A Scathing Piece by Madeleine Albright Says Trump Is Leading the World… Into Fascism

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Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright has the must-read opinion piece of the day: Will We Stop Trump Before It’s Too Late?

Instead of mobilizing international coalitions to take on world problems, he touts the doctrine of “every nation for itself” and has led America into isolated positions on trade, climate change and Middle East peace. Instead of engaging in creative diplomacy, he has insulted United States neighbors and allies, walked away from key international agreements, mocked multilateral organizations and stripped the State Department of its resources and role. Instead of standing up for the values of a free society, Mr. Trump, with his oft-vented scorn for democracy’s building blocks, has strengthened the hands of dictators. No longer need they fear United States criticism regarding human rights or civil liberties. On the contrary, they can and do point to Mr. Trump’s own words to justify their repressive actions.

At one time or another, Mr. Trump has attacked the judiciary, ridiculed the media, defended torture, condoned police brutality, urged supporters to rough up hecklers and — jokingly or not — equated mere policy disagreements with treason. He tried to undermine faith in America’s electoral process through a bogus advisory commission on voter integrity. He routinely vilifies federal law enforcement institutions. He libels immigrants and the countries from which they come. His words are so often at odds with the truth that they can appear ignorant, yet are in fact calculated to exacerbate religious, social and racial divisions. Overseas, rather than stand up to bullies, Mr. Trump appears to like bullies, and they are delighted to have him represent the American brand. If one were to draft a script chronicling fascism’s resurrection, the abdication of America’s moral leadership would make a credible first scene.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:11:44pm
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jaunte  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:13:20pm
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Sir John Barron  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:18:39pm

re: #2 jaunte

Kudlow must not know the civics.

/

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Dave In Austin  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:18:52pm

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sad thing is, I believe China before I believe Kudlow or anyone from this administration for that matter.

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Jack Burton  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:20:57pm

re: #4 Dave In Austin

Sad thing is, I believe China before I believe Kudlow or anyone from this administration for that matter.

Same here, and I don’t trust China to tell the truth as far as I could throw them, and with my bad knee and back I shouldn’t be throwing anyone no less a country… or… something…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:21:43pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:23:08pm

Oh, well, then - that’s not extreme at all.
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:23:53pm

re: #7 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s like saying, “Hitler didn’t want to kill all the Jews that ever were. Just the ones currently extant.”

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gocart mozart  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:25:47pm

She he get points for honesty

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Dave In Austin  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:27:29pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:28:29pm
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jaunte  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:28:30pm

re: #10 Dave In Austin

Then let me pop your epistemic bubble

Ooh, he’s such a needler.

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Jack Burton  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:29:11pm

re: #7 Blind Frog Belly White

What “actual terrorists” have academic jobs? Did I miss Khalid Sheikh Mohammed or Timothy McVeigh getting tenure somewhere?

or are they still. fucking. crying. about. Bill. Fucking. Ayers?

JHC

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Dave In Austin  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:32:27pm

re: #13 Jack Burton

What “actual terrorists” have academic jobs? Did I miss Khalid Sheikh Mohammed or Timothy McVeigh getting tenure somewhere?

or are they still. fucking. crying. about. Bill. Fucking. Ayers?

JHC

Why Yes! Yes they are, Just yesterday………

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KGxvi  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:32:28pm

re: #4 Dave In Austin

Sad thing is, I believe China before I believe Kudlow or anyone from this administration for that matter.

I was listening to MSNBC on the drive home yesterday and someone brought up the point that our best option for confronting China would have been within the context of the TPP. But because Trump and Bernie were against it, and Clinton ultimately caved on it, we ended up on the outside looking in.

Trade, in goods especially, benefits China enormously right now. Free trade is especially good for them (though I tend to be of the opinion that free trade is generally good for everyone, with a few dashes of fair trade practices thrown in). We also know that the Trump position on trade is somewhere between insane and ignorant… ignorantly insane? We also know that Trump has no shame and prefers lies to reality, so why his team wouldn’t lie their fucking asses off in order to blow up the world order in pursuit of their ignorantly insane policy?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:35:00pm

re: #14 Dave In Austin

Why Yes! Yes they are, Just yesterday………

And Ward Churchill, Liberal Icon.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:40:30pm

How relieved she must be right now to not have her reputation held hostage to this shit show.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:42:54pm
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thecommodore  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:43:01pm

Your daily dose of Complicity with fascism in America

Strassel, Hannity, Hewitt, Larry Elder, and anyone else in the right wing fever swamp bears a responsibility for the crisis in American democracy caused by Trump. They need to be held accountable.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:43:56pm

re: #17 goddamnedfrank

One easy way to reduce your trade deficits is to flush your economy down the toilet. People with no money won’t be buying expensive imported goods.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:45:58pm

re: #19 thecommodore

Your daily dose of Complicity with fascism in America

Strassel, Hannity, Hewitt, Larry Elder, and anyone else in the right wing fever swamp bears a responsibility for the crisis in American democracy caused by Trump. They need to be held accountable.

Yeah, I mean it’s not like Trump, from on stage at a campaign event, begged Russia to hack his opponent’s emails. Or that anyone in his campaign was in contact with WL, or that Junior met with Russians promising dirt on Hillary, nothing like that happened.
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:46:49pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:46:53pm

re: #18 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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The other point would be that, while Williamson may not be actually proposing to execute women who had abortions in the past, his position is still that they are worthy of the death penalty.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:47:32pm

re: #7 Blind Frog Belly White

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Oh, well, then - that’s not extreme at all.
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Nichols is also addressing his own bullshit strawman. The person he’s talking to never said Williamson wanted to kill women for having past abortions.

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Sir John Barron  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:47:42pm

re: #19 thecommodore

Your daily dose of Complicity with fascism in America

Strassel, Hannity, Hewitt, Larry Elder, and anyone else in the right wing fever swamp bears a responsibility for the crisis in American democracy caused by Trump. They need to be held accountable.

Translation: We can’t explain Trump’s behavior or the lies or the indictments or the meeting between Junior and the Russians or any of that, so we will declare your investigation invalid because of DOSSIER.

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KerFuFFler  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:49:58pm

Albright is right about Trump’s disastrous unraveling of the international partnerships that promote the welfare of all the signatories. I think Trump does not fundamentally believe that there is even such a thing as a win/win solution to a problem. The only kind of winning that gives him a special tingle is when he dominates a “loser”. So, that is the only kind of win he seeks.

This is really bad for trade and diplomacy.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:50:18pm

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹

When our local cinema was fully renovated, inside and out, a few years back, the first movie they showed - in glorious 70 mm - was 2001: A Space Odyssey.

For 40 Kč (about $2).

Oh yeah, I was there.

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Kilroy was here  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:50:32pm

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹

2001 is a terrible movie. There’s no skin. There are no monsters. No laser battle between star destroyers. There’s not even a monkey. Every movie needs a monkey.

I beg to differ.. It had a monkey..

2001: A Space Odyssey monkey scene

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:51:28pm
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electrotek  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:51:42pm

Has the far-left condemned her for bringing up her Iraq sanctions comment yet? I’m awaiting their usual predictable behavior.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:52:31pm

re: #24 goddamnedfrank

Nichols is also addressing his own bullshit strawman. The person he’s talking to never said Williamson wanted to kill women for having past abortions.

However, as I point out immediately above your post, he believes they’re worthy of being killed.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:52:52pm

re: #27 Dr Lizardo

When our local cinema was fully renovated, inside and out, a few years back, the first movie they showed - in glorious 70 mm - was 2001: A Space Odyssey.

For 40 Kč (about $2).

Oh yeah, I was there.

That’s one of the first things I watch whenever I upgrade the projector in my home theater, which is in reality not as fancy as it sounds.

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KGxvi  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:53:38pm

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹

2001 had monkeys… or at least apes.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:55:05pm

re: #31 Blind Frog Belly White

However, as I point out immediately above your post, he believes they’re worthy of being killed.

Put another way, even if he doesn’t currently want them killed, he thinks they should have been.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:55:14pm

re: #32 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That’s one of the first things I watch whenever I upgrade the projector in my home theater, which is in reality not as fancy as it sounds.

My go-to movie for that was the Fifth Element. Now, it’s Thor: Ragnarok.

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wrenchwench  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:56:30pm

re: #32 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That’s one of the first things I watch whenever I upgrade the projector in my home theater, which is in reality not as fancy as it sounds.

I once watched it on a 3” TV screen. Black and white. Had previously seen it in a theater the day it was released, so I knew what I was missing.

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KGxvi  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:56:55pm

re: #26 KerFuFFler

Albright is right about Trump’s disastrous unraveling of the international partnerships that promote the welfare of all the signatories. I think Trump does does fundamentally believe that there is even such a thing as a win/win solution to a problem. The only kind of winning that gives him a special tingle is when he dominates a “loser”. So, that is the only kind of win he seeks.

This is really bad for trade and diplomacy.

Which just furthers the lie of his being a “dealmaker.” People who make deals try to make everyone feel like they got something out of it. Or conversely, the old lawyer adage that in a good settlement, everyone feels like they left something on the table.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:56:59pm

re: #25 Sir John Barron

There is nothing wrong with Steele’s dossier. Much of what it reveals is true.
newsweek.com

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petesh  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:57:52pm

re: #11 Stanley Sea

Being a cynic, I double-checked that this was real. It is. And it’s beautiful! Go on, give them ten bucks if you’ve got it to space.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:58:41pm

re: #31 Blind Frog Belly White

So he’s just as dangerously unhinged as Williamson. Good to know that although he’s supposedly a Never Trumper, he still is callous about women’s reproductive rights to the point where he’s okay with killing women who get abortions. The last time I checked, abortions are perfectly legal in this country.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:59:05pm

re: #7 Blind Frog Belly White

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Oh, well, then - that’s not extreme at all.
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Has anyone seen the movie “Road Trip”? There’s a scene where 4 guys in college are discussing “rules” of dating, such as if you date two girls at one time, it’s not cheating since they cancel each other out. The odd one of the group then says: “It’s not cheating if you put peanut butter on your balls and let your dog lick it off.” The other three are shocked/horrified, and he keeps saying “It’s because it’s your dog”.

That’s what I think of every time I hear someone say “But Williamson said to make it illegal first!”

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:59:24pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 12:59:54pm

re: #37 KGxvi

Which just furthers the lie of his being a “dealmaker.” People who make deals try to make everyone feel like they got something out of it. Or conversely, the old lawyer adage that in a good settlement, everyone feels like they left something on the table.

Remember also that even when Trump strikes what appears to be a ‘win/win’ deal, it’s just a ruse to get whatever he wanted out of the other side, with no intention of fulfilling his side of the bargain.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:00:57pm

re: #31 Blind Frog Belly White

However, as I point out immediately above your post, he believes they’re worthy of being killed.

Exactly, it’s a bullshit distinction and one created entirely to distract from the inherent indefensibility of the position.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:01:54pm

re: #44 goddamnedfrank

Exactly, it’s a bullshit distinction and one created entirely to distract from the inherent indefensibility of the position.

He wants women dead. We’re just haggling over the start date.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:02:25pm

re: #42 goddamnedfrank

This kind of bullshit is why I just don’t engage with Nichols any more. You can’t break through his ideological blindness, and in typical right wing fashion if he starts to feel like he’s losing a debate he’ll lash out in personal terms.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:03:08pm

re: #45 Belafon

He wants women dead. We’re just haggling over the start date.

“No, no, no! You’ve got it all wrong! He doesn’t want to kill you. He just wishes you were dead.”

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:03:22pm

re: #20 Blind Frog Belly White

One easy way to reduce your trade deficits is to flush your economy down the toilet. People with no money won’t be buying expensive imported goods.

Which is what happened in 2008. Millions lost their jobs, bingo! The trade deficit dropped dramatically!

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:04:18pm

The Party of “Personal Responsibility” never take responsibility for their failed policies, they always put the blame on Illegals, Muslims, Homosexuals, Feminazis, Libtards, Social Justice Warriors.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:05:16pm

re: #23 Blind Frog Belly White

The other point would be that, while Williamson may not be actually proposing to execute women who had abortions in the past, his position is still that they are worthy of the death penalty.

But did he actually say that? Couldn’t he advocate that they be sentenced to death for crimes against humanity?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:05:54pm

re: #46 Charles Johnson

This kind of bullshit is why I just don’t engage with Nichols any more. You can’t break through his ideological blindness, and in typical right wing fashion if he starts to feel like he’s losing a debate he’ll lash out in personal terms.

Exactly. His posts the last day or two on Williamson have the flavor of a man who staked out a position he can’t really defend, so he resorts to disdainful whataboutism.

I mean, for fuck’s sake - Ward Churchill?

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MsJ  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:05:56pm

re: #19 thecommodore

Your daily dose of Complicity with fascism in America

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Strassel, Hannity, Hewitt, Larry Elder, and anyone else in the right wing fever swamp bears a responsibility for the crisis in American democracy caused by Trump. They need to be held accountable.

Ah, the WSJ. This was their brilliance today in my notifications.

Top 20% of Americans Will Pay 87% of Income Tax

Households with $150,000 or more in income make up 52% of total income nationally but pay large portion of total taxes

The results show how steeply progressive the U.S. income tax remains. For 2018, households in the top 20% will have income of about $150,000 or more and 52% of total income, about the same as in 2017. But they will pay about 87% of income taxes, up from about 84% last year.

By contrast, the lower 60% of households, who have income up to about $86,000, receive about 27% of income. As a group, this tier will pay no net federal income tax in 2018 vs. 2% of it last year.

We’re so progressive.

They excluded 2019 when the real fun begins.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:06:02pm

From the previous thread:

re: #397 Mike Lamb

Not sure if “wholly” was a typo, but it works just the same…

It was intentional. When I hear BS policy or political statements that are worthy of a couple of facepalms, I frequently characterise those statements as “wholly crap,” or sometimes write “Wholly crap, Batman!”

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:07:23pm

re: #32 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That’s one of the first things I watch whenever I upgrade the projector in my home theater, which is in reality not as fancy as it sounds.

Seeing this in 70 mm, with a fully-upgraded sound system, was one of the finest cinematic experiences I’ve ever enjoyed.

2001 A Space Odyssey - ending

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:08:00pm

re: #50 Big Beautiful Door

But did he actually say that? Couldn’t he advocate that they be sentenced to death for crimes against humanity?

Well, I’d say it’s not necessary to put words in his mouth because the words HE puts there are already damning enough.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:09:09pm

re: #52 MsJ

Ah, the WSJ. This was their brilliance today in my notifications.

We’re so progressive.

They excluded 2019 when the real fun begins.

Why don’t they talk about wealth concentration?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:09:13pm

re: #54 Dr Lizardo

Seeing this in 70 mm, with a fully-upgraded sound system, was one of the finest cinematic experiences I’ve ever enjoyed.

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Visually stunning, but mostly because of the contrast with all Science Fiction films before it.

Mind numbingly dull, however.

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KGxvi  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:09:46pm

re: #49 DodgerFan1988

The Party of “Personal Responsibility” never take responsibility for their failed policies, they always put the blame on Illegals, Muslims, Homosexuals, Feminazis, Libtards, Social Justice Warriors.

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It’s just a more complex version of three card monte… look over here while I take your money. Which is probably about as complex of thinking as Trump has ever been able to do.

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electrotek  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:10:26pm

re: #54 Dr Lizardo

Seeing this in 70 mm, with a fully-upgraded sound system, was one of the finest cinematic experiences I’ve ever enjoyed.

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Parodied so many times. Not going to lie, watching The Simpsons at a very early age in the early 90s helped pique my curiousity in 2001: A Space Odyssey many years later, in addition to his other works.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:10:26pm

re: #52 MsJ

The Wall Street Journal op-ed page exists to make billionaires feel better about diving into their money bins like Scrooge McDucks, while vast portions of Americans don’t read it at all and live in poverty.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:15:13pm

Wanting to get in on the action of the New York Times trying to interview every Trump voter in the galaxy, Huffington Post weighs in with this on the front page of their Website:

I’m A Liberal Feminist And Next Month I’m Marrying a Trump Voter

Because, you know, marrying a person who supports a president advocating for war crimes, hatred for minorities (and convicted for racism in rental practices), and wholesale theft of government money to pad his business, along with taking her rights is just the angle we need from a liberal. /s not necessary

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:15:29pm

re: #59 electrotek

Parodied so many times. Not going to lie, watching The Simpsons at a very early age in the early 90s helped pique my curiousity in 2001: A Space Odyssey many years later, in addition to his other works.

Speaking of 2001, I just saw this little snippet off Wikipedia that caught my attention:

Director Christopher Nolan is set to present a mastered 70mm print of 2001 for the film’s 50th Anniversary at the Cannes Film Festival on May 12th, 2018. The new 70mm print is a photochemical recreation made from the original camera negative, something which hasn’t happened since the film’s original theatrical run

I’d love to be there for that.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:15:31pm
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KGxvi  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:16:33pm

re: #63 Patricia Kayden

I can’t wait until Trump tries to make him Attorney General.

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electrotek  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:16:54pm

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹

Wanting to get in on the action of the New York Times trying to interview every Trump voter in the galaxy, Huffington Post weighs in with this on the front page of their Website:

I’m A Liberal Feminist And Next Month I’m Marrying a Trump Voter

Because, you know, marrying a person who supports a president advocating for war crimes, hatred for minorities (and convicted for racism in rental practices), and wholesale theft of government money to pad his business, along with taking her rights is just the angle we need from a liberal. /s not necessary

She must be a white girl. Go figure.

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MsJ  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:17:37pm

re: #56 Mike Lamb

Why don’t they talk about wealth concentration?

How they present the story is the perfect way to present facts in isolation of any context. Percentages and dollars are used but isolated from just what you said, concentration and what that actually means.

Sure, rich folks pay more in dollars because they make that much more in dollars and pay less in percentage of that income than others who have much lower incomes.

And what the fuck does this even mean?

For 2018, households in the top 20% will have income of about $150,000 or more and 52% of total income, about the same as in 2017.

That’s a total bullshit way of presenting that data.

The WSJ really blows.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:18:35pm

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹

Wanting to get in on the action of the New York Times trying to interview every Trump voter in the galaxy, Huffington Post weighs in with this on the front page of their Website:

I’m A Liberal Feminist And Next Month I’m Marrying a Trump Voter

Because, you know, marrying a person supports a president advocating for war crimes, hatred for minorities (and convicted for racism in rental practices), and wholesale theft of government money to pad his business, along with taking her rights is just the angle we need from a liberal. /s not necessary

Why are we supposed to care who she is marrying? How does that personal decision impact us personally or on a national basis? This is getting ridiculous. Shame on HP.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:19:15pm

re: #66 MsJ

How they present the story is the perfect way to present facts in isolation of any context. Percentages and dollars are used but isolated from just what you said, concentration and what that actually means.

Sure, rich folks pay more in dollars because they make that much more in dollars and pay less in percentage of that income than others who have much lower incomes.

And what the fuck does this even mean?

That’s a total bullshit way of presenting that data.

The WSJ really blows.

They want to let us know how Rich People suffer under the crushing burden of taxation and how it keeps them from creating jobs…

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:19:24pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:21:52pm
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Jay C  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:23:20pm

re: #62 Dr Lizardo

Speaking of 2001, I just saw this little snippet off Wikipedia that caught my attention:

Director Christopher Nolan is set to present a mastered 70mm print of 2001 for the film’s 50th Anniversary at the Cannes Film Festival on May 12th, 2018. The new 70mm print is a photochemical recreation made from the original camera negative, something which hasn’t happened since the film’s original theatrical run

I’d love to be there for that.

Ummm, “photochemical recreation made from the original camera negative”?? Am I missing some technical point here, or is that what we lay folk would simply term “a new print”??

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KGxvi  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:24:36pm

re: #67 Patricia Kayden

Why are we supposed to care who she is marrying? How does that personal decision impact us personally or on a national basis? This is getting ridiculous. Shame on HP.

It’s actually an interesting read about dating in your 40s and being able to recognize that not everyone who voted for the other candidate is terrible. I liked this bit:

On the one hand I was horrified. And yet. While canvassing for Hillary, I’d developed a genuine interest in objections to the most qualified candidate ever. I wanted to hear what he had to say.

Paul said he liked Trump’s economic policies better, which struck me as ill-informed. I ranted at him about said policies, but still didn’t cut off the conversation.

“I voted for Bill but I’m not a fan of either of the Clintons,” he wrote.

Humanity is a complicated fucking mess, always good to remember there are actual people involved.

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BeachDem  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:24:53pm

I can’t believe Kevin Williamson not getting a job at the Atlantic is the hill all these morons want to die on. First of all, I think he’s a crappy writer and he’s written and said many objectionable things besides his abortion bullshit. And it’s almost identical to what happened with Quinn Norton and the NYT when her racist, homophobic, Nazi-befriending past came to light.

I don’t recall all the right-wing noisemakers getting all up in arms over than one. Hmmm—wonder what the difference could be???

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:26:48pm

re: #71 Jay C

Well yes and no. Big cities like NYC, Chicago and Los Angeles got prints off the original master negative. But usually a set of less perfect “print” negatives were made to make the playable theater copies in mass numbers..

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:28:11pm

re: #71 Jay C

Ummm, “photochemical recreation made from the original camera negative”?? Am I missing some technical point here, or is that what we lay folk would simply term “a new print”??

It means he’s producing the print the old fashioned way, rather than digitally scanning and remastering the original.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:28:22pm

Chasing that chicken round the yard again … conservatives with their eyes on the important stuff, as always, not pesky things like interference with our republic’s institutions and elections:

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:29:35pm

re: #75 Ace-o-aces

No digital intermediate. Now guys are experimenting with 8k digital projected onto film for the best of both. Wait and see I guess.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:30:37pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:33:53pm

re: #78 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Nothing fascist about that… .

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KGxvi  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:35:31pm

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹

Jesus Christ:

The amendment, introduced by House Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.), would require a “true majority” in both the House and Senate to pass tax increases and a three-fifths majority in both chambers to increase the debt limit.

I can’t, I just fucking can’t.

The actual proposed amendment is just crazy:

”SECTION 1. Total outlays for any fiscal year shall not exceed total receipts for that fiscal year, unless three-fifths of the whole number of each House of Congress shall provide by law for a specific excess of outlays over receipts by a rollcall vote.

”SECTION 2. Total outlays for any fiscal year shall not exceed one-fifth of economic output of the United States, unless two-thirds of each House of Congress shall provide for a specific increase of outlays above this amount.

”SECTION 3. The limit on the debt of the United States held by the public shall not be increased unless three-fifths of the whole number of each House shall provide by law for such an increase by a rollcall vote.

At least it gives them a five year window to actually balance the budget if this shitburger is ever ratified (narrator: it never will be).

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:35:52pm

re: #71 Jay C

Ummm, “photochemical recreation made from the original camera negative”?? Am I missing some technical point here, or is that what we lay folk would simply term “a new print”??

I honestly don’t know. Could well be technical jargon for “a new print”.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:35:56pm
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:37:19pm

re: #75 Ace-o-aces

It means he’s producing the print the old fashioned way, rather than digitally scanning and remastering the original.

Ah, OK.

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KGxvi  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:37:28pm

re: #78 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Can we disband the Department of Homeland Security and put all it’s agencies back in the departments where they actually belong?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:37:32pm

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹

House to vote to amend Constitution to require balanced budget

Now that they have created a deficit with their tax cuts, this will be their ploy to cut every social program and government agency back to the bone

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:37:38pm

re: #80 KGxvi

So, they’re going for a three-fifths compromise? /s

One thing doesn’t change in conservatism: their ideas.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:37:42pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:38:27pm

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Now that they have created a deficit with their tax cuts, this will be their ploy to cut every social program and government agency back to the bone

Would sure bite them in the butt if instead a Democratic majority massively raised taxes on the wealthy and multi-national corporations instead …

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gocart mozart  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:38:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:39:48pm

re: #89 gocart mozart

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NRO still won’t hire me after calling Jonah Goldberg a gasbag who doesn’t know fascism from his asshole.//

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:39:58pm

re: #84 KGxvi

Can we disband the Department of Homeland Security and put all it’s agencies back in the departments where they actually belong?

They’re just a symptom. We need to disband the Republican party for betraying Western values.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:41:23pm

re: #87 Ace-o-aces

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:42:39pm

So, lemme get this straight - the clowns who voted in a tax cut that already drove the deficit back up to the $1Trillion range, and then passed a spending bill that made it even worse - THOSE GUYS passed a Balanced Budget Amendment?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA..
*gasp*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA..
*cough,cough*

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KGxvi  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:43:37pm

re: #91 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

They’re just a symptom. We need to disband the Republican party for betraying Western values.

From day 1 I thought the idea of the DHS was a terrible idea. All those agencies that got transferred to it were in other departments for a reason. For example, the Secret Service was part of the Treasury Department because, besides protecting the first and second families, their main purpose is to stop counterfeiting.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:44:27pm

re: #93 Blind Frog Belly White

So, lemme get this straight - the clowns who voted in a tax cut that already drove the deficit back up to the $1Trillion range, and then passed a spending bill that made it even worse - THOSE GUYS passed a Balanced Budget Amendment?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA..
*gasp*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA..
*cough,cough*

The point is to require severe cuts across social programmes to meet a balanced budget. That has been a goal of ZEGS since college.

Too bad for them their amendment doesn’t say those cuts can come from the military… .

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:46:28pm

Have a good one, Lizards. Time to call it a day.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:47:33pm

I have to go out in the blizzard to the village wells. (A maintenance problem came up.) Be back in a bit …

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:49:16pm

re: #52 MsJ

Ah, the WSJ. This was their brilliance today in my notifications.

Top 20% of Americans Will Pay 87% of Income Tax

Households with $150,000 or more in income make up 52% of total income nationally but pay large portion of total taxes

The results show how steeply progressive the U.S. income tax remains. For 2018, households in the top 20% will have income of about $150,000 or more and 52% of total income, about the same as in 2017. But they will pay about 87% of income taxes, up from about 84% last year.

By contrast, the lower 60% of households, who have income up to about $86,000, receive about 27% of income. As a group, this tier will pay no net federal income tax in 2018 vs. 2% of it last year.

We’re so progressive.

They excluded 2019 when the real fun begins.

I always hate this characterization because it excludes the other income tax: FICA taxes. Let’s add them back in. You may also want to add in all the other taxes people pay to see how much they support government: sales tax, property taxes, gas taxes etc. The WSJ has always been dishonest to its core, especially anything on its opinion pages, — and that preceded its acquisition by Murdoch

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:50:05pm

re: #38 Patricia Kayden

There is nothing wrong with Steele’s dossier. Much of what it reveals is true.
newsweek.com

Had there been a dossier acquired in similar fashion alleging Clinton criminality, these same fuckers would be demanding the FBI handle it the way they have done thus far with the Steele dossier.

Wait. Check that.

They would have demanded even more people work on the investigation, devote all the resources across the IC and FBI/DOJ to the matter, and turn over every single rock to find criminality in Clinton’s past.

Mueller’s found independent of Steele all kinds of criminality. He’s independently corroborated significant portions of Steele dossier. Trump’s confirmed it himself with various statements about coordinating/meeting/conspiring with Russians to get info/leverage on Clinton.

What Trump obsures/hides is that Russia has leverage on Trump.

Trump is the one bending the knee to Russia.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:54:03pm

re: #98 Hecuba’s daughter

I always hate this characterization because it excludes the other income tax: FICA taxes. Let’s add them back in. You may also want to add in all the other taxes people pay to see how much they support government: sales tax, property taxes, gas taxes etc. The WSJ has always been dishonest to its core, especially anything on its opinion pages, — and that preceded its acquisition by Murdoch

There’s a reason why the top income brackets are taxed so much more than the lower ones, and that’s because those at the top can afford to shoulder more of the tax burden whereas those at the bottom can’t. If you taxed the poor at 25%, there’d be a lot more homeless and starving. Oh, and let’s not forget that this is the income tax - a lot of America’s wealthiest don’t earn their money through income, but through capital gains. So the tax-bashers need to quit their bitching and figure out how to state their argument that doesn’t come across as, “Fuck poor people.” Because I will have none of that shit.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:55:13pm

re: #72 KGxvi

I’m not going to read the article but if her fiance voted for a racist bully then he condones racism and bullying. It’s as simple as that. There’s nothing complex about that. Trump made it plain who he was so if you voted for him, I can safely assume that you’re okay with him and all of his faults (which include bigotry, bullying and the promotion of violence against protesters). I’m not giving any of his supporters a break.

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:55:26pm

re: #7 Blind Frog Belly White

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Oh, well, then - that’s not extreme at all.
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Oh look. Nichols takes another one for the team.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:56:19pm

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹

I have to go out in the blizzard to the village wells. (A maintenance problem came up.) Be back in a bit …

Wow. A blizzard in April. Stay safe.

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:56:27pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:56:36pm
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Swampwitch  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:57:36pm
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mmmirele  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:58:11pm

re: #7 Blind Frog Belly White

I am fucking not in the mood for privileged white men to pontificate about how we have to listen to every opinion, even the opinion of that white guy over there who would murder 400,000 women every year because we got abortions. Fuck that noise.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:58:29pm

re: #104 lawhawk

Speaking of South Carolina…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:59:22pm

re: #104 lawhawk

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Go ahead because it worked out so great last time you seceded over a temper tantrum.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:59:47pm

re: #104 lawhawk

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Let them go. Who cares?

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JordanRules  Apr 6, 2018 • 1:59:48pm

re: #87 Ace-o-aces

I just read Molly’s piece. It was very well done.

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darthstar  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:00:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:00:16pm

re: #108 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Speaking of South Carolina…

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Wanted, a responsible Republican gun owner.

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BeachDem  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:00:22pm

re: #104 lawhawk

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South Carolina GOP introduce bill to secede from US over gun rights

And if that doesn’t work, we’ll just go with axe throwing—that’s right—axe throwing.

Will ax throwing be the next amusement near Ocean Boulevard?

myhorrynews.com

Sigh.

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plansbandc  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:01:35pm

re: #73 BeachDem

Ooh ooh!! I know!!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:02:21pm

re: #107 mmmirele

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I am fucking not in the mood for privileged white men to pontificate about how we havre to listen to every opinion, even the opinion of that white guy over there who would murder 400,000 women every year because we got abortions. Fuck that noise.

Tom may be anti Trump but he’s still a colossal prick. I want strict gun laws. Doesn’t mean I want draconian punishment for gun owners. Pretty telling that KW’s apologists are almost universally male.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:02:23pm

“… The steel and aluminum industries in China will soon be slapped with tariffs up to $50 billion by President Donald Trump. On Thursday, after China announced their intentions to retaliate against the United States with $50 billion in tariffs of their own against U.S. goods, Trump warned that his administration would respond with another set of tariffs, this time targeting $100 billion worth of Chinese goods.

Exempt from the proposed tariffs against China, however, is the clothing manufacturing industry. …”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:03:09pm

re: #117 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I’m sure that’s just a coincidence.:/

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:04:57pm

re: #100 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

There’s a reason why the top income brackets are taxed so much more than the lower ones, and that’s because those at the top can afford to shoulder more of the tax burden whereas those at the bottom can’t. If you taxed the poor at 25%, there’d be a lot more homeless and starving. Oh, and let’s not forget that this is the income tax - a lot of America’s wealthiest don’t earn their money through income, but through capital gains. So the tax-bashers need to quit their bitching and figure out how to state their argument that doesn’t come across as, “Fuck poor people.” Because I will have none of that shit.

We all found out that Romney’s actual tax rate was well under what most middle income people were paying.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:05:50pm

re: #119 Belafon

We all found out that Romney’s actual tax rate was well under what most middle income people were paying.

It was less than what MacDonald’s workers pay…

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BeachDem  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:06:19pm

re: #108 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Speaking of South Carolina…

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And that’s why Archie Parnell needs all the help he can get (he came within 3 points of this asshole in the special election to replace the horrible Mick Mulvaney, and he’s got a good shot this November.)

archieparnell.com

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BeachDem  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:06:57pm

re: #110 Patricia Kayden

Let them go. Who cares?

Well, it would make life difficult for some of us who live here.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:07:12pm

re: #104 lawhawk

They know the kids are coming, and there’s nothing they can do to stop them.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:09:29pm

Important Research Question.

Your Opinion Matters

Every Vote Counts

Who Wore it Better?

Barf vs. Trump
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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:10:24pm

re: #122 BeachDem

Well, it would make life difficult for some of us who live here.

Indeed that’s why I always disagree with the letbthen secede attitude.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:11:58pm

re: #101 Patricia Kayden

I’m not going to read the article but if her fiance voted for a racist bully then he condones racism and bullying. It’s as simple as that. There’s nothing complex about that. Trump made it plain who he was so if you voted for him, I can safely assume that you’re okay with him and all of his faults (which include bigotry, bullying and the promotion of violence against protesters). I’m not giving any of his supporters a break.

I walk a fine line in my village since the overwhelming majority voted for Trump. If I was to push everyone in town out who voted for Trump, I would be left with one other person besides my wife.

Instead it’s more along the lines of pointing out problems when I see or hear of them with his administration. I doubt I’ll even sway most of the town, but this is the same town that pulled the lever for him and put me in local office twice. I can’t figure it out.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:13:44pm

re: #124 I Would Prefer Not To

Important Research Question.

Your Opinion Matters

Every Vote Counts

Who Wore it Better?

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Barf

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:15:28pm

re: #103 Patricia Kayden

Wow. A blizzard in April. Stay safe.

Thanks, I’m already back. (Needed parts for r/o units.)

Hazardous Weather Outlook
National Weather Service Cheyenne WY
335 AM MDT Fri Apr 6 2018

NEZ019>021-054-055-096-WYZ103-106>108-116>119-070945-
Scotts Bluff-Banner-Morrill-Kimball-Cheyenne-South Sioux-
North Laramie Range-
Central Laramie Range and Southwest Platte County-
East Platte County-Goshen County-South Laramie Range-
South Laramie Range Foothills-Central Laramie County-
East Laramie County-
335 AM MDT Fri Apr 6 2018

This hazardous weather outlook is for portions of western
Nebraska and southeast Wyoming.

.DAY ONE…TODAY AND TONIGHT

A Winter Weather Advisory is in effect until 6 pm today. Expect
periods of snow today with total accumulations of 2 to 5 inches,
with 4 to 8 inches for the mountains.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:15:31pm

re: #124 I Would Prefer Not To

Important Research Question.

Your Opinion Matters

Every Vote Counts

Who Wore it Better?

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I will always choose John Candy over Trump.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:18:21pm

re: #100 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

There’s a reason why the top income brackets are taxed so much more than the lower ones, and that’s because those at the top can afford to shoulder more of the tax burden whereas those at the bottom can’t. If you taxed the poor at 25%, there’d be a lot more homeless and starving. Oh, and let’s not forget that this is the income tax - a lot of America’s wealthiest don’t earn their money through income, but through capital gains. So the tax-bashers need to quit their bitching and figure out how to state their argument that doesn’t come across as, “Fuck poor people.” Because I will have none of that shit.

Capital gains is included in income. The problem is that it’s not clear what entry is being used to define income. Is it before all the adjustments so that it actually reflects real income? For example, when Trump had that 1 billion dollar offset to his income in 1995, would this show that he had negative income? Or would his income be counted before that offset?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:19:36pm

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹

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Only one day?

They have no clue.

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KGxvi  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:21:33pm

re: #126 Anymouse 🌹

I walk a fine line in my village since the overwhelming majority voted for Trump. If I was to push everyone in town out who voted for Trump, I would be left with one other person besides my wife.

Instead it’s more along the lines of pointing out problems when I see or hear of them with his administration. I doubt I’ll even sway most of the town, but this is the same town that pulled the lever for him and put me in local office twice. I can’t figure it out.

People are more than the vote they cast in an election.

Most of my immediate family voted for Trump, I did not. It doesn’t mean that I’m going to disown them or they are going to disown me. It also doesn’t mean that we can’t celebrate and enjoy things together without everything turning into a political argument.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:22:42pm

re: #131 Joe Bacon 🌹

Only one day?

They have no clue.

Today is Gold Star Spouse Day. Gold Star Mothers and Families Day is in September.

No proclamation for the day from Trump of course. That said, I imagine a lot of Gold Star Spouses would really rather not here from him after the way he’s consistently treated Gold Star Families.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:23:29pm

re: #132 KGxvi

People are more than the vote they cast in an election.

Most of my immediate family voted for Trump, I did not. It doesn’t mean that I’m going to disown them or they are going to disown me. It also doesn’t mean that we can’t celebrate and enjoy things together without everything turning into a political argument.

There are Trump voters and then there are vocal, in-your-face Trump supporters. Just like there are Christians and there are Bible-thumping evangelicals.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:24:44pm
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BlueSpotinAL  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:25:38pm

re: #52 MsJ

Ah, the WSJ. This was their brilliance today in my notifications.

We’re so progressive.

They excluded 2019 when the real fun begins.

What is this mythical place where the only tax people pay is federal income tax?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:26:18pm

re: #136 BlueSpotinAL

What is this mythical place where the only tax people pay is federal income tax?

in the land of the 57% percent

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JordanRules  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:27:40pm
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Skip Intro  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:29:51pm
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bratwurst  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:29:59pm

Sounds like a lifestyle choice. That is ok with me, any love is good love between consenting adults.

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electrotek  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:30:04pm

re: #138 JordanRules

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Why the fuck does it always have to something as drastic as this to highlight this?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:32:41pm

re: #140 bratwurst

Sounds like a lifestyle choice. That is ok with me, any love is good love between consenting adults.

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Well if that’s what you’re into, Pat, I won’t judge your lifestyle choice :)

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:33:24pm

re: #57 Blind Frog Belly White

Visually stunning, but mostly because of the contrast with all Science Fiction films before it.

Mind numbingly dull, however.

It is a film. Not really a science fiction movie. I think it was a mistake to market that way, but not a lot of America is into art films.

And a lot of Kubrick movies have a slow pace as he wants the scenes to be taken in.

Kubrick made single pictures into a film and each cell can be taken as a photograph. He labored over the scenes, the lighting, the effect of both on the eye.

That is how I take him. Enjoy the moving pictures. A faster slideshow of great photos.

And I will admit, I do not like a lot of modern movies because they are all so much action effects they get boring and to me stupid in their own ways. Give me a well shot movie with a great mind bending story and I am all in. Or, give me art.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:33:54pm

Rep. Jim Costa (D-CA16).

The pins shown in the tweet are for different things: On the left is for a family member who died in combat. On the right, a family member who died in conditions other than combat (such as training). The pins may only be worn or displayed by those authorised by Congress to wear or display them.

Gold Star Family members treat group members of this club no one wants to be a member of the same (in both cases, the military member signed up for service, so the nature of death on active duty isn’t as important as it is to non-military persons).

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TedStriker  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:35:10pm

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹

I have to go out in the blizzard to the village wells. (A maintenance problem came up.) Be back in a bit …

Be careful you don’t end up like this:

“I stayed out too long and ended up a Klingon-sicle!”
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mmmirele  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:35:44pm

re: #112 darthstar

Why can’t we hear from someone who isn’t a privileged white male? I’d like to get the take of a woman of color, for example. I would bet money she’d have a very different opinion.

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wrenchwench  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:36:55pm

Xochitl Torres Small

Just thought you’d like to see NM’s next congressperson. She’s going to take Steve Pearce’s seat, because he’s decided to get trounced in the race for governor. I like the idea of having a rep whose name Trump will not be able to pronounce. You can call her Zosh. Long ‘o’.

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electrotek  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:37:26pm

Just want to say, I still hate Libertarians with all my heart.

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calochortus  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:38:01pm

re: #148 wrenchwench

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Just thought you’d like to see NM’s next congressperson. She’s going to take Steve Pearce’s seat, because he’s decided to get trounced in the race for governor. I like the idea of having a rep whose name Trump will not be able to pronounce. You can call her Zosh. Long ‘o’.

What? He can’t pronounce “Congresswoman Small?”

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MsJ  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:38:31pm

re: #111 JordanRules

I just read Molly’s piece. It was very well done.

What piece is this? I don’t see a link.

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wrenchwench  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:38:55pm

re: #150 calochortus

What? He can’t pronounce “Congresswoman Small?”

It’ll burn his mouth.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:38:59pm

re: #147 mmmirele

Why can’t we hear from someone who isn’t a privileged white male? I’d like to get the take of a woman of color, for example. I would bet money she’d have a very different opinion.

Or, hell, even a woman of no color. Mostly, I see a lot of guys defending him. I suspect that even for a lot of anti-choice women, the idea of hanging women for choosing abortion is not something that can be fobbed off as ‘just one of his views’.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:39:25pm

re: #139 Skip Intro

When did Jim Carey become an activist? Love it!!

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:39:43pm

re: #149 electrotek

Just want to say, I still hate Libertarians with all my heart.

I can’t say that as my wife was once one (she got better after she married me /s).

She is appalled at the take Reason Magazine’s senior editor wrote about the Williamson firing though.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:40:23pm

re: #154 Patricia Kayden

When did Jim Carey become an activist? Love it!!

He’s got a bit of anti-vax to answer for.

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Skip Intro  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:40:28pm

re: #154 Patricia Kayden

When did Jim Carey become an activist? Love it!!

Yeah, I think he’s good.

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Jack Burton  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:40:56pm

re: #154 Patricia Kayden

When did Jim Carey become an activist? Love it!!

Anti-vaxxer… Sorta don’t give 2 shits about his opinion on anything after that. In fact, if I agree with anything he says now, I’ll go back and make sure I didn’t miss something.

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TedStriker  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:41:34pm

re: #156 Blind Frog Belly White

He’s got a bit of anti-vax to answer for.

True dat.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:41:57pm

re: #158 Jack Burton

Anti-vaxxer… Sorta don’t give 2 shits about his opinion on anything after that. In fact, if I agree with anything he says now, I’ll go back and make sure I didn’t miss something.

If you get your shots early enough, you might be able to fight it off. /s

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gocart mozart  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:42:25pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:43:42pm

re: #158 Jack Burton

Anti-vaxxer… Sorta don’t give 2 shits about his opinion on anything after that. In fact, if I agree with anything he says now, I’ll go back and make sure I didn’t miss something.

He got misled by a beautiful woman. It happens. He’s doing good work now.

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MsJ  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:43:59pm

So… What did Farentold step into that created an immediate resignation? Did Mueller stop by?

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:44:07pm

re: #87 Ace-o-aces

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Michelle’s Twit page blurb says: I voted my conscience and it felt damn good. Pissed off Independent who leans to the Right. Former Democrat. I didn’t leave them, they left me.

In other words I am not responsible for anything. You’re just upset with me because you can’t control me. I am happy to be me, me, me, me…

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:44:43pm

re: #161 gocart mozart

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gocart mozart  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:45:24pm
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JordanRules  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:46:14pm
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Jack Burton  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:47:11pm

re: #162 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

He got misled by a beautiful woman. It happens. He’s doing good work now.

Has he publicly apologized/admitted he was wrong/anything for the anti-vax BS?

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Skip Intro  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:48:08pm

re: #156 Blind Frog Belly White

He’s got a bit of anti-vax to answer for.

As we were discussing yesterday,

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JordanRules  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:49:29pm

re: #151 MsJ

What piece is this? I don’t see a link.

Here it is!

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:49:52pm

re: #92 Ace-o-aces

The thread continues:

Shorter ace-o-aces: “Because, judging from your twitter handle, your a xenophobic idiot who hates change”.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:50:55pm

Can anyone tell me where the “two guys yelling” picture sequence came from originally?

Also, on the “missing lizards” front, I believe klys is still in Japan.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:51:22pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:51:52pm

re: #162 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

He got misled by a beautiful woman. It happens. He’s doing good work now.

Eve and that dang apple. /s

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JordanRules  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:52:14pm
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MsJ  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:53:06pm

re: #167 JordanRules

Facebook needs to die. It needs to be nuked, salted and spread across the universe to prevent it ever starting again.

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stpaulbear  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:53:43pm

re: #54 Dr Lizardo

Seeing this in 70 mm, with a fully-upgraded sound system, was one of the finest cinematic experiences I’ve ever enjoyed.

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I got to see the movie at the Cooper Cinerama theater in 1968 when it was new. We sat towards the front so we were totally immersed in the wrap-around screen. At 14 years old, we didn’t ‘get’ the beginning or the ending, but, man, what a ride for most of the film.

I saw it again in the early 70’s at a budget theater. I told my friends what a great movie it was, so I was really embarrassed by the crappy sound and scratched-up copy we saw on the theater’s small screen. We all hated it that evening.

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Skip Intro  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:56:36pm

re: #176 MsJ

Facebook needs to die. It needs to be nuked, salted and spread across the universe to prevent it ever starting again.

Whose idea was it to send a doctor to hospitals to try to collect the records of patients to be used to merge them into the FB data repository? Did his last name start with a ‘Z’?

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calochortus  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:57:20pm

re: #175 JordanRules

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Also a stupid “tip.” I can’t stop drinking sugary drinks because I don’t drink any. I even take my coffee black. I guess I’ll never achieve Bill’s perfect figure.

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wrenchwench  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:58:01pm

re: #174 Patricia Kayden

Eve and that dang apple. /s

It wasn’t the apple in the tree, it was the pair on the ground. (Works better out loud, then you can say ‘pear’.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 2:58:14pm

re: #176 MsJ

Facebook needs to die. It needs to be nuked, salted and spread across the universe to prevent it ever starting again.

And with customs wanting to get everyone’s social media accounts and passwords, I can imagine my next encounter with CBP at the Canadian border:

CBP: How long were you in Canada? What was the purpose of your trip?
Me: A month, for tourism.
CBP: Do you have any guns?
Me: In a Smart? No.
CBP: Are you carrying any fruits, vegetables, or meats?
Me: No.
CBP: Do you have any social media accounts? Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, that sort of thing? What are your logins and passwords?
Me. No.
CBP: Pull your car over there so we can tear it apart.

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KGxvi  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:01:50pm

re: #172 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Can anyone tell me where the “two guys yelling” picture sequence came from originally?

Also, on the “missing lizards” front, I believe klys is still in Japan.

They’re the guys from West Coast Choppers, they have (or had) a reality show on some cable channel about building custom motorcycles.

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wrenchwench  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:05:52pm

re: #181 Anymouse 🌹

And with customs wanting to get everyone’s social media accounts and passwords, I can imagine my next encounter with CBP at the Canadian border:

CBP: How long were you in Canada? What was the purpose of your trip?
Me: A month, for tourism.
CBP: Do you have any guns?
Me: In a Smart? No.
CPB: Are you carrying any fruits, vegetables, or meats?
Me: No.
CBP: Do you have any social media accounts? Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, that sort of thing? What are your logins and passwords?
Me. No.
CBP: Pull your car over there so we can tear it apart.

First time I went to Canada, it went like this:

CPB: Where you from?
Me: [can’t he read the license plate?!?] California.
CPB: What part?
Me: Southern.
CPB: What part?
Me: Orange County.
CPB: What part?
Me: Fullerton.
CPB: What part?
Me: Downtown.
CPB: What part?
Me: [redacted exact address]
CPB: I used to live a block from there.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:06:11pm

While it was recently the fiftieth anniversary of my father’s death in Vietnam, Sons and Daughters in Touch (Gold Star sons and daughters of the Vietnam War) has something that might be harder to take: A man who was shot down over Laos and listed as missing-in-action for fifty years just had his remains returned to his family.

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danarchy  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:07:34pm

re: #182 KGxvi

They’re the guys from West Coast Choppers, they have (or had) a reality show on some cable channel about building custom motorcycles.

West Coast Choppers was Jesse James. The yelling guys are the father and son from Orange County Choppers.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:08:38pm

My little friend from COmmunity College called me with an emergency. She couldn’t start her car. This is the same kid who didn’t understand that you straighten the wheel after you turn so you stay off of the lawn. So she switches from face time to show me the sitch. I tell her to turn the steering wheel a little and the will let you turn the key.
Ok then she shows me the pedals and asked me which one was the brake. If you’re in South Philly and you see a dark colored Toyota take cover. She called again. She asked if AAA would know she doesn’t have a learners permit. I said all they care about is if you have a AAA card. “But I don’t have one of those either”

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JordanRules  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:08:54pm
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JordanRules  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:10:11pm

re: #185 danarchy

West Coast Choppers was Jesse James. The yelling guys are the father and son from Orange County Choppers.

Oh wow. I forgot all about James.

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William Lewis  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:10:12pm

re: #35 Belafon

Kelly’s Heroes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:11:43pm

re: #183 wrenchwench

LOL. The first time my wife and I went to Saskatchewan in our Smart we got a couple unusual questions from the bored border guard in the middle of nowhere north of Plentywood, Montana:

Guard: How long are you going to be in Canada?
Me: We’re traveling to Regina to catch a plane to Germany. We’ll be in Germany and Poland for three weeks, then we will travel from Regina to Sarnia, Ontario.
Guard: Are you carrying any controlled substances?
Me (handing over paper from the Veterans Administration): Yes, Phenobarbital for my epilepsy.
Guard: What’s this called on the street?
Me: I don’t know. I get it from the VA.
Guard: Do they really have only 87 cars in Nebraska (referring to my license plate)?
Me: (laughing) I think there are a few more.

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BeachDem  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:12:36pm

re: #175 JordanRules

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Saves you money when you eat out as well.

And when you go to Sylvia’s, you won’t have to scream for your motherfucking iced tea.
//

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:12:59pm

re: #171 Ace-o-aces

Having read the article, I think a lot of the negative reaction to it is people not wanting their treasured memories sullied.

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JordanRules  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:15:10pm

re: #192 Blind Frog Belly White

Having read the article, I think a lot of the negative reaction to it is people not wanting their treasured memories sullied.

And she addresses that. Also, if we as fans are worried about that, imagine how she feels. And she addresses it. Lots of the complainers sound like they didn’t even read it.

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ObserverArt  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:15:30pm

re: #183 wrenchwench

First time I went to Canada, it went like this:

CPB: Where you from?
Me: [can’t he read the license plate?!?] California.
CPB: What part?
Me: Southern.
CPB: What part?
Me: Orange County.
CPB: What part?
Me: Fullerton.
CPB: What part?
Me: Downtown.
CPB: What part?
Me: [redacted exact address]
CPB: I used to live a block from there.

another ending continuing off yours for fun:
Me: Oh really?
CPB: Did you know Michael Martìnez?
Me: No?
CBP: Pull the car over. Everyone from downtown Fullerton knew Michael Martìnez.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:15:58pm

re: #171 Ace-o-aces

This was a civil discussion by Twitter standards.

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wrenchwench  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:20:55pm

re: #194 ObserverArt

another ending continuing off yours for fun:
Me: Oh really?
CPB: Did you know Michael Martìnez?
Me: No?
CBP: Pull the car over. Everyone from downtown Fullerton knew Michael Martìnez.

Oops, CBP, not CPB.

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JordanRules  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:21:27pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:22:22pm

A fascinating article on how the process was invented to engrave 58000+ names on the granite of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in the time required and without damaging the granite.

It also explains what criteria were used to determine which names should be included.

militarytimes.com

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MsJ  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:22:30pm

re: #170 JordanRules

Here it is!

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That was a very good article. I don’t get the criticism. Those were my movies growing up. I, too, cringed at the Caroline but in Sixteen Candles. But as someone said above, revaluation is always good. Especially art which often represents the times.

Thanks for the link!

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:23:17pm

re: #197 JordanRules

I’d be demanding those water test results. I know I’m required by law to keep the ones in my town.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:23:34pm

re: #193 JordanRules

And she addresses that. Also, if we as fans are worried about that, imagine how she feels. And she addresses it. Lots of the complainers sound like they didn’t even read it.

And I like that she can’t/won’t make a either a definitive ‘This is completely okay’ or ‘This is absolutely bad’ statement, but leaves us with the ambivalence she herself feels.

I still think a lot of reaction by men who aren’t overtly horribly sexist to the #MeToo movement is centered on uncomfortable memories of their own actions when they were younger. I know it’s gotten me to wondering how women I dated in high school and college remember me.

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MsJ  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:23:51pm

re: #172 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Can anyone tell me where the “two guys yelling” picture sequence came from originally?

Also, on the “missing lizards” front, I believe klys is still in Japan.

It’s a rewrite of Bill Gates and Steve Jobs laughing. Only with anger.

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:24:17pm

re: #182 KGxvi

They’re the guys from West Coast Choppers, they have (or had) a reality show on some cable channel about building custom motorcycles.

American Choppers. They were based out of upstate New York (Orange County, ironically).

West Coast Choppers was headed up by a guy named Jesse James, who was briefly married to Sandra Bullock but threw her over for a tattoo artist named Kat something.

Font of useless information, I am.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:24:59pm

re: #195 Ace-o-aces

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This was a civil discussion by Twitter standards.

Probably because you misspelled ‘crude’. Unless you were saying her argument was crud…

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MsJ  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:25:52pm

re: #178 Skip Intro

Whose idea was it to send a doctor to hospitals to try to collect the records of patients to be used to merge them into the FB data repository? Did his last name start with a ‘Z’?

After reading everything, those parents (terrifying, really), that bit about patients makes me the angriest.

Zuckerberg is an evil motherfucker.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:28:26pm
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MsJ  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:28:51pm

re: #181 Anymouse 🌹

And with customs wanting to get everyone’s social media accounts and passwords, I can imagine my next encounter with CBP at the Canadian border:

CBP: How long were you in Canada? What was the purpose of your trip?
Me: A month, for tourism.
CBP: Do you have any guns?
Me: In a Smart? No.
CBP: Are you carrying any fruits, vegetables, or meats?
Me: No.
CBP: Do you have any social media accounts? Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, that sort of thing? What are your logins and passwords?
Me. No.
CBP: Pull your car over there so we can tear it apart.

They can’t do that to citizens. I was worried, too, initially.

I shut down my phone when I cross so I have to put in a code to open it, not use the facial recognition. I don’t think I need to, really, and the folks at this crossing are OK for the most part.

But the fact that I even consider having to do stuff like that is pretty sad.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:29:25pm

re: #204 Blind Frog Belly White

Probably because you misspelled ‘crude’. Unless you were saying her argument was crud…

Misspelled crude. But even if I didn’t, crud seems a rather mild insult.

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MsJ  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:31:13pm

re: #185 danarchy

West Coast Choppers was Jesse James. The yelling guys are the father and son from Orange County Choppers.

They are two guys, father and son, who angrily argue with each other all the time. I don’t know what show as I don’t watch it, but I read an article once that the show was in danger of ending or did end because of one of their arguments.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:31:32pm

re: #205 MsJ

After reading everything, those parents (terrifying, really), that bit about patients makes me the angriest.

Zuckerberg is an evil motherfucker.

He’s not the only one. He’s not even the most blatant.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:31:54pm

re: #206 Ace-o-aces

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Maybe it can be a great ’80s movie AND have characters, plot points, and scenes that rightly make us uncomfortable today.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:32:33pm

re: #208 Ace-o-aces

Misspelled crude. But even if I didn’t, crud seems a rather mild insult.

Hey, I’ve gotten shit for saying “crap”.

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MsJ  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:33:14pm

re: #193 JordanRules

And she addresses that. Also, if we as fans are worried about that, imagine how she feels. And she addresses it. Lots of the complainers sound like they didn’t even read it.

They stopped at #MeToo.

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wrenchwench  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:33:45pm

re: #212 Blind Frog Belly White

Hey, I’ve gotten shit for saying “crap”.

Is that better or worse than getting crap for saying shit?

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:34:18pm

re: #207 MsJ

They can’t do that to citizens. I was worried, too, initially.

I shut down my phone when I cross so I have to put in a code to open it, not use the facial recognition. I don’t think I need to, really, and the folks at this crossing are OK for the most part.

But the fact that I even consider having to do stuff like that is pretty sad.

If they can get away with requiring foreigners coming in to reveal social media logins (IV Amendment be damned), it’s not much of a step to think they can do it to citizens as well.

I don’t have a cell phone, so there’s that.

CBP: No cell phone? That’s mighty suspicious… .

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:34:30pm

re: #187 JordanRules

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Dave In Austin  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:35:52pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:35:58pm

re: #214 wrenchwench

Is that better or worse than getting crap for saying shit?

“I was working in Las Vegas, and I got fired for saying “shit” in a town where the big game is called Craps. There was probably some Texan out in the casino at that very moment saying, “Aw, shit! I crapped out!”

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:37:01pm

re: #209 MsJ

They are two guys, father and son, who angrily argue with each other all the time. I don’t know what show as I don’t watch it, but I read an article once that the show was in danger of ending or did end because of one of their arguments.

It did. Following the argument in the meme, the old man fired his son and they never reconciled.

I saw Sr. at the Auto Show a couple of years ago. He’s a lot smaller and less intimidating than he was on TV.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:37:16pm

re: #217 Dave In Austin

“Young Woman Yells At Cloud”

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:38:28pm

Meanwhile, conservatives still rodent copulating veterans:

TriWest CEO Warns of Looming Financial Catastrophe if VA Choice Runs Out of Money (goes to Stars and Stripes, more at the link):

WASHINGTON — TriWest Healthcare Alliance, which contracts with the Department of Veterans Affairs to arrange private-sector care for veterans through the VA Choice program, warned Tuesday in an apocalyptic letter to lawmakers that another funding shortfall could lead to restricted care for veterans, as well as layoffs and financial ruin for the alliance.

In a letter sent to leaders on the House and Senate VA committees and congressional appropriators, TriWest President and CEO David McIntyre Jr. criticized Congress for failing to address the shortfall in the massive spending bill passed March 23. The funding uncertainty threatens TriWest’s network of private-sector medical providers, he wrote.

“I cannot predict how much longer this company’s owners and employees are going to be willing or able to stay at this work,” McIntyre wrote.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:39:18pm

re: #207 MsJ

They can’t do that to citizens. I was worried, too, initially.

I shut down my phone when I cross so I have to put in a code to open it, not use the facial recognition. I don’t think I need to, really, and the folks at this crossing are OK for the most part.

But the fact that I even consider having to do stuff like that is pretty sad.

Pretty sure they can. And do from time to time. And btw in legal terms a pin can not be demanded of you but your finger print or facial recognition can and is when they so choose. Any violations they commit (ICE) are denied, stonewalled and they fight to SCOTUS when ruled against. So my phone has the latest Samsung-android encryption. They can mirror the contents but need a ton of computing power to crack it.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:41:18pm

re: #219 makeitstop

It did. Following the argument in the meme, the old man fired his son and they never reconciled.

I saw Sr. at the Auto Show a couple of years ago. He’s a lot smaller and less intimidating than he was on TV.

Camera adds ten pounds, 3 camera style shoot show. Well then the GoPros only add a pound each. Say an extra 40 lb //

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:43:14pm

re: #223 Unshaken Defiance

Camera adds ten pounds, 3 camera style shoot show. Well then the GoPros only add a pound each. Say an extra 40 lb //

I was thinking exactly that, but I couldn’t put it into a cogent post.

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MsJ  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:43:43pm

re: #215 Anymouse 🌹

If they can get away with requiring foreigners coming in to reveal social media logins (IV Amendment be damned), it’s not much of a step to think they can do it to citizens as well.

I don’t have a cell phone, so there’s that.

CBP: No cell phone? That’s mighty suspicious… .

You’re driving a Smart car. Not so suspicious. 😂🤣😂

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darthstar  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:45:34pm

re: #117 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Nobody could have predicted knock-off shoes would be a protected species.

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MsJ  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:46:07pm

re: #219 makeitstop

It did. Following the argument in the meme, the old man fired his son and they never reconciled.

I saw Sr. at the Auto Show a couple of years ago. He’s a lot smaller and less intimidating than he was on TV.

But just as big of an asshole, right?

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:46:16pm

And religious people still keep trying to equate “veteran” with “Christian”:

Advocacy Group Pushes Navy to Remove Bible from Okinawa POW/MIA Display (Stars and Stripes with a picture of the table in question):

CAMP FOSTER, Okinawa — A nonprofit group dedicated to safeguarding servicemembers’ constitutional right to religious freedom has lodged a formal complaint with the Navy after a Bible was spotted in a POW/MIA “Missing Man” table display at U.S. Naval Hospital Okinawa.

The complaint was filed Thursday by the New York-based Law Office of Donald Rehkopf Jr. on behalf of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation and 26 families on Okinawa.

The complaint — addressed to Navy Medicine West commander Rear Adm. Paul Pearigen — demands the immediate removal of the Bible from the hospital galley display, the immediate removal of accompanying written materials that describe the United States as being “founded as one nation under God,” a Japanese translation of these materials and an independent investigation into who put up the display, as well as “appropriate disciplinary measures” for those responsible.

The complainants include sailors, Marines and Department of Defense civilian employees stationed on the island, MRFF founder and president Mikey Weinstein said Friday.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:46:18pm

So a little over a week ago I put up a poll. Pretty good response and it did wind up in a tie.

Gavin V Zoltan TIED
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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:46:55pm

re: #227 MsJ

But just as big of an asshole, right?

Pretty much. Just grumpy in general, didn’t want to talk to anyone.

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William Lewis  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:47:54pm

re: #193 JordanRules

And she addresses that. Also, if we as fans are worried about that, imagine how she feels. And she addresses it. Lots of the complainers sound like they didn’t even read it.

Damn, that is an exquisite article. Ms. Ringwald was my favorite actress as a teen and is still near the top today. A beautiful brilliant mind as that writing shows. Nice looking too :)

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:50:50pm

The new conservative cruelty, same as the old conservative cruelty:

huffingtonpost.com

US quietly deports largest group of Cambodian refugees ever.

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MsJ  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:51:08pm

re: #229 Unshaken Defiance

So a little over a week ago I put up a poll. Pretty good response and it did wind up in a tie.

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I know not what that is.

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electrotek  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:51:29pm

re: #232 Anymouse 🌹

The new conservative cruelty, same as the old conservative cruelty:

huffingtonpost.com

US quietly deports largest group of Cambodian refugees ever.

So much for ‘compassionate conservatism’.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:52:58pm

re: #229 Unshaken Defiance

who the fuck picked Zoltan

zoltanistvan.com

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:53:35pm

So, Jimmy Kimmel got into a flame war with Hannity on Twitter and pretty much shredded him.

Now wingnuts want to boycott Kimmel. They’re so cute when they’re defending their own.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:54:01pm

re: #234 electrotek

So much for ‘compassionate conservatism’.

A lie, much like “fiscal conservatism” or “family values conservatism.” They are advertising slogans, not any policy a conservative ever held.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:56:01pm

re: #236 makeitstop

So, Jimmy Kimmel got into a flame war with Hannity on Twitter and pretty much shredded him.

Now wingnuts want to boycott Kimmel. They’re so cute when they’re defending their own.

Some derp on that thread, and a whole lot of hilarity from liberals.

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William Lewis  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:57:53pm

Totally OT, but I was listening to the wind blow this morning. Loud and hard though not really all that bad, but with the snow it seemed almost blizzard like…

It reminded me of one of the biggest tornados of my youth and reminded me that there is always a place for being like my grandfather. After that tornado almost blew over several trees on the farm he spent the morning back in the early 80’s pulling them up right with the tractor and tying them off. Home again for lunch and then he sat down in his chair to nap while the radio played. He didn’t wake up again but those trees are still there.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:58:30pm

More from the Stripe article about the POW/MIA table in Okinawa:

“Why is that Bible there?” [Mikey] Weinstein said. “Can you imagine if somebody put a Quran there, or the book of Satan, or the Book of Mormon? It violates the [First Amendment’s Establishment Clause] as well as DOD and Navy regulations.”

and

The fight to remove religious articles from POW/MIA “Missing Man” tables is not new for MRFF. The group has been successful in several other cases, the latest in November when it forced the Denver VA Medical Center to remove religious items from a display.

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William Lewis  Apr 6, 2018 • 3:58:58pm

I also learned this morning that I didn’t get the job at the credit union, so the search for enough to survive on continues.

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petesh  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:00:53pm

re: #229 Unshaken Defiance

That poll was posted when I was away. I’d probably have voted for Delaine Eastin, which would have raised her from last to a four-way tie for last! Newsom’s going to win, and if he has a Republican opponent I’ll vote for him. There is a slight chance it might be Dem-vs-Dem which would be entertaining, I suppose.

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electrotek  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:02:08pm

re: #241 William Lewis

I also learned this morning that I didn’t get the job at the credit union, so the search for enough to survive on continues.

Ugh, that blows man. Hope you snag one soon!

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Stanley Sea  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:03:17pm

re: #241 William Lewis

:(

Hang tough William!

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:04:03pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:05:42pm

OT:

Fuck Mice.

Evidently some of them got in the house probably during the late winter when it was cold. So I had to do a shit ton of not planned on Spring Cleaning to get at the little bastards hiding places and also cut off their food supply (they were going for my dogs food and birdseed).

So far I’ve tried old school snap traps, non lethal baited traps, glue traps and poison traps (bait station).

I’ve killed 4 of the damn things with the glue traps after having zero luck with the non lethals. I put the bait trap up in the attic. I’d love to drop another in the living room but despite the package saying they are pet friendly, I’d just as soon not risk my dogs.

I also regretfully no longer have a feline overlord to help with the problem. I am definitely making progress though if not more slowly than I’d like.

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William Lewis  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:09:43pm

re: #246 Eclectic Cyborg

OT:

Fuck Mice.

Evidently some of them got in the house probably during the late winter when it was cold. So I had to do a shit ton of not planned on Spring Cleaning to get at the little bastards hiding places and also cut off their food supply (they were going for my dogs food and birdseed).

So far I’ve tried old school snap traps, non lethal baited traps, glue traps and poison traps (bait station).

I’ve killed 4 of the damn things with the glue traps after having zero luck with the non lethals. I put the bait trap up in the attic. I’d love to drop another in the living room but despite the package saying they are pet friendly, I’d just as soon not risk my dogs.

I also regretfully no longer have a feline overlord to help with the problem. I am definitely making progress though if not more slowly than I’d like.

I have at least one this winter. I have not had success trapping it. I am seriously considering a feline overlord as a result.

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wrenchwench  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:10:29pm

re: #246 Eclectic Cyborg

OT:

Fuck Mice.

Evidently some of them got in the house probably during the late winter when it was cold. So I had to do a shit ton of not planned on Spring Cleaning to get at the little bastards hiding places and also cut off their food supply (they were going for my dogs food and birdseed).

So far I’ve tried old school snap traps, non lethal baited traps, glue traps and poison traps (bait station).

I’ve killed 4 of the damn things with the glue traps after having zero luck with the non lethals. I put the bait trap up in the attic. I’d love to drop another in the living room but despite the package saying they are pet friendly, I’d just as soon not risk my dogs.

I also regretfully no longer have a feline overlord to help with the problem. I am definitely making progress though if not more slowly than I’d like.

I told Mr. w that I had a mouse in my back room. He said to go to the gallery next door (with whom I share a wall) and eat a lot of crackers. Thinking about it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:10:56pm

South Carolina House Republicans Introduce Bill to Consider Secession over Gun Rights (goes to The Hill)

A group of Republican state legislators in South Carolina introduced a measure Thursday that would allow the state to secede from the United States if the federal government began to seize legally purchased firearms in the state.

The bill, which was referred to the state House Judiciary Committee on Thursday, would allow South Carolina lawmakers to debate whether to secede from the United States if the federal government were to violate the Second Amendment.

It states that “the general assembly shall convene to consider whether to secede from the United States based upon the federal government’s unconstitutional violation of the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution if the federal government confiscates legally purchased firearms in this state.”

(more)

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Jay C  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:12:57pm

re: #236 makeitstop

So, Jimmy Kimmel got into a flame war with Hannity on Twitter and pretty much shredded him.

Now wingnuts want to boycott Kimmel. They’re so cute when they’re defending their own.

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WAFM: So this winger is going after Jimmy Kimmel over making fun of Melania Trump’s accent (fair enough: but it’s not like the Boris-and-Natasha Slavic slant is too much of an exaggeration) - but on the grounds that it’s “an insult to immigrants”?? From an (apparent) Trump supporter?? Oh puh-leeeze!

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Dave In Austin  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:15:14pm

Fucking Ducky…..

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stpaulbear  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:16:57pm

re: #246 Eclectic Cyborg

OT:

Fuck Mice.

Evidently some of them got in the house probably during the late winter when it was cold. So I had to do a shit ton of not planned on Spring Cleaning to get at the little bastards hiding places and also cut off their food supply (they were going for my dogs food and birdseed).

So far I’ve tried old school snap traps, non lethal baited traps, glue traps and poison traps (bait station).

I’ve killed 4 of the damn things with the glue traps after having zero luck with the non lethals. I put the bait trap up in the attic. I’d love to drop another in the living room but despite the package saying they are pet friendly, I’d just as soon not risk my dogs.

I also regretfully no longer have a feline overlord to help with the problem. I am definitely making progress though if not more slowly than I’d like.

I used to keep some glue traps around in places where the cat couldn’t access, until I accidentally left the basement door open and found that Halley had firmly planted both front feet into the trap. Getting it off wasn’t pretty. I quit using glue traps but I’ve had good results with these. They’re instantly lethal so they may be the most humane trap that I can use. If my Halley ever saw a mouse, she would never go in that room again. She’s not exactly a warrior….

You would need to be sure you’re dogs can’t get at them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:21:14pm

re: #195 Ace-o-aces

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This was a civil discussion by Twitter standards.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:22:39pm

re: #251 Dave In Austin

Fucking Ducky…..

Same with griftoid Randy Neugebauer, who allegedly represented Texas 19 when I lived there. I used to regularly post messages asking any fatcats or lobbyists who had seen Randy to post a photo of him posing with a current newspaper so we would know he was still alive.

Randy did make a couple of appearances in national media, for shouting “baby killer” at President Obama and browbeating a ranger over the GOP-forced closing of the National World 2 memorial in Washington.

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Maddies Mom  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:25:30pm

re: #39 petesh

Being a cynic, I double-checked that this was real. It is. And it’s beautiful! Go on, give them ten bucks if you’ve got it to space.

It’s beautiful, and heartbreaking. I donated.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:25:37pm

re: #197 JordanRules

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Flint’s water is testing the same as or better than similar cities across the state.

*blink*
Flint’s water is same or better???

good fucking grief

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Jay C  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:28:42pm

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

*blink*
Flint’s water is same or better???

good fucking grief

I’m sure it is, depending on the source tested.
I imagine Poland Spring keeps their standards quite high….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:32:21pm

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The article isn’t about comparing teens from the ’80s with today’s teens. That makes it sound like it’s about something as vapid as style.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:36:48pm
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MsJ  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:37:07pm

I really want to know where what Farentold got caught with. Something made this happen.

Or did he simply fuck over his constitutes by waiting until this date so a special couldn’t be called?

Fucking Republicans. Dirty every last one.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:38:08pm

South Carolina if they really want to secede and the GOP isn’t just trying to fear monger the voters to the polls for them might want to be careful with their “fiscal responsibility.”

WalletHub ranks states based on dependency on the Federal government (including DC, from 1 to 51, 1 is most dependent). Dependency usually comes from low state taxes with high Federal expenditures in the state.

They also rank GDP per capita the same way.

Their figures collate information from population records, revenues received, Federal money received, state tax rates &c.

As such, South Carolina ranks 6th most dependent (by comparison NE is 40th and CA is 39th).

As for state tax rates, those are ranked 1 as lowest and 51 as highest (combining income, property, sales, excise, &c).

In that metric, South Carolina ranks 10th lowest, CA is 8th lowest, NE is 49th lowest - only CT and IL have higher taxes than we do).

Without taxation or Federal money (if South Carolina was stupid enough to secede), the state would collapse into a black hole overnight.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:40:52pm

re: #223 Unshaken Defiance

Camera adds ten pounds, 3 camera style shoot show. Well then the GoPros only add a pound each. Say an extra 40 lb //

OTOH, they built a bike for Sarah Palin. During the episode where they presented it to her, her post-VP-run impressive boobs were non-existent.

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Skip Intro  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:42:09pm

re: #260 MsJ

He doesn’t want to pay back the $86,000 he owes.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:44:09pm

re: #236 makeitstop

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:44:15pm

re: #261 Anymouse 🌹

wallethub.com

(with interactive scatter charts showing each state and DC’s fiscal positions and incomes).

If you look at the Federal Dependency chart, you’ll see NE is an outlier amongst red states, in that it is amongst the least dependent (with the blue states).

It’s for things like this that makes me think my state with some work is flippable from red to blue.

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MsJ  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:45:22pm

re: #264 Belafon

That one was my favorite.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:46:24pm

re: #255 Maddies Mom

It’s beautiful, and heartbreaking. I donated.

So glad you did.

I’m re-posting. If you can’t donate, at least look at it. It is beautiful.

These are the journalists of the future.

Hope some of them go to UF.

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fern01  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:47:44pm

re: #26 KerFuFFler

I think Trump does not fundamentally believe that there is even such a thing as a win/win solution to a problem. The only kind of winning that gives him a special tingle is when he dominates a “loser”. So, that is the only kind of win he seeks.

This is really bad for trade and diplomacy.

This is really bad for everything and everyone. Trump’s “being fair to the US” means attacking every country that might have something trump wants. It’s interesting that most of the countries he attacks have majority non-white populations.

He want’s the world to look like it did in my 1950s school atlas - majority colored pink representing the great British Empire.

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fern01  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:54:38pm

re: #47 Blind Frog Belly White

“No, no, no! You’ve got it all wrong! He doesn’t want to kill you. He just wishes you were dead.”

I will never understand why some men are (or appear to be) so anti abortion. It surely must be harking back to earlier times when women must pay for their sexual sins by living in poverty with an unwanted child - while the other half of the procreation team goes on his way with a smile and a whistle.

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:54:58pm

Thread!

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petesh  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:54:59pm

re: #268 fern01

… He want’s the world to look like it did in my 1950s school atlas - majority colored pink representing the great British Empire.

And by Golly we thought it would last. Well, actually we didn’t, it was already collapsing. but the relevant point is: Britain is enormously better off now.

Of course Cambridge Analytica is on board with screwing that up too …

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Kilroy was here  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:55:31pm

re: #268 fern01

This is really bad for everything and everyone. Trump’s “being fair to the US” means attacking every country that might have something trump wants. It’s interesting that most of the countries he attacks have majority non-white populations.

He want’s the world to look like it did in my 1950s school atlas - majority colored pink representing the great British Empire.

Remember the good old days when a Republican though Africa was a country?
Good times…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:56:00pm

he is so pathetic

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Dave In Austin  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:56:13pm

re: #263 Skip Intro

He doesn’t want to pay back the $86,000 he owes.

Because he doesn’t have it.

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fern01  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:57:31pm

re: #56 Mike Lamb

Why don’t they talk about wealth concentration?

Because they are explaining why the rich need to pay less tax - otherwise things are not fair - the “trump fairness doctrine” - if you aren’t paying my share, it’s not fair.

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Kilroy was here  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:58:13pm

re: #274 Dave In Austin

Because he doesn’t have it.

Wonder what he spent it on…

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fern01  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:59:12pm

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹

Wanting to get in on the action of the New York Times trying to interview every Trump voter in the galaxy, Huffington Post weighs in with this on the front page of their Website:

I’m A Liberal Feminist And Next Month I’m Marrying a Trump Voter

Because, you know, marrying a person who supports a president advocating for war crimes, hatred for minorities (and convicted for racism in rental practices), and wholesale theft of government money to pad his business, along with taking her rights is just the angle we need from a liberal. /s not necessary

We can be cheered by the fact that the marriage will be shorter than any of the trump marriages. Serious political disagreements do not make the heavenly marriage.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 4:59:56pm

re: #274 Dave In Austin

Because he doesn’t have it.

That’s his story anyway, and he’s sticking to it.

Blake Farenthold

Rank: 72nd in the House

with an estimated net worth of $5,789,824 in 2015.
opensecrets.org

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:02:50pm

re: #190 Anymouse 🌹

And then there was my wife’s first encounter with CBP. She was in a wheelchair.

Why are people like you coming up here to leech off of hard working Canadian taxpayers? I should kick you out right now! People like you have no right…

This went on for a number of minutes until the airline representative helping my wife got the manager. The manager said a few words to the agent and my wife was let through, no problem.

I’m hoping that evil bitch, the agent that is, not my wife, lost her job over that.

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freetoken  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:03:24pm

re: #229 Unshaken Defiance

I forgot for whom I voted.

This is a problem for some of these fields - full of people with either low name recognition or at least mind-space.

Newsom is the only person about whom I have heard this or that over the years.

This raises the bigger question of outreach. In a primary the outreach is usually to selected in-groups. But in the general election quite a bit of money will need to be spent to gain a candidate wide-spread recognition.

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freetoken  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:04:29pm

Even though I’ve heard the name “Gavin Newsom” before, I can’t really tell you anything about him.

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Skip Intro  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:04:41pm

re: #276 Kilroy was here

Every time I see that picture I have to wonder what kind of an idiot chooses to be photographed that way. Hookers and duckie pjs? WTF is that all about?

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fern01  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:06:47pm

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹

Chasing that chicken round the yard again … conservatives with their eyes on the important stuff, as always, not pesky things like interference with our republic’s institutions and elections:

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The reason they want a balanced budget - now they have CAUSED a massive deficit via the tax cuts, they want a valid reason to reduce SS and medicare while continuing to spend billions on defense.

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Skip Intro  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:07:07pm

re: #281 freetoken

Even though I’ve heard the name “Gavin Newsom” before, I can’t really tell you anything about him.

Mayor of San Francisco, ex-husband of Fox’s Kimberly Guilfoyle . Was way ahead of the curve on gay marriage.

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Single-handed sailor  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:08:52pm

re: #284 Skip Intro

Mayor of San Francisco, ex-husband of Fox’s Kimberly Guilfoyle . Was way ahead of the curve on gay marriage.

…and current Lt. Governor.

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Brian J.  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:09:20pm

re: #114 BeachDem

South Carolina GOP introduce bill to secede from US over gun rights

And if that doesn’t work, we’ll just go with axe throwing—that’s right—axe throwing.

Will ax throwing be the next amusement near Ocean Boulevard?

myhorrynews.com

Sigh.

Fine by me. This time, we don’t let them back in. As in Harry Turtledove’s “Must and Shall,” we rule the place as occupied territory and disenfranchise the territory’s wypipo. Forever.

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freetoken  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:10:45pm

re: #284 Skip Intro

Mayor of San Francisco, ex-husband of Fox’s Kimberly Guilfoyle . Was way ahead of the curve on gay marriage.

The first fact I had known at one time, I’m pretty sure, but couldn’t recall it on demand.

The second I did not know.

The third sounds familiar, but I never could have pulled out his name if you had asked me which Californians were leaders in bring equality to marriage.

re: #285 Single-handed sailor

…and current Lt. Governor.

I think I knew that too, but damn, couldn’t have pulled it off the top of my head.

Lt. Governor is not a particularly high visibility office, if one doesn’t follow Sacramento closely.

I’m 400 miles from Sacramento and don’t really pay attention to what happens up there.

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freetoken  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:13:23pm

My error.

I’m 500 miles from Sacramento.

It’s a long way across this state.

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Skip Intro  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:14:19pm

re: #285 Single-handed sailor

Well, that shows how well a Lt. Governor is known. I forgot all about that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:15:11pm

re: #282 Skip Intro

Every time I see that picture I have to wonder what kind of an idiot chooses to be photographed that way. Hookers and duckie pjs? WTF is that Ll about?

Not “hookers.” It was a pyjama party done as a fundraiser (really), and the woman pictured is an employee of the bar.

That said, I could care less about his kinks (other than the lie of the “party of family values” of course).

Far more serious are all the sexual harassment allegations against (former) Rep. Farenthold which include the taxpayers’ payments to hush up.

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gocart mozart  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:15:26pm

re: #175 JordanRules

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Skip Intro  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:16:08pm

re: #286 Brian J.

I would be happy to pay for a wall around SC because whatever got loose there has to be contained.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:16:36pm

re: #288 freetoken

My error.

I’m 500 miles from Sacramento.

It’s a long way across this state.

I’m from Nebraska and I’ve been to Sacramento. Some Californians you are. /s

The State Railroad Museum was the purpose of our trip: it is fascinating.

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fern01  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:22:20pm

re: #126 Anymouse 🌹

I walk a fine line in my village since the overwhelming majority voted for Trump. If I was to push everyone in town out who voted for Trump, I would be left with one other person besides my wife.

Instead it’s more along the lines of pointing out problems when I see or hear of them with his administration. I doubt I’ll even sway most of the town, but this is the same town that pulled the lever for him and put me in local office twice. I can’t figure it out.

It’s been my experience with local office - anyone willing to do the job gets voted in. It also then becomes a long slow change to people, but when they realize someone with differing political views actually cares about the local people & does a good job, just sometimes they start looking at other political points of view.

You may yet get more folks changing to your side.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:23:11pm

This Land Is My Land (Boing Boing)

A new Florida law redefines the reach of beachfront property owners’ claims to “the land above the mean high-tide level.” This seemingly innocuous change means that private property owners — and their patrolling rent-a-cops — will have vastly expanded powers to kick members of the public off of public beaches.

The law also bans cities from creating their own rules to ensure public access to public lands.

In this oligarchic moment, every public resource is under assault: Trump’s Park Service wants to exclude 71% of working class Americans from national parks; evil billionaires conspire to fence off public beaches, while evil millionaires resort to committing smaller-scale frauds to steal the public’s beaches.

Governor Rick Scott, who signed the law, insists that everything will be fine, because rich people are unlikely to abuse their new powers.

(sure they won’t, more at the link)

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fern01  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:24:06pm

re: #135 Blind Frog Belly White

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And Maggie believe that trump has a right to do this - but others do not - she crawls along the floor to get his phone calls

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:24:43pm

re: #293 Anymouse 🌹

I’m from Nebraska and I’ve been to Sacramento. Some Californians you are. /s

The State Railroad Museum was the purpose of our trip: it is fascinating.

The presence of SP 4294, the last of the Cab Forward locomotives makes it truly amazing.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:25:08pm

re: #294 fern01

It’s been my experience with local office - anyone willing to do the job gets voted in. It also then becomes a long slow change to people, but when they realize someone with differing political views actually cares about the local people & does a good job, just sometimes they start looking at other political points of view.

You may yet get more folks changing to your side.

I’m consolidating my village’s power in my position (bwahahahaha): vice-mayor, public water system operator, public information officer, flag committee chair (I’m not sure how I can leverage that yet), … .

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:29:19pm

re: #285 Single-handed sailor

…and current Lt. Governor.

Cousin of harpist Joanna Newsom.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:30:01pm

re: #296 fern01

And Maggie believe that trump has a right to do this - but others do not - she crawls along the floor to get his phone calls

And yet she and other NYT reporters consistently publish the most revealing reports on the chaos and backstabbing within the WH.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:35:03pm

re: #300 Blind Frog Belly White

And yet she and other NYT reporters consistently publish the most revealing reports on the chaos and backstabbing within the WH.

The New York Times publishes articles about why you should hug the Nazi next door and interviews with every Trump voter in the known universe, endless conservative screeds on the op-ed page, and lest we forget, the breathless reporting on Hillary Clinton’s E-mails.

But the Times has always been fascist-curious, as their reporting on the rise of Hitler also showed.

I think you’re confusing them with the Washington Post.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:35:44pm

re: #298 Anymouse 🌹

I am going to be taking my election classes tomorrow. If all goes well (and it should) I will be trained for the Minority Inspector position.

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:36:24pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:37:25pm

re: #302 PhillyPretzel

I am going to be taking my election classes tomorrow. If all goes well (and it should) I will be trained for the Minority Inspector position.

KEWL

Political activism isn’t just about running for office. All sorts of unsung positions are vital to ensure fair and free elections.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:37:44pm

re: #303 makeitstop

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I saw that live. It was really good.

He referenced the lock her up chant.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:39:50pm

LOL

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:41:11pm
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William Lewis  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:43:27pm

re: #306 Anymouse 🌹

Heh. As an aside, I think every branch removes the sense of shame in basic training. Even the Air Farce Force ;)

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:43:44pm

re: #307 Anymouse 🌹

He sounds like he has had too much of the (spiked) Kool-aid.

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Skip Intro  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:44:30pm

re: #307 Anymouse 🌹

For fucks sake. That can’t be real.

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stpaulbear  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:46:00pm

re: #307 Anymouse 🌹

o_O

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:46:01pm

Today I got to the shop to revisit on old subject of some small popularity. I wanted to see what the Canon 5D IV could do with it given some features that should help. Exposure 1/8000th of a second. About four feet back, looking up, I could really feel the heat. The flame is about eight feet tall. 100,000 btu gas furnace

Current Mood

Given todays news absorbed whilst driving home today, trade war, fascist prick, thanks Trump voters

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:46:14pm

re: #310 Skip Intro

For fucks sake. That can’t be real.

It’s not. The Babylon Bee is Christian satire.

(Yes, some of us have a sense of humor.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:47:11pm

re: #310 Skip Intro

For fucks sake. That can’t be real.

No. Babylon Bee is a satire site which usually goes after religious hypocrites but occasionally others:

All-Seeing Eye of Sauron Unveiled at Facebook Headquarters (goes to the Babylon Bee)

MENLO PARK, CA—In the midst of a scandal involving the unauthorized transfer of its users’ data for political purposes, Facebook proudly unveiled a brand new, giant Lidless Eye of Sauron atop the company’s Menlo Park headquarters.

The Eye of Sauron will be used to examine Facebook users’ every action, online and off.

The fiery Great Eye reportedly cost over seven trillion dollars and came with all the latest surveillance technology, including the ability to detect evil thoughts and motives as well as any negative emotions about Facebook or Mark Zuckerberg.

“Reading everyone’s profiles and harvesting all their private data is great, but the Lidless Eye will help us be much more efficient in our shady use of people’s personal lives,” Zuckerberg said at the press conference as he showed off the features of his new surveillance tool. “An ever-watchful searing gaze from the Lord of Barad-dûr is great for privacy, as you no longer have to worry about it. Because, you know, you don’t have it anymore.”

According to sources from within Facebook, the far-reaching new surveillance strategy will also include the construction of a great volcano, where any incriminating info about Facebook or its CEO can be destroyed at will.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:49:34pm

re: #307 Anymouse 🌹

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OK, this is a parody, but I half believed that Jim Bakker would say this.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:50:04pm

re: #315 Big Beautiful Door

OK, this is a parody, but I half believed that Jim Bakker would say this.

And that’s Poe’s Law at work. The religious right is so fucking ridiculous that it’s impossible to tell if it’s satire or reality.

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Sea Mexican!  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:50:57pm

re: #307 Anymouse 🌹

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That’s how the evangelicals call it?

Edit: Oops, didn’t get it was a satire site.

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Skip Intro  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:53:28pm

re: #313 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Good. Every now and again I need to recalibrate my bullshit detector.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:54:38pm

re: #318 Skip Intro

Good. Every now and again I need to recalibrate my bullshit detector.

See my #316.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:55:22pm

O_o

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:57:35pm

Pruitt’s corruption aside, what’s the deal with the emphasis on bulletproof shit?

Bulletproof furniture? Who, exactly, is this dude afraid of? And why?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 5:59:18pm

fun thread (and yes, I have also had this dream…)

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:00:54pm

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

That one guy per four miles (if my guess is on) is really going to
1. Have little to no impact
2. Be described by Trump as the best most effective thing since ever
3. Anger all participants and Mexico
4. Be ended at some future date totally unnoticed by the news.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:01:34pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:03:16pm

re: #324 Dave In Austin

That does not look like the Jersey Whale. That person is too pale.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:04:16pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:09:43pm

I’m out for now … I’ll leave you with a new low from Hannity:

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:11:19pm

re: #327 Anymouse 🌹

Yes. That is low.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:12:13pm
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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:12:39pm

re: #327 Anymouse 🌹

I’m out for now … I’ll leave you with a new low from Hannity:

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Because he got his fees hurt on Twitter. What a pig.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:14:25pm

re: #328 PhillyPretzel

Yes. That is low.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:14:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:18:33pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:21:26pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:21:28pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:22:00pm

re: #334 Anymouse 🌹

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Duke sucks.

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:22:59pm

re: #336 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Evergreen statement.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:23:13pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:23:28pm

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What the what.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:24:24pm

re: #339 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

What the what.

I know…YIKES!!!!!

341
makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:25:22pm

Hannity has completely lost it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:26:11pm
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BeachDem  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:27:57pm

re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Why was she at Grey Gardens? Looking for some of that Bouvier mystique?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:29:04pm
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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:33:42pm

re: #341 makeitstop

Hannity has completely lost it.

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Well, it’s a change up from Hannity spending all the time fixated on Clinton.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:34:23pm

re: #344 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:34:49pm

re: #341 makeitstop

Hannity has completely lost it.

Jimmy Kimmel attacks the latest Prophet of Conservatism.

Conservatives must attack and destroy anything which stands in the way of them gaining or maintaining power. (As pointed out by Trey Gowdy a couple days ago, the only point of the GOP is to gain power.)

Since Hannity is attached (somewhere) to Donald Trump, and Donald Trump is the base of Hannity’s power, he must attack perceived enemies to his power.

348
Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:34:55pm

re: #301 Anymouse 🌹

The New York Times publishes articles about why you should hug the Nazi next door and interviews with every Trump voter in the known universe, endless conservative screeds on the op-ed page, and lest we forget, the breathless reporting on Hillary Clinton’s E-mails.

But the Times has always been fascist-curious, as their reporting on the rise of Hitler also showed.

I think you’re confusing them with the Washington Post.

No, I’m not.

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:35:28pm

re: #345 lawhawk

Well, it’s a change up from Hannity spending all the time fixated on Clinton.

He’s done half his show just going off on Kimmel.

Kimmel must have said something that really triggered him.

350
fern01  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:35:51pm

re: #176 MsJ

Facebook needs to die. It needs to be nuked, salted and spread across the universe to prevent it ever starting again.

That needs to be seen again. I second your comment.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:36:21pm

re: #348 Blind Frog Belly White

No, I’m not.

Tell me when they interview a Clinton voter, or tell conservatives to “hug the liberal next door, they’re just like you.”

352
fern01  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:37:28pm

re: #181 Anymouse 🌹

And with customs wanting to get everyone’s social media accounts and passwords, I can imagine my next encounter with CBP at the Canadian border:

CBP: How long were you in Canada? What was the purpose of your trip?
Me: A month, for tourism.
CBP: Do you have any guns?
Me: In a Smart? No.
CBP: Are you carrying any fruits, vegetables, or meats?
Me: No.
CBP: Do you have any social media accounts? Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, that sort of thing? What are your logins and passwords?
Me. No.
CBP: Pull your car over there so we can tear it apart.

If you’re over 50 they are more likely to disbelieve the guns than the social media accounts

353
Belafon  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:37:37pm

MySpace needs to make an upload that will pull in your facebook data, letting you choose what to delete.

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:39:01pm

re: #347 Anymouse 🌹

Jimmy Kimmel attacks the latest Prophet of Conservatism.

Conservatives must attack and destroy anything which stands in the way of them gaining or maintaining power. (As pointed out by Trey Gowdy a couple days ago, the only point of the GOP is to gain power.)

Since Hannity is attached (somewhere) to Donald Trump, and Donald Trump is the base of Hannity’s power, he must attack perceived enemies to his power.

Hannity took that whole Twitter exchange extremely personally.

Kimmel could possibly have a claim of malicious intent. Did Hannity run this shit by Fox legal, I wonder?

355
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:39:32pm

re: #349 makeitstop

He’s done half his show just going off on Kimmel.

Kimmel must have said something that really triggered him.

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lawhawk  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:41:53pm

re: #347 Anymouse 🌹

Before there was Trump, there was Hannity’s misinformed mass base. That’s the GOP base. It’s the Fox viewer. They’ve weaponized right wing ignorance and misinformation to the point where they’re impervious to facts entirely.

Hannity is proof of this himself.

He spews nonsense about Pizzagate, Marc Rich, and now Kimmel.

He rants and raves about Uranium One to the point where even Shep Smith is like STFU Donny.

Trump benefited from Hannity’s mass misinformation campaign. Trump continues to seek counsel from Hannity.

You can be damned sure that Hannity’s name has come up in Mueller’s investigations as well. There are links and connections there to be explored.

357
Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:42:28pm

re: #351 Anymouse 🌹

Tell me when they interview a Clinton voter, or tell conservatives to “hug the liberal next door, they’re just like you.”

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your distaste notwithstanding, they have provided some of the most scathing and well-sourced reporting on the chaos that is the WH, and the nonsense that passes for Trump’s “thinking”.

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VegasGolfer  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:43:05pm

re: #341 makeitstop

Kimmel and Howard Stern are great friends. If this were the ’80’s, I’d be very worried if I was hannity. Because when Stern decided to make someone his enemy, it was all over.
But now that Stern has mellowed, I dont think he’ll go after hannity. But it would be like old times if he did.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:43:24pm
360
fern01  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:43:35pm

re: #197 JordanRules

Gov Snyder Flint waster has tested below federal lead limits

Given the current president, and the current EPA administration, I wouldn’t put too much faith in current federal lead limits.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:43:38pm

re: #344 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Final Thoughts” - we should be so lucky.
////

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:45:17pm

re: #358 VegasGolfer

Kimmel and Howard Stern are great friends. If this were the ’80’s, I’d be very worried if I was hannity. Because when Stern decided to make someone his enemy, it was all over.
But now that Stern has mellowed, I dont think he’ll go after hannity. But it would be like old times if he did.

I think Stern and Hannity are Long Island Rich Guy pals. But yeah, Stern dragging Hannity would be epic.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:45:24pm

re: #355 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

(I’m only putting this up because I think I made a funny, or something):

Because, yeah, Sean’s the smart one:

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:47:18pm

re: #324 Dave In Austin

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Congratulate.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:47:57pm
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Citizen K  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:50:06pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:53:00pm

Think before you tweet but do not tweet about everything you think. With a nod to Catherine the Great for the original quote.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:53:35pm
369
Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:53:58pm

re: #360 fern01

Given the current president, and the current EPA administration, I wouldn’t put too much faith in current federal lead limits.

Federal lead limits are fine. (The limit has continuously been reduced since the Lead and Copper Rule came out after the Safe Drinking Water Act came out.)

epa.gov

As the EPA notes, no level of lead is safe. However, the lead limits are set to what is technically feasible. (Thus as technology improves, the EPA lowers the limit.)

All public water systems must test for copper and lead. (Our village right now is working under a grant to replace water meters that have brass components.) Anything above the permissible limit and the public water system must warn customers how to avoid lead or copper contamination.

That said, public water systems under the EPA’s regulations are only responsible for the plumbing under their control. This is where the problem comes in for Flint homeowners. Though the state caused the incident by switching to the more corrosive Flint River water and skimped on anti-corrosion chemicals for the system, by law they are not responsible for anything after the water meter.

That said, because the state deliberately damaged homes, homeowners might get relief in the courts.

When a public water system tests its water and detects too much copper or lead all customers must be notified immediately. In 1991, the EPA replaced the point of entry measurement of lead (where water enters the public system after treatment) from 50ppm to zero.

When our town did its water project (a couple years before I moved here), it replaced all lead and copper service lines. The village also paid to replace all lead service lines from the meters to the home (not required under the law).

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:54:11pm

re: #367 PhillyPretzel

Think before you tweet but do not tweet about everything you think. With a nod to Catherine the Great for the original quote.

You should put that on a picture of her so we can send it out as a meme.

371
Citizen K  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:54:38pm

It’s like people knew what the consequences of President Trump would be.

372
VegasGolfer  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:55:10pm

re: #362 makeitstop

If that’s true, then we know lumpy is a sellout for money and fame. I’ve heard stern say that a few prople on fox are just acting and that they are totally opposite of their on air persona.

373
PhillyPretzel  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:56:10pm

re: #370 Belafon

Do you know where I can find a good picture of her?

374
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:57:50pm
375
Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:59:40pm

re: #373 PhillyPretzel

Do you know where I can find a good picture of her?

en.wikipedia.org

376
Belafon  Apr 6, 2018 • 6:59:57pm

re: #368 Backwoods_Sleuth

Reading through the comments of Kimmel’s last tweet, a lot of conservatives seem to think that he went over the line. But, to me, it’s a valid question, because it shows where Sean stands.

It’s very similar to that woman who had the shirt that said that Trump could grab her. The question I would have had for her is would she have allowed every man in that arena grab her? If not, why is she not welcoming people who want to violate her boundaries?

377
Belafon  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:01:51pm

re: #373 PhillyPretzel

Do you know where I can find a good picture of her?

Nothing other than googling her, which brings up various paintings.

378
Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:04:42pm

re: #369 Anymouse 🌹

All public water systems must test for copper and lead. (Our village right now is working under a grant to replace water meters that have brass components.) Anything above the permissible limit and the public water system must warn customers how to avoid lead or copper contamination.

Public water systems must also test for other contaminates based on local conditions found when water systems are surveyed. (Thus in addition to copper and lead, we must also test for arsenic, uranium, and nitrates.)

The problem isn’t the EPA’s lead limits. States have enforcement authority over public water systems (and may set limits lower than the EPA does, but not higher).

In Flint’s case, the state is failing to enforce the limits (primarily because the state is allegedly the cause of their problem in the first place).

The problem is the EPA under the current maladministration, will not go after the State of Michigan.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:08:57pm
380
Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:10:12pm

In the case of our public water system, we are fine for lead and copper. Nitrates are below the acceptable limit. Uranium is a bit high, and we are wildly outside the limit for arsenic (the new rule as of 2010 is 0.01 micrograms/liter, we usually measure around 70 micrograms).

As such, a water treatment plant is the normal course of action for such water. Since we only have 128 people, there is no way we can afford a water treatment plant, hence the village maintains r/o units in every home that the state requires me to sample once a year.

Bear in mind those water rules apply to public water systems. The same arsenic, uranium, and nitrates can be found in houses right across the road from the town line.

There is no requirement to test private wells. (Homeowners can if they wish, but laboratory testing isn’t real cheap.)

And that’s more on lead and copper in public water than anyone here ever wanted to know.

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:10:13pm

re: #372 VegasGolfer

If that’s true, then we know lumpy is a sellout for money and fame. I’ve heard stern say that a few prople on fox are just acting and that they are totally opposite of their on air persona.

Nah, Lumpy’s a dick in real life, too. We had a family dinner two Easters ago at a LI steak house, and as we walked into the dining room there was a guy loudly berating a waiter. It was Hannity, chewing out the help on Easter Sunday.

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:12:38pm

Some folks at Fox didn’t like the whole Kimmel thing tonight.

And they’re still at it.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:14:21pm

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Skip Intro  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:15:36pm

“Your show is a failure”. Gee who else says things like that?

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:16:59pm

re: #382 makeitstop

Some folks at Fox didn’t like the whole Kimmel thing tonight.

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Shouldn’t Hannity be going after Mr. Non-PC Adam Carolla, too?

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:19:48pm

re: #385 Barefoot Grin

Shouldn’t Hannity be going after Mr. Non-PC Adam Carolla, too?

Yabbut Corolla goes on Fox News and was on BillO’s show a lot. So he gets a pass.

387
PhillyPretzel  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:21:59pm

re: #375 Anymouse 🌹

re: #377 Belafon

So you think it is good. Do you think it can be improved?

388
Barefoot Grin  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:22:17pm

re: #386 makeitstop

Yabbut Corolla goes on Fox News and was on BillO’s show a lot. So he gets a pass.

Carolla is also a professor on Prager University. Sterling credentials.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:22:58pm

Researchers at the University of Cambridge in the U.K. and the University of Helsinki in Finland have created an online psychometric tool, called Susceptibility to Persuasion II (StP-II), that measures a range of personality traits and identifies individuals who are more likely to be victimized by cybercriminals. The tool asks participants to answer questions in order to measure how likely they are to respond to persuasive techniques. “Elements of consumer psychology and behavioral economics all come into the design of an online scam, which is why it’s useful to know which personality traits make people susceptible to them,” says Cambridge professor David Modic. The questions used in StP-II fall into 10 categories, measuring different traits that might make people more susceptible to fraud, including the ability to premeditate, consistency, and sensation seeking. The researchers found the strongest predictor was the ability to premeditate, meaning individuals who fail to consider the possible consequences of a particular action.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:24:10pm

re: #387 PhillyPretzel

So you think it is good. Do you think it can be improved?

My only suggestion would be to put her name on it. Make it sound like her quote.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:25:51pm

re: #390 Belafon

Okay. Where do you suggest I put it? At the top?

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:27:19pm

re: #387 PhillyPretzel

So you think it is good. Do you think it can be improved?

Not by me it can’t. It’s fine. (It reminds me of the meme of Abraham Lincoln that says don’t believe everything you read on the Internet.)

Russian spy poisoning: Sergei Skripal ‘improving rapidly’

Russian former spy Sergei Skripal is no longer in a critical condition after being poisoned by a nerve agent, doctors have said.

Salisbury District Hospital said Mr Skripal is responding well to treatment and “improving rapidly”.

Mr Skripal, 66, and his daughter Yulia, 33, have been in hospital for more than a month after being found unconscious on a bench in Salisbury.

They had been poisoned with a toxic nerve agent called Novichok.

Ms Skripal is conscious and talking in hospital.

The UK government claims Russia is behind the attack but Moscow has denied all involvement, calling the accusations “horrific and unsubstantiated”.

They also note in the article that Yulia’s cousin Viktoria applied for a visa to visit her from Russia, but was denied. Viktoria says she cannot meet the financial requirements of a visa to travel to the UK.

There was speculation that Viktoria was not who she said she was, but Yulia has said about talking to her on the telephone she is certain it is her cousin.

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Belafon  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:29:33pm

re: #391 PhillyPretzel

Okay. Where do you suggest I put it? At the top?

See if you can make it out like a quote:

Think before you tweet but do not tweet about everything you tweet.
- Catherine the Great

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:31:50pm

re: #393 Belafon

That is a good idea and I may try it tomorrow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:34:00pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:39:08pm

bbc.com

Facebook to implement new techniques and features to prevent so-called troll farms from operating pages on its platform. Some of them are things I didn’t know was going on at Facebook during the campaign.

The most interesting to me seems to be political adverts and how they intend to deal with them. They will send a code to a physical US address that the advertiser must input for the advert to go active.

Of course one way around that is for the troll farm to have someone in the US who can do that for them. It would seem there are plenty of people here that would be just fine working for foreign powers against our elections.

397
Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:49:20pm

re: #217 Dave In Austin

398
jaunte  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:53:27pm

re: #382 makeitstop

Uh oh, Hannity has delivered the dreaded “Game on.”

399
jaunte  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:54:10pm

re: #397 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hey now, her brain is barely wrinkled.

400
Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:54:32pm

re: #307 Anymouse 🌹

Yeah, just like Jim Bakker was sharing the gospel with Jessica Hahn when she made him scream “Oh Gawd”!

401
Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:57:48pm

re: #399 jaunte

Hey now, her brain is barely wrinkled.

LOL.

402
Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2018 • 7:59:09pm

Due to lack of knowledge, I am very confused about the verbal battle between former CIA chief Brennan and CIA veteran Daniel Hoffman. Brennan attacks Trump; Hoffman attacks Brennan for this criticism and describes it as playing into Putin’s hands by helping to stoke political divisions. Is there some reason that one should take Hoffman’s criticism seriously? I know nothing about his background.

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makeitstop  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:00:34pm

re: #398 jaunte

Uh oh, Hannity has delivered the dreaded “Game on.”

I noticed that. I wonder if Fox is just going to stand back and let him humiliate himself.

404
jaunte  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:03:02pm

re: #402 Hecuba’s daughter

Here’s a recent NPR piece on Hoffman. For some reason, he doesn’t believe the meeting in Trump tower was evidence of anyone colluding with the Russians.
npr.org

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:03:16pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:03:36pm

8VNdrqfsfMAY3VSWWnmwvYJZqblmhf8p/xgKBs/lb3ytcHKIlnG8iVo3ypaYGzvYoNs418+0LkjIFTsE6mgu7EMiHDT4kaz9fQAhFxErz18=

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Interesting Times  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:05:16pm

re: #399 jaunte

Hey now, her brain is barely wrinkled.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:06:42pm

re: #355 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh, I can’t wait to see how Jimmy strikes back tonight. It ought to be pure platinum!

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sagehen  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:13:43pm

re: #98 Hecuba’s daughter

I always hate this characterization because it excludes the other income tax: FICA taxes. Let’s add them back in. You may also want to add in all the other taxes people pay to see how much they support government: sales tax, property taxes, gas taxes etc. The WSJ has always been dishonest to its core, especially anything on its opinion pages, — and that preceded its acquisition by Murdoch

You also need to add in capital gains tax; that’s where the wealthiest see most of their income, and it’s taxed at less than half the top marginal income tax rate.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:15:48pm

re: #409 sagehen

You also need to add in capital gains tax; that’s where the wealthiest see most of their income, and it’s taxed at less than half the top marginal income tax rate.

Capital gains tax is included in income tax.

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stpaulbear  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:18:15pm

A group of Haight-Ashbury hippie chicks get their band back together to record their first album. If I can be doing so well when I turn 70, I’ll be very happy.

The Haight-Ashbury of 1967 was a place of endless possibility: new ways of living, an influx of ideas, and political and cultural revolution were in the air. And yet amidst this “anything goes” scene, one band still stuck out as an anomaly.

The Ace of Cups didn’t set out to be an all-girl band. The group’s original five members — Mary Gannon, Marla Hunt, Denise Kaufman, Mary Ellen Simpson and Diane Vitalich — came together guided by the communal spirit that blanketed Summer of Love-era San Francisco. Up to that point, most all-female bands had worn matching outfits and played cover songs. But with original songs that reflected their circumstances, the Ace of Cups played with groups like The Band, Jefferson Airplane, and even Jimi Hendrix, an avowed fan.

The Ace of Cups: San Francisco’s (Almost) Forgotten All-Girl Band

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:19:25pm

re: #402 Hecuba’s daughter

Due to lack of knowledge, I am very confused about the verbal battle between former CIA chief Brennan and CIA veteran Daniel Hoffman. Brennan attacks Trump; Hoffman attacks Brennan for this criticism and describes it as playing into Putin’s hands by helping to stoke political divisions. Is there some reason that one should take Hoffman’s criticism seriously? I know nothing about his background.

The issue is the way politics used to work BT (Before Trump). Government officials (especially senior civil service, high-level appointees such as the CIA director, and former presidents) do not undermine the current administration by attacking its policies or personnel directly.

Hoffman appears to be playing by the old rule BT: undermining the current president’s policies or personnel could indeed play into an adversary’s hands. Chief Brennan sees Donald Trump as the bigger threat.

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BeachDem  Apr 6, 2018 • 8:21:32pm

re: #406 Stanley Sea

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St. Vincent - Slow Slow Disco (Audio)Songs are living things. They grow, they evolve, they change their moods and personalities over time. The latest version of 'Slow Disco' originally found on MASSEDUCTION. Upcoming Live Shows: ilovestvincent.com Connect with St. Vincent:instagram.com@st_vincentfacebook.com
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Sarah Palin’s Son Arrested on Domestic Violence Charges Sarah Palin's oldest son, Track Palin, was arrested Friday on domestic violence charges, Alaska State Troopers said. Troopers responded to his home in Wasilla at 10:37 p.m. after a report of a disturbance. Palin allegedly assaulted an acquaintance, then ...
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Elvis Costello & the Imposters - Suspect My Tears (Audio) "Suspect My Tears" from the forthcoming album Look NowPre-order the new album Look Now:Official Store (signed + exclusive merch): found.eeAmazon (CD + vinyl): found.eeiTunes (digital download): found.eeSpotify (pre-save): found.eeApple Music (pre-add): found.ee Listen to “Suspect My Tears”:iTunes: found.eeSpotify: found.eeApple ...
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Dark Phoenix In DARK PHOENIX, the X-MEN face their most formidable and powerful foe: one of their own, Jean Grey. During a rescue mission in space, Jean is nearly killed when she is hit by a mysterious cosmic force. Once she ...
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