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1
goddamnedfrank  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:22:55pm

Whoever said Comey thought he could “get a little bit pregnant” with Trump had it spot on.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:25:06pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:26:47pm
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jaunte  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:28:50pm

re: #3 Anymouse 🌹

“…while the worst are full of passionate intensity”

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:29:36pm

Just in case you might start to think that Comey isn’t really that much of an asshole:

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:31:50pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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Agreed.

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dangerman  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:32:33pm

Like I said below.
We are where we are

I don’t care about him.

Only what he knows and can substantiate

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jaunte  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:35:42pm

Carlos Lozada:

“…For all his contempt for Trump — he decries “the forest fire that is the Trump presidency” — Comey concludes that the president’s behavior, while disturbing and dangerous, “may fall short of being illegal.” But he’s not here as a lawyer or investigator, this is Comey the philosopher. He laments Trump’s lack of self-reflection or self-awareness. “Listening to others who disagree with me and are willing to criticize me is essential to piercing the seduction of certainty,” Comey writes. “Doubt, I’ve learned, is wisdom… . Those leaders who never think they are wrong, who never question their judgments or perspectives, are a danger to the organizations and people they lead.”

Trump is the most severe example of that tendency in this book. But he is not the only one.”
washingtonpost.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:36:13pm

ABC now has their transcript up of the Comey interview for those of us without television service.
abcnews.go.com

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Stanley Sea  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:36:58pm

re: #9 Anymouse 🌹

Dude.

Did you read the title of the thread?

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:39:02pm

re: #5 The Vicious Babushka

Just in case you might start to think that Comey isn’t really that much of an asshole:

(while not noting at the time there was already an investigation into Donald Trump’s campaign)

Mr. Comey complaining he felt alone and mistreated because he put his thumb on the political scale? Cry me a river.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:40:06pm

re: #10 Stanley Sea

Dude.

Did you read the title of the thread?

Apparently not.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:43:29pm

In the category of “there’s a tweet for everything,” they aren’t always from Donald Trump.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:45:40pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:49:04pm

Conservatives still don’t get the difference (or simply lie about the difference) between “government controlling speech” and “fact checking”

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:49:27pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:50:21pm
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Belafon  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:53:53pm

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹

Conservatives still don’t get the difference (or simply lie about the difference) between “government controlling speech” and “fact checking”

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Just looked through there. She doesn’t believe that Sinclair forced anchors to read the statement about “fake news.”

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BeachDem  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:55:38pm

re: #18 Belafon

Just looked through there. She doesn’t believe that Sinclair forced anchors to read the statement about “fake news.”

Also, she’s a complete whackjob, so there’s that…

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:57:29pm

re: #19 BeachDem

Also, she’s a complete whackjob, so there’s that…

And so are a large portion of the people commenting on that tweet.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:58:02pm

Charles, any way to stop that clip of Comey from auto-playing on an endless loop?

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Kragar  Apr 15, 2018 • 7:59:34pm
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BeachDem  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:00:49pm

Guess Nikki will have to find another way to ingratiate herself to “future president Pence.”

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:02:20pm

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹

So a bunch of newscasters saying the exact same thing about “fake news” isn’t odd to her? She’s okay with that? Are there any serious Conservatives left?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:02:57pm

re: #22 Kragar

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RIP. He made Full Metal Jacket imo.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:06:00pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:06:48pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

RIP. He made Full Metal Jacket imo.

Also Sgt. Hobo 678…

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Stanley Sea  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:07:10pm

re: #24 Patricia Kayden

So a bunch of newscasters saying the exact same thing about “fake news” isn’t odd to her? She’s okay with that? Are there any serious Conservatives left?

She’s the one who said the government was in control of her computer. Deleting things.

She did a video.

Her backspace key was jammed with cracker crumbs or something.

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:11:10pm

re: #28 Stanley Sea

#DeepState

There’s a whole lot of derp goin’ on in that there hashtag.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:11:46pm

re: #28 Stanley Sea

CRACKER CRUMBS CAN’T MELT STEEL BEAMS!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:12:14pm

re: #28 Stanley Sea

She’s the one who said the government was in control of her computer. Deleting things.

She did a video.

Her backspace key was jammed with cracker crumbs or something.

“The government spilled Coke on my keyboard!”

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:14:26pm

Born on this date in 1933: Elizabeth Montgomery.

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Kragar  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:15:12pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:15:48pm

Sigh. I have spastic colon sunday

Again. I deeply regret I have to work a job.

Spastic colon sunday

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:18:08pm

re: #33 Kragar

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freetoken  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:18:50pm

The American Physical Society is having their annual meeting in Columbus this weekend, and for some reason I have the business meeting video playing in the background.

Anyway, the DC Affairs guy (i.e., their lobbying arm) comes up and gives some stats, and presents this slide on graduate applications to physics programs in the US, from foreign applications:

He claims he’s spoken with his colleagues in other science professional societies and they are noticing the same thing.

The speaker doesn’t say so, but the implication is clear, given he brought up that these declines are not just showing declines from traditional Muslim countries - that Trump’s xenophobia is driving away graduate students from other countries.

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MsJ  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:20:07pm

re: #18 Belafon

Just looked through there. She doesn’t believe that Sinclair forced anchors to read the statement about “fake news.”

Whip? Keyboard girl?

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allegro  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:20:57pm

Well that was an interesting hour. George S did a good job with the interview, I think. He didn’t softball. I found Comey’s reasoning WRT the fateful Hillary letter so much bullshit but he seemed sincere in his belief that he did the right thing, doubling down that he would do it again even knowing the outcome. I also saw a man who is always right - if you don’t believe it just ask him. The only times he agreed to question anything he said or did was when GS asked his if his answers to Trump’s loyalty and Flynn things were appropriate and Comey gave a shrugging eh, maybe coulda done better.

Ultimately, Comey came off looking real good and Trump real bad. Comey came off as professional, forthcoming, and trust-worthy IMO.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:20:58pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:24:12pm

re: #32 Anymouse 🌹

Born on this date in 1933: Elizabeth Montgomery.

I was 12, I think, when Bewitched premiered. She was my first big show business crush….

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freetoken  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:25:22pm

Corrected the image in that post.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:28:47pm

re: #41 freetoken

Corrected the image in that post.

I just noticed UCSD.

Has to be bad not to accept a ride there.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:29:03pm

re: #30 goddamnedfrank

CRACKER CRUMBS CAN’T MELT STEEL BEAMS!

Aintcha heard? Planes couldn’t have brought down the WTC, because jets don’t carry liquid fuel—they run on compressed air. “Enslaved by no Media” and “JoneS SenoJ” on YuteOob will tell you all about it….

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freetoken  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:30:31pm

re: #42 Stanley Sea

Remember, these are applications.

It’s too early to assess the impact on the actual admissions.

However, I think it is inevitable that either the number of foreign students will go down, or, if there are quotas to keep up the fraction of foreign students then the possibility that the quality of the students will decrease.

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allegro  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:31:21pm

Oh for those who read my earlier account of LMAO at the Whataburger kid chasing my wind-blowing $10 bill… I got my comeuppance. I tripped over the edge of my patio rug that had blown and flipped over. Crashed hard. Knee is still throbbing. My first thought, after the pain induced expletive was “karma will out. I deserved that.”

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freetoken  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:32:03pm

This is important: US universities have often attracted the best and brightest students in the world.

With Trump’s xenophobia being now US policy, some of those students will decide to not come here.

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allegro  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:34:37pm

re: #46 freetoken

This is important: US universities have often attracted the best and brightest students in the world.

With Trump’s xenophobia being now US policy, some of those students will decide to not come here.

As painful as it is to say, I think they will be better off for staying away.

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VegasGolfer  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:35:02pm

Whats the time period to wait after the death of R Lee Emery to start pointing out that that toward the end he turened into your typical crazy old person with the crazy beliefs about “liberal hollywood” vast left wing conspiracy to blackball him?

foxnews.com

“I’ve had a very fruitful career. I’ve done over 70 feature films,” Gunny told FOX411. “I’ve done over 200 episodes of [‘GunnyTime’]… and then [Hollywood] found out that I’m a Conservative.”

Actually, he corrected, “I’m an Independent, but I said something bad about the president. I had something unsavory to say about the president’s administration, and even though I did vote for him the first time around, I was blackballed.”

Gunny, who is an NRA board member, explained that his association with the organization and his disapproval of President Obama cost him acting jobs.

“Do you realize I have not done a movie in five to six years? Why? Because I was totally blackballed by the… liberals in Hollywood,” he alleged. “They can destroy you. They’re hateful people [who] don’t just not like you, they want to take away your livelihood… that’s why I live up in the desert on a dirt road… I don’t have to put up with their crap.”

He was in some good movies, but I have no use for him in the real world for him and his typical rwnj views.

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:37:57pm

re: #45 allegro

Oh for those who read my earlier account of LMAO at the Whataburger kid chasing my wind-blowing $10 bill… I got my comeuppance. I tripped over the edge of my patio rug that had blown and flipped over. Crashed hard. Knee is still throbbing. My first thought, after the pain induced expletive was “karma will out. I deserved that.”

Last Sunday whilst skiing at Snowmass I faceplanted in super-wet snow pretty hard, I’m glad I was able to ski away uninjured, though I definitely tweaked my right shoulder and arm. We’re talkin’ 30+ m.p.h. to zero in about ten feet. I hit a bad patch of slush and down I went face first like a sack of potatoes. My thinking at the time was “you haven’t crashed spectacularly (years, maybe?) in quite sometime, this had to happen. It’s karma.” It was witnessed by a man and his child who were about 25 feet away. I got up and said “I’m okay” after doing the limb check and dad says “That was gnarly, dude!”

True story.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:38:05pm

I’m going to retire my spastic colon Sunday.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:38:33pm

re: #30 goddamnedfrank

CRACKER CRUMBS CAN’T MELT STEEL BEAMS!

It was a government conspiracy to sneak cracker crumbs into her keyboard.

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MsJ  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:39:22pm

re: #48 VegasGolfer

I always hate finding our someone whose movies or TV shows I like is a nut. I loved Art on Justified, but couldn’t enjoy him after reading what a lunatic he is. I didn’t enjoy his character after that. I couldn’t separate the character (good) from his actual character (severely lacking).

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:41:11pm

re: #40 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I was 12, I think, when Bewitched premiered. She was my first big show business crush….

I was four. That said, Bewitched at the time was one of both my mother’s and grandmother’s favourite shows, so I grew up with it.

It’s still quite funny today to me.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:41:29pm

re: #46 freetoken

This is important: US universities have often attracted the best and brightest students in the world.

With Trump’s xenophobia being now US policy, some of those students will decide to not come here.

I remember people took note of this anecdotally almost right after the election. Then the travel ban and things just got worse.

“Drop in foreign applicants worries U.S. engineering schools”
January 2017
sciencemag.org

“As Flow of International Students Wane, U.S. Universities Feel the Sting”
January 2018
nytimes.com

“Report finds fewer new international students on U.S. college campuses”
November 2017

washingtonpost.com

“Why students are choosing to go to college in Canada instead of the United States”
August 2017
cnbc.com

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:43:50pm

re: #46 freetoken

This is important: US universities have often attracted the best and brightest students in the world.

With Trump’s xenophobia being now US policy, some of those students will decide to not come here.

Yep.

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Interesting Times  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:43:57pm

THIS THIS THIS:

Everything I’ve been trying to say re Democratic messaging, though this article explains it better than I ever could:

Each respondent was shown two flyers. The first used classic dog whistling, taken from a real Republican mailer now circulating in Minnesota. Arguing for more tax cuts, an unnamed candidate describes his opponents as “demanding more sanctuary cities for criminal and illegal aliens.”

From there, half the respondents were shown a flyer detailing a progressive populist agenda silent on race - the settled wisdom of the class-left. The other half were shown a race-class narrative that describes how certain politicians use racial division to cleave us from each other in order to gain and hold economic power.

The test was over which narrative - the one that avoids race or the one that uses race to explain the origins of economic inequality - could more effectively beat real Republican messaging. Among white respondents, a majority agreed with the initial dog whistle script. When these respondents were shown the class-only progressive flyer…55% stuck with the racially divisive politician, and 44% shifted to the progressive candidate.

But for those shown the race-class message the numbers flipped. Only 43% stayed with the conservative candidate while 57% switched to the progressive who addressed race and class together. Put bluntly, the race-class message was significantly more effective at generating progressive votes than the class-only script. And this was among white voters initially keen on the divisive message.

And what, might you ask, was the race-class message they used in the experimental flyers?

The race-class flyer says “Whether white, black, or brown, 5th generation or newcomer, we all want to build a better future for our children. My opponent says some families have value, while others don’t count. He wants to pit us against each other in order to gain power for himself and kickbacks for his donors.”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:45:44pm

re: #48 VegasGolfer

Whats the time period to wait after the death of R Lee Emery to start pointing out that that toward the end he turened into your typical crazy old person with the crazy beliefs about “liberal hollywood” vast left wing conspiracy to blackball him?

foxnews.com

“I’ve had a very fruitful career. I’ve done over 70 feature films,” Gunny told FOX411. “I’ve done over 200 episodes of [‘GunnyTime’]… and then [Hollywood] found out that I’m a Conservative.”

Actually, he corrected, “I’m an Independent, but I said something bad about the president. I had something unsavory to say about the president’s administration, and even though I did vote for him the first time around, I was blackballed.”

Gunny, who is an NRA board member, explained that his association with the organization and his disapproval of President Obama cost him acting jobs.

“Do you realize I have not done a movie in five to six years? Why? Because I was totally blackballed by the… liberals in Hollywood,” he alleged. “They can destroy you. They’re hateful people [who] don’t just not like you, they want to take away your livelihood… that’s why I live up in the desert on a dirt road… I don’t have to put up with their crap.”

He was in some good movies, but I have no use for him in the real world for him and his typical rwnj views.

Yeah I remember that. Whining like that made me think less of him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:46:27pm

re: #54 JordanRules

I remember people took note of this anecdotally almost right after the election. Then the travel ban and things just got worse.

“Drop in foreign applicants worries U.S. engineering schools”
January 2017
sciencemag.org

“As Flow of International Students Wane, U.S. Universities Feel the Sting”
January 2018
nytimes.com

“Report finds fewer new international students on U.S. college campuses”
November 2017

washingtonpost.com

“Why students are choosing to go to college in Canada instead of the United States”
August 2017
cnbc.com

Well, you know Trump is ‘Zero Sum’ kinda guy. He probably figures that if you let foreign students into our universities, they’ll absorb some of the knowledge that would otherwise go to American students.

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fern01  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:47:53pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

And Comey thinks this is news? The only person who said otherwise was trump.

Comey lost the plot when he attacked Hillary Clinton. He bought the b.s. from the republicans in congress and decided he would change the path of history. He has to live with what he elected and no way can he EVER validate what he did.

That trump fired him for making sure Hillary was defeated is the weird part of this story.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:49:54pm

re: #52 MsJ

I always hate finding our someone whose movies or TV shows I like is a nut. I loved Art on Justified, but couldn’t enjoy him after reading what a lunatic he is. I didn’t enjoy his character after that. I couldn’t separate the character (good) from his actual character (severely lacking).

It’s hard for me too especially because so many conservative entertainers whine about it.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:51:26pm

re: #58 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, you know Trump is ‘Zero Sum’ kinda guy. He probably figures that if you let foreign students into our universities, they’ll absorb some of the knowledge that would ever go to American students.

He never considers two things) One that those students will contribute to the economy and two they’ll want to stay here likely. One of my good pals, his parents met as grad students here.

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VegasGolfer  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:52:00pm

re: #52 MsJ

I always hate finding our someone whose movies or TV shows I like is a nut. I loved Art on Justified, but couldn’t enjoy him after reading what a lunatic he is. I didn’t enjoy his character after that. I couldn’t separate the character (good) from his actual character (severely lacking).

And you know what else I hate is after the golf Masters last week, Patrick Reed who won, was revealed all the skeletons in his closet. Alcohol abuse in college, alleged cheating in college golf tournaments, and him disowning his family after he decided to marry an older controlling woman. People were upset because this became public after his success. The typical response was “ i dont care whats in his personal life, as long as i can watch him play great golf” Sound familiar? But that is the price of becoming famous in todays world. If you dont want your flaws to be subject to scrutiny and a subject to all kinds of journalism, nobody is forcing you into the public eye. You choose to be the best in your field, you get everything else that goes with it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:52:21pm

re: #46 freetoken

This is important: US universities have often attracted the best and brightest students in the world.

With Trump’s xenophobia being now US policy, some of those students will decide to not come here.

Bad for the U.S. Good for Canada, Europe and Australia.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:53:38pm

re: #56 Interesting Times

Very interesting! Bookmarked to dig into more.

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freetoken  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:54:23pm

re: #63 Eclectic Cyborg

If it weren’t for the fears of the ruling elite in China, which makes them want to monitor and censor everything, China could replace the US in a decade as far as being the leader in research in the world, thus students would flock there.

But the Chinese leadership are not likely to care that much.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:54:47pm

dailymotion.com

(The Flintstones, Season 6 Episode 6, “Samantha”)

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ckkatz  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:55:51pm

re: #59 fern01

That trump fired him for making sure Hillary was defeated is the weird part of this story.

Like you, I have little sympathy for Comey. He broke with the discipline and professionalism of the FBI and dragged that organization further into politics.

But I always just assumed that Trump saw what Comey did to Clinton. And on seeing that decided to do Comey in before Comey could do unto Trump.

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MsJ  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:56:29pm

re: #58 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, you know Trump is ‘Zero Sum’ kinda guy. He probably figures that if you let foreign students into our universities, they’ll absorb some of the knowledge that would otherwise go to American students.

(Kissing fingers, chef style)

Perfect.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:56:31pm

re: #40 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I was 12, I think, when Bewitched premiered. She was my first big show business crush….

Still remember the first time I saw her on TV—this episode of Boris Karloff’s Thriller where she co-starred with Tom Poston!

And YES that IS the Psycho House!

Thriller S2 Ep6 Masquerade (1961)

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:56:50pm

re: #62 VegasGolfer

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:57:05pm

re: #63 Eclectic Cyborg

Bad for the U.S. Good for Canada, Europe and Australia.

Yep. Nativism hurts us not just culturally but economically. I don’t blame any foreign student especially one of color who is reluctant to study here because of Trump and the alt right assholes.

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MsJ  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:57:57pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

It’s hard for me too especially because so many conservative entertainers whine about it.

Not just whine but are nasty. Whining makes me give them an eye roll. Nasty pisses me off.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:58:22pm

re: #72 MsJ

Not just whine but are nasty. Whining makes me give them an eye roll. Nasty pisses me off.

Oh yeah for sure.

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Kragar  Apr 15, 2018 • 8:58:30pm
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MsJ  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:00:42pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

He never considers two things) One that those students will contribute to the economy and two they’ll want to stay here likely. One of my good pals, his parents met as grad students here.

You only contribute to society, in Trump’s eyes, of your daddy have you lots of cash, you know, like Romney’s roughing it in college, living off of his daddy’s stock options.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:01:35pm

re: #75 MsJ

You only contribute to society, in Trump’s eyes, of your daddy have you lots of cash, you know, like Romney’s roughing it in college, living off of his daddy’s stock options.

I wish more people would call Trump out as the elitist he is.

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:02:40pm

re: #70 Ace Rothstein

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fern01  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:03:07pm

re: #67 ckkatz

Like you, I have little sympathy for Comey. He broke with the discipline and professionalism of the FBI and dragged that organization further into politics.

But I always just assumed that Trump saw what Comey did to Clinton. And on seeing that decided to do Comey in before Comey could do unto Trump.

I hadn’t thought of that - could well be the reason. Why would Comey stop at ruining a presidential candidate when he could then take down a President.

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:04:52pm

This is very interesting.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:06:39pm

re: #69 Joe Bacon 🌹

Still remember the first time I saw her on TV—this episode of Boris Karloff’s Thriller where she co-starred with Tom Poston!

And YES that IS the Psycho House!

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Oh! Thanks a lot! I’d been thinking that was The Twilight Zone and could never find it. Imma be in my bunk….

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Dave In Austin  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:10:21pm
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MsJ  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:12:12pm

re: #77 teleskiguy

I did not know that.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:12:28pm

re: #74 Kragar

This message brought to you by the Sinclair Broadcast Group.

Not joking here, the writer is a paid Sinclair employee.

Does Earl know what his employees are up to?

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:15:13pm

re: #62 VegasGolfer

And you know what else I hate is after the golf Masters last week, Patrick Reed who won, was revealed all the skeletons in his closet. Alcohol abuse in college, alleged cheating in college golf tournaments, and him disowning his family after he decided to marry an older controlling woman. People were upset because this became public after his success. The typical response was ” i dont care whats in his personal life, as long as i can watch him play great golf” Sound familiar? But that is the price of becoming famous in todays world. If you dont want your flaws to be subject to scrutiny and a subject to all kinds of journalism, nobody is forcing you into the public eye. You choose to be the best in your field, you get everything else that goes with it.

Interestingly enough, I worked in sports talk radio when Le Tigre fell and a lot of the response from golfers was the exact opposite. They were quite happy to see his personal foibles take him out.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:16:15pm

re: #84 JordanRules

Interestingly enough, I worked in sports talk radio when Le Tigre fell and a lot of the response from golfers was the exact opposite. They were quite happy to see his personal foibles take him out.

Gee…I wonder what the difference could be…. It’s a puzzlement, for sure.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:16:31pm

re: #85 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Gee…I wonder what the difference could be…. It’s a puzzlement, for sure.

Mmmhmmm

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fern01  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:17:55pm

re: #85 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Gee…I wonder what the difference could be…. It’s a puzzlement, for sure.

Everyone has the same query - I was about to ask that question.

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LadyBehir  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:19:10pm

Elizabeth Montgomery was in a Twilight Zone episode with Charles Bronson.

imdb.com

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ckkatz  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:19:58pm

re: #74 Kragar
A little off topic. The selection of the Trump picture is a hoot! (The yellow circle border of the flag behnd him makes him look like he has horns.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:20:00pm

So Mr. Comey thinks that Trump is morally unfit to be president, but doesn’t think impeachment is an appropriate route … the voters should just vote him out in 2020.

If he was just an incompetent boob but surrounded himself with expert advice, I might agree with that assessment.

You don’t wait for the next family caucus to wonder if an arsonist should be booted out of your home while burning it down, even if someone in the home originally invited him in.

While James Comey was a long-time FBI employee, he is first and foremost a conservative.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:21:57pm
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Kafitrar  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:22:00pm

re: #89 ckkatz

A little off topic. The selection of the Trump picture is a hoot! (The yellow circle border of the flag behnd him makes him look like he has horns.)

Damn it. I was just about to post that. *shakes fist*

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freetoken  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:24:40pm

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹

Comey reflects well the “Never Trump” folk who still fail to accept that Trump’s rise to power did not happen in a vacuum.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:25:18pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:25:18pm

Sure is a lot of chatter about loyalty from a lot of people that had no loyalty to the last president, or his election results (2!) or the voters that made that happen. But suddenly now all those things matter a great deal. LOL spit.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:26:18pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:29:58pm

re: #95 Unshaken Defiance

Sure is a lot of chatter about loyalty from a lot of people that had no loyalty to the last president, or his election results (2!) or the voters that made that happen. But suddenly now all those things matter a great deal. LOL spit.

Aside from being a Democrat, I wonder what the single most prominent feature is about President Obama that stands out for conservatives… .

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:31:23pm

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹

The tan suit.

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Jay C  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:31:45pm

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹

Aside from being a Democrat, I wonder what the single most prominent feature is about President Obama that stands out for conservatives… .

His ears, obviously….

//

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:32:56pm

re: #95 Unshaken Defiance

Sure is a lot of chatter about loyalty from a lot of people that had no loyalty to the last president, or his election results (2!) or the voters that made that happen. But suddenly now all those things matter a great deal. LOL spit.

Their revisionism pisses me off. They act like they accepted Obama. Such lies.

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allegro  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:33:45pm

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹

So Mr. Comey things that Trump is morally unfit to be president, but doesn’t think impeachment is an appropriate route … the voters should just vote him out in 2020.

Did you note why he thinks so? He said because we, i.e. the voters, needed to take responsibility for what we’ve done by electing him. Forgot that little tidbit that made me yell at the TV. Not ONE person played a bigger role in Trump’s election than he did but it’s us who need to take responsibility. But he says he’d do it again even knowing the result.

Grrr. Now I’m pissed again.

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Kragar  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:33:57pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:36:52pm

re: #101 allegro

Did you note why he thinks so? He said because we, i.e. the voters, needed to take responsibility for what we’ve done by electing him. Forgot that little tidbit that made me yell at the TV. Not ONE person played a bigger role in Trump’s election than he did but it’s us who need to take responsibility. But he says he’d do it again even knowing the result.

Grrr. Now I’m pissed again.

That and three million more voters voted for Mrs. Clinton. The tiny percentage of voters in three states that went with Stein was all it took.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:37:08pm

re: #101 allegro

Did you note why he thinks so? He said because we, i.e. the voters, needed to take responsibility for what we’ve done by electing him. Forgot that little tidbit that made me yell at the TV. Not ONE person played a bigger role in Trump’s election than he did but it’s us who need to take responsibility. But he says he’d do it again even knowing the result.

Grrr. Now I’m pissed again.

He plays coy but that ego looms large.
Uggh. Asshole.

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Targetpractice  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:38:51pm

re: #101 allegro

Did you note why he thinks so? He said because we, i.e. the voters, needed to take responsibility for what we’ve done by electing him. Forgot that little tidbit that made me yell at the TV. Not ONE person played a bigger role in Trump’s election than he did but it’s us who need to take responsibility. But he says he’d do it again even knowing the result.

Grrr. Now I’m pissed again.

Everybody’s the hero of their own story. James Comey will acknowledge that it was a mistake, he’ll say he made a bad bet, he’ll even acknowledge that Trump is a dumpster fire. BUT he will never say it was wrong to make that decision because it would mean taking some measure of responsibility for Trump’s win. So he’ll rationalize his decision, he’ll make excuses for why it was the right call, but he’ll never say “I was wrong for making that decision.”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:39:07pm

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹

That and three million more voters voted for Mrs. Clinton. The tiny percentage of voters in three states that went with Stein was all it took.

Just don’t remind me of the 2000 Nader vote in Florida—my blood pressure is high enough as it is.

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William Lewis  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:43:36pm

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹

That and three million more voters voted for Mrs. Clinton. The tiny percentage of voters in three states that went with Stein was all it took.

Comrade-President Putin understands American electoral dynamics quite well & uses his puppets (Sanders, Stein, Trump, etc) to get the result he desires.

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retired cynic  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:46:01pm

re: #107 William Lewis

Comrade-President Putin understands American electoral dynamics quite well & uses his puppets (Sanders, Stein, Trump, etc) to get the result he desires.

Yes, Chaos.

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William Lewis  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:47:20pm

re: #108 retired cynic

Yes, Chaos.

DING DING DING Winner winner chicken dinner!

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:49:17pm

Apparently, veterans who received bad batches of anthrax vaccine may apply for 100% VA disability compensation.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:50:49pm

re: #106 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Just don’t remind me of the 2000 Nader vote in Florida—my blood pressure is high enough as it is.

Remember the 2000 Ralph Nader vote in Florida? /s

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:54:10pm

re: #107 William Lewis

Comrade-President Putin understands American electoral dynamics quite well & uses his puppets (Sanders, Stein, Trump, etc) to get the result he desires.

The frustrating thing is that there’s part of the left that doesn’t see that or are willing tools I.e Turner or Kucinich who use Trump’s language.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:54:25pm

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹

Remember the 2000 Ralph Nader vote in Florida? /s

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 15, 2018 • 9:59:29pm

Finally. It arrived.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:06:45pm
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William Lewis  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:07:53pm

re: #112 HappyWarrior

The frustrating thing is that there’s part of the left that doesn’t see that or are willing tools I.e Turner or Kucinich who use Trump’s language.

I remain very much of the hard left & have been a Marxist since high school. But pragmatic steps, even baby steps, are what gets real progress and the idiots that can’t understand that reality drive me nuts. The ones that are flat out Trumpian racists but are hiding behind “Working Class Whites” are as utterly the enemy of the proletarian as are the fascists themselves… argh. I know I’m upset by them when I start slipping into dogmatic language.

There are times when I really wish Mike Harrington were still here to help herd the freaking cats that make up the left in America.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:19:11pm

re: #116 William Lewis

I remain very much of the hard left & have been a Marxist since high school. But pragmatic steps, even baby steps, are what gets real progress and the idiots that can’t understand that reality drive me nuts. The ones that are flat out Trumpian racists but are hiding behind “Working Class Whites” are as utterly the enemy of the proletarian as are the fascists themselves… argh. I know I’m upset by them when I start slipping into dogmatic language.

There are times when I really wish Mike Harrington were still here to help herd the freaking cats that make up the left in America.

Well, herding cats has been a feature of “the Left” as long as I’ve been alive.

I Don’t Belong To Any Organized Party: I’m A Democrat - Will Rogers

As far as a “dictatorship of the proletariat,” I am not a fan of any form of dictatorship, no matter how benevolent it presents itself to be.

I’m the Democratic Socialist on my village board, and I sure don’t want to dictate anything. (I do want the village government to maintain full control of things like our water system and library and such.)

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Kragar  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:19:24pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:20:44pm

re: #118 Kragar

Woman who dropped her middle name because it offended Trump questions integrity?

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fern01  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:24:39pm

re: #119 Anymouse 🌹

Woman who dropped her middle name because it offended Trump questions integrity?

It is more than her middle name - it is the name she was born with - the name of her father.

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Varek Raith  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:30:21pm

I do enjoy being woken up by a scary wind gust.
Sigh.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:31:59pm

re: #121 Varek Raith

I do enjoy being woken up by a scary wind gust.
Sigh.

Sorry bout that. We had those a couple days ago during the blizzard here. At least the roads are open now. (We got our streets open right away, but we couldn’t leave town.)

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:36:39pm

Denial. Not just a river in Africa.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:42:04pm

re: #123 teleskiguy

Denial. Not just a river in Africa.

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He could you know answer your question. It’s a legitimate question. Reagan’s record in regards to African Americans really isn’t that different from Trump with Hispanic Americans.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:45:00pm

Sure, Jan.

How about both jackass?? This blind spot makes you look unfit to me Jim!
This is SUCH a Republican answer.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:45:25pm

re: #123 teleskiguy

Denial. Not just a river in Africa.

I’ve considered the U.S. a failed state since Reagan was elected. I’ve had brief two-year gleams of hope after the ‘92 and ‘08 elections, but I’ve totally given up on it now. Not that I won’t continue to vote against the bastards, but I don’t fool myself that there’s any point to it.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:47:51pm

Reagan pushed us over the cliff and Trump is what we found at the bottom.

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Single-handed sailor  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:48:04pm

re: #126 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve considered the U.S. a failed state since Reagan was elected. I’ve had brief two-year gleams of hope after the ‘92 and ‘08 elections, but I’ve totally given up on it now. Not that I won’t continue to vote against the bastards, but I don’t fool myself that there’s any point to it.

I didn’t have much hope after Reagan became Governor, and Nixon became President.

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Varek Raith  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:48:33pm

re: #127 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Reagan pushed us over the cliff and Trump is what we found at the bottom.

Along with moose and squirrel!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:49:34pm

re: #126 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve considered the U.S. a failed state since Reagan was elected. I’ve had brief two-year gleams of hope after the ‘92 and ‘08 elections, but I’ve totally given up on it now. Not that I won’t continue to vote against the bastards, but I don’t fool myself that there’s any point to it.

I don’t go that far but I think Reagan needs to be critically viewed and conservatives failing to do that are why even never Trump conservatives are part of the problem.

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Varek Raith  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:50:03pm

Man, I thought I couldn’t like Comey any less.
Fuck that guy.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:51:27pm

re: #125 JordanRules

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Sure, Jan.

How about both jackass?? This blind spot makes you look unfit to me Jim!
This is SUCH a Republican answer.

Maybe I’m being unfair and reaching, but when it comes to GOPers who want to go the strictly moral route, I get concerned. He’s not mentally fit either. You don’t have to get technically medical to affirm that. And you should affirm that. These are people that seem keen on eroding the separation of church and state. That’s why it worries me.

I’ve heard some ugly moral arguments from these folks. It underpinned so much oppression.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:51:29pm

Pat Buchanan honestly was Stephen Miller before Miller.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:54:01pm
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Varek Raith  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:54:11pm

re: #133 HappyWarrior

Pat Buchanan honestly was Stephen Miller before Miller.

There’s a name I hadn’t heard in a while.
What’s old Pat up to these days?
/

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HappyWarrior  Apr 15, 2018 • 10:56:24pm

re: #135 Varek Raith

There’s a name I hadn’t heard in a while.
What’s old Pat up to these days?
/

Big Trump apologist IIRC. He’s also a prototype Trump too.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:13:57pm

re: #128 Single-handed sailor

I didn’t have much hope after Reagan became Governor, and Nixon became President.

Yeah, I was mad enough to spit nails when Nixon was elected, but I was only 16, so I hadn’t had hope beaten out of me yet.

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:16:23pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:20:06pm

Pure speculation: Is it possible that Comey did not want to disparage the NY FBI office and so pretended that the decision to issue the Hillary letter was his alone? Giuliani was certainly hinting at something before the letter was released and I wouldn’t be surprised that, if Comey hadn’t released his letter, the NY office would have would have claimed there was a coverup. The press would have jumped on those allegations and made them the main story for the few days remaining in the campaign.

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:22:39pm

re: #123 teleskiguy

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:25:00pm
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Single-handed sailor  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:26:30pm

Last.Week.Tonight.With.John.Oliver.S05E08

OMG, this is good.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:27:37pm

re: #141 Scottish Dragon

will
@fuckwillie
18h
Replying to @fuckwillie
If it doesn’t make sense, don’t do it.

- Men.

??? Then how explain the fact that a large majority of white men voted for Trump???

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:30:52pm

re: #141 Scottish Dragon

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Please note that I am mocking this guy, and that I certainly do NOT think most men beat their wives and girlfriends, lol.

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VegasGolfer  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:32:51pm

cbsnews.com

I dont know how many of you watched this on 60 Minutes, but I’ve warned all my friends and family, and I consider this a friendly place, not to fly Allegiant Airlines under any circumstance. I can say this after 26 years of working for the FAA, that what this story tells stinks all the way to the top. The CEO of Allegiant was the CEO of Valujet, remember them? I know that at my level the FAA can seem incompetent, but when it came to public saftey they were excellent. But how they are brushing the problems with Allegiant under the rug is disturbing. And I have the stong suspicion that there are ties to the head of fliht standards who is in charge now, the CEO Maruice J. Gallagher and the current president definitely exist.

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freetoken  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:35:24pm

re: #126 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve considered the U.S. a failed state since Reagan was elected. I’ve had brief two-year gleams of hope after the ‘92 and ‘08 elections, but I’ve totally given up on it now. Not that I won’t continue to vote against the bastards, but I don’t fool myself that there’s any point to it.

Large societies don’t change quickly.

Even when new toys (engineering marvels) enter the picture, societies have shown a tendency to not want to change.

In physics we’d call that “stiffness”, as in material science.

The idea of “elasticity” in economics is not really the same thing, but can also be used as an analogy to what I am addressing.

As we grow older it is very hard to change our habits.

And we are a society with lots of old people.

During my lifetime we have seen change. The Civil Rights movement did indeed bring about change. The “sexual revolution” has indeed brought about change.

However, these changes are into a matrix of a society born out of a very rigid patriarchy, and the changes are incremental.

When my grandfather came to this country, roughly a quarter to a third of the African Americans living at that time had been born into slavery.

Something to think about.

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fern01  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:35:29pm

CNN money with a little homily on what might impact the markets this week

1. Maxing out the credit card: House Speaker Paul Ryan, who built his career on the promise of fiscal responsibility, is leaving behind a looming $1 trillion budget deficit.

The rest of it mainly relates to earnings season. Sadly they don’t mention trump tweets which have more impact on the markets at the minute than anything else that may happen.

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JordanRules  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:35:32pm

re: #139 Hecuba’s daughter

Pure speculation: Is it possible that Comey did not want to disparage the NY FBI office and so pretended that the decision to issue the Hillary letter was his alone? Giuliani was certainly hinting at something before the letter was released and I wouldn’t be surprised that, if Comey hadn’t released his letter, the NY office would have would have claimed there was a coverup. The press would have jumped on those allegations and made them the main story for the few days remaining in the campaign.

I honestly thought this was already accepted (in Democratic circles) as one of the factors/threats he used for his calculation. And yet it still was his decision and he made a bad one.
And no, I don’t expect him to admit it. He’s a Republican FBI company man thru and thru.

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William Lewis  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:41:36pm

re: #140 Scottish Dragon

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And he only used that phrase on his “nice” days. He was even worse other times. < spit >

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teleskiguy  Apr 15, 2018 • 11:45:26pm

Some music.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:03:21am

re: #24 Patricia Kayden

So a bunch of newscasters saying the exact same thing about “fake news” isn’t odd to her? She’s okay with that? Are there any serious Conservatives left?

It was a spontaneous expression of the People’s Will, the fact that the wording was identical just underlined its inherent Truth.

/

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:05:15am

re: #151 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It was a spontaneous expression of the People’s Will, the fact that the wording was identical just underlined its inherent Truth.

/

Isn’t that how we got the Septuagint?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:08:31am

re: #46 freetoken

This is important: US universities have often attracted the best and brightest students in the world.

With Trump’s xenophobia being now US policy, some of those students will decide to not come here.

The counter-argument is that these students were taking places away from deserving, hard-working Americans.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:12:58am

re: #69 Joe Bacon 🌹

Still remember the first time I saw her on TV—this episode of Boris Karloff’s Thriller where she co-starred with Tom Poston!

And YES that IS the Psycho House!

I recall her playing in The Legend of Lizzie Borden in 1975…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:19:06am

re: #126 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve considered the U.S. a failed state since Reagan was elected. I’ve had brief two-year gleams of hope after the ‘92 and ‘08 elections, but I’ve totally given up on it now. Not that I won’t continue to vote against the bastards, but I don’t fool myself that there’s any point to it.

I am still registered in Arizona, which makes any Presidential vote against a Republican a moot point.

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:20:17am

LOL

Oh you’re so coy James. *rolls eyes*

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freetoken  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:21:28am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The counter-argument is that these students were taking places away from deserving, hard-working Americans.

Well yes, that’s what a xenophobe would say.

But that is not how graduate studies work.

Graduate students are low-paid trainees, who exchange their work (teaching assistant, research assistant, or admin assistant) for being trained in their specialty.

A graduate program has a budget but it doesn’t really cost more to teach a grad class of 8 students compared to 7 students. So admission limits are really down to how the university wants to charge for graduate tuition. For many programs in technical fields, a student working for her department will often get that tuition covered by their department.

The big question is always the quality of the student. Many people get B.S./B.A. degrees - it’s not that difficult today, other than cost - but not everyone is interested in doing what it takes to get a Doctorate (or whatever the final degree is in the profession.)

Back (long ago) in my senior year of college I was pretty burnt out (double major plus a minor, no breaks over 45 months straight), but still applied to a couple of grad schools and was accepted, with the usual assistance offers. I decided instead to go to work for money, a decision I still wonder about to this day. How different would my life had been if I did go to UCSB or Rochester, instead of going to work for the military-industrial complex?

So, there are likely many promising future scholars who, because they are no longer welcome in this country courtesy of Trumpian policies, who either will not go forward in their field, or just go elsewhere.

The long term impact details of that is unknown, but I don’t see how it can be anything but negative for the US.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:22:54am

re: #146 freetoken

Large societies don’t change quickly.

During my lifetime we have seen change. The Civil Rights movement did indeed bring about change. The “sexual revolution” has indeed brought about change.

However, these changes are into a matrix of a society born out of a very rigid patriarchy, and the changes are incremental.

I think that the Sexual Revolution is still going on: attitudes about women are still shaping: before the sexual revolution, there were two classes of women: virgins and sluts. The former were to marry and raise families, the latter deserved whatever fate befell them.

We are starting to recognize that women need not belong to either category.

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Teukka  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:23:24am

Off-Topic, But…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:25:14am

re: #157 freetoken

Well yes, that’s what a xenophobe would say.

But that is not how graduate studies work.

The long term impact details of that is unknown, but I don’t see how it can be anything but negative for the US.

We are dealing with a zero-sum, foreigners-are-parasites view of America that we have to change if we are going to continue to prosper.

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freetoken  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:26:23am

re: #158 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think that the Sexual Revolution is still going on: attitudes about women are still shaping: before the sexual revolution, there were two classes of women: virgins and sluts. The former were to marry and raise families, the latter deserved whatever fate befell them.

We are starting to recognize that women need not belong to either category.

We see this even with Stormy. Many people, men but also some women, speak of her derisively as a “porn star”. Well, she was that, but why would that be any worse than say a “reality tv star”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:29:48am

re: #161 freetoken

We see this even with Stormy. Many people, men but also some women, speak of her derisively as a “porn star”. Well, she was that, but why would that be any worse than say a “reality tv star”.

“Slut shaming” is still a thing, as well as the notion that women who “dress like whores” deserve whatever happens to them. That is starting to change but is still well entrenched in a lot of society.

As for our obsession with orifices, what goes in them and what comes out, that is just a human trait that we refuse to grow out of.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:31:28am

re: #155 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am still registered in Arizona, which makes any Presidential vote against a Republican a moot point.

I live in Washington, so really it’s the same thing for me.

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freetoken  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:32:15am

re: #162 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As for our obsession with orifices, what goes in them and what comes out, that is just a human trait that we refuse to grow out of.

In this regards I found Japan to be rather different that American culture. They never really had a Victorian period in regards to mores. Still, women were (and still are in some ways) treated as property. But sex itself has a lot less mystique and shaming associated with it than in American culture.

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freetoken  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:41:38am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:49:41am

re: #164 freetoken

In this regards I found Japan to be rather different that American culture. They never really had a Victorian period in regards to mores. Still, women were (and still are in some ways) treated as property. But sex itself has a lot less mystique and shaming associated with it than in American culture.

It is this obsession with relating almost anything to do with our bodies to sexuality, and equating anything to do with sexuality to morality that characterizes the US, and the entirely stilted and subjective way we apply it to men vs women.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 16, 2018 • 1:04:19am

re: #133 HappyWarrior

Pat Buchanan honestly was Stephen Miller before Miller.

Hard to keep all the conservatives straight, with William F. Buckley, Jr. arguing for Jim Crow and South African apartheid to be maintained.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 16, 2018 • 1:07:12am

re: #137 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Yeah, I was mad enough to spit nails when Nixon was elected, but I was only 16, so I hadn’t had hope beaten out of me yet.

Hope is not beaten out of me. (Consider all the seats which have flipped from R to D since Mr. Trump was elected.)

There is always a crazification factor in the US electorate who will pull the lever for R-Beelzebub. That’s baked into the conservative cake, and yet we manage to overcome it.

There aren’t nearly as many conservatives nowadays who would openly argue against interracial marriage or for segregation (though some still do).

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Single-handed sailor  Apr 16, 2018 • 1:23:27am

We celebrate 500 years since slavery was brought to America.

In 1518, Charles I of Spain agreed to ship slaves directly from Africa. England played a prominent role in the Atlantic slave trade. The “slave triangle” was pioneered by Francis Drake and his associates.

YAY, us!

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Single-handed sailor  Apr 16, 2018 • 1:27:59am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 16, 2018 • 1:28:29am

re: #168 Anymouse 🌹

Hope is not beaten out of me. (Consider all the seats which have flipped from R to D since Mr. Trump was elected.)

There is always a crazification factor in the US electorate who will pull the lever for R-Beelzebub. That’s baked into the conservative cake, and yet we manage to overcome it.

There aren’t nearly as many conservatives nowadays who would openly argue against interracial marriage or for segregation (though some still do).

Oh, I’m hoping for another 2006 in November, and I have the wistful longing that the Democrats will actually take advantage of it this time.

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Anymouse 🌹  Apr 16, 2018 • 1:32:16am

re: #171 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Oh, I’m hoping for another 2006 in November, and I have the wistful longing that the Democrats will actually take advantage of it this time.

There are a whole lot of new people entering politics at all levels of governance, from cemetery boards to the US Senate. They are specifically motivated by the disaster that was 11/9.

My guess is an awful lot of those candidates if elected aren’t going to simply sit around supporting the status quo ante.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 1:35:10am

re: #172 Anymouse 🌹

There are a whole lot of new people entering politics at all levels of governance, from cemetery boards to the US Senate. They are specifically motivated by the disaster that was 11/9.

My guess is an awful lot of those candidates if elected aren’t going to simply sit around supporting the status quo ante.

If it takes a crisis to get people to act, then let us act nonetheless.

But it is going to take decades to undo the damage that DT has done and will do before he leaves office.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 1:37:38am

re: #169 Single-handed sailor

We celebrate 500 years since slavery was brought to America.

YAY, us!

Part of our vaunted Judeo-Christian Heritage of values.

This is not in the least meant to demean what white Europeans and their descendants have done for Western Civilization, but we need to keep it in perspective and see that not everything they did was admirable or worthy of emulation.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 16, 2018 • 1:50:19am

Contrary to much of the current slavery apologist propaganda, the slave trade was furiously controversial in both England and Spain right at the beginning, as was Spanish treatment of native Americans. Clergymen and philosophers railed against it, and many sea captains and common sailors refused to have anything to do with it. The profits were phenomenol however and successive governments found ways to allow it, mostly on the grounds that if we don’t reap those profits, someone else will. By the 18th century the opposition had become muted, almost resigned to it, only to be revived during the Enlightenment. This revival of anti-slavery agitation was ultimately successful but only after an epic political, moral and military struggle.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 16, 2018 • 1:54:41am

This made me laugh for some unknown reason:

Best of Mark Zuckerberg drinking Water Part 1 [ Compilation ]

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freetoken  Apr 16, 2018 • 1:56:07am

re: #175 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

It really is a good study in how a practice becomes “normalized”.

From the middle 17th century to the late 18th century the continued practice of slavery made it “normal”.

But even at the time of the writing of the US Constitution there was a debate over whether slavery ought to be kept.

And Haiti became independent shortly after the 19th century started and that was a the forefront of finally eliminating slavery in the Americas, in which we ought to point out that Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation was late compared to what had gone on the previous 6 decades.

But, back in the middle 17th century, the rapid increase in wealth from tobacco and sugar drove the acceptance of slavery as the way to do business in the New World, for the colonial powers.

Ultimately, slavery was about the desire for wealth.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 2:14:00am

re: #177 freetoken

It really is a good study in how a practice becomes “normalized”.

Ultimately, slavery was about the desire for wealth.

Plenty of people in the North accepted slavery where it existed, it did not lead to a national crisis until we expanded our territory and could not resolve the issue of whether the newly added states were to be free or slave.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 2:15:33am

re: #176 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

This made me laugh for some unknown reason:

I see the look of a fellow who hit on a great business model that made him billions without really thinking through what that business model might eventually lead to.

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freetoken  Apr 16, 2018 • 2:37:02am

re: #178 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Plenty of people in the North accepted slavery where it existed, it did not lead to a national crisis until we expanded our territory and could not resolve the issue of whether the newly added states were to be free or slave.

While that may be seen as the proximate issue leading up to the Civil War, there were many Americans concerned about slavery, enough so that after about 1790 laws became increasingly about restricting aspects of slavery.

See: academic.udayton.edu

Plenty of Americans were not only aware of the issue, but were divided over it.

This gets back to why slavery developed as it did in the New World: as part of the economics of agriculture. This is how slavery was “normalized” in the places where tobacco and sugar (and eventually cotton) were grown. In these regions the consciences of the lawmakers were seared by the flames of money.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 2:41:05am

re: #180 freetoken

While that may be seen as the proximate issue leading up to the Civil War, there were many Americans concerned about slavery, enough so that after about 1790 laws became increasingly about restricting aspects of slavery.

Especially after the Dredd Scott Decision and the Fugitive Slave Act enshrined property rights over human rights.

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Danack  Apr 16, 2018 • 3:29:26am

Top-tip, do not use Michael Cohen as your lawyer.

From here:

Investigators are examining whether Mr. Cohen fraudulently used a bank loan for something other than the purpose he described on his loan application, the person said.

*facepalm*

This guy. This guy.

How stupid do you have to be, to commit extra felonies while covering something up, that could otherwise be done legally?

Paying someone some money to not go to the press should be a relatively simple matter for a competent lawyer. But instead Michael Cohen tried to cover Trump’s tracks, and has given the FBI one of the easiest crimes to convict him of.

Assuming that he did lie on the bank loan application, all the FBI has to do is show that it was him that filled out the form….they don’t need to prove collusion, they don’t need to show state of mind, they don’t need to explain complicated financial transactions to a judge or jury.

All they have to do is show that Mr Cohen used the money for paying someone off, but didn’t write that on the application form.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 16, 2018 • 3:36:33am

re: #182 Danack

Top-tip, do not use Michael Cohen as your lawyer.

From here:

*facepalm*

This guy. This guy.

How stupid do you have to be, to commit extra felonies while covering something up, that could otherwise be done legally?

Paying someone some money to not go to the press should be a relatively simple matter for a competent lawyer. But instead Michael Cohen tried to cover Trump’s tracks, and has given the FBI one of the easiest crimes to convict him of.

Assuming that he did lie on the bank loan application, all the FBI has to do is show that it was him that filled out the form….they don’t need to prove collusion, they don’t need to show state of mind, they don’t need to explain complicated financial transactions to a judge or jury.

All they have to do is show that Mr Cohen used the money for paying someone off, but didn’t write that on the application form.

Anybody around tRump is just going to be completely incompetent. Even Bush the Lesser, incompetent as he was, kept people around him like James Baker and Dick Cheney (say what you will about him, he was competent) because he recognized his limitations.

Trump and all his spawn and spawns-in-law and sycophants are so superlatively incompetent they can’t even conceive what competence means.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 3:39:22am

re: #183 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Anybody around tRump is just going to be completely incompetent. Even Bush the Lesser, incompetent as he was, kept people around him like James Baker and Dick Cheney (say what you will about him, he was competent) because he recognized his limitations.

Trump and all his spawn and spawns-in-law and sycophants are so superlatively incompetent they can’t even conceive what competence means.

Bush had some concept of public service, which entails being accountable for one’s actions and not able to hush up or walk away from transgressions.

That lesson has not taken root in the current administration.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 16, 2018 • 4:28:49am
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freetoken  Apr 16, 2018 • 4:36:56am

Reading the APS program various presentations, I’m reminded once again why so many time-travel stories/TV/movies get time travel so wrong.

Namely, unlike so many stories, the instant anyone with even a tiniest bit of insight into their own contingent existence, if they had even the slightest wherewithal to do anything, would immediately destroy any device and kill everyone working on it. Pronto.

Because implications.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 4:38:43am

re: #186 freetoken

Reading the APS program various presentations, I’m reminded once again why so many time-travel stories/TV/movies get time travel so wrong.

Namely, unlike so many stories, the instant anyone with even a tiniest bit of insight into their own contingent existence, if they had even the slightest wherewithal to do anything, would immediately destroy any device and kill everyone working on it. Pronto.

Because implications.

Because who would want the world to find out that they’d had sex with their own grandmother?

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 16, 2018 • 4:42:04am

re: #185 Barefoot Grin

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Trump has been an absolute genius at creating so much havoc and generating so many scandals that neither the media nor the American public can keep up.

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freetoken  Apr 16, 2018 • 4:43:24am

How a prankster President could punk centuries of historians in the future:

Said President issues a highly-classified executive order directing national assets to immediately seize and destroy any time machines and silence the researchers.

Doesn’t matter if such things don’t exist.

Then, in 75 or 100 years, whenever the classification laws determine when classifications expired due to age, all of a sudden historians will stumble across said EO.

And they will wonder.

They will definitely wonder.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 16, 2018 • 4:50:44am

re: #188 Patricia Kayden

Trump has been an absolute genius at creating so much havoc and generating so many scandals that neither the media nor the American public can keep up.

As commenters noted, it may or may not include the $26,000,000 one-year deal to an event-planner friend of Melania.

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freetoken  Apr 16, 2018 • 4:53:56am

re: #190 Barefoot Grin

As commenters noted, it may or may not include the $26,000,000 one-year deal to an event-planner friend of Melania.

We need a wall chart.

We need a really big wall chart.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 16, 2018 • 4:56:47am

re: #191 freetoken

We need a wall chart.

We need a really big wall chart.

Sounds like you’d need one of those charts like Glenn Beck used to make. It’d be just as confusing, too.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 16, 2018 • 4:59:30am

re: #187 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because who would want the world to find out that they’d had sex with their own grandmother?

Or possibly their own mother, which was the dilemma Marty McFly could have faced. (Not that she or he would have, it being a PG-13 movie and all.)

I was reflecting on my decisions in life the other day, and realized even one change 34 years ago would have meant marrying a different woman potentially and having entirely different children and career. Imagine that on a larger scale, like changing the outcome of the 1860 election in the USA.

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freetoken  Apr 16, 2018 • 4:59:47am

re: #192 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Sounds like you’d need one of those charts like Glenn Beck used to make. It’d be just as confusing, too.

I’m thinking more like planetarium in size and function.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 16, 2018 • 5:01:41am

re: #194 freetoken

I’m thinking more like planetarium in size and function.

Then you might be accused of projection.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 5:08:47am

re: #188 Patricia Kayden

Trump has been an absolute genius at creating so much havoc and generating so many scandals that neither the media nor the American public can keep up.

and we fixate on Stormy Daniels, which allows them to distract by pointing out Bill Clinton

Trump is truly a genius at manipulating the media, that is one of the things that helped put him into office

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 5:09:34am

re: #191 freetoken

We need a wall chart.

We need a really big wall chart.

one about the size of the US-Mexican border?

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 16, 2018 • 5:21:15am

Good morning Lizards. The monsoon arrived in Philadelphia overnight.

No new cat pictures since they are all on the other computer, which does not like LGF for some reason.

I will take my coffee on the veranda this morning, thank you very much

And the apartment is a mess since I am sorting stuff out for a move at the beginning of May. Given the weather I think the trip to Goodwill to donate stuff is going to be delayed.

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 5:44:53am

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹

So Mr. Comey thinks that Trump is morally unfit to be president, but doesn’t think impeachment is an appropriate route … the voters should just vote him out in 2020.

If he was just an incompetent boob but surrounded himself with expert advice, I might agree with that assessment.

You don’t wait for the next family caucus to wonder if an arsonist should be booted out of your home while burning it down, even if someone in the home originally invited him in.

While James Comey was a long-time FBI employee, he is first and foremost a conservative.

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jeffreyw  Apr 16, 2018 • 5:45:17am

Imgur

Imgur

Good morning!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 16, 2018 • 5:46:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 16, 2018 • 5:46:25am
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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 16, 2018 • 5:46:44am

re: #200 jeffreyw

Checking how the new birdie crop is coming along?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 5:47:15am

re: #199 dangerman

While James Comey was a long-time FBI employee, he is first and foremost a conservative.

but we see what happens to conservatives who are not “conservative enough”

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jeffreyw  Apr 16, 2018 • 5:49:18am

re: #203 Feline Fearless Leader

He was hoping for squirrel, would settle for bird, came away sans even a crust of bread because it didn’t suit his paleo diet.

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 5:49:25am

re: #93 freetoken

Comey reflects well the “Never Trump” folk who still fail to accept that Trump’s rise to power did not happen in a vacuum.

we should stop saying this in the passive voice

the “Never Trump” folk who still fail to accept that they were instrumental in facilitating Trump’s rise to power

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 16, 2018 • 5:50:13am

re: #204 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

but we see what happens to conservatives who are not “conservative enough”

Why they wind up just like Communists who were purged when Comrade Stalin was calling the shots in the USSR!

Which is why I keep pushing the point that there is now no difference between the Republican Party and the Soviet Communist Party. You deviate from the Party Line and you’re purged.

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 5:53:29am

re: #94 JordanRules

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“The power exercised wrongly by such prosecutors is staggering”

Like the Starbucks thing they turn off the humanity switch and then act with a sort of moral superiority and indignation. ” Thems the rules and I’m just following them”

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Belafon  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:08:25am

re: #58 Blind Frog Belly White

Well, you know Trump is ‘Zero Sum’ kinda guy. He probably figures that if you let foreign students into our universities, they’ll absorb some of the knowledge that would otherwise go to American students.

If you prevent a foreigner from coming in, then colleges will lower their standards to let church taught “science” students in. //

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:11:24am

Glad I changed my mind about buying Comey’s book. I am not going to enrich that man. Nope.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:11:43am

re: #209 Belafon

If you prevent a foreigner from coming in, then colleges will lower their standards to let church taught “science” students in. //

that is the counter-argument: these foreign students are taking things away from hard-working, home-schooled Americans

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:15:48am

re: #159 Teukka

Off-Topic, But…

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Looks like cosmic pong

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:16:56am

A white collar lawyer has reportedly declined the chance to serve on President Trump’s legal team.

CNN reported New York attorney Steven Molo — a former special prosecutor who specializes in white collar defense — was contacted by people close to Trump.

Molo declined the offer due to an unidentified conflict.
“I regret a current conflict related to the investigation prevents me from representing the President at this time,” Molo told CNN.

“unidentified conflict”….LOL

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:17:18am

Am I going to buy that enablers book?

Hell NO!!!!!!

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:18:24am

re: #161 freetoken

We see this even with Stormy. Many people, men but also some women, speak of her derisively as a “porn star”. Well, she was that, but why would that be any worse than say a “reality tv star”.

And she is wearing her business/economic choices like a crown

One reason why she’s doing so well in the media. She’s left them nothing to “attack”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:19:38am

re: #215 dangerman

And she is wearing her business/economic choices like a crown

One reason why she’s doing so well in the media. She’s left them nothing to “attack”

Heck, she got a man to pay $130K for something he could get for less than $100

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:20:23am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:22:02am
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wheat-dogg  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:23:43am

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sounds like a winning idea! Go for it, Mike!

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:24:41am

re: #177 freetoken

It really is a good study in how a practice becomes “normalized”.

From the middle 17th century to the late 18th century the continued practice of slavery made it “normal”.

But even at the time of the writing of the US Constitution there was a debate over whether slavery ought to be kept.

And Haiti became independent shortly after the 19th century started and that was a the forefront of finally eliminating slavery in the Americas, in which we ought to point out that Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation was late compared to what had gone on the previous 6 decades.

But, back in the middle 17th century, the rapid increase in wealth from tobacco and sugar drove the acceptance of slavery as the way to do business in the New World, for the colonial powers.

Ultimately, slavery was about the desire for wealth.

of course it was
if they didnt need so much “free labor” there would have been no point to it

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:27:30am

In the interview, Comey said he thought Trump was of above average intelligence. So maybe the comparisons to a real mob boss are accurate. Recall that L&O episode where a mob boss pretended to be demented so he could avoid trial. Maybe that is Trump’s shtick all along.

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freetoken  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:30:54am

re: #220 dangerman

of course it was
if they didnt need so much “free labor” there would have been no point to it

Well, at times and places, slaves were used as soldiers.

Then there was/is the whole sex-slave/bride thing.

I simply repeated the oft realized observation that in the Americas, slavery was about tobacco, sugar, and cotton economics.

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:31:33am

re: #221 Hecuba’s daughter

In the interview, Comey said he thought Trump was of above average intelligence. So maybe the comparisons to a real mob boss are accurate. Recall that L&O episode where a mob boss pretended to be demented so he could avoid trial. Maybe that is Trump’s shtick all along.

Comey’s judgement is suspect so even on this account I’m not inclined to agree. I don’t think Trump has the discipline for such an act. Love that L&O episode!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:31:33am

re: #221 Hecuba’s daughter

In the interview, Comey said he thought Trump was of above average intelligence. So maybe the comparisons to a real mob boss are accurate. Recall that L&O episode where a mob boss pretended to be demented so he could avoid trial. Maybe that is Trump’s shtick all along.

That’s based off a real guy, Vincent Gigante.

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makeitstop  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:31:45am

re: #221 Hecuba’s daughter

In the interview, Comey said he thought Trump was of above average intelligence. So maybe the comparisons to a real mob boss are accurate. Recall that L&O episode where a mob boss pretended to be demented so he could avoid trial. Maybe that is Trump’s shtick all along.

That was more than a Law & Order episode - Vincent Gigante did it in real life.

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:31:46am

re: #179 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I see the look of a fellow who hit on a great business model that made him billions without really thinking through what that business model might eventually lead to.

Without really thinking how to execute that model without hurting or exploiting other people

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:34:11am

re: #222 freetoken

Well, at times and places, slaves were used as soldiers.

Then there was/is the whole sex-slave/bride thing.

I simply repeated the oft realized observation that in the Americas, slavery was about tobacco, sugar, and cotton economics.

It is certainly complicated as are many of it’s legacies.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:34:44am

re: #221 Hecuba’s daughter

In the interview, Comey said he thought Trump was of above average intelligence. So maybe the comparisons to a real mob boss are accurate. Recall that L&O episode where a mob boss pretended to be demented so he could avoid trial. Maybe that is Trump’s shtick all along.

Ah, the ol’ Vincent “The Chin” Gigante play?

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:35:58am

re: #188 Patricia Kayden

Trump has been an absolute genius at creating so much havoc and generating so many scandals that neither the media nor the American public can keep up.

Not genius
Just tornado

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wheat-dogg  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:38:14am

re: #229 dangerman

Not genius
Just tornado

He has weaponized Twitter to great effect. His near-daily tweetstorms divert attention from the more substantive actions his administration takes.

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makeitstop  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:39:54am

An amazing thread to start the morning.

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Belafon  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:40:42am

re: #230 wheat-dogg

He has weaponized Twitter to great effect. His near-daily tweetstorms divert attention from the more substantive actions his administration takes.

Except his tweets are policy, especially when it comes to firing people.

But, I think we still know how pointless his attack on Syria was, what we wants to do in his investigations, the people he’s appointed to various departments and the damage they are doing.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:44:07am

re: #232 Belafon

Except his tweets are policy, especially when it comes to firing people.

But, I think we still know how pointless his attack on Syria was, what we wants to do in his investigations, the people he’s appointed to various departments and the damage they are doing.

He bleated earlier about China and Russia “devaluing” their currencies against the dollar, when the truth is more like the dollar is slipping overall against many currencies, even Bitcoin if you consider that a more reliable indicator of forex rates.

marketwatch.com

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:44:36am

I cannot believe he hasn’t stepped down.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:48:15am

re: #220 dangerman

of course it was
if they didnt need so much “free labor” there would have been no point to it

they could not get white people to do that kind of hard work, and the Natives would just run off into the wilderness.

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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:48:31am

re: #231 makeitstop

Yup. It is. Good for her!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:49:37am

re: #226 dangerman

Without really thinking how to execute that model without hurting or exploiting other people

I am not rationalizing or defending it bu yeah, he got caught up so heavily in the wealth and notoriety of it that I am sure he did not really take time to think through what it could lead to.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:51:08am

re: #233 wheat-dogg

He bleated earlier about China and Russia “devaluing” their currencies against the dollar, when the truth is more like the dollar is slipping overall against many currencies, even Bitcoin if you consider that a more reliable indicator of forex rates.

marketwatch.com

this coming from a a man who had to call up in the middle of the night to ask an adviser whether a strong dollar or a weak dollar was bitter

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:51:09am

re: #222 freetoken

Well, at times and places, slaves were used as soldiers.

Then there was/is the whole sex-slave/bride thing.

I simply repeated the oft realized observation that in the Americas, slavery was about tobacco, sugar, and cotton economics.

Oh absolutely..
Though soldiers are a form of labor
And if it was merely sex slave based it would not have grown to the institution size it did
And there virtually would have been no men slaves..no need

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:52:39am

re: #231 makeitstop

Ana amazing thread to start the morning.

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That was awesome!

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:52:57am

re: #230 wheat-dogg

He has weaponized Twitter to great effect. His near-daily tweetstorms divert attention from the more substantive actions his administration takes.

That, yes. He definitely did that
I blame @jack et Al for this mess more than anyone else

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Teukka  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:54:06am

re: #229 dangerman

Not genius
Just tornadoshitnado

FTFY.

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:56:45am

re: #231 makeitstop

An amazing thread to start the morning.

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Prayer should be a loving act, not a bizarre political weapon

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Belafon  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:57:47am

re: #241 dangerman

That, yes. He definitely did that
I blame @jack et Al for this mess more than anyone else

And Congress for not telling Trump he has to shut it down.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 16, 2018 • 6:58:16am

re: #226 dangerman

Without really thinking how to execute that model without hurting or exploiting other people

He never cared whether it hurt other people. Most of the tech billionaires don’t care about whether their products hurt others — they care about creating something new and exciting and making money.

OTOH it’s not only tech billionaires who are like that — the pharmaceutical heads didn’t care when they marketed the highly addictive opioids nor tobacco companies care that their products kill millions. Hmmm — maybe the issue is that many people don’t care what they do as long as they acquire great wealth in the process.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:00:54am

re: #245 Hecuba’s daughter

Hmmm — maybe the issue is that many people don’t care what they do as long as they acquire great wealth in the process.

When you are the product of a society in which your value as a human being is measured by the size of your fortune, that is an easy thing to fall into, and you find yourself surrounded by no end of enablers and admirers.

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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:07:27am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

Everyone on the right is playing to type.

Dershowitz attacking the ACLU on Fox, claiming that they don’t protect everyone’s civil rights (patently bullshit, but that’s what we expect from a guy who continually goes on Fox to audition for a role in Trump’s legal team, even as he knows he’ll never get paid for that work should Trump get him to sign on).

Then there’s the nonstop attacks on Comey from the right from Fox, White House toadys, etc.

It’s entirely predictable and expected.

The problem for all these people is that the Comey book, the Steele dossier, and FBI behavior continues to get corroborated by events and facts every day since Comey interceded with the Clinton letter in October 2016.

Comey’s behavior then was inexcusable and wrong, but what he says and does about Trump can be accurate and factual. These are not opposite views that cannot coexist.

They are positions that can coexist, mostly because we’ve seen allegations against Trump get corroborated from multiple sources in multiple ways.

Trump lies. We know this. We see this daily. He lies about everything - big and inconsequential. It’s what he does.

He bullies. He is reactionary. He doesn’t have a sustained worldview or hold any near and dear policy positions, because he can’t remember what he said or tweeted previously.

It’s all seemingly stream of consciousness - pure ego, vanity, and insecurity.

But there’s one bit I want to reiterate.

Right wingers attack Comey and the FBI and the Steele dossier claiming it’s all proof that Comey was a Clinton hack whose lies and covering for Clinton makes her treasonous.

These same know-nothings would have treated a dossier about Clinton as the Holy Grail that the FBI, DOJ, CIA, NSA, and every other govt entity and law enforcement at every level would have needed to treat as a top priority to prosecute and convict Clinton (skipping the indictment and presumption of innocence). But because it’s Trump, they’ll deflect and project.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:10:04am

re: #247 lawhawk

Right wingers attack Comey and the FBI and the Steele dossier claiming it’s all proof that Comey was a Clinton hack whose lies and covering for Clinton makes her treasonous.

Spinning Comey as a Clinton hack takes some serious bending of facts and logic.

But nothing that these folks cannot manage when there is a Higher Good at stake here.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:17:46am

I remember Trump loving Comey when Comey did his October act. If anyone is owed an apology by Comey, it ain’t Trump, it’s HRC. Comey could have but chose not to reveal that Trump was under investigation at the time. For all Trump and his allies attacks on Comey, he helped them more than not.

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:17:54am
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I cannot.  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:19:05am

re: #202 Backwoods_Sleuth

Can somebody run that through the Dementia-Addled Stupid Asshole to English translator for me? ‘cause I got no idea what he means, I mean, even less of an idea than usual.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:20:30am
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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:21:27am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:24:11am

re: #250 JordanRules

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Comey ain’t Mueller, that’s for sure.

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Belafon  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:24:12am

re: #250 JordanRules

I really do think that misogyny is the answer to his actions in October, 2016.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:25:22am

re: #253 JordanRules

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I just saw that KAC apparently said “This guy swung an election” on TV this morning. She’s now scrambling around saying “it was obviously sarcasm!!!” Even if it was, it’s fun watching her get played.

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:26:46am

re: #256 Barefoot Grin

I just saw that KAC apparently said “This guy swung an election” on TV this morning. She’s now scrambling around saying “it was obviously sarcasm!!!” Even if it was, it’s fun watching her get played.

And knowing her husband probably agrees is a fun touch too!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:27:27am

re: #255 Belafon

I really do think that misogyny is the answer to his actions in October, 2016.

Hmmm explains why he thinks highly of both Obama and Bush. I don’t know. Comey is hard for me to get a feel on.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:29:19am

re: #258 HappyWarrior

Hmmm explains why he thinks highly of both Obama and Bush. I don’t know. Comey is hard for me to get a feel on.

It’s probably a mix of misogyny and a healthy dose of latent, longstanding hatred of the Clintons from Whitewater days.

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:30:16am

re: #255 Belafon

I really do think that misogyny is the answer to his actions in October, 2016.

I find myself agreeing with you more and more on this.

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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:32:08am

re: #258 HappyWarrior

I’m also thinking that he was probably played by the NY office, which seemed to have it out for Clinton, but he doesn’t want to attack that office since they’re engaging in ongoing investigations into multiple Trump criminal acts right now.

Comey should have kept quiet on both Clinton and Trump investigations until there was more known about both. Or he should have said that both were under investigation.

Saying Clinton was and Trump wasn’t when Trump clearly was is where Comey’s problems start.

To say Comey is a Clinton loyalist shows the pretzel logic behind all this. Comey’s actions clearly helped Trump and harmed Clinton. The effect to which might have been small, but sufficient to sway just enough people in just enough places to throw the election to Trump.

And that’s the problem. Comey did interfere. And he is trying to rationalize his actions as though it was for the greater good when his omission was an even bigger problem.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:32:15am

re: #259 Barefoot Grin

It’s probably a mix of misogyny and a healthy dose of latent, longstanding hatred of the Clintons from Whitewater days.

Yes.

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Danack  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:32:23am

Via fark:

James Comey blames Obama for bringing political pressure to bear on the Hillary email investigation

Step 0: Be Republican director of FBI.

Step 1: Issue unprecedented press conference to announce Dem candidate is a bad, nasty, reckless, awful disaster of an email-misuser but, um, thereisnogroundsforfurtherinvestigatio​nthanksbye.

Step 2: Mention nothing to anyone ever of the fact that half of the GOP candidate’s campaign is under investigation for some light treason.

Step 3: As the clock ticks down, tell the Congressional GOP that you have reopened the investigation into whether the Dem candidate has emailed wrongly. Let the investigation close almost immediately afterwards because lol turns out it was nothing. Mention nothing of the other candidate’s light treason.

Step 4: Welcome new glorious GOP President, who will surely restore law and order and finally give you the respect you deserve.

Step 5: I never thought the leopards would eat my face.

Step 6: Must have been the black guy’s fault.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:32:55am

re: #261 lawhawk

I’m also thinking that he was probably played by the NY office, which seemed to have it out for Clinton, but he doesn’t want to attack that office since they’re engaging in ongoing investigations into multiple Trump criminal acts right now.

Comey should have kept quiet on both Clinton and Trump investigations until there was more known about both. Or he should have said that both were under investigation.

Saying Clinton was and Trump wasn’t when Trump clearly was is where Comey’s problems start.

To say Comey is a Clinton loyalist shows the pretzel logic behind all this. Comey’s actions clearly helped Trump and harmed Clinton. The effect to which might have been small, but sufficient to sway just enough people in just enough places to throw the election to Trump.

And that’s the problem. Comey did interfere. And he is trying to rationalize his actions as though it was for the greater good when his omission was an even bigger problem.

Agreed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:33:54am

meanwhile in Kentucky:

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coin operated  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:34:48am

There are very few things I’ll give Obama bad grades for, and this is one of them. Obama knew the FBI was looking into Trump but let Comey play his little game. This alone should have triggered his on the fucking spot firing and a public address as to why Comey was shown the door.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:35:36am
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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:36:50am

re: #246 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

When you are the product of a society in which your value as a human being is measured by the size of your fortune, that is an easy thing to fall into, and you find yourself surrounded by no end of enablers and admirers.

…and hangers-on leeches

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:37:19am
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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:38:12am

re: #264 HappyWarrior

re: #261 lawhawk

re: #250 JordanRules

Comey is a deeply devoted FBI man shaped by great events. I think the weight of shaping events damaged his judgement. He did the right thing at Ashcrofts bedside. But in later years seemingly started to second guess the usual guardrails like weight of evidence and election timing.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:38:13am

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s almost like Kellyanne has no idea whom she works for and is a total hack.

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:39:27am

re: #247 lawhawk

this part here:

Comey’s behavior then was inexcusable and wrong, but what he says and does about Trump can be accurate and factual. These are not opposite views that cannot coexist.

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Belafon  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:39:52am

re: #259 Barefoot Grin

It’s probably a mix of misogyny and a healthy dose of latent, longstanding hatred of the Clintons from Whitewater days.

And, it seems, a large ego. Larger than even the usual required to run a large organization.

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:43:26am

re: #250 JordanRules

Maybe it’s just me…the more I hear from @comey, the more conflicted I feel. I want to believe him that this is all about loyalty to country and inviolable respect for the truth. But damn, the guy has a big ego, is selectively inconsistent. I find him obnoxiously self-righteous.

maybe, it is you

if you forget about the bolded nonsense, the search for his patriotic sense of duty, you’ll never be satisfued.

focus on what he says happened that he can prove because we are in this situation

musing about what his motives are or were distracts from verifying that what he’s saying is true

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:44:13am

re: #252 Unshaken Defiance

To GOP- how do you explain away the thinnest of evidence was good enough against Saddam, Obama, HRC… And yet the self declared pussy grabber in chief is believed innocent despite the court rulings, publicly available evidence, official statements from numerous agency heads?

tax cuts

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:44:22am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:45:55am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:46:08am

re: #259 Barefoot Grin

It’s probably a mix of misogyny and a healthy dose of latent, longstanding hatred of the Clintons from Whitewater days.

Still it really lends him a lot of credence when he comes out against Trump as he does.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:48:41am

re: #234 JordanRules

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I cannot believe he hasn’t stepped down.

I can because IOKIYAR strikes again!

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:49:50am

re: #274 dangerman

maybe, it is you

if you forget about the bolded nonsense, the search for his patriotic sense of duty, you’ll never be satisfued.

focus on what he says happened that he can prove because we are in this situation

musing about what his motives are or were distracts from verifying that what he’s saying is true

Then he probably shouldn’t be talking now since he’s part of the investigation so his motives come into play again for me.

I don’t find it distracting to discuss both. I don’t know why he would be absolved from a discussion about who he is and why he did what he did. Nobody else is.

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:49:56am

re: #266 coin operated

There are very few things I’ll give Obama bad grades for, and this is one of them. Obama knew the FBI was looking into Trump but let Comey play his little game. This alone should have triggered his on the fucking spot firing and a public address as to why Comey was shown the door.

while you are right, 100% right
he probably thought he had to stay far away from it, otherwise no matter what he did he’d contaminate clinton’s likely/almosted assured win for the next 8 years

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makeitstop  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:49:57am

Says Who sees that bus a-comin’ down the block…

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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:50:24am

re: #277 Backwoods_Sleuth

Two things here.

1) Govt can claim Cohen wasn’t practicing law re: Trump, and therefore no attorney client privilege exists and the crime fraud exception isn’t applicable.
2) Govt can treat Cohen as a lawyer and rely on the crime fraud exception to go after Cohen and Trump because of their criminal acts.

Again, these theories can both be used in the case.

Govt can claim he’s not acting as a lawyer in regards to Trump, Cohen can assert he’s a lawyer, and the govt can rebut with the crime fraud exception.

Either way, Trump and Cohen are in jeopardy because Cohen’s been Trump’s fixer for a long time - not handling legal matters, but as an extension of Trump’s bullying and bloviating methods.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:50:58am

re: #278 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Still it really lends him a lot of credence when he comes out against Trump as he does.

Oh, absolutely. As others (and perhaps you) have pointed out, having bias against HRC and being an otherwise able leader of the FBI who is clear on Trump’s character and his obstruction are not mutually exclusive

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:52:15am

re: #278 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Still it really lends him a lot of credence when he comes out against Trump as he does.

This is a nice little unintended benefit.

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:54:42am

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

NEW: Michael Cohen says he gave legal advice to three clients in the last year: Donald Trump, GOP fundraiser Eilliott Broidy and a third person he refuses to identify in court filing

why would he limit it to only “in the last year”?

that doesnt cover the creation of the daniels nda

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:56:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 16, 2018 • 7:58:08am
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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:00:25am

SMH

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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:00:25am

re: #286 dangerman

He’s still thinking he’s clever.

The problem is that the legal team he’s up against is far better and more clever than he is.

As I pointed out, the warrant was issued using the crime fraud exception. So, even if he was practicing law, he’s rogered thanks to the fact you can’t use attorney client privilege to shield criminal acts, frauds, and misdeeds like this.

But if he’s limiting himself to these three clients, then he’s got a problem too, because any other correspondences not relating to those three clients is therefore not governed by attorney client privilege and there’s a lower standard of evidence involved.

For the three clients, the government’s already got the crime fraud exception in play.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:00:42am

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Treasury Department, an extension of Teump’s White House, said in FRIDAY that China and Russia were NOT devaluing their currency.

well, then they better get their message in line!

typical deep-staters

/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:00:58am
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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:01:01am

re: #280 JordanRules

Then he probably shouldn’t be talking now since he’s part of the investigation so his motives come into play again for me.

I don’t find it distracting to discuss both. I don’t know why he would be absolved from a discussion about who he is and why he did what he did. Nobody else is.

i know.
i know we can do two things at once, and capably
this is just my opinion - im not really advocating for anything

i just don’t care about him any more
who he is/ was, why he did what he did, whether it was right/wrong or otherwise, how much damage he cause, whether he’s cashing in, being patriotic or whatever

im only interested in getting us out of this mess and to a somewhat better place (i’ll even delay “getting back on track” to later)

so all i want now is ammo. what’s he got, what’s he know, what can be used

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makeitstop  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:02:00am

And this morning’s news in my immediate area…

Police on Long Island have seized multiple weapons and ammunition from the home of a man accused of threatening an employee of a school in Rockland County.

Clarkstown police notified Suffolk County police that 32-year-old Robert Csak, of Lindenhurst, left a threatening message on the answering machine of an employee of the Summit School in Upper Nyack on Saturday.

Police say Csak attend the school in 2002. Officers went to Csak’s home and after obtaining a search warrant seized 19 firearms, including a shotgun, a Tommy gun, high-capacity magazines, night vision goggles, a bump stock and other items.

I heard the police spokesman on the radio last night. He sounded positively shook that this guy had such an arsenal. He said ‘There’s no telling what we might have prevented here.’

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:02:08am

re: #293 dangerman

im only interested in getting us out of this mess and to a somewhat better place (i’ll even delay “getting back on track” to later)

I think that each year DT remains in office will take at least a decade to repair

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:02:14am

re: #293 dangerman

i know.
i know we can do two things at once, and capably
this is just my opinion - im not really advocating for anything

i just don’t care about him any more
who he is/ was, why he did what he did, whether it was right/wrong or otherwise, how much damage he cause, whether he’s cashing in, being patriotic or whatever

im only interested in getting us out of this mess and to a somewhat better place (i’ll even delay “getting back on track” to later)

so all i want now is ammo. what’s he got, what’s he know, what can be used

I can certainly understand that viewpoint.

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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:03:52am

More deflecting and projecting from Trumpworld:

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:03:56am

re: #283 lawhawk

Two things here.

1) Govt can claim Cohen wasn’t practicing law re: Trump, and therefore no attorney client privilege exists and the crime fraud exception isn’t applicable.
2) Govt can treat Cohen as a lawyer and rely on the crime fraud exception to go after Cohen and Trump because of their criminal acts.

Again, these theories can both be used in the case.

Govt can claim he’s not acting as a lawyer in regards to Trump, Cohen can assert he’s a lawyer, and the govt can rebut with the crime fraud exception.

Either way, Trump and Cohen are in jeopardy because Cohen’s been Trump’s fixer for a long time - not handling legal matters, but as an extension of Trump’s bullying and bloviating methods.

i read cohen may want to represent himself
what an irony if he’s approved to be his own lawyer and then it’s ruled he wasn’t trump’s lawyer

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:04:46am
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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:05:52am

re: #298 dangerman

Cohen would find himself in even deeper trouble if he did that.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:07:10am

Meeting with Abe who is himself involved in scandal over his wife’s connections to a private school and dubious land dealing for the school.

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:07:15am
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sagehen  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:08:53am

re: #193 wheat-dogg

Or possibly their own mother, which was the dilemma Marty McFly could have faced. (Not that she or he would have, it being a PG-13 movie and all.)

I was reflecting on my decisions in life the other day, and realized even one change 34 years ago would have meant marrying a different woman potentially and having entirely different children and career. Imagine that on a larger scale, like changing the outcome of the 1860 election in the USA.

If you step on a butterfly…
en.wikipedia.org

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:09:45am

re: #301 Barefoot Grin

Meeting with Abe who is himself involved in scandal over his wife’s connections to a private school and dubious land dealing for the school.

Large demonstrations in various cities against Abe corruption scandals:

asahi.com

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:10:43am

re: #295 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think that each year DT remains in office will take at least a decade to repair

may be
still those are problems id rather be having and arguing about

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I cannot.  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:14:09am

re: #300 lawhawk

*looks at Cohen’s behavior up to this point, then orders more popcorn*

Need MOAR!

He’s probably gonna self-represent. This is going to be glorious.

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BeachDem  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:14:57am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

meanwhile in Kentucky:

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I mentioned that Alison Lundergan Grimes is going to be a speaker at our convention this weekend. Really hope she talks about Bevin and what an asshole he is. (She probably won’t, but it would be great.)

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makeitstop  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:16:53am

Maybe Says Who is going to represent himself because he’s got the same problem as Trump - no one who values his professional reputation wants to be associated with him.

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danarchy  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:17:20am

re: #287 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Give ol G.K. a break. Tampons didn’t exist in 1908 when the book was first published.

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ObserverArt  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:19:48am

re: #256 Barefoot Grin

I just saw that KAC apparently said “This guy swung an election” on TV this morning. She’s now scrambling around saying “it was obviously sarcasm!!!” Even if it was, it’s fun watching her get played.

Kellyanne has too many loose strings of BS hanging out there. She now has the problem explaining away the old so she can fit in the new.

I just want her to go away. She knows she is full of it. It’s been said she ever jokes about it prior to the camera light coming on and then it is Kellyanne time and the BS flows.

I never knew who she war prior to 2015. I hope I forget who she is by the end of this year.

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Belafon  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:20:54am

re: #299 JordanRules

What’s going to have to happen is that Democrats are going to have to win elections over and over until the GOP is forced to change.

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:21:09am

re: #309 danarchy

Give ol G.K. a break. Tampons didn’t exist in 1908 when the book was first published.

LOL
I think they were when this cover was commissioned though.

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:24:03am
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Belafon  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:24:48am
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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:27:33am

So, there was a prison riot in South Carolina, and we’re starting to learn details of what happened.

Prisoners fought and killed each other, and corrections officers didn’t do enough to stop the fighting - leading to still more casualties.

This is no way to run a prison system. That’s not what it’s there for.

UPDATE:
At least 7 were killed in this single deadly outbreak of violence, but since 2017, 20 have been killed in South Carolina prisons.

Again - this goes to how the prisons are being run with a disregard for the safety of the prisoners and corrections staff too.

If you make the prison dangerous for the prisoners, you’re making it more dangerous for the corrections officers as well.

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Teukka  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:31:21am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:33:38am

re: #313 JordanRules

You will not be able to write a history of this period in America without devoting at least half your text to the transparent and vulgar collapse in the rule of law. This is transparent corruption, kleptocracy — and it barely makes the news.

even Putin has the decency to insulate himself from his business dealings with a layer or two of oligarchy

I guess this is indicative of the fact that DT has nobody he can trust like Putin trusts his oligarchs

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sagehen  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:35:40am

re: #281 dangerman

while you are right, 100% right
he probably thought he had to stay far away from it, otherwise no matter what he did he’d contaminate clinton’s likely/almosted assured win for the next 8 years

He could have just not appointed Comey in the first place; at the time, DailyKos was pretty upset that by putting a Republican at FBI (just like by keeping Robert Gates at Defense) he was playing to a narrative Republicans care more and have more expertise at fighting war and fighting crime. Democrats care more and have more expertise at environmental protection, but you’ll never see an R president put a D in that post…

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plansbandc  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:36:46am

re: #287 Backwoods_Sleuth

Heh! When I first saw the pic, I was wondering if it was a protest poster of some sort.

Cover fail.

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ObserverArt  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:36:55am

re: #297 lawhawk

More deflecting and projecting from Trumpworld:

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More hoping Hillary moves on…but we will keep beating her many dead horses for as long as we can.

We might even reanimate a few so we can beat them dead again.

Move on Hillary…but don’t go too far.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:37:15am

re: #318 sagehen

He could have just not appointed Comey in the first place; at the time, DailyKos was pretty upset that by putting a Republican at FBI (just like by keeping Robert Gates at Defense) he was playing to a narrative Republicans care more and have more expertise at fighting war and fighting crime. Democrats care more and have more expertise at environmental protection, but you’ll never see an R president put a D in that post…

It reflects on a time when Presidents appointed people based on their competence and professional record and not just for their personal and political loyalty

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ObserverArt  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:39:52am

re: #311 Belafon

What’s going to have to happen is that Democrats are going to have to win elections over and over until the GOP is forced to change.

If the GOP can use the Clintons for 35+ years, the Democrats can use Trump for 100.

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plansbandc  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:40:49am

Choosing Cohen to be his personal lawyer is a nice indicator of Trump’s good judgment.

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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:41:28am

re: #322 ObserverArt

If the GOP can use the Clintons for 35+ years, the Democrats can use Trump for 100.

Til the end of all time. When the Earth finally gets swallowed up by the Sun. And even then, they will speak of Trump in the same tones that Suetonius spoke of Caligula.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:43:44am

re: #322 ObserverArt

If the GOP can use the Clintons for 35+ years, the Democrats can use Trump for 100.

They’re still dumping on Carter….

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electrotek  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:46:41am

No Indian-Americans have shown any outrage over this brutal gang-rape:

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electrotek  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:48:20am

And of course Hindu fascists are either defending the rapists or coming up with absurd conspiracy theories like this:

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nines09  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:48:28am

Good day all. Traveling and just dropping this off. Great tune. Greater message. Good band.
Have a great day

Mt. Joy - Sheep [Official Music Video]

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fern01  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:50:51am

re: #221 Hecuba’s daughter

In the interview, Comey said he thought Trump was of above average intelligence. So maybe the comparisons to a real mob boss are accurate. Recall that L&O episode where a mob boss pretended to be demented so he could avoid trial. Maybe that is Trump’s shtick all along.

Trump is just not smart enough to play it sooooo dumb. Comey got so many things wrong - thinking trump is smart can be added to the list.

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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:52:36am

re: #325 Joe Bacon 🌹

Carter put his peanut farm in a blind trust.

Trump actively and knowingly self-deals in violation of the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:55:25am

re: #330 lawhawk

Carter put his peanut farm in a blind trust.

Trump actively and knowingly self-deals in violation of the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution.

His party could impeach and convict him on charges tomorrow if it had the political will to do so.

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:56:24am

re: #326 electrotek

No Indian-Americans have shown any outrage over this brutal gang-rape:

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That’s a broad statement and this feels like the same type of racist responsibility that white folks here put on minorities.
I don’t feel burdened to speak about and denounce every crime committed by a black person. YMMV

It’s like duh, of course I don’t condone crime X. Why would you think otherwise?

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:57:19am

re: #330 lawhawk

Carter put his peanut farm in a blind trust.

Trump actively and knowingly self-deals in violation of the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution.

I saw a headline today stating that Trump properties have received over $10,000,000 from GOP entities using/renting them alone since inauguration. I’ll have to look—maybe WaPo.

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fern01  Apr 16, 2018 • 8:59:10am

re: #234 JordanRules

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I cannot believe he hasn’t stepped down.

Deny Deny Deny - the Republican answer to anything

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:02:24am

re: #329 fern01

Trump is just not smart enough to play it sooooo dumb. Comey got so many things wrong - thinking trump is smart can be added to the list.

Seriously. I’m really shocked he thinks that dumbass is above average intelligence. Even before his communication abilities started to deteriorate he was the poster bro for mediocrity.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:03:23am

re: #335 JordanRules

Seriously. I’m really shocked he thinks that dumbass is above average intelligence. Even before his communication abilities started to deteriorate he was the poster bro for mediocrity.

he has an uncanny ability to manipulate the media…that is a form of intelligence that contributed to his electoral victory

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:08:44am

re: #336 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

he has an uncanny ability to manipulate the media…that is a form of intelligence that contributed to his electoral victory

The media was already primed for it via IOKIYAR, lack of ownersip and newsroom diversity, and their business model. All he had to do was stand up there and be a trash person flinging bullshit everywhere.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:09:41am

re: #337 JordanRules

The media was already primed for it via IOKIYAR, lack of ownersip and newsroom diversity, and their business model. All he had to do was stand up there and be a trash person flinging bullshit everywhere.

He understood what they wanted and gave it to them

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Stanley Sea  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:09:54am
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retired cynic  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:10:02am

OK, here is a Pretty Thing!

thisiscolossal.com

This involves making butterflies from electronic circuitry:

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fern01  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:12:36am

re: #289 JordanRules

SMH

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And there’s a collection of RW pundits. Robbie Mook looks alone
hks.harvard.edu

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Belafon  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:13:07am

re: #339 Stanley Sea

Will he go inside the courtroom today?

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fern01  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:13:28am

re: #292 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is he playing golf all week? Does he know it’s Monday?

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:13:32am

re: #338 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He understood what they wanted and gave it to them

It’s who he is. He can’t be anything else. It wasn’t strategic in my view.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:14:55am
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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:15:27am

re: #330 lawhawk

Carter put his peanut farm in a blind trust.

Trump actively and knowingly self-deals in violation of the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution.

he didnt know congress was gonna let him skate on everything
they sure laid down for all this

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:16:29am
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makeitstop  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:16:48am

Judge Wood better smack this down, and hard.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:18:09am

re: #348 makeitstop

This ain’t gonna last:
“Cohen disclosed Monday that he’s had 10 clients in his solo practice since 2017, including the president and GOP fundraiser Elliott Broidy, but the attorney declined to name eight other clients in response to a judge’s order.”

we don’t suppose any of those clients are gonna come forward voluntarily

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Belafon  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:20:16am

re: #348 makeitstop

Judge Wood better smack this down, and hard.

Barbie
Ken
Snake Eyes
Buzz
Iron Man
Optimus Prime
Leonardo
Stretch Armstrong

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makeitstop  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:28:22am

re: #349 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

we don’t suppose any of those clients are gonna come forward voluntarily

Would you? I’d think twice about it.

This guy is pretty much synonymous with ‘skirting the law’ at this point.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:30:42am

re: #345 Ace-o-aces

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He’s Putin’s plaything.

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William Lewis  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:32:26am

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹

Well, herding cats has been a feature of “the Left” as long as I’ve been alive.

As far as a “dictatorship of the proletariat,” I am not a fan of any form of dictatorship, no matter how benevolent it presents itself to be.

I’m the Democratic Socialist on my village board, and I sure don’t want to dictate anything. (I do want the village government to maintain full control of things like our water system and library and such.)

WTF are you talking about?

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wrenchwench  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:32:39am

I just had a guy in here who bought a bike 21 years ago at the shop I worked at before I opened my own. I remembered his name. He was impressed. He was apologetic about bringing his bike to have somebody else fix it, but he’s a man smart enough to know his limitations on the rare occasion when he reaches them. (The rear tire is flat, for possibly the first time in 21 years, and it has a weird cable-actuate hub brake that he didn’t want to mess with. This is a guy who cut his frame and welded it back together to make the steering less twitchy.) He also apologized for not remembering my name. No problem, it is weird that I remember his. The old memories still work, it’s the new ones that don’t.

He drove off in a truck older than I am. Looks like a 1956. I’m a ‘58.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:32:51am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:34:25am

re: #345 Ace-o-aces

He laundered money for the Russian mob. Can we just fucking start saying it already! He’s neck deep with the Russian mob. OK!?

The most recent series of “Fargo” involves a company that, like the Trumps, had to borrow a lot of money in 2008 when the banks weren’t loaning.

(spoiler stuff below if you haven’t seen it yet)

So they borrowed money from a Russian-connected firm, and now that the money is due, the bank does not even want the money back, they just want a piece of the operations in order to use the company to launder money for them…

sound familiar?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:36:25am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:36:38am

re: #355 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Scott Pruitt’s $43,000 soundproof phone booth violated spending laws, federal watchdog finds https://

Why not just use the Cone of Silence?

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:37:38am

re: #356 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The most recent series of “Fargo” involves a company that, like the Trumps, had to borrow a lot of money in 2008 when the banks weren’t loaning.

(spoiler stuff below if you haven’t seen it yet)

So they borrowed money from a Russian-connected firm, and now that the money is due, the bank does not even want the money back, they just want a piece of the operations in order to use the company to launder money for them…

sound familiar?

Not too different from the practices of vulture capital groups like Bain.

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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:41:31am
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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:42:45am
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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:42:49am

re: #355 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Scott Pruitt’s $43,000 soundproof phone booth violated spending laws, federal watchdog finds

i realize “due process” but they had to investigate to draw this conclusion?

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:45:04am

re: #187 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because who would want the world to find out that they’d had sex with their own grandmother?

“Wouldn’t want that to happen again” - Philip J. Fry

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:46:00am

re: #360 lawhawk

If you’re not willing to follow the law, then you should not have a role in making the law for everyone else

and yet that pesky constitution doesnt say anything like that at all

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:46:42am

re: #195 wheat-dogg

Then you might be accused of projection.

Astral projection

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:50:15am

re: #364 dangerman

and yet that peskly constitution doesnt say anything like that at all

I can understand the argument for losing one’s voting rights when incarcerated, but not necessarily for life

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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:50:52am

re: #360 lawhawk

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I forgot, Heritage your stance on Roy Moore and Kim Davis, thx.//

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:54:09am
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Stanley Sea  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:54:15am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:56:12am

re: #369 Stanley Sea

More than 90 American Muslims, nearly all of them Democrats and new to politics, are running for public office across the country this year,

I somehow cannot imagine a Muslim Republican winning a party primary…

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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:57:41am
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wrenchwench  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:57:53am

re: #370 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I somehow cannot imagine a Muslim Republican winning a party primary…

And yet, the idea must be embraced: ‘Trump can do it. I guess anybody can do it.’

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:58:05am

re: #366 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I can understand the argument for losing one’s voting rights when incarcerated, but not necessarily for life

if they are citizens, and are used politically - ie counted in the census and still required, if applicable, to pay taxes and file tax returns, then ive got mixed feelings

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plansbandc  Apr 16, 2018 • 9:58:14am

The replies are everything.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:00:21am

re: #330 lawhawk

Carter put his peanut farm in a blind trust.

Trump actively and knowingly self-deals in violation of the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution.

Yes and I remember when Republicans demanded repeated investigations about Carter doing that!

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:00:22am
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Belafon  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:01:50am

re: #368 JordanRules

An unprecedented wave of ________ are running for office across the country — angered by Trump, they’re ready to take the lead.

Muslims
Teachers
Women

And yay for all of them.

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wrenchwench  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:05:33am

re: #376 JordanRules

[Wisconsin AG…]

I read his name first as “Schlemiel”. I think I’m going with that.

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:07:02am

Fashion chutzpah too!

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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:07:05am

re: #376 JordanRules

My shocked face….

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makeitstop  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:08:37am

re: #374 plansbandc

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The replies are everything.

Pop’s got more integrity in his little finger than Trump will ever have.

Spurs fans need to deal with it.

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:08:39am

Leaning in to the herb vote!

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:09:58am

re: #377 Belafon

Muslims
Teachers
Women

And yay for all of them.

i was going to start with: lgbtq etc
then i figured i’d go right to: democrats

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makeitstop  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:11:19am
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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:11:30am

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:12:01am

re: #374 plansbandc

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The replies are everything.

Yeah well tough shit. And Pop unlike Trump is intelligent and a proven winner.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:12:38am

re: #381 makeitstop

Pop’s got more integrity in his little finger than Trump will ever have.

Spurs fans need to deal with it.

Pop is awesome. Best coach not named Auerbach in NBA history.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:13:16am

re: #384 makeitstop

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JFC this is basic history.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:13:50am

It’s raining hard in NYC, apparently (42nd Street & Bryant Park station, very much underground)

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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:14:09am

re: #370 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I somehow cannot imagine a Muslim Republican winning a party primary…

Not just Muslims but ones that have a “Muslim sounding name.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:14:17am

re: #372 wrenchwench

And yet, the idea must be embraced: ‘Trump can do it. I guess anybody can do it.’

I recall a time when I could admire Chris Christie for standing up to his nomination of a Muslim-American judge when other Republicans criticized him.

Yes, there were times when I would at least consider GOP candidates for various offices.

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:14:19am
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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:17:37am

re: #389 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Yup. From first hand experience, it was pouring quite heavily this morning during the rush.

In Hoboken, we had the usual flooding around the train terminal, where parts seemed more like part of the Hudson River than the streets.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:18:43am

re: #391 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recall a time when I could admire Chris Christie for standing up to his nomination of a Muslim-American judge when other Republicans criticized him.

Yes, there were times when I would at least consider GOP candidates for various offices.

Pretty low bar tbh. That said, I did appreciate Christie doing that even if he was awful.

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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:19:11am

re: #392 JordanRules

Herring Networks, Inc.

And they’re full metal wingnut territory.

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Teukka  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:19:28am

re: #389 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

It’s raining hard in NYC, apparently (42nd Street & Bryant Park station, very much underground)

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This was Tungelsta commuter station the other month…
Image: 2400029-650x.jpg

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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:23:33am

re: #396 Teukka

This was Tungelsta commuter station the other month…
Image: 2400029-650x.jpg

Where’s Jack and Rose?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:24:38am

re: #394 HappyWarrior

Pretty low bar tbh. That said, I did appreciate Christie doing that even if he was awful.

that and his cooperation with Obama on Sandy was admirable…but that was a long time ago

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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:24:57am

You know though, I can actually remember when Republicans courted Muslim voters because many Muslim voters have similar values to what the GOP professed.

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electrotek  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:25:31am

re: #399 HappyWarrior

You know though, I can actually remember when Republicans courted Muslim voters because many Muslim voters have similar values to what the GOP professed.

My parents voted Republican consistently from ‘88 until 2004.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:25:57am

re: #398 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that and his cooperation with Obama on Sandy was admirable…but that was a long time ago

Yes. Christie I will say this knows how to act like a human being even if he’s a jerk 99 time’s out of 100.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:27:20am

re: #400 electrotek

My parents voted Republican consistently from ‘88 until 2004.

A lot of my Muslim neighbors’ parents were like that too.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:28:32am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:29:52am

He was joking…

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Sir John Barron  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:31:59am

re: #297 lawhawk

FEC hit with lawsuit over ignoring civil complaint accusing Clinton, DNC in election scheme

Perfect Fox News tweet: a one-sentence word salad.

Oh by the way, “hi” everybody. I took vacation time last week and unplugged a bit. Hope everyone is well, or as good as can be expected.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:36:22am

re: #399 HappyWarrior

You know though, I can actually remember when Republicans courted Muslim voters because many Muslim voters have similar values to what the GOP professed.

And this is where the GOP is shooting itself in the foot: a lot of immigrants are socially conservative and believe in strong families and the American Dream. But for that, they also believe in the importance of good schools and solid community and civic institutions, all of which cost tax money, and that is where the GOP loses the thread, not to mention the skin color and “cultural” aspects.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:37:48am

re: #406 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And this is where the GOP is shooting itself in the foot: a lot of immigrants are socially conservative and believe in strong families and the American Dream. But for that, they also believe in the importance of good schools and solid community and civic institutions, all of which cost tax money, and that is where the GOP loses the thread, not to mention the skin color and “cultural” aspects.

I think they were on the right track but the Congressional GOP response to Bush showed the base didn’t want it. Xenophobia will ultimately kill the GOP imo.

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jaunte  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:39:50am
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jeffreyw  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:44:57am

This weather ain’t right.Imgur

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jaunte  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:45:03am

Try the Trinity Bay Shrimp, Scott Pruitt!

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makeitstop  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:48:08am

re: #408 jaunte

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I got a tenner that says Junior is one of them.

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:48:50am
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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:49:47am
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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:51:38am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:53:42am

re: #412 JordanRules

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Hmmm.

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wrenchwench  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:57:32am

re: #414 JordanRules

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I remember klys as being a little bigger than that….

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ObserverArt  Apr 16, 2018 • 10:59:33am

re: #414 JordanRules

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Cute video. Cute kid.

I feel sorry for her though. The Columbus Blue Jackets have taken the first two games in the first round of the Stanley Cup Playoffs…both in overtime at the Caps home ice.

She’ll grow up and forget all about it. But she will still have her puck.

Go Jackets!

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:00:52am

re: #417 ObserverArt

Cute video. Cute kid.

I feel sorry for her though. The Columbus Blue Jackets have taken the first two games in the first round of the Stanley Cup Playoffs…both in overtime at the Caps home ice.

She’ll grow up and forget all about it. But she will still have her puck.

Go Jackets!

It was cute at the end. I didn’t find the beginning cute.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:02:12am
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:02:29am

re: #376 JordanRules

Wisconsin AG admits Trump won state because of voter ID law@MotherJones reported last year law blocked thousands from polls & tipped state to Trumphttps://motherjones.com
11:21 AM - Apr 16, 2018
]

And what about Michigan and Pennsylvania? We have to overturn these laws to really regain power in the long run. You cannot win if your supporters are not allowed to vote.

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wrenchwench  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:04:32am

re: #410 jaunte

[A pit of toxic sludge along the San Jacinto…]

That’s one of those familiar names demanding a google, oh, yeah:

San Jacinto is a city in Riverside County, California. It was named after Saint Hyacinth and is located at the north end of the San Jacinto Valley, with Hemet to its south and Beaumont, California, to its north

Between Hemet and Beaumont, could be toxic too.

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ObserverArt  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:04:51am

re: #418 JordanRules

It was cute at the end. I didn’t find the beginning cute.

Like the video said, it appears dad was making sure all three kids got pucks.

But you are right, the puck was intended for her.

I’ve seen that happen where a baseball player will toss a ball into the stands meant for a kid and some idiot adult will reach over the child to get the ball.

Really? Can you possibly be any more of an asshole?

I unfortunately know the answer.

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:05:49am

re: #422 ObserverArt

Like the video said, it appears dad was making sure all three kids got pucks.

But you are right, the puck was intended for her.

I’ve seen that happen where a baseball player will toss a ball into the stands meant for a kid and some idiot adult will reach over the child to get the ball.

Really? Can you possibly be any more of an asshole?

I unfortunately know the answer.

Oh man, those baseball moments kill me. So many jackasses!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:13:32am

re: #423 JordanRules

Oh man, those baseball moments kill me. So many jackasses!

I’ve never gotten a ball in my years of attending games but I’d never do that to a kid.

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:16:10am
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plansbandc  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:16:38am

re: #423 JordanRules

Baseball skews conservative…

(It would be irresponsible not to speculate.)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:18:06am

re: #412 JordanRules

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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:18:11am

re: #426 plansbandc

Baseball skews conservative…

(It would be irresponsible not to speculate.)

Agh. But yes. Anyhow my team is owned by one of the few liberal owners and one of my favorite all time players is Clements.

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Kragar  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:18:13am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:18:20am

re: #426 plansbandc

Baseball skews conservative…

(It would be irresponsible not to speculate.)

my subjective impression is that professional sports in general tend to skew conservative. (that coming from a liberal elitist who really does not care a whit for pro sports)

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nicdanger  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:18:50am

re: #421 wrenchwench

That’s one of those familiar names demanding a google, oh, yeah:

Between Hemet and Beaumont, could be toxic too.

Yep,the Scientology “Gold Base” is located just north of San Jacinto,so…

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:19:11am
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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:19:30am

re: #429 Kragar

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Dayum!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:19:58am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:20:11am

re: #432 JordanRules

Michael Cohen has used his Trump Organization email address to conduct business with New York’s Taxi and Limousine Commission since at least 2009, according to documents obtained by the Forward. Cohen’s taxi business is reportedly being investigated.

feeling drained yet?

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makeitstop  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:20:33am

re: #433 JordanRules

Dayum!

It’s like the All-Star team of derp.

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plansbandc  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:22:19am

I’m liberal to the core and a ridiculously passionate sports fan. So, yeah, breaking the mold all day every day.

Just speculating how many of the grab the ball from the little kids people are Rs and how many are Ds. Would be an interesting study.

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wrenchwench  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:22:25am

re: #431 nicdanger

Yep,the Scientology “Gold Base” is located just north of San Jacinto,so…

Golden sludge, slightly less toxic.

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Kragar  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:23:06am

This morning: “These new sanctions show that Trump is getting tough on Russia…”

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:24:37am

re: #430 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

my subjective impression is that professional sports in general tend to skew conservative. (that coming from a liberal elitist Who really does not care a whit for pro sports)

Oh yes. Just listen to sports talk radio!
That said, there are a lot of sports fans who aren’t necessarily represented in the power spheres of the pro sports ecosystem.

Years ago I worked for what was, at the time, the only all black hosted sports radio show and it was in the south. Hoooo boy…the hate and threats we used to get.

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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:24:51am

Cohen has more lawyers than he has clients. Heh.

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ObserverArt  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:25:39am

re: #425 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

Dear Adidas,

You are missing a great opportunity with Colin Kaepernick if you don’t sign him period. He doesn’t need a team, he needs support.

And, should I remind you that you have your own issues with the FBI investigation into under-the-table payouts in college basketball.

Signing Kaepernick might help you clean up your name a bit too by doing something good by supporting all Black people.

Signed,

Me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:25:51am

re: #437 plansbandc

I’m liberal to the core and a ridiculously passionate sports fan. So, yeah, breaking the mold all day every day.

Just speculating how many of the grab the ball from the little kids people are Rs and how many are Ds. Would be an interesting study.

I recall one of the golden days of my childhood with my older brother who took me to a Cubs game in 1968, a double header against the Cardinals, which they swept. He caught a foul ball in the stands and let me keep it.

I made the mistake of showing it off to the kids in the neighborhood back in Gary.

Never saw it again…

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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:26:05am
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Ace-o-aces  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:27:22am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:28:53am

re: #440 JordanRules

Oh yes. Just listen to sports talk radio!
That said, there are a lot of sports fans who aren’t necessarily represented in the power spheres of the pro sports ecosystem.

[Embedded content]

Speaking of black sportswriters, I’m a big fan of Michael Wilbon’s. I miss him at the WaPo.

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jaunte  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:29:35am

re: #406 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And this is where the GOP is shooting itself in the foot: a lot of immigrants are socially conservative and believe in strong families and the American Dream. But for that, they also believe in the importance of good schools and solid community and civic institutions, all of which cost tax money, and that is where the GOP loses the thread, not to mention the skin color and “cultural” aspects.

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wrenchwench  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:30:03am

re: #441 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Cohen has more lawyers than he has clients. Heh.

It’s lawyers all the way down.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:30:12am

Of the four main team sports, NBA seems to lean the most liberal in my observations. I don’t know if too many prominent conservative NBAers. Barkley gets called conservative but I don’t think he is.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:31:17am

re: #439 Kragar

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:32:24am

re: #446 HappyWarrior

Speaking of black sportswriters, I’m a big fan of Michael Wilbon’s. I miss him at the WaPo.

Wilbon’s great! I was a big fan of Bill Rhoden too.

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jeffreyw  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:32:26am

D’oh!

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:32:40am

re: #429 Kragar

I don’t think I could put together a scuzzier twitter feed if I tried.

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ObserverArt  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:32:46am

re: #436 makeitstop

It’s like the All-Star team of derp.

And look who the derper is at the top of the list.

Shapiro should be absolutely upset with that. But he won’t be.

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freetoken  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:33:21am

re: #452 jeffreyw

Is he talking about his AG?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:34:50am

re: #451 JordanRules

Wilbon’s great! I was a big fan of Bill Rhoden too.

You’re a Steelers fan like me. It was really neat how the Steelers made Bill Nunn, Sr a scout back in the day and he helped find guys at the HBCs like Stallworth, Greenwood, & others. I really like PTI. Kornheiser can be a boob but he and Mike are good people.

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plansbandc  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:36:04am

re: #446 HappyWarrior

Black male representation in sports talk radio, at least national sports talk radio, has been steadily improving, but there’s a long way to go. There’s exactly one women with a national sports talk radio show. (Amy Lawrence). So yeah. It’s still mostly a white boys club.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:37:38am
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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:39:07am

re: #456 HappyWarrior

You’re a Steelers fan like me. It was really neat how the Steelers made Bill Nunn, Sr a scout back in the day and he helped find guys at the HBCs like Stallworth, Greenwood, & others. I really like PTI. Kornheiser can be a boob but he and Mike are good people.

Loved Bill Nunn Sr!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:39:19am

re: #458 Stanley Sea

Sometime after Haley’s comments on CBS, the Trump administration notified the Russian Embassy in Washington that the sanctions were not in fact coming, a Russian Foreign Ministry official

Humiliation comes with the job and continues even after your quit/are fired

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jeffreyw  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:41:00am

re: #455 freetoken

Is he talking about his AG?

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jaunte  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:42:47am

re: #455 freetoken

Is he talking about his AG?

The only mistake he’d admit would be choosing someone who was insufficiently loyal to him.

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:43:37am

re: #442 ObserverArt

Dear Adidas,

You are missing a great opportunity with Colin Kaepernick if you don’t sign him period. He doesn’t need a team, he needs support.

And, should I remind you that you have your own issues with the FBI investigation into under-the-table payouts in college basketball.

Signing Kaepernick might help you clean up your name a bit too by doing something good by supporting all Black people.

Signed,

Me.

plus im pretty sure they endorse other athletes who arent on “teams”

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:44:45am
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jaunte  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:45:20am

Worth a read:

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:45:25am

re: #463 dangerman

plus im pretty sure they endorse other athletes who arent on “teams”

And rappers and tastemakers have gotten shoe deals too.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:45:33am

re: #443 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recall one of the golden days of my childhood with my older brother who took me to a Cubs game in 1968, a double header against the Cardinals, which they swept. He caught a foul ball in the stands and let me keep it.

I made the mistake of showing it off to the kids in the neighborhood back in Gary.

Never saw it again…

I went to an Atlanta Braves game with my brother (12) and cousin (7); I was eight. We were right behind home plate. My brother caught TWO foul balls. After the game he gave a ball to each of us. I still have it in a storage box somewhere.

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:46:07am

re: #445 Ace-o-aces

Former FBI director James Comey calls Trump’s claim that his inauguration crowd was bigger than Obama’s “a lie”

in the context of trump i give comey credit for this

he calls a lie a lie.

so many others in media and otherwise dance around it euphemistically

he lies. he lied. simple.

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ObserverArt  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:46:17am

re: #452 jeffreyw

D’oh!

[Embedded content]

I really don’t know how anyone can work for Trump in any manner.

He dumps on people the minute he feels you are making him look bad when it is what he does that is making him look bad. You are there just to catch hell and then you are fired.

And everyone wonders why there are leaks. And why he uses non-disclosure agreements. He knows he is an asshole so he tries to control the truth about him.

There are going to be a ton of tell-all books coming out about Trump, none of them will be flattering in any way.

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:48:11am

re: #452 jeffreyw

D’oh!

Trump admits he made mistakes picking his Cabinet: “Not all of my choices were good”

let me help:

None of my choices were good”

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plansbandc  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:48:35am

re: #467 Barefoot Grin

I spilled beer all over myself avoiding a foul ball. Does that count? :D

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jaunte  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:49:16am

TAKE COVER!

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austin_blue  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:49:53am

re: #436 makeitstop

It’s like the All-Star team of derp.

More like a Murderer’s Row.

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freetoken  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:50:55am

… secret name climax in the court…

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wrenchwench  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:50:57am

re: #469 ObserverArt

I really don’t know how anyone can work for Trump in any manner.

He dumps on people the minute he feels you are making him look bad when it is what he does that is making him look bad. You are there just to catch hell and then you are fired.

And everyone wonders why there are leaks. And why he uses non-disclosure agreements. he knows he is an asshole so he tries to control the truth about him.

There are going to be a ton of tell-all books coming out about Trump, none of them will be flattering in any way.

He attempts to use loyalty as a weapon. He demands it, then accuses the same person of abandoning it when they do something he’d rather they didn’t.

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freetoken  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:51:26am

bingo:

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plansbandc  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:52:24am

re: #476 freetoken

But of course it is. hahahahaha!

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:53:32am

I saw these videos last night and was waiting on the story behind them.

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:53:50am

re: #476 freetoken

bingo:

“The client’s name is Sean Hannity”

i burst out before i could control it

i believe i just traumatized my cats

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:53:57am

re: #476 freetoken

bingo:

[Embedded content]

Oh shit!!!!!!!!

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jaunte  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:54:32am

re: #476 freetoken

‘Incestuous” just doesn’t quite cover it.

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freetoken  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:54:41am

re: #480 dangerman

re: #481 JordanRules

The meltdown on air ought to be a sight to behold.

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freetoken  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:55:04am

So, who had “Hannity” in the betting pool?

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jaunte  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:55:37am

Sean Omer Ta

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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:55:40am

re: #476 freetoken

Unfu…

NOPE. Totally fucking believable. Hannity, who spends every moment in the media shilling for Trump and spewing misinformation is up to his eyeballs in Trumpworld.

How do we get from there to here? Via Cohen? You don’t say. There’s a reason that Hannity gets louder and louder in attacking Mueller and the FBI and the ongoing investigations. He knew that his name was going to come out as being wrapped up in all this.

Now watch how Hannity wrap himself in the 1A to claim that he’s done nothing wrong and that he’s protected under the 1A.

Except that it’s not protection against a crime. That’s the 5A Sean.

He’s not protecting his journalistic sources.

Cohen’s not able to protect his conversations with Hannity if they’re engaging in crime or fraud (crime fraud exception).

Oh, and Hannity will now spin this as the Deep State trying to take him out. Yeah, and his misinformed viewers will buy that bullshit too.

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freetoken  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:56:19am

This will make a great made-for-TV movie.

Ought to run on the regular Fox network.

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makeitstop  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:56:59am

re: #476 freetoken

“The client’s name is Sean Hannity”

Welcome to the machine, Lumpy.

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:57:36am

re: #479 JordanRules

I saw these videos last night and was waiting on the story behind them.

[Embedded content]

“And she just knew those would be the magic words to get those women arrested.”

the kansas swat thing (Andrew Finch)
starbucks
this

they are weaponizing law enforcement

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Stanley Sea  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:57:41am

OMG

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ObserverArt  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:57:54am

re: #476 freetoken

bingo:

[Embedded content]

re: #477 plansbandc

But of course it is. hahahahaha!

re: #478 jeffreyw

Michael Cohen’s previously unnamed third client is SEAN HANNITY.

Nothing like a “journalist” being in the middle of a big story.

I know it won’t, but it would be great if this took Sean Hannity down.

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freetoken  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:58:53am

The question is, for what was Cohen representing Hannity?

Hmmm… I wonder how many women have been had to be paid off?

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:59:06am
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jaunte  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:59:42am

What did you fix for Hannity, Mr. Cohen?

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jaunte  Apr 16, 2018 • 11:59:58am
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makeitstop  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:00:22pm

re: #492 freetoken

The question is, for what was Cohen representing Hannity?

Hmmm… I wonder how many women have been had to be paid off?

I hadn’t even thought of that angle.

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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:00:43pm

Hannity! Really!?!?!

LOL, shocked to find that that thug bully is tied to another thug bully.

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dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:00:57pm

re: #480 dangerman

i burst out before i could control it

i believe i just traumatized my cats

yup
bruised myself falling off the chair

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wrenchwench  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:01:05pm

re: #489 dangerman

[…]

they are weaponizing law enforcement

Has been all along. It’s becoming more obvious..

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:01:39pm

re: #495 jaunte

Lemme guess……Hannity had a love child with his housekeeper.

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jaunte  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:01:54pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:02:31pm

re: #500 Dr Lizardo

Lemme guess……Hannity had a love child with his housekeeper.

I’m expecting that it’s about a dead boy, rather than a live girl. That’s the rumor I’m promoting anyway.

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jeffreyw  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:03:33pm
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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:03:40pm

re: #499 wrenchwench

Has been all along. It’s becoming more obvious..

QFT

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KGxvi  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:04:08pm

In related news: corn futures just shot up 4000000%.

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Kragar  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:04:42pm
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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:05:06pm

threaded that one… because the beauty of this is that Hannity isn’t some disinterested party here.

He’s up to his eyeballs and is surrounded by people under investigation. His lawyer is under investigation. His own communications are now suspect. There’s no 1A protection here.

Hannity has a 5A right he can assert.

Hannity’s not in the role of a journalist if he’s communicating with Cohen or Trump via Cohen about coordinating strategy, including smear campaign against Mueller, Comey, and FBI.

And we know that these dumbasses are dumb enough to commemorate that with recordings and the like…

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KGxvi  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:05:09pm

re: #502 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I’m expecting that it’s about a dead boy, rather than a live girl. That’s the rumor I’m promoting anyway.

The dead girl/live boy line needs to be updated for the 21st century. I do kind of like the idea of dead boy/live girl…

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jaunte  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:05:14pm
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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:05:28pm

re: #505 KGxvi

Pop pop pop…. POPCORN!

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Stanley Sea  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:06:00pm

re: #503 jeffreyw

From last year:Sean Hannity Denies Right-Wing Blogger’s Sex Harassment Claim

The circle of awful is complete. Fucking Debbie Schlussel.

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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:07:11pm

What client number is Eliot?

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BeachDem  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:07:45pm

re: #449 HappyWarrior

Of the four main team sports, NBA seems to lean the most liberal in my observations. I don’t know if too many prominent conservative NBAers. Barkley gets called conservative but I don’t think he is.

And, because the Boston Celtics are my number one love (and I noticed you praised Auerbach, so I guess there’s at least one Boston team that escapes the smack talk—heh)

The first black player drafted by an NBA team was Chuck Cooper, picked in the second round of the 1950 draft by the Boston Celtics, and in1966, Bill Russell became the first African American coach in North American professional sports when he took over the reins from Red Auerbach.

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jaunte  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:07:48pm

What sort of crazy animal sex will Tucker Carlson be talking about tonight?

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:07:53pm

re: #492 freetoken

The question is, for what was Cohen representing Hannity?

Hmmm… I wonder how many women have been had to be paid off?

If so:
“Hello, Mr. Kimmel? Sean would like to apologize before you go on the air tonight…”

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freetoken  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:08:09pm

This is supposed be Hannity’s live show, but it is only playing music:

iheart.com

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makeitstop  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:08:22pm

re: #503 jeffreyw

From last year:Sean Hannity Denies Right-Wing Blogger’s Sex Harassment Claim

Schussel?

Not gonna lie, I just threw up in my mouth. The thought of two of the most repulsive humans in existence…ugh….I fucking can’t

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b.d. (Untruthful Slime Ball)  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:08:40pm

re: #514 jaunte

What sort of crazy animal sex will Tucker Carlson be talking about tonight?

He won’t talk about Hannity at all.

//

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BeachDem  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:08:52pm

re: #450 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

Haley might as well go home, since no one will give a rats-ass about anything she says from here on.

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:09:32pm
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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:09:46pm

My timeline is hilariously on fire right now!!!!!!!!!

I’ve never seen one name typed so many times, so quickly.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:09:53pm
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jaunte  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:10:45pm
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jaunte  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:11:40pm

So many Hannity quotes.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:11:43pm
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freetoken  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:11:57pm

Hannity finally talking live…

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ObserverArt  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:11:59pm

re: #499 wrenchwench

Has been all along. It’s becoming more obvious..

Police are meant to protect White people. That has always been obvious to many people. What is new is they aren’t doing anything to even try to hide the fact. If anything they are doing everything to make that clear…again, in case anyone of color forgot.

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Kragar  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:12:21pm
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allegro  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:12:27pm

So Hannity is suddenly going on vacation starting tonight?

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KGxvi  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:12:53pm

Let’s just take a moment to appreciate what has happened in the last year at Fox News:

1. Bill O’Reilly has been fired because sponsors bailed on his show when it came out that he is a serial sexual harasser who has had to pay millions of dollars to women for said sexual harassment.

2. His replacement, Laura Ingraham, is about to lose her show because sponsors are bailing on it because she made fun of a 17/18 year old high school student (who survived a mass shooting at his high school) because he didn’t get into the college(s) high on his wishlist.

3. Sean Hannity, who has spent more time sniff and promoting Trump’s jock strap, has been identified as one of three clients for Michael Cohen - an “attorney” or lawyer-ajace - whose only apparent legal work is writing non-disclosure agreements for wealth/famous men when they have been accused of sexual misconduct.

If we are in a simulation, we’ve reached the point where the entity playing the simulation got bored and is now just fucking around to see what chaos it can create (I know this feeling from having played the old versions of Sim City and Civilization 3 & 4)

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wrenchwench  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:13:03pm

re: #521 JordanRules

My timeline is hilariously on fire right now!!!!!!!!!

I’ve never seen one name typed so many times, so quickly.

Is your twitter handle public information? It’s not part of your lizardly available info.

532
makeitstop  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:13:13pm

You’re fucking toast, Lumpy. Clean out your desk.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:13:25pm
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freetoken  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:13:29pm

“I’ll decide [whether] to put out a statement”…

And he goes back to playing outtakes from the Comey interview.

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:15:29pm

re: #534 freetoken

“I’ll decide [whether] to put out a statement”…

And he goes back to playing outtakes from the Comey interview.

Thanks for listening!

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Kragar  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:15:32pm
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KGxvi  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:16:05pm

re: #536 Kragar

THE CALL IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE BUILDING!!!!

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freetoken  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:16:09pm

re: #535 JordanRules

Thanks for listening!

He’s only playing the part about Clinton’s emails.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:17:16pm
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:18:17pm

re: #539 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

If Lumpy was smart, the next words out of his mouth would be his retirement announcement.

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freetoken  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:18:34pm

Hannity just wants to work up his marks about EMAILS!

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gocart mozart  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:18:48pm
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KGxvi  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:18:58pm

re: #540 Dr Lizardo

If Lumpy was smart, the next words out of his mouth would be his retirement announcement.

Well then, we know what won’t be the next words out of his mouth…

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:19:02pm

re: #531 wrenchwench

Is your twitter handle public information? It’s not part of your lizardly available info.

It isn’t yet, but I’ve been here long enough now to finally integrate it AND load an avi. My days as a green football are numbered!
Just haven’t poked around the site to finally get it done.

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freetoken  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:19:06pm

Hannity going on and on as if he knows anything about the law…

546
HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:19:39pm

Hannity? Now that would explain the devotion to Trump.

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:20:01pm

re: #517 makeitstop

Schussel?

Not gonna lie, I just threw up in my mouth. The thought of two of the most repulsive humans in existence…ugh….I fucking can’t

Not to defend Hannity, but Schussel is bonafide delusional. Even the little floor-shitter want’s nothing to do with her.

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freetoken  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:20:09pm

Can’t take Hannity anymore… he’s going on about the server-in-the-closet thing.

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wrenchwench  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:20:40pm

re: #544 JordanRules

It isn’t yet, but I’ve been here long enough now to finally integrate it AND load an avi. My days as a green football are numbered!
Just haven’t poked around the site to finally get it done.

Somebody wrote a long-out-of-date manual on how to do all that shit stuff…

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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:20:52pm
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makeitstop  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:20:53pm

re: #540 Dr Lizardo

If Lumpy was smart, the next words out of his mouth would be his retirement announcement.

And then he better go hire a real lawyer. He’s gonna need one.

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Kragar  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:20:57pm
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Ace-o-aces  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:20:57pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:24:07pm

re: #552 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Lumpy became Alex Jones basically. Sounds legit.

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austin_blue  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:24:16pm

Lumpy, Lumpy, Lumpy….

what a maroon.

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KGxvi  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:24:21pm

re: #552 Kragar

*removes glasses, rubs that spot on nose where glasses sit, rubs eyes with both palms, clears throat…

NO

*puts glasses back on

557
KGxvi  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:24:51pm

re: #555 austin_blue

Lumpy, Lumpy, Lumpy….

what a maroon.

What A Maroon!

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Archangelus  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:25:03pm
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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:25:03pm
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JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:25:26pm

re: #558 Archangelus

[Embedded content]

It’s a feast!!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:26:11pm
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jaunte  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:26:21pm

re: #558 Archangelus

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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:26:34pm

re: #539 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Hannity is probably shitting a brick because all hell is about to come down on him, both inside and outside Fox News.

Hannity’s days at Fox may be numbered thanks to his dumbfuckery and thinking he could get away not mentioning the fact that his lawyer is none other than Cohen - the same guy repping both Trump and Broidy.

Hannity should consider getting himself another attorney (his own attorney has already taken that route).

Attorneys all the way down, mostly because this corrupt cabal of cronies thought they could get away with fleecing America while deflecting attention to their go-to Macguffin: Clinton.

564
BeachDem  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:26:41pm

re: #521 JordanRules

My timeline is hilariously on fire right now!!!!!!!!!

I’ve never seen one name typed so many times, so quickly.

Worldwide trends
Sean Hannity
75.8K Tweets

565
Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:27:03pm
566
dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:27:20pm

im never gonna get any work done during this administration am i?

567
Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:27:29pm

re: #510 lawhawk

Pop pop pop…. POPCORN!

All the Jiffy Pop in the country just exploded!

568
JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:27:30pm

re: #549 wrenchwench

Somebody wrote a long-out-of-date manual on how to do all that shit stuff…

And right after I signed up I was geeking out about the awesome User’s Guides! I knew this was the site for me!

569
jaunte  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:27:58pm
570
dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:29:32pm

re: #563 lawhawk

Hannity is probably shitting a brick because all hell is about to come down on him, both inside and outside Fox News.

Hannity’s days at Fox may be numbered thanks to his dumbfuckery and thinking he could get away not mentioning the fact that his lawyer is none other than Cohen - the same guy repping both Trump and Broidy.

Hannity should consider getting himself another attorney (his own attorney has already taken that route).

Attorneys all the way down, mostly because this corrupt cabal of cronies thought they could get away with fleecing America while deflecting attention to their go-to Macguffin: Clinton.

imagine hannity’s downfall at fox, fox, is because of a journalistic ethical violation

571
KGxvi  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:29:54pm

Headline at foxnews website:

Stripper storms courthouse as Trump lawyer fights feds over ‘unprecedented’ evidence seizure

TwoTHREE thoughts…

1. It was a public hearing, anyone could go to it, that’s why there’s a gallery
2. She’s a retired adult film star and now a director/producer, not a stripper (and even if she was, there’s nothing wrong with that)
3. The quote marks on “unprecedented” makes it feel like not even Fox believes Cohen

572
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:30:03pm
573
makeitstop  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:30:13pm

re: #569 jaunte

Folks, let’s pause and hear what Hannity has to say. It’s quite likely that Hannity is himself the victim and the Left Wing media is to blame for this.

Yeah, let’s not. Fuck this guy.

574
jaunte  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:30:33pm

re: #573 makeitstop

/////

575
KGxvi  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:31:09pm

re: #563 lawhawk

Hannity is probably shitting a brick because all hell is about to come down on him, both inside and outside Fox News.

Hannity’s days at Fox may be numbered thanks to his dumbfuckery and thinking he could get away not mentioning the fact that his lawyer is none other than Cohen - the same guy repping both Trump and Broidy.

Hannity should consider getting himself another attorney (his own attorney has already taken that route).

Attorneys all the way down, mostly because this corrupt cabal of cronies thought they could get away with fleecing America while deflecting attention to their go-to Macguffin: Clinton.

Again, it’s worth reminding non-lawyers that when your lawyer gets a lawyer because of you, you’re probably completely fucked.

576
dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:31:33pm

re: #569 jaunte

Folks, let’s pause and hear what Hannity has to say. It’s quite likely that Hannity is himself the victim and the Left Wing media is to blame for this.

cohen represents victims?

or are you saying hannity received a payoff like daniels, faciliated by cohen
and for simliar reasons as daniels?

577
Eventual Carrion  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:32:03pm

re: #358 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Why not just use the Cone of Silence?

What I think of every time I hear that stupid booth mentioned.

“Comeon chief let’s use it! Please! Please!”

578
Kragar  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:32:21pm

re: #572 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I think she was being sarcastic

579
The Vicious Babushka  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:32:28pm

re: #454 ObserverArt

And look who the derper is at the top of the list.

Shapiro should be absolutely upset with that. But he won’t be.

580
lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:33:02pm
581
dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:33:37pm

re: #571 KGxvi

Headline at foxnews website:

TwoTHREE thoughts…

1. It was a public hearing, anyone could go to it, that’s why there’s a gallery
2. She’s a retired adult film star and now a director/producer, not a stripper (and even if she was, there’s nothing wrong with that)
3. The quote marks on “unprecedented” makes it feel like not even Fox believes Cohen

as to #2, she is doing that “make america horny again” tour and does perform on stage at strip clubs…

582
ObserverArt  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:34:08pm

re: #569 jaunte

Elizabeth 🌎 Picciuto ✔
@epicciuto
Folks, let’s pause and hear what Hannity has to say. It’s quite likely that Hannity is himself the victim and the Left Wing media is to blame for this.

3:25 PM - Apr 16, 2018

Oh my.

This poor person is an example of how Fox News takes away all forms of human reasoning. Her first reaction: Blame Left Wing Media.

583
goddamnedfrank  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:34:14pm

Different Michael Cohen but still funny.

584
KGxvi  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:34:29pm

re: #580 lawhawk

Yeah, not even the off-shore/online bookies want to touch those betting odds.

But I’m guessing that the first one would be somewhere around -100,000 and the second would be -150,000

585
KGxvi  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:35:14pm

re: #581 dangerman

as to #2, she is doing that “make america horny again” tour and does perform on stage at strip clubs…

Learn something new every day.

586
jaunte  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:35:20pm

re: #582 ObserverArt

Please everyone, look at her timeline and understand it’s sarcasm.

587
Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:35:24pm

I remember when “Raiders Of The Lost Ark” came out - the nonstop action, for the whole length of the movie was just mindboggling. I don’t remember any movie like it before, one action scene with harrowing escape after another for two hours!

This Cohen/Hannity thing made me think of that. This whole Presidency has been like that. Or maybe like one of those Popeil ads - “What would you say to that? Don’t answer yet, because THERE’S MORE!!!!”

588
KGxvi  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:35:27pm

re: #582 ObserverArt

Oh my.

This poor person is an example of how Fox News takes away all forms of human reasoning. Her first reaction: Blame Left Wing Media.

I thought that was snark.

589
Belafon  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:35:34pm

re: #572 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I think it was sarcasm, beating Hannity to his own statement.

590
dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:35:57pm

re: #566 dangerman

im never gonna get any work done during this administration am i?

and….

they’re not even gonna make it look like they’re trying to pass any legislation either, right?

591
jaunte  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:36:25pm
592
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:36:29pm
593
ObserverArt  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:36:54pm

re: #578 Kragar

I think she was being sarcastic

I hope…but it is a believable reaction by a true Fox News consumer.

594
HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:37:00pm

re: #582 ObserverArt

Oh my.

This poor person is an example of how Fox News takes away all forms of human reasoning. Her first reaction: Blame Left Wing Media.

I read that as sarcasm.

595
dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:37:11pm

re: #585 KGxvi

Learn something new every day.

heard it from a friend //

596
KGxvi  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:37:39pm

re: #592 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Well, from their perspective, that’s definitely a high light, everything else is more of a low light.

597
HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:37:53pm

re: #593 ObserverArt

I hope…but it is a believable reaction by a true Fox News consumer.

True. Poe’s Law.

598
electrotek  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:37:55pm

re: #579 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

So radical rhetoric inspires radical action.

Who would have thought?

As if Breivik’s manifesto wasn’t enough to prove that.

599
lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:37:56pm

re: #584 KGxvi

Seemingly every major white shoe law firm has offices within a square mile of Fox News hq in midtown.

He could have walked down the block and found law firms that specialize in entertainers/journalists and reputation-related issues.

He picked Cohen.

600
JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:38:25pm

re: #580 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

If it’s not sexual abuse or harrassment what else could it be do ya think?

I only say this because Yashar has consistently said, no matter how much of a hack he was, the word on the street is that he’s not that. And that type of insider info is Yashar’s lane. Of course he still could be but I do wonder what else could be in play.

601
makeitstop  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:40:16pm

re: #600 JordanRules

If it’s not sexual abuse or harrassment what else could it be do ya think?

I only say this because Yashar has consistently said, no matter how much of a hack he was, the word on the street is that he’s not that. And that type of insider info is Yashar’s lane. Of course he still could be but I do wonder what else could be in play.

I’ll guess something to do with Russia.

602
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:41:06pm
603
makeitstop  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:41:24pm

None of my Twitter go-tos has mentioned the Lumpy thing yet.

They must be busy picking their jaws up off the floor.

604
JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:41:56pm

re: #601 makeitstop

I’ll guess something to do with Russia.

Yep. My mind went there too.

Wonder what his taxes look like.

605
HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:42:04pm

I definitely think Hannity has something lurking and it’s not just his love for Trump.

606
ObserverArt  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:42:20pm

re: #586 jaunte

Please everyone, look at her timeline and understand it’s sarcasm.

It’s a great joke because it is believable.

But keep in mind some of us are just reacting to what we see in a post and don’t have the time to go through a timeline.

607
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:42:21pm

re: #579 The Vicious Babushka

608
jaunte  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:42:36pm
609
Dr Lizardo  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:42:41pm

re: #601 makeitstop

I’ll guess something to do with Russia.

If the claim is true that he was never involved with any third party concerns but was asking for legal advice, I’d bet Lumpy was trying to figure out how legal - or illegal - his cooperation with Assange was.

610
lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:43:15pm

re: #600 JordanRules

If it isn’t sex harassment/abuse, then my guess was that Hannity was using Cohen to pass info back and forth to Trump, and then hoping to use attorney client privilege to protect the conversation - all while ignoring that conspiracy against the US and other criminal acts are not protected by attorney client privilege.

Coordinating attacks on Mueller with the Admin is a possibility and puts Hannity and Fox in legal jeopardy. That adds to the obstruction of justice case against Trump and expands who else would be involved.

And you can bet that Fox has better attorneys than Hannity.

611
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:43:21pm

It’s Monday in ‘Merica

612
Kragar  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:43:36pm
613
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:43:42pm
614
Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:43:49pm

re: #603 makeitstop

None of my Twitter go-tos has mentioned the Lumpy thing yet.

They must be busy picking their jaws up off the floor.

I checked Rick Wilson’s feed, figuring he’d be on fire about now. Nothing in hours. Mebbe he’s asleep….

615
ObserverArt  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:44:12pm

re: #594 HappyWarrior

I read that as sarcasm.

How many reminders do I need?

I’m sorry.

616
Belafon  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:44:14pm

re: #593 ObserverArt

I hope…but it is a believable reaction by a true Fox News consumer.

The give away was the first part: “Let’s wait.” No winger would wait.

617
jaunte  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:46:00pm
618
HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:46:07pm

re: #615 ObserverArt

How many reminders do I need?

I’m sorry.

Sorry. Didn’t see the others.

619
Ace-o-aces  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:47:18pm

re: #570 dangerman

imagine hannity’s downfall at fox, fox, is because of a journalistic ethical violation

Somewhere in the sub-sub-basement of FoxNews HQ, in a small, dingy office, the sole member of the ethics department slumbers. The phone rings. He awakens, and slowly rises from his chair and walks over to the desk and picks up the handset. As he raises it to his ear he thinks, “At last. My time has come”……..

620
gocart mozart  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:47:19pm
621
ObserverArt  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:48:41pm

re: #618 HappyWarrior

Sorry. Didn’t see the others.

No problem…it is the speed of the internet and everyone posting the same thing. It happens with tweets all the time.

622
lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:48:42pm

re: #620 gocart mozart

Smell test.

I’d wait for confirmation. Because that reeks of confirmation bias.

623
Belafon  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:49:39pm

Hannity is that two kaiju event we’ve all been waiting for.

624
ObserverArt  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:50:28pm

Is there any chance Hannity’s name is on the list as just another name to give Cohen more clients to make him a “real” lawyer?

625
jaunte  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:51:31pm
626
goddamnedfrank  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:52:18pm

re: #501 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Hannity “fights MMA” in exactly the same way that I speak French.

627
KGxvi  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:52:24pm

re: #624 ObserverArt

Is there any chance Hannity’s name is on the list as just another name to give Cohen more clients to make him a “real” lawyer?

Yes, because one things judges really like is when people perpetrate a fraud on the courts.

628
JordanRules  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:52:54pm

re: #622 lawhawk

Smell test.

I’d wait for confirmation. Because that reeks of confirmation bias.

I don’t trust Schindler.

629
lawhawk  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:52:54pm

re: #623 Belafon

630
BeachDem  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:52:57pm

re: #581 dangerman

as to #2, she is doing that “make america horny again” tour and does perform on stage at strip clubs…

And that tour began in oh so holy South Carolina. Heh.

631
Ace-o-aces  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:53:06pm
632
goddamnedfrank  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:53:14pm

re: #627 KGxvi

Yes, because one things judges really like is when people perpetrate a fraud on the courts.

To be fair that seems to be Cohen’s specialty.

633
ObserverArt  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:54:06pm

re: #627 KGxvi

Yes, because one things judges really like is when people perpetrate a fraud on the courts.

Well, it is fraud all the way around is it not?

And I can see Sean helping a brother out since he has carried his water to this point.

634
KGxvi  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:55:11pm

re: #631 Ace-o-aces

Also, legally, it doesn’t matter if the client pays you or not, when deciding whether the attorney-client relationship formed. Technically, it could form, for limited purposes through nothing more than a ten minute case review and consultation.

635
dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:57:44pm

re: #618 HappyWarrior

Sorry. Didn’t see the others.

sure are a lot of sorry excuses around here today

636
sagehen  Apr 16, 2018 • 12:57:51pm

re: #582 ObserverArt

Oh my.

This poor person is an example of how Fox News takes away all forms of human reasoning. Her first reaction: Blame Left Wing Media.

No.

This poor person is an example of why Twitter desperately needs a sarcasm emoji.

637
dangerman  Apr 16, 2018 • 1:00:19pm

re: #625 jaunte

Hannity is currently talking about “journalism being dead” on the radio

hannitys not a journalist as per………….hannity

re: #583 goddamnedfrank

638
HappyWarrior  Apr 16, 2018 • 1:01:04pm

re: #621 ObserverArt

No problem…it is the speed of the internet and everyone posting the same thing. It happens with tweets all the time.

Yep. We’s Good.

639
Jay C  Apr 16, 2018 • 1:22:47pm

re: #401 HappyWarrior

Yes. Christie I will say this knows how to act like a human being even if he’s a jerk 99 time’s out of 100.

Still a better percentage than Trump….


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