The Bob Cesca Show: Kellyanne Conway as Witchiepoo

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Kellyanne Conway As Witchiepoo: NSFW; Kimberley A. Johnson, author of Peyton’s Choice, is here; The Great Coffee Caper; Trump is eroding our sanity; Trump really hates Amazon; Trump’s trade war hurts Trump voters more than anyone; McMaster vs Trump; Mueller’s team questions oligarchs; Infowars stooge says Russians should attack Mueller; Bernie and MLK and Dennis Kucinich; and much more.

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94 comments

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Kragar  Apr 5, 2018 • 5:55:02pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Apr 5, 2018 • 6:06:27pm

Remember the good old days when the world was coming to an end because Seth Rogan and James Franco made a disrespectful movie about the leader of North Korea?

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Dave In Austin  Apr 5, 2018 • 6:07:07pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Apr 5, 2018 • 6:11:40pm

I keep forgetting to use the Amazon LGF Associate link but I think it is doubly appropriate now.

Forgive me Charles and please pimp it more.

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Maddies Mom  Apr 5, 2018 • 6:13:51pm

Well guess what y’all, I work at the Chicago Tribune TV station that Sinclair wants to buy. I’ve worked here for 33 years so I can probably hold out ‘til retirement if it’s not too bad. The thing is, this station has been an institution in the Chicagoland area for 70 years. We focus heavily on local stuff, we’re the TV home of the Cubs, Sox, Bulls and Blackhawks. I just don’t see them f*cking with us too much because our viewers (and probably advertisers) will go berserk. This is a very democratic city & state and they’d be slitting their own throats if the ratings start dropping. I think that not only would the ratings drop, the Chicago print media would blast them (they’ve already been doing that quite a bit over the last year) because nobody wants this station to change. With all the publicity lately, now everyone will know who’s to blame. Also, this is a strong union city/state and most of Sinclair’s stations have been in right-to work or weak union states. The last person who bought us, Sam Zell, damn near ruined us. In the fine tradition of a Mitt Romney, he took the company private, loaded on $9 billion of debt and forced us into bankruptcy. All of this is to say, who the f*ck knows what’s going to happen, we’ve all been on edge for over a year now, and the best we can hope for, is that this sale doesn’t go through. Thanks for reading/listening!!!!

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Stanley Sea  Apr 5, 2018 • 6:17:32pm

re: #5 Maddies Mom

Thanks for posting & keep us posted.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 5, 2018 • 6:25:51pm

re: #4 bill d. (b.d.)

I keep forgetting to use the Amazon LGF Associate link but I think it is doubly appropriate now.

Forgive me Charles and please pimp it more.

Bookmark it

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Dave In Austin  Apr 5, 2018 • 6:27:38pm

Just a thought in passing. I wonder how John McCain is doing?

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Stanley Sea  Apr 5, 2018 • 6:31:52pm

re: #8 Dave In Austin

Just a thought in passing. I wonder how John McCain is doing?

Looks like Cindy stood in for him.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Apr 5, 2018 • 6:32:48pm

re: #8 Dave In Austin

Just a thought in passing. I wonder how John McCain is doing?

He would have been fine if Hogg didn’t ask him why he took NRA money, THAT MONSTER!!

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JordanRules  Apr 5, 2018 • 6:33:43pm

re: #7 Dave In Austin

Bookmark it

I feel like that really needs a ‘Libs!!!’ at the end.

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EPR-radar  Apr 5, 2018 • 6:40:01pm

re: #5 Maddies Mom

Well guess what y’all, I work at the Chicago Tribune TV station that Sinclair wants to buy. I’ve worked here for 33 years so I can probably hold out ‘til retirement if it’s not too bad. The thing is, this station has been an institution in the Chicagoland area for 70 years. We focus heavily on local stuff, we’re the TV home of the Cubs, Sox, Bulls and Blackhawks. I just don’t see them f*cking with us too much because our viewers (and probably advertisers) will go berserk. This is a very democratic city & state and they’d be slitting their own throats if the ratings start dropping. I think that not only would the ratings drop, the Chicago print media would blast them (they’ve already been doing that quite a bit over the last year) because nobody wants this station to change. With all the publicity lately, now everyone will know who’s to blame. Also, this is a strong union city/state and most of Sinclair’s stations have been in right-to work or weak union states. The last person who bought us, Sam Zell, damn near ruined us. In the fine tradition of a Mitt Romney, he took the company private, loaded on $9 billion of debt and forced us into bankruptcy. All of this is to say, who the f*ck knows what’s going to happen, we’ve all been on edge for over a year now, and the best we can hope for, is that this sale doesn’t go through. Thanks for reading/listening!!!!

I hope things work out well.

The trouble is that these right wing nut jobs have more money than anyone should have, so they can simply make every radio station they own into a RWNJ propaganda outfit, even if it costs them money to do so.

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JordanRules  Apr 5, 2018 • 6:42:46pm
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Maddies Mom  Apr 5, 2018 • 6:44:04pm

re: #12 EPR-radar

Well this is a TV station, not radio, but I get your point.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 5, 2018 • 6:45:08pm
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Dave In Austin  Apr 5, 2018 • 6:45:31pm

re: #9 Stanley Sea

Looks like Cindy stood in for him.

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Thx

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Skip Intro  Apr 5, 2018 • 6:51:42pm

re: #13 JordanRules

So convince me we’re not already at war in this country (not you, JR, but anyone who’d like to take a shot at it).

The Republicans will continue to do nothing while the Trump crime family destroys everything they touch.

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piratedan  Apr 5, 2018 • 6:53:18pm

re: #13 JordanRules

and usually that kind of response would find you in contempt, no matter the political affiliation and my guess is that the Dems probably noted that the GOP did what about this supposed breach in decorum? Nothing?

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lawhawk  Apr 5, 2018 • 6:57:52pm

re: #15 goddamnedfrank

Also good to know that tampons can be a life-saver if facing a mass shooting incident since it can help stop the bleeding and save a life. /Santorum.

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jaunte  Apr 5, 2018 • 6:58:14pm

Note to science fiction fans:

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 5, 2018 • 6:58:34pm

Well, here’s something I didn’t know, but learned when looking it up.

Someone in E-mail called me “un-American” for using an “umlaut” in the phrase “I filed for reëlection.” (The correct term is diaereses for that diacritical mark over a vowel to indicate two different vowel sounds with paired vowels, but I passed on that.) That person suggested I use a hyphen (re-election).

The correct usage is the diaereses and not a hyphen to avoid confusion with the phrase “do an election over.”

That said, digging into hyphens (since Woodrow Wilson once said hyphens were un-American), I found that the phrase “hyphenated American” (such as Polish-American) used to be a racist dog whistle by conservatives from about 1890-1920. The term has lost its racist and anti-Catholic roots.

A fascinating read on the subject of why the term “hyphenated American” was once a racist and anti-Catholic term can be found here (Wikipedia)

A speech by President Woodrow Wilson employing it in that manner can be found here (goes to the American Presidency Project).

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Cheechako  Apr 5, 2018 • 6:58:42pm

re: #18 piratedan

and usually that kind of response would find you in contempt, no matter the political affiliation and my guess is that the Dems probably noted that the GOP did what about this supposed breach in decorum? Nothing?

He might be asked to testify again next year if the Democrats have control of the House. He needs to be careful about burning bridges.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:01:44pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:02:06pm

re: #19 lawhawk

Also good to know that tampons can be a life-saver if facing a mass shooting incident since it can help stop the bleeding and save a life. /Santorum.

A diaper will also absorb an entire broken bottle of wine in your checked baggage if packed close enough.

Happy surprise.

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Belafon  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:04:57pm

re: #17 Skip Intro

So convince me we’re not already at war in this country (not you, JR, but anyone who’d like to take a shot at it).

The Republicans will continue to do nothing while the Trump crime family destroys everything they touch.

Not going to disagree with you. We are in a cold war with Republicans that would sell the country off in chunks if they could make money and keep controlling the remainder.

And because we’re in a war, different rules apply:
1. The people “being nice” can be the ones that hurt you the most.
2. Sometimes your allies are those you’d oppose on any normal day, because the one goal you have in common is preserving the country.

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Skip Intro  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:08:17pm

re: #25 Belafon

I wish more Democrats would figure that out. The Republicans don’t just want to defeat us, they want to destroy us completely.

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JordanRules  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:08:43pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:13:42pm

re: #27 JordanRules

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lol, Saint Zuckerberg was worried about Grammie getting pics before profit.

For the love of God please say that I’m not going to have start being on the side of the Winklevoss’? Please?

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teleskiguy  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:14:19pm

Damn! Forgot about this until I did a search. My dad went after Kevin Williamson on Twitter back in 2014 when he had his Twitter exchange with Charles and did that podcast that MediaMatters unearthed this week that got him shitcanned from The Atlantic.

He hasn’t touched the damn account in two and a half years. I might need to go to his house and teach him again, ‘cause this is good!

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jaunte  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:16:06pm
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TedStriker  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:19:15pm

re: #26 Skip Intro

I wish more Democrats would figure that out. The Republicans don’t just want to defeat us, they want to destroy us completely.

We believe in rules and laws and having them apply equally to everyone.

They believe that rules and laws apply to everyone but them.

We play nice and try to be equitable, they play dirty to win at all costs.

We need more on our side, especially those higher up in the foodchain, to grow a pair and call out the GOP on their bullshit much more often, vocally and in public.

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Skip Intro  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:19:50pm

re: #30 jaunte

Big talkers, all of them, but really they’re just a bunch of chickenshit wankers.

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teleskiguy  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:21:25pm

re: #29 teleskiguy

I really wish Kevin hadn’t 86d his whole Twitter. Kevin responded to my dad! And my dad was like

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jaunte  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:21:25pm

re: #32 Skip Intro

Gowdy is going to leave Congress having stood for nothing but Benghazi flop sweat.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:22:57pm

re: #29 teleskiguy

Damn! Forgot about this until I did a search. My dad went after Kevin Williamson on Twitter back in 2014 when he had his Twitter exchange with Charles and did that podcast that MediaMatters unearthed this week that got him shitcanned from The Atlantic.

He hasn’t touched the damn account in two and a half years. I might need to go to his house and teach him again, ‘cause this is good!

Go Vogel Dad!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:24:15pm

I guess they’re the wrong kind of Christian, praying the wrong way

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:25:21pm

re: #27 JordanRules

“We’ve never run this company to maximize profits.” - @Facebook’s Sandberg on @BloombergTV

— Pedro da Costa

Are they running it as an intelligence operation for a foreign power to overthrow democratic elections? Just asking questions.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:25:23pm

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teleskiguy  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:27:11pm

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹

Go Vogel Dad!

My mother says he spends too much time on Facebook. I want to check how many apps slinked their way into his profile, I’m positive he was targeted by Cambridge Analytica, he got a steady stream of Hillary bullshit throughout the campaign and he bought all of it hook line and sinker, all the Bill stuff, all the Clinton Foundation stuff, all the misogyny, he loved it. We hung up on each other on the phone several times during the campaign, he was *pissed* at me when I told him I was voting for Hillary.

Anyways, I think my pops should spend more time on Twitter, and then our political arguments can get gonzo!

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TedStriker  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:27:29pm

re: #27 JordanRules

“We’ve never run this company to maximize profits.” - @Facebook’s Sandberg on @BloombergTV

— Pedro da Costa (@pdacosta) April 6, 2018

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:28:45pm

The “no true Christian” fallacy:

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HappyWarrior  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:28:50pm

re: #36 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I guess they’re the wrong kind of Christian, praying the wrong way

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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He certainly is a chip off the old block.

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teleskiguy  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:30:14pm

re: #40 TedStriker

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Belafon  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:31:10pm

re: #41 Anymouse 🌹

The “no true Christian” fallacy:

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If they can’t separate themselves from people like Falwell, how can we expect them to stand up to evangelicals?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:32:04pm

re: #41 Anymouse 🌹

The “no true Christian” fallacy:

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I think you’re being too hard on the guy. He’s as repulsed by Falwell as you are, he just finds Falwell’s actions unChristian and he’s not wrong to say so imo.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:32:50pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:33:00pm

re: #30 jaunte

Interesting.

He’s a shithead, but even he saw how bad it is.

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MsJ  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:33:01pm

re: #30 jaunte

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JordanRules  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:33:38pm

re: #46 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Follow the money.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:35:56pm

Small but significant story from west Texas. Wolfforth abutts Lubbock on the southwest side.
The idea behind this was to drill through the relatively shallow Ogallala aquifer, which is already heavily tapped, down to the Edwards-Trinity aquifer at about 300 feet and the Dockum aquifer at 1700 feet in an effort to find a new water source for the town. They found water at 300 feet but the surrounding strata are clay and the water is too hard to get out. This is the first attempt to tap the deep aquifers for municipal use in Texas and reflects the perilous state of the Ogallala.
Wolfforth’s drill for new water source unsuccessful; exploration to continue

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piratedan  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:37:09pm

re: #46 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

maybe he wasn’t important enough to get on the Russian oligarch money train?

I mean, if he was really a man of his convictions, why did he let guys like Nunes take a pass? Why didn’t he hold Lewandoski’s feet to the fire. What about taking your fucking job seriously?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:37:10pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:39:09pm

re: #36 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I guess they’re the wrong kind of Christian, praying the wrong way

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Is Falwell Jr. or Graham Jr. the bigger douche?

What a battle of the Gods, they must be so proud.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:39:34pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

I think you’re being too hard on the guy. He’s as repulsed by Falwell as you are, he just finds Falwell’s actions unChristian and he’s not wrong to say so imo.

Call me when a single church organisation calls Falwell out (not individual Christians). When I see the Roman Catholic Church, the United Methodist Church, &c calling these hate mongers out, then I’ll reconsider. (Allegedly “moderate” Christians far outnumber these guys. Silence is assent, and every church organisation in the nation has assented for decades.)

Pentecostals and Baptist preachers have been calling out Roman Catholics as “papists” and “no True Christians” for ages. I see no difference between this and the legendary Scot reading the Glasgow Morning Herald about a heinous crime by an Aberdeen man.

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jaunte  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:39:59pm

re: #50 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The Dockum aquifer sounds pretty adventurous.

Salinity and hardness levels for the water in this aquifer vary wildly, ranging from less than 1,000 milligrams of total dissolved solids per liter to more than 20,000. Water from the more saline areas poses a danger to soils, limiting the aquifer’s potential for irrigation in the long run. Nearby uranium supplies have made the water highly radioactive, rendering much of it too dangerous to drink. The water also contains radium-226 and -228, though in more manageable quantities. Water from the eastern outcrop areas tends to be fresher and less dangerous.
talonlpe.com

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HappyWarrior  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:40:01pm

re: #53 bill d. (b.d.)

Is Falwell Jr. or Graham Jr. the bigger douche?

What a battle of the Gods, they must be so proud.

It’s close but Graham Jr wins imo. They’re both awful guys with nothing redeemable about them.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:41:38pm

re: #46 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

This is well worth a watch. I’m genuinely confused by the disconnect between how Gowdy feels now and how he conducted himself for his first six years in office.

— Josh Barro

There is no disconnect. Rep. Gowdy admitted in public what I’ve known all my life: Conservatism is about gaining and maintaining power. Rep. Gowdy forgot his dog whistle in that interview.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:41:49pm

re: #56 HappyWarrior

It’s close but Graham Jr wins imo. They’re both awful guys with nothing redeemable about them.

Whatever after life they have secured for them then I’ll happily, without hesitation, choose the polar opposite.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:43:02pm

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹

There is no disconnect. Rep. Gowdy admitted in public what I’ve known all my life: Conservatism is about gaining and maintaining power. Rep. Gowdy forgot his dog whistle in that interview.

Gowdy is gunning for a Federal judgeship once he retires and he is rewriting his resume in real time.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:43:23pm

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹

Call me when a single church organisation calls Falwell out (not individual Christians). When I see the Roman Catholic Church, the United Methodist Church, &c calling these hate mongers out, then I’ll reconsider. (Allegedly “moderate” Christians far outnumber these guys. Silence is assent, and every church organisation in the nation has assented for decades.)

Pentecostals and Baptist preachers have been calling out Roman Catholics as “papists” and “no True Christians” for ages. I see no difference between this and the legendary Scot reading the Glasgow Morning Herald about a heinous crime by an Aberdeen man.

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹

Call me when a single church organisation calls Falwell out (not individual Christians). When I see the Roman Catholic Church, the United Methodist Church, &c calling these hate mongers out, then I’ll reconsider. (Allegedly “moderate” Christians far outnumber these guys. Silence is assent, and every church organisation in the nation has assented for decades.)

Pentecostals and Baptist preachers have been calling out Roman Catholics as “papists” and “no True Christians” for ages. I see no difference between this and the legendary Scot reading the Glasgow Morning Herald about a heinous crime by an Aberdeen man.

I’m talking about an individual guy here who is an ally from what I see in his tweets. I’m not talking about the hierarchy and coming from a Catholic family, I know how people like Falwell view Catholics like the older members of my family just fine. I just think you’re being way too harsh on an individual Christian who is in fact calling out Falwell.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:44:00pm

re: #58 bill d. (b.d.)

Whatever after life they have secured for them then I’ll happily, without hesitation, choose the polar opposite.

You know the music, food, & company will be better.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:45:59pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

I’m talking about an individual guy here who is an ally from what I see in his tweets. I’m not talking about the hierarchy and coming from a Catholic family, I know how people like Falwell view Catholics like the older members of my family just fine. I just think you’re being way too harsh on an individual Christian who is in fact calling out Falwell.

I’m not being harsh on him, I’m being harsh on the organisations that continue in their silent assent.

I laud his individual attempt to shame Falwell. It is also meaningless unless the tens of millions of Catholics strong in the USA RCC doesn’t call him out. They won’t even call out Westboro Baptist Church.

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JordanRules  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:47:27pm

Well now.

Serial numbers yo.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:49:39pm

OK, if you showed me this image without context I would swear it’s CGI/animation

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bill d. (b.d.)  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:50:18pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

You know the music, food, & company will be better.

and you know that the atmosphere will be 1,000x more chill too.

i don’t think that being in heaven would stop Graham or Falwell from telling you what you are horribly and offendingly doing wrong

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HappyWarrior  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:50:35pm

re: #62 Anymouse 🌹

I’m not being harsh on him, I’m being harsh on the organisations that continue in their silent assent.

I laud his individual attempt to shame Falwell. It is also meaningless unless the tens of millions of Catholics strong in the USA RCC doesn’t call him out. They won’t even call out Westboro Baptist Church.

You think you’re not being harsh, I do, it’s a subjective matter. I’m just saying I felt imo you were being harsh for an individual who did denounce Falwell. I just don’t know what you expect out of him as a man. For all we know, his individual pastor saw what Falwell did and condemned it. You don’t know this guy and I think again imo you’re being way too judgmental towards someone who is an ally.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:50:55pm

re: #64 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, if you showed me this image without context I would swear it’s CGI/animation

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Fake Spews!

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teleskiguy  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:51:17pm

re: #64 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.

Stranger Than Fiction

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Belafon  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:51:22pm

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹

Call me when a single church organisation calls Falwell out

Naaah. See that thing about the cold war above? I’m not waiting around until that happens. They’d sell the country before that. I’ll take all the allies I can get.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:53:31pm

re: #65 bill d. (b.d.)

and you know that the atmosphere will be 1,000x more chill too.

i don’t think that being in heaven would stop Graham or Falwell from telling you what you are horribly and offendingly doing wrong

I liked the that WBL had recently. “Don’t walk by room 4, that’s where the Evangelicals are, they think they’re the only ones here.” But yeah I would not want to be with these guys. Guys like my Uncle Bill or Pope Francis or some of the other clergy would be interesting because they’re open minded. Ain’t nothing open minded about Jerry and Franklin.

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Varek Raith  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:54:46pm

re: #63 JordanRules

Well now.

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Serial numbers yo.

Paul Manafort as recently as March 9th — for *ongoing* activities.

What kind of fucking moron….
Nevermind.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:55:44pm

re: #67 bill d. (b.d.)

Fake Spews!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:56:02pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:56:44pm

re: #72 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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damn Russian judge.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:57:08pm

re: #69 Belafon

Naaah. See that thing about the cold war above? I’m not waiting around until that happens. They’d sell the country before that. I’ll take all the allies I can get.

FWIW I think by their actions many churches do denounce Falwell. Whether it’s by welcoming LGBT members or clergy, welcoming immigrants, or by promoting actually helping the less well off. I don’t need a ministry to call out Falwell directly if I see actions that show their theological worldview rejects his.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:57:36pm

re: #66 HappyWarrior

You think you’re not being harsh, I do, it’s a subjective matter. I’m just saying I felt imo you were being harsh for an individual who did denounce Falwell. I just don’t know what you expect out of him as a man. For all we know, his individual pastor saw what Falwell did and condemned it. You don’t know this guy and I think again imo you’re being way too judgmental towards someone who is an ally.

Name a church organisation (not a person) that has called out Falwell. Even one. I am not being harsh on him, as I wrote above, I laud him.

I’m going to have to log out for now: I have a letter to write to the newspaper tonight calling out a Christian blaming atheists for “taking God out of schools” and blaming us for school shootings because we “banned prayer.” When was the last time any church organisation called out those lies in the name of God?

(I forgot: Martin Luther noted lying in the name of God was a good thing if it won souls.)

starherald.com

G’night y’all. Catch you later… .

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:59:10pm

re: #75 HappyWarrior

FWIW I think by their actions many churches do denounce Falwell. Whether it’s by welcoming LGBT members or clergy, welcoming immigrants, or by promoting actually helping the less well off. I don’t need a ministry to call out Falwell directly if I see actions that show their theological worldview rejects his.

Nope: Direct press release. Officially condemn them. I do need a church ministry to call them out directly: Silence is assent.

Catch ya later.

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Kragar  Apr 5, 2018 • 7:59:21pm
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Belafon  Apr 5, 2018 • 8:01:10pm

re: #73 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

We should start a GoFundMe to send flat-earth guy up in it.

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JordanRules  Apr 5, 2018 • 8:03:33pm

re: #71 Varek Raith

What kind of fucking moron….
Nevermind.

Biggest moron ever club
Scared for his life moron
Still trying to get paid moron
Moron who flaunts his privilege like Hope Hicks hair highlights
Moron who is leaning into his global mobster avatar
Disregards his double Fed anklets moron

All the above. Ongoing.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 5, 2018 • 8:05:03pm

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹

Nope: Direct press release. Officially condemn them. I do need a church ministry to call them out directly: Silence is assent.

Catch ya later.

Given how I believe Muslims shouldn’t have to constantly apologize for Islamic terrorism, I don’t believe Christians should have to denounce every asshole Christian either. Now I will concede, I would like to see more denouncing of those like Falwell but my opinion remains that actions can be renouncing. In Uganda, the Episiocal Church iirc has been among the biggest push backers against the anti lgbt violence and legislation.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 5, 2018 • 8:05:26pm

I’m going to drop this AM. We disagree. That’s all.

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teleskiguy  Apr 5, 2018 • 8:08:07pm

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹

When you’re done with the letter post it to LGF ASAP. It can be refined here before you send it to the newspaper. (wink wink). Good luck in the writing!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 5, 2018 • 8:08:52pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

When your done with the letter post it to LGF ASAP. It can be refined here before you send it to the newspaper. (wink wink). Good luck in the writing!

Ditto and I hope you get positive feedback on it. Blaming nonbelievers for a lack of morality is a cop out.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 5, 2018 • 8:10:03pm

re: #81 HappyWarrior

Given how I believe Muslims shouldn’t have to constantly apologize for Islamic terrorism, I don’t believe Christians should have to denounce every asshole Christian either. Now I will concede, I would like to see more denouncing of those like Falwell but my opinion remains that actions can be renouncing. In Uganda, the Episiocal Church iirc has been among the biggest push backers against the anti lgbt violence and legislation.

QFT. Dangerous.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 5, 2018 • 8:15:51pm

re: #85 Stanley Sea

QFT. Dangerous.

I’m glad I’m not the only one who sees it this way. As for Falwell? Can’t stand the bastard and the world is better without his father in it. But the Catholics I know who have nothing in common with his theological worldview I don’t think should realistically be expected to constantly denounce him. And as I said I think by promoting inclusion, many do it just as I think many Muslims do it as well without coming out and saying Isis doesn’t represent me.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 5, 2018 • 8:19:57pm

Wow killed the thread. Sorry guys.

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Varek Raith  Apr 5, 2018 • 8:21:15pm

re: #87 HappyWarrior

Wow killed the thread. Sorry guys.

Thanks, Blizzard.
:P

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 5, 2018 • 8:27:41pm

The Thunderbirds pilot who was killed in a crash yesterday, Maj. Stephen Del Bagno, was a consultant to Marvel Productions.

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JordanRules  Apr 5, 2018 • 8:29:47pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 5, 2018 • 8:33:19pm

This isn’t me but it could have been. I thought working in a gas station would be cool. I actually got to do it in high school but decided to become a pilot instead.

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JordanRules  Apr 5, 2018 • 8:35:01pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 5, 2018 • 8:45:01pm

re: #92 JordanRules

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LOL

She needs some sort of show.

I need to buy her cookbooks.

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mmmirele  Apr 5, 2018 • 8:52:40pm

re: #36 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I guess they’re the wrong kind of Christian, praying the wrong way

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Can I just say that I’m not impressed with either guy? Jerry Falwell, Jr., you can guess. Shane Claiborne, I’d be more inclined to be on his side, except he’s one of those Evangelicals who, despite their seeming lefty ideals, still refuse to accept LGBT people as fully human. (He thinks LGBT persons should be celibate.) So I consider this more of an in-house spat rather than anything that’s going to benefit the larger community.

I’ve got a documentary camera crew coming through town this weekend to film me picketing in front of Mark Driscoll’s “church” up in Scottsdale. I try to keep my criticisms of Driscoll on the secular side, just as I’ve done with Scientology. After all, there’s so much material to mine there—plagiarism, taking money from the church to promote “Real Marriage,” using a skeevy third-party company to get “Real Marriage” on to the New York Times bestseller list, using most (90%+) of the monies donated for missions on new church plants, imploding his Seattle megachurch, telling women we’re just “penis homes” for men…I could go on and on.

Driscoll is the gift that keeps on giving. His church attendees don’t like it when I tell them that Driscoll owns the outfit (he legally does) and if he were to leave, that church would go under. (One guy complained I was spending way too much time looking at corporate docs. “They’re all online,” I said. “And I used to be a lawyer.” Cue disgusted look.) But Evangelicals aren’t out there picketing him, it’s me, and I’m outside the charmed circle of the household of the faithful, by my own choice.


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