The Bob Cesca Show: Baby in a Corner

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Baby In A Corner: NSFW; Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; Michael Cohen raided by the FBI; Cohen suspected of bank fraud, campaign finance violations and wire fraud; Trump whined for six minutes; Trump says the FBI broke into Cohen’s house; Attorney client privilege; Agents were seeking records about payoffs to two women; Schumer and Grassley warn the president; Lindsay Graham says Trump is too smart to fire Mueller; Why Trump can’t stop this investigation; Trump always makes things worse for Trump; Trump staffers communication with the president thru Fox News; and much more.

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372 comments

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JordanRules  Apr 10, 2018 • 9:07:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 10, 2018 • 9:21:49pm

re: #1 JordanRules

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Ginger poodle? Either way, cute dog.

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austin_blue  Apr 10, 2018 • 10:07:13pm

Michael Cohen is now Mueller’s bitch. He is either on board *right now* or he is on the train to Joliet for a ten year hitch in an orange jumpsuit.

And Drumpf can’t do a thing about it. And it’s driving him batshit crazy.

This is a great day for America.

And night all. I’m still dealing with jet lag. Gotta go.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 10, 2018 • 10:16:49pm

re: #3 austin_blue

Michael Cohen is now Mueller’s bitch. He is either on board *right now* or he is on the train to Joliet for a ten year hitch in an orange jumpsuit.

And Drumpf can’t do a thing about it. And it’s driving him batshit crazy.

This is a great day for America.

And night all. I’m still dealing with jet lag. Gotta go.

Drumpf can do something; he can pardon him — but if he does, does that mean Cohen cannot use the 5th Amendment to avoid answering Mueller’s questions?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2018 • 10:19:53pm

Does someone have the link to the info on the protests if Mueller gets fired?

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gwangung  Apr 10, 2018 • 10:23:21pm

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

Does someone have the link to the info on the protests if Mueller gets fired?

act.moveon.org

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JordanRules  Apr 10, 2018 • 10:24:24pm

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

Does someone have the link to the info on the protests if Mueller gets fired?

trumpisnotabovethelaw.org

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 10, 2018 • 10:29:11pm

Off-topic …

Again I am having trouble with Microsoft Office 2016 … Outlook keeps loading and crashing, all other programs won’t open.

I’m reëvaluating my life choices in buying the “upgrade” to Office 2007 which worked perfectly.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 10, 2018 • 10:53:51pm

re: #6 gwangung

act.moveon.org

Thanks. Bookmarked now.

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Aussie Apocalypse  Apr 10, 2018 • 10:54:57pm

re: #2 HappyWarrior

I think the coat colour is Apricot.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 10, 2018 • 10:59:48pm

re: #10 Aussie Apocalypse

I think the coat colour is Apricot.

Needs matching Ascot.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Apr 10, 2018 • 11:10:38pm

re: #4 Hecuba’s daughter

Drumpf can do something; he can pardon him — but if he does, does that mean Cohen cannot use the 5th Amendment to avoid answering Mueller’s questions?

Yes.

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Jack Burton  Apr 10, 2018 • 11:13:34pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹

Off-topic …

Again I am having trouble with Microsoft Office 2016 … Outlook keeps loading and crashing, all other programs won’t open.

I’m reëvaluating my life choices in buying the “upgrade” to Office 2007 which worked perfectly.

I’m the head of IT for a smallish government contractor and have worked in this field more or less since 1997* and I’ve not got any version of Outlook 2016 other than the Android app to work correctly past a reboot yet. It seems to corrupt my profile every time I exit the program. After *eight* times setting it up, I quit bothering.

In the office on my workstation there I have 2013 and it works fine. When I work from home, I have to use the Outlook web app or my phone to check my mail.

*I list my “qualifications” to show you not to feel bad or cursed if it happens to you.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 10, 2018 • 11:38:07pm

re: #13 Jack Burton

I’m the head of IT for a smallish government contractor and have worked in this field more or less since 1997* and I’ve not got any version of Outlook 2016 other than the Android app to work correctly past a reboot yet. It seems to corrupt my profile every time I exit the program. After *eight* times setting it up, I quit bothering.

In the office on my workstation there I have 2013 and it works fine. When I work from home, I have to use the Outlook web app or my phone to check my mail.

*I list my “qualifications” to show you not to feel bad or cursed if it happens to you.

Thanks. My wife is a software engineer who worked for Digital Equipment Corporation and our public librarian. She’s not able to get me past my frustrations.

I have a purchased copy of Office 2016 Business at the computer shop in Scottsbluff. Despite repeated chats with Microsoft, downloading the program three times from failure of the license at their direction I have never gotten Outlook to work correctly on the first load. (It will sometimes load the license and not crash after several attempts.)

This problem is new: Word and Excel simply will not start. The best I can figure is that something corrupted those files. I could load Word or Excel in safe mode, but they would crash and close after a couple minutes.

On top of that, something happened to my login at office (dot) com and I just spent an hour trying to set it back up. I am trying the on-line repair now, since quick repair in Control Panel doesn’t fix the problem.

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Jack Burton  Apr 10, 2018 • 11:49:25pm

re: #14 Anymouse 🌹

The conspiracy theorist in me want to think this is Microsoft’s way of forcing everyone to use Office 365 and all of their Azure cloud services for everything. Since they put all that out I’ve had nothing but migraines from everything not on their cloud.

That said it seems you have as big of a hassle with at least some of their online services too.

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teleskiguy  Apr 10, 2018 • 11:54:07pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 11, 2018 • 12:03:09am

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Single-handed sailor  Apr 11, 2018 • 12:07:58am

Is there anyone out there that understands WTF is going on in Legion? It’s like that time I woke myself up at 4 AM to take a large dose of LSD and go right back to sleep, to wake up while peaking.

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teleskiguy  Apr 11, 2018 • 12:08:55am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 12:12:24am

re: #18 Single-handed sailor

Is there anyone out there that understands WTF is going on in Legion? It’s like that time I woke myself up at 4 AM to take a large dose of LSD and go right back to sleep, to wake up while peaking.

I used to do that in high school

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 12:17:38am

I did the on-line repair of Office 2016. It still fails to load Word and Excel. Gaaaa.

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Kragar  Apr 11, 2018 • 12:23:59am

re: #18 Single-handed sailor

I’ve only watched season 1. Waiting on season 2 until I can watch the whole thing at once

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Single-handed sailor  Apr 11, 2018 • 12:26:15am

re: #22 Kragar

I’ve only watched season 1. Waiting on season 2 until I can watch the whole thing at once

yeah, that might help, or maybe ‘shrooms.

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teleskiguy  Apr 11, 2018 • 12:26:50am
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 12:29:13am

I’m going to log off. I have another call to make to my state Attorney General’s office about this Microsoft problem with them selling improperly-functioning software at high cost then blowing off tech support I pay for.

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teleskiguy  Apr 11, 2018 • 12:39:56am
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Single-handed sailor  Apr 11, 2018 • 12:46:25am

I went out to the garage to get a Coke and found the water heater leaking, 2018 just keeps sucking more.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 12:53:07am

re: #27 Single-handed sailor

I went out to the garage to get a Coke and found the water heater leaking, 2018 just keeps sucking more.

Sympathies.

2017 was an unmitigated disaster for me and 2018 has shown no signs of getting better…

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 1:04:38am

The Sinclair spoxbot who tweeted a rape fantasy at David Hogg and lost his job at Sinclair?

Well, it appears his radio show is now in danger. Conservatives seem to have this problem with being responsible for the consequences of their speech. No doubt wingnuts will spin it as “intolerant liberals” again.

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Jack Burton  Apr 11, 2018 • 1:06:12am

re: #28 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sympathies.

2017 was an unmitigated disaster for me and 2018 has shown no signs of getting better…

2016 was horrible. 2017 said “oh yeah, hold my beer”. Things have been just mildly shitty for awhile now. Waking up everyday wondering how Clownstick was going to fuck everyone today has not helped any of this.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 1:06:18am
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 1:12:34am

re: #31 Anymouse 🌹

And he has been booted off Twitter. Apparently his tweet was even too much for them.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 11, 2018 • 1:13:50am

re: #31 Anymouse 🌹

Good! There should be consequences to hate speech. His ugly commentary is indefensible.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 1:24:08am

re: #30 Jack Burton

2016 was horrible. 2017 said “oh yeah, hold my beer”. Things have been just mildly shitty for awhile now. Waking up everyday wondering how Clownstick was going to fuck everyone today has not helped any of this.

My reasons were mostly personal, end of a four-year relationship with girlfriend and musical partner. And she kicked ass at Scrabble, which is one of the things I miss most.

And losing her place as a base of operations in Frankfurt meant relocating my teaching activities, which left a big hole in my finances that I am still recovering from.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 1:40:09am

As a reminder, Trump isn’t the only one with a weird daughter fetish. You may remember this tweet from his lawyer Michael Cohen:

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 1:51:50am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 2:00:43am

re: #36 JordanRules

Donald Trump’s singular achievement in life will be the unique experience of being the only person to truly know what if feels like to be Richard Nixon, but with a fraction of the IQ, and even less of a legacy.

It is almost an affront to Nixon to compare the two. And it is not merely a matter of intelligence, it is a matter of pure cussedness and unwillingness to learn.
Nixon had many faults but had some redeeming features and at least had a record of public service before assuming the Presidency.

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Lupin  Apr 11, 2018 • 2:11:27am

re: #37 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is almost an affront to Nixon to compare the two. And it is not merely a matter of intelligence, it is a matter of pure cussedness and unwillingness to learn.
Nixon had many faults but had some redeeming features and at least had a record of public service before assuming the Presidency.

I would totally agree. Nixon wasn’t such a bad president overall, but he had deep character flaws that proved his undoing. And after all, he did inherit the ill-conceived Vietnamese conflict, though he didn’t handle it any better than his predecessors. I also think he listened to Kissinger way too much.

Having lived through these times (born 1954), despite the Vietnam War, the NIXON=SS placards in the demonstrations here, etc, etc, the US was still widely admired and envied, thanks to the culture of the 60s and 70s. This is no longer the case today; the best I see now is bafflement, but there is also a lot of reviling, contempt and exasperation. The amount of damage Trump has done to the US brand is literally indescribable.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 2:13:49am

re: #38 Lupin

The amount of damage Trump has done to the US brand is literally indescribable.

We were damaged and vulnerable to start with: DT and his supporters (both foreign and domestic) just exploited and exacerbated that situation.

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Lupin  Apr 11, 2018 • 2:14:24am

So we now know that some unidentified persons in the Trump inner circle have offered inducements (successfully) to Ukraine to not cooperate with Mueller, and Qatar to not rat on Jared. The corruption runs so deep it’s mind-blowing.

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Lupin  Apr 11, 2018 • 2:17:22am

re: #39 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We were damaged and vulnerable to start with: DT and his supporters (both foreign and domestic) just exploited and exacerbated that situation.

Well, yes, the Iraq War really really hurt, and also, the lack of response during/after Katrina. The good French folks in my village just couldn’t believe the US Government would let go of a city like that. The images on TV were damning.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 2:22:15am

re: #41 Lupin

Well, yes, the Iraq War really really hurt, and also, the lack of response during/after Katrina. The good French folks in my village just couldn’t believe the US Government would let go of a city like that. The images on TV were damning.

I spend a lot of time on this hobbyhorse, but I will jump back on it again: when people rely on their FB feed for news on anything other than what their friends and family are up to, and when “trending on Twitter” became a news item in and of itself, I began to fear for the future of the Republic.

Now we have Mark Zuckerberg testifying before Congress and a President who expresses his policy initiatives in the form of Tweets.

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Lupin  Apr 11, 2018 • 2:25:14am

re: #42 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I spend a lot of time on this hobbyhorse, but I will jump back on it again: when people rely on their FB feed for news on anything other than what their friends and family are up to, and when “trending on Twitter” became a news item in and of itself, I began to fear for the future of the Republic.

Now we have Mark Zuckerberg testifying before Congress and a President who expresses his policy initiatives in the form of Tweets.

In my little vvillage, no one (including myself) is on twitter, and i think I can count the fb users on the fingers of two hands. They’re still very much evening news. Sometimes it’s like being back in the 70s or 80s.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 2:29:25am

re: #43 Lupin

In my little vvillage, no one (including myself) is on twitter, and i think I can count the fb users on the fingers of two hands. They’re still very much evening news. Sometimes it’s like being back in the 70s or 80s.

I have never been on Twitter and only use FB to keep up with far-flung friends and relatives. I delete political posts as soon as they come up, be they pro or anti-Trump and have blocked or even dropped people who get too carried away with them.

I do not rely on broadcast news for information, I stick with print sources or online news and only watch videos when they show footage of some dramatic event.

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 2:45:51am

re: #42 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I spend a lot of time on this hobbyhorse, but I will jump back on it again: when people rely on their FB feed for news on anything other than what their friends and family are up to, and when “trending on Twitter” became a news item in and of itself, I began to fear for the future of the Republic.

Now we have Mark Zuckerberg testifying before Congress and a President who expresses his policy initiatives in the form of Tweets.

Social media had nothing to do with Iraq, traditional media failed on that and failed at the 2016 campaign. Ironically many of these were print and online which you seem to implicitly grant your consumption to. Although you do get news from those other icky places by virtue of coming here.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 2:50:56am

re: #45 JordanRules

Social media had nothing to do with Iraq, traditional media failed on that and failed at the 2016 campaign. Ironically many of these were print and online which you seem to implicitly grant your consumption to. Although you do get news from those other icky places by virtue of coming here.

I hear way too much about Twitter here…

But at times it is relevant to the national political discourse - for better or worse.

And I am selective about print and Internet media and try to consume multiple sources and to do so critically and comparatively.

Iraq was another matter entirely, that is true, and the way our media fawned over the President and feared doing or saying things critical of him for fear of being seen as unpatriotic or even traitorous was truly sad.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 11, 2018 • 3:01:25am

re: #40 Lupin

So we now know that some unidentified persons in the Trump inner circle have offered inducements (successfully) to Ukraine to not cooperate with Mueller, and Qatar to not rat on Jared. The corruption runs so deep it’s mind-blowing.

Wow. I didn’t know that. Trump’s administration is so corrupt that everyday brings a fresh horror. November can’t come fast enough. We must bite them out and flip Congress.

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 3:06:54am

re: #46 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I hear way too much about Twitter here…

But at times it is relevant to the national political discourse - for better or worse.

And I am selective about print and Internet media and try to consume multiple sources and to do so critically and comparatively.

Iraq was another matter entirely, that is true, and the way our media fawned over the President and feared doing or saying things critical of him for fear of being seen as unpatriotic or even traitorous was truly sad.

I’m not sure what hearing too much about Twitter here means. But yes, lots of it is just news and the rest is folks responding to the news, jokes and pet pics. No different than blogs before social media. It’s just in the form of a Tweet and Charles has programmed the site to make it easy, integrated and have nice formatting. The content is the same as, say, Balloon Juice, another blog where commenters can’t post the Tweets with nice formatting so they have to copy and paste the text or put the link. Conent is the same, only the formatting is different.

And I am selective about print and Internet media and try to consume multiple sources and to do so critically and comparatively.

This is the point, not which tool or platform you find it on. This is how it should be regardless. It doesn’t matter if you get your NBC News story linked from their site directly, their FB page, an email someone sent to you, a chat app with friends. You gotta be discerning, curious and vigilant. Tools and distribution will continue to change and those things will remain the same.

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 3:25:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 3:28:51am

re: #49 JordanRules

A Pennsylvania manufacturer that relies on Chinese steel pipe has few alternative sources — and now its Chinese rival may gain an advantage https://

Trump will make it up to him.

He’s making a list and checking it twice.

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freetoken  Apr 11, 2018 • 3:31:49am

Used to be,
when I was young,
for brunch or lunch
we would enjoy a fritter.

Now in my dotage
I’ll just wag my tongue,
and play the hunch
and post on twitter.

Fritters make me fatter,
Twitter makes me fitter,
Only in the fears of
Zuckerberg.

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Lupin  Apr 11, 2018 • 3:34:06am

re: #47 Patricia Kayden

Wow. I didn’t know that. Trump’s administration is so corrupt that everyday brings a fresh horror. November can’t come fast enough. We must bite them out and flip Congress.

The Ukrainian info came from last week’s/latest issue of PRIVATE EYE, more specifically an article written by their correspondent in Kiev.

The Qatar-threatens-to-expose-Jared-unless-Trump-changes-his-tune was part of yesterday’s speculations regarding the Qatari visit to the WH.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 11, 2018 • 3:51:20am

Conventional wisdom on Morning Joe this morning is that McConnell actually did the smart thing holding off on legislation because it’s unclear how or if it would work and who in their right mind would want to be the person to pull the career-ending job of firing Mueller (assuming they were hired to replace Rosenstein). Maybe. I still reserve my right to hate McConnell and to believe he had other motives.

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 3:52:42am

What a loon.

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 3:58:30am
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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 3:59:51am
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I cannot.  Apr 11, 2018 • 4:08:03am

THREAD

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 4:14:33am

Ummmmmm

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 4:17:42am

re: #57 I cannot.

“Food Stamps Should Not Pay for Junk

Part of a bigger issue, namely that we have a food industry that does not concern itself with health and a health-care industry that does not concern itself with nutrition.

Michael Pollan writes a lot on food and points out that the lowest possible margin for food producers is from selling us healthy, wholesome & organic products that we prepare ourselves.

The highest margin comes from selling us highly processed products made from bulk corn and wheat with some with added chemicals tossed in for flavor.

So what do we expect to see the market flooded with?

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freetoken  Apr 11, 2018 • 4:19:37am

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

On occasion I go to the local “farmers market”, where a bunch (but dwindling number) of local farmers sell their goods.

Business is not so good, I am told. Apparently people just don’t want to buy fresh fruit and veg.

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Bubblehead II  Apr 11, 2018 • 4:22:14am

re: #58 JordanRules

Ummmmmm

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 4:24:37am

re: #61 Bubblehead II

Wag the dog or a set-up.

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 4:29:46am

re: #62 JordanRules

Wag the dog or a set-up.

Yup.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 4:34:15am

re: #60 freetoken

On occasion I go to the local “farmers market”, where a bunch (but dwindling number) of local farmers sell their goods.

Business is not so good, I am told. Apparently people just don’t want to buy fresh fruit and veg.

also because farm subsidies skewer the prices. And because our society tends to look on time spent preparing food as time wasted rather than as an investment in a higher quality of life and better health

another notion that came out in a Michael Moore documentary (not a big fan of his, but here he had a point): in France, school meals are seen as part of the children’s education: teaching them how to eat and serve and share and enjoy food. In America, school meals are seen as a cost factor to be kept to a minimum.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 4:37:36am

Last several hours spent with three Microsoft techs trying to fix Office in my computer. Hopefully it will work more than a day now.

Meanwhile in local news:

Fire at Minuteman III missile silo here where I live. (That makes me feel really safe.)

starherald.com

Banner County and Gering Fire Departments were called to a fire at missile alert facility, “C-1 or Charlie-1,” overseen by the 90th Missile Wing of F.E. Warren Air Force Base, near Harrisburg, shortly before 3 p.m. Scanner traffic indicated two were transferred to Regional West Medical Center.

On its social media accounts, F.E. Warren Air Force base described the fire as an incident that “was a result of the overheating of a piece of electrical equipment producing smoke. There was never a threat to the public or the Minuteman III system.”

The facility was evacuated.

In a posting on its Facebook account and a press release, officials confirmed that two active duty members were transferred to the hospital for treatment for smoke inhalation, but said further information about the service members would not be released.

(more at the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 4:44:48am

Harrisburg is the unincorporated county seat of Banner County (and the only town in the county). Banner County is the county between mine and Wyoming.

“The public was never in danger” is something a military public affairs officer or a civilian public information officer would be tasked with saying. (If we were in danger, we’d probably only find out after a bunch of radioactive material had salted our whole county.)

Good thing to know there are only dozens more missiles like that around here.

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 4:44:58am

He’s all over the place.
To war or not to war? Bolton is somewhere plotting.

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Bubblehead II  Apr 11, 2018 • 4:45:20am
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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 11, 2018 • 4:55:04am

So not only has Trump given days for Syria to hide/move their stuff he also just confirmed to Russia in a tweet HOW he is going to attack?

Remember candidate Trump whining about Obama telling our enemies our plan?

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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 11, 2018 • 4:56:53am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 4:57:58am

re: #70 bill d. (b.d.)

“Mattis Says Trump’s Warning Stopped Chemical Weapons Attack In Syria”

I am personally sick and tired of all this winning, I want to see some losing here so we can keep a sense of perspective.

/

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 4:58:46am
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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 4:59:25am

re: #71 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I’ve overdosed twice on winning already. Looking into rehab.
//

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:02:47am

re: #73 JordanRules

I’ve overdosed twice on winning already. Looking into rehab.
//

I’m busily celebrating not dying in a radiation accident from a nuclear missile silo some thirty miles directly west.

Image: File:90th_MW_-_Missile_Alert_Facilities.png (Wikipedia missile silos in the Nebraska Panhandle, No. Colorado, and SE Wyoming. C-1 is due west of my town.)

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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:03:51am
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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:07:46am

There are a million of these.

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:08:12am
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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:08:45am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:09:47am

re: #78 bill d. (b.d.)

“But things were different back then!”

is all you will hear if you confront people with these tweets

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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:11:18am

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“But things were different back then!”

is all you will hear if you confront people with these tweets

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Lupin  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:11:47am

One thing that came out of the article from the Kiev journalist in PRIVATE EYE was that the delivery by the US of missiles to Ukraine was a gesture for public consumption to male it look as if we stood up to Russia, but in reality, there is no way, no how, these weapons can be used against the Russians or their stooges in the east; it was all for show, and the Ukrainians know Trump is in Russia’s pocket & are trying to curry favor from him by not cooperating with Mueller’s demands.

Is there any single action that Trump has, in fact, initiated that could be construed as against Russian interests?

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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:12:22am

re: #79 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“But things were different back then!”

is all you will hear if you confront people with these tweets

It’s like Trump was predicting his own presidency, Nostradumbass.

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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:12:52am

ok, i”ll stop.

apologies

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:17:11am
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Lupin  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:19:28am

Without going into a long discourse, I am reminded of the fact that Pinochet didn’t seize power just by himself in Chile on 9/11/73. The Chamber of Deputies was totally complicit passing (81-47) a resolution that asked “members of the Armed and Police Forces” to “put an immediate end” to “breach[es of] the Constitution … with the goal of redirecting government activity toward the path of Law and ensuring the Constitutional order of our Nation, and the essential underpinnings of democratic co-existence among Chileans” (ie: overthrow Allende) and later the Courts went along and legitimized even Pinochet’s most criminal actions. All of this to say that a corrupt Congress that will not contain Trump is the greatest danger to your democracy right now.

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Lupin  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:25:42am

Putin totally outsmarts Trump in Turkey.

The Guardian

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:25:50am

re: #84 JordanRules

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Welp wouldn’t that make that Nazi Nehlen the favorite for the nomination? That said Ryan must be scared of an impending blue wave.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:33:17am

re: #87 HappyWarrior

Welp wouldn’t that make that Nazi Nehlen the favorite for the nomination? That said Ryan must be scared of an impending blue wave.

Iron Stache v. Nazi? I wonder how that would come out if Axios is correct?

The GOP is already running a Nazi in Illinois.

Running Nazis ought to be a plain ol’ good fear motivator to get liberals out to vote, and get some moderate both-siderists off the fence.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:36:20am
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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:37:26am

re: #87 HappyWarrior

Welp wouldn’t that make that Nazi Nehlen the favorite for the nomination? That said Ryan must be scared of an impending blue wave.

It must break Ryan’s heart that he has to leave before he totally dismantles all of society’s social safety nets.

Poor dear.

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jeffreyw  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:37:47am

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Good morning!

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:38:26am

Just need a cup of coffee and I am ready to start commenting

Good morning everyone. Another day of impending annihilation due to Presidential incompetence.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:38:37am

re: #90 bill d. (b.d.)

It must break Ryan’s heart that he has to leave before he totally dismantles all of society’s social safety nets.

Poor dear.

He’s also going to have to get a job not on the public dime. I’m sure someone will hire his useless ass tho.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:39:41am

re: #88 Anymouse 🌹

Iron Stache v. Nazi? I wonder how that would come out if Axios is correct?

The GOP is already running a Nazi in Illinois.

Running Nazis ought to be a plain ol’ good fear motivator to get liberals out to vote, and get some moderate both-siderists off the fence.

I’d give the edge to Stache but the fact I have to think about it makes me queasy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:40:15am

re: #85 Lupin

Remember though, the USA backed the coup.

en.wikipedia.org

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:42:48am

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Michael Pollan writes a lot on food and points out that the lowest possible margin for food producers is from selling us healthy, wholesome & organic products that we prepare ourselves.

I am not sure why you are equating “organic” products with healthy products. There is zero nutritional gain to producing food organically. There may be some positive aspects to food production using techniques that are under the rubric of organic, but those positives are more in line with soil health sustainability and crop diversity.

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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:44:47am

re: #93 HappyWarrior

He’s also going to have to get a job not on the public dime. I’m sure someone will hire his useless ass tho.

He can work in the corn stand near Lake Delavan part of the year, drive a snow plow in Janesville during the other part and work the odd fish fry.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:47:14am

re: #96 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I am not sure why you are equating “organic” products with healthy products. There is zero nutritional gain to producing food organically. There may be some positive aspects to food production using techniques that are under the rubric of organic, but those positives are more in line with soil health sustainability and crop diversity.

Moreover, “organic” production is usually significantly more expensive than regular agricultural production, elevating retail prices. Moreover, organic production creates lower yields (requiring more land to produce the same amount of crops).

As such, that higher production cost is passed on … and the poor are the least able to afford those cost increases.

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:50:26am

re: #94 HappyWarrior

I’d give the edge to Stache but the fact I have to think about it makes me queasy.

I feel bad that Cathy Myers has basically been ignored in favor of the Bernie backed Stache. He pulled me in with all the hype initially too but after looking into them both, I think she’s the better candidate. And he still won’t even debate her.

Obviously I want any Dem to win and will get on board but his coronation well before the August primary is kinda sad especially since he has no experience and hasn’t been tested. His first test will be in the general, for a super critical seat.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:51:14am

WHOA, NELLIE!

Washington Post alert—Ryan is NOT running for re-election!!!!

Now how many more Republicans are going to be like Brave Sir Robin and cut and run?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:53:48am

re: #99 JordanRules

I feel bad that Cathy Myers has basically been ignored in favor of the Bernie backed Stache. He pulled me in with all the hype initially too but after looking into them both, I think she’s the better candidate. And he still won’t even debate her.

Obviously I want any Dem to win and will get on board but his coronation well before the August primary is kinda sad especially since he has no experience and hasn’t been tested. His first test will be in the general, for a super critical seat.

He should debate her. That’s a shame.

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makeitstop  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:54:37am

This fucking guy.

President Donald Trump is famous for bragging about his net worth. Publicly, he claims he’s worth more than $10 billion. He even sued an author over the issue and lobbied the editors of Forbes about his ranking on their billionaires list.

Yet quietly in another setting, the Trump Organization says the president’s holdings are worth far less than he has proclaimed. Across the country, the Trump Organization is suing local governments, claiming its owes much less in property taxes than government assessors say because its properties are worth much less than they’ve been valued at. In just one example, the company has asserted that its gleaming waterfront skyscraper in Chicago is worth less than than its assessed value, in part because its retail space is failing and worth less than nothing.

Since becoming president, Trump’s companies have filed at least nine new lawsuits against municipalities in Florida, New York and Illinois, arguing for lower tax bills, ProPublica has found. Some of those lawsuits have been previously reported. At stake is millions of dollars that communities use to fund roads, schools and police departments.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:56:52am

re: #99 JordanRules

I feel bad that Cathy Myers has basically been ignored in favor of the Bernie backed Stache. He pulled me in with all the hype initially too but after looking into them both, I think she’s the better candidate. And he still won’t even debate her.

Obviously I want any Dem to win and will get on board but his coronation well before the August primary is kinda sad especially since he has no experience and hasn’t been tested. His first test will be in the general, for a super critical seat.

cathymyersforcongress.com

Neither has any government experience. (I presume if Ms. Myers had any, she’d put it on her about page linked above.)

Randy Bryce is an Army veteran, is the Chair of the Wisconsin Democratic Party Veterans Caucus. He is also the president of the Wisconsin Veterans Chamber of Commerce.

randybryceforcongress.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:57:50am

re: #60 freetoken

On occasion I go to the local “farmers market”, where a bunch (but dwindling number) of local farmers sell their goods.

Business is not so good, I am told. Apparently people just don’t want to buy fresh fruit and veg.

People do not want to pay what it costs to raise and bring those items to market.
Too many times I’ve had customers say “I can get that cheaper at Krogers.”
Me: “Then get in your car, drive the 50+ mile roundtrip and buy stuff that was picked days ago instead of this morning.” (and it’s a 40 mile roundtrip for me to bring stuff to the local farmers market.)

They want to pay the same prices at the farmers market that they did 20 years ago.
So I no longer bother. I can’t afford it.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:58:14am

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹

cathymyersforcongress.com

Neither has any government experience. (I presume if Ms. Myers had any, she’d put it on her about page linked above.)

Randy Bryce is an Army veteran, is the Chair of the Wisconsin Democratic Party Veterans Caucus. He is also the president of the Wisconsin Veterans Chamber of Commerce.

randybryceforcongress.com

School board member.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:58:41am

re: #101 HappyWarrior

He should debate her. That’s a shame.

It is the usual in politics: When you’re ahead, you don’t debate unless forced to. When behind, you demand debates to try to gain ground.

Politics has always been this way. Mr. Bryce has nothing to gain from a debate, and Ms. Myers has nothing to lose.

That is the way politics works, whether it’s for a town council or for the US House.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 5:59:57am

re: #106 Anymouse 🌹

It is the usual in politics: When you’re ahead, you don’t debate unless forced to. When behind, you demand debates to try to gain ground.

Politics has always been this way. Mr. Bryce has nothing to gain from a debate, and Ms. Myers has nothing to lose.

That is the way politics works, whether it’s for a town council or for the US House.

I’m aware but I believe the people of this district should get to see the candidates.

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:01:21am

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹

In 2013, I was elected to the Janesville School Board and reelected in 2016.

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:03:39am

re: #108 JordanRules

And for good measure:

“I’ve been a radio station news producer, a child care provider, a stay at home mom, and, for the last 23 years, a teacher.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:04:57am

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

People do not want to pay what it costs to raise and bring those items to market.
Too many times I’ve had customers say “I can get that cheaper at Krogers.”
Me: “Then get in your car, drive the 50+ mile roundtrip and buy stuff that was picked days ago instead of this morning.” (and it’s a 40 mile roundtrip for me to bring stuff to the local farmers market.)

They want to pay the same prices at the farmers market that they did 20 years ago.
So I no longer bother. I can’t afford it.

It’s a thirty-two mile round trip to the nearest farmer’s market for me.

As for “not buying junk on food stamps,” that argument is the convergence argument between left and right.

For the right, “Why should my money go to give a child a birthday cake once a year?” For the left it’s “Why should my money go for high-calorie processed food when the poor should be eating the healthy foods that take a long time to cook when you’re working two minimum wage jobs, &c.”

Despite all the claims of the health benefits of so-called organic food, food distribution and quality is never better in this nation than it is today.

Tell a poor person in a city (or even out here in the country) well, you’ll have to spend twice as much of your food stamps on half as much food (but you’ll eat healthier) and you’re likely to get a blast of “why are you trying to starve my kids” and “limousine liberals are telling me I need to spend two hours preparing meals when I already spent twelve hours on two jobs.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:06:15am

re: #96 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I am not sure why you are equating “organic” products with healthy products. There is zero nutritional gain to producing food organically. There may be some positive aspects to food production using techniques that are under the rubric of organic, but those positives are more in line with soil health sustainability and crop diversity.

fewer pesticides and chemical residues in the food, and yes, indirect health benefits through less environmental impact.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:06:27am

re: #107 HappyWarrior

I’m aware but I believe the people of this district should get to see the candidates.

That would be nice; that’s not how politics works.

Looking at their two “about” pages, Mr. Bryce seems to have a bit more experience in the area of public administration, along with Federal experience in bureaucracy (as a veteran).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:07:32am

re: #102 makeitstop

Yet quietly in another setting, the Trump Organization says the president’s holdings are worth far less than he has proclaimed. Across the country, the Trump Organization is suing local governments, claiming its owes much less in property taxes than government assessors say because its properties are worth much less than they’ve been valued at.

If only he could somehow produce tax documents to prove his point…

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:08:08am

re: #60 freetoken

On occasion I go to the local “farmers market”, where a bunch (but dwindling number) of local farmers sell their goods.

Business is not so good, I am told. Apparently people just don’t want to buy fresh fruit and veg.

I occasionally go to those as well. And the fruits and vegetables are priced out of the range of someone living on SNAP.

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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:08:13am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. With multiple sources confirming, it looks like Ryan’s running - fleeing - from Congress.

He’s not running again in November, which means there’ll be a scramble for the Speaker’s gavel.

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:09:15am

re: #61 Bubblehead II

Didn’t “last time” get a couple hundred Russian soldiers killed?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:09:33am

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹

That would be nice; that’s not how politics works.

Looking at their two “about” pages, Mr. Bryce seems to have a bit more experience in the area of public administration, along with Federal experience in bureaucracy (as a veteran).

I’m aware. Just stating my personal preference.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:10:21am

re: #114 Belafon

I occasionally go to those as well. And the fruits and vegetables are priced out of the range of someone living on SNAP.

And if demand was higher on farmers’ markets, the prices would go even higher (assuming no more goods are brought to market).

We spend a good portion of the late summer canning things such as fresh corn and tomatoes. How many people in cities even know how to do that?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:11:18am
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:12:20am

re: #119 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, since he says he’d run into a fire to save people or property, perhaps he can run into our burning nuclear silos. /s

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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:12:34am

Trump’s telegraphing his plans to Russia about what he’d do in Syria. This is kayfabe where Russia and Syria both know what’s coming, are prepared for it, and Trump feels like he’s won something when all he’s done is helped Russia out.

Meanwhile, Trump’s continuing to push the GOP extremist agenda by screwing the working class and poor by imposing more restrictions on SNAP aid.

At same time, Ryan’s looking the other way as Nunes and the misnamed Freedom Caucus are looking to go after Trump’s political enemies to deflect from the ongoing scandals and investigations and criminal conduct by officials all across Trumpworld (and extending into Congress).

Ryan’s enabled Nunes instead of giving these complicit cronies of Trump the smackdown they not only deserve, but which is the least he could do since Nunes is probably going to find himself on the wrong side of the law and Mueller before long (alongside Rohrabacher).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:13:48am
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:15:17am

One thing you can do with SNAP that can save you a whole lot of money (if you have time and land) is to buy your own seeds for vegetables.

That said, if your vegetable crop fails, too bad for you.

You are not legally allowed to take any such crops you grow to a farmer’s market though to make extra cash.

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:15:30am

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹

That would be nice; that’s not how politics works.

Looking at their two “about” pages, Mr. Bryce seems to have a bit more experience in the area of public administration, along with Federal experience in bureaucracy (as a veteran).

She’s got the same creds by way of education (teacher for 23 years) rather than military. And she’s won local elections.

“Current role as vice president of the Janesville School Board, to which she was elected in 2013 and reelected in 2016. She’s also been a union member for 23 years, serving as officer, vice president, and president.”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:15:42am

Paul Ryan not seeking re-election has made my day.

And then I read that Trump is warning Russia to be ready for US air strikes?! Didn’t this fucker campaign on not telegraphing our military moves?! I guess he wanted to give them a heads up so they could move their assets like their drone jamming equipment out of danger. SMDH

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Bubblehead II  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:15:59am

re: #116 Belafon

Didn’t “last time” get a couple hundred Russian soldiers killed?

Nope.

According to Russian defense ministry, four soldiers were killed and two soldiers were missing.[44]

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:16:26am

re: #118 Anymouse 🌹

And if demand was higher on farmers’ markets, the prices would go even higher (assuming no more goods are brought to market).

We spend a good portion of the late summer canning things such as fresh corn and tomatoes. How many people in cities even know how to do that?

Roughly the same number of rural people that know how to get around New York via subway.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:17:28am

re: #127 Belafon

Roughly the same number of rural people that know how to get around New York via subway.

You mean there is more to it than “The Bronx is up and the Battery is down”?

;)

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:18:43am

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Mueller and Rosenstein are both Republicans. In fact, Mueller served Republican administrations when you were bragging about your sex life to tabloids. Why the people of your party think you’re a statesman and Mueller the hack just shows you how propaganda from uneducated hacks like Hannity and Jones to even more uneducated idiots works.

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William Lewis  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:19:29am

re: #101 HappyWarrior

He should debate her. That’s a shame.

That refusal to debate is why, if I lived in that district, I’d vote against him. That kind of moral cowardice is too much like Lyin’ Ryan.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:20:00am

re: #124 JordanRules

She’s got the same creds by way of education (teacher for 23 years) rather than military. And she’s won local elections.

“Current role as vice president of the Janesville School Board, to which she was elected in 2013 and reelected in 2016. She’s also been a union member for 23 years, serving as officer, vice president, and president.”

Those would be equivalent credentials. Which one of them announced first to run against Ryan? Being first usually gets you a gain on others.

Politics isn’t a nice game though, even for local offices, hence my comment about if you’re ahead you don’t do debates. That strategy is the same regardless of your party or positions.

The same goes for the person who is behind: That person demands debates as much as possible (since it will raise the person who is trailing’s profile in the election).

No leading candidate is going to give away an advantage if he or she can help it.

I don’t have to do debates, because my town is small enough that I know everyone in it. That said, I wouldn’t give away an advantage either if I am trying to win an election.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:20:06am

re: #128 Feline Fearless Leader

You mean there is more to it than “The Bronx is up and the Battery is down”?

;)

Shit I’m in NYC four times a year and I still don’t get it. I do know WMATA in DC tho.

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Danack  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:20:20am

Former Tennessee Democratic Gov. Phil Bredesen holds a 10-percentage-point lead over Republican U.S. Rep. Marsha Blackburn among state voters in a head-to-head contest for the seat being vacated by retiring U.S. Sen. Bob Corker, according to the latest MTSU Poll.

mtsupoll.org

Tennessee

Tennessee

Possibly an outlier and possibly a really strong candidate for the state, but still an astonishing poll.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:20:38am

re: #127 Belafon

Roughly the same number of rural people that know how to get around New York via subway.

I can’t eat a subway. (I can eat at Subway, but that’s different.)

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:21:51am

re: #128 Feline Fearless Leader

You mean there is more to it than “The Bronx is up and the Battery is down”?

;)

When I went to college in Worcester, I got to where I could travel through Boston via the T. I knew how to go underground where I was and which terminal to come out of. If someone said “Let’s walk,” I would have needed a map.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:21:53am

re: #130 William Lewis

That refusal to debate is why, if I lived in that district, I’d vote against him. That kind of moral cowardice is too much like Lyin’ Ryan.

It makes me think less of him too. I agree with JR, it’s a shame that she’s been forgotten in this race. We have a lot of candidates running here in Va-10.

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Lupin  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:22:58am

re: #95 Anymouse 🌹

Remember though, the USA backed the coup.

en.wikipedia.org

Oh believe me no one has forgotten; I hate to bring in karma, but the fact that the bloody coup took place on 9/11 is an odd coincidence.

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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:23:11am

re: #100 Joe Bacon 🌹

WHOA, NELLIE!

Washington Post alert—Ryan is NOT running for re-election!!!!

Now how many more Republicans are going to be like Brave Sir Robin and cut and run?

I was just logging in to see if anyone had posted that yet. I was checking my email at ATT/Yahoo and Yahoo’s home page had a banner at the top announcing that.

This is big.

Paul Ryan is running away because he doesn’t have the chops to take on Trump and he probably knows he is a dead man walking in his own party.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:25:34am

I did get a quick feel for Munich and Nuremberg’s underground last summer but Berlin was more s challenge just as Madrid was more so than Barcelona and Lisbon.

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:26:44am

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹

They both announced last June, not sure who was first. He blew up because of his viral ad (which was really good).

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:26:48am

re: #137 Lupin

Oh believe me no one has forgotten; I hate to bring in karma, but the fact that the bloody coup took place on 9/11 is an odd coincidence.

We did that coup and then we act shocked that we’re not too popular in that part of the world. A lot of American conservatives defend Pinochet because of economics. Just absurd.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:27:04am

Speaking of New York subways (and bus lines):

New York City Council Speaker Seeks Half-Price Subway Rides for the Poor (Bloomberg)

Such proposals have gained momentum among advocates for the poor during the past year. Mayor Bill de Blasio, a fellow Democrat, supported the idea earlier this year as he proposed a millionaire’s tax that would raise $800 million for mass transit. The half-fares would cost the city about $250 million, de Blasio said.

The program would help about 800,000 New Yorkers save as much as $726 a year, Johnson said. The money would come from rearranging spending proposed earlier this year by the mayor, and increased revenue projections, Johnson said. Eligibility would be determined according to the federal poverty limit, which qualifies families of four earning under $24,000 a year. About 22 percent of the city’s 8.6 million residents live in poverty, he said.

(more)

That’s a lot of Ameros they’re talking about there. My city council quibbles over $50.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:28:29am

There’s another Republican running but nothing on him.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:32:30am

re: #130 William Lewis

That refusal to debate is why, if I lived in that district, I’d vote against him. That kind of moral cowardice is too much like Lyin’ Ryan.

It is not moral cowardice. It is political strategy. That’s how it has always worked.

Looking up more about the two candidates (there were more, but the others have dropped out), Bryce started fundraising and working right after Trump was elected. He’s testified in the state legislature against Walker’s anti-union legislation, &c.

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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:32:58am

By the new McConnell rule since Ryan is on his way out we shouldn’t act on anything he proposes. We should let the voters decide.

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:34:10am
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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:34:39am

re: #115 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. With multiple sources confirming, it looks like Ryan’s running - fleeing - from Congress.

He’s not running again in November, which means there’ll be a scramble for the Speaker’s gavel.

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I posted an article the other day about the early race is between McCarthy and Scalise.

If given a choice, because I hate both and they are Republicans, I’d take McCarthy. He isn’t that strong and sometimes he has bouts of lucidity that Democrats can take advantage of when he is faced with pressure. Also…he is from California, so maybe some of that rubbed off on him.

Scalise is sleazy. Peariod.

But like others…I too hope it is Nancy or another Democrat if Nancy begs off.

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:34:55am

re: #144 Anymouse 🌹

It is not moral cowardice. It is political strategy. That’s how it has always worked.

Looking up more about the two candidates (there were more, but the others have dropped out), Bryce started fundraising and working right after Trump was elected. He’s testified in the state legislature against Walker’s anti-union legislation, &c.

There is a bit of cowardice: He’s afraid to debate because he thinks it might hurt him. The two Democrats who announced to run against Ratcliffe here in Texas not only had a debate, but they showed up at the Rockwall Democratic luncheon to pitch their platforms. A debate wouldn’t hurt him.

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Lupin  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:36:16am

re: #141 HappyWarrior

We did that coup and then we act shocked that we’re not too popular in that part of the world. A lot of American conservatives defend Pinochet because of economics. Just absurd.

At this point, I sincerely believe that of they could get away with it, your alt.right/ fox/pseudo”conservatives”/native nazis would do the same thing to liberals in the US than Pinochet did in Chile.

November can’t come too soon. It’s an existential fight.

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:36:33am

People are always arguing that Democrats need to do more than run against Republicans. Bryce should be held to that standard.

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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:36:46am

re: #142 Anymouse 🌹

The NYC budget is bigger than half the states in the US. In fact, NYC population by itself is bigger than nearly 3/4 of the states.

NYC has a population of more than 8 million, and that means more people live there than Washington State but less than Virginia. - that’s 13th out of 50 states. It’s got more people living there than a bunch of states combined (think the bottom 6).

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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:37:14am

re: #148 Belafon

There is a bit of cowardice: He’s afraid to debate because he thinks it might hurt him. The two Democrats who announced to run against Ratcliffe here in Texas not only had a debate, but they showed up at the Rockwall Democratic luncheon to pitch their platforms. A debate wouldn’t hurt him.

Rick Perry refused to debate Bill White at all and got away with it.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:37:47am

re: #148 Belafon

There is a bit of cowardice: He’s afraid to debate because he thinks it might hurt him. The two Democrats who announced to run against Ratcliffe here in Texas not only had a debate, but they showed up at the Rockwall Democratic luncheon to pitch their platforms. A debate wouldn’t hurt him.

It’s a much bigger scale but Northam debated Perriello here despite the fact that Tom didn’t declare he was running until 2017. I think it’s cowardice. I still think he’s a much better candidate than Ryan was or Nehlen or the other GOPer would be.

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:38:47am

re: #149 Lupin

At this point, I sincerely believe that of they could get away with it, your alt.right/ fox/pseudo”conservatives”/native nazis would do the same thing to liberals in the US than Pinochet did in Chile.

November can’t come too soon. It’s an existential fight.

The big difference is Trump didn’t win because of the popular vote. He won on a fluke of our constitution. And, then, finally, people went “shit.” We also have the advantage that our economy doesn’t look like any of those countries where major shakeups occur. Ours was entirely racism related.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:38:52am

re: #146 JordanRules

That’s the kind of thing that would put Mr. Bryce in a squeeze (and possibly get him to a debate).

Press: Question, Mr. Bryce, why won’t you attend this event?

At the same time it raises Ms. Myers’s profile, being at a public event that right now is at the forefront of a lot of voters minds.

If the event works for her, it will raise her in the polling. If she gains momentum, then Mr. Bryce is left trying to decide if a debate is worthwhile after all.

Mostly debates are public spectacles though. Romney won his first debate against Obama not because he had better ideas but because he engaged in a Gish Gallop.

What we don’t need is “well, he wouldn’t engage in a debate with her and he won the primary, so I’m not going to vote for him” purity nonsense when he is engaging in standard political strategy for any candidate. That gets us the Nazi.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:40:01am

re: #148 Belafon

There is a bit of cowardice: He’s afraid to debate because he thinks it might hurt him. The two Democrats who announced to run against Ratcliffe here in Texas not only had a debate, but they showed up at the Rockwall Democratic luncheon to pitch their platforms. A debate wouldn’t hurt him.

How close were they to each other in the polling before the debate?

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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:40:58am

Oh, and Dershowitz was saying he didn’t provide legal advice to Trump? He might not be Trump’s lawyer, but he’s sure acting like he is.

What the fuck was that he said to Trump about not to testify if not legal advice?

Telling Trump not to testify is legal advice even if it’s free (and it’s actually sound legal advice at that - Trump should STFU to avoid further criminal liabilities, but we all know Trump will never shut up).

Trump always thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room and knows more and better than his lawyers. He also is so egotistical and vain that he’s going to show everyone how much he knows and will put himself in legal jeopardy as a result.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:40:59am

re: #154 Belafon

The big difference is Trump didn’t win because of the popular vote. He won on a fluke of our constitution. And, then, finally, people went “shit.” We also have the advantage that our economy doesn’t look like any of those countries where major shakeups occur. Ours was entirely racism related.

A lot of conservative nationalists are writing approvingly of Viktor Orban’s victory in Hungary, where the last non-government controlled newspaper just went out of business.

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:41:01am

re: #155 Anymouse 🌹

William meant not vote for him in the primary not the general.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:41:19am

re: #146 JordanRules

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And that’s disappointing. The article notes that Bryce correctly called out Ryan for not attending town halls. He should do the same thing. I like the guy but damn man.

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Jay C  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:41:34am

re: #116 Belafon

Didn’t “last time” get a couple hundred Russian soldiers killed?

I believe you’re thinking of another incident in Syria a month ago or so: a force of Russian “volunteers” (i.e., mercenaries) and their local allies blundered into an attack - they were trying to seize an oilfield bad intel had told them was undefended - and US-backed forces (with some Americans helping, IIRC) blew them away in wholesale lots.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:42:25am

re: #159 JordanRules

William meant not vote for him in the primary not the general.

My mistake, and my apologies then. I miscombubulated what he wrote.

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:42:25am

re: #152 bill d. (b.d.)

Rick Perry refused to debate Bill White at all and got away with it.

Oh, believe me, I know. I lived through that. He was a coward, too.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:44:48am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:45:28am

re: #155 Anymouse 🌹

That’s the kind of thing that would put Mr. Bryce in a squeeze (and possibly get him to a debate).

Press: Question, Mr. Bryce, why won’t you attend this event?

At the same time it raises Ms. Myers’s profile, being at a public event that right now is at the forefront of a lot of voters minds.

If the event works for her, it will raise her in the polling. If she gains momentum, then Mr. Bryce is left trying to decide if a debate is worthwhile after all.

Mostly debates are public spectacles though. Romney won his first debate against Obama not because he had better ideas but because he engaged in a Gish Gallop.

What we don’t need is “well, he wouldn’t engage in a debate with her and he won the primary, so I’m not going to vote for him” purity nonsense when he is engaging in standard political strategy for any candidate. That gets us the Nazi.

Dude he’s as qualified as her. The primary reason he leads now is name recon. Why not debate her or attend a town hall, it makes him look hypocritical to rightfully blast Ryan and then not attend one. You’re entitled to think he’s a better candidate but he should have to go through the aches and pains of being a candidate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:46:05am
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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:46:32am

re: #144 Anymouse 🌹

It is not moral cowardice. It is political strategy. That’s how it has always worked.

Looking up more about the two candidates (there were more, but the others have dropped out), Bryce started fundraising and working right after Trump was elected. He’s testified in the state legislature against Walker’s anti-union legislation, &c.

You are correct he doesn’t have to debate.

But you are leaving out something very big in your political method debate with others.

Impression.

They way she is going about it is really making him look bad…and that does leave an impression, politically correct or not.

And if he is selling himself as a big tough working man’s man, not debating a woman leaves a bad impression. And that may work against him with women voters and even many men. They may question how tough is he, and can he stand up to Trump and Republicans.

Want some examples?

They are right here at LGF.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:49:55am

Morning Lizardim.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:50:49am

re: #167 ObserverArt

You are correct he doesn’t have to debate.

But you are leaving out something very big in your political method debate with others.

Impression.

They way she is going about it is really making him look bad…and that does leave an impression, politically correct or not.

And if he is selling himself as a big tough working man’s man, not debating a woman leaves a bad impression. And that may work against him with women voters and even many men. They may question how tough is he, and can he stand up to Trump and Republicans.

Want some examples?

They are right here at LGF.

Exactly.

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William Lewis  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:50:56am

re: #144 Anymouse 🌹

It is not moral cowardice. It is political strategy. That’s how it has always worked.

Looking up more about the two candidates (there were more, but the others have dropped out), Bryce started fundraising and working right after Trump was elected. He’s testified in the state legislature against Walker’s anti-union legislation, &c.

Call it that all you want. It shows what he’s made of and it’s no better than Lyin’ Ryan. < shrug > I have a better candidate up here so I don’t have to worry about it.

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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:52:01am

re: #157 lawhawk

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Oh, and Dershowitz was saying he didn’t provide legal advice to Trump? He might not be Trump’s lawyer, but he’s sure acting like he is.

What the fuck was that he said to Trump about not to testify if not legal advice?

That is Dershowitz flapping his jaw for some attention is what that is. Dershowitz has a huge ego and loves to hear himself talk. If Trump mentions him and does follow a bit that feeds that ego.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:54:05am

re: #163 Belafon

Oh, believe me, I know. I lived through that. He was a coward, too.

Well, I’m not going to convince anyone I guess of the difference between cowardice (not showing up for town halls to meet your constituents) and debates (not giving away an advantage in an election through a misstep or fumbled answer).

There is a lot more strategy to an election than kissing hands and shaking babies. Where you go for events. When to jump out and say something versus when you don’t say anything at all.

Back on March 1, Ms. Myers proposed six debates with Mr. Bryce. (Remember, the opposite party’s candidate can take advantage of debates as well.) Even presidents only do three.

Debates also cost money. Unless there are a lot of rich people in WI-01 who want to pay for debates, the candidates have to do that. That’s money that can be spent against the other party.

I can’t say which tactics would work there, but the strategy of a political campaign is to win.

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:55:46am

Might be our teachers turn to walk out next.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:57:46am

re: #80 bill d. (b.d.)

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Mobile airfields?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:58:23am

re: #172 Anymouse 🌹

Coward = Paul Ryan, who is refusing to run because he knows he would get spanked in November.

I think I’m split on the “strategy” part of declining debate, though. Yeah, it’s smart not to debate an opponent you’re already beating, but that can be publicized to give a bad impression of cowardice. I wonder how that factors into the political calculus.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:59:01am

lol

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 6:59:28am

Rep. Lieu trolling Republicans …

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:00:09am

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

lol

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The tax bill, the bow tax cut, & the post office named after his predecessor.

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:00:15am

re: #167 ObserverArt

You are correct he doesn’t have to debate.

But you are leaving out something very big in your political method debate with others.

Impression.

They way she is going about it is really making him look bad…and that does leave an impression, politically correct or not.

And if he is selling himself as a big tough working man’s man, not debating a woman leaves a bad impression. And that may work against him with women voters and even many men. They may question how tough is he, and can he stand up to Trump and Republicans.

Want some examples?

They are right here at LGF.

And he’s going to need all the Democrats he can get on his side, no matter who he runs against. He’s going to need her help if he wins, and she’s not going to care as much if he doesn’t treat her as a political equal.

Which does make me wonder what he would do if she won.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:01:37am

re: #175 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Coward = Paul Ryan, who is refusing to run because he knows he would get spanked in November.

I think I’m split on the “strategy” part of declining debate, though. Yeah, it’s smart not to debate an opponent you’re already beating, but that can be publicized to give a bad impression of cowardice. I wonder how that factors into the political calculus.

Well if I were a voter in WI-01, it would be disappointing because I’d want to see how the candidate would respond to difficult questions.

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:01:42am

re: #172 Anymouse 🌹

Well, I’m not going to convince anyone I guess of the difference between cowardice (not showing up for town halls to meet your constituents) and debates (not giving away an advantage in an election through a misstep or fumbled answer).

There is a lot more strategy to an election than kissing hands and shaking babies. Where you go for events. When to jump out and say something versus when you don’t say anything at all.

Back on March 1, Ms. Myers proposed six debates with Mr. Bryce. (Remember, the opposite party’s candidate can take advantage of debates as well.) Even presidents only do three.

Debates also cost money. Unless there are a lot of rich people in WI-01 who want to pay for debates, the candidates have to do that. That’s money that can be spent against the other party.

I can’t say which tactics would work there, but the strategy of a political campaign is to win.

Yep. What’s his strategy on winning the general, hoping that Democrats will go out and vote for him because he’s not the Republican?

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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:03:28am
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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:05:39am
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dangerman  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:06:24am

re: #27 Single-handed sailor

I went out to the garage to get a Coke and found the water heater leaking, 2018 just keeps sucking more.

we bugged out for the hurricane last fall and came back to a leaking water heater and a bit of a flood - which insurance is claiming they dont cover (on top of the hurricane damage)

good times indeed

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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:07:06am

re: #172 Anymouse 🌹

Well, I’m not going to convince anyone I guess of the difference between cowardice (not showing up for town halls to meet your constituents) and debates (not giving away an advantage in an election through a misstep or fumbled answer).

There is a lot more strategy to an election than kissing hands and shaking babies. Where you go for events. When to jump out and say something versus when you don’t say anything at all.

Back on March 1, Ms. Myers proposed six debates with Mr. Bryce. (Remember, the opposite party’s candidate can take advantage of debates as well.) Even presidents only do three.

Debates also cost money. Unless there are a lot of rich people in WI-01 who want to pay for debates, the candidates have to do that. That’s money that can be spent against the other party.

I can’t say which tactics would work there, but the strategy of a political campaign is to win.

Pounding on a point doesn’t make it right…or wrong.

No one is saying you are wrong.

What they are saying is it looks bad. Maybe that doesn’t fit in the great book of political strategy, but it is a factor.

Are you denying that?

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:09:37am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:09:45am

re: #183 lawhawk

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:09:48am

re: #185 ObserverArt

Pounding on a point doesn’t make it right…or wrong.

No one is saying you are wrong.

What they are saying is it looks bad. Maybe that doesn’t fit in the great book of political strategy, but it is a factor.

Are you denying that?

Thanks. It’s a subjective opinion. I don’t think I said he should be required to debate her but I do think he should debate her for the good of the electorate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:10:19am
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:13:51am

re: #181 Belafon

Yep. What’s his strategy on winning the general, hoping that Democrats will go out and vote for him because he’s not the Republican?

I can’t say what he would do or not do … nor his campaign manager.

Ideally there would be a debate (but six seems awfully excessive to me). And impression does matter as much (or more) than policy positions or experience (that’s how we got Trump).

I do know if Ms. Myers keeps showing up at high-profile events and they do move the polling meter in her favour, Mr. Bryce would likely reconsider a debate (but then she might choose not to have one).

That’s why political strategists make the big bucks.

I can’t even get my state party to list me on our state Democratic candidate list of every Democratic candidate in Nebraska (we’re running over six hundred candidates in this election). They’re still ignoring me as they have the whole time I’ve held office. (Apparently the Dems think it might be bad strategy to have my name on the candidate Website with the other six hundred and the office they’re running for.)

The county party (such as it is) doesn’t return my calls.

Those decisions are not up to me, and I suppose I could make hay of it publicly if I wanted, but I don’t want to hurt my party’s chances in local elections. I’ll complain here, but not in the papers or on the radio.

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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:13:52am

YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE A MEMBER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES TO BE SPEAKER, WE SHOULD LET SHERIFF CLARKE DO IT!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:14:57am

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:16:56am

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

I thought conservatives didn’t believe in evolution? /s

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:17:02am
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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:17:11am

lol, Freepers please never change.

How about Rep. Louis Gomert as Speaker

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:18:50am

re: #195 bill d. (b.d.)

lol, Freepers please never change.

How about Rep. Louis Gomert as Speaker

Could be worse, we could get Alex Jones or Jim Hoft.

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dangerman  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:19:09am

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Part of a bigger issue, namely that we have a food industry that does not concern itself with health and a health-care industry that does not concern itself with nutrition.

Michael Pollan writes a lot on food and points out that the lowest possible margin for food producers is from selling us healthy, wholesome & organic products that we prepare ourselves.

The highest margin comes from selling us highly processed products made from bulk corn and wheat with some with added chemicals tossed in for flavor.

So what do we expect to see the market flooded with?

pollan makes it so easy:

Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.
If it needs a brand or has “ingredients” it’s not food.
(If your grandmother wouldn’t recognize it, it’s not food.)

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:20:58am

This is self-own adjacent.
This your party Ana, thanks for the reminder I guess.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:21:05am

Lre: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It didn’t evolve. You’re out of office and not beholdened to extremists but I will say this, of Newt, Hasert, himself, & Ryan, he is the most decent person. And yes I’m damning with faint praise.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:21:57am

re: #198 JordanRules

This is self-own adjacent.
This your party Anna, thanks for the reminder I guess.

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Yep. I like Anna but she threw her lot in with these guys.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:22:31am

re: #195 bill d. (b.d.)

lol, Freepers please never change.

How about Rep. Louis Gomert as Speaker

Haha

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:23:29am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:23:39am
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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:24:06am

OMG! SO MUCH WINNING!!

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mmmirele  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:24:12am

Entertaining myself this morning (taking a break because it’s cold out there and the thing really doesn’t get started until 1 pm)

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:24:54am

I’m off to bed. Need to go into town this afternoon with a water sample so I probably ought to get a little sleep …

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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:25:03am

re: #195 bill d. (b.d.)

lol, Freepers please never change.

How about Rep. Louis Gomert as Speaker

Oh boy…you said the magic words for me to get this photoshop out. I did this back when Johnny B. retired and some were floating crazy Gohmert for House Speaker.

Crank ‘em up!

Gohmert House Speakers - Model 2015 System
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:26:10am

re: #197 dangerman

pollan makes it so easy:

Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.
If it needs a brand or has “ingredients” it’s not food.
(If your grandmother wouldn’t recognize it, it’s not food.)

His other point is that there is only so much food humans can eat in a year, no matter how hard they try. So there is pressure on food producers to raise the margins on what they sell because there is an upper limit on volume.

And if they can take a package of industrially harvested wheat and mix it with some industrially mass-produced whey by-products and bulk chemicals, they are going to be able to make a lot more per unit than by selling us fresh pasta and cheese.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:27:26am

re: #208 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

His other point is that there is only so much food humans can eat in a year, no matter how hard they try. So there is pressure on food producers to raise the margins on what they sell because there is an upper limit on volume.

And if they can take a package of industrially harvested wheat and mix it with some industrially mass-produced whey by-products and bulk chemicals, they are going to be able to make a lot more per unit than by selling us fresh pasta and cheese.

Fresh pasta? Do you grow or ranch that? /s

Nighty night y’all.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:30:07am
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:30:13am

re: #88 Anymouse 🌹

Iron Stache v. Nazi? I wonder how that would come out if Axios is correct?

The GOP is already running a Nazi in Illinois.

Running Nazis ought to be a plain ol’ good fear motivator to get liberals out to vote, and get some moderate both-siderists off the fence.

The GOP was actually running no one in that district — which allowed a Nazi to win the GOP nomination. Parties don’t really have control of who can run in a primary, assuming they meet the qualifications which normally involves getting a certain number of signatures. It reflects on the people of the district willing to vote for him, more than the party.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:33:34am

re: #211 Hecuba’s daughter

The GOP was actually running no one in that district — which allowed a Nazi to win the GOP nomination. Parties don’t really have control of who can run in a primary, assuming they meet the qualifications which normally involves getting a certain number of signatures. It reflects on the people of the district willing to vote for him, more than the party.

Remember Lyndon LaRouche in Illinois? He is still a right-wing cult hero

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:33:43am

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:34:12am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:36:51am

oh

SPRINGFIELD, Ohio (AP) — Police in Ohio say a dog ate a woman’s stash of pot, leading her to attack two other women because the dog’s owner refused to pay for the marijuana.

Springfield police say 20-year-old Desarae Smith was arrested on Monday and charged with assault. Clark County Municipal Court records don’t list an attorney for her.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:37:30am
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Weaselone  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:38:06am

re: #193 Anymouse 🌹

I thought conservatives didn’t believe in evolution? /s

With Gold all things are possible.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:38:56am

I find the “battle ships” bit extremely annoying.

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Archangelus  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:40:38am

When it rains, it pours (GOP edition - the more the merrier):

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:41:09am

Damnet this is dangerous.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:44:11am

re: #111 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

fewer pesticides and chemical residues in the food, and yes, indirect health benefits through less environmental impact.

The “fewer pesticides and chemical residues in the food” is a meaningless statement used by moonbats. There are no safety concerns with the regulated “pesticides and chemicals” used in modern food production. However, the chemicals and pesticides used on organic foods are not regulated in the same way and, as such, have much less safety data associated with those pesticides and chemicals. Also, the environment impact of the chemical fertilizers and chemically derived pesticides are well studied and have no impact that is considered to be harmful.

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I cannot.  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:46:01am

re: #218 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Not only is it “battleships”, the last battleship was decommissioned in 1992.

And also…is anyone feeling a bit 1914-ish right now? Like we’re just a couple of really, REALLY stupid mistakes from things going out of control?

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:46:13am

re: #208 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

His other point is that there is only so much food humans can eat in a year, no matter how hard they try. So there is pressure on food producers to raise the margins on what they sell because there is an upper limit on volume.

And if they can take a package of industrially harvested wheat and mix it with some industrially mass-produced whey by-products and bulk chemicals, they are going to be able to make a lot more per unit than by selling us fresh pasta and cheese.

It’s cheap for a machine to make a million versions of something that save me a half an hour to an hour to put together (and forget anything taking longer than that). I’m willing to pay a bit for that for the time. But, in a lot of cases, I’m not only saving time, but saving money. When you buy the ingredients needed to make a particular meal, you generally can’t buy just enough to make your meal, you end up with a lot more, which don’t get used and then go bad. So, between time and money, it works out a lot cheaper for me to buy a premade meal.

And, before anyone chimes in, no, I do not care for cooking that much. I want to get done in the kitchen and then get out of it.

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darthstar  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:52:12am
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darthstar  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:56:05am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:56:15am

re: #222 I cannot.

Not only is it “battleships”, the last battleship was decommissioned in 1992.

And also…is anyone feeling a bit 1914-ish right now? Like we’re just a couple of really, REALLY stupid mistakes from things going out of control?

The last Russoan/Soviet “battleship” was the Novorossiysk (nee Italian battleship Giulio Cesare) which sank at anchor in Sevastopol in 1955, from a suspected WWII mine, and later salvaged for scrap

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 11, 2018 • 7:57:47am

re: #226 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The last Russoan/Soviet “battleship” was the Novorossiysk (nee Italian battleship Giulio Cesare) which sank at anchor in Sevastopol in 1955, from a suspected WWII mine, and later salvaged for scrap

“You sunk my battleship.”

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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:00:31am

re: #225 darthstar

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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:05:13am

re: #218 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Journalists and media outlets that can’t tell difference between an APC and a tank.

Why expect them to know difference between a destroyer, frigate, cruiser, or a battleship?

When in doubt, just call them warships.

Battle ship? That’s an odd use. Battleships haven’t been deployed by any country since the 1991 Gulf War. All remaining US battleships were decommissioned thereafter.

No other country has any active battleships either.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:10:09am

Now this looks like some good summer B-movie fun - well, unless sharks give you the heebie-jeebies.

THE MEG Official Trailer (2018) Jason Statham, Giant Shark Movie HD

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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:10:52am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:13:45am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:20:09am

re: #223 Belafon

It’s cheap for a machine to make a million versions of something that save me a half an hour to an hour to put together (and forget anything taking longer than that). I’m willing to pay a bit for that for the time. But, in a lot of cases, I’m not only saving time, but saving money. When you buy the ingredients needed to make a particular meal, you generally can’t buy just enough to make your meal, you end up with a lot more, which don’t get used and then go bad. So, between time and money, it works out a lot cheaper for me to buy a premade meal.

And, before anyone chimes in, no, I do not care for cooking that much. I want to get done in the kitchen and then get out of it.

That is a cultural aspect. And a matter of personal choice. And one that I also have to consider on a regular basis as I live on my own these days and have nobody to cook for unless I have guests or my kids are visiting.

I try to compromise by cooking big batches and freezing the leftovers for a later date. And I try to keep things as fresh and whole as possible for reasons of health and flavor.

I recall seeing some frozen paella on sale at the supermarket and thought, well, that sounds healthy: fish, chicken, rice and vegetables. Then I looked at the ingredients and found that one serving contained nearly a whole day’s RDA of salt and decided to leave it.

I find it personally a shame to look on food and cooking as wasted time rather than an enjoyable and enriching past time. And I guess I need to find another girlfriend I can cook for on a regular basis, but that is also a matter of personal choice…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:20:42am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:21:57am

re: #222 I cannot.

Not only is it “battleships”, the last battleship was decommissioned in 1992.

And also…is anyone feeling a bit 1914-ish right now? Like we’re just a couple of really, REALLY stupid mistakes from things going out of control?

people throw fits over the distinction between “assault weapon” vs “assault rifle” and cannot distinguish between “warship” and “battleship”.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:22:33am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:23:40am

re: #236 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“We don’t take part in Twitter diplomacy. We are supporters of serious approaches,” Kremlin’s Dmitry Peskov tells Bloomberg’s

That is some serious shade-throwing

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:24:18am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:25:07am

re: #238 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

FTC makes clear ‘warranty void if removed’ stickers are illegal (engadget)

do not remove this tag under penalty of law

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Jay C  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:25:18am

re: #235 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

people throw fits over the distinction between “assault weapon” vs “assault rifle” and cannot distinguish between “warship” and “battleship”.

If you could buy warships at the local sporting-goods store, I’m sure those people would learn the difference PDQ. If only to argue against “liberal battleship-grabbers” on the Internet…

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Teukka  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:28:57am

re: #236 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:31:52am
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Dr. Matt  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:31:56am

GOP Congressman Rips Trump in Insane Tirade to Journo: ‘Evil, Really F*cking Stupid Forrest Gump’

This strange — but insane — tale begins with Erick Erickson wandering the aisles of a Safeway supermarket. He’s accompanied by a Republican congressman who regularly appears on Fox News to defend President Donald Trump.

“If we’re going to lose because of him, we might as well impeach the motherfucker,” the unnamed congressman told Erickson.

[…]

And then, the congressman got colorful:

It’s like Forrest Gump won the presidency, but an evil, really fucking stupid Forrest Gump. He can’t help himself. He’s just a fucking idiot who thinks he’s winning when people are bitching about him. He really does see the world as ratings and attention. I hate Forrest Gump. I listen to your podcast and heard you hate it too. What an overrated piece of shit movie. Can you believe it beat the Shawshank Redemption?”

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:32:12am

re: #84 JordanRules

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So in other words, “My inside polling of the situation shows I am going to get my ass handed to me.”.

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:32:59am

re: #233 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s not wasted time, but, personally, I’m as interested in cooking as I am in taking care of my yard.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:34:48am
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Eventual Carrion  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:38:32am

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹

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To tRump Putin is not the enemy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:40:37am

re: #245 Belafon

It’s not wasted time, but, personally, I’m as interested in cooking as I am in taking care of my yard.

again, a matter of personal choice, I always enjoyed working outside.

for that I do not care for professional sports or anything involving automobiles

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darthstar  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:42:30am
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Dr. Matt  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:42:48am

After dubyah ended up being a complete and total failure, GOP cabana boys made excuses for his failure claiming he wasn’t a “true conservative”. I can’t wait to hear the excuses from the Trump Nazis……

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:43:08am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember Lyndon LaRouche in Illinois? He is still a right-wing cult hero

Of course. It was thanks to his party which ran candidates who won contested elections that Democrats lost races in the fall. The Democratic primary voters voted against the establishment candidates in the primary — and did not realize who they voted for. I didn’t vote in those races. This is why I never just vote against someone — I have to know a little about the person I am voting for.

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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:43:30am

re: #233 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is a cultural aspect. And a matter of personal choice. And one that I also have to consider on a regular basis as I live on my own these days and have nobody to cook for unless I have guests or my kids are visiting.

I try to compromise by cooking big batches and freezing the leftovers for a later date. And I try to keep things as fresh and whole as possible for reasons of health and flavor.

I recall seeing some frozen paella on sale at the supermarket and thought, well, that sounds healthy: fish, chicken, rice and vegetables. Then I looked at the ingredients and found that one serving contained nearly a whole day’s RDA of salt and decided to leave it.

I find it personally a shame to look on food and cooking as wasted time rather than an enjoyable and enriching past time. And I guess I need to find another girlfriend I can cook for on a regular basis, but that is also a matter of personal choice…

I had an old boss that used to ask people that said they didn’t like to cook: “Do you like to eat?

Repsonse: “Sure”

“Then you should like to cook.”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:43:57am

re: #243 Dr. Matt

GOP Congressman Rips Trump in Insane Tirade to Journo: ‘Evil, Really F*cking Stupid Forrest Gump’

I would love to know who this is. Too bad he didn’t want to be identified.

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Archangelus  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:44:07am
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darthstar  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:44:15am
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gocart mozart  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:44:52am
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Belafon  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:45:23am

re: #252 ObserverArt

I had an old boss that used to ask people that said they didn’t like to cook: “Do you like to eat?

Repsonse: “Sure”

“Then you should like to cook.”

“Do you like your computer? Then you should learn to code.”
“Do you like your hot bath? Then you should become a plumber.”

That’s why I pay others.

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:46:53am

re: #255 darthstar

There’s normal vote counting, and then there’s Republican voting counting. A bill protecting Mueller could pass, but it wouldn’t pass with a majority of Republican votes. They’re using the Hastert Rule to block it.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:47:09am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

I would love to know who this is. Too bad he didn’t want to be identified.

Same here.

Also, love to see a movie with this guy.

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darthstar  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:47:10am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:47:50am

re: #252 ObserverArt

I had an old boss that used to ask people that said they didn’t like to cook: “Do you like to eat?

Repsonse: “Sure”

“Then you should like to cook.”

Or have a wife/husband/partner who does.

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:48:26am

Not sure what that gets us but okay Jeff.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:49:54am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

I would love to know who this is. Too bad he didn’t want to be identified.

Typical GOP cowards.

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darthstar  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:50:55am

re: #258 Belafon

There’s normal vote counting, and then there’s Republican voting counting. A bill protecting Mueller could pass, but it wouldn’t pass with a majority of Republican votes. They’re using the Hastert Rule to block it.

Now called the child molester rule?

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darthstar  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:51:13am

re: #262 JordanRules

Not sure what that gets us but okay Jeff.

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He’s such a flake.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:52:24am

re: #258 Belafon

There’s normal vote counting, and then there’s Republican voting counting. A bill protecting Mueller could pass, but it wouldn’t pass with a majority of Republican votes. They’re using the Hastert Rule to block it.

They continue to support a rule instituted by a pedophile. But then their support of Roy Moore and the overwhelming vote he received from Republicans show they don’t care.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:53:01am

re: #262 JordanRules

Not sure what that gets us but okay Jeff.

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It would mean more Jeff if you weren’t leaving your seat because you fear being replaced by someone who won’t have that same confidence.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:53:13am

re: #257 Belafon

“Do you like your computer? Then you should learn to code.”
“Do you like your hot bath? Then you should become a plumber.”

That’s why I pay others.

Those are all valid points, but in very few cultures was coding or plumbing ever looked upon as a creative, rewarding or entertaining social and cultural activity. And I feel it is a shame that tradition is getting buried in a society that is always in a hurry to get somewhere.

Of course, I come from an Eastern European immigrant family for whom even Sunday dinner, not to mention Christmas and especially Easter, were major epicurean events, even marathons.

I also came to enjoy doing things like that for the holidays and special occasions.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:54:00am

re: #263 Dr. Matt

Typical GOP cowards.

No doubt. Well we know it’s someone on FNC often and in a very Republican district. You know, I’m going to throw it out there but how about Gaetz?

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Archangelus  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:54:36am
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jaunte  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:54:55am
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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:55:46am

re: #257 Belafon

“Do you like your computer? Then you should learn to code.”
“Do you like your hot bath? Then you should become a plumber.”

That’s why I pay others.

You sure are putting up a fight over cooking. : )

Do those others care what your are eating? That is the big thing for me.

Since I don’t have to eat lunches out on the job anymore, and I can get a good breakfast, I sure feel better.

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fern01  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:55:54am

White House to Ryan: trump trying to start WWIII this morning. Can you do something that Fox will report to turn him down another path

Ryan: I can resign

White House: Great move. trump thinks he can name your replacement, or dissolve congress, or announce a state of emergency. I’ll call Fox with some ideas they can talk about.

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stpaulbear  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:56:13am

I’m looking forward to the next House undoing Paul Ryan’s legacy.

He’s actually done very little, but what he’s done has seriously hurt 99% of all Americans.

And he’s so damned proud of it.

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jaunte  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:56:48am
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:58:09am

The “sane” and “somewhat sane” Republicans are retiring, leaving their party to racists, religious fanatics and Putinists. If there isn’t an overwhelming blue wave in November, our country will never survive this. Putin will be running the world unless Xi takes him out and assumes his rightful place as ruler of the planet. But we will be irrelevant and worse, dominated by an evil cabal.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:58:10am

re: #271 jaunte

Satellite photos of Russian naval base in Tartus, Syria show all 11 Russian battle ships have left Syria (Pictures: ImageSat International

sloppy, but I can accept that: “Battleship” is a designation for a class of warships with a certain tonnage and armaments, “battle ship” is a ship intended to take part in a battle.

just like “chicken shit” is poultry excrement but a “chickenshit” is a useless bungling coward

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Dr. Matt  Apr 11, 2018 • 8:59:17am

re: #274 stpaulbear

I’m looking forward to the next House undoing Paul Ryan’s legacy.

He’s actually done very little, but what he’s done has seriously hurt 99% of all Americans.

And he’s so damned proud of it.

He’s a little shitstain who spent his entire adult life, including his college years, obsessing over “entitlement” spending for our most vulnerable. He isn’t a “wonk”. He’s a fucking sociopath.

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:00:03am

Stupid asshole!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:00:42am

This meme is even more prescient for 2018.

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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:00:50am

re: #271 jaunte

They all left… and with it the evidence of their involvement in the gassing of Syrians and other sensitive weapons/materials/personnel involved in the ongoing fighting.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:03:29am

re: #279 JordanRules

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Stupid asshole!

Such bravery.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:03:42am

re: #274 stpaulbear

I’m looking forward to the next House undoing Paul Ryan’s legacy.

He’s actually done very little, but what he’s done has seriously hurt 99% of all Americans.

And he’s so damned proud of it.

Even if we are fortunate enough to get a Democratic House and Senate, Trump or Pence will never sign legislation undoing any of the GOP “accomplishments”. The only thing that they can prevent — and that’s a big one — is the approval of extremist judges. Of course, if Nancy becomes our first female President, then good things will break out everywhere, but I’m not holding my breath.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:04:26am

I don’t want to be a partisan but man the right makes it too easy.

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:05:08am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:05:47am

re: #279 JordanRules

If only there’d been anyone out there saying what would happen. People who study the economy. We could call them something like ‘Economists’.

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BeachDem  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:07:40am

re: #279 JordanRules

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Stupid asshole!

And then he endorses an even bigger and stupider asshole to succeed him, Marsha Blackburn.

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:08:28am

re: #286 Blind Frog Belly White

If only there’d been anyone out there saying what would happen. People who study the economy. We could call them something like ‘Economists’.

Indeed! And don’t forget it’s even worse than that. Those fuckers didn’t even read their janky bill and were scrambling and scribbling modifications in the margins just to beat procedural deadlines and such. Disgusting.

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:08:44am

re: #272 ObserverArt

You sure are putting up a fight over cooking. : )

Do those others care what your are eating? That is the big thing for me.

Since I don’t have to eat lunches out on the job anymore, and I can get a good breakfast, I sure feel better.

I know. About all I was really saying was that I don’t care about cooking, and there are those who just don’t have time for cooking the way some do. The quote from the boss saying “then you should like cooking” reminded me of the “what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger” quote, which doesn’t quite work with amputation. I have zero problem with people loving to cook. My maternal grandmother did, and my dad does. My son’s seem to have picked up the gene, which is good. My attempt to make something different quickly runs into “Why is this taking so long?”

I also hate trips. I will be so glad when teleporters are invented.

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BeachDem  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:09:29am

re: #280 Eclectic Cyborg

This meme is even more prescient for 2018.

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Somebody sent me this—I haven’t tried it yet.

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fern01  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:11:34am

re: #289 Belafon

I know. About all I was really saying was that I don’t care about cooking, and there are those who just don’t have time for cooking the way some do. The quote from the boss saying “then you should like cooking” reminded me of the “what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger” quote, which doesn’t quite work with amputation. I have zero problem with people loving to cook. My maternal grandmother did, and my dad does. My son’s seem to have picked up the gene, which is good. My attempt to make something different quickly runs into “Why is this taking so long?”

I also hate trips. I will be so glad when teleporters are invented.

I could have written this post - especially the last sentence.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:11:47am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:12:03am

re: #277 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

sloppy, but I can accept that: “Battleship” is a designation for a certain class of warships with a certain tonnage and armaments, “battle ship” is a ship intended to take part in a battle.

just like “chicken shit” is poultry excrement but a “chickenshit” is a useless bungling coward

Ain’t English grand? And, by grand, I mean really fucking annoying.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:12:32am

re: #290 BeachDem

Do you really like the sound of “President Mike Pence”?

that is the depressing part

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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:13:07am
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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:13:21am

Man, I glance through the posts this morning, and things just aren’t normal any more.

re: #143 HappyWarrior

There’s another Republican running but nothing on him.

re: #129 HappyWarrior

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

… when you were bragging about your sex life to tabloids. ….

Not to mention the local news, in which a [female] teacher ‘got off with probation for having sex with a [male] student’…

I’d say ‘wake me when it’s over’, but I ain’t going to sleep.

(Happy, I only pick on you because you did nothing wrong, and you’re the fastest damn typist we have and you NEVER do anything wrong.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:14:16am

re: #293 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Ain’t English grand? And, by grand, I mean really fucking annoying.

at a linguistic convention a speaker pointed out that in many languages, a double negative was seen as a positive but in no language did a double positive count as a negative

to which a voice in the back of the room responded “Yeah, right!”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:14:42am

re: #296 wrenchwench

Man, I glance through the posts this morning, and things just aren’t normal any more.

Not to mention the local news, in which a [female] teacher ‘got off with probation for having sex with a [male] student’…

I’d say ‘wake me when it’s over’, but I ain’t going to sleep.

(Happy, I only pick on you because you did nothing wrong, and you’re the fastest damn typist we have and you NEVER do anything wrong.)

Ha, all good. I do take pride in my typing speed.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:15:23am

re: #295 lawhawk

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Wish Trump knew a floor that low.

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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:16:39am

re: #297 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

at a linguistic convention a speaker pointed out that in many languages, a double negative was seen as a positive but in no language did a double positive count as a negative

to which a voice in the back of the room responded “Yeah, right!”

My brother the translator told me that one. I think he was at that convention.

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:17:15am

re: #293 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Ain’t English grand? And, by grand, I mean really fucking annoying.

I’m learning Spanish:
están - They are
es tan - (it) is so

Driving me nuts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:17:36am

re: #289 Belafon

I know. About all I was really saying was that I don’t care about cooking, and there are those who just don’t have time for cooking the way some do. The quote from the boss saying “then you should like cooking” reminded me of the “what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger” quote, which doesn’t quite work with amputation. I have zero problem with people loving to cook. My maternal grandmother did, and my dad does. My son’s seem to have picked up the gene, which is good. My attempt to make something different quickly runs into “Why is this taking so long?”

I also hate trips. I will be so glad when teleporters are invented.

I agree there, there have been very few destinations in my life that I found worth the effort of getting there.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:19:01am

re: #301 Belafon

I’m learning Spanish:
están - They are
es tan - (it) is so

Driving me nuts.

there, there, they’re their problem phrases

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Archangelus  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:19:38am

re: #290 BeachDem

Somebody sent me this—I haven’t tried it yet.

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I’m sooooooo stealing this one! (with your permission, ofc) :)

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:20:01am

re: #302 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I agree there, there have been very few destinations in my life that I found worth the effort of getting there.

Sounds like Belafon enjoys the destinations but would rather not have to go thru the current getting their process. Teleportation would be dope!

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Jay C  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:23:00am

re: #301 Belafon

I’m learning Spanish:
están - They are
es tan - (it) is so

Driving me nuts.

Well, that’s why they have to put little marks on some letters to tell the difference, like:

Sí = “yes”
Si = “but”

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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:25:01am

re: #306 Jay C

Well, that’s why they have to put little marks on some letters to tell the difference, like:

Sí = “yes”
Si = “but”

Perro = dog

pero = but

si = if

soy no expert.

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BeachDem  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:29:16am

re: #304 Archangelus

I’m sooooooo stealing this one! (with your permission, ofc) :)

Have at it—it reminded me of the old google search result “cannot find weapons of mass destruction” graphic from the olden days.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:29:26am

It’s amazing the psychological break from reality that has occurred with the avid Trumpists.

Mitchell claiming that Ryan retiring will help increase turnout. Sure, Bill. It has nothing to do with Ryan reading the tea leaves and realizing he doesn’t want to go back to being, at most, the minority leader in the House.

Hannity claiming that Mueller has “gone rogue”. Sure, Sean. People going rogue often present their case to a judge who in turn signs off on the requested relief.

Also, re: Nunes’ claim that Republicans intend to impeach Wray. Is that even an impeachable position?

Last but not least, I have no particular love lost for Boehner, but at least he would wrestle his balls way from the far right of the caucus on occasion to do what needed to be done by using Dem votes.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:31:46am

re: #307 wrenchwench

Perro = dog

pero = but

si = if

soy no expert.

Papa (with accent on second a) = dad

Papa (no accent) = potato

Se = reflexive pronoun

Se (with accent on e) = I know

Por que (accent on e) = why

Porque (no accent) = because

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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:32:49am

re: #290 BeachDem

Somebody sent me this—I haven’t tried it yet.

[Embedded content]

BeachDem,

I’m almost afraid to ask…but have you heard anything from Decatur Deb? You mentioned you were going to email him. I do hope for good news.

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Belafon  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:32:51am

re: #306 Jay C

Well, that’s why they have to put little marks on some letters to tell the difference, like:

Sí = “yes”
Si = “but”

Si is also “if”

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:33:17am
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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:33:55am

re: #310 Mike Lamb

Papa (with accent on second a) = dad

Papa (no accent) = potato

Se = reflexive pronoun

Se (with accent on e) = I know

Por que (accent on e) = why

Porque (no accent) = because

I hate having to do those little marks. There must be a keyboard for that. I would hate writing them out worse. You done good.

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Skip Intro  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:35:08am

re: #28 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Sympathies.

2017 was an unmitigated disaster for me and 2018 has shown no signs of getting better…

Ditto that from me, too.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:35:47am

re: #260 darthstar

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Skip Intro  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:36:17am

re: #242 lawhawk

Hannity is starting to look like Limbaugh. All he needs is a big cigar sticking out of his mouth.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:37:22am

re: #317 Skip Intro

Hannity is starting to look like Limbaugh. All he needs is a big cigar sticking out of his mouth.

They think that makes them look cool, when really it just makes them look stupid.

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retired cynic  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:37:50am

Yesterday I was in Springfield IL for an appointment, and took the opportunity to shop at a big grocery story. As I was checking out, I noticed one of the magazines was all turned around to face backwards. Curious, I checked, and it was a Joel Osteen magazine, with big toothy smiles on the cover. I laughed and put it back, facing backward. LOL

I thought you folks would appreciate that!

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dirkdigglerjr  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:40:31am

re: #314 wrenchwench

I’ve always imagined this conversation between a teenager and a parent in Spanish

Teenager: Por que?
Parent: Porque pro que!
Teenage: Por que porque?
Parent: Porque!
Teenager: Arrrrrggggghhhh!

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CongoJack  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:40:55am

re: #319 retired cynic

Yesterday I was in Springfield IL for an appointment, and took the opportunity to shop at a big grocery story. As I was checking out, I noticed one of the magazines was all turned around to face backwards. Curious, I checked, and it was a Joel Osteen magazine, with big toothy smiles on the cover. I laughed and put it back, facing backward. LOL

I thought you folks would appreciate that!

I do that to all the gossip and religious magazines as well at the grocery store. My wife just looks at me like I’m crazy (then ignores me until we are out of the store).

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:42:37am

re: #319 retired cynic

I had to cancel an appointment earlier today that I’d made for tomorrow afternoon (to the optometrist - sadly, I don’t have time for the next few weeks) so I phoned it in.

The receptionist was overjoyed…..not that I’d cancelled, but that I’d actually called to cancel the appointment. She went on to explain that no one here does that - they just don’t show up.

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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:43:50am

I’m the linguistic moron in my family. Two siblings live in Germany. Second one went to visit the first one knowing no German. A year later, she was teaching German to immigrants. In Germany. First one works as a translator in 5 languages. So good, he got co-author credit for a book on computer languages. Another brother teaches at the university level in Spanish, in Bogota. One married a Venezuelan. The other two are fluent in two or three languages, besides English. I barely get by in that one.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:44:14am

re: #320 dirkdigglerjr

I’ve always imagined this conversation between a teenager and a parent in Spanish

Teenager: Por que?
Parent: Porque pro que!
Teenage: Por que porque?
Parent: Porque!
Teenager: Arrrrrggggghhhh!

I have that exact conversation with my 4 year old son.

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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:46:29am

re: #323 wrenchwench

I’m the linguistic moron in my family. Two siblings live in Germany. Second one went to visit the first one knowing no German. A year later, she was teaching German to immigrants. In Germany. First one works as a translator in 5 languages. So good, he got co-author credit for a book on computer languages. Another brother teaches at the university level in Spanish, in Bogota. One married a Venezuelan. The other two are fluent in two or three languages, besides English. I barely get by in that one.

Can they do quality wrenching on a bike?

I bet you got them there.

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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:48:28am

re: #323 wrenchwench

But when I spent 6 weeks in Greece, I learned how to say ‘I do not speak Greek’ so well in Greek, that nobody would believe me. I can still say, ‘Where is the train to Athens?’ Does me no good here.

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BeachDem  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:50:37am

re: #311 ObserverArt

AHJUFsr81vkry9zCpdiinKA2p50a8KpOVmIdPZR173dO7v26QnELrZFYN6K2a19i0s3HU7BinTNnz3qHVj/8QLXmomHxfCiTjpitbC19y8pAUEkvHaV0RCVs6F5rzsRRLA3j6NmRRBd1boBt4Kn1M7M0OXybNW7U

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:51:01am

Narrator: “The Russian government has likely gotten Facebook data on tens of millions of Americans”

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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:51:18am
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darthstar  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:51:27am
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makeitstop  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:51:42am

Former Flynn sycophant gets re-assigned to DoJ under Sessions.

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wrenchwench  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:52:54am

re: #325 ObserverArt

Can they do quality wrenching on a bike?

I bet you got them there.

Yeah, my oldest brother works at a particle accelerator laboratory. He’s the quantum mechanic, I’m the bike mechanic.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:52:55am

re: #292 Ace-o-aces

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Jay C  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:54:15am

re: #312 Belafon

Si is also “if”

Yes.

(I saw my mistake too late to correct it: Lizards need quick fingers hereabouts….)

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ObserverArt  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:55:59am

re: #327 BeachDem

[Embedded content]

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darthstar  Apr 11, 2018 • 9:58:58am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:02:11am

re: #328 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

…makes it so that no amount of people ….

He went to Harvard? Do they not teach English, there? Iit’s NUMBER you half wit. If you can count it; a cardinal number, you use the word number. GAH.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:03:37am

re: #253 HappyWarrior

I would love to know who this is. Too bad he didn’t want to be identified.

I would love to know who legit calls Erickson a journalist.

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makeitstop  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:04:59am
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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:05:33am

re: #328 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

No number of people can check the content?

Yes, we already have people who report content for violating the TOS and FB does nothing.

Same as with Twitter.

Report goddamned Nazis and watch their account get suspended for limited time, only to resurface. Or get suspended permanently only to open dummy accounts to push the same heinous content.

Or, report Nazis on Twitter or FB only to see your own account get blocked because someone labeled your effort to stop goddamned Nazis as hate speech.

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darthstar  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:13:05am

My wife took my keys by mistake this morning. I have other keys for the car, but my only truck keys are with her…that means no lunch time beach run with Banjo…unless we freakin’ walk. It also means I can’t pick up more fencing for my landscaper who has been rebuilding my fence.

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:13:12am

Anybody have any insight here? Note it’s actually 70 subpeonas, 35 sets.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:15:01am

re: #342 JordanRules

Anybody have any insight here? Note it’s actually 70 subpeonas, 35 sets.

totally rogue

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:15:38am

Bloop!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:18:53am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:22:19am
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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:23:14am
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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:24:22am

re: #344 JordanRules

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BeachDem  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:27:05am

re: #339 makeitstop

[Embedded content]

Paul Ryan has benefited from one of the longest running typos in history.

The guy is a policy wank.

Charles P. Pierce’s Ryan review (Spoiler—he’s not a fan!)

Paul Ryan Will Retire as the Biggest Fake in American Politics

Highlights/lowlights:

As a longtime connoisseur of Ryan’s public fakery, I may never decide what about him I find the most nauseating—the retrograde policies that he gussies up as concern for the poor and downtrodden, or the wet-eyed phony sincerity with which he sells them…

Ryan’s entire public career has been dedicated to shoving the nation’s wealth upwards and into the pockets of his donor class. It was the basis for the ridiculous reputation he built up through the years in which he was portrayed as a disinterested policy wonk…The illusion died a horrible death in 2012, when Ryan sat down on stage next to Joe Biden and Biden literally laughed him off…

Biggest. Fake. Ever.

And, in conclusion:

Don’t it make my zombie eyes blue?

esquire.com

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lawhawk  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:27:41am
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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:29:52am
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dangerman  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:30:49am

re: #202 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

pelosi’s catching on
“better futures for all americans” = “liberty and justice for all”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:31:50am

so full of shite

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:33:20am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:34:07am
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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:35:03am

Yeesh!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:35:36am

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:36:06am

re: #353 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

so full of shite

He did not craft that tweet. Not at all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:39:36am

re: #357 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

the deleted tweet:

then these:

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:40:12am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:40:49am
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BeachDem  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:41:19am

re: #360 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

HuffPo header (heh)

RYAN FLEES
THE CRIME SCENE

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:41:42am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:42:43am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:44:05am

only the best and well-researched questions…

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BeachDem  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:45:41am

re: #364 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

And in Arizona…

The Arizona state House of Representatives passed a bill that would require women seeking abortions to fill out an invasive questionnaire that asks the reason for the procedure.

The legislation, passed on Monday, would force women to answer questions, including whether the abortion is elective for economic reasons, if the pregnancy was from a rape or incest, if the woman does not want children at this time, if the abortion is due to fetal or maternal health, and if the patient is having “relationship issues” such as domestic abuse or an extramarital affair.

huffingtonpost.com

Fuck. These. Assholes.

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JordanRules  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:45:56am

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

only the best and well-researched questions…

[Embedded content]

Freakin embarrassing!!

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Dr. Matt  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:46:45am

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

only the best and well-researched questions…

Looks like someone read last night the wiki page of “The Social Network”.

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dangerman  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:46:56am

re: #353 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

so full of shite

“partnering”?

isnt this all one administration?
his administration?
of which he’s in charge?

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gocart mozart  Apr 11, 2018 • 10:55:15am
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Belafon  Apr 11, 2018 • 11:18:32am

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

Then they broke law and they should be reversed on those grounds.

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darthstar  Apr 11, 2018 • 11:34:16am

re: #342 JordanRules

Anybody have any insight here? Note it’s actually 70 subpeonas, 35 sets.

[Embedded content]

Well, if you put the names on them now, they’re all likely to get polonium poisoning by June.


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