FBI Raid Seeks Records of Payments to Porn Star and Ex-Playmate

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Here’s the latest on those FBI raids of Trump lawyer Michael Cohen’s home and office: they’re looking for records of hush-money payments to women who had affairs with our so-called president.

Washington (CNN)The FBI raid on President Donald Trump’s personal attorney Michael Cohen sought information that included payments allegedly made to keep women silent about affairs with Trump more than a decade ago.

A source familiar with the matter told CNN Tuesday that a focus of Monday’s raid was to seek records on the deal set up between ex-Playboy Playmate Karen McDougal and a company that reportedly paid her amid the 2016 presidential campaign cycle to keep her account from publication.

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KGxvi  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:29:41pm

My gut tells me that there’s more to this than “the president had some affairs before he got into office.” This was apparently run through the financial crimes division of the FBI in NYC. I’m guessing the guys and gals in that unit aren’t much the types that fuck around.

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:35:24pm
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Sea Mexican!  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:36:17pm

There’s got to be more to the story …

Unless those payments came from less than legal places, and the raid confirms the link …

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:36:47pm

We’re almost at parity between number of people who’ve resigned/been fired and the size of Trump’s Inauguration crowd.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:37:43pm

Trump Allies Fear What Comes Next

“HE’S SITTING THERE BITCHING AND MOANING”: INSIDE TRUMPWORLD, ALLIES FEAR THE BOSS COULD GO POSTAL AND FIRE MUELLER

Trump’s friends say the president is “dry tinder” awaiting a match. Meanwhile, his latest hires are already creating new management nightmares for John Kelly.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:38:40pm

I could not care less about what consenting adults did in their spare time, but if the payments made were illegal in nature, then it is time to air all the details.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:39:08pm

good fucking grief.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:40:28pm

LOLWUT???

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austin_blue  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:41:31pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief.

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Not exactly forthcoming, is he?

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:41:40pm

re: #6 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I could not care less about what consenting adults did in their spare time, but if the payments made were illegal in nature, then it is time to air all the details.

If the payments were a bribe, circumvented campaign finance laws, broke financial reporting laws, perpetrated a fraud on the courts, etc., then those rise to the level requiring investigations.

The fact Trump apparently bedded an adult film star isn’t the important detail. It’s what Cohen and Trump said and did re: payment of $130,000 to her that matters.

The lies and the coverup will get Trump and Cohen in the end.

And once the investigators dig into the Daniels’ payment shenanigans they’ll uncover other criminal acts too, because that’s the way both Trump and Cohen roll.

Why do anything if you can overdo it. /trump motto.

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KGxvi  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:42:01pm

re: #5 Dr. Matt

Trump Allies Fear What Comes Next

Can we get someone into the Oval Office to tell him, “C’mon Donny, just fucking do it, you fucking coward.”?

Maybe Schumer? Or Pelosi?

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:42:23pm

This thread needs this tweet:

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Kragar  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:43:10pm

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLWUT???

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“I keep getting asked to provide more of my personal data every time I log in.”
“What app is requesting it?”
“Facebook. Where is my money?”

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:43:24pm

re: #1 KGxvi

My gut tells me that there’s more to this than “the president had some affairs before he got into office.” This was apparently run through the financial crimes division of the FBI in NYC. I’m guessing the guys and gals in that unit aren’t much the types that fuck around.

Exactly. Geoffrey Berman, the US Attorney who signed off on these warrants was Giuliani’s law partner, donated the maximum personal amount to both Trump’s primary & general election campaigns and was appointed directly by Trump. The only reason a guy like that green-lights something like this is because there’s so much overwhelming evidence backing it up that to choose not to would eventually lead to criminal corruption / obstruction charges against him.

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mmmirele  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:43:27pm

I’m in Atlanta, waiting for my next flight to Louisville. I paid a premium for first class seats but it’s worth it for the feeling of not being stuffed in a middle seat in coach.

I don’t know why, but I have got this uneasy feeling Trump is going to do something colossally stupid while I’m traveling. I hope to help I’m wrong.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:43:55pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

Exactly. Geoffrey Berman, the US Attorney who signed off on these warrants was Giuliani’s law partner, donated the maximum personal amount to both Trump’s primary & general election campaigns and was appointed directly by Trump. The only reason a guy like that green-lights something like this is because there’s so much overwhelming evidence backing it up that to choose not to would eventually lead to criminal corruption / obstruction charges against him.

Except he didn’t. He recused himself.

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:44:59pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

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KGxvi  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:45:08pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

Exactly. Geoffrey Berman, the US Attorney who signed off on these warrants was Giuliani’s law partner, donated the maximum personal amount to both Trump’s primary & general election campaigns and was appointed directly by Trump. The only reason a guy like that green-lights something like this is because there’s so much overwhelming evidence backing it up that to choose not to would eventually lead to criminal corruption / obstruction charges against him.

Berman was apparently recused from this investigation, and it was apparently Rosenstien who signed off on the warrant petition going to a judge. At least that’s what I’ve heard on CNN while driving around. But otherwise, yeah, I completely agree.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:45:22pm

re: #16 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Except he didn’t. He recused himself.

Did not know that. As we’ve seen with Sessions however Trump doesn’t distinguish between recusal and overt betrayal.

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KGxvi  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:46:23pm

re: #12 Belafon

I can’t believe I’m watching a drama involving a porn star and what I care about most is the plot.

HBO/Showtime/FX really missed an opportunity that none of us even knew existed.

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gwangung  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:46:46pm

re: #18 KGxvi

Berman was apparently recused from this investigation, and it was apparently Rosenstien who signed off on the warrant petition going to a judge. At least that’s what I’ve heard on CNN while driving around. But otherwise, yeah, I completely agree.

Hm, but Rosenstein still appointed by the current administration, right?

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mmmirele  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:46:49pm

re: #15 mmmirele

And I just turned to Twitter to see Sarah Huckabee Sanders is saying Trump believes he has the right to fire Mueller. Hate to tell the Cheeto this, but Mueller isn’t the Southern District of New York.

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:47:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:47:55pm

Her question involves Palantir.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:48:17pm

re: #482 KGxvi

I’m beginning to think that anyone who holds office above the local level should be required to put their assets into blind trusts similar to what, historically, US presidents have done.

I am willing to make an exception for family businesses, so long as those businesses don’t do work with the state/federal government (exception: POTUS)

Local politicians around the country are infamous for being caught in graft and corruption scandals.

Say for the sake of argument I own a grocery store in town. Someone else in town (or from outside it) applies for a building permit and zoning regulation change to put up another grocery store which would compete with mine.

In my town, two village trustees have to approve a building permit, and three a zoning use change. The permit is not a vote (the two trustees either sign it or reject it), the zoning change requires first a public hearing then a public vote. If I can convince two other trustees to vote “nay,” the zoning change goes down in defeat.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:49:12pm

I see the raid included Cohen’s “taxi medallion” holdings. There’s been some shady Ukrainian mob related shenanigans related to Cohen’s partners in that business. Example:

buzzfeed.com

Can you saw money laundering?

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Kragar  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:49:13pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Her question involves Palantir.

Zuckerberg struck a deal with Sauron?

That would explain quite a bit.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:50:56pm

re: #18 KGxvi

Berman was apparently recused from this investigation, and it was apparently Rosenstien who signed off on the warrant petition going to a judge. At least that’s what I’ve heard on CNN while driving around. But otherwise, yeah, I completely agree.

Didn’t know about the recusal but wouldn’t the actual warrant petition have fallen to Berman’s Deputy US Attorney?

Yep, just looked it up.

The acting head of the office, Robert Khuzami—a Trump appointee, for those keeping score at home—signed off on the warrant

So that’s still two Trump appointees and a Federal Judge signing off on this action.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:51:35pm

re: #26 Ace-o-aces

I see the raid included Cohen’s “taxi medallion” holdings. There’s been some shady Ukrainian mob related shenanigans related to Cohen’s partners in that business. Example:

buzzfeed.com

Can you saw money laundering?

can you say in mobbed up with the NYC Russian Mafia?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:52:27pm

re: #27 Kragar

Zuckerberg struck a deal with Sauron?

That would explain quite a bit.

Yes:
Peter Thiel…

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Dr. Matt  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:52:45pm

Despite claims of an “unprecedented” number of death threats to justify his security spending, Senate Democrats have obtained internal EPA documents they say show no evidence of specific, credible, physical threats against Scott Pruitt.

Confidential security assessments in the Environmental Protection Agency show no evidence of specific, credible, physical threats against Administrator Scott Pruitt, despite claims that an “unprecedented” number of death threats justify his outsized security spending, according to a review by Senate Democrats.

Democrats on the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee wrote in a letter Tuesday that they have reviewed security assessments describing 16 purported threats against Pruitt. They include public protests, criticism of Pruitt’s policies and other activities protected by the First Amendment.

Another Trump Regime liar.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:53:41pm

re: #27 Kragar

Zuckerberg struck a deal with Sauron?

That would explain quite a bit.

Related:

babylonbee.com

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mmmirele  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:54:08pm

re: #26 Ace-o-aces

I see the raid included Cohen’s “taxi medallion” holdings. There’s been some shady Ukrainian mob related shenanigans related to Cohen’s partners in that business. Example:

buzzfeed.com

Can you saw money laundering?

Taxi medallions? It used to be they were more valuable than gold but with Uber and that crowd, they’ve sunk in value. I wonder if Cohen invested in medallions and got caught in the decline?

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:55:11pm

re: #28 goddamnedfrank

That’s some hard drugs right wingers, including Trump, have to take to claim that Mueller’s a Democratic party conspiracy theory.

Mueller on down are all GOPers or were Trump appointees. They’re all either recusing or approving the investigations into Trump. There aren’t Democrats in the chain of command because Trump’s purged them all thus far.

Wont stop Trump from claiming a witch hunt though.

Though when Mueller does nothing except get indictments and guilty pleas from Trump cronies, it does look kind odd that everyone in Trumpworld is wearing witch outfits.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:55:31pm
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:55:34pm

re: #33 mmmirele

Taxi medallions? It used to be they were more valuable than gold but with Uber and that crowd, they’ve sunk in value. I wonder if Cohen invested in medallions and got caught in the decline?

I don’t know what taxi medallions are worth now, but I recall reading that at one time, they were going for a small fortune.

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KGxvi  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:55:37pm

re: #28 goddamnedfrank

Didn’t know about the recusal but wouldn’t the actual warrant petition have fallen to Berman’s deputy US Attorney?

Yep, just looked it up.

So that’s still two Trump appointees and a Federal Judge signing off on this action.

From what I understand, and this is so far out of my wheelhouse that I am mostly talking out of my ass and based on what I’ve heard on cable news (so I repeat myself), but when it involves potential attorney-client communications it goes very high up, and since this was likely referred to the SDNY from Mueller (and/or Rosenstien), it may have been Rosenstien that gave the go ahead.

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makeitstop  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:57:18pm

re: #36 Dr Lizardo

I don’t know what taxi medallions are worth now, but I recall reading that at one time, they were going for a small fortune.

They used to go for about a million per, pre-Uber.

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Jay C  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:57:33pm

re: #31 Dr. Matt

Democrats on the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee wrote in a letter Tuesday that they have reviewed security assessments describing 16 purported threats against Pruitt. They include public protests, criticism of Pruitt’s policies and other activities protected by the First Amendment.

Well, then, there you are! I mean, once you allow criticism, aren’t death threats the inevitable next step?? We can’t let the First Amendment turn into a suicide pact now, can we??

- even if most Republicans DO view “environmentalists” as only slightly less violent and lethal than, say, ISIL, or the Khmer Rouge…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:57:36pm
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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:58:58pm

re: #40 Backwoods_Sleuth

Grassley just admits he’s reading 20 year old magazines?

Unfu…

No, totally fucking believable. Out of touch… as usual.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 12:59:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:00:32pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:02:38pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

good fucking grief.

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Mark’s “teams” are going to be real busy it appears. How many times has he offered that excuse?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:03:02pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:03:10pm

re: #37 KGxvi

From what I understand, and this is so far out of my wheelhouse that I am mostly talking out of my ass and based on what I’ve heard on cable news (so I repeat myself), but when it involves potential attorney-client communications it goes very high up, and since this was likely referred to the SDNY from Mueller (and/or Rosenstien), it may have been Rosenstien that gave the go ahead.

Agree, he took the Mueller team’s referral and decided that SDNY should be the ones to run with it. Given how sensitive this was it’s reasonable to assume he also demanded a final review of the paperwork they were filing with the Court. This warrant got put under a scanning electron microscope before it went live.

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Kragar  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:03:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:04:15pm

enough of the sleezy trump porn…time for food porn!

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austin_blue  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:06:12pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

enough of the sleezy trump porn…time for food porn!

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Those are field (i.e. black-eyed) peas, I think?

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:06:13pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Her question involves Palantir.

Yeah, that shook him. I don’t think Mark actually realizes what people have done with his “platform.”

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:06:18pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

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JordanRules  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:06:23pm

re: #48 Backwoods_Sleuth

enough of the sleezy trump porn…time for food porn!

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For lunch I had my leftover oxtail stew which on day 2 was insanely good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:08:13pm

re: #49 austin_blue

Those are field (i.e. black-eyed) peas, I think?

They are indeed
Either Del used them instead of black beans, or they call them something different in Scotland.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:09:55pm

BTW @NigelSlater has some insanely good looking food porn in his TL

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:11:35pm
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JordanRules  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:11:39pm

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

BTW @NigelSlater has some insanely good looking food porn in his TL

Love a good food porn follow!

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:13:22pm

Wow, Nicole Wallace just reported that Trump somehow thinks he really can fire Mueller. Apparently he thinks he could fire Rosenstein and put someone like Pence or even himself in as a temporary replacement and that would give them the legal rights to carry the job responsibilities one being able to fire Mueller.

This is nuts.

This would also seal his fate. I think even some Republicans would be aghast at that move.

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:13:52pm

re: #51 lawhawk

We tend to get cynical about that here at times - “It’s a company,” “if you’re not paying, you’re the product,” etc. - but I think people should be realistically able to expect that if they don’t give explicit permission to release something - and explicit doesn’t mean “you agreed on line 1237 of the 400 page legal agreement” - that companies are expected to keep the information private. Instead of expecting our current state, we should demand better.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:14:44pm

re: #56 JordanRules

Love a good food porn follow!

follow Del as well…he’s always got good stuff.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:16:45pm
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Sea Mexican!  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:17:18pm

re: #57 ObserverArt

Wow, Nicole Wallace just reported that Trump somehow thinks he really can fire Mueller. Apparently he thinks he could fire Rosenstein and put someone like Pence or even himself in as a temporary replacement and that would give them the legal rights to carry the job responsibilities one being able to fire Mueller.

This is nuts.

This would also seal his fate. I think even some Republicans would be aghast at that move.

Let’s hope so. Because my cynicism is getting too loud.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:17:46pm
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Belafon  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:18:09pm

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mark probably thought they were all idiots.

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:19:11pm

re: #41 lawhawk

Grassley just admits he’s reading 20 year old magazines?

Unfu…

No, totally fucking believable. Out of touch… as usual.

Just a little.

But you know who looks even older and out of touch? Orrin Hatch.

He had at least 144 pt type on those sheets of paper he was reading because they each contained one sentence.

Yikes.

They have these modern things called glasses you know.

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JordanRules  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:19:26pm

Eww Ted Cruz is on my tele!

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Dr. Matt  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:19:41pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sen Hatch argues FB users know or should know a “free” service always has other costs.
— Ari Melber (@AriMelber) April 10, 2018

People who use public water fountains and public bathrooms know or should know a “free” service always has other costs.

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Targetpractice  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:20:34pm

re: #65 JordanRules

Eww Ted Cruz is on my tele!

Quick, soak it in bleach!

//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:20:44pm
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JordanRules  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:21:14pm

re: #64 ObserverArt

Just a little.

But you know who looks even older and out of touch? Orrin Hatch.

He had at least 144 pt type on those sheets of paper he was reading because they each contained one sentence.

Yikes.

They ahve these modern things called glasses you know.

They have a history. LOL

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JordanRules  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:22:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:23:32pm
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austin_blue  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:23:56pm

Liverpool are knocking Man City out of the Champion’s league, and if Roma score again in the last ten minutes, they’ll knock out Barca.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:24:14pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:24:27pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Hell, imagine if Obama or his staff had said at any time that he had the power to fire Comey at any time when questioned about the Clinton investigation.

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petesh  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:24:46pm

re: #72 austin_blue

Liverpool are knocking Man City out of the Champion’s league, and if Roma score again in the last ten minutes, they’ll knock out Barca.

Roma DID!

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austin_blue  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:24:58pm

Roma just got it! Seven minutes left and if Barca don’t score, they’re done.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:25:33pm

oh good grief

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:26:55pm

“… Heon “Hank” Jong Yoo, 24, was booked into the Smith County Jail by ATF around 10:30 p.m. after making false statements while he purchased firearms, according to a U.S. Marshals Service spokesman. …”

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Targetpractice  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:26:58pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh good grief

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“FULL DEFLECTOR SHIELDS!!!”

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:27:32pm

re: #74 Targetpractice

Hell, imagine if Obama or his staff had said at any time that he had the power to fire Comey at any time when questioned about the Clinton investigation.

Obama just isn’t the President Trump is, and this just proves it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:28:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:31:42pm
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Ace-o-aces  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:33:22pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:35:51pm

re: #82 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fox News headline tonight: “Facebook Under Attack: CEO Zuckerberg Pressured By Democrats To Turn Evidence Against Conservative Groups In Exchange For Leniency.”

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austin_blue  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:36:21pm

Barca’s out!

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JordanRules  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:37:18pm

Someone needs to grill Mark about Myanmar.

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dirkdigglerjr  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:41:13pm

re: #72 austin_blue

Man City running out of gas as the season winds down. Still going to win the Premier League - but this is 3 straight losses, and Liverpool have been the better team by far in the 2 CL matches.

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Targetpractice  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:43:06pm

So, what’s the over/under on the odds that Faux tries before week’s end to spin a conspiracy that the Democrats are going after Facebook only because Hillary lost?

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petesh  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:43:08pm

re: #85 austin_blue

Barca’s out!

And, as a United fan, I”ll be cheering for … Roma, I guess?

(But I did want Liverpool to go through, in some kind of weird not-quite-as-unthinkable-as-City-anymore way.)

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JordanRules  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:44:47pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:44:55pm
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dirkdigglerjr  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:46:02pm

re: #85 austin_blue

Now that is a shocker. Giving up 3 goals at home and losing on aggregate away goals.

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Targetpractice  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:46:53pm

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

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“But dude, my principles!!!”

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petesh  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:48:25pm

re: #93 Targetpractice

“But dude, my principles!!!”

“And if you don’t like those, I have others.” — Groucho

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:49:03pm

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

I’ve also come around to the idea that we would have never learned the lessons we’re learning had we elected her.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:51:55pm

re: #95 Belafon

I’ve also come around to the idea that we would have never learned the lessons we’re learning had we elected her.

I still think the idea that we’ve “learned” anything is overly optimistic.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:52:31pm

re: #90 JordanRules

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Now we know what FAUX will be doing tonight—D&S whining for hours on end…

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Jay C  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:53:10pm

re: #95 Belafon

I’ve also come around to the idea that we would have never learned the lessons we’re learning had we elected her.

Maybe, but the “lesson” that, as Jeet puts it,

”..giving the most powerful job in the world to a bigoted mobbed up reality show star with no policy knowledge & an abusive character wasn’t a smart move.”

shouldn’t really be one that needed a particularly steep learning curve…

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Targetpractice  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:54:12pm

re: #96 goddamnedfrank

I still think the idea that we’ve “learned” anything is overly optimistic.

2000 & 2004 failed to teach the Bros that their “revolution” isn’t coming and that the GOP capitalizes readily on their “principles,” so why would 2016 do anything to change that?

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:54:32pm

re: #71 Backwoods_Sleuth

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MsJ  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:54:48pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Her question involves Palantir.

What’s Palantir? I don’t think I have heard that name before.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:58:11pm

re: #101 MsJ

What’s Palantir? I don’t think I have heard that name before.

It’s Peter Thiel’s private intelligence gathering panopticon.

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petesh  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:58:51pm

re: #101 MsJ

What’s Palantir? I don’t think I have heard that name before.

It’s a big-data-analysis company owned by Peter Thiel, who is on the Facebook board so it would be surprising if Zuck did not know much about it.

[ETA: Frank is right, also, too.]

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2018 • 1:59:52pm

re: #98 Jay C

Maybe, but the “lesson” that, as Jeet puts it,

”..giving the most powerful job in the world to a bigoted mobbed up reality show star with no policy knowledge & an abusive character wasn’t a smart move.”

shouldn’t really be one that needed a particularly steep learning curve…

Then again, neither are vaccines, but…

There are a few other lessons, but the big ones seem to be:
1. “You” can run for office.
2. Democrats need to run people everywhere.
3. People need to come out to vote.

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JordanRules  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:01:01pm

re: #95 Belafon

I’ve also come around to the idea that we would have never learned the lessons we’re learning had we elected her.

This is a tempting silver lining view to fall back on but it’s dangerous IMO.
Lots of vulnerable groups become kindling when the lessons could be learned without sacrificing them.

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:01:31pm

My experience is that sometimes people have to be slapped with a clue-by-four. Some just don’t know their history, and some aren’t paying attention until it hits them in the face.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:02:40pm

re: #101 MsJ

What’s Palantir? I don’t think I have heard that name before.

Peter Thiel’s company. It’s creepy.

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nines09  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:02:48pm
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Belafon  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:03:36pm

re: #105 JordanRules

This is a tempting silver lining view to fall back on but it’s dangerous IMO.
Lots of vulnerable groups become kindling when the lessons could be learned without sacrificing them.

I made sure everyone I knew went out and voted for Clinton. I in no way shape or form wanted Trump to win.

But, tell me this, what do you think elections would have been like this fall had Clinton won?

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:04:22pm

re: #109 Belafon

Free-ER and fair-er

Edited with ers

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:05:10pm

re: #110 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

Free and fair

You don’t live in a Republican state, do you?

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:05:43pm

re: #105 JordanRules

This is a tempting silver lining view to fall back on but it’s dangerous IMO.
Lots of vulnerable groups become kindling when the lessons could be learned without sacrificing them.

This is why I was so fucking angry at the Busters going into the 2016 election, and why I still am. It was utterly obvious going in which minority groups would suffer and who was going to be sacrificed as pawns by cynical leftists in gambit to jump start their revolution.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:05:46pm

re: #111 Belafon

Eh- PA

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JordanRules  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:08:30pm

re: #109 Belafon

I made sure everyone I knew went out and voted for Clinton. I in no way shape or form wanted Trump to win.

But, tell me this, what do you think elections would have been like this fall had Clinton won?

I definitely don’t think you wanted him to win and I get how tempting this argument is especially for generally optimistic folks like you and I but there is no way having a white supremacist admin and resurgence is good for America. People are at risk, dying, in jail and being denied their human rights right now because of it. Folks gotta find a better way to get their lessons.

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:08:36pm

re: #113 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

Eh- PA

OK. Well, here in Texas, my highly Republican district has early voting, while areas along the Mexico border have few polling places and even fewer ways to get the mandatory ID for voting. Not really free or fair.

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:10:13pm

re: #114 JordanRules

I definitely don’t think you wanted him to win and I get how tempting this argument is especially for generally optimistic folks like you and I but there is no way having a white supremacist admin and resurgence is good for America. People are at risk, dying, in jail and being denied their human rights right now because of it. Folks gotta find a better way to get their lessons.

Totally agree. I, as an optimist, have yet to find a way to make that happen.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:10:59pm

Palantir sounds like it should be a warrior class in the newest fantasy RPG.

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gwangung  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:13:27pm

re: #117 Eclectic Cyborg

Palantir sounds like it should be a warrior class in the newest fantasy RPG.

Um, it’s a Tolkien reference….all seeing orbs…..

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JordanRules  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:14:11pm

re: #116 Belafon

Totally agree. I, as an optimist, have yet to find a way to make that happen.

We could probably start with some truth and reconciliation initiatives, civic engagement initiatives and really keep going from there.

Clinton continuing Obama’s economy along with those really bold, long needed Govt initiatives couldn’t hurt either.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:14:22pm
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Belafon  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:14:41pm

I work with a whole lot of smart, conservative people. But they don’t pay much attention to things that don’t affect them. That’s why whites on the left tended to stand by while blacks were screaming about how all of this was crap. Then Trump was elected and suddenly they found out a small part of what minorities have known.

I think the only way that will change is to change the way history is taught in this country. I have thought of a better name for the subject: Political History. The thing is, every class in school is a history class, but they are history classes of their particular topics. History really is about politics. We should teach it as such.

Now, go and make it happen. :)

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EPR-radar  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:15:38pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

Peter Thiel’s company. It’s creepy.

Seriously creepy. Thiel has a god complex and the whole point of Palantir is to weaponize information for the powers that be.

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makeitstop  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:15:42pm

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It was only a matter of time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:16:11pm

hahahaha

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JordanRules  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:16:52pm

re: #112 goddamnedfrank

This is why I was so fucking angry at the Busters going into the 2016 election, and why I still am. It was utterly obvious going in which minority groups would suffer and who was going to be sacrificed as pawns by cynical leftists in gambit to jump start their revolution.

Bernie didn’t give a damn and still doesn’t. And at the beginning I really thought he was going to be a helpful left flank. Uggh.

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plansbandc  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:17:32pm

re: #75 petesh

Champions League has been very entertaining this year.

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JordanRules  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:18:37pm

re: #121 Belafon

I work with a whole lot of smart, conservative people. But they don’t pay much attention to things that don’t affect them. That’s why whites on the left tended to stand by while blacks were screaming about how all of this was crap. Then Trump was elected and suddenly they found out a small part of what minorities have known.

I think the only way that will change is to change the way history is taught in this country. I have thought of a better name for the subject: Political History. The thing is, every class in school is a history class, but they are history classes of their particular topics. History really is about politics. We should teach it as such.

Now, go and make it happen. :)

Yes! A lot of education reform needed including a lot around civics and history.

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ericblair  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:18:47pm

Murdoch’s 21st Century Fox cooperating with EU inspection. Apparently the European Commission is raiding the London HQ at 10 something PM. No other details yet. The more trouble the better for that nasty fuck.

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EPR-radar  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:20:54pm

re: #118 gwangung

Um, it’s a Tolkien reference….all seeing orbs…..

One of which has fallen into the hands of the dark lord, making the others mostly useless. Yes, the analogy works in the details, perhaps not the way its namers intended…

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Targetpractice  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:22:01pm

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I could totally see Donny thinking firing Jefferson Beauregard and putting Dershowitz in his place would make this whole mess “go away.” Alan would fire Rosenstein and then Mueller, end the Russia investigation by declaring Trump totally in the clear, and then (for an encore) announcing criminal charges against Hillary & Obama.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:22:03pm
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petesh  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:22:49pm

re: #126 plansbandc

Champions League has been very entertaining this year.

For some. See mine @89 for implied weeping, wailing and renting of sackcloth.

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sagehen  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:24:27pm

re: #119 JordanRules

We could probably start with some truth and reconciliation initiatives, civic engagement initiatives and really keep going from there.

Clinton continuing Obama’s economy along with those really bold, long needed Govt initiatives couldn’t hurt either.

You know what would be a big help?

If the religious Left (Jim Wallis, Rev Barber, Slacktivist, some of Pope Francis’ new cardinals, etc) were to organize for a big public profile with frequent TV appearances, lobbying, take over the prayer breakfast, endorsements, and every other analog to the religious right whack-jobs.

People who call themselves Christians are a huge voting bloc, and they’re only hearing from one side of the debate. They need voices they’ll consider legitimate to tell them that abortion and homosexuality are not the be-all and end-all, or even the most important, moral questions. Someone they’ll listen to who can explain that Jesus never thought either of those issues was worth a single mention, ever, but he went on and on and on about feeding the hungry, housing the homeless, healing the sick, paying your taxes, and so forth.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:28:16pm

You mean not all Christians are hardcore Republicans??

//

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JordanRules  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:28:40pm

re: #133 sagehen

Agreed! This would help a lot.

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dangerman  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:28:55pm

re: #98 Jay C

Maybe, but the “lesson” that, as Jeet puts it,

”..giving the most powerful job in the world to a bigoted mobbed up reality show star with no policy knowledge & an abusive character wasn’t a smart move.”

shouldn’t really be one that needed a particularly steep learning curve have needed to be tested at all…

it’s right up there with “don’t touch the goddamn hot stove”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:28:59pm

oh dear…trumpsters are spitting upset…

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:29:02pm

What troubles me about Bernie…Dennis Kucinich.

If you have some time read this…

WaPo - The Vindication of Dennis Kucinich

SubHead is all you need as a hint: When he ran for president, he was ridiculed and dismissed. It turns out he was the future of American politics.

Some Berners here in Ohio are talking about the greatness of this article and how Bernie has made them believe that Kucinich is the real deal. Bernie showed the way.

I want to show him and Dennis the door.

If they fuck up the Ohio Governor’s race and get pissed Kucinich loses the primary and they vote for DeWine out of spite…

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petesh  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:30:12pm

re: #133 sagehen

Agreed. I’m not religious, but I do have politically active friends who are. Unfortunately, a significant number of left-leaning people are not religious, and frequently dismissive of religion. Mutual education would be great.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:30:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:32:14pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:32:19pm

So wait. Did Grassley really say that about AOL? It’s Chuck, so of course I have to ask…

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:32:55pm

re: #109 Belafon

I made sure everyone I knew went out and voted for Clinton. I in no way shape or form wanted Trump to win.

But, tell me this, what do you think elections would have been like this fall had Clinton won?

A hypothetical which cannot be properly answered.

re: #111 Belafon

You don’t live in a Republican state, do you?

I do. We have mail voting and paper ballots, and routinely have 80% voter turnout in this state. Conservatives love heavy voter turnout and fair elections if they can win them.

They only impose voting restrictions and other bars to voting when there’s a chance they’ll lose.

Conservatism only has one goal, gaining and maintaining power.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:33:35pm

re: #142 GlutenFreeJesus

So wait. Did Grassley really say that about AOL? It’s Chuck, so of course I have to ask…

pretty sure it was a joke.
maybe.

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makeitstop  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:34:13pm

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

pretty sure it was a joke.
maybe.

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:35:03pm

re: #133 sagehen

You know what would be a big help?

If the religious Left (Jim Wallis, Rev Barber, Slacktivist, some of Pope Francis’ new cardinals, etc) were to organize for a big public profile with frequent TV appearances, lobbying, take over the prayer breakfast, endorsements, and every other analog to the religious right whack-jobs.

People who call themselves Christians are a huge voting bloc, and they’re only hearing from one side of the debate. They need voices they’ll consider legitimate to tell them that abortion and homosexuality are not the be-all and end-all, or even the most important, moral questions. Someone they’ll listen to who can explain that Jesus never thought either of those issues was worth a single mention, ever, but he went on and on and on about feeding the hungry, housing the homeless, healing the sick, paying your taxes, and so forth.

I wonder if such Christians would actually consider someone who said those things to be a trusted voice. Possibly, but I’m not convinced. I think their religion depends on believing the opposite of that, and their trusted voices are those on FOX and in the churches who tell them to hate.

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wrenchwench  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:35:33pm

re: #140 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Edward Snowden

@Snowden
And they call me a criminal.]

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teleskiguy  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:35:34pm

Fuck. That’s two fatalities in three days.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:36:28pm

re: #144 Backwoods_Sleuth

pretty sure it was a joke.
maybe.

It. Has. To. Be.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:37:31pm

re: #141 Backwoods_Sleuth

Funny, I just saw my first Roseanne ad on TV. It had a couple of “hey, did you know you can find ______ on the internet” jokes. And I wondered if they wrote the script 15 years ago.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:38:32pm

re: #145 makeitstop

I’d carry that phone, if I could.

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plansbandc  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:38:37pm

re: #132 petesh

Yeah. That did suck, I’m sorry. My team didn’t even get in. :(

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:38:40pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:39:01pm
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plansbandc  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:39:52pm

re: #140 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Not just a criminal, a traitor.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:40:09pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“So, wait, you’re tellin’ me those flyboys don’t even ride in the plane anymore? What, y’all gone soft in the last 70 years?!”

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:40:28pm

re: #139 petesh

Agreed. I’m not religious, but I do have politically active friends who are. Unfortunately, a significant number of left-leaning people are not religious, and frequently dismissive of religion. Mutual education would be great.

I don’t know about “left-leaning people,” but the overwhelming majority of Democrats are Christians.

It’s amazing how conservative propaganda (Democrats hate religion) seeps even into conversations on the left.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:40:47pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:41:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:41:11pm

re: #156 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

“So, wait, you’re tellin’ me those flyboys don’t even ride in the plane anymore? What, y’all gone soft in the last 70 years?!”

bayonets and horses, son…that’s what we really need…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:42:02pm

re: #157 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t know about “left-leaning people,” but the overwhelming majority of Democrats are Christians.

It’s amazing how conservative propaganda (Democrats hate religion) seeps even into conversations on the left.

There was a study somewhere (linked here, maybe?) that some 55% of Democrats identify strongly as Christians. But no, “Progressive” is a code word for “does not believe in God”.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:43:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:43:15pm

A 12-year-old boy was arrested in Philadelphia on Saturday after he was reportedly seen walking the street with a loaded AR-15 rifle.

Philadelphia police said 19-year-old Michael Mitchell was armed with a handgun while he was arguing with his neighbor, CBS Philly reported on Monday.

During the dispute, Mitchell reportedly asked his 12-year-old brother to go grab the AR-15.

The boy was spotted walking up the street with the loaded weapon, which was legally owned by his older brother.

Both guns were inside a car when police arrived, but the teenager reportedly tried to reach for the rifle.

“I opened up the back door of the black Ford Taurus and he reached for the AR,” Officer Krzysztof Wrzesinski said. “That’s when I yelled at him to ‘stop’ and he immediately stopped and complied.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:43:59pm

re: #151 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’d carry that phone, if I could.

Well, I don’t have a dial on my flip phone, but my home phone is a dial telephone (‘cause that’s what we get here).

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:44:04pm

re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth

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His Preparation H failed!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:44:18pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh, dear God. If that kid had actually grabbed the gun… The decision that officer would have had to make, to kill a 19-year-old… What the fuck is wrong with this country.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:44:22pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

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petesh  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:45:05pm

re: #152 plansbandc

Yeah. That did suck, I’m sorry. My team didn’t even get in. :(

Life goes on. And we did beat City rather gloriously at the weekend.

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teleskiguy  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:45:31pm

OK, I just got totally owned, folks. Time to hang it up.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:46:26pm

re: #169 teleskiguy

OK, I just got totally owned, folks. Time to hang it up.

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I gotta admit, man, he’s got me too. I’ve literally got no response to that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:47:00pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

Let me guess: It was a white kid.

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JordanRules  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:49:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:49:21pm

re: #171 Eclectic Cyborg

Let me guess: It was a white kid.

don’t think so, picture of the older brother at this link:
philadelphia.cbslocal.com

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sagehen  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:49:21pm

re: #138 ObserverArt

What troubles me about Bernie…Dennis Kucinich.

If you have some time read this…

WaPo - The Vindication of Dennis Kucinich

SubHead is all you need as a hint: When he ran for president, he was ridiculed and dismissed. It turns out he was the future of American politics.

Some Berners here in Ohio are talking about the greatness of this article and how Bernie has made them believe that Kucinich is the real deal. Bernie showed the way.

I want to show him and Dennis the door.

If they fuck up the Ohio Governor’s race and get pissed Kucinich loses the primary and they vote for DeWine out of spite…

Dennis Kucinich believes he has had personal contact with extra-terrestrials.

Representative Dennis Kucinich UFO

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Targetpractice  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:49:32pm

re: #171 Eclectic Cyborg

Let me guess: It was a white kid.

That was my conclusion. The tell? The cop didn’t reflexively fire as he was giving the order because he “felt threatened.”

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teleskiguy  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:50:41pm

re: #170 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I gotta admit, man, he’s got me too. I’ve literally got no response to that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:50:48pm

re: #161 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

There was a study somewhere (linked here, maybe?) that some 55% of Democrats identify strongly as Christians. But no, “Progressive” is a code word for “does not believe in God”.

That came from Franklin Graham.

I can’t give a figure (because I’m not a scientific pollster) of conservatives who have told me “I believe in Jesus, but I’m not religious.”

Many atheists align with the Democratic Party, because the Republican Party has specifically set itself up as the Party of God. While there are atheist conservatives, they are not welcome in the GOP.

[fixed]

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Targetpractice  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:50:55pm

re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth

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In keeping with his playing off the Nixon playbook, Donny now presents the investigation into his crimes into an attack on America itself. That he’s fighting to stay in office against a grand conspiracy to remove him in a “coup.”

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JordanRules  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:52:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:53:34pm

he is so pathetic

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petesh  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:53:38pm

re: #157 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t know about “left-leaning people,” but the overwhelming majority of Democrats are Christians.

It’s amazing how conservative propaganda (Democrats hate religion) seeps even into conversations on the left.

I kinda resent being called a victim of conservative propaganda. Note that the Ravenous Cofveve gave a figure of 55% Christian — and I said “a significant number,” which 45% certainly is. Moreover, I strongly suspect that many of the Bernie folks (certainly most of the several I know) are irreligious, and that this in part caused them to snicker at Hillary’s excellent relationship with black churchgoers. I’m calling for both believers and nonbelievers to respect the other, since (among Democrats) they share far more moral beliefs than not. I want Bernie to go away, but I do want his supporters to vote Democrat.

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JordanRules  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:54:07pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:54:25pm

When one party’s president was reported to say “I don’t think atheists can be patriotic, nor should they be citizens,” should we align with that party, even if we are conservative?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:55:49pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:56:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:56:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:57:09pm

*snerk*

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Stanley Sea  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:58:13pm

Says Who is coming up on CNN for an interview next.

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JordanRules  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:58:14pm

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This hearing is a shit show. They should have had a smaller number of prepared Senators doing this.

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teleskiguy  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:58:50pm

These people are so fucking dim.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 10, 2018 • 2:59:07pm

re: #181 petesh

I kinda resent being called a victim of conservative propaganda. Note that the Ravenous Cofveve gave a figure of 55% Christian — and I said “a significant number,” which 45% certainly is. Moreover, I strongly suspect that many of the Bernie folks (certainly most of the several I know) are irreligious, and that this in part caused them to snicker at Hillary’s excellent relationship with black churchgoers. I’m calling for both believers and nonbelievers to respect the other, since (among Democrats) they share far more moral beliefs than not. I want Bernie to go away, but I do want his supporters to vote Democrat.

I’m not sure where the figure of 55% comes from.
people-press.org
(near the bottom of the first page and top of second page, religious affiliation by party)

Conservatives have been pounding “liberals hate Christians or Christianity.” They’ve been doing that longer than I’ve been alive … during the desegregation fights they were arguing liberals were standing against the order of God.

I did not call you a “victim of conservative propaganda.” I noted conservative propaganda has seeped into discussions on the left.

As for Sanders, perhaps he should go away and knit. /s

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teleskiguy  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:00:50pm

re: #190 teleskiguy

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:01:24pm

re: #192 teleskiguy

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I was half expecting the old standby, “CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL”.

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sagehen  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:01:39pm

re: #189 JordanRules

This hearing is a shit show. They should have had a smaller number of prepared Senators doing this.

It’s days like today we really miss Al Franken.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:01:49pm

re: #191 Anymouse 🌹

I think I mis-quoted a survey, that’s where 55% came from.

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petesh  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:02:00pm

re: #191 Anymouse 🌹

For Chrissake, why take that conservative rubbish seriously? As for propaganda seeping in … that’s essentially what today’s Facebook hearing is all about!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:03:09pm
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Kilroy was here  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:03:23pm

Trolling trolling trolling….

Michael Moore taunts Trump: ‘Grow a pair’ and fire Mueller already

Filmmaker Michael Moore taunted President Trump in a lengthy Facebook post Tuesday, telling him that it’s “time to grow a pair” and fire special counsel Robert Mueller.
thehill.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:03:24pm

re: #193 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I was half expecting the old standby, “CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL”.

I remember a curmudgeon back in the old USENET days who insisted on all caps “for clarity”.
I told him that none of us bothered to read any of his old man yelling at clouds.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:04:27pm

re: #197 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Yeah, but once they get organized, there will be a significant spike in the number of alcohol-related injuries in the next few days.

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teleskiguy  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:05:13pm

I’m really being too generous with this asshole.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:06:50pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:08:56pm

re: #201 teleskiguy

I’m really being too generous with this asshole.

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I’ll never understand how it’s possible for Liberals to be limousine-riding, chablis-swilling Coastal Elites, and yet all of us are unemployed and supported by all the states with really low median wages.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:09:52pm

re: #201 teleskiguy

Also, I think people would take him more seriously if he weren’t an obvious moron.

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austin_blue  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:09:57pm

re: #203 Blind Frog Belly White

I’ll never understand how it’s possible for Liberals to be limousine-riding, chablis-swilling Coastal Elites, and yet all of us are unemployed and supported by all the states with really low median wages.

It’s a puzzlement!

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:10:04pm

re: #96 goddamnedfrank

I still think the idea that we’ve “learned” anything is overly optimistic.

As we learned in 2016, if a Democrat is elected President in 2020, by 2028 the Left will be complaining that both parties are the same and waste a couple of million votes on a Green party candidate.

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sagehen  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:10:32pm

re: #172 JordanRules

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That’s an utterly horrifying story.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:10:37pm

re: #205 austin_blue

It’s a puzzlement!

No, it’s a boondoggle.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:10:39pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:11:25pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:11:43pm

Finally blocked ol’ Ry. That was a waste of ten minutes on Twitter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:13:02pm

re: #203 Blind Frog Belly White

I’ll never understand how it’s possible for Liberals to be limousine-riding, chablis-swilling Coastal Elites, and yet all of us are unemployed and supported by all the states with really low median wages.

We are just so sneaky.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:13:22pm

re: #196 petesh

For Chrissake, why take that conservative rubbish seriously? As for propaganda seeping in … that’s essentially what today’s Facebook hearing is all about!

I don’t take it seriously. I imagine the overwhelming majority of people here don’t take it seriously.

But a lot of people do take it seriously, hence the letter to my newspaper last Thursday claiming atheists are the cause of moral decay and mass-murder in schools, because we “banned prayer” in schools and my immediate rebuttal on Saturday in the paper.

There is a reason the woman who called me from here in town told me thank you for my rebuttal and outed herself over the phone as an atheist, noting she has to go to church here in town because she fears discrimination and loss of her job.

There is a reason I got an anonymous Thank You card in the mail for my letter, and several calls since - a lot of people do take that rubbish seriously.

The most viewed article I ever had at Daily Kos was a response to a front-pager there arguing atheists should sit down and shut up.

Even if you don’t take that conservative agitprop seriously or give it a moment’s notice, a lot of liberals do.

Because Another Member Said Enough Atheist Diaries I Am Writing an Atheist Diary (goes to Daily Kos, posted September 12, 2014).

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teleskiguy  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:13:28pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:14:04pm

re: #109 Belafon

I made sure everyone I knew went out and voted for Clinton. I in no way shape or form wanted Trump to win.

But, tell me this, what do you think elections would have been like this fall had Clinton won?

The silver lining of this election is that the Democrats have a good chance of controlling the White House and Congress in 2021-22. If Clinton had been elected President, the GOP would’ve retained control of Congress until at least 2023.

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teleskiguy  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:14:16pm

re: #203 Blind Frog Belly White

I’ll never understand how it’s possible for Liberals to be limousine-riding, chablis-swilling Coastal Elites, and yet all of us are unemployed and supported by all the states with really low median wages.

A real stumper.

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plansbandc  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:15:14pm

re: #211 teleskiguy

Blocked him as soon as you pointed him out. I do very much appreciate it when any lizard points out a dipshit. Blocking is one of my favorite activities.

Sorry about the questionable language.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:17:00pm

re: #127 JordanRules

Yes! A lot of education reform needed including a lot around civics and history.

A good place to start would be the actual history of the Civil War and Reconstruction.

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teleskiguy  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:18:51pm

Something happened between this tweet, and this one three and a half months later, but what? I might lose sleep over it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:18:55pm

re: #217 plansbandc

Blocked him as soon as you pointed him out. I do very much appreciate it when any lizard points out a fucktard. Blocking is one of my favorite activities.

I actually thought the blocking option was obvious when I posted the wingnut exchange in #137 for fellow lizards to toy with if so desired.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:19:19pm

re: #185 teleskiguy

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He’s a Replicant.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:19:47pm

re: #219 teleskiguy

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He ate most of the soup and then forgot about it for a while…

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Targetpractice  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:20:29pm

re: #197 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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It was a grim day at Delta House:

Animal House-Bluto cries

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Teukka  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:23:37pm

Interesting events tonight in my neck of the woods:
pscp.tv

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:23:50pm
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MsJ  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:24:00pm

re: #205 austin_blue

It’s a puzzlement!

Ooh… Déjà vu.

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Targetpractice  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:24:59pm

re: #225 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Translation: Shit just got real for him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:25:17pm

heh

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:26:02pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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every time I see that photo, it looks to me like Eric has thrown up a little bit in his mouth.

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Targetpractice  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:26:32pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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“Have you heard the word of ‘He Who Walks Behind The Rows’?”

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:26:52pm

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

I AM NOT UPSET I YAM EXHAUSTED FROM ALL OF MR TRUMP’S WINNING

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:26:53pm

re: #225 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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shit gets real when the yam throws you under the bus

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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:27:26pm

re: #225 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Typical bully behaviour

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:27:40pm
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jaunte  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:27:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:28:24pm
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petesh  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:28:33pm

re: #213 Anymouse 🌹

Fair enough

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The Major  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:28:50pm

re: #219 teleskiguy

Something happened between this tweet, and this one three and a half months later, but what? I might lose sleep over it.

Why worry about a man who has been banned from all Fox properties and will never be interviewed again?

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Teukka  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:29:33pm

re: #224 Teukka

Interesting events tonight in my neck of the woods:
pscp.tv

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Targetpractice  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:29:47pm

But let’s be honest, as creepy as those three goobers together can appear, they will never top this:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:30:27pm

re: #240 Targetpractice

oh gawd, yes…the Romney spawn.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:31:33pm

stuff you need to know:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:31:57pm

WHIMSY CHAIRS!!!!!

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The Major  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:33:48pm

re: #225 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:34:06pm

Henceforth, my computer desk chair that rotates and rocks back and forth shall be known as a

WHIMSY CHAIR!!!!

(can y’all tell that I am waiting until almost the last freaking minute to finish my income taxes?)

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MsJ  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:34:31pm

re: #239 Teukka

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Lisbeth Salander is on the loose in Uppsala again?

All joking aside, I hope everything is OK there.

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KGxvi  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:34:36pm

re: #104 Belafon

Then again, neither are vaccines, but…

There are a few other lessons, but the big ones seem to be:
1. “You” can run for office.
2. Democrats need to run people everywhere.
3. People need to come out to vote.

Wasn’t that Howard Dean’s point back in 2004?

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plansbandc  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:34:43pm

Dobbs is such a twatwaffle.

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Teukka  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:35:10pm

re: #246 MsJ

Lisbeth Salander is on the loose in Uppsala again?

All joking aside, I hope everything is OK there.

No injuries, but a recycling room got blown up.

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MsJ  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:35:39pm

re: #240 Targetpractice

But let’s be honest, as creepy as those three goobers together can appear, they will never top this:

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I’m about 50/50 on which, or who, are creepier.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:35:43pm

re: #247 KGxvi

Wasn’t that Howard Dean’s point back in 2004?

why, yes, it was!
I believe it was even called a 50-state strategy (oh, that’s what bernie is claiming the Democrats haven’t done ever…)

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KGxvi  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:36:38pm

re: #104 Belafon

Then again, neither are vaccines, but…

There are a few other lessons, but the big ones seem to be:
1. “You” can run for office.
2. Democrats need to run people everywhere.
3. People need to come out to vote.

Also, I’d add a fourth lesson that’s tied to lessons 2 and 3: Democrats need to give people a reason to come out and vote

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Skip Intro  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:37:11pm

Laura Ingraham has lost two more advertisers, Blue Apron and Slim Fast. The remaining advertisers look like their normal time slot is 3 a.m. on a Sunday night.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:38:14pm

re: #203 Blind Frog Belly White

I’ll never understand how it’s possible for Liberals to be limousine-riding, chablis-swilling Coastal Elites, and yet all of us are unemployed and supported by all the states with really low median wages.

Well, lessee. My first girlfriend gets $25,000/month rent support since I own the house and charge her that much, for which she gets a 50% kickback. We each get $8500/month for each of our two children, the authorities having never noticed that these are now in their 30s and 40s. I also get a pittance in military retirement plus $650,000 in residual graft from defense contractors and Chinese agents plus $50,000/month for medicare, for which I get a 75% kickback from crooked liberal doctors, most of whom are Jews or Muslims. The second girlfriend gets $86,450 in WIC and Food Stamps for god knows how many non-existent children she claims. She shares this loot with me and girlfriend #1, as well as the corrupt bureaucrats who approve her applications, then sells the surplus to Colombian drug cartels, who use it to compensate their hit-men and legislators.
This is not even mentioning my farm subsidies or the tax breaks I get for declaring my estate a holy place of the Cult of Cthulhu.

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Kragar  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:38:24pm
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MsJ  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:38:59pm

re: #249 Teukka

No injuries, but a recycling room got blown up.

No injuries is always a good thing.

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gwangung  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:39:06pm

re: #252 KGxvi

Also, I’d add a fourth lesson that’s tied to lessons 2 and 3: Democrats need to give people a reason to come out and vote

Personally, I’d restate this: all politics are local. Therefore, state issues in terms of things that matter to the local voting population. Big picture is fine….but they have to be stated in terms of local things (the things your voters care about).

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Targetpractice  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:39:22pm

re: #255 Kragar

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They’re really scraping the bottom of the barrel at this point, aren’t they?

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teleskiguy  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:39:59pm

re: #254 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Your experiences fleecing the welfare state intrigue me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:41:08pm

re: #183 Anymouse 🌹

When one party’s president was reported to say “I don’t think atheists can be patriotic, nor should they be citizens,” should we align with that party, even if we are conservative?

Depends on how rich you are, and how badly you want a tax cut.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:41:22pm

re: #255 Kragar

“Goebbels looks up from Hell, and mumbles ‘I was born 70 years too soon.’”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:42:22pm

re: #254 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I adore creative bookkeeping!

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KGxvi  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:42:26pm

re: #257 gwangung

Personally, I’d restate this: all politics are local. Therefore, state issues in terms of things that matter to the local voting population. Big picture is fine….but they have to be stated in terms of local things (the things your voters care about).

That’s fair. I don’t have any data to back it up, but logically, I’m guessing the failure to run candidates in some races probably has an effect on turnout. Sort of a negative coattails effect “they don’t really care about us because they won’t even run someone in this district, so why should I bother voting for president/governor/senator? They’re just going to ignore us!” Now maybe that district level candidate loses 4:1, but that’s better than putting nothing on the board.

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MsJ  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:43:07pm

re: #255 Kragar

It doesn’t happen often but I’m speechless. Like mouth hanging open but nothing comes out speechless.

I got nothing.

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gwangung  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:44:22pm

re: #263 KGxvi

That’s fair. I don’t have any data to back it up, but logically, I’m guessing the failure to run candidates in some races probably has an effect on turnout. Sort of a negative coattails effect “they don’t really care about us because they won’t even run someone in this district, so why should I bother voting for president/governor/senator? They’re just going to ignore us!” Now maybe that district level candidate loses 4:1, but that’s better than putting nothing on the board.

That’s pretty true, too. Keep the party in people’s head. Make a serious run, even if you think you’ll lose by a landslide, because you’ll never be taken seriously if you don’t show up.

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fern01  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:45:06pm

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

Maggie still getting her calls from the president*

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:47:14pm

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What is that loser Jindal doing these days? He seems to have dropped into a black hole; does he have a Fox News gig, or some other grift?

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fern01  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:47:17pm

re: #137 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh dear…trumpsters are spitting upset…

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They really want to put anyone and everyone in jail who refuses to bow down to dear leader

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William Lewis  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:48:13pm

Can we put Zuckerberg and Trump in the same cell at Supermax?

Sigh.

Meanwhile as brain bleach from today…

Motörhead - The Trooper (Iron Maiden) Cover

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Skip Intro  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:48:53pm

re: #253 Skip Intro

She’s also adding a new segment on the 1st amendment and how all conservatives are persecuted by devil worshiping liberals. That segment will not include anybody who disagrees with Ingraham or Fox however.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:48:58pm

We need a cuteness break.

Plushy Ammonoid

Available at fine natural history museums. (Though right now it might still be an exclusive at one in Ithaca, NY.)

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:49:06pm

re: #264 MsJ

It doesn’t happen often but I’m speechless. Like mouth hanging open but nothing comes out speechless.

I got nothing.

In FOXworld, this is true. FOX viewers will never hear about any Trump scandals, because the control the network has over them is absolute. Their world is completely separate from ours, even if the names remain the same.

Furthermore, FOX communicates in emotions. So a FOX show may have words on it that describe some Trump evil, but the emotions conveyed, through friendly pundits and dismissive reporting, are that there is no scandal. To a FOX cultist, there is only glory and greatness in the Trump White House. They literally can’t hear any different.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:49:49pm

re: #203 Blind Frog Belly White

I’ll never understand how it’s possible for Liberals to be limousine-riding, chablis-swilling Coastal Elites, and yet all of us are unemployed and supported by all the states with really low median wages.

George SOROS.

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KGxvi  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:50:32pm

re: #267 Big Beautiful Door

What is that loser Jindal doing these days? He seems to have dropped into a black hole; does he have a Fox News gig, or some other grift?

Wikipedia just says “he enjoys hunting in Louisiana.” Nothing about what he’s done since leaving office. Which is… weird.

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MsJ  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:50:57pm

re: #267 Big Beautiful Door

What is that loser Jindal doing these days? He seems to have dropped into a black hole; does he have a Fox News gig, or some other grift?

Jindal is far too… tanned for Fox.

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MsJ  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:51:50pm

re: #271 Feline Fearless Leader

We need a cuteness break.

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Available at fine natural history museums. (Though right now it might still be an exclusive at one in Ithaca, NY.)

My puppy really needs that.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:53:07pm

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

Henceforth, my computer desk chair that rotates and rocks back and forth shall be known as a

WHIMSY CHAIR!!!!

(can y’all tell that I am waiting until almost the last freaking minute to finish my income taxes?)

Me too.

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KGxvi  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:53:12pm

re: #274 KGxvi

Wikipedia just says “he enjoys hunting in Louisiana.” Nothing about what he’s done since leaving office. Which is… weird.

Follow up: on his twitter feed it looks like he’s occasionally writing op eds but is mostly just being a dad.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:54:05pm

re: #253 Skip Intro

Laura Ingraham has lost two more advertisers, Blue Apron and Slim Fast. The remaining advertisers look like their normal time slot is 3 a.m. on a Sunday night.

Stalin tactics!!!!

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BigPapa  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:56:56pm

Twitter Gulag Defense Network needs to be reactivated. Please, oh pretty please!

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gocart mozart  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:57:28pm
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danarchy  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:58:02pm

re: #278 KGxvi

Follow up: on his twitter feed it looks like he’s occasionally writing op eds but is mostly just being a dad.

When he dropped out of the presidential race, I believe he said he was going to work for some think tank.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:58:32pm

re: #255 Kragar

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Listen to the callers we deal with every day at work…

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KGxvi  Apr 10, 2018 • 3:59:27pm

re: #282 danarchy

When he dropped out of the presidential race, I believe he said he was going to work for some think tank.

That’s possible, but his twitter feed is mostly stuff about his kids’ sports accomplishments, links to his op eds at the WSJ, and most recently stuff from Benson’s funeral.

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BigPapa  Apr 10, 2018 • 4:00:00pm

Oh yeah, bring the succulent Godwins, all of them

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 10, 2018 • 4:10:11pm

re: #275 MsJ

Jindal is far too… tanned for Fox.

He could always sit in with Diamond and Silk! 😉

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TedStriker  Apr 10, 2018 • 4:10:43pm

re: #284 KGxvi

That’s possible, but his twitter feed is mostly stuff about his kids’ sports accomplishments, links to his op eds at the WSJ, and most recently stuff from Benson’s funeral.

Robert Guillaume?

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Kragar  Apr 10, 2018 • 4:11:37pm

re: #285 BigPapa

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KGxvi  Apr 10, 2018 • 4:12:38pm

re: #287 TedStriker

Robert Guillaume?

Tom Benson, recently deceased owner of the New Orleans Saints and Pelicans.

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mmmirele  Apr 10, 2018 • 4:15:02pm

I made it to Louisville and my hotel. I think I startled the desk agent when I told her why I’m here (“picketing ‘Together For The Gospel 2018’ because the promoters didn’t seem to have a problem with a speaker who covered up child abuse at his church”). Sometime in the last month or so I have gone *sproing* so now I look more middle aged and really not the someone you’d expect to be picketing a church gathering.

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Sea Mexican!  Apr 10, 2018 • 4:17:39pm

re: #261 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“Goebbels looks up from Hell, and mumbles ‘I was born 70 years too soon.’”

Goebbels: “Thanks to you, I’m getting early release! The Devil needs as much space as possible for the lot of you.”

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wrenchwench  Apr 10, 2018 • 4:19:42pm

re: #289 KGxvi

Tom Benson, recently deceased owner of the New Orleans Saints and Pelicans.

Lyrics at YouTube. Find the movie and watch it. I loved it!

Benson Arizona - Lets have some music in here, Boiler

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MsJ  Apr 10, 2018 • 4:25:13pm

Heh.

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 10, 2018 • 4:29:26pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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What ever you do, don’t look in the freezer.

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 10, 2018 • 4:30:38pm

re: #293 MsJ

Heh.

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Nothing complicates your life like a federal indictment.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 10, 2018 • 4:31:38pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 10, 2018 • 4:34:50pm
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The Major  Apr 10, 2018 • 4:43:14pm

re: #293 MsJ

From The Daily Beast article:

Trump must know this may be one of the most dangerous moments in his entire life, not just his presidency. The likelihood is that Mueller and the FBI are now in possession of the Black Books of Trump, NDAs from enough of Trump’s various affairs that you can staff a 12-pole strip club with plenty of girls left for the Champagne rooms. It’s only speculation at this point, but it’s quite likely that Cohen was the keeper of many of Trump’s lending documents, contracts, business arrangements, and the Kryptonite of Trump’s fragile self-worth: the long-sought tax returns.

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Archangelus  Apr 10, 2018 • 4:51:17pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2018 • 4:53:59pm

re: #271 Feline Fearless Leader

We need a cuteness break.

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Available at fine natural history museums. (Though right now it might still be an exclusive at one in Ithaca, NY.)

Ribbed for your pleasure….
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 10, 2018 • 4:55:17pm

re: #198 Kilroy was here

Trolling trolling trolling….

Michael Moore taunts Trump: ‘Grow a pair’ and fire Mueller already

Filmmaker Michael Moore taunted President Trump in a lengthy Facebook post Tuesday, telling him that it’s “time to grow a pair” and fire special counsel Robert Mueller.
thehill.com

I’m sorry but Moore’s shit is tired. If Trump fires Mueller, and he very well may, that’s not some obvious checkmate scenario that ends his Presidency. Even if it ends up helping Democrats win in November that’s a long way off. Meanwhile it’s just another shit show erosion of our democracy and rule of law and not something we should be joking about.

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Archangelus  Apr 10, 2018 • 4:55:47pm
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meteor  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:02:38pm
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Skip Intro  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:04:57pm

From multicultural weekend at Cal Poly last week.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:05:45pm

re: #267 Big Beautiful Door

What is that loser Jindal doing these days? He seems to have dropped into a black hole; does he have a Fox News gig, or some other grift?

Former Gov. Bobby Jindal has taken a new job as an operating adviser for Ares Management, a global investment firm based in Los Angeles, according to the Greater Baton Rouge Business Report.

The publicly traded company says it has $104 billion in assets and has 15 offices around the world.

“The firm is large enough to make an impact, and the people are high quality,” Jindal wrote in an email to friends obtained by the Business Report. “I have enjoyed the private equity work I have done over the last several months, and am confident this platform will allow me to help portfolio companies accelerate their growth while also making a real impact in the changing health care environment.”

nola.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:06:26pm

re: #268 fern01

They really want to put anyone and everyone in jail who refuses to bow down to dear leader

and proper English is not their first language…

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William Lewis  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:13:32pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:17:37pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:19:50pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:22:12pm

This fucknut alternative “reality”

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Skip Intro  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:23:13pm

re: #310 The Vicious Babushka

What happened to the old poll?

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:23:17pm

re: #310 The Vicious Babushka

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lawhawk  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:23:38pm
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William Lewis  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:25:13pm

re: #310 The Vicious Babushka

This fucknut alternative “reality”

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Actually, Lou, I’d say we have to purge the nation Faux News and everyone associated with it before truth, justice and the American way have any fucking hope again.

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BlueGrl21  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:27:07pm

I hit my saturation point this morning.

I had to get up with my 15 year-old. I had just opened one eye and I heard, “Mom! Trump is tweeting!”

I will be goddamned if I wake up at 5:45 in the fucking morning to my son gleefully sharing Trump’s tweets about his attorney who payed off a porn star for him. No.

I told him I could not take any more and if he told me any Trump news for the rest of the day I’d ground him from playing Fortnight for a week.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:27:49pm

re: #315 BlueGrl21

I hit my saturation point this morning.

I had to get up with my 15 year-old. I had just opened one eye and I heard, “Mom! Trump is tweeting!”

I will be goddamned if I wake up at 5:45 in the fucking morning to my son gleefully sharing Trump’s tweets about his attorney who payed off a porn star for him. No.

I told him I could not take any more and if he told me any Trump news for the rest of the day I’d ground him from playing Fortnight for a week.

Atta way, mom!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:29:19pm

re: #308 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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gee…I could have SWORN I’ve been hearing Democratic Senators, not to mention current and former military folks, in DC lambasting this very thing.

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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:29:46pm

re: #308 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Greenwald back on Tucker’s show? I’d rather hear about mean panda sex again.

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Skip Intro  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:30:55pm

re: #309 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The Pillow Guy is carrying 20% of the commercial load on Ingraham’s show now.

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Skip Intro  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:33:16pm

re: #318 bill d. (b.d.)

Greenwald back on Tucker’s show? I’d rather hear about mean panda sex again.

I’m devastated. I thought is was mean panda sex week on Tucker.

321
gocart mozart  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:33:18pm

I still don’t understand Cusack’s point. can anyone help. Does he mean “suspicious” in a good way or in a “they have alterior motives” way?

322
austin_blue  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:40:09pm

re: #259 teleskiguy

Your experiences fleecing the welfare state intrigue me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

And he didn’t even mention his $oros checks!

323
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:40:49pm

re: #315 BlueGrl21

I hit my saturation point this morning.

I had to get up with my 15 year-old. I had just opened one eye and I heard, “Mom! Trump is tweeting!”

I will be goddamned if I wake up at 5:45 in the fucking morning to my son gleefully sharing Trump’s tweets about his attorney who payed off a porn star for him. No.

I told him I could not take any more and if he told me any Trump news for the rest of the day I’d ground him from playing Fortnight for a week.

If you were really serious, you’d ground him for an actual fortnight…

324
TedStriker  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:46:02pm

re: #323 Backwoods_Sleuth

If you were really serious, you’d ground him for an actual fortnight…

325
Big Beautiful Door  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:46:31pm

re: #310 The Vicious Babushka

This fucknut alternative “reality”

[Embedded content]

57% are voting No.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:52:11pm

wowser

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Ohio House Speaker Cliff Rosenberger says he’s resigning from office amid talk of an FBI investigation into his activities.

Rosenberger released a statement Tuesday night saying that while he believes all of his actions as speaker have been “ethical and lawful,” he understands the inquiry could take some time to resolve.

The term-limited Republican from Clarksville says there are many important issues facing the state and Ohioans deserve elected leaders who are able to devote their “full and undivided attention” to these matters.

The 36-year-old Rosenberger told the Dayton Daily News on Friday that he hired Columbus attorney David Axelrod, a former federal prosecutor, “as a precautionary measure.” He says the FBI has been asking questions but has not subpoenaed him or told him he’s under investigation.

Rosenberger says his resignation will take effect May 1.

327
The Vicious Babushka  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:52:30pm

Jeff Beau’s replacement?

328
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:53:38pm

re: #322 austin_blue

And he didn’t even mention his $oros checks!

All Lizardoids will receive a free sample of my newsletter with their next Soros check.

329
HappyWarrior  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:55:12pm

re: #327 The Vicious Babushka

Jeff Beau’s replacement?

[Embedded content]

Could well be. He’s looking for an asskisser not an AG.

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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:57:03pm

re: #252 KGxvi

Also, I’d add a fourth lesson that’s tied to lessons 2 and 3: Democrats need to give people a reason to come out and vote

Oops…misunderstood your point. Mah Bad.

331
Barefoot Grin  Apr 10, 2018 • 5:59:08pm

re: #319 Skip Intro

The Pillow Guy is carrying 20% of the commercial load on Ingraham’s show now.

Just a glimmering cross they’ll both willingly bear on chains around their necks to prove how righteous they are. Gleaming hypocrisy.

332
retired cynic  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:00:25pm

This is gorgeous: thisiscolossal.com

24-year-old French student Étienne Jacob produces black and white GIFs that transform the curvature found in sinusoidal waves into a multitude of experimental forms. The animated spheres imitate the appearance of mutating microbes or fiery stars, yet tend to remain in a 2D plane.

Image: agif2opt.gif

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:00:52pm

re: #327 The Vicious Babushka

Jeff Beau’s replacement?

[Embedded content]

More likely he’s looking for a replacement for Cohen.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:01:13pm

I posted this on March 30.

Mark my words, Ingraham will pull out the whole victim shit by Monday since Holy Week will be over and she can go back to her asshole self.

Cha-ching. I’ll be here for all your gambling needs.

335
Barefoot Grin  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:01:21pm

At what point do GOP crimes outstrip the resources of the F.B.I. to investigate them?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:01:43pm
337
Ace Rothstein  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:02:25pm

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

Look at those two freaks. Holy fuck.

338
Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:02:55pm

Hey, turns out Megan McArdle is still an idiot.

“…conservatives spend the first few decades of their lives in a left-skewed educational system, and the rest consuming cultural products made by liberals, so that liberal cultural hegemony barrages them daily with their “otherness.” Which is how they can sincerely feel powerless despite holding a great deal of political power.”

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ckkatz  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:03:49pm

From an earlier thread. (Finally caught up.)

re: #425 Feline Fearless Leader

Rummaging in a closet for stuff to pack or throw out turned up two old-style film cameras. (Canon AT-1 and a Canon AE-1 Program.) Plus two 100-200mm zoom lenses, a few other accessories, and 8 rolls of unexposed 200- or 400- speed film.

Any Lizards know of any photo buffs or locations possibly interested in older equipment like this? I doubt the stuff is compatible with modern digital cameras at all. And the film is probably at least 15-20 years old.

You may wish to consider donating the cameras to a High School photography program or student. Or maybe a youth group.

My next door neighbor’s son was in a high school photography program and was studying film photography. I give him my father’s old AE-1 and lenses from the 1970’s.

340
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:03:56pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:04:07pm

re: #267 Big Beautiful Door

What is that loser Jindal doing these days? He seems to have dropped into a black hole; does he have a Fox News gig, or some other grift?

Maybe he is in hiding since people are figuring out what he actually did to them.

342
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:04:48pm

Lou is already down 60/40 No

343
Unshaken Defiance  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:05:04pm

re: #335 Barefoot Grin

At what point do GOP crimes outstrip the resources of the F.B.I. to investigate them?

Right about when Trump fired Comey. Not joking

344
gocart mozart  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:05:14pm

I think Cusack’s on the pot.

345
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:05:26pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:05:36pm

re: #337 Ace Rothstein

Look at those two freaks. Holy fuck.

Their looks aren’t the problem. It’s the squirrels in their heads that bother me, and all the money they have to indulge them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:06:35pm

re: #346 Blind Frog Belly White

Their looks aren’t the problem. It’s the squirrels in their heads that bother me, and all the money they have to indulge them.

might explain those unnaturally huge foreheads…

348
teleskiguy  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:07:20pm

Since dude’s in the news, let us look back at the South Park Zuck.

South Park - Mark Zuckerberg compilation

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austin_blue  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:08:04pm

re: #328 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

All Lizardoids will receive a free sample of my newsletter with their next Soros check.

Oh, goody! I can’t wait to get the inaugural issue.

350
William Lewis  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:08:49pm

I’ve a lot of love for Dave Grohl as most here realize. This short interview bit puts a lot of words to why.

Dave Grohl Proves You Don’t Need Lessons to Rock

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:08:59pm

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

might explain those unnaturally huge foreheads…

“I’m just going to ram my ovipositor down your throat and lay my eggs in your chest, but I’m not an alien!

352
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:10:13pm
353
lawhawk  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:10:16pm

re: #344 gocart mozart

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austin_blue  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:10:37pm

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Now I know where the term “High Brow” came from!

They’ve got Giacometti heads.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:11:22pm

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Black people sold black people to white people, who sold them to white people (sometimes multiple times), who treated them (better or worse) as property. I fail to see how white people have some magical moral high ground here.

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retired cynic  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:12:24pm

re: #355 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Or white people captured black people and enslaved them, and so on with your example.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:13:19pm

re: #356 retired cynic

Or white people captured black people and enslaved them, and so on with your example.

A fair point. It’s important for these whitesplainers to realize that not all slaves were sold to slave traders, especially once the slave trade started to be outlawed.

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BeachDem  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:13:27pm

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Wendy Siegelman is amazing. Here’s her Emerdata chart (note the Mercer girls’ prominent positions.)

Putting the link because her charts often don’t copy well (too much data) and she recommends sharing the link rather than a page shot.

medium.com

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dangerman  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:17:24pm

re: #345 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

about effing time

it’s simple - when she calls “next” you say

“why wont you answer his/her question?”

and you all do it

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:17:33pm

re: #252 KGxvi

Also, I’d add a fourth lesson that’s tied to lessons 2 and 3: Democrats need to give people a reason to come out and vote

I’m actually tired of this trope. Democrats passed a stimulus to get out of the Great Recession, passed the ACA, raised taxes on the rich, and got legislation through that ended DADT. And what happened? They lost elections.

Clinton’s turn to the right, after Democrats passed tax increases on the wealthy to get out of the recession was caused by shellacking they took in ‘94.

And we all know what happened after Democrats voted for Medicare, Medicaid, the CRA, and VRA.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:17:37pm

re: #355 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Black people sold black people to white people, who sold them to white people (sometimes multiple times), who treated them (better or worse) as property. I fail to see how white people have some magical moral high ground here.

This is the part where the abuser wants credit for stopping behavior he should never have been engaged in in the first place. “Hey! I haven’t hit you today, and you’re not grateful!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:18:31pm
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Kragar  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:18:48pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:18:55pm

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Stupid Horowitz stepped thigh-deep in it this time.

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Varek Raith  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:19:41pm

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

”___ was bad but”

That always ends well.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:19:50pm

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Wtf is he talking about?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:20:35pm

re: #366 HappyWarrior

Wtf is he talking about?

whitesplaining slavery

368
Kragar  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:20:49pm
369
PhillyPretzel  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:21:15pm

re: #366 HappyWarrior

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

Revisionist History 101.

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Danack  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:22:04pm

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

BUT I NEED TO GO TO SLEEEEEEEEP!!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:22:35pm

re: #364 Barefoot Grin

Stupid Horowitz stepped thigh-deep in it this time.

[Embedded content]

Horowitz should just shut up. We know about white Union soldiers. No one ignores them but yeah whine more about leftists you stupid man who used to be an actual communist and left because he’s a racist first.

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Belafon  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:22:40pm

re: #296 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

In the replies:

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makeitstop  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:22:43pm

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

might explain those unnaturally huge foreheads…

I believe those are known as ‘fiveheads.’

374
Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:22:47pm

re: #364 Barefoot Grin

Stupid Horowitz stepped thigh-deep in it this time.

Just pointing out that it was mostly white ppl that fought to free slaves.

Fought to free the slaves from who, exactly?

Take your time. I’ll wait.

Plus, aren’t these the folks who always say that the Civil War wasn’t about slavery, and point to the fact that Lincoln said that if he had to keep slavery to save the Union, he’d do that?

375
Barefoot Grin  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:23:07pm

On twitter your (Horowitz) page has on the “you may also like” Gorka, Bongino, Larry Elder, Robert Spenser, etc…. It’s gotta be tough to be a conservative Jewish person when all your cohort are your basic anti-semites.

376
Dr. Matt  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:23:12pm

Dotard is wishing he can go back to private life and tweeting outrage about “blackish” while spending his days bankrupting his companies.

377
HappyWarrior  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:23:53pm

re: #374 Blind Frog Belly White

Fought to free the slaves from who, exactly?

Take your time. I’ll wait.

Plus, aren’t these the folks who always say that the Civil War wasn’t about slavery, and point to the fact that Lincoln said that if he had to keep slavery to save the Union, he’d do that?

Depends what talking point they want for today.

378
Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:24:46pm

re: #365 Varek Raith

”___ was bad but”

That always end well.

‘This stomach flu and three days of voming and diarrhea was bad but I lost 5 lbs!

379
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:24:47pm
380
HappyWarrior  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:25:07pm

re: #375 Barefoot Grin

On twitter your (Horowitz) page has on the “you may also like” Gorka, Bongino, Larry Elder, Robert Spenser, etc…. It’s gotta be tough to be a conservative Jewish person when all your cohort are your basic anti-semites.

That’s why I don’t feel bad for him and Shapiro. They choose to associate with bigots.

381
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:25:29pm

re: #380 HappyWarrior

That’s why I don’t feel bad for him and Shapiro. They choose to associate with bigots.

Lie down with dogs, etc., etc.

382
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:25:39pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:26:06pm

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

wowser

[Embedded content]

Very interesting. Not surprising though. Ohio Republicans are like all Republicans right now, corrupt to the bone and in it for themselves.

384
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:26:16pm
385
Belafon  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:26:37pm

re: #345 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s all I ever wanted from them.

386
jaunte  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:26:55pm
387
HappyWarrior  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:26:57pm

re: #381 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Lie down with dogs, etc., etc.

Yep. Ben worked for Bannon for years and then cries about anti Semitic bs from him and Breitbart. No one deserves that shit but Shapiro and Horowitz are intellectually dishonest horse shit salesmen.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:27:15pm

re: #382 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

I called that shot earlier today, when it came out that he signed off on recusing the subordinate attorney who would have nixed the search warrant on Cohen.

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jaunte  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:27:21pm
390
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:27:22pm
391
Varek Raith  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:28:06pm

Ruh-roh.

392
lawhawk  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:28:35pm

re: #384 Backwoods_Sleuth

63-37 NO. Yeah, this is going spectacularly.

Again.

393
Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:28:37pm

re: #391 Varek Raith

Ruh-roh.

Shit’s getting real, yo.

394
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:28:46pm
395
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:29:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:30:13pm

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Laura wants to talk about Stalinism. Well.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:30:39pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:30:55pm

re: #395 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Yep he’s a scumbag. He needs to join Trump in jail.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:30:55pm

re: #395 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Jim, I think you’d pass out from alcohol poisoning before you had enough drinks to fuck that man.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:31:22pm
401
lawhawk  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:32:16pm

re: #389 jaunte

Dana Boente… that’s a name we haven’t heard since…. he was named general counsel to the FBI by the director Christopher Wray.

He was previously the EDVA. That Boente’s got notes corroborating/identifying obstruction of justice shouldn’t be all that surprising. Everyone who took notes after meeting with Trump came to same conclusion: Comey among them.

402
Belafon  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:32:20pm

re: #355 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Black people sold black people to white people, who sold them to white people (sometimes multiple times), who treated them (better or worse) as property. I fail to see how white people have some magical moral high ground here.

White people owned slaves. And it took a war to make them stop. And then they’ve tried to rewrite it because they weren’t supposed to lose.

Whenever they tried to make the story more complicated than that they’re just trying to change the subject.

403
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:32:36pm
404
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:33:38pm

re: #401 lawhawk

Dana Boente… that’s a name we haven’t heard since…. he was named general counsel to the FBI by the director Christopher Wray.

He was previously the EDVA. That Boente’s got notes corroborating/identifying obstruction of justice shouldn’t be all that surprising. Everyone who took notes after meeting with Trump came to same conclusion: Comey among them.

405
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:35:21pm
406
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:36:41pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:36:46pm

re: #350 William Lewis

I’ve a lot of love for Dave Grohl as most here realize. This short interview bit puts a lot of words to why.

[Embedded content]

Video

Ha. Almost the same way I’ve learned to play drums and guitar.

And I admire Grohl too. Ohio proud! Warren’s own.

408
Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:37:58pm
409
Belafon  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:40:59pm

re: #405 Backwoods_Sleuth

Even though that’s a Democratic seat, she still won it by 15 more points than Clinton did.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:42:26pm

re: #408 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Trouble and Double right there. Bad things (i.e. explosions) are about to happen.

Also, those two are at the top of my “must meet” bucket list.

411
The Major  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:43:39pm

re: #364 Barefoot Grin

412
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:45:14pm

Throwing shade
(it’s yesterday’s, down 64/36 on today’s right now)

413
teleskiguy  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:47:20pm

re: #405 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sing it to me. blue wave…blue wave…

414
BeachDem  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:55:05pm

re: #383 ObserverArt

re: #384 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hey, ObserverArt and Sleuth—OH and KY are “heading south” this month. Our speakers for our state convention are Alison Lundergan Grimes and Tim Ryan. Sort of excited about her, not so much about him.

415
fern01  Apr 10, 2018 • 6:56:45pm

re: #327 The Vicious Babushka

Jeff Beau’s replacement?

[Embedded content]

Are people really so stupid that they would work in the trump White House. Apart from the likely short term appointment, future activities could be limited.

416
Skip Intro  Apr 10, 2018 • 7:25:57pm

re: #392 lawhawk

63-37 NO. Yeah, this is going spectacularly.

Again.

Lou really is a special kind of stupid. Doesn’t he know that at Fox you only allow people who agree with you vote?

417
Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 10, 2018 • 7:32:02pm

re: #339 ckkatz

From an earlier thread. (Finally caught up.)

You may wish to consider donating the cameras to a High School photography program or student. Or maybe a youth group.

My next door neighbor’s son was in a high school photography program and was studying film photography. I give him my father’s old AE-1 and lenses from the 1970’s.

Thanks for the suggestion. That will be the first place I check.

418
SpikeDad  Apr 11, 2018 • 2:04:02pm

re: #26 Ace-o-aces

I see the raid included Cohen’s “taxi medallion” holdings. There’s been some shady Ukrainian mob related shenanigans related to Cohen’s partners in that business. Example:

buzzfeed.com

Can you saw money laundering?

That probably where he got the cash to pay off Stormy. Small untraceable bills from untraceable cash transactions.


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Capital Cities - Levitate (Visualizer)Music video by Capital Cities performing Levitate. © 2018 Lazy Hooks, LLC, under exclusive license to UMG Recordings, Inc. vevo.ly
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