Notorious Holocaust-Denying Rage Furby Chuck C. Johnson’s “Freestartr” Nazi Fund-Raising Site SHUT DOWN

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White supremacists and neo-Nazis across social media are whining furiously today that they’re facing discrimination for nothing more than their “political beliefs” (which include ethnic cleansing), because yet another one of Holocaust denier Chuck C. Johnson’s scam fund-raising sites has just been shut down by their payment processor Stripe.

Johnson (who is NOT ME) launched Freestartr with creepy right wing photographer Peter Duke when his previous venture “Wesearchr” folded after an acrimonious split with co-founder Pax Dickinson.

Freestartr bills itself as “free speech crowdfunding,” and specializes in helping some of America’s most unsavory characters raise cash for their various schemes and legal troubles, including neo-Nazis Richard Spencer and Andrew Anglin (owner of the “Daily Stormer” hate site), “men’s rights advocates” Vox Day and Roosh Valizadeh, and far right conspiracy peddlers Jack Posobiec and Laura Loomer. They were also raising money for an anti-abortion film supposedly starring Jon Voight.

Here’s the rant posted to Facebook last night by Johnson, in which he reveals that Stripe is accusing him of money laundering — which means he may also be in legal trouble over this.

(I’m breaking my anti-social media policy to inform you of the following.)

Despite personal assurances from one of the founders of Stripe and its top investors freestartr.com was kicked off of Stripe today.

I’m working on negotiating with them — even writing to the CEO and going to the media — but it doesn’t look good. Incredibly Stripe is claiming that we were money laundering. Yes, really.

Like @makersupport‍ before us @Freestartr complied with every request of Stripe. We were ideal customers with a ridiculously low charge back (among the lowest of any company). We actually provided MORE information to our customers than Stripe does and allowed people to have access to the emails of those backing their campaigns.

We were banned by Edwin Wee, a Democratic Party operative who now works for Stripe. I have screenshotted his Twitter accounts lavishing praise on Hillary. I recorded the phone call with Wee and he admitted that we were no platformed due to politics. They want to see exactly who are donors are and where the money goes.

I also corresponded with far left Democrat and Stripe general counsel Jon Zieger. You can check out Zieger’s tweets for yourself but he’s a loon.

Stripe allows Stormy Daniels to raise money through a British crowdfunding platform that is advised by former Obama employees, of course. They raise money exactly the way we do but they are anti-Trumps so it’s OK.

Daniels’s lawyer Michael Avenatti has a long history of fraud but he’s curiously allowed a Stripe account. Huh.

I have only begun to fight and I have retained counsel. There is a concerted effort to silence and suppress free speech on the Internet. First they banned us on Twitter, then they banned us from the payment processors.

I will never quit and all options are on the table.

Did I say he “may” be in legal trouble? I should have said “more” legal trouble, because he’s also being sued over identifying the wrong person as the Charlottesville attacker who ran a car into a group of protesters and killed one. He was served in the defamation lawsuit on May 5.

And he’s also being divorced by his wife (she filed for separation on March 26), so he’ll soon be single and ready to mingle, ladies! What a catch.

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391 comments

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bratwurst  May 11, 2018 • 12:28:32pm
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Charles Johnson  May 11, 2018 • 12:30:07pm

Bari Weiss is a fucking idiot.

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JordanRules  May 11, 2018 • 12:33:17pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Bari Weiss is a fucking idiot.

I cannot believe she gets paid to write. She’s horrible!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2018 • 12:33:32pm

That is a famous coutner argument: “If you are going to label everything I say as ‘racist’ then I guess I will just call myself a racist and be proud of it!”

Granted, there are people who toss terms like “racist” and “fascist” around a little too loosely, but anyone claiming that certain races are so inferior that they should be excluded as a group, denied rights and opportunities granted to “superior” races, then that is pretty damn racist/fascist, and not just “alt-right”

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Kragar  May 11, 2018 • 12:34:37pm

I was hoping for more divorce info, but this is good too.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 11, 2018 • 12:34:40pm
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Danack  May 11, 2018 • 12:35:39pm

Backwoods_Sleuth linked to a really insightful tweet in the last thread:

Holy shit.

Well that explains a few things - and also massively increases the likelihood that Trump could be removed from power by a simple to understand bribery scandal which is something much easier to prosecute him for, than a complicated to explain Russian oligarch based crime.

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DesertDenizen  May 11, 2018 • 12:37:37pm

By “negotiating with” I presume he means whining piteously at while simultaneously making impotent threats.

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Botsplainer  May 11, 2018 • 12:38:28pm

Now that Chuck is single and ready to mingle, maybe he and Bari Weiss can hook up. They’re a perfect pair.

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Kragar  May 11, 2018 • 12:39:08pm
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JordanRules  May 11, 2018 • 12:39:47pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 11, 2018 • 12:42:50pm

re: #10 Kragar

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YOU THINKING I’M RACIST IS WHY I VOTED FOR TRUMP!!

No, you voting for Trump is why I think you’re racist.

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MsJ  May 11, 2018 • 12:45:04pm

re: #5 Kragar

I was hoping for more divorce info, but this is good too.

I was hoping for congressional subpoena.

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JordanRules  May 11, 2018 • 12:45:06pm

re: #7 Danack

Backwoods_Sleuth linked to a really insightful tweet in the last thread:

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Holy shit.

Well that explains a few things - and also massively increases the likelihood that Trump could be removed from power by a simple to understand bribery scandal which is something much easier to prosecute him for, than a complicated to explain Russian oligarch based crime.

A bribery scheme could work to help bring him down. This bribery scheme though…I don’t know. It’s too ugly. People might want to avert their eyes.

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Single-handed sailor  May 11, 2018 • 12:46:03pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 11, 2018 • 12:46:10pm

Also, interesting to note that she implicitly identifies ‘racist’ as ‘right wing’ when she says that calling rightwingers ‘alt-right’ drives them further right.

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MsJ  May 11, 2018 • 12:46:11pm

And Chuck threatens to sue in…3…2….

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JordanRules  May 11, 2018 • 12:46:39pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2018 • 12:47:06pm

re: #15 Single-handed sailor

Russia’s Sukhoi plans to supply SSJ100R planes to #Iran despite US sanctions

They could have sent tins of borscht, but this is an outright test balloon just to see how DT responds or fails to respond.

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Single-handed sailor  May 11, 2018 • 12:48:36pm

Sputnik be trolling with fighter jet pic. It’s a passenger jet. It looks like Putin won the sanctioned Boeing contract.

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JordanRules  May 11, 2018 • 12:50:41pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 11, 2018 • 12:51:24pm
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ObserverArt  May 11, 2018 • 12:51:42pm

re: #20 Single-handed sailor

Sputnik be trolling with fighter jet pic. It’s a passenger jet. It looks like Putin won the sanctioned Boeing contract.

Such a negotiator. Be Best!

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makeitstop  May 11, 2018 • 12:51:58pm

re: #20 Single-handed sailor

Sputnik be trolling with fighter jet pic. It’s a passenger jet. It looks like Putin won the sanctioned Boeing contract.

Right. Here’s the plane in question.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2018 • 12:53:00pm

re: #22 Blind Frog Belly White

“It’s not right.”

The owner of a Maryland crab processor who voted for Trump is upset over a shortage of seasonal immigrant labor.

“Trump can fix it with his pen.”

guess what: he only wrecks things with his pen

so why can’t they get americans to do these jobs?

lack of motivation? perhaps by cutting social benefits, SNAP, CHIP and housing, they will motivate more americans to get out and earn it

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 11, 2018 • 12:55:20pm

re: #25 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

guess what: he only wrecks things with his pen

so why can’t they get americans to do these jobs?

lack of motivation? perhaps by cutting social benefits, SNAP, CHIP and housing, they will motivate more americans to get out and earn it

3.9% unemployment?

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goddamnedfrank  May 11, 2018 • 12:55:26pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 11, 2018 • 12:57:37pm

re: #27 goddamnedfrank

“You seem to be saying that conservatives are emotionally fragile, reactionary, unstable people who are easily manipulated.”

YOU CALLING ME EMOTIONALLY FRAGILE, REACTIONARY, UNSTABLE AND EASILY MANIPULATED MAKES ME WANT TO BE EVEN MORE EMOTIONALLY FRAGILE, REACTIONARY, UNSTABLE AND EASILY MANIPULATED!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 11, 2018 • 12:59:56pm

SURPRISE!!!

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Single-handed sailor  May 11, 2018 • 1:02:00pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 11, 2018 • 1:02:01pm

re: #25 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

guess what: he only wrecks things with his pen

so why can’t they get americans to do these jobs?

lack of motivation? perhaps by cutting social benefits, SNAP, CHIP and housing, they will motivate more americans to get out and earn it

More seriously, though - the Right like to say “Welfare shouldn’t pay more than work!”, which is something I think we can all pretty much agree on. But their solution is never “So let’s pay workers more!” It’s always, “Let’s fuck the poor harder!”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 11, 2018 • 1:02:48pm

T-minus 11 minutes (more or less)

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 11, 2018 • 1:03:09pm

re: #26 Blind Frog Belly White

3.9% unemployment?

Picking crabs is shit-ass brutal labor. I love picking blue crabs for me to eat, but no way is hell would I do it for a living.

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HappyWarrior  May 11, 2018 • 1:04:24pm

re: #22 Blind Frog Belly White

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They were warned. It’s too bad. That part of MD is pretty but a lot of ignorant people there.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2018 • 1:07:22pm

re: #31 Blind Frog Belly White

More seriously, though - the Right like to say “Welfare shouldn’t pay more than work!”, which is something I think we can all pretty much agree on. But their solution is never “So let’s pay workers more!” It’s always, “Let’s fuck the poor harder!”

yes, that is rather the catch here in Europe with those sorts of plans…and especially for single parents (those being mostly women) they are better off on welfare than working full time at minimum wage and paying for child care and transportation

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 11, 2018 • 1:07:42pm

re: #33 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Picking crabs is shit-ass brutal labor. I love picking blue crabs for me to eat, but no way is hell would I do it for a living.

Boy, ain’t that the truth! I remember spending hours picking crabs trying to get enough for crab cakes for a bunch of folks.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 11, 2018 • 1:08:54pm

re: #10 Kragar

Bari Weiss

@bariweiss
I’m talking here about an emotional response. What happens to you when you are called deplorable? Is the response to say to the accuser: Actually, hey, you’re right! I hadn’t realized that about myself. Or is it to maybe consider voting for Trump?
2:10 PM - May 11, 2018
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I am confused here. Hasn’t Bari switched cause and effect? After all, Hillary asserted that half the people supporting Trump were deplorable. That is, they were already Trump supporters and were planning on voting for him. So she called them deplorable for supporting him. They didn’t decide to support him because she called them deplorable.

I do have to say that it may not have been the wisest political move on her part, but that seemed to be the only way she received TV coverage. If she talked about issues, our wonderful MSM ignored her.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2018 • 1:09:50pm

re: #36 Blind Frog Belly White

Boy, ain’t that the truth! I remember spending hours picking crabs trying to get enough for crab cakes for a bunch of folks.

Do you remember the disaster in Britain involving Chinese immigrants out collecting cockles and getting caught by the incoming tide?

2004 Morecambe Bay cockling disaster

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 11, 2018 • 1:10:08pm

re: #34 HappyWarrior

They were warned. It’s too bad. That part of MD is pretty but a lot of ignorant people there.

MD is very blue. Except for the Eastern Shore (chicken farms and other agriculture), the Western Shore (agriculture), and the north west ( population 657).

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MsJ  May 11, 2018 • 1:10:19pm
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ObserverArt  May 11, 2018 • 1:11:07pm

re: #30 Single-handed sailor

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Whoa…almost forgot. Got back to the site just in time. Thanks for the reminders.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 11, 2018 • 1:12:30pm

re: #37 Hecuba’s daughter

I am confused here. Hasn’t Bari switched cause and effect? After all, Hillary asserted that half the people supporting Trump were deplorable. That is, they were already Trump supporters and were planning on voting for him. So she called them deplorable for supporting him. They didn’t decide to support him because she called them deplorable.

I do have to say that it may not have been the wisest political move on her part, but that seemed to be the only way she received TV coverage. If she talked about issues, our wonderful MSM ignored her.

The other thing? She specifically identified the part that were deplorable for racism, sexism, Islamophobia while saying the support of the rest was understandable. Trump supporters CHOSE TO identify themselves with the worst elements.

And generally, they were correct.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 11, 2018 • 1:13:14pm

re: #37 Hecuba’s daughter

I am confused here. Hasn’t Bari switched cause and effect? After all, Hillary asserted that half the people supporting Trump were deplorable. That is, they were already Trump supporters and were planning on voting for him. So she called them deplorable for supporting him. They didn’t decide to support him because she called them deplorable.

I do have to say that it may not have been the wisest political move on her part, but that seemed to be the only way she received TV coverage. If she talked about issues, our wonderful MSM ignored her.

She called then “deplorable” for being bigots, and claimed that only half of Trump’s support was from these terrible people.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2018 • 1:13:26pm

re: #40 MsJ

NRA sues New York governor, regulator for ‘blacklisting campaign’

They are a political group, not a public institution or religious affiliation.

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PhillyPretzel  May 11, 2018 • 1:13:45pm

re: #40 MsJ

I hope the State of New York and the Governor win this case.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 11, 2018 • 1:14:22pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 11, 2018 • 1:15:30pm

re: #19 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They could have sent tins of borscht, but this is an outright test balloon just to see how DT responds or fails to respond.

We know that the Marmalade Shitcannon won’t utter a peep or lift a finger to upset his Master Putin!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 11, 2018 • 1:15:55pm

Vroom, no boom

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2018 • 1:17:06pm

re: #47 Joe Bacon 🌹

We know that the Marmalade Shitcannon won’t utter a peep or lift a finger to upset his Master Putin!

This will be a real test of his haplessness: if he fails to react to this but goes after any other nation for trading with Iran he is going to look like a real Putin bitch.

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makeitstop  May 11, 2018 • 1:17:47pm

re: #49 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This will be a real test of his haplessness: if he fails to react to this but goes after any other nation for trading with Iran he is going to look like a real Putin bitch.

He’s looked like one since before he was elected.

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Sir John Barron  May 11, 2018 • 1:18:05pm

re: #29 Blind Frog Belly White

SURPRISE!!!

The plan would not exempt Detroit and Flint, two cities with unemployment rates well above 8.5 percent. Both cities are in counties with unemployment rates below the threshold, according to government statistics. About 44 percent of Michigan’s black residents live in the two cities.

Well that’s a nifty trick.

/

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danarchy  May 11, 2018 • 1:18:37pm

re: #7 Danack

Backwoods_Sleuth linked to a really insightful tweet in the last thread:

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Holy shit.

Well that explains a few things - and also massively increases the likelihood that Trump could be removed from power by a simple to understand bribery scandal which is something much easier to prosecute him for, than a complicated to explain Russian oligarch based crime.

If they were blackmailing Schneiderman they must have been really bad at it. Wasn’t he one of the more effective AG’s at getting Trump policies blocked in the courts?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 11, 2018 • 1:21:06pm

re: #24 makeitstop

Right. Here’s the plane in question.

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No doubt the mullahs need it to carry their atomic bomb even though they already have MH-370 for that. Oh wait, that was Pakistan.

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MsJ  May 11, 2018 • 1:22:24pm

Thread.

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Single-handed sailor  May 11, 2018 • 1:22:44pm

Bangabandhu, badda bing, badda boom.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 11, 2018 • 1:23:11pm

First stage on the boat

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dangerman  May 11, 2018 • 1:23:48pm

re: #1 bratwurst

I’m talking here about an emotional response. What happens to you when you are called deplorable? Is the response to say to the accuser: Actually, hey, you’re right! I hadn’t realized that about myself. Or is it to maybe consider voting for Trump?

observing a person’s behavior is not enabling it
it’s reporting it

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ObserverArt  May 11, 2018 • 1:25:02pm

Awww, they lost the cameras for the first stage recovery landing.

But they stuck it!

I need to do some reading on how those grid plates work to guide the rocket into landing positions. Those fascinate me aerodynamically.

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Eventual Carrion  May 11, 2018 • 1:25:31pm
They want to see exactly who are donors are and where the money goes.

Our?

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ObserverArt  May 11, 2018 • 1:27:23pm

re: #42 Blind Frog Belly White

The other thing? She specifically identified the part that were deplorable for racism, sexism, Islamophobia while saying the support of the rest was understandable. Trump supporters CHOSE TO identify themselves with the worst elements.

And generally, they were correct.

And, they bought the t-shirts; talk about identifying.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 11, 2018 • 1:27:36pm

BTW—What is happening with Chuck E. Sleaze’s other lawsuits?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 11, 2018 • 1:28:28pm
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ObserverArt  May 11, 2018 • 1:28:58pm

re: #43 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

She called then “deplorable” for being bigots, and claimed that only half of Trump’s support was from these terrible people.

And 90% of the Republican party voters bought in.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 11, 2018 • 1:31:37pm

re: #63 ObserverArt

And 90% of the Republican party voters bought in.

And don’t forget the 81% of Evangelicals who bow down and worship Gawd’s Annointed King!

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dangerman  May 11, 2018 • 1:31:37pm

re: #22 Blind Frog Belly White

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The owner of a Maryland crab processor who voted for Trump is upset over a shortage of seasonal immigrant labor.

you got a problem with the president’s policies?

dont tell the wall street journal

tell the president

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Sir John Barron  May 11, 2018 • 1:32:27pm

re: #51 Sir John Barron

Well that’s a nifty trick.

/

It’s also well-known that people stay within strict county-limits when seeking employment.

//

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Interesting Times  May 11, 2018 • 1:35:18pm

re: #42 Blind Frog Belly White

The other thing? She specifically identified the part that were deplorable for racism, sexism, Islamophobia while saying the support of the rest was understandable. Trump supporters CHOSE TO identify themselves with the worst elements.

And generally, they were correct.

Agree. However, I can’t help but come back to this (which deserves far, far, far more attention than it got): Democrats can win by tackling race and class together. Here’s proof

Of all the messages they tested, the only one that succeeded in winning over a majority of white voters (who initially supported a hypothetical GOPer using classic anti-immigrant narratives) was this one:

The race-class flyer says “Whether white, black, or brown, 5th generation or newcomer, we all want to build a better future for our children. My opponent says some families have value, while others don’t count. He wants to pit us against each other in order to gain power for himself and kickbacks for his donors.”

The more I think about it, the more I appreciate the sheer brilliance involved here - this race/class combo message does three things:

1) Tells the truth
2) Recognizes voters’ anger and frustration
3) Provides a legitimate target for that anger, which in turn allows said voters to abandon bigoted thoughts without the intense discomfort or threat to sense of self such an exercise could bring

Now, I realize Number Three could be a little dicey - one might say, don’t we want these people to engage in some self-reflection, even if it’s uncomfortable? My response is, one thing at a time. The message doesn’t target hard-core bigots, but the “bigot-curious” (for lack of a better term). These are people who are most likely consumed by fear and ignorance that hasn’t yet distilled into hate. They’re angry and frustrated by changes they don’t understand, and are a prime target for exploitation by demagogues.

The only way to pull them back from the brink is exactly the technique employed by the winning message - confront the issue head-on but instead of implying or stating these voters are bigots, say, “These wealthy, powerful assholes are trying to trick you with bigoted messages to distract from their corruption. Here’s your chance to tell them to shove it.”

The beauty of this approach is that it provides these voters a dignified, face-saving way to change their mind. It doesn’t ignore or dismiss their feelings of anger, fear, and frustration (which is one risk with a “we’re all in this together” race-only message) - instead, it gives them an outlet for those emotions that actually aligns with reality.

Will you reach everyone? Of course not, and that was never the goal. All you need to do is peel off just enough to win the states that matter for an electoral college win.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 11, 2018 • 1:35:29pm

re: #22 Blind Frog Belly White

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OK! First crops rot in the field and now crabs spoiling because of a worker shortage…

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jaunte  May 11, 2018 • 1:36:51pm
“…Daniels’s lawyer Michael Avenatti has a long history of fraud but he’s curiously allowed a Stripe account. Huh.”

Chuck is pretty far down the list of people Avenatti needs to think about suing, but he should be on the list.

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jaunte  May 11, 2018 • 1:42:11pm
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meteor  May 11, 2018 • 1:43:35pm
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MsJ  May 11, 2018 • 1:46:30pm

Mueller hired Rudy didn’t he?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 11, 2018 • 1:47:22pm

Calling people out for being Nazis and racists is not “marginalizing” them.

Kicking them off a social media platform is a business decision on the part of the owner based on their terms and conditions of service

punching them or threatening them are not kosher, but upsetting the feelings of people who have no trouble with the concept of genocide is not an issue

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BeachDem  May 11, 2018 • 1:49:41pm

re: #62 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Not commenting on his analysis of the bots, but if he’s covered McCain for 10 years and never heard that phrase, he must not be a very good reporter.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 11, 2018 • 1:49:58pm

re: #71 meteor

Another massacre at Bowling Green?
Oh my.

//

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ObserverArt  May 11, 2018 • 1:55:44pm

That Putin guy! Trump is a slacker comparatively.

ESPN - Vladimir Putin scores 5 goals in exhibition hockey game

SOCHI, Russia — Russian President Vladimir Putin scored five goals in an exhibition hockey game with former NHL stars on Thursday.

In what has become an annual tradition given ample airtime on state TV, Putin played on a “Legends of Hockey” team alongside big names of the past such as Pavel Bure and Slava Fetisov.

The opposition was comprised of amateur players, plus a governor and a pro-Putin billionaire. Putin’s team won the mostly slow-paced game 12-7.

Five goals was on the low side by Putin’s standards — he scored eight in the 2015 game and seven last year. The 65-year-old Russian president took up hockey late in life after being a keen judo competitor in his youth.

Amateur league hockey players set a “wonderful example” for ordinary Russians, Putin said.

“Thanks to you, millions of people make a choice in favor of a healthy lifestyle,” he said.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 2:00:21pm

this moron will kill us all…

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makeitstop  May 11, 2018 • 2:02:54pm

The knives are out for Avenatti today. RW outlets bitching about the amount of ‘free TV time’ he’s gotten from MSNBC (funny how that didn’t bother them at all when that fat son of a bitch was getting hours and hours of ‘free TV time’ while running for president).

I’m starting to believe that Trump is more afraid of Avenatti than he is of Mueller.

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Patricia Kayden  May 11, 2018 • 2:03:28pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Bari Weiss is a fucking idiot.

You should tweet that to her. I saw her on Morning Joe a few days ago and was steaming mad. She tried to compare a Black journalist’s concerns with racism with alt-right claims of being denied free speech. She’s just another apologist for racists.

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MsJ  May 11, 2018 • 2:07:27pm

The Expense was cancelled.

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Patricia Kayden  May 11, 2018 • 2:08:14pm

re: #78 makeitstop

The knives are out for Avenatti today. RW outlets bitching about the amount of ‘free TV time’ he’s gotten from MSNBC (funny how that didn’t bother them at all when that fat son of a bitch was getting hours and hours of ‘free TV time’ while running for president).

I’m starting to believe that Trump is more afraid of Avenatti than he is of Mueller.

Because Avenatti has receipts. He’s not just running his mouth (like Giuliani, Hannity or other Trump sycophants). A lot of times he makes predictions which later come true. Conservatives have met their match in Ms. Daniels and her smart attorney. Cohen better tread lightly.

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Belafon  May 11, 2018 • 2:08:18pm

re: #78 makeitstop

The knives are out for Avenatti today. RW outlets bitching about the amount of ‘free TV time’ he’s gotten from MSNBC (funny how that didn’t bother them at all when that fat son of a bitch was getting hours and hours of ‘free TV time’ while running for president).

I’m starting to believe that Trump is more afraid of Avenatti than he is of Mueller.

Everyone knows tax returns took down Capone. The stuff Avenatti is uncovering, even though we know Mueller is already looking into it, is the stuff that makes Trump an easy target. And by releasing it as party of the Daniels lawsuit, it doesn’t have the “it’s just part of the Russian investigation” cover that Trump and them were hoping for.

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Belafon  May 11, 2018 • 2:08:36pm

re: #80 MsJ

The Expense was cancelled.

Was that due to Roseanne as well? //

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Varek Raith  May 11, 2018 • 2:09:01pm

re: #80 MsJ

The Expense was cancelled.

Sigh.
This is why I don’t watch anything on tv anymore.
Anything vaguely interesting gets canned.
:(

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MsJ  May 11, 2018 • 2:09:33pm

re: #83 Belafon

Was that due to Roseanne as well? //

Dunno. Everyone is always looking for the next new thing.

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MsJ  May 11, 2018 • 2:09:57pm

re: #84 Varek Raith

Sigh.
This is why I don’t watch anything on tv anymore.
Anything vaguely interesting gets canned.
:(

That’s how I felt about Dark Matter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 2:10:15pm

re: #71 meteor

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another Bowling Green Massacre?

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Brian J.  May 11, 2018 • 2:10:21pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Bari Weiss is a fucking idiot.

She thinks she’s ahead of the curve in worshiping our new god, whiteness. Mind you, most white American “Christians” already do, but Bari sees no need to continue using those alternate names of “God” and “Jesus.”

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Varek Raith  May 11, 2018 • 2:10:44pm

re: #86 MsJ

That’s gone too?
Figures.
/Late to the tv party

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Brian J.  May 11, 2018 • 2:12:47pm

re: #78 makeitstop

The knives are out for Avenatti today. RW outlets bitching about the amount of ‘free TV time’ he’s gotten from MSNBC (funny how that didn’t bother them at all when that fat son of a bitch was getting hours and hours of ‘free TV time’ while running for president).

I’m starting to believe that Trump is more afraid of Avenatti than he is of Mueller.

Maybe he should be. Mueller sucks information in and then nothing happens, which means he’s effectively protecting the administration until he actually does something (and there’s a very good chance that between the pardon power and right-wing juries and judges, that he can’t do anything). Avenatti broadcasts what he knows to the world.

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MsJ  May 11, 2018 • 2:13:33pm

re: #89 Varek Raith

That’s gone too?
Figures.
/Late to the tv party

Last year. Made me not happy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 2:14:28pm
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BlueSpotinAL  May 11, 2018 • 2:15:06pm

re: #76 ObserverArt

That Putin guy! Trump is a slacker comparatively.

ESPN - Vladimir Putin scores 5 goals in exhibition hockey game

In other news, the Washington Generals beat the Harlem Globetrotters 157-5.

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MsJ  May 11, 2018 • 2:15:18pm

re: #90 Brian J.

Maybe he should be. Mueller sucks information in and then nothing happens, which means he’s effectively protecting the administration until he actually does something (and there’s a very good chance that between the pardon power and right-wing juries and judges, that he can’t do anything). Avenatti broadcasts what he knows to the world.

Mueller and most of the FBI are Republicans. That there will be a shitload of right wingers on the courts likely is a win for them.

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Jay C  May 11, 2018 • 2:15:46pm

re: #70 jaunte

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Well, Dan McLaughlin certainly earns his “crank” nym: SRSLY, man, “Conservative efforts to isolate the alt-right”?? WTF? What “efforts”??? The handful of ” conservative intellectuals” who sniff at the tiki-torch stormtroopers as declassé? Depending on how far to starboard they lean, most right-wingers, it seems,when accused of supporting the alt-right:

1) pretend the alt-right doesn’t exist
2) try to ignore it if it does exist
3) acknowledge it exists, but deprecate it as a irrelevant fringe
4) acknowledge it as a fringe, but downplay its influence
5) get angry at being seen as associating with the alt-right, and start bitching about “liberal smears” or whatever, which leads to:
6) supporting (or, at the least, excusing) the alt-right.

Then starting the process all over again……

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makeitstop  May 11, 2018 • 2:16:36pm

re: #89 Varek Raith

That’s gone too?
Figures.
/Late to the tv party

TV party tonight!

Black Flag - TV Party

(Is that a young Henry Rollins?)

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Brian J.  May 11, 2018 • 2:18:24pm

re: #94 MsJ

Mueller and most of the FBI are Republicans. That there will be a shitload of right wingers on the courts likely is a win for them.

You think it’s likely that a right-wing judge will casually rule for the man whom he sees as his master’s possible destroyer?

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ObserverArt  May 11, 2018 • 2:18:43pm

re: #81 Patricia Kayden

Because Avenatti has receipts. He’s not just running his mouth (like Giuliani, Hannity or other Trump sycophants). A lot of times he makes predictions which later come true. Conservatives have met their match in Ms. Daniels and her smart attorney. Cohen better tread lightly.

Hahaha!

You said Trump should tread lightly.

He will do the typical Trump heavy foot in the mouth thing because that is all he knows.

Which is to these lawyers advantage.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 2:19:28pm
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Eventual Carrion  May 11, 2018 • 2:19:36pm

re: #78 makeitstop

The knives are out for Avenatti today. RW outlets bitching about the amount of ‘free TV time’ he’s gotten from MSNBC (funny how that didn’t bother them at all when that fat son of a bitch was getting hours and hours of ‘free TV time’ while running for president).

I’m starting to believe that Trump is more afraid of Avenatti than he is of Mueller.

Sure. Fidelity may be part tRump’s prenup. If Avenatti can prove it DJT may stand to lose a ton of money to Melanoma in the divorce.

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Varek Raith  May 11, 2018 • 2:20:24pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Shit…
They’re right.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 2:21:50pm
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ObserverArt  May 11, 2018 • 2:22:42pm

re: #93 BlueSpotinAL

In other news, the Washington Generals beat the Harlem Globetrotters 157-5.

Donald J. Trump goes 18 under and wins his own golf tourney.

Was heard to say: “Believe me, I could’a been a pro. I’m the best golfer ever!”

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ipsos  May 11, 2018 • 2:24:44pm

Anyone else notice that Chuck (who is NOT OUR HOST HERE) may have inadvertently admitted to committing another crime in his statement?

If he recorded the call with Stripe at home in California, and if the Stripe exec didn’t consent to being recorded, that’s a problem. California is one of a handful of “two-party” states - everyone on a call has to be aware a recording is taking place, or it’s illegal. Most states (including my home state) are “one-party” states…if I know I’m recording the call, I don’t have to tell you. But not California.

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allegro  May 11, 2018 • 2:24:56pm

re: #100 Eventual Carrion

Sure. Fidelity may be part tRump’s prenup. If Avenatti can prove it DJT may stand to lose a ton of money to Melanoma in the divorce.

I don’t see Trump signing any prenup that would put a crimp in what he believes is his due which includes fucking anyone he wants to. Pretty sure only Melania is required to keep it at home.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 2:25:27pm

oh dear…

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Eventual Carrion  May 11, 2018 • 2:27:11pm

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh dear…

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“doesn’t get involved with pimps.”www.

Only “pussy grabbers”

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MsJ  May 11, 2018 • 2:28:48pm

re: #97 Brian J.

You think it’s likely that a right-wing judge will casually rule for the man whom he sees as his master’s possible destroyer?

I think there are a lot of FBI people who are sympathetic to trumpian thought.

I think Comey did what he did just before the election for a reason.

I waffle every day whether Mueller will accomplish anything or that nothing will happen.

I’m on a roller coaster ride of emotions which often include fear. And I’m a white girl…I can barely imagine how POC are mentally faring, because I’m not doing so great. I’m feeling downright manic-depressive wondering if today is the day we’re going to nuke the world.

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makeitstop  May 11, 2018 • 2:29:18pm

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rudy Giuliani says he won’t debate Michael Avenatti because he doesn’t “get involved with pimps.”

Looks like a really clumsy attempt to bait Avenatti.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 2:29:51pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 11, 2018 • 2:31:10pm

New law: Kansas cops can’t have sex during traffic stops

WICHITA, Kan. - A new Kansas law makes it a crime for police to have sex with people they pull over for traffic violations or detain in criminal investigations.

The new law bans sexual relations “during the course of a traffic stop, a custodial interrogation, an interview in connection with an investigation, or while the law enforcement officer has such person detained.”

Now, you may be asking, wasn’t that illegal already?

Kansas was one of 33 states where consensual sex between police and people in their custody wasn’t a crime.

That came as a surprise to members of the House Judiciary Committee, who got the new law passed in a bundled bill with several other law-enforcement measures. Gov. Jeff Colyer signed it into law Thursday.

No doubt the police union will sue for the loss of this fringe benefit. Btw, Kansas does still have money to pay cops, if nothing, and no one, else. The rest of the GOPer kingpins are laughing at Brownback and his stooge Colyer behind their backs. Poor saps actually believed that trickle down economics stuff.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 2:32:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 2:35:06pm

*blink*

WASHINGTON — The leaders of a South African group that has referred to apartheid as a “so-called” historical injustice recently toured Washington and met with top members of the U.S. government, including officials at the U.S. Agency for International Development and staffers for Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas). They even bumped into national security adviser John Bolton.

AfriForum, an Afrikaner rights organization, promotes the idea that white people in South Africa are under attack by that country’s government. It has been trying to spread its message internationally.

During their meetings in Washington, AfriForum CEO Kallie Kriel and deputy CEO Ernst Roets handed out copies of Roets’ book Kill the Boer, which pushes the controversial claim that white farmers are being singled out for systematic violence in South Africa.

On Wednesday, Kriel and Roets met with USAID officials at the agency’s Washington headquarters. It’s unclear whether the officials were aware of AfriForum’s views prior to the meeting.

my bold…good fucking grief

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HappyWarrior  May 11, 2018 • 2:36:22pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ll remember that next time they try to liken themselves to the CR movement. Beto pounce on this.

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TedStriker  May 11, 2018 • 2:36:57pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

*blink*

my bold…good fucking grief

I wish I could say that I’m surprised, but, given the Trump administration’s affinity for white supremacists, I’m really not anymore.

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Brian J.  May 11, 2018 • 2:37:10pm

re: #49 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This will be a real test of his haplessness: if he fails to react to this but goes after any other nation for trading with Iran he is going to look like a real Putin bitch.

He doesn’t care; he’s got his Praetorians in the media and the permission to kill brown people every so often, which is plenty to keep white America believing in their “strongman.”

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HappyWarrior  May 11, 2018 • 2:37:28pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Kelly grew up in a diverse city. He’s either stupid as shit or a bigot.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 11, 2018 • 2:37:35pm

Brownback has a new job that makes even better use of his obstinate gullibility: United States Ambassador-at-Large for International Religious Freedom
This position was created under the Clinton administration in 1998. Brownback is Catholic but he forged a very close relationship with fundamentalists during his tenure as governor.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 2:37:43pm

those prison stripes aren’t very flattering, but I like the look on her anyway.

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TedStriker  May 11, 2018 • 2:38:23pm

re: #117 HappyWarrior

Kelly grew up in a diverse city. He’s either stupid as shit or a bigot.

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A dark and stormy covfefe  May 11, 2018 • 2:39:26pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

Isn’t he supposed to be the sane one?

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goddamnedfrank  May 11, 2018 • 2:39:50pm

re: #105 allegro

I don’t see Trump signing any prenup that would put a crimp in what he believes is his due which includes fucking anyone he wants to. Pretty sure only Melania is required to keep it at home.

People keep saying prenup but what we should be talking about is a post-nup agreement signed immediately after the election in order to keep up the pretense of a happy marriage while he’s President. I can easily see Trump thinking that was an acceptable concession to make in order to avoid the spectacle of divorcing while in office.

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Patricia Kayden  May 11, 2018 • 2:39:50pm

re: #22 Blind Frog Belly White

So he’s only upset with Trump because he can’t hire migrant workers for cheap? He’s okay with Trump’s bigotry, bullying and stupidity but is upset for strictly personal reasons. Selfish as hell. Alrighty then.

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ObserverArt  May 11, 2018 • 2:40:31pm

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh dear…

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Go Rudy go!

I encourage him to keep saying dumb stuff. It makes so many sympathetic to The Don.

What a lawyer.

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Brian J.  May 11, 2018 • 2:41:36pm

re: #123 Patricia Kayden

So he’s only upset with Trump because he can’t hire migrant workers for cheap? He’s okay with Trump’s bigotry, bullying and stupidity but is upset for strictly personal reasons. Selfish as hell. Alrighty then.

Yep, I’d avoid this nation’s farmland for the next few years unless you love the stench of rotting vegetables, decaying fruit, and dead grain. Farmers love racism and hate paying more than pocket change to harvest their crops.

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Charles Johnson  May 11, 2018 • 2:43:30pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

Speaking of this, look what else we find at the Rage Furby’s scam site:

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A dark and stormy covfefe  May 11, 2018 • 2:43:33pm

re: #125 Brian J.

“These select few are making 3 cents a day”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 2:43:54pm
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freetoken  May 11, 2018 • 2:45:44pm

re: #123 Patricia Kayden

At least the Kentucky guy in last night’s story, in this same sub-genre of Trump-voter, had the epiphany that there is a war on brown people.

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Brian J.  May 11, 2018 • 2:46:49pm

re: #127 A dark and stormy covfefe

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“These select few are making 3 cents a day”

“Here in southern Texas, there is an additional problem.” / “Texans.”

And on a more serious note, that short also includes a very sanitized reference to the Bracero program:

Narrator: Here in the Rio Grande delta, Mexican citizens who cross the border on temporary work permits, help.
Crow: They make it sound so nice!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 2:47:52pm
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Brian J.  May 11, 2018 • 2:48:53pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Comey is the GOP’s avatar: bigotry and sanctimony worshiped by a media that loves everything white.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 2:48:59pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 2:49:46pm

*THUD*

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ObserverArt  May 11, 2018 • 2:50:47pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Hill ✔
@thehill
Comey: I don’t know what the Republican Party “stands for” anymore hill.cm

2:34 PM - May 11, 2018

Shit…and I’m restringing my tiny violin because of overuse and I can’t play Jimmy a sad song.

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Charles Johnson  May 11, 2018 • 2:50:50pm

Wow. That South African group that raised more than $44,000 at Chuck’s site is SERIOUSLY out there.

en.wikipedia.org

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prairiefire  May 11, 2018 • 2:51:43pm

Happy Friday, lizards. This is a shit sandwich world, but at least my daughter is coming home for a couple of weeks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 2:52:51pm
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Brian J.  May 11, 2018 • 2:54:20pm

re: #136 Charles Johnson

Wow. That South African group that raised more than $44,000 at Chuck’s site is SERIOUSLY out there.

en.wikipedia.org

Sounds like the successors to Eugene Terreblanche’s AWB, the antagonists of Harry Turtledove’s “Guns of the South.”

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Jay C  May 11, 2018 • 2:54:50pm

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Interesting: maybe the reversal of US vs McDonnell won’t turn out to be quite the “license to graft” the cynics assume: NYT says that Silver’s second trial was prosecuted along the stricter guidelines that (still misguided and mis-decided IMO) decision warranted: and they still found him guilty.

Good riddance.

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HappyWarrior  May 11, 2018 • 2:55:39pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sane party they’ve always been, pal until you decided their nominee was s retrograde toad.

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Brian J.  May 11, 2018 • 2:56:34pm

re: #141 HappyWarrior

Sane party they’ve always been, pal until you decided their nominee was s retrograde toad.

He’s a German soldier on, oh, about April 16, 1945, hearing the Soviet artillery and trying to turn coat.

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Patricia Kayden  May 11, 2018 • 2:58:30pm

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

**bows down to darth**

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John_Manyjars  May 11, 2018 • 2:58:51pm

He’s really rocking the ‘bearded white whale’ look…sure to impress teh ladeeezzz

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freetoken  May 11, 2018 • 2:58:53pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

To be fair, Comey was born in 1960, and when he was a little kid the Republican party had not yet been completely converted to the atavistic engine that it is today.

Many of us form mental images of what is “real” in our youth, and may not accept that after 50 years things have changed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 2:58:56pm
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Patricia Kayden  May 11, 2018 • 2:59:45pm

re: #136 Charles Johnson

Are they being held prisoners in South Africa? Why don’t they go back to Europe?

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Brian J.  May 11, 2018 • 3:00:43pm

re: #147 Patricia Kayden

Are they being held prisoners in South Africa? Why don’t they go back to Europe?

That’d be like asking John Kelly to go back to Ireland. American and South African whites apparently agree that they’re better white people than Europeans can ever be.

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Patricia Kayden  May 11, 2018 • 3:01:45pm

re: #134 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kelly lied about Rep Fredericka Wilson. He’s no less a liar than Trump. Why would Trump’s lies bother him in the least?

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ObserverArt  May 11, 2018 • 3:02:08pm

re: #145 freetoken

To be fair, Comey was born in 1960, and when he was a little kid the Republican party had not yet been completely converted to the atavistic engine that it is today.

Many of us form mental images of what is “real” in our youth, and may not accept that after 50 years things have changed.

Bullshit. If he is as so damn moralistic and intelligent as he sells himself…and being a crack investigator…he would have seen what his party is a long time ago.

Don’t make excuses for bad judgement.

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freetoken  May 11, 2018 • 3:03:14pm

re: #150 ObserverArt

Don’t make excuses for bad judgement.

I’m not.

And be clear, no matter how intelligent any of us are, we stil carry with us beliefs formed when we were children.

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ObserverArt  May 11, 2018 • 3:04:40pm

re: #151 freetoken

I’m not.

And be clear, no matter how intelligent any of us are, we stil carry with us beliefs formed when we were children.

So, we are incapable of learning right from wrong, or new info as it comes along?

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Patricia Kayden  May 11, 2018 • 3:04:54pm

re: #151 freetoken

Let’s be honest about Comey. He’s only angry at Republicans because Trump fired him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 3:05:55pm

re: #152 ObserverArt

So, we are incapable of learning right from wrong, or new info as it comes along?

I’m guessing that Watergate made no impression on Comey’s young mind to give him a clue.

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ObserverArt  May 11, 2018 • 3:06:07pm

re: #153 Patricia Kayden

Let’s be honest about Comey. He’s only angry at Republicans because Trump fired him.

And he needs to sell his book and make TV appearances.

I guess that is one thing he has learned.

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Brian J.  May 11, 2018 • 3:07:32pm

re: #153 Patricia Kayden

Let’s be honest about Comey. He’s only angry at Republicans because Trump fired him.

Anyone who turns traitor once is likely to do so again. Trump had every reason to fire him and no reason not to frame him or arrange an “accident” except sheer incompetence.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 11, 2018 • 3:07:45pm

re: #147 Patricia Kayden

Are they being held prisoners in South Africa? Why don’t they go back to Europe?

Same reason Lubbock’s upper crusties and wannabes don’t go back to Germany: Their atavism would make them unwelcome there, and they have a sweeter deal where they are, however loathe they are to admit it.

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ObserverArt  May 11, 2018 • 3:08:29pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m guessing that Watergate made no impression on Comey’s young mind to give him a clue.

Well, he was only 12-14 or so…his brain was still stuck in his childhood.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 11, 2018 • 3:08:53pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Renaissance_Man  May 11, 2018 • 3:08:58pm

re: #152 ObserverArt

So, we are incapable of learning right from wrong, or new info as it comes along?

No, but we tend not to want to. That’s a very human trait, not limited to supporters of fascist hate cults.

Comey doesn’t get a pass for his own actions in creating the Trump regime. But he’s doing more about it today than most other Republicans.

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gocart mozart  May 11, 2018 • 3:10:33pm
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BeachDem  May 11, 2018 • 3:12:06pm

re: #117 HappyWarrior

Kelly grew up in a diverse city. He’s either stupid as shit or a bigot.

I think the shit he said about Frederica Wilson answered that question.

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ObserverArt  May 11, 2018 • 3:12:55pm

re: #160 Renaissance_Man

No, but we tend not to want to. That’s a very human trait, not limited to supporters of fascist hate cults.

Comey doesn’t get a pass for his own actions in creating the Trump regime. But he’s doing more about it today than most other Republicans.

Keep in mind how he sells himself. He doesn’t bill himself as the common man, he says he has a great feel for things.

And, if he is just sliding and not wanting to learn, then why the tweet saying his party is unrecognizable. He came to the conclusion now…same guy.

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HappyWarrior  May 11, 2018 • 3:13:46pm

re: #162 BeachDem

I think the shit he said about Frederica Wilson answered that question.

For sure.

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Stanley Sea  May 11, 2018 • 3:13:46pm

re: #137 prairiefire

Happy Friday, lizards. This is a shit sandwich world, but at least my daughter is coming home for a couple of weeks.

ENJOY!!!

My friend called & YOLO’d me, I’m on my way to Palm Springs!

Funny how your social life increases when every one knows you are moving!! BTW, lizard meeting next Saturday in Oceanside! !

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ObserverArt  May 11, 2018 • 3:14:15pm

re: #161 gocart mozart

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Well there is a good example of Bernie Bros to Trump supporter.

And with that…time to tune up!

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HappyWarrior  May 11, 2018 • 3:14:41pm

re: #161 gocart mozart

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Dude shut up and let the adults talk.

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Patricia Kayden  May 11, 2018 • 3:14:53pm
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HappyWarrior  May 11, 2018 • 3:15:11pm

re: #166 ObserverArt

Well there is a good example of Bernie Bros to Trump supporter.

And with that…time to tune up!

He was originally a Rand Paul supporter. I think he just hates women.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 11, 2018 • 3:20:41pm

re: #136 Charles Johnson

Wow. That South African group that raised more than $44,000 at Chuck’s site is SERIOUSLY out there.

en.wikipedia.org

Weirdo-rama! The group is based on the alleged prophecies of Siener van Rensburg, who died in 1926.
During the Boer War, van Rensburg did not carry a weapon but he did hang around sharing his visions with various Boer honchos, especially the devoutly religious General Koos de la Rey.
Van Rensburg could not write and he never read anything but the Bible.
The Suidlanders base their current appeal on 3 tenets of van Rensburg’s prophecy.

The Afrikaners, usually rendered Boers (farmers in English) by Nicolaas van Rensburg - the appellation for conservative, orthodox, Christian, observant Afrikaners, would eventually have a black government installed over them in South Africa
The Afrikaners would suffer terribly under said government
Which suffering would eventually lead to two wars, or two struggles - firstly against the black government and then against a white monopoly capital self-appointed government (unilaterally stepping into the breach in the state during the crisis between the black forces and the Boers)

The resonance with certain American fundamentalists should be obvious.

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prairiefire  May 11, 2018 • 3:21:26pm

re: #151 freetoken

I’m not.

And be clear, no matter how intelligent any of us are, we stil carry with us beliefs formed when we were children.

There’s a lot to be said for social systems, reinforcing group think to stay “included”.

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Stanley Sea  May 11, 2018 • 3:30:26pm

My Mum is a white South African. She was a progressive from the beginning. So there’s one. I met SA expats in La Jolla. They are racists who “fled” their country with their wealth.

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EPR-radar  May 11, 2018 • 3:37:12pm

re: #67 Interesting Times

This x 100. Practical politics is a morality play, and villains must be identified. This approach does an excellent job of focusing on real villains with minimal splash damage.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 11, 2018 • 3:37:52pm

re: #161 gocart mozart

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What a Putinbot!

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EPR-radar  May 11, 2018 • 3:39:47pm

re: #78 makeitstop

The knives are out for Avenatti today. RW outlets bitching about the amount of ‘free TV time’ he’s gotten from MSNBC (funny how that didn’t bother them at all when that fat son of a bitch was getting hours and hours of ‘free TV time’ while running for president).

I’m starting to believe that Trump is more afraid of Avenatti than he is of Mueller.

Of course Trump is more afraid of Avenatti than Mueller. Avenatti is trying his case in the media and Mueller isn’t.

The really sick joke here is that Avenatti may objectively be the greater threat to Trump precisely because of this.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 11, 2018 • 3:40:34pm

If by ‘draining’ you mean ‘becoming’.

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dangerman  May 11, 2018 • 3:42:14pm

re: #176 Blind Frog Belly White

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If by ‘draining’ you mean ‘becoming’.

or if you mean draining that other swamp into ours

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goddamnedfrank  May 11, 2018 • 3:49:19pm

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Great, they killed the diversity of Brooklynn Nine Nine to resurrect this tired white turd.

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gocart mozart  May 11, 2018 • 3:51:07pm

Who is Steve Dunleavy, the “retired journalist” who talked to Trump and Cohen about the two Schniederman accusers? He’s this guy

Youtube Video

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goddamnedfrank  May 11, 2018 • 3:52:27pm

Oh damn help I’m deaf from this clapback.

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gocart mozart  May 11, 2018 • 3:56:59pm
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Jay C  May 11, 2018 • 3:58:03pm

re: #172 Stanley Sea

My Mum is a white South African. She was a progressive from the beginning. So there’s one. I met SA expats in La Jolla. They are racists who “fled” their country with their wealth.

That figures: though it seems like most of the Afrikaner-activist types find their core support from those white South Africans whose economic base is on the land: so they can’t take their “wealth” with them.
I really wonder, though, what conditions are actually like living in SA: most Americans have as much knowledge of the place as they do of most foreign countries (i.e. near-zero): most “conservatives” seem to love to paint the place as a hellhole of violence: with white folks under constant danger of being robbed, raped, assaulted and murdered by hordes of violent African savages (who never seem to have to pay for these crimes); and an economy perpetually on the brink of collapse due to (black) governmental incompetence and corruption. Sort of like a Zimbabwe, but with a solider currency.

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HappyWarrior  May 11, 2018 • 3:58:08pm

re: #181 gocart mozart

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You mean the ones who are getting a trial by their peers, Carter?

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gocart mozart  May 11, 2018 • 3:58:13pm
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Patricia Kayden  May 11, 2018 • 3:58:53pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wow. Now this I find shocking especially that this South African Neo Nazi group met with USAID. I hope some org is filing a FOIA request to unearth what was discussed at that meeting.

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Patricia Kayden  May 11, 2018 • 4:02:03pm

re: #182 Jay C

I remember reading the comment sections just before South Africa hosted the World Cup. The comments were mostly racists claiming that South Africa was a dangerous hell hole and that soccer fans should stay away. I don’t recall hearing about even one incident where a tourist was hurt or killed during that World Cup. Except for the noisy horns that were constantly blown (which got on my last nerves), it appeared to be a lovely time for all.

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goddamnedfrank  May 11, 2018 • 4:04:53pm

Honestly tho’ that pic of Chuck at the top of this thread is borderline NSFW.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 11, 2018 • 4:06:25pm

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Anymouse 🌹  May 11, 2018 • 4:08:47pm

re: #145 freetoken

To be fair, Comey was born in 1960, and when he was a little kid the Republican party had not yet been completely converted to the atavistic engine that it is today.

Many of us form mental images of what is “real” in our youth, and may not accept that after 50 years things have changed.

I was born in 1960. No pass for Comey.

By the time I was four, Goldwater had already invited in the racists. In 1968 Nixon launched the Southern Strategy (which conservatives keep ignoring in the Dixiecrat Fallacy). By 1980, Reagan was standing on the site of slain civil rights workers in Mississippi to launch his campaign.

Nope, both Comey and I were eligible to vote in 1980. I’ll bet he didn’t vote for Jimmy Carter like I did.

And I’ve never been fired from the FBI for lack-of-loyalty. That’s a feature of conservatism.

I’m in and out here. The roads just opened to the county seat and I have to get to town before tonight’s round of severe thunderstorms (yay).

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austin_blue  May 11, 2018 • 4:09:01pm

re: #186 Patricia Kayden

I remember reading the comment sections just before South Africa hosted the World Cup. They comments were mostly racists claiming that South Africa was a dangerous hell hole and that soccer fans should stay away. I don’t recall hearing about even one incident where a tourist was hurt or killed during that World Cup. Except for the noisy horns that were constantly blown (which got on my last nerves), it appeared to be a lovely time for all.

Those were vuvuzelas, or lepapatas, and anyone who carried one should have been arrested and jailed for causing a public nuisance, or disturbing the peace, or discharging an ear killer in an urban area.. Even the playXplay/color commentators were yelling to be heard over them.

But, you know, Cultural Differences.

Incredibly annoying Cultural Differences.

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DodgerFan1988  May 11, 2018 • 4:12:00pm

These are not isolated incidents of panicky white people calling the police because they’re scared at the sight of black people. It’s a coordinated Right Wing intimidation against blacks by using cops as proxy; another form of Swatting. All over Right Wing social media Conservatives are instructed to call the police on blacks and exaggerate a crime in progress. Trolling in it’s purest form.

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MsJ  May 11, 2018 • 4:13:27pm

Short 3 tweet thread. Read these legal documents. They’re nuts.

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EPR-radar  May 11, 2018 • 4:16:47pm

re: #192 MsJ

One has to assume that Chris Sevier has consummated his marriage with his computer many times by now, and that his repeated fucking of its USB ports has caused him to lose his tiny mind.

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dangerman  May 11, 2018 • 4:17:07pm

re: #191 DodgerFan1988

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These are not isolated incidents of panicky white people calling the police because they’re scared at the sight of black people. It’s a coordinated Right Wing intimidation against blacks by using cops as proxy; another form of Swatting. All over Right Wing social media Conservatives are instructed to call the police on blacks and exaggerate a crime in progress. Trolling at it’s purest form.

which so far they’ve been willing to do without any reservation or introspection

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Brian J.  May 11, 2018 • 4:19:03pm

re: #67 Interesting Times

Agree. However, I can’t help but come back to this (which deserves far, far, far more attention than it got): Democrats can win by tackling race and class together. Here’s proof

Of all the messages they tested, the only one that succeeded in winning over a majority of white voters (who initially supported a hypothetical GOPer using classic anti-immigrant narratives) was this one:

The more I think about it, the more I appreciate the sheer brilliance involved here - this race/class combo message does three things:

1) Tells the truth
2) Recognizes voters’ anger and frustration
3) Provides a legitimate target for that anger, which in turn allows said voters to abandon bigoted thoughts without the intense discomfort or threat to sense of self such an exercise could bring

Now, I realize Number Three could be a little dicey - one might say, don’t we want these people to engage in some self-reflection, even if it’s uncomfortable? My response is, one thing at a time. The message doesn’t target hard-core bigots, but the “bigot-curious” (for lack of a better term). These are people who are most likely consumed by fear and ignorance that hasn’t yet distilled into hate. They’re angry and frustrated by changes they don’t understand, and are a prime target for exploitation by demagogues.

The only way to pull them back from the brink is exactly the technique employed by the winning message - confront the issue head-on but instead of implying or stating these voters are bigots, say, “These wealthy, powerful assholes are trying to trick you with bigoted messages to distract from their corruption. Here’s your chance to tell them to shove it.”

The beauty of this approach is that it provides these voters a dignified, face-saving way to change their mind. It doesn’t ignore or dismiss their feelings of anger, fear, and frustration (which is one risk with a “we’re all in this together” race-only message) - instead, it gives them an outlet for those emotions that actually aligns with reality.

Will you reach everyone? Of course not, and that was never the goal. All you need to do is peel off just enough to win the states that matter for an electoral college win.

Nonsense, I’m afraid. Where and when has this approach worked?

The only thing, the ONLY thing that has ever managed to convince racists not to support the right wing (whether that would be Dixiecrats or Republicans) is economic desperation. Not “I didn’t get a raise this year” unease, but “Where am I going to find food for my family tomorrow” deprivation. Even this has a low probability of success, but that’s still more likely than coddling racial supremacy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 4:20:24pm

gee, Steve, let me take a wild guess…

THEY ARE FREAKING COWARDS WHO ARE WILLING TO SELL OUT TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 4:21:38pm

re: #195 Brian J.

Nonsense, I’m afraid. Where and when has this approach worked?

The only thing, the ONLY thing that has ever managed to convince racists not to support the right wing (whether that would be Dixiecrats or Republicans) is economic desperation. Not “I didn’t get a raise this year” unease, but “Where am I going to find food for my family tomorrow” deprivation. Even this has a low probability of success, but that’s still more likely than coddling racial supremacy.

ahhh…the ever popular “economic anxiety”…

O_o

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Brian J.  May 11, 2018 • 4:22:14pm

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

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gee, Steve, let me take a wild guess…

THEY ARE FREAKING COWARDS WHO ARE WILLING TO SELL OUT TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER.

McCain would probably be gleefully supporting Donnie despite this latest humiliation if he weren’t in extremis. The McCains helped create this monster; I frankly don’t care if it turns on them.

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Interesting Times  May 11, 2018 • 4:22:41pm

re: #195 Brian J.

Nonsense, I’m afraid. Where and when has this approach worked?

Did you read the linked article?

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Brian J.  May 11, 2018 • 4:23:46pm

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

ahhh…the ever popular “economic anxiety”…

O_o

Right. Anxiety doesn’t stop racism. Gibbering fear does… occasionally, that’s how the New Deal was allowed to happen and give government assistance to those of nonwhite races. And even that had huge racial carveouts.

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MsJ  May 11, 2018 • 4:24:28pm

re: #191 DodgerFan1988

I tweeted that. Thank you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 4:24:38pm
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Brian J.  May 11, 2018 • 4:24:59pm

re: #199 Interesting Times

Did you read the linked article?

I was deeply unimpressed. It’s a faceful of polling data. It’s at best one step above BernieBro “Free stuff cures racism” nonsense.

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MsJ  May 11, 2018 • 4:25:47pm
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Mattand  May 11, 2018 • 4:26:14pm

Hey, all:

Getting caught up on the thread. Some observations:

1) Fuck James Comey. Seriously. He thought he could get in good with Trump and it fucking backfired in his face like Elmer Fudd firing a carrot-jammed shot gun.

He used the FBI to sway an election to try to keep himself employed and stick it to Clinton.

Fuck.

Him.

B) I was just reading the Old Images of Philadelphia page. Lots of great photos of the city from years past, but Jesus Christ, some of the members; when they’re not making barely concealed racist comments that “those” people ruined the city, they pretty much believe there was no litter in Philly prior to 1968.

But here’s the thing: I’m reading these atrocious misspelled comments, with their improper capitalization of verbs and multi-period ellipses, and had a major revelation.

One of the reasons I love this site is the vast, vast majority of the readers here can write proper English. I know it sounds weird, but it’s really nice to be part of a group where elementary school grammar lessons actually took.

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dangerman  May 11, 2018 • 4:27:21pm

re: #202 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Robert Mueller has known about this offer for some time.

I’ll sleep just fine tonight

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ipsos  May 11, 2018 • 4:27:57pm

re: #205 Mattand

One of the reasons I love this site is the vast, vast majority of the readers here can write proper English. I know it sounds weird, but it’s really nice to be part of a group where elementary school grammar lessons actually took.

Im sorry I have no idea what your talking about.

///

(Yeah, I like being around people who can grammar, too.)

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gocart mozart  May 11, 2018 • 4:28:23pm
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Mattand  May 11, 2018 • 4:28:25pm

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, Steve-o, these are the same Republicans who you presented Sarah Palin to in 2008 and they ate it up.

You might want to look up the definition of “culpable” when you get a spare moment. You helped create this mess; maybe it’s time you owned up to your mistake.

I should really tweet that at him.

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Ace Rothstein  May 11, 2018 • 4:30:15pm

re: #205 Mattand

How r u Matt? Tx bk k?

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austin_blue  May 11, 2018 • 4:30:25pm

re: #205 Mattand

Hey, all:

But here’s the thing: I’m reading these atrocious misspelled comments, with their improper capitalization of verbs and multi-period ellipses, and had a major revelation.

One of the reasons I love this site is the vast, vast majority of the readers here can write proper English. I know it sounds weird, but it’s really nice to be part of a group where elementary school grammar lessons actually took.

That’s because we know theres’ no their they’re.

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MsJ  May 11, 2018 • 4:30:55pm
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MsJ  May 11, 2018 • 4:31:56pm
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dangerman  May 11, 2018 • 4:32:07pm

re: #205 Mattand

Hey, all:

Getting caught up on the thread. Some observations:

1) Fuck James Comey. Seriously. He thought he could get in good with Trump and it fucking backfired in his face like Elmer Fudd firing a carrot-jammed shot gun.

He used the FBI to sway an election to try to keep himself employed and stick it to Clinton.

Fuck.

Him.

B) I was just reading the Old Images of Philadelphia page. Lots of great photos of the city from years past, but Jesus Christ, some of the members; when they’re not making barely concealed racist comments that “those” people ruined the city, they pretty much believe there was no litter in Philly prior to 1968.

But here’s the thing: I’m reading these atrocious misspelled comments, with their improper capitalization of verbs and multi-period ellipses, and had a major revelation.

One of the reasons I love this site is the vast, vast majority of the readers here can write proper English. I know it sounds weird, but it’s really nice to be part of a group where elementary school grammar lessons actually took.

For whom. //jk really

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Mattand  May 11, 2018 • 4:32:26pm

re: #210 Ace Rothstein

How r u Matt? Tx bk k?

DIIIIEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

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MsJ  May 11, 2018 • 4:32:47pm

Shit. Someone who couldn’t thread.

Go read all of them.

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Mattand  May 11, 2018 • 4:33:11pm

re: #214 dangerman

Damn you and yer book learnin’.

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Ace Rothstein  May 11, 2018 • 4:33:21pm

re: #215 Mattand

LOLZ U cray

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Brian J.  May 11, 2018 • 4:34:04pm

re: #213 MsJ

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And that’s the problem; they’ve found so much that there’s no focus. Mueller’d need the entire Department of Justice to make any headway, and he seems completely unable to determine which of these strains can produce the most likely or the fastest indictments and convictions because there are so many choices. As a result, he seems paralyzed.

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dangerman  May 11, 2018 • 4:34:21pm

re: #212 MsJ

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That’s 8
I’m guessing not even close

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dangerman  May 11, 2018 • 4:34:45pm

re: #213 MsJ

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Oh

Nevermind

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MsJ  May 11, 2018 • 4:35:18pm

re: #220 dangerman

That’s 8
I’m guessing not even close

There are 27 all told.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 11, 2018 • 4:37:22pm

I have spent more time than I want to admit building a spreadsheet planning out my runs for the next 8 months.

Whoops.

>.>

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Mattand  May 11, 2018 • 4:37:48pm

re: #209 Mattand

LOL, Steve-o, these are the same Republicans who you presented Sarah Palin to in 2008 and they ate it up.

You might want to look up the definition of “culpable” when you get a spare moment. You helped create this mess; maybe it’s time you owned up to your mistake.

I should really tweet that at him.

I gave in and trolled him. Not expecting a response, but these fucking people never admit the hand they had in getting the GOP where there are today. That’s also the theme of the current Bob Cessca show, so it’s on my mind. But I have been bitching about it for a while.

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dangerman  May 11, 2018 • 4:37:56pm

re: #219 Brian J.

And that’s the problem; they’ve found so much that there’s no focus. Mueller’d need the entire Department of Justice to make any headway, and he seems completely unable to determine which of these strains can produce the most likely or the fastest indictments and convictions because there are so many choices. As a result, he seems paralyzed.

This is speculation he AppearS paralyzed because he releases little
We have no idea what his focuses are or what headway or conclusion s he’s made

No one knows what they know or for how long they’ve known jt

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Mattand  May 11, 2018 • 4:39:16pm

re: #223 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I have spent more time than I want to admit building a spreadsheet planning out my runs for the next 8 months.

Whoops.

>.>

I recently made a spreadsheet of all the songs I can reasonably play on guitar. Up to 70 right now.

Keep in mind that a lot of those are Ramones songs and things like You Really Got Me.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 11, 2018 • 4:39:21pm

re: #223 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The klys and dangerman running extravaganza is getting a sequel, btw. You’re all invited to run 26.2 miles with us.

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Mattand  May 11, 2018 • 4:40:36pm

re: #227 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The klys and dangerman running extravaganza is getting a sequel, btw. You’re all invited to run 26.2 miles with us.

If you need someone to liveblog it from NJ, let me know.

On second thought, the thought of all that typing is making me tired.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 11, 2018 • 4:41:00pm

re: #228 Mattand

If you need someone to liveblog it from NJ, let me know.

On second thought, the thought of all that typing is making me tired.

Added bonus: race start time will be 5:30am.

Go!

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EPR-radar  May 11, 2018 • 4:41:06pm

re: #219 Brian J.

And that’s the problem; they’ve found so much that there’s no focus. Mueller’d need the entire Department of Justice to make any headway, and he seems completely unable to determine which of these strains can produce the most likely or the fastest indictments and convictions because there are so many choices. As a result, he seems paralyzed.

I don’t think it is reasonable to assume Mueller is screwing this up simply because of the enormity of the Trump crime empire.

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Brian J.  May 11, 2018 • 4:41:30pm

re: #225 dangerman

This is speculation he AppearS paralyzed because he releases little
We have no idea what his focuses are or what headway or conclusion s he’s made

No one knows what they know or for how long they’ve known jt

If he weren’t paralyzed, then he’d be pursuing one or two of these strains to their conclusion with indictments that would immediately become public, and leaving the others for his assistants. Instead, there’s another and another and another new strain announced every day, and new possible subject matter that isn’t clearly developed. Mueller’s obviously been much more professional than Ken “Rape is OK if it doesn’t involve a Clinton” Starr, but he really seems distracted by the deluge of evidence he’s receiving. (And Avenatti is demonstrating that when it comes to unsettling Cheeto Jesus, public leaking seems to be very effective.)

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wrenchwench  May 11, 2018 • 4:41:51pm

re: #226 Mattand

I recently made a spreadsheet of all the songs I can reasonably play on guitar. Up to 70 right now.

Keep in mind that a lot of those are Ramones songs and things like You Really Got Me.

If you can sing and play the guitar AT THE SAME TIME, you’re doing better than the Ramones when they started out.

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dangerman  May 11, 2018 • 4:42:01pm

re: #229 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Added bonus: race start time will be 5:30am.

Go!

Bus leaves at 3

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 11, 2018 • 4:42:24pm

re: #233 dangerman

Bus leaves at 3

My plan involves getting actual amounts of sleep before the race this time.

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Mattand  May 11, 2018 • 4:42:39pm

re: #225 dangerman

This is speculation he AppearS paralyzed because he releases little
We have no idea what his focuses are or what headway or conclusion s he’s made

No one knows what they know or for how long they’ve known jt

I really am trying to stick with the “justice grinds slow” mindset. I also like to think that Muller gets what clear and present danger Trump is, and wants to make sure that the case is beyond airtight.

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Mattand  May 11, 2018 • 4:43:30pm

re: #232 wrenchwench

If you can sing and play the guitar AT THE SAME TIME, you’re doing better than the Ramones when they started out.

No one wants me singing. No one. It’s actually in the Geneva Convention.

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EPR-radar  May 11, 2018 • 4:44:11pm

re: #231 Brian J.

If he weren’t paralyzed, then he’d be pursuing one or two of these strains to their conclusion with indictments that would immediately become public, and leaving the others for his assistants. Instead, there’s another and another and another new strain announced every day, and new possible subject matter that isn’t clearly developed. Mueller’s obviously been much more professional than Ken “Rape is OK if it doesn’t involve a Clinton” Starr, but he really seems distracted by the deluge of evidence he’s receiving. (And Avenatti is demonstrating that when it comes to unsettling Cheeto Jesus, public leaking seems to be very effective.)

What I’m hoping for from Mueller is a blitzkrieg. Shock and awe vs. the entire criminal enterprise, done so quickly that they can’t get their usual level of cover from each other and the mainstream media.

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Brian J.  May 11, 2018 • 4:45:58pm

re: #237 EPR-radar

What I’m hoping for from Mueller is a blitzkrieg. Shock and awe vs. the entire criminal enterprise, done so quickly that thy can’t get their usual level of cover from each other and the mainstream media.

Blitzkrieg doesn’t work across a thousand-mile front. You need to choose a couple of specific narrow axes of attack to hurl the armored divisions into. Let the infantry follow behind and round up the prisoners.

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Patricia Kayden  May 11, 2018 • 4:46:16pm

re: #191 DodgerFan1988

And there’s a draft bill in Congress called “Blue Lives Matter” which would make the police a protected class. theroot.com

Keep in mind that Blacks are supposed to be a protected class when it comes to racial discrimination. Not that it matters.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 11, 2018 • 4:46:22pm

Went to my first ever comic con today! Not a large scale show but reasonably sized. Had a great time and got to score a meet and greet with Brent Spiner. Very cool dude, he even playfully ragged some guy in a Jedi costume. I made a point to say I enjoyed his work on Night Court because I imagine he is sick of hearing about Star Trek all the time. He also went on a rant against Mike Pence after I told him about my emergency surgery in Indiana.

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EPR-radar  May 11, 2018 • 4:47:51pm

OT, I’ve recently ended up with a frozen shoulder. The good news is that it is usually a self limiting condition. The bad news is pain and stiffness for 1-2 years without medical treatment and for 12-24 months with medical treatment. Irritating.

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TedStriker  May 11, 2018 • 4:48:58pm

re: #205 Mattand

Hey, all:

Getting caught up on the thread. Some observations:

1) Fuck James Comey. Seriously. He thought he could get in good with Trump and it fucking backfired in his face like Elmer Fudd firing a carrot-jammed shot gun.

He used the FBI to sway an election to try to keep himself employed and stick it to Clinton.

Fuck.

Him.

B) I was just reading the Old Images of Philadelphia page. Lots of great photos of the city from years past, but Jesus Christ, some of the members; when they’re not making barely concealed racist comments that “those” people ruined the city, they pretty much believe there was no litter in Philly prior to 1968.

But here’s the thing: I’m reading these atrocious misspelled comments, with their improper capitalization of verbs and multi-period ellipses, and had a major revelation.

One of the reasons I love this site is the vast, vast majority of the readers here can write proper English. I know it sounds weird, but it’s really nice to be part of a group where elementary school grammar lessons actually took.

AH KUN REED RITE AN TALK GUD…

///

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EPR-radar  May 11, 2018 • 4:49:32pm

re: #238 Brian J.

Blitzkrieg doesn’t work across a thousand-mile front. You need to choose a couple of specific narrow axes of attack to hurl the armored divisions into. Let the infantry follow behind and round up the prisoners.

Finding a way to arrest that smarmy piece of pig shit Devin Nunes would be an excellent start to the “shit just got real” phase of the investigation.

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Patricia Kayden  May 11, 2018 • 4:49:34pm

re: #187 goddamnedfrank

Honestly tho’ that pic of Chuck at the top of this thread is borderline NSFW.

LOL!! Well, at least he’s partially covered. Otherwise, it should be displayed with a trigger warning. For a White Supremacist, he sure doesn’t look supreme.

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TedStriker  May 11, 2018 • 4:50:41pm

re: #241 EPR-radar

OT, I’ve recently ended up with a frozen shoulder. The good news is that it is usually a self limiting condition. The bad news is pain and stiffness for 1-2 years without medical treatment and for 12-24 months with medical treatment. Irritating.

Huh? It’s the same amount of time either way.

Either case, it sucks.

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Charles Johnson  May 11, 2018 • 4:50:53pm
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EPR-radar  May 11, 2018 • 4:52:55pm

re: #245 TedStriker

Huh? It’s the same amount of time either way.

Either case, it sucks.

That’s the joke. It’s just like a cold where no medical treatment changes the course or duration of the malady.

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Patricia Kayden  May 11, 2018 • 4:52:57pm

re: #240 Eclectic Cyborg

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MsJ  May 11, 2018 • 4:53:49pm

re: #227 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The klys and dangerman running extravaganza is getting a sequel, btw. You’re all invited to run 26.2 miles with us.

Sorry. I got tired reading that. 🤣

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fern01  May 11, 2018 • 4:57:46pm

re: #241 EPR-radar

OT, I’ve recently ended up with a frozen shoulder. The good news is that it is usually a self limiting condition. The bad news is pain and stiffness for 1-2 years without medical treatment and for 12-24 months with medical treatment. Irritating.

I had that - went to a physio for about 3 months (stopped going when we were flooded out and the physio’s office was destroyed). She did little or no manipulation - that was painful so I objected - but gave me some arm exercises which were amazing in their healing. I kept doing the exercises and about 3-4 months later realized everything was back to normal. (Felt like it happened overnight??) So less than 12 months & if I’d kept going to physio may have been quicker. Hope you have a similar experience - my doc & physio said no to any major intervention/treatment.

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gocart mozart  May 11, 2018 • 4:58:48pm
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austin_blue  May 11, 2018 • 4:59:54pm

re: #217 Mattand

Damn you and yer book learnin’.

It’s all parse and partle of a proper public school education!

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Belafon  May 11, 2018 • 5:13:52pm

re: #203 Brian J.

I was deeply unimpressed. It’s a faceful of polling data. It’s at best one step above BernieBro “Free stuff cures racism” nonsense.

I’m curious what you think polling data is.

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jaunte  May 11, 2018 • 5:16:30pm
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allegro  May 11, 2018 • 5:16:41pm

re: #253 Belafon

I’m curious what you think polling data is.

Fake news!

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JordanRules  May 11, 2018 • 5:22:24pm

re: #254 jaunte

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There was really good viral Twitter post a while back that asked what these weirdos would be like if they had to endure actual oppression, not this made up thing they keep recycling to get paid for their columns on pretty large platforms. I think about that a lot.

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Jay C  May 11, 2018 • 5:23:08pm

re: #205 Mattand

But here’s the thing: I’m reading these atrocious misspelled comments, with their improper capitalization of verbs and multi-period ellipses, and had a major revelation.

One of the reasons I love this site is the vast, vast majority of the readers here can write proper English. I know it sounds weird, but it’s really nice to be part of a group where elementary school grammar lessons actually took.

thanx mattand: We Thibk its nice, Two…

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jaunte  May 11, 2018 • 5:25:01pm

David French: “Bret Weinstein faced down the mob at Evergreen State College.”

“…The double standard has been astonishing, as we watch people who claim to be “even-handed” in their politics uphold the “free speech” of white supremacists, while condemning as “intolerant radical leftists” those who exercise their own free speech to challenge hate speech. What has been happening at Evergreen is a conflict between different parties and beliefs, with both sides exercising free speech. Nevertheless, some media have equated having an unpopular political opinion on a campus to being a marginalized racial or gender “minority.” Radio host Bryan Fischer lionizes Bret Weinstein as “Rosa Parks” for “refusing to go the back of the diversity bus.”
huffingtonpost.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 5:26:17pm

re: #250 fern01

I had that - went to a physio for about 3 months (stopped going when we were flooded out and the physio’s office was destroyed). She did little or no manipulation - that was painful so I objected - but gave me some arm exercises which were amazing in their healing. I kept doing the exercises and about 3-4 months later realized everything was back to normal. (Felt like it happened overnight??) So less than 12 months & if I’d kept going to physio may have been quicker. Hope you have a similar experience - my doc & physio said no to any major intervention/treatment.

same with me

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HappyWarrior  May 11, 2018 • 5:26:44pm

re: #258 jaunte

David French: “Bret Weinstein faced down the mob at Evergreen State College.”

Yawn David. No one is obligated to listen to your guy blab.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 11, 2018 • 5:32:50pm

re: #260 HappyWarrior

Yawn David. No one is obligated to listen to your guy blab.

Also, I think it’s become a common sport of College Republicans to invite the most egregious sort of speaker - Milo springs to mind - with the intent of making themselves into victims.

Here’s the thing - if you invite speakers whose entire schtick is begging for attention by attacking people, you cannot feign surprise when people protest.

I mean, for Christ’s sake, Milo couldn’t even keep a job with Breitbart. He was always awful. We all said he was awful. Suddenly Breitbart ‘discovers’ he’s awful and fires him, but really it was all there to see.

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MsJ  May 11, 2018 • 5:33:13pm

This bitch infuriates me. I mean infuriates me!

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teleskiguy  May 11, 2018 • 5:36:43pm
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HappyWarrior  May 11, 2018 • 5:36:47pm

re: #261 Blind Frog Belly White

Also, I think it’s become a common sport of College Republicans to invite the most egregious sort of speaker - Milo springs to mind - with the intent of making themselves into victims.

Here’s the thing - if you invite speakers whose entire schtick is begging for attention by attacking people, you cannot feign surprise when people protest.

I mean, for Christ’s sake, Milo couldn’t even keep a job with Breitbart. He was always awful. We all said he was awful. Suddenly Breitbart ‘discovers’ he’s awful and fires him, but really it was all there to see.

Exactly. College conservatives love speakers like that not because they have anything insightful to say but because “they piss off da libtardz.”

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HappyWarrior  May 11, 2018 • 5:37:27pm

re: #262 MsJ

This bitch infuriates me. I mean infuriates me!

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Because you’re a fucking hypocrite maybe?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 5:38:37pm

Fascinating that Mueller is apparently “paralyzed” because he’s not moving fast enough to satisfy some people.
All those indictments and guilty pleas so far are meaningless, I suppose…

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austin_blue  May 11, 2018 • 5:39:05pm

re: #263 teleskiguy

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Hmmmm…

Purported serial abuser of women upset because a business enterprise didn’t get his “consent”.

Hmmmm…

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teleskiguy  May 11, 2018 • 5:39:45pm

re: #267 austin_blue

Hmmmm…

Purported serial abuser of women upset because a business enterprise didn’t get his “consent”.

Hmmmm…

Check the source.

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MsJ  May 11, 2018 • 5:40:53pm

Because of course.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 11, 2018 • 5:41:00pm

re: #263 teleskiguy

Last I checked they don’t need his damn consent

EDIT: It’s the Onion. Nevermind lol.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 11, 2018 • 5:42:00pm

re: #269 MsJ

Because of course.

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JFC.

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austin_blue  May 11, 2018 • 5:42:30pm

re: #268 teleskiguy

Check the source.

Well, fuck me, caught!

That’s some excellent trolling by The Onion, right there.

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MsJ  May 11, 2018 • 5:44:24pm
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goddamnedfrank  May 11, 2018 • 5:45:08pm
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makeitstop  May 11, 2018 • 5:46:30pm

re: #266 Backwoods_Sleuth

Fascinating that Mueller is apparently “paralyzed” because he’s not moving fast enough to satisfy some people.
All those indictments and guilty pleas so far are meaningless, I suppose…

Why, he’s positively confused and overwhelmed!
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Concern noted.

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teleskiguy  May 11, 2018 • 5:47:20pm
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MsJ  May 11, 2018 • 5:47:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 5:48:19pm

re: #275 makeitstop

Why, he’s positively confused and overwhelmed!
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Concern noted.

Uncanny, isn’t it, how some people know exactly what Mueller is doing. It’s like they are right inside his office…

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JordanRules  May 11, 2018 • 5:49:13pm
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makeitstop  May 11, 2018 • 5:50:19pm

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

Uncanny, isn’t it, how some people know exactly what Mueller is doing. It’s like they are right inside his office…

Or right inside his mind!

It’s nice to have people around to tell us the myriad ways Mueller is failing us, innit?

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Charles Johnson  May 11, 2018 • 5:51:22pm
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JordanRules  May 11, 2018 • 5:53:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 5:55:13pm

yep, still a moron.

But please do keep talking about AT&T/Time Warner…

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Varek Raith  May 11, 2018 • 5:56:08pm

Boston Dynamics = Cyberdyne Systems.

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gocart mozart  May 11, 2018 • 5:56:42pm
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JordanRules  May 11, 2018 • 5:57:11pm
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JordanRules  May 11, 2018 • 6:00:52pm
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The Major  May 11, 2018 • 6:01:14pm

re: #24 makeitstop

Did they ever figure out why that one SuperJet crashed?

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Barefoot Grin  May 11, 2018 • 6:02:45pm

re: #287 JordanRules

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Legit chuckle.

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JordanRules  May 11, 2018 • 6:03:11pm
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Single-handed sailor  May 11, 2018 • 6:03:22pm

Nov 15, 2017 Last week, many were caught off-guard by reports that AT&T’s massive bid for Time Warner had hit a rough patch. In a matter of days, the $108.7 billion acquisition went from looking like a done deal to something much less certain, with the Justice Department and AT&T seemingly at loggerheads and possibly headed toward a lawsuit.

In the middle of it all was a fierce disagreement over the future of CNN, a frequent target of President Donald Trump’s criticism and a Time Warner property.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 6:07:02pm
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makeitstop  May 11, 2018 • 6:10:40pm

Nice. Another bunch of hackers to worry about.

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PhillyPretzel  May 11, 2018 • 6:10:52pm

re: #292 Backwoods_Sleuth

The reason why he calls it that is because he thinks he is next on the list. That and DT gave him $$$ to say that.

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gocart mozart  May 11, 2018 • 6:11:08pm
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Barefoot Grin  May 11, 2018 • 6:11:33pm

We need many increments between a Scaramucci and a Benghazi.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 6:12:29pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 11, 2018 • 6:13:24pm

re: #273 MsJ

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Now let me guess—no company in TexASS will sell “rape insurance”…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 6:13:48pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 11, 2018 • 6:14:34pm

re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth

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At this point, I wouldn’t trust Giuliani if he said the fucking sky is blue.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 6:15:20pm
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MsJ  May 11, 2018 • 6:16:00pm

Keep talking Rudy.

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William Lewis  May 11, 2018 • 6:16:16pm

re: #288 The Major

Did they ever figure out why that one SuperJet crashed?

en.wikipedia.org

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Charles Johnson  May 11, 2018 • 6:17:55pm
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HappyWarrior  May 11, 2018 • 6:18:15pm

re: #293 makeitstop

Nice. Another bunch of hackers to worry about.

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And cyber security is something they’ve ignored.

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jaunte  May 11, 2018 • 6:19:01pm
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austin_blue  May 11, 2018 • 6:19:13pm

re: #284 Varek Raith

Boston Dynamics = Cyberdyne Systems.

Get me my Overthruster, John Bigboutte!

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meteor  May 11, 2018 • 6:21:14pm
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makeitstop  May 11, 2018 • 6:21:57pm

re: #305 HappyWarrior

And cyber security is something they’ve ignored.

Yeah, that, too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 6:22:13pm

President Trump on Friday announced that Stephen Feinberg, a New York billionaire who owns the giant military contractor DynCorp International, will chair a White House executive board that reviews the effectiveness and legality of foreign intelligence.

Feinberg in the early months of Trump’s presidency was rumored to be under consideration to lead some kind of broad-based review of the intelligence community, which Trump was then blaming for the departure of his first national security advisor, Michael Flynn.

But that role never materialized. Now, he will head the so-called President’s Intelligence Advisory Board (PIAB) — a committee made up of non-government employees that gets access to a wide swath of intelligence information and acts as an independent monitor on the 17 agencies that make up the intelligence community.

The panel has no legal authority and its influence has risen and fallen depending on the president in question. President Jimmy Carter once disbanded it entirely.

Feinberg, who has no previous experience working in government intelligence, is the first person that Trump has appointed to the board. Previous reports had suggested that Peter Thiel, the Silicon Valley venture capitalist who backed Trump in the 2016 campaign, was also in the running for the post.

sigh…

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jaunte  May 11, 2018 • 6:24:40pm

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

a committee made up of non-government employees that gets access to a wide swath of intelligence information

Oh yeah, The Insider Trading Panel.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 6:25:05pm
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William Lewis  May 11, 2018 • 6:25:56pm

re: #305 HappyWarrior

And cyber security is something they’ve been told to ignored.

FTFY.

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gocart mozart  May 11, 2018 • 6:25:58pm
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gocart mozart  May 11, 2018 • 6:26:39pm

..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 6:26:51pm
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austin_blue  May 11, 2018 • 6:27:15pm

re: #288 The Major

Did they ever figure out why that one SuperJet crashed?

The pilot flew it into the side of a mountain. With a bunch of customers on board.

“A loss of situational awareness”, perhaps?

in any case, bad marketing.

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makeitstop  May 11, 2018 • 6:27:27pm

I shudder to think how any major region in the country would react to losing the electrical grid for a few days. Or even cell service or the web.

People are so dependent on this stuff, it would induce panic if it was taken away for a while. People would straight lose their minds.

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Single-handed sailor  May 11, 2018 • 6:28:05pm

some lightning in OK on storm chasers.

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JordanRules  May 11, 2018 • 6:29:43pm

re: #318 makeitstop

I shudder to think how any major region in the country would react to losing the electrical grid for a few days. Or even cell service or the web.

People are so dependent on this stuff, it would induce panic if it was taken away for a while. People would straight lose their minds.

And I tend to think it is going to happen

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jaunte  May 11, 2018 • 6:31:32pm

re: #281 Charles Johnson

This robot can chase you and jump over obstacles

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gocart mozart  May 11, 2018 • 6:33:43pm
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mmmirele  May 11, 2018 • 6:33:56pm

I love Chrissy Teigen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 6:34:40pm
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jaunte  May 11, 2018 • 6:35:04pm

re: #323 mmmirele

Vienna sausage before coloring, Vienna sausage with Red No. 3.

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JordanRules  May 11, 2018 • 6:35:47pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 11, 2018 • 6:35:51pm

re: #323 mmmirele

I love Chrissy Teigen:

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Was he posing for his new Grindr profile?

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Single-handed sailor  May 11, 2018 • 6:37:20pm

re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth

Conservatives are incapable of understanding context.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 6:40:14pm
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HappyWarrior  May 11, 2018 • 6:40:28pm

re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah this is really stupid

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dangerman  May 11, 2018 • 6:41:29pm

re: #227 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The klys and dangerman running extravaganza is getting a sequel, btw. You’re all invited to run 26.2 miles with us.

at some point you gotta give em details
at least the name of the race(s) and the particulars

sorry, i cant hang around tonight
prepping for our return trip to denver

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 6:42:23pm

re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  May 11, 2018 • 6:45:29pm

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Remember when Rick Santorum lectured the pope.

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Eventual Carrion  May 11, 2018 • 6:46:42pm

re: #263 teleskiguy

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I’m a Steelers fan. But come on Ben, you are no spring chicken in this sport. The team has to think of the future.

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austin_blue  May 11, 2018 • 6:47:58pm

re: #334 Eventual Carrion

I’m a Steelers fan. But come on Ben, you are no spring chicken in this sport. The team has to think of the future.

I fell for it, too. It’s an Onion story, riffing on his serial abuse of women and “consent”.

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teleskiguy  May 11, 2018 • 6:49:51pm
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Eventual Carrion  May 11, 2018 • 6:50:56pm

re: #272 austin_blue

Well, fuck me, caught!

That’s some excellent trolling by The Onion, right there.

I got caught by not looking. But Ben can be a whiner.

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Eventual Carrion  May 11, 2018 • 6:54:46pm

re: #277 MsJ

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Bounce fabric softener smell laundered.

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makeitstop  May 11, 2018 • 6:55:06pm

re: #324 Backwoods_Sleuth

Stormy Daniels’ lawyer earned estimated $174 billion of free media on CNN and MSNBC since March: report

They’d have to give him a network for him to have gotten that much.

Math is hard!

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TedStriker  May 11, 2018 • 6:55:32pm

re: #302 MsJ

Keep talking Rudy.

And basically AT&T decided to pay bribes “consulting fees” to Cohen to bend Trump’s ear into greasing the skids on a reversal.

Teapot Dome doesn’t have shit on all of this.

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Single-handed sailor  May 11, 2018 • 6:56:16pm

My life ain’t great but at least I don’t have lava fountains in my back yard.

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goddamnedfrank  May 11, 2018 • 6:59:31pm

Right winger language is always revealing.

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wheat-dogg  May 11, 2018 • 6:59:35pm

Relating to the OP, if Rage Furby’s FreeLoadr site (or whatever it’s called) is processing donations to foreign-based organizations — like that Afrikaner fringe group — that would send up all kinds of red flags in Stripe’s legal and accounting departments. $45K is not pocket change, for one. Stripe would be understandably concerned about FinCEN, the IRS and the FBI paying Stripe visits to find out why so much money is being funneled through a so-called crowd-funding site to offshore organizations. Easiest recourse for Stripe is to cut ties with Rage Furby to avoid any sort of “entanglements” with US authorities.

For a guy who repeatedly boasts about his high IQ, RF is remarkably obtuse. Once you start dealing with sums of money in excess of $10K, the Feds start to get curious about what’s going on. He’s practically got a neon sign turned on that says “Money laundering needs? Come see us!”

Besides all that, I’m still wondering how (or if) he reports the income he makes off handling this amount of cash. I had the same question about WeSearchr, which had the interesting clause in its T&C that WeSearchr would just hold onto funds donated to unsuccessful projects for later reassignment to other projects.

Then I wonder how (or if) he was explaining to his wife how much he’s actually worth.

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TedStriker  May 11, 2018 • 7:01:51pm

re: #343 wheat-dogg

Relating to the OP, if Rage Furby’s FreeLoadr site (or whatever it’s called) is processing donations to foreign-based organizations — like that Afrikaner fringe group — that would send up all kinds of red flags in Stripe’s legal and accounting departments. $45K is not pocket change, for one. Stripe would be understandably concerned about FinCEN, the IRS and the FBI paying Stripe visits to find out why so much money is being funneled through a so-called crowd-funding site to offshore organizations. Easiest recourse for Stripe is to cut ties with Rage Furby to avoid any sort of “entanglements” with US authorities.

For a guy who repeatedly boasts about his high IQ, RF is remarkably obtuse. Once you start dealing with sums of money in excess of $10K, the Feds start to get curious about what’s going on. He’s practically got a neon sign turned on that says “Money laundering needs? Come see us!”

Besides all that, I’m still wondering how (or if) he reports the income he makes off handling this amount of cash. I had the same question about WeSearchr, which had the interesting clause in its T&C that WeSearchr would just hold onto funds donated to unsuccessful projects for later reassignment to other projects.

Then I wonder how (or if) he was explaining to his wife how much he’s actually worth.

You know he’s going to plead poverty in the divorce proceedings.

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jaunte  May 11, 2018 • 7:02:14pm

re: #342 goddamnedfrank

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HappyWarrior  May 11, 2018 • 7:03:12pm

re: #345 jaunte

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And I saw many “patriotic” conservatives eager to spread them.

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teleskiguy  May 11, 2018 • 7:07:29pm
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mmmirele  May 11, 2018 • 7:09:00pm

re: #343 wheat-dogg

Relating to the OP, if Rage Furby’s FreeLoadr site (or whatever it’s called) is processing donations to foreign-based organizations — like that Afrikaner fringe group — that would send up all kinds of red flags in Stripe’s legal and accounting departments. $45K is not pocket change, for one. Stripe would be understandably concerned about FinCEN, the IRS and the FBI paying Stripe visits to find out why so much money is being funneled through a so-called crowd-funding site to offshore organizations. Easiest recourse for Stripe is to cut ties with Rage Furby to avoid any sort of “entanglements” with US authorities.

For a guy who repeatedly boasts about his high IQ, RF is remarkably obtuse. Once you start dealing with sums of money in excess of $10K, the Feds start to get curious about what’s going on. He’s practically got a neon sign turned on that says “Money laundering needs? Come see us!”

Besides all that, I’m still wondering how (or if) he reports the income he makes off handling this amount of cash. I had the same question about WeSearchr, which had the interesting clause in its T&C that WeSearchr would just hold onto funds donated to unsuccessful projects for later reassignment to other projects.

Then I wonder how (or if) he was explaining to his wife how much he’s actually worth.

Quoting for truth. I didn’t realize the Rage Furby was bringing in that kind of money through his grift. If Stripe has a competent anti-money laundering operation (and they should if they want to stay in business) then yes, what Chuckles was doing would raise eyebrows.

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wheat-dogg  May 11, 2018 • 7:09:46pm

re: #344 TedStriker

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HappyWarrior  May 11, 2018 • 7:12:19pm

re: #347 teleskiguy

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I guess the Pruitt shit needed a sex angle to it too. JFC this guy is so brazenly corrupt.

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jaunte  May 11, 2018 • 7:14:21pm
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HappyWarrior  May 11, 2018 • 7:16:11pm

re: #351 jaunte

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Well ookie there. A Republican governor in Oklahoma no less standing up to the bedwetters at the NRA. Props.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 7:17:14pm

Long thread starts with this and worth reading:

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teleskiguy  May 11, 2018 • 7:18:28pm

For three years (2008-11) I had access to JSTOR and NexisLexis. That was nice.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 7:21:36pm

re: #351 jaunte

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heh:

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teleskiguy  May 11, 2018 • 7:28:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 7:31:41pm

hypocrite…thy name is John Kelly

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HappyWarrior  May 11, 2018 • 7:32:51pm

re: #357 Backwoods_Sleuth

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hypocrite…thy name is John Kelly

Yep. I bet he didn’t know that but that’s exactly why he should have kept his fat mouth shut.

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Belafon  May 11, 2018 • 7:34:05pm

re: #357 Backwoods_Sleuth

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hypocrite racist…thy name is John Kelly

But that’s obvious.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 7:43:08pm

re: #357 Backwoods_Sleuth

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hypocrite…thy name is John Kelly

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 11, 2018 • 7:45:34pm
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Belafon  May 11, 2018 • 7:50:16pm
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gocart mozart  May 11, 2018 • 7:51:34pm
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Jay C  May 11, 2018 • 7:52:35pm

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

Thinking this over for a second (and it really didn’t take much longer), The Stupid starts to burn even brighter: even leaving aside the dumb million/billion typo, what is this” report” saying? That Michael Avenatti “earned” $174M in “free media coverage” As in, if he had wanted to pay for said coverage (ads? infomercials? a movie?) it would have cost him $174M? NOT how it works……

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JordanRules  May 11, 2018 • 7:52:44pm
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makeitstop  May 11, 2018 • 7:54:09pm

re: #364 Jay C

Think this over a second, The Stupid starts to burn even brighter: even leaving aside the dumb million/billion typo, what is this” report” saying? That Michael Avenatti “earned” $174M in “free media coverage” As in, if he had wanted to pay for said coverage (ads? infomercials? a movie?) it would have cost him $174M? NOT how it works……

Edit: Never mind….

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HappyWarrior  May 11, 2018 • 7:54:19pm

re: #363 gocart mozart

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Definitely not akin to a car but definitely not rare. There’s a reason why secession worked.

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JordanRules  May 11, 2018 • 7:59:39pm
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teleskiguy  May 11, 2018 • 8:02:12pm
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JordanRules  May 11, 2018 • 8:05:15pm

I once had a bad relationship and frequently use a phone. I too know anti-trust and the telecoms!

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Ace-o-aces  May 11, 2018 • 8:05:27pm

Hold on everyone, it looks like Ben Shapiro is on the edge of developing self-awareness!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 8:07:21pm

re: #371 Ace-o-aces

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Hold on everyone, it looks like Ben Shapiro is on the edge of developing self-awareness!

No worries…it’s just a spring allergy…

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HappyWarrior  May 11, 2018 • 8:07:51pm

re: #371 Ace-o-aces

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Hold on everyone, it looks like Ben Shapiro is on the edge of developing self-awareness!

That’s not how you got Bernie. The fact is you called Obama a Marxist because you know your readers can’t separate moderate Democrats from Marxists.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 8:08:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 8:10:22pm

thread starts with this:

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MsJ  May 11, 2018 • 8:11:17pm

re: #371 Ace-o-aces

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Hold on everyone, it looks like Ben Shapiro is on the edge of developing self-awareness!

Situationally. And only because he feels it helps his current argument.

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JordanRules  May 11, 2018 • 8:12:28pm

re: #376 MsJ

Situationally. And only because he feels it helps his current argument.

Exactly. He’s not slick!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 8:13:08pm
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HappyWarrior  May 11, 2018 • 8:13:27pm

re: #376 MsJ

Situationally. And only because he feels it helps his current argument.

Yep he’ll be back to blaming Obana for Trumpism. I’m tired of Trumpers whining that articles are why they’re that way. No, you’re that way because you’re assholes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 11, 2018 • 8:14:48pm
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Ace-o-aces  May 11, 2018 • 8:18:43pm
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HappyWarrior  May 11, 2018 • 8:21:08pm

re: #381 Ace-o-aces

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Dude worked for Breitbart until the bigoted readership went after him. He didn’t deserve the anti Semitic harassment but he doesn’t get to act like he was innocent of the rise of the alt right.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 11, 2018 • 8:24:42pm

Well, my wife and I are back from town and I caught up on the thread.

We took US-26 (the north side of the North Platte River) to town and the just reopened NE-92 (the south side of the river).

Oh man the tornado damage outside town is pretty severe. A Butler hut on NE-92 has shrapnel spread for miles, all sorts of wheels-up irrigation systems, uprooted trees, and a building where the cement foundation was moved several feet.

You can see where the tornado went across the river from NE-92 to US-26 as it approached town.

Tonight in the weather: Building thunderstorms in N Colorado and SE Wyoming are crossing the state line and taking aim at us (again). Assuming they hold together, they’ll be here sometime after midnight (just what we like, rain-wrapped tornadoes at night).

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Anymouse 🌹  May 11, 2018 • 8:26:56pm

I also drove up north of town on Road 125. Outside of town at Rose Hill Cemetery (the town-owned cemetery) about two miles north, the equipment shed has no roof. Electric poles are all akimbo, and several seem to have been cut off by the electric company and simply stuck back in the ground much shorter. (Past the cemetery, there are almost no buildings, and no irrigation systems other than canals.)

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stpaulbear  May 11, 2018 • 8:30:39pm

re: #384 Anymouse 🌹

I hope the storms miss you again tonight. Good luck. Hope you have a good place to shelter if needed.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 11, 2018 • 8:33:06pm

re: #385 stpaulbear

I hope the storms miss you again tonight. Good luck. Hope you have a good place to shelter if needed.

We have a root cellar my wife can’t get into because the stairs are too steep. If we can get over to the village hall (a block and a half), it is probably the most sturdy building in town (and I have the keys to the city).

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Anymouse 🌹  May 11, 2018 • 8:36:03pm

Local radar for N Colo, E Wyo, NE Panhandle:
wunderground.com

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 11, 2018 • 8:51:16pm
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Chez Ko Pe  May 12, 2018 • 8:41:56am

Oh no! He’s losing his Hot Asian Wife?!?? I guess he’s got options now…
Option A: Go Full Incel.
Option B: ………………

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Alephnaught  May 12, 2018 • 11:09:25am

re: #323 mmmirele

I love Chrissy Teigen.

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This looks like: “45 days after… a) Learning to hold in my stomach!!! b) doing a selfie in darker lighting levels!!!”

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carey94tt  May 12, 2018 • 2:27:31pm

re: #241 EPR-radar

OT, I’ve recently ended up with a frozen shoulder. The good news is that it is usually a self limiting condition. The bad news is pain and stiffness for 1-2 years without medical treatment and for 12-24 months with medical treatment. Irritating.

Let me tell you about my experience. Month of pain and physical therapy. The I gave up and got the injection of steroids into the joint (painless). It cleared up in a couple of days and hasn’t been back.


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