Video: Joy Reid Addresses Her Offensive Blog Posts

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The Major  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:39:46pm

Now can we finally give this a rest and move on?

Most will, but some will never. Y’know, like those flat-earthers and chemtrail believers who watch programs and visit websites that reinforce their bad teachings and idiotic beliefs….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:40:38pm

I think we’ve also done stupid stuff in our lives we regret. Joy is no different.

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guachi  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:43:58pm

It’s difficult to move on when she never acknowledges having written the posts. She never apologizes for her blog posts because she says she didn’t write them. She admits she wrote and tweeted hurtful things in the past, but not the blog posts. She apologizes for having written things that would make you think she wrote the blog posts she denies writing.

But at no point does she apologize for the blog posts.

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Mattand  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:44:34pm

I’d buy her apology more if she didn’t go to the “My site was hit by leet haxors” defense that every GOP dirtbag goes to first.

Of course, being a homophobe is a plus for conservatives and Republicans, so it may not be a fair comparison.

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Mattand  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:45:12pm

re: #3 guachi

Bingo.

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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:47:44pm

re: #3 guachi

It’s difficult to move on when she never acknowledges having written the posts. She never apologizes for her blog posts because she says she didn’t write them.

Correct, first step is acknowledging what you did, not lying about it.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:55:12pm

(Comment about this topic made in last thread)

I mentioned last evening Rachel Maddow’s support or not will be key to Joy keeping her career at MSNBC.

But she is not out of the woods. There are people that will forgive and others that won’t. And a third group that doesn’t care about the nature of the tweets, they are doing everything they can to see her gone because of her politics and outspoken ways.

I do think she may have made those comments though as it seems to be pretty tough to make changes on archived pages that carry time stamps. But it is remotely possible. When she says I might have but I don’t remember but I have made others that could be seen as being similar it is getting close to saying she did. Just my opinion. I hope she learns from it all. That’s all I can ask from an outsider view.

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jeffreyw  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:57:06pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:58:54pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

I think we’ve also done stupid stuff in our lives we regret. Joy is no different.

We have?

[Checks comment history.]

Shit.

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Mattand  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:59:49pm

From Vox:

Other posts made derogatory remarks about gay people, claiming that “most straight people cringe at the sight of two men kissing” and that “adult gay men tend to be attracted to very young, post-pubescent types.” One post acknowledged, “Does that make me homophobic? Probably.”

If you don’t remember writing something like that, it’s more likely you did it so often that it all blurred together than you got hacked.

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wrenchwench  Apr 28, 2018 • 12:59:52pm

re: #6 Nyet

Correct, first step is acknowledging what you did, not lying about it.

Is it true, what you wrote in the last thread, that the Wayback Machine does not lie?

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:01:02pm

re: #8 jeffreyw

Is the cat a licensed phrenologist?

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makeitstop  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:01:34pm

OT to this thread, sorry. The dscussion of barbershop/Sweet Adelines reminded me of an absolutely stellar modern example, from the sadly broken up and criminally under-rated Bay Area band Jellyfish.

Jellyfish - Hush

Vocally, they’re often compared to the Beach Boys, but Brian Wilson borrowed quite a bit from barbershop (or second hand from the Four Aces) for those legendary Beach Boys harmonies.

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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:01:55pm

re: #11 wrenchwench

Yes. And the WA people actually checked and confirmed that no hacking was involved (as if there was doubt).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:02:22pm

sure thing, you moron…

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wrenchwench  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:03:19pm

re: #9 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

We have?

[Checks comment history.]

Shit.

# me too

(Spaces make it not link to twitter.)

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ipsos  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:06:45pm

This thread popped up literally just as I got home from a day out, shoveled some coal into the DVR and started watching AM Joy.

My position hasn’t changed as a result of watching the first ten minutes (including her opening statement):

I still think the preponderance of the evidence says that the blog posts in question are authentic, and my (very high) opinion of Joy is tempered somewhat by her continuing to claim otherwise. Does she remember having made them? Maybe not, and I don’t want to presume to know exactly what’s going on in her mind.

And having said that, I still think we need her voice in the dialogue. It’s abundantly clear that the Joy who’s on TV in 2018 is not the same person who made those posts, whether it was actually Joy in 2004 or her postulated “hacker” at some later date.

I was furious when MSNBC took Melissa Harris-Perry out of that weekend slot, and I’ll be even madder if they pull Joy off the air for this. But I’m also still more than a little mad at her for sticking to the silly “I was hacked” stuff. If anything, it gives ammunition to the right-wing assholes who are trying to use it to take her down.

People are complicated. People who are paid to take high-profile political stances are especially complicated. If our airwaves were filled only with perfect people, there would be a lot of empty chairs on the news every night.

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mmmirele  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:08:38pm

For Lizards and Caturday.

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jeffreyw  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:11:42pm

re: #12 Belafon

Is the cat a licensed phrenologist?

All cats have license. Not all are community rated. Ginger Boy takes his work seriously.

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mmmirele  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:14:49pm

Dunno if we talked about this, but flying while black and fat.

(click through for the thread)

I’m white and fat and have started flying first class when I can (and can afford it) to avoid the “my you’re LARRRRRGE” looks in coach. And I was thinking this morning how, as a white woman, I have barely an inkling into the black experience in America. This is yet another example.

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BigPapa  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:16:22pm

Joy needs to suck it up and admit it. I think her ego got the best of her and she needs to get back out in front of it.

I started on this blog in 2007 and have said some things I’d be embarrassed about today. Nothing I couldn’t admit to while acknowledging I changed.

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Mattand  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:17:30pm

re: #20 mmmirele

Dunno if we talked about this, but flying while black and fat.

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I’m white and fat and have started flying first class when I can (and can afford it) to avoid the “my you’re LARRRRRGE” looks in coach. And I was thinking this morning how, as a white woman, I have barely an inkling into the black experience in America. This is yet another example.

Middle aged white guy here. White people are really fucking up this country. If any race needs to get their shit together, it’s us.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:19:19pm

The Internet Archive is like any other website — it’s vulnerable to hacking. But the evidence provided by Joy’s “cyber security expert” was laughably thin. If you’re going to claim hacking you have to have real solid evidence.

My take is that Joy genuinely didn’t remember some of those posts, asked around for someone who could check it out, then got hooked up with an “expert” who sold her a bill of goods. If she were trying to fool people about this, I don’t think she would have admitted to some of the posts last year when this first came up.

She should have just bitten the bullet and simply apologized for the newly discovered posts (which I saw myself at Internet Archive last year, by the way) and never mentioned hacking at all. She’s no computer expert herself, and probably didn’t realize how sketchy that expert’s evidence was, and how the whole world would start calling it out instantly.

But there’s another factor we shouldn’t ignore here — Joy is being deliberately targeted to destroy her career by elements of the far left, including the Greenwald cultists, because they think she’s not progressive enough for them, because she wasn’t a fan of Bernie Sanders, and because she’s gotten into it publicly more than once with Glenn Fucking Greenwald.

This is a hit job, folks. She handled it well the first time, but this time she stepped into the trap with both feet.

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Mattand  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:21:51pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

How do you not fucking remember making comments like that? You really honestly believe this was a one-off thing?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:25:54pm

re: #24 Mattand

How do you not fucking remember making comments like that? You really honestly believe this was a one-off thing?

It was 12 years ago, and she writes A LOT. I don’t think it’s that much of a stretch that she might not have remembered them. And keep in mind that in 2006, these kinds of casual gay-bashing comments were totally ordinary, even among left wing bloggers. (There’s an article at The Nation about this very point, with plenty of examples.)

Things have changed more than I think people realize since then.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:26:58pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

It was 12 years ago, and she writes A LOT. I don’t think it’s that much of a stretch that she might not have remembered them.

Yeah, I was just going to say that. If your job is communication, you say an awful lot of things in an awful short time period. Unless you’ve got a perfect memory, you’ll probably wind up forgetting 90% of it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:28:32pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

It was 12 years ago, and she writes A LOT. I don’t think it’s that much of a stretch that she might not have remembered them. And keep in mind that in 2006, these kinds of casual gay-bashing comments were totally ordinary, even among left wing bloggers. (There’s an article at The Nation about this very point, with plenty of examples.)

Things have changed more than I think people realize since then.

Yep. This, right here. I read stuff I wrote back in college (15 years ago) and I’m like “whoa, I actually fucking said that?!”

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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:30:51pm

re: #24 Mattand

It was pervasive, not a one-off time, which is why I don’t buy the excuses for one second. She may have not remembered specific posts, that’s not the problem. We rarely remember what we specifically wrote. The problem is that for an honest person there was zero reason to suggest any form of hacking (not that any hacker capable of doing a flawless job on the Wayback Machine would spend this knowledge to plant a few homophobic posts on a talk show host) since her writing these posts back then was not implausible in the first place. One may not know what one wrote anymore but one knows one’s general state of mind.

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wrenchwench  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:33:23pm

re: #28 Nyet

[…]

One may not know what one wrote anymore but one knows one’s general state of mind.

Which she has acknowledged and apologized for, right?

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Mattand  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:33:27pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

From the Vox article:

These are different from previous blog posts that Reid apologized for in December 2017. In those past posts, Reid wrote that then-Florida Gov. Charlie Crist was gay, nicknamed him “Miss Charlie,” and claimed that he only married a woman for political purposes. Reid said her comments were “insensitive, tone-deaf and dumb. There is no excusing it — not based on the taste-skewing mores of talk radio or the then-blogosphere, and not based on my intentions.” Crist, who’s now a member of Congress, accepted her apology.

This was from five months ago. Five months.

I didn’t know homophobia could lay dormant for a decade and a half and then remerge like a cicada.

I genuinely feel bad about the whole situation, as Reid is obviously a smart woman, and that a similar incident on Fox would result in the person getting a promotion.

But, Jesus Christ, she’s got a problem with gay people.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:34:33pm

re: #30 Mattand

From the Vox article:

This was from five months ago. Five months.

I didn’t know homophobia could lay dormant for a decade and a half and then remerge like a cicada.

I genuinely feel bad about the whole situation, as Reid is obviously a smart woman, and that a similar incident on Fox would result in the person getting a promotion.

But, Jesus Christ, she’s got a problem with gay people.

I think you’re misunderstanding — she apologized for those posts in 2017, but they were written on her blog at around the same time as the others.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:35:05pm

re: #30 Mattand

From the Vox article:

This was from five months ago. Five months.

I didn’t know homophobia could lay dormant for a decade and a half and then remerge like a cicada.

I genuinely feel bad about the whole situation, as Reid is obviously a smart woman, and that a similar incident on Fox would result in the person getting a promotion.

But, Jesus Christ, she’s got a problem with gay people.

Your timeline is off here. The posts about Charlie Crist were from the same timeframe as this current set. They came to light five months ago. She apologized then. Now more posts have been highlighted.

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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:35:37pm

re: #29 wrenchwench

Which is not the issue under discussion.

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Mattand  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:35:54pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

I think you’re misunderstanding — she apologized for those posts in 2017, but they were written on her blog at around the same time as the others.

I’m not misunderstanding anything. There’s plenty to criticize about Crist, but she went right to “Dude’s in the closet and his wife is a beard”.

That’s a pattern.

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thecommodore  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:36:12pm

While it is strange that the worst posts have zero comments, I am disappointed that she didn’t just own up to all of it. Some of the Twitter comments from LGBT folks are negative, and I don’t blame them, but her supporters seem to outnumber her detractors. So just getting right out in front of this wouldn’t hurt her long term. Plus the claims of being hacked don’t seem to hold much water from what I’ve read (but I have no idea how these things work so I really can’t say).

Joy has been a critical voice in the age of Trump and up until now was a rising star, but she has been damaged by this and only has herself to blame. And that makes me angry, sad, and worried. Because we can’t afford to lose a voice like hers, or have a voice like hers tainted by something like this, especially since it was all avoidable.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:37:05pm

re: #34 Mattand

I’m not misunderstanding anything. There’s plenty to criticize about Crist, but she went right to “Dude’s in the closet and his wife is a beard”.

That’s a pattern.

Dude you are. I remember this very well. She apologized for that in 2017 and Crist accepted her apology.

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makeitstop  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:37:42pm

re: #27 Eclectic Cyborg

Yep. This, right here. I read stuff I wrote back in college (15 years ago) and I’m like “whoa, I actually fucking said that?!”

There’s a lot of stuff that I and friends in the music world said 15 years ago that I’d never even think of saying now, and if someone quoted me on some of the things I said back then, I’d likely die of embarrassment.

A lot has changed in this century. I’m not a whole lot smarter now than I was then, but I am a lot more aware of how fucked up I and a lot of people I know in the music biz used to be.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:38:11pm

re: #32 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Your timeline is off here. The posts about Charlie Crist were from the same timeframe as this current set. They came to light five months ago. She apologized then. Now more posts have been highlighted.

Correct, I remember this quite well because Crist accepted her apology. I do think she could have handled this better but the whole thing just stinks big time.

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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:38:27pm

re: #30 Mattand

Those were the posts from roughly the same time period, not from a year ago.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:39:07pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

It was 12 years ago, and she writes A LOT. I don’t think it’s that much of a stretch that she might not have remembered them. And keep in mind that in 2006, these kinds of casual gay-bashing comments were totally ordinary, even among left wing bloggers. (There’s an article at The Nation about this very point, with plenty of examples.)

Things have changed more than I think people realize since then.

You may not remember your actual posts and how they were written.

But surely you remember how you felt about the issue all of your life.

And if you remember how you generally felt and how you probably talked about it all at that time in your life, then you pretty much know if you wrote something like that or not.

It is not writing about something unfamiliar that is easy to forget. You know yourself unless you have some kind of traumatic experience that wipes your past thoughts and feelings from your mind.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:39:12pm

I’m sure none of you melting tar and plucking feathers ever said or believed any things that now make you cringe. It must be nice to have such a clean conscience, to have never transgressed.
//

This Purity Patrol shit is we can’t have nice things.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:40:46pm

re: #41 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m sure none of you melting tar and plucking feathers ever said or believed any things that now make you cringe. It must be nice to have such a clean conscience, to have never transgressed.
//

This Purity Patrol shit is we can’t have nice things.

I myself am as innocent and pure as a newborn babe.

cough

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:41:10pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

It was 12 years ago, and she writes A LOT. I don’t think it’s that much of a stretch that she might not have remembered them. And keep in mind that in 2006, these kinds of casual gay-bashing comments were totally ordinary, even among left wing bloggers. (There’s an article at The Nation about this very point, with plenty of examples.)

Things have changed more than I think people realize since then.

We didn’t kill off prison rape jokes here until relatively recently.

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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:41:35pm

re: #41 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m sure none of you melting tar and plucking feathers ever said or believed any things that now make you cringe. It must be nice to have such a clean conscience, to have never transgressed.
//

This Purity Patrol shit is we can’t have nice things.

… said he after everyone and their dog have acknowledged to have written embarrassing things in the past.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:41:37pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

I myself am as innocent and pure as a newborn babe.

cough

I’m mostly grateful that, for the most part, I have managed to not immortalize my stupid shit online.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:42:57pm

re: #45 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m mostly grateful that, for the most part, I have managed to not immortalize my stupid shit online.

Some of mine is but it’s from my teenage years.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:42:57pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

I myself am as innocent and pure as a newborn babe.

cough

(just kidding, boss)

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:43:21pm

re: #29 wrenchwench

Which she has acknowledged and apologized for, right?

Yes, in a round about way. Which I think is what we are saying. But she dances around that admittance saying she didn’t think that way on those blogs in question only on others. That is a thin platform to stand on.

Reminder. I like Joy. I am with Charles in that she is under attack politically for other reasons not just this, which is the in to get her out.

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Mattand  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:43:30pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

re: #39 Nyet

Acknowledged. Sorry about that.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:43:51pm

About 18 years ago when I was 13, I had some pretty homophobic or at least immature views about gay people.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:43:57pm

OT because I really don’t see anything useful coming out of the various discussions here, as much as I love you all (or at least most of you), I am awaiting the results of the competition anxiously.

My entire family did quadruple takes to try and figure out which person was my sister when she was performing. Process of elimination got involved. Holy crap makeup can really throw things off.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:44:03pm

re: #49 Mattand

Acknowledged. Sorry about that.

No sweat dude.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:46:28pm

re: #30 Mattand

From the Vox article:

This was from five months ago. Five months.

I didn’t know homophobia could lay dormant for a decade and a half and then remerge like a cicada.

I genuinely feel bad about the whole situation, as Reid is obviously a smart woman, and that a similar incident on Fox would result in the person getting a promotion.

But, Jesus Christ, she’s got a problem with gay people.

She apologized 6 months ago for something written long before.

And i am behind.

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Mattand  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:48:04pm

Look, I’m a little antsy on this because I am in the graphics industry and have worked side-by-side with gay people for decades now. I really am not trying to come off like I’m sort of white knight for the gay community. That said, I have family and friends who still look at them like monstrous freaks.

I know people in the graphics industry who despite working with gay people, would be happy to see them legally discriminated against.

The woman who is basically my sister-in-law is gay, and my mother-in-law will go to her grave never forgiving her for her “sin”.

Reid has an obvious problem with gay people if she’s writing homophobic shit and then denying she did it. There’s a pattern here. I’m sorry if this is pissing everyone off, but that’s a fucking deal breaker for me, regardless of whether she’s on my side politically or not.

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makeitstop  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:48:32pm

Michael Cohen’s not long for Trumpworld. National Enquirer has gone to work.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:49:01pm

Meanwhile. Our current actual President made some pretty fucked up remarks about the Paralympics. From what I’ve seen, I do think Joy could have handled this better but at the same time, this really reeks of a team effort by far left/right to go after someone who’s been critical of them. I’m not saying she shouldn’t be criticized for the remarks or how she’s handled the controversy but Greenwald who has been silent as a church mouse about homophobia in Putin’s Russia and his adopted Brazil is a fraud.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:49:46pm

re: #54 Mattand

Look, I’m a little antsy on this because I am in the graphics industry and have worked side-by-side with gay people for decades now. I really am not trying to come off like I’m sort of white knight for the gay community. That said, I have family and friends who still look at them like monstrous freaks.

I know people in the graphics industry who despite working with gay people, would be happy to see them legally discriminated against.

The woman who is basically my sister-in-law is gay, and my mother-in-law will go to her grave never forgiving her for her “sin”.

Reid has an obvious problem with gay people if she’s writing homophobic shit and then denying she did it. I’m sorry if this is pissing everyone off, but that’s a fucking deal breaker for me, regardless of whether she’s on my side politically or not.

Dude you’re fine. I get it completely.

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wrenchwench  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:49:48pm

re: #33 Nyet

Which is not the issue under discussion.

I thought one of the subjects under discussion was her sincerity in her acknowledgement of some things and forgetfulness of others, and my comment was directly on that point. Or tried to be.

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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:50:46pm

re: #54 Mattand

I don’t think she does anymore. Her not being honest about the posts doesn’t mean she’s still homophobic.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:52:54pm

re: #51 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Her chorus won their division! Now waiting on overall awards…

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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:54:06pm

re: #58 wrenchwench

The newly uncovered posts are arguably worse than the stuff she apologized for last time. Might be the reason for “forgetfulness”.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:54:47pm

re: #44 Nyet

… said he after everyone and their dog have acknowledged to have written embarrassing things in the past.

Hey, hey, hey…I never acknowledged that.

Sweeping generalizations are sweeping!

: )

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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:55:16pm

re: #62 ObserverArt

Well, if we are being literal, the dog hasn’t either.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:55:51pm

re: #60 klys (maker of Silmarils)

They won overall!

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:56:13pm
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CleverToad  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:56:31pm

re: #60 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Her chorus won their division! Now waiting on overall awards…

Fingers crossed!
I like barbershop. Don’t know if I could listen to a whole day of it in competition, and don’t know enough to judge good from bad, but the harmonies can be neat.

EDIT: Double woot! Celebration is indicated

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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:56:36pm

re: #65 Charles Johnson

So it begins…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:57:19pm

re: #66 CleverToad

Fingers crossed!
I like barbershop. Don’t know if I could listen to a whole day of it in competition, and don’t know enough to judge good from bad, but the harmonies can be neat.

I didn’t listen to all of it. I went out and did my morning 5k in between.

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wrenchwench  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:57:49pm

re: #61 Nyet

The newly uncovered posts are arguably worse than the stuff she apologized for last time. Might be the reason for “forgetfulness”.

But she said she can understand why people would think she wrote the horrible ones, because she wrote other horrible ones.

A TBI is a great excuse for being forgetful, but so is being human.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:58:32pm

re: #60 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Her chorus won their division! Now waiting on overall awards…

Post YouTube video if it ever comes available, please.

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Interesting Times  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:58:39pm

re: #55 makeitstop

Michael Cohen’s not long for Trumpworld. National Enquirer has gone to work.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 28, 2018 • 1:59:19pm

re: #70 ObserverArt

There’s a livestream (and will be available recorded for 90 days) here.

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wrenchwench  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:01:07pm

re: #68 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I didn’t listen to all of it. I went out and did my morning 5k in between.

Junkie.

I’m still tired from my way less than 5k last Thursday.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:01:58pm

re: #63 Nyet

Well, if we are being literal, the dog hasn’t either.

I trust dogs.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:03:45pm

re: #73 wrenchwench

Junkie.

I’m still tired from my way less than 5k last Thursday.

>.>

My measure of what is normal is seriously skewed at this point. I blame dangerman.

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Nyet  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:04:15pm

re: #69 wrenchwench

I have already explained why I’m not buying this. I don’t think I can add anything to my explanation.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:06:35pm

We all say things that we regret. To err is to be human; to forgive is to be devine.

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wrenchwench  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:08:16pm

re: #75 klys (maker of Silmarils)

>.>

My measure of what is normal is seriously skewed at this point. I blame dangerman.

I pushed myself the Sunday before, for which I blame AMomAnon for telling me her 78 year old mom can do two miles without stopping, which I fudged on while going the distance. I walked a few steps each lap.

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BigPapa  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:08:40pm

i just read my 2008 posts. what a dumbass.

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Interesting Times  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:09:04pm

I believe LGF was making variations of this joke the other day; now you can haz it in easy meme form:

Facebook Post

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:09:41pm

re: #79 BigPapa

Same here. I have read some previous posts and I am embarrassed at what I said.

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The Major  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:10:03pm

re: #77 PhillyPretzel

To err is to be human; to forgive is to be devine.

Reminds me of a Bloom County strip back in the 1980s when “Fundamentally Oral Bill” got caught in a situation and went on TV and proclaimed: “God has forgiven me-can’t you?” and the couple watching said “Sure-let’s send him Billy’s college fund”….

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wrenchwench  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:10:13pm

re: #76 Nyet

I have already explained why I’m not buying this. I don’t think I can add anything to my explanation.

And I admit to looking for justification for believing whatever she said.

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terraincognita  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:10:59pm

re: #65 Charles Johnson

Another day, just another rolling inflated chicken… Nothing ever happens here (sigh)

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scottslemmons  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:11:36pm

Haven’t Greenwald or his one of his anti-Joy allies started making noise about targeting Kos and Rachel Maddow next? At this point, I assume they’re going to start going after everyone who’s non-Bernie-or-Glenn-approved.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:15:28pm

So, after posting that thoroughly repulsive thing from some incel*, I did, as I promised, take Rango for a walk. Poor bastard got shortchanged yesterday because instead of taking him for a walk, I was driving an adrenaline-fueled Mrs. FBW hither and yon preparing for a fundraiser for the afterschool tutoring organization where she works/volunteers.

It’s cloudy today, so it was relatively cool. But, after finding a tick on Rango the other day after walking the narrow trails up Sugarloaf Mountain, I decided to stick with wide trails and streets. But we still walked to the dam, where I took these three shots, all from the same place:

1) Looking up the canyon from the north side of the dam. Not sure what the structure is, but I suspect it’s something like the holes in your bathroom sink near the top that keep it from overflowing.

2) Looking across the top of the dam at the hills opposite.

3) Looking down the trail we’re about to take back to civilization…

And here’s Rango, tired but happy…

*Honestly, if that’s how they see women, and how men and women should interact, I’m surprised they have any friends of any variety. What a loathsome outlook on life!

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:16:42pm

re: #85 scottslemmons

Haven’t Greenwald or his one of his anti-Joy allies started making noise about targeting Kos and Rachel Maddow next? At this point, I assume they’re going to start going after everyone who’s non-Bernie-or-Glenn-approved.

And I remember when Greenwald was often on MSNBC as a contributor.

Seems so long ago.

I wonder what changed?

No, really, I don’t.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:17:43pm

re: #85 scottslemmons

Haven’t Greenwald or his one of his anti-Joy allies started making noise about targeting Kos and Rachel Maddow next? At this point, I assume they’re going to start going after everyone who’s non-Bernie-or-Glenn-approved.

I think Greenwald regrets some of the things he wrote in the early 2000’s, where he doesn’t come across as a complete asshole.

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Interesting Times  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:18:05pm

re: #87 ObserverArt

And I remember when Greenwald was often on MSNBC as a contributor.

Seems so long ago.

I wonder what changed?

No, really, I don’t.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:19:16pm

re: #89 Interesting Times

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Yep. If he’s going to drag Joy through the mud then it’s only fair that the same should happen to him.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:21:07pm

Berners continue with their idiotic attempt to blame Superdelegates for his losing the popular vote.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:22:11pm

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

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Berners continue with their idiotic attempt to blame Superdelegates for his losing the popular vote.

How did they overturn the Democratic voters in 2016?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:22:27pm

re: #91 goddamnedfrank

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Berners continue with their idiotic attempt to blame Superdelegates for his losing the popular vote.

He got a lower percentage of the vote than Hillary did in 2008. Bernie lost because he’s as idiotic as Republicans are when it comes to understanding minority communities.

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Skip Intro  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:22:28pm

re: #34 Mattand

I’m not misunderstanding anything. There’s plenty to criticize about Crist, but she went right to “Dude’s in the closet and his wife is a beard”.

That’s a pattern.

I remember saying that about Limbaugh.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:22:55pm

What I hate about Sanders is he shits on closed primaries but loves caucuses.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:23:23pm

re: #94 First Epistle of Paul to the Bagmen

I remember saying that about Limbaugh.

I’ve never thought Rush was gay but I bet there are some skeletons in his closet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:28:31pm

re: #40 ObserverArt

You may not remember your actual posts and how they were written.

But surely you remember how you felt about the issue all of your life.

And if you remember how you generally felt and how you probably talked about it all at that time in your life, then you pretty much know if you wrote something like that or not.

It is not writing about something unfamiliar that is easy to forget. You know yourself unless you have some kind of traumatic experience that wipes your past thoughts and feelings from your mind.

And that is EXACTLY what she acknowledged in her statement and apologized for.

I suppose she should have just slunk off into the mists of the former-somebodies and joined the growing ranks of the eternally shamed not-GOP, never to write another word or speak another public word ever again.
OTOH, even that probably wouldn’t satisfy the yammering “NOT GOOD ENOUGH” crowd.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:31:08pm

re: #95 HappyWarrior

What I hate about Sanders is he shits on closed primaries but loves caucuses.

I think he likes the fact that he has a vocal group that can dominate in that format. Especially when they get pushy and loud and others shy away.

Bernie doesn’t trust secret voting because he can’t control it.

He really fails at democracy.

I just wish he’d go away.

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TedStriker  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:31:39pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

And that is EXACTLY what she acknowledged in her statement and apologized for.

I suppose she should have just slunk off into the mists of the former-somebodies and joined the growing ranks of the eternally shamed not-GOP, never to write another word or speak another public word ever again.
OTOH, even that probably wouldn’t satisfy the yammering “NOT GOOD ENOUGH” crowd.

It hasn’t in regards to Hillary; weak cowards fear women with balls and brass.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:34:00pm

re: #98 ObserverArt

I think he likes the fact that he has a vocal group that can dominate in that format. Especially when they get pushy and loud and others shy away.

Bernie doesn’t trust secret voting because he can’t control it.

He really fails at democracy.

I just wish he’d go away.

Have to agree.

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freetoken  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:34:25pm

Downstairs someone posted a link to an article that included photos from the McMansion Hell blog. I had forgotten all about that site, so went to check out the posts over the last year.

One especially insightful McMansion:

50 States of McMansion Hell: Tulsa County, Oklahoma

Image: tumblr_inline_p19t8cQicK1sppt0x_1280.png

Image: tumblr_inline_p19tfnIYMr1sppt0x_1280.png

Antique Roadshow, 2026:

Announcer Bot 3000: My goodness! This is the largest collection of bland, mass produced art I have ever seen! Don’t you realize what this means?

Collector: *face brightens up in astonishment*

Announcer Bot 3000: You’re going to be a five-dollar-aire!

Collector: …oh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:34:33pm

re: #56 HappyWarrior

totally OT, but I ran across this twitter account earlier today and thought of you:

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:35:28pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:36:14pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

And that is EXACTLY what she acknowledged in her statement and apologized for.

I suppose she should have just slunk off into the mists of the former-somebodies and joined the growing ranks of the eternally shamed not-GOP, never to write another word or speak another public word ever again.
OTOH, even that probably wouldn’t satisfy the yammering “NOT GOOD ENOUGH” crowd.

I think you are missing my point. Are you saying she admits to the basic content of the posts in question, because I do not think that is what she was apologizing for because she still held to her stance she did not write them.

But you know what. It may be best to back out of this debate. It’s going to work out one way or the other. I still support her. All I can do.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:37:31pm

I wrote the other day about how I was accumulating the parts to put together a nice watch, which when finished would be completely authentic, but not original, and how I realized that I was buying all the parts from a couple people whose business model is to take a complete watch and sell off the case, the movement, the hands, and the dial separately.

Well, I have finished putting it back together. Completely authentic - every piece is appropriate for a Hamilton 992b as was sold in 1943, when the movement was made - and yet all sourced from different watches.

I told you it would be pretty when I finished, didn’t I? And I was right, wasn’t I?

One thing I observed while working on it is that, honestly, it’s a higher quality piece than the competing Elgin of the same time period. Hamilton was like Lincoln, compared to Elgin’s Chevrolet.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:37:58pm
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makeitstop  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:39:43pm

re: #84 terraincognita

Another day, just another rolling inflated chicken… Nothing ever happens here (sigh)

Weirdest tumbleweed I’ve ever seen.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:40:35pm

re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth

totally OT, but I ran across this twitter account earlier today and thought of you:

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Beautiful thanks!

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:42:16pm

From what I remember of 2016, had the superdelegates not voted, the winner would have been Hillary Clinton. So, what are they blabbing about?

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:42:35pm

OT Heavy weather headed toward Philly.
radar.weather.gov

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:43:25pm

re: #103 goddamnedfrank

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Revisionism is a hell of a drug.

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makeitstop  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:43:54pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

And that is EXACTLY what she acknowledged in her statement and apologized for.

I suppose she should have just slunk off into the mists of the former-somebodies and joined the growing ranks of the eternally shamed not-GOP, never to write another word or speak another public word ever again.
OTOH, even that probably wouldn’t satisfy the yammering “NOT GOOD ENOUGH” crowd.

[ makeitstop stands and applauds ]

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:44:15pm

re: #109 Belafon

From what I remember of 2016, had the superdelegates not voted, the winner would have been Hillary Clinton. So, what are they blabbing about?

Bernie wants to get rid of the SDs. I say they call his bluff and watch him squeal when he loses the pv again in 2020.

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BeachDem  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:49:42pm

re: #85 scottslemmons

Haven’t Greenwald or his one of his anti-Joy allies started making noise about targeting Kos and Rachel Maddow next? At this point, I assume they’re going to start going after everyone who’s non-Bernie-or-Glenn-approved.

Already happening:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:51:58pm

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

she is just so pathetic.

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Targetpractice  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:53:31pm

re: #109 Belafon

From what I remember of 2016, had the superdelegates not voted, the winner would have been Hillary Clinton. So, what are they blabbing about?

The Bros believe with all their heads that the SDs “unfairly” tilted the results of the primaries by endorsing Hillary. That if it hadn’t looked like the party was in the tank for her, then more people would have been willing to give Bernie a chance and he might have won more primaries as a result.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:55:22pm

Meanwhile the Berniebots are pushing an Independent candidate for Lieutenant Governor in California boosting the chances of a Republican winning…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:55:54pm

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

she is just so pathetic.

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I’d rather have the Caravaners than her trash family.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:56:19pm

re: #117 Joe Bacon 🌹

Meanwhile the Berniebots are pushing an Independent candidate for Lieutenant Governor in California boosting the chances of a Republican winning…

JFC. They’re pathetic.

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Interesting Times  Apr 28, 2018 • 2:59:46pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

I would have been much happier living my whole life without learning about these “incel” losers.

This article offers excellent analysis and takedown of these evil creeps, and the fact it’s written by a man who, for lack of better words, “looks the part” of an alpha should give it credence among clueless, privileged types inclined to dismiss the same arguments from a woman:

The involuntary celibate “incel” community is akin to a diabolical social experiment that took everything toxic about male attitudes towards women, set it aflame to boil off any remnant of rationality, locked it inside a nuclear reactor to force a horrific mutation, then gave it a bunch of hate porn to watch.

They see any effort at self-improvement as both futile and accepting of the “system” where women control all sexual encounters and reproduction. For them, women are not sentient human beings, but rather objects for their pleasure who have denied them such. And so, they are deserving only of hatred, rape, even death.

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BeachDem  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:01:46pm

re: #117 Joe Bacon 🌹

Meanwhile the Berniebots are pushing an Independent candidate for Lieutenant Governor in California boosting the chances of a Republican winning…

And they’re (Our Not My Revolution)endorsing Dennis Kucinich in Ohio, because why not make it even harder for Richard Cordray, a good guy, to have a chance to beat Mike fucking DeWine. Ugh

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:02:52pm

re: #114 BeachDem

Already happening:

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I like how Jamie deleted the tweet Markos replied to

And then puts up the tweet you showed. Markos handed her a clue and they threw it over their heads to pretend they didn’t see it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:08:08pm

re: #117 Joe Bacon 🌹

Meanwhile the Berniebots are pushing an Independent candidate for Lieutenant Governor in California boosting the chances of a Republican winning…

it’s what “Our Revolution” does best…

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Charmingly Persistent  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:08:48pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

My take is that Joy genuinely didn’t remember some of those posts, asked around for someone who could check it out, then got hooked up with an “expert” who sold her a bill of goods. If she were trying to fool people about this, I don’t think she would have admitted to some of the posts last year when this first came up.

This is what I think. She saw the stuff and said I don’t remember that! Maybe I was hacked! And then the “expert” confirmed the idea.

I entirely believe she has no memory of things she said and doesn’t really believe she said them, Most people have a highly inflated opinion of their own memory which is completely wrong.

Here’s an example: many years ago when I got married and didn’t change my name, my dad said that someday women would give up this nonsense of insisting on not changing their names. I told him I thought he would be happier about it since it is HIS name.

Fewer years ago, my dad married his current wife - who didn’t change her name. I said it’s a good thing you changed your mind about women not changing their names, huh? And he not only had no memory of ever saying that, he denied he ever felt that way or ever would have said it.

Of course I could be the one who is remembering wrong - but that doesn’t change my central point - people have terrible memories and don’t even know it.

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BeachDem  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:10:50pm

re: #122 Belafon

I like how Jamie deleted the tweet Markos replied to

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And then puts up the tweet you showed. Markos handed her a clue and they threw it over their heads to pretend they didn’t see it.

Has anyone figured out who Jamie Maz is? I’ve heard he and she, but most agree
“left-wing.”

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BeachDem  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:12:25pm

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

it’s what “Our Revolution” does best…

Which is why I was so pissed that Nina Turner was treated like a rock star at our state convention last week. Ugh.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:16:49pm

re: #126 BeachDem

Which is why I was so pissed that Nina Turner was treated like a rock star at our state convention last week. Ugh.

I don’t know what people see in her. She’s not effective.

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petesh  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:19:42pm

re: #124 Charmingly Persistent

Ah, yes, bad memories. I of course have a memory like a steel trap: I clearly recall saying in a small group that I had never been to Dorset; and my ex looking at me in bafflement and replying “Yes, you have, I was there.” Steel trap, I tell you. Oh wait, steel traps don’t have memories.

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VaughnIAM  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:20:53pm

Berners continue with their idiotic attempt to blame Superdelegates for his losing the popular vote.

What really ticks me off is that to this day they won’t admit that she had 359 more pledged delegates than he did.
Even if there had been no Superdelegate votes she would have still beat his ass.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:25:05pm

re: #125 BeachDem

Has anyone figured out who Jamie Maz is? I’ve heard he and she, but most agree
“left-wing.”

oh lookie…she’s a berner…
medium.com

The user @Jamie_Maz who in November went through Joy’s old blog posts through the so called WayBack machine never mentioned other blog posts, never mentioned there was more ‘homophobic’ content.

Now let me be absolutely clear: I do not have any evidence whether or not Joy Ann Reid’s recently surfaced blog posts were altered, added or whether or not they are genuine. That is also not the subject of this article: the subject is the excessive campaign to get Joy Ann Reid fired by the Bernie left.

I saw the same user @Jamie_Maz post the recently ‘found’ blog posts and at first this just led to great enthusiasm among the Bernie crowd on Twitter. The idea that they found something damaging on Joy Ann Reid was absolutely fantastic to this crowd of Bernie supporters: #FireJoyReid!

Let’s be absolutely clear: this campaign isn’t coming from trump supporters, or breitbart or right wing racists, this is coming from the racist Bernie left.

Although I have no evidence one way or the other it would NOT surprise me at all when in the end we find out this Bernie crowd altered the screenshots, because let’s face it: a crowd who contacts people’s employers with anonymous letters (as in the case of Humorless Kev), who starts internet campaigns to get people fired and posts racist pictures would be very willing to do this.

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petesh  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:25:22pm

re: #117 Joe Bacon 🌹

Meanwhile the Berniebots are pushing an Independent candidate for Lieutenant Governor in California boosting the chances of a Republican winning…

… from negligible to tiny. Not their most dangerous piece of idiocy.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:26:37pm

Former Democratic county chair, now turned Libertarian, denounces facial tats, suggests deportation. The party of freedom.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:28:44pm

re: #132 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Former Democratic county chair, now turned Libertarian, denounces facial tats, suggests deportation. The party of freedom.

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OK, Todd. Having dreams of massive amounts of people getting facial tattoos is not evidence, nor is “I see more people.” I trust Cole Sear’s vision more.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:29:58pm

re: #120 Interesting Times

Having read the article, and that thing I posted earlier, I really, truly wish I could buy back my previous state of not knowing about these people.

It’s the kind of thing that makes me wonder whether we’d all be better off without the internet, and I say that realizing the irony of wondering that ‘aloud’ on the internet, while holding a job which depends to a surprising extent on the internet. I mean, the cake is already baked, the cat is out of the bag, Pandora’s box is open. But still, the self-radicalizing nature of the internet is a problem.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:30:11pm

re: #132 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“vatos”

no freaking dogwhistle there…

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:30:16pm

OT Heavy weather incoming to Philly and surrounding area.
forecast.weather.gov

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jaunte  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:32:46pm

re: #132 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Former Democratic county chair, now turned Libertarian, denounces facial tats, suggests deportation. The party of freedom.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:34:50pm

re: #134 Blind Frog Belly White

Having read the article, and that thing I posted earlier, I really, truly wish I could buy back my previous state of not knowing about these people.

It’s the kind of thing that makes me wonder whether we’d all be better off without the internet, and I say that realizing the irony of wondering that ‘aloud’ on the internet, while holding a job which depends to a surprising extent on the internet. I mean, the cake is already baked, the cat is out of the bag, Pandora’s box is open. But still, the self-radicalizing nature of the internet is a problem.

The internet is transformative, for sure, but I personally think the only thing the internet contributed to “incel” is that these guys got together and came up with a team name. There were assaults and rapes before the internet.

How about the flip side? I think it would have been much harder to bring down Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby without the internet, because it would have been harder for these women to go “Hey, that’s what my story sounds like.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:39:28pm
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petesh  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:39:55pm

Many people suck.

That’s my considered conclusion, and off I go to cut the weeds. Have a lovely weekend.

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Teukka  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:41:00pm

re: #134 Blind Frog Belly White

Having read the article, and that thing I posted earlier, I really, truly wish I could buy back my previous state of not knowing about these people.

It’s the kind of thing that makes me wonder whether we’d all be better off without the internet, and I say that realizing the irony of wondering that ‘aloud’ on the internet, while holding a job which depends to a surprising extent on the internet. I mean, the cake is already baked, the cat is out of the bag, Pandora’s box is open. But still, the self-radicalizing nature of the internet is a problem.

Also, ethics. I mean, I know that there are people making money out of these self-radicalized hate groups (of which incels are just one), as well as getting their power “fix” from floating to the surface in the cesspool. All those people do is to aggravating a toxicity which is already violent and homicidal.
I’ve noticed this trait of many “radical” groups and the people who pander to them, that you merely have to scratch the surface to notice that it is someone’s moneymaking machine or local tower of power.
*ends ranting and hissing*

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:41:03pm

Asahi Shinbun website has headline stating that “Prime Minister receives explanation of Korean situation from Trump”:

“Shinzo, I made peace for all time in East Asia. Could you get your papers to write that about me?” /////

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:41:35pm

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yep. You know what, there’s not a single President in the past I can imagine doing this. He’s such a pathetic asshole. He’s the last person who should be belittling anyone considering his bloated ass.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:44:24pm

re: #143 HappyWarrior

Yep. You know what, there’s not a single President in the past I can imagine doing this. He’s such a pathetic asshole. He’s the last person who should be belittling anyone considering his bloated ass.

But there’s never been a healthier President. Ronny Jackson said so. That just confirms what Trump already knew to be true.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:46:01pm

re: #86 Blind Frog Belly White
Took the cat for a nap…

Facebook Post

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:46:56pm

If you have yet to see images of it, here’s a google image search of the The National Memorial for Peace and Justice, in Montgomery, AL. Commonly referred to as the Lynching Memorial

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:47:52pm

re: #124 Charmingly Persistent

This is what I think. She saw the stuff and said I don’t remember that! Maybe I was hacked! And then the “expert” confirmed the idea.

I entirely believe she has no memory of things she said and doesn’t really believe she said them, Most people have a highly inflated opinion of their own memory which is completely wrong.

Here’s an example: many years ago when I got married and didn’t change my name, my dad said that someday women would give up this nonsense of insisting on not changing their names. I told him I thought he would be happier about it since it is HIS name.

Fewer years ago, my dad married his current wife - who didn’t change her name. I said it’s a good thing you changed your mind about women not changing their names, huh? And he not only had no memory of ever saying that, he denied he ever felt that way or ever would have said it.

Of course I could be the one who is remembering wrong - but that doesn’t change my central point - people have terrible memories and don’t even know it.

I am reminded of Robert Frost’s poem, “The Road Not Taken”. Everyone remembers the last three lines and believes the poem to be about plotting your own course in life:

Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.

If you read the whole poem, Frost is saying that the two paths were nearly identical, and choosing one over the other was more a whim than a moment of decision. But years hence you will remember it differently, that rather than dithering and eventually basically flipping a coin, instead you made a courageous choice and it was the making of you.

Regarding the plasticity of memories, I’ve mentioned before reciting the ‘All The Things You Can Make With Shrimp’ list that Bubba goes through in Forrest Gump - “Bahled shreeump. Frahed Shreeump. Shreeump Dah-ann…” I always said, “Shreeump Etouffee”, and I clearly remember him saying it.

He never said it.

But I still remember him saying it. That’s one reason when Mrs. FBW says I said or did something I don’t remember saying or doing, I no longer said, “I never said/did that!” Instead, I say, “I really don’t remember saying/doing that!”

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Bubblehead II  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:48:02pm

re: #9 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

We have?

[Checks comment history.]

Shit.

Afternoon Lizards.

Yep. I have had to make more than a few mea culpas for some real asinine posts because I disregarded the “Iron Fist” rule. Thankfully our Host/Stinky didn’t hit me with the ban hammer. Though I think I came close a time or two.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:49:05pm

re: #145 Unshaken Defiance

Took the cat for a nap…

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I went downstairs earlier to print something for Mrs. Fish. I looked around for my feline overlords, but didn’t have to look far - they were both firmly ensconced on one of the recliners, giving me that, “What? No, we weren’t collaborating on a plan to bring about your doom, whatever would make you think that?” look. Needless to say, I exited the basement posthaste.

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BigPapa  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:49:21pm

What was the Iron Fist rule? Sorta foggy on it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:49:27pm

re: #145 Unshaken Defiance

Took the cat for a nap…

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Complete with derp!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:49:41pm

re: #150 BigPapa

What was the Iron Fist rule? Sorta foggy on it.

If you think you’re too drunk to post, you are too drunk to post.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:50:31pm

re: #148 Bubblehead II

Afternoon Lizards.

Yep. I have had to make more than a few mea culpas for some real asinine posts because I disregarded the “Iron Fist” rule. Thankfully our Host/Stinky didn’t hit me with the ban hammer. Though I think I came close a time or two.

I’ve done a few of those, but most of my skeletons are because I joined up when I was still in the process of falling off the derp wagon. I used to be a real asshole.

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Bubblehead II  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:55:32pm

re: #150 BigPapa

What was the Iron Fist rule? Sorta foggy on it.

If you think you’re to drunk to post, you are. So don’t do it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:57:18pm

re: #138 Belafon

The internet is transformative, for sure, but I personally think the only thing the internet contributed to “incel” is that these guys got together and came up with a team name. There were assaults and rapes before the internet.

How about the flip side? I think it would have been much harder to bring down Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby without the internet, because it would have been harder for these women to go “Hey, that’s what my story sounds like.”

I think a lot of how bad things like the Trumpkins, white supremacists (but I repeat myself), conspiracy theorists (but I…aw, fuck it), MRAs have gotten, both in number and intensity of hate and craziness, is because they can find each other and work like feed forward activation.

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The Major  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:59:15pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

Yep. If he’s going to drag Joy through the mud then it’s only fair that the same should happen to him.

He’s living in a country (and city) that kills more LGBT’s than we do - makes me wonder what kind of security detail is being provided him….

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dangerman  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:59:18pm

re: #20 mmmirele

Dunno if we talked about this, but flying while black and fat.

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(click through for the thread)

I’m white and fat and have started flying first class when I can (and can afford it) to avoid the “my you’re LARRRRRGE” looks in coach. And I was thinking this morning how, as a white woman, I have barely an inkling into the black experience in America. This is yet another example.

It’s an airplane. A public conveyance. Not your private convenience

Some people, not you..the white lady on the plane, are fucking children

Called the cops because “mommm! She won’t stop touching me!!!”

I weep for humankind

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2018 • 3:59:56pm

re: #155 Blind Frog Belly White

I think a lot of how bad things like the Trumpkins, white supremacists (but I repeat myself), conspiracy theorists (but I…aw, fuck it), MRAs have gotten, both in number and intensity of hate and craziness, is because they can find each other and work like feed forward activation.

As long as you’re comparing that to history. The KKK didn’t need the internet.

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Teukka  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:00:47pm

TFW when one of your favorite groups release a new album without you noticing… Shameless plug:

EVANESCENCE - “My Immortal” (Official Audio - Synthesis)

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Teukka  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:01:36pm

...

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Targetpractice  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:02:24pm

No honor among thieves:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:06:15pm

re: #158 Belafon

As long as you’re comparing that to history. The KKK didn’t need the internet.

True, but they also were operating in an environment where the part of society that was dominant openly agreed with their goals.

The groups I listed were, at least until recently, widely thought of as fringe crazies - your wingnut uncle who’d talk about crazy Bircher shit at Thanksgiving and everyone would just look at him and roll their eyes. Now he can find hundreds or thousands of people online who will tell him that not only is all that crazy shit he thinks TRUE, but that reality is EVEN WORSE!!!

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freetoken  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:06:55pm

re: #161 Targetpractice

As Cohen’s fate inches towards prison, Trump will have to find a way to sweep him under the rug.

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dangerman  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:08:04pm

re: #65 Charles Johnson

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This put today in perspective for me

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BeachDem  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:09:18pm

re: #156 The Major

He’s living in a country (and city) that kills more LGBT’s than we do - makes me wonder what kind of security detail is being provided him….

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:09:44pm

re: #162 Blind Frog Belly White

True, but they also were operating in an environment where the part of society that was dominant openly agreed with their goals.

The groups I listed were, at least until recently, widely thought of as fringe crazies - your wingnut uncle who’d talk about crazy Bircher shit at Thanksgiving and everyone would just look at him and roll their eyes. Now he can find hundreds or thousands of people online who will tell him that not only is all that crazy shit he thinks TRUE, but that reality is EVEN WORSE!!!

I do wonder what goes through these people’s heads when their 30 person majority is surrounded by 2,000 counterprotesters.

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dangerman  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:10:11pm

re: #73 wrenchwench

Junkie.

I’m still tired from my way less than 5k last Thursday.

Keep those feet flying! We are all duffers.

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scottslemmons  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:11:33pm

re: #130 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh lookie…she’s a berner…
medium.com

Hardcore Berners are as racist, as extremist, as deranged as any Tiki-torch Trumper.

And honestly, I have suspicions that Bernie is as compromised with the Russians as Trump is, too. Probably nothing as crass as the pee tape — likely financial or ideological or something like that. >:(

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Skip Intro  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:11:56pm

Christian DJ is accused of raping a teen. Radio station: Pray for ‘all those involved’

Right.

sanluisobispo.com

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:12:52pm

re: #166 Belafon

I do wonder what goes through these people’s heads when their 30 person majority is surrounded by 2,000 counterprotesters.

Cognitive dissonance, the discomfort of which gets soothed when somebody says, “Sure there are more of them - Soros paid them to show up! We’re Regular People, with jobs! They’re professional protestors!”

And the sheer silliness of this doesn’t occur to them, because that would make htem uncomfortable again.

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dangerman  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:14:02pm

re: #75 klys (maker of Silmarils)

>.>

My measure of what is normal is seriously skewed at this point. I blame dangerman.

70 minutes today
2 hrs slated for tomorrow
Slackers!

(I wasn’t gonna. Mrs dm made me write this)

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meteor  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:15:01pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:15:08pm

re: #171 dangerman

70 minutes today
2 hrs slated for tomorrow
Slackers!

(I wasn’t gonna. Mrs dm made me write this)

Strava I did the math and if I run 5 miles tomorrow and then 14 on Monday it’ll be 600 even since January 1.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:15:49pm

re: #173 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Strava I did the math and if I run 5 miles tomorrow and then 14 on Monday it’ll be 600 even since January 1.

Ugh. You runners are just a bunch of really odd ducks.

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Targetpractice  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:16:37pm

re: #168 scottslemmons

Hardcore Berners are as racist, as extremist, as deranged as any Tiki-torch Trumper.

And honestly, I have suspicions that Bernie is as compromised with the Russians as Trump is, too. Probably nothing as crass as the pee tape — likely financial or ideological or something like that. >:(

Much like Trump, I think the appeal of Russia to Bernie is the authoritarian regime that Putin maintains to keep himself in power. Both men love the idea of a system where they can simply exert their will and make things happen. That their opponents can be silenced through “investigations” or less…reputable means is a bonus.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:17:33pm

re: #174 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ugh. You runners are just a bunch of really odd ducks.

I have photos of me and danger at mile 12 (nearly mile 13) and we are grinning.

Well. I will have them once I pay Disney a stupid amount of money for the pictures. On this weekend’s to do list.

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wrenchwench  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:19:15pm

re: #172 meteor

[squeek-a squeek-a wheedally wheedally whiddly whoo]

I heard a mocking bird say this yesterday.

Imagine, mocking Korbin the Budgie! The nerve!

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meteor  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:20:49pm

re: #177 wrenchwench

Yeah.

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dangerman  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:21:33pm

re: #171 dangerman

70 minutes today
2 hrs slated for tomorrow
Slackers!

(I wasn’t gonna. Mrs dm made me write this)

seriously, though

whoever you are; you run you.

don’t consider me…or anyone else

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:22:01pm

re: #173 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Strava I did the math and if I run 5 miles tomorrow and then 14 on Monday it’ll be 600 even since January 1.

I’ve walked 240 miles so far this year.

600 running is freaking awesome.

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BeachDem  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:22:16pm

re: #161 Targetpractice

No honor among thieves:

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But that piece under the Cohen screamer—when exactly did the yam pass a polygraph to prove NO COLLUSION111TY!!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:22:46pm

Nevah.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:23:54pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:24:16pm

re: #181 BeachDem

But that piece under the Cohen screamer—when exactly did the yam pass a polygraph to prove NO COLLUSION111TY!!

Better yet, had he taken and passed a polygraph, would he have kept silent about such? I don’t believe that for a fucking second.

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dangerman  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:24:19pm

re: #103 goddamnedfrank

for the last time, ‘redistribution of sex’ just means

….socialist sex?

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Targetpractice  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:25:06pm

re: #183 Belafon

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“THEY’RE ALL RACIST!!!”

“Uh, Snoop Dog is black.”

“HE’S STILL A RACIST!!!!”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:25:07pm

re: #146 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

If you have yet to see images of it, here’s a google image search of the The National Memorial for Peace and Justice, in Montgomery, AL. Commonly referred to as the Lynching Memorial

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I thought they were about preserving history. Oh wait only history they’re proud of like secession.

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Targetpractice  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:25:25pm

re: #185 dangerman

….socialist sex?

To each according to his need?

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Stanley Sea  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:26:11pm

re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

she is just so pathetic.

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Sell the tea & shut up.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:30:21pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:31:20pm

re: #125 BeachDem

Has anyone figured out who Jamie Maz is? I’ve heard he and she, but most agree
“left-wing.”

Burn it dowm

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:34:54pm

re: #192 GlutenFreeJesus

Uh, CNN? No Democrat believes this. Literally none.

The big myth about the 2016 presidential election was that economic suffering drove most of Donald Trump’s “base” directly into his hands in states such as Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.

To be my fair, my mom bought it. I think she just didn’t want to see that it was bigotry that drove so many Trumpers. She hates Trump of course but it’s nice to finally see the economic anxiety bs called outt by CNN.

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Targetpractice  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:34:54pm

re: #192 GlutenFreeJesus

Uh, CNN? No Democrat believes this. Literally none.

The big myth about the 2016 presidential election was that economic suffering drove most of Donald Trump’s “base” directly into his hands in states such as Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.

Right, that was the myth that the press bought into, in an effort to “normalize” his election by insisting that he was just an outgrowth of a “populist movement.”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:35:58pm

re: #194 Targetpractice

Right, that was the myth that the press bought into, in an effort to “normalize” his election by insisting that he was just an outgrowth of a “populist movement.”

Sanders has aided that myth too.

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:36:29pm

re: #192 GlutenFreeJesus

Please pardon me for being very blunt Conservatives were taken in by a con-man and they still believe that he will make America great again. That and these conservatives were not ready to have a female President.

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freetoken  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:38:13pm

Still trawling through the McMansion Hell blog for laughs … she’s a witty writer.

The tastelessness of the wanna-be new-rich:

Image: tumblr_inline_oe9z0x8EGV1sppt0x_1280.png

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Stanley Sea  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:41:27pm

re: #184 Targetpractice

Better yet, had he taken and passed a polygraph, would he have kept silent about such? I don’t believe that for a fucking second.

The collusion continues.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:42:18pm

I think for many white liberals we just couldn’t accept that social anxiety was the real driving force behind Trumpism because we didn’t want to see the worst from those we know.

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Targetpractice  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:42:57pm

re: #190 Belafon

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The end goal is the same as that with Al Franken: Silencing a critic, a voice that tempers progressivism with pragmatism, and in doing so laying further groundwork to more easily silence such voices in the future.

It’s the same pattern: Keep “finding” new victims/blog posts that are worse than the last, creating a stink so strong that even adamant supporters feel “something” must be done.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:46:28pm

I’ve watched Joy’s opening statement twice now. I agree that it’s upsetting that she didn’t just say “I wrote it, I’m sorry” right out front. But she admits that the cyber security expert couldn’t prove it and then goes on a 10 minute apology and plea for (herself included) to keep doing better. I can understand now why she is getting massive support from colleagues and high-profile media people from the LGBTQ community (with qualifications, of course).

Greenwald is clearly trying to push a divide. Screw him and anyone who is lining up with this agenda.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:46:38pm

Finally at the end of a thread. Friends came over today to check out my new digs and discuss moving up our cross country date. We got lunch at the butcher I’ve spoken about before. My sandwich, roast beef with Incredible toppings weighed a pound. It’s in my refrigerator waiting for me to cut 1/4 Maybe. This eating out thing is not good for my health. Keep me in your prayers.

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Chrysicat  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:47:05pm
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Belafon  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:51:18pm

re: #192 GlutenFreeJesus

Uh, CNN? No Democrat believes this. Literally none.

The big myth about the 2016 presidential election was that economic suffering drove most of Donald Trump’s “base” directly into his hands in states such as Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.

No Democrat that spends it’s free time on blogs s surprised. Other Democrats would be more surprised.

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Single-handed sailor  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:51:47pm

I wish I was there to see this.

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scottslemmons  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:52:45pm

re: #201 Barefoot Grin

I’ve watched Joy’s opening statement twice now. I agree that it’s upsetting that she didn’t just say “I wrote it, I’m sorry” right out front. But she admits that the cyber security expert couldn’t prove it and then goes on a 10 minute apology and plea for (herself included) to keep doing better. I can understand now why she is getting massive support from colleagues and high-profile media people from the LGBTQ community (with qualifications, of course).

Greenwald is clearly trying to push a divide. Screw him and anyone who is lining up with this agenda.

Greenwald is, for all intents and purposes, a Trump-supporting Republican. If he says he wants something, I’m pretty sure I want the opposite.

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Targetpractice  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:53:16pm

And I’ll say upfront that I fully expect to pop in here at a future date and hear the argument being made that the latest “found” blog posts indicate a pattern, that Reid is an unrepentant homophobe, and for all the good she does she needs to go so that others on MSNBC are not harmed by a continuing controversy and if she won’t go voluntarily then she needs to be fired.

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BeachDem  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:53:41pm

I’m willing to bet that until this week, the yam couldn’t have picked Tester out of a lineup.

Bring it, asshole.

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Targetpractice  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:57:06pm

re: #208 BeachDem

I’m willing to bet that until this week, the yam couldn’t have picked Tester out of a lineup.

Bring it, asshole.

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In a year when everybody and their dog is expecting a blue wave in November, almost entirely driven by hatred of Trump and loyalty by Republicans to him, he thinks the smartest thing he can do to defeat Tester is to personally attack him?

Go for it, Donny. Do as you did with Northam, Jones, and Lamb. Make it your personal project to defeat Tester by attacking him and accusing him of personal disloyalty to you.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:57:21pm

Idiot RW friend of a friend: Democrats need to get aggressive and tough on Twitter like Trump is if they ever want to get the White House again!

I just walked away.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:57:48pm

re: #197 freetoken

Still trawling through the McMansion Hell blog for laughs … she’s a witty writer.

The tastelessness of the wanna-be new-rich:

Image: tumblr_inline_oe9z0x8EGV1sppt0x_1280.png

If I walked in there I would assume it was a Whore House

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 4:58:33pm

re: #210 Eclectic Cyborg

Idiot RW friend of a friend: Democrats need to get aggressive and tough on Twitter like Trump is on Twitter if they ever want to get the White House again!

I just walked away.

Yeah Trump is so “tough” on Twitter. Nope he’s just an orange coward.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:00:07pm

re: #208 BeachDem

I’m willing to bet that until this week, the yam couldn’t have picked Tester out of a lineup.

Bring it, asshole.

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Tester’s crime: not rolling over to prevent Trump being revealed - again - as a lazy idiot who makes big choices on a whim.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:00:18pm

If a Dem talked anywhere close to Trump, FNC would hsve thei fainting couches ready.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:01:29pm

Trump is just mad that Tester exposed Trump’s terrible judgment yet again.

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Targetpractice  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:01:35pm

re: #210 Eclectic Cyborg

Idiot RW friend of a friend: Democrats need to get aggressive and tough on Twitter like Trump is on Twitter if they ever want to get the White House again!

I just walked away.

From the same people who will bitch up a storm that Democrats being “too confrontational” and “too mean” to win their votes away from Republicans.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:02:58pm

he’s being a moron in Michigan:

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:04:19pm

This is interesting too:

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Targetpractice  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:05:14pm

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

he’s being a moron in Michigan:

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Anybody remember when Donny promised he was gonna get Boeing to come in cheaper on the replacements for Air Force One?

And then we found out a year later that they’re actually going to be even more expensive than the estimate at the time he promised to force them to come down on?

Good times.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:05:18pm

re: #218 Barefoot Grin

This is interesting too:

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Glenn really just needs to go the fuck away.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:05:45pm

re: #174 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ugh. You runners are just a bunch of really odd ducks.

I’m perfectly content to be a cheerleader on the sidelines.
Sitting down in a comfy chair.
Sipping a lovely cool beverage.

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Targetpractice  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:06:04pm

re: #218 Barefoot Grin

This is interesting too:

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Yeah, who didn’t see that coming?

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Targetpractice  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:08:55pm

By the way, I love how Glenn tried to play white knight for the LGBT crowd who were “harmed” by Joy’s old blog posts, only to immediately dismiss them when they accept her apology to scream that his white knighting was “always” about the hacking story.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:12:14pm

re: #223 Targetpractice

By the way, I love how Glenn tried to play white knight for the LGBT crowd who were “harmed” by Joy’s old blog posts, only to immediately dismiss them when they accept her apology to scream that his white knighting was “always” about the hacking story.

Was there ever a time when Greenwald WASN’T a dick?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:13:27pm

re: #224 Blind Frog Belly White

Was there ever a time when Greenwald WASN’T a dick?

Nope. He’s been insufferable since day one.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:14:40pm

re: #219 Targetpractice

Anybody remember when Donny promised he was gonna get Boeing to come in cheaper on the replacements for Air Force One?

And then we found out a year later that they’re actually going to be even more expensive than the estimate at the time he promised to force them to come down on?

Good times.

Or how about all those jobs he saved at Carrier, only for them to wind up outsourcing them all last year?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:16:48pm

re: #224 Blind Frog Belly White

Was there ever a time when Greenwald WASN’T a dick?

Not that I know of.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:17:21pm

re: #225 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Nope. He’s been insufferable since day one.

Some are born insufferable, some acquire insufferability, and some have insufferability thrust upon them.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:17:58pm

re: #228 Blind Frog Belly White

Some are born insufferable, some acquire insufferability, and some have insufferability thrust upon them.

And right now, 61% of the United States, along with much of the free world, is in that latter category.

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Targetpractice  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:19:44pm

The person “finding” these blog posts is a Berner and the person leading the lynch mob is an insufferable dick with a history of blatant hypocrisy.

I’m not saying that I believe Joy’s explanation, what I am saying is “Consider the source.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:19:57pm

re: #224 Blind Frog Belly White

Was there ever a time when Greenwald WASN’T a dick?

Was there ever a time that Greenwald wasn’t pushing Russian propaganda?

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Stanley Sea  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:20:06pm

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

he’s being a moron in Michigan:

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Gaslighting by potus.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:21:09pm

I refuse to listen to President Asshole. Instead I’m watching Original Dr. Who on BritBox.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:21:30pm

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m perfectly content to be a cheerleader on the sidelines.
Sitting down in a comfy chair.
Sipping a lovely cool beverage.

I have my first marathon chosen. (I’m not registered yet but that’s because registration isn’t open.)

mr. klys’s job is to meet me at the finish with a margarita.

Gotta replace those electrolytes, you know.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:21:30pm

re: #233 Joe Bacon 🌹

I refuse to listen to President Asshole. Instead I’m watching Original Dr. Who on BritBox.

And I’m watching some more of the New Who. I should continue on the classic Who at some point.

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Targetpractice  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:23:12pm

re: #235 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And I’m watching some more of the New Who. I should continue on the classic Who at some point.

I really need to catch up before October. I admit I stopped watching after Capaldi’s first season because the whole Doctor/Clara dynamic had become rather toxic in my eyes. I understand it got better in his second season, but it’s still hard for me to stomach the whole thing.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:23:14pm

I still remember WQED in Pittsburgh showing some of the Hartnell Dr. Who episodes in the mid 60s. It’s a shame that there are many Hartnell and Troughton episodes lost…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:24:40pm

Also, I love the Peter Cushing Dr. Who movies.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:25:29pm

re: #236 Targetpractice

I really need to catch up before October. I admit I stopped watching after Capaldi’s first season because the whole Doctor/Clara dynamic had become rather toxic in my eyes. I understand it got better in his second season, but it’s still hard for me to stomach the whole thing.

Yeah, really Capaldi got kinda shafted in his companions. Clara’s storyline with him was awful, and Bill Potts seemed flat and one-dimensional. I’m looking forward to a new Doctor and a new companion.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:26:55pm

re: #223 Targetpractice

By the way, I love how Glenn tried to play white knight for the LGBT crowd who were “harmed” by Joy’s old blog posts, only to immediately dismiss them when they accept her apology to scream that his white knighting was “always” about the hacking story.

Personally, I found it illuminating (and totally LMAO) when he said “…people don’t care if journalists lie as long as the journalist in question shares their ideology & partisan affiliation.”

Talk about pot/kettle, self awareness, cognitive dissonance.

What a fucking fraud he is.

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Varek Raith  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:28:17pm

Sorry, this a non apology apology.
She still doesn’t admit she posted this homophobic shit, and worse, she lied about being hacked.

Look, I get it.
We’ve said stupid shit in the past. I was once an AGW denier. BUT AT NO POINT did I lie or make excuses for my stupidity. I fucked up.
/Rant over

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majii  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:29:11pm

re: #199 HappyWarrior “I think for many white liberals we just couldn’t accept that social anxiety was the real driving force behind Trumpism because we didn’t want to see the worst from those we know.”

I guess I never bought the “they voted for Trump because of economic anxiety” BS because as a black female who survived America’s Jim Crow Era, I know that racism and bigotry are still very much alive and thriving in America. My life experience has provided me with a different perspective when it comes to viewing and dealing with racism, bigotry, religious differences, and economic and social culture issues. In a way, I am the manifestation of the American Dream that some others in this country are working to suppress, oppress, and destroy because of their fear of being “replaced and dominated.” What these persons don’t seem to understand is that in general, POC, those who practice religions other than Christianity, and LGBTQ Americans don’t want to suppress, oppress, destroy, replace or dominate them, and we don’t hate them. We only want to be viewed as their equals and allowed to exercise our constitutional rights the same way that they do. That I have had a successful life in spite of facing many adversities says to me that those who have sought to “keep me in my place” have failed. I, and many others, including LGBTQ Americans, other POC, and religious groups not comprised of Christians, are using the system as it was designed to make better lives for ourselves and our families and shall continue to do so. Even though they seem to think they can, they can’t stop progress or demographic change from happening forever, and I think they will eventually be forced to acknowledge that they will become the minority in America and every negative aspect of those changes that they are predicting most likely won’t happen. Why not? Because those they’re bent on keeping in subjugation aren’t the assholes that they are. I’ve mentioned before here at LGF that the main reason I will never attempt to deprive any other person or group in this country of their civil rights is because I know exactly what it is like to live that way, and I adamantly refuse to treat a fellow citizen or human being the way I have been, and am sometimes still, treated.

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dangerman  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:29:42pm

the caption is either:

- some of that cornish hen over here?
or
- is that potato and kale soup!

i’m not sure which

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:30:06pm

re: #233 Joe Bacon 🌹

I refuse to listen to President Asshole. Instead I’m watching Original Dr. Who on BritBox.

I’m watching Jon Pertwee in The Ambassadors of Death.

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Varek Raith  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:30:11pm

That out of the way, WTF is with the Nats?!
/Disgruntled fan

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:30:17pm

re: #234 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have my first marathon chosen. (I’m not registered yet but that’s because registration isn’t open.)

mr. klys’s job is to meet me at the finish with a margarita.

Gotta replace those electrolytes, you know.

Cool. I wish(not really) I could run a marathon.

I’ve been training to run a MURPH (Crossfit workout) 4th of July. Just want to make sure I don’t die///kinda///

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Targetpractice  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:30:19pm

re: #239 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yeah, really Capaldi got kinda shafted in his companions. Clara’s storyline with him was awful, and Bill Potts seemed flat and one-dimensional. I’m looking forward to a new Doctor and a new companion.

I feel Capaldi’s three seasons suffer not only because he sort of got stuck with Smith’s hand-me-downs, but also because it became obvious by the third season that Moffat was just totally tapped for ideas. I hope that the change in the captain’s chair brings some new life to the whole mess, but I’m gonna temper that hope with the reality that the BBC is generally hesitant to embrace change.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:32:23pm

re: #244 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I’m watching Jon Pertwee in The Ambassadors of Death.

I love Pertwee! He was so good in The House That Dripped Blood!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:33:55pm

re: #247 Targetpractice

I feel Capaldi’s three seasons suffer not only because he sort of got stuck with Smith’s hand-me-downs, but also because it became obvious by the third season that Moffat was just totally tapped for ideas. I hope that the change in the captain’s chair brings some new life to the whole mess, but I’m gonna temper that hope with the reality that the BBC is generally hesitant to embrace change.

Yeah. I think Capaldi did the best he could with what he was given, and he is my favorite Doctor, but that’s despite the writing, not because of it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:34:44pm

re: #248 Joe Bacon 🌹

I love Pertwee! He was so good in The House That Dripped Blood!

He and Tom Baker were my favorite Doctors

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:35:26pm

re: #245 Varek Raith

That out of the way, WTF is with the Nats?!
/Disgruntled fan

Don’t fire Dusty Baker

Signed, Reds Fan

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:37:20pm

re: #234 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have my first marathon chosen. (I’m not registered yet but that’s because registration isn’t open.)

mr. klys’s job is to meet me at the finish with a margarita.

Gotta replace those electrolytes, you know.

My first marathon was in Akita Japan, but my second was the Marine Corps Marathon. I almost kissed a marine when I finished.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:38:08pm

re: #234 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have my first marathon chosen. (I’m not registered yet but that’s because registration isn’t open.)

mr. klys’s job is to meet me at the finish with a margarita.

Gotta replace those electrolytes, you know.

That sounds like a very Mrs. Fish thing to say.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:38:58pm

re: #250 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He and Tom Morton were my favorite Doctors

Tom Morton? You mean Tom Baker?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:39:37pm

re: #254 Blind Frog Belly White

Tom Morton? You mean Tom Baker?

thank you, yes, will go back and fix

I have not followed Dr Who in ages, literally since the 70’s, but I used to wear a long army trenchcoat with brass buttons and an 8-foot scarf like the Doctor

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Varek Raith  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:40:50pm

I liked Christopher Eccleston.
Shrugs.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:41:34pm

re: #256 Varek Raith

I liked Christopher Eccleston.
Shrugs.

Oh, I liked him a lot. I actually like all five of the new Doctors quite a lot. No judgment from me.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:42:19pm

re: #256 Varek Raith

I liked Christopher Eccleston.
Shrugs.

I liked him as well. Wish that they could have reconciled with him on the 50th Anniversary Show.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:44:25pm

Pizza Boxes!!
facebook.com

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William Lewis  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:45:30pm

re: #256 Varek Raith

I liked Christopher Eccleston.
Shrugs.

I liked 9 too. 4, 9 & 12 are my favorites thus far. I also think Rose would have been a far better companion for 12 than Clara was.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:46:33pm

re: #252 Barefoot Grin

My first marathon was in Akita Japan, but my second was the Marine Corps Marathon. I almost kissed a marine when I finished.

I think the Marine Corp one is on my list as a bucket list one. So is Tokyo, actually. And London.

I mean, all of this assumes that I decide I vaguely like running marathons. Which is still to be determined.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:47:18pm

re: #260 William Lewis

I liked 9 too. 4, 9 & 12 are my favorites thus far. I also think Rose would have been a far better companion for 12 than Clara was.

My pairing would have been to put Capaldi and Catherine Tate (Donna Noble) together. Either that, or her and Eccleston. All that sass, my head would have exploded.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:47:24pm

re: #242 majii

“I think for many white liberals we just couldn’t accept that social anxiety was the real driving force behind Trumpism because we didn’t want to see the worst from those we know.”

I guess I never bought the “they voted for Trump because of economic anxiety” BS because as a black female who survived America’s Jim Crow Era, I know that racism and bigotry are still very much alive and thriving in America. My life experience has provided me with a different perspective when it comes to viewing and dealing with racism, bigotry, religious differences, and economic and social culture issues. In a way, I am the manifestation of the American Dream that some others in this country are working to suppress, oppress, and destroy because of their fear of being “replaced and dominated.” What these persons don’t seem to understand is that in general, POC, those who practice religions other than Christianity, and LGBTQ Americans don’t want to suppress, oppress, destroy, replace or dominate them, and we don’t hate them. We only want to be viewed as their equals and allowed to exercise our constitutional rights the same way that they do. That I have had a successful life in spite of facing many adversities says to me that those who have sought to “keep me in my place” have failed. I, and many others, including LGBTQ Americans, other POC, and religious groups not comprised of Christians, are using the system as it was designed to make better lives for ourselves and our families and shall continue to do so. Even though they seem to think they can, they can’t stop progress or demographic change from happening forever, and I think they will eventually be forced to acknowledge that they will become the minority in America and every negative aspect of those changes that they are predicting most likely won’t happen. Why not? Because those they’re bent on keeping in subjugation aren’t the assholes that they are. I’ve mentioned before here at LGF that the main reason I will never attempt to deprive any other person or group in this country of their civil rights is because I know exactly what it is like to live that way, and I adamantly refuse to treat a fellow citizen or human being the way I have been, and am sometimes still, treated.

I never did either. I saw what they liked from Trump. It was that he told them their bigotry was acceptable.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:48:04pm

this is just insane:

jeebus

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:50:13pm

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

this is just insane:

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jeebus

This is just ignorant shit. I benefitted immensely from community college. Just because he and his stupid cult don’t know what community college is doesn’t mean nobody does and motherfucker you barely won in Michigan.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:51:25pm

He’s such a charlatan fraud. His cult deserves him and he deserves them. They’re collectively stupid as hell.

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scottslemmons  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:51:28pm

I’ve never watched much Doctor Who, mostly because I’ve mostly stopped being able to watch episodic TV. But I did enjoy “The Curse of Fatal Death.” :)

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:52:33pm

re: #265 HappyWarrior

I went to Community College of Philadelphia and was able to transfer to La Salle University and graduate with a degree in English. Community Colleges are a great start for anyone who wants a skill and/or a degree.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:53:45pm
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BeachDem  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:54:57pm

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

this is just insane:

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jeebus

We should send Daniel Dale a nice gift. How that man suffers so we don’t have to. (And one of the few who corrects the LIES as the yam spouts them, rather than just tweet the idiot’s ranting words.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:55:18pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:55:52pm

re: #268 PhillyPretzel

I went to Community College of Philadelphia and was able to transfer to La Salle University and graduate with a degree in English. Community Colleges are a great start for anyone who wants a skill and/or a degree.

I did the same thing with GMU. And I hope Dems point out that community colleges benefit people immensely from those who may not be able to afford a four year school or are returning to learn some skills or like me weren’t ready for a four year school out of high school. Trump not only is an ignorant twit, he’s an elitist one and his idiotic cult eats it up.

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BeachDem  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:56:57pm

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well, actually, the last time a president missed the correspondents’ dinner was last year, when the yam decided to run his mouth in Pennsylvania.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:58:07pm

re: #273 BeachDem

Well, actually, the last time a president missed the correspondents’ dinner was last year, when the yam decided to run his mouth in Pennsylvania.

well, maybe last time a President missed…not a president*

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:58:22pm

This guy is the most out of touch asshole ever in the WH but because he panders to bigots, he’s treated like he’s a champion of the common man who he could care less about.

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BeachDem  Apr 28, 2018 • 5:59:15pm

re: #274 Backwoods_Sleuth

well, maybe last time a President missed…not a president*

Point taken!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:00:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:01:02pm

I’m sorry but Trump’s comments on community colleges infuriate the shit out of me. Because of CC, I was better equipped at 21 than I was 18 to enter a four year school. Trumps cult can cheer that on all they want, they’re just fucking themselves as always and you know what, I don’t care. They vote repeatedly for politicians like this and then they cry about liberals.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:01:45pm

Our founder, friend, and original instigator, Larry Harvey has passed away. Larry suffered a massive stroke at his home on the morning of April 4. We resolutely held out for a miracle. If there was anyone tenacious, strong-willed and stubborn enough to come back from this challenge, it was Larry. Though we all hoped he would recover, he passed peacefully this morning at 8:24am in San Francisco, with members of his family at his side.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:03:36pm
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nicdanger  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:04:07pm

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s freekin insane squared.Also delusional.We all know that about him but are still sometimes taken aback by the depth of his utter ,well stupidity.There’s that, then there is the fact he is just a lying sack of shit.I really don’t like having to talk about potus like this, but if the shoe fits…

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BeachDem  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:04:45pm

I love this one

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:04:51pm

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That makes no sense especially because we can see that you fondle Vlad.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:05:23pm

re: #282 BeachDem

I love this one

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This is a cult of personality.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:05:25pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:06:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:06:07pm

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Bullshit.

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The Major  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:06:18pm

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:06:41pm

re: #285 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wtf is he talking about? The Mediterranean?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:07:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:08:13pm

*THUD*

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:08:17pm

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Negative GDP? Boy Donnie, you’re even stupider than I thought.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:09:08pm

re: #291 Backwoods_Sleuth

*THUD*

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You know why they’re not voting Republican? Because Republican crowds boo the sheer mention of Hispanics.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:09:37pm

This is the most pathetic Trump stump speech ever.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:12:11pm

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

this is just insane:

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jeebus

When is he going to turn these Trump rallies into sitting high in a golden chair on red carpeted stage and have people come up to a podium in front of him and praise him as the god he is?

With a large TV screen above it all so people can see him fake smile as he listens to the fawning. Of course a huge PA system. People must hear.

And then he waves them off with a flick of his infant hand to have the next Trumpian come up and blow their horn in praise.

Glory be to Our Great President

The man is the most needy man ever. He can’t go 10 minutes without praise.

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Single-handed sailor  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:12:36pm
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majii  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:12:56pm

re: #294 HappyWarrior“This is the most pathetic Trump stump speech ever.”

He knows he can tell any lie he wants to and no one will ever think to question it. He’s among his own.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:14:04pm

re: #297 majii

“This is the most pathetic Trump stump speech ever.”

He knows he can tell any lie he wants to and no one will ever think to question it. He’s among his own.

He’d blame Obama for 911 and the cult wouldn’t bat an eyelash.

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dangerman  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:15:01pm

re: #173 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Strava I did the math and if I run 5 miles tomorrow and then 14 on Monday it’ll be 600 even since January 1.

Or you could run 6 tomorrow and 13 on Monday…or…….

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scottslemmons  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:16:13pm

re: #298 HappyWarrior

He’d blame Obama for 911 and the cult wouldn’t bat an eyelash.

He’d blame Obama for World War 2, and they wouldn’t bat an eyelash.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:16:37pm

re: #300 scottslemmons

He’d blame Obama for World War 2, and they wouldn’t bat an eyelash.

Well, that would line right up with their expectations that Democrats are Nazis.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:16:45pm

re: #300 scottslemmons

He’d blame Obama for World War 2, and they wouldn’t bat an eyelash.

Yep.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:18:13pm

re: #301 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Well, that would line right up with their expectations that Democrats are Nazis.

While they boo the mention of an ethnicity. See this is why I don’t want to respect Republicans. They don’t deserve it. They’re worse than the Know Nothings.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:18:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:20:43pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:21:38pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:21:46pm

re: #304 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The truth hurts huh Liz. What about his egotism. His belief that he’s accomplished more than any other President? But yeah Bob telling the truth about Trump and his supporters is why he won.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:22:00pm

re: #283 HappyWarrior

That makes no sense especially because we can see that you fondle Vlad.

But he did just admit that Don Jr. met with the Russian Lawyer.

We can quibble over who set it up as we talk to others now that we know the meeting is true.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:22:08pm

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:23:13pm

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They want us to respect their feelings while they boo the sheer mention of Hispanics. Fuck the MAGA cult. They’re a disgrace.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:23:47pm

re: #291 Backwoods_Sleuth

*THUD*

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Time for the hook.

Did anyone bring the hook?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:24:13pm
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SteelPH  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:26:23pm

re: #307 HappyWarrior

The truth hurts huh Liz. What about his egotism. His belief that he’s accomplished more than any other President? But yeah Bob telling the truth about Trump and his supporters is why he won.

Do alienating our allies, having ICE go after brown people regardless of citizenship status, cozying up to a hostile foreign power, potentially threatening nuclear war, and dismantling any semblence of a functioning government count as accomplishments?
//do I ever need these?

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The Major  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:27:00pm

It’s going to take decades to unwind the damage Hair Furor and the GOP have inflicted on the United States - assuming the Sweet Meteor of Death doesn’t do it for us….

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Bubblehead II  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:27:15pm

Lizards, I came, I saw I posted. May The God of your choice ……. Hell I’m just shaking my head at this point.. See you in the morning.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:29:33pm

re: #310 HappyWarrior

They want us to respect their feelings while they boo the sheer mention of Hispanics. Fuck the MAGA cult. They’re a disgrace.

I think someone used another “d” word.

What was that again???
Hmmmm.

Oh yeah.

(Fucking) Deplorables!

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austin_blue  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:29:40pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

And that is EXACTLY what she acknowledged in her statement and apologized for.

I suppose she should have just slunk off into the mists of the former-somebodies and joined the growing ranks of the eternally shamed not-GOP, never to write another word or speak another public word ever again.
OTOH, even that probably wouldn’t satisfy the yammering “NOT GOOD ENOUGH” crowd.

They are attacking her for being a Negro who is very good at her job.

Hmm…that reminds me of someone else…

By the way, the gig in Houston last night was outstanding. And tomorrow we’re playing at Zach Scott (the big space) in Austin. It really is a good show.

The Hobby Center’s big theater (2600 seats)was next door to ours and is selling tickets on average for $400 for Hamilton. It’s there for four weeks and opened last Tuesday. Top seats are selling for $695 a pop. Do the math. It’s silly successful.

(Edited at the top for idiocy.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:31:28pm

re: #309 HappyWarrior

What?

yeppers…sounds like a confession…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:33:34pm

please proceed…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:34:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:35:22pm

JFC

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:35:57pm

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Glad they’re delusional. It will be that much more painful for them when the blue wave comes.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:36:09pm

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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Wait, what? For serious? Oh my fucking God. Osteen is the biggest fucking asshole in Christianity today. Hell, even half my wingnut friends hate his smarmy polished ass.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:36:31pm

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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Fucking Osteen? You fire Conroy for being too “political” and you pick Osteen. Fuck you Paul.

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b.d. (Disposable)  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:36:53pm
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Dave In Austin  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:37:23pm

That’s got to be a joke.. Not believing it (yet).

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Stanley Sea  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:37:31pm

re: #289 HappyWarrior

Wtf is he talking about? The Mediterranean?

Some top secret plan he skimmed

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:37:35pm

re: #325 b.d. (Candy Man)

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This gets weirder and weirder.

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b.d. (Disposable)  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:37:52pm

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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Has to be a fake story. Joel wouldn’t give up his empire to pray before sessions of Congress……..ever

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:37:56pm

re: #326 Dave In Austin

That’s got to be a joke.. Not believing it (yet).

The scary thing is that it makes just enough sense to be believable. These people are literally beyond parody now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:38:25pm

re: #326 Dave In Austin

That’s got to be a joke.. Not believing it (yet).

me either (believing it).

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BeachDem  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:39:20pm

re: #320 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah, Maggie went several rounds with Brad. (Obviously, when the incels named their nemesis “Brad,” they had not yet seen Parscale.)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:39:27pm

Lost in Space episode 1
Why aren’t these people wearing hats? It looks chilly. I know the last time I was traversing a glacier I was wearing a hat.

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austin_blue  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:39:57pm

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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I’ll call bullshit. Ryan is as close to an Opus Dei Catholic as you can get without flaying your skin with barbed wire. Osteen is a hack Prosperity Gospel preacher, which is as far from mainline Catholic Catechism as you can get.

“That’s not how any of this works!”

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BeachDem  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:41:01pm

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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I was looking for an Onion tag, but no. I guess he could have gone with Frankie, but Joel is quite a catch.
//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:42:13pm

re: #335 BeachDem

I was looking for an Onion tag, but no. I guess he could have gone with Frankie, but Joel is quite a catch.
//

pretty sure it’s a “joke”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:42:33pm
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The Major  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:43:18pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:43:33pm

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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There is some serious $$$ quid pro quo if true.

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BeachDem  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:43:50pm

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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Whew (for now, anyway)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:44:03pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:44:50pm

re: #337 Backwoods_Sleuth

Isn’t that Stormy’s attorney?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:45:13pm

re: #341 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I bet he considers himself a strong believer of the Constitution too right.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:45:22pm

re: #342 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Isn’t that Stormy’s attorney?

looks like

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:48:09pm

re: #278 HappyWarrior

I’m sorry but Trump’s comments on community colleges infuriate the shit out of me. Because of CC, I was better equipped at 21 than I was 18 to enter a four year school. Trumps cult can cheer that on all they want, they’re just fucking themselves as always and you know what, I don’t care. They vote repeatedly for politicians like this and then they cry about liberals.

No reason to be sorry.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:48:34pm

re: #323 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Wait, what? For serious? Oh my fucking God. Osteen is the biggest fucking asshole in Christianity today. Hell, even half my wingnut friends hate his smarmy polished ass.

Then by all means…bring that big toothy grinning fake on. It says so much about our country for Ryan to do this.

By god, we are rolling in it!

The pigs have nothing on this Congress and presidency. A dog can’t find this kind of crap to lay into.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:48:38pm

re: #345 I Would Prefer Not To

No reason to be sorry.

i never want to be called an elitist by supporters of a man who scoffs at community college.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:49:39pm

re: #330 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The scary thing is that it makes just enough sense to be believable. These people are literally beyond parody now.

Emphasis “Yet”.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:49:43pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:50:27pm

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

pretty sure it’s a “joke”

So is this presidency and congress.

It’s why this would be great!

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dangerman  Apr 28, 2018 • 6:51:36pm

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m perfectly content to be a cheerleader on the sidelines.
Sitting down in a comfy chair.
Sipping a lovely cool beverage.

finish line photogs are people too. ;-)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 28, 2018 • 7:02:46pm

re: #278 HappyWarrior

I’m sorry but Trump’s comments on community colleges infuriate the shit out of me.

Trumps comments on anything infuriate the shit out of me.


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