Wednesday Night Badass Jam: Roosevelt Collier Rockin’ Pedal Steel: “Happy Feet”

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The official music video for “Happy Feet“ by Roosevelt Collier, from his full length album “Exit 16” out on GroundUP Music. Join Roosevelt for his album release show in NYC on 5/21: lpr.com

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Produced by Michael League

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Roosevelt Collier: Pedal Steel Guitar
Michael League: Bass Guitar
Jason “JT” Thomas: Drums
Bobby Sparks: Keys

Engineered and mixed by Nic Hard
Mastered by Dave McNair Mastering
Directed by Stella K

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Ace-o-aces  May 16, 2018 • 8:30:54pm
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wheat-dogg  May 16, 2018 • 8:34:29pm

I got CL’d. Repeating my comment here.

re: #444 MsJ

This thread. Read it.

FinCEN is supposed to be the bulwark against money laundering and bank fraud. It’s been in the news for other reasons recently, because some cryptocurrency projects and dealers have run afoul of FinCEN regulations. No one can set up a money exchange or payment processing business (like PayPal) without FinCEN approval. IOW FinCEN is supposed to be foundation of an honest and transparent financial system in the USA. “Losing” SARs from the database is a Big Deal, because it suggests the sacrosanct FinCEN monitoring system has been corrupted or has been managed in some non-transparent manner. It’s an attack on the reliability and trustworthiness of the US banking system. That’s why the leaker was so appalled.

Multiple banks were flagging Cohen’s accounts for suspicious activities, but apparently doing nothing to report them to law enforcement or to restrict Cohen’s access to the accounts. That’s another big concern.

For context, if one of us received an atypical $10,001 deposit into our bank account, or if we sent the equivalent amount to someone else, the banks and the feds would be knocking at our door with questions. Our accounts would be frozen right away.

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prairiefire  May 16, 2018 • 8:37:53pm

re: #2 wheat-dogg

WD, I appreciate your take on things. I don’t think the US has been so isolated since 1962.

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wheat-dogg  May 16, 2018 • 8:38:31pm

Speaking of CL, I wondering if anyone else noticed the timing of the Jerusalem embassy “opening” — literally the day before the start of Ramadan.

The cynic in me suggests the timing was not accidental.

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wheat-dogg  May 16, 2018 • 8:40:46pm

re: #3 prairiefire

WD, I appreciate your take on things. I don’t think the US has been so isolated since 1962.

Trump & Co. are dismantling the USA from the inside out, like termites in an old house.

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HappyWarrior  May 16, 2018 • 8:44:12pm

re: #1 Ace-o-aces

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Trump is the orange goblin.

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makeitstop  May 16, 2018 • 8:44:42pm

That was pretty badass. He does some really cool stuff. The easy comparison is to Robert Randolph, but Roosevelt’s playing is closer to Jeff Beck than Randolph.

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Kragar  May 16, 2018 • 8:48:15pm
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Ace-o-aces  May 16, 2018 • 8:52:15pm
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BigPapa  May 16, 2018 • 8:56:06pm

I’ve not listened to Grimes’ Pandora station since The Picture. This is significant.

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makeitstop  May 16, 2018 • 8:57:08pm

He’s running.
///

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 16, 2018 • 8:57:45pm

Still trundling along on the original Dr. Who. I’m up to episode 11 of the second season now. The first companion to drop out, the Doctor’s granddaughter Susan (Carole Ann Ford), was just written out in the previous serial. She was not killed off, fortunately, but left behind on 22nd century Earth so she could marry the local boy with whom she had fallen in love.
I am pleased to report that Ford is still with us, age 77; as is another original companion, William Russell (Ian Chesterton). Mr. Russell is now 93 years of age. The third of the originals, Jacqueline Hill (Barbara Wright) died in 1993. The series has not yet picked up a new companion, but will shortly in the person of Maureen O’Brien as Vicki. O’Brien is also still alive (age 74)..

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ObserverArt  May 16, 2018 • 9:04:00pm

You can tell how competent a lawyer Rudy is by his deft handling of this Trump thing.

And he’s not even getting paid. Whattaguy!

I know the old saying about being your own lawyer.

Is there one for a lawyer that is doing whatever Rudy is doing for free?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 16, 2018 • 9:04:22pm

re: #12 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Still trundling along on the original Dr. Who. I’m up to episode 11 of the second season now. The first companion to drop out, the Doctor’s granddaughter Susan (Carole Ann Ford), was just written out in the previous serial. She was not killed off, fortunately, but left behind on 22nd century Earth so she could marry the local boy with whom she had fallen in love.
I am pleased to report that Ford is still with us, age 77; as is another original companion, William Russell (Ian Chesterton). Mr. Russell is now 93 years of age. The third of the originals, Jacqueline Hill (Barbara Wright) died in 1993. The series has not yet picked up a new companion, but will shortly in the person of Maureen O’Brien as Vicki. O’Brien is also still alive (age 74)..

I wish that they had preserved all of the Hartnell and Troughton episodes. My favorite Dr is Jon Pertwee. Also liked him as Worzel Gummidge.

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MsJ  May 16, 2018 • 9:05:55pm

re: #13 ObserverArt

You can tell how competent a lawyer Rudy is by his deft handling of this Trump thing.

And he’s not even getting paid. Whattaguy!

I know the old saying about being your own lawyer.

Is there one for a lawyer that is doing whatever Rudy is doing for free?

You get what you pay for.

A moron.

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MsJ  May 16, 2018 • 9:10:57pm

Welp… Who did Nazi this coming?

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ckkatz  May 16, 2018 • 9:10:57pm

re: #333 Feline Fearless Leader

There is an anecdote that during the US Civil War there was a dispute and a Union general (Meade possibly) threw some reporters out of the Army of the Potomac’s camp. In response the reporters collectively agreed to not mention Meade again in their dispatches and articles. They would report on the events and campaign, but not mention Meade by name at all.

(From the previous thread)
Your memory is excellent!

“Others besides Sherman could have served Joseph Heller as a model for Catch-22 ‘s General Dreedle (“Take him out and shoot him!”). During the 1864 Virginia campaign, for example, Gen. Ambrose Burnside became so outraged at the criticisms of William Swinton of The New York Times that he ordered the correspondent before a firing squad. Ulysses S. Grant, the new general-in-chief, reduced the sentence to banishment from the army. Edward Crapsey of the Philadelphia Inquirer , in trying to explain the working relationship between Grant and the Army of the Potomac commander, George Gordon Meade, during the same campaign, made the mistake of arousing the terrible-tempered Meade. Before expelling him from the army, the general had Crapsey mounted on a mule and, to the accompaniment of the “Rogue’s March,” paraded him through the camps bearing placards front and back reading “Libeller of the Press.” “It will be a warning to his Tribe,” Meade’s provost marshal wrote with satisfaction in his diary. This humiliation of the respected Crapsey united his fellow correspondents; for the remainder of the campaign they consistently excluded Meade’s name from their dispatches, except in connection with any check the army suffered. “

americanheritage.com

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wheat-dogg  May 16, 2018 • 9:14:54pm

re: #17 ckkatz

Imagine if everyone in American media (excepting Fox Nooz of course) agreed to never refer to Trump by name. He’d have apoplexy.

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Kragar  May 16, 2018 • 9:21:43pm
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KGxvi  May 16, 2018 • 9:25:17pm

Decided to reread Kennedy & Nixon by Chris Matthews. About 50 pages in, I forgot how much alike they were in their early careers.

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ckkatz  May 16, 2018 • 9:25:29pm

re: #18 wheat-dogg

Imagine if everyone in American media (excepting Fox Nooz of course) agreed to never refer to Trump by name. He’d have apoplexy.

For what ever reason, I have been continually surprised at how much crap media people take off him while they adoringly report on him.

And, until recently, how much the media seems to have suppressed about his past. It’s not like they hadn’t been following him for 50 years.

Manwhile Hillary, it seemed to me, couldn’t get any traction at all. The NYT seems to have been particularly doing this. I am sure that there is a book that will be written about its 2016 failures.

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KGxvi  May 16, 2018 • 9:28:04pm

re: #21 ckkatz

For what ever reason, I have been continually surprised at how much crap media people take off him while they adoringly report on him.

And, until recently, how much the media seems to have suppressed about his past. It’s not like they hadn’t been following him for 50 years.

Manwhile Hillary, it seemed to me, couldn’t get any traction at all. The NYT seems to have been particularly doing this. I am sure that there is a book that will be written about its 2016 failures.

I think it always goes back to that one thought so many of us (including Trump himself) had: there was no way he could win. Clinton got the harsh treatment because so many were resigned to the fact that she would win. Trump was a sideshow and was covered as such.

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whitebeach  May 16, 2018 • 9:31:41pm

re: #21 ckkatz

For what ever reason, I have been continually surprised at how much crap media people take off him while they adoringly report on him.

And, until recently, how much the media seems to have suppressed about his past. It’s not like they hadn’t been following him for 50 years.

Manwhile Hillary, it seemed to me, couldn’t get any traction at all. The NYT seems to have been particularly doing this. I am sure that there is a book that will be written about its 2016 failures.

They’d better write it damn soon, because if he gets a second term, at about this stage in it, books like what you are talking about will be used mainly as kindling for burning immigrants at the stake.

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ckkatz  May 16, 2018 • 9:35:39pm

re: #22 KGxvi

I think it always goes back to that one thought so many of us (including Trump himself) had: there was no way he could win. Clinton got the harsh treatment because so many were resigned to the fact that she would win. Trump was a sideshow and was covered as such.

Good point. Trump’s campaign reminds me of Mel Brooks’ “The Producers”. A scam that would only succeed if the campaign failed.

Hah. More years ago than I want to admit, I was the member of Boy Scout troop at a leadership camp. We had one guy in our patrol that nobody particularly liked. We were always talking about what an idiot he was. When Senior Patrol Leader elections came up, he had the most name recognition. And won.

I also wonder if the NYT viewed Trump as a member of the New York in-crowd and treated him as one of them.

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wheat-dogg  May 16, 2018 • 9:36:46pm

re: #22 KGxvi

I think it always goes back to that one thought so many of us (including Trump himself) had: there was no way he could win. Clinton got the harsh treatment because so many were resigned to the fact that she would win. Trump was a sideshow and was covered as such.

The media were caught violating the prime rule of journalism: assume nothing. Reporters are supposed to question *everything* doublecheck *everything*. Ditto their editors. Yet, most of them assumed that HRC would win and DJT would lose, and planned their coverage of same accordingly. Trouble is, once Trump won, they did not revise their coverage much. Clinton was still flawed, Trump was still the dark horse ready to turn Washington upside down.

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ckkatz  May 16, 2018 • 9:46:06pm

re: #23 whitebeach

They’d better write it damn soon, because if he gets a second term, at about this stage in it, books like what you are talking about will be used mainly as kindling for burning immigrants at the stake.

On your larger point, I am with you and dearly hope that we do not have to suffer through a second term. I worry enough about what will still be standing in 2.5 years of Trump.

Heh! When I read your post,though, my first thought was: Oh No! I hope that they don’t write that book until I finish reading the current pile of books, including Timothy Snyder’s and Madeleine Albright’s. Currently I and reading Atul Gawande’s “Being Mortal”. (An excellent book, by the way.)

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whitebeach  May 16, 2018 • 9:49:06pm

re: #25 wheat-dogg

The media were caught violating the prime rule of journalism: assume nothing. Reporters are supposed to question *everything* doublecheck *everything*. Ditto their editors.

I fear that you are living in a dream of “All the President’s Men.” Broadcast journalism hasn’t been like that since, roughly, CBS moved its news broadcasts into its entertainment division, and certainly since cable swept in, not even to mention the Internet. Even print news, on the few serious papers that survive, is a poor imitation of what it once was, largely because it has been taken over by giant corporations that care no more about good journalism than CBS did when it stabbed its newspeople in the back.

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wheat-dogg  May 16, 2018 • 10:00:04pm

re: #27 whitebeach

I fear that you are living in a dream of “All the President’s Men.” Broadcast journalism hasn’t been like that since, roughly, CBS moved its news broadcasts into its entertainment division, and certainly since cable swept in, not even to mention the Internet. Even print news, on the few serious papers that survive, is a poor imitation of what it once was, largely because it has been taken over by giant corporations that care no more about good journalism than CBS did when it stabbed its newspeople in the back.

I did say “are supposed to.” I should remind you that I used to be in the newspapering business, and I harbor no hopes that journalists ( and least of all their publishers) will suddenly wake up to become protectors of the public interest. Newspapers especially operate on paper-thin profit margins, and it takes a bold publisher to risk his or her financial well-being by pissing off politicians and advertisers. It does happen, albeit sporadically. And while it may be the equivalent of closing the barn doors after the horses have bolted, there are now several reporters from several agencies investigating the Trump Horror. It’s not as if The Media are letting him get away scot-free.

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Romantic Heretic  May 16, 2018 • 10:09:26pm

re: #23 whitebeach

They’d better write it damn soon, because if he gets a second term, at about this stage in it, books like what you are talking about will be used mainly as kindling for burning immigrants at the stake.

Which is a scene in my novel set during the Second American Civil War.

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BeachDem  May 16, 2018 • 10:10:02pm

re: #24 ckkatz

Good point. Trump’s campaign reminds me of Mel Brooks’ “The Producers”. A scam that would only succeed if the campaign failed.

Hah. More years ago than I want to admit, I was the member of Boy Scout troop at a leadership camp. We had one guy in our patrol that nobody particularly liked. We were always talking about what an idiot he was. When Senior Patrol Leader elections came up, he had the most name recognition. And won.

I also wonder if the NYT viewed Trump as a member of the New York in-crowd and treated him as one of them.

Putney Swope.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2018 • 10:48:02pm

re: #12 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Still trundling along on the original Dr. Who. I’m up to episode 11 of the second season now. The first companion to drop out, the Doctor’s granddaughter Susan (Carole Ann Ford), was just written out in the previous serial. She was not killed off, fortunately, but left behind on 22nd century Earth so she could marry the local boy with whom she had fallen in love.
I am pleased to report that Ford is still with us, age 77; as is another original companion, William Russell (Ian Chesterton). Mr. Russell is now 93 years of age. The third of the originals, Jacqueline Hill (Barbara Wright) died in 1993. The series has not yet picked up a new companion, but will shortly in the person of Maureen O’Brien as Vicki. O’Brien is also still alive (age 74)..

I recall watching it as a teenager on PBS with John Pertwee and Tom Baker. Have not followed much of it since.

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wheat-dogg  May 16, 2018 • 10:49:50pm

re: #30 BeachDem

Putney Swope.

Trumps have only barely been accepted into the NY In Crowd. New York Old Money families still regard them as declassé. Donald Trump has been trying to fit into Manhattan high society since he left Queens to be a real estate wheeler-dealer in Manhattan. Everything he’s done since has been a desperate attempt to win acceptance by the New York gentry.

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freetoken  May 16, 2018 • 10:50:30pm

re: #31 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I too started watching when Pertwee was the Doctor. PBS would air Dr. Who. I never really followed along close enough for the story lines to make much sense.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2018 • 10:51:56pm

re: #21 ckkatz

For what ever reason, I have been continually surprised at how much crap media people take off him while they adoringly report on him.

I was in an airport the day they spent hours showing an empty podium waiting for Trump to come up and give empty excuses about his charitable foundation. Meanwhile Hillary was giving a speech about better job opportunities for handicapped people.

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wheat-dogg  May 16, 2018 • 10:52:16pm

re: #33 freetoken

I too started watching when Pertwee was the Doctor. PBS would air Dr. Who. I never really followed along close enough for the story lines to make much sense.

You expect too much.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2018 • 10:54:01pm

re: #33 freetoken

I too started watching when Pertwee was the Doctor. PBS would air Dr. Who. I never really followed along close enough for the story lines to make much sense.

I was a teenager, I was too stoned to care…

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Ace-o-aces  May 16, 2018 • 10:54:12pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 16, 2018 • 11:03:16pm

Speaking of old British Sci-Fi TV—I can’t believe they threw away the kinescopes of A for Andromeda.

There are a few fragments on YouTube, but it was Julie Christie’s first part—you’d think they’d hang onto them for that reason alone.

(Yes, I know there was a remake.)

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sagehen  May 16, 2018 • 11:05:05pm

re: #32 wheat-dogg

Trumps have only barely been accepted into the NY In Crowd. New York Old Money families still regard them as declassé. Donald Trump has been trying to fit into Manhattan high society since he left Queens to be a real estate wheeler-dealer in Manhattan. Everything he’s done since has been a desperate attempt to win acceptance by the New York gentry.

The new money high society gentry doesn’t accept him either, because he never donates to any of the causes. Nothing for any of the museums, or Lincoln Center, or the Library, or any of the diseases, or the parks, or the schools, or any goddamn thing at all.

Nobody thinks the Kochs are warm and fuzzy, but they’re welcome everywhere because they paid for a complete refurbishment/upgrade of one of the theaters at Lincoln Center (the one where ballet/opera/symphony happens), and a pretty comprehensive evolution exhibit at the Museum of Natural History (the one where Neil DeGrasse Tyson heads the planetarium), and a few rooms at the Met (none of the Trump women are ever invited to the big fashion foofaraw Met Ball, which this summer will be the site of the heist in Ocean’s 8).

People here still talk about the time Trump showed up at a big AIDS fundraiser he hadn’t been invited to, pushed his way onto the stage and took someone else’s seat, announced he was pledging a million dollars, and then never sent any money at all.

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wheat-dogg  May 16, 2018 • 11:05:54pm

Off to teach young minds. Speech competition tonight, too. I’ll be gone for a while.

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wheat-dogg  May 16, 2018 • 11:08:10pm

re: #39 sagehen

The new money high society gentry doesn’t accept him either, because he never donates to any of the causes. Nothing for any of the museums, or Lincoln Center, or the Library, or any of the diseases, or the parks, or the schools, or any goddamn thing at all.

Nobody thinks the Kochs are warm and fuzzy, but they’re welcome everywhere because they paid for a complete refurbishment/upgrade of one of the theaters at Lincoln Center (the one where ballet/opera/symphony happens), and a pretty comprehensive evolution exhibit at the Museum of Natural History (the one where Neil DeGrasse Tyson heads the planetarium), and a few rooms at the Met (none of the Trump women are ever invited to the big fashion foofaraw Met Ball, which this summer will be the site of the heist in Ocean’s 8).

People here still talk about the time Trump showed up at a big AIDS fundraiser he hadn’t been invited to, pushed his way onto the stage and took someone else’s seat, announced he was pledging a million dollars, and then never sent any money at all.

If F. Scott Fitzgerald were still around, he’d be crafting a novel about the Trump family.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2018 • 11:11:49pm

re: #39 sagehen

People here still talk about the time Trump showed up at a big AIDS fundraiser he hadn’t been invited to, pushed his way onto the stage and took someone else’s seat, announced he was pledging a million dollars, and then never sent any money at all.

Makes one think of that empty podium that the press was fixated on

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Anymouse 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 12:18:54am

My wife and I got back from Cheyenne a bit ago.

Man, there are wheels-up irrigation systems and damaged property all over the east side of my county.

The state governor has not yet issued a disaster declaration, though I see we made news across the country …

seattletimes.com

BROADWATER, Neb. (AP) — Property owners have been clearing away debris and making repairs on buildings damaged by what’s been described as a tornado in the Nebraska Panhandle.

The twister was reported around 5:20 p.m. Thursday near Broadwater. The National Weather Service says people and emergency personnel have reported power lines and trees down and outbuildings and roofs damaged. No injuries have been reported.

Straight-line winds also are suspected of blowing over a semitrailer in Alden.

Another tornado was reported around 9 p.m. about 7 miles (12 kilometers) north of Wallace. And egg-size hail was reported near Ogallala and Lewellen. (the second town is in Garden County, next county over from us and two towns away - Ogallala is seventy miles away)

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Anymouse 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 12:22:15am

Also, as my wife and I were headed out, the village maintenance mechanic was parked in front of my house in the village truck. He told me he’d just cleared all the major debris from my yard for me and hauled it to the giant truck-sized Dumpster the trash company donated to the village.

He’d been out all day helping the elderly, but stopped by my house due to disability.

I asked him if he’d put in a time sheet; he said he was volunteering to help out those in town who needed help. I suggested that both for insurance purposes and because he is putting in his time, he deserves to be paid. The village board is not going to object to paying him for overtime work in the aftermath of the tornado.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 12:24:06am

re: #42 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Makes one think of that empty podium that the press was fixated on

The press thought the podium was running for President.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 12:30:25am

I suppose the Internet of Things in this case could have a positive medical purpose, but it seems we’re going out on a limb here (literally):

Smart Sophy Socks Send Data to Your Physiotherapist (BBC, caution for autoplay video):

These smart internet-connected SoPhy socks could enable you to be treated by a doctor or physiotherapist anywhere in the world.

They have three sensors reading weight distribution, movement and orientation of the foot.

The system visualises data for both patient and doctor to help with assessment and treatment.

BBC Click finds out more.

See more at Click’s website [video, 1:32] and @BBCClick.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 12:35:16am

re: #46 Anymouse 🌹

Do you sometimes feel like we are the last two living cells in a dying body?

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freetoken  May 17, 2018 • 12:39:23am

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹

I see the SPC outlook for Thursday and Friday has western Nebraska at risk for some storms.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 12:45:20am

re: #47 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Do you sometimes feel like we are the last two living cells in a dying body?

You’ll pry my dial telephone from my cold dead hands.

re: #48 freetoken

I see the SPC outlook for Thursday and Friday has western Nebraska at risk for some storms.

Yay. The south half of the Panhandle (where I live).

Day 2 Convective Outlook
NWS Storm Prediction Center Norman OK
1200 AM CDT Thu May 17 2018

Valid 181200Z - 191200Z

…THERE IS A SLIGHT RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS FRIDAY AFTERNOON
AND EVENING NEAR THE FRONT RANGE OF THE ROCKIES EASTWARD INTO THE
CENTRAL PLAINS…

…SUMMARY…
Severe thunderstorms are possible near the Front Range of the
Rockies eastward into parts of the central Plains Friday afternoon
and evening.

I’d like to see a disaster declaration from last Thursday’s tornado before we get another.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 12:51:50am

Ebola spreads into a city in DR Congo of a million people, on a major route to the capital.

bbc.com

When Obama was faced with an Ebola crisis in Africa, the USA put forth a robust response to aid the affected countries and WHO, and work on preventing its spread.

Dollars to doughnuts the New Conservative Cruelty does absolutely nothing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 12:56:12am

re: #50 Anymouse 🌹

Ebola spreads into a city in DR Congo of a million people, on a major route to the capital.

bbc.com

When Obama was faced with an Ebola crisis in Africa, the USA put forth a robust response to aid the affected countries and WHO, and work on preventing its spread.

Dollars to doughnuts the New Conservative Cruelty does absolutely nothing.

because they want another excuse to exclude half the world from entering the USA

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Anymouse 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 1:03:20am

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

because they want another excuse to exclude half the world from entering the USA

That, and it’s “those people.”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 17, 2018 • 1:09:24am

re: #51 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

because they want another excuse to exclude half the world from entering the USA

The goobers and tea baggers will go apeshit, like they did during the last outbreak but much, much worse because the national leadership will be egging them on rather than trying to maintain calm and deal with the situation. The Merck vaccine was successful in the last outbreak and is being distributed now in the DRC, but it is still experimental, unlicensed. Imagine trying to get the antivaxx masses in this country to take it.

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Kragar  May 17, 2018 • 1:18:28am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 1:41:55am

re: #54 Kragar

The sexual revolution has been a catastrophic failure, having wrought only disease, abortion, divorce, unwed pregnancy, and other miseries, with none of the advantages it promised. Maybe it’s time to cut our losses and go back to the old way, which is the only way that works.

Translated: “We should return to a rose-tinted, idealized fuzzy memory of how things used to be but were not.”

The “Sexual Revolution” is still going on, we started to dislodge a lot of outdated attitudes decades ago but they still linger and a lot of attitudes about the roles of men and women are still in need of revision.

We have to recognize that although there can be such a thing as “casual sex”, sex without consequences is another matter: the sexual drive is based on the ultimate consequence, namely creating new life.

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Jay C  May 17, 2018 • 1:57:38am

re: #45 Anymouse 🌹

The press thought the podium was running for President.

It would be doing a better job than the incumbent….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 2:02:07am

re: #45 Anymouse 🌹

The press thought the podium was running for President.

The press decided that an empty podium waiting for Trump was a better draw for audiences than a live candidate giving a real speech about policy, and sadly, they were probably correct in that assumption.

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freetoken  May 17, 2018 • 2:52:40am
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steve_davis  May 17, 2018 • 3:35:19am

re: #14 Joe Bacon 🌹

I wish that they had preserved all of the Hartnell and Troughton episodes. My favorite Dr is Jon Pertwee. Also liked him as Worzel Gummidge.

i agree. i always preferred Pertwee over tom. Pertwee would have made one helluvan inspector morse as well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 3:36:37am

re: #59 steve_davis

i agree. i always preferred Pertwee over tom. Pertwee would have made one helluvan inspector morse as well.

I used to run around in high school in an army trenchcoat (pre-columbine days) to which I had added brass buttons and an eight-foot tom brightly colored morton scarf

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Targetpractice  May 17, 2018 • 3:43:10am

re: #54 Kragar

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I can see a lot of Matt’s anger likely stemming from the same place that so many douchebros draw from when railing against the change in sexual relations in the past century: The inability to score so much as a pity fuck during their formative years. The weapons-grade dickishness that turned off women and led them to hooking up with guys that Matt now regularly rails against as “weak” and “effeminate.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 3:54:51am

re: #61 Targetpractice

and that there was a time when most people did not choose their mates: they were selected by the family based on an advantageous social or property arrangement.

i.e.: we have three cows but only enough pasture for two. The family in the next village has a boy our daughter’s age and their cow just died. matter settled. she marries and takes the cow, we get a share of the milk.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 4:03:46am

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and that there was a time when most people did not choose their mates: they were selected by the family based on an advantageous social or property arrangement.

i.e.: we have three cows but only enough pasture for two. The family in the next village has a boy our daughter’s age and their cow just died. matter settled. she marries and takes the cow, we get a share of the milk.

This whole “marriage for love thing” can be overrated (I suggested that to my wife and she shook a rolling pin at me). (::

Marrying by the “love” method didn’t work out for her first two or my first marriages. On the other hand, back in the days of arranged marriages, it was tough to get out of them.

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Targetpractice  May 17, 2018 • 4:03:57am

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and that there was a time when most people did not choose their mates: they were selected by the family based on an advantageous social or property arrangement.

i.e.: we have three cows but only enough pasture for two. The family in the next village has a boy our daughter’s age and their cow just died. matter settled. she marries and takes the cow, we get a share of the milk.

It’s one of those things that makes me so amused by guys like Matt, they pine for the very thing they sneer and deride in “less-civilized” cultures: The idea of arranged marriages and treating sex as a commodity. They will point to Muslim-majority countries and declare America “better” because women can receive an education, but secretly they rage that such education in the West involves topics other than homemaking and pleasing a man. They want a return to a time when an education was viewed as “wasted” on a woman, that she was just going to “end up” pregnant and then her future would be spent raising children and tending the home.

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Targetpractice  May 17, 2018 • 4:05:57am

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹

This whole “marriage for love thing” can be overrated (I suggested that to my wife and she shook a rolling pin at me). (::

Marrying by the “love” method didn’t work out for her first two or my first marriages. On the other hand, back in the days of arranged marriages, it was tough to get out of them.

Marriage for love is a (relatively) recent thing in human history, only really becoming common in the Victorian Era when men and women started leaving the farm for the city and finding out that treating marriage as a business arrangement did not mean much if the intended couple had little material wealth between them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 4:08:03am

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹

This whole “marriage for love thing” can be overrated (I suggested that to my wife and she shook a rolling pin at me). (::

Marrying by the “love” method didn’t work out for her first two or my first marriages. On the other hand, back in the days of arranged marriages, it was tough to get out of them.

It was a business arrangement, and part of a much bigger picture. We had not reached the age of individualism; you were part of a clan or an extended family all your life. It was often a matter of the entire family’s well-being or even survival.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 4:09:31am

re: #64 Targetpractice

…They want a return to a time when an education was viewed as “wasted” on a woman, that she was just going to “end up” pregnant and then her future would be spent raising children and tending the home.

Education is not wasted on a woman who is going to home school her children…

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Anymouse 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 4:15:26am

re: #64 Targetpractice

It’s one of those things that makes me so amused by guys like Matt, they pine for the very thing they sneer and deride in “less-civilized” cultures: The idea of arranged marriages and treating sex as a commodity. They will point to Muslim-majority countries and declare America “better” because women can receive an education, but secretly they rage that such education in the West involves topics other than homemaking and pleasing a man. They want a return to a time when an education was viewed as “wasted” on a woman, that she was just going to “end up” pregnant and then her future would be spent raising children and tending the home.

She went to a college for an MRS degree.

My father’s Polish-born family had real difficulty with the idea that my mother could have ideas on her own.

Those good old days remind me of a story she told me: She wanted to buy a car (her parents’ used Nash) but my mother and father, both junior enlisted, really didn’t have the money for it.

She said she would walk down to the bank in our hometown (about the size of the one my wife and I live in now). My father asked, “Don’t they need me to sign a note?”

She responded, “Why? They don’t know you.”

Some time later she came back from the bank with the money for the car. My father couldn’t believe it and trooped down to the bank. “Don’t you need my signature on the loan?”

The bank owner responded, “Why? We don’t know you.”

Many years later when I bought my first car, I got a loan from the same bank. I was at NAS Memphis. I called the bank, and after talking with them on the phone, they sent me the money and the paperwork to fill out (in the same envelope). They knew who they could trust and who not to loan money to (if I defaulted for some reason they could get the money from my mother, my grandparents, my aunt, &c).

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Anymouse 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 4:19:11am

Trevor Noah skewers Betsy DeVos with a fake for-profit college advert. (5:13)

Fraudulent For-Profit Schools Make a Comeback Under Betsy DeVos | The Daily Show

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 4:23:26am

re: #68 Anymouse 🌹

She went to a college for an MRS degree.

My father’s Polish-born family had real difficulty with the idea that my mother could have ideas on her own.

Those good old days remind me of a story she told me: She wanted to buy a car (her parents’ used Nash) but my mother and father, both junior enlisted, really didn’t have the money for it.

She said she would walk down to the bank in our hometown (about the size of the one my wife and I live in now). My father asked, “Don’t they need me to sign a note?”

Not that surprising if he was raised old-school: Until 1959, it was the law in Germany that a married woman needed her husband’s signature on any legal document, from a bank loan to an employment contract.

Until 1974, the German Constitution specifically stated that it was the woman’s job to tend to the household and family.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 4:37:40am

re: #70 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Not that surprising if he was raised old-school: Until 1959, it was the law in Germany that a married woman needed her husband’s signature on any legal document, from a bank loan to an employment contract.

Until 1974, the German Constitution specifically stated that it was the woman’s job to tend to the household and family.

Well, my father didn’t have a problem with it, just his parents and grandparents. My mother’s parents and grandparents didn’t have those attitudes. (Strangely, my father’s mother joined the WAC.)

While it wasn’t the law here, banks and credit card companies frequently required women to get men to co-sign applications.

smithsonianmag.com

Forty years ago, any woman applying for a credit card could be asked a barrage of questions: Was she married? Did she plan to have children? Many banks required single, divorced or widowed women to bring a man along with them to cosign for a credit card, and some discounted the wages of women by as much as 50 percent when calculating their credit card limits.

As women and minorities pushed for equal civil rights in various arenas, credit cards became the focus of a series of hearings in which women documented the discrimination they faced. And, finally, in 1974—forty years ago this year—the Senate passed the Equal Credit Opportunity Act, which made it illegal to discriminate against someone based on their gender, race, religion and national origin.

(more at Smithsonian Magazine)

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  May 17, 2018 • 4:40:16am

In the small Ohio River Valley I grew up in, in the ‘50s it was considered sinful to own and use a credit card, male or female.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 4:48:14am

re: #72 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

In the small Ohio River Valley I grew up in, in the ‘50s it was considered sinful to own and use a credit card, male or female.

My mother’s family really didn’t do sin. /s

That said, we’ve all been careful with credit. When my wife and I bought our house in Nebraska, we paid cash. When my wife bought her previous home in Oklahoma, she paid cash.

Many businesses around here won’t take credit, not so much because of “sin” but because of poor banking support. (Only one bank in the area outside Scottsbluff issues credit cards at all. I can use my ATM card anywhere in North America and my bank charges no fee; I’ve used it in Canada for Canadian money - the only fee I am charged is for converting currency.)

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freetoken  May 17, 2018 • 4:48:24am

One of the worrying signs of the current age (the idiocracy) is the continued, surgent wave of anti-knowledge and downright nonsense that is being foisted upon the gullible in this land.

The craziest of creationists are hooking up with the flat-earthers in some sort of idiot-climax… to wit:

The Antarctica Secret, Why We Cannot Go The South Pole

Youtube Video

And there are a gazillion more where those came from.

Part of my ongoing theory of worldview collapse manifesting in the US includes the demonstrated need of many to escape rational thought. It’s as if the skills of deduction and induction are seen as conspiratorial, and the wilder a story that can be concocted to escape the better.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 4:52:28am

re: #74 freetoken

Creationists and flat earthers have been tied together for many years, since a lot of flat earthers depend on the Bible for support of their (unsupported) claims.

One of the most obnoxious flat earthers who posts on YouTube (the Internet delivers fascinating knowledge from all over the world, and delivers dubious crap just as fast) is a woman who goes by Orphan Red.

A video debunking one of her silly claims (and she has lots of followers, and this is one of the silliest “proofs” I ever heard, 12:35)

Flat Earth Proven by Triangles!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 4:52:48am

re: #72 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

In the small Ohio River Valley I grew up in, in the ‘50s it was considered sinful to own and use a credit card, male or female.

That is a cultural thing in Germany that was hard to overcome when credit cards first came out: the world Schuld mean both “debt” and “guilt”…and when a businessman had to declare bankruptcy, it was not uncommon for him to then put on his best suit and go hang himself in the attic.

If only the descendants of the Drumpf family had stuck to that tradition.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 4:55:14am

re: #74 freetoken

One of the worrying signs of the current age (the idiocracy) is the continued, surgent wave of anti-knowledge and downright nonsense that is being foisted upon the gullible in this land.

I again have to ask how much of this is just some sort of meta-ironic performance art put on by people who get a kick out seeing how people react.

And I wonder if the reactions themselves are sometimes not a meta-meta ironic form of responding to them.

But it is scary when we have a nation that cannot compare photos of two inaugurations and agree which one had the largest attendance.

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 17, 2018 • 4:57:51am

Good morning Lizards.

Gray and drizzly again here in the northeast. Cats are sitting in windows watching the birds fly by. Good time to drink coffee, catch up on media reports, and prepare for the rest of the day.

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jeffreyw  May 17, 2018 • 5:01:07am

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Good morning!

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 17, 2018 • 5:08:38am

[rudy] ATTEMPTED MURDER IS NOW A CRIME?!?!? WHY?!?! NOBODY GOT KILLED….LIBERAL WITCH HUNT…….RIDICULOUS…OF COURSE WE DID IT…..MOST AMERICANS ATTEMPT MURDER EVERY DAY …..MUELLER NEEDS TO WRAP THIS FARCE UP…[/rudy]

Morning Lizards

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Dave In Austin  May 17, 2018 • 5:13:05am

Oh boy……

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 5:23:35am

re: #81 Dave In Austin

Oh boy……

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I can’t imagine what she’s been through. Complete strangers going out of their way to say her grandson deserved to die.

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Dave In Austin  May 17, 2018 • 5:25:34am

re: #82 HappyWarrior

I can’t imagine what she’s been through. Complete strangers going out of their way to say her grandson deserved to die.

The city councilwoman in the second tweet is under huge heavy fire for that second tweet. And she’s completely correct.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 5:26:25am

Don Jr says his father was talking about MS-13. Calling bs on that. And you know what dehumanizing sucks regardless of the subject.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 5:27:11am

re: #83 Dave In Austin

The city councilwoman in the second tweet is under huge heavy fire for that second tweet. And she’s completely correct.

And ICE for Hispanics or anyone with a foreign accent.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 5:28:38am

re: #84 HappyWarrior

Don Jr says his father was talking about MS-13. Calling bs on that. And you know what dehumanizing sucks regardless of the subject.

I went back and checked the quote and it is vague enough in context to allow this wiggle room, but it was again not the sort of language that i want to hear coming from our President.

And I clearly see certain parallels in the way that Palestinian protesters are directly associated with Hamas the way that illegal immigrants are associated with drug gangs.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 5:31:07am

re: #86 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have not read the quote in its context.

But I see certain parallels in the way that Palestinian protesters are direclty associated with Hamas the way that illegal immigrants are associated with drug gangs.

That’s a good observation.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 5:31:45am

re: #82 HappyWarrior

I can’t imagine what she’s been through. Complete strangers going out of their way to say her grandson deserved to die.

Notice how all these whataboutists who say “what about black-on-black crime” never bring up “what about white-on-white crime?”

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sagehen  May 17, 2018 • 5:31:59am

re: #64 Targetpractice

It’s one of those things that makes me so amused by guys like Matt, they pine for the very thing they sneer and deride in “less-civilized” cultures: The idea of arranged marriages and treating sex as a commodity. They will point to Muslim-majority countries and declare America “better” because women can receive an education, but secretly they rage that such education in the West involves topics other than homemaking and pleasing a man. They want a return to a time when an education was viewed as “wasted” on a woman, that she was just going to “end up” pregnant and then her future would be spent raising children and tending the home.

When my mother started law school in 1952, there were exactly 3 women in the entire first year. One of her professors spent time at the beginning of each and every class berating her and the other 2 for taking up space that should have gone to a man who’d have a family to support. He found it unconscionable that those places were wasted on women who’d just end up getting married and not even practicing law ever. Another of her professors announced that he wouldn’t be calling on any of the women during class discussions, and he’d mark down any men who included those women in their study groups (“they’ll distract you, and your work will suffer for it”).

In 1970, when she’d been in practice for years and was named partner at her firm… she still couldn’t have a bank account or apply for a credit card without dad’s signature.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 5:32:59am

re: #88 Anymouse 🌹

Notice how all these whataboutists who say “what about black-on-black crime” never bring up “what about white-on-white crime?”

Yep. Bigoted pricks.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 5:33:45am

re: #88 Anymouse 🌹

Notice how all these whataboutists who say “what about black-on-black crime” never bring up “what about white-on-white crime?”

Same people who do not care that most victims of Islamic terrorism are other Muslims.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 5:35:04am

re: #89 sagehen

When my mother started law school in 1952, there were exactly 3 women in the entire first year. One of her professors spent time at the beginning of each and every class berating her and the other 2 for taking up space that should have gone to a man who’d have a family to support. He found it unconscionable that those places were wasted on women who’d just end up getting married and not even practicing law ever. Another of her professors announced that he wouldn’t be calling on any of the women during class discussions, and he’d mark down any men who included those women in their study groups (“they’ll distract you, and your work will suffer for it”).

In 1970, when she’d been in practice for years and was named partner at her firm… she still couldn’t have a bank account or apply for a credit card without dad’s signature.

Plus one for your mother being a pioneer. I can’t imagine that. I’ve never felt taken less seriously by authority for being a white male and I guess that’s privilege defined.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 5:35:16am

re: #89 sagehen

When my mother started law school in 1952, there were exactly 3 women in the entire first year. One of her professors spent time at the beginning of each and every class berating her and the other 2 for taking up space that should have gone to a man who’d have a family to support. He found it unconscionable that those places were wasted on women who’d just end up getting married and not even practicing law ever.

Germany also had a law until 1959 that single women had to give up teaching or civil service positions to married men who had families, even if they had less seniority.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 5:36:15am

re: #90 HappyWarrior

Yep. Bigoted pricks.

Or when they bring up the murder rate in Chicago, they never bring up the murder rate in Alaska or Wyoming (way higher)?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 5:39:52am

re: #94 Anymouse 🌹

Or when they bring up the murder rate in Chicago, they never bring up the murder rate in Alaska or Wyoming (way higher)?

or the fact that neighboring Indiana has some of the most lax gun laws in the nation…

Gary, Indiana, btw had the highest murder rate in the nation when I lived there, over 50 murders per year for a population of around 150,000

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Feline Fearless Leader  May 17, 2018 • 5:40:28am

re: #89 sagehen

When my mother started law school in 1952, there were exactly 3 women in the entire first year. One of her professors spent time at the beginning of each and every class berating her and the other 2 for taking up space that should have gone to a man who’d have a family to support. He found it unconscionable that those places were wasted on women who’d just end up getting married and not even practicing law ever. Another of her professors announced that he wouldn’t be calling on any of the women during class discussions, and he’d mark down any men who included those women in their study groups (“they’ll distract you, and your work will suffer for it”).

In 1970, when she’d been in practice for years and was named partner at her firm… she still couldn’t have a bank account or apply for a credit card without dad’s signature.

The daughter of one of our neighbors was one of the first women to be accepted at West Point. Not in the first class with women, but the 2nd or 3rd I think. And there was a lot of conservative handwringing when that started happening. Something about “diluting our precious military fluids” or similar I think.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 17, 2018 • 5:40:37am

I applied for my first credit card in the early 1970’s when I had my first job; the bank declined my application because they claimed I had insufficient financial history. That initially seemed plausible until a male colleague, who was earning less and had even less history, was able to get a card from the same bank. It turned out the bank interpreted my position as a starting actuary as being a clerk; after all, women weren’t supposed to have actuarial careers!

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 5:42:34am

re: #94 Anymouse 🌹

Or when they bring up the murder rate in Chicago, they never bring up the murder rate in Alaska or Wyoming (way higher)?

Exactly.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 5:43:01am

On the financial data leaked about Mr. Cohen over the concern about the three missing Special Activity Reports (the banking reports indicating unusual transactions), the Treasury Department has launched an investigation.

Over the leaks, not the missing reports.

huffingtonpost.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 5:43:23am

re: #97 Hecuba’s daughter

I applied for my first credit card in the early 1970’s when I had my first job; the bank declined my application because they claimed I had insufficient financial history. That initially seemed plausible until a male colleague, who was earning less and had even less history, was able to get a card from the same bank. It turned out the bank interpreted my position as a starting actuary as being a clerk; after all, women weren’t supposed to have actuarial careers!

that had changed by the 80’s. I got a form inviting me to apply for a visa, mostly as a joke I filled it out, noted occupation as “musician” and a monthly income of $800 (and that was only in a good month) and they sent me a credit card with a $400 line of credit.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 5:43:35am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

or the fact that neighboring Indiana has some of the most lax gun laws in the nation…

Gary, Indiana, btw had the highest murder rate in the nation when I lived there, over 50 murders per year for a population of around 150,000

Right. They bring up Chicago’s crime stats to discredit gun control but ignore Indiana’s proximity to the city.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 5:44:38am

re: #99 Anymouse 🌹

On the financial data leaked about Mr. Cohen over the concern about the three missing Special Activity Reports (the banking reports indicating unusual transactions), the Treasury Department has launched an investigation.

Over the leaks, not the missing reports.

huffingtonpost.com

…again reminded of the Soviet-era joke about the fellow who got ten years in Siberia for calling Chairman Brezhnev an idiot: one year for insulting Soviet authorities and nine years for revealing a state secret.

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Mike Lamb  May 17, 2018 • 5:44:49am

re: #54 Kragar

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One could argue that we’ve never actually had a true sexual revolution because idiots like this engage in shaming; block access to effective contraception; refuse to permit proper sex education; and generally deride anything relating promoting reproductive health. His entire list of terribles is a direct result of the poisonous effects of conservative views on sex.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 5:50:41am

re: #103 Mike Lamb

One could argue that we’ve never actually had a true sexual revolution because idiots like this engage in shaming; block access to effective contraception; refuse to permit proper sex education; and generally deride anything relating promoting reproductive health. His entire list of terribles is a direct result of the poisonous effects of conservative views on sex.

I again stress that the Sexual Revolution is still going on. I can recall in my own lifetime how attitudes started to change (my older brother knocked up his girlfriend in 1963 and had to marry her) but that the old attitudes still prevail in odd forms.

I recall my office mate, Ken Weaver (formerly of the Fugs, we TA’d and studied Russian together at University of Arizona in Tucson) telling me that in his high school days, there were women that you dated and later married but did not fuck and other women that you fucked but did not date and would never think of marrying.

We still see traces of that dichotomy in the way that we deal with the issue of date and acquaintance rape.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 17, 2018 • 5:53:45am

re: #74 freetoken

Ok, I listened to about 4 minutes of that …. thing. His entire premise starts off horribly.

As a giant fan of the Antarctic exploration, I’ve read a shit-ton about the history of the race to reach the South Pole. Scott, Amundsen, and the other south pole explorers started on wooden sailing ships and, for Scott (because he was British and a moron (not all Brits are morons, they just think that man-power was the way to go and didn’t trust flat sticks)) on foot; Amundsen (because he was Scandahoovian and not a moron) on skis and dog sleds, raced for the first to reach the pole. Amundsen won; because, not dumb.

Hillary was a piker in comparison. He did do the first South Pole on a snow cat and speed, I think. But, WGIAF? Ok, Hillary was a great explorer, but not in the South Pole first reached kinda way.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 5:55:12am

re: #105 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Hillary was a great explorer, but not in the South Pole first reached kinda way.

And what about her e-mails?

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Anymouse 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 5:56:01am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

or the fact that neighboring Indiana has some of the most lax gun laws in the nation…

Gary, Indiana, btw had the highest murder rate in the nation when I lived there, over 50 murders per year for a population of around 150,000

Well, with the fallacy of small numbers, the village of Angora, Nebraska had the highest murder rate a couple years ago.

Population 1, 1 person was killed (not the person who lived in Angora). The murderer was from Bridgeport and the victim was from Greeley, Colorado, they were drug dealers. Apparently the murderer brought him to Angora thirteen miles north to kill him and use his girlfriend’s car (she lived near there).

After killing him, he stuffed the victim in a barrel, ripped out the passenger seat, and drove him to the North Platte. He dumped the barrel in the river, which a rancher found later (and called the Bayard Police and county sheriff). The murderer returned to Angora and torched the car (meaning Angora had one of the highest arson rates in the nation as well).

The murderer was found in Cheyenne, when he was pulled over for speeding. Wyoming said “oh hell no, we don’t want this guy” and sent him back to my county. The county prosecutor had to call in help because there had never been a murder in this county prosecuted before.

Jury finds Zachary Mueller guilty of first-degree murder in shooting (goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald, the article about the 2017 conviction and details of the murder - our county prosecutor called in a different prosecutor to try the case)

This was a really odd case for this area.

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William Lewis  May 17, 2018 • 5:57:27am

re: #89 sagehen

May we all give to her the honor she deserves.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 5:57:55am

re: #97 Hecuba’s daughter

I applied for my first credit card in the early 1970’s when I had my first job; the bank declined my application because they claimed I had insufficient financial history. That initially seemed plausible until a male colleague, who was earning less and had even less history, was able to get a card from the same bank. It turned out the bank interpreted my position as a starting actuary as being a clerk; after all, women weren’t supposed to have actuarial careers!

I was unable to get a credit card when I was in the Navy during my first enlistment of six years as a male (credit card companies routinely discriminated against enlisted military personnel). When I married my unemployed college-educated wife who had a credit card (because college), they let her put me on her card.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 6:00:13am

re: #108 William Lewis

May we all give to her the honor she deserves.

Skol. (Sun’s up, that means it’s rum o’clock for me before I go to bed, so a toast.)

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MsJ  May 17, 2018 • 6:03:37am

Well this is kinda a big deal.

Trump is such a lying scumbag.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 6:07:36am

re: #111 MsJ

Well this is kinda a big deal.

Trump is such a lying scumbag.

This is a clear-cut case of conflict of interest. But we lack the political will to prosecute him for it as long as the GOP controls Congress.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 17, 2018 • 6:07:39am

Truth

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MsJ  May 17, 2018 • 6:09:02am

re: #113 Unshaken Defiance

Truth

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Profiles in cowardice. Say something now? Piss the fuck off.

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makeitstop  May 17, 2018 • 6:13:12am
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Belafon  May 17, 2018 • 6:13:40am

re: #114 MsJ

Profiles in cowardice. Say something now? Piss the fuck off.

Rex isn’t a bad buy. He was just willing to sell his soul to increase his Exxon pension. //

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MsJ  May 17, 2018 • 6:15:42am
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freetoken  May 17, 2018 • 6:17:47am

re: #111 MsJ

I looked quickly over the first and second links, and I guess I’m not getting the conflict.

The “to” date on the 2017 ownership ends in January 2017, when he took office.

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William Lewis  May 17, 2018 • 6:18:06am

re: #113 Unshaken Defiance

Truth

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Better late than never? SMH

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freetoken  May 17, 2018 • 6:20:25am

re: #118 freetoken

I see in “section 7” some purchases and transactions after Jan 2017. Are these the ones that are the problem?

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Unshaken Defiance  May 17, 2018 • 6:20:50am

re: #117 MsJ

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freetoken  May 17, 2018 • 6:21:52am

re: #120 freetoken

On those transactions in section 7, they are noted with

”* J.P. Morgan is the sole Trustee. Donald J. Trump retains an income interest only in the Family Trusts and has no investment decision authority. “

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Belafon  May 17, 2018 • 6:30:27am

re: #111 MsJ

Well this is kinda a big deal.

Trump is such a lying scumbag.

The article is from late 2016, though I would still be interested in proof.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 6:32:02am

re: #121 Unshaken Defiance

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I sure wish that the Marmalade Shitcannon didn’t block me.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 17, 2018 • 6:33:06am

Well well. The package bomb maker from yesterdays deadly bomb in Aliso Viejo was a very white guy, apparently killed his ex girlfriend with it.
Link to a report from yesterday

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 6:39:30am

re: #113 Unshaken Defiance

“If our leaders seek to conceal the truth, or we as people become accepting of alternative realities that are no longer grounded in facts, then we as American citizens are on a pathway to relinquishing our freedom.” Rex Tillerson

Those of us in possession of a Higher Truth are not bound by mere objective facts.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 17, 2018 • 6:41:37am
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The Vicious Babushka  May 17, 2018 • 6:47:29am
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MsJ  May 17, 2018 • 6:48:22am

re: #120 freetoken

I see in “section 7” some purchases and transactions after Jan 2017. Are these the ones that are the problem?

Considering that one trump tweet can and has drastically altered the price of stock for companies, that he had any stocks owned or traded is a huge big deal.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 6:51:54am

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Anymouse 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 6:52:45am

re: #129 MsJ

Considering that one trump tweet can and has drastically altered the price of stock for companies, that he had any stocks owned or traded is a huge big deal.

For the Libertarian dudebros at Twitter who refuse to suspend his account for violations of terms of service (most notably hate speech and personal attacks, because profit), this could entangle Twitter and it’s owner Jack Dorsey in a conspiracy to manipulate the stock market scheme.

Considering the number of Nazis and Klansmen overrunning Twitter, along with foreign influencers on our electorate, perhaps shutting down Twitter and jailing Dorsey would be a public service.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 17, 2018 • 6:54:12am

re: #38 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Speaking of old British Sci-Fi TV—I can’t believe they threw away the kinescopes of A for Andromeda.

There are a few fragments on YouTube, but it was Julie Christie’s first part—you’d think they’d hang onto them for that reason alone.

(Yes, I know there was a remake.)

2 remakes. One was not in English.

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MsJ  May 17, 2018 • 6:56:38am

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹

For the Libertarian dudebros at Twitter who refuse to suspend his account for violations of terms of service (most notably hate speech and personal attacks, because profit), this could entangle Twitter and it’s owner Jack Dorsey in a conspiracy to manipulate the stock market scheme.

Considering the number of Nazis and Klansmen overrunning Twitter, along with foreign influencers on our electorate, perhaps shutting down Twitter and jailing Dorsey would be a public service.

Facebook first.

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ObserverArt  May 17, 2018 • 6:57:05am

re: #111 MsJ

Well this is kinda a big deal.

Trump is such a lying scumbag.

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Morning!

I’ve learned to not pay attention to anything that follows “Donald Trump Said”

There is no use. A lesson all America needs to learn, especially members of the media.

Another thing, mentioning “Chicago” when talking about murder rates is an involuntary response by anyone that is a racist or gun nut. It’s like breathing. Even though it could be considered learned, once it takes then it just comes out without any thought.

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makeitstop  May 17, 2018 • 6:58:58am

re: #129 MsJ

Considering that one trump tweet can and has drastically altered the price of stock for companies, that he had any stocks owned or traded is a huge big deal.

There were a lot of tweets early on that looked like he was trying to mess with the markets.

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William Lewis  May 17, 2018 • 6:59:40am

British SF … ah, that was the fun stuff compared to the dreck (Buck Rodgers anyone?) on American TV.

Anyone else here who loved Blake’s 7?

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ObserverArt  May 17, 2018 • 7:01:33am

re: #113 Unshaken Defiance

Truth

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Yes, the statement is true.

The deliverer though has no standing to make it.

Tillerson Comes Under Fire For Lack of Media Access

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 17, 2018 • 7:05:37am
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lawhawk  May 17, 2018 • 7:08:25am

re: #4 wheat-dogg

Speaking of CL, I wondering if anyone else noticed the timing of the Jerusalem embassy “opening” — literally the day before the start of Ramadan.

The cynic in me suggests the timing was not accidental.

It was timed with the 70th anniversary of the creation of the state of Israel, which happens to also coincide with Ramadan this year.

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MsJ  May 17, 2018 • 7:08:34am

I hate these people with every fiber of my being.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 17, 2018 • 7:10:45am

re: #136 William Lewis

British SF … ah, that was the fun stuff compared to the dreck (Buck Rodgers anyone?) on American TV.

Anyone else here who loved Blake’s 7?

Buck Rogers starred Erin Grey, therefore it was excellent.

I’m currently rewatching B7.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 7:11:18am

re: #140 MsJ

I hate these people with every fiber of my being.

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I do too.

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Dizzy  May 17, 2018 • 7:12:07am

This thread itemizes the Trump-Russia developments that happened yesterday. It’s a frigging YEARS worth of news:

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 7:14:04am

re: #136 William Lewis

British SF … ah, that was the fun stuff compared to the dreck (Buck Rodgers anyone?) on American TV.

Anyone else here who loved Blake’s 7?

The last episode had the most downbeat ending I ever saw in any series.

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MsJ  May 17, 2018 • 7:15:24am

This.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 7:15:28am

re: #130 Joe Bacon 🌹

There is a big difference between coming through Ellis Island and crossing a border illegally.

But it does not justify separating parents from their children (and then losing track of them)…

And the notion of simply brushing those actions of as a “deterrent” is abhorrent and shameful.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 17, 2018 • 7:15:47am

re: #144 Joe Bacon 🌹

The last episode had the most downbeat ending I ever saw in any series.

“You betrayed us? You betrayed ME?”

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lawhawk  May 17, 2018 • 7:15:51am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. Trump’s shitting roofing nails (can’t take credit for that turn of a phrase) because of the Senate document dump yesterday, so he’s got Rudy going out and spewing nonsense that is easily rebutted by facts and Trump spewing his usual word salad gibberish this morning.

Why?

Because the Senate document dump and news reports from yesterday make the connections between Trumpworld and Russia more tangible and indicate that Trump and his criminal syndicate were working with the Russians to gain critical info to go after Hillary. That they didn’t get the info is entirely besides the point.

It was the act of seeking out the info and meeting with the Russians in furtherance of that goal that is a criminal act.

Everything that followed is a coverup of the criminal act and a conspiracy, including obstruction of justice.

That Mueller is now being attacked daily by Trumpworld shows the desperation on their part. They know that Mueller’s got all these documents and then some. They’re now trying to smear Mueller and Obama by claiming that having an inside source is somehow criminal or illegal - when it’s a common tactic to thwart terror plots or break up the mafia and criminal syndicates.

It’s a lawful investigative tool, and the fact also remains that Trumpworld leaks like a sieve to the point that when Sanders holds a secret briefing about leaks and warns that we would see the details of that meeting leak - we not only get a single source, but 5 sources confirming every aspect of that meeting.

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Belafon  May 17, 2018 • 7:17:23am

re: #143 Dizzy

This thread itemizes the Trump-Russia developments that happened yesterday. It’s a frigging YEARS worth of news:

re: #145 MsJ

This.

And these two things are more proof of why I call this a war. A single day can feel like a year, and you align yourself with people who you wouldn’t go anywhere near any other time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 7:18:25am

re: #140 MsJ

Arizona Republicans passed a law to deny unemployment benefits to anyone who, after four weeks unemployed, refuses a job that offers them $288 per week ($15K per year) - no matter how much they made before, how risky the job is or how experienced they are.

so the de-facto wage for forced labor is $7.20/hour.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 7:19:04am

re: #145 MsJ

This.

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I don’t trust any of the so-called “Never Trumpers” because they still adhere to the RepubliKKKlan philosophy that the sole power of government is to preserve and increase the wealth and power of the rich at the expense of everyone else.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 7:20:15am

re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

so the de-facto wage for forced labor is $7.20/hour.

I doubt that would cover the rent of a bunk at a YMCA…

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lawhawk  May 17, 2018 • 7:22:41am

Yet another reason Pruitt should be sacked. Mattis too. They’re all for enabling this kind of crap on a daily basis, and they’re more interested in spinning out of trouble than they are of fixing the problem and protecting the troops.

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Sir John Barron  May 17, 2018 • 7:23:00am

re: #152 Joe Bacon 🌹

I doubt that would cover the rent of a bunk at a YMCA…

“Are there no workhouses?”!??!?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 7:24:15am

re: #153 lawhawk

Emails show the Trump admin trying to manage a potentially damaging report on a class of chemicals found to have polluted water supplies near U.S. military installations, worrying it could be a “public relations nightmare.”

not worried about the leaking chemicals, just the leaking information

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makeitstop  May 17, 2018 • 7:24:41am

It looks like it’s gonna get noisy outside that bigot lawyer’s office tomorrow…

Facebook Post

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lawhawk  May 17, 2018 • 7:27:21am

I’m sure people saw this nonsense yesterday. A young woman decided to go to graduation with a AR-15 slung on her shoulder.

And yeah, it’s dumbassery. Having that gun doesn’t make her any safer. It’s slung on her shoulder and is an accessory just like a handbag. In the time it would take for her to get it into a firing position, she’d likely be dead or injured because the bad guy will have already gotten the drop on her. As she fumbles for the safety and tries to get the gun up and facing the bad guy, the bad guy will have gotten off rounds.

It’s just more fantasyland nonsense that the NRA spews that a good guy with a gun will stop a bad guy or that the armed population is a safer population.

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Sir John Barron  May 17, 2018 • 7:29:13am

re: #157 lawhawk

I have no apologies for my graduation photos. As a woman, I refuse to be a victim & the second amendment ensures that I don’t have to be. pic.twitter.com

— Kaitlin Marie

Graduation ceremonies and photo stagings are notoriously dangerous places.

//

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Belafon  May 17, 2018 • 7:29:39am

re: #157 lawhawk

There are times when I want someone to show them how useful an AR-15 slung over a shoulder really is.

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Weaselone  May 17, 2018 • 7:31:38am

re: #157 lawhawk

Just out of curiosity, how exactly do I differentiate between her(a good guy with a gun) and some other random white lunatic there to shoot things up? I just have to wait and see whether she empties a magazine into the crowd?

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ObserverArt  May 17, 2018 • 7:32:11am

re: #30 BeachDem

Putney Swope.

Ha! I have not seen a reference to that movie since forever. I’m glad I went back through the thread to see your comment.

I always got a kick out of watching it as it is not only such a good view of the advertising business, it is also a great take on the late 60s. In a way it may have been one of the first films of the Blaxploitation genre.

It was written and directed by Robert Downey Sr.

And, since it is a little out of the mainstream and lost in time the full version is available on YouTube.

I always could relate to the photographer. Check it out if you want a fun laugh from the wayback machine,

Putney Swope (1969) - Dir.: Robert Downey, Sr. - 480p

And for a taste…here is the first bit in the movie with Mark Focus…the photographer. Any freelance artist/photographer can relate.

Mark Focus Presents his work to Putney Swope

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ipsos  May 17, 2018 • 7:34:22am

re: #157 lawhawk

I’m sure people saw this nonsense yesterday. A young woman decided to go to graduation with a AR-15 slung on her shoulder.

AT. KENT. FUCKING. STATE.

We’re finally on our own.

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MsJ  May 17, 2018 • 7:36:23am

Uhm…ok.

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Teukka  May 17, 2018 • 7:37:19am

re: #163 MsJ

Uhm…ok.

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*blink* *blink* *blink* *blink* *disbelief*

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ObserverArt  May 17, 2018 • 7:37:24am

re: #157 lawhawk

I’m sure people saw this nonsense yesterday. A young woman decided to go to graduation with a AR-15 slung on her shoulder.

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And yeah, it’s dumbassery. Having that gun doesn’t make her any safer. It’s slung on her shoulder and is an accessory just like a handbag. In the time it would take for her to get it into a firing position, she’d likely be dead or injured because the bad guy will have already gotten the drop on her. As she fumbles for the safety and tries to get the gun up and facing the bad guy, the bad guy will have gotten off rounds.

It’s just more fantasyland nonsense that the NRA spews that a good guy with a gun will stop a bad guy or that the armed population is a safer population.

Yeah, great look there at Kent State.

Sheesh. Does this show the big gap in America from May 4, 1970 to May 2018???

I don’t use this phrase…but in this case…I can’t even!

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austin_blue  May 17, 2018 • 7:37:29am

re: #162 ipsos

AT. KENT. FUCKING. STATE.

We’re finally on our own.

In our crazed Gun Culture, it’s Four Dead In O-hi-o

Every. Damned. Day.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 17, 2018 • 7:38:51am

re: #157 lawhawk

I’m sure people saw this nonsense yesterday. A young woman decided to go to graduation with a AR-15 slung on her shoulder.

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And yeah, it’s dumbassery. Having that gun doesn’t make her any safer. It’s slung on her shoulder and is an accessory just like a handbag. In the time it would take for her to get it into a firing position, she’d likely be dead or injured because the bad guy will have already gotten the drop on her. As she fumbles for the safety and tries to get the gun up and facing the bad guy, the bad guy will have gotten off rounds.

It’s just more fantasyland nonsense that the NRA spews that a good guy with a gun will stop a bad guy or that the armed population is a safer population.

As I always tell people: Even if you carry a gun in firing position, with the safety off and your finger on the trigger, you can’t look everywhere at once and you can’t read minds. Anyone who’s going to shoot at you by definition knows what they’re going to do before you do, and therefore will always have the drop on you. Always.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 7:39:07am

re: #157 lawhawk

I’m sure people saw this nonsense yesterday. A young woman decided to go to graduation with a AR-15 slung on her shoulder.

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And yeah, it’s dumbassery. Having that gun doesn’t make her any safer. It’s slung on her shoulder and is an accessory just like a handbag. In the time it would take for her to get it into a firing position, she’d likely be dead or injured because the bad guy will have already gotten the drop on her. As she fumbles for the safety and tries to get the gun up and facing the bad guy, the bad guy will have gotten off rounds.

It’s just more fantasyland nonsense that the NRA spews that a good guy with a gun will stop a bad guy or that the armed population is a safer population.

She looks like a damned fool.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 7:40:09am

re: #167 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

As I always tell people: Even if you carry a gun in firing position, with the safety off and your finger on the trigger, you can’t look everywhere at once and you can’t read minds. Anyone who’s going to shoot at you by definition knows what they’re going to do before you do, and therefore will always have the drop on you. Always.

Gun nuts really think all you need is a gun and all is well.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 17, 2018 • 7:41:26am

re: #169 HappyWarrior

Gun nuts really think all you need is a gun and all is well.

Well then, carry a blankey. That’s all it is.

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lawhawk  May 17, 2018 • 7:43:12am

re: #160 Weaselone

Just out of curiosity, how exactly do I differentiate between her(a good guy with a gun) and some other random white lunatic there to shoot things up? I just have to wait and see whether she empties a magazine into the crowd?

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 7:44:35am

re: #171 lawhawk

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Exactly. And let me be honest, seeing someone with an AR-15 while I’m chowing down on breakfast or attending a graduation gives me no comfort at all.

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KGxvi  May 17, 2018 • 7:46:44am

re: #25 wheat-dogg

The media were caught violating the prime rule of journalism: assume nothing. Reporters are supposed to question *everything* doublecheck *everything*. Ditto their editors. Yet, most of them assumed that HRC would win and DJT would lose, and planned their coverage of same accordingly. Trouble is, once Trump won, they did not revise their coverage much. Clinton was still flawed, Trump was still the dark horse ready to turn Washington upside down.

The thing is, we also forget how close the media (answer everyone else) was to being right. Less than 100,000 spread across three states that Clinton had no business losing. Those swing the other way and she wins by more than three million votes and he could conversations is about a death rattle of nationalism and that racism doesn’t work in american politics anymore (a trip least at the National level)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 17, 2018 • 7:54:30am

re: #173 KGxvi

The thing is, we also forget how close the media (answer everyone else) was to being right. Less than 100,000 spread across three states that Clinton had no business losing. Those swing the other way and she wins by more than three million votes and he could conversations is about a death rattle of nationalism and that racism doesn’t work in american politics anymore (a trip least at the National level)

I always go back to 2004. Only the election fraud in Ohio (that freaked Karl Rove out when it didn’t work in 2012) prevented Kerry from winning an Electoral College victory while losing the Popular Vote by 3,000,000—exactly like tRump. Does anybody think that would have been allowed to stand?

Dubya’s fixers were expecting that to happen in 2000 and were all set to hit the ground running to turn it back—they were caught flat-footed when it turned out the other way around. The Electoral College bullshit will only ever work for Republicans. You can take that to the bank.

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MsJ  May 17, 2018 • 7:56:18am

And, of course, there’s a reply. 😂🤣😂

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 8:00:00am

re: #157 lawhawk

I’m sure people saw this nonsense yesterday. A young woman decided to go to graduation with a AR-15 slung on her shoulder.

Where is her well-regulated militia?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 17, 2018 • 8:00:54am

re: #175 MsJ

And, of course, there’s a reply. 😂🤣😂

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I just about went crazy reading the first one. I’ve got a real thing about even tiny shards of eggshell in omelettes or whatever—the thought of crunching a hard-boiled egg whole gives me the fantods….

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 17, 2018 • 8:05:55am

re: #163 MsJ

Hard boiled eggs are disgusting even without the shells. Yick, blech, gag.

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ObserverArt  May 17, 2018 • 8:06:39am

re: #177 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I just about went crazy reading the first one. I’ve got a real thing about even tiny shards of eggshell in omelettes or whatever—the thought of crunching a hard-boiled egg whole gives me the fantods….

Ohhh…a new word to learn. Fantod.

Never saw that one before. Thanks.

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JordanRules  May 17, 2018 • 8:08:48am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 17, 2018 • 8:09:01am

re: #179 ObserverArt

Ohhh…a new word to learn. Fantod.

Never saw that one before. Thanks.

It’s “the fantods”—like “the heebie-jeebies”. I learned it from Mark Twain—Huck Finn used it a lot.

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ObserverArt  May 17, 2018 • 8:12:16am

re: #181 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s “the fantods”—like “the heebie-jeebies” I learned it from Mark Twain—Huck Finn used it a lot.

It was in Huck Finn? Must have not taken when I read it. Or, I took it as a casual word in that book and not serious.

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MsJ  May 17, 2018 • 8:15:18am

re: #178 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Hard boiled eggs are disgusting even without the shells. Yick, blech, gag.

I’ll not share with you what I ate for breakfast then.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 8:15:56am

re: #178 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Hard boiled eggs are disgusting even without the shells. Yick, blech, gag.

I know many who think that. They have to be very fresh eggs, but not fresh laid (I know because we used to keep chickens)or the membrane is still attached to the shell and they do not peel properly.

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JordanRules  May 17, 2018 • 8:20:28am

No Lindsey. Please just stop.

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wheat-dogg  May 17, 2018 • 8:21:15am

re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I know many who think that. They have to be very fresh eggs, but not fresh laid (I know because we used to keep chickens)or the membrane is still attached to the shell and they do not peel properly.

It also depends on the cooking method. Overboiled eggs get a sulfurous flavor and aroma. Underboiled eggs put people off because of the runny yolk.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 8:21:39am

re: #185 JordanRules

I’m here to tell North Korea that our president has drawn a red line.

If you keep threatening the American homeland with a nuclear weapon we’re going to destroy your regime.

It’s that simple.

He can bluster as well as any Korean dictator!

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 17, 2018 • 8:22:03am

re: #185 JordanRules

No Lindsey. Please just stop.

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This country has gone insane.

And now accepting the other half of the Nobel Prize is this pile of ash….

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 17, 2018 • 8:22:16am

re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I know many who think that. They have to be very fresh eggs, but not fresh laid (I know because we used to keep chickens)or the membrane is still attached to the shell and they do not peel properly.

I learned from Jacques Pépin how to boil an egg—after years of suffering trying to peel them. You boil the water first, take a push-pin and make a hole in the air pocket at the big end, dump the eggs in the boiling water, bring it back to the boil, then turn it down to simmer. The water works its way under the membrane and makes them easy to peel.

The only spanner in the works is the mutant chickens they’ve got nowadays that lay eggs with two big ends or two small ends….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 8:22:37am

re: #186 wheat-dogg

It also depends on the cooking method. Overboiled eggs get a sulfurous flavor and aroma. Underboiled eggs put people off because of the runny yolk.

I like them soft-boiled. It is the standard breakfast egg in central Europe. For that, they do not understand the concept of “over easy”.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 17, 2018 • 8:27:50am

re: #186 wheat-dogg

It also depends on the cooking method. Overboiled eggs get a sulfurous flavor and aroma. Underboiled eggs put people off because of the runny yolk.

which is perfect in a bibim bowl.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 8:30:11am

re: #189 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I learned from Jacques Pépin how to boil an egg—after years of suffering trying to peel them. You boil the water first, take a push-pin and make a hole in the air pocket at the big end, dump the eggs in the boiling water, bring it back to the boil, then turn it down to simmer. The water works it’s way under the membrane and makes them easy to peel.

Other trick is to hit them with cold water to cool off the shell and separate the membrane

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Hecuba's daughter  May 17, 2018 • 8:32:01am

re: #136 William Lewis

British SF … ah, that was the fun stuff compared to the dreck (Buck Rodgers anyone?) on American TV.

Anyone else here who loved Blake’s 7?

Oh yes!! What a totally nihilistic ending! And same for Forever Knight, another favorite of mine.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 17, 2018 • 8:34:02am

Good Morning!!!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 17, 2018 • 8:34:54am
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A Mom Anon  May 17, 2018 • 8:35:10am

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

I love this more than anything this morning!

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William Lewis  May 17, 2018 • 8:38:56am

re: #157 lawhawk

I’m sure people saw this nonsense yesterday. A young woman decided to go to graduation with a AR-15 slung on her shoulder.

[Embedded content]

And yeah, it’s dumbassery. Having that gun doesn’t make her any safer. It’s slung on her shoulder and is an accessory just like a handbag. In the time it would take for her to get it into a firing position, she’d likely be dead or injured because the bad guy will have already gotten the drop on her. As she fumbles for the safety and tries to get the gun up and facing the bad guy, the bad guy will have gotten off rounds.

It’s just more fantasyland nonsense that the NRA spews that a good guy with a gun will stop a bad guy or that the armed population is a safer population.

As I said the other day when I first saw a photo of her, 5 seconds with a knife from behind and she’d be dead and the knife wielder would have a semi-automatic rifle.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 8:42:01am

re: #185 JordanRules

No Lindsey. Please just stop.

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Stop agitating for war damnit.

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ObserverArt  May 17, 2018 • 8:42:33am

Interesting. About a half hour ago I received a text message from the Ohio Democratic party about a hot FBI investigation into some nasty Ohio GOP contributions from the operators of the now defunct ECOT charter school.

ECOT closed back in January of this year and hung a whole bunch of students and parents out to lunch half way through a school year.

Corruption in the Ohio GOP has been real blatant under Ohio Johnny Kasich. State Rep Wes Goodman ( a Jim Jordan buddy and Family Values Conservative Christian) resigned quickly due to some sexual improprieties in his office.

That was just after Veteran Ohio Sen. Clifford Hite, a Republican from Findlay, resigned Oct. 16 after a sexual harassment complaint was filed against him.

In April of this year Ohio House Speaker Cliff Rosenberger resigned his office a when the FBI opened an investigation into his lavish spending on housing and travel during his time in office.

Just more dirty Republicans. Hopefully all of this will clean out our State House and put paid to the career of John Kasich.

Here is the latest scandal from the test message.

Medium - “Chartergate” Scandal Prompts FBI Investigation

“Chartergate” Scandal Prompts FBI Investigation
Ohio Republicans are rushing to give away tainted campaign cash. Here’s why.

The Chartergate scandal is roiling Columbus. Here’s what you need to know: Millions in tax dollars were wasted, Ohio kids were hurt and now there’s a criminal investigation into just how deep it goes. And all of this happened on the Ohio GOP’s watch.

Just hours before the Columbus Dispatch reported the FBI was looking into potentially illegal donations connected to Bill Lager (founder of the now-defunct “ECOT,” or Electronic Classroom of Tomorrow), Ohio Republicans on the 2018 ticket scrambled to offload hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign cash they took from donors linked to ECOT.

On the heels of the Cliff Rosenberger payday lending debacle, this is now the second Ohio Republican scandal that the FBI is investigating, and the Republican politicians who enabled this scam are now desperately trying to cover their tracks.

How did we get here?

The History of “Chartergate” — A Culture of Corruption

Nearly 20 years ago, a man named Bill Lager (now a multi-millionaire) founded ECOT. He worked up quite a scheme — a fully online school that would siphon $1 billion from our public schools based on one determining factor: how many kids he could enroll.

The catch? ECOT claimed they didn’t have to track how often their students were logged on, whether they were completing their lessons or whether they were learning anything (while still collecting fat checks from Ohio taxpayers).

Over the course of 15 years, ECOT took in more than $1 billion from Ohio taxpayers while showering Ohio Republican leaders with more than $2 million in political contributions.

Bottom line: it looks like they cooked the books — and wrote big campaign checks to the Ohio Republicans that were supposed to oversee them. Over the course of 15 years, ECOT took in more than $1 billion from Ohio taxpayers while showering Ohio Republican candidates and organizations with more than $2 million in political contributions.

Republican politicians like Dave Yost, Keith Faber and Frank LaRose accepted tons of political contributions from ECOT-linked donors, while failing to hold the corrupt e-charter accountable, instead treating the taxpayer-funded program like an ATM for the Ohio Republican Party.

The Ohio Democratic Party has long been concerned about Republican oversight (or lack thereof) of the for-profit charter school system in Ohio. We first called for an independent investigation into how Gov. John Kasich’s charter-school czar allegedly rigged evaluations for e-charters like ECOT all the way back in 2015.

It hasn’t gotten any better in the intervening years. ECOT finally had to close down earlier this year, after the state found the e-charter owed at least $80 million for students it claimed were enrolled, but couldn’t be verified. Now they’re auctioning off the school’s office building and its contents.

It keeps getting worse. Last month the Associated Press revealed a whistleblower’s allegations of data-rigging at ECOT. Then accusations emerged that the whistleblower was offered “hush money” to stay silent about what he saw while working at ECOT.

These revelations made the ECOT scandal — ”Chartergate” — potentially criminal. And it’s making headlines across Ohio.

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Ace-o-aces  May 17, 2018 • 8:42:35am
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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 8:43:27am

re: #195 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Fucking ICE

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ObserverArt  May 17, 2018 • 8:45:58am

re: #185 JordanRules

No Lindsey. Please just stop.

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Remember when Graham was considered a sane moderate Republican?

Though I never bought that crap, even that cover seems to have been removed. He’s now one of the worst.

Sure would be nice to know what illegal activities in the background turned him into a raging asshole.

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Teukka  May 17, 2018 • 8:47:20am

re: #195 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Not to be overly alarmist or pessimistic, but do you know what was initially called “deportation” and “relocation”, but then got turned into something else entirely because it was far cheaper than relocating or deporting anyone?

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ObserverArt  May 17, 2018 • 8:48:39am

re: #190 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I like them soft-boiled. It is the standard breakfast egg in central Europe. For that, they do not understand the concept of “over easy”.

I used to like poached eggs back as a kid. My father loved to make them. Pop a finished one out onto a piece of toast. I haven’t done that in eons. Do people still poach eggs or is that a lost method?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 8:49:02am

re: #202 ObserverArt

Remember when Graham was considered a sane moderate Republican?

Nope.

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Belafon  May 17, 2018 • 8:49:20am

re: #195 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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A simple solution, that I bet could get more than a few Republicans on board, would be to require ICE to have a warrant before they can arrest someone.

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Belafon  May 17, 2018 • 8:50:20am

re: #202 ObserverArt

Remember when Graham was considered a sane moderate Republican?

Though I never bought that crap, even that cover seems to have been removed. He’s now one of the worst.

Sure would be nice to know what illegal activities in the background turned him into a raging asshole.

Since I’ve known about Graham, he seems to be the embodiment of “Whatever I have to do to stay in office.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 17, 2018 • 8:50:33am

re: #195 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Fire everyone who tried to destroy that kid.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 8:52:01am

re: #204 ObserverArt

I used to like poached eggs back as a kid. My father loved to make them. Pop a finished one out onto a piece of toast. I haven’t done that in eons. Do people still poach eggs or is that a lost method?

girlfriend had an egg poaching pan: it had four recesses in the top that sat on boiling water. we almost never used it as such, though…

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 17, 2018 • 8:53:22am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

girlfriend had an egg poaching pan: it had four recesses in the top that sat on boiling water. we almost never used it as such, though…

Mom used to poach eggs. She tried to show me how, but every time I tried it myself I ended up with a hardboiled yolk in a pan of flavorless egg drop soup.

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I cannot.  May 17, 2018 • 8:54:39am

re: #208 Joe Bacon 🌹

Fire all of ICE, ban them from working in any law enforcement job forever, and arrest those guys.

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I cannot.  May 17, 2018 • 8:56:17am

re: #203 Teukka

Oh, you’re not the first person to think that. And you’re not the only person here to be thinking along those lines.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 8:56:26am

re: #211 I cannot.

Fire all of ICE, ban them from working in any law enforcement job forever, and arrest those guys.

that would happen in any country with a humane, civilized government

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JordanRules  May 17, 2018 • 8:57:16am

re: #204 ObserverArt

I used to like poached eggs back as a kid. My father loved to make them. Pop a finished one out onto a piece of toast. I haven’t done that in eons. Do people still poach eggs or is that a lost method?

I do, all the time on eggs benedict. Love poached eggs!

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KGxvi  May 17, 2018 • 8:57:20am

re: #174 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I always go back to 2004. Only the election fraud in Ohio (that freaked Karl Rove out when it didn’t work in 2012) prevented Kerry from winning an Electoral College victory while losing the Popular Vote by 3,000,000—exactly like tRump. Does anybody think that would have been allowed to stand?

Dubya’s fixers were expecting that to happen in 2000 and were all set to hit the ground running to turn it back—they were caught flat-footed when it turned out the other way around. The Electoral College bullshit will only ever work for Republicans. You can take that to the bank.

The electoral college was designed to help the less popular national party. That was the real point of the three fifths compromise. But I think if we had back to back elections where the party with fewer national votes had won the presidency (especially being from different parties), we probably would have seen real change.

A few years back a Supreme Court Justice (I forget which one) made the point in a speech that under any other circumstances the electoral college would be unconstitutional (this of course was spun by wingnuts as “liberal justice says the constitution is unconstitutional”). And the point is true, if a state tried to elect a governor on the same basis the court would throw it out in a heart beat. It really does fly in the face of the concept of one person, one vote.

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Teukka  May 17, 2018 • 8:57:41am

re: #212 I cannot.

Oh, you’re not the first person to think that. And you’re not the only person here to be thinking along those lines.

Oh I know. I just wonder where and when… Or if it’s already happening…

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KGxvi  May 17, 2018 • 8:58:13am

re: #207 Belafon

Since I’ve known about Graham, he seems to be the embodiment of “Whatever I have to do to stay in office.”

There’s a reason Andrew Sullivan used to refer to Graham as Butters (from South Park)

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Hecuba's daughter  May 17, 2018 • 9:00:17am

re: #185 JordanRules

No Lindsey. Please just stop.

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What is it with Lindsey? At one time he seemed to have a grasp on reality. Blackmail? Or drinking the Kool-aid?

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KGxvi  May 17, 2018 • 9:01:51am

re: #202 ObserverArt

Remember when Graham was considered a sane moderate Republican?

Though I never bought that crap, even that cover seems to have been removed. He’s now one of the worst.

Sure would be nice to know what illegal activities in the background turned him into a raging asshole.

Trump (in a very 21st century way of bullying) gave out his cellphone number on national television and Graham had to get a new phone and new number because the crazies decided to constantly blow up his phone

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 9:02:13am

re: #218 Hecuba’s daughter

What is it with Lindsey? At one time he seemed to have a grasp on reality. Blackmail? Or drinking the Kool-aid?

Will Rodgers of war.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 9:02:48am

re: #215 KGxvi

The electoral college was designed to help the less popular national party. That was the real point of the three fifths compromise. But I think if we had back to back elections where the party with fewer national votes had won the presidency (especially being from different parties), we probably would have seen real change.

I would be for keeping the Electoral College, but make it proportional to population and only have it kick in if no candidate gets a clear majority of the popular vote.

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Belafon  May 17, 2018 • 9:03:36am

I thought y’all might enjoy the image attached to this DK diary. It’s a quote that says “I got a ticket for jaywalking. My lawyer, Guiliani, pled it down to 1st Degree Homicide.”

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 9:05:12am

I know I talk about my genealogy w lot but there’s a reason and it’s because I know I too am descended from immigrants. My family too found themselves in a new land facing hostility. I want today’s immigrants to feel welcome. I TBH while I try to be friendly to all go the extra mile with immigrants since there’s too many people who look like me who treat them with disdain.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 9:06:16am

re: #223 HappyWarrior

I know I talk about my genealogy w lot but there’s a reason and it’s because I know I too am descended from immigrants. My family too found themselves in a new land facing hostility. I want today’s immigrants to feel welcome. I TBH while I try to be friendly to all go the extra mile with immigrants since there’s too many people who look like me who treat them with disdain.

my grandparents were all sent here at the turn of the last century to live with relatives by families who could not afford to keep them in Central Europe.

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Belafon  May 17, 2018 • 9:06:33am

Considering the ICE agents lied to the court, the judge should impose some penalties because of that.

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Teukka  May 17, 2018 • 9:07:30am

re: #225 Belafon

Considering the ICE agents lied to the court, the judge should impose some penalties because of that.

Isn’t that perjury proper?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 17, 2018 • 9:08:26am

re: #221 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I would be for keeping the Electoral College, but make it proportional to population and only have it kick in if no candidate gets a clear majority of the popular vote.

Let them go through the motions if they want to—just take away those two unearned Electoral Votes every state has because they have two Senators.

And even out the Congressional Districts. They increased steadily for a couple of centuries—how did 438 become a sacred number that could never be exceeded?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 9:09:53am

re: #227 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Let them go through the motions if they want to—just take away those two unearned Electoral Votes every state has because they have two Senators.

And even out the Congressional Districts. They increased steadily for a couple of centuries—how did 438 become a sacred number that could never be exceeded?

really. Germany has 1/4 of our population but 600 ministers of parliament

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Dr Lizardo  May 17, 2018 • 9:10:20am

re: #208 Joe Bacon 🌹

Fire everyone who tried to destroy that kid.

Like I’ve said before, ICE needs to be completely liquidated as an agency; a new immigration enforcement agency will have to be created to take its place and anyone currently working for ICE - in any capacity whatsoever - must be prohibited from joining that new force.

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Belafon  May 17, 2018 • 9:13:07am

re: #227 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Let them go through the motions if they want to—just take away those two unearned Electoral Votes every state has because they have two Senators.

And even out the Congressional Districts. They increased steadily for a couple of centuries—how did 438 become a sacred number that could never be exceeded?

Because it was the size at the time the amendment was ratified. 438 is a really large number, though. After Bush won in 2000, I played with the number of reps by going back to the original constitutional definition. If you keep the candidates winning their states, increasing the number of electoral votes per state proportionally would not have changed the election.

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ObserverArt  May 17, 2018 • 9:13:32am

re: #210 Blind Frog Belly White

Mom used to poach eggs. She tried to show me how, but every time I tried it myself I ended up with a hardboiled yolk in a pan of flavorless egg drop soup.

An egg poacher pan (like Wendell mentioned) had a tray that held 4 (or however many) tin shallow cups with little grabber tabs in boiling water. You buttered (or oiled) the pans and broke your egg into the cups then after the water got to boiling, you put the cups in place and put the lid on. I think it was for two minutes (?) and you had a nice fluffy white egg in the shape of the little cup with the yolk still runny suspended in the egg white.

Your description doesn’t sound like what I remember. With the egg poacher if you had a solid yolk the egg white part would have been solid and overcooked to rubbery.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 17, 2018 • 9:14:10am

I am openly wondering how many of those ICE has gotten away with. You know this situation was the exception and not the rule.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 9:15:23am

re: #232 Eclectic Cyborg

I am openly wondering how many of those ICE has gotten away with. You know this situation was the exception and not the rule.

Well that’s why we need a majority in the House so we can investigate and get some oversight since it sure as Hell isnt coming as long as the Republicans run Congress.

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Jay C  May 17, 2018 • 9:19:25am

re: #227 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Let them go through the motions if they want to—just take away those two unearned Electoral Votes every state has because they have two Senators.

And even out the Congressional Districts. They increased steadily for a couple of centuries—how did 438 become a sacred number that could never be exceeded?

Via the Apportionment Act of 1911 (based on the 1910 census): Congress set the size of the House at 433 (apportioned out at the then-current population of States): with two extra at-large seats provided for Arizona and New Mexico, when admitted (1912). And there it’s stayed for 106 years.

When Alaska and Hawaii were admitted in 1958 and 1959, they each got an at-large House seat: but after the 1960 census, the House was re-districted to keep the overall number at 435. That’s the Law…..

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 17, 2018 • 9:19:36am
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JordanRules  May 17, 2018 • 9:29:35am

re: #210 Blind Frog Belly White

Mom used to poach eggs. She tried to show me how, but every time I tried it myself I ended up with a hardboiled yolk in a pan of flavorless egg drop soup.

There’s so many schools of thought and hacks around getting them perfect. It can be an art.

Julia Child had the 10 second boil.
There’s the swirling water technique.
Adding a small amount of vinegar to the water.
Precise water temperature method.
Using a small cup for delivery into the water.
Etc, etc.

I hardly ever do a full eggs benedict at home but love when I go out for breakfast and it’s perfectly executed. A great hollandaise can be tricky too.

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JordanRules  May 17, 2018 • 9:34:09am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 9:34:26am

re: #235 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I have no apologies for my graduation photos. As a woman, I refuse to be a victim & the second amendment ensures that I don’t have to be.

The Second Amendment also implies that you should be part of a well-regulated militia and not just a bimbo walking around with an assault weapon slung over your back…

but yes, I also blame your upbringing

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 9:35:53am

I blame her upbringing too. She’s never going to trust anyone if she’s convinced she needs a gun always.

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William Lewis  May 17, 2018 • 9:44:51am

re: #239 HappyWarrior

I blame her upbringing too. She’s never going to trust anyone if she’s convinced she needs a gun always.

Oh, I’m sure she’ll find some tall, blue eyed, & blond fundamentalist boy that she’ll trust right up to the day he snaps and kills her and their children…

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JordanRules  May 17, 2018 • 9:45:43am
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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 17, 2018 • 9:49:18am

re: #237 JordanRules

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JordanRules  May 17, 2018 • 9:49:40am
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JordanRules  May 17, 2018 • 9:52:01am
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GlutenFreeJesus  May 17, 2018 • 9:53:24am

That school bus was ripped off its frame. Shit.

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lawhawk  May 17, 2018 • 9:54:13am

re: #243 JordanRules

Sweet jeebus. The entire chasis of the bus separated in that accident.

That nj.com report also indicates that the bus may have been from the Paramus school district, which is right near where I live. Casaulties were taken to multiple hospitals including St. Joes and Morristown. Children are reported to have been ejected from the bus.

It’s impossible for them not to have given the state of the bus.

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lawhawk  May 17, 2018 • 9:55:17am

re: #244 JordanRules

Notably, not a single special counsel investigation under Obama was needed.

That doesn’t include the endless investigations against Clinton that turned up no wrongdoing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 17, 2018 • 9:56:32am

re: #247 lawhawk

Notably, not a single special counsel investigation under Obama was needed.

That doesn’t include the endless investigations against Clinton that turned up no wrongdoing.

I am about to say, where are Benghazigate and E-mailgate?

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JordanRules  May 17, 2018 • 9:57:11am
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GlutenFreeJesus  May 17, 2018 • 9:59:12am

re: #249 JordanRules

Gee. Just a year ago Trump got Qatar blockaded after claims of them being a terrorist state.

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calochortus  May 17, 2018 • 10:00:20am

re: #248 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am about to say, where are Benghazigate and E-mailgate?

That’s just investigations that resulted in charges.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  May 17, 2018 • 10:01:51am

re: #250 GlutenFreeJesus

Wait for it. Today or tomorrow he will speak glowingly about Qatar.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 17, 2018 • 10:02:20am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 17, 2018 • 10:02:47am
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Teukka  May 17, 2018 • 10:03:14am
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makeitstop  May 17, 2018 • 10:04:59am

re: #250 GlutenFreeJesus

Gee. Just a year ago Trump got Qatar blockaded after claims of them being a terrorist state.

And that blackmail worked like a charm.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 17, 2018 • 10:09:03am

re: #249 JordanRules

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 17, 2018 • 10:09:24am

“… A Republican lawmaker on the House Science, Space and Technology Committee said Thursday that rocks from the White Cliffs of Dover and the California coastline, as well as silt from rivers tumbling into the ocean, are contributing to globally high sea-levels.

Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.) made the comment during a hearing on technology and the changing climate, which largely turned into a Q&A on the basics of climate research. …”

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JordanRules  May 17, 2018 • 10:09:53am

re: #249 JordanRules

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I’m not a Barro fan, but this additional perspective and context is fair to consider.

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JordanRules  May 17, 2018 • 10:11:11am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 17, 2018 • 10:11:31am

Thanks Obama

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JordanRules  May 17, 2018 • 10:12:38am

Gross.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 10:13:31am

re: #261 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Thanks Obama

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Obviously a liberal.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 10:13:59am

re: #262 JordanRules

Gross.

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Poor Prague.

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lawhawk  May 17, 2018 • 10:14:02am

Speaking of blackmail, North Korea knows how to play everyone, especially Trump, for a fool while giving up absolutely nothing of worth in return.

What did North Korea give up to get to a summit with Trump?
Nothing. There’s no value is saying you’ll dismantle a test site that is no longer functional/usable because your last nuclear test cracked the geology of the site and made it too unstable to ever use again.

What did the US give up?
Leverage and precondition. Trump told North Korea they didn’t have to give up their nuclear weapons program before holding direct talks. Prior to this, every president has indicated the only way to direct talks is disarmament first before considering talks.

Now we’re at the point of a summit (or no summit), North Korea’s the one who’s dictating the terms: They’re the ones saying the US/South Koreans can’t hold joint drills or else the summit is off. They’re the ones telling people what to do. They’re telling Trump what he needs to do.

That’s not American leadership. That’s not strengthening US foreign policy or improving national security. It’s the very opposite.

Trump has undermined our security and safety and that of our allies.

Guess who benefits from all this: not the US. It’s Russia, China, and rogue nations like North Korea who know how to extract concessions from Trump without giving up a goddamned thing.

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JordanRules  May 17, 2018 • 10:14:25am

re: #261 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 17, 2018 • 10:14:54am

re: #261 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Thanks Obama

Click for more

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Big Beautiful Door  May 17, 2018 • 10:16:32am

re: #262 JordanRules

Gross.

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Maybe Dr. Lizardo or one of his students can go and report first-hand!

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Teukka  May 17, 2018 • 10:17:05am

re: #261 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Thanks Obama

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My surprise, etc. etc. etc. etc.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 17, 2018 • 10:18:38am

re: #250 GlutenFreeJesus

Gee. Just a year ago Trump got Qatar blockaded after claims of them being a terrorist state.

Yes after they refused to pay the baksheesh that Kushner demanded.

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ObserverArt  May 17, 2018 • 10:19:12am

re: #240 William Lewis

Oh, I’m sure she’ll find some tall, blue eyed, & blond fundamentalist boy that she’ll trust right up to the day he snaps and kills her and their children…

I was reading a bit of the one tweet that was displayed here the other day.

She mentioned the reason she carries a gun is because of Kent State May 4th 1970.

She wants to protect herself from the government.

Dear Ms. Gun Nut…do you really think if the National Guard is called onto your campus you and your gun are going to prevent you from getting smoked? As soon as you shoot, you will be a target and your fantasy may soon be over. Permanently.

I guess maybe getting off a few shots against actual military will feel pretty good before you die.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 17, 2018 • 10:20:27am

re: #270 The Vicious Babushka

Yes after they refused to pay the baksheesh that Kushner demanded.

Base on the ZTE sanctions reversal after the Chinese loan to a Trump project, I now suspect backing out of the Iran deal is more about “pay to play” than anything Iran is doing.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 17, 2018 • 10:20:57am

This is bad

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 17, 2018 • 10:22:06am

Shocked, shocked I say.

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JordanRules  May 17, 2018 • 10:22:49am
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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 10:23:25am

re: #275 JordanRules

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JordanRules  May 17, 2018 • 10:23:27am
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Dave In Austin  May 17, 2018 • 10:24:44am

Pele demands sacrifices……

Please drop off all your Sacrifices for Sacrificing at you local Walmarts, and all Discount Tire Locations.

Thank You.

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Jay C  May 17, 2018 • 10:24:51am

While I was looking for volcano pix on Google News, I wandered onto the CBS News website: apparently, the latest tack the WH is going to be taking in the Russiagate investigations is yet another whine about being “victimized” by the FBI; who, they are going to be claiming, “spied on their campaign”. (IOW, doing their jobs?)

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lawhawk  May 17, 2018 • 10:26:22am

re: #273 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Indeed, it’s real bad news. Good news is that they’re fielding a vaccine that appears to be successful in stopping transmission of the disease.

The real bad news? Trump’s pandemic specialist left the government, and Trump’s been looking to gut CDC funding, including for pandemic work.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 17, 2018 • 10:26:41am

re: #255 Teukka

Bonus points if you figure out how many of the other stages are occuring..

Looks like 1-6 are pretty well underway.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 17, 2018 • 10:28:34am

re: #275 JordanRules

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This could be very good. My favorite spy drama The Americans is in its final season, and is wrapping up with some of the best episodes of its great run.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 17, 2018 • 10:29:09am

re: #279 Jay C

While I was looking for volcano pix on Google News, I wandered onto the CBS News website: apparently, the latest tack the WH is going to be taking in the Russiagate investigations is yet another whine about being “victimized” by the FBI; who, they are going to be claiming, “spied on their campaign”. (IOW, doing their jobs?)

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 10:30:09am

re: #282 Big Beautiful Door

This could be very good. My favorite spy drama The Americans is in its final season, and is wrapping up with some of the best episodes of its great run.

After reading Hunting Eichmann a few years back, I thought a serious dramatization of hunting Nazis would make a really good dramatization. Boys From Brazil was fun but it was more silly than serious. Excited about Jordan’s projects. BTW he needs to tell Key to play Cory Booker if/when Booker seeks the nomination.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 17, 2018 • 10:30:34am

snowflake

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Kragar  May 17, 2018 • 10:32:45am
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Eventual Carrion  May 17, 2018 • 10:32:56am

re: #258 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Sponges grow in the ocean. That just kills me. I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be if that didn’t happen.
— Steven Wright

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 10:33:33am

re: #286 Backwoods_Sleuth

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snowflake

Yeah saying you have white privilege is the same as being hassled by the cops or having the cops called on you because of your skin color. You chose to pose with a loaded AR-15 and it’s true had you been a person of color, the same people who feed your pathetic victimhood complex now would be calling you a thug. Get the fuck off of the safe space of Fox News and in to the real world.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 17, 2018 • 10:33:50am
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makeitstop  May 17, 2018 • 10:34:08am

re: #277 JordanRules

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Dolly’s great.

Two years ago, my wife and I bought surprise tickets for my mother in law’s birthday to see Dolly (her absolute favorite) at Forest Hills Stadium, and we sprung for really good tickets - fourth row. My MiL thought they’d be sitting up in the stands and she was shocked when they walked her down to the front.

I didn’t get to go because I was working that night. But the show was during Pride Week, and my wife said they were surrounded by gay guys who flirted with my MiL all night long. Both my wife and MiL had a great time.

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JordanRules  May 17, 2018 • 10:34:26am
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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 10:34:28am

re: #287 Kragar

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Donald, you ignorant slut. It wasn’t Obama’s FBI. It was and is the nation’s FBI but I get it. Looking forward to seeing you, Jared, and your boys in jail one of these days and hopefully Ivanka too. She’d look good in orange!

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A Mom Anon  May 17, 2018 • 10:34:31am

re: #286 Backwoods_Sleuth

I get a feeling that if there was a mass showing at every gun retailer of PoC clamoring for ARs and AKs and the like there would be a cry for “sensible restrictions” on buying the damned things. Just a hunch….

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 10:35:18am

re: #294 A Mom Anon

I get a feeling that if there was a mass showing at every gun retailer of PoC clamoring for ARs and AKs and the like there would be a cry for “sensible restrictions” on buying the damned things. Just a hunch….

If she were a young black woman posing with an AR-15 like that, I guarantee that FNC would be calling her a militant thug.

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Dr Lizardo  May 17, 2018 • 10:35:36am

re: #268 Big Beautiful Door

Maybe Dr. Lizardo or one of his students can go and report first-hand!

Nope. I’d be too tempted to preface my questions with, “Hey, you alcoholic fuck, you fucking traitorous trail of pigeonshit, what do you think about……” or something to that effect.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 17, 2018 • 10:35:36am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 17, 2018 • 10:36:05am

re: #296 Dr Lizardo

Nope. I’d be too tempted to preface my questions with, “Hey, you alcoholic fuck, you fucking traitorous trail of pigeonshit, what do you think about……” or something to that effect.

All the better reason for you to go!

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JordanRules  May 17, 2018 • 10:36:47am

re: #296 Dr Lizardo

Nope. I’d be too tempted to preface my questions with, “Hey, you alcoholic fuck, you fucking traitorous trail of pigeonshit, what do you think about……” or something to that effect.

Sounds perfect!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 17, 2018 • 10:37:29am
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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 10:40:10am

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’ve known plenty of El Salvadorans over the year. Trump and his allies want to convince the American people that El Salvadoran immigrants are nothing but MS-13 and furthermore they want people not to know that our policies helped lead to the gang’s creation in the first place since the right’s hero Reagan was dicking around in El Salvador without knowing a goddamned thing about its people and just wanting “Anti-communism.”

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Belafon  May 17, 2018 • 10:40:15am

re: #261 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Thanks Obama

Only because people like him do these kinds of things.

The NRA is a stochastic terrorist organization.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 17, 2018 • 10:41:01am
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lawhawk  May 17, 2018 • 10:41:56am

re: #291 makeitstop

There were major wildfires around Gaitlinsburg/Pigeon Forge TN near Dollywood. 1000s of homes and businesses were destroyed.

Dolly helped local businesses and set up funds to assist homeowners get back on their feet.

She’s one of the good ones out there.

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TedStriker  May 17, 2018 • 10:42:48am

re: #305 lawhawk

There were major wildfires around Gaitlinsburg Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge TN near Dollywood. 1000s of homes and businesses were destroyed.

Dolly helped local businesses and set up funds to assist homeowners get back on their feet.

She’s one of the good ones out there.

FTFY

/TN native

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gocart mozart  May 17, 2018 • 10:42:58am
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Hecuba's daughter  May 17, 2018 • 10:43:57am

re: #221 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I would be for keeping the Electoral College, but make it proportional to population and only have it kick in if no candidate gets a clear majority of the popular vote.

That doesn’t completely work because it retains the evils of the Electoral College. It doesn’t address voter disenfranchisement; after all, a state that allowed only white male voters still has a population count that includes all citizens + non-citizens and therefore it would get that far more electoral votes than it should receive; i.e. the 3/5 compromise redux. Of course, in your scenario, it only kicks in if no one receives 50% of the vote, which alleviates the problem somewhat but Trump would still have won in 2016.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 10:44:03am

re: #305 lawhawk

There were major wildfires around Gaitlinsburg/Pigeon Forge TN near Dollywood. 1000s of homes and businesses were destroyed.

Dolly helped local businesses and set up funds to assist homeowners get back on their feet.

She’s one of the good ones out there.

Also a great friend to the LGBT community too. I like her. Doesn’t seem to take herself too seriously despite fame but has a big heart.

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Belafon  May 17, 2018 • 10:44:51am

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

It is, Donald, because Nixon didn’t take money or information from Russia.

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lawhawk  May 17, 2018 • 10:45:33am
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Big Beautiful Door  May 17, 2018 • 10:45:46am

re: #300 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A member of the master race, right there.

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jaunte  May 17, 2018 • 10:46:45am

re: #307 gocart mozart

“…State governments are also forbidden to discriminate against immigrants based on national origin. In a recent high-profile decision, a federal court struck down an Indiana policy, enacted by then-governor Mike Pence, that denied state services to Syrian refugees that were made available to refugees from other nations.

The trial court ruled that this practice was “national origin” discrimination, forbidden by the Fourteenth Amendment. Its decision was later upheld by an appellate court panel that included prominent conservative judges Frank Easterbrook and Diane Sykes (the latter generally considered to be a likely future Republican nominee to the Supreme Court).”
learnliberty.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 17, 2018 • 10:47:24am
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Big Beautiful Door  May 17, 2018 • 10:48:38am

re: #307 gocart mozart

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Kragar  May 17, 2018 • 10:48:45am
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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 10:50:19am

re: #316 Kragar

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Great job FNC! The official safe space of White Supremacist Millennials.

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jaunte  May 17, 2018 • 10:50:22am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 17, 2018 • 10:52:12am
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Belafon  May 17, 2018 • 10:52:42am

re: #311 lawhawk

So, he’s a Republican.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 17, 2018 • 10:53:46am

re: #308 Hecuba’s daughter

That doesn’t completely work because it retains the evils of the Electoral College. It doesn’t address voter disenfranchisement; after all, a state that allowed only white male voters still has a population count that includes all citizens + non-citizens and therefore it would get that far more electoral votes than it should receive; i.e. the 3/5 compromise redux. Of course, in your scenario, it only kicks in if no one receives 50% of the vote, which alleviates the problem somewhat but Trump would still have won in 2016.

The problem is that the Constitution isn’t going to be amended to abolish the electoral college. But if states with at least 270 electoral votes pass the law awarding their electors to the popular vote winner, that solves the problem. We could also make our system more like a parliamentary system without amending the Constitution. If we incorporated proportional representation into congressional elections, and awarded electors proportionally rather than on a winner take all basis, Congress would end up selecting most Presidents, which I believe is what the founders thought was going to happen.

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Belafon  May 17, 2018 • 10:53:47am

re: #317 HappyWarrior

Great job FNC! The official safe space of White Supremacist Millennials.

They’ve got to attract younger viewers somehow. And maybe she’ll get a job there.

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I cannot.  May 17, 2018 • 10:54:20am
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ObserverArt  May 17, 2018 • 10:54:44am

re: #319 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Lily is very up-to-date and stylin’ that hair cut!

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 10:54:53am

re: #322 Belafon

They’ve got to attract younger viewers somehow. And maybe she’ll get a job there.

True. Tomi’s new wingnut car smell isn’t going to last forever.

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Belafon  May 17, 2018 • 10:56:52am

re: #323 I cannot.

Oh, I would love for that fight to play out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 17, 2018 • 10:58:35am

re: #156 makeitstop

It looks like it’s gonna get noisy outside that bigot lawyer’s office tomorrow…

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I cannot.  May 17, 2018 • 10:58:37am

re: #326 Belafon

Grenades at five paces.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 10:59:18am

re: #326 Belafon

Oh, I would love for that fight to play out.

I pose with guns more ridiculously
No, I do!
And then Ted Nugent settles it by shitting his pants proving he does.

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Dr Lizardo  May 17, 2018 • 11:01:03am

re: #329 HappyWarrior

I pose with guns more ridiculously
No, I do!
And then Ted Nugent settles it by shitting his pants proving he does.

In all fairness, it’s hard to top the ol’ pants-shitter.

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Jay C  May 17, 2018 • 11:01:30am

re: #302 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So - if I’m reading this right, there was likely to have been some leaker/whistleblower in the Trump Campaign who leaked/blew the whistle on their (almost certainly) criminal activities to the Feds: which the Orange Asshole is now going to try to spin as unconscionable “spying”?? Because Obama….?

Yeah, Donald, this just may be “bigger than Watergate” - worse for YOU vs. Nixon, that is….

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jaunte  May 17, 2018 • 11:01:36am
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Jay C  May 17, 2018 • 11:03:15am

re: #325 HappyWarrior

True. Tomi’s new wingnut car smell isn’t going to last forever.

But surely, some smell probably WILL.

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jaunte  May 17, 2018 • 11:04:46am
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KGxvi  May 17, 2018 • 11:05:15am

re: #321 Big Beautiful Door

The problem is that the Constitution isn’t going to be amended to abolish the electoral college. But if states with at least 270 electoral votes pass the law awarding their electors to the popular vote winner, that solves the problem. We could also make our system more like a parliamentary system without amending the Constitution. If we incorporated proportional representation into congressional elections, and awarded electors proportionally rather than on a winner take all basis, Congress would end up selecting most Presidents, which I believe is what the founders thought was going to happen.

Proportional representation would make the parties too strong, I don’t think voters would go for that. Plus we follow the British tradition of first past the post, and immnot sure many voters would be receptive to an argument for change.

On the EC, assuming some sort of minimum to qualify, I’m not sure how it would work in smaller states. It would likely better mirror the popular vote but could give the GOP a very strong advantage because they do likely gain more votes from places like California and New York than Democratic would pick up from other states.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 11:06:25am

re: #334 jaunte

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Saying you shouldn’t be a dick to people who are different.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 11:08:02am

re: #327 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Not it matters at all but Willie looks like any other White guy you’d see on the streets. Schlossenberg has fucking issues.

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Patricia Kayden  May 17, 2018 • 11:08:19am

re: #295 HappyWarrior

She would have been gunned down by the police. Who are we fooling?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 17, 2018 • 11:08:21am
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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 11:10:54am

re: #339 Backwoods_Sleuth

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These people probably think any Hispanic male is a MS-13 member. I genuinely worry about my SiL’s brother in law sometimes. He thankfully has permanent residency and I suspect will have no trouble eventually getting citizenship but times are tense.

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ObserverArt  May 17, 2018 • 11:12:51am

re: #338 Patricia Kayden

She would have been gunned down by the police. Who are we fooling?

Police?

It would be worse than that.

It was the Ohio National Guard that was on the Kent State campus which she wants to protect herself against should the Government come on her campus again.

And they are a lot better equipped than they were in 1970…with things like body armor, armored personnel carriers, Humvees…

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Patricia Kayden  May 17, 2018 • 11:13:28am

re: #339 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t she couldn’t call ICE on anyone she believed was an illegal immigrant given how ICE has no compunction going after Brown people in general.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 11:14:40am

Yep he didn’t say anything about MS-13. He called them all animals. I hate this President. Not merely his policies but he is without a doubt one of the most disgusting people I’ve seen in our country. The last person who should have any political power let alone influence.

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jaunte  May 17, 2018 • 11:14:59am
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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 11:16:17am

re: #344 jaunte

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He’s a straight talker until he’s not. Fuck him.

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Jay C  May 17, 2018 • 11:16:23am

re: #335 KGxvi

Proportional representation would make the parties too strong, I don’t think voters would go for that. Plus we follow the British tradition of first past the post, and immnot sure many voters would be receptive to an argument for change.

On the EC, assuming some sort of minimum to qualify, I’m not sure how it would work in smaller states. It would likely better mirror the popular vote but could give the GOP a very strong advantage because they do likely gain more votes from places like California and New York than Democratic would pick up from other states.

I dunno: flawed as the (mostly) winner-take-all Electoral College system is, most of the proposed changes really would have the effect of “giv[ing] the GOP a very strong advantage” - which is by design: creative gerrymandering being one of the political skills today’s Republicans have mastered to the max. Until WTA worked for them in 2016, I recall seeing a lot of red-state GOP agitation to change their WTA system for EVs to a “proportional” one (as I think two states - ??NE and ME?? - do now) by Congressional District. Which of course, Republicans are likely to zone to maximize their own representation, and suppress Democrats wherever possible.
Before anyone agitates for change, we should make sure the change is going to be positive.

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garzooma  May 17, 2018 • 11:16:32am

Former GOP Congressman lays out the case for treason:

The thirteen Russian operatives indicted by the Special Counsel for waging a disinformation campaign through our social media platforms and other internet media, described their activity as “information warfare against the United States of America.”

The question we must now ask is were these Russian cyber attacks merely crimes on a massive scale, or, as cyber expert George Lucas asks, do they represent something different — acts of war? And if a state of war existed between the two nations, could the actions and comments of Donald Trump and his campaign officials therefore be considered treasonable?

So are there any Democrats making this point, since they were the people directly attacked?

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Kragar  May 17, 2018 • 11:18:51am
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jaunte  May 17, 2018 • 11:19:30am

Lets ask Trump supporters what he really meant!

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 11:19:36am

TBH I believe in one person, one vote. Dems shouldn’t be punished for being in densely populated areas just as Republicans shouldn’t be rewards for being in less dense areas. My vote should count the same as someone in Brooklyn and in Wyoming.

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Alephnaught  May 17, 2018 • 11:20:08am

So, being on the other side of the world, I’ve only just started to process this firehose of news in the past 24 hours.

Anyway, here is my most recent hot take on the issues of today. *cough*

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wrenchwench  May 17, 2018 • 11:22:28am

re: #351 Alephnaught

So, being on the other side of the world, I’ve only just started to process this firehose of news in the past 24 hours.

Anyway, here is my most recent hot take on the issues of today. *cough*

[Is there a word for that sort of thing?]

That’s kind of mavericky. No offense intended.

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jaunte  May 17, 2018 • 11:23:47am

When you’re in China, do you hear Yannylaurel as “Mnuchin” or “Navarro?”

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Kragar  May 17, 2018 • 11:24:05am
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Scottish Dragon  May 17, 2018 • 11:24:15am
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Targetpractice  May 17, 2018 • 11:26:49am

re: #354 Kragar

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I can’t imagine why anyone would think that man was not a masterful negotiator.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 11:29:05am

re: #355 Scottish Dragon

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It’s full circle tbh. Kind of like how “black crimes” were heavily publicized in the Jim Crow South to encourage violence and hatred against black people especially black men.

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Dave In Austin  May 17, 2018 • 11:30:57am

re: #349 jaunte

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Lets ask Trump supporters what he really meant!

That alone made me Chuckle Mightily…..

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 11:31:03am

washingtonpost.com

This was in the Post a few days back. Gene Robinson did a great job showing the fallacy of the “real American” fallacy bullshit the right loves to push and has pretty much been pushing my entire lifetime.

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Kragar  May 17, 2018 • 11:31:55am

re: #356 Targetpractice

I can’t imagine why anyone would think that man was not a masterful negotiator.

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wrenchwench  May 17, 2018 • 11:33:47am

I just got a form letter in a personally addressed envelope, encouraging me to vote for a candidate for a small office. It’s from a guy who has always been very high on my list of local jerks. This does not improve my opinion of the candidate. Also, I have seen this candidate’s yard signs in yards that also have signs for candidates I do not like. Two illogical strikes against him. I suppose I should go to his website and judge on the basis of other information.

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Targetpractice  May 17, 2018 • 11:33:52am

re: #360 Kragar

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But Trump prostrated himself before them by offering to make the whole business with ZTE go away. How could they betray him like this?!

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 11:33:54am

re: #360 Kragar

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So Trump supporters in the Soybean belt, this is what Putin, your “Christian Knight” does when the man you elected shows his dick to the whole world. But hey you sure showed us libs!

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Targetpractice  May 17, 2018 • 11:36:57am

“If Kim Jong-Un walks away from the talks he’ll be a fool because China and Russia will help destroy his regime through sanctions!!!”

R&C: “Yeah, about that…”

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mmmirele  May 17, 2018 • 11:37:22am

re: #199 ObserverArt

Thanks for the update on the ECOT scandal! I’ve been following it at a distance.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 17, 2018 • 11:38:26am
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gocart mozart  May 17, 2018 • 11:40:21am
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Targetpractice  May 17, 2018 • 11:41:31am

re: #366 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Translation: “I NEED THESE TALKS TO HAPPEN, KIM! DON’T BLOW THIS FOR ME!!!”

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ObserverArt  May 17, 2018 • 11:41:54am

re: #347 garzooma

Former GOP Congressman lays out the case for treason:

So are there any Democrats making this point, since they were the people directly attacked?

I think the Democrats are in a state where they do not want to speak in public about anything regarding Trump’s issues while the Mueller investigation is ongoing and while in a mid-term election year.

There is too much to be concerned with how it will be seen and distorted by our media. The Republicans are already saying that is all the Democrats are doing; talking about impeachment. The Democrats are trying to step away from that.

But when the time comes, hopefully just after a successful election season and Mueller has released his findings, there will be plenty of time to consider all the things that need to be done to bring Trump to justice.

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gocart mozart  May 17, 2018 • 11:42:28am

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 11:43:29am

re: #366 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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He continues to show himself to be utterly clueless. But maybe if you impress him, he’ll offer you exile in North Korea.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 11:44:14am

re: #367 gocart mozart

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Ah Russian bots.

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makeitstop  May 17, 2018 • 11:45:44am

Hot New Trend: Middle-class people are taking MDMA wrapped in cheese in a new trend called ‘brieing’

“I have a strong circle of female friends and we had tried all the latest fads, food fashions, and destination dinner parties but something was missing,” she told the Metro. “We did not seem to have as much of a laugh than as when we were younger, there always seemed to be barriers up between us.”

So, after being given a gram of MDMA by her daughter, and strict instructions to swallow rather than snort it from her son, she and her friends wrapped the substance in pieces of brie and ate it.

“Nothing much happened for forty minutes then the colours in the rug seemed to be a more vivid and before I know it was in an in-depth conversation about my fantasy sex life with an old friend,” the woman said. “It was such an intense experience. I am sure most of us at that party have done it with other friends so now wrapping MDMA in brie seems to be a thing now.”

In fact, a year later, the woman said she had been invited to several “brieing” parties. She reckons it has taken off because it is “such a middle class way to take drugs.”

‘Brieing.’ Check, please.

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Sir John Barron  May 17, 2018 • 11:46:48am

re: #366 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

he seems to be hedging all of a sudden now, whereas the other day he was talking like his meeting and agreement would save the world.

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lawhawk  May 17, 2018 • 11:47:17am

re: #366 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Dumbass is being dumb.

Trump’s first job is to protect and defend the nation from threats. That means getting North Korea to dismantle its nuclear program and stop threatening the US and our allies.

North Korea isn’t going to do any of that because the nukes are what got Trump to the bargaining table in the first place. They’re not going to give them up.

It’s not a question about being pals. It’s that Trump doesn’t even know what he’s supposed to do and there’s no one else who can inform him - they don’t know or wont tell Trump what he needs to hear.

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lawhawk  May 17, 2018 • 11:48:30am

DeVos went to NYC and visited schools.

NYC has the largest public school system in the nation. She didn’t visit any of those. Not Stuyvesant. Not Midwood. Not Townsend Harris. Not Cardozo. Not any highly regarded middle or grade school.

Nope. She visited a couple of private schools.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 11:49:28am

re: #376 lawhawk

DeVos went to NYC and visited schools.

NYC has the largest public school system in the nation. She didn’t visit any of those. Not Stuyvesant. Not Midwood. Not Townsend Harris. Not Cardozo. Not any highly regarded middle or grade school.

Nope. She visited a couple of private schools.

And we’re the elitists.

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ObserverArt  May 17, 2018 • 11:49:40am

re: #373 makeitstop

Hot New Trend: Middle-class people are taking MDMA wrapped in cheese in a new trend called ‘brieing’

‘Brieing.’ Check, please.

Kids and their drugs these days!

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Kragar  May 17, 2018 • 11:49:45am
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gwangung  May 17, 2018 • 11:50:14am

re: #375 lawhawk

Dumbass is being dumb.

Trump’s first job is to protect and defend the nation from threats. That means getting North Korea to dismantle its nuclear program and stop threatening the US and our allies.

North Korea isn’t going to do any of that because the nukes are what got Trump to the bargaining table in the first place. They’re not going to give them up.

It’s not a question about being pals. It’s that Trump doesn’t even know what he’s supposed to do and there’s no one else who can inform him - they don’t know or wont tell Trump what he needs to hear.

Being played like a haegum.

And too stupid to know it.

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 11:50:46am

re: #379 Kragar

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Sigh.

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Targetpractice  May 17, 2018 • 11:51:07am

re: #374 Sir John Barron

he seems to be hedging all of a sudden now, whereas the other day he was talking like his meeting and agreement would save the world.

And yesterday, Huckaboo was out before the press, acting like the talks not happening was no big deal and they never really cared if Kim shitcanned the whole thing.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 17, 2018 • 11:53:32am
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ObserverArt  May 17, 2018 • 11:55:46am

re: #376 lawhawk

DeVos went to NYC and visited schools.

NYC has the largest public school system in the nation. She didn’t visit any of those. Not Stuyvesant. Not Midwood. Not Townsend Harris. Not Cardozo. Not any highly regarded middle or grade school.

Nope. She visited a couple of private schools.

I wonder if she would like to talk about the ECOT (Electronic School of Tomorrow) charter school now closed in Ohio and under FBI investigation for possibly taking money intended for the school and donating it to Ohio state government Republicans?

re: #199 ObserverArt

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 11:58:19am

re: #383 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Disgraceful.

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goddamnedfrank  May 17, 2018 • 12:02:04pm

re: #386 goddamnedfrank

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Targetpractice  May 17, 2018 • 12:02:48pm

re: #387 goddamnedfrank

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A tweet for every occasion.

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MsJ  May 17, 2018 • 12:04:51pm
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lawhawk  May 17, 2018 • 12:04:54pm

re: #389 Single-handed sailor

And then you’ve got the photos of the folks out playing golf with the eruption going on in the background. It’s insane.

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BigPapa  May 17, 2018 • 12:06:43pm

re: #391 lawhawk

And then you’ve got the photos of the folks out playing golf with the eruption going on in the background. It’s insane.

I never miss a tee time.

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MsJ  May 17, 2018 • 12:06:48pm

Awwww…

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lawhawk  May 17, 2018 • 12:07:21pm
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MsJ  May 17, 2018 • 12:08:54pm
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Targetpractice  May 17, 2018 • 12:11:26pm

re: #393 MsJ

Awwww…

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Ya know, I normally don’t support harassment…but this douchebag brought it on himself.

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MsJ  May 17, 2018 • 12:12:08pm

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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 12:12:20pm

re: #396 Targetpractice

Ya know, I normally don’t support harassment…but this douchebag brought it on himself.

After seeing he’s got a history. Notta a damn bit.

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MsJ  May 17, 2018 • 12:13:28pm

re: #396 Targetpractice

Ya know, I normally don’t support harassment…but this douchebag brought it on himself.

And apparently, it’s “a thing” with him. I think there videos have come out.

He’ll probably be on Trump’s staff soon.

Spit.

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allegro  May 17, 2018 • 12:13:43pm

Trend I’m noticing… 3 times in the past week from conservative friends, they now (for the first time I’ve heard) describe themselves as not conservatives, but conservative/libertarian, emphasis and insistence on the libertarian part. They don’t know each other so it isn’t a group thing. This indicates to me that the term “conservative” is becoming quite toxic.

I’ve had the same conversation with all three. I claim that Trump IS the current republican party and the flagship of what the party has devolved into. They all insist that no, he isn’t - he’s a usurper, not a “real” republican, and not representative of the party. I ask then why is the republican party protecting so vehemently his open and egregious corruption since with control of both houses of Congress they could take him out yesterday. They say the party can’t do that. I ask why. They say because it would destroy the party. I submit that this alone proves the factual nature of my claim. They change the subject after a sputter or two.

They have further acknowledged the truth of my claim (by this, I mean the truth in their eyes finally - we here already know it) when I give them the “out” by saying that many republicans I know have left the party and become independents. They all brightened up and said “yes! I’m pretty much there, too.”

Take it for what it’s worth, but I see this as progress and a good reason to keep talking to our conservative… um, libertarian… friends and family members. The more sane ones anyway.

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Targetpractice  May 17, 2018 • 12:18:57pm

re: #400 allegro

Trend I’m noticing… 3 times in the past week from conservative friends, they now (for the first time I’ve heard) describe themselves as not conservatives, but conservative/libertarian, emphasis and insistence on the libertarian part. They don’t know each other so it isn’t a group thing. This indicates to me that the term “conservative” is becoming quite toxic.

I’ve had the same conversation with all three. I claim that Trump IS the current republican party and the flagship of what the party has devolved into. They all insist that no, he isn’t - he’s a usurper, not a “real” republican, and not representative of the party. I ask then why is the republican party protecting so vehemently his open and egregious corruption since with control of both houses of Congress they could take him out yesterday. They say the party can’t do that. I ask why. They say because it would destroy the party. I submit that this alone proves the factual nature of my claim. They change the subject after a sputter or two.

They have further acknowledged the truth of my claim (by this, I mean the truth in their eyes finally - we here already know it) when I give them the “out” by saying that many republicans I know have left the party and become independents. They all brightened up and said “yes! I’m pretty much there, too.”

Take it for what it’s worth, but I see this as progress and a good reason to keep talking to our conservative… um, libertarian… friends and family members. The more sane ones anyway.

Problem with that: I’ve heard it all before. After ‘06 and the truth of Dubya’s radioactivity became apparent to Republicans, they all suddenly became “independents” and even began dabbling in being “libertarians.” They all started insisting that they’d voted for him for reasons that had nothing to do with his being a Republican, they’d voted to “support the troops” or “because of the economy,” but all swore that if a “better” Dem had run they’d have voted for him instead. It’s where the “Tea Party” came from, conservatives who wanted to hate on the black guy who’d won but didn’t want to wear the scarlet “R” until after the wins of ‘10.

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wrenchwench  May 17, 2018 • 12:19:39pm

re: #400 allegro

Trend I’m noticing… 3 times in the past week from conservative friends, they now (for the first time I’ve heard) describe themselves as not conservatives, but conservative/libertarian, emphasis and insistence on the libertarian part. They don’t know each other so it isn’t a group thing. This indicates to me that the term “conservative” is becoming quite toxic.

I’ve had the same conversation with all three. I claim that Trump IS the current republican party and the flagship of what the party has devolved into. They all insist that no, he isn’t - he’s a usurper, not a “real” republican, and not representative of the party. I ask then why is the republican party protecting so vehemently his open and egregious corruption since with control of both houses of Congress they could take him out yesterday. They say the party can’t do that. I ask why. They say because it would destroy the party. I submit that this alone proves the factual nature of my claim. They change the subject after a sputter or two.

They have further acknowledged the truth of my claim (by this, I mean the truth in their eyes finally - we here already know it) when I give them the “out” by saying that many republicans I know have left the party and become independents. They all brightened up and said “yes! I’m pretty much there, too.”

Take it for what it’s worth, but I see this as progress and a good reason to keep talking to our conservative… um, libertarian… friends and family members. The more sane ones anyway.

Next up in their education: ‘Libertarian’ has nothing to do with being an ‘independent’. ‘Libertarian’ is much closer to Trump and Tea Party.

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wrenchwench  May 17, 2018 • 12:20:17pm

re: #401 Targetpractice

Problem with that: I’ve heard it all before. After ‘06 and the truth of Dubya’s radioactivity became apparent to Republicans, they all suddenly became “independents” and even began dabbling in being “libertarians.” They all started insisting that they’d voted for him for reasons that had nothing to do with his being a Republican, they’d voted to “support the troops” or “because of the economy,” but all swore that if a “better” Dem had run they’d have voted for him instead. It’s where the “Tea Party” came from, conservatives who wanted to hate on the black guy who’d won but didn’t want to wear the scarlet “R” until after the wins of ‘10.

Get out of my head. Not enough room in there…

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jaunte  May 17, 2018 • 12:22:16pm

Yooge Trump Foreign Policy Sale!!!
Everything Must Go!!
No Returns!

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allegro  May 17, 2018 • 12:22:24pm

re: #402 wrenchwench

Next up in their education: ‘Libertarian’ has nothing to do with being an ‘independent’. ‘Libertarian’ is much closer to Trump and Tea Party.

Yup. Still working on that. Baby steps.

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Bubblehead II  May 17, 2018 • 12:27:39pm

re: #399 MsJ

And apparently, it’s “a thing” with him. I think there videos have come out.

He’ll probably be on Trump’s staff soon.

Spit.

Well he does need lawyers and this ass clown seems to be the type that would feel at home either in the the White House or a ICE unit.

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jaunte  May 17, 2018 • 12:27:40pm

This week in Republican Science:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 17, 2018 • 12:27:43pm
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HappyWarrior  May 17, 2018 • 12:28:46pm

re: #408 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Shut up Pete.

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BeachDem  May 17, 2018 • 12:32:52pm

Just catching up after spending 3 hours trying to decipher cross-tabs on a ridiculously skewed survey for a client. Ugh.

Anyway, two things:

1. Lindsey Graham—don’t know what is causing him to be such a complete far-right asswipe these days—even worse than usual. As far as it being “anything to get elected,” that doesn’t make sense to me because he’s not up for re-election till 2020 and in 2014, he blew his more wingnutty opponents out in the primary—the closest competitor only got 15%. It’s one of two things (or a combination). He loves to be on TV, so the more “controversial” his comments, the more face time and/or Trump and the gang have something to hold over his head. And I’d be surprised if that involved sexual orientation, as those rumors have abounded down here for years and don’t seem to affect his results. It’s a puzzlement.

2. I love Dolly Parton and especially her version of “I Will Always Love You.” I can barely listen to Whitney Houston’s version without breaking out in hives.

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Sir John Barron  May 17, 2018 • 12:33:58pm

re: #410 BeachDem

Just catching up after spending 3 hours trying to decipher cross-tabs on a ridiculously skewed survey for a client. Ugh.

Anyway, two things:

1. Lindsey Graham—don’t know what is causing him to be such a complete far-right asswipe these days—even worse than usual. As far as it being “anything to get elected,” that doesn’t make sense to me because he’s not up for re-election till 2020 and in 2014, he blew his more wingnutty opponents out in the primary—the closest competitor only got 15%. It’s one of two things (or a combination). He loves to be on TV, so the more “controversial” his comments, the more face time and/or Trump and the gang have something to hold over his head. And I’d be surprised if that involved sexual orientation, as those rumors have abounded down here for years and don’t seem to affect his results. It’s a puzzlement.

2. I love Dolly Parton and especially her version of “I Will Always Love You.” I can barely listen to Whitney Houston’s version without breaking out in hives.

Yeah he’s really disappointed me.

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KGxvi  May 17, 2018 • 12:34:03pm

re: #402 wrenchwench

Next up in their education: ‘Libertarian’ has nothing to do with being an ‘independent’. ‘Libertarian’ is much closer to Trump and Tea Party.

I’ve pretty much always described myself as a libertarian. And on plenty of occasions have voted for Democrats over Republicans. But I also studied political science and history, so my ideology is more than taxes are theft and all government action is tyranny. About a 10-12 years ago, I joked that one night I went to bed as a center-right libertarian and woke up a center-left libertarian, without any of my positions really changing.

The best summary of my views is that liberty is a balancing point, a fulcrum between tyranny and anarchy (what Hamilton would have called license). Sometimes you need more regulation, sometimes you need less; but ultimately it comes down to balancing equities.

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makeitstop  May 17, 2018 • 12:36:20pm

re: #410 BeachDem

I love Dolly Parton and especially her version of “I Will Always Love You.” I can barely listen to Whitney Houston’s version without breaking out in hives.

I just heard this on the radio the other day for the first time - Dolly covers Collective Soul’s ‘Shine.’ Such a sweet cover.

Dolly Parton - Shine [Official Music Video]

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wrenchwench  May 17, 2018 • 12:40:03pm

re: #412 KGxvi

I’ve pretty much always described myself as a libertarian. And on plenty of occasions have voted for Democrats over Republicans. But I also studied political science and history, so my ideology is more than taxes are theft and all government action is tyranny. About a 10-12 years ago, I joked that one night I went to bed as a center-right libertarian and woke up a center-left libertarian, without any of my positions really changing.

The best summary of my views is that liberty is a balancing point, a fulcrum between tyranny and anarchy (what Hamilton would have called license). Sometimes you need more regulation, sometimes you need less; but ultimately it comes down to balancing equities.

You’re a reasonable person with a philosophical viewpoint seemingly aligned with what at times has been called ‘Libertarian’. To me, the current ‘libertarians’ are represented by NM’s former governor: ‘What’s a Leppo?’ Johnson.

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KGxvi  May 17, 2018 • 12:45:11pm

re: #414 wrenchwench

You’re a reasonable person with a philosophical viewpoint seemingly aligned with what at times has been called ‘Libertarian’. To me, the current ‘libertarians’ are represented by NM’s former governor: ‘What’s a Leppo?’ Johnson.

There’s a big difference between “Libertarians” (meaning members of the Libertarian Party) and “libertarians” (those with an actual coherent political philosophy that fits the modern world).

As for those conservatives who suddenly become libertarians when the “Republican” or “conservative” become bad words - fuck them. They’re not actually libertarians because most of them don’t actually believe people should be able to organize their lives as they see fit (just ask them where they stand on gay marriage or abortion).

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BeachDem  May 17, 2018 • 12:45:16pm

re: #411 Sir John Barron

Yeah he’s really disappointed me.

I’m not disappointed, as my expectations were always low.

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Scottish Dragon  May 17, 2018 • 12:48:22pm

re: #400 allegro

Trend I’m noticing… 3 times in the past week from conservative friends, they now (for the first time I’ve heard) describe themselves as not conservatives, but conservative/libertarian, emphasis and insistence on the libertarian part. They don’t know each other so it isn’t a group thing. This indicates to me that the term “conservative” is becoming quite toxic.

I’ve had the same conversation with all three. I claim that Trump IS the current republican party and the flagship of what the party has devolved into. They all insist that no, he isn’t - he’s a usurper, not a “real” republican, and not representative of the party. I ask then why is the republican party protecting so vehemently his open and egregious corruption since with control of both houses of Congress they could take him out yesterday. They say the party can’t do that. I ask why. They say because it would destroy the party. I submit that this alone proves the factual nature of my claim. They change the subject after a sputter or two.

They have further acknowledged the truth of my claim (by this, I mean the truth in their eyes finally - we here already know it) when I give them the “out” by saying that many republicans I know have left the party and become independents. They all brightened up and said “yes! I’m pretty much there, too.”

Take it for what it’s worth, but I see this as progress and a good reason to keep talking to our conservative… um, libertarian… friends and family members. The more sane ones anyway.

The kewl kidz term in some quarters is “classical liberal” now.

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allegro  May 17, 2018 • 1:07:07pm

re: #415 KGxvi

There’s a big difference between “Libertarians” (meaning members of the Libertarian Party) and “libertarians” (those with an actual coherent political philosophy that fits the modern world).

As for those conservatives who suddenly become libertarians when the “Republican” or “conservative” become bad words - fuck them. They’re not actually libertarians because most of them don’t actually believe people should be able to organize their lives as they see fit (just ask them where they stand on gay marriage or abortion).

Those 3 friends I talked about are all entirely cool with gay marriage and reproductive rights/choice. They are also all for marijuana legalization. Those issues are however lower on their list than economic issues, i.e. taxes are everything to them it seems. All 3 have some (or perhaps considerable) wealth - earned, not inherited.

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austin_blue  May 17, 2018 • 1:28:48pm

re: #397 MsJ

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Dean has got one big ol’ head, hasn’t he?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 17, 2018 • 2:58:00pm

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