Here’s the Full Document Dropped Today by Michael Avenatti With Damning New Evidence of Russian Collusion

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So am I right assuming that every damned day is going to be like this from now on?

Today’s entry in the parade of sleazebags, abnormalities and villains known as the Trump administration is a stunning document dropped by adult film star Stormy Daniels’ lawyer, Michael Avenatti, with allegations and evidence that Trump’s fixer Michael Cohen received hundreds of thousands of dollars from a Russian oligarch with close ties to Vladimir Putin — after the election.

The Daily Beast has now confirmed this part of Avenatti’s document.

And here’s the document in full, to read at your leisure. Don’t indulge in too much leisure, though — you might miss a new development.

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Charles Johnson  May 8, 2018 • 4:59:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 4:59:45pm

“(a) Essential is a real estate consulting company that collects fees for investment consulting work”

So THAT’S what they call it these days.

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freetoken  May 8, 2018 • 5:01:00pm

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Targetpractice  May 8, 2018 • 5:01:26pm

It’s like I’ve said before, I will die laughing if the thing that brings Trump down is an NDA with a porn star.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 8, 2018 • 5:02:03pm

Cheeto could be caught buggering an American eagle in the middle of the Washington Mall and his base would praise him for his newfound concern for wildlife and national symbols.
Fortunately for civilization, Cheeto’s base is a relatively small fraction of the population. That doesn’t keep them from tuning themselves up for civil war, since they labor under the delusion that they have all the guns.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 5:02:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 5:03:02pm
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Brian J.  May 8, 2018 • 5:04:06pm

In the outdoor insane asylum of West Virginia, a lot of people got excited about Richard Ojeda for the 3rd District Congressional race. Here’s a sample. Local Democrats looked the guy over and decided they’d rather not have a guy who voted for Cheeto Jesus and are going with State Rep. Shirley Love, who is a man and appears to be somewhere over 85 years old. (He’s been married for 65 years, according to his website.)

Meanwhile, Joe Manchin is ahead of BernieBroesque Paula Jean Swearangin by just about 2-1.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 5:04:42pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I really think that’s a winning issue we could run on. Kind of like how the GOP took advantage of people wanting term limits in the 90’s.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 5:07:08pm

Blankenship not doing too well in the early going.
Rather weak showing so far, tbh — 16% compared to Morrisey’s 46%

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 8, 2018 • 5:07:09pm

Last night at 4 PM PDT, the news dropped on Schneiderman. By 7 PM he was out. All the news last night was Schneiderman.

Today at 11-ish AM PDT, Trump announced we’d be violating the Iran nuke deal. The news was all about that for a couple hours. (Schneiderman? Who’s Schneiderman?)

Then at 2PM PDT, Michael Avennati drops the Cohen documents showing Russian oligarchs and Fortune 500 companies paying into the same slush fund that paid off Stormy Daniels (Iran? Who’s Iran?)

So. What’s next? What’s gonna drop at 6 PM that pushes the Cohen stuff below the fold?

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freetoken  May 8, 2018 • 5:08:07pm

re: #11 Blind Frog Belly White

So. What’s next? What’s gonna drop at 6 PM that pushes the Cohen stuff below the fold?

The only news I fear is one of an “imminent impactor”.

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ipsos  May 8, 2018 • 5:08:40pm

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

Blankenship not doing too well in the early going.
Rather weak showing so far, tbh — 16% compared to Morrisey’s 46%

These are very tiny returns, at least on the NYT site - less than 1% of the vote in. I wouldn’t draw any conclusions on this one yet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 5:08:41pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 8, 2018 • 5:08:49pm

re: #12 freetoken

The only news I fear is one of an “imminent impactor”.

SMOD?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 8, 2018 • 5:09:12pm

re: #11 Blind Frog Belly White

Last night at 4 PM PDT, the news dropped on Schneiderman. By 7 PM he was out. All the news last night was Schneiderman.

Today at 11-ish AM PDT, Trump announced we’d be violating the Iran nuke deal. The news was all about that for a couple hours. (Schneiderman? Who’s Schneiderman?)

Then at 2PM PDT, Michael Avennati drops the Cohen documents showing Russian oligarchs and Fortune 500 companies paying into the same slush fund that paid off Stormy Daniels (Iran? Who’s Iran?)

So. What’s next? What’s gonna drop at 6 PM that pushes the Cohen stuff below the fold?

I admit I’ve gotten addicted—if nothing new happens for a few hours now I start getting withdrawal symptoms.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 5:09:15pm

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Who honestly is shocked by this?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 5:09:31pm

re: #13 ipsos

These are very tiny returns, at least on the NYT site - less than 1% of the vote in. I wouldn’t draw any conclusions on this one yet.

I’m just enjoying the brief moment.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 5:11:14pm

Ohioans. Is DeWine or Taylor the more beatable candidate?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 5:11:19pm
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Unshaken Defiance  May 8, 2018 • 5:11:44pm

re: #12 freetoken

The only news I fear is one of an “imminent impactor”.

Israeli MIRVs on Iran.

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Brian J.  May 8, 2018 • 5:12:14pm

re: #13 ipsos

These are very tiny returns, at least on the NYT site - less than 1% of the vote in. I wouldn’t draw any conclusions on this one yet.

Politico’s site seems to be further along. It’s closer there: Morrissey 36, Jenkins 26, Blankenship 23.

politico.com

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 5:13:02pm

Republicans deserve people like Blankenship to represent them. People who don’t give a fuck about them.

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Danack  May 8, 2018 • 5:14:18pm

Well, that certainly explains a few things:

Trump didn’t initially bring in Giuliani because ‘he was drinking too much’

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 5:15:01pm
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Brian J.  May 8, 2018 • 5:15:05pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

Republicans deserve people like Blankenship to represent them. People who don’t give a fuck about them.

Agreed. And that’s also why I think Democrats just need to drop programs to try to bring first-world health care or education or infrastructure to rural white-majority areas; the locals don’t want them or anything to do with the modern world. Focus on improving the cities.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 8, 2018 • 5:16:12pm

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ipsos  May 8, 2018 • 5:16:38pm

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Schneider-who? That feels like a year ago after the week we had today.

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Skip Intro  May 8, 2018 • 5:17:10pm

re: #28 ipsos

Schneider-who? That feels like a year ago after the week we had today.

Thanks, Trump!

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 5:17:16pm

re: #26 Brian J.

Agreed. And that’s also why I think Democrats just need to drop programs to try to bring first-world health care or education or infrastructure to rural white-majority areas; the locals don’t want them or anything to do with the modern world. Focus on improving the cities.

I don’t quite feel that way because there are kids in those areas but I don’t have a whole lot of pity for them for continuing to shoot themselves and their kids in the dicks.

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Barefoot Grin  May 8, 2018 • 5:17:18pm

OT: big smile on my face as I print out tickets for July Brandi Carlile/Jason Isbell concerts—taking the family!

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 5:17:48pm

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m glad we’re handling this correctly. I’m not a big fan of Cuomo but he’s handling this correctly.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 5:17:57pm

re: #31 Barefoot Grin

OT: big smile on my face as I print out tickets for July Brandi Carlile/Jason Isbell concerts—taking the family!

Sweet.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 5:19:51pm

Hey libs, watch as I nominate this genuinely horrible person for a key position! That’ll show ya!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 5:20:02pm

YAY!!!

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freetoken  May 8, 2018 • 5:20:44pm

re: #15 Blind Frog Belly White

SMOD?

re: #21 Unshaken Defiance

Israeli MIRVs on Iran.

I was thinking of something a bit bigger…

The other night I linked to a new paper on the arxiv about detecting imminent impactors, as in, things that hit the planet.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 8, 2018 • 5:21:17pm

Jesus H. Fucking Christ. I disappear for an evening to indulge in some Pokemon Go and the whole political world goes up in smoke. I suppose that’s life in the post-24-hour-news-cycle world. Evening Lizardim, how go things?

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PhillyPretzel  May 8, 2018 • 5:22:07pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thanks Harvard. Another good reason to love chocolate. :)

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ipsos  May 8, 2018 • 5:22:26pm

re: #37 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Jesus H. Fucking Christ. I disappear for an evening to indulge in some Pokemon Go and the whole political world goes up in smoke. I suppose that’s life in the post-24-hour-news-cycle world. Evening Lizardim, how go things?

We’re all just glad it’s Friday, mostly.

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 5:22:33pm

Horrible person, just a horrible person.

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b.d.  May 8, 2018 • 5:22:47pm

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

Blankenship not doing too well in the early going.
Rather weak showing so far, tbh — 16% compared to Morrisey’s 46%

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Barefoot Grin  May 8, 2018 • 5:23:34pm

re: #40 JordanRules

Horrible person, just a horrible person.

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Neck circumcision didn’t take.

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freetoken  May 8, 2018 • 5:24:28pm

re: #40 JordanRules

How can he stand without a spine?

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Romantic Heretic  May 8, 2018 • 5:24:44pm

re: #11 Blind Frog Belly White

So. What’s next? What’s gonna drop at 6 PM that pushes the Cohen stuff below the fold?

Trump starts the war he wants.

It will be against Germany in order to stop The Holocaust.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 8, 2018 • 5:25:04pm

re: #43 freetoken

How can he stand without a spine?

He’s propped up by his ego.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 5:26:23pm

re: #40 JordanRules

Horrible person, just a horrible person.

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Given that Cruz has stood by Trump after Trump said his father killed JFK and attacked his wife’s looks. That’s that party in a nutshell.

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Patricia Kayden  May 8, 2018 • 5:26:31pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s why I eat chocolate every day!! Lol

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jamesfirecat  May 8, 2018 • 5:27:26pm

Trump nixing the Iran deal sucks majorly and is going to have horrific long term consequences for America and the world at large, water wet, bears defecate in woods, Pope still Catholic.

I guess sometimes you have to draw your strength from the small victories. In this case that particular “small victory” is that today I finally managed to finish up the Grand Campaign (East) of Slitherine Studios Panzer Corps, which I’ve been playing (on and off, mostly off for the last two years) for 4 years!

Also I am aware of the irony dealing with the subject matter given the overall political situation, especially since is VE day, but like I said, lets not overanalyze.

So… yay!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 5:29:06pm
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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 5:29:12pm
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Barefoot Grin  May 8, 2018 • 5:30:29pm

re: #47 Patricia Kayden

That’s why I eat chocolate every day!! Lol

Sausage gravy and biscuits, three eggs, three or four strips of bacon, and a bar of dark chocolate for afters. There’s a breakfast I can get behind.

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Brian J.  May 8, 2018 • 5:30:39pm

Well, that Ojeda guy I mentioned in the last thread has pulled well ahead in the WV-3 race, while Manchin’s been called the winner in the Senate race, and that does it for my interest in the Eastern Coal Sludge State.

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Brian J.  May 8, 2018 • 5:32:50pm

Politico’s called Cordray the winner in Ohio, where his lead over Assad’s favorite Clevelander is holding at just under 3-1.

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freetoken  May 8, 2018 • 5:33:03pm

The Facebook news feed finally got the Cohen payments story on its top list.

So I click on it …. and notice all the stories that are being fed to me are from sources that I might otherwise approve…

Facebook is filtering its news to me, probably because I’ve been dinging at groups/people who are Trumpers. Facebook has figured out my “political leanings” - on my profile page Facebook has determined that I am a “moderate” - so now my news sources are all the standard ones like ABC, CNN, etc. Facebook is not feeding me Fox News or any of the very numerous right-wing hate blogs that cover this these topics.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 8, 2018 • 5:33:23pm

re: #51 Barefoot Grin

Sausage gravy and biscuits, three eggs, three or four strips of bacon, and a bar of dark chocolate for afters. There’s a breakfast I can get behind.

I’ve been reminding everybody for years that bacon grease has the same balance of saturated/monounsaturated/polyunsaturated fat as the much-vaunted olive oil, but it’s a hard sell….

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 5:33:39pm
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Targetpractice  May 8, 2018 • 5:34:57pm

re: #56 JordanRules

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But remember, folks, it was Hillary that had to produce speech transcripts to show she wasn’t in the pocket of the banks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 5:35:05pm
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Barefoot Grin  May 8, 2018 • 5:36:01pm

re: #55 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve been reminding everybody for years that bacon grease has the same balance of saturated/monounsaturated/polyunsaturated fat as the much-vaunted olive oil, but it’s a hard sell….

I’m buying!

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 5:36:52pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 8, 2018 • 5:38:14pm

re: #59 Barefoot Grin

I’m buying!

People seem to think that “bacon grease” and “lard” are synonymous terms—but lard is what’s left after the lower-melting fractions in bacon grease are rendered out.

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gocart mozart  May 8, 2018 • 5:38:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 5:39:33pm
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Barefoot Grin  May 8, 2018 • 5:39:37pm

re: #61 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

People seem to think that “bacon grease” and “lard” are synonymous terms—but lard is what’s left after the lower-melting fractions in bacon grease are rendered out.

I didn’t know that, but I love bacon grease dripped on salads and my wife.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 8, 2018 • 5:40:22pm

re: #55 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve been reminding everybody for years that bacon grease has the same balance of saturated/monounsaturated/polyunsaturated fat as the much-vaunted olive oil, but it’s a hard sell….

Not around here. I keep a stock of bacon grease in a ramekin way back in the refrig. When I sear beef, it happens in bacon fat. Olive oil for more delicate meats like fish. And I love the flavor of half butter half olive oil on pasta. I better start dinner. Pulled pork we seared and finished in a slow cooker pot.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 8, 2018 • 5:40:32pm

re: #55 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve been reminding everybody for years that bacon grease has the same balance of saturated/monounsaturated/polyunsaturated fat as the much-vaunted olive oil, but it’s a hard sell….

My grandmother lived well into her 90’s, and she was a daughter of the Depression who cooked literally everything with bacon grease. I’m a believer.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 5:41:05pm
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freetoken  May 8, 2018 • 5:41:41pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

Since DeWine has beat Cordray in their previous head-to-head race, is it expected that DeWine will end up winning in Nov?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 5:42:28pm

re: #68 freetoken

Since DeWine has beat Cordray in their previous head-to-head race, is it expected that DeWine will end up winning in Nov?

I’ll let Observer Art handle that one.

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Targetpractice  May 8, 2018 • 5:42:41pm

re: #62 gocart mozart

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This is what happens when your party spends decades convincing its voters that Nixon’s “real” crime was getting caught, that nothing he did was truly illegal because “everybody else was doing it.”

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Barefoot Grin  May 8, 2018 • 5:43:27pm

re: #66 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My grandmother lived well into her 90’s, and she was a daughter of the Depression who cooked literally everything with bacon grease. I’m a believer.

My great-grandmother live to 104 on a prairie diet of meat and potatoes. My great uncle (one of her sons) was a soil scientist and he was very careful about what he ate; he lived to 102. My grandmother ate the meat and potatoes diet, but lived on black coffee and burnt toast in her later years—she only made it to a few days shy of 99.

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MsJ  May 8, 2018 • 5:43:56pm

re: #56 JordanRules

They need to fine these companies. BIGLY fines… Like multi-millions.

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jeffreyw  May 8, 2018 • 5:44:21pm

re: #51 Barefoot Grin

Sausage gravy and biscuits, three eggs, three or four strips of bacon, and a bar of dark chocolate for afters. There’s a breakfast I can get behind.

Hmm…

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Unshaken Defiance  May 8, 2018 • 5:45:05pm

re: #71 Barefoot Grin

In the early years of my marriage the wife was convinced of the evils of real butter and we made do with margarine. Then we found out margarine is no better and it is now perma banned from our home.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 5:45:16pm

re: #68 freetoken

Since DeWine has beat Cordray in their previous head-to-head race, is it expected that DeWine will end up winning in Nov?

Probably gives DeWine a slight advantage but I think it really depends on the electorate mood. We had a very close AG race between Creigh Deeds and Bob McDonnell. Four years later. They ran against each other for governor and unfortunately for Va, McDonnell won in a landslide. 2005 was a very Democratic year and 2009 was a Republican one.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 8, 2018 • 5:45:29pm

re: #70 Targetpractice

This is what happens when your party spends decades convincing its voters that Nixon’s “real” crime was getting caught, that nothing he did was truly illegal because “everybody else was doing it.”

“It’s only cheating if you get caught.”

Al Bundy wins a gold medal

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Barefoot Grin  May 8, 2018 • 5:45:50pm

re: #74 Unshaken Defiance

In the early years of my marriage the wife was convinced of the evils of real butter and we made do with margarine. Then we found out margarine is no better and it is banned from our home.

Here, too. We believe it is worse.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 5:45:58pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 8, 2018 • 5:46:21pm

re: #51 Barefoot Grin

Sausage gravy and biscuits, three eggs, three or four strips of bacon, and a bar of dark chocolate for afters. There’s a breakfast I can get behind.

Or, perhaps, get around.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 8, 2018 • 5:46:52pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If that means we don’t have to put up with Trump anymore, GOOD. Besides, everybody thinks us Minnesotans are Canadian anyway.

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Brian J.  May 8, 2018 • 5:48:03pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Merci. Now to see if we can get France to take us back…

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ObserverArt  May 8, 2018 • 5:49:03pm

re: #19 HappyWarrior

Ohioans. Is DeWine or Taylor the more beatable candidate?

Taylor. DeWine seems to always be loved for some reason. The guy has held just about every damn political office in Ohio over his very long career.

You would think people would be sick of such an established career politician.

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teleskiguy  May 8, 2018 • 5:49:15pm

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Cheechako  May 8, 2018 • 5:49:41pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

Don’t let him know where Alaska came from.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 5:49:50pm

I’m glad Kucinich lost. Good riddance. As you all know, a long time ago in a teenagerhood far far away, I was an admirer of his but speaking on behalf of Assad, going along with a lot of Trumpism, and becoming the worst of Ron Paul and Trump but on the left, I’m glad he’s done. In fact, I have less use for Kucinich than I do Sanders. I may not like Sanders but I haven’t seen him justify the Assad regime.

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Barefoot Grin  May 8, 2018 • 5:50:13pm

re: #79 Blind Frog Belly White

Or, perhaps, get around.

Get on the outside of.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 5:50:29pm

re: #82 ObserverArt

Taylor. DeWine seems to always be loved for some reason. The guy has held just about every damn political office in Ohio over his very long career.

You would think people would be sick of such an established career politician.

Thanks man. Yeah you would think they would be too. I remember when he and Voinovich were your senators and Voinovich voted against the Bolton UN Ambassador nomination.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 8, 2018 • 5:50:51pm

re: #77 Barefoot Grin

Here, too. We believe it is worse.

We always bought margarine because, you know…poor. But unless the tRump administration reverses it, which they might, “real” margarine is supposed to disappear this October. And no, the 40-70%-water “spread” is not “Great for Baking™”!

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Brian J.  May 8, 2018 • 5:51:20pm

From Politico’s live feed, after the fall of Kucinich:

Daniel Strauss
Campaign reporter, 8:46 p.m.
But now we know: feeling “the Bern” without Bernie isn’t the same or nearly close. This is probably a disappointing sign for the ranks of BernieWorld-backed candidates elsewhere. Right now Cordray’s margin of victory over Kucinich isn’t even close.

Only about two years late, guys. And has anyone else seen the term BernieWorld before? If the media are so down on him that they start treating him like the Clintons, he’s really screwed.

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ipsos  May 8, 2018 • 5:51:25pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

I’m glad Kucinich lost. Good riddance. As you all know, a long time ago in a teenagerhood far far away, I was an admirer of his but speaking on behalf of Assad, going along with a lot of Trumpism, and becoming the worst of Ron Paul and Trump but on the left, I’m glad he’s done. In fact, I have less use for Kucinich than I do Sanders. I may not like Sanders but I haven’t seen him justify the Assad regime.

Another BIG win for Nina Turner!!!!

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 5:51:50pm
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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 5:53:00pm

re: #90 ipsos

Another BIG win for Nina Turner!!!!

Nina “Reverse Midas” Turner.

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 5:53:04pm

re: #89 Brian J.

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ObserverArt  May 8, 2018 • 5:53:12pm

re: #43 freetoken

How can he stand without a spine?

The Trump pole up his ass keeps him upright.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 8, 2018 • 5:53:31pm

re: #84 Cheechako

Don’t let him know where Alaska came from.

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Brian J.  May 8, 2018 • 5:54:10pm

re: #93 JordanRules

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Like the end of Spinal Tap, only I’m pretty sure there’s no market for Bernie in Japan.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 5:54:26pm

re: #89 Brian J.

From Politico’s live feed, after the fall of Kucinich:

Daniel Strauss
Campaign reporter, 8:46 p.m.
But now we know: feeling “the Bern” without Bernie isn’t the same or nearly close. This is probably a disappointing sign for the ranks of BernieWorld-backed candidates elsewhere. Right now Cordray’s margin of victory over Kucinich isn’t even close.

Only about two years late, guys. And has anyone else seen the term BernieWorld before? If the media are so down on him that they start treating him like the Clintons, he’s really screwed.

Bernie I think will struggle in 2020. The college kids that worshiped him in 2016 will be four years older and more mature. Point of reference, my own teenage admiration for Kucinich fading by 2008 when I was 21.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 5:55:07pm

re: #93 JordanRules

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Maybe Bernie should choose candidates based on their attributes rather than if they backed him or not. That literally is the only reason why he’s backing Jealous.

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Barefoot Grin  May 8, 2018 • 5:55:13pm

re: #88 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

We always bought margarine because, you know…poor. But unless the tRump administration reverses it, which they might, “real” margarine is supposed to disappear this October. And no, the 40-70%-water “spread” is not “Great for Baking™”!

My family, too, when I was a child. Mom used the old term “oleo.” (Disclosure: DW has to use a dairy-free/gluten-free substitute, but things like bacon grease for cooking are a-ok.)

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 5:56:56pm

How much corruption can be revealed on one fine Tuesday in May??

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Bubblehead II  May 8, 2018 • 5:57:07pm

Damn. Got CL’ed. And thus she becomes legend. .

littlegreenfootballs.com

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freetoken  May 8, 2018 • 5:57:31pm

re: #99 Barefoot Grin

I think my mother and grandmother also used the term “oleo”.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 8, 2018 • 5:57:41pm

re: #95 Unshaken Defiance

Hawaii has people being burned out of their homes by fucking lava and not a peep from Cheetolini. Volcanoes, hurricanes, what’s the difference?

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Brian J.  May 8, 2018 • 5:58:03pm

With 42 percent of the vote in, Congresscretin Robert Pittenger trails 50-45% in NC-9, making this Cheeto-hugger* a likely first casualty of the primary season.

*Pittenger’s tried to wrap himself in Trump throughout this primary. In fact, he accused Mark Harris of “[working] to stop Trump from being president” in his first TV ad. - from Politico’s live feed.

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austin_blue  May 8, 2018 • 5:58:11pm

re: #43 freetoken

How can he stand without a spine?

Exoskeleton.

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ipsos  May 8, 2018 • 5:58:28pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

Bernie I think will struggle in 2020. The college kids that worshiped him in 2016 will be four years older and more mature. Point of reference, my own teenage admiration for Kucinich fading by 2008 when I was 21.

Pushing 80 ain’t gonna help him any, either. Running a national campaign takes a certain amount of stamina that just simply isn’t there after a certain age. It’s bound to show, probably at an inopportune moment.

And there’s simply the novelty factor. Would John Anderson have had much appeal in 1984? Ross Perot in 1996?

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 5:58:37pm

Here’s the crux of why I think Bernie will struggle in 2020. He won’t have that new car feel to voters anymore. Voters know Bernie by now. Most of us have our opinions. Also, he’s getting older and older. With how Trump bullshited his physical, are voters really going to want a guy who will turn 80 his first year in office?!?! And most importantly more candidates means more scrutiny on his record. It was relatively easy for him to run against HRC as the scrappy underdog. It won’t be as easy when the field is wide open.

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Brian J.  May 8, 2018 • 5:59:12pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

Bernie I think will struggle in 2020. The college kids that worshiped him in 2016 will be four years older and more mature. Point of reference, my own teenage admiration for Kucinich fading by 2008 when I was 21.

I doubt he even runs. Either the DoJ, FEC, or Mueller will get him before he reaches the starting line.

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freetoken  May 8, 2018 • 5:59:32pm

re: #104 Brian J.

You mean Robert Pittenger, don’t you?

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:00:03pm

re: #106 ipsos

Pushing 80 ain’t gonna help him any, either. Running a national campaign takes a certain amount of stamina that just simply isn’t there after a certain age. It’s bound to show, probably at an inopportune moment.

And there’s simply the novelty factor. Would John Anderson have had much appeal in 1984? Ross Perot in 1996?

Those are good points too.

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Brian J.  May 8, 2018 • 6:00:20pm

re: #109 freetoken

You mean Robert Pittenger, don’t you?

Yep, corrected. Mark Harris is his main opponent.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:00:26pm

re: #108 Brian J.

I doubt he even runs. Either the DoJ, FEC, or Mueller will get him before he reaches the starting line.

I dunno. We’ll see. He won’t be missed by me though.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:03:45pm

I think what I’m looking for in a candidate isn’t just someone who has demonstrated consistent opposition to Trump and his agenda but someone who is the opposite of him as a person. Someone who is not only compassionate but someone who knows how be an effective leader. I personally think it’s a bummer that Biden is in his 70’s because in many ways I think Biden would be an ideal candidate but I want someone younger and yes someone more diverse.

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ObserverArt  May 8, 2018 • 6:04:44pm

re: #68 freetoken

Since DeWine has beat Cordray in their previous head-to-head race, is it expected that DeWine will end up winning in Nov?

No!

That was the race for Attorney General. A run for Governor should be a lot closer. Remember DeWine lost to Sherrod Brown for the senate reelection.

Brown will be a big help as will both DeWine fatigue and Blue Wave from especially northeastern Ohio and most likely Columbus and Toledo.

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austin_blue  May 8, 2018 • 6:04:46pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 8, 2018 • 6:04:53pm

re: #106 ipsos

Pushing 80 ain’t gonna help him any, either. Running a national campaign takes a certain amount of stamina that just simply isn’t there after a certain age. It’s bound to show, probably at an inopportune moment.

And there’s simply the novelty factor. Would John Anderson have had much appeal in 1984? Ross Perot in 1996?

Didn’t PEA-row run again in ‘96? Got 10% of the vote, I think, vs. 20% in ‘92.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 8, 2018 • 6:05:30pm
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Unshaken Defiance  May 8, 2018 • 6:05:41pm

Okay fellow foodies who enjoy bacon fat and real butter. Next mind blowing concept-MSG is not toxic. We can use our Maggi again.
fivethirtyeight.com

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Anymouse 🌹  May 8, 2018 • 6:06:15pm

re: #26 Brian J.

Agreed. And that’s also why I think Democrats just need to drop programs to try to bring first-world health care or education or infrastructure to rural white-majority areas; the locals don’t want them or anything to do with the modern world. Focus on improving the cities.

Gee, thanks. You know we’re not all conservatives out here, nor are we all rich enough to move to a city.

In the meantime, it looks like my sister will be leaving California because after the death of her wife, she’s been dropped off the poverty cliff.

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ipsos  May 8, 2018 • 6:06:40pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Those are good points too.

GMTA, etc. :)

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:07:01pm

re: #116 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Didn’t PEA-row run again in ‘96? Got 10% of the vote, I think, vs. 20% in ‘92.

Yeah he did. Got 18% in 1992 but got only 8% in 1996. As Ipsos said, novelty wore off. It will be the same with Sanders and I’m fine with tbat because I’m sick of stupid right wingers acting like young people embracing Sanders is somehow proof of the youth being socialists. It’s not.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:07:44pm

re: #120 ipsos

GMTA, etc. :)

That they do.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 8, 2018 • 6:07:49pm

re: #117 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Why in the hell does he always think he’s running against McConnell? Does he not know what state he’s in?

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Unshaken Defiance  May 8, 2018 • 6:07:56pm

re: #26 Brian J.

Agreed. And that’s also why I think Democrats just need to drop programs to try to bring first-world health care or education or infrastructure to rural white-majority areas; the locals don’t want them or anything to do with the modern world. Focus on improving the cities.

Sorry, No. Help for all or help for none says this city bred man.

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Kilroy was here  May 8, 2018 • 6:08:07pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

I think Trump is more in line to giving Alaska back to Putin and pals.

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 6:08:57pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 8, 2018 • 6:09:08pm

re: #106 ipsos

Pushing 80 ain’t gonna help him any, either. Running a national campaign takes a certain amount of stamina that just simply isn’t there after a certain age. It’s bound to show, probably at an inopportune moment.

And there’s simply the novelty factor. Would John Anderson have had much appeal in 1984? Ross Perot in 1996?

Perot actually did run again in 1996 and got 8.4% of the vote from folks who weren’t paying attention.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:09:21pm

re: #124 Unshaken Defiance

Sorry, No. Help for all or help for none says this city bred man.

Agreed. i’m frustrated as hell by them but I don’t want to starve them. I just wish they would look at who they’re voting for.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:10:24pm

re: #127 Blind Frog Belly White

Perot actually did run again in 1996 and got 8.4% of the vote from folks who weren’t paying attention.

But that does prove the novelty factor. I read just as much negative comments about Bernie on stories about him as I do positive from liberals. We can’t underestimate that he does in fact have appeal but my prediction stands.

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ObserverArt  May 8, 2018 • 6:11:50pm

re: #99 Barefoot Grin

My family, too, when I was a child. Mom used the old term “oleo.” (Disclosure: DW has to use a dairy-free/gluten-free substitute, but things like bacon grease for cooking are a-ok.)

I haven’t seen anyone mention oleo in forever.

Here is a rockin’ hard blues tune called Oleo.

CACTUS Oleo.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:11:54pm

re: #123 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Why in the hell does he always think he’s running against McConnell? Does he not know what state he’s in?

I’m sure a lot of WV Republicans feel the same way.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 8, 2018 • 6:12:49pm

re: #129 HappyWarrior

But that does prove the novelty factor. I read just as much negative comments about Bernie on stories about him as I do positive from liberals. We can’t underestimate that he does in fact have appeal but my prediction stands.

Perot was flat out, bug fuck nuts, and he got 18% of the vote in 1992. Nothing he said made any sense, except he appealed to the same anger that Trump appeals to, but which became a lot more racialized after 2008.

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freetoken  May 8, 2018 • 6:12:53pm

re: #123 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Why in the hell does he always think he’s running against McConnell? Does he not know what state he’s in?

Chyna people.

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 6:12:59pm

Today is nuts. Again.

Someone in the morning thread said they found the news cycle boring. Hmph.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:13:07pm

Blankenship is a distant third. Good. Maybe the Republican voters of WV have more moral fiber than the Republican ones that nominated and then supported Moore.

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Cheechako  May 8, 2018 • 6:13:09pm

re: #125 Kilroy was here

I think Trump is more in line to giving Alaska back to Putin and pals.

NOOOOO! I can’t speak Russian. (Beside that the State is broke, so who would want us?

Edit: See the Page I posted about Alaska finances.

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freetoken  May 8, 2018 • 6:13:56pm

re: #135 HappyWarrior

The Republican candidate from WV will still be a Trumper regardless of who is nominated.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:14:02pm

re: #132 Blind Frog Belly White

Perot was flat out, bug fuck nuts, and he got 18% of the vote in 1992. Nothing he said made any sense, except he appealed to the same anger that Trump appeals to, but which became a lot more racialized after 2008.

Yeah my mom’s uncle voted for him because of NAFTA I believe. Stockdale at least wasn’t Pence though.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:14:25pm

re: #137 freetoken

The Republican candidate from WV will still be a Trumper regardless of who is nominated.

Oh absolutely. Just like Luther Strange’s positions weren’t any better than Moore’s.

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Patricia Kayden  May 8, 2018 • 6:15:44pm

re: #76 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That was hilarious. Great show.

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Patricia Kayden  May 8, 2018 • 6:16:22pm

re: #126 JordanRules

Something that many of us suspected. Imho, Trump didn’t win fair and square.

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 6:16:30pm
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Brian J.  May 8, 2018 • 6:16:33pm

re: #136 Cheechako

NOOOOO! I can’t speak Russian. (Beside that the State is broke, so who would want us?

Edit: See the Page I posted about Alaska finances.

The oil’s petering out, and it’s time for Alaska to start acting like every other state.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 8, 2018 • 6:16:40pm

re: #64 Barefoot Grin

I didn’t know that, but I love bacon grease dripped on salads and my wife.

LOL. I read that to my wife, and she cocked one eyebrow and said “okaaaaaaay… .”

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ObserverArt  May 8, 2018 • 6:16:44pm

re: #132 Blind Frog Belly White

Perot was flat out, bug fuck nuts, and he got 18% of the vote in 1992. Nothing he said made any sense, except he appealed to the same anger that Trump appeals to, but which became a lot more racialized after 2008.

He had awesome charts! The common man can understand charts. It’s right there in front of you.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 8, 2018 • 6:17:32pm

re: #130 ObserverArt

I haven’t seen anyone mention oleo in forever.

Here is a rockin’ hard blues tune called Oleo.

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It was important to distinguish “oleomargarine”—made from vegetable oil—from the original “margarine”, which was made from chopped cow’s udders and whatnot….

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Kragar  May 8, 2018 • 6:17:47pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 8, 2018 • 6:18:10pm

re: #118 Unshaken Defiance

Okay fellow foodies who enjoy bacon fat and real butter. Next mind blowing concept-MSG is not toxic. We can use our Maggi again.
fivethirtyeight.com

You know why Parmesan cheese is used to intensify flavors? It has a shit ton of free glutamate. Glutamate is a naturally occurring amino acid, of course is isn’t toxic.

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 6:18:15pm

re: #143 Brian J.

The oil’s petering out, and it’s time for Alaska to start acting like every other state.

Every other state my ass. There are hella other states in precarious situations too.

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Cheechako  May 8, 2018 • 6:19:57pm

re: #143 Brian J.

The oil’s petering out, and it’s time for Alaska to start acting like every other state.

Actually, much more oil has recently been discovered. We just prefer to pay the oil cartel to remove and sell it.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:19:57pm

re: #142 JordanRules

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Anymouse 🌹  May 8, 2018 • 6:20:30pm

re: #46 HappyWarrior

Given that Cruz has stood by Trump after Trump said his father killed JFK and attacked his wife’s looks. That’s that party in a nutshell.

It seems to be forgotten that while Trump’s attack on Heidi Cruz was horrible, a super PAC aligned with Cruz did it first with a billboard campaign in the Utah Primary attacking Melania Trump with nude photos. Trump first attacked Cruz over the adverts, which Cruz denied being involved in, then attacked Heidi Cruz.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 8, 2018 • 6:20:38pm
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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 6:21:31pm

Interesting…

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:21:43pm

re: #152 Anymouse 🌹

It seems to be forgotten that while Trump’s attack on Heidi Cruz was horrible, a super PAC aligned with Cruz did it first with a billboard campaign in the Utah Primary attacking Melania Trump with nude photos. Trump first attacked Cruz over the adverts, which Cruz denied being involved in, then attacked Heidi Cruz.

I do know that and that was fucked up. Cruz deserves Trump. However, Trump could have easily (I know please laugh) taken the high road by not responding in kind by going after Heidi.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 8, 2018 • 6:22:08pm

re: #148 Colère Tueur de Lapin

You know why Parmesan cheese is used to intensify flavors? It has a shit ton of free glutamate. Glutamate is a naturally occurring amino acid, of course is isn’t toxic.

I did not know that.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 8, 2018 • 6:22:31pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 8, 2018 • 6:22:51pm

re: #148 Colère Tueur de Lapin

You know why Parmesan cheese is used to intensify flavors? It has a shit ton of free glutamate. Glutamate is a naturally occurring amino acid, of course is isn’t toxic.

I had serious Chinese Restaurant Syndrome when I was a kid—I’d start to pass out from the fumes before the food even got there. The prevailing theory seems to be that it’s caused by an allergy to MSG. Fortunately it went away, like most of my allergies.

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Targetpractice  May 8, 2018 • 6:23:17pm

re: #157 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Anymouse 🌹  May 8, 2018 • 6:23:21pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

We’ll never know who’s father it was who died in Trump’s place in Vietnam (could have been mine), but regardless: Trump is a coward just like every other conservative chickenhawk.

I’d really be in favour of a law requiring politicians who lead the country into war have their children sign up for that war.

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Kragar  May 8, 2018 • 6:23:44pm
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Unshaken Defiance  May 8, 2018 • 6:24:45pm

re: #157 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 6:25:05pm

re: #155 HappyWarrior

I do know that and that was fucked up. Cruz deserves Trump. However, Trump could have easily (I know please laugh) taken the high road by not responding in kind by going after Heidi.

Also them going after him for that lines up with their evangelical base. Obviously that dynamic got janky in that election as ignorance, racism and sexism makes certain folks forgive a lot.

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Brian J.  May 8, 2018 • 6:25:13pm

re: #149 JordanRules

Every other state my ass. There are hella other states in precarious situations too.

None have holes as large as Alaska’s in their budgets. None are paying nearly half of their budgets from savings at a time when unemployment is low. Alaska’s just going to have to start implementing income and sales taxes, like everyone else, and stop expecting oil to pay for everything.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:26:16pm

re: #158 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I had serious Chinese Restaurant Syndrome when I was a kid—I’d start to pass out from the fumes before the food even got there. The prevailing theory seems to be that it’s caused by an allergy to MSG. Fortunately it went away, like most of my allergies.

Docs thought I had a peanut butter allergy at one time. I was 9 and still trick or treating obviously. Like hell they were going to take my Reeses or Snickers from me! I don’t have an allergy fortunately. In fact, I probably have the least severe allergies after my Dad in my immediate family. He’s allergic to horses though which is kind of ironic given that his parents raised horses when they retired.

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Targetpractice  May 8, 2018 • 6:26:21pm

re: #161 Kragar

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But only if you’re Republican. If you’re a Democrat, you have to go through a very long, humiliating process which is the financial equivalent of a cavity search by TSA in order to convince them that you’re totally on the level.

If you’re a Republican, you can have pallets of cash dropped off on your front doorstep, but so long as it doesn’t have a big banner saying “THIS IS A BRIBE!,” then it’s totally cool.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 8, 2018 • 6:27:02pm

re: #81 Brian J.

Merci. Now to see if we can get France to take us back…

Nebraska was also part of the Louisiana Purchase. Yay! We get to be part of France again.

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meteor  May 8, 2018 • 6:28:07pm
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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:28:27pm

re: #163 JordanRules

Also them going after him for that lines up with their evangelical base. Obviously that dynamic got janky in that election as ignorance, racism and sexism makes certain folks forgive a lot.

I really think the Fundies showed their true colors this past election. As I’ve said, I don’t have much use for the RCC on a lot of issues and yes I know their record with things like child abuse is deplorable but I also appreciate that individually Catholics tend to be much more accepting of immigrants and outsiders than Evangelicals do. Perhaps because many of them including in my own family remember the immigrant experiences of their parents and grandparents in the case of my mom and grandma who still go to SAturday mass.

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Charles Johnson  May 8, 2018 • 6:28:54pm
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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:29:18pm

re: #167 Anymouse 🌹

Nebraska was also part of the Louisiana Purchase. Yay! We get to be part of France again.

Commencez à brosser votre français, mon ami.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:29:48pm

re: #170 Charles Johnson

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It’s clear as day to me that this was just done to fuck Obama and Kerry.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 8, 2018 • 6:30:15pm

re: #170 Charles Johnson

Beacuse Obama.

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ObserverArt  May 8, 2018 • 6:30:36pm

re: #144 Anymouse 🌹

LOL. I read that to my wife, and she cocked one eyebrow and said “okaaaaaaay… .”

You realize cabbage cooked in bacon grease is a very popular eastern European dish (Polish, Slovak, etc.). And then there is Wilted Lettuce that uses heated bacon grease as a dressing. I believe that is attributed to Germans.

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Jay C  May 8, 2018 • 6:31:33pm

re: #166 Targetpractice

If you’re a Republican, you can have pallets of cash dropped off on your front doorstep, but so long as it doesn’t have a big banner saying “THIS IS A BRIBE!,” then it’s totally cool.

And even if it does, the reaction from the GOPer is more likely to be a screed about how Dems/liberals have no sense of humor…..

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:31:56pm

re: #174 ObserverArt

You realize cabbage cooked in bacon grease is a very popular eastern European dish (Polish, Slovak, etc.). And then there is Wilted Lettuce that uses heated bacon grease as a dressing. I believe that is attributed to Germans.

Dude I love our comfort food. Can’t wait to introduce my niece to halushki, pierogis, and kielbasa while she’s here.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 8, 2018 • 6:32:00pm

re: #172 HappyWarrior

It’s clear as day to me that this was just done to fuck Obama and Kerry.

Seriously, if you think Trump is even playing checkers by this point, let alone three-dimensional chess, you’re an idiot.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 8, 2018 • 6:32:14pm

re: #99 Barefoot Grin

My family, too, when I was a child. Mom used the old term “oleo.” (Disclosure: DW has to use a dairy-free/gluten-free substitute, but things like bacon grease for cooking are a-ok.)

I still use the term oleo (as do most people around here). Growing up we also used oleo because destitute. As soon as I was in the Navy and buying my own groceries, out the window with oleo. I much prefer butter.

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ipsos  May 8, 2018 • 6:32:27pm

Side note on West Virginia - for all the noise around Blankenship, it’s worth noting that there were a lot more Democrats taking primary ballots today than Republicans. 92k Dem votes so far in what wasn’t a very hotly-contested primary, versus 77k GOP votes in a race getting national attention.

I know, I know, a lot of WV voters are still registered Dem out of long habit but vote GOP these days. But still.

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Targetpractice  May 8, 2018 • 6:32:45pm

re: #175 Jay C

And even if it does, the reaction from the GOPer is more likely to be a screed about how Dems/liberals have no sense of humor…..

Oh a shrug of “They all do it, he’s just honest about it.”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 8, 2018 • 6:33:08pm

re: #167 Anymouse 🌹

Nebraska was also part of the Louisiana Purchase. Yay! We get to be part of France again.

Washington has lots of options to consider. We were claimed by Spain, Russia, Mexico, Great Britain, and the United States at various times.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:33:41pm

re: #177 Blind Frog Belly White

Seriously, if you think Trump is even playing checkers by this point, let alone three-dimensional chess, you’re an idiot.

He was asked how backing out would benefit the country, his response was that it would benefit the country. He doesn’t know shit about international relations and you know what, a lot of us don’t but most of us don’t fancy ourselves as knowing more than the experts and than run for and than get elected President. I’m totally expecting Trump if he visits Slovakia to tell the people there that his wife is from there and getting the old Slovak stink eye :).

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 6:34:03pm

re: #174 ObserverArt

You realize cabbage cooked in bacon grease is a very popular eastern European dish (Polish, Slovak, etc.). And then there is Wilted Lettuce that uses heated bacon grease as a dressing. I believe that is attributed to Germans.

Maybe not salad in the leafy sense but mmm mmm, German potato salad with bacon and bacon drippings is divine!

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dangerman  May 8, 2018 • 6:35:27pm

re: #57 Targetpractice

But remember, folks, it was Hillary that had to produce speech transcripts to show she wasn’t in the pocket of the banks.

//////////

Well these payments didn’t come from banks. So there // (libtard)

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Unshaken Defiance  May 8, 2018 • 6:35:29pm

re: #183 JordanRules

Maybe not salad in the leafy sense but mmm mmm, German potato salad with bacon and bacon drippings is divine!

Why not leafy?
Spinach Salad with Warm Bacon Dressing
Amazing flavor

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plansbandc  May 8, 2018 • 6:35:38pm

re: #50 JordanRules

And this is a perfect example that it is a waste of time to try to reach the economically anxious.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:35:49pm

re: #181 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Washington has lots of options to consider. We were claimed by Spain, Russia, Mexico, Great Britain, and the United States at various times.

We have the Brits and of course the various tribes. I’d rather be Powhatan.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:36:21pm

re: #185 Unshaken Defiance

Why not leafy?
Spinach Salad with Warm Bacon Dressing
Amazing flavor

No potatoes, no bueno :).

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 8, 2018 • 6:37:00pm

re: #183 JordanRules

Maybe not salad in the leafy sense but mmm mmm, German potato salad with bacon and bacon drippings is divine!

Cornbread made with bacon drippings. And not much sugar, and less flour and more cornmeal………..

Fuck. Now I’m salivating, and I know when I get home this is NOT EVEN REMOTELY what I’ll get for dinner.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 8, 2018 • 6:37:33pm

re: #185 Unshaken Defiance

Why not leafy?
Spinach Salad with Warm Bacon Dressing
Amazing flavor

Also good on dandelion greens.

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 6:37:57pm

re: #185 Unshaken Defiance

Why not leafy?
Spinach Salad with Warm Bacon Dressing
Amazing flavor

I was giving an additional salad that uses bacon drippings, adding that it may not be a salad to some because its not leafy. I adore spinach salad!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 8, 2018 • 6:38:40pm

re: #189 Blind Frog Belly White

Cornbread made with bacon drippings. And not much sugar, and less flour and more cornmeal………..

Fuck. Now I’m salivating, and I know when I get home this is NOT EVEN REMOTELY what I’ll get for dinner.

Why does all the cornbread mix you can get have so much sugar in it? That just ain’t right.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 8, 2018 • 6:39:16pm

re: #189 Blind Frog Belly White

Cornbread made with bacon drippings. And not much sugar, and less flour and more cornmeal………..

Fuck. Now I’m salivating, and I know when I get home this is NOT EVEN REMOTELY what I’ll get for dinner.

Damn you. Now I have a craving I’ll never find.

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 6:39:51pm

re: #187 HappyWarrior

We have the Brits and of course the various tribes. I’d rather be Powhatan.

Yeah for real. The OG Americans should be the only ones we give anything back to.

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Stanley Sea  May 8, 2018 • 6:39:51pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

Happy Birthday!

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 8, 2018 • 6:40:19pm

re: #192 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Why does all the cornbread mix you can get have so much sugar in it? That just ain’t right.

Because they think it’s supposed to be like a goddam muffin, or a goddam cake.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:40:40pm

re: #194 JordanRules

Yeah for real. The OG Americans should be the only ones we give anything back to.

Better food too. The only true Brit food I like is Bangers/Mash and Fish/Chips.

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teleskiguy  May 8, 2018 • 6:41:21pm

re: #195 Stanley Sea

This one was way better than the last one. I was alone last year. This year I was surrounded by friends. True story.

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 6:41:50pm

re: #189 Blind Frog Belly White

Cornbread made with bacon drippings. And not much sugar, and less flour and more cornmeal………..

Fuck. Now I’m salivating, and I know when I get home this is NOT EVEN REMOTELY what I’ll get for dinner.

Yes, yes, yes!!!! Not much sugar. Baked in cast iron that’s been seasoned over generations!!

I need to make more drippings.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:41:58pm

re: #198 teleskiguy

This one was way better than the last one. I was alone last year. This year I was surrounded by friends. True story.

Happy B-Day dude.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 8, 2018 • 6:42:01pm

re: #193 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Damn you. Now I have a craving I’ll never find.

And, while you’re mixing the batter, you put a Griswold #6 skillet in the 425 degree oven till hot, then toss in some bacon grease to grease it. It’ll smoke till you add the batter….

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BeachDem  May 8, 2018 • 6:43:35pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

I’m glad Kucinich lost. Good riddance. As you all know, a long time ago in a teenagerhood far far away, I was an admirer of his but speaking on behalf of Assad, going along with a lot of Trumpism, and becoming the worst of Ron Paul and Trump but on the left, I’m glad he’s done. In fact, I have less use for Kucinich than I do Sanders. I may not like Sanders but I haven’t seen him justify the Assad regime.

I’m glad he lost for those reasons, plus that he got whupped, even in his home county (also Nina’s home county) as Our Revolution’s candidate—suck it, Nina.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 8, 2018 • 6:44:30pm

re: #199 JordanRules

Yes, yes, yes!!!! Not much sugar. Baked in cast iron that’s been seasoned over generations!!

I need to make more drippings.

My Griswold #6 comes from my Grandmother, who was born in 1895.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:45:28pm

re: #202 BeachDem

I’m glad he lost for those reasons, plus that he got whupped, even in his home county (also Nina’s home county) as Our Revolution’s candidate—suck it, Nina.

Maybe Nina will get the clue she’s not a political oracle. But I doubt it, people like that tend to double down.

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 6:45:39pm

I imagine some of the forensic accounting specialist are having the time of their lives on this corruption puzzle.

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teleskiguy  May 8, 2018 • 6:46:20pm

This was my last tweet for the day on my birthday this year, at 8:38 a.m. I forgot about Twitter after that until this morning.

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ipsos  May 8, 2018 • 6:46:30pm

Anyone else play HQ trivia? They seem to be melting down under too much traffic tonight. They abandoned their 9 PM game after one question, tried again a couple of minutes ago and couldn’t get past two questions before giving up.

They need Charles!

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Anymouse 🌹  May 8, 2018 • 6:48:13pm

re: #157 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Wholly crap, the comments on that tweet from NBC are horrendous.

Conservatives have been training their voters to hate everyone not them my whole life, and they’re showing it in the comments.

It would seem I’m a better Christian than them, and I’m an atheist.

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ObserverArt  May 8, 2018 • 6:51:58pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

Happy Birthday

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Ace-o-aces  May 8, 2018 • 6:52:18pm
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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:52:22pm

re: #207 ipsos

Anyone else play HQ trivia? They seem to be melting down under too much traffic tonight. They abandoned their 9 PM game after one question, tried again a couple of minutes ago and couldn’t get past two questions before giving up.

They need Charles!

Yep. I’ve even won once before. $1.94. Frustrating.

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EPR-radar  May 8, 2018 • 6:53:10pm

re: #172 HappyWarrior

It’s clear as day to me that this was just done to fuck Obama and Kerry.

The other reason is that Trump wants to be able to start a war as needed to deal with domestic difficulties (Mueller investigation), and North Korea wasn’t working out for that.

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Barefoot Grin  May 8, 2018 • 6:53:30pm

re: #130 ObserverArt

I haven’t seen anyone mention oleo in forever.

Here is a rockin’ hard blues tune called Oleo.

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Video

Those white boys could boogie!

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:53:38pm

re: #212 EPR-radar

The other reason is that Trump wants to be able to start a war as needed to deal with domestic difficulties (Mueller investigation), and North Korea wasn’t working out for that.

Yep.

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BeachDem  May 8, 2018 • 6:53:38pm

re: #112 HappyWarrior

I dunno. We’ll see. He won’t be missed by me though.

They’ll go with a Tulsi/Nina ticket, lose spectacularly in every primary and scream, “RIGGED, NEO CORPORATIST ESTABLISHMENT SHILLS!!”

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 6:53:43pm
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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:54:26pm

re: #215 BeachDem

They’ll go with a Tulsi/Nina ticket, lose spectacularly in every primary and scream, “RIGGED, NEO CORPORATIST ESTABLISHMENT SHILLS!!”

Agh you now how I feel about Tulsi. How the hell she became a lefty hero amuses the crap out of me. She opposed Obama from the right on military issues!

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TedStriker  May 8, 2018 • 6:54:28pm

re: #156 Unshaken Defiance

I did not know that.

en.wikipedia.org

Natural occurrence
Glutamate itself is ubiquitous in biological life. It is found naturally in all living cells, primarily in the bound form as a constituent of proteins. Only a fraction of the glutamate in foods is in its “free” form, and only free glutamate can enhance the flavor of foods. Part of the flavor-enhancing effect of tomatoes, fermented soy products, yeast extracts, certain sharp cheeses, and fermented or hydrolyzed protein products (such as soy sauce and fermented bean paste) is due to the presence of free glutamate ions.[4][5]

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ipsos  May 8, 2018 • 6:54:52pm

re: #211 HappyWarrior

Yep. I’ve even won once before. $1.94. Frustrating.

Mrs. ipsos got to question 10 this afternoon and then I gave her the wrong answer to 11. Ooops.

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gocart mozart  May 8, 2018 • 6:54:52pm
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petesh  May 8, 2018 • 6:54:54pm

re: #177 Blind Frog Belly White

Seriously, if you think Trump is even playing checkers by this point, let alone three-dimensional chess, you’re an idiot.

OK, which of these is worse?
1. Trump abandoned the Iran deal because Obama did it.
2. Trump abandoned the Iran deal because Putin wanted it.

With Trump, worse always means true, right? I used to be with answer (1) because I thought (2) was just insane. But I am rapidly moving to (3) “Why not both?”

None of the Cohen-related stuff is surprising, but seeing (something damn close to) proof, that’s hard to believe. We should be so lucky! This guy is a wannabe mob boss who is so far over his head that I am also starting to visualize assassination by the Mob (the modern equivalent) as a possible Act 1 Closer. The Second Act is when we see how much Trump’s removal from the scene really matters.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:55:00pm

re: #216 JordanRules

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Is Nunes just a GOP hack or is there compromat on him too?

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:55:15pm

re: #219 ipsos

Mrs. ipsos got to question 10 this afternoon and then I gave her the wrong answer to 11. Ooops.

Damnit!

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 6:55:35pm

This story still isn’t even really breaking thru.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 8, 2018 • 6:55:47pm

re: #212 EPR-radar

The other reason is that Trump wants to be able to start a war as needed to deal with domestic difficulties (Mueller investigation), and North Korea wasn’t working out for that.

Contracting it out to Bibi. Israel and Iran start trading missiles and we are all in.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 6:57:21pm

re: #225 Unshaken Defiance

Contracting it out to Bibi. Israel and Iran start trading missiles and we are all in.

I hope Bibi is gone by the next Dem President. He treated Obama terribly due to his racism and love of right wing bs.

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 6:57:36pm

re: #222 HappyWarrior

Is Nunes just a GOP hack or is there compromat on him too?

I really can’t call it. Someone needs to do a deep dive investigative report on him.

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calochortus  May 8, 2018 • 6:58:04pm

I’m watching the CA gubernatorial “debate.” I find my self asking if they arranged the candidates in a short/tall/short/tall/short/tall order on purpose.
More seriously The two Repubs are jerks, and I’m not a big fan of Villaraigosa. I’ll probably end up voting for Newsom, but I find him hard to like (for no good reason.) I’d really like to get a sense of whether Chiang or Eastin have broad enough experience to be viable as candidates, but I don’t suppose the debate will help me much with that.

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BlueGrl21  May 8, 2018 • 6:58:39pm

re: #177 Blind Frog Belly White

Seriously, if you think Trump is even playing checkers by this point, let alone three-dimensional chess, you’re an idiot.

Uno. Against himself.

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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 6:58:59pm
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Anymouse 🌹  May 8, 2018 • 6:59:22pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

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Happy Birthday!
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JordanRules  May 8, 2018 • 7:00:14pm
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Brian J.  May 8, 2018 • 7:00:45pm

re: #202 BeachDem

I’m glad he lost for those reasons, plus that he got whupped, even in his home county (also Nina’s home county) as Our Revolution’s candidate—suck it, Nina.

OR candidates are not doing well in contested races. They sent Sue Spicer out to challenge Congressman Andre Carson in Indianapolis, and Spicer has lost 88 to 8 percent (!). Of four Cleveland-area State House candidates they endorsed, one is winning, one trails narrowly, and the other two are at 10% or less. Their one WV Senate candidate is losing as well.

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Stanley Sea  May 8, 2018 • 7:01:48pm

re: #205 JordanRules

I imagine some of the forensic accounting specialist are having the time of their lives on this corruption puzzle.

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I keep going back to Cohen was an employee of the trump org. He wasn’t just an outside atty.

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ObserverArt  May 8, 2018 • 7:01:49pm

Reminder.

Avenatti time on Lawrence O’Donnell coming up soon. Should be real interesting.

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Stanley Sea  May 8, 2018 • 7:02:52pm

re: #207 ipsos

Anyone else play HQ trivia? They seem to be melting down under too much traffic tonight. They abandoned their 9 PM game after one question, tried again a couple of minutes ago and couldn’t get past two questions before giving up.

They need Charles!

I gave up. Was doing well, then got booted. Meh

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dangerman  May 8, 2018 • 7:04:40pm

re: #205 JordanRules

I imagine some of the forensic accounting specialist are having the time of their lives on this corruption puzzle.

[Embedded content]

I am so high right now

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Brian J.  May 8, 2018 • 7:04:48pm

Not official yet, but Robert Pittenger is going to lose, down more than 800 votes with 3 precincts left.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 7:04:49pm

the latest:

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scottslemmons  May 8, 2018 • 7:05:08pm

re: #222 HappyWarrior

Is Nunes just a GOP hack or is there compromat on him too?

My suspicion is that there’s very little compromat on most Republicans. They’re doing this out of a combination of nihilism and reverse-patriotism. Probably a few are getting paid, too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 7:07:45pm
242
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 8, 2018 • 7:08:55pm

yeah…what they are saying^^

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Anymouse 🌹  May 8, 2018 • 7:09:25pm

re: #221 petesh

OK, which of these is worse?
1. Trump abandoned the Iran deal because Obama did it.
2. Trump abandoned the Iran deal because Putin wanted it.

With Trump, worse always means true, right? I used to be with answer (1) because I thought (2) was just insane. But I am rapidly moving to (3) “Why not both?”

None of the Cohen-related stuff is surprising, but seeing (something damn close to) proof, that’s hard to believe. We should be so lucky! This guy is a wannabe mob boss who is so far over his head that I am also starting to visualize assassination by the Mob (the modern equivalent) as a possible Act 1 Closer. The Second Act is when we see how much Trump’s removal from the scene really matters.

Both of them, Katie.

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EPR-radar  May 8, 2018 • 7:09:32pm

re: #240 scottslemmons

My suspicion is that there’s very little compromat on most Republicans. They’re doing this out of a combination of nihilism and reverse-patriotism. Probably a few are getting paid, too.

Selling out most Americans to benefit US plutocrats turns out to be indistinguishable from selling out most Americans to benefit Russian oligarchs.

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BeachDem  May 8, 2018 • 7:18:41pm

re: #138 HappyWarrior

Yeah my mom’s uncle voted for him because of NAFTA I believe. Stockdale at least wasn’t Pence though.

Now you’ve done it! Jim Stockdale not only wasn’t Pence, he was head and shoulders above most of the political riffraff of both his time and today. When the media made him into a joke, that was a turning point for me. He was a POW for 7-1/2 years, led the prisoner resistance in the Hanoi Hilton.

Tortured routinely and denied medical attention for the severely damaged leg he suffered during capture, Stockdale created and enforced a code of conduct for all prisoners which governed torture, secret communications, and behavior. In the summer of 1969, he was locked in leg irons in a bath stall and routinely tortured and beaten. When told by his captors that he was to be paraded in public, Stockdale slit his scalp with a razor to purposely disfigure himself so that his captors could not use him as propaganda. When they covered his head with a hat, he beat himself with a stool until his face was swollen beyond recognition. When Stockdale was discovered with information that could implicate his friends’ “black activities”, he slit his wrists so they could not torture him into confession

But because he couldn’t hear the debate questions (because they had fucked up his ears in the prison) it was all a big laugh riot.

I had read his and his wife’s book “In Love and War” well before Perot picked him, and I thought he was such an incredible person, it just made me sick to have him laughed at.

OK—stepping off my soapbox for now.

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HappyWarrior  May 8, 2018 • 7:21:27pm

re: #245 BeachDem

Now you’ve done it! Jim Stockdale not only wasn’t Pence, he was head and shoulders above most of the political riffraff of both his time and today. When the media made him into a joke, that was a turning point for me. He was a POW for 7-1/2 years, led the prisoner resistance in the Hanoi Hilton.

Tortured routinely and denied medical attention for the severely damaged leg he suffered during capture, Stockdale created and enforced a code of conduct for all prisoners which governed torture, secret communications, and behavior. In the summer of 1969, he was locked in leg irons in a bath stall and routinely tortured and beaten. When told by his captors that he was to be paraded in public, Stockdale slit his scalp with a razor to purposely disfigure himself so that his captors could not use him as propaganda. When they covered his head with a hat, he beat himself with a stool until his face was swollen beyond recognition. When Stockdale was discovered with information that could implicate his friends’ “black activities”, he slit his wrists so they could not torture him into confession

But because he couldn’t hear the debate questions (because they had fucked up his ears in the prison) it was all a big laugh riot.

I had read his and his wife’s book “In Love and War” well before Perot picked him, and I thought he was such an incredible person, it just made me sick to have him laughed at.

OK—stepping off my soapbox for now.

Right. Admirable guy for sure.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 8, 2018 • 7:23:23pm

re: #245 BeachDem

Now you’ve done it! Jim Stockdale not only wasn’t Pence, he was head and shoulders above most of the political riffraff of both his time and today. When the media made him into a joke, that was a turning point for me. He was a POW for 7-1/2 years, led the prisoner resistance in the Hanoi Hilton.

Tortured routinely and denied medical attention for the severely damaged leg he suffered during capture, Stockdale created and enforced a code of conduct for all prisoners which governed torture, secret communications, and behavior. In the summer of 1969, he was locked in leg irons in a bath stall and routinely tortured and beaten. When told by his captors that he was to be paraded in public, Stockdale slit his scalp with a razor to purposely disfigure himself so that his captors could not use him as propaganda. When they covered his head with a hat, he beat himself with a stool until his face was swollen beyond recognition. When Stockdale was discovered with information that could implicate his friends’ “black activities”, he slit his wrists so they could not torture him into confession

But because he couldn’t hear the debate questions (because they had fucked up his ears in the prison) it was all a big laugh riot.

I had read his and his wife’s book “In Love and War” well before Perot picked him, and I thought he was such an incredible person, it just made me sick to have him laughed at.

OK—stepping off my soapbox for now.

But how about that John McCain? Did you know he was a POW!!??

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teleskiguy  May 8, 2018 • 7:30:46pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

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BeachDem  May 8, 2018 • 7:32:37pm

re: #229 BlueGrl21

Uno. Against himself.

I’d say Connect Four, but there seem to be a whole lot more than 4 connections.
/

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BeachDem  May 8, 2018 • 7:35:40pm

re: #233 Brian J.

OR candidates are not doing well in contested races. They sent Sue Spicer out to challenge Congressman Andre Carson in Indianapolis, and Spicer has lost 88 to 8 percent (!). Of four Cleveland-area State House candidates they endorsed, one is winning, one trails narrowly, and the other two are at 10% or less. Their one WV Senate candidate is losing as well.

To quote Bridgegate Bridget, “Is it wrong that I’m smiling?” And again, Nina’s from Cleveland, so you’d think she’d have more influence with the home crowd. But…

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dangerman  May 8, 2018 • 7:53:31pm

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

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yeah…what they are saying^^

And then why would they knowingly agree to pay the money to EC and not Cohen’s “practice”? ( Yes I know the answer)


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