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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 5, 2018 • 8:44:50pm

You probably have to be of a certain age to get this one:

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Scout  Apr 5, 2018 • 8:46:32pm

re: #1 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

You probably have to be of a certain age to get this one:

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I was listening to the Fifth Dimension just yesterday.

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TedStriker  Apr 5, 2018 • 8:46:36pm

re: #1 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

You probably have to be of a certain age to get this one:

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Stanley Sea  Apr 5, 2018 • 8:48:49pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 5, 2018 • 8:48:59pm

Addled

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 5, 2018 • 8:51:53pm

re: #4 Stanley Sea

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TedStriker  Apr 5, 2018 • 8:51:54pm

re: #2 Scout

I was listening to the Fifth Dimension just yesterday.

“One Less Bell to Answer” is definitely one of my faves in any genre and from any period; IMO, it’s one of Burt Bacharach and Hal David’s finest compositions (along with “What the World Needs Now Is Love”; Jackie DeShannon’s version is the gold standard, but I love Bacharach’s short version of it, accompanying himself on piano, during the end credits of Austin Powers: Goldmember), but Marilyn McCoo and the rest of the group just gave it melancholy and soul.

The Fifth Dimension — One Less Bell To Answer

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mmmirele  Apr 5, 2018 • 8:54:07pm

Ferk. I got QLed when commenting on the spat between Jerry Falwell Jr. and Shane Claiborne. Dragging from the previous thread…

Can I just say that I’m not impressed with either guy? Jerry Falwell, Jr., you can guess. Shane Claiborne, I’d be more inclined to be on his side, except he’s one of those Evangelicals who, despite their seeming lefty ideals, still refuse to accept LGBT people as fully human. (He thinks LGBT persons should be celibate.) So I consider this more of an in-house spat rather than anything that’s going to benefit the larger community.

I’ve got a documentary camera crew coming through town this weekend to film me picketing in front of Mark Driscoll’s “church” up in Scottsdale. I try to keep my criticisms of Driscoll on the secular side, just as I’ve done with Scientology. After all, there’s so much material to mine there—plagiarism, taking money from the church to promote “Real Marriage,” using a skeevy third-party company to get “Real Marriage” on to the New York Times bestseller list, using most (90%+) of the monies donated for missions on new church plants, imploding his Seattle megachurch, telling women we’re just “penis homes” for men…I could go on and on.

Driscoll is the gift that keeps on giving. His church attendees don’t like it when I tell them that Driscoll owns the outfit (he legally does) and if he were to leave, that church would go under. (One guy complained I was spending way too much time looking at corporate docs. “They’re all online,” I said. “And I used to be a lawyer.” Cue disgusted look.) But Evangelicals aren’t out there picketing him, it’s me, and I’m outside the charmed circle of the household of the faithful, by my own choice.

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Scout  Apr 5, 2018 • 8:54:27pm
Whereas once the internet offered an escape from the real world, now the real world is a much-needed escape from the internet.

Noah Smith

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dangerman  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:00:35pm

re: #6 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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elect a clown, expect a circus

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fern01  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:02:52pm

re: #6 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I don’t find it hilarious - the president of the US says sh!t like this

Every last person who voted for this clown should be saying

O Lord, what have I done.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:03:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:04:13pm

re: #12 goddamnedfrank

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Yikes.

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fern01  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:06:06pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

Yikes.

So he doesn’t know where he is or where he is going and his aides get TV pundits to lead the policy making

Yikes ain’t the half of it.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:07:17pm

re: #14 fern01

So he doesn’t know where he is or where he is going and his aides get TV pundits to lead the policy making

Yikes ain’t the half of it.

It just amazes me how incompetent he really is. We’ve had bad Presidents before but he stands alone.

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TedStriker  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:10:17pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

It just amazes me how incompetent he really is. We’ve had bad Presidents before but he stands alone.

But, as long as he’s breathing, has a pulse, can sign his name, and holds the office of POTUS, most of the GOP will tolerate Trump.

Where the Rubicon has to be for them to turn on him like a pack of hyenas to save their own skins, no one sane knows.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:11:27pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

It just amazes me how incompetent he really is. We’ve had bad Presidents before but he stands alone.

And his followers don’t see this at all. They excuse every error he makes and many dismiss his association with Putin. My favorites are those who say Comey and McCabe are going to prison for a long time. Their refrain is always “no collusion” and Mueller has found nothing.

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JordanRules  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:12:13pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:14:22pm

GAH

Goodnight.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:15:56pm

re: #18 JordanRules

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He’s evil.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:16:24pm

re: #18 JordanRules

Most of his supporters feel the same way. They casually talk about nuking Mecca. They don’t care about collateral damage at all.

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piratedan  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:16:47pm

with this administration and with the support of the party who he represents, I have to say that these folks have made it easy for me to completely discount anything that the GOP says for the next twenty years.

that’s a sad thing to have a major political party devolve into little more than organized crime family.

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retired cynic  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:28:24pm

re: #7 TedStriker

“One Less Bell to Answer” is definitely one of my faves in any genre and from any period; IMO, it’s one of Burt Bacharach and Hal David’s finest compositions (along with “What the World Needs Now Is Love”; Jackie DeShannon’s version is the gold standard, but I love Bacharach’s short version of it, accompanying himself on piano, during the end credits of Austin Powers: Goldmember), but Marilyn McCoo and the rest of the group just gave it melancholy and soul.

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She was just the best.

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retired cynic  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:35:14pm

re: #23 retired cynic

She was just the best.

I just had to go read her Wiki entry. Some talent.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:38:08pm

The weekly close should be interesting

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Dave In Austin  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:40:42pm

re: #3 TedStriker

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I’m Heh Heh Hehing…. Yep!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:46:27pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

It just amazes me how incompetent he really is. We’ve had bad Presidents before but he stands alone.

He is an ass by himself.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:46:42pm

Fuck the NRA

Facebook

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:51:13pm

OK, calling it a day.

Will be back if the sun returns

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JordanRules  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:51:48pm

Joy was crazy, crazy good in this segment.

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Skip Intro  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:54:46pm
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Dave In Austin  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:57:21pm

Nope… Just Nope

Facebook Post

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I cannot.  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:58:14pm
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Single-handed sailor  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:58:57pm

re: #32 Dave In Austin

Nope… Just Nope

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Yo momma dresses you funny.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 5, 2018 • 9:59:56pm

re: #32 Dave In Austin

It’s like five different eras puked all over each other and this is the result.

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Targetpractice  Apr 5, 2018 • 10:08:28pm

re: #25 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The weekly close should be interesting

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It’s funny, but I could have sworn that the market finished up the other day precisely because the White House indicated they were rethinking tariffs. If you bet your money that Trump was going to suffer a bout of sanity, then you deserve to lose it.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 5, 2018 • 10:09:39pm

Knife Porn
mtckitchen.com

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JordanRules  Apr 5, 2018 • 10:12:34pm

re: #30 JordanRules

Joy was crazy, crazy good in this segment.

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And here’s video.
She’s a killer journalist and TV talent!

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 5, 2018 • 10:14:57pm

From the previous thread:

re: #83 teleskiguy

When you’re done with the letter post it to LGF ASAP. It can be refined here before you send it to the newspaper. (wink wink). Good luck in the writing!

Sorry, by the time you’d posted this, I’d already logged out. I’ve submitted my letter to the newspaper, hopefully beating the deadline for tomorrow morning.

That guy’s letter in the Star-Herald was a first-class Gish Gallop; there was no way all the points could be addressed in the word limit allowed. (That said, they allowed him to go over the limit with his letter, so maybe they will allow me as well. I suppose that depends on the space they have available for letters.)

Here’s my response:

Mr. Dean Bell wrote on April 5 about “atheists and infidels banning prayer in schools” and saying “children cannot pray in school” (long-time misconceptions, only state-mandated or state-written prayers enforced by state employees are banned, children can pray as much as they like) to “atheists are the cause of moral decay in society” and the cause of mass shootings (also misconceptions, as atheists are the least represented religious demographic in prisons, jails, and divorce courts).

He invokes Roe v Wade for good measure, blaming that court decision on atheists as well (and misrepresenting it). To be clear, Roe did not start abortions, they always existed. It allowed for safe abortions and got the government out of the decisions between a woman and her doctor. Roe was about privacy, not freedom of choice as he asserts.

He also names Hollywood movies and video games as culprits for crime and moral decay. (Interestingly, those same movies and video games are found in highly atheistic First World countries such as Denmark, Sweden, the United Kingdom, and Japan, yet those nations do not have the crime problems he tries to link to atheism, movies, and video games.)

The thrust of his argument is to deflect onto atheists, movies, and video games the problem of gun violence, and use them to create a strawman claiming people are trying to ban guns.

This is dangerous thinking, even worse than President GHW Bush’s claim that atheists cannot be patriotic nor should they be citizens (spoken while I was an atheist in the US Navy aboard an aircraft carrier at the time). Atheists have served in every combat the USA has engaged in. We value freedom of religion for all, not a select group.

Isolating minorities and claiming they are the principle source of crime despite all crime statistics is a long-standing method of stripping rights or bringing about genocide against those same groups of people.

The purpose of the Establishment Clause in the I Amendment is to protect the religious rights of all people, not particular groups. I do not know which religious sect this man claims as his faith, but I am sure he would be arguing just as passionately for the Establishment Clause as he argues against it in his letter, if the prayers imposed were not of his own faith.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 5, 2018 • 10:18:53pm

re: #38 JordanRules

❤️ That Joy!

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 5, 2018 • 10:26:34pm

re: #40 Joe Bacon 🌹

❤️ That Joy!

Why doesn’t Ms. Reed have a daily show on MSNBC yet? C’mon Andy Lack, your evening lineup is killing every cable news network in the ratings. Ms. Reed has more than shown she can hold her own as well.

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JordanRules  Apr 5, 2018 • 10:29:34pm

re: #40 Joe Bacon 🌹

❤️ That Joy!

Me too.
She really is a joy!! And a person who helps me process lots of the stuff that isn’t so joyful.
But she is there, with Rachel, making it count for right now and for history.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 5, 2018 • 10:39:09pm

Still irritates me that MSNBC canned Melissa Harris-Perry…

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fern01  Apr 5, 2018 • 10:43:42pm

re: #21 Hecuba’s daughter

Most of his supporters feel the same way. They casually talk about nuking Mecca. They don’t care about collateral damage at all.

That is painfully obvious given what has been happening in Afghanistan and Iraq for 15 years, add in Syria and the fact that the president* wants to fight with Iran - as long as they can’t see the damage they can blame anyone except themselves.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 5, 2018 • 10:57:15pm

re: #1 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I failed to congratulate you when you went over 100,000 karma points here.

I wonder if you can trade those on Mr. Johnson’s Amazon link for valuable gifts and prizes?

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BeachDem  Apr 5, 2018 • 10:59:37pm

I did not know this:

Anne Gorsuch Burford, President Ronald Reagan’s first EPA administrator, resigned in disgrace in 1983. Burford was EPA’s first female administrator (not to mention the mother of Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch), and stepped down after being cited for contempt of Congress for refusing to turn over Superfund records.

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retired cynic  Apr 5, 2018 • 11:01:53pm

re: #46 BeachDem

I did not know this:

Anne Gorsuch Burford, President Ronald Reagan’s first EPA administrator, resigned in disgrace in 1983. Burford was EPA’s first female administrator (not to mention the mother of Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch), and stepped down after being cited for contempt of Congress for refusing to turn over Superfund records.

I remember.

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TedStriker  Apr 5, 2018 • 11:04:03pm

re: #46 BeachDem

I did not know this:

Anne Gorsuch Burford, President Ronald Reagan’s first EPA administrator, resigned in disgrace in 1983. Burford was EPA’s first female administrator (not to mention the mother of Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch), and stepped down after being cited for contempt of Congress for refusing to turn over Superfund records.

Hmmm…

Gorsuch based her administration of the EPA on the New Federalism approach of downsizing federal agencies by delegating their functions and services to the individual states.[6] She believed that the EPA was over-regulating business and that the agency was too large and not cost-effective. During her 22 months as agency head, she cut the budget of the EPA by 22%, reduced the number of cases filed against polluters, relaxed Clean Air Act regulations, and facilitated the spraying of restricted-use pesticides. She cut the total number of agency employees, and hired staff from the industries they were supposed to be regulating.[4] Environmentalists contended that her policies were designed to placate polluters, and accused her of trying to dismantle the agency.[2]

Sounds familiar, doesn’t it?

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 5, 2018 • 11:04:28pm

re: #46 BeachDem

Hmmm, I wonder if there is a GOP quid pro quo there (it would be irresponsible not to speculate).

Robert Bork was promised a Supreme Court nomination by the GOP when he fired Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox in the Saturday Night Massacre. When that seat became available under President Reagan, Bork was nominated (though he was defeated in Senate hearings).

Now comes Neil “frozen trucker” Gorsuch, son of the woman President Reagan selected for the EPA. “Don’t release those records, and we’ll promise your son will be rewarded with a Supreme Court nomination.”

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TedStriker  Apr 5, 2018 • 11:04:39pm

re: #47 retired cynic

I remember.

Pepperidge Farm remembers, too…

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TedStriker  Apr 5, 2018 • 11:06:14pm

re: #49 Anymouse 🌹

Hmmm, I wonder if there is a GOP quid pro quo there (it would be irresponsible not to speculate).

Robert Bork was promised a Supreme Court nomination by the GOP when he fired Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox in the Saturday Night Massacre. When that seat became available under President Reagan, Bork was nominated (though he was defeated in Senate hearings).

Now comes Neil “frozen trucker” Gorsuch, son of the woman President Reagan selected for the EPA. “Don’t release those records, and we’ll promise your son will be rewarded with a Supreme Court nomination.”

Problem is, Neil was only sixteen when his mom split from the EPA.

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teleskiguy  Apr 5, 2018 • 11:07:09pm

Slickly produced rock ‘n’ roll ain’t that bad, as long as it’s done right.

New Frontier

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Single-handed sailor  Apr 5, 2018 • 11:10:13pm

re: #45 Anymouse 🌹

I failed to congratulate you when you went over 100,000 karma points here.

I wonder if you can trade those on Mr. Johnson’s Amazon link for valuable gifts and prizes?

I hear you can get a night in Motel 6 in Buellton, CA for 100k in karma points and a hundred bucks.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 5, 2018 • 11:10:38pm

re: #51 TedStriker

Problem is, Neil was only sixteen when his mom split from the EPA.

Well, I’m not familiar with the ages of the people involved, so that sort of blows up my speculation.

That said, the quid pro quo could have been more general as in “we’ll reward your family when the time comes.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 5, 2018 • 11:19:54pm

Today’s regional newspaper poll: Do you agree with Trump’s proposed tariffs on Chinese goods?

An overwhelming majority (62.5%) voted “no.” I tossed my vote on the No pile.

Something else for Dems to tie around Republican candidates here: Your farms are going under from bad Republican trade policy. You can fix this in November.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 5, 2018 • 11:28:56pm

Pants are the devil.

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Cheechako  Apr 5, 2018 • 11:35:46pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 5, 2018 • 11:35:55pm

re: #56 Amory Blaine

Pants are the devil.

So they say at Wonkette. You’re not even allowed to wear them if you’re reading their Website, according to their unofficial rules.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 5, 2018 • 11:36:50pm

re: #55 Anymouse 🌹

Today’s regional newspaper poll: Do you agree with Trump’s proposed tariffs on Chinese goods?

An overwhelming majority (62.5%) voted “no.” I tossed my vote on the No pile.

Something else for Dems to tie around Republican candidates here: Your farms are going under from bad Republican trade policy. You can fix this in November.

We need to sort out international trade policy. It is not working in our long-term interest.

DItto for immigration policy.

Unfortunately, a lot of people decided that the answer was to vote for a blithering idiot who offered simplistic, short-term solutions.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 5, 2018 • 11:37:54pm

re: #57 Cheechako

A Texas man in Alaska:

‘Just don’t do that’: Man kicks moose - and gets similar treatment.

Kicking an animal that’s eight times my weight and several feet taller just seems like a good idea /s

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 5, 2018 • 11:43:30pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:15:25am

More southern and border state men who upheld and defended their oath to the Constitution rather than rebel against the government to which they swore their oaths:

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:22:57am

To be fair, they can’t alienate conservative voters.

Tennessee Resolution Denouncing neo-Nazis Dies in Legislature for Second Time (CNN)

A resolution condemning neo-Nazis and white nationalists died once again in the Tennessee legislature this week, the second time such a bill failed to pass the state house in the past few weeks.

The resolution would have had the state legislature “strongly denounce and oppose the totalitarian impulses, violent terrorism, xenophobic biases, and bigoted ideologies that are promoted by white nationalists and neo-Nazis,” according to the bill’s text.

But its author, House Republican Caucus chair Ryan Williams, withdrew it from consideration after receiving feedback from Republican lawmakers.

The second version was nearly identical to the first and was sponsored by Williams. The updated bill deleted a reference that urged law enforcement to recognize and pursue such groups as terrorist organizations.

Williams filed his bill on March 28 and withdrew it from consideration this Tuesday, April 3.

(With video showing the first bill die in thirty-six seconds)

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:31:24am

What? Is Trump saying that border crossings being at a forty-six year low are UNACCEPTABLE in all-caps?

Tea Pain has it right though.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:49:19am

Oh Ralph.

Wonkette dug up an old podcast from 2007, where Trump Jr. notes he showers with his father and they “compared packages.”

wonkette.com

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thecommodore  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:58:50am

re: #43 Joe Bacon 🌹

Still irritates me that MSNBC canned Melissa Harris-Perry…

And hired Hugh Hewitt.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:01:04am

Privilege is the biggest blind spot.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:07:21am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:11:42am

re: #68 goddamnedfrank

I disagree with him on this issue, vehemently. But if we won’t hear people’s opinions, we will stop knowing how to respond and be worse for it. This is NOT some performance artist. There are many reasonable people who share his view.

we can find out these people’s views without giving them a platform on a national magazine.

that is what Freedom of Speech and Association is about

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:17:22am

re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

we can find out these people’s views without giving them a platform on a national magazine.

that is what Freedom of Speech and Association is about

It’s also what a free market is about. Reason Magazine has a post up by its Editor-in-Chief arguing that “liberals are against the free market” for boycotting The Atlantic for a man who advocated and doubled-down when asked to clarify his statement that he wished to hang women who had abortions, because hanging by strangulation is the most-cruel method.

This is advocating for genocide. The free market that the Libertarian Party magazine so vehemently defends is decrying people voting with their money in the free market to say they do not wish to buy apologia calling for genocide of women.

reason.com

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:18:07am

re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

we can find out these people’s views without giving them a platform on a national magazine.

that is what Freedom of Speech and Association is about

Educated white dudes assigning other educated white dudes instant credibility based on their ability to orthopraxically articulate an absolutely indefensible position.

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LastYearsMan  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:54:46am

re: #31 Skip Intro

Hey, the Barbarettes! Of all the Korean music I’ve heard, the success of that group probably surprises me the most. But they’re quite good.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:54:58am

The National Weather Service moved tonight’s winter storm warning from the counties six miles to our east, now to the counties to our north. They also extended a winter weather advisory across most of the state, including us.

As such, we get snow through tomorrow evening.

forecast.weather.gov

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:58:50am

Or, our local weather in English. /s

BBC Weather for Scottsbluff, NE

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:12:07am
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Kragar  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:15:58am

re: #75 goddamnedfrank

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I cannot.  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:18:43am
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scottslemmons  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:34:24am

re: #57 Cheechako

A Texas man in Alaska:

‘Just don’t do that’: Man kicks moose - and gets similar treatment.

Minor correction — not a Texan. There’s a Houston, Alaska.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:43:52am

A passing of note:

Isao Takahata, the animated film director who co-founded Studio Ghibli and is known for his award-winning “Grave of the Fireflies,” died of lung cancer Thursday at a Tokyo hospital, Studio Ghibli announced Friday. He was 82.

Takahata, who was born in Mie Prefecture, co-founded Ghibli with renowned animator Hayao Miyazaki in 1985 and produced a number of films that earned widespread acclaim.

His latest film, “The Tale of the Princess Kaguya,” earned him an Academy Award nomination in 2014 for best animated feature. It was also selected for a slot in the Directors’ Fortnight sidebar to the main competition at the 2014 Cannes Film Festival.

However, most consider 1988’s “Grave of the Fireflies,” a film based on Akiyuki Nosaka’s novel of the same name, depicting the struggles of a young boy and his sister in the final month of World War II, to be his best work. The film won many accolades, including the Animation Jury Award and Rights of the Child Award at the 1994 Chicago International Children’s Film Festival.

japantimes.co.jp

RIP. He was one of the greats.

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I cannot.  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:44:58am

re: #78 scottslemmons

Whether he’s Alaskan or Texan, kicking a moose is so stupid, he must be part Florida Man.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:48:47am

re: #75 goddamnedfrank

“If you’re a Nazi and you’re fired, it’s your fault.”

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Dave In Austin  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:56:58am

Worth the watch, Worth the push

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:33:40am

re: #67 goddamnedfrank

Privilege is the biggest blind spot.

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I have friends who I disagree about the role of government on. That’s disagreement. Williamson’s views are hang the bitches and the defense is “Well he was adopted right before Roe, we need to consider that guys.” Well shit, I’m sure there’s plenty of Chinese-American women who were adopted due to how women are viewed in China and the one child policy yet they’re staunchly pro choice. Fuck Williamson. This isn’t casual disagreement. This is wanting violence on women for having done a legal procedure that millions of women have gotten. And he’s got other repulsive views too. RWNJs have advocated firing people for far less than this.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:35:16am

re: #75 goddamnedfrank

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Somehow I bet this conservative is fine with preventing “leftist professors” from “indoctrination” of youth.

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jeffreyw  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:52:03am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:53:10am

Meanwhile, here in the Czech Republic:

Czech billionaire Andrej Babis failed to reach an agreement to form a coalition government with the Social Democratic Party, extending a political deadlock more than five months after he won parliamentary elections.

Falling short of a majority in the October ballot, Babis is seeking to secure enough backing to transition from his role of caretaker prime minister even as he fights a fraud probe and conflict-of-interest allegations. He’s also trying to build ties with other European Union leaders, while fending off comparisons with Hungarian Premier Viktor Orban and Polish ruling-party head Jaroslaw Kaczynski, with whom he shares some euroskeptic and anti-immigrant views.

With mainstream parties refusing to support Babis’s administration, the second-richest Czech could try to negotiate backing from the Communists and the far-right SPD party, an anti-Muslim group advocating for the country to follow the U.K. out of the EU. But Babis told the Pravo newspaper that he isn’t negotiating with SPD and that early elections were one option to end the stalemate.

bloomberg.com

Babiš really doesn’t have a lot of options left; either it’s cooperate with the SPD - a quasi-fascist political party - and the KSČM - unreconstructed Stalinists (which would be disastrous, to be honest) or it’s new elections. However, as the article notes, he might have trouble convincing lawmakers to dissolve the Chamber of Deputies, thereby triggering new elections.

He’s in quite a pickle…..and one entirely of his own making. He does have one option, one which he’s extremely unlikely to choose; namely, step down from the position of PM and put another member of his ANO party in that position while he works behind the scenes as an éminence grise. That might be palatable enough for one of the other mainstream parties to consider entering a coalition with ANO. Unfortunately, he’s far too egotistical for that.

Back later - meatworld stuff to do.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:12:59am

annre: #43 Joe Bacon 🌹

Still irritates me that MSNBC canned Melissa Harris-Perry…

Technically she wasn’t canned. They demanded that she changed her program and she refused and quit. I think they wanted more representatives of conservative ideology on her show.

I really loved her but I seldom watched the show because I was never home at the time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:18:18am

re: #86 Dr Lizardo

Similar conditions are brewing in Germany: the right-wing AfD and left-wing Linke Partei are currently considered to be too extreme for any coalitio.

Angela Merkel was able to put together a grand coalition between the two largest parties, her own center-right Christian Socialists and the center-left Socialist Party, but this lame compromise all but guarantees that both parties will lose support in the next elections and Germany will be in the position of having to rely on one of the extreme right or left-wing participants to form a majority.

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steve_davis  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:20:52am

re: #11 fern01

I don’t find it hilarious - the president of the US says sh!t like this

Every last person who voted for this clown should be saying

O Lord, what have I done.

the problem is that trump supporters listen to trump and think, “just when i think you can’t possibly do or say anything dumber, you do THAT….and completely redeem yourself.” as i’ve occasionally said elsewhere on this site, idiots are idiots because they’re idiots—not because they woke up one day and thought it was a great lifestyle choice.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:30:55am

re: #89 steve_davis

as i’ve occasionally said elsewhere on this site, idiots are idiots because they’re idiots—not because they woke up one day and thought it was a great lifestyle choice.

some people make an effort to become more educated, eloquent and better informed, and often succeed to at least some degree.

others make their boorish idiocy part of their brand

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:32:00am

This article is absolutely fucking insane. ICE created a fake school to fool foreign students into getting student visa under false pretenses in order to track foreign student visa brokers. A Chinese legal immigrant on a student visa wanted to become a citizen, but a Pentagon program called MAVNI for non-citizen recruits with highly sought after language and medical skills that would have enabled him to join was temporarily suspended, so he unknowingly enrolled in the fake school to extend his student visa, paying them $8K. When the program was reinstated he enlisted, which was perfectly legal based on his continuous presence in the US. However since he didn’t try to attend the fake classes at the fake school, because he was in basic training, ICE decided to go after him. ICE ignored General Mattis’ explicit instruction not to go after non-citizen veterans and soldiers, arguing that Mattis really only meant that they shouldn’t go after DREAMers who came here illegally (an absurd argument by any measure.) ICE is now trying to deport the soldier, and as the cherry on top of this fuckery never gave him back the $8K he paid to enroll in their fake ass entrapment school.

ICE is off the goddamned rails.

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William Lewis  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:32:39am

re: #77 I cannot.

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When your opinion is that millions of women should be hanged you are a psychopath who belong in a secure psychiatric facility and to permanently lose your right to own firearms.

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:34:52am

Good morning! Seems we’re off to a flying start today.

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I cannot.  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:34:55am

re: #92 William Lewis

That works too.

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William Lewis  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:38:58am

So I’m working at the store last night and someone comes up and complains that there are pictures of Trump in the urinals in the men’s room. I fish them out and later after I volunteer to clean the bathrooms - “Hey the worst task - touching a picture of Donald is already done” - one of my cow Orkers (who is an evangelical) says how he likes Trump. I just quietly sighed to myself and wandered off to get the mop and bucket.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:39:19am

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

This article is absolutely fucking insane. ICE created a fake school to fool foreign students into getting student visa under false pretenses in order to track foreign student visa brokers. A Chinese legal immigrant on a student visa wanted to become a citizen, but a Pentagon program called MAVNI for non-citizen recruits with highly sought after language and medical skills that would have enabled him to join was temporarily suspended, so he unknowingly enrolled in the fake school to extend his student visa, paying them $8K. When the program was reinstated he enlisted, which was perfectly legal based on his continuous presence in the US. However since he didn’t try to attend the fake classes at the fake school, because he was in basic training, ICE decided to go after him. ICE ignored General Mattis’ explicit instruction not to go after non-citizen veterans and soldiers, arguing that Mattis really only meant that they shouldn’t go after DREAMers who came here illegally (an absurd argument by any measure.) ICE is now trying to deport the soldier, and as the cherry on top of this fuckery never gave him back the $8K he paid to enroll in their fake ass entrapment school.

ICE is off the goddamned rails.

That’s exactly the kind of thing that justifies an official escalation in Californians resistance. ICE is tyrannical oppression at this point.

Lets add up the beans here. What if-Trained up vet with a sizable weapon collection and lots of combat experience decides ICE is not something he will obey. Can’t happen? Of yes it just might, and maybe a few of these guys not just one at a time.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:40:51am

Where’s The Ghost of a Flea? Been gone a little over a week.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:41:56am

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

This article is absolutely fucking insane. ICE created a fake school to fool foreign students into getting student visa under false pretenses in order to track foreign student visa brokers. A Chinese legal immigrant on a student visa wanted to become a citizen, but a Pentagon program called MAVNI for non-citizen recruits with highly sought after language and medical skills that would have enabled him to join was temporarily suspended, so he unknowingly enrolled in the fake school to extend his student visa, paying them $8K. When the program was reinstated he enlisted, which was perfectly legal based on his continuous presence in the US. However since he didn’t try to attend the fake classes at the fake school, because he was in basic training, ICE decided to go after him. ICE ignored General Mattis’ explicit instruction not to go after non-citizen veterans and soldiers, arguing that Mattis really only meant that they shouldn’t go after DREAMers who came here illegally (an absurd argument by any measure.) ICE is now trying to deport the soldier, and as the cherry on top of this fuckery never gave him back the $8K he paid to enroll in their fake ass entrapment school.

ICE is off the goddamned rails.

See, this is the kind of thing conservatives should be critical of when it comes to government abusing power but nah they choose to whine about the Obama administration defending lgbt students.

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I cannot.  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:43:44am

Oh, good news. China threatens retaliation for round 2 of tariffs. And economists predicted 193,000 new jobs for last month, but the actual number was only 103,000.

Wall Street gonna love this.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:45:47am

re: #99 I cannot.

Oh, good news. China threatens retaliation for round 2 of tariffs. And economists predicted 193,000 new jobs for last month, but the actual number was only 103,000.

Wall Street gonna love this.

This is a rejection of the left that wants tariffs too. It’s why Obama championed TPP.

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William Lewis  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:48:58am

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

I really think ICE is unreformable. Scrap the whole agency and start a different one to do it’s legitimate tasks and require psychological exams as part of the employment process.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:50:30am

re: #101 William Lewis

I really think ICE is unreformable. Scrap the whole agency and start a different one to do it’s legitimate tasks and require psychological exams as part of the employment process.

They’ve become Trumps henchmen.

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:52:37am

re: #99 I cannot.

Oh, good news. China threatens retaliation for round 2 of tariffs. And economists predicted 193,000 new jobs for last month, but the actual number was only 103,000.

Wall Street gonna love this.

We were driving home last night and the news reader on 1010 WINS said that Wall Street had ‘put trade war worries behind them’ because the market went back up yesterday. Made it sound like the whole thing was just a trifle that was solved.

I get the feeling that it’s not even started at this point.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:56:30am

re: #103 makeitstop

We were driving home last night and the news reader on 1010 WINS said that Wall Street had ‘put trade war worries behind them’ because the market went back up yesterday. Made it sound like the whole thing was just a trifle that was solved.

I get the feeling that it’s not even started at this point.

It’s yet another example that Trump has zero idea what he’s doing.

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:57:46am

Preznit Hidey Hole is not going to your stupid dinner, so there!

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Sir John Barron  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:59:20am

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

Glad to see ICE is ridding our country of all the MS-13 gangbangers, criminals and troublemakers.

///

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:59:36am

re: #105 makeitstop

Preznit Hidey Hole is not going to your stupid dinner, so there!

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SHS may have even less of a sense of humor than he does.

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:00:36am

re: #107 HappyWarrior

SHS may have even less of a sense of humor than he does.

And Trump may end up taking even more shit than if he’d decided to show up.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:00:49am

re: #95 William Lewis

So I’m working at the store last night and someone comes up and complains that there are pictures of Trump in the urinals in the men’s room. I fish them out and later after I volunteer to clean the bathrooms - “Hey the worst task - touching a picture of Donald is already done” - one of my cow Orkers (who is an evangelical) says how he likes Trump. I just quietly sighed to myself and wandered off to get the mop and bucket.

What picture of Trump did you put in the urinals?

///

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Sir John Barron  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:01:25am

re: #105 makeitstop

Preznit Hidey Hole is not going to your stupid dinner, so there!

He’s too busy doing president stuff like going to Margo Largo and golfing.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:01:52am

re: #108 makeitstop

And Trump may end up taking even more shit than if he’d decided to show up.

Oh yes. He’s going to be mocked bigly for not showing.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:02:14am

re: #110 Sir John Barron

He’s too busy doing president stuff like going to Margo Largo and golfing.

You jest but that will be the excuse.

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:02:49am

Two Facebook stories that have got me ready to smash shit early.

Craven fuckers.

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:03:42am

re: #111 HappyWarrior

Oh yes. He’s going to be mocked bigly for not showing.

Maybe they can get Clint Eastwood to talk to an empty chair.
/

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I cannot.  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:04:00am

re: #109 Sir John Barron

I went with the one where Trump is throwing the pitch.

//…or am I?

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lizardofid  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:11:48am

re: #105 makeitstop

Preznit Hidey Hole is not going to your stupid dinner, so there!

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The folks at the dinner will have to suffer through SHS’s set, but I bet Aidy Bryant and the other writers at SNL are pretty stoked.

Oh, and good morning all!

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:20:46am

re: #101 William Lewis

I really think ICE is unreformable. Scrap the whole agency and start a different one to do it’s legitimate tasks and require psychological exams as part of the employment process.

Every time the GOP demands border control be strengthened, they expand the employment to people who have no business being in law enforcement. We’ve seen this time and again.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:21:59am

re: #102 HappyWarrior

They’ve become Trumps henchmen.

The problem is who joins. It’s very much like the police. Not enough liberals join either of these groups, so their ideologies skew right, which means xenophobia. We need to do something about that as well.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:22:36am

I don’t want to end up with another long Bernie subthread, but this is what is wrong with him:

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:23:35am

re: #113 makeitstop

Two Facebook stories that have got me ready to smash shit early.

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Craven fuckers.

Might have been a good time to “lean in.”

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:29:59am

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

Xilong Zhu, 27, who came from China in 2009 to attend college in the United States, enlisted in the Army and was caught in an immigration dragnet involving a fake university set up by the Department of Homeland Security to catch brokers of fraudulent student visas.

Zhu paid tuition to the University of Northern New Jersey, created by DHS to appear as a real school, long enough to ship to basic training using the legal status gained from a student visa issued to attend that school.

So they entrap him, and then try to deport him.

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:32:23am

Greets and saluts from the resistance in the NYC metro area. Trumpworld remains in chaos, with added trade war craziness thrown in.

Kelly’s supposedly being cut out from decision making, which means he’s toast and doesn’t quite know it yet. Trump thinks he’s the smartest in the room and isn’t taking advice from anyone - no matter who it is, unless they’re on tv telling him what to do.

This is an administration in chaos and presenting a clear and present danger to the nation - Trump is a mortal threat - and the GOP continues enabling this nut because he’s not only their nut, but because Trump’s policies are their policies.

Trump wants to gut the function of government and ruin federal departments, agencies, and programs, so the GOP can turn around and claim that government is failing and we need to stop funding failing government programs. It’s a self-fulfilling action/loop, and the GOP are taking advantage of it while they can.

Take just the trade war talk. He claims you can win it easily (you cant’). Then he claims we’ve already lost the trade war (I’m guessing here he thinks because we have a trade imbalance that means there was a trade war that we lost - but that’s not what any of that means). But his solution is to launch an entirely new and more destructive trade war that will cost American consumers more than they’ll see in tax breaks this year.

The GOP refuses to stop Trump. That means it’s up to Democrats to retake Congress in November with overwhelming turnout nationwide to make sure that the GOP are booted at every level of government to try and begin to repair the damage they’re doing to the nation.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:34:19am

re: #119 Belafon

I don’t want to end up with another long Bernie subthread, but this is what is wrong with him:

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Good read and I agree with Sellers. Sanders doesn’t appreciate what the Obama presidency meant to African Americans at all and it shows.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:34:32am

re: #8 mmmirele

I love how you stand up to these Pulpit Pimps!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:34:36am

re: #118 Belafon

The problem is who joins. It’s very much like the police. Not enough liberals join either of these groups, so their ideologies skew right, which means xenophobia. We need to do something about that as well.

Yep.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:35:34am
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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:35:55am

re: #97 goddamnedfrank

Where’s The Ghost of a Flea? Been gone a little over a week.

He seems to come and go a bit.

I still wonder about Decatur Deb.

When you think about it, we’ve lost a few over the last year. I guess it happens, but I get used to some viewpoints and like seeing them. No more kyls, ggt, bsharp, timothy…others.

I hope they are well.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:37:11am

re: #127 ObserverArt

He seems to come and go a bit.

I still wonder about Decatur Deb.

When you think about it, we’ve lost a few over the last year. I guess it happens, but I get used to some viewpoints and like seeing them. No more kyls, ggt, bsharp, timothy…others.

I hope they are well.

I miss Timothy. We’re the same age and from same state. I miss Klys, ggt, & sharp too.

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Danack  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:37:59am

re: #113 makeitstop

Two Facebook stories that have got me ready to smash shit early.

Craven fuckers.

Craven isn’t the right word.

Zuckerberg’s response to seeing how the Facebook data was being abused was to decide to start preparing a run at the Presidency. He saw how much influence Facebook was having and instead of shutting it down, decided to focus on how it could benefit him personally.

Which is known as dick move.

Full disclaimer - I maintain a wild beard as otherwise I would look a lot like Zuckerberg.

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:38:53am

re: #103 makeitstop

We were driving home last night and the news reader on 1010 WINS said that Wall Street had ‘put trade war worries behind them’ because the market went back up yesterday. Made it sound like the whole thing was just a trifle that was solved.

I get the feeling that it’s not even started at this point.

I heard someone say Trump is in his reality show mode. He creates drama and then doesn’t go through with his threats.

Yeah, great way to run a country.

Oops. I forgot to add an i.

Great way to ruin a country.

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:40:20am
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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:45:05am

re: #113 makeitstop

Two Facebook stories that have got me ready to smash shit early.

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Craven fuckers.

Did you, or anyone happen to see The Today show with Savannah Guthrie interviewing Facebook’s Sheryl Sandberg this morning?

It was disgusting. She tries to put a gentle face on their screw-up and said they don’t sell their data, they protect it and it is tuned to advertisers that cater to you…blah blah blah the fuckity blah.

I’ll look for the video.

Oh yeah, supposedly they have lost 90 billion. Guthrie asked if she and Mark should be running the company now.

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:50:18am

One of the Guthrie Sandberg interview bits. This is the one I heard.

Iframe

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:53:08am

Side note: The wife and I made a snap decision to go to the NY Auto Show at Javits Center last night.

Pretty disappointing. We’ve gone for the last three years, and it’s gotten progressively more exclusive to the major manufacturers. The small shops doing custom work (which was always the most interesting part of it for me) have been squeezed out entirely, and the Classic Cars section (my second favorite part) displayed six cars. Six goddamned cars. The show itself took up roughly half the space it occupied last year - there was a second wing of Javits that showed smaller cars last year, and it was closed off to the public last night.

We’ve most likely attended our last NY Auto Show.

The one car that caught my attention was the Karma Revero, an electric made in SoCal that generates a good percentage of its power through an array of solar panels incorporated into its roof. And it was freaking gorgeous.

But with a price tag starting at $130K, it’s not on my short list of purchases at this time.

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:55:29am

And another…

I find Sheryl Sandberg real hard to take. Could just be me.

Iframe

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William Lewis  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:57:39am

re: #127 ObserverArt

I still wonder about Decatur Deb.

Still no comments from DD since 3/16. Nothing near that one seems to imply problems here to me so I worry about him and his family members. I miss his posts as much as too many others.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:58:31am

re: #49 Anymouse 🌹

Hmmm, I wonder if there is a GOP quid pro quo there (it would be irresponsible not to speculate).

Robert Bork was promised a Supreme Court nomination by the GOP when he fired Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox in the Saturday Night Massacre. When that seat became available under President Reagan, Bork was nominated (though he was defeated in Senate hearings).

Now comes Neil “frozen trucker” Gorsuch, son of the woman President Reagan selected for the EPA. “Don’t release those records, and we’ll promise your son will be rewarded with a Supreme Court nomination.”

There’s QPQ there, but remember that IOKIYAR TRUMPS everything else….

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:02:22am

re: #126 goddamnedfrank

@goddamnedfrank
Just great, our country is being led by a militantly unteachable man child, psychologically stuck in an arrested development state of oppositional defiant disorder.

9:35 AM - Apr 6, 2018

What we have is crazy uncle Donny, that watches Fox 24/7 and no one invites him to family events because he is despised and he yells crazy shit at everyone…as President.

He is everyFoxman.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:05:20am

re: #136 William Lewis

Still no comments from DD since 3/16. Nothing near that one seems to imply problems here to me so I worry about him and his family members. I miss his posts as much as too many others.

Hmmm, hadn’t noticed no DD posts since then. I seem to recall his wife having been ill.

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:08:06am

re: #139 Sir John Barron

Hmmm, hadn’t noticed no DD posts since then. I seem to recall his wife having been ill.

I’d mentioned it a little over a week or so ago, and Sagehen said something about the family doing some traveling. I hope he pops back up.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:25:11am

re: #122 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the resistance in the NYC metro area. Trumpworld remains in chaos, with added trade war craziness thrown in.

Kelly’s supposedly being cut out from decision making, which means he’s toast and doesn’t quite know it yet. Trump thinks he’s the smartest in the room and isn’t taking advice from anyone - no matter who it is, unless they’re on tv telling him what to do.

This is an administration in chaos and presenting a clear and present danger to the nation - Trump is a mortal threat - and the GOP continues enabling this nut because he’s not only their nut, but because Trump’s policies are their policies.

Trump wants to gut the function of government and ruin federal departments, agencies, and programs, so the GOP can turn around and claim that government is failing and we need to stop funding failing government programs. It’s a self-fulfilling action/loop, and the GOP are taking advantage of it while they can.

Take just the trade war talk. He claims you can win it easily (you cant’). Then he claims we’ve already lost the trade war (I’m guessing here he thinks because we have a trade imbalance that means there was a trade war that we lost - but that’s not what any of that means). But his solution is to launch an entirely new and more destructive trade war that will cost American consumers more than they’ll see in tax breaks this year.

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The GOP refuses to stop Trump. That means it’s up to Democrats to retake Congress in November with overwhelming turnout nationwide to make sure that the GOP are booted at every level of government to try and begin to repair the damage they’re doing to the nation.

My film group met Wednesday night to discuss “Death of Stalin”, a very black comedy banned in Russia. Certain members who were in a Northwestern University extension program reported that the class unanimously expressed their distaste and contempt for Trump. They assumed that Trump will be history and our nation will return to its “normal” operation, probably in 2020. They thought of him as a buffoon.

I am torn between the doom-and-gloomers who preach we will not recover from the damage he has done and that the GOP attacks on our institutions have fatally damaged us and the optimists who believe that there will be a blue wave in 2018, that in fact the Trump interlude will inflict permanent damage on the Republican brand, and our country will emerge stronger because we have looked into the abyss and rejected it.

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I cannot.  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:27:43am

Story on CNBC…won’t link because they’re updating the story and have a habit of inserting autoplay videos on WAY TOO LOUD.

“Top Trump economic advisor Larry Kudlow: I just found out about new China tariffs ‘last night’”

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:29:36am

re: #141 Hecuba’s daughter

My film group met Wednesday night to discuss “Death of Stalin”, a very black comedy banned in Russia. Certain members who were in a Northwestern University extension program reported that the class unanimously expressed their distaste and contempt for Trump. They assumed that Trump will be history and our nation will return to its “normal” operation, probably in 2020. They thought of him as a buffoon.

I am torn between the doom-and-gloomers who preach we will not recover from the damage he has done and that the GOP attacks on our institutions have fatally damaged us and the optimists who believe that there will be a blue wave in 2018, that in fact the Trump interlude will inflict permanent damage on the Republican brand, and our country will emerge stronger because we have looked into the abyss and rejected it.

I am optimistic, but we will be a changed country, and diminished in stature. Maybe we’ll be a bit more humble, but it’ll take time to see if the right people will have learned it, the right people not being our elected officials, but voters.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:32:43am

re: #143 Belafon

I am optimistic, but we will be a changed country, and diminished in stature. Maybe we’ll be a bit more humble, but it’ll take time to see if the right people will have learned it, the right people not being our elected officials, but voters.

I still think that historians will see that America was at its peak between Jan 1 1992, with the collapse of the USSR and Sep 11, 2001…We then hung on for a while until November 2016 where we started going downhill.

We are still far, far away from a collapse along the lines of Rome or Byzantium but yes, we will have to sober up and see that we can no longer compare our role in the world to what it was before 2001.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:34:51am

re: #141 Hecuba’s daughter

My film group met Wednesday night to discuss “Death of Stalin”, a very black comedy banned in Russia. Certain members who were in a Northwestern University extension program reported that the class unanimously expressed their distaste and contempt for Trump. They assumed that Trump will be history and our nation will return to its “normal” operation, probably in 2020. They thought of him as a buffoon.

I am torn between the doom-and-gloomers who preach we will not recover from the damage he has done and that the GOP attacks on our institutions have fatally damaged us and the optimists who believe that there will be a blue wave in 2018, that in fact the Trump interlude will inflict permanent damage on the Republican brand, and our country will emerge stronger because we have looked into the abyss and rejected it.

Side note: I really enjoyed “Death of Stalin.” I took my 14yo. He was less certain about the humor, but enjoyed it anyway.

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:35:29am

re: #142 I cannot.

Story on CNBC…won’t link because they’re updating the story and have a habit of inserting autoplay videos on WAY TOO LOUD.

“Top Trump economic advisor Larry Kudlow: I just found out about new China tariffs ‘last night’”

Welcome to the show Larry, you dumbass.

Do people not actually watch and understand the last year of Trump? Seems Kudlow doesn’t.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:35:43am

Some needed humor as I leave for now (I thought it was funny!!!!):

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:38:53am

re: #145 Barefoot Grin

Side note: I really enjoyed “Death of Stalin.” I took my 14yo. He was less certain about the humor, but enjoyed it anyway.

I saw the previews and am not sure about it. Not out of respect for Stalin or Russian history, but as a fan and scholar of that period of history, I am just not sure if it would my cup of чай

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:40:02am

re: #147 Barefoot Grin

Some needed humor as I leave for now (I thought it was funny!!!!):

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Those American Chopper memes are so stupid. I end up giggling like an idiot at just about every one of them.

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:41:48am

re: #144 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I still think that historians will see that America was at its peak between Jan 1 1992, with the collapse of the USSR and Sep 11, 2001…We then hung on for a while until November 2016 where we started going downhill.

We are still far, far away from a collapse along the lines of Rome or Byzantium but yes, we will have to sober up and see that we can no longer compare our role in the world to what it was before 2001.

I think it all went wrong on May 31, 2000.

That is when Survivor hit American TV.

Downhill since…

(Am I just being funny? Maybe maybe not. It sure didn’t help anything. It may have given us Trump.)

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:44:14am

re: #149 makeitstop

Those American Chopper memes are so stupid. I end up giggling like an idiot at just about every one of them.

I get hives when I see images of the two Teutels.

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plansbandc  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:46:33am

re: #57 Cheechako

That’s a bright one right there.

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I cannot.  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:46:48am

re: #147 Barefoot Grin

I heard you want American Chopper memes.

EDIT: I actually didn’t know that about Brutalist architecture, and assumed the other version was correct. I actually do like that architecture, in some circumstances.

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Lupin  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:48:13am

re: #141 Hecuba’s daughter

I am torn between the doom-and-gloomers who preach we will not recover from the damage he has done and that the GOP attacks on our institutions have fatally damaged us

Except for the word “fatally”, I’m afraid I’m one of those; I think we’re entering USA 3.0. I think what we’re going through is essentially a second Civil War.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:49:18am

re: #150 ObserverArt

I think it all went wrong on May 31, 2000.

That is when Survivor hit American TV.

Downhill since…

(Am I just being funny? Maybe maybe not. It sure didn’t help anything. It may have given us Trump.)

I lost track of TV a very long time ago. Never even owned one for years. Still don’t. Watch a number of series on Amazon and Netflix mostly because the GF was into them and anything that involved cuddling with her on the sofa was fine with me) but cannot recall the last time I actively followed a series on TV…

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Lupin  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:49:37am

re: #144 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We are still far, far away from a collapse along the lines of Rome or Byzantium but yes, we will have to sober up and see that we can no longer compare our role in the world to what it was before 2001.

Not quite the Fall of the USSR with tank in the streets, etc. but the decline of the British Empire post WWI/Great Depression, I think.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:50:52am

re: #154 Lupin

Except for the word “fatally”, I’m afraid I’m one of those; I think we’re entering USA 3.0. I think what we’re going through is essentially a second Civil War.

I also sometimes get the feeling that we are splitting into mutually hostile and irreconcilable camps and that we will have to learn some really, really hard lessons before we can start to reconcile ourselves as a nation

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:50:54am

re: #153 I cannot.

I heard you want American Chopper memes.

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Those are great. Dying.

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:51:40am

Oh, and Trump’s all but admitted that Pruitt is going to replace Sessions.

Pruitt is so totally doing a great job destroying the EPA, so why would I move him to the DOJ, where Sessions is destroying the agency’s ability to prosecute those violating civil and voting rights.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:53:05am

re: #156 Lupin

Not quite the Fall of the USSR with tank in the streets, etc. but the decline of the British Empire post WWI/Great Depression, I think.

I remember the angst in the 1980’s when the Japanese market hit its high and many were talking about how we couldn’t compete in the modern workplace. Maybe this is one of those interludes. OTOH, you may be absolutely right. I just hope the planet survives the environmental damage his people are inflicting — no different from the Reagan assault.

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gwangung  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:54:04am

re: #123 HappyWarrior

Good read and I agree with Sellers. Sanders doesn’t appreciate what the Obama presidency meant to African Americans at all and it shows.

Totally. It’s a political fact. You work with political facts. The fact that he doesn’t realize it just means he’s not a serious player.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:54:46am

re: #161 gwangung

Totally. It’s a political fact. You work with political facts. The fact that he doesn’t realize it just means he’s not a serious player.

He just doesn’t get it.

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I cannot.  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:55:15am

This guy was trying too hard with the meme…

These are me nerding out…I’ve been on both sides of these two.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:55:32am

Sanders is not a Democrat, he is an independent Socialist.

People like to overlook that key fact.

He is not part of a party or a movement or anything other than his own campaign.

Which is why I cannot and will not take him too seriously

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:57:24am

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I saw the previews and am not sure about it. Not out of respect for Stalin or Russian history, but as a fan and scholar of that period of history, I am just not sure if it would my cup of чай

I’d say it’s pretty fictionalized - it’s black humor, after all. And they seem to have take some events and consolidated them, such as the drumhead trial and execution of Lavrenty Beria.

But all in all, not a bad film. It opens this weekend here in the Czech Republic and it’ll likely do brisk business…….Czechs love black humor.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:58:21am

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I saw the previews and am not sure about it. Not out of respect for Stalin or Russian history, but as a fan and scholar of that period of history, I am just not sure if it would my cup of чай

You may find it far more entertaining than we unwashed masses who do not have an in depth knowledge of the period. The dialogue is not real and events that took place over an extended period were compressed into a few days. But it is amazingly accurate — even the over-the-top beginning concerning the concert actually happened (obviously a little differently than portrayed here), though 9 years prior to Stalin’s death.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:58:31am

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sanders is not a Democrat, he is an independent Socialist.

People like to overlook that key fact.

He is not part of a party or a movement or anything other than his own campaign.

Which is why I cannot and will not take him too seriously

My problem is he has no record of passing legislation. I can’t see him seriously with so little to his name despite serving under five Presidents.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:58:37am

re: #159 lawhawk

Do you believe that the Fake News Media is pushing hard on a story that I am going to replace A.G. Jeff Sessions with EPA Chief Scott Pruitt, who is doing a great job but is TOTALLY under siege? Do people really believe this stuff? So much of the media is dishonest and corrupt!

— Donald J. Trump

Do you believe that the Fake News Media is pushing hard on a story that I am going to replace [SoS Tillerson, NSA McMasters, That VA guy, My Econ Advisor, My secretary Hope]. Do you really believe this stuff? So dishonest and corrupt!

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:59:16am

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sanders is not a Democrat, he is an independent Socialist.

People like to overlook that key fact.

He is not part of a party or a movement or anything other than his own campaign.

Which is why I cannot and will not take him too seriously

I agree. Therefore the Democrats need to tell him he needs to run for the Independent Socialist Party and he can no longer associate himself with the Democratic Party. He doesn’t like the party anyway.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:01:56am

re: #169 ObserverArt

I agree. Therefore the Democrats need to tell him he needs to run for the Independent Socialist Party and he can no longer associate himself with the Democratic Party. He doesn’t like the party anyway.

He had never campaigned for anyone until two years ago I believe. He’s unsuited for the Presidency because he doesn’t get that successful presidents aren’t do it alone types.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:01:58am

re: #169 ObserverArt

I agree. Therefore the Democrats need to tell him he needs to run for the Independent Socialist Party and he can no longer associate himself with the Democratic Party. He doesn’t like the party anyway.

Until the Democrats have an overwhelming number of Senators, they cannot afford to lose a single vote. So, unfortunately, they are stuck with Sanders until at least 2020.

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plansbandc  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:03:50am

re: #150 ObserverArt

Racist Grandpa’s show absolutely shaped perception of who he is, or rather a completely fictional narrative of who he is. And his show wouldn’t have happened without Survivor.

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:05:27am

How long before Kudlow calls his dealer?

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:05:33am

re: #172 plansbandc

Racist Grandpa’s show absolutely shaped perception of who he is, or rather a completely fictional narrative of who he is. And his show wouldn’t have happened without Survivor.

And without his show, he would never have been President.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:05:54am

re: #113 makeitstop

Two Facebook stories that have got me ready to smash shit early.

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Craven fuckers.

So Marky Mark wanted to violate HIPPA. As for Marky Mark and his partner…

LOCK THEM UP!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:08:45am

Morning Lizardim.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:09:09am

re: #173 makeitstop

How long before Kudlow calls his dealer?

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So Kudlow is actually trying to calm the waters. Well, others have said he is a free-trader — why did he think it desirable to take this position? Was it just because it was always his dream and he knew this would be his only opportunity? He is learning his lesson quickly.

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:10:13am
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:12:51am

re: #170 HappyWarrior

He had never campaigned for anyone until two years ago I believe. He’s unsuited for the Presidency because he doesn’t get that successful presidents aren’t do it alone types.

Trump is the model of a do-it-alone type. Sanders would be better — but only because he speaks in complete sentences and would probably know a little more than Trump about the issues. Of course, he is also a Putin puppet — but for ideological not financial reasons.

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Lupin  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:14:55am

re: #160 Hecuba’s daughter

I just hope the planet survives the environmental damage his people are inflicting.

The planet will do fine. We, OTOH… :-(

I don’t know if you ever watched UPSTAIRS DOWNSTAIRS? I often remember how the Bellamys couldn’t cope after WWI, and were eventually demolished by the krach of 1929. All their certainties had eroded, the world had “turned” (as Stephen King says). The British empire itself was but a ghost of what it was before 1914. I think we’re living one of these times.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:15:28am

re: #133 ObserverArt

One of the Guthrie Sandberg interview bits. This is the one I heard.

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What an arrogant CENSORED!

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:15:35am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:20:03am

re: #182 lawhawk

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How convenient.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:20:30am

re: #180 Lupin

The planet will do fine. We, OTOH… :-(

I don’t know if you ever watched UPSTAIRS DOWNSTAIRS? I often remember how the Bellamys couldn’t cope after WWI, and were eventually demolished by the krach of 1929. All their certainties had eroded, the world had “turned” (as Stephen King says). The British empire itself was but a ghost of what it was before 1914. I think we’re living one of these times.

And the Suez Crisis of 1956 pretty much spelled the end of Britain as a global superpower.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:27:55am

re: #184 Dr Lizardo

And the Suez Crisis of 1956 pretty much spelled the end of Britain as a global superpower.

Unfortunately, the nation that will succeed us is China, a dictatorship that has no belief in free speech, although it is a firm adherent of capitalism. But then as others have said, capitalism has nothing to do with democracy or personal freedom.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:28:16am

For the record, I’m on vacation in Paris.

And I’m not up to typing anything long on an iPhone.

Now I’m going. A man to appreciating art and eating pastry.

See that typo? That’s why I don’t compose on an iPhone.

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:30:28am

re: #171 Hecuba’s daughter

Until the Democrats have an overwhelming number of Senators, they cannot afford to lose a single vote. So, unfortunately, they are stuck with Sanders until at least 2020.

What, Sanders is going to caucus with the Republicans and vote with them?

He would still be the Bernie he has always been, just no access to the Democratic Party machinery. It would force him to come off his high horse and join the Democratic Party or he would be an Independent on an island. Which is what he was before 2015.

I think he would vote the way he always voted. If he didn’t it would show what he is made of and be a lesson to his supporters.

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:30:51am

The people our stupid, ill-informed president looks to for policy positions are apparently every bit as stupid and ill-informed as he is.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:31:15am

re: #180 Lupin

The planet will do fine. We, OTOH… :-(

I don’t know if you ever watched UPSTAIRS DOWNSTAIRS? I often remember how the Bellamys couldn’t cope after WWI, and were eventually demolished by the krach of 1929. All their certainties had eroded, the world had “turned” (as Stephen King says). The British empire itself was but a ghost of what it was before 1914. I think we’re living one of these times.

I’m not sure about the planet doing fine — at least the fauna that inhabit it may be permanently harmed.

Watched the first few years of Upstairs Downstairs when it was originally on but have a terrible memory and really don’t recall details of the story line.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:32:06am

re: #188 makeitstop

The people our stupid, ill-informed president looks to for policy positions are apparently every bit as stupid and ill-informed as he is.

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Yeah they are.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:32:14am

re: #167 HappyWarrior

My problem is he has no record of passing legislation. I can’t see him seriously with so little to his name despite serving under five Presidents.

that is also an aspect of him not being part of any party or any movement, just a rather amorphous ideology

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:33:18am

Most can’t locate Russia on the map ergo the Mueller investigation is invalid? Wow

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gwangung  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:33:32am

re: #191 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A) He’s not a good administrator; his campaigns did a poor job of keeping track of campaign contributions
B) He’s not very flexible; pivoting to meet current events was not a strong point of his campaign
C) His personnel picks aren’t very ethical; see the hack of Clinton’s data…and then there’s his wife….
D) He’s just not very good in supporting down ticket candidates and helping them get elected.

His admirable goals do not overcome his considerable weaknesses as a leader and administrators.

Not sure why this is even an issue and why he’s continually being propped up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:34:47am

re: #193 gwangung

A) He’s not a good administrator; his campaigns did a poor job of keeping track of campaign contributions
B) He’s not very flexible; pivoting to meet current events was not a strong point of his campaign
C) His personnel picks aren’t very ethical; see the hack of Clinton’s data…and then there’s his wife….
D) He’s just not very good in supporting down ticket candidates and helping them get elected.

His admirable goals do not overcome his considerable weaknesses as a leader and administrators.

Not sure why this is even an issue and why he’s continually being propped up.

because Berniebros on the left still admire him and GOP ratfuckers and Russia bots want to see him keep sucking life out of the Democratic party.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:36:19am

re: #192 HappyWarrior

Most can’t locate Russia on the map ergo the Mueller investigation is invalid? Wow

Idiots all!

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JordanRules  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:36:31am
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:37:43am

re: #189 Hecuba’s daughter

I’m not sure about the planet doing fine — at least the fauna that inhabit it may be permanently harmed.

Watched the first few years of Upstairs Downstairs when it was originally on but have a terrible memory and really don’t recall details of the story line.

Upstairs Downstairs was interesting at capturing a certain period of British (and Western) history; it started off in La Belle Époque and that came to a screeching halt with the outbreak of WWI.

There was a second Belle Époque, roughly from the fall of the USSR to September 11, 2001. A very brief period, a little less than a decade.

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:37:59am

re: #193 gwangung

A) He’s not a good administrator; his campaigns did a poor job of keeping track of campaign contributions
B) He’s not very flexible; pivoting to meet current events was not a strong point of his campaign
C) His personnel picks aren’t very ethical; see the hack of Clinton’s data…and then there’s his wife….
D) He’s just not very good in supporting down ticket candidates and helping them get elected.

His admirable goals do not overcome his considerable weaknesses as a leader and administrators.

Not sure why this is even an issue and why he’s continually being propped up.

Talk to the media and also he still has his strong supporters making a lot of noise on Twitter and the like.

As far as the Democratic party it sometimes seems they dance around him because they want to keep as many of his voters as possible.

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:38:12am

re: #188 makeitstop

The people our stupid, ill-informed president looks to for policy positions are apparently every bit as stupid and ill-informed as he is.

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That’s not by accident.

Trump’s base is similarly misinformed and ignorant. Fox has weaponized the ignorance, and the GOP exploits it daily. Trump is the consequence of this ignorant worldview; he’s the symptom of the moral/ethical rot of the GOP, which has been conditioned that upon hearing the word Clinton or Obama to think of every conspiracy theory under the sun and to launch still more nonsensical investigations that will deflect attention from ongoing criminality in Trumpworld.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:38:19am

re: #193 gwangung

A) He’s not a good administrator; his campaigns did a poor job of keeping track of campaign contributions
B) He’s not very flexible; pivoting to meet current events was not a strong point of his campaign
C) His personnel picks aren’t very ethical; see the hack of Clinton’s data…and then there’s his wife….
D) He’s just not very good in supporting down ticket candidates and helping them get elected.

His admirable goals do not overcome his considerable weaknesses as a leader and administrators.

Not sure why this is even an issue and why he’s continually being propped up.

People like the message. Refuse to see the weaknesses.

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:42:33am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:44:46am

re: #201 lawhawk

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I’m glad that Assenge has been exposed. I never saw him as a hero.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:45:11am

BlackRock drops gun sellers/makers

Here’s a look at some of the companies the Yahoo Finance team will be watching for you.

BlackRock (BLK) tops our list. The asset manager is cutting gun sellers including Walmart (WMT) and Dicks Sporting Goods (DKS) from two new ETFs. The new funds exclude stocks of gun makers and large gun retailers following the Parkland, Florida, high school shooting in February in which 17 people were killed. Other brands that won’t be included are Kroger (KR), American Outdoor Brands (AOBC) and Vista Outdoor (VSTO).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:45:49am

re: #197 Dr Lizardo

Upstairs Downstairs was interesting at capturing a certain period of British (and Western) history; it started off in La Belle Époque and that came to a screeching halt with the outbreak of WWI.

There was a second Belle Époque, roughly from the fall of the USSR to September 11, 2001. A very brief period, a little less than a decade.

Yes, and we were on top of the world, had not a care in the and were obsessed with the most trivial and superficial shit.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:46:29am

re: #144 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I still think that historians will see that America was at its peak between Jan 1 1992, with the collapse of the USSR and Sep 11, 2001…We then hung on for a while until November 2016 where we started going downhill.

We are still far, far away from a collapse along the lines of Rome or Byzantium but yes, we will have to sober up and see that we can no longer compare our role in the world to what it was before 2001.

As a student of economics, stats show that American economic performance peaked in September 1973 and began to decline with the first OPEC oil embargo in October 1973. Ever since then, the US has been in economic decline.

As a student of history, it’s a fact that every empire falls sooner or later. We decided under McKinley to become an empire and that set in motion the inevitable decline.

Paid to be a double major at Pitt where the History department acted as a counterweight on the slavish Friedman/Rothbard devotion of the Economics department!

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:46:37am

I’m old enough to remember when “Marxism” referred to a specific set of philosophical and political beliefs, and wasn’t just short for “anything left of Ted Cruz and/or kinda Jew-ey”.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:47:09am

re: #206 Ace-o-aces

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I’m old enough to remember when “Marxism” referred to a specific set of phillisophical and political beliefs, and wasn’t just short for “anything left of Ted Cruz and/or kinda Jew-ey”.

Marxists? LMAO.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:47:14am

re: #202 HappyWarrior

I’m glad that Assenge has been exposed. I never saw him as a hero.

At first the far left celebrated his criminal theft (calling him a “hero”) and everyone right of center was calling him a criminal. Now everyone right of center embraces him….including the piece-of-shit, parasitic asshole sitting in the White House.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:52:41am
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Ace-o-aces  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:54:02am

re: #207 HappyWarrior

Marxists? LMAO.

Hey, remember when Madeleine Albright called for the collectivization of labor and the end of private property? Me neither.

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:54:18am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:54:40am

re: #209 Ace-o-aces

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Lol. Losers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:55:59am

re: #205 Joe Bacon 🌹

As a student of economics, stats show that American economic performance peaked in September 1973 and began to decline with the first OPEC oil embargo in October 1973. Ever since then, the US has been in economic decline.

It was more a matter of a time when the USA was the most influential nation in the world, militarily, culturally and economically.

That all peaked in 2001 and is now starting to sputter and decline

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:56:00am

re: #199 lawhawk

That’s not by accident.

Trump’s base is similarly misinformed and ignorant. Fox has weaponized the ignorance, and the GOP exploits it daily. Trump is the consequence of this ignorant worldview; he’s the symptom of the moral/ethical rot of the GOP, which has been conditioned that upon hearing the word Clinton or Obama to think of every conspiracy theory under the sun and to launch still more nonsensical investigations that will deflect attention from ongoing criminality in Trumpworld.

And the NYT has a column about the conspiracy theory that says Trump is a genius.
nytimes.com

My brother believes this — though I don’t know where he gets his disinformation.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:56:14am

re: #210 Ace-o-aces

Hey, remember when Madeleine Albright called for the collectivization of labor and the end of private property? Me neither.

Fact, Madeline Albrright has heard of Das Kapital. Checkmate, libtard!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:56:37am

re: #211 makeitstop

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He’s so frigging stupid.

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electrotek  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:04:22am

re: #25 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The weekly close should be interesting

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Motherfucking Trump continues its assault on the USD against the JPY.

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Mattand  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:06:31am

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹

So they say at Wonkette. You’re not even allowed to wear them if you’re reading their Website, according to their unofficial rules.

I tried to complain about this but they don’t allow comments. Ever.

By the way, the letter to the editor‘s looks good. My only minor quibble is that I would change “I Amendment” to “First Amendment.”

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Mattand  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:08:38am

re: #188 makeitstop

The people our stupid, ill-informed president looks to for policy positions are apparently every bit as stupid and ill-informed as he is.

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Stupid so toxic should come with a biohazard label.

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Mattand  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:12:47am

re: #214 Hecuba’s daughter

And the NYT has a column about the conspiracy theory that says Trump is a genius.
nytimes.com

My brother believes this — though I don’t know where he gets his disinformation.

Trump strikes me is kind of an evil version of Chauncey Gardner from the movie Being There (basically a version of Forrest Gump that came out in 1980 before Tom Hanks‘ movie, for you young ‘uns.)

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:13:28am

re: #211 makeitstop

The issue is whether the WTO will treat China as a market or nonmarket nation.

In 2000, the Chinese entered the WTC and had until end of 2016 to comply. The EU and now US are claiming the Chinese haven’t fulfilled their obligation to comply.

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:20:02am
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Eventual Carrion  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:20:38am

re: #134 makeitstop

[snip]

The one car that caught my attention was the Karma Revero, an electric made in SoCal that generates a good percentage of its power through an array of solar panels incorporated into its roof. And it was freaking gorgeous.

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But with a price tag starting at $130K, it’s not on my short list of purchases at this time.

That’s pay off the porn star territory in price.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:22:57am

re: #148 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I saw the previews and am not sure about it. Not out of respect for Stalin or Russian history, but as a fan and scholar of that period of history, I am just not sure if it would my cup of чай

I have a friend who is a Russia specialist. He said that among his friends there’s a split who understand that it’s the spirit and not the literality of the film and those who can’t help getting hung up on the ways it strays from the facts as known. He’s in the first camp.

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:23:14am

re: #220 Mattand

Trump strikes me is kind of an evil version of Chauncey Gardner from the movie Being There (basically a version of Forrest Gump that came out in 1980 before Tom Hanks’ movie, for you young ‘uns.)

Throw Woody Allen’s Zelig in that mix too.

One reviewer of Forrest Gump back’s both our contentions.

Adam Mars-Jones
The Independent
Forrest Gump is a schmaltz-Zelig, a Being There engineered from the genetic material of a Hallmark card.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:24:00am

re: #222 lawhawk

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Sigh. They don’t do a damn constructive thing.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:25:04am

re: #222 lawhawk

GREEN party:

Getting Republicans Elected Every November

— lawhawk (@lawhawk) April 6, 2018

GREEN Party:

Making the far left feel superior by not voting for a viable “mainstream sell-out”.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:25:47am

re: #224 Barefoot Grin

I have a friend who is a Russia specialist. He said that among his friends there’s a split who understand that it’s the spirit and not the literality of the film and those who can’t help getting hung up on the ways it strays from the facts as known. He’s in the first camp.

I want to see it as a comedy the same way I enjoyed Guess Who’s Back, a German mockumentary where Hitler wakes up in the remains of the Fueherbunker in present day Germany and becomes a national sensation.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:29:14am

re: #224 Barefoot Grin

I have a friend who is a Russia specialist. He said that among his friends there’s a split who understand that it’s the spirit and not the literality of the film and those who can’t help getting hung up on the ways it strays from the facts as known. He’s in the first camp.

yes, that is a matter of aesthetic choice. I suppose I will watch it some day when it comes on Amazon/Netflix

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:29:19am

re: #223 Eventual Carrion

That’s pay off the porn star territory in price.

Yeah, paying off that porn star (who I never slept with!) kinda drained the Boutique Electric Car fund. Happens every damn time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:30:03am

re: #225 ObserverArt

Throw Woody Allen’s Zelig in that mix too.

One reviewer of Forrest Gump back’s both our contentions.

The 100 Year Old Man Who Climbed Out a Window and Disappeared is also in that vein, an idiot savant who pops up all over history.

And Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story is a musical version of that

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:34:17am

re: #228 HappyWarrior

I want to see it as a comedy the same way I enjoyed Guess Who’s Back, a German mockumentary where Hitler wakes up in the remains of the Fueherbunker in present day Germany and becomes a national sensation.

Er Ist Weider Da was brilliant. I went and saw it locally at a little art house cinema we have in town here, and we were both laughing. She later said, “I know I shouldn’t be laughing at any of this, but it really was a brilliant dark comedy.”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:34:37am

re: #231 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The 100 Year Old Man Who Climbed Out a Window and Disappeared is also in that vein, an idiot savant who pops up all over history.

And Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story is a musical version of that

I saw Walk Hard as more a parody of Walk the Line and Ray. Not a bad movie. Not my favorite modern comedy but enjoyable. My favorite modern comedies are ones like In Bruges and The Guard.

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I cannot.  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:35:21am

Oh fuck. Dow down 430.

There’s a strong argument that it was too high already, and I agree with that completely…it’s just that it sucks when it is your balance (and the balances of bazillions of others) going down.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:35:30am

re: #232 Dr Lizardo

Er Ist Weider Da was brilliant. I went and saw it locally at a little art house cinema we have in town here, and we were both laughing. She later said, “I know I shouldn’t be laughing at any of this, but it really was a brilliant dark comedy.”

My brother, who speaks German really enjoyed it. It did pose many interesting questions not to mention was funny as hell.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:35:50am

re: #222 lawhawk

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Jill Stein is a Putin bot. The party is there to help Putin and destroy Democrats.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:37:33am

Little Big Man is a film my other brother and I always enjoyed since we loved the Chief Dan George character because he always made decisions after smoking it over and the line “Today is a fine day to die.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:38:46am

re: #220 Mattand

Trump strikes me is kind of an evil version of Chauncey Gardner from the movie Being There (basically a version of Forrest Gump that came out in 1980 before Tom Hanks‘ movie, for you young ‘uns.)

You are right. He got everything from TV and the people who supported him thought his musings were the sign of genius. OTOH — remember — he could walk on water.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:40:05am

well, folks, looks like our long vacation is over…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:40:59am

re: #220 Mattand

Trump strikes me is kind of an evil version of Chauncey Gardner from the movie Being There (basically a version of Forrest Gump that came out in 1980 before Tom Hanks‘ movie, for you young ‘uns.)

There seem to be two types of DT supporters: ones who truly think him a genius businessman, and those who simply defend him because he represents their party and their ideology and is a useful idiot who promotes their interests.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:41:50am
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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:42:09am

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

well, folks, looks like our long vacation is over…

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I need to run out to my car and get my sunglasses to watch that video.

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jeffreyw  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:42:52am

re: #237 HappyWarrior

Sometimes the magic works…

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:42:54am

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Personally, I think Trump should be impeached for his depraved indifference to Puerto Rico.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:44:04am

re: #244 Hecuba’s daughter

Personally, I think Trump should be impeached for his depraved indifference to Puerto Rico.

The entire GOP.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:44:11am

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

There is an awful lot going on right now that demands your attention, and this story fits the bill: The Puerto Rican government announces it will close 283 public schools. My story:

I also read that the University of Puerto Rico will have to nearly triple tuition fees to meet its budget shortfalls.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:44:58am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:47:19am

Did everyone like Three Billboards Outside Ebbling Missouri re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He needs to go. He’s not the worst GOP governor but MD can do better.

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BeachDem  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:47:30am

re: #140 ObserverArt

I’d mentioned it a little over a week or so ago, and Sagehen said something about the family doing some traveling. I hope he pops back up.

E/U8uiVlI9iIftNpXofFadBsgS/bnJgAdzmKUxyhpz8Nd3M1AHy+TYvBAav0GQfQC5mtWWvCaf23FHDshhKY0NBlNESS7uzE

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:47:54am
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darthstar  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:48:30am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:49:36am

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

“A resolution that would change the Tennessee Constitution to say God is the source of liberty for the state’s citizens is gaining momentum. The House passed the measure last yr & it’ll go before a full Senate vote…this week.”

Once that is in place, they will have a precedent for “religious freedom” laws that allow for any sort of religious discrimination that these fundamentalists can think of…

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darthstar  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:54:18am
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darthstar  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:55:17am
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Stanley Sea  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:56:44am
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electrotek  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:57:37am

re: #255 Stanley Sea

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I get really angry when NONE of the publications that mention Geller or Spencer EVER bring up the fact that they inspired a child-killing anti-Muslim fascist in Norway.

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plansbandc  Apr 6, 2018 • 9:58:41am

re: #206 Ace-o-aces

Kinda Jew-ey would make a fine band name.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 6, 2018 • 10:01:10am

I can’t believe a man who ran a sketchy mercenary outfit would be dishonest!

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 6, 2018 • 10:04:25am

re: #257 plansbandc

Kinda Jew-ey would make a fine band name.

The best Jewish band name remains “Black Shabbos”.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2018 • 10:04:48am

re: #258 Ace-o-aces

aceoaces
@aceoaces
There is irony in the fact that the dude basically ran “Murder inc.” for years, but will end up getting pinched for perjury.
11:59 AM - Apr 6, 2018
Replies Retweets likes

I can’t believe a man who ran a sketchy mercenary outfit would be dishonest!

Mobsters are often trapped for their non-violent crimes. Capone went to prison for tax evasion not murder.

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plansbandc  Apr 6, 2018 • 10:05:01am

re: #259 Ace-o-aces

That’s perfect!

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Dave In Austin  Apr 6, 2018 • 10:07:41am
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Ace-o-aces  Apr 6, 2018 • 10:09:05am
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electrotek  Apr 6, 2018 • 10:11:04am

re: #263 Ace-o-aces

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And Pancho Villa 2.0 will emerge.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 6, 2018 • 10:12:05am

re: #263 Ace-o-aces

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And nothing of value was lost.///

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 6, 2018 • 10:13:45am
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Ace-o-aces  Apr 6, 2018 • 10:14:08am
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electrotek  Apr 6, 2018 • 10:15:38am

re: #266 Ace-o-aces

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Remember that time when very few people at Fox News stood by her and Spencer after the provocative Garland stunt?

And then claimed that Bill O’Reilly would be scared of her?

Right, this is coming from the same woman who was clearly scared when she was on Russell Brand’s X Factor a few years back.

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2018 • 10:16:23am
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Ace-o-aces  Apr 6, 2018 • 10:16:25am

re: #265 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And nothing of value was lost.///

If we loose Austin, hipster refugees will flood north!

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 6, 2018 • 10:27:08am

re: #269 lawhawk

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And Trump roils the market because he is an ignorant ass. On the one hand he wants to claim we have the greatest economy ever, and then the next day he claims we lost the trade war and we should slap another $100 bn in tariffs on China because we are losing so badly. Both brain farts can’t be true (and in fact neither are) but Trump can’t seem to hold a coherent thought in his head for more than a minute, if that.

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blueraven  Apr 6, 2018 • 10:33:56am

Hey, anyone heard from Decatur Deb? Though I am not around as much as I would like to be, I noticed he hasn’t posted in a while.

Last post was March 15

littlegreenfootballs.com

with this image

Was he going on a trip?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2018 • 10:37:01am

re: #271 Big Beautiful Door

And Trump roils the market because he is an ignorant ass. On the one hand he wants to claim we have the greatest economy ever, and then the next day he claims we lost the trade war and we should slap another $100 bn in tariffs on China because we are losing so badly. Both brain farts can’t be true (and in fact neither are) but Trump can’t seem to hold a coherent thought in his head for more than a minute, if that.

He does not need to, there are people all over his administration, his party and in the media who see their task as getting up and explaining what the President said and what he really meant when he said it and why it does not relate to anything else he ever said…

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Charles Johnson  Apr 6, 2018 • 10:40:36am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 10:46:33am

re: #274 Charles Johnson

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He’s said more than that but he’s such a victim of the left.//

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Charles Johnson  Apr 6, 2018 • 10:54:31am
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jaunte  Apr 6, 2018 • 10:55:51am
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Sir John Barron  Apr 6, 2018 • 10:59:22am

re: #274 Charles Johnson

Conservative Twitter is having a meltdown over this. Funniest thing is all the couch-fainting about “the mob”. Media and social media conservatives spent 2009-2016 in an Obama-inspired rage-mob over everything and nothing.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 6, 2018 • 10:59:23am
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Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:00:46am

re: #244 Hecuba’s daughter

Personally, I think Trump should be impeached for his depraved indifference to Puerto Rico.

re: #245 Belafon

The entire GOP.

AND HILLARY AND OBAMA!

YEAH, HILLARY AND OBAMA!

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Jay C  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:00:53am

re: #234 I cannot.

Oh fuck. Dow down 430.

There’s a strong argument that it was too high already, and I agree with that completely…it’s just that it sucks when it is your balance (and the balances of bazillions of others) going down.

True. If the Dow (despite downturns) still manages to stay above roughly the 23,400 level (about 600 pts down from where it is) it won;t be as bad news as it might.
Below that, though….???
IMO, Not so good.

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jaunte  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:01:08am

BREAKING: Regnery writer complains about “the Left.”

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Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:01:25am

re: #281 Dr. Matt

AND HILLARY AND OBAMA!

YEAH, HILLARY AND OBAMA!

We need a Berniebro font.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:03:19am
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Charles Johnson  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:05:04am
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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:07:36am

re: #280 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I hope Pat can remember his safe word during his domination sessions; he is getting old.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:08:28am

re: #287 Big Beautiful Door

I hope Pat can remember his safe word during his domination sessions; he is getting old.

Actually, I’m kinda hoping he can’t.

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:08:53am

re: #286 Charles Johnson

It shouldn’t matter when the call is made - before or after they make abortion illegal.

They aren’t pro life. This is just more proof of the misogynistic position the right wing has taken. They don’t want women to have a choice. They want them to carry to term and they don’t care what happens to the mom or baby after it’s born. They wont provide prenatal care and they aren’t providing care after birth either.

They just want the baby born.

That’s not pro life.

It’s pro forced birth.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:09:34am

re: #287 Big Beautiful Door

I hope Pat can remember his safe word during his domination sessions; he is getting old.

I’m pretty sure its “God will forgive me.”

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blueraven  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:09:44am

Dow is at down 600+ right now.

Thanks Trump.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:10:26am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:10:54am

re: #280 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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So Pulpit Pimp Pat is out of the closet…

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:11:39am

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

well, folks, looks like our long vacation is over…

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I think he really means “For sale”.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:13:31am

re: #279 Sir John Barron

Conservative Twitter is having a meltdown over this. Funniest thing is all the couch-fainting about “the mob”. Media and social media conservatives spent 2009-2016 in an Obama-inspired rage-mob over everything and nothing.

I welcome conservative Twitter pointing me to all their outrage pieces about all the Tea Party mobs trying to shutdown congressional townhall meetings.

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I cannot.  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:14:49am

re: #282 Jay C

23,400? Technical analysis? I usually avoid that, but what criteria did you use to get that number?

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Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:15:12am

re: #291 blueraven

Dow is at down 600+ right now.

Thanks Trump.

Fake news. It’s -580.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:15:54am

re: #292 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Shocked to see that Byron York and Mollie Hemingway can’t read.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:17:53am

Here is my primary watchlist. Everything is getting pounded. Thanks, Dotard.

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gocart mozart  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:20:47am

Avenatti is a grammer Nazi

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Dave In Austin  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:21:07am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:21:17am

Ah Sylvester wants to comment on the Dow…

Sylvester - Down, Down, Down (1977)

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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:22:00am

Decided to give #JobsReport a peek and the level of denial wingnuts are in is just magical. The ones who aren’t bursting blood vessels screaming “YOU WANT AMERICA TO FAIL!!!” are trying to act like pocket economists by arguing that missing the estimate by over half is a “good” thing because it means the economy is at full employment and so fewer jobs need to be created. It’s the magical world of Trumpism: Even when he fails, he “wins.”

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:22:02am

re: #280 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Jeez, Pat, there’s better places to talk about your sex life.

TMI.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:22:23am

re: #286 Charles Johnson

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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:23:37am

re: #301 Dave In Austin

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Another example of how temporary celebrity can lead to years of having one’s head up their own ass.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:23:40am

re: #303 Targetpractice

Decided to give #JobsReport a peek and the level of denial wingnuts are in is just magical. The ones who aren’t bursting blood vessels screaming “YOU WANT AMERICA TO FAIL!!!” are trying to act like pocket economists by arguing that missing the estimate by over half is a “good” thing because it means the economy is at full employment and so fewer jobs need to be created. It’s the magical world of Trumpism: Even when he fails, he “wins.”

I miss the days when the true real unemployment rate in 2016 was 40% according to team maga.

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Kilroy was here  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:23:46am

Mitt Romney: Profiles in Courage

Romney: ‘I’m not going to look backward’ on Trump criticism
thehill.com

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:24:14am

re: #301 Dave In Austin

There’s a reason I got blocked by him. I called him out on his incessant Bernie BS and lies about what Obama did or did not do (and what Hillary did or did not do). He’s a far left version of Trumpworld.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:24:21am

re: #280 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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And his safe word is “Jesus”

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Sir John Barron  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:24:55am

re: #306 Targetpractice

Another example of how temporary celebrity can lead to years of having one’s head up their own ass.

Who is this in reference to?

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gocart mozart  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:25:10am
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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:25:21am

re: #308 Kilroy was here

Mitt Romney: Profiles in Courage

Romney: ‘I’m not going to look backward’ on Trump criticism
thehill.com

“If I look backward, I might see that Donald ripped my spine out last year.”

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jaunte  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:25:35am

re: #303 Targetpractice

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:26:11am

re: #308 Kilroy was here

Mitt Romney: Profiles in Courage

Romney: ‘I’m not going to look backward’ on Trump criticism
thehill.com

Because you’re the most useless politician ever, Mitt.

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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:26:28am

re: #311 Sir John Barron

Who is this in reference to?

Shaun King, largely due to all the public attention and accolades he received reporting first on the Michael Brown case and then later the Freddie Grey case.

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Jay C  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:27:18am

re: #296 I cannot.

23,400? Technical analysis? I usually avoid that, but what criteria did you use to get that number?

Seat-of-the-pants-WAG. That level seems to be where the uptick in the Dow took off from last fall: the growth curve got steeper from around the 23,400 level up to the late-Jan high: the WAG is that the lower level is the “floor” below which investors/speculators will actually start to lose money they made in the prior years’ runup.

But of course, like any other stock-market analysis, subject to correction at any time…..

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:27:25am

re: #314 jaunte

Iowa ethanol and biodiesel producers are warning President Donald Trump that imposing restrictions on biofuels production “would be viewed as a declaration of war on rural America”

‘But we’ll probably vote for you again anyway.’

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Targetpractice  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:27:47am

re: #314 jaunte

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“We want a businessman who knows how to make the economy work…wait, why is he selling our asses out?!”

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Dr. Matt  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:27:54am
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:28:21am

re: #314 jaunte

And I know exactly what I’d tell them.

“You won. Get over it.”

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jaunte  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:29:40am

re: #321 Dr Lizardo

“Why hasn’t this corrupt incompetent narcissist become the leader we need?”

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Sir John Barron  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:30:01am

re: #321 Dr Lizardo

And I know exactly what I’d tell them.

“You won. Get over it.”

“Trump’s President, get over it.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:30:10am

re: #321 Dr Lizardo

And I know exactly what I’d tell them.

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“You won. Get over it.”

#FuckYourFeelings

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Charles Johnson  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:30:18am
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Sir John Barron  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:30:53am

re: #321 Dr Lizardo

And I know exactly what I’d tell them.

“You won. Get over it.”

“You know now many electoral colleges I won in Iowa? All of them. Wasn’t close. I was so great.”

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:31:38am

re: #267 Ace-o-aces

aceoaces
@aceoaces
It involves a mixture of alcohol and racism.

1:11 PM - Apr 6, 2018

You left out wingnut stoopidity. A special mixture element.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:32:58am

re: #303 Targetpractice

Decided to give #JobsReport a peek and the level of denial wingnuts are in is just magical. The ones who aren’t bursting blood vessels screaming “YOU WANT AMERICA TO FAIL!!!” are trying to act like pocket economists by arguing that missing the estimate by over half is a “good” thing because it means the economy is at full employment and so fewer jobs need to be created. It’s the magical world of Trumpism: Even when he fails, he “wins.”

There is absolutely no real significance one way or another to today’s job report. Its just another typical monthly report like we have been having for the last eight years that will be revised several times. But you can’t get many clicks for an article with the headline “BLS reports nothing of any significance.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:33:54am

re: #287 Big Beautiful Door

I hope Pat can remember his safe word during his domination sessions; he is getting old.

re: #310 Eventual Carrion

And his safe word is “Jesus”

Shibboleth

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jaunte  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:36:50am

re: #287 Big Beautiful Door

I hope Pat can remember his safe word during his domination sessions; he is getting old.

Do you pronouce it “gimp” or “jimp?”

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:36:55am
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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:40:06am

re: #287 Big Beautiful Door

I hope Pat can remember his safe word during his domination sessions; he is getting old.

“Mother”

That’s who Pence copied it from.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:40:38am

re: #330 jaunte

Do you pronouce it “gimp” or “jimp?”

How to Pronounce Gimp

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:40:43am
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jaunte  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:41:29am

No puppet! No puppet!

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Charles Johnson  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:41:55am
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Belafon  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:42:30am

re: #335 jaunte

No puppet! No puppet!

Yeah, but Sarah, we’re talking about government.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:43:22am

JFC

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:44:17am

The instructors from my Public Information Officer class, up on the state Emergency Management Agency Twitter feed:

However, they are now traveling back to Lincoln through this:

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:45:10am

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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Wait, wait, wait, whoa, slow your roll, there, Ms. Huckabee-Sanders. You said “80% of women making the journey” have been raped. Your boss’s claim is about illegal immigrants coming in and raping American women. This is completely disingenuous.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:46:19am
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Romantic Heretic  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:46:45am

re: #287 Big Beautiful Door

I hope Pat can remember his safe word during his domination sessions; he is getting old.

Pastor Robertson is a good example of how submissiveness (in the sexual sense) is baked into fundamentalist theology. They love being relieved of the responsibility of thought. No need to think. Just obey.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:46:56am

*THUD*

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:47:55am

re: #325 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson

@Green_Footballs
The idea that you can stop bad actors from harassing and abusing their targets by telling them it’s against the rules is stunningly naïve.

But oh so Libertarian.

Let My Assholes Go Free!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:48:15am

re: #331 lawhawk

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:48:18am
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Sir John Barron  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:48:53am

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

“This is a well-documented fact…I believe up to 80%, in recent years, of women that are making that journey have been raped in that process.”

If it’s a “well documented fact” why does she have to qualify the claim with “I believe”? And what does “in recent years” mean in this context? The whole statement makes no sense, but we knew that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:50:47am

Oooh, a conservative voter attacking our Trump-supporting senator Deb Fischer …

starherald.com

The writer is incensed about Fischer having a “secret liberal agenda.” Yeah, no, but keep thinking that. That sort of thinking can only help Jane Reybould’s (D) attempt to unseat her this year.

I always look at campaign funding sources. I have to wonder who Deb Fischer is really working for, considering that the majority of her funding comes not from small individual contributions (5.26percent) but from large individual contributions (42.27 percent) and PAC contributions (48.64 percent), leaving 3.84 percent to “other” and $0 candidate self-financing.

Fischer has voted four times for Planned Parenthood and Sanctuary Cities funding, yet she claims to be pro-life; voted for the TPA, which transferred the Senate’s authority on trade to the Executive Branch; and supported the TPP.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:50:54am

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

WH press sec Sanders on those complaining that Trump makes up policy on the fly, sending staff scrambling to implement: “people who don’t understand how civics works”

— John Harwood

Whut? Is “civics” supposed to mean “government”? I don’t think that means what she thinks it means.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:51:30am

re: #347 Sir John Barron

If it’s a “well documented fact” why does she have to qualify the claim with “I believe”? And what does “in recent years” mean in this context? The whole statement makes no sense, but we knew that.

my guess is that Trump moron cooties are highly contagious and everyone in the administration is terminally infected.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:51:40am

re: #346 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

This is what I wish someone would ask her: “If, as the President stated, we have a great economy, maybe the best ever, doesn’t that indicate that trade deficits aren’t a real problem, and we shouldn’t be disrupting the economy with a potentially damaging trade war with China?”

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:51:46am

re: #336 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

And people who may wonder where van Gogh got his impressions for “Starry Night” need not look any further.

Maybe ol’ Vincent had some special way to see the universe and all its creations.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:52:23am

re: #349 Sir John Barron

Whut? Is “civics” supposed to mean “government”? I don’t think that means what she thinks it means.

that’s why my head hit the desk with a *THUD*

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:52:27am

Trump: Trade war!

Investors: WTF?

Kudlow: He doesn’t really mean it.

Trump: Oh yeah, I fucking DO mean it!

Investors: WTF?!?

Dow currently -682.

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Jack Burton  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:52:39am

With the Stock Market doing what it is thanks to President Dunning-Kruger, I figured I should probably go do damage control on my 401k.

It was down a little bit, no shock but all the funds based on stocks were up still based on the last 3 months. It was Bond based funds that were down, and Real Estate investments that were down by quite a bit. I was expecting to have to move all my money into “conservative” investments but that’s not the case.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:52:44am

re: #348 Anymouse 🌹

Fischer has voted four times for Planned Parenthood and Sanctuary Cities funding, yet she claims to be pro-life; voted for the TPA, which transferred the Senate’s authority on trade to the Executive Branch; and supported the TPP.

Sounds like an argle bargle the writer picked up on FB.

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jaunte  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:52:58am

How long before Kudlow is out?

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:53:29am

re: #352 ObserverArt

And people who may wonder where van Gogh got his impressions for “Starry Night” need not look any further.

Maybe ol’ Vincent had some special way to see the universe and all its creations.

That’s what he said on Doctor Who.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:53:38am

re: #318 makeitstop

‘But we’ll probably vote for you again anyway.’

And they will also re-elect Phony Joni because Jesus told them to!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:54:00am

re: #351 Big Beautiful Door

This is what I wish someone would ask her: “If, as the President stated, we have a great economy, maybe the best ever, doesn’t that indicate that trade deficits aren’t a real problem, and we shouldn’t be disrupting the economy with a potentially damaging trade war with China?”

here’s his proof that the tariffs aren’t a problem:

I know, it makes no sense at all…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:54:01am

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

[Embedded content]

“Well-documented fact” - who is she? Cliff Claven?

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:55:07am

re: #359 Joe Bacon 🌹

And they will also re-elect Phony Joni because Jesus told them to!

After all, Joni Ernst used bread bags to put on her boots in the winter, just like we common plebes did.

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:55:08am

re: #319 Targetpractice

“We want a businessman who knows how to make the economy work…wait, why is he selling our asses out?!”

Because he’s making the economy work for him and other ‘biznissmen’. You aren’t included.

And if you thought you were you bought the lie.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:55:09am

re: #357 jaunte

How long before Kudlow is out?

The over under on any generic Trump appointee is about six months. Except Stephen Miller, who, like any other cockroach, should survive the apocalypse.

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:55:32am

re: #358 Belafon

That’s what he said on Doctor Who.

Do tell. I am not a Doctor watcher.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:55:39am

re: #357 jaunte

How long before Kudlow is out?

soon as they find him passed out in a pile of white stuff…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:56:00am

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

here’s his proof that the tariffs aren’t a problem:

[Embedded content]

I know, it makes no sense at all…

Hold on. Aren’t the tariffs still just proposals? As in not actually being charged yet?

So, if Aluminum prices are down, doesn’t that mean demand is also down? Or supply is up, I suppose.

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petesh  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:56:48am

re: #364 Big Beautiful Door

The over under on any generic Trump appointee is about six months. Except Stephen Miller, who, like any other cockroach, should survive the apocalypse.

Hey, Keith, would you mind …? Yes, sometimes you do have to do it yourself.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:57:17am

re: #367 Blind Frog Belly White

Hold on. Aren’t the tariffs still just proposals? As in not actually being charged yet?

So, if Aluminum prices are down, doesn’t that mean demand is also down? Or supply is up, I suppose.

like I said, to no one’s surprise, it makes no sense…

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Dave In Austin  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:57:18am
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:57:35am

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

here’s his proof that the tariffs aren’t a problem:

I know, it makes no sense at all…

Wholly crap there is a lot of derp in that thread.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:57:38am

re: #361 Blind Frog Belly White

“Well-documented fact” - who is she? Cliff Claven?

Narrator: It is not a fact, well-documented or otherwise.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:57:41am

re: #364 Big Beautiful Door

The over under on any generic Trump appointee is about six months. Except Stephen Miller, who, like any other cockroach, should survive the apocalypse.

I say we turn on the light and pound him with a shoe before he scurries away.
//

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Dave In Austin  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:58:21am

re: #357 jaunte

How long before Kudlow is out?

Larry’s screaming in his car and racing to a meeting……

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darthstar  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:58:27am

re: #223 Eventual Carrion

That’s pay off the porn star territory in price.

If I had a nickel for every porn star I had to pay off…I’d have no nickels.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:59:10am

re: #375 darthstar

If I had a nickel for every porn star I had to pay off…I’d have no nickels.

Don’t you have any nickels currently?

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Jack Burton  Apr 6, 2018 • 11:59:43am

re: #361 Blind Frog Belly White

“Well-documented fact” - who is she? Cliff Claven?

What Color is the Sky in Your World?

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darthstar  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:00:22pm

re: #376 Blind Frog Belly White

Don’t you have any nickels currently?

Not a one in my pocket.

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gocart mozart  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:01:03pm

re: #206 Ace-o-aces

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:01:38pm

re: #352 ObserverArt

And people who may wonder where van Gogh got his impressions for “Starry Night” need not look any further.

Maybe ol’ Vincent had some special way to see the universe and all its creations.

I’ve was under the impression that Van Gogh suffered from a transient eye condition.
The Van Gogh Gallery says this is why:

We have had some recent inquiries about Van Gogh’s vision and how it influenced his art work. Van Gogh’s vision problems could be attributed to several factors. It is thought that Van Gogh suffered from lead poisoning from all of the lead-based paints that he used. One of the symptoms of lead poisoning is swelling of the retinas which can cause one to see light in circles like halos around objects. This can be seen in paintings like The Starry Night.

Vincent van GoghVan Gogh also suffered from temporal lobe epilepsy and was thought to have been treated by his doctor, Dr. Gachet, with a drug called digitalis. Digitalis comes from the foxglove plant and can be seen laying in front of Dr. Gachet in Van Gogh’s Portrait of Doctor Gachet. This drug can cause one to see in yellow or see yellow spots which could explain Van Gogh’s consistent use of the color yellow in his later works.

To learn more about the different theories on Van Gogh’s vision and how it influenced his work check out “Colored visions? - The pharmacological history of Van Gogh” from New Science Magazine or learn more about Van Gogh’s health.

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KGxvi  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:02:01pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

It just amazes me how incompetent he really is. We’ve had bad Presidents before but he stands alone.

I’m honestly not surprised he’s incompetent. The only successful business he had in his life was the one started by his father and grandmother. He failed running casinos (which requires a supernatural level of dumbassery to pull off), he failed at steaks, at planes, at fucking everything but renting apartments and office space.

Hell, even his “wildly successful” “reality” “competition” show started to fail after four seasons and they had to switch to the celebrity version.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:02:56pm

re: #378 darthstar

Not a one in my pocket.

So, nobody’s been nickel-and-diming you?

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:03:12pm

re: #349 Sir John Barron

Whut? Is “civics” supposed to mean “government”? I don’t think that means what she thinks it means.

Sanders is a member of the Humpty Dumpty school of language.

When I use a word it means exactly what I want it to mean. No more and no less.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:03:18pm

re: #378 darthstar

Not a one in my pocket.

You have pockets??!??!!!?

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:03:31pm

re: #373 Blind Frog Belly White

I say we turn on the light and pound him with a shoe before he scurries away.
//

A really big shoe.

[ /Ed Sullivan ]

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Jack Burton  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:04:03pm

re: #381 KGxvi

Hell, even his “wildly successful” “reality” “competition” show started to fail after four seasons and they had to switch to the celebrity version.

It needed Sean Connery and Turd Ferguson.

387
KGxvi  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:04:04pm

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

I prefer this version:

Doctor Who - Vincent and The Doctor - Starry night

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:04:29pm

re: #384 Backwoods_Sleuth

You have pockets??!??!!!?

Luxury! Luxury! Why, when I was a lad……

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:04:35pm

Florida man back on top of the news, this time with added doses of responsibility with guns:

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:05:52pm

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

soon as they find him passed out in a pile of white stuff…

With the Dow now -744, means Señor Snort will be at the Betty Ford Clinic next week!

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:06:21pm

re: #365 ObserverArt

Do tell. I am not a Doctor watcher.

One of the better stand alone episodes: imdb.com. The Doctor and Amy travel back to visit Van Gogh. He’s dealing with his psychoses, can’t sell his paintings, and there’s a creature running around that, because of his “vision,” only he can see. At the end, van Gogh, Amy, and the Doctor are looking up at the sky, and van Gogh tries to explain to the Doctor the colors he sees in the nigh sky on a starry night. Also guest stars Bill Nighy.

With the starry night clip posted by #387 KGxvi.

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Jack Burton  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:09:03pm

re: #391 Belafon

Not a Who fanatic but I saw that one. When they take Van Gogh to the museum in modern times and ask Bill Nighy’s character what he thinks of Van Gogh almost brought me to tears.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:10:07pm

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s interesting, but ultimately just handwaving, to attempt to explain artistic visions in terms of the artist’s actual, you know, VISION.

I remember hearing someone discussing El Greco’s elongated people maybe being the result of astigmatism that would make everyone look taller and thinner than they really were. Sounds good, except then his paintings with elongated people would look EVEN MORE elongated than they are, to him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:10:24pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:11:31pm

President Carter chalks up another nation:

cartercenter.org

ATLANTA — The world’s newest nation, South Sudan, has succeeded in interrupting transmission of Guinea worm disease, the country’s minister of health announced Wednesday at The Carter Center. As of the end of February 2018, South Sudan, which gained independence from Sudan in 2011, has recorded zero cases of Guinea worm disease for 15 consecutive months. Because the Guinea worm life cycle is about a year, a 15-month absence of cases indicates the interruption of transmission.

“This is a great achievement for our young nation,” Dr. Riek Gai Kok, South Sudan’s health minister, said during the global Guinea Worm Eradication Program’s 22nd annual review at The Carter Center. “Our health workers and thousands of volunteers have done exemplary work eliminating this disease across our country, and I have no doubt that the World Health Organization will grant certification in due time.”

(more)

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Kilroy was here  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:35:06pm

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

soon as they find him passed out in a pile of white stuff…

(and he didn’t offer to share with the Cheeto Jesus)

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Mike Lamb  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:49:54pm

re: #371 Anymouse 🌹

Wholly crap there is a lot of derp in that thread.

Not sure if “wholly” was a typo, but it works just the same…

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:38:50pm

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #387 KGxvi

re: #391 Belafon

Thanks folks!

I studied the painting in all my Art History classes, and I did hear a bit about his vision being affected.

I have always felt sorry for van Gogh. His paintings now bring vast amounts of money, and he struggled with life. What he might have done had he been better off.


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