Rudy Giuliani “Resigns” From His Mortified Law Firm

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It’s almost comical how every single person who gets close to Donald Trump ends up destroying any reputation they might have had.

“We cannot speak for Mr. Giuliani with respect to what was intended by his remarks,” said a spokeswoman, Jill Perry. “Speaking for ourselves, we would not condone payments of the nature alleged to have been made or otherwise without the knowledge and direction of a client.”

The number of non-resignation resignations caused by the Trump Horror is unprecedented.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2018 • 12:00:43pm
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ObserverArt  May 10, 2018 • 12:01:03pm

You mean you can actually destroy your reputation that is already in the dumpster and smelling like three day old fish left out in the hot sun?

How low can you go???

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KGxvi  May 10, 2018 • 12:01:39pm
“Speaking for ourselves, we would not condone payments of the nature alleged to have been made or otherwise without the knowledge and direction of a client.”

Not said but clearly implied and heard by every lawyer everywhere: because it would result in all of us losing our licenses, and facing significant liability for breach of fiduciary duty.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 10, 2018 • 12:03:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2018 • 12:04:27pm
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KGxvi  May 10, 2018 • 12:04:58pm

re: #2 ObserverArt

You mean you can actually destroy your reputation that is already is in the dumpster and smelling like three day old fish left out in the hot sun?

How low can you go???

We need James Cameron to raise the bar…

southpark.cc.com

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b.d.  May 10, 2018 • 12:05:13pm

[trump] ONLY THE BEST PEOPLE [/trump]

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JordanRules  May 10, 2018 • 12:05:40pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2018 • 12:07:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2018 • 12:08:58pm
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JordanRules  May 10, 2018 • 12:10:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2018 • 12:16:35pm
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Bubblehead II  May 10, 2018 • 12:17:38pm

re: #2 ObserverArt

You mean you can actually destroy your reputation that is already in the dumpster and smelling like three day old fish left out in the hot sun?

How low can you go???

We don’t know yet. Once they hit bed rock, they break out the jackhammers.

Edit. WTF is with the typos today?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2018 • 12:18:52pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2018 • 12:22:03pm

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 12:23:50pm

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Protect the crown? Shouldn’t you be focused on guns? Oh wait, you’re not about guns. You’re about a far right agenda.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 12:25:29pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Another judicial hypocrite courtesy of the Federalist Society. Sigh and yeah Trump’s legacy will be in his judges. Some of whom will still be there when I’m in my 60’s.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2018 • 12:28:17pm

Liz is part of that hotshot “news” organization, OANN:

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 10, 2018 • 12:28:38pm

Dumbest thing on the internet today? So, conservatives will beat the shit out of them on the streets, they’ll get fired from their jobs and thrown out of the armed forces, and police will raid their establishments? Ok, I will register a pro forma protest if that happens.

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JordanRules  May 10, 2018 • 12:28:47pm
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Belafon  May 10, 2018 • 12:29:22pm

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Hillary would have nominated him, too.”

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Belafon  May 10, 2018 • 12:30:03pm

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

Liz is part of that hotshot “news” organization, OANN:

Hey, Liz, how long have Republicans kept an admitted assaulter in as president?

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plansbandc  May 10, 2018 • 12:33:19pm

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This guy is an absolute piece of shit.

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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 12:35:38pm

re: #11 JordanRules

The Senate is about to confirm Trump’s SIXTEENTH appeals court judge: Kurt Engelhardt, another staunch conservative, to the 5th Circuit.

Reshaping the courts will probably be Trump’s biggest legacy

this is undoubtedly true
still, i found some comfort in this article on electoral-vote yesterday
blue slip rule is dead

One area in which Trump has been very successful is appointing conservative judges, especially to the appeals courts. He has already gotten 15 of his nominations through the Senate, with more to come. Majority leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) has said he will keep the Senate in session after the election to approve more judges as a hedge against Democrats taking control of the upper chamber and blocking Trump’s appointments starting in January.

Of course, what is happening here is that Trump and his party are putting short term gain ahead of long-term pain. It is true that the conservatives Trump appoints will linger for a long time; three or four (or even five) decades in some cases (the most senior judge currently serving, Manuel Real, was appointed by LBJ in 1966). However, it is also the case that federal judges retire at the rate of about 45 per year. In recent years, Republican presidents have tended to favor fire-breathing conservatives (think: Neil Gorsuch), while Democrats have tended to favor moderate choices more likely to make it through the process (think: Merrick Garland). Not universally true, but generally true.

What this means is that the GOP doesn’t have as much space to move the judiciary rightward as the Democrats have to move it leftward. And perhaps as soon as 2020, the Democrats could have the trifecta the Republicans currently enjoy. When that comes to pass, get ready for a stream of young, left-leaning judges—30 or 40 or 50 a year—so pinko that they make Lenin look like Ronald Reagan. We shall see how, for example, Alabamians feel when key judicial matters are being decided by a 35-year-old black lesbian atheist from San Francisco

my bold

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 10, 2018 • 12:35:40pm
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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 12:35:46pm

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Dumbest thing on the internet today? So, conservatives will beat the shit out of them on the streets, they’ll get fired from their jobs and thrown out of the armed forces, and police will raid their establishments? Ok, I will register a pro forma protest if that happens.

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Gavin really is a whiny little shit. Go fuck off with your proud boy cult and leave the rest of us alone, you overgrown man baby.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 12:36:51pm

re: #23 plansbandc

This guy is an absolute piece of shit.

He is and “progressive hero” Chelsea Manning was hanging out with his douchebag cult.

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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 12:39:25pm

re: #25 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

He’s still being talked about in the mainstream media. We don’t really have liberal media, outside a few blogs. He’s a good example of how Democrats remove monsters, where Republicans would leave them in office or even vote for them. The American right is completely lost.

there are now two investigations going on into his behavior

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 12:40:05pm

re: #28 dangerman

there are now two investigations going on into his behavior

But but the media isn’t talking about him like Trump so therefore liberals condone what he did.

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Belafon  May 10, 2018 • 12:43:45pm

re: #29 HappyWarrior

But but the media isn’t talking about him like Trump so therefore liberals condone what he did.

Samantha Bee started her show by telling him off.

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Dave In Austin  May 10, 2018 • 12:44:07pm
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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 12:44:59pm

re: #29 HappyWarrior

But but the media isn’t talking about him like Trump so therefore liberals condone what he did.

im for waiting till the investigations are finished.
then we’ll know exactly what he did (or didnt) do

you know, kind of like with mueller

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 12:45:19pm

re: #30 Belafon

Samantha Bee started her show by telling him off.

Yep. And I’m glad she did.

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JordanRules  May 10, 2018 • 12:47:07pm

re: #24 dangerman

this is undoubtedly true
still, i found some comfort in this article on electoral-vote yesterday
blue slip rule is dead

my bold

Good find!

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Charles Johnson  May 10, 2018 • 12:48:11pm

Oh man.

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Belafon  May 10, 2018 • 12:50:28pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Oh man.

“It’s all fake!!!”
“Why can’t companies buy the government?!”

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 12:51:12pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Oh man.

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ObserverArt  May 10, 2018 • 12:51:22pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Oh man.

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Rachel Maddow mentioned that $600,000 last night on her show.

As an ATT customer I is pissed.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 10, 2018 • 12:51:42pm

re: #25 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Ronan Farrow’s article posted at 4 PM PDT. By 7 PM, Schneiderman was out of a job. He’s under criminal investigation for the charges.

What more is there to say?

“Hey, did you hear about Schneiderman?”

“Yeah. Ronan Farrow’s article is fucking devastating. I’m glad that asshole’s gone.”

“Yeah, fuck that guy.”

“Right?”

That’s really pretty much it.

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Renaissance_Man  May 10, 2018 • 12:53:17pm

re: #24 dangerman

this is undoubtedly true
still, i found some comfort in this article on electoral-vote yesterday
blue slip rule is dead

my bold

Their article presupposes the idea that there is ‘less room’ to move right because many judges so far have been relatively centrist, like there’s some limit on how far right there can be. But there isn’t any such limit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 10, 2018 • 12:54:15pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Let’s see a show of hands of all those who think Cohen did this without Trump’s knowledge.
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Anybody?

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Charles Johnson  May 10, 2018 • 12:54:41pm
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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 12:57:33pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

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Yeah I don’t believe that at all dude. Your network repeatedly belittles the patriotism of others. Btw maybe Gina can waterboard Sean to prove it’s not torture like Mr.Karate promised.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 10, 2018 • 12:58:38pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

I’ll be interested to see whether they cut their ties to the guy. Apologies, especially of the ‘I didn’t hear it!’ variety, are cheap.

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ObserverArt  May 10, 2018 • 12:59:00pm

re: #41 Blind Frog Belly White

Let’s see a show of hands of all those who think Cohen did this without Trump’s knowledge.
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Anybody?

I think the Cohen quotes that work best are…

In a Fox News interview last year, Mr. Cohen declared: “I will do anything to protect Mr. Trump.” He told Vanity Fair in September that “I’m the guy who would take a bullet for the president,” adding, “I’d never walk away.”

Sounds like a guy that would have let Trumpy know what was going on but act like he never told him.

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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 1:08:35pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Oh man.

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note the article says:

AT&T Inc. said it was contacted by Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team late last year for information about payments the company had made to President Donald Trump’s longtime personal lawyer for “insights” into the White House.

mueller is way way ahead on this

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 1:11:24pm

re: #46 dangerman

note the article says:

mueller is way way ahead on this

Yep. We couldn’t ask for a better investigator.

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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 1:12:16pm

re: #40 Renaissance_Man

Their article presupposes the idea that there is ‘less room’ to move right because many judges so far have been relatively centrist, like there’s some limit on how far right there can be. But there isn’t any such limit.

the way i read it is it’s more of a timing and numbers thing
trump got 15 or 17 so far since 1/17
if everything changes hands, with the historical retirement rates, the dems could do 30-50 a year

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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 1:13:32pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

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tweeting to the public, mr payne, is bullshit

you call him directly, on the telephone

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Belafon  May 10, 2018 • 1:15:42pm
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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 1:16:45pm

re: #46 dangerman

note the article says:

mueller is way way ahead on this

and thats why when morans like pence and other say “wrap it up”, its only because they are personally quaking.

in actuality they have absolutely no clue what mueller knows or what direction he’s going or whether he already sees the end in sight (or not)

their “wrap it up” is spoken without any context or justification at all

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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 1:18:11pm

re: #50 Belafon

Republicans didn’t even recognize Obama freed these 11 American hostages from North Korea: E. Lee, L. Ling, R. Park, A. Gomes, E. Yong Su Jun, M. Newman, J. Fowle, K. Bae, M. Miller, S. Suh, A. Pierre Martinez but watch them react with Trump. This administration is a total farce

so obama’s still ahead 11-3
trump must be fuming
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petesh  May 10, 2018 • 1:20:15pm

re: #52 dangerman

so obama’s still ahead 11-3
trump must be fuming
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I don’t think you need even half of a sarc tag there.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 10, 2018 • 1:20:18pm

re: #45 ObserverArt

I think the Cohen quotes that work best are…

Sounds like a guy that would have let Trumpy know what was going on but act like he never told him.

David Frum was saying last night that Trump hates people making money off him without him getting a cut, and that in the mob, guys like Cohen are supposed to take their cut and then pass the bulk of it up to their boss. “Kicking up” is what he called it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 10, 2018 • 1:21:10pm

re: #50 Belafon

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Yeah, but Obama never freed those two guys captured after he left office!
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meteor  May 10, 2018 • 1:21:53pm
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Mike Lamb  May 10, 2018 • 1:21:57pm

re: #52 dangerman

so obama’s still ahead 11-3
trump must be fuming
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Trump is going to send some folks over there to be taken into custody just to close the gap.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2018 • 1:22:12pm
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Belafon  May 10, 2018 • 1:25:35pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

But Conner eventually learns her lesson after she actually gets to know her neighbors personally.

“She wanted to get a comeuppance for her own bias,” Dave Caplan, the show’s co-executive producer, says in a video teasing the episode.

“Once she gets to know them, she realizes there are probably more similarities than differences,” he said.

Caplan says the episode was Barr’s idea, and that the show’s writers were onboard almost immediately after she pitched it.

Barr, meanwhile, says she thought it’d be “really relevant” to do a show about “immigrants and prejudice.”

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Belafon  May 10, 2018 • 1:26:35pm

Maybe Roseanne can do a show about black football players kneeling, to get around the ABC executive’s anxiety.

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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 1:29:32pm

re: #54 Blind Frog Belly White

David Frum was saying last night that Trump hates people making money off him without him getting a cut, and that in the mob, guys like Cohen are supposed to take their cut and then pass the bulk of it up to their boss. “Kicking up” is what he called it.

thats why the disbursements out of EC, LLC will be telling

how did cohen take the money out and where did it go?

and just to be boring, if/how was all this reported on any tax returns

cohen shoulda learned from al capone
tax fraud is a big effing deal

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jaunte  May 10, 2018 • 1:29:39pm

I ignored Roseanne the first time around, and it looks like everyone will have to go through a second innings of ignoring her before she’s done.

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William Lewis  May 10, 2018 • 1:30:32pm

So Anonymouse is always complaining that “Christians” don’t say enough against the Fundies sort of like moderate Muslims don’t say enough against ISIS.

Well here’s one coming up on Pentacost. I know it won’t be acceptable to him because it never can be. That’s ok, I wanted the rest of you to be aware of the Reclaiming Jesus moment on May 24. You can find info here if you want to: sojo.net

Some of us are out in the public square trying to do what is right. Come join us!

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TedStriker  May 10, 2018 • 1:32:51pm

re: #59 Belafon

This is why I implored people that liked Roseanne the first time around to push through the pre-relaunch “OMFG THE CONNORS ARE TRUMP VOTERS!!!11TY” hype; the show has traditionally done social commentary very well and that seems to be holding up for the continuation.

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Belafon  May 10, 2018 • 1:32:52pm

re: #62 jaunte

I ignored Roseanne the first time around, and it looks like everyone will have to go through a second innings of ignoring her before she’s done.

Read my above, her episode is about dealing with misconceptions. I don’t watch much of the show (I’m not into comedies), but she did do an episode with her grandson who likes to wear women’s clothes, and she was very supportive of him, even going to his new school to make sure there wouldn’t be any trouble.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 1:35:08pm

re: #63 William Lewis

So Anonymously is always complaining that “Christians” don’t say enough against the Fundies sort of like moderate Muslims don’t say enough against ISIS.

Well here’s one coming up on Pentacost. I know it won’t be acceptable to him because it never can be. That’s ok, I wanted the rest of you to be aware of the Reclaiming Jesus moment on May 24. You can find info here if you want to: sojo.net

Some of us are out in the public square trying to do what is right. Come join us!

Thanks. I’m not religious at all but I do appreciate people like yourself.

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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 1:39:12pm

re: #61 dangerman

thats why the disbursements out of EC, LLC will be telling

how did cohen take the money out and where did it go?

and just to be boring, if/how was all this reported on any tax returns

cohen shoulda learned from al capone
tax fraud is a big effing deal

futher - it just occurred (to me, anyway) that EC, LLC is a delaware llc.
cohen operates in New york.
EC should be registered and pay taxes to NYS and probably NYC

according to the NYS division of corporations, Essential Consultants LLC was registered on 5/2/18. a bit late if it’s the same entity

could be a coincidence
could be someone else entirely
could be someone grabbing the name

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2018 • 1:39:18pm
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JordanRules  May 10, 2018 • 1:41:50pm

re: #64 TedStriker

This is why I implored people that liked Roseanne the first time around to push through the pre-relaunch “OMFG THE CONNORS ARE TRUMP VOTERS!!!11TY” hype; the show has traditionally done social commentary very well.

I don’t support certain folks for less than she’s done. No way I’m supporting her. Her rhetoric is dangerous. Pizzagate, Hitler cosplay etc…nah I’m good. And she’s essentially the showrunner, not just an actress.

And I watched and enjoyed the show the first time around.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 10, 2018 • 1:43:22pm

“I’d like to thank the remaining members of the Symbionese Liberation Army for taking such excellent care of our daughter Patty.”

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 1:49:22pm

re: #70 Blind Frog Belly White

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“I’d like to thank the remaining members of the Symbionese Liberation Army for taking such excellent care of our daughter Patty.”

I’m sure the families just love hearing Trump praise their kidnapper.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 10, 2018 • 1:49:47pm

re: #63 William Lewis

So Anonymouse is always complaining that “Christians” don’t say enough against the Fundies sort of like moderate Muslims don’t say enough against ISIS.

Well here’s one coming up on Pentacost. I know it won’t be acceptable to him because it never can be. That’s ok, I wanted the rest of you to be aware of the Reclaiming Jesus moment on May 24. You can find info here if you want to: sojo.net

Some of us are out in the public square trying to do what is right. Come join us!

And again, I have to explain the difference between “Christians” and “Christian organisations.”

I have not complained individual or groups of Christians don’t hold Fundamentalist churches to account.

I have complained that church organisations don’t do it. No church organisation, such as the United Methodists, the Episcopal Church, the Roman Catholic Church, &c ever calls out grifters or hate monger churches.

It is nice Sojourners Magazine is organizing this event. They are not a church.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 10, 2018 • 1:50:50pm
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JordanRules  May 10, 2018 • 1:53:46pm

re: #70 Blind Frog Belly White

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“I’d like to thank the remaining members of the Symbionese Liberation Army for taking such excellent care of our daughter Patty.”

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Anymouse 🌹  May 10, 2018 • 1:54:11pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

In the real world, the police send a SWAT team and the Muslim family is killed, because Rosanne is afraid of people different than her.

I’ll pass.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 10, 2018 • 1:54:33pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I hope Democrats remember when they return to power that blue slips are dead, because Republicans will angrily DEMAND that their blue slips be respected.

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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 1:54:43pm

re: #71 HappyWarrior

I’m sure the families just love hearing Trump praise their kidnapper.

and excuse me if im out of line, why are they “incredible” people?

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 1:55:02pm

re: #74 JordanRules

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Chris, you’ve been around the block a few times by now dude, you know they’re a bunch of double standard assholes and we know Trump is going to speak highly of Kim Jong-Un’s father and grandfather when they meet in person.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 1:56:01pm

re: #77 dangerman

and excuse me if im out of line, why are they “incredible” people?

I do think it does take some incredible mental and physical fortitude to survive a North Korean concentration camp That said, it’s probably just Trump and his limited ability to use adjectives.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 1:56:21pm

re: #76 Big Beautiful Door

I hope Democrats remember when they return to power that blue slips are dead, because Republicans will angrily DEMAND that their blue slips be respected.

Yep.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 10, 2018 • 1:56:30pm

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Dumbest thing on the internet today? So, conservatives will beat the shit out of them on the streets, they’ll get fired from their jobs and thrown out of the armed forces, and police will raid their establishments? Ok, I will register a pro forma protest if that happens.

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Snowflake. Of course being openly gay isn’t the same as being a racist misogynist.

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Belafon  May 10, 2018 • 1:56:53pm

re: #75 Anymouse 🌹

In the real world, the police send a SWAT team and the Muslim family is killed, because Rosanne is afraid of people different than her.

I’ll pass.

Also in the real world, the people that we would like to not do that are the people that more likely to watch Roseanne.

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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 1:57:29pm

re: #76 Big Beautiful Door

I hope Democrats remember when they return to power that blue slips are dead, because Republicans will angrily DEMAND that their blue slips be respected.

i can see that
we didnt kill the tradition or change any rule
we just put it on hold (ignored it) for a while

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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 1:58:20pm

re: #79 HappyWarrior

I do think it does take some incredible mental and physical fortitude to survive a North Korean concentration camp That said, it’s probably just Trump and his limited ability to use adjectives.

that’s where i was going
it’s like he has a ten word vocabulary

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Anymouse 🌹  May 10, 2018 • 1:58:50pm

re: #82 Belafon

Also in the real world, the people that we would like to not do that are the people that more likely to watch Roseanne.

Will they listen to what an actress has to say, though? They also listen to FOX.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 1:59:14pm

If Ginsburg or any of the liberal bloc on the court heaven forbid pass away in an election year with a Republican President. Time to pull the McConnell treatment of Garland as a weapon. I don’t care if the judge picked is a decent person or not. McConnell showed he wants a politicized Supreme Court, he’ll get one.

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JordanRules  May 10, 2018 • 1:59:47pm

re: #82 Belafon

Also in the real world, the people that we would like to not do that are the people that more likely to watch Roseanne.

Any white actress can do it. It doesn’t have to be her.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 10, 2018 • 2:01:09pm

re: #41 Blind Frog Belly White

Let’s see a show of hands of all those who think Cohen did this without Trump’s knowledge.
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Anybody?

It is conceivable that Trump gave Cohen carte blanche to silence all of his mistresses and sexual assault victims, but I don’t really think so.

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Belafon  May 10, 2018 • 2:01:18pm

re: #85 Anymouse 🌹

Will they listen to what an actress has to say, though? They also listen to FOX.

Hard to say. But there’s a far greater change of it getting through if it gets slipped in this way.

I have no illusions about some of my neighbors. But I also know that plenty of them will be far more receptive to an older white comedienne acting like them than a younger white guy who gives off liberal vibes.

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Belafon  May 10, 2018 • 2:01:58pm

re: #87 JordanRules

Any white actress can do it. It doesn’t have to be her.

Which white actress on TV are you thinking of?

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JordanRules  May 10, 2018 • 2:03:30pm

re: #90 Belafon

Which white actress on TV are you thinking of?

I don’t know.

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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 2:04:08pm

re: #88 Big Beautiful Door

It is conceivable that Trump gave Cohen carte blanche to silence all of his mistresses and sexual assault victims, but I don’t really think so.

“i dont want to know the details” still ties him to it

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Amalthea's Shadow  May 10, 2018 • 2:04:27pm

I wanted to check in and say hello to everyone. I haven’t been able to even read much online, much less be able to like anyone’s comments or try to write anything myself. I’m so far behind on the political news department that I know that I’ll never catch up.
My sister in law died three weeks ago of pancreatic cancer. Less than three months passed between the diagnosis to burial. We are left with dealing with a hoarders home. Between the horror at the swiftness of the deterioration factor, to the inevitable sorrow and grief, and now all the physical work we’re putting in to cleaning out a possession filled to the brim house, and a new puppy in the house, I’m in exhaustion mode.
Oh, a new puppy I said?

Turn up the volume…..she sounds like an alien character out of Star Wars.

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wrenchwench  May 10, 2018 • 2:05:20pm

re: #88 Big Beautiful Door

It is conceivable that Trump gave Cohen carte blanche to silence all of his mistresses and sexual assault victims, but I don’t really think so.

Don’t say ‘conceivable’. Actually, that’s a thought that deserves inclusion.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 2:07:00pm

re: #84 dangerman

that’s where i was going
it’s like he has a ten word vocabulary

Yeah it astounds me how bad his vocab is.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 10, 2018 • 2:07:09pm

re: #93 Amalthea’s Shadow

Sorry about your SIL - pancreatic cancer is a bitch - doesn’t manifest until way late, and there’s not much in the way of effective treatment.

But… PUPPY!!! Cocker Spaniel?

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Single-handed sailor  May 10, 2018 • 2:07:33pm

Rick and Morty is getting 70 new episodes

I have a good feeling about this, Morty.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 10, 2018 • 2:08:09pm

re: #95 HappyWarrior

Yeah it astounds me how bad his vocab is.

Alec Baldwin’s take on him is he’s always reaching for the best adjective and failing to find it.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 2:09:09pm

re: #98 Blind Frog Belly White

Alec Baldwin’s take on him is he’s always reaching for the best adjective and failing to find it.

That’s why it’s a good impression.

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MsJ  May 10, 2018 • 2:11:45pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Oh man.

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Is anyone surprised by this? So far a couple of them changed the amount they gave Cohen. I’ll bet every one does. And there are apparently two more companies that have him $$ that have yet to be named.

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plansbandc  May 10, 2018 • 2:13:14pm

I have zero respect for anyone who is a part of Roseanne’s show.

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JordanRules  May 10, 2018 • 2:13:46pm

Roseanne on TV versus Roseanne in real life.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 10, 2018 • 2:14:17pm

re: #93 Amalthea’s Shadow

My sympathy to you and your family.

Three cousins of mine — none related to each other — have been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer in the past year. I wonder if it’s becoming more prevalent.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 2:15:39pm

re: #102 JordanRules

Roseanne on TV versus Roseanne in real life.

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Which is why Shapiro’s “defense” that the Starbucks manager was a “woke feminist” had no muster with me. Nothing wrong with being a feminist mind you but being a feminist doesn’t mean you’re free of racial prejudice.

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Amalthea's Shadow  May 10, 2018 • 2:17:49pm

re: #96 Blind Frog Belly White

Yes, pancreatic cancer has made in-runs into his family previously. This is not the first family death attributed to this disease. Being familiar with it doesn’t change one’s emotional responses though.
And yes, he and I are Cocker Spaniel people. He had an aging one when we met, we had to put our second one to sleep a year and a half ago, and then we put a deposit down with a breeder after Christmas. Miss Ziba is definitely a defiant Cocker!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2018 • 2:17:50pm

re: #93 Amalthea’s Shadow

{{{{AS}}}}

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 2:19:39pm

I don’t want to sound like OMG I’M COLORBLIND or I DON’T SEE COLOR but I genuinely do try to treat everyone fairly regardless of their skin color or background. If you have an accent, I’m if anything going to be curious where you’re from. I had to be a witness to a will signing recently by one of our other partners. The lady and her parents had Spanish accents but were more European looking so I was curious where she was from, Argentina. Ended up having a good talk about Argentine steaks but she said she was a vegetarian ironically enough. I really do like meeting people from places I’ve only ever read about. You don’t need to be quote colorblind, you just need to treat people good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2018 • 2:23:36pm
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JordanRules  May 10, 2018 • 2:26:49pm

She should not be on TV. We say that about folks all the time here who shouldn’t get a platform.

Roseanne Barr’s Bizarre Evolution From National Comic Sensation to Racist Twitter Troll

alternet.org

Barr’s most prominent professional gig currently is as a judge on NBC’s hit-show, Last Comic Standing. During her TV appearances she exhibits none of the mercurial behavior and scatological insults that grace her Twitter feed. She apparently understands quite well where boundaries are in her public persona. But when it comes to social media, she flings off the mask and exposes her hateful, misanthropic personality.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 10, 2018 • 2:27:31pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

I don’t want to sound like OMG I’M COLORBLIND or I DON’T SEE COLOR but I genuinely do try to treat everyone fairly regardless of their skin color or background. If you have an accent, I’m if anything going to be curious where you’re from. I had to be a witness to a will signing recently by one of our other partners. The lady and her parents had Spanish accents but were more European looking so I was curious where she was from, Argentina. Ended up having a good talk about Argentine steaks but she said she was a vegetarian ironically enough. I really do like meeting people from places I’ve only ever read about. You don’t need to be quote colorblind, you just need to treat people good.

As Whitey McWhiteguy, I have no direct experience, but I suspect that POCs may find people who claim not to see color, or who are ‘the least racist person you’ll ever meet’ may be more problematic than outright honest racists. Feelings are what they are. The key is whether you let them color (haha) your thinking and your actions.

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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 2:28:59pm

re: #98 Blind Frog Belly White

Alec Baldwin’s take on him is he’s always reaching for the best adjective and failing to find it.

to me it seems like hes always reaching for words he knows he doesnt know and then covers by using one of his 10 go-to words

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Single-handed sailor  May 10, 2018 • 2:29:59pm

Bangabandhu launch coverage has gone live.

Bangabandhu Satellite-1

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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 2:30:33pm

re: #100 MsJ

Is anyone surprised by this? So far a couple of them changed the amount they gave Cohen. I’ll bet every one does. And there are apparently two more companies that have him $$ that have yet to be named.

i think avenatti was careful with the drip drip drip

he said things like xx gave / paid cohen y$

i dont think he ever said xx only gave cohen y$

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 2:31:01pm

re: #110 Blind Frog Belly White

As Whitey McWhiteguy, I have no direct experience, but I suspect that POCs may find people who claim not to see color, or who are ‘the least racist person you’ll ever meet’ may be more problematic than outright honest racists. Feelings are what they are. The key is whether you let them color (haha) your thinking and your actions.

Yeah I imagine so too. But you’re right. I know my grandfather had his racial prejudices but he was never nasty to PoC and in fact I know he liked getting toys for the boys of some the black store employees he met. I think they reminded him of himself at that ah as a young father with maybe not the best paying job but doing what they could for their family.

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goddamnedfrank  May 10, 2018 • 2:31:15pm

re: #64 TedStriker

This is why I implored people that liked Roseanne the first time around to push through the pre-relaunch “OMFG THE CONNORS ARE TRUMP VOTERS!!!11TY” hype; the show has traditionally done social commentary very well and that seems to be holding up for the continuation.

The social commentary being offered is coming from an incredibly privileged point of view which presents the cohesiveness of white families as sacrosanct and far more important than combatting the real harm being inflicted by the State (on behalf of revanchist whites) upon minority communities. The victims are on display as abstract elements designed to humanize their real life abusers, and that is fucking disgusting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2018 • 2:31:58pm
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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 2:32:24pm

re: #103 Hecuba’s daughter

My sympathy to you and your family.

Three cousins of mine — none related to each other — have been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer in the past year. I wonder if it’s becoming more prevalent.

Why Pancreatic Cancer Is on the Rise

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 10, 2018 • 2:33:27pm

re: #111 dangerman

to me it seems like hes always reaching for words he knows he doesnt know and then covers by using one of his 10 go-to words

Perzackly.

I wonder if he used to know more words, or if he was always like this?

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 2:33:44pm

I also get people with accents don’t like being asked where they’re from but it’s really how I try to make small talk with anyone accent or not.

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freetoken  May 10, 2018 • 2:34:27pm

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

theHill is often pushed on the Facebook news streams, but I will repeat what I mentioned the other day - Facebook’s “news feed” is fed to you how the Facebook algorithms determine you want to see the universe.

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JordanRules  May 10, 2018 • 2:36:14pm
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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 2:36:40pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

I don’t want to sound like OMG I’M COLORBLIND or I DON’T SEE COLOR but I genuinely do try to treat everyone fairly regardless of their skin color or background. If you have an accent, I’m if anything going to be curious where you’re from. I had to be a witness to a will signing recently by one of our other partners. The lady and her parents had Spanish accents but were more European looking so I was curious where she was from, Argentina. Ended up having a good talk about Argentine steaks but she said she was a vegetarian ironically enough. I really do like meeting people from places I’ve only ever read about. You don’t need to be quote colorblind, you just need to treat people good.

one of mrs dm’s great nurses in denver sounded “moose and squirrel” to me. very knowledgable, personable, thorough. i was curious where she came from and after a week i felt comfortable enough to ask. turns out it was hungary.

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freetoken  May 10, 2018 • 2:38:05pm

Here’s my current “trending” news list on Facebook:

There are a couple of links to theHill, but it is usual that I click on a link to that website on a daily basis.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 2:38:19pm

re: #121 JordanRules

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Between this, Kamala’s sponsoring of DREAM, & her handling of Gina Whatshername, I’m leaning towards support for a Harris candidacy. She’s a leader.

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MsJ  May 10, 2018 • 2:38:32pm

re: #93 Amalthea’s Shadow

I’m very sorry about your SIL! And the resulting girder situation.

Your baby is adorable!! Is he a cocker?

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 2:39:03pm

Booker is right about expunging the record too. That’s a big one for me.

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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 2:41:14pm

re: #118 Blind Frog Belly White

Perzackly.

I wonder if he used to know more words, or if he was always like this?

hmmm

dementia or moran?

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 10, 2018 • 2:41:39pm

re: #127 dangerman

hmmm

dementia or moran?

Yes.

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Single-handed sailor  May 10, 2018 • 2:41:46pm

SpaceX is going to land the first stage on the drone ship in the rain. This should be interesting.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 10, 2018 • 2:42:36pm

re: #119 HappyWarrior

I also get people with accents don’t like being asked where they’re from but it’s really how I try to make small talk with anyone accent or not.

I remember a discussion about this from years ago, between a white guy and an Asian woman, both friends of mine. His position was that, as someone from NYC, it’s common to ask people where their family is from, or what their background, and people shouldn’t get offended by it. Her position was that it implied non-American-ness.

Mind you, she was Japanese American, and of an age that her parents might have been interned, if they were here then. That might color (again, haha) her thinking, given that we as a country basically TOLD THEM they were less American because of their origin.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 10, 2018 • 2:42:43pm

re: #124 HappyWarrior

Between this, Kamala’s sponsoring of DREAM, & her handling of Gina Whatshername, I’m leaning towards support for a Harris candidacy. She’s a leader.

I like Corey Booker too. We don’t need an old white guy nominee

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 10, 2018 • 2:43:20pm

re: #127 dangerman

hmmm

dementia or moran?

Not mutually exclusive. Being a moron will not prevent dementia.

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Bubblehead II  May 10, 2018 • 2:43:30pm

T-4 4 minutes till launch.

Bangabandhu Satellite-1

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 2:43:45pm

re: #130 Blind Frog Belly White

I remember a discussion about this from years ago, between a white guy and an Asian woman, both friends of mine. His position was that, as someone from NYC, it’s common to ask people where their family is from, or what their background, and people shouldn’t get offended by it. Her position was that it implied non-American-ness.

Mind you, she was Japanese American, and of an age that her parents might have been interned, if they were here then. That might color (again, haha) her thinking, given that we as a country basically TOLD THEM they were less American because of their origin.

They’re both right.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 2:44:46pm

re: #131 Big Beautiful Door

I like Corey Booker too. We don’t need an old white guy nominee

I do too. I like that Corey has executive experience too as a mayor. And you’re right we don’t need an old white guy.

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JordanRules  May 10, 2018 • 2:46:10pm
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Bubblehead II  May 10, 2018 • 2:46:23pm
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Single-handed sailor  May 10, 2018 • 2:47:03pm

Launch abort.

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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 2:47:35pm

so trump yelled at his cabinet last week

Mr. Trump’s anger toward Ms. Nielsen at the cabinet meeting was part of a lengthy tirade in which the president railed at his entire cabinet about what he said was their lack of progress toward sealing the country’s borders against illegal immigrants, according to one person who was present at the meeting

i wonder how much carson, zinke, pruitt, mcmahon (remember her?), perdue, ross, devos, perry, mnuchin, chao, etc have to do with “sealing the borders”

while he apparently was targeting DHS Nielsen, what great leadership this shows - doing it in front of everybody

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JordanRules  May 10, 2018 • 2:48:15pm

Sounds like a lovely crowd.//

Dumbasses don’t even try anymore. They should just start chanting ooga booga.

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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 2:48:32pm

re: #132 Blind Frog Belly White

Not mutually exclusive. Being a moron will not prevent dementia.

i was being charitable

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Bubblehead II  May 10, 2018 • 2:48:32pm

re: #138 Single-handed sailor

Launch abort.

Damn.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 10, 2018 • 2:48:51pm

I think if I’m Iran, I make it clear that the US has no opinion worth listening to on this, and that future inspections are contingent on whether the countries remaining in the deal live up to their obligations. Trump has given them the opportunity to act like the adult, contrasted with his toddler.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 10, 2018 • 2:49:00pm

Oh god, not another fucking Trump rally.

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Bubblehead II  May 10, 2018 • 2:50:49pm

Countdown clock set back to T -15 awaiting word from launch control.

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Ace Rothstein  May 10, 2018 • 2:51:33pm

You fucking Trunts.

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Mike Lamb  May 10, 2018 • 2:52:34pm

re: #144 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh god, not another fucking Trump rally.

Someone post the tweet where dipshit is complaining about Obama campaigning all the time on the taxpayer’s dime…

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 10, 2018 • 2:53:52pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 10, 2018 • 2:54:45pm
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KGxvi  May 10, 2018 • 2:55:09pm

re: #136 JordanRules

Walmart is a multi-national business that has almost 7,000 stores outside the US. My guess is that this acquisition was going to happen regardless of the tax cut. The tax cut just made it easier.

I’m also not fundamentally opposed to multi-national businesses pursuing business opportunities outside the US.

The problem seems to be that blanket tax cuts don’t actually lead businesses to reinvest in the US. This is probably especially true in retail, where brick and mortar stores are losing ground to digital shopping (Amazon is doing to Walmart what Walmart did to the “mom n pop” shops), and the smart investments for retailers is to shift to online markets in the US (I recently noticed when going to the store that they had signs up about shopping online with delivery in less than two hours).

Tying tax breaks to hiring and increased wages for non-exempt (hourly) employees might cause these businesses to actually create jobs. Then again, if AI is 10-15 years away from taking more than half the jobs in America, this is all a moot point, because we are going to have to figure out what a post labor economy looks like.

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JordanRules  May 10, 2018 • 2:55:28pm
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Ace Rothstein  May 10, 2018 • 2:56:03pm

re: #143 Blind Frog Belly White

Look, let’s be honest here. The United States has a lot of responsibility for why thing are fucked up over there starting with the coup in 1953, financing both sides when Iraq and Iran fought each other in the 80’s and two million died, Iran-Contra, and a whole lot else. If that makes me un-American for knowing a little history, so be it. I guarantee you Trump thinks they’re Arabs.

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KGxvi  May 10, 2018 • 2:58:06pm

re: #139 dangerman

so trump yelled at his cabinet last week

i wonder how much carson, zinke, pruitt, mcmahon (remember her?), perdue, ross, devos, perry, mnuchin, chao, etc have to do with “sealing the borders”

while he apparently was targeting DHS Nielsen, what great leadership this shows - doing it in front of everybody

If Pence wasn’t such a coward - as much of today’s news has made clear - he’d be talking with every member of the cabinet about the 25th Amendment option. But he is a fucking coward who sold his soul to Trump… I wonder what 30 pieces of silver will get you these days.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 10, 2018 • 2:58:14pm

re: #152 Ace Rothstein

Look, let’s be honest here. The United States has a lot of responsibility for why thing are fucked up over there starting with the coup in 1953, financing both sides when Iraq and Iran fought each other in the 80’s and two million died, Iran-Contra, and a whole lot else. If that makes me un-American for knowing a little history, so be it. I guarantee you Trump thinks they’re Arabs.

“Why do they dwell on the past?” say people who still fly the Confederate flag….

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Jebediah, RBG  May 10, 2018 • 2:59:40pm

re: #93 Amalthea’s Shadow

So sorry for your loss and the brutality of it, and for the Herculean task you have in frony of you. (And congratulations on the new puppy!)

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KGxvi  May 10, 2018 • 2:59:50pm

re: #154 Blind Frog Belly White

“Why do they dwell on the past?” say people who still fly the Confederate flag….

At least 1953 is still within living memory, it’s becoming the fringe of living memory, but it’s there.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 2:59:52pm

re: #154 Blind Frog Belly White

“Why do they dwell on the past?” say people who still fly the Confederate flag….

Yep or think the Crusades were great or the 1950’s were our perfect period as a nation.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 10, 2018 • 3:00:23pm

re: #153 KGxvi

If Pence wasn’t such a coward - as much of today’s news has made clear - he’d be talking with every member of the cabinet about the 25th Amendment option. But he is a fucking coward who sold his soul to Trump… I wonder what 30 pieces of silver will get you these days.

Have you read George Will today? Cripes, he wrote about Pence as if Rick Wilson was whispering in his ear.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 3:00:40pm

re: #156 KGxvi

At least 1953 is still within living memory, it’s becoming the fringe of living memory, but it’s there.

Not just 1953 but the aftermath of the Shah’s rule until the Revolution.

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jaunte  May 10, 2018 • 3:01:15pm

re: #140 JordanRules

Sounds like a lovely crowd.//

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Dumbasses don’t even try anymore. They should just start chanting ooga booga.

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KGxvi  May 10, 2018 • 3:01:34pm

re: #158 Blind Frog Belly White

Have you read George Will today? Cripes, he wrote about Pence as if Rick Wilson was whispering in his ear.

I saw a couple of outtakes and commentary regarding it, but haven’t read the column yet. Love the bit about Pence being “what he chose to be, which is horrifying.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 10, 2018 • 3:01:52pm

re: #157 HappyWarrior

Yep or think the Crusades were great or the 1950’s were our perfect period as a nation.

But not the REAL 1950s. Some magical 1950s where we didn’t tax the living fuck out of rich people, and unions weren’t striking all the time, successfully, for better working conditions, wages, and benefits.

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JordanRules  May 10, 2018 • 3:02:15pm

And they cancelled Brooklyn Nine-Nine.

Damnet!!!!!! The TV gods are wack!

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Bubblehead II  May 10, 2018 • 3:03:22pm

re: #153 KGxvi

If Pence wasn’t such a coward - as much of today’s news has made clear - he’d be talking with every member of the cabinet about the 25th Amendment option. But he is a fucking coward who sold his soul to Trump… I wonder what 30 pieces of silver will get you these days.

Well current spot price of 1 oz of silver $16.75, $502.50 Not a hell of a lot

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KGxvi  May 10, 2018 • 3:03:27pm

re: #162 Blind Frog Belly White

But not the REAL 1950s. Some magical 1950s where we didn’t tax the living fuck out of rich people, and unions weren’t striking all the time, successfully, for better working conditions, wages, and benefits.

Pleasantville 1950s, The Courtship of Eddie’s Father 1950s, My Three Sons 1950s… those 1950s. Which are totally different from what you read about in history books where firehoses and police dogs were being turned loose on peaceful protesters.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 10, 2018 • 3:04:22pm

re: #163 JordanRules

And they cancelled Brooklyn Nine-Nine.

Damnet!!!!!! The TV gods are wack!

We learned long ago to temper our expressions of enthusiasm for TV shows. Invariably leads to cancellation.

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MsJ  May 10, 2018 • 3:04:57pm

re: #153 KGxvi

If Pence wasn’t such a coward - as much of today’s news has made clear - he’d be talking with every member of the cabinet about the 25th Amendment option. But he is a fucking coward who sold his soul to Trump… I wonder what 30 pieces of silver will get you these days.

He’s not a coward, he’s complicit.

We now know why uber religious Pence stuck around after the MOVE ON EM LIKE A BITCH and GRAB THEM BY THE PUSSY stuff came out.

He’s complicit. Period.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2018 • 3:05:50pm

re: #144 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh god, not another fucking Trump rally.

is he going to parade his photo op NK hostages?

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JordanRules  May 10, 2018 • 3:05:51pm

re: #166 Blind Frog Belly White

We learned long ago to temper our expressions of enthusiasm for TV shows. Invariably leads to cancellation.

That’s so funny because I just caught on to this show and now it’s gone.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 3:07:46pm

re: #165 KGxvi

Pleasantville 1950s, The Courtship of Eddie’s Father 1950s, My Three Sons 1950s… those 1950s. Which are totally different from what you read about in history books where firehoses and police dogs were being turned loose on peaceful protesters.

And when black athletes celebrated for their accomplishments on the field or court were not welcome in the neighborhoods of the cities they played and lived in.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 10, 2018 • 3:08:24pm

re: #169 JordanRules

That’s so funny because I just caught on to this show and now it’s gone.

Mrs. FBW and I paid zero attention to The Americans until they had already filmed the last season, at which point we binge-watched the first 5 seasons in an orgy of staying up late and sleeping poorly with weird dreams about betrayal and such. This may be the only thing that allowed the show to go all the way to 6 seasons.

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jaunte  May 10, 2018 • 3:08:42pm

re: #170 HappyWarrior

And when black athletes celebrated for their accomplishments on the field or court were not welcome in the neighborhoods of the cities they played and lived in.

All distilled into the twisted sexual panic of “would you want one to marry your sister?”

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Bubblehead II  May 10, 2018 • 3:08:55pm

Launch officially scrubbed. 24 hr recycle. Damn. I will miss this launch as well.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 3:09:42pm

re: #172 jaunte

All distilled into the twisted sexual panic of “would you want one to marry your sister?”

Yep.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 3:10:36pm

I mean to an extent I get why people nostagize and romanticize the past of their childhoods because we all do that but when we ignore the realities of the past, that’s when it becomes problematic and dangerous.

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KGxvi  May 10, 2018 • 3:11:23pm

re: #167 MsJ

He’s not a coward, he’s complicit.

We now know why uber religious Pence stuck around after the MOVE ON EM LIKE A BITCH and GRAB THEM BY THE PUSSY stuff came out.

He’s complicit. Period.

Being a coward and being complicit aren’t mutually exclusive.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 10, 2018 • 3:12:00pm

re: #165 KGxvi

Pleasantville 1950s, The Courtship of Eddie’s Father 1950s, My Three Sons 1950s… those 1950s. Which are totally different from what you read about in history books where firehoses and police dogs were being turned loose on peaceful protesters.

Yeah, but they only turned firehoses and dogs on Those People.
//

Seriously, though - I think as far as most of the not-overtly-racist Right are concerned, the Civil Rights Movement as a legitimate entity started with Rosa Parks and ended when the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act passed, at which point blacks had achieved complete equality with whites in America. And everything after that was just trying to take more than their fair share.

And boy, do I wish I were exaggerating.

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MsJ  May 10, 2018 • 3:12:01pm

re: #176 KGxvi

Being a coward and being complicit aren’t mutually exclusive.

This is true, counselor.

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JordanRules  May 10, 2018 • 3:12:25pm

re: #171 Blind Frog Belly White

Mrs. FBW and I paid zero attention to The Americans until they had already filmed the last season, at which point we binge-watched the first 5 seasons in an orgy of staying up late and sleeping poorly with weird dreams about betrayal and such. This may be the only thing that allowed the show to go all the way to 6 seasons.

The Americans is at the top of my ‘cant wait to binge’ list. I got behind around season 2 and decided to just let it roll on knowing I could get a glorious binge session out of it.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 3:13:10pm

re: #177 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, but they only turned firehoses and dogs on Those People.
//

Seriously, though - I think as far as most of the not-overtly-racist Right are concerned, the Civil Rights Movement as a legitimate entity started with Rosa Parks and ended when the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act passed, at which point blacks had achieved complete equality with whites in America. And everything after that was just trying to take more than their fair share.

And boy, do I wish I were exaggerating.

You got that exactly right and it’s why they feel they can use MLK quotes to patronize today’s young black activists like Deray, Kaepernick, and others.

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jaunte  May 10, 2018 • 3:13:21pm
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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 3:13:29pm

re: #179 JordanRules

The Americans is at the top of my ‘cant wait to binge’ list. I got behind around season 2 and decided to just let it roll on knowing I could get a glorious binge session out of it.

Yeah I need to binge on that one too.

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plansbandc  May 10, 2018 • 3:13:55pm

re: #109 JordanRules

She’s garbage and she normalizes President Racist Grandpa every chance she gets. I regret that I was ever a fan.

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HappyWarrior  May 10, 2018 • 3:14:26pm

re: #181 jaunte

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He really should just vote solidly Democratic for the rest of his time just to spite the bastards. He won’t but he should.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 10, 2018 • 3:14:55pm

re: #179 JordanRules

The Americans is at the top of my ‘cant wait to binge’ list. I got behind around season 2 and decided to just let it roll on knowing I could get a glorious binge session out of it.

I’m more than a little amazed at the show being able to make you feel bad for Philip because killing so many people eventually makes him feel bad.

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KGxvi  May 10, 2018 • 3:16:22pm

re: #181 jaunte

And yet… there is this completely valid constitutional mechanism that they can use to defeat him. They really do hold the power to stop him.

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JordanRules  May 10, 2018 • 3:17:15pm

re: #184 HappyWarrior

He really should just vote solidly Democratic for the rest of his time just to spite the bastards. He won’t but he should.

I’d give him a letter for each Dem vote.

Vote 1- M
Vote 2 - A
Vote 3 - V
Vote 4 - E
Vote 5 - R
Vote 6 - I
……

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 10, 2018 • 3:17:36pm

re: #186 KGxvi

And yet… there is this completely valid constitutional mechanism that they can use to defeat him. They really do hold the power to stop him.

This would involve admitting they were wrong. Can’t have that.

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jaunte  May 10, 2018 • 3:19:12pm

Why is anyone still working for this jackass?

“….One person familiar with Mr. Trump’s blowup at the meeting said it was triggered by a discussion about why Mexico was not doing more to prevent illegal border crossings into the United States. Another person said the president was primarily focused on the Homeland Security Department because he views Ms. Nielsen as primarily responsible for keeping illegal immigrants out of the country.

During the meeting, Mr. Trump yelled about the fact that the United States has a porous border and said that more needs to be done to fix that. When members of his cabinet pointed out that the country relies on day laborers who cross the border each day, Mr. Trump said that was fine, but continued to complain, one person said.”

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MsJ  May 10, 2018 • 3:19:25pm

re: #181 jaunte

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KGxvi  May 10, 2018 • 3:21:07pm

re: #189 jaunte

Why is anyone still working for this jackass?

[Embedded content]

And now I am imagining the constitutional crisis of every cabinet member resigning en masse.

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MsJ  May 10, 2018 • 3:22:40pm

re: #189 jaunte

“….One person familiar with Mr. Trump’s blowup at the meeting said it was triggered by a discussion about why Mexico was not doing more to prevent illegal border crossings into the United States. Another person said the president was primarily focused on the Homeland Security Department because he views Ms. Nielsen as primarily responsible for keeping illegal immigrants out of the country.

That would not be DHS, It would be State - if we had a State Dept.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2018 • 3:24:13pm

re: #165 KGxvi

Pleasantville 1950s, The Courtship of Eddie’s Father 1950s, My Three Sons 1950s… those 1950s. Which are totally different from what you read about in history books where firehoses and police dogs were being turned loose on peaceful protesters.

Leave it to Beaver and (most importantly!) Father Knows Best

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KGxvi  May 10, 2018 • 3:24:28pm

re: #192 MsJ

That would not be DHS, It would be State - if we had a State Dept.

BUT IT’S AN INVASION! NO BORDERS! SAD!

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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 3:27:38pm

re: #161 KGxvi

I saw a couple of outtakes and commentary regarding it, but haven’t read the column yet. Love the bit about Pence being “what he chose to be, which is horrifying.”

The oleaginous Mike Pence, with his talent for toadyism and appetite for obsequiousness,

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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 3:28:18pm

re: #167 MsJ

He’s not a coward, he’s complicit.

We now know why uber religious Pence stuck around after the MOVE ON EM LIKE A BITCH and GRAB THEM BY THE PUSSY stuff came out.

He’s complicit. Period.

you support a pig, you’re a pig.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 10, 2018 • 3:30:40pm

re: #196 dangerman

you support a pig, you’re a pig.

Trump is achieving the Evangelical dream of poisoning the federal judiciary for generations to come.

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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 3:32:18pm

re: #197 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump is achieving the Evangelical dream of poisoning the federal judiciary for generations to come.

as i noted in re: #24 dangerman

possibly not so much

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TedStriker  May 10, 2018 • 3:34:04pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

Not just 1953 but the aftermath of the Shah’s rule until the Revolution.

If one doesn’t know about SAVAK, they really need to read up on it; they definitely ranked up there with the Gestapo and the Stasi.

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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 3:34:07pm

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dangerman  May 10, 2018 • 3:34:49pm

re: #197 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump is achieving the Evangelical dream of poisoning the federal judiciary for generations to come.

though grassley is being an absolute slime:

Said Grassley: “I just hope that if there is going to be a nominee, I hope it’s now or within two or three weeks, because we’ve got to get this done before the election. So my message to any one of the nine Supreme Court justices, if you’re thinking about quitting this year, do it yesterday.”

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Big Beautiful Door  May 10, 2018 • 3:36:48pm

re: #201 dangerman

though grassley is being an absolute slime:

I hope someone sends a clip of that to Kennedy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2018 • 3:48:06pm

re: #194 KGxvi

BUT IT’S AN INVASION! NO BORDERS! SAD!

CARAVANS!!11!!!

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scottslemmons  May 10, 2018 • 3:57:37pm

re: #163 JordanRules

And they cancelled Brooklyn Nine-Nine.

Damnet!!!!!! The TV gods are wack!

Some analysis from some guy over on Facebook:

Facebook Post

Summation: The networks think wingnut comedies like “Roseanne” are the key to the future. :/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2018 • 3:59:51pm

re: #204 scottslemmons

Some analysis from some guy over on Facebook:

[Embedded content]

Summation: The networks think wingnut comedies like “Roseanne” are the key to the future. :/

but Roseanne isn’t pulling those numbers anymore, is she?

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KGxvi  May 10, 2018 • 4:01:39pm

re: #204 scottslemmons

I’ve sparingly caught Brooklyn 99, looked good but just wasn’t all that into it. I gave the Last Man on Earth a shot, but gave up after the first season. Never saw the Mick.

I’m more curious as to whether they’re going to bring back Lucifer.

Also, there’s rumors that Fox may make a bid for WWE, with Monday Night Raw being on the broadcast network, so that’s 2 hours of programming that could get cut just to make room.

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KGxvi  May 10, 2018 • 4:05:06pm

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

but Roseanne isn’t pulling those numbers anymore, is she?

According to wikipedia, viewership has dropped from 18m the first couple episodes to about 10m the last few episodes. Brooklyn 9-9 and Last Man on Earth have both been under 2m pretty much all season.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 10, 2018 • 4:05:45pm

re: #207 KGxvi

According to wikipedia, viewership has dropped from 18m the first couple episodes to about 10m the last few episodes. Brooklyn 9-9 and Last Man on Earth have both been under 2m pretty much all season.

OK, thanks for looking it up

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Belafon  May 10, 2018 • 4:17:11pm

re: #204 scottslemmons

Yeah, that’s wrong.

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Cheechako  May 10, 2018 • 4:35:49pm

re: #197 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump is achieving the Evangelical dream of poisoning the federal judiciary for generations to come.

Step back for a second and look closely at the candidates trump has nominated for the Federal Judiciary. Most are refugees from the swamp trump is claiming to drain. Most of the nominees have the same shady background as many of trump’s appointments. It won’t take long for many of these “Judges” to shit in their Federal Courtrooms and become candidates for impeachment and removal. It’s just a fact that anyone trump appoints for any position has no ethics or honesty.

They may be judges now and for a few more years, but many will not finish a life-time appointment.

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ObserverArt  May 10, 2018 • 5:34:27pm

re: #175 HappyWarrior

I mean to an extent I get why people nostagize and romanticize the past of their childhoods because we all do that but when we ignore the realities of the past, that’s when it becomes problematic and dangerous.

I put a lot of this kind of thinking under one category.

The Grass is Greener on the Other Side of the Fence.

Another time, another place, another something is always better.

It’s both escapism and excuse making for not liking something now.

Humans.

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ObserverArt  May 10, 2018 • 5:42:53pm

re: #196 dangerman

you support a pig, you’re a pig.

I am working up an email to send to Portman and McConnell more or less using that theme.

I am associating the pig like things Donny is doing with him as President being the head of the Republican party. Summation…all Republicans are like Trump…thus pigs.

It’s just a little pig poke. Gotta keep those staffs busy.


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