The Bob Cesca Show: Second String Doocy

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Second String Doocy: NSFW; Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; We’re both sick now; Michael Moore and Bernie Sanders think Russia is a distraction; Trump congratulated Putin; Trump without training wheels; The Cambridge Analytica story heats up; Facebook under fire for allowing data harvesting; The Candidate Is The Puppet; Trump fired and humiliated Andrew McCabe; Will Trump fire Mueller next; Trump’s new lawyers; White House staff had to sign NDAs; and much more.

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511 comments

1
Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:08:07am

And now The Fed has raised interest rates to “cool down” the economy…

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Kragar  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:12:56am
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Bubblehead II  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:13:44am

Someone needs to animate that gif so his head swirls around the toilet as it disappears.

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BeachDem  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:15:32am

Reuters article about Condit:

The quiet, home-schooled son…

the Conditt family, who lived in a neat white house with a blue picket fence around the front porch…

“They are a really nice, calm family,” said retiree Jeff Reeb, who lives next door. “They have always been extremely nice.”

Takes me back to 2014:

When The Media Treats White Suspects And Killers Better Than Black Victims

huffingtonpost.com

Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose. Spit

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dangerman  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:17:25am

the problem in a nutshell

“The president is, as you know — you’ve seen his numbers among the Republican base — it’s very strong. It’s more than strong, it’s tribal in nature. People who tell me, who are out on trail, say, look, people don’t ask about issues anymore. They don’t care about issues. They want to know if you’re with Trump or not.

bob corker via washington examiner via political-wire.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:17:25am

re: #4 BeachDem

Reuters article about Condit:

Takes me back to 2014:

When The Media Treats White Suspects And Killers Better Than Black Victims

huffingtonpost.com

Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose. Spit

“Lone Wolf”; “We may never know why…”

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:18:08am

re: #1 Joe Bacon

Honest question-How good does an economy need to be to justify interest rate hikes? A “normal” economy has much higher rates. seems to me Wall street enjoys a lot a cash that would be in T bills and savings in interest were not so low.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:20:54am

re: #1 Joe Bacon 🌹

The Czech National Bank is actually thinking of doing that in the immediate future; we’re at 2.3% unemployment and the CNB is genuinely concerned about the Czech economy overheating.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:20:56am

re: #1 Joe Bacon 🌹

And now The Fed has raised interest rates to “cool down” the economy…

This is why these optimistic projections of economic growth made by various administrations always seems unreasonable—the economy starts growing too much and the Fed raises interests to head off inflation.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:22:56am

re: #9 Sir John Barron

This is why these optimistic projections of economic growth made by various administrations always seems unreasonable—the economy starts growing too much and the Fed raises interests to head off inflation.

—optimistic and unrealistic estimates of rapid economic growth made in part to encourage the idea that tax cuts will so boost the economy that deficits will be eliminated.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:23:18am

re: #8 Dr Lizardo

And just to add, naturally there’s a certain point of pride among Czechs in having the lowest unemployment rate in the EU…..and indeed, I’d say, in the industrialized world.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:27:43am

re: #4 BeachDem

What difference does it make if he comes from a nice family? I don’t get it.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:29:44am

re: #6 Blind Frog Belly White

“Lone Wolf”; “We may never know why…”

Has SMOTI claimed the bomber is a registered Democrat yet?

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:30:43am

re: #12 Patricia Kayden

What difference does it make if he comes from a nice family? I don’t get it.

The banality of evil coupled with a media that treats white killers better and with more deference than victims who are black.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:31:20am

re: #7 Unshaken Defiance

Honest question-How good does an economy need to be to justify interest rate hikes? A “normal” economy has much higher rates. seems to me Wall street enjoys a lot a cash that would be in T bills and savings in interest were not so low.

It’s more a question of inflation, not just the economy being ‘good’. If the labor market gets tight enough, wages rise as employers compete for workers. If wages rise too fast, inflation rises above the 2% target rate, and that’s when they’ll start clamping down.

WRT T-bills, the low yields on those are not only driven by the Fed’s interest rate, but also by the fact that people keep buying them, even if the yield is below the expected rate of inflation, because they’re considered the safest investment in the world.

The thing is, for the last decade, inflation has been below target. I think a lot of that has been that people are too frightened by the prospect of unemployment that they won’t take the risk of pushing for raises.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:31:34am

re: #14 lawhawk

The banality of evil coupled with a media that treats white killers better and with more deference than victims who are black.

See, Martin, Treyvon. He gets treated like a thug where Zimmerman who before and after had problems with various people including his spouse got treated like a concerned neighbor.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:31:38am

re: #11 Dr Lizardo

And just to add, naturally there’s a certain point of pride among Czechs in having the lowest unemployment rate in the EU…..and indeed, I’d say, in the industrialized world.

Do they have a high labor force participation rate among prime age workers? Because for example in the US the participation rate among the 25-54 demographic still isn’t that high so the low uemployment rate doesn’t tell the whole story.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:32:22am

re: #13 Big Beautiful Door

Has SMOTI claimed the bomber is a registered Democrat yet?

Dunno. I’m not gonna look, but I’ll hold your glass while you go check.
/

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:33:40am

re: #18 Blind Frog Belly White

Dunno. I’m not gonna look, but I’ll hold your glass while you go check.
/

I’d go look but I have a fractured orbital eye socket.

//

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:33:59am

re: #12 Patricia Kayden

What difference does it make if he comes from a nice family? I don’t get it.

He’s just like us. Not one of those poors or minorities that you can’t possibly sympathize with.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:34:48am

re: #12 Patricia Kayden

What difference does it make if he comes from a nice family? I don’t get it.

That means he’s white.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:34:51am

re: #18 Blind Frog Belly White

Dunno. I’m not gonna look, but I’ll hold your glass while you go check.
/

SMOTI hasn’t, but posters have in the comments.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:34:55am

re: #20 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

He’s just like us. Not one of those poors or minorities that you can’t possibly sympathize with.

Yep.

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Bubblehead II  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:40:26am

re: #22 Big Beautiful Door

SMOTI hasn’t, but posters have in the comments.

Don’t read the comments.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:42:13am

re: #24 Bubblehead II

Don’t read the comments.

Mos Eisley Spaceport. The comments section. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be careful.”

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:42:42am

re: #17 Big Beautiful Door

Do they have a high labor force participation rate among prime age workers? Because for example in the US the participation rate among the 25-54 demographic still isn’t that high so the low uemployment rate doesn’t tell the whole story.

Yes, it’s quite high here. 71.7% according to the data.

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Kragar  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:42:47am

re: #25 Blind Frog Belly White

Mos Eisley Spaceport. The comments section. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be careful.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:44:16am

re: #27 Kragar

No! Not Zee Face!
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Eventual Carrion  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:44:52am

re: #12 Patricia Kayden

What difference does it make if he comes from a nice family? I don’t get it.

Yeah, the Menéndez brothers came from a good family too.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:46:32am
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Mike Lamb  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:47:07am

re: #7 Unshaken Defiance

Honest question-How good does an economy need to be to justify interest rate hikes? A “normal” economy has much higher rates. seems to me Wall street enjoys a lot a cash that would be in T bills and savings in interest were not so low.

That issue was addressed a bit on, I believe, NPR, when discussing anticipated rate hikes. The interview subject basically said that even though the Feds would likely raise rates, we weren’t seeing much empirical evidence that said inflation was a concern. Seemed to imply that the notion of an “overheated” economy was a little like the Laffer Curve in that yes, very low employment leading to increased wages leading to inflation is true in theory, but we have no idea what the trigger point is for determining when action to slow things down is appropriate.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:47:28am

re: #29 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, the Menéndez brothers came from a good family too.

People always want someone they can blame for things like this. It has to be that he was mistreated by his family, or played too many violent videogames, or something.

Sometimes, it’s just bad protoplasm.

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:48:53am
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Jack Burton  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:48:55am

There’s a magic potion that makes you forget about the comments sections on the internet.

It’s called bleach.

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thecommodore  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:49:49am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:50:43am

re: #35 thecommodore

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We should ban Christians from entering. //

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:50:51am

re: #32 Blind Frog Belly White

People always want someone they can blame for things like this. It has to be that he was mistreated by his family, or played too many violent videogames, or something.

Sometimes, it’s just bad protoplasm.

I don’t recall the media ever saying “he came from a good family” if the perp or victim was black.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:50:53am

re: #34 Jack Burton

Yes. Brain bleach. That is what I need after seeing Trump’s face and the golden throne.
::: shudder :::

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:51:14am

re: #35 thecommodore

He looks like a mix of Ben Shapiro, Alfred E. Neuman and Trollface.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:51:19am

re: #31 Mike Lamb

That issue was addressed a bit on, I believe, NPR, when discussing anticipated rate hikes. The interview subject basically said that even though the Feds would likely raise rates, we weren’t seeing much empirical evidence that said inflation was a concern. Seemed to imply that the notion of an “overheated” economy was a little like the Laffer Curve in that yes, very low employment leading to increased wages leading to inflation is true in theory, but we have no idea what the trigger point is for determining when action to slow things down is appropriate.

It’s what happens when your theory of economics is too limited. For example, Conservative economists JUST KNEW that Obama’s stimulus bill, and Quantitative Easing would cause massive inflation, because that’s what their economic theory said. They couldn’t understand why it didn’t. But I was following Krugman, whose predictions were right on the money.

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:51:57am
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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:52:19am

re: #39 jaunte

He looks like a mix of Ben Shapiro, Alfred E. Neuman and Trollface.

Maybe it’s that I’ve been watching American Crime Story but a little Andrew Cuanahan?

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:53:35am

Low inflation benefits the wealthy, because it keeps the money they’re sitting on from depreciating. That’s one of the reasons why they’re raising interest rates to slow the economy down. The other is to make sure the plebs don’t get too used to the idea of being comfortable.

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Kragar  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:54:31am
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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:55:48am

re: #31 Mike Lamb

That issue was addressed a bit on, I believe, NPR, when discussing anticipated rate hikes. The interview subject basically said that even though the Feds would likely raise rates, we weren’t seeing much empirical evidence that said inflation was a concern. Seemed to imply that the notion of an “overheated” economy was a little like the Laffer Curve in that yes, very low employment leading to increased wages leading to inflation is true in theory, but we have no idea what the trigger point is for determining when action to slow things down is appropriate.

It’s almost like something as complicated as a broad based economy based on 350 million people working in multiple sectors and trading not just internally but externally can’t be explained or understood in 20 word sound bites.

I’ll be damned.

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allegro  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:56:06am

My theory of the moment WRT the Austin Bomber…

He was 23-24, unemployed since last year. He targeted minorities who were taking all the jobs and thus the cause of his problems per RWNJ/Fox/Trump.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:56:10am

Gonna call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:57:15am

re: #37 Skip Intro

I don’t recall the media ever saying “he came from a good family” if the perp or victim was black.

Well, duh. “He chose the thug life”.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:58:23am

re: #44 Kragar

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I don’t always agree with Antifa but props to them. The Altright deserves to be harassed and ruined.

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dangerman  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:58:27am

re: #45 KGxvi

It’s almost like something as complicated as a broad based economy based on 350 million people working in multiple sectors and trading not just internally but externally can’t be explained or understood in 20 word sound bites.

I’ll be damned.

who knew economics was hard?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:58:37am

re: #33 JordanRules

Jereb is going to be so happy.
He’s been craving all this attention. it’s Florida, so there’s little doubt any weapons they find will be completely legal.

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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2018 • 11:59:17am

re: #43 Belafon

Low inflation benefits the wealthy, because it keeps the money they’re sitting on from depreciating. That’s one of the reasons why they’re raising interest rates to slow the economy down. The other is to make sure the plebs don’t get too used to the idea of being comfortable.

Low interest rates also spur people to spend more money. If you can buy stuff on credit with low interest rates, and/or not benefit from saving money, you’re more likely to spend. People spending money is generally good for the economy.

Ideally, if they’re raising rates it in order to deflate a potential bubble before it just bursts and we are all fucked.

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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:00:04pm

re: #50 dangerman

who knew economics was hard?

Harry Truman and his one armed economist?

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Kragar  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:02:24pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

I don’t always agree with Antifa but props to them. The Altright deserves to be harassed and ruined.

Can’t argue with this.

“Antifa, as I’ve explained before, has no political ideology beyond “Don’t be a fucking fascist.” There is no such thing as an “Antifa” party or candidate. There can’t be. The sole organizing principle is to fight fascism by any means necessary.”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:03:30pm

re: #54 Kragar

Can’t argue with this.

Yep and I agree with that.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:04:47pm

re: #44 Kragar

Good.

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Citizen K  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:04:56pm

I still think Klein undersells the CA stuff in how much that stuff fed into the media obsession, but yeah.

And sadly, it worked beyond all measure. Clinton may well be treated like a pariah with a significant section of Dems wanting to totally burn her and strike her from all existence because ‘she’s toxic’, never understanding that the whole reason she’s ‘toxic’ is the barely fathomable full-media onslaught demonizing her 24/7, making it impossible to actually judge her on merits. Oh, and the continued double standard of how things said 30 years ago mean more than what the GOP candidate said 5 minutes ago, compared to what he said 4 minutes ago.

I’m still terrified of a full-on ratfucking come November with the lefter-than-thous voting out of spite to burn the Dem party down and let the GOP get their vaunted eternal majority because clearly that will be the way toward progressive utopia…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:06:13pm

re: #57 Citizen K

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I still think Klein undersells the CA stuff in how much that stuff fed into the media obsession, but yeah.

And sadly, it worked beyond all measure. Clinton may well be treated like a pariah with a significant section of Dems wanting to totally burn her and strike her from all existence because ‘she’s toxic’, never understanding that the whole reason she’s ‘toxic’ is the barely fathomable full-media onslaught demonizing her 24/7, making it impossible to actually judge her on merits. Oh, and the continued double standard of how things said 30 years ago mean more than what the GOP candidate said 5 minutes ago, compared to what he said 4 minutes ago.

I’m still terrified of a full-on ratfucking come November with the lefter-than-thous voting out of spite to burn the Dem party down and let the GOP get their vaunted eternal majority because clearly that will be the way toward progressive utopia…

He’s not wrong. We had the most progressive Dem platform ever and the BBs still fell for the lies and misinformation.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:06:55pm

re: #48 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, duh. “He chose the thug life”.

Updated: Black man shot by police was carrying cellphone, not ‘tool bar,’ when he was shot, department says

Now a white guy could have been carrying an assault rifle and gotten off a couple of shots and still have been taken alive. This poor bastard was killed for carrying a cell phone.

No where in the story do the reporters say he came from a good home.

sacbee.com

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:07:40pm

I guess that’s why they’re falling over themselves telling us what a nice family the now deceased terrorist came from.

Right-Wing Media Figures Cry Anti-White Racism After Austin Bombing Suspect’s Identity Revealed

The usual suspects are falling into line; Watson, Coulter, and a menagerie of other Nazis.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:08:35pm

re: #60 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I guess that’s why they’re falling over themselves telling us what a nice family the now deceased terrorist came from.

Right-Wing Media Figures Cry Anti-White Racism After Austin Bombing Suspect’s Identity Revealed

The usual suspects are falling into line; Watson, Coulter, and a menagerie of other Nazis.

I’ve never been discriminated against for being white. I’ve been told correctly I must add that I had certain privileges because I am white.

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:08:46pm

re: #44 Kragar

What they and the MSD kids have in common: You can’t reason with everyone. Sometimes, you just have to take a stand.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:09:33pm

re: #43 Belafon

Low inflation benefits the wealthy, because it keeps the money they’re sitting on from depreciating. That’s one of the reasons why they’re raising interest rates to slow the economy down. The other is to make sure the plebs don’t get too used to the idea of being comfortable.

We-e-ell…..

I can tell you, having grown up in the 60s and 70s, that high inflation is a serious problem. Everything keeps costing more, and it’s hard to keep up for most folks. It’s especially bad for folks on fixed incomes. The inflation we had in the 70s was bad shit, especially because it was accompanied by high interest rates on loans. I remember a friend who bought a house in 1982 and had a mortgage rate something like 19%.

HOWEVER, inflation that’s too low is also a problem. With a reasonable rate of inflation, your debts become less onerous even faster than you pay them off, because they’re in nominal dollars, so your debt in real dollars declines, and your payments become a smaller and smaller percentage of your income.

The last decade, interest rates have been low, so borrowing was relatively cheap, but with ultralow inflation your debt load in real terms only declined at the rate you paid it off. Your payments remain much the same percent of your income, so you don’t get our from under nearly as fast.

The old advice on buying a house was to buy a house for which the payments were barely affordable, because over time your income would grow and the mortgage payments would become less and less burdensome. But the last decade, that really hasn’t been true.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:09:56pm

re: #49 HappyWarrior

I don’t always agree with Antifa but props to them. The Altright deserves to be harassed and ruined.

A few years ago, I expressed the wish that we could have a cage full of Bolsheviks that we could release to deal with the nastier elements of the right, then recall before they got out of hand. Looks like we are halfway there.

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:10:32pm

re: #51 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Jereb is going to be so happy.
He’s been craving all this attention. it’s Florida, so there’s little doubt any weapons they find will be completely legal.

I was thinking the same thing. I bet he just loves it.

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:11:12pm

Trump’s tweeting again…

It’s the same kind of word salad he’s always going on about. He’s trying to claim that congratulating Putin isn’t any big deal because Obama did it too. Except his own advisers told Trump not to and he didn’t listen.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:12:09pm

Woke up at 5 am, couldn’t get back to sleep right away so I looked in on Twitter and there he goes again. Couldn’t resist.

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:13:14pm

re: #60 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I guess that’s why they’re falling over themselves telling us what a nice family the now deceased terrorist came from.

Right-Wing Media Figures Cry Anti-White Racism After Austin Bombing Suspect’s Identity Revealed

The usual suspects are falling into line; Watson, Coulter, and a menagerie of other Nazis.

When you become a stereotype, you deserve the scorn.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:13:32pm

re: #66 lawhawk

Trump’s tweeting again…

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It’s the same kind of word salad he’s always going on about. He’s trying to claim that congratulating Putin isn’t any big deal because Obama did it too. Except his own advisers told Trump not to and he didn’t listen.

I don’t think Obama should have congratulated Putin but using Obama did it too is a pathetic excuse. He doesn’t accept responsibility for anything because he was never taught to because he’s a pampered brat.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:14:37pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:15:40pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

It looks like that to me.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:16:22pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

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They can solve Ukraine? No Dumbass, they WANT Ukraine.

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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:17:43pm

re: #72 HappyWarrior

They can solve Ukraine? No Dumbass, they WANT Ukraine.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:17:46pm

Funny how Trump only values building relationships with dictators anc right wing extremists but no democratically elected leaders like Marcon, Merkel, & Trudeau.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:17:59pm

re: #72 HappyWarrior

They can solve Ukraine? No Dumbass, they WANT Ukraine.

AND THAT WILL SOLVE IT, LIBTARD!!!

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:18:02pm

re: #72 HappyWarrior

They can solve Ukraine? No Dumbass, they WANT Ukraine.

Makes you wonder how he’d solve a problem like Maria.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:18:12pm

Trump is still appeasing Russia, and the RWNJ will think this is now just fine.

Does he not remember the joint statement he and May released just last week after Putin had critics of his poisoned in Britain?

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BeachDem  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:18:14pm

re: #59 Skip Intro

Updated: Black man shot by police was carrying cellphone, not ‘tool bar,’ when he was shot, department says

Now a white guy could have been carrying an assault rifle and gotten off a couple of shots and still have been taken alive. This poor bastard was killed for carrying a cell phone.

No where in the story do the reporters say he came from a good home.

sacbee.com

Two chilling things in that article (in addition to the whole bullshit premise that a potential b&e warrants death)

The two officers involved in the shooting then held their position for about five minutes until additional officers arrived before approaching the victim. Clark was pronounced dead at the scene.

So the fuckers just stood there and never checked to see if he was alive, could be revived—nope—just stood there after shooting him to death.

And

Police interviewed Thompson (the grandmother) for several hours about what she had heard but did not tell her about Clark, she said. She eventually decided to look out a window and saw her grandson’s body in her backyard, she said.

That is just hideous.

Oh, and, of course, the shooters are on paid administrative leave because of course they are.

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Kragar  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:18:58pm
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Sir John Barron  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:19:25pm

So just today Trumpy has tweeted that the special counsel investigating Russian collusion is illegitimate and that he won’t excoriate Russia and Putin because they can help something something.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:20:10pm

re: #79 Kragar

re: #80 Sir John Barron

So just today Trumpy has tweeted that the special counsel investigating Russian collusion is illegitimate and that he won’t excoriate Russia and Putin because they can help something something.

How is appeasing Putin PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:20:44pm

re: #76 Belafon

Makes you wonder how he’d solve a problem like Maria.

How Do You Solve a Problem like Maria with Lyrics - The Sound of Music

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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:20:52pm

re: #81 Sir John Barron

How is appeasing Putin PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH?

Putin is strong, therefore we don’t fuck with him and get peace.

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Kragar  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:21:17pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:21:48pm

re: #84 Kragar

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Of the EU and NATO.

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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:22:49pm

re: #84 Kragar

We ca try giving him Afghanistan… that worked out well for them last time…

Oh, wait, that didn’t work out well for anyone last time.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:24:53pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:24:55pm

The most pathetic thing Trump has done is convince idiots he’s operating in America’s interests.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:25:24pm

re: #78 BeachDem

Many years ago, when I was a kid, my parents gave me a pellet gun. One day I was out in the backyard shooting at targets against a hill (our backyard was a 45 degree slope).

Then I heard a cop on the hill behind me tell me to drop the weapon. My neighbors had called the cops on me because we didn’t get along. It all came to nothing because I was doing nothing wrong.

A black kid doing that today would have been gunned down, no doubt about it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:26:27pm

re: #81 Sir John Barron

How is appeasing Putin PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH?

We’ll have peace by letting Putin get stronger?

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:26:36pm
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Sir John Barron  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:28:46pm

re: #79 Kragar

And Russia hacked the DNC and tried to hack state electoral systems.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:29:28pm

Kraft durch Freude!

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TedStriker  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:29:29pm

re: #90 Blind Frog Belly White

We’ll have peace by letting Putin get stronger?

It’s an old tactic of abusers everywhere: “Let me have my way and, maybe, I won’t beat you”.

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:29:54pm

A statement by David Hogg that I think you will all agree with:

“There is a lot of racial disparity in the way that this is covered,” Mr. Hogg said of last month’s shooting. “If this happened in a place of lower socioeconomic status, or a….black community, no matter how well those people spoke, I don’t think the media would cover it the same.”

“And I think it’s important that we point that out as Americans and realise that. Because, we have to use our white privilege now to make sure that all of the voices that….all of the people that have died as a result of this and haven’t been covered the same can be heard,” he continued. “It’s sad, but true.”

h/t Daily Kos

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:30:44pm

re: #89 Skip Intro

Many years ago, when I was a kid, my parents gave me a pellet gun. One day I was out in the backyard shooting at targets against a hill (our backyard was a 45 degree slope).

Then I heard a cop on the hill behind me tell me to drop the weapon. My neighbors had called the cops on me because we didn’t get along. It all came to nothing because I was doing nothing wrong.

A black kid doing that today would have been gunned down, no doubt about it.

Makes me think of Tamir Rice or that man in the WalMart.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:31:20pm

re: #95 Belafon

A statement by David Hogg that I think you will all agree with:

h/t Daily Kos

He’s a good kid.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:32:18pm

re: #94 TedStriker

It’s an old tactic of abusers everywhere: “Let me have my way and, maybe, I won’t beat you”.

“You pay us, see, and you get protection.”

“From what?”

“You know. Things. Stuff. You know, this is a nice place you got here. It’d be a shame if something happened to it…”

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:32:33pm

From the same article:

The remarks come just days after other Parkland students visited their peers in the Chicago Public Schools system to brainstorm how to stage demonstrations for the March for Our Lives demonstration that will be held in the city this weekend. […]

Sam Zeif, one of the students who visited Chicago, called it “heartbreaking to know they’ve been feeling this pain and fear for nearly their whole lives”.

These kids aren’t just hoping things will get better. Wait until they can run for office.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:32:54pm

re: #96 HappyWarrior

Makes me think of Tamir Rice or that man in the WalMart.

“I feared for my life.”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:36:04pm

re: #99 Belafon

From the same article:

These kids aren’t just hoping things will get better. Wait until they can run for office.

I’d love to see David, Emma, or any of them. They just need some more education, experience but they have more wisdom and empathy than many current office holders.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:37:36pm

re: #57 Citizen K

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I’m still terrified of a full-on ratfucking come November with the lefter-than-thous voting out of spite to burn the Dem party down and let the GOP get their vaunted eternal majority because clearly that will be the way toward progressive utopia…

You are so right to be concerned. I am keeping my fingers crossed that Pritzker’s money will allow him to defeat Rauner’s money despite the efforts of hardcore BernieBros to sabotage everything. Yes Pritzker may not be the most honest person alive — but he is a normal Democrat (ok — normal for Chicago). BernieBros won’t be happy until the Mercers run everything because regular Democrats are all too compromised for them.

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dirkdigglerjr  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:38:01pm

re: #63 Blind Frog Belly White

The mid-90s until The Great Recession kicked in was a kind of sweet spot. You could earn a decent return in a money market while still being able to borrow at fairly reasonable rates.

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:38:15pm

re: #101 HappyWarrior

I’d love to see David, Emma, or any of them. They just need some more education, experience but they have more wisdom and empathy than many current office holders.

They can start small, Justice of the Peace is a start, and work their way up.

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:39:38pm

re: #102 Hecuba’s daughter

Especially when we have LGFer’s talking about reserving their votes for Democrats.

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:41:32pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:44:43pm
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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:45:41pm
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VegasGolfer  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:46:28pm

I actually “used” that exhibit when it was at the Guegenheim. I thought what kind of person would think so highly of themselves that they need a golden toilet. Well now he’s in the WH.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:50:27pm

re: #106 JordanRules

Natasha Bertrand

@NatashaBertrand
“The only foreign thing we tested was Putin,” Wylie said. “It turns out, there’s a lot of Americans who really like this idea of a really strong authoritarian leader and people were quite defensive in focus groups of Putin’s invasion of Crimea.” washingtonpost.com
2:19 PM - Mar 21, 2018

I was criticized on FB for taking Trump’s President-for-life “joke” seriously. It was not a joke — he meant it.

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TedStriker  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:51:53pm

re: #98 Blind Frog Belly White

“You pay us, see, and you get protection.”

“From what?”

“You know. Things. Stuff. You know, this is a nice place you got here. It’d be a shame if something happened to it…”

It’s like this part of Richard Pryor’s Live on the Sunset Strip routine:

The Mafia people are weird people, ‘cause they appeal… They appeal to your intellect. They do. Them motherfuckers’ appeal says… “You’re an intelligent person, aren’t you? And you realize that it’s very difficult… to walk without knees.”

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:52:25pm

re: #108 JordanRules

Domestic violence rears its ugly head again.

At the heart of so much gun violence is domestic violence (violence among and between people that know each other - friends/family).

In fact, it’s frequently the reason so many law enforcement officers die in the line of duty. The two most dangerous situations that cops face are motor vehicle stops and domestic violence incidents where the perpetrator has a gun.

What do they have in common? Guns - the easy access to guns.

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dangerman  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:53:27pm

re: #59 Skip Intro

Updated: Black man shot by police was carrying cellphone, not ‘tool bar,’ when he was shot, department says

Now a white guy could have been carrying an assault rifle and gotten off a couple of shots and still have been taken alive. This poor bastard was killed for carrying a cell phone.

No where in the story do the reporters say he came from a good home.

sacbee.com

i havent read past this post yet

i want to add Updated: Black man shot by police was carrying cellphone, not ‘tool bar,’ when he was shot IN HIS OWN BACKYARD, department says

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:53:54pm

Hard to see how he could possibly act more subservient.

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:56:00pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

The same right wingers who caterwaul over how Obama bowed or didn’t stand up to Putin, are excusing Trump every time he absolutely ignores Russian aggression, violence, and undermining US national security.

Trump is playing into Putin’s hands better than Putin could have ever imagined.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:56:37pm

re: #108 JordanRules

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Wow. I half-called it. I said the shooter was an MRA, which may not be the case, but it was a romantic entanglement.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:58:04pm

re: #115 lawhawk

The same right wingers who caterwaul over how Obama bowed or didn’t stand up to Putin, are excusing Trump every time he absolutely ignores Russian aggression, violence, and undermining US national security.

Trump is playing into Putin’s hands better than Putin could have ever imagined.

A post earlier today had Bob Corker saying that Republican audiences these days don’t ask about issues, don’t care about issues. They care whether you ‘stand with Trump’. This is why his core doesn’t leave him.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 21, 2018 • 12:59:59pm

re: #116 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Wow. I half-called it. I said the shooter was an MRA, which may not be the case, but it was a romantic entanglement.

So not like Parkland, but rather our normal everyday shooting. We need to work on stopping both.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:02:38pm

re: #118 Hecuba’s daughter

So not like Parkland, but rather our normal everyday shooting. We need to work on stopping both.

The other thing about this is that the officer’s actions were therefore unnecessary. The kid wasn’t going to shoot up the whole school. So now a kid is dead, a girl is in the hospital, another kid is injured, and all because we as an American culture can’t bear to let go of our guns.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:03:20pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:04:05pm

re: #106 JordanRules

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Kragar  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:04:43pm
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dangerman  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:05:31pm

re: #119 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The other thing about this is that the officer’s actions were therefore unnecessary. The kid wasn’t going to shoot up the whole school. So now a kid is dead, a girl is in the hospital, another kid is injured, and all because we as an American culture can’t bear to let go of our guns.

kinda changes that whole success narrative they were trying to push immediately afterward

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:06:16pm

re: #123 dangerman

kinda changes that whole success narrative they were trying to push immediately afterward

Precisely my point. This wasn’t a win, this was a loss on top of a loss.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:06:19pm

re: #113 dangerman

i havent read past this post yet

i want to add Updated: Black man shot by police was carrying cellphone, not ‘tool bar,’ when he was shot IN HIS OWN BACKYARD, department says

Do we even know what a “tool bar” is if you’re not talking about user interfaces on a computer?

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:06:23pm

15 Years. More Than 1 Million Dead. No One Held Responsible.

The War in Iraq’s latest anniversary passed in all-American silence.

My short visit only confirmed my conviction and fear that the invasion would spell disaster for Iraqis. Removing Saddam was just a byproduct of another objective: dismantling the Iraqi state and its institutions. That state was replaced with a dysfunctional and corrupt semi-state. We were still filming in Baghdad when L. Paul Bremer III, the head of the Coalition Provisional Authority, announced the formation of the so-called Governing Council in July 2003. The names of its members were each followed by their sect and ethnicity. Many of the Iraqis we spoke to on that day were upset with institutionalization of an ethno-sectarian quota system. Ethnic and sectarian tensions already existed, but their translation into political currency was toxic. Those unsavry characters on the governing council, most of whom were allies of the United States from the preceding decade, went on to loot the country, making it one of the most corrupt in the world.

Except for Sinan Antoon’s richly deserved jeremiad, the 15th anniversary of the worst foreign policy disaster in modern American history went sailing by largely unremarked, at least in this country. After all, over here, everyone was too busy keeping track of the latest news involving the vulgar talking yam the country had installed as president, how he was still truckling to Russian oligarchs, how he was still being run to ground by Bob Mueller, and about how he was being outwitted and out-lawyered by a lady from the adult entertainment industry.

But, overseas, particularly in that part of the world where ruined Iraq has been turned into little more than an occupied battlefield, the people living there marked the anniversary the same way they’ve marked every day since George W. Bush launched his war based on lies. They were trying to stay alive

esquire.com

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Sir John Barron  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:06:54pm

re: #122 Kragar

Trump admits his claims about African American unemployment were wrong: “Fake news got me on that one” thehill.com pic.twitter.com

— The Hill

Wait, what?

First rule of Trump is you are always right.

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Kragar  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:07:17pm
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dangerman  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:08:10pm

re: #122 Kragar

He has multiple government agencies providing him detailed reports on this and multiple other issues, which he ignores while he watches Fox News instead

well, they could be if anybody cared

he doesnt have a desk full of stuff he’s not getting to
im sure none of this stuff even gets in the room

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Weaselone  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:08:42pm

re: #121 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

They’re working hard to make sure that the government agencies and Fox News eventually say the same things.

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dangerman  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:09:21pm

re: #125 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Do we even know what a “tool bar” is if you’re not talking about user interfaces on a computer?

if it’s supposed to be the size of a phone, i got no clue

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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:09:35pm

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

Funny how suddenly “Obama did it” is a defense.

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dangerman  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:10:05pm

re: #127 Sir John Barron

Wait, what?

First rule of Trump is you are always right.

doncha see - “i wasnt wrong. i got it from the fake news. they were wrong”

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:11:52pm

re: #133 dangerman

The fake news he got it from is his primary news source. I doubt this has any meaning to him.

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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:12:26pm

re: #125 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Do we even know what a “tool bar” is if you’re not talking about user interfaces on a computer?

I would assume something like a crowbar? Which still isn’t grounds to shoot a man dead from a distance.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:13:00pm

re: #131 dangerman

if it’s supposed to be the size of a phone, i got no clue

Way too small for a wrecking bar.

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:13:08pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:13:23pm

re: #135 KGxvi

I would assume something like a crowbar? Which still isn’t grounds to shoot a man dead from a distance.

He was black. They don’t need any other reason.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:14:51pm

re: #137 JordanRules

“Please respect our privacy”? I hope you assholes get sued out of your house.

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Kragar  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:15:16pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:15:32pm

How privilege works, episode infinity:

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Charles Johnson  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:16:15pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:16:40pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

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Wait, WHAT?!?

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SteelPH  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:17:31pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

Couldn’t possibly be the reason he was given the boot.
//not enough sarc tags in the world

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:18:42pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

So does mean Sessions can get nailed for Obstruction of Justice?

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:19:28pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

Looks like Sessions didn’t know about the investigation when he fired McCabe and prevented McCabe from getting his pension just days before McCabe was scheduled to retire:

One source told ABC News that Sessions was not aware of the investigation when he decided to fire McCabe last Friday less than 48 hours before McCabe, a former FBI deputy director, was due to retire from government and obtain a full pension, but an attorney representing Sessions declined to confirm that.

Last year, several top Republican and Democratic lawmakers were informed of the probe during a closed-door briefing with Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and McCabe, ABC News was told.

By then, Sessions had recused himself from the FBI’s probe of Russia’s meddling in the 2016 presidential election, giving Rosenstein oversight of the growing effort.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:19:47pm

re: #138 Skip Intro

He was black. They don’t need any other reason.

Clearly, they “feared for their lives”. At least, that’s what they’ll say.

Right now, there’s little consequence to shooting black people you THINK MIGHT have a gun.

I think it’s really time to pass a law providing consequences for any killing of anyone by a cop - kill anyone, ‘good shoot’ or not, and you stop being a cop, anywhere, forever. Provide educational and job retraining benefits, whatever, but you can’t be a cop anymore. Period.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:20:58pm

re: #147 Blind Frog Belly White

We don’t have “Kill At Will” laws in CA so I don’t know how well that excuse will hold up.

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:22:12pm

Lordy!! I have no clue who leaves or is pushed out next. No clue.
This is such a criminal mess.

I wonder how the Tillerson and Mattis dinner date was last night.

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Kragar  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:22:56pm
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goddamnedfrank  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:23:00pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

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Flagrant conflict of interest. Will also be interesting to see how much pressure was brought to bear on the IG to grease the skids and rush the investigation through. Also starting to really doubt the veracity of the IG’s conclusions and the offices actual impartiality. The whole thing stinks.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:23:10pm

Apropos our early discussion of interest rate hikes…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:24:02pm

re: #147 Blind Frog Belly White

Clearly, they “feared for their lives”. At least, that’s what they’ll say.

Right now, there’s little consequence to shooting black people you THINK MIGHT have a gun.

I think it’s really time to pass a law providing consequences for any killing of anyone by a cop - kill anyone, ‘good shoot’ or not, and you stop being a cop, anywhere, forever. Provide educational and job retraining benefits, whatever, but you can’t be a cop anymore. Period.

That will create a lot of security guards who have killed and might kill again.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:24:05pm

re: #149 JordanRules

Lordy!! I have no clue who leaves or is pushed out next. No clue.
This is such a criminal mess.

I wonder how the Tillerson and Mattis dinner date was last night.

I hope Tillerson was over the case of the shits that Kelly found so humorous.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:24:44pm

re: #153 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That will create a lot of security guards who have killed and might kill again.

Well, there’s a simple remedy for that, isn’t there?

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:25:02pm

re: #154 Blind Frog Belly White

I hope Tillerson was over the case of the shits that Kelly found so humorous.

*spits out water*
LMAO!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:25:41pm

re: #156 JordanRules

*spits out water*
LMAO!!

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:26:31pm

re: #157 Blind Frog Belly White

Accurate.

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Sea Mexican!  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:27:55pm

re: #89 Skip Intro

Many years ago, when I was a kid, my parents gave me a pellet gun. One day I was out in the backyard shooting at targets against a hill (our backyard was a 45 degree slope).

Then I heard a cop on the hill behind me tell me to drop the weapon. My neighbors had called the cops on me because we didn’t get along. It all came to nothing because I was doing nothing wrong.

A black kid doing that today would have been gunned down, no doubt about it.

Remind me of something discussed in the “History of Black Superheroes” video by Screen Junkies, when making the case of Shaft being a superhero: Shaft ran around with a gun in his hand, and didn’t get shot once. That counts as a super power.

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dirkdigglerjr  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:29:22pm

re: #95 Belafon

Can we just waive the 25-year-old requirement and allow him to become a U.S. House Rep?

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:31:10pm

He says he didn’t know. Interesting. How does that work?

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:31:14pm

I can’t help but wonder that states need to take the Battlestar Galactica approach to dealing with the Russians/foreign entities trying to attack data networks.

Don’t network your systems or set up some independent system separate from the Internet so that you have more secure communications.

Cylon Virus Incident

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:32:15pm

re: #161 JordanRules

He says didn’t know. Interesting. How does that work?

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That reeks of USDA Grade A Prime Bullshit right there.

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:32:54pm
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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:33:08pm

re: #151 goddamnedfrank

Flagrant conflict of interest. Will also be interesting to see how much pressure was brought to bear on the IG to grease the skids and rush the investigation through. Also starting to really doubt the veracity of the IG’s conclusions and the offices actual impartiality. The whole thing stinks.

The IG’s report is going to be interesting, if it ever comes to light. Like so many other things in the Trump Administration, it’s incredibly dangerous if the IG’s office has been politicized. I also wouldn’t be shocked to learn that Trump/Sessions lied about what the IG report said, thinking it would never see the light of day.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:33:11pm

re: #155 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, there’s a simple remedy for that, isn’t there?

Really, the point isn’t to punish cops. The point is to put something meaningful on the “Don’t Shoot” side of the scale.

Right now, the “Shoot” side has lots going for it - if he has a gun, he might kill you; if he doesn’t have a gun, you can probably get off with a sternly worded letter, and keep your job; you’ll be defended by all the talk radio folks and most Republicans, who will do their damnedest to cast the victim as deserving of death.

On the “Don’t Shoot” side, mostly it’s “You’ll feel bad about it”

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Kragar  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:33:14pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:33:41pm

re: #161 JordanRules

He says didn’t know. Interesting. How does that work?

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Sessions is apparently suffering from dementia. He doesn’t know or remember anything.

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steve_davis  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:33:43pm

re: #7 Unshaken Defiance

Honest question-How good does an economy need to be to justify interest rate hikes? A “normal” economy has much higher rates. seems to me Wall street enjoys a lot a cash that would be in T bills and savings in interest were not so low.

this is a problem I’ve run into. My portion of my dad’s estate is mostly sitting in a checking account, because interest rates are so low it isn’t useful for me to try to move it into something more productive. Some of it went into a brokerage account, but I’m leery of the stock market just now. In other years, I could move it into a 1 year CD, compounding at 5 percent. Instead, my 1 year CD options are maybe 1.5%. No thanks. Not worth tying it up. Apparently i’m going to buy a house, live in it for a couple of years while I improve it, and then flip it, because there is literally no conservative means of working the money productively.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:34:06pm
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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:35:15pm

re: #161 JordanRules

He says didn’t know. Interesting. How does that work?

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He recused himself from the Russia investigation. This was related to the Russia investigation, so McCabe probably went to Rosenstein instead. Also, as a general rule, investigators don’t generally tell the person they are investigating that they are the subject of an investigation - at least not right away.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:35:35pm

re: #44 Kragar

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This graf actually is the crux of the whole thing to me - that the key to stopping alt-right nazis was to demonstrate to the angry pathetic losers who were trying to jump onto a bandwagon that would allow them to exercise their frustrations on blah people, women and that mean kid in 3rd grade who punched them in the stomach and laughed:

…the newer, less dedicated members were attracted to a movement they thought would empower them. They thought they were going to be the bullies making the people they hated cower in fear. They were going to be the conquering heroes of the White Crusade to take back America from Those People.

I imagine it must have been quite a shock to show up with a few dozen of their fellow mighty warriors and find themselves facing 40,000 people screaming at them to fuck off back to the hole they crawled out of:

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Sir John Barron  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:37:13pm

re: #164 JordanRules

Notable to me:
1) Never leaked (rightly!)
2) It was closed

— Chris Hayes

Since the case was ‘closed’ I’m hesitant to speculate.

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:37:34pm

re: #171 KGxvi

Right. That, at least right away part may be operative as more details emerge.

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Kragar  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:37:36pm

Its on.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:38:56pm

re: #175 Kragar

Its on.

Yeah but Alan Dershowitch says….

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:39:06pm

re: #175 Kragar

Its on.

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I believe there’s a significant volume of bovine fecal matter rapidly approaching an air recirculation device.

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Ace-o-aces  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:40:33pm

re: #176 Sir John Barron

Yeah but Alan Dershowitch says….

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NOBODY CARES!

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:41:18pm

MSNBC centering Bannon in discussion on latest CA developments.

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Kragar  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:42:51pm
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Jack Burton  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:43:30pm

re: #162 lawhawk

I’m a techno-geek. I am a security conscious, not a security paranoid person. I like networking and convenience.

With all of that said: I’m of the opinion that over 90% of government computers (those not currently off network or air-gapped) and to some extent private/corporate computers have ZERO reason to be connected to the Internet, even behind firewalls and security. Not everything needs to be on “the cloud” (Someone else’s computers).

On that note. The “Internet of Things” is a fucking disaster waiting to happen, especially with how bad security is on the devices already. Some serious action/legislation needs to happen.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:44:29pm

re: #178 Ace-o-aces

NOBODY CARES!

We don’t need no stinking elites with lawyer degrees and such to tell us what to think and Oh Hey Look Alan Dersh Says Mueller Investigation Is Not Legitimate END THE INVESTIGATION WITCH HUNT!!!!!

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Sir John Barron  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:45:17pm

re: #180 Kragar

Everything is fine

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:47:04pm

re: #41 JordanRules

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:48:17pm

re: #148 Skip Intro

We don’t have “Kill At Will” laws in CA so I don’t know how well that excuse will hold up.

Can’t tell you how many times I read the “…suspect made a furtive motion towards his waistband. Acting in fear for my life, and the lives of others, I discharged my service weapon… “

Right now the department investigators are wading their way through the restrictions imposed by CCP Section 3303(c) et seq., aka “The Police Officers Bill of RIghts.”

It’s a beast. Makes it so goddam hard to actually fire a cop for anything other than being a complete werewolf.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:53:33pm

re: #170 Ace-o-aces

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wrenchwench  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:56:00pm
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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:57:53pm

re: #181 Jack Burton

I wonder if my hardware reseller friends will leverage some of this percepton of the cloud to kick up their on-prem solutions sales again. The decline in infrastructure purchased by a large swath of their customers was really rapid for some of them.

IoT worries me a lot.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:58:27pm

re: #66 lawhawk

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Dr. Matt  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:58:34pm

Full Disclosure: You will need eye bleach after you read this.

Right-Wing Media Figures Cry Anti-White Racism After Austin Bombing Suspect’s Identity Revealed

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Jay C  Mar 21, 2018 • 1:58:34pm

re: #185 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

It’s a beast. Makes it so goddam hard to actually fire a cop for anything other than being a complete werewolf.

And in that case, I’m sure some police union or other would stand up and sue on his/her behalf on the grounds that lycanthropy is a recognized * medical condition, and said officer ought to be accommodated by reassignment to cage desk duties during full moons. With no loss of time assessed for pension purposes…..

*if legendary

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:05:03pm

re: #181 Jack Burton

I’m a techno-geek. I am a security conscious, not a security paranoid person. I like networking and convenience.

With all of that said: I’m of the opinion that over 90% of government computers (those not currently off network or air-gapped) and to some extent private/corporate computers have ZERO reason to be connected to the Internet, even behind firewalls and security. Not everything needs to be on “the cloud” (Someone else’s computers).

On that note. The “Internet of Things” is a fucking disaster waiting to happen, especially with how bad security is on the devices already. Some serious action/legislation needs to happen.

IoT is a disaster because of the bad security. If it’s done right, it’s a cool concept, very appealing to the nerd in me. The problem is that nobody wants to spend the money to do it right. It’s the same with operational network security; truthfully, it shouldn’t be hard to air-gap the public Internet access from the restricted resources in a government office. It makes day-to-day operations a lot more cumbersome, but I’d rather that and be secure than be conveniently situated for Russians to hack.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:05:08pm

re: #104 Belafon

They can start small, Justice of the Peace is a start, and work their way up.

they should start with their local school boards, IMHO.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:05:13pm

re: #40 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s what happens when your theory of economics is too limited. For example, Conservative economists JUST KNEW that Obama’s stimulus bill, and Quantitative Easing would cause massive inflation, because that’s what their economic theory said. They couldn’t understand why it didn’t. But I was following Krugman, whose predictions were right on the money.

When ten million people have lost their jobs, the last thing you should worry about is too much inflation. The inflation hawks have been consistently wrong for a decade, and its because there has been a large pool of prime age people sitting out the workforce. Even with unemployment at 4.1%, the participation rate among prime age adults is only just getting back to normal, which explains why there has been little inflationary pressure on wages.

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ObserverArt  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:09:42pm

re: #180 Kragar

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A bible study group called RIOT. And they learned to carry knives and how to shoot guns ‘n’ stuff. Sounds so lovey-dovey and Jesus inspired.

Yeah…a white Christian terrorist group in other words.

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:10:41pm

Thread.

Carole seems to be a beast of an investigative journo!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:11:30pm

re: #125 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Do we even know what a “tool bar” is if you’re not talking about user interfaces on a computer?

“Is this a lug wrench?”

“maybe…”

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EPR-radar  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:14:26pm

re: #181 Jack Burton

I’m a techno-geek. I am a security conscious, not a security paranoid person. I like networking and convenience.

With all of that said: I’m of the opinion that over 90% of government computers (those not currently off network or air-gapped) and to some extent private/corporate computers have ZERO reason to be connected to the Internet, even behind firewalls and security. Not everything needs to be on “the cloud” (Someone else’s computers).

On that note. The “Internet of Things” is a fucking disaster waiting to happen, especially with how bad security is on the devices already. Some serious action/legislation needs to happen.

Back in the days when I worked a job that had real security requirements, the operating assumption from security was that any computer on the internet is a security breach waiting to happen. This is the main reason I had so much difficulty believing there could be anything real in Hillary emailgate, since nothing really classified should have been in white world emails anyway.

But that was a long time ago, so I don’t know if it’s still true that there is no such thing as a secure computer with a normally functional internet connection.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:15:47pm

re: #139 Skip Intro

“Please respect our privacy”? I hope you assholes get sued out of your house.

Why would you say this?

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:16:09pm

re: #63 Blind Frog Belly White

I regard inflation as a diagnostic tool, not a problem. Like human body temperature. The question isn’t whether a person’s temperature is too low or too high. The question is, “What is causing their temperature to spike like this? Infection? Poison? Internal bleeding?” Just treating the temperature won’t resolve the problem.

Unfortunately much of our knowledge of economics is at about the “bodily humours” stage of medicine. “Bleed ‘em!” seems to be the standard treatment. Then, like George Washington, the economy gets bled to death.

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EPR-radar  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:17:41pm

re: #188 JordanRules

I wonder if my hardware reseller friends will leverage some of this percepton of the cloud to kick up their on-prem solutions sales again. The decline in infrastructure purchased by a large swath of their customers was really rapid for some of them.

IoT worries me a lot.

Internet of things intersecting with self-driving vehicles is going to lead to at least one major disaster before any steps are taken, because these things always have to be learned the hard way.

Hopefully this future disaster is some relatively normal fuckup, as opposed to AlQaida v 2.0 finding the next equivalent to flying hijacked planes into skyscrapers.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:17:59pm

re: #198 EPR-radar

Back in the days when I worked a job that had real security requirements, the operating assumption from security was that any computer on the internet is a security breach waiting to happen. This is the main reason I had so much difficulty believing there could be anything real in Hillary emailgate, since nothing really classified should have been in white world emails anyway.

But that was a long time ago, so I don’t know if it’s still true that there is no such thing as a secure computer with a normally functional internet connection.

If anything, it’s even more true nowadays. It’s not just computers, it’s also all the things they connect to. Networks have gotten smarter, which introduces another layer of security risk. Realistically, if you want a secure device - phone, tablet, computer, light bulb - you don’t connect it to the Internet.

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ObserverArt  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:18:28pm

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Is this a lug wrench?”

“maybe…”

That commercial makes me sad. The fact that it depicts two young men with no clue as to what a lug wrench is is probably true but just so sad. I guess no one learns about tools and things like that because no one does any work on their car, or home, or whatever. Just call the AAA to come fix your car or call someone from Home Advisor to fix the leak under the kitchen sink.

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:20:13pm

re: #201 EPR-radar

I edited a friends white paper on IoT vulnerabilities and was quite alarmed at the implications. And as Quoth the raven, Covfefe said, the money issue is super obvious.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:20:38pm

re: #86 KGxvi

We ca try giving him Afghanistan… that worked out well for them last time…

Oh, wait, that didn’t work out well for anyone last time.

If really accomplished imperialists like the Brits couldn’t conquer Afghanistan what chance do second raters like Russia and the US stand?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:20:55pm

re: #180 Kragar

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“RIOT?” Holy shit. Answers the usual question about young terrorists though: Where was he radicalized?

In this case, looks like Jesus camp.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:22:10pm

re: #94 TedStriker

It’s an old tactic of abusers everywhere: “Let me have my way and, maybe, I won’t beat you”.

And it is always, always, a lie.

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EPR-radar  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:22:17pm

re: #205 Romantic Heretic

If really accomplished imperialists like the Brits couldn’t conquer Afghanistan what chance do second raters like Russia and the US stand?

Add the Romans to the list of imperialists that have had unusual trouble in that part of the world.

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petesh  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:23:01pm

re: #205 Romantic Heretic

If really accomplished imperialists like the Brits couldn’t conquer Afghanistan what chance do second raters like Russia and the US stand?

As a former Brit, thanks for the compliment but Alexander the Great couldn’t either.

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:25:04pm
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:25:36pm

re: #209 petesh

As a former Brit, thanks for the compliment but Alexander the Great couldn’t either.

The Mongols really screwed things up there, though, by destroying their irrigation system.

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:27:00pm

Starts tomorrow.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:27:30pm

re: #181 Jack Burton

Action will not happen until after the accidents do.

See also: The Uber self driving car that just killed someone.

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wrenchwench  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:32:24pm

From December, 2016. Way ahead of the curve. (The article, not the tweet.)

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:37:04pm

re: #210 JordanRules

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JFC.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:41:47pm

re: #209 petesh

As a former Brit, thanks for the compliment but Alexander the Great couldn’t either.

I’ve heard differing stories about that so I didn’t include him.

I often wonder how history would have been different if Alexander had tried being a father in addition to a general.

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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:46:36pm

re: #216 Romantic Heretic

I’ve heard differing stories about that so I didn’t include him.

I often wonder how history would have been different if Alexander had tried being a father in addition to a general.

Imagine the pressure the son of Alexander would have faced…

“When I was your age, I conquered the world… what have you ever done?”

And if not external (palace intrigue that he would never be as great as his father), then internal - the daddy issues would make Freud blush.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:47:38pm

re: #199 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Why would you say this?

Because their son made bombs that killed other people so fuck their privacy. Maybe if they spent less time talking to their god of vengeance and more with their son they would have seen the changes taking place in him.

If your kid comes after me or mine trying to kill or mame I’ll make every attempt to sue your ass into bankruptcy. I’m sicker than shit of these bullshit excuses that lets irresponsible people get off the hook.

Is that clearer?

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:49:39pm

re: #212 JordanRules

Starts tomorrow.

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Liquidation sales are usually held by liquidators, not Toys R Us employees. Most likely they’ve already been fired.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:49:49pm

re: #218 Skip Intro

AND the fact that they sent him to that Jesuscamp to learn how to be a survivalist with weapons training and nasty chemical mixing experiments.

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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:50:41pm

re: #218 Skip Intro

Because their son made bombs that killed other people so fuck their privacy. Maybe if they spent less time talking to their god of vengeance and more with their son they would have seen the changes taking place in him.

If your kid comes after me or mine trying to kill or mame I’ll make every attempt to sue your ass into bankruptcy. I’m sicker than shit of these bullshit excuses that lets irresponsible people get off the hook.

Is that clearer?

He was 23, what exactly are you going to sue his parents for?

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:51:47pm

re: #217 KGxvi

If I were Alexander I’d tell my son, “I did the easy part. I conquered the world. You have the hard part; ruling it. But I’m sure you’ll be up to it.”

Then I’d start preparing him to rule.

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retired cynic  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:51:52pm

re: #169 steve_davis

I hear you. I just sold a piece of property, which I am supposed to live off of for the rest of my life. So what do I do with it? Besides Not Bitcoin? Or pork bellies?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:52:03pm

re: #175 Kragar

Someone said it the other day. Trump has so much bullshit for Mueller to get through that there’s no way he (Trump) won’t stand for re-election in 2020.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:52:06pm

re: #221 KGxvi

He was 23, what exactly are you going to sue his parents for?

I’m not going to sue them for anything. I wasn’t a victim.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:53:17pm

re: #199 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Why would you say this?

A family who raises a murderer shouldn’t expect any privacy during an ongoing investigation, especially in a situation like this where other people may have been involved in the attacks. I assume that every part of his life will be investigated

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:54:22pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:54:36pm

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darthstar  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:55:11pm
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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:55:45pm

re: #222 Romantic Heretic

If I were Alexander I’d tell my son, “I did the easy part. I conquered the world. You have the hard part; ruling it. But I’m sure you’ll be up to it.”

Then I’d start preparing him to rule.

Unfortunately, he didn’t have time… and Aristotle didn’t have a successor.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:56:17pm

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electrotek  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:57:25pm

re: #139 Skip Intro

“Please respect our privacy”? I hope you assholes get sued out of your house.

No one demanded for the privacy of the parents that raised the Manchester suicide bomber, so why the fuck should they be any different?

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ObserverArt  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:57:37pm

re: #221 KGxvi

He was 23, what exactly are you going to sue his parents for?

I have no dog in this fight, but can the family be sued for wrongful death?

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William Lewis  Mar 21, 2018 • 2:57:40pm

A bit more than 73 years ago, a young man lost his life over Czecheslovokia. His name was Lt Albert Young with the 332FG 100FS, a Tuskegee Airman class 44-C-SE. On January 21, 2018, 73 years after his death, he was memorialize in the Czech Republic for his sacrifice for their freedom.

leteckabitvakarpaty.cz

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:00:38pm

re: #232 electrotek

No one demanded for the privacy of the parents that raised the Manchester suicide bomber, so why the fuck should they be any different?

Anybody can be sued for anything. Would the plaintiff be successful? Who knows, but If I was victimized by their son I’d sure give it a shot.

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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:03:27pm

re: #233 ObserverArt

I have no dog in this fight, but can the family be sued for wrongful death?

I doubt it, he was an adult and not living with them, and it appears not using their property (even that would still make it a stretch). Which was kind of my point about not being able to sue them into bankruptcy.

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danarchy  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:03:31pm

re: #233 ObserverArt

I have no dog in this fight, but can the family be sued for wrongful death?

By the time I was 23 I hadn’t lived with my parents for 5 years and saw them maybe a half dozen times a year. The custodian in my office saw me more than they did. At some point an adult has to be responsible for their own actions. There are hundreds of thousands of people in prison for murder in this country are all of their parents liable?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:04:00pm
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Kragar  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:05:15pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:06:07pm

re: #237 danarchy

By the time I was 23 I hadn’t lived with my parents for 5 years and saw them maybe a half dozen times a year. The custodian in my office saw me more than they did. At some point an adult has to be responsible for their own actions. There are hundreds of thousands of people in prison for murder in this country are all of their parents liable?

I was only asking if a case could be made. I wasn’t saying it should be done. Just trying to get a feel for the law and if what Skip said had any merit.

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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:06:19pm

re: #238 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The team is reportedly also phasing out use of that logo. Which is nice.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:06:29pm

re: #236 KGxvi

I doubt it, he was an adult and not living with them, and it appears not using their property (even that would still make it a stretch). Which was kind of my point about not being able to sue them into bankruptcy.

You are probably right, but still it sounds like they raised him to be a walking timebomb and it pisses off that they have no responsibility for that.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:06:47pm

re: #218 Skip Intro

Because their son made bombs that killed other people so fuck their privacy. Maybe if they spent less time talking to their god of vengeance and more with their son they would have seen the changes taking place in him.

If your kid comes after me or mine trying to kill or mame I’ll make every attempt to sue your ass into bankruptcy. I’m sicker than shit of these bullshit excuses that lets irresponsible people get off the hook.

Is that clearer?

Wow! Fuck you. He was 23. How much do you expect parents to know what their adult children are doing? Seriously. WTF is wrong with you?

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darthstar  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:07:19pm
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wrenchwench  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:08:37pm
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electrotek  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:08:55pm

re: #235 Skip Intro

Anybody can be sued for anything. Would the plaintiff be successful? Who knows, but If I was victimized by their son I’d sure give it a shot.

I remember the parents of Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris were sued for an ungodly sum in 1999 by one of the victims’ parents. I’m not sure what made of it then.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:11:04pm

re: #226 Hecuba’s daughter

A family who raises a murderer shouldn’t expect any privacy during an ongoing investigation, especially in a situation like this where other people may have been involved in the attacks. I assume that every part of his life will be investigated

I happened to look up his sister on FB right after his name was released. I was horrified by the comments she was receiving. At that moment, she was probably being interviewed by the FBI so had no way of knowing that her FB was blowing up. The comments were vile. She seemed like a perfectly nice young woman who has to face all this hatred because of what her brother did.

So, yeah, I’m thoroughly dismayed and disgusted by the hatred being thrown at his family right now, particularly since we don’t know a fucking thing about their lives, except it looked to me like his sister was a competitive gymnast. Oh noes!!!!

Fuck it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:12:25pm

re: #246 electrotek

I remember the parents of Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris were sued for an ungodly sum in 1999 by one of the victims’ parents. I’m not sure what made of it then.

That situation was different — both murderers were teenagers living at home. They were not adults living with others.

Of course, I imagine the police are investigating Mark’s roommates very carefully. Every one of his associates needs to be taken in for interrogation.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:12:36pm

re: #243 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Yeah, fuck me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:15:06pm
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:15:09pm

re: #249 Skip Intro

Yeah, fuck me.

Glad you agree.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:16:56pm

re: #247 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I remember that nice younger sister of Dylan Roof who showed up at school a week or so ago.

The 18-year-old sister of convicted Charleston church shooter Dylann Roof was arrested Wednesday at her high school following a social media post that “caused alarm” to other students, authorities said.

A school resource officer at A.C. Flora High School in Columbia, South Carolina, allegedly discovered marijuana, pepper spray and a knife in Morgan Roof’s possession.

Morgan Roof was charged with simple possession of marijuana and two counts of carrying weapons on school grounds.

She had reportedly earlier posted a message on Snapchat referring to Wednesday’s national school walkout against gun violence that also honored the 17 people fatally shot last month at a Parkland, Florida, high school.

The purported post read that “your [sic] walking out for the allowed time of 17min, they are letting you do this, nothing is gonna change what tf you think it’s gonna do? I hope it’s a trap and y’all get shot we know it’s fixing to be nothing but black people walkin out anyway,” NBC affiliate WIS reported.

nbcnews.com

Seems the Roof parents have a habit of raising sociopaths.

But yeah, fuck me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:17:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:18:03pm
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dangerman  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:19:05pm

re: #180 Kragar

…”normal kid…” “regular boy …” member of “conservative survivalist group” where the kids discuss dangerous chemicals, carried knives and shot guns … buzzfeed.com

“Youth who was kept from socializing by his family was sent to camp where he received religious indoctrination and weapons training with other isolated youths.”

if only there were signs / somebody did something / saw something

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:19:15pm

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:19:55pm

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Why? What’s their rationale? What possible reason could they have for not spending money on vital 21st-century infrastructure?

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:21:02pm

re: #252 Skip Intro

I remember that nice younger sister of Dylan Roof who showed up at school a week or so ago.

nbcnews.com

Seems the Roof parents have a habit of raising sociopaths.

But yeah, fuck me.

Yep, fuck you.

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wrenchwench  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:22:59pm

I mistook it for an opossum taco. Guess I’m hungry.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:23:18pm

re: #257 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Why? What’s their rationale? What possible reason could they have for not spending money on vital 21st-century infrastructure?

Some Republican lawmakers are skeptical. AT&T, one of the largest internet service providers in the state, says it already has 980,000 strand miles of fiber in Kentucky and has no plans to partner with Kentucky Wired. But Brown said the network, despite its delays, has “early interest from a diverse group of potential customers.”

Republican Sen. Chris McDaniel, chairman of the Senate budget committee, said it’s not likely the state would have to pay anything if it ends the project, calling the people that bought and sold the bonds “sophisticated shysters.”

“The fact is, from the day the ink was dry on the first contract, this project has been nothing but a series of delays and cost overruns,” McDaniel said. “Throwing good money after bad on this boondoggle is not something I’m going to participate in.”

Announced in 2015 as a partnership between then-Democratic Gov. Steve Beshear and Republican U.S. Rep. Hal Rogers, Kentucky Wired was heralded as a first-of-its kind public-private partnership that would be the catalyst for the revitalization of an Appalachian economy devastated by the decline of the coal industry. The state would partner with the private sector to build the infrastructure required for high-speed internet service and then lease the network to companies that would sell broadband access to homes and businesses.

Rogers and others considered the investment similar to the federal government building a system of interstate highways, saying it would attract new businesses and turn the Appalachian portions of Kentucky into “silicon holler.”

The project was supposed to have been finished by fall 2016. But today, the network has 708 miles of cable in place out of the 3,000 miles needed to reach all 120 counties. The delays have already forced taxpayers to reimburse contractors for $8 million in unexpected costs. Facing up to another $30 million worth of delays, the Kentucky Communications Network Authority has asked the state legislature for authority to borrow up to $110 million. So far, lawmakers have refused to consider that request.

Those costs have prompted McDaniel to declare the project the “21st century version of the Big Dig,” a reference to a notorious road project in Boston that took more than a decade to complete and cost twice as much as planned.

The Kentucky GOP failed to achieve instant gratification so they want to take their ball and go home…

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darthstar  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:23:32pm
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:24:07pm

re: #252 Skip Intro

I remember that nice younger sister of Dylan Roof who showed up at school a week or so ago.

nbcnews.com

Seems the Roof parents have a habit of raising sociopaths.

But yeah, fuck me.

You’d have a point if you were talking about the mother of the Sandy Hook killer. In this instance, you don’t know anything, but you have no problem with harassing a family because of what their grown son did.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:24:36pm

re: #259 wrenchwench

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I mistook it for an opossum taco. Guess I’m hungry.

that is THE MOST ADORABLE POSSUM EVER!!!!

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dangerman  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:24:38pm

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Is this a lug wrench?”

“maybe…”

it’s also a camera, and works like a computer

(it is neither a dessert topping nor a floor wax)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:25:22pm

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Kentucky GOP failed to achieve instant gratification so they want to take their ball and go home…

So it went over time and over budget. Isn’t that literally every government contract ever? What the fuck is different about this one that they have to kill it? Oh, right - keeping the voting public underinformed and underprivileged is how they stay in perpetual power.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:25:36pm

Just thinking about how lucky I am to have the children I do. My daughters have been a joy to me every day of their lives, and sometimes before, as when I felt each of them kick for the first time. In those days, 1977 and 1982, we did not usually know the baby’s gender before it was born. I remember thinking when I felt the kicks, “Hello, small person. Boy or girl? Whoever you are and whoever you will be, I love you now and I will love you forever.”
I am closer to the younger one, possibly inevitable given that her mother was my beloved second wife and we raised her, while the older one’s mother was, and still is, the treacherous “Jezebel” whom I have discussed here so often. The situation has been difficult for the older daughter but she has handled it very well. She is also the mother of all 4 of my grandchildren, and they are turning out well, though I do worry about them being “the preacher’s kids.” (My son-in-law is a Baptist minister, though not of the crazed southern fundy faction),

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darthstar  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:26:01pm

There’s a legal term for this…obstruc-something…

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ObserverArt  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:26:56pm

re: #247 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I happened to look up his sister on FB right after the his name was released. I was horrified by the comments she was receiving. At that moment, she was probably being interviewed by the FBI so had no way of knowing that her FB was blowing up. The comments were vile. She seemed like a perfectly nice young woman who has to face all this hatred because of what her brother did.

So, yeah, I’m thoroughly dismayed and disgusted by the hatred being thrown at his family right now, particularly since we don’t know a fucking thing about their lives, except it looked to me like his sister was a competitive gymnast. Oh noes!!!!

Fuck it.

I don’t know exactly how to word it, but is not Skip’s comments just borne out of frustration that so much of this kind of shit happens anymore?

I never had to worry about going to school and getting shot maybe to death. I didn’t have to fear being in public like at a concert or a theater. Never thought about not tearing into a package that I received thinking it was a bomb.

Now…who the hell knows what is going to happen. This is so far out of normal, yet it has been normalized. Why can’t everyone have the security that many of us had for so long.

Where do the people who lose people go for the comfort knowing it isn’t going to keep happening? Where do people go to even get compensation for the costs of burying a loved one way too young? Who fills the holes left? This isn’t like a death from health or a bad accident of some kind. This is all so unnecessary.

We are all frustrated with a problem that has known fixes that work in other countries, yet here we allow it to go on and our fixes are things that will make the whole thing even more crazy. Yeah Frustration.

And in frustration people can say things. It’s no excuse, it is what it is. I imagine what Skip said is being said out of frustration in many places today.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:27:27pm

re: #265 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

So it went over time and over budget. Isn’t that literally every government contract ever? What the fuck is different about this one that they have to kill it? Oh, right - keeping the voting public underinformed and underprivileged is how they stay in perpetual power.

and the project timeframe for completion was totally unrealistic, but that’s what happens when people in charge live in relative flatland compared to the geography we have here in eastern Kentucky.

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wrenchwench  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:27:32pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:28:10pm

re: #257 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Why? What’s their rationale? What possible reason could they have for not spending money on vital 21st-century infrastructure?

Because it would help people who were poor and/or minorities?

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:29:06pm

re: #262 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Can you read? I’m not hassling anyone. I’m not posting shit to the family members.

I’m saying if I was a victim of their son I’d sue. Maybe I’d lose, but I’d still do it.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:30:22pm

re: #268 ObserverArt

It may be out of frustration. I don’t know. All I know is I asked for clarification and I got snippiness back which flipped my switch. I’m so sick of people being hateful and vengeful.

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dangerman  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:30:26pm

re: #199 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Why would you say this?

he did not grow up in a vacuum

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:31:30pm

re: #270 wrenchwench

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Depends. Who’s older, Mr. Hooper or Slater and Waldorf? Maybe they grew up together.

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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:32:08pm

re: #257 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Why? What’s their rationale? What possible reason could they have for not spending money on vital 21st-century infrastructure?

Family Guy - Printed Type

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:32:09pm

re: #272 Skip Intro

Can you read? I’m not hassling anyone. I’m not posting shit to the family members.

I’m saying if I was a victim of their son I’d sue. Maybe I’d lose, but I’d still do it.

I can read perfectly well and my comprehension is spot on. Signing out for now before I get booted for going off on you some more.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:33:00pm

re: #273 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

How many schools have to be shot up by “good kids” before I’m allowed to get mad? How many innocent people have to murdered and maimed by “good kids” before I’m allowed to get mad?

How many school shootings a week do we have now? What’s the number we need to reach before I’m allowed to get mad about it?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:35:26pm

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh

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That’s some great Fiscal Responsibility they got there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:38:07pm

I’m confused as to why parents who send their isolated homeschooled children to a Christian survivalist summer camp should be afforded “privacy”, and benefit of the doubt be provided to them, when they are shocked and dismayed when one of those children grows up and starts bombing people and the general public starts demanding answers.

It’s a puzzlement for sure.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:38:59pm

re: #279 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s some great Fiscal Responsibility they got there.

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probably mad that they didn’t get a piece of those cost overruns…

*whistles innocently*

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ObserverArt  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:39:57pm

Heh, Ari Melber is interviewing Roger Stone buddy Randy Credico and is pulling up videos of him and Roger Stone saying things. As he was bringing up a video you could hear Credico say “wow, you are prepared.”

Yeah, Ari is good.

And now Credico is going off all nutty. Seems he is trying to not be in this interview now.

Roger Stone people are all fucking nuts.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:40:05pm

I’m not the puppet you’re the puppet

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:40:19pm

re: #219 Skip Intro

Liquidation sales are usually held by liquidators, not Toys R Us employees. Most likely they’ve already been fired.

Some have been, others are expected to stay and wind down operations per the CNN article I read last week. And the young lady in the tweet said she had to do that for Borders.

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darthstar  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:40:47pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:41:02pm

heh

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dangerman  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:41:18pm

re: #266 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Just thinking about how lucky I am to have the children I do. My daughters have been a joy to me every day of their lives, and sometimes before, as when I felt each of them kick for the first time. In those days, 1977 and 1982, we did not usually know the baby’s gender before it was born. I remember thinking when I felt the kicks, “Hello, small person. Boy or girl? Whoever you are and whoever you will be, I love you now and I will love you forever.”
I am closer to the younger one, possibly inevitable given that her mother was my beloved second wife and we raised her, while the older one’s mother was, and still is, the treacherous “Jezebel” whom I have discussed here so often. The situation has been difficult for the older daughter but she has handled it very well. She is also the mother of all 4 of my grandchildren, and they are turning out well, though I do worry about them being “the preacher’s kids.” (My son-in-law is a Baptist minister, though not of the crazed southern fundy faction),

in my neighborhood, my former future ex-wife is known as the “dragon lady”

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:42:21pm

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m confused as to why parents who send their isolated homeschooled children to a Christian survivalist summer camp, should be afforded “privacy”, and benefit of the doubt be provided to them, when they are shocked and dismayed when one of those children grows up and starts bombing people and the general public starts demanding answers.

It’s a puzzlement for sure.

Seems like the boilerplate statement people in this situation make. Now whether they deserve it or not is another debate. They won’t get it regardless.

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calochortus  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:43:59pm

re: #274 dangerman

he did do not grow up in a vacuum

I don’t think it is as simple as some are making out. This “RIOT” group really doesn’t sound all that sinister. It sounds like teenagers blowing off steam and showing off.

It sounds to me like this guy was rather sheltered from the real world and contrary to his expectations, didn’t do well when he was out on his own. I don’t think his parents raised him to be a killer. No one knows how their kids will turn out.
Using this comparison to point out how stupid the “Muslims are all terrorists” meme is works for me, but blaming parents and everyone else around him for something he did in his twenties does not.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:44:05pm

re: #286 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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Says the dude who constantly references the Simpsons in vain attempts to try to be hip.

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dangerman  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:44:25pm

re: #262 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

You’d have a point if you were talking about the mother of the Sandy Hook killer. In this instance, you don’t know anything, but you have no problem with harassing a family because of what their grown son did.

for a little perspective, he was 23 or so
his parents, presumably, had influence over a far greater portion of his life as compared to his independent adulthood

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:45:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:46:09pm

re: #292 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ha!

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Kragar  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:47:15pm

re: #286 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cory Chase works mostly out of Florida.

Or so I’ve been told.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:47:29pm

Trump Having Second Thoughts About Spending Deal

This is hilarious, in an insane way.

Trump is planning on shutting down the government because the new spending bill only has $600 million for his sacred wall. The GOP is afraid they’ll lose even more seats if they don’t start doing something about his stupid wall but they don’t want to spend money on it.

What nobody talks about anymore is that Trump promised that the entire cost for the wall would be paid by Mexico, so there should be no need for any funds to be allocated to it.

Of course Trump was lying, the GOP went along with it so now they have a crazed president ready to put 100% of blame on himself and the GOP for shutting down the government over a lie he told to get elected. I hope they pay a huge price for this in November.

huffingtonpost.com

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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:48:37pm

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m confused as to why parents who send their isolated homeschooled children to a Christian survivalist summer camp should be afforded “privacy”, and benefit of the doubt be provided to them, when they are shocked and dismayed when one of those children grows up and starts bombing people and the general public starts demanding answers.

It’s a puzzlement for sure.

Because, despite the acts of murder and terrorism that he committed, they still lost a son that they loved. They are grieving too, as human beings they are entitled to that, and if we are going to be decent, then we should allow them to do that in private. Law enforcement will continue their investigation, as will the media, piling on via social media helps no one.

We as a society, and white people in particular, need to have an honest discussion about the fundamentalism we have allowed to flourish. But attacking the family isn’t going to be constructive to those ends, it will make people like that more recalcitrant and only serve to strengthen their belief that they are right.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:48:38pm

re: #284 JordanRules

The Borders here was all liquidation people, not Borders employees.

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calochortus  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:48:59pm

On an unrelated topic, and one that might have been discussed here already, has anyone gotten Bernie’s (or any Bernie Bro’s) hot take on the recent study on race and social mobility?

Spoiler: Black boys in wealthy families are far less likely to be wealthy adults than White boys raised in wealthy families.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:50:40pm
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Citizen K  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:52:53pm
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dangerman  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:53:42pm

re: #296 Skip Intro

Trump Having Second Thoughts About Spending Deal

This is hilarious, in an insane way.

What nobody talks about anymore is that Trump promised that the entire cost for the wall would be paid by Mexico, so there should be no need for any funds to be allocated to it.

huffingtonpost.com

this part here

and here’s what the dems should say:

you said you’d get mexico to pay for the wall. you said it hundreds of times
we wont vote one dollar for any wall (even if you call it ‘border security’)
talk to mexico

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:54:01pm

re: #301 Citizen K

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And people deny White privilege.

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ObserverArt  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:54:22pm

re: #289 calochortus

I don’t think it is as simple as some are making out. This “RIOT” group really doesn’t sound all that sinister. It sounds like teenagers blowing off steam and showing off.

It sounds to me like this guy was rather sheltered from the real world and contrary to his expectations, didn’t do well when he was out on his own. I don’t think his parents raised him to be a killer. No one knows how their kids will turn out.
Using this comparison to point out how stupid the “Muslims are all terrorists” meme is works for me, but blaming parents and everyone else around him for something he did in his twenties does not.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:54:28pm

re: #286 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:55:04pm

re: #298 Skip Intro

The Borders here was all liquidation people, not Borders employees.

Then I’ll assume the young lady didn’t work at yours, was lying, confused or asking for folks to be nice to whoever was working.

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electrotek  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:55:18pm

re: #301 Citizen K

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Does anyone recall the Manchester suicide bomber to be portrayed in such a manner?

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:56:14pm

re: #301 Citizen K

The entire media is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:56:18pm
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Ace-o-aces  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:57:03pm
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wrenchwench  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:57:27pm

re: #303 HappyWarrior

And people deny White privilege.

The same people who get upset at the use of the word ‘privileged’ (if it’s used on them) had no problem using the word ‘underprivileged’ for decades (used on ‘those other people’).

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:58:36pm

re: #296 Skip Intro

Trump Having Second Thoughts About Spending Deal

This is hilarious, in an insane way.

Trump is planning on shutting down the government because the new spending bill only has $600 million for his sacred wall. The GOP is afraid they’ll lose even more seats if they don’t start doing something about his stupid wall but they don’t want to spend money on it.

What nobody talks about anymore is that Trump promised that the entire cost for the wall would be paid by Mexico, so there should be no need for any funds to be allocated to it.

Of course Trump was lying, the GOP went along with it so now they have a crazed president ready to put 100% of blame on himself and the GOP for shutting down the government over a lie he told to get elected. I hope they pay a huge price for this in November.

huffingtonpost.com

We can’t let America forget this….want funding for the wall? Here’s the number for Mexico…

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:58:50pm

re: #306 JordanRules

I’d assume that things are handled differently at different locations, or later in the liquidation process.

When CompUsa shut down here it was the same.

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:59:17pm

re: #289 calochortus

I think the name of the group adds a sinister element. I’m not sure if that matches how sinister the group was or wasn’t, but I think folks are reacting to that.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 3:59:30pm

re: #305 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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He’s such a whiny little shit.

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calochortus  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:00:57pm

re: #304 ObserverArt

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:01:49pm

re: #222 Romantic Heretic

If I were Alexander I’d tell my son, “I did the easy part. I conquered the world. You have the hard part; ruling it. But I’m sure you’ll be up to it.”

Then I’d start preparing him to rule.

Except the real Alexander died too young to do so.

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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:02:17pm

re: #305 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

In fairness, I do support more robust immigration (and so should Cruz, being the son of an immigrant/refugee and all) and wouldn’t mind seeing many of the guns currently available and in circulation disappear.

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electrotek  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:02:56pm

lol:

We’ll just have to agree to disagree. I can be a Christian and also shoot clays for fun. I can use a knife for innumerable purposes.. the insinuation is too far of a reach

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dangerman  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:03:01pm

from the daily beast via political-wire.com

GOP Lawmaker Blames ‘Deep State’ for Carson’s Spending

after the emails came out and carson himself threw his wife under the bus, this is some special kind of mental gymnastics from Rep. Claudia Tenney (R-NY) :

“Somebody in the Deep State, it was not one of his people apparently, ordered a table, like a conference room table or whatever it was for a room. And that’s what the cost was. Ben Carson tried to—he said ‘you know how hard it is to turn it back because of the way that the procurement happens?’”

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:03:33pm

re: #318 KGxvi

In fairness, I do support more robust immigration (and so should Cruz, being the son of an immigrant/refugee and all) and wouldn’t mind seeing many of the guns currently available and in circulation disappear.

I can’t stand how he as the son of a group that benefited from liberal immigration policy sounds like Lou Dobbs on immigration.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:04:24pm

re: #233 ObserverArt

I have no dog in this fight, but can the family be sued for wrongful death?

Not unless you have evidence that they participated in the bombing spree. Just raising a kid to be a rightwing loon isn’t actionable.

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ObserverArt  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:04:32pm

re: #314 JordanRules

I think the name of the group adds a sinister element. I’m not sure if that matches how sinister the group was or wasn’t, but I think folks are reacting to that.

From little seeds big trees can grow.

I know I never went to a camp where we carried knives and learned to shoot and it just happened to be named so the acronym is RIOT.

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calochortus  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:04:32pm

re: #314 JordanRules

I think the name of the group adds a sinister element. I’m not sure if that matches how sinister the group was or wasn’t, but I think folks are reacting to that.

Probably. I just think we should step back until we know more, in the same way we’d like to see done with others.

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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:05:21pm

re: #321 HappyWarrior

I can’t stand how he as the son of a group that benefited from liberal immigration policy sounds like Lou Dobbs on immigration.

I’ve had this argument with my sister a few times, when I point out that one half of the family literally came here in the last 60 years. She always says something like “well, we came legally” and I point out that, as Cubans, we get treated different than every other country in the world. Then it’s usually something along the lines of “whatever!”

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:05:55pm

re: #235 Skip Intro

Anybody can be sued for anything. Would the plaintiff be successful? Who knows, but If I was victimized by their son I’d sure give it a shot.

I know, the plaintiff wouldn’t. And an attorney who brought that suit should be sanctioned under Rule 11, unless the parents were part of the criminal conspiracy.

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calochortus  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:06:34pm

re: #325 KGxvi

I’ve had this argument with my sister a few times, when I point out that one half of the family literally came here in the last 60 years. She always says something like “well, we came legally” and I point out that, as Cubans, we get treated different than every other country in the world. Then it’s usually something along the lines of “whatever!”

Sounds like my daughter’s in-laws. Sigh.

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Kragar  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:07:04pm
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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:16:37pm

re: #324 calochortus

Probably. I just think we should step back until we know more, in the same way we’d like to see done with others.

Agreed. When I read all the available info we had about the group it seemed relatively benign (and very white), lots of buzz words but not a lot actually there. But I think it should be looked into because there certainly could be more. That name is a lot.

My other observation…phrases like “blowing off steam” perk up my ears because even if that is entirely the case, it’s not the type of benefit afforded kids of color. This would look super sinister if it was brown or black teens (they’d also likely get promoted to instant 15 and 16 year old adults). And as you said wrt to comparing certain types of “terrorists” I think it’s fair to point this out even as we try to react to and asses this appropriately.

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wrenchwench  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:17:50pm

Off to meeting 2 in my 3 meeting week. Bike mechanics don’t do meetings. At least this one is being held in a restaurant. There will be things to put in my mouth to prevent me from saying things like, ‘Stupid meeting.’

And I like the woman who called this one. She’s good.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:22:04pm

re: #325 KGxvi

I’ve had this argument with my sister a few times, when I point out that one half of the family literally came here in the last 60 years. She always says something like “well, we came legally” and I point out that, as Cubans, we get treated different than every other country in the world. Then it’s usually something along the lines of “whatever!”

Exactly. And honestly I have no problem with said policy but Cruz is a hypocritical fraud.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:22:14pm
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calochortus  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:22:38pm

I just got this runner off the loom and hemmed. Of course, it won’t be seasonally appropriate for another 9 months or so, but it was fun to do.

Cotton Damask table runner

Now to get the silk warp for a couple scarves onto the loom. An empty loom is a sad sight.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:22:59pm

re: #328 Kragar

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I can’t blame FB for that.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:23:08pm

re: #332 Dave In Austin

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Lol.

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:24:32pm

re: #332 Dave In Austin

He just liberated the flag from Kaepernick.
Such an athlete!!!
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KGxvi  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:26:46pm

re: #332 Dave In Austin

I have so many questions…

Why is he on a football field? That was another one of his failed business ventures.

Why does he look like he’s about to cry? I thought manly alphas like him don’t cry.

Why is the flag in tatters?

Why is he holding it in appropriately?

What’s with the rag/handkerchief in his hand?

And what is that look on his face supposed to mean?

I get that art is supposed to make you ask questions, but shouldn’t the question be something beyond: what in the utter fuck?

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makeitstop  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:26:53pm

re: #336 JordanRules

He just liberated the flag from Kaepernick.
Such an athlete!!!
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The facial expression - he looks confused and disoriented, so the guy got that right, at least.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:27:06pm

re: #332 Dave In Austin

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LOL, Mike Gravel nailed it all those years ago!

power to the people vs give peace a chance

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teleskiguy  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:30:23pm

Mental health break.

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makeitstop  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:31:42pm

NBC News hired Natasha Bertrand as a contributor. Good move. She is an excellent reporter, and pretty funny at times.

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calochortus  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:32:24pm

re: #337 KGxvi

I have so many questions…

Why is he on a football field? That was another one of his failed business ventures.

Why does he look like he’s about to cry? I thought manly alphas like him don’t cry.

Why is the flag in tatters?

Why is he holding it in appropriately?

What’s with the rag/handkerchief in his hand?

And what is that look on his face supposed to mean?

I get that art is supposed to make you ask questions, but shouldn’t the question be something beyond: what in the utter fuck?

I can help you with this. The flag was supposedly trampled and tattered by ebil black football players kneeling respectfully during the anthem. Trump haz a sad and goes out to embrace the flag, dabbing at it ineffectually to clean off the grass stains (as opposed to soaking it in a good enzymatic laundry product.) Some people find this moving.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:32:28pm

re: #320 dangerman

from the daily beast via political-wire.com

after the emails came out and carson himself threw his wife under the bus, this is some special kind of mental gymnastics from Rep. Claudia Tenney (R-NY) :

LOLOLOLOL:

Ben Carson tried to—he said ‘you know how hard it is to turn it back because of the way that the procurement happens?’”

You send the damned thing back!

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:34:46pm

re: #340 teleskiguy

Awww! Give Bo all the treats!

That reminds me…I wonder how Bo and Sunny Obama are…
*wistful sighs*

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:34:49pm

re: #332 Dave In Austin

Why is he ripping the flag to shreds? That looks way too self aware for wingnut “art”.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:36:01pm

To put my two cents in on RIOT —- I find nothing sinister in the name. Unless we learn something else about its activities, my guess is that the camp itself was a fairly benign environment for young people who have been raised in very religious households.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:37:13pm

re: #333 calochortus

I just got this runner off the loom and hemmed. Of course, it won’t be seasonally appropriate for another 9 months or so, but it was fun to do.

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Now to get the silk warp for a couple scarves onto the loom. An empty loom is a sad sight.

Beautiful!

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Kragar  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:38:03pm

re: #346 Hecuba’s daughter

To put my two cents in on RIOT —- I find nothing sinister in the name. Unless we learn something else about its activities, my guess is that the camp itself was a fairly benign environment for young people who have been raised in very religious households.

A Madrasa by any other name…

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calochortus  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:38:11pm

re: #347 Stanley Sea

Thank you!

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:39:49pm

re: #346 Hecuba’s daughter

To put my two cents in on RIOT —- I find nothing sinister in the name. Unless we learn something else about its activities, my guess is that the camp itself was a fairly benign environment for young people who have been raised in very religious households.

Righteous Invasion of Truth sounds cray to me.
What I know about the group so far, in isolation, doesn’t.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:40:11pm

re: #345 Skip Intro

Why is he ripping the flag to shreds? That looks way too self aware for wingnut “art”.

That picture was discussed here a few weeks ago; the “artist” is a lying worthless Trumpster, pretending that football players who were protesting discrimination are not patriots but were trampling on the flag.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:41:36pm

re: #341 makeitstop

NBC News hired Natasha Bertrand as a contributor. Good move. She is an excellent reporter, and pretty funny at times.

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I loved how all caps DO NOT CONGRATULATE was trending on twitter yesterday.

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Kragar  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:41:46pm
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calochortus  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:42:04pm

re: #350 JordanRules

Righteous Invasion of Truth sounds cray to me.
What I know about the group so far, in isolation, doesn’t.

To me it sounds like parents, or possibly the kids, trying to be cool and tie a faith reference to mildly transgressive behavior and activities.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:42:46pm

re: #351 Hecuba’s daughter

When I hear the word “patriot” I want to unholster my gun.

Just kidding! Don’t blow a gasket!

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:43:55pm

re: #350 JordanRules

Righteous Invasion of Truth sounds cray to me.
What I know about the group so far, in isolation, doesn’t.

My guess is that they selected the acronym first and then had to figure what it stood for. That’s where they came up with the ridiculous “official” name — but RIOT was the intended name all along

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:44:14pm

re: #318 KGxvi

In fairness, I do support more robust immigration (and so should Cruz, being the son of an immigrant/refugee and all) and wouldn’t mind seeing many of the guns currently available and in circulation disappear.

But you don’t think we should send “jack-booted thugs” house to house to confiscate weapons like in the rightwing fantasy, correct?

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Woods Witch  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:44:14pm

re: #345 Skip Intro

It’s wingnut art. McNaughton to be exact. More here if you’re interested

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Kragar  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:45:24pm
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calochortus  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:46:06pm

re: #358 Woods Witch

It’s wingnut art. McNaughton to be exact. More here if you’re interested

The link should come with a warning to have brain bleach available. Or at least a dreck antidote.

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:46:29pm

re: #356 Hecuba’s daughter

My guess is that they selected the acronym first and then had to figure what it stood for. That’s where they came up with the ridiculous “official” name — but RIOT was the intended name all along

Oh I’d bet good money they started from the Christian cray first and maybe played with it to get a good logo worthy acronym.

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:47:03pm

re: #358 Woods Witch

No thanks.

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gocart mozart  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:48:39pm
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calochortus  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:49:26pm

re: #361 JordanRules

Oh I’d bet good money they started from the Christian cray first and maybe played with it to get a good logo worthy acronym.

I Googled the name. Apparently it was a mediocre Christian musical group in the ’90s. The camp probably just appropriated it.
Edited to add link.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:52:00pm

re: #363 gocart mozart

Man, Stormy is good at this Twitter thing.

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BeachDem  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:52:32pm

re: #359 Kragar

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Well, while they’re proceeding with their plans to destroy the Democratic Party, I just received this email from our state party chair here in south by dog carolina:

As of today, we have a Democrat running for every Congressional district in South Carolina.

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:54:44pm

re: #364 calochortus

I Googled the name. Apparently it was a mediocre Christian musical group in the ’90s. The camp probably just appropriated it.

Oh thats funny. I totally had the thought that it sounds like a wack Christian rock group.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:56:41pm

re: #363 gocart mozart

Never try to slut-shame a porn star who isn’t ashamed to be a porn star.

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calochortus  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:56:42pm

I’d better go get dinner started. Sear roasted chicken with an orange/shallot sauce, brown rice and roasted asparagus.
BBL

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:58:03pm

re: #368 Blind Frog Belly White

Never try to slut-shame a porn star who isn’t ashamed to be a porn star.

Granpappy’s advice is still good!

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:58:38pm

re: #369 calochortus

I’d better go get dinner started. Sear roasted chicken with an orange/shallot sauce, brown rice and roasted asparagus.
BBL

I’m having gin but that sounds good too.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 21, 2018 • 4:59:13pm

re: #371 bill d. (b.d.)

I’m having gin but that sounds good too.

Biryani and Stoli vodka. Yes, I know it’s Russian, but that’s actually why I bought it - I might not be able to get any after all is said and done.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:00:23pm

re: #353 Kragar

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Lol. That’s why you’re stupid Charlie.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:00:40pm

shitshow

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makeitstop  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:03:10pm

re: #363 gocart mozart

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Stormy’s snark game is next-level.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:04:14pm

This is fascinating.

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teleskiguy  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:04:32pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:09:11pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:09:26pm

re: #372 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Biryani and Stoli vodka. Yes, I know it’s Russian, but that’s actually why I bought it - I might not be able to get any after all is said and done.

The Russian stuff is the least likely to have a deadly nerve agent in it, I’m having a classic martini with Plymouth Gin.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:09:53pm

re: #377 teleskiguy

Maybe it’s like a 25 minute Andy Rooney “You know what I hate?….” spiel.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:10:27pm

re: #378 Stanley Sea

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LAMB SHOULD HAVE TOLD OFF THAT WINGNUT, DAMN APPEASER!!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:10:33pm

re: #379 bill d. (b.d.)

The Russian stuff is the least likely to have a deadly nerve agent in it, I’m having a classic martini with Plymouth Gin.

Well, alcohol itself is a deadly nerve agent, if enough is consumed.

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makeitstop  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:11:39pm

re: #364 calochortus

I Googled the name. Apparently it was a mediocre Christian musical group in the ’90s. The camp probably just appropriated it.
Edited to add link.

There’s also a band called Riot from NYC who were pretty much not Christian, and pretty good, too.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:12:04pm

re: #382 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Well, alcohol itself is a deadly nerve agent, if enough is consumed.

That’s a feature, not a bug…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:12:30pm

re: #332 Dave In Austin

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should be a Russian flag…

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:14:32pm

re: #382 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

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BeachDem  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:14:52pm

re: #377 teleskiguy

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They’re saying that #MarkConditt left a 25 minute confessional on his cell phone re: the #AustinBombins but left no indication or inkling as to why he chose the victims? What was he talking about for 25 minutes?

Welp, the police chief’s already convinced that “This is an outcry by a very challenged young man.” (How very white of him.)

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:15:02pm

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

Raise young men who can take “no” for an answer.

And who don’t regard women as property, and not very valuable property at that.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:15:57pm

re: #329 JordanRules

Agreed. When I read all the available info we had about the group it seemed relatively benign (and very white), lots of buzz words but not a lot actually there. But I think it should be looked into because there certainly could be more. That name is a lot.

My other observation…phrases like “blowing off steam” perk up my ears because even if that is entirely the case, it’s not the type of benefit afforded kids of color. This would look super sinister if it was brown or black teens (they’d also likely get promoted to instant 15 and 16 year old adults). And as you said wrt to comparing certain types of “terrorists” I think it’s fair to point this out even as we try to react to and asses this appropriately.

Can you imagine the reaction to the Nation of Islam having a summer camp called “RIOT” with weapons training? They’d be calling it a terrorist training camp.

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teleskiguy  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:18:22pm

I’m fairly certain that Roy Moore hasn’t conceded his election loss *to this day.*

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:19:54pm

re: #257 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Why? What’s their rationale? What possible reason could they have for not spending money on vital 21st-century infrastructure?

None of their paymasters, excuse me, supporters, will make any money off it.

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:21:47pm

re: #375 makeitstop

Stormy’s snark game is next-level.

They deal with all kinds of crap from fans and haters alike. Many of them know social media better than most because that’s where they can profit most.

Daniels takes that next-level alright.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:21:52pm

re: #363 gocart mozart

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I love Stormy’s tweets! She absolutely owns who she is, and takes no crap.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:22:07pm

re: #364 calochortus

I Googled the name. Apparently it was a mediocre Christian musical group in the ’90s. The camp probably just appropriated it.
Edited to add link.

I hate to do this, but…redundancy alert! (And I have nothing against personal faith or even using it in music, but I’ve never heard a band that can do it well without slipping into the “I fall on my knees to praise thee” chorus.)

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:22:08pm

re: #363 gocart mozart

I love how strong Stormy is. She gives as much as she takes and doesn’t pull any punches. Love that she’s taking down Trump a notch given how much of a sexist douche he is.

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ObserverArt  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:22:32pm

re: #387 BeachDem

They’re saying that #MarkConditt left a 25 minute confessional on his cell phone re: the #AustinBombins but left no indication or inkling as to why he chose the victims? What was he talking about for 25 minutes?

Welp, the police chief’s already convinced that “This is an outcry by a very challenged young man.” (How very white of him.)

Whut?

Sheriff please explain this young man’s challenges and why he had to outcry by bombing. Make it good!

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451_Montag  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:23:00pm

re: #379 bill d. (b.d.)

The Russian stuff is the least likely to have a deadly nerve agent in it, I’m having a classic martini with Plymouth Gin.

Plymouth Gin? Oh yes.

Interesting fact. I spent 8 years living in Plymouth. South-west England next to Dartmoor and Cornwall

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:24:39pm

re: #374 Stanley Sea

So this administration is using readouts of international calls as propaganda tools where they hide stuff from the public? Good to know.

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ObserverArt  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:25:41pm

re: #389 Big Beautiful Door

Can you imagine the reaction to the Nation of Islam having a summer camp called “RIOT” with weapons training? They’d be calling it a terrorist training camp.

If Obama went to a camp called RIOT operated by Reverend Wright as a young man we’d still be hearing about it. It would be a Fox Nightly Topic.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:26:16pm

re: #377 teleskiguy

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They should release the full tape so the public can try to decipher his motives. If he was anything but a White male, his motives would be known. Believe me!

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:27:16pm

re: #353 Kragar

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And in prison.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:28:04pm

The GOP are bunch of spineless, complicit fucks.

I hate Trump but I hate Republicans even more for not doing anything ABOUT Trump.

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:29:02pm

re: #399 ObserverArt

We’re still hearing about how some Democrats aren’t denouncing Farrakhan.

Meanwhile, the GOP wont lift a finger against a goddamned Nazi who won an Illinois primary on the GOP ticket and wont say anything bad about a sex predator who embraces white supremacists and Nazis (and equates Nazis with the people protesting them).

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CleverToad  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:29:58pm

re: #354 calochortus

To me it sounds like parents, or possibly the kids, trying to be cool and tie a faith reference to mildly transgressive behavior and activities.

Our mainstream Lutheran church has a middle/high school youth group called CHAOS (Christ Has All Our Solutions). RIOT could be something similar, trying to sound cool for the kids. Would have to know a lot more about the adults running the program to make an informed judgment (but will confess to being wary of Texas fundies, knowing several).

Will note that our group is primarily public-school kids; they go on mountain retreats a couple of weekends a year but there is no weapons training in the curriculum. The wildest shenanigan I’ve heard from my kid is the time some of the freshman got hold of a bottle of communion wine and passed it around. About three swigs apiece, enough to convince him he doesn’t particularly like wine.

My Texas hubby commented that all the news orgs will have to learn how to spell Pflugerville. Up till now, my main association with the name was his tale of the rumored Pflugerville floating orgy back in the 70’s.

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CleverToad  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:30:44pm

re: #333 calochortus

I just got this runner off the loom and hemmed. Of course, it won’t be seasonally appropriate for another 9 months or so, but it was fun to do.

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Now to get the silk warp for a couple scarves onto the loom. An empty loom is a sad sight.

Wow. That is lovely!

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Stanley Sea  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:31:41pm

re: #397 451_Montag

On my phone, so too lazy to do maps, but is this the “cliff coast?”

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:31:42pm

re: #397 451_Montag

Plymouth Gin? Oh yes.

Interesting fact. I spent 8 years living in Plymouth. South-west England next to Dartmoor and Cornwall

how cool

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:34:07pm

re: #402 Eclectic Cyborg

The GOP are bunch of spineless, complicit fucks.

I hate Trump but I hate Republicans even more for not doing anything ABOUT Trump.

I honestly hate the base most.

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scottslemmons  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:34:32pm

re: #257 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Why? What’s their rationale? What possible reason could they have for not spending money on vital 21st-century infrastructure?

Easy to keep your schemes quiet when the Internet and newspapers are either dead or owned by Republicans. Easier to build a nation of slaves when no one’s educated.

And they’ve learned from the venture capitalists. Buy a property, scrape it for profits, burn it to the ground, skedaddle to the tropics.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:36:15pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:39:32pm

re: #282 ObserverArt

Heh, Ari Melber is interviewing Roger Stone buddy Randy Credico and is pulling up videos of him and Roger Stone saying things. As he was bringing up a video you could hear Credico say “wow, you are prepared.”

Yeah, Ari is good.

And now Credico is going off all nutty. Seems he is trying to not be in this interview now.

Roger Stone people are all fucking nuts.

Here is the crazy interview. This is interesting just on it’s bizarre aspects. It’s long but entertaining.

Iframe

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:39:48pm

I know this is random, but “excoriate” was one of Hannity’s favorite words back when I masochistically listened to his radio show for a few minutes every once in awhile on long commutes (it was downstate central Indiana and the pickens were slim otherwise).

ETA: Oops, forgot to add that Trump used the word in a recent post “…want me to excoriate Putin…”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:41:49pm

re: #410 Backwoods_Sleuth

“We have to pass the bill to see what’s in it.”

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:42:00pm

“Mom? Help me!….”

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gocart mozart  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:42:00pm
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BeachDem  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:42:20pm

re: #413 Barefoot Grin

I know this is random, but “excoriate” was one of Hannity’s favorite words back when I masochistically listened to his radio show for a few minutes every once in awhile on long commutes (it was downstate central Indiana and the pickens were slim otherwise).

Somebody should challenge the yam to pronounce it—I’ll bet he can’t.

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Kragar  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:42:28pm

re: #413 Barefoot Grin

The only time I listen to Hannity is when I’m waiting for a traffic update.

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gocart mozart  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:42:54pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:42:54pm

re: #403 lawhawk

We’re still hearing about how some Democrats aren’t denouncing Farrakhan.

Meanwhile, the GOP wont lift a finger against a goddamned Nazi who won an Illinois primary on the GOP ticket and wont say anything bad about a sex predator who embraces white supremacists and Nazis (and equates Nazis with the people protesting them).

Or give back rapist Steve Wynn’s $$$

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:43:35pm

re: #416 gocart mozart

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No shit.

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TedStriker  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:43:42pm

re: #413 Barefoot Grin

I know this is random, but “excoriate” was one of Hannity’s favorite words back when I masochistically listened to his radio show for a few minutes every once in awhile on long commutes (it was downstate central Indiana and the pickens were slim otherwise).

I see what you did there…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:43:59pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:44:25pm

re: #403 lawhawk

We’re still hearing about how some Democrats aren’t denouncing Farrakhan.

Meanwhile, the GOP wont lift a finger against a goddamned Nazi who won an Illinois primary on the GOP ticket and wont say anything bad about a sex predator who embraces white supremacists and Nazis (and equates Nazis with the people protesting them).

I missed where Farkahan has any influence over the Dems at all.

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gocart mozart  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:45:54pm
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:46:06pm

re: #418 Kragar

The only time I listen to Hannity is when I’m waiting for a traffic update.

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gocart mozart  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:46:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:47:01pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:47:02pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:47:48pm

Death of local newspapers watch.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:51:30pm

re: #429 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Old Billy Idol joke:

“Billy, I’ve heard you’ve been born again.”

“Born again? No, I’m into porn again.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:53:18pm
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Jay C  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:53:59pm

re: #403 lawhawk

We’re still hearing about how some Democrats aren’t denouncing Farrakhan.

Meanwhile, the GOP wont lift a finger against a goddamned Nazi who won an Illinois primary on the GOP ticket and wont say anything bad about a sex predator who embraces white supremacists and Nazis (and equates Nazis with the people protesting them).

Far be it from me to defend national political-party hacks (from either R or D side) for their manifold failings - usually self-inflicted - but IIRC, the Illinois GOP made it quite clear from the get-go that the Nazi asshole “running” in the IL-03 Congressional primary (unopposed, but that’s another kettle of political malpractice) would get no endorsement, and bupkis in the way of support from the state Party.
It’s still an embarrassment, to be sure, but it’s not clear - outside of loud public denunciation - what “the GOP” can do in these cases where nutbars claim a “Republican” affiliation, and run on the ticket regardless.
Of course, in the case of one Mr. Trump, Donald J. the party made its choice quite clear…..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:55:33pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:56:39pm
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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2018 • 5:59:20pm

re: #436 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:00:31pm
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BeachDem  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:00:54pm

Just what the Senate needs—Foster fucking Friess.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:01:19pm

re: #437 lawhawk

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Kirk is the same genius who claimed Obama appointed more women to high ranking positions than any other President and included only one cabinet level official in the photo. My friend tried pushing it but I called it as the bs it was.

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gocart mozart  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:01:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:02:21pm

re: #439 BeachDem

Just what the Senate needs—Foster fucking Friess.

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JFC. Get down on your knees for aspirin.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:03:07pm

re: #441 gocart mozart

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I’ve seen victims of crime get less charitable treatment.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:04:29pm
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BeachDem  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:05:31pm

re: #441 gocart mozart

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Meanwhile, in Sacramento:

“Hey, show me your hands!” an officer yells at Clark as they continue to chase him. As the two officers round the corner, one yells out “gun!”

“Gun! Gun, gun, gun!” he shouts. Both officers unleash a hail of gunfire on the unarmed man.

One of the officers says he is going to do a “tactical reload.”

TWENTY FUCKING SHOTS

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:06:02pm
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Amory Blaine  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:06:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:08:17pm

re: #445 BeachDem

Meanwhile, in Sacramento:

“Hey, show me your hands!” an officer yells at Clark as they continue to chase him. As the two officers round the corner, one yells out “gun!”

“Gun! Gun, gun, gun!” he shouts. Both officers unleash a hail of gunfire on the unarmed man.

One of the officers says he is going to do a “tactical reload.”

TWENTY FUCKING SHOTS

Yeah but kneeling is just awful l.//

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Jay C  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:08:23pm

OT maybe, but it’s weird: despite all the dire predictions of snow, etc. fro the latest Nor’easter, I haven’t seen a flake fall all day here in the Scenic Berkshires (tm), and still none at 21:00 ET. Not that I’m complaining, mind: but given that most of the seaboard regions have gotten majorly dumped on, it’s fairly peculiar.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:08:34pm

re: #439 BeachDem

Has Rick Santorum endorsed his Sugar Daddy Foster yet?

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:09:42pm

re: #438 Backwoods_Sleuth

Shiiiiiteeee… that means Trump’s going to fire Mueller.

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:11:46pm

re: #446 Backwoods_Sleuth

Can we call him a domestic terrorist now?

Because having a kill list certainly sounds like something a terrorist would put together.

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BeachDem  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:13:46pm

re: #441 gocart mozart

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Seems like days ago I posted this, but it was at the beginning of this very thread:

When The Media Treats White Suspects And Killers Better Than Black Victims

huffingtonpost.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:19:12pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:21:57pm

heh

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meteor  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:24:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:24:29pm

thread:

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makeitstop  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:24:44pm

re: #449 Jay C

OT maybe, but it’s weird: despite all the dire predictions of snow, etc. fro the latest Nor’easter, I haven’t seen a flake fall all day here in the Scenic Berkshires (tm), and still none at 21:00 ET. Not that I’m complaining, mind: but given that most of the seaboard regions have gotten majorly dumped on, it’s fairly peculiar.

I’ve got some extra over here if you want it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:28:01pm

and

it’s times like this I love twitter

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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:28:04pm

re: #452 lawhawk

Can we call him a domestic terrorist now?

Because having a kill list certainly sounds like something a terrorist would put together.

No because he was white and comes from a Christian fundamemtalist family. Call him a terrorist and you may as well call all Trump supporters terrorists too.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:28:23pm

re: #461 Skip Intro

No because he was white and comes from a Christian fundamemtalist family. Call him a terrorist and you may as well call all Trump supporters terrorists too.

And the problem there is…?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:29:56pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:30:25pm

re: #462 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And the problem there is…?

Well, it just isn’t done.

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lawhawk  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:31:44pm

re: #461 Skip Intro

They’re enabling domestic terrorists and Christian Taliban.

Close enough?

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stpaulbear  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:31:47pm

re: #463 Backwoods_Sleuth

”..and your little dog too!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:34:34pm
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darthstar  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:34:42pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:40:47pm

So I have Paged more than twice in objection to how police use devices that mimic cell towers without warrant or adequate guidelines. Looking at how they caught the Austin bomber I think they did really great work with that tech in recent days.

Fair is fair right?

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darthstar  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:43:55pm

Seriously…what the fuck kind of question is this?

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stpaulbear  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:46:29pm

re: #470 darthstar

I got one of those questions a couple weeks ago and checked the “You really really suck” box. That was the only question I got.

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darthstar  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:47:44pm

re: #471 stpaulbear

I got one of those questions a couple weeks ago and checked the “You really really suck” box. That was the only question I got.

I said Privacy was my biggest concern. A box popped up asking why I chose that. I filled it with something to the effect of, “Haven’t you been watching the news? You guys are selling our data to anyone who wants it…”

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scottslemmons  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:49:37pm

One of my Facebook friends just announced she’s deleting her account, which is really too bad, because she always had lots of interesting stuff to post, and frankly, her family is hilarious and awesome.

I’m too cowardly to delete it myself, or Twitter either. Partly because I like my social timewasters a lot, partly because I could potentially get a social media job one of these days, and I’d need to have a Facebook account to run a Facebook page… :/

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freetoken  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:52:56pm

re: #473 scottslemmons

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darthstar  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:53:15pm

BTW, Just got back from 10 days in Kauai. Took a private Napali coast tour on a 25ft boat with wife and brother and a couple of friends. Wasn’t cheap, but worth it. Seas were a bit rough, and indeed, there was a small craft advisory. 10 ft swells and chop. Boat banged around a lot and everyone got wet. Did see some breaching whales though, a flying fish on the west side of the island, and some fantastic caves though it was too rough to take the boat in.

Here are a couple of ‘pirates’ - unlicensed tour guides (like ours, only his boat was bigger) - they’d just dropped some hikers 10 miles down the coast (we saw them walking back toward Hanalei soon after this shot). Love how the guy on the jet ski doesn’t even have a life jacket. Guy in the front boat is flashing a hang-loose wave.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:57:32pm

re: #475 darthstar

Rough seas. I mean wow.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:58:28pm

oops. That ole, I forgot I had a comment there troubles.

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darthstar  Mar 21, 2018 • 6:59:15pm

re: #473 scottslemmons

One of my Facebook friends just announced she’s deleting her account, which is really too bad, because she always had lots of interesting stuff to post, and frankly, her family is hilarious and awesome.

I’m too cowardly to delete it myself, or Twitter either. Partly because I like my social timewasters a lot, partly because I could potentially get a social media job one of these days, and I’d need to have a Facebook account to run a Facebook page… :/

I won’t delete mine. I learned over a decade ago not to share personal info online that I didn’t want being used by marketers. I tend to pollute fb with dog pics mostly.

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freetoken  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:01:23pm

We can speak of Facebook being evil, but I propose that it is really no different than the rest of society, where a few people figure out how to manipulate masses of others, for the benefit of the few.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:05:15pm
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Kragar  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:13:22pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:16:00pm

re: #468 darthstar

I hate that fucking commercial.

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teleskiguy  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:22:22pm

The talk of executing political opponents is becoming more brazen on the Fuckface Von Clownstick right.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:24:01pm

re: #476 Stanley Sea

They are blaming it on “contractors and third parties”. The article also notes that Jared himself didn’t personally sign any of the false filings.

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darthstar  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:25:54pm

re: #482 Eclectic Cyborg

I hate that fucking commercial.

Me too…my first response was ‘Grandma always was a shitty cook.’ but I didn’t want people thinking I meant my grandma so I watered it down a bit.

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Jay C  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:28:53pm

re: #481 Kragar

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WJAFM: “…ensuring that detainees are not harbored by sanctuary cities”?? Does the Hon. Mr. Speaker Ryan not realize (or care)*, that if someone is a “detainee”, they are, y’know, being detained, whether they are in a “sanctuary city” or not?
Sloppy composition? Stupid meme? Or both…..?

* rhetorical question, it’s Paul Ryan: of course he doesn’t care

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:29:10pm

Why do I think the Austin bombings are going to be used as a plot for an episode of one of those police procedurals some time next year?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:31:38pm

re: #487 Eclectic Cyborg

Why do I think the Austin bombings are going to be used as a plot for an episode of one of those police procedurals some time next year?

*DOONK DOONK*

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:32:17pm

re: #487 Eclectic Cyborg

Probably because that was Law & Orders MO for decades.

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Belafon  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:33:10pm

re: #480 goddamnedfrank

My middle son was relaying a story about our youngest. They were talking about what they do when they’re mouthing along with others, like saying the pledge. My middle son said he memorizes stuff and lip syncs. My youngest, son, he said, just mouths the word watermelon over and over again.

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JordanRules  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:33:31pm

re: #488 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

*DOONK DOONK*

Ha! There it is.

I miss Jack McCoy. They used to have great ongoing storylines with the Russian mob.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:34:37pm

Yam portraits. Never a dull moment.

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darthstar  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:35:43pm

re: #476 Stanley Sea

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Rough seas. I mean wow.

I had to take a video of it. Doesn’t pick up how rough it was near the reef though. And here’s a cool cave shot with waterfall and sunlight coming through…once I put everything into a photos folder I’ll share the whole link so people can steal hi-res wallpapers.
Video link: photos.app.goo.gl

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darthstar  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:39:09pm

Don’t absentee ballots normally get counted AFTER the polls close?

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makeitstop  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:39:21pm

re: #491 JordanRules

Ha! There it is.

I miss Jack McCoy. They used to have great ongoing storylines with the Russian mob.

Lenny Briscoe forever! He was the best.

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teleskiguy  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:39:38pm
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Brian J.  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:39:53pm

re: #487 Eclectic Cyborg

Why do I think the Austin bombings are going to be used as a plot for an episode of one of those police procedurals some time next year?

No doubt depicting the terrorist bomber as a patsy for the International Conspiracy to do whatever white Christians think should be done to the other 90% of the planet.

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:39:57pm

re: #483 teleskiguy

The talk of executing political opponents is becoming more brazen on the Fuckface Von Clownstick right.

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I admit I’m curious about how he arrived at that conclusion.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:39:58pm

re: #491 JordanRules

Ha! There it is.

I miss Jack McCoy. They used to have great ongoing storylines with the Russian mob.

I was addicted. I was beside myself when Claire died. (Lenny)

We always called Adam Schiff THE SAGE.

*DOONK DOONK*

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:41:21pm

re: #495 makeitstop

Lenny Briscoe forever! He was the best.

Sorry. I was always a big fan of Benson and Stabler. SVU was my jam.

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jaunte  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:41:43pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:41:57pm

re: #493 darthstar

I had to take a video of it. Doesn’t pick up how rough it was near the reef though. And here’s a cool cave shot with waterfall and sunlight coming through…once I put everything into a photos folder I’ll share the whole link so people can steal hi-res wallpapers.
Video link: photos.app.goo.gl

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I would’ve loved it, just for the adventure & near death situation. But for sightseeing, idk. Not the Bahamas!

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darthstar  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:44:46pm

re: #502 Stanley Sea

I would’ve loved it, just for the adventure & near death situation. But for sightseeing, idk. Not the Bahamas!

We actually got out and went for a swim at one point, at a place called Tunnels. It was a little scary as the reef wasn’t far away and the breakers were double overhead, but we did it - for about 10 minutes - afterward, the guide texted us to say, “BTW, that’s where Bethany Hamilton (pro surfer) got her arm bit off by a tiger shark.”

Good times!

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:45:02pm

re: #494 darthstar

Don’t absentee ballots normally get counted AFTER the polls close?

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She probably means GOTV returns. IOW when they call known profiled voters and get a response saying that person has sent in an absentee ballot. County level returns will also break down how many absentee ballots have been received to date, even though they aren’t counted until election night.

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scottslemmons  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:46:48pm

re: #483 teleskiguy

The talk of executing political opponents is becoming more brazen on the Fuckface Von Clownstick right.

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Does he not know what a capital crime is?

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darthstar  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:47:02pm

re: #504 goddamnedfrank

She probably means GOTV returns. IOW when they call known profiled voters and get a response saying that person has sent in an absentee ballot. County level returns will also break down how many absentee ballots have been received to date, even though they aren’t counted until election night.

Take a look at the thread…I’d like to think you’re right.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:48:13pm

re: #503 darthstar

We actually got out and went for a swim at one point, at a place called Tunnels. It was a little scary as the reef wasn’t far away and the breakers were double overhead, but we did it - for about 10 minutes - afterward, the guide texted us to say, “BTW, that’s where Bethany Hamilton (pro surfer) got her arm bit off by a tiger shark.”

Good times!

shit!

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darthstar  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:48:35pm

re: #506 darthstar

Take a look at the thread…I’d like to think you’re right.

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darthstar  Mar 21, 2018 • 7:49:37pm

re: #508 darthstar

Then again, Twitter is full of conspiracy theorists…maybe I’m getting sucked into one here.

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VegasGolfer  Mar 21, 2018 • 8:19:08pm

re: #305 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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The Major  Mar 21, 2018 • 8:19:09pm

re: #460 Backwoods_Sleuth


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