NYT Report: Trump’s Lawyer Offered to Pardon Manafort and Flynn to Keep Mum

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This looks very bad for Trump’s former lead counsel John Dowd: Trump lawyer floated idea of pardoning Manafort and Flynn.

Washington (CNN) — President Donald Trump’s lawyer, John Dowd, floated the possibility last year with lawyers for former national security adviser Michael Flynn and former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort that the President might issue pardons for both men, The New York Times reported on Wednesday, citing three individuals with knowledge of the discussions.

The conversations happened as special counsel Robert Mueller “was building cases against both men,” the Times reported, which raises “questions about whether the lawyer, John Dowd, was offering pardons to influence their decisions about whether to plead guilty and cooperate in the investigation” into Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Imagine my shock and surprise that everyone involved in this story is vigorously denying it. But it strongly suggests there was more behind Dowd’s departure from Trump’s legal team than first reported, and if it can be proven it means potential legal and/or ethical issues for Dowd — and for our so-called president, if he directed Dowd to float this offer.

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KGxvi  Mar 28, 2018 • 12:46:06pm

Jesus fucking Christ, that is not how you do this.

You ask them if they’re going to cooperate or if they’re going to stay quiet. You remind them that the president will take care of them, it might not be right away, but he will stand by his guys. They get convicted, they do a couple years, and then in the middle of the night, Trump issues the pardons because he fucking can. That’s how you do this.

Have none of them ever seen Goodfellas or the Godfather?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 12:46:48pm

If they got pardoned, though, doesn’t that mean they can be compelled to testify? I’m confused about how this was supposed to work.

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TedStriker  Mar 28, 2018 • 12:47:53pm

re: #1 KGxvi

Jesus fucking Christ, that is not how you do this.

You ask them if they’re going to cooperate or if they’re going to stay quiet. You remind them that the president will take care of them, it might not be right away, but he will stand by his guys. They get convicted, they do a couple years, and then in the middle of the night, Trump issues the pardons because he fucking can. That’s how you do this.

Have none of them ever seen Goodfellas or the Godfather?

Thank goodness Trump and his WH staff have, by and large, have proven to be capable of fucking up a wet dream.

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makeitstop  Mar 28, 2018 • 12:48:09pm

re: #1 KGxvi

Jesus fucking Christ, that is not how you do this.

You ask them if they’re going to cooperate or if they’re going to stay quiet. You remind them that the president will take care of them, it might not be right away, but he will stand by his guys. They get convicted, they do a couple years, and then in the middle of the night, Trump issues the pardons because he fucking can. That’s how you do this.

Have none of them ever seen Goodfellas or the Godfather?

Hoarse Whisperer calls this ‘Stupid Watergate,’ but I’m more inclined to call is ‘Stupid Goodfellas.’

They wanted to be a crime family, but they just weren’t smart enough.

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TedStriker  Mar 28, 2018 • 12:49:03pm

re: #2 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

If they got pardoned, though, doesn’t that mean they can be compelled to testify? I’m confused about how this was supposed to work.

And that accepting a pardon, especially a presidential pardon, is legally equivalent to admitting guilt.

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KGxvi  Mar 28, 2018 • 12:51:01pm

re: #4 makeitstop

Hoarse Whisperer calls this ‘Stupid Watergate,’ but I’m more inclined to call is ‘Stupid Goodfellas.’

They wanted to be a crime family, but they just weren’t smart enough.

I thought it was John Oliver that came up with Stupid Watergate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 12:51:42pm

re: #1 KGxvi

Have none of them ever seen Goodfellas or the Godfather?

I am actually stunned and amazed, because I honestly believed that they got all of their government/legal inspiration/knowledge from TV and the movies.

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TedStriker  Mar 28, 2018 • 12:51:55pm

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KGxvi  Mar 28, 2018 • 12:52:19pm

re: #5 TedStriker

And that accepting a pardon is legally equivalent to admitting guilt.

We’ve had this debate before, I lean more towards that being dicta. A president can issue a blanket, unconditional pardon, which means that a person need not admit guilt. It’s one of the few truly unrestrained powers in the Constitution.

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makeitstop  Mar 28, 2018 • 12:52:25pm

re: #6 KGxvi

I thought it was John Oliver that came up with Stupid Watergate.

You might be right. I just see ‘Stupid Watergate’ every time I check Hoarse’s Twitter feed. :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 12:52:32pm

good grief

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sagehen  Mar 28, 2018 • 12:54:24pm

re: #1 KGxvi

Jesus fucking Christ, that is not how you do this.

You ask them if they’re going to cooperate or if they’re going to stay quiet. You remind them that the president will take care of them, it might not be right away, but he will stand by his guys. They get convicted, they do a couple years, and then in the middle of the night, Trump issues the pardons because he fucking can. That’s how you do this.

Have none of them ever seen Goodfellas or the Godfather?

A bunch of Nixon’s people probably thought they had pardons coming if they’d just quietly accept their sentence rather than turn… but OOPS!! Suddenly he wasn’t president anymore, and the pardons didn’t happen. G Gordon Liddy, I’m looking at you…

(also, Robert Bork didn’t end up getting what he’d been promised either.)

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Sir John Barron  Mar 28, 2018 • 12:55:57pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

Person: Oh, it’s been funded and construction has started?

DJT: Uh…Yeah, I mean, No, not yet. But it was a great briefing!

/

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Kragar  Mar 28, 2018 • 12:57:28pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

Speaking of construction…

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electrotek  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:01:57pm

Whoever first shared this photo on here, thank you! I snagged it and shared it on my FB for all to see 👍

Facebook Post

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:04:34pm

re: #15 electrotek

Whoever first shared this photo on here, thank you! I snagged it and shared it on my FB for all to see 👍

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That’s….disturbing.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:06:03pm

My heart is so broked

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Sir John Barron  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:07:33pm

re: #17 bill d. (b.d.)

My heart is so broked

…but Assange/WL is not Russia etc

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:07:53pm

re: #14 Kragar

Speaking of construction…

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She makes a lot of trouble for someone who was in High School less than a decade ago.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:08:36pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:10:33pm

re: #20 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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It’s an Easter miracle in the making, in 3 days will Assange come out the embassy door?

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Sir John Barron  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:11:57pm

re: #19 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

She makes a lot of trouble for someone who was in High School less than a decade ago.

Who is this?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:13:03pm
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Sir John Barron  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:14:14pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

You mean RT is lying? I’m shocked.

/

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Belafon  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:14:22pm

re: #22 Sir John Barron

Who is this?

Look at the name below the picture. She’s “gun in her tights” woman.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:15:36pm

re: #25 Belafon

Look at the name below the picture. She’s “gun in her tights” woman.

I can’t see the pic. But I think I know who you’re talking about now.

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Kragar  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:15:38pm

re: #25 Belafon

Look at the name below the picture. She’s “gun in her tights” woman.

Torgo Lamprey

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:15:47pm

re: #22 Sir John Barron

Who is this?

Tammy Lemon

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:16:17pm

Toby LaRue

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:17:05pm

re: #28 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Tammy Lemon

Torrential Liar

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:17:09pm

Tarnished Lampshade

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:17:19pm

re: #19 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

She makes a lot of trouble for someone who was in High School less than a decade ago.

There are a lot more people making trouble for her who are in high school.

re: #22 Sir John Barron

Who is this?

Tango Lamprey.

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JordanRules  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:17:29pm

Tonsil Lettuce

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Interesting Times  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:18:10pm

Toxic Logorrhea

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:18:53pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

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lol RT, a blackberry?

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nines09  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:19:44pm

re: #14 Kragar

Sad. Tough job market for teens….Teen gets plastic surgery and ends up in prostitution.
Very sad story.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:20:07pm

re: #35 bill d. (b.d.)

lol RT, a blackberry?

3CP1! Russian Television! On your air!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:20:43pm

re: #36 nines09

Sad. Tough job market for teens….Teen gets plastic surgery and ends up in prostitution.
Very sad story.

Who’re you talking about?
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:21:42pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:21:59pm

Duck test-Passes with flying colors.
Obstructing An Investigation
law.cornell.edu

(a) Whoever willfully endeavors by means of bribery to obstruct, delay, or prevent the communication of information relating to a violation of any criminal statute of the United States by any person to a criminal investigator shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.
(b)
(1) Whoever, being an officer of a financial institution, with the intent to obstruct a judicial proceeding, directly or indirectly notifies any other person about the existence or contents of a subpoena for records of that financial institution, or information that has been furnished in response to that subpoena, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.
(2) Whoever, being an officer of a financial institution, directly or indirectly notifies—
(A) a customer of that financial institution whose records are sought by a subpoena for records; or
(B) any other person named in that subpoena;
about the existence or contents of that subpoena or information that has been furnished in response to that subpoena, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.
(3) As used in this subsection—
(A) the term “an officer of a financial institution” means an officer, director, partner, employee, agent, or attorney of or for a financial institution; and
(B) the term “subpoena for records” means a Federal grand jury subpoena or a Department of Justice subpoena (issued under section 3486 of title 18), for customer records that has been served relating to a violation of, or a conspiracy to violate—
(i) section 215, 656, 657, 1005, 1006, 1007, 1014, 1344, 1956, 1957, or chapter 53 of title 31; or
(ii) section 1341 or 1343 affecting a financial institution.
(c) As used in this section, the term “criminal investigator” means any individual duly authorized by a department, agency, or armed force of the United States to conduct or engage in investigations of or prosecutions for violations of the criminal laws of the United States.
(d)
(1) Whoever—
(A) acting as, or being, an officer, director, agent or employee of a person engaged in the business of insurance whose activities affect interstate commerce, or
(B) is engaged in the business of insurance whose activities affect interstate commerce or is involved (other than as an insured or beneficiary under a policy of insurance) in a transaction relating to the conduct of affairs of such a business,
with intent to obstruct a judicial proceeding, directly or indirectly notifies any other person about the existence or contents of a subpoena for records of that person engaged in such business or information that has been furnished to a Federal grand jury in response to that subpoena, shall be fined as provided by this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.
(2) As used in paragraph (1), the term “subpoena for records” means a Federal grand jury subpoena for records that has been served relating to a violation of, or a conspiracy to violate, section 1033 of this title.
(e) Whoever, having been notified of the applicable disclosure prohibitions or confidentiality requirements of section 2709(c)(1) of this title, section 626(d)(1) or 627(c)(1) of the Fair Credit Reporting Act (15 U.S.C. 1681u(d)(1) or 1681v(c)(1)), section 1114(a)(3)(A) or 1114(a)(5)(D)(i) of the Right to Financial Privacy Act [1] (12 U.S.C. 3414(a)(3)(A) or 3414(a)(5)(D)(i)), or section 802(b)(1) of the National Security Act of 1947 (50 U.S.C. 436(b)(1)),[2] knowingly and with the intent to obstruct an investigation or judicial proceeding violates such prohibitions or requirements applicable by law to such person shall be imprisoned for not more than five years, fined under this title, or both.
(Added Pub. L. 90-123, § 1(a), Nov. 3, 1967, 81 Stat. 362; amended Pub. L. 97-291, § 4(e), Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1253; Pub. L. 101-73, title IX, § 962(c), Aug. 9, 1989, 103 Stat. 502; Pub. L. 102-550, title XV, § 1528, Oct. 28, 1992, 106 Stat. 4065; Pub. L. 103-322, title XXXII, § 320604(c), title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(K), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2119, 2147; Pub. L. 104-191, title II, § 248(c), Aug. 21, 1996, 110 Stat. 2020; Pub. L. 109-177, title I, § 117, Mar. 9, 2006, 120 Stat. 217; Pub. L. 111-148, title X, § 10606(d)(1), Mar. 23, 2010, 124 Stat. 1008.)

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ObserverArt  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:23:04pm

Fake Tomi.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:24:27pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

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SHUT UP NO IT’S NOT HE CALLED IT A WALL! HE USES ONLY THE BEST WORDS! ARGLE BARGLE!!!

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retired cynic  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:25:44pm

re: #14 Kragar

Speaking of construction…

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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah gasp

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:25:49pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

New York could ban work emails outside office hours

I have learned to ignore headlines: very often just a cursory reading of the article indicates that it is inaccurate or misleading.

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nines09  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:25:50pm

re: #38 Blind Frog Belly White

Monistat challenged Tooki

“One trigger pull and you are as fresh as a Daisy!”
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mmmirele  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:26:28pm

re: #14 Kragar

Rapid City! I have a friend who drove school buses for the Rapid City district at that time. (He’s since moved up to driving city buses.) I wonder if he ever drove TL? I’ll have to ask.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:29:43pm

re: #18 Sir John Barron

…but Assange/WL is not Russia etc

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Just paged this - Ecuador is saying that it’s about Assange and the arrest of a Catalonian separatist leader … but I’m guessing that the uniting of Europe behind Britain in the wake of the Skripal poisoning probably has a lot more to do with it.

Ecuador is in an extremely precarious position economically. Their funds run through European banks. Most of those banks are located in London.

Say what you will about the Brits, their bankers are extremely good at having sinister, threatening, oblique conversations …

“So, Señor Izcarraga, we’ve been noting a great deal of activity in and out of certain accounts in our banking system. We’ve shared that data with our friends in the EU, and in the US and around the world, and it appears that there are the most unfortunate circumstances … “

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gocart mozart  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:32:08pm
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:32:10pm

Link to page on Assange, and an “unnamed British minister” calling him a “miserable little worm” - littlegreenfootballs.com

Like the other Russian agents operating on British soil that got ejected this past week … the days of forced bonhomie and the gentleman’s agreement to look the other way, are OVER.

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Sir John Barron  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:33:19pm

re: #46 mmmirele

Rapid City! I have a friend who drove school buses for the Rapid City district at that time. (He’s since moved up to driving city buses.) I wonder if he ever drove TL? I’ll have to ask.

I visited RC a few years ago when I went to Mt. Rushmore. Great town, I enjoyed it. Managed not to run into miss gunz.

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Kragar  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:34:45pm
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wrenchwench  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:36:31pm

re: #50 Sir John Barron

I visited RC a few years ago when I went to Mt. Rushmore. Great town, I enjoyed it. Managed not to run into miss gunz.

I visited there in 1972. We got a family snapshot in front of McGovern’s headquarters, minus my older brother, who refused. He’s since turned liberal, He was going through a rebellious phase.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:36:32pm

re: #51 Kragar

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See, we don’t need gun control, we need car control!

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:37:23pm

re: #37 Blind Frog Belly White

3CP1! Russian Television! On your air!

Iz now! Triumphant proof of Rossiyan technological superiority!

Can use to dial into lifeline on UpalScrabbleNik! Not just waterproof, but wodkaproof!
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:39:54pm

re: #53 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

See, we don’t need gun control, we need car control!

Maybe some kind of licensing and restrictions are needed.

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freetoken  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:40:12pm

Getting back to the current problem in our society of right-wing fundamentalist Christians and their love of totalitarianism in the name of Je$u$:

Taylor University Still Shaken by Unsanctioned Conservative Newspaper

A month later, Taylor University is still buzzing about an underground publication, Excalibur, which claimed the evangelical college was becoming more liberal on sex, immigration, and race.

[…]

In their debut newsletter, Excalibur promoted the conservative and orthodox Christian values its writers believed were being replaced by more politically and theologically liberal views among Taylor’s student body, campus speakers, and faculty publications.

The anonymous articles decried “permissive views of human sexuality, hostility toward creationist perspectives, rejection of the rule of law (especially on the immigration issue) and uncritical endorsement of liberal-progressive ideas.”

Excalibur advocated for a “conservative-libertarian approach to race relations” over “incessant calls for social justice, diversity, and equality,” likening the push for social justice to the false prophets warned about in Scripture (John 10 and 2 Peter 2). […]

Now, the president of the university condemned the letter (read the article), but the atavists have their supporters. One group (mostly recent graduates) write, with too many words and too little meaning, an attack on the president for his harsh words for the publication:

An Open Letter to President Haines and the Taylor University Board of Trustees

The lunge towards redefining “Christianity” in America as a type of ethno-nationalism based on right-wing ideology is where we are at in 2018, in the Trump-epoch.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:40:33pm

Any day we can name-check the brilliant crew at SCTV

SCTV S04E10 CCCP 1

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gocart mozart  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:41:41pm
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makeitstop  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:44:44pm

re: #22 Sir John Barron

Who is this?

Tumor Larynx.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:47:17pm

re: #2 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

If they got pardoned, though, doesn’t that mean they can be compelled to testify? I’m confused about how this was supposed to work.

They could still plead the 5th about any crimes that have State level liability. But yes, they would have to testify about anything the pardon covers that only has Federal exposure.

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nines09  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:47:26pm

re: #59 makeitstop

Tumor Larynx.

Tiki Torch Barbie

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lawhawk  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:48:33pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

You mean a 30 foot tall fence? The one that can be circumvented with a ladder and rope? Yeah, that’s the one.

Also, how’s he paying for this when he said Mexico was paying. Oh, that’s right - taxpayers on the hook.

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TedStriker  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:51:33pm

re: #62 lawhawk

You mean a 30 foot tall fence? The one that can be circumvented with a ladder and rope? Yeah, that’s the one.

Also, how’s he paying for this when he said Mexico was paying. Oh, that’s right - taxpayers on the hook.

And, now, Trump thinks he can bypass the budgeting resistance he’s been getting on it in Congress and elsewhere by making the DoD build it out of their “rich” budget, because “national defense”.

He really is a malevolent toad.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:52:49pm

re: #56 freetoken

Getting back to the current problem in our society of right-wing fundamentalist Christians and their love of totalitarianism in the name of Je$u$:

Taylor University Still Shaken by Unsanctioned Conservative Newspaper

Now, the president of the university condemned the letter (read the article), but the atavists have their supporters. One group (mostly recent graduates) write, with too many words and too little meaning, an attack on the president for his harsh words for the publication:

An Open Letter to President Haines and the Taylor University Board of Trustees

The lunge towards redefining “Christianity” in America as a type of ethno-nationalism based on right-wing ideology is where we are at in 2018, in the Trump-epoch.

Oh, Christ. That’s my alma mater. I never heard a word of this.

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Sea Mexican!  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:52:50pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Aww, they lifted my hopes to let them crashed so horribly …

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Sea Mexican!  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:53:59pm

re: #65 Sea Mexican!

(It’s not that I’m bombarded by them. But a few people can be too … pushy in this aspect, expecting answers immediately.)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:55:22pm

re: #64 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It sucks to be reading through that article and see the name of a man I highly respected, who actually helped me liberalize my Christian views, as one of the leaders of the movement. What the hell, guys. I actually talked about how my college experience was transformative in getting me away from my hardcore conservative roots and that this was a GOOD THING. And you have to go and trash yourselves in the media.

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makeitstop  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:56:02pm

Once again…I had to.

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wrenchwench  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:58:16pm

re: #64 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh, Christ. That’s my alma mater. I never heard a word of this.

That’s not in vain, is it, the way you take the lord’s name there?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 1:59:16pm

re: #69 wrenchwench

That’s not in vain, is it, the way you take the lord’s name there?

I certainly hope not. If anyone listening hears that, they’d better know I am deadly serious about what’s going on and a sincere appeal to the Almighty for patience not to rip everyone’s heads off.

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Belafon  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:00:44pm

re: #69 wrenchwench

That’s not in vain, is it, the way you take the lord’s name there?

(Writing as if you’re being serious.)
Nope. Swearing is not taking it in vain. Claiming God/Jesus told you to act like an asshole is.

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dangerman  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:02:06pm

re: #66 Sea Mexican!

(It’s not that I’m bombarded by them. But a few people can be too … pushy in this aspect, expecting answers immediately.)

many even expect you to be monitoring your account at all times
i say nope - until you start paying me for all 24 hours in a day

i have a set time of day to answer emails, unless something specific and critical is going on

anything else i may see in my inbox, i may respond, or not and you wait

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makeitstop  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:04:59pm

re: #72 dangerman

many even expect you to be monitoring your account at all times
i say nope - until you start paying me for all 24 hours in a day

i have a set time of day to answer emails, unless something specific and critical is going on

anything else i may see in my inbox, i may respond, or not and you wait

After ten years of reading every email no matter what time they came in, I got wise and just closed the mail client down after 5 on weekdays and every weekend.

It’s just the internet. Unless it’s an absolute barn-burner, it can wait.

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nines09  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:07:38pm

Something completely off topic. I’ve alway had a thing for torchy singers. Julie London was smokey ….I remember seeing this movie as a kid and sitting right up. I later forgot all about her.
Today I thought of her again. And I dug this up. Great movie. Great scenes.
I can smell the smoke.
I have to feed people. Later.

Julie London - Cry Me A River (Good quality video).avi

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:08:33pm

re: #71 Belafon

(Writing as if you’re being serious.)
Nope. Swearing is not taking it in vain. Claiming God/Jesus told you to act like an asshole is.

Yes. Don’t know when cussing was confounded with taking lords name in vain. Presuming vanity to be able to speak FOR god is. But fundies do it all the time.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:08:40pm

re: #72 dangerman

many even expect you to be monitoring your account at all times
i say nope - until you start paying me for all 24 hours in a day

i have a set time of day to answer emails, unless something specific and critical is going on

anything else i may see in my inbox, i may respond, or not and you wait

I used to be driven to respond to emails instantaneously, in the name of “being a good consultant/employee” and trying to provide good customer service. After an incident which ended in a work-related phone call as Mrs. Fish and I were supposed to be getting dressed up to go out for our wedding anniversary on a Saturday night, I started modifying that expectation. Nowadays, I’m perfectly comfortable with leaving emails for the next morning - if you can’t get it to me by the time I leave the office, it’s clearly not important. Work stops when I climb into my car.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:10:01pm

Is this real? Because it’s fucking awful.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:10:15pm

Off-topic, but of interest maybe to those who served in the Vietnam War.

The Navy Exchange, BX, and PX are offering a 50th anniversary lapel pin to commemorate veterans who served in the Vietnam War. (This is only for Vietnam vets, not Gold Star Family members or other veterans.)

They are available on March 29 at a large number of Exchanges. They are also available throughout the country through partner organisations and businesses.

vietnamwar50th.com (includes link to pages showing participating Exchanges and partner organisations throughout the country)

The President signed into law last year an act recognising National Vietnam War Veterans Day.

Most states and territories will release proclamations, hold events, &c.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:12:29pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

Is this real? Because it’s fucking awful.

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Sean shouldn’t have quit his day job.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:14:24pm

re: #68 makeitstop

Once again…I had to.

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So what Sugar Daddy paid for Tomi’s plastic surgery?

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Belafon  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:14:54pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

Is this real? Because it’s fucking awful.

I can’t see the picture, but I’m assuming it’s from the book. I’ve seen stuff other people write, thinking they’re writers. I don’t think megalomania is as much of an issue as anyone just thinking they can write a book.

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Skip Intro  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:15:46pm

re: #5 TedStriker

And that accepting a pardon, especially a presidential pardon, is legally equivalent to admitting guilt.

Not in Joe Arpaio’s case.

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makeitstop  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:15:46pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

Is this real? Because it’s fucking awful.

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I saw a different excerpt this morning. It was just as bad.

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Citizen K  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:17:28pm
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Belafon  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:18:54pm

re: #82 Skip Intro

newsweek.com

Joe Arpaio Found Out He Admitted Guilt With Trump Pardon On Live TV

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dangerman  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:20:42pm

re: #76 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I used to be driven to respond to emails instantaneously, in the name of “being a good consultant/employee” and trying to provide good customer service. After an incident which ended in a work-related phone call as Mrs. Fish and I were supposed to be getting dressed up to go out for our wedding anniversary on a Saturday night, I started modifying that expectation. Nowadays, I’m perfectly comfortable with leaving emails for the next morning - if you can’t get it to me by the time I leave the office, it’s clearly not important. Work stops when I climb into my car.

my client’s crisis is not my crisis
sometimes it’s hard to do

and often it’s either not a real crisis anyway, or was self induced/own goal

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:22:20pm

re: #86 dangerman

my client’s crisis is not my crisis
sometimes it’s hard to do

and often it’s either not a real crisis anyway, or was self induced/own goal

Given the nature of my former employer, there were some crises that were “my” crises, as in, if I don’t take care of them, the client fires us, and then my boss fires me. For example: Their production system goes down completely, I should make a best-effort attempt to respond in a timely fashion. If it’s literally anything else, I was perfectly justified in waiting until the morning.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:23:48pm

re: #84 Citizen K

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That’s different. Don Jr didn’t criticize our gun laws.//

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:24:43pm

re: #85 Belafon

newsweek.com

Joe Arpaio Found Out He Admitted Guilt With Trump Pardon On Live TV

For a former law man, he’s not smart is he?

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Citizen K  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:25:27pm

re: #88 HappyWarrior

That’s different. Don Jr didn’t criticize our gun laws.//

At least they recognize Hogg is still a kid. Of course, they only do so in order to insist that we need to raise the voting age ‘cuz them dumb kids keep flirting with “identity politics” and “gun control” and other commie things.

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dangerman  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:26:13pm

re: #87 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Given the nature of my former employer, there were some crises that were “my” crises, as in, if I don’t take care of them, the client fires us, and then my boss fires me. For example: Their production system goes down completely, I should make a best-effort attempt to respond in a timely fashion. If it’s literally anything else, I was perfectly justified in waiting until the morning.

yeah - i get on call
even pseudo on call

that doesnt mean they get to behave like we’re all on call all the time

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:30:08pm

But yeah it disgusts me how Hogg and the other kids have become attacked by the right. It’s like people have forgotten they were fucking shot.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:30:52pm

re: #91 dangerman

yeah - i get on call
even pseudo on call

that doesnt mean they get to behave like we’re all on call all the time

Ayup.

There was one client that took to calling my personal number at all hours of the day (and sometimes of the night) if they had an issue, or a question, or a request, or really just anything having to do with the project. I started screening calls from them and passing the information off to my project partner when we were available to deal with it, and we’d set up a scheduled call with that client later. The calls eventually stopped.

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Citizen K  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:33:18pm

re: #92 HappyWarrior

But yeah it disgusts me how Hogg and the other kids have become attacked by the right. It’s like people have forgotten they were fucking shot.

Kids getting shot is just the natural and acceptable consequence for the god-given right to unfettered gun proliferation, and if you can’t accept that, you hate America and baby Jesus.

I’m not even putting snark marks on that, that’s pretty much the NRA position verbatim.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:35:07pm

re: #94 Citizen K

Kids getting shot is just the natural and acceptable consequence for the god-given right to unfettered gun proliferation, and if you can’t accept that, you hate America and baby Jesus.

I’m not even putting snark marks on that, that’s pretty much the NRA position verbatim.

Yep.

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KingKenrod  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:37:05pm

Dr. Rubber Stamp getting a promotion.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:37:25pm

Anything to stop his diet

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ObserverArt  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:38:11pm

Shulkin out at VA.

Donny just tweeted he will be replaced with Rear Admiral Ronnie L. Jackson.

Remember Ronnie…he is the Doc that said Trump was in pretty good shape but needed to lose a little weight in his official physical.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:39:58pm

re: #98 ObserverArt

Shulkin out at VA.

Donny just tweeted he will be replaced with Rear Admiral Ronnie L. Jackson.

Remember Ronnie…he is the Doc that said Trump was in pretty good shape but needed to lose a little weight in his official physical.

I do. Hmmm.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:43:02pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

Is this real? Because it’s fucking awful.

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Oh Jesus Christ on a pogo stick.

That whole magnum opus is destined to find its place in the pantheon next to the works of Bulmer-Lytton and the Bad Hemingway winners.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:43:06pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:43:11pm

re: #98 ObserverArt

Shulkin out at VA.

Donny just tweeted he will be replaced with Rear Admiral Ronnie L. Jackson.

Remember Ronnie…he is the Doc that said Trump was in pretty good shape but needed to lose a little weight in his official physical.

At least (a) he is a legitimate physician and (b) in the military. So maybe he will not be totally incompetent for this position.

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Jay C  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:44:05pm

re: #80 Joe Bacon 🌹

So what Sugar Daddy paid for Tomi’s plastic surgery?

Probably none: Ms. Lahren seems like the sort who would save up for the “enhancements” the way other girls might save for college….

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:44:30pm
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Belafon  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:44:51pm

re: #101 Stanley Sea

All this governmenting can’t be that hard. A n—-, I mean black man, did it.

////////

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TedStriker  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:45:04pm

re: #102 Hecuba’s daughter

At least (a) he is a legitimate physician and (b) in the military. So maybe he will not be totally incompetent for this position.

Doesn’t mean that Jackson’s not a brown-nosing kiss-ass.

I can’t help but wonder if there was some quid pro quo with Trump’s physical and this…

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ObserverArt  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:45:06pm

re: #99 HappyWarrior

I do. Hmmm.

Does anyone get the feeling that Trump knows who he is going to boot out of a job for some time, but only releases a Twitter announcing it as needed?

Today’s need…see the reason Charles created this page.

I wonder who is up next as the “news cycle sacrificial lamb” for Trump?

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:45:55pm

re: #86 dangerman

my client’s crisis is not my crisis
sometimes it’s hard to do

and often it’s either not a real crisis anyway, or was self induced/own goal

“Your lack of planning is not my emergency.” - Navy proverb

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:46:40pm

re: #108 Anymouse 🌹

“Your lack of planning is not my emergency.” - Navy proverb

Or, the way I phrased it in my Skype status for months: “A lack of forethought on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.”

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ObserverArt  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:46:46pm

re: #102 Hecuba’s daughter

At least (a) he is a legitimate physician and (b) in the military. So maybe he will not be totally incompetent for this position.

Yes…but since he did formerly have ties to Obama how long will he have the position?

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:49:15pm

re: #92 HappyWarrior

But yeah it disgusts me how Hogg and the other kids have become attacked by the right. It’s like people have forgotten they were fucking shot.

The first rule of conservatism is to gain or maintain power at all costs. A group of teenagers must be crushed if they stand in the way of power.

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wrenchwench  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:50:09pm

re: #104 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I know this is all wrong, but ‘rear admiral’ makes me think of spanky.

Apologies to those I have offended.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:51:15pm

Jackson’s primary qualification for the job is that he was willing to lie about the President’s weight. I really hope that during the confirmation hearing someone asks him if he personally witness Trump’s weigh in and if he personally finds the published number to be at all credible, while sternly reminding him that he’s under oath.

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MsJ  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:52:31pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

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KGxvi  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:53:01pm

re: #102 Hecuba’s daughter

At least (a) he is a legitimate physician and (b) in the military. So maybe he will not be totally incompetent for this position.

Unfortunately, neither of those traits are highly useful for running a large organization like the VA.

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BlueGrl21  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:53:14pm

re: #59 makeitstop

Tumor Larynx.

Tonsil Latrine

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:53:36pm

Yesterday, Polish atheists commemorated Kazimierz Łyszczyński in a march through Warsaw. He was killed by the Catholic Church in 1689 for declaring his atheism and stating he believed there was no god.

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KGxvi  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:54:28pm

Meanwhile, in the unintended-but-completely-obviously-going-to-happen consequences file:

Three anti-Muslim militia members, on trial for plotting to slaughter Somali refugees in southwest Kansas, have adopted a defense strategy that could’ve been culled directly from President Donald Trump’s Twitter feed: suggesting that a biased FBI conspired against them in the lead-up to the 2016 election due to their political beliefs.

Trump has spent so much time bad mouthing the government he runs, criminal defendants are now arguing its corrupt. Yay.

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darthstar  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:55:20pm
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TedStriker  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:55:26pm

re: #116 BlueGrl21

Tonsil Latrine

Prince John: Such an unusual name, “Latrine.” How did your family come by it?
Latrine: We changed it in the 9th century.
Prince John: You mean you changed it to “Latrine”?
Latrine: Yeah. Used to be “Shithouse.”
Prince John: It’s a good change…..it’s a good change.

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darthstar  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:56:26pm

re: #119 darthstar

That came at the end of his thread.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:57:40pm

re: #104 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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BlueGrl21  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:59:04pm

re: #120 TedStriker

Prince John: Such an unusual name, “Latrine.” How did your family come by it?
Latrine: We changed it in the 9th century.
Prince John: You mean you changed it to “Latrine”?
Latrine: Yeah. Used to be “Shithouse.”

Shithouse, shithole, Toni…we have a convergence!

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:59:08pm

re: #115 KGxvi

Unfortunately, neither of those traits are highly useful for running a large organization like the VA.

He is being hired to dismantle the VA and privatize veterans care.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:59:49pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 2:59:58pm

re: #122 Anymouse 🌹

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Indeed. He’s simply not qualified.

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ObserverArt  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:00:02pm

re: #119 darthstar

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No Darth…that is how he fires ‘em.

You read about it, or go in the next day to find all your stuff in boxes.

If anything, Trump has demonstrated he is a total wimp when it comes to have to do the hard stuff.

That’s why he has all those great people he hired. They do it for him, while he slides out the back door and runs upstairs in the White House for some executive time.

It is also why he will get eaten alive if he does actually negotiate with any world leaders.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:00:12pm

This makes perfect sense, right?
//

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MsJ  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:00:55pm

Man, if Jeopardy! ever asks about who is in this administration, I am afraid I would go deep into the hole.

I cannot keep track of who is who on a day to day basis.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:01:57pm

re: #129 MsJ

Man, if Jeopardy! ever asks about who is in this administration, I am afraid I would go deep into the hole.

I cannot keep track of who is who on a day to day basis.

We’ve had so many departures in the first year from someone who said he only hires the best people.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:02:07pm

re: #128 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

This makes perfect sense, right?
//

With a sane Senate, he would be extensively grilled to determine whether he is actually competent for the job of VA Secretary.

Unfortunately, small “l” libertarian conservatives are in charge of the Senate.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:02:40pm

re: #129 MsJ

Man, if Jeopardy! ever asks about who is in this administration, I am afraid I would go deep into the hole.

I cannot keep track of who is who on a day to day basis.

Good luck

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:02:56pm

And unfortunately it’s a cynical enough appointment that critics of the pick will be painted as hating the troops.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:03:22pm

re: #132 Stanley Sea

Good luck

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We didn’t start the fire!

Oh wait, sorry.

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Citizen K  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:04:17pm

re: #124 Big Beautiful Door

He is being hired to dismantle the VA and privatize veterans care.

That’s the main prerequisite for any and all Trump hires after all: how quickly can you dismantle the agency you’ll be in charge of?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:04:21pm

You know, if the President nominates his physician for Surgeon General I think, OK
But, this?
Hey, it can’t be much worse than Carson getting HUD, right?

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ObserverArt  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:04:29pm

re: #129 MsJ

Man, if Jeopardy! ever asks about who is in this administration, I am afraid I would go deep into the hole.

I cannot keep track of who is who on a day to day basis.

I just had a vision of the “question” coming up on the big board, and then going blank for a moment as another newer corrected answer comes up.

Trump just fired the person that was the original answer.

Trump’s a real game changer fer shure!

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:06:16pm

re: #136 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

You know, if the President nominates his physician for Surgeon General I think, OK
But, this?
Hey, it can’t be much worse than Carson getting HUD, right?

Carson was worse.

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ObserverArt  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:06:41pm

re: #132 Stanley Sea

Good luck

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There goes Rachel Maddow’s chart…again.

They are going to have to move her to a bigger studio at Rock Center.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:06:46pm

re: #128 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

This makes perfect sense, right?
//

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“He’s a general and his nickname is Mad Dog, so he’s perfect for SecDef!”

“He was a governor of a state with a lot of oil, so he’s perfect for Energy Secretary!”

“He’s black, so he’s perfect for Housing and Urban Development!”

And now,

“He’s in the military, and he’s a doctor, so he’s perfect for the VA!”

Our country is being run by a grade schooler.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:06:52pm

re: #133 HappyWarrior

And unfortunately it’s a cynical enough appointment that critics of the pick will be painted as hating the troops.

Like this hater:

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:08:14pm

re: #141 Anymouse 🌹

Like this hater:

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Absolutely.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:08:59pm

re: #140 Blind Frog Belly White

“He’s a general and his nickname is Mad Dog, so he’s perfect for SecDef!”

“He was a governor of a state with a lot of oil, so he’s perfect for Energy Secretary!”

“He’s black, so he’s perfect for Housing and Urban Development!”

And now,

“He’s in the military, and he’s a doctor, so he’s perfect for the VA!”

Our country is being run by a grade schooler.

Yeah I’m convinced that’s the only reason why Mattis got his job.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:10:54pm

re: #142 HappyWarrior

Absolutely.

Dr. Jackson is an active duty flag officer (a rear admiral). That means Congress has to weigh in with special permission for him to serve as a department secretary.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:10:56pm
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MsJ  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:11:09pm

re: #132 Stanley Sea

Throw in all the departments they’ve come and gone from and Ken Jennings couldn’t come up with the correct responses.

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BeachDem  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:11:33pm

re: #136 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

You know, if the President nominates his physician for Surgeon General I think, OK
But, this?
Hey, it can’t be much worse than Carson getting HUD, right?

Last night Lawrence had former Energy Secretary, Ernest Moniz on. Moniz, with a Bachelor of Science summa cum laude in physics and a PhD in theoretical physics, was replaced by

with a Bachelor of Science degree in animal science.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:12:23pm
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darthstar  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:12:29pm

Rachel’s going to need a bigger screen…like a fuckin’ IMAX.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:13:22pm

re: #147 BeachDem

Last night Lawrence had former Energy Secretary, Ernest Moniz on. Moniz, with a Bachelor of Science summa cum laude in physics and a PhD in theoretical physics, was replaced by

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with a Bachelor of Science degree in animal science.

and he got a “D” in Meats.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:13:24pm

re: #149 darthstar

Rachel’s going to need a bigger screen…like a fuckin’ IMAX.

This has got to be a record for the first year.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:13:29pm

re: #147 BeachDem

Last night Lawrence had former Energy Secretary, Ernest Moniz on. Moniz, with a Bachelor of Science summa cum laude in physics and a PhD in theoretical physics, was replaced by

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with a Bachelor of Science degree in animal science.

Shit even looking at W’s appointments. Mel Martinez would not have been my pick for HUD but he had experience in housing. Rod Paige had experience in education. And Jenna and Barbara weren’t traveling abroad to solve disputes.

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ObserverArt  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:14:51pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

and he got a “D” in Meats.

I dunno…he seems to have done a bang-up job of demonstrating he is a meathead.

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CleverToad  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:15:11pm

Just looked out the window.
It’s either snowing or it’s very small hail. My kid says it’s hail because snow doesn’t bounce.

On behalf of Denver, I apologize to you, Dangerman & Mrs. DM, for our lousy weather timing.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:15:24pm

TBH this is exactly why you don’t want some bullshit talking “outsider”.

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ObserverArt  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:16:16pm

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹

This has got to be a record for the first year.

It may be a new record for a complete first term.

That is usually when there are staff changes. Not with Donny.

It’s like the old bit about coaches in professional sports. You are hired to be fired.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:16:20pm

re: #154 CleverToad

Just looked out the window.
It’s either snowing or it’s very small hail. My kid says it’s hail because snow doesn’t bounce.

On behalf of Denver, I apologize to you, Dangerman & Mrs. DM, for our lousy weather timing.

Sleet.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:18:07pm

I’m trying to wonder about a Clinton or Sanders cabinet. Both would be more stable than this crap show.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:18:55pm

Do even know the reason why Shulkin was let go? Not going to buy the money scandal given Carson is still employed.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:20:08pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:20:10pm

re: #157 Anymouse 🌹

Sleet.

That’s in the USA. In Commonwealth countries “sleet” means “mixed rain and snow,” so Canada uses “ice pellets” to describe the condition.

en.wikipedia.org

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freetoken  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:20:16pm

Because you always wanted to know but were afraid to ask:

Why do Shower Curtains Billow Inwards? - Monthly Mailbag #13

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:22:36pm
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BeachDem  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:22:44pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

Do even know the reason why Shulkin was let go? Not going to buy the money scandal given Carson is still employed.

Not sure, but the Trump whisperer says Donny LURVS Ronny.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:24:18pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:25:15pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh shut up you whiny brat. They got his title correct. Btw aren’t you supposed to be running the family business?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:25:46pm

re: #164 BeachDem

Not sure, but the Trump whisperer says Donny LURVS Ronny.

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Ah. Makes sense.

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freetoken  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:25:46pm

re: #147 BeachDem

Moniz recently gave the opening remarks at MIT at a meeting celebrating Charney and Lorenz:

MIT on Chaos and Climate: Opening Keynote — Basic Research: the Lifeblood of a Successful Society

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:26:34pm

re: #168 freetoken

Moniz recently gave the opening remarks at MIT at a meeting celebrating Charney and Lorenz:

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Somehow not seeing Perry being able to do that.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:26:56pm

re: #165 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Whooooops. Someone’s gonna be jobless in the morning.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:27:16pm

re: #165 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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same one that is crippling the City of Atlanta right now?

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TedStriker  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:27:25pm

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good news for the VA budget, since no one cuts fat like Ronny Jackson

— Josh Patten (@thejoshpatten) March 28, 2018

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ObserverArt  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:27:54pm

re: #166 HappyWarrior

Oh shut up you whiny brat. They got his title correct. Btw aren’t you supposed to be running the family business?

That is the family business.

It’s all bullshit for sale.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:27:59pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:29:40pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:30:20pm
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CleverToad  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:30:23pm

re: #157 Anymouse 🌹

Sleet.

Well, yeah, if you’re gonna be all picky about it :)
It’s settling down into a fairly enthusiastic snow now. Good for the lawn, bad for touristing.
Now if we can get enough of this nice, wet stuff up by Teleskiguy, he might not have to listen to lawnmowers again for a couple of weeks.

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CarolJ  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:31:13pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

Definitely. They would have been able to recruit the best from the Obama Administration, and even some younger members of the Clinton Administration. The Obama ones would have been scandal-free and competent. The Clinton ones would have been battle-hardened and also experienced. Result, no Drama Clinton.

I remember that Bush people were warned away from the Trump Administration by someone who tried to go through the transition and experienced the chaos and bad vibes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:31:41pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

Do even know the reason why Shulkin was let go? Not going to buy the money scandal given Carson is still employed.

Well, it was more than a money scandal …

vanityfair.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:31:45pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:31:58pm

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He is an admiral and is Trump’s personal physician. Donnie Jr is such a whiny shit. The article isn’t even critical. It’s pretty neutral.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:32:34pm

re: #179 Anymouse 🌹

Well, it was more than a money scandal …

vanityfair.com

Thanja.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:33:14pm

re: #170 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Whooooops. Someone’s gonna be jobless in the morning.

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ObserverArt  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:33:31pm

re: #180 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jeet Heer ✔
@HeerJeet
So you give a guy one check-up plus a quick quiz to prove he’s not totally demented & you become a cabinet secretary. America is a great country.

6:07 PM - Mar 28, 2018

Everyone was always told “you too could become President!”

Um, we need to rethink that…

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KGxvi  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:33:31pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

I’m trying to wonder about a Clinton or Sanders cabinet. Both would be more stable than this crap show.

I’m guessing there might have been some hold over from Obama’s cabinet, or cabinet members running new departments. Baker went from Treasury to State (with some time off between) when HW Bush succeeded Reagan. Nicholas Brady was Reagan’s last appointment at Treasury and he stayed on through the Bush Administration. Also looks like Reagan’s last AG stayed on for a while too.

So I suspect there would have been something similar if Clinton would have won. And maybe this would be about the time that you’d see those holdovers looking to move on.

But it’s an entirely different thing to see so many cabinet members (and White House staff) serving for so short a time in the early days of an administration. Usually you see people serving short term near the end of an administration as people are moving on.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:34:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:35:37pm

re: #185 KGxvi

I’m guessing there might have been some hold over from Obama’s cabinet, or cabinet members running new departments. Baker went from Treasury to State (with some time off between) when HW Bush succeeded Reagan. Nicholas Brady was Reagan’s last appointment at Treasury and he stayed on through the Bush Administration. Also looks like Reagan’s last AG stayed on for a while too.

So I suspect there would have been something similar if Clinton would have won. And maybe this would be about the time that you’d see those holdovers looking to move on.

But it’s an entirely different thing to see so many cabinet members (and White House staff) serving for so short a time in the early days of an administration. Usually you see people serving short term near the end of an administration as people are moving on.

Agreed. I do wonder about a hypothetical Sanders cabinet. It’s one reason tbh I wasn’t sold.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:35:42pm

Alex Jones should have a medical professional evaluate those bags under his eyes.

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:36:03pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

Do even know the reason why Shulkin was let go? Not going to buy the money scandal given Carson is still employed.

Shulkin has opposed a Koch Brothers plan to privatize VA functions.

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darthstar  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:36:12pm

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹

This has got to be a record for the first year.

It’s more than Obama had in eight. Maybe more than Obama + Bush 43’s departures.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:36:39pm

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I don’t want you to die, Alex. I want you to lose everything and actually have to work a honest living.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:36:52pm

re: #189 goddamnedfrank

Shulkin has opposed a Koch Brothers plan to privatize VA functions.

Aha.

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Citizen K  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:36:57pm

re: #190 darthstar

It’s more than Obama had in eight. Maybe more than Obama + Bush 43’s departures.

Trump’s setting records all over, getting more done than any other president! //

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KGxvi  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:38:01pm

re: #187 HappyWarrior

Agreed. I do wonder about a hypothetical Sanders cabinet. It’s one reason tbh I wasn’t sold.

If he wanted them, I’m guessing Sanders would have been able to get the best Democratic minds in his administration. The question though, is whether he’d have wanted them or if he’d have been a lefty version of Trump.

I’m also really curious who Sanders’ VP pick would have been. And if the party would have stepped in if he tried to go way off the reservation (a la McCain allegedly wanting Lieberman in ‘08).

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:38:57pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:39:44pm

re: #194 KGxvi

If he wanted them, I’m guessing Sanders would have been able to get the best Democratic minds in his administration. The question though, is whether he’d have wanted them or if he’d have been a lefty version of Trump.

I’m also really curious who Sanders’ VP pick would have been. And if the party would have stepped in if he tried to go way off the reservation (a la McCain allegedly wanting Lieberman in ‘08).

I think he would have wanted yes men and women. Wouldn’t be as bad as Trump but it would be ineffective imo. I’d be curious about his VP pick too.

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BeachDem  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:41:00pm

I’d say these are the two biggest reasons Doctor Ronny is going to head the VA—

First, because he said this in his ridiculous press appearance about the yam’s fabulous physical condition:

“It is called genetics … ” Jackson said. “Some people have just great genes. I told the president that if he had a healthier diet over the last 20 years, he might live to be 200 years old.”

And second, because Doctor Ronny has “the look”

We. Are. All. Fucked.

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KGxvi  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:42:19pm

re: #190 darthstar

It’s more than Obama had in eight. Maybe more than Obama + Bush 43’s departures.

Bush had surprisingly little turnover. Only a couple of departments had 3 Secretaries and a few of those look like final year appointments.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:42:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:42:56pm

re: #197 BeachDem

I’d say these are the two biggest reasons Doctor Ronny is going to head the VA—

First, because he said this in his ridiculous press appearance about the yam’s fabulous physical condition:

“It is called genetics … ” Jackson said. “Some people have just great genes. I told the president that if he had a healthier diet over the last 20 years, he might live to be 200 years old.”

And second, because Doctor Ronny has “the look”

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We. Are. All. Fucked.

I forgot Jackson said that. Sheesh that makes me wonder about his capacities as a physician let alone VA.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:44:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:45:23pm

re: #198 KGxvi

Bush had surprisingly little turnover. Only a couple of departments had 3 Secretaries and a few of those look like final year appointments.

Rumsfeld was there too long but yes.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:47:45pm

Damn the more I think about the great genetics comment the more I think about how surreal the presidency is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:48:14pm

i was needing a happy story today:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:51:02pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:52:48pm

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I see he’s admitted he wants a politicized USSC.

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Citizen K  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:53:59pm

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:54:05pm

re: #197 BeachDem

I’d say these are the two biggest reasons Doctor Ronny is going to head the VA—

First, because he said this in his ridiculous press appearance about the yam’s fabulous physical condition:

“It is called genetics … ” Jackson said. “Some people have just great genes. I told the president that if he had a healthier diet over the last 20 years, he might live to be 200 years old.”

And second, because Doctor Ronny has “the look”

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We. Are. All. Fucked.

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ObserverArt  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:54:41pm

re: #206 HappyWarrior

I see he’s admitted he wants a politicized USSC.

It’s pretty obvious Trump wants to be a dictator.

All we got was a dick.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:55:11pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:55:30pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:56:26pm

Christopher Eccleston says he “lost faith and trust and belief” in Doctor Who bosses while filming (RadioTimes)

He seems to feel better about the show now, and will attend a convention in London.

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Citizen K  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:56:59pm

re: #212 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Christopher Eccleston says he “lost faith and trust and belief” in Doctor Who bosses while filming (RadioTimes)

He seems to feel better about the show now, and will attend a convention in London.

Shame since I actually really liked his Doctor.

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Single-handed sailor  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:58:31pm

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Article written by a conservative? Color me surprised.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:58:33pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

Do even know the reason why Shulkin was let go? Not going to buy the money scandal given Carson is still employed.

Because he was making the VA work, and the ideologues Trump hired to work under him want to blow it up.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:59:00pm

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Did anyone tell Mitt Romney this? She has moved on. She’s allowed to endorse and campaign for people and she still got more votes than Bernie and Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 3:59:45pm

re: #216 HappyWarrior

Did anyone tell Mitt Romney this? She has moved on. She’s allowed to endorse and campaign for people and she still got more votes than Bernie and Trump.

I wish somebody would tell Bernie and Jane and the rest of the Our Revolution eejits.

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Citizen K  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:00:40pm

re: #216 HappyWarrior

Did anyone tell Mitt Romney this? She has moved on. She’s allowed to endorse and campaign for people and she still got more votes than Bernie and Trump.

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wish somebody would tell Bernie and Jane and the rest of the Our Revolution eejits.

They’re laying the blame at her feet for her living rent-free in their heads as their personal boogeyman. THey won’t be satisfied until she’s erased from existence completely.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:00:55pm

re: #154 CleverToad

Just looked out the window.
It’s either snowing or it’s very small hail. My kid says it’s hail because snow doesn’t bounce.

On behalf of Denver, I apologize to you, Dangerman & Mrs. DM, for our lousy weather timing.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:00:59pm

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wish somebody would tell Bernie and Jane and the rest of the Our Revolution eejits.

And Bernie’s son who fucking thinks Dana Gunz is profound.

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TedStriker  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:02:01pm

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

Don’t know how many times I heard or read, “Hillary Clinton should step off-stage”….I mean folks, the woman’s giving paid speeches in other continents, signing books at Costco, being a grandma, foraging for mushrooms in woods of Chappaqua. Where should she step-off to… Mars?

— Ana Navarro (@ananavarro) March 28, 2018

Let’s face it…if Hillary were to keel over dead tonight, people would still blame her for all of the Democrats’ ills (real or imagined) until the heat death of the universe.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:02:14pm
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KGxvi  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:03:14pm

re: #206 HappyWarrior

I see he’s admitted he wants a politicized USSC.

The Supreme Court, to a varying degrees, has always been political in nature. There’s a reason Adams appointed Marshall at the last minute. There’s a reason why FDR threatened to pack the Court. There’s a reason why there’s a myth that Eisenhower allegedly called Warren’s appoint his greatest mistake. There’s a reason why, every four years, we hear about how this is the most important election of our lifetimes because the Supreme Court hangs in the balance.

The Court, because it is reactionary (in the sense that it doesn’t seek out issues but rather has cases brought to it), tends to have to consider the far reaching impacts of its decisions. Unlike Congress, which can pass “fix it” bills to correct issues that arise from new laws, the Court can’t just go back the following term and say “oh, that’s not what we meant.” In that way, to paraphrase Sotomayor, the courts are a place where policy is crafted.

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Citizen K  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:03:24pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:03:32pm
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Kragar  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:04:20pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:04:44pm

re: #225 Stanley Sea

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Tomorrow, Twitter”s gonna be LIT!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:05:56pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:06:01pm

re: #213 Citizen K

Shame since I actually really liked his Doctor.

So did I, and I thought it was weak to burn through one of the few remaining regenerations for one season. Not that that matters anymore.

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KGxvi  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:06:30pm

re: #213 Citizen K

Shame since I actually really liked his Doctor.

Me too, part of me kind of wishes they’d bring him back for a run that happens in those few seconds of Rose where the TARDIS disappears and then reappears and he steps and says “did I mention it’s a time machine?” I love the idea that he spent 100 years running around the universe and then was like “oh, wait, I should go back…”

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BeachDem  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:07:22pm

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wish somebody would tell Bernie and Jane and the rest of the Our Revolution eejits.

Well, except that Nina Turner has nowhere to move on to. She’s burned all of her bridges, and they were kinda rickety bridges to begin with. (And remember, Jane, that bastion of political knowledge, recommended that people contact their senators to oppose Bolton’s nomination, even though he didn’t need Senate confirmation.) Yeah—they’ve all already risen to their levels of incompetence.

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TedStriker  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:07:50pm

re: #224 Citizen K

Donations to the NRA tripled after the Parkland shooting

Because of course they would…

Hardcore ammosexuals girding the NRA’s loins for the fight we know is coming in Congress, because they know they’re fucking getting shellacked in the court of public opinion.

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Kragar  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:08:28pm

re: #230 KGxvi

They could have a whole series with the final moments being him meeting Rose for the first time

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:08:33pm

re: #218 Citizen K

They’re laying the blame at her feet for her living rent-free in their heads as their personal boogeyman. THey won’t be satisfied until she’s erased from existence completely.

They need Clinton. If she was gone who would they run against? Pelosi? Their actual Democratic opponent?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:09:12pm
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TedStriker  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:09:22pm

re: #231 BeachDem

Well, except that Nina Turner has nowhere to move on to. She’s burned all of her bridges, and they were kinda rickety bridges to begin with. (And remember, Jane, that bastion of political knowledge, recommended that people contact their senators to oppose Bolton’s nomination, even though he didn’t need Senate confirmation.) Yeah—they’ve all already risen to their levels of incompetence.

Speaking of Jane, isn’t her ass in some major hot water in regards to the college she ran?

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scottslemmons  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:10:31pm

My condolences to Ronny Jackson, who will probably be moving into his new home in one of our nation’s federal penitentiaries in 4-10 years.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:10:48pm

re: #234 Big Beautiful Door

They need Clinton. If she was gone who would they run against? Pelosi? Their actual Democratic opponent?

Pelosi. Elizabeth Warren. Susan Rice. Kamala Harris. The last two are twofers.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:10:59pm

re: #231 BeachDem

Well, except that Nina Turner has nowhere to move on to. She’s burned all of her bridges, and they were kinda rickety bridges to begin with. (And remember, Jane, that bastion of political knowledge, recommended that people contact their senators to oppose Bolton’s nomination, even though he didn’t need Senate confirmation.) Yeah—they’ve all already risen to their levels of incompetence.

I was shocked Jane said that. Brain farts happen to the best of us but Bernie is on his fourth President.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:11:33pm

re: #238 Blind Frog Belly White

Pelosi. Elizabeth Warren. Susan Rice. Kamala Harris. The last two are twofers.

They hate Harris so much.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:12:13pm

1. I haven’t seen a Valpak in years
2. Fucking typical

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KGxvi  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:12:46pm

re: #233 Kragar

They could have a whole series with the final moments being him meeting Rose for the first time

That’s true too, we don’t know how much time passed between the end of The Day of the Doctor and Rose. So many things they could do with him, especially since the original show runners that he had issues with have moved on.

But I also remember reading a long while back that he only wanted to do one season because he wasn’t sure the revived show would work out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:13:09pm
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KGxvi  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:14:10pm

re: #241 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

1. I haven’t seen a Valpak in years
2. Fucking typical

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I get them occasionally but rarely open them. Guess I’m going to have to start checking them.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:14:37pm

re: #238 Blind Frog Belly White

Pelosi. Elizabeth Warren. Susan Rice. Kamala Harris. The last two are twofers.

None of them have the same level of name recognition or hatred as Clinton, not even close. That’s why they need her.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:15:45pm

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wingnut I saw mocked one of the performers for having an arrest for a gun. You’d think that’d make him realize they’re not anti second but naaah.

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BeachDem  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:15:50pm

re: #236 TedStriker

Speaking of Jane, isn’t her ass in some major hot water in regards to the college she ran?

From January (I’m too lazy to do an in-depth search right now)

Jane Sanders, former Burlington College president and wife of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.), remains in the spotlight as a federal probe continues into a 2010 land purchase she orchestrated that left the college in significant debt and has been cited as the proximate reason for its closure.

freebeacon.com

And his kids are equally awful:

nymag.com

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:17:25pm

re: #245 Big Beautiful Door

None of them have the same level of name recognition or hatred as Clinton, not even close. That’s why they need her.

They’ll find a new chew toy. Dinesh will have an awful documentary and Corsi an awful book and wingnuts will swear by it just like they think HRC/Michelle are awful.

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Skip Intro  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:17:28pm

re: #85 Belafon

newsweek.com

Joe Arpaio Found Out He Admitted Guilt With Trump Pardon On Live TV

The last I heard Arpaio was trying to get his conviction overturned because the pardon shows he didn’t do anything wrong. If anyone is up to date on this I’d like to hear about it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:17:54pm

re: #245 Big Beautiful Door

None of them have the same level of name recognition or hatred as Clinton, not even close. That’s why they need her.

But since she’s not running for anything and is maintaining a pretty damn low profile, they’re focusing on Pelosi.

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BeachDem  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:18:29pm

re: #244 KGxvi

I get them occasionally but rarely open them. Guess I’m going to have to start checking them.

I get them every month and look through the coupons—thus far, no checks. (sad face)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:21:06pm

what CindyLou said^^

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Sea Mexican!  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:21:16pm

re: #76 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I used to be driven to respond to emails instantaneously, in the name of “being a good consultant/employee” and trying to provide good customer service. After an incident which ended in a work-related phone call as Mrs. Fish and I were supposed to be getting dressed up to go out for our wedding anniversary on a Saturday night, I started modifying that expectation. Nowadays, I’m perfectly comfortable with leaving emails for the next morning - if you can’t get it to me by the time I leave the office, it’s clearly not important. Work stops when I climb into my car.

It depends a lot on the sender. Some senders are very conscious, and only email/call on emergencies. Others … there’s a reason I am now picky about who I give my phone.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:21:38pm

re: #241 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

1. I haven’t seen a Valpak in years
2. Fucking typical

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Hmmm — I just threw out an unopened valpak into the trash. I guess I better retrieve it!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:22:02pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:22:39pm

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

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what CindyLou said^^

Yeah, that seems to be arguing not so much that it would be bad for women to do that, but rather that it would be inconvenient.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:22:57pm

re: #252 Backwoods_Sleuth

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what CindyLou said^^

I liked Jordan better when he was the Ayatollah.

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KGxvi  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:23:34pm

re: #249 Skip Intro

The last I heard Arpaio was trying to get his conviction overturned because the pardon shows he didn’t do anything wrong. If anyone is up to date on this I’d like to hear about it.

I hate being on the same side as Arpaio, but it was an unconditional pardon and the issue of whether one admits guilt in an unconditional pardon is not settled law.

Imagine a bad jury convicts someone on questionable evidence. Appeals are exhausted and based on previous case law the appellate courts can’t displace the decision of the jury, even though most judges find the evidence questionable at best. A president could then step in and say that it was a miscarriage of justice and pardon the defendant. It would be another miscarriage of justice to tell someone wrongfully convicted that they still must admit guilt in order to accept the pardon.

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gocart mozart  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:24:09pm

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:24:13pm

re: #253 Sea Mexican!

It depends a lot on the sender. Some senders are very conscious, and only email/call on emergencies. Others … there’s a reason I am now picky about who I give my phone.

I stopped putting my cell phone number in my email signature, putting in only my office phone number, to prevent such abuses in the future.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:24:59pm
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freetoken  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:28:12pm

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

“The Western Journal” is the rebranded “Western Journalism”: en.wikipedia.org .

It is an outlet for the repugnant Floyd Brown:
en.wikipedia.org

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Skip Intro  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:29:30pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

Do even know the reason why Shulkin was let go? Not going to buy the money scandal given Carson is still employed.

He didn’t look good on TV.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:29:30pm

re: #262 freetoken

“The Western Journal” is the rebranded “Western Journalism”: en.wikipedia.org .

It is an outlet for the repugnant Floyd Brown:
en.wikipedia.org

yep. I already knew that, and she quickly figured it out for herself.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:29:42pm

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is he going to ask for Patton to be Sec of Dec next time he watches Patton?

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:30:04pm

re: #263 Skip Intro

He didn’t look good on TV.

Yeah I’m seeing that now.

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KGxvi  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:31:11pm

re: #265 HappyWarrior

Is he going to ask for Patton to be Sec of Dec next time he watches Patton?

Scarface is coming to Netflix this weekend, better not let him watch it, he might try to end Wet foot/Dry Foot

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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:31:50pm

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freetoken  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:31:58pm

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep. I already knew that, and she quickly figured it out for herself.

Many of the younger people getting into activism or journalism perhaps don’t realize that the current hate-mongers have 60 year old roots that one can trace all the way back to The Birch Society and McCarthyism.

The toxic brew that is now the hate right is the culinary work of vile chefs who have been at this for a long time.

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Sea Mexican!  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:32:38pm

re: #267 KGxvi

Scarface is coming to Netflix this weekend, better not let him watch it, he might try to end Wet foot/Dry Foot

Didn’t Obama end/modify that policy?

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:34:21pm

re: #260 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I stopped putting my cell phone number in my email signature, putting in only my office phone number, to prevent such abuses in the future.

I’m in the telephone book (and my telephone number is on the door of the village hall), so theoretically I could be called by anyone in town. My publishing company has my phone number, but never calls me. (They correspond by letter normally, or E-mail if it’s urgent.)

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:35:45pm

re: #269 freetoken

Many of the younger people getting into activism or journalism perhaps don’t realize that the current hate-mongers have 60 year old roots that one can trace all the way back to The Birch Society and McCarthyism.

The toxic brew that is now the hate right is the culinary work of vile chefs who have been at this for a long time.

Buckley. A Jim Crow and McCarthy apologizing jerk.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:36:54pm

re: #269 freetoken

Many of the younger people getting into activism or journalism perhaps don’t realize that the current hate-mongers have 60 year old roots that one can trace all the way back to The Birch Society and McCarthyism.

The toxic brew that is now the hate right is the culinary work of vile chefs who have been at this for a long time.

That’s why those of us who have also been at this for a long time on the other side should be here to aid and offer advice if needed so they can be made aware of the people involved in this sort of thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:37:17pm
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KGxvi  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:37:25pm

re: #270 Sea Mexican!

Didn’t Obama end/modify that policy?

Ah, apparently he did, didn’t realize that was part of the Thaw.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:39:37pm

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wow. The courts just gave Walker a thunderous, “Fuck you.” I like it. No - I LOVE it.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:39:51pm

thread

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:42:42pm

re: #276 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Now how long until the WI state legislature moves to impeach these judges?

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stpaulbear  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:45:26pm

re: #98 ObserverArt

Shulkin out at VA.

Donny just tweeted he will be replaced with Rear Admiral Ronnie L. Jackson.

Remember Ronnie…he is the Doc that said Trump was in pretty good shape but needed to lose a little weight in his official physical.

Trump was impressed when Ronnie told him to drop trou and turn around.

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Skip Intro  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:45:31pm

re: #278 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Now how long until the WI state legislature moves to impeach these judges?

Waiting for orders from the Kochs.

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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:46:44pm

re: #14 Kragar

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gocart mozart  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:47:38pm
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BeachDem  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:48:51pm

re: #277 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

thread

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And speaking of unqualified yam appointees—exhibit infinity, Nikki Haley!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:49:29pm

re: #283 BeachDem

And speaking of unqualified yam appointees—exhibit infinity, Nikki Haley!

She wasn’t unqualified - wasn’t she sleeping with somebody?

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Skip Intro  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:50:20pm

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Stanley Sea  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:51:10pm
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BeachDem  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:51:46pm

re: #284 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

She wasn’t unqualified - wasn’t she sleeping with somebody?

Rumor was she was sleeping with many people, but I don’t buy that she was sleeping with the yam.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:52:47pm

re: #284 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

She wasn’t unqualified - wasn’t she sleeping with somebody?

“There was no sleeping going on here!”

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:55:07pm
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BeachDem  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:55:23pm

This made me laugh (or cry.) WaPo had an article about Corey Feldman saying he was STABBED by somebody who just reached into his car at an intersection and that it’s all part of an evil plot against him, although the police said there was no stab wound etc. Anyway, the article had multiple tweets from Feldman that he sent yesterday, pics of him in the hospital etc. and then one of the comments says:

Which Corey committed suicide, this guy or the other Corey?

Duh.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 28, 2018 • 4:55:25pm

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Now if people in WI will actually vote…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:03:30pm

re: #287 BeachDem

Rumor was she was sleeping with many people, but I don’t buy that she was sleeping with the yam.

Wasn’t meaning to imply Trump - simply that in a Trump-like administration, sleeping your way into power is absolutely a thing.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:03:41pm

re: #291 GlutenFreeJesus

Now if people in WI actually vote…

Scott Walker has made sure that they cannot.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:10:18pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:11:48pm
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Patricia Kayden  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:17:07pm

re: #294 Anymouse 🌹

Misogyny is real. I’ve never heard such comments directed at male politicians. Romney is running for the US Senate in Utah and I’ve yet to read about him needing to step off the public stage. This is disgusting harassment of an accomplished and dynamic woman. It needs to freaking stop.

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CleverToad  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:19:58pm

re: #219 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yep, that’s my town. Down to just a steady light snow now, most of it melting on contact.
It’s wet. I’ll take it.

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JordanRules  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:20:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:22:43pm
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Eventual Carrion  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:26:46pm

re: #224 Citizen K

Donations to the NRA tripled after the Parkland shooting

Because of course they would…

All in rubles.

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whitebeach  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:27:53pm

re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]”If you had a choice between Rikers Island and Club Fed, which would you pick?”

Rikers is just a city/county jail. The real choice is between Club Fed and someplace like Attica or Ossining.

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ObserverArt  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:29:10pm

re: #231 BeachDem

Well, except that Nina Turner has nowhere to move on to. She’s burned all of her bridges, and they were kinda rickety bridges to begin with. (And remember, Jane, that bastion of political knowledge, recommended that people contact their senators to oppose Bolton’s nomination, even though he didn’t need Senate confirmation.) Yeah—they’ve all already risen to their levels of incompetence.

Nina can move out of Ohio. I’d settle for that.

I recommend Vermont…see how she likes it.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:32:03pm

Totally OT, but my child’s clarinet teacher today said “he’s doing great at improvisation, but if he keeps playing with CDs he’ll just play variations on the solos. You should get Band in a Box. It will allow him to create segments of songs in different styles with bass, guitar and drums, and he can loop it to practice over and over.”

Anyone have any experience with Band in a Box? I’m looking at the cheapest version for Mac (2017 for $100). Better (cheaper) alternatives?

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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:37:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:38:08pm
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Jay C  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:39:26pm

re: #278 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Now how long until the WI state legislature moves to impeach these judges?

Won’t they have to wait until after they pass a law leaving special elections up to the Gov’s discretion, like Walker wanted (and never mind that the election provision is in the WI Constitution)? Or did the court ruling put the kibosh on that little scheme as well?

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Charles Johnson  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:40:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:40:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:41:12pm

re: #307 Charles Johnson

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because these really are not smart people

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whitebeach  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:41:19pm

re: #303 Barefoot Grin

Totally OT, but my child’s clarinet teacher today said “he’s doing great at improvisation, but if he keeps playing with CDs he’ll just play variations on the solos. You should get Band in a Box. It will allow him to create segments of songs in different styles with bass, guitar and drums, and he can loop it to practice over and over.”

Anyone have any experience with Band in a Box? I’m looking at the cheapest version for Mac (2017 for $100). Better (cheaper) alternatives?

Oh gosh, BG, I’m going out on a limb here because I don’t know a thing about Band in a Box or any of that. But I did play a little back in the day and my brother was a pro musician for twelve or fourteen years, and still does gigs now and then. And what I would suggest is to get the kid around real live musicians playing real live music as much as possible. If I had a boy who played an instrument like clarinet, I’d take him to Preservation Hall every chance I got.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:41:29pm

re: #306 Jay C

Won’t they have to wait until after they pass a law leaving special elections up to the Gov’s discretion, like Walker wanted (and never mind that the election provision is in the WI Constitution)? Or did the court ruling put the kibosh on that little scheme as well?

Walker was trying to go to court in order to get an emergency stay pending the passing of that law. These decisions basically amounted to the court saying, “We’re not going to let you tie this up with your bullshit legislation and the related court challenges, just hold the goddamn elections.”

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ObserverArt  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:43:09pm

re: #288 GlutenFreeJesus

“There was no sleeping going on here!”

Nod nod, wink wink!

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:43:58pm

The only hope for this country is for every Republican to be voted out of office, starting with Wisconsin.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:44:35pm

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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:48:15pm

re: #314 The Vicious Babushka

There’s been a lot of incompetent lawyers being incompetent in the Fuckface Von Clownstick orbit.

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JordanRules  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:49:16pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:49:54pm

re: #296 Patricia Kayden

Misogyny is real. I’ve never heard such comments directed at male politicians. Romney is running for the US Senate in Utah and I’ve yet to read about him needing to step off the public stage. This is disgusting harassment of an accomplished and dynamic woman. It needs to freaking stop.

I am so tired of men, even some who voted for Hillary, disparaging her. One friend, a Bernie supporter who hates Trump but predicted he would win, and who did vote for Hillary, felt that Hillary was great in small intimate settings, but that when she was on a large stage, her warmth did not come through and she seemed stiff and not personable. He thought she would have done better if somehow she could have been seen more frequently in more personal settings.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:51:49pm
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Sea Mexican!  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:54:15pm

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:56:11pm

LOL, good thing all of those dudebros have unending good will towards you for harboring the fugitive Assange this long.

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JordanRules  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:57:19pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:57:22pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:57:49pm

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 5:59:34pm

re: #320 bill d. (b.d.)

LOL, good thing all of those dudebros have unending good will towards you for harboring the fugitive Assange this long.

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Yawn Glenn you can do better than that.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:00:20pm

re: #322 teleskiguy

I found one of those, full of weed, in a hotel parking lot in Reno. That was a good weekend.

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ObserverArt  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:00:46pm

re: #322 teleskiguy

Charlie Vogel, aka His Teleness the Charlie Lama
@teleskiguy
Weed jar.

8:57 PM - Mar 28, 2018

But only after you shot the roll of film for photography class in art school!

What?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:00:57pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:01:55pm

re: #325 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I found one of those, full of weed, in a hotel parking lot in Reno. That was a good weekend.

My father-in-law, apparently, used them for storing the hex-drive tips for universal screwdrivers. I have a couple of them in my kitchen drawer.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:02:05pm

lol, I’m ded, this kilt me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:02:40pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:03:40pm

re: #322 teleskiguy

And I still have a couple of them too. :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:04:09pm

re: #307 Charles Johnson

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:04:32pm

re: #329 bill d. (b.d.)

lol, I’m ded, this kilt me.

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Glenn do you ever shut the fuck up? Who the HELL are you to tell Ecuador’s government what to do? See. I can play pedantic asshole too.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:04:59pm

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Then it’s not valid and she can talk about whatever she wants including Trump’s err little hands.

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Single-handed sailor  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:05:04pm

re: #322 teleskiguy

Those were Film Can 2.0

Original was an aluminum screw top can.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:05:34pm

re: #333 HappyWarrior

Glenn do you ever shut the fuck up? Who the HELL are you to tell Ecuador’s government what to do? See. I can play pedantic asshole too.

He’s Glenn Fucking Greenwald, world’s greatest journalist. Didn’t you get the memo?

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TedStriker  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:05:38pm

re: #325 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I found one of those, full of weed, in a hotel parking lot in Reno. That was a good weekend.

You’re so lucky it didn’t end up like this:

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:05:43pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:06:24pm

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

Daaaaaaaaamn, girl, that’s cold.

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guachi  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:07:09pm

re: #317 Hecuba’s daughter

I am so tired of men, even some who voted for Hillary, disparaging her. One friend, a Bernie supporter who hates Trump but predicted he would win, and who did vote for Hillary, felt that Hillary was great in small intimate settings, but that when she was on a large stage, her warmth did not come through and she seemed stiff and not personable. He thought she would have done better if somehow she could have been seen more frequently in more personal settings.

I saw Hillary in South Carolina before the primary in 2016. What your friend said is true. The setting was small, a grade school gymnasium. But the contrast between her stump speech and answering questions from the crowd was night and day. She was fantastic in the Q&A and equally fantastic staying behind to let people take pictures with her.

My mom, who donated to Hillary in 2008 turned on her in 2016 like she had bought all the Fox propaganda despite never watching Fox. She was too ambitious, had no integrity, emails!, etc. Mom claims she’s a Democrat but would have voted for Kasich instead.

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MsJ  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:07:50pm

re: #319 Sea Mexican!

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William Lewis  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:09:21pm

re: #322 teleskiguy

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Memories in gelatin & silver halides spread on a clear plastic base…

Tri-X, Plus-X, Pan-F, wet hands, running water & the smell of fixer in the middle of the kitchen.

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Jay C  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:10:23pm

re: #339 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Daaaaaaaaamn, girl, that’s cold.

Sen. Duckworth’s legs may be metal, but she can certainly kick ass with them when necessary…

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:11:22pm

re: #343 Jay C

Sen. Baldwin’s legs may be metal, but she can certainly kick ass with them when necessary…

You mean Duckworth — not Baldwin.

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TedStriker  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:11:32pm

re: #343 Jay C

Sen. Duckworth’s legs may be metal, but she can certainly kick ass with them when necessary…

I, for one, welcome our cyborg Senator overlord….

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MsJ  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:11:41pm

re: #307 Charles Johnson

Renato is expecting a moron to not do moronic things.

Trump is like the scorpion… It’s in his nature. He simply cannot not be a moron.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:13:14pm

You move it to the right, yeah
You go for yourself
You move it further right
Yeah if it takes all night
Now take it kinda numb
With a whole lot of dumb
Slap me with Forbes really fast
And make it last
You lie just like Fox News
Yeah you do real cool
I slide it to that bimbo
Yeah how low can Stormy go?
Now come on baby
Don’t fall down on me now
Just move it right here
To the DC shuffle
Yeah yeah yeah to the DC shuffle
Yeah yeah yeah to the DC shuffle

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Jay C  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:13:16pm

re: #344 Hecuba’s daughter

You mean Duckworth — not Baldwin.

Yep, sorry: wrong Tammy.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:13:38pm

re: #346 MsJ

Renato is expecting a moron to not do moronic things.

Trump is like the scorpion… It’s in his nature. He simply cannot not be a moron.

Except it is Cohen, the attorney, who made these statements not Trump. So Cohen is a moron.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:16:05pm

re: #314 The Vicious Babushka

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whitebeach  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:19:32pm

re: #342 William Lewis

Memories in gelatin & silver halides spread on a clear plastic base…

Tri-X, Plus-X, Pan-F, wet hands, running water & the smell of fixer in the middle of the kitchen.

Been there.

I remember sitting around the studio with my two photographer mates talking about the future of digital. Two of us were reasonably computer savvy and could see that it was only gonna get bigger, better, and cheaper fast. Very fast.

RIP Kodak. I forget who the writer was, but he or she hit the nail on the head: All those years, Kodak thought they were in the film business, but they could have survived and prospered if they’d ever realized that they were actually in the image business.

ETA: The conversation with my pals was back in the 80’s.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:19:51pm

re: #314 The Vicious Babushka

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thecommodore  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:20:32pm

Today’s Hannity bombshell is also today’s daily dose of derp.

COLLUSION DELUSION: New Documents Show OBAMA Officials, FBI COORDINATED in Anti-Trump Probe

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TedStriker  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:20:37pm

re: #349 Hecuba’s daughter

Except it is Cohen, the attorney, who made these statements not Trump. So Cohen is a moron.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:21:30pm

re: #351 whitebeach

Dad shot thousands of pictures. Eventually he put all of the slides in a big plastic bag. It took my sister a year to put the slides in order.

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Sea Mexican!  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:21:37pm

re: #275 KGxvi

Ah, apparently he did, didn’t realize that was part of the Thaw.

What could happen is the reverse, reinstating the policy …

Nah, it won’t happen.

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MsJ  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:23:10pm

re: #335 Single-handed sailor

Those were Film Can 2.0

Original was an aluminum screw top can.

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That would make a better dope holder. The lid wouldn’t pop off.

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Sea Mexican!  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:23:39pm

re: #307 Charles Johnson

The Nunberg defense: claim something so outrageously illegal to get protection from an even bigger problem?

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:25:42pm

re: #314 The Vicious Babushka

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MsJ  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:28:31pm

re: #349 Hecuba’s daughter

Except it is Cohen, the attorney, who made these statements not Trump. So Cohen is a moron.

Everyone Trump’s circle are morons. It applies to every last one. They either buy their way out of shit, built their way out, or lie their way out.

I’m looking forward to the lot of them being locked up. We’ll all be safer.

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plansbandc  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:30:30pm

re: #213 Citizen K

I still feel robbed we didn’t get a second series with 9. He’s a great Doctor.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:31:51pm

re: #310 whitebeach

Oh gosh, BG, I’m going out on a limb here because I don’t know a thing about Band in a Box or any of that. But I did play a little back in the day and my brother was a pro musician for twelve or fourteen years, and still does gigs now and then. And what I would suggest is to get the kid around real live musicians playing real live music as much as possible. If I had a boy who played an instrument like clarinet, I’d take him to Preservation Hall every chance I got.

That’s what my wife said, wb. Why not do it the old fashioned way? But I can see some use for loops for practice.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:32:17pm
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MsJ  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:35:24pm
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Belafon  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:36:45pm

re: #310 whitebeach

Oh gosh, BG, I’m going out on a limb here because I don’t know a thing about Band in a Box or any of that. But I did play a little back in the day and my brother was a pro musician for twelve or fourteen years, and still does gigs now and then. And what I would suggest is to get the kid around real live musicians playing real live music as much as possible. If I had a boy who played an instrument like clarinet, I’d take him to Preservation Hall every chance I got.

It’s the “as much as possible” that tends to be the problem. That’s why I’ve been trying to find online stuff for my son to learn from and listen to.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:37:50pm
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Belafon  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:39:45pm
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JordanRules  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:42:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:45:08pm

jeebus…I really miss having grownups in charge

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:46:22pm

re: #361 plansbandc

I still feel robbed we didn’t get a second series with 9. He’s a great Doctor.

I really loved him too and was disappointed that he vanished after a single year

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:46:29pm

re: #369 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus…I really miss having grownups in charge

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Soon. Not anywhere near soon enough, but soon.

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Citizen K  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:47:15pm

re: #361 plansbandc

I still feel robbed we didn’t get a second series with 9. He’s a great Doctor.

re: #370 Hecuba’s daughter

I really loved him too and was disappointed that he vanished after a single year

“What are you, Coward or Killer?!”

“…coward. Any day.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:48:31pm

re: #370 Hecuba’s daughter

I really loved him too and was disappointed that he vanished after a single year

The thing is, he wasn’t really all that into Doctor Who in the first place. I loved him, he was my first Doctor, he was brilliant, but I understand why he didn’t really engage with the role and why he didn’t stay long. I’m just glad he did such a great job that the series continued after he left.

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ObserverArt  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:49:21pm

re: #364 MsJ

Uppity Queen Bravenak Wonderbitch Powersnark
@BravenakBlog
You know, if you don’t want me to continue to make nicknames like, Branch Bernidians, Bernhovah’s Witnesses, The Talibern, Bern-Qaeda, or the Bernioneses Liberation Army….

Maybe you should stop acting like a fascist cult.

It only pisses you off because it’s true.

4:29 PM - Mar 28, 2018

I suggest she use this…

All Purpose Problematic Political Pain Relief - Works on both Those Berned and Those Berning.
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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:49:26pm

re: #367 Belafon

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Wtf is wrong with these people? Seek fucking help.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:50:25pm

re: #326 ObserverArt

But only after you shot the roll of film for photography class in art school!

What?

It’s where you put your quarters for the laundry.

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JordanRules  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:51:13pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:53:06pm

re: #340 guachi

I saw Hillary in South Carolina before the primary in 2016. What your friend said is true. The setting was small, a grade school gymnasium. But the contrast between her stump speech and answering questions from the crowd was night and day. She was fantastic in the Q&A and equally fantastic staying behind to let people take pictures with her.

My mom, who donated to Hillary in 2008 turned on her in 2016 like she had bought all the Fox propaganda despite never watching Fox. She was too ambitious, had no integrity, emails!, etc. Mom claims she’s a Democrat but would have voted for Kasich instead.

The problem is that women are treated differently from men. When Hillary was strong, the media criticized her as shrill. It may be just that we are handicapped by our vocal range. Of course, she was also mistreated by misogynists like Matt Lauer. And the MSM certainly attacked her in ways that they did not attack Trump.

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Citizen K  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:53:11pm

re: #377 JordanRules

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How is this asshole suddenly getting treated as the great new intellectual giant anyhow? I still simply don’t understand it. He’s re-treading the same old patriarchal bullshit that’s been served warmed over since at least women’s suffrage.

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Scout  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:53:24pm

I’m envious of you folks who like Doctor Who.

I generally enjoy science-fiction and am always looking for new content (novels, movies, etc.), but try as I might, I can never get into that show. For whatever reason, it just refuses to draw me in.

But on the topic of sci-fi, I highly recommend the “Culture” series of novels by Ian M. Banks. I’ve seen it described as “space opera for liberals.” I don’t know about that. All I know is that I love the series.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:54:49pm

re: #380 Scout

I have to admit, it’s a unique taste. I’ve met Whovians and non-Whovians and it’s really just a matter of what you look for in a sci-fi show. Doctor Who is whimsical and almost cartoonish and less of a space opera than a space comedy.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:55:22pm

re: #353 thecommodore

Today’s Hannity bombshell is also today’s daily dose of derp.

COLLUSION DELUSION: New Documents Show OBAMA Officials, FBI COORDINATED in Anti-Trump Probe

Yep I’m seeing that from my TL wingnuts.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:55:25pm

re: #350 Joe Bacon 🌹

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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:58:17pm

re: #383 The Vicious Babushka

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:59:24pm

Virginia Republican kicked out of party leadership after claiming only Christians are fit to hold public office.

washingtonpost.com

With Republicans in Virginia still reeling over a wave of Democratic victories in the fall, Burgos faced a backlash last month from party leaders when he posted a Facebook comment saying that only Christians are fit to run for office.

The comment was viewed as anti-Semitic because Burgos had been campaigning for Tim Hannigan in his successful bid over Mike Ginsberg, who is Jewish, to become the party’s committee chair in Fairfax County.

Burgos, who campaigned for Hannigan under a “Make Fairfax Great Again” motto, claimed his comments were taken out of context. He did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

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Barbara Comstock (R) also called for his ouster as she faces a tough reëlection bid.

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plansbandc  Mar 28, 2018 • 6:59:31pm

-Off Topic- Roseanne Reboot

So here’s the thing about the Roseanne reboot. I’m not really interested in supporting any artists who voted for/admire Republicans, let alone President Racist Grandpa. (That being said, my favorite singer performed at the RNC in 2012. It broke my heart, but I am still a big fan of his.) It’s problematic, to say the least. But I can and do on occasion support such artists. That’s not THE issue.

I loved the original show, I love a lot of the actors, especially Laurie Metcalf. I could ignore the Roseanne problem except—

The show is contributing to the normalization of Trump. I don’t care if you take the Roseanne character seriously, or you are laughing at her. Our so called President is getting a free infomercial and getting normalized with every minute he is mentioned on the show. That’s the problem. And that’s why I will not watch the show.

I find nothing funny about what’s happening in our country and I don’t need TV shows to impress upon viewers how cute and normal it is to support our so called President.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:00:24pm

re: #384 teleskiguy

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:00:35pm
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MsJ  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:00:57pm

re: #374 ObserverArt

Perfect. Absolutely perfect.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:01:18pm

re: #383 The Vicious Babushka

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:01:27pm

re: #386 plansbandc

Not much different than the New York Times’s “view from nowhere” about the Nazi next door is just a good guy. Mows his lawn, pays his taxes, calls for genocide… .

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:01:34pm

re: #385 Anymouse 🌹

Virginia Republican kicked out of party leadership after claiming only Christians are fit to hold public office.

washingtonpost.com

(more)

Barbara Comstock (R) also called for his ouster as she faces a tough reëlection bid.

And they wonder why they can’t win in Fairfax County anymore. Gee maybe because you have people like that in your party. Meanwhile NoVa Democrats are very diverse and inclusive.

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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:02:38pm

re: #387 The Vicious Babushka

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Belafon  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:03:00pm

re: #388 Backwoods_Sleuth

My wife would agree with the first tweet.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:03:04pm

re: #388 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They should show the bottom steak drenched in ketchup and label it TRUMP.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:04:06pm

re: #386 plansbandc

-Off Topic- Roseanne Reboot

So here’s the thing about the Roseanne reboot. I’m not really interested in supporting any artists who voted for/admire Republicans, let alone President Racist Grandpa. (That being said, my favorite singer performed at the RNC in 2012. It broke my heart, but I am still a big fan of his.) It’s problematic, to say the least. But I can and do on occasion support such artists. That’s not THE issue.

I loved the original show, I love a lot of the actors, especially Laurie Metcalf. I could ignore the Roseanne problem except—

The show is contributing to the normalization of Trump. I don’t care if you take the Roseanne character seriously, or you are laughing at her. Our so called President is getting a free infomercial and getting normalized with every minute he is mentioned on the show. That’s the problem. And that’s why I will not watch the show.

I find nothing funny about what’s happening in our country and I don’t need TV shows to impress upon viewers how cute and normal it is to support our so called President.

How did Roseanne go from a Green to a Trumper? I mean damn I believe in the circular spectrum too but still. What singer btw? I’m curious. It greatly annoyed me when I found out a baseball player I liked was a birther.

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Belafon  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:04:24pm

Because my wife likes hers not red, when I cooked tenderloin over Christmas, I could four groups: Put one set on, waited a few minutes, then added the second, waited a few minutes more, etc.

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William Lewis  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:05:01pm

re: #380 Scout

The “Culture” is great. I miss Banks greatly.

I’m also extremely fond of the Vorkosigan series of books by Louis McMasters Bujold. Exquisite stuff that ranges from military SF to romance (in a very classical sense - Georgette Heyer forex) to detective stories all with the same cast of characters, but the most important being a hyperactive git named Miles. By far my favorite series of books.

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scottslemmons  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:05:08pm

Off-topic: I’ve been trying to get into this Hearthstone card game Blizzard runs. I really, really want to play it and like it ‘cause there’s some elements of it I really like. The problem is playing against actual people. Playing against the training bots, I can handle that. But playing against a real person turns my anxiety level up too high.

Of course, the think I like the most is the endorphin rush you get from opening a new card pack, and the only ways to get those are to play against humans or to spend actual money on card packs, and I’m not (quite) dumb enough to spend money on cards in a computer game…

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:07:46pm

I’m amused by the same wingers who hated Roseanne for being a 9-11 CT nut job now adore her since she’s a Trumper.

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Jay C  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:08:40pm

re: #398 William Lewis

The “Culture” is great. I miss Banks greatly.

I’m also extremely fond of the Vorkosigan series of books by Louis McMasters Bujold. Exquisite stuff that ranges from military SF to romance (in a very classical sense - Georgette Heyer forex) to detective stories all with the same cast of characters, but the most important being a hyperactive git named Miles. By far my favorite series of books.

BTW, sci-fi writer Bujold is Lois, not Louis.

Dunno why, but I see her name mis-gendered a lot online: maybe spellcheck sexism?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:08:42pm

re: #399 scottslemmons

If it helps you feel any better, I have the same anxiety. I have never been good at PvP (player-vs-player) type games. Blizzard’s matchmaking system is pretty good, but it still triggers me every time I hover my mouse over the “Find game” button. (Or whatever it’s called in Hearthstone; I haven’t played in forever.) If you want, tag me in a PM and later I can follow up, if you’d like to link up over battle.net and we can play together. I haven’t played since it launched and I guarantee you can probably kick my ass.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:09:02pm

re: #385 Anymouse 🌹

Virginia Republican kicked out of party leadership after claiming only Christians are fit to hold public office.

washingtonpost.com

(more)

Barbara Comstock (R) also called for his ouster as she faces a tough reëlection bid.

These lovers of the Constitution.

US Constitution Article 6, Clause 3

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

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plansbandc  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:09:38pm

re: #400 HappyWarrior

As I said. Normalization and making it cool to like Trump. They are beside themselves with joy. It makes me want to vomit.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:09:57pm

re: #396 HappyWarrior

How did Roseanne go from a Green to a Trumper? I mean damn I believe in the circular spectrum too but still. What singer btw? I’m curious. It greatly annoyed me when I found out a baseball player I liked was a birther.

She’s a 9/11 Truther.

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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:10:02pm
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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:10:32pm

re: #404 plansbandc

As I said. Normalization and making it cool to like Trump. They are beside themselves with joy. It makes me want to vomit.

I hear ya.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:10:44pm

re: #368 JordanRules

Oklahoma state senate approved an array of state tax hikes to avert a teachers’ strike.

thehill.com

NBC News in Tulsa reported that the Senate approved a package to raise taxes on cigarettes, fuel, lodging and oil and gas production. The body approved the bill by a 36-10 vote.

The Oklahoma House already passed the plan, which is expected to produce roughly $450 million to fund teacher raises. The bill next heads to the governor for consideration.

Public school teachers had been planning a statewide strike in response to stagnating wages. Oklahoma teachers are reportedly among the lowest-paid in the nation.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:10:53pm

re: #405 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

She’s a 9/11 Truther.

Yes she is.

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scottslemmons  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:12:37pm

re: #402 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

If it helps you feel any better, I have the same anxiety. I have never been good at PvP (player-vs-player) type games. Blizzard’s matchmaking system is pretty good, but it still triggers me every time I hover my mouse over the “Find game” button. (Or whatever it’s called in Hearthstone; I haven’t played in forever.) If you want, tag me in a PM and later I can follow up, if you’d like to link up over battle.net and we can play together. I haven’t played since it launched and I guarantee you can probably kick my ass.

I’m not sure anything would help. Even playing against people I know in other games gets me nauseous. And you’re almost certainly better than I am. I played four games yesterday, lost three, and only won the one because the opponent conceded after four turns. I even get pulverized by the bots. :(

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:12:59pm

re: #409 HappyWarrior

Yes she is.

The Truthers of the 2003 era are now the Birthers/Trumpers of the current era. All that conspiracy shit tends to run along the same spectrum. See, for example, Alex Fuckface Jones.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:13:03pm

re: #406 teleskiguy

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:13:47pm

re: #396 HappyWarrior

Ultimately, if you choose your ego over everything else, you can switch positions entirely and feel no transition.

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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:14:06pm

re: #412 HappyWarrior

Chicago deep dish is pizza.//

Chicago deep dish is casserole. It is very delicious, though.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:15:02pm

re: #410 scottslemmons

I’m not sure anything would help. Even playing against people I know in other games gets me nauseous. And you’re almost certainly better than I am. I played four games yesterday, lost three, and only won the one because the opponent conceded after four turns. I even get pulverized by the bots. :(

Yeah, I do hear you on that first point. That’s actually why I stopped playing the game, because I would challenge my WoW friends (who were better than me) and the combination of anxiety and losing just killed the game for me. If you’re ever up for a game or a chat, feel free to drop me a line. Otherwise, I wish I could be of more help.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:15:05pm

I don’t get this whole “free range” thing.
But, after reading the article, it sure sounds a lot like “childhood”, as I remember it.

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TedStriker  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:15:38pm

re: #386 plansbandc

-Off Topic- Roseanne Reboot

So here’s the thing about the Roseanne reboot. I’m not really interested in supporting any artists who voted for/admire Republicans, let alone President Racist Grandpa. (That being said, my favorite singer performed at the RNC in 2012. It broke my heart, but I am still a big fan of his.) It’s problematic, to say the least. But I can and do on occasion support such artists. That’s not THE issue.

I loved the original show, I love a lot of the actors, especially Laurie Metcalf. I could ignore the Roseanne problem except—

The show is contributing to the normalization of Trump. I don’t care if you take the Roseanne character seriously, or you are laughing at her. Our so called President is getting a free infomercial and getting normalized with every minute he is mentioned on the show. That’s the problem. And that’s why I will not watch the show.

I find nothing funny about what’s happening in our country and I don’t need TV shows to impress upon viewers how cute and normal it is to support our so called President.

You know, in the first episode, neither Trump nor Hillary were ever mentioned by name and Jill Stein (the only one who was mentioned by name) became a punchline on national TV. After that, nothing else political was said in the rest of the first episode or in the entirety of the second episode, it was just standard Roseanne.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:16:22pm

re: #403 Eventual Carrion

These lovers of the Constitution.

US Constitution Article 6, Clause 3

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

When I was first prepared to take up my seat on my village board after the special election, I sent a query to the county prosecutor/attorney asking about the clause in the Nebraska constitution that requires swearing an oath to God to take up a public office, noting I am an atheist (though I think he knew that already). He inquired of the state attorney general, who issued what amounted to a “special dispensation” to me to make an affirmation of office instead of an oath.

(I was prepared to sue if I was denied my rightful seat on religious grounds.)

The issue didn’t come up again when I was reëlected. (I wondered how Ernie Chambers got around that issue in the state constitution … probably the same sort of query.)

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:16:38pm

re: #411 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The Truthers of the 2003 era are now the Birthers/Trumpers of the current era. All that conspiracy shit tends to run along the same spectrum. See, for example, Alex Fuckface Jones.

Too true. I love how Jones has gone from fearing everything the President does to kissing his ass.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:17:01pm

re: #414 teleskiguy

Chicago deep dish is casserole. It is very delicious, though.

I was just trying to start a fight heh.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:18:56pm

re: #416 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I don’t get this whole “free range” thing.
But, after reading the article, it sure sounds a lot like “childhood”, as I remember it.

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Yeah it sounds pretty standard. I walked to high school as a kid. Knew people who walked in grade school too.

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The Vicious Babushka  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:19:14pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:19:33pm

re: #416 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I don’t get this whole “free range” thing.
But, after reading the article, it sure sounds a lot like “childhood”, as I remember it.

It is the backlash against the “stranger danger” issues where conservatives were convinced someone was lurking to kidnap your child and you have to watch him or her all the time (see also helicopter parents).

“Free range child” movements are simply pushing for children to be allowed to be children as we were.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:20:07pm

re: #422 The Vicious Babushka

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What are Co-conspirators, Alex?

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plansbandc  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:20:09pm

re: #396 HappyWarrior

Taylor Hicks. I’ve gone to see him from coast to coast. He’s a jam band kind of guy, trapped in an American Idol typecast. I refer to him and his band as the Grateful Dead for old ladies. :D As a matter of fact my uber fan world and Teleskiguy’s uber fan world have collided because he’s jammed on stage with Umphrey’s McGee a few times. And with Panic too. Taylor is a huge fan of both bands and a Deadhead too.

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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:20:15pm

re: #417 TedStriker

I remember my parents really liking the original iteration of “Roseanne.” I didn’t quite get it, maybe because I was young and cartoons were cooler than adults and teenagers talking. In this new incarnation do they still do the title sequence where they’re all playing poker at the kitchen table and Roseanne wins?

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William Lewis  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:20:46pm

re: #401 Jay C

BTW, sci-fi writer Bujold is Lois, not Louis.

Dunno why, but I see her name mis-gendered a lot online: maybe spellcheck sexism?

grumble spellcheck. Didn’t notice and I do know better.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:23:14pm

re: #425 plansbandc

Taylor Hicks. I’ve gone to see him from coast to coast. He’s a jam band kind of guy, trapped in an American Idol typecast. I refer to him and his band as the Grateful Dead for old ladies. :D As a matter of fact my uber fan world and Teleskiguy’s uber fan world have collided because he’s jammed on stage with Umphrey’s McGee a few times. And with Panic too.

Ahhh. I didn’t know he played at the RNC that year. At least he’s not a dingus like Nugent.

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TedStriker  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:23:17pm

re: #426 teleskiguy

I remember my parents really liking the original iteration of “Roseanne.” I didn’t quite get it, maybe because I was young and cartoons were cooler than adults and teenagers talking. In this new incarnation do they still do the title sequence where they’re all playing poker at the kitchen table and Roseanne wins?

Yes, sorta; it’s not poker, but it’s all of them around the kitchen table with the grandkids.

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plansbandc  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:23:52pm

re: #417 TedStriker

I won’t be watching to see what happens next, but my guess is more pro Trump BS, especially since the ratings are massive right now.

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scottslemmons  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:24:10pm

re: #415 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yeah, I do hear you on that first point. That’s actually why I stopped playing the game, because I would challenge my WoW friends (who were better than me) and the combination of anxiety and losing just killed the game for me. If you’re ever up for a game or a chat, feel free to drop me a line. Otherwise, I wish I could be of more help.

I do appreciate it. I’ve always been a solitary gamer by nature, aside from the rare team-ups in City of Heroes, where we were all working toward the same goals… :)

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plansbandc  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:25:34pm

re: #428 HappyWarrior

He blew up his fanbase by performing at the RNC. I asked him about it and he basically said it was a paycheck. But that bothered me a lot too. And he appeared on the apprentice, so he knows Dotard. Sigh.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:25:49pm

re: #431 scottslemmons

I do appreciate it. I’ve always been a solitary gamer by nature, aside from the rare team-ups in City of Heroes, where we were all working toward the same goals… :)

That’s actually why I stuck so long with World of Warcraft (over 10 years!); I wasn’t forced into fighting other players, and when we did group up, it was a cooperative effort for dungeons/raids. I am passably skilled at first-person shooters, but I would die before I’d show up at a Halo or Call of Duty tournament. My anxiety would kill me.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:28:26pm

re: #432 plansbandc

He blew up his fanbase by performing at the RNC. I asked him about it and he basically said it was a paycheck. But that bothered me a lot too. And he appeared on the apprentice, so he knows Dotard. Sigh.

Yeah not like he needs the dough. Most of the musicians I like if I had to guess aren’t Trump or conservative types. I’ve never refused to listen or watch someone over politics but I have thought less of them.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:31:28pm

re: #419 HappyWarrior

Too true. I love how Jones has gone from fearing everything the President does to kissing his ass.

IOKIYAR

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Mattand  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:32:15pm

re: #418 Anymouse 🌹

When I was first prepared to take up my seat on my village board after the special election, I sent a query to the county prosecutor/attorney asking about the clause in the Nebraska constitution that requires swearing an oath to God to take up a public office, noting I am an atheist (though I think he knew that already). He inquired of the state attorney general, who issued what amounted to a “special dispensation” to me to make an affirmation of office instead of an oath.

(I was prepared to sue if I was denied my rightful seat on religious grounds.)

The issue didn’t come up again when I was reëlected. (I wondered how Ernie Chambers got around that issue in the state constitution … probably the same sort of query.)

I live in allegedly liberal NJ, in a town that’s basically a suburb of Philly. The few times I’ve copped to be atheist have resulted in either death stares, or one pleasant case where a National Guardsman told me I was what’s wrong with America.

It does not play well here. Maybe I’m not giving Nebraska the credit it deserves.

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piratedan  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:32:38pm

re: #427 William Lewis

and she’s awesome too…. bleeping adore the Vorkosigan saga of stories and I’ve enjoyed her other works too…

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Belafon  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:32:41pm

re: #416 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I don’t get this whole “free range” thing.
But, after reading the article, it sure sounds a lot like “childhood”, as I remember it.

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It is, but it’s not really practiced by a whole lot of people around here. Except for Halloween, you’d think my neighborhood had nearly no children, so few are outside. My parents kicked me out of the house a lot, even though I was still trying to be the first in my family to go to college.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:32:48pm

I feel the same way about friends and family. I won’t defriend, refuse to see you as family, or be hostile but I will lose respect because I do think your political views say something about your character.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:34:25pm

re: #435 Anymouse 🌹

IOKIYAR

Actually no. Jones was paranoid about W Bush. IOKIYAR doesn’t apply here. Jones just wanted a fellow bigoted nativist pos in the WH and G Dubs for all his failings isn’t that.

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scottslemmons  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:34:54pm

re: #433 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That’s actually why I stuck so long with World of Warcraft (over 10 years!); I wasn’t forced into fighting other players, and when we did group up, it was a cooperative effort for dungeons/raids. I am passably skilled at first-person shooters, but I would die before I’d show up at a Halo or Call of Duty tournament. My anxiety would kill me.

I keep telling myself my anxiety/introversion isn’t that bad. I can go meet new people. I can go to job interviews and come off as charming. I can go into stores and chat with salespeople. I even sometimes play board/card games against people in person. (But still prefer cooperative games)

But I hate playing PvP video games. And going to comics/sci-fi/game conventions drives me up the wall. I end up doing a fast circuit of the hall, hit the vendor section, buy some books, sprint for the exits, and just refuse to speak to artists. I don’t know why the artists terrify me so much, unless I don’t want to feel guilty about not buying art. I’d love to go the GenCon or some of the big horror conventions, but I know I’d waste the entrance fee by leaving after 15 minutes. :/

442
TedStriker  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:35:34pm

re: #430 plansbandc

I won’t be watching to see what happens next, but my guess is more pro Trump BS, especially since the ratings are massive right now.

I disagree, I think they have gotten the current-events politics out right at the beginning (and it wasn’t even that much, TBH); I wonder how much of the hate toward the Roseanne revival is because Roseanne herself is so shitty IRL and not because the show itself is bad (because, for 95% of the hour it was on last night, it wasn’t bad at all and was pretty much classic Roseanne, just up-to-date).

I seriously doubt that Goodman, Gilbert (who, in addition to her host and producer duties for The Talk, is also a producer on this), Metcalf, and Galecki would have come back to do this if they thought it was going to hurt their careers.

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MsJ  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:36:10pm

re: #432 plansbandc

He blew up his fanbase by performing at the RNC. I asked him about it and he basically said it was a paycheck. But that bothered me a lot too. And he appeared on the apprentice, so he knows Dotard. Sigh.

I was meeting with one of my favorite coworkers this morning and when he shared his screen I saw his two top visited sites were Drudge and Fox News.

Bummed me the fuck out.

444
HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:36:21pm

re: #438 Belafon

It is, but it’s not really practiced by a whole lot of people around here. Except for Halloween, you’d think my neighborhood had nearly no children, so few are outside. My parents kicked me out of the house a lot, even though I was still trying to be the first in my family to go to college.

Shit when I was a kid in the late 90’s when I had the guys over, we’d go out at night and walk around town. They have curfews these days or if they did then, irs more enforced now.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:36:25pm

re: #436 Mattand

I live in allegedly liberal NJ, in a town that’s basically a suburb of Philly. The few times I’ve copped to be atheist have resulted in either death stares, or one pleasant case where a National Guardsman told me I was what’s wrong with America.

It does not play well here. Maybe I’m not giving Nebraska the credit it deserves.

There is no place in the USA that is “safe.” Recall Jessica Ahlquist, of Rhode Island, a state explicitly founded as a colony respecting religious freedom (a radical idea before the Revolution) was called an “evil little thing” by a state representative, threatened by classmates, slandered by teachers, &c.

All because she asked about removing a prayer banner at the site her graduation would be held (using school district money).

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plansbandc  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:36:57pm

re: #442 TedStriker

I’m not sure you got my point, but that’s OK. I will never watch it, and we can agree to disagree.

447
retired cynic  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:37:10pm

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

I heard on NPR today that he thought that the swearing in ceremony when he joined the military granted him citizenship, and his officers in the service did not educate him otherwise. ?

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:38:03pm

re: #440 HappyWarrior

Actually no. Jones was paranoid about W Bush. IOKIYAR doesn’t apply here. Jones just wanted a fellow bigoted nativist pos in the WH and G Dubs for all his failings isn’t that.

I didn’t know that. I found a video attacking George W. Bush when he was Governor of Texas.

Alex Jones Confronts George Bush

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:38:25pm

re: #441 scottslemmons

I keep telling myself my anxiety/introversion isn’t that bad. I can go meet new people. I can go to job interviews and come off as charming. I can go into stores and chat with salespeople. I even sometimes play board/card games against people in person. (But still prefer cooperative games)

But I hate playing PvP video games. And going to comics/sci-fi/game conventions drives me up the wall. I end up doing a fast circuit of the hall, hit the vendor section, buy some books, sprint for the exits, and just refuse to speak to artists. I don’t know why the artists terrify me so much, unless I don’t want to feel guilty about not buying art. I’d love to go the GenCon or some of the big horror conventions, but I know I’d waste the entrance fee by leaving after 15 minutes. :/

I’m actually in literally the same boat. Don’t know if you know, but I’ve been in the job hunt recently. Both of the hiring managers who have followed up with job offers have talked about my charisma and how they feel I’d be a good personality fit with their team. I can expend considerable social energy and be a damn respectable social animal for a couple of hours. But at the end of it all, I have to crash at home and if it’s really bad - like hanging out with my in-laws for an extended period - I might have to recuperate for days or even weeks at home, alone, with just myself and the cats and the virtual people of the Interwebs. Such is the life of an introvert; it’s not that we can’t, it’s that we don’t very often because it costs us dearly when we do. There’s nothing wrong with it; it’s just a matter of finding people who understand it and are okay with it. That’s where I got lucky with marrying a woman who was able to come around to acknowledge my social failings and adapt to them.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:38:57pm

re: #448 Anymouse 🌹

That video shows him being escorted out of a GW Bush speech by the cops, so just for that it’s worth watching.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:39:20pm

re: #448 Anymouse 🌹

I didn’t know that. I found a video attacking George W. Bush when he was Governor of Texas.

[Embedded content]

Oh yeah Jones hated Bush. That was my first exposure to him.

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Belafon  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:39:57pm

re: #444 HappyWarrior

Shit when I was a kid in the late 90’s when I had the guts over, we’d go out at night and walk around town. They have curfews these days or if they did then, irs more enforced now.

At 13, in ‘83, I was walking the two miles home from school because I stayed after and practiced tennis. When I was 15, I would go walk for hours. As long as I returned at the appropriate times, which wasn’t hard since those were food times, and I kept up my grades, my parents didn’t care. Then again, we had no money for me to do things like take private lessons or karate, so this was what I had to do.

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Belafon  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:40:45pm

re: #449 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m actually in literally the same boat. Don’t know if you know, but I’ve been in the job hunt recently. Both of the hiring managers who have followed up with job offers have talked about my charisma and how they feel I’d be a good personality fit with their team. I can expend considerable social energy and be a damn respectable social animal for a couple of hours. But at the end of it all, I have to crash at home and if it’s really bad - like hanging out with my in-laws for an extended period - I might have to recuperate for days or even weeks at home, alone, with just myself and the cats and the virtual people of the Interwebs. Such is the life of an introvert; it’s not that we can’t, it’s that we don’t very often because it costs us dearly when we do. There’s nothing wrong with it; it’s just a matter of finding people who understand it and are okay with it. That’s where I got lucky with marrying a woman who was able to come around to acknowledge my social failings and adapt to them.

That’s why I do software.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:41:46pm

re: #453 Belafon

That’s why I do software.

Me too.

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:43:47pm

re: #452 Belafon

At 13, in ‘83, I was walking the two miles home from school because I stayed after and practiced tennis. When I was 15, I would go walk for hours. As long as I returned at the appropriate times, which wasn’t hard since those were food times, and I kept up my grades, my parents didn’t care. Then again, we had no money for me to do things like take private lessons or karate, so this was what I had to do.

It was about a mile or so from my house to the high school so it really wasn’t that bad. On more cold and icy days, I’d get a ride from my Dad since he was working evenigns in that time. The middle school was gosh 3-4 miles looking at it on Google Maps. I never walked to the Middle School but I did walk home a few times since there was a McDonalds nearby the Middle School and sometimes when we stayed after school to work on our shop projects or got extra help, we’d skip the late buses and go to McDs and then just walk home. Did all this before I got my cell. I don’t know how I did it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:43:48pm

Thread, five parts (LOL)

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:44:49pm
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MsJ  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:45:18pm

re: #453 Belafon

That’s why I do software.

Ditto. I’m fun and outgoing and can bullshit with people but I’d much rather be alone at home. My customers love me (and I love then), but I’d rather be talking to my dogs.

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TedStriker  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:46:06pm

re: #446 plansbandc

I’m not sure you got my point, but that’s OK. I will never watch it, and we can agree to disagree.

No, I got your point, which a couple of others also expressed last night; you’ve prejudged the show, perhaps a bit unfairly IMO, based on the advance talk and on Roseanne’s personal odiousness and decided to vote with your remote/wallet, which is your right. However, if you liked “classic” Roseanne, I think that you’d be missing out on something that may just be “lightning striking twice”

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scottslemmons  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:47:26pm

re: #449 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m actually in literally the same boat. Don’t know if you know, but I’ve been in the job hunt recently. Both of the hiring managers who have followed up with job offers have talked about my charisma and how they feel I’d be a good personality fit with their team. I can expend considerable social energy and be a damn respectable social animal for a couple of hours. But at the end of it all, I have to crash at home and if it’s really bad - like hanging out with my in-laws for an extended period - I might have to recuperate for days or even weeks at home, alone, with just myself and the cats and the virtual people of the Interwebs. Such is the life of an introvert; it’s not that we can’t, it’s that we don’t very often because it costs us dearly when we do. There’s nothing wrong with it; it’s just a matter of finding people who understand it and are okay with it. That’s where I got lucky with marrying a woman who was able to come around to acknowledge my social failings and adapt to them.

I’m in the job-hunting boat, too — two years without a job so far, and yesterday I had my first phone interview in months.

And part of my problem with jobs is that I’ve specialized in social media and writing press releases, both of which don’t give you the option of not being in contact with humans. :)

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HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:47:31pm

re: #457 Anymouse 🌹

[Embedded content]

Oh I forgot Dinesh how you completely dismissed the Obama stories. Wait, you happily promoted them. And there’s a difference between Obama’s character and Trump’s when it comes to sleeping around.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:48:38pm

re: #383 The Vicious Babushka

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MsJ  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:49:12pm

re: #459 TedStriker

No, I got your point, which a couple of others also expressed last night; you’ve prejudged the show, perhaps a bit unfairly IMO, based on the advance talk and on Roseanne’s personal odiousness and decided to vote with your remote/wallet, which is your right. However, if you liked “classic” Roseanne, I think that you’d be missing out on something that may just “catch lightning in a bottle”.

18 million people watched it last night. I’ll never be one of them. I don’t take issue with the show, I’m passing on “the talent”. I don’t care that much about shows per se, but I’m just not interested in watching Rosanne Barr.

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scottslemmons  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:49:25pm

re: #461 HappyWarrior

Oh I forgot Dinesh how you completely dismissed the Obama stories. Wait, you happily promoted them. And there’s a difference between Obama’s character and Trump’s when it comes to sleeping around.

D’Souza thinks it’s okay for himself and for Trump to cheat on their wives — but how dare that dastardly Obama remain faithful to his wife!

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Belafon  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:49:28pm

re: #455 HappyWarrior

It was about a mile or so from my house to the high school so it really wasn’t that bad. On more cold and icy days, I’d get a ride from my Dad since he was working evenigns in that time. The middle school was gosh 3-4 miles looking at it on Google Maps. I never walked to the Middle School but I did walk home a few times since there was a McDonalds nearby the Middle School and sometimes when we stayed after school to work on our shop projects or got extra help, we’d skip the late buses and go to McDs and then just walk home. Did all this before I got my cell. I don’t know how I did it.

I went to go look it up, it was actually a 2.8 mile walk from school to home. For someone who liked to be alone, it was actually a nice walk.

And my junior high school has been replaced by an elementary school.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:49:46pm

re: #447 retired cynic

I heard on NPR today that he thought that the swearing in ceremony when he joined the military granted him citizenship, and his officers in the service did not educate him otherwise. ?

Many people, including regular citizens, believe serving in the military grants citizenship. That would be “Starship Troopers,” not the USA.

Officers wouldn’t know about it unless the military member in question told those officers he or she was an undocumented immigrant.

Numerous veterans have been deported when found by ICE. (There is a support organisation for US veterans deported from the country based in Mexico.)

deportedveteranssupporthouse.org

The mission of the Deported Veterans Support House is to support deported veterans on their path to self-sufficiency by providing assistance in the realms of food, clothing, shelter and resource centers as they adjust to life in their new country of residence. We advocate for political legislation which would prohibit the deportation of United States service personnel, both former and current and repatriation to the country they were willing to die for.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:50:08pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:51:01pm

re: #461 HappyWarrior

Oh I forgot Dinesh how you completely dismissed the Obama stories. Wait, you happily promoted them. And there’s a difference between Obama’s character and Trump’s when it comes to sleeping around.

My usual answer to anything he says: Convicted felon says what?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:51:12pm

re: #460 scottslemmons

I’m in the job-hunting boat, too — two years without a job so far, and yesterday I had my first phone interview in months.

And part of my problem with jobs is that I’ve specialized in social media and writing press releases, both of which don’t give you the option of not being in contact with humans. :)

Oh, wow. That’s tough for an introvert. I wish you the best of luck, and if there’s anything I can do to help there, let me know. I’m much more fortunate in that I’ve only been out of work for a month.

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MsJ  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:51:35pm

re: #464 scottslemmons

D’Souza thinks it’s okay for himself and for Trump to cheat on their wives — but how dare that dastardly Obama remain faithful to his wife!

D Souza made a DVD accusing Obama’s mother of being a porn star.

Which he’s perfectly fine with now, of course.

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thecommodore  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:53:04pm

re: #459 TedStriker

No, I got your point, which a couple of others also expressed last night; you’ve prejudged the show, perhaps a bit unfairly IMO, based on the advance talk and on Roseanne’s personal odiousness and decided to vote with your remote/wallet, which is your right. However, if you liked “classic” Roseanne, I think that you’d be missing out on something that may just “catch lightning in a bottle”.

I read an interview with her in the NYT, and this reboot seems like it could be interesting

472
TedStriker  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:55:16pm

re: #471 thecommodore

I read an interview with her in the NYT, and this reboot seems like it could be interesting

Think Fuller House, just Roseanne-style.

473
HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:55:43pm

re: #465 Belafon

I went to go look it up, it was actually a 2.8 mile walk from school to home. For someone who liked to be alone, it was actually a nice walk.

And my junior high school has been replaced by an elementary school.

It was a neat walk since the walk from the middle school, you passed all sorts of commercial places. A bummer that my go to place for baseball cards had closed down before then. My high school walk was nice. It went through the creek at the lower end of the neighborhood. I really enjoyed that walk especially once I got an iPod.

474
HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:56:38pm

re: #470 MsJ

D Souza made a DVD accusing Obama’s mother of being a porn star.

Which he’s perfectly fine with now, of course.

He also like these other assholes went after her since she gasp had partners that were different races. Dinesh is a pathetic fool. I still can’t believe my friend wanted me to watch Hillary’s America. I told him hell no in the nicest way possible.

475
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:56:47pm

Sergei Skripal Was Likely Poisoned by Nerve Agent on His Front Door (The Daily Beast)

Russians know how to intimidate their enemies.

476
HappyWarrior  Mar 28, 2018 • 7:57:56pm

re: #467 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

I hadn’t either. RIP sir, thank you for your humanity in one of humanity’s darkest hours. May you be remembered as the years go on.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 8:01:37pm

re: #476 HappyWarrior

I hadn’t either. RIP sir, thank you for your humanity in one of humanity’s darkest hours. May you be remembered as the years go on.

Like Oskar Schindler, he will be remembered by the descendants of those he saved from the Nazis.

He showed the epitome of courage in the face of unmitigated horror.

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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2018 • 8:02:12pm

Micky was born this morning.

Instagram

Happy to announce that Mommy and Micky Simone Stasik are healthy and happy. Having my flight delayed from San Diego scared me but i was able to make it home from West Coast tour and head right to the hospital in time for Micky to greet the world. Blessed. #stasikfamily

479
Belafon  Mar 28, 2018 • 8:08:46pm

re: #473 HappyWarrior

It was a neat walk since the walk from the middle school, you passed all sorts of commercial places. A bummer that my go to place for baseball cards had closed down before then. My high school walk was nice. It went through the creek at the lower end of the neighborhood. I really enjoyed that walk especially once I got an iPod.

I lived on the north side of Abilene for most of the the first 13 years, in the part that jutted up against the industrial part of town (next to my grandmother’s house, a half a block from ours, was a junk yard. Doing the street walk just now, not a whole lot has changed out there.

Thanks to google, I can show you what the house I lived in looks like now: google.com. My dad and grandfather built the living room with the bay window.

My brother, sister, and I were the only white kids on the block. There was talk here about ICE being recent. Prior to ICE they were called INS, Immigration and Naturalization Service. They would make periodic runs out in my neighborhood, especially to a house at the end of the block. I still remember names of the two kids who where close to my age that lived in that house. That house got so bad that Habitat for Humanity build them a new house.

You made me go all nostalgic for a place I have been happy to stay away from.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 28, 2018 • 8:10:15pm

Thank dog.

But the Vets will pay with chaos.

Everything he touches, dies.

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scottslemmons  Mar 28, 2018 • 8:14:20pm

re: #479 Belafon

I lived on the north side of Abilene for most of the the first 13 years, in the part that jutted up against the industrial part of town (next to my grandmother’s house, a half a block from ours, was a junk yard. Doing the street walk just now, not a whole lot has changed out there.

Thanks to google, I can show you what the house I lived in looks like now: google.com. My dad and grandfather built the living room with the bay window.

My brother, sister, and I were the only white kids on the block. There was talk here about ICE being recent. Prior to ICE they were called INS, Immigration and Naturalization Service. They would make periodic runs out in my neighborhood, especially to a house at the end of the block. I still remember names of the two kids who where close to my age that lived in that house. That house got so bad that Habitat for Humanity build them a new house.

You made me go all nostalgic for a place I have been happy to stay away from.

Holy cheese, I was *born* in Abilene! Very few memories of the place, because we moved when I was five. But I still remember the zoo, the amusement park that used to be across the street from it, and the grocery store. And on a trip back a few years ago, I actually recognized the preschool I went to, which was a weird thing to remember…

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thecommodore  Mar 28, 2018 • 8:14:22pm

re: #457 Anymouse 🌹

[Embedded content]

Is he actually making reference to the accusations of Larry Sinclair? If so, Reggie Love and “Michelle Obama is a man named Michael” can’t be too far away.

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makeitstop  Mar 28, 2018 • 8:17:02pm

re: #376 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s where you put your quarters for the laundry.

I had two in my guitar case when I was a kid. One for guitar picks, one for weed.

484
Flying Squirrel Girl  Mar 28, 2018 • 8:18:23pm

re: #322 teleskiguy

Funny story: me and my brother went to Maui to see String Cheese in 2002. We went on a whale watching trip with a bunch of other Cheese heads. My brother lost our weed when we went snorkeling, because of course he did.

We were on the top deck of the catamaran headed back to Maui when a guy climbed up the ladder and goes, “Umm I found this film canister when I was snorkeling, did anybody lose their stash?” I said my brother did, thanks, and the boat broke out in applause.

I fuckin’ love hippies.

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teleskiguy  Mar 28, 2018 • 8:24:01pm

re: #478 teleskiguy

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Belafon  Mar 28, 2018 • 8:24:09pm

re: #481 scottslemmons

I wish we’d gotten out when I was five. :)

The zoo was amazing when I was there. Of all the zoos I’ve been to since - mind you I haven’t been to a lot - only the Ft. Worth Zoo reminded me of it. The zoos in Dallas, and Virginia Beach, seemed small by comparison.

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 8:24:29pm

re: #480 Stanley Sea

Thank dog.

But the Vets will pay with chaos.

Everything he touches, dies.

Mr. Swan, lobbyist, is wrong. The GOP will rubber-stamp his approval if they can.

They have wanted to tear apart the VA for a long time: as the largest medical system in the USA, and written up on numerous occasions as one of the best, it stands in direct opposition to conservative faith that socialised medicine is necessarily bad.

Conservatives will throw all us veterans under the bus for their religious dogma of “free markets are always better.”

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MsJ  Mar 28, 2018 • 8:25:23pm
489
Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 8:29:52pm
490
Unshaken Defiance  Mar 28, 2018 • 8:29:56pm

re: #326 ObserverArt

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scottslemmons  Mar 28, 2018 • 8:29:56pm

re: #486 Belafon

I wish we’d gotten out when I was five. :)

The zoo was amazing when I was there. Of all the zoos I’ve been to since - mind you I haven’t been to a lot - only the Ft. Worth Zoo reminded me of it. The zoos in Dallas, and Virginia Beach, seemed small by comparison.

I really liked the Ft. Worth Zoo when I’ve visited there, mostly for their aquarium and insect room. But I generally prefer smaller zoos — my favorites are in Clovis, New Mexico and Garden City, Kansas, of all places. :)

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Anymouse 🌹  Mar 28, 2018 • 9:22:19pm

bbc.com

With one year to go before Brexit, Conservative Prime Minister Theresa May says she will keep the United Kingdom “strong and united” while making a tour of the country.

The politicking is getting intense in the UK, with former politicians weighing in … former Prime Minister Tony Blair suggested MPs should vote their convictions, even if they go against the party’s wishes.

Wales and Scotland accuse her of a power grab in asking for devolved powers from Brussels be given to Westminster rather than those countries.

She also says there will be no internal customs division between Great Britain and Northern Ireland, while simultaneously maintaining the border to the Republic of Ireland will remain free. (Good luck with all of that.)

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 28, 2018 • 9:54:43pm

re: #408 Anymouse 🌹

Oklahoma state senate approved an array of state tax hikes to avert a teachers’ strike.

thehill.com

(more)

rightwing extremists dreams of completely eliminating public education crashing into the reality that people expect governemnt to provide good public schools.

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sagehen  Mar 28, 2018 • 11:25:34pm

re: #442 TedStriker

I disagree, I think they have gotten the current-events politics out right at the beginning (and it wasn’t even that much, TBH); I wonder how much of the hate toward the Roseanne revival is because Roseanne herself is so shitty IRL and not because the show itself is bad (because, for 95% of the hour it was on last night, it wasn’t bad at all and was pretty much classic Roseanne, just up-to-date).

I seriously doubt that Goodman, Gilbert (who, in addition to her host and producer duties for The Talk, is also a producer on this), Metcalf, and Galecki would have come back to do this if they thought it was going to hurt their careers.

This clip

Roseanne and the State Rep

is an example of why it freaked people out so bad to think of Roseanne as being a Trumperroid.


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Jungle Performing ‘Heavy, California’ Live on KCRW Jungle’s highly anticipated sophomore album was heavily influenced by their time living here in Los Angeles. We share a live session with the UK band on the release date for For Ever. Watch the full session here:kcrw.com kcrw.comMusic | ...
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Steely Dan: More Than Just a BandPOLYPHONIC MERCHANDISE: store.dftba.com Music by Pracs: SoundCloud Support me on Patreon: patreon.com Twitter: @watchpolyphonicFacebook: facebook.com
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The Faim - Midland Line [Official Video] Another band from the John Feldman / BMG power-punk-pop stable, known for their infectious beats straight from the '80's and party vocals. the Faim hails from Perth. Summer Is A Curse EP out now: thefaim.lnk.to 'Midland Line' Out Now: ...
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Nathaniel Rateliff and the Night Sweats Performing ‘You Worry Me’ Live on KCRW Nathaniel Rateliff and the Night Sweats released their excellent sophomore album Tearing at the Seams earlier this year and have been on the road ever since. Inspired by personal drama, but full of hope, the new songs come alive ...
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Childish Gambino - Feels Like Summer There's a lot more to the lyrics and the video than you first see, while the music amd vocal style reminds me of some "hopeful while showing the hopeless" '70's tunes. “Feels Like Summer” by Childish Gambino smarturl.ittour tickets ...
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The 36% Deplorables Still Back the Babooncnn.com No suprise to me. Despite the raving lunatic Tweets, the nonsense policy decisions, the stoking of racial tensions, the Mafia Thug style approach to law, and the blatant grabs for more power, Trump has not dipped in his support ...
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Bank of America Reportedly Froze Some Accounts After Asking Customers About Their Citizenship It is a fact the American law does not require citizenship to open a bank account. Nor should it. Xenophobia is a terrible business model and attitude. Businessmen come here and do business, that's called economic activity. In order ...
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Myanmar Court Sentences Reuters Reporters to Seven Years in Prison A court sentenced two Reuters reporters who exposed human-rights abuses by Myanmar’s military to seven years in prison on Monday for obtaining state secrets, in a case that raised questions about judicial independence and became emblematic of the country’s ...
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