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1
A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 12, 2018 • 9:25:50pm

re: #281 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

I’ve been CL’ed. I’m so excited….

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goddamnedfrank  May 12, 2018 • 10:03:05pm
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austin_blue  May 12, 2018 • 10:03:38pm

“The loose horse in the hospital just fired the Horse Catcher.”

Not bad.

But I think a better analogy might be “The loose germ in the hospital just fired the human who is in charge of disinfecting the hospital.”

When we were in the UK earlier this spring, people were like “Trump?”

And we were like “Theresa May? Boris Johnson?” People in England rolled their eyes and were basically of the opinion that we were all fucked.

But while that went over well in England, it kind of tanked in Scotland, where Theresa and Boris are generally looked upon as little greasy, smelly turd-like objects deserving of contempt. If Brexit goes through, they are out of the Union. Northern Ireland is also pissed as shit, as much as they don’t want to join the Republic.

If the Tories don’t reverse Brexit, they will reap the whirlwind by alienating their real base, which is the haves and the have-mores. And the UK will cease to exist.

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goddamnedfrank  May 12, 2018 • 10:04:57pm
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wheat-dogg  May 12, 2018 • 10:13:43pm

re: #4 goddamnedfrank

See also, death metal

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freetoken  May 12, 2018 • 10:18:35pm

Documentary outtake for the evening, from Bill Bailey’s Jungle Hero, a two part series that retraced Wallace’s journey’s and his role in the development in the theory of evolution:

Bill Bailey’s Jungle Hero: Wallace In The Spice Islands

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goddamnedfrank  May 12, 2018 • 10:26:48pm
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austin_blue  May 12, 2018 • 10:46:15pm

Night all!

It’s relegation Sunday tomorrow in the Premier League. Swansea would have to win, Southampton would have to lose, and Swansea would have to overcome a nine goal differential in scoring in the last game. Virtually impossible. Still, a lot of placement games are taking place, with big money at stake.

Sweet dreams. See you all tomorrow.

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Belafon  May 12, 2018 • 11:31:29pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 12, 2018 • 11:58:37pm

“You have to have a freedom to speak in a private meeting to speak candidly. We’ve all said things in private, esp. in smaller groups that we work with, that we’d never say publicly…I’m really disappointed that someone would undermine POTUS by leaking it.”

I do make a distinction between private and public utterances. Does not mean that I do not think that he is an asshole, but I knew that he was a dick before I heard about his utterance.

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freetoken  May 13, 2018 • 12:13:36am

re: #10 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The whole excuse is bogus.

First off, the meeting was a workplace. A government workplace. This was no “private” meeting.

Secondly, I deny the allegation. I don’t go around making fun of dying people in secret.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 12:19:43am

re: #11 freetoken

The whole excuse is bogus.

First off, the meeting was a workplace. A government workplace. This was no “private” meeting.

Secondly, I deny the allegation. I don’t go around making fun of dying people in secret.

That is true. I say a lot of things in private company that I would never say in public or at work, especially if I were working for the US government.

Trump’s utterances belittling McCain’s military record were public statements and that sums it up entirely.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 12:36:02am

Oh Emm Gee!

I just checked to see that I have passed 100K in karma while I was asleep

Thanks to all your Lizards!

Now I can slow down and stop posting so frantically

When do I get my Soros Bitcoins?

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Dave In Austin  May 13, 2018 • 2:00:31am
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Single-handed sailor  May 13, 2018 • 2:03:58am

Fissure #17

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goddamnedfrank  May 13, 2018 • 2:09:51am
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freetoken  May 13, 2018 • 2:15:14am

re: #16 goddamnedfrank

Baghdad Bob Pence we ought to call him.

I was reading a paper just the other day on the “nones” and religion in America. Of course Pence is telling just the opposite of the truth.

And as others have noted, Pence explicitly wrote “church”, not temple, not mosque. He wrote “Bible”, not “Torah” or “Koran” (or even Chi Chi sticks).

Pence and Trump are the most explicit examples of gas lighting perhaps in the history of politics, at least as far as democracies go.

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freetoken  May 13, 2018 • 2:31:50am

re: #15 Single-handed sailor

I just finished watching “10.5 Apocalypse” as it is on Amazon Prime and Amazon put it up as a recommendation: amazon.com

It’s from 2006 and I was out of the country at the time so I missed it, which is all the better as it’s a stupid movie.

If one looks at it as some sort of homage to Irwin Allen then perhaps it can work as an ironic comedy.

Anyway, as an IMDB review put it, a lot of good actors thrown at a bad story.
imdb.com

Basically, the writers throw out reality for setting up catastrophes in which to pit human drama.

There is no concept of scale. This is a problem with almost all “sci-fi” movies, and disaster movies tend to be the worst at it (ignoring comic-book adaptations, which are pure fantasy.)

So much wrong in a single three-part TV movie.

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freetoken  May 13, 2018 • 2:33:12am

Oh, I mentioned that movie because it is about cracks. Just like now in Hawaii, but in the movie the lava never spews out of the cracks, one of a zillion things wrong with the movie.

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freetoken  May 13, 2018 • 3:09:03am

Amazon tends to hide some gems in their Prime video catalog. At least they never show up on recommendations for me.

Example: Celebrity Bowling, from 1970: amazon.com

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 13, 2018 • 3:17:23am

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wheat-dogg  May 13, 2018 • 3:48:19am

re: #18 freetoken

There was a spate of such apocalyptic movies, each as ludicrous as the last one, between 1999 and 2012. Quite a few played on the millennialism being pushed by the Fundies, but also the “alternative histories” promulgated by the woo-woo fringe, If it wasn’t a ginormous earthquake, it was a climatic disaster, a supervolcano, an immense solar flare, an asteroid strike, or some other “act of God.” Any actual science was thrown out as unnecessary to the plot, which generally had billions die while a select few manage to survive.

I watch these kind of flicks just so I can debunk them for friends (or students) who take them as documentaries, and not complete fantasies.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 4:13:12am

re: #22 wheat-dogg

I watch these kind of flicks just so I can debunk them for friends (or students) who take them as documentaries, and not complete fantasies.

this is another basic flaw in education, along with failing to teach the scientific method, the historical method or basic civics, namely that we do not explain the difference between literary genres: the difference between a work of science or history, a textbook, a biography, a testament or a work of fiction.

There are people who really take works of historical or even speculative fiction as history.

Not to mention people who take the Old Testament as a science and history textbook.

And as much as i enjoyed The Man in the High Castle (both novel and TV series), it was more a work on the mutable nature of reality than alternate history: Japan never intended to nor was it in any position to occupy the USA except perhaps Hawaii, they just wanted access to oil and other resources.

And World War Z (he novel, not the god-awful film) is not so much a zombie story but a parable about how humanity almost always falls flat on its face when dealing with a crisis: first by ignoring it, then denying, it, then trying to cover it up, all of which make it even worse so that when it really breaks out, we are totally unprepared for it.

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freetoken  May 13, 2018 • 4:19:38am

re: #23 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s not so much that these sort of movies don’t get the details of science right. I really don’t expect people (writers, producers, directors) who have not studied in various disciplines to know the subjects.

Rather, the nature of these movies are much more insulting than that.

I just sped through another Amazon Prime offering, “Meteor”. It’s just as bad as 10.5 Apocalypse, but not quite as campy.

These movies:
1) are very, very USA-centric;
2) offer unreasonable heros that somehow can conquer nature;
3) totally ignore the most obvious problems with breaking reality;
4) and generally have very stupid dialogue, speech that no real humans speak.

And they do this because these disaster movies are playing into the most basic of human needs: salvation.

Save me, Mr. military.
Save me, Mr. scientist.
Save me, Mr. President.
Save me, God-in-the-box.
Save me, Mr. America.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 4:28:46am

re: #24 freetoken

It’s not so much that these sort of movies don’t get the details of science right. I really don’t expect people (writers, producers, directors) who have not studied in various disciplines to know the subjects.

Rather, the nature of these movies are much more insulting than that.

On those occasions when a work of fiction or film has any redeeming artistic or philosophical qualities, I see that as an extra bonus, because the main calculation behind these movies/novels is simply whether the film studio/publisher can make more money from them than they cost to produce.

There are occasionally other considerations, but that is the bottom line.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 13, 2018 • 4:34:01am

Honey.

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DodgerFan1988  May 13, 2018 • 4:34:44am
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Patricia Kayden  May 13, 2018 • 4:42:15am

re: #27 DodgerFan1988

We were never ticked off or offended about Ms. Wolf’s pointed jokes. This administration deserves much more ridicule and mockery than it has gotten.

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wheat-dogg  May 13, 2018 • 4:46:33am

re: #24 freetoken

Oh, yeah, Meteor was another stinker.

They are more akin to 1950s science fiction movies (bugeyed monsters from beyond the black lagoon) than more modern SF flicks, which still mostly depend on the Western model of a hero somehow overcoming many obstacles to triumph in the end.

As for the scientific accuracy or lack thereof, if you peruse the credits of these flicks, most will include a “science consultant” or “science advisor,” a thankless job that basically requires the person to tell the filmmakers what they don’t want to hear, and will ignore anyway.

For instance, in Meteor, a comet (which are mostly “dirty snowballs”) supposedly shatters an asteroid (which are mostly stony or metallic) into many pieces, all of which somehow make a bee-line for Earth. Science advisor guy probably said, “Now wait a minute!” right about there. Setting aside the comet smashing an asteroid problem, orbital dynamics would suggest few if any of those pieces would come anywhere near the Earth, mostly because space is really big and the Earth quite small. But the writers needed some sort of cheap dramatic device to keep the audience in suspense, and what better way than to have a series of smaller impacts precede the big one?

Another trope of these flicks is that the Government always seems to have some kind of secret superweapon or spacecraft just lying about to deal with the pending disaster. See also, Independence Day.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 4:47:21am

Again, “He’s dying already” was a comment that was made in an internal meeting and not a public comment. That does not make it any less offensive in its nature, just less of a cause for commotion.

But “He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren’t captured.” was a public statement that would have derailed the campaign or even the career or any “normal” politician, it is a sign of how fucked up the GOP is that DT was able to continue on after such an utterance.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 4:51:19am

re: #29 wheat-dogg

Oh, yeah, Meteor was another stinker.

They are more akin to 1950s science fiction movies (bugeyed monsters from beyond the black lagoon) than more modern SF flicks, which still mostly depend on the Western model of a hero somehow overcoming many obstacles to triumph in the end.

As for the scientific accuracy or lack thereof, if you peruse the credits of these flicks, most will include a “science consultant” or “science advisor,” a thankless job that basically requires the person to tell the filmmakers what they don’t want to hear, and will ignore anyway.

Yunno, even as a teenager, I had a similar approach to esotericism: I was terribly interested in stuff like The Golden Bough, From Ritual to Romance and Ouspensky, but only as a source of imagery and creative inspiration, certainly not as a philosophy or a way of life.

I wound up parting company with a few people who started taking it all way too seriously for my taste.

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Dr Lizardo  May 13, 2018 • 4:53:11am

re: #22 wheat-dogg

There was a spate of such apocalyptic movies, each as ludicrous as the last one, between 1999 and 2012. Quite a few played on the millennialism being pushed by the Fundies, but also the “alternative histories” promulgated by the woo-woo fringe, If it wasn’t a ginormous earthquake, it was a climatic disaster, a supervolcano, an immense solar flare, an asteroid strike, or some other “act of God.” Any actual science was thrown out as unnecessary to the plot, which generally had billions die while a select few manage to survive.

I watch these kind of flicks just so I can debunk them for friends (or students) who take them as documentaries, and not complete fantasies.

2012 was the best of them. Roger Ebert put it quite nicely:

It’s not so much that the Earth is destroyed, but that it’s done so thoroughly. “2012,” the mother of all disaster movies (and the father, and the extended family) spends half an hour on ominous set-up scenes (scientists warn, strange events occur, prophets rant and of course a family is introduced) and then unleashes two hours of cataclysmic special events hammering the Earth relentlessly.

This is fun. “2012” delivers what it promises, and since no sentient being will buy a ticket expecting anything else, it will be, for its audiences, one of the most satisfactory films of the year. It even has real actors in it. Like all the best disaster movies, it’s funniest at its most hysterical. You think you’ve seen end-of-the-world movies? This one ends the world, stomps on it, grinds it up and spits it out.

He gave it three and a half out of four stars.

rogerebert.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 4:55:57am

re: #32 Dr Lizardo

2012 was the best of them. Roger Ebert put it quite nicely:

He gave it three and a half out of four stars.

rogerebert.com

I felt much the same about “The Day After”: it delivered what it promised in the way of dramatic cataclysm which more or less made up for what it lacked in other areas.

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wheat-dogg  May 13, 2018 • 4:55:59am

re: #31 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yunno, even as a teenager, I had a similar approach to esotericism: I was terribly interested in stuff like The Golden Bough, From Ritual to Romance and Ouspensky, but only as a source of imagery and creative inspiration, certainly not as a philosophy or a way of life.

I wound up parting company with a few people who started taking it all way too seriously for my taste.

Every decade seems to have a work of literature that inspires people to say and do stupid shit. The Secret was one. A Course in Miracles. Any of Deepak Chapra’s tomes. The Alchemist by Paolo Coelho. Atlas Shrugged. The list goes on.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 4:57:30am

re: #34 wheat-dogg

Every decade seems to have a work of literature that inspires people to say and do stupid shit. The Secret was one. A Course in Miracles. Any of Deepak Chapra’s tomes. The Alchemist by Paolo Coelho. Atlas Shrugged. The list goes on.

Yes, I went for the Inspiration to do Stupid Shit from the early 20th century; a matter of preference, just like some guys like Gene Harlowe better than Marilyn Monroe.

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wheat-dogg  May 13, 2018 • 4:58:49am

re: #33 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Day After Tomorrow? The Day After was that TV movie about a nuclear missile strike in the Midwest.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 5:01:56am

re: #36 wheat-dogg

The Day After Tomorrow? The Day After was that TV movie about a nuclear missile strike in the Midwest.

The Day After was that 80’s TV drama that started to wake people up to the Madness of Mutually Assured Destruction, The Day After Tomorrow was a 2004 feature film about disastrous consequences of global warming.

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wheat-dogg  May 13, 2018 • 5:06:40am

re: #35 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, I went for the Inspiration to do Stupid Shit from the early 20th century; a matter of preference, just like some guys like Gene Harlowe better than Marilyn Monroe.

My rule is to assume anything described as “seminal”, “a testament for the ages,” or “life changing” as none of the above.

My ex was really into A Course in Miracles, which I tried to read and could not take at all seriously. It was BS. We went to some discussion groups about it. There were people there who genuinely believed it to be Jesus’ own words. After a while, I think even my ex realized it was all a lot of hoohah.

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wheat-dogg  May 13, 2018 • 5:07:27am

re: #37 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Day After was that 80’s TV drama that started to wake people up to the Madness of Mutually Assured Destruction, The Day After Tomorrow was a 2004 feature film about disastrous consequences of global warming.

I was just curious which one you were referring to.

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scottslemmons  May 13, 2018 • 6:01:31am

re: #32 Dr Lizardo

2012 was the best of them. Roger Ebert put it quite nicely:

He gave it three and a half out of four stars.

rogerebert.com

Never saw that movie, but thought this looked like a great scene.

Raising 2012

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 13, 2018 • 6:04:11am

Well, this video suggestion popped up in Alerts on my iPad this morning:

THE EARTH IS FLAT! (1000% PROOF)

Think I’m in love.

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jeffreyw  May 13, 2018 • 6:19:28am

Good morning!

Imgur

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I cannot.  May 13, 2018 • 6:21:54am

re: #41 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Dear god. That music.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 6:28:08am

Flat Earthing is a case where Poe’s Law is writ big: you cannot tell when people are just putting on an elaborate piss-take because they like getting a reaction out of people (which in itself might be an enormous piss-take).

As long as these people are not promoted to positions of authority at NASA, (as has happened at NOAA or USGS and DOE with creationists and AGW deniers)…

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 13, 2018 • 6:38:35am

re: #43 I cannot.

Dear god. That music.

Inorite. Chubby white guys rapping — nothing good can come from it.

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wheat-dogg  May 13, 2018 • 6:52:20am

re: #41 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I like her.

The two dudes trying to rap, not so much.

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wheat-dogg  May 13, 2018 • 6:55:41am

re: #45 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Inorite. Chubby white guys rapping — nothing good can come from it.

Cultural appropriation gone horribly wrong.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 13, 2018 • 7:04:08am

HAPPY MOTHER’S DAY LIZARDIA!
Let me recount the Mother’s Day loot.
Son #5 sent a bouquet of flowers last week (before the price went up)
Son #2 send a gif of a flower bouquet on WhatsApp
Daughter #3 send “Happy Mothers Day!” in a text message
Son #4 send “hmd” in a text message.

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 13, 2018 • 7:06:38am

re: #48 The Vicious Babushka

HAPPY MOTHER’S DAY LIZARDIA!
Let me recount the Mother’s Day loot.
Son #5 sent a bouquet of flowers last week (before the price went up)
Son #2 send a gif of a flower bouquet on WhatsApp
Daughter #3 send “Happy Mothers Day!” in a text message
Son #4 send “hmd” in a text message.

Obviously son # 5 is the wise one.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 13, 2018 • 7:13:51am

Son #1 “Happy Mother’s Day!” text message

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I cannot.  May 13, 2018 • 7:15:00am

re: #49 I Would Prefer Not To

Son #2…probly gets a gif of challah bread in reply

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The Vicious Babushka  May 13, 2018 • 7:15:26am

Son #6 “happy mother’s day” text message

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PhillyPretzel  May 13, 2018 • 7:17:25am

How to show your mother you really love her, send her a text message. This is the future of holiday greetings. Happy Mother’s Day to all of the LGF mothers and their families.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 13, 2018 • 7:22:00am

Son #6 sent me a Swarovski crystal bird for Passover because he knows that I like to collect bird tchotchkas.

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William Lewis  May 13, 2018 • 7:22:36am

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

That’s pretty!

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mmmirele  May 13, 2018 • 7:24:17am

re: #54 The Vicious Babushka

I can only echo what William said: that’s pretty!

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The Vicious Babushka  May 13, 2018 • 7:24:48am

I sent my youngest daughter some cookbooks for Mother’s Day that she hinted she wanted (i.e. sent me Amazon links) so the pie tradition can continue.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 13, 2018 • 7:26:52am

Son #3 and Daughter #2 are coming for the holiday next week (Shavuot) so I’m baking vegan challah for my daughter-in-law.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 7:29:45am

I got yer motherf… right here, you pissed-off looking moron.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 7:30:31am

re: #41 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Well, this video suggestion popped up in Alerts on my iPad this morning:
Think I’m in love.

My wife frequently converses with Jacklyn Glenn. I’ll have my wife pass along your declaration to her if you wish. /s

“Militant atheists” (that is, those of us who speak up for our rights) are a rather small group, so we have this secret cabal where we all talk with each other. /s

Miss Glenn’s father is actually a gospel singer. They’ve done a number of videos together of music, as Jacklyn is quite a good singer (she used to sing gospel music with him).

She does parodies of religious contemporary music, such as this:

Charlie Puth - “One Call Away” PARODY - One Prayer Away

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steve_davis  May 13, 2018 • 7:30:35am

re: #23 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

this is another basic flaw in education, along with failing to teach the scientific method, the historical method or basic civics, namely that we do not explain the difference between literary genres: the difference between a work of science or history, a textbook, a biography, a testament or a work of fiction.

There are people who really take works of historical or even speculative fiction as history.

Not to mention people who take the Old Testament as a science and history textbook.

And as much as i enjoyed The Man in the High Castle (both novel and TV series), it was more a work on the mutable nature of reality than alternate history: Japan never intended to nor was it in any position to occupy the USA except perhaps Hawaii, they just wanted access to oil and other resources.

And World War Z (he novel, not the god-awful film) is not so much a zombie story but a parable about how humanity almost always falls flat on its face when dealing with a crisis: first by ignoring it, then denying, it, then trying to cover it up, all of which make it even worse so that when it really breaks out, we are totally unprepared for it.

I now confess that I actually kind of enjoyed the movie. I mean, I always find the cgi in those movies dreadful. (They’re zombies! They didn’t suddenly gain the ability to climb Jerusalem’s fucking security wall, for crying out loud).

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PhillyPretzel  May 13, 2018 • 7:31:10am

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

If I were a mom I would not want a greeting from that person.

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Patricia Kayden  May 13, 2018 • 7:32:28am

re: #45 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Inorite. Chubby white guys rapping — nothing good can come from it.

lol! It’s not that bad. Reminds me of the Beastie Boys.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 7:33:57am

re: #62 PhillyPretzel

If I were a mom I would not want a greeting from that person.

He has obvious problems reading the teleprompter and there is absolutely nothing resembling happiness or sincerity in his expression. Matter of fact, he looks like he’s ready to spit and start hitting people.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 13, 2018 • 7:35:08am

Son #1 send a bunch of flower emojis in a text message.
Daughter #2 send “Happy mother’s day!” in a text message.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 7:35:31am

re: #61 steve_davis

I now confess that I actually kind of enjoyed the movie. I mean, I always find the cgi in those movies dreadful. (They’re zombies! They didn’t suddenly gain the ability to climb Jerusalem’s fucking security wall, for crying out loud).

It has almost nothing to do with the book except the title and the zombies

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 7:38:00am

Chain saws starting up again in town … Mother’s Day, the day you send Mom out to clean up from a tornado.

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Belafon  May 13, 2018 • 7:38:35am

I broke a leg for my wife and mom. :) Top that.

Before this had happened, I went to the store and got flowers and cards for both of them. The card I got for my wife was from the dad. One of the quotes in it was “Do I have to pick up the kids?” The fact that it’s me whining will fit right in.

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jaunte  May 13, 2018 • 7:41:23am

Happy Mother’s Day to all the LGF mothers. If you’re a Netflix subscriber, I recommend Bob Odenkirk’s small comedy Girlfriend’s Day.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 7:42:35am

re: #65 The Vicious Babushka

Son #1 send a bunch of flower emojis in a text message.
Daughter #2 send “Happy mother’s day!” in a text message.

Well, you got more than I did for Mother’s Day. /s

Happy Mom’s Day to everyone who is a mother, might be a mother, has a mother, might know a mother, &c at LGF.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 7:48:45am

The Flat Earthers are the real conspirators. Everyone knows that Earth is a cube.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 7:53:21am
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I Would Prefer Not To  May 13, 2018 • 7:54:47am

We should make all our life decisions at the age of 4.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 7:54:51am

re: #41 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Well, this video suggestion popped up in Alerts on my iPad this morning:

Think I’m in love.

My wife just told her of you being smitten with Miss Glenn. You’ll probably have to take a number though.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 7:54:54am

Like being a mommy is NOTHING like having a job…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 7:56:48am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 7:57:37am

re: #73 I Would Prefer Not To

We should make all our life decisions at the age of 4.

“I’m only gonna eat ice cream when I grow up!!!”

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 7:57:44am

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

Like being a mommy is NOTHING like having a job…

Especially when you have a job and are a mommy at the same time.

My mother says since before she entered school (so four maybe?) she wanted to join the Navy. She did.

I ruined her career, since back then if a woman became pregnant, over the quarterdeck you went.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 7:59:43am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 8:01:20am

No, you moron.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 8:01:44am

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

The Flat Earthers are the real conspirators. Everyone knows that Earth is a cube.

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 8:02:48am

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dude stop using your daughter that way. No liberal is against women being mothers if they want to be. It’s about choice.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 8:02:49am

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

I asked my 4-year-old daughter this morning whether she thought it would be more fun to have a job or be a mommy. She said, “To be a mommy, so I can cuddle my babies.” Clearly, she has already been victimized by the patriarchy.

If you believe in a patriarchal society in which having babies and having a job are mutually exclusive…

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 13, 2018 • 8:02:54am

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹

My wife just told her of you being smitten with Miss Glenn. You’ll probably have to take a number though.

I am a patient man.

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jaunte  May 13, 2018 • 8:03:26am

Bizarro World Sunday

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 8:03:29am

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

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No, you moron.

Uh no. Maybe if you left your safe space, you’d see otherwise.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 13, 2018 • 8:03:32am
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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 8:03:58am

re: #85 jaunte

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Bizarro World Sunday

They’re going to get played big time or already have.

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 8:04:12am

re: #87 The Vicious Babushka

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Boom!

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 8:06:43am

My niece is Ben’s daughter’s age. My brother teased me by saying I was a mommy too and she laughed at that. I’m sure Ben’s daughter wants to be a mother. Little kids like that can be very nurturing but it says a lot that Ben used a cute quip by her to bitch about liberals but as VB said he did spend her birth bitching about Obama on Twitter.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 8:07:12am

re: #85 jaunte

Bizarro World Sunday

No kidding. In what world does the DPRK’s statements such as “we’re going to rain nuclear fire upon your country” constitute “the interests of the American people?”

Perhaps Mr. Pompeo is jealous of Kim Jong-Un’s dictatorial powers, such as shooting political enemies with an anti-aircraft gun?

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Dr Lizardo  May 13, 2018 • 8:08:49am

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m pretty damn certain the USA isn’t mentioned anywhere in Revelations.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 8:10:06am

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

“We are now respected, we are now feared, we are now beloved because of this president.”

Fear is what drives conservatives.

I don’t want to live in a nation where other nations “fear us.” The second they stop fearing us, we’re done.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 13, 2018 • 8:11:33am

Good morning Lizards.

Moved the cats to the new apartment this morning. The Feline Overlords are not pleased. Two are still hiding under the bed. The third is exploring the place, but growling and hissing a lot in displeasure. (Not that any of this is going to get me to move them back.)

Just need a cup of coffee and I am ready to start commenting
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The Vicious Babushka  May 13, 2018 • 8:12:26am

Daughter #2 and Son #3 just called on the phone, in addition to the text messages they sent earlier.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 13, 2018 • 8:14:04am

re: #62 PhillyPretzel

If I were a mom I would not want a greeting from that person.

From a man that raped the mother of one of his sons? His tongue should catch fire just trying to say it.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 8:14:37am

re: #87 The Vicious Babushka

Shapiro is still spewing conservaderp:

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JordanRules  May 13, 2018 • 8:16:01am

re: #63 Patricia Kayden

lol! It’s not that bad. Reminds me of the Beastie Boys.

Oh no. Please don’t disrespect the Beastie Boys this fine Sunday morning. LOL

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 8:16:13am

moron has no freaking idea how things work in real life

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 8:16:22am

re: #97 Anymouse 🌹

Shapiro is still spewing conservaderp:

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He thinks he’s funny. Ben, we liberals love our mothers too. Stop being a pedantic douchebag for once and gtf up.

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PhillyPretzel  May 13, 2018 • 8:16:52am

re: #94 Feline Fearless Leader

Le Chat Noir does not look happy. It always takes time for cats to get used to a new place.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 8:17:09am

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

President Xi of China, and I, are working together to give massive Chinese phone company, ZTE, a way to get back into business, fast. Too many jobs in China lost. Commerce Department has been instructed to get it done!

He is concerned with creating jobs in China?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 8:17:28am

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is concerned with creating jobs in China?

inorite???!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 8:18:14am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 8:19:11am
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JordanRules  May 13, 2018 • 8:19:25am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 8:19:51am
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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 8:19:54am

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s not clever at all. He conflates the opposition to seeing women only as mothers as opposition to motherhood itself. Way to use that Ivy League education Ben!

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 13, 2018 • 8:20:32am

re: #101 PhillyPretzel

Le Chat Noir does not look happy. It always takes time for cats to get used to a new place.

He at least is looking around. The other two went from the carriers to under the bed and have not come out yet. (Oh wait. Tuxedo Cat sighting… and two of them are now growling at each other.) All of them a bit on edge. But that’s not really surprising given the level of disruption.

Plan for the day is to hang around, unload boxes, and keep an eye on them. They don’t get access to the basement for a few days either.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 8:20:52am
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Feline Fearless Leader  May 13, 2018 • 8:21:12am

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is concerned with creating jobs in China?

He (and/or friends) probably own stock in ZTE.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 8:24:00am
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Patricia Kayden  May 13, 2018 • 8:24:38am

re: #98 JordanRules

Oh no. Please don’t disrespect the Beastie Boys this fine Sunday morning. LOL

Sorry. Only knew their “Fight for the Right to Party” song.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 13, 2018 • 8:26:13am

re: #101 PhillyPretzel

Le Chat Noir does not look happy. It always takes time for cats to get used to a new place.

Every cat is different. When we had to move three times in four years, our cats (who had never known any other home) reacted completely differently. Pumpkin (R.I.P.) was like transplanting a cactus. He was totally opposed to change of any kind. Killer, OTOH, as long as his folks (of whatever species they may be) are there, he couldn’t care less where he is.

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JordanRules  May 13, 2018 • 8:26:50am

re: #59 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I got yer motherf… right here, you pissed-off looking moron.

The anti-moron!

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JordanRules  May 13, 2018 • 8:27:38am

re: #114 Patricia Kayden

Sorry. Only knew their “Fight for the Right to Party” song.

All good! Just messing with ya! ;)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 8:27:41am

Ah memories of Pitt in the Mid 70’s when WDVE in Pittsburgh celebrated Mother’s Day by only playing Frank Zappa’s records…

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Patricia Kayden  May 13, 2018 • 8:28:51am

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

Who is she to determine who gets to come into this country? We need an immigration process which doesn’t discriminate based on irrelevant factors. There are probably millions of migrants who came here with little or no education and who couldn’t speak English but have gone on to become great Americans and better citizens than Tammy and her bigoted ilk.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 8:29:04am
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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 8:29:43am

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ignorant idiot has no idea about how most European Americans got here.

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 8:29:59am

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He won’t.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 8:30:46am

re: #116 JordanRules

The anti-moron!

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A Mom Anon  May 13, 2018 • 8:32:20am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 8:33:24am

O_o

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 8:33:51am

“Skilled” people weren’t leaving for America because life was better at home but poor peasant tenant farmers like my family yeah they left. Tomi really should read a history book. This is stuff you learn about in middle school or if you’re like me from our grandparents or even parents.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 8:35:50am
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William Lewis  May 13, 2018 • 8:37:10am

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

The Flat Earthers are the real conspirators. Everyone knows that Earth is a cube.

Time Cube!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 8:37:26am

really excellent video of mammatus clouds.

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 8:37:30am

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Remember when you weren’t a grandstanding hack? Oh wait.

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Patricia Kayden  May 13, 2018 • 8:37:37am

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

Has Graham ever voted against anything Trump has proposed? He needs to shut up and stop acting as if he opposes Trump on any issue. Can’t stand him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 8:38:27am
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meteor  May 13, 2018 • 8:38:55am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 8:39:56am

re: #126 HappyWarrior

“Skilled” people weren’t leaving for America because life was better at home but poor peasant tenant farmers like my family yeah they left. Tomi really should read a history book. This is stuff you learn about in middle school or if you’re like me from our grandparents or even parents.

my grandparents were all sent over from europe around 1900 as children to stay with relatives because their families could not afford to keep them.

DACA doodle doo

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Patricia Kayden  May 13, 2018 • 8:41:16am

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

Awwwww. Michelle looks pretty much the same.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 8:41:17am
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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 8:42:27am
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jaunte  May 13, 2018 • 8:42:32am

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ben loves a rousing celebration of Straw Woman Day.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 8:44:07am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 13, 2018 • 8:44:42am

re: #138 Anymouse 🌹

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Just to be clear, if you carefully removed, and laid end-to-end, all the veins, arteries, and capillaries of your body, you will die.

Jeez, Neil—that joke’s older than you are!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 8:45:19am
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MsJ  May 13, 2018 • 8:45:36am

re: #141 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Jeez, Neil—that joke’s older than you are!

Made me LMAO. 🤣😂

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Unshaken Defiance  May 13, 2018 • 8:46:10am

re: #127 Teukka

Did this get posted today?

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There are not even close to enough nopes for that. All memes are inadequate.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 8:46:19am
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Danack  May 13, 2018 • 8:48:11am

re: #32 Dr Lizardo

2012 was the best of them. Roger Ebert put it quite nicely:

He gave it three and a half out of four stars.

rogerebert.com

This remixed trailer for 2012, done in the style of 1970’s movies is one of the best trailers ever: 2012: THIS IS A DISASTER

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 8:48:15am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 8:49:25am
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stpaulbear  May 13, 2018 • 8:51:47am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 13, 2018 • 8:52:05am

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

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JordanRules  May 13, 2018 • 8:54:17am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 13, 2018 • 8:55:34am
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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 8:55:43am

re: #151 JordanRules

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Don’t like Nichols but this is spot on.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 13, 2018 • 8:55:51am

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Teukka  May 13, 2018 • 9:01:19am

re: #152 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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Only thing worse than a Trinidad Scorpion is a Carolina Reaper, which has been described as “having a fruity taste, with the initial bite being sweet and then immediately turning to molten lava”

Poor sod ._.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 13, 2018 • 9:03:38am

re: #149 stpaulbear

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What drove me crazy about the 2012 hysteria was the “End of the Mayan Calendar” bullshit. No, it was the end of the 13th baktun, and the beginning of the 14th. Oooh, scary!

From:

To:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 9:04:13am

re: #152 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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Video

I tried that once with a habanero, reaction was much the same. I got stoned from the endorphine rush, was really just sitting there smiling and drooling like a junkie

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 9:04:59am

A Tesla Model S sedan equipped with a semi-autonomous Autopilot system plowed into a truck stopped at a Utah traffic light Friday night, though it remains unknown if the Autopilot was in use during the crash.

The Tesla’s female driver suffered a broken ankle and there was extensive damage to the car, according to police. Authorities are still investigating and have contacted the National Transportation Safety Board, The Associated Press reported.

Tesla’s Autopilot system uses cameras and computers to regulate speed, change lanes and automatically stop cars. But drivers are instructed to keep their hands on the wheel and their eyes and attention on the road. (more)

huffingtonpost.com

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JordanRules  May 13, 2018 • 9:05:17am

re: #152 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I can’t believe he went for that 2nd bite. Ouch!

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Unshaken Defiance  May 13, 2018 • 9:06:27am

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The mask fell clear to the floor today.

Sorry had to delete and put up an edited tweet

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 9:08:41am

re: #152 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve seen folks who insist on getting the hottest chicken from Howling Ray’s in Los Angeles. On weekends, the line wait is 3 hours long!

eater.com

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 9:09:09am

re: #152 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

My wife makes hot sauce and salsa from ghost peppers, but they are dried so they lose some punch.

When I’m canning her salsa though, the fumes get so bad in the house you have to open all the windows and doors to try to get air through.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 9:13:03am

re: #162 Anymouse 🌹

My wife makes hot sauce and salsa from ghost peppers, but they are dried so they lose some punch.

When I’m canning her salsa though, the fumes get so bad in the house you have to open all the windows and doors to try to get air through.

and I learned that you must wash your hands BEFORE going to the restroom, and not try to wipe your eyes…

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Unshaken Defiance  May 13, 2018 • 9:14:19am

re: #158 Anymouse 🌹

Wired has taken this topic on again given the release of a recent big study about soaring pedestrian fatalities. SUV’s are more likely to kill. 40 mph vs 30 mph is 5.5 times more likely to kill a pedestrian when struck. Crosswalks are too far apart on large boulevards, thus encouraging jaywalking. All of those things can be fixed for a lot less than automating the cars.

Those things don’t decouple the driver from situational awareness like automation does. Which gets to my objection.

wired.com

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jaunte  May 13, 2018 • 9:14:27am
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Teukka  May 13, 2018 • 9:14:36am

re: #163 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and I learned that you must wash your hands BEFORE going to the restroom, and not try to wipe your eyes…

The hard way?

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Dr Lizardo  May 13, 2018 • 9:14:40am

re: #146 Danack

Brilliant.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 13, 2018 • 9:14:41am

re: #163 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and I learned that you must wash your hands BEFORE going to the restroom, and not try to wipe your eyes…

That’s true even with peperoncinis. Trust me.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 9:15:31am

If they start doing this crap at the Veterans Administration, I’m going to have to figure out a way to get medical care somewhere else on my tiny budget. The VA has always made a point of not displaying any news channels (or in the case of State Media, propaganda) because it upsets patients.

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William Lewis  May 13, 2018 • 9:18:46am

My local VA clinic has the Weather Channel on.

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JordanRules  May 13, 2018 • 9:19:29am
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PhillyPretzel  May 13, 2018 • 9:19:36am

re: #169 Anymouse 🌹

re: #170 William Lewis

Psst. PBS is the best. Pass it on.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 13, 2018 • 9:22:16am

re: #169 Anymouse 🌹

If they start doing this crap at the Veterans Administration, I’m going to have to figure out a way to get medical care somewhere else on my tiny budget. The VA has always made a point of not displaying any news channels (or in the case of State Media, propaganda) because it upsets patients.

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When they start yelling: “Keep the government’s hands off my V.A. benefits!”, you’ll know it worked.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 9:23:23am

re: #166 Teukka

The hard way?

roommates had to take me upstairs and rinse my eyes out with contact solution

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 9:25:26am

re: #171 JordanRules

The World’s Worst Wax Museum

is there such a thing as a canny valley?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 13, 2018 • 9:26:42am
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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 9:27:53am

re: #164 Unshaken Defiance

Wired has taken this topic on again given the release of a recent big study about soaring pedestrian fatalities. SUV’s are more likely to kill. 40 mph vs 30 mph is 5.5 times more likely to kill a pedestrian when struck. Crosswalks are too far apart on large boulevards, thus encouraging jaywalking. All of those things can be fixed for a lot less than automating the cars.

Those things don’t decouple the driver from situational awareness like automation does. Which gets to my objection.

wired.com

Scottsbluff slowed its traffic down by doing some of the things traffic engineers suggest: cutting lanes, adding barriers at the corners, putting up radar speed limit signs along the main streets (your speed is X), &c.

The state sent a suggestion to our village board that it would like to raise the speed limit on Guthrie St (US-26) from 35 to 50 mph. We cordially voted that suggestion down (since pedestrians cross that street at two crosswalks), and invited them instead to reduce the speed limit to 25 and install a pedestrian traffic light.

(Let’s see about conservatives and their ad copy about “local control” by local governments. I’ll bet they reject our request to reduce the speed limit in town. We are not allowed to set the speed limit on US-26 or NE-92. Village streets are 20 mph.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 9:28:55am

re: #176 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“What Chairman Kim will get from America is our finest. Our entrepreneurs. Our risk takers. Our capital providers. Not our taxpayers,” Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told Face The Nation

wow. creating jobs for North Koreans and Chinese, ruining US businesses with import tariffs and cancelled visas and they still vote for him

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jaunte  May 13, 2018 • 9:30:44am
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BigPapa  May 13, 2018 • 9:35:37am

re: #179 jaunte

Hikvision, huge maker of cameras, 42% ownership by Chinese government.

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Targetpractice  May 13, 2018 • 9:37:00am

re: #165 jaunte

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In the same interview, he declared that fucking over our European allies, including throwing sanctions on them for continuing to work with Iran on the nuclear deal, was alright because we’ve got Israel and the various monarchies of the Middle East on our side.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 9:43:34am

re: #165 jaunte

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Watch what happens when Europe imposes sanctions on us…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 9:44:44am

re: #182 Joe Bacon 🌹

Watch what happens when Europe imposes sanctions on us…

The Dollar will be under a lot of pressure if it is no longer the universal reserve currency…

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Jay C  May 13, 2018 • 9:44:47am

re: #179 jaunte

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OK, so “CIA, FBI and NSA say don’t buy smartphones from Huawei or ZTE

Wonder how long it will take some wingnut site to start bleating about “Deep State Conspiracy!!!1!!!11!??

Seriously, this is the Admin’s big PR push in front of the BFD “Korea Summit”?? Bolton disparaging the need for preparation, while Pompeo seems to be talking up, what? Business opportunities in North Korea? WTF are those “entrepreneurs” gonna entreprene in a totalitarian Communist basket-case-economy like NK? Or are these “opportunities” going to be some sort of front for paying off L’il Kim’s nuclear blackmail?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 9:46:30am

re: #183 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Dollar will be under a lot of pressure if it is no longer the universal reserve currency…

I’ve been predicting that the rest of the world is going to dump the dollar as the reserve currency AND they will no longer buy our Treasury securities to finance our out of control deficits.

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jaunte  May 13, 2018 • 9:48:20am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 9:52:18am

re: #185 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’ve been predicting that the rest of the world is going to dump the dollar as the reserve currency AND they will no longer buy our Treasury securities to finance our out of control deficits.

If Trump insists on sanctioning European banks over Iran, they are all but asking for it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 9:54:16am

From Anne Applebaum today in the Washington Post, documenting the decline of the American Empire:

In retrospect, the era of American hegemony — the moment of the “sole superpower,” when the United States was the “essential” country — was remarkably brief. It began in 1991, with the collapse of the Soviet Union, probably peaked just before 9/11, and for the past decade — under Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama — it has been drawing slowly and unevenly to an end. Even while it lasted, this hegemony was partly a game of smoke and mirrors. It depended on perceptions: belief in American wealth, fear of American military power, admiration for American values. It depended on the absence of opponents: the collapse of the Soviet Union, the relative weakness of China.

Perhaps unexpectedly, Trump’s abrupt withdrawal from the Iran nuclear deal exposed America’s weak hand. For we left — but then what? In different circumstances — after negotiations, after obtaining proof that Iran was in violation of the deal — it might have been possible to recreate the international coalition that imposed sanctions so successfully in the first place. In different circumstances, it might also have been possible to change the deal: That’s what the French president and German chancellor were offering during their recent visits to Washington, though their efforts were rebuffed. In different circumstances, it might even have been possible to threaten Iran militarily — not a position I advocate, but I can imagine how it could be done.

Instead, we are now in the worst of all possible worlds. We have broken the agreement with Iran, but we are unable to impose a new sanctions regime in its place. Instead of making a diplomatic investment, we are shouting and barking orders. Just after Trump’s announcement, the American ambassador to Germany issued a threat on Twitter: “German companies doing business in Iran should wind down operations immediately.” As a result, European leaders are not talking about Iran. They are talking about how they can protect their companies from American sanctions, and how they might retaliate.

washingtonpost.com

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 13, 2018 • 9:58:47am

re: #184 Jay C

OK, so “CIA, FBI and NSA say don’t buy smartphones from Huawei or ZTE

Wonder how long it will take some wingnut site to start bleating about “Deep State Conspiracy!!!1!!!11!??

Seriously, this is the Admin’s big PR push in front of the BFD “Korea Summit”?? Bolton disparaging the need for preparation, while Pompeo seems to be talking up, what? Business opportunities in North Korea? WTF are those “entrepreneurs” gonna entreprene in a totalitarian Communist basket-case-economy like NK? Or are these “opportunities” going to be some sort of front for paying off L’il Kim’s nuclear blackmail?

All the Democratic Senators should send a letter to Kim saying that any agreement he signs isn’t worth the paper it’s written on, because as soon as the GOP is out of power, they’ll toss it out.

How do you suppose that’d go over?

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Dave In Austin  May 13, 2018 • 9:59:38am

Still makes me smile because of course you would.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 10:00:41am

re: #189 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

All the Democratic Senators should send a letter to Kim saying that any agreement he signs isn’t worth the paper it’s written on, because as soon as the GOP is out of power, they’ll toss it out.

How do you suppose that’d go over?

Treason!!!

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Jay C  May 13, 2018 • 10:02:12am

re: #184 Jay C

OK: a slightly better-fleshed-out synopsis of Sec’y Pompeo’s “business plans” re NK: (from BBC)

The US may allow private companies to invest in North Korea, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said on Sunday.

In an interview on Fox News, he clarified that this would be conditional on the country’s full denuclearisation.

He said US investors could help build its energy grid.

This comes after his trip to Pyongyang last week and ahead of President Donald Trump’s meeting with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un in Singapore.

The US announced its offer to help rebuild the North Korean economy on Friday, but Mr Pompeo has now given more details on the proposal.

“This will be Americans coming in - private sector Americans, not the US taxpayer - private sector Americans coming in to help build out the energy grid. They need enormous amounts of electricity in North Korea,” he said.

He also suggested agricultural investment, so North Koreans “can eat meat and have healthy lives”.

I dunno: maybe it’s just general Trump Cynicism, but I’m still not seeing what the attraction is going to be for investment in NK, and how American (vs., say, South Korean or Chinese) businesses are going to be able to get a good-enough deal without some sort of government (ours) guarantee. Am I missing something here?

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Targetpractice  May 13, 2018 • 10:02:51am

Considering how he’s been stacking sacked staff like cord wood for over a year, the idea that Donny can successfully size up Kim at these talks and determine if he’s being truthful is absolutely hysterical. Everybody in the entire fucking administration argues they had no idea that Flynn was lying to them about calling Russia, BUT Cheeto Benito is gonna walk into these talks and size up Kim right away.

It’s getting harder to type with all these tears in my eyes from laughing.

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 10:03:55am

Okay so lemme get this straight. The Trump administration is going to tear up the Iranian Deal and allow private companies to invest in NK. And these are the same people who condemned Obama’s Cuba policy too.

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Targetpractice  May 13, 2018 • 10:04:21am

re: #192 Jay C

OK: a slightly better-fleshed-out synopsis of Sec’y Pompeo’s “business plans” re NK: (from BBC)

I dunno: maybe it’s just general Trump Cynicism, but I’m still not seeing what the attraction is going to be for investment in NK, and how American (vs., say, South Korean or Chinese) businesses are going to be able to get a good-enough deal without some sort of government (ours) guarantee. Am I missing something here?

Personally, I’m just shaking my head at how Republicans will not be stuck arguing that US businesses “investing’ in NK is a-okay because they’re now our “friends,” but despite the thawing of relations we still can’t trust the Cubans not to just grab up any investments and thus must maintain the embargo.

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Eventual Carrion  May 13, 2018 • 10:04:26am

re: #189 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

All the Democratic Senators should send a letter to Kim saying that any agreement he signs isn’t worth the paper it’s written on, because as soon as the GOP is out of power, they’ll toss it out.

How do you suppose that’d go over?

I think they should take the letter the repubs sent and just change the country names and relevant specific information but leave all other wording the same.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 10:04:52am

re: #193 Targetpractice

Considering how he’s been stacking sacked staff like cord wood for over a year, the idea that Donny can successfully size up Kim at these talks and determine if he’s being truthful is absolutely hysterical…

These are all matters of faith that only make sense to the faithful

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 10:05:00am

re: #192 Jay C

OK: a slightly better-fleshed-out synopsis of Sec’y Pompeo’s “business plans” re NK: (from BBC)

I dunno: maybe it’s just general Trump Cynicism, but I’m still not seeing what the attraction is going to be for investment in NK, and how American (vs., say, South Korean or Chinese) businesses are going to be able to get a good-enough deal without some sort of government (ours) guarantee. Am I missing something here?

I’m not either. Maybe Trump wants a hotel in Pyongyang.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 13, 2018 • 10:05:27am

re: #156 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

What drove me crazy about the 2012 hysteria was the “End of the Mayan Calendar” bullshit. No, it was the end of the 13th baktun, and the beginning of the 14th. Oooh, scary!

From:

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I used to joke about that, when they finally deciphered the last part it said “Start carving another calendar’

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plansbandc  May 13, 2018 • 10:05:30am

Computer died again, lemon, new computer. Left my new movie in old computer and now it’s gone forever. Ordered another copy.

Christ I’m old and senile.

Sigh.

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 10:05:35am

re: #195 Targetpractice

Personally, I’m just shaking my head at how Republicans will not be stuck arguing that US businesses “investing’ in NK is a-okay because they’re now our “friends,” but despite the thawing of relations we still can’t trust the Cubans not to just grab up any investments and thus must maintain the embargo.

Yep makes no sense at all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 10:05:45am

re: #198 HappyWarrior

I’m not either. Maybe Trump wants a hotel in Pyongyang.

Coming: The Kimchee Fart Tapes…

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 10:06:31am

re: #202 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Coming: The Kimchee Fart Tapes…

Sounds painful but you know Trump would only eat kimchi with ketchup.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 13, 2018 • 10:06:58am
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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 10:08:56am

re: #204 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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That’s literally how our country was built but I can’t expect Tomi to know actual history.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 13, 2018 • 10:09:01am

re: #199 Unshaken Defiance

I used to joke about that, when they finally deciphered the last part it said “Start carving another calendar’

“We’re gonna need more walls”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 13, 2018 • 10:09:07am

re: #152 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

His mistake wasn’t “my mistake was to swallow it” —his mistake was sticking it in his mouth and then chewing on it.

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Targetpractice  May 13, 2018 • 10:09:16am

re: #189 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

All the Democratic Senators should send a letter to Kim saying that any agreement he signs isn’t worth the paper it’s written on, because as soon as the GOP is out of power, they’ll toss it out.

How do you suppose that’d go over?

Better: Send them a letter saying any agreement made with Trump must be in the form of a treaty and must be submitted to the Senate for ratification, otherwise it is worthless and will be abrogated the moment a Dem is in the White House. The following mass whiplash suffered by the GOP will be gloriously hilarious.

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Targetpractice  May 13, 2018 • 10:10:06am

re: #204 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I’m still partial to “White Power Barbie.”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 13, 2018 • 10:10:23am

re: #199 Unshaken Defiance

I used to joke about that, when they finally deciphered the last part it said “Start carving another calendar’

After October 12, 4772 = 19.19.19.17.19 9 Kawak 12 Yaxk’in, when there’s no larger unit than a baktun to go to, we’ll see what happens.

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Jay C  May 13, 2018 • 10:11:46am

re: #210 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

After October 12, 4772 = 19.19.19.17.19 9 Kawak 12 Yaxk’in, when there’s no larger unit than a baktun to go to, we’ll see what happens.

OK, we’ll mark our calendars….

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Ace-o-aces  May 13, 2018 • 10:12:04am

Joey is confused.

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Targetpractice  May 13, 2018 • 10:12:08am

re: #210 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

After October 12, 4772 = 19.19.19.17.19 9 Kawak 12 Yaxk’in, when there’s no larger unit than a baktun to go to, we’ll see what happens.

In the year 2525…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 13, 2018 • 10:17:52am

re: #210 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

After October 12, 4772 = 19.19.19.17.19 9 Kawak 12 Yaxk’in, when there’s no larger unit than a baktun to go to, we’ll see what happens.

re: #213 Targetpractice

In the year 2525…

In the year 4545
You ain’t gonna need your teeth, won’t need your eyes
You won’t find a thing to chew
Nobody’s gonna look at you

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 13, 2018 • 10:19:11am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 13, 2018 • 10:19:57am

BTW, the Mayan calendar calculator is halfway down this page.

ancientscripts.com is apparently offline, so I had to go to the Wayback Machine. I couldn’t believe the embedded calculator still worked!

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 10:23:02am

re: #212 Ace-o-aces

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Joey is confused.

What the.

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Ace-o-aces  May 13, 2018 • 10:24:46am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 13, 2018 • 10:25:22am

re: #215 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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When they quote something like a “Circular Error Probable” of 600 ft., that means over the very well-mapped gravitational anomalies from Vandenberg to Kwajalein. If they fire these missiles from anywhere else to anywhere else, they’re going to get a surprise. WTH is the point of “testing” missiles on the same trajectory all the time?

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Eventual Carrion  May 13, 2018 • 10:25:44am

re: #196 Eventual Carrion

I think they should take the letter the repubs sent and just change the country names and relevant specific information but leave all other wording the same.

An Open Letter to the Leader of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea:

It has come to our attention while observing your nuclear negotiations with our government that you may not fully understand our constitutional system. Thus, we are writing to bring to your attention two features of our Constitution—the power to make binding international agreements and the different character of federal offices—which you should seriously consider as negotiations progress.

First, under our Constitution, while the president negotiates international agreements, Congress plays the significant role of ratifying them. In the case of a treaty, the Senate must ratify it by a two-thirds vote. A so-called congressional-executive agreement requires a majority vote in both the House and the Senate (which, because of procedural rules, effectively means a three-fifths vote in the Senate). Anything not approved by Congress is a mere executive agreement.

Second, the offices of our Constitution have different characteristics. For example, the president may serve only two 4-year terms, whereas senators may serve an unlimited number of 6-year terms. As applied today, for instance, President Trump will leave office in ? 20??, while most of us will remain in office well beyond then—perhaps decades.

What these two constitutional provisions mean is that we will consider any agreement regarding your nuclear-weapons program that is not approved by the Congress as nothing more than an executive agreement between President Trump and Kim Jong-un.

The next president could revoke such an executive agreement with the stroke of a pen and future Congresses could modify the terms of the agreement at any time.
We hope this letter enriches your knowledge of our constitutional system and promotes mutual understanding and clarity as nuclear negotiations progress.

Sincerely,
Sane America

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KGxvi  May 13, 2018 • 10:25:48am

re: #217 HappyWarrior

What the.

that is someone reorganizing their world view in real time because his Dear Leader changed his mind.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 10:26:19am

re: #194 HappyWarrior

Okay so lemme get this straight. The Trump administration is going to tear up the Iranian Deal and allow private companies to invest in NK. And these are the same people who condemned Obama’s Cuba policy too.

This is what late-stage capitalism looks like. Hence the smash-and-grab on the US Treasury in the tax bill.

Democratic republics in history are rare, and easily broken when the voters get ideas other than protecting their democracy. The GOP has been working since Goldwater to enact policies which are economically damaging and racist. It is instructive to note that our economy almost always falters under conservative governance.

This is not new, which is why I find the litany of “I didn’t leave the GOP, they left me” so maddening. The GOP has been like this all my life.

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Targetpractice  May 13, 2018 • 10:27:27am

re: #220 Eventual Carrion

An Open Letter to the Leader of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea:

It has come to our attention while observing your nuclear negotiations with our government that you may not fully understand our constitutional system. Thus, we are writing to bring to your attention two features of our Constitution—the power to make binding international agreements and the different character of federal offices—which you should seriously consider as negotiations progress.

First, under our Constitution, while the president negotiates international agreements, Congress plays the significant role of ratifying them. In the case of a treaty, the Senate must ratify it by a two-thirds vote. A so-called congressional-executive agreement requires a majority vote in both the House and the Senate (which, because of procedural rules, effectively means a three-fifths vote in the Senate). Anything not approved by Congress is a mere executive agreement.

Second, the offices of our Constitution have different characteristics. For example, the president may serve only two 4-year terms, whereas senators may serve an unlimited number of 6-year terms. As applied today, for instance, President Trump will leave office in ? 20??, while most of us will remain in office well beyond then—perhaps decades.

What these two constitutional provisions mean is that we will consider any agreement regarding your nuclear-weapons program that is not approved by the Congress as nothing more than an executive agreement between President Trump and Kim Jong-un.

The next president could revoke such an executive agreement with the stroke of a pen and future Congresses could modify the terms of the agreement at any time.
We hope this letter enriches your knowledge of our constitutional system and promotes mutual understanding and clarity as nuclear negotiations progress.

Sincerely,
Sane America

Tehran Tom’s head would pop from the sheer level of hypocrisy.

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Dr Lizardo  May 13, 2018 • 10:27:45am

re: #212 Ace-o-aces

The Force cognitive dissonance is strong in this one.

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Dr Lizardo  May 13, 2018 • 10:30:03am

Hmmm…….I wonder what Mr. Avenatti is referring to here.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 10:30:58am

re: #221 KGxvi

that is someone reorganizing their world view in real time because his Dear Leader changed his mind.

Conservatism is a religion, and Trump is a cult leader.

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KGxvi  May 13, 2018 • 10:31:29am

re: #218 Ace-o-aces

I just figured it out… this administration is the guy in his first year of grad school that never had to study in high school or college, and for the first time in his life he’s matched against people as smart (or smarter) than him and he can’t just wing it and set the curve.

You either learn very quickly that you have to do things differently, or you crash and burn.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 13, 2018 • 10:31:32am

Facebook

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Ace-o-aces  May 13, 2018 • 10:32:03am
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KGxvi  May 13, 2018 • 10:34:41am

re: #229 Ace-o-aces

The golf course is central to the new Trump International Pyongyang Hotel and Golf Resort

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 13, 2018 • 10:35:17am
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ObserverArt  May 13, 2018 • 10:36:00am

re: #153 HappyWarrior

Don’t like Nichols but this is spot on.

Nichols whines about Trump, but what is he doing about him?

He has a bit of a platform to use to speak up. Does he?

He has conservative connections, start getting people talking about the rot in your party Tom. Then maybe when you cry about liberals being nothing but Trump haters you’ll understand why?

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Dave In Austin  May 13, 2018 • 10:37:10am

re: #231 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Teukka  May 13, 2018 • 10:41:37am

re: #225 Dr Lizardo

Hmmm…….I wonder what Mr. Avenatti is referring to here.

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Ha.

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jaunte  May 13, 2018 • 10:42:04am

I’m sure one feature of investing in North Korea that appeals to Trump is that they still have slave labor.

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 10:47:40am

re: #232 ObserverArt

Nichols whines about Trump, but what is he doing about him?

He has a bit of a platform to use to speak up. Does he?

He has conservative connections, start getting people talking about the rot in your party Tom. Then maybe when you cry about liberals being nothing but Trump haters you’ll understand why?

That’s a great question for sure. They wrongly expect us to bend our principles to acccomdate them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 10:47:55am

re: #192 Jay C

He said US investors could help build its energy grid.

NK’s energy grid is more important than Puerto Rico’s?

Fuck that bullshit

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Ace-o-aces  May 13, 2018 • 10:48:36am
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ObserverArt  May 13, 2018 • 10:52:54am

re: #225 Dr Lizardo

Hmmm…….I wonder what Mr. Avenatti is referring to here.

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Interesting. I’m thinking whoever the rather sullen, swarthy looking dudes in the elevator behind Cohen have something to do with it.

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Dr Lizardo  May 13, 2018 • 10:54:21am

re: #239 ObserverArt

Interesting. I;m thinking whoever the rather sullen, swarthy looking dudes in the elevator behind Cohen have something to do with it.

Could well be.

Gonna call it a day; have a good one, Lizards.

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ObserverArt  May 13, 2018 • 10:54:38am

re: #226 Anymouse 🌹

Conservatism is a religion, and Trump is a cult leader.

Trump may be the freakin’ anti-Christ that was always predicted to take over a powerful nation and wreak havoc on the world.

Yeah, I went there. Someone check the fucker for the mark of the beast…

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jaunte  May 13, 2018 • 10:56:00am

re: #241 ObserverArt

Under the hair sculpture.

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KGxvi  May 13, 2018 • 10:58:55am

re: #238 Ace-o-aces

In fairness, having a “job” does tend to suck. Having a particular kind of job, particularly if it’s something you love to do, could be amazing… but for most of us, work is something you can do so that you can do the stuff you actually love to do.

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jaunte  May 13, 2018 • 11:02:42am
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stpaulbear  May 13, 2018 • 11:06:03am

re: #238 Ace-o-aces

aceoaces
@aceoaces
His wife works as a doctor, so there may be some passive aggressive subtext here.

Interesting. So Ben is home with the daughter all day while the wife puts in long hours, and the daughter is still associating the mom with providing the love and affection. Ben must be a really shitty internet-addicted dad.

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Citizen K  May 13, 2018 • 11:07:32am

I almost hate to put it this way…but this somehow isn’t even the whitest thing to happen this week. But it’s still galling and a perfect case of folks being punished for existing while black:

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Ace Rothstein  May 13, 2018 • 11:07:45am

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 11:07:58am

re: #241 ObserverArt

Trump may be the freakin’ anti-Christ that was always predicted to take over a powerful nation and wreak havoc on the world.

Yeah, I went there. Someone check the fucker for the mark of the beast…

We already had the Antichrist in the Oval Office!

Ronald = 6
Wilson = 6
Reagan = 6

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BeachDem  May 13, 2018 • 11:09:21am

re: #225 Dr Lizardo

Hmmm…….I wonder what Mr. Avenatti is referring to here.

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What amazes me is that Avenatti has been on Twitter for 7+ years, has a total of 731 tweets, and has the attention of the world. Talk about economy of words!

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Charles Johnson  May 13, 2018 • 11:10:16am
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jaunte  May 13, 2018 • 11:11:34am
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Mattand  May 13, 2018 • 11:12:56am

So Republicans are talking about allowing trade with North Korea now? Jesus Christ, am I reading this right?

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ObserverArt  May 13, 2018 • 11:14:08am

re: #249 BeachDem

What amazes me is that Avenatti has been on Twitter for 7+ years, has a total of 731 tweets, and has the attention of the world. Talk about economy of words!

A sure display of how getting involved in such a case can elevate your career. There have been a few lawyers that have picked a case that might not bring the money but certainly brings the attention that brings the real money later.

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Charles Johnson  May 13, 2018 • 11:14:31am

Journalists on Twitter are getting all gushy about Trump’s Mother’s Day video. I can’t even.

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makeitstop  May 13, 2018 • 11:14:31am

re: #252 Mattand

So Republicans are talking about allowing trade with North Korea now? Jesus Christ, am I reading this right?

As someone pointed out nearly right away, NK is getting the Iran deal.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 11:15:46am

cbc.ca

Video of a racist tirade against three Afghani-Canadians by a woman from British Columbia in a Denny’s restaurant in Lethbridge, Alberta.

Huffington Post also has this article, but the video is taken by the men. The CBC’s is from a third party, and clearly shows the woman attempting to climb over her chair to assault the men and her husband restraining her.

The HuffPo CA article is full of American conservative commentators making excuses for her, bashing her employer (a car dealership) for firing her over the incident, claiming this is “mob justice” from liberals/multiculturalists (attacking Canadians defending the men) &c.

The HuffPo comments section is a Dumpster fire of American conservaderp, so I won’t link their article.

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BeachDem  May 13, 2018 • 11:15:54am

re: #242 jaunte

Under the hair sculpture.

We’ve pretty much seen what is under the hair sculpture.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 11:17:04am

re: #254 Charles Johnson

Journalists on Twitter are getting all gushy about Trump’s Mother’s Day video. I can’t even.

You have more reach with journalists than we do. Perhaps you might remind them Trump didn’t mention any of the multiple mothers of his children, Mr. Johnson.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 11:17:33am

re: #257 BeachDem

We’ve pretty much seen what is under the hair sculpture.

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Needs a Photoshop of a “666” on the scalp.

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Charles Johnson  May 13, 2018 • 11:23:46am
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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 11:25:20am

Betsy DeVos ends the group at the Department of Education that investigates for-profit schools for fraud.

nytimes.com

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Sea Mexican!  May 13, 2018 • 11:28:03am

Happy Mother’s Day to all the mothers!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 11:29:09am

re: #239 ObserverArt

Interesting. I’m thinking whoever the rather sullen, swarthy looking dudes in the elevator behind Cohen have something to do with it.

They are only there to discuss adoptions…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 11:43:08am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 11:45:02am

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

The mission of the United States Department of Commerce is to use American tax dollars to send jobs to China? You are full of surprises.

His people are already spinning this to present the reasons why this is good for American workers…

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PhillyPretzel  May 13, 2018 • 11:45:39am

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

Shaub is surprised? I am not. This is what DT has been doing all along. It is amazing that so many people have been taken in by a con-man.

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jaunte  May 13, 2018 • 11:47:32am
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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 11:49:45am

re: #267 jaunte

The mainstream media, held by corporations, has always been fixed on “conservative-normal, liberal-abberation.”

As Les Moonves of CBS noted, he didn’t think Trump would be good for America but would be good for CBS.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 11:52:25am

Checking in on Jim Wright to see what he thinks of this ZTE deal.

Yup, he’s pissed.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 13, 2018 • 11:52:46am

re: #267 jaunte

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I cannot.  May 13, 2018 • 11:55:09am

OK, I have FINALLY seen Avengers: Infinity War…I have problems.

First, the movie ended, which means the whole “Infinity War” thing was false advertising. I fell for it in Neverending Story, but I was 9 then.

Actual problems in spoil box.

1: The casualty count felt too high
2: EVERYTHING seemed to go Thanos’ way
3: It should be a trilogy…some stuff should have worked out for the heroes this time, Thanos wins in the middle of the second movie, and then the remainder start trying to fix it.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 11:55:24am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 12:00:09pm

re: #272 Anymouse 🌹

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the yam didn’t even free “hostages”.
they were prisoners.

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Charles Johnson  May 13, 2018 • 12:02:25pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 12:02:50pm
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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 12:03:07pm
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Charles Johnson  May 13, 2018 • 12:07:20pm
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Belafon  May 13, 2018 • 12:09:34pm

re: #271 I cannot.

OK, I have FINALLY seen Avengers: Infinity War…I have problems.

First, the movie ended, which means the whole “Infinity War” thing was false advertising. I fell for it in Neverending Story, but I was 9 then.

Actual problems in spoil box.

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Did you watch the credit scene?

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Charles Johnson  May 13, 2018 • 12:11:40pm
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Mattand  May 13, 2018 • 12:11:44pm

re: #260 Charles Johnson

The idea that Trump voters are really decent folks who were provoked into a backlash by liberal criticism is abject stupidity. But it’s also condescending; it removes all agency from these people. They KNEW who they were voting for and chose Trump because they agree with him.

I dealt with that this weekend on Facebook. A friend was wondering out loud when it became okay to shit on veteran and former POW McCain had a couple of MAGAs reply back. One fucker actually repeated the “McCain confessed under torture” lie, and the other one made racist noise about Trump is refusing to bow to the interest of “minorities”.

I pushed back, but I checked out as I didn’t want my friend’s FB page to turn into a war zone, which is where I was headed. I wrote her back on Messenger and pointed out the the racist fuckwits who responded pretty much answered her question.

I really don’t know how we come back from this as a country. A sizable chunk of our fellow citizens are straight out want a Putin-style dictatorship/kleptocracy, and the fucking idiot “independents” who could sway the election are either too stupid or too chickenshit to deal with reality.

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jaunte  May 13, 2018 • 12:12:46pm
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Citizen K  May 13, 2018 • 12:20:28pm

re: #274 Charles Johnson

Also, it’s not like Republican haven’t called liberals and Dems every terrible thing under the sun. We’ve been called ‘traitors’ since at 9/11 at the very least. And that didn’t make us want to go out and undermine our country to aid a foreign power.

Republicans did that well enough all by themselves.

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Citizen K  May 13, 2018 • 12:21:41pm

re: #280 Mattand

I dealt with that this weekend on Facebook. A friend was wondering out loud when it became okay to shit on veteran and former POW McCain had a couple of MAGAs reply back. One fucker actually repeated the “McCain confessed under torture” lie, and the other one made racist noise about Trump is refusing to bow to the interest of “minorities”.

I pushed back, but I checked out as I didn’t want my friend’s FB page to turn into a war zone, which is where I was headed. I wrote her back on Messenger and pointed out the the racist fuckwits who responded pretty much answered her question.

I really don’t know how we come back from this a country. A sizable chunk of our fellow citizens are straight out want a Putin-style dictatorship/kleptocracy, and the fucking idiot “independents” who could sway the election are either too stupid or too chickenshit to deal with reality.

Or maybe they’re just not really ‘independent’ and only barely have enough shame to realize they’re on the wrong side (but not enough to actually change their position).

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 12:21:55pm

re: #282 Citizen K

Also, it’s not like Republican haven’t called liberals and Dems every terrible thing under the sun. We’ve been called ‘traitors’ since at 9/11 at the very least. And that didn’t make us want to go out and undermine our country to aid a foreign power.

Republicans did that well enough all by themselves.

Not even that but RW hosts like Limbaugh insulting us for years.

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Citizen K  May 13, 2018 • 12:23:37pm

re: #284 HappyWarrior

Not even that but RW hosts like Limbaugh insulting us for years.

Oh yeah, the actual Republican/conservative condescension has been all over the place. And it’s just…accepted, because it’s somehow taken as an article of faith that it’s impossible to be a “real American” if you’re liberal or Democrat. And any attempt to fight back against it is treated as the greatest sin in the history of forever.

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darthstar  May 13, 2018 • 12:24:48pm

So, any word on how the Trumpaholics are responding to Make China Great Again?

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Mattand  May 13, 2018 • 12:27:49pm

re: #283 Citizen K

Or maybe they’re just not really ‘independent’ and only barely have enough shame to realize they’re on the wrong side (but not enough to actually change their position).

I know a few like that. I also know a few who pulled the “Hillary is as bad as Trump” bullshit and refused to vote. To make matters worse, those idiots were in PA, where every vote counted.

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darthstar  May 13, 2018 • 12:28:24pm

Me and the boys…they hate being held in place to pose for pics.

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 12:28:45pm

re: #285 Citizen K

Oh yeah, the actual Republican/conservative condescension has been all over the place. And it’s just…accepted, because it’s somehow taken as an article of faith that it’s impossible to be a “real American” if you’re liberal or Democrat. And any attempt to fight back against it is treated as the greatest sin in the history of forever.

They act shocked if they find out we respect our family who are vets or are vets ourselves. Not to mention the constant stupid memes about what we are. Anyhow if we’ve condescended to them, maybe they goddamned earned it from years of calling liberals moochers who worship Marx.

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darthstar  May 13, 2018 • 12:30:39pm

And this, from 4 years ago today, just popped up on my feed…what are the odds?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 12:30:57pm

re: #280 Mattand

I really don’t know how we come back from this as a country. A sizable chunk of our fellow citizens are straight out want a Putin-style dictatorship/kleptocracy

and theocracy. Except Fundamentalist Protestant instead of Orthodox Catholic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 12:31:23pm

moron is full of shit

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 13, 2018 • 12:31:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 12:32:08pm

“be cool”…

who says that anymore, except morons like Kanye.

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I cannot.  May 13, 2018 • 12:32:43pm

re: #278 Belafon

8C/htdBcwSEhnQTxiD/3zuth6+h1Lska9vF0yWKwmC9dt7x/MPcTLHBkOEeOPDh7L0YJQTYCUj0P7yMdvaxAgbVXPYe025by13c0ydyfzz7gn5RUyPOD7qi983owrA53XnxfZfn9wDqRzIWMSxwVnOFMdZlhSTG2OTezDB/CecmVbVJpluDTksY4eVSq0L/eED3T07Ag1nWujYvxjaTrvKWI6Tn8Mq4pxNXTMoaRxrtIVF10L8ICboqKsP3C3gAa4NUzEgy1Jst4G6wOiKnvA7QpKgQ6otmgPkjc18CL93J/NjNQSd+K1AQZ6NMtr8YgbaPJ/9WfA9o=

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Teukka  May 13, 2018 • 12:33:30pm

re: #293 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Stanley Sea  May 13, 2018 • 12:34:19pm

re: #290 darthstar

And this, from 4 years ago today, just popped up on my feed…what are the odds?

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BFM

(Before Fuckin Merle)

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Charles Johnson  May 13, 2018 • 12:34:25pm

re: #290 darthstar

And this, from 4 years ago today, just popped up on my feed…what are the odds?

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Very impressive levitation skills.

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ObserverArt  May 13, 2018 • 12:37:01pm

re: #277 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ✔
@Green_Footballs
Upon which, thousands of them immediately embraced the name, proudly declared, “Yes, I AM deplorable!” and proceeded to prove it.

3:06 PM - May 13, 2018

And since they took the name to heart and are currently acting out in a deplorable manner, Hillary was on the mark. They have more then proven her correct.

Maybe the media and political pundits need to discuss why that is all the way it is.

It wasn’t Hillary.

She was just being observant.

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darthstar  May 13, 2018 • 12:37:22pm

Avenatti re: #297 Stanley Sea

BFM

(Before Fuckin Merle)

Fuckin’ Merle is a hell of a lot of dog. I got him into a place called Happy Tails doggy daycare. It’s been a godsend. So much mellower after herding other dogs for eight hours.

The gal at the ranch where he goes (Banjo goes too) says he runs at full throttle pretty much all day.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 12:39:24pm

re: #277 Charles Johnson

Yeah, no. None of the people who put “deplorable” in their Twitter handles or Facebook feeds were going to vote for Hillary Clinton. Moreover, she said “half of Trump supporters,” not all of them.

And a good chunk of “deplorable” names were foreigners stoking the flames of conservative voters.

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Stanley Sea  May 13, 2018 • 12:40:20pm

re: #300 darthstar

Avenatti

Fuckin’ Merle is a hell of a lot of dog. I got him into a place called Happy Tails doggy daycare. It’s been a godsend. So much mellower after herding other dogs for eight hours.

The gal at the ranch where he goes (Banjo goes too) says he runs at full throttle pretty much all day.

Your house is happy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 12:41:27pm

re: #293 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The logic of numbskull @nytopinion editorials like this, blaming liberals for people becoming more racist, is the logic of alcoholic families: “Daddy drinks because you cry.” I feel sorry for this guy’s students. www.

There are people who are too quick to use terms like “fascist”, “racist” or “sexist” for things they dislike, but that is not an excuse to be a fascist, racist sexist.

There are times when the context of a statement is overlooked.

But there are plenty of times when the context is quite clear.

Carrying a torch, giving a nazi salute is one of them. that is not just an alternative opinion or a spot on the acceptable scale of public opinion, it is something that is against everything america stands for and something that americans have fought and died to prevent.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 12:42:37pm
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Citizen K  May 13, 2018 • 12:44:53pm

I’m just fucking exhausted. This feels like the arguments of the Bush era magnified severalfold.

We’ve somehow raced back into ‘torture maybe is morally good’ and the full on persecution complex of the GOP treating the presence of a liberal thought ever as the greatest oppression ever. And with the media fully enabling all of it.

Apparently we’re just not worthy enough to be treated like actual fucking Americans anymore.

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Dave In Austin  May 13, 2018 • 12:46:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 12:51:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 12:52:59pm

oh

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Citizen K  May 13, 2018 • 12:53:51pm

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

No words.

The fever is real.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 12:54:19pm

re: #305 Citizen K

I’m just fucking exhausted. This feels like the arguments of the Bush era magnified severalfold.

We’ve somehow raced back into ‘torture maybe is morally good’ and the full on persecution complex of the GOP treating the presence of a liberal thought ever as the greatest oppression ever. And with the media fully enabling all of it.

Apparently we’re just not worthy enough to be treated like actual fucking Americans anymore.

The phrase has been around as long as I’ve been alive. I can’t seem to find a source for the phrase, but it’s been a consistent dogwhistle for conservatives to mean either “not liberal” or “white” for my fifty-odd years.

On the other hand, the Oxford English Dictionary traces the slur “Democrat Party” all the way back to 1890, to a GOP congressman from New Hampshire addressing a crowd in Michigan.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 12:55:02pm

it begins…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 13, 2018 • 12:55:38pm

re: #305 Citizen K

Re: “Liberal Condescension”, where the fuck was this all when the GOP and conservatives mounted campaigns after campaigns tarring liberals as somehow not being ‘real Americans’? We’ve been considered traitors since 9/11 at the latest and told we ‘hate America’ forever.

fuck your (non-liberal) feelings

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Charles Johnson  May 13, 2018 • 12:58:34pm
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BeachDem  May 13, 2018 • 1:00:33pm

“We believe that the best of America is in the small towns that we get to visit, and in the wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard-working, very patriotic, very pro-America areas of this great nation,” she said.

“This is where we find the kindness and the goodness and the courage of everyday Americans,” Palin added.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 13, 2018 • 1:01:48pm
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Citizen K  May 13, 2018 • 1:03:00pm

re: #314 BeachDem

“This is where we find the kindness and the goodness and the courage of everyday Americans,” Palin added.

That’s where things have gone wrong. They’ve managed to sell hate and suspicion as ‘kindness’, contrarian morality as ‘goodness’, and pants-wetting fear and paranoia as the utmost of ‘courage’.

They’ve successfully sold ‘up’ as ‘down’ to the majority of America. How do you come back from that?

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Patricia Kayden  May 13, 2018 • 1:03:32pm

re: #282 Citizen K

Exactly. Why is the fact that Conservatives/Republicans call liberals/progressives demeaning names all the time, including unpatriotic and un-American never discussed? When Dr. King and Black people stood up to Jim Crow, they were called Communists.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 1:03:56pm
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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 1:04:56pm

re: #316 Citizen K

That’s where things have gone wrong. They’ve managed to sell hate and suspicion as ‘kindness’, contrarian morality as ‘goodness’, and pants-wetting fear and paranoia as the utmost of ‘courage’.

They’ve successfully sold ‘up’ as ‘down’ to the majority of America. How do you come back from that?

a) They’re not the majority, they’re just louder.
b) You outvote them.

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BeachDem  May 13, 2018 • 1:10:40pm

re: #318 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And a poorly folded white robe photographed against a white background—Ivanka’s backwards jewelry org must use the same photographer.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 1:11:22pm

re: #317 Patricia Kayden

Exactly. Why is the fact that Conservatives/Republicans call liberals/progressives demeaning names all the time, including unpatriotic and un-American never discussed? When Dr. King and Black people stood up to Jim Crow, they were called Communists.

Conservative hagiography is endlessly mutable.

a) Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was really a Republican.
b) Democrats started the Klan and supported Jim Crow (invoking the Dixiecrat Fallacy)
c) Compassion=weakness, progress=socialism, freedom=slavery, ignorance=strength.
d) Democrats are tax and spend (ignoring Republicans are borrow and spend)
e) Any fear-based position this week is the ‘Murican one.

(Tossed in a bit of 1984 there)

The part they leave out? Conservatism (for politicians and businesses anyway) is always about gaining and maintaining power.

I forget who it was here who noted the best focus group message was a generic one that said “my opponent is interested in dividing us so he can help make his friends and lobbyists rich, while I want to expand opportunity for us all” or words to that effect.

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Citizen K  May 13, 2018 • 1:11:37pm

re: #320 BeachDem

And a poorly folded white robe photographed against a white background—Ivanka’s backwards jewelry org must use the same photographer.

They had to hide the white hood that it comes with for PR reasons.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 1:14:07pm
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Patricia Kayden  May 13, 2018 • 1:14:38pm

re: #318 Backwoods_Sleuth

And the blatant grifting continues. And Republicans in Congress say nothing. Hell, I’m not even hearing Democrats saying anything about this. Saying that President Obama or President Hillary Clinton couldn’t get away with this is becoming redundant.

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goddamnedfrank  May 13, 2018 • 1:16:42pm
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petesh  May 13, 2018 • 1:17:34pm

re: #320 BeachDem

And a poorly folded white robe photographed against a white background—Ivanka’s backwards jewelry org must use the same photographer.

I suspect it’s intended to offer the subliminal message that you have shucked the robe and slippers in order to enjoy sexual congress with an extremely attractive … nah, it’s just a lousy photo.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 1:18:18pm

JFC…moron alternate reality:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 1:19:06pm

re: #324 Patricia Kayden

And the blatant grifting continues. And Republicans in Congress say nothing. Hell, I’m not even hearing Democrats saying anything about this. Saying that President Obama or President Hillary Clinton couldn’t get away with this is becoming redundant.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 1:20:22pm

re: #324 Patricia Kayden

And the blatant grifting continues. And Republicans in Congress say nothing. Hell, I’m not even hearing Democrats saying anything about this. Saying that President Obama or President Hillary Clinton couldn’t get away with this is becoming redundant.

mercurynews.com
Democratic Party files lawsuit alleging racketeering to influence the election (April 20)

bloomberg.com
200 Democrats tell judge Emoluments Clause applies to Trump (April 30)

You’re not hearing it primarily because fascist-curious outlets like the New York Times are still busy interviewing every Trump voter in the USA. Pretty soon they’ll go interview Russian trolls in St. Petersburg.

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ObserverArt  May 13, 2018 • 1:20:28pm

re: #320 BeachDem

And a poorly folded white robe photographed against a white background—Ivanka’s backwards jewelry org must use the same photographer.

Poorly folded because they had to get the Trump name in. Good enough for the fools that would buy it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 1:20:42pm

re: #328 Backwoods_Sleuth

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oops, wrong tweet and now I can’t find the one I meant to post.

dammit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 1:25:06pm
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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 1:27:45pm

Well, I could go out today and clean up the tornado debris in my yard, but someone at the National Weather Service scheduled us for another round of thunderstorms with a tornado risk in central Nebr.

The tornado risk on the 10th was in central Nebr. The two tornadoes were the southwest and here.

I figure I can just ride out another tornado and it will blow all the debris away, saving me the trouble.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 1:28:14pm
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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 1:34:15pm

re: #329 Anymouse 🌹

In the racketeering lawsuit, Wikileaks, the Russian Federation, and the Trump campaign are all named as the alleged perpetrators.

In the case of Russia, the Dems argue Russia does not enjoy sovereign immunity, because it trespassed on private property (the Democratic Party servers which were hacked).

From the San Jose Mercury-News article linked in #329:

The lawsuit echoes a similar legal tactic that the Democratic Party used during the Watergate scandal. In 1972, the DNC filed suit against then President Richard Nixon’s reelection committee seeking $1 million in damages for the break-in at Democratic headquarters in the Watergate building.

The suit was denounced at the time by Nixon’s attorney general, John Mitchell, who called it a case of “sheer demagoguery” by the DNC. But the civil action brought by former DNC chair Lawrence F. O’Brien was ultimately successful, yielding a $750,000 settlement from the Nixon campaign that was reached on the day in 1974 that Nixon left office.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 13, 2018 • 1:45:29pm

re: #7 goddamnedfrank

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PhillyPretzel  May 13, 2018 • 1:47:21pm

PBS and Masterpiece Theater are showing Little Women. Here is my page on tonight’s TV show.
littlegreenfootballs.com

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freetoken  May 13, 2018 • 1:49:12pm

re: #336 GlutenFreeJesus

Repeating myself from earlier:

I don’t buy the assertion. It was not just a “private” conversation. It was a workplace meeting. A government workplace meeting.

And I deny the assertion that I too go around secretly making fun of dying people.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 1:50:14pm

I went back several threads to read the comments when the tornado was bearing down on our village and our power was cut off.

I truly thank you all for your concern for my wife and me. I am sorry I was unable to see those comments as they were posted.

Backwoods Sleuth posted a tweet to the radar picture of what slugged us here. By the time the storm was in that place in the radar photo, we were already without power.

I went to the tweet and captured the radar photo and posted it to my photo array article in the right hand column. Just looking at that radar picture I’m amazed we still have a town at all.

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Patricia Kayden  May 13, 2018 • 1:51:18pm

re: #329 Anymouse 🌹

True. Democrats may need to hire a Communications Specialist or Publicist because they seem mostly mute in the face of Trump’s million and one scandals. If Republicans and Democrats were in reverse positions, Republicans would be screaming bloody murder every single second.

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ObserverArt  May 13, 2018 • 1:52:42pm

re: #336 GlutenFreeJesus

This place is infested with Nazis.
@efuseakay
Oh but comments a comedian made at a fucking ROAST?! Those were out of line!

4:41 PM - May 13, 2018

She should have kept that quiet in public and said it only at some private liberal party.

But really, Mulvaney is just being honest about what has been suspected. Conservatives keep it quiet and hide how much they hate everybody and everything.

The hate is fine, just do not mention it. It leaves a bad impression of conservatives even if it is the truth.

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Renaissance_Man  May 13, 2018 • 1:52:59pm

re: #340 Patricia Kayden

True. Democrats may need to hire a Communications Specialist or Publicist because they seem mostly mute in the face of Trump’s million and one scandals. If Republicans and Democrats were in reverse positions, Republicans would be screaming bloody murder every single second.

The difference is that if Republicans say something, it becomes amplified throughout the US media. Democrats saying something is either ignored, or is challenged by guest counterarguments for balance.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 13, 2018 • 1:54:37pm

By extension, this is also Grandmother’s day.

This is my mother with my 3 day old daughter Jessica and my nephew Jason, March 5 1977.

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Patricia Kayden  May 13, 2018 • 1:56:12pm

re: #342 Renaissance_Man

So how do we get our message out there? I keep hearing “serious” people in the media saying stuff like, “Democrats can’t win if all they talk about is how bad Trump is”. It gets frustrating because talking about how bad Trump is should be enough for us to win. Plus, when Democrats do talk about issues like healthcare, education, immigration, etc., the media shrugs and continues to focus on Republican lies.

I listen to Iheart radio and their news is basically a recitation of Trump claims.

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ObserverArt  May 13, 2018 • 1:58:07pm

re: #340 Patricia Kayden

True. Democrats may need to hire a Communications Specialist or Publicist because they seem mostly mute in the face of Trump’s million and one scandals. If Republicans and Democrats were in reverse positions, Republicans would be screaming bloody murder every single second.

The Democrats are trying real hard to look like they are not just against Trump in this election season. The media already hammers them for it anyway.

The Democrats are trying to run on the issues Trump is causing and on the reality of his results and how they hurt people.

It is a strangely tricky battle line the Democratic party has to walk. You can thank the media for much of it as they build the narratives.

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goddamnedfrank  May 13, 2018 • 1:58:38pm

Rubble rubble

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 1:58:44pm
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Patricia Kayden  May 13, 2018 • 1:58:49pm

re: #333 Anymouse 🌹

I believe when I first moved to Southern Maryland, we had a tornado in the neighboring town. Sounds scary, tbh. Stay safe.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 2:01:40pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  May 13, 2018 • 2:03:13pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Vicious Babushka  May 13, 2018 • 2:07:41pm

re: #254 Charles Johnson

Journalists on Twitter are getting all gushy about Trump’s Mother’s Day video. I can’t even.

He read in a monotone from a teleprompter like he never saw words before.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 2:09:41pm

re: #342 Renaissance_Man

The difference is that if Republicans say something, it becomes amplified throughout the US media. Democrats saying something is either ignored, or is challenged by guest counterarguments for balance.

The best example of that is Sunday political shows. The needle is fixed to “Republican.” Good luck getting someone like Sherrod Brown or Elizabeth Warren on one of those shows.

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Single-handed sailor  May 13, 2018 • 2:17:29pm

I’m off to a late start after finding out I didn’t clean the smoker out after the last 2 uses, but it’s firing up right now. Going to smoke some baby back ribs for about 5 hours.

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goddamnedfrank  May 13, 2018 • 2:20:10pm
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Renaissance_Man  May 13, 2018 • 2:22:02pm

re: #344 Patricia Kayden

So how do we get our message out there? I keep hearing “serious” people in the media saying stuff like, “Democrats can’t win if all they talk about is how bad Trump is”. It gets frustrating because talking about how bad Trump is should be enough for us to win. Plus, when Democrats do talk about issues like healthcare, education, immigration, etc., the media shrugs and continues to focus on Republican lies.

I listen to Iheart radio and their news is basically a recitation of Trump claims.

I don’t know, but I think it has to be through communications that don’t go through the gates of the mainstream US media. Facebook and Twitter and the like have promise, but their current model allows them to be swamped by volume of lies.

The problem is that traditional media outlets are able to choose their content in order to drive a particular narrative. That narrative is chosen to keep one particular demographic exalted above all others - specifically, white rural people. At this time, that demographic has overwhelmingly been turned into evil fascists by targeted propaganda, but that demographic continues to be pandered to and coddled by all major branches of US media. Non-traditional media doesn’t have to favour any particular narrative or demographic, but is vulnerable to interference and incoherence.

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BeachDem  May 13, 2018 • 2:30:27pm

re: #345 ObserverArt

The Democrats are trying real hard to look like they are not just against Trump in this election season. The media already hammers them for it anyway.

The Democrats are trying to run on the issues Trump is causing and on the reality of his results and how they hurt people.

It is a strangely tricky battle line the Democratic party has to walk. You can thank the media for much of it as they build the narratives.

Especially when people like Alex Burns says shit like this—liberal hubris/arrogance; uh huh, because there’s NO hubris or arrogance coming the vulgar talking yam. Spit.

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goddamnedfrank  May 13, 2018 • 2:48:57pm
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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 2:50:40pm

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I love it when genealogical research schools ignorant fuckwits like Tomi and Kelly.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 13, 2018 • 2:50:40pm

re: #40 scottslemmons

Never saw that movie, but thought this looked like a great scene.

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Video

Someone stitched together several scenes, added music, and lost the amusing dialogue.

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Teukka  May 13, 2018 • 2:53:51pm
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Cheechako  May 13, 2018 • 2:54:43pm

For Midsomers Murders fans, Acorn dot TV has the new Series 20 (6 episodes) available for viewing.

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 2:58:46pm

re: #356 BeachDem

Especially when people like Alex Burns says shit like this—liberal hubris/arrogance; uh huh, because there’s NO hubris or arrogance coming the vulgar talking yam. Spit.

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I’m so sick of this shit. Burns acts as if Trump and his supporters are paradigms of modesty and never talk down to anyone.

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BigPapa  May 13, 2018 • 2:59:45pm

Avenatti may not be a good lawyer, he may be great. But in the court of opinion he’s Johnny freaking Cochran. He’s trolling hard.

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Patricia Kayden  May 13, 2018 • 2:59:54pm
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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 3:02:17pm

You know what’s arrogance? Doing a bunch of fluff stories about how Trump supporters “feel betrayed” by Trump while ignoring that children of color especially immigrant ones have been bullied and some of them have even eben separated from their families.

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Romantic Heretic  May 13, 2018 • 3:02:49pm

Don’t know if this has been posted here yet but foaming bigot Robert Jeffress is giving the invocation at the opening of the US new embassy in Jerusalem

Hear me, Lord. Cleanse these heathens with holy fire! Free your Holy Land of their taint and return it to the True Christians of America!

That will go over well with the Israelis.

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TedStriker  May 13, 2018 • 3:03:06pm

re: #356 BeachDem

Especially when people like Alex Burns says shit like this—liberal hubris/arrogance; uh huh, because there’s NO hubris or arrogance coming the vulgar talking yam. Spit.

It’s almost like the “liberal” media WANTS to keep Trump and the GOP on Capital Hill in power, because it sure fucking seems like it to me; drama and shit-stirring from the WH on down makes the media, not just the WHPC, much more money from eyeballs on the screen/page than having “no-drama” Democrats like Obama and Hillary in charge ever could.

Michelle Wolf was and is dead-on right when she said that the media created Trump as he currently is and that he’s made them (including the WHPC) a lot of money; they’ll never willingly turn on him to any real degree precisely because of the dollars. They’re Quislings, willing collaborators, symbiotes with the Trump administration and the GOP in Washington…and they should be treated by the Democratic Party and Democrats as such, hostile agents of a lawless administration the likes Nixon could only dream about.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 3:03:49pm

re: #365 HappyWarrior

You know what’s arrogance? Doing a bunch of fluff stories about how Trump supporters “feel betrayed” by Trump while ignoring that children of color especially immigrant ones have been bullied and some of them have even eben separated from their families.

and 1,500 of those are missing

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Hecuba's daughter  May 13, 2018 • 3:04:42pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ben Shapiro

@benshapiro
I asked my 4-year-old daughter this morning whether she thought it would be more fun to have a job or be a mommy. She said, “To be a mommy, so I can cuddle my babies.” Clearly, she has already been victimized by the patriarchy.
9:10 AM - May 13, 2018
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Molly Jong-Fast

@MollyJongFast
I asked my daughter what she wanted to be when she grew up and she said she wanted to fucking topple the patriarchy.


9:19 AM - May 13, 2018

Hey Ben, Why don’t you ask Tammy Duckworth about that? A hero and motherwho is contributing more to our society every day than you have done in your lifetime to date.

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Romantic Heretic  May 13, 2018 • 3:05:04pm

re: #367 TedStriker

Proving yet again Samuel Clemen’s observation that not only does everyone have a price but that price is often shockingly low.

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 3:05:20pm

re: #368 Backwoods_Sleuth

and 1,500 of those are missing

Yep but let’s shit on liberals for knowing what the media already knows about Trump and that’s that he’s an ignorant fool who played even more ignorant fools.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 13, 2018 • 3:05:31pm

Most powerful photobomb?

Alas it is a fake.

The giveaway is that the mushroom cloud is identical to a famous image of the Upshot-Knothole-Grable test in 1953.

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goddamnedfrank  May 13, 2018 • 3:07:14pm
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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 3:09:55pm

re: #369 Hecuba’s daughter

Hey Ben, Why don’t you ask Tammy Duckworth about that? A hero and motherwho is contributing more to our society every day than you have done in your lifetime to date.

The sad thing is he thinks he’s clever but it really is a recycled joke not to mention a stupid representation of what feminists actually believe.

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Citizen K  May 13, 2018 • 3:11:02pm

re: #356 BeachDem

It’s at the point I’m fucking terrified for November now, since it seems like there’s simply no fucking way to get a message out that doesn’t get twisted into “TRUMP IS GOD, DEMS HAVE BECOME THE LITERAL ANTICHRIST” bullshit. And there are clearly enough wishy washys to ratfuck us in the end if this continues on.

It’s like so much screaming into the wind while their alternate reality gets treated like the only real reality.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 13, 2018 • 3:12:08pm

re: #124 A Mom Anon

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goddamnedfrank  May 13, 2018 • 3:13:25pm

re: #374 HappyWarrior

The sad thing is he thinks he’s clever but it really is a recycled joke not to mention a stupid representation of what feminists actually believe.

Also abusively using his child as a political prop while ostensibly presenting her with an image of life as false dichotomy.

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petesh  May 13, 2018 • 3:14:53pm

If Mueller has Flynn singing and Avenatti has a photo of Flynn and Cohen outside Trump Tower with the guy who bribed Flynn … Cohen may well be clearing his throat. And the big guy will be producing more and more distractions.

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 3:16:18pm

re: #377 goddamnedfrank

Also abusively using his child as a political prop while ostensibly presenting her with an image of life as false dichotomy.

Yeah it’s just a little girl showing her nurturing side. Ben is a stupid jerk who needs to get the fuck over himself.

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retired cynic  May 13, 2018 • 3:21:26pm

For Mother’s Day: several months ago a pretty feral tortoiseshell kitty showed up at my house out in the country. I couldn’t get within miles of her, but started putting food out on the front porch, and calling her the same way every time. Now she comes when I call, and let’s me stand on the inside of the front door while she is there.

I couldn’t help it; I named her Chica after Stanley’s pretty girl. (I hope I have the right LGF’er!)

So call her Chica Too. So Friday, looking out the kitchen window, I realize Chica is actually Three. She has three kittens: black, black and white, and orange and white.

And a black and white young tom cat has joined the throng. Counting the three interior senior citizens, I think that’s enough!

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Single-handed sailor  May 13, 2018 • 3:24:38pm

Ribs are on..

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Stanley Sea  May 13, 2018 • 3:28:44pm

re: #380 retired cynic

For Mother’s Day: several months ago a pretty feral tortoiseshell kitty showed up at my house out in the country. I couldn’t get within miles of her, but started putting food out on the front porch, and calling her the same way every time. Now she comes when I call, and let’s me stand on the inside of the front door while she is there.

I couldn’t help it; I named her Chica after Stanley’s pretty girl. (I hope I have the right LGF’er!)

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So call her Chica Too. So Friday, looking out the kitchen window, I realize Chica is actually Three. She has three kittens: black, black and white, and orange and white.

And a black and white young tom cat has joined the throng. Counting the three interior senior citizens, I think that’s enough!

A Chica is a good girlfriend!

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Eventual Carrion  May 13, 2018 • 3:35:28pm

re: #353 Single-handed sailor

I’m off to a late start after finding out I didn’t clean the smoker out after the last 2 uses, but it’s firing up right now. Going to smoke some baby back ribs for about 5 hours.

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We just used the Instant Pot my wife got for christmas from her sisters and mother for the first time. Did a beef roast and red, garlic/parsley potatoes and carrots. Came out pretty good. Did it at high pressure (after saute browning of the roast on all sides) for 60 minutes. Might go 65 - 70 next time. Meat came out good and juicy, taters and carrots could have maybe used a little more time.

One recipe I read had you putting the potatoes and carrots right in the broth with the meat. Another said they put the potatoes and the carrots, with garlic and parsley plus butter, in foil all together. Then put package on top of meat to cook. I went with the package deal. Might try it other way next time. Suggestions?

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allegro  May 13, 2018 • 3:36:47pm

re: #382 Stanley Sea

A Chica is a good girlfriend!

Speaking of Chica… how is she doing with hotel life now? She relaxed some with it?

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The Vicious Babushka  May 13, 2018 • 3:37:59pm
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PhillyPretzel  May 13, 2018 • 3:38:53pm

re: #385 The Vicious Babushka

Mmmm. Those look great.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 3:44:18pm

re: #383 Eventual Carrion

One recipe I read had you putting the potatoes and carrots right in the broth with the meat. Another said they put the potatoes and the carrots, with garlic and parsley plus butter, in foil all together. Then put package on top of meat to cook. I went with the package deal. Might try it other way next time. Suggestions?

My vote is for in the broth.
That’s how we do it with ours.

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The Major  May 13, 2018 • 3:47:13pm

re: #369 Hecuba’s daughter

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Danack  May 13, 2018 • 3:52:06pm

This is some remarkable syncrhonicity:

This Is America, so Call Me Maybe

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retired cynic  May 13, 2018 • 3:57:00pm

Carlos Lozada had a double book review in the Washington Post: “The Soul of America” by Jon Meacham and “Our Towns” by James and Deborah Fallows. Meacham had an hour with Terry Gross on Fresh Air recently, and I enjoyed it a lot, so was interested to see how this review turned out. Good.

After reading these journeys across time and geography, I would offer but one amendment: The American experiment is not just worth the fight — it is the fight. With passion always strained, the pursuit of prosperity, freedom and belonging is an endless battle, an enterprise in equal measures exhausting and exhilarating.

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William Lewis  May 13, 2018 • 4:01:35pm

re: #389 Danack

This is some remarkable syncrhonicity:

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Video

I’m not sure the word I want for that. Terrifying? Hilarious? It’s almost like a sequence from an Adams Family reboot…

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Stanley Sea  May 13, 2018 • 4:13:44pm

re: #384 allegro

Speaking of Chica… how is she doing with hotel life now? She relaxed some with it?

Not really. I climbed over the bed to figure out her hiding place & it’s a 4” gap between the bed platform & the wall. She’s there all day. At night I see her in the window looking down (3rd floor) then when I wake up she’s staring at me. I’ve got to figure out her flight this week. Trauma for both of us.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 13, 2018 • 4:14:41pm

re: #218 Ace-o-aces

Axios

@axios
9h
John Bolton tells @ThisWeekABC that an advantage of Trump meeting Kim “without months and months and months of preparation” is he’ll be able to “size [Kim] up.” pic.twitter.com

Size someone up without knowing the language, culture, or history? Good luck with that. I thought warmonger Bolton was supposed to be intelligent? I guess not.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 13, 2018 • 4:18:41pm

More illnesses reported as salmonella outbreak traced to eggs grows

A salmonella outbreak that led to the recall of 207 million eggs has worsened — with 35 people reported ill in several states, federal health officials said.

The number of illnesses is a dozen more since the initial recall notice was issued last month.

Related Content
207 million eggs in nine states recalled over salmonella fears
The outbreak is linked to Rose Acre Farms, whose eggs were distributed to restaurants or sold at major grocery stores such as Walmart and Food Lion.

At least 11 people have been hospitalized due to complications, but no deaths have been reported, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced Friday.

States and brands affected
The eggs were sold in Colorado, Florida, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Virginia and West Virginia.

Brands affected include Country Daybreak, Coburn Farms, Sunshine Farms, Great Value and Glenview. Consumers can check the Food and Drug Administration’s website for a full list of recalled brands.

This occurred in a regulated industry so obviously less regulation will solve the problem./// (GOP/Trump/Randian logic)

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 13, 2018 • 4:22:39pm

re: #375 Citizen K

It’s at the point I’m fucking terrified for November now, since it seems like there’s simply no fucking way to get a message out that doesn’t get twisted into “TRUMP IS GOD, DEMS HAVE BECOME THE LITERAL ANTICHRIST” bullshit. And there are clearly enough wishy washys to ratfuck us in the end if this continues on.

It’s like so much screaming into the wind while their alternate reality gets treated like the only real reality.

Take a look at who’s actually been winning elections since 2016 and chill.

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Jay C  May 13, 2018 • 4:27:20pm

re: #358 HappyWarrior

I love it when genealogical research schools ignorant fuckwits like Tomi and Kelly.

Yeah, well, I doubt these assclowns have actually been “schooled” much. The unspoken subtext here (at least as far as my cynical sense goes) is “white”. Replace “Norwegian” with “Nigerian” or “Nicaraguan” - “Swedish” with “Syrian” or “Salvadoran”, and I’m sure their attitudes would be quite different….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 4:29:27pm

re: #394 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

More illnesses reported as salmonella outbreak traced to eggs grows

Cook the damned eggs and there is no problem.

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 4:35:15pm

re: #396 Jay C

Yeah, well, I doubt these assclowns have actually been “schooled” much. The unspoken subtext here (at least as far as my cynical sense goes) is “white”. Replace “Norwegian” with “Nigerian” or “Nicaraguan” - “Swedish” with “Syrian” or “Salvadoran”, and I’m sure their attitudes would be quite different….

True that.

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PhillyPretzel  May 13, 2018 • 4:39:13pm

re: #397 Backwoods_Sleuth

True. And hard-boiling them would be even better.

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wheat-dogg  May 13, 2018 • 4:45:22pm

re: #389 Danack

It works because most pop songs follow the same basic structure. Some people on Twitter are suggesting Glover wrote his song deliberately to take advantage of that fact.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 13, 2018 • 4:48:10pm

re: #379 HappyWarrior

Yeah it’s just a little girl showing her nurturing side. Ben is a stupid jerk who needs to get the fuck over himself.

I doubt she’s showing her nurturing side — she’s showing her brainwashed side. Her father is inculcating into her that a woman cannot simultaneously have a career and be a mother. I wonder how longer before Shapiro’s wife joins Chuck’s wife and seeks a divorce.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 13, 2018 • 4:49:16pm

re: #399 PhillyPretzel

True. And hard-boiling them would be even better.

But set some aside to use raw to make homemade mayonnaise for egg salad!

What? Full of Salmonella?

Oh. That’s very different, then.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 13, 2018 • 4:51:04pm

re: #399 PhillyPretzel

re: #397 Backwoods_Sleuth

So I guess it’s a bad day for that home made Caesar Salad?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 13, 2018 • 4:51:59pm

Of all the arguments of AGW deniers, this is, without a doubt, the stupidest. So, of course, Charlie Kirk thinks he’s a fucking genius to use it…

I may not be able to tell you the exact temperature tomorrow, but I’m pretty sure I can guess that it’ll be warmer than the average temperature in January, shithead. Now, how would I know that?

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Stanley Sea  May 13, 2018 • 4:52:05pm

I’m kinda tripping. Will be at hotel 1 mo on 5/18. Staying till 6/30. Sick of take out. Sooo much is wasted. Nothing is thrilling to “cook” on the 2 burner. No oven. Microwave dinners = meh. Went to store for coffee & wandered the aisles. got one of those mozzarella prosciutto basil rolls & crackers for dinner.

I did bust some dudes outside today smoking weed all clandestinely. I was like, I’m cool!!

Thanks, I just had to give my periodic whine.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 4:53:08pm

re: #403 Unshaken Defiance

So I guess it’s a bad day for that home made Caesar Salad?

unless you raise your own chickens and handle the eggs sensibly.

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William Lewis  May 13, 2018 • 4:54:05pm

re: #400 wheat-dogg

It works because most pop songs follow the same basic structure. Some people on Twitter are suggesting Glover wrote his song deliberately to take advantage of that fact.

Not quite true - while certain structures are common, that is a plural for a reason. Chordal progressions as well as rhythmic considerations are also very much in play. It is common for multiple songs to use the same structure but a song that is built on the vi-IV-I-V structure like Toto’s “Africa” or Joan Osborne’s “One of Us” is still going to be very different from a song built on the I-V-vi-IV progression such as The Rolling Stones’s “Beast of Burden” or Green Day’s “When I Come Around”.

This is one of the main reasons Fake Books work after all.

This particular synchronicity is at the VIDEO level that it amazes me, not the song. That’s really where it gets almost Jungian.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 13, 2018 • 4:55:17pm
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Stanley Sea  May 13, 2018 • 4:56:12pm

re: #406 Backwoods_Sleuth

unless you raise your own chickens and handle the eggs sensibly.

No refrigeration & don’t wash the membrane off? That’s what my friends do
????

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 4:57:25pm

re: #365 HappyWarrior

You know what’s arrogance? Doing a bunch of fluff stories about how Trump supporters “feel betrayed” by Trump while ignoring that children of color especially immigrant ones have been bullied and some of them have even eben separated from their families.

And our Corporate Censored Conservative Press doesn’t do one single article interviewing Hillary voters!

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 13, 2018 • 4:58:37pm

re: #406 Backwoods_Sleuth

unless you raise your own chickens and handle the eggs sensibly.

I have instructions somewhere for “cooking” eggs so they’re safe, but still usable in recipes that call for raw eggs. When I get home..

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Ace Rothstein  May 13, 2018 • 4:59:48pm

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Ace Rothstein  May 13, 2018 • 5:02:26pm
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Renaissance_Man  May 13, 2018 • 5:02:29pm

re: #405 Stanley Sea

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 5:02:30pm

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Ace Rothstein  May 13, 2018 • 5:03:33pm

re: #415 Joe Bacon 🌹

That’s a hell of a lot more accurate than that dumb meme with Trump at the resolute desk with Jesus “guiding him,” FFS.

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 5:04:17pm

re: #401 Hecuba’s daughter

I doubt she’s showing her nurturing side — she’s showing her brainwashed side. Her father is inculcating into her that a woman cannot simultaneously have a career and be a mother. I wonder how longer before Shapiro’s wife joins Chuck’s wife and seeks a divorce.

I think she just said she would like to have babies of her own and Ben twisted that to push his stupid tweet.

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wheat-dogg  May 13, 2018 • 5:04:39pm

re: #407 William Lewis

Not quite true - while certain structures are common, that is a plural for a reason. Chordal progressions as well as rhythmic considerations are also very much in play. It is common for multiple songs to use the same structure but a song that is built on the vi-IV-I-V structure like Toto’s “Africa” or Joan Osborne’s “One of Us” is still going to be very different from a song built on the I-V-vi-IV progression such as The Rolling Stones’s “Beast of Burden” or Green Day’s “When I Come Around”.

This is one of the main reasons Fake Books work after all.

This particular synchronicity is at the VIDEO level that it amazes me, not the song. That’s really where it gets almost Jungian.

I understand the chord progressions can be different. I was thinking more about the verse-chorus structure, which is pretty common among pop songs. I’m not enough of a musician to express what I mean very well, but it’s similar to how you can sing Stairway to Heaven to the tune of Gilligan’s Island (or vice versa).

But I gotta admit, hearing the Carly Mae Jepson song superimposed over the video is rather disturbing. I’m reasonably sure Glover had that in mind when he created his song and the video to go with it.

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BeachDem  May 13, 2018 • 5:04:43pm

My great-nieces love to bake, so for Christmas last year, I got them some serious decorating equipment. Here is the cake they made for Mother’s Day. (they’re 11)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 13, 2018 • 5:04:59pm

Evening Lizardim. Happy Mother’s Day to the mothers in the crowd. How go things?

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 5:05:20pm

re: #404 Blind Frog Belly White

Of all the arguments of AGW deniers, this is, without a doubt, the stupidest. So, of course, Charlie Kirk thinks he’s a fucking genius to use it…

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I may not be able to tell you the exact temperature tomorrow, but I’m pretty sure I can guess that it’ll be warmer than the average temperature in January, shithead. Now, how would I know that?

Climate you idiot. Climate. We learned the difference between the two in grade school.

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wheat-dogg  May 13, 2018 • 5:05:47pm

It’s that time again. Monday morning classes. See you all later!

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Unshaken Defiance  May 13, 2018 • 5:06:20pm

Tonight I used the shiny new butchers scissors the wife bought. Butterflied a fresh chicken. Now so many flavor choices on how to cook it. Oven roast or BBQ?

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PhillyPretzel  May 13, 2018 • 5:06:24pm

re: #411 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Cook’s Illustrated recommends microwaving the raw yolks first for 15 - 20 seconds until they bubble then whisking them and then microwaving them again for 5 seconds. The entire recipe is found at the July 2013 issue of Cook’s Illustrated.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 13, 2018 • 5:07:03pm

re: #423 Unshaken Defiance

Tonight I used the shiny new butchers scissors the wife bought. Butterflied a fresh chicken. Now so many flavor choices on how to cook it. Oven roast or BBQ?

BBQ.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 13, 2018 • 5:07:36pm

re: #421 HappyWarrior

Climate you idiot. Climate. We learned the difference between the two in grade school.

Well, some of us did. Some people were obviously too busy sniffing glue.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 13, 2018 • 5:08:04pm

re: #425 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

BBQ.

Oven roast.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 5:09:03pm

Food Break—Went to Nick’s Coffee Shop on Pico in Los Angeles for lunch.

Their Denver Omelette is tasty!!!!!!

From Nick’s Coffee Shop on Pico/La Cienega Los Angeles
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Stanley Sea  May 13, 2018 • 5:09:27pm

re: #420 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Evening Lizardim. Happy Mother’s Day to the mothers in the crowd. How go things?

#SAD

Not a mother

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BeachDem  May 13, 2018 • 5:10:15pm

re: #413 Ace Rothstein

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I wonder what time these arrivals happened. I saw some of the c-span footage earlier that had Kellyanne coming into the tower that day as well, but don’t know if it was close to the same time.

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William Lewis  May 13, 2018 • 5:11:14pm

re: #423 Unshaken Defiance

Tonight I used the shiny new butchers scissors the wife bought. Butterflied a fresh chicken. Now so many flavor choices on how to cook it. Oven roast or BBQ?

Oven roast, olive oil coat everything and sprinkle with your favorite herbs - mine being the classic Provencal mix. Preheat to 450 & start your bird for 10 minutes then kick it down to 350 for an hour. Since it’s cut up, flip the bits halfway through. I love oven fried taters with it since they can go in at the same time. Salad alongside and a dry white wine too.

:D

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mmmirele  May 13, 2018 • 5:11:19pm

I laid down for a nap, then did some embroidery for a while on my profane pillowcase, and then I checked Twitter.

Josh Marshall had posted yesterday about something Jeanine Pirro said. (Not going to call her judge, not not not.)

So I responded with a tart theopolitical observation. (It used to be 10 words, but I somehow managed to get it down to eight. I don’t know what I removed.)

I couldn’t figure out what I did to get a bunch of likes on it, until I saw that Marshall had retweeted it.

But seriously, folks, our foreign policy with regards to the Middle East is being driven by a bunch of Rapture nuts who think Jesus is going to come back Really Soon Now. This is not foreign policy, this is madness.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 13, 2018 • 5:12:37pm

re: #431 William Lewis

Oven roast, olive oil coat everything and sprinkle with your favorite herbs - mine being the classic Provencal mix. Preheat to 450 & start your bird for 10 minutes then kick it down to 350 for an hour. Since it’s cut up, flip the bits halfway through. I love oven fried taters with it since they can go in at the same time. Salad alongside and a dry white wine too.

:D

Winner. Long time since I went French dinner. Thanks!

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William Lewis  May 13, 2018 • 5:15:26pm

re: #433 Unshaken Defiance

Winner. Long time since I went French dinner. Thanks!

I’m a farm boy; I know peasant food :D

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 5:16:31pm

re: #432 mmmirele

I laid down for a nap, then did some embroidery for a while on my profane pillowcase, and then I checked Twitter.

Josh Marshall had posted yesterday about something Jeanine Pirro said. (Not going to call her judge, not not not.)

So I responded with a tart theopolitical observation. (It used to be 10 words, but I somehow managed to get it down to eight. I don’t know what I removed.)

I couldn’t figure out what I did to get a bunch of likes on it, until I saw that Marshall had retweeted it.

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But seriously, folks, our foreign policy with regards to the Middle East is being driven by a bunch of Rapture nuts who think Jesus is going to come back Really Soon Now. This is not foreign policy, this is madness.

Yeah it’s insane.

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Chrysicat  May 13, 2018 • 5:16:36pm
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Stanley Sea  May 13, 2018 • 5:17:31pm

re: #428 Joe Bacon 🌹

Food Break—Went to Nick’s Coffee Shop on Pico in Los Angeles for lunch.

Their Denver Omelette is tasty!!!!!!

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No one is commenting on the pineapple?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 13, 2018 • 5:18:04pm

re: #437 Stanley Sea

No one is commenting on the pineapple?

It’s not on a pizza, is it?

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Stanley Sea  May 13, 2018 • 5:19:42pm

re: #438 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s not on a pizza, is it?

On an omelette.

Sameish.

Of all the dishes posted by Joe……

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William Lewis  May 13, 2018 • 5:20:18pm

re: #432 mmmirele

The whole rapture fallacy invented by John Darby is the single most evil error infesting Christianity right now. Combine it with the Calvinist garbage of the “prosperity gospel” and you get the poisonous fake that is so much of Christianity in modern America.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 5:20:45pm

re: #437 Stanley Sea

No one is commenting on the pineapple?

The proper garnish for a Denver Omelette is a grilled pineapple ring!

Actually a couple grilled ones were there but I could not resist their siren call for consumption!

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Belafon  May 13, 2018 • 5:22:11pm

re: #375 Citizen K

It’s at the point I’m fucking terrified for November now, since it seems like there’s simply no fucking way to get a message out that doesn’t get twisted into “TRUMP IS GOD, DEMS HAVE BECOME THE LITERAL ANTICHRIST” bullshit. And there are clearly enough wishy washys to ratfuck us in the end if this continues on.

It’s like so much screaming into the wind while their alternate reality gets treated like the only real reality.

And the best way to get around that is GOTV, which is what Perez is concentrating on.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 5:25:19pm

re: #442 Belafon

And the best way to get around that is GOTV, which is what Perez is concentrating on.

He has his work cut out for him since the stacked courts are upholding Voter ID and suppression.

And Perez has to face the continual faction fighting from the Berniebots while the Jill Shills are getting more Greens on the ballot to split the vote.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 5:26:04pm

re: #439 Stanley Sea

On an omelette.

Sameish.

Of all the dishes posted by Joe……

One of these days I’ll find a dish of pierogis topped with pineapple…

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 5:29:22pm

re: #444 Joe Bacon 🌹

One of these days I’ll find a dish of pierogis topped with pineapple…

Oh hell no.

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ObserverArt  May 13, 2018 • 5:32:39pm

re: #445 HappyWarrior

Oh hell no.

I’m with you! Browned butter, caramelized onions and a little sour cream. I’m a traditionalist.

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Charles Johnson  May 13, 2018 • 5:37:10pm
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Patricia Kayden  May 13, 2018 • 5:37:59pm

re: #415 Joe Bacon 🌹

Lol!!! Can’t stop laughing.

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mmmirele  May 13, 2018 • 5:38:14pm

re: #440 William Lewis

The whole rapture fallacy invented by John Darby is the single most evil error infesting Christianity right now. Combine it with the Calvinist garbage of the “prosperity gospel” and you get the poisonous fake that is so much of Christianity in modern America.

I completely agree with you here. Which is probably why I feel more comfortable standing outside a church on a Sunday with a sign asking for an independent investigation of a coverup of pedophilia within a tiny charismatic Calvinist-infused denomination instead of actually going to church.

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Dave In Austin  May 13, 2018 • 5:41:17pm

Name….

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 5:41:34pm

re: #446 ObserverArt

I’m with you! Browned butter, caramelized onions and a little sour cream. I’m a traditionalist.

Yep. The way Baba would make em.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 5:49:04pm

re: #447 Charles Johnson

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Got a feeling Jimmy is another Russian bot!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 5:49:39pm

re: #409 Stanley Sea

No refrigeration & don’t wash the membrane off? That’s what my friends do
????

yes…and general common sense cleanliness/sanitary mindset in the kitchen and the coop.

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Charles Johnson  May 13, 2018 • 5:53:19pm
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Belafon  May 13, 2018 • 5:56:33pm

Infinity War scored $200M in China on opening weekend.

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Belafon  May 13, 2018 • 6:01:12pm

I just showed my wife “This is America.” She looked up the cars at the end, the one thing we were still curious about. What people are saying is that a lot of the cars have their driver’s door open, thus symbolizing the killing of black drivers by police. That would also explain the age of the cars since minorities tend to own older cars.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 6:02:10pm

re: #429 Stanley Sea

#SAD

Not a mother

you are a very good fur mom

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teleskiguy  May 13, 2018 • 6:04:45pm
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BeachDem  May 13, 2018 • 6:05:06pm

re: #457 Backwoods_Sleuth

you are a very good fur mom

Dayum, then I’m a total loser—no mom, no kids, no pets (no living plants).

(But I do support a lot of charities and causes, so there’s that.)

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The Vicious Babushka  May 13, 2018 • 6:05:19pm

re: #418 wheat-dogg

I understand the chord progressions can be different. I was thinking more about the verse-chorus structure, which is pretty common among pop songs. I’m not enough of a musician to express what I mean very well, but it’s similar to how you can sing Stairway to Heaven to the tune of Gilligan’s Island (or vice versa).

But I gotta admit, hearing the Carly Mae Jepson song superimposed over the video is rather disturbing. I’m reasonably sure Glover had that in mind when he created his song and the video to go with it.

This will make you throw up in your mouth.
He peeped on all these girls while they were naked.

Donald Trump-Call Me Maybe

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retired cynic  May 13, 2018 • 6:06:06pm

re: #429 Stanley Sea

#SAD

Not a mother

I figure I have delivered enough foals (not to mention a few litters of kittens) to earn an honorary title.

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teleskiguy  May 13, 2018 • 6:10:33pm

re: #124 A Mom Anon

mlTjVWOzc6wSwsDNdxhE7PPV/izJBde/

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William Lewis  May 13, 2018 • 6:10:54pm

re: #449 mmmirele

I completely agree with you here. Which is probably why I feel more comfortable standing outside a church on a Sunday with a sign asking for an independent investigation of a coverup of pedophilia within a tiny charismatic Calvinist-infused denomination instead of actually going to church.

It is certainly more Christian than the pretense of worship inside.

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The Major  May 13, 2018 • 6:13:52pm

A good long read over at The Guardian: The unwelcome revival of Race Science

And the conservative wing is ramming that down everybody’s throats as if it were a real science….

Andrew Sullivan deserves a special place in hell for bringing “The Bell Curve” to any prominence.

-spit-

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Stanley Sea  May 13, 2018 • 6:13:58pm

Not to be misunderstood, no regrets at ALL for no motherhooding human life.

My kit is enough. She’s on the window sill in the sun. First time I’ve seen during the day!! She must have felt my dismay when I was typing about her 4” space. Plus treats.

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BigPapa  May 13, 2018 • 6:17:22pm

re: #447 Charles Johnson

Nice that Kristol is getting on the LGF bandwagon!

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retired cynic  May 13, 2018 • 6:17:29pm

And down the thread:

Lisa 🤬
@TheTexasLisa
Follow Follow @TheTexasLisa
More
Replying to @thistallawkgirl
Resting Picasso Face has earned our loathing, as they all have.

That is just cruel. And accurate.

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 6:19:09pm

re: #467 retired cynic

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And down the thread:

Lisa 🤬
@TheTexasLisa
Follow Follow @TheTexasLisa
More
Replying to @thistallawkgirl
Resting Picasso Face has earned our loathing, as they all have.

That is just cruel. And accurate.

Agreed.

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Patricia Kayden  May 13, 2018 • 6:20:40pm

re: #256 Anymouse 🌹

Wow. I’ve heard that Alberta is a conservative province but hope that that woman isn’t representative of its populace.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 13, 2018 • 6:20:53pm

The moron needs to just STFU

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Patricia Kayden  May 13, 2018 • 6:21:57pm

re: #470 Backwoods_Sleuth

Changes like bringing back torture and Muslim bans, right Donny?

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BeachDem  May 13, 2018 • 6:22:17pm

Well this will make you puke:

Va. election officials assigned 26 voters to the wrong district. It might’ve cost Democrats a pivotal race.

It was the Yancey/Simonds election decided by picking the name out of a bowl.

Now, a review of voter registration records and district maps by The Washington Post has found more than two dozen voters — enough to swing the outcome of that race — cast ballots in the wrong district, because of errors by local elections officials.

The misassigned voters lived in a predominantly African American precinct that heavily favored Democrats in the fall, raising the possibility that they would have delivered the district to Simonds had they voted in the proper race.

washingtonpost.com

Looks like it was not a malicious error, but crikey—maybe Virginia should hire the WaPo to organize their voter info.

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 6:24:08pm

re: #470 Backwoods_Sleuth

The moron needs to just STFU

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Considering you suck off the NRA after every gun tragedy, Shut the fuck up Donny.

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HappyWarrior  May 13, 2018 • 6:24:51pm

re: #472 BeachDem

Well this will make you puke:

Va. election officials assigned 26 voters to the wrong district. It might’ve cost Democrats a pivotal race.

It was the Yancey/Simonds election decided by picking the name out of a bowl.

Now, a review of voter registration records and district maps by The Washington Post has found more than two dozen voters — enough to swing the outcome of that race — cast ballots in the wrong district, because of errors by local elections officials.

The misassigned voters lived in a predominantly African American precinct that heavily favored Democrats in the fall, raising the possibility that they would have delivered the district to Simonds had they voted in the proper race.

washingtonpost.com

Looks like it was not a malicious error, but crikey—maybe Virginia should hire the WaPo to organize their voter info.

Fuck.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 13, 2018 • 6:41:01pm

re: #469 Patricia Kayden

Wow. I’ve heard that Alberta is a conservative province but hope that that woman isn’t representative of its populace.

I thought the New Democratic Party kicked out the Tories in their last provincial election.

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Stanley Sea  May 13, 2018 • 6:50:52pm

And I’m at my favorite The Crown ep. S1E9

(2nd favorite was the baby bird crunch in France)

Winston Churchill (John Lithgow) gets his portrait painted. The dialog is exceptional. So excited to watch again.

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Romantic Heretic  May 13, 2018 • 7:12:56pm

re: #440 William Lewis

It’s so far removed from Christianity it’s why I call it ‘the American faith’.

I figure in a few years they’ll stop even pretending to be Christian and make it official.


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