The Bob Cesca Show: Operation Big Crap

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Operation Big Crap: NSFW;Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; The madness continues; Tillerson fired possibly because he blamed Russia for UK attack; Under Sec of State also fired; Trump’s personal aide fired; Election Day in PA-18; Mike Pompeo promoted to State Dept; Trump’s big boy pants; Exxon Mobil and Rosneft; Another Russian exile assassinated in England; House Intelligence Committee ends Russia investigation; Adam Schiff Don’t Play; Trump’s North Korea folly; Don Junior loves ice cream; and much more.

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632 comments

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Charles Johnson  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:49:02pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:51:06pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:51:36pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

All kinds of loss.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:53:33pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:55:21pm

You know, having only really ever know Dr Hawking as an intellectual and communicator, I hope there’s another story where he just had a hell of a lot of fun.

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jaunte  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:56:45pm

“He once said, ‘It would not be much of a universe if it wasn’t home to the people you love.’”

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:58:35pm

re: #6 jaunte

“He once said, ‘It would not be much of a universe if it wasn’t home to the people you love.’”

Yep. Rip to him. He was a genius but also a tough sob through and through.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 13, 2018 • 8:59:32pm

Dog dies after United flight attendant forces it into overhead bin
Reading between the lines of United’s statement, they have fired the attendant or will do so shortly. She needs jail time.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:01:46pm

The Libertarian running in the PA-18th

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prairiefire  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:03:12pm

re: #5 The Ghost of a Flea

You know, having only really ever know Dr Hawking as an intellectual and communicator, I hope there’s another story where he just had a hell of a lot of fun.

I’ve heard he enjoyed strip clubs.
He said in an interview that he regretted not working as a biologist working on mapping the human genome as he thought this about the most relevant issue.
RIP, a very inspirational man.

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jaunte  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:04:57pm
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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:06:03pm

re: #11 jaunte

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We have close races like this all the time.

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ipsos  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:06:19pm

I will forever be grateful to Dr. Hawking for spending his last hours on earth driving the back roads of southwest Pennsylvania casting 577 fake votes for Conor Lamb.

//

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:07:20pm

What did he know about Seth Rich?

(Damn. I’m bummed about this loss.)

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William Lewis  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:07:21pm

I CL’d my response last thread to the Hawking news. But it’s really quite simple: I can’t be too sad. That’s one hell of a run for someone expected to be dead decades ago. Thank you for everything, sir.

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gwangung  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:07:42pm

re: #10 prairiefire

I’ve heard he enjoyed strip clubs.

Gawd, that reminds me of a sketch that Mike Daisey did about Hawking and Christopher Reeve. Totally un-PC, but funny as hell…(and I’d like to think Prof. Hawking would have liked it too…)

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:10:30pm
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ipsos  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:11:14pm

The scriptwriters on Big Bang Theory will need some fresh ideas now.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:13:40pm

Watching dawn break at Freep. It’s cold and gray.

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ipsos  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:15:00pm

re: #19 Decatur Deb

Watching dawn break at Freep. It’s cold and gray.

The tears, they are delicious, are they not?

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:15:36pm

re: #20 ipsos

The tears, they are delicious, are they not?

So grudgingly provided.

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prairiefire  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:18:09pm

re: #19 Decatur Deb

Watching dawn break at Freep. It’s cold and gray.

Wich one is that?

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prairiefire  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:19:07pm

re: #21 Decatur Deb

Say Kay w/o linkkay

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MsJ  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:19:18pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:19:21pm

re: #22 prairiefire

Wich one is that?

In their sidebar, seems to have stopped short of 800 comments.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:20:23pm

Glad this one was won no matter how close. Blue wave.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:21:21pm

re: #23 prairiefire

Say Kay w/o linkkay

As much as possible, I don’t touch articles—just read Google’s cache.

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William Lewis  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:21:33pm

re: #19 Decatur Deb

Watching dawn break at Freep. It’s cold and gray.

I don’t know, considering their current love for Russia, I would expect their dawns to be Red…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:25:24pm

Great work to see Conor flip so many precincts!

AND

Saccone failed to flip a single precinct!

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:25:41pm

re: #28 William Lewis

Eh.

I say Russia is Pink these days, because it’s like the worse of Tsarism and Communism baked together.

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prairiefire  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:29:26pm

There are many liberal tear drinkers at breitfart currently

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:29:42pm

re: #4 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

A friend of my wife got caught in that attack. We visited her in the hospital right afterwards

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allegro  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:30:17pm

What an excellent birthday present!

Perfect end to a perfect day. :)

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:30:22pm
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blueraven  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:33:29pm

re: #33 allegro

What an excellent birthday present!

Perfect end to a perfect day. :)

Happy Birthday, Allegro!

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:33:35pm

re: #33 allegro

What an excellent birthday present!

Perfect end to a perfect day. :)

Yay!!!
Happy Birthday!!!!!!

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:34:16pm
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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:34:45pm

re: #33 allegro

What an excellent birthday present!

Perfect end to a perfect day. :)

Happy birthday, and many more!

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prairiefire  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:35:40pm

re: #33 allegro

What an excellent birthday present!

Perfect end to a perfect day. :)

Yay, the power of the allegro! Happy Birthday!

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:36:17pm

re: #33 allegro

What an excellent birthday present!

Perfect end to a perfect day. :)

Many more—of both.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:38:03pm

Awkward.

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Mattand  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:38:15pm

re: #37 Kragar

But where will he find such a tiny, tiny knife?

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JordanRules  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:40:25pm
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allegro  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:41:14pm

Thankyouthankyouthankyou…

I made it to 65! :D

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prairiefire  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:42:42pm

re: #44 allegro

Boom! Hey, is that when all the government gravy kicks in?/

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allegro  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:43:27pm

re: #45 prairiefire

Boom! Hey, is that when all the government gravy kicks in?/

It is! I gots Medicare now!

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:43:36pm
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Jay C  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:43:41pm

re: #44 allegro

Thankyouthankyouthankyou…

I made it to 65! :D

Mazel Tov!!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:44:37pm

Couple friends at the Lamb Victory Party texted me that Saccone conceded…

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:45:47pm

About the 17-year old black kid who got blown up today:

Draylen Mason

Mason was the “most remarkable talent in a most remarkable youth orchestra program called Austin Sound Waves,” said Doug Dempster, dean of the College of Fine Arts at UT Austin, KXAN reported.

The Austin Sound Waves program offers free music instruction to artistically underserved children.

“At Sound Waves performances one could often see him leaning in to lead and coach younger and more tentative players,” Dempster told KXAN.

“His gentle confidence seemed to come from a conviction that hard work and talent was going to work for him. It did.”

“From everything I’ve heard about Draylen, he was an outstanding young man who was going places with his life, and it’s an absolute tragedy that he’s no longer with us,” Austin Police Chief Brian Manley told reporters.
_______________________

He had been accepted to The Butler School of Music at UT.

He was the Principal Bassist in the Austin Youth Symphony Orchestra.

His family knew the parents of the black man killed earlier this month.

The other grievously wounded woman today was a 75 year old Abuelita from east Austin.

I don’t know who this fucker is, but he’s going to burn when he’s caught.

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Mattand  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:46:55pm

re: #50 austin_blue

God, I hate humanity sometimes.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:46:56pm

re: #47 Kragar

SOURCE CLOSE TO SPEAKER PAUL RYAN:

Speaker Paul Ryan feels hot ironworker breath on the back of his neck, and it’s not for a reach-around.

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:48:37pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:49:51pm

re: #4 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

As usual, I have to register my opposition to the death penalty. I am not going to burn up the internet or get on a plane for Tokyo to try to save these bastards, however. Sucks to be them.

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:50:44pm

re: #52 Decatur Deb

Speaker Paul Ryan feels hot ironworker breath on the back of his neck, and it’s not for a reach-around.

I read the tweet and your response and She Who Must Be Obeyed ran back to the bathroom. Which is good, as I am not covered by a toothpaste spit-take.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:51:19pm

re: #53 Kragar

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Wailing and gnashing of teeth in MAGAland.
I propose a toast:

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William Lewis  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:52:36pm

re: #54 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Excellent way to phrase it. I agree completely.

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plansbandc  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:53:12pm

re: #44 allegro

Happy Birthday!!

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:53:14pm
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Jay C  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:53:30pm

re: #47 Kragar

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What a crock! I take crap like this from the Esteemed Idiot Speaker to mean that not only can every Democrat in the country replicate Conor Lamb’s victory, but that they probably WILL in November. I’d love to see Ayn Ryan reduced to a powerless back-bencher in the next Congress- or better yet, a new status: “ex-Congressman”

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:54:15pm

re: #59 Kragar

Full response: “no”.

LOL.

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Single-handed sailor  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:56:07pm

Fox News is still holding out for a recount.

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:56:26pm

re: #61 Dr Lizardo

LOL.

Hmmm…how will be PA-18 be redrawn? Can they make it harder for Lamb to win in November?

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2018 • 9:57:47pm
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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:00:39pm

re: #62 Single-handed sailor

Fox News is still holding out for a recount.

They can hold out for a meteor in the head, but it won’t change this result. The better candidate won because his message, his campaign, and his GOTV was better.

A lot of R Congresscritters have yellow and brown pants tonight.

And they stink worse than ever.

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retired cynic  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:02:06pm

I did send a few bucks his way. Wish it could have been more. Got a postcard of thanks yesterday, and this tonight:

I just left the stage at our Election Night party in Canonsburg, and I want to let you know that I am in awe of you and what you helped accomplish. I can’t thank you enough.

Throughout this incredible journey, you showed what’s possible when working people unite to fight back against politicians who work for special interests instead of us. Together, we won the special election with hard work and a promise to leave no one behind.

I’m honored and humbled to be the next Representative for the people of Pennsylvania’s 18th District.

I can promise you three things when I go to Washington: I will always listen to you. I will always seek results. And I will never forget that the only people I work for are my constituents.

I will go to Congress with strong convictions and an open mind.

My only bias is the one they taught us in the Marines: a bias for action. I’ll go to Congress to do the work you sent me there to do. I’ll work to protect Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, to make healthcare more affordable, to bring back good jobs by rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure, and to fight the heroin epidemic that has devastated too many families.

There are some who say we can’t do all these things. They are wrong — just as they were wrong about our chances of winning this election. Together, we can do all of this and more.

So our work is just beginning, and I can’t wait to see what we accomplish together next.

Let’s celebrate tonight’s victory for working people and then get to work on winning the general election this November.

Thank you,

Conor

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:06:34pm

re: #47 Kragar

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Can’t wait to see the excuse when Ryan himself loses.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:07:07pm

And if today didn’t have enough good news…

Alex Jones is being sued!

A counterprotester at the deadly white supremacist rally last year in Charlottesville, Va., is suing the media outlet Infowars, its owner Alex Jones and seven others for defamation.

Georgetown Law’s Civil Rights Clinic filed the lawsuit Tuesday in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Virginia on behalf of Brennan Gilmore, who alleges that Alex Jones and other far-right supporters, including former Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.), published stories about him that damaged his reputation and mobilized an army of followers to pursue a campaign of harassment and threats against him.

Gilmore argues he became the target of elaborate online conspiracies that placed him at the center of a “deep-state” plot to stage the Charlottesville attack and destabilize the Trump administration after he posted a video he captured on Twitter of the car attack that killed Heather Heyer and injured 36 others.

And he’s also suing Allen West!

thehill.com

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:07:48pm

re: #66 retired cynic

I got the same email — you left out the red “donate” button at the bottom. :)

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prairiefire  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:07:56pm

re: #63 austin_blue

Hmmm…how will be PA-18 be redrawn? Can they make it harder for Lamb to win in November?

All new proposed maps going forward favor dems, so I read.

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retired cynic  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:08:31pm

re: #69 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I got the same email — you left out the red “donate” button at the bottom. :)

Ah, yes!

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:09:43pm

re: #63 austin_blue

Hmmm…how will be PA-18 be redrawn? Can they make it harder for Lamb to win in November?

PA-18 will cease to exist as of November, IIRC. This was basically just a placeholder election.

The redrawn maps favor the Democrats going forward.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:10:02pm

Off to work. Have a good one, Lizards.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:11:03pm

re: #63 austin_blue

Hmmm…how will be PA-18 be redrawn? Can they make it harder for Lamb to win in November?

Conor will be in the new 17th District facing GOP incumbent Keith Rothfus

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fern01  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:11:21pm

re: #62 Single-handed sailor

Fox News is still holding out for a recount.

Not sure where to confirm but I heard that the machines in pa do not produce security/verifying paper so the main recounting will be on provisional/absentee votes.
All that can be checked from the machines are the totals

Someone just talking on MSNBC just said the GOP will be demanding every absentee be checked for validity.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:12:41pm

re: #74 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:14:23pm

re: #76 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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The Party Committees will be pissed off at Saccone for blowing the election and they may endorse another candidate.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:16:20pm

I’m just waiting for tomorrow mornings pearls of wis-DUMB emanating from Tweetler about Saccone’s loss. I’m sure there will be a flurry of voter fraud allegations to start off with…

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retired cynic  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:16:21pm

re: #77 Joe Bacon 🌹

The Party Committees will be pissed off at Saccone for blowing the election and they may endorse another candidate.

True, but how can it be his fault? He had DT throw that big rally for him, and DT backed candidates never lose, right?

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:16:46pm

re: #77 Joe Bacon 🌹

I could see him being primaried by some MAGA jackass

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blueraven  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:17:20pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:17:29pm

re: #79 retired cynic

True, but how can it be his fault? He had DT throw that big rally for him, and DT backed candidates never lose, right?

Saccone barely got the GOP nod and the woman he defeated offered just lukewarm support.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:17:55pm

re: #80 Kragar

I could see him being primaried by some MAGA jackass

Someone a bigger jackass than him? Oh wait, remembers Arizona primary.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:18:20pm

I can guarantee you that tomorrow Trump will throw a wrench into PA18 by saying “many people are saying there was voter fraud”. Just watch.

Anyway. Hi Paul Ryan.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:18:54pm

re: #83 HappyWarrior

Someone a bigger jackass than him? Oh wait, remembers Arizona primary.

Happy, I’m from Western PA, Oh I still remember George Wallace Democrats like Frank Rizzo and Martin Mullen…

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:21:10pm

re: #84 GlutenFreeJesus

I can guarantee you that tomorrow Trump will throw a wrench into PA18 by saying “many people are saying there was voter fraud”. Just watch.

Anyway. Hi Paul Ryan.

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Ryan has no idea what he’s talking about and I bet is afraid he could be among the unemployed after November. Makes me wonder who’d replace him as GOP house leader since McCarthy was in line but then his mouth got in the way and Scalise, well it would fit the Trump GOP to make a guy who wanted to out Duke David Duke in charge.

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:21:43pm
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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:21:50pm

re: #85 Joe Bacon 🌹

Happy, I’m from Western PA, Oh I still remember George Wallace Democrats like Frank Rizzo and Martin Mullen…

I know. It’s just wow Saccone was a huge ass.

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:24:09pm

re: #84 GlutenFreeJesus

I can guarantee you that tomorrow Trump will throw a wrench into PA18 by saying “many people are saying there was voter fraud”. Just watch.

Anyway. Hi Paul Ryan.

[Embedded content]

That had to hurt.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:25:52pm

Well, not a bad way to end the day. Good night, all.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:26:49pm

Like Jones I’m AL we are going to have temper expectations for Lamb but he can still be a valuable voice and he’s one step closer to a majority.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:31:52pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:32:33pm

CNN refusing to call it for Lamb, though they did report he declared himself the victor.

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Kragar  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:32:35pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:33:51pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:33:55pm

Also, re: Stephen Hawking

If you haven’t seen The Theory of Everything, I HIGHLY recommend it. Excellent film and the actor who played Hawking was phenomenal.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:35:22pm

Regarding Hawking. One of my favorite non science memories of him was when a smug conservative tried to tell him with socialized medicine he’d be long dead. He reminded them he’d been a beneficiary of NHS for years. He’ll be missed. I’ve actually been watching videos about space lately and it’s infinitely fascinating. RIP Stephen, thanks for inspiring so many not just through science but through ALS too.

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retired cynic  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:35:34pm

re: #96 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, re: Stephen Hawking

If you haven’t seen The Theory of Everything, I HIGHLY recommend it. Excellent film and the actor who played Hawking was phenomenal.

Newt Scamander.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:39:29pm

re: #96 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, re: Stephen Hawking

If you haven’t seen The Theory of Everything, I HIGHLY recommend it. Excellent film and the actor who played Hawking was phenomenal.

Eddie Redmayne. Won an Oscar for it. Still need to see this.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:42:55pm

Fun fact: Hawking once had to subscribe to Penthouse for a year after losing a bet to another scientist.

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:45:38pm

re: #99 HappyWarrior

Eddie Redmayne. Won an Oscar for it. Still need to see this.

Eddie is really, really, good in that role. He’s a fine actor and deserved to win the Oscar.

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retired cynic  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:51:23pm

re: #101 austin_blue

Eddie is really, really, good in that role. He’s a fine actor and deserved to win the Oscar.

I need to see that, too. I did enjoy him as Newt Scamander in Fantastical Beasts…

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2018 • 10:55:16pm

re: #95 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Statistically, the race is over, CNN.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 13, 2018 • 11:03:52pm

re: #103 austin_blue

Statistically, the race is over, CNN.

Does it really surprise you they’ll milk the “too close to call” shit for as long as they can?

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 13, 2018 • 11:08:39pm

Nice.

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austin_blue  Mar 13, 2018 • 11:09:14pm

re: #104 Eclectic Cyborg

Does it really surprise you they’ll milk the “too close to call” shit for as long as they can?

Of course not, but it’s not really true, doesn’t serve the public good, and it’s pretty much fake news. When they do things like this, Drumpf’s fever dreams get traction. It’s just just a stupid business plan when you consider the consequences.

It would be as if the headline read “Steven Hawking May Still Be Alive, At Least In A Hypothetical Multiverse”.

(edited to make it germane)

And I’m off to bed. Night all!

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:09:19am

Jesus, she’s a fucking monster.

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fern01  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:17:18am

re: #107 goddamnedfrank

Jesus, she’s a fucking monster.

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And the media is saying it was all because of the times - 9/11 and all that. And they will not call it torture - which is exactly what it was.

I hope they drag her over it again and again if she comes up for confirmation.

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Single-handed sailor  Mar 14, 2018 • 1:20:46am

//I couldn’t trim that image any more to make 500k limit if I had to.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 14, 2018 • 1:33:55am

re: #107 goddamnedfrank

The medical personnel who participated in torture should also face scrutiny. Then we wonder why so many foreigners hate Americans.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2018 • 1:57:47am

Fox News spreading flagrant lies about undocumented immigrants.

Half the problem is that right wingers are fundamentally ignorant about the basics of immigration, immigration law, and the net positive impact that documented and undocumented immigrants have on our economy and society.

The other half of the problem is that their ignorance is deliberate.

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boredtechindenver  Mar 14, 2018 • 2:28:07am

MSNBC just said Lamb is Likely Winner, with some absentee, military and provisional ballots left to be counted.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2018 • 2:31:46am

re: #112 boredtechindenver

MSNBC just said Lamb is Likely Winner, with some absentee, military and provisional ballots left to be counted.

So much winning from Trump, we’ll get tired of it.

Has anyone he’s endorsed won an election yet?

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JordanRules  Mar 14, 2018 • 2:54:15am
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JordanRules  Mar 14, 2018 • 3:28:11am
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freetoken  Mar 14, 2018 • 3:30:34am

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

It’s all about pushing the bigoted Center for Immigration Studies “study” on the matter.

Full of codswallop, as the old English might say.

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jeffreyw  Mar 14, 2018 • 3:32:04am

Imgur


Good morning!

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2018 • 3:37:54am
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Eventual Carrion  Mar 14, 2018 • 3:38:53am

re: #117 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Slow service at the diner this morning.

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jeffreyw  Mar 14, 2018 • 4:07:05am

re: #119 Eventual Carrion

Slow service at the diner this morning.

YouTube

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weave  Mar 14, 2018 • 4:25:00am

Good morning. Nice to wake up to a “most likely” victory!

But over on /r/the_congress (basically a clone of /r/the_donald) they are celebrating 2/3 last night…

3 races last night….2 of the 3 were won by Republicans. VICTORY: Congratulations to Senator-elect (R) Shane Reeves on his big win tonight in Tennessee!

VICTORY: Congratulations to (R) Fred Shanks on his win in Mississippi’s 60th House District!

Both these Guys were High engery Good Looking Republicans.

Of course the two are both state rep seats. But I couldn’t find any analysis of the two, as in, how was the D vote percentages in each compared to 2016.

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Alyosha  Mar 14, 2018 • 4:36:02am

I know I don’t drop in much but I went to one of the wildlife sanctuaries recently and thought of you all.

Feel free to use when appropriate :)

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weave  Mar 14, 2018 • 4:38:50am

So Republicans are most likely fucked now for 2018 and 2020. The wave is clear, and the tax cuts didn’t change voters minds like they had hoped.

It’s clear Trump is a cancer and is destroying the party (and the country).

Their only winning move that I can see now is to impeach and remove Trump ASAP, so Pence has some time in the big chair and runs as an incumbent in 2020. The question is, will they do it before or after the mid-terms?

I don’t know how long that process would take but I’m sure they don’t want impeachment hearings happening in the Fall, so I’m betting they’ll wait and take their chances in the mid-terms. But if Democrats take the House then they’ll probably impeach too.

So the big question is, will Democrats in the Senate vote to impeach between 2018 and 2020? I’m fearful they won’t. It’ll be like Clinton/Gore impeachment. Republicans didn’t want Gore running as an incumbent, they wanted to keep him around for liability.

So leaving Trump in place is probably a winning move for Democrats for 2020, but not for the country. I fear he’ll become unhinged and try to start wars to regain popularity. Pence is a wacko in his own right, but he’s not mentally unstable and stupid and a D majority in either chambers can limit what he can do anyway.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 14, 2018 • 4:40:19am

re: #117 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

I know the feeling kitty, I know the feeling…

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Bass Reeves  Mar 14, 2018 • 4:43:27am

Anybody watching The Looming Tower on Hulu? I read the book, enjoy the actors, and am yet thoroughly confused by the focus so far on…well…not bin Laden.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:05:22am

I am speechless. Trey Gowdy?

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:06:27am

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

Fox News spreading flagrant lies about undocumented immigrants.

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Half the problem is that right wingers are fundamentally ignorant about the basics of immigration, immigration law, and the net positive impact that documented and undocumented immigrants have on our economy and society.

The other half of the problem is that their ignorance is deliberate.

That’s exactly the problem. They are ignorant by choice. It’s not just immigration but other issues too.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:07:42am

re: #126 wheat-dogg

I am speechless. Trey Gowdy?

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I guess with him not having to worry about the lunatics in the GOP base he can actually be somewhat honest for once in public life.

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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:10:38am

re: #126 wheat-dogg

Trey’s quote:

“motivated in whole or in part by a desire to harm her candidacy or undermine her Presidency had she prevailed.”

The rest of the article on Trey’s quote is fluff.

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Lupin  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:14:49am

Spring has arrived here.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:15:03am

re: #121 weave

Good morning. Nice to wake up to a “most likely” victory!

But over on /r/the_congress (basically a clone of /r/the_donald) they are celebrating 2/3 last night…

Of course the two are both state rep seats. But I couldn’t find any analysis of the two, as in, how was the D vote percentages in each compared to 2016.

Are they cheering at /r/the_congress the gay Democrat who won the mayoral election in Ft. Lauderdale last night?

State and local elections matter too.
local10.com

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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:17:51am

I’ll prolly get time out but I don’t care.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:18:18am

Saw a miracle last night—not the election, that was just good politickn’. The miracle was seeing a Fox turn a Lamb into an elephant on live TV.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:19:51am

re: #132 Dave In Austin

I’ll prolly get time out but I don’t care.

Bill O’Reilly still hasn’t made good on his promise to be waterboarded. O’Reilly was convinced it isn’t torture, but is too chicken to carry out his promise. You might throw that in there.

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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:22:06am

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹

All politics are local and the Dem’s have to burn, churn, and turn the base/independents. Is it a omen of things to come? The Democrat’s have been pretty good at turning individual seats when they are hyper focused, but what about nation wide?

The Democrats have a history of spiking the ball on the one yard line.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:22:45am

Thread:

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:24:22am

re: #135 Shropshire Slasher

All politics are local and the Dem’s have to burn, churn, and turn the base/independents. Is it a omen of things to come? The Democrat’s have been pretty good at turning individual seats when they are hyper focused, but what about nation wide?

The Democrats have a history of spiking the ball on the one yard line.

Well, for us local folks, we just stay focused on local issues. Hence the victory in Ft. Lauderdale last night.

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Shropshire Slasher  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:26:03am

re: #136 Anymouse 🌹

cnn.com

Health care: Lamb criticized the GOP attempt to repeal Obamacare and called for bipartisan efforts to stabilize its markets. “I’ll work with anyone from either party who wants to help people with pre-existing conditions, improve the quality of care, and reduce premiums, out-of-pocket costs, and prescription drug prices,” he says on his campaign website.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:27:02am

re: #134 Anymouse 🌹

That was Hannity…..

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:27:52am

Google’s doodle for Pi Day is cute.

My wife will make a pie in honour of Stephen Hawking today.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:27:59am

re: #139 Dave In Austin

That was Hannity…..

Who does torture himself coming up with every excuse he can make for Trump.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:29:01am

re: #139 Dave In Austin

That was Hannity…..

Tough to keep FOX’s talking heads straight.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:30:11am

re: #132 Dave In Austin

I’ll prolly get time out but I don’t care.

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Basically I look at this way. We were horrified learning what the Japanese did to our guys in WWII so why is it acceptable that we did the same 60 years later? 9/11 was an awful event but it didn’t give us permission to do that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:32:43am
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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:34:46am

re: #144 Anymouse 🌹

Do.Not.Fuck.With.These.People. They will go around the world to screw your pooch,

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:38:50am

re: #144 Anymouse 🌹

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We did something like that I recall in the Obama years and then we elected the Moscovite Candidate.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:38:53am

Ah, I wake up and look at the Washington Post and this brings yet more joy to my heart this morning!

SETH RICH’S PARENTS ARE SUING FOX NEWS!

The parents of Seth Rich — the Democratic National Committee staffer police believe was murdered during a botched robbery in 2016 — have sued Fox News over a retracted story that peddled a conspiracy theory about his murder, claiming the network “intentionally exploited” the tragedy for political purposes.

The May 2017 story stated, falsely, that investigators had evidence showing Rich leaked thousands of DNC emails to WikiLeaks in the midst of the 2016 presidential election, just weeks before he was shot to death in Washington. That story line — popular among conspiracy theorists and in alt-right online groups — contradicts U.S. intelligence that Russia was behind the WikiLeaks email dump that damaged Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

Fox’s story fell apart quickly after the FBI pointed out that a “federal investigator” and “FBI report” referenced in the story as sources did not exist. The second core source in the story, private investigator and Fox contributor Rod Wheeler, claimed the Fox reporter fabricated his quote saying he had evidence of emails between Rich and WikiLeaks. He has since sued the network for defamation. (Fox News has denied all his claims.)

washingtonpost.com

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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:41:44am

I wanna say something about the United incident yesterday.

We have 2 (was 3) French Bulldogs. The puppy killed by United was a innocent little Frenchie. When I found out I bloke down in huge sobs and its all I can do to hold it in now.
My heart is broken over this because it’s close due to breed.

Please Boycott United FOREVER!!! I want to see them pay dearly for this.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:42:05am

re: #147 Joe Bacon 🌹

They’re also suing SMOTI and Alan West.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:42:40am

re: #149 Anymouse 🌹

And Alex Jones.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:47:20am
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Lupin  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:47:35am

re: #148 Dave In Austin

I wanna say something about the United incident yesterday.

We have 2 (was 3) French Bulldogs. The puppy killed by United was a innocent little Frenchie. When I found out I bloke down in huge sobs and its all I can do to hold it in now.
My heart is broken over this because it’s close due to breed.

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Please Boycott United FOREVER!!! I want to see them pay dearly for this.

UNITED is and has always been a horrible, horrible airline. When we lived in the US we were already boycotting them.

Honestly, if it had been me, I’d have gotten off the plane with my children my dog right away.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:50:10am

re: #152 Lupin

UNITED is and has always been a horrible, horrible airline. When we lived in the US we were already boycotting them.

Honestly, if it had been me, I’d have gotten off the plane with my children my dog right away.

United Accounts for One-Third of Animal Deaths on Airlines in Last Five Years
usatoday.com

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:50:17am

re: #144 Anymouse 🌹

Hmmm, expelling their ambassador or more minor diplomats I wonder.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:51:18am

re: #147 Joe Bacon 🌹

Ah, I wake up and look at the Washington Post and this brings yet more joy to my heart this morning!

SETH RICH’S PARENTS ARE SUING FOX NEWS!

The parents of Seth Rich — the Democratic National Committee staffer police believe was murdered during a botched robbery in 2016 — have sued Fox News over a retracted story that peddled a conspiracy theory about his murder, claiming the network “intentionally exploited” the tragedy for political purposes.

The May 2017 story stated, falsely, that investigators had evidence showing Rich leaked thousands of DNC emails to WikiLeaks in the midst of the 2016 presidential election, just weeks before he was shot to death in Washington. That story line — popular among conspiracy theorists and in alt-right online groups — contradicts U.S. intelligence that Russia was behind the WikiLeaks email dump that damaged Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

Fox’s story fell apart quickly after the FBI pointed out that a “federal investigator” and “FBI report” referenced in the story as sources did not exist. The second core source in the story, private investigator and Fox contributor Rod Wheeler, claimed the Fox reporter fabricated his quote saying he had evidence of emails between Rich and WikiLeaks. He has since sued the network for defamation. (Fox News has denied all his claims.)

washingtonpost.com

Good. FNC used their son’s death as a disgusting attack on the Clintons and DNC.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:53:40am

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

Study: Trump’s Border Wall Could Pay for Itself by Cutting Welfare to Illegal Immigrants insider.foxnews.com

— Fox News

The word “study” is doing a lot of work in this tweet.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:54:17am

re: #151 Dave In Austin

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Very sad story. Feel heartbroken for the parents of that poor dog. I have two dogs and can’t imagine how they must feel.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:54:42am

re: #60 Jay C

What a crock! I take crap like this from the Esteemed Idiot Speaker to mean that not only can every Democrat in the country replicate Conor Lamb’s victory, but that they probably WILL in November. I’d love to see Ayn Ryan reduced to a powerless back-bencher in the next Congress- or better yet, a new status: “ex-Congressman”

Ryan’s in an R+4 congressional district, well within range of this kind of turnover. That was the talk of someone who’s scared.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:54:48am

re: #154 Sir John Barron

Hmmm, expelling their ambassador or more minor diplomats I wonder.

The Guardian has a live feed up on developing news.

theguardian.com

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:55:46am

re: #147 Joe Bacon 🌹

Good. Hope they win millions in their lawsuit. I assume FNC will be forced to settle as the claims were completely baseless. Talk about fake news.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:56:14am

re: #156 Sir John Barron

The word “study” is doing a lot of work in this tweet.

Study comes from the racist Center for Immigration Studies.

They claim it will pay for itself by “ending welfare” to “illegal immigrants.”

Undocumented immigrants cannot collect from welfare programmes already.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:57:08am

re: #84 GlutenFreeJesus

I can guarantee you that tomorrow Trump will throw a wrench into PA18 by saying “many people are saying there was voter fraud”. Just watch.

Anyway. Hi Paul Ryan.

“I didn’t care about this race anyway, doesn’t matter, I didn’t campaign there…actually the Dem is a good guy, says nice things about me….this was a Democrat district anyway, he shoulda won by more.”

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:57:24am

re: #161 Anymouse 🌹

Study comes from the racist Center for Immigration Studies.

They claim it will pay for itself by “ending welfare” to “illegal immigrants.”

Undocumented immigrants cannot collect from welfare programmes already.

Nor can they vote as it was recently claimed they could under Gov. Brown’s new laws.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 5:57:44am

re: #149 Anymouse 🌹

SUE THEM MORE! MORE! MORE!

Andrea True Connection - More, More, More (1976) HQ

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:00:09am

re: #160 Patricia Kayden

Good. Hope they win millions in their lawsuit. I assume FNC will be forced to settle as the claims were completely baseless. Talk about fake news.

I hope he takes out SMOTI, Alex Jones, and Alan West with this lawsuit as well.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:01:09am

Odd to find myself looking forward to the morning’s presidential* tweets.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:01:27am

re: #163 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nor can they vote as it was recently claimed they could under Gov. Brown’s new laws.

They just make up shit and they know that the Dumb fucks that watch FNC will take this as gospel.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:03:12am
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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:05:30am

re: #168 Anymouse 🌹

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Well played Kristol.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:06:15am

Please retweet…..

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:07:50am

re: #47 Kragar

Except that there’s something like 100 districts where GOPers are under 20 points advantage of a Democrat, and there are plenty of Democrats on the ballot who are like Lamb or have similar backgrounds - starting with the fact that they aren’t seditious and pernicious enablers of a corrupt administration who lies about absolutely everything all the time.

Meanwhile, it looks like Kobach’s voter suppression efforts just took a hit in a totally expected way (well, expected to all but Kobach).

You hire expert witnesses because they’re supposed to buttress your claims. Kobach hoped his expert witness would prove there was voter fraud and 3 million instances in 2016.

His expert? Yeah, that’s total bullshit. You heard me right - Kobach pulled the numbers from his ass and it’s entirely unsupported by facts and reality.

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:08:04am

re: #160 Patricia Kayden

Good. Hope they win millions in their lawsuit. I assume FNC will be forced to settle as the claims were completely baseless. Talk about fake news.

Rich’s parents are demanding a jury trial.

Going for the throat. Next stop, discovery. It might not wound Fox too badly, but it could destroy SMOTI and Jones. I won’t shed a tear, in all honesty.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:09:25am

re: #166 Decatur Deb

Odd to find myself looking forward to the morning’s presidential* tweets.

“Republicans are Two for Two in races not involving baby sheep! How can Democrats run a baby sheep for office! They will do anything to win. Sad!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:09:52am

re: #171 lawhawk

Expert witnessMember of Deep State for Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach says he can’t support Kobach’s claim that 3 million noncitizens voted in the 2016 election.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:11:26am

re: #171 lawhawk

Except that there’s something like 100 districts where GOPers are under 20 points advantage of a Democrat, and there are plenty of Democrats on the ballot who are like Lamb or have similar backgrounds - starting with the fact that they aren’t seditious and pernicious enablers of a corrupt administration who lies about absolutely everything all the time.

Meanwhile, it looks like Kobach’s voter suppression efforts just took a hit in a totally expected way (well, expected to all but Kobach).

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You hire expert witnesses because they’re supposed to buttress your claims. Kobach hoped his expert witness would prove there was voter fraud and 3 million instances in 2016.

His expert? Yeah, that’s total bullshit. You heard me right - Kobach pulled the numbers from his ass and it’s entirely unsupported by facts and reality.

Ryan you know is freaking out.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:11:44am

re: #168 Anymouse 🌹

Shooting fish in a barrel…..

Gosh Trumpy just walks right into these things

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:12:58am

EU Donald Tusk calls out Trump on his BS tariffs:

independent.co.uk

The president of the European Council has launched a thinly-veiled attack on Donald Trump’s approach to international relations, accusing the US president of “transatlantic bickering” in the face of apparent Russian aggression.
In a Wednesday afternoon tweet in which he did not explicitly name the US president, Donald Tusk said that the requirement for “transatlantic unity” should be “obvious” for Europe’s “real friends” after the US president pushed forward with tariffs on European steel and aluminium.
Mr Tusk cited the use of a nerve agent on European soil, the spread of state-sponsored fake news, and the meddling in elections as reasons for a coordinated response from the US and EU.

(more)

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:15:07am
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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:15:58am

re: #178 Belafon

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Bye Rog.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:17:35am

MTV, BET, Comedy Central to suspend programming during gun violence walkout
thehill.com

(Comedy Central going dark, too.)

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:17:41am

If we had a responsible government (or a government with some true Americans running it), we’d do this.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:18:08am

re: #166 Decatur Deb

Odd to find myself looking forward to the morning’s presidential* tweets.

How about this one?

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:19:16am

re: #175 HappyWarrior

He’s looking to cash out…. literally and figuratively.

Anything that isn’t nailed down Ryan and the GOP are looking to take with them as they head into the sunset.

They don’t care. They got their tax cuts and are leaving government fundamentally hobbled all because they gave Trumpworld the controls. That helps the GOP claim that they need to cut spending even more because government doesn’t work. They initiated a crisis and the GOP response will be to slash and burn the safety net to pay for more tax cuts.

Ultimately, that’s what this is driving the GOP. Tax cuts.

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:19:31am

If we had a responsible government (or a government with some true Americans running it), we’d also do this.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:19:48am

re: #182 Anymouse 🌹

How about this one?

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Weird—that’s almost a direct repeat of one from yesterday. Must not be having a productive morning.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:20:56am

re: #185 Decatur Deb

Weird—that’s almost a direct repeat of one from yesterday. Must not be having a productive morning.

Probably needs more fiber in his diet …

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:21:52am
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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:22:25am

re: #185 Decatur Deb

Weird—that’s almost a direct repeat of one from yesterday. Must not be having a productive morning.

Sad!

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:23:33am

re: #182 Anymouse 🌹

How about this one?

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Yawn. You have a majority in both Houses. You’re a supposed master of deals and negotiation, I’m sure you’ll find a way./:

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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:23:53am
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Mike Lamb  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:24:41am

re: #182 Anymouse 🌹

How about this one?

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Dems are so effective at obstruction that they prevent folks from even being nominated…

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:25:01am

Derp aimed at the Parkland students behind the privacy bar, on that Britain First banned tweet:

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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:27:05am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:28:05am

re: #192 Anymouse 🌹

Reported that account for targeted harassment. Let’s pile on, Lizards.

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Sea Mexican!  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:28:06am

re: #5 The Ghost of a Flea

You know, having only really ever know Dr Hawking as an intellectual and communicator, I hope there’s another story where he just had a hell of a lot of fun.

There’s some stories that involve strippers.

Edit: Forgot to say, link is NSFW…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:29:26am

re: #193 Dave In Austin

Mwahaha.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:31:01am

re: #187 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

[trump] HOW CAN I FIRE THEM IF THE DEMS WON’T CONFIRM THEM!?!? [/trump]

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Sea Mexican!  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:34:12am

re: #195 Sea Mexican!

Be careful with the link I provided … it’s NSFW…

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:35:19am

Has anyone noticed how spectacularly awful Trump’s communications people are. They supposedly are the best Trump can find, and yet they can’t find any photos for use on the Trump twitter banner that are clear? It’s always out of focus and fuzzy. Many of their photos of signings and other candids are poorly laid out and not framed well. I can’t be the only one to notice this.

It goes to basic competency of the people around Trump, and it’s been like this from day one of the campaign.

It’s a shitshow, from Trump on down.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:37:02am

re: #199 lawhawk

Has anyone noticed how spectacularly awful Trump’s communications people are. They supposedly are the best Trump can find, and yet they can’t find any photos for use on the Trump twitter banner that are clear? It’s always out of focus and fuzzy. Many of their photos of signings and other candids are poorly laid out and not framed well. I can’t be the only one to notice this.

It goes to basic competency of the people around Trump, and it’s been like this from day one of the campaign.

It’s a shitshow, from Trump on down.

Needs more ketchup.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:37:24am

re: #199 lawhawk

Has anyone noticed how spectacularly awful Trump’s communications people are. They supposedly are the best Trump can find, and yet they can’t find any photos for use on the Trump twitter banner that are clear? It’s always out of focus and fuzzy. Many of their photos of signings and other candids are poorly laid out and not framed well. I can’t be the only one to notice this.

It goes to basic competency of the people around Trump, and it’s been like this from day one of the campaign.

It’s a shitshow, from Trump on down.

Governance by rank amateurs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:38:01am

re: #201 wheat-dogg

Governance by rank amateurs only the very best people.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:38:55am

re: #195 Sea Mexican!

There’s some stories that involve strippers.

That’s not actually a story … that’s a strip club Website.

I don’t have anything against strip clubs myself, nor Professor Hawking attending one though.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:39:58am

re: #198 Sea Mexican!

Be careful with the link I provided … it’s NSFW…

I would suggest putting this comment in your other comment.

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:42:22am

re: #203 Anymouse 🌹

That’s not actually a story … that’s a strip club Website.

I don’t anything against strip clubs myself, nor Professor Hawking attending one though.

Meh. If it floats your boat, fine. I always saw them as a monumental waste of money.

The last strip club I was in, we ended the night literally playing tug of war with Russian bouncers who were trying to drag my very drunk friend into their ‘champagne room.’ We had one arm, the bouncers had the other. Somehow, we got him out of there before they took him for every cent he had.

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:45:54am

re: #60 Jay C

What a crock! I take crap like this from the Esteemed Idiot Speaker to mean that not only can every Democrat in the country replicate Conor Lamb’s victory, but that they probably WILL in November. I’d love to see Ayn Ryan reduced to a powerless back-bencher in the next Congress- or better yet, a new status: “ex-Congressman”

this is meaningless
he basically said western PA is not florida is not kansas is not vermont is not even eastern PA

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:46:36am

re: #205 makeitstop

Meh. If it floats your boat, fine. I always saw them as a monumental waste of money.

The last strip club I was in, we ended the night literally playing tug of war with Russian bouncers who were trying to drag my very drunk friend into their ‘champagne room.’ We had one arm, the bouncers had the other. Somehow, we got him out of their before they took him for every cent he had.

It’s been a long time (a couple decades) I was in such a place … I had a friend who worked in it, so would occasionally drop by the club.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:46:55am

Russia is waging war on England and our President is doing nothing.

Another Russian found dead.

cnn.com

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:49:07am

re: #64 Kragar

RNC spokeswoman: Conor Lamb “has essentially run as a Republican” in PA special electio

of course “no”

if he had run as an R he would have got trounced in the primary and not been here at all

what conor lamb “essentially” did is beat the R candidate

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:50:32am

re: #207 Anymouse 🌹

It’s been a long time (a couple decades) I was in such a place … I had a friend who worked in it, so would occasionally drop by the club.

This one was in lower Manhattan, 100% Russian Mob owned and run. Most of the girls only spoke rudimentary English.

Not like the good old days, when they were run by bikers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:50:46am

re: #209 dangerman

of course “no”

if he had run as an R he would have got trounced in the primary and not been here at all

what conor lamb “essentially” did is beat the R candidate

in a Republican district, flipping several GOP precincts

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:51:11am

re: #169 HappyWarrior

Well played Kristol.

I know, but it so damn annoying updinging something from him.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:52:11am

re: #209 dangerman

of course “no”

if he had run as an R he would have got trounced in the primary and not been here at all

what conor lamb “essentially” did is beat the R candidate

He ran as an R except:
He argued for better health care, including making it affordable and covering preexisting conditions.
He’s pro-Union.

You know, in every way except the things that define the GOP, he ran as one.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:52:24am

Ryan’s “logic” seems to the wingnut talking point:

Kilmeade said that Saccone did not show sufficient support for Trump’s steel and aluminum tariffs — although both candidates said they backed the measures.

“Saccone is — he is not pro-union, so right there we have a virtual dead heat,” Kilmeade reasoned. “Also, a 33-year-old prosecutor who’s a Marine, as opposed to somebody who is not really known statewide, certainly is better.”

But he cautioned Democrats not to be too excited about flipping a House seat in a heavily conservative district after flipping a Senate seat in deep-red Alabama.

“The Democrats have reason to be happy? Yeah,” Kilmeade admitted. “But I’m very curious to see how many pro-life, pro-tax cut, pro-gun, anti-Nancy Pelosi candidates will be nominated for November, because Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren have a different image where the party is going and they’re looked at as leaders. If they are saying, ‘Wow, we are on a roll, yeah.’ Name another candidate like Conor Lamb.”

Lamb, in fact, opposed the GOP tax cuts, which he called a “giveaway” to the wealthy, and co-host Steve Doocy suggested the Democrat tricked GOP voters into backing him.

“What’s interesting about this particular thing that is too close to call is they both ran as Republicans,” Doocy said.

It’s an “even when we lose, we win” sort of way of salving the wounds, insisting that even when they lose what should have been an easy election, they really “won” because the Democrat wasn’t a far-left moonbat.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:54:42am

Huffington Post will be live-blogging the National School Walkout today at this link:

huffingtonpost.com

Students nationwide are walking out of their schools on Wednesday to protest gun violence on the one-month anniversary of the Parkland massacre.

Thousands of students are expected to file out of their classrooms to join the National School Walkout, a massive protest organized by Youth EMPOWER, a branch of young activists affiliated with the Women’s March.

The group asked students and faculty to walk off campus at 10 a.m. in every time zone for 17 minutes. Each minute represents one of the 17 people killed in the Feb. 14 mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:55:43am

re: #214 Targetpractice

Ryan’s “logic” seems to the wingnut talking point:

It’s an “even when we lose, we win” sort of way of salving the wounds, insisting that even when they lose what should have been an easy election, they really “won” because the Democrat wasn’t a far-left moonbat.

Let’s surprise them in November then.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:58:46am

re: #216 Anymouse 🌹

Let’s surprise them in November then.

“The Democrats retook the House by campaigning as Republicans!”

Also, too:

“Democrats retaking the House is The End of America! We’re dooooomed! Please contribute to the RNC/Trump!”

/

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 14, 2018 • 6:59:20am

Ben Carson knew. HE KNEW!

Redecoratorgate!!!!

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:01:13am

I’m off for a nap … I have to do a water test later and take it to the lab. Catch y’all later.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:01:53am

re: #217 Sir John Barron

“The Democrats retook the House by campaigning as Republicans!”

Also, too:

“Democrats retaking the House is The End of America! We’re dooooomed! Please contribute to the RNC/Trump!”

/

It’s going to be more:

“Well yes, Democrats won the House, but they’re not the far-left variety of Democrat like Warren or Indies like Sanders, so it’s not really all that big of a ‘win’ for them. Some of those Democrats might even support Trump!”

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:04:13am

re: #111 goddamnedfrank

Fox News spreading flagrant lies about undocumented immigrants.

[Embedded content]

Half the problem is that right wingers are fundamentally ignorant about the basics of immigration, immigration law, and the net positive impact that documented and undocumented immigrants have on our economy and society.

The other half of the problem is that their ignorance is deliberate.

three different stories in one tweet

the article itself:

Brandon Judd, president of the National Border Patrol Council, said many illegal aliens enter the U.S. to take advantage of taxpayer-funded social programs like welfare and public education.

the tweet Study: Trump’s Border Wall Could Pay for Itself by Cutting Welfare to Illegal Immigrants

only mentions welfare

and the chyron quoting judd “would absolutely help pay” for the wall:

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:05:16am

re: #113 wheat-dogg

So much winning from Trump, we’ll get tired of it.

Has anyone he’s endorsed won an election yet?

besides putin, kim, and duterte?

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Lupin  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:05:20am

re: #208 GlutenFreeJesus

Russia is waging war on England and our President is doing nothing.

Another Russian found dead.

cnn.com

Believe me, all the folks here that are in the know (in France and in Germany) are fully aware that, under Trump and his coterie, America is now an enemy of Europe. I gather there is a lot of under-the-table, backdoor communications between your Intelligence community and ours to minimize the damage — I have no idea how far ranging and successful it is — I’m not sure anyone does — based on long-standing personal relationships, but no one trusts your government anymore.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:05:46am
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Belafon  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:07:29am

re: #221 dangerman

three different stories in one tweet

the article itself:

the tweet Study: Trump’s Border Wall Could Pay for Itself by Cutting Welfare to Illegal Immigrants

only mentions welfare

and the chyron quoting judd “would absolutely help pay” for the wall:

Which, is therefore, itself a lie. Because school funding is per capita, reducing the number of students will hurt the schools, not help them. A teacher still has to be paid whether she’s teaching 10 or 20.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:08:37am

re: #221 dangerman

Brandon Judd, president of the National Border Patrol Council, said many illegal aliens enter the U.S. to take advantage of taxpayer-funded social programs like welfare and public education.

abolishing public education would go a long way towards keeping those illegals out.

/

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:08:40am

re: #214 Targetpractice

Ryan’s “logic” seems to the wingnut talking point:

[Embedded content]

It’s an “even when we lose, we win” sort of way of salving the wounds, insisting that even when they lose what should have been an easy election, they really “won” because the Democrat wasn’t a far-left moonbat.

I wish the wingnuts many victories like they received last night.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:08:52am

re: #224 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Campaign trail: “I will spend $1.5 trillion on infrastructure!”

In office: “I’m looking to only spend $500 billion and have the states/cities cover the rest by selling off public property to private companies. But I’m promising a return that seems like $1.5 trillion!”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:08:52am

School walkout being covered on CBS. Good for them!

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:10:28am

re: #228 Targetpractice

Campaign trail: “I will spend $1.5 trillion on infrastructure!”

In office: “I’m looking to only spend $500 billion and have the states/cities cover the rest by selling off public property to private companies. But I’m promising a return that seems like $1.5 trillion!”

It’s not even $500 billion. It’s $200 billion, or a cut from existing funding levels.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:10:35am

re: #229 GlutenFreeJesus

School walkout being covered on CBS. Good for them!

Have fun storming the castle!

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:10:57am

re: #230 lawhawk

It’s not even $500 billion. It’s $200 billion, or a cut from existing funding levels.

Yeah, but think of the (hugely overinflated) returns!

////

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:12:24am

re: #214 Targetpractice

Ryan’s “logic” seems to the wingnut talking point:

[Embedded content]

It’s an “even when we lose, we win” sort of way of salving the wounds, insisting that even when they lose what should have been an easy election, they really “won” because the Democrat wasn’t a far-left moonbat.

If they were both republicans then why did the wingnuts spend $10 million trying to defeat him?

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:14:18am

re: #233 bill d. (b.d.)

If they were both republicans then why did the wingnuts spend $10 million trying to defeat him?

Wingnut answer: “We wanted a real Republican, but we’ll settle for a conservative Democrat!”

Realistic answer: “There’s no way in hell a Democrat, even a conservative one, is gonna give Trump a pass.”

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:14:34am

re: #233 bill d. (b.d.)

If they were both republicans then why did the wingnuts spend $10 million trying to defeat him?

“Because we’re playing eleventy dimension chess to your checkers and because shut up.”

/

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:16:42am

Jeremy Corbyn is, for some strange reason, refusing to accept the premise that Russia was behind the nerve gas attacks. MPs in his own party are raking him over the coals.

theguardian.com

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:16:55am

re: #218 GlutenFreeJesus

Ben Carson knew. HE KNEW!

Redecoratorgate!!!!

1. Carson, like Trump, didn’t know anything about the collusion/big money purchase
2. OK, he did know, but he didn’t approve it
3. OK, he did know and he did approve it, so what?
4. Uranium One

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:17:44am

re: #237 Sir John Barron

1. Carson, like Trump, didn’t know anything about the collusion/big money purchase
2. OK, he did know, but he didn’t approve it
3. OK, he did know and he did approve it, so what?
4. Uranium One

I believe you should replace that last one with BENGHAZI!!!!!11!1onety

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:18:22am

re: #237 Sir John Barron

1. Carson, like Trump, didn’t know anything about the collusion/big money purchase
2. OK, he did know, but he didn’t approve it
3. OK, he did know and he did approve it, so what?
4. Uranium One

and again, this is peanuts compared to the sort of damage he is doing to HUD

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:19:45am

re: #220 Targetpractice

It’s going to be more:

“Well yes, Democrats won the House, but they’re not the far-left variety of Democrat like Warren or Indies like Sanders, so it’s not really all that big of a ‘win’ for them. Some of those Democrats might even support Trump!”

“And they even elected a moderate Speaker in *squints* Nency Spelosi from San Diego.”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:20:03am

We need a million people to surround NRA headquarters in Fairfax, VA. In fact, we need 1.58 million, the number of Americans killed by gun violence since 1968.

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Lupin  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:20:24am

re: #236 wheat-dogg

Jeremy Corbyn is, for some strange reason, refusing to accept the premise that Russia was behind the nerve gas attacks. MPs in his own party are raking him over the coals.

theguardian.com

To be fair, that’s what happens when a Government keeps lying about WMD. After a while, no one believes them anymore. Boy who cried wolf, etc.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:22:12am

re: #241 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I would buy a plane ticket and fly across the country to do that.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:22:36am

re: #237 Sir John Barron

1. Carson, like Trump, didn’t know anything about the collusion/big money purchase
2. OK, he did know, but he didn’t approve it
3. OK, he did know and he did approve it, so what?
4. Uranium One

5. You just hate Carson because he’s a True Christian and owns the Libs!
6. You just hate Carson because you hate Trump who’s MAGA!
7. Trump won, Hillary lost, get over it!

/

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:22:59am

re: #242 Lupin

To be fair, that’s what happens when a Government keeps lying about WMD. After a while, no one believes them anymore. Boy who cried wolf, etc.

Point taken, but in this case the evidence (even the circumstantial kind) seems plain.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:23:19am

re: #242 Lupin

To be fair, that’s what happens when a Government keeps lying about WMD. After a while, no one believes them anymore. Boy who cried wolf, etc.

This is being compared to the “45 minute warning” that Tony Blair cooked up to justify military action against Iraq

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:23:41am

re: #242 Lupin

To be fair, that’s what happens when a Government keeps lying about WMD. After a while, no one believes them anymore. Boy who cried wolf, etc.

Not really. The government hasn’t lied about the shape of the earth, yet we have a guy who wants to right a rocket up to prove everyone wrong.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:24:04am

re: #242 Lupin

To be fair, that’s what happens when a Government keeps lying about WMD. After a while, no one believes them anymore. Boy who cried wolf, etc.

Any idea how Macron will react? May is hoping for some support, I think.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:25:30am

re: #237 Sir John Barron

1. Carson, like Trump, didn’t know anything about the collusion/big money purchase
2. OK, he did know, but he didn’t approve it
3. OK, he did know and he did approve it, so what?
4. Uranium One YOU JUST HATE HIM BECAUSE HE’S BLACK!

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Lupin  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:26:35am

re: #245 wheat-dogg

Point taken, but in this case the evidence (even the circumstantial kind) seems plain.

Oh I agree; I was just saying that their credibility is shot nevertheless. And some of us predicted that at the time of the WMD debacle. (Bravo, de Villepin.)

Personally I think it is a Russian MOB hit as opposed to a political assassination (a slim difference, but still). I also think Putin did it brazenly in order to get the British to make life tougher for the nest of anti-Putin oligarchs living in the UK. IMHO, of course.

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:26:52am

re: #213 Belafon

He ran as an R except:
He argued for better health care, including making it affordable and covering preexisting conditions.
He’s pro-Union.

You know, in every way except the things that define the GOP, he ran as one.

its just another asinine comment

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Lupin  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:28:44am

re: #248 wheat-dogg

Any idea how Macron will react? May is hoping for some support, I think.

In speech, very forcefully, no doubt. It costs nothing. In actions… I wonder…

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Interesting Times  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:29:10am
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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:29:29am

re: #217 Sir John Barron

The Democrats retook the House by campaigning as Republicans!

Also, too:

“Democrats retaking the House is The End of America! We’re dooooomed! Please contribute to the RNC/Trump!”

/

…therefore as patriots they should vote the way we republicans would if we had won

(i think someone actually said this about doug jones)

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:29:56am

re: #251 dangerman

its just another asinine comment

Agree.

Lamb: I’m running on pro-breathing.
GOP: See, he’s just acting like a Republican.
Also GOP: Democrats are for breathing, we are against it.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:30:20am

re: #254 dangerman

…therefore as patriots they should vote the way we republicans would if we had won

(i think someone actually said this about doug jones)

Oh yeah, that’s what they said - “Well, since he got elected in a Republican state, he should represent Republicans by voting with the Republicans.”

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:31:35am

re: #256 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh yeah, that’s what they said - “Well, since he got elected in a Republican state, he should represent Republicans by voting with the Republicans.”

Meanwhile, they say, Republicans only represent Republicans in their districts. Democrats and other parties can just fck themselves.

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:31:35am

re: #218 GlutenFreeJesus

Ben Carson knew. HE KNEW!

Redecoratorgate!!!!

of course he knew.
he’s still safe because

other than this he rarely gets noticed
he’s the token in a blindingly white cabinet
he would never stand up to or disobey trump

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:31:49am

re: #219 Anymouse 🌹

I’m off for a nap … I have to do a water test later and take it to the lab. Catch y’all later.

tough day ahead

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:32:22am

re: #257 wheat-dogg

Meanwhile, they say, Republicans only represent Republicans in their districts. Democrats and other parties can just fck themselves.

Can you imagine the outcry if we had asked, for example, Michele Bachmann to vote with the Democrats?

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:32:49am

RIP Stephen Hawking:

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:32:49am

re: #258 dangerman

of course he knew.
he’s still safe because

other than this he rarely gets noticed
he’s the token in a blindingly white cabinet
he would never stand up to or disobey trump

I wonder if they ever physically meet each other, aside from Cabinet meetings (if they even happen).

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:33:32am

re: #224 lawhawk

Five of our incredible @Cabinet Secretaries are testifying on the Hill this morning on the need to rebuild our Nation’s crumbling infrastructure. We need to build FAST & we need to build for our FUTURE. Thank you @SenateCommerce for hosting this hearing!

“hosting” - like its some kind of party

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:34:10am

re: #225 Belafon

Which, is therefore, itself a lie. Because school funding is per capita, reducing the number of students will hurt the schools, not help them. A teacher still has to be paid whether she’s teaching 10 or 20.

precisely

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:35:22am

One of the top Moon landing deniers, a now deceased 400 pounder named Ralph René, was also a pi denialist. He claimed that pi did not in fact go on forever and would end at some point. He is one of the few people ever sued by the Mensa Society, which claimed he had mis-appropriated their name.

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:36:06am

re: #260 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Can you imagine the outcry if we had asked, for example, Michele Bachmann to vote with the Democrats?

The wingnut logic goes like this: A Congressman should vote as his constituents want…and the only constituents who matter are Republican ones. If you’re a Democrat in a red district, vote as if you were a Republican. If you’re a Republican in a blue district, vote as the Republicans in your district want. If you do the opposite of either scenario, you’re betraying “The People” and will be gone after the next election.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:38:04am

Here is our school just a bit earlier:

kWCfqeY90eRu1ocXjW/B3rmGqUN5ym1bt1TAfzbWxGy8pWhWpdL0VxB4qWO8mtCOpLqHDJtQIhJbkLEa9L5BeFrfn+cBKujrc317nWs9h2kd8/O4BmUeuqWrxRIgOfbuqhRWQ2df5dhsKmtjid7QuQtuRBu89s1eSxjWvL1rbUFcPAf2UUlcbQLk7RWHrn+KmZbFTWhHtPIC1fJQ049wwxz3q38D2AUdG9TimtWgStcH+hUGL5bX1SUgXSGjoqEs9mpK57is8ndKuqM1IZ7IB4k1cm8qRPP/5QqU46XjeGLwTAO5yvkPRZVHYQ4emtTjiLu/8iEszUj7H7zpV8JkaJ1yjUMondH98wnkYAc/JF9DefETlEiHz+WPJN2PgSdVSbi5PSMk5JaHcYv6jtp2riT6vP6VWVHe571RKTTHK3g5b0Ww8vLLgD+2GqwQL57y91gVtB4H2orW0xAv192zb7FNBUah/ybG

And other schools around town:

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:38:51am

re: #263 dangerman

“hosting” - like its some kind of party

“incredible” = “ones I haven’t fired yet today”

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:39:14am
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Nyet  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:40:41am

re: #236 wheat-dogg

Jeremy Corbyn is, for some strange reason, refusing to accept the premise that Russia was behind the nerve gas attacks. MPs in his own party are raking him over the coals.

theguardian.com

Strange? Corbyn is a well-known nutjob.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:40:49am

re: #269 lawhawk

Letterman is on the left.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:41:58am

re: #270 Nyet

Strange? Corbyn is a well-known nutjob.

I don’t follow UK politics that closely. It’s hard enough keeping tabs on US politics and the situation in China.

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dirkdigglerjr  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:42:03am

re: #269 lawhawk

Never will forget Gary’s incredible performance in “Lease.” What an actor!

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:42:45am

So, the latest banter from Trumpworld is that he’s going to use this as an opportunity to shuffle his cabinet even further.

Wait. Wut? Everyone is leaving to spend more time with the grand jury, and Trump thinks that redecorating the Cabinet with a bunch of know-nothing extremists will somehow improve things?

The chaos and stench of criminality is overpowering, and yet the GOP continues enabling the lout because they’re getting what they want - Trump’s sabotaging functioning government which gives them the rallying cry of cutting spending so that they can push for the next round of tax cuts. They are actively destroying government programs and undermining US national security and foreign policy because of a toxic combination of incompetence and purposeful action.

The GOP cannot be trust to control anything in government, and that is from Congress on down. They refuse to uphold their oaths of office, and that is disqualifying on its face.

It’s time they suffer the consequences of their malfeasance. Unfortunately, the chief instigator of GOP obstructionism is safe for just a while longer - McConnell.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:45:05am

Looks like the student walkout is a resounding success. Another wave is due in 16 minutes when the Central Time zone hits 10 AM>

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:46:28am

on Pi day, a reminder that “PI r2” has been proven false

pie R round
cake R square

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:47:16am

re: #276 dangerman

on Pi day, a reminder that “PI r2” has been proven false

pie R round
cake R square

One wonders what would happen if one tried to make a square pie. Would it cause the universe to implode, or would it simply be another case of pineapple on pizza?

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:49:19am

I just dropped my middle schooler off after his dental appointment. Students were outside doing a walk out there. There was supposed to be a 17-minute all-school reading of names at my other kid’s high school, but they had a snow day.

I was flipping through stations on the radio in the car and heard Ingraham saying that the “never again movement is getting out of control.” “Are kids going to start walking out once a week? Left-wing teachers don’t care; it makes their jobs easier; and Clooney and Oprah don’t care; this thing has Soros’ fingerprints all over it….” Then she ended with “enough is enough” concerning the student protests. Evil person with no sense of shame or irony.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:50:33am

Then I flipped to NPR’s “On Point” just in time to hear them play the clip of Homer Simpson drinking with Stephen Hawking at Moe’s. Genius!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:50:39am

re: #270 Nyet

Strange? Corbyn is a well-known nutjob.

I don’t want to go full Birch and suggest that every nutjob in politics is a Russian tool, but someone as prominent as Corbyn would be an obvious target for recruitment.

(Ironically, the Birch Society itself is now in full conformity with the Russians.)

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:50:47am

re: #278 Barefoot Grin

I just dropped my middle schooler off after his dental appointment. Students were outside doing a walk out there. There was supposed to be a 17-minute all-school reading of names at my other kid’s high school, but they had a snow day.

I was flipping through stations on the radio in the car and heard Ingraham saying that the “never again movement is getting out of control.” “Are kids going to start walking out once a week? Left-wing teachers don’t care; it makes their jobs easier; and Clooney and Oprah don’t care; this thing has Soros’ fingerprints all over it….” Then she ended with “enough is enough” concerning the student protests. Evil person with no sense of shame or irony.

“Soros is paying the students to walk out of class!”
/

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:51:21am

re: #281 Sir John Barron

“Soros is paying the students to walk out of class!”
/

Yeah, but only minimum wage! //

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:51:33am

what did we learn in pa-18?

you gotta be in it to win it

in such areas, dems can win when they run:
a good candidate
who is a clean candidate
they put the time and effort into gotv / turnout
when every vote is counted, every single vote makes a difference

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:52:35am

re: #278 Barefoot Grin

I was flipping through stations on the radio in the car and heard Ingraham saying that the “never again movement is getting out of control.” “Are kids going to start walking out once a week?”

HELL YES, Laura, you tool. If that’s what it takes.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:53:30am

re: #275 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Looks like the student walkout is a resounding success. Another wave is due in 16 minutes when the Central Time zone hits 10 AM>

Good for these students. They’re fighting for their safety and their lives.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:53:52am

There is some drunk asshole outside my apartment building yelling at nothing in particular. I’ve got my windows open, because it’s been nice outside, but I suspect Drunk Yelling Guy is going to make falling asleep difficult. May have to close the windows.

Well, it seems he has moved off to yell at something else further away. I may get some sleep after all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:54:06am

re: #274 lawhawk

It’s time they suffer the consequences of their malfeasance. Unfortunately, the chief instigator of GOP obstructionism is safe for just a while longer - McConnell.

They made a pact with the devil and now they are being summoned to pay up

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:54:16am

re: #277 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

One wonders what would happen if one tried to make a square pie. Would it cause the universe to implode, or would it simply be another case of pineapple on pizza?

as you may or may not remember, last week i attempted to make baked cavatelli with sausage. couldnt get cavatelli so i substituted cavatappi. we’re all still here.

havent figured out whether i actually made “baked cavatelli with sausage” or was it some entirely other thing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:55:19am

re: #284 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I was flipping through stations on the radio in the car and heard Ingraham saying that the “never again movement is getting out of control.” “Are kids going to start walking out once a week?

how often do school shootings take place in America?

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:55:22am

re: #279 Barefoot Grin

Then I flipped to NPR’s “On Point” just in time to hear them play the clip of Homer Simpson drinking with Stephen Hawking at Moe’s. Genius!

That reminded me of this from TNG:

Greatest minds in physics playing poker

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:55:39am

re: #288 dangerman

as you may or may not remember, last week i attempted to make baked cavatelli with sausage. couldnt get cavatelli so i substituted cavatappi. we’re all still here.

havent figured out whether i actually made “baked cavatelli with sausage” or was it some entirely other thing.

Obama ate hamburgers with mustard, and only the RWNJ universe imploded. The rest of us were safe.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:57:00am

re: #289 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“never again movement is getting out of control.”

me thinks she doth protest too much

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:57:24am

re: #278 Barefoot Grin

I just dropped my middle schooler off after his dental appointment. Students were outside doing a walk out there. There was supposed to be a 17-minute all-school reading of names at my other kid’s high school, but they had a snow day.

I was flipping through stations on the radio in the car and heard Ingraham saying that the “never again movement is getting out of control.” “Are kids going to start walking out once a week? Left-wing teachers don’t care; it makes their jobs easier; and Clooney and Oprah don’t care; this thing has Soros’ fingerprints all over it….” Then she ended with “enough is enough” concerning the student protests. Evil person with no sense of shame or irony.

its like she’s got a checklist of names/bogeymen and just ran through them

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:57:59am

re: #278 Barefoot Grin

I just dropped my middle schooler off after his dental appointment. Students were outside doing a walk out there. There was supposed to be a 17-minute all-school reading of names at my other kid’s high school, but they had a snow day.

I was flipping through stations on the radio in the car and heard Ingraham saying that the “never again movement is getting out of control.” “Are kids going to start walking out once a week? Left-wing teachers don’t care; it makes their jobs easier; and Clooney and Oprah don’t care; this thing has Soros’ fingerprints all over it….” Then she ended with “enough is enough” concerning the student protests. Evil person with no sense of shame or irony.

I notice the crowd of wingnuts making the biggest fuss over this are too young to have protested Vietnam/Civil Rights, thus having no real-life experience with what mass protest looks like. To them, the idea of mass protest makes no sense unless money is involved…or the protestors are wingnuts.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:58:14am

re: #293 dangerman

its like she’s got a checklist of names/bogeymen and just ran through them

George Clooney! Oprah! Soros! The Rules for Radicals guy!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:58:40am

re: #281 Sir John Barron

“Soros is paying the students to walk out of class!”
/

Pretty amusing that the ancient Soros orchestrates and finances literally everything the GOP doesn’t like but the Russian regime, with tens of thousands of operatives, incomparably more money, and a completely secure physical base, could not possibly have influenced the Republican Party.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:58:49am

re: #289 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

how often do school shootings take place in America?

They occur almost daily. Politifact claims that everytown, which cataloged the shooting data, conflates mass shootings with accidental shootings, but the problem is that the shootings do occur almost daily and it doesn’t matter if you’re accidentally hit and killed or purposefully hit and killed. You still have dead students/teachers on your hands.

The one constant is the gun violence and negligent handling/firing of guns is all too common too.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 14, 2018 • 7:59:23am

re: #278 Barefoot Grin

Thankfully, the kids don’t give a dang about Ingraham and her ilk. They’ll march and protest until they get their demands met.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:00:26am

I am shocked to find out that the good christian Dr. Ben Carson is a lying POS who blames his employees for his mistakes!

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:00:52am

re: #296 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Pretty amusing that the ancient Soros orchestrates and finances literally everything the GOP doesn’t like but the Russian regime, with tens of thousands of operatives, incomparably more money, and a completely secure physical base, could not possibly have influenced the Republican Party.

Soros to RWNJs is like the Devil and his demons to some Evangelicals — his power and reach expands according to the situation at hand.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:01:01am

re: #277 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

One wonders what would happen if one tried to make a square pie. Would it cause the universe to implode, or would it simply be another case of pineapple on pizza?

You can’t square a pie, it’s mathematically impossible.

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gwangung  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:01:24am

re: #299 bill d. (b.d.)

I am shocked to find out that the good christian Dr. Ben Carson is a lying POS who blames his employees for his mistakes!

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In a Democratic administration, there’d be calls for resignation.

Bet we hear not one peep about this.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:02:24am

Drunk Yelling Guy has definitely moved on. I’m going to sleep. See you all later.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:03:15am
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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:04:35am

re: #302 gwangung

In a Democratic administration, there’d be calls for resignation.

Bet we hear not one peep about this.

There would be calls for resignation, with accusations made that the only reason he’s not been fired is because he’s black and thus immune to the same sort of standards a white secretary would be subject to.

Meanwhile, the White House won’t force his resignation and Republicans won’t say anything about this because he’s their token in the administration and they fear political backlash if they hold him to the very standards they’d demand of a Democrat.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:04:44am

re: #302 gwangung

In a Democratic administration, there’d be calls for resignation.

Bet we hear not one peep about this.

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:04:48am

re: #272 wheat-dogg

I don’t follow UK politics that closely. It’s hard enough keeping tabs on US politics and the situation in China.

Think Bernie but even less bright and a pathological non-interventionist.

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:04:49am

re: #291 wheat-dogg

Obama ate hamburgers with mustard, and only the RWNJ universe imploded. The rest of us were safe.

i wonder though had he done that while wearing the tan suit could the cosmos have withstood it?

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:05:07am

re: #298 Patricia Kayden

Thankfully, the kids don’t give a dang about Ingraham and her ilk. They’ll march and protest until they get their demands met.

Yep. It’s been said here before, but the thing that really strikes fear into the hearts [sic] of Laura and the NRA is their increasing irrelevance as their demographic ages and dies.

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:06:16am

re: #296 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Pretty amusing that the ancient Soros orchestrates and finances literally everything the GOP doesn’t like but the Russian regime, with tens of thousands of operatives, incomparably more money, and a completely secure physical base, could not possibly have influenced the Republican Party.

goes to motive
the russians don’t have one // ——->

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:07:21am

The people who insist that protests like today’s are being paid for and those participating “actors” still swear to this day that the Tea Party protests were a spontaneous outpouring of anger and resentment…despite numerous examples of astroturfing.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:07:24am
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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:08:28am

re: #301 Belafon

You can’t square a pie, it’s mathematically impossible.

some guy wants you to try

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CongoJack  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:09:13am

re: #309 Barefoot Grin

Yep. It’s been said here before, but the thing that really strikes fear into the hearts [sic] of Laura and the NRA is their increasing irrelevance as their demographic ages and dies.

My fear though is those in the younger demographic that hold on to their elders’ beliefs become more radicalized as they see the population of their like-minded people dwindle.

The smaller circle of these people (conservatives, ammosexuals, religiocrazies) tend to go off the deep end when they perceive their backs are up against a wall.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:09:57am

re: #208 GlutenFreeJesus

Russia is waging war on England and our President is doing nothing.

Another Russian found dead.

cnn.com

I’ve heard that in retaliation, Prime Minister Mays has kicked out 21 Russian operatives. Wouldn’t it make more sense to arrest them to ensure that they weren’t involved with the chemical attack? They’ll go back to Russia and possibly travel to other western countries to cause havoc.

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:10:43am

re: #302 gwangung

In a Democratic administration, there’d be calls for resignation.

Bet we hear not one peep about this.

its almost like they set it up this way

31k is such small potatoes compared to so so so so so many other things
and im only talking about the financial / graft ones

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:11:11am

Well got a new phone when mine went south. So… Camera Test! Fire escape 13th floor

Facebook Post

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:11:20am

re: #315 Patricia Kayden

I’ve heard that in retaliation, Prime Minister Mays has kicked out 21 Russian operatives. Wouldn’t it make more sense to arrest them to ensure that they weren’t involved with the chemical attack? They’ll go back to Russia and possibly travel to other western countries to cause havoc.

I am sure they would consider doing so if they thought they had incontrovertible evidence, but that would really start up a serious diplomatic shitstorm with Russia.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:11:56am

re: #318 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am sure they would consider doing so if they thought they had incontrovertible evidence, but that would really start up a serious diplomatic shitstorm with Russia.

Russia just assassinated at least two guys on UK soil. There’s already a “serious diplomatic shitstorm” in progress.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:12:17am

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cat-tikvah  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:12:31am

re: #274 lawhawk

I keep communicating these very points to my right wing GOP senator, Pat Toomey.
He is abdicating his oath of office by failing to act as a check and balance on presidential abuse of power. He is complicit by turning a blind eye to the corruption, nepotism, self-dealing and ethical violations. He is complicit by refusing to act as tRump undermines democratic norms and foundations, threatens the free press, incites racial and religious hatred and scapegoats immigrants. The GOP is supine and are betraying America.
#VichyGOP
Of course, this has zero impact on Toomey. He still has safety nets to shred and health care to take away while protecting and rewarding “job creators”.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:12:40am

re: #283 dangerman

what did we learn in pa-18?

you gotta be in it to win it

in such areas, dems can win when they run:
a good candidate
who is a clean candidate
they put the time and effort into gotv / turnout
when every vote is counted, every single vote makes a difference

And you run a candidate who will fit in with the district — which may mean someone like Lamb who is pro-life and pro-gun.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:12:51am

re: #182 Anymouse 🌹

How about this one?

[Embedded content]

Good on Democrats if that is true.

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:12:58am

re: #304 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

“Get me an indian with a headdress, stephen hawking, and two guys with cameras. i’ll do the rest”

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:13:36am

re: #314 CongoJack

My fear though is those in the younger demographic that hold on to their elders’ beliefs become more radicalized as they see the population of their like-minded people dwindle.

The smaller circle of these people (conservatives, ammosexuals, religiocrazies) tend to go off the deep end when they perceive their backs are up against a wall.

I’d be fine if we could just pass legislation that would make access more difficult for those who have no business with a firearm and for other measures that would make it difficult for guns to become more plentiful in public. I think within a few years there would be acceptance by most. If we could change the norms the next generation would still have 2A but not the sense that everyone should be packing heat.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:13:49am

re: #318 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Killing or attempting to kill British residents should have already started a sh*tstorm.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:14:44am

re: #294 Targetpractice

I notice the crowd of wingnuts making the biggest fuss over this are too young to have protested Vietnam/Civil Rights, thus having no real-life experience with what mass protest looks like. To them, the idea of mass protest makes no sense unless money is involved…or the protestors are wingnuts.

These wingnuts would have been on the opposite side — supporting the war and against Civil Rights — and would have objected to these movements then too

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:15:22am

re: #305 Targetpractice

There would be calls for resignation, with accusations made that the only reason he’s not been fired is because he’s black and thus immune to the same sort of standards a white secretary would be subject to.

Meanwhile, the White House won’t force his resignation and Republicans won’t say anything about this because he’s their token in the administration and they fear political backlash if they hold him to the very standards they’d demand of a Democrat.

as i said. they are holding him to the standard of the republicans in this administration.
as such, 31k is small potatoes.

price, shulkin, zinke, pruitt, kushner, ivanka, trump himself, and on and on

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:15:29am

re: #311 Targetpractice

Projection.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:16:21am

re: #250 Lupin

Oh I agree; I was just saying that their credibility is shot nevertheless. And some of us predicted that at the time of the WMD debacle. (Bravo, de Villepin.)

Personally I think it is a Russian MOB hit as opposed to a political assassination (a slim difference, but still). I also think Putin did it brazenly in order to get the British to make life tougher for the nest of anti-Putin oligarchs living in the UK. IMHO, of course.

If you think Putin did it, why do you also think it wasn’t a political assassination?

Just wondering.

Meanwhile, I am on a campaign to find all balls in the possession of Democrats. I am trying to eliminate any spiking before the complete end of the November Midterm Election.

So hold onto your balls! And let’s consider not spiking them. Be satisfied to just plain kick some conservative asses. That is the kind of celebration we need and the type the arrogant conservatives think won’t happen.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:18:34am

re: #317 Unshaken Defiance

Well got a new phone when mine went south. So… Camera Test! Fire escape 13th floor

[Embedded content]

Not too far from me!

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CongoJack  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:19:06am

re: #325 Barefoot Grin

I’d advocate for that. The issue is the 1% of the population who are just plain nutters and the amount of damage they can do with their stockpiles.

I’m ready for the repeal of the 2nd Amendment I guess. I see no need for guns in our current society (dog(meat) willing there isn’t a nuclear apocalypse Fallout 4 style).

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:20:21am

re: #317 Unshaken Defiance

Well got a new phone when mine went south. So… Camera Test! Fire escape 13th floor

[Embedded content]

Looks good! What camera phone did you get?

My Wndows phone went toes up last week, and I replaced it with a Galaxy J7. I always hated the camera on the windows phone, the Galaxy’s is much better. I tested it on cats!

Spock
Bean
Trixie

And then this guy demanded equal time…

Scout

Much better than that crappy Windows phone camera (although I did like the phone a lot).

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Amory Blaine  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:20:52am

Damn lunkheads around here.

As Trump’s ratings with Wisconsin men rise, gender gap becomes massive

Women and men have long diverged in their views of Donald Trump.

But in Wisconsin, the gender gap over President Trump has grown to staggering proportions, a recent poll suggests.

In a statewide survey released last week by the Marquette Law School, 54% of men approved of Trump’s performance in office and 39% disapproved — for a “net approval” rating of plus 15.

But among women, 33% approved and 60% disapproved, for a net approval of minus 27.

Compared to the last time Marquette polled in Wisconsin — June 2017 — Trump’s net approval is down 8 points among women but up 14 points among men.

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:23:00am

re: #322 Hecuba’s daughter

And you run a candidate who will fit in with the district — which may mean someone like Lamb who is pro-life and pro-gun.

absolutely - and i should have included as i said in #206:
western PA is not florida is not kansas is not vermont is not even eastern PA

more D’s are better than less D’s
more D’s mean a better chance to control the house and/or senate (which right now the r’s control by 2!)

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:23:24am

re: #315 Patricia Kayden

I’ve heard that in retaliation, Prime Minister Mays has kicked out 21 Russian operatives. Wouldn’t it make more sense to arrest them to ensure that they weren’t involved with the chemical attack? They’ll go back to Russia and possibly travel to other western countries to cause havoc.

Arresting diplomats is not exactly what most states would do.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:24:14am

re: #334 Amory Blaine

Damn lunkheads around here.

As Trump’s ratings with Wisconsin men rise, gender gap becomes massive

What is wrong with white men? They really love a big strong-looking white guy who demeans anyone who isn’t. They disparage intelligence because it’s elitist and long for the good old days when only whites need apply.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:25:31am

re: #336 Nyet

Arresting diplomats is not exactly what most states would do.

Yes, that would initiate a Siberian-scale shitstorm.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:25:59am

re: #337 Hecuba’s daughter

What is wrong with white men? They really love a big strong-looking white guy who demeans anyone who isn’t. They disparage intelligence because it’s elitist and long for the good old days when only whites need apply.

He’s not even strong-looking. He’s just a big, flabby lump that talks a big game and has a hot wife (well, some guys think so; I’m not super high on her myself). They like him because he talks like them, acts like them, and thinks like them.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:26:43am

So is the vote in PA still up in the air or is CNN just being stupid?

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CongoJack  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:27:18am

re: #337 Hecuba’s daughter

What is wrong with white men? They really love a big strong-looking white guy who demeans anyone who isn’t. They disparage intelligence because it’s elitist and long for the good old days when only whites need apply.

Not certain Dolt 45 could be considered strong. Big, lumpy, a pant load - yes - but strong?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:27:19am

re: #340 Eclectic Cyborg

So is the vote in PA still up in the air or is CNN just being stupid?

As far as I’m aware, technically, there is still the final count of absentee ballots remaining to officially certify the result.

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:27:59am

re: #325 Barefoot Grin

I’d be fine if we could just pass legislation that would make access more difficult for those who have no business with a firearm and for other measures that would make it difficult for guns to become more plentiful in public. I think within a few years there would be acceptance by most. If we could change the norms the next generation would still have 2A but not the sense that everyone should be packing heat.

and i’d be fine with accountability and consequence laws for after folks demonstrably screwed up / losing control of your weapon (including who you sell to).

that would weed out the reckless and might just put the fear of responsibility into everyone else

if we could change that norm, we would still have the 2A but not the sense that they are all dangerous and careless

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:28:25am

re: #340 Eclectic Cyborg

So is the vote in PA still up in the air or is CNN just being stupid?

From what I understand, the official results won’t come until Friday when they finish calculating all of the ballots. But even the Republicans are saying it’s pretty much out of reach. I believe Saccone would have to win 90% of the remaining ballots to win.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:29:12am

re: #315 Patricia Kayden

I’ve heard that in retaliation, Prime Minister Mays has kicked out 21 Russian operatives. Wouldn’t it make more sense to arrest them to ensure that they weren’t involved with the chemical attack? They’ll go back to Russia and possibly travel to other western countries to cause havoc.

Diplomatic immunity protects the overall system, so kicking them out is the realistic option. For now.

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Nyet  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:29:16am

re: #338 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, that would initiate a Siberian-scale shitstorm.

Not to mention a mass arrest of British diplomats in response.

Which is why even insane states don’t do such things.

Ore: #338 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, that would initiate a Siberian-scale shitstorm.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:32:39am

re: #335 dangerman

absolutely - and i should have included as i said in #206:
western PA is not florida is not kansas is not vermont is not even eastern PA

more D’s are better than less D’s
more D’s mean a better chance to control the house and/or senate (which right now the r’s control by 2!)

Exactly and honestly I’m tired of Fox acting like the Dem base is nothing but Bernie/Warren people. It’s patronizing as fuck. And you know what, we know that Fox crowed when Scott Brown won in Massachusetts and as much as I hate to have thought it at the time, it was a harbinger that 2010 was oging to bed just like Republicans hsould see that for Alabama and this district.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:32:39am

re: #341 CongoJack

Not certain Dolt 45 could be considered strong. Big, lumpy, a pant load - yes - but strong?

I didn’t mean to imply he’s strong — only that he looks strong because he’s big. He will tower over most of the other world leaders ; of course, they all know he’s actually weak and ignorant. But those who are weak can lash out and cause real harm. Isn’t our worthless press failing to cover the many civilian deaths resulting from our new military policies? Bombs compensate for a lack of strength in other arenas.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:33:23am

re: #347 HappyWarrior

Exactly and honestly I’m tired of Fox acting like the Dem base is nothing but Bernie/Warren people. It’s patronizing as fuck. And you know what, we know that Fox crowed when Scott Brown won in Massachusetts and as much as I hate to have thought it at the time, it was a harbinger that 2010 was oging to bed just like Republicans hsould see that for Alabama and this district.

I’m also tired of Democrats acting like the Dem base is nothing but Bernie/Warren people.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:33:27am

re: #332 CongoJack

I’d advocate for that. The issue is the 1% of the population who are just plain nutters and the amount of damage they can do with their stockpiles.

I’m ready for the repeal of the 2nd Amendment I guess. I see no need for guns in our current society (dog(meat) willing there isn’t a nuclear apocalypse Fallout 4 style).

To be honest, I haven’t shot a gun since Boy Scout summer camp 40 years ago. I have no interest whatsoever and would be happy for a repeal of 2A. But I’m a pragmatist and I recognize that there are some legitimate reasons for ownership: hunting has positive aspects, I think; marksmanship is a legit sport; in some cases a gun might really be a valuable tool for self-protection (heard an interesting conversation the other day on the radio wherein a liberal woman in rural Arizona living alone has had issues with stalking and threats and only feels safe with a gun that she has been trained to use safely). But all of those things are possible without allowing nearly unfettered access to military-style weapons and, as you say, the ability to create personal arsenals.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:34:03am

re: #347 HappyWarrior

Exactly and honestly I’m tired of Fox acting like the Dem base is nothing but Bernie/Warren people. It’s patronizing as fuck. And you know what, we know that Fox crowed when Scott Brown won in Massachusetts and as much as I hate to have thought it at the time, it was a harbinger that 2010 was oging to bed just like Republicans hsould see that for Alabama and this district.

Example 423a, why one does not let the critics define you or your cause. It costs, but ya gotta stay ahead in that game.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:35:03am

re: #348 Hecuba’s daughter

Talks too loud, carries a big schtick.

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:37:04am

re: #337 Hecuba’s daughter

They really love a big strong-looking white guy

If that’s what they see when they look at Trump, they need an eye exam. I look at Trump and all I see is a fat old white dude who thinks he’s not a fat old white dude.

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gwangung  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:39:10am

re: #352 Unshaken Defiance

Talks too loud, carries a big schtick.

Doesn’t swing it nearly as hard as he thinks he does.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:41:19am

re: #349 Belafon

I’m also tired of Democrats acting like the Dem base is nothing but Bernie/Warren people.

For sure.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:41:31am

re: #347 HappyWarrior

Exactly and honestly I’m tired of Fox acting like the Dem base is nothing but Bernie/Warren people. It’s patronizing as fuck. And you know what, we know that Fox crowed when Scott Brown won in Massachusetts and as much as I hate to have thought it at the time, it was a harbinger that 2010 was oging to bed just like Republicans hsould see that for Alabama and this district.

Brown won against a non-inspiring but sane candidate. The trouble the Dems often face is that a Republican has to be really terrible to lose in a GOP district. And Saccone and Roy Moore were absolutely terrible. Moore would have won if the sexual allegations hadn’t come out, even though he was an awful person with vile views. The GOP base is evil and so are most of their representatives in Washington — either evil or cowards

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:43:11am

re: #353 makeitstop

If that’s what they see when they look at Trump, they need an eye exam. I look at Trump and all I see is a fat old white dude who thinks he’s not a fat old white dude.

May I point out that much of their base is old too? They are thrilled to see an American physically towering over other leaders.

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CongoJack  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:43:21am

re: #348 Hecuba’s daughter

I didn’t mean to imply he’s strong — only that he looks strong because he’s big. He will tower over most of the other world leaders ; of course, they all know he’s actually weak and ignorant. But those who are weak can lash out and cause real harm. Isn’t our worthless press failing to cover the many civilian deaths resulting from our new military policies? Bombs compensate for a lack of strength in other arenas.

I just wanted to use my reply to your post as an excuse to insult the Dolt. I follow ya :).

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:43:31am

re: #351 Unshaken Defiance

Example 423a, why one does not let the critics define you or your cause. It costs, but ya gotta stay ahead in that game.

You just gotta understand that every place you run is unique in its own way. I mean yeah I have different views on Roe and guns than Lamb does but we agree on enough more than not that I’m comfortable with him in the House. FNC is acting like we elected Zell Miller circa 2004. Lamb is a Democrat. He’s just ot a liberal.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:44:36am

re: #356 Hecuba’s daughter

Brown won against a non-inspiring but sane candidate. The trouble the Dems often face is that a Republican has to be really terrible to lose in a GOP district. And Saccone and Roy Moore were absolutely terrible. Moore would have won if the sexual allegations hadn’t come out, even though he was an awful person with vile views. The GOP base is evil and so are most of their representatives in Washington — either evil or cowards

I know Coakley was awful. My point is that losing that seat even with a horrible candidate is Dem stronghold Massachusetts was a harbinger of what 2010 became for the Dems just like Moore/Saccone are for the Republicans hopefully this year. But then again, I should be glad that the Republicans don’t see the writing on the wall here.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:44:48am

re: #359 HappyWarrior

You just gotta understand that every place you run is unique in its own way. I mean yeah I have different views on Roe and guns than Lamb does but we agree on enough more than not that I’m comfortable with him in the House. FNC is acting like we elected Zell Miller circa 2004. Lamb is a Democrat. He’s just ot a liberal.

But but but WHAT ABOUT THE UNICORN?!?!?

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gocart mozart  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:45:23am
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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:45:57am

re: #357 Hecuba’s daughter

May I point out that much of their base is old too? They are thrilled to see an American physically towering over other leaders.

I get your point.

But if they look at Trump and see ‘strong,’ then Trump has defined the word ‘strong’ down as badly as he has the word ‘president.’

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:46:34am

re: #361 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

But but but WHAT ABOUT THE UNICORN?!?!?

My niece has it. She loves unicorns and yesterday was her birthday.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:47:33am

re: #349 Belafon

I’m also tired of Democrats acting like the Dem base is nothing but Bernie/Warren people.

30% of voters are solid Trump, there is nothing he can do that will not just fuel their admiration and devotion. The rest of the electorate, I believe, can be reached by sound policies, candidates and arguments.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:47:51am

re: #275 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Looks like the student walkout is a resounding success. Another wave is due in 16 minutes when the Central Time zone hits 10 AM>

Just about every school in all the local central Ohio school districts did 17 minute walkouts. Saw a clip of one young lady saying this is just the start, the students know it will be a long process but they are all in for the long haul.

Groveport Madison High School passed out signs, a big banner and wrist bands to all the students that had the hashtag-Never Forget printed on it.

I understand there are people raising money for the students to take busses to Washington for the big rally.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:49:20am

re: #366 ObserverArt

I understand there are people raising going to see George Soros to secretly collect big bagfuls of money for the students to take busses to Washington for the big rally.

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blueraven  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:51:54am

re: #322 Hecuba’s daughter

And you run a candidate who will fit in with the district — which may mean someone like Lamb who is pro-life and pro-gun.

Lamb is personally opposed to abortion on his Catholic upbringing, but he supports a woman’s right to choose.

Lamb doesn’t make his support of abortion a big part of his campaign. A Roman Catholic, he says he personally opposes abortion.

But he opposes the GOP-proposed 20-week ban on abortions and has seen his views come under attack during the special election. And in an interview, he emphasized that the country was founded on the principle of separating church and state.

This position is held by many Democrats. Joe Biden, for example.

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Interesting Times  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:51:56am

Something something broken clock/blind squirrel:

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:52:48am

re: #359 HappyWarrior

You just gotta understand that every place you run is unique in its own way. I mean yeah I have different views on Roe and guns than Lamb does but we agree on enough more than not that I’m comfortable with him in the House. FNC is acting like we elected Zell Miller circa 2004. Lamb is a Democrat. He’s just ot a liberal.

Lamb was a Pelosi Democrat to FNC…until he won last night. Now he’s a MAGA Trump supporter, lol.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:53:19am

re: #365 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

30% of voters are solid Trump, there is nothing he can do that will not just fuel their admiration and devotion. The rest of the electorate, I believe, can be reached by sound policies, candidates and arguments.

We’re talking about the Dem base here though.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:54:20am

re: #370 Sir John Barron

Lamb was a Pelosi Democrat to FNC…until he won last night. Now he’s a MAGA Trump supporter, lol.

The RNC thought so too. Money talks. The RCCC certainly didn’t think Lamb was a Republican and neither did Trump. Republican spin is SAD!

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Targetpractice  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:54:22am

re: #369 Interesting Times

Something something broken clock/blind squirrel:

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I suspect that Mitch isn’t overly worried about losing Aqua Buddha’s vote.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:58:02am

re: #369 Interesting Times

Something something broken clock/blind squirrel:

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I’ll give him credit on this. He’s awful but he’s right about this.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:58:39am

re: #298 Patricia Kayden

Thankfully, the kids don’t give a dang about Ingraham and her ilk. They’ll march and protest until they get their demands met.

I think the kids are very familiar with all the Fox heads and are out to tell them where they can all go. Laura, Sean, Tucker and the rest are their enemies and they use them to keep motivated. The more Laura mouths off the more the students will be determined.

Between the election results and the student protests Fox finds themselves in a strange position. A lot of their old tricks are falling apart and not getting the results.

It sure would be nice to see them grow more and more ineffective, it might force the ownership to go for a change once Rupert is out of the picture, maybe even before as I think his sons control it now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 8:59:46am

re: #371 HappyWarrior

We’re talking about the Dem base here though.

I wanted to expand to the electorate overall. I am sure there is a Democrat base of similar size to the GOP, it is the group in the middle that needs to be addressed.

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Renaissance_Man  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:01:10am

re: #301 Belafon

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:01:32am

re: #375 ObserverArt

I think the kids are very familiar with all the Fox heads and are out to tell them where they can all go. Laura, Sean, Tucker and the rest are their enemies and they use them to keep motivated. The more Laura mouths off the more the students will be determined.

Between the election results and the student protests Fox finds themselves in a strange position. A lot of their old tricks are falling apart and not getting the results.

They have a standard playbook of attack, defame and deflect that has worked well to date.

But these students are very media savvy and they have put a sympathetic and very human face on the issue of gun control legislation.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:05:28am

I think what the Parkland kids have is that they can talk about gun violence because well they witnessed it. They can tell you how full of shit Loesch and all the NRA talking points and hacks are because they know what it’s like to face a shooter. Dana? LaPierre? Nope. Just patronizing platitudes. Loesch took the bait and went to the Town Hall and I think showed a lot of Americans what many of us have known about the NRA for years.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:12:54am

re: #379 HappyWarrior

I think what the Parkland kids have is that they can talk about gun violence because well they witnessed it. They can tell you how full of shit Loesch and all the NRA talking points and hacks are because they know what it’s like to face a shooter. Dana? LaPierre? Nope. Just patronizing platitudes. Loesch took the bait and went to the Town Hall and I think showed a lot of Americans what many of us have known about the NRA for years.

They also refuse to get off track. Their message is “AR-15s are being used to kill us.” They’re not lost in magazine vs. clip, or “but my 2nd amendment rights.” Let the other side justify why they’re for killing kids.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:13:27am
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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:14:27am

re: #380 Belafon

They also refuse to get off track. Their message is “AR-15s are being used to kill us.” They’re not lost in magazine vs. clip, or “but my 2nd amendment rights.” Let the other side justify why they’re for killing kids.

I just saw that Stupid Steve Crowder is going after them for wearing armbands and implying they don’t know history because the Nazis wore armbands.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:16:34am

re: #382 HappyWarrior

I just saw that Stupid Steve Crowder is going after them for wearing armbands and implying they don’t know history because the Nazis wore armbands.

And certainly, nobody in history before or since has worn armbands, nor are they standard issue at funerals. Nope, only the Nazis, in the entire history of humanity, wore armbands.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:18:25am

re: #383 Blind Frog Belly White

And certainly, nobody in history before or since has worn armbands, nor are they standard issue at funerals. Nope, only the Nazis, in the entire history of humanity, wore armbands.

Yeah my wingnut friend just posted this idiocy and I just wanted to tear into him but I don’t have the heart to do a political debate today.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:18:27am
A former senior Equifax executive has been charged with insider trading.

Jun Ying, Equifax’s former US chief information officer, made nearly $1 million by exercising and selling all his company stock options before Equifax made its mega-breach public, according to an SEC complaint filed Wednesday.

money.cnn.com

Lock him up.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:20:10am

re: #301 Belafon

You can’t square a pie, it’s mathematically impossible.

But….
Pies are round
Cakes are Square
HxW=Pi*r^2

QED

Your wrong.
/

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:20:17am

re: #382 HappyWarrior

I just saw that Stupid Steve Crowder is going after them for wearing armbands and implying they don’t know history because the Nazis wore armbands.

Somebody better tell all of those Military Police folks that their MP armbands make them Nazis.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:21:53am

re: #387 bill d. (b.d.)

Somebody better tell all of those Military Police folks that their armbands make them Nazis.

I mean to be fair to Crowder, he did bring up the Tinker case but he posted some stupid shit about “wearing armbands while promoting for more government” and then linked to his idiotic piece claiming hte Nazis were leftists. Sigh, so much respect lost for my friend who posts this shit. If I didn’t know him since we were wee high, he’d be defriended.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:23:06am
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sagehen  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:24:07am

re: #315 Patricia Kayden

I’ve heard that in retaliation, Prime Minister Mays has kicked out 21 Russian operatives. Wouldn’t it make more sense to arrest them to ensure that they weren’t involved with the chemical attack? They’ll go back to Russia and possibly travel to other western countries to cause havoc.

If they were there with diplomatic cover, they had diplomatic immunity.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:24:14am

re: #384 HappyWarrior

Have some fun with a link
(image copyrighted)

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:24:18am

re: #389 GlutenFreeJesus

This just happened in California.

3 students injured when California high school teacher fires gun during safety course

Did another armed teacher rush in and take the shooter down?

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Citizen K  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:24:21am

Meanwhile, Hillary remains a boogeyman that any and all Democrats must completely disavow for breathing, otherwise they are literally traitors, apparently.

Just…christ.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:25:47am

re: #391 Unshaken Defiance

Have some fun with a link
(image copyrighted)

Hell the kids were wearing black armbands. Typically the symbol of mourning. There’s a picture of FDR wearing one the day we declared war on Japan since his mother had just died.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:26:49am

re: #393 Citizen K

Meanwhile, Hillary remains a boogeyman that any and all Democrats must completely disavow for breathing, otherwise they are literally traitors, apparently.

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Just…christ.

She’s never going to stop being a boogeyman desptie you know getting more votes than Bernie or Trump but somehow they don’t need to shut up but she does.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:27:35am

re: #382 HappyWarrior

I just saw that Stupid Steve Crowder is going after them for wearing armbands and implying they don’t know history because the Nazis wore armbands.

And Hitler was a vegetarian.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:29:38am

re: #396 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And Hitler was a vegetarian.

Yeah I’ve seen people do that one too. If it wasn’t a characteristic that defined their evil, it’s irrelevant. I love beer so did many high ranking Nazis. BY right wing logic, I’m a Nazi.

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:29:39am

This exchange on Wheeler’s tweet made me laugh so loud I scared one of the cats.

Only funny ‘cuz it’s true, probably.
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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:31:46am

re: #398 makeitstop

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This exchange on Wheeler’s tweet made me laugh so loud I scared one of the cats.

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You know, my brother isn’t walking out but he’s not going to a right wing blogger with a blatant agenda either.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:32:39am

In the voice of Weird Al in UHF when he opens Al Capone’s glove box:

“AAAARMMMMBAAAAAAANDS!!!!”

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:32:51am

re: #398 makeitstop

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This exchange on Wheeler’s tweet made me laugh so loud I scared one of the cats.

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He seems like a good kid!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:33:18am

re: #397 HappyWarrior

Yeah I’ve seen people do that one too. If it wasn’t a characteristic that defined their evil, it’s irrelevant. I love beer so did many high ranking Nazis. BY right wing logic, I’m a Nazi.

Hitler built Autobahns. That makes Eisenhower the biggest Nazi in American history for signing the National Interstate and Defense Highways Act of 1956…

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darthstar  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:33:22am
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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:33:45am
In the latter days of the campaign, the Republicans abandoned their economic pitch that was based on the president*’s ability to convince congressional Republicans to pass a massive plutocrat’s wet dream of a tax cut. This was supposed to be the magic bullet in this election. Instead, Saccone decided to let the traditional culture-war boogeypersons out of the closet.

On Monday, for example, Conor Lamb was a wild-eyed “libtard” who was going to let undocumented immigrant doctors perform abortions on your 10-year-old daughter in the middle of a mass gay wedding in Greene County. On Wednesday, according to those same Republicans, Conor Lamb was basically Mark Meadows in Democratic drag. Are the Republicans pretty well and truly fcked up as a party right now? Signs point to “Yes.”

esquire.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:34:30am

re: #398 makeitstop

If you’re a conservative student pressured to walkout in support of gun control - & that made you uncomfortable - tell me your story!

If you preferred to stay in class and continue to be a potential target for the next mass shooting, tell me all about it!!!

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sagehen  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:35:18am

re: #350 Barefoot Grin

To be honest, I haven’t shot a gun since Boy Scout summer camp 40 years ago. I have no interest whatsoever and would be happy for a repeal of 2A. But I’m a pragmatist and I recognize that there are some legitimate reasons for ownership: hunting has positive aspects, I think;

Hunting is actually necessary; there’s more deer in this country now than there were when Columbus arrived (not many people use them as a primary food source, there’s very few wolves and cougars to eat them, etc.)

We need for people to shoot 5 million of them every year; otherwise, their overpopulation would eat too much underbrush and damage the forests, spill out to eat farms and gardens, they’d be all over the highways causing lots and lots of car wrecks, etc.

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darthstar  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:35:47am
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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:36:16am

re: #394 HappyWarrior

Hell the kids were wearing black armbands. Typically the symbol of mourning. There’s a picture of FDR wearing one the day we declared war on Japan since his mother had just died.

General Sherman, after Lincoln was assassinated.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:36:20am

re: #403 darthstar

I’ll control my own guns, thank you - NRA

That’s the issue, guys, THEY’RE FUCKING OUT OF CONTROL IN THIS COUNTRY!!!

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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:36:41am

re: #389 GlutenFreeJesus

This just happened in California.

3 students injured when California high school teacher fires gun during safety course

Three teens attending Seaside High School in Monterey County were hurt by debris falling from the ceiling, Pridgen added.

Infrastructure Week!

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:36:45am

re: #403 darthstar

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Probably not the best look dumbasses when there’s been several recent gun accidents but sure keep on acting like you know what you’re doing. We all know you only like guns because you’re insecure about having baby dicks.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:37:12am

re: #408 The Vicious Babushka

General Sherman, after Lincoln was assassinated.

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ZOMG NAZI SHERMAN!

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:38:28am

re: #401 bill d. (b.d.)

He seems like a good kid!

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What a little clown.

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Jay C  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:39:22am

re: #402 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Hitler built Autobahns. That makes Eisenhower the biggest Nazi in American history for signing the National Interstate and Defense Highways Act of 1956…

Wait a sec… I thought Eisenhower was a Communist? I mean, that’s what RWNJs have been saying since the ‘50s. How could Ike be a Commie and a Nazi at the same time? Was he THAT good of a politician after all?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:40:02am

re: #350 Barefoot Grin

To be honest, I haven’t shot a gun since Boy Scout summer camp 40 years ago. I have no interest whatsoever and would be happy for a repeal of 2A. But I’m a pragmatist and I recognize that there are some legitimate reasons for ownership:::

It is another tenet of RW faith that libtards want to repeal the 2A and confiscate all our guns and give them to ISIS and drug gang members.

That is not the point at all, but that viewpoint prevents even the most moderate and pragmatic proposals for curbing gun proliferation and violence impossible to implement.

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sagehen  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:40:38am

re: #107 goddamnedfrank

Jesus, she’s a fucking monster.

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OMG, I just saw a picture of Gina Haspel.

Sara Gilbert has to play her in the movie.

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:41:21am

re: #359 HappyWarrior

You just gotta understand that every place you run is unique in its own way. I mean yeah I have different views on Roe and guns than Lamb does but we agree on enough more than not that I’m comfortable with him in the House. FNC is acting like we elected Zell Miller circa 2004. Lamb is a Democrat. He’s just ot a liberal.

nationally, if the winner is one who caucuses with the dems, that’s a start
you cant govern if you dont win at all
and you cant run the house or senate if enough of us dont win

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:41:43am

re: #416 sagehen

OMG, I just saw a picture of Gina Haspel.

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Sara Gilbert has to play her in the movie.

I do love our hypothetical castings. Pompeo? Looks a little like a more heavy set Spacey possibly?

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:42:37am

re: #417 dangerman

nationally, if the winner is one who caucuses with the dems, that’s a start
you cant govern if you dont win at all
and you cant run the house or senate if enough of us dont win

Precisely. It’s about being up a majority not being purer than thou. If I wanted to only agree with myself, I’d just do what people like Ron Paul did for years and never get anything actually accomplished.

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:43:40am

re: #368 blueraven

Lamb is personally opposed to abortion on his Catholic upbringing, but he supports a woman’s right to choose.

This position is held by many Democrats. Joe Biden, for example.

and is a perfect example of what “representation” means

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darthstar  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:45:32am

Holy shit. Jeff Sessions is fucked.

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darthstar  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:47:14am

I suspect Manafort is cooperating, too.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:49:33am

re: #418 HappyWarrior

I do love our hypothetical castings. Pompeo? Looks a little like a more heavy set Spacey possibly?

Can’t cast Spacey for anything anymore, at least not until he’s rehabilitated.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:49:55am

re: #421 darthstar

Holy shit. Jeff Sessions is fucked.

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And if the latter claim in the first tweet is true - “He knew Trump sought to meet Putin secretly.” - does that not implicate Hair Furor himself? Could we be looking at the first direct evidence that Fuckface von Clownstick materially participated in collusion?

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:50:20am

re: #389 GlutenFreeJesus

This just happened in California.

3 students injured when California high school teacher fires gun during safety course

im not trying to be funny here

no one is safe around guns
they are dangerous and prone to lazy and sloppy handling

it is easy to lose control of your weapon - even for trained and certified experts

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:51:10am

The Washington Post just sent an alert that Kudlow is now he new White House economic advisor.

So when will he check into the Betty Ford Clinic again??????????

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:51:51am

re: #414 Jay C

Wait a sec… I thought Eisenhower was a Communist? I mean, that’s what RWNJs have been saying since the ‘50s. How could Ike be a Commie and a Nazi at the same time? Was he THAT good of a politician after all?

Remember, according to rwnj Nazis are socialists; it says so right in the name of the party!

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:51:57am

re: #423 Big Beautiful Door

Can’t cast Spacey for anything anymore, at least not until he’s rehabilitated.

I know that. Just going on looks alone.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:53:23am

re: #421 darthstar

Holy shit. Jeff Sessions is fucked.

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Bet the elf would like a couple tokes off a joint right about now.

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:54:20am

re: #429 Eventual Carrion

Bet the elf would like a couple tokes off a joint right about now.

Hell, he’d probably chug a bottle of Oxy if you handed it to him right now.

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BlueGrl21  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:54:55am

The Yam has not been tweeting today. Why on earth would that be?

I do not consider this a negative.

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:55:21am

re: #403 darthstar

I’ll control my own guns, thank you.

if every one of you, members and non members did, then none of this would be happening

the problems are

1. you dont
2. there are virtually no consequences when you dont so no one else learns from your idiocy

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:56:20am

re: #431 BlueGrl21

The Yam has not been tweeting today.

Why on earth would that be?

I do not consider this a negative.

He’s a half a block away from me at the Wilshire Grand Hotel…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:56:52am

So I have to ask, what’s the big deal about this “Walk Up Not Out” thing? Is this how the wingnuts are trying to repress the anti-gun movement, by making it about bullying and trying to take the focus off of guns?

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:57:03am

Remember the real victims here….

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BlueGrl21  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:57:22am

re: #433 Joe Bacon 🌹

He’s a half a block away from me at the Wilshire Grand Hotel…

Dude. Stay away from that hot mess!

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Mattand  Mar 14, 2018 • 9:59:45am

re: #359 HappyWarrior

You just gotta understand that every place you run is unique in its own way. I mean yeah I have different views on Roe and guns than Lamb does but we agree on enough more than not that I’m comfortable with him in the House. FNC is acting like we elected Zell Miller circa 2004. Lamb is a Democrat. He’s just ot a liberal.

Dude’s gonna vote to criminalize abortion and obstruct every attempt at logical gun control at every turn. I’m calling this now.

Yes, I know he can’t run on progressive values in SW PA, and yes, I know perfect is the enemy of good. So fucking what? This is another example of the Dems being dragged further to the right.

Sorry to rain on the parade and everything, but there’s no fucking mandate here. There’s only two things I feel good about: the idiot Trumpgrets shitholes actually put their money where their mouths are, and that this maybe is where we turn the corner towards having rational humans run US government.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:00:02am

re: #325 Barefoot Grin

I’d be fine if we could just pass legislation that would make access more difficult for those who have no business with a firearm …

From a regulatory enforcement perspective, how do you define “[n]o business with a firearm”?

Definitions are the tricky part in all the current mechanisms that are suggested: keep guns away from dangerous/crazy people, your idea of people with no business with a firearm, etc.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:00:17am

re: #421 darthstar

Mueller has Sessions on several counts of perjury and the AG is in fact, as I’ve been saying for some time now, one of the top targets in Mueller’s investigation.

This is very frustrating to our sensation and bombshell-addicted media. Mueller has to play his cards very closely against his chest.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:01:41am

re: #431 BlueGrl21

The Yam has not been tweeting today. Why on earth would that be?

I do not consider this a negative.

Surprised he didn’t tweet about what a loser Saccone is and how Trump carried him to the brink of victory anyway.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:01:54am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:02:33am

re: #421 darthstar

Holy shit. Jeff Sessions is fucked.

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Breaking!
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dirkdigglerjr  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:04:43am

re: #442 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

“This is a complete conspiracy orchestrated by Mrs. Fields!” proclaimed Sessions as he was led away by police.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:05:24am
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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:05:35am

re: #435 Ace-o-aces

Remember the real victims here….

If you’re a conservative student pressured to walkout in support of gun control - & that made you uncomfortable - tell me your story!

this is stupid on a bunch of levels

self aware high school student identifies as a “conservative”

yet so weak to be peer “pressured” into walking out and not thinking for him/herself?

and, horror of horrors, “walking out” made you feel “uncomfortable”?

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:06:06am

re: #437 Mattand

Dude’s gonna vote to criminalize abortion and obstruct every attempt at logical gun control at every turn. I’m calling this now.

Yes, I know he can’t run on progressive values in SW PA, and yes, I know perfect is the enemy of good. So fucking what? This is another example of the Dems being dragged further to the right.

Sorry to rain on the parade and everything, but there’s no fucking mandate here. There’s only two things I feel good about: the idiot Trumpgrets shitholes actually put their money where their mouths are, and that this maybe is where we turn the corner towards having rational humans run US government.

It’s a R+18 district. I hear ya but we need every member we can have.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:08:25am

re: #398 makeitstop

If you’re a conservative student pressured to walkout in support of gun control - & that made you uncomfortable - tell me your story! #NationalWalkoutDay

— Liz Wheeler

The next NYT weekly series: conservative students pressured to walkout for gun control; conservative students pressured to become transgender, etc.

/

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:08:32am

re: #446 HappyWarrior

It’s a R+18 district. I hear ya but we need every member we can have.

I know something Lamb won’t do: vote for Paul Ryan to be Speaker of the House.

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sagehen  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:08:52am

re: #446 HappyWarrior

It’s a R+18 district. I hear ya but we need every member we can have.

If the only thing he votes D on is who should be speaker and who chairs committees… I’ll take it.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:08:52am

re: #443 dirkdigglerjr

“This is a complete conspiracy orchestrated by Mrs. Fields!” proclaimed Sessions as he was led away by police.

Famous Amos is putting up the money for the “actors”.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:09:23am

re: #449 sagehen

If the only thing he votes D on is who should be speaker and who chairs committees… I’ll take it.

And I think he’s going to do more than just that.

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Weaselone  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:10:29am

re: #437 Mattand

Dude’s gonna vote to criminalize abortion and obstruct every attempt at logical gun control at every turn. I’m calling this now.

Lamb’s position on abortion is similar to that of numerous Democrats in that he is personally opposed, but is pro-choice. He’s on record, during the campaign as opposing the 20 week ban. Regarding guns, given the current makeup of Congress, I suspect he’s a no vote on any legislation that has zero chance of making it through, but probably a yes vote on something where his vote would be decisive. I doubt he would bother with obstruction either way.

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:11:25am

re: #437 Mattand

Dude’s gonna vote to criminalize abortion and obstruct every attempt at logical gun control at every turn. I’m calling this now.

Yes, I know he can’t run on progressive values in SW PA, and yes, I know perfect is the enemy of good. So fucking what? This is another example of the Dems being dragged further to the right.

Sorry to rain on the parade and everything, but there’s no fucking mandate here. There’s only two things I feel good about: the idiot Trumpgrets shitholes actually put their money where their mouths are, and that this maybe is where we turn the corner towards having rational humans run US government.

the more D’s the closer to controlling the house and / or senate (yes i know this was a one off election)

the democratic party in general holds and allows a wider variety of positions than the other side

r’s tend to be pressured to almost always all vote the same way

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:11:34am

re: #426 Joe Bacon 🌹

The Washington Post just sent an alert that Kudlow is now he new White House economic advisor.

So when will he check into the Betty Ford Clinic again??????????

Trump shoulda picked that guy from Ferris Bueller instead, lol.

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:12:00am

re: #448 Big Beautiful Door

I know something Lamb won’t do: vote for Paul Ryan to be Speaker of the House.

winner

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:12:12am

re: #449 sagehen

If the only thing he votes D on is who should be speaker and who chairs committees… I’ll take it.

you too

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:12:53am

How stupid are the ammosexuals? A lot of them think the top part of this is authentic:

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:14:35am

re: #437 Mattand

Dude’s gonna vote to criminalize abortion and obstruct every attempt at logical gun control at every turn. I’m calling this now.

He’s only finishing the end of a term and is immediately going to run for election this November in a newly created, more liberal district, so he has no incentive to do what you say.

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CongoJack  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:14:56am

re: #437 Mattand

Dude’s gonna vote to criminalize abortion and obstruct every attempt at logical gun control at every turn. I’m calling this now.

Yes, I know he can’t run on progressive values in SW PA, and yes, I know perfect is the enemy of good. So fucking what? This is another example of the Dems being dragged further to the right.

Sorry to rain on the parade and everything, but there’s no fucking mandate here. There’s only two things I feel good about: the idiot Trumpgrets shitholes actually put their money where their mouths are, and that this maybe is where we turn the corner towards having rational humans run US government.

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Mattand  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:16:43am

Appreciate everyone’s feedback. As I stated yesterday, I had a past Dem rep knife Obama in the back because of pressure from conservative mouth breathers in my then district. It makes me itchy.

I also got into a drawn argument with a couple of “pro-lifers” at Jezebel yesterday, one of whom was straight up “No abortions after 16 weeks, woman goes to jail otherwise.” Again, I’ve seen what happens when Dems get pressured by Republicans. So I’m a little on edge from that.

I’m really not try to be contratraion. I just so upset at the monstrous turn this country has taken, and I really don’t want to get my hopes up in November, only to have them dashed. I got downdigned a few times here for saying that Trump needed to be taken more seriously, and I don’t want to be right again.

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Mattand  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:17:33am

re: #459 CongoJack

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If you’re joking, that’s funny.

If not, fuck you.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:22:47am
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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:26:35am

There’s a weird kind of symmetry at play with Hawking passing on Einstein’s birthday.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:28:10am

re: #457 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

How stupid are the ammosexuals? A lot of them think the top part of this is authentic:

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Yeah that’s how robberies work. Why even have police?

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:30:42am

I trust a Democratically controlled house would at least be able to get gun legislation to some hearings even with Conor Lamb. That would be something just in itself. Then who knows what happens, maybe the majority of American can then get its licks in.

The job of a politician is to listen to his constituents and get reelected by pleasing them. Maybe if Conor’s district wants AR type rifles banned he would be willing to go along. Surely a better shot than having an NRA backed Republican in the seat.

And I notice Mattand wants this country to get back to normalized politics. I don’t understand why he would then be worried about some Democrats being dragged to the right.

If that means a guy like Conor Lamb is one of those then doesn’t that mean it is a start to normalization?

If it takes a bunch of Lambs to eliminate the far right, then I don’t see the problem. In the long run it could well lead to decent Republicans again after the party is cleansed of the tea drinkers and freedom fuckers.

Maybe they actually do see Conor as a Republican; one that no longer exists in their own party. Maybe the Republicans go out looking for Conor Lambs and gets away from the Kings, Jordans and Gohmerts.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:31:14am

re: #463 makeitstop

There’s a weird kind of symmetry at play with Hawking passing on Einstein’s birthday.

And he was born on the anniversary of Galileo’s death!

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:32:15am

re: #464 HappyWarrior

Yeah that’s how robberies work. Why even have police?

It’s fine to have a gun for home defense.

But wouldn’t a handgun do just as well for that? And unless we’re invaded by zombie hordes, dooes anyone need six semi-assault weapons?

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:33:31am

re: #425 dangerman

im not trying to be funny here

no one is safe around guns
they are dangerous and prone to lazy and sloppy handling

it is easy to lose control of your weapon - even for trained and certified experts

There are no accidents around guns. There are only purposeful discharges and negligent ones (Jim Wright - aka Stonekettle).

Rules of gun use (and I’m a non gun owner but I know the rules): Always assume every gun you handle or are around is loaded with a round in the chamber.

Always check the gun before handling to make sure there is no round in the chamber.
Always make sure the safety is on.

Etc.

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:37:10am

re: #466 Big Beautiful Door

And he was born on the anniversary of Galileo’s death!

Wow, I did not know that!

The randomness of the cosmos doesn’t seem so random sometimes.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:38:19am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:38:39am

re: #467 Sir John Barron

It’s fine to have a gun for home defense.

But wouldn’t a handgun do just as well for that? And unless we’re invaded by zombie hordes, dooes anyone need six semi-assault weapons?

If you want to use a gun to defend yourself, your home and your family, then I guess that is your good right.

I just get tired of this notion that masses of good guys or teachers with guns are going to be an effective way to stop public mass shootings.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:39:30am

re: #467 Sir John Barron

It’s fine to have a gun for home defense.

But wouldn’t a handgun do just as well for that? And unless we’re invaded by zombie hordes, dooes anyone need six semi-assault weapons?

Exactly. And so it’s clear I don’t think the police need assault weapons either.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:39:44am

re: #472 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If you want to use a gun to defend yourself, your home and your family, then I guess that is your good right.

I just get tired of this notion that masses of good guys or teachers with guns are going to be an effective way to stop public mass shootings.

It’s pure fucking fantasy.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:42:34am
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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:43:34am

re: #473 HappyWarrior

Exactly. And so it’s clear I don’t think the police need assault weapons either.

They didn’t before they needed them to be able to control all the idiots with AR style rifles. I think much of that changed with the two robbers out in California that outgunned the police in the North Hollywood Shootout in ‘97.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:44:08am

Police: White Nationalist’s Battery Arrest Follows Affair With Spox’s Wife

The white nationalist leader is married to Brooke Heimbach, the step-daughter of Matt Parrott, the Traditionalist Worker Party’s chief spokesman. Matthew Heimbach was also carrying on an extramarital affair with Parrott’s wife, Jessica Parrott. Per the police report, when Brooke Heimbach and Matt Parrott confronted Matthew Heimbach about the affair, Matthew physically attacked both of them.

Not laughing, because my growing suspicion is that there’s a debris field of shitty behavior around people that are genuinely dangerous because they give no fucks about other people except as instruments. In this case, it’s four shitty people, but most of the time it ain’t.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:45:21am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:45:36am

re: #475 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Wasn’t that what Mitt Romney advised young people to do?

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:46:10am

re: #475 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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5. millennials: dont be afraid to lose your parent’s money

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:49:21am

re: #473 HappyWarrior

Exactly. And so it’s clear I don’t think the police need assault weapons either.

I think a case could be made for these to be available in emergency circumstances - say, incidents of terrorism, or if a criminal gang decided to pull a North Hollywood. I don’t think that it should be a matter of regular procedure to be able to call in a SWAT team and have a small army of heavily armed, heavily armored shock troopers show up.

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nines09  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:49:51am

re: #468 lawhawk

There are no accidents around guns. There are only purposeful discharges and negligent ones (Jim Wright - aka Stonekettle).

Rules of gun use (and I’m a non gun owner but I know the rules): Always assume every gun you handle or are around is loaded with a round in the chamber.

Always check the gun before handling to make sure there is no round in the chamber.
Always make sure the safety is on.

Etc.

If you met some of the “hunters” I’ve run across, you’d never step into the woods in any hunting season.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:51:20am

re: #475 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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We all have a quarter mill from MOm and Dad. Sigh sick of patronizing bullshit.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:52:02am

re: #479 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Wasn’t that what Mitt Romney advised young people to do?

Yep, borrow money from your parents, start a business. Because you know when you’re struggling to pay your own debts, your parents no doubt are going to have plenty of money to give.

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CongoJack  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:53:17am

re: #459 CongoJack

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re: #461 Mattand

If you’re joking, that’s funny.

If not, fuck you.

Well.. half joking (so half fucked?)… I wallow in nihilism every so often but doing so after a win is exhausting. If this would have been a coin flip district and the Rs would have won they would have called it a mandate over and over and used it to push their agenda. The Ds win a reliably R district and our D brethren state that it doesn’t matter he is as good as an R vote is… foolish. If Lamb turns out as you describe I will happily eat crow but lets not put that cart before the horse (idioms!).

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:53:57am

re: #482 nines09

If you met some of the “hunters” I’ve run across, you’d never step into the woods in any hunting season.

There’s a reason that so many of those places have higher gun death rates than places like NY or NJ.

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:56:25am
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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:57:17am
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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:57:17am

re: #487 jaunte

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Bernie’s a hypocrite.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 10:59:51am

The gun issue I think is one issue I think Sanders should be pounced on with along with his less than steller immigration record should he try to spit i nthe pool again in 2020.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:00:12am

re: #341 CongoJack

Not certain Dolt 45 could be considered strong. Big, lumpy, a pant load - yes - but strong?

Definition of “strong” changes opportunistically. They’re not interested in a set definition because that would be a standard they could fail. Make it changeable—like art, they know it when they see it—and they get to both always claim some “strength” and deny “strength” to anyone they don’t like.

I mean, you can watch this happen with the bottom-basement of personal power, physical strength. There’s lots of ripped vegans and trans mens and sensitive dudes that cry openly, but those qualities are seen as the province of “real” manly men.

It’s all about moving goalposts, with the fixed point of “I’m the one at the top of the hierarchy.”

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Varek Raith  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:00:16am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:00:42am
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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:02:19am

re: #493 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I hate British Nazis.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:03:38am

re: #492 Varek Raith

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Video

Larry Flynt is right, you guys stink!

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:04:57am

Vindictive fuckers.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:06:51am

re: #437 Mattand

Dude’s gonna vote to criminalize abortion and obstruct every attempt at logical gun control at every turn. I’m calling this now.

Yes, I know he can’t run on progressive values in SW PA, and yes, I know perfect is the enemy of good. So fucking what? This is another example of the Dems being dragged further to the right.

Sorry to rain on the parade and everything, but there’s no fucking mandate here. There’s only two things I feel good about: the idiot Trumpgrets shitholes actually put their money where their mouths are, and that this maybe is where we turn the corner towards having rational humans run US government.

And you wonder why I come in being all contradictory. Remember how much Kaine, Biden, and Reid restricted abortion because they’re personally opposed to it?

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:06:53am
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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:07:11am
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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:07:40am

re: #475 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Willard Romney agrees, plus be sure to be born rich.

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nines09  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:07:55am

re: #486 lawhawk

There’s a reason that so many of those places have higher gun death rates than places like NY or NJ.

I personally know two people who were shot. The amount of people who hunt is dropping in my area. Not sure why. I feel better about it. I would not let my kids into the local woods any time during deer or small game season. And much more land is posted now.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:08:16am

re: #494 HappyWarrior

Always bring enough hate to share it equally with all the Nazis.

Yes, I recognize the Blues Brothers reference.

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:08:49am

Future Secretary of State Sean Hannity, with Steve Doocy to head HUD.

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Mattand  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:08:52am

re: #465 ObserverArt

First off, I’ve been very, very clear that I’m skirting purity test demands. It is not something I take lightly and am hyper aware of it.

Second, as I also said, I get that the soon-to-be-exticnt District 18 in SW PA is never going to be a progressive paradise. I can read. I fucking get it.

That said, I’m tired of seeing Democratic politicians campaigning by denying everything their party stands for. The whole “Pelosi is Enemy #1” is perfect example. That’s playing to every dumbfuck Fox News viewer in the country, let alone the district. All the bullshit about him being proud of being a Democrat like his grandfather is undercut by that. He doesn’t have to love Pelosi, but the subtext is even Democrats hate the Democratic Party.

If Lamb is being truly honest about not fighting to criminalize abortion and turning women into breeding machines, fine. I find the statements wishy-washy and if he gets enough pressure, it’s not unreasonable to assume he’ll turn.

Guns? What can I say? He’s probably screwed on this one. I’ll give him that. Again, I wouldn’t count on him stepping to the plate and trying to prevent another Parkland.

I consider these Democratic values that Lamb and countless other Democrats pay lip service to in order to get elected, and then cut and run like cowards when the first wingnut looks at them funny. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong.

I’m happy he won, as a minor repudiation of Trump and that we have a warm body in the House. And again, as I said, if this is the tide turning, that’s awesome. AND AGAIN, I understand where he lives and what it takes to get elected there. Until Lamb backs his actions, I’m skeptical.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:09:18am

re: #501 nines09

I personally know two people who were shot. The amount of people who hunt is dropping in my area. Not sure why. I feel better about it. I would not let my kids into the local woods any time during deer or small game season. And much more land is posted now.

I’ve always contended that gun nuts were the real elitists and not gun control supporters. I haven’t known anyone who was shot by anyone else but I do remember a drive by shooting in my hometown. Of course, Trump’s answer for that is to blame the El Salvadorians.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:10:13am

re: #504 Mattand

First off, I’ve been very, very clear that I’m skirting purity test demands. It is not something I take lightly and am hyper aware of it.

Second, as I also said, I get that the soon-to-be-exticnt District 18 in SW PA is never going to be a progressive paradise. I can read. I fucking get it.

That said, I’m tired of seeing Democratic politicians campaigning by denying everything their party stands for. The whole “Pelosi is Enemy #1” is perfect example. That’s playing to every dumbfuck Fox News viewer in the country, let alone the district. All the bullshit about him being proud of a Democrat like his grandfather is undercut by that. He doesn’t have to love Pelosi, but the subtext is even Democrats hate the Democratic Party.

If Lamb is being truly honest about not fighting to criminalize abortion and turning women into breeding machines, fine. I find the statements wishy-washy and if he gets enough pressure, it’s not unreasonable to assume he’ll turn.

Guns? What can I say? He’s probably screwed on this one. I’ll give him that. Again, I wouldn’t count on him stepping to the plate and trying to prevent another Parkland.

I consider these Democratic values that Lamb and countless other Democrats pay lip service to in order to get elected, and then cut and run like cowards when the first wingnut looks at them funny. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong.

I’m happy he won, as a minor repudiation of Trump and that we have a warm body in the House. And again, as I said, if this is the tide turning, that’s awesome. AND AGAIN, I understand where he lives and what it takes to get elected there. Until Lamb backs his actions, I’m skeptical.

Matt, he may move a iittle to the left look at this way. That district is going to be more Democratic in November.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:10:26am

re: #499 lawhawk

An empire of counterfeits and mountebanks.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:10:45am

re: #503 jaunte

Future Secretary of State Sean Hannity, with Steve Doocy to head HUD.

Blonde Model #3466-C for DOD!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:11:14am

re: #476 ObserverArt

They didn’t before they needed them to be able to control all the idiots with AR style rifles. I think much of that changed with the two robbers out in California that outgunned the police in the North Hollywood Shootout in ‘97.

M-1 Garands would have stopped those two dead in their tracks. I mention the M-1 because we had a stash of them when I was a deputy sheriff in California in the late 70s. Our normal issue weapons were a Colt Python revolver and a Winchester shotgun. The M-1s were for special conditions where range and penetration might be needed. I usually had one in the trunk when I worked in the desert.
Rifles like the AR-15, or the M-1 for that matter, are actually a poor choice for home defense since the high velocity bullets can easily go through walls and kill people in the next room or even the next house. Shotguns are ideal for this, not because they make up for poor accuracy (since shot spread is actually so small across a room as to make no difference) but because the right selection of shot can provide great stopping power with little risk of over-penetration. Conversely, if penetration is needed (suspects behind a car, for example) slug loads can do the job.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:12:16am

re: #494 HappyWarrior

I hate British Nazis.

They were a lot more popular in the 1930’s than British history would like to let on, and had lots of influential supporters among the ruling classes as well.

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:12:29am

re: #508 HappyWarrior

Heather Nauert…. who is another one Trump’s tapped for a position. Acting undersecretary of state.

Again, someone with zero foreign policy experience.

It’s just talking heads that he hears telling him exactly what he wants to hear.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:12:31am

re: #509 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

M-1 Garands would have stopped those two dead in their tracks. I mention the M-1 because we had a stash of them when I was a deputy sheriff in California in the late 70s. Our normal issue weapons were a Colt Python revolver and a Winchester shotgun. The M-1s were for special conditions where range and penetration might be needed. I usually had one in the trunk when I worked in the desert.
Rifles like the AR-15, or the M-1 for that matter, are actually a poor choice for home defense since the high velocity bullets can easily go through walls and kill people in the next room or even the next house. Shotguns are ideal for this, not because they make up for poor accuracy (since shot spread is actually so small across a room as to make no difference) but because the right selection of shot can provide great stopping power with little risk of over-penetration. Conversely, if penetration is needed (suspects behind a car, for example) slug loads can do the job.

See, this is why I don’t think they know nearly as much about guns as they claim to when they’re trying to talk down liberal gun control advocates.

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Mattand  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:14:18am

re: #485 CongoJack

Well.. half joking (so half fucked?)… I wallow in nihilism every so often but doing so after a win is exhausting. If this would have been a coin flip district and the Rs would have won they would have called it a mandate over and over and used it to push their agenda. The Ds win a reliably R district and our D brethren state that it doesn’t matter he is as good as an R vote is… foolish. If Lamb turns out as you describe I will happily eat crow but lets not put that cart before the horse (idioms!).

Sorry. I’m dealing some serious IRL issues here and probably watching too much Maddow. Lately, I’ve been really horrified at how the Republican Party basically made a deal with Russia to sell out the country, in order to stay in power forever. I understand what you’re saying, and my screed above should hopefully explain that.

I wouldn’t call it nihilism; I don’t trust people who say they stand for one thing and then campaign by saying “Wink wink, that’s not how I really feel”. Again, I hope I’m wrong. I think the whole trashing of Pelosi is what really got to me. He doesn’t have to pretend she’s a sinless angel, but it’s pandering that I question was necessary.

Maybe it was. That’s politics, I guess.

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:14:57am
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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:15:54am

United Airlines Mistakenly Flies Family’s Dog To Japan Instead Of Kansas City

Another reason to keep your pets far away from United. At least this time the dog didn’t die.

huffingtonpost.com

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:16:03am
$100,000/month cocaine addiction

In other words, his heart could stop at any moment.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:16:55am

There is a powerful component of racism in all this. Ammosexuals want the high capacity, rapid fire “assault” weapons for the same reason mass shooters do: They can kill a lot of people in a hurry. They are therefore ideal for the sick fantasy scenario of zombie like hordes pouring out of the inner cities “when the welfare checks stop.”

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Interesting Times  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:18:26am

For those concerned about Conor Lamb’s abortion views, he’s getting a pretty BFD of an endorsement here:

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lawhawk  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:18:39am

re: #514 jaunte

The only reason Kudlow is the new guy is because Trump likes watching him on TV. Kudlow tells Trump what he wants to hear, not what he has to hear.

Same with all the other Trump sycophants. Trump values loyalty and if you don’t tell him what he wants to hear, then he considers that an act of disloyalty.

We saw that with Tillerson. We’ve seen that with Comey and we’re watching Trump seethe over Sessions too (though Sessions continues destroying the DOJ bit by bit, including overstepping the bounds of the law by appointing people to the federal attorney positions in key jurisdictions before they’ve been actually confirmed by the Senate (this is a separation of powers issue and the Senate GOP is allowing Trump to get away with this - when it’s something they would normally fight like hell since confirmation is a Constitutional power reserved to the Senate).

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:20:05am

A stat from yesterday: Republicans spent $10M on yesterday’s election, Democrats spent approximately $2M.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:20:23am
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jaunte  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:20:54am

The Administration will continue as a revolving door carnival of incompetency.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:21:03am

re: #518 Interesting Times

For those concerned about Conor Lamb’s abortion views, he’s getting a pretty BFD of an endorsement here:

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It seems to me he’s like Tim Kaine and Joe Biden and many Catholic politicians in the Democratic party.

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:21:21am

re: #520 Belafon

“Drain the swamp’s wallet.”

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:21:26am

re: #520 Belafon

A stat from yesterday: Republicans spent $10M on yesterday’s election, Democrats spent approximately $2M.

Woot. I like to see that.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:22:03am

Sure is a lot of arguing over a guy who’s going to be out of a job in a few months.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:22:30am

re: #522 jaunte

The Administration will continue as a revolving door carnival of incompetency.

If Kudlow helps Trump send us into recession, will CNBC let him back on?

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:23:14am

From twitter: BLS currently in lockdown because of an apparent suicide/shooting.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:23:25am

re: #522 jaunte

A core instability of Trump’s WH is that he refuses to resolve the ideological disputes in his administration.

Trump has never displayed any ideology beyond advancing his own interests.

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CongoJack  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:25:01am

re: #513 Mattand

I have faith (and I’m not what you would call religious) that everything will be known by the end of this investigation and that all of the dirty dealings by the Rs will be laid at their feet to atonement.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:25:05am

re: #527 Belafon

If Kudlow helps Trump send us into recession, will CNBC let him back on?

Adding Kudlow to CNBC was the worst thing they could have done. It completely screwed up my 8 a.m. exercise routine because Kudlow is unwatchable.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:25:19am
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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:26:30am

re: #532 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I look forward to Dana Lash’s hate filled remarks against these students.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:27:41am

re: #509 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

M-1 Garands would have stopped those two dead in their tracks. I mention the M-1 because we had a stash of them when I was a deputy sheriff in California in the late 70s. Our normal issue weapons were a Colt Python revolver and a Winchester shotgun. The M-1s were for special conditions where range and penetration might be needed. I usually had one in the trunk when I worked in the desert.
Rifles like the AR-15, or the M-1 for that matter, are actually a poor choice for home defense since the high velocity bullets can easily go through walls and kill people in the next room or even the next house. Shotguns are ideal for this, not because they make up for poor accuracy (since shot spread is actually so small across a room as to make no difference) but because the right selection of shot can provide great stopping power with little risk of over-penetration. Conversely, if penetration is needed (suspects behind a car, for example) slug loads can do the job.

The M-1, I grant you, is a poor choice for home defense, unless you’re defending your home from Grizzly Bears. But the AR15 is increasingly touted as a great choice for home defense, precisely because (the argument goes)it DOESN’T overpenetrate. Bullets fragment upon hitting a first layer of wallboard and don’t make it through a second. Indeed (the argument continues) the .223 has less of an overpenetration problem than either 00 buckshot or any pistol round.

Mind you, I’m not by any means knowledgeable enough about guns to determine whether the argument is bullshit, but it’s a very, very popular claim. Just google “AR15 Home Defense”.

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Mattand  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:27:57am

re: #530 CongoJack

I have faith (and I’m not what you would call religious) that everything will be known by the end of this investigation and that all of the dirty dealings by the Rs will be laid at their feet to atonement.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:27:58am

re: #526 Skip Intro

Sure is a lot of arguing over a guy who’s going to be out of a job in a few months.

Isn’t the district going to get more Democratic in November, so maybe he’s not dead on arrival in Novemebr quite. I hear you though. It’s not like we’re making Lamb a presidential candidate or even a senate candidate.

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Jack Burton  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:28:11am

re: #527 Belafon

Of course they will. No one on CNBC ever actually gives good financial advice except in a broken clock is right twice a day way.

I think if you did the opposite of what any of them say, you’d be better off.

Especially during the last bubble boom-burst time. 2007-ish. CNBC “experts” shouldn’t be trusted for any reason after that and none of them should have jobs. But they do.

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:28:28am

re: #513 Mattand

I wouldn’t call it nihilism; I don’t trust people who say they stand for one thing and then campaign by saying “Wink wink, that’s not how I really feel”. Again, I hope I’m wrong. I think the whole trashing of Pelosi is what really got to me. He doesn’t have to pretend she’s a sinless angel, but it’s pandering that I question was necessary.

Maybe it was. That’s politics, I guess.

you are not wrong
it is politics.
experience has taught me that they all, every single one will “wink, wink”
and some not so subtly

because they are all politicians

knowing that i still want more d’s than r’s

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:28:59am

re: #534 Blind Frog Belly White

The M-1, I grant you, is a poor choice for home defense, unless you’re defending your home from Grizzly Bears. But the AR15 is increasingly touted as a great choice for home defense, precisely because (the argument goes)it DOESN’T overpenetrate. Bullets fragment upon hitting a first layer of wallboard and don’t make it through a second. Indeed (the argument continues) the .223 has less of an overpenetration problem than either 00 buckshot or any pistol round.

Mind you, I’m not by any means knowledgeable enough about guns to determine whether the argument is bullshit, but it’s a very, very popular claim. Just google “AR15 Home Defense”.

Or ‘Ze Germans’…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:30:03am

re: #534 Blind Frog Belly White

The M-1, I grant you, is a poor choice for home defense, unless you’re defending your home from Grizzly Bears. But the AR15 is increasingly touted as a great choice for home defense, precisely because (the argument goes)it DOESN’T overpenetrate. Bullets fragment upon hitting a first layer of wallboard and don’t make it through a second. Indeed (the argument continues) the .223 has less of an overpenetration problem than either 00 buckshot or any pistol round.

Mind you, I’m not by any means knowledgeable enough about guns to determine whether the argument is bullshit, but it’s a very, very popular claim. Just google “AR15 Home Defense”.

I’ve heard that. I think it is utter bullshit.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:30:13am

Every election is a trolley problem.

There is no “it can’t get worse” and no “it won’t get better,” there’s a huge distribution of incremental yes, it can possibilities. Human constructs—like law, ethics, and what constitutes good order—have no solidity, are infinitely mutable, and can be completely hollowed out even as the word itself is used to conjure legitimacy and respectability.

Your wins won’t stay wins because no concept is truly solid. We see this every day with both the formal transformation by precedent of civil liberties, but also in the ways “rights” are evoked informally to justify shit that it clearly take away other people’s rights. The fight never, ever ends.

Every policy struggle is a trolley problem, with the same parameters.

But here’s the rub…even when you make a sweeping change, it has to be propped up by bureaucracy and operational parameters. So there’s increments built into the revolution, and people that don’t have a plan for increments, or otherwise eschew their importance, make failed revolutions.

(That last bit is true of heads-on-pikes revolutions, too)

And opponents of revolutionary policy can, will, and do fight change by undermining those necessary sub-components and increments. We’ve been watching that since…well, since the 3/5s rules or so. The fight never ends.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:31:03am

re: #539 Blind Frog Belly White

Or ‘Ze Germans’…

WHITE! I WANT SOME SUPPRESSING FIRE ON THAT KRAUT BUNKER!

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CongoJack  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:31:58am

re: #537 Jack Burton

My family in the financial industry labels the channels like this:
1. Bloomberg - good info
2. CNBC - depending on the day/time/show it can be OK
3. Fox Business - if you want to get it wrong and listen to morons this is for you.

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A Mom Anon  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:32:22am

re: #465 ObserverArt

Isn’t it the job of Lamb’s constituents to apply pressure on him to vote for the things he’s waffling on? Let’s say he votes no on gun control. If so, dems in that district need to show up and raise a little hell. That’s what can move a blue dog to be less so. Watch him like a hawk and confront any bullshit. That’s what living in a country where you can elect representatives looks like.

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:33:11am

Okay, this sucks.

NEWTOWN, PA — Students at Council Rock North High School report school employees were blocking the doorways with chairs and desks during a 17-minute National School Walkout event Wednesday morning.

A student shared the images on Facebook. She said the teachers were blocking the doors and the school went into a campus lockdown from 9:30 a.m. to 10:30 a.m. Students were told by the district administration if they left the building, they would face discipline.

A spokeswoman for Council Rock said the desks were not placed to create a physical blockage but instead were utilized for taking attendance after the event. “We needed a system for student accounting and a space big enough to handle the potential of hundreds of participants. Students who intended to go outside were instructed to use another set of doors altogether and were in NO way impeded or stopped from exiting the building,” Susan O’Grady, Council Rock’s community relations specialist, said in an email to Patch.

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:33:24am

re: #520 Belafon

A stat from yesterday: Republicans spent $10M on yesterday’s election, Democrats spent approximately $2M.

i read (cant find the cite) that the dems spent a lot, very quietly on staffing and gotv
the r’s still think tv and radio ads and mailers are the way to win

dont clue them in

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:34:25am

re: #521 Skip Intro

UPDATE: Scott Baio has now agreed to host “Super Friends with Honey Badger Live Show” at Pyongyang Zoo, beginning at monthly salary of 10,000 Won.

Subject to good conduct and performance review.


Scott Baio terminated as host of “Super Friends with Honey Badger Live Show” at Pyongyang Zoo, for failing to disclose multiple conflicts of interest.

honey badger dont care

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:35:35am

re: #540 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I’ve heard that. I think it is utter bullshit.

Yeah, as I said, I don’t know. I DO know that you can find a lot of articles and blog posts touting it, and what I got from most of them convinced me that the same features that make the AR15 extremely popular with gun folks make them the weapon of choice for a mass shooting.

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Jack Burton  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:36:10am

re: #543 CongoJack

My family in the financial industry labels the channels like this:
1. Bloomberg - good info
2. CNBC - depending on the day/time/show it can be OK
3. Fox Business - if you want to get it wrong and listen to morons this is for you.

There might be some useful info on CNBC somewhere but I wouldn’t trust Larry Kudlow or Jim Kramer on anything as far as I could throw them.

And with my bad knee I shouldn’t be throwing anyone.

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William Lewis  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:37:44am

re: #534 Blind Frog Belly White

The M-1, I grant you, is a poor choice for home defense, unless you’re defending your home from Grizzly Bears. But the AR15 is increasingly touted as a great choice for home defense, precisely because (the argument goes)it DOESN’T overpenetrate. Bullets fragment upon hitting a first layer of wallboard and don’t make it through a second. Indeed (the argument continues) the .223 has less of an overpenetration problem than either 00 buckshot or any pistol round.

Mind you, I’m not by any means knowledgeable enough about guns to determine whether the argument is bullshit, but it’s a very, very popular claim. Just google “AR15 Home Defense”.

The same idiots that say that also tell you that the AR is a good deer rifle and that the .223 is just fine as an ethical hunting round. That needs a bullet that will penitrate and expand in a controlled manner. Those rounds will over penetrate as much as a .243 or .30 round will.

If you use frangible ammunition to avoid the overcompensation spoken above, then try to hunt with it, you’ll have lots of little fragments of bullet scattered through whatever muscle mass you hit in your, for example, deer. It may or may not bleed out as you go chasing it over hill and dale - because you aren’t just going to say “fuck it” and let it go to waste right?

For most needs - hunting, home defense, and sport shooting (Trap, skeet, sporting clays, etc) - a shotgun is the best firearm for most people. I’d like to have the money before next fall to get myself one again. Either a double barrel 12 or a pump 20 I think so as to put some woodies and mallards into my freezer.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:39:24am

re: #542 HappyWarrior

WHITE! I WANT SOME SUPPRESSING FIRE ON THAT KRAUT BUNKER!

One thing I really liked about “Band Of Brothers” was the *PLING* sound after 8 rounds from the M1s - *BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG/PLING*

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:39:31am

re: #516 jaunte

In other words, his heart could stop at any moment.

I have my suspicions that a good number of Trump minions indulge.

In a moment of weakness, he could conceivably die on the job.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:41:36am

re: #541 The Ghost of a Flea

Every election is a trolley problem.

Economic policy and social policy are interconnected. Not necessarily in the way that modern conservatives like to portray it: namely that if we were all moral and hard working, we would all be prosperous, if we just abolished government and cut taxation, the economy would be lifted by the invisible hand and the rising tide would lift all boats.

We need social policy that is based on family values: that is, making it possible to raise a family and offer them a chance at a better life. For that we need strong civic institutions, education and an economic climate that benefits both employers and workers, consumers and producers, insurers and the insured.

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:41:39am

Am I the only one that reads this and thinks that they were more in trouble for getting caught than being unethical?

Trump is disturbed by the bad headlines involving Carson and can’t believe he got himself into his current predicament, according to an administration official. Trump has made known across the Cabinet that he has no tolerance for ethics scandals, and the White House held private meetings with four Cabinet-level officials — including Carson, Shulkin, Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke and Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt — last month to scold them for embarrassing stories about questionable ethical behavior at their respective agencies, sources familiar with the sessions tell CNN.

I mean, it’s not like Trump and family have been setting a very high bar when it comes to ethical behavior.

Also, I can’t believe we’re not even half way through a full term and he’s thinking of replacing half his cabinet.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:42:52am

re: #536 HappyWarrior

Isn’t the district going to get more Democratic in November, so maybe he’s not dead on arrival in Novemebr quite. I hear you though. It’s not like we’re making Lamb a presidential candidate or even a senate candidate.

The district is going away as I understand it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:43:08am

re: #554 KGxvi

Am I the only one that reads this and thinks that they were more in trouble for getting caught than being unethical?

I mean, it’s not like Trump and family have been setting a very high bar when it comes to ethical behavior.

Also, I can’t believe we’re not even half way through a full term and he’s thinking of replacing half his cabinet.

I think the main thing that keeps him from replacing more of his cabinet is that he’s too weak to fire people face-to-face.

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:43:48am

re: #556 Blind Frog Belly White

I think the main thing that keeps him from replacing more of his cabinet is that he’s too weak to fire people face-to-face.

Well that and the fact that nobody with the experience and expertise necessary to do the jobs well actually want to work for him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:43:57am

re: #555 Skip Intro

The district is going away as I understand it.

IIRC, Lamb will be running in the 17th CD, which will be considerably less red than the current 18th.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:45:16am

re: #551 Blind Frog Belly White

One thing I really liked about “Band Of Brothers” was the *PLING* sound after 8 rounds from the M1s - *BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG/PLING*

The distinctive metallic noise of an ejecting Garand clip. There were rumors the Germans grew to recognize the sound and timed their attacks for when the American rifles were empty, but I don’t think there is any substantive evidence to support it. It was, however, taken seriously enough that the Springfield Armory started experiments with plastic disposable Garand clips.

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Frenchy  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:45:55am

re: #554 KGxvi

Trump has made known across the Cabinet that he has no tolerance for ethics scandals

LOL

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gocart mozart  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:46:02am

This guy just followed me. ??

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:46:03am

re: #553 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Economic policy and social policy are interconnected. Not necessarily in the way that modern conservatives like to portray it: namely that if we were all moral and hard working, we would all be prosperous, if we just abolished government and cut taxation, the economy would be lifted by the invisible hand and the rising tide would lift all boats.

We need social policy that is based on family values: that is, making it possible to raise a family and offer them a chance at a better life. For that we need strong civic institutions, education and an economic climate that benefits both employers and workers, consumers and producers, insurers and the insured.

I remember being told by a Conservative once that if only Americans would be more frugal, only buy what they needed, and not borrow to spend, that the economy would boom like never before.

It’s like he didn’t have any idea where economic activity comes from.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:46:29am

re: #555 Skip Intro

The district is going away as I understand it.

Where he lives will be a part of the new Democratic district this fall. He’s essentially the incumbent in that district.

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:46:34am

re: #548 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, as I said, I don’t know. I DO know that you can find a lot of articles and blog posts touting it, and what I got from most of them convinced me that the same features that make the AR15 extremely popular with gun folks make them the weapon of choice for a mass shooting.

that is essentially what marco rubio said the day after parkland
and we still shouldnt try to control them because deer rifles
stunningly tone deaf

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:46:35am

re: #560 Frenchy

LOL

The spoils are only for the immediate family.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:46:42am

re: #557 KGxvi

Well that and the fact that nobody with the experience and expertise necessary to do the jobs well actually want to work for him.

This is what a lot of people deride as the “Deep State”: government professionals whose tasks and careers span more than one administration. They have to ensure that government will continue to function even after Trump has left and are not willing to dismantle or destroy it for the sake of his personal agenda.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:47:26am

re: #551 Blind Frog Belly White

One thing I really liked about “Band Of Brothers” was the *PLING* sound after 8 rounds from the M1s - *BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG/PLING*

Still the best WWII dramatization IMO.

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:47:37am

re: #514 jaunte

Larry Kudlow, admitted to having a $100,000/month cocaine addiction, or the fact that he claimed the economy was going to boom right before the Great Recession

Seems like those things are probably related.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:47:52am

re: #559 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The distinctive metallic noise of an ejecting Garand clip. There were rumors the Germans grew to recognize the sound and timed their attacks for when the American rifles were empty, but I don’t think there is any substantive evidence to support it. It was, however, taken seriously enough that the Springfield Armory started experiments with plastic disposable Garand clips.

one drawback of a Garand was that it was not possible to top up a clip that had already been fired from, you had to wait until it popped its clip and reload a whole new one.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:47:55am

re: #555 Skip Intro

The district is going away as I understand it.

I think you’re right but the district he’ll be running in is more Democratic since it has more of the city of Pittsburgh.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:49:00am

re: #564 dangerman

that is essentially what marco rubio said the day after parkland
and we still shouldnt try to control them because deer rifles
stunningly tone deaf

I actually got a gun enthusiast on FB to accept the idea of limiting magazine capacity, even outlawing detachable magazines. If you had to reload an AR15 with a stripper clip every 10 rounds, they’d do a lot less damage.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:49:27am

re: #555 Skip Intro

The district is going away as I understand it.

No districts are being abolished in Pa; it will still have the same number it had before. But the borders are being heavily redrawn, and I’m not sure which district Lamb will run in.

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:49:44am

re: #566 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is what a lot of people deride as the “Deep State”: government professionals whose tasks and careers span more than one administration. They have to ensure that government will continue to function even after Trump has left and are not willing to dismantle or destroy it for the sake of his personal agenda.

Right, but he can’t even get the qualified political appointees anymore. No sane Senator, Governor, or Congressperson is going to take a gig on his cabinet after seeing the shitshow that has been the 14 months of this administration.

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:51:27am

re: #553 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Economic policy and social policy are interconnected. Not necessarily in the way that modern conservatives like to portray it: namely that if we were all moral and hard working, we would all be prosperous, if we just abolished government and cut taxation, the economy would be lifted by the invisible hand and the rising tide would lift all boats.

We need social policy that is based on family values: that is, making it possible to raise a family and offer them a chance at a better life. For that we need strong civic institutions, education and an economic climate that benefits both employers and workers, consumers and producers, insurers and the insured.

everybody doesnt start in a boat
everybody doesnt have a boat
some people lose their boats through no fault of their own

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:53:25am

re: #569 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

one drawback of a Garand was that it was not possible to top up a clip that had already been fired from, you had to wait until it popped its clip and reload a whole new one.

No ‘Tactical Reloads’, eh?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:53:30am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:53:41am

re: #516 jaunte

In other words, his heart could stop at any moment.

Kudlow has a heart?

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:53:45am

re: #574 dangerman

everybody doesnt start in a boat
everybody doesnt have a boat
some people lose their boats through no fault of their own

Some people use their boats to sink other people’s boats.

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:54:04am

re: #554 KGxvi

Am I the only one that reads this and thinks that they were more in trouble for getting caught than being unethical?

I mean, it’s not like Trump and family have been setting a very high bar when it comes to ethical behavior.

Also, I can’t believe we’re not even half way through a full term and he’s thinking of replacing half his cabinet.

this part is wrong:

Trump has made known across the Cabinet that he has no tolerance for ethics scandals

he has no tolerance for publicized ethical scandals

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:54:13am

re: #534 Blind Frog Belly White

If they’re claiming that do they at least add the caveat that frangible rounds are required?

If not, they don’t know squat about firearms. A regular 5.56mm round will have little trouble penetrating drywall at close ranges.

If someone breaks into your house go out the back door and let them have your TV. It’s not worth killing for or dying over.

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jaunte  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:54:15am

re: #578 KGxvi

The S.S. DeVos

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:54:57am

well oiled machine…

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Jack Burton  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:55:53am

re: #582 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Only the best people…”

“You will get tired of winning.”

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retired cynic  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:57:09am

re: #365 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

30% of voters are solid Trump, there is nothing he can do that will not just fuel their admiration and devotion. The rest of the electorate, I believe, can be reached by sound policies, candidates and arguments.

Our goal should be to reach the reachable, and then create a system that nibbles away at reducing that 27%, by them dying off, and having a society that works for all. That makes them irrelevant.

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:57:25am

re: #578 KGxvi

Some people use their boats to sink other people’s boats.

yes, that

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:58:25am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:58:49am

re: #580 Romantic Heretic

If they’re claiming that do they at least add the caveat that frangible rounds are required?

If not, they don’t know squat about firearms. A regular 5.56mm round will have little trouble penetrating drywall at close ranges.

If someone breaks into your house go out the back door and let them have your TV. It’s not worth killing for or dying over.

IIRC, they weren’t specifically frangible rounds, but were expanding rounds, which blew up anyway upon hitting the wallboard a 3000fps.

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:59:52am

re: #582 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump has discussed a plan to fire Attorney General Jeff Sessions and replace him with EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt, according to two Republicans in contact with the White House

And here’s why…

In 2010, Pruitt was elected Attorney General of Oklahoma. In that role, he opposed abortion rights, same-sex marriage, the Affordable Care Act, and environmental regulations as a self-described “leading advocate against the EPA’s activist agenda.”

A conservative wet dream for AG.

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2018 • 11:59:52am

re: #584 retired cynic

Our goal should be to reach the reachable, and then create a system that nibbles away at reducing that 27%, by them dying off, and having a society that works for all. That makes them irrelevant.

I had some hope that having two actual former governors on the Libertarian Party ticket in 2016 that we’d see some people abandon the Trump trainwreck. Unfortunately, Johnson turned out to be so underwhelming/unqualified/ridiculous that it just wasn’t going to happen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:00:56pm
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lizardofid  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:01:16pm

re: #559 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The distinctive metallic noise of an ejecting Garand clip. There were rumors the Germans grew to recognize the sound and timed their attacks for when the American rifles were empty, but I don’t think there is any substantive evidence to support it. It was, however, taken seriously enough that the Springfield Armory started experiments with plastic disposable Garand clips.

Don’t forget the tracer rounds!

Edit: At least the old surplus stuff we shot.

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:01:24pm

re: #588 makeitstop

And here’s why…

he opposed abortion rights, same-sex marriage, the Affordable Care Act, and environmental regulations as a self-described “leading advocate against the EPA’s activist agenda.”

A conservative wet dream for AG.

And then continued to routinely lose cases before the Supreme Court on those issues.

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Skip Intro  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:01:39pm

re: #588 makeitstop

And here’s why…

A conservative wet dream for AG.

Or the Supreme Court.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:02:03pm

re: #551 Blind Frog Belly White

What I liked about Band of Brothers is that, as a grognard, I didn’t once go, “Bzzzzt! Wrong!”

They even had a Cromwell, for God’s sake!

Speaking of which, here’s an interesting article about tank restorers in Belarus.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:02:31pm

re: #590 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Look at the aggregate, Mr. Speaker. If you’re not afraid for your job, you’re an idiot, because you should be.

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wrenchwench  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:02:56pm

re: #582 Backwoods_Sleuth

well oiled machine…

[Embedded content]

Too much oil. They’re sliding right out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:03:05pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:03:05pm

re: #533 Skip Intro

I look forward to Dana Lash’s hate filled remarks against these students.

A good NRA gal with a gun can defeat a gong every time. Take that student liberals.

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:04:59pm

re: #593 Skip Intro

Or the Supreme Court.

Who was the last Supreme Court justice who had held elective office? Warren?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:05:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:05:14pm

because, of course…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:05:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:05:56pm
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Dave In Austin  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:06:50pm
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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:07:46pm

re: #603 Backwoods_Sleuth

Except Laura and her ilk have made the GOP inhospitable for a lot of us who might have once found a “natural home” there.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:07:47pm

re: #603 Backwoods_Sleuth

Watching @ConorLambPA this morning. He’s basically a younger @TomCottonAR. Come on, Conor, your natural home is the GOP.

— Laura Ingraham

Yeah, Laura, with your MAGA hat and Deplorable tee-shirt. FO.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:07:57pm

re: #601 Backwoods_Sleuth

because, of course…

[Embedded content]

Because close elections never can benefit Democrats. These fuckers.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:08:40pm

re: #603 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Uh no Laura. If he wanted to be with your shitty party, he would have registered with your shitty party.

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:09:04pm

re: #586 Backwoods_Sleuth

Great meeting @KyleKashuv today - an extraordinary young man with a heart for helping those around him. We had a productive discussion about bipartisan ways we can address school safety and keep kids safe.

note in one month its gone from:

gun safety, gun control, age restrictions, bump stocks, background checks, etc etc

to

“school safety”
and that can mean anything they damn well decide it means

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:10:36pm

re: #605 KGxvi

Except Laura and her ilk have made the GOP inhospitable for a lot of us who might have once found a “natural home” there.

Isn’t Laura basically an anti-immigrant white supremacist? The last time Conor Lamb would have fit into the Republican party was probably during the Eisenhower era. When that GOP returns, he might reconsider his membership.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:11:26pm

re: #587 Blind Frog Belly White

If that’s the case then they’re advocating using rounds that are illegal under the Geneva Convention.

Why? Because those rounds are designed to cause hideous wounds which forces the unit the casualty is in to expend more effort to keep the soldier alive. Not too mention being horribly painful and disfiguring. A person shot with a solid round in the gut hurts a lot but it can be managed. Shot in the shoulder or upper chest, the same. Those spots hit with an expanding round means flopping around the ground screaming and the medics asking, “What the fuck am I supposed to do?”

Nice people those ammosexuals.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:12:00pm

re: #595 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Look at the aggregate, Mr. Speaker. If you’re not afraid for your job, you’re an idiot, because you should be.

Yep, the Democrats don’t have to win a single R+11 District like the 18th in order to gain a House majority in November. If they are winning districts like that, Ryan might lose his own seat, much less the Speakership.

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makeitstop  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:12:39pm

re: #606 Sir John Barron

Yeah, Laura, with your MAGA hat and Deplorable tee-shirt. FO.

And ‘special salute.’

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:14:38pm

re: #610 Hecuba’s daughter

Isn’t Laura basically an anti-immigrant white supremacist? The last time Conor Lamb would have fit into the Republican party was probably during the Eisenhower era. When that GOP returns, he might reconsider his membership.

For me the last straw was 2004 - I kept my registration for a little while still out of pure laziness, but the purple heart band aids and the convention speeches of Obama and Zell Miller made it clear to me that I didn’t have a place in the GOP anymore.

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Belafon  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:15:29pm

re: #609 dangerman

note in one month its gone from:

gun safety, gun control, age restrictions, bump stocks, background checks, etc etc

to

“school safety”
and that can mean anything they damn well decide it means

They’re masters at propaganda except when dealing with the kids #602 .

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:15:51pm

re: #601 Backwoods_Sleuth

because, of course…

NRCC chair @RepSteveStivers suggests there might have been some sort of voter fraud involved in @ConorLambPA’s win: “There are some questions that our attorneys are looking into. We heard from a lot of voters & we’re gonna take those issues pretty seriously.”

“some sort of voter fraud” - ie we got nothing so we’re going with this unprovable thing

“we heard from a lot of voters” - what did you hear specifically? and what exactly would “a lot of voters” actually know?

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:15:55pm

re: #614 KGxvi

For me the last straw was 2004 - I kept my registration for a little while still out of pure laziness, but the purple heart band aids and the convention speeches of Obama and Zell Miller made it clear to me that I didn’t have a place in the GOP anymore.

It is sort of interesting that it took a Democrat speaking at the RNC to realize you had no place in the GOP. No knock, that Miller speech was awful. I still remember it for how over the top it was and how nasty that convention was. It’s why I’m in no rush to rehabilitate the Bush campaign and people. Teh attacks on Kerry were awful.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:16:12pm

re: #603 Backwoods_Sleuth

Watching @ConorLambPA this morning. He’s basically a younger @TomCottonAR. Come on, Conor, your natural home is the GOP.

— Laura Ingraham

Yeah don’t mind all the hate ads we ran against you, all the names we called you, we never meant any of that, because we’re very principled conservatives. If you do, here’s what you can expect—Make one bad vote we’ll crucify you on social media and through FNC. We’ll call you a RINO and primary your ass. Come join us!

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:16:12pm

re: #616 dangerman

“some sort of voter fraud” - ie we got nothing so we’re going with this unprovable thing

“we heard from a lot of voters” - what did you hear specifically? and what exactly would “a lot of voters” actually know?

Some black people voted. //

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Sir John Barron  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:18:06pm

re: #619 HappyWarrior

Some black people voted. //

“We lost by 600 votes. If we’d won we wouldn’t care.”

/

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:19:21pm

re: #620 Sir John Barron

“We lost by 600 votes. If we’d won we wouldn’t care.”

/

Yep, if they had won by that same amount, they’d be telling Lamb to give up. Honestly I’ve seen enough close elections here in Va to know that they do happen. Hypocrisy from the Sore Loserman party, never!

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A Mom Anon  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:19:49pm

re: #615 Belafon
These young people have a lot of advantages over the old white fuckers in charge(for now, moohaha). They’re educated, very tech savvy, motivated, and about to be registered voters for the first time. That teenage smart ass/defiance works in their favor too. It scares the shit out of a lot of people in power.

Good. I hope they’re shitting themselves.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:20:29pm

re: #622 A Mom Anon

These young people have a lot of advantages over the old white fuckers in charge(for now, moohaha). They’re educated, very tech savvy, motivated, and about to be registered voters for the first time. That teenage smart ass/defiance works in their favor too. It scares the shit out of a lot of people in power.

Good. I hope they’re shitting themselves.

They are shitting themselves. I can tell you that because my wingnut friend has trash talked them twice already today.

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:20:42pm

re: #603 Backwoods_Sleuth

Watching @ConorLambPA this morning. He’s basically a younger @TomCottonAR. Come on, Conor, your natural home is the GOP.

our guy couldnt win so we’re gonna take theirs

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dangerman  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:22:20pm

re: #612 Big Beautiful Door

Yep, the Democrats don’t have to win a single R+11 District like the 18th in order to gain a House majority in November. If they are winning districts like that, Ryan might lose his own seat, much less the Speakership.

(shhhhhh)

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:22:46pm

re: #624 dangerman

our guy couldnt win so we’re gonna take theirs

Fun fact but the GOP also tried to get Ralph Northam to switch to their party when Ralph was in the state senate here.

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:24:22pm

re: #617 HappyWarrior

It is sort of interesting that it took a Democrat speaking at the RNC to realize you had no place in the GOP. No knock, that Miller speech was awful. I still remember it for how over the top it was and how nasty that convention was. It’s why I’m in no rush to rehabilitate the Bush campaign and people. Teh attacks on Kerry were awful.

I’d always been fairly libertarian in my leanings - still am, I think, though probably center left more than center right today - but the fire and brimstone of that rant, and the way it was received made it clear to me that there wasn’t a place for someone who supported gay marriage and abortion rights or who thought the war on drugs was stupid and causing major problems within the criminal justice system.

And for a party that claimed to love the troops and veterans so much to mock someone who served in Vietnam, who actually enlisted, with those stupid band aids, it was just shocking to me.

Obama’s speech, on the other hand, I remember right after saying that he’d be president one day (didn’t expect it to be so soon). It was so positive and called on us to live up to our own self-image.

I think I still voted third party that year because I just wasn’t sure about Kerry, and I wasn’t about to swing the vote in California.

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KGxvi  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:25:41pm

re: #619 HappyWarrior

Some black people voted. //

I heard/read the other day that the district is like 93% white.

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HappyWarrior(Not Larry Kudlow)  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:26:17pm

re: #627 KGxvi

I’d always been fairly libertarian in my leanings - still am, I think, though probably center left more than center right today - but the fire and brimstone of that rant, and the way it was received made it clear to me that there wasn’t a place for someone who supported gay marriage and abortion rights or who thought the war on drugs was stupid and causing major problems within the criminal justice system.

And for a party that claimed to love the troops and veterans so much to mock someone who served in Vietnam, who actually enlisted, with those stupid band aids, it was just shocking to me.

Obama’s speech, on the other hand, I remember right after saying that he’d be president one day (didn’t expect it to be so soon). It was so positive and called on us to live up to our own self-image.

I think I still voted third party that year because I just wasn’t sure about Kerry, and I wasn’t about to swing the vote in California.

Oh I know. If there was a line in the sand moment to have, that was it. Obama’s speech was great as was Miller’s awful. And yes those stupid band aids were the product of a Virginia GOP activist who I see quoted here now and then since he’s a big part of the Va GOP activists.

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ObserverArt  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:27:08pm

re: #601 Backwoods_Sleuth

because, of course…

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Fuck Steve “I’m a moderate interested in bipartisan legislation, but never get around to it” Stivers.

He is the third Ohio congressman that has part of his district in the central Ohio area. Too many times I have to watch him on local TV.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:29:53pm

re: #611 Romantic Heretic

If that’s the case then they’re advocating using rounds that are illegal under the Geneva Convention.

Why? Because those rounds are designed to cause hideous wounds which forces the unit the casualty is in to expend more effort to keep the soldier alive. Not too mention being horribly painful and disfiguring. A person shot with a solid round in the gut hurts a lot but it can be managed. Shot in the shoulder or upper chest, the same. Those spots hit with an expanding round means flopping around the ground screaming and the medics asking, “What the fuck am I supposed to do?”

Nice people those ammosexuals.

That’s true of practically every round used by police, hunters, home defense, etc. Almost nobody uses FMJ rounds except the military, I believe.

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sagehen  Mar 14, 2018 • 12:53:10pm

re: #510 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They were a lot more popular in the 1930’s than British history would like to let on, and had lots of influential supporters among the ruling classes as well.

Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson were Nazi sympathizers… that’s the real reason the family forced him to abdicate. It wasn’t just because Wallis was a twice-divorced sleaze.


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