The Bob Cesca Show: Clever Little Bastards

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Clever Little Bastards: NSFW; Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; John Bolton is terrifying; The March For Our Lives; The tenacious leadership of Emma Gonzalez and David Hogg; Repealing the Second Amendment; The dumbest pro-gun tweet of the weekend; Trolling Tomi Lahren; Republicans love to attack kids; Pennsylvania school district arms kids with rocks; The Stormy Daniels Interview; Michael Cohen confessed; Trolling the Troll-in-Chief; Pigman John Dowd resigns from Trump’s legal team; and much more.

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288 comments

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Amory Blaine  Mar 27, 2018 • 2:21:52pm

I sure would appreciate a show with Charles again.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 27, 2018 • 2:33:15pm

Phyllis Schlafly with a mustache…….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 2:34:40pm
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Amory Blaine  Mar 27, 2018 • 2:37:01pm

Judge denies delay to Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker in calling two special elections

A Dane County judge Tuesday denied Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker’s request for a delay before he has to call two court-ordered special election.

In a late night filing Monday, Walker had asked the judge to allow an extra week so the governor and GOP lawmakers could approve legislation giving him broader powers to determine when to allow voters to fill vacancies in the Legislature.

Circuit Court Judge Richard Niess turned down the request Tuesday, saying he couldn’t take into account a vote by the Legislature before it happens.

Walker and his fellow Republicans want to overturn a court order that he call special elections to fill the seats of two lawmakers who stepped down in December to join his administration.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 27, 2018 • 2:37:38pm

School children broke the NRA.

A porn star broke Trump.

A reality star broke the GOP.

Priceless.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 27, 2018 • 2:38:37pm

re: #4 Amory Blaine

Judge denies delay to Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker in calling two special elections

So they’re going to vote on it tomorrow, then?

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freetoken  Mar 27, 2018 • 2:39:12pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hasn’t this been the basic m.o. of Murdoch?

Does the Republican party, and Trump, ever pay for Murdoch to push them on the air?

No.

And since Fox News can be called “entertainment”, it doesn’t matter to election laws.

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scottslemmons  Mar 27, 2018 • 2:40:03pm

re: #6 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

So they’re going to vote on it tomorrow, then?

The bill doesn’t have to make sense — they just want something they can slow-walk through the courts.

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jaunte  Mar 27, 2018 • 2:40:59pm
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Dr. Matt  Mar 27, 2018 • 2:41:04pm

BTW: most of yesterday’s gains in the Dow were erased today: Dow -344.89(-1.43%)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 27, 2018 • 2:41:26pm

re: #8 scottslemmons

The bill doesn’t have to make sense — they just want something they can slow-walk through the courts.

It’ll be handwritten in the margins. That’s how all the best legislation is made, amirite?

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 27, 2018 • 2:47:23pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hopefully, Rachel can break all that down into simple terminology. Some of this is so complex that regular folks (like me) can’t understand it completely so it goes right over our heads. Thankfully, it won’t go over Mueller’s head or the first rate lawyers he has conducting an investigation into Trump and Russia.

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Belafon  Mar 27, 2018 • 2:50:43pm

re: #12 Patricia Kayden

Hopefully, Rachel can break all that down into simple terminology. Some of this is so complex that regular folks (like me) can’t understand it completely so it goes right over our heads. Thankfully, it won’t go over Mueller’s head or the first rate lawyers he has conducting an investigation into Trump and Russia.

In this case, it’s fairly simple. They can only donate so much to campaigns. But, if they’re willing to take a loss, they can give it to a company who then does work for the campaign. An indirect donation.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mar 27, 2018 • 2:51:15pm

re: #12 Patricia Kayden

It’s pretty easy actually. Imagine a situation where if you donate directly to a campaign you have to declare those donations as political. But if you take the same amount of money and “invest” in a company doing data dirty work for said campaign you don’t have to declare it because it’s not “technically” a donation to the campaign. Honestly it sounds like a form of money laundering to a campaign. In the end, the work done by said company you invested in supports the candidate you want.

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Kragar  Mar 27, 2018 • 2:51:58pm

re: #12 Patricia Kayden

Hopefully, Rachel can break all that down into simple terminology. Some of this is so complex that regular folks (like me) can’t understand it completely so it goes right over our heads. Thankfully, it won’t go over Mueller’s head or the first rate lawyers he has conducting an investigation into Trump and Russia.

Mercer “invested” millions into opposition research, dirty tricks, and propaganda, then had CA sell the product to their chosen political campaigns for a fraction of the cost.

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Belafon  Mar 27, 2018 • 2:52:24pm

On I-20, between Caddo Mills and Royse City, TX, the maddoggroup put up a billboard saying “End the NRA.” Pretty bold out there.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 27, 2018 • 2:53:16pm

re: #5 Dr. Matt

School children broke the NRA.

A porn star broke Trump.

A reality star broke the GOP.

Priceless.

You tweet that yet Doc?

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electrotek  Mar 27, 2018 • 2:53:22pm

re: #16 Belafon

On I-20, between Caddo Mills and Royse City, TX, the maddoggroup put up a billboard saying “End the NRA.” Pretty bold out there.

Whoa, are you serious?!?!?!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 27, 2018 • 2:55:55pm

After Fatal Uber Incident, Nvidia Defers Autonomous Car Testing On Public Roads

Nvidia today announced that it would suspend its testing of autonomous cars on public roads until it knows what went wrong last week, when a self-driven Uber vehicle featuring Nvidia’s technology struck and killed a pedestrian in Arizona.

The idea of self-driving cars is gaining a lot of traction these days, but the incident in Arizona may put the idea of autonomous cars on hold for a while. On May 18, a Volvo XC90 SUV equipped with Uber’s autonomous vehicle system struck and killed a pedestrian who was crossing the road.

Following the incident, Uber suspended its self-driving testing program in all cities, and earlier today the Governor of Arizona suspended Uber’s right to test automated vehicles in the state pending the NTSB and NHTSA’s investigations.

Uber isn’t the only company affected by this incident; the fatality puts heavy scrutiny on other autonomous car initiatives. Nvidia is currently leading the charge in developing technologies for self-driving vehicles, and it’s not taking the news of Uber’s fatal crash lightly.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 27, 2018 • 2:56:47pm

re: #16 Belafon

Any idea who’s Cong. District that is?

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Dr. Matt  Mar 27, 2018 • 2:56:52pm

re: #17 Dave In Austin

You tweet that yet Doc?

I’m no longer on twitter because I wished the Alt-right and Nazis would get ball cancer. True story. Apparently that’s hate speech.

You can tweet it out.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 27, 2018 • 2:58:41pm

re: #21 Dr. Matt

Deathwish2020…. That sucks but it was prolly worth it

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:05:17pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:06:44pm

In political coverage news: Natasha Bertrand has a new do. She looks more mature, Nice. Carry on.

Hmmm… she does work for The Atlantic. I wonder what she thinks of WIlliamson as a new hire?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:07:56pm
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Dave In Austin  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:11:10pm

“Shall not be Infringed!!”

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dangerman  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:12:19pm

they rushed the tax law through - hand writing changes in the margins

then they sped the withholding tax tables update
so it would look like you were getting a tax break a whole year early

cnbc

Just 32 percent of the public reports having more take home pay because of the tax cuts, including only 48 percent of Trump supporters and 35 percent of the middle class. More than half say they see no change in their paychecks and 16 percent are unsure.

my ital

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:13:15pm
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freetoken  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:13:55pm

Stevens has done a very important service, I think, in putting his opinion on the 2A out there.

Thinking about the Overton Window and such phenomenon, one reason why the Trump hate-right has been so successful is that they don’t moderate themselves. They go whole hog into their hate of this or that (mostly brown people.)

We need a national conversation on doing exactly what Stevens suggests. We need to force the political window far, far away from the the gun-fetishists’ own view of this world, as far as possible.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:16:05pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She always lies about stuff easy to debunk just like her boss.

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freetoken  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:17:02pm

I want to desacramentalize the Constitution.

Gun-fetishists have made the 2A their primary religion.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:19:06pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

She always lies about stuff easy to debunk just like her boss.

She’s as ignorant as her boss and figures that she will not pay for lying. She thinks it preferable to sound confident about a statement than to say that she doesn’t know and will check on it. They probably want to push the myth that this was another Obama decision that they are reversing, instead of a decision made before Obama (or Sarah) was even born.

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KGxvi  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:21:42pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If that’s not a campaign finance violation, it’s probably a violation of anti-trust and/or unfair competition laws.

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dangerman  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:24:59pm

re: #29 freetoken

Stevens has done a very important service, I think, in putting his opinion on the 2A out there.

Thinking about the Overton Window and such phenomenon, one reason why the Trump hate-right has been so successful is that they don’t moderate themselves. They go whole hog into their hate of this or that (mostly brown people.)

We need a national conversation on doing exactly what Stevens suggests. We need to force the political window far, far away from the the gun-fetishists’ own view of this world, as far as possible.

a national debate or conversation is not likely.
it would have to be two-way and reasonable

right now one side with righteous indignation believes only the other is and can be capable of behaving despicably

and that side thinks any conversation would lead to their losing something

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freetoken  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:27:41pm

Changing beliefs in a society sometimes takes a long time.

Today, most Americans would agree that we ought not intentionally kill whales (and other cetaceans). Maybe most Americans are not able to articulate the foundational ethics behind this modern belief, but they have it anyway.

But that was not so three centuries ago. Back in the early 18th century, killing whales was still a thing. It’s what people did. It was normal. It was expected for some parts of commerce.

Now, it was not a great social movement that changed that but the change over to fossil fuels that made whales obsolete.

Still, while guns are not the same, since for the gun-fetishists guns have not been surpassed in technology for their fantasies, in other parts of life modern inventions are shining a light on how out of place unchecked gun worship has become.

And that is not going to go away. This ball has been rolling at least since Sandy Hook, that public demonstration over the unconscionable laxity we in America have to gun ownership is really now becoming a political rallying point.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:27:43pm
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KGxvi  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:28:00pm

re: #34 dangerman

right now one side with righteous indignation believes only the other is and can be capable of behaving despicably

and that side thinks any conversation would lead to their losing something

Funny thing, both sides probably believe that about the other.

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KGxvi  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:29:57pm

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

Also, I was under the impression that the argument against Bolton was that there isn’t a country in the world he wouldn’t consider invading based on less than truthful evidence.

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freetoken  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:35:16pm

re: #34 dangerman

a national debate or conversation is not likely.
it would have to be two-way and reasonable

What Stevens is doing is a bit subversive.

Which might sound strange, given his opinion piece is in the public.

But what Stevens has done is indicative that it is now political relevant for those who have been in governance at the highest level to come out in favor of facing head on the problem that the 2A has become.

The important bit about Stevens is that he represents the old-Republicans, the Republicans before this latest batch (those who cut their teeth on trying to take down Bill Clinton, right up to Trump.)

I don’t know how long it will take, but eventually the public discourse will find itself embracing this idea of putting the 2A in its rightful place, which is not as something sacred, but as now a millstone around America’s neck.

As I’ve written before, I don’t think it had to come this, but the gun-nuts have so built up the 2A into a rallying point that it is now incumbent upon those of us who don’t want to live in the anarchy-of-the-gun to make our voices heard, that fantasies have to fall in order for humans to be saved.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:35:58pm

re: #16 Belafon

On I-20, between Caddo Mills and Royse City, TX, the maddoggroup put up a billboard saying “End the NRA.” Pretty bold out there.

Only one minor quibble on this
It’s I-30 that runs between Caddo Mills and Royce City

/pedantic Dallas resident

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:36:45pm
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BlueGrl21  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:36:54pm

Can I just say I love the juxtaposition of a punked-out Emma Gonzales and David Hogg in a suit standing next to each other?

Because I know it’s deliberate because they’re that saavy about optics.

Carry on, kids.

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dangerman  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:38:02pm

re: #37 KGxvi

right now one side with righteous indignation believes only the other is and can be capable of behaving despicably

and that side thinks any conversation would lead to their losing something

Funny thing, both sides probably believe that about the other.

no, in broad brushes, i dont think so.

the left / dems do not generally believe that only the right behaves despicably. in fact the dems have done marginally better at policing their own. certainly (imho) the despicability of the right is more obvious and prevalent.

and overall i think democrats are more than willing to debate and negotiate issues knowing full well they wont get everything and there will be compromise

the right considers “bipartisanship” a loss

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:39:02pm
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gwangung  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:39:39pm

re: #43 dangerman

the right considers “bipartisanship” a loss

And “compromise” is a dirty word, always to be avoided.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:39:39pm

So, this just appeared in my Facebook feed:

startribune.com

The Twin Cities Liberian community’s push for an indefinite extension to a deportation reprieve program for Liberia natives came up short as the Trump administration announced Tuesday it will end the program in 12 months.

The program, Deferred Enforced Departure, DED, offered work permits and deportation protections since 2007, replacing another temporary reprieve program put in place during Liberia’s brutal civil war in the 1990s. The administration for the first time revealed Tuesday that only about 840 people nationally now have work permits through the program, suggesting the impact of its cancellation might be more limited than feared by local Liberian leaders.

Liberians in the metro, which hosts one of the largest West African enclaves in North America, mounted an active lobbying push in recent months to save the program. They argued its cancellation would deal a blow not only to the community but also to local nursing homes and other care facilities, where many Liberians work. Eight of the 10 members of Minnesota’s congressional delegation signed a letter to President Trump urging him to extend the program.

But a Department of Homeland Security official said it was time to wrap up the program, which the official said was intended to provide only a temporary reprieve.

I was surprised to learn of the program, but as I commented to Mrs. Fish, Minneapolis and Saint Paul are sanctuary cities; this is not going to play well here. I would remind Mr. Trump that the wild north country has never been a fan of his shenanigans.

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BlueGrl21  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:40:47pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The less Trump works, the better off we’ll all be.

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dangerman  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:42:20pm

re: #45 gwangung

the right considers “bipartisanship” a loss

And “compromise” is a dirty word, always to be avoided.

yes
and that is a position that only they hold

dems are willing to negotiate. they are not willing to give away the store. or compromise on a few very important issues.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:43:44pm

No public events, but pubic events are still on the table.

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Skip Intro  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:43:57pm

re: #47 BlueGrl21

The less Trump works, the better off we’ll all be.

It just means he’s watching more Fox. I’m not sure that’s a good thing.

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Belafon  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:47:50pm

re: #18 electrotek

Whoa, are you serious?!?!?!

Yep. I’ll try to get a picture tomorrow.

I got the highway wrong, it’s I-30.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:51:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:52:26pm
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lawhawk  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:55:11pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m sure a few others have pointed this out, but a bunch of other firms are declining to rep Trump because of conflicts of interest. They’re already representing others in Trumpworld from the oncoming Mueller indictments against even more people in the administration, up to and including Trump himself.

It’s only a matter of time.

Lawyers aren’t going to get sucked into this mess knowing their client wont listen to them, that it’d screw up recruitment for years to come, they’d lose current talent, and that everything Trump touches turns to crap.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:55:31pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:55:35pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

He should ask Larry Klayman. He’d take the job for sure.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:56:32pm

re: #56 Skip Intro

He should ask Larry Klayman. He’d take the job for sure.

Orly, too

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HappyWarrior  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:57:05pm

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Cowardly Rubio cries about this but not a word in defense of his constituent who his colleague insulted.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:59:27pm
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lawhawk  Mar 27, 2018 • 3:59:39pm

re: #56 Skip Intro

Not sure he’d want to.

And he is in no way shape or form capable of dealing with the swarm of charges that Trump will be facing.

He’s already found himself in trouble with several courts, including at the federal level.

In other words, just the right kind of person Trump wants representing him.

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wrenchwench  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:00:18pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:01:07pm

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dangerman  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:01:09pm

re: #54 lawhawk

I’m sure a few others have pointed this out, but a bunch of other firms are declining to rep Trump because of conflicts of interest. They’re already representing others in Trumpworld from the oncoming Mueller indictments against even more people in the administration, up to and including Trump himself.

It’s only a matter of time.

Lawyers aren’t going to get sucked into this mess knowing their client wont listen to them, that it’d screw up recruitment for years to come, they’d lose current talent, and that everything Trump touches turns to crap.

it can’t be good when your lawyers have to hire their own lawyers

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EPR-radar  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:01:33pm

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bolton being the Platonic Ideal of ‘Warmonger’ should also be enough to cause a ruckus in the media over his appointment as NatSec advisor.

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Skip Intro  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:01:41pm

re: #60 lawhawk

Not sure he’d want to.

In other words, just the right kind of person Trump wants representing him.

My point exactly. He’s perfect.

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dangerman  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:02:11pm

re: #63 dangerman

it can’t be good when your lawyers have to hire their own lawyers

and im waiting for the next step: the lawyer’s lawyers needing lawyers

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wrenchwench  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:02:55pm

re: #66 dangerman

and im waiting for the next step: the lawyer’s lawyers needing lawyers

It’s lawyers all the way down.

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EPR-radar  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:03:10pm

re: #37 KGxvi

Funny thing, both sides probably believe that about the other.

I see that pattern and still insist I’m correct and my political opponents are wrong/evil. Given that my opponents are Republicans, I’m not worried about being wrong, but the pattern is not an optimistic one.

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Skip Intro  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:03:35pm

re: #67 wrenchwench

It’s lawyers all the way down.

That’s how Trump’s run his business for 40 years.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:04:43pm
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wrenchwench  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:05:07pm

re: #69 Skip Intro

That’s how Trump’s run his business for 40 years.

He shoulda paid them better the first 39.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:05:31pm

re: #13 Belafon

re: #14 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

re: #15 Kragar

Thanks for the explanation. Trump’s scandals are going to break my brain. So much for draining the swamp. He’s made the swamp much muddier. Sigh.

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EPR-radar  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:07:36pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

That looks more like a paste-eater’s face to me, but these are difficult judgement calls.

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lawhawk  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:08:45pm

re: #66 dangerman

Lawyers all the way down.

We’re seeing it with Cohen and evil Milhouse, Jay Sekulow. Every last one in Trumpworld needs lawyers - even the lawyers.

Oh, and a reminder: Mueller has shown a willingness to use the crime fraud exception to pierce the attorney-client privilege. Since Trump’s shown willingness to have his lawyers do actions that may be criminal, Cohen’s on real thin ice.

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KGxvi  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:10:14pm

re: #54 lawhawk

I’m sure a few others have pointed this out, but a bunch of other firms are declining to rep Trump because of conflicts of interest. They’re already representing others in Trumpworld from the oncoming Mueller indictments against even more people in the administration, up to and including Trump himself.

It’s only a matter of time.

Lawyers aren’t going to get sucked into this mess knowing their client wont listen to them, that it’d screw up recruitment for years to come, they’d lose current talent, and that everything Trump touches turns to crap.

Someone on MSNBC either last night or this morning also mentioned that being the lawyer/law firm that “lost the presidency” wasn’t going to look good on the resume. And then there’s the very real possibility that Trump isn’t being forthright and honest with his attorneys, which makes it hard to defend a client - and in this kind of case can get you caught up as a defendant.

At least with Nixon, he was an attorney and knew how to STFU.

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BeachDem  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:10:38pm

They said it couldn’t be done, but they found someone more inexperienced than Hope Hicks.

But hey-she’s blonde!

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Skip Intro  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:12:15pm

re: #73 EPR-radar

That looks more like a paste-eater’s face to me, but these are difficult judgement calls.

I was thinking Trump used him to lick the lead paint off of the walls of his slum properties.

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KGxvi  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:12:19pm

re: #66 dangerman

and im waiting for the next step: the lawyer’s lawyers needing lawyers

Who will lawyer the lawyers?

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lawhawk  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:13:47pm

re: #76 BeachDem

Every last one in Trumpworld is inexperience and incapable of doing the jobs for which they’re selected. Trump picked them because he likes the way they look or that he’s hearing what he wants to hear.

Presidential advisers need to be the ones who can tell president unkind truths and not be fired for it.

Trump doesn’t want facts or truth. He wants to live in his fantasy world surrounded by his false reality. And he’s sucked the GOP and their followers in with them, thanks in large part to Fox and right wing media outlets that have divorced from facts and reality. They’ve weaponized derp.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:14:05pm

re: #76 BeachDem

They said it couldn’t be done, but they found someone more inexperienced than Hope Hicks.

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But hey-she’s blonde!

And Trump probably wants to fuck her.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:18:58pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

And Trump probably wants to fuck her.

He’s probably had his eye on her for a while.

/I’ll stop there

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BeachDem  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:20:58pm

re: #71 wrenchwench

He shoulda paid them better the first 39.

Stormy’s lawyer explained it pretty well on Lawrence last night (from 11:40-12:30)

msnbc.com

(the Stormy lawyer: Trump legal team made ‘catastrophic mistake’ segment)

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Skip Intro  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:21:56pm

re: #81 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

He’s probably had his eye on her for a while.

/I’ll stop there

“You remind me of my daughter”.

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freetoken  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:24:35pm

re: #52 Patricia Kayden

Tribe has the response of someone who isn’t really willing to yield the big stick of politics.

He sounds, and he has struck me this way before, as someone who is playing by old rules.

If Trump has shown political operatives anything it is this: the new rule of American politics is the weaponization of chaos under the guidance of modern-technologies’ ability to shape minds very strongly.

If accommodating the gun-fetishists would have worked it would have done so by now.

How many more decades have to go by before it is evident that deep changes in society have forced this issue?

Before the Civil War, the debate over slavery raged for decades, even from the writing of the Constitution.

Those who wanted to accommodate slave-holders gave ground but guess what, that did not stop slavery.

We need bigger steps, and bolder steps, I am convinced, today about guns and quite a few things.

Tribe will argue that the Constitution already allows for laws about guns but that is clearly not the point.

The point is that the gun-fetishists have already defeated over and over steps that have to be taken.

I am not concerned about a piece of paper.

It is not the literal, paper, Constitution which is the problem.

It is the very large, by the millions, of increasingly fanatical atavists who have dug their heels in so deeply that they are now openly wanting to make our schools into war zones.

This is the problem.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:25:02pm

re: #57 Backwoods_Sleuth

Orly, too

It just may come to Trump being defended by America’s two worst lawyers. Sad!

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BeachDem  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:25:40pm

re: #83 Skip Intro

“You remind me of my daughter”.

I’ll bet Tomi Lahren is crying, “I coulda been a contendah—I have the same hairdo…and I actually went to college and everything!!”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:28:22pm

re: #86 BeachDem

I’ll bet Tomi Lahren is crying, “I coulda been a contendah—I have the same hairdo…and I actually went to college and everything!!”

Yeah, but that picture of her with her gun down her skirt was too little, too late. She shoulda led with that.

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ipsos  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:28:25pm

re: #76 BeachDem

But the Teen Vogue logo behind her!

How nicely subversive…

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Skip Intro  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:29:32pm

re: #86 BeachDem

I’ll bet Tomi Lahren is crying, “I coulda been a contendah—I have the same hairdo…and I actually went to college and everything!!”

Tomi is a little, uh, flat where it counts. Not Trumpy’s style at all.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:30:36pm

re: #89 Skip Intro

Tomi is a little, uh, flat where it counts. Not Trumpy’s style at all.

Well, we know he’s got no issues with natural vs unnatural.

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wrenchwench  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:32:20pm

Vietnam Cowboys

…wake up in the White House,
zip up your pants and get it together…

It’s there, not even halfway through.

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BeachDem  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:34:22pm

I’m guessing Sarah Huckabee’s days in front of the camera are going to come to a crashing halt now that there’s a little sunshine in the press office.

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Alephnaught  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:35:25pm

re: #12 Patricia Kayden

Hopefully, Rachel can break all that down into simple terminology. Some of this is so complex that regular folks (like me) can’t understand it completely so it goes right over our heads. Thankfully, it won’t go over Mueller’s head or the first rate lawyers he has conducting an investigation into Trump and Russia.

It’s actually quite simple when you look at it, and it goes like this:

[RICH RIGHT WING TOSSER (RRWT) walks into main office of DODGY ANALYTICS (DA).]
RRWT: Hey, you lot in DODGY ANALYTICS! Do you want to help me do this *special job* I need to do in [insert country here], only I need to *wink wink* do it for less than $[under whatever the election law allows in your quaint country]?
DA Rep: Sounds interesting! Let’s talk!
RRWT: Cool. Oh, and by the way, we want to invest 15 million dollars in your company.
DA Rep: Oh, nice! Thanks! Anyway, that *special job* you were talking about… *wink wink*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:36:05pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:37:46pm
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wheat-dogg  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:39:06pm

re: #92 BeachDem

I’m guessing Sarah Huckabee’s days in front of the camera are going to come to a crashing halt now that there’s a little sunshine in the press office.

You reckon the blonde Disney star will be the new more photogenic press spox?

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:40:33pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I didn’t have a fever (well — probably not) but I did have a cough that lasted over a month, went away for 2 weeks, and then returned!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:40:45pm

re: #96 wheat-dogg

You reckon the blonde Disney star will be the new more photogenic press spox?

After all, it’s probably not possible to impart LESS information than Sanders.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:45:45pm

re: #98 Blind Frog Belly White

After all, it’s probably not possible to impart LESS information than Sanders.

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BeachDem  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:46:03pm

re: #98 Blind Frog Belly White

After all, it’s probably not possible to impart LESS information than Sanders.

It’s weird—that CNN story talks about her going to college and being a White House intern etc., but there’s no mention of any of that on her wiki page or her website (although, the google page says she went to Clairmont McKenna)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:46:33pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She understands her job very well: Lie her ass off and try not to make things worse. On no account contradict the President or tell the truth.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:50:36pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:57:49pm

re: #46 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

So, this just appeared in my Facebook feed:

startribune.com

I was surprised to learn of the program, but as I commented to Mrs. Fish, Minneapolis and Saint Paul are sanctuary cities; this is not going to play well here. I would remind Mr. Trump that the wild north country has never been a fan of his shenanigans.

I am sure you have come to realize, Trump doesn’t care about immigration issues, so he doesn’t care what The Twin Cities thinks…buncha damn liberals up there anyway!

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wheat-dogg  Mar 27, 2018 • 4:57:53pm

re: #100 BeachDem

It’s weird—that CNN story talks about her going to college and being a White House intern etc., but there’s no mention of any of that on her wiki page or her website (although, the google page says she went to Clairmont McKenna)

The alma mater of both David Daleiden and Rage Furby, if memory serves.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:00:51pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:02:42pm

Official

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ObserverArt  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:02:43pm

re: #47 BlueGrl21

The less Trump works, the better off we’ll all be.

Problem is he is like the Queen Ant in a colony of Carpenter Ants.

He just sits in his nest and is fed by his supporters while his workers are out chewing on all the supports of this country and weakening the structure.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:03:48pm
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wheat-dogg  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:05:13pm

re: #106 Stanley Sea

Official

SOP. China reports after the fact something has happened, even though alert observers suspected Kim was in town. Security in the capital was over the top, which only happens when a national leader comes to town. Plus, an armored train was kinda the tip-off.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:05:52pm

Time to teach young (Chinese) minds. BBL

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VegasGolfer  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:06:37pm

Why does SHS keep dressing up like a strung out overweight Wednesday Addams?
I loved all the characters in the Addams Family show, and SHS is ruining it for me.

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ObserverArt  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:08:28pm

re: #81 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

He’s probably had his eye on her for a while.

/I’ll stop there

She looks like Ivanka…probably smart and nice too…like Ivanka.

Trump: Why can’t I just have Ivanka??? /

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:08:46pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Major  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:11:51pm
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Single-handed sailor  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:13:02pm

re: #76 BeachDem

They said it couldn’t be done, but they found someone more inexperienced than Hope Hicks.

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But hey-she’s blonde!

She reminds Trump of Ivanka.

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Sea Mexican!  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:14:10pm

re: #83 Skip Intro

“You remind me of my daughter”.

I need a shower.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:16:49pm

re: #111 VegasGolfer

Why does SHS keep dressing up like a strung out overweight Wednesday Addams?
I loved all the characters in the Addams Family show, and SHS is ruining it for me.

She’s certainly full of woe.

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The Major  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:17:10pm

re: #112 ObserverArt

She looks like Ivanka…probably smart and nice too…like Ivanka.

Trump: Why can’t I just have Ivanka??? /

Incest is best when kept in the family….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:17:27pm
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VegasGolfer  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:17:48pm

re: #117 Blind Frog Belly White

She’s certainly full of woe.

she’s full of something…

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Sea Mexican!  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:19:08pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:19:20pm

sigh…….

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lawhawk  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:19:44pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:20:03pm

re: #115 Single-handed sailor

She reminds Trump of Ivanka.

There’s some extra flinching involved when you recall that Ivanka’s look is the end point of cosmetic alteration.

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The Major  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:20:53pm

re: #74 lawhawk

We’re seeing it with Cohen and evil Milhouse, Jay Sekulow. Every last one in Trumpworld needs lawyers - even the lawyers

Sekulow - he of the ACLJ….

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The Major  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:22:15pm

re: #123 lawhawk

Makes me wonder if this was a joke or the real deal…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:22:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:24:13pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:24:38pm

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

Blame it on a previous administration. Way to go Bolton. /

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The Major  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:24:39pm

re: #113 GlutenFreeJesus

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The Major  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:26:40pm

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:28:00pm

re: #131 The Major

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They said whiskey. If they were Russians, they would have said vodka.

/half

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:29:39pm
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MsJ  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:31:48pm

re: #116 Sea Mexican!

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The Major  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:32:13pm

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:32:54pm

re: #40 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

I typed that, went to the gym, and realized after. Thanks.

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Sea Mexican!  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:33:24pm

re: #132 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

They said whiskey. If they were Russians, they would have said vodka.

/half

To be sure, ask if he recommends the Palo Viejo brand of whiskey. :P

// This is an excellent way to flush out posers. :) :P

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:34:28pm

re: #134 MsJ

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lawhawk  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:34:28pm

re: #135 The Major

18 USC 1001 is a felony punishable by up to 5 years in prison.

The only way you get no time is if you’re flipping on people much higher in the food chain than you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:36:15pm

re: #139 lawhawk

18 USC 1001 is a felony punishable by up to 5 years in prison.

The only way you get no time is if you’re flipping on people much higher in the food chain than you.

from what I can tell, van der Zwann has flipped on Manafort and Gates, and possibly others

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:36:30pm

Interesting post by Ezra Klein about Charles Murray, Sam Harris, and the fact that Murray’s ideas aren’t so much ‘forbidden scholarship’ as they are a well-worn argument against racial equality going back 4 centuries.

But what really strikes me about Murray and his work is not just that it’s racist, and not just that Murray doesn’t realize that it’s racist, but just that it’s not very good work.

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The Major  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:37:56pm

Color me skeptical on what may/not be a bombshell….

MintPress: FBI under new scrutiny after Pulse Gunman’s father revealed as FBI Informant

ORLANDO, FLORIDA — New court filings in the legal case against Noor Salman, the widow of Pulse Nightclub shooter Omar Mateen, have revealed that the gunman’s father was a confidential FBI informant for over a decade, up until the very same month that the deadly shooting took place. The stunning revelation has again placed the role of FBI in domestic terror attacks under scrutiny, especially after the recent school shooting in Parkland where the FBI repeatedly ignored dozens of warnings about the shooter prior to the tragedy.

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MsJ  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:38:23pm

re: #121 Sea Mexican!

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whitebeach  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:38:27pm

OT, but a somewhat bizarre experience related to LGF. Two or three days ago, several zards were discussing their communications, or more often lack of communication, with their exes. This led me, for the first time I can remember, to google my ex-wife, with whom I hadn’t exchanged a word since our divorce became final more than twenty-five years ago. One of the first results was her obituary, from a couple of years back. Neither her family members nor my friends in our old town had told me.

It was, and is, a very strange feeling. We were both prideful, maybe too much so, but even if you never expect to speak with a former lover again, when the final gun sounds, you still wish that the game could go on a little longer.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:41:25pm

re: #144 whitebeach

OT, but a somewhat bizarre experience related to LGF. Two or three days ago, several zards were discussing their communications, or more often lack of communication, with their exes. This led me, for the first time I can remember, to google my ex-wife, with whom I hadn’t exchanged a word since our divorce became final more than twenty-five years ago. One of the first results was her obituary, from a couple of years back. Neither her family members nor my friends in our old town had told me.

It was, and is, a very strange feeling. We were both prideful, maybe too much so, but even if you never expect to speak with a former lover again, when the final gun sounds, you still wish that the game could go on a little longer.

Oof, “strange feeling” is exactly the words I would use to describe that. I would have been a little put out that nobody told me, to be honest. I get that exes are often excoriated amongst the other family, but still, it seems like common courtesy to contact someone who was, at one point, a major part of the deceased’s life. Unless, that is, said person is a raging psychopath, but you hang out with us so you can’t be that bad.

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The Major  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:42:19pm

re: #139 lawhawk

18 USC 1001 is a felony punishable by up to 5 years in prison.

You know that, and I know that. That’s why I have to remind some folks that if a Fed flashes a badge at you, your course of actions are (1) STFU and (2) Lawyer up - even if you haven’t done anything wrong.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:43:27pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:44:03pm
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ObserverArt  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:45:09pm

re: #142 The Major

Color me skeptical on what may/not be a bombshell….

MintPress: FBI under new scrutiny after Pulse Gunman’s father revealed as FBI Informant

Color? That would be dipped in it.

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MsJ  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:45:11pm

re: #138 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:45:24pm

re: #141 Blind Frog Belly White

Interesting post by Ezra Klein about Charles Murray, Sam Harris, and the fact that Murray’s ideas aren’t so much ‘forbidden scholarship’ as they are a well-worn argument against racial equality going back 4 centuries.

But what really strikes me about Murray and his work is not just that it’s racist, and not just that Murray doesn’t realize that it’s racist, but just that it’s not very good work.

He’s not just a racist; he’s also a misogynist. I don’t recall the name of the book but he took the position that if a woman had a child out of wedlock, it was her problem alone. Forget about the father. Makes you wonder what experiences he or a member of his family had.

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The Major  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:45:58pm

re: #144 whitebeach

It was, and is, a very strange feeling. We were both prideful, maybe too much so, but even if you never expect to speak with a former lover again, when the final gun sounds, you still wish that the game could go on a little longer.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:46:10pm
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MsJ  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:46:20pm

re: #139 lawhawk

18 USC 1001 is a felony punishable by up to 5 years in prison.

The only way you get no time is if you’re flipping on people much higher in the food chain than you.

If we don’t see consequences from any of these fuckers, we have no system of justice. Period.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:47:51pm
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The Major  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:48:18pm

re: #145 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Unless, that is, said person is a raging psychopath, but you hang out with us so you can’t be that bad.

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BlueGrl21  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:49:12pm

On topic…

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:49:56pm

re: #157 BlueGrl21

Oh so true.

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MsJ  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:49:56pm

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The Major  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:50:50pm

re: #149 ObserverArt

Color? That would be dipped in it.

I’ve subscribed to their news feed, and they definitely have the “Purity Pony” stench around them…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:51:31pm

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

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whitebeach  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:51:42pm

re: #152 The Major

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Stanley Sea  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:54:26pm

re: #144 whitebeach

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:54:51pm
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MsJ  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:56:22pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

GLWT. Between trump and Bolton there won’t be d peace or stability.

It’s honestly terrifying.

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ObserverArt  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:57:03pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Bolton is probably fuming right now hearing that. And already in Trump’s ear too I bet. Or, getting ready to after this current “executive timeout.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:57:09pm
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KingKenrod  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:58:13pm

re: #141 Blind Frog Belly White

Interesting post by Ezra Klein about Charles Murray, Sam Harris, and the fact that Murray’s ideas aren’t so much ‘forbidden scholarship’ as they are a well-worn argument against racial equality going back 4 centuries.

But what really strikes me about Murray and his work is not just that it’s racist, and not just that Murray doesn’t realize that it’s racist, but just that it’s not very good work.

Murray is hopeless, he’s spent his entire career in the pocket of right-wing orgs, arguing that people aren’t worth public investments. He will never be anything different. I still hold out some hope for Harris. He has a couple of gigantic blind spots on Islam and progressive activism, but he still seems capable of learning.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:59:13pm
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whitebeach  Mar 27, 2018 • 5:59:56pm

re: #163 Stanley Sea

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:00:27pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:00:34pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:04:14pm

re: #168 KingKenrod

Murray is hopeless, he’s spent his entire career in the pocket of right-wing orgs, arguing that people aren’t worth public investments. He will never be anything different. I still hold out some hope for Harris. He has a couple of gigantic blind spots on Islam and progressive activism, but he still seems capable of learning.

Murray starts from the assumption that The Market, Meriticracy, etc. all work how he wants to believe they work, and that any deviation from letting The Market work as it will is a bad thing that will produce bad results.

But I was especially taken by a paragraph Ezra quoted from Murray:

MURRAY: If you go back to some of my earliest published stuff on affirmative action — you can go back to 1994, when I did an article for the New Republic in which I was talking about the mismatch problem — a lot of that is, how would I feel if I were a black kid my age going into college and everybody thought I was there because I was an affirmative action kid? I would hate that. I would really hate it. How would I feel if, on the job, I knew that everyone assumed that I got that job because of affirmative action? I would hate that. And I would try to do my best to prove them wrong, but I find that morally repugnant.

So, we can’t address systemic racism, because people will think black people didn’t earn their way, and those black people would hate that? Maybe the problem isn’t the black people in this scenario. Pretty sure Murray never considered that.

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Scout  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:06:32pm
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MsJ  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:14:06pm

re: #174 Scout

Would that this were accurate:

Jared Kushner’s Month Goes from Bad to Weeping Inconsolably in a Janitor’s Closet

What’s interesting about that Yahoo news story is that Yahoo used to be Republican and trump central.

Not no more.

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dangerman  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:14:46pm

re: #111 VegasGolfer

Why does SHS keep dressing up like a strung out overweight Wednesday Addams?
I loved all the characters in the Addams Family show, and SHS is ruining it for me.

gomez is/was a lawyer

i keep hoping….

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:15:41pm

re: #175 MsJ

What’s interesting about that Yahoo news story is that Yahoo used to be Republican and trump central.

Not no more.

It’s a Vanity Fair article

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:16:06pm

Holy shit Gus logged into LGF at like 1 a.m. this morning! Whoa!

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:17:22pm

re: #144 whitebeach

OT, but a somewhat bizarre experience related to LGF. Two or three days ago, several zards were discussing their communications, or more often lack of communication, with their exes. This led me, for the first time I can remember, to google my ex-wife, with whom I hadn’t exchanged a word since our divorce became final more than twenty-five years ago. One of the first results was her obituary, from a couple of years back. Neither her family members nor my friends in our old town had told me.

It was, and is, a very strange feeling. We were both prideful, maybe too much so, but even if you never expect to speak with a former lover again, when the final gun sounds, you still wish that the game could go on a little longer.

I was involved in that conversation here. You caused me to look up my ex-wife (which I haven’t done before, because meh).

That yielded the obituary for her mother from three years ago. (Of note, her mother was the only person in my ex-wife’s family who still liked me after the divorce.)

No one notified me (for obvious reasons).

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MsJ  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:17:24pm

re: #177 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

It’s a Vanity Fair article

The link is Yahoo.

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TedStriker  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:17:38pm

Watched the first two episodes of the continuation of Roseanne; so far, aside from the political stuff in the first episode (which did have some plot purpose between Roseanne and Jackie), it feels like the series never really left, just that everyone’s gotten twenty years older, with all of the stuff that goes with such a passage of time. After the exposition of the first episode bringing the Connors well into the 21st century, the second episode felt like classic Roseanne to me.

As long as Roseanne, the producers, and ABC let the writers do their thing without unneeded interference, like Joss Whedon and Chuck Lorre (and others not as famous) were able to do when they were writing for the original run, I think it might just be really good.

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MsJ  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:18:48pm

re: #180 MsJ

The link is Yahoo.

More important to my initial comment, the comments are Yahoo.

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:19:01pm
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MsJ  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:19:23pm

re: #181 TedStriker

I’m taking a pass.

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whitebeach  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:24:31pm

re: #183 teleskiguy

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Someone just straight up fired up their lawnmower near me. Someone is mowing their lawn in the mountains of Colorado at the end of March. This shit ain’t right.
8:19 PM - Mar 27, 2018

Damn, ski, I just realized that this is the first time I’ve ever put the words “mountains of Colorado” and “lawnmower” in the same thought.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:24:37pm

re: #181 TedStriker

Back in the day, I used to love Roseanne in general but never watched the show. Now that she’s an ardent Trump supporter, I no longer like her so I’ll continue to skip her show.

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:25:59pm

re: #185 whitebeach

Damn, ski, I just realized that this is the first time I’ve ever put the words “mountains of Colorado” and “lawnmower” in the same thought.

Lawns piss me off. They use too much precious water. And don’t get me started on the golf courses in the mountains of Colorado.

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Kragar  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:26:12pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:26:49pm

re: #187 teleskiguy

Lawns piss me off. They use too much precious water. And don’t get me started on the golf courses in the mountains of Colorado.

This is where it’s nice to be in the Midwest, where water sits literal feet beneath the ground in abundance.

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:27:27pm

There’s supposed to be snow on the ground! At the ski area, certain slope aspects are already going bare. I haz a sad.

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dangerman  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:28:38pm

re: #187 teleskiguy

Lawns piss me off. They use too much precious water. And don’t get me started on the golf courses in the mountains of Colorado.

i have a reverse problem
an acre
no sprinklers / never water
and in season (march to november) im cutting 1-2 inches every week

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KingKenrod  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:28:41pm

re: #181 TedStriker

Apart from Roseanne (who is barely tolerable), the rest of the cast is A+. The first episodes are pretty good. I never watched it before.

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lawhawk  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:29:51pm

Podhoretz is huffing glue today…

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whitebeach  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:30:51pm

re: #189 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

This is where it’s nice to be in the Midwest, where water sits literal feet beneath the ground in abundance.

As opposed to Louisiana, where your feet tend to sit literally beneath the water.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:31:01pm
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EPR-radar  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:32:50pm

re: #168 KingKenrod

Murray is hopeless, he’s spent his entire career in the pocket of right-wing orgs, arguing that people aren’t worth public investments. He will never be anything different. I still hold out some hope for Harris. He has a couple of gigantic blind spots on Islam and progressive activism, but he still seems capable of learning.

Reading and critiquing The Bell Curve is a good exercise in one’s political education. Other than that, Murray is completely useless.

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gocart mozart  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:33:19pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:33:58pm

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So, when does he weigh in on the foot-dragging by the White House for documents related to Trump and Russia?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:35:30pm

re: #197 gocart mozart

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OFFS and you call Muslims overly sensitive.

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TedStriker  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:36:20pm

re: #184 MsJ

re: #186 Patricia Kayden

re: #192 KingKenrod

To each their own, I suppose.

I was definitely cringing going in due to the advance buzz, but aside from the first few minutes and a scene between Roseanne and Jackie toward the end of the first episode (and even that scene made sense in the historical context of their relationship as sisters), I was surprised; as long as the writing gets/stays strong, this may just be one of the few times in recent TV/movie history that a reboot/continuation actually doesn’t suck.

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Targetpractice  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:36:51pm

re: #197 gocart mozart

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“Draw pictures of Mohammad to piss off Muslims because they need to get over their religious beliefs and be respectful of free expression, BUT DON’T YOU DARE DISRESPECT OUR RELIGION!!!!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:38:10pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:39:16pm

re: #197 gocart mozart

Bill Donahue is just another religious lunatic. I hadn’t realized his crackpot organization was still around until the other day.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:41:23pm

re: #180 MsJ

The link is Yahoo.

And it’s a Vanity Fair article, shared in the Yahoo Lifestyle section.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:43:26pm

re: #202 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And people say the Victorians were prudes. Pshaw, I say.

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ObserverArt  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:44:13pm

re: #187 teleskiguy

Lawns piss me off. They use too much precious water. And don’t get me started on the golf courses in the mountains of Colorado.

I never water my lawn. Luckily anymore we get too much rain here in Ohio and it hasn’t been all that dry in the heat of summer. I hate seeing lawn sprinklers around these parts. I say let nature dictate the landscape, it all fits in better that way.

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ObserverArt  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:46:45pm

re: #193 lawhawk

Podhoretz is huffing glue today…

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He drives me crazy. He is so into the game that all reality of the political results on actual people matters not. So much of that going on today.

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EPR-radar  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:47:11pm

re: #187 teleskiguy

Lawns piss me off. They use too much precious water. And don’t get me started on the golf courses in the mountains of Colorado.

These are real examples of crimes against nature, as opposed to RWNJs obsessing about gay people.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:48:13pm
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calochortus  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:48:59pm

re: #189 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

This is where it’s nice to be in the Midwest, where water sits literal feet beneath the ground in abundance.

If that’s the Ogallala aquifer to which you refer, it is being depleted at an alarming rate and could be pumped dry in 50 years.
Just sayin’.

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Jay C  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:49:38pm

re: #205 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And people say the Victorians were prudes. Pshaw, I say.

It’s the tin whistle that really signals the depravity…..

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:50:02pm

re: #210 calochortus

If that’s the Ogallala aquifer to which you refer, it is being depleted at an alarming rate and could be pumped dry in 50 years.
Just sayin’.

I’m not at all surprised. People seem to think that water is just magically everywhere. Just dig a well, all the water you’ll ever need, right at your fingertips!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:50:40pm

Aaaaannnndddd…
S.E. Cupp & the NY Daily News decide to make it about Hillary…

Just

Fucking

Typical

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Targetpractice  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:52:27pm

re: #213 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Aaaaannnndddd…
S.E. Cupp & the NY Daily News decide to make it about Hillary…

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Just

Fucking

Typical

Hillary wasn’t chained to Bill by a pre-nup.

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ObserverArt  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:52:54pm

I bet you sometime in the last year S.E. Cupp has written an article or blabbed on TV that Hillary should move on, her time is up.

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EPR-radar  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:52:58pm

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s a damn shame the FBI can’t tell these House GOP goons to fuck off with their Fox News inspired witch hunts.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:52:59pm

re: #213 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Aaaaannnndddd…
S.E. Cupp & the NY Daily News decide to make it about Hillary…

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Just

Fucking

Typical

Had to share this reply

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Skip Intro  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:53:28pm

re: #213 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Aaaaannnndddd…
S.E. Cupp & the NY Daily News decide to make it about Hillary…

[Embedded content]

Just

Fucking

Typical

Just in time for the 2018 season opener on her emails.

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:54:41pm

re: #213 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I honestly don’t know who she voted for, I’m just pulling shit out of my ass. However, she is not a vociferous anti-Trump voice. Hell, I’ve never read or seen any TV appearances of her castigating Fuckface Von Clownstick, ever.

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EPR-radar  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:55:18pm

re: #213 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

IIRC SE Cupp is an ‘atheist’ who really wants to believe, which makes her a bit more dotty than most conservatives her age.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:55:25pm

re: #218 Skip Intro

Just in time for the 2018 2nd Quarter season opener on her emails.

FTFY

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:57:38pm

re: #183 teleskiguy

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Skip Intro  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:58:31pm

re: #221 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

FTFY

Not to ignore Benghazi Bowl XV, coming this fall to your local GOP Network.

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:58:47pm

re: #222 teleskiguy

OK, the lawnmower has stopped.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 6:59:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:01:44pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:02:16pm

re: #220 EPR-radar

IIRC SE Cupp is an ‘atheist’ who really wants to believe, which makes her a bit more dotty than most conservatives her age.

Sip E Cupp is a Libertarian media opinion presenter.
I don’t believe any other qualifiers are needed to demonstrate how worthless anything she states is.

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whitebeach  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:05:37pm

re: #224 teleskiguy

OK, the lawnmower has stopped.

When the cops knock on your door and ask about the ski pole protruding from the lawnmower operator’s chest, just tell ‘em you’ve been on LGF all night. We’ll back you.

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EPR-radar  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:06:16pm

re: #227 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Sip E Cupp is a Libertarian media opinion presenter.
I don’t believe any other qualifiers are needed to demonstrate how worthless anything she states is.

Capital-L Libertarian is a show stopper for me. It saves time, except when I need to point and laugh at someone’s ridiculous and evil political positions.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:08:45pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:09:51pm

re: #183 teleskiguy

For whatever it’s worth, my lawn’s still winter dormant. While I am a few thousand feet lower in altitude than you (maybe … we’re near four thousand here in W. Nebr.), being a few miles north makes a difference (Colorado is eighty miles south from me).

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:16:32pm

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, I was just about to share that with everyone

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:16:45pm

re: #231 Anymouse 🌹

Most, if not all, lawns around my twenty are still winter dormant (read: brown) so I’m leaning towards some kind of psychological break.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:17:42pm

re: #206 ObserverArt

I never water my lawn. Luckily anymore we get too much rain here in Ohio and it hasn’t been all that dry in the heat of summer. I hate seeing lawn sprinklers around these parts. I say let nature dictate the landscape, it all fits in better that way.

I never water my lawn either, though many of my neighbours (and the church across the street and the park kitty-corner from my house) all have irrigation systems. My neighbour to the north xeroscaped his yard (it is now all pebbles and native plants to the short grass prairie).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:17:44pm

re: #232 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

LOL, I was just about to share that with everyone

the dog does like to pose!

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:19:53pm

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So the GOP is focusing on investigating the FBI instead of Russian interference? Alrighty then.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:20:16pm

re: #233 teleskiguy

Most, if not all, lawns around my twenty are still winter dormant (read: brown) so I’m leaning towards some kind of psychological break.

My neighbors all do this as soon as their lawns are cleared of snow (in fact, come to mention it, I’m surprised I’ve not heard any lawnmowers in my neighborhood as the snow has been receding). Many of the residents here in town are retired folk who sit around at home all day with their dogs. I think getting out on the lawn mower gives them hope for the change of spring, getting out of the house instead of being snowbound.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:20:30pm

re: #210 calochortus

If that’s the Ogallala aquifer to which you refer, it is being depleted at an alarming rate and could be pumped dry in 50 years.
Just sayin’.

The south end (Texas, Oklahoma, and southern Kansas) is depleted, and may replenish in four hundred years or so.

The north half (Nebraska and South Dakota) is heavily regulated (our irrigation systems here have water meters on them). Our end of the Aquifer is actually higher than average. (We can see that here where I live: The valley the North Platte River flows through actually cuts below the Aquifer, thus the level of the river is the level of water in the Aquifer. I can also see it when I test the village wells for drawdown.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:22:14pm

re: #214 Targetpractice

Hillary wasn’t chained to Bill by a pre-nup.

I thought conservatives were about “the sanctity of marriage” and how those in difficulty should do everything they can to “work it out?” (Oh right, IOKIYAR)

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gocart mozart  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:22:23pm

Fucking Twitter, I just got a 12 hour time out. Someone must have been searching for something in my feed for anything they could report and this was found to be wishing harm on someone.

Ed Mix @the_edwin_mix
@CovfefeAR15 Do you know what will really piss off the libs? Drinking bleach.
11:01 AM - 27 Mar 2018

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:24:04pm

re: #240 gocart mozart

You’re pretty good at finding the bleeding edge of what the brain trust at Twitter HQ deems inappropriate. You’ve been suspended once or twice, no?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:24:28pm

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:24:54pm

re: #215 ObserverArt

I bet you sometime in the last year S.E. Cupp has written an article or blabbed on TV that Hillary should move on, her time is up.

She’s also opined (as an alleged atheist) that atheists would find it worthwhile to pray.

Her glasses don’t make her intelligent. Her party doesn’t want atheists in it (as David Silverman found at CPAC): that makes her a useful idiot.

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calochortus  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:25:16pm

re: #238 Anymouse 🌹

Good to know. I guess you’ll eventually have to send bottled water to the southern end states that are all about individual freedumbs to grab water.

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:25:28pm

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes! This made me belly laugh!!!

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:27:59pm

re: #244 calochortus

Good to know. I guess you’ll eventually have to send bottled water to the southern end states that are all about individual freedumbs to grab water.

Had you not heard? Here in California we water our lawns with bottled water and the tears of ICE agents.

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Sea Mexican!  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:28:11pm

Don’t know if this has been posted:

How Trump favored Texas over Puerto Rico

No two hurricanes are alike, and Harvey and Maria were vastly different storms that struck areas with vastly different financial, geographic and political situations. But a comparison of government statistics relating to the two recovery efforts strongly supports the views of disaster-recovery experts that FEMA and the Trump administration exerted a faster, and initially greater, effort in Texas, even though the damage in Puerto Rico exceeded that in Houston.

Within six days of Hurricane Harvey, U.S. Northern Command had deployed 73 helicopters over Houston, which are critical for saving victims and delivering emergency supplies. It took at least three weeks after Maria before it had more than 70 helicopters flying above Puerto Rico.

Nine days after the respective hurricanes, FEMA had approved $141.8 million in individual assistance to Harvey victims, versus just $6.2 million for Maria victims.

During the first nine days after Harvey, FEMA provided 5.1 million meals, 4.5 million liters of water and over 20,000 tarps to Houston; but in the same period, it delivered just 1.6 million meals, 2.8 million liters of water and roughly 5,000 tarps to Puerto Rico.

Nine days after Harvey, the federal government had 30,000 personnel in the Houston region, compared with 10,000 at the same point after Maria.

It took just 10 days for FEMA to approve permanent disaster work for Texas, compared with 43 days for Puerto Rico.

Seventy-eight days after each hurricane, FEMA had approved 39 percent of federal applications for relief from victims of Harvey, versus 28 percent for Maria.

Those imbalances track with another one: the attention of President Donald Trump. In public, Trump appeared much more concerned with the victims of Harvey than Maria. He visited Houston twice during the first eight days after the hurricane, but didn’t visit Puerto Rico for 13 days. In the first week after the disasters, Trump sent three times as many tweets about Harvey as Maria — 24 about the plight of Texas and eight about Puerto Rico, including a series of comments about Puerto Rico’s debt level and quality of infrastructure that local officials considered insulting and enraging while lives were still in jeopardy.

politico.com

This is infuriating. Ok, so some of the data are without the proper context (instead of absolutes, I would have preferred to see a per thousands or per millions comparisons), and others are to be expected (mobilizing helicopters is a tough challenge to an island). The discrepancies on money spent, and wait time are insulting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:29:05pm

re: #245 teleskiguy

Yes! This made me belly laugh!!!

all of the replies to Sam “Proud Masculine Male” Torres are solid gold.

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calochortus  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:29:39pm

re: #246 Unshaken Defiance

Had you not heard? Here in California we water our lawns with bottled water and the tears of ICE agents.

Tears are too salty, and anyway we haven’t had a lawn in decades. ;)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:30:23pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:30:39pm

re: #243 Anymouse 🌹

She’s also opined (as an alleged atheist) that atheists would find it worthwhile to pray.

Her glasses don’t make her intelligent. Her party doesn’t want atheists in it (as David Silverman found at CPAC): that makes her a useful idiot.

For the first few years of her “news analyst” appearances I was relatively sure her overly stylish frames had no lenses in them.

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Belafon  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:31:01pm

Scott Pruitt’s attempt to wreck the EPA:

The Environmental Protection Agency is considering a major change to the way it assesses scientific work, a move that would severely restrict the research available to it when writing environmental regulations.

Under the proposed policy, the agency would no longer consider scientific research unless the underlying raw data can be made public for other scientists and industry groups to examine. As a result, regulators crafting future rules would quite likely find themselves restricted from using some of the most consequential environmental research of recent decades, such as studies linking air pollution to premature deaths or work that measures human exposure to pesticides and other chemicals.

The issue with this is that a lot of EPA studies are based on human medical records, you know, stuff that is required to be private by other laws.

h/t Daily Kos

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Stanley Sea  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:32:55pm

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

Every time I see that pic, I say to myself Tammy has no ass.

Oh well

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:34:00pm

re: #253 Stanley Sea

Every time I see that pic, I say to myself Tammy has no ass.

Oh well

She’s got a pretty face, in my subjective opinion. Too bad there’s no brain under that blonde hair of hers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:35:40pm
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Targetpractice  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:35:57pm

re: #252 Belafon

Scott Pruitt’s attempt to wreck the EPA:

The issue with this is that a lot of EPA studies are based on human medical records, you know, stuff that is required to be private by other laws.

h/t Daily Kos

The operative words being “for other scientists and industry groups to examine.” In other words, Pruitt is trying to not only make it harder for the EPA to conduct research, but easier for industry-funded hitmen to attack the integrity of what research is conducted.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:36:14pm

Shade

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Skip Intro  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:37:00pm

re: #254 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Her hair isn’t really blonde. She just plays a blonde on Fox because it attracts the geezers.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:37:07pm

re: #254 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

She’s got a pretty face, in my subjective opinion. Too bad there’s no brain under that blonde hair of hers.

Hair extensions.

Beauty up front today has no relation to the morning wake up reality.

#sad

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:37:51pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Damn. That was an EPIC thread. I kinda figured that’s what he was doing when I read the original tweet. But the fact that they reacted exactly as he expected… I mean, dude. He orchestrated that down to a T. 13/10.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:38:22pm

re: #257 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Shade

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She looks exactly like Ivanka in that clip.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:38:44pm

re: #258 Skip Intro

re: #259 Stanley Sea

Ah, a fake. Well, that’s why I’m glad I have a Mrs. Fish with natural curly red hair, an actual body, and a completely functional (if sometimes somewhat forgetful) brain.

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Targetpractice  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:39:19pm

re: #239 Anymouse 🌹

I thought conservatives were about “the sanctity of marriage” and how those in difficulty should do everything they can to “work it out?” (Oh right, IOKIYAR)

They are…when a Dem is involved. Then they’re all broken up about what the wife is going through and how hubby needs his ass kicked to the curb. But if a Republican is involved, then the matter is purely private and we shouldn’t be getting involved in what should be solely between the couple.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:39:31pm

LOL … I can relate …

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calochortus  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:41:39pm

re: #259 Stanley Sea

Hair extensions.

Beauty up front today has no relation to the morning wake up reality.

#sad

I’m too lazy to dye my whitening hair (when you were a light blonde, your hair doesn’t exactly gray,) have never worn much make-up and wear practically none now. What you see what I wake up is frighteningly similar to later in the day. Mr. C. says he thinks I’m beautiful. I think I’ll keep him. It’s certainly easier than doing all that work on my appearance.

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Belafon  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:42:45pm

re: #264 Anymouse 🌹

LOL … I can relate …

[Embedded content]

So was I. That made me laugh really loud.

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whitebeach  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:43:36pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I grew up in a place that, to this day, fucking worships firearms. My dad, a competition shooter himself, taught me to use weapons from childhood although, to my complaints of injustice, didn’t allow me to have my own gun until I was twelve. Over the years I have gone in small steps from the notion that we didn’t need any form of gun control to the realization that this was idiotic. My current position is that all semiauto weapons should be illegal, along with all large-capacity magazines, and of course any transfer of a firearm should require a serious background check and a waiting period of not days but months. And other stuff too. I seriously doubt that all the armies in the world combined possess as many firearms as private American citizens own. Why is this?

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:47:42pm

re: #244 calochortus

Good to know. I guess you’ll eventually have to send bottled water to the southern end states that are all about individual freedumbs to grab water.

One of our village board members suggested that a couple years ago. He is no longer on the village board.

Over in the next county to the east, the county seat sold its city-owned water system to a corporation on promises that they could maintain it more efficiently. Their water costs now are about five times higher than ours. That company is trying to sell bottled water, but is being opposed by the city council (that wasn’t in the agreement). Unfortunately, it’s a big corporation against a city of 800.

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ObserverArt  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:47:58pm

re: #259 Stanley Sea

Hair extensions.

Beauty up front today has no relation to the morning wake up reality.

#sad

I think she just tries too hard. In her looks, her attitude, her delivery and her politics she pushes it on people. Nothing warm and natural about her.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:49:19pm

re: #265 calochortus

I’m too lazy to dye my whitening hair (when you were a light blonde, your hair doesn’t exactly gray,) have never worn much make-up and wear practically none now. What you see what I wake up is frighteningly similar to later in the day. Mr. C. says he thinks I’m beautiful. I think I’ll keep him. It’s certainly easier than doing all that work on my appearance.

I watch the young instgram girls. WTF are you doing with the 2” fake eyelashes while you sleep?

too much.

I don’t wanna hate, er get off my lawn. I just don’t understand the benefit/relax with yourself ratio

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:49:33pm

re: #258 Skip Intro

Her hair isn’t really blonde. She just plays a blonde on Fox because it attracts the geezers.

There is a whole subculture of websites devoted to Fox babe panty-shots.

(And if you’re wondering how I know this, you can give your dirty minds a bath. I read here about a Fox babe I could not identify and did an image search. It was quite revealing.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:49:54pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:50:53pm

re: #241 teleskiguy

You’re pretty good at finding the bleeding edge of what the brain trust at Twitter HQ deems inappropriate. You’ve been suspended once or twice, no?

I’m on my third life. This is 12 hours where I can only browse, I can’t even retweet. That “Do you know what will really piss off the libs? Drinking bleach” was a comment in response to this

I need to just block these choads and not take the bait. I’ve been good for two months but I have been pissed at the attacks on the Parkland kids. How was the comment out of line?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:51:30pm

re: #271 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

There is a whole subculture of websites devoted to Fox babe panty-shots.

(And if you’re wondering how I know this, you can give your dirty minds a bath. I read here about a Fox babe I could not identify and did an image search. It was quite revealing.)

That sounds like a typical Evangelical fetish. Repressed sexuality looking to escape by indulging in forbidden fantasies.

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makeitstop  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:52:26pm

re: #257 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Shade

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Geez, overact much?

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gocart mozart  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:53:15pm

I can still copy paste

LOL
Read the whole article

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calochortus  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:53:31pm

re: #270 Stanley Sea

I watch the young instgram girls. WTF are you doing with the 2” fake eyelashes while you sleep?

too much.

I don’t wanna hate, er get off my lawn. I just don’t understand the benefit/relax with yourself ratio

Yeah, I don’t care what other people do. I’m just not into it myself. I’d rather do all sorts of things other than futzing with my hair or whatever.
I also realize there are a lot of older women who really have to dye their hair so they aren’t perceived as too old for whatever they’re doing. That is sad.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 27, 2018 • 7:58:26pm

re: #276 gocart mozart

Cantwell’s the one that just leaps from belief to belief never admitting that he’s an inconsistent, flighty narcissist.

I’m not surprised he’s trying to thread a new needle—I’m helping the feds (because I’m a fucking wuss) but I’m still alt-right (because please…please like me) and I’m doing everyone a favor (because I can’t admit I’m not the one with the power).

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Stanley Sea  Mar 27, 2018 • 8:00:39pm

Duncan Bunny on a Plane Hunter.

UT San Diego.

If there’s a just world he’ll be kicked to the curb. Scum.

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electrotek  Mar 27, 2018 • 8:08:15pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 27, 2018 • 8:14:28pm

re: #265 calochortus

I’m too lazy to dye my whitening hair (when you were a light blonde, your hair doesn’t exactly gray,) have never worn much make-up and wear practically none now. What you see what I wake up is frighteningly similar to later in the day. Mr. C. says he thinks I’m beautiful. I think I’ll keep him. It’s certainly easier than doing all that work on my appearance.

My wife’s hair went grey in her twenties, long before I met her. Since we moved to Nebraska, the strawberry seems to be returning to her hair … she credits it to all the bovine fertilizer here.

She also lost her sense of smell in her near-fatal car accident in Colorado. The first time we drove by a feedlot, she exclaimed how happy she was because she could smell it. (I can’t imagine enjoying the smell of a feedlot, but my sense of smell has always been with me.)

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calochortus  Mar 27, 2018 • 8:23:29pm

re: #281 Anymouse 🌹

Hmm, bovine fertilizer seems to be a wonderful thing, but I think I’ll try to live without it.

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teleskiguy  Mar 27, 2018 • 8:26:18pm

re: #257 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Her last name is Sunshine. Really?

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BeachDem  Mar 27, 2018 • 8:32:03pm

re: #259 Stanley Sea

Hair extensions.

Beauty up front today has no relation to the morning wake up reality.

#sad

And, since we’ve been mentioning Laurie Metcalf, her best line from
Desperately Seeking Susan—“Beauty fades.”

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Amory Blaine  Mar 27, 2018 • 8:38:26pm

re: #1 Amory Blaine

Hot damn I got 3 downding on this one!

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BeachDem  Mar 27, 2018 • 8:43:25pm

re: #276 gocart mozart

I can still copy paste

LOL
Read the whole article

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I read the article and this line near the end pretty much sums it all up:

In conclusion, all these people are horrible in pretty much every respect.

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Sea Mexican!  Mar 27, 2018 • 8:57:59pm

re: #143 MsJ

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danarchy  Mar 27, 2018 • 9:01:23pm

re: #219 teleskiguy

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I honestly don’t know who she voted for, I’m just pulling shit out of my ass. However, she is not a vociferous anti-Trump voice. Hell, I’ve never read or seen any TV appearances of her castigating Fuckface Von Clownstick, ever.

She’s actually been a nevertrumper from the beginning if I recall correctly


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