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Ace Rothstein  May 7, 2018 • 5:53:27pm

You won, Trump. For now.

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Patricia Kayden  May 7, 2018 • 6:03:06pm

re: #1 Ace Rothstein

You won, Trump. For now.

Yeah. Thanks Schneiderman. We were counting on you. Perhaps the remaining lawyers can take over and go after Trump and his imps. Sigh.

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Belafon  May 7, 2018 • 6:03:33pm

Steven Univerrrrrrrse!!!

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Belafon  May 7, 2018 • 6:06:11pm

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: It is up to us to fix this country. Schneiderman and Mueller had and have particular roles to play, albeit more than the average person, but even if they win their part, it won’t fix anything. Some of the right people will get charged, which is very useful, but the only way we’re going to fix what is going wrong is to vote Republicans out of office and keep them out of office.

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BigPapa  May 7, 2018 • 6:11:04pm

Preet Bharara’s name is being dropped to replace Schneiderman. That’s not official.

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ipsos  May 7, 2018 • 6:13:18pm

I’m pissed about Schneiderman, of course. But his staff will keep doing what they do. His replacement will be a Democrat. Whatever investigations are going on won’t stop.

That IS the rule of law in action, and my state still has a functioning government. Schneiderman resigning won’t change any of those facts.

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Belafon  May 7, 2018 • 6:13:40pm

re: #5 BigPapa

Preet Bharara’s name is being dropped to replace Schneiderman. That’s not official.

As someone said in the last thread, he was fired by Trump. He’d probably have to recuse himself from anything involving Trump.

It sounds like the Deputy AG will be a good fit.

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BigPapa  May 7, 2018 • 6:14:08pm

A whole month’s worth of bullshit happened in the last 24 hours.

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Ace-o-aces  May 7, 2018 • 6:15:43pm
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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 6:16:41pm

re: #9 Ace-o-aces

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Dude your side is filled with people who blame gays for natural disasters. Shut up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 6:16:42pm

re: #7 Belafon

As someone said in the last thread, he was fired by Trump. He’d probably have to recuse himself from anything involving Trump.

It sounds like the Deputy AG will be a good fit.

Chief Deputy AG:

Alvin L. Bragg, Jr. serves as Chief Deputy Attorney General. Mr. Bragg previously served as Executive Deputy Attorney General for Social Justice, and was an Assistant United States Attorney in the Criminal Division of the United States Attorney’s Office in New York’s Southern District, where he investigated and prosecuted misconduct by elected officials and law enforcement, money laundering of narcotics proceeds, bank fraud, witness tampering, and fraud relating to government contracts. Mr. Bragg also served as the Chief of Litigation and Investigations at the New York City Council and was in private practice at the firm now known as Morvillo Abramowitz Grand Iason & Anello P.C. Immediately after law school, he served as a law clerk for the Honorable Robert P. Patterson, Jr., U.S. District Judge, Southern District of New York. Mr. Bragg received his A.B. from Harvard University, cum laude, and his J.D. from Harvard Law School.

ag.ny.gov

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Belafon  May 7, 2018 • 6:16:47pm

I personally think we’re in a cold civil war right now, especially with 40% of the county either hoping we get a fascists-religious state or not caring if we do. I think we’re going to win ultimately, but we’re going to have setbacks. And, like in any war, sometimes people on your side do something that requires you to remove them from their job (think MacArthur and Korea). But there’s more than just that one person.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 6:17:30pm

re: #12 Belafon

I personally think we’re in a cold civil war right now, especially with 40% of the county either hoping we get a fascists-religious state or not caring if we do. I think we’re going to win ultimately, but we’re going to have setbacks. And, like in any war, sometimes people on your side do something that requires you to remove them from their job (think MacArthur and Korea). But there’s more than just that one person.

It feels like Spain in the 30’s.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 7, 2018 • 6:18:44pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

It feels like Spain in the 30’s.

Too true by more than half.

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Belafon  May 7, 2018 • 6:18:57pm

And just remember, the other side is A-OK with having a sexual predator as president. I will not let that be how we go out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 6:20:07pm
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Unshaken Defiance  May 7, 2018 • 6:21:15pm

re: #15 Belafon

And just remember, the other side is A-OK with having a sexual predator as president. I will not let that be how we go out.

“Ask me about this after the pussy grabber/marital Rapist In Chief is dead, in jail or at least run out of office. Until then, shut up.

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 6:21:32pm
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meteor  May 7, 2018 • 6:21:54pm
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makeitstop  May 7, 2018 • 6:23:34pm

re: #5 BigPapa

Preet Bharara’s name is being dropped to replace Schneiderman. That’s not official.

GDFrank pointed out earlier that it wouldn’t be a good idea. Trump fired Bharara, so Preet would have to recuse himself.

His backup might not be so bad.

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freetoken  May 7, 2018 • 6:23:38pm

re: #12 Belafon

I personally think we’re in a cold civil war right now, …

Interesting idea.

Note that for some time now the idea of a “culture war” has been kicked around.

Perhaps we could look at Donald Trump as one side in said culture war going deep into an offensive against the other side(s)?

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William Lewis  May 7, 2018 • 6:23:42pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

It feels like Spain in the 30’s.

Right before Franco’s coup…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 6:23:51pm

dana, dana, dana….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 6:25:34pm

re: #18 JordanRules

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He should be wearing his magic underwear, in keeping with this year’s theme.

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Single-handed sailor  May 7, 2018 • 6:29:28pm

re: #18 JordanRules

Why won’t Mitt just take up knitting and go away?

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Stanley Sea  May 7, 2018 • 6:29:28pm

re: #18 JordanRules

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30k admission

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 6:30:01pm

re: #22 William Lewis

Right before Franco’s coup…

Yep. I hope for a better ending but I’m afraid we might see civil armed strife in our lifetimes. We’ve been fortunate to avoid it in the past 150 years.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 7, 2018 • 6:30:20pm

Like the diseased zombies in World War Z: they can sniff out those Not Like Them.

Although: Blankenship is calling Roy Moore a child molester. So there’s that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 6:30:55pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 6:31:20pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

dana, dana, dana….

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North was guilty, but got off on a technicality, which is the kind of thing the Right used to claim to hate.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 7, 2018 • 6:35:45pm

re: #12 Belafon

We have our secret weapon, the Stealth Lizard army. One lone soldier on patrol on the high ground.

Found this guy yesterday sunning at 6000 feet.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 7, 2018 • 6:36:29pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

It feels like Spain in the 30’s.

Soft Construction With Boiled Beans (Premonition of Civil War)
By Salvador Dalí

Studied this one in art history wayyyyyy back when. Stuck in my mind.

In our current age, the fact on the gleeful, malevolent know-nothing would be Sean Hannity or Rupert Murdoch. The foot would be squishing an immigrant.

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 6:37:07pm
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freetoken  May 7, 2018 • 6:37:10pm

re: #25 Single-handed sailor

Why won’t Mitt just take up knitting and go away?

Romney has to go into a runoff for the Senate seat from Utah, because he came in behind Trumper Mike Kennedy in the prelim.

So think of that.

Even when Romney kisses Trump’s ass, an even more nutty wingnut got more Utah Republican delegates endorsements.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 7, 2018 • 6:41:02pm

re: #30 Blind Frog Belly White

North was guilty, but got off on a technicality, which is the kind of thing the Right used to claim to hate.

If you really want to follow this down the rabbit hole…

Ollie North funneled weapons to Iran so they’d release American hostages. They knew it was wrong. But the RWNJs needed Reagan to get re-elected, and they absolutely feared him looking like Jimmy Carter, emasculated by Iranian hostage-takers.

Said weapons tipped the balance of power in the war against Iraq. Iran started winning.

In a panic, we started quietly funneling weapons to a dictator named Saddam Hussein so he could fight off the Iranians. Hussein used some of that to gas his own people and turned the tide.

A few years later, Hussein, still thinking he had carte blanche because he’d carried water for the U.S., invaded Kuwait …

… you all can take it from there.

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ObserverArt  May 7, 2018 • 6:43:56pm

re: #33 JordanRules

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I can no longer tell the difference between these cops from Russia in action and cops from America, say in Ferguson Missouri.

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Interesting Times  May 7, 2018 • 6:44:07pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 6:44:57pm
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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 6:46:29pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah they don’t care about the victims. They’re in for a rude awakening because the case won’t close if Schneidermann leaves.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 6:47:22pm
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Belafon  May 7, 2018 • 6:50:14pm

I will also say that the Women’s marches, science marches, and March For Our Lives have done more to help fix what has happened to us than Mueller or Schneiderman. We shouldn’t be waiting for them (and I know plenty of people here haven’t been).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 6:51:45pm
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Charles Johnson  May 7, 2018 • 6:52:35pm
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BigPapa  May 7, 2018 • 6:53:18pm

Boy, bye.

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freetoken  May 7, 2018 • 6:54:13pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

It’s best that he resigned quickly. This will help take the item off the front page in the very short news cycles we have today.

Hoping his replacement comes out swinging against the Trump crime family.

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ipsos  May 7, 2018 • 6:57:14pm

I think Schneiderman did the only right thing there was to do. You really can’t read the reporting Mayer and Farrow did and see much room to think he’s innocent. It’s very different from the anonymous, questionable allegations against Franken - and Schneiderman’s near-immediate resignation tells me he knew it, too.

And it doesn’t for one second change the fact that the Republicans have someone at the top of their heap nationally who’s verifiably done all of these things and much worse, and yet they keep enabling him to stay in office.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 6:58:23pm
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Interesting Times  May 7, 2018 • 6:58:56pm

Trumpchumps behaving like obnoxious little gloattrolls? Show them this:

No, it won’t change the minds of the trumpchumps, but repeat it often enough and it might sink into the minds of low-info voters.

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Belafon  May 7, 2018 • 7:01:25pm

Someone noticed that the silence in Donald Glover’s video, where he pauses to light a joint, is exactly 17 seconds long.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 7, 2018 • 7:01:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 7, 2018 • 7:02:40pm
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makeitstop  May 7, 2018 • 7:03:39pm

re: #45 freetoken

It’s best that he resigned quickly. This will help take the item off the front page in the very short news cycles we have today.

Hoping his replacement comes out swinging against the Trump crime family.

I’d almost rather they put their heads down and go to work, and keep a low profile while they continue the investigation.

They should follow the Mueller model and lock that office down.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 7:03:50pm

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He resigned. They’re investigating the allegations. You know what your boss has never done.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 7:06:42pm

He’s going to have some juvenile nickname in the morning.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 7:07:05pm

And we know Beavis and Butthead will comment too.

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Belafon  May 7, 2018 • 7:09:38pm

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Reading through the comments, one of them was “We have a weak Attorney General in Sessions because the Obama administration got away with a bunch of stuff and haven’t been prosecuted.” So desperate.

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BeachDem  May 7, 2018 • 7:15:04pm

re: #54 HappyWarrior

He’s going to have some juvenile nickname in the morning.

He can just go to his twitter archive—he’s been woofing about Schneiderman since 2013 and the Trump University case.

trumptwitterarchive.com

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Ace-o-aces  May 7, 2018 • 7:15:17pm
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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 7:16:51pm

re: #58 Ace-o-aces

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A Trumper lecturing on decency? That’s a good one. Oh and he found about his Dad being a fucking philandering pig through his father’s fat mouth in the tabloids. Schneiderman being a douche doesn’t change anything about Donald despite what his stupid fuckwit of a son believes.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 7, 2018 • 7:17:06pm

A touch of humor on an ugly night
Twitter pummels Tom Brady

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Unshaken Defiance  May 7, 2018 • 7:18:07pm
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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 7:19:24pm

Not one word of compassion. Just gloating. I’m sure the victims love hearing that.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 7, 2018 • 7:21:10pm

Somebody said Bill Cosby’s life is ruined. Nobody will hire him or wants him on their show. All he can do now is run for President.

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Interesting Times  May 7, 2018 • 7:21:14pm

This is why, no matter how dark and bleak her writing may be at times, I consider it empowering in the end:

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Ace-o-aces  May 7, 2018 • 7:21:36pm

re: #59 HappyWarrior

A Trumper lecturing on decency? That’s a good one. Oh and he found about his Dad being a fucking philandering pig through his father’s fat mouth in the tabloids. Schneiderman being a douche doesn’t change anything about Donald despite what his stupid fuckwit of a son believes.

This one’s a real piece of work:

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mmmirele  May 7, 2018 • 7:22:08pm

I watched the Childish Gambino video “This is America” and I read what people here had to say. In my opinion, and I could be wrong, the guy on the horse with the cop car following behind could be more than just Death with Hell following after. I thought it also had overtones of slave overseers on their horses, watching the slaves in the fields during antebellum times, followed by today’s version of the guys in cop cars watching over black communities with ill intent. Plus I thought Gambino was evoking slavery by being shirtless and at first glance, appearing barefoot. I think that was brought home by the end scene of Gambino running away from blurred pursuers.

Of course, I am only a middle-aged white woman who is not so experienced in reading symbols in videos not made for me (hello, Lemonade), so I could be completely wrong.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 7:22:25pm

re: #65 Ace-o-aces

This one’s a real piece of work:

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They can go fuck themselves with Trump’s small dick.

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scottslemmons  May 7, 2018 • 7:22:54pm

re: #62 HappyWarrior

Not one word of compassion. Just gloating. I’m sure the victims love hearing that.

Compassion? From Trump supporters?

We got 63 million sociopaths in this country. If you offered any of them $30 to cut up a baby…

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 7:23:18pm

re: #68 scottslemmons

Compassion? From Trump supporters?

We got 63 million sociopaths in this country. If you offered any of them $30 to cut up a baby…

Oh I’m not surprised at all.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 7:24:14pm

re: #66 mmmirele

I watched the Childish Gambino video “This is America” and I read what people here had to say. In my opinion, and I could be wrong, the guy on the horse with the cop car following behind could be more than just Death with Hell following after. I thought it also had overtones of slave overseers on their horses, watching the slaves in the fields during antebellum times, followed by today’s version of the guys in cop cars watching over black communities with ill intent. Plus I thought Gambino was evoking slavery by being shirtless and at first glance, appearing barefoot. I think that was brought home by the end scene of Gambino running away from blurred pursuers.

Of course, I am only a middle-aged white woman who is not so experienced in reading symbols in videos not made for me (hello, Lemonade), so I could be completely wrong.

I wouldn’t be surprised. He’s an quite intelligent guy. I love how he got his stage name.

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 7:29:14pm
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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 7:29:45pm
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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 7:30:18pm

re: #72 JordanRules

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He might hit her.

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Belafon  May 7, 2018 • 7:32:05pm

re: #72 JordanRules

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She’s a big girl. She can either deal with the press or leave.

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Belafon  May 7, 2018 • 7:35:35pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 7, 2018 • 7:35:43pm
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ObserverArt  May 7, 2018 • 7:37:41pm

re: #66 mmmirele

I watched the Childish Gambino video “This is America” and I read what people here had to say. In my opinion, and I could be wrong, the guy on the horse with the cop car following behind could be more than just Death with Hell following after. I thought it also had overtones of slave overseers on their horses, watching the slaves in the fields during antebellum times, followed by today’s version of the guys in cop cars watching over black communities with ill intent. Plus I thought Gambino was evoking slavery by being shirtless and at first glance, appearing barefoot. I think that was brought home by the end scene of Gambino running away from blurred pursuers.

Of course, I am only a middle-aged white woman who is not so experienced in reading symbols in videos not made for me (hello, Lemonade), so I could be completely wrong.

Good art does not have to have one meaning. It can mean different things to different people.

The artist may have one idea in mind when he created it, but then again he may even have wanted it to be open enough to illicit all kinds of thinking.

The fact he is getting this much buzz over that video is pretty cool. Since we are all debating the meaning is great. I think he did his job. Very well. After seeing him on SNL, he is a great singer and actor/comedian. He’s got a hell of a future. And he’s cool.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 7, 2018 • 7:39:26pm

You know the Yam will be boast tweeting about Schneiderman tomorrow morning right?

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Belafon  May 7, 2018 • 7:41:01pm

re: #78 Eclectic Cyborg

You know the Yam will be boast tweeting about Schneiderman tomorrow morning right?

“Ya, know, if he’d just grabbed them rather than slapping them, there’d be no problem.”

Actually, what I expect Trump to say is “I never did anything like that to women around me. I have always treated women with respect.”

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 7:41:26pm

re: #78 Eclectic Cyborg

You know the Yam will be boast tweeting about Schneiderman tomorrow morning right?

Yeah, for sure we know. And I couldn’t give any fucks honestly.

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 7:42:15pm
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Belafon  May 7, 2018 • 7:44:12pm

re: #64 Interesting Times

This is why, no matter how dark and bleak her writing may be at times, I consider it empowering in the end:

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Belafon  May 7, 2018 • 7:46:20pm
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petesh  May 7, 2018 • 7:47:27pm

re: #35 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

If you really want to follow this down the rabbit hole…

Ollie North funneled weapons to Iran so they’d release American hostages. They knew it was wrong. But the RWNJs needed Reagan to get re-elected, and they absolutely feared him looking like Jimmy Carter, emasculated by Iranian hostage-takers.

Said weapons tipped the balance of power in the war against Iraq. Iran started winning.

In a panic, we started quietly funneling weapons to a dictator named Saddam Hussein so he could fight off the Iranians. Hussein used some of that to gas his own people and turned the tide.

A few years later, Hussein, still thinking he had carte blanche because he’d carried water for the U.S., invaded Kuwait …

… you all can take it from there.

Thank you. Of course it goes even earlier, but that’s the direct line of descent and always worth remembering.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 7, 2018 • 7:50:31pm

Gah. Schneiderman. You fucking prick. Can’t wait for Trump’s tweet ragestorm about this tomorrow. Ughhhh.

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Barefoot Grin  May 7, 2018 • 7:52:19pm

Melania Trump, who hails from the near-south Chicago suburb of Aurora, grew up a poor black girl….

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 7, 2018 • 7:54:11pm

My Spidey Sense is telling me that Roger Stone’s fingerprints are all over this takedown of Schneiderman, just as Stone took out Al Franken.

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 7:54:49pm

I respect both Matt and Sarah so much for their work and perspectives.
I don’t know who is more right in this particular case.
And honestly I vacillate between both of these views generally with regard to our Democracy under fire. I understand both vantage points here. Both are probably necessary.

I only hate it when people opt out or don’t speak of the fight ahead as if they are part of it or maintain unbalanced and extreme cynicism. Speaking of what the Dems need to do instead of what WE need to do or thinking that there’s nothing we can do when there is plenty, really gets my goat.

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 7:56:16pm

re: #87 Joe Bacon 🌹

My Spidey Sense is telling me that Roger Stone’s fingerprints are all over this takedown of Schneiderman, just as Stone took out Al Franken.

Have you read The New Yorker piece yet?

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ipsos  May 7, 2018 • 7:56:38pm

re: #87 Joe Bacon 🌹

My Spidey Sense is telling me that Roger Stone’s fingerprints are all over this takedown of Schneiderman, just as Stone took out Al Franken.

I don’t think so. Mayer and Farrow have too many solid named sources. And they’re way too smart to get taken in by a Stone hit job.

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calochortus  May 7, 2018 • 7:57:03pm

re: #87 Joe Bacon 🌹

My Spidey Sense is telling me that Roger Stone’s fingerprints are all over this takedown of Schneiderman, just as Stone took out Al Franken.

Maybe, but Schneiderman doesn’t deny slapping women around. He just claims it was consensual. I’m sure there are women out there who’d be OK with it because there’s always someone who consents to stuff, no matter how weird, but I’m guessing however much he consented, not all the women did.

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 8:00:10pm

Yes, he was really there. Teeheehee…

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Barefoot Grin  May 7, 2018 • 8:00:22pm

I wonder if there is more to the Rick Wilson tweet today given the timing of the Schneiderman outing. (Adjusts tin-foil hat.)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 7, 2018 • 8:00:55pm
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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 8:03:42pm

re: #91 calochortus

Maybe, but Schneiderman doesn’t deny slapping women around. He just claims it was consensual. I’m sure there are women out there who’d be OK with it because there’s always someone who consents to stuff, no matter how weird, but I’m guessing however much he consented, not all the women did.

Threatening them with wiretaps and the like is probably not part of the S&M lifestyle.

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 8:05:49pm
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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 8:07:09pm

re: #94 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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What were Republicans actually for in the Obama years?

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majii  May 7, 2018 • 8:09:26pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior “What were Republicans actually for in the Obama years?”

Obstruction by any means necessary.

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 8:11:17pm

Mensch also said Black Lives Matter was a Russian op sooooo….

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 8:12:23pm

re: #98 majii

“What were Republicans actually for in the Obama years?”

Obstruction by any means necessary.

Exactly

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 8:12:54pm

re: #99 JordanRules

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Mensch also said Black Lives Matter was a Russian op sooooo….

She’s a kook.

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ObserverArt  May 7, 2018 • 8:13:23pm

Sportstalk…

Two weeks ago it appeared the Cleveland Cavs were about out of gas. Somehow they beat Indiana in 7 and have just polished off Toronto in 4. And they look to be playing well as a team. Lebron is Lebron, but when they have others playing as well as they are, they are far from dead.

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Belafon  May 7, 2018 • 8:14:29pm

re: #85 GlutenFreeJesus

Gah. Schneiderman. You fucking prick. Can’t wait for Trump’s tweet ragestorm about this tomorrow. Ughhhh.

Just laugh at him.

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 8:16:32pm

re: #102 ObserverArt

Sportstalk…

Two weeks ago it appeared the Cleveland Cavs were about out of gas. Somehow they beat Indiana in 7 and have just polished off Toronto in 4. And they look to be playing well as a team. Lebron is Lebron, but when they have others playing as well as they are, they are far from dead.

I missed today’s game and haven’t looked at any analysis or stats yet, but good to hear his teammates finally stepped up. There was no way he could keep carrying them like that. His stats and minutes played at this point in his career is just astounding!!!

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 8:17:07pm

re: #102 ObserverArt

Sportstalk…

Two weeks ago it appeared the Cleveland Cavs were about out of gas. Somehow they beat Indiana in 7 and have just polished off Toronto in 4. And they look to be playing well as a team. Lebron is Lebron, but when they have others playing as well as they are, they are far from dead.

Lebron is such a special talent. It’s been a joy to watch him go from a kid my brother’s age to the best of his generation.

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Belafon  May 7, 2018 • 8:17:16pm

re: #88 JordanRules

I respect both Matt and Sarah so much for their work and perspectives.
I don’t know who is more right in this particular case.
And honestly I vacillate between both of these views generally with regard to our Democracy under fire. I understand both vantage points here. Both are probably necessary.

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I only hate it when people opt out or don’t speak of the fight ahead as if they are part of it or maintain unbalanced and extreme cynicism. Speaking of what the Dems need to do instead of what WE need to do or thinking that there’s nothing we can do when there is plenty, really gets my goat.

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 8:19:08pm
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Belafon  May 7, 2018 • 8:19:39pm

re: #94 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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For about the past 20 years, the GOP agenda has been tax cuts and opposing everything Democrats want. They’re the one without a real agenda to solve problems.

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Barefoot Grin  May 7, 2018 • 8:20:51pm

re: #99 JordanRules

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Mensch also said Black Lives Matter was a Russian op sooooo….

Some was. They take those narratives and push them to the limits, too.

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 8:21:23pm

re: #107 JordanRules

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And Trumpers hsve the nerve to complain about deep state.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 7, 2018 • 8:22:42pm

Right now, the crows in the Eucalyptus across the creek are arguing, occasionally outdoing the frogs in the creek trying to get laid.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 7, 2018 • 8:25:47pm

Well, let me put up a food pic. Just booked my summer train trip on the Coast Starlight. Last time I rode on it really enjoyed the trip and it was nice to have an actual hot meal served while traveling! Sure beat the half can of Diet Coke and pack of peanuts you get on a plane…

Flat Iron Steak Dinner
Quiche Breakfast
Burger Lunch
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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 8:26:41pm

re: #109 Barefoot Grin

Some was. They take those narratives and push them to the limits, too.

Yes they did some co-opting and dirty tricks. COINTELPRO.
I’m sure they are/will with MeToo as well. They didn’t start either movement though.

She also thinks Deray is an agent and she is erasing all of Tarana Burke’s hard work for women. There are real BLM protesters still in jail from the Ferguson actions.

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Barefoot Grin  May 7, 2018 • 8:31:42pm

re: #113 JordanRules

Yes they did some co-opting and dirty tricks. COINTELPRO.
I’m sure they are/will with MeToo as well. They didn’t start either movement though.

She also thinks Deray is an agent and she is erasing all of Tarana Burke’s hard work for women. There are real BLM protesters still in jail from the Ferguson actions.

I apologize. I misrepresented your point. LM is a bullshit artist regardless of what Russia has done.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 7, 2018 • 8:34:01pm

We are having a great time in Toronto!

First, we stopped on the way at the London Dairy Farm where my son works part time as a mashgiach (kosher supervisor) watching the cows get milked.
Here is a cow getting milked:

Then we visited the “maternity barn” where the cows have little baby cows.
Cow having a baby cow:

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

One of the cows was lying on her back bellowing. Poor cowie, I wanted to rub her belly and be a cow doula. The other cows were standing around munching hay while their calf was hanging half out.

One great thing about visiting the cow farm was, we got to smell …

wait
for
it

London Dairy Air!

Thank you, thank you, don’t forget to tip the Uber driver!

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 8:34:53pm

re: #114 Barefoot Grin

I apologize. I misrepresented your point. LM is a bullshit artist regardless of what Russia has done.

Oh I got what you meant, all good! But I definitely wanted to put more info out there so others would have some additional context.

Strong agree on LM!!

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The Vicious Babushka  May 7, 2018 • 8:37:31pm

We also went out to eat at a brand new, very upscale, expensive restaurant and it was totally excellent! We took an Uber downtown because I wanted to enjoy wine with the meal. Then we decided to take the subway back to where we are staying, which was a mistake as there wasn’t a station nearby so we got off at the University campus & called another Uber.

Anyway, more fun tomorrow!

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goddamnedfrank  May 7, 2018 • 8:37:44pm

Okay I’m out on my evening walk and stopped at Starbucks for tea and all I have to post on is my iPod Touch and long story short I don’t get the appeal of smart phones AT ALL!!!

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Belafon  May 7, 2018 • 8:38:51pm

The good side of America:

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HappyWarrior  May 7, 2018 • 8:42:20pm

re: #119 Belafon

The good side of America:

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Glad this got a happy ending.

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Renaissance_Man  May 7, 2018 • 8:45:35pm

re: #87 Joe Bacon 🌹

My Spidey Sense is telling me that Roger Stone’s fingerprints are all over this takedown of Schneiderman, just as Stone took out Al Franken.

Eh, I don’t know. Unlike Franken, this news isn’t being driven by a few women who appear almost exclusively on FOX and then immediately disappear. It also appears to involve actual assault and real abuse, as opposed to a childish photo. I also doubt Roger Stone has much pull with a couple of well-regarded New Yorker reporters. Schneiderman seems like an abusive alcoholic with sexual dominance issues, and good riddance.

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 8:46:26pm
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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 8:47:45pm
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meteor  May 7, 2018 • 9:06:05pm
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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 9:06:58pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 7, 2018 • 9:22:47pm
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freetoken  May 7, 2018 • 9:25:40pm

re: #126 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Flake always makes grand statements… and then never delivers.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 7, 2018 • 9:33:40pm

re: #127 freetoken

Flake always makes grand statements… and then never delivers.

He did make a modest contribution to Doug Jones against Roy Moore. So in this case, I am confident he will keep his word.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 7, 2018 • 9:35:29pm

re: #128 Hecuba’s daughter

He did make a modest contribution to Doug Jones against Roy Moore. So in this case, I am confident he will keep his word.

The problem with Jeff Flake is not that he lies, but that he never commits to real opposition against Trump. He complains but does not promise nor does he take any real action.

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BigPapa  May 7, 2018 • 9:41:56pm

re: #32 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

That is an amazing painting. Will spend the next few hours obsessing over him.

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 10:08:41pm
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Targetpractice  May 7, 2018 • 10:13:35pm

The big problem with Schneiderman’s resignation is not that it takes a powerful ally off the field, but rather that it will help the White House continue to push their “WITCH HUNT!!!!” narrative, insisting that the men investigating Trump and his close friends/business partners are bad actors who themselves are truly the corrupt members of “the swamp.” That the investigations are an effort to cover up real crimes by those men or their associates and in the process remove a duly-elected president from office.

While I don’t believe that the accusations are falsified, I do believe that someone may have let the White House know days in advance that this story was close to publication and that’s why they felt overly confident that their “salvation” lay in the courts.

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KGxvi  May 7, 2018 • 10:18:10pm

re: #12 Belafon

I personally think we’re in a cold civil war right now, especially with 40% of the county either hoping we get a fascists-religious state or not caring if we do. I think we’re going to win ultimately, but we’re going to have setbacks. And, like in any war, sometimes people on your side do something that requires you to remove them from their job (think MacArthur and Korea). But there’s more than just that one person.

Most of American history could be described as a cold civil war. We typically don’t think of history as dynamic events and competing parties/ideologies, but through out our history we have had nasty politics. It typically revolved around race generally, and ensuring that all people had the protections of the constitution and the promises of the declaration.

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KGxvi  May 7, 2018 • 10:21:14pm

re: #132 Targetpractice

While I don’t believe that the accusations are falsified, I do believe that someone may have let the White House know days in advance that this story was close to publication and that’s why they felt overly confident that their “salvation” lay in the courts.

Nah, I think the “salvation” in the courts bit was because they thought the judge in the Manafort case was going to dismiss everything after the hearing the other day. But that’s likely not going to happen.

Also, they’re fucking morons

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 7, 2018 • 10:33:18pm

re: #12 Belafon

I personally think we’re in a cold civil war right now, especially with 40% of the county either hoping we get a fascists-religious state or not caring if we do. I think we’re going to win ultimately, but we’re going to have setbacks. And, like in any war, sometimes people on your side do something that requires you to remove them from their job (think MacArthur and Korea). But there’s more than just that one person.

We will come to a point where people with guns will seek to impede the due process of law, as the folks with guns will not recognize the rule of law and brand it an anti-government coup.

And while this is going on, there will be trolls and hackers from all over the world manipulating social media to make sure that the worst possible outcome ensues.

As a nation I feel a bit jaded with a madman at the helm…

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Targetpractice  May 7, 2018 • 10:39:16pm

re: #134 KGxvi

Nah, I think the “salvation” in the courts bit was because they thought the judge in the Manafort case was going to dismiss everything after the hearing the other day. But that’s likely not going to happen.

Also, they’re fucking morons

As I was telling a wingnut earlier today, best case scenario for Manafort is that Mueller drops the charges…and the EDVA US Attorney immediately impanels a grand jury to file them there. The only other “good” scenario is that the case goes forward under Mueller, but the judge puts his views about the reach of his investigatory power on paper. It’ll give the wingnuts tingles in their nether regions that Mueller had his hand “slapped” by a judge, but it will mean Manafort is still stuck deciding between dying in prison or rolling on Don Trump.

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austin_blue  May 7, 2018 • 10:39:25pm

re: #132 Targetpractice

The big problem with Schneiderman’s resignation is not that it takes a powerful ally off the field, but rather that it will help the White House continue to push their “WITCH HUNT!!!!” narrative, insisting that the men investigating Trump and his close friends/business partners are bad actors who themselves are truly the corrupt members of “the swamp.” That the investigations are an effort to cover up real crimes by those men or their associates and in the process remove a duly-elected president from office.

While I don’t believe that the accusations are falsified, I do believe that someone may have let the White House know days in advance that this story was close to publication and that’s why they felt overly confident that their “salvation” lay in the courts.

Eric was a deeply flawed human being and he is rightly off the chessboard. So be it.

Am I pissed off? Yes.

Does this really change anything? No. His immediate removal means that there will be a day of bark bark bark from Faux News and then it will disappear because Drumpf will tweet some other stupidity and blow it away. His team is intact and they will move forward. That is the nature of a modern competent bureaucracy. The foot soldiers do the work and the removal of the top dog does not destroy the organization.

Tomorrow, the rest of the team is going to push even harder.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 7, 2018 • 10:43:43pm

re: #133 KGxvi

Most of American history could be described as a cold civil war. We typically don’t think of history as dynamic events and competing parties/ideologies, but through out our history we have had nasty politics. It typically revolved around race generally, and ensuring that all people had the protections of the constitution and the promises of the declaration.

The Cold Civil War began in 1865.

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 10:45:26pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  May 7, 2018 • 10:53:26pm

welp, there’s still six months before the midterm and i figure mueller has to drop something on the overgrown child eventually

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 10:54:49pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 7, 2018 • 10:56:10pm

re: #140 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

welp, there’s still six months before the midterm and i figure mueller has to drop something on the overgrown child eventually

mueller is very thorough and methodical and I am sure that the timing of upcoming elections also figures heavily into his investigations.

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 11:00:14pm

re: #142 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

mueller is very thorough and methodical and I am sure that the timing of upcoming elections also figures heavily into his investigations.

I actually would be surprised if he takes that into consideration.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 7, 2018 • 11:04:04pm

re: #143 JordanRules

I actually would be surprised if he takes that into consideration.

He has to take it into consideration during his planning. There has been some talk of him having to “go dark” during the elections to avoid the impression of influencing the outcome, so I am sure he has planned to deal with that. Mueller is not a man to let himself be overtaken by foreseeable circumstances.

Remember how Comey “went dark” in October 2016? (ha ha)

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austin_blue  May 7, 2018 • 11:12:56pm

re: #142 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

mueller is very thorough and methodical and I am sure that the timing of upcoming elections also figures heavily into his investigations.

I certainly hope not! The spin on that concept will be the R’s primary focus in the elections. The sooner he pulls the trigger, the better.

IMHO, the focus at this point should be the money laundering of Trump Inc. Everybody knows that DJT Jr. is on the record as saying that “a lot of our funding to run the company has come from Russia”.

That’s a dead bang admission that their cash flow is dependent on funneling cash through real estate deals.

If Mueller is following the money (and in RICO cases, you always follow the money), then this is the chink in the Trump, Inc. armor. No one else was was fronting them money because of his past bankruptcies. US and European banks wouldn’t touch him.

The only source of fluid cash was Russian and ex-SSR Kleptocracies.

And I’m off for the rack. Night all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 7, 2018 • 11:25:14pm

re: #145 austin_blue

I certainly hope not! The spin on that concept will be the R’s primary focus in the elections. The sooner he pulls the trigger, the better.

IMHO, the focus at this point should be the money laundering of Trump Inc. Everybody knows that DJT Jr. is on the record as saying that “a lot of our funding to run the company has come from Russia”.

That’s a dead bang admission that their cash flow is dependent on funneling cash through real estate deals.

It is important that we find out what sort of foreign governments or government actors Trump has been beholden to in his business dealings.

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freetoken  May 7, 2018 • 11:25:49pm

Over the years I’ve come across some very long trains of grain and coal, but this recent video from Virtual Railfan is from one of their cameras in Missouri:

16K Roars Through La Plata, MO

People in the comments counted 240 or 269 cars. Let’s say it’s 250 cars. At 55’ length for each car, that is 13,750 feet plus (extra for the linkages and some slightly longer double height cars.)

That’s over 2.5 miles long.

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JordanRules  May 7, 2018 • 11:30:54pm

re: #144 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He has to take it into consideration during his planning. There has been some talk of him having to “go dark” during the elections to avoid the impression of influencing the outcome, so I am sure he has planned to deal with that. Mueller is not a man to let himself be overtaken by foreseeable circumstances.

Remember how Comey “went dark” in October 2016? (ha ha)

That definitely makes sense. I was thinking about him considering the election in the sense of it figuring into how he moved forward and how quickly or not. In that sense I believe he just let’s the investigation proceed without any political calculus.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  May 7, 2018 • 11:33:45pm

i only wish i could be comfortably reading about this period in a history book instead of suffering through it in excruciating real time wondering how in the fuck it could all possibly turn out

geez

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 7, 2018 • 11:41:14pm

re: #147 freetoken

Over the years I’ve come across some very long trains of grain and coal, but this recent video from Virtual Railfan is from one of their cameras in Missouri:

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People in the comments counted 240 or 269 cars. Let’s say it’s 250 cars. At 55’ length for each car, that is 13,750 feet plus (extra for the linkages and some slightly longer double height cars.)

That’s over 2.5 miles long.

Rail traffic is a major pain in the ass in the Middle Rhine valley. It is a major north-south axis but is very narrow in many places, with tracks running right through or directly past towns and settlements. And the narrow valley acts as a megaphone, reflecting and amplifying the sound.

Container barges can carry up to 128 containers or 256 for a double barge. One container per 10 m rail car can replace 2.56 km worth of train. Only problem is their relatively slow speed.

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Scout  May 8, 2018 • 12:24:28am

re: #147 freetoken

I wonder how many locomotives are sprinkled throughout that train.

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freetoken  May 8, 2018 • 12:26:19am

re: #151 Scout

I wonder how many locomotives are sprinkled throughout that train.

I think I saw two up front, one in the middle, and two in the rear. Or something like that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 12:30:20am

re: #152 freetoken

I think I saw two up front, one in the middle, and two in the rear. Or something like that.

Who is old enough to have seen a train with a caboose?

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Dr Lizardo  May 8, 2018 • 12:33:03am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Who is old enough to have seen a train with a caboose?

Last caboose I saw was probably sometime in the early 1990s.

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Scout  May 8, 2018 • 12:34:44am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Who is old enough to have seen a train with a caboose?

Many, many years ago (when I was a child), I rode in a caboose from Port Angeles to Port Townsend in Washington state. It was kind of cool at first, but then it got boring, as I recall.

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Cheechako  May 8, 2018 • 12:42:38am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Who is old enough to have seen a train with a caboose?

How about old enough to see a steam train. When I was in elementary school there were train tracks adjacent to the school playground. Of course, at that time, there were no safety fences. Steam locomotives used that section of track. Just being kids, when we heard a train coming, we would rush out and put pennies on the tracks to be crushed. Somewhere I still have one of these pennies.

Childhood was so much fun in those days.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 8, 2018 • 12:50:26am

I live between two railroad tracks. To be fair, the one that goes through the Kent Transit Center is mainly for the Sounder passenger train, very few freight trains like this, but that means all the freight trains go on the track about 200’ away. Some of them seem about as long as this. Plus they’re mostly slowing down to unload at all the warehouses in town here, so they take forever—and their whistles are blowing the whole time.

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fern01  May 8, 2018 • 12:59:45am

re: #7 Belafon

As someone said in the last thread, he was fired by Trump. He’d probably have to recuse himself from anything involving Trump.

It sounds like the Deputy AG will be a good fit.

Nah - trump doesn’t believe in recusals.

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freetoken  May 8, 2018 • 1:24:43am

This will hurt your brain - caution is advised:

FLAT EARTH — Space Station or Unmanned High Altitude Drone?

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freetoken  May 8, 2018 • 1:49:10am

Leroy Anderson made this famous, but Liberace has fun with it:

Liberace Typewriter Song

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Dr Lizardo  May 8, 2018 • 1:53:02am

Now the original article is in Russia, so this is through Google Translate, but offhand, I’d say this ain’t good:

As the interlocutors of the newspaper note, almost half of the closed shopping centers are small objects built or reconstructed in the 1990s.

The damage from the suspension of the work of shopping ployshadey [I think it failed to translate “shopping centers” properly] can exceed half a billion rubles a month. These figures are the sources of the newspaper.

In some regions, for example, in the Khabarovsk Territory, entrepreneurs plan to hold protests in connection with the actions of the Ministry of Emergency Situations.

March 25 in the “Winter Cherry” was a major fire, which killed 64 people, including 41 children. According to eyewitnesses, the alarm did not work, some people were cut off from the fire and tried to get out of the shopping center through the windows.

After the tragedy in the Ministry of Emergency Situations they said that they would check all Russian shopping centers, and Rosgvardia intends to inspect five thousand private security companies (PPCs).

According to the data for mid-April, in the middle of objects with mass prebyvaeniem [perhaps this is supposed to be “occupancy”] people in Russia found violations of fire safety requirements.

Original here: mbk.sobchakprotivvseh.ru

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 8, 2018 • 1:55:54am

re: #159 freetoken

This will hurt your brain - caution is advised:

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Video

I respond with a live video feed from the ISS.
Looks like someone is outside. Or, I guess, in the “training tank”

NASA Live - Earth From Space (HDVR) ♥ ISS LIVE FEED #AstronomyDay2018 | Subscribe now!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 2:02:42am

re: #156 Cheechako

How about old enough to see a steam train. When I was in elementary school there were train tracks adjacent to the school playground. Of course, at that time, there were no safety fences. Steam locomotives used that section of track. Just being kids, when we heard a train coming, we would rush out and put pennies on the tracks to be crushed. Somewhere I still have one of these pennies.

Childhood was so much fun in those days.

our big challenge was getting over a railroad bridge on the Chicago South Shore Line…the train was very fast and there was very little room on either side of the bridge had it come along while we were attempting to cross it.

That was a major test of courage…the bridge itself led to an abandoned Nike missile base that we used to vandalize.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 2:05:42am

re: #161 Dr Lizardo

Now the original article is in Russia, so this is through Google Translate, but offhand, I’d say this ain’t good:

Original here: mbk.sobchakprotivvseh.ru

Checked the original. This reminds me of the chaos of the early 90’s…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 8, 2018 • 2:12:33am

re: #162 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I respond with a live video feed from the ISS.
Looks like someone is outside. Or, I guess, in the “training tank”

[Embedded content]

FAKE!!!! CGI!!!! FISHEYE LENS!!!!!!! NASA!!!!! FREEMASONS!!!!! JEWWWWZ!!!!!!!

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Teukka  May 8, 2018 • 2:13:32am

re: #165 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

FAKE!!!! CGI!!!! FISHEYE LENS!!!!!!! NASA!!!!! FREEMASONS!!!!! JEWWWWZ!!!!!!!

You forgot the Knights Templar and the Illuminati…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 2:13:36am

re: #165 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

FAKE!!!! CGI!!!! FISHEYE LENS!!!!!!! NASA!!!!! FREEMASONS!!!!! JEWWWWZ!!!!!!!

CHEMTRAILS IN SPACE!!!

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freetoken  May 8, 2018 • 2:18:33am

Bret Weinstein’s take on religion and fitness may not garner him many fans, but I think it is an idea that is worth the ponder:

Why religion is literally false and metaphorically true | Bret Weinstein

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 2:24:11am

re: #168 freetoken

Bret Weinstein’s take on religion and fitness may not garner him many fans, but I think it is an idea that is worth the ponder:

I am anti-clerical, not anti-religious.

But if I were anti-religious, I would be a mean-ass Machiavellian and support an established Church, because that is the very thing that kills true faith.

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freetoken  May 8, 2018 • 2:25:28am

The Duggar family is the most well known American family where their religious beliefs are improving the families fitness in an evolutionary sense.

It’s one of the great ironies of the universe.

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freetoken  May 8, 2018 • 2:26:50am

BTW, the Duggar baby-factories are up to 10 grandchildren “and counting”, as they say.

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freetoken  May 8, 2018 • 2:28:01am

And two in the ovens.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 2:28:03am

re: #170 freetoken

The Duggar family is the most well known American family where their religious beliefs are improving the families fitness in an evolutionary sense.

It’s one of the great ironies of the universe.

To me, “Christian” values are those of kindness and charity, not just cranking out babies.

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freetoken  May 8, 2018 • 2:29:35am

Even Thanos would be no match for the Duggar replication rate.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 8, 2018 • 2:31:30am

re: #170 freetoken

The Duggar family is the most well known American family where their religious beliefs are improving the families fitness in an evolutionary sense.

It’s one of the great ironies of the universe.

“Fitness” is different for a human in the modern world than for a crinoid in the Ordovician period. For every Duggar who gets a TV show, there are a million offspring of these quiverfull maniacs who’ll wind up on welfare and paying no taxes, while whining about “their taxes” going to “welfare queens” in the blue states that subsidize them, and voting for politicians who want to eliminate welfare. One can only hope that this is not a sustainable evolutionary strategy.

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freetoken  May 8, 2018 • 2:34:08am

So far, they have ten “grand-Duggars” — with at least two more currently on the way. In the past, the Counting On patriarch has even gone so far as to say that he hopes that — one day — he has 200 grandchildren to call his own! And, well, if they keep up the pace, they’ll be there in no time! Get to know all of the Duggar grandkids below:

[…]

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 2:34:15am

re: #175 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“Fitness” is different for a human in the modern world than for a crinoid in the Ordovician period. For every Duggar who gets a TV show, there are a million offspring of these quiverfull maniacs who’ll wind up on welfare and paying no taxes, while whining about “their taxes” going to “welfare queens” in the blue states that subsidize them, and voting for politicians who want to eliminate welfare. One can only hope that this is not a sustainable evolutionary strategy.

It is not a sustainable strategy, it is a freak show. Those things flourish for a while and then disappear into the history books.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 8, 2018 • 2:36:24am

Mama says, ‘stupid is as stupid does’

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freetoken  May 8, 2018 • 2:37:03am

re: #177 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is not a sustainable strategy, it is a freak show. Those things flourish for a while and then disappear into the history books.

There is a very good chance that everybody on Earth a thousand years from now, however many are left, will be descendants of the initial Duggar TV couple.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 2:37:31am

re: #178 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Mama says, ‘stupid is as stupid does’

is this Florida?

I assume the woman in the foreground is the one he asked to hold his beer…

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freetoken  May 8, 2018 • 2:50:10am

The last case, at least famous case, of hyper-fecundancy was Ibn Saud. A great many people alive today are descended from him, and he was born less than 150 years ago.

When a single male dominates a population, the effective population size, in the way population geneticists think of that phrase, goes down, as many other males don’t get to reproduce, and their rarest ancestors can then go completely extinct in the population.

Eventually a species may run into a problem of lack of diversity.

We humans are a long way off from that.

Cheetahs, however, may be in such danger.

The Duggar clan may be able to overtake the Saudis only if the latter start restricting births (such as what China did for a couple of decades.) If Saudi Arabia ever modernizes and women get the power to determine their own fate, then birth rates will go down and the growth of descendants of Ibn will slow down. If parallel to that America returns to its religious patriarchal roots, the Duggars may catch up.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 8, 2018 • 3:01:26am

However, the cheetah genetic bottleneck is very likely the end for them; in fact, it is the general end times for all the big cats. A Duggar bottle neck will just increase the amount of dumbassery in the general population.
/ 0.5

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 3:11:22am

re: #182 Colère Tueur de Lapin

However, the cheetah genetic bottleneck is very likely the end for them; in fact, it is the general end times for all the big cats. A Duggar bottle neck will just increase the amount of dumbassery in the general population.
/ 0.5

That has been given as a reason for the decline of the dinosaurs: lack of genetic diversity. Face it, for the same 10 tons of biomass you get two brontosaurus or 2,000,000 proto-mammals.

Genetic tests on remains of the last surviving mammoths show that they were so inbred that they no longer had a functional sense of smell.

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Barefoot Grin  May 8, 2018 • 3:41:30am

Remember to fill your gas tanks before Trump recklessly reasserts sanctions on Iran today.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 8, 2018 • 3:43:47am
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Dr Lizardo  May 8, 2018 • 3:47:36am

re: #184 Barefoot Grin

Remember to fill your gas tanks before Trump recklessly reasserts sanctions on Iran today.

$100/barrel, here we come!!

*headdesk*

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 8, 2018 • 3:59:59am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 4:04:33am

re: #186 Dr Lizardo

$100/barrel, here we come!!

*headdesk*

Then we have an excuse to go to war and seize the oilfields

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 4:06:29am

Dissent in the ranks: Pat Buchannan in newsmax

Don’t Trash the Iran Nuclear Deal

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Varek Raith  May 8, 2018 • 4:41:32am

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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jeffreyw  May 8, 2018 • 4:45:07am

Imgur


Good morning!

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I cannot.  May 8, 2018 • 4:50:35am

re: #189 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Ain’t touching that link. Not for a dozen Zuckerberg’s of money.

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Stanley Sea  May 8, 2018 • 4:52:20am

Nice earthquake woke me up.

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Varek Raith  May 8, 2018 • 4:54:14am

re: #193 Stanley Sea

Nice earthquake woke me up.

Oh hai, were you sleeping?
-Mother Nature

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 5:02:08am

re: #192 I cannot.

Ain’t touching that link. Not for a dozen Zuckerberg’s of money.

I occasionally read newsmax for the same reason I used to read Pravda, just to find out what the party line is, but Pat is having a broken clock moment here, his arguments for maintaining the Iran nuclear deal are quite sound.

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b.d.  May 8, 2018 • 5:11:17am

Good Morning Lizards.

Looks like a good day to stick to the BBC.

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Dave In Austin  May 8, 2018 • 5:11:17am

re: #191 jeffreyw

Brown headed cowbirds don’t survive the pellet gun at my house…….. Parasites…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 5:12:27am

re: #196 b.d. (Be Best)

Good Morning Lizards.

Looks like a good day to stick to the BBC.

I check their news site regularly.

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Varek Raith  May 8, 2018 • 5:13:05am

re: #197 Dave In Austin

Brown headed cowbirds don’t survive the pellet gun at my house…….. Parasites…

That is one fucked up bird.
Yeesh.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 8, 2018 • 5:19:22am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 5:20:01am

re: #197 Dave In Austin

Brown headed cowbirds don’t survive the pellet gun at my house…….. Parasites…

From Wiki.

Parasite response
It seems that brown-headed cowbirds periodically check on their eggs and young after they have deposited them. Removal of the parasitic egg may trigger a retaliatory reaction termed “mafia behavior”. According to a study by the Florida Museum of Natural History published in 1983, the cowbird returned to ransack the nests of a range of host species 56% of the time when their egg was removed.

“Nice nest you got there, shame if something were to happen to it…”

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Dave In Austin  May 8, 2018 • 5:26:45am

re: #199 Varek Raith

That is one fucked up bird.
Yeesh.

I’m pretty good out to 50 yrds with my .122 Gamo 1 pump. Damn good pellet gun.

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jeffreyw  May 8, 2018 • 5:30:19am

re: #197 Dave In Austin

Brown headed cowbirds don’t survive the pellet gun at my house…….. Parasites…

I’ve slaughtered so many that I tired of the sport. Dead bird removal became tedious. I made the females priority targets over the males, although at certain times of the year the success of my goal of “2 birds 1 bullet” gave me a certain smug satisfaction.

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BlueSpotinAL  May 8, 2018 • 5:30:38am

Frank Stitt’s Highlands Bar and Grill in Birmingham AL wins the James Beard award - about damn time!

Dolester Miles of same restaurant wins best pastry chef.

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Dave In Austin  May 8, 2018 • 5:36:20am

re: #203 jeffreyw

I’ve slaughtered so many that I tired of the sport. Dead bird removal became tedious. I made the females priority targets over the males, although at certain times of the year the success of my goal of “2 birds 1 bullet” gave me a certain smug satisfaction.

I’m fortunate as i only see a few here every year to the benefit of the local populations. I also take out english house sparrows. Don’t see many of them either, but with the encroachment of Cedar Park and it’s subdivisions, those and the enveriable grackles will become a reality.

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wheat-dogg  May 8, 2018 • 5:36:39am

re: #203 jeffreyw

I’ve slaughtered so many that I tired of the sport. Dead bird removal became tedious. I made the females priority targets over the males, although at certain times of the year the success of my goal of “2 birds 1 bullet” gave me a certain smug satisfaction.

You’re fighting a losing battle, anyway. There’s way more of them than there are of you.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 8, 2018 • 5:39:19am

re: #206 wheat-dogg

You’re fighting a losing battle, anyway. There’s way more of them than there are of you.

That was also true of the passenger pigeon — way more of them than us. But we “won”.

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ObserverArt  May 8, 2018 • 5:40:09am

re: #191 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Morning!

So I am learning about birds from all your images. I’ve never heard of, or seen, a brown-headed cowbird and that they are nest predators.

Thanks to Dave in Austin for that ID. Had to go look that one up.

Dirty bird!

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 5:40:39am

re: #187 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Wouldn’t it be great if we were friends with Russia?// I wish more military members and their families could see the true contempt Trump has for them by picking his lot with Putin.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 5:49:55am

re: #209 HappyWarrior

Wouldn’t it be great if we were friends with Russia?// I wish more military members and their families could see the true contempt Trump has for them by picking his lot with Putin.

Not to mention anyone who depends on an automobile for transportation…now thanks to tensions with Iran, oil is up to $70 per barrel and Putin is bringing in more tax revenue to use to keep his populace in line.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 8, 2018 • 5:51:13am

re: #22 William Lewis

Right before Franco’s coup…

I don’t see is in a cold Civil War, more like a soft coup.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 5:54:00am

re: #211 Shropshire Slasher

I don’t see is in a cold Civil War, more like a soft coup.

We let a de facto majority into power…they know that demographics are working against them and are doing all they can to prolong their reign.

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William Lewis  May 8, 2018 • 5:57:48am

re: #169 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am anti-clerical, not anti-religious.

But if I were anti-religious, I would be a mean-ass Machiavellian and support an established Church, because that is the very thing that kills true faith.

It depends on how you define the “Church”. If you’re referring simply to the bureaucracy of, say, The Vatican or Canterbury? I could probably agree. But if you mean the people who are in the parishes trying to do what is right and good? I’ve been a member of three different parishes in my life and can say all three well and truly try to live by the gospel.

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Bubblehead II  May 8, 2018 • 5:58:55am

re: #151 Scout

I wonder how many locomotives are sprinkled throughout that train.

I counted three at the front, two in the middle and three on the end.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 8, 2018 • 6:00:29am

I hear a lot of talk about whom to replace Schneiderman with, how about we get some justice for the victims first, and get his pension to boot.

In a release on Monday, Senate leaders said the legislation will amend the state constitution to “reduce or revoke the pension of a public officer that has been convicted of a felony related to his or her official duties.”

“The Assembly Majority believes that public officials who violate the public’s trust and engage in corruption should face the consequences of their actions including the forfeiture of taxpayer funded pensions,” said Speaker Carl Heastie in a release.

Senate Majority Leader John Flanagan said, “The measure will go to the voters so that they can have the opportunity to join with us in taking a strong stand against corruption.”

According to Senate leaders, the legislation will allow public officials to lose their pension, or have it reduced, following a court hearing. According to leaders, the court will consider the severity of the offense when determining the loss of pension.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 6:02:42am

re: #213 William Lewis

It depends on how you define the “Church”. If you’re referring simply to the bureaucracy of, say, The Vatican or Canterbury? I could probably agree. But if you mean the people who are in the parishes trying to do what is right and good? I’ve been a member of three different parishes in my life and can say all three well and truly try to live by the gospel.

I mean large religious organizations, especially when they get embroiled in politics.

That is what I mean by being anti-clerical but not anti-religious. I am not among the Christian faithful but I respect those people who truly live and witness it and do not just preach and posture.

Heck, we even took part in putting on the local kiddie Christmas presentation at our village chapel although we were not members of the church, I found it was all in keeping with a sense of community.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 8, 2018 • 6:03:54am

re: #183 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That has been given as a reason for the decline of the dinosaurs: lack of genetic diversity. Face it, for the same 10 tons of biomass you get two brontosaurus or 2,000,000 proto-mammals.

I like this reasoning. Made me giggle.

Genetic tests on remains of the last surviving mammoths show that they were so inbred that they no longer had a functional sense of smell.

This is a new one to me. So, when the “restore the mammoth” project goes forward, the researchers are going to need to make sure they add that functionality back in. Insert the CallOlfaction() routines, or some such.

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Sir John Barron  May 8, 2018 • 6:05:46am

re: #189 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Dissent in the ranks: Pat Buchannan in newsmax

Don’t Trash the Iran Nuclear Deal

Pat Buchanan writes for Newsmax?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 6:06:54am

re: #218 Sir John Barron

Pat Buchanan writes for Newsmax?

yes, he is a regular contributor to the op-ed column. like I said, I stop by there from time to time to check up on the latest Conservative talking points and the party line.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 6:07:44am

re: #217 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I like this reasoning. Made me giggle.

This is a new one to me. So, when the “restore the mammoth” project goes forward, the researchers are going to need to make sure they add that functionality back in. Insert the CallOlfaction() routines, or some such.

They will probably be leaning on their closest living relatives to fill in the gaps or damages to their genomes.

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Sir John Barron  May 8, 2018 • 6:07:59am

re: #139 JordanRules

So is this a “Oh knows ISIS is attacking, bar all Muslims!” or “American Patriots should be allowed to run over protesters even if they’re on the sidewalk” episode?

//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 6:12:51am

re: #221 Sir John Barron

So is this a “Oh knows ISIS is attacking, bar all Muslims!” or “American Patriots should be allowed to run over protesters even if they’re on the sidewalk” episode?

//

totally unclear from the article, but the fact that they were university workers protesting indicates that it was not likely an Islamist terror attack

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makeitstop  May 8, 2018 • 6:19:56am

Jesus, what a snowflake. He bought bullet-proof furniture because of a damn Newsweek cover?

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:21:53am

re: #223 makeitstop

Jesus, what a snowflake. He bought bullet-proof furniture because of a damn Newsweek cover?

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A mustache?!?!? on a frigging magazine cover. God i hope they don’t see the Trump Chia pet that my brother’s girlfriend got him and how my Dad defaced that.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:22:17am

We know who the real snowflakes are. They’re right wingers.

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Barefoot Grin  May 8, 2018 • 6:27:56am
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ObserverArt  May 8, 2018 • 6:31:23am

re: #223 makeitstop

Jesus, what a snowflake. He bought bullet-proof furniture because of a damn Newsweek cover?

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He is a very strange man.

I guess he is a devout Christian too. But, apparently he doesn’t trust his God’s overseeing protection.

And with that…time to go hit the ol’ voting booth for the Ohio primaries.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:33:49am

re: #227 ObserverArt

He is a very strange man.

I guess he is a devout Christian too. But, apparently he doesn’t trust his God’s overseeing protection.

And with that…time to go hit the ol’ voting booth for the Ohio primaries.

Good luck today. I hope you guys stop Kucinich. Used to like and admire him very much but he disgusts me now.

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steve_davis  May 8, 2018 • 6:35:30am

re: #115 The Vicious Babushka

We are having a great time in Toronto!

First, we stopped on the way at the London Dairy Farm where my son works part time as a mashgiach (kosher supervisor) watching the cows get milked.
Here is a cow getting milked:

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Then we visited the “maternity barn” where the cows have little baby cows.
Cow having a baby cow:

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One of the cows was lying on her back bellowing. Poor cowie, I wanted to rub her belly and be a cow doula. The other cows were standing around munching hay while their calf was hanging half out.

One great thing about visiting the cow farm was, we got to smell …

wait
for
it

London Dairy Air!

Thank you, thank you, don’t forget to tip the Uber driver!

re: #115 The Vicious Babushka

We are having a great time in Toronto!

First, we stopped on the way at the London Dairy Farm where my son works part time as a mashgiach (kosher supervisor) watching the cows get milked.
Here is a cow getting milked:

[Embedded content]

Then we visited the “maternity barn” where the cows have little baby cows.
Cow having a baby cow:

[Embedded content]

One of the cows was lying on her back bellowing. Poor cowie, I wanted to rub her belly and be a cow doula. The other cows were standing around munching hay while their calf was hanging half out.

One great thing about visiting the cow farm was, we got to smell …

wait
for
it

London Dairy Air!

Thank you, thank you, don’t forget to tip the Uber driver!

that poor milked cow has the same look I would have if someone hooked some cold gizmo onto my tits and tried to milk me.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 8, 2018 • 6:38:46am
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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:40:50am

re: #230 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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A warrior for freedom? LOL. Yeah tell that to the nuns that were raped by his Contra buddies, Dana. Fuck you and your organization and fuck Ollie too. I don’t care if he’s a veteran. The man is a disgrace to the uniform he wore.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 6:42:16am

re: #231 HappyWarrior

A warrior for freedom? LOL. Yeah tell that to the nuns that were raped by his Contra buddies, Dana. Fuck you and your organization and fuck Ollie too. I don’t care if he’s a veteran. The man is a disgrace to the uniform he wore.

His presence “pisses liberals off”, that makes him a hero in their eyes

there are liberals who own guns, they just do not see them as talismans of freedom or penis substitutes

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:46:57am

re: #232 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

His presence “pisses liberals off”, that makes him a hero in their eyes

there are liberals who own guns, they just do not see them as talismans of freedom or penis substitutes

Well they’re stupid because it doesn’t piss me off at all. In fact, it reminds me that my own grandfather rebuked Ollie when Ollie ran for the Senate here. And Grandpa unlike Ollie wore the uniform honorably and never did the shit Ollie did. Grandpa was a lifetime gun owner but men like North and the NRA didn’t represent him or his views.

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 6:51:32am

Interesting theory.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 8, 2018 • 6:54:04am

WINNING!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  May 8, 2018 • 6:56:49am

re: #171 freetoken

BTW, the Duggar baby-factories are up to 10 grandchildren “and counting”, as they say.

Meh. I have 42 grandkids “and counting.”

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:57:01am

re: #235 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

WINNING!!!

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Great job Donald.

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Belafon  May 8, 2018 • 6:58:24am

re: #235 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

WINNING!!!

How else is Trump going to get his war?

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 6:59:46am

Are there any countries that you all think are particularly better suited to deal with rapidly increasing automation and the attendant job losses?

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Dave In Austin  May 8, 2018 • 7:02:24am
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Sir John Barron  May 8, 2018 • 7:04:09am

So today is primary day in West By God Virginia (and Ohio and Indiana). Interesting to see if the felon mine owner will win.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 8, 2018 • 7:04:24am

Well, that didn’t take long.

The Manhattan District Attorney’s office is investigating allegations of violence against women by New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman, who resigned just hours after accounts of abuse by four women.

It was a swift and stunning fall for a Democrat who held himself out as a champion of women and a liberal foil to President Donald Trump and who pledged to use his office to hold others accountable for abusing their power.

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Dave In Austin  May 8, 2018 • 7:04:55am
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Belafon  May 8, 2018 • 7:06:53am

re: #243 Dave In Austin

Are there any actual headlines, or are people just saying it for the laughs?

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Belafon  May 8, 2018 • 7:08:09am

re: #242 Shropshire Slasher

Well, that didn’t take long.

Where have you been while the news for Trump has been bad?

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 7:09:13am

re: #244 Belafon

Haven’t seen any headlines but people have been seriously suggesting it along with Preet and Yates.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 8, 2018 • 7:09:41am

re: #245 Belafon

News cycle has been pretty boring. I am interested in who is Stormy Daniels handler though. I am sure there is a news story in that.

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Dave In Austin  May 8, 2018 • 7:10:55am

re: #244 Belafon

Are there any actual headlines, or are people just saying it for the laughs?

{{{Twitter}}}

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 8, 2018 • 7:11:24am

re: #247 Shropshire Slasher

News cycle has been pretty boring. I am interested in who is Stormy Daniels handler though. I am sure there is a news story in that.

Ask the religious nuts in my family and they will answer—GEORGE SOROS

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Belafon  May 8, 2018 • 7:11:35am

re: #246 JordanRules

Haven’t seen any headlines but people have been seriously suggesting it along with Preet and Yates.

OK, people desperate for someone else to save them.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 7:12:04am

re: #246 JordanRules

Haven’t seen any headlines but people have been seriously suggesting it along with Preet and Yates.

Does Sally even practice in NY? People need to understand there’s asst ags for a reason and from what I’ve read on Bragg, he’s more than up to the task.

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Belafon  May 8, 2018 • 7:12:16am

re: #247 Shropshire Slasher

News cycle has been pretty boring. I am interested in who is Stormy Daniels handler though. I am sure there is a news story in that.

Maybe you can get on Twitter and ask her. I’m sure she’ll tell you.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 8, 2018 • 7:13:01am

I hear rehab is beautiful this time of year.

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Belafon  May 8, 2018 • 7:13:15am

Stormy needs a handler in the same way I need to be told to get on LGF.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 8, 2018 • 7:14:12am
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Dave In Austin  May 8, 2018 • 7:14:13am

re: #253 Shropshire Slasher

I hear rehab is beautiful this time of year.

No No No…… Don’t wanna go to rehab, No no no……

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 8, 2018 • 7:19:59am

Devout KKKristians! Every last one of them!

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Unshaken Defiance  May 8, 2018 • 7:20:41am

re: #235 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

WINNING!!!

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And that’s how we manufacture enemies to feed the military political snowball of decreased freedom and more lives taken.

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 7:21:58am

re: #250 Belafon

OK, people desperate for someone else to save them.

Some sure. But others are likely just naming folks they know and think are kick ass when it comes to justice without thinking about the pesky details.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 8, 2018 • 7:22:41am

Flashback! Jade Helm victory! Triumphal entry of UN troops into Lubbock, 9-16-2015

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 8, 2018 • 7:22:55am

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 7:25:33am

re: #247 Shropshire Slasher

News cycle has been pretty boring. I am interested in who is Stormy Daniels handler though. I am sure there is a news story in that.

Where in Thanos name is this boring news cycle of which you speak?

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Belafon  May 8, 2018 • 7:27:06am

re: #262 JordanRules

Where in Thanos name is this boring news cycle of which you speak?

Not enough Democrats getting in trouble. That’s why he’s back now: Schneiderman’s in the news not in a good way.

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 7:30:00am

re: #263 Belafon

Not enough Democrats getting in trouble. That’s why he’s back now: Schneiderman’s in the news not in a good way.

I mean how could anyone describe the news cycle as objectively boring?!?! Democracy under fire is soooo cliche. //

Subjectively you can assert it but yeah, that looks real funny in the light.

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Dr Lizardo  May 8, 2018 • 7:31:39am

re: #220 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They will probably be leaning on their closest living relatives to fill in the gaps or damages to their genomes.

That’s what always made me wonder with Jurassic Park…….why didn’t they use the DNA from birds? Birds are the only currently extant species of dinosaurs. Amphibians didn’t make sense.

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Belafon  May 8, 2018 • 7:33:18am

re: #265 Dr Lizardo

That’s what always made me wonder with Jurassic Park…….why didn’t they use the DNA from birds? Birds are the only currently extant species of dinosaurs. Amphibians didn’t make sense.

Plot device. They needed some of the dinosaurs to change gender, which some amphibians are known to do.

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Dr Lizardo  May 8, 2018 • 7:37:12am

re: #266 Belafon

Plot device. They needed some of the dinosaurs to change gender, which some amphibians are known to do.

OK.

Still doesn’t make sense, though, at least not to me.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 8, 2018 • 7:37:17am

re: #266 Belafon

Plot device. They needed some of the dinosaurs to change gender, which some amphibians are known to do.

Also, Ingen was not the most ethical company. Perhaps it was a lot cheaper to use Frog DNA.

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 7:38:36am

Krugman hits back at his colleague Bari Weiss and her continued ridiculousness.

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Belafon  May 8, 2018 • 7:38:45am

re: #268 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, Ingen was not the most ethical company. Perhaps it was a lot cheaper to use Frog DNA.

And, as they explained, they weren’t trying for the most accurate, they were trying for the most exciting.

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Dr Lizardo  May 8, 2018 • 7:39:04am

More storm clouds on the trade horizon:

China has ramped up inspections of pork shipped from the United States, importers and industry sources said, the latest American product to be hit by a potentially costly slowdown at Chinese ports in the past couple of weeks.

Some trade experts said they believe Beijing is sending a defiant warning to Washington in response to sweeping U.S. trade demands made on China last week.

The stepped-up checks have even hit China’s WH Group Ltd., the world’s largest pork company and owner of Smithfield Foods in the U.S., and come amid increasing scrutiny of other U.S. farm goods, including fruit and logs.

reuters.com

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Belafon  May 8, 2018 • 7:39:21am

re: #267 Dr Lizardo

OK.

Still doesn’t make sense, though, at least not to me.

As Electric Cyborg hints at, they were a company first and foremost.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 8, 2018 • 7:40:12am

re: #262 JordanRules

Where in Thanos name is this boring news cycle of which you speak?

Same people saying the same things here.

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Dr Lizardo  May 8, 2018 • 7:42:13am

re: #272 Belafon

As Electric Cyborg hints at, they were a company first.

Ingen was the Sears Holdings of genetic engineering companies, in other words.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 8, 2018 • 7:42:49am

re: #274 Dr Lizardo

Ingen was the Sears Holdings of genetic engineering companies, in other words.

Yes! Nailed it.

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Barefoot Grin  May 8, 2018 • 7:43:45am

re: #234 JordanRules

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Interesting theory.

She looks a little like….

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 7:45:26am

re: #276 Barefoot Grin

She looks a little like….

A lot like!!!!!!!

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 7:46:34am

re: #277 JordanRules

A lot like!!!!!!!

He has a type. I imagine they get tired of him insisting that he call them Ivanka.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 8, 2018 • 7:48:06am

re: #271 Dr Lizardo

More storm clouds on the trade horizon:

reuters.com

So much needs fixing, and all we have is a child that breaks of shits up whatever he touches.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 8, 2018 • 7:51:21am

Aaand todays early challenge to our anger management skills is Sessions deliberately splitting up families as policy. Somebody angry father is going to go violent, seems inevitable when you push those buttons. My god the sheer inhumanity of this policy is something I’d associate with the most awful places around the world. Oh wait…

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ObserverArt  May 8, 2018 • 7:51:53am

re: #262 JordanRules

Where in Thanos name is this boring news cycle of which you speak?

Not enough Democrats in the news.

Notice why he showed up today.

: )

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 7:52:22am

re: #260 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Flashback! Jade Helm victory! Triumphal entry of UN troops into Lubbock, 9-16-2015

That entire kerfuffle was really pumped up by Russian bots and trolls who were amazed at how susceptible the US populace was to such incredible rumors.

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Belafon  May 8, 2018 • 7:52:37am

re: #280 Unshaken Defiance

Aaand todays early challenge to our anger management skills is Sessions deliberately splitting up families as policy. Somebody angry father is going to go violent, seems inevitable when you push those buttons. My god the sheer inhumanity of this policy is something I’d associate with the most awful places around the world. Oh wait…

Definitely with the most awful people in the world.

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Belafon  May 8, 2018 • 7:53:20am

re: #282 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That entire kerfuffle was really pumped up by Russian bots and trolls who were amazed at how susceptible the US populace was to such incredible rumors.

Especially how susceptible those elected to office were.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 7:54:18am

re: #280 Unshaken Defiance

Aaand todays early challenge to our anger management skills is Sessions deliberately splitting up families as policy. Somebody angry father is going to go violent, seems inevitable when you push those buttons. My god the sheer inhumanity of this policy is something I’d associate with the most awful places around the world. Oh wait…

They’re such bastards. Sessions has no humanity at all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 7:55:07am

re: #265 Dr Lizardo

That’s what always made me wonder with Jurassic Park…….why didn’t they use the DNA from birds? Birds are the only currently extant species of dinosaurs. Amphibians didn’t make sense.

Fiction.

Or that amphibian DNA is common to more species

But still fiction.

Because germs.

Diseases evolve parallel with populations they infect, the hosts developing resistance while the germs find new ways to attack.

Introduce a creature from millions of years ago to contemporary germs and they will be infected with diseases to which they have to resistance. Look what smallpox germs did to humans after only a few thousand years of separation when re-introduced.

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Sea Mexican!  May 8, 2018 • 7:55:33am

re: #261 Joe Bacon 🌹

The Greyhound doesn’t have enough buses for this administration.

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ObserverArt  May 8, 2018 • 7:55:53am

re: #273 Shropshire Slasher

Same people saying the same things here.

Trump is still in office and continuing to screw stuff up. The United States remains in peril because of many of the same issues brought on by bad Republican leadership.

So yeah.

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Interesting Times  May 8, 2018 • 7:57:55am

re: #269 JordanRules

Krugman hits back at his colleague Bari Weiss and her continued ridiculousness.

Speaking of which, here’s your “Even a broken squirrel finds a nut twice a day” moment:

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Sir John Barron  May 8, 2018 • 7:58:46am

re: #269 JordanRules

The closest thing to a phone book for the I.D.W. is a sleek website that lists the dramatis personae of the network, including Mr. [Sam] Harris; Mr. Weinstein and his brother and sister-in-law, the evolutionary biologists Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying; Jordan Peterson, the psychologist and best-selling author; the conservative commentators Ben Shapiro and Douglas Murray; Maajid Nawaz, the former Islamist turned anti-extremist activist; and the feminists Ayaan Hirsi Ali [also anti-Islamacist] and Christina Hoff Sommers.

Let’s see, we have Harris, Shapiro, Murray, Nawaz and Ali, five anti-Muslim commentators in this small privileged enclave of oppressed intellectual provocateurs.

I also can’t get over the listing of Ali and Sommers as “feminists”.

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 8:01:11am
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Sir John Barron  May 8, 2018 • 8:02:06am

re: #290 Sir John Barron

The closest thing to a phone book for the I.D.W. is a sleek website that lists the dramatis personae of the network, including Mr. [Sam] Harris; Mr. Weinstein and his brother and sister-in-law, the evolutionary biologists Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying; Jordan Peterson, the psychologist and best-selling author; the conservative commentators Ben Shapiro and Douglas Murray; Maajid Nawaz, the former Islamist turned anti-extremist activist; and the feminists Ayaan Hirsi Ali [also anti-Islamacist] and Christina Hoff Sommers.

All this gang needs is Milo, Rage Furby, and George Zimmerman to round out the crew.

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Ace-o-aces  May 8, 2018 • 8:09:48am

re: #290 Sir John Barron

Let’s see, we have Harris, Shapiro, Murray, Nawaz and Ali, five anti-Muslim commentators in this small privileged enclave of oppressed intellectual provocateurs.

I also can’t get over the listing of Ali and Sommers as “feminists”.

I’d say Ali qualifies as “feminist” in the broad sense, though she only ever attacks the Islamic patriarchy.

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ObserverArt  May 8, 2018 • 8:11:16am

I had forgotten we were voting for State Issue 1 today. I had thought that would be in November. Issue 1 is the not-so-great, but better-than-nothing legislation to change how Congressional districts are drawn to ‘prevent’ gerrymandering.

Issue 1
To amend the version of Section 1 of Article XI that is scheduled to take effect January 1, 2021, and to enact Sections 1, 2, and 3 of Article XIX of the Constitution of the State of Ohio to establish a process for congressional redistricting.
A majority yes vote is necessary for the amendment to pass.

The proposed amendment would:

- End the partisan process for drawing congressional districts, and replace it with a process with the goals of promoting bipartisanship, keeping local communities together, and having district boundaries that are more compact.
- Ensure a transparent process by requiring public hearings and allowing public submission of proposed plans.
- Require the General Assembly or the Ohio Redistricting Commission to adopt new congressional districts by a bipartisan vote for the plan to be effective for the full 10-year period.
- Require that if a plan is adopted by the General Assembly without significant bipartisan support, it cannot be effective for the entire 10-year period and must comply with explicit antigerrymandering requirements.

If passed, the amendment will become effective immediately.

Here are a couple criticisms (from Ballotpedia)

Mike Brickner, senior policy director at the ACLU of Ohio, said the organization neither supported nor opposed Issue 1. Brickner did offer a critique of Issue 1, saying:

In the event that bipartisan compromise cannot be reached, the rules allow for more power to be wielded by the majority party. The moment we codify methods which allow one party - the majority party - to make the rules, we lose any chance of fair and just representation. We applaud the parts of the initiative which ensure public oversight and community input, but the process could easily disintegrate back to a wholly partisan power grab, which is never in the voter’s best interest.

Stephen Wolf, an elections staff writer for the progressive website Daily Kos, stated:

Eliminating gerrymandering doesn’t just require ending one party’s unilateral control over the process, as much as that helps. Who gets to draw the lines and the criteria that guide those mapmakers is also of tremendous importance. In a vacuum, this compromise proposal is better than the status quo of GOP legislators having total control over the process. But we aren’t in a vacuum. Republican legislators shrewdly accepted that momentum was building against partisan gerrymandering, and this compromise is quite simply a way to blunt that momentum while preserving as much of their advantage as possible under a false veneer of bipartisanship.

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 8:12:33am

re: #289 Interesting Times

Speaking of which, here’s your “Even a broken squirrel finds a nut twice a day” moment:

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I’m actually a little surprised.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 8, 2018 • 8:13:03am

re: #292 Sir John Barron

All this gang needs is Milo, Rage Furby, and George Zimmerman to round out the crew.

Well, they have to have SOME standards, after all.

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Sir John Barron  May 8, 2018 • 8:13:49am

re: #295 JordanRules

I’m actually a little surprised.

Me, too. All this anti-Muslim group needs is a Russia Collusion Truther.

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Ace-o-aces  May 8, 2018 • 8:15:57am
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Ace-o-aces  May 8, 2018 • 8:16:37am
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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 8:19:14am
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Barefoot Grin  May 8, 2018 • 8:22:01am

Pretty safe to start any response to a Hemingway comment with “This is an incredibly dumb….”

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ipsos  May 8, 2018 • 8:22:57am

I would have no problem voting for Preet Bharara (or Hillary) as my state’s NY AG.

Yes, either one would have to recuse themselves personally from overseeing investigations regarding Trump. But that doesn’t mean the office of the AG wouldn’t still conduct an investigation. It would simply be headed by a deputy AG without that conflict of interest. That’s how functioning government works, when it’s functioning. Which it still is here in my state.

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Sir John Barron  May 8, 2018 • 8:24:00am

re: #301 Barefoot Grin

Pretty safe to start any response to a Hemingway comment with “This is an incredibly dumb….”

MZHemmingway: The questions were vague, too broad, not specific enough, very unfair to Trump.

Person: Actually the questions were pretty clear, well-defined, and specific.

MZHemmingway: The questions were too specific, very unfair to Trump.

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Barefoot Grin  May 8, 2018 • 8:25:17am

re: #303 Sir John Barron

MZHemmingway: The questions were vague, too broad, not specific enough, very unfair to Trump.

Person: Actually the questions were pretty clear, well-defined, and specific.

MZHemmingway: The questions were too specific, very unfair to Trump.

Who pays for The Federalist anyway!?

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 8:25:42am

re: #304 Barefoot Grin

Who pays for The Federalist anyway!?

Morons?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 8, 2018 • 8:29:00am
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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 8:33:21am

re: #306 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Damn. SMH

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 8:34:41am

re: #306 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

57% of Arab youth surveyed this year see the U.S. as an enemy, and 35% consider the U.S. an ally. That’s almost a complete reversal of the numbers from 2016

This is making me pessimistic. As if we want a war with these people.

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 8:35:22am
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Teukka  May 8, 2018 • 8:36:53am

re: #308 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is making me pessimistic. As if we want a war with these people.

You know, in some religio-politicial circles, there is this notion that there will be an apocalyptic war between Christianity and Islam…

And no, I shit you not.

*SMDH*

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 8, 2018 • 8:39:01am

re: #307 JordanRules

Damn. SMH

re: #308 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is making me pessimistic. As if we want a war with these people.

Smack my own damn head.
I posted that damn tweet hours ago. The link I planned on posting must not have copied

Intended tweet

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Dr Lizardo  May 8, 2018 • 8:42:15am

re: #309 JordanRules

Bolton and Netanyahu want war.

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Belafon  May 8, 2018 • 8:42:25am

re: #309 JordanRules

There’s always “ruin America’s standing in the world,” especially since the other countries aren’t going to pull out.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 8:43:16am

re: #312 Dr Lizardo

Bolton and Netanyahu want war.

Look, if Trump gets backed into a corner, there is no telling what he will do to rally the nation around him…

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makeitstop  May 8, 2018 • 8:43:35am

re: #302 ipsos

I would have no problem voting for Preet Bharara (or Hillary) as my state’s NY AG.

Yes, either one would have to recuse themselves personally from overseeing investigations regarding Trump. But that doesn’t mean the office of the AG wouldn’t still conduct an investigation. It would simply be headed by a deputy AG without that conflict of interest. That’s how functioning government works, when it’s functioning. Which it still is here in my state.

Lawrence Tribe tweeted last night that Preet wouldn’t have to recuse.

I’ll take his word for it.

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Jay C  May 8, 2018 • 8:44:28am

re: #311 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Smack my own damn head.
I posted that damn tweet hours ago. The link I planned on posting must not have copied

Intended tweet

[Embedded content]

Told you so! littlegreenfootballs.com

Not even 24 hours: not sure if this is quite “screaming and gnashing-of-teeth”, but it’s a start: I’m sure the RW media won’t be so measured in their critique once they start running with this……

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Dr Lizardo  May 8, 2018 • 8:45:03am

re: #311 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

BTW, that tweet clearly says that all Mrs. Trump did was add “Be Best” branding to the 2009 booklet and re-distribute it.

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b.d.  May 8, 2018 • 8:45:42am

re: #311 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Smack my own damn head.
I posted that damn tweet hours ago. The link I planned on posting must not have copied

Intended tweet

[Embedded content]

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 8:46:37am

re: #311 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Smack my own damn head.
I posted that damn tweet hours ago. The link I planned on posting must not have copied

Intended tweet

[Embedded content]

Ha! I did that yesterday.
I have the exact same reaction tho. SMH
Like that shitty, hypocritical campaign and their lazy theft of Obama admin work would not invite criticism.

I almost feel like someone in her circle is trolling her. It’s so bad.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 8:49:43am

re: #317 Dr Lizardo

BTW, that tweet clearly says that all Mrs. Trump did was add “Be Best” branding to the 2009 booklet and re-distribute it.

2014 I thought but damn.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 8:50:28am

re: #319 JordanRules

Ha! I did that yesterday.
I have the exact same reaction tho. SMH
Like that shitty, hypocritical campaign and their lazy theft of Obama admin work not invite criticism.

I almost feel like someone in her circle is trolling her. It’s so bad.

There is a form of passive resistance that works that way…just helping them make themselves show the world how hapless they truly are.

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Belafon  May 8, 2018 • 8:50:54am

re: #315 makeitstop

Lawrence Tribe tweeted last night that Preet wouldn’t have to recuse.

I’ll take his word for it.

In that case, I will take my previous concerns back. Let any of them run.

And maybe, once again, we on the left got bit by our need to remain pure.

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 8:51:58am

Sorry Boris, Bolton’s proximity means he can still be the last person Trump speaks to before he “decides”.

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 8:56:27am

I want sooo badly for her to get the gavel back!!

Nancy Smash knows how all this works and does it better than most.

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Belafon  May 8, 2018 • 8:57:12am

re: #323 JordanRules

Sorry Boris, Bolton’s proximity means he can still be the last person Trump speaks to before he “decides”.

True, but the flip side is that Trump loves his TV more than actually talking to people.

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Sir John Barron  May 8, 2018 • 8:58:08am

re: #323 JordanRules

Sorry Boris, Bolton’s proximity means he can still be the last person Trump speaks to before he “decides”.

So have we reached the “Boris Johnson is being the voice of reason” stage of the debate?

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 8:58:51am
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Sir John Barron  May 8, 2018 • 9:00:13am

re: #327 JordanRules

Withdrawing or just not waiving some of the sanctions, or does that amount to the same thing?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 9:03:46am
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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 9:04:06am

Stupid ass re: #328 Sir John Barron

Withdrawing or just not waiving some of the sanctions, or does that amount to the same thing?

Full withdrawal including reinstating all sanctions PLUS bonus sanctions!

Shit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 9:05:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 9:05:10am

re: #330 JordanRules

Stupid ass

Full withdrawal including reinstating all sanctions PLUS bonus sanctions!

Shit.

And the bombing will start within minutes of the latest revelations about his business activities and hush money payments…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 9:06:18am

re: #330 JordanRules

Stupid ass

Full withdrawal including reinstating all sanctions PLUS bonus sanctions!

Shit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 9:07:34am
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Dr Lizardo  May 8, 2018 • 9:08:02am

re: #333 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dumbass. Stupid fucking decision.

Not unexpected, mind you……but still a stupid fucking decision nonetheless.

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I cannot.  May 8, 2018 • 9:08:04am

*quietly loads garbage sacks full of bottlecaps into my car*

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 9:08:10am

re: #330 JordanRules

Stupid ass

Full withdrawal including reinstating all sanctions PLUS bonus sanctions!

Shit.

Oops. Got an errant stupid ass in there. This Iran decision has me typing while mad.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 9:09:26am
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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 9:10:53am

re: #334 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m probably gonna need to watch this doggo video a bunch today.

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Dave In Austin  May 8, 2018 • 9:11:41am
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dangerman  May 8, 2018 • 9:13:15am

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

Apparently, you have to be either the current governor of Missouri or president of the United States to survive one of these things.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 9:18:09am

“…bright and glorious future.”
sounds ominously familiar.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 9:18:37am

so cute that he thinks he actually has a friend:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 9:19:00am

and, still a moron:

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ObserverArt  May 8, 2018 • 9:20:59am

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

so cute that he thinks he actually has a friend:

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Does Donny Dumb Dumb realize he may have just changed the entire dynamics of any kind of a relationship with China and North Korea everybody?

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 8, 2018 • 9:22:17am

Trump only wants to kill the Iran Deal because it’s something Obama did. If GWB had set it up Trump would be touting its virtues.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 9:22:26am

re: #345 ObserverArt

Does Donny Dumb Dumb realize he may have just changed the entire dynamics of any kind of a relationship with China and North Korea everybody?

“dynamics” has too many syllables for him to understand.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 9:22:34am
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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 9:22:51am

re: #346 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump only wants to kill the Iran Deal because it’s something Obama did. If GWB had set it up Trump would be touting its virtues.

I don’t know about that tbh.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 9:23:36am

re: #344 Backwoods_Sleuth

and, still a moron:

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Fuck off you childish dipshit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 9:24:59am
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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 9:25:29am
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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 9:28:47am

re: #352 JordanRules

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Nice to see that acknowledged rather than the bs they’re only opposing Trump.

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dangerman  May 8, 2018 • 9:30:04am

re: #351 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is Manny. He hasn’t seen your croissant. Not sure why you’re questioning him. 13/10 for the honest boy

Manny: DENY!!!!

even if they have pictures

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Belafon  May 8, 2018 • 9:30:31am

re: #352 JordanRules

“Democrats are opposed to Trump’s attempts at destroying health care.”
“See, all they’re doing is running in opposition to Trump.”

That’s exactly what I hear when I see people complaining that all Democrats are doing is opposing Trump. Of course we are. To be otherwise would be like arguing that firefighters are not contributing to society because all they are is anti-fire.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 9:30:51am

re: #354 dangerman

Manny: DENY!!!!

even if they have pictures

PHOTOSHOPPED!

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 9:31:27am

re: #353 HappyWarrior

Nice to see that acknowledged rather than the bs they’re only opposing Trump.

Yes, me too!! People buy into that stupid narrative and it’s just not indicative of what’s happening on the ground.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 9:33:28am
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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 9:33:29am

re: #357 JordanRules

Yes, me too!! People buy into that stupid narrative and it’s just not indicative of what’s happening on the ground.

It’s frustrating to say the least and then people like Sanders help spread it for their own reasons.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 9:33:34am

re: #353 HappyWarrior

Nice to see that acknowledged rather than the bs they’re only opposing Trump.

The only time the press reported on anything other than Hillary e-mails was when she said anything about Trump…

They were happy to show an empty podium waiting for Trump to arrive than to cover a speech she was making on better employment opportunities for handicapped people.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 9:36:41am
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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 9:38:32am

re: #360 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The only time the press reported on anything other than Hillary e-mails was when she said anything about Trump…

They were happy to show an empty podium waiting for Trump to arrive than to cover a speech she was making on better employment opportunities for handicapped people.

Yep and a lot including many on the left ignored that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 9:39:16am

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

I just opened this, and it played Jesus Christ Superstar, Any Dream Will Do and Don’t Cry For Me Argentina.

Something by Uncle Ben Folds Five?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 9:40:19am

re: #358 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 9:41:42am
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b.d.  May 8, 2018 • 9:41:52am

re: #364 Backwoods_Sleuth

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2 case of Ebola from the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Trump will ban everyone from Africa by dinner.

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ObserverArt  May 8, 2018 • 9:42:37am

Anyone think anybody in the Republican party currently sitting on their butts in the House or Senate is going to stand up and say Trump killing the Iran deal is a bad thing?

Yeah…No, probably not.

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 9:44:06am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 9:46:19am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 9:47:39am

re: #368 JordanRules

Dear Trump strategists: You are all invited to come write for Family Guy.

Yunno, I cannot even laugh at Trump jokes anymore…

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makeitstop  May 8, 2018 • 9:47:41am

So, Pruitt considered a Newsweek cover a death threat, and Trump demands an on-air apology from Seth for making jokes.

Snowflakes.

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Sir John Barron  May 8, 2018 • 9:48:26am

re: #367 ObserverArt

Anyone think anybody in the Republican party currently sitting on their butts in the House or Senate is going to stand up and say Trump killing the Iran deal is a bad thing?

Yeah…No, probably not.

I imagine there are some who are close to becoming very concerned…..

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Sir John Barron  May 8, 2018 • 9:50:16am

re: #368 JordanRules

Melania Trump: “When children learn positive online behaviors early on, social media can be used in productive ways.”

“It is our responsibility as adults to educate and remind them that…they must choose their words wisely and speak with respect and compassion.” pic.twitter.com

— This Week (@ThisWeekABC) May 7, 2018

Sick burn.

/

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 9:51:57am
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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 9:52:05am

re: #371 makeitstop

So, Pruitt considered a Newsweek cover a death threat, and Trump demands an on-air apology from Seth for making jokes.

Snowflakes.

[Embedded content]

Thin skinned men baby in Chief.

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 9:52:50am

re: #372 Sir John Barron

I imagine there are some who are close to becoming very concerned…..

Ahh yes. They often fly close to concern, afraid of getting burned.

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Belafon  May 8, 2018 • 9:53:35am

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

DANA: See, we win!

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Sir John Barron  May 8, 2018 • 9:54:47am

re: #330 JordanRules

Stupid ass

Full withdrawal including reinstating all sanctions PLUS bonus sanctions!

Shit.

Watch Iran start cheating on this great deal!
//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 9:56:42am

re: #367 ObserverArt

Anyone think anybody in the Republican party currently sitting on their butts in the House or Senate is going to stand up and say Trump killing the Iran deal is a bad thing?

Yeah…No, probably not.

There was an op-ed in newsmax by no other than Pat Buchannan saying that killing the deal was a bad idea. Was surprised to read that.

Don’t Trash the Nuclear Deal

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ObserverArt  May 8, 2018 • 9:57:48am

re: #379 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There was an op-ed in newsmax by no other than Pat Buchannan saying that killing the deal was a bad idea. Was surprised to read that.

Don’t Trash the Nuclear Deal

Pffft. Deep State Establishment! Never Trumper…RINO!!!

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 9:57:49am

re: #379 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There was an op-ed in newsmax by no other than Pat Buchannan saying that killing the deal was a bad idea. Was surprised to read that.

Don’t Trash the Nuclear Deal

Buchanan hates Israel. So that doesn’t surprise me even if he has valid reasons for keeping the deal.

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allegro  May 8, 2018 • 9:58:46am

Since the US is only one of several countries in the Iran thing the agreement is still in force isn’t it? New sanctions from US means what exactly? Just that we’re assholes who can be ignored?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 9:59:53am

re: #382 allegro

Since the US is only one of several countries in the Iran thing the agreement is still in force isn’t it? New sanctions from US means what exactly? Just that we’re assholes who can be ignored?

I guess we will be reading the details soon. I am sure that Europe would like to salvage what it can out of the deal, but this is the equivalent of the US not ratifying the League of Nations Treaty…

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Belafon  May 8, 2018 • 10:00:53am

I’ll bet anyone $5 that, within the next 48 hours, Putin denounces the sanctions and offers help to Iran.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 10:02:27am

re: #384 Belafon

I’ll bet anyone $5 that, within the next 48 hours, Putin denounces the sanctions and offers help to Iran.

Yep.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 10:03:31am

re: #384 Belafon

I’ll bet anyone $5 that, within the next 48 hours, Putin denounces the sanctions and offers help to Iran.

The more the tensions, the higher oil prices will rise.

America is such a hapless, floundering player on the world economic/political stage right now…

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Dr Lizardo  May 8, 2018 • 10:04:17am

re: #384 Belafon

I’ll bet anyone $5 that, within the next 48 hours, Putin denounces the sanctions and offers help to Iran.

Yeah….Iran and Russia have been ostensibly cozy for quite awhile. Wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest.

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Sir John Barron  May 8, 2018 • 10:05:06am

re: #384 Belafon

I’ll bet anyone $5 that, within the next 48 hours, Putin denounces the sanctions and offers help to Iran.

See how tough I am on Russia! The toughest! Believe me.

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 10:05:40am

Good point.

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Jay C  May 8, 2018 • 10:05:55am

re: #374 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

Why would anyone in Iran want to attack Israel NOW? Diplomacy-wise, their enemies are busily kicking own-goals (and high-fiving themselves over their excellent style): they are likely to get far better results by making themselves out to be the reasonable ones in the deal, and let Trump keep on making the US into the “rogue nation”.

And I do wonder if anyone in the Admin has really thought out the ramifications of pulling out of the JCPOA, outside of the cheap publicity and tough-talk rah-rah from the Deplorables, of course? The international sanctions regime only worked because a bunch of other world players (like China) went along with it. As long as Iran actually does comply (or, seem to comply) with the inspections, etc. and don’t actually set off any nukes, Trump’s new set of sanctions are, in effect, only going to affect the US. Except, of course, if the G is going to try to make complying with those sanctions a condition of trade with anybody else - in which case, yet again, as with his tariff scheme, Trump and his crew are going to seriously fuck up this country’s economy: all in the name of “better deals”, naturally…..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 10:07:27am

re: #389 JordanRules

Let’s stop saying withdrawal. It is a violation of the deal. America is violating an agreement it negotiated. Willingly and blatantly. We have no grounds to withdraw.

That is pretty much what Pat Buchannan was saying:

Iran is making no demands on the United States. Its patrol boats have ceased harassing our warships in the Persian Gulf. Its forces in Iraq and Syria do not interfere with our operations against ISIS. And, according to U.N. inspectors, Iran is abiding by the terms of the nuclear deal.

Iran has never tested a nuclear device and never enriched uranium to weapons grade. Under the deal, Iran has surrendered 95 percent of its uranium, shut down most of its centrifuges and allowed cameras and inspectors into all of its nuclear facilities.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 10:08:23am

This has Bolton’s war hungry mustache prints all over it.

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dangerman  May 8, 2018 • 10:09:18am

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

DANA LOESCH: Gun control people hate that Ollie North is the new NRA prez!
ME: I don’t give a rat’s ass.
DANA: See? You care!
MINION: He’s stalking you! Sick burn!
ME: I still don’t care.
MINION: Which proves you care!
ME: (walks away because NRA people don’t understand words)

i do not engage with stupid people

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 10:10:19am

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 10:10:48am
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ObserverArt  May 8, 2018 • 10:12:01am

re: #390 Jay C

Why would anyone in Iran want to attack Israel NOW? Diplomacy-wise, their enemies are busily kicking own-goals (and high-fiving themselves over their excellent style): they are likely to get far better results by making themselves out to be the reasonable ones in the deal, and let Trump keep on making the US into the “rogue nation”.

…..

Maybe it is just being done to justify violating the deal. Put out a scare as proof that Iran has been wanting to attack all along.

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 10:12:11am

Good thread!

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makeitstop  May 8, 2018 • 10:12:14am

re: #394 JordanRules

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

What did we miss?

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 10:13:01am

re: #398 makeitstop

What did we miss?

Twitter was being cranky. It finally posted at #397.

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dangerman  May 8, 2018 • 10:13:33am

re: #382 allegro

Since the US is only one of several countries in the Iran thing the agreement is still in force isn’t it? New sanctions from US means what exactly? Just that we’re assholes who can be ignored?

very likely yes
iran will figure out if they can live with just us being assholes
if our allies cave, then iran probably fast starts their nuclear program again

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 10:14:11am

re: #397 JordanRules

Good thread!

[Embedded content]

I’d be shocked if he’s read it. Hell I’d be shocked if Trump knows anything about Iran that Fox and Friends haven’t told him.

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Sir John Barron  May 8, 2018 • 10:14:38am

re: #400 dangerman

very likely yes
iran will figure out if they can live with just us being assholes
if our allies cave, then iran probably fast starts their nuclear program again

And the GPO can tell its base that it withdrew from the “really bad deal” and isn’t cooperating with Iran, etc.

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Sir John Barron  May 8, 2018 • 10:15:24am

re: #400 dangerman

very likely yes
iran will figure out if they can live with just us being assholes
if our allies cave, then iran probably fast starts their nuclear program again

Guess it depends on the nature of the sanctions being imposed or reimposed.

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Sir John Barron  May 8, 2018 • 10:16:11am

re: #401 HappyWarrior

I’d be shocked if he’s read it. Hell I’d be shocked if Trump knows anything about Iran that Fox and Friends haven’t told him.

He knows that Iran is a country in Africa, which is a shithole country. What else does he need to know?

//

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 10:16:46am

Alrighty, good stuff.. Keep calm and carry on NYAG’s office.

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Jay C  May 8, 2018 • 10:17:13am

re: #396 ObserverArt

Maybe it is just being done to justify for violating the deal. Put out a scare as proof that Iran has been wanting to attack all along.

Except that Israeli “scares” about Iran - and never mind the general absence of “proof” - have been a staple tactic of theirs for years. And have generally had little effect outside the RW media bubble, except to make said claims even less-credible every time they fail to pan out.

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Interesting Times  May 8, 2018 • 10:19:52am

re: #405 JordanRules

Alrighty, good stuff.. Keep calm and carry on NYAG’s office.

Impressive qualifications aside, it’s extra fitting/symbolic that his replacement is a woman.

Please can the same thing happen in 2020?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 10:20:56am

re: #401 HappyWarrior

I’d be shocked if he’s read it. Hell I’d be shocked if Trump knows anything about Iran that Fox and Friends haven’t told him.

Have we ever heard him speak of it other than in the most general terms or name specific clauses?

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 10:21:40am

re: #408 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Have we ever heard him speak of it other than in the most general terms or name specific clauses?

No and that applies to everything.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 10:25:51am

re: #409 JordanRules

No and that applies to everything.

starting with the Constitution, the ACA, the tax bill, his own travel ban, Stormy Daniels’ NDA…

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ObserverArt  May 8, 2018 • 10:27:12am

re: #408 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Have we ever heard him speak of it other than in the most general terms or name specific clauses?

Give him a nice, big world globe and ask him to point out where Iran is when they hurt him.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 10:27:23am

re: #408 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Have we ever heard him speak of it other than in the most general terms or name specific clauses?

Nope and that applies to any policy as JR just said.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 10:28:49am

re: #409 JordanRules

No and that applies to everything.

It’s very bad okay. Obama and Kerry aren’t as smart as me. I’m going to build a golf course in Iran and it will be great.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 10:32:39am

There’s uninformed and then there’s Trump. An uninformed person wants to know more. Trump thinks he knows more even though he doesn’t know jackshit about Iran or anything other than being a pompous gasbag.

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jaunte  May 8, 2018 • 10:33:04am

Watching Scaramucci this morning on MSNBC pretend he was smarter about international politics than Michael McFaul was a sort of head-exploding encapsulation of the Trump camp’s treatment of the Iran agreement. They’re wrong on the facts, and they won’t listen to any suggestion they can’t be right, but emotionally defend their ignorance.

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Dave In Austin  May 8, 2018 • 10:35:27am

re: #384 Belafon

I’ll bet anyone $5 that, within the next 48 hours, Putin denounces the sanctions and offers help to Iran.

Wait What? I thought that was the plan all along….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 10:36:13am

So where the fuck was Facebook in 2016?

Ireland abortion poll: Facebook to block foreign ads

Facebook has said it will block ads relating to Ireland’s forthcoming referendum on abortion that do not originate from advertisers inside the country.

There had been worries in Ireland that foreign ads could influence the result of the vote.

Facebook has not applied such a policy to British elections or referendums.

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jaunte  May 8, 2018 • 10:40:51am

For anyone who doesn’t believe Putinists are an active enemy of [almost] every American.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 10:42:25am

re: #418 jaunte

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For anyone who doesn’t believe Putinists are an active enemy of [almost] every American.

But Putin loves Jesus, hates Muslims and gays, and is a manly man!//

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 10:44:01am

re: #418 jaunte

[Embedded content]

For anyone who doesn’t believe Putinists are an active enemy of [almost] every American.

There are people who look at modern Russia as a model state: authoritarian, oligarchic, patriarchal, homophobic, xenopobic and theocratic. Only difference is that they prefer fundamentalist Protestantism over Russian Orthodoxy

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jaunte  May 8, 2018 • 10:44:21am
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Barefoot Grin  May 8, 2018 • 10:44:55am

re: #415 jaunte

Watching Scaramucci this morning on MSNBC pretend he was smarter about international politics than Michael McFaul was a sort of head-exploding encapsulation of the Trump camp’s treatment of the Iran agreement. They’re wrong on the facts, and they won’t listen to any suggestion they can’t be right, but emotionally defend their ignorance.

This describes every conservative I interact with on the Internet.

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jaunte  May 8, 2018 • 10:47:01am
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dangerman  May 8, 2018 • 10:47:08am

re: #403 Sir John Barron

Guess it depends on the nature of the sanctions being imposed or reimposed.

What have they got besides The central bank and other Iranian businesses?
Blockades?
Interrupting trade with other nations?
Embargoes?

Our team is not that swift

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jaunte  May 8, 2018 • 10:47:37am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 10:47:44am

re: #424 dangerman

What have they got besides The central bank and other Iranian businesses?
Blockades?
Interrupting trade with other nations?
Embargoes?

Our team is not that swift

America last

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 10:48:27am

re: #421 jaunte

[Embedded content]

She’s correct. Withdrawal will hurt us big time down the road. Not just with the people of Iran but other nations too because it shows we don’t keep our word.

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dangerman  May 8, 2018 • 10:49:27am

re: #408 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Have we ever heard him speak of it other than in the most general terms or name specific clauses?

No reporter has ever asked exactly how is it a bad deal

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 8, 2018 • 10:49:44am

re: #426 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

America last

Seriously. The rest of the world is leaving us in the rearview thanks to Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 8, 2018 • 10:50:06am

re: #425 jaunte

Google Trans says.
In his speech today, Rohani suggested that Iran could remain in the nuclear deal, despite a likely exit from Washington, “if Europe fulfills all our expectations under the agreement and we are get rid of Trump, otherwise we will get out of the deal. “

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jaunte  May 8, 2018 • 10:50:21am

Diplomatically, Trump is the business genius who reduced his banking options from all the banks in the world down to Deutsche Bank and the Russian Mafia.

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Barefoot Grin  May 8, 2018 • 10:50:32am

re: #425 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Congratulations, AirBus. Sorry, Boeing.

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Barefoot Grin  May 8, 2018 • 10:52:24am

re: #428 dangerman

No reporter has ever asked exactly how is it a bad deal

Right. During the entire campaign he kept claiming to know the deal better than anyone and “let me tell you” and do those fucking karate chops and jazz hands moves and no one ever called him on it. Does anyone seriously think he’s read a single sentence of the deal or even about it?

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 10:55:23am

re: #425 jaunte

[Embedded content]

re: #425 jaunte

[Embedded content]

I’m glad to hear that but this will still hurt us because we won’t be trusted.

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jaunte  May 8, 2018 • 10:57:28am
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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 10:59:08am

re: #435 jaunte

[Embedded content]

You’re an idiot. France is upset because it upsets the peace process and Bibi is only happy because Bibi is a war hungry asshole who needs a bombastic Iran for his own power.

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dangerman  May 8, 2018 • 10:59:27am

re: #426 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

America last

There won’t be a big enough asterisk for this administration in the history books

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Hecuba's daughter  May 8, 2018 • 11:15:48am

re: #433 Barefoot Grin

Right. During the entire campaign he kept claiming to know the deal better than anyone and “let me tell you” and do those fucking karate chops and jazz hands moves and no one ever called him on it. Does anyone seriously think he’s read a single sentence of the deal or even about it?

The only thing Trump reads is the Teleprompter when he is forced to read a prepared speech. Other than that, he reads nothing. So of course he didn’t read the deal and if someone tried to explain it to him, he would ignore the person entirely. He wants only short bullet point statements of one syllable words that fit on a single page, in really large type,

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 8, 2018 • 11:22:04am

re: #427 HappyWarrior

She’s correct. Withdrawal will hurt us big time down the road. Not just with the people of Iran but other nations too because it shows we don’t keep our word.

Some weasel from the WH legislative office was on NPR this morning and Innskeep asked him that exact question. It turns out that we won’t be breaking our word because Iran already broke it by mumble, mumble and it’s obviously such a poorly negotiated deal that no one can fault the US for reneging.

Oh, except everyone, but they’re wrong and USA USA. Or, something.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 8, 2018 • 11:34:09am

re: #326 Sir John Barron

So have we reached the “Boris Johnson is being the voice of reason” stage of the debate?

He’s the “Average Joe” Bauers of this Idiocracy.

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Patricia Kayden  May 8, 2018 • 12:09:31pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

What were Republicans actually for in the Obama years?

Keep the Black man from getting anything done including successfully blocking a SCOTUS nominee.


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