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teleskiguy  Apr 27, 2018 • 9:17:59pm

How is this even possible? Am I reading this correctly, that Jeff Bezos made $5 billion *in one day*???

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 27, 2018 • 9:20:40pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 27, 2018 • 9:21:17pm
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freetoken  Apr 27, 2018 • 9:23:55pm

Getting back to that big WWE show in Saudi Arabia today, evidently it has provided the world with this memorable botch:

Anyway, reports say that during the airing (on WWE’s own streaming service) WWE actually put in Saudi propaganda videos, about how great life was in the Kingdom.

Money can buy anything.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 27, 2018 • 9:38:58pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

How is this even possible? Am I reading this correctly, that Jeff Bezos made $5 billion *in one day*???

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Clearly the time has come for Jeff Bezos to turn into Batman.

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freetoken  Apr 27, 2018 • 9:53:21pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

How is this even possible? Am I reading this correctly, that Jeff Bezos made $5 billion *in one day*???

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Jeff Bezos’ Fortune Gains $9 Billion In Two Days As Amazon Continues To Soar

Jeff Bezos, the world’s richest man and only centibillionaire, got $9 billion richer in two days.

As Amazon stock shot up, in large part thanks to a better-than-expected earnings report on Thursday, Bezos’ net worth rose with it. At the close of trading Friday, his net worth sat at $130.2 billion, according to Forbes’ Real-Time rankings of the world’s billionaires—less than $2 billion below his highest net worth ever, $132.1 billion, which he hit on March 12 of this year. His net worth was as high as $132.0 billion earlier in the day on Friday.

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teleskiguy  Apr 27, 2018 • 9:55:11pm

re: #6 freetoken

So Bezos is making more money in two days than Fuckface Von Clownstick’s entire net worth over the years? That’s… um… rich?

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freetoken  Apr 27, 2018 • 9:56:06pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

That’s why Trump hates Amazon. Bezos is a real billionaire, while Trump was only a fake one.

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teleskiguy  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:01:15pm

re: #8 freetoken

That and he owns The Washington Post, who happen to be the premier national journalism outlet actually doing work out there. NYT gets lucky here and there, they’re also good Fuckface Von Clownstick tongue bathers, know what I mean, Vern?

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KGxvi  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:02:42pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

How is this even possible? Am I reading this correctly, that Jeff Bezos made $5 billion *in one day*???

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In fairness that money doesn’t really exist. If he tried to liquidate his stock the price would drop dramatically. And since Amazon is publicly traded, he’d have to report any major sell of and the reasons for it.

He can sell some off for purchases if he really wanted to. But mostly it just lets him borrow more

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teleskiguy  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:03:47pm

I made maybe $50 today, and Jeff Bezos made $5 billion. I’m having a hard time wrapping my mind around this.

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KGxvi  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:05:03pm

re: #8 freetoken

That’s why Trump hates Amazon. Bezos is a real billionaire, while Trump was only a fake one.

Nah, Bezos is self made in a way that Trump can only pretend to be. That’s what annoys him most. Trump got his wealth the old fashioned way - his father and grandmother built it and he inherited it. And it’s all tied up in real estate. Bezos made his wealth by creating something new

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Ace-o-aces  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:05:07pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:05:12pm

re: #8 freetoken

That’s why Trump hates Amazon. Bezos is a real billionaire, while Trump was only a fake one.

That and because Bezos / Amazon is the face of the e-commerce trend that is destroying demand for retail commercial real estate. Because of that Trump’s net worth dropped $400 million last year.

He’s the most powerful man in the world and because he never diversified his holdings the world’s richest man is just drinking up his goddamned milkshake.

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Belafon  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:06:18pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

How is this even possible? Am I reading this correctly, that Jeff Bezos made $5 billion *in one day*???

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Because it’s not real money until he tries to cash it out. Monday, he could lose $10B, and would still be able to sleep at night because it’s not real money.

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KGxvi  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:06:55pm

re: #14 goddamnedfrank

That and because Bezos / Amazon is the face of the e-commerce trend that is destroying demand for retail commercial real estate. Because of that Trump’s net worth dropped $400 million last year.

He’s the most powerful man in the world and because he never diversified his holdings the world’s richest man is just drinking up his goddamned milkshake.

He tried to diversify his holdings but always put his name on it and in his primary market (the US) everyone knew it meant “cheap trying too hard to be classy and respectable”

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Targetpractice  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:07:47pm

Do I even need to point out the hilarity of using as your focus for the ol’ “teach a man to fish” parable the poster child for white entitlement? A rich asshole who has run the real estate empire his father left him into the ground and has been left bullshitting people into believing his name equals “success”?

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teleskiguy  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:07:48pm

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Belafon  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:15:04pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:16:35pm

I look at pictures like this and immediately I’m all like “I can fuckin’ do that!” And I can.

A line called “Pipeline” at Snowbird, Utah, today.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:17:12pm

re: #15 Belafon

Because it’s not real money until he tries to cash it out. Monday, he could lose $10B, and would still be able to sleep at night because it’s not real money.

Exactly, unrealized gains and losses aren’t making & losing money.

re: #16 KGxvi

He tried to diversify his holdings but always put his name on it and in his primary market (the US) everyone knew it meant “cheap trying too hard to be classy and respectable”

His problem is that he’s always gotten more of a thrill out of inflating his ego than his bottom line. If on Inauguration Day he’d put it all into almost any major index fund he’d be up around 20% right now.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:17:29pm

re: #1 teleskiguy

How is this even possible? Am I reading this correctly, that Jeff Bezos made $5 billion *in one day*???

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And yet Amazon has never broken even one year yet, has it? Another bubble ready to burst.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:18:30pm

re: #8 freetoken

That’s why Trump hates Amazon. Bezos is a real billionaire, while Trump was only a fake one.

“I’m not a rich guy, but I play one on TV”.

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Belafon  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:18:37pm

It seems that the chaplain wasn’t praying to Mammon:

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:19:34pm

re: #10 KGxvi

In fairness that money doesn’t really exist. If he tried to liquidate his stock the price would drop dramatically. And since Amazon is publicly traded, he’d have to report any major sell of and the reasons for it.

He can sell some off for purchases if he really wanted to. But mostly it just lets him borrow more

Blue Origin is financed by selling $1 billion worth of Amazon stock a year.

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Belafon  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:22:01pm

re: #22 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

From February:

recode.net

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:22:01pm

re: #18 teleskiguy

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“Anyone guilty of golf should be shot.”

__H. L. Mencken

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teleskiguy  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:22:30pm

re: #22 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And yet Amazon has never broken even one year yet, has it? Another bubble ready to burst.

Their operating costs have always been through the roof, I’m pretty sure they’ve lost money quarterly more than they’ve gained. Nope. And yet they’re considered a vanguard company, right up there with General Electric.

Business confuses me. Other than basic life shit (which ski passes and rock concerts figure into, ‘cause you have to enjoy life right?), I’ve never cared about money.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:24:58pm

re: #26 Belafon

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Thanks—I hadn’t been paying attention for a while. Everybody was always wondering why the stock kept going up and up when they’d never broken even. I guess they finally did.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:28:44pm

re: #24 Belafon

It seems that the chaplain wasn’t praying to Mammon:

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Honestly how is there even a House Chaplain? That shit is such a flagrant Article 6 Section 3 violation.

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Belafon  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:29:21pm

re: #29 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Thanks—I hadn’t been paying attention for a while. Everybody was always wondering why the stock kept going up and up when they’d never broken even. I guess they finally did.

I think their stock is overvalued, and I like the company because of a few things they are good at, like being able to get books that you can’t get through physical stores and allowing third party sellers to use their site.

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teleskiguy  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:30:59pm

re: #27 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Harsh, but fair.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:31:26pm

re: #31 Belafon

I think their stock is overvalued, and I like the company because of a few things they are good at, like being able to get books that you can’t get through physical stores and allowing third party sellers to use their site.

P/E ratio is 255:1, so yeah.

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teleskiguy  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:34:19pm

I’m begrudgingly posting this here.

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I cannot.  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:36:22pm

re: #29 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s profitable, but its still insanely expensive. It’s still bubbly, but it’s an actual company with real profits, the next step is to see whether it crashes back to a reasonable value, or whether it grows to fit what it’s currently currently valued at.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:39:45pm

re: #30 goddamnedfrank

Honestly how is there even a House Chaplain? That shit is such a flagrant Article 6 Section 3 violation.

“The Chaplain of the United States House of Representatives is one of the officers of the United States House of Representatives. The House cites the first half of Article 1, Section 2, Clause 5 in the United States Constitution as giving it the authority to elect a Chaplain, “The House of Representatives shall choose their speaker and other officers”.[1]

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:40:37pm

re: #36 Eclectic Cyborg

“The Chaplain of the United States House of Representatives is one of the officers of the United States House of Representatives. The House cites the first half of Article 1, Section 2, Clause 5 in the United States Constitution as giving it the authority to elect a Chaplain, “The House of Representatives shall choose their speaker and other officers”.[1]

The Senate has a Chaplain too.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:44:51pm

re: #30 goddamnedfrank

Honestly how is there even a House Chaplain? That shit is such a flagrant Article 6 Section 3 violation.

Eric Burdon and The Animals Sky Pilot Video original rare video

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:46:02pm

re: #36 Eclectic Cyborg

“The Chaplain of the United States House of Representatives is one of the officers of the United States House of Representatives. The House cites the first half of Article 1, Section 2, Clause 5 in the United States Constitution as giving it the authority to elect a Chaplain, “The House of Representatives shall choose their speaker and other officers”.[1]

Still violates Article 6 Section 3 religious test proscription under any reasonable interpretation. It’s no accident that every single House Chaplain has been some flavor of Christian.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:51:26pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

Still violates Article 6 Section 3 religious test proscription under any reasonable interpretation. It’s no accident that every single House Chaplain has been some flavor of Christian.

Not disagreeing with you but:

“In 1983, the Supreme Court upheld the practice of having an official chaplain as deeply ingrained in the history and tradition of this country. They stated the ultimate authority for the position lies in the Constitution which states that the House and Senate may each choose their officers, with no restrictions on what kind of officers may be chosen. Using that authority, both chambers have chosen to continue to elect an officer to act as Chaplain.[11]”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:56:59pm

re: #39 goddamnedfrank

Still violates Article 6 Section 3 religious test proscription under any reasonable interpretation. It’s no accident that every single House Chaplain has been some flavor of Christian.

I read that they gut upset with the chaplain they fired because he let an Imam hold the daily prayers one morning.

It should be the job of any Christian chaplain to hold the line against creeping Sharia.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 27, 2018 • 10:59:47pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 27, 2018 • 11:00:01pm

This thread from Tom Nichols strikes me as right on the money. Click through and read the thread.

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freetoken  Apr 27, 2018 • 11:01:19pm

re: #24 Belafon

This is a really, REALLY bad look for Ryan.

Ryan doesn’t care because it doesn’t matter.

His sugar daddies got what they wanted.

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Kragar  Apr 27, 2018 • 11:05:29pm
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wheat-dogg  Apr 27, 2018 • 11:07:09pm

re: #45 Kragar

Abysm? Is that like an abyssal chasm? Or a chasmic abyss?

And I learned a new word.

merriam-webster.com

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 27, 2018 • 11:07:47pm

re: #45 Kragar

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This Peterson MoMo has taken Newt Gingrich’s mantle as “A stupid person’s idea of what a smart person sounds like”. What a cretin!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 27, 2018 • 11:10:12pm

re: #45 Kragar

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Smells like bullshit to me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 27, 2018 • 11:12:11pm

re: #46 wheat-dogg

Abysm? Is that like an abyssal chasm? Or a chasmic abyss?

And I learned a new word.

merriam-webster.com

I knew “abysmal” but never though of what it would be derived from.

I do not discuss atheism any more than I discuss matters of belief in God unless I have a personal interest in someone. Because they are personal and subjective matters.

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Single-handed sailor  Apr 27, 2018 • 11:13:42pm

re: #38 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

6 degrees of separation from that song led me to this

Zaouli dance natural trance

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 27, 2018 • 11:16:31pm

re: #49 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I knew “abysmal” but never though of what it would be derived from.

I do not discuss atheism any more than I discuss matters of belief in God unless I have a personal interest in someone. Because they are personal and subjective matters.

I think “abyss” is the only Sumerian loan word in English. Apsu was the void underneath the Earth.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 27, 2018 • 11:19:06pm

re: #38 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I recall when there were still “underground” FM radio stations in Chicago that played songs not heard on the radio charts, whole album sides, Firesign Theater and National Lampoon Radio hour skits, eetc.

I recall hearing Sky Pilot one late at night.

along with this song:

Gene Clark - No Other

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 27, 2018 • 11:20:09pm

re: #51 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I think “abyss” is the only Sumerian loan word in English. Apsu was the void underneath the Earth.

It all makes sense now:

ABBA is then “The Band That Returns From the Abyss”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 27, 2018 • 11:24:37pm

re: #52 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recall when there were still “underground” FM radio stations in Chicago that played songs not heard on the radio charts, whole album sides, Firesign Theater and National Lampoon Radio hour skits, eetc.

I recall hearing Sky Pilot one late at night.

along with this song:

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They used to play this long version of Sky Pilot on KOL-FM: “Seattle’s only Underground Rock™ Station! We play the music THEY don’t want you to hear!”

I finally figured out the songs THEY didn’t want us to hear were any songs longer than three minutes….

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I cannot.  Apr 27, 2018 • 11:25:32pm

re: #45 Kragar

The comments on that page are so much pseudo-to-semi-intellectual self-important dipshittery.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 27, 2018 • 11:25:55pm

OK, watched The Last Jedi

Needed more lens flare

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 27, 2018 • 11:31:07pm

re: #54 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They used to play this long version of Sky Pilot on KOL-FM: “Seattle’s only Underground Rock™ Station! We play the music THEY don’t want you to hear!”

I finally figured out the songs THEY didn’t want us to hear were any songs longer than three minutes….

It had little to do with what THEY wanted us to hear or not: most mainstream stations had a strict format of songs from the pop charts.

I recall WXRT in Chicago playing entire album-side jams by the Allman Brothers or Emerson, Lake & Palmer, I found that impressive. Songs that would never, ever make the charts.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 27, 2018 • 11:31:34pm

re: #56 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, watched The Last Jedi

Needed more lens flare

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Is lens flare the new “Artistic Cinematography” in succession to “pillowcase over the lens”?

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Kragar  Apr 27, 2018 • 11:31:44pm

re: #56 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, watched The Last Jedi

Needed more lens flare

//

Why are you using gravity bombers in space?

Why did you introduce an item which lets Rey track the Rebel fleet’s location thru hyperspace, then act shocked that the Imperial were able to track the Rebel fleet thru hyperspace?

Why did you have the only significant action your “heroes” make after an hour of movie time was bring in the traitor who ended up making sure the rebel survivors were decimated in space?

Yeah, I had issues with it.

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I cannot.  Apr 27, 2018 • 11:50:06pm

re: #59 Kragar

Why are the bombers utter shit when compared to outdated garbage like the Y-Wing and B-Wing?

If Holdo had a suicide plan, why not just TELL Poe something so he wouldn’t do the whole mutiny sub-plot. If they were worried about Poe fcking off to tell the First Order about their course that was pointless…BECAUSE THEY WERE BEING TRACKED AND EVERYONE KNEW.

Having said that, Holdo’s plan worked for dramatic reasons. The theater went as quiet as the film.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:05:15am

re: #45 Kragar

The American Conservative

@amconmag
“If you think you are an atheist you are wrong, says Peterson, because your mind has been bent and shaped and molded by a god-fearing past stretching back into the unfathomable abysm of time.”

by this logic, if you think you are a christian you are wrong, because your mind has been bent and shaped and moulded by a pagan, goddess worshipping past stretching back many aeons before christianity or even monotheism was ever thought of

and if you think pagan religion was anything like that post jesus invention, the drama of original sin and salvation from eternal torture by the unearned grace given by god out of pure compassion, you gots another thing coming, binky

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:40:11am

re: #61 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Christians do not like to admit how much outright pagainsm they co-opted in order to make their message more palatable to the masses.

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Chad Thundercock  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:41:12am

re: #45 Kragar

I’ve only recently become aware of that logorrheic humbug and already I’m tired of him.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:13:23am

re: #18 teleskiguy

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garzooma  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:28:49am

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

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@McNaughtonArt
My new painting, “Teach a Man a Fish.”

You probably don’t want to bring up teaching when you’re talking about a guy who ran a scam university.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:30:25am

re: #65 garzooma

You probably don’t want to bring up teaching when you’re talking about a guy who ran a scam university.

“This is a hook. You put a little bait on the hook. Then you see if you get bites. Lesson over. That will be $30,000….”

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jeffreyw  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:52:14am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Aussie Apocalypse  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:10:18am

re: #3 goddamnedfrank
It feels like this was originally meant to be a chess scene.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:31:25am

he’s upset

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:38:57am

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Trump said Thursday that Tester will have a “big price to pay” for his part in working to sink Jackson’s nomination. But Tester is sanguine about his decision to go public with accusations about Jackson’s workplace misconduct, poor prescription practices and drinking on the job.

“If he thinks it’s my job to sweep his stuff under the table and ignore our military folks, he’s wrong. If he thinks I should not be sticking up for veterans, he’s wrong,” Tester said Thursday of the president. “I look forward to working with President Trump. I’ve worked with him many times in the past, but we disagree.”

politico.com

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:43:19am

This is hilarious.

An architecture expert reveals 19 of the ugliest McMansions in America

Everyone with an ounce of taste likes to mock mcmansions, the giant, pretentious, stylistically illiterate, and cheaply made cookie cutter houses that spread like a fungus across newly developed ‘burbs from coast to coast. The mid-90s were the heyday of mcmansions, but they are still alive (though not well).
You could almost feel guilty for ridiculing them and their clueless owners, except that they are so deserving of ridicule.

Two of the worst are in Texas. They look like the sort of place where a Trumpite politician might live:
Fort Bend County:

Rockwall:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:47:52am

re: #71 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“Pringles Can of Shame”

:D

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:50:45am
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:50:55am

re: #71 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Oy. Don’t these people watch This Old House? Even For Your Home has nicer houses than those.
::: shudder :::

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Teukka  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:53:55am

Nightmare fuel…

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William Lewis  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:54:09am

re: #56 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

OK, watched The Last Jedi

Needed more lens flare

//

Watched it finally this weekend with my son. Excellent movie with it wonderfully understanding that:

1) No bloodline is that important
2) No, you can’t just jump in an x-wing and blow poo up
3) The most critical scene in the movie is the last one.

This moves into #4 on my Star Wars list. (IV, V, Rogue One, VIII, VII, VI, III, II, I)

With the second trailer, I have high hopes for Solo as well.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:56:52am

re: #71 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

re: #74 PhillyPretzel

These are tiny houses but they have a lot more style then those McMansions:
tumbleweedhouses.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:58:24am
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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:58:29am

re: #67 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Nice bright red on the cardinal checking out the camera.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:59:45am

heh

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:01:54am

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

he’s upset

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If Ronny Jackson is so clean why did he withdraw and why did Donny not back him and more or less suggest he not go through the process?

Deep state…fake news…no collusion…

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:05:38am

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Interesting. I’m watching qualifying for the Grand Prix of Azerbaijan right now. No mention of a fire, and the race is right downtown. I’ll have to keep an eye on the sky as the cars go around the course…maybe we get some overhead shots of the city.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:09:02am

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

he’s upset

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Yep I knew he would go after Tester. Sad thing is it might work in Montana.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:10:36am

re: #74 PhillyPretzel

Oy. Don’t these people watch This Old House? Even For Your Home has nicer houses than those.
::: shudder :::

The worst part is that these atrocities cost a fortune. At one time, wealthy people were expected to have at least a modicum of artistic knowledge. Even if they were new to the manor, they could learn the basics in less time that it took to have a house built. Now, though, “more money than sense” really is the norm.
Fortunately, most of these will not last long. That may be just my own prejudice, since I have a strong preference for old houses. My current one, built in 1907, is the oldest and best yet, though probably too large for just me. My daughter calls it “the museum” since she asserts that I actually live in the nearby garage and workshop.

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jeffreyw  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:12:20am

re: #79 ObserverArt

Nice bright red on the cardinal checking out the camera.

They are pretty birds.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:17:53am

re: #84 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I live in a tiny row house in Philly. It was built after WW2. It has a postage stamp lawn in the front and a strip of grass in the back. My old car (it needs lots of work) is back there too. It looks like the others in the area because that is how they built them. My parents house was a twin with a straight-through floor plan. It was very nice and it had central air. These are nice houses.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:19:42am

Good Saturday Morning Everyone!

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fern01  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:23:56am

re: #37 Eclectic Cyborg

The Senate has a Chaplain too.

And no-one in the congress takes any notice whatsoever of the values of Christianity - so it’s hard to understand why they bother.

At least the chaplain who was fired knew the reality of this soulless congress.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:25:21am

re: #88 fern01

And no-one in the congress takes any notice whatsoever of the values of Christianity - so it’s hard to understand why they bother.

At least the chaplain who was fired knew the reality of this soulless congress.

They bother because putting on the appearance of holiness is important to their electability. If they stopped trying to look like Christians on the outside, eventually the evangelicals would catch on (notice I said eventually), and their power base would evaporate.

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fern01  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:29:25am

re: #89 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

They bother because putting on the appearance of holiness is important to their electability. If they stopped trying to look like Christians on the outside, eventually the evangelicals would catch on (notice I said eventually), and their power base would evaporate.

Given the evangelicals accepted an adulterer thrice married as their savior - I doubt they will EVER leave the current version of the republican party. Only thing that might force them away would be if the GOP nominated a black man for President.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:31:59am

re: #90 fern01

Given the evangelicals accepted an adulterer thrice married as their savior - I doubt they will EVER leave the current version of the republican party. Only thing that might force them away would be if the GOP nominated a black man for President.

No, they would leave eventually. See, despite being a man-slut, it’s important to realize that Trump is still pretending to be a pious man. Remember the comment from Franklin Graham that “Trump hasn’t sinned since he took office”? That’s the attitude they take - as long as they’re putting in the effort, they get the reward. He’s keeping his immorality on the down-low right now. If he was flaunting it, waving infidelity in their faces on a daily basis, I think it’d be a different story. They’d start with the “sincere but deeply flawed” storyline, but they couldn’t keep that pretense up forever.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:32:02am

still watching the teevee…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:32:36am

re: #90 fern01

Given the evangelicals accepted an adulterer thrice married as their savior - I doubt they will EVER leave the current version of the republican party. Only thing that might force them away would be if the GOP nominated a black man for President.

Diamond/Silk 2020!!

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William Lewis  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:33:01am

re: #89 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

They bother because putting on the appearance of holiness is important to their electability. If they stopped trying to look like Christians on the outside, eventually the evangelicals would catch on (notice I said eventually), and their power base would evaporate.

I’m not so sure. The evangelical movement has become so deeply dependent upon gaining and maintaining secular power that they can pretend Trumpenfuhrer is a Christian. The whole idea of “winning” the culture war that they’ve already lost has twisted them beyond recovery, I fear. Hence they give out cheap grace to anyone who mouths their dogmas irregardless of their actual beliefs and behaviors. The base loves them for this because it lets them be nasty racist SOB’s and feel as if they actually were Christian. They won’t give that up willingly.

Remember how the Germans could ignore the camps murdering people right outside their villages until the US came along and forced them to march through the camps and look upon the works they really performed. That’s the mindset of the Evangelical base.

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fern01  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:33:18am

re: #91 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

No, they would leave eventually. See, despite being a man-slut, it’s important to realize that Trump is still pretending to be a pious man. Remember the comment from Franklin Graham that “Trump hasn’t sinned since he took office”? That’s the attitude they take - as long as they’re putting in the effort, they get the reward. He’s keeping his immorality on the down-low right now. If he was flaunting it, waving infidelity in their faces on a daily basis, I think it’d be a different story. They’d start with the “sincere but deeply flawed” storyline, but they couldn’t keep that pretense up forever.

I doubt I’ll live to see it - but I hope you are right

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:33:18am

Right wing evangelicals just want someone to kiss their ass. That’s why someone like Father Conroy was no longer acceptable to House Republicans.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:33:19am

re: #89 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

They bother because putting on the appearance of holiness is important to their electability. If they stopped trying to look like Christians on the outside, eventually the evangelicals would catch on (notice I said eventually), and their power base would evaporate.

Remember when it was taught Christians were judged by their works and that it was bad to put on public displays declaring how Christian you are?

Seems so long ago.

Now everyone down on your knees and pray to the Golden Trump.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:33:24am

re: #45 Kragar

The American Conservative

@amconmag
“If you think you are an atheist you are wrong, says Peterson, because your mind has been bent and shaped and molded by a god-fearing past stretching back into the unfathomable abysm of time.” theam.cn
10:30 PM - Apr 26, 2018

Maybe Bill Maher should have spent a little time reading more about Jordan Peterson before having him on the show a couple weeks ago and lavishly praising his point of view.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:34:50am

re: #92 Backwoods_Sleuth

still watching the teevee…

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It’s like this bad dream when your crazy Uncle who does nothing but watch FNC for his information somehow becomes President. That’s the Trump Presidency in a nutshell. Well and the corruption. Crazy Uncle wouldn’t be as corrupt as Trump perhaps not intentionally anyhow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:36:06am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:37:02am

re: #98 Hecuba’s daughter

Maybe Bill Maher should have spent a little time reading more about Jordan Peterson before having him on the show a couple weeks ago and lavishly praising his point of view.

From what I understand about Peterson, he’s another one of these MRA asshole types that seem to have been growing in recent years. As for what he said about atheism. He couldn’t be more wrong. I’m agnostic in good part because I was allowed to come ot my own understanding of religion and life’s questions. The best thing you can to is not to force religion on a child. Let him or her see the world around them and make their own decisions in the end.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:37:25am

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Actually, as far as I’ve been able to ascertain, the one and only thing this administration is consistent on is, “What’s the next thing the black guy did that we can undo?”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:37:35am

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:38:12am

re: #102 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Actually, as far as I’ve been able to ascertain, the one and only thing this administration is consistent on is, “What’s the next thing the black guy did that we can undo?”

He’d probably bring back Bin Laden from the dead and let him loose just so he could try to kill him and take credit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:38:17am
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fern01  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:39:04am

re: #99 HappyWarrior

It’s like this bad dream when your crazy Uncle who does nothing but watch FNC for his information somehow becomes President. That’s the Trump Presidency in a nutshell. Well and the corruption. Crazy Uncle wouldn’t be as corrupt as Trump perhaps not intentionally anyhow.

Like so many - I find it impossible to believe that this imbecile who attacks political opponents via immature language on twitter is the president* of the USA. I keep thinking I’ll wake up from this ridiculous dream. That there is a political party, in the majority in congress, that supports such behavior is beyond sanity.

The USA is being led by madmen - but you all know that.

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William Lewis  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:40:25am

Off to work. Time to bust my ass for nowhere near enough. Later folks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:40:58am
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fern01  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:41:06am

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:44:15am

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

They still have not learned the lesson of earning respect.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:44:55am

re: #108 Backwoods_Sleuth

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TBH I don’t give a shit how they feel. They’re always mocking liberals and “SJWs” for feeling too much. Listen you CHOSE to embrace an unqualified bigoted opportunist who has no idea what he’s doing.

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steve_davis  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:45:12am

re: #1 teleskiguy

How is this even possible? Am I reading this correctly, that Jeff Bezos made $5 billion *in one day*???

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remember, it’s only a paper gain. he’ still living in a banana crate in the warehouse district in Seattle.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:46:05am
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Dizzy  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:46:07am
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:46:32am

re: #111 HappyWarrior

TBH I don’t give a shit how they feel. They’re always mocking liberals and “SJWs” for feeling too much. Listen you CHOSE to embrace an unqualified bigoted opportunist who has no idea what he’s doing.

I remind our audience (and I really wish we could remind these fuckers) that they were the ones to launch the “Fuck Your Feelings” campaign.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:47:26am

re: #112 steve_davis

remember, it’s only a paper gain. he’ still living in a banana crate in the warehouse district in Seattle.

Nah, he’s moved down to Kent now. I’m 20 blocks south of Blue Origin, and Amazon’s new headquarters is 20 blocks west of that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:47:26am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:48:13am

re: #115 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I remind our audience (and I really wish we could remind these fuckers) that they were the ones to launch the “Fuck Your Feelings” campaign.

Yep and they also like people like Shapiro who has famously said that the facts don’t care about your feelings. Well, here’s some facts, Trump is an ignorant asshole about the world around us. You elected him. I won’t go out of my way to be hostile to you just because you’re a Trump supporter but if you’re going to start whining about liberals being mean to you, I’ll gladly remind you how you didn’t care when Trump created a Nuremberg like atmosphere with his rallies.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:48:32am

re: #91 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

No, they would leave eventually. See, despite being a man-slut, it’s important to realize that Trump is still pretending to be a pious man. Remember the comment from Franklin Graham that “Trump hasn’t sinned since he took office”? That’s the attitude they take - as long as they’re putting in the effort, they get the reward. He’s keeping his immorality on the down-low right now. If he was flaunting it, waving infidelity in their faces on a daily basis, I think it’d be a different story. They’d start with the “sincere but deeply flawed” storyline, but they couldn’t keep that pretense up forever.

From my perspective, he has done nothing but sin since he took office. It is not adultery that is his real sin, but his denial of climate change, his repeal of every regulation designed to save the planet or help the poor, his personal corruption and that of practically everyone in his administration, his misogyny, his racism. What about bearing false witness? What about almost every other commandment? His unleashing the military without concern for “collateral” damage and his denial of refuge to those fleeing tyranny certainly must violate “Thou shalt not murder” commandment. Do the evangelicals actually care about the ten commandments at all?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:49:09am

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Conroy is not only more of a Catholic than Ryan will ever be, he’s more of a man than Ryan will ever be.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:51:38am

re: #114 Dizzy

…Emmanuel Macron’s speech to a joint session of Congress, @EJDionne writes, was “a full-scale takedown of Trumpism, wrapped in a love letter to the United States and a call on Americans to live up to the values embedded in our own history.”

We never have, but our sanctimonious preaching over the years has had an effect—I consider the United States the most successful scam of the do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do type in history. But now we’re pissing that away.

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Dizzy  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:56:49am

re: #121 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

We never have, but our sanctimonious preaching over the years has had an effect—I consider the United States the most successful scam of the do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do type in history. But now we’re pissing that away.

I’m not sure I agree that the U.S. has never lived up to the values in her history, but at least those values are codified. From an outsiders perspective (I’m Canadian) I do agree that the U.S. is pissing away those values very quickly now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:57:07am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:57:07am

Ryan sold his final ounce of political capital to force a man who is widely known and respected for his ability to treat people of all faiths out of his job. I know it sounds wrong but I detest so much of what Evangelicals in this country stand for. I detest their blatant hypocrisy. I detest a lot of their ministers living like fucking celebrities and having their congregations subsidize that lifestyle. I detest their homophobia and attacks on those who don’t share their views. I detest them playing victim over things like same sex marriage being legal. I detest their shaming of liberals for embracing our LGBT and non-Christian friends while worshipping Trump But most of all, I detest their politicization of religion as a tool to attack people.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:57:59am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:59:30am

re: #125 Belafon

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To phrase from Office and Space, what exactly do Diamond and Silk do other than be the only two black women in the country that support Trump to the end?

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:01:55am

re: #124 HappyWarrior

Ryan sold his final ounce of political capital to force a man who is widely known and respected for his ability to treat people of all faiths out of his job. I know it sounds wrong but I detest so much of what Evangelicals in this country stand for. I detest their blatant hypocrisy. I detest a lot of their ministers living like fucking celebrities and having their congregations subsidize that lifestyle. I detest their homophobia and attacks on those who don’t share their views. I detest them playing victim over things like same sex marriage being legal. I detest their shaming of liberals for embracing our LGBT and non-Christian friends while worshipping Trump But most of all, I detest their politicization of religion as a tool to attack people.

Nope — my guess is that most Republicans in Congress were offended by a chaplain who was not in support of the “Prosperity Gospel”. The non-Catholic Republicans were offended by a Catholic holding the post. Ryan never has any political capital with the Democrats.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:05:03am

re: #127 Hecuba’s daughter

Nope — my guess is that most Republicans in Congress were offended by a chaplain who was not in support of the “Prosperity Gospel”. The non-Catholic Republicans were offended by a Catholic holding the post. Ryan never has any political capital with the Democrats.

True. God I hate the prosperity gospel bullshit. I’m not Christian but you know what a lot of older members of my family were and that shit went against everything they believed. There’s nothing wrong with success but the prosperity gospel is basically “I can be a greedy prick and God loves me.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:05:17am

The 12th District, shaped like an elongated letter C, runs from Mansfield to the northern Columbus suburbs, then stretches eastward to Zanesville and southern Muskingum County. The district long has been represented by a certain kind of Republican. Before he became governor, John Kasich won the seat in 1982, then passed it in 2001 to Tiberi, who had worked in Kasich’s office.

Tiberi’s retirement to run a lobbying group of Ohio CEOs leaves an opening to rebrand the district. Will it continue to be represented by moderate, establishment Republicans, or will it trend toward grassroots conservatives? Will Democrats find a candidate who can galvanize moderate Republicans and Trump opponents and try to turn the district blue for the first time since the early 1980s?

Anything could happen, experts say. Cook Political Report, a leading source of analysis on congressional races, on Friday labeled the district a “toss-up.”. The race is likely to attract national attention and spending as Democrats seek to take control of Congress.

Eighteen Republicans and Democrats are vying for the seat. Most are running both to finish Tiberi’s term this year and to win the seat for the 2019-2020 term. The primary for both races is May 8. The top Republican and the top Democrat will face off Aug. 7 for the rest of Tiberi’s term and Nov. 6 for the 2019-2020 term.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:10:55am

re: #129 Backwoods_Sleuth

Eighteen Republicans and Democrats are vying for the seat. Most are running both to finish Tiberi’s term this year and to win the seat for the 2019-2020 term. The primary for both races is May 8. The top Republican and the top Democrat will face off Aug. 7 for the rest of Tiberi’s term and Nov. 6 for the 2019-2020 term.

Another reason to hate Rick Snyder. Republicans really don’t believe in democracy; you can bet if Conyers were a Republican there would have been an election to replace him months ago

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:10:56am

re: #88 fern01

And no-one in the congress takes any notice whatsoever of the values of Christianity - so it’s hard to understand why they bother.

At least the chaplain who was fired knew the reality of this soulless congress.

Well they gotta have the appearance of doing the right thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:10:56am

hahahahahaa…such snowflakes

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:12:36am

re: #132 Backwoods_Sleuth

hahahahahaa…such snowflakes

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Uh no. And if you actually believed that, you’d actually be doing something to keep guns out of people like that hand’s rather than being okay with it. You’re just scared that your time is up. BTW Mo, how do you enjoy having a Democrat from the Senate in Alabama? Bet it feels good!

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:14:23am

re: #124 HappyWarrior

Ryan sold his final ounce of political capital to force a man who is widely known and respected for his ability to treat people of all faiths out of his job. I know it sounds wrong but I detest so much of what Evangelicals in this country stand for. I detest their blatant hypocrisy. I detest a lot of their ministers living like fucking celebrities and having their congregations subsidize that lifestyle. I detest their homophobia and attacks on those who don’t share their views. I detest them playing victim over things like same sex marriage being legal. I detest their shaming of liberals for embracing our LGBT and non-Christian friends while worshipping Trump But most of all, I detest their politicization of religion as a tool to attack people.

Isn’t Ryan Catholic too? He’s Irish/German…so it’s not like he hasn’t been taught what the chaplain was saying in his prayer.

He obviously doesn’t care about the religious aspects of what was in the prayer. So, in a way it is not about religion at all…just like it is not with the evangelicals.

What pissed off Ryan was the chaplain is making him look bad. That shows Ryan is uncomfortable and must know he is screwing real people over, but he just does not care.

We are seeing Paul Ryan sell his last bit of any dignity. He will run off now, count his money, live off his government entitlements and slink away knowing he is a snake.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:14:55am

re: #128 HappyWarrior

True. God I hate the prosperity gospel bullshit. I’m not Christian but you know what a lot of older members of my family were and that shit went against everything they believed. There’s nothing wrong with success but the prosperity gospel is basically “I can be a greedy prick and God loves me.”

Actually it’s worse than that. It certainly appears that they believe that being wealthy shows that God loves you and that being poor shows that God does not approve of you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:15:41am

heh

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:15:59am

re: #134 ObserverArt

Isn’t Ryan Catholic too? He’s Irish/German…so it’s not like he hasn’t been taught what the chaplain was saying in his prayer.

He obviously doesn’t care about the religious aspects of what was in the prayer. So, in a way it is not about religion at all…just like it is not with the evangelicals.

What pissed off Ryan was the chaplain is making him look bad. That shows Ryan is uncomfortable and must know he is screwing real people over, but he just does not care.

We are seeing Paul Ryan sell his last bit of any dignity. He will run off now, count his money, live off his government entitlements and slink away knowing he is a snake.

Ryan’s god is Ayn Rand. So he’s following his true religion.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:18:16am

I am no prosperity Gospel person. God blesses me, I use those blessings to help others in need. I don’t hoard it all for myself while screaming “Thank you Jesus!!”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:18:36am

re: #135 Hecuba’s daughter

Actually it’s worse than that. It certainly appears that they believe that being wealthy shows that God loves you and that being poor shows that God does not approve of you.

Calvinists have been saying just exactly that for about 450 years. They said it in their inside voices for a century and a half or so here, but now they’re loud and proud again….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:18:54am
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Barefoot Grin  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:18:56am

If Ryan had experience doing service on behalf of others as Tim Kaine has he would … well, he’d probably be a Democrat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:19:40am

watch out Michigan…

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:20:16am

re: #129 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That is a wild contest and has some real bottom dwellers in it.

That district (OH12) covers some big money areas of Columbus too. Actually all the areas Tiberi has in the Columbus Metro area are hi-dollar. The rest is gerrymander sections of several counties that are pretty much all White, small town Ohio to the north and east of Columbus.

Almost impossible for a Democrat to win it. Also Kasich’s old district.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:20:37am

re: #135 Hecuba’s daughter

Actually it’s worse than that. It certainly appears that they believe that being wealthy shows that God loves you and that being poor shows that God does not approve of you.

So in other words: “Fuck that ‘Blessed are the meek’ shit!”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:21:06am

re: #138 Eclectic Cyborg

I am no prosperity Gospel person. God blesses me, I use those blessings to help others in need. I don’t hoard it all for myself while screaming “Thank you Jesus!!”

The Prosperity Gospel advocates apparently did not learn the lesson of the rich young ruler. That parable, by the way, does not mean that Christians cannot be wealthy; the real lesson is that we are not supposed to be attached to our wealth. Having money is fine, as long as you are responsible and generous.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:21:49am

re: #139 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Calvinists have been saying just exactly that for about 450 years. They said it in their inside voices for a century and a half or so here, but now they’re loud and proud again….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:22:39am

re: #145 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The Prosperity Gospel advocates apparently did not learn the lesson of the rich young ruler. That parable, by the way, does not mean that Christians cannot be wealthy; the real lesson is that we are not supposed to be attached to our wealth. Having money is fine, as long as you are responsible and generous.

Agreed. There’s a church around here that’s been having financial issues but that apparently didn’t stop the senior pastor from buying himself a new boat…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:25:00am

re: #147 Eclectic Cyborg

Agreed. There’s a church around here that’s been having financial issues but that apparently didn’t stop the senior pastor from buying himself a new boat…

I attended the local megachurch for a while, which is a big proponent of the Prosperity Gospel (for obvious reasons). When the recession hit, their budget dried up a little bit, but the head pastor delivered a long and impassioned sermon about how important the private plane was to the church’s ministry and to him personally, but about how he would generously sell it if it was necessary to keep the rest of the ministries going. It was at that point that Mrs. Fish and I walked out.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:26:15am

re: #141 Barefoot Grin

If Ryan had experience doing service on behalf of others as Tim Kaine has he would … well, he’d probably be a Democrat.

That’s the big difference between Catholic economic lefties and Catholic economic conservatives.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:27:03am

re: #135 Hecuba’s daughter

Actually it’s worse than that. It certainly appears that they believe that being wealthy shows that God loves you and that being poor shows that God does not approve of you.

Yeah it’s awful.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:31:44am

So how come about a quarter of my YouTube recommendations are in Turkish this morning? WTH?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:32:24am

re: #151 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

So how come about a quarter of my YouTube recommendations are in Turkish this morning? WTH?

How much of last night do you remember?

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I cannot.  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:39:37am

re: #146 Dr Lizardo

Wait for us!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:48:01am

re: #135 Hecuba’s daughter

Actually it’s worse than that. It certainly appears that they believe that being wealthy shows that God loves you and that being poor shows that God does not approve of you.

“Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:48:14am

Yawn. Needs mah coffee.
You guys see this?

‘Mass firing’ at conservative site RedState

Multiple sources told CNNMoney that they believed conservative critics of President Trump were the writers targeted for removal.
“Insufficiently partisan” was the phrase one writer used in a RedState group chat.

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retired cynic  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:49:24am

re: #79 ObserverArt

Nice bright red on the cardinal checking out the camera.

Here an hour north of St Louis, had the first stray hummingbird yesterday, and an abrupt influx of goldfinches this morning.

On a not-unrelated topic, the raccoons are getting better at climbing slick poles to achieve mealworm nirvana.

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steve_davis  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:51:23am

re: #51 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I think “abyss” is the only Sumerian loan word in English. Apsu was the void underneath the Earth.

not quite. the sumerians also gave us the phrase “casual Fridays.”

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:51:28am

re: #156 retired cynic

Bad joke from Philadelphia: Have you tried greasing the pole.
(It does not work with Eagles fans but it may work with animals)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:52:43am

re: #156 retired cynic

Here an hour north of St Louis, had the first stray hummingbird yesterday, and an abrupt influx of goldfinches this morning.

On a not-unrelated topic, the raccoons are getting better at climbing slick poles to achieve mealworm nirvana.

I’ve seen some bad cover bands, but….

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I cannot.  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:02:37am

re: #155 Unshaken Defiance

Hang on, I’ll find my violin…but I need to find my electron microscope first…

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retired cynic  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:03:26am

re: #158 PhillyPretzel

Bad joke from Philadelphia: Have you tried greasing the pole.
(It does not work with Eagle fans but it may work with animals)

Heh. They’d just like the pole. They get my suit bars, no matter how far up and out on thin limbs I hang them. They use the rope to haul them up for a banquet in the treetops.

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makeitstop  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:03:34am

re: #160 I cannot.

Hang on, I’ll find my violin…but I need to find my electron microscope first…

Under the couch, probably.

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retired cynic  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:03:43am

re: #161 retired cynic

Heh. They’d just like the pole. They get my suit bars, no matter how far up and out on thin limbs I hang them. They use the rope to haul them up for a banquet in the treetops.

LICK the pole. Darn it.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:05:22am

re: #161 retired cynic

I’ve seen solutions involving something like a Slinky that works for squirrels. Not sure how a larger, heavier raccoon would fare.

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makeitstop  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:05:27am

I’ve got a new addition to my yard menagerie this year - a couple of black squirrels!

Shorter tails than the general issue squirrels, and they look a little smaller overall.

I’m wondering how they got here.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:07:07am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:08:20am

Anyone post about the layoffs at Red State yet?

money.cnn.com

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freetoken  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:09:07am
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wheat-dogg  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:09:58am

re: #165 makeitstop

I’ve got a new addition to my yard menagerie this year - a couple of black squirrels!

Shorter tails than the general issue squirrels, and they look a little smaller overall.

I’m wondering how they got here.

Hopped the train from Princeton, transferred at Penn Station.

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freetoken  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:10:01am

re: #167 GlutenFreeJesus

Discussed here yesterday. Mostly, I think many of us think this is just business as usual for religious groups.

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mmmirele  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:10:42am

re: #18 teleskiguy

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:11:27am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:12:10am

re: #155 Unshaken Defiance

Yawn. Needs mah coffee.
You guys see this?

Multiple sources told CNNMoney that they believed conservative critics of President Trump were the writers targeted for removal.
“Insufficiently partisan” was the phrase one writer used in a RedState group chat.

why is this news? private enterprise, freedom of speech and association.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:12:36am

re: #167 GlutenFreeJesus

Anyone post about the layoffs at Red State yet?

money.cnn.com

12 posts back and yesterday as Freetoken mentioned. A purity purge. Or, was that looking for insanity?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:14:28am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:14:56am

re: #154 Eclectic Cyborg

“Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”

Pulpit Pimps will reply that The Big G gave rich people the ability to buy a giant needle.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:15:28am

O_o

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:17:22am

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

“…distributing money towards the unattractive…”

Now we’re talking! I knew I’d find away to get rich someday!!

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freetoken  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:19:17am
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freetoken  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:20:51am

Using Spy, this morning when I hit the “Post It” button, I get dumped out to the front page. The posts have once worked anyway, but the last posting of mine did not and I had to hit “Post It” again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:22:36am

so stupid

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makeitstop  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:26:36am

re: #169 wheat-dogg

Hopped the train from Princeton, transferred at Penn Station.

Or just took an Uber out from Peter Cooper Village in NYC.

That’s the first place I ever even saw a black squirrel. Those little varmints were absolutely fearless. I saw one steal a sandwich off a park bench one time. And if you walked up to one, they’d hold their ground and just glare at you.

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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:30:56am
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BeachDem  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:33:50am

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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I cannot.  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:33:55am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:34:26am

re: #179 freetoken

Desmond Marrow: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

Compare that with this woman. The cops would have leveled her the moment she told them to “shut the fuck up” if she were black.

N.J. official resigns after she berates and curses at officers

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:35:38am

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

so stupid

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The answer is going after doctors that are prescribing this stuff in excess because they get “commission” from the drug companies.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:37:36am
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Ace-o-aces  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:39:55am

re: #187 GlutenFreeJesus

The answer is going after doctors that are prescribing this stuff in excess because they get “commission” from the drug companies.

We don’t get kickbacks. Docs who overprescribe on purpose do so to keep patients addicted and coming back to them for high doses of meds.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:41:41am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:42:03am

re: #189 Ace-o-aces

We don’t get kickbacks. Docs who overprescribe on purpose do so to keep patients addicted and coming back to them for high doses of meds.

You’re a good doctor. I do know some that get “favors” however.

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Skip Intro  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:46:16am

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

Do people who shoot video with cell phone cameras know they can hold them in landscape mode?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:47:51am

re: #192 First Epistle of Paul to the Bagmen

Do people who shoot video with cell phone cameras know they can hold them in landscape mode?

How would it even occur to anybody to hold them any other way—that’s the question.

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mmmirele  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:48:33am

re: #139 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Calvinists have been saying just exactly that for about 450 years. They said it in their inside voices for a century and a half or so here, but now they’re loud and proud again….

Yeah, if people weren’t aware, the Southern Baptist Convention has been captured by neo-Calvinists, aka the “Young, Restless and Reformed.” These are the pastors who would go to “Together For the Gospel 2018,” the preaching convention I picketed at two weeks ago. Most people don’t know the names of their leaders, like Albert Mohler, but I do, and they don’t have a goddamn problem with covering up child sexual abuse up until the point it’s exposed that their good buddies (like CJ Mahaney) covered up child sexual abuse.

It’s all of a piece. These Calvinista leaders (that’s what my friend Dee Parsons who runs the Wartburg Watch blog calls them) are pretty exclusively white men. And they’ve set up the scene so that only a very few men of color are brought on the stage, and women not at all. Women are not competent to teach men, at least according to Calvinista John Piper (another speaker at that event), because we don’t model maleness and manhood, which is incredibly important to Piper. So not a single woman was on the stage at “Together for the Gospel.” In fact, I can say that I was the only woman who had something important to say to the attendees as I stood out there with my sign. What a shame and a travesty. But this is what we have to look forward to as the creeping Calvinistas take over. :(

Edited to add a link to the piece of John Piper excreta where he says women really shouldn’t be seminary professors. desiringgod.org I want people to know about these jackasses because they infuriate me so very much.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:48:43am

“Access to sex”? As I read that, they’re not talking about ‘access’, they’re talking about guaranteed sex partners. They have access now, just like anyone else. What they don’t have is anyone obligated to have sex with them. Women don’t have to marry to live in our society anymore, and they are no longer stuck in the paradigm where having sex means likely getting pregnant, which means having to get married, which means being expected to have sex on demand with some guy you might not even like.

This is another of those things where some group of privileged people, who were dependent on that privilege, feel oppressed simply because they lose something they had no right to in the first place.

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Citizen K  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:48:43am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:48:55am
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Skip Intro  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:52:37am

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s still a longshot, unfortunately. Same with wingnut Tom McClintock. Both went from “safe” to “likely” Republican seats.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 8:57:19am

Again, “These people come here and bring their own culture and language and want to take over.” rings hollow from a country that took over half the world by force.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:02:54am

re: #119 Hecuba’s daughter

From my perspective, he has done nothing but sin since he took office. It is not adultery that is his real sin, but his denial of climate change, his repeal of every regulation designed to save the planet or help the poor, his personal corruption and that of practically everyone in his administration, his misogyny, his racism. What about bearing false witness? What about almost every other commandment? His unleashing the military without concern for “collateral” damage and his denial of refuge to those fleeing tyranny certainly must violate “Thou shalt not murder” commandment. Do the evangelicals actually care about the ten commandments at all?

Only for show, not for practice. They are a bludgeon not a guiding principal.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:04:10am

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She really is tone deaf af.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:06:37am

re: #183 Nyet

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Morning Sergey. How go things?

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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:08:40am

re: #202 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Pretty good. You?

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mmmirele  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:09:15am

Dunno what Andrew Sullivan said to deserve this, don’t want to know, but this is a sick burn.

ETA: Scrolled up after posting and saw what it is about. *rolls eyes* As someone who is (according to 23andMe) 63 percent British/Irish and the rest French/German, I do not have this thing that White European Culture Is Best Culture that Sullivan has. ugh.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:10:00am

re: #203 Nyet

Pretty good. You?

Good. Definitely looking up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:11:10am
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Dr Lizardo  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:13:02am

So, for all you Lizards who are fans of unresolved mysteries, here’s one for you; the disappearance of Mary Boyle - Ireland’s longest-running unsolved disappearance (since March 1977).

thejournal.ie

Mary Boyle: The Untold Story

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:15:46am

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Giant Duck of Peace for President? I’d vote for him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:16:31am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:18:17am

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Respect for women? He sure shows it by using his daughters as props and no doubt he’s a Trump fan too.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:18:33am

re: #208 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Giant Duck of Peace for President? I’d vote for him.

Better than Trump.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:20:55am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Multiple sources told CNNMoney that they believed conservative critics of President Trump were the writers targeted for removal.
“Insufficiently partisan” was the phrase one writer used in a RedState group chat.

why is this news? private enterprise, freedom of speech and association.

Not news. Category-Opposition intel.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:23:00am

Okay I admit I’m not a father and I do understand why fathers are protective especially of their daughters but I don’t get why some men think it’s funny to threaten suitors.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:23:52am

re: #212 Unshaken Defiance

Not news. Category-Opposition intel.

I think it does show the hypocrisy of those complaining about what the Atlantic did to Williamson.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:25:19am

re: #213 HappyWarrior

Okay I admit I’m not a father and I do understand why fathers are protective especially of their daughters but I don’t get why some men think it’s funny to threaten suitors.

Literally the only reason anymore is because it’s the sort of thing their dads and grand-dads did. They want to exercise whatever influence and power they can in order to keep control over their family.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:26:41am

re: #215 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Literally the only reason anymore is because it’s the sort of thing their dads and grand-dads did. They want to exercise whatever influence and power they can in order to keep control over their family.

Yep. I mean I know for a fact that my mom’s dad and my mom’s grandfather weren’t exactly sure about my Dad and Grandpa but I doubt they pulled guns on them.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:27:22am

re: #195 Blind Frog Belly White

“Access to sex”? As I read that, they’re not talking about ‘access’, they’re talking about guaranteed sex partners. They have access now, just like anyone else. What they don’t have is anyone obligated to have sex with them. Women don’t have to marry to live in our society anymore, and they are no longer stuck in the paradigm where having sex means likely getting pregnant, which means having to get married, which means being expected to have sex on demand with some guy you might not even like.

This is another of those things where some group of privileged people, who were dependent on that privilege, feel oppressed simply because they lose something they had no right to in the first place.

My guess is perfect Venn overlap with wanting to cut access to public assistance by minorities. They have access to sex 24/7. Certain businesses in Nevada are there to help anyone short of access to sex. Oh but they want it free, little effort no money right? Wow is that not exactly what they complain about in terms of safety nets like food assistance and general assistance? What was their worry, something like how welfare and food stamps create a climate of dependence?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:33:37am

re: #216 HappyWarrior

Yep. I mean I know for a fact that my mom’s dad and my mom’s grandfather weren’t exactly sure about my Dad and Grandpa but I doubt they pulled guns on them.

My dad did the whole “in the front room cleaning the rifle” thing on my now brother-in-law. Like, look, I love my sister, but I would never threaten her boyfriend, or joke about it, unless he was treating her wrong.

Actually, Mrs. Fish’s family introduced me to an almost polar opposite concept that I thought was pretty clever. As I’m waiting at the door to go into the church at my wedding, one of my soon-to-be brothers-in-law comes up. He says, “Look, dude, if you’re not sure about this, if you’re having second thoughts, I’ve got keys to my car in my pocket and we can be 10 miles away before anybody knows we’re gone. I’d rather that than you marry my sister and make her miserable.” It made me laugh, it made me think, and it put his mind at ease.

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The Major  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:34:27am

re: #171 mmmirele

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:34:39am

re: #204 mmmirele

Dunno what Andrew Sullivan said to deserve this, don’t want to know, but this is a sick burn.

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ETA: Scrolled up after posting and saw what it is about. *rolls eyes* As someone who is (according to 23andMe) 63 percent British/Irish and the rest French/German, I do not have this thing that White European Culture Is Best Culture that Sullivan has. ugh.

Well, he’s English, raised with stories of England’s greatness at a time when the British Empire was vanishing, and Britain itself was tired, broke, and worn out from WWI and WWII. England has always had this insular pride, from “We’re not really Europe!” to “Look how great we are for a small country to conquer half the world!”

Honestly, it’s the same kind of mythology we’re taught growing up. We’re special.

I’ve found that people who think white European culture is this fantastic thing are very selective about the things they consider part of it. They point to technological advancements, science, law, freedom, etc, but they ignore that it also produced catastrophic wars every couple decades for centuries, and the most ruthlessly efficient genocide in history.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:35:19am

re: #192 First Epistle of Paul to the Bagmen

Do people who shoot video with cell phone cameras know they can hold them in landscape mode?

Phones should have an option to always record in landscape mode. There’s no reason the phone needs to be horizontal to trigger it.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:36:06am

re: #218 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My dad did the whole “in the front room cleaning the rifle” thing on my now brother-in-law. Like, look, I love my sister, but I would never threaten her boyfriend, or joke about it, unless he was treating her wrong.

Actually, Mrs. Fish’s family introduced me to an almost polar opposite concept that I thought was pretty clever. As I’m waiting at the door to go into the church at my wedding, one of my soon-to-be brothers-in-law comes up. He says, “Look, dude, if you’re not sure about this, if you’re having second thoughts, I’ve got keys to my car in my pocket and we can be 10 miles away before anybody knows we’re gone. I’d rather that than you marry my sister and make her miserable.” It made me laugh, it made me think, and it put his mind at ease.

Yeah I just don’t know why some guys see that as funny. I admit it I’m not a Dad but when my niece is older, I’d want to actually get to know the guy rather than scaring him off. Plus I’ve seen how my Dad is with the husbands and boyfriends of his nieces. Your BiL did the right thing.

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Alephnaught  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:36:24am

re: #213 HappyWarrior

Okay I admit I’m not a father and I do understand why fathers are protective especially of their daughters but I don’t get why some men think it’s funny to threaten suitors.

Aye, I noticed that as well: “VOTE FOR ME!!! I’M WILLING TO GET INTO A GUNFIGHT OVER MY KID’S DATING CHOICES!!! [Voiceover] Vote Republican- you know it makes sense!”

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:36:26am

re: #213 HappyWarrior

Okay I admit I’m not a father and I do understand why fathers are protective especially of their daughters but I don’t get why some men think it’s funny to threaten suitors.

They remember how they acted as young men. Observe daughter in attractive date dress. Recall past behavior as projected upon young suitor….

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mmmirele  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:37:48am

re: #219 The Major

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:39:14am

re: #223 Alephnaught

Aye, I noticed that as well: “VOTE FOR ME!!! I’M WILLING TO GET INTO A GUNFIGHT OVER MY KID’S DATING CHOICES!!! [Voiceover] Vote Republican- you know it makes sense!”

Yeah it’s just something I don’t get. I don’t have a sister so I don’t know how my Dad would have acted. The worst that happened with Dad’s Dad and Dad’s sisters’ suitors were political arguments with my one Aunt’s husband. Dad’s Dad being the liberal and my Aunt’s now ex being the conservative. The kids all ended up pretty liberal lol except my one cousin who had a brief conservative phase in the 80’s along with a bad stache.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:39:33am

re: #224 Unshaken Defiance

They remember how they acted as young men. Observe daughter in attractive date dress. Recall past behavior as projected upon young suitor….

Yeah I think that’s exactly it. And man did that guy sound like Georgia.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:40:39am

re: #222 HappyWarrior

Yeah I just don’t know why some guys see that as funny. I admit it I’m not a Dad but when my niece is older, I’d want to actually get to know the guy rather than scaring him off. Plus I’ve seen how my Dad is with the husbands and boyfriends of his nieces. Your BiL did the right thing.

I am a dad. I have a lovely young daughter and I know she’s going to get some attention when she grows up. I fully intend on teaching her to be smart about boys - and we’ll also make sure she can kick ass if she needs to - and to get to know the kids she hangs out with. I won’t be doing any threatening unless it’s a situation where I’d threaten anybody.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:42:09am

re: #228 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I am a dad. I have a lovely young daughter and I know she’s going to get some attention when she grows up. I fully intend on teaching her to be smart about boys - and we’ll also make sure she can kick ass if she needs to - and to get to know the kids she hangs out with. I won’t be doing any threatening unless it’s a situation where I’d threaten anybody.

Yeah that’s why I apperciate your pov on this. I think your daughter is around my niece’s age. I’m sure my brother is thinking the same thing you are.

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The Major  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:43:14am

re: #225 mmmirele

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:46:20am

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:47:31am

re: #231 Joe Bacon 🌹

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I’m trying to think of a funny word to describe McNaughton’s paintings. They remind me of Socialist Realism in the USSR except worse.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:48:29am

I understand the whole ‘cleaning the gun in the front room’ thing, in the sense that I grasp the concept. But it’s so rooted in women lacking agency over their own bodies and sexuality. And it goes back to what we talked about the other day, about the days when young men were taught that there were girls you screw, and girls you marry. As a Dad, you don’t want to think your daughter is the former.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:49:55am

re: #232 HappyWarrior

I’m trying to think of a funny word to describe McNaughton’s paintings. They remind me of Socialist Realism in the USSR except worse.

“Say what you will about National Socialism Socialist Realism, at least it’s an ethos aesthetic.”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:52:27am

re: #234 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“Say what you will about National Socialism Socialist Realism, at least it’s an ethos aesthetic.”

Hahaha.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:53:48am

re: #233 Blind Frog Belly White

I understand the whole ‘cleaning the gun in the front room’ thing, in the sense that I grasp the concept. But it’s so rooted in women lacking agency over their own bodies and sexuality. And it goes back to what we talked about the other day, about the days when young men were taught that there were girls you screw, and girls you marry. As a Dad, you don’t want to think your daughter is the former.

You pretty much hit the nail on the head. And the thing of it is, I understand; I don’t want my daughter just running around screwing anybody who comes on to her. But how exactly is being a borderline creepy jackass going to help? It might scare off a couple guys, but in the end it’s just going to foster resentment. Then she’s going to start making bad choices, and that ends badly.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:54:50am

re: #232 HappyWarrior

I’m trying to think of a funny word to describe McNaughton’s paintings. They remind me of Socialist Realism in the USSR except worse.

They remind me of the political cartoons in The Onion, where they ladle on the symbolism like gravy on biscuits, and then STILL label everything.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 9:57:50am
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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 10:00:15am

re: #232 HappyWarrior

I’m trying to think of a funny word to describe McNaughton’s paintings. They remind me of Socialist Realism in the USSR except worse.

“Race Realism”.

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Alephnaught  Apr 28, 2018 • 10:01:25am

re: #231 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Only just caught up on this: “Teach a Man a Fish”? Surely it’s “Teach a Man to Fish”?

Otherwise, Strangely Slim Trump is saying to this Rebel w/o a Cause stereotype strawman: “Well, there are these animals called a… FISH, and [… Later ..] and I caught a fish THIS big, the biggest and best fish in history, believe me!”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 10:03:31am

re: #239 Nyet

“Race Realism”.

There we go.

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freetoken  Apr 28, 2018 • 10:09:28am

I don’t read Andrew Sullivan so I don’t know whatever is going on with him, so prompted here I went and read the piece:

Will There Always Be an England?

[…]

I love the new London, but then I would, wouldn’t I? I’m an American now, and became one in part because I fell in love with its racial and cultural diversity. But most people, not gifted with a great education and lucky breaks, are not able to hop and skip between capital cities, finding each metropolis increasingly and pleasantly like the other. They’re in suburbs and small towns, or in the rust-belt north, whence Orwell’s patriotic (emphatically not nationalist) socialism sprang. And they’re anxious — in a way that the young are not anxious. For the under-40s, economic insecurity, college debt, and inability to own a home drive the angst. For the over-40s, it’s a sense that the England they identified with, that gave their lives meaning and pride — the England that was nearly destroyed in the “finest hour” of 1940 — this “sceptered isle,” is disappearing.

[…]

It’s just typical trying-to-understand-old-folk-who-don’t-like-change type of piece.

However, Sullivan also exhibits a great deal of ignorance:

If that is true in immigrant-created, multiracial, multicultural America, a vast and churning continent, always restless, always changing, it is triply true in the little, overcrowded, once remarkably homogeneous island that is Britain. This country’s core identity is thousands of years old. Yes, it has long accepted immigrants, but until the 1950s, net immigration was a rounding error. Since then, it has exploded. In the last 20 years, it has reached American levels. For those whose self-understanding is wrapped up in bluebells and tea, in English accents divided solely by class and region, in a nearly all-white and all-English country for centuries, these times are culturally terrifying.

These are just false statements.

What is the “core identity”?

Is it the Protestantism that brought about the KJV?

Is it the Angles who invaded in the post-Roman era and gave the country and language the name we use today?

Is it the Vikings who (cousins of the above Angles) also invaded? Or their descendants the Normans, who also invaded?

Is it the Celts who had invaded the islands a couple of millennia before that?

Is it the Romans who founded, after all, the city of London of which Sullivan uses as the centerpiece of his article?

Is it Ireland, which England invaded and ruled many times and even now the UK has carved out the NE quadrant of that island?

All the above groups brought war exactly because they did not share a “core identity.”

The above groups fought with each other over different identities.

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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 10:10:17am

re: #241 HappyWarrior

Tomáš Kulka in Kitsch and Art starts from two basic facts that kitsch “has an undeniable mass-appeal” and “considered (by the art-educated elite) bad” and then proposes three essential conditions:

Kitsch depicts a beautiful or highly emotionally charged subject;
The depicted subject is instantly and effortlessly identifiable
Kitsch does not substantially enrich our associations related to the depicted subject.

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freetoken  Apr 28, 2018 • 10:15:33am

Charles: Using Spy with Chrome, when I use one of the text editing buttons in the upper right of the input box I get dumped to the front page of LGF. The action of the buttons are included, when I use the browser back button to return to Spy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 10:19:28am

Paralympic Games organizers hope U.S. President Donald Trump won’t find it tough to watch their events in future.

The International Paralympic Committee pointed to the growing reach of its competitions in response to comments made on Friday by Trump when American athletes from the Winter Olympics and Paralympics in Pyeongchang were welcomed to the White House.

“What happened with the Paralympics was so incredible and so inspiring to me, and I watched,” Trump said, surrounded by members of Team USA. “It’s a little tough to watch too much, but I watched as much as I could.”

The Paralympics in March were broadcast in the U.S. on NBC, NBCSN, and streamed on the NBC website.

“Record numbers of people around the world are not finding the Paralympics tough to watch,” IPC communications director Craig Spence told The Associated Press on Saturday. “Billions of viewers now take in the Paralympics in hundreds of countries around the world.

“We’re confident Tokyo 2020 will be the biggest Paralympics ever, breaking the cumulative 4.1 billion viewers who watched Rio 2016. We hope the U.S. President continues to watch and be inspired by the Paralympics, an event that has a track record for transforming attitudes towards disability.”

The U.S. topped the standings at the Paralympics in South Korea with 36 medals — 13 gold, 15 silver and 8 bronze.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 10:21:18am

re: #242 freetoken

Sullivan, like most racism sympathizers, buys into the mythology of racism, that there’s something special about HIS group, some purity worth keeping pure.

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freetoken  Apr 28, 2018 • 10:21:37am

What Sullivan revealed is that his beliefs about the world outside his little bubble are shaped by the 1950’s television tropes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 10:22:47am
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Citizen K  Apr 28, 2018 • 10:24:24am

re: #248 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But of course it works because to be a Dem and liberal is to always be treated as inherently wrong the moment something comes up, and having to prove in triplicate your own validity. And even then, you’re suspect just by your presence.

And Joy is a black woman. That’s a triple threat right there.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2018 • 10:26:04am

re: #246 Blind Frog Belly White

Sullivan, like most racism sympathizers, buys into the mythology of racism, that there’s something special about HIS group, some purity worth keeping pure.

They should all stop procreating. It’s the only way to stay pure.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 10:26:52am

re: #250 Belafon

They should all stop procreating. It’s the only way to stay pure.

Pretty sure Sullivan already did that.
//

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 10:29:01am

re: #247 freetoken

What Sullivan revealed is that his beliefs about the world outside his little bubble are shaped by the 1950’s television tropes.

It’s the very heart of Conservatism to never question the idea that there was a point in the past when everything was better, and the best thing to do would be to return to it.

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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 10:32:27am

re: #248 Backwoods_Sleuth

OK I’ve updated myself on the kerfuffle.

vox.com

Seems like Joy Reid is an inveterate liar.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 10:33:17am

end of the shift…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 10:43:06am

good grief

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Single-handed sailor  Apr 28, 2018 • 10:45:36am

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

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good grief

I’ll bet a dollar it’s not going to include Muslim or Jewish prayer.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 28, 2018 • 10:47:28am

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

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good grief

Can the kids bring their own prayer rugs?

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Citizen K  Apr 28, 2018 • 10:49:16am

re: #257 Eventual Carrion

Can the kids bring their own prayer rugs?

Of course not. This is only for Christian prayer like the Founding Fathers intended, don’t you know. ////

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 10:50:19am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 10:51:59am

I didn’t watch, but what I hear of Joy Reid’s show today is that it went far beyond the Tweet that everyone’s posting, where she says she doesn’t believe she said those things, but understands why people don’t believe her. She talked about evolving, and had a number of folks on to challenge her.

That’s the key, isn’t it - evolving.

Where I grew up, when I grew up, homosexuality didn’t exist. By that I mean it didn’t exist as a thing that involved anyone you knew; it wasn’t talked about, or acknowledged. There were ‘confirmed bachelors’ and ‘spinster aunts’. “Faggot” was something you called other guys, not even really knowing what it meant. I don’t remember calling anyone that, and I’d like to believe I never did, but I can’t guarantee it.

Public displays of affection between two men used to bother me a bit, honestly. And I’m sure I said things and thought things that would make me cringe today. But, the point is - they make me cringe today. I don’t say them or think them anymore.

I didn’t used to think same sex marriage was ‘right’, somehow. I thought, as many others did, that Civil Unions, with all the legal rights and responsibilities should be enough. Then I thought, maybe it should be Civil Unions for everybody, and marriage should be a ceremonial thing that churches could do for anyone according to their beliefs, but with no legal aspect.

But I realized what I was really doing was trying to keep same sex marriage separate, but equal. So I evolved, and now I realize that was a silly attitude.

Honestly, when my coworker talked about ‘his husband’, it sounded odd, but I realize that this is MY problem, a remnant of my upbringing, and it’s something to get over.

We evolve in our thinking. We don’t think the same as we did years ago, because our experiences teach us that our thinking then was wrong. That’s a good thing.

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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 10:57:18am

re: #260 Blind Frog Belly White

where she says she doesn’t believe she said those things, but understands why people don’t believe her

No one believes her because she did write those things. Wayback Machine doesn’t lie.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 10:58:57am

re: #261 Nyet

No one believes her because she did write those things. Wayback Machine doesn’t lie.

Whatever. I can understand seeing things I wrote 10 years ago and not believing I wrote them, disowning them even. And i have no interest in joining the pitchfork and torch brigade. But you do you.

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freetoken  Apr 28, 2018 • 10:59:24am

re: #258 Citizen K

Louisiana is one of the most religious states, as far as the religious-right type of religion is concerned. At least when we look at proportion of residents. Texas has many more religious-right types but it is a much, much larger state.

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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:00:55am

re: #262 Blind Frog Belly White

Pointing out she is a liar is not anywhere near “joining the pitchfork and torch brigade”. So yeah, you’re doing you.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:01:58am

re: #264 Nyet

Pointing out she is a liar is not anywhere near “joining the pitchfork and torch brigade”. So yeah, you’re doing you.

Sure.

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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:02:24am

re: #265 Blind Frog Belly White

Sure.

Glad we agree.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:02:33am

As we grow older the more we learn the more we change.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:03:38am

re: #266 Nyet

Glad we agree.

Perhaps you don’t get the connotative meaning of that word in that usage.

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stpaulbear  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:03:39am

re: #260 Blind Frog Belly White

I didn’t watch, but what I hear of Joy Reid’s show today is that it went far beyond the Tweet that everyone’s posting, where she says she doesn’t believe she said those things, but understands why people don’t believe her. She talked about evolving, and had a number of folks on to challenge her.

That’s the key, isn’t it - evolving.

Where I grew up, when I grew up, homosexuality didn’t exist. By that I mean it didn’t exist as a thing that involved anyone you knew; it wasn’t talked about, or acknowledged. There were ‘confirmed bachelors’ and ‘spinster aunts’. “Faggot” was something you called other guys, not even really knowing what it meant. I don’t remember calling anyone that, and I’d like to believe I never did, but I can’t guarantee it.

Public displays of affection between two men used to bother me a bit, honestly. And I’m sure I said things and thought things that would make me cringe today. But, the point is - they make me cringe today. I don’t say them or think them anymore.

I didn’t used to think same sex marriage was ‘right’, somehow. I thought, as many others did, that Civil Unions, with all the legal rights and responsibilities should be enough. Then I thought, maybe it should be Civil Unions for everybody, and marriage should be a ceremonial thing that churches could do for anyone according to their beliefs, but with no legal aspect.

But I realized what I was really doing was trying to keep same sex marriage separate, but equal. So I evolved, and now I realize that was a silly attitude.

Honestly, when my coworker talked about ‘his husband’, it sounded odd, but I realize that this is MY problem, a remnant of my upbringing, and it’s something to get over.

We evolve in our thinking. We don’t think the same as we did years ago, because our experiences teach us that our thinking then was wrong. That’s a good thing.

I can remember a comment thread here from a few years ago where someone was saying that ‘the gay lifestyle’ made him uncomfortable and saw it as a problem. I let him know that if he had a problem with it, it was his problem and not mine. I hope he got the message.

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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:04:34am

re: #268 Blind Frog Belly White

Perhaps you don’t get the connotative meaning of that word in that usage.

Make up your mind.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:08:01am

re: #269 stpaulbear

I can remember a comment thread here from a few years ago where someone was saying that ‘the gay lifestyle’ made him uncomfortable and saw it as a problem. I let him know that if he had a problem with it, it was his problem and not mine. I hope he got the message.

That’s really it, isn’t it? I used to know lots of folks who thought they were being enlightened by saying, “I don’t care what they do or who they do it with, but I don’t want to see it!”and thinking this should be enough, and that the problem was same sex couples not being sufficiently discreet, rather than it being THEIR issue.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:09:58am

re: #270 Nyet

Make up your mind.

Here we go round the mulberry bush,
The mulberry bush,
The mulberry bush.
Here we go round the mulberry bush
On a cold and frosty morning.

Have fun with that.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:11:27am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:11:43am

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wait a minute, what in the hell is going on in Los Angeles that makes….ohhh, we’re talking about the other LA.

//

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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:12:09am

re: #272 Blind Frog Belly White

You’ll have to run around that bush alone, I’m afraid.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:13:43am

re: #275 Nyet

You’ll have to run around that bush alone, I’m afraid.

…he said, running around the mulberry bush.

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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:14:54am

re: #276 Blind Frog Belly White

…he said, running around the mulberry bush.

You’re good at self-description.

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I cannot.  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:16:53am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:17:36am

re: #277 Nyet

You’re good at self-description.

Nope. Just suffer from a pathological need to have the last word.

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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:17:59am

re: #279 Blind Frog Belly White

Nope. Just suffer from a pathological need to have the last word.

OK.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:18:31am

re: #278 I cannot.

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“How will it end?”

“In fire.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:26:14am

A while back, on FB, I was having a long, drawn out argument with somebody, and when he asked why I kept going, I said I had a need to have the last word, but I was gonna let him have the last word.

He replied, “Thanks”.

I replied, “You’re welcome.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:40:30am

A completely different style of music than normal here, but my baby sister is in a Sweet Adelines competition this weekend and you can stream the contest here. Her group is in the next 20 minutes or so.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:43:22am
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:44:04am

re: #51 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I think “abyss” is the only Sumerian loan word in English. Apsu was the void underneath the Earth.

cool!

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freetoken  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:45:24am

Just to throw out something about which to cogitate: there has been quite a bit written on topics like selective memory, selective memory loss, selective amnesia, etc.

I’m hardly knowledgeable in this area, but from what little I’ve read, our ability to forget stuff is not only universal but perhaps necessary.

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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:46:13am

re: #51 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I think “abyss” is the only Sumerian loan word in English. Apsu was the void underneath the Earth.

From Middle English abissus, from Late Latin abyssus (“a bottomless gulf”), from Ancient Greek ἄβυσσος (ábussos, “bottomless”), from ἀ- (a-, “not”) + βυσσός (bussós, “deep place”),[1][2] from βυθός (buthós, “deep place”).[3]

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:46:52am

re: #248 Backwoods_Sleuth

The weirdest part of this Joy Reid kerfuffle is watching viciously anti-gay right wingers pretending for a hot second that they actually care about civil rights for LGBT Americans just so they can attack a liberal media personality.

there has also been a lot of momentarily pretending to care about black poverty before immediately going back to blaming it on them
and promoting racist fantasies

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:49:40am

re: #286 freetoken

Just to throw out something about which to cogitate: there has been quite a bit written on topics like selective memory, selective memory loss, selective amnesia, etc.

I’m hardly knowledgeable in this area, but from what little I’ve read, our ability to forget stuff is not only universal but perhaps necessary.

I think one of the worst aspects of having a good memory is bad memories. There are stupid things I’ve said and done that I wish I could forget, but I can’t. Then there’s also grieving, where forgetfulness is the one thing that helps you crawl back out of the Pit Of Despair.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:53:13am

English abyss from Greek abyssos comes from Akkadian apsu which comes from the Sumerian abzu.

I think that’s not technically a “loanword” but an etymological derivation.

The craziest word that travels without any change of meaning? The Akkadian word sack.

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wrenchwench  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:56:30am

re: #286 freetoken

Just to throw out something about which to cogitate: there has been quite a bit written on topics like selective memory, selective memory loss, selective amnesia, etc.

I’m hardly knowledgeable in this area, but from what little I’ve read, our ability to forget stuff is not only universal but perhaps necessary.

When I met the EMT who took care of me on my helicopter ride (6 months after that ride), he told me his name, then said, ‘I’m the guy who gave you the shot that let you forget that day.’ I said, ‘Thank you.’ Not a personally selected memory loss, but an appreciated one.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:58:26am

I’m just gonna leave this here, then run screaming from the room and take Rango for a walk, because this is some industrial-strength, weaponized horseshit.

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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 11:59:11am

re: #290 The Ghost of a Flea

What sources state that βυθός (from which abyss derives) comes from Apsu?

Possibly a metathesis from Proto-Indo-European *dʰewb-, with cognates including Old Church Slavonic дъно (dŭno), Old English dēop (English deep) and Albanian det (from Proto-Albanian *deubeta). Unrelated to βᾰθῠ́ς (bathús) and βένθος (bénthos).

However, Beekes soundly rejects Indo-European origin, and assigns it to Pre-Greek instead.[1]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:00:27pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:02:44pm

re: #290 The Ghost of a Flea

English abyss from Greek abyssos comes from Akkadian apsu which comes from the Sumerian abzu.

I think that’s not technically a “loanword” but an etymological derivation.

The craziest word that travels without any change of meaning? The Akkadian word sack.

there is a presumably pre indo european “substrate” in germanic languages like english. one often quoted example is the word “folk”, which some speculate might not have changed in sound or meaning for thousands of years

i think the whole pre indo european substrate issue in germanic and slavic languages has an element of romantic mystery to it: there are ancient dead languages buried under there

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dangerman  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:03:34pm

re: #282 Blind Frog Belly White

A while back, on FB, I was having a long, drawn out argument with somebody, and when he asked why I kept going, I said I had a need to have the last word, but I was gonna let him have the last word.

He replied, “Thanks”.

I replied, “You’re welcome.”

“Don’t mention it”…..

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dangerman  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:04:38pm

re: #286 freetoken

Just to throw out something about which to cogitate: there has been quite a bit written on topics like selective memory, selective memory loss, selective amnesia, etc.

I’m hardly knowledgeable in this area, but from what little I’ve read, our ability to forget stuff is not only universal but perhaps necessary.

What were we talking about?

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retired cynic  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:10:30pm

re: #260 Blind Frog Belly White

Excellent! (I am on the same trajectory!)

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freetoken  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:10:36pm

re: #297 dangerman

What were we talking about?

Those topics just popped into my mind when people argued over whether Joy Reid really did forget those (mostly thought to be legitimate) posts of hers from years ago.

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retired cynic  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:13:54pm

re: #283 klys (maker of Silmarils)

A completely different style of music than normal here, but my baby sister is in a Sweet Adelines competition this weekend and you can stream the contest here. Her group is in the next 20 minutes or so.

Oh, my father was a devoted Barbershopper. We were hauled all around the country for competitions. It takes real skill. Not my thing, but I try to go with it, in memory of my father’s enjoyment.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:16:36pm

re: #300 retired cynic

Oh, my father was a devoted Barbershopper. We were hauled all around the country for competitions. It takes real skill. Not my thing, but I try to go with it, in memory of my father’s enjoyment.

It’s something she started after she moved for her first job and she’s really been enjoying it. There’s a family history, so it wasn’t out of the blue, but I’m still glad she’s found something to do fun like that.

They’re hoping to win and get to go compete at internationals in New Orleans next fall.

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dangerman  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:17:42pm

re: #299 freetoken

Those topics just popped into my mind when people argued over whether Joy Reid really did forget those (mostly thought to be legitimate) posts of hers from years ago.

Oh, I forgot. //

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MsJ  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:19:40pm

re: #296 dangerman

“Don’t mention it”…..

“My pleasure”

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:21:03pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:24:39pm

re: #300 retired cynic

Oh, my father was a devoted Barbershopper. We were hauled all around the country for competitions. It takes real skill. Not my thing, but I try to go with it, in memory of my father’s enjoyment.

we did a little barbershop in my high school chorus, which usually did early music

i enjoyed the close intervals and chromatic voice leading - cool chords!

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dangerman  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:25:53pm

re: #303 MsJ

“My pleasure”

It was nothing…

(And we go into extra innings)…

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Whack-A-Mole  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:26:16pm

re: #292 Blind Frog Belly White

That level of crazy just scares the crap out of me as a father to a little girl.

The way these people have of dehumanizing women and reducing their value to a single bit of their anatomy is truly frightening.

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Skip Intro  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:26:36pm

re: #13 Ace-o-aces

Doctor Zoom at Wonkette’s site explains the magic touch of RW America’s favorite artist.

America’s Greatest and Laziest Patriotic Artist, Jon McNaughton, has oiled forth a new masterpiece in his great line of America-loving paintings, which fuse the middlebrow artistic finesse of the late Thomas Kinkade with the subtle political messaging of a Ben Garrison cartoon.

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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:28:24pm
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retired cynic  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:28:35pm

re: #305 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

we did a little barbershop in my high school chorus, which usually did early music

i enjoyed the close intervals and chromatic voice leading - cool chords!

Now, I LOVE early music! (Was a music major in college, and I still love to listen to those harmonies.)

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freetoken  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:28:43pm

To repeat myself from the other day: I think we ought to embrace a culture where people are encouraged to discuss how they’ve changed their mind on this or that.

Such will make for a more honest atmosphere and one in which the society can make progress.

Entrenchment of a few key opinions may be necessary for some baseline in a society, but in general I’d prefer most beliefs to be more fluid.

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allegro  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:32:38pm

re: #300 retired cynic

Oh, my father was a devoted Barbershopper. We were hauled all around the country for competitions. It takes real skill. Not my thing, but I try to go with it, in memory of my father’s enjoyment.

My husband did barbershop, a member of the Houston Tidelanders and was in a quartet as well. I was inwardly groaning when faced with my first Tidelanders Christmas show, wondering how I would be able to sit through it. Turns out I had a blast and LOVED it! Couldn’t wait for both the Spring and Christmas shows every year after that.

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mmmirele  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:33:45pm

re: #255 Backwoods_Sleuth

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good grief

I don’t think a “permission slip” would pass Constitutional muster but it’s not something I believe the courts have addressed. I still think there would be an element of coercion involved, where the parent/guardian signs the slip so their kid won’t stand out.

Fifty years ago, my second grade teacher humiliated me in front of the class at my new school because I didn’t stop to pray over my lunch. I still remember, and I want this to STOP. Keep the religion at home, not in our schools!

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MsJ  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:34:41pm

re: #306 dangerman

It was nothing…

Truly.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:35:05pm

re: #71 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This is hilarious.

An architecture expert reveals 19 of the ugliest McMansions in America

Everyone with an ounce of taste likes to mock mcmansions, the giant, pretentious, stylistically illiterate, and cheaply made cookie cutter houses that spread like a fungus across newly developed ‘burbs from coast to coast. The mid-90s were the heyday of mcmansions, but they are still alive (though not well).
You could almost feel guilty for ridiculing them and their clueless owners, except that they are so deserving of ridicule.

Two of the worst are in Texas. They look like the sort of place where a Trumpite politician might live:
Fort Bend County:

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I need to figure out where the one in Rockwall Co. is since that’s where I am. But, even in the smallest county in the state, there’s still a lot of ground to cover.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:36:25pm

re: #273 Charles Johnson

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I mentioned last evening Rachel Maddow’s support or not will be key to Joy keeping her career at MSNBC.

But she is not out of the woods. There are people that will forgive and others that won’t. And a third group that doesn’t care about the nature of the tweets, they are doing everything they can to see her gone because of her politics and outspoken ways.

I do think she may have made those comments though as it seems to be pretty tough to make changes on archived pages that carry time stamps. But it is remotely possible. When she says I might have but I don’t remember but I have made others that could be seen as being similar it is getting close to saying she did. Just my opinion. I hope she learns from it all. That’s all I can ask from an outsider view.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:38:49pm

re: #292 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m just gonna leave this here, then run screaming from the room and take Rango for a walk, because this is some industrial-strength, weaponized horseshit.

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Having looked at both men and women a lot, if we follow step two, there are going to be a whole lot more men not getting any.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:43:17pm

re: #313 mmmirele

I don’t think a “permission slip” would pass Constitutional muster but it’s not something I believe the courts have addressed. I still think there would be an element of coercion involved, where the parent/guardian signs the slip so their kid won’t stand out.

Fifty years ago, my second grade teacher humiliated me in front of the class at my new school because I didn’t stop to pray over my lunch. I still remember, and I want this to STOP. Keep the religion at home, not in our schools!

How many kids have to agree to it in order for it to take affect? If it’s not 100%, then we’re back to a child being forced to observe participate in something they or their parent’s don’t want. And if you’re that one kid who’s different, what will happen to you when the other kids find out your parents didn’t allow it?

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:45:53pm

re: #307 Whack-A-Mole

That level of crazy just scares the crap out of me as a father to a little girl.

The way these people have of dehumanizing women and reducing their value to a single bit of their anatomy is truly frightening.

You know what would happen with that 1/10 to 10/10 rating system?

The guys that get the 6/10 and below will bitch about it.

The bitch would be they were being judged too harshly and the factors for the judgement are unfair.

In other words…same shit as before.

Then they would say that women get judged more favorably.

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makeitstop  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:48:42pm

re: #292 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m just gonna leave this here, then run screaming from the room and take Rango for a walk, because this is some industrial-strength, weaponized horseshit.

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I now have the urge to go meet up with an incel, any incel, and slap the living bejesus out of him.


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