Watch Live: And Now, Melania Trump Will Gloss Over the Fact That She’s Married to a Racist Philandering Bully

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Charles Johnson  May 7, 2018 • 12:02:15pm
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jaunte  May 7, 2018 • 12:02:50pm

Be best speaker of languages five

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Stanley Sea  May 7, 2018 • 12:03:15pm

Be Best is the name of her program?

Doesn’t anyone in the WH have an ounce of creativity?

nah

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jaunte  May 7, 2018 • 12:03:15pm

Buone jorno

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Charles Johnson  May 7, 2018 • 12:04:38pm

JFC

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jaunte  May 7, 2018 • 12:05:28pm

The children are our future

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 7, 2018 • 12:06:04pm

I think “Bee Vest” would be better.

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jaunte  May 7, 2018 • 12:06:13pm

What’s with the music

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 7, 2018 • 12:06:18pm

where is Barron?

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  May 7, 2018 • 12:06:27pm

Are they showing a commercial first?

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Charles Johnson  May 7, 2018 • 12:07:01pm
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KGxvi  May 7, 2018 • 12:08:35pm

re: #9 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

where is Barron?

Hop fully getting an education that’s the rest of the family didn’t bother with

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Charles Johnson  May 7, 2018 • 12:08:43pm

Oh man, this is painful.

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Skip Intro  May 7, 2018 • 12:09:17pm

re: #9 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

where is Barron?

Learning to be a Trump.

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BigPapa  May 7, 2018 • 12:09:36pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

JFC

FFS

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2018 • 12:09:47pm

I try to listen, but all I hear is the angry screaming and gnashing of teeth from wingnuts when the last FLOTUS tried to promote a program aimed at helping children.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  May 7, 2018 • 12:10:01pm

I hope she talked to Sessions.

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KGxvi  May 7, 2018 • 12:10:55pm

In much more important news: I am having Porto’s for lunch. Crocettas, Cuban sandwich, and iron beer

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2018 • 12:11:32pm

Anybody else remember when the last POTUS spoke to children live on TV and the response was “HE’S TRYING TO INDOCTRINATE OUR KIDS!!!!”?

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  May 7, 2018 • 12:11:39pm

re: #18 KGxvi

In much more important news: I am having Porto’s for lunch. Crocettas, Cuban sandwich, and iron beer

Taking my girl out for barbecue ribs tonight for her last pre-braces meal.

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goddamnedfrank  May 7, 2018 • 12:11:54pm

WUT?

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KGxvi  May 7, 2018 • 12:12:44pm

re: #21 goddamnedfrank

WUT?

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Crazy stalker stalks someone crazily. My shocked face

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Sir John Barron  May 7, 2018 • 12:13:22pm

re: #21 goddamnedfrank

WUT?

Zimmerman has much better cred to be the next NRA President than Ollie North. Zimmerman is a non-LE person who’s killed someone and gotten away with it.

///

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  May 7, 2018 • 12:13:36pm

Why isn’t she looking directly at her husband when she says this?

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Skip Intro  May 7, 2018 • 12:13:43pm

re: #21 goddamnedfrank

WUT?

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I don’t know why CCJ hasn’t teamed up with this guy. They were made for each other.

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calochortus  May 7, 2018 • 12:13:55pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Oh man, this is painful.

I’d feel sorry for anyone in her position (forced into a public role she never wanted) if she hadn’t willing married Trump. Since she did, well, tough.

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Skip Intro  May 7, 2018 • 12:15:40pm

re: #2 jaunte

Be best speaker of languages five

And an architect to boot.

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Jay C  May 7, 2018 • 12:15:53pm

re: #16 Targetpractice

I try to listen, but all I hear is the angry screaming and gnashing of teeth from wingnuts when the last FLOTUS tried to promote a program aimed at helping children.

It may just be reflexive cynicism (15 months of the Trump Administration will do that), but I get the feeling that the screaming and gnashing from wingers is just waiting in the wings, and will surface as soon* as Melania’s “initiative” gets anything less from the media than slavish admiration, adoration and praise (regardless of its actual content).

*i.e. immediately

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  May 7, 2018 • 12:15:55pm

“Be Best.” That’s the best they could come up with? Sad.

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 12:16:37pm

Be
Best?

ROFL
They just suck at everything. But my 2nd hand embarrassment doesn’t even kick in since they are awful people. That tag line, sign and text placement are awful too!

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 12:16:43pm

re: #29 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

“Be Best.” That’s the best they could come up with? Sad.

What does it even mean?

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 12:17:32pm

re: #21 goddamnedfrank

WUT?

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Shocker.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 7, 2018 • 12:17:44pm

re: #25 Skip Intro

I don’t know why CCJ hasn’t teamed up with this guy. They were made for each other.

Even Zimmerman has some standards of decency

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Sir John Barron  May 7, 2018 • 12:17:52pm

re: #16 Targetpractice

I try to listen, but all I hear is the angry screaming and gnashing of teeth from wingnuts when the last FLOTUS tried to promote a program aimed at helping children.

This is completely different. Obama could only get one wife. Our MAGA president has 3!

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2018 • 12:18:03pm

re: #28 Jay C

It may just be reflexive cynicism (15 months of the Trump Administration will do that), but I get the feeling that the screaming and gnashing from wingers is just waiting in the wings, and will surface as soon* as Melania’s “initiative” gets anything less from the media than slavish admiration, adoration and praise (regardless of its actual content).

*i.e. immediately

“HOW DARE YOU CRITICIZE HER ACCENT?!”

“We never said anything about her accent, we just questioned the viability of this program.”

“IT’S BECAUSE SHE’S A WOMAN, ISN’T IT?! LIBERALS ARE AFRAID OF STRONG CONSERVATIVE WOMEN!!!!”

“…the fuck are you on about?”

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BigPapa  May 7, 2018 • 12:18:03pm

re: #31 Blind Frog Belly White

What does it even mean?

It’s a Beiber thing, like being a Belieber, you want to BeBest’est too. Or be the most Beiber-ist, such as ‘BeBest.’

That’s the best I can do with the limited information I have.

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b.d.  May 7, 2018 • 12:18:16pm

re: #22 KGxvi

Crazy stalker stalks someone crazily. My shocked face

I thought he became a famous artist with his masterpieces selling for triple digits?

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  May 7, 2018 • 12:19:20pm

“Be best” doesn’t sound like proper English. Very awkward. Sad.

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Belafon  May 7, 2018 • 12:19:23pm

re: #37 b.d. (Disposable)

I thought he became a famous artist with his masterpieces selling for triple digits?

$4.99 is three digits.

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 12:20:16pm

re: #38 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

“Be best” doesn’t sound like proper English. Very awkward. Sad.

It’s super awkward. I wonder how many folks nodded in agreement with this choice.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  May 7, 2018 • 12:21:00pm

re: #40 JordanRules

It’s super awkward. I wonder how many folks nodded in agreement with this choice.

Everyone. They didn’t dare do otherwise.

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Stanley Sea  May 7, 2018 • 12:22:37pm

re: #29 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

“Be Best.” That’s the best they could come up with? Sad.

Apparently she came up with the name & logo herself.

pitiful

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Kragar  May 7, 2018 • 12:22:52pm
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Targetpractice  May 7, 2018 • 12:23:20pm

Well, that was pointless. Though I’m sure wingnuts will proclaim this as one of the greatest initiatives conceived of by a FLOTUS. And how “genuine” she seemed today…in reading those prepared remarks.

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 12:23:29pm
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Charles Johnson  May 7, 2018 • 12:23:43pm
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b.d.  May 7, 2018 • 12:24:12pm

re: #40 JordanRules

It’s super awkward. I wonder how many folks nodded in agreement with this choice.

Her other proposed names for this program were:
* Do you know a divorce lawyer?
* I’m leaving
* How much is 50%?

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 12:24:39pm

re: #42 Stanley Sea

Apparently she came up with the name & logo herself.

pitiful

She should’ve cribbed something from Michelle.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 7, 2018 • 12:25:16pm

re: #47 b.d. (Disposable)

Her other proposed names for this program were:
* Do you know a divorce lawyer?
* I’m leaving
* How much is 50%?

when melaina files for divorce it means she has been tipped off…

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 12:25:51pm

re: #45 JordanRules

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Trump people are so pathetically insecure. You made fun of us, we’re voting for Trump!

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KGxvi  May 7, 2018 • 12:26:41pm

re: #42 Stanley Sea

Apparently she came up with the name & logo herself.

pitiful

Is best some sort of acronym?

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Sir John Barron  May 7, 2018 • 12:27:11pm

re: #45 JordanRules

It’s disgraceful how condescending you are and how all of the twitter responses are just how “stupid” Trump people are.

Translation: Stop making fun of us, we’re very sensitive snowflakes with feelings over here.

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BigPapa  May 7, 2018 • 12:27:14pm

The narrative that people vote for Trump because they’ve been insulted/disrespected is admitting that Trumpism is reactionary, trolling our country because of hurt fee fees.

It’s such a pathetic point to make, really.

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2018 • 12:27:28pm

re: #50 HappyWarrior

Trump people are so pathetically insecure. You made fun of us, we’re voting for Trump!

The crowd who adopted “deplorables” and went around declaring “FUCK YOUR FEELINGS!” now want to whine that their hurt feelings are why they voted for the shit sandwich.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 12:28:19pm

re: #39 Belafon

$4.99 is three digits.

So’s that stupid “White Power” gang sign they throw. Coincidence? I think not!
///

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 12:28:23pm

May your memories be stirred…

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 12:28:29pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

The crowd who adopted “deplorables” and went around declaring “FUCK YOUR FEELINGS!” now want to whine that their hurt feelings are why they voted for the shit sandwich.

Exactly. And the people who cheer deporting children. Fuck them. I have no problem questioning their intelligence.

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Barefoot Grin  May 7, 2018 • 12:28:38pm

Be Best—well, at least we know it wasn’t plagiarized.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 7, 2018 • 12:28:50pm

re: #38 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

“Be best” doesn’t sound like proper English. Very awkward. Sad.

Ain’tcha heard? “The” is an insult now—at least so every Ukrainian on the internet tells me….

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Charles Johnson  May 7, 2018 • 12:28:51pm
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b.d.  May 7, 2018 • 12:29:00pm

re: #51 KGxvi

Is best some sort of acronym?

Beautiful
Estranged
Seperated
Tall

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KGxvi  May 7, 2018 • 12:29:01pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

The crowd who adopted “deplorables” and went around declaring “FUCK YOUR FEELINGS!” now want to whine that their hurt feelings are why they voted for the shit sandwich.

NO! Fuck YOUR feelings libtard! Mine are totally valid and must be respected

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Sir John Barron  May 7, 2018 • 12:29:05pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

The crowd who adopted “deplorables” and went around declaring “FUCK YOUR FEELINGS!” now want to whine that their hurt feelings are why they voted for the shit sandwich.

We said F Your Feelings, not F Our Feelings!

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2018 • 12:29:36pm

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Sir John Barron  May 7, 2018 • 12:29:44pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

Whut?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 7, 2018 • 12:30:23pm
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KGxvi  May 7, 2018 • 12:30:38pm

re: #63 Sir John Barron

Four seconds!

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Stanley Sea  May 7, 2018 • 12:31:18pm

re: #48 JordanRules

She should’ve cribbed something from Michelle.

Michelle had #bebetter

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Sir John Barron  May 7, 2018 • 12:32:31pm

re: #59 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Ain’tcha heard? “The” is an insult now—at least so every Ukrainian on the internet tells me….

“Be Best” is shorter than “Be the Best”. The “the” isn’t even doing anything there. So we got rid of the useless stuff. The new edition of Newspeak will destroy more words till we get down to the smallest vocabulary possible.

/

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 12:32:40pm

re: #68 Stanley Sea

Michelle had #bebetter

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I’m done…

2018 you need to go!

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 12:33:12pm
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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 12:33:47pm

re: #71 JordanRules

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Damn dictionary.com, you be trolling :)

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b.d.  May 7, 2018 • 12:33:55pm
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Sir John Barron  May 7, 2018 • 12:34:09pm

re: #71 JordanRules

Ted Nugent must be feeling pretty disappointed. What’s a guy have to do to get the head NRA gig?

//

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 12:34:34pm

re: #74 Sir John Barron

Ted Nugent must be feeling pretty disappointed. What’s a guy have to do to get the head NRA gig?

//

Be
Best

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 12:34:59pm

re: #74 Sir John Barron

Ted Nugent must be feeling pretty disappointed. What’s a guy have to do to get the head NRA gig?

//

Well Ted never lied for Reagan. Just about Reagan.

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gocart mozart  May 7, 2018 • 12:37:11pm
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Charles Johnson  May 7, 2018 • 12:40:12pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  May 7, 2018 • 12:40:25pm

re: #7 I Would Prefer Not To

I think “Bee Vest” would be better.

I may be bored at work.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 7, 2018 • 12:41:48pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 7, 2018 • 12:42:26pm

re: #77 gocart mozart

Was she telling him to get his grubby paws off her and don’t kiss my lips?

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 12:42:46pm

I love my Dad. He should be head of the DEA in response to the North NRaa presidency.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 12:43:12pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

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Self awareness lacking as always.

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MsJ  May 7, 2018 • 12:44:44pm

re: #68 Stanley Sea

Michelle had #bebetter

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wrenchwench  May 7, 2018 • 12:46:16pm

re: #84 MsJ

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When they go better, we go best.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 7, 2018 • 12:46:41pm

I’d rather follow Sinatra who said, “To Be Do Be Do”!

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Sir John Barron  May 7, 2018 • 12:46:43pm

re: #83 HappyWarrior

Self awareness lacking as always.

If DJT does it, it’s not bullying.

/

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  May 7, 2018 • 12:47:08pm

for melania:

The ballroom was filled with fashion’s throng,
It shone with a thousand lights;
And there was a woman who passed along,
The fairest of all the sights.
A girl to her lover then softly sighed,
“There’s riches at her command.”
“But she married for wealth, not for love,” he cried!
“Though she lives in a mansion grand.”

(chorus)
She’s only a bird in a gilded cage,
A beautiful sight to see.
You may think she’s happy and free from care,
She’s not, though she seems to be.
‘Tis sad when you think of her wasted life
For youth cannot mate with age;
And her beauty was sold for an old man’s gold,
She’s a bird in a gilded cage.

I stood in a churchyard just at eve,
When sunset adorned the west;
And looked at the people who’d come to grieve
For loved ones now laid at rest.
A tall marble monument marked the grave
Of one who’d been fashion’s queen;
And I thought, “She is happier here at rest,
Than to have people say when seen:

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Charles Johnson  May 7, 2018 • 12:47:22pm
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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 12:47:36pm

It’s damn distrurbing that they are even a viable party still.

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Sir John Barron  May 7, 2018 • 12:49:16pm

re: #90 JordanRules

It’s damn distrurbing that they are even a viable party still.

Dude should hurry up and plead guilty, so he can serve his time then run for Senate or President under the GOP banner.

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BigPapa  May 7, 2018 • 12:50:10pm

Oliver North is looking more and more like Peter Cushing.

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BigPapa  May 7, 2018 • 12:56:44pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 7, 2018 • 12:57:59pm

I had a nightmare last night…

DQvw10Py05hUcz+BZwgccNoiJwEtbMCokGGKk44T/RZnb1NB7iB5CjOMvUruAWm5VhhlZyNVmCX0FxNr3wJgVg==

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TedStriker  May 7, 2018 • 12:58:00pm

re: #21 goddamnedfrank

WUT?

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I wonder if ol’ Georgie was looking for a sidewalk to bloody himself with first…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 7, 2018 • 1:01:49pm

re: #25 Skip Intro

I don’t know why CCJ hasn’t teamed up with this guy. They were made for each other.

Sadly, LGF documented their meeting…

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 1:03:16pm

re: #94 Joe Bacon 🌹

LMAO!!!

Damn, sorry Joe.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 7, 2018 • 1:04:44pm

re: #96 Joe Bacon 🌹

Sadly, LGF documented their meeting…

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If they added Ben Shapiro to that crowd, we’d have Larry, Curley, and Moe.

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MsJ  May 7, 2018 • 1:04:46pm

re: #94 Joe Bacon 🌹

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 7, 2018 • 1:05:54pm

re: #96 Joe Bacon 🌹

Sadly, LGF documented their meeting…

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Let’s put it this way…it wasn’t a meeting of the minds…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 7, 2018 • 1:07:19pm

re: #98 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

If they added Ben Shapiro to that crowd, we’d have Larry, Curley, and Moe.

But you only wound up with a third rate Duke Mitchell and Sammy Petrillo…

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makeitstop  May 7, 2018 • 1:07:49pm
Melania says the “three main pillars” of Be Best are “well-being, social media use, and opioid abuse”

Well, I’ve got two out of three, guess I gotta go score some opioids.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 1:09:08pm

The NRA choosing Ollie North is a perfect example of the evolution of the Right from a coherent, if poorly reasoned, political philosophy to simple trolling. That’s where we are as a country - “This isn’t an argument! This is just contradiction!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 7, 2018 • 1:09:33pm

And where will they market their merchandising?

Best Buy!

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scottslemmons  May 7, 2018 • 1:09:46pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 7, 2018 • 1:09:52pm

re: #103 Blind Frog Belly White

The NRA choosing Ollie North is a perfect example of the evolution of the Right from a coherent, if poorly reasoned, political philosophy to simple trolling. That’s where we are as a country - “This isn’t an argument! This is just contradiction!”

Piss off a liberal!

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Sir John Barron  May 7, 2018 • 1:09:57pm

re: #103 Blind Frog Belly White

The NRA choosing Ollie North is a perfect example of the evolution of the Right from a coherent, if poorly reasoned, political philosophy to simple trolling. That’s where we are as a country - “This isn’t an argument! This is just contradiction!”

Picking criminal turned Fox partisan hack to head our organization to own the libs.

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Sir John Barron  May 7, 2018 • 1:10:49pm

Be Best.

Always Be Best.

Always Be Closing.

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2018 • 1:11:18pm

re: #108 Sir John Barron

Be Best.

Always Be Best.

Always Be Closing.

Coffee is for closers.

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Dave In Austin  May 7, 2018 • 1:11:36pm

re: #64 Targetpractice

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Barefoot Grin  May 7, 2018 • 1:12:49pm
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darthstar  May 7, 2018 • 1:14:36pm
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Dave In Austin  May 7, 2018 • 1:14:57pm

OCD Vid of the day.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 7, 2018 • 1:16:46pm

re: #112 darthstar

He would think to ask Trump to apologize for his remarks about not getting captured…

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darthstar  May 7, 2018 • 1:17:07pm
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Charles Johnson  May 7, 2018 • 1:17:43pm
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darthstar  May 7, 2018 • 1:18:16pm
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darthstar  May 7, 2018 • 1:19:52pm

Probably not a great place to leave one’s car.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 7, 2018 • 1:20:13pm

re: #113 Dave In Austin

OCD Vid of the day.

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I look at that and it reminds me of my college British Politics class where we laughed at the cartoon of Disraeli on the “top of the greasy pole”!

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BeachDem  May 7, 2018 • 1:20:59pm

So the three pillars of the grammatically sketchy, poorly designed program are:

well-being
social media use
opioid abuse

Is she for or against these “pillars?”

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darthstar  May 7, 2018 • 1:21:59pm
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danarchy  May 7, 2018 • 1:22:30pm

re: #118 darthstar

Probably not a great place to leave one’s car.

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I wonder if “Swallowed by lava” is covered on their insurance policy.

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Barefoot Grin  May 7, 2018 • 1:24:30pm

re: #122 danarchy

I wonder if “Swallowed by lava” is covered on their insurance policy.

“Brad.”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 7, 2018 • 1:24:55pm

re: #118 darthstar

Probably not a great place to leave one’s car.

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Unless you’re looking to get rid of a body in the trunk.

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darthstar  May 7, 2018 • 1:25:04pm
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Eventual Carrion  May 7, 2018 • 1:25:30pm

re: #96 Joe Bacon 🌹

Sadly, LGF documented their meeting…

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Are those books in the fireplace? Were they getting ready for a book burning?

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darthstar  May 7, 2018 • 1:25:32pm

re: #122 danarchy

I wonder if “Swallowed by lava” is covered on their insurance policy.

It’ll make for a great Farmer’s commercial.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 7, 2018 • 1:27:27pm

re: #127 darthstar

It’ll make for a great Farmer’s commercial.

It’ll never beat the “Stag Party” one….

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 1:29:05pm

re: #122 danarchy

I wonder if “Swallowed by lava” is covered on their insurance policy.

One of the many laughable moments of “Dante’s Peak” comes when Pierce Brosnan the Vulcanologist drives his trusty Chevy pickup through molten lava up to his hubs, and the gas tank doesn’t explode, exposed to temperatures well in excess of the autoignition temperature of gasoline.

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BeachDem  May 7, 2018 • 1:29:29pm

re: #120 BeachDem

So the three pillars of the grammatically sketchy, poorly designed program are:

well-being
social media use
opioid abuse

Is she for or against these “pillars?”

Others are asking the same question.

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Dave In Austin  May 7, 2018 • 1:30:57pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 1:31:38pm

re: #120 BeachDem

So the three pillars of the grammatically sketchy, poorly designed program are:

well-being
social media use
opioid abuse

Is she for or against these “pillars?”

One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things doesn’t belong,
Can you tell which thing is not like the others
By the time I finish my song?

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Bubblehead II  May 7, 2018 • 1:31:55pm

re: #124 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Unless you’re looking to get rid of a body in the trunk.

Pro tip for car owners.

Don’t name your car Brad.

Bad things happen to cars named Brad.

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Sir John Barron  May 7, 2018 • 1:32:36pm

re: #130 BeachDem

Others are asking the same question.

For the First, against the Third, the Second is up in the air, could go either way.

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b.d.  May 7, 2018 • 1:33:26pm
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Dr. Matt  May 7, 2018 • 1:33:59pm

George Zimmerman and Oliver North are trending. Consider this the shittiest day of the year so far.

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b.d.  May 7, 2018 • 1:34:23pm
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Sir John Barron  May 7, 2018 • 1:34:28pm

re: #136 Dr. Matt

George Zimmerman and Oliver North are trending. Consider this the shittiest day of the year so far.

At least it’s Thursday.

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b.d.  May 7, 2018 • 1:35:21pm

re: #136 Dr. Matt

George Zimmerman and Oliver North are trending. Consider this the shittiest day of the year so far.

One of these days their names will be trending with happy news.

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Sir John Barron  May 7, 2018 • 1:35:38pm

re: #137 b.d. (Be Best)

Another elitist person criticizing American woman of the people *squints* Melania Trump.

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Belafon  May 7, 2018 • 1:37:53pm

re: #136 Dr. Matt

George Zimmerman and Oliver North are trending. Consider this the shittiest day of the year so far.

Zimmerman’s in trouble again. Not exactly the way his name should trend.

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Dr. Matt  May 7, 2018 • 1:43:55pm

re: #141 Belafon

Zimmerman’s in trouble again. Not exactly the way his name should trend.

But, let it be clear….Trayvon was the real thug.

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ipsos  May 7, 2018 • 1:45:53pm

re: #142 Dr. Matt

LOCK HIM UP!!!!!

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 1:46:17pm

re: #142 Dr. Matt

But, let it be clear….Trayvon was the real thug.

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But he smoked the marijuana!//

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Dr. Matt  May 7, 2018 • 1:46:52pm

re: #144 HappyWarrior

But he smoked the marijuana!//

And those scary selfies!!!!

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2018 • 1:49:35pm

So this Be Best thing is a joke right?

Like Melania is just trolling us all and the real program rolls out tomorrow, right?

Right???

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Belafon  May 7, 2018 • 1:49:53pm

re: #145 Dr. Matt

And those scary selfies Skittles!!!!

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Kragar  May 7, 2018 • 1:50:02pm
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Belafon  May 7, 2018 • 1:50:29pm

re: #146 Eclectic Cyborg

So this Be Best thing is a joke right?

Like Melania is just trolling us all and the real program rolls out tomorrow, right?

Right???

We can’t fully go Russian until we butcher English properly.

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MsJ  May 7, 2018 • 1:53:14pm

re: #130 BeachDem

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darthstar  May 7, 2018 • 1:53:21pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2018 • 1:54:21pm

Oh and by the way, bebest.gov is operational now.

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darthstar  May 7, 2018 • 1:54:31pm

re: #141 Belafon

Zimmerman’s in trouble again. Not exactly the way his name should trend.

How is this a misdemeanor?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 1:54:44pm

re: #151 darthstar

Do Not Congratulate.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 1:55:26pm

re: #153 darthstar

How is this a misdemeanor?

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Especially with his history.

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Patricia Kayden  May 7, 2018 • 1:56:29pm

re: #34 Sir John Barron

And he’s so rich he can pay for side chicks. Winning!!

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Amory Blaine  May 7, 2018 • 1:57:37pm

Melania is not that bright and has no ambition. This initiative is never going anywhere.

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gocart mozart  May 7, 2018 • 1:57:48pm
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MsJ  May 7, 2018 • 1:58:13pm

re: #137 b.d. (Be Best)

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 1:59:30pm

re: #157 Amory Blaine

Melania is not that bright and has no ambition. This initiative is never going anywhere.

Or you might say she has no FURTHER ambition, having accomplished ‘Marry a rich guy’.

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wrenchwench  May 7, 2018 • 2:01:12pm
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Amory Blaine  May 7, 2018 • 2:01:43pm

No proof of her fluency in 5 languages despite years in the public eye. I call bullpucky.

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VegasGolfer  May 7, 2018 • 2:09:57pm

You just knew it.
dailykos.com

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 2:11:00pm
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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 2:11:00pm

re: #164 VegasGolfer

You just knew it.
dailykos.com

Sad.

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 2:13:24pm
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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 2:15:45pm
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darthstar  May 7, 2018 • 2:16:19pm

re: #164 VegasGolfer

You just knew it.
dailykos.com

Holy shit…this is pathetic.

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MsJ  May 7, 2018 • 2:16:50pm

NOW I get it.

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Dr. Matt  May 7, 2018 • 2:18:19pm
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goddamnedfrank  May 7, 2018 • 2:23:56pm

re: #25 Skip Intro

I don’t know why CCJ hasn’t teamed up with this guy. They were made for each other.

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Belafon  May 7, 2018 • 2:26:13pm

re: #170 JordanRules

Hey, Melania. I have a great idea for a way you could help all Americans with their health care. You could call it “Affordable Care Act.” Completely different than Obama’s because there’s no “the” in the title.

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darthstar  May 7, 2018 • 2:27:01pm

re: #172 MsJ

NOW I get it.

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He wants to be in the sequel?

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Dr. Matt  May 7, 2018 • 2:28:13pm

re: #174 goddamnedfrank

Speaking of Rage Furby, is his divorce final?

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EPR-radar  May 7, 2018 • 2:29:35pm

In addition to its many other faults “Be best” is an ambiguous message.

“Be the best” and “Be your best” are very different messages to be giving to kids.

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gocart mozart  May 7, 2018 • 2:30:39pm

John Dingell retweets the Rude Pundit

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goddamnedfrank  May 7, 2018 • 2:31:46pm

re: #177 Dr. Matt

Speaking of Rage Furby, is his divorce final?

I wouldn’t know but I doubt it. Divorces take awhile when assets and children are involved.

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EPR-radar  May 7, 2018 • 2:32:02pm

re: #165 JordanRules

At this point it’s reasonable to conclude that national Republican leaders simply approve of a powerful official coercing women in some kind of freaky dungeon, as long as that official is Republican.

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Barefoot Grin  May 7, 2018 • 2:34:04pm

Because health care disincentivizes children to be best.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 2:38:18pm

re: #182 Barefoot Grin

Because health care disincentivizes children to be best.

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Fuck him.

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goddamnedfrank  May 7, 2018 • 2:38:50pm
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Targetpractice  May 7, 2018 • 2:40:20pm

re: #182 Barefoot Grin

Because health care disincentivizes children to be best.

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It would be nice if the same press who is dispassionately reporting on these cuts would point out that this is the very same program that they accused Democrats of “holding hostage” during the budget fight earlier this year.

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makeitstop  May 7, 2018 • 2:41:20pm

An update on that Rick Wilson tweet from this morning:

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  May 7, 2018 • 2:44:15pm

re: #180 goddamnedfrank

I wouldn’t know but I doubt it. Divorces take awhile when assets and children are involved.

Took me two months tops.

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2018 • 2:46:34pm

Jan 2018: “LOOK AT HOW TRUMP AND THE GOP SAVED CHIP! THE DEMS CARE SO LITTLE FOR SICK CHILDREN THAT THEY WERE GOING TO HOLD THEM HOSTAGE! HE’S MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”

May 2018: “Alright, nobody’s looking, let’s carve this fucker up like a turkey. That’s $15B that could go to more tax cuts.”

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MsJ  May 7, 2018 • 2:48:52pm

re: #186 makeitstop

An update on that Rick Wilson tweet from this morning:

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Yawn. This is already in the No Shit Sherlock file.

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darthstar  May 7, 2018 • 2:50:37pm
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makeitstop  May 7, 2018 • 2:55:04pm

re: #189 MsJ

Yawn. This is already in the No Shit Sherlock file.

Yeah, we kinda deduced that already.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 7, 2018 • 2:57:06pm
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Dr. Matt  May 7, 2018 • 2:59:05pm

re: #186 makeitstop

An update on that Rick Wilson tweet from this morning:

Seems more like a nothingburger.

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darthstar  May 7, 2018 • 3:00:57pm

re: #193 Dr. Matt

Seems more like a nothingburger.

At some point, breaking news stops breaking. Promised follow ups on new information are stale by lunch. Even Trump’s tweets are sounding tired right now.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 3:04:48pm

re: #194 darthstar

At some point, breaking news stops breaking. Promised follow ups on new information are stale by lunch. Even Trump’s tweets are sounding tired right now.

In Trump Years, we’re almost at the end of two terms.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 3:06:49pm

re: #194 darthstar

Seriously, though - I do not remember so much shit happening so quickly ever before in my life. I also would never have imagined a Congress of any stripe reacting with such nonchalance to it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 7, 2018 • 3:07:48pm

re: #196 Blind Frog Belly White

Seriously, though - I do not remember so much shit happening so quickly ever before in my life. I also would never have imagined a Congress of any stripe reacting with such nonchalance to it.

Which is why I’ve repeatedly asked WHAT KOMPROMAT DOES PUTIN HAVE ON REPUBLICANS??????

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Dr. Matt  May 7, 2018 • 3:09:03pm

re: #196 Blind Frog Belly White

Seriously, though - I do not remember so much shit happening so quickly ever before in my life. I also would never have imagined a Congress of any stripe reacting with such nonchalance to it.

When the mini-series is made sometime in the future, no one will believe that some much bullshit was happening so quickly in real-time.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 3:10:15pm

re: #197 Joe Bacon 🌹

Which is why I’ve repeatedly asked WHAT KOMPROMAT DOES PUTIN HAVE ON REPUBLICANS??????

Mrs. FBW says similar - that, and suspecting that Trump has threatened family members of prominent Republicans.

I take the much more cynical attitude that Trump freed the GOP from having to put up any pretense of carrying about law, or truth, or democracy, or any of it.

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makeitstop  May 7, 2018 • 3:10:57pm

re: #197 Joe Bacon 🌹

Which is why I’ve repeatedly asked WHAT KOMPROMAT DOES PUTIN HAVE ON REPUBLICANS??????

Whatever it is, I think he cut out the middleman and just gave it all to Trump.

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MsJ  May 7, 2018 • 3:13:12pm

re: #198 Dr. Matt

When the mini-series is made sometime in the future, no one will believe that some much bullshit was happening so quickly in real-time.

And that no one did anything about it all. Worse… They protected this asshole.

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Kragar  May 7, 2018 • 3:22:17pm
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scottslemmons  May 7, 2018 • 3:24:34pm

re: #197 Joe Bacon 🌹

Which is why I’ve repeatedly asked WHAT KOMPROMAT DOES PUTIN HAVE ON REPUBLICANS??????

Doesn’t have a thing on ‘em. The Republicans in Congress are the same as the Republicans everywhere — nothing but nihilists, Nazis, and Deplorables. They don’t do this stuff because they’re being forced to — they do it because this is how they get their rocks off.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 7, 2018 • 3:26:32pm

re: #196 Blind Frog Belly White

Seriously, though - I do not remember so much shit happening so quickly ever before in my life. I also would never have imagined a Congress of any stripe reacting with such nonchalance to it.

My educated RW brother believes 100% in Trump. An example of what we were discussing the other day about how IQ tests don’t measure true intelligence.

Maybe most GOP members of Congress and the Senate are not very bright and have fallen for the official propaganda. A few, like Miss Lindsey, are probably being blackmailed.The remaining ones — like McConnell — are just traitors who care nothing about the country, but are part of the New World Order, where most of us are serfs paying obeisance to a few oligarchs running everything.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 3:26:51pm

re: #202 Kragar

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OMG, is that FOR REAL?!? Because if Melania’s trying to take credit for that, it’s really just sad.

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meteor  May 7, 2018 • 3:27:00pm
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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 3:28:25pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 7, 2018 • 3:29:19pm

re: #205 Blind Frog Belly White

OMG, is that FOR REAL?!? Because if Melania’s trying to take credit for that, it’s really just sad.

She knows quality work when she sees it!! This addresses only one of her 3 missions.

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meteor  May 7, 2018 • 3:29:51pm

re: #207 JordanRules

Wha

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Hecuba's daughter  May 7, 2018 • 3:31:14pm

re: #203 scottslemmons

Doesn’t have a thing on ‘em. The Republicans in Congress are the same as the Republicans everywhere — nothing but nihilists, Nazis, and Deplorables. They don’t do this stuff because they’re being forced to — they do it because this is how they get their rocks off.

Do the rich who care only about tax cuts fall into the Deplorable category?

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2018 • 3:31:56pm

re: #209 meteor

Wha

Totally fucking believable with this admin.

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Renaissance_Man  May 7, 2018 • 3:32:30pm

re: #197 Joe Bacon 🌹

Which is why I’ve repeatedly asked WHAT KOMPROMAT DOES PUTIN HAVE ON REPUBLICANS??????

I don’t think it’s much, or even anything.

I think today’s Republicans are like today’s Republican voters - they watch a lot of FOX, consume a lot of cult internet, and don’t need to be blackmailed to condone treason or crimes. They’re not condoning treason or crimes knowing that it’s wrong, but they feel they have to because of anything particular - they just don’t think they’re wrong. They believe that all things - naked treachery, open crimes, violence - are all okay as long as they hurt the ‘real villains’; ie. liberals, Democrats, foreigners. This now extends to the judicial institutions of the United States, because that’s how powerful the FOX cult is - it has convinced these people that the very institutions that protect them, that they once championed, are now their enemies. That’s why they don’t just hold their nose and support criminals - they actively support criminals, because they consider the law enforcement of the Federal Government their enemy.

It’s possible that FOX has sold this message deliberately on behalf of the Russians. I don’t know that. It certainly helps them.

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ObserverArt  May 7, 2018 • 3:39:16pm

I’ve had a really crappy day…so I am not caught up around here.

I just turned on Ari about 10 minutes ago and he had Sam Nunberg on. All I can say is this whole investigation appears to be heading for a real mess.

Nunberg is feeling awfully cocky since we last saw him. He seems to think that now that Ty Cobb is out as lawyer, Trump chose Rudy to start what Nunberg called a political street fight.

Nunberg seems to think the whole investigation is nothing but politics and nothing to do with laws. He said Mueller is a friend of Comey and it is all a political ploy to bring Trump down.

He didn’t talk like this a month ago. Someone gave him something to make him stronger on all this. He seemed resigned that Trump screwed up before.

Of course this is Nunberg, so nothing can be trusted as far as what the fool says. But I do believe he is a messenger for Trump.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 3:40:27pm

I’ve said this before, but I am increasingly convinced that if guns are ever outlawed in America it will be BECAUSE OF the actions of the NRA, not in spite of. You don’t choose Ollie North, a man convicted of a number of felonies involving flouting the rule of law, for any other reason than to scream “FUCK YOU!!” to the rest of America. Same thing with putting - and keeping - Ted Nugent on their BoD. Even before Trump was elected, gun laws were becoming more and more lax, and yet as they’ve expanded their rights the NRA insists gun owners are under siege like never before. They work hard to paint themselves as exactly the sort of people that should not be allowed a pocketknife, let alone a gun - paranoid, resentful, prone to threats of violence.

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ipsos  May 7, 2018 • 3:46:16pm

re: #213 ObserverArt

Of course this is Nunberg, so nothing can be trusted as far as what the fool says. But I do believe he is a messenger for Trump.

The tell for me was the shot they used going into the break before Nunberg came on, when he was sitting in the chair outside the studio. He looked nervous as hell.

I don’t think he’s speaking for Trump; I think he’s speaking only for Nunberg, and I think he’s going to end up behind bars sooner rather than later.

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MsJ  May 7, 2018 • 3:47:14pm

re: #205 Blind Frog Belly White

OMG, is that FOR REAL?!? Because if Melania’s trying to take credit for that, it’s really just sad.

Read the entire Rude Pundit thread here. He catalogs it.

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scottslemmons  May 7, 2018 • 3:49:21pm

re: #210 Hecuba’s daughter

Do the rich who care only about tax cuts fall into the Deplorable category?

Part Deplorable, part nihilist.

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ObserverArt  May 7, 2018 • 3:50:14pm

re: #215 ipsos

The tell for me was the shot they used going into the break before Nunberg came on, when he was sitting in the chair outside the studio. He looked nervous as hell.

I don’t think he’s speaking for Trump; I think he’s speaking only for Nunberg, and I think he’s going to end up behind bars sooner rather than later.

I didn’t see that, when I tuned in he was already introduced and Ari was just starting to ask questions.

He most definitely is speaking about all this differently than he did when he was last on with Ari and talking all over the place.

Maybe they changed his meds.

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MsJ  May 7, 2018 • 3:50:15pm

re: #212 Renaissance_Man

I don’t think it’s much, or even anything.

I think today’s Republicans are like today’s Republican voters - they watch a lot of FOX, consume a lot of cult internet, and don’t need to be blackmailed to condone treason or crimes. They’re not condoning treason or crimes knowing that it’s wrong, but they feel they have to because of anything particular - they just don’t think they’re wrong. They believe that all things - naked treachery, open crimes, violence - are all okay as long as they hurt the ‘real villains’; ie. liberals, Democrats, foreigners. This now extends to the judicial institutions of the United States, because that’s how powerful the FOX cult is - it has convinced these people that the very institutions that protect them, that they once championed, are now their enemies. That’s why they don’t just hold their nose and support criminals - they actively support criminals, because they consider the law enforcement of the Federal Government their enemy.

It’s possible that FOX has sold this message deliberately on behalf of the Russians. I don’t know that. It certainly helps them.

Rupert Murdoch has ties to Putin (minimally through his daughter, as does Ivanka). Murdoch is, for whatever reason, trying to bring down the West. His rags touted Brexit on and on and on. He lied for Brexit, he scared old people (sound familiar?) Here’s actively working against western interests.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 3:51:24pm

re: #58 Barefoot Grin

Be Best—well, at least we know it wasn’t plagiarized.

bebest.com

LOL

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Ace Rothstein  May 7, 2018 • 3:51:51pm
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Unshaken Defiance  May 7, 2018 • 3:53:08pm

re: #195 Blind Frog Belly White

In Trump Years, we’re almost at the end of two terms my patience.

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VegasGolfer  May 7, 2018 • 3:53:34pm

re: #211 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump admin is lucy with the football. The press is charlie brown.

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makeitstop  May 7, 2018 • 4:00:46pm

Oh, boy. Schneiderman accused of sexual harassment…

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KGxvi  May 7, 2018 • 4:01:01pm

re: #115 darthstar

I used to believe there are no dumb ideas when you’re brainstorming.

Having now heard “Be Best” I’d like to amend my previous position

Reminds me of this:

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MsJ  May 7, 2018 • 4:03:03pm

re: #224 makeitstop

Oh, boy. Schneiderman accused of sexual harassment…

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Fuck. I give up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 4:04:18pm

re: #118 darthstar

Probably not a great place to leave one’s car.

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saw that earlier and had some thoughts:

A. Innovative insurance fraud.
B. Hold my beer!
C. Major disappointment that the fuel tank did not explode and there was no opportunity for a retake…

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KGxvi  May 7, 2018 • 4:07:52pm

re: #212 Renaissance_Man

I don’t think it’s much, or even anything.

I think today’s Republicans are like today’s Republican voters - they watch a lot of FOX, consume a lot of cult internet, and don’t need to be blackmailed to condone treason or crimes. They’re not condoning treason or crimes knowing that it’s wrong, but they feel they have to because of anything particular - they just don’t think they’re wrong. They believe that all things - naked treachery, open crimes, violence - are all okay as long as they hurt the ‘real villains’; ie. liberals, Democrats, foreigners. This now extends to the judicial institutions of the United States, because that’s how powerful the FOX cult is - it has convinced these people that the very institutions that protect them, that they once championed, are now their enemies. That’s why they don’t just hold their nose and support criminals - they actively support criminals, because they consider the law enforcement of the Federal Government their enemy.

It’s possible that FOX has sold this message deliberately on behalf of the Russians. I don’t know that. It certainly helps them.

I’ve heard this theory a few times. It usually goes that if you go into a Democratic office, they’ll have multiple news papers, TV’s with multiple news feeds, and are generally willing to listen (or at least monitor) what various news agencies are saying. But on the GOP side, all the TV’s are tuned to FNC, and they’re more likely to be checking Brietbart than they are the Washington Post. It’s a sort of confirmation bias or epistemic closure and Trump, in a post-modern way, has taken full advantage of that (though I doubt he understands what post-modern thought is)

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Weaselone  May 7, 2018 • 4:08:17pm

re: #224 makeitstop

Oh, boy. Schneiderman accused of sexual harassment…

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Not sexual. Physical.

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Ace Rothstein  May 7, 2018 • 4:10:29pm

This is a photo “shopped” with MS Paint. I thought that died in the Clinton administration.

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ipsos  May 7, 2018 • 4:12:56pm

re: #229 Weaselone

Not sexual. Physical.

After what was done to Franken, I want to see solid proof before I’m going to believe accusations. There are plenty of people with very good reasons for wanting to see Schneiderman discredited.

And this is personal, because Schneiderman is MY AG, and the most effective occupant of that office in my memory. If he’s in the wrong, so be it - but I don’t want him going down just on anonymous accusations.

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makeitstop  May 7, 2018 • 4:14:00pm

re: #231 ipsos

After what was done to Franken, I want to see solid proof before I’m going to believe accusations. There are plenty of people with very good reasons for wanting to see Schneiderman discredited.

And this is personal, because Schneiderman is MY AG, and the most effective occupant of that office in my memory. If he’s in the wrong, so be it - but I don’t want him going down just on anonymous accusations.

Seconded.

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Ace Rothstein  May 7, 2018 • 4:15:18pm

re: #231 ipsos

Thirded.

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ObserverArt  May 7, 2018 • 4:16:11pm

re: #231 ipsos

After what was done to Franken, I want to see solid proof before I’m going to believe accusations. There are plenty of people with very good reasons for wanting to see Schneiderman discredited.

And this is personal, because Schneiderman is MY AG, and the most effective occupant of that office in my memory. If he’s in the wrong, so be it - but I don’t want him going down just on anonymous accusations.

I’m with you. I want to make sure this isn’t a Trump created thing to get back at what is going on in New York with Cohen and Stormy, etc. There are just too damn many dirty tricksters surrounding Trump.

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TedStriker  May 7, 2018 • 4:17:01pm

re: #231 ipsos

After what was done to Franken, I want to see solid proof before I’m going to believe accusations. There are plenty of people with very good reasons for wanting to see Schneiderman discredited.

And this is personal, because Schneiderman is MY AG, and the most effective occupant of that office in my memory. If he’s in the wrong, so be it - but I don’t want him going down just on anonymous accusations.

I wonder if Black Cube has been doing “research” on Schneiderman.

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ipsos  May 7, 2018 • 4:17:08pm

And having now finished reading the New Yorker article, I’ve gotta say that Farrow and Mayer do seem to have a pretty solidly-sourced story.

Fuck.

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gocart mozart  May 7, 2018 • 4:25:45pm

This is the mentality we are dealing with. Everything comes back to abortion, not because they care about abortion but because they use it as a trump card to cover their sociopathy.

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goddamnedfrank  May 7, 2018 • 4:25:59pm
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Ace Rothstein  May 7, 2018 • 4:27:39pm
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MsJ  May 7, 2018 • 4:28:38pm

Who’s surprised?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 4:29:51pm

re: #237 gocart mozart

This is the mentality we are dealing with. Everything comes back to abortion, not because they care about abortion but because they use it as a trump card to cover their sociopathy.

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And always, in the minds of these people, blacks have no agency of their own. They are children, fooled into thinking they’re being discriminated against, fooled into having abortions, fooled into voting for Democrats.

But don’t dare call guys like that racist.

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BeachDem  May 7, 2018 • 4:31:49pm

re: #236 ipsos

And having now finished reading the New Yorker article, I’ve gotta say that Farrow and Mayer do seem to have a pretty solidly-sourced story.

Fuck.

Yeah, my spidey sense was on high alert until I read it, but they have two of the women on record—both of whom were in long-term documented relationships with him, and they seem to have verified much supporting evidence.

Say it ain’t so, Eric (which he has) but it doesn’t look good. Plus, even aside from the abuse accusations, the heavy drinking and domineering/nasty attitude stories sound horrible.

Damn it all Lto hell.

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KGxvi  May 7, 2018 • 4:31:55pm

re: #224 makeitstop

Oh, boy. Schneiderman accused of sexual harassment…

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This jumped out at me:

They allege that he repeatedly hit them, often after drinking, frequently in bed and never with their consent. Manning Barish and Selvaratnam categorize the abuse he inflicted on them as “assault.

A violent drunk, it appears. That’s not to give him a pass, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it turns out he has a problem with booze.

His denial is a classic non sequitur:

In a statement, Schneiderman said, “In the privacy of intimate relationships, I have engaged in role-playing and other consensual sexual activity. I have not assaulted anyone. I have never engaged in nonconsensual sex, which is a line I would not cross.”

The entire focus of his statement is about sexual activity, but ignores that at least one woman simply rebuffed his advances. That’s got nothing to do with sexual activity, that’s just hitting someone.

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Charles Johnson  May 7, 2018 • 4:32:09pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 4:32:19pm

re: #239 Ace Rothstein

I read this, and I thought, “Put not thy faith in princes”. Perhaps we become overly dependent on individual politicians to save us, only to be crushed when they turn out to have a bad side.

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Skip Intro  May 7, 2018 • 4:32:21pm

re: #213 ObserverArt

These people want a civil war, plain and simple.

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Varek Raith  May 7, 2018 • 4:33:28pm

re: #240 MsJ

Who’s surprised?

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He really thinks it can just be *poofed* away, doesn’t he?
What a freaking moron.

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ipsos  May 7, 2018 • 4:33:50pm

re: #245 Blind Frog Belly White

re: #245 Blind Frog Belly White

I read this, and I thought, “Put not thy faith in princes”. Perhaps we become overly dependent on individual politicians to save us, only to be crushed when they turn out to have a bad side.

I don’t see any individual politician as a hero (though my late Congresswoman came damn close)… but it sure would be nice to see more of them not turn out to be abusers or assholes.

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KGxvi  May 7, 2018 • 4:33:57pm

re: #237 gocart mozart

This is the mentality we are dealing with. Everything comes back to abortion, not because they care about abortion but because they use it as a trump card to cover their sociopathy.

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Friendly reminder: Martin was walking through a neighborhood where his dad lived, minding his own damn business. Zimmerman went out of his way to create a confrontation after the police told him to mind his damn business.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 7, 2018 • 4:34:55pm

re: #237 gocart mozart

This is the mentality we are dealing with. Everything comes back to abortion, not because they care about abortion but because they use it as a trump card to cover their sociopathy.

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Looks like that’s just another Russian bot!

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KGxvi  May 7, 2018 • 4:36:16pm

re: #240 MsJ

The amazing thing is, the Daniels case was a side show right up until the moment Rudy started running his mouth about it. Now everyone is taking a second or third look at it because the president doth protest too much, me thinks.

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Mike Lamb  May 7, 2018 • 4:37:00pm

re: #240 MsJ

Who’s surprised?

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Well, when you have the Underpants Gnome Theory of legal arguments, you’d think Trump would expect this.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 4:40:02pm

re: #240 MsJ

Who’s surprised?

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA

*gasp*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA

*cough, cough*

I can see those two idiots cooking this up, with Trump thinking this would make the whole thing go away, thinking he’s a fucking GENIUS!! to come up with the idea. And then it blows up in his face. So now it’s Giuliani’s fault.

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gocart mozart  May 7, 2018 • 4:40:14pm

re: #250 Joe Bacon 🌹

Know, I think he’s a legit right wing asshole.

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Belafon  May 7, 2018 • 4:42:22pm

re: #245 Blind Frog Belly White

I read this, and I thought, “Put not thy faith in princes”. Perhaps we become overly dependent on individual politicians to save us, only to be crushed when they turn out to have a bad side.

We weren’t completely counting onhim,but he had a role to fill. He will be ousted, and we’ll watch a Republicam accused of similar things remain president.

We still have a job to do.

Anyone know who would take his place?

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EPR-radar  May 7, 2018 • 4:43:53pm

re: #199 Blind Frog Belly White

Mrs. FBW says similar - that, and suspecting that Trump has threatened family members of prominent Republicans.

I take the much more cynical attitude that Trump freed the GOP from having to put up any pretense of carrying about law, or truth, or democracy, or any of it.

This. Trump has freed Republicans to be the awful people they have truly wanted to be ever since the civil rights realignment, and they are loving it.

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Skip Intro  May 7, 2018 • 4:45:03pm

re: #255 Belafon

He’s fucked and the Trumperiods are going to milk this for all it’s worth for who knows how long.

Fuckity fuckity fuck!

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MsJ  May 7, 2018 • 4:45:55pm
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KGxvi  May 7, 2018 • 4:46:50pm

re: #258 MsJ

Reached for comment, every attorney in America said, “yeah, no shit.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 4:47:56pm

re: #256 EPR-radar

This. Trump has freed Republicans to be the awful people they have truly wanted to be ever since the civil rights realignment, and they are loving it.

It’s worth noting that McConnell announced they would not consider any nomination from Obama to replace Scalia before his body was even cold, and the GOP went along with it, including the NeverTrumpers. That tells you everything you need to know about the GOP and their pretense to respecting the Constitution, rule of law, and democracy.

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BeachDem  May 7, 2018 • 4:48:08pm

re: #257 Skip Intro

He’s fucked and the Trumperiods are going to milk this for all it’s worth for who knows how long.

Fuckity fuckity fuck!

Maggie has tweeted or re-tweeted about it 8 times in the past 55 minutes. Like a dog with a bone.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 4:48:57pm

re: #257 Skip Intro

He’s fucked and the Trumperiods are going to milk this for all it’s worth for who knows how long.

Fuckity fuckity fuck!

The thing about Trump Years is, in a week, nobody will remember it happened.

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Ace Rothstein  May 7, 2018 • 4:49:19pm

re: #258 MsJ

It’s very simple. Trump will never, ever answer any questions, will refuse a subpoena, then plead the fifth when forced to go before the grand jury. Period. Trump is not going anywhere. He will not be impeached. Ever. If Mueller found irrefutable evidence that Trump was engaged in money laundering in his business, he will never be removed from office. Ever. The only way he’s out is if he loses reelection in 2020.

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b.d.  May 7, 2018 • 4:49:49pm

re: #258 MsJ

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I would have no problem Trump answering in writing, if he was put in a room by himself with a pad and pen to do it.

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Skip Intro  May 7, 2018 • 4:50:47pm

re: #262 Blind Frog Belly White

Nobody will ever remember anything about Trump, but Fox and the NYT will make sure this is the story of the year.

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Ace Rothstein  May 7, 2018 • 4:50:54pm

re: #264 b.d. (Be Best)

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ObserverArt  May 7, 2018 • 4:51:02pm

Humans. Often times they can be infuriating and confusing and then let you down.

This is an ‘often’ time.

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EPR-radar  May 7, 2018 • 4:51:56pm

re: #263 Ace Rothstein

It’s very simple. Trump will never, ever answer any questions, will refuse a subpoena, then plead the fifth when forced to go before the grand jury. Period. Trump is not going anywhere. He will not be impeached. Ever. If Mueller found irrefutable evidence that Trump was engaged in money laundering in his business, he will never be removed from office. Ever. The only way he’s out is if he loses reelection in 2020.

This is why I hope part of Mueller’s investigation is looking very seriously into how exactly an arrest of a sitting president on criminal charges can be done. It is unacceptable to have the president literally be above the law if he can’t be impeached and removed from office by Congress.

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EPR-radar  May 7, 2018 • 4:53:48pm

re: #261 BeachDem

Maggie has tweeted or re-tweeted about it 8 times in the past 55 minutes. Like a dog with a bone.

No surprise there. She needs to keep her access to the Orange Menace, and making him happy by repeating news he’s sure to like is perhaps the least degrading way to do so.

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Citizen K  May 7, 2018 • 4:54:00pm

Just caught up on the Schneiderman thing.

Welp.

Mueller may very well be our only actual hope then, like it or not.

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b.d.  May 7, 2018 • 4:54:35pm

re: #239 Ace Rothstein

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A New York Dem has let us down?

Well, there’s a shock….

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MsJ  May 7, 2018 • 4:55:20pm

re: #263 Ace Rothstein

It’s very simple. Trump will never, ever answer any questions, will refuse a subpoena, then plead the fifth when forced to go before the grand jury. Period. Trump is not going anywhere. He will not be impeached. Ever. If Mueller found irrefutable evidence that Trump was engaged in money laundering in his business, he will never be removed from office. Ever. The only way he’s out is if he loses reelection in 2020.

I’d agree with you except all it would take was to get under his skin. Then all bets would be off.

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KGxvi  May 7, 2018 • 4:55:41pm

re: #263 Ace Rothstein

It’s very simple. Trump will never, ever answer any questions, will refuse a subpoena, then plead the fifth when forced to go before the grand jury. Period. Trump is not going anywhere. He will not be impeached. Ever. If Mueller found irrefutable evidence that Trump was engaged in money laundering in his business, he will never be removed from office. Ever. The only way he’s out is if he loses reelection in 2020.

This is all working off of the obvious assumption that there is clearly evidence of criminal wrongdoing:

I think he can be impeached, but I don’t know that he’d be convicted in the Senate. However, I do believe the trial in and of itself would be worth it. It would mean all of the evidence would be made public, it would be the A, B, and C block of every news program for as long as it went on. There would be no way for anyone to hide from the facts of his criminal activity. Maybe he gets bailed out by 34 Republican Senators, but if what we all think is there is actually there, those Republicans are going to go down in history in very bad ways (not to mention, their next election will be entirely about their impeachment vote).

And most importantly, I believe it would make his reelection chances in 2020, “zero” (as Giulliani would say).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 4:56:26pm

re: #266 Ace Rothstein

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soon as I saw that photo…
smell memory is a real thing for me.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 4:57:37pm

re: #265 Skip Intro

Nobody will ever remember anything about Trump, but Fox and the NYT will make sure this is the story of the year.

I disagree. My observation is that the current speed of the news cycle is a two-edged sword. Nothing sticks in the mind anymore. Trump himself both gains and loses by new stories constantly pushing out the old ones. Every time he has a good day, it’s all gone by two days later.

I may be wrong, but I don’t think so.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 4:58:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 5:01:00pm

re: #277 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 5:02:24pm

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah. He’s toast. Deservedly.

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b.d.  May 7, 2018 • 5:02:36pm

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

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What a horrific story about Eric Schneiderman.

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Skip Intro  May 7, 2018 • 5:04:08pm

re: #275 Blind Frog Belly White

Remember, on Fox Hillary Clinton’s server is still BREAKING NEWS!

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 5:04:40pm

re: #266 Ace Rothstein

My memory of First Grade is a big blue pencil with no eraser, and yellow paper so full of wood chips it was like thin, flexible particle board.

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goddamnedfrank  May 7, 2018 • 5:04:50pm

The egg bites were very good THANK YOU INSTANT POT!

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Charles Johnson  May 7, 2018 • 5:05:45pm

Yikes, not Schneiderman too. What the fuck is WRONG with these guys?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 5:06:00pm

re: #281 Skip Intro

Remember, on Fox Hillary Clinton’s server is still BREAKING NEWS!

That’s exactly the point - it’s not Al Franken, or Harvey Weinstein. It’s always Hillary O’Clock at Fox.

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gocart mozart  May 7, 2018 • 5:07:00pm
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b.d.  May 7, 2018 • 5:07:23pm

re: #265 Skip Intro

Nobody will ever remember anything about Trump, but Fox and the NYT will make sure this is the story of the year.

FoxNews will first have to tell their viewers who Eric Schneiderman is, they’ve probably never even dared uttered his name until now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 5:07:35pm

Met Gala is always interesting to me.

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Skip Intro  May 7, 2018 • 5:08:31pm

re: #286 gocart mozart

Better background check the hell out of him first.

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Belafon  May 7, 2018 • 5:09:03pm

re: #281 Skip Intro

Remember, on Fox Hillary Clinton’s server is still BREAKING NEWS!

That’s not in the Dallas Morning News, the Washington Post, or any other mainstream source.

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b.d.  May 7, 2018 • 5:09:07pm

re: #285 Blind Frog Belly White

That’s exactly the point - it’s not Al Franken, or Harvey Weinstein. It’s always Hillary O’Clock at Fox.

It was on at the gym today and they were too busy being OUTRAGED that Michelle Obama said that she couldn’t understand how any woman would ever vote for Trump to talk too much about Hillary.

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Skip Intro  May 7, 2018 • 5:10:16pm

re: #290 Belafon

That’s not in the Dallas Morning News, the Washington Post, or any other mainstream source.

True, it’s only on the source that 40% of the country believes is the only non-fake news out there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 5:10:53pm

someone else on twitter said she looks like a roll of shredded toilet paper.

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EPR-radar  May 7, 2018 • 5:11:19pm

re: #291 b.d. (Be Best)

It was on at the gym today and they were too busy being OUTRAGED that Michelle Obama said that she couldn’t understand how any woman would ever vote for Trump to talk too much about Hillary.

More broadly, there is no motivation for Trump voters that is not sourced in one or more of the seven deadly sins, just like Tump himself is a living avatar of all of the seven.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 5:12:13pm

heh

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ObserverArt  May 7, 2018 • 5:12:24pm

Interesting mews on the Ohio race for Congress District 12 formerly held by Pat Tiberi. It has been in GOP hands for 18 years, held previously by John Kasich before Tiberi.

Since Tiberi announced he was resigning, it went to a special election. Tomorrow is the Ohio primaries. There are 10 GOP runners and 7 Democrats. It is a popular district with a good piece of it in Columbus’ northern parts of the city and suburbs.

A woman reporter (didn’t catch her name as I was out of the room) on Tweety Matthews’ show said Trump’s people and GOP leaders are worried one of the women candidates could win and be unelectable in the general election in November.

They seem to be worried she is bad enough she will get beat by a Democrat just like Roy Moore in Alabama.

I am not familiar with all the candidates, but I have a feeling it is Melanie Leneghan. I don’t know much about her, but she is running many of the commercials I’ve mentioned are all about the GOP watch-words.

If this even has a chance to become a Democratic district I am amazed. I would never have guessed it is up for contention.

So, tomorrow I hope she wins the primary. She seems to have some big dollars backing her. I am going to have to do more reading on her. All I know is I don’t like her just based on the commercials. One of them posted below.

Melanie Leneghan Real Conservative

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Stanley Sea  May 7, 2018 • 5:12:38pm

re: #286 gocart mozart

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It’s an elected position?

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makeitstop  May 7, 2018 • 5:13:22pm

And here’s the bad news.

NYS lege is under Republican control, due to one Democrats caucusing with the Rs.

This is gonna suck. Like, really suck.

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Stanley Sea  May 7, 2018 • 5:13:55pm

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

Met Gala is always interesting to me.

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Solange said fuck you safe people (her pll on the outfit )

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 5:15:18pm

re: #291 b.d. (Be Best)

It was on at the gym today and they were too busy being OUTRAGED that Michelle Obama said that she couldn’t understand how any woman would ever vote for Trump to talk too much about Hillary.

The weird thing about their Hillary obsession is that she never truly goes away. I mean, Hannity keeps doing shows about her, and it’s been a year and a half. Oh, they’ll indulge in some Michelle-bashing for a day, but they’ll be back on Hillary once that cools down. It’s the one thing that seems as constant as the Northern Star. I mean, even the GOP can’t decide whether to run against Nancy Pelosi, or Hillary Clinton in the 2018 election, and only one of them is even running for anything.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 5:16:10pm

re: #299 Stanley Sea

Solange said fuck you safe people (her pll on the outfit )

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Skip Intro  May 7, 2018 • 5:16:15pm

re: #298 makeitstop

You can always count on a Dem to hand victory to the GOP. Then, of course, there’s Bernie who helped hand the country to them and looks like he plans on doing it again.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 5:16:27pm

He’s got a point.

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Skip Intro  May 7, 2018 • 5:17:56pm

re: #298 makeitstop

And here’s the bad news.

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NYS lege is under Republican control, due to one Democrats caucusing with the Rs.

This is gonna suck. Like, really suck.

So now it is all down to Mueller.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 7, 2018 • 5:19:32pm

re: #280 b.d. (Be Best)

What a horrific story about Eric Schneiderman.

I feel like I’m trapped in the Harlan Ellison story “I have no mouth and I must scream”. Why are these men who are fighting for truth and justice so terribly flawed? Trump can get away with anything — but others, Democrats and (it appears) most Republicans are damaged beyond repair and forced out. Of course, as others have said, Al Franken was undeservedly forced out, but most of these politicians are guilty of the accusations.

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EPR-radar  May 7, 2018 • 5:20:18pm

re: #300 Blind Frog Belly White

The weird thing about their Hillary obsession is that she never truly goes away. I mean, Hannity keeps doing shows about her, and it’s been a year and a half. Oh, they’ll indulge in some Michelle-bashing for a day, but they’ll be back on Hillary once that cools down. It’s the one thing that seems as constant as the Northern Star. I mean, even the GOP can’t decide whether to run against Nancy Pelosi, or Hillary Clinton in the 2018 election, and only one of them is even running for anything.

The GOP anti-Hillary Clinton effort is a leviathan of propaganda. It does not change its course/target quickly or easily. What happens to 30 years of anti-Clinton propaganda hard-wired into the tiny minds of Fox News cultists when the object of their hatred is no longer a contender for the presidency?

It wouldn’t surprise me at all to see Fox News and the GOP really try to make an Emmanuel Goldstein out of Hillary Clinton.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 7, 2018 • 5:20:44pm

re: #303 Blind Frog Belly White

Didn’t Bill Kristol made the same suggestion several months ago?

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gocart mozart  May 7, 2018 • 5:23:00pm

re: #297 Stanley Sea

I assume he means Preet should run for office. Just looked it up, 2018 is the next election for A.G. Preet should run.

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Citizen K  May 7, 2018 • 5:23:00pm

re: #281 Skip Intro

Remember, on Fox Hillary Clinton’s server is still BREAKING NEWS!

Yep. They’re going to latch the fuck on to this to try and destroy any credibility the corruption probes had. re: #298 makeitstop

And here’s the bad news.

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NYS lege is under Republican control, due to one Democrats caucusing with the Rs.

This is gonna suck. Like, really suck.

Welp. There goes our chance for some state level bite as back up for the Mueller shit.

Fan-fucking-tastic….

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gocart mozart  May 7, 2018 • 5:24:06pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 5:27:36pm

re: #310 gocart mozart

You just know if Trayvon had been white, the story would be about the creepy Latino stalker killing a kid who was Standing His Ground.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 7, 2018 • 5:28:15pm

re: #309 Citizen K

Yep. They’re going to latch the fuck on to this to try and destroy any credibility the corruption probes had.

Welp. There goes our chance for some state level bite as back up for the Mueller shit.

Fan-fucking-tastic….

California bides her time.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 5:28:24pm

re: #311 Blind Frog Belly White

You just know if Trayvon had been white, the story would be about the creepy Latino stalker killing a kid who was Standing His Ground.

Of course it would be.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 5:28:43pm

OT: Damn it Schneiderman. I really thought he was one of the good guys but the fight must go on.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2018 • 5:28:45pm

re: #284 Charles Johnson

Yikes, not Schneiderman too. What the fuck is WRONG with these guys?

Power corrupts. Plain and simple.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 5:29:47pm

To say nothing of his mendacity…

I bet if Trump ever did testify, Mueller would just let him talk, while throwing in the odd encouragement. Then just spend the next week weeding through the transcript for all the perjury.

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Citizen K  May 7, 2018 • 5:30:54pm
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goddamnedfrank  May 7, 2018 • 5:31:21pm

re: #308 gocart mozart

I assume he means Preet should run for office. Just looked it up, 2018 is the next election for A.G. Preet should run.

Not a great idea. Since Trump fired Preet he could reasonably be expected to recuse himself from any investigation of Trump, Trump’s family and possibly any Trump administration officials. The last thing the New York AG’s office needs is an air of revenge surrounding any investigations they undertake going forward.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 5:31:44pm

re: #315 Eclectic Cyborg

Power corrupts. Plain and simple.

I think power reveals who you are, and I think that the desire for power may be comorbid with a number of other, less savory traits.

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ObserverArt  May 7, 2018 • 5:32:06pm

A bit more to add to my #296.

Melanie Leneghan is from Powell Ohio, which just happens to be where I worked for 7 years. She was a Liberty Township trustee and wasn’t liked too much. She apparently was reprimanded for harassment for calling A Liberty Township female firefighter a “the token female on the squad.”

Also, she is being pushed by Freedumb Caucus asshole Jim Jordan the often-in-the-news Republican of Ohio District 4.

Apparently Tump and other GOPers are worried about her. Maybe they do not like Jordan, but that doesn’t make sense because he is doing everything he can to save Trump. This is weird. Gonna keep reading…

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 5:32:07pm

re: #317 Citizen K

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What pisses me off is Cheeto has won. He’s President. I’m fine with Schneiderman being held accountable. But I’m not fine with the continued elephant in the room.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2018 • 5:32:40pm

The wingnut gloating about Schneiderman is going to be unbearable.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 5:32:56pm

re: #320 ObserverArt

A bit more to add to my #296.

Melanie Leneghan is from Powell Ohio, which just happens to be where I worked for 7 years. She was a Liberty Township trustee and wasn’t liked too much. She apparently was reprimanded for harassment for calling A Liberty Township female firefighter a “the token female on the squad.”

Also, she is being pushed by Freedumb Caucus asshole Jim Jordan the often-in-the-news Republican of Ohio District 4.

Apparently Tump and other GOPers are worried about her. Maybe they do not like Jordan, but that doesn’t make sense because he is doing everything he can to save Trump. This is weird. Gonna keep reading…

They’re probably worried about her electability. Trump’s come out against Blankenship too.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 5:33:34pm

re: #322 Eclectic Cyborg

The wingnut gloating about Schneiderman is going to be unbearable.

Doesn’t change the fact that they flaunted Trump bragging about grabbing pussy. You’re not going to see Democrats defending this. That’s the difference.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 7, 2018 • 5:33:41pm

Damn, Now Cuomo is calling for Schneiderman to resign…

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 5:33:46pm

re: #322 Eclectic Cyborg

The wingnut gloating about Schneiderman is going to be unbearable.

And you know what? Fuck ‘em.

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Citizen K  May 7, 2018 • 5:34:21pm

re: #321 HappyWarrior

What pisses me off is Cheeto has won. He’s President. I’m fine with Schneiderman being held accountable. But I’m not fine with the continued elephant in the room.

By all means, hold him accountable. The one thing I’ve noticed is almost no one is going to bat in defense for him over this, especially on our side. That’s admirable, but it still means we’re pretty much stuck in the woods again, and seeing the media’s gleeful Trump-fuckery makes me brace for the eventual ratfuck this November and 2020 all the more.

There are simply no actual checks on Trump at this point except Mueller. That’s the damned facts at this point, and it shows how fucking dire the state of things are.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 5:34:42pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 5:36:16pm
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BeachDem  May 7, 2018 • 5:37:08pm

re: #298 makeitstop

And here’s the bad news.

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NYS lege is under Republican control, due to one Democrats caucusing with the Rs.

This is gonna suck. Like, really suck.

??? (I don’t know who’s right—just thought I’d throw it out there)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 5:37:15pm

jeez…

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ObserverArt  May 7, 2018 • 5:38:11pm

re: #317 Citizen K

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Yeah quitting is going to help a whole lot.

Wanna know why Democrats lose?

Maybe it is because they give up the fight all the time by wallowing in their own self-defeat. How can you ever win if you expect to lose?

Gah!!! I’ll stop there. I made myself a promise to let this shit be.

I will say though, I am as frustrated by Democrats like this as I am in Republicans

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Unshaken Defiance  May 7, 2018 • 5:38:32pm

re: #322 Eclectic Cyborg

The wingnut gloating about Schneiderman is going to be unbearable.

Yes it’s gonna suck for a minute or two. But the real play here is unhesitating enforcement of the rules. no matter who. Our side, their side, loved, hated, misunderstood or overplayed. Sooner or later that gets to Trump as long as we don’t flinch because “one of ours”. This is a terrible price to pay but it buys moral authority. And to hell with these guys that keep this crap up. Those of us who were polite, took no for an answer, refrained from talking trash about the women who said no… must insist.

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EPR-radar  May 7, 2018 • 5:38:38pm

re: #327 Citizen K

By all means, hold him accountable. The one thing I’ve noticed is almost no one is going to bat in defense for him over this, especially on our side. That’s admirable, but it still means we’re pretty much stuck in the woods again, and seeing the media’s gleeful Trump-fuckery makes me brace for the eventual ratfuck this November and 2020 all the more.

There are simply no actual checks on Trump at this point except Mueller. That’s the damned facts at this point, and it shows how fucking dire the state of things are.

Mueller has to find a way to arrest and try Trump for his crimes, or the investigation will almost certainly be for nothing. This is the long game of Republicans turning impeachment into a partisan farce vs. Bill Clinton. It was so that when a future Republican president (inevitably) needed to be impeached and removed from office, they could cover for him in Congress and get the media to accept a GOP narrative that any impeachment of a Republican president is just the Democrats trying to get even from the Bill Clinton impeachment.

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Ace Rothstein  May 7, 2018 • 5:38:59pm

re: #316 Blind Frog Belly White

He’s never going to testify. He will plead the fifth and get away with it. The Schneiderman story today assures it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 5:39:02pm

as to the OP:

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 5:40:16pm

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You work for Donald Trump. Shut the fuck up Kellyanne.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 7, 2018 • 5:40:17pm

Hey most of you probably noticed it, but if a beauty break would be refreshing try this Page.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 5:41:45pm

Kellyanne’s boss, a man accused of sexual assault, a man who was quoted as saying that you need to treat women like shit. Fuck her fake self righteous bullshit on Schneiderman.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 5:42:24pm
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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 5:42:37pm

re: #334 EPR-radar

Mueller has to find a way to arrest and try Trump for his crimes, or the investigation will almost certainly be for nothing. This is the long game of Republicans turning impeachment into a partisan farce vs. Bill Clinton. It was so that when a future Republican president (inevitably) needed to be impeached and removed from office, they could cover for him in Congress and get the media to accept a GOP narrative that any impeachment of a Republican president is just the Democrats trying to get even from the Bill Clinton impeachment.

Which is why I’m glad Mueller isn’t rushing this. Rushing leads to mistakes. We can’t afford mistakes getting rid of this miserable piece of shit.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2018 • 5:42:43pm

re: #324 HappyWarrior

Doesn’t change the fact that they flaunted Trump bragging about grabbing pussy. You’re not going to see Democrats defending this. That’s the difference.

That’s the problem. Allegations alone can sink any Dem but the GOP are practically untouchable. There are rare exceptions like Roy Moore, but as I’ve said before it’s all but impossible to win a game when your opponent is playing with a different set of rules.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 5:43:54pm

re: #342 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s the problem. Allegations alone can sink any Dem but the GOP are practically untouchable. There are rare exceptions like Roy Moore, but as I’ve said before it’s all but impossible to win a game when your opponent is playing with a different set of rules.

Yep. Don Blankenship, a man whose actios led to the death of 29 people could well be the REpublican nominee for Senate tomorrow.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 5:44:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 5:44:48pm

re: #343 HappyWarrior

Yep. Don Blankenship, a man whose actios led to the death of 29 people could well be the REpublican nominee for Senate tomorrow.

and then he faces Joe Manchin in November.
bloodbath comes to mind…

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 5:45:54pm

re: #345 Backwoods_Sleuth

and then he faces Joe Manchin in November.
bloodbath comes to mind…

The R establishment seems worried about Blankenship’s chances but honestly I think he could well win. He’s exactly the kind of guy Republicans orgasm at the chance to vote for.

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BeachDem  May 7, 2018 • 5:46:35pm

re: #320 ObserverArt

A bit more to add to my #296.

Melanie Leneghan is from Powell Ohio, which just happens to be where I worked for 7 years. She was a Liberty Township trustee and wasn’t liked too much. She apparently was reprimanded for harassment for calling A Liberty Township female firefighter a “the token female on the squad.”

Also, she is being pushed by Freedumb Caucus asshole Jim Jordan the often-in-the-news Republican of Ohio District 4.

Apparently Tump and other GOPers are worried about her. Maybe they do not like Jordan, but that doesn’t make sense because he is doing everything he can to save Trump. This is weird. Gonna keep reading…

A pretty good kos diary about it, with links.

dailykos.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2018 • 5:47:58pm

Another issue are the bases. The GOP base will tolerate almost anything as long as a Republican holds the line on God, Guns and no Illegals. The Democratic base is more complex and will abandon candidates and elected officials for a variety of offenses, both real and perceived.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 5:48:36pm

re: #346 HappyWarrior

The R establishment seems worried about Blankenship’s chances but honestly I think he could well win. He’s exactly the kind of guy Republicans orgasm at the chance to vote for.

Blankenship doesn’t stand a chance against Manchin.
Not. A. Chance.

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Cheechako  May 7, 2018 • 5:49:16pm

re: #58 Barefoot Grin

Be Best—well, at least we know it wasn’t plagiarized.

Of course it was plagiarized. Remember the U.S. Army’s pitch “To Be The Best You Ban Be”?

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 5:50:02pm

re: #349 Backwoods_Sleuth

Blankenship doesn’t stand a chance against Manchin.
Not. A. Chance.

I hope you’re right.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 7, 2018 • 5:50:05pm

re: #341 HappyWarrior

Which is why I’m glad Mueller isn’t rushing this. Rushing leads to mistakes. We can’t afford mistakes getting rid of this miserable piece of shit.

There was some discussion on NPR about how the window is closing pending mid terms. I happen to think waiting till after those is essential. We must have fewer Republicans in congress and the senate when this goes down.

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gocart mozart  May 7, 2018 • 5:50:25pm

re: #330 BeachDem

Who is the #2 person in the New York A.G.’s office. I think they may be acting A.G. until the election.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 5:51:32pm

re: #352 Unshaken Defiance

There was some discussion on NPR about how the window is closing pending mid terms. I happen to think waiting till after those is essential. We must have fewer Republicans in congress and the senate when this goes down.

We need the House to do its own investigations. There’s so much rotten about this entire admin.

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BeachDem  May 7, 2018 • 5:51:47pm

re: #333 Unshaken Defiance

Yes it’s gonna suck for a minute or two. But the real play here is unhesitating enforcement of the rules. no matter who. Our side, their side, loved, hated, misunderstood or overplayed. Sooner or later that gets to Trump as long as we don’t flinch because “one of ours”. This is a terrible price to pay but it buys moral authority. And to hell with these guys that keep this crap up. Those of us who were polite, took no for an answer, refrained from talking trash about the women who said no… must insist.

I don’t know about the “sooner or later this gets to Trump.”

I’ve often said that in order for what goes around to come around, I will need to live to be 180 years old (and, unlike Doctor Ronny said about the yam, I’m not sure my genes are that good.)

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Citizen K  May 7, 2018 • 5:53:18pm

re: #355 BeachDem

I don’t know about the “sooner or later this gets to Trump.”

I’ve often said that in order for what goes around to come around, I will need to live to be 180 years old (and, unlike Doctor Ronny said about the yam, I’m not sure my genes are that good.)

If ‘what goes aorund comes around’ actually worked, Trump woudn’t be in the position where he is, period.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 7, 2018 • 5:53:55pm

re: #351 HappyWarrior

I hope you’re right.

Blankenship is exactly the kind of criminal we want the GOP to nominate in the Democrats long shot bid to win the Senate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 5:56:10pm

re: #353 gocart mozart

Who is the #2 person in the New York A.G.’s office. I think they may be acting A.G. until the election.

Alvin Bragg:
ag.ny.gov

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ObserverArt  May 7, 2018 • 5:56:42pm

re: #351 HappyWarrior

I hope you’re right.

This may be one of the times we all need to understand why he takes the stands he takes that piss off so many Democrats. It allows him to stay in that seat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 5:57:35pm

re: #351 HappyWarrior

I hope you’re right.

Blankenship is just not a likeable person.
And he smells bad.

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makeitstop  May 7, 2018 • 5:57:55pm

re: #350 Cheechako

Of course it was plagiarized. Remember the U.S. Army’s pitch “To Be The Best You Ban Be”?

That was ‘Be all that you can be.’

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 5:58:21pm

re: #357 Big Beautiful Door

Blankenship is exactly the kind of criminal we want the GOP to nominate in the Democrats long shot bid to win the Senate.

I agree with that.

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Citizen K  May 7, 2018 • 5:58:34pm

re: #357 Big Beautiful Door

Blankenship is exactly the kind of criminal we want the GOP to nominate in the Democrats long shot bid to win the Senate.

My counterpoint to that is that this is what many said precisely about Trump.

We may continue to underestimate just how much the Magic (R), racism, and et. al. make even the most blatantly criminal and ridiculous of candidates palatable enough to be winners. I just hope the WV Dem Party doesn’t look past Blankenship if he wins the nom, because we’ve seen how quickly assholes like Blankenship can be forgiven long as it can spite at least one Dem.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 5:59:02pm

re: #360 Backwoods_Sleuth

Blankenship is just not a likeable person.
And he smells bad.

Neither is Trump. I just hope he gets his ass kicked hard.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 6:00:08pm

re: #363 Citizen K

My counterpoint to that is that this is what many said precisely about Trump.

We may continue to underestimate just how much the Magic (R), racism, and et. al. make even the most blatantly criminal and ridiculous of candidates palatable enough to be winners. I just hope the WV Dem Party doesn’t look past Blankenship if he wins the nom, because we’ve seen how quickly assholes like Blankenship can be forgiven long as it can spite at least one Dem.

No way Manchin would do that.

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gocart mozart  May 7, 2018 • 6:01:42pm

My little psycho friend comments again

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 6:02:03pm

re: #364 HappyWarrior

Neither is Trump. I just hope he gets his ass kicked hard.

West Virginia is a lot smaller and there’s actual one-on-one meet and greet that is required. Trump was able to avoid that pesky detail.
Totally not the same thing.

And despite what some news reports claim, Blankenship is not generally liked in WV.

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makeitstop  May 7, 2018 • 6:05:27pm

A sliver of light in the Schneiderman thing.

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ObserverArt  May 7, 2018 • 6:06:30pm

re: #347 BeachDem

A pretty good kos diary about it, with links.

dailykos.com

Thanks for that Dem…that clears things up a bit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 6:06:50pm

re: #368 makeitstop

A sliver of light in the Schneiderman thing.

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yep. who I said in #358

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 6:08:08pm

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep. who I said in #358

Alvin L. Bragg, Jr. serves as Chief Deputy Attorney General. Mr. Bragg previously served as Executive Deputy Attorney General for Social Justice, and was an Assistant United States Attorney in the Criminal Division of the United States Attorney’s Office in New York’s Southern District, where he investigated and prosecuted misconduct by elected officials and law enforcement, money laundering of narcotics proceeds, bank fraud, witness tampering, and fraud relating to government contracts. Mr. Bragg also served as the Chief of Litigation and Investigations at the New York City Council and was in private practice at the firm now known as Morvillo Abramowitz Grand Iason & Anello P.C. Immediately after law school, he served as a law clerk for the Honorable Robert P. Patterson, Jr., U.S. District Judge, Southern District of New York. Mr. Bragg received his A.B. from Harvard University, cum laude, and his J.D. from Harvard Law School.

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BeachDem  May 7, 2018 • 6:09:00pm

re: #369 ObserverArt

Thanks for that Dem…that clears things up a bit.

Since I lived in that dog-forsaken district for much of my time in Ohio, it’s all in pretty sharp focus.

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Belafon  May 7, 2018 • 6:09:29pm

re: #368 makeitstop

A sliver of light in the Schneiderman thing.

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Copy that tweet to the next thread.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 6:09:44pm

re: #366 gocart mozart

My little psycho friend comments again

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Democrat slave trade? Considering the slave trade started long before parties existed and in fact was abolished before the Democratic Party. Oh and abortion. The judges that helped legalize it were Republicans but nice try Republican fuckwits.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 6:10:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 6:36:38pm

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