Trump Follows Giuliani’s Stunning Admission That He Lied About Stormy Daniels With an Even More Damaging Twitter Rant

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OK, folks. Coffee break’s over. Back on your heads.

Today our so-called president followed up Rudy Giuliani’s stunning admission that Trump outright lied when he said he knew nothing about the Stormy Daniels case (he knew plenty) and hadn’t authorized any payments (he did) with an even more damaging series of tweets trying to talk his way out of what was very clearly a violation of campaign finance laws at the very least.

And a violation of all standards of simple human decency as well.

“Played no roll.” LOL.

Notice that he forgot how to thread his tweets again.

It would be the height of poetic justice if Trump’s affair with a porn star is what starts the dominos tumbling. The sleaziness. The sleaziness.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 11:56:03am
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Charles Johnson  May 3, 2018 • 11:57:07am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 11:57:22am
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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 11:58:14am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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Noun, verb, & lie with apologies to Biden.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 11:58:29am

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh?

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Charles Johnson  May 3, 2018 • 11:58:58am

Sometimes I suspect this whole last two years has been a really bad acid flashback.

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jaunte  May 3, 2018 • 11:59:21am
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jaunte  May 3, 2018 • 11:59:53am
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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 12:00:39pm

re: #7 jaunte

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So calling him a leaker and liar was just a smear, way to go WH press corps, this is the woman who told us deserved respect when she has none for us.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 12:01:25pm

re: #8 jaunte

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The only thing out of control is the Trump spin machine.

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syphonblue  May 3, 2018 • 12:01:46pm

Those tweets are HILARIOUSLY not written by Trump.

Also, investigators had been wiretapping Michael Cohen’s phones for weeks before the raid into his office, home, and hotel. And they have at least one call between the White House and Cohen.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 12:02:19pm

I hate this crooked regime.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 3, 2018 • 12:03:48pm

All irony records are being shattered today as serial adulterer, crotch grabber, and corrupt foreign agent Donald Trump presides over National Prayer Day.

This is my offering for the Commander ‘n Thief and his media shills:

“Let their lying lips be silenced, for with pride and contempt they speak arrogantly against the righteous.” Psalm 31:18

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Scottish Dragon  May 3, 2018 • 12:03:59pm
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goddamnedfrank  May 3, 2018 • 12:04:01pm

You cannot be a party to a valid contract that you didn’t sign and knew nothing about. Valid contracts also require “consideration” between the two contracting parties, so if Daniels wasn’t paid through a specific overt act by Trump intended to compensate her for signing the NDA then there is no contract. These are basic, widely known required elements of contract law. Every small business owner who has ever hired a contractor knows this, ever photographer who has ever crafted a model release knows this.

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Scottish Dragon  May 3, 2018 • 12:04:20pm
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makeitstop  May 3, 2018 • 12:04:34pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

The only thing out of control is the Trump spin machine.

Front Load Washer Total Carnage - Washer goes Chain Chomp on me

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 12:05:21pm
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Scottish Dragon  May 3, 2018 • 12:05:24pm
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Mike Lamb  May 3, 2018 • 12:05:58pm

re: #8 jaunte

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These dipshits act as if Mueller, et al. don’t have to get judicial approval for the steps they are taking.

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ObserverArt  May 3, 2018 • 12:07:35pm

I’ve been building a wall.

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JordanRules  May 3, 2018 • 12:07:55pm

re: #20 Mike Lamb

These dipshits act as if Mueller, et al. don’t have to get judicial approval for the steps they are taking.

Many of them do know, but they’re the ones with just enough cred to push it out to the ones in the cult who actually don’t.

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Charles Johnson  May 3, 2018 • 12:08:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 12:08:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 12:09:56pm

Massie is an asshole

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JordanRules  May 3, 2018 • 12:10:09pm

re: #21 ObserverArt

I’ve been building a wall.

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That’s awesome!!

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 12:11:49pm

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

Massie is an asshole

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Do him and Rand get their hair from the same side of the road?

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ObserverArt  May 3, 2018 • 12:12:12pm

re: #9 HappyWarrior

So calling him a leaker and liar was just a smear, way to go WH press corps, this is the woman who told us deserved respect when she has none for us.

Does anyone think some of those journalists that complained about Michelle Wolf are feeling a little embarrassed about dumping on a comedian and supporting what Wolf expressed truthfully?

Nah. Unpossible. They are too far up their Washington Beltway Club asses.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 12:13:17pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 12:14:14pm
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goddamnedfrank  May 3, 2018 • 12:14:38pm

This is extremely relatable.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 12:16:42pm
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KGxvi  May 3, 2018 • 12:16:56pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

Saw your question earlier about Hewitt and how dumb he is…

For the record, I didn’t actually take Hewitt’s class, I took John Eastman’s class (Eastman is incredibly smart but also very wrong on a lot of social issues). Hewitt’s class was often referred to as “show prep” by my classmates who took it.

And as I’ve always said about Hewitt, he’s not dumb but he is a bit of a hack. Specifically, he’s one of those people who see politics as a game, and he roots for Team Republican, so he will forgive/explain away any mistake they make. He will also change his tune when the party goes a different direction. In 2008 he was Team Romney until McCain won, and then McCain was always his guy.

He’s also a fan of the Browns, so he’s spent his entire life talking himself into a questionable decision being a good idea.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2018 • 12:17:31pm
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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 12:17:52pm

re: #33 KGxvi

Saw your question earlier about Hewitt and how dumb he is…

For the record, I didn’t actually take Hewitt’s class, I took John Eastman’s class (Eastman is incredibly smart but also very wrong on a lot of social issues). Hewitt’s class was often referred to as “show prep” by my classmates who took it.

And as I’ve always said about Hewitt, he’s not dumb but he is a bit of a hack. Specifically, he’s one of those people who see politics as a game, and he roots for Team Republican, so he will forgive/explain away any mistake they make. He will also change his tune when the party goes a different direction. In 2008 he was Team Romney until McCain won, and then McCain was always his guy.

He’s also a fan of the Browns, so he’s spent his entire life talking himself into a questionable decision being a good idea.

Ah thanks. Browns fan and a GOP team hack? Wowie.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 12:18:38pm

re: #34 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Grab em by the pussy is fine but don’t say vagina!

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dangerman  May 3, 2018 • 12:19:10pm

currently jammin:

YouTube

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 3, 2018 • 12:20:16pm

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

That over-compressed image is on her facebook page, and looks awful full-screen.
Don’t they teach kids to edit images, and choose the right file format and compression?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 12:20:24pm
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dangerman  May 3, 2018 • 12:20:28pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Sometimes I suspect hope this whole last two years has been a really bad acid flashback.

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b.d. (Be Best)  May 3, 2018 • 12:20:37pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Awwwww, poor Sarah sad that she works for a liar? The poor dear must be in shock!

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KGxvi  May 3, 2018 • 12:20:48pm

re: #7 jaunte

“The president doesn’t have to have a justification to fire him.”

Here’s the thing, if the original answer (and then consistent) answer from the White House was “the president and the American people thank Director Comey for his years of service to this nation; however, the president believes it is in the best interest of the DOJ and the FBI for new leadership…” a lot of us would have been skeptical, but they wouldn’t have run headlong into a minefield.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 12:21:31pm

re: #38 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

That over-compressed image is on her facebook page, and looks awful full-screen.
Don’t they teach kids to edit images, and choose the right file format and compression?

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probably taught that during the time she was suspended…

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makeitstop  May 3, 2018 • 12:21:32pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

“We’re not suckers”

Facts not in evidence, your honor….

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KGxvi  May 3, 2018 • 12:23:12pm

re: #35 HappyWarrior

Ah thanks. Browns fan and a GOP team hack? Wowie.

He’s from the Cleveland area, so I don’t hold his sports fandoms against him. But I’ve never understood the people who end up with political fandoms like that (and I have some in my family).

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Alephnaught  May 3, 2018 • 12:23:40pm

From downthread, from a discussion about memes.

re: #622 I cannot.

Things like “All of them, Katie” are memes…I haven’t seen a shop for that. Memes are designed to get a certain relatively simple idea across easily and quickly, and to reinforce that idea in those who already have that idea.

They can be done in text, visual or audio or some combination.

I first heard the word “meme” from, believe it or not, Richard Dawkins. This was back in the late 1980s, way back before his head expanded. He presented this documentary, on BBC2’s “Horizon” science series, about evolutionary biology. I’m pretty sure this documentary is YouTube somewhere. This would be around the time of his book “The Blind Watchmaker”.

In one segment, he has a simple evolutionary model running on a computer- this being the UK in the late 80’s, it’s an Acorn BBC Master 128. After this, Dawkins points out, that, if you can demonstrate evolution in what we would call today a virtual environment, then evolution does not necessarily need to apply to purely physical attributes, it can also apply to abstract concepts, such as thoughts and ideas. He refer to these evolutionary traits as memes. (Dunno if he he came up with the word, but he was certainly using it like he owned it in his books of the time.)

So that’s how I understand the word: basically an idea or concept subject to evolutionary selection that manages to catch on. Doesn’t matter the format- it could be argued any religion or political stance is a meme.

Of course, the thing about memes as evolutionary traits is that most evolutionary traits are ephemeral in the long run. In terms of memes, “Maybe we should be nice to each other” seems to have held up pretty well. Not too sure, on the other hand, about Rick-Rolling.

Indeed, most of the memes you hear about don’t actually last even the short term. Which is exactly how you expect it to work in evolutionary terms. Hence I observe all those right-wing memes being subsumed into a cultural evolutionary process, and spat out not long afterwards, and I have to bite my lip when they go on about evolution being a myth.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 12:25:26pm

re: #45 KGxvi

He’s from the Cleveland area, so I don’t hold his sports fandoms against him. But I’ve never understood the people who end up with political fandoms like that (and I have some in my family).

I’m just busting on him as a Steelers fan. He’s loyal there I give him that but yeah I hear ya about that in politics.

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ObserverArt  May 3, 2018 • 12:26:29pm

re: #33 KGxvi

Saw your question earlier about Hewitt and how dumb he is…

For the record, I didn’t actually take Hewitt’s class, I took John Eastman’s class (Eastman is incredibly smart but also very wrong on a lot of social issues). Hewitt’s class was often referred to as “show prep” by my classmates who took it.

And as I’ve always said about Hewitt, he’s not dumb but he is a bit of a hack. Specifically, he’s one of those people who see politics as a game, and he roots for Team Republican, so he will forgive/explain away any mistake they make. He will also change his tune when the party goes a different direction. In 2008 he was Team Romney until McCain won, and then McCain was always his guy.

He’s also a fan of the Browns, so he’s spent his entire life talking himself into a questionable decision being a good idea.

Hey…hey…hey…I’m a Brown’s fan and that comment is out of line.

They have not always been bad. So you are wrong there.

And, how many cities have had their sports team ripped away from them and moved to another city. And, the new ownership went to a previous partner that died two seasons in to a new franchise, then was taken over by a son that did not like football.

Yeah they’ve sucked…but loyalty is not a sin. And watch a Browns game sometime. They still pack the stadium at the start of every home game with passionate fans. Not wagon riders and front runners like so many fake ass fans.

I’ve stuck with the Democrats my whole life too. Thick or thin.

: )

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Bubblehead II  May 3, 2018 • 12:26:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 12:27:45pm
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Sir John Barron  May 3, 2018 • 12:27:56pm

re: #8 jaunte

Isn’t Fitton from Judicial Watch, which wants to put all Dems in jail?

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dangerman  May 3, 2018 • 12:28:21pm

i can already tell this is one of those threads i’ll have to upding every single post

i suspect the trump team doesnt even realize how much they are being exposed, excoriated, evicerated, just absolutely savaged by people with knowledge and experience who are turning them into little bitty sheriff meatballs

then there’s all the amateurs who, you know, can read or compare two video clips

and that’s just twitter

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Sir John Barron  May 3, 2018 • 12:28:32pm

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh, mercy, get the fainting couches and the clutching pearls. CNN called SHS a liar.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 12:28:37pm

re: #48 ObserverArt

Hey…hey…hey…I’m a Brown’s fan and that comment is out of line.

They have not always been bad. So you are wrong there.

And, how many cities have had their sports team ripped away from them and moved to another city. And, the new ownership went to a previous partner that died two seasons in to a new franchise, then was taken over by a son that did not like football.

Yeah they’ve sucked…but loyalty is not a sin. And watch a Browns game sometime. They still pack the stadium at the start of every home game with passionate fans. Not wagon riders and front runners like so many fake ass fans.

I’ve stuck with the Democrats my whole life too. Thick or thin.

: )

Browns fans are an admirable bunch and as a Steelers fan I really want the rivalry to boot up again. I think the problem with politics being reduced to soortsdom is people ignore shit they shouldn’t and we both know a great example of that.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 12:29:21pm

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Accosta drives it, it’s deep, deep!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 12:29:39pm
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Scottish Dragon  May 3, 2018 • 12:30:40pm
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KGxvi  May 3, 2018 • 12:30:55pm

re: #48 ObserverArt

Hey…hey…hey…I’m a Brown’s fan and that comment is out of line.

They have not always been bad. So you are wrong there.

And, how many cities have had their sports team ripped away from them and moved to another city. And, the new ownership went to a previous partner that died two seasons in to a new franchise, then was taken over by a son that did not like football.

Yeah they’ve sucked…but loyalty is not a sin. And watch a Browns game sometime. They still pack the stadium at the start of every home game with passionate fans. Not wagon riders and front runners like so many fake ass fans.

I’ve stuck with the Democrats my whole life too. Thick or thin.

: )

I’m from southern California, we typically steal other cities’ teams (Dodgers, Raiders, Lakers, Rams (twice), Clippers (not that anyone cares), and Chargers (though they were here first)), rather than lose them, though we have lost a couple too.

I don’t doubt the Browns fans’ loyalty. But if they’d have taken Josh Allen last week, I feel like the fan base would have talked themselves into that bad decision by now. I was mostly, though, going for the cheap joke.

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dangerman  May 3, 2018 • 12:31:17pm

re: #28 ObserverArt

Does anyone think some of those journalists that complained about Michelle Wolf are feeling a little embarrassed about dumping on a comedian and supporting what Wolf expressed truthfully?

Nah. Unpossible. They are too far up their Washington Beltway Club asses.

a possible positive from that week of handwringing may be that some of that press does a slightly better job

though the NYT saying it “seems” trumps statement doesnt agree with his previous comments makes me wonder

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Scottish Dragon  May 3, 2018 • 12:32:07pm

This guy bragged online about assaulting a trans woman with his flagpole at Charlottesville….

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goddamnedfrank  May 3, 2018 • 12:32:09pm

LOL!

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Sir John Barron  May 3, 2018 • 12:32:10pm

re: #8 jaunte

Outrageous! @realDonaldTrump’s lawyer had his phone tapped and email accounts searched before the raid. Mueller out of control. Shut it down. Rosenstein and DOJ also need to be held to account. nbcnews.com

— Tom Fitto

So, what did the DOJ or Rosenstein or Mueller do that was wrong here, Tom?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 12:32:26pm
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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 12:34:09pm

re: #61 goddamnedfrank

LOL!

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Well if it had, the world would be a better place.

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ObserverArt  May 3, 2018 • 12:34:31pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

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White Sands New Mexico is a long established missile and rocket testing range. Formerly operated as an Army facility. I think it is a NASA facility now too as with the military.

I think they are testing their Orion spacecraft there now too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 12:34:34pm

jeebus, this administration is just a reboot of Lord of the Flies.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 12:35:02pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The infighting is funny as shit.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 3, 2018 • 12:35:23pm

re: #57 Scottish Dragon

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ObserverArt  May 3, 2018 • 12:35:52pm

re: #58 KGxvi

I’m from southern California, we typically steal other cities’ teams (Dodgers, Raiders, Lakers, Rams (twice), Clippers (not that anyone cares), and Chargers (though they were here first)), rather than lose them, though we have lost a couple too.

I don’t doubt the Browns fans’ loyalty. But if they’d have taken Josh Allen last week, I feel like the fan base would have talked themselves into that bad decision by now. I was mostly, though, going for the cheap joke.

I know…had to give you some shit back!

They will be better this year. Great…no, but better.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 3, 2018 • 12:36:25pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus, this administration is just a reboot of Lord of the Flies.

Lord of the Lies?

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dangerman  May 3, 2018 • 12:37:05pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, 20 minutes of #PressBriefing and not ONE QUESTION answered.

Sarah Huckabee Sanders looked pissed, but not on the press.

She was sold a pack of lies by Trump, trotted out to lie for him, and then he threw her under his flaming dumpster of an administration

we all know who and what her boss is
like the rest of us, she knew.
she always knew what she was doing and what was being done to her

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ObserverArt  May 3, 2018 • 12:37:23pm

re: #59 dangerman

a possible positive from that week of handwringing may be that some of that press does a slightly better job

though the NYT saying it “seems” trumps statement doesnt agree with his previous comments makes me wonder

I think the Times falls into the ‘hopeless’ category. It’s sad.

I don’t even think they are aware of what America really thinks of them.

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dangerman  May 3, 2018 • 12:38:09pm

re: #36 HappyWarrior

Grab em by the pussy is fine but don’t say vagina!

um, we’re not sure what that is

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goddamnedfrank  May 3, 2018 • 12:38:16pm

Everyone is thinking the same thing at the same time lol.

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Bubblehead II  May 3, 2018 • 12:38:58pm

re: #21 ObserverArt

I’ve been building a wall.

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Looks good, but I would have used her instead of it.

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ObserverArt  May 3, 2018 • 12:39:20pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus, this administration is just a reboot of Lord of the Flies.

More like Flies on Lord Shit!

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 3, 2018 • 12:39:55pm

re: #66 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus, this administration is just a reboot of Lord of the Flies.

It sounds exactly like the internal intrigue that dictated the course of cult-of-personality governments of the past, where you’ve got the circle of cronies vying for the attention of the boss. And since there’s no coherent policy they all follow, there’s no reason not to undercut a colleague.

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petesh  May 3, 2018 • 12:40:01pm

Sarah Huckabee Sanders Zeigler is doing her best to go down as one of the more memorable occupants of the position.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 3, 2018 • 12:40:27pm

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

“We give the very best information we have at the time.” This is who respected journalists embarrassed themselves defending last weekend.

Remember Ron “That statement is no longer operative” Ziegler?

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dangerman  May 3, 2018 • 12:40:44pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

What Giuliani just told me about the NBC wiretapping scoop:

-He doesn’t think it’s true
-If it is true, it makes it even less likely Trump will sit down with Mueller
-“We’re not suckers”

rudy - mueller already knows most of the answers
you dont wanna talk? here’s what happens:

the report gets finished anyway
ironclad
it’ll include a statement like “we offered the oppty for mr trump to clear up, clarify, correct, explain”
he declined

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b.d. (Be Best)  May 3, 2018 • 12:41:51pm

re: #68 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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ObserverArt  May 3, 2018 • 12:42:56pm

re: #75 Bubblehead II

Looks good, but I would have used her instead of it.

I went with a comment that Lawhawk stated earlier. It seemed everyone agreed it was now a common meme.

Also, since we are talking a bout a wall…it is more appropriate. I think the message is pretty clear either way.

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goddamnedfrank  May 3, 2018 • 12:44:31pm

So Trump’s been lying to his outside counsel team the entire time and brought Rudy on to break the bad news to them. It’s dysfunctional fuckery all the way down.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 12:44:37pm

re: #80 dangerman

rudy - mueller already knows most of the answers
you dont wanna talk? here’s what happens:

the report gets finished anyway
ironclad
it’ll include a statement like “we offered the oppty for mr trump to clear up, clarify, correct, explain”
he declined

I gave myself cancer, take that libs!

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goddamnedfrank  May 3, 2018 • 12:46:02pm
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goddamnedfrank  May 3, 2018 • 12:48:40pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 3, 2018 • 12:49:02pm

Personal update:

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dangerman  May 3, 2018 • 12:49:26pm

re: #46 Alephnaught

From downthread, from a discussion about memes.

I first heard the word “meme” from, believe it or not, Richard Dawkins. This was back in the late 1980s, way back before his head expanded. He presented this documentary, on BBC2’s “Horizon” science series, about evolutionary biology. I’m pretty sure this documentary is YouTube somewhere. This would be around the time of his book “The Blind Watchmaker”.

In one segment, he has a simple evolutionary model running on a computer- this being the UK in the late 80’s, it’s an Acorn BBC Master 128. After this, Dawkins points out, that, if you can demonstrate evolution in what we would call today a virtual environment, then evolution does not necessarily need to apply to purely physical attributes, it can also apply to abstract concepts, such as thoughts and ideas. He refer to these evolutionary traits as memes. (Dunno if he he came up with the word, but he was certainly using it like he owned it in his books of the time.)

So that’s how I understand the word: basically an idea or concept subject to evolutionary selection that manages to catch on. Doesn’t matter the format- it could be argued any religion or political stance is a meme.

Of course, the thing about memes as evolutionary traits is that most evolutionary traits are ephemeral in the long run. In terms of memes, “Maybe we should be nice to each other” seems to have held up pretty well. Not too sure, on the other hand, about Rick-Rolling.

Indeed, most of the memes you hear about don’t actually last even the short term. Which is exactly how you expect it to work in evolutionary terms. Hence I observe all those right-wing memes being subsumed into a cultural evolutionary process, and spat out not long afterwards, and I have to bite my lip when they go on about evolution being a myth.

this is very good

i would add that memes used to evolve, er “organically” in that no one was trying to create one and have it catch fire

they were things that we became aware of as “existing”

now with tech, everyone is ‘creating” memes instantaneosly and non stop hoping for the “viral” catch on and win their 15 minutes

tech also allows the instantaneous passing around of the thing.

imo tech is either diluting or morphing the meaning of meme.

nailing together two ideas in photoshop doesnt necessariyl make a meme. it makes a meme-like thing. to be an actual meme, it would have to be passed around widely and demonstrate some staying power by withstanding a test of time

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KGxvi  May 3, 2018 • 12:49:33pm

re: #83 goddamnedfrank

So Trump’s been lying to his outside counsel team the entire time and brought Rudy on to break the bad news to them. It’s dysfunctional fuckery all the way down.

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There was reporting yesterday that Trump and Cohen won’t tell Trump’s legal team what they think/know is in the seized Cohen documents. That is, rightly, terrifying the lawyers because how the fuck are you supposed to litigate a case if you don’t know what the evidence is?

I am not at all surprised that nobody knew this until Rudy said it on TV. Nor am I shocked that Rudy is spouting off on live national television without the minimal forethought.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 12:50:28pm
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dangerman  May 3, 2018 • 12:50:45pm

re: #53 Sir John Barron

Oh, mercy, get the fainting couches and the clutching pearls. CNN called SHS a liar.

thanks michelle

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Hecuba's daughter  May 3, 2018 • 12:51:02pm

re: #87 Eclectic Cyborg

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Scottish Dragon  May 3, 2018 • 12:51:25pm
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goddamnedfrank  May 3, 2018 • 12:52:21pm

re: #89 KGxvi

There was reporting yesterday that Trump and Cohen won’t tell Trump’s legal team what they think/know is in the seized Cohen documents. That is, rightly, terrifying the lawyers because how the fuck are you supposed to litigate a case if you don’t know what the evidence is?

I am not at all surprised that nobody knew this until Rudy said it on TV. Nor am I shocked that Rudy is spouting off on live national television without the minimal forethought.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 3, 2018 • 12:52:50pm

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

Elaina Plott

@elainaplott
Scoop: A member of Scott Pruitt’s press team tried to plant a damaging story about Ryan Zinke’s team to “take the heat off” Pruitt. The White House caught him, asked if they had authority to fire him. theatlantic.com
2:23 PM - May 3, 2018]

Let’s fire both Pruitt and Zinke and everyone they appointed! The country would be better off without them.

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KGxvi  May 3, 2018 • 12:53:16pm

re: #69 ObserverArt

I know…had to give you some shit back!

They will be better this year. Great…no, but better.

I think Mayfield is going to be the second best quarterback in this draft (Jackson is going to be the best), but it’ll be close with Rosen. The defense has a chance to be really good for a long time too. Now they just need receivers and a dome (I really don’t get why any cold weather team chooses to play outdoors given the way the game has evolved).

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dangerman  May 3, 2018 • 12:54:04pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

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pruitt’s half life is about 2-3 months

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KGxvi  May 3, 2018 • 12:54:34pm

re: #97 dangerman

pruitt’s half life is about 2-3 months

So he’ll be around for 4-6 months?

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JordanRules  May 3, 2018 • 12:54:38pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2018 • 12:54:54pm
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ObserverArt  May 3, 2018 • 12:56:37pm

So, how long will new Trump lawyer Emmet Flood be a Trump lawyer? The other day I predicted early August and he would be out.

After last night and what we are hearing today…it may even be by tomorrow.

If I was a new lawyer and saw the backdooring that is going on today I’d walk right now. No good can come to his career from this mess.

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JordanRules  May 3, 2018 • 12:56:43pm
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Sir John Barron  May 3, 2018 • 12:56:57pm

re: #99 JordanRules

I hate to lose. So I’m gonna go out on a limb here and ask the people of West Virginia to make a wise decision and reject Blankenship!

No more fumbles like Alabama. We need to win in November. #wv #wvpol

— Donald Trump Jr.

Wow, thought MAGA would be all in for Blankenship. He’s killed workers. What more is a GOP candidate supposed to do?

//

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JordanRules  May 3, 2018 • 12:57:22pm

LOL!!!

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KGxvi  May 3, 2018 • 12:59:43pm

re: #101 ObserverArt

So, how long will new Trump lawyer Emmet Flood be a Trump lawyer? The other day I predicted early August and he would be out.

After last night and what we are hearing today…it may even be by tomorrow.

If I was a new lawyer and saw the backdooring that is going on today I’d walk right now. No good can come to his career from this mess.

Flood was apparently hired as a White House lawyer, rather than a personal lawyer. So he’s client is more the office of the president than the president himself.

I’m still not sure why anyone would want to work for Trump at this point. Even if you’re doing so out of a sense of loyalty to the nation, you have to realize that the cancer affecting the body politic is emanating from the Oval Office.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 3, 2018 • 1:02:28pm

re: #92 Hecuba’s daughter

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ObserverArt  May 3, 2018 • 1:02:57pm

re: #96 KGxvi

I think Mayfield is going to be the second best quarterback in this draft (Jackson is going to be the best), but it’ll be close with Rosen. The defense has a chance to be really good for a long time too. Now they just need receivers and a dome (I really don’t get why any cold weather team chooses to play outdoors given the way the game has evolved).

They got former Dolphin possession receiver Jarvis Landry a month or so ago. Added to Josh Gordon, if he can keep himself out of trouble and on the field, they now have a pretty solid starting duo. If the risky choice of Florida receiver Antonio Callaway works out they may have gotten a steal there too.

Also, heard earlier today, they are “exploring” options for either reconfiguring existing stadium or looking to build another.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 1:04:00pm

re: #104 JordanRules

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LOL!!!

Is there a bigger political coward than Rubio?

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JordanRules  May 3, 2018 • 1:04:36pm

I remember when I was like daaaaamn the Brits messed up soooo bad, after Brexit.
Then we did what we did.
Now we know more about what happened and who was involved. It’s horrifying all around. So is this and I’m afraid neither country is prepared…again.

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b.d. (Be Best)  May 3, 2018 • 1:04:39pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

Is there a bigger political coward than Rubio?

Rand Paul?

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dangerman  May 3, 2018 • 1:04:48pm

re: #98 KGxvi

So he’ll be around for 4-6 months?

that’s what im guessing
and it’ll become obvious in 2-3

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meteor  May 3, 2018 • 1:04:55pm

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 1:05:16pm

re: #103 Sir John Barron

Wow, thought MAGA would be all in for Blankenship. He’s killed workers. What more is a GOP candidate supposed to do?

//

Only thing I can guess is Trump doesn’t like his mustache. I’m serious here.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 1:05:42pm

re: #110 b.d. (Disposable)

Rand Paul?

He’s up there but Rubio is more so imo but touché.

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ObserverArt  May 3, 2018 • 1:07:44pm

re: #110 b.d. (Disposable)

Rand Paul?

I think Paul Ryan put himself on that list too.

And Jeff Flake…

Bob Corker…

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JordanRules  May 3, 2018 • 1:08:14pm
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lawhawk  May 3, 2018 • 1:08:44pm

Trump’s up to trying some inception level bulkshit to spin that he didn’t know all about the payments he personally authorized to his lawyer who only represents him on a few things but who has the keys to files on everything and doesn’t know anything about the business other than where all the skeletons are buried all while Trump denies any wrongdoing and Trump’s new lawyer Rudy admits there’s wrongdoing and Cohen’s been wiretapped because of ongoing criminality.

Yeah. It’s a run on sentence, but that’s how the past 24 hours has been.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2018 • 1:08:53pm
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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 1:08:58pm

re: #116 JordanRules

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Okay…

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Teukka  May 3, 2018 • 1:09:30pm

Aaand here we go again… Nashville, TN:
Police: 4 people shot inside Opry Mills Mall - WSMV News 4

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dangerman  May 3, 2018 • 1:09:31pm

re: #100 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The former director also said that @GovAbbott’s decision to send the Texas State Guard to monitor the operation gave Russians proof of the power of such misinformation campaigns.

the champagne was flowing in moscow that night

for my second blazing saddles reference of the day:

“look at this…they’re buyin’ it”

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JordanRules  May 3, 2018 • 1:09:57pm
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KGxvi  May 3, 2018 • 1:10:45pm

re: #110 b.d. (Disposable)

Rand Paul?

Paul is a grandstander that at least has the courage (for lack of a better word) to attempt to explain why he changed his mind despite his alleged principles. Rubio is just a fucking coward who will reverse course if someone in the room even thinks of clearing their throat.

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Bubblehead II  May 3, 2018 • 1:11:10pm

re: #82 ObserverArt

I went with a comment that Lawhawk stated earlier. It seemed everyone agreed it was now a common meme.

Also, since we are talking a bout a wall…it is more appropriate. I think the message is pretty clear either way.

It is. But I am coming from the angle that rethuglicans can’t get over her. Either way works though.

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JordanRules  May 3, 2018 • 1:11:23pm

re: #117 lawhawk

Yeah. It’s a run on sentence, but that’s how the past 24 hours has been.

Ha! So true!

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 1:11:44pm

re: #123 KGxvi

Paul is a grandstander that at least has the courage (for lack of a better word) to attempt to explain why he changed his mind despite his alleged principles. Rubio is just a fucking coward who will reverse course if someone in the room even thinks of clearing their throat.

Yep.

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Teukka  May 3, 2018 • 1:12:17pm

re: #120 Teukka

Aaand here we go again… Nashville, TN:
Police: 4 people shot inside Opry Mills Mall - WSMV News 4

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Unshaken Defiance  May 3, 2018 • 1:12:24pm

re: #101 ObserverArt

So, how long will new Trump lawyer Emmet Flood be a Trump lawyer? The other day I predicted early August and he would be out.

After last night and what we are hearing today…it may even be by tomorrow.

If I was a new lawyer and saw the backdooring that is going on today I’d walk right now. No good can come to his career from this mess.

We have traveled all the way from Drain the Swamp on the campaign trail to Trump lawyer Emmet Flood.

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dangerman  May 3, 2018 • 1:12:25pm

re: #104 JordanRules

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LOL!!!

marco - you’re playing against pros here
(professionals, please)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2018 • 1:12:32pm
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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 1:12:33pm

re: #122 JordanRules

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Give em hell, Father Conroy!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2018 • 1:13:05pm
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JordanRules  May 3, 2018 • 1:14:26pm
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dangerman  May 3, 2018 • 1:15:10pm

re: #116 JordanRules

Sometimes folks in the White House know what they’re saying is false. Other times Trump - or someone else - has told them something untrue

mags - if ” Trump - or someone else - has told them something untrue” and we the public know it, how does the press sec not know it?

and how do you not know it to report it?

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Bubblehead II  May 3, 2018 • 1:17:01pm

Reset the fucking clock.

Nashville police respond to report of shooting at mall

(CNN)Nashville police are responding to reports of a shooting at the Opry Mills shopping mall, law enforcement sources told CNN on Thursday.
One victim has been transported to Skyline Hospital in critical condition, according to tweets from the Nashville Fire Department.
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives tweeted that the agency is responding to the scene.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 3, 2018 • 1:17:52pm

re: #123 KGxvi

Paul is a grandstander that at least has the courage (for lack of a better word) to attempt to explain why he changed his mind despite his alleged principles. Rubio is just a fucking coward who will reverse course if someone in the room even thinks of clearing their throat.

You mean one of them actually has principles? No evidence of that.

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freetoken  May 3, 2018 • 1:18:09pm

re: #134 dangerman

“True” vs “untrue” in the Drumpfepoche is one of those paradoxical puzzles that are brain-teasers one finds on Facebook.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 3, 2018 • 1:21:23pm

re: #137 freetoken

“True” vs “untrue” in the Drumpfepoche is one of those paradoxical puzzles that are brain-teasers one finds on Facebook.

You mean like if SHS said: “Everything I tell you is untrue”

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JordanRules  May 3, 2018 • 1:21:24pm

re: #122 JordanRules

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 1:23:06pm

re: #136 Hecuba’s daughter

You mean one of them actually has principles? No evidence of that.

Alleged principles.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2018 • 1:23:57pm
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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 1:24:15pm

re: #139 JordanRules

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Good. Ryan messed with the wrong Jesuit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 1:24:40pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

Is there a bigger political coward than Rubio?

Lindsey Graham

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JordanRules  May 3, 2018 • 1:25:04pm
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Teukka  May 3, 2018 • 1:25:43pm

re: #142 HappyWarrior

Good. Ryan messed with the wrong Jesuit.

Fr. Conroy is SJ? Don’t tell me the guy is a redhead…
*heads for cover*

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 1:26:11pm

re: #144 JordanRules

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It’s like Rudy forgot all that was done in the mob trials that he got his rep from.

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Belafon  May 3, 2018 • 1:27:12pm

Dick’s is hiring lobbyists to push for more gun regulations” (I can’t copy from it, my browser is having issues with the page).

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 1:28:31pm

re: #145 Teukka

Fr. Conroy is SJ? Don’t tell me the guy is a redhead…
*heads for cover*

Yes and he’s balding. Hair looks like it was a dark red. I actually have an ancestor with his name so Father Pat and my ancestors come from the same part of isle where you’re more likely to encounter black haired peeps than red heads.

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Teukka  May 3, 2018 • 1:30:35pm

re: #148 HappyWarrior

Yes and he’s balding. Hair looks like it was a dark red. I actually have an ancestor with his name so Father Pat and my ancestors come from the same part of isle where you’re more likely to encounter black haired peeps than red heads.

*makes the sign of the cross*
Only thing worse than ticking off an SJ is ticking off a redhead SJ…
This… Has the potential to get interesting in the ancient Chinese curse sense… o.o

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Hecuba's daughter  May 3, 2018 • 1:31:19pm

re: #146 HappyWarrior

It’s like Rudy forgot all that was done in the mob trials that he got his rep from.

Or maybe he showed up only to accept the acclaim and was not particularly familiar with the processes to achieve success. Or it could be early dementia. Or he’s lying.

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lawhawk  May 3, 2018 • 1:31:39pm

re: #144 JordanRules

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Barefoot Grin  May 3, 2018 • 1:32:20pm
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ObserverArt  May 3, 2018 • 1:32:28pm

re: #151 lawhawk

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So, it is actually selective amnesia.

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freetoken  May 3, 2018 • 1:34:23pm

re: #152 Barefoot Grin

Seventy - is that a lot?

Or, does one need a subpoena for each piece of evidence/testimony?

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Belafon  May 3, 2018 • 1:34:47pm

re: #153 ObserverArt

So, it is actually selective amnesia.

I think Rudy’s saying the president is above the law.

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dangerman  May 3, 2018 • 1:35:10pm

re: #152 Barefoot Grin

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Barefoot Grin  May 3, 2018 • 1:35:22pm

re: #154 freetoken

Seventy - is that a lot?

Or, does one need a subpoena for each piece of evidence/testimony?

We need one of our law-taking guys. Comments in the thread seemed to indicate that it’s a lot.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 3, 2018 • 1:36:05pm

re: #106 Eclectic Cyborg

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lawhawk  May 3, 2018 • 1:37:47pm

re: #154 freetoken

Seventy - is that a lot?

Or, does one need a subpoena for each piece of evidence/testimony?

One for each remaining person in Trumpworld. /half.

There can be subpoenas issued for persons to testify. There are subpoenas to produce evidence/materials.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 3, 2018 • 1:39:12pm
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lawhawk  May 3, 2018 • 1:40:18pm

re: #159 lawhawk

And yes, that seems like quite a lot. Then again, it also is hinting at just how wide a net Mueller’s casting to not only go after Manafort, but those connected to him (Trump, hint, hint). It can include demanding from Trump to produce materials relating to Manafort’s employ, pre-employ, and communications relating to that entire time period.

And asking the same from Junior and Ivanka too.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 3, 2018 • 1:43:26pm

re: #160 GlutenFreeJesus

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Don’t bother, she’s a MAGAt.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 3, 2018 • 1:45:12pm
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ObserverArt  May 3, 2018 • 1:49:17pm

Since often The Godfather scenes are used to explain the Trump mess…will there be a time where one of the lawyers visits Paul Manafort and reprises the Tom Hagen visits Frank Pentangeli scene and asks Manafort to do like the Romans did in the old days?

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dangerman  May 3, 2018 • 1:49:30pm

re: #163 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The lack of male spaces in our culture begins in the home, where a man is often forced to set up his “man cave” in the garage or the basement if he wants any space to himself in the home he owns and pays for.

Kristen Schaal

@kristenschaaled
This man sounds like a dick.

who says he owns it?
who says he “pays for” it?

if a man feels somehow “forced” to do this, the problem isnt with “space”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2018 • 1:49:44pm
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Belafon  May 3, 2018 • 1:51:53pm

re: #166 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

There are lots of people, on many different fronts, fighting these people. We must continue to do our jobs to tell them off as well.

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Mike Lamb  May 3, 2018 • 1:52:05pm

re: #160 GlutenFreeJesus

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And it’s people like this that will doom our country.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 1:53:10pm

re: #168 Mike Lamb

And it’s people like this that will doom our country.

The people that get them to think that are even worse.

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Single-handed sailor  May 3, 2018 • 1:58:35pm

Wow, Neil Cavuto is calling out Trump for saying things that aren’t accurate. I’m pretty sure he avoided saying lie.

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whitebeach  May 3, 2018 • 2:02:19pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Sometimes I suspect this whole last two years has been a really bad acid flashback.

Jesus, Charles, your flashbacks must be a hell of a lot worse than mine.

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KGxvi  May 3, 2018 • 2:03:33pm

re: #163 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The lack of male spaces in our culture begins in the home, where a man is often forced to set up his “man cave” in the garage or the basement if he wants any space to himself in the home he owns and pays for.

This needs to be broken down, because it is some highly enriched retrograde derptitude.

First, there are not male spaces or female spaces in our culture, other than possibly bathrooms and locker rooms. There is only space, where we are all free to move about, if we so choose. That, after all, is what a free society looks like.

Second, nobody is forced to set up a man cave. Hell, many people don’t have the spare room/garage/basement to set up a man cave. And if someone chooses to set up a man cave in one of those rooms, it is, again, their choice. They are choosing to remove themselves from the shared spaces in the rest of the house. And let’s be clear when you choose to live with someone else, particularly a spouse, it is all shared space.

Third, it is quite presumptuous to think that only the man pays for the house. Beyond the fact that many/most women work outside the home; realistically, in this market you can’t buy a house without two incomes.

Fourth, I get that you sometimes need time/space to yourself. But if you need feel the need to constantly escape your family, might I suggest contacting a divorce attorney, because obviously being a husband isn’t quite working out for you.

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ObserverArt  May 3, 2018 • 2:04:58pm

Michael Avenatti just said on Nicole Wallace’s show that a lawyer never wants to use the word “funnel” when speaking about how payments were made.

Heh. I thought of that last night too…a cringe word.

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dangerman  May 3, 2018 • 2:08:34pm

re: #173 ObserverArt

Michael Avenatti just said on Nicole Wallace’s show that a lawyer never wants to use the word “funnel” when speaking about how payments were made.

Heh. I thought of that last night too…a cringe word.

funnel / launder - six of one….

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dangerman  May 3, 2018 • 2:12:01pm

“What about the money, Patron?”

“Launder it”

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freetoken  May 3, 2018 • 2:15:07pm

re: #174 dangerman

More evidence that English is infinitely mutable and that we live in a simulated universe:

Anagram of “funnel launder” is… Funner All Nude.

Just ask Trump if that is true.

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Patricia Kayden  May 3, 2018 • 2:15:47pm
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ObserverArt  May 3, 2018 • 2:16:52pm

re: #174 dangerman

funnel / launder - six of one….

Eggs Ackley agrees!
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Hecuba's daughter  May 3, 2018 • 2:19:54pm

Funnel is either the word Trump used in describing the process to Giuliani or else it’s the word Giuliani uses when he performs Cohen services for his own clients

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jeffreyw  May 3, 2018 • 2:20:09pm
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makeitstop  May 3, 2018 • 2:22:09pm

re: #180 jeffreyw

NBC has now retracted its “scoop” about a wiretap.

I can hear the cries of ‘fake news’ starting already.

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TedStriker  May 3, 2018 • 2:22:46pm

re: #135 Bubblehead II

Reset the fucking clock.

Nashville police respond to report of shooting at mall

(CNN)Nashville police are responding to reports of a shooting at the Opry Mills shopping mall, law enforcement sources told CNN on Thursday.
One victim has been transported to Skyline Hospital in critical condition, according to tweets from the Nashville Fire Department.
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives tweeted that the agency is responding to the scene.

A little too close to home for me: my mom works for Marriott at the Gaylord Opryland Hotel in the hotel’s commissary way at the opposite end of the property from the mall (probably about a half-mile away) and my brother was on his way to go get her from work when all of this was going down. Watching the local TV news video and from what my brother and mom were saying, the whole area, almost a couple of square miles enveloping the mall, all of the adjacent Gaylord Opryland Hotel property, plus five nearby schools, including two on my side of the river well away from the mall, was locked down tight and fast and still mostly is, even after Metro said they’ve got the suspect; my brother was able to get through the PD roadblocks to get her and one of her co-workers that needed a way out, because her own ride was stuck waiting for her kids at one of the nearby schools that were also locked-down during this.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 3, 2018 • 2:22:56pm

re: #180 jeffreyw

So no tapes? Sigh. I was so looking forward to hearing them!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2018 • 2:24:28pm
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dangerman  May 3, 2018 • 2:26:08pm

re: #176 freetoken

More evidence that English is infinitely mutable and that we live in a simulated universe:

Anagram of “funnel launder” is… Funner All Nude.

Just ask Trump if that is true.

anagrams stump me.
how did you get there so fast?
do you just “see” it?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 3, 2018 • 2:27:48pm

re: #184 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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“Oh! That’s very different, then…”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 3, 2018 • 2:29:11pm

re: #100 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I called this at the time. The claims appeared in RT and Sputnik well before Alex Jones and the Texas GOP picked them up. The following dog pile is where I get my often-questioned, but never refuted, idea that the Russians own the conspiracy industry, and have direct influence down to the state and local level. They have been cultivating both since at least as early as 2009 and the start of the Obama administration. Hayden’s assertion that this success encouraged the Russians to interfere in the electoral process is certainly interesting and matches up well with the events.
I believe that Mueller’s investigation is taking so long because it is much larger than commonly realized, though still well within his legal mandate. I would not be surprised if there are thousands of indictments before it is over.

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TedStriker  May 3, 2018 • 2:30:19pm

re: #182 TedStriker

Annnd, the sole victim is now dead.

Apparently, the perp and victim knew each other and that this may have been a personal beef.

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ckkatz  May 3, 2018 • 2:31:02pm

On twitter today someone (Hoarse Whisperer? Caroline O?) mentioned that Giuliani’s purpose was to get out in front of the news and let Trump’s base know that the charges are serious. And that Trump’s ‘braintrust’ is planning on legal/political war.

I strongly suspect that DOJ was already well aware of the information released by Giuliani.

Two things that interest me are the time frame of the warfare with respect to the midterms. And whether this major swerve of Trump’s will shake off any of his base.

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freetoken  May 3, 2018 • 2:32:57pm

re: #185 dangerman

The internet is my friend.

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gocart mozart  May 3, 2018 • 2:34:02pm
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JordanRules  May 3, 2018 • 2:35:51pm
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freetoken  May 3, 2018 • 2:36:29pm

re: #189 ckkatz

Trump has been waging an ideological war ever since he got interested in politics. He has always, always been about elevating himself over the United States, it’s history and laws.

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JordanRules  May 3, 2018 • 2:40:13pm
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freetoken  May 3, 2018 • 2:44:44pm

re: #194 JordanRules

Is not providing public relations services for a person who is campaigning equivalent to a campaign donation?

Thus Cohen doing the hush-service for Trump during the campaign is a contribution, no?

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ObserverArt  May 3, 2018 • 2:45:02pm

re: #194 JordanRules

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Keep talking Rudy, you’re doing a heck of a job.

At this pace you will wrap this whole thing up pretty damn quick!

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ObserverArt  May 3, 2018 • 2:48:48pm

re: #195 freetoken

Is not providing public relations services for a person who is campaigning equivalent to a campaign donation?

Thus Cohen doing the hush-service for Trump during the campaign is a contribution, no?

Yes, and I bet Rudy knows it too.

It seems Trump and Gang are selling a lot of scenarios to their ignorant base. We see how they buy everything as a legit explanation.

It will become gospel and then the base will raise hell when anything happens to Trump.

They hope to scream and act their way out of this mess by scaring and bullying Mueller and Democrats, and even any Republican that might consider action against Trump.

It is how he got elected, it is how he thinks he will escape.

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KGxvi  May 3, 2018 • 2:49:59pm

re: #194 JordanRules

The average hourly rate for an attorney in New York is about $775 an hour. Assuming Trump paid Cohen $460k total, less the settlement amount, that leaves $330k in legal fees. That works out to 425+ hours at $775/hour.

Cohen is a sole practitioner, so that means he would have had to log 425 hours by himself on the case at that rate. That would be 80 hours a week for 5 weeks. Even if Trump were his only client, and this was his only case, there’s no way that makes any kind of sense given the nature of the agreement.

Even if you put Cohen’s rate at $1500/hour, you’re still looking at over 200 hours on this settlement. And having read the settlement, that is not the sort of document that took 200 hours to draft.

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KGxvi  May 3, 2018 • 2:51:05pm

re: #193 freetoken

Trump has been waging an ideological war ever since he got interested in politics. He has always, always been about elevating himself over the United States, it’s history and laws.

Trump has always been about elevating himself over everything, even before he got into politics. That’s why he insisted on putting his name on every cotdam endeavor he undertook

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dangerman  May 3, 2018 • 2:51:09pm

re: #190 freetoken

The internet is my friend.

ah

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 3, 2018 • 2:53:15pm

The responses to this Tweet are completely deranged.

Too many people think the 1st amendment means that private businesses owe everyone a platform.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 3, 2018 • 2:54:20pm

re: #201 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Not everyone…just the people they’re comfortable with.

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gocart mozart  May 3, 2018 • 2:56:04pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 3, 2018 • 2:56:50pm

re: #202 The Ghost of a Flea

Not everyone…just the people they’re comfortable with.

There are people there claiming they hate Spencer, but that shutting him down is somehow fascist or authoritarian. I doubt their sincerity, but they could be genuinely stupid.

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dangerman  May 3, 2018 • 3:01:49pm

re: #194 JordanRules

“After the campaign is over, they set up a reimbursement, $35K a month, out of his personal family account,” Giuliani said, adding that over all, Cohen was paid $460,000 or $470,000 from Trump through the payments, including for “incidental expenses.”

i think ted’s mistaken in his interpretation
payments including for incidental.., not only for

that means some of that 460k was fees for professional services - ie income to cohen
did he report it and pay taxes?
was there paperwork supporting the payments? did cohen bill trump? did the trump disbursements have notations? ie how much was fees and how much expenses? if not, then it’s all fees
if there was documentation, then trump was assuming responsibility and ownership for the 130k

the money was disbursed to daniels before the election - did trump know about it?
if not, if cohen shielded him, then cohen had to report it as an in kind contribution
if trump knew, well then…..

and still i want to know how both the 130k deposit and the payment to daniels were reported on the books and tax returns of the delaware LLC

there are a myriad - ok maybe 10 ways to breach this thing

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dangerman  May 3, 2018 • 3:03:50pm

re: #199 KGxvi

Trump has always been about elevating himself over everything, even before he got into politics. That’s why he insisted on putting his name on every cotdam endeavor he undertook

and inflating his net worth - to not only “make the list”, but to dominate it

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KGxvi  May 3, 2018 • 3:07:09pm

So, this happened:

Twitter has recommended its 336 million users change their passwords.
The company announced on Thursday it discovered a bug that saved user passwords unprotected on an internal log.

Twitter said it has since fixed the issue. Although the company said there is no evidence passwords have been leaked or misused, it is urging its users to update their passwords.

“As a precaution, consider changing your password on all services where you’ve used this password,” the company tweeted.

And then I went on twitter and realized it might be the most difficult app on which to change a password. As in, I still haven’t figured out how to change my password.

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unproven innocence  May 3, 2018 • 3:08:13pm

To whom it may concern: May 3, 2018 / 8:03 PM / Updated 21 minutes ago
Twitter urges all users to change passwords after glitch - Jim Finkle

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wrenchwench  May 3, 2018 • 3:09:29pm
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goddamnedfrank  May 3, 2018 • 3:10:38pm
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whitebeach  May 3, 2018 • 3:12:15pm

re: #208 unproven innocence

To whom it may concern: May 3, 2018 / 8:03 PM / Updated 21 minutes ago
Twitter urges all users to change passwords after glitch - Jim Finkle

Hardly a week passes without me feeling grateful to myself for never having signed on to either Twitter or Facebook.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 3:12:30pm

re: #210 goddamnedfrank

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Double standard douchebag.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 3:13:14pm

re: #203 gocart mozart

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I’d love to see what Krang’s actual joke was because I reckon it’s pretty tame compared to the stuff Paul likes.

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Barefoot Grin  May 3, 2018 • 3:13:34pm

re: #210 goddamnedfrank

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“Most people don’t care.” Most people can’t even name their governor.

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dangerman  May 3, 2018 • 3:14:44pm

re: #210 goddamnedfrank

I don’t really care about the Stormy Daniels thing. I believe it all happened & don’t condone it, but it’s basically on-brand Trump sleaze. This is who we elected. Polling on this drama shows most people don’t care either & POTUS’ job approval #’s are up…

when you say you believe it “all” happened does that include the felonies?

because your “not caring” translates to “it’s ok to commit felonies if you’re trump, or a republican”

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goddamnedfrank  May 3, 2018 • 3:15:11pm

re: #207 KGxvi

So, this happened:

And then I went on twitter and realized it might be the most difficult app on which to change a password. As in, I still haven’t figured out how to change my password.

On the website it’s: Click on your avi in the upper right, it will show “Profile and settings” if you hover your mouse over it. -> Click on Password on the left hand side of the page.

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KGxvi  May 3, 2018 • 3:16:21pm

re: #216 goddamnedfrank

On the website it’s: Click on your avi in the upper right, it will show “Profile and settings” if you hover your mouse over it. -> Click on Password on the left hand side of the page.

Thank you, was trying to do it on the app and couldn’t figure it out

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dangerman  May 3, 2018 • 3:17:16pm

re: #216 goddamnedfrank

On the website it’s: Click on your avi in the upper right, it will show “Profile and settings” if you hover your mouse over it. -> Click on Password on the left hand side of the page.

its so intuitive..
just go to lgf for techincal support and they’ll explain it to you

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goddamnedfrank  May 3, 2018 • 3:17:24pm

re: #217 KGxvi

Thank you, was trying to do it on the app and couldn’t figure it out

On the app it’s -> Throw your phone at the nearest bird while screaming your new password.

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Barefoot Grin  May 3, 2018 • 3:17:41pm

I guess this is why so many of the twitter feeds I skim aren’t accessible right now.

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goddamnedfrank  May 3, 2018 • 3:20:23pm

re: #219 goddamnedfrank

On the app it’s -> Throw your phone at the nearest bird while screaming your new password.

Seriously though I just checked and to change it on the app click on your avi in the upper left -> Click on “Settings and privacy” -> Click on “Account” -> Click on “Change password”

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The Major  May 3, 2018 • 3:23:09pm

re: #109 JordanRules

Barry Ritholtz has broken his long-standing rule of not making a prediction - he now says BRExit will fail with 75% odds.

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KGxvi  May 3, 2018 • 3:23:16pm

re: #215 dangerman

when you say you believe it “all” happened” does that include the felonies?

because your “not caring” translates to “it’s ok to commit felonies if you’re trump, or a republican”

I don’t care that Trump, prior to being president, had an affair (or more likely: multiple affairs). I don’t even necessarily care that he and the woman (ore more likely: women) signed an NDA.

I do care that said payments were not disclosed during campaign as in kind contributions. But on my outrage meter, “campaign finance violation to cover up affair” generates about a 0.05.

What I care about by several orders of magnitude is Trump’s apparent dealings with a foreign government to tilt the election in his favor. I care about Trump’s disregard for the rule of law and attempts to obstruct justice. I care about Trump’s chumminess with dictators and aversion to our allies from democratic nations. I care about Trump’s attempts to destroy norms and undermine institutions in order to hold onto power. I also care about his policies that are designed to wreck the global economy even if he doesn’t realize it.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 3, 2018 • 3:23:58pm

re: #201 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The responses to this Tweet are completely deranged.

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Too many people think the 1st amendment means that private businesses owe everyone a platform.

Constitutional Outhouse Law.
Here is an example from the county seat of Idiocracy, Lubbock:

Facebook Post

Contrast this with Dr. Don’s treatment of Michelle Wolf:

Facebook Post

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KGxvi  May 3, 2018 • 3:25:28pm

re: #221 goddamnedfrank

Seriously though I just checked and to change it on the app click on your avi in the upper left -> Click on “Settings and privacy” -> Click on “Account” -> Click on “Change password”

“Change password” doesn’t show on my app.

I suppose I should probably update the app anyway.

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freetoken  May 3, 2018 • 3:26:26pm

re: #223 KGxvi

But on my outrage meter, “campaign finance violation to cover up affair” generates about a 0.05.

Well, my meter underwent recalibration when Trump was running for winning the nomination, then was recalibrated again when he was elected.

So yeah, paying off multiple mistresses doesn’t seem to mean as much anymore.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 3:30:18pm

re: #224 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Constitutional Outhouse Law.
Here is an example from the county seat of Idiocracy, Lubbock:

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Something tells me he didn’t think Kanye was a fine young man when Kanye was saying Bush didn’t care about black people and a filthy mouthed socialist. Lol hold on to your momocle, Donnie.

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ObserverArt  May 3, 2018 • 3:30:24pm

re: #226 freetoken

Well, my meter underwent recalibration when Trump was running for winning the nomination, then was recalibrated again when he was elected.

So yeah, paying off multiple mistresses doesn’t seem to mean as much anymore.

“I had sex with that woman”

So what, what you going to about it?

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The Major  May 3, 2018 • 3:30:47pm

re: #141 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Hecuba's daughter  May 3, 2018 • 3:31:50pm

re: #223 KGxvi

I don’t care that Trump, prior to being president, had an affair (or more likely: multiple affairs). I don’t even necessarily care that he and the woman (ore more likely: women) signed an NDA.

I do care that said payments were not disclosed during campaign as in kind contributions. But on my outrage meter, “campaign finance violation to cover up affair” generates about a 0.05.

What I care about by several orders of magnitude is Trump’s apparent dealings with a foreign government to tilt the election in his favor. I care about Trump’s disregard for the rule of law and attempts to obstruct justice. I care about Trump’s chumminess with dictators and aversion to our allies from democratic nations. I care about Trump’s attempts to destroy norms and undermine institutions in order to hold onto power. I also care about his policies that are designed to wreck the global economy even if he doesn’t realize it.

I also care about money laundering activities in years past, prior to his run for office. I am tired of the wealthy escaping real punishment for their flouting of the law and, even if detected, escaping with a financial penalty. If it is shown that Trump engaged in those activities, I want to see him in prison though that is not likely to ever happen “for the good of the country”.

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KGxvi  May 3, 2018 • 3:33:39pm

re: #226 freetoken

Well, my meter underwent recalibration when Trump was running for winning the nomination, then was recalibrated again when he was elected.

So yeah, paying off multiple mistresses doesn’t seem to mean as much anymore.

I’m honestly not even sure I would have cared if this had happened to some other politician before 2016.

In previous sex scandals the issue has been either been abusing the power of the office (a typically bipartisan affair) or hypocrisy (typically a Republican specialty). Which is why I feel like the Stormy Daniels story is the least relevant issue in Trump’s coming downfall.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 3, 2018 • 3:41:25pm

Yikes!
Mystery serial pooper on high school’s property turns out to be superintendent
Just to clarify, he is not superintendent of the district where the offensive offense occurred but of a neighboring district. He has been granted paid leave from his 147K year job.

Addendum:
In a way, I, for one, am glad to see that Jersey Man has stepped up (or squatted down as it were) to take some of the media home-of-the-crazy pressure off Texas Man and Florida Man.

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Dave In Austin  May 3, 2018 • 3:42:13pm
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gocart mozart  May 3, 2018 • 3:42:31pm
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gocart mozart  May 3, 2018 • 3:43:12pm
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gocart mozart  May 3, 2018 • 3:43:50pm

Give your suggestion in the comments

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gocart mozart  May 3, 2018 • 3:44:39pm
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William Lewis  May 3, 2018 • 3:48:11pm

Ok, now this is just too much fun. A new Céline Dion song from the Deadpool 2 soundtrack.

Céline Dion - Ashes (from the Deadpool 2 Motion Picture Soundtrack)

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KGxvi  May 3, 2018 • 3:48:51pm

re: #233 Dave In Austin

Some help for the Vice President: the next time will be the first time.

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gocart mozart  May 3, 2018 • 3:50:10pm

Charle Pierce esquire.com
I am fairly sure that Dunking On Paul Ryan is not one of the Ignatian Spiritual Exercises, but maybe it ought to be. It certainly feels good. The zombie-eyed granny starver from the state of Wisconsin has been reminded, time and time again, of one of the shebeen’s most important rules.

Do. Not. Fck. With. The. Society.

Last week, you may recall, news broke that, back in April, the Speaker’s office ousted congressional chaplain Fr. Pat Conroy, S-freaking-J, for a prayer that was insufficiently grounded in the Gospel According to Art Laffer. Conroy resigned. On Thursday, he un-resigned, with a bang. From Politico:

While you never spoke with me in person, nor did you send me any correspondence, on Friday, April 13th, 2018, your Chief of Staff, Jonathan Burks, came to me and informed me that you were asking for my letter of resignation. I inquired as to whether or not it was “for cause,” and Mr. Burks mentioned dismissively something like “maybe it’s time that we had a Chaplain that wasn’t a Catholic.” He also mentioned my November prayer and an interview with the National Journal Daily.

He just called you out as a gutless weasel, Mister Speaker.

Recently, on April 27, you publicly indicated that my “pastoral services” to some Members were lacking and that I did not offer adequate “spiritual counseling” to others. This is not the reason that Mr. Burks gave me when asking for my “resignation.” In fact, no such criticism has ever been leveled against me during my tenure as House Chaplain.

He just called you out as a gutless liar, Mister Speaker.

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freetoken  May 3, 2018 • 3:51:35pm

re: #240 gocart mozart

No one ever expects the Spanish Inquisition.

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Dave In Austin  May 3, 2018 • 3:53:00pm

re: #241 freetoken

No one ever expects the Spanish Inquisition.

Winning!

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Ace Rothstein  May 3, 2018 • 3:59:27pm
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Targetpractice  May 3, 2018 • 4:00:04pm

re: #234 gocart mozart

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Translation: I’m too chickenshit to stand up for anyone but myself, so I decided Padre had to go so I didn’t have to deal with the Cult of Rand in my own fucking caucus.

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ObserverArt  May 3, 2018 • 4:00:23pm

What, did people forget a Catholic priest can be very political?

Being in Catholic Grade and High School at the end of the 60s taught me that one : )

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Ace Rothstein  May 3, 2018 • 4:01:37pm

I watched that Hannity interview with Rudy G last night. The old man has clearly lost his fastball.

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ObserverArt  May 3, 2018 • 4:02:34pm

re: #246 Ace Rothstein

I watched that Hannity interview with Rudy G last night. The old man has clearly lost his fastball.

How old is Sean?

Heh.

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gocart mozart  May 3, 2018 • 4:03:50pm
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freetoken  May 3, 2018 • 4:04:35pm

re: #248 gocart mozart

What in the world did I just watch

Life in the idiocracy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 4:07:08pm

re: #231 KGxvi

I’m honestly not even sure I would have cared if this had happened to some other politician before 2016.

In previous sex scandals the issue has been either been abusing the power of the office (a typically bipartisan affair) or hypocrisy (typically a Republican specialty). Which is why I feel like the Stormy Daniels story is the least relevant issue in Trump’s coming downfall.

OTOH, it would appear that Stormy Daniels is the catalyst that will result in the downfall.
The tiny sneeze, if you will, that started the avalanche.

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KGxvi  May 3, 2018 • 4:08:44pm

re: #248 gocart mozart

That’s Jon Lovitz or some other comedian in some sort of Andy Kaufman/Tony Clifton long con bit, right? Like that’s not a real person, right?

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freetoken  May 3, 2018 • 4:08:51pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

OTOH, it would appear that Stormy Daniels is the catalyst that will result in the downfall.
The tiny sneeze, if you will, that started the avalanche.

The other civil lawsuit, which I keep bringing up even though I forget the details, certainly has to be in play, no?

Isn’t there a very, very good likelihood that since Cohen did the hush agreement with Stormy then he is also the one who did it with the other woman (women)?

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ObserverArt  May 3, 2018 • 4:11:35pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

OTOH, it would appear that Stormy Daniels is the catalyst that will result in the downfall.
The tiny sneeze, if you will, that started the avalanche.

And we still have no clue what Mueller is going to find and how he will compose his report.

Trump is in a vice.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 4:11:47pm

re: #248 gocart mozart

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watched a man who killed 29 miners, went to prison, but then got forgiven because NRA! NRA! NRA!

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Ace Rothstein  May 3, 2018 • 4:13:11pm

Avenatti: “Rudy is clearly not ready for primetime.”

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ipsos  May 3, 2018 • 4:16:27pm

All I wanted to do was refill the propane tank for my grill. I really didn’t need the teenage kid at the gas station going on at me for five solid minutes about how “England is going to ban knives because they already banned guns and soon we’ll all be living in a prison.”

Especially not with my kid right there with me.

Grrrrrr.

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gocart mozart  May 3, 2018 • 4:18:12pm

I would like to confess to a murder

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 4:20:15pm

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

watched a man who killed 29 miners, went to prison, but then got forgiven because NRA! NRA! NRA!

ETA: forgot the standard IOKIYAR

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 4:21:28pm

re: #257 gocart mozart

I would like to confess to a murder

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The party of Helms doesn’t have any room to talk about Byrd especially that Byrd apologized and Helms never did. Nice own tho.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 4:22:29pm

re: #248 gocart mozart

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JFC.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 3, 2018 • 4:22:33pm

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

ETA: forgot the standard IOKIYAR

Coal miners exist to be trotted out as sentimental touchstones for politicians advancing cynical money grabs. It’s not like they’re real people.//

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 4:24:39pm

re: #261 The Ghost of a Flea

Coal miners exist to be trotted out as sentimental touchstones for politicians advancing cynical money grabs. It’s not like they’re real people.//

My family has tons of men who were miners. I think if they were here with us, they’d like to see Blankenship behind bars.

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ObserverArt  May 3, 2018 • 4:26:04pm

re: #261 The Ghost of a Flea

Coal miners exist to be trotted out as sentimental touchstones for politicians advancing cynical money grabs. It’s not like they’re real people.//

Much like the coal they mine, they are a source of energy to be sold and burned.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 3, 2018 • 4:29:08pm
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Ace Rothstein  May 3, 2018 • 4:29:48pm

Bug-eyed mayor: “We’ll allow Mueller a 2.5 hour interview with Trump because that’s what (Pres.) Clinton got.”

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MsJ  May 3, 2018 • 4:32:43pm

Dying!

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jeffreyw  May 3, 2018 • 4:39:02pm
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EPR-radar  May 3, 2018 • 4:39:12pm

re: #233 Dave In Austin

Trump being heavily into prayer is indeed bullshit of the highest order, even from a Republican (i.e., professional bullshit producer).

Unless, of course, the prayer is written for Trump by a bootlicker and runs something like this:

Our Master who art in Trump Tower, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily abuse; and forgive us our trespasses for consideration, as we forgive those who trespass against us; and lead us into temptation, and deliver us to evil.

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Amory Blaine  May 3, 2018 • 4:39:20pm
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Barefoot Grin  May 3, 2018 • 4:39:48pm

re: #257 gocart mozart

I would like to confess to a murder

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Damn, that looks a lot like Henry Ford’s Dearborn Independent.

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freetoken  May 3, 2018 • 4:42:09pm

So I went to Wikipedia, who now have entire entries for Trump’s legal problems, one for him as a person, one for him as the occupier of the office of the President.

Indeed, there is a whole entry dedicated to the Stormy Daniels affair.

And there is a whole entry for nothing but Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations

So I went and looked for what I think is tickling my memory… and still can’t find it. Perhaps I’m suffering from false memory?

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meteor  May 3, 2018 • 4:43:53pm
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EPR-radar  May 3, 2018 • 4:45:05pm

re: #272 meteor

These bird tweets are more coherent than the drivel that Trump produces on Twitter.

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meteor  May 3, 2018 • 4:45:37pm

re: #273 EPR-radar

Aww, thank you. :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 4:48:11pm

re: #262 HappyWarrior

My family has tons of men who were miners. I think if they were here with us, they’d like to see Blankenship behind bars.

he was behind bars.

it was apparently just a short vacation/GOP rehabilitation

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freetoken  May 3, 2018 • 4:50:54pm

So, here’s a question or two:

Who were Trump’s other lawyers, before he was sworn in?

And certainly Cohen couldn’t have been Trump’s first lawyer - Trump has been doing his gig for over 40 years. So, who were Trump’s previous lawyers?

I wonder what they have?

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gocart mozart  May 3, 2018 • 4:52:17pm
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Ace Rothstein  May 3, 2018 • 4:52:42pm

re: #276 freetoken

Roy Cohn was his heavyweight, but he’s been dead for 30+ years.

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The Major  May 3, 2018 • 4:53:23pm

re: #276 freetoken

So, who were Trump’s previous lawyers?

You could probably field two football teams with the number of ex-lawyers, starting with the very late Roy “Donald pisses Ice water!” Cohn -Trump’s first fixer…

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JordanRules  May 3, 2018 • 4:59:18pm

re: #271 freetoken

So I went to Wikipedia, who now have entire entries for Trump’s legal problems, one for him as a person, one for him as the occupier of the office of the President.

Indeed, there is a whole entry dedicated to the Stormy Daniels affair.

And there is a whole entry for nothing but Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations

So I went and looked for what I think is tickling my memory… and still can’t find it. Perhaps I’m suffering from false memory?

The case involving Summer Zervos who was an Apprentice contestant is the one I think you’re thinking of.

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 4:59:44pm

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

he was behind bars.

it was apparently just a short vacation/GOP rehabilitation

That’s what I mean. He should still be there not running for the Senate.

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freetoken  May 3, 2018 • 4:59:57pm

re: #280 JordanRules

The case involving Summer Zervos who was an Apprentice contestant is the one I think you’re thinking of.

Probably.

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Jack Burton  May 3, 2018 • 5:00:28pm

re: #248 gocart mozart

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Dude “China People” is not the preferred nomenclature…

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gocart mozart  May 3, 2018 • 5:02:36pm
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The Vicious Babushka  May 3, 2018 • 5:03:00pm

WTF
I read this sentence like 10 times and I can’t figure out what the fuck she said.

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freetoken  May 3, 2018 • 5:03:29pm

Anyway, it seems to me that the revelations of the past 2 days really moves the credibility of whether Trump is guilty of (some or all) of those other allegations into a definite positive territory.

His follower are in denial, but if I were sitting on a jury and someone before me was a defendant who admitted to being guilty to a particular accusation and then I had to rule on a similar accusation, I’d definitely be swayed by the previous admittance that said accused did it more than once.

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Jack Burton  May 3, 2018 • 5:04:47pm

re: #285 The Vicious Babushka

TL;DR: “I’m a idiot and a traitor and I also don’t understand the constitution. I’m basically Trump.”

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Single-handed sailor  May 3, 2018 • 5:05:05pm

re: #285 The Vicious Babushka

Maybe she’s referring to the quartering of troops.

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MsJ  May 3, 2018 • 5:06:00pm

re: #280 JordanRules

The case involving Summer Zervos who was an Apprentice contestant is the one I think you’re thinking of.

Who just got a subpoena for all NBC recordings that in any way relate to sex.

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Teukka  May 3, 2018 • 5:06:30pm

re: #287 Jack Burton

TL;DR: “I’m a idiot and a traitor and I also don’t understand the constitution. I’m basically Trump.”

Isn’t she basically in contempt of Congress? Do I misremember, or isn’t that a crime?

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JordanRules  May 3, 2018 • 5:06:39pm
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The Major  May 3, 2018 • 5:12:13pm

Scout probably knows all about this latest MLB import…
Japan Times: Shohei Ohtani’s MLB fireworks wow Japanese baseball world

The Hokkaido Nippon Ham Fighters were busy preparing to face the Chiba Lotte Marines on Saturday afternoon when the events happening at Angel Stadium in Anaheim, California, reached the visitors’ clubhouse at Zozo Marine Stadium in Chiba.

Shohei Ohtani, their former teammate who is in his first season in MLB, had just hit another home run for the Los Angeles Angels.

“I know, I just showed all the guys,” third baseman Brandon Laird said excitedly after finishing up in the batting cage.

In the dugout, reporters pulled out their phones to check for video of Ohtani’s fourth MLB homer. On Twitter, former Fighters pitcher Anthony Bass, now a Chicago Cub, was incredulous. “Ummmmm … . . how???” he tweeted over a clip of Ohtani turning on a 97-mph (156-kph) inside fastball from New York Yankees pitcher Luis Severino.

Fighters pitcher Naoyuki Uwasawa was caught unaware.

“He hit one?” a surprised Uwasawa asked. “Wow, amazing.”

That’s pretty much been everybody else’s reaction, too.

What else is there to say about a player who can throw 101 mph (162.5 kph) on the mound, the fastest pitch by a starter in the majors this season, multiple times on Tuesday and then muscle out a big league fastball an estimated 410 feet (125 meters) on Friday?

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Sea Mexican!  May 3, 2018 • 5:12:50pm

re: #198 KGxvi

The average hourly rate for an attorney in New York is about $775 an hour. Assuming Trump paid Cohen $460k total, less the settlement amount, that leaves $330k in legal fees. That works out to 425+ hours at $775/hour.

Cohen is a sole practitioner, so that means he would have had to log 425 hours by himself on the case at that rate. That would be 80 hours a week for 5 weeks. Even if Trump were his only client, and this was his only case, there’s no way that makes any kind of sense given the nature of the agreement.

Even if you put Cohen’s rate at $1500/hour, you’re still looking at over 200 hours on this settlement. And having read the settlement, that is not the sort of document that took 200 hours to draft.

A brain fart I just had …

If we assume that every settlement involves a $130k payout, that’s three settlements, and dividing the remaining by $775 (the usual rate), it works out to 90 hours of work total, or 30 hours per settlement. That’s a bit more reasonable.

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EPR-radar  May 3, 2018 • 5:13:10pm

re: #289 MsJ

Who just got a subpoena for all NBC recordings that in any way relate to sex.

Gee, I have no idea what I’ll do if a massive number of Trump NDAs get pierced by a court order. Die of schadenfreude?

295
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 5:15:21pm

re: #283 Jack Burton

Dude “China People” is not the preferred nomenclature…

after you’re responsible for 29 deaths (at least those we know about), nothing else matters anymore…

*spit*

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The Vicious Babushka  May 3, 2018 • 5:18:22pm

WUT? NO.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 5:18:31pm

oooh!!!!!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 5:19:25pm

re: #296 The Vicious Babushka

WUT? NO.

[Embedded content]

AND!
Rudy said last night that it’s THE SAME KIND OF THING HE DOES FOR HIS OWN CLIENTS!

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EPR-radar  May 3, 2018 • 5:19:57pm

re: #296 The Vicious Babushka

WUT? NO.

[Embedded content]

This isn’t how normal lawyers operate. It is exactly how fixers for mob bosses operate.

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Targetpractice  May 3, 2018 • 5:20:52pm

re: #296 The Vicious Babushka

WUT? NO.

[Embedded content]

Yeah, no, there’s no judge in the world who is going to buy that shit. “My client knew nothing about the arrangement, didn’t know what his money was going towards, didn’t sign the NDA at all, BUT it’s totally valid because he now wants to enforce it.” is not a valid legal argument, it’s a legal Hail Mary that’s gonna fall way short.

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Targetpractice  May 3, 2018 • 5:21:31pm

re: #299 EPR-radar

This isn’t how normal lawyers operate. It is exactly how fixers for mob bosses operate.

“Make this go away. I don’t want to know the specifics, the less I know, the better. But I want it done and I don’t want it to come back to me.”

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The Major  May 3, 2018 • 5:22:42pm

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rudy said last night that it’s THE SAME KIND OF THING HE DOES FOR HIS OWN CLIENTS!

Eric Sniderman and the New York Bar Association, please pick up the white Courtesy Phone….

303
EPR-radar  May 3, 2018 • 5:23:18pm

re: #300 Targetpractice

Yeah, no, there’s no judge in the world who is going to buy that shit. “My client knew nothing about the arrangement, didn’t know what his money was going towards, didn’t sign the NDA at all, BUT it’s totally valid because he now wants to enforce it.” is not a valid legal argument, it’s a legal Hail Mary that’s gonna fall way short.

Here’s something that needs to happen in the legal world: a class action suit seeking to invalidate every Trumpco NDA. All of them. In one shot. Basically on the grounds that Trump is such a piece of shit he can’t engage in a legally binding contract.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 5:24:01pm
305
Belafon  May 3, 2018 • 5:24:52pm

re: #285 The Vicious Babushka

WTF
I read this sentence like 10 times and I can’t figure out what the fuck she said.

[Embedded content]

Allow me to translate: “Mueller needs to stop before he finds out what I’ve been up to.”

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JordanRules  May 3, 2018 • 5:29:47pm
307
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 5:30:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 5:32:24pm
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gocart mozart  May 3, 2018 • 5:33:12pm
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mmmirele  May 3, 2018 • 5:33:21pm

And if you didn’t think YouTube was a sewer of horrible content…

Alt-Right Grifter ‘Baked Alaska’ Is Plotting A Comeback On YouTube

*snip*

The “Ice Poseidon” channel, which has more than half a million YouTube subscribers, often live streams derogatory clickbait content aimed at an audience that often presents itself as “ironically” racist.The main figure associated with the channel, Paul Denino, said on a live stream yesterday that Gionet was “working with my manager now” and Denino’s manager Brent Kaskel said he had given Gionet production equipment.

*snip*

In their first collaborative stream, Denino and Gionet had tried to make money by putting a young woman in a straitjacket and taping over her mouth with the premise that they were trying to find out if “she has what it takes to be a livestreamer.” The stream ended in a screaming match.

Aieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

rightwingwatch.org

ETA this late breaking news:

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MsJ  May 3, 2018 • 5:37:48pm

70 subpoenas = 35 sets (planting/defense). Likely all witnesses.

Read the thread.

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Sea Mexican!  May 3, 2018 • 5:40:28pm

re: #210 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

Remember the ruckus about that time Obama was “caught” looking at another woman in a photo, and was just looking where he was going to step in the video?

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Ace Rothstein  May 3, 2018 • 5:41:32pm

re: #311 MsJ

314
Interesting Times  May 3, 2018 • 5:44:11pm
315
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 3, 2018 • 5:44:26pm

“Chyna people”

316
makeitstop  May 3, 2018 • 5:49:18pm

re: #315 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“Chyna people”

I’m still trying to figure out where ‘Cocaine Mitch’ came from.

317
MsJ  May 3, 2018 • 5:49:59pm

Life comes at you fast sometimes.

Six hours apart.

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gocart mozart  May 3, 2018 • 5:51:22pm

This douche just followed me?!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 5:51:34pm

re: #316 makeitstop

I’m still trying to figure out where ‘Cocaine Mitch’ came from.

From his wife’s family’s shipping business. They got caught smuggling 90 pounds of cocaine.

propublica.org

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 5:51:52pm

re: #315 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“Chyna people”

[Embedded content]

The party that claims it can’t be racist because of 150 years ago

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 5:53:18pm

Chyna People = Elaine Chao

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b.d. (Be Best)  May 3, 2018 • 5:54:20pm

re: #316 makeitstop

I’m still trying to figure out where ‘Cocaine Mitch’ came from.

He is such a ball of boundless energy after all……

323
freetoken  May 3, 2018 • 5:55:18pm

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

That election was known for its mysterious dark money.

The source of the $2 million funneled (there’s that word again) through the suspicious “SEALS for Truth”, the “American Policy Center”, is pretty much a secret society of dark money, funded by … nobody knows.

It’s hard to find much information on that group. They do show up in two articles here:

plunderbund.com

plunderbund.com

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JordanRules  May 3, 2018 • 5:55:30pm
325
Eclectic Cyborg  May 3, 2018 • 5:55:57pm

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JordanRules  May 3, 2018 • 5:56:23pm
327
HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 5:57:12pm

re: #326 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

I guess all the Trumpers who used that one photo of him with Oprah to attack her are going to shut up now. But nah.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 5:58:28pm

re: #325 Eclectic Cyborg

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329
JordanRules  May 3, 2018 • 5:58:53pm

re: #325 Eclectic Cyborg

That is lovely! Wonderful moment captured. So happy everything went smoothly!

330
b.d. (Be Best)  May 3, 2018 • 5:58:53pm

re: #324 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

I’m calling BS, there isn’t a 4 story building in Lubbock.

//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 5:59:04pm

re: #326 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

Perfection!

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JordanRules  May 3, 2018 • 5:59:14pm
333
freetoken  May 3, 2018 • 5:59:56pm

If you want to know how sneaky the American Policy Coalition is, go to their website.

But warning: Chrome flags the URL as dangerous. So I use a VPN and an incognito window:

americanpolicycoalition.com

The sum total of that webpage is a video, asking Trump to lift restrictions on “aerospace” exports (read: weapons) and asking support for the Export-Import Bank.

Dodgy as hell.

This is what is funding American politics now.

334
makeitstop  May 3, 2018 • 6:02:14pm

re: #319 Backwoods_Sleuth

From his wife’s family’s shipping business. They got caught smuggling 90 pounds of cocaine.

propublica.org

Ah. Thanks.

335
lawhawk  May 3, 2018 • 6:02:52pm

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

336
HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 6:03:14pm

Ryan backed down on Father Conroy. Good. re: #332 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

I like how talking about hanging women for something that’s a legal procedure throughout the Western world is just an “alternative opinion.”

337
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 6:03:54pm

re: #335 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

he’s gonna find out what “totally fucked” feels like…

338
freetoken  May 3, 2018 • 6:04:04pm

re: #335 lawhawk

They also should require a law that forces APC to reveal itself.

339
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 6:05:12pm
340
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 6:06:04pm
341
MsJ  May 3, 2018 • 6:09:30pm

re: #325 Eclectic Cyborg

qPDMhg2VcXguzyOrFH1vnqluFGp/iBaO5dvPu0prDOyhDShHlx46Vtp0ZXObXI4hPsCtHSiwWVTSrvayVKK7V8spu1YS66zLBcSTp4bomPYfxzba0lhzkA==

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 6:11:07pm

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

I like how cheerful she remains in the face of people who hate her guts simply because of who her parents are.

343
Belafon  May 3, 2018 • 6:13:28pm

re: #318 gocart mozart

This douche just followed me?!

[Embedded content]

Um, yes.

344
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 6:14:04pm
345
Jay C  May 3, 2018 • 6:14:06pm

re: #342 HappyWarrior

I like how cheerful she remains in the face of people who hate her guts simply because of who her parents are.

SRSLY: I would have answered that assclown with something more like:

“I’m talking about funding infectious-disease countermeasures, and you respond with asinine personal insults? Fuck you, jackwad…..”

But then, Chelsea Clinton is likely a better person than me….

346
HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 6:17:07pm

re: #345 Jay C

SRSLY: I would have answered that assclown with something more like:

But then, Chelsea Clinton is likely a better person than me….

She’s dealt with so much hate from an early age starting when that pig Limbaugh called her a dog.

347
The Major  May 3, 2018 • 6:17:14pm

BBC World Service was brutal in the latest Giuliani / Sanders / Cohen / Trump brouhaha.
Auntie Beeb stated that Sanders first found out about the payment during last night’s interview with Giuliani on Lumpy’s show….

348
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 6:17:35pm

dust…eyes…

349
freetoken  May 3, 2018 • 6:17:37pm

re: #344 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s very little thick ice left in the Arctic Sea:

Image: arcticictn_nowcast_anim30d.gif

350
Barefoot Grin  May 3, 2018 • 6:20:13pm

A law dude I know from another cite (sports related) said “calm down” about the subpoenas—it’s a normal amount in a Manafort style white collar crime case; and, he said, follow

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HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 6:22:18pm

re: #348 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

dust…eyes…

Awesome story. Congrats to him.

352
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 3, 2018 • 6:25:06pm

re: #351 HappyWarrior

Awesome story. Congrats to him.

353
ObserverArt  May 3, 2018 • 6:25:20pm

re: #342 HappyWarrior

I like how cheerful she remains in the face of people who hate her guts simply because of who her parents are.

While handing them their heads without them realizing it.

Think of the political and public speaking genes in Chelsea Clinton. She may be smarter than mom and dad.

354
HappyWarrior  May 3, 2018 • 6:27:10pm

re: #352 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Wow. That’s like fairy tale stuff but seriously props to him.

355
MsJ  May 3, 2018 • 6:27:11pm

Fuck this noise.


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