Friends headliner.

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BlueGrl21  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:02:49pm

re: #212 Blind Frog Belly White

A see-through wall that can’t be climbed, eh? Sounds like an imaginary wall would do the trick!

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I work in the tech industry. This is what happens when the CEO wants to provide the system requirements.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:02:52pm

Who the fuck is Miller?? Some Libertarian?

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nines09  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:03:03pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:03:04pm

re: #222 William Lewis

Waiting to see how far behind they are in Allegheny so they know how many votes to fake?

Are they willing to just up and fake an election result? While there’s been a lot of talk about uprisings, that might very well lead to violence.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:03:14pm

re: #232 Belafon

More from DK:

NYT has Lamb’s lead up a little higher now.

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Jay C  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:03:14pm

re: #201 GlutenFreeJesus

I agree to a point. But dammit. We NEED wins. Every one we can get.

Ab-so-freakin’-lutely. It doesn’t matter if the Republican Party has had to spend $50 million in an R+99 district to elect Buster the Crash Test Dummy by 87 votes. The bottom line is that Buster (R) goes to Congress or whatever and the (D) in the race - no matter how brilliant or qualified or excellent a campaigner- goes to the Loser bin. Which is how the media is going to report it: the GOP spin is the default narrative, and only a Dem victory - narrow or landslide - is going to erase that disadvantage. THEY could give a crap about “close” or “shifts” - results are all that matters. And I think it’s about time the Democrats start thinking that way, too.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:03:31pm

re: #235 BlueGrl21

I work in the tech industry. This is what happens when the CEO wants to provide the system requirements.

And the launch date, amirite?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:03:54pm

re: #238 Anymouse 🌹

Are they willing to just up and fake an election result? While there’s been a lot of talk about uprisings, that might very well lead to violence.

Of course they are. Of the few voter fraud incidents that have occurred in the last few years, I don’t know if any of them have been perpetrated by Democrats. The Republicans are absolutely not above literally throwing an election if they think they can get away with it.

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:04:24pm

re: #232 Belafon

More from DK:

With numbers like this, I think it really reinforces the ‘every vote counts’ part of the GOTV push. And I think that helps, especially with all the first time voters, win or lose.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:04:38pm

re: #238 Anymouse 🌹

Are they willing to just up and fake an election result? While there’s been a lot of talk about uprisings, that might very well lead to violence.

You know that’s what the Right says every election when the urban precincts dump results late.

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calochortus  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:05:41pm

re: #238 Anymouse 🌹

Are they willing to just up and fake an election result? While there’s been a lot of talk about uprisings, that might very well lead to violence.

Wasn’t that a reference to the eternal conservative meme that cities come in last because they need to know how many fraudulent Dem votes to come up with?

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calochortus  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:06:19pm

Missed it by that much.

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BlueGrl21  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:06:26pm

re: #241 Blind Frog Belly White

And the launch date, amirite?

Launch date, scope, and budget. Triple constraints. Provided by a completely out of touch and crack-smoking executive.

This has been my nightmare scenario my entire career.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:06:28pm

I like Steve Kornacki.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:06:41pm

Lamb’s lead up to 1,238

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William Lewis  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:06:56pm

re: #238 Anymouse 🌹

Are they willing to just up and fake an election result? While there’s been a lot of talk about uprisings, that might very well lead to violence.

Didn’t stop them in Waukesha county when Walker was losing and they suddenly “found” a box of ballots in the back of one of their cars.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:06:59pm

re: #233 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Which is why we should run a candidate in every race. You can’t win if you don’t have a ticket.

If I can get freakin’ elected and reëlected in this place, there doesn’t seem to be a reason we can’t be competitive (or at least try).

When my wife and I first came to town with an “I heart Obamacare” sticker on our car, a whole lot of people were surprised here there were liberals who’d served in the military. They’d never seen one. Then they elected me. Twice.

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calochortus  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:07:13pm

re: #247 BlueGrl21

Launch date, scope, and budget. Triple constraints. Provided by a completely out of scope and crack-smoking executive.

This has been my nightmare scenario my entire career.

Can’t you just write up some code, or something?
/

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:08:22pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:08:23pm

re: #249 Big Beautiful Door

Lamb’s lead up to 1,238

Every…fucking…vote…COUNTS! Days like these are why I hate the “I don’t see a point to voting” crowd with a fiery passion that burns hotter than than a thousand suns.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:09:01pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:09:02pm

re: #247 BlueGrl21

Launch date, scope, and budget. Triple constraints. Provided by a completely out of scope and crack-smoking executive.

This has been my nightmare scenario my entire career.

This is becoming more relevant to me as I’m in the process of moving back into the traditional IT organizational role. I only hope I can get into a position with enough seniority that I can safely tell the executive, “Go fuck yourself,” and not immediately get tossed on my ass.

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:09:02pm

re: #240 Jay C

The GOP literally has an infinite amount of money to spend with Russians and billionaires giving them a blank check, so $50 million is nothing to spend to turn us into a one party kleptocracy.

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dangerman  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:09:47pm

re: #251 Anymouse 🌹

Which is why we should run a candidate in every race. You can’t win if you don’t have a ticket.

If I can get freakin’ elected and reëlected in this place, there doesn’t seem to be a reason we can’t be competitive (or at least try).

When my wife and I first came to town with an “I heart Obamacare” sticker on our car, a whole lot of people were surprised here there were liberals who’d served in the military. They’d never seen one. Then they elected me. Twice.

Good candidates can win

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:10:35pm

More on recount rules

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nines09  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:11:02pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:11:03pm

re: #254 Targetpractice

Every…fucking…vote…COUNTS! Days like these are why I hate the “I don’t see a point to voting” crowd with a fiery passion that burns hotter than than a thousand suns.

My own state tends to run 80% or so turnout (the benefit of mail ballots).

It chaps my butt a lot more about people who think “it doesn’t matter, government doesn’t affect me” or “both candidates are the same” or “I’m not going to choose between the lesser of two evils.” Those are all memes conservatives have spent generations trying to pound into voters’ heads.

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dangerman  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:11:38pm

re: #258 dangerman

Good candidates can win

And by good I mean Jones, lamb, anymouse

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:11:45pm

re: #251 Anymouse 🌹

Prior years they weren’t going to be competitive.

Like you, I live in a very red district here in Texas. Democrats didn’t run anyone in the prior two elections against Ratcliffe. This year, because of Trump, we actually had a Democratic primary. I really don’t expect the Dem to win, because our district is like R+36 or some ridiculous number. What I do think is that having Democrats everywhere here in Texas improves our chances for statewide offices.

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William Lewis  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:12:01pm

re: #254 Targetpractice

Every…fucking…vote…COUNTS! Days like these are why I hate the “I don’t see a point to voting” crowd with a fiery passion that burns hotter than than a thousand suns.

eh, if voting changed anything they’d make it illegal …

(must I? well, just in case, /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////)

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:12:51pm

re: #257 Skip Intro

The GOP literally has an infinite amount of money to spend with Russians and billionaires giving them a blank check, so $50 million is nothing to spend to turn us into a one party kleptocracy.

Keep accepting them, GOP, just make sure Meuller sees the addresses.

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:13:10pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:13:27pm

re: #258 dangerman

Good candidates can win

I don’t know if I qualify as a “good” candidate. I did go and see every person in town at their homes when I ran for office. (Local issues are not the same as national or statewide issues though.)

Even a poor candidate on the ballot has a chance though. No candidate on the ballot means people like me turn in ballots with only the offices of President and Vice-President voted for, and the rest blank.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:13:28pm

re: #264 William Lewis

eh, if voting changed anything they’d make it illegal …

(must I? well, just in case, /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////)

Like they are trying to do?

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:14:29pm

re: #258 dangerman

Good candidates can win

They can win, but let’s not kid ourselves. Cruz didn’t win because he was the better candidate. Neither did Perry or Abbott.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:15:04pm

99% of Westmoreland is now in, and Lamb still has a lead of 918

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:15:32pm

re: #262 dangerman

And by good I mean Jones, lamb, anymouse

[blush]
The guy who edits erotic Romance novels and has a private sex blog.

There is a difference with me though: Everyone in town knows that, because I don’t hide those.
[/blush]

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:15:54pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:16:26pm

Banishment. That’s what needs to happen with the GOP. Banishment from power until they can get their heads out of their asses.

Banishment

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dangerman  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:17:23pm

re: #269 Belafon

They can win, but let’s not kid ourselves. Cruz didn’t win because he was the better candidate. Neither did Perry or Abbott.

Of course
I’m just saying a good dem candidate can sometimes beat a bad or mediocre rep if the dem actually runs

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:17:42pm

re: #272 Kragar

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“At the White House” being the key words. You can be sure Republicans not at the White House are presently freaking the fuck out that they may lose this race by a handful of votes in a district where they should have been able to run a pet rock and expect to coast to victory.

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:17:45pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:18:16pm

re: #270 Big Beautiful Door

99% of Westmoreland is now in, and Lamb still has a lead of 918

And the difference appears to be smaller than what the Libertarian candidate Drew Miller has gotten.

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jaunte  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:19:36pm
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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:20:05pm

re: #272 Kragar

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That comment the other day where Republicans said this was a Dem district, that was for Trump.

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Targetpractice  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:20:42pm

re: #278 jaunte

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In other words, if the PA GOP truly want to dispute this, then it’s at their cost and will likely burn up resources they don’t have on a district that won’t be there next year.

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Belafon  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:21:03pm

re: #278 jaunte

Now I’m confused by #221.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:21:05pm
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BlueGrl21  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:21:13pm

re: #256 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

This is becoming more relevant to me as I’m in the process of moving back into the traditional IT organizational role. I only hope I can get into a position with enough seniority that I can safely tell the executive, “Go fuck yourself,” and not immediately get tossed on my ass.

I’m in the “go fuck yourself” position, but I have to say it nicely. So, it becomes, “If you want that it’s X amount of sprints (I’m an agile coach). If you want Y we can do it in X sprints. No, we cannot change the laws of physics and have 5 developers build that in 2 months. Feel free to fire us all.”

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stpaulbear  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:21:14pm

Just had a very cool experience.

I went to The Electric Fetus, one of the best LP/CD and gift stores in the Twin Cities this evening to pick up the new James Hunter CD. I walked through the door into the store and man something sure sounded familiar…

They were playing the EP by the band I was in in the late 70’s-early 80’s. They had a used copy and someone decided they wanted to hear what it sounded like. The whole record is only about 18 minutes long so it was pretty amazing that I walked in just as they started playing it. I gave the clerks the history of the record and then tried to remember what I’d come to the store for in the first place.

They followed up our EP with a rap record with the word “fuck” featured heavily in the lyrics. They may have been trying to purge the “new wave” vibes from the store. It was a cool moment anyway. I remembered James Hunter and came home with the new CD. It’s playing now and it’s also very cool.

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:21:19pm

re: #262 dangerman

And by good I mean Jones, lamb, anymouse

Hear, hear!

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:22:13pm

re: #272 Kragar

Because of the mighty effort by our Lord and Saviour Donald Trump we

1) Won the race even though the candidate was terrible
2) Nearly won a race that should have been a blowout for the Democrat with all the voter fraud they committed.

Trump can and will never lose with these people.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:22:55pm
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jaunte  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:23:02pm

re: #281 Belafon

Maybe if the top election official has to order the recount it isn’t considered ‘automatic.’

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weave  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:24:19pm

After this night, Republicans should be all for impeaching and removing Trump. He’s clearly going to destroy their party. Obviously the tax cut trick isn’t even helping, and they had to have been banking on that.

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jaunte  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:24:29pm
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Schweppes7  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:24:53pm

Lamb up by .2% with 98% in per NYT.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:25:22pm
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dangerman  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:26:15pm

re: #283 BlueGrl21

I’m in the “go fuck yourself” position, but I have to say it nicely. So, it becomes, “If you want that it’s X amount of sprints (I’m an agile coach). If you want Y we can do it in X sprints. No, we cannot change the laws of physics and have 5 developers build that in 2 months. Feel free to fire us all.”

I used to say please tell me which laws of space and time to break to get this done on your schedule?

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electrotek  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:26:29pm
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dangerman  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:27:01pm

re: #285 MsJ

Hear, hear!

Oh and mom Anon. She brings snacks

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:29:39pm

re: #289 weave

I believe the Repubicans (see what I did there?) are on the record as saying there will be no major legislation this year, and that they are going to “let the tax cuts speak for themselves.”

Good luck with that, dickheads.

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jaunte  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:30:11pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:31:01pm

re: #297 Ace Rothstein

I believe the Repubicans are on the record as saying there will be no major legislation this year, and that they are going to “let the tax cuts speak for themselves.”

Good luck with that, dickheads.

Oh dear. The 2018 mid-terms are going to be a very, very painful lesson.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:31:09pm

re: #289 weave

After this night, Republicans should be all for impeaching and removing Trump. He’s clearly going to destroy their party. Obviously the tax cut trick isn’t even helping, and they had to have been banking on that.

I wouldn’t bank on that.

Remember, the GOP was hacked as well as the DNC. The GOP information has not been released.

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calochortus  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:31:31pm

re: #299 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh dear. The 2018 mid-terms are going to be a very, very painful lesson.

So we hope.

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jaunte  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:32:16pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:33:10pm

re: #283 BlueGrl21

I’m in the “go fuck yourself” position, but I have to say it nicely. So, it becomes, “If you want that it’s X amount of sprints (I’m an agile coach). If you want Y we can do it in X sprints. No, we cannot change the laws of physics and have 5 developers build that in 2 months. Feel free to fire us all.”

We had to have those conversations with our clients, but when it got to the, “We cannot change the laws of physics” part of the conversation, we were able to punt to the executives upstairs to beat some sense into them. Now that I’m finding a new job, though, I’m likely to be the guy to have to have that conversation directly, which scares the bejeezus out of me.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:33:12pm

I’ve been glued to the TV hoping against hope that Conor wins.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:33:44pm

re: #299 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Nothing is too painful for them, in my view.

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dangerman  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:34:34pm

re: #297 Ace Rothstein

I believe the Repubicans are on the record as saying there will be no major legislation this year, and that they are going to “let the tax cuts speak for themselves.”

Good luck with that, dickheads.

Oh well take the paychecks
We’re just not gonna do any work

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:34:39pm

LOL.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:35:18pm

re: #300 Anymouse 🌹

I wouldn’t bank on that.

Remember, the GOP was hacked as well as the DNC. The GOP information has not been released.

And Putin is using that to blackmail Republicans!

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:35:29pm
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electrotek  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:37:53pm

Is it safe to say that Stormy Daniels has eclipsed Lisa Ann in popularity among political circles?

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teleskiguy  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:39:46pm
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dangerman  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:40:00pm

Apologies cause I just got here and not staying long

Trump is considering firing VA secretary and putting Perry there?

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:40:34pm

re: #310 electrotek

Yes.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:40:47pm

re: #312 dangerman

Unfortunately, yes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:41:30pm

re: #304 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’ve been glued to the TV hoping against hope that Conor wins.

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dangerman  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:43:33pm

re: #314 Ace Rothstein

Unfortunately, yes.

I’m surprised
I’m not surprised
Should I be surprised?
Maybe I’ll just go to bed. It’s safer there

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:44:23pm

re: #310 electrotek

Is it safe to say that Stormy Daniels has eclipsed Lisa Ann in popularity among political circles?

Who is Lisa Ann?

Apparently Westmoreland County needs to find a box of ballots in a closet like they did in Wisconsin… .

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:45:27pm

re: #317 Anymouse 🌹

She did the “Nailin’ Paylin”…. movie. So I’ve heard.

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The Major  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:45:44pm
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electrotek  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:46:28pm

re: #318 GlutenFreeJesus

She did the “Nailin’ Paylin”…. movie. So I’ve heard.

She’s been retired for a while now.

Don’t ask me how I know all this.

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calochortus  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:46:44pm

re: #314 Ace Rothstein

Unfortunately, yes.

So who would replace Perry in his current job? Or will we just end up with 3 or 4 people doing all the jobs by themselves?

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The Major  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:47:43pm

So - Trump fired Tillerson for not eating salad?
msn.com

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The Major  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:50:05pm
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Patricia Kayden  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:50:14pm

Kind of sad that Lamb is neck and neck with a creep like Saccone. Oh well.

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electrotek  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:50:42pm

Why do far-right douchebags have a fetish for women from the Orient?

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calochortus  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:51:33pm

re: #325 electrotek

Why do far-right douchebags have a fetish for women from the Orient?

They think they’ll be subservient to them.

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The Major  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:52:11pm

re: #301 calochortus

Let’s hope so…..
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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:52:15pm

re: #322 The Major

So - Trump fired Tillerson for not eating salad?
msn.com

Bet it had fresh cracked pulonium seasoning.

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electrotek  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:54:03pm

re: #326 calochortus

They think they’ll be subservient to them.

And yet they have the same exact mindset as many conservative Muslim men from experience.

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The Major  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:54:28pm

re: #325 electrotek

Why do far-right douchebags have a fetish for women from the Orient?

Let’s see who this list contains….

Phil Gramm
Mitch McConnell
Chuck C. “The Rage Furby” Johnson
John Derbyshire

I’m sure there’s others….

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:54:57pm

Allegheny County says they are now counting all of their absentee ballots for release tonight. That could do it.

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electrotek  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:55:23pm

re: #330 The Major

Let’s see who this list contains….

Phil Gramm
Mitch McConnell
Chuck C. “The Rage Furby” Johnson
John Derbyshire

I’m sure there’s others….

Remember that Kurdish bro I called out a couple of months ago?

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The Major  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:55:26pm

re: #329 electrotek

And yet they have the same exact mindset as many conservative Muslim men from experience.

And yet - Iran has their “temporary marriage” thing….go figure.

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The Major  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:56:22pm

re: #332 electrotek

Remember that Kurdish bro I called out a couple of months ago?

Sadly, I forgot - what this on Twitter?

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:56:56pm

re: #331 austin_blue

Allegheny County says they are now counting all of their absentee ballots for release tonight. That could do it.

CNN reporting that Lamb’s lead in the live vote down to 95!

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electrotek  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:56:58pm

re: #333 The Major

And yet - Iran has their “temporary marriage” thing….go figure.

Not just Iran, it’s common with a lot of Shi’a communities. Mutah as it’s called (or sigeh) in Iran.

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:57:00pm

99% of the vote in. Lamb up by 95 votes.

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:57:10pm

re: #294 electrotek

This is my favorite part of that Clarke article:

Known for his outspoken views in defence of police, Clarke became the Make America Great Again movement’s tactical response to Black Lives Matter. He called Black Lives Matter a ‘terror organization’ in his memoir and predicted they would join forces with Isis. In late 2016, he was, according to the Daily Beast, part of a delegation sent by the National Rifle Association to Russia that met Dmitry Rogozin, Deputy Prime Minister of Russia on Defense and Space Industry. In January it was reported that the FBI was investigating the trip.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2018 • 7:59:38pm

re: #337 austin_blue

99% of the vote in. Lamb up by 95 votes.

It is all GOTV. Drive em, bus em, grab them outta their houses & get them to vote.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:02:02pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:02:23pm
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Interesting Times  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:04:25pm
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ipsos  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:04:37pm

Lamb just jumped back up by 847 votes.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:04:44pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:08:22pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:08:44pm

I just ran an Excel model of all 2016 Congressional races and if all of them shifted by the same margin as PA-18 did tonight the Democrats would gain 81 seats in November…

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:09:14pm

3206 absentee ballots remain to be counted with Lamb up 847!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:09:18pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:10:46pm

re: #348 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Right now, Mikey is squeezing Mommy tighter than Mr. Whipple squeezes a pack of Charmin!

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:11:48pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:11:54pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:12:59pm

re: #320 electrotek

She’s been retired for a while now.

Don’t ask me how I know all this.

How do you know all this? (It had to be asked with a straight line like that.)

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:14:23pm

CNN reporting that Republicans say there will be a recount either way.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:14:34pm

re: #346 Joe Bacon 🌹

I just ran an Excel sheet of all 2016 Congressional races and if all of them shifted by the same margin as PA-18 did tonight the Democrats would gain 81 seats in November…

You might do better to look at the aggregate of all of the special elections since the 2016 generals. While PA-18 looks like it’s going to come down to the wire, which amounts to a more or less +20 Democrat shift, I think the overall trend is a bit shy of that.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:14:51pm

Frothy insights

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:15:34pm

As to a recount I know here in Philadelphia County if the amount of votes that separate the winner from the loser is less than ten thousand it is an automatic recount. The rest of the state might have slightly different rules but with a race as close as this one expect to see a recount.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:15:42pm

re: #350 goddamnedfrank

If you’re a GOP Congressman right now you’re thinking a lot about how Republicans tend to do much better in special elections than in generals.

The GOP has every reason to be exceedingly nervous, even if Lamb loses; if a +20 GOP district can be decided by less than 1%, then none of their “safe” districts are as safe as they may have believed.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:15:48pm

re: #355 goddamnedfrank

Frothy insights

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I think part of this district used to be his.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:16:20pm

Somebody sharing their love for ol’ Prick Santorum!

Let’s all show the same amount of love to ol’ Prick

And I still remember when Prick made the fatal mistake of knocking on Mom’s door when he was running for Senator and Mom called him an asshole and slammed the door in his face!

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:16:21pm

re: #355 goddamnedfrank

Frothy insights

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Didn’t he used to be a politician?

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:17:47pm

re: #357 Dr Lizardo

The GOP has every reason to be exceedingly nervous, even if Lamb loses; if a +20 GOP district can be decided by less than 1%, then none of their “safe” districts are as safe as they may have believed.

Definitely gives me hope about my district. We went for HRC. But Comstock likes to play independent and the WaPo falls for it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:18:27pm

re: #360 Decatur Deb

Didn’t he used to be a politician?

He was always an asshole. I still have treasured memories of Pitt back in 1977 when Prick was at a house party trying to pick up girls and two girls found him so repulsive they slapped his face!

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:18:52pm

re: #359 Joe Bacon 🌹

Somebody sharing their love for ol’ Prick Santorum!

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And I still remember when Prick made the fatal mistake of knocking on Mom’s door when he was running for Senator and Mom called him an asshole and slammed the door in his face!

Reminds me of my grandfather telling off Ollie North at a festival. All Grandpa told him was Robb’s gotcha.

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makeitstop  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:19:16pm

re: #356 PhillyPretzel

As to a recount I know here in Philadelphia County if the amount of votes that separate the winner from the loser is less than ten thousand it is an automatic recount. The rest of the state might have slightly different rules but with a race as close as this one expect to see a recount.

Someone quoted a Jake Tapper tweet earlier that said there are no automatic recounts in district elections.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:19:22pm

re: #358 HappyWarrior

I think part of this district used to be his.

All of it used to be (he was a Senator).

I’m off to bed, to dream of a Democratic victory; I have to take a water sample to Scottsbluff tomorrow. G’night y’all.

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:19:30pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:19:53pm

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:21:20pm

re: #366 MsJ

All the sane sounding ones are always “former” something. I wonder why that is?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:21:25pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:22:00pm
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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:22:19pm

re: #368 Skip Intro

All the sane sounding ones are always “former” something. I wonder why that is?

No fear to face the lunatic GOP base?

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:23:10pm

re: #364 makeitstop

This is so far a very close race. And while most counties have been counted keep in mind that the absentee ballots have yet to be counted and the election officials must validate it.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:23:21pm

re: #370 goddamnedfrank

I mean, really, why should we bother with those dumbass working-class voters?

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:23:42pm

re: #371 HappyWarrior

Something like that, I guess.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:26:04pm

re: #374 Skip Intro

Something like that, I guess.

It’s definitely why I think former R office holders feel comfortable criticizing the party in the age of Trump.

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:31:36pm

PSA.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:32:31pm

How did the vote split in the Moscow district go?

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Skip Intro  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:32:45pm

Local Moron Now Claims Mexico Border Wall Will “Pay for Itself”

Quoting a line from a story tweeted by Fox News, Trump wrote on Twitter that, “According to the Center for Immigration Studies, the $18 billion wall will pay for itself by curbing the importation of crime, drugs, and illegal immigrants who tend to go on the federal dole …” For those who are unaware, the Center for Immigration Studies is a group that “favors far lower immigration numbers and produces research to further those views.” Some of its greatest hits include a thoroughly panned claim that “immigrant households receive 41 percent more federal welfare than households headed by native-born citizens,” and another that immigrants are to blame for global warming. Unsurprisingly, it is a favorite source for members of the Trump administration, particularly senior adviser Stephen “White males should be a protected class” Miller and Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who was accused on Tuesday by an outgoing ICE official of making “false” and “misleading” statements about immigration, or what he presumably calls “that scourge on society.”

Vanity Fair

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Bass Reeves  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:32:49pm

re: #373 Decatur Deb

I mean, really, why should we bother with those dumbass working-class voters?

I mean, really, why do we keep meaning ‘white males’ when we say ‘working class voters’? Maybe if we fixed that, we would realize we never stopped ‘bothering’ with them.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:33:42pm

re: #377 Unshaken Defiance

How did the vote split in the Moscow district go?

98% party, 2% nerve gas.

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:34:35pm

re: #379 Bass Reeves

I mean, really, why do we keep meaning ‘white males’ when we say ‘working class voters’? Maybe if we fixed that, we would realize we never stopped ‘bothering’ with them.

Word!!!!

And yes, the pie is big enough.
Shout out to the Lily Leadbetter Act.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:34:56pm

re: #379 Bass Reeves

I mean, really, why do we keep meaning ‘white males’ when we say ‘working class voters’? Maybe if we fixed that, we would realize we never stopped ‘bothering’ with them.

I’m fine with trying to reach them. I’m not fine with throwing key members of our coalition under the bus to do so.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:36:15pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:37:00pm

re: #379 Bass Reeves

I mean, really, why do we keep meaning ‘white males’ when we say ‘working class voters’? Maybe if we fixed that, we would realize we never stopped ‘bothering’ with them.

This is the leadership of SEIU— 2,000,000 voters. Let’s play “Find the Token”.

seiu.org

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:37:01pm
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MsJ  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:38:38pm

re: #378 Skip Intro

Local Moron Now Claims Mexico Border Wall Will “Pay for Itself”

Vanity Fair

The Iraq war redux.

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ipsos  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:39:46pm

re: #383 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Fuck this guy.

Fuck this guy so much.

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Bass Reeves  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:40:10pm

re: #384 Decatur Deb

This is the leadership of SEIU— 2,000,000 voters. Let’s play “Find the Token”.

seiu.org

I…am…TRULY sorry that you may not find yourself represented enough in society?

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:40:35pm
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Ace Rothstein  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:40:43pm

If Lamb can pull this off in a Trump +20 district, JFC, think of all the pissed off women in suburban districts in November.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:41:00pm

re: #388 Bass Reeves

I…am…TRULY sorry that you may not find yourself represented enough in society?

Union shop steward? Yeah, there aren’t enough of us.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:43:16pm

re: #391 Decatur Deb

Union shop steward? Yeah, there aren’t enough of us.

Heh. My dad was a shop steward. BC&T Local 37 in Southern California. BC&T is now BCTGM; that union is still around.

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gwangung  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:43:21pm

re: #325 electrotek

Why do far-right douchebags have a fetish for women from the Orient?

Racists have Orientalist fetishes.

But I repeat myself.

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jaunte  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:44:52pm

re: #383 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“Too many people are entering national parks for free”

— Teddy Roosevelt

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:45:06pm

re: #392 Dr Lizardo

Heh. My dad was a shop steward. BC&T Local 37 in Southern California. BC&T is now BCTGM; that union is still around.

Second shift, Line 1, IUE 761—biggest local east of the Mississippi.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:45:16pm

re: #385 JordanRules

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It won’t be though.

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:47:28pm

re: #396 HappyWarrior

Yeah. They don’t have the best learning curve.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:48:23pm

Saccone walked off to Eminem. LOL

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:48:32pm

Damn

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:50:09pm

re: #325 electrotek

Why do far-right douchebags have a fetish for women from the Orient?

A commonly-given reason is that “Western women” aren’t any good because they’ve become all non-compliant because of nasssttyy feminism. Where as “Oriental” women still “respect” men*.

* read: these dudes like to pick up desperate women in developing countries who will put up with their shit.

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gwangung  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:58:52pm

re: #400 The Ghost of a Flea

* read: these dudes like to pick up desperate women in developing countries who will put up with their shit.

At least until they get the marriage done. In a lot of countries, it’s the women who control the pocketbook and run the household….

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William Lewis  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:02:49pm

re: #399 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Damn

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I can’t be too sad. That’s one hell of a run for someone expected to be dead decades ago. Thank you for everything, sir.

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:12:51pm

re: #399 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Damn

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Fuck me. This small part of the Universe has lost a very special human.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:15:45pm

re: #401 gwangung

I didn’t say anything about marriage. I said “pick up.”

When they do find someone to marry it’s generally about mutual usage, because he’s a man-baby that can’t actually stand mutuality and living with someone cracks open the idea of an inherent dominance for men, but also can’t stand to be alone; and because she’s just resolved that this is the solution to several problems.


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