Senate Judiciary Committee: Russia Funneled Money Through the NRA to Help Trump Steal the Presidency

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The dirt just keeps being uncovered, in the greatest theft in the history of US politics: Kremlin Used NRA to Help Trump in 2016, Senate Report Says.

Documents suggest the Kremlin used the NRA to offer the campaign a back channel to Moscow—including a potential meeting between Trump and Vladimir Putin—and might have secretly funded Trump’s campaign, the committee said. One of the Russians named in the report even bragged she was part of the Trump campaign’s communications with Russia, The Daily Beast reported last year.

The NRA spent a record $30 million on Trump and the FBI is reportedly investigating whether any of the money came from Russia. U.S. law prohibits foreign money to be spent on elections.

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2018 • 11:19:09am
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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 11:20:26am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2018 • 11:21:13am

His hands are too small to grip an AR-15 stock

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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2018 • 11:21:45am
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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2018 • 11:22:16am

These scumbags.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 16, 2018 • 11:23:40am

So we now know that NRA = Normalizing Russian Association!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2018 • 11:23:41am

The NRA spent a record $30 million on Trump and the FBI is reportedly investigating whether any of the money came from Russia. U.S. law prohibits foreign money to be spent on elections.

In an amazing set-up worthy of a James O’Keefe, somebody once had a Canadian purchase a Hillary T-shirt at a rally and then immediately “bust” her for international campaign finance law violations.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2018 • 11:25:23am

…well this is it, from now on it’s “Vodka Donald”

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 16, 2018 • 11:27:39am

Re: The Texas mass murder at a house…

Guess it was a gun-free zone. :-\

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 16, 2018 • 11:28:40am

Will Slumlord Sean go after Richard Burr tonight?

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2018 • 11:30:33am

re: #1 gocart mozart

Amy Klobuchar

@amyklobuchar
Breaking: the U.S. Senate just voted 52-47 vote on the bill to restore #NetNeutrality and to protect a fair and open internet. Amazing victory for consumers, small businesses and rural communities. Final vote at 3. Watch on CSpan!
12:05 PM - May 16, 2018
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The fact that it was only 52-47 is troubling. It should be at least 90-10. Will any of the GOP defect for this afternoon’s vote?

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Belafon  May 16, 2018 • 11:31:38am

re: #11 Hecuba’s daughter

The fact that it was only 52-47 is troubling. It should be at least 90-10. Will any of the GOP defect for this afternoon’s vote?

It’s troubling but not surprising. AT&T, Verizon, and Comcast have a lot of money riding on ending net neutrality.

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William Lewis  May 16, 2018 • 11:37:39am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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Bet the Russians are happy to pay that …

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 11:39:51am
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KGxvi  May 16, 2018 • 11:40:49am

re: #1 gocart mozart

Reached for comment, Speaker Ryan said, “yeah, that’s great, but my Super PAC coordinator is in that room getting a check from AT&T and Comcast for about three million dollars, so that resolution won’t be coming to the floor of the House… oh, shit, did I say that out loud?”

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2018 • 11:43:11am
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William Lewis  May 16, 2018 • 11:44:09am

re: #15 KGxvi

Reached for comment, Speaker Ryan said, “yeah, that’s great, but my Super PAC coordinator is in that room getting a check from AT&T and Comcast for about three million dollars, so that resolution won’t be coming to the floor of the House… oh, shit, did I say that out loud?”

It wouldn’t matter if he said it out loud; SCOTUS has already made bribery of elected officials perfectly legal.

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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 11:45:06am

I feel you Hugh.

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2018 • 11:46:14am
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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 11:47:50am
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Belafon  May 16, 2018 • 11:48:37am

re: #18 JordanRules

I feel you Hugh.

The Brexit people are acting like LBJ: They’re going to stick with it to the end even if it’s the wrong decision.

(And yes, I know Johnson’s whole story with Vietnam is more complicated.)

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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 11:49:59am
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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 11:51:17am

re: #21 Belafon

The Brexit people are acting like Johnson: They’re going to stick with it to the end even if it’s the wrong decision.

They really are. I had hope they’d pull back from the brink, but it appears not.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2018 • 11:51:52am

re: #19 gocart mozart

Ivan Konstantinovich Aivazovsky (1817-1900) was a Russian Romantic painter who is considered one of the greatest masters of marine art

one of my all-time Russian faves…

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2018 • 11:52:23am

re: #16 gocart mozart

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Good read.

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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 11:56:34am
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gocart mozart  May 16, 2018 • 11:56:45am
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ObserverArt  May 16, 2018 • 11:59:30am

re: #1 gocart mozart

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YAY!

A win for the little guys in this country.

I wonder if the disclosure of the ATT money going to Trump might have changed a vote or two?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2018 • 12:01:08pm

re: #25 HappyWarrior

Good read.

granted, there are people who shout “racist” and “fascist” at everything they get upset about and there are people who go out of their way to find things to take offense at, but calling someone out for supporting an open racist or fascist, especially when that person is marching with a Confederate battle flag and swastika at a demonstration is not overreacting.

And sorry, people, white supremacy and fascism are not just points along the accepted political spectrum, they are ideologies that are anathema to the values that our nation stands for, they are things that Americans have died fighting against.

If having someone point that out to you somehow rankles, it is not a case of smug elitism on their part, it is a part of bigotry and ignorance on yours.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 16, 2018 • 12:01:11pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

$2,899 per month! That’s nuts. Are they determined to kill third party apps?

Maybe they’re desperate for income. I’d work around via screen-scraping and posting via the web page in the background. It would use a lot more of Twitter’s bandwidth than the API, but that’s Twitter’s problem.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2018 • 12:01:39pm

re: #17 William Lewis

It wouldn’t matter if he said it out loud; SCOTUS has already made bribery of elected officials perfectly legal.

If we ever gain control of SCOTUS again, maybe some of these reprehensible decisions can be reversed.

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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 12:02:02pm

Watching CSPAN2 for final Net Neutrality vote now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2018 • 12:02:32pm

re: #23 JordanRules

They really are. I had hope they’d pull back from the brink, but it appears not.

They still have every chance, but it would really mean that the entire Tory party would have to step down in shame, just like owning up to the disaster that Trump is would mean that half of the GOP would have to retire.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2018 • 12:02:47pm
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MsJ  May 16, 2018 • 12:02:50pm

re: #27 gocart mozart

What is this Yanny/Laurel think about? I’ve read a couple of things and still don’t get it. Anyone?

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Belafon  May 16, 2018 • 12:04:22pm

re: #35 MsJ

What is this Yanny/Laurel think about? I’ve read a couple of things and still don’t get it. Anyone?

It’s an audio thing similar to the white/blue dress thing. Come to find out, listening isn’t exact, which should surprise no one.

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Belafon  May 16, 2018 • 12:04:56pm

re: #33 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They still have every chance, but it would really mean that the entire Tory party would have to step down in shame, just like owning up to the disaster that Trump is would mean that half of the GOP would have to retire.

Instead, we’re going to have to vote them out.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2018 • 12:05:13pm

re: #35 MsJ

What is this Yanny/Laurel think about? I’ve read a couple of things and still don’t get it. Anyone?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2018 • 12:05:26pm

re: #27 gocart mozart

#NetNeutrality means you can use the internet how you (not some company) see fit - even if that’s debating about #Yanny & #Laurel. #SaveTheInternet

(It’s “Laurel”, by the way)

I heard Yanny until I turned down the high end of the EQ and then I started to hear Laurel, it really is like the two faces or chalice illusion…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2018 • 12:07:12pm

re: #35 MsJ

What is this Yanny/Laurel think about? I’ve read a couple of things and still don’t get it. Anyone?

it is a sound recording…and if you are more sensitive to high frequencies you hear the name “yanny”, but if you hear more at the low end you hear “laurel”…I was full-on yanny until I fiddled with the EQ bands and took out the high end…amazing

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Belafon  May 16, 2018 • 12:08:14pm

re: #16 gocart mozart

Every Democrat should play Danganrompa v3.

Near the end of it, you, as the player, have to refuse to play anymore for part of it. You actually have to not play the in-game games that come up in order to advance the story.

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KGxvi  May 16, 2018 • 12:08:46pm

re: #31 Hecuba’s daughter

If we ever gain control of SCOTUS again, maybe some of these reprehensible decisions can be reversed.

It’s a lot more complicated than that. You also need majorities in Congress and a president willing to sign campaign finance legislation. Then you need judges/justices willing to find the new campaign finance law constitutional.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 16, 2018 • 12:10:30pm

Just paged the unfolding saga of Candace Owens, the darling of the RWNJs because she was willing to denounce Democrats and say racist things about other black people for that sweet, sweet Wingnut Welfare gravy train.

This video endeared her to all the RWNJs, who collectively suffer from a massive inferiority complex because, well, they know they are intellectually inferior

Judging by The Daily Caller’s reactions, Candace is about to find herself as abandoned, lonely and unemployable as Milo.

She refused to provide The Daily Caller with any evidence that the Buzzfeed reporter, Joseph Bernstein, had threatened the young women if they did not cooperate with his report.

BuzzFeed denies the accusations entirely and told The Daily Caller that Owens is “smearing a reporter.”

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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2018 • 12:12:45pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2018 • 12:12:59pm

Grrr. These BernieBro anti-Hillary people are as on board with Russia as the GOP and Trump supporters. I wrote a comment on a FB thread of an IRL acquaintance of mine stating that Putin is a venomous murderous KGB thug — and her response is that I am am getting this from the MSM — because we are the good guys and they are the bad guys — and a continuing rant. Earlier she asserted we only get propaganda here and must read outside, especially EU papers. She apparently is fond of Information Clearing House, which supports Assange.

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Weaselone  May 16, 2018 • 12:13:35pm

re: #38 The Vicious Babushka

Crap. What does it mean if you initially hear one then it switches to the other and stays that way?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 16, 2018 • 12:13:52pm

re: #33 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They still have every chance, but it would really mean that the entire Tory party would have to step down in shame, just like owning up to the disaster that Trump is would mean that half of the GOP would have to retire.

The EU seemed to be all: “You made your bed, etc.” But now I can see an opening on the basis that the civilized world needs to stand together against tRump’s USA….

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Kragar  May 16, 2018 • 12:14:11pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 16, 2018 • 12:14:25pm

re: #38 The Vicious Babushka

This Yanny/ Lauren thing sounds like it would be useful as an audio captcha to keep either young or old people out of a website.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2018 • 12:14:54pm

re: #46 Weaselone

Crap. What does it mean if you initially hear one then it switches to the other and stays that way?

It means that you can hear both ends of the range…that happened to me as well…it is like looking at an optical illusion and seeing both duck and bunny

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 16, 2018 • 12:15:00pm

re: #46 Weaselone

Crap. What does it mean if you initially hear one then it switches to the other and stays that way?

Brain tumor.

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Dave In Austin  May 16, 2018 • 12:15:29pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2018 • 12:16:08pm

re: #47 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The EU seemed to be all: “You made your bed, etc.” But now I can see an opening on the basis that the civilized world needs to stand together against tRump’s USA….

yes, especially if Trump really follows through on secondary sanctions for continuing to trade with Iran

but if the UK wants free flow of goods and capital, it has to accept the free movement of people

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meteor  May 16, 2018 • 12:17:57pm
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MsJ  May 16, 2018 • 12:18:34pm

re: #38 The Vicious Babushka

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Ah! So nothing of importance. I saw politicians talking about this so I thought it was something quoted from testimony or something.

Thanks guys!

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Dr Lizardo  May 16, 2018 • 12:19:05pm

re: #53 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

yes, especially if Trump really follows through on secondary sanctions for continuing to trade with Iran

but if the UK wants free flow of goods and capital, it has to accept the free movement of people

It’s one helluva dilemma for PM May. Brexit is the UK’s Kobayashi Maru scenario come to life.

And there’s no James T. Kirk to re-program the simulator.

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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 12:19:15pm
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Kragar  May 16, 2018 • 12:21:16pm
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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 12:22:34pm

U.S. Justice Department Special Counsel Robert Mueller has issued two subpoenas to a social media expert who worked for longtime Donald Trump adviser Roger Stone during the 2016 presidential election campaign.

The subpoenas were delivered late last week to lawyers representing Jason Sullivan, a social media and Twitter specialist Stone hired to work for an independent political action committee he set up to support Trump, Knut Johnson, a lawyer for Sullivan, told Reuters on Tuesday.

The subpoenas suggest that Mueller, who is probing Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. presidential election, is focusing in part on Stone and whether he might have had advance knowledge of material allegedly hacked by Russian intelligence and sent to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, who published it.

mobile.reuters.com

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Belafon  May 16, 2018 • 12:22:54pm

re: #55 MsJ

Ah! So nothing of importance. I saw politicians talking about this so I thought it was something quoted from testimony or something.

Thanks guys!

It just means they’re hip.

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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2018 • 12:23:29pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2018 • 12:23:49pm

re: #56 Dr Lizardo

It’s one helluva dilemma for PM May. Brexit is the UK’s Kobayashi Maru scenario come to life.

And there’s no James T. Kirk to re-program the simulator.

I suspect they are going to wind up with a situation much like before except that the UK will not be able to influence any of the rules it has to obey…like getting a divorce, except your partner can remarry but you have to remain single…

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 16, 2018 • 12:25:16pm

re: #60 Belafon

It just means they’re hip.

Hey, I’m hep to all the latest jive, Daddy-o! (But I didn’t know what Yanny/Laurel was about, either.)

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2018 • 12:25:40pm

fastcompany.com

On Sunday, Donald Trump Jr. admitted to taking a meeting last summer with a Kremlin-backed Russian lawyer, in hopes of gaining damning info on Hillary Clinton. His father, the President of the United States, quickly respond via a message from his personal attorney’s spokesman (!!!), claiming Trump himself “was unaware of the meeting and did not attend it.” That may indeed be the case, but as it turns out, Trump has more than a passing familiarity with the players behind the now-infamous meeting.Junior said the rendezvous was set up by “an acquaintance I knew from the 2013 Miss Universe pageant,” later revealed to be music publicist Rob Goldstone. As ThinkProgress points out:

“Goldstone told the Post that ‘he had arranged the meeting at request of a Russian client.’ He refused to disclose the name of the client, but Goldstone is the manager for a Russian pop singer named Emin Agalarov.”

Video of Emin with Trump cameo, way to cover your tracks, Dollhands.

EMIN In Another Life Official Music Video ft. Donald Trump and Miss Universe 2013 Contestants

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2018 • 12:25:51pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

If you take a step back and look at all the evidence that’s been uncovered of corruption, malfeasance and sheer incompetence among Trump’s gang of villains, it’s absolutely horrifying that he’s still in office, continuing to lay waste to US institutions. How long will this go on?]

The evidence of illegal activity is there in front of our faces: conflicts of interest, violations of the Emoluments Clause, obstruction of justice, etc., all that is lacking is the political will to act on it.

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Dr Lizardo  May 16, 2018 • 12:26:55pm

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I suspect they are going to wind up with a situation much like before except that the UK will not be able to influence any of the rules it has to obey…like getting a divorce, except your partner can remarry but you have to remain single…

The logical thing to do would be to pull the plug on Brexit. Rescind Article 50 (and I’m pretty sure the rest of the EU would go along with it) and say, “Oops. We fucked up and we’ll never speak of this again”.

But…..that would blow up the Tories like nothing else and cause problems in the Labour Party as well (Corbyn is a pretty hard Euroskeptic himself).

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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2018 • 12:27:24pm
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BeachDem  May 16, 2018 • 12:28:56pm

re: #52 Dave In Austin

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Didn’t We ~ Johnny Mathis ~ HD

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2018 • 12:29:55pm

re: #66 Dr Lizardo

The logical thing to do would be to pull the plug on Brexit. Rescind Article 50 (and I’m pretty sure the rest of the EU would go along with it) and say, “Oops. We fucked up and we’ll never speak of this again”.

But…..that would blow up the Tories like nothing else and cause problems in the Labour Party as well (Corbyn is a pretty hard Euroskeptic himself).

They had every chance to do that: remember that the Brexit referendum was not binding, it was a request for Parliament to enact Article 50. They could have reconsidered and ignored the outcome, but that would have been a major embarrassment for all involved. And now that the die is cast, there is even less chance of turning back.

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KGxvi  May 16, 2018 • 12:31:40pm

re: #56 Dr Lizardo

It’s one helluva dilemma for PM May. Brexit is the UK’s Kobayashi Maru scenario come to life.

And there’s no James T. Kirk to re-program the simulator.

Polling seems to suggest that the UK is still fairly evenly split on Brexit. So perhaps the answer is to continue negotiating and then do another referendum on whether to accept the negotiated terms?

Either that or going to the Queen and asking her to withhold royal assent?

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MsJ  May 16, 2018 • 12:31:58pm

re: #66 Dr Lizardo

The logical thing to do would be to pull the plug on Brexit. Rescind Article 50 (and I’m pretty sure the rest of the EU would go along with it) and say, “Oops. We fucked up and we’ll never speak of this again”.

But…..that would blow up the Tories like nothing else and cause problems in the Labour Party as well (Corbyn is a pretty hard Euroskeptic himself).

They could certainly call for another referendum, though.

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MsJ  May 16, 2018 • 12:32:38pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Dude. Why?

(Shudder)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2018 • 12:32:50pm

re: #70 KGxvi

Polling seems to suggest that the UK is still fairly evenly split on Brexit. So perhaps the answer is to continue negotiating and then do another referendum on whether to accept the negotiated terms?

Either that or going to the Queen and asking her to withhold royal assent?

That sounds like a reasonable way to save face…

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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 12:34:19pm

re: #71 MsJ

They could certainly call for another referendum, though.

The disinfo campaign (and maybe hacking) ramping up again, even worse than last time, would scare me.

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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 12:35:22pm

Thread.

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KGxvi  May 16, 2018 • 12:35:28pm

re: #73 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That sounds like a reasonable way to save face…

The second referendum or ceding power to the Queen that hasn’t been used in centuries?

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goddamnedfrank  May 16, 2018 • 12:36:36pm

So Strzock covered up the Russia investigation to help Trump, McCabe wrongly leaked info to the press about an inquiry into Clinton’s emails and Comey rat-fucked Clinton a week before the election but we’re supposed to believe they’re all part of some deep state conspiracy against Trump? They did everything they possibly could to get him elected and Trump turned on them when Comey refused to pledge personal loyalty and kill the Flynn investigation.

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Belafon  May 16, 2018 • 12:38:10pm

re: #74 JordanRules

The disinfo campaign (and maybe hacking) ramping up again, even worse than last time, would scare me.

Maybe those who want to turn it over will mimic what Democrats have done since 2016, and working on getting supporters out to vote. I think there will be a few more people vote to stay after realizing what is actually happening. Remember those that thought it was going to lose so they were protest voting?

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Kragar  May 16, 2018 • 12:38:45pm
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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 12:39:09pm

re: #78 Belafon

Maybe those who want to turn it over will mimic what Democrats have done since 2016, and working on getting supporters out to vote. I think there will be a few more people vote to stay after realizing what is actually happening. Remember those that thought it was going to lose so they were protest voting?

Good point about all the protest votes.

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KGxvi  May 16, 2018 • 12:39:54pm

re: #75 JordanRules

I don’t believe that our criminal justice system is broken, but it is deeply flawed. Public defenders are grossly under-resourced. So much of the system is weighted against defendants, from the relationships between police, crime labs, and the DA, to the public perception of “if he’s here, he must be guilty” that pop culture often feeds into (it is so rare when the hero is a defense attorney rather than a cop or a DA). But I really don’t know how we fix it.

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Dr Lizardo  May 16, 2018 • 12:40:02pm

re: #71 MsJ

They could….but I think that’s a last-ditch sort of thing. And I really don’t think there’s enough time left for them to do it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2018 • 12:41:17pm

re: #76 KGxvi

The second referendum or ceding power to the Queen that hasn’t been used in centuries?

the referendum but if the Queen openly approved of it, it would send a signal

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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 12:42:00pm

Tallying these Net Neutrality votes now…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2018 • 12:42:25pm

re: #84 JordanRules

Tallying these Net Neutrality votes now…

crossing fingers for America

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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 12:42:48pm

re: #85 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

crossing fingers for America

I’m crossing toes too!

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wrenchwench  May 16, 2018 • 12:46:29pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2018 • 12:47:53pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

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She is just being a responsible mother!

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2018 • 12:49:05pm

re: #86 JordanRules

I’m crossing toes too!

Doesn’t this have to pass the House too?

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Kragar  May 16, 2018 • 12:50:18pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 16, 2018 • 12:50:21pm
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KGxvi  May 16, 2018 • 12:50:29pm

re: #89 Hecuba’s daughter

Doesn’t this have to pass the House too?

And be signed by Trump.

If anything, it’s a campaign issue for the next couple of cycles.

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KGxvi  May 16, 2018 • 12:51:49pm

re: #90 Kragar

From his “platform” page:

While I am looking to represent all US Citizens in California, I am a white advocate.

There is systematic discrimination and incitement against European-descended Americans, and I want to crush manifestations of anti-White racism in US institutions.

Jesus fucking Christ.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2018 • 12:52:33pm

I’m betting the House kills the bill.

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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2018 • 12:53:15pm
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ObserverArt  May 16, 2018 • 12:53:23pm

re: #77 goddamnedfrank

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So Strzock covered up the Russia investigation to help Trump, McCabe wrongly leaked info to the press about an inquiry into Clinton’s emails and Comey rat-fucked Clinton a week before the election but we’re supposed to believe they’re all part of some deep state conspiracy against Trump? They did everything they possibly could to get him elected and Trump turned on them when Comey refused to pledge personal loyalty and kill the Flynn investigation.

Jeebus…that’s not an article, it’s a history book.

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Belafon  May 16, 2018 • 12:54:09pm

re: #92 KGxvi

And be signed by Trump.

If anything, it’s a campaign issue for the next couple of cycles.

And I know some people here, white male millennials, who are only paying attention to this issue.

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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 12:54:49pm

re: #89 Hecuba’s daughter

Doesn’t this have to pass the House too?

Still work to be done for sure. But I do remember when I was told on this here site that we’d never get enough Senators. Big hurdle jumped!

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KGxvi  May 16, 2018 • 12:54:56pm

re: #90 Kragar

Seriously, though, this guy’s platform includes shit like this:

Put to rest the issue of slavery in the US by introducing a bill ending all foreign aid to Israel, and giving the US population of blacks descended of African slaves in the US a one time payment. This payment will be equivalent to the next ten years of aid to Israel divided by the number of recipients. Enshrined in this bill will be a permanent ban on providing foreign aid to Israel, including a death penalty for any politician introducing a bill that would lead to foreign aid to Israel.

And this:

Introduction of a bill to the Senate proposing the immediate dismissal of the necessary number of Jewish jurists that would reduce their representation in federal courts and the supreme court to a number representative of their percentage of the US population.

That part about dismissing Jewish judges is blatantly unconstitutional, but what would you expect from a fascist?

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 16, 2018 • 12:55:13pm

re: #90 Kragar

This was just posted…Sunday…

Jews dominated the African slave trade in the United States, in South America, in North Africa, and in the Middle East. Jews also dominate, to this day, the white slave trade, primarily of young Eastern European Christian girls. The jewish media’s myth that whites controlled the slave trade is based only on Hollywood lies. Whites also historically know the feeling of the crack of the jewish whip, and today, the pain of the breaking houses for young women brought on by jewish gang rapists in Tel Aviv, where our women are spiritually broken before being shipped off to jewish-owned brothels globally. We can oppose slavers, jews, together, and present these supremacists with a united front, and shout in one, unified voice, “Jew, we will no longer be your slaves and your whores!”

I mean…wow…If this is too much feel free to remove but wow.

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Belafon  May 16, 2018 • 12:55:29pm

re: #95 Charles Johnson

It’s going to be funny when they’re not allowed to land at an airport in CA.

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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 12:56:18pm

re: #94 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m betting the House kills the bill.

We’ll do it again after November.

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Kragar  May 16, 2018 • 12:56:37pm

re: #94 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m betting the House kills the bill.

Ryan will never let it come up for a vote

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KGxvi  May 16, 2018 • 12:59:42pm

re: #90 Kragar

Ok, one more from his platform:

Introduce a bill to the US Senate making it illegal to raise funds for any foundation related to the perpetuating of propaganda related to a ‘holocaust’, formally making US’s stance on the holocaust to be that it is a Jewish war atrocity propaganda hoax that never happened.

Introduce legislation restoring immigration policy in the US such that the 1965 Immigration Act is repealed and restoring the policies of the National Origins Act.

Introduce legislation restoring the original intent of the Constitution, explicitly stating that the United States is a ethnically European nation.

Campaign Finance reform: Make it illegal for corporations or lobbies of foreign governments to donate to candidates or political action committees. Outlaw all lobbies except non-profit lobbies that work to protect the Bill of Rights, the first ten amendments to the US Constitution

Apparently the 14th Amendment and the whole concept of equal protection and due process of law doesn’t matter. At least not so long as non-white and non-ethnically European (which, is that even a thing?) might have rights.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2018 • 12:59:59pm

re: #99 KGxvi

Seriously, though, this guy’s platform includes shit like this:

And this:

That part about dismissing Jewish judges is blatantly unconstitutional, but what would you expect from a fascist?

Isn’t it more appropriate to call him a Nazi? I didn’t think fascism itself was as intimately tied to race.

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petesh  May 16, 2018 • 1:00:41pm

re: #83 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

the referendum but if the Queen openly approved of it, it would send a signal

Yeahbut … might also destroy the monarchy. In the “too good to check” department, the last time the monarch directly influenced legislation was when Queen Victoria refused to make lesbian activity illegal, apparently because she didn’t believe it, so for about a century male homosexual acts were illegal but not female.

That’s kind of funny, but note that in England adult (over 21) gay men committed a crime every time they committed “gross indecency” until 1967; even after that, it remained a crime to have a three-way or have sex in a hotel room. Things have gradually got better since, in England and the rest of the UK, largely thanks to … European Human Rights law. Which of course brings us back to Brexit.

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KGxvi  May 16, 2018 • 1:01:48pm

re: #105 Hecuba’s daughter

Isn’t it more appropriate to call him a Nazi? I didn’t think fascism itself was as intimately tied to race.

Fair point, Nazi might be the better descriptor.

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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 1:01:49pm
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KGxvi  May 16, 2018 • 1:06:31pm

re: #106 petesh

Yeahbut … might also destroy the monarchy. In the “too good to check” department, the last time the monarch directly influenced legislation was when Queen Victoria refused to make lesbian activity illegal, apparently because she didn’t believe it, so for about a century male homosexual acts were illegal but not female.

That’s kind of funny, but note that in England adult (over 21) gay men committed a crime every time they committed “gross indecency” until 1967; even after that, it remained a crime to have a three-way or have sex in a hotel room. Things have gradually got better since, in England and the rest of the UK, largely thanks to … European Human Rights law. Which of course brings us back to Brexit.

This is from a couple years ago, but the monarchy remains fairly popular in the UK. That might change if the Queen were to unilaterally stop Brexit, but if it happened with something of a coordinated effort with the government, it might not hurt things all that much.

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goddamnedfrank  May 16, 2018 • 1:08:06pm

re: #105 Hecuba’s daughter

Isn’t it more appropriate to call him a Nazi? I didn’t think fascism itself was as intimately tied to race.

Fascism absolutely was intertwined with race from its inception.

How then was this Fascism born; amid what tumultuous passions, sympathy, hatred, bitterness, and incomprehension? It was not only born in my mind and in my heart; it was not only born in that meeting held in March 1919 in the little hall at Milan; it was born of the profound and perennial need of this our Mediterranean and Aryan race, which felt the essential foundations of its existence threatened by a tragic folly and a mythical tale which today crumbles to pieces, in the very place where it was born (applause).

-Mussolini’s Speech in Bologna, April 3, 1921

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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2018 • 1:08:11pm
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Kragar  May 16, 2018 • 1:08:42pm
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petesh  May 16, 2018 • 1:08:45pm

re: #109 KGxvi

Up to a point. Her Maj might be able to get away with it, but I betcha Charlie couldn’t.

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Kragar  May 16, 2018 • 1:11:01pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2018 • 1:12:00pm

re: #114 Kragar

Oh, fuck you Trump.

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SteelPH  May 16, 2018 • 1:12:42pm

re: #114 Kragar

Stop the world, I wanna get off

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2018 • 1:13:24pm

re: #109 KGxvi

This is from a couple years ago, but the monarchy remains fairly popular in the UK. That might change if the Queen were to unilaterally stop Brexit, but if it happened with something of a coordinated effort with the government, it might not hurt things all that much.

If she comes out in favor of another referendum, that might help tip the scales in favor of reconsidering the outcome, which, like a presidential election in the US would probably look different if we ran it again

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Kragar  May 16, 2018 • 1:14:53pm
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Targetpractice  May 16, 2018 • 1:15:25pm

re: #108 JordanRules

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austin_blue  May 16, 2018 • 1:15:49pm

re: #114 Kragar

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But his base is all, “Yee ha!”.

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Belafon  May 16, 2018 • 1:18:09pm

re: #118 Kragar

“They just can-nazi how we are doing our job properly.”

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Jay C  May 16, 2018 • 1:18:29pm

re: #103 Kragar

Ryan will never let it [Net Neutrality ] come up for a vote

Good: Seems like, from a Tweet I saw above that Nancy Smash The House Minority Leader the Hon. Rep. Pelosi wants to make it an issue: I’m sure that Speaker Ryan will only be too pleased to have to try to committee-kill a popular initiative like NN based primarily on the perception that Republicans have been paid off by AT&T or whoever to push repeal…. real winner, there. ////

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Kragar  May 16, 2018 • 1:19:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 1:20:54pm

re: #90 Kragar

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good grief:

Campaign Slogan: Liberate the US from the Jewish Oligarchy.

While I am looking to represent all US Citizens in California, I am a white advocate.

There is systematic discrimination and incitement against European-descended Americans, and I want to crush manifestations of anti-White racism in US institutions.

O_o

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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2018 • 1:21:22pm
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ObserverArt  May 16, 2018 • 1:23:32pm

re: #116 SteelPH

Stop the world, I wanna get off

I don’t want to get off…I want to hang around to see the fat fucking Orange Asshole go down in the most publicly embarrassing means possible. Total ruin. Jailed and penniless.

And the Republican party and his family can all suffer it too, as they should.

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Belafon  May 16, 2018 • 1:25:18pm

re: #126 ObserverArt

I don’t want to get off…I want to hang around to see the fat fucking Orange Asshole go down in the most publicly embarrassing means possible. Total ruin. Jailed and penniless.

And the Republican party and his family can all suffer it too, as they should.

Us leaving would leave all of these people with no one to stand up for them.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2018 • 1:26:07pm

re: #127 Belafon

Us leaving would leave all of these people with no one to stand up for them.

Agreed, we can’t fight the good fight without willing soldiers.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 16, 2018 • 1:26:31pm
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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 1:27:59pm

re: #125 Charles Johnson

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I need to excuse myself and go puke.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 16, 2018 • 1:30:33pm

re: #99 KGxvi

Seriously, though, this guy’s platform includes shit like this:

And this:And this:

Introduction of a bill to the Senate proposing the immediate dismissal of the necessary number of Jewish jurists that would reduce their representation in federal courts and the supreme court to a number representative of their percentage of the US population.

That part about dismissing Jewish judges is blatantly unconstitutional, but what would you expect from a fascist?

Hmmm. Maybe he’s on to something there. We should start with the largest disproportionate representation, though, by reducing white male representation in the courts to a number representative of their percentage of the US population. I wonder how shitheads like him think they would fare then?

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Dr Lizardo  May 16, 2018 • 1:30:35pm

Time to call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards.

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makeitstop  May 16, 2018 • 1:31:11pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

“Mexico does nothing for us. They do nothing for us. Mexico talks but they do nothing for us. Especially at the border. Certainly don’t help us much on trade, but especially at the border, they do nothing for us.”

So, you’re saying they do nothing for us?
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Kragar  May 16, 2018 • 1:31:39pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 16, 2018 • 1:32:23pm
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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 1:32:45pm

Here’s the 3 who crossed over.

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petesh  May 16, 2018 • 1:33:29pm

re: #135 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

JFC. One is tempted to respond: “no animals, no animals, YOU’RE the animal!”

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BigPapa  May 16, 2018 • 1:33:42pm
…”offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.”

‘Hey, we have dirt Clinton.’
‘Killer, what kind of dirt?’
‘It looks like she’s working with us.’
‘Send it our way!’

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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2018 • 1:34:01pm
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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 1:34:35pm
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goddamnedfrank  May 16, 2018 • 1:34:50pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 16, 2018 • 1:35:20pm
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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 1:37:44pm
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goddamnedfrank  May 16, 2018 • 1:38:05pm
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MsJ  May 16, 2018 • 1:38:53pm

re: #143 JordanRules

I saw the hospital name a few weeks ago and it made want to vomit. I hope the nurses win.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2018 • 1:40:55pm

re: #142 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Kyle Griffin

@kylegriffin1
33m
The Senate has voted 52-47 to reinstate the 2015 net neutrality rules, sending the measure to the House.

Every Democrat voted to reinstate, along with Republicans Murkowski, Kennedy, and Collins.

Jeff “We call BS” Furlington
@FurlingtonJeff
So almost every Republican was bought to work against the will of the American people. The Republican party has been compromised, and is totally-corrupt.
3:35 PM - May 16, 2018
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On this issue, most probably don’t need to be bought; it’s part of the GOP DNA that corporations should be able to do whatever they want with no government supervision.

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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 1:41:37pm
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Kragar  May 16, 2018 • 1:42:53pm
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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 1:44:38pm
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Belafon  May 16, 2018 • 1:44:40pm

re: #148 Kragar

Fact: Bloodletting was a cure for some illnesses.

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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 1:48:13pm
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Targetpractice  May 16, 2018 • 1:48:16pm

re: #150 Belafon

Fact: Bloodletting was a cure for some illnesses.

As was injections of mercury.

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Belafon  May 16, 2018 • 1:50:23pm

re: #151 JordanRules

Anyone else noticing how many of these are white women?

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2018 • 1:52:29pm

re: #143 JordanRules

Santa Cruz Sentinel ✔
@scsentinel
Nurses rally to strip Facebook founder’s name from San Francisco hospital dlvr.it

4:09 PM - May 16, 2018

Ah, hahahahahahahahahaaaa.

A blow to the ego of Mark Zuckerberg.

A good thing.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 16, 2018 • 1:52:33pm

re: #150 Belafon

Fact: Bloodletting was a cure for some illnesses.

Still is, for polycythemia and…nah, that’s about it.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 16, 2018 • 1:53:17pm

re: #90 Kragar

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Poor stupid sap. Doesn’t he realize that Jews control the asteroid re-directing technology? There’s one headed for his hovel right now.
(For lurkers who may not know, it’s a long-range development of their tsunami-earthquake machine.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 1:53:51pm

such a moron:

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2018 • 1:53:56pm

re: #146 Hecuba’s daughter

On this issue, most probably don’t need to be bought; it’s part of the GOP DNA that corporations should be able to do whatever they want with no government supervision.

Lazy Fairies.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2018 • 1:55:16pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lou just got the kiss of death.

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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2018 • 1:59:28pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 16, 2018 • 1:59:37pm

re: #151 JordanRules

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OK, this is starting to look like a—I don’t want to say “organized”—campaign, but something that’s been specifically suggested from somewhere….

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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 2:00:38pm

re: #161 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

OK, this is starting to look like a—I don’t want to say “organized”—campaign, but something that’s been specifically suggested from somewhere….

Yeah. It’s viral at the very least.

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Dave In Austin  May 16, 2018 • 2:01:55pm
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goddamnedfrank  May 16, 2018 • 2:03:24pm

I’m calling it, today is officially over.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2018 • 2:04:55pm

re: #164 goddamnedfrank

I’m calling it, today is officially over.

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And we were doing so well for awhile there too.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 16, 2018 • 2:06:09pm

SEE IT: White man threatens to call ICE on Spanish-speaking workers at Midtown Fresh Kitchen

Si lo desea, puede llamar a ICE y reportarme ahora. Voy a esperar por ellos.

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Jay C  May 16, 2018 • 2:06:39pm

re: #164 goddamnedfrank

I’m calling it, today is officially over.

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At Tim Horton’s??
In CANADA?????

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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2018 • 2:07:10pm

re: #164 goddamnedfrank

Chuck C. Johnson’s long-lost sister.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 2:07:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 2:10:28pm
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Belafon  May 16, 2018 • 2:10:41pm

re: #166 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

SEE IT: White man threatens to call ICE on Spanish-speaking workers at Midtown Fresh Kitchen

Si lo desea, puede llamar a ICE y reportarme ahora. Voy a esperar por ellos.

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I have at least made it far enough in my Spanish studies to translate your statement.

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wrenchwench  May 16, 2018 • 2:11:36pm

Trump doesn’t have the mental capacity to imagine the billion dollars PER DAY in trade crossing the border that we share with Mexico.

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William Lewis  May 16, 2018 • 2:14:38pm

re: #156 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Poor stupid sap. Doesn’t he realize that Jews control the asteroid re-directing technology? There’s one headed for his hovel right now.
(For lurkers who may not know, it’s a long-range development of their tsunami-earthquake machine.)

I really started laughing when I imagined some young person coming here today for the first time and seeing that post while knowing nothing of you… That’s funny.

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petesh  May 16, 2018 • 2:17:12pm

re: #171 Belafon

I have at least made it far enough in my Spanish studies to translate your statement.

From the linked article, the asshole is identified as Aaron Schlossberg, 42:

… The front desk at Schlossberg’s Madison Ave. office building was turning away all visitors at his request, and the phones in the office were turned off.
Someone answering the phone at his Manhattan residence hung up without saying a word when called by a reporter.

I like that. Get out my reality, you jerk.

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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 2:18:09pm
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ObserverArt  May 16, 2018 • 2:22:06pm

re: #161 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

OK, this is starting to look like a—I don’t want to say “organized”—campaign, but something that’s been specifically suggested from somewhere….

We’ve been kicking that around for a bit.

Even if (big if) it isn’t coordinated, this might be an example of social media creep…and how it can spread nasty stuff to people that want to take it to heart and be nasty.

See the woman in Oakland call the cops on Blacks in a park and her getting all these images and mentions on Twitter and Facebook and think, I’d liked to get some of that.

Is it like the worry about media saying to much about a spree killer gives him some amount of public exposure and makes others want to go out and get their piece of attention too.

In other words, this could all be copycat too.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 16, 2018 • 2:26:18pm

re: #176 ObserverArt

We’ve been kicking that around for a bit.

Even if (big if) it isn’t coordinated, this might be an example of social media creep…and how it can spread nasty stuff to people that want to take it to heart and be nasty.

See the woman in Oakland call the cops on Blacks in a park and her getting all these images and mentions on Twitter and Facebook and think, I’d liked to get some of that.

Is it like the worry about media saying to much about a spree killer gives him some amount of public exposure and makes others want to go out and get their piece of attention too.

In other words, this could all be copycat too.

Social media creep or: Creep Social Media™—new business opportunity for Zuckerberg?

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Belafon  May 16, 2018 • 2:27:16pm

re: #161 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

OK, this is starting to look like a—I don’t want to say “organized”—campaign, but something that’s been specifically suggested from somewhere….

I see two possibilities, that aren’t mutually exclusive:
1. A lot of whites have decided now is their time. If they don’t do it now, they may be forced to keep it in check again.
2. We’re seeing a whole lot of things that happen to minorities every day, it’s just become fashionable for the media to report them.

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2018 • 2:27:53pm

re: #172 wrenchwench

Trump doesn’t have the mental capacity to imagine the billion dollars PER DAY in trade crossing the border that we share with Mexico.

Simplifying a bit.

It makes it more all-purpose.

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whitebeach  May 16, 2018 • 2:28:51pm

re: #166 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

SEE IT: White man threatens to call ICE on Spanish-speaking workers at Midtown Fresh Kitchen

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Most of the Spanish-speaking people in NYC are Puerto Ricans, and therefore U.S. citizens, which makes this jerk threatening to call ICE on them an even bigger idiot.

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Mike Lamb  May 16, 2018 • 2:30:10pm

re: #180 whitebeach

Most of the Spanish-speaking people in NYC are Puerto Ricans, and therefore U.S. citizens, which makes this jerk threatening to call ICE on them an even bigger idiot.

I’d guess that most of the Spanish speaking people in the country are US citizens.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 16, 2018 • 2:30:36pm

re: #90 Kragar

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Seriously, this is probably someone who has not done as well in life as his parents, or feels that he hasn’t.
That has been my experience with conspiracists in general and with right wing antisemites in particular. Lubbock’s “Mossad blew up the WTC” guy, for example, is the son of a famous surgeon. He has called himself an investment adviser but the only investments he can offer are an assortment of MLM schemes. Another prominent conspiracist I know is in his 60s now and has never had a paying job in his life. He comes from a prominent ranching family and lives in a dilapidated house he inherited, on what appears to be a dwindling trust fund.
The common thread here is the fear of losing birthright privilege and a compelling need to avoid responsibility for failure.

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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 2:32:44pm

re: #180 whitebeach

Most of the Spanish-speaking people in NYC are Puerto Ricans, and therefore U.S. citizens, which makes this jerk threatening to call ICE on them an even bigger idiot.

I think Dominicans might be the majority now.

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2018 • 2:33:32pm

re: #181 Mike Lamb

I’d guess that most of the Spanish speaking people in the country are US citizens.

Problem is many cranky White people think speaking in another language disqualifies citizenship and want them kicked out.

And there is zero rationality involved. This is all deeply ingrained hate.

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wrenchwench  May 16, 2018 • 2:35:14pm

re: #182 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

[…]

The common thread here is the fear of losing birthright privilege and a compelling need to avoid responsibility for failure.

Their desperation is showing. Even Trump’s. The surprise to me is that he has been holding it in, until he used the ‘animals’ line today.

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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 2:35:50pm

I’m scouring for funny content cause today was another rough day.
*deep sigh*

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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 2:37:42pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 16, 2018 • 2:38:20pm

re: #181 Mike Lamb

I’d guess that most of the Spanish speaking people in the country are US citizens.

I’ve spoken Spanish since I was a child. It was pretty common in rural California and semi-urban Texas where I lived. Nobody thought anything of it until about the last 10 years or so. It was a great help in my working life. It has taken on a distinctly political cast now, with non-speakers thinking I am some kind of cuck or sell out for doing so.

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sauceruney  May 16, 2018 • 2:40:01pm

re: #41 Belafon

I’ve only ever watched the anime. I didn’t realize it was a game!

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2018 • 2:40:20pm

re: #187 JordanRules

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Yeah because those things never happened before.

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2018 • 2:41:14pm

re: #185 wrenchwench

Their desperation is showing. Even Trump’s. The surprise to me is that he has been holding it in, until he used the ‘animals’ line today.

I’d count that as being very practiced at deception. He’s had a full life of it. A snake in the grass until it strikes.

Another reason any lawyer he has wants to keep him away from Mueller. If you get him going he is going to let all the covers off and let it fly.

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whitebeach  May 16, 2018 • 2:42:12pm

re: #184 ObserverArt

Problem is many cranky White people think speaking in another language disqualifies citizenship and want them kicked out.

And there is zero rationality involved. This is all deeply ingrained hate.

One of my favorite anecdotes on this subject (I have no idea whether it’s true or not) appeared here on LGF a while back. Some ranting white guy like the one in the vid berates a young woman in Arizona for speaking Spanish on her phone. “This is America, not Mexico, learn to speak English, not Spanish!” The woman interrupts her conversation long enough to tell him, “I was speaking Navajo.”

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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 2:42:47pm
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Belafon  May 16, 2018 • 2:43:02pm

re: #192 whitebeach

One of my favorite anecdotes on this subject (I have no idea whether it’s true or not) appeared here on LGF a while back. Some ranting white guy like the one in the vid berates a young woman in Arizona for speaking Spanish on her phone. “This is America, not Mexico, learn to speak English, not Spanish!” The woman interrupts her conversation long enough to tell him, “I was speaking Navajo.”

That was real.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 16, 2018 • 2:45:26pm

re: #192 whitebeach

One of my favorite anecdotes on this subject (I have no idea whether it’s true or not) appeared here on LGF a while back. Some ranting white guy like the one in the vid berates a young woman in Arizona for speaking Spanish on her phone. “This is America, not Mexico, learn to speak English, not Spanish!” The woman interrupts her conversation long enough to tell him, “I was speaking Navajo.”

JFC, how boneheadedly ignorant do you have to be to mistake Navajo for Spanish? All the glottal stops and tone changes didn’t give him a clue? That’d be like mistaking Chinese for Japanese..oh, wait—I suppose he’d do that, too.

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2018 • 2:45:49pm

re: #188 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’ve spoken Spanish since I was a child. It was pretty common in rural California and semi-urban Texas where I lived. Nobody thought anything of it until about the last 10 years or so. It was a great help in my working life. It has taken on a distinctly political cast now, with non-speakers thinking I am some kind of cuck or sell out for doing so.

10 years…Tea Party time.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 16, 2018 • 2:46:58pm

re: #190 HappyWarrior

Yeah because those things never happened before.

Those good old time values. I was rejected and reviled by my mother’s family because I was conceived out of wedlock. My asshole fundy brother, now deceased, actually cited this as an excuse for running off with my first wife.
Later, I lost one of the great loves of my life, a beautiful and brilliant young teacher, because her Baptist idiot parents objected to our marriage on the grounds that I was divorced. They never doubted that I was in the right in the divorce, but scripture was infallible and I just had to accept that.

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2018 • 2:48:26pm

re: #193 JordanRules

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Awww…that top image is so good. I miss Obama images with kids. They loved him and he them.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 16, 2018 • 2:50:04pm

Oh man I’m late to the thread / party again. Work has been holding my full attention these days. Re: The cover picture for the thread.
When I first saw the gun and the mic from the podium I thought they made a gun with the perfect accessory for a Donald Trump buy in and endorsement-A microphone attached to the scope. That and a cell phone clamp so he can tweet too.

Not the first time but certainly the worst time I have been so ashamed to have been associated with the NRA years ago. I quit, let my credentials as a trainer fall away long ago. Remember life member HW Bush quite? But it just got worse from there under Wayne LaPierre. Now with Ollie North President and Ted Nugent on the b.o.d., now Russian money to influence our election. 50% satire 50% irony-I think I need the 2nd A to protect myself from the tyrants the NRA helped put in power. “What tyrants?” some might ask. ICE, Border Patrol, and the end results of climate denial. Or some Trump humper looking to hurt me for my resistance, or hurt a Hispanic or Muslim friend.

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steve_davis  May 16, 2018 • 2:50:16pm

re: #38 The Vicious Babushka

yeah, i definitely hear yanny. if i concentrate, I can tell that laurel is being said “underneath” the yanny.

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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2018 • 2:53:35pm
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MsJ  May 16, 2018 • 2:53:45pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 16, 2018 • 2:53:56pm

re: #38 The Vicious Babushka

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That’s odd. The ability to hear high frequencies is said to fade with age. I am old and fairly hard of hearing, but I hear “yanny” distinctly.

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Scout  May 16, 2018 • 2:54:05pm

re: #201 steve_davis

yeah, i definitely hear yanny. if i concentrate, I can tell that laurel is being said “underneath” the yanny.

I hear yaMMy. A definite M sound, rather than yaNNy.

This is likely connected to the fact that I’m absolutely horrible at discerning song lyrics.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 2:55:22pm

re: #203 MsJ

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This is according to Rudy?

OK.

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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2018 • 2:55:56pm
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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2018 • 3:03:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 3:04:59pm
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jeffreyw  May 16, 2018 • 3:06:42pm

re: #186 JordanRules

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I’m scouring for funny content cause today was another rough day.
*deep sigh*

About that last name on the list…

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2018 • 3:07:07pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ✔
@Green_Footballs
Ho hum. Just another day in the New Normal, as the President of the United States says about an entire group of human beings: “These aren’t people. These are animals.”

This isn’t creeping fascism. It’s runaway train fascism.

6:02 PM - May 16, 2018

I note you used train in your comment. Intentional?

It sure carries some connotations within the subject matter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 3:08:02pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 16, 2018 • 3:11:43pm

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I think FAUX just tweeted this out there to force Mueller to specifically issue a statement saying they can indict tRump, to get their viewers into a proper froth.

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EPR-radar  May 16, 2018 • 3:14:34pm

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

If true, this business of not being able to indict a sitting president needs a serious reexamination.

If Trump were to go to the border and engage in a shooting spree vs. anyone that moved, Congressional Republicans wouldn’t do a damn thing about it, unless Trump shot a white guy by mistake.

If Trump is up to his eyeballs in money laundering etc., he should be dragged out of the white house to face those charges like any other crook.

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dangerman  May 16, 2018 • 3:16:05pm

Mrs dm is doing great

Mostly off the drugs that make you dopey..while it was fun..this is better
She says the pain is down to a level one
Still very tired
Back on solid food

Wants her phone
And wants to get out of bed and try to walk

Her sister /my sil flew out for moral support

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wrenchwench  May 16, 2018 • 3:16:57pm

re: #215 dangerman

Good to hear read!

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Ace Rothstein  May 16, 2018 • 3:18:08pm

re: #203 MsJ

Translation: He can be indicted.

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2018 • 3:18:14pm

re: #213 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I think FAUX just tweeted this out there to force Mueller to specifically issue a statement saying the can indict tRump, to get their viewers into a proper froth.

MSNBC folks have been discussing it and more or less came to the conclusion it is Rudy speaking to Trump through his favorite medium and calming him down.

And speaking of MSNBC folks…Katy Tur is starting to bother me. It’s one thing for her to be a reporter, but when she starts giving her opinion I really start doubting her. She needs to get out into America and talk to, yes, Clinton voters and even people that may have voted for Trump that have come to the conclusion they screwed up big time.

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Ace Rothstein  May 16, 2018 • 3:22:49pm

Rudy G is going on Ingraham Anal tonight. Maybe this indictment crap is setting it up for his appearance this evening.

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ckkatz  May 16, 2018 • 3:23:32pm

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Jim is correct, the first step on the road to atrocities is dehumanizing a group of people.

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MsJ  May 16, 2018 • 3:24:32pm

Good.

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makeitstop  May 16, 2018 • 3:24:55pm

re: #219 Ace Rothstein

Rudy G is going on Ingraham Anal tonight. Maybe this indictment crap is setting it up for his appearance this evening.

Yeah, nice big hook for the rubes to swallow. They’ll prolly walk it back right after the show, if not during the show itself.

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Barefoot Grin  May 16, 2018 • 3:27:34pm

It may be that a sitting President can’t be indicted, but that doesn’t extend to his son or son-in-law, right?

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petesh  May 16, 2018 • 3:29:40pm

re: #223 Barefoot Grin

It may be that a sitting President can’t be indicted, but that doesn’t extend to his son or son-in-law, right?

Right. The term “unindicted co-conspirator” is Presidentially relevant, too.

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ckkatz  May 16, 2018 • 3:30:09pm

Since Mueller is doing the investigation by the book; Does anyone know when he will need to go dark for the mid-terms? And what that means?

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whitebeach  May 16, 2018 • 3:31:24pm

Sign of the Apocalypse?

One of the three Repub senators to vote for the Net neutrality legislation was John N. Kennedy, right here from the Grett Stett of Louisiana. I guess there’s always the possibility he just got confused, since competence and thought have never been his strong points, but could it actually be that he’s seen a glimmer of the light? I mean we’re talking a typical white Louisiana pol, who can usually hold their own with RWNJs anywhere for crazy, and usually beat them for crooked.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2018 • 3:34:02pm

re: #203 MsJ

NEW: Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team has informed President Donald Trump’s attorneys that they have concluded that they cannot indict a sitting president, according to the President’s lawyer. @DanaBashCNN scoops cnn.com
4:30 PM - May 16, 2018

Giuliani: Mueller’s team told Trump’s lawyers they can’t indict a president
Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team has informed President Donald Trump’s attorneys that they have concluded that they cannot indict a sitting president, according to the President’s lawyer.
cnn.com
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It’s all part of their Big Lie campaign. You get the lie out into the public and repeat it as often as possible. That way, when the truth comes out, the truth tellers are at a disadvantage because the public only knows the lie and may not accept the converse. Instead the right will accuse the prosecution of violating the laws. These statements may also contaminate the jury pool and the hack federalist judges that are poisoning our court system.

Of course, if we are really fortunate, Rudy will be ensnared by Mueller’s probe.

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MsJ  May 16, 2018 • 3:34:08pm

re: #226 whitebeach

Sign of the Apocalypse?

One of the three Repub senators to vote for the Net neutrality legislation was John N. Kennedy, right here from the Grett Stett of Louisiana. I guess there’s always the possibility he just got confused, since competence and thought have never been his strong points, but could it actually be that he’s seen a glimmer of the light? I mean we’re talking a typical white Louisiana pol, who can usually hold their own with RWNJs anywhere for crazy, and usually beat them for crooked.

That’s more than likely there care, isn’t it?

And I hadn’t thought of it.

Boo on me. Yay for you!

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ckkatz  May 16, 2018 • 3:34:49pm

re: #226 whitebeach

Sign of the Apocalypse?

One of the three Repub senators to vote for the Net neutrality legislation was John N. Kennedy, right here from the Grett Stett of Louisiana. I guess there’s always the possibility he just got confused, since competence and thought have never been his strong points, but could it actually be that he’s seen a glimmer of the light? I mean we’re talking a typical white Louisiana pol, who can usually hold their own with RWNJs anywhere for crazy, and usually beat them for crooked.

I’m wondering if Kennedy voted for Net Neutrality because he knew his vote would be meaningless and wanted the ‘Brownie’ points. Presumably because it would never come up for a vote in the House.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 16, 2018 • 3:38:32pm

re: #225 ckkatz

Since Mueller is doing the investigation by the book; Does anyone know when he will need to go dark for the mid-terms? And what that means?

When has he not been dark?

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2018 • 3:39:14pm

re: #226 whitebeach

Sign of the Apocalypse?

One of the three Repub senators to vote for the Net neutrality legislation was John N. Kennedy, right here from the Grett Stett of Louisiana. I guess there’s always the possibility he just got confused, since competence and thought have never been his strong points, but could it actually be that he’s seen a glimmer of the light? I mean we’re talking a typical white Louisiana pol, who can usually hold their own with RWNJs anywhere for crazy, and usually beat them for crooked.

But some of those crooked pols actually cared about the citizens of your Grett Stett. So maybe he does too. According to Wiki, John Kennedy introduced a bill on March 7, 2018, that would “prohibit companies like Comcast and Verizon from blocking or throttling web content.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 3:40:04pm
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ckkatz  May 16, 2018 • 3:41:18pm

re: #230 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

When has he not been dark?

Good point! I was also wondering about in terms of questioning witnesses, subpoenas, charges, trials, etc.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 3:47:31pm
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Unshaken Defiance  May 16, 2018 • 3:47:45pm

re: #224 petesh

Right. The term “unindicted co-conspirator” is Presidentially relevant, too.

Yes it is. but then if you ask me there are 62,979,636 unindicted co conspirators less the handful of Trump guys that have been indicted.

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MsJ  May 16, 2018 • 3:49:09pm

This is some article.

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2018 • 3:52:07pm

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Damn…this is a political crime novel that never could have been written.

It had to actually happen to be even close to believable. So many little details, numbers, accounts, twists and turns.

Though, with Mueller doing the summation, I think he is getting a pretty good detailed picture of how it all worked.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 3:58:01pm

moron

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ckkatz  May 16, 2018 • 3:59:05pm

re: #236 MsJ

This is some article.

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Wow! Fascinating article. Thanks for finding and posting it!

Two quotes stand out for me:

“We’ve accepted this as normal, and this is not normal,” the official said. “Things that stand out as abnormal, like documents being removed from a system, are of grave concern to me.”

And

[…] referring to the released report, as well as the potential contents of the missing reports, the official also added, “This is a terrifying time to be an American, to be in this situation, and to watch all of this unfold.”

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2018 • 3:59:07pm

A good take from the Jesuits

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makeitstop  May 16, 2018 • 4:00:00pm

re: #223 Barefoot Grin

It may be that a sitting President can’t be indicted, but that doesn’t extend to his son or son-in-law, right?

That’s what I figure. They’ll wait him out and indict everybody else in the mean time.

Then when he leaves office in January 2021, boom. The whip comes down.

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dangerman  May 16, 2018 • 4:00:03pm

re: #214 EPR-radar

If true, this business of not being able to indict a sitting president needs a serious reexamination.

If Trump were to go to the border and engage in a shooting spree vs. anyone that moved, Congressional Republicans wouldn’t do a damn thing about it, unless Trump shot a white guy by mistake.

If Trump is up to his eyeballs in money laundering etc., he should be dragged out of the white house to face those charges like any other crook.

It can’t possibly be possible to break the law to win/steal the presidency then use the office to shield yourself from prosecution or pardon yourself for the crime that got you the power

You can’t possibly be allowed to wreak all 4 years of havoc just because you “won” if the very crimes got you the win

Gah

I’m going g back to tending the wife…..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 4:01:03pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2018 • 4:08:28pm

re: #231 Hecuba’s daughter

Of course, the “Hastert” rule will prevent net neutrality from getting to the floor in the House. A rule created by a pedophile and passed down through the criminal GOP House class.

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Jay C  May 16, 2018 • 4:11:04pm

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good for Melania. As long as she declares and pays taxes on her earnings, she deserves to keep as much as she can.
After all, post-election earnings probably aren’t covered by the pre-nup/NDA…..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 4:11:30pm
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Barefoot Grin  May 16, 2018 • 4:19:09pm

re: #236 MsJ

This is some article.

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Suspicious-activity reports are kept strictly confidential, as a matter of law. “sars are secret, to protect the government and to protect financial institutions,” the former prosecutor told me. “I don’t think there’s a safe harbor for somebody who discloses it.” According to fincen, disclosing a sar is a federal offense, carrying penalties including fines of up to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and imprisonment for up to five years. The official who released the suspicious-activity reports was aware of the risks, but said fears that the missing reports might be suppressed compelled the disclosure. “We’ve accepted this as normal, and this is not normal,” the official said. “Things that stand out as abnormal, like documents being removed from a system, are of grave concern to me.” Of the potential for legal consequences, the official said, “To say that I am terrified right now would be an understatement.” But, referring to the released report, as well as the potential contents of the missing reports, the official also added, “This is a terrifying time to be an American, to be in this situation, and to watch all of this unfold.”

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wrenchwench  May 16, 2018 • 4:20:06pm
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whitebeach  May 16, 2018 • 4:21:16pm

Back during Watergate, the Chicago Tribune, conservative but a great paper, stood by Nixon until the tapes came out, then with some expressed regret turned on him. A Trib editorial lamented thus: “He is humorless to the point of being inhumane. He is devious. He is vacillating. He is profane. He is willing to be led. He displays dismaying gaps in knowledge. He is suspicious of his staff. His loyalty is minimal.”

The point of quoting this is to ask exactly which conservative media outlet, or even which conservative voter, would abandon Trump because of these flaws? They are exactly what he has displayed his entire adult life, and most flagrantly in his campaign and presidency. They’re what his base admires and desires.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 16, 2018 • 4:24:10pm

Evening Lizardim.

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goddamnedfrank  May 16, 2018 • 4:24:55pm

re: #251 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Evening Lizardim.

Nope it’s tomorrow already because today is over.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 16, 2018 • 4:25:17pm

re: #252 goddamnedfrank

Nope it’s tomorrow already because today is over.

Oh. Okay then.

[Rolls over and goes back to sleep.]

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goddamnedfrank  May 16, 2018 • 4:25:44pm

re: #252 goddamnedfrank

Nope it’s tomorrow already because today is over.

It’s just very, very, very early in the morning.

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Charmingly Persistent  May 16, 2018 • 4:26:21pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 16, 2018 • 4:28:39pm

re: #250 whitebeach

Back during Watergate, the Chicago Tribune, conservative but a great paper, stood by Nixon until the tapes came out, then with some expressed regret turned on him. A Trib editorial lamented thus: “He is humorless to the point of being inhumane. He is devious. He is vacillating. He is profane. He is willing to be led. He displays dismaying gaps in knowledge. He is suspicious of his staff. His loyalty is minimal.”

The point of quoting this is to ask exactly which conservative media outlet, or even which conservative voter, would abandon Trump because of these flaws? They are exactly what he has displayed his entire adult life, and most flagrantly in his campaign and presidency. They’re what his base admires and desires.

They will have to be beaten down and utterly humiliated, then rebuilt and re-educated along rational and humane lines. The precedent is not some past election cycle or even Reconstruction, it is post-war Germany.

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prairiefire  May 16, 2018 • 4:31:12pm

re: #2 JordanRules

I can not express how much this has made my day. I knew that psycho had been wearing a mask.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 4:33:43pm
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Stanley Sea  May 16, 2018 • 4:34:39pm

re: #255 Charmingly Persistent

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A twitter moment - go look to see the whole thing.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 16, 2018 • 4:35:02pm

Brownfield Texas (population 9717) is yet another formerly blood-red Texas town that has recently elected a Democratic mayor.
Brownfield just elected an outspoken Democrat for mayor

In a sea of red, Brownfield just became an anomaly.

The Terry County seat of about 9,500 people southwest of Lubbock just elected a Democrat for mayor. City elections are nonpartisan, so Geronimo Gonzales didn’t have a ‘D’ next to his name on the ballot. But during his campaign, Gonzales didn’t shield the fact that he’s the chairman of the Terry County Democrats.

The cover of his Facebook page is a photo of himself standing with Texas’ Democratic Senate nominee, U.S. Beto O’Rourke of El Paso.

“I couldn’t hide it, people know who I am,” Gonzales said over the phone Tuesday. “In a race this small, or this local, more than a newspaper ad or a Facebook page, people want you to knock on their door. People expect you to knock on their door… and I introduced myself.”

Brownfield is just 30 miles from Lubbock and went even more heavily for Trump than Lubbock did.
The wheel is turning, and it is going to run over the arrogant Republican grifters and smash them flat.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 16, 2018 • 4:36:14pm
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goddamnedfrank  May 16, 2018 • 4:40:06pm

I have no idea what these assholes are thinking. Supporting Haspel’s nomination has zero upside for Democrats.

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Stanley Sea  May 16, 2018 • 4:41:01pm

More

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 4:41:36pm
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prairiefire  May 16, 2018 • 4:44:17pm

re: #263 Stanley Sea

Tell the tale!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 4:44:41pm
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Patricia Kayden  May 16, 2018 • 4:47:07pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 4:47:12pm

dayum.
After last week’s episode ended in apparent MAD, I was kinda wondering if anyone was left alive for this week.

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Jenner7  May 16, 2018 • 4:48:07pm

::shivers::

Ugh, that spider video….

::shivers::

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Interesting Times  May 16, 2018 • 4:48:21pm

re: #262 goddamnedfrank

I have no idea what these assholes are thinking. Supporting Haspel’s nomination has zero upside for Democrats.

The only “devil’s advocate” argument one could make for confirming Haspel is abject terror that whoever replaces her is bound to be even worse o_O

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EPR-radar  May 16, 2018 • 4:49:46pm

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Overfed beshitted swine” may displace “witless fucking cocksplat” as my favorite insult for Trump. This demands serious thought.

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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2018 • 4:50:00pm

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“At long last, have you no sense of decency?”

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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2018 • 4:51:12pm

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Started to think I was getting immune to outrage, but this outrages me. It’s sick and disgusting and absolutely unChristian.

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EPR-radar  May 16, 2018 • 4:52:04pm

re: #272 Sir John Barron

“At long last, have you no sense of decency?”

The lesson the GOP took from that episode is to thoroughly erase all traces of decency from their voters and officials. No more of this pansy liberal business of a proper witch hunt getting thus interrupted by an appeal to decency.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2018 • 4:52:52pm
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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2018 • 4:52:59pm

re: #261 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Walsh wants to go back to….what exactly? Less individual freedom?

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fern01  May 16, 2018 • 4:53:10pm

re: #117 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If she comes out in favor of another referendum, that might help tip the scales in favor of reconsidering the outcome, which, like a presidential election in the US would probably look different if we ran it again

I cannot remember the last time (if ever) QEII spoke on a political matter. Her husband is known for opening his mouth & inserting foot - but not the lady.

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Jenner7  May 16, 2018 • 4:53:16pm
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Patricia Kayden  May 16, 2018 • 4:56:09pm

re: #207 Charles Johnson

What? What the ever living hell is happening? Migrants, whether here legally or illegally, are human beings and better human beings than Trump has ever been. I really look forward to the day when he leaves office in shame and humiliated.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 16, 2018 • 5:01:22pm

Yet another Cheetolini appointment that can’t possibly be real but is.

Trump’s New CDC Director: AIDS Is ‘God’s Judgment’ Against Gays

Trump’s new CDC director, Dr. Robert Redfield, is a dangerous Christian extremist with a history of demonizing gays and single parents.

Dr. Robert Redfield, the new Director of Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), has long standing ties with conservative Christian groups that are hostile to gays, single parents, and anyone else that offends their “family values.”

In the past, the new CDC director has worked closely with the Christian organization Americans for a Sound AIDS/HIV Policy. The group claims that AIDS was “God’s judgment” against gays, and was punishment from God for an America weakened by single-parent households and a loss of “family values.”

CNN reports on Redfield’s deplorable record:

As an Army major at Walter Reed Medical Institute, he designed policies for controlling the disease within the US military that involved placing infected personnel in quarantine and investigating their pasts to identify and track possible sexual partners. Soldiers were routinely discharged and left to die of AIDS, humiliated and jobless, often abandoned by their families.

In other words, Redfield used his prominent position in the U.S. military to design a policy that would ultimately humiliate and punish gay soldiers suffering from the AIDS virus.

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EPR-radar  May 16, 2018 • 5:04:42pm

re: #280 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I really regret being an atheist at times like this — since only the thought of Trump spending eternity hip-deep in molten lead seems adequate to address his endless evil.

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Jay C  May 16, 2018 • 5:12:43pm

re: #281 EPR-radar

I really regret being an atheist at times like this — since only the thought of Trump spending eternity hiptoupee-deep in molten lead seems adequate to address his endless evil.

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freetoken  May 16, 2018 • 5:13:17pm

re: #280 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Unfortunately the CNN story sounds more like a brouhaha over salaries, and they then interweave the anti-gay bigotry. Both should be split out and looked at in depth.

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Sir John Barron  May 16, 2018 • 5:15:03pm

re: #279 Patricia Kayden

What? What the ever living hell is happening? Migrants, whether here legally or illegally, are human beings and better human beings than Trump has ever been. I really look forward to the day when he leaves office in shame and humiliated.

Can’t wait until he starts calling Democrats ‘animals’.

/

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fern01  May 16, 2018 • 5:15:30pm

re: #203 MsJ

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team has informed President Donald Trump’s attorneys that they have concluded that they cannot indict a sitting president, according to the President’s lawyer

And I would believe the President’s lawyer as much as I would believe the president*

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Jenner7  May 16, 2018 • 5:16:24pm

Today was newsy. All of this shit coming out is mentally exhausting.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2018 • 5:21:21pm

You know what?

I’ve decided I hate Trumps GOP enablers even more than I hate the man himself.

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fern01  May 16, 2018 • 5:22:54pm

re: #246 Jay C

Good for Melania. As long as she declares and pays taxes on her earnings, she deserves to keep as much as she can.
After all, post-election earnings probably aren’t covered by the pre-nup/NDA…..

And if Michelle Obama had done this - the outcry - the horror - making money out of her position.

Every last person that has anything to do with trump is a grifter - all of ‘em and any of ‘em
They do more harm to the US than anyone can imagine.

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Dave In Austin  May 16, 2018 • 5:23:58pm

re: #284 Sir John Barron

Can’t wait until he starts calling Democrats ‘animals’.

/

Shit…. That’s old stuff that I’ve heard for years. Then again, Texas and AZ before that.

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goddamnedfrank  May 16, 2018 • 5:27:25pm

Katy Tur really exemplifies the savvy reporter with a corner office view from nowhere. I’d like to say I’m disappointed but literally her only qualifications for the job she has are the luck of being assigned to cover Trump campaign, letting Trump put her in a pen like some circus attraction to be jeered at, and having parents who filmed a thing once that everyone saw.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 16, 2018 • 5:33:53pm

re: #290 goddamnedfrank

That’s not even a coherent statement.

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Ace Rothstein  May 16, 2018 • 5:34:51pm

re: #285 fern01

And I would believe the President’s lawyer as much as I would believe the president*

Anything Rudy says is bullshit until proven otherwise.

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Kragar  May 16, 2018 • 5:35:57pm
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fern01  May 16, 2018 • 5:36:01pm

re: #292 Ace Rothstein

Anything Rudy says is bullshit until proven otherwise.

Minor fix needed

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2018 • 5:38:10pm
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BlueSpotinAL  May 16, 2018 • 5:39:42pm

re: #276 Sir John Barron

Walsh wants to go back to….what exactly? Less individual freedom?

For women, yes.

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MsJ  May 16, 2018 • 5:40:22pm

re: #286 Jenner7

Today was newsy. All of this shit coming out is mentally exhausting.

Read this thread. Start at the top. It’s almost 200 tweets now. I don’t really like this guy but this is a helluva thread.

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Patricia Kayden  May 16, 2018 • 5:42:42pm

re: #111 Charles Johnson

Trump will never stop being a racist creep.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 16, 2018 • 5:44:42pm

re: #293 Kragar

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I think who he was referring to as “slaves of the government” were people paying taxes to be used to help the disabled.

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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 5:54:10pm

re: #297 MsJ

Read this thread. Start at the top. It’s almost 200 tweets now. I don’t really like this guy but this is a helluva thread.

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I think that might exhaust Jenner7 more though LOL
A puppy thread might be in order.

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Amory Blaine  May 16, 2018 • 6:00:01pm

I got nothin’. My dog what can i say about this crap. At least ringside seats for the collapse.

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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2018 • 6:00:03pm
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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 6:03:00pm

Rudy has exonerated me from any and all future legal matters. Thanks Rudy!

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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 6:04:14pm
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Scottish Dragon  May 16, 2018 • 6:04:41pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

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To be fair, that spider was probably scared to damned death….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 6:04:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 6:05:44pm
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Scottish Dragon  May 16, 2018 • 6:06:18pm

re: #302 Charles Johnson

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You mean like his near verbatim quote today from the Nazi propaganda flick The Eternal Jew where he refers to foreign immigrants as animals?

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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 6:07:32pm

re: #288 fern01

And if Michelle Obama had done this - the outcry - the horror - making money out of her position.

Every last person that has anything to do with trump is a grifter - all of ‘em and any of ‘em
They do more harm to the US than anyone can imagine.

And Melon’s “friend” made 26 milli off the inauguration somehow. Something in the milk ain’t clean.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 16, 2018 • 6:12:20pm

re: #186 JordanRules

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I’m scouring for funny content cause today was another rough day.
*deep sigh*

Owl Jolson if you’re a fan of old cartoons.

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2018 • 6:14:36pm

re: #290 goddamnedfrank

Katy Tur really exemplifies the savvy reporter with a corner office view from nowhere. I’d like to say I’m disappointed but literally her only qualifications for the job she has are the luck of being assigned to cover Trump campaign, letting Trump put her in a pen like some circus attraction to be jeered at, and having parents who filmed a thing once that everyone saw.

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I’m with you ‘damnedfrank. I made a similar comment in #218. Today isn’t the first time she has frustrated me.

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William Lewis  May 16, 2018 • 6:16:10pm

re: #295 gocart mozart

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Heh. Actually I have a bit of interest in the Royal Wedding. See, the Royal couple dropped a bit of a bomb, religiously speaking, by inviting the Very Pro LGBT & first African American Presiding Bishop of the United States Episcopal Church, Michael Curry, to give the sermon at the wedding mass. Though he won’t say anything out of place while there his simple invitation implies that the Royals support the US position in the battle between us and the homophobic African churches. More than a few heads went boom from that announcement :D

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Kragar  May 16, 2018 • 6:18:23pm
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ObserverArt  May 16, 2018 • 6:25:17pm

Watching Rachel and after the current break she is having Ronan Farrow on to discuss his big story about Cohen and the missing files that started the leaks of the Cohen financial records.

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teleskiguy  May 16, 2018 • 6:25:37pm

re: #188 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’ve spoken Spanish since I was a child. It was pretty common in rural California and semi-urban Texas where I lived. Nobody thought anything of it until about the last 10 years or so. It was a great help in my working life. It has taken on a distinctly political cast now, with non-speakers thinking I am some kind of cuck or sell out for doing so.

One of my big regrets in life is not learning to speak Spanish. I can still do it, but it has to be full immersion, I have to live in a Spanish-speaking country for a couple of years. I’ve seen people do it.

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Patricia Kayden  May 16, 2018 • 6:25:56pm

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why anyone with a brain cell would believe anything Giuliani says is beyond me.

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petesh  May 16, 2018 • 6:26:05pm

re: #288 fern01

And if Michelle Obama had done this - the outcry - the horror - making money out of her position.

Every last person that has anything to do with trump is a grifter - all of ‘em and any of ‘em
They do more harm to the US than anyone can imagine.

Didnt Michelle give royalties to charity?

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MsJ  May 16, 2018 • 6:26:47pm
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EPR-radar  May 16, 2018 • 6:27:42pm

re: #287 Eclectic Cyborg

You know what?

I’ve decided I hate Trumps GOP enablers even more than I hate the man himself.

My deepest scorn is reserved for the fuckwits in the mainstream media that continue to enable both Trump and the GOP with their incessant both-siderism. E.g., the fools that closed ranks around Fox fucking News when the Obama administration tried to paint Fox News as a propaganda shop.

These are people who are supposed to know better and don’t act that way.

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teleskiguy  May 16, 2018 • 6:28:16pm

re: #197 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

That’s heavy, dude. Damn.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 6:29:37pm

re: #313 Kragar

Everyone around him are just not telling him any of the boring important stuff.
Only things that pump up his ego.

Hell of a way to run/ruin a country.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 16, 2018 • 6:30:13pm

re: #319 EPR-radar

My deepest scorn is reserved for the fuckwits in the mainstream media that continue to enable both Trump and the GOP with their incessant both-siderism. E.g., the fools that closed ranks around Fox fucking News when the Obama administration tried to paint Fox News as a propaganda shop.

These are people who are supposed to know better and don’t act that way.

One thing I have noticed is that groups are very hesitant to police their own. Afraid that improved standards would be applied to themselves and/or result in undesirable work and penalties. In turn, they do not seem to understand that refusing to do this work drags all of the group down as they become tainted by association.

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teleskiguy  May 16, 2018 • 6:30:42pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

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EPR-radar  May 16, 2018 • 6:32:15pm

re: #322 Feline Fearless Leader

One thing I have noticed is that groups are very hesitant to police their own. Afraid that improved standards would be applied to themselves and/or result in undesirable work and penalties. In turn, they do not seem to understand that refusing to do this work drags all of the group down as they become tainted by association.

The rest of the press should absolutely stop covering for Fox News. Yes, Fox News does run some legit reporting, from what I’ve heard. But even that is only in service to its larger mission of GOP propaganda, to provide a fig leaf of credibility.

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Kragar  May 16, 2018 • 6:32:47pm

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

Everyone around him are just not telling him any of the boring important stuff.
Only things that pump up his ego.

Hell of a way to run/ruin a country.

“Remember thou art mortal. Remember thou art mortal.”
“Somebody get this loser out of here!”

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wheat-dogg  May 16, 2018 • 6:34:12pm

re: #325 Kragar

“Remember thou art mortal. Remember thou art mortal.”
“Somebody get this loser out of here!”

“Beware the Ides of March!”
“Arrest that soothsayer! Fake news!!”

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2018 • 6:40:57pm

Breakdown of Rachel Maddow and Ronan Farrow discussion.

The new twist and mystery…The Two Missing Cohen Banking SAR Reports.

Gone from the government database and not known where they could have gone. It is extremely rare to have such documents come up missing from a permanent database.

They could have been protected from Mueller.

They could have been protected for Mueller.

It takes a lot to make them go missing; steps never really used much.

What’s up with all of this?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 6:41:40pm
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ObserverArt  May 16, 2018 • 6:42:56pm

re: #328 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That was fast!

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2018 • 6:44:22pm

re: #323 teleskiguy

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Those dumb laws are why your family is here.

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teleskiguy  May 16, 2018 • 6:45:05pm
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Bubblehead II  May 16, 2018 • 6:47:57pm

re: #327 ObserverArt

Breakdown of Rachel Maddow and Ronan Farrow discussion.

The new twist and mystery…The Two Missing Cohen Banking SAR Reports.

Gone from the government database and not known where they could have gone. It is extremely rare to have such documents come up missing from a permanent database.

They could have been protected from Mueller.

They could have been protected for Mueller.

It takes a lot to make them go missing; steps never really used much.

What’s up with all of this?

Three words.

Steven Terner Mnuchin.

Yes I honestly believe this (mis)administration would be stupid enough to try and pull a stunt like this.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 16, 2018 • 6:50:18pm

re: #324 EPR-radar

The rest of the press should absolutely stop covering for Fox News. Yes, Fox News does run some legit reporting, from what I’ve heard. But even that is only in service to its larger mission of GOP propaganda, to provide a fig leaf of credibility.

I also wish the press/media would grow a spine regarding the basic reporting of facts. And possibly to the point that they’d all agree to stop covering the White House and simply report - “All we have received from them are lies, therefore we will not waste your time with them.”

There is an anecdote that during the US Civil War there was a dispute and a Union general (Meade possibly) threw some reporters out of the Army of the Potomac’s camp. In response the reporters collectively agreed to not mention Meade again in their dispatches and articles. They would report on the events and campaign, but not mention Meade by name at all.

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2018 • 6:50:54pm

re: #332 Bubblehead II

Three words.

Steven Terner Mnuchin.

Yes I honestly believe this (mis)administration would be stupid enough to try and pull a stunt like this.

I would hope said database keeps a record of who accessed the reports and who could have the authority to make them go into a state they are no longer accessible by FBI agents.

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fern01  May 16, 2018 • 6:51:06pm

re: #317 petesh

Didnt Michelle give royalties to charity?

I really don’t know - I assume she would else the media would be afire - President Obama gave his Peace prize $1m to charity.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 16, 2018 • 6:52:42pm

re: #334 ObserverArt

I would hope said database keeps a record of who accessed the reports and who could have the authority to make them go into a state they are no longer accessible by FBI agents.

Hopefully there is a full audit trail. But this is a government where the systems are farmed out to the lowest bidder. And the question would be whether they were made inaccessible, or if someone actually deleted the data and tried to hide or prevent any way of recovering the information.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 6:53:15pm
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fern01  May 16, 2018 • 6:53:15pm

So Trump now admits to paying an amount (between $100K and $250K) to Cohen. Any other candidate - let alone a president would be forced to resign on this admission.

Why is the US political media continuing to support this moron. He brings more disrepute to the US with every passing day.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 6:54:30pm

re: #336 Feline Fearless Leader

But this is a government where the systems are farmed out to the lowest bidder somebody’s totally unqualified relative.

FTFY

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2018 • 6:55:47pm
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ObserverArt  May 16, 2018 • 6:56:06pm

re: #336 Feline Fearless Leader

Hopefully there is a full audit trail. But this is a government where the systems are farmed out to the lowest bidder. And the question would be whether they were made inaccessible, or if someone actually deleted the data and tried to hide or prevent any way of recovering the information.

I am under the impression the docs cannot be deleted just hidden due to cause.

I am not a database specialist to know if in fact a document can be made permanent to the point it can not go away.

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Amory Blaine  May 16, 2018 • 7:00:12pm

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KGxvi  May 16, 2018 • 7:01:04pm

re: #214 EPR-radar

If true, this business of not being able to indict a sitting president needs a serious reexamination.

If Trump were to go to the border and engage in a shooting spree vs. anyone that moved, Congressional Republicans wouldn’t do a damn thing about it, unless Trump shot a white guy by mistake.

If Trump is up to his eyeballs in money laundering etc., he should be dragged out of the white house to face those charges like any other crook.

Nixon, I believe, was named as an unindicted coconspirator after Watergate. But the problem with the president being indicted is that he is technically the chief law enforcement officer under the constitution - the Department of Justice ultimately answers to the president, despite our institutional norms and traditions.

There is also the 25th Amendment provisions that could come into play if the president were to be indicted. But that will also ultimately lead to the need for Congressional action. And therein lies the real problem, the Framers never expected the Congress to kowtow to the President the way the current GOP has.

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jaunte  May 16, 2018 • 7:01:07pm

re: #334 ObserverArt

Wouldn’t the reporting bank still have a copy in their own system?

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 16, 2018 • 7:01:14pm

re: #340 gocart mozart

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Of course those super patriots are hanging the flag wrong too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 7:02:09pm
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Feline Fearless Leader  May 16, 2018 • 7:02:13pm

re: #341 ObserverArt

I am under the impression the docs cannot be deleted just hidden due to cause.

I am not a database specialist to know if in fact a document can be made permanent to the point it can not go away.

You can only make it very difficult to get rid of. Backups, archive copies, etc. And also track who accesses and/or tries to modify the data. Plus for deleting something you generally want something done to overwrite the memory space as soon and thoroughly as possible since in most systems “deleting” a file is simply setting a tag indicating that the space is now available to be used for other things and not a actual erasing of the data stored there. (Speaking as a quasi-retired IT geek who did do some database management work in the past.)

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2018 • 7:03:13pm

re: #344 jaunte

Wouldn’t the reporting bank still have a copy in their own system?

I was thinking that would be the case too.

And I would also think the government had backups of a database and could compare to see what is missing.

And Rachel in discussing the story with Lawrence O’Donnell now, just said there is a tracking of who accesses the data.

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scottslemmons  May 16, 2018 • 7:03:32pm

re: #332 Bubblehead II

Three words.

Steven Terner Mnuchin.

Yes I honestly believe this (mis)administration would be stupid enough to try and pull a stunt like this.

I’m really looking forward to Mnuchin’s perp walk. He looks like a guy who’s gonna ugly-cry the whole way.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 7:03:40pm
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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2018 • 7:04:11pm

re: #346 Backwoods_Sleuth

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From the network that constantly finds random lefties to portray to their viewers as the average liberal to attack. Lumpy can go fuck himself.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2018 • 7:04:45pm

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They were people with dreams.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 16, 2018 • 7:04:46pm

re: #346 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Gotta credit Hannity with some gumption to keep thrashing at the subject when he has already been shown to be hip deep in it himself. Then again, it appears that the usual Fox viewer doesn’t care that Hannity has a lot of self-interest in trying to quash or otherwise harm the Mueller investigations attempts to find the truth.

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freetoken  May 16, 2018 • 7:05:17pm

re: #318 MsJ

I’ve lost the bubble, again.

Why is this important?

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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2018 • 7:05:38pm

IANAL but this seems like Defamation Per Se
I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last week!

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2018 • 7:07:11pm

re: #355 The Vicious Babushka

IANAL but this seems like Defamation Per Se
I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last week!

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The President you suck off literally fucks pornstars old enough to be his daughters but Stormy’s lawyer is the creepy one. You learned well from the USSR, Tucker.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 16, 2018 • 7:07:26pm

re: #348 ObserverArt

I was thinking that would be the case too.

And I would also think the government had backups of a database and could compare to see what is missing.

And Rachel in discussing the story with Lawrence O’Donnell now, just said there is a tracking of who accesses the data.

Hopefully an archive copy at a different site since for a lot of systems the usual “backup” does not hang around a long time due to the storage requirements. If you backup the database every week or two there are probably only 3-4 weeks backed up locally since you rotate the storage space and get rid of older backups at some point.

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freetoken  May 16, 2018 • 7:09:08pm

So many wheels are turning right now, it is hard to keep track of them all.

Which is probably Trump’s overarching strategy. Be so noisy, throw so much stuff at society, that the response will become fragmented into small groups, none of which will be able to concentrate long enough to do anything about him (Trump) before he dies.

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2018 • 7:10:38pm
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Bubblehead II  May 16, 2018 • 7:11:19pm

re: #334 ObserverArt

I would hope said database keeps a record of who accessed the reports and who could have the authority to make them go into a state they are no longer accessible by FBI agents.

Not to mention backup tapes as well If the files were ordered deleted.

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jaunte  May 16, 2018 • 7:12:12pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 16, 2018 • 7:12:51pm

re: #320 teleskiguy

That’s heavy, dude. Damn.

It’s been rough but I made it through pretty well. Among other things, my net worth is easily twice that of all 12 of my mother’s side cousins put together, even with my traitorous brother thrown in before he kicked the bucket. I normally don’t lord it over the peasants or boast about wealth but their case rates an exception, especially considering how greedy, materialistic, and snobbish they normally are. They are a prime example of pot/window syndrome, don’t have the former to piss in or the latter to throw it out of.

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Interesting Times  May 16, 2018 • 7:13:22pm

re: #359 gocart mozart

And the Internet for best response is awarded to…

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Bubblehead II  May 16, 2018 • 7:16:14pm

re: #349 scottslemmons

I’m really looking forward to Mnuchin’s perp walk. He looks like a guy who’s gonna ugly-cry the whole way.

Hell, I think all of us here a waiting for the entire (mis)administration to be perp walked out of D.C. The sooner the better.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 7:16:32pm

LOL

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2018 • 7:16:32pm

re: #355 The Vicious Babushka

IANAL but this seems like Defamation Per Se
I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last week!

It’s actually not defamation. Creepy is a subjective insult and he does represent a porn star. Those words aren’t defamatory as wouldn’t calling Tucker a “fucking asshole douchenozzle”

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 16, 2018 • 7:17:38pm

re: #363 Interesting Times

And the Internet for best response is awarded to…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 7:17:43pm
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TedStriker  May 16, 2018 • 7:19:11pm

re: #363 Interesting Times

And the Internet for best response is awarded to…

Well played, Marlee…

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jaunte  May 16, 2018 • 7:20:53pm
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jaunte  May 16, 2018 • 7:21:19pm

City tax crime or state tax crime?

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Jay C  May 16, 2018 • 7:23:06pm

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

In my case, it wasn’t even that far back: all four of my grandparents were immigrants: born in (what’s today) Poland and/or Belarus - and I’m sure they would have had a few choice phrases (in Yiddish) for the likes of The Donald. Which type I’m sure they had to deal with back in the 1910’s - one would have thought we would have improved a bit a hundred years on….

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jaunte  May 16, 2018 • 7:24:24pm
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MsJ  May 16, 2018 • 7:24:51pm

re: #354 freetoken

I’ve lost the bubble, again.

Why is this important?

Avannati is asking to represent Daniel’s in NY while he’s in the CA bar. Cohen’s against it. But for no good reason. And the judge asked Cohen’s lawyers to “show their work”.

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teleskiguy  May 16, 2018 • 7:25:01pm

re: #342 Amory Blaine

You just know some Trumpfucker will see that and post it to Facebook decrying that readers of LGF want Trump officials’ heads ripped off because we’re animals or some such shit.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2018 • 7:25:12pm

re: #372 Jay C

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In my case, it wasn’t even that far back: all four of my grandparents were immigrants: born in (what’s today) Poland and/or Belarus - and I’m sure they would have had a few choice phrases (in Yiddish) for the likes of The Donald. Which type I’m sure they had to deal with back in the 1910’s - one would have thought we would have improved a bit a hundred years on….

Same here. My latest ancestor arrived in 1921. She just missed being subject to the 1924 Quotas for Southern and Eastern Europe.

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2018 • 7:25:51pm
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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2018 • 7:27:33pm

re: #373 jaunte

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Trump’s neck skin is so saggy it looks like he has balls on his neck. Oh wait THOSE ARE HIS BALLS.

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Ace Rothstein  May 16, 2018 • 7:28:38pm

re: #378 The Vicious Babushka

Fucking gross.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 7:28:55pm

oh.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 16, 2018 • 7:29:46pm

This clod is a major antivaxx and anti-fluoride liar. He placed 5th out of 7 candidates despite a last minute campaign ad by none other than Alex Jones and endorsements from Rand Paul and Roger Stone.

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Belafon  May 16, 2018 • 7:29:48pm

re: #355 The Vicious Babushka

IANAL but this seems like Defamation Per Se
I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last week!

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One of the great side-effects of Trump destroying evangelicalism is his exposing porn stars as intelligent people just doing a job. I mean, how many of us are now following a prorn star?

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EPR-radar  May 16, 2018 • 7:30:10pm

re: #346 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hannity will be forever innocent of thought crime, because his tiny mind has never once been violated by thought.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2018 • 7:31:29pm

Rudy just can’t shut the fuck up.

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Jay C  May 16, 2018 • 7:32:35pm

re: #376 HappyWarrior

Same here. My latest ancestor arrived in 1921. She just missed being subject to the 1924 Quotas for Southern and Eastern Europe.

Typical. The 1924 Immigration Act was specifically crafted to make sure that the biggest of those (further-restricted) quotas were reserved for those countries that were sending the least number of immigrants by 1924 - to make sure that the fewest “undesirables” got in. (They used quotas based on the “national origins” numbers in the 1890 census)

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jaunte  May 16, 2018 • 7:32:43pm
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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2018 • 7:33:36pm

re: #384 The Vicious Babushka

Rudy just can’t shut the fuck up.

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Nah Dems weren’t worried about you since you were a shitty candidate.

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jaunte  May 16, 2018 • 7:34:14pm

Remember when Republicans supported the FBI, and law enforcement, and counter-espionage?

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Amory Blaine  May 16, 2018 • 7:34:57pm

I used to kid when I was younger “why are our balls in the same place as every other living creature, aren’t we supposed to be created in gods image? I said our balls could be inside our earlobes and our other bit right in the center of our foreheads, like unicorns. For the unexciting times we could hold it up with our prominent brow. Badda bing badda boom.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2018 • 7:34:58pm

re: #385 Jay C

Typical. The 1924 Immigration Act was specifically crafted to make sure that the biggest of those (further-restricted) quotas were reserved for those countries that were sending the least number of immigrants by 1924 - to make sure that the fewest “undesirables” got in. (They used quotas based on the “national origins” numbers in the 1890 census)

Yep. Crazy to think had Great Grandma been a few years younger, my story wouldn’t be what it is.

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Ace Rothstein  May 16, 2018 • 7:35:01pm

re: #388 jaunte

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Remember when Republicans supported the FBI, and law enforcement, and counter-espionage?

No.

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teleskiguy  May 16, 2018 • 7:35:10pm

re: #362 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2018 • 7:35:13pm
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whitebeach  May 16, 2018 • 7:35:20pm

I don’t think it says either Laurel or Yanny. I think it says “people,” but then if you cut off all the input except for something that sounds like it came over a string into a tin can, it says “animals.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 7:35:20pm
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jaunte  May 16, 2018 • 7:35:38pm

re: #391 Ace Rothstein

It has been a while.

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Jay C  May 16, 2018 • 7:35:59pm

re: #381 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This clod is a major antivaxx and anti-fluoride liar. He placed 5th out of 7 candidates despite a last minute campaign ad by none other than Alex Jones and endorsements from Rand Paul and Roger Stone.

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Geez, even in Idaho? Maybe there’s even hope for the Native American woman running for Governor as (D)?*

* doubtful, though nice to think about

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Ace Rothstein  May 16, 2018 • 7:36:33pm

re: #396 jaunte

Please refresh my memory when Republicans supported the FBI, and law enforcement, and counter-espionage.

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2018 • 7:37:20pm
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jaunte  May 16, 2018 • 7:37:38pm

re: #398 Ace Rothstein

I think Hoover was running the Bureau.

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Ace Rothstein  May 16, 2018 • 7:37:51pm

No fucking way.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 7:38:07pm

re: #398 Ace Rothstein

Please refresh my memory when Republicans supported the FBI, and law enforcement, and counter-espionage.

When J Edgar Hoover was in charge

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2018 • 7:38:49pm

re: #388 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Remember when Republicans supported the FBI, and law enforcement, and counter-espionage?

I remember when Rudy specifically accused Dems of hating LEO for wanting them to be held individually accountable but it’s okay for Rudy to do that. I hate these assholes so much.

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teleskiguy  May 16, 2018 • 7:38:54pm

re: #378 The Vicious Babushka

Trump’s neck skin is so saggy it looks like he has balls on his neck. Oh wait THOSE ARE HIS BALLS.

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Amory Blaine  May 16, 2018 • 7:39:28pm

My mother was banned from the church I went to school at because she was divorced. They held me close to their bosom, trying to keep me from the sin.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2018 • 7:41:43pm

re: #405 Amory Blaine

My mother was banned from the church I went to school at because she was divorced. They held me close to their bosom, trying to keep me from the sin.

That’s awful. I’m not inherently anti religion but I also don’t think religion is inherently good either.

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jaunte  May 16, 2018 • 7:41:48pm
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makeitstop  May 16, 2018 • 7:41:51pm

re: #401 Ace Rothstein

No fucking way.

[Embedded content]

You get what you pay for.

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jaunte  May 16, 2018 • 7:42:35pm

Manafort worked “for free” too.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2018 • 7:42:40pm

re: #404 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

Caption: Yes, he thinks he can judge women on their looks.

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Ace Rothstein  May 16, 2018 • 7:43:06pm

re: #409 jaunte

Manafort worked “for free” too.

So did the Mooch.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 7:44:11pm
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jaunte  May 16, 2018 • 7:44:46pm

re: #384 The Vicious Babushka

Rudy Giuliani on Russia investigation: “When I ran against [Democrats] they were looking for dirt on me every day, I mean, that’s what you do…Nothing illegal about that. And even if it comes from a Russian or a German or an American, it doesn’t matter.”

Joyce Alene:

@JoyceWhiteVance
The right response here: a call to the FBI when approached by foreign citizens offering assistance (because that violates the law). The wrong response? “We were disappointed that they didn’t have anything damaging to offer”-in other words, we wanted to break the law with them.

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Single-handed sailor  May 16, 2018 • 7:46:47pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 16, 2018 • 7:48:46pm

re: #412 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m dying here. That line just killed me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 7:48:48pm

re: #414 Single-handed sailor

this is rapidly becoming one of my favorite twitter accounts

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 7:49:40pm
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ObserverArt  May 16, 2018 • 7:51:31pm

re: #384 The Vicious Babushka

Rudy just can’t shut the fuck up.

[Embedded content]

Probably a good thing. Hopefully he sinks Trump with his mouth.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2018 • 7:51:33pm

re: #372 Jay C

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In my case, it wasn’t even that far back: all four of my grandparents were immigrants: born in (what’s today) Poland and/or Belarus - and I’m sure they would have had a few choice phrases (in Yiddish) for the likes of The Donald. Which type I’m sure they had to deal with back in the 1910’s - one would have thought we would have improved a bit a hundred years on….

Same here — all four grandparents were immigrants from Poland and Ukraine and their children were all born here. My mother’s mother never learned to read English and her verbal command of the language was very limited. None of them would have respected someone like the Donald. Unfortunately, some of their offspring and grandchildren are on the Trump train.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2018 • 7:53:39pm

re: #419 Hecuba’s daughter

Same here — all four grandparents were immigrants from Poland and Ukraine and their children were all born here. My mother’s mother never learned to read English and her verbal command of the language was very limited. None of them would have respected someone like the Donald. Unfortunately, some of their offspring and grandchildren are on the Trump train.

That’s the most disappointing thing for me. Some of my relatives know how hard our ancestors had it but have no empathy for todays immigrants.

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teleskiguy  May 16, 2018 • 7:57:15pm

re: #410 HappyWarrior

Caption: Yes, he thinks he can judge women on their looks.

This is photoshopped. Check his shirt collar, the shadows don’t match.

caveat emptor

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Hecuba's daughter  May 16, 2018 • 7:57:40pm

In the Yanny vs Laurel showdown, I’m with Laurel!

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jaunte  May 16, 2018 • 7:57:46pm
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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 7:57:55pm

re: #416 Backwoods_Sleuth

this is rapidly becoming one of my favorite twitter accounts

Many of the people from my neighborhood on the app are nutz so this account really speaks to me and cracks me up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 7:58:18pm
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teleskiguy  May 16, 2018 • 7:58:31pm

re: #422 Hecuba’s daughter

In the Yanny vs Laurel showdown, I’m with Laurel!

I’m with

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 8:00:27pm

re: #424 JordanRules

Many of the people from my neighborhood on the app are nutz so this account really speaks to me and cracks me up.

Now I want a tiny dinosaur to show up in my garage.
And I won’t yell at it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 8:01:22pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2018 • 8:01:32pm

re: #426 teleskiguy

I’m glad Yanni is getting some love today.

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2018 • 8:01:35pm

re: #388 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Remember when Republicans supported the FBI, and law enforcement, and counter-espionage?

Don’t worry, they will when the Democrats get grips on DC.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2018 • 8:01:39pm

re: #421 teleskiguy

This is photoshopped. Check his shirt collar, the shadows don’t match.

caveat emptor

Oh I see but you get my point, he looks like a troll yet judges women.

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Kragar  May 16, 2018 • 8:01:41pm

re: #423 jaunte

433
Patricia Kayden  May 16, 2018 • 8:02:37pm

re: #384 The Vicious Babushka

Rudy just can’t shut the fuck up.

[Embedded content]

Keep spilling the tea, Rudy. Mueller is listening.

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jaunte  May 16, 2018 • 8:03:21pm

re: #427 Backwoods_Sleuth

Once upon a time when I was a kid in Venezuela, one of my assigned yardwork chores was to remove large iguanas from the mouth of our german shepherd after she had clamped down on them.

435
Kragar  May 16, 2018 • 8:04:20pm
436
The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2018 • 8:04:35pm

Wait, whut!

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2018 • 8:05:49pm

re: #435 Kragar

[Embedded content]

JFC.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 16, 2018 • 8:07:16pm

re: #428 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Typical Pittsburgh. If one of the tributary creek watersheds gets a lot of rainfall you get instant local flood. And most of the roads in that area either run on top of the ridge, or down in the gully alongside the creek.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 16, 2018 • 8:08:24pm

re: #436 The Vicious Babushka

Wait, whut!

[Embedded content]

Teaching children about nature’s creatures one drowning at a time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 8:09:36pm
441
The Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2018 • 8:10:24pm

re: #439 Feline Fearless Leader

Teaching children about nature’s creatures one drowning at a time.

The headline makes it seem that he was drowning students & raccoons together.

442
Bubblehead II  May 16, 2018 • 8:10:34pm

re: #397 Jay C

Geez, even in Idaho? Maybe there’s even hope for the Native American woman running for Governor as (D)?*

* doubtful, though nice to think about

Her name is Paulette Jordan.

I voted for her and will again vote for her in the mid-terms.

If you have a few extra bucks, send them her way please. The DNC and and DNCC are pretty much ignoring her as they consider Idaho a “R” “safe” seat that they can’t win so, as usual ignore “D” candidates.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 8:11:22pm
444
MsJ  May 16, 2018 • 8:12:21pm

This thread. Read it.

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MsJ  May 16, 2018 • 8:16:11pm

re: #436 The Vicious Babushka

Wait, whut!

[Embedded content]

AKA Serial Killer 101.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 8:16:55pm
447
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 8:17:52pm
448
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 8:18:32pm

re: #447 Backwoods_Sleuth

449
goddamnedfrank  May 16, 2018 • 8:18:44pm

re: #428 Backwoods_Sleuth

450
JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 8:18:58pm
451
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 8:19:50pm

re: #449 goddamnedfrank

The only thing that would make that video better is if the Dumpster was on fire.

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JordanRules  May 16, 2018 • 8:20:40pm

re: #447 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Just ask Lauren Duca about creepy Tucker.

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Jay C  May 16, 2018 • 8:22:21pm

re: #440 Backwoods_Sleuth

Myself, I’d turn the rude, vulgar metaphor around: Trump inherited a relationship with a “younger, hotter Korea” (SK), but went ahead and cheated on her anyway with an older, frumpier, nastier Korea (NK) because he though she would boost his status on the world stage. Which the “old frump” trashed in any case by publicly dumping the Talking Yam. and making sure the world knew it was his fault.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 8:22:43pm
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MsJ  May 16, 2018 • 8:27:34pm

They’re are several videos. 😂🤣😂🤣

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 16, 2018 • 8:27:38pm
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wheat-dogg  May 16, 2018 • 8:28:57pm

re: #444 MsJ

This thread. Read it.

FinCEN is supposed to be the bulwark against money laundering and bank fraud. It’s been in the news for other reasons recently, because some cryptocurrency projects and dealers have run afoul of FinCEN regulations. No one can set up a money exchange or payment processing business (like PayPal) without FinCEN approval. IOW FinCEN is supposed to be foundation of an honest and transparent financial system in the USA. “Losing” SARs from the database is a Big Deal, because it suggests the sacrosanct FinCEN monitoring system has been corrupted or has been managed in some non-transparent manner. It’s an attack on the reliability and trustworthiness of the US banking system. That’s why the leaker was so appalled.

Multiple banks were flagging Cohen’s accounts for suspicious activities, but apparently doing nothing to report them to law enforcement or to restrict Cohen’s access to the accounts. That’s another big concern.

For context, if one of us received an atypical $10,001 deposit into our bank account, or if we sent the equivalent amount to someone else, the banks and the feds would be knocking at our door with questions. Our accounts would be frozen right away.

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goddamnedfrank  May 16, 2018 • 8:29:38pm

re: #451 Backwoods_Sleuth

The only thing that would make that video better is if the Dumpster was on fire.

It’s so stately, so regal!

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BeachDem  May 16, 2018 • 8:32:14pm

re: #384 The Vicious Babushka

Rudy just can’t shut the fuck up.

[Embedded content]

As I recall it, when Rudy ran against Democrats in 2008, the Democrats were too busy laughing at his idiotic strategy to spend much time on oppo.

That strategy netted him 4% in Iowa, 9% in New Hampshire, 3% in Michigan, 4% in Nevada, 2% in South Carolina, and in Florida, where he put all his marbles, he came in 3rd with 20%, at which point he dropped out, having spent $65.7 million to garner zero delegates. Quite the political genius, that Rudy.

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jaunte  May 16, 2018 • 8:33:24pm
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allegro  May 16, 2018 • 8:34:13pm

I just had borscht made by a Russian as taught by his mama. OMG that was amazingly delicious. And I hate beets. He also whispered to me “Trump is Putin’s beetch” when we got started talking politics. LOL

Now back to catching up on the thread.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2018 • 8:36:22pm

re: #459 BeachDem

As I recall it, when Rudy ran against Democrats in 2008, the Democrats were too busy laughing at his idiotic strategy to spend much time on oppo.

That strategy netted him 4% in Iowa, 9% in New Hampshire, 3% in Michigan, 4% in Nevada, 2% in South Carolina, and in Florida, where he put all his marbles, he came in 3rd with 20%, at which point he dropped out, having spent $65.7 million to garner zero delegates. Quite the political genius, that Rudy.

I think Rudy holds a grudge because he’s convinced he would have beat HRC. Pirro too.


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