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PhillyPretzel  Apr 21, 2018 • 10:52:55am

Do what I say not what I do.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 21, 2018 • 10:56:32am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 10:57:23am

re: #2 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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The whole family is crooked af.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 10:57:57am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 10:58:54am
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 21, 2018 • 10:59:03am

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is cool and cute too.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:00:14am

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

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From what I understand, the sitting POTUS doesn’t attend a First Lady’s funeral but he could you know actually try to act dignified for once.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:01:25am

re: #7 HappyWarrior

From what I understand, the sitting POTUS doesn’t attend a First Lady’s funeral but he could you know actually try to act dignified for once.

He could try, but he’d fail spectacularly.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:01:40am

re: #7 HappyWarrior

Yes he could but all of us know he will continue to be himself.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:01:45am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:02:05am

re: #8 Eclectic Cyborg

He could try, but he’d fail spectacularly.

he did

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:03:03am

splcenter.org
Behold, the infighting within the alt right racist assholes.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:04:40am

re: #12 HappyWarrior

I think WaPo had a similar article. I read it this morning when I was on the train.

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jeffreyw  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:05:14am

Imgur

Mmm… sloppy joes

Imgur


Lunch is served!

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electrotek  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:06:39am

Repost from downstairs:

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:08:37am

re: #13 PhillyPretzel

I think WaPo had a similar article. I read it this morning when I was on the train.

Yeah, there’s some class differences within the movement. Apparently Spencer’s seen as a classist asshole and little rich boy. I mean that’s the least of his problems really.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:09:10am

re: #12 HappyWarrior

splcenter.org
Behold, the infighting within the alt right racist assholes.

Whoever wins, we lose.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:09:53am

Dodged those bullets.

losangeles.cbslocal.com
Irvine Man Charged With Anti-Semitic Hate Crimes After Being Turned In By Family Member

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Jay C  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:10:19am

re: #17 Eclectic Cyborg

r

e: #12 HappyWarrior

splcenter.org
Behold, the infighting within the alt right racist assholes.

Whoever wins, we lose.

But OTOH, whoever loses, we win!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:11:03am

re: #19 Jay C

r

But OTOH, whoever loses, we win!

I just wish they’d go the fuck away. Fucking miserable buggers.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:11:16am

The WaPo article was called, “Is the alt-right imploding?”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:11:55am

re: #21 PhillyPretzel

The WaPo article was called, Is the alt-right imploding?

I think I read that one too.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:13:54am

I felt I had to hide someones reply to this
Open at you’re own risk

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KGxvi  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:16:24am

This makes absolutely no sense

What?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:17:34am

re: #24 KGxvi

This makes absolutely no sense

What?

THE CLINTONS ARE CRIMINALS but I’m going to have this guy who pled guilty to lying to the FBI campaign for me.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:20:48am

re: #24 KGxvi

Trump and Company never make any sense.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:21:10am
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Dr. Matt  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:32:33am
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:36:04am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:38:29am

re: #29 goddamnedfrank

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He doesn’t help at all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:40:10am
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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:40:15am

re: #29 goddamnedfrank

We may have stopped it here, but it’s out there, and there are people scared of the story.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:47:52am

Newnan hashtag activity

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Charles Johnson  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:52:04am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:52:27am

re: #33 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

This country is losing its fucking mind.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:55:07am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 11:56:39am

going to make some of this today:
Baked Avocado Fries

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:00:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:00:31pm

re: #35 Eclectic Cyborg

This country is losing its fucking mind.

It is.

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:01:24pm

re: #35 Eclectic Cyborg

The 1960s would like a word with you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:03:43pm

good grief

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:05:22pm
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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:06:00pm

We’re entering the era where whites are going to lose their privileged status. And some of us whtes are going to fight tooth and nail against it. And, because whites have been in power for so long, they have control of the very institutions that need to be changed. But change will come.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:07:35pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

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I’m familiar with the story. Johnson should get a posthumous pardon but uh shouldn’t be busy with other things?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:10:28pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

I’m familiar with the story. Johnson should get a posthumous pardon but uh shouldn’t be busy with other things?

It’s an uber-pandering deflection/distraction.
And, of course, it’s all about the yam, not Johnson.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:11:11pm

Fucking Trump. This fucking guy.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:11:13pm

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

going to make some of this today:
Baked Avocado Fries

How will you afford your retirement?

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:11:57pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

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While you’re at it, Trump, can you pardon all those meaningless drug convictions.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:13:52pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

I’m familiar with the story. Johnson should get a posthumous pardon but uh shouldn’t be busy with other things?

Posthumous pardons are feel good fuckshit. They don’t actually right any wrong and are only designed to absolve society of deserved guilt. In this case it’s even worse because the pardon is a passive aggressive whitewash of continuing institutional racism and racist police brutality.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:15:38pm

re: #47 Barefoot Grin

How will you afford your retirement?

Lots of beans…

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Charles Johnson  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:16:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:16:31pm

re: #49 goddamnedfrank

Posthumous pardons are feel good fuckshit. They don’t actually right any wrong and are only designed to absolve society of deserved guilt. In this case it’s even worse because the pardon is a passive aggressive whitewash of continuing institutional racism and racist police brutality.

Absolutely.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:16:39pm

and…he is rattled and rambling incoherently:

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:16:50pm

re: #48 Belafon

While you’re at it, Trump, can you pardon all those meaningless drug convictions.

That’s what he should be doing.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:17:52pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

and…he is rattled and rambling incoherently:

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Your pal Putin was sued too Dumbass. And you don’t get to complain when you claimed there was voter fraud with no proof.

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:20:38pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

Translation: We’re the ones who are going to accrue the rewards and power when the race war starts! Not you!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:20:44pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:26:24pm

re: #57 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sad. My mom was born and raised a few miles south of Newnan and some of my cousins from smaller towns went to Newnan for high school.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:26:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:27:50pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:32:50pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

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I vote we rename it to: Trumpfish.

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Big Beautiful Door  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:34:16pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

splcenter.org
Behold, the infighting within the alt right racist assholes.

The comments are … interesting.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:38:48pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:43:45pm
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MsJ  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:45:05pm

re: #62 Big Beautiful Door

The comments are … interesting.

It looks like the Stormfront crowd are squatting in the comment section of SPL.

Odd comments.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:45:41pm

re: #63 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Coup d’etat attempt? Terrorist incident?

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:46:06pm

re: #64 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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OK. That answers that question.

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freetoken  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:47:59pm

re: #67 Dr Lizardo

OK. That answers that question.

Well, it’s what they want you to believe.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:48:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:53:57pm

re: #69 Charles Johnson

Apparently he believes that any declassification needs to be approved by HIM, because HE is the government.
Guessing nobody told him that’s not how it works.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:55:16pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

And if someone told him it would not matter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:55:55pm

film history trivia:

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 12:59:58pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

film history trivia:

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Not to nitpick but this is actually wrong. The guy who played Sam was American but definitely a good point because between Bergman, Heinreid, Lorre, & others, lot of immigrants in that cast.

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electrotek  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:01:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:03:38pm

re: #74 electrotek

Fucking Fox News, really?

How long will I be allowed to remain a Christian?

Gotta pander to the Christians are the real victims crowd even though the majority of the country remains Christian. Sigh. I don’t want to hear right wingers accuse the left of playing the victim when they do shit like that.

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electrotek  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:04:14pm

re: #75 HappyWarrior

Gotta pander to the Christians are the real victims crowd even though the majority of the country remains Christian. Sigh. I don’t want to hear right wingers accuse the left of playing the victim when they do shit like that.

So tired of them pretending they care about Middle Eastern Christians and Christians from other Muslim countries.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:06:00pm

re: #76 electrotek

So tired of them pretending they care about Middle Eastern Christians and Christians from other Muslim countries.

They don’t. They only care about white conservative Christians.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:15:51pm

Can’t forget that the Christian Right in this country were staunch defenders of Apartheid.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:18:28pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

The layman’s version of the IgNobel prize asking that very question: “Are cats are liquid?”

A liquid is traditionally defined as a material that adapts its shape to fit a container. Yet under certain conditions, cats seem to fit this definition.

This somewhat paradoxical observation emerged on the web a few years ago and joined the long list of internet memes involving our feline friends. When I first saw this question it made me laugh, and then think. I decided to reformulate it to illustrate some problems at the heart of rheology, the study of the deformations and flows of matter. My study on the rheology of cats won the 2017 Ig Nobel Prize in Physics.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:18:52pm

jeebus…he is totally unleashed today:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:19:10pm

well crap

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The Major  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:19:50pm

re: #81 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Video unavailable….

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:21:05pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus…he is totally unleashed today:

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Maybe if you didn’t have a habit of giving people you work with stupid nicknames, we might believe you but you have no credibility at all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:21:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:23:26pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fucking pathetic mad man just needs to resign retroactively to January 20th, 2017 and everyone he appointed needs to resign immediately. I know it won’t happen but a man can dream.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:24:31pm
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electrotek  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:25:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:25:51pm

re: #87 electrotek

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Aww. RIP Mini-Me.

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NetworkKed  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:30:39pm

(Note that I long ago blocked trump Twitter so this is not just unreasonable speculation, but at second and third hand.)

Are we sure Trump isn’t hitting the sauce this afternoon?

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petesh  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:35:39pm

re: #89 NetworkKed

(Note that I long ago blocked trump Twitter so this is not just unreasonable speculation, but at second and third hand.)

Are we sure Trump isn’t hitting the sauce this afternoon?

The sauce, probably not; everyone seems to agree his avoidance of alcohol is genuine. But feel-good prescription drugs? In combination or excess?

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TedStriker  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:36:14pm

re: #88 HappyWarrior

Aww. RIP Mini-Me.

Mini-Me: (writing) Are you sure you don’t have a little clone in you?
Foxxy Cleopatra: Yes, I’m sure.
Mini-Me: (writing) Would you like to?

Troyer’s silent mugging after that bit made it funny to me.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:36:26pm

re: #87 electrotek

Looks like he killed himself with booze. We freak out over opiates, which are dangerous and addictive, but so is alcohol. Several people in my life have damaged themselves with drug abuse. In every case, that drug was alcohol.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:37:16pm

re: #91 TedStriker

Mini-Me: (writing) Are you sure you don’t have a little clone in you?
Foxxy Cleopatra: Yes, I’m sure.
Mini-Me: (writing) Would you like to?

I really enjoyed that series. So much fun.

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TedStriker  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:39:07pm

re: #94 Belafon

Fixed

QFT

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Charles Johnson  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:41:04pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:41:53pm

re: #74 electrotek

Fucking Fox News, really?

How long will I be allowed to remain a Christian?

The only Christians FAUX supports are those who wear bedsheets with hoods and burn crosses.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:42:57pm

re: #94 Belafon

Fixed

Right on.

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gwangung  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:43:07pm

re: #74 electrotek

Fucking Fox News, really?

How long will I be allowed to remain a Christian?

Until Christ comes back.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:43:28pm
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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:44:17pm

re: #99 gwangung

Until Christ comes back.

April 23rd.

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TedStriker  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:44:50pm

re: #99 gwangung

Until Christ comes back.

Unless He has already been back, in which case they’re gonna be real fucking disappointed.

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:45:14pm

re: #100 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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gwangung  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:45:41pm

re: #102 TedStriker

Unless He has already been back, in which case they’re gonna be real fucking disappionted.

I think they’re going to be real disappointed anyway….

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NetworkKed  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:46:26pm

re: #100 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Huh. what’s the wonky black square/ribbon/cross symbol that I don’t recognize on those flags? Damn nazis can’t just stick with one or two, they keep mutating like a virus to throw off immune response.

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TedStriker  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:47:10pm

re: #104 gwangung

I think they’re going to be real disappointed anyway….

They’d throw the swarthy brown dude in jail.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:48:24pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:50:01pm
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The Major  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:52:05pm

re: #108 Charles Johnson

Hope the Newman GA Chamber of Commerce takes note - a city/town hosting NeoNazis is a surefire way of have businesses NOT locate nearby.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:53:14pm

re: #105 NetworkKed

Huh. what’s the wonky black square/ribbon/cross symbol that I don’t recognize on those flags? Damn nazis can’t just stick with one or two, they keep mutating like a virus to throw off immune response.

Odal rune.

It’s the official replacement for the swastika in US National Socialist imagery. Because the former is too obviously Nazi, while the latter is sufficiently Nazi for Nazis but maybe gets below the radar of people who aren’t really into history.

God, I hate these fucking people.

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TedStriker  Apr 21, 2018 • 1:55:39pm

re: #108 Charles Johnson

League of South speaker now front and center talking about the “Devil’s children: international Jewry” who he blames for “race-mixing” and “multiculturalism.”

Fuck this shit #Newnan pic.twitter.com

— Christopher Mathias (@letsgomathias) April 21, 2018

Definitely not even bothering trying to hide or couch their racism and bigotry and anti-Semitism in “soft” terms anymore, especially with the ascendance of Hair Furor to POTUS, I see.

Good…makes it much more easier to identify them as enemies of a just and fair civilization.

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 2:00:26pm

re: #108 Charles Johnson

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He got a follow for “Fuck this shit.”

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 2:01:58pm

re: #111 TedStriker

Definitely not even bothering trying to hide or couch their racism and bigotry and anti-Semitism in “soft” terms anymore, especially with the ascendance of Hair Furor to POTUS, I see.

Good…makes it much more easier to identify them as enemies of a just and fair civilization.

Which I say is a good reason for the First Amendment. Let them stand out in public and tell everyone exactly who they are.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2018 • 2:08:37pm

re: #104 gwangung

I think they’re going to be real disappointed anyway….

“Remember that thing I said about loving everyone? I meant it. Down escalator is over there.”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 21, 2018 • 2:13:14pm

re: #62 Big Beautiful Door

The comments are … interesting.

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TedStriker  Apr 21, 2018 • 2:15:11pm

re: #114 Eclectic Cyborg

“Remember that thing I said about loving everyone? I meant it. Down escalator is over there.”

“Did I fucking stutter?”

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TedStriker  Apr 21, 2018 • 2:21:43pm

re: #113 Belafon

Which I say is a good reason for the First Amendment. Let them stand out in public and tell everyone exactly who they are.

And let them whine like the “snowflake” bitches they are when their real identities are found out and decent people decide to not associate or work with them.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 21, 2018 • 2:29:07pm

JFC

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2018 • 2:37:55pm

It scares me again that we have come to regard white supremacism and overt fascism merely as points along the political spectrum and not as something that is anathema to everything America stands for and has even shed blood to fight against.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2018 • 2:42:36pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

JFC

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Small men fail to understand world, need big guns to feel manly .

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 21, 2018 • 2:43:14pm

I’ve read a lot of Nazi history in the last fortnight. Not WW2 combat, stuff about ideology, policy, and personalities.

One depressing thing: the frequency with which the racist activities of the US South was either invoked or replicated by German national socialists. On many societal levels. Compare and contrast KKK rituals and things like the torchlight marches. Compare and contrast Jim Crow and the Nuremburg laws. I mean, Italian fascists contributed to the rhetorical style and material culture, too, but the overlap and borrowing from the South is big.

Further depressing thought: people in the US went right back to discriminatory social engineering and terror targeted at African Americans—including the works programs and infrastructure transformation of FDR, which took the legs out from beneath African American by cutting them out of benefits and making them eat the negative consequences of the changes—while inflating larger and larger the mythology that we had unique moral clarity because we fought the Axis.

Himmler described national socialism as “socialism for people with good blood” and if you look at the implementation, it was a kleptocracy. Take from the “wrong” people by merging criminality and identity—you are a crime because you are—apply asset forfeiture and collective guilt. Basically, there’s a pyramid chart of who gets how much booty, and always the threat that you can be dropped to a lower status, including the very bottom where you’re deemed an unperson and subject to resource extraction as opposed to just privation.

Furthermore, the concept of the “right” people means infinite mutability of who is in the in-group (and thus deserving) so the distribution of spoils is always a carrot/stick means of demanding compliance: that the ethos makes no sense—the pseudo-science race genetics, the conspiracy theory-rich reading of political philosophy, the empty set of threatening “elites” to be despised and dismissed—is a bug not a feature. All the concepts are instrumental…race, blood and soil, “culture,” et cetera…to justifying the hierarchy and the spoils system, and are deliberately hollow and inconsistent. Bad faith is built into the thought-world at a basic level.

The Obvious Diabeetus Nazis at the rally today are disgusting and can fuck off forever, but it’s important to note that there are a lot of folks who share their thought-world who are considered legitimate commentators on politics and policy, and a long US-distinct history of stripping people of alien culture of assets, justified by their designation—mostly based on white/non-white distinction. Camps and pogroms are terrifying and “never again” should be everyone’s watchword, but the subtler redistributionist system that national socialists push—and I’d argue we’ve had national socialists by another name in our politics since the get-go—we also have to watch out for.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2018 • 2:46:50pm

re: #121 The Ghost of a Flea

I’ve read a lot of Nazi history in the last fortnight. Not WW2 combat, stuff about ideology, policy, and personalities.

Further depressing thought: people in the US went right back to discriminatory social engineering and terror targeted at African Americans—including the works programs and infrastructure transformation of FDR, which took the legs out from beneath African American by cutting them out of benefits and making them eat the negative consequences of the changes—while inflating larger and larger the mythology that we had unique moral clarity because we fought the Axis.

And housing policy that excluded a lot of blacks from the benefits of mortgage guarantees, because black neighborhoods were by definition “high risk” and excluded from coverage

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 21, 2018 • 2:47:29pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2018 • 2:49:21pm

re: #123 Barefoot Grin

Right. So crazy to imagine someone who coined the phrases Sloppy Steve, Lyin Ted, Crooked Hillary, Liddle Marco, Low Energy Jeb, Pocahontas, Cryin Chuck, Sleepy Eyes Chuck Todd, Leakin James Comey, and Little Rocket Man would have used these comparisons.

he said he didn’t so just shut up and stop hating on our President

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 21, 2018 • 2:58:45pm

re: #122 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And housing policy that excluded a lot of blacks from the benefits of mortgage guarantees, because black neighborhoods were by definition “high risk” and excluded from coverage

I credit Ta-Nehisi Coates for laying out how racist the New Deal was.

What amazes me is the physical infrastructure component…fucking over AA communities by transforming the physical spaces that they had investing time and capital into turning into neighborhoods. Where do you zone the pollution-spewing factories? Where do you put the highway exit versus the overpass?

Then again, I keep getting poleaxed by new versions of ethnic minority profits, white people conspire to take their shit away and the government either helps or turns a blind idea. The Tulsa race riots and the destruction of Black Wall Street; the theft of the very valuable farm businesses developed by West Cost Japanese-Americans during WW2 internment; the fricking murder conspiracy to strip the Osage of their oil profits.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:02:53pm

re: #125 The Ghost of a Flea

I credit Ta-Nehisi Coates for laying out how racist the New Deal was.

What amazes me is the physical infrastructure component…fucking over AA communities by transforming the physical spaces that they had investing time and capital into turning into neighborhoods. Where do you zone the pollution-spewing factories? Where do you put the highway exit versus the overpass?

Then again, I keep getting poleaxed by new versions of ethnic minority profits, white people conspire to take their shit away and the government either helps or turns a blind idea. The Tulsa race riots and the destruction of Black Wall Street; the theft of the very valuable farm businesses developed by West Cost Japanese-Americans during WW2 internment; the fricking murder conspiracy to strip the Osage of their oil profits.

I kind of knew about Chicago from a variety of sources, especially after the Cabrini Green demolitions started and I read about the forces that have always worked against AA in US cities (esp. Chicago). But Ta-Nehisi put it together in a way that made it really clear why Chicago is like it is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:07:43pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:08:28pm

So Trump seems to be trying to lay a foundation from which he can say Cohen is making things up if he flips. I would assume there would be corroborating evidence from the raids. Trump is screwed.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:08:38pm

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That guy is so fucking weird.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:09:34pm
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First Epistle of Paul to the Bagmen  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:09:36pm

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Well, we haven’t, but the media sure has. Today in the SF Chronicle the Daily Stormer was described as an alt-right site instead of a FUCKING FULL BLOWN NAZI SITE!.

God damned media is going to kill this country.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:10:21pm

re: #125 The Ghost of a Flea

I credit Ta-Nehisi Coates for laying out how racist the New Deal was.

What amazes me is the physical infrastructure component…fucking over AA communities by transforming the physical spaces that they had investing time and capital into turning into neighborhoods. Where do you zone the pollution-spewing factories? Where do you put the highway exit versus the overpass?

Then again, I keep getting poleaxed by new versions of ethnic minority profits, white people conspire to take their shit away and the government either helps or turns a blind idea. The Tulsa race riots and the destruction of Black Wall Street; the theft of the very valuable farm businesses developed by West Cost Japanese-Americans during WW2 internment; the fricking murder conspiracy to strip the Osage of their oil profits.

What frustrates me Re: New Deal is many white progressives don’t see that while denouncing people like Obama as sell outs. God knows I have my criticism of Wall Street but Roosevelt was okay with working with people who supported legalized lynching.

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:10:33pm

re: #131 Skip Intro

Well, we haven’t, but the media sure has. Today in the SF Chronicle the Daily Stormer was described as an alt-right site instead of a FUCKING FULL BLOWN NAZI SITE!.

God damned media is going to kill this country.

Just remember what the NYT said about Hitler.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:16:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:23:33pm
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Citizen K  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:27:44pm

Quoth:

And Linker reminds us that theater critic analysis is useful for pundits with an axe to grind, and in the particular case of Clinton the derangement tends to be particularly pronounced. So while transparently silly the “most winnable” meme is useful to Linker because it allows him to claim that Clinton and her supporters have no legitimate grievances and nobody else needs to be held accountable, when of course Clinton does have perfectly legitimate grievances and there are a lot of people who made bad judgements and need to be held accountable. As Sargent says, Comey is openly admitting that he put his thumb on the scale because he assumed that Clinton would win. This is bad behavior! (And, incidentally, it’s another reason why high levels of confidence in the outcome of counterfactuals are misplaced. Rubio or Cruz might have been “better” candidates in some abstract sense, but Clinton wouldn’t have been treated as the president-elect by the media or the FBI in those scenarios, and we have no idea how that would have played out. The question of whether Trump is a “bad” candidate is actually very complicated given the Electoral College and the media environment.)

But the narrative seems to be set: anything less than treating the ineptitude and personal corruption of Hillary Clinton as the end all, be all of Trump’s win in 2016 is unacceptable. She must be treated as The Sole Reason and Proof that the Dem Party must be totally burned down first before ever touching Trump.

And I fucking hate it forever.

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ObserverArt  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:32:08pm

15 months into Trump Presidency of Fail and Embarrassment and we see him complaining about not calling people certain stupid names because everyone knows he calls people stupid names.

The Demeaning of the United States Democracy.

And a number of Americans celebrate it.

When was that pivot again?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:34:28pm

good grief

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First Epistle of Paul to the Bagmen  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:37:28pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:37:28pm

re: #131 Skip Intro

Well, we haven’t, but the media sure has. Today in the SF Chronicle the Daily Stormer was described as an alt-right site instead of a FUCKING FULL BLOWN NAZI SITE!.

God damned media is going to kill this country.

The endless normalization of bad behavior by white dudes amazes me, and I’m a giant, very white dude. Like, literally and figuratively super white.

I don’t remember where I first heard the idea that part of white privilege is to treated as an individual as opposed to a manifestation of a collective*, but there’s a corollary in which ugliness and stupid cruelty are excused as being exceptional cases or the product of circumstance or not really meant, and that tolerance is extended disproportionately to white guys. So part of privilege is that not only are you an individual first, but also your unacceptable behavior—be it just rudeness or truly deep ugliness (up to and including stuff like abusive behavior)—is a product of circumstance and context, not a fixed aspect of the self. Whereas the unacceptable behavior of other folk is indicative of the true selves and immutable.

This is the bottom line for every fucking pundit who says something, whines about being criticized, and then come in the hot takes about how they’re silenced and maybe we could learn from them if we just listened…no matter how stupid and substanceless their statements are. Half the right-wing “intellectuals” write content that has no argument, just tu quoque and straw man, yet they are consistently tolerated and coddled. And eventually they cross into total inappropriateness…finally stretching too far with sexist or racist tropes that are only a short walk beyond what they do day after day…they are still permitted to not bear that mistake like an albatross.

Look at the “Friends of Hamas” shit Ben Shapiro pulled. That alone should have demonstrated that he operates not just in bad faith in his commentary, but is fundamentally uninterested in discussion to the point that he will invent misdeeds to attribute to his opponents. Or the ongoing Kevin Williamson fracas. Or Jonah Fucking Goldberg being treated as a serious intellectual when “Liberal Fascism” was a barely-researched, shallow, ahistorical Big Lie.

I frequently say that conservatism right now isn’t conservatism, and the actual ideology at play is more about stratification of entitlements and license (what can you get away with), and a big part of that tiered system is who gets to use language and rhetoric carelessly. Which is genuinely very frightened and disturbing because hearkens back to Sartre’s assessment of the use of works and concepts by antisemites: that they feel no obligation to use responsibly, because they are beyond arguments and simply see their opponents as inherently invalid.

* having just read in detail about Kristalnacht and the subsequent financial penalty all Jews had to pay to the state for the nuisance caused by their destruction of their property, this concept of collectivity assigned as a way of creating group guilt is salient.

Same theme of “who gets to be contextual versus fixed in identity, look at the way violent acts are described when committed by people with privilege in the US context, versus everyone else.

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:39:30pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief

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I’m torn on what should be done, but the company fired the people involved and is setting up training for every branch.

That’s more than a whole lot of other businesses have done.

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gwangung  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:45:03pm

re: #132 HappyWarrior

What frustrates me Re: New Deal is many white progressives don’t see that while denouncing people like Obama as sell outs. God knows I have my criticism of Wall Street but Roosevelt was okay with working with people who supported legalized lynching.

What frustrates ME is that many white progressives don’t see that blacks and other POCs have a VERY good reason not to trust socialistic solutions if they aren’t a part of them. “Fool me once” and all that is a VERY good rationale to approach white progressives’ solutions very cautiously.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:49:37pm

he retweeted this:


then tweeted this:

good grief…he is such a moron.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:50:12pm

re: #142 gwangung

What frustrates ME is that many white progressives don’t see that blacks and other POCs have a VERY good reason not to trust socialistic solutions if they aren’t a part of them. “Fool me once” and all that is a VERY good rationale to approach white progressives’ solutions very cautiously.

Great point and we saw that during the primaries.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:51:23pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

he retweeted this:

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good grief…he is such a moron.

This is the guy who called for his opponent to be hacked.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:52:01pm
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Romantic Heretic  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:52:16pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

They told him. He didn’t understand.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:53:34pm

re: #139 Skip Intro

Roger has died of polonium poisoning but nobody has noticed because the associated twitching, foul smells, and disgusting noises are indistinguishable from his behavior in life.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:53:58pm

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Man Nunes is pathetic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:54:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:56:23pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I think he’s actually asking him to join his legal team.

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:58:06pm

re: #118 Charles Johnson

Looking at the first photo I thought, “How is that jerk going to pull out that pistol with all that extra weight in the way?”

Master race, my ass.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:59:24pm

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Did we expect anything else from Half Assed Goodman????????

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 3:59:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 4:01:22pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s such an obnoxious piece of shit.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 21, 2018 • 4:05:23pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And again, Kudlow would be dead if he did $100K/month. He had to have been dealing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 4:07:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 4:08:26pm

re: #156 Barefoot Grin

And again, Kudlow would be dead if he did $100K/month. He had to have been dealing.

OF COURSE he was dealing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 4:10:31pm
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Amory Blaine  Apr 21, 2018 • 4:12:48pm

Not that I necessarily agree with the sentiment, but he has a point.

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 4:13:52pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

And I bet the white person who made that comment has never had their being white explained to them, because it’s expected to be the default.

This is why Starbucks has to have the training.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 4:15:05pm

Lre: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good read.

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 4:15:30pm

re: #160 Amory Blaine

Not that I necessarily agree with the sentiment, but he has a point.

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I don’t think he agrees with the sentiment. I think he’s pointing out the hypocrisy and how ludicrous it all is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 4:17:11pm
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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 4:18:09pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, the only time cops should march is at graduation.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 21, 2018 • 4:20:05pm

Oh shit…
thedrive.com

Details remain very sketchy but there is elevating talk that a coup attempt has been made against King Salman of Saudi Arabia. Heavy gunfire was heard around the sprawling royal palace complex overnight in the Kingdom, and various reports state that the King had been moved to a safe bunker complex at an air base nearby. Other sources say it may be a terror attack or an assault by Houthi forces that infiltrated the country, or even the result of a small drone overflying a palace checkpoint. So at this point, we really don’t have a definitive answer as to what is going on.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 21, 2018 • 4:21:01pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Amory Blaine  Apr 21, 2018 • 4:23:16pm

If you were on a planet where the entire atmosphere was made up of CO2 and you opened a can of Pepsi, it would still go flat immediately.

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BeachDem  Apr 21, 2018 • 4:23:16pm

re: #130 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Plus, he was in Key West on Thursday, not yesterday.

Donald Trump greeted with a chorus of boos in Key West

President Donald Trump’s motorcade was greeted with a chorus of boos and profanity at it made its way through Key West, Florida on Thursday, April 19, 2018.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 21, 2018 • 4:23:56pm

LOL Whew

washingtonpost.com

After rare gunfire in Saudi capital, officials say they shot down a toy drone
ISTANBUL — After residents in Saudi Arabia’s capital reported hearing rare bursts of gunfire on Saturday evening, followed by videos of heavy shooting that circulated on the Internet, the Saudi government said it had an explanation: Someone had flown a recreational drone, without authorization, and security forces had shot it down.
A government statement said that guards at a checkpoint in Riyadh, the capital, observed the drone shortly before 8 p.m., in the Al-Khozama neighborhood, where a palace belonging to King Salman, the Saudi monarch, is located. The security forces “dealt with it according to their orders,” the statement said.

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Jay C  Apr 21, 2018 • 4:29:22pm

re: #170 Unshaken Defiance

LOL Whew

washingtonpost.com

Yeah, whew! I went to check a variety of international news sites, and the “toy drone” flap (and what sounds like a trigger-happy reaction to it by security forces) seems to be what the fuss was about.
So far.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 21, 2018 • 4:34:21pm

When things are this tense, and your leadershiop this awfuil, it pay to gather information fast. If you can get it anyway.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 21, 2018 • 4:44:34pm

Man…..

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jeffreyw  Apr 21, 2018 • 4:50:13pm

re: #156 Barefoot Grin

And again, Kudlow would be dead if he did $100K/month. He had to have been dealing.

He took delivery in a Ming vase.

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Jenner7  Apr 21, 2018 • 4:54:11pm

Man, the Portland Trailblazers got swept. That’s rough.

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ObserverArt  Apr 21, 2018 • 4:57:53pm

re: #175 Jenner7

Man, the Portland Trailblazers got swept. That’s rough.

Things are not much better for the Not Very Good Cleveland Cavaliers.

Say goodbye to Lebron Cleveland.

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Jenner7  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:00:32pm

re: #176 ObserverArt

Yep, I have a pissed off 14 year old right now. And he takes it out of my Utah Jazz. lol

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:06:14pm
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The Major  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:07:07pm

re: #161 Belafon

And I bet the white person who made that comment has never had their being white explained to them, because it’s expected to be the default.

This is why Starbucks has to have the training.

It’s just good business to treat everybody equally, dammit…..

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Jay C  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:07:29pm

Regarding what (ever) is going down in Saudi Arabia right now,
Adam L. Silverman at Balloon Juice has some analysis: unfortunately, for the moment, it is VERY unclear what is (or has been happening).
This tweet seems to sum it up.

Max Abrahms

Verified account

@MaxAbrahms
5h5 hours ago
More
Developing

Saudi Arabia

What exactly I’m not sure.

17 replies 43 retweets 103 likes
Reply 17 Retweet 43 Like 103

But it appears to be more serious than first reported. Though as Adam points out, it has hardly been reported at all in the media anywhere.

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First Epistle of Paul to the Bagmen  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:08:02pm

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s such an honor for them to have him relive the 2016 election for the 10,000th time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:08:17pm

OT just because…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:08:43pm

re: #181 Skip Intro

It’s such an honor for them to have him relive the 2016 election for the 10,000th time.

I bet he brings Electoral College maps for everyone!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:11:32pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:11:39pm

re: #181 Skip Intro

It’s such an honor for them to have him relive the 2016 election for the 10,000th time.

You can count on that ass uttering “Crooked Hillary” and sadly a lot of graduates will cheer him.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:14:35pm

I think it’s worth remembering that early in Trump’s administration when he was tweeting about “China has to do something about North Korea” China’s official newspapers ran articles stating that there were many more Russians than Chinese in Pyongyang.

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First Epistle of Paul to the Bagmen  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:16:02pm

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

I bet he brings Electoral College maps for everyone!

Does he know he lost the election in Maryland by 25 points?

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The Major  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:16:20pm

A few days ago (maybe longer) there was some Twitter arsehole who I (And I think Varek) reported….needless to say, he’s no more….

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:16:33pm

re: #187 Skip Intro

Does he know he lost the election in Maryland by 25 points?

It was obviously voter fraud.

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Jenner7  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:16:41pm

Who’s shocked?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:18:48pm

re: #190 Jenner7

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Who’s shocked?

Not at all.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:21:52pm

re: #190 Jenner7

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Who’s shocked?

He and most of the people responding to him are insane. They like Trump because they think he’ll destroy the DNC. They hate democrats that much.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:22:59pm

re: #190 Jenner7

Another data point in the “some of these people don’t have an ideology or actual shit they want to see done, they have narcissism and gravitate to whatever belief and affiliation gratifies them in the moment.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:25:39pm

re: #192 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

He and most of the people responding to him are insane. They like Trump because they think he’ll destroy the DNC. They hate democrats that much.

A lot of the fake profiles responding to ol’ Half-Assed Goodman are Russian Trollbots.

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The Major  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:30:39pm

re: #192 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

He and most of the people responding to him are insane. They like Trump because they think he’ll destroy the DNC. They hate democrats that much.

My friend was an at-large Sanders Delegate to the DNC - when he lost, my friend switched to Dr. Jill Stein.

They will never hear the end of that from me - especially since they coughed up $500 for the local Dem Rep for the general - holy hypocrisy, Batman!

The “Flawed Candidate” canard doesn’t cut the mustard, sad to say….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:31:29pm
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The Major  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:38:12pm

re: #190 Jenner7

Time for some tormenting….

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:41:08pm

Claims to hate the intel community. Supports the guy who supports torture and appointed Pompeo.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:42:29pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:43:16pm

Saturday dinner-Leftover roast with extra sautéed veggies.

let that simmer a while…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:45:39pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:46:01pm

re: #199 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Oh fuck.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:50:19pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:55:22pm
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:57:30pm

I’m sorry to keep posting others’ tweets, but there is so much out there:

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:58:14pm

re: #199 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I enjoyed a lot of the anime references in the replies.

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nines09  Apr 21, 2018 • 5:58:34pm

Free webcast. Click to see lineup. Tonight tomorrow. From Atlanta the SweetWater 420 Festival. Tedeschi Trucks on now. Enjoy.

nugs.tv

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:01:11pm

re: #205 Barefoot Grin

I’m sorry to keep posting others’ tweets, but there is so much out there:

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Where do they find these morons? Trying to imagine how this would go over as an excuse for Clinton.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:01:28pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:02:06pm

re: #208 HappyWarrior

Where do they find these morons? Trying to imagine how this would go over as an excuse for Clinton.

They are Russian Trollbots!

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:02:24pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What do Americans expect when they keep voting for Republicans?

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:03:55pm

re: #205 Barefoot Grin

I’m sorry to keep posting others’ tweets, but there is so much out there:

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:05:07pm

re: #210 Joe Bacon 🌹

They are Russian Trollbots!

Kim Strassel writes for one of the major American newspapers. Lots of folks read her shit on the train into Manhattan from the burbs in Connecticutt.

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teleskiguy  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:05:32pm

re: #207 nines09

The Umphreys tomorrow night!

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:07:19pm

re: #78 HappyWarrior

Can’t forget that the Christian Right in this country were staunch defenders of Apartheid.

And segregation.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:07:36pm

re: #210 Joe Bacon 🌹

They are Russian Trollbots!

I think even trollbots could find a better excuse than Comey entrapped Trump.

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nines09  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:08:08pm

re: #214 teleskiguy

The Umphreys tomorrow night!

Happy 420!

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Jenner7  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:10:08pm

Trump supporters:

“He’s too stupid to do anything wrong!”

Also

“He’s a genius!”

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teleskiguy  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:11:08pm
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Teukka  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:12:33pm

re: #219 teleskiguy

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Christ. Is this asshole for real? A guy just lost his mom, and he uses her to insult him?
*SMGDH*

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:12:58pm

re: #220 Teukka

Christ. Is this asshole for real? A guy just lost his mom, and he uses her to insult him?
*SMGDH*

The tweet is over two years old.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:13:30pm

re: #213 Barefoot Grin

Kim Stressel writes for one of the major American newspapers. Lots of folks read her shit on the train into Manhattan from the burbs in Connecticutt.

Yes and she writes for the Wall Street Jerk-el which discloses all you need to know about her.

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Teukka  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:13:32pm

re: #221 Belafon

The tweet is over two years old.

I noticed. But I wouldn’t put it past the Mango Menace not to do a re-run :(

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lawhawk  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:15:18pm

Another GOPer is in big trouble with law enforcement. He’s going to try the same Trump route, but with even less success.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:16:42pm

re: #224 lawhawk

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Another GOPer is in big trouble with law enforcement. He’s going to try the same Trump route, but with even less success.

Governor 50 Shades Of Kink is doing an invaluable service to America by destroying the Missouri Republican Party!

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:18:02pm

re: #225 Joe Bacon 🌹

Governor 50 Shades Of Kink is doing an invaluable service to America by destroying the Missouri Republican Party!

If America is that lucky, then we’ll recover from the Trump era faster than even I think we can.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:18:39pm

I had an idiot post on my page saying what Bill Clinton did to Paula Jones was worse than Greitens.

I reminded the fool that Bill didn’t tie anyone up and blackmail them…

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Targetpractice  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:19:16pm

re: #205 Barefoot Grin

I’m sorry to keep posting others’ tweets, but there is so much out there:

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They are so desperate to present Trump as totally the victim of a grand conspiracy. Something they never would have entertained for a second when there was a black man in the White House.

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Teukka  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:22:21pm

re: #228 Targetpractice

They are so desperate to present Trump as totally the victim of a grand conspiracy. Something they never would have entertained for a second when there was a black man in the White House.

Kinda ironic, that members the “party of personal responsibility” seem to have great difficulties accepting and much less admitting their own mistakes, which in this case is electing a shady as fuck individual as the president of the land.

I just keep wondering how harsh the reality check will be for them once it finally arrives.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:24:05pm

re: #229 Teukka

Kinda ironic, that members the “party of personal responsibility” seem to have great difficulties accepting and much less admitting their own mistakes, which in this case is electing a shady as fuck individual as the president of the land.

I just keep wondering how harsh the reality check will be for them once it finally arrives.

Ah, but you don’t need to have any personal responsibility in the Republican Party because Jesus forgives you!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:25:05pm

Evening Lizardim from the thawing wild north country. Today was beautiful and I got to get out a bit and enjoy it. And for once, fishfolk came by to visit and no political statements were had to be found. It was amazing and peaceful and almost like it should be. How go things among the lizardfolk on this gorgeous spring evening?

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Teukka  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:25:25pm

re: #230 Joe Bacon 🌹

Ah, but you don’t need to have any personal responsibility in the Republican Party because Jesus forgives you!

“That’s not how it works. That’s not how any of this works.”
*ROFLcopters*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:25:35pm
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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:26:38pm

re: #229 Teukka

Kinda ironic, that members the “party of personal responsibility” seem to have great difficulties accepting and much less admitting their own mistakes, which in this case is electing a shady as fuck individual as the president of the land.

I just keep wondering how harsh the reality check will be for them once it finally arrives.

Personal Responsibility is a night club that caters to a particular clientele, one that prefers their Puritanism with a bit of smut and discipline. You can rent it out for special occasions.

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majii  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:28:50pm

re: #224 lawhawk

“Another GOPer is in big trouble with law enforcement. He’s going to try the same Trump route, but with even less success.”

I don’t see Greitens leaving office voluntarily. I read a few days ago that wealthy donors have already told Missouri GOP lawmakers that they won’t fund their campaigns if they don’t support Greitens. It’s going to be really interesting to me to see what the GOP lawmakers do.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:29:50pm

re: #229 Teukka

The words don’t mean anything.

Same as when they invoke Jesus, the free market, or the Constitution.

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:30:04pm

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Drake] was accepted to 10 schools — including Cornell, Dartmouth and Brown — and said he plans on becoming president of the United States in 2044.

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Jenner7  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:30:31pm

Hahahahhahahaha!

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Citizen K  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:31:15pm

re: #235 majii

“Another GOPer is in big trouble with law enforcement. He’s going to try the same Trump route, but with even less success.”

I don’t see Greitens leaving office voluntarily. I read a few days ago that wealthy donors have already told Missouri GOP lawmakers that they won’t fund their campaigns if they don’t support Greitens. It’s going to be really interesting to me to see what the GOP lawmakers do.

Consequences: They’re for the little people who don’t make the rich richer.

Seriously, the fact that, after all this shit, donors are laying an ultimatum demanding the GOP keep supporting this shitheel shows how empty greed and power is all these folks value.

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:32:29pm

re: #239 Citizen K

Consequences: They’re for the little people who don’t make the rich richer.

Seriously, the fact that, after all this shit, donors are laying an ultimatum demanding the GOP keep supporting this shitheel shows how empty greed and power is all these folks value.

It’s because they are desperate. They’re trying to force party unification.

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:32:59pm

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

I am curious what he was “2017 World Champion” of.

Edit: Other current and former Texas State Board of Education people are congratulating Drake.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:34:05pm

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

That response was way too polite.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:34:36pm

Ellis Rosen

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TedStriker  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:35:10pm

re: #235 majii

“Another GOPer is in big trouble with law enforcement. He’s going to try the same Trump route, but with even less success.”

I don’t see Greitens leaving office voluntarily. I read a few days ago that wealthy donors have already told Missouri GOP lawmakers that they won’t fund their campaigns if they don’t support Greitens. It’s going to be really interesting to me to see what the GOP lawmakers do.

re: #239 Citizen K

Consequences: They’re for the little people who don’t make the rich richer.

Seriously, the fact that, after all this shit, donors are laying an ultimatum demanding the GOP keep supporting this shitheel shows how empty greed and power is all these folks value.

re: #240 Belafon

It’s because they are desperate. They’re trying to force party unification.

Either way, Greitens is and will be a millstone around the neck of the Missouri GOP.

Works for me…

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:38:39pm

Lars Kenseth

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stpaulbear  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:39:33pm

re: #231 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Evening Lizardim from the thawing wild north country. Today was beautiful and I got to get out a bit and enjoy it. And for once, fishfolk came by to visit and no political statements were had to be found. It was amazing and peaceful and almost like it should be. How go things among the lizardfolk on this gorgeous spring evening?

I rode my scooter for the first time this season. I put on about 40 miles running around town. I skipped Record Store Day because I wasn’t in the mood for crowded stores today.

Edit: this photo is from a few years ago. There’s still snow on the ground here now.

so much fun
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ObserverArt  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:40:07pm

re: #244 TedStriker

Either way, Greitens is and will be a millstone around the neck of the Missouri GOP.

Works for me…

I’m hoping all of these GOP wingnut politicians caught in all kinds of issues are millstones around the neck of the entire Republican National Committee/Party.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:40:38pm

re: #238 Jenner7

BREAKING NEWS:

Mitt Romney - 1,585 votes. 49%
Mike Kennedy - 1,642 votes 50%.

There WILL be a PRIMARY.


Hahahahhahahaha!

Let me get this straight. The Utah Republican Party has a Primary, to determine if they have a Primary?

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TedStriker  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:40:52pm

re: #245 De Kolta Chair

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I bet Goldy really could tell some stories…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:45:03pm

JFC
Would a Proposed Law ‘Ban the Bible’ in California?

It is amazing that Snopes would even have to rebut this absurdity but it gets worse: The claim of a Bible ban has actually been made by what pass for mainstream Republicans these days, legislator Travis Allen and media shill Liz Wheeler. The fundy echo chamber is on fire with it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:45:15pm

re: #241 Belafon

I am curious what he was “2017 World Champion” of.

Edit: Other current and former Texas State Board of Education people are congratulating Drake.

He is apparently a world champion cheerleader.
buzzfeed.com

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:45:40pm

re: #246 stpaulbear

I rode my scooter for the first time this season. I put on about 40 miles running around town. I skipped Record Store Day because I wasn’t in the mood for crowded stores today.

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I rolled Baby out of the garage this afternoon and took her for a 5-minute drive around town. I didn’t want to go too far because I want to keep her as clear of road salt as possible and the roads haven’t been washed down with rainwater yet. Hopefully this week.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:45:44pm
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Sea Mexican!  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:46:32pm

re: #249 TedStriker

I bet Goldy really could tell some stories…

And the years of psychological treatment it will need.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:47:17pm

re: #252 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Let’s try that again.

Big and shiny!
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De Kolta Chair  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:47:56pm

Brendan Loper

“Lights. Camera. Fiction!”

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Sea Mexican!  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:48:02pm

re: #253 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

Quick question: Does Hannity look like a Peterson or a Dennison? :P

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TedStriker  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:48:12pm

re: #255 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Let’s try that again.

[Embedded content]

Landshark!

One of the obvious inspirations for the Canyonero in The Simpsons.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:48:20pm

You know, for all my analytical fussing I never cease to be amazed at how perfectly the political culture of US “conservatism” has become overrun by mountebanks.

Like, the sheer number of obvious fucking confidence men who have latched onto the paranoid style and the persecution complex and monetized it in the most tawdry ways possible.

Like, we’re far past the crude cunning of outrage peddlers like Limbaugh, and moved in to an era of quarter-assed, phoned-in excuses for blatant hustling. And yet it works, because all you need is a 3x5 card cheat sheet of key phrases.

This is what happens when you domesticate rubes. This is what happens when you move beyond mere anti-intellectualism and into contempt for critical thinking because fuck you pansy libs and your A is A fag shit.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:51:38pm

Interesting Shot….. Cliff swallow gathering nesting mud comes up short.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:52:11pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:54:00pm

re: #252 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I rolled Baby out of the garage this afternoon and took her for a 5-minute drive around town. I didn’t want to go too far because I want to keep her as clear of road salt as possible and the roads haven’t been washed down with rainwater yet. Hopefully this week.

I got caught offguard by a little patch of sand about a block from my house and then I was very careful about cornering from then on. I was surprised at how generally clean the roads were today. I think you’d be pretty safe, although there were patches where the road was really wet from snow melt run-off.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:54:58pm

re: #259 The Ghost of a Flea

You know, for all my analytical fussing I never cease to be amazed at how perfectly the political culture of US “conservatism” has become overrun by mountebanks.

Like, the sheer number of obvious fucking confidence men who have latched onto the paranoid style and the persecution complex and monetized it in the most tawdry ways possible.

Like, we’re far past the crude cunning of outrage peddlers like Limbaugh, and moved in to an era of quarter-assed, phoned-in excuses for blatant hustling. And yet it works, because all you need is a 3x5 card cheat sheet of key phrases.

This is what happens when you domesticate rubes. This is what happens when you move beyond mere anti-intellectualism and into contempt for critical thinking because fuck you pansy libs and your A is A faggor shit.

The peddlers latched onto long ago that the party/group that runs on privilege, emotion, and essentially non-logic is much easier to take advantage of. Con man used to sell himself as of being of good family stock - and thus obviously could be trusted. This morphed into being part of whatever the proper group needs to be; Christian, Republican, etc. and then having an initial store of trust to be taken advantage of.
And then pile on top of it that once people are time and emotionally invested* in something it is very, very, difficult to give it up as a bad deal since it’s a sacrifice of resources, ego, and often social ridicule for being a sucker.

(* - From my past experience as a fraternity volunteer this is also the key for why young men don’t simply walk away from the stuff like hazing that has not been stomped out yet like it should be.)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:57:28pm

re: #262 stpaulbear

I got caught offguard by a little patch of sand about a block from my house and then I was very careful about cornering from then on. I was surprised at how generally clean the roads were today. I think you’d be pretty safe, although there were patches where the road was really wet from snow melt run-off.

I saw a few patches of raw salt in my neighborhood, and as you say, the snow is still melting off into the streets. It was mostly dry, but I’ve got to be extra careful with that big old girl. I’ve already put three summers of work into her and I don’t want her falling apart on me the way Mrs. Fish’s daily driver is starting to.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:58:49pm

re: #248 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Let me get this straight.

We’re talking Utah here, so you better be straight.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:59:18pm

Apparently the White House is capable of acts of decency

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 6:59:31pm

re: #248 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Let me get this straight. The Utah Republican Party has a Primary, to determine if they have a Primary?

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The Major  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:01:01pm

re: #253 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:02:08pm

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Scaramucci Reacts to Watter’s Words”

Is that reference to the pee tape? Asking for a urophilian.

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The Major  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:02:26pm

re: #266 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Apparently the White House Melania Trump is capable of acts of decency

FIFY.

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The Major  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:04:40pm

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

How horrible/low has Fox gotten that Jesse Watters, former Hit Man for Bill O’Reilly, has his own show.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:07:17pm

re: #231 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Evening Lizardim from the thawing wild north country. Today was beautiful and I got to get out a bit and enjoy it. And for once, fishfolk came by to visit and no political statements were had to be found. It was amazing and peaceful and almost like it should be. How go things among the lizardfolk on this gorgeous spring evening?

I’m almost getting bored in hotel. Something about not being home? Same shit. Just feeling disrupted.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:08:52pm

re: #271 The Major

Actually this is step up for Fox News. Still, don’t expect any Peabody awards anytime soon.

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teleskiguy  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:08:53pm

Um, there’s something wrong with this shirt.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:09:31pm

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Rest in Peace”? Nah. Fuck that guy. How about “Burn in Hell”?

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:10:02pm
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De Kolta Chair  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:10:38pm

re: #266 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

How nice of her to visit the Great Sept of Baelor. On second thought, didn’t Cersei blow that up a couple of seasons ago?

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The Major  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:10:39pm

re: #268 The Major

Speaking of Hannity: could it be that he, like Bill O, had to fork out cash settlements - except that in Bill O’s case, Hannity is the Hill that Fox News will die on?

100% behind Hannity, Fox News? Could we be seeing the impending collapse of Fox’s anchor?

God/Yahweh/Allah/Buddah/Shiva/FSM let’s hope so…

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petesh  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:11:33pm

re: #274 teleskiguy

Um, there’s something wrong with this shirt.

[Embedded content]

Yup. And the idiot wearing it. If he is trying to be ironic, what’s wrong with him is something different than if he isn’t, but either way.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:11:52pm

re: #260 Dave In Austin

Interesting Shot….. Cliff swallow gathering nesting mud comes up short.

[Embedded content]

Bringing new meaning to “swallow”.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:12:00pm

re: #276 goddamnedfrank

The master would not approve, to say the least.

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The Major  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:12:23pm

re: #274 teleskiguy

Ummmmm….yeah……

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:12:39pm

re: #276 goddamnedfrank

Does he have oddly enlarged knees?

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teleskiguy  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:13:28pm

I could see myself wearing a shirt like that at a show, just to annoy people.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:13:42pm

re: #274 teleskiguy

Um, there’s something wrong with this shirt.

[Embedded content]

Maybe he’s trying to be an ironic hipster dude. Or he’s just plain stupid.

Clearly the guy in that pic is Little Richard!
//

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:13:49pm

Fuckin’ Torgo, man. You can’t take him anywhere.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:14:18pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:15:00pm

re: #285 wheat-dogg

Clearly the guy in that pic is Little Richard!

It’s Marvin Gaye! Gosh, people are so stoopid!

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:15:02pm

re: #274 teleskiguy

“My other Bob Marley tee shows Mick Jagger.”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:15:52pm

re: #276 goddamnedfrank

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Wow! Another great moment in gooberism. The shooting was an accident, and the shooter himself was the only victim; but he STILL manages to get himself arrested over it.

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The Major  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:17:32pm

re: #273 De Kolta Chair

Still, don’t expect any Peabody awards.

Donchta mean the Polk Award ?

Bill O’Reilly clashes with Al Franken “SHUT UP!” 1/2

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makeitstop  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:19:35pm

re: #285 wheat-dogg

Maybe he’s trying to be an ironic hipster dude. Or he’s just plain stupid.

Clearly the guy in that pic is Little Richard!
//

Nah. Phil Lynott from Thin Lizzy.
/

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:20:33pm

re: #263 Feline Fearless Leader

Sunk cost fallacy and the idea of affiliation as veracity. Always makes me think of this article.

At this point what irks me is the poor craftsmanship. Like, I can respect a good hustle, but this is just fucking pathetic. Chuck Johnson should not be able to make a car payment, let alone a career, out of the shit he peddles, and yet…it’s not just that he does it, it’s that there’s several clown cars worth of competitors for the same Fiji Mermaid, “off-brand Vienna sausage at the by-the-lot-store”-quality work.

And the ugliness. I can understand greed, I can understand wanting cheap fixes or magic cures. But there’s this entire culture of people who seem to enjoy being scared, and have this kind of sociopathic moray-eel excitement about the idea that people that aren’t like them are in pain.

I swear on the bones of this robot, the internet has connected up all the people that would otherwise just be the neighborhood weirdo that you didn’t leave alone with your pets, and now they’ve got a support network for their psychopathic tendencies.

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The Major  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:23:20pm

Do not listen to this unless you really want to hate Bill O’Reiley:

Bill O’Reilly Responds To Franken’s Resignation -2017

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:23:51pm

re: #294 The Major

Do not listen to this unless you really want to hate Bill O’Reiley:

[Embedded content]

Which you should already, so.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:23:56pm

re: #290 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Wow! Another great moment in gooberism. The shooting was an accident, and the shooter himself was the only victim; but he STILL manages to get himself arrested over it.

Why do they always go the extra step and make the fictional assailant brown? Why add that particular detail?

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The Major  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:26:56pm
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TedStriker  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:26:57pm

re: #296 The Ghost of a Flea

Why do they always go the extra step and make the fictional assailant brown? Why add that particular detail?

Because they’re racist, moronic fucks, that’s why.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:28:21pm

Today in Wheat-dogg family news: my cousin B and I have finally heard from our older cousin M after nearly 30 years of silence. Seriously, M dropped off the planet (apparently) in the 1990s, and none of us had any clue where she was or what she was doing. B and I decided that none of us are getting any younger, and M is the oldest among us first cousins (I’m the youngest) so we decided to get serious about hunting her down. It was not easy. Her name is very common — like looking for a Bob Smith common — and she has no online presence at all. Finally, using those people search sites, we located a likely suspect living in a senior community on the Big Island of Hawai’i. We called a few times, got no answer, but finally B was able to talk to a person in the office who agreed to pass on a message to M. He followed up with a letter to M. Months have passed, but he got a surprise call from M yesterday! While she has some health issues, she’s as sharp as ever at age 71, and I am looking forward to chatting with her on this contraption called the telephone very soon.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:28:50pm

re: #296 The Ghost of a Flea

Why do they always go the extra step and make the fictional assailant brown? Why add that particular detail?

Kneejerk racism and a lifetime of prejudicial indoctrination have made dark skinned minorities their subconscious bogeymen. In their worldview that’s the only conceivable kind of person who would randomly attack them for no reason.

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The Major  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:29:15pm

re: #295 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Which you should already, so.

Listening to it seems like he’s describing himself when he talks about Franken.

BillO REALLY hates Franken. At least Franken Served in the US Senate.

BillO? $24 Million (that we know about….)

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calochortus  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:29:26pm

re: #298 TedStriker

Because they’re racist, moronic fucks, that’s why.

And they have no imagination and no use for originality.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:31:07pm

re: #298 TedStriker

Well, yeah, but…it’s still fascinating that somewhere in their brain, in the midst of total panic over whatever shit they just pulled, they decide tactically to add detail that the fictive assailant was brown?

Basically, is it implicit racism because they just do it without thinking, or is there an actual workshopping contemplation where they’re like, “yeah, if I say it’s a black guy the cops will totally buy in to this.”

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teleskiguy  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:31:36pm

SCIENCE

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wheat-dogg  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:34:05pm

re: #292 makeitstop

Nah. Phil Lynott from Thin Lizzy.
/

I was going with Lyle Lovett.

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:36:19pm

re: #274 teleskiguy

First replies:

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teleskiguy  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:37:53pm
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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:37:59pm

And it looks like an inside joke:

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:39:05pm

re: #307 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

And we’ll go see those if they’re worth it. I’m looking forward to Alita, even if you’re whining, James.

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teleskiguy  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:39:44pm

re: #308 Belafon

And it looks like an inside joke

Now I want to make a shirt with a picture of Keith Richards with the letters “John Lennon” above the picture.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:40:48pm

re: #303 The Ghost of a Flea

Well, yeah, but…it’s still fascinating that somewhere in their brain, in the midst of total panic over whatever shit they just pulled, they decide tactically to add detail that the fictive assailant was brown?

Basically, is it implicit racism because they just do it without thinking, or is there an actual workshopping contemplation where they’re like, “yeah, if I say it’s a black guy the cops will totally buy in to this.”

Both, and nine times out of ten they’re right, the cops will credulously accept that description. Institutional racism as a self propagating fractal meme bouncing back and forth between the individual act and societal reinforcement creating the environment that incubates it.

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Targetpractice  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:41:17pm

re: #307 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

Gotta think older than that. The best nickname I ever heard for Avatar was “Dances with Smurfs.”

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The Major  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:41:30pm

re: #307 teleskiguy

I was so hoping that “Ghost In The Shell” would lead to more adaptations of anime in Hollywood….

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:45:59pm

re: #313 The Major

I was so hoping that “Ghost In The Shell” would lead to more adaptations of anime in Hollywood….

Give it time. We’re getting Alita. I don’t think the general public is ready for Akira or even Appleseed.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:46:51pm

re: #310 teleskiguy

Now I want to make a shirt with a picture of Keith Richards with the letters “John Lennon” above the picture.

How about a picture of Skeletor with “Keith Richards” above the picture?

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William Lewis  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:47:21pm

re: #314 Belafon

Give it time. We’re getting Alita. I don’t think the general public is ready for Akira or even Appleseed.

I want a live action “Girls Und Panzer”…




What?
< grinning, ducking & running >

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:48:10pm

re: #311 goddamnedfrank

*sigh*…yeah…

Back in the day, unexplained murders were always done by hoboes and drifters. Same kind of handwave bullshit but with added racism.

Now I’m depressed.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:48:26pm

re: #316 William Lewis

I want a live action “Girls Und Panzer”…




What?
< grinning, ducking & running >

Just need to lasso Bovington into helping with it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:48:46pm

re: #293 The Ghost of a Flea

Sunk cost fallacy and the idea of affiliation as veracity. Always makes me think of this article.

At this point what irks me is the poor craftsmanship. Like, I can respect a good hustle, but this is just fucking pathetic. Chuck Johnson should not be able to make a car payment, let alone a career, out of the shit he peddles, and yet…it’s not just that he does it, it’s that there’s several clown cars worth of competitors for the same Fiji Mermaid, “off-brand Vienna sausage at the by-the-lot-store”-quality work.

And the ugliness. I can understand greed, I can understand wanting cheap fixes or magic cures. But there’s this entire culture of people who seem to enjoy being scared, and have this kind of sociopathic moray-eel excitement about the idea that people that aren’t like them are in pain.

I swear on the bones of this robot, the internet has connected up all the people that would otherwise just be the neighborhood weirdo that you didn’t leave alone with your pets, and now they’ve got a support network for their psychopathic tendencies.

This! This! A thousand times THIS!!!!

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teleskiguy  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:49:05pm

As the bald eagle population continues to increase, we’re finding more birds poisoned by lead from spent ammunition. This eagle had to be rehabbed after they found it almost dead, x-ray showed it had swallowed a single lead pellet from spent bird shot.

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The Major  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:49:06pm

re: #316 William Lewis

“Girls Und Panzer”

You asked for it, and The Major delivers….

Girls und Panzer Katyusha full version. Катюша Девушки унд-я танковая

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:50:22pm

re: #311 goddamnedfrank

Both, and nine times out of ten they’re right, the cops will credulously accept that description. Institutional racism as a self propagating fractal meme bouncing back and forth between the individual act and societal reinforcement creating the environment that incubates it.

A kid was shot in my neighborhood. He claimed it was a black guy, so the parents in estates, and they are legion, put the neighborhood on lockdown. A few days later it came out that he shot himself after taking his dad’s gun.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:51:40pm

re: #322 Belafon

A kid was shot in my neighborhood. He claimed it was a black guy, so the parents in estates, and they are legion, put the neighborhood on lockdown. A few days later it came out that he shot himself after taking his dad’s gun.

A lot of imaginary black guys out there, shooting people at really close range….

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teleskiguy  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:52:14pm

re: #320 teleskiguy

Another striking thing about this: I lived in Steamboat Springs, CO for eight years. I don’t remember there not being snow on the valley floor around 4/20. Watching that video in the link, and seeing that valley floor bare, kind of breaks my heart.

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:52:22pm
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William Lewis  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:52:58pm

re: #321 The Major

You asked for it, and The Major delivers….

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Yeah, that’s a fun version of the song.

The movie is even more … something… humorous is the closest word but that’s not really it… than the series was. Having been a real world tanker, the sight of a tank being drifted should make me cringe but hey, it’s anime :D It’s like expecting sane terraforming in Cowboy Bebop.

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BeachDem  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:53:32pm

So, back from the state Dem convention. Good turnout, lots of energy. Some really good statewide candidates (and a few who even have a chance of knocking off Rep. US reps, like Archie Parnell, who almost won the special election for gross, disgusting Mick Mulvaney’s old seat last year.)

My choice for gov. had a great intro for his speech—a marching band, a video by Uncle Joe Biden (James Smith, our candidate was a good friend of Beau’s) and an intro by
Jim Clyburn.

Alison Lundergan Grimes spoke last night at our dinner and was amazing. Tim Ryan also spoke last night, but I left the dinner before he went on.

Jeff Merkley was the keynote today and he was really great.

And Merkley and Ryan spoke at our Women’s Council breakfast today as well. And then…there was Nina fucking Turner, who spoke at the breakfast (I walked out) and also had a slot during the convention (I left as she was introduced.)

When I rejoined the breakfast after she finished yapping, they were lauding her as the voice of the party—first Tim Ryan sang her praises, then one of our state reps yapping about how Our Revolution is getting all these wins (NOT) and were totally responsible for the special election wins in VA, GA, etc. I wanted to puke.

The woman who thought about running as Jill Stein’s VP and refused to support Hillary in the general—she’s supposed to be telling Democrats what to do? Not THIS Democrat. Really ruined an otherwise good convention.

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teleskiguy  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:53:40pm

re: #323 Blind Frog Belly White

A lot of imaginary black guys out there, shooting people at really close range….

And kidnapping their kids

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Single-handed sailor  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:54:01pm

re: #320 teleskiguy

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As the bald eagle population continues to increase, we’re finding more birds poisoned by lead from spent ammunition. This eagle had to be rehabbed after they found it almost dead, x-ray showed it had swallowed a single lead pellet from spent bird shot.

They still allow lead shot in other states?

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The Major  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:54:52pm

re: #326 William Lewis

Now here’s a real non-anime version:

Katyusha (Катюша) - Aleksandr Marshal & Valeria Kurnushkina (2013)

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majii  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:54:58pm

re: #296 The Ghost of a Flea

“Why do they always go the extra step and make the fictional assailant brown? Why add that particular detail?”

First, they do it because they can. Second, they know the way the system works, and that for hundreds of years, it has worked in their favor and still does in most cases. They also know that the system is built so that some Americans’ are viewed as being more credible than other Americans in the same nation no matter what the Constitution states.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:58:38pm

I’ve posted about Naomi Wu @realSexyCyborg here several times, to highlight her troubles with the male-dominated maker (tech builder) culture and lately with a run-in with Vice magazine outing some of her personal details. Well, anyway, it seems I tweeted something wrong and she has blocked me on Twitter. No clue why, other than I was perhaps a little too snide in a recent reply to her. (To the effect of, I’m not on Twitter 24/7 so how would I know you’ve already answered this question several times before?)

I’m one of her supporters, and even sponsored her when she had a Patreon account. (Now suspended for Vice magazine-related reasons) So, I’m a little miffed.

Life goes on, nonetheless. I wish her the best.

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teleskiguy  Apr 21, 2018 • 7:59:19pm

re: #329 Single-handed sailor

They still allow lead shot in other states?

I’m not a hardcore gun person (though I own three firearms), so I’m not familiar with the minutiae of laws pertaining to ammunition composition. I did glean this from the article:

Lead ammunition was banned nationwide for waterfowl hunting in 1991.

In an effort to save their condor population, California implemented a ban that will phase out lead ammunition by 2019.

A day before the President Barack Obama left office, his administration issued an order that would phase out lead ammunition on federal wildlife refuges by 2022.

Under President Donald Trump’s administration, Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke reversed the order during his first day in office.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:01:14pm

re: #333 teleskiguy

If Obama had banned arsenic compounds in food, Trump’s crew would make it legal again. It’s how they work.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:02:49pm

re: #331 majii

Every once in awhile I just can’t wrap my head around this shit. No matter how cynical I am, or how steeped in the history and the sociology that describes the larger picture of how common it is. Even with having a dad that was racist.

336
Romantic Heretic  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:04:48pm

re: #314 Belafon

Give it time. We’re getting Alita. I don’t think the general public is ready for Akira or even Appleseed.

I’d like to see Gate done as a movie myself.

337
Romantic Heretic  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:05:32pm

re: #316 William Lewis

I want a live action “Girls Und Panzer”…




What?
< grinning, ducking & running >

Oh please! Oh please! Oh please!

338
De Kolta Chair  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:06:08pm

re: #333 teleskiguy

I think we can safely say Don Junior likes the taste of lead in his broiled gnu.

339
De Kolta Chair  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:10:18pm

“Donald’s World” by Mark Fredrickson

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majii  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:10:28pm

re: #335 The Ghost of a Flea

“Every once in awhile I just can’t wrap my head around this shit. No matter how cynical I am, or how steeped in the history and the sociology that describes the larger picture of how common it is. Even with having a dad that was racist.”

If you’re forced to live it and you’re never permitted to forget your 2nd Class status no matter how much you accomplish in your life and/or no matter how faithfully you follow the rules of this society, you know almost from birth how the system works and that there’s a high probability that it will rarely work in your favor.

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The Major  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:11:04pm

re: #314 Belafon

Pacific Rim was pretty close to being Evangelion or Betterman.

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teleskiguy  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:12:51pm
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petesh  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:14:12pm

re: #320 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

As the bald eagle population continues to increase, we’re finding more birds poisoned by lead from spent ammunition. This eagle had to be rehabbed after they found it almost dead, x-ray showed it had swallowed a single lead pellet from spent bird shot.

Great picture, sad story

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:14:59pm

re: #309 Belafon

Any connection to the 1924 USSR sci-fi melodrama Aelita: Queen of Mars?

Aelita 1920’s Russian Sci-fi film extract

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Jenner7  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:19:00pm
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BeachDem  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:21:33pm

re: #345 Jenner7

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I couldn’t listen to the banshee, but WTF is she wearing???

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Jenner7  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:23:01pm

re: #346 BeachDem

I dunno, but I’ve seen those kinds of sleeves all over the place.

348
wheat-dogg  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:25:52pm

re: #347 Jenner7

I dunno, but I’ve seen those kinds of sleeves all over the place.

It’s the latest fashion for women. It will soon pass.

349
Unshaken Defiance  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:26:10pm

re: #347 Jenner7

I dunno, but I’ve seen those kinds of sleeves all over the place.

Strikes me as a faux refugee / survivor thing.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:29:24pm

re: #345 Jenner7

The concept of the news network manipulating the authoritarian leader by addressing him is just…not what dystopian writers prepped us for. We were braced for a competent Big Brother, and what we got was Big Dumbass.

Marshall McLuhan and Baudrillard are laughing their asses off in Hell.

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BeachDem  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:30:24pm

re: #347 Jenner7

I dunno, but I’ve seen those kinds of sleeves all over the place.

But that is so fugly. Cold shoulder is one thing; wedding dress attacked by coyotes is something altogether different.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:34:17pm

re: #339 De Kolta Chair

My MAKA filter must be on too high. Is that a pic of two kitties?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:37:21pm

re: #349 Unshaken Defiance

Strikes me as a faux refugee / survivor thing.

You don’t have to live like a refugee.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:39:19pm

re: #353 Blind Frog Belly White

You don’t have to live like a refugee.

Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - Refugee

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De Kolta Chair  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:43:02pm

Nighty night lizards

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:44:59pm

re: #253 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Good to hear.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:46:22pm

I blame Rey’s costume in the new Star Wars movies for the wonky sleeve fashion.

How does she keep her sleeves up?
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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:46:55pm

re: #274 teleskiguy

My BIL said Jimi Hendrix

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:51:08pm

re: #347 Jenner7

I dunno, but I’ve seen those kinds of sleeves all over the place.

I refuse to buy anything with peek-a-boo shoulders but they are popular this year.

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wheat-dogg  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:51:58pm

it’s the interest that kills ya.

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teleskiguy  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:57:19pm
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De Kolta Chair  Apr 21, 2018 • 8:59:36pm

re: #357 wheat-dogg

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ Sleeves? What sleeves? ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 9:16:49pm

re: #341 The Major

Pacific Rim was pretty close to being Evangelion or Betterman.

I almost wrote that, but deleted it.

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majii  Apr 21, 2018 • 9:17:02pm

re: #358 Hecuba’s daughter

My BIL said Jimi Hendrix

I also think it’s Jimi Hendrix.

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teleskiguy  Apr 21, 2018 • 9:25:41pm

re: #364 majii

No! It’s Eddie Murphy!

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2018 • 9:28:57pm

re: #357 wheat-dogg

I blame Rey’s costume in the new Star Wars movies for the wonky sleeve fashion.

[Embedded content]

I think they’re arm wraps, not sleeves. A long strip of cloth wrapped around each arm.

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prairiefire  Apr 22, 2018 • 12:51:43am

...

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John Hughes  Apr 23, 2018 • 8:44:41am

re: #57 Backwoods_Sleuth

Those cops are armed and they are in physical contact with the people they’re trying to control.

Fucking amateurs.


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