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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Cocaine Mitch — NSFW; Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News & Comment is here with his annual May 1 tradition; Mueller’s questions for Trump leak to the NYT; Trumper Don Blankenship attacks Mitch McConnell in new ad; Michelle Wolf, Donald Trump and the Saturday Night Comedy Massacre; Ronny Jackson threatened Pence’s doctor; Bornstein’s office raided by Trump’s thugs; Trump will seek the death penalty for drug dealers; Another White House typo could’ve triggered a war; John Kelly says Trump is an idiot; and much more.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2018 • 6:41:19pm

ok then…

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Charles Johnson  May 1, 2018 • 6:41:20pm
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Belafon  May 1, 2018 • 6:41:48pm

From James Poniewozik, the TV Critic over at the NYT:

Michelle Wolf Did Her Job. It’s the Correspondents’ Dinner That Is the Problem.

But to hire a comic, then renounce her for doing what she does, is weak. Any reporter knows that if you don’t do your homework, the consequences are on you. And to cave under pressure undermines reporters’ work by suggesting, rightly or not, that the Washington press corps can be cowed by the play-for-keeps tactics of this administration.

As for political balance, it should be noted that the W.H.C.A. invited America’s premiere conservative insult comic, and he chose to do a rally in Michigan instead. Mr. Trump knows the political value of a Don Rickles zinger. He intuits that audiences grant comedians a leeway they don’t to the stuffier professions.

Comedians are powerful — and sometimes more trusted and respected than journalists, as “The Daily Show” and company have shown — because they can say uncomfortable things flat-out, ditch the euphemisms, call a “falsehood” a lie. Comedy isn’t reporting, but it is testimony. (Ms. Wolf ended her own routine with a straight line: “Flint still doesn’t have clean water.”)

I really wanted to copy the whole thing. Go read it.

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HappyWarrior  May 1, 2018 • 6:43:11pm

re: #3 Belafon

From James Poniewozik, the TV Critic over at the NYT:

Michelle Wolf Did Her Job. It’s the Correspondents’ Dinner That Is the Problem.

I really wanted to copy the whole thing. Go read it.

Good read. Maggie should read her colleague’s take.

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Charles Johnson  May 1, 2018 • 6:45:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2018 • 6:45:36pm

maggie is getting thrashed in replies to her tweet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2018 • 6:46:26pm
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ObserverArt  May 1, 2018 • 6:48:31pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

maggie is getting thrashed in replies to her tweet.

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Maggie knows abnormal.

She practices it daily with her ‘journalistic’ offerings.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 1, 2018 • 6:49:28pm

First tornado in Kansas of 2018?

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Charles Johnson  May 1, 2018 • 6:49:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2018 • 6:50:07pm

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

ok then…

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2018 • 6:50:07pm
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teleskiguy  May 1, 2018 • 6:51:24pm

re: #9 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Atmosphere is about as unstable as it gets in that part of the world. Big dry cold airmass up against another big moist warm airmass. Bedlam.

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TedStriker  May 1, 2018 • 6:52:16pm

re: #9 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

First tornado in Kansas of 2018?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2018 • 6:53:12pm

re: #9 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

First tornado in Kansas of 2018?

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making up for the slow start on the season…tornadoes have been running wild east of the Mississippi River so far this season; Tornado Alley states have been unnaturally quiet.

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Charles Johnson  May 1, 2018 • 6:53:39pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 1, 2018 • 6:53:50pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

making up for the slow start on the season…tornadoes have been running wild east of the Mississippi River so far this season; Tornado Alley states have been unnaturally quiet.

I commented on this at the time. I said the quiet spring for Tornado Alley would probably balance out with a catastrophic explosion of tornadoes later in the season.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2018 • 6:54:00pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 1, 2018 • 6:56:39pm

Prison’s to good for him

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 1, 2018 • 6:57:12pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 1, 2018 • 6:57:15pm

re: #14 TedStriker

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People who think the Midwest and Plains “must be nice” because there’s no hurricanes, few* earthquakes, and the snowy cold winters as their only drawback, clearly haven’t been paying attention to the number of towns that simply get wiped off the map every year.

* = should be “none”, but thanks to fracking and other global fuckups, the ground does move in some places.

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JordanRules  May 1, 2018 • 7:00:31pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 1, 2018 • 7:03:16pm

re: #21 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

People who think the Midwest and Plains “must be nice” because there’s no hurricanes, few* earthquakes, and the snowy cold winters as their only drawback, clearly haven’t been paying attention to the number of towns that simply get wiped off the map every year.

* = should be “none”, but thanks to fracking and other global fuckups, the ground does move in some places.

Don’t forget the New Madrid fault. When it next goes, a large part of the Midwest may vanish.

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JordanRules  May 1, 2018 • 7:08:38pm
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makeitstop  May 1, 2018 • 7:10:08pm

I hadn’t seen it before tonight, but that Mountain Dew spot with Morgan Freeman doing ‘Get Ur Freak On’ is a scream.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 1, 2018 • 7:10:22pm

re: #23 Hecuba’s daughter

Don’t forget the New Madrid fault. When it next goes, a large part of the Midwest may vanish.

The last time was a magnitude 7.4 aftershock. And this is in a place that does not require building to earthquake code.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 1, 2018 • 7:13:30pm

re: #26 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

A plain factual statement from Wikipedia puts it all in perspective:

February 7, 1812, 0945 UTC (3:45 a.m.); (M 7.5-8.0)[2][3] epicenter near New Madrid, Missouri. New Madrid was destroyed.

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2018 • 7:15:25pm

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2018 • 7:16:32pm

re: #23 Hecuba’s daughter

Don’t forget the New Madrid fault. When it next goes, a large part of the buildings in the Midwest may vanish.

FTFY. The planet isn’t going anywhere. We are!

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The Major  May 1, 2018 • 7:18:05pm

re: #24 JordanRules

The Atlantic: There’s Nothing to Stop the 2018 Elections From Being Hacked

Congressional Democrats are pledging not to exploit stolen materials in their campaigns, but Republicans have declined to match that commitment, leaving the midterm races vulnerable to malicious interference.

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prairiefire  May 1, 2018 • 7:18:57pm

re: #17 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I commented on this at the time. I said the quiet spring for Tornado Alley would probably balance out with a catastrophic explosion of tornadoes later in the season.

Yay!/

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makeitstop  May 1, 2018 • 7:19:24pm

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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austin_blue  May 1, 2018 • 7:19:34pm

re: #26 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The last time was a magnitude 7.5 aftershock. And this is in a place that does not require building to earthquake code.

That is a deep, deep crustal fault, well off the plate boundaries. When it cuts loose with another big one, they’ll feel it in Denver and Detroit.

Remember, also, that Charleston SC was destroyed by an earthquake. As was Lisbon, Portugal and Boston was heavily damaged. These off plate-seam faults rarely pop and are not well understood.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 1, 2018 • 7:21:10pm

re: #26 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The last time was a magnitude 7.4 aftershock. And this is in a place that does not require building to earthquake code.

Missouri’s bootheel was created by the New Madrid quake(s).

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2018 • 7:21:51pm

re: #33 austin_blue

The New Madrid fault, when it popped in the early 1800s, knocked down chimneys in Virginia.

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prairiefire  May 1, 2018 • 7:21:52pm

re: #21 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Felt two earthquakes, mild, last year from Oklahoma.

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makeitstop  May 1, 2018 • 7:22:21pm

re: #32 makeitstop

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

Screen shot. She’s got a point.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 1, 2018 • 7:23:16pm

re: #35 teleskiguy

The New Madrid fault, when it popped in the early 1800s, knocked down chimneys in Virginia.

It’s estimated that the 1811-1812 New Madrid earthquakes may have been felt over an area two orders of magnitude larger than the great 1906 San Francisco earthquake, per wiki.

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prairiefire  May 1, 2018 • 7:26:13pm

If a person lives in the Midwest, you need to know how to read the sky. I can sound like a wagon master from the 1800’s if need be. “Yeah, we’re going to need to lash the wagons together if we’re to survive the winds.”
The perfect shade of black in the clouds before the deluge, hot day plus cool nights creates hail, you get the idea.

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MsJ  May 1, 2018 • 7:26:53pm

Is Twitter dead?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 1, 2018 • 7:28:04pm

re: #39 prairiefire

If a person lives in the Midwest, you need to know how to read the sky. I can sound like a wagon master from the 1800’s if need be. “Yeah, we’re going to need to lash the wagons together if we’re to survive the winds.”
The perfect shade of black in the clouds before the deluge, hot day plus cool nights creates hail, you get the idea.

It’s almost a point of pride at this point, distinguishing between people who know when and approximately where something’s going to hit just by looking at the clouds.

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2018 • 7:28:19pm

Michelle Wolf’s outfit for her performance at the White House Correspondence Dinner, with the blazer unbuttoned.

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mmmirele  May 1, 2018 • 7:28:24pm

Yeah, this is a bit long, but some of you might be interested.

Evangelical/Baptist Twitter has been up in arms for the last couple of days, since Jonathan Merritt (writer for Religion News Service) decided he didn’t like what Paige Patterson, one of the two authors of the “conservative resurgence” and current president of Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary had to say about recommending divorce in the case of abuse (as in never):

Someone then tipped Merritt off to a 2000 recording of Patterson talking about his advice to a woman being abused by her husband (tl;dr: pray, get hit, stay, he’ll get saved):

Well, Patterson was indignant and considered himself the victim:

The story got picked up by the Washington Post yesterday:

washingtonpost.com

And oh, so many, many, many male Baptist asshats have crawled out of the woodwork to defend Patterson on Twitter, while Wade Burleson, an Oklahoma Baptist pastor, who has had the knives out (justifiably*) for Patterson for a while, said that Patterson should resign from his seminary position and give up his coveted speaking position at the Southern Baptist Convention meeting in Dallas next month:

wadeburleson.org

And here’s another statement from SWBTS and Patterson, which still does not address the elephant in the living room, which is that they preach against divorce even in the case of abuse:

But the thing to remember is Patterson has influenced thousands of pastors in the SBC over the decades, to wit:

(yeah, it’s me)

* Justifiable knives out: 1) Patterson has a seminary (SWBTS) with declining enrollment paying to build him and his wife an on-campus retirement home. 2) Patterson protected notorious sexual predator Darrell Gilyard. 3) Patterson probably spent into the seven figures buying eight likely forged Dead Sea Scrolls fragments, money that came from donations to the seminary. By “fragments,” we’re talking pieces of papyrus or leather that are smaller than a sticky note. One of those fragments might have cost $500,000 << not a misprint.

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ObserverArt  May 1, 2018 • 7:30:04pm

re: #25 makeitstop

I hadn’t seen it before tonight, but that Mountain Dew spot with Morgan Freeman doing ‘Get Ur Freak On’ is a scream.

I saw it during the Cav/Raptors game.

Freeman is a national treasure.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 1, 2018 • 7:32:00pm

re: #43 mmmirele

Duuuuuuuuuude. That is some deep shit.

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prairiefire  May 1, 2018 • 7:33:42pm

re: #41 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s almost a point of pride at this point, distinguishing between people who know when and approximately where something’s going to hit just by looking at the clouds.

Yeah, we gotta go with what we got! I don’t know how to make a lobster roll but I can guess pretty well when they’re going to sound the sirens!

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2018 • 7:34:24pm

re: #41 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s almost a point of pride at this point, distinguishing between people who know when and approximately where something’s going to hit just by looking at the clouds.

Pretty sure I acquired that weather fu in Noblesville, IN at a Phish show. During their last song of the first set, I wasn’t looking at the band, I was looking at the sky, which got ominous with a quickness.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 1, 2018 • 7:35:27pm

re: #47 teleskiguy

Pretty sure I acquired that weather fu in Noblesville, IN at a Phish show. During their last song of the first set, I wasn’t looking at the band, I was looking at the sky, which got ominous with a quickness.

I have a photo on my iPhone’s camera roll of a selfie of me, hauling ass up the street on foot, returning from a walk through town with a thunderhead right behind me. The raindrops started to fall as I unlocked the door to my house.

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makeitstop  May 1, 2018 • 7:35:46pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 1, 2018 • 7:37:08pm

re: #46 prairiefire

Yeah, we gotta go with what we got! I don’t know how to make a lobster roll but I can guess pretty well when they’re going to sound the sirens!

My most recent close encounter with a tornado caught me by surprise because it was at 2:00 in the morning or some ungodly hour like that. Hard to read the clouds and know a tornado’s coming if you can’t see them. My kids remember me waking them up and taking them into the basement as the sirens sounded.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 1, 2018 • 7:38:05pm

I think we can all agree, didn’t see this as a forgone conclusion

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makeitstop  May 1, 2018 • 7:38:13pm
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prairiefire  May 1, 2018 • 7:39:15pm

re: #48 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Last year I counted 7 thunderheads in the sky driving east to west 20 minutes for oboe lessons. That day is now known as Tornado Thursday of 2017. Had to shelter at the school for 45 minutes, then drive back home over all the leaves and crap in the road.

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mmmirele  May 1, 2018 • 7:39:36pm

re: #45 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Duuuuuuuuuude. That is some deep shit.

And, I forgot to mention the other part. Paige Patterson’s buddy in the “conservative resurgence” is former Texas state appellate court judge Judge Paul Pressler. Pressler is currently being sued by a man claiming he was sexually assaulted numerous times as a young man. At first it looked to me like a crank lawsuit, but last month, two more men came forward:

In separate court affidavits filed this month, two men say Paul Pressler molested or solicited them for sex in a pair of incidents that span nearly 40 years. Those accusations were filed as part of a lawsuit filed last year by another man who says he was regularly raped by Pressler.

houstonchronicle.com

This is of personal interest to me, because one of my law school study partners clerked on the 14th Circuit Court of Appeals until he died of AIDS at the end of the 1980s. We could not discuss the actual cause of death because of the presence of Pressler, who would likely turn our friend’s story into a cautionary tale about the evils of homosexuality.

So yeah, it’d be highly ironic if this took down Pressler.

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prairiefire  May 1, 2018 • 7:40:09pm

re: #50 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I HATE NIGHTIME TORNADOES!

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2018 • 7:40:27pm
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The Major  May 1, 2018 • 7:40:29pm

You lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas….
Wasington Examiner: ‘God damn you to hell,’ Michael Caputo tells Senate intel panel

Republican consultant and former Trump campaign aide Michael Caputo told the Senate Intelligence Committee Tuesday, “God damn you to hell,” during an interview as part of the panel’s Russia investigation.
In Caputo’s closing statement obtained by the Washington Examiner, he said the panel’s investigation “forced” his family out of their home and “crushed” his children due to mounting legal costs associated with the inquiry.
“Today, I can’t possibly pay the attendant legal costs and live near my aging father, raising my kids where I grew up,” Caputo said. “Your investigation and others into the allegations of Trump campaign collusion with Russia are costing my family a great deal of money — more than $125,000 — and making a visceral impact on my children.”

Caputo accused members of the Senate Intelligence Committee of working together and contributing to the “swamp” — a term often used by President Trump to describe the bureaucracy in Washington, D.C

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austin_blue  May 1, 2018 • 7:41:07pm

re: #38 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s estimated that the 1811-1812 New Madrid earthquakes may have been felt over an area two orders of magnitude larger than the great 1906 San Francisco earthquake, per wiki.

That’s not surprising. The San Andreas rupture near San Francisco was a strike/slip rupture, where the plates move relatively north/south with respect to each other because that’s where the energy is locked up. Relatively shallow events (obviously, it sucks in the immediate area). But they don’t have really long destructive travel waves. The same with the dip/slip subduction faults on plate boundaries like in Aceh and Japan. They certainly felt them onshore, but the damage was caused when the subducted plate broke on an 800-mile long rupture zone and snapped up well over a hundred feet, pushing all of that non-compressible water upward almost instantaneously along a line the length of the California coast.

Dog help NoCal, Oregon, Washington, and British Columbia when the Cascade Subduction Zone pops again.

Deep continental fault ruptures are felt over a much wider area. A fault rupture in Virginia several years ago (damaged the Washington Monument) was felt in Canada.

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jaunte  May 1, 2018 • 7:41:08pm

re: #49 makeitstop

I think I did see that comparison made earlier:

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2018 • 7:41:40pm

re: #55 prairiefire

I HATE NIGHTIME TORNADOES!

Most tornado deaths occur at night.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 1, 2018 • 7:42:00pm

re: #43 mmmirele

Yeah, this is a bit long, but some of you might be interested.

Evangelical/Baptist Twitter has been up in arms for the last couple of days, since Jonathan Merritt (writer for Religion News Service) decided he didn’t like what Paige Patterson, one of the two authors of the “conservative resurgence” and current president of Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary had to say about recommending divorce in the case of abuse (as in never):

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(yeah, it’s me)

* Justifiable knives out: 1) Patterson has a seminary (SWBTS) with declining enrollment paying to build him and his wife an on-campus retirement home. 2) Patterson protected notorious sexual predator Darrell Gilyard. 3) Patterson probably spent into the seven figures buying eight likely forged Dead Sea Scrolls fragments, money that came from donations to the seminary. By “fragments,” we’re talking pieces of papyrus or leather that are smaller than a sticky note. One of those fragments might have cost $500,000 << not a misprint.

Yet another reason why I will NEVER step foot in any church again.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 1, 2018 • 7:43:14pm

re: #53 prairiefire

Last year I counted 7 thunderheads in the sky driving east to west 20 minutes for oboe lessons. That day is now known as Tornado Thursday of 2017. Had to shelter at the school for 45 minutes, then drive back home over all the leaves and crap in the road.

My folks back in fish country have to deal with tornadoes a lot more than I do. Their town was partially wiped off the map in 1965 by an outbreak on Palm Sunday, followed by another outbreak 31 years later where a tornado hit in exactly the same spot. (They had obviously moved out by then, but that was one of my closest contacts with a tornado, as my folks pulled my sister and I out of school and we arrived at my grandmother’s house to the sound of the sirens and police cars telling people there was another one in the area.) Two years ago, the town my family lives in got wrecked by a tornado that passed mere blocks away from where my mom worked and from my sister’s house. Then last year, my dad sends a video shot from their front porch of another tornado blitzing its way into their town.

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2018 • 7:43:37pm

re: #56 teleskiguy

Dude, when you lose 10 million followers inside of a week, including many celebrities, you should go back to The Sunken Place, whatever that is.

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makeitstop  May 1, 2018 • 7:43:47pm
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prairiefire  May 1, 2018 • 7:44:03pm

re: #60 teleskiguy

Most tornado deaths occur at night.

It’s awful, the spotters, who are risking their lives, can’t see anything. The radar won’t pick up straight line winds. “Three houses on Carriage Hill Lane just blew up, but we don’t know why.”

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 1, 2018 • 7:44:10pm

re: #57 The Major

“Get another job!” - That seems to be the answer his types give those less fortunate than him. Nut up, or shut up, pal.

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prairiefire  May 1, 2018 • 7:45:31pm

re: #62 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yeesh.

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The Major  May 1, 2018 • 7:46:31pm

re: #64 makeitstop

The Eye of Sauron is a nice touch….

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 1, 2018 • 7:46:34pm

re: #65 prairiefire

It’s awful, the spotters, who are risking their lives can’t see anything. The radar won’t pick up straight line winds. “Three houses on Carriage Hill Lane just blew up, but we don’t know why.”

Straight line winds are great fun. A storm like that knocked a tree over onto the place I was living when I moved to the wild north country. I lived on a point in the middle of a lake; the straight line winds could build up considerable velocity across the open water.

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makeitstop  May 1, 2018 • 7:46:47pm

re: #63 teleskiguy

Dude, when you lose 10 million followers inside of a week, including many celebrities, you should go back to The Sunken Place, whatever that is.

It’s a reference to the film ‘Get Out.’

But yeah, he should step away for a while but won’t. He’s pissing off a lot of people.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 1, 2018 • 7:47:27pm

re: #67 prairiefire

Yeesh.

Yeah. They think nothing of it anymore. Tornadoes are old hat to them. It just goes to show, it’s all relative to where you live. If you put them in the middle of a hurricane, or if an earthquake let go under them, they’d think it was the end of the world.

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2018 • 7:47:52pm

re: #65 prairiefire

In the pre-radar era, whole towns would be destroyed, in the middle of the night, and most folks didn’t know why. Nowadays it’s better understood and less and less people have died in tornadoes. Still, what about those wedge tornadoes that track for 200 miles? 2011 was a banner year for that, especially in the deep south. Devastating stuff.

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jaunte  May 1, 2018 • 7:48:16pm

‘Get Out’ Director Jordan Peele Explains ‘The Sunken Place’
thewrap.com

(spoilers within)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 1, 2018 • 7:49:16pm

re: #46 prairiefire

Yeah, we gotta go with what we got! I don’t know how to make a lobster roll but I can guess pretty well when they’re going to sound the sirens!

We can’t predict our disasters worth shit. Mt. Baker was acting up for years, then suddenly St. Helens decides to blow her top. When Rainier unexpectedly goes—well, it’s been nice knowing you.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 1, 2018 • 7:50:56pm

re: #72 teleskiguy

In the pre-radar era, whole towns would be destroyed, in the middle of the night, and most folks didn’t know why. Nowadays it’s better understood and less and less people have died in tornadoes. Still, what about those wedge tornadoes that track for 200 miles? 2011 was a banner year for that, especially in the deep south. Devastating stuff.

For smaller tornadoes, you may never hear about them at all. For example, driving into the north of Minnesota last summer, I saw swaths of trees and grass that had been blown over and stripped. Probably just a small, relatively weak and relatively short-lived tornado that blew through in the middle of the night one night, wrecked some stuff out in the middle of nowhere, and dissipated with no one the wiser.

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mmmirele  May 1, 2018 • 7:51:04pm

I stood across the street when a tornado roared across Temple Square in Salt Lake City in 1999. And no, I had no idea it was a tornado. I was reading a book on my lunch hour (still remember it, it was about Vera Nabokov, wife of Vladimir) in a bookstore and I heard a loud bang, which turned out to be a transformer blowing as the tornado went over it. I went out to the mall entrance and watched as the tornado went northeast over Temple Square. It was over in a few minutes and I went back to reading my book until lunch was over. Then I wandered back to work where the entire office was packing up for the day due to the tornado. Wait what, that was a tornado? Yeah, I stood probably less than 100 yards from the epicenter of a tiny, destructive, killer tornado.

Do not do what I did, it could have been A LOT WORSE.

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2018 • 7:51:35pm

re: #70 makeitstop

It’s a reference to the film ‘Get Out.’

So sue me. I haven’t seen it yet. It’s on the list. I also have a stack of books on my bed stand to get to. And I’m just finally about to finish Better Call Saul on Netflix (I love it! The Breaking Bad Universe could theoretically go on forever).

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 1, 2018 • 7:52:34pm

re: #76 mmmirele

During the previously mentioned ‘65 Palm Sunday outbreak, the one that hit my folks’ town actually jumped the creek behind my mom’s house and landed across the street. She, in her early-elementary-school wisdom, sat in front of her plate glass front window and watched it touch down and continue to destroy the town.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 1, 2018 • 7:59:32pm

damn it
Do not grab 450 degree oven racks with a potholder that has a wet spot

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prairiefire  May 1, 2018 • 8:00:43pm

re: #72 teleskiguy

In the pre-radar era, whole towns would be destroyed, in the middle of the night, and most folks didn’t know why. Nowadays it’s better understood and less and less people have died in tornadoes. Still, what about those wedge tornadoes that track for 200 miles? 2011 was a banner year for that, especially in the deep south. Devastating stuff.

That’s how we got the National Radar in our area. The suburb of Ruskin Heights blew up in 1957, 39 dead, the worst until Joplin, I believe.

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prairiefire  May 1, 2018 • 8:05:15pm

re: #74 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

We can’t predict our disasters worth shit. Mt. Baker was acting up for years, then suddenly St. Helens decides to blow her top. When Rainier unexpectedly goes—well, it’s been nice knowing you.

And what’s going to happen to the Yellowstone gieser? I would be less paranoid about things if I didn’t feel like the fabric of my country was being torn asunder, dang it. Now I’ll start talking like a character on “Gunsmoke.”

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gocart mozart  May 1, 2018 • 8:07:01pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 1, 2018 • 8:08:13pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 1, 2018 • 8:16:14pm

re: #73 jaunte

‘Get Out’ Director Jordan Peele Explains ‘The Sunken Place’
thewrap.com

(spoilers within)

Don’t read the comments, though. Yeesh.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  May 1, 2018 • 8:21:51pm

I wonder if Donald Trump thinks he can get asylum in Russia?

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freetoken  May 1, 2018 • 8:22:14pm

re: #85 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

I wonder if Donald Trump thinks he can get asylum in Russia?

He probably can.

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MsJ  May 1, 2018 • 8:23:29pm
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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  May 1, 2018 • 8:26:40pm

All the Trump team had to do was put out a list a list of topics that they expected to be lines of inquiry. Most of that stuff was already being discussed in the public domain anyway. But instead they did things their own way…

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makeitstop  May 1, 2018 • 8:27:56pm
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Ace-o-aces  May 1, 2018 • 8:28:05pm
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retired cynic  May 1, 2018 • 8:28:49pm

I didn’t know the story of the battle of Castle Itter at the very end of WW2. That would make a movie!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 1, 2018 • 8:31:36pm

re: #87 MsJ

Tomorrow he’ll start: “Here’s how I’m going to lie about question number….”

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Skip Intro  May 1, 2018 • 8:32:39pm

re: #74 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

We can’t predict our disasters worth shit. Mt. Baker was acting up for years, then suddenly St. Helens decides to blow her top. When Rainier unexpectedly goes—well, it’s been nice knowing you.

That’s not exactly true. As a working geologist in the Pacific Northwest at the time the explosion of Mt. St. Helen’s was fully expected. We just didn’t know when, but there was no doubt it was going to happen sooner rather than later.

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Ace-o-aces  May 1, 2018 • 8:37:35pm
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austin_blue  May 1, 2018 • 8:44:16pm

re: #93 Skip Intro

That’s not exactly true. As a working geologist in the Pacific Northwest at the time the explosion of Mt. St. Helen’s was fully expected. We just didn’t know when, but there was no doubt it was going to happen sooner rather than later.

Exactly right, and the USGS knew it would be a kicker. They just didn’t know how big a kicker it would be. The force of that initial blast surprised everyone. They also assumed it would be a vertical shot. When the initial explosion went sideways, it caught everyone sideways. After clearing its throat and the rubble above it, then it went vertical.

We simply don’t know enough about these events. Dog help us if Yellowstone goes kaboom again. We’ll have Denver’s refugees in Austin (Teleskiguy, you are cordially invited. Bring weed.).

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William Lewis  May 1, 2018 • 8:45:39pm

re: #91 retired cynic

I didn’t know the story of the battle of Castle Itter at the very end of WW2. That would make a movie!

I’ve posted about it here before. It’s one of my favorite stories of WWII. It was the only time the US Army and Wehrmacht fought together against a common foe - the SS. It was a true tragedy that Major Gangl died during the battle.

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retired cynic  May 1, 2018 • 8:46:10pm

re: #96 William Lewis

I’ve posted about it here before. It’s one of my favorite stories of WWII. It was the only time the US Army and Wehrmacht fought together against a common foe - the SS. It was a true tragedy that Major Gangl died during the battle.

Sorry, I must have slept through that!

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jaunte  May 1, 2018 • 8:48:33pm
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jaunte  May 1, 2018 • 8:52:40pm
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retired cynic  May 1, 2018 • 8:53:53pm

re: #99 jaunte

Whoa!!!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 1, 2018 • 8:56:32pm

re: #91 retired cynic

I didn’t know the story of the battle of Castle Itter at the very end of WW2. That would make a movie!

Peter Landesman To Helm ‘The Last Battle’ For Studiocanal And The Picture Company

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  May 1, 2018 • 8:56:32pm

re: #91 retired cynic

I didn’t know the story of the battle of Castle Itter at the very end of WW2. That would make a movie!

kuhl!

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2018 • 8:57:23pm

OK. This cracked me up.

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2018 • 8:59:42pm

re: #99 jaunte

That’s a beautiful sequence captured from space of the moment convergence of a mass of cold dry air with a mass of warm moist air. Those GOES satellites are amazing.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  May 1, 2018 • 9:00:30pm

re: #83 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Deborah Crain
@deborahcrainlaw
You’re allowed to speak your mind only if it lines up with liberal views. Otherwise you are labeled and branded as someone out of touch with reality. #KanyeWest keep speaking ur mind. It drives liberals crazy. @kanyewest

trumpskyite midterm strategy: annoy “liberals”

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jaunte  May 1, 2018 • 9:02:44pm
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austin_blue  May 1, 2018 • 9:08:30pm

re: #104 teleskiguy

That’s a beautiful sequence captured from space of the moment convergence of a mass of cold dry air with a mass of warm moist air. Those GOES satellites are amazing.

It is, isn’t it? It also reinforces the reality that the southwest corner of a supercell is something you most definitely want to avoid. There be dragons.

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freetoken  May 1, 2018 • 9:12:12pm

re: #106 jaunte

I wish media like the post would give up this dumb fantasy that Trump’s going to magically become a real boy

Therein lay a very difficult problem.

To acknowledge the reality about Trump is to also confront the reality of exactly who his supporters are, and why they support Trump, as well as what has happened to the Republican party.

And any “media” who delves into that will be immediately labeled as some sort of extremist liberal outlet.

And major corporate media doesn’t want labels.

WaPo is probably doing a better job than the NYT at tackling American political bodies, but neither are very aggressive on their opinion pages in getting at the problem of the hateful, spiteful, and yes ignorant Americans who support the likes of Trump.

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stpaulbear  May 1, 2018 • 9:14:56pm

Here comes the rain in St. Paul. I just stepped out to take the garbage out and there was a big flash of lightning and some rolling thunder. Doesn’t appear to be anything dangerous but it’s going to be enough to kickstart spring, green everything up, and wash the sand off the streets (and maybe contribute to flooding on the Minnesota river and the lower Mississippi)..

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Ace-o-aces  May 1, 2018 • 9:17:09pm
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austin_blue  May 1, 2018 • 9:19:14pm

re: #106 jaunte

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But Drumpf *is* a real boy. A spoiled rotten, poo-flinging, narcissistic, self-important, disaster of a little boy who also happens to be the President of the United States.

My bet is that he pulls out of the Iran deal this weekend. Which will make the other baby-man nutcase in North Korea go “Whatthefuck?!?! I can’t trust this guy to shake has dick when he takes a leak!”

Netanyahu is playing Drumpf like an Amati.

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Ace-o-aces  May 1, 2018 • 9:19:54pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 1, 2018 • 9:34:49pm

re: #111 austin_blue

But Drumpf *is* a real boy. A spoiled rotten, poo-flinging, narcissistic, self-important, disaster of a little boy who also happens to be the President of the United states.in

My bet is that he pulls out of the Iran deal this weekend. Which will make the other baby-man nutcase in North Korea go “Whatthefuck?!?! I can’t trust this guy to shake has dick when he takes a leak!”

Netanyahu is playing Drumpf like an Amati.

Is Netanyahu doing this only to distract Israelis and avoid criminal indictment? Or is he delusional enough to think war is a good idea? Unlike Trump, Netanyahu is actually intelligent, but intelligence is no substitute for good judgement.

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freetoken  May 1, 2018 • 9:35:40pm

Had my first, and probably last, loquats of the season.

I had to pick them before they were properly ripe, as they were from a tree, my favorite, that has been already well picked over by the birds and probably other humans.

The problem this year, around my neighborhood, is that some fruit set early, but most set late. Then, with the lack of rain and warm weather, the early ones turned quickly and the birds got them. The later ones then got scorched from a couple of very hot weeks, ended up sunburnt, and with no rain many of the fruit are stunted in size.

Even then, the birds got lots of those too.

Sad.

Still, not-quite-ripe loquats have a good taste all their own, very much like tart green apples.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 1, 2018 • 9:36:44pm

Since everyone is talking about weather… .

We’ve had a few nasty storms here on the west edge of Tornado Alley since my wife and I moved here.

May 18, 2013 First of Two - Just south of town
May 18, 2013, Second tornado, two blocks east of my home
Sattelite supercell: Storm over my town on west
Hail on back porch
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Anymouse 🌹  May 1, 2018 • 9:40:55pm

re: #104 teleskiguy

That’s a beautiful sequence captured from space of the moment convergence of a mass of cold dry air with a mass of warm moist air. Those GOES satellites are amazing.

So that’s the crap that hit us on the road home from Scottsbluff this afternoon.

I need a Doppler radar in my Smart.

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freetoken  May 1, 2018 • 9:48:14pm

re: #109 stpaulbear

Here comes the rain in St. Paul.

There is a very large trough of low pressure in the west, with a the center of the low currently over Death Valley:

radar.weather.gov

All of this is part of why the central part of the US is getting the warm humid air moving northward. The f

It’s supposed to bring us showers down here in the corner too, but as you can see form the radar the rain is very isolated in San Diego county.

The forecast for tomorrow shows the low over Death Valley barely moving east, but the entire line of low pressure extends all the way up to Canada:

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Anymouse 🌹  May 1, 2018 • 9:49:13pm

LOL

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austin_blue  May 1, 2018 • 9:56:50pm

re: #113 Hecuba’s daughter

Is Netanyahu doing this only to distract Israelis and avoid criminal indictment? Or is he delusional enough to think war is a good idea? Unlike Trump, Netanyahu is actually intelligent, but intelligence is no substitute for good judgement.

I think that’s a good point. Here’s a Guardian article that will scare the shit out of you:

theguardian.com

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Anymouse 🌹  May 1, 2018 • 9:57:58pm

Paid my property taxes today. They were one day late (dammit), so I had to pay a penalty.

The penalty was six cents.

That seems hardly worth collecting.

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austin_blue  May 1, 2018 • 10:02:00pm

re: #117 freetoken

There is a very large trough of low pressure in the west, with a the center of the low currently over Death Valley:

radar.weather.gov

All of this is part of why the central part of the US is getting the warm humid air moving northward. The f

It’s supposed to bring us showers down here in the corner too, but as you can see form the radar the rain is very isolated in San Diego county.

The forecast for tomorrow shows the low over Death Valley barely moving east, but the entire line of low pressure extends all the way up to Canada:

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With warm moist gulf air shooting north, it’s going to be a very interesting weekend in Texas and Oklahoma. Possibly Kansas, Arkansas, and points north. That kind of instability means vertical shear, which means supercells.

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freetoken  May 1, 2018 • 10:04:22pm

re: #121 austin_blue

The SPC forecast for tomorrow shows elevate risks of severe weather across several states.

Then for the following day, northern Missouri looks to be hit quite hard, and tornadoes possible from eastern Kansas through northern Missouri.

Spring - storm season in the central part of the country.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 1, 2018 • 10:06:26pm

re: #121 austin_blue

With warm moist gulf air shooting north, it’s going to be a very interesting weekend in Texas and Oklahoma. Possibly Kansas, Arkansas, and points north. That kind of instability means vertical shear, which means supercells.

The forecasting service for the National Weather Service is down right now. I can’t call up any town in the country from weather.gov

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freetoken  May 1, 2018 • 10:07:21pm

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹

My local San Diego NWS data servers are down too.

But the national servers are working.

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austin_blue  May 1, 2018 • 10:08:05pm

re: #120 Anymouse 🌹

Paid my property taxes today. They were one day late (dammit), so I had to pay a penalty.

The penalty was six cents.

That seems hardly worth collecting.

My property taxes are right at $11,000/year. We don’t have a State income tax, so municipalities are on the hook for school funding, since Texas doesn’t fund public schools to any large degree. Maybe 45% through state funds. Locals have to pick up the rest. We also have a 8.25% sales tax.

Horribly regressive.

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prairiefire  May 1, 2018 • 10:10:47pm

re: #122 freetoken

Thursday looks like a real winner! Hopefully we’ll be saved by the “Tonganoxie split” where the storm splits. Shooting up straight north of us while also moving to the east with most of the force of winds going thataway.

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TedStriker  May 1, 2018 • 10:13:51pm

re: #125 austin_blue

My property taxes are right at $11,000/year. We don’t have a State income tax, so municipalities are on the hook for school funding, since Texas doesn’t fund public schools to any large degree. Maybe 45% through state funds. Locals have to pick up the rest. We also have a 8.25% sales tax.

Horribly regressive.

Our taxes here in TN aren’t great either, with the reliance on sales taxes, but at least they kick in for schools quite a bit; I’ll take a $2100/yr property tax bill (Metro Nashville just reappraised everyone last year; we got a $300/yr increase [from about $1800/yr], which is not as bad as some got it) over yours anytime.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 1, 2018 • 10:16:33pm

re: #125 austin_blue

My property taxes are right at $11,000/year. We don’t have a State income tax, so municipalities are on the hook for school funding, since Texas doesn’t fund public schools to any large degree. Maybe 45% through state funds. Locals have to pick up the rest. We also have a 8.25% sales tax.

Horribly regressive.

Same here. My property tax today was $620.21 (plus the six cent penalty) on a valuation of $21,000.

We have a state income tax, but I am below the poverty line. Sales tax is 5.5%, the village has no additional sales tax (I beat back that proposal on the board last year). Counties can charge up to 0.5%, cities and villages can charge up to 2%.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 1, 2018 • 10:19:22pm

re: #125 austin_blue

Wow, your property must be worth a whole lot more than mine, since Nebraska has one of the highest property tax rates in the nation. Texas is right there with us. (We’re number seven, Texas is number six.)

wallethub.com

I do get car registration for $5 though (Gold Star Family).

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2018 • 10:25:09pm
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Anymouse 🌹  May 1, 2018 • 10:29:27pm

Nebraska AG sues lawmakers to stop death penalty questioning of prisons director (Goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald, more at the link):

LINCOLN — Nebraska’s attorney general has sued members of the State Legislature in an attempt to block their questioning of the prisons director about the death penalty protocol.

Attorney General Doug Peterson alleges in the lawsuit filed Tuesday that lawmakers voted unlawfully to issue a subpoena to the director of the Nebraska Department of Correctional Services to appear at a May 8 hearing at the State Capitol. Members of the Legislature’s Judiciary Committee planned to question Scott Frakes about the lethal injection protocol his department updated in 2017 to carry out executions.

The lawsuit names 16 state senators and the clerk of the Legislature as defendants. The senators are members of either the Executive Board of the Legislature or the Judiciary Committee.

State Sen. Laura Ebke [Libertarian], chairwoman of the Judiciary Committee, said last week that lawmakers will take the unusual step of issuing a subpoena because Frakes refused to answer questions voluntarily. In a recent letter, Frakes declined a request to appear before the committee “on the advice of legal counsel, and because of pending litigation.”

There are five lawsuits pending regarding the death penalty in the state. Additionally, the ACLU filed a complaint with the DEA alleging the state illegally obtained drugs.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 1, 2018 • 10:31:01pm

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹

Fixed link in #130, recycle the comment.

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fern01  May 1, 2018 • 10:34:36pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

maggie is getting thrashed in replies to her tweet.

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Both sides of politics find her unbelievable - sycophant is the right description

(thanks for all your posts BW - they are a treat to read)

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  May 1, 2018 • 10:35:36pm

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹

Wow, your property must be worth a whole lot more than mine, since Nebraska has one of the highest property tax rates in the nation. Texas is right there with us. (We’re number seven, Texas is number six.)

wallethub.com

I do get car registration for $5 though (Gold Star Family).

hmm so maybe california’s weather and coastline are not about to move to texas to escape high taxes like the wingnuts are always telling me :-)

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Anymouse 🌹  May 1, 2018 • 10:40:15pm

re: #134 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

hmm so maybe california’s weather and coastline are not about to move to texas to escape high taxes like the wingnuts are always telling me :-)

California’s property values are higher, property taxes not so much.

It does cost a heap of money to live in California (at least in the cities) … My sister is in real trouble now with her crushing medical debts left from her wife’s death and insufficient income. (I’ve offered her to move here with me, but she is not really interested in living in the Old West in a town of 132.)

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austin_blue  May 1, 2018 • 10:51:47pm

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹

Wow, your property must be worth a whole lot more than mine, since Nebraska has one of the highest property tax rates in the nation. Texas is right there with us. (We’re number seven, Texas is number six.)

wallethub.com

I do get car registration for $5 though (Gold Star Family).

When we bought our house in ‘97, the dirt was valued at $25,000. We paid $155,000 for the property. It is an 1,100 sq ft 2/1 up front with a finished out 1/1 500 sq ft former 2-car garage in the back with a full bath. We have a separate Certificate of Occupancy for the former garage (waiting for teleskiguy to escape Denver after the Yellowstone disaster). A house down the street was bought for $825,000 last year. It was scraped.

Which means our land value has increased 3,300% in the last 21 years.

The City is trying to find ways to increase affordable housing. It’s a fucking joke. There is no such thing with land prices in this town.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 1, 2018 • 10:53:45pm

Another one goes down …

EPA Aide On Toxic Cleanups Resigns Amid Scott Pruitt Scandals (Huffington Post)

Albert Kelly was appointed to the position last year after being banned for life from the banking industry.

WASHINGTON — Albert “Kell” Kelly, a top aide to Environmental Protection Agency chief Scott Pruitt in charge of overhauling the organization’s cleanup of America’s most contaminated sites, has resigned.

His departure, which Axios first reported Tuesday, comes the same day Pasquale “Nino” Perrotta, the head of Pruitt’s controversial round-the-clock security detail, stepped down early ahead of planned testimony before the House Oversight Committee. The resignations add to the chaos that has engulfed the EPA since Pruitt’s whirlwind of corruption accusations and ethical scandals began in late March.

Kelly, a former banking executive, was banned for life from that industry in 2016 as The Intercept reported. Almost immediately thereafter, Pruitt appointed him to lead the EPA’s effort to prioritize and streamline the Superfund program.

In a statement Tuesday, Pruitt praised Kelly for the “tremendous impact” he had on the program and said he “will be sorely missed.”

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹  May 1, 2018 • 10:54:59pm

re: #136 austin_blue

After the Yellowstone Disaster, we’ll be buried here too.

I don’t think there’ll be enough time to escape though.

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Teukka  May 1, 2018 • 10:56:00pm

re: #138 Anymouse 🌹

After the Yellowstone Disaster, we’ll be buried here too.

I don’t think there’ll be enough time to escape though.

If it goes VEI-8 instantly you’re SOL. However, if it begins with a single VEI-5, followed by several more, you might have a chance.

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austin_blue  May 1, 2018 • 10:58:00pm

re: #138 Anymouse 🌹

After the Yellowstone Disaster, we’ll be buried here too.

I don’t think there’ll be enough time to escape though.

Nope. You are pretty much dead (and cooked) meat. Sorry dude. Nature.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 1, 2018 • 10:59:04pm

Incoming village business E-mail …

The company that pitched our village board last year to install wireless Internet service on our water tower (that would cover the whole town and much of the countryside north of us) will be in Friday to wire the Village Hall and Public Library for service, after wiring the water tower.

We will have competition in Internet providers (both slow, but competition).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 1, 2018 • 11:01:57pm

re: #85 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

I wonder if Donald Trump thinks he can get asylum in Russia?

He will head our US Government in Exile after the Deep State Putsch and subsequent purge. With their own temporary headquarters in Magnitogorsk in the Urals.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 1, 2018 • 11:02:06pm

Speaking of slow, an E-mail just popped in my box from the Nebraska Emergency Management Agency warning us about the first tornado watches of the season today. (They were this afternoon.)

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austin_blue  May 1, 2018 • 11:03:48pm

re: #139 Teukka

If it goes VEI-8 instantly you’re SOL. However, if it begins with a single VEI-5, followed by several more, you might have a chance.

Sadly, it has a tendency to go VEI-8. History doesn’t *always* repeat, but it very often rhymes.

Even a VEI-7 would burgerize the Central US.

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Teukka  May 1, 2018 • 11:05:21pm

re: #144 austin_blue

Sadly, it has a tendency to go VEI-8. History doesn’t *always* repeat, but it very often rhymes.

Even a VEI-7 would burgerize the Central US.

You misread me, the sequence of events is usually a string of VEI-5’s or VEI-6’s popping, eventually forming an VEI-8. Yellowstone does not go insta-VEI-8 like Lake Toba.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 1, 2018 • 11:05:53pm

Could it be true? Are local law enforcement agencies taking obviously nonsense Antifa FB pages and typical III% panic/conspiracy/rabble-rousing misinformation posts at face value?
Thread

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Teukka  May 1, 2018 • 11:06:57pm

re: #144 austin_blue

Sadly, it has a tendency to go VEI-8. History doesn’t *always* repeat, but it very often rhymes.

Even a VEI-7 would burgerize the Central US.

Heck, even a VEI-6 in North America would throw a serious spanner in the works.

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TedStriker  May 1, 2018 • 11:09:01pm

re: #138 Anymouse 🌹

After the Yellowstone Disaster, we’ll be buried here too.

I don’t think there’ll be enough time to escape though.

re: #139 Teukka

If it goes VEI-8 instantly you’re SOL. However, if it begins with a single VEI-5, followed by several more, you might have a chance.

re: #140 austin_blue

Nope. You are pretty much dead (and cooked) meat. Sorry dude. Nature.

Just like Woody Harrelson’s character in 2012…

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freetoken  May 1, 2018 • 11:17:37pm

We all enjoy various BBC documentaries (don’t we?), given that they tend to be superior to American television shows.

Well, now BBC2 has made a history series like no other: Cunk on Britain.

For example, here is the trailer for episode 1:

Who’s this penis? - Cunk On Britain - BBC Two

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freetoken  May 1, 2018 • 11:20:21pm

I seriously doubt a history show like that could be made in the US.

Colbert could probably pull it off, though.

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freetoken  May 1, 2018 • 11:23:34pm

Episode 1 can be found on dailymotion:

dailymotion.com

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austin_blue  May 1, 2018 • 11:23:44pm

re: #145 Teukka

You misread me, the sequence of events is usually a string of VEI-5’s or VEI-6’s popping, eventually forming an VEI-8. Yellowstone does not go insta-VEI-8 like Lake Toba.

Agreed, but we don’t know if that is a feature or a trend. Yellowstone could pull a Toba as easily as not. These events are so random that we have no real handle on how they occur. One could hope for a warning for the Yellowstone super volcano blowing it’s lid, but there is no guaranty. That is just the nature of freak random geological events.

We really have a huge lack of solid science about deep earth processes. We know that the system is chaotic, but we have little hard information for prediction.

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2018 • 11:25:10pm

re: #136 austin_blue

waiting for teleskiguy to escape Denver after the Yellowstone disaster

I want to be close. If there are any credible early warning signs, I’ll drive the nine hours north and …

Giphy

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freetoken  May 1, 2018 • 11:25:55pm

re: #152 austin_blue

But the Earth is only 64 centuries old… so all your fancy lies about Yellowstone blowing up are wrong.

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austin_blue  May 1, 2018 • 11:27:23pm

re: #153 teleskiguy

I want to be close. If there are any credible early warning signs, I’ll drive the nine hours north and …

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More likely the opening of the Ark in Indiana Jones.

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fern01  May 1, 2018 • 11:28:21pm

re: #137 Anymouse 🌹

Kelly, a former banking executive, was banned for life from that industry in 2016 as The Intercept reported. Almost immediately thereafter, Pruitt appointed him to lead the EPA’s effort to prioritize and streamline the Superfund program.

The blatant employment of the fox to look after the hen house. Why is it that his minions are going but Pruitt is still there? I guess even foxes have values above trump & his cohorts.

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teleskiguy  May 1, 2018 • 11:29:52pm

re: #155 austin_blue

More likely the opening of the Ark in Indiana Jones.

Eh? Terminator 2.

Giphy

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 1, 2018 • 11:31:26pm

re: #149 freetoken

We all enjoy various BBC documentaries (don’t we?), given that they tend to be superior to American television shows.

Well, now BBC2 has made a history series like no other: Cunk on Britain.

For example, here is the trailer for episode 1:

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Video

They are taking the piss (to use a good British term) of the rather self-satisfied style of a lot of these historical/cultural documentaries.

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austin_blue  May 1, 2018 • 11:31:35pm

re: #154 freetoken

But the Earth is only 64 centuries old… so all your fancy lies about Yellowstone blowing up are wrong.

Well, yes, there is that. And there is a perfectly good explanation for it. GODDDDDD created the Earth with all of the fossils, flow basalts, volcanic debris, &c to fool us!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 1, 2018 • 11:32:36pm

re: #159 austin_blue

Well, yes, there is that. And there is a perfectly good explanation for it. GODDDDDD created the Earth with all of the fossils, flow basalts, volcanic debris, &c to fool us!

The Devil put them there to make us worship secular science and become atheists.

/

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austin_blue  May 1, 2018 • 11:34:03pm

Well, that’s it for me. Time for the rack. Sweet dreams. Respect and love for all.

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goddamnedfrank  May 1, 2018 • 11:49:05pm

cre: #153 teleskiguy

I want to be close. If there are any credible early warning signs, I’ll drive the nine hours north and …

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“I wanna dip my balls in it!”

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Chad Thundercock  May 2, 2018 • 12:24:13am

re: #149 freetoken

Philomena Cunk is my favourite British TV presenter.

Philomena Cunk’s Moments of Wonder Ep 1: Time

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freetoken  May 2, 2018 • 12:37:32am

re: #158 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are taking the piss (to use a good British term) of the rather self-satisfied style of a lot of these historical/cultural documentaries.

Ruthlessly she’s mocking the usual documentary style:

How did dinosaurs become extinct? - Cunk On Britain - BBC Two

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Patricia Kayden  May 2, 2018 • 1:36:06am

re: #51 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Good. Hope the other three are similarly convicted.

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Dr Lizardo  May 2, 2018 • 1:39:36am

re: #157 teleskiguy

Eh? Terminator 2.

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This is pretty good:

Volcano under YellowStone - (Supervolcano Eruption Scenario) by FirstscienceTV

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Amory Blaine  May 2, 2018 • 2:19:22am

‘Biohacker’ Who Injected Himself with DIY Herpes Treatment Found Dead

The CEO of a biomedical startup who sparked controversy when he injected himself with an untested herpes treatment in front of a live audience in February has died, according to an email sent to Live Science.

Aaron Traywick, the CEO of Ascendance Biomedical, was found dead at 11:30 a.m. ET on Sunday (April 29) in a spa room in Washington, D.C., according to a statement provided to Live Science by the Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) of the District of Columbia. Traywick was 28 years old.

According to the website news2share.com, Traywick was found in a flotation tank. Flotation tanks are soundproof pods filled with body-temperature saltwater that are used to promote “sensory deprivation.”

USA: Biohacker injects himself with home-made herpes vaccine

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sagehen  May 2, 2018 • 2:38:28am

re: #90 Ace-o-aces

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president barack obama - kanye west - jackass (actual video) 2009.09.16

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sagehen  May 2, 2018 • 3:02:23am

re: #167 Amory Blaine

‘Biohacker’ Who Injected Himself with DIY Herpes Treatment Found Dead

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Darwin award-winner?

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wheat-dogg  May 2, 2018 • 3:22:00am

re: #169 sagehen

Darwin award-winner?

I’m guessing he died of something other than his herpes injection, perhaps some kind of non-medicinal drug, which combined with the isolation tank’s conditions, led to heart failure or suffocation/asphyxiation.

I am not a doctor. Just suspectin’.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 2, 2018 • 3:23:59am

re: #170 wheat-dogg

I’m guessing he died of something other than his herpes injection, perhaps some kind of non-medicinal drug, which combined with the isolation tank’s conditions, led to heart failure or suffocation/asphyxiation.

I am not a doctor. Just suspectin’.

His physical condition was probably astonishingly excellent, so hoocoodanode?

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Amory Blaine  May 2, 2018 • 3:28:31am

This guy’s got some entertaining videos recording his adventures in rebuilding salvaged Tesla cars.

Tesla salvage inspection failure: it’s not fair!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2018 • 3:29:07am

re: #170 wheat-dogg

I’m guessing he died of something other than his herpes injection, perhaps some kind of non-medicinal drug, which combined with the isolation tank’s conditions, led to heart failure or suffocation/asphyxiation.

I am not a doctor. Just suspectin’.

neither was he, but you only suspect and do not perform experiments on yourself

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Anymouse 🌹  May 2, 2018 • 4:13:02am

No I wasn’t bumped off line by Yellowstone blowing.

My Internet service went out (again), and I was playing two hours of phone tag with my service provider.

Now I’m tired, so I’m going to rack out. Bye y’all.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 2, 2018 • 4:23:32am

On the way out, this can’t go wrong.

Facebook is going to start ranking news outlets by trustworthiness. That ranking will be based on user surveys.

huffingtonpost.com

They’re not going to pay news outlets to carry news, though. Zuckerberg says “that doesn’t make sense.” (He compares it to news outlets paying large carriage fees to cable companies.)

He also says they are putting into place a system to prevent screwing with the mid-term elections, by requiring an advertiser to use a government-issued ID to have a code mailed to a US address via the US Postal Service.

He also says he has tens of thousands of people to vet posts. (We’ve seen how well that works already.)

He also says he is quite concerned about so-called fake news and the company is developing AI software to deal with it. That is still ten years away though. (Wonderful.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2018 • 4:28:36am

re: #175 Anymouse 🌹

On the way out, this can’t go wrong.

Facebook is going to start ranking news outlets by trustworthiness. That ranking will be based on user surveys.

huffingtonpost.com

When we started using social media as a source of news about anything other than friends, family and local upcoming events, and especially when “Trending on Twitter” became a news item in and of itself, I began to fret for the future of the Republic.

And those fears seem to have been well founded.

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wheat-dogg  May 2, 2018 • 4:50:06am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

neither was he, but you only suspect and do not perform experiments on yourself

Apparently he never read any Robert Louis Stevenson. Or at least watched old horror movies.

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wheat-dogg  May 2, 2018 • 4:55:01am

re: #172 Amory Blaine

This guy’s got some entertaining videos recording his adventures in rebuilding salvaged Tesla cars.

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He would have found it a lot easier to buy a semiautomatic rifle at a gun show.

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makeitstop  May 2, 2018 • 5:02:10am
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Targetpractice  May 2, 2018 • 5:06:36am

re: #179 makeitstop

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And when has a lack of security clearances ever stopped these morons?

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Hecuba's daughter  May 2, 2018 • 5:11:13am

re: #180 Targetpractice

And when has a lack of security clearances ever stopped these morons?

Can’t our traitor-in-chief declassify anything he wants? As President, doesn’t he have the authorization to see any document, no matter its security level, and pass it on to anyone he wants, including his attorneys or Putin?

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steve_davis  May 2, 2018 • 5:17:40am

re: #27 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

A plain factual statement from Wikipedia puts it all in perspective:

and the Mississippi ran backwards. not only did it run backwards, but it did so at such a clip that reportedly traffic on it had men holding on to their hats so they wouldn’t blow off.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 2, 2018 • 5:24:50am

re: #113 Hecuba’s daughter

Is Netanyahu doing this only to distract Israelis and avoid criminal indictment? Or is he delusional enough to think war is a good idea? Unlike Trump, Netanyahu is actually intelligent, but intelligence is no substitute for good judgement.

Booby Nincompoopo wants us to do his dirty work for him. Which is why he is in bed with the Radical Xtians who want to bring on Armageddon.

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Barefoot Grin  May 2, 2018 • 5:25:37am

I grew up on the prairie in Illinois. I loved seeing storms mass in the distance, seeing a curtain of heavy rain only a few hundred feet away, the smash and crack of lightning. But I never saw a tornado. My dad survived one and he always had us in the basement at first warning.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 2, 2018 • 5:27:41am

re: #120 Anymouse 🌹

Paid my property taxes today. They were one day late (dammit), so I had to pay a penalty.

The penalty was six cents.

That seems hardly worth collecting.

But, imagine the six cents multiplied by the 124 people in your town….that’s a whopping $7.44.

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Sir John Barron  May 2, 2018 • 5:48:00am

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

“With those details in hand, Trump lawyer Jay Sekulow compiled a list of 49 questions that the team believed the president would be asked…”

— Maddow Blog

Let’s not understate the lawyerly accomplishment here. I mean, his lawyer actually did something more than appear on television.

///

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steve_davis  May 2, 2018 • 5:51:52am

re: #149 freetoken

We all enjoy various BBC documentaries (don’t we?), given that they tend to be superior to American television shows.

Well, now BBC2 has made a history series like no other: Cunk on Britain.

For example, here is the trailer for episode 1:

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“and where did they go after they’d conquered Britain?”
“Well, they tried to go to Scotland, but decided it wasn’t worth going there.”
“Yeah, I felt that.”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 2, 2018 • 5:53:13am

re: #159 austin_blue

…. volcanic debris, &c to fool us!

Anymouse has left his imprinteur on your posting linguistics.

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Dave In Austin  May 2, 2018 • 5:53:14am

I guess this is going around.

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MsJ  May 2, 2018 • 5:54:01am

re: #186 Sir John Barron

Let’s not understate the lawyerly accomplishment here. I mean, his lawyer actually did something more than appear on television.

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2018 • 5:54:25am

Morning!

After reading through the thread a bit and seeing all the talk of tornadoes and then Yellowstone going kablamo and taking out North America…I think I should just go back to bed.

How do we go on?!

And then there is Trump.

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jeffreyw  May 2, 2018 • 5:54:48am

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Good morning!

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 5:55:36am

re: #189 Dave In Austin

I guess this is going around.

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That’s what we need to do. Mockery.

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Belafon  May 2, 2018 • 5:56:15am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

When we started using social media as a source of news about anything other than friends, family and local upcoming events, and especially when “Trending on Twitter” became a news item in and of itself, I began to fret for the future of the Republic.

And those fears seem to have been well founded.

“It’s not our fault people think Nazi’s are wonderful news sources.” - Mark, next year

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MsJ  May 2, 2018 • 5:56:17am

re: #189 Dave In Austin

That was hysterical!

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lawhawk  May 2, 2018 • 5:57:58am

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

maggie is getting thrashed in replies to her tweet.

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It’s abnormal alright.

Someone’s putting on the Ritz.

Puttin’ on the Ritz! - Movie Scene

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MsJ  May 2, 2018 • 5:59:20am

Thread. This is freaking sad.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 5:59:29am

re: #195 MsJ

That was hysterical!

You got helped by a liberal!

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2018 • 5:59:40am

re: #192 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Is that a woodpecker taking a woodpecker stance on the edge of the table?

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dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 6:02:10am

if you haven’t seen it yet,

Klys and Dangerman present:

The LGF RunDisney-StarWars-DarkSide Meet up and Half Marathon Extravaganza

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Sir John Barron  May 2, 2018 • 6:02:37am

re: #83 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Embracing Kanye West to own the libs.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 2, 2018 • 6:04:12am

re: #197 MsJ

Thread. This is freaking sad.

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What a disgrace! Hedge funds have contributed to the decline of this country. They care about nothing but profits, certainly nothing about the businesses that become their prey.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 2, 2018 • 6:05:28am

Israel is going to set off something awful if they don’t back up a bit. What with Trump and Netanyahu being far right wing guys…

Let’s Talk About This Rumor That Israeli F-15s Mimicked US Jets To Strike At Iran In Syria
thedrive.com

The idea put forth is that Israeli F-15 jets used American IFF codes and de-confliction corridors to get into Syria. That can’t happen without US help. The Russians don’t light up our planes with fire control radar let alone shoot at them, for now. Poke the bear enough and it will bite.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 6:06:15am

re: #201 Sir John Barron

Embracing Kanye West to own the libs.

They chose a guy that most everyone sees as an obnoxious joke. Great job cons!

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Unshaken Defiance  May 2, 2018 • 6:06:55am

re: #200 dangerman

Hey you guys inspired a couple of us west coast Lizards to set up a get together. No marathon though. Pub stroll maybe.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 2, 2018 • 6:07:55am

LGF chess boxing tournament.

Make it happen, people.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 6:11:16am

re: #200 dangerman

if you haven’t seen it yet,

Klys and Dangerman present:

The LGF RunDisney-StarWars-DarkSide Meet up and Half Marathon Extravaganza

How fun. Nice to put faces to names. You can’t pay me to run though. But you guys looked like you had a lot of fun.

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MsJ  May 2, 2018 • 6:12:58am

re: #204 HappyWarrior

They chose a guy that most everyone sees as an obnoxious joke. Great job cons!

Well, to be honest, people with any freaking sense at all wouldn’t espouse the kind of ignorance that Kanye did. I mean…read a book, Kanye. This is a guy, btw, who said a few months ago he was going to run for president. UGH.

Enjoy cons. Really.

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MsJ  May 2, 2018 • 6:15:12am

From the Sucks To Be You file.

Spencer, a white nationalist, became a figurehead of the alt-right during the movement’s rise to prominence in the 2016 election, after which Spencer reworked a Nazi chant to praise Donald Trump during a speech condemning Jews. A series of media profiles described Spencer as a well-dressed leader who could legitimize the alt-right.

That was then.

In March, his longtime lawyer publicly quit the alt-right. Last week, one of Spencer’s assistants quietly filed an order dismissing Spencer’s last lawsuit against a college. Days later, Spencer was on YouTube asking supporters for $25,000 to support him through a lawsuit against him and other actors in the deadly Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia last August.

He, like Trump, didn’t pay his lawyers. Don’t ever not pay your lawyers.

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A Mom Anon  May 2, 2018 • 6:15:40am

re: #208 MsJ

Yeah, they can have Kanye. For the love of god PLEASE.

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A Mom Anon  May 2, 2018 • 6:17:08am

re: #209 MsJ

And me with my tiny violin at the cleaners…what a shame…

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makeitstop  May 2, 2018 • 6:21:28am

re: #210 A Mom Anon

Yeah, they can have Kanye. For the love of god PLEASE.

Kanye is, for wingnuts, the perfect Useful Idiot. They swarmed his Twitter feed, dropping all kinds of nasty ‘thoughts’ (including the ‘slavery was a choice’ crap), and Kanye picked the ones he thought sounded deep or profound and retweeted them and repeated them in that disaster of an interview he did yesterday.

And in return, the wingnuts took Ye’s parroting of their stupid shit and retweeted that, thereby weaponizing a black man’s words against black people. Boom, instant talking points.

It could not have worked out any better for the racists. Kanye walked right into it.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 2, 2018 • 6:22:24am

re: #208 MsJ

Well, to be honest, people with any freaking sense at all wouldn’t espouse the kind of ignorance that Kanye did. I mean…read a book, Kanye. This is a guy, btw, who said a few months ago he was going to run for president. UGH.

Enjoy cons. Really.

“Don the Con” at least just rhymes. This guy’s name is literally “Con ya?” And the cons say “Yes, please!”

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A Mom Anon  May 2, 2018 • 6:23:54am

re: #212 makeitstop

Yep. Kanye leads a very sheltered life. Money has a very good insulation effect. I’m also pretty convinced money makes most people stupid and evil. Not a good combo.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  May 2, 2018 • 6:24:52am

re: #210 A Mom Anon

Yeah, they can have Kanye. For the love of god PLEASE.

The Black Delegation has already secured the racial rights to Eminem.

If we trade Kanye, we have to at least get back Sam Smith, and maybe Nick Saban.

YouTube

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 2, 2018 • 6:29:44am

re: #215 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

The Black Delegation has already secured the racial rights to Eminem.

If we trade Kanye, we have to at least get back Sam Smith, and maybe Nick Saban.

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Some tweet downstairs offered white folks Kanye in exchange for Michael McDonald. No way in hell!

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jeffreyw  May 2, 2018 • 6:30:08am

re: #199 ObserverArt

Is that a woodpecker taking a woodpecker stance on the edge of the table?

Yep! It’s a red bellied woodpecker, a frequent visitor at the picnic table.

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MsJ  May 2, 2018 • 6:31:03am
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 6:31:12am

re: #215 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

The Black Delegation has already secured the racial rights to Eminem.

If we trade Kanye, we have to at least get back Sam Smith, and maybe Nick Saban.

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Video

I assume Em was what they call a blue chip prospect(I know you know your sports terms). Man I don’t want Kanye.

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I cannot.  May 2, 2018 • 6:31:47am

re: #189 Dave In Austin

George Soros spares no expense on his signs…but he keeps skipping out on my fcking paycheck!

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makeitstop  May 2, 2018 • 6:31:55am

re: #215 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

The Black Delegation has already secured the racial rights to Eminem.

And the Crips have passed the word that Kanye is not their friend.

Supporting Trump was a bonehead move in about 10 different ways.

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MsJ  May 2, 2018 • 6:32:15am

re: #217 jeffreyw

Yep! It’s a red bellied woodpecker, a frequent visitor at the picnic table.

They all look like they’re wondering where their food is. Feed those things, man! They’re hangry!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 2, 2018 • 6:32:57am

re: #200 dangerman

Nice synopsis. Nice to see lizards our in the wild having fun. Is that Mrs. DM with the red hair? Redheads are the bestest, I tricked one into marrying me, too.

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makeitstop  May 2, 2018 • 6:35:01am
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 6:35:13am

Funny second hand story about my niece. As you guys know, she’s getting older obviously and more aware of the world around her. She has noticed that her Dad- my brother and the rest of our family are blue eyed and fair skinned and her mom and her family are more dark eyed and brown skinned. She wanted to know why she didn’t have blue eyes so we told her that her Daddy having really blue eyes and her mom having like wise really brown eyes helped give her the unique eye color she has. She also sees her maternal family as “brown” so yeah she’s aware of her bi-racial and cultural identity. Or Bi-poopie as she said last night which got her a mild lecture from her mom about talking that way in front of her grandma and great grandma. I’m going to have so much fun with her this summer. I think she’s old enough that I can teach her a little about the family history stuff I’ve been doing for the past few years.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 6:35:58am

re: #224 makeitstop

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Bill thinks Trump is this chess player but he’s really a fucking idiot who lucked out big time.

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2018 • 6:36:12am

re: #221 makeitstop

And the Crips have passed the word that Kanye is not their friend.

Supporting Trump was a bonehead move in about 10 different ways.

Kanye will try a run for president next. He probably figures if Obama could pull it off, no big thing for him.

The guy has a universe-class ego.

But he will have to come down off the cross first.

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A Mom Anon  May 2, 2018 • 6:37:23am

re: #225 HappyWarrior

You sir, are an excellent uncle. She is very lucky to have such a positive role model.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 6:37:41am

re: #227 ObserverArt

Kanye will try a run for president next. He probably figures if Obama could pull it off, no big thing for him.

The guy has a universe-class ego.

But he will have to come down off the cross first.

He’s always had a huge ego. Like thinking Kanye was an obnoxious prick I thought was one of those universally agreed upon things like the Westboro Baptist Church sucks, Nazis are bad, and Donald Trump is an obnoxious boob but as you can see with where I’m going, I’ve been proven wrong with the latter two.

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jeffreyw  May 2, 2018 • 6:37:51am

re: #222 MsJ

They all look like they’re wondering where their food is. Feed those things, man! They’re hangry!

Imgur


“I’m coming, I’m coming,” he explained.

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MsJ  May 2, 2018 • 6:38:38am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 2, 2018 • 6:39:04am

re: #227 ObserverArt

Kanye will try a run for president next. He probably figures if Obama could pull it off, no big thing for him.

The guy has a universe-class ego.

But he will have to come down off the cross first.

First Lady Kim Kardashian. The MSM’ll love that!

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 6:39:25am

re: #228 A Mom Anon

You sir, are an excellent uncle. She is very lucky to have such a positive role model.

She’s got great parents too. I’m not a praying man but my grandma who’s been having some heart troubles lately was told by her that she’s praying for her. teared me up Obviously my brother and SiL told her about that. And she did a beautiful version of God Bless America too. I definitely want her to be aware of all the unique cultures that make up her story but also our country as a whole. Out of one, many.

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MsJ  May 2, 2018 • 6:41:16am

re: #232 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

First Lady Kim Kardashian. The MSM’ll love that!

Oh god. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. They’d love that. Shoot me now.

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Dave In Austin  May 2, 2018 • 6:41:43am
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ObserverArt  May 2, 2018 • 6:41:47am

re: #232 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

First Lady Kim Kardashian. The MSM’ll love that!

Can you imagine the Kardashian klan in the White House?

I think that would be end times for humanity.

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Dave In Austin  May 2, 2018 • 6:44:26am

re: #230 jeffreyw

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“I’m coming, I’m coming,” he explained.

I have a hummingbird feeder by the front door. It doesn’t stay empty long. The doorway becomes a free-fire zone until it gets filled.

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Dr Lizardo  May 2, 2018 • 6:44:42am

re: #236 ObserverArt

Can you imagine the Kardashian klan in the White House?

I think that would be end times for humanity.

The USA would become the ultimate laughingstock.

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Belafon  May 2, 2018 • 6:45:58am

re: #225 HappyWarrior

I have heterochromatic eyes with brown surrounding the pupil and green around that, and left handed. My wife is blue eyed and right handed.

First son: heterochromatic and right handed.
Second son: heterochromatic and right handed.
Third son: blue eyed and left handed.

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lawhawk  May 2, 2018 • 6:46:13am
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MsJ  May 2, 2018 • 6:46:16am

re: #238 Dr Lizardo

The USA would become the ultimate laughingstock.

Aren’t we already?

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Dave In Austin  May 2, 2018 • 6:47:43am
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lawhawk  May 2, 2018 • 6:47:46am
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 6:49:19am

re: #239 Belafon

I have heterochromatic eyes with brown surrounding the pupil and green around that, and left handed. My wife is blue eyed and right handed.

First son: heterochromatic and right handed.
Second son: heterochromatic and right handed.
Third son: blue eyed and left handed.

It’s crazy how it all works out. Both my grandfathers were left handed and each of my parents had a left handed sibling. I’m the only one of my brothers and I that is. Niece is a lefty though which made me very happy. Her abuelo is as well. And honestly it shows, she’s very aristic minded.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 6:50:03am

re: #243 lawhawk

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Gee Chris didn’t you mock us when we called the note silly. This whole Trump business just gets weirder and weirder by the day.

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I cannot.  May 2, 2018 • 6:51:31am

re: #238 Dr Lizardo

Ehh…the Kardashians kids at least have built their own brand, as opposed to sponging off of dad’s rep. And the dumb Kardashian kid is smarter than the smart Trump kid.

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MsJ  May 2, 2018 • 6:52:57am

re: #245 HappyWarrior

Gee Chris didn’t you mock us when we called the note silly. This whole Trump business just gets weirder and weirder by the day.

Seriously, fuck that guy.

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MsJ  May 2, 2018 • 6:53:14am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 2, 2018 • 6:54:33am

re: #245 HappyWarrior

Gee Chris didn’t you mock us when we called the note silly. This whole Trump business just gets weirder and weirder by the day.

“Silly” and “felony” are not mutually exclusive.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 6:57:02am

re: #247 MsJ

Seriously, fuck that guy.

Yep.

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jeffreyw  May 2, 2018 • 6:57:18am

re: #237 Dave In Austin

I have a hummingbird feeder by the front door. It doesn’t stay empty long. The doorway becomes a free-fire zone until it gets filled.

Our flock hasn’t arrived yet, a few flit about but minutes go by without a feeder visit. When they get going we will fill 5 or 6 feeders daily.

Imgur

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Hecuba's daughter  May 2, 2018 • 6:58:20am

re: #238 Dr Lizardo

The USA would become the ultimate laughingstock.

In the Year 2 of Our Trump, we already are.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2018 • 7:02:22am

as if he actually read beyond the title…

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Dave In Austin  May 2, 2018 • 7:03:53am

re: #251 jeffreyw

That’s crazy…. We get a majority of Black-Chins here and a few RT but never in those numbers.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 7:03:55am

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

as if he actually read beyond the title…

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Yawn.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 2, 2018 • 7:03:57am

re: #252 Hecuba’s daughter

In the Year 2 of Our Trump, we already are.

It’s ironic that now that the Soviet Union is gone, their interpretation of the U.S. has become true.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 2, 2018 • 7:04:38am

the modern GOP must be so proud:

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Hecuba's daughter  May 2, 2018 • 7:04:47am

re: #226 HappyWarrior

Bill thinks Trump is this chess player but he’s really a fucking idiot who lucked out big time.

Trump is not an idiot — his supporters are. He is a malicious money-laundering crime boss who is using his new position to destroy us and enrich himself.

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makeitstop  May 2, 2018 • 7:06:47am

We finally got a beautiful, cloudless day here on the island. My wife took the day off (although she’s still doing some work remotely), and I’m doing some small final bits on a new site for a booking agent down in Florida.

Within the hour we’ll be bagging it and heading off to the nearby Bayard Cutting Arboretum to snap some photos and then grabbing lunch somewhere local. Yay, Spring!

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Belafon  May 2, 2018 • 7:06:55am

re: #256 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s ironic that now that the Soviet Union is gone, their interpretation of the U.S. has become true.

They were the one thing holding us back. We adopted a number of social program in the 50s and 60s to prevent capitalism from collapsing the way the Marxism said we would in order to be better than the USSR. Now that they’re gone, we don’t need them.

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jeffreyw  May 2, 2018 • 7:12:27am

re: #254 Dave In Austin

That’s crazy…. We get a majority of Black-Chins here and a few RT but never in those numbers.

All we get are the ruby throats, I’ve never seen anything else at our feeders.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 7:13:11am

re: #258 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump is not an idiot — his supporters are. He is a malicious money-laundering crime boss who is using his new position to destroy us and enrich himself.

I can see that but I think he’s ignorant too.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 2, 2018 • 7:16:44am

re: #230 jeffreyw

“I’m coming, I’m coming,” he explained.

You’re a good bird-dad.

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gocart mozart  May 2, 2018 • 7:19:35am

re: #103 teleskiguy

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lawhawk  May 2, 2018 • 7:19:47am
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 7:23:13am

re: #265 lawhawk

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He already has gonnerea of the mouth.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 2, 2018 • 7:25:11am

I thought I would only see this in cartoons and zombie movies

ORANGE CITY, Fla. — Police said a paving machine ran over and killed a construction worker in Florida.

Orange City police Lt. Jason Sampsell told news outlets 72-year-old Ulysses Tolbert was driving the machine Tuesday when he fell off and was partially run over. The Deltona man had been applying asphalt for a parking lot at a medical facility under construction.

Sampsell said Tolbert’s fellow workers tried to get the machine off him. Authorities were called and pronounced him dead at the scene.

nypost.com

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gocart mozart  May 2, 2018 • 7:31:30am

re: #149 freetoken

She’s great

Shitpeas and Cunk on Immigration

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Sir John Barron  May 2, 2018 • 7:32:17am

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

NEW BOOK - A MUST READ! “The Russia Hoax - The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump” by the brilliant Fox News Legal Analyst Gregg Jarrett. A sad chapter for law enforcement. A rigged system!

— Donald J. Trump

Can’t wait to not buy this “book”.

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MsJ  May 2, 2018 • 7:33:06am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2018 • 7:33:11am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2018 • 7:36:03am
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Hecuba's daughter  May 2, 2018 • 7:36:11am

re: #262 HappyWarrior

I can see that but I think he’s ignorant too.

He’s smart in the ways he needs to be smart for himself — conning people. As you said, Trump is ignorant but he doesn’t care. He knows what he needs to advance his goals, which have nothing to do with managing a democracy or helping the average citizen. He wants to run the nation like he ran his business: listening to no one except himself

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 7:36:53am

re: #270 MsJ

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Nope Cheri. You had your chance.

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Sir John Barron  May 2, 2018 • 7:37:19am

re: #267 Shropshire Slasher

I thought I would only see this in cartoons and zombie movies

nypost.com

Not good at any age, but sorry to see someone 72 years old still working construction. Didn’t get to enjoy retirement.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 7:37:34am

re: #271 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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O’Douche needs a real job.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 2, 2018 • 7:37:58am

re: #269 Sir John Barron

Can’t wait to not buy this “book”.

and not read it!

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Sir John Barron  May 2, 2018 • 7:38:26am

re: #271 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Well, teachers unions are almost as bad as minorities who want to vote.

//

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MsJ  May 2, 2018 • 7:40:26am

re: #277 Hecuba’s daughter

Uhm…

Can’t wait to not buy this “book”.

and…

and not read it!

How does that work?? ;-)

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Mattand  May 2, 2018 • 7:42:21am

re: #277 Hecuba’s daughter

Utterly off-topic reply: a few days ago, you asked about the charging rate on my car, an electric Chevy Bolt.

With a Level 2 charger, which most people install at home and usually what you see in public, it’ll add 25 miles to the battery per hour.

For example, I was down 20% charge yesterday. I plugged in around 4PM and it was fully charged by 11:45 PM. Most people don’t usually let it get that low, but you can plug it in at night and have a full charge by morning.

Sorry for the delayed response and hope that helps.

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Sir John Barron  May 2, 2018 • 7:43:00am

re: #268 gocart mozart

She’s great

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Wait, is it possible the ‘caravan’ from Mexico swarming over our great MAGA border might include actual human beings?

///

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 2, 2018 • 7:44:29am

re: #279 MsJ

Uhm…

and…

How does that work?? ;-)

Did it say: “By Erwin Schrödinger”?

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Sir John Barron  May 2, 2018 • 7:44:42am

re: #274 HappyWarrior

Nope Cheri. You had your chance.

Hmmm, Cheri’s been pretty solid, at least on the Twitters.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 7:47:08am

re: #283 Sir John Barron

Hmmm, Cheri’s been pretty solid, at least on the Twitters.

I just don’t know what the Never Trump Republicans want from us. We’re Democrats after all not what they think their party should be.

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Eventual Carrion  May 2, 2018 • 7:48:21am

re: #278 Sir John Barron

Well, teachers unions are almost as bad as minorities who want to vote.

//

All unions are BAD (except for police unions of course).

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Hecuba's daughter  May 2, 2018 • 7:48:34am

re: #280 Mattand

Utterly off-topic reply: a few days ago, you asked about the charging rate on my car, an electric Chevy Bolt.

With a Level 2 charger, which most people install at home and usually what you see in public, it’ll add 25 miles to the battery per hour.

For example, I was down 20% charge yesterday. I plugged in around 4PM and it was fully charged by 11:45 PM. Most people don’t usually let it get that low, but you can plug it in at night and have a full charge by morning.

Sorry for the delayed response and hope that helps.

That’s why I won’t get a fully electric car for now — they need a much longer range and a much faster charge to actually interest me. Not that I’m in the market for a new car — I generally wait till my old car is totaled in an accident before replacing it.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 2, 2018 • 7:50:30am

re: #279 MsJ

Uhm…

and…

How does that work?? ;-)

Lots of books I’ve read without purchasing — and if you saw my library, a lot of books purchased but not read!

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MsJ  May 2, 2018 • 7:52:07am

re: #284 HappyWarrior

I just don’t know what the Never Trump Republicans want from us. We’re Democrats after all not what they think their party should be.

This.

She’s advocating for republican (before they went completely off the rails) policies. She’s touting Reagan and cutting taxes and less government as some kind of grand compromise.

Adult leadership would focus on tackling a budget deficit that is now predicted to exceed $1 trillion every year for decades with responsible spending by first and foremost zeroing in on budgetary and government waste and fraud in a meaningful way. Americans expect this and are angry Washington doesn’t do this annually by default. Be the grown up party and do it.

This is not “Democrat” thought in any goddamned fashion.

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MsJ  May 2, 2018 • 7:53:07am
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Mattand  May 2, 2018 • 7:53:16am

re: #286 Hecuba’s daughter

That’s why I won’t get a fully electric car for now — they need a much longer range and a much faster charge to actually interest me. Not that I’m in the market for a new car — I generally wait till my old car is totaled in an accident before replacing it.

Yeah, that’s the key when considering all electric. I looked at my driving habits and realized I was rarely taking long trips. The longest commute I recently had was to Wilmington, DE, which is 80 miles round trip. I could go two days in normal weather before having to recharge.

Speaking of weather: that will definitely affect battery life. The Bolt’s battery is rated for 238 miles. In that abnormal Arctic weather we had on the East Cost, the range dropped to 160. On the plus side, with the the early summer temps we’re having now, my range is creeping up to 260.

I honestly do think that if people are driving 100 miles a day or less, they should really look at an electric car, and I have a major thumbs up for the Bolt.

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Belafon  May 2, 2018 • 7:57:09am

re: #270 MsJ

Here’s my outreach: Hey, we’re the Democratic party. We’re not trying to run the country into the ground, do Putin’s bidding, or sell it to the highest bidder. Come join is if you feel the same.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 2, 2018 • 7:57:26am

re: #290 Mattand

Yeah, that’s the key when considering all electric. I looked at my driving habits and realized I was rarely taking long trips. The longest commute I recently had was to Wilmington, DE, which 80 miles round trip. I could go two days in normal weather before having to recharge.

Speaking of weather: that will definitely affect battery life. The Bolt’s battery is rated for 238 miles. In that abnormal Arctic weather we had on the East Cost, the range dropped to 160. On the plus side, with the the early summer temps we’re having now, my range is creeping up to 260.

I honestly do think that if people are driving 100 miles a day or less, they should really look at an electric car, and I have a major thumbs up for the Bolt.

It’s not the typical commute that is a problem — it’s the occasional much longer trip. I don’t necessarily want to rent a car for a day when I’m traveling 250 miles.

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Sir John Barron  May 2, 2018 • 7:59:15am

re: #284 HappyWarrior

I just don’t know what the Never Trump Republicans want from us. We’re Democrats after all not what they think their party should be.

I haven’t read her column or op-ed if that’s what it is. Unfortunately the budget situation is going to be very difficult to resolve without tax increases of some kind, unless the economy really grows by exponential margins, which isn’t likely to happen without the Fed raising interest rates to slow it back down to prevent inflation.

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MsJ  May 2, 2018 • 7:59:37am

re: #289 MsJ

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retired cynic  May 2, 2018 • 7:59:48am

re: #230 jeffreyw

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“I’m coming, I’m coming,” he explained.

My raccoons get right out there in the broad daylight and shake the poles, since I have everything high enough they can’t get there. I bang on the window, and they look up and say, “Whaddayawant?” They went out on a SMALL limb and hauled up the oriole feeder and tanked up on sugar water.

I guess I’m going to have to get a dog, as the three old house cats and the two feral cats aren’t proving much of a preventative.

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Jay C  May 2, 2018 • 8:00:30am

re: #270 MsJ

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Yeah, well the big tell here is that term “far left”: which, as far as today’s Republicans tend to go, is a near-meaningless catch-all phrase which boils down to “anything not stock GOP wingnuttery”: which they take as granted is the political “norm” (and have, disgracefully, convinced huge swaths of the country - contrary to reality - likewise).

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MsJ  May 2, 2018 • 8:00:50am

re: #293 Sir John Barron

I haven’t read her column or op-ed if that’s what it is. Unfortunately the budget situation is going to be very difficult to resolve without tax increases of some kind, unless the economy really grows by exponential margins, which isn’t likely to happen without the Fed raising interest rates to slow it back down to prevent inflation.

And you already know how it will go when taxes have to be raised.

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Belafon  May 2, 2018 • 8:01:34am

re: #292 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s not the typical commute that is a problem — it’s the occasional much longer trip. I don’t necessarily want to rent a car for a day when I’m traveling 250 miles.

How often are you making those trips?

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MsJ  May 2, 2018 • 8:05:18am
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dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 8:07:23am

re: #205 Unshaken Defiance

Hey you guys inspired a couple of us west coast Lizards to set up a get together. No marathon though. Pub stroll maybe

…alas, if only….

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Dr Lizardo  May 2, 2018 • 8:10:18am

re: #299 MsJ

White Texas school principal tells staff that next time a black disabled child tries to leave school grounds, “We won’t chase him. We will call the police and tell them he has a gun so they can come faster.”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 2, 2018 • 8:10:27am

re: #295 retired cynic

I guess I’m going to have to get a dog, as the three old house cats and the two feral cats aren’t proving much of a preventative.

Raccoons vs. cats is a very bad idea.

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dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 8:12:14am

re: #207 HappyWarrior

How fun. Nice to put faces to names. You can’t pay me to run though. But you guys looked like you had a lot of fun.

thinking back to when i first started running, i never thought i would ever actually be able to run a 13.1 or a 26.2, let alone even want to
i certainly never considered that one day i’d say something like “yeah, we had a great time and talked the whole way”

life constantly reminds me that it takes me where it wants and not where i’m aiming

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 8:12:31am

re: #299 MsJ

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JFC.

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Dr Lizardo  May 2, 2018 • 8:14:01am

So, found out one of my students today is a big-time Lovecraft fan. I had no idea, LOL.

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Patricia Kayden  May 2, 2018 • 8:15:47am

re: #82 gocart mozart

I may join Twitter just to follow Ms. Wolf and Ms. Daniels. Good to see women take on Trump sycophants and apologists so strongly. They never back down. Love them!!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 2, 2018 • 8:15:50am

re: #299 MsJ

That’s not a joke. A true educator who cared about students (especially one with behavioural disabilities) would never even think that, let alone say it outloud. The comment (IMHO) exposed her true racist feelings about a child .

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Eventual Carrion  May 2, 2018 • 8:16:07am

re: #299 MsJ

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These people are scum of the earth. I don’t give a fuck what “good christian people” their corrupt church leaders tell them they are. Nothing but low-life scum.

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dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 8:16:31am

re: #223 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Nice synopsis. Nice to see lizards our in the wild having fun. Is that Mrs. DM with the red hair? Redheads are the bestest, I tricked one into marrying me, too.

yup

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Weaselone  May 2, 2018 • 8:17:22am

re: #288 MsJ

budgetary and government waste and fraud in a meaningful way

Not this again. Other than the possible exception of the military and what Republicans have added since Trump was elected, the amount of what the government “wastes” isn’t a particularly large portion of the overall budget and what is taken by fraud in most cases is less than what it would cost to reduce the fraud. Republicans have been cutting “waste and fraud” for decades. So either there shouldn’t be much “waste and fraud” at this point, or they haven’t actually been working to reduce either just screw poor people and the environment.

They want low hanging fruit for deficit reduction? Fully fund the fucking IRS and put in a new tax bracket starting at 1 million+.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 2, 2018 • 8:18:24am

re: #309 dangerman

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dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 8:19:13am

re: #224 makeitstop

There is no plan.

this over and over

YouTube

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Patricia Kayden  May 2, 2018 • 8:19:54am

re: #299 MsJ

That’s what she thought was a joke? At a time when (mostly unarmed) Black people are being shot down by cops, what she said isn’t remotely close to being funny. She should lose her job.

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MsJ  May 2, 2018 • 8:21:33am

re: #313 Patricia Kayden

That’s what she thought was a joke? At a time when (mostly unarmed) Black people are being shot down by cops, what she said isn’t remotely close to being funny. She should lose her job.

And never be allowed to be in a position of authority over children again. Ever.

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2018 • 8:21:43am

re: #284 HappyWarrior

I just don’t know what the Never Trump Republicans want from us. We’re Democrats after all not what they think their party should be.

What are Republican moderates doing to stop far right Trumpism?

Retiring.

Hiding in the corners.

Not speaking up about Trump.

Not putting a stop to wingnut over-the-top media coverage.

Not working with Democrats currently.

Maybe Cheri needs to have her party grow some and stand up and show their own moderate never-Trump voters someone in their own damn party is going to do something.

Then we can all talk.

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Weaselone  May 2, 2018 • 8:22:35am

re: #299 MsJ

That should be principle “temporarily on leave pending the outcome of an investigation” followed quickly by ex-principle after the investigation is completed.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 8:22:45am

re: #315 ObserverArt

What are Republican moderates doing to stop far right Trumpism?

Retiring.

Hiding in the corners.

Not speaking up about Trump.

Not putting a stop to wingnut over-the-top media coverage.

Not working with Democrats currently.

Maybe Cheri needs to have her party grow some and stand up and show their own moderate never-Trump voters someone in their own damn party is going to do something.

Then we can all talk.

Thank you, my points exactly. Fix your party.

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dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 8:23:31am

re: #243 lawhawk

The current president of the United States faked a doctor’s note about his overall health.

chris - that wasnt a “doctor’s note”

it was an opinion letter written with the knowledge that the intended audience was the public.

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dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 8:24:46am

re: #251 jeffreyw

Our flock hasn’t arrived yet, a few flit about but minutes go by without a feeder visit. When they get going we will fill 5 or 6 feeders daily.

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this is my jealous face

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2018 • 8:27:16am

re: #270 MsJ

She suffers from the same delusions as most if not all NeverTrump Republicans, that the Republican Party was about small government, fiscal responsibility, low taxes, responsible regulation, and encouraging entrepreneurship. They think that’s what drew the white working class to Reagan and the GOP, and conveniently forget “Welfare Queens” and “Young bucks buying T-bone steaks with food stamps”. And they all can’t or won’t deal with the fact that the Republican electorate loves Trump like they’ve loved no other GOP President, because it was never about small government, fiscal responsibility, low taxes, responsible regulation, and encouraging entrepreneurship.

It’s race. It’s always been race.

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Jay C  May 2, 2018 • 8:30:21am

re: #318 dangerman

chris - that wasnt a “doctor’s note”

it was an opinion letter written with the knowledge that the intended audience was the public.

Was it just an “opinion letter”? Or was Dr. Bornstein’s glowing encomium to The Donald’s splendid health meant to be taken* as some sort of objective assessment as to the then-candidate’s actual physical condition? As, similarly, VADM Ronny Jackson’s more-recent piece of what is increasingly likely to have been medical fiction?

*”taken” in the sense of “bullshit palmed off on a gullible public as objective reality”: i.e. the Trump Administration in a nutshell.

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dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 8:30:58am

re: #284 HappyWarrior

I just don’t know what the Never Trump Republicans want from us. We’re Democrats after all not what they think their party should be.

they’ve been booted out of their “home”
they’re looking for a new one
the first step is to redecorate

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2018 • 8:36:32am

re: #321 Jay C

Was it just an “opinion letter”? Or was Dr. Bornstein’s glowing encomium to The Donald’s splendid health meant to be taken* as some sort of objective assessment as to the then-candidate’s actual physical condition? As, similarly, VADM Ronny Jackson’s more-recent piece of what is increasingly likely to have been medical fiction?

*”taken” in the sense of “bullshit palmed off on a gullible public as objective reality”: i.e. the Trump Administration in a nutshell.

Didn’t the doc say Trump wrote the letter? It sounds more like the Doc was just taking dictation, threw is a couple numbers and signed his name.

I kind of wonder if they didn’t pressure the doc to “write” the letter in the same manner they bulled their way into his office to take Trump’s records.

It’s all very strange…as it has been when we first saw the letter and images of the Doctor. Strange as in everything we are learning about The Great Trump.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 2, 2018 • 8:39:21am

re: #320 Blind Frog Belly White

She suffers from the same delusions as most if not all NeverTrump Republicans, that the Republican Party was about small government, fiscal responsibility, low taxes, responsible regulation, and encouraging entrepreneurship. They think that’s what drew the white working class to Reagan and the GOP, and conveniently forget “Welfare Queens” and “Young bucks buying T-bone steaks with food stamps”. And they all can’t or won’t deal with the fact that the Republican electorate loves Trump like they’ve loved no other GOP President, because it was never about small government, fiscal responsibility, low taxes, responsible regulation, and encouraging entrepreneurship.

It’s race. It’s always been race.

I’m less kind. I don’t think there’s a delusion.

They want to eat their respectability cake, and have their crazy fucking base, *and* not be responsible for that base’s behavior, too.

What we’re seeing is individuals engaged in self-preservation strategies. The milquetoast politicians are getting away from the blast radius—but only after get their corporate sponsor’s needs met—the pundits are preparing to blame this on the Democrats, and the lobbyists are frantically shoveling anything on the docket they think they can pull off.

And when this mess caves in, they’re going to play like they had nothing to do with it, and go back to weaponizing moral panic and the wingnut demimonde.

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Bubblehead II  May 2, 2018 • 8:42:25am

Heads up Lizards.

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Weaselone  May 2, 2018 • 8:43:29am

re: #310 Weaselone

Also, there are only 3 core policies for Republicans
1. Lower taxes on rich people
2. Deregulate so that rich people can shit on everyone else with impunity
3. Funnel government money to rich people

Those policies don’t have the appeal to attract a majority, so the job of people like Cheri was to create other policies that didn’t impact the top three that would get people to vote Republican. So we get things like the war on Christmas, the crusade against abortion and gay people, racist foghorns, immigrant bashing and ebola hysteria.

Of course, all this has served to make the Republican base a bunch of paranoid, bigoted, rage addicts living in a hermetically sealed bubble of bullshit. The end result is that something like 85% of Republicans are still Trump supporters who just parrot back the stuff about Republicans being about responsible, small government like some sort of catechism regardless of it being true. Cheri and her ilk made this mess.

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dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 8:43:56am

re: #321 Jay C

Was it just an “opinion letter”? Or was Dr. Bornstein’s glowing encomium to The Donald’s splendid health meant to be taken* as some sort of objective assessment as to the then-candidate’s actual physical condition? As, similarly, VADM Ronny Jackson’s more-recent piece of what is increasingly likely to have been medical fiction?

*”taken” in the sense of “bullshit palmed off on a gullible public as objective reality”: i.e. the Trump Administration in a nutshell.

well sure

‘doctors note’ implies “why i was out of school yesterday”

this was a licensed, professional’s declaration of fact after review ie a medical opinion

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dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 8:45:31am

re: #323 ObserverArt

Didn’t the doc say Trump wrote the letter? It sounds more like the Doc was just taking dictation, threw is a couple numbers and signed his name.

I kind of wonder if they didn’t pressure the doc to “write” the letter in the same manner they bulled their way into his office to take Trump’s records.

It’s all very strange…as it has been when we first saw the letter and images of the Doctor. Strange as in everything we are learning about The Great Trump.

that’s what we know now
back then, it was meant to be taken by the public as the doctors professional medical assessement of the patient

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2018 • 8:46:17am

re: #322 dangerman

they’ve been booted out of their “home”
they’re looking for a new one
the first step is to redecorate

All of the Right makes the same mistake of seeing the Democratic Party as party composed of white men, like the GOP, that panders to women, minorities, and LGBT folks for votes. They don’t see that the Party is COMPOSED OF women, minorities, and LGBT folks - and some white men - and that the reason those groups are now Democrats is that we take them and their concerns seriously.

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Belafon  May 2, 2018 • 8:48:55am

re: #329 Blind Frog Belly White

All of the Right makes the same mistake of seeing the Democratic Party as party composed of white men, like the GOP, that panders to women, minorities, and LGBT folks for votes. They don’t see that the Party is COMPOSED OF women, minorities, and LGBT folks - and some white men - and that the reason those groups are now Democrats is that we take them and their concerns seriously.

My son was telling me about his math teacher, who seems like an OK guy, who voted for Trump but now regrets it. I asked my son, if he’s feeling brave, to ask how much he regrets it, and ask who he’s planning on voting for this fall (I’m in Texas) and who he will vote for in 2020.

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BeachDem  May 2, 2018 • 8:49:46am

re: #322 dangerman

they’ve been booted out of their “home”
they’re looking for a new one
the first step is to redecorate

It’s the same way I always described Bernie—he’s the guy you invite over for dinner and after cocktails, he decides to rip up your carpet because he’s sure that hardwood floors are much better.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2018 • 8:50:58am
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b.d. (Be Best)  May 2, 2018 • 8:51:12am

TV Ratings: ‘Roseanne’ Sheds 23 Percent, Loses Tuesday to ‘NCIS’

ABC’s rebooted comedy cedes the viewership title for the first time Tuesday, spilling another 3 million viewers.

hollywoodreporter.com

But…but….but….I was told…..trump…..but….but…but….

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2018 • 8:51:14am

re: #328 dangerman

that’s what we know now
back then, it was meant to be taken by the public as the doctors professional medical assessement of the patient

Oh yeah, that is how it was sold, there is no doubt.

But even back then a lot of people looked at it like WTF is this???

You could find a lot of those comments right here at LGF.

And keep in mind, a whole heck of a lot of people have questioned everything Trump since he announced his run. That is because many followed him his entire career and knew he is a huge bullshitter. Trump = Bullshit.

I guess too many people are finding that out now.

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dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 8:52:47am

re: #329 Blind Frog Belly White

All of the Right makes the same mistake of seeing the Democratic Party as party composed of white men, like the GOP, that panders to women, minorities, and LGBT folks for votes. They don’t see that the Party is COMPOSED OF women, minorities, and LGBT folks - and some white men - and that the reason those groups are now Democrats is that we take them and their concerns seriously.

that’s the meat of who we are as a party

im guessing these folks are trying to do what bernie’s been trying
make inroads to influence and take over an existing party rather than build their own
bernie is trying to pull it left
they are trying to pull it right

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lawhawk  May 2, 2018 • 8:57:55am

re: #333 b.d. (Perfect Smokey Eye)

TV Ratings: ‘Roseanne’ Sheds 23 Percent, Loses Tuesday to ‘NCIS’

ABC’s rebooted comedy cedes the viewership title for the first time Tuesday, spilling another 3 million viewers.

hollywoodreporter.com

But…but….but….I was told…..trump…..but….but…but….

Well, it’s losing to NCIS, which has been leading that night and timeslot for… what seems like decades.

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Eventual Carrion  May 2, 2018 • 8:58:53am

re: #332 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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They can see it after the audit investigation is finished.

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Dr Lizardo  May 2, 2018 • 8:58:53am

re: #333 b.d. (Perfect Smokey Eye)

TV Ratings: ‘Roseanne’ Sheds 23 Percent, Loses Tuesday to ‘NCIS’

ABC’s rebooted comedy cedes the viewership title for the first time Tuesday, spilling another 3 million viewers.

hollywoodreporter.com

But…but….but….I was told…..trump…..but….but…but….

Wasn’t the Roseanne reboot already picked up for a second season? I could swear I read that.

Oops.

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Mike Lamb  May 2, 2018 • 8:59:00am

re: #332 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Gee, Fuckface, the last set of documents that was sent over from the DOJ leaked within 30 minutes. I wonder why the DOJ might have some reservations.

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dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 8:59:31am

re: #334 ObserverArt

Oh yeah, that is how it was sold, there is no doubt.

But even back then a lot of people looked at it like WTF is this???

You could find a lot of those comments right here at LGF.

And keep in mind, a whole heck of a lot of people have questioned everything Trump since he announced his run. That is because many followed him his entire career and knew he is a huge bullshitter. Trump = Bullshit.

I guess too many people are finding that out now.

exactly so
a lot of people questioned it. unfortunately supposition isnt proof and the doctor was rock solid back then taking total ownership. no matter how ludicrous it looked.

couple that with way too many incurious (or gullible) people

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 2, 2018 • 8:59:40am

re: #335 dangerman

that’s the meat of who we are as a party

im guessing these folks are trying to do what bernie’s been trying
make inroads to influence and take over an existing party rather than build their own
bernie is trying to pull it left
they are trying to pull it right

For certain values of “left”. What Bernie doesn’t realize is that this is not Russia in 1905. The Dictatorship of the Proletariat is of no interest to most Americans. The true left in this country is all about justice, equal rights, and opportunities for the “special interest groups” he’s determined not to talk about because they distract from his nineteen-aughts class warfare.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 2, 2018 • 9:00:16am

re: #336 lawhawk

Well, it’s losing to NCIS, which has been leading that night and timeslot for… what seems like decades.

JFC—is that still on?

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JordanRules  May 2, 2018 • 9:01:05am

re: #338 Dr Lizardo

Wasn’t the Roseanne reboot already picked up for a second season? I could swear I read that.

Oops.

Yes it was.

re: #336 lawhawk

Well, it’s losing to NCIS, which has been leading that night and timeslot for… what seems like decades.

This. They may shuffle it around, but I’m sure they anticipated a drop.

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dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 9:01:17am

re: #341 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

For certain values of “left”. What Bernie doesn’t realize is that this is not Russia in 1905. The Dictatorship of the Proletariat is of no interest to most Americans. The true left in this country is all about justice, equal rights, and opportunities for the “special interest groups” he’s determined not to talk about because they distract from his nineteen-aughts class warfare.

yes indeed
sometimes i fall into the shorthand trap too much

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Skip Intro  May 2, 2018 • 9:02:44am

re: #307 Colère Tueur de Lapin

That’s not a joke. A true educator who cared about students (especially one with behavioural disabilities) would never even think that, let alone say it outloud. The comment (IMHO) exposed her true racist feelings about a child .

Sounds like she wants the kid to be shot. That’s the normal police response to an “armed” black person.

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Skip Intro  May 2, 2018 • 9:04:06am

re: #327 dangerman

well sure

‘doctors note’ implies “why i was out of school yesterday”

this was a licensed, professional’s declaration of fact after review ie a medical opinion

And he should lose his license for signing it.

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Dr Lizardo  May 2, 2018 • 9:04:16am

re: #343 JordanRules

Maybe it was just a novelty factor that drew the ratings; now that the novelty is wearing off, it’ll settle into a target range and if ratings don’t start picking up by next season, it’ll probably get cancelled.

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2018 • 9:04:23am

re: #340 dangerman

exactly so
a lot of people questioned it. unfortunately supposition isnt proof and the doctor was rock solid back then taking total ownership. no matter how ludicrous it looked.

couple that with way too many incurious (or gullible) people

The doc got some media face time. He got to ride the Trump wave for a bit like so many. So, yeah he was all in.

I wonder, did the doc think it was all a lark and knowing Trump figure there was no way he would ever get elected?

Too many people took that bet…both sides…all over this country.

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Skip Intro  May 2, 2018 • 9:04:38am

re: #338 Dr Lizardo

Wasn’t the Roseanne reboot already picked up for a second season? I could swear I read that.

Oops.

IT was. Oops indeed.

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Belafon  May 2, 2018 • 9:06:34am

re: #333 b.d. (Perfect Smokey Eye)

TV Ratings: ‘Roseanne’ Sheds 23 Percent, Loses Tuesday to ‘NCIS’

ABC’s rebooted comedy cedes the viewership title for the first time Tuesday, spilling another 3 million viewers.

hollywoodreporter.com

But…but….but….I was told…..trump…..but….but…but….

Some of that is because the thrill of sticking it to liberals is gone. But I think part of that may be some of the content. I caught part of one of the episodes the other day that I thought was interesting. One of her grandsons likes women’s clothing because they “have more pop” according to him. When she asked him if he identified as a boy or girl, he said boy so quickly she said “Well, that was fast.” After talking to him, she went to his new school, and told the kids in the class that, while he liked wearing women’s clothes, she just knew there wasn’t going to be any problems because, as she put it, she’s a witch. I’m imagining some of the people tuning in having trouble fitting that story into their worldview.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 9:06:55am

Agh frustrated by people trying to turn what happened to that girl in Utah as an example of the left as a whole. Every left I’ve talked thinks how she was treated was awful and that she rocked that dress.

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Skip Intro  May 2, 2018 • 9:07:36am

BTW, the new Win 10 update takes hours to download and install. Worked on one machine, failed horribly on another.

Might want to wait a bit before doing it.

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BeachDem  May 2, 2018 • 9:07:47am

re: #328 dangerman

that’s what we know now
back then, it was meant to be taken by the public as the doctors professional medical assessement of the patient

And back in the salad days of 2016, although the media raised “concerns” about the letter:

And now, given Bornstein’s comments suggesting his own letter was written under some duress  — or at least, less than ideal circumstances — you can expect rising demands for a do-over, and perhaps more information about Trump’s health.

Yeah, except that didn’t really happen, did it.

…But given Bornstein’s comments Friday night, it’s clear we don’t have a particularly serious evaluation of what condition Trump’s health is in. And it seems logical that a guy whose campaign is raising questions and suggestions about Clinton’s health would want to erase any doubt about his own.

washingtonpost.com

And then they said, “SQUIRREL” and moved on to other pressing matters, like a fully annotated copy of Clinton’s doctor’s letter because:

Since Hillary Clinton fell ill and collapsed at a 9/11 memorial service on Sunday, both presidential campaigns have come under even greater pressure to be more forthcoming about their medical records.

washingtonpost.com
Except there was never pressure on the yam about being
more forthcoming about his medical records.

And here we are…

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 9:11:21am

re: #341 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

For certain values of “left”. What Bernie doesn’t realize is that this is not Russia in 1905. The Dictatorship of the Proletariat is of no interest to most Americans. The true left in this country is all about justice, equal rights, and opportunities for the “special interest groups” he’s determined not to talk about because they distract from his nineteen-aughts class warfare.

Bernie because he’s been in Vermont too damn long doesn’t get that racial issues aren’t a “distraction”, they’re a very real issue. Black people have been targeted by authorities regardless of their socio-economic status just as Hispanics have been presumed to be illegal the same. And Muslims have been harassed and treated like terrorists regardless. We can fix the income gap but that’s not the main problem in our society. Our main problem is too many whites and yes Bernie many of them are in the working class are threatened by those who don’t look like them. No amount of universal health care or education is going to change that. Focus on the first and then you do the later.

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Skip Intro  May 2, 2018 • 9:11:37am

re: #350 Belafon

Some of that is because the thrill of sticking it to liberals is gone. But I think part of that may be some of the content. I caught part of one of the episodes the other day that I thought was interesting. One of her grandsons likes women’s clothing because they “have more pop” according to him. When she asked him if he identified as a boy or girl, he said boy so quickly she said “Well, that was fast.” After talking to him, she went to his new school, and told the kids in the class that, while he liked wearing women’s clothes, she just knew there wasn’t going to be any problems because, as she put it, she’s a witch. I’m imagining some of the people tuning in having trouble fitting that story into their worldview.

That’s nothing compared to Billions’ Asia Kate Dillion. I imagine Trumperoids have shot their tvs after seeing them (her term for herself).

Great show.

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Belafon  May 2, 2018 • 9:13:01am

re: #355 Skip Intro

That’s nothing compared to Billions’ Asia Kate Dillion. I imagine Trumperoids have shot their tvs after seeing them (her term for herself).

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Great show.

I suspect most Roseanne viewers aren’t watching Billions, and I bet most of them don’t know it exists.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 2, 2018 • 9:13:18am

re: #348 ObserverArt

The doc got some media face time. He got to ride the Trump wave for a bit like so many. So, yeah he was all in.

I wonder, did the doc think it was all a lark and knowing Trump figure there was no way he would ever get elected?

Too many people took that bet…both sides…all over this country.

Considering the razor-thin margins some of these electoral catastrophes were enabled by, if even a small number of people learned not to play with fire like that from this election, maybe…nah, it’ll never have been worth it.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2018 • 9:13:22am

re: #336 lawhawk

Well, it’s losing to NCIS, which has been leading that night and timeslot for… what seems like decades.

I used to like NCIS but I stopped watching a couple of years ago after the federal agents had a shootout with the bad guys IN A CROWDED PARK. The “good guys with guns” pushed random civilians to the ground so they would be “safe.”

Now I know where these NRA gun fuckers get their ideas from.

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jeffreyw  May 2, 2018 • 9:14:39am

re: #295 retired cynic

My raccoons get right out there in the broad daylight and shake the poles, since I have everything high enough they can’t get there. I bang on the window, and they look up and say, “Whaddayawant?” They went out on a SMALL limb and hauled up the oriole feeder and tanked up on sugar water.

I guess I’m going to have to get a dog, as the three old house cats and the two feral cats aren’t proving much of a preventative.

My dog boy will not let a raccoon come near during the day, and we take it in at night. They do browse the spilled seeds after dark. We let Gabe out to pee and he ended up treeing a ‘coon. We had a hard time calling him back in.

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2018 • 9:15:08am

re: #341 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

For certain values of “left”. What Bernie doesn’t realize is that this is not Russia in 1905. The Dictatorship of the Proletariat is of no interest to most Americans. The true left in this country is all about justice, equal rights, and opportunities for the “special interest groups” he’s determined not to talk about because they distract from his nineteen-aughts class warfare.

Your post reminded me of a Photoshop I did of Bernie. I can’t remember what caused me to put the comments in it that I did. but it seemed to have something to do with Republicans selling Bernie as a Russian style socialist.

I was only joking then. Hmmm.

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BeachDem  May 2, 2018 • 9:16:41am

re: #343 JordanRules

Yes it was.

This. They may shuffle it around, but I’m sure they anticipated a drop.

And, although NCIS had higher total viewership (12.12M to 10.31M) Roseanne was still way ahead in the demo 18-49 rating/share (2.5/11 to 1.2/5). I’m shocked (and dismayed) that the show is getting that kind of young viewership.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 9:17:50am

BTW I’ve found that my youngest brother falls into Bernie’s way of thinking that all is economics related and my other brother like me sees the more complex picture. Interestingly, both supported Bernie in the primary. The latter one interestingly is more closer to Bernie ideologically than the other but he’s also much more culturally sensitive than the other one. And yep he’s the father of my niece and the one who makes friends with locals in his international trips.

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Skip Intro  May 2, 2018 • 9:17:57am

Why do we need a chaplain in Congress, anyway?

Great fucking question.

washingtonpost.com

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b.d. (Be Best)  May 2, 2018 • 9:19:46am

re: #343 JordanRules

Yes it was.

This. They may shuffle it around, but I’m sure they anticipated a drop.

FAKE RATINGS!

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 9:20:15am

re: #363 Skip Intro

Why do we need a chaplain in Congress, anyway?

Great fucking question.

washingtonpost.com

It does seem quite outdated IMO. I get giving military men and women chaplains but I don’t think Congress needs one. A counselor of some kind sure.

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lawhawk  May 2, 2018 • 9:22:16am
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JordanRules  May 2, 2018 • 9:22:34am
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jaunte  May 2, 2018 • 9:23:18am
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jaunte  May 2, 2018 • 9:23:43am

The Integrity-Free Presidency

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Jay C  May 2, 2018 • 9:24:00am

re: #363 Skip Intro

Why do we need a chaplain in Congress, anyway?

Great fucking question.

washingtonpost.com

From the linked WaPo (FY paywall) opinion piece:

In today’s religiously diverse America, government-sponsored, taxpayer-funded chaplains don’t unify; they often divide and perpetuate (one version of) Christian dominance in American religious life.

Definitely regarded (by a non-trivial segment of the electorate) as a feature, not a bug…

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lawhawk  May 2, 2018 • 9:24:03am
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 9:24:39am

re: #367 JordanRules

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Indeed. I don’t want to live in a society has to raise money so their mom or dad can live a healthy life. I want to live in a society where we use our means to help these people and that 11 year old can enjoy being 11. I’d still gladly by a cup from her but your’e absolutely right about these storeis.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 2, 2018 • 9:24:54am

re: #367 JordanRules

The rightwingers see that failure of society as great proof that (even) children can capitalist to save a family member. So, what’s wrong?

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dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 9:28:55am

re: #357 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Considering the razor-thin margins some of these electoral catastrophes were enabled by, if even a small number of people learned not to play with fire like that from this election, maybe…nah, it’ll never have been worth it.

yes - itll never be worth it
and
when you’re already stuck with that truckload of lemons….

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2018 • 9:29:26am

LOLWUT

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jaunte  May 2, 2018 • 9:29:43am
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BeachDem  May 2, 2018 • 9:29:53am

re: #365 HappyWarrior

It does seem quite outdated IMO. I get giving military men and women chaplains but I don’t think Congress needs one. A counselor of some kind sure.

Why a counselor of some kind? They barely work anyway:

Based on the 2018 calendar released by both chambers at the end of last year, members of the Senate are planning seven fewer days in session this year than in 2017, while members of the House are planning for 24 fewer days in session. Ahead of Election Day on Nov. 6, the House will be off for three full weeks and the Senate will be off for two.

If they need a counselor, let them go to one on their own fucking time.

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Belafon  May 2, 2018 • 9:30:11am

re: #375 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWUT

Then how did he make it on TV?

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Jay C  May 2, 2018 • 9:31:01am

re: #373 Colère Tueur de Lapin

The rightwingers see that failure of society as great proof that (even) children can capitalist to save a family member. So, what’s wrong?

No sarc tags?
For one thing, if Mama Martinez needs serious “kidney and pancreas treatment”, $1,100 is likely to be less than a drop-in-the-bucket as far as the overall cost of any significant treatment regimen is concerned. A nice story to be sure, but yeah: the takeaway from it should be “failure of the system” not “heartwarming junior entrepreneurship”. But probably won’t be.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2018 • 9:32:08am

THESE THINGS ARE NOT THE SAME.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 2, 2018 • 9:32:16am

re: #358 The Vicious Babushka

I used to like NCIS but I stopped watching a couple of years ago after the federal agents had a shootout with the bad guys IN A CROWDED PARK. The “good guys with guns” pushed random civilians to the ground so they would be “safe.”

Now I know where these NRA gun fuckers get their ideas from.

Let’s not blame NCIS (which I haven’t watched in years). There are a host of action films and other TV series that include similar shootouts. It’s a staple of these programs

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dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 9:32:41am

re: #372 HappyWarrior

Indeed. I don’t want to live in a society has to raise money so their mom or dad can live a healthy life. I want to live in a society where we use our means to help these people and that 11 year old can enjoy being 11. I’d still gladly by a cup from her but your’e absolutely right about these storeis.

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jaunte  May 2, 2018 • 9:32:44am

re: #380 The Vicious Babushka

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Weaselone  May 2, 2018 • 9:33:09am

re: #365 HappyWarrior

It does seem quite outdated IMO. I get giving military men and women chaplains but I don’t think Congress needs one. A counselor of some kind sure.

Should be a comedian and their job is to roast the congress at the start and end of the day.

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dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 9:34:16am

re: #376 jaunte

Two black men arrested for sitting at a Philadelphia Starbucks without ordering anything have settled with the city for a symbolic $1 each and a promise from officials to set up a $200,000 program for young entrepreneurs

that’s Philly.

i wonder what about starbucks?

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jaunte  May 2, 2018 • 9:34:32am

Conservatives just can’t give up the idea of using someone else’s body for their own purposes.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2018 • 9:34:55am

re: #383 jaunte

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Ross Douchehate needs to be sacked.

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Dr Lizardo  May 2, 2018 • 9:34:58am

re: #375 The Vicious Babushka

More intellectual flatulence from Prager. It must be a day ending in “-day”.

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dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 9:37:03am

gotta do some work

more later

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jaunte  May 2, 2018 • 9:38:18am
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ObserverArt  May 2, 2018 • 9:38:27am

re: #376 jaunte

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Class move by them. I hope they keep on the city to hold to the deal.

I bet they will not be as kind to Starbucks.

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retired cynic  May 2, 2018 • 9:38:31am

Two really neat links from This Is Colossal today.

The first is about someone who has gone to the effort of taking vintage films, cleaning them up, regulating the speed, and adding sound. Wonderful!

thisiscolossal.com

The second is about a Japanese photographer who has taken some spectacular photos of those special picturesque mountains in China. Beautiful!

thisiscolossal.com

Edited to replace a bad link.

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retired cynic  May 2, 2018 • 9:39:32am

Second link fixed.

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JordanRules  May 2, 2018 • 9:41:12am

re: #379 Jay C

Pretty sure it’s untagged snark. But good rebuttal nonetheless.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 9:41:13am

re: #375 The Vicious Babushka

LOLWUT

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Yeah because the Jews ran the Spanish monarchy during the Inquistion and conservatives are being tortured. Oh what’s that Dennis? You’re just being mocked by comedians? Really fuck you dude, you don’t know what real oppression is.

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2018 • 9:41:18am

re: #380 The Vicious Babushka

THESE THINGS ARE NOT THE SAME.

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I’m not clicking on that…gotta save page views for other NYTimes stuff, though I wonder why anymore.

Can anyone reveal who wrote that opinion?

Choice appears to be an extreme. Who knew?

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 9:42:10am

re: #380 The Vicious Babushka

THESE THINGS ARE NOT THE SAME.

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Maybe we don’t like having someone advocating executing women for something that’s you know a legal procedure throughout the Western world but go ahead act like being pro-choice is the same thing as what Williamson advocaetd and you’re the fucking problem.

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gocart mozart  May 2, 2018 • 9:42:21am
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Belafon  May 2, 2018 • 9:42:33am

re: #385 dangerman

that’s Philly.

i wonder what about starbucks?

They fired the manager and are setting up training.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 9:43:18am

re: #388 Dr Lizardo

More intellectual flatulence from Prager. It must be a day ending in “-day”.

I was really saddened to see that one of my friends from growing up “likes” him on FB. We haven’t talked in years. It’s frustrating because I know him to be an intelligent guy.

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JordanRules  May 2, 2018 • 9:43:39am
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CleverToad  May 2, 2018 • 9:44:10am

re: #329 Blind Frog Belly White

All of the Right makes the same mistake of seeing the Democratic Party as party composed of white men, like the GOP, that panders to women, minorities, and LGBT folks for votes. They don’t see that the Party is COMPOSED OF women, minorities, and LGBT folks - and some white men - and that the reason those groups are now Democrats is that we take are them and their take our concerns seriously.

Fixed that for me (checks off the ‘women’ box)

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 2, 2018 • 9:44:42am

re: #379 Jay C

No sarc tags?
For one thing, if Mama Martinez needs serious “kidney and pancreas treatment”, $1,100 is likely to be less than a drop-in-the-bucket as far as the overall cost of any significant treatment regimen is concerned. A nice story to be sure, but yeah: the takeaway from it should be “failure of the system” not “heartwarming junior entrepreneurship”. But probably won’t be.

I tend not to sarc tag. Maybe I should have in this situation. It’s a story of the failure of society. As you noted, the money that the child made from selling lemonade is not even a drop in the bucket for the future medical costs.

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retired cynic  May 2, 2018 • 9:44:50am

re: #251 jeffreyw

Our flock hasn’t arrived yet, a few flit about but minutes go by without a feeder visit. When they get going we will fill 5 or 6 feeders daily.

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I am about 80 minutes north of you, and I had one male show up. Put out the feeders, but haven’t seen any more yet. Of course…. I am sitting in here at the desk, not looking at the feeders….

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 9:45:11am

Being a conservative in modern America is like blank in dictatorship here. I’m gonna let you finish but there were no Jews in positions of power or authority in Nazi Germany, the Inquisition, etc. Your party has the majority in Congress, has the WH, and controls a lot of the courts too but go ahead and continue to equate comedians mocking you to tyranny. Oh and you can stop calling us snowflake.

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2018 • 9:45:25am

re: #383 jaunte

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White men really are a scared lot these days are they not?

I’m a white male so I can say this: what a bunch of assholes! You’re sacred of women, people of color, sharing the world and its riches with others. Everything.

You are the problem with this world! Get the fuck over yourselves.

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meteor  May 2, 2018 • 9:45:34am
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ObserverArt  May 2, 2018 • 9:48:00am

re: #392 retired cynic

Two really neat links from This Is Colossal today.

The first is about someone who has gone to the effort of taking vintage films, cleaning them up, regulating the speed, and adding sound. Wonderful!

thisiscolossal.com

The second is about a Japanese photographer who has taken some spectacular photos of those special picturesque mountains in China. Beautiful!

thisiscolossal.com

Edited to replace a bad link.

Wow, those Chinese mountain images are beautiful. They look like the work of artists.

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JordanRules  May 2, 2018 • 9:48:02am

re: #399 Belafon

They fired the manager and are setting up training.

What will their settlement with the victims look like I wonder

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2018 • 9:48:28am

re: #396 ObserverArt

I’ not clicking on that…gotta save page views for other NYTimes stuff, though I wonder why anymore.

Can anyone reveal who wrote that opinion?

Choice appears to be an extreme. Who knew?

It was Douchehate

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 9:48:54am

re: #406 ObserverArt

White men really are a scared lot these days are they not?

I’m a white male so I can say this: what a bunch of assholes! You’re sacred of women, people of color, sharing the world and its riches with others. Everything.

You are the problem with this world! Get the fuck over yourselves.

You know what man, as a white guy, I embrace this change. I really genuinely enjoy meeting someone with a different background than me. My boss is a man who came of age in the Iranian Revolution. I’ve never talked about that era with him but it definitely gives him a different perspective on life than my cousins who around his same age who grew up here in the US. Multiculturalism? Yes, sign me. Sign me up for new dishes of food. New music. New fashions. And new ways of seeing the world.

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goddamnedfrank  May 2, 2018 • 9:49:36am
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Weaselone  May 2, 2018 • 9:49:37am

re: #401 JordanRules

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His responses are full of weapons grade derp.

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JordanRules  May 2, 2018 • 9:49:46am
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ObserverArt  May 2, 2018 • 9:50:56am

re: #399 Belafon

They fired the manager and are setting up training.

Yeah, but what is their settlement with the two guys they harassed? I bet there is some negotiating going on…or there should be.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2018 • 9:51:18am

AND ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST

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JordanRules  May 2, 2018 • 9:51:31am

Clippy!!

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 9:52:26am

re: #414 JordanRules

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I think WW being our resident bike nut has talked about him before. Cool stuff. I own a Homestead Grays baseball hat and Pittsburgh Crawfords shirt. I haven’t gotten anyone to ask about it unfortunately but if they do, I’ll point out Satchel Paige, Josh Gibson, and all those guys who could have been contemporaries of Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, Williams, and others if not for their skin color. Institutional racism denied us of so many great talents.

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jaunte  May 2, 2018 • 9:52:50am

re: #416 The Vicious Babushka

Trump is the bad example in every chapter of every textbook on management.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 9:52:52am

re: #416 The Vicious Babushka

AND ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST

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Do you think the Tigers will use him? //

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jaunte  May 2, 2018 • 9:53:34am

Is Kragar here?

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 9:53:35am

re: #417 JordanRules

Clippy!!

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“Are you sure you want to use what a party calls itself as evidence that a party is that ideology and also use what a party was 150 years ago as to what it is now?”

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JordanRules  May 2, 2018 • 9:55:08am

re: #416 The Vicious Babushka

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Jay C  May 2, 2018 • 9:56:13am

re: #416 The Vicious Babushka

AND ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST

So: did Trump hire a “Clinton impeachment lawyer” because:
A) He wants to avoid a similar process, or
B) He wants to manage a similar process????

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The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2018 • 9:56:21am

re: #420 HappyWarrior

Do you think the Tigers will use him? //

How sharp are his spikes?

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JordanRules  May 2, 2018 • 9:57:03am
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Dave In Austin  May 2, 2018 • 9:57:37am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 2, 2018 • 9:57:57am

re: #394 JordanRules

Pretty sure it’s untagged snark. But good rebuttal nonetheless.

Both of your statements are true.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 9:58:20am

re: #425 The Vicious Babushka

How sharp are his spikes?

None of the lawyers I work with wear spikes on their loafers but Ty could be different.

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retired cynic  May 2, 2018 • 9:58:40am

re: #302 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Raccoons vs. cats is a very bad idea.

Mine have been getting along, even eating together, for many years. Now, had no kittens, and I imagine that when the feral female (who is no doubt pregnant, but I can’t catch her) has hers, there will be a problem. I can’t help if I can’t catch her.

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lawhawk  May 2, 2018 • 9:59:15am

re: #401 JordanRules

Yup.

That’s it in a nutshell.

Israeli intel gathered docs that corroborate what the IAEA knew about Iran’s nuclear plan back in 2011. The JCPOA blocks and stops the Iranian nuclear weapons program, installed tight inspections and checks to prevent diverting nuclear materials into a nuclear weapons program.

Bibi and then Trump mischaracterize what the Mossad found as though it somehow proves Iran is currently up to no good.

Right wingers in both Israel and US demand that the JCPOA get ripped up because they don’t know how JCPOA operates and prevents Iran from doing the very thing they were trying to do for years before JCPOA came into effect.

Yeah, that’s the whole thing in a nutshell.

Combine that with how Trump’s giving North Korea everything Jong Un wanted with a face to face meeting without giving up its nuclear program - because North Korea demonstrated that they have nuclear weapons capable of hitting the US (both the missiles and nuclear tech) - other countries will realize the folly of entering into a disarmament deal and instead seek proliferation to get parity with the US or other nuclear powers.

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jaunte  May 2, 2018 • 10:00:07am
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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 10:01:15am

re: #432 jaunte

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Not going to end well for Trumpy.

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jaunte  May 2, 2018 • 10:02:33am

Going down with the ship afire, surrounded by a loyal bodyguard of the least-smart cronies.

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Dr Lizardo  May 2, 2018 • 10:03:07am

re: #424 Jay C

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So: did Trump hire a “Clinton impeachment lawyer” because:
A) He wants to avoid a similar process, or
B) He wants to manage a similar process????

Because he reckons that impeachment is an increasingly distinct possibility.

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KGxvi  May 2, 2018 • 10:03:12am

re: #424 Jay C

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So: did Trump hire a “Clinton impeachment lawyer” because:
A) He wants to avoid a similar process, or
B) He wants to manage a similar process????

Per wikipedia, Flood has handled a lot of these sort of high profile cases:

Flood advised President Bill Clinton during his impeachment process. Flood’s law firm also represented Hillary Clinton on matters relating to the Clinton email controversy.

Flood represented Dick Cheney in response to Wilson v. Cheney, a civil lawsuit filed by Valerie Plame for his alleged role in the Plame affair.

Flood advised Bob McDonnell on his response to the corruption investigation into his activities. Flood was retained by Cameron International to defend them after the Deepwater Horizon oil spill.

So my guess to answer your question would be: C) both A and B.

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KGxvi  May 2, 2018 • 10:04:31am

re: #432 jaunte

There was speculation last night on MSNBC that Dowd left because one of the categories of questions involved dangled pardons, and that would have been Dowd that did that, if it was done (narrator: oh, it was done, it most definitely was)

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Weaselone  May 2, 2018 • 10:05:58am

So how is the MAGA conspiracy crew dealing with the fact the Trump hired Hillary’s Emailghazi lawyer?

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JordanRules  May 2, 2018 • 10:06:31am
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KGxvi  May 2, 2018 • 10:07:57am

re: #431 lawhawk

Right wingers in both Israel and US AND IN IRAN demand that the JCPOA get ripped up because they don’t know how JCPOA operates and prevents Iran from doing the very thing they were trying to do for years before JCPOA came into effect.

Because we really shouldn’t overlook the fact that all of the worst people want the treaty torn up.

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lawhawk  May 2, 2018 • 10:08:47am
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Sir John Barron  May 2, 2018 • 10:09:15am

re: #438 Weaselone

So how is the MAGA conspiracy crew dealing with the fact the Trump hired Hillary’s Emailghazi lawyer?

1.Fake news
2. so what?
3.Trump playing 189th degree chess while you’re playing checkers
4.Witch hunt anyway

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JordanRules  May 2, 2018 • 10:09:33am

I get why the Clinton reference but this more recent history is interesting.

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retired cynic  May 2, 2018 • 10:11:15am

re: #352 Skip Intro

BTW, the new Win 10 update takes hours to download and install. Worked on one machine, failed horribly on another.

Might want to wait a bit before doing it.

I HATE WINDOWS! sorry … I have to use it in Parallels for some software. I’m sticking with 7 as long as I can get by with it!

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Sir John Barron  May 2, 2018 • 10:11:23am

re: #426 JordanRules

The Failing New York Times purposely wrote a false story stating that I am unhappy with my legal team on the Russia case and am going to add another lawyer to help out. Wrong. I am VERY happy with my lawyers, John Dowd, Ty Cobb this guy and that guy and Jay Sekulow. They are doing a great job and…..

— Donald J. Trump

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KGxvi  May 2, 2018 • 10:11:37am

re: #429 HappyWarrior

None of the lawyers I work with wear spikes on their loafers but Ty could be different.

Well, if he’s anything like his namesake:

The base paths belonged to me, the runner. The rules gave me the right. I always went into a bag full speed, feet first. I had sharp spikes on my shoes. If the baseman stood where he had no business to be and got hurt, that was his fault.

Ty Cobb is arguably one of the greatest ballplayers of all time. He was also, undoubtedly an asshole of the highest order.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2018 • 10:11:47am
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JordanRules  May 2, 2018 • 10:12:16am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2018 • 10:12:41am

re: #447 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

With girls soon entering the ranks, the Boy Scouts of America will drop the word “boy” from their flagship program next year

do they give merit badges for learning secret gang hand signs?

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lawhawk  May 2, 2018 • 10:13:36am

re: #447 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Because the declining membership of boys entering the BSA means that they have to look wider - and consider girls as well.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 2, 2018 • 10:13:50am

re: #416 The Vicious Babushka

AND ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST

Dude needs to buy the convenient lawyer six-pack.

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sagehen  May 2, 2018 • 10:14:05am

re: #403 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I tend not to sarc tag. Maybe I should have in this situation. It’s a story of the failure of society. As you noted, the money that the child made from selling lemonade is not even a drop in the bucket for the future medical costs.

It’s enough to cover mom’s transportation from New Mexico (where the story is from) to Minnesota (where the Mayo Clinic is located).

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Sir John Barron  May 2, 2018 • 10:14:19am

re: #416 The Vicious Babushka

AND ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST

Hannity tonight: Join me as a I talk about the Democrat Russia scandal that no one else is talking about. Special guest Greg Jarrett of Fox News, which is a great network, believe me.

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2018 • 10:14:32am

re: #441 lawhawk

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So, let’s start a pool for how long from today’s announcement Flood stays with Trump before either getting booted or frustrated and quits after telling The Don The Truth.

I’m giving him three months. First week of August.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 2, 2018 • 10:15:32am

re: #451 The Ghost of a Flea

Dude needs to buy the convenient lawyer six-pack.

Lite or regular? He discards them so quickly it seems a waste to buy the regular lawyer version.

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KGxvi  May 2, 2018 • 10:16:13am

re: #443 JordanRules

I get why the Clinton reference but this more recent history is interesting.

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When you have a very specialized type of practice - and representing politicians in high profile cases is as specialized as you can get - you represent a lot of people from across the political spectrum.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2018 • 10:18:37am

I’m sorry (that you publicly noticed) I’m complete nutjob.
OK, I can still keep my job now, right?

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2018 • 10:19:20am

re: #444 retired cynic

I HATE WINDOWS! sorry … I have to use it in Parallels for some software. I’m sticking with 7 as long as I can get by with it!

I just got a new 10 machine two weeks ago. As soon as I started it up it had to update from it’s original setup and that took about 6 hours. I’m hoping that was the update that Skip Intro had to go through.

So far I like it. I needed the new system and way more RAM for the Adobe CC package. My old faithful 7 machine is now number 2 and Still running, but it could not handle the Adobe programs like it should and it was limited on how much RAM could be installed.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 10:20:06am

re: #440 KGxvi

Because we really shouldn’t overlook the fact that all of the worst people want the treaty torn up.

Yep that’s very true.

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JordanRules  May 2, 2018 • 10:20:45am
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Sir John Barron  May 2, 2018 • 10:21:23am

re: #457 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m sorry (that you publicly noticed) I’m complete nutjob.
OK, I can still keep my job now, right?

Back to the Swamp of Derp

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 10:21:44am

re: #446 KGxvi

Well, if he’s anything like his namesake:

Ty Cobb is arguably one of the greatest ballplayers of all time. He was also, undoubtedly an asshole of the highest order.

My Pap-Pap, Nana’s father was friends with Honus Wagner and probably played amateur ball with him in the Burgh. Cobb’s a legitimate top 10 of all time but man I love Honus and not just because of my famliy ties. He was a gentleman. Never heard a bad word about him in Larry Ritter’s Glory of Their Times.

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KGxvi  May 2, 2018 • 10:22:12am

re: #448 JordanRules

One of the reasons we have been “fighting” a “war” in Afghanistan for almost 17 years is because, as a nation, we gave up on nation building. We forgot the lesson of World War I. We left Germany after that first war, saddled with brutal treaty terms and ended up fighting the same war 20 years later. After World War II we invested in (West) Germany, in Italy, in Japan, and we haven’t had to fight a war there for 75 years.

We need to remember that fighting a war, dropping bombs, isn’t the end, it is merely the beginning. A war is a generational commitment - either a generation of dead young men, or a generation of diplomatic and economic aid to build a more peaceful world.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 2, 2018 • 10:22:35am

re: #455 Colère Tueur de Lapin

The limited-edition XTreme pack, obviously.

Only the best, ya know.

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b.d. (Be Best)  May 2, 2018 • 10:22:39am

He’s retiring at the end of the month. All of these guys quit coming to work but keep getting checks.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 10:22:56am

re: #448 JordanRules

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Yep, next year’s high school graduating class will include those like my brother who weren’t even 1 when 9/11 happened. This has been their world.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 10:23:21am

re: #465 b.d. (Perfect Smokey Eye)

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He’s retiring at the end of the month. All of these guys quit coming to work but keep getting checks.

Mr. Kidd right.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 2, 2018 • 10:24:44am

Honus Wagner: true gentleman or very, very good at hiding bodies.

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b.d. (Be Best)  May 2, 2018 • 10:24:58am

re: #467 HappyWarrior

Mr. Kidd right.

Him and Mr. Wint were the best

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ObserverArt  May 2, 2018 • 10:24:59am

re: #463 KGxvi

One of the reasons we have been “fighting” a “war” in Afghanistan for almost 17 years is because, as a nation, we gave up on nation building. We forgot the lesson of World War I. We left Germany after that first year, saddled with brutal treaty terms and ended up fighting the same war 20 years later. After World War II we invested in (West) Germany, in Italy, in Japan, and we haven’t had to fight a war there for 75 years.

We need to remember that fighting a war, dropping bombs, isn’t the end, it is merely the beginning. A war is a generational commitment - either a generation of dead young men, or a generation of diplomatic and economic aid to build a more peaceful world.

Can I add that it is also a very profitable business and that has as much to do with the 17 years as anything.

I think a former general that was a decent Republican president addressed that fear.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 2, 2018 • 10:25:25am

re: #463 KGxvi

We need to remember that fighting a war, dropping bombs, isn’t the end, it is merely the beginning. A war is a generational commitment - either a generation of dead young men, or a generation of diplomatic and economic aid to build a more peaceful world.

We as a a society lack the patience for multi-generational endeavors and the right loves to drop bombs for the sake of killing the other.

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b.d. (Be Best)  May 2, 2018 • 10:25:47am

re: #468 The Ghost of a Flea

Honus Wagner: true gentleman or very, very good at hiding bodies.

Good call but I think that Ted Williams’ frozen head should be Trump’s next lawyer.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2018 • 10:26:12am

re: #469 b.d. (Perfect Smokey Eye)

Him and Mr. Wint were the best

They didn’t hold a candle to Klump and Schlubb.
//

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KGxvi  May 2, 2018 • 10:26:57am

re: #470 ObserverArt

Can I add that it is also a very profitable business and that has as much to do with the 17 years as anything.

I think a former general that was a decent Republican president addressed that fear.

Rule of Acquisition 34: war is good for business
Rule of Acquisition 35: peace is good for business

There’s profit to be found in peace and nation building. But, I suppose, why change the business model?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 2, 2018 • 10:27:13am

Kitty Zens Out On His Very Own Yoga Mat

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JordanRules  May 2, 2018 • 10:27:43am

re: #463 KGxvi

One of the reasons we have been “fighting” a “war” in Afghanistan for almost 17 years is because, as a nation, we gave up on nation building. We forgot the lesson of World War I. We left Germany after that first year, saddled with brutal treaty terms and ended up fighting the same war 20 years later. After World War II we invested in (West) Germany, in Italy, in Japan, and we haven’t had to fight a war there for 75 years.

We need to remember that fighting a war, dropping bombs, isn’t the end, it is merely the beginning. A war is a generational commitment - either a generation of dead young men, or a generation of diplomatic and economic aid to build a more peaceful world.

But we’re even more exceptional now!! It has to work this time cause… America!
//

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2018 • 10:29:15am

Yikes.
My only similar experience was getting caught up in some loose rope while rappelling out of a Blackhawk in the middle of the night. Ended up hanging upside down, with my toes barely touching the underside of the aircraft as I slowly spun in circles.
Of course I was much luckier than those folks. The helicopter was able to slowly lower to the ground.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2018 • 10:37:29am

I was listening to Forum on KQED on the way to work. The guest was the author of a book on the 2016 election called ‘Bad Stories’, about the false narratives that allowed Trump to get elected.

There was a caller who identified as a Trump voter, who said basically that Trump got elected because the Left condescends to people like him who “never had a racist or misogynistic thought”, after the author said - correctly - that the most reliable indicator of voting for Trump was racial resentment.

I conclude there’s no way to win over or convince someone like that, who probably makes up about 1/2 of Trump’s support - people who don’t think they’re racists, but somehow are completely okay with racially discriminatory policies and racists like Trump as long as they had the plausible deniability of Trump not actually being on record calling black people N****rs.

The only thing we can hope for is that we can beat them and make them irrelevant. There’s no outreach that will reach them.

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JordanRules  May 2, 2018 • 10:37:30am
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retired cynic  May 2, 2018 • 10:38:01am

re: #458 ObserverArt

I just got a new 10 machine two weeks ago. As soon as I started it up it had to update from it’s original setup and that took about 6 hours. I’m hoping that was the update that Skip Intro had to go through.

So far I like it. I needed the new system and way more RAM for the Adobe CC package. My old faithful 7 machine is now number 2 and Still running, but it could not handle the Adobe programs like it should and it was limited on how much RAM could be installed.

Yep, Adobe CC is the big hog here, but I’m on Mac, High Sierra. That OS runs it the best of any I have had. I did upgrade my RAM to 12B, ‘though! Should have gone to 16, but muddling along anyway.

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freetoken  May 2, 2018 • 10:38:20am

We live in a pro-wrestling world…

WWE’s Glenn Jacobs, who plays the “Kane” character on WWE, won the Republican primary for mayor of Knox County Tennessee:

knoxnews.com

It’s so close I suppose there will be a recount.

Anyway, Jacobs is a “libertarian” who, since he wanted to be elected, had to run as a Republican. I don’t know if he’ll be any worse than the other Republicans (and the Democratic candidate has no chance to win in the general) who were running.

Still, if you look at his twitter, it’s full of the usual Trumpy stuff (minus perhaps the race-baiting). E.g.:

He’s another one of those claiming he won’t raise any taxes, etc.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2018 • 10:39:07am

re: #448 JordanRules

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 10:41:17am

re: #481 freetoken

We live in a pro-wrestling world…

WWE’s Glenn Jacobs, who plays the “Kane” character on WWE, won the Republican primary for mayor of Knox County Tennessee:

knoxnews.com

It’s so close I suppose there will be a recount.

Anyway, Jacobs is a “libertarian” who, since he wanted to be elected, had to run as a Republican. I don’t know if he’ll be any worse than the other Republicans (and the Democratic candidate has no chance to win in the general) who were running.

Still, if you look at his twitter, it’s full of the usual Trumpy stuff (minus perhaps the race-baiting). E.g.:

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He’s another one of those claiming he won’t raise any taxes, etc.

From what I understand, he’s a Von Mises type Libertarian, those usually are bad news.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 2, 2018 • 10:42:15am

re: #483 HappyWarrior

From what I understand, he’s a Von Mises type Libertarian, those usually are bad news.

You seem to have an extra word in your response.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 10:42:54am

re: #482 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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My Dad’s had this idea and I’m not completely sold on it but he has this idea for national service for two years after high school as a way of bringing people together from different walks of life. Jury’s still out for me on it since I don’t like the idea of mandating national service but I do like the spirit behind the idea. And calling him a stupid kid is pretty damn insulting. Yes, Iraq was a mistake and you’ll never convince me otherwise but he wanted to serve his country in uniform and that was his chocie.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 10:43:14am

re: #484 Colère Tueur de Lapin

You seem to have an extra word in your response.

:) Good point dude.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 10:47:45am

Why can’t other guys just accept that love and courtship should be something both parties want? I admit I’m not the best on the dating scene but I’m going to want a girlfriend that wants me as much as I want her. I want my partner to be happy with me.

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freetoken  May 2, 2018 • 10:48:40am

re: #483 HappyWarrior

From what I understand, he’s a Von Mises type Libertarian, those usually are bad news.

They like to use fancy names like “Von Mises” but it’s still the same old lies.

Lies about what “money” really is today.
Lies about how the economics of societies work.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 10:49:21am

re: #488 freetoken

They like to use fancy names like “Von Mises” but it’s still the same old lies.

Lies about what “money” really is today.
Lies about how the economics of societies work.

The worst thing about Von Mises is that they’re full of slavery apologists.

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freetoken  May 2, 2018 • 10:53:10am

For example, Jacobs on his twitter complains about potholes (which apparently are a problem in the community):

Yet he promises to not raise taxes.

How is he going to pay to fix them?

He’s still selling the delusion of the usual right-wing talking point, that somehow there is some magical supply of wrongly used money and if only it was spent differently then they’d have no problems.

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Stanley Sea  May 2, 2018 • 10:53:41am

re: #472 b.d. (Perfect Smokey Eye)

Good call but I think that Ted Williams’ frozen head should be Trump’s next lawyer.

Teddy popsicle!

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dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 10:54:30am

re: #399 Belafon

They fired the manager and are setting up training.

i meant is the “inevitable lawsuit” coming?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2018 • 10:59:39am

re: #380 The Vicious Babushka

THESE THINGS ARE NOT THE SAME.

@nytopinion
Pro-choice liberals endorsing the firing of Kevin Williamson can’t see that his extremism is mirrored in their own, argues @DouthatNYT

re: #383 jaunte

@chick_in_kiev
how did we get from “an incel murdered women” to “let’s seriously discuss their ideas” in like… 10 days

re: #479 JordanRules

@DailyTrix
#TrickleDownSexonomics

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dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 10:59:59am

re: #423 JordanRules

Granted he served more of a spokesperson role, but Ty Cobb was the only Trump lawyer with a clearance.

thank you for agreeing to be interviewed, mr president

you folks will have to wait outside

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lawhawk  May 2, 2018 • 11:00:12am

re: #462 HappyWarrior

My Pap-Pap, Nana’s father was friends with Honus Wagner and probably played amateur ball with him in the Burgh. Cobb’s a legitimate top 10 of all time but man I love Honus and not just because of my famliy ties. He was a gentleman. Never heard a bad word about him in Larry Ritter’s Glory of Their Times.

A few years back, I stayed in a town in upstate NY called Fleischmanns. The town is a speck, but they had a ballfield, and Honus Wagner was the most famous person who played there.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2018 • 11:05:12am

Oops

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dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 11:05:22am

re: #437 KGxvi

There was speculation last night on MSNBC that Dowd left because one of the categories of questions involved dangled pardons, and that would have been Dowd that did that, if it was done (narrator: oh, it was done, it most definitely was)

psst…. Ty: leaving won’t help. they still know how to find you

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dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 11:07:33am

re: #444 retired cynic

I HATE WINDOWS! sorry … I have to use it in Parallels for some software. I’m sticking with 7 as long as I can get by with it!

ditto

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2018 • 11:08:02am

Stop it.
Stop it right now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2018 • 11:08:36am

re: #479 JordanRules

sex is a commodity if you look on women as chattel

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MsJ  May 2, 2018 • 11:08:40am

re: #487 HappyWarrior

Why can’t other guys just accept that love and courtship should be something both parties want? I admit I’m not the best on the dating scene but I’m going to want a girlfriend that wants me as much as I want her. I want my partner to be happy with me.

Because they don’t want girlfriends, they want sex slaves. Beautiful sex slaves (way above “their station” hence makeup being evil making ugly wimmens purdy) that cannot say No to them.

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freetoken  May 2, 2018 • 11:09:27am

re: #501 MsJ

Because they don’t want girlfriends, they want sex slaves. Beautiful sex slaves (way above “their station” hence makeup being evil making ugly wimmens purdy) that cannot say No to them.

Sounds like how the cover of many Sci-Fi books appear.

503
gocart mozart  May 2, 2018 • 11:10:36am

re: #491 Stanley Sea

Good call but I think that Ted Williams’ frozen head should be Trump’s next lawyer.

How did that end up. Was his actually frozen, whole body or head?

504
dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 11:10:59am

re: #455 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Lite or regular? He discards them so quickly it seems a waste to buy the regular lawyer version.

beer - you cant buy it you can only rent it

apparently though you can actually buy some lawyers

505
wrenchwench  May 2, 2018 • 11:11:04am
States vary widely in their approaches to regulating concealed weapons. But in 2004, Congress passed the Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act, declaring that police officers can carry concealed guns in any state with no need of a local license.

What could go wrong?

Norwood formed the reserve program [in Lake Arthur, NM] in 2005, not long after he joined the department. With the nearest backup a half-hour or more away, he didn’t like the idea of patrolling solo, so he turned to a couple of Army buddies for volunteer help. The program expanded by word of mouth. At one point a few years ago, there were almost 150 reserve officers—that’d be a ratio of one to every 2.9 residents—and Norwood, who prefers patrolling to paperwork, acknowledged he wasn’t giving the program the oversight it needed. In 2016 a reserve captain took over administrative duties, tightened up policies, and cut the number of reservists almost in half. Last year, Norwood stopped accepting new members altogether. But even this smaller force is enough to provide him with a visiting reservist or two on any given day, free of charge.

What could go wronger? How about if Robert Mercer gets involved?

The Mercers don’t talk to the press, and Robert Mercer wouldn’t tell me why he started volunteering for the Lake Arthur police. When I went there to see for myself, I found that it was unlike any police department I’d come across.

The above quotations are from this: Robert Mercer’s Secret Adventure as a New Mexico Cop (from March 28, 2018).

The below quotations are from this: Playing Cop: the Lake Arthur badge scheme

“It’s kind of like going back to the Wild West,” State Rep. Bill Rehm said.

“When I first looked at it I went oh my God,” New Mexico Municipal League Executive Director Bill Fulginiti said.

And when State Police Chief Pete Kassetas found out what is going on in Lake Arthur, New Mexico he said, “It makes absolutely no sense. It’s dangerous. It’s inexcusable.”

To the casual observer, Lake Arthur is just a picturesque village 33 miles south of Roswell. But behind the scenes, there’s something terribly wrong in Lake Arthur, New Mexico: Population 430.

The focus of KRQE News 13’s investigation is on the Village Police Department. Officially Lake Arthur doesn’t really have a police department. The village pays volunteer cops $20 a year to occasionally write speeding tickets. But our investigation finds, unofficially, Lake Arthur has amassed an underground police force with more than 100 gun-toting officers on its roster. None of them live in Lake Arthur. In fact, most don’t even live in New Mexico.

[…]

This story has been kicking around for months and years, but I only found out about it yesterday. Or the day before. I can’t keep track of anything anymore.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2018 • 11:13:50am

Sorry, but the whole ‘cultural appropriation debate” has pretty much become as stupid the Diamond and Silk congressional hearing

507
gocart mozart  May 2, 2018 • 11:16:40am

I was going to respond but I think I’ll just block.

MK-Ultra??
(Google)

Project MKUltra, also called the CIA mind control program, is the code name given to a program of experiments on human subjects that were designed and undertaken by the United States Central Intelligence Agency—and which were illegal at times.[1] Experiments on humans were intended to identify and develop drugs and procedures to be used in interrogations in order to weaken the individual and force confessions through mind control. The project was organized through the Office of Scientific Intelligence of the CIA and coordinated with the U.S. Army Biological Warfare Laboratories.[2]

Ok

508
dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 11:17:17am

re: #473 Blind Frog Belly White

They didn’t hold a candle to Klump and Schlubb.
//

or oddjob

509
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 2, 2018 • 11:17:21am

I recall an article in The Atlantic around 1980 entitled “Can Sex Save the Democrats” joking about the Guaranteed Annual Lay” as a means of ensuring proper “redistribution”.

But since purchasing sex can lead to legal issues and a lifetime as a registered sex offender, we force people into the most ridiculous situations where everything short of just paying for services rendered is allowed…as long as it is called something else…

our President is a poster child for that

510
freetoken  May 2, 2018 • 11:19:08am

They promised me rain.

We got .03” .

It will not last us until November.

511
The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2018 • 11:19:23am

re: #506 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Sorry, but the whole ‘cultural appropriation debate” has pretty much become as stupid the Diamond and Silk congressional hearing

[Embedded content]

It’s a nice dress. The part that got her in trouble was a photo of her & her friends doing something that looked like a Buddhist prayer pose, which she claimed she saw some pop star do on TV.

512
MsJ  May 2, 2018 • 11:20:13am
513
freetoken  May 2, 2018 • 11:22:28am

re: #512 MsJ

514
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2018 • 11:22:34am

re: #512 MsJ

515
gocart mozart  May 2, 2018 • 11:22:46am
516
Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2018 • 11:22:51am

re: #483 HappyWarrior

From what I understand, he’s a Von Mises type Libertarian, those usually are bad news.

I hate von Mises to pieces!

517
Belafon  May 2, 2018 • 11:24:29am

re: #482 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I have two nephews and a niece that joined (two in the Air Force, one in the Army). They join because they want to serve.

518
dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 11:25:03am

re: #487 HappyWarrior

Why can’t other guys just accept that love and courtship should be something both parties want? I admit I’m not the best on the dating scene but I’m going to want a girlfriend that wants me as much as I want her. I want my partner to be happy with me.

its not love, courtship or anything mutual

its sex and relational dominance

519
Romantic Heretic  May 2, 2018 • 11:26:06am

re: #434 jaunte

The Last Starfighter - We Die

520
dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 11:26:17am

re: #490 freetoken

For example, Jacobs on his twitter complains about potholes (which apparently are a problem in the community):

[Embedded content]

Yet he promises to not raise taxes.

How is he going to pay to fix them?

He’s still selling the delusion of the usual right-wing talking point, that somehow there is some magical supply of wrongly used money and if only it was spent differently then they’d have no problems.

there is
stop spending it on what theyre now spending it on
start spending it on what i want

521
Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2018 • 11:26:37am

No, it couldn’t, because I DON’T DO THAT!!!

522
Belafon  May 2, 2018 • 11:27:43am

re: #502 freetoken

Sounds like how the cover of many Sci-Fi books appear.

Sounds like Atlas Shrugged.

523
Stanley Sea  May 2, 2018 • 11:27:50am

re: #503 gocart mozart

How did that end up. Was his actually frozen, whole body or head?

Head detached from body. Put into container.

When his son died a few years later they did the same with his head.

524
Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2018 • 11:28:07am

re: #490 freetoken

For example, Jacobs on his twitter complains about potholes (which apparently are a problem in the community):

[Embedded content]

Yet he promises to not raise taxes.

How is he going to pay to fix them?

He’s still selling the delusion of the usual right-wing talking point, that somehow there is some magical supply of wrongly used money and if only it was spent differently then they’d have no problems.

“Waste, Fraud, and Abuse!”

Oh, and nonwhite people. Somehow.

525
lawhawk  May 2, 2018 • 11:28:17am

re: #496 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Marco backtracked after admitting the tax scam wasn’t growing anything but the debt.
Price admits the GOP scam is intent on hiking costs and depriving millions of coverage.

I sense this is a trend - admit they are fucking over the nation all while backtracking and still voting to double down on the fuckery.

526
makeitstop  May 2, 2018 • 11:29:21am

Great. When’s the mother company shutting down?

527
Jay C  May 2, 2018 • 11:30:03am

re: #524 Blind Frog Belly White

“Waste, Fraud, and Abuse!”

Oh, and nonwhite people. Somehow.

And for a lot of people in this country the terms are synonymous….

528
Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2018 • 11:32:00am

re: #526 makeitstop

[Embedded content]

Great. When’s the mother company shutting down?

The name became a Bad Word, kinda like Blackwater. Now they’ll be reborn with some trendy name. Blackwater went for ‘Xe’, which English pronunciation isn’t built for. Maybe they’ll do something similar, like ‘Qi’.

529
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2018 • 11:32:10am
530
BeachDem  May 2, 2018 • 11:32:17am

re: #514 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

So he said ugly things about Pelosi behind her back, and Michelle Wolf had the guts to say (what I still don’t consider all that ugly) things to Huckabee Sanders to her face. So who’s the coward, Dennis?

And I like how he said BRUTAL things about Pelosi, but Sanders is such a nice woman…OK, Dennis. No joke. No joke. You’re the joke.

531
MsJ  May 2, 2018 • 11:33:15am

re: #526 makeitstop

[Embedded content]

Great. When’s the mother company shutting down?

Exactly. They will have a new and improved name while delivering the same shit.

532
JordanRules  May 2, 2018 • 11:33:25am

re: #526 makeitstop

[Embedded content]

Great. When’s the mother company shutting down?

Right. Fool me once…

533
HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 11:33:29am

re: #514 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

Sounds like a cop out to me Denny.

534
Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2018 • 11:33:32am

re: #527 Jay C

And for a lot of people in this country the terms are synonymous….

Right. I should have said,

“Waste, Fraud and Abuse!” And nonwhite people. But I repeat myself.

535
ObserverArt  May 2, 2018 • 11:34:07am

re: #507 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

I was going to respond but I think I’ll just block.

MK-Ultra??
(Google)

Ok

Ted Kaczynski (The Unibomber) was thought to have undergone some of those MK-Ultra experiments while at Harvard under the guidance of Harvard psychologist Henry Murray.

Of course if it was a secret CIA experiment there will be little info on it.

536
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2018 • 11:34:32am

hmmm
maybe we know why Kanye is sucking up to Trump

537
Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2018 • 11:35:47am

re: #533 HappyWarrior

Sounds like a cop out to me Denny.

“Cop Out” would have been a great name for a movie or TV show in the late 90s/early 2000s about an openly gay policeman.

Now, I think we’re kind of at the point where most viewers would say, “He’s gay. So?” Which is kind of the point.

538
Romantic Heretic  May 2, 2018 • 11:36:20am

re: #482 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Both Mr. Needham and Mr. Van Reet need to STFU.

539
HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 11:36:27am

re: #506 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Sorry, but the whole ‘cultural appropriation debate” has pretty much become as stupid the Diamond and Silk congressional hearing

[Embedded content]

One of my friends is insisting that this is going to be used to tarnish the whole left and I’ve had to politely but firmly explain to him that everyone LoC I’ve talked to has no problem with her dress. I’ve got photos of my niece in Kenyan or Tanzanian dresses and El Salvadorian ones that her Dad bought her. The people in thoes countries selling them to him knew that his daughter wasn’t El Salvadorian or African. I say let’s embrace other cultures. That’s how we’ll get closer together. This girl being harassed over a choice of dress which I think she looks good in btw just helps no one.

540
dangerman  May 2, 2018 • 11:37:11am

re: #530 BeachDem

So he said ugly things about Pelosi behind her back, and Michelle Wolf had the guts to say (what I still don’t consider all that ugly) things to Huckabee Sanders to her face. So who’s the coward, Dennis?

And I like how he said BRUTAL things about Pelosi, but Sanders is such a nice woman…OK, Dennis. No joke. No joke. You’re the joke.

see how it all morphs?

about a 17 minute performance was it?
maybe 1 or max 2 on sanders

all anyone talks about is wolf/sanders

541
JordanRules  May 2, 2018 • 11:38:20am

re: #536 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

hmmm
maybe we know why Kanye is sucking up to Trump

[Embedded content]

Naw, but reviving the October story is the kind of PR Kris knows they need right now.

542
HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 11:39:32am

re: #537 Blind Frog Belly White

“Cop Out” would have been a great name for a movie or TV show in the late 90s/early 2000s about an openly gay policeman.

Now, I think we’re kind of at the point where most viewers would say, “He’s gay. So?” Which is kind of the point.

Well in the 80’s and 90’s, he’d be a caricature of a gay guy. He’d probably be more fleshed out now. But yeah, not that it’s much better in tolerance level but I’m reminded of a LGBT person who said their grandmother was bothered more by their religious skepticism than sexuality.
“Oh you’re gay? You still hate the Yankees, Cowboys, Trump and the Empire? “
“Yeah, I just like dudes.”
“Okay dude you’re good.”

I also saw a cute story the other day that Brad Takei shared about a kid who has two Dads. “They’er fine with me having two Dads but they hate that they can’t do your Momma jokes.”

Kids are all right.

543
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2018 • 11:40:02am

re: #526 makeitstop

[Embedded content]

Great. When’s the mother company shutting down?

re: #528 Blind Frog Belly White

The name became a Bad Word, kinda like Blackwater. Now they’ll be reborn with some trendy name. Blackwater went for ‘Xe’, which English pronunciation isn’t built for. Maybe they’ll do something similar, like ‘Qi’.

re: #531 MsJ

Exactly. They will have a new and improved name while delivering the same shit.

re: #532 JordanRules

Right. Fool me once…

544
makeitstop  May 2, 2018 • 11:41:14am

re: #528 Blind Frog Belly White

The name became a Bad Word, kinda like Blackwater. Now they’ll be reborn with some trendy name. Blackwater went for ‘Xe’, which English pronunciation isn’t built for. Maybe they’ll do something similar, like ‘Qi’.

The parent company is called SCL Group, which did the same thing before CA existed (the name Cambridge Analytica was largely Bannon’s idea) and will probably keep doing the same thing from here on out.

That’s who should be shut down. Cambridge Analytica was essentially a DBA.

545
BeachDem  May 2, 2018 • 11:41:19am

re: #526 makeitstop

[Embedded content]

Great. When’s the mother company shutting down?

Watch this space. (Wendy Siegelman will have all the receipts!)

medium.com

546
Dr Lizardo  May 2, 2018 • 11:42:58am

re: #544 makeitstop

The parent company is called SCL Group, which did the same thing before CA existed (the name Cambridge Analytica was largely Bannon’s idea) and will probably keep doing the same thing from here on out.

That’s who should be shut down. Cambridge Analytica was essentially a DBA.

SCL Group is shutting down.

547
Romantic Heretic  May 2, 2018 • 11:43:29am

re: #518 dangerman

Power without responsibility. Every barbarian’s dream.

548
makeitstop  May 2, 2018 • 11:43:53am

re: #546 Dr Lizardo

SCL Group is shutting down.

We’ll need to keep an eye on where the principals go, then.

549
Dr Lizardo  May 2, 2018 • 11:45:10am

re: #548 makeitstop

We’ll need to keep an eye on where the principals go, then.

Might be hard to do that if they skedaddle off to Moscow, and I don’t mean the city in Idaho.

550
BlueSpotinAL  May 2, 2018 • 11:45:29am

NYTimes article reading tip for ObserverArt and others: if you use the private browser option, it never records how many articles you view that month.

551
Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2018 • 11:45:51am

re: #544 makeitstop

The parent company is called SCL Group, which did the same thing before CA existed (the name Cambridge Analytica was largely Bannon’s idea) and will probably keep doing the same thing from here on out.

That’s who should be shut down. Cambridge Analytica was essentially a DBA.

Well, then…

552
wrenchwench  May 2, 2018 • 11:46:12am

re: #548 makeitstop

We’ll need to keep an eye on where the principals go, then.

Out back, around a fire. Can’t just burn paper these days. Servers and phones too.

553
BeachDem  May 2, 2018 • 11:47:09am

re: #544 makeitstop

The parent company is called SCL Group, which did the same thing before CA existed (the name Cambridge Analytica was largely Bannon’s idea) and will probably keep doing the same thing from here on out.

That’s who should be shut down. Cambridge Analytica was essentially a DBA.

SCL is so last month. Emerdata was set up a year ago to acquire all of Cambridge Analytica and all of SCL

medium.com

554
Sir John Barron  May 2, 2018 • 11:47:30am

re: #512 MsJ

What a horrid human being Michelle Wolf is. I’m going to read up on her over the next couple of days and I will have a few brutally mean jokes about her by Wednesday.

— Dennis Miller

Such a delicate snowflake this one. So sensitive. GOP needs a safe space.

555
JordanRules  May 2, 2018 • 11:50:35am
556
Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2018 • 11:51:09am
557
The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2018 • 11:51:17am

CHEEBUS

558
BeachDem  May 2, 2018 • 11:53:00am

Here’s the Emerdata chart for those who don’t want to read the article. It’s easier to read at the link)

medium.com

559
The Vicious Babushka  May 2, 2018 • 11:53:01am

We all know Bibi is a fuckhead but meanwhile…

560
Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2018 • 11:53:16am

re: #556 Blind Frog Belly White

Wait - where’d all those other Tweets come from? I only wanted the last 2!

That Garrison cartoon - yeesh.

561
ObserverArt  May 2, 2018 • 11:53:38am

re: #550 BlueSpotinAL

NYTimes article reading tip for ObserverArt and others: if you use the private browser option, it never records how many articles you view that month.

I do use that option. But I seem to still trigger page counts.

How do you get around that?

Or, if you go through a regular browser link and private browser links do the cookies somehow link the two to keep counting?

562
Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2018 • 11:54:13am
563
HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 11:54:18am

re: #556 Blind Frog Belly White

[Embedded content]

JFC.

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HappyWarrior  May 2, 2018 • 11:55:12am

re: #559 The Vicious Babushka

We all know Bibi is a fuckhead but meanwhile…

[Embedded content]

Yep fuck Abbas too.

565
BlueSpotinAL  May 2, 2018 • 11:57:48am

re: #561 ObserverArt

All I know is that when I get the message (Firefox browser), I copy the link address into new browser window (private). Maybe I don’t read enough NYT artiicles.

566
ObserverArt  May 2, 2018 • 11:59:01am

re: #562 Blind Frog Belly White

[Embedded content]

Once the methods of using the private data are designed, it is going to be really hard to prevent them from being used again and again.

The only way to stop it is for the data to not be allowed to be used by others.

But where is the fun money in that?

567
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 2, 2018 • 11:59:15am

re: #528 Blind Frog Belly White

The name became a Bad Word, kinda like Blackwater. Now they’ll be reborn with some trendy name. Blackwater went for ‘Xe’, which English pronunciation isn’t built for. Maybe they’ll do something similar, like ‘Qi’.

They’re Academi now, which is a subsidiary of Constellis

568
lawhawk  May 2, 2018 • 12:00:53pm

re: #559 The Vicious Babushka

The Holocaust denying Abbas is still up to his old tricks.

569
Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2018 • 12:01:52pm

re: #567 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

They’re Academi now, which is a subsidiary of Constellis

“Hey, let’s take a real word, and misspell it so it looks clever!”

570
sagehen  May 2, 2018 • 12:13:46pm

re: #531 MsJ

Exactly. They will have a new and improved name while delivering the same shit.

At the same time, skirting any liability for anything done under the CA name. Because it was an LLC, and so what that it’s all the same principals doing the same stuff, using all the data that was CA’s primary asset.

571
Blind Frog Belly White  May 2, 2018 • 12:17:56pm

re: #570 sagehen

At the same time, skirting any liability for anything done under the CA name. Because it was an LLC, and so what that it’s all the same principals doing the same stuff, using all the data that was CA’s primary asset.

This, BTW, is what’s wrong with Free Marketeer’s arguments that The Market polices itself and wrongdoers get punished by The Market. They just fold up the tent, take the contents and go set up a different tent.


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