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1
jaunte  Apr 13, 2018 • 8:22:46pm

array mbira

google.com

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austin_blue  Apr 13, 2018 • 8:24:02pm

Heavy weather moving into town from the west. Just had a 60 mph gust hit us. Tree damage.

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allegro  Apr 13, 2018 • 8:26:46pm

re: #2 austin_blue

Heavy weather moving into town from the west. Just had a 60 mph gust hit us. Tree damage.

Hoping it peters out before reaching us later tonight/early morning.

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BeachDem  Apr 13, 2018 • 8:26:51pm

And there it is:

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Apr 13, 2018 • 8:27:02pm

Wow! Thanks, Charles! Love it, and it’s damn hard to play a sax that way. Thanks also to Jaunte. Never saw an instrument like that.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 13, 2018 • 8:28:46pm

re: #4 BeachDem

And there it is:

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Enemy prepared for attack by man who told them he would attack 5 days ago. Funny that.

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Belafon  Apr 13, 2018 • 8:29:13pm

A complete aside, for you cartoon fans, Craig of the Creek is starting out as a pretty good show:

Craig of the Creek | Trailer | Cartoon Network

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Dave In Austin  Apr 13, 2018 • 8:31:54pm

re: #2 austin_blue

Heavy weather moving into town from the west. Just had a 60 mph gust hit us. Tree damage.

I didn’t expect this tonite. Things will be green and slimy in the morning.

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Cheechako  Apr 13, 2018 • 8:31:56pm

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

Enemy prepared for attack by man who told them he would attack 5 days ago. Funny that.

How many times did trump say that he would never telegraph potential military actions before they occurred during the campaign?

trump never speaks the truth.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 13, 2018 • 8:32:36pm

re: #4 BeachDem

And there it is:

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To someone who has studied military history this telegraphing of intentions is something new and exceedingly bizarre.
April, 1942: “Hey, Japan! Payback time! Our guy Doolittle is headed your way and he’s gonna’ kick ass!”

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allegro  Apr 13, 2018 • 8:35:16pm

re: #10 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

To someone who has studied military history this telegraphing of intentions is something new and exceedingly bizarre.
April, 1942: “Hey, Japan! Payback time! Our guy Doolittle is headed your way and he’s gonna’ kick ass!”

Different objectives. This is theater.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 13, 2018 • 8:36:17pm

re: #11 allegro

Different objectives. This is theater.

Kayfabe played to perfection.

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Belafon  Apr 13, 2018 • 8:36:48pm

I had some interesting training last night, dealing with heavy bleeding wounds, such as gunshot wounds. The first thing we learned was how to use a Combat Application Tourniquet, such as this one. They are actually recommending a tourniquet be applied first if possible on a wound that is losing a lot of blood.

In cases where you can’t use a tourniquet - not available or in an area where a tourniquet cannot be applied, such as the neck - that you pack the wound and/or apply pressure. The instructors had these ammo boxes that had skin set up to look like a gunshot wound, which was connected to an IV bag so they could make liquid flow. We actually had to pack the wound until the flow stopped.

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austin_blue  Apr 13, 2018 • 8:36:49pm

re: #10 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

To someone who has studied military history this telegraphing of intentions is something new and exceedingly bizarre.
April, 1942: “Hey, Japan! Payback time! Our guy Doolittle is headed your way and he’s gonna’ kick ass!”

Yup. Stupid as hell. Looks we got all of our birds back home. The RAF launched 4 Tornadoes and the French launched at least 4 Rafales from an unknown location, maybe Larnaca also.

You just don’t telegraph that you are coming without endangering your strike force. Drumpf is an idiot.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 13, 2018 • 8:38:20pm

re: #14 austin_blue

Yup. Stupid as hell. Looks we got all of our birds back home. The RAF launched 4 Tornadoes and the French launched at least 4 Rafales from an unknown location, maybe Larnaca also.

You just don’t telegraph that you are coming without endangering your strike force. Drumpf is an idiot.

So it was F/A-18’s, and not missiles? The press releases seem a bit confused on that point.

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MsJ  Apr 13, 2018 • 8:38:27pm

re: #11 allegro

Different objectives. This is theater.

Everything he does is theater. He’s a reality show jackass.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 13, 2018 • 8:39:38pm

Please Discuss

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 13, 2018 • 8:40:19pm

re: #16 MsJ

Everything he does is theater. He’s a reality show jackass.

And Putin is the showrunner.

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MsJ  Apr 13, 2018 • 8:40:20pm

re: #17 I Would Prefer Not To

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Double the rings.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 13, 2018 • 8:49:16pm

Left over from the last thread (because I am way behind from the blizzard today):

re: #229 Anymouse 🌹

Article II does not authorise the Commander-in-Chief of the military to launch attacks on foreign powers.

That is an overt lie.

re: #191 Varek Raith

Therein lies the problem. I support such a strike as this. Just not from some fucking idiot like Trump and his toadies. They have a tendency to fuck up anything they touch. I’m curious how he will deal with the limitedness of this strike.

re: #230 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t without authorisation from Congress. Conservatives have completely abdicated their Constitutional authority to declare war (which does not have to be a public declaration) in the name of grasping and maintaining power.

That is all this is about. Power as religion.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 13, 2018 • 8:52:17pm

The G-men have been watching Says Who Cohen for a while.

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allegro  Apr 13, 2018 • 8:54:10pm

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

And Putin is the showrunner.

Indeed. This is about dick waving. To now anyway. Looks like a bunch of players on stage.

Trying to find the place in my head for England and France legitimizing the Trump/Putin war porn distraction game.

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jaunte  Apr 13, 2018 • 8:55:09pm

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

And Putin is the showrunner.

The Russians didn’t engage their air defenses in Syria.

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petesh  Apr 13, 2018 • 8:57:01pm

Also from the last thread because it’s really important:

Mark Knopfler just cemented his good-guy credentials for me, by refusing to attend the introduction to the RnR HoF of Dire Straits.

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jaunte  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:02:55pm

“Russia’s newest anti-air defenses are in Syria”
businessinsider.com

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Stanley Sea  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:04:51pm

re: #12 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Kayfabe played to perfection.

Ah, we’ll call it Syria 1, 2 & then 3!!!!

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Belafon  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:05:49pm

Over at Daily Kos, the bombing didn’t even crack the Rec List. Trump’s going to have to try harder than that.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:06:49pm

Following up from my speculation about less public but more effective ways to deal with this (as though that were Trump’s intent, ha ha).
Imagine if Assad woke up with his favorite horse’s chemist’s head next to him on the bed.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:11:18pm

I have arrived! The Nebraska Democratic Party now has me up on their slate of candidates for the election!

nebraskademocrats.org

My existence is confirmed!

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thecommodore  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:12:47pm

53-47 yes so far.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:19:32pm

re: #30 thecommodore

53-47 yes so far.

Hell, you can’t see his poll. It’s at 73% “Yes”, 3% “No”, 4% “Yes”, and 20% “Also Yes”.

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austin_blue  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:21:44pm

re: #15 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

So it was F/A-18’s, and not missiles? The press releases seem a bit confused on that point.

I think probably both, but the mix has not been announced. We certainly sent some F-18 Weasels into Syria before the Allied strike teams arrived to suppress the Syrian radars and SAM systems. There are probably also some post-strike recce birds or drones (kill ‘em with fill-um!) taking pictures to see how we did.

Depending on how much we have degraded the Syrian assets (i.e., blown shit up), I would expect follow-on missions tomorrow night, especially against Syrian strike helicopters and Sukhoi jet bombers. They’ve got 25 helos and around 120 jets. If you want to shut down their ability to deliver chem weapons, those are the obvious targets.

Note:

+/- 8 strike aircraft from from the UK/France plus whatever we threw into the mix isn’t going to kill 145 aircraft. Not even close. Most of their aircraft will be in armored revetments and would require smart bombs. And it appears the UK/French strikes were on Sarin/other war gas production sites.

We’d need to launch at least 70 sorties to kill their strike bombers and helos.

We aren’t going to do that. Too risky to aircrews. I think we probably went in and busted up a few easy targets and pulled a didimau out of there to let them lick their wounds.

We’ll see in the morning, but this looks like a very limited strike scenario.

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Kragar  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:23:48pm
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Belafon  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:24:53pm

re: #33 Kragar

I wonder how many replies there are before someone says Obama didn’t ask for authorization?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:26:19pm

re: #31 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Hell, you can’t see his poll. It’s at 73% “Yes”, 3% “No”, 4% “Yes”, and 20% “Also Yes”.

Well, woodja lookithat! My Twitter account is suspended after logging on twice and tweeting zero, but I can vote in polls! Waddaya know?

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Varek Raith  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:26:39pm

re: #33 Kragar

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I’m afraid that horse left the barn long ago.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:27:12pm

Here is the governor of Kentucky managing to offend everyone, even people in his own party.

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Varek Raith  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:27:50pm

re: #37 wheat-dogg

Here is the governor of Kentucky managing to offend everyone, even people in his own party.

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What a piece of shit.

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austin_blue  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:30:23pm

re: #34 Belafon

I wonder how many replies there are before someone says Obama didn’t ask for authorization?

Actually, he did, of course, but the fog of Republican idiocy will prevent that being accurately reported. His request was cleared out of the Senate subcommittee with McCain’s OK before it died before a floor vote when Putin cut a deal w/ Assad to remove his chem weapons (oopsie!).

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:32:07pm

Nebraska Emergency Management Agency put pictures up on Flickr today showing students in the Public Information Officer class in Bridgeport last week.

That cute guy in the white trilby you see at the table and speaking at the podium is me. /blush

www .flickr .com/photos/nemapics/sets/72157667765999998

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HappyWarrior  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:32:13pm

re: #37 wheat-dogg

Here is the governor of Kentucky managing to offend everyone, even people in his own party.

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What a fucking asshole.

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thecommodore  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:33:49pm

re: #37 wheat-dogg

Here is the governor of Kentucky managing to offend everyone, even people in his own party.

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IIRC, when he was elected in 2014, the turnout was barely above 40%.

This is what happens when people don’t vote.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:36:10pm

re: #40 Anymouse 🌹

fixed. remove spaces from the link. Flickr doesn’t like LGF

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Belafon  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:39:31pm

re: #39 austin_blue

Actually, he did, of course, but the fog of Republican idiocy will prevent that being accurately reported. His request was cleared out of the Senate subcommittee with McCain’s OK before it died before a floor vote when Putin cut a deal w/ Assad to remove his chem weapons (oopsie!).

Oh, I know he did. I just suspect there is going to be at least one claim that he didn’t, and that he ordered bombing.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:40:03pm

re: #24 petesh

Also from the last thread because it’s really important:

Mark Knopfler just cemented his good-guy credentials for me, by refusing to attend the introduction to the RnR HoF of Dire Straits.

I was just watching him and Clapton at Nelson Mandela’s birthday celebration in…I want to say ‘99? I loved it when he said “Dire Straits was banned by the South African Government in 1977—I’m happy to say”.

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I cannot.  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:50:08pm

The evergreen response…

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petesh  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:51:17pm

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹

fixed. remove spaces from the link. Flickr doesn’t like LGF

Yeah, it took me longer than it should but I figured that out. Nice collection of buttons.

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Kragar  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:54:55pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:55:06pm

re: #47 petesh

Yeah, it took me longer than it should but I figured that out. Nice collection of buttons.

Actually, most of those are stickers. They all come from the hospital coffee shop in Sidney. (They put a sticker with insanely good glue on them, to cover the hole in a coffee lid.)

The only pin is the one that says “Soul,” which Penzey’s gave to their customers in honour of Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:55:51pm

re: #48 Kragar

Idiots like Jill Stein are why Trump is in the White House.

How much of that “recount” money did you pocket?

All of it.

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I cannot.  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:56:16pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:56:21pm

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Targetpractice  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:56:33pm

re: #48 Kragar

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Hey Jill, perhaps you can tell us because your brain dead followers sure as fuck can’t: How would Hillary have been “worse”? Seriously, would she have had to nuke Damascus in order to be “worse” than this?

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:57:26pm

re: #52 I Would Prefer Not To

Do they issue those crazy eyes to every conservative?

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Targetpractice  Apr 13, 2018 • 9:57:53pm

re: #54 Anymouse 🌹

Do they issue those crazy eyes to every conservative?

They get a discount for buying in bulk.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:05:11pm

This was the one i meant to post regarding the action in Syria. Great writer. Conrad was a fucking genius and English was his second language. Born in Poland.

Yes I’m drinking why do you ask? and now i crash. Till the morning comes

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wheat-dogg  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:07:48pm

Music break: Luna Lee sings over her own gayageum playing.

Fleetwood Mac-Dreams cover by Luna

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:10:46pm

re: #56 I Would Prefer Not To

This was the one i meant to post regarding the action in Syria. Great writer. Conrad was a fucking genius and English was his second language. Born in Poland.

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Yes I’m drinking why do you ask? and now i crash. Till the morning comes

“Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.” — Foundation, Issac Asimov.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:12:33pm

re: #57 wheat-dogg

That woman is amazing.

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teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:14:09pm

Uh oh, Fuckface Von Clownstick may have lost Alex Jones.

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Kragar  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:14:26pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:16:13pm

re: #60 teleskiguy

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wheat-dogg  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:17:00pm

re: #59 Eclectic Cyborg

That woman is amazing.

Agreed.

She’s inspiring guzheng players in China to try the same kind of covers. Guzheng is the “parent” of the gayageum, I believe. I’ve found her videos on the Chinese video-sharing sites.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:19:20pm

re: #60 teleskiguy

Uh oh, Fuckface Von Clownstick may have lost Alex Jones.

LOL, the guy who said a couple days ago that when he was thirteen, Satan-worshiping senior girls tried to date him to prevent him from starting InfoWars?

rightwingwatch.org (with video)

joemygod.com (partial transcript)

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teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:19:59pm
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wheat-dogg  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:20:53pm

re: #64 Anymouse 🌹

LOL, the guy who said a couple days ago that when he was thirteen, Satan-worshiping senior girls tried to date him to prevent him from starting InfoWars?

rightwingwatch.org (with video)

joemygod.com (partial transcript)

Talk about a 13-year-old male’s wet dream, with or without the Satanism angle.

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Kragar  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:21:45pm

The moment where they both shut up and sort of look aside, I’m fucking dying here.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:21:52pm

re: #63 wheat-dogg

Agreed.

She’s inspiring guzheng players in China to try the same kind of covers. Guzheng is the “parent” of the gayageum, I believe. I’ve found her videos on the Chinese video-sharing sites.

It’s in the same class of instruments as the hammered dulcimer (a zither), but has been around for a whole lot longer (evidence for the instrument goes back 2,500 years).

Strings have gradually been added to it since it was invented.

en.wikipedia.org

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austin_blue  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:22:47pm

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹

“Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.” — Foundation, Issac Asimov.

I don’t know. Maybe if your enemy is tossing infants into the air and impaling them on bayonets and raping 8 year old boys and girls, violence might be justified.

Like hunting them down and killing every single one of the fucking bastards.

Just a thought.

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teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:25:00pm

Very expensive distraction.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:25:50pm

re: #68 Anymouse 🌹

It’s in the same class of instruments as the hammered dulcimer (a zither), but has been around for a whole lot longer (evidence for the instrument goes back 2,500 years).

Strings have gradually been added to it since it was invented.

en.wikipedia.org

A friend who plays guzheng asked me to try playing it once. I was bewildered. I can barely handle six strings on a guitar. Watching them play is mesmerizing.

Those puppies are also frightfully expensive, and I see Luna has at least three, which she has modified to make them louder — probably by installing pickups inside.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:29:24pm

Wabbits

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:30:06pm

re: #71 wheat-dogg

A friend who plays guzheng asked me to try playing it once. I was bewildered. I can barely handle six strings on a guitar. Watching them play is mesmerizing.

Those puppies are also frightfully expensive, and I see Luna has at least three, which she has modified to make them louder — probably by installing pickups inside.

Considering how complicated the instrument is, I imagine it is frightfully expensive (at least as much or more than a hammered dulcimer).

I have pickups in one of my dulcimers, but you have to have the instrument custom-built or retrofitted (and those aren’t cheap either).

She is a wonderful player.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:30:19pm

LOL

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petesh  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:31:38pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

Now, that’s interesting. Both because it seems the Russian defenses may be better than the US thought, and because it provides an opportunity to tune up in order to leapfrog the defense. Not that it’s the same, but Germany did a lot of live-action testing in the Spanish Civil War. Whether today’s strike “worked” or not, the military will gain important data from it. Unfortunately.

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Targetpractice  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:33:14pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

Very expensive distraction.

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So Trump gets his chest-thumping moment, Putin gets to showcase his anti-missile systems to prospective buyers, and Assad gets to ramp up his campaign against the rebels by now portraying them as agents of the US.

The losers are anybody who actually bought into that whole “Trump is anti-war” bullshit.

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Kragar  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:33:56pm

re: #75 petesh

Now, that’s interesting. Both because it seems the Russian defenses may be better than the US thought, and because it provides an opportunity to tune up in order to leapfrog the defense. Not that it’s the same, but Germany did a lot of live-action testing in the Spanish Civil War. Whether today’s strike “worked” or not, the military will gain important data from it. Unfortunately.

Or, the Russians are lying their asses off about it.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:35:27pm

re: #76 Targetpractice

The losers are anybody who actually bought into that whole “Trump is anti-war” bullshit.

But he’s doing it ironically!

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:36:27pm

re: #77 Kragar

Or, the Russians are lying their asses off about it.

Yeah, I was thinking that I’d take anything the Russians say with a big damn grain of salt. They’re simply not trustworthy.

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Targetpractice  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:37:25pm

re: #77 Kragar

Or, the Russians are lying their asses off about it.

I’ll cut the difference: They had successes in shooting down our missiles, ones that will allow them to calibrate the software and identify potential weaknesses in the current configuration, but they did knock out a statistically significant fraction that proves the system works.

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petesh  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:39:10pm

re: #79 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, I was thinking that I’d take anything the Russians say with a big damn grain of salt. They’re simply not trustworthy.

True. But they are not the only source of data, and whatever happened this was (to be ghoulish) a useful test.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:39:45pm

re: #79 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, I was thinking that I’d take anything the Russians say with a big damn grain of salt. They’re simply not trustworthy.

MASH why don’t I trust you guys ?

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electrotek  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:41:30pm

French electronic music legend Jean Michel Jarre is live at Coachella right now!

Coachella 2018 LIVE Channel 2

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:44:47pm

Dog wagging proceeds as planned:

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austin_blue  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:45:23pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

Very expensive distraction.

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Maybe.

Two SSGNs out of King’s Bay, Georgia could have been deployed recently to the Med. Each (the USS Florida and the USS Georgia) carry 144 Tomahawks. Stealthy, fast weapons systems. They could have easily been positioned in the eastern Med five days out of leaving Georgia.

And I’m outta here.

Sweet dreams, all, (I know that’s an ironic pipe dream, given tonight), but it’s my best wishes to the Lizard community.

May The Flying Spaghetti Monster watch over us all!

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Targetpractice  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:47:59pm

re: #84 Anymouse 🌹

Dog wagging proceeds as planned:

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“We’re blowing shit up overseas! This is totally gonna boost our ratings!”

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:49:31pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

Very expensive distraction.

Yup. Conservatives giving the opportunity for any adversary who can to analyze our missiles’ capabilities to develop counters to them, just to drive bad news out of the news cycle.

They will even give away our military secrets in what is mostly a useless exercise (cruise missiles are not really a good weapon against land targets) just to grasp and maintain power.

Added bonus? Fiscal conservatism. Those things ain’t cheap.

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Targetpractice  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:52:44pm

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹

Yup. Conservatives giving the opportunity for any adversary who can to analyze our missiles’ capabilities to develop counters to them, just to drive bad news out of the news cycle.

They will even give away our military secrets in what is mostly a useless exercise (cruise missiles are not really a good weapon against land targets) just to grasp and maintain power.

Added bonus? Fiscal conservatism. Those things ain’t cheap.

You can be sure the DoD is already penciling the cost of those replacements into next year’s budget request. Or salivating at the chance to submit an “emergency” request for additional funds from Congress to replace the munitions expended tonight.

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fern01  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:55:49pm

Wonder what this little “stop talking about Mueller” episode cost. Probably could have paid the Kentucky teachers for a decade or two. The result goes no way near validating the cost.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:56:01pm

re: #88 Targetpractice

You can be sure the DoD is already penciling the cost of those replacements into next year’s budget request. Or salivating at the chance to submit an “emergency” request for additional funds from Congress to replace the munitions expended tonight.

And the fiscal conservatives will try to take it from Veterans Affairs, SNAP, &c

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electrotek  Apr 13, 2018 • 10:57:55pm

Oh great, Snowden showed up in this Coachella stream.

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Kragar  Apr 13, 2018 • 11:01:58pm
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wheat-dogg  Apr 13, 2018 • 11:03:33pm

Well, I get to fetch another package from the farthest location on campus again. This one is probably bars of aloe soap made in South Korea. I bought one while I was in Hong Kong and really liked it. So I ordered three from taobao.com.

Probably I’ll pick up a VGA cable for my desktop project while I’m walking across campus.

BBIAB.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 13, 2018 • 11:13:58pm
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Kragar  Apr 13, 2018 • 11:15:43pm

re: #94 goddamnedfrank

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freetoken  Apr 13, 2018 • 11:23:56pm

re: #4 BeachDem

Of course many of the targets had been cleared out. Given Trump’s been publicly giving them warning for some time now.

Tonight’s actions, including the speech, especially the speech, is just theatre for Trumpers and anybody else Trump and his new NSC gang can fool.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 13, 2018 • 11:30:20pm

re: #96 freetoken

Of course many of the targets had been cleared out. Given Trump’s been publicly giving them warning for some time now.

Tonight’s actions, including the speech, especially the speech, is just theatre for Trumpers and anybody else Trump and his new NSC gang can fool.

I would imagine adversaries have whole divisions in their foreign or defence ministries analysing Trump’s tweets.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 13, 2018 • 11:33:02pm

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹

…Trump’s tweets.

Holy hell! How did we get here anyway? How is Trump allowed to tweet? Obama had to give up his BlackBerry as soon as he was inaugurated!

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 13, 2018 • 11:34:44pm

re: #98 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Holy hell! How did we get here anyway? How is Trump allowed to tweet? Obama had to give up his BlackBerry as soon as he was inaugurated!

IOKYAR.

That, and Jack Dorsey is fine with giving away diplomatic or military secrets as long as he can make money off it.

A person threatens someone else’s life on Twitter? Kicked off.

Trump threatens billions with nuclear war? Profit for a libertarian.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 13, 2018 • 11:36:23pm

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹

I would imagine adversaries have whole divisions in their foreign or defence ministries analysing Trump’s tweets.

if he did not have “back channels” telling them just what they needed to know to minimize damage and loss

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 13, 2018 • 11:36:50pm

re: #98 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Holy hell! How did we get here anyway? How is Trump allowed to tweet? Obama had to give up his BlackBerry as soon as he was inaugurated!

I believe that had to do with some problems relating to encryption

102
I cannot.  Apr 13, 2018 • 11:36:52pm

re: #98 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Our own departments have people analyzing Trump’s tweets just so they can figure out what their job is supposed to be for that day, our allies AND adversaries would have to do the same.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 13, 2018 • 11:37:22pm

re: #95 Kragar

Quitters who won’t stand up to fascists?

Just as an aside, do you suppose if we dissected the wingnut brain and found the wiring error that causes them to always leave the “s” out of “fascist” we could trace that circuit and learn something about prevention or cure of the condition?

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 13, 2018 • 11:39:45pm

re: #83 electrotek

French electronic music legend Jean Michel Jarre is live at Coachella right now!

Your Coachella Money Is Going to a Right-Wing Billionaire Who Funded Anti-LGBT and Anti-Marijuana Causes (Daily Beast, more at the link):

This weekend, hordes of music lovers and teepee enthusiasts will descend on Indio, California, for the annual Coachella Music Festival. The first big festival of the season, Coachella has a reputation for attracting the worst of the worst: entitled rich kids in knockoff Native headdresses, bankers in bindis, and these people. Think Fyre Festival, but financially solvent.

A few years ago, The Washington Post revealed that the often-problematic festival’s issues went way beyond appropriative accessories. A 2016 report on America’s “enemies of equality” is often cited as blowing the lid off Coachella and its founder, Philip Anschutz, the owner of entertainment conglomerate AEG. The Freedom for All Americans campaign reported that Anschutz, one of the richest people in America with a net worth of $12.9 billion, gave large sums of money to the Alliance Defending Freedom, the National Christian Foundation, and the Family Research Council.

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teleskiguy  Apr 13, 2018 • 11:46:51pm

I’m paraphrasing Gore Vidal here.

*fast forward to 2026

“We’ve got some horrible news. The Donald Trump Library has burned to the ground. Both books were destroyed. The real horror is that he had not finished coloring the second.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 13, 2018 • 11:48:27pm

Trump supporters rip decision to strike Syria (Politico)

Some of President Donald Trump’s staunchest backers tore into his decision to attack Syria late Friday night, arguing it was unnecessary, reactionary and even Clinton-esque.

Making sure to magic balance fairy this by invoking Bill Clinton.

“We lost. War machine bombs syria. No evidence Assad did it. Sad warmongers hijacking our nation,” tweeted conservative author and radio host Michael Savage. Savage also posted a video discussing the missile strikes, tearing into Trump’s decision.

And …

“Donald Bush,” tweeted Mike Cernovich, a conservative author and once a staunch supporter of Trump.

“Congratulations to the Trump administration for adopting the same failed foreign policy and ignoring of the constitution as the last two administrations,” tweeted Doug Stafford, a strategist for Sen. Rand Paul’s RANDPAC.

Conservative author Ann Coulter retweeted a series of people questioning military action in Syria — as well as past tweets from Trump himself. Before his presidential bid, Trump argued former President Barack Obama would be foolish to take any action in Syria.

Coulter also quoted a news story about former Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe promising he could beat Trump if he ran against him and tweeted, “You might - if you promised no more “stupid wars.”“

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 13, 2018 • 11:50:30pm

re: #105 teleskiguy

I’m paraphrasing Gore Vidal here.

*fast forward to 2026

“We’ve got some horrible news. The Donald Trump Library has burned to the ground. Both books were destroyed. The real horror is that he had not finished coloring the second.”

an old joke. I think it was Steven Colbert who pointed out that the Donald Trump Library would be the first presidential library with a separate adult section, hidden behind a shoddy cloth curtain…

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:02:17am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:05:44am

re: #95 Kragar

But no one should blame Ryan for having a less-than-reliable majority in the House, or the president not being much an asset in the advancement of legislative priorities.

It is true, the whole GOP is to be blamed for relying on a base of support that feels no loyalty even to the party but to its own extreme-right agenda.

110
mmmirele  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:08:26am

re: #37 wheat-dogg

Here is the governor of Kentucky managing to offend everyone, even people in his own party.

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I JUST returned from Kentucky. From picketing an event whose founders include a guy who covered up child sexual abuse. Bevin should just SHUT THE **** UP.

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Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:09:35am

re: #95 Kragar

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From ushering the largest tax overhaul in recent memory through the House, to chairing the House Budget Committee for four years, Ryan’s record speaks for itself.

And what it says is “I am a HUGE fucking hypocrite who just sold away the futures of you, your kids, your grandkids, and their kids to feather my nest FOR LIFE! When you’re worrying about how you’re gonna afford to pay your mortgage, I’m gonna be lobbying to shovel even more of this nation’s wealth into my pocket. I GOT MINE, SO FUCK YOU!”

112
Targetpractice  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:13:42am

Oh lord…

With that said, there is a lesson to be learned when an attractive, articulate and experienced conservative is elected Speaker of the House, but is limited by powers beyond his control.

He’s not going to sleep with you, Ed.

113
teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:16:01am

Down in the basement a commenter who calls himself “Brian J.” said that if Hillary were elected the F.B.I. would have assassinated her during her term. -19 karma on that comment. I’m positive that he thinks that is some sort of accomplishment. It sad and pathetic. During elections (any election of consequence, mind you) he provides superb reporting and analysis. Other than that, he’s kind of a shithead.

All I’m saying is, keep an eye out. Remember Killgore Trout.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:21:23am

re: #111 Targetpractice

And what it says is “I am a HUGE fucking hypocrite who just sold away the futures of you, your kids, your grandkids, and their kids to feather my nest FOR LIFE! When you’re worrying about how you’re gonna afford to pay your mortgage, I’m gonna be lobbying to shovel even more of this nation’s wealth into my pocket. I GOT MINE, SO FUCK YOU!”

More like, “I got yours, so fuck you.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:23:00am

re: #113 teleskiguy

Down in the basement a commenter who calls himself “Brian J.” said that if Hillary were elected the F.B.I. would have assassinated her during her term. -19 karma on that comment. I’m positive that he thinks that is some sort of accomplishment. It sad and pathetic. During elections (any election of consequence, mind you) he provides superb reporting and analysis. Other than that, he’s kind of a shithead.

All I’m saying is, keep an eye out. Remember Killgore Trout.

Not sure which basement you refer. I don’t know who Killgore Trout is (I assume one of the people who flounced from here before I joined).

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:26:38am

re: #115 Anymouse 🌹

Not sure which basement you refer. I don’t know who Killgore Trout is (I assume one of the people who flounced from here before I joined).

Killgore Trout was a reliable regular, until Occupy Wall Street. He went off the deep end after that. It’s still very confusing to me.

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:32:08am

re: #115 Anymouse 🌹

Not sure which basement you refer.

We refer to the previous comment thread as “downstairs.” I was referring to a comment that was on two or three previous threads, hence the “basement.”

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:34:17am

Yes, this is real life.

119
teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:35:42am

Oh damn. Miloš Forman died. I adore his films.

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:38:27am

The People Vs. Larry Flynt.

I saw it in the theater three times and again and again on home media. I showed it to friends in college and in my ski bum circles. Love that fuckin’ flick. Directed by the late Miloš Forman.

121
Dr Lizardo  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:42:02am

re: #119 teleskiguy

Oh damn. Miloš Forman died. I adore his films.

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Yeah, just saw that myself - turned on TV and ČT1 is reporting on it. It’ll be big news here.

122
wheat-dogg  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:44:14am

I am back from package-fetching.

I picked up a VGA cable and the $90 desktop I bought used works fine. It even has Windows 7 installed already (Chinese language, natch), but it’s the 32-bit version while the CPU is 64-bit. But, no biggie, since I intend to double-boot with Ubuntu 64-bit anyways.

The package was the soap I ordered. I know you were all wondering.

123
teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:48:00am

True story.

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Kragar  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:52:08am
125
I cannot.  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:54:51am

re: #116 teleskiguy

Oh boy…that was some weird shit, probably older Lizards have much crazier stories, but damn. I know he was LOLing about that one cop casually spraying some protester on a campus, and I think he also posted a lot of pictures of graphic violence (ISIS?).

The first part I’m sure of, the second part I am not certain of.

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:06:42am

re: #125 I cannot.

probably older Lizards have much crazier stories

I gained membership to LGF (it was mostly closed in those days, you just had to be there) right around the Great LGF Creationist Purge. Yeah, shit has been weird around here, always has.

I like it weird.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:09:30am

re: #126 teleskiguy

I gained membership to LGF (it was mostly closed in those days, you just had to be there) right around the Great LGF Creationist Purge. Yeah, shit has been weird around here, always has.

I like it weird.

Weird is good.

Plus I learn a lot from all you weirdos.

128
freetoken  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:09:45am

Oh yes, the good days of creationists, dowsers, and the like.

129
freetoken  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:11:05am

Well, finished paying my taxes.

Now what do I do with the remaining eight cents in my bank account?

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:11:33am

re: #128 freetoken

Oh yes, the good days of creationists, dowsers, and the like.

I would have had a blast (no).

Speaking of weird:

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:12:58am

re: #129 freetoken

Well, finished paying my taxes.

Now what do I do with the remaining eight cents in my bank account?

As Leona Helmsley said: Taxes are for little people.

I must be as rich as Helmsley, since I haven’t paid taxes in a long time (something something poverty line)

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:13:35am

re: #126 teleskiguy

Great LGF Creationist Purge

This is ground zero of the Great LGF Creationist Purge. If you never saw this, the comments from former LGF folk in this thread will blow your mind.

133
freetoken  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:14:10am

I was promised the miracle tax break would put money in my pocket.

My federal taxes this year are the same as last year.

134
Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:15:44am

re: #132 teleskiguy

This is ground zero of the Great LGF Creationist Purge. If you never saw this, the comments from former LGF folk in this thread will blow your mind.

I think I’ve seen it before, but I’ll go read it again.

Our esteemed host Mr. Johnson’s Website is quite a bit different now than before I crawled in the mouse hole.

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:15:58am

re: #129 freetoken

Well, finished paying my taxes.

Now what do I do with the remaining eight cents in my bank account?

I got a two dollar refund from the feds. I owed the state of Colorado $20. Suffice to say I made very little money in 2017. It was pretty shitty.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:16:05am
137
freetoken  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:17:46am

re: #134 Anymouse 🌹

One comment of mine in that thread got me a -17 balance on dings.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:19:56am

re: #116 teleskiguy

Killgore Trout was a reliable regular, until Occupy Wall Street. He went off the deep end after that. It’s still very confusing to me.

Everything about Killgore makes perfect sense once you realize he was a die hard contrarian.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:20:33am

re: #136 Anymouse 🌹

The United States has accepted only 11 Syrian refugees this year.

For the money we spend on bombs and missiles and planes we could put thousands of refugees on cruise ships and send them to Tahiti…

140
I cannot.  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:20:46am

re: #137 freetoken

Have an extra upding to help you catch up. :-P

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:21:31am

re: #138 goddamnedfrank

Everything about Killgore makes perfect sense once you realize he was a die hard contrarian.

Yes, I have friends like that. And they refuse to understand that the media often plays to people like that: broadcasting a particular point of view just to get them to froth at the mouth and pound the table in protest.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:25:05am

re: #137 freetoken

One comment of mine in that thread got me a -17 balance on dings.

Yikes. How dare you stand up for the scientific method.

littlegreenfootballs.com freetoken Apr 20, 2008 • 2:16:53pm -17

re: #28 Sharmuta

So is global warming and that has nothing to do with religion. In fact- global warming makes certain scientists look like a cult themselves.

I see we are going to make this into a science-fest…

Scientists are fully capable of cult-thinking… like every other person.

However, man made/enhanced global warming is very well founded in basic science and is itself not “cult” like. The body of scientific knowledge accumulated over the last 5 centuries is what it is… an accumulation of observations and ever increasingly accurate theories.

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:25:24am

re: #137 freetoken

One comment of mine in that thread got me a -17 balance on dings.

That’s ‘cause of your godless ways!

Over and over in that thread… “Have you accepted Jesus into your heart?”

Yeah. LGF has definitely *evolved.*

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:26:50am

re: #141 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, I have friends like that. And they refuse to understand that the media often plays to people like that: broadcasting a particular point of view just to get them to froth at the mouth and pond the table in protest.

I don’t want to know what liquid is used to pond a table. /s

145
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:27:53am

I joined LGF around 2007 and noticed that although they were politically conservative in a lot of ways, they did not suffer creationist fools gladly. I saw that as a positive sign.

And that with only a few exceptions, even the conservative voices were capable of conducting a discussion without it turning into an ad hominem shouting match.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:28:27am

re: #144 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t want to know what liquid is used to pond a table. /s

spilled coffee

147
teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:30:43am

re: #145 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I joined LGF around 2007 and noticed that although they were politically conservative in a lot of ways, they did not suffer creationist fools gladly. I saw that as a positive sign.

And that with only a few exceptions, even the conservative voices were capable of conducting a discussion without it turning into an ad hominem shouting match.

LGF has always been firmly fact-based. You say something here? It better be true. If it isn’t, folks are going to ask you to prove it. That’s a pleasant constant here.

148
Nyet  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:32:30am

re: #147 teleskiguy

LGF has always been firmly fact-based.

“Always” as in “since about 2009”. ;)

149
I cannot.  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:32:37am

re: #132 teleskiguy

Holy shit, that thread is over 5 TBoggs long, it nearly choked Chrome.

150
teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:34:09am
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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:35:21am

re: #148 Nyet

“Always” as in “since about 2009”. ;)

Fuckin’ fuck. God damn. You know it! LGF is weird like that.

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freetoken  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:35:33am

We have to keep in mind that post 9/11 the newly popular thing of “blogs” became the collecting venues for the computer owner.

Today Twitter and Facebook take that role, which is why the death-of-blogging idea has been pushed the past couple of years.

I don’t think blogging is dead, it’s just not the short-fuse gossip network that it was in 2002, given Twitter is now the gossip-fest-machine.

Anyway, LGF started off as the toy of Charles (a musician with an inner nerd) and his love of cycling and music was evident.

When 9/11 happened, this blog like so many others became fixated on the aftermath.

The reaction to 9/11 was a real test of this country. In some ways we failed, I think, in living up to our ideals, but, on the other hand, many Americans did push back against irrational hatred. It’s hard to say we took the high moral ground, given the punish-the-Arabs war that Cheney et. al. pushed on GWB and the rest of the US establishment (who because of 9/11 fell all to easily to questionable reasoning about why going to war is a good thing.)

The post-9/11 crowd here had a strong reactionary contingent. Yet, there were some of us who were not really “right-wing” (whatever that means in the end.)

I registered here while I was living in Japan. In those days, during the GWB administration, LGF played a role for me to remain connected to the daily social-feeling here in the US.

Eventually Charles had to free himself of the reactionary right that had clung onto this blog. I’m glad he did, because as these things always go - angry crowds eventually turn into lynching mobs - keeping the hate-right around was only going to make things uglier, especially as the 2008 election approached.

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:38:46am

re: #152 freetoken

Charles has created a cool fuckin’ thing here. And it’s an *evolving* thing. Us humans didn’t stop evolving with opposable thumbs.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:40:26am

re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

spilled coffee

Cocoa libelz.

Wow, that is one crazy set of comments (the creationist purge). I’ve bookmarked that for future reference if I need a view into crazy that is not Alex Jones.

155
freetoken  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:43:24am

re: #154 Anymouse 🌹

What’s really sad is I still see going around Facebook memes pushing Stein as being a victim and the tyranny of liberals because of it, etc. Stein is still milking his marks.

156
Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:43:50am

I’m an oldz. Blogging killed my BBS. (That, and PCs over my Commodore.)

By your standards here, Freetoken, I am a neophyte to this place, considering when I joined.

I imagine reading some of those old posts prior to the “creationist purge” I would have been torn to shreds here.

(To be clear, some of my comments get that anyway, deservedly so. I suspect in the “old days” here I would not have lasted a week.)

157
Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:57:12am

Just, wow.

DesertSage Apr 20, 2008 • 2:19:03pm -1

re: #66 gmsc

OK, since you’re jumping on the anti-Stein bandwagon, why don’t you answer my question-

Who or what created the Primordial Soup?

Huh?

90 JeremyR Apr 20, 2008 • 2:21:59pm 0

re: #77 MandyManners

No Campbell’s soups in your grocery store?

Sure we have Campbells, just none of their Primordial Soup. Tomato, and Chicken noodle are both big hits arround here.

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 2:01:01am

re: #157 Anymouse 🌹

Things change for the better sometimes.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 2:04:32am

re: #158 teleskiguy

Things change for the better sometimes.

They evolve to adapt to their new environmental conditions. /s

My morning newspaper tells me they will be late delivering due to the blizzard. The roads are not yet cleared.

160
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 14, 2018 • 2:18:04am

I didn’t participate in the Stein mega-string for some reason. I was back from Iraq by then and should have been around somewhere. Like Charles and some others here, I was actually shocked at the prevalence and virulence of the creationist superstition among then-lizardoids. The subject had rarely come up and had not been as politicized as it would be later, and is now. Even free republic had a pro-evolution faction, long since completely extinct. Looking back on it, I think it was during that period, 2007-8, that the right wing really took control of anti-science and weaponized it as a political force.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 2:21:17am

Wow, that creationism thread is so full of logical fallacies you should be able to get a discount by the peck. /s

For example, six people thought this a good argument:

150 DesertSage Apr 20, 2008 • 2:31:43pm 6

I see the evolutionists (or the anti-creationist’s) people here are spinning like crazy….but not one of them has answered my simple question:

WHO CREATED THE PRIMORDIAL SOUP!

Just answer that one, that’s all.

ad hominem: evolutionists is not a thing. The correct term is biologists. Anti-creationist is not a thing either. Creationism has not met the burden of proof (presented evidence to support its assertions).

affirming the consequent: If there is a primordial soup, it must have been created (and therefore there is a creator)

shifting the burden of proof: Just answer that one—up to the creationist to support his position

Wow, I only have a high school education and I think I get the scientific method better than the majority of the creationist commentators on that thread. Claiming eugenics damaged the theory of evolution, Margret Sanger promoted eugenics, all the classics. It is a two thousand comment thread of ad hominem after unsupported assertion after equivocation fallacy (“it’s just a theory”).

I wonder what happened to all those people after they flounced from here?

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teleskiguy  Apr 14, 2018 • 2:21:23am
163
Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 2:22:34am

The decorative apostrophe in “creationist’s” was a nice touch.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 14, 2018 • 2:46:31am

re: #163 Anymouse 🌹

The decorative apostrophe in “creationist’s” was a nice touch.

In wingnut schools they teach you that an apostrophe means: ‘Here comes an “s”.’

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 2:49:56am

re: #164 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

In wingnut schools they teach you that an apostrophe means: ‘Here comes an “s”.’

Yeah I wouldn’t have lasted long here. Note the attack is for a non-sequitur, not for the racism:

290 Spiny Norman Apr 20, 2008 • 2:58:24pm 6

re: #280 Roger

So is the negro or white man closer the ape?

WTF?

You might just win the prize for the most ridiculous non-sequitur of the thread. Congrats!

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 2:57:25am

I’m going to have to limit myself to reading that thread in chunks over several days. My liver won’t take that much rum.

I’m out for the night. I’ll catch y’all later. Try to preserve the Republic whilst I sleep… .

167
Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 3:17:52am

Last quote.

Apparently in the Great Creationist Purge, misrepresenting the Bible for Intelligent Design was appropriate:

374 Roger Apr 20, 2008 • 3:15:33pm 1

re: #358 TalkinKamel

Hebrews 11:3 says there are more forces involved during creative/design phases though. Darwinists never study these inactive forces while ID’ers do. Darwinists assume that all forces/’pressures’ are known.

——

Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. (Hebrews 11:3, KJV)

“Faith” being an appropriate way to study anything.

Moreover, science studies all sorts of things which are “not made of things which do not appear” (electromagnetism, gravity, evolution by natural selection, &c)

With that, I’m out. G’night from Tumbleweed Terrace.

168
MsJ  Apr 14, 2018 • 4:05:02am

I’m starting to think this guy needs to go to prison.

169
lawhawk  Apr 14, 2018 • 4:44:27am

Greets and saluts from the resistance in the NYC metro area.

Trump yesterday went out and had his spokeshacks claim that Russia wasn’t tipped off and that this was done without Russia’s knowledge.

Fancy that that Trump lied once again.

Trump was telegraphing that the US would hit Syria for the chemical weapons usage.

Turns out he explicitly warned Russia.

How do we know this happened? Russia had the ships depart Syrian port days before the raid. That’s more proof of the kayfabe that was going on.

And we also know that this was a one-shot deal. There’s no sustained effort and we’ll quickly learn that Trump fired a bunch of missiles that didn’t much of anything (or churned rubble). Those precision strikes precisely hit the intended target: trying to get people to focus on anything but the corruption and criminality in Trumpworld.

It was intended to get media to focus not on Cohen and his lies to Congress about the Prague visit that corroborates yet another part of the dossier on Trump. It was intended to deflect attention.

It’s up to the media to stay on target. Far too many in the media are being used and abused by the admin or are intent on carrying water for the admin so as to maintain their access.

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Varek Raith  Apr 14, 2018 • 4:56:02am

re: #169 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the resistance in the NYC metro area.

Trump yesterday went out and had his spokeshacks claim that Russia wasn’t tipped off and that this was done without Russia’s knowledge.

Fancy that that Trump lied once again.

Trump was telegraphing that the US would hit Syria for the chemical weapons usage.

Turns out he explicitly warned Russia.

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How do we know this happened? Russia had the ships depart Syrian port days before the raid. That’s more proof of the kayfabe that was going on.

And we also know that this was a one-shot deal. There’s no sustained effort and we’ll quickly learn that Trump fired a bunch of missiles that didn’t much of anything (or churned rubble). Those precision strikes precisely hit the intended target: trying to get people to focus on anything but the corruption and criminality in Trumpworld.

It was intended to get media to focus not on Cohen and his lies to Congress about the Prague visit that corroborates yet another part of the dossier on Trump. It was intended to deflect attention.

It’s up to the media to stay on target. Far too many in the media are being used and abused by the admin or are intent on carrying water for the admin so as to maintain their access.

My shocked face, let me…
Ah hell, I ain’t got one anymore.
:P

171
lawhawk  Apr 14, 2018 • 4:58:46am

re: #170 Varek Raith

Or:

Unfu….

Nope… totally fucking believable.

172
Varek Raith  Apr 14, 2018 • 5:02:02am

WINNING

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 14, 2018 • 5:21:12am

re: #29 Anymouse 🌹

I have arrived! The Nebraska Democratic Party now has me up on their slate of candidates for the election!

nebraskademocrats.org

My existence is confirmed!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 14, 2018 • 5:23:07am

Pathetic. This popped up at FB about an hour ago:

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2018 • 5:25:26am

He’s up.

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freetoken  Apr 14, 2018 • 5:25:54am

Before he changed to his successful format, I used to listen to Art Bell at night while he was doing a standard current-affairs program.

It was always a bit dryly “libertarian” in that sort of wild-west way. Art would have real curmudgeons call in and complain about the government, etc.

I suspect that Art realized, while having his studio in Vegas, that what makes entertainment popular is the audacity of it all.

His successful show, when he made it all about the fringe, had it’s high moments. At the height of surge of talk-radio, Art’s image would be center of the poster for Premier Radio Network and then Clear Channel, among all the other hosts they syndicated, even edging Limbaugh out of the main spot on the card.

Still, I think Bell’s success gives us a warning about America - that we’re a society of minds twisted by false information and magical beliefs. Bell was vastly superior to his rivals who tried similar stuff.

There were always conspiracy hosts on the radio, but Bell beat them all by being very entertaining. He also had the advantage that he knew quite a bit about radio, the engineering and physics, compared to his competitors, and could sound very, very convincing because of it.

I always wondered if he was surreptitiously paid by the government to spread false information about Area 51 and the testing facilities in the desert.

His worse shows were, I think, when he had on con-men like Whitley Strieber. These guests were very good at fictional stories, and many people bought into them.

Bell was a “worker” in the carney sense.

He was at his best when the callers provided the entertainment. And Phil Hendrie probably did call in as some of the weirder characters. There was one character, a preacher whose name I forget, that was quite the send-up of fundamentalists.

Anyway, Art Bell, RIP.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 14, 2018 • 5:28:34am

re: #174 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Pathetic. This popped up at FB about an hour ago:

that is weapons-grade stupid

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2018 • 5:32:17am
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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2018 • 5:36:37am

Mission Accomplished.

What was the mission.

What was accomplished.

He can’t identify either.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 14, 2018 • 5:39:08am

re: #179 lawhawk

Mission Accomplished.

What was the mission.

What was accomplished.

He can’t identify either.

The mission was, “distract the media and everybody from the investigation that is closing in around me like a noose.” In that regard, it was accomplished spectacularly - for a few days, until the next figurative bombshell lands… at which time there will, no doubt, be more literal bombshells to continue the distraction.

Morning Lizardim from the edge of Snowmageddon. We got a couple of inches of snow to stick last night, and the 40+ mph winds continue unabated. The heavy stuff is supposed to hit tonight, so I have prepped as best I can and we’ll just see what happens.

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2018 • 5:42:11am

re: #180 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Mueller’s investigation continues - whether media covers it or not.

And that’s ultimately the important thing.

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lawhawk  Apr 14, 2018 • 5:42:51am
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 14, 2018 • 5:45:08am

re: #181 lawhawk

Mueller’s investigation continues - whether media covers it or not.

And that’s ultimately the important thing.

I don’t disagree with you. I’m just explaining the rationale of what happened last night. Trump felt he needed to distract everybody from Cohen, so he did, in the stupidest way possible. The fact that it doesn’t actually change anything is good, but irrelevant to his line of thinking.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 14, 2018 • 5:45:54am

re: #179 lawhawk

Mission Accomplished.

I have images of General Santa Ana parading through the smoking ruins of the Alamo declaring “Mission accomplished!”

Get it, Alamo mission?

ha ha

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 14, 2018 • 5:47:18am

re: #182 lawhawk

If tRump lands on an aircraft carrier and struts around in a flight suit I’m going to go out of my fucking mind.

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freetoken  Apr 14, 2018 • 5:48:08am

One nasty looking image for the middle of April:

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 14, 2018 • 5:51:06am

re: #186 freetoken

One nasty looking image for the middle of April:

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Yeah, I’m right in that dark blue/orange/purple area that you see. I’m probably going to be here a while, too.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 14, 2018 • 5:51:17am

re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have images of General Santa Ana parading through the smoking ruins of the Alamo declaring “Mission accomplished!”

Get it, Alamo mission?

ha ha

*WHACK!*

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makeitstop  Apr 14, 2018 • 5:52:33am

Checking Natasha Bertrand’s Twitter feed, the last two tweets are people talking about how they stayed in Germany and took a bus to Prague with no passport check or stamp.

The only ‘mission’ he ‘accomplished’ last night was drowning out the bad news for a couple of hours.

Nothing went away. Nothing.

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William Lewis  Apr 14, 2018 • 5:52:43am

re: #185 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If tRump lands on an aircraft carrier and struts around in a flight suit I’m going to go out of my fucking mind.

Thank god he’s scared of ships!

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freetoken  Apr 14, 2018 • 5:53:16am

Here’s the high temperature map:

New Jersey will be in the 80’s while at the same latitude in Nebraska the temp might get up to the low 20’s.

On traditional tax day (though of course payments are not due to Tuesday.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 14, 2018 • 5:59:13am

re: #185 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If tRump lands on an aircraft carrier and struts around in a flight suit I’m going to go out of my fucking mind.

that is one thing that even he would find undignified…

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makeitstop  Apr 14, 2018 • 5:59:59am

That Wohl kid continues to be one stupid motherfucker.

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MsJ  Apr 14, 2018 • 6:10:05am
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Ace Rothstein  Apr 14, 2018 • 6:15:39am

re: #153 teleskiguy

We didn’t choose the LGF life, the LGF life chose us.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 14, 2018 • 6:18:08am

re: #189 makeitstop

Checking Natasha Bertrand’s Twitter feed, the last two tweets are people talking about how they stayed in Germany and took a bus to Prague with no passport check or stamp.

The only ‘mission’ he ‘accomplished’ last night was drowning out the bad news for a couple of hours.

Nothing went away. Nothing.

I’ve done that; I’ve traveled to Berlin, Vienna, Rome, Bratislava all without any passport checks or stamps whatsoever. This is all in the Schengen area.

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jeffreyw  Apr 14, 2018 • 6:30:49am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 6:33:26am

Meanwhile in Jesusland the Religious Right is whooping it up because they believe Armageddon is at hand.

They’re going to get the shock of their lives when JC pulls a no show.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 14, 2018 • 6:35:59am

re: #198 Joe Bacon 🌹

Meanwhile in Jesusland the Religious Right is whooping it up because they believe Armageddon is at hand.

They’re going to get the shock of their lives when JC pulls a no show.

Jeez, I forgot that aspect of it: these people are really looking to Trump to precipitate the Second Coming

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wheat-dogg  Apr 14, 2018 • 6:41:13am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Jeez, I forgot that aspect of it: these people are really looking to Trump to precipitate the Second Coming

He’s about 9 days early.

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dangerman  Apr 14, 2018 • 6:46:49am

re: #34 Belafon

I wonder how many replies there are before someone says Obama didn’t ask for authorization?

i havent read down the thread yet, so apologies if covered

obama attacked al-Qaeda / ISIS - which congress sort of let pass under the aumf
last night was an attack on syria the country - quite a different thing and not covered by the aumf

i wonder if it could be used as the basis of an impeachment.. hmm

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 14, 2018 • 6:47:28am
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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 14, 2018 • 6:52:16am

Looking for a way off a sinking ship, might as well take this off ramp.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 14, 2018 • 6:53:51am

re: #203 b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)

Looking for a way off a sinking ship, might as well take this off ramp.

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Bahahahaha. Air strikes in Syria are the hill these fuckers are going to die on? Where was this outrage in 2017?

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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 14, 2018 • 6:58:28am

re: #204 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Bahahahaha. Air strikes in Syria are the hill these fuckers are going to die on? Where was this outrage in 2017?

Any port in the storm, a full on invasion of Iran would be ok though. I have enough headaches without trying to do wingnut logic.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 6:58:39am

re: #203 b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)

Give the boys a week and they’ll get back in line to kiss Trump’s ass!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 14, 2018 • 6:59:07am

re: #206 Joe Bacon 🌹

Give the boys a week and they’ll get back in line to kiss Trump’s ass!

Yeah, there is that.

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dangerman  Apr 14, 2018 • 6:59:23am

re: #133 freetoken

I was promised the miracle tax break would put money in my pocket.

My federal taxes this year are the same as last year.

for the 2018 tax year due 4/15/19
i mean if you believe the nonsense

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:00:21am

re: #189 makeitstop

Checking Natasha Bertrand’s Twitter feed, the last two tweets are people talking about how they stayed in Germany and took a bus to Prague with no passport check or stamp.

The only ‘mission’ he ‘accomplished’ last night was drowning out the bad news for a couple of hours.

Nothing went away. Nothing.

That’s exactly how I got to Prague from Berlin.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:02:20am

re: #206 Joe Bacon 🌹

Give the boys a week and they’ll get back in line to kiss Trump’s ass!

Yep.

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I cannot.  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:04:25am

re: #203 b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)

I hope everyone that responds is using a version of the Evergreen tweet I used earlier (it wasn’t my original thought however, but it’s always appropriate)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:04:25am
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Dr. Matt  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:07:16am

John Bolton’s nipples have been erect for 12 hours straight.

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Belafon  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:09:14am
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I cannot.  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:09:53am

re: #213 Dr. Matt

*MENTAL IMAGE*

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scottslemmons  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:10:01am

re: #174 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Pathetic. This popped up at FB about an hour ago:

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That guy follows a friend of mine who used to be the Democratic chair in Lubbock. He moved to Montana a year or more back, and he still gets these loons who jump onto everything he posts to scream nonsense at him. He finally unfriended one of them who was quite possibly psychotic recently, months later than he should’ve. His patience for nutbags is a lot stronger than mine… :/

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:10:05am

re: #169 lawhawk

And we also know that this was a one-shot deal. There’s no sustained effort and we’ll quickly learn that Trump fired a bunch of missiles that didn’t much of anything (or churned rubble). Those precision strikes precisely hit the intended target: trying to get people to focus on anything but the corruption and criminality in Trumpworld.

But, but the WaPo just posted that the Pentagon said;

Pentagon says allied strike took out the ‘heart’ of Syria’s chemical weapons program but Assad retains ‘residual’ capability

…..

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:11:22am

re: #174 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Pathetic. This popped up at FB about an hour ago:

What an “ameba”?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:12:51am

re: #218 Colère Tueur de Lapin

What an “ameba”?

cannot help but think of

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:19:35am

With Trump’s bloviating this morning, how soon before France and England will regret having their military being put at risk just to feed his ego…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:20:44am

re: #220 GlutenFreeJesus

With Trump’s bloviating this morning, how soon before France and England will regret having their military being put at risk just to feed his ego…

They have strategic interests in the area that go back a very long time. Being in bed with Trump is just the price they pay for maintaining them.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:22:28am

re: #213 Dr. Matt

John Bolton’s nipples have been erect for 12 hours straight.

Among other…things.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:23:37am

re: #213 Dr. Matt

John Bolton’s nipples have been erect for 12 hours straight.

then he should have called a doctor at least eight hours ago

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:25:42am
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wheat-dogg  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:26:38am

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

Talk about stimulus-response. GOP congressmen are only slightly better than amoeba.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:27:49am

I’m actually re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Jordan’s a sad hack.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:28:33am
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dangerman  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:29:00am

re: #29 Anymouse 🌹

I have arrived! The Nebraska Democratic Party now has me up on their slate of candidates for the election!

nebraskademocrats.org

My existence is confirmed!

i read that whole website
I don’t see “Anymouse”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:31:04am
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plansbandc  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:32:16am

re: #174 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Ooh. That’s a bright fellow.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:34:11am

re: #228 dangerman

i read that whole website
I don’t see “Anymouse”

He’s probably Anonymous.

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Belafon  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:36:18am

re: #174 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Pathetic. This popped up at FB about an hour ago:

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I would love for someone like this to explain the stickleback evolving from saltwater to freshwater fish in Alaska: gizmodo.com.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:36:48am

in Philly:

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plansbandc  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:38:39am

re: #198 Joe Bacon 🌹

/Y9v4rXpWz30HuuSZJn/1RNDvd3KEi8COeA2jDx293dWkFSobAUGz7YdwktbSnfwe2olEE4Z4zF10HIIl5HK3JuF/nqtQGHlIpBVZWKqiYeV/54P9Hvp9fCoukK4hG8bZU2oQelERIIGjlMRV9t0bSIx9/N+64HvH5crvCIFdOcjGyRtLZ1SQiOvsCEGStRTMnAXTEunRNcxgnHklVxEHaf7Gx0gRrQoNjYhUOAYq2ez6bo6p08Xwg==

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:38:53am

re: #232 Belafon

I would love for someone like this to explain the stickleback evolving from saltwater to freshwater fish in Alaska: gizmodo.com.

Won’t faze them. If a crocodile doesn’t evolve into a duck at one go, they won’t admit it’s evolution.

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fern01  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:40:00am

re: #220 GlutenFreeJesus

With Trump’s bloviating this morning, how soon before France and England will regret having their military being put at risk just to feed his ego…

If they are stupid enough to go along with anything this administration says/does, they deserve some consequences. I will rant forever about Blair supporting GW Bush. If he hadn’t the USA may have rethought going into Iraq.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:41:33am

Annie’s upset

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:44:44am

re: #225 wheat-dogg

Talk about stimulus-response. GOP congressmen are only slightly better than amoeba.

Amoeba don’t deserve this insult!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:45:24am
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fern01  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:49:26am

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

His whole conversation had nothing to do with the question - regardless of mentioning Hillary Clinton. He was asked about trump pardoning Libby - and spoke about Comey, Rosenstein and Cohen.

He should have been called on that & cut off well before he got to Sec Clinton.

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Belafon  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:53:18am

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

in Philly:

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:58:33am

re: #237 wheat-dogg

Annie’s upset

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Haha.

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fern01  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:59:51am

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

in Philly:

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How do you ever stop people doing this? You can fire the staff who called the police, but they’ll get a job at another coffee shop. You can never make it right for the people who were kept in jail until 2am. I hope they sue - but even that won’t stop it happening again and again.

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MsJ  Apr 14, 2018 • 7:59:53am

re: #222 Ace Rothstein

Among other…things.

Especially other…things.

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dangerman  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:07:33am

re: #240 fern01

His whole conversation had nothing to do with the question - regardless of mentioning Hillary Clinton. He was asked about trump pardoning Libby - and spoke about Comey, Rosenstein and Cohen.

He should have been called on that & cut off well before he got to Sec Clinton.

none of them will do it

no one has the balls to say “please answer the question i asked”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:09:56am
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Renaissance_Man  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:10:18am

re: #243 fern01

How do you ever stop people doing this? You can fire the staff who called the police, but they’ll get a job at another coffee shop. You can never make it right for the people who were kept in jail until 2am. I hope they sue - but even that won’t stop it happening again and again.

You create a culture where racism is a shameful thing. You make it clear culturally that racists should be ashamed of themselves, instead of being told that their racism is just another point of view, and that anyone who calls them out on it is a fascist trying to suppress their freedom of speech. You create a culture where the most powerful institutions in it condemn this sort of behaviour, instead of normalising and encouraging it.

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calochortus  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:13:57am

re: #247 Renaissance_Man

You create a culture where racism is a shameful thing. You make it clear culturally that racists should be ashamed of themselves, instead of being told that their racism is just another point of view, and that anyone who calls them out on it is a fascist trying to suppress their freedom of speech. You create a culture where the most powerful institutions in it condemn this sort of behaviour, instead of normalising and encouraging it.

A culture where racists and the like are viewed as weak and are treated with disdain. Not fear and outrage.

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Belafon  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:14:05am

re: #247 Renaissance_Man

You create a culture where racism is a shameful thing. You make it clear culturally that racists should be ashamed of themselves, instead of being told that their racism is just another point of view, and that anyone who calls them out on it is a fascist trying to suppress their freedom of speech. You create a culture where the most powerful institutions in it condemn this sort of behaviour, instead of normalising and encouraging it.

And you keep standing up to it and reporting it. We needed to find out it was happening.

As much as we all shit on Twitter, as long is it allows people to report these things, it will continue to provide an important service.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:15:41am
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dangerman  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:23:56am

re: #248 calochortus

A culture where racists and the like are viewed as weak and are treated with disdain. Not fear and outrage.

a culture where people don’t even think that way
(a guy can dream, cant he?)

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calochortus  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:26:53am

re: #251 dangerman

Yup.
Speaking of dreams, we had friends over for dinner last night and one of them said his dream was that there would be a Dem majority in the House come 2019 and Trump and Pence were ousted together. Hello President Pelosi. :)

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JordanRules  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:27:53am

re: #248 calochortus

A culture where racists and the like are viewed as weak and are treated with disdain. Not fear and outrage.

I disagree. We don’t have enough outrage or understand that fear can be a survival mechanism for those targeted by racism. Fear should not stop those who aren’t targeted from being affirmatively and loudly anti-racist though.

We didn’t have enough outrage in the 30s either.

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JordanRules  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:29:14am
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calochortus  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:29:41am

re: #253 JordanRules

Fair point. We can keep appropriate fear and outrage as long as needed.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:31:40am

The ventriloquist is speaking at the UN now.

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JordanRules  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:32:56am

Thread.

This timeline in particular really struck me.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:34:39am

Haley, shut the fuck up.

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JordanRules  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:37:34am

re: #258 Ace Rothstein

Haley, shut the fuck up.

There are so many horrible and horribly incompetent people in this regime that she escapes a lot of notice.

She’s terrible and in that role she makes us less safe.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:42:08am

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kittens learning are the funniest.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:42:11am

re: #37 wheat-dogg

Here is the governor of Kentucky managing to offend everyone, even people in his own party.

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JordanRules  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:43:01am
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JordanRules  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:43:55am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:44:23am

re: #257 JordanRules

Thread.

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I simply cannot imagine. My mom’s parents are and were around the same age as Murray. They grew up poor as immigrant miners’ children in South central Pennsylvania and they had their share of hardships but nothing like that. I’m glad we still have men and women like Murray and others with us that remind us that the Holocaust was a real event. And I appreciate Stephen for telling his grandpa’s story. Tough guy. I would have died early on I feel like.

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dangerman  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:44:27am

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

Unless @GovMattBevin gives this same sermon on snow days, I’m guessing he’s more concerned about teacher rallies than kids.

And the weekends
What are we going to do about weekends?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:48:49am
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Renaissance_Man  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:49:06am

re: #265 dangerman

And the weekends
What are we going to do about weekends?

If we reopen all the coal mines, kids can go there on weekends, where they’ll be safe.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:51:31am

re: #267 Renaissance_Man

::: eye roll :::
I rather have kids tip cows than go into a coal mine.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:52:38am

re: #268 PhillyPretzel

::: eye roll :::
I rather have kids tip cows than go into a coal mine.

It’s safer.

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Teukka  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:53:06am

re: #267 Renaissance_Man

If we reopen all the coal mines, kids can go there on weekends, where they’ll be safe.

re: #268 PhillyPretzel

::: eye roll :::
I rather have kids tip cows than go into a coal mine.

Song Related: Tennessee Ernie Ford - 16 Tons

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Alephnaught  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:56:50am

re: #265 dangerman

And the weekends
What are we going to do about weekends?

Or evenings.

In fact, why doesn’t Mr Bevin go the whole hog, and call for banning parents from raising children, just to be on the safe side.

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stpaulbear  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:57:48am

re: #268 PhillyPretzel

::: eye roll :::
I rather have kids tip cows than go into a coal mine.

Better yet, the kids could watch Lou Reed cow tipping.

The Little Willies - Lou Reed (song)

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dangerman  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:59:17am

re: #271 Alephnaught

Or evenings.

In fact, why doesn’t Mr Bevin go the whole hog, and call for banning parents from raising children, just to be on the safe side.

Some people are just stunningly stupid

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 14, 2018 • 8:59:44am

OT My subscription to The Wall Street Journal is expiring soon. It is a decent paper but I am not too happy with the slant of the articles. I am thinking of getting a digital subscription to The Washington Post. If I do should I get the subscription through my Apple Apps or through amazon? I have heard there are problems with both platforms but they are “manageable.”

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JordanRules  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:02:22am

re: #274 PhillyPretzel

OT My subscription to The Wall Street Journal is expiring soon. It is a decent paper but I am not too happy with the slant of the articles. I am thinking of getting a digital subscription to The Washington Post. If I do should I get the subscription through my Apple Apps or through amazon? I have heard there are problems with both platforms but they are “manageable.”

I think Amazon would help Charles if you use the affiliate link.

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stpaulbear  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:02:51am

re: #274 PhillyPretzel

OT My subscription to The Wall Street Journal is expiring soon. It is a decent paper but I am not too happy with the slant of the articles. I am thinking of getting a digital subscription to The Washington Post. If I do should I get the subscription through my Apple Apps or through amazon? I have heard there are problems with both platforms but they are “manageable.”

I just bought mine directly from WaPo. No problems with it.

Edit: except it was more expensive that way.

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The Major  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:06:06am

re: #274 PhillyPretzel

It looks like WaPo via Amazon may be the better way to go….

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:08:07am

What a morning here in Los Angeles. Had a few thoughts on the air strike so Paged with a pretty neat live map from Wiki. It’s designed to show the civil war, not last nights air battle of course but is instructive on who is where.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:08:57am

there it is: automatic default white reaction to these incidents

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mmmirele  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:09:57am

Just had some sibling bonding time with my brother while watching the UN Security Council on CSPAN.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:16:49am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:18:03am
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:19:15am

re: #253 JordanRules

I disagree. We don’t have enough outrage or understand that fear can be a survival mechanism for those targeted by racism. Fear should not stop those who aren’t targeted from being affirmatively and loudly anti-racist though.

We didn’t have enough outrage in the 30s either.

I have no fear when it comes to standing up for someone who is being harassed by a racist. I have no problem getting in a racist’s face and backing them down. I make sure of it. I don’t care if my kids are with me. Fear won’t stop me from being the example they need to see and be.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:23:08am
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Skip Intro  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:23:34am

re: #206 Joe Bacon 🌹

Give the boys a week and they’ll get back in line to kiss Trump’s ass!

It won’t take that long.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:24:13am

I wonder if the cops would have been called if a white guy with an AR-15 sat down at Starbucks for awhile without ordering anything?

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JordanRules  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:27:43am

re: #283 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I have no fear when it comes to standing up for someone who is being harassed by a racist. I have no problem getting in a racist’s face and backing them down. I make sure of it. I don’t care if my kids are with me. Fear won’t stop me from being the example they need to see and be.

The best kind of badass!! ;)

And when others see you do it, you help strip away some of their fear too.

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Skip Intro  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:29:00am

re: #272 stpaulbear

Better yet, the kids could watch Lou Reed cow tipping.

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That reminds me the other day I was at the grocery store and they were playing “Walk on the Wild Side”, then followed it with Neil Young’s “The Needle and the Damage Done”.

I payed and left so I don’t know if they followed those up with the Ramones “Teenage Lobotomy” or “I Want to be Sedated”.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:29:59am

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Charle, you shouldn’t be calling anyone a moron after you tweeted that Trump had more women in high cabinet spots than any President than history. And Gorka? As the man said, you couldn’t even pass your security clearance.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:30:14am

re: #287 JordanRules

The best kind of badass!! ;)

And when others see you do it, you help strip away some of their fear too.

That’s my thinking. Show everyone that it can be done and it’s not as scary as they think it might be.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:30:19am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:30:49am

re: #291 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Granny Starver to the bitter end. God Ryan disgusts me.

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Alephnaught  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:32:28am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content: ] The “fixer” Mr. Cohen (aka the real Ray Donovan) organized a protest - BIGLY - in Florida last night against my client. As usual, his execution was flawless. #impressive

The “real Ray Donovan”? Ouch!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:33:07am
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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:33:20am

re: #169 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the resistance in the NYC metro area.

It was intended to get media to focus not on Cohen and his lies to Congress about the Prague visit that corroborates yet another part of the dossier on Trump. It was intended to deflect attention.

It’s up to the media to stay on target. Far too many in the media are being used and abused by the admin or are intent on carrying water for the admin so as to maintain their access.

I’m seeing people online saying this was in no way a wag-the-dog show because why would the UK and France help Trump do that?

It is an interesting question and one to ponder. Not sure how I would answer that one myself.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:36:06am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:41:27am
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:42:11am

re: #297 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Yup. Right now there’s a bit of a lull in the snowfall, and we’ve got just a few inches on the ground. The forecast calls for up to and slightly over an inch an hour for the next 8 hours. You do the math.

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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:45:16am

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

R. Saddler 📎🗽🌊
@Politics_PR
Katy Tur Challenged A GOP Congressman To Answer A #TrumpRussia Question Without Saying Hillary Clinton. He Couldn’t Do It. j.mp #TheResistance

10:22 AM - Apr 14, 2018

Of course the GOP Congressman is Jim Jordan of Ohio.

He only has one script…how could he come off it, he wouldn’t know what else to say.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:46:48am
The Trump administration is abandoning a Justice Department threat to crack down on recreational marijuana in states where it is legal, a move that could enable cannabis businesses in California and other states that have legalized pot to operate without fear of federal raids and prosecution.
President Trump personally directed the abrupt retreat, which came at the behest of Republican Sen. Cory Gardner of Colorado. White House officials confirmed the policy shift Friday. Trump did not inform Atty. Gen. Jeff Sessions in advance of the change in policy, an almost unheard of undermining of a Cabinet official.

latimes.com

Kayfabe again

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:48:42am

re: #297 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

January 104?

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:49:22am

re: #281 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Big payload on that rocket

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:50:02am

re: #301 PhillyPretzel

January 104?

Looong winter

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A Cranky One  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:50:37am

re: #301 PhillyPretzel

January 104?

Must be correct, because it doesn’t snow like that in April.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:50:38am

re: #303 Unshaken Defiance

Very loonngggg.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:51:24am

re: #295 ObserverArt

I’m seeing people online saying this was in no way a wag-the-dog show because why would the UK and France help Trump do that?

It is an interesting question and one to ponder. Not sure how I would answer that one myself.

Novochok and children dying in chlorine did it. Imho

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:51:29am

re: #301 PhillyPretzel

January 104?

I would think it’s a “This winter is never ending” joke

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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:51:52am

re: #245 dangerman

none of them will do it

no one has the balls to say “please answer the question i asked”

Ari Melber on MSNBC would and often does.

He did it to some GOP talking head excuser yesterday, Shut the guy right up and reminded him it was his show, his questions and you answer the questions asked.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:52:36am

re: #302 Unshaken Defiance

Big payload on that rocket

They will go to space today.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:53:50am

Sometimes you miss by a little and sometimes ya miss by miles. That would be me.
littlegreenfootballs.com

Any truth to the rumor Putin gave his Syria anti air missileeers the weekend off ‘cause obvious bluff is obvious?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:55:49am

my shock…

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plansbandc  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:56:42am

Albuquerque decriminalized marijuana. A good solid first step to legalization. I think if NM gets a Dem Governor, legalized recreational may actually happen.

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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:57:11am

re: #263 JordanRules

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I hope that poor lawnmower kid grows up okay. He’s got a ton of memes he is going to have to live down.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 9:58:05am
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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:00:23am

re: #271 Alephnaught

Or evenings.

In fact, why doesn’t Mr Bevin go the whole hog, and call for banning parents from raising children, just to be on the safe side.

How would that work with his anti-abortion stances?

“All children are wards of the state. We do with them what we please.” - Matt Bevin most likely.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:00:58am

re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s not befitting for a President to do everything that Trump does but that hasn’t stopped your party, Ms. Blondemodel #7000

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:00:59am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:01:29am

re: #318 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Bullshit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:03:48am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:07:20am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:08:34am
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:09:12am

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So in other words, just like last year?

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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:11:19am

re: #318 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m okay with the Libby pardon.

Just so long as Dickless Cheney is tossed in jail as a trade-off.

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scottslemmons  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:12:17am

re: #318 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s amazing how completely the mask has been stripped away from Judith Miller, largely by her own words and actions. And Maggie Haberman’s probably on the same path…

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The Major  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:12:39am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:13:02am

heh

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dangerman  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:15:17am

re: #308 ObserverArt

Ari Melber on MSNBC would and often does.

He did it to some GOP talking head excuser yesterday, Shut the guy right up and reminded him it was his show, his questions and you answer the questions asked.

you are right of course

i meant directly to trump

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JordanRules  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:16:16am
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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:17:26am

re: #322 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I saw her on MSNBC yesterday. She ran the whole GOP talking points script, no wavering.

I wish someone in the media asked her why she had to drop the Romney part of her name from Ronna Romney McDaniel.

Did she do it to appease Trump and why, and if she did was it demanded or were you just kissing his butt? And is kissing Trump butt the main part of your job?

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Kragar  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:21:11am
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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:23:48am

re: #328 dangerman

you are right of course

i meant directly to trump

Oh, I would pay for watching Ari Melber and/or Rachel Maddow interview Trumpy.

Speaking of Rachel. Next week she is going to have Jim Comey on her show. I think they said Tuesday night but I wasn’t paying close attention so it could be Thursday.

Anyway, I think it will be good TV. She will ask questions others are not asking. Giving her a whole week from first getting a copy of the book and listening to other takes and comments to the interview will give her plenty of time to sharpen those questions.

I expect her to go after the Hillary emails, etc., more than other journalists.

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dangerman  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:27:32am

re: #332 ObserverArt

Oh, I would pay for watching Ari Melber and/or Rachel Maddow interview Trumpy.

Speaking of Rachel. Next week she is going to have Jim Comey on her show. I think they said Tuesday night but I wasn’t paying close attention so it could be Thursday.

Anyway, I think it will be good TV. She will ask questions others are not asking. Giving her a whole week from first getting a copy of the book and listening to other takes and comments to the interview will give her plenty of time to sharpen those questions.

I expect her to go after the Hillary emails, etc., more than other journalists.

she’s a good, dare i say it, fair, balanced, and detailed model in these days

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JordanRules  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:31:12am
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retired cynic  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:40:50am

re: #228 dangerman

i read that whole website
I don’t see “Anymouse”

I found him. He is hidden under his name in Broadwater.

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The Major  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:42:51am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:45:07am

re: #337 The Major

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Charle, you’re nowhere near as clever as you think you are. Just shut up for once and actually listen to people rather than being a patronizing blowhard Ben Shapiro ripoff.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 10:45:50am

Goddamn these millennial right wingers are tedious as fuck.

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jaunte  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:02:03am

Charlie Kirk, white child born yesterday, questions concept of trying to rebalance 500 years of race-based social policy.

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Belafon  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:08:41am

re: #337 The Major
Race may only be a social construct but racism is very real.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:11:36am

re: #341 Belafon

Race may only be s asocial construct but racism is very real.

Exactly. But don’t tell Charlie that. It’s too complicated for his right wing ass.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:15:44am
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Belafon  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:17:06am

re: #337 The Major

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:17:41am

OT To Charles and my fellow Lizards I am now signed up with The Washington Post through the amazon associate link post near the top of this website. I currently am in the 6 month free subscription for amazon prime customers. I was able to sign in on my ipad and it seemed to work.

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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:17:45am

re: #339 HappyWarrior

Goddamn these millennial right wingers are tedious as fuck.

I think one of the problems is they are “acting” like previous conservative political bomb throwers so they just become cheap imitators. Nothing original and full of old cliches they don’t even know the history of origin.

They see the attention that the Hannitys, Limbaughs, Coulters and the like get and think, hey if I say these things and act like they do I can be paid like them and make it a career.

Fakes in other words.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:19:31am

re: #346 ObserverArt

I think one of the problems is they are “acting” like previous conservative political bomb throwers so they just become cheap imitators. Nothing original and full of old cliches they don’t even the history of origin.

They see the attention that the Hannitys, Limbaughs, Coulters and the like get and think, hey if I say these things and act like they do I can be paid like them and make it a career.

Fakes in other words.

Sad thing gude is they think they’re being edgy when they’re really just cheap knock offs.

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nowherenorth2  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:19:44am

Checking cnn and I cannot help but think that cilliza has lost it more so than before. His recent articles are super hot mess and literally observations a child makes.

Good God. It hurts me to even read them, like 11 hottakes on quotes from the come excerpt and the pardoning of scooter and why it was done.

Journalistic integrity has left him long ago, but this shit…it is goddamn ridiculous and a mockery of journalism

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:27:12am

re: #348 nowherenorth2

Just ignore him like I do. More fun that way.

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nowherenorth2  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:28:59am

re: #349 Eclectic Cyborg

I usually do, went to the site and looked at those things and banged my head on the desk. Just so ugh

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:30:29am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:39:50am

re: #351 Backwoods_Sleuth

Of course not. He’s Putins buddy and Putin owns Trump. What’s to be worried about?

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dangerman  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:40:01am
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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:44:35am

re: #353 dangerman

Paul Ryan

We always knew you were a fake

Nice explanation of Ryan with this simple paragraph:

So how did such an obvious con artist get a reputation for seriousness and fiscal probity? Basically, he was the beneficiary of ideological affirmative action.

Hahahahaha. So true and such a dig.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:47:19am

*snerk*

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dangerman  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:51:54am

re: #354 ObserverArt

Nice explanation of Ryan with this simple paragraph:

Hahahahaha. So true and such a dig.

And Krugman pretty much obliterates bothsiderism into clearly “assymetrical”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:52:04am

lengthy thread and it’s one of the reasons I love twitter.
Story starts here:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 11:57:38am

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

in Philly:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:01:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:05:48pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:09:13pm

re: #359 Backwoods_Sleuth

Being completely honest, I have always been under the assumption that a Lemming was a small fish.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:09:30pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:18:54pm
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Belafon  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:21:16pm

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

Of course not, the gun wasn’t in danger.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:24:45pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:28:20pm

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

Soledad O’Brien

@soledadobrien
Fun to see @DLoesch defending guy who shot at black teenager who was asking directions. Guess her “I’m a mom” video doesn’t count for this kid.


10:45 AM - Apr 14, 2018
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I detest Dana but I don’t think that was the point she was making. She may, but very inarticulately, have actually been supporting the teenager.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:30:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:33:10pm

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Reminds me of my grandma with her great granddaughter. Rivers of love indeed. :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:35:58pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:37:33pm

re: #366 Hecuba’s daughter

I detest Dana but I don’t think that was the point she was making. She may, but very inarticulately, have actually been supporting the teenager.

I think you give her more credit than she deserves given how she blamed Castile for his own death and her organization is responsible for the mentality that caused this couple to pull a gun on this kid.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:38:26pm

re: #369 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Jacob could you know enlist but he won’t for the same reason his hero Trump because he’s a big old coward.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:40:17pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:41:31pm

re: #372 Backwoods_Sleuth

Of course Bevin won’t give a shit and promptly shred it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:46:08pm

re: #370 HappyWarrior

I think you give her more credit than she deserves given how she blamed Castile for his own death and her organization is responsible for the mentality that caused this couple to pull a gun on this kid.

Her comments about Castile were unforgivable as are all her remarks concerning the Parkland massacre and, in general, anything she says publicly. But in this case I think she meant that the teenager was not likely to be a burglar because he knocked and that it’s wrong to shoot at someone who is running away. Her phrasing could have been vastly improved but that’s how I read it. Of course, sometimes I do interpret statements in the best light, even when uttered by deplorables.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:50:42pm

re: #374 Hecuba’s daughter

Her comments about Castile were unforgivable as are all her remarks concerning the Parkland massacre and, in general, anything she says publicly. But in this case I think she meant that the teenager was not likely to be a burglar because he knocked and that it’s wrong to shoot at someone who is running away. Her phrasing could have been vastly improved but that’s how I read it. Of course, sometimes I do interpret statements in the best light, even when uttered by deplorables.

I dunno. I’m just reluctant to give her a bod given who she is. I’d be happy to be wrong but my broader point is that her organization encourages this shoot first, ask questions later mentality.

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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:56:43pm

re: #372 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I wonder what was really at the very root of Matt Bevin’s comments about the students having to stay home a Friday (weekday) while teachers are protesting?

People are upset at his comments, as they should be, but are they upset at what I would call the Kentucky cliches that Bevin seems to buy into that led to his conclusion?

And if he does think those cliches are Kentucky, then he has shown the people he governs he has zero respect for them.

I hope they run his ass out. He sure has shown he doesn’t care about Kentucky. He seems to think the people are a bad “joke.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 12:59:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:00:32pm

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Coming from one of the biggest partisan hacks out there, you’re one to fucking talk Glenn. But yeah blame Hillary, I’m sure it will make you feel better about being a pathetic wanker who thinks he’s smarter than everyone else.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:02:12pm

re: #377 Backwoods_Sleuth

As a former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton would have a better idea of how to make Assad comply with UN regulation and possibly remove him from Syria.

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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:02:12pm

re: #375 HappyWarrior

I dunno. I’m just reluctant to give her a bod given who she is. I’d be happy to be wrong but my broader point is that her organization encourages this shoot first, ask questions later mentality.

I agree with Hecuba’s daughter’s assessment.

But where you are right is Dana has been so gun heavy in thinking it is hard to see her in any other light.

Who knows, maybe those idiots at the NRA are starting to get a feel for some moderation and a bit of reality in their commenting. Mind you this would be hard to identify with all their other hard edge bullshit.

But they are going to have a real tough time ever getting back to any position that might be considered even slightly realistic and rational. They have painted themselves into such a tough-ass position they may never be able to overcome it if/when they get new leadership and need to show a different stance on guns and gun controls.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:03:07pm

re: #380 ObserverArt

I agree with Hecuba’s daughter’s assessment.

But where you are right is Dana has been so gun heavy in thinking it is hard to see her in any other light.

Who knows, maybe those idiots at the NRA are starting to get a feel for some moderation and a bit of reality in their commenting. Mind you this would be hard to identify with all their other hard edge bullshit.

But they are going to have a real tough time ever getting back to any position that might be considered even slightly realistic and rational. They have painted themselves into such a tough-ass position they may never be able to overcome it if/when they get new leadership and need to show a different stance on guns and gun controls.

I mean I’d be happy to be wrong but yes on all counts.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:04:39pm

re: #379 PhillyPretzel

As a former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton would have a better idea of how to make Assad comply with UN regulation and possibly remove him from Syria.

Shhh don’t tell Glenn that, it gets in the way of his narrative. Seriously what a pathetic troll he is. He has no real ideology. He just hates the Democrats. The fucked up thing is he was just as hawkish in the Bush years for quite sometime. And I’m sorry but our past and current foreign policy escapades don’t excuse Putin doing what he does at all. That’s not how reality works.

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dangerman  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:04:48pm

re: #334 JordanRules

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maybe ot, that’s a can a day hair habit

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dangerman  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:05:55pm

re: #336 retired cynic

I found him. He is hidden under his name in Broadwater.

wait, you all have other names?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:10:20pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:11:51pm

re: #384 dangerman

wait, you all have other names?

Sure.

Mine is John Q. Public.

There might be others here by the name John Q. or Jane Q. too.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:13:11pm

re: #384 dangerman

wait, you all have other names?

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dangerman  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:13:37pm

re: #362 Backwoods_Sleuth

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i had a horse do that to me one
i was trail riding and drifting
he (she?) just decided to laydown and try to roll, saddle and all

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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:15:47pm

re: #386 ObserverArt

Sure.

Mine is John Q. Public.

There might be others here by the name John Q. or Jane Q. too.

John Doe.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:19:23pm

re: #385 Backwoods_Sleuth

Replying to @NBCNews
Amb. Haley: “We are prepared to sustain this pressure if the Syrian regime is foolish enough to test our will.” pic.twitter.com

NBC News

@NBCNews
Amb. Haley: “I spoke to the president this morning and he said, ‘If the Syrian regime uses this poisonous gas again, the United States is locked and loaded.’” pic.twitter.com
10:40 AM - Apr 14, 2018

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So our plan is to allow them to use chemical weapons, give them several days warning to move weapons to a safe place, and then bomb when it does minimal damage. And do nothing to help the refugees or Syrian people. Of course, Trump is only following Putin’s orders.

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dangerman  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:19:46pm

re: #375 HappyWarrior

I dunno. I’m just reluctant to give her a bod given who she is. I’d be happy to be wrong but my broader point is that her organization encourages this shoot first, ask questions later mentality.

i think you and hecuba are both right

the times we live in / stopped clock, etc

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dangerman  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:22:30pm

re: #385 Backwoods_Sleuth

Amb. Haley: “I spoke to the president this morning and he said, ‘If the Syrian regime uses this poisonous gas again, the United States is locked and loaded.

what kind of “diplomat” talks like this?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:22:58pm

re: #392 dangerman

what kind of “diplomat” talks like this?

An American one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:23:33pm

re: #391 dangerman

i you and hecuba are both right

the times we live in / stopped clock, etc

personally, I believe dana’s statement is completely incorrect about burglars.
Many burglars do indeed knock. Either no one is home and it’s safe to enter the house, or it’s an elderly person who opens the door and the burglars pretend to be people working in the the neighborhood and they need to distract the owner.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:24:19pm

re: #393 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

An American one.

an American diplomat in the Era of Trump Media Reality

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:27:25pm

re: #373 Eclectic Cyborg

Of course Bevin won’t give a shit and promptly shred it.

And all Bevin has to say is “Jesus, Jesus, Jesus” and he will be re-elected in a landslide.

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dangerman  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:27:48pm

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

personally, I believe dana’s statement is completely incorrect about burglars.
Many burglars do indeed knock. Either no one is home and it’s safe to enter the house, or it’s an elderly person who opens the door and the burglars pretend to be people working in the the neighborhood and they need to distract the owner.

well now you’re just applying logic and analysis and that’ll never do
/s

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:46:35pm

re: #336 retired cynic

I found him. He is hidden under his name in Broadwater.

LOL.

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The Major  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:52:45pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:55:19pm

Llre: #399 The Major

[Embedded content]

Yes they were. Are you tired of winning yet, Lucas?

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 1:57:08pm

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m guessing they will never go back unless they got a personal apology and changes are made in that store.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 14, 2018 • 2:03:35pm

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

personally, I believe dana’s statement is completely incorrect about burglars.
Many burglars do indeed knock. Either no one is home and it’s safe to enter the house, or it’s an elderly person who opens the door and the burglars pretend to be people working in the the neighborhood and they need to distract the owner.

They (and meth cookers) also seek out rural places with lots of elderly people like this to do their work.

If said burglars aren’t prepared for a person in the house when the owner knocks, they can simply make up any excuse to the owner (where does Mr. Smith live, I’m looking for a telephone, &c) and try again later.


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