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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:47:52am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:48:03am

cannot watch in Germany due to copyright restrictions, alternate link?

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:49:11am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:51:40am
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ObserverArt  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:57:32am

re: #3 JordanRules

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I mentioned that Rachel Maddow will be having Comey on sometime (Tuesday, Thursday?) next week.

Others had him on right away last week. I hope Comey is ready because Rachel is going to have some time to prepare, and some of it will be with others at MSNBC.

I think she can make him squirm. It will be fun seeing an FBI guy under the spotlight and not treated as some hero but a person in government with his own likes and dislikes, flaws, etc.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:03:02pm

Personally I rather have a POTUS that did not make the SNL writing so easy to do.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:06:29pm

re: #5 ObserverArt

I mentioned that Rachel Maddow will be having Comey on sometime (Tuesday, Thursday?) next week.

Others had him on right away last week. I hope Comey is ready because Rachel is going to have some time to prepare, and some of it will be with others at MSNBC.

I think she can make him squirm. It will be fun seeing an FBI guy under the spotlight and not treated as some hero but a person in government with his own likes and dislikes, flaws, etc.

Looking forward to that.
Almost gave him props for going then I remembered she’s the #1 cable news show now (woot!) so that’s just smart for book sales.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:11:09pm

Hmmm

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:12:41pm

re: #8 JordanRules

I agree. Hmm. Is this just another way to “handle” DT?

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:13:25pm

re: #1 JordanRules

Thinking about this. I think, ultimately, it would be a good idea. Two years of being taken to bote with your parents would help establish a voting pattern.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:16:00pm

re: #10 Belafon

Thinking about this. I think, ultimately, it would be a good idea. Two years of being taken to bote with your parents would help establish a voting pattern.

I think 18 is a reasonable age for drinking, voting and doing all the other things that adults do.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:17:05pm

re: #9 PhillyPretzel

I agree. Hmm. Is this just another way to “handle” DT?

Right. I think everyone tries to handle him. Putin being the successful one.
I hope Macron also gets that he could change his mind any minute. It’s always chaos.

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jaunte  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:19:56pm

Don’t all germaphobes live on anonymously prepared fast food?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:20:42pm
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jaunte  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:23:31pm
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sagehen  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:26:13pm

re: #13 jaunte

Don’t all germaphobes live on anonymously prepared fast food?

Supposedly, his affection for anonymously prepared fast food is because it’s already done before it’s ordered, and they don’t know it’s for him.

If he ordered dinner at a real sit-down restaurant, cooks and servers would be spitting in his food. Or worse.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:32:00pm

The storm has arrived, and I have water pouring in from the top of my sliding doors

Knew this was going to happen when they removed & replaced the railings on the balconies above me

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:50:24pm

re: #17 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The storm has arrived, and I have water pouring in from the top of my sliding doors

Knew this was going to happen when they removed & replaced the railings on the balconies above me

Dang. That sounds horrible.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:51:00pm
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Semper Fi  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:53:10pm

re: #17 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The storm has arrived, and I have water pouring in from the top of my sliding doors

Knew this was going to happen when they removed & replaced the railings on the balconies above me

I guess the new balconies are w/o solid floors. Unfortunately, that can result in a mess for you and require installing some sort of deflector coaming above your sliding doors.

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lawhawk  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:58:19pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

I was a day off.

Trump is entirely predictable - both in the lies and his response to his own lies.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 15, 2018 • 12:58:36pm

re: #20 Semper Fi

I guess the new balconies are w/o solid floors. Unfortunately, that can result in a mess for you and require installing some sort of deflector coaming above your sliding doors.

The water is entering the building through large holes in the stucco exterior where the old wood railing used to be.
I get the same leakage during tropical storms/hurricanes. That I assumed came from water entering from where the balcony decks connected to the building. But, that was with much higher wind speeds

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Semper Fi  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:00:09pm

re: #17 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The storm has arrived, and I have water pouring in from the top of my sliding doors

Knew this was going to happen when they removed & replaced the railings on the balconies above me

I re-read your post and saw it must have been solid ‘railings’ instead. Sorry

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MsJ  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:00:37pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:02:55pm

re: #18 Patricia Kayden

Dang. That sounds horrible.

luckily most of the water poured into the door tracks, so it has a method to flow back outside. The splashing and splatter has soaked a bit of the carpet.
Making matters worse, it’s humid as hell (84%), my AC stopped working yesterday and I of course had to close my window & sliding door as the wind & rain arrived

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:06:01pm

re: #25 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

luckily most of the water poured into the door tracks, so it has a method to flow back outside. The splashing and splatter has soaked a bit of the carpet.
Making matters worse, it’s humid as hell (84%), my AC stopped working yesterday and I of course had to close my window & sliding door as the wind & rain arrived

Make that the humidity is up to 94%
But, the exterior temperature has dropped 13 degrees since right before the storm, now in the low 70s outside, and I should be able to crack the window and door soon

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:07:25pm
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Dave In Austin  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:12:39pm

Ok, who’s got the vid of Cohen meeting the goomba’s done to the Sopranos theme song. I can’t find it and I know it’s out there!

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Semper Fi  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:13:09pm

re: #22 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The water is entering the building through large holes in the stucco exterior where the old wood railing used to be.
I get the same leakage during tropical storms/hurricanes. That I assumed came from water entering from where the balcony decks connected to the building. But, that was with much higher wind speeds

Thanks. So you must be located in hurricane country? If so, I’m kinda envious as I’m only familiar with earthquakes, mud slides and flash fires. Not much going-on in the sky.

It would be nice to have a list of all lizards showing some reasonable idea of their location. So many times I read a lizard is experiencing (or about to) extreme weather but I’m w/o any notion of where that might be.

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MsJ  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:16:31pm

re: #27 JordanRules

There’s a sub thread in there that had me all 🤣😂😭.

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Interesting Times  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:16:35pm

Well fancy that:

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Stanley Sea  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:18:28pm
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retired cynic  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:18:46pm

Oh. My Goodness. Charlie Pierce addresses that “thing” we have with all the Republican Never-Trumpers with the best possible essay. Whoop! He is channeling his inner Jim Wright! esquire.com

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retired cynic  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:21:26pm

re: #33 retired cynic

And his final essay of the week:

Since I don’t believe that Trump would know Libby if the latter sat in his lap, I’ve got to believe that this pardon is at least partly a little cookie thrown to Libby’s legal team. But this ties it all up in a nice bow. DiGenova and Toensing became famous for being TV lawyers during the Great Penis Hunt of 1998. They’ve since surfed the Republican sewage-treatment plants for clients, finally washing up in the sludge maelstrom of this White House. Their very presence, and what they’ve just managed to bring about on behalf of Scooter Libby, is all the proof you need of one fundamental fact.

Republicanism simply was Trumpism in waiting, and Trumpism is Republicanism in excelsis.

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The Major  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:22:10pm

Poor Alex Jones….

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lawhawk  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:23:21pm
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:23:29pm

re: #32 Stanley Sea

Thanks. I needed that. rofl

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:25:44pm

re: #36 lawhawk

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I honestly can’t remember a weekend where he’s been at the WH.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:28:20pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

I honestly can’t remember a weekend where he’s been at the WH.

To my knowledge he has only once: During the first brief government shutdown earlier this year. He missed a big party at Mar-a-lago celebrating his first year as President and was apparently very pissed about it.

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Sea Mexican!  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:30:21pm

re: #1 JordanRules

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I would normally think that 16 year olds don’t have the capacity to vote, but after seeing the 2016 elections, it’s not that outlandish.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:31:09pm

re: #39 Eclectic Cyborg

To my knowledge he has only once: During the first brief government shutdown earlier this year. He missed a big party at Mar-a-lago celebrating his first year as President and was apparently very pissed about it.

Yes, that’s the only time I remember. You’re right.

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MsJ  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:34:13pm

re: #33 retired cynic

Oh. My Goodness. Charlie Pierce addresses that “thing” we have with all the Republican Never-Trumpers with the best possible essay. Whoop! He is channeling his inner Jim Wright! esquire.com

That was brilliant. Honestly.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:35:23pm

re: #42 MsJ

That was brilliant. Honestly.

Yeah I caught that earlier. So right on.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:36:36pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

I honestly can’t remember a weekend where he’s been at the WH.

He had to stay during shutdown negotiations in January and was reportedly pissed off about being forced to cancel his planned weekend trip to Mar a Lago.

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allegro  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:38:12pm

So I was hungry and thought a Whataburger grilled chicken melt would hit the spot. Sitting at the window to pay the $5.29 with a $10 bill and .29 change. The kid takes the money but the bill blows out of his hand. We’re both oh shit and he says sit tight he’ll get it. He runs out of the door and reaches for the bill for it to blow away again. I watched him in the rear view window chasing that bill down the parking lot to the street, the fucker blowing just as he reached for it every time. LMAO and feeling a bit heelish for laughing at his pain, trying to straighten up before he got back. I was not successful but it was okay because he was cracking up too.

Some realities are a respite for others.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:42:15pm

re: #44 goddamnedfrank

He had to stay during shutdown negotiations in January and was reportedly pissed off about being forced to cancel his planned weekend trip to Mar a Lago.

That’s right.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:43:26pm

Today’s walk with Rango. Normally, I’d have done his long walk on Saturday and gone for a bike ride today, but Weather Underground convinced me it was going to rain. So far, it’s still pretty damn sunny out.

The view from Rolling Hill in San Mateo. You can see Mt San Bruno and downtown SF.

White California Poppies among the orange ones. Years ago, my Dad told me he didn’t think they existed. I told him it would be a simple mutation in one of the components in the pathway to making the pigment. He said he believed if that happened, it would prevent the plant from developing.

I said, “Dad - this is what I do for a living!”

“April in Paris San Mateo,
“Chestnuts in blossom…”

And here’s the obligatory weekly Rango pic…..

Thanks for the walk, Dad, but can we go home now?
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:48:02pm

re: #47 Blind Frog Belly White

As you know, we are in the closing stages of Snowmageddon here in the wild north country. We have three cats; two live in our basement, but the third lives outside in a heated cat box. However, during this snowpocalypse, the snow drifted over the cat box and made it uninhabitable. The cat disappeared shortly after the major snow began, and I hadn’t seen her in almost 24 hours when I got home from church this morning. Concerned, I asked Mrs. Fish if she had seen the animal, or any paw prints, or anything - any sign that she hadn’t been in her cat box as it closed up. She responded in the negative. I walked over to the back door, and… there is the feline in question, sound asleep on a bare patch of the deck. Panic averted.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:58:45pm

re: #3 JordanRules

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 15, 2018 • 1:59:13pm

re: #48 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Cats have keen survival instincts. Glad you got your buddy back.

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Interesting Times  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:03:32pm

re: #33 retired cynic

Oh. My Goodness. Charlie Pierce addresses that “thing” we have with all the Republican Never-Trumpers with the best possible essay. Whoop! He is channeling his inner Jim Wright! esquire.com

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:03:41pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:04:07pm

Another high level IoT exploit.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:06:09pm

re: #51 Interesting Times

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Trump is their symptom not their illness. They were fucked up prior to Trump. I don’t realistically expect never Trumpers in the GOP to admit that because it would involve being honest not just about past Republican presidents but themselves and their role.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:08:09pm

re: #53 goddamnedfrank

Another high level IoT exploit.

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But it’s just too fucking hard for Twitter to ban Nazis…

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Interesting Times  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:14:10pm

This thread lays out what we already know in a way that makes the stakes starker than ever:

Read the whole thing. It’s impossible for me to choose the best excerpt.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:18:02pm
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dangerman  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:18:13pm

my final comment on the starbucks:

when the police arrived, they should have instantly realized this was not a 911 situation. it was obvious because everyone else in the room already had.

when the men said they were waiting for a friend, the police could’ve stepped back and waited with them.

or as some suggested, could have bought them each a cup of coffee and said “now they’re not trespassing.”

instead the police escalated this

the two cups of coffee would have been a whole lot less expensive than what it’s gonna hopefully cost those officers now, plus starbucks and the Philly taxpayers

its the difference between being a human being vs acting stunningly stupidly

(all that without using the words “white” or “black”)

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:19:18pm

re: #37 PhillyPretzel

Thanks. I needed that. rofl

And, then you got to the thread and the “animal lovers” are lecturing on why that was animal abuse. Morons.

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plansbandc  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:23:32pm

re: #30 MsJ

That’s a bright one right there.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:24:04pm

re: #58 dangerman

And the police should have never been called.

I’m not sure why they would have needed to stay once they assessed everything. They know, like we all do that it’s okay for people to chill there. They should have talked to the manager about that.

It is okay to use those words too though.

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:25:10pm

re: #57 JordanRules

I think Graham is talking about the guy holding the launch codes, not Trump. //

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:27:36pm

re: #47 Blind Frog Belly White

Post walk bedfail…

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dangerman  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:27:53pm

re: #56 Interesting Times

This thread lays out what we already know in a way that makes the stakes starker than ever:

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Read the whole thing. It’s impossible for me to choose the best excerpt.

my vote:

a front for fairly inept white collar crime

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:28:32pm

re: #63 Blind Frog Belly White

Post walk bedfail…

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Me after staying up to watch Beyonce.

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plansbandc  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:29:12pm

re: #63 Blind Frog Belly White

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:31:24pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:37:51pm

re: #67 JordanRules

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“Sure, the whole email server thing was overblown, and Wikileaks dribbling out the DNC and Podesta emails disrupted the usual intraparty healing, and a substantial portion of the electorate are racist and sexist, and the Comey letter broke Clinton’s momentum a week before the election.

“But Democrats have to accept that Clinton was a fatally flawed candidate!!!”

Grrrrrrr…….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:38:42pm

re: #57 JordanRules

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dangerman  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:39:11pm

re: #61 JordanRules

And the police should have never been called.

I’m not sure why they would have needed to stay once they assessed everything. They know, like we all do that it’s okay for people to chill there. They should have talked to the manager about that.

It is okay to use those words too though.

i mentioned that last thread

the problem is almost anything that goes through 911 acquires an aura of legitimacy
there doesnt seem to be any verification or validation

a 911 call saying two guys are sitting in a starbucks “trespassing” should be de-escalated before it goes out over the radio to patrol

the only difference between this and the kansas / swat case is those officers had no way of knowing it was a hoax. (that they might have shot too quickly is a separate matter). this was a public accommodation. and a starbucks. it’s almost their business model . trespass was going to be a stretch to start with.

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:39:12pm

Our dogs:

Zero on the left, Rex on the right

Rex, the tan Chiweenie, is my son’s dog, except he tends to act like he’s my dog. He normally stays in my son’s room, except last night, not only did he not want to stay in there, he stood outside my bedroom door and barked.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:40:43pm

re: #67 JordanRules

Nichols wants the Democrats to become the party he thought the Republicans were. Get rid of Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Elizabeth Warren, and Hillary Clinton. Run more candidates like Conor Lamb, even where the electorate is substantially more progressive.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:41:20pm
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dangerman  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:42:18pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

.@Franklin_Graham: “I just appreciate that we have a man in office that understands the power of prayer and the need for prayer.”

i think it’s an actual miracle taht this guy says stuff like this without his pants combusting on the spot

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allegro  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:42:29pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

If he believed in the power of prayer he wouldn’t be under investigation for obvious and ongoing obstruction.

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:42:46pm

re: #67 JordanRules

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:42:59pm

re: #72 Blind Frog Belly White

Nichols wants the Democrats to become the party he thought the Republicans were. Get rid of Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Elizabeth Warren, and Hillary Clinton. Run more candidates like Conor Lamb, even where the electorate is substantially more progressive.

And tell the Parkland Survivors to sit down and be quiet, and respect the grownups.

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TedStriker  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:43:25pm

re: #74 dangerman

i think it’s an actual miracle taht this guy says stuff like this without his pants combusting on the spot

Or without being struck by lightning.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:43:36pm

this bit from Rep Kay is sarcasm, just in case anyone could not tell:

I hate Bevin with the heat of a thousand suns.
that is all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:46:14pm
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VegasGolfer  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:49:00pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

Went to check out the comments in bevins tweet, and apparently he or his minions blocked me. Snowflake❄️

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:50:25pm

re: #76 Belafon

His take on the 2016 election is like the inverse of the ‘What have the Romans ever done for us?’ scene from “Life of Brian”.

He says the Dems should do what he wants us to because we keep losing to his party. Except his party won because they went against his principles and ideals. And it we went with what he said, and won, who would we be then? Abandon women in leadership positions, because it makes Republican men upset. Abandon blacks and Latinos because they make rural and exurban white people upset. Abandon LGBT folks because they make Conservative voters uncomfortable.

Maybe we should run Mitt Romney in 2020, eh, Tom?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:51:42pm

re: #78 TedStriker

Or without being struck by lightning.

It certainly argues that the god he espouses doesn’t exist.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:52:54pm

THIS MUCH STUPIDS SHOULD HURT

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:54:14pm

re: #81 VegasGolfer

Went to check out the comments in bevins tweet, and apparently he or his minions blocked me. Snowflake❄️

Here are the first few; the rest are pretty much in the same vein:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:54:28pm

re: #84 The Vicious Babushka

THIS MUCH STUPIDS SHOULD HURT

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(insert Nathan Filion GIF here)

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VegasGolfer  Apr 15, 2018 • 2:56:40pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

I probably said he was a fake Christian, they hate that.

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2018 • 3:01:58pm

re: #84 The Vicious Babushka

THIS MUCH STUPIDS SHOULD HURT

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Um, when did he take memos about Trump the candidate or president-elect?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 3:03:33pm
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DodgerFan1988  Apr 15, 2018 • 3:04:38pm

The Alt-Right bigots are out in full force all over Twitter and Youtube, attacking the 2 black men wrongly arrested at Starbucks, calling them thugs and criminals.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 3:12:13pm
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Skip Intro  Apr 15, 2018 • 3:12:23pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Anybody know what church he attended today?

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2018 • 3:13:58pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

Someone should photoshop Pence in there in black-and-white.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 3:16:54pm
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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 3:17:45pm

re: #92 Skip Intro

Anybody know what church he attended today?

The church of bad macaroni and cheese.

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wrenchwench  Apr 15, 2018 • 3:18:17pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Greensboro, NC]

I’ve been on that street. Or one that looked just like it, but with all the poles up. That’s the easiest town to get lost in that I have ever driven through.

Click to Reveal

Fortunately, celticdragon gives very good directions, and lives not far from the nursing home at which I visited my father. Finding her house was easy. I hope she’s unharmed and undamaged.

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dangerman  Apr 15, 2018 • 3:19:31pm

re: #90 DodgerFan1988

The Alt-Right bigots are out in full force all over Twitter and Youtube, attacking the 2 black men wrongly arrested at Starbucks, calling them thugs and criminals.

Officers in @Starbucks incident ‘did absolutely nothing wrong,’ Philadelphia police chief says foxnews.com …

if the police had acted like human beings
two lousy cups of coffee
and a whole lot of people wouldnt be pissed off at another group of cops
and maybe the story that might have come out instead would have put things in an entirely different light

and lastly, the police chief wouldnt be defending anything today.

re: #70 dangerman

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 3:19:38pm
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Cheechako  Apr 15, 2018 • 3:22:10pm

re: #92 Skip Intro

Anybody know what church he attended today?

This one?

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dangerman  Apr 15, 2018 • 3:22:52pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

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if his god exists, franklin’s going to hell for all that false witness stuff he does

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Skip Intro  Apr 15, 2018 • 3:24:52pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

Franklin has a word for his evangelical doctors: Suckers.

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Cheechako  Apr 15, 2018 • 3:31:31pm

re: #99 Cheechako

I’m beginning to think that “church” sign stuffed the toilet.

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Mattand  Apr 15, 2018 • 3:32:02pm

re: #90 DodgerFan1988

The Alt-Right bigots are out in full force all over Twitter and Youtube, attacking the 2 black men wrongly arrested at Starbucks, calling them thugs and criminals.

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A buddy of mine who lives in the Manayunk section of Philly is between gigs and hangs out in that neighborhood’s franchise on occasion. Stays there for a bit to grab the wifi and doesn’t bother to buy anything.

Never been hassled once.

Three guesses what his skin color is.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 3:33:31pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Once again I say that Franky Graham Cracker is an asshole!

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Mattand  Apr 15, 2018 • 3:34:27pm

re: #76 Belafon

Ugh, apparently Radio Free Tom is also Reality Free as well.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 3:50:48pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I hate Bevin with the heat of a thousand suns.
that is all.

I hate the SOB too, but I also believe the voters will re-elect him in a landslide.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 15, 2018 • 3:58:38pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:00:01pm

re: #106 Joe Bacon 🌹

I hate the SOB too, but I also believe the voters will re-elect him in a landslide.

If memory serves, he won pretty narrowly last time didn’t he?

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:00:12pm

re: #107 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

RIP Gunny and Semper Fidelis.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:01:03pm

re: #92 Skip Intro

Anybody know what church he attended today?

After he tweeted himself to another feeble orgasm, President Asshole went to the Cathedral of St. Mulligan!

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ObserverArt  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:02:00pm

re: #72 Blind Frog Belly White

Nichols wants the Democrats to become the party he thought the Republicans were. Get rid of Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Elizabeth Warren, and Hillary Clinton. Run more candidates like Conor Lamb, even where the electorate is substantially more progressive.

I think I heard something like that last national election cycle around these parts of LGF.

Something from the save us from ourselves folder.

Nuts.

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Teukka  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:03:34pm

re: #107 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Damn.

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MsJ  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:04:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:04:34pm

re: #108 Eclectic Cyborg

If memory serves, he won pretty narrowly last time didn’t he?

Bevin got 52.5%; voter turnout was 30.6%

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:10:16pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:11:42pm

Uh oh. Tom Nichols is replying to a tweet o’ mine with… a tweetstorm!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:13:19pm
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Belafon  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:14:11pm

re: #113 MsJ

Who’s hosting the site? Because they don’t have to run it.

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:15:24pm

re: #116 teleskiguy

Uh oh. Tom Nichols is replying to a tweet o’ mine with… a tweetstorm!

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freetoken  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:15:55pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

But the problem is, wingnuts will be triggered by “Loretta Lynch” and thus said wingnuts will be all the more supportive of Trump.

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:17:08pm

re: #120 freetoken

But the problem is, wingnuts will be triggered by “Loretta Lynch” and thus said wingnuts will be all the more supportive of Trump.

It doesn’t really matter on the wingnut end.

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:17:29pm

re: #116 teleskiguy

Dense motherfucker. Master of obfuscation.

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TedStriker  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:18:17pm

re: #107 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Statement from R. Lee Ermey’s long time manager, Bill Rogin:

It is with deep sadness that I regret to inform you all that R. Lee Ermey (“The Gunny”) passed away this morning from complications of pneumonia. He will be greatly missed by all of us.

Semper Fi, Gunny. Godspeed. pic.twitter.com

— R. Lee Ermey (@RLeeErmey) April 15, 2018

re: #112 Teukka

Damn.

Didn’t care for his politics, but I generally liked him in his acting roles.

I can’t imagine any other actor (even as accidental as Ermey was getting into show business) trying to play Gunny Hartman in Full Metal Jacket.

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nines09  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:19:32pm

Driving by and dropping this off.
Have a good one.

Mike and the Moonpies - Road Crew

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:23:42pm

re: #116 teleskiguy

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:24:15pm

re: #122 teleskiguy

Dense motherfucker. Master of obfuscation.

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Tom is against Trump because of the damage Trump is doing that isn’t the damage any other Republican would be doing. Cruz wouldn’t be destroying the State Department. Rubio wouldn’t be wrecking our trading with other countries. None of them would be making us worry they were going to start a nuclear war.

And right now, those are definitely issues that we care about. But, as we’ve said before, they are not our friends, they are the enemy of our enemy. He doesn’t mind lowering taxes on the rich. He doesn’t mind weakening education.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:24:43pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:24:59pm
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Interesting Times  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:26:11pm

This is an interesting perspective:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:29:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:32:44pm
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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:33:29pm
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dangerman  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:34:59pm

re: #116 teleskiguy

Uh oh. Tom Nichols is replying to a tweet o’ mine with… a tweetstorm!

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esquire article went right over tom’s head didnt it?

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The Major  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:36:47pm

re: #116 teleskiguy

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:37:10pm

re: #129 Interesting Times

This is an interesting perspective:

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There is a long history, Dagnes notes, of the U.S. media and public hounding and demonizing women who have sex with married politicians. Dagnes said she is “pleasantly surprised at how seriously the media is taking Ms. Clifford and how responsibly they are reporting on this.” Part of the reason, she said, is how impressive Daniels has been.

The media tends to be drawn in by someone who doesn’t fit their expectations. This paragraph actually reminded me of the media’s treatment of Obama in 2007 and 2008.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:38:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:39:29pm
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William Lewis  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:39:50pm

re: #107 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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RIP Gunny.

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:42:01pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:44:48pm

What time does the Comey show start again?

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dangerman  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:45:22pm

re: #132 JordanRules

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this post still has 77% battery life left

impressive

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:48:16pm

re: #140 Eclectic Cyborg

What time does the Comey show start again?

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allegro  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:49:02pm

re: #134 The Major

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You and the rest of the @GOP are a day late, a dollar short and own @realDonaldTrump’s actions - you all had the last clear chance to do something about it and you failed.

This. I get eyerolls and spines stiffened in supreme offense when I tell Never-Trump Repubs that he IS their party regardless of how they feel about him. When they energetically deny that fact I ask “Then why is your party protecting him and his administration that you acknowledge to be clearly corrupt?”

Amazing how the subject ALWAYS suddenly changes then.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:51:48pm

Interesting tidbit re: R. Lee Ermey

According to director John Boorman, Stanley Kubrick wanted to cast Bill McKinney in the role of Gunnery Sgt. Hartman. However, Kubrick was so unsettled after viewing McKinney’s performance in Deliverance (1972) that he declined to meet with him, saying he was simply too frightened at the idea of being in McKinney’s presence. Kubrick then hired Tim Colceri to play Hartman. Colceri never got to play the role, as former US Marine Corps Drill Instructor R. Lee Ermey, consultant for the Marine Corps boot camp portion of the film, performed a demonstration on videotape in which he yelled obscene insults and abuse for 15 minutes without stopping, repeating himself or even flinching - despite being continuously pelted with tennis balls and oranges. Stanley Kubrick was so impressed that he cast Ermey as Hartman. Colceri was bitter but accepted Kubrick’s consolation prize of a small role as a helicopter door-gunner.

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:53:03pm

It was a sin that the HOF left out The Cars for all this time. Ben Orr never got to see it, ferfuckssake.

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Interesting Times  Apr 15, 2018 • 4:58:22pm

Crap, I hadn’t thought of this angle…

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:00:06pm

re: #138 William Lewis

RIP Gunny.

“But always remember this: Marines die, that’s what were here for! But the Marine Corps lives forever. And that means you live forever!”

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:00:06pm

re: #145 teleskiguy

I mean, this rhythm section was outstanding, a cut above so many pop bands in those days.

Since You’re Gone

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Jay C  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:05:38pm

re: #143 allegro

This. I get eyerolls and spines stiffened in supreme offense when I tell Never-Trump Repubs that he IS their party regardless of how they feel about him. When they energetically deny that fact I ask “Then why is your party protecting him and his administration that you acknowledge to be clearly corrupt?”

Amazing how the subject ALWAYS suddenly changes then.

And it wasn’t that long ago that the subject would usually change to why Democrats “owned” Hillary Clinton’s defeat in 2016 for having the insane notion of running such a “spectacularly flawed” candidate* , and how the Dem Party would be permanent losers unless they “reconnected” with “Real Americans” like the GOP did.

* Maybe a minority opinion, but I still don’t think Hillary was all that bad a candidate. A “spectacularly flawed” nominee like Sec’y Clinton would have lost in a landslide; not the 80,000-vote electoral-college tipping that gave The Yam the win.

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majii  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:05:40pm

re: #145 teleskiguy

“Bon Jovi, The Cars and the late Nina Simone have been inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame”

I was glad to hear about this, and then I thought about Ted Nugent’s recent whining about why he’s not in the R&RHoF. I hope he ends his life without ever becoming a member because he’s a lowdown SOB with an inflated sense of his talent. I suspect he’s steamed because, once again, he’s been passed over for the induction. If this is the case, he should grab one of his guns, hug it as close to his body as he can get it, kiss it and maybe find some comfort in that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:10:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:13:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:15:33pm
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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:20:15pm

re: #146 Interesting Times

Crap, I hadn’t thought of this angle…

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Mmmhmm…

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:28:11pm
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freetoken  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:30:04pm

re: #154 JordanRules

The deconstruction of governance that Trump is bringing about is not totally under Trump’s control. It’s like a guy pushing a large rock at the top of a hill that then rolls downwards - somewhere along the way the rock causes a landslide.

Trump is not dumb, unlike some may portray him. He’s just ultra-narcissistic so when he speaks in public everything has to be about himself. His low language skills in public-speaking are, I think, in part an act, as he knows his marks are among the least educated of the populace.

Trump knows that the more noise he can throw into the legal system in this country the more likely this noise can disrupt any specific action pointed at himself.

In other words, Trump’s tweets attacking Comey are not just the rantings of a wounded animal. They are also an attempt to mess up the works (of the judicial system) so much that Trump can provide cover for himself and his friends, merely by causing so much confusion and in-fighting among the many vested interests in our society.

This is the real cost of Trump for this country - devaluing trust in our legal system and courts, in in devaluing the general comity in the polity.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:30:43pm

Little Feat “Dixie Chicken”

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:34:07pm
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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:38:33pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:38:44pm

Senate Sunday: North Dakota’s Heidi Heitkamp Laughed at Trump’s Invitation to Join the Dark Side (Wonkette, more at the link).

Red state Democrats need love too, if we want to flip the House, Senate, and local offices.

If there’s a theme to this year’s hopes for Democrats to take back the Senate, it’s that every goddamn seat matters. Progressives might wish for a whole Senate full of Elizabeth Warrens and Sherrod Browns, but they won’t be part of a Democratic majority at all if we don’t also defend seats held by centrist Democrats in red states, because that’s the math. Oh, and also because centrist Dems vote the way we’d prefer a hell of a lot more regularly than any “moderate” Republican ever would, as evidenced by the support of Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins for the Big Fat Tax Cuts For Rich Fuckwads Act of 2017, which not incidentally killed Obamacare’s individual mandate. Somehow, pointing that out makes us despicable corporate shills, which is why it’s so much fun being a liberal these days.

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:40:25pm

re: #156 freetoken

Trump is not dumb, unlike some may portray him. He’s just ultra-narcissistic so when he speaks in public everything has to be about himself. His low language skills in public-speaking are, I think, in part an act, as he knows his marks are among the least educated of the populace.

No, must disagree. He’s also dumb. Fundamentally incurious about any aspect of the world outside of himself. His low language skills appear genuine, rather than an act, since he doesn’t display any greater command when speaking to a more educated audience. He hasn’t used any part of his conscious mind to consider anything other than his own howling need for approval for so long that the things we would normally consider to be normal cognitive functions have atrophied.

To be honest, I almost consider that he might qualify for innocence by virtue of mental defect - perhaps not legally, but functionally. I genuinely believe that he doesn’t have the capacity to tell right from wrong, which might be pitiable in another person, but since he is sociopathic, this manifests in a profound cruelty and inability to tell when others are in pain, other than a vague sense of mental pleasure at the thought of inflicting it. I do believe he doesn’t think anything he’s done is wrong, because it wouldn’t occur to him that breaking the law, if indeed he even knows what the law is, or purposely hurting people might be wrong.

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:40:35pm

re: #159 JordanRules

Let me finish that for you, Sheriff: “A firing offense.”

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dangerman  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:42:10pm

re: #149 Jay C

And it wasn’t that long ago that the subject would usually change to why Democrats “owned” Hillary Clinton’s defeat in 2016 for having the insane notion of running such a “spectacularly flawed” candidate* , and how the Dem Party would be permanent losers unless they “reconnected” with “Real Americans” like the GOP did.

* Maybe a minority opinion, but I still don’t think Hillary was all that bad a candidate. A “spectacularly flawed” nominee like Sec’y Clinton would have lost in a landslide; not the 80,000-vote electoral-college tipping that gave The Yam the win.

A “spectacularly flawed” nominee likely wouldn’t have been nominated in the first place

She was not spectacularly flawed. There were enough people determined to see her not succeed

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jaunte  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:43:32pm
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dangerman  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:44:07pm

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Prosecutors are examining money flowing in and out of the LLC as part of its probe into Cohen

The LLC
Those are the tax returns I want to see

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freetoken  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:44:29pm

re: #161 Renaissance_Man

If you look at old videos of Trump, from when he was a young man, his manner of speech is more typical of the average person who has gone to school.

Now, aging can bring about idiosyncratic changes to personalities, and it is possible that Trump has had some sort of deterioration in his ability to communicate.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:45:10pm

re: #156 freetoken

The deconstruction of governance that Trump is bringing about is not totally under Trump’s control. It’s like a guy pushing a large rock at the top of a hill that then rolls downwards - somewhere along the way the rock causes a landslide.

Trump is not dumb, unlike some may portray him. He’s just ultra-narcissistic so when he speaks in public everything has to be about himself. His low language skills in public-speaking are, I think, in part an act, as he knows his marks are among the least educated of the populace.

Trump knows that the more noise he can throw into the legal system in this country the more likely this noise can disrupt any specific action pointed at himself.

In other words, Trump’s tweets attacking Comey are not just the rantings of a wounded animal. They are also an attempt to mess up the works (of the judicial system) so much that Trump can provide cover for himself and his friends, merely by causing so much confusion and in-fighting among the many vested interests in our society.

This is the real cost of Trump for this country - devaluing trust in our legal system and courts, in in devaluing the general comity in the polity.

So you’re saying that it’s actually a Bug in a Trump-suit? We all know they thrive on chaos!

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:45:28pm

re: #166 freetoken

If you look at old videos of Trump, from when he was a young man, his manner of speech is more typical of the average person who has gone to school.

Now, aging can bring about idiosyncratic changes to personalities, and it is possible that Trump has had some sort of deterioration in his ability to communicate.

I definitely think it’s deterioration. We’ve seen him lose his way several times too.

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Sea Mexican!  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:45:31pm

re: #161 Renaissance_Man

No, must disagree. He’s also dumb. Fundamentally incurious about any aspect of the world outside of himself. His low language skills appear genuine, rather than an act, since he doesn’t display any greater command when speaking to a more educated audience. He hasn’t used any part of his conscious mind to consider anything other than his own howling need for approval for so long that the things we would normally consider to be normal cognitive functions have atrophied.

I don’t think both statements contradict each other. Sure, we expect some sort of inteligence from someone in his position (rich con man). Rarely people are savant in these things, but it has happened.

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:46:51pm

re: #166 freetoken

If you look at old videos of Trump, from when he was a young man, his manner of speech is more typical of the average person who has gone to school.

Now, aging can bring about idiosyncratic changes to personalities, and it is possible that Trump has had some sort of deterioration in his ability to communicate.

He clearly has. Mild dementia plus many years of watching FOX. It has eroded what mental agility he had, and it manifests in his endless repetition and empty bloviating when asked a question that he clearly doesn’t understand.

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:47:44pm

re: #167 Feline Fearless Leader

So you’re saying that it’s actually a Bug in a Trump-suit? We all know they thrive on chaos!

Giphy

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:48:16pm
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freetoken  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:49:48pm

re: #170 Renaissance_Man

Even if true, I’m not going to give him a pass for his ill manner and cynical manipulation of the religious America.

Still, I’m proposing that Trump’s attack on Comey, the FBI, etc. are not just the rantings of an old person suffering dementia.

They are very clearly about undermining faith in our justice system.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:53:54pm
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Renaissance_Man  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:54:40pm

re: #173 freetoken

Even if true, I’m not going to give him a pass for his ill manner and cynical manipulation of the religious America.

Still, I’m proposing that Trump’s attack on Comey, the FBI, etc. are not just the rantings of an old person suffering dementia.

They are very clearly about undermining faith in our justice system.

I would never give an evil man a pass for such blatant cruelty.

I think the rantings on Comey and the FBI are definitely an attack on the justice system. A deliberate, calculated attack on the rule of law, with the intent to destroy the institutions that still hold America together.

But they aren’t a deliberate calculation on the part of Trump. He lacks the ability to think of it. The existence of American institutions and their stability is not something that he would think about, because they’re not named Donald Trump, and ergo don’t really exist in his mind.

They are, though, a deliberate calculation on the part of the people who do the programming for FOX. They know the effect their programming has on their cult. And they get feedback, in real time, on it, through his tweets. They are instituting this attack on the justice system, and acting through their puppet in the White House to do it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:54:45pm

re: #163 dangerman

A “spectacularly flawed” nominee likely wouldn’t have been nominated in the first place

She was not spectacularly flawed. There were enough people determined to see her not succeed

This. Going all the way back to the Arkansas Project. If Hillary Clinton was so badly flawed, then Bernie Sanders, Martin O’Malley, Lincoln Chaffee, Jim Webb, or Lawrence Lessing would have won the primaries.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:57:53pm

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wow. A marriage of seventy-three years is a hell of a long run. President and Mrs. Bush must really love and care for each other. I wish them well.

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 5:58:36pm
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dangerman  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:00:28pm

re: #176 Anymouse 🌹

This. Going all the way back to the Arkansas Project. If Hillary Clinton was so badly flawed, then Bernie Sanders, Martin O’Malley, Lincoln Chaffee, Jim Webb, or Lawrence Lessing would have won the primaries.

Right back at ya
This and Why is this notion so effing hard?

Clinton did not win the dem primary the way that trump won the general

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:05:18pm

re: #179 dangerman

Right back at ya
This and Why is this notion so effing hard?

Clinton did not win the dem primary the way that trump won the general

It’s hard for anyone to admit they backed the wrong candidate, or backed a loser.

Hence you get all the “Bernie would’ve won” or “both sides are bad so I’m voting for Stein/Johnson/Martians/Snoopy”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:12:09pm
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jaunte  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:12:48pm

re: #116 teleskiguy

Uh oh. Tom Nichols is replying to a tweet o’ mine with… a tweetstorm!

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Here’s some recent news for Tom:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:12:54pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

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freetoken  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:13:06pm

re: #180 Anymouse 🌹

It’s hard for anyone to admit they backed the wrong candidate, or backed a loser.

Not only that, but I suspect that the poisoning-of-the-well that has been done against the Clintons for 30 years really has affected even self declared “progressives” and “liberals”.

Way back when, namely the early 1980’s, when I first became more aware of politics and society, information flowed mostly through the major TV networks, then the major newspapers, and some radio networks.

It was pretty easy to totally miss out on anything not in one’s local community.

Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas, a state in which the Democratic party had for a long time been associated with Confederates. When he and some other southern Democrats made their attempt at a “middle way” for the Democratic party to appeal to more whites in the South, I think the backlash against the Clintons took germ.

Not just in the Republicans, who had since incorporated George Wallace’s bigoted followers, but also among some Democrats from outside of middle America, a kernel of resentment arose against the Clintons.

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jaunte  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:14:07pm
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Belafon  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:19:14pm

re: #184 freetoken

Not only that, but I suspect that the poisoning-of-the-well that has been done against the Clintons for 30 years really has affected even self declared “progressives” and “liberals”.

Way back when, namely the early 1980’s, when I first became more aware of politics and society, information flowed mostly through the major TV networks, then the major newspapers, and some radio networks.

It was pretty easy to totally miss out on anything not in one’s local community.

Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas, a state in which the Democratic party had for a long time been associated with Confederates. When he and some other southern Democrats made their attempt at a “middle way” for the Democratic party to appeal to more whites in the South, I think the backlash against the Clintons took germ.

Not just in the Republicans, who had since incorporated George Wallace’s bigoted followers, but also among some Democrats from outside of middle America, a kernel of resentment arose against the Clintons.

And the GOP has been targeting her since Bill became governor. They knew she was a threat all the way back then.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:19:26pm

thread

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mmmirele  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:22:33pm

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

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One of my practicing lawyer buddies in NYC just posted this to Facebook:

Trump’s lawyers tonight filed a motion in the Cohen case (they’ve already been permitted to intervene). Basically the President wants preliminary review of all materials seized so he can assert privilege before the FBI “dirty team” sees it. It seems very unlikely to me that a judge will grant this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:23:05pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:24:59pm

re: #188 mmmirele

One of my practicing lawyer buddies in NYC just posted this to Facebook:

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:25:22pm

re: #184 freetoken

Well, it’s complicated, but I imagine that was part of it. This state used to routinely vote for Democrats but flipped to the Republicans. (It was interesting that Barack Obama drew an electoral vote here in 2008 though.)

Democratic messaging in a place like this is something like the Wonkette article about Heidi Heitkamp above. The same message that would get Elizabeth Warren elected in Massachusetts would get her pummeled here.

Sen. Heitkamp seems to be far better than any so-called moderate the GOP would put up for election. (Moreover, in North Dakota, her Republican challenger is the current representative for the state. That means the ND-At Large seat is open, and it’s a lot easier to win an open seat.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:32:32pm

LOL … the GOP Chairwoman getting the ratio at Twitter …

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:32:34pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:33:13pm

re: #157 Dave In Austin

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What a great concert that was for an uninformed 16 year old me.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:33:45pm

re: #192 Anymouse 🌹

LOL … the GOP Chairwoman getting the ratio at Twitter …

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I’ll take Comey over the man who insisted he saw American Muslims celebrating 9/11.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:37:20pm

Yesterday’s statehouses gun rally turned out to be a giant flop:

thedailybeast.com

Measly Crowds Rally for Gun Rights Across America in Response to March for Our Lives
Hundreds gathered at the statehouses, annoyed by the ability of the Parkland students to draw bigger crowds and worried that the momentum is on the other side.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:38:00pm

Awful day at the old bonehouse. I work in a small long term acute care hospital, and everybody is sicker than hell and they’re all there for weeks on end before we get them transferred to a lower level of care. So today one of our patients codes in the CT scanner in our basement. We go running downstairs (ok hobbling and lurching) and leave a skeleton crew to maintain the floor. Early on we’re optimistic because the guy moved his arms and breathed spontaneously while I was doing compressions. (the first couple times he did it we stopped for a pulse check but there was none. After about 15 minutes we got a spontaneous pulse and we all had a cheer, but it only lasted about 15 seconds, and we all kind of knew where this was going. We wanted to keep him going until the family arrived, but after about 35 minutes the doc told us it was time to stop (the pupils had blown). Very disheartening. These people are really sick but we are very optimistic because we generally get them off of their vents, close their wounds, and back to eating or at least ready to go to a rehab or skilled nursing facility, and it is a shock to lose somebody. But it got worse. When we got up the skeleton crew was wrestling with a patient who had dislodged his airway, de-satted (lost much of the oxygen content in his blood, and was hypoxic. His BP was only 42. He was a DNR/DNI, and we called his family to come in. We were ready to give him morphine and remove the airway and keep the morphine going, but he was gone in seconds. It’s inspiring to see how resilient and loving the people I work with are. We still had 28 sick people to take care of.

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:39:26pm

re: #196 Anymouse 🌹

Yesterday’s statehouses gun rally turned out to be a giant flop:

thedailybeast.com

Measly Crowds Rally for Gun Rights Across America in Response to March for Our Lives
Hundreds gathered at the statehouses, annoyed by the ability of the Parkland students to draw bigger crowds and worried that the momentum is on the other side.

And if Dick’s is physically destroying the guns they have rather than selling them back to the company they came from, then yes, the momentum is on the other side.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:39:36pm
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Renaissance_Man  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:41:53pm

re: #197 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

Been there. Respect.

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:41:55pm

re: #199 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I wonder if they have someone who can staff the managing editor position for the NYT. It’s missing a useful one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:42:12pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:44:24pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:44:28pm

re: #198 Belafon

And if Dick’s is physically destroying the guns they have rather than selling them back to the company they came from, then yes, the momentum is on the other side.

Dick’s will still get something out of the guns by recycling them, though not as much as if they continued to sell them as guns.

When the Yugoslav Civil War was over, Serbia collected weapons ranging from pistols to artillery, and melted down and sold the metal … gun steel is very high quality and that is quite a money maker for them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:47:01pm

TWD right now…

oh my…

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:48:13pm

As a reminder, the Earth will be destroyed on April 23.

morningticker.com

Nibiru: That trick never works.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:52:07pm

We all cope in different ways, but I think many of us take it personally when we lose somebody. We all know everybody, because even if they’re not on our assignment we’ve helped out in their rooms all the time. I mean, we were making this guy better, God, get out of the way. This man’s nurse was taking it hard, but I don’t know how to process this: with tears in her eyes, she eyed up the comfort tray we put outside his room (coffee pot, water, a few beverages and snacks that are rarely touched but we do it anyway as some sort of helplessly futile gesture), snuck up to it and snatched a banana.

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Belafon  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:53:05pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:53:56pm

LOL

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:54:19pm
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calochortus  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:56:31pm

re: #207 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

{{{{SteveMcG}}}} It must be really hard on all of you. Kudos on your ability to do a tough but necessary job.

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Targetpractice  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:57:38pm

I look upthread and see Tom Nichols was responding in the usual fashion that “NeverTrumpers” do when confronted with the reality that they created the very fertile ground in which that turd-shaped pumpkin took root: “I’M NOT GONNA ANSWER FOR ANY BAD THINGS DONE! IF YOU WANT MY HELP, YOU GOTTA LET ME SLIDE!”

Or what, Tom? You’re gonna vote for Trump again in 2020? You and others like you will stay home? Do you realize just how empty that threat sounds?

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:58:06pm

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

thread

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Trump’s lawyers seem to be arguing in incredibly bad faith, pretending that the material wasn’t seized via a legal search warrant. Their argument about no precedent looks like it’s based on material ordered surrendered via a subpoena duces tecum instead, which isn’t the case here. Basically a higher bar has already been cleared by the FBI, because the seizure and taint team review procedure is a much harder route to get a judge to approve in the first place.

They’re also ignoring the fact that the taint team doesn’t have final say on what is privileged, they simply flag potentially non-privileged material. The defense can object and the Court has final say before the prosecution sees it.

The absolute best outcome they’re going to get is that the Court will appoint a neutral special master to review the material, which will likely dramatically slow down production.

Trump brought this all on himself when he denied all knowledge of the payment.

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ObserverArt  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:58:27pm

James Comey is The Witch Hunting Deep State Never Trumper Fake News Supported Clinton Excuser.

It’s clear to see.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:58:38pm
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Belafon  Apr 15, 2018 • 6:59:38pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:01:00pm

re: #210 The Vicious Babushka

Wow, if there wasn’t thirty years of messages like that from Trump himself the fascist-curious Times could have reported on, instead of

But Her E-mails! Expect Delays
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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:02:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:02:33pm

re: #212 Targetpractice

I look upthread and see Tom Nichols was responding in the usual fashion that “NeverTrumpers” do when confronted with the reality that they created the very fertile ground in which that turd-shaped pumpkin took root: “I’M NOT GONNA ANSWER FOR ANY BAD THINGS DONE! IF YOU WANT MY HELP, YOU GOTTA LET ME SLIDE!”

Or what, Tom? You’re gonna vote for Trump again in 2020? You and others like you will stay home? Do you realize just how empty that threat sounds?

Nichols and alot of the Never Trumpers refuse to see how directly or indirectly they’re responsible for why someone like Trump was palatable to GOP voters. And yes that includes Reagan, WFB, both Bushes, Karl Rove, and many more.

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MsJ  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:03:29pm

re: #206 Anymouse 🌹

As a reminder, the Earth will be destroyed on April 23.

morningticker.com

Nibiru: That trick never works.

I guess I won’t have to meet the surgeon on the 26th now. Shame I won’t be able to walk well at the end. 🙄

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:03:42pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:04:44pm

Thread (eight tweets) … why is it that the media doesn’t seem to get “when a person tells you who they are, believe them the first time?”

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The Major  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:05:12pm

The real picture inside The Situation Room….

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:06:21pm

re: #219 HappyWarrior

Nichols and alot of the Never Trumpers refuse to see how directly or indirectly they’re responsible for why someone like Trump was palatable to GOP voters. And yes that includes Reagan, WFB, both Bushes, Karl Rove, and many more.

It’s a variant I’ve heard all my life on the statement “the party left me, I didn’t leave the party.”

Not taking responsibility for your actions is a tenet of conservatism.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:08:39pm

re: #224 Anymouse 🌹

It’s a variant I’ve heard all my life on the statement “the party left me, I didn’t leave the party.”

Not taking responsibility for your actions is a tenet of conservatism.

Not taking responsibility while lecturing others about it yep.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:08:53pm
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MsJ  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:10:01pm

Comey: “I didn’t need to go into the business about people peeing on each other.” when he went to meet with trump for the first time.

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The Major  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:11:18pm

re: #226 The Vicious Babushka

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meteor  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:11:47pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:12:58pm

re: #226 The Vicious Babushka

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I find myself wondering if she’s that clueless or she’s in someone else’s employ. Nina and her revolution are a big part of the problem. They also prove that the circular specturm exists.

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:14:04pm

Oh brother.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:14:11pm

re: #229 meteor

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He won’t because he’s clueless. He really thinks having a pro-choice record is that all that matters and it doesn’t matter if he just dismisses the right to choose as a distraction. Easy for him to fucking say.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:16:14pm

re: #231 teleskiguy

Oh brother.

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Well because it’s true about Reagan. It’s true that Reagan racebaited like Trump. It’s true that Reagan was often just as uninformed as Trump. And yeah it’s also true that Reagan used his celebrity to get into politics. Sorry Tom and GOP NeverTrumpers, you need to acknowledge that your “Great Communicator” is part of why someone like Trump is so acceptable to Republicans. Reagan may not be a direct parallel of Trump but he has more in common with Trump than he doesn’t IMO.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:16:44pm

Comey is functionally identical to a billion other dudes who thought they could have a consequence free recreational fling with a crazy person.

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:17:02pm

re: #231 teleskiguy

My response:

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:17:57pm

You want another hard truth that people like Nichols can’t handle? William F. Buckley was a raging, racist asshole who only is acceptable because white conservatives have decided he was. Viewed through any other lens, W.F. Buckley is rightfully seen as the bigot that defended Apartheid well into the 80’s, made his bones defending McCarthy, and sounded more like George Wallace than he didn’t on Civil Rights. Why? Because Buckley was a bigoted, classist jerk.

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BeachDem  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:24:43pm

I have mixed feelings about Comey, but I have to say, the man really has a high opinion of himself. I believe he thinks he’s not only the smartest person in the room he’s in, but in any room anywhere.

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dangerman  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:26:25pm

I don’t care anything about Comey anymore

I only want to know what he knows and can substantiate

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:57:02pm

re: #154 JordanRules

Mmmhmm…

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Agreed. He’s not the hero he thinks he is. He revealed the investigation into Secretary Clinton right before the election while not revealing the investigation into Trump’s campaign.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:58:32pm

re: #226 The Vicious Babushka

Wow. She’s getting worse.

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VaughnIAM  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:33:47pm

re: #184 freetoken

When Bill was elected Governor in 1979 over 85% of Arkansas was white. There have been 46 Governors since 1836 and 35 of them have been Democrats.
There were a lot of petty assholes in this state that hated Hillary because she didn’t conform to their view of what a Governor’s wife should be.
She was a lawyer and she wasn’t about to sit at home and do nothing and on top of that she had the nerve to use her maiden name which sent a lot of the women into a frenzy.

Didn’t help her a bit that the assholes knew she was a whole hell of a lot smarter than they were.


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