FBI Raids Office of Trump Lawyer Michael Cohen

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Just breaking at the New York Times: F.B.I. Raids Office of Trump’s Longtime Lawyer Michael Cohen.

The F.B.I. on Monday raided the office of President Trump’s longtime personal lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, seizing records related to several topics including payments to a pornographic-film actress.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:32:17pm
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Ace-o-aces  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:32:52pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:33:23pm
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A Mom Anon  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:34:02pm

Can I do my evil moohahahaha laugh now? Please?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:34:56pm
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Interesting Times  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:35:05pm
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makeitstop  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:36:37pm

re: #4 A Mom Anon

Can I do my evil moohahahaha laugh now? Please?

Hell, I’ll join ya.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:37:43pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:37:47pm

re: #4 A Mom Anon

Can I do my evil moohahahaha laugh now? Please?

It’s part of being a lizard overlord. You can indulge whenever you like.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:37:50pm

Welp, lunh break over. Let’s see what happens by the time I clock out.

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lawhawk  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:37:54pm

As all the twitter JDs go scrambling for the crime-fraud exception as to how Mueller intends to use the windfall of info he’s just seized and what he intends to do to get Cohen talking about his favorite subject - Trump.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:38:03pm
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lawhawk  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:38:26pm
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Kragar  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:38:55pm
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jaunte  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:39:05pm
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Belafon  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:39:20pm

(Bringing over)

Remember when people thought Stormy Daniels was a distraction?

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lawhawk  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:40:33pm
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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:40:51pm

[trump] I HARDLY EVEN KNOW MR. COHEN, NEVER TALKED ABOUT ANYTHING BUT GOLF [/trump]

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mmmirele  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:42:08pm

And in other news:

Pilkington is the Guardian’s main US reporter.

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thecommodore  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:43:18pm

BUT WHAT ABOUT PETER STRZOCK HILLARY IS THE REAL COLLUDER!!11!!11!11

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:43:24pm
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makeitstop  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:43:54pm

The warrant came from the Southern District of New York, right?

So….pardon-proof, right? Right?

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dangerman  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:44:36pm

i cant go out to the store right now can i?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:45:10pm

re: #22 makeitstop

The warrant came from the Southern District of New York, right?

So….pardon-proof, right? Right?

I think that’s still Federal.

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lawhawk  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:45:15pm

re: #22 makeitstop

The warrant came from the Southern District of New York, right?

So….pardon-proof, right? Right?

No.

Still a federal warrant.

State crimes could be involved, but this is part of the federal criminal investigation.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:45:27pm
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makeitstop  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:45:35pm

Wait, wait - three locations!

BAHAHA. You’re screwed, Cohen.

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makeitstop  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:46:05pm

re: #25 lawhawk

No.

Still a federal warrant.

State crimes could be involved, but this is part of the federal criminal investigation.

Thanks for clarifying!

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sagehen  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:46:24pm

re: #5 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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A quote from a member of the oversight committee in early 2007, shortly after D’s took the House:

“So far, every tree we’ve barked up has a cat in it.”

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makeitstop  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:47:26pm

re: #26 Blind Frog Belly White

Process this fact, because right now the President is tearing out his wispy hair poof…

There’s a meaningful chance Robert Mueller’s team now has all of the many, many NDAs Trump had with his many, many women.

And Trump’s tax returns.

And all the materials that Stormy handed over to comply with the NDA - letters, photos, maybe (gag) video.

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freetoken  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:47:38pm

re: #26 Blind Frog Belly White

Wouldn’t Mueller already have the tax returns?

Anyway, yes, the NDAs, all of them possibly.

And not just with the women.

There may be much more interesting NDAs lurking in the files.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:47:48pm

re: #27 makeitstop

Wait, wait - three locations!

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BAHAHA. You’re screwed, Cohen.

You gotta love the leakproof nature of the Mueller investigation. Not a single fucking clue this was gonna happen, till it was already ongoing.

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:48:25pm
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makeitstop  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:49:07pm

re: #32 Blind Frog Belly White

You gotta love the leakproof nature of the Mueller investigation. Not a single fucking clue this was gonna happen, till it was already ongoing.

The discipline of that team is ridiculously good.

Meanwhile, Trump’s department heads and spokespeople can’t land on a consistent message by accident.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:49:45pm

re: #32 Blind Frog Belly White

You gotta love the leakproof nature of the Mueller investigation. Not a single fucking clue this was gonna happen, till it was already ongoing.

the man has been driving everyone, from the Trump admin to the media-craving press, to distraction with the way he has been playing his cards so close to his chest

this is amazing

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:50:00pm

Hey, if we’ve learned nothing from watching Law & Order for the last 28 years, seizing lawyers client records and material is a complicated undertaking. And, not executed willy-nilly (or Milli Vanilli for that matter…).

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makeitstop  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:52:47pm

Seen somewhere on Twitter…

Cohen: “So I’m warning you, tread very fucking lightly, because what I’m going to do to you is going to be fucking disgusting. You understand me?”

Mueller: “Hold my beer.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:52:56pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:53:00pm
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jaunte  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:53:39pm
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lawhawk  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:54:09pm

re: #34 makeitstop

The discipline of that team is ridiculously good.

Meanwhile, Trump’s department heads and spokespeople can’t land on a consistent message by accident.

Airtight.

We don’t know when he conducts interviews with people until after the fact. He doesn’t let people know that he’s conducting searches until after they’re well in progress.

Trump’s got no way to combat this except to try and claim Mueller’s some Democratic party operative (he’s a GOPer who got the Newt stamp of approval, right until Mueller started delivering indictments and guilty pleas).

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:55:24pm

Remember the good old days when Malia Obama smoking weed at Lollapalooza was a scandal?

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Belafon  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:55:38pm

Is Fox covering the raids?

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makeitstop  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:56:13pm

Oh, man, the memes…

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:56:42pm

re: #43 Belafon

Is Fox covering the raids?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

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KGxvi  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:57:18pm

re: #40 jaunte

Ingraham has a law degree, so presumably she knows about the crime-fraud exception to the attorney-client privilege. She should also, presumably, know something about the basics of criminal law and the fact that prosecutors (who are lawyers) and judges (who used to be lawyers) are very wary to fuck with the attorney-client privilege unless it is the most egregious example.

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Belafon  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:57:21pm

This line from Doug! over at Balloon Juice is so correct:

I try not to OD on Mueller porn but sometimes it just feels so right

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lawhawk  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:58:06pm

re: #44 makeitstop

More interested in the contracts on real estate holdings and foreign-born parties to the deals, and what was promised and why.

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:58:23pm

re: #43 Belafon

Is Fox covering the raids?

“Surveillance directed at the Trump team”
foxnews.com

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makeitstop  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:59:44pm

Welp, if there was any one thing that would trigger a rash of firings at the DoJ, this would probably be it.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 9, 2018 • 1:59:55pm

re: #46 KGxvi

Ingraham has a law degree, so presumably she knows about the crime-fraud exception to the attorney-client privilege. She should also, presumably, know something about the basics of criminal law and the fact that prosecutors (who are lawyers) and judges (who used to be lawyers) are very wary to fuck with the attorney-client privilege unless it is the most egregious example.

I’m assuming there is some significance to the fact that this stuff was seized as part of the service of a search warrant. Knowing that raiding an attorney’s properties is a high-risk endeavor that could backfire badly if done wrong, I’d have to assume that the search warrant is quite specific on what it’s looking for, and getting such a search warrant from a judge (who is, or was, a practicing attorney) would not be easy if it wasn’t for a sound cause.

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Varek Raith  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:00:16pm

Lol.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:02:40pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:04:18pm
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Mike Lamb  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:04:44pm

re: #40 jaunte

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I’m sure the judge(s) that reviewed the application for the warrant didn’t consider the attorney-client privilege implications at all. Thanks Laura!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:05:09pm
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jaunte  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:05:54pm

re: #55 Mike Lamb

Any of Laura’s communications have to be examined through the lens of “what lie is she telling the suckers?”

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dangerman  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:06:40pm

re: #34 makeitstop

The discipline of that team is ridiculously good.

Meanwhile, Trump’s department heads and spokespeople can’t land on a consistent message by accident…..for 10 minutes in a row

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Kilroy was here  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:06:42pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:10:25pm

Meanwhile…

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KGxvi  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:10:48pm

re: #51 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m assuming there is some significance to the fact that this stuff was seized as part of the service of a search warrant. Knowing that raiding an attorney’s properties is a high-risk endeavor that could backfire badly if done wrong, I’d have to assume that the search warrant is quite specific on what it’s looking for, and getting such a search warrant from a judge (who is, or was, a practicing attorney) would not be easy if it wasn’t for a sound cause.

Yeah, the idea that this is some banana republic shit, lawyers take this (by which I mean due process of law) very fucking seriously. Cases are won and lost on process as much as facts. And there’s a reason the line “first, let us kill all the lawyers” was said by a fucking villain and not a hero!

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:11:14pm

re: #60 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Nixon clone?

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Varek Raith  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:11:22pm

Well, if Trump is to do something really stupid, now is the time.

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Varek Raith  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:12:19pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:12:29pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:13:52pm

re: #65 goddamnedfrank

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Also effectively guarantees that the oncoming shitstorm of PARTISAN BIAS!!!!! ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE!!!!! is pretty much nipped in the bud.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:23:36pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:24:20pm

Not sure if posted or clarified

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:24:51pm

re: #68 Stanley Sea

Not sure if posted or clarified

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Welp, he’s toast.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:25:07pm

re: #61 KGxvi

Yeah, the idea that this is some banana republic shit, lawyers take this (by which I mean due process of law) very fucking seriously. Cases are won and lost on process as much as facts. And there’s a reason the line “first, let us kill all the lawyers” was said by a fucking villain and not a hero!

Also his victim wasn’t a lawyer, merely literate.

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MsJ  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:26:06pm

re: #27 makeitstop

Wait, wait - three locations!

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BAHAHA. You’re screwed, Cohen.

It sounds like the feds did this at the behest of the NY Atty Generals request. That could make it state not federal negating that all anticipated pardon.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:27:46pm
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makeitstop  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:28:41pm

re: #71 MsJ

It sounds like the feds did this at the behest of the NY Atty Generals request. That could make it state not federal negating that all anticipated pardon.

No, I had that thought, and Lawhawk pointed out that it was a federal warrant.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:29:56pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:29:59pm

re: #22 makeitstop

The warrant came from the Southern District of New York, right?

So….pardon-proof, right? Right?

Southern FEDERAL District of NY AKA not pardon proof. Mueller handed it off to the USA for SDNY because it is not Trump/Russia related.

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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:32:51pm

re: #11 lawhawk

As all the twitter JDs go scrambling for the crime-fraud exception as to how Mueller intends to use the windfall of info he’s just seized and what he intends to do to get Cohen talking about his favorite subject - Trump.

A reminder. This Cohen office search is being reported as not part of the Mueller investigation. There seems to be info that Mueller shared with New York prosecutors and is part of the Stormy Daniels investigation only…at this time.

And part of that may have to do with Mueller staying away from this to not run into any issues with his own investigations. It could keep Trump from further considering firing Rosenstein…and then having Mueller fired. Trump is going to try to sell this as overreach and he may not be able to.

And, is that info to help Avenatti’s case because it could be related to Trump financial records (see IRS tax forms).

It appears to be a further squeeze on Cohen to blow-up and turn on Trump. Mueller sees benefits in Avenatti taking on Cohen and Trump.

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Skip Intro  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:33:59pm

re: #68 Stanley Sea

Not sure if posted or clarified

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Is a Trump Monday Night Massacre about to happen?

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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:34:27pm

re: #16 Belafon

(Bringing over)

Remember when people thought Stormy Daniels was a distraction?

Also brought over)

She is!

To Trump and Cohen. Bigly.

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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:35:18pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:35:49pm
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MsJ  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:36:03pm
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whitebeach  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:40:02pm

re: #61 KGxvi

And there’s a reason the line “first, let us kill all the lawyers” was said by a fucking villain and not a hero!

And again I have to point out that Shakespeare’s villains weren’t cardboard cutouts and sometimes spoke the truth. Although Henry VI wasn’t one of his big hits, this was probably a huge applause/laughter line. And even a hero like Hamlet didn’t express any particular liking for lawyers, as in the graveyard scene.

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KGxvi  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:41:46pm

re: #82 whitebeach

And again I have to point out that Shakespeare’s villains weren’t cardboard cutouts and sometimes spoke the truth. Although Henry VI wasn’t one of his big hits, this was probably a huge applause/laughter line. And even a hero like Hamlet didn’t express any particular liking for lawyers, as in the graveyard scene.

Because everyone hates lawyers until they need one.

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petesh  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:43:12pm

re: #76 ObserverArt

A reminder. This Cohen office search is being reported as not part of the Mueller investigation. There seems to be info that Mueller shared with New York prosecutors and is part of the Stormy Daniels investigation only…at this time.

And part of that may have to do with Mueller staying away from this to not run into any issues with his own investigations. It could keep Trump from further considering firing Rosenstein…and then having Mueller fired. Trump is going to try to sell this as overreach and he may not be able to.

And, is that info to help Avenatti’s case because it could be related to Trump financial records (see IRS tax forms).

It appears to be a further squeeze on Cohen to blow-up and turn on Trump. Mueller sees benefits in Avenatti taking on Cohen and Trump.

Of course Mueller followed procedure, and apparently what he had on Cohen yesterday was (a) criminal; (b) apparently unrelated to Russia; and (c) at least not clearly involving the Trump Presidential campaign.

However, if the Feds in New York find anything to contradict (b) or (c), I suspect they will be on the phone to Mueller’s people, one of whom will take the next flight unless he is already drinking coffee next door.

Also, can it really be that Stormy is our hero?!

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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:45:00pm
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Eventual Carrion  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:45:54pm

re: #6 Interesting Times

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tRump, Making Attorneys Get Attorneys

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whitebeach  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:46:14pm

re: #83 KGxvi

Because everyone hates lawyers until they need one.

Sure. Then they hate them even more.

Fortunately, the fates have preserved me from needing one so far (which is pretty far).

Is it really necessary to point out that the majority of politicians are lawyers?

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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:46:35pm

re: #84 petesh

Of course Mueller followed procedure, and apparently what he had on Cohen yesterday was (a) criminal; (b) apparently unrelated to Russia; and (c) at least not clearly involving the Trump Presidential campaign.

However, if the Feds in New York find anything to contradict (b) or (c), I suspect they will be on the phone to Mueller’s people, one of whom will take the next flight unless he is already drinking coffee next door.

Also, can it really be that Stormy is our hero?!

That is the play for sure.

Who knows what will turn up and make its way to Mueller.

This is tag team stuff. Mueller Investigation, New York Prosecutors, Michael Avenatti versus Trump Clan and Cohen Law.

Seems to be a rather one-sided match to me.

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MsJ  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:49:02pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:51:23pm

Someone better call Saul.

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jamesfirecat  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:51:55pm

re: #33 jaunte

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I can’t find the correct clip online so I’ll just settle for the quote…

Iago: We gotta get outta here! We gotta get out! I gotta start packing, your highness! Only essentials, we gotta travel light. I’ll bring the guns, the weapons, the knives… And how about this picture? I don’t know, I think I’m making a weird face in it?

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calochortus  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:52:24pm

re: #89 MsJ

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One of the responses to that: “MAGA=My Attorney Got Arrested”

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wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:52:26pm

re: #89 MsJ

[…prodding the president to finally sit down for an interview.]

I picture them catching his eye with a matching pair of bracelets connected by a bit of shiny chain.

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calochortus  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:53:05pm

re: #93 wrenchwench

I picture them catching his eye with a matching pair of bracelets connected by a bit of shiny chain.

They’d have to be tiny, of course.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:54:31pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:55:01pm

re: #94 calochortus

They’d have to be tiny, of course.

In the end…out come the plastic zip ties. Tight enough for anyone.

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BlueGrl21  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:55:45pm

And this is reason 231 of 1,000 you don’t go after the f-ing FBI, Donald.

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petesh  Apr 9, 2018 • 2:58:55pm

re: #88 ObserverArt

That is the play for sure.

Who knows what will turn up and make its way to Mueller.

This is tag team stuff. Mueller Investigation, New York Prosecutors, Michael Avenatti versus Trump Clan and Cohen Law.

Seems to be a rather one-sided match to me.

As a sports fan, I enjoy seeing a well-executed 3–0 beatdown by my team, even when I am quite sympathetic to the other one. But Giants-Dodgers or United-City … 9–0 is fine by me. Ahem, cough. I mean, I hope the people in the right achieve the result they deserve and let the chips fall as they may.

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whitebeach  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:00:11pm

re: #84 petesh

Also, can it really be that Stormy is our hero?!

When she was planning to run against Diaper David Vitter for senator from Louisiana, which sadly didn’t happen, she was my hero, so why switch now? I would have voted for her in a Louisiana nanosecond (roughly equals a New York minute).

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fern01  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:01:01pm

re: #20 thecommodore

BUT WHAT ABOUT PETER STRZOCK HILLARY IS THE REAL COLLUDER!!11!!11!11

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The real reason why a GOP congress does nothing & the Dems are left to provide a government that actually works for the country.

Remember all those witch hunts of 2008-9 searching for who was to blame for the weapons of mass destruction wars. Neither do I - congress was all tied up with legislating the ACA. The GOP congress has spent more time investigating the Clinton Family than trump has spent eating fast food.

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Skip Intro  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:02:04pm

re: #90 GlutenFreeJesus

Someone better call Saul.

Saul isn’t real. Better call Orly.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:04:11pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:05:31pm

re: #101 Skip Intro

Saul isn’t real. Better call Orly.

She’s not real either. ;)

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The Major  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:06:21pm

re: #102 Patricia Kayden

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Skip Intro  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:07:15pm

re: #103 GlutenFreeJesus

She’s not real either. ;)

The better term for Orly is unreal.

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whitebeach  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:08:22pm

re: #105 Skip Intro

The better term for Orly is unreal.

Surreal.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:09:16pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:12:00pm

Ari has former Senator Torricelli on and he is saying this Cohen raid is very unusual and would take a really high bar to clear to get the warrants. So, it has to be Youuge!!!

He said it can’t be something as minor (in this case) as campaign finance rules, etc. He thinks it is either evidence in obstruction/collusion or destroying important evidence.

And he just threw this out…does Rosenstein make it through the night?

The heat is on…it just got turned to high!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:14:15pm
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:14:19pm

re: #90 GlutenFreeJesus

Saul’s offices just got raided, can’t even call him..

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freetoken  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:21:18pm

re: #108 ObserverArt

If Trump does get rid of Rosenstein, will any of the Republicans in Congress have the spine to do anything about it?

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Skip Intro  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:22:31pm

re: #111 freetoken

If Trump does get rid of Rosenstein, will any of the Republicans in Congress have the spine to do anything about it?

Not a single one of them. Not even the ones who are leaving or dying.

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Jay C  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:23:50pm

re: #111 freetoken

If Trump does get rid of Rosenstein, will any of the Republicans in Congress have the spine to do anything about it?

You mean outside of going in front of cameras, wearing their Very Serious Faces and Voicing Their Very Serious Concerns?
Probably not.

Next question?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:25:01pm

re: #110 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Saul’s offices just got raided, can’t even call him..

Saul Goodman is at least a really good lawyer, for all that he’s an ethical nightmare. Cohen is just an ethical nightmare.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:26:44pm

The yam commented.

They’re waiting for the tape on CNN

Witch hunt
Attack on our own country

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:27:52pm

My thinking is that the longer Trump waited, and continues to wait, to fire Mueller, the worse it gets for him if he does. Before the first indictments, he might have gotten the GOP to go along with arguing there was no ‘there’ there. Now, as it gets closer and closer to him, it becomes harder to argue that it’s not blatant obstruction.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:27:58pm

re: #115 Stanley Sea

The yam commented.

They’re waiting for the tape on CNN

Witch hunt
Attack on our own country

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freetoken  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:29:45pm

Trump will not go down without a fight. His ego cannot allow him to be ultimately humiliated.

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Danack  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:30:02pm

re: #108 ObserverArt

He said it can’t be something as minor (in this case) as campaign finance rules, etc.

I think money laundering will have been chosen as the next crime to openly know about and to get closer to Trump as it’s easy to explain the crime to the the public:

* if you show money moving around.
* If you have a co-conspirator who has flipped they will plead guilty and can explain to the jury (and more importantly the public), how it was a crime.
* Having a single document signed by Cohen that shows guilt.

There’s no talking points around whether it was crime or not, and the public can see it’s a large amount of money, which makes (hopefully) most Republicans see that the leaders of their party are corrupt and need to be removed.

Mueller and his now extended team all know that there is a massive political angle to these crimes. Convincing the public that Trump and Cohen are guilty is almost as important to convincing a jury that he’s guilty, if not more so.

It’s not like the FBI will have forgotten the Oklahoma City bombing.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:30:17pm

Soooooo unfair

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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:31:53pm

re: #111 freetoken

If Trump does get rid of Rosenstein, will any of the Republicans in Congress have the spine to do anything about it?

re: #112 Skip Intro

Not a single one of them. Not even the ones who are leaving or dying.

Well, many said that firing anyone to get to Mueller to have him fired would be a Constitutional Crisis and could lead to impeachment filings.

So, any way this goes down it is going to hurt the GOP.

Are they all prepared to see themselves the minority party in 2018?

They are walking in a field of landmines.

Oh…Donny is on and complaining about the witch hunt. Sounds like he is going to do what he can to make this into his last stand.

Crybaby time.

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freetoken  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:32:56pm

It has been observed (by countless) about human nature:
1) a person’s character is revealed by what they do and say;
2) as one gets older, one gets set in their ways.

Trump will not miraculously turn into a good Boy Scout.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:33:15pm

He’s accusing Hillary (the other side) of committing crimes.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:34:18pm

He’s going on and on and on.

Wild.

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Jay C  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:34:39pm

re: #117 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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And “Hillary’s emails”: really going for the Trifecta Of Derp (and getting there!).

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:35:27pm

re: #119 Danack

I think money laundering will have been chosen as the next crime to openly know about and to get closer to Trump as it’s easy to explain the crime to the the public:

* if you show money moving around.
* If you have a co-conspirator who has flipped they will plead guilty and can explain to the jury (and more importantly the public), how it was a crime.
* Having a single document signed by Cohen that shows guilt.

There’s no talking points around whether it was crime or not, and the public can see it’s a large amount of money, which makes (hopefully) most Republicans see that the leaders of their party are corrupt and need to be removed.

Mueller and his now extended team all know that there is a massive political angle to these crimes. Convincing the public that Trump and Cohen are guilty is almost as important to convincing a jury that he’s guilty, if not more so.

It’s not like the FBI will have forgotten the Oklahoma City bombing.

I have assumed that Trump has been laundering money for decades, with the assistance of his consigliere. Whenever I say to my Trump worshipping brother that Trump was involved with the mob, his reaction was: “who cares” — that’s how you had to do real estate business in NY. So another characteristic of Trump supporters, they care nothing about the law or ethics and do not consider mob affiliations a possible disqualifier for the presidency.

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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:35:34pm

re: #123 Stanley Sea

He’s accusing Hillary (the other side) of committing crimes.

He’s coming unglued. This is a campaign rehash of Hillary/Dem crimes and it is not going to help him one bit now.

Something big is about to happen. He realizes he is in deep now.

It’s going to be a hell of a night in the White House tonight.

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Kragar  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:38:00pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:38:27pm

Oh he is steamed. You can see it in his eyes as he tries to not answer reporter’s questions.

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petesh  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:38:40pm

Is someone watching Trump — I mean a lizard — wazzup now?

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:39:35pm

re: #127 ObserverArt

He’s coming unglued. This is a campaign rehash of Hillary/Dem crimes and it is not going to help him one bit now.

Something big is about to happen. He realizes he is in deep now.

It’s going to be a hell of a night in the White House tonight.

No — he’s not coming unglued. He is preaching to his base who already believe that Comey and Obama and Hillary are going to jail. He is following the tyrant’s playbook for seizing permanent power. Do you really believe that any Republicans will stand up to him?

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Skip Intro  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:40:20pm

re: #127 ObserverArt

I wonder what Hannity’s show will be about tonight? Paula Jones?

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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:41:02pm

re: #132 Skip Intro

I wonder what Hannity’s show will be about tonight? Paula Jones?

Jimmy KImmel

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fern01  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:41:07pm

re: #123 Stanley Sea

He’s accusing Hillary (the other side) of committing crimes.

And he calls any investigation of himself/his lawyer “a witch hunt”
He should have a chat with Hillary and Bill.

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fern01  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:42:47pm

re: #131 Hecuba’s daughter

No — he’s not coming unglued. He is preaching to his base who already believe that Comey and Obama and Hillary are going to jail. He is following the tyrant’s playbook for seizing permanent power. Do you really believe that any Republicans will stand up to him?

He wants to live in a country where the previous president/political opponent goes to prison. He’s having trouble finding cause for President Obama but Hillary is a good substitute.

He would be King.

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calochortus  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:43:32pm

A hot take on the $130,000 payment from FR-with no sign that it is snark.

To: SE Mom
It’s probably not that unusual among the upper middle class for one’s personal attorney to transfer $130,000 or some other trivial amount of petty cash to another party and forget to mention it to their client.

241 posted on 4/9/2018, 3:28:38 PM by Blue House Sue

Umm, I think we’re upper middle class and I can assure you that $130,000 is not petty cash. You would have to be uber-wealthy for that to be petty cash. And your personal attorney’s actual job is to remember that kind of thing. Document it even.
Or it would be if I had a personal attorney.

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MsJ  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:44:39pm

re: #127 ObserverArt

He’s coming unglued. This is a campaign rehash of Hillary/Dem crimes and it is not going to help him one bit now.

Something big is about to happen. He realizes he is in deep now.

It’s going to be a hell of a night in the White House tonight.

I think you give him too much credit. I don’t think he knows something big, or anything, is going to happen. He’s too addled. He just knows whatever is happening isn’t good.

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MsJ  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:45:26pm

re: #131 Hecuba’s daughter

No — he’s not coming unglued. He is preaching to his base who already believe that Comey and Obama and Hillary are going to jail. He is following the tyrant’s playbook for seizing permanent power. Do you really believe that any Republicans will stand up to him?

No. But I bet we see some more Republican resignations this week.

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The Major  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:45:49pm

re: #119 Danack

have assumed that Trump has been laundering money for decades, with the assistance of his consigliere.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:46:04pm

re: #127 ObserverArt

He’s coming unglued. This is a campaign rehash of Hillary/Dem crimes and it is not going to help him one bit now.

Something big is about to happen. He realizes he is in deep now.

It’s going to be a hell of a night in the White House tonight.

I guess this was unknown until he blabbed it.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:47:03pm
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MsJ  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:47:30pm

You have to remember that trump is like rosanne. They fully believe every conspiracy theory out there. I bet he fully believes that Clinton is guilty of whatever they said; pizzagate, emails, all of it. These people are absolute morons who are readers of Reddit, 4Chan, InfoWars, et al, and watchers of Fox News.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:48:03pm

re: #136 calochortus

A hot take on the $130,000 payment from FR-with no sign that it is snark.
To: SE Mom
It’s probably not that unusual among the upper middle class for one’s personal attorney to transfer $130,000 or some other trivial amount of petty cash to another party and forget to mention it to their client.

241 posted on 4/9/2018, 3:28:38 PM by Blue House Sue

Umm, I think we’re upper middle class and I can assure you that $130,000 is not petty cash. You would have to be uber-wealthy for that to be petty cash. And your personal attorney’s actual job is to remember that kind of thing. Document it even.
Or it would be if I had a personal attorney.

Actually, I think this is the long-standing arrangement that any mobster has with his attorney; the attorney is paid well and the money includes funds that the attorney handles without bothering the boss. The only possible flaw in my logic is that Trump is notorious for not paying his debts and so maybe Cohen isn’t that well-paid

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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:48:11pm

re: #131 Hecuba’s daughter

No — he’s not coming unglued. He is preaching to his base who already believe that Comey and Obama and Hillary are going to jail. He is following the tyrant’s playbook for seizing permanent power. Do you really believe that any Republicans will stand up to him?

Did I say I did?

You’re making more out of my words that my intention. Think what you want, but he is pissed off. And hopefully he makes some critical mistakes.

Sure his base will love it. And he can play to them all he wants. The fool doesn’t know how this all works. And really playing to his base could lead to even more evidence he is obstructing.

I don’t give a damn about his base. I care about the future. And depending how this goes it could really hurt the GOP. That is my hope. His base could fuck him and the GOP up as the rest of America that is neither watches and dislikes it all.

We the people that are not his base are going to be the real fix.

And yes I know many of you think the Republicans are not going to do shit. Fine. Think what you want. I’m going to watch and hope. Is that so bad?

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BigPapa  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:48:37pm

re: #136 calochortus

I just had a client request a proposal to upgrade the WiFi in his vacation home. Decent router, new access points. He asked if he could have his company buy them and supply since they could probably get them cheaper than Amazon. He made $16m last year.

$130k is not chump change to Trump. It’s not to any of them.

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Jay C  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:49:16pm

re: #134 fern01

And he calls any investigation of himself/his lawyer “a witch hunt”
He should have a chat with Hillary and Bill.

I wonder what the over/under would be on the first RW talking-head formally pronouncing that Bill Clinton’s “crimes”* were MUCH worse than anything Trump has done, and that Bill’s impeachment was MUCH more deserved, and the lengthy investigation into every WH blowjob was MUCH more justified…
And probably on the grounds that Clinton’s failings were entire “moral”, and thus proper grounds to boot his ass back to Arkansas; while Trump’s venal peculations and corrupt incompetence are all just “sharp business” and “politics as usual”. IOKIYAR elevated to Guiding Principle**

*or Hillary’s, same diff…
** more so that it is already

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calochortus  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:49:26pm

re: #143 Hecuba’s daughter

Actually, I think this is the long-standing arrangement that any upper middle class mobster has with his attorney; the attorney is paid well and the money includes funds that the attorney handles without bothering the boss. The only possible flaw in my logic is that Trump is notorious for not paying his debts and so maybe Cohen isn’t that well-paid

Fixed it for you.

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Archangelus  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:50:58pm

Damn, I tune out for the better part of the day and miss the excitement…. Has Orange McDumbass melted down yet? Are we all good on popcorn and snacks? //

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KGxvi  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:51:46pm

re: #87 whitebeach

Sure. Then they hate them even more.

Fortunately, the fates have preserved me from needing one so far (which is pretty far).

Is it really necessary to point out that the majority of politicians are lawyers?

If people hate us more, it’s usually because we tell them the truth: you’re not getting a multimillion dollar settlement, litigation doesn’t work like on TV where it’s wrapped up neatly in a day or two, it’s a long messy process that sometimes you lose on and no amount of righteous indignation is going to change that fact. More likely everyone is going to be pissed off with the settlement and it’s going to be the least bad outcome.

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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:51:54pm

re: #137 MsJ

I think you give him too much credit. I don’t think he knows something big, or anything, is going to happen. He’s too addled. He just knows whatever is happening isn’t good.

Yeah, you say that all the time.

You too are taking my words your own way. When I said something big is going to happen it will be caused by Trump because of all this.

I think it time to take a break.

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The Major  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:52:27pm

And on some more happy news….

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BigPapa  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:52:53pm

re: #148 Archangelus

Damn, I tune out for the better part of the day and miss the excitement…. Has Orange McDumbass melted down yet? Are we all good on popcorn and snacks? //

He’s been yapping off the cuff, can’t wait till he hits the Twitterz.

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Archangelus  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:52:59pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:53:49pm

re: #141 Charles Johnson

Reporter: Why don’t you just fire Mueller?

Trump: Why don’t I just fire Mueller? Will, I think it’s a disgrace, but I think it’s a sad situation when you look at what happened and many people have said you should fire him. pic.twitter.com
5:45 PM - Apr 9, 2018

I really hate reporters bringing up the firing of Mueller since it will only encourage him to do so. And if he does, our democracy may not survive the Constitutional crisis this country will face.

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BigPapa  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:54:40pm

“I just heard that they broke into the office of one of my personal attorneys, a good man, and it’s a disgraceful situation, it’s a total witch-hunt”

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:55:18pm

re: #155 BigPapa

“I just heard that they broke into the office of one of my personal attorneys, a good man, and it’s a disgraceful situation, it’s a total witch-hunt”

“One of my”

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MsJ  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:55:42pm

re: #150 ObserverArt

Yeah, you say that all the time.

You too are taking my words your own way. When I said something big is going to happen it will be caused by Trump because of all this.

I think it time to take a break.

I am not picking on you. Don’t go! I was just making a statement.

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KGxvi  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:56:01pm

Completely off topic, but on the LA Craigslist there is an ad for a 1968 Moto Guzzi that has been tempting me for a week… unfortunately, I must first get my motorcycle license in order to fulfill that part of the midlife crisis.

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BigPapa  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:56:45pm

BREAKING: Trump calls probe by special counsel Mueller into election meddling ‘an attack on our country.’

There it is.

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petesh  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:57:55pm

re: #143 Hecuba’s daughter

Actually, I think this is the long-standing arrangement that any mobster has with his attorney; the attorney is paid well and the money includes funds that the attorney handles without bothering the boss. The only possible flaw in my logic is that Trump is notorious for not paying his debts and so maybe Cohen isn’t that well-paid

Apparently Cohen is very rich (per Josh Marshall, I think). Inquiring minds might want to know what proportion of that came from getting on the ground floor of various enterprises (who knows, maybe they even involved the laundering of money) rather than actual payments client-to-lawyer.

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MsJ  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:57:55pm
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KGxvi  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:58:32pm

re: #155 BigPapa

“I just heard that they broke into the office of one of my personal attorneys, a good man, and it’s a disgraceful situation, it’s a total witch-hunt”

They didn’t break into his office, Donny Boy, they executed a fucking search warrant - that’s called due fucking process you ignorant twatwaffle.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 9, 2018 • 3:59:41pm

re: #162 KGxvi

They didn’t break into his office, Donny Boy, they executed a fucking search warrant - that’s called due fucking process you ignorant twatwaffle.

Can’t expect Trump to know about that.

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petesh  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:00:07pm

Just a thought: If we throw Trump into the pond, will he sink or float? That would tell us if he were a witch, right?

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Jay C  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:00:28pm

re: #155 BigPapa

“I just heard that they broke into the office of one of my personal attorneys, a good man, and it’s a disgraceful situation, it’s a total witch-hunt”

Even without a specifically legal background, surely Donald Trump knows that there are these things called “warrants” that have to signed off on by a judge, and that (despite what one sees on TV) the “break-in” is likely to have been far less dramatic than battering-rams and SWAT shields at 3:00am?

But then again, most of Trump’s “base” probably doesn’t understand that life isn’t like TV: or if they do, resent it intensely.

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dangerman  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:01:56pm

re: #155 BigPapa

“I just heard that they broke into the office of one of my personal attorneys, a good man, and it’s a disgraceful situation, it’s a total witch-hunt”

Not that witch hunt
A totally separate witch hunt

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Skip Intro  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:03:02pm

Trump’s going to need a really big hug from Hannity tonight.

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fern01  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:03:31pm

re: #141 Charles Johnson

Trump: Why don’t I just fire Mueller? Will, I think it’s a disgrace, but I think it’s a sad situation when you look at what happened and many people have said you should fire him.

The president* cannot form a sentence, let alone talk with any form of sense or rational thinking. I have no idea how ANY media person can talk about this person as a normal leader of the USA. That the NYT and WaPo treat his comments/tweets as anything but insane ramblings of a delirious old man shows how the 4th estate has fallen into a graveyard. They helped elect this fool with their “both sides” drivel and email insanity.

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KGxvi  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:03:36pm

re: #166 dangerman

Not that witch hunt
A totally separate witch hunt

It’s like the ranches where people can “hunt” when a truck comes out and dumps food for the animals to eat… they just have witch hunts every couple of hours, so it can fit your schedule - maybe get the massage first, and then a round of golf after your big “hunt”

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dangerman  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:04:16pm

re: #158 KGxvi

Completely off topic, but on the LA Craigslist there is an ad for a 1968 Moto Guzzi that has been tempting me for a week… unfortunately, I must first get my motorcycle license in order to fulfill that part of the midlife crisis.

Bias mounted engine right?

Buy it. Learn on it

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BigPapa  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:04:42pm

Now Trump is ranting about the FBI ‘investigating the other side/bleached emails.’

I want him on the stand, televised. The meltdown will be China Syndrome.

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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:05:34pm

re: #157 MsJ

I am not picking on you. Don’t go! I was just making a statement.

I’m going to let it play out. It’s a big change in the dynamics kind of day. And yes, something big is going to happen. Everyone is on this story big time. They all see it is big. They all know it is a huge pressure point.

There seems to be times when saying something could turn positive is still met with “nope” it is all going to go bad. I just do not think like that. So sometimes it is best to watch.

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William Lewis  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:06:35pm

re: #158 KGxvi

Completely off topic, but on the LA Craigslist there is an ad for a 1968 Moto Guzzi that has been tempting me for a week… unfortunately, I must first get my motorcycle license in order to fulfill that part of the midlife crisis.

If you have the coin, go for it. Use it to learn on (from a really good instructor) and enjoy.

I’d love to have the money to find a nice old Yamaha XS650 like I learned on again. Sweet bikes that are, hilariously to me, hot on the vintage racing circuit now.

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fern01  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:06:45pm

re: #159 BigPapa

BREAKING: Trump calls probe by special counsel Mueller into election meddling ‘an attack on our country.’

There it is.

Encouraged and applauded by the US political media.

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KGxvi  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:07:56pm

re: #170 dangerman

Bias mounted engine right?

Buy it. Learn on it

Not sure. But it strangely has the shifter mounted on the right and reversed (one up, three down). It’s only a 750cc bike and I’m a bigger dude, but don’t plan to do any touring, so it’d probably be nice for city riding.

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Skip Intro  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:07:59pm
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Mike Lamb  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:08:08pm

re: #136 calochortus

A hot take on the $130,000 payment from FR-with no sign that it is snark.

Umm, I think we’re upper middle class and I can assure you that $130,000 is not petty cash. You would have to be uber-wealthy for that to be petty cash. And your personal attorney’s actual job is to remember that kind of thing. Document it even.
Or it would be if I had a personal attorney.

Well, uh, you see, that would be a disbarment level ethical issue if an attorney is using his personal funds or the client’s to pay his client’s settlement obligations without the client’s knowledge or consent.

And you’d have to be a multi-millionaire not to notice that $130k went bye-bye. As well as a completely out of touch idiot.

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Archangelus  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:08:13pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:08:47pm

re: #172 ObserverArt

I’m going to let it play out. It’s a big change in the dynamics kind of day. And yes, something big is going to happen. Everyone is on this story big time. They all see it is big. They all know it is a huge pressure point.

There seems to be times when saying something could turn positive is still met with “nope” it is all going to go bad. I just do not think like that. So sometimes it is best to watch.

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Danack  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:08:55pm

Manafort is completely and utterly buggered.

He thought he had one card left to play - whether to co-operate or not with Mueller.

But Mueller can almost certainly prosecute Trump without Manafort’s help now.

Which means Manafort has no move left to play.

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MsJ  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:10:23pm

re: #172 ObserverArt

I’m going to let it play out. It’s a big change in the dynamics kind of day. And yes, something big is going to happen. Everyone is on this story big time. They all see it is big. They all know it is a huge pressure point.

There seems to be times when saying something could turn positive is still met with “nope” it is all going to go bad. I just do not think like that. So sometimes it is best to watch.

I completely agree with you. I wasn’t disagreeing with that. At all. I just think it’s likely trump doesn’t understand. Anything. That was the only point I was making. 🙂

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:10:45pm

re: #180 Danack

Manafort is completely and utterly buggered.

He thought he had one card left to play - whether to co-operate or not with Mueller.

But Mueller can almost certainly prosecute Trump without Manafort’s help now.

Which means Manafort has no move left to play.

And it’s his own damn fault because he decided to double down on the stupid and not cooperate to begin with.

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calochortus  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:12:32pm

re: #180 Danack

Manafort is completely and utterly buggered.

He thought he had one card left to play - whether to co-operate or not with Mueller.

But Mueller can almost certainly prosecute Trump without Manafort’s help now.

Which means Manafort has no move left to play.

Mueller may still want a back-up plan-he strikes me as a ‘belt and suspenders’ kind of person. Terms won’t be as good for Manafort, though.

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petesh  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:13:52pm

re: #183 calochortus

Mueller may still want a back-up plan-he strikes me as a ‘belt and suspenders’ kind of person. Terms won’t be as good for Manafort, though.

I agree. And Manafort’s life expectancy may well be somewhat greater inside jail.

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MsJ  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:14:24pm

re: #182 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And it’s his own damn fault because he decided to double down on the stupid and not cooperate to begin with.

To be honest, he likely fears for his life far more than he does prison.

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wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:15:42pm

From another world:

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:15:54pm

re: #185 MsJ

To be honest, he likely fears for his life far more than he does prison.

You’re undoubtedly right about that, since we know Trump is routinely in league with mobsters and other unsavory sorts. Polonium poisoning is not a pleasant way to die.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:15:55pm

re: #167 Skip Intro

Trump’s going to need a really big hug from Hannity tonight.

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Wonder if they are now trying to talk him out of nuking Damascus.

Someone will be leaking soon.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:16:22pm

Can’t stay long because I have a village board meeting to get to (the chat afterward over this raid out to be fun).

It is a shame that those who lived during the Great Depression are dying away now. They remember why you do not elect conservative Republicans. That is why the GOP was out of power for so long in the US House.

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Sea Mexican!  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:16:56pm

re: #164 petesh

Just a thought: If we throw Trump into the pond, will he sink or float? That would tell us if he were a witch, right?

Or will it part away to prevent touching him?

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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:18:05pm

Good thing he is level headed and stable enough to come up with a rational response to the Syrian mess.

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Targetpractice  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:18:19pm

re: #180 Danack

Manafort is completely and utterly buggered.

He thought he had one card left to play - whether to co-operate or not with Mueller.

But Mueller can almost certainly prosecute Trump without Manafort’s help now.

Which means Manafort has no move left to play.

He likely made the “one-time offer” to Pauly: Roll on Trump and the charges will be busted do such that he only does less than 2 years in a federal pen, followed by a few years probation. The ankle monitor comes off, he’ll get his passport back after his probation ends, and his accounts will be unfrozen (barring any that Mueller can prove are filled with ill-gotten loot). But once he turns down the offer, that’s it, then the screws really get tightened.

Manafort thought that it was a bluff, that his testimony and evidence would be too valuable to Mueller that threats of prosecution were “empty.” Recent events have likely awakened him to the reality that he’s going to prison for a very long time.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:18:46pm

re: #191 bill d. (b.d.)

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Good thing he is level headed and stable enough to come up with a rational response to the Syrian mess.

In other words, he’s trying to open the football while his aides are trying to wrestle it away from him.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:19:31pm

.,.,.,.,

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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:19:56pm

re: #181 MsJ

I completely agree with you. I wasn’t disagreeing with that. At all. I just think it’s likely trump doesn’t understand. Anything. That was the only point I was making. 🙂

That was never the point in my comment. Go back and read them. I was only talking about Trump being in a tough spot with today’s news. What has that got to do with his own understanding?

And how the Cohen searches are going to mess him up and hopefully he will do something dumb to really hurt his case.

Also my points are how the GOP is now being boxed in and they have to deal with it Trump realistically and depending how they do it, it could hurt them politically.

Actually I am not really saying much about Trump as more of how today changes everything around him. He can be as addled and ignorant as he wants. It is only going to hurt him and it doesn’t mean anything to prosecutors.

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Targetpractice  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:20:18pm

Bolton must be tickled pink right now: First day on the job and he’s already got a foreign crisis that gives he an outlet for Donny’s rage over the Cohen raid.

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Dizzy  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:20:49pm
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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:21:23pm

re: #193 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

In other words, he’s trying to open the football while his aides are trying to wrestle it away from him.

Trump will rendition Mueller to Syria and then nuke it.

//

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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:22:08pm

re: #197 Dizzy

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So tired of all this winning.

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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:23:31pm

re: #182 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And it’s his own damn fault because he decided to double down on the stupid and not cooperate to begin with.

All the Trump associated men suffer the same dangerous character trait. Arrogance. It will be their undoing.

How long did John Gotti strut around on the streets of New York acting all untouchable, flaunting it?

Who brought him down?

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Kragar  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:24:26pm

re: #197 Dizzy

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:24:49pm

“I’ll take “America’s worst possible fever dream” for $300 Alex”

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KGxvi  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:25:04pm

re: #191 bill d. (b.d.)

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Good thing he is level headed and stable enough to come up with a rational response to the Syrian mess.

WE’RE GETTING OUT OF SYRIA - BUT DON’T CALL IT A TIME LINE

Syria and/or Russia use WMD against civilians

WE NEED A COUPLE DAYS TO FIGURE OUT OUR RESPONSE

FBI executes search warrant on Cohen at three locations

FUCKING BOMB EVERY FUCKING THING RIGHT COTDAM NOW

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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:25:05pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:26:12pm

re: #200 ObserverArt

All the Trump associated men suffer the same dangerous character trait. Arrogance. It will be their undoing.

How long did John Gotti strut around on the streets of New York acting all untouchable, flaunting it?

Who brought him down?

I’m from the Midwest. We use a different example: Al Capone. And who is it that got Capone in the end? That’s right, the IRS. There’s a reason Donald J. Trump did not want to release his tax returns.

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Danack  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:26:14pm

I really hope Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan realise that it’s the beginning of the end, and that Trump needs to be impeached before he does something crazy that gets a fuckload of people killed.

re: #196 Targetpractice

Bolton must be tickled pink right now: First day on the job and he’s already got a foreign crisis that gives he an outlet for Donny’s rage over the Cohen raid.

So McConnell and Ryan might have less than 20 minutes.

*this_is_fine.jpg*

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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:26:26pm

WHAT DOES THIS LIBTARD KNOW ABOUT ANYTHING?!

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freetoken  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:26:28pm

re: #201 Kragar

News comes at you fast in the Drumpfepoche.

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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:26:51pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:27:55pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:28:07pm

re: #200 ObserverArt

All the Trump associated men suffer the same dangerous character trait. Arrogance. It will be their undoing.

How long did John Gotti strut around on the streets of New York acting all untouchable, flaunting it?

Who brought him down?

His car was being shown off in Las Vegas and Mr. w said to its attendant, ‘Well, at least he served his full sentence.’ The guy said, ‘No, he died in prison.’ Mr. w said, ‘What was his sentence?’ The guy said, ‘Life. …oh.’

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:28:30pm

As a reminder, a nationwide protest is planned if Robert Mueller is fired:

act.moveon.org

The Website includes a map to search by Zip Code, and a place to create an event if none is near you.

Donald Trump is publicly considering firing Special Counsel Robert Mueller, the person leading the Department of Justice investigation of possible criminal actions by Donald Trump and members of his presidential campaign, as well as the efforts to conceal those activities.

It’s also possible that, rather than firing Mueller, Trump will obstruct Mueller’s investigation by issuing blanket pardons of key figures being investigated, firing Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein (the person overseeing Mueller), or taking other actions to prevent the investigation from being conducted freely.

Any one of these actions would create a constitutional crisis for our country. It would demand an immediate and unequivocal response to show that we will not tolerate abuse of power from Donald Trump.

Our response in the hours following a power grab will dictate what happens next and whether Congress—the only body with the constitutional power and obligation to rein Trump in from his rampage—will do anything to stand up to him.

That’s why we’re preparing to hold emergency “Nobody is Above the Law” rallies around the country, in the event they are needed.

(more)

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KGxvi  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:28:35pm

re: #202 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“I’ll take “America’s worst possible fever dream” for $300 Alex”

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The sad thing is, if this fucking addled idiot we have now could win, that means Palin could fucking win.

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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:28:41pm
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MsJ  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:31:04pm

re: #213 KGxvi

The sad thing is, if this fucking addled idiot we have now could win, that means Palin could fucking win.

Palin doesn’t have Trump’s celebrity. That’s what got him the win. People think reality shows are real.

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VegasGolfer  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:31:12pm

re: #202 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

What office has a 6 month term?

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BigPapa  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:34:37pm

This is bad for Trumpet:

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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:36:34pm

re: #217 BigPapa

This is bad for Trumpet:

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Rod Rosenstein is a witch!

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freetoken  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:36:51pm

re: #215 MsJ

Palin doesn’t have Trump’s celebrity. That’s what got him the win. People think reality shows are real.

Vince McMahon ran a story on his main show, a few years back, about Trump buying WWE, complete with Trump showing up on Vince’s tv show.

Sure enough, the WWE stock reacted, Wall Street reacted.

It was all a work.

And Vince had to come out quickly shortly after and actually say it was all storyline so that the idiot investors couldn’t claim they were deceived.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:36:56pm

re: #215 MsJ

Palin doesn’t have Trump’s celebrity. That’s what got him the win. People think reality shows are real.

With a little help from Facebook and Twitter, and outside actors.

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Targetpractice  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:38:53pm

re: #203 KGxvi

WE’RE GETTING OUT OF SYRIA - BUT DON’T CALL IT A TIME LINE

Syria and/or Russia use WMD against civilians

WE NEED A COUPLE DAYS TO FIGURE OUT OUR RESPONSE

FBI executes search warrant on Cohen at three locations

FUCKING BOMB EVERY FUCKING THING RIGHT COTDAM NOW

We laugh, but that’s exactly the sort of “wag the dog” shit that appeals to wingnuts. Expect there to be a predawn “raid” that blows up a few ammo dumps and some old jets, followed by Donny flexing in front of the cameras about how “strong” he is against Assad. All while Vlad assures his buddy over the phone that whatever we blow up, he’ll replace at no charge.

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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:39:32pm

re: #216 VegasGolfer

What office has a 6 month term?

All of them Katie.

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Archangelus  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:40:13pm
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MsJ  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:40:13pm

re: #220 Anymouse 🌹

With a little help from Facebook and Twitter, and outside actors.

I honestly can’t see enough ratfucking that would give us Palin. Almost anyone else, sure, but she’s a known moron. And a woman. Not gonna happen.

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fern01  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:41:10pm

re: #220 Anymouse 🌹

With a little help from Facebook and Twitter, and outside actors.

I think she’s done - other than becoming local dogcatcher. Alaska doesn’t want her and a couple of other places were underwhelmed.

And she had all 5 children with the same partner - I will always be double amazed at how the conservative right gave up on family values for trump.

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scottslemmons  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:41:12pm

re: #196 Targetpractice

Bolton must be tickled pink right now: First day on the job and he’s already got a foreign crisis that gives he an outlet for Donny’s rage over the Cohen raid.

“Don’t stop with Syria, Donald! Wyoming’s been getting mouthy, too! Take ‘em all out!”

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:42:08pm

re: #202 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“I’ll take “America’s worst possible fever dream” for $300 Alex”

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Yeah, but even without impeachment she would not serve the full term anyway.

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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:42:25pm

re: #217 BigPapa

This is bad for Trumpet:

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That US atty was appointed by Trump. LOL

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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:42:43pm

re: #225 MsJ

I honestly can’t see enough ratfucking that would give us Palin. Almost anyone else, sure, but she’s a known moron. And a woman. Not gonna happen.

Pence can’t make her VP once Trump is thrown in jail, the can’t be in the same room alone.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:43:01pm

This is what you get when the Big Cheese decides that chaos is a good business model…

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calochortus  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:44:13pm

BBL

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:44:28pm

re: #229 JordanRules

That US atty was appointed by Trump. LOL

To replace Preet Bharara when Kasowitz told Trump Bharara would put him in jail.

heh.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:44:40pm

re: #230 bill d. (b.d.)

Pence can’t make her VP once Trump is thrown in jail, the can’t be in the same room alone.

That’s pretty creepy right there. He’s afraid he might assault a woman alone?

Comment over at Wonkette

Just got this text from the Georgia organizers of “Not Above The Law” protests:

Georgia Alliance f: Yes we are ready if Trump fires Mueller. We are meeting tonight w/ the national team of organizations planning for a protest if he’s fired.

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:44:55pm

re: #225 MsJ

I honestly can’t see enough ratfucking that would give us Palin. Almost anyone else, sure, but she’s a known moron. And a woman. Not gonna happen.

Oh, Sarah Palin could easily become the first female US president. She has all the same qualities as Trump - unable to speak in complete sentences, aggrieved emotive hatred of anyone FOX says to hate, and a dysfunctional and criminal family worthy of reality TV. An America that elected Donald Trump - Donald fucking Trump, of all people - would elect Sarah Palin easily. She’s just like Trump, but better looking.

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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:48:51pm

re: #229 JordanRules

That US atty was appointed by Trump. LOL

They are all witches!

Not a decent human to be found to help Donny.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:49:24pm

re: #235 Renaissance_Man

Oh, Sarah Palin could easily become the first female US president. She has all the same qualities as Trump - unable to speak in complete sentences, aggrieved emotive hatred of anyone FOX says to hate, and a dysfunctional and criminal family worthy of reality TV. An America that elected Donald Trump - Donald fucking Trump, of all people - would elect Sarah Palin easily. She’s just like Trump, but better looking.

She’s past her ‘Sell By’ date - politically, I mean. Most of the people who thought she was the bees knees realized she’s only in it for the fame and money. Trump, they can pretend he’s a successful businessman. Palin is a nobody who managed to briefly become somebody.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:49:42pm

Over/under on how many more Republicans say they’re not running for reëlection in the next week, on news of the raid?

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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:51:22pm

re: #238 Anymouse 🌹

Over/under on how many more Republicans say they’re not running for reëlection in the next week, on news of the raid?

The big one to watch is Paul Ryan. He hasn’t even declared he is running yet has he?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:52:47pm
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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:53:51pm
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Dizzy  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:54:27pm

Wouldn’t it be great if this could take the RNC down too.

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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:56:00pm

re: #239 ObserverArt

The big one to watch is Paul Ryan. He hasn’t even declared he is running yet has he?

Did a search to find out…saw this new article from Politico. I am keeping in mind it is Politico.

Politico - The race to replace Paul Ryan is on

Two top members of Paul Ryan’s leadership team, Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy and Majority Whip Steve Scalise, have begun angling for his job in the event the speaker calls it quits after the election.

They’re closely monitoring the moves of the other and quietly courting Republicans who could help either of them clinch the top post, according to 20 GOP lawmakers and aides interviewed for this report.

Neither is actively rounding up votes at this point, and both downplayed the possibility of a looming clash. Scalise said in an interview that he would not challenge McCarthy for speaker — “I’m not running against Kevin for anything,” he told POLITICO — while McCarthy said he’s focused solely on keeping the House in November and pursuing President Donald Trump’s agenda.

But Scalise also expressed interest in leading the conference someday — remarks that only intensified simmering speculation in GOP circles about his intentions. Adding to the intrigue, some of Scalise’s allies have urged him to be ready should McCarthy falls short for speaker, as he did in 2015. And some of McCarthy’s allies discount Scalise’s vows not to mount a direct challenge, noting Scalise’s willingness to attempt to leapfrog more senior Republicans in the past.

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scottslemmons  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:56:17pm

re: #239 ObserverArt

The big one to watch is Paul Ryan. He hasn’t even declared he is running yet has he?

I’m assuming the next Republican nominee will be an Fox News personality.

On one hand, it’d be hilarious to watch all the GOP politicos who’ve worked their way through the system for decades get kicked in the balls again by a lunatic outsider. On the other hand, we’d probably end up with Hannity, Alex Jones, or David Duke as president. :/

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:56:37pm

re: #242 Dizzy

Wouldn’t it be great if this could take the RNC down too.

Oooh. Not fair. I can’t start my celebratory drinking yet, as I have a village board meeting in an hour. Probably woudn’t be good to show up snockered for tonight’s various votes.

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MsJ  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:57:30pm

re: #242 Dizzy

Wouldn’t it be great if this could take the RNC down too.

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Wasn’t Steve Wynn the last one?

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S'latch  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:59:49pm

I hope Mueller is about to deliver the goods. It definitely feels like we’re at that moment when the shit is flying and it’s just about a quarter of an inch away from the fan.

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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2018 • 4:59:55pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:01:25pm

The skiing world in Colorado lost a truly good man who was a pillar in the community.

I was skiing in Snowmass yesterday, just a few miles from the accident site. Patrol didn’t even open the steep double black diamond stuff because the new snow that fell the night before was too unstable. I myself saw several large slides from a distance.

Truly awful and sad.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:02:15pm

re: #145 BigPapa

I just had a client request a proposal to upgrade the WiFi in his vacation home. Decent router, new access points. He asked if he could have his company buy them and supply since they could probably get them cheaper than Amazon. He made $16m last year.

$130k is not chump change to Trump. It’s not to any of them.

This is exactly why the “trickle-down theory” is such bullshit. They’d rather sit on it in off-shore accounts.

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freetoken  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:02:37pm

re: #247 S’latch

I have no idea of Mueller’s timeline for proceeding.

But it appears that what we see today has been evidence that the investigation has uncovered perhaps entire new paths of criminal investigations, given today’s raid was brought about by involving the court in NY.

The wheels of justice turn slowly.

Yet, when the lawyers are being raided, I have to think the angular velocity has increased.

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freetoken  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:03:48pm

It could turn out that the Trump crime family is one of the bigger white-collar crime networks in the US.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:04:58pm

When Trump crosses his arms, he’s full of more shit than usual.

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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:06:38pm

re: #252 freetoken

It could turn out that the Trump crime family is one of the bigger white-collar crime networks in the US.

Orange collar

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:07:28pm
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S'latch  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:07:58pm

re: #251 freetoken

At a minimum it involves campaign finance law violation. We will know soon I think.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:07:59pm

For your listening pleasure:

The Bangles - Manic Monday

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Stanley Sea  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:08:11pm

That he kept saying that the special council FOUND no collusion is amazing.

The report is not out.

He’s such a blatant liar.

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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:08:46pm

re: #255 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Joy Reid ✔
@JoyAnnReid
And the @GOP quest to erase all memory of Michael Cohen begins…

From Says Who Cohen…

to Who Who?

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:09:37pm

re: #258 Stanley Sea

That he kept saying that the special council counsel FOUND no collusion is amazing.

The report is not out.

He’s such a blatant liar.

FTFY

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freetoken  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:10:01pm

Think about this: when Trump was having his high-end campaign rallies at his Mar-o-largess, the sycophants in the room were not the ignorant white racists of the rallies in Alabama.

They were rich folk.

Who wanted to get richer.

And they love Trump because they love money.

The Trump crime network probably extends across hundreds of connections of millionaires and billionaires, around the world, all shuffling their money around to prop up their world of elite wealth.

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William Lewis  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:10:46pm

re: #257 Anymouse 🌹

For your listening pleasure:

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A great song, to be sure, but I’m left more in this mood by today…

Patti Smith - After the Goldrush .wmv

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Stanley Sea  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:11:54pm

re: #260 teleskiguy

FTFY

ARGGGGGGGGGGGG I had a yam moment!

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:12:14pm

Breitbart at Derpcon One:

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:12:14pm

Full Transcript of Trump Pool Spray Rant on Cohen FBI Raid | Talking Points Memo

A veritable cornucopia of bad sentence structure and bad craziness.

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lawhawk  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:12:14pm

re: #76 ObserverArt

Mueller’s investigation continues. The FBI is investigating crimes and potential crimes. They find more evidence of criminal wrongdoing, and that gets spun off.

Mueller’s tasked out some of the work to the SDNY - a federal prosecutor in Manhattan. That’s entirely normal and proper.

If some of this ends up being an entirely separate investigation into Trump-Cohen-Daniels wrongdoing, that’s on Cohen and Trump. It’s what happens when you break laws and prosecutors start digging in to the crime fraud exception to see what was really going on.

None of this is good news for Cohen, let alone Trump.

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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:13:36pm

re: #258 Stanley Sea

That he kept saying that the special council FOUND no collusion is amazing.

The report is not out.

He’s such a blatant liar.

This is what I believe MsJ and others have been saying.

He doesn’t know the difference between a sketchy incomplete report from one (Republican) side of the House Investigation Committee and Mueller’s Investigation and The Senate Investigation.

Also, if it was all true as reported, he has been protected from the truth by his lawyers by them either keeping the facts from him, or outright deception.

So he may be saying only what his limited mind understands.

Not going to help him. It is what it is!

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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:13:59pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:16:18pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:17:22pm

I need to bail out now to get ready for my village board meeting (this should be fun).

I’ll catch y’all later … (reading tonight’s threads here I imagine will take some time… .)

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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:17:33pm

[Can’t find this tweet right now: mobile.twitter.com ]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:17:53pm

re: #255 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

re: #259 ObserverArt

I am overtly amused that the 404 error message appears as a caption of the yam’s photo.

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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:18:08pm

re: #268 JordanRules

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Good to know that Laura is back from vacation to make her followers dumber.

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lawhawk  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:18:40pm

Basically, it’s telling the court that they should deny Daniels’ motion for expedited suit and instead move to arbitration.

Yeah, the court isn’t going to look favorably on that.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:20:39pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:20:48pm

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MsJ  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:21:34pm

re: #271 JordanRules

What was it? It’s gone.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:24:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:24:51pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:25:41pm

From December 2015.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:25:59pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:26:41pm

re: #279 Backwoods_Sleuth

My Democratic Senator.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:27:20pm
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Sea Mexican!  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:27:42pm

re: #275 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Don’tcha know? The FBI is shredding the part of the Constitution that says IOKIYAR. /

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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:28:04pm

re: #277 MsJ

About how Obama’s only raid was to get Bin Laden. Think it might have been a stolen tweet.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:28:09pm

So I sat through “Judge” Napolitano on Bill Hemmer’s Fox show this evening. The judge started to make a devastating case: Mueller found something, but let’s be clear, he can’t pursue it; it was at the level that a judge in SDNY approved. Is this big? asked Hemmer. Yes and no! says the judge. It’s probably about the $130K and what Cohen told the bank, so it’s bank fraud. [Big lean and implication time]: if so this has nothing to do with Trump and will be “seismic” in Trump’s response! [wink wink, fire Mueller]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:28:37pm
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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:29:11pm

re: #287 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Welp. He’s gonna do it now, isn’t he?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:30:25pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:30:29pm
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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:30:31pm

re: #286 Barefoot Grin

So I sat through “Judge” Napolitano on Bill Hemmer’s Fox show this evening. The judge started to make a devastating case: Mueller found something, but let’s be clear, he can’t pursue it; it was at the level that a judge in SDNY approved. Is this big? asked Hemmer. Yes and no! says the judge. It’s probably about the $130K and what Cohen told the bank, so it’s bank fraud. [Big lean and implication time]: if so this has nothing to do with Trump and will be “seismic” in Trump’s response! [wink wink, fire Mueller]

I kinda think 130k bank fraud might not have been enough for this warrant. But IANAL and am definitely doing the speculation dance.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:30:51pm

The attack on Rosenstein was transparently setting the stage to fire him to get to the firing of Mueller.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:31:11pm

re: #287 Backwoods_Sleuth

Brave words. But, scuse me, Trump gets away with so much he has zero reason to take the dems seriously. Sigh.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:31:13pm

re: #292 Barefoot Grin

The attack on Rosenstein was transparently setting the stage to fire him to get to the firing of Mueller.

My thoughts exactly. Monday Night Massacre, here we come.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:32:06pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:32:08pm

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

Richard Blumenthal

@SenBlumenthal
Trump’s rant after raid on his lawyer shows urgent need to #ProtectMueller - now. Republican colleagues and all of Congress must stand up against possible interference. No excuse for silence.

7:22 PM - Apr 9, 2018

Yep, the pressure is on DC. People are watching and the whole Republican party is on the hot seat.

I bet the DC buzz is huge tonight, and the bars are busy.

And I also bet Mueller and the FBI are also watching. There will be people in panic mode and maybe they do dumb stuff trying to hide stuff, buy people off, loose talk, etc.

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scottslemmons  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:32:16pm

I’m at the point where I suspect that everyone in conservative media (possibly including the secretarial and custodial staff), every Republican Congressman, and maybe a few state level legislators have incriminating emails with Russians filed safely away in Mueller’s files. Every time I hear about one of them ranting about firing Mueller, I half-suspect the subtext is “Fire him before he gets around to prosecuting me for treason.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:32:46pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:33:40pm

re: #291 JordanRules

I kinda think 130k bank fraud might not have been enough for this warrant. But IANAL and am definitely doing the speculation dance.

Absolutely. It would have been “please turn over your documents” at most levels. This is serious. Stormy Daniel’s lawyer on Ari Melber’s show through phone sounded deflated. It might be a good thing for his client, but he sounded scared for Cohen as if this were way beyond what they were charging.

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fern01  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:34:46pm

re: #292 Barefoot Grin

The attack on Rosenstein was transparently setting the stage to fire him to get to the firing of Mueller.

Trump was also attacking Sessions - he eats his own administration - can’t imagine what it must be like being part of his family .

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:35:11pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:37:06pm

I saw above that Stormy Daniels locked her Twitter. Well, I’m a “confirmed follower” so I can still see her tweets. Will post screenshots if I see anything interesting. Right now it’s still shameless self promotion. Nothing wrong with that, although the book deal she’ll get will be the best promotion of her of all time, a million times greater than some tweets.

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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:37:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:37:21pm
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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:37:58pm

re: #302 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The cabal has been going at the FBI’s neck for a while now. Maybe legal payback is finally on it’s way!

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Stanley Sea  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:40:13pm

re: #300 fern01

Trump was also attacking Sessions - he eats his own administration - can’t imagine what it must be like being part of his family .

everything he touches, dies.

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:41:19pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:41:32pm

re: #307 Stanley Sea

everything he touches, dies.

Ironically, Vlad may be finding this out, too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:42:30pm
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Ace Rothstein  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:44:14pm

re: #278 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Such a terrible, nasty person.

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Belafon  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:45:06pm

re: #191 bill d. (b.d.)

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Good thing he is level headed and stable enough to come up with a rational response to the Syrian mess.

Clinton, for all his mess, could actually still think about the job of President (he was basically imitating the presidents he grew up with). Trump can’t think of anything but Trump when he’s thinking at all.

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lawhawk  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:45:11pm
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Danack  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:45:45pm

re: #299 Barefoot Grin

Stormy Daniel’s lawyer on Ari Melber’s show through phone sounded deflated. It might be a good thing for his client……

I would imagine her lawyer was hoping to either have Trump/Cohen settle for a large undisclosed sum, or to gain a lot of fame through their trial.

Her story is very likely to be push to the background. It’s possible that her court case might not even proceed until Trump and Cohen aren’t facing criminal prosecution.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:46:09pm
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makeitstop  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:48:01pm

re: #259 ObserverArt

From Says Who Cohen…

to Who Who Dis?

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:48:07pm

3 November 2016.

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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:48:12pm

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Kragar  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:48:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:48:49pm
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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:49:02pm

[Can’t find this tweet right now: mobile.twitter.com ]

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:49:56pm

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:50:27pm

judging by the comments i read in outer wingnuttia, trump will have to end up “discovering” that assad and putin are completely innocent of the chemical attacks and we should get out of syria yesterday instead

that’s mah prediction and ah’m a stickin to it

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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:50:42pm

re: #321 JordanRules

Okay the tweets arent actually disappearing…Twitter seems to be messing around with their “copy tweet” functionality on the mobile platform. Strange.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:51:42pm
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Jay C  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:51:45pm

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah, right. Trump IS a “law and order President” in the classic Republican sense of the term (and one his base understands intuitively). All for upholding “The Law” as far as it applies to bashing non-whites (figuratively or literally, same difference) to remind them of their “place” in America: with occasional equal-opportunity bashing of any “leftist” agitation whenever it gets too public.

Ethics in government, though? Meh. Victimless crimes, just hardball politics, witch-hunt hysteria, etc. etc…..

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:52:17pm

One of them fire hose of insanity days, isn’t it. Oh well, at least it’s Friday.

Giphy

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The Major  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:55:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:55:12pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:55:20pm

Ooh, the yam foundation.

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Archangelus  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:55:22pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:56:51pm
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lawhawk  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:57:03pm

Trump’s still going to TV for his advice, and Derschowitz is auditioning for the role of lead attorney for Trump for months now…

Next step is for Trump to officially ask.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:57:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 5:58:39pm
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freetoken  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:01:14pm

re: #330 Stanley Sea

To which, I will remind y’all, that WWE/McMahon paid $5 million, or possibly $6 million, over the years.

All for a few appearances by Trump in a couple of stories, one was the big Wrestlemania angle many years ago, the other the buy-out story a few years.

If WWE did that, how many of Trump’s other connections also did likewise, giving Trump’s “foundation” millions of dollars for token uses of his appearances, name, or connections?

And the pont is, the “foundation” does things like buy paintings of Trump. Perhaps it does some good work here or there, but I’ve not seen anyone report on that.

The important thing to remember is that Trump’s connections are not necessarily to who we all think as the bad guys. Rupert Murdoch simply makes money off of Trump. Trump’s friends include the inner circle of Comcast/NBCU, various real estate moguls, etc.

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:01:40pm
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Archangelus  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:01:46pm
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Belafon  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:02:05pm

re: #334 Backwoods_Sleuth

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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:02:07pm

Rachel cracking me up talking about the whole show they had planned.
“Things happen”

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:02:52pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:02:59pm

re: #336 freetoken

To which, I will remind y’all, that WWE/McMahon paid $5 million, or possibly $6 million, over the years.

All for a few appearances by Trump in a couple of stories, one was the big Wrestlemania angle many years ago, the other the buy-out story a few years.

If WWE did that, how many of Trump’s other connections also did likewise, giving Trump millions of dollars for token uses of his appearances, name, or connections?

And the pont is, the “foundation” doesn things like buy paintings of Trump. Perhaps it does some good work here or there, but I’ve not seen anyone report on that.

The important thing to remember is that Trump’s connections are not necessarily to who we all think as the bad guys. Rupert Murdoch simply makes money off of Trump. Trump’s friends include the inner circle of Comcast/NBCU, various real estate moguls, etc.

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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:04:47pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:05:57pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:07:54pm

Man, I was really enjoying not checking Twitter and LGF this weekend. And now it seems news cycles last about 20 minutes before the next shitshow comes down the pike. Election Day can’t come soon enough.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:08:14pm
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Belafon  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:08:34pm

Firing Mueller alone will no longer stop it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:09:31pm
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freetoken  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:09:33pm

re: #342 Stanley Sea

This gets back to the forced outrage over the Clinton Foundation. Wingnuts went wild with claims about the illegalities, though if one looks at what the Clinton Foundation actually does, it is the usual good works one expects of non-profits.

Meanwhile, Trump’s “foundation” is so sketchy that he keeps saying he’s going to dissolve it:

en.wikipedia.org

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:10:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:11:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:14:07pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:14:16pm

Retweeted by George Conway, aka Kellyanne’s husband.

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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:15:52pm

He and 2 of his aliases probably told her this. SMH

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makeitstop  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:16:49pm

re: #355 JordanRules

He and 2 of his aliases probably told her this. SMH

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I’m hoping for a certain result, but I won’t say it out loud.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:19:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:19:45pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:20:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:21:04pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:21:15pm

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is a definite possibility. DT would think along those lines.

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lawhawk  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:22:08pm

I swear that the media needs to put every Trump presser/statement on time delay to give them a chance to fact check it - and to lead with:

Trump lies about X.

Because that’s what he does all the time. He lies about everything, no matter how trivial or consequential. It’s time the media stops regurgitating what he says verbatim and instead lead with the real news: he’s lying again and again, and here’s what he lied about.

That’s how you cover Trump. You don’t report Trump statement X, and then wait until hours later to fact-check his baffling BS.

And that goes for the Sanders pressers too. They’re lie-fests and the WH press corps needs to start treating her as a liar and tearing her a new one every single day.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:22:18pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:24:06pm

re: #351 teleskiguy

Oh that kid is soooo grounded for a month or more…

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freetoken  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:24:26pm

re: #355 JordanRules

Trump is angrier than he has been at any point in the many fuming news cycles, according to two people close to him. What that ultimately translates to is unclear.

I regret to inform you that “unclear” is an anagram for “nuclear”.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:25:24pm

re: #351 teleskiguy

re: #364 Unshaken Defiance

That kid would not see the light of day for the rest of his natural life.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:26:00pm
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Belafon  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:26:23pm

re: #364 Unshaken Defiance

Oh that kid is soooo grounded for a month or more…

If one of your kids did that, what would you do?

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:27:08pm

re: #368 Belafon

See my #366

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:27:19pm

re: #359 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“Aggressive and sex-crazed,” like fundy college boys, since they refuse to masturbate on the grounds that it is gay.
Liberty U. will soon resemble the zombie apocalypse if this catches on.

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:27:31pm

re: #368 Belafon

If one of your kids did that, what would you do?

Giphy

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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:27:38pm

re: #366 PhillyPretzel

That kid would not see the light of day for the rest of his natural life.

If I were his Mom I would encourage a comedy writing career!

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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:28:33pm

re: #368 Belafon

If one of your kids did that, what would you do?

I would legit LMAO.

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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:30:01pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:30:53pm

Remember when Birchers accused Democrats of being in cahoots with the Russians? Seems almost quaint now.

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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:32:33pm
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MsJ  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:33:02pm

re: #359 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Pandas are sex crazed? They get laid once during their cycle and it lasts about 7 seconds.

Imagine what an animal Ticket is. Probably lasts 5 seconds once a year.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:33:04pm
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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:33:35pm

I wonder how Zuckerberg is prepping for his lil Congressional visit tomorrow?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:34:34pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:34:58pm

re: #379 JordanRules

I wonder how Zuckerberg is prepping for his lil Congressional visit tomorrow?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:35:21pm

in completely different news:

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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:36:25pm

re: #381 teleskiguy

Greetings fellow human being people!

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:36:57pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:37:48pm

I have an official FBI Guide to Subversive Organizations booklet from 1952. Besides known fronts, like the World Peace Council and the Communist Party (duh), it lists various artists’ groups, local civil liberties orgs (though not the ACLU itself), “negro” activists, various unions, and many others.
Today it would start with Fox News and work its way through the NRA, the Republican Party, the Birch Society, and a whole zoo of evangelical gun cults.

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:37:49pm

LOL

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:38:06pm

re: #382 Backwoods_Sleuth

in completely different news:

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:39:38pm

Wingnuts sniping at each other on Twitter is my jam.

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:39:39pm

For the first time in years I’ve been flipping over to Fox News a lot tonight. There’s an amazing amount of avoidance (Tucker Carlson) and fancy dancing/fingerpointing at the other side (Hannity) going on over there.

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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:39:39pm

this level of genius makes my head hurt

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:40:59pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:41:54pm
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jaunte  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:42:03pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:43:35pm

re: #374 JordanRules

Kyle Griffin ✔
@kylegriffin1
According to court documents reviewed by The Daily Beast, one of Paul Manafort’s former employees led an FBI agent to a storage locker filled with paperwork on Manafort’s businesses and finances.

9:20 PM - Apr 9, 2018

Oops. That was not supposed to happen!

Manafort: Quick call Mueller, I wanna make a deal now!

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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:43:43pm

re: #385 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I have an official FBI Guide to Subversive Organizations booklet from 1952. Besides known fronts, like the World Peace Council and the Communist Party (duh), it lists various artists’ groups, local civil liberties orgs (though not the ACLU itself), “negro” activists, various unions, and many others.
Today it would start with Fox News and work its way through the NRA, the Republican Party, the Birch Society, and a whole zoo of evangelical gun cults.

Would it though? I feel like BLM, SPLC (still, after all these years), orgs to help Dreamers, immigrants, Native folks, Climate Change orgs etc might still populate that list.
The FBI is still the FBI, actual threat to the nation not withstanding. They are and should be all in on that but I’m not sold on them having vanquished all their demons.

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makeitstop  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:44:43pm

re: #393 jaunte

Gorka just now on Lou Dobbs’ show: “Mueller has to be dealt with.”

Take a seat, Mr. Gorka. Mr. Mueller will be with you soon enough.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:46:26pm

re: #393 jaunte

Nah, crooks were smarter in those days, before the Trumpen Idiocracy. Not smart enough, but still smarter.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:46:42pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:46:45pm

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

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David is a gift. He shows incredible insight.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:47:15pm
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Belafon  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:47:23pm

From Clarence Thomas’s wife Ginny:

Ginni Thomas, the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, is sharing on her Facebook page a series of posts critical of the survivors of the Parkland, Fla., school shooting, who have become vocal advocates for gun control.

Thomas shared a post Monday that included a pile of shoes from people killed during the Holocaust. The post was directed at students who walked out their classrooms last month to protest gun violence.

“To all the kids that walked out of school to protest guns. These are the shoes of Jews that gave up their firearms to Hitler. They were led into gas chambers, murdered and buried in mass graves. Pick up a history book and you’ll realize what happens when u give up freedoms and why we have them,” the post said.
Another post Thomas shared specifically went after Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School student David Hogg. Along with the post, Thomas wrote: “So, just wondering, who got the permits and paid for buses for this YOUTH march?”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:47:39pm

Help Lou out with his scientific poll, I did (64/36 No)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:48:07pm
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jaunte  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:48:16pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:49:45pm

re: #400 Charles Johnson

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:49:48pm

Oh, I fuckin’ forgot that Trump Tower caught fire this weekend.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:50:16pm
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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:53:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:53:39pm
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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:53:51pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:53:51pm

re: #401 Belafon

From Clarence Thomas’s wife Ginny
Ginni Thomas, the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, is sharing on her Facebook page a series of posts critical of the survivors of the Parkland, Fla., school shooting, who have become vocal advocates for gun control.

Thomas shared a post Monday that included a pile of shoes from people killed during the Holocaust. The post was directed at students who walked out their classrooms last month to protest gun violence.

“To all the kids that walked out of school to protest guns. These are the shoes of Jews that gave up their firearms to Hitler. They were led into gas chambers, murdered and buried in mass graves. Pick up a history book and you’ll realize what happens when u give up freedoms and why we have them,” the post said.
Another post Thomas shared specifically went after Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School student David Hogg. Along with the post, Thomas wrote: “So, just wondering, who got the permits and paid for buses for this YOUTH march?”:

It’s a testament to ammosexual duplicity and ignorance that this trope still rears its ignorant head. The French military had millions of rifles and machine guns, masses of artillery, more and better tanks than the Nazis did, hundreds of aircraft, a mighty navy, and the strongest fortifications in the world. They held out 6 weeks and 2 million of them were led away into captivity and slave labor.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:54:44pm

re: #304 gocart mozart

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jaunte  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:55:18pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:55:20pm

re: #411 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

It’s a testament to ammosexual duplicity and ignorance that this trope still rears its ignorant head. The French military had millions of rifles and machine guns, masses of artillery, more and better tanks than the Nazis did, hundreds of aircraft, a mighty navy, and the strongest fortifications in the world. They held out 6 weeks and 2 million of them were led away into captivity and slave labor.

I’m so sick of this bullshit. Oh and Mrs. Thomas, they don’t allow guns In your husband’s courtroom.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:56:37pm

re: #413 Joe Bacon 🌹

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See Mike there’s a thing called a warrant and not everything between client and counsel is privileged information. I know you’re a stupid moron tho.

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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:57:11pm

re: #411 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I really wish Ginni would just stay in the sunken place with her husband and STFU.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:57:20pm

re: #412 teleskiguy

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Projecting hypocrisy. Conservatives since we’ll forever.

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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:59:17pm

re: #414 jaunte

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:59:19pm
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jaunte  Apr 9, 2018 • 6:59:38pm

If you ever need Tucker’s “pandaface”

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Belafon  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:01:05pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:01:29pm
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Varek Raith  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:01:36pm

re: #421 jaunte

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If you ever need Tucker’s “pandaface”

The fuck…

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Varek Raith  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:02:33pm

Sex crazed pandas?
Oookay….

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HappyWarrior  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:02:45pm

Every day he shows he’s unfit for any office.

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Belafon  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:03:09pm

re: #414 jaunte

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:03:29pm

re: #425 Varek Raith

Sex crazed pandas?
Oookay….

Look, man, ANYTHING to distract from reality until they’ve come up with a plausible lie to sell the rubes to keep them believing for another day (and another $1M).

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:04:18pm

re: #118 freetoken

Trump will not go down without a fight. His ego cannot allow him to be ultimately humiliated.

That’s fine. Just hope he brings down the entire GOP with him.

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Varek Raith  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:04:30pm

It’s only Monday, FFS.

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JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:04:55pm

Tucker needs to leave the pandas alone. Weirdo.

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BlueGrl21  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:05:41pm

re: #373 JordanRules

I would legit LMAO.

That WILL be my youngest son in about 6 years.

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:06:12pm

re: #425 Varek Raith

Sex crazed pandas?
Oookay….

Who do you think is writing this timeline? David Lynch or David Cronenberg? Perversely, I’m thinking John Waters.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:06:21pm

re: #410 JordanRules

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And Trump will be fine with that. Trump is only loyal to Trump. Cohen must be a self masochist.

435
b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:06:28pm

re: #431 JordanRules

Tucker needs to leave the pandas alone. Weirdo.

lol

THOSE SEX CRAZED PANDAS JUST CAN’T GET THEMSELVES ENOUGH OF THE TUCK!

436
Kragar  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:07:09pm
437
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:07:44pm

Only marginally off-topic: A friend of mine linked the following article on Facebook. Despite the title, read the article. You’ll find that all is not well in Wingnuttia. Some people are starting to push back against the idea that Progressives are The Evil. If the implosion of Donald J. Trump manages to succeed in breaking the unholy alliance of Church and State that is the Republican-Nutjob Christian base, then as bad as his Presidency has been for America, I might almost believe it is worth it.

relevantmagazine.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:07:58pm
439
Charles Johnson  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:08:46pm
440
Patricia Kayden  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:09:14pm

re: #419 JordanRules

Who cares about Trump’s “red line”? He’s a crook. He has no business being in the White House in any capacity.

441
Belafon  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:09:19pm

re: #429 Patricia Kayden

That’s fine. Just hope he brings down the entire GOP with him.

The more he fights, the worse it will be for them.

442
jaunte  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:09:20pm
443
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:09:44pm

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

444
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:09:45pm

re: #439 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

The bombing will begin in fifteen minutes.

Only for real this time.

445
ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:09:54pm

re: #437 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Only marginally off-topic: A friend of mine linked the following article on Facebook. Despite the title, read the article. You’ll find that all is not well in Wingnuttia. Some people are starting to push back against the idea that Progressives are The Evil. If the implosion of Donald J. Trump manages to succeed in breaking the unholy alliance of Church and State that is the Republican-Nutjob Christian base, then as bad as his Presidency has been for America, I might almost believe it is worth it.

relevantmagazine.com

Shhh. Keep that sort of thing on the downlow. If you know what I mean. : )

446
makeitstop  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:11:19pm

re: #433 teleskiguy

Who do you think is writing this timeline? David Lynch or David Cronenberg? Perversely, I’m thinking John Waters.

When do we get to the big dance number?

447
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:12:46pm
448
Belafon  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:14:00pm

re: #437 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Only marginally off-topic: A friend of mine linked the following article on Facebook. Despite the title, read the article. You’ll find that all is not well in Wingnuttia. Some people are starting to push back against the idea that Progressives are The Evil. If the implosion of Donald J. Trump manages to succeed in breaking the unholy alliance of Church and State that is the Republican-Nutjob Christian base, then as bad as his Presidency has been for America, I might almost believe it is worth it.

relevantmagazine.com

Interesting. Obvious in the replies that not a one of the ones who commented could handle being near an atheist, and us giving to the poor would blow their minds.

449
Belafon  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:15:21pm

re: #447 Backwoods_Sleuth

There are great people out in the world:

450
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:15:23pm

re: #448 Belafon

Interesting. Obvious in the replies that not a one of the ones who commented could handle being near an atheist, and us giving to the poor would blow their minds.

As you can imagine, I didn’t read the comments. I know the process is only just beginning, and it will be painful.

451
gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:15:37pm
452
Stanley Sea  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:16:07pm

re: #367 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

The rug makes it.

I’m 50 behind, so you get a second one free!

Prob been posted, I apologize.

Dersh is out.

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teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:16:14pm

re: #446 makeitstop

When do we get to the big dance number?

I certainly hope when Fuckface Von Clownstick is frogmarched out of the White House.

454
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:17:12pm
455
Mattand  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:17:34pm

re: #448 Belafon

Interesting. Obvious in the replies that not a one of the ones who commented could handle being near an atheist, and us giving to the poor would blow their minds.

Yeah, I’m all for wingnut-on-wingut violence, but the author didn’t exactly push back on the notion atheists can’t be good Americans.

456
Belafon  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:17:40pm

re: #450 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

As you can imagine, I didn’t read the comments. I know the process is only just beginning, and it will be painful.

I agree. There weren’t many, but I have seen those thought processes before. They’re entering the both-sides stage.

457
makeitstop  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:17:50pm

re: #453 teleskiguy

I certainly hope when Fuckface Von Clownstick is frogmarched out of the White House.

I have a dance all saved up for that day.

458
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:17:54pm
459
Belafon  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:19:27pm

re: #458 Backwoods_Sleuth

If John Bolton was a cat.

460
Eventual Carrion  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:19:32pm

re: #401 Belafon

From Clarence Thomas’s wife Ginny:

Oh Ginny, eat shit.

461
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:20:12pm
462
ObserverArt  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:20:33pm

Has any Republican Congressperson said anything at all about today’s unholy “raid” on Cohen’s office, etc? I have not heard or seen anything. Anyone?

As outrageous as this is being made out to be by Fox News and some other wingnuts, you’d think a Cruz, Rubio, King, Jordan, Grassley….anyone…would be saying this is out of line, illegal, unethical???

Hmmm. Maybe not so out of line after all. Maybe those Republicans know this is a sea change, especially when they see Trump’s comments once he heard and was asked if he wanted to fire Mueller.

They may cater to Trump’s base, but now they are up against real law and the Constitution. They are looking at their futures.

I’m thinking they are quiet because they are all in various pow-wows in DC figuring out what to do now.

463
freetoken  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:22:02pm

re: #455 Mattand

Yeah, all for wingnut-on-wingut violence, but the author didn’t exactly push back on the notion atheists can’t be good Americans.

People don’t like losers.

A fact Trump used to manipulate his crowds.

However, as it becomes more clear that Trump may in the end be the biggest loser of all, the hate-right will have to make a choice of whether to stay with their loser or not.

I expect some to stay, but some will jump on the next “winner” bandwagon to come by.

464
Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:22:13pm

re: #433 teleskiguy

Who do you think is writing this timeline? David Lynch or David Cronenberg? Perversely, I’m thinking John Waters.

All three of them!

465
JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:23:43pm

re: #457 makeitstop

I have a dance all saved up for that day.

My only question is when l should start the warm ups. I don’t want to pull anything while I’m shaking my ass!

466
Stanley Sea  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:24:19pm

re: #393 jaunte

[Embedded content]

This is so incredibly Good German shit. Or I want in to the ss!

467
Interesting Times  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:24:19pm

Oh hey, here’s a handy tweet to keep around if you ever have a mealtime mishap and need to induce vomiting:

468
makeitstop  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:27:51pm
469
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:27:54pm
470
Belafon  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:28:44pm

It really does feel like were getting closer to a double event:

Pacific Rim - Clip: Newton’s Great Idea (HD)

All we really need now is for someone to connect to Trump’s mind.

471
dangerman  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:33:28pm

re: #446 makeitstop

When do we get to the big dance number?

Busby Berkeley style?

472
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:33:53pm
473
Unshaken Defiance  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:34:13pm

re: #368 Belafon

If one of your kids did that, what would you do?

Well if it were my foster daughter, it would have been a compliment that suited her sense of humor and no disrespect meant. So applause… Coming from a son? Hmmm.

474
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:35:02pm
475
Stanley Sea  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:36:16pm

re: #415 HappyWarrior

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

476
gwangung  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:37:05pm

re: #462 ObserverArt

Has any Republican Congressperson said anything at all about today’s unholy “raid” on Cohen’s office, etc? I have not heard or seen anything. Anyone?

As outrageous as this is being made out to be by Fox News and some other wingnuts, you’d think a Cruz, Rubio, King, Jordan, Grassley….anyone…would be saying this is out of line, illegal, unethical???

Hmmm. Maybe not so out of line after all. Maybe those Republicans know this is a sea change, especially when they see Trump’s comments once he heard and was asked if he wanted to fire Mueller.

They may cater to Trump’s base, but now they are up against real law and the Constitution. They are looking at their futures.

I’m thinking they are quiet because they are all in various pow-wows in DC figuring out what to do now.

Or….they’ve ridden Trump as far as they can to get their agenda, and they’re all hopping off so they don’t get trampled in the collapse.

477
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:37:31pm
478
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:41:19pm
479
The Vicious Babushka  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:43:04pm

re: #164 petesh

Just a thought: If we throw Trump into the pond, will he sink or float? That would tell us if he were a witch, right?

Fat people float even if they are not witches.

480
JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:44:39pm

re: #473 Unshaken Defiance

Well if it were my foster daughter, it would have been a compliment that suited her sense of humor and no disrespect meant. So applause… Coming from a son? Hmmm.

I have no spawn but in my response I was assuming I raised a fierce feminist son with a wicked sense of humor. In my imaginary scenario we also have inside jokes about the cougar trope and he has a great grasp on gender and power dynamics.

481
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:44:57pm
482
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:48:24pm
483
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:50:19pm
484
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:51:12pm

re: #402 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Help Lou out with his scientific poll, I did (64/36 No)

[Embedded content]

re: #461 Backwoods_Sleuth

Heh
it’s at 66%/34% No now

485
Stanley Sea  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:51:36pm

re: #444 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The bombing will begin in fifteen minutes.

Only for real this time.

Long night.

486
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:51:47pm
487
Kragar  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:54:02pm
488
Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:55:17pm

re: #477 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Grandma knew how to make chocolate spaghetti that she served with marshmallow sauce, sprinkled toasted coconut and topped with a couple maraschino cherries. If I had only gotten her recipe written down!

489
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:56:36pm
490
Unshaken Defiance  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:57:01pm

I am suddenly in an absolutely wonderful mood.

FBI Raid Ignites Trumps Rage
It was a photo-op meant to portray President Donald Trump at his most commanding: Flanked by senior military leaders, Trump was there to plot America’s response to a suspected chemical gas attack in Syria.
Instead, his boiling display in the White House Cabinet Room on Monday evening only served to underscore the President’s most visible weakness: his ambient rage over Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation.

A toast to all who keep pushing Trumps buttons and driving him insane in his own vitriol

491
Sea Mexican!  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:57:07pm

After the weekend news about the UPR, the UPR retirement system responded (Google Translate). One of the most shocking numbers I see is that, 3/4 of the UPR workforce can retire soon. Combined with the hiring freeze that the university has self inflicted in the last 8 to 10 years, the effects can be devastating.

492
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:57:51pm

re: #402 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Help Lou out with his scientific poll, I did (64/36 No)

[Embedded content]

re: #461 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #484 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Heh
it’s at 66%/34% No now

Make that 68%/32% No

493
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:58:49pm
494
JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:58:55pm

re: #489 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

LMAO!!

495
Belafon  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:58:56pm

re: #492 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Make that 68%/32% No

I’m surprised the tweet is still up.

496
Sea Mexican!  Apr 9, 2018 • 7:59:35pm

re: #478 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Th plot thickets.

(Seriously, take it easy with the thickener. It’s so very thick, you can barely move the spoon.)

497
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 8:00:21pm

re: #489 Backwoods_Sleuth

Tucker Carlson: “Little did we suspect that the panda was sexually assaulting the snowman”

498
Stanley Sea  Apr 9, 2018 • 8:00:32pm

re: #452 Stanley Sea

I’m more like 100 behind!

Remember the joy of SanFranZionist & give me a break.

NFLrRIZRoWWn3JOfUjHUr1Yu3Q+k1gy0Znpg9jip+4yrB5xQ9g0cs132m2FUGGG/lbimgNbxnfj2UXBMFmytRUm1zeWw/kqPvsiSDcuklze9Q/s1MHpqQqSGBSAO1PTJw9l9tkk966nWp2Q223aYwihq4DLEE/9WiFV/C6KmzJba8REzyu6wBgJNzco8aI78CZpiccMs9spf0jADMxc45A==

499
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 8:01:22pm
500
calochortus  Apr 9, 2018 • 8:01:35pm

re: #488 Joe Bacon 🌹

Grandma knew how to make chocolate spaghetti that she served with marshmallow sauce, sprinkled toasted coconut and topped with a couple maraschino cherries. If I had only gotten her recipe written down!

Google knows everything. A search revealed several chocolate pasta recipes, generally similar to this one
You could do your own variation.

501
jaunte  Apr 9, 2018 • 8:03:33pm
502
Stanley Sea  Apr 9, 2018 • 8:04:19pm

re: #462 ObserverArt

Has any Republican Congressperson said anything at all about today’s unholy “raid” on Cohen’s office, etc? I have not heard or seen anything. Anyone?

As outrageous as this is being made out to be by Fox News and some other wingnuts, you’d think a Cruz, Rubio, King, Jordan, Grassley….anyone…would be saying this is out of line, illegal, unethical???

Hmmm. Maybe not so out of line after all. Maybe those Republicans know this is a sea change, especially when they see Trump’s comments once he heard and was asked if he wanted to fire Mueller.

They may cater to Trump’s base, but now they are up against real law and the Constitution. They are looking at their futures.

I’m thinking they are quiet because they are all in various pow-wows in DC figuring out what to do now.

Nothing. Complicit & they will pay the price.

503
Kilroy was here  Apr 9, 2018 • 8:04:54pm

504
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 9, 2018 • 8:06:26pm
505
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 9, 2018 • 8:09:29pm
506
Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 9, 2018 • 8:09:31pm

re: #497 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Tucker Carlson: “Little did we suspect that the panda was sexually assaulting the snowman”

That Panda just needed a little…

Marvin Gaye - Sexual Healing

507
gocart mozart  Apr 9, 2018 • 8:17:26pm
508
teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2018 • 8:18:16pm

re: #498 Stanley Sea

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

509
whitebeach  Apr 9, 2018 • 8:18:18pm

re: #470 Belafon

All we really need now is for someone to connect to Trump’s mind.

I tried. I got an error 404 message.

510
Kragar  Apr 9, 2018 • 8:20:47pm

re: #506 Joe Bacon 🌹

Which reminds me about this…

Marvin Gaye - I Heard Throught the Grapevine (Acapella HQ)

dailymotion.com

They isolated his vocal track so its just him

511
JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 8:21:33pm

re: #510 Kragar

Which reminds me about this…

Marvin Gaye - I Heard Throught the Grapevine (Acapella HQ)

dailymotion.com

They isolated his vocal track so its just him

So damn good!

512
Single-handed sailor  Apr 9, 2018 • 8:23:47pm

re: #509 whitebeach

I tried. I got an error 404 message.

I keep getting ‘Error 418 - I’m a teapot’

513
JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 8:24:57pm

Sometimes on really stormy days like this, certain pieces of info that rain down on us need to be isolated and repeated for effect.

This party should be relegated to the dustbin of history!

514
A Cranky One  Apr 9, 2018 • 8:28:42pm

re: #512 Single-handed sailor

I keep getting ‘Error 418 - I’m a teapot’

Upding for the HTCPCP protocol reference.

515
JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 8:34:33pm
516
Belafon  Apr 9, 2018 • 8:40:04pm

And we all have to remember, Mueller is our Manhattan project, a big massive undertaking, that might bring Trump down, but we have to be prepared for other possibilities. We also have to be cognizant that there’s going to be a long period afterward that’s going to require our attention.

517
JordanRules  Apr 9, 2018 • 8:41:21pm

Where has Rudy G been? Other than the divorce filing, I haven’t heard much about or from him. He’s kept a surprisingly really low profile for a bit now. Hmmm

518
Unshaken Defiance  Apr 9, 2018 • 8:42:57pm

re: #516 Belafon

And we all have to remember, Mueller is our Manhattan project, a big massive undertaking, that might bring Trump down, but we have to be prepared for other possibilities. We also have to be cognizant that there’s going to be a long period afterward that’s going to require our attention.

The lesson here is never look away.

519
Stanley Sea  Apr 9, 2018 • 8:47:45pm

I bought a chunk of smoked turkey from the grocer. Planning my salad of tarragon, grapes, walnut & mayo.

But tonight was a fuck, eat now, fast.

Turkey cubed, mayo, DIJON, s & p.

de lish.

520
austin_blue  Apr 9, 2018 • 8:58:25pm

Hi all. Back from a three week sojourn to the UK. Great trip to visit family and then up to Scotland for the Edinburgh Harp Festival plus a couple of days in Glasgow.

The weather was just shit. On Wednesday in Edinburgh we had two inches of slush and two inches of snow covering it because it was falling faster than it was melting. No footwear can handle it, except for Wellies, which we didn’t bring.

Saw Chris Stout and Catriona McKay that night doing their new album “Bare Knuckle” live.

Find it. Buy it. They have deconstructed Scottish Trad music and built it into something unique and truly exciting. Fierce stuff.

I didn’t think that there could be a more hated politician than tRump, but Theresa May is right up there in the UK. And Boris Johnson is more loathed than May.

521
teleskiguy  Apr 9, 2018 • 9:04:04pm

re: #520 austin_blue

DUDE! I was wondering. You’re lucky. You took three weeks off from the internet meat grinder. I just took *3 days* off and am back as of today. You lucky fuck!

Glad to see your dreck here again! Welcome back!

Giphy


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Roseanne Barr Is Tweeting About QAnon, a New Pizzagate-Style Conspiracy Theory Barr's been full metal Trump-loving wingnut in a social liberal suit for a long long time. This is why I would never watch her show, and why I won't be spending money with advertisers on her show once someone ...
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