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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2018 • 2:33:34pm
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Dave In Austin  May 19, 2018 • 2:41:35pm

Smells fresh! Tastes great! That new thread feeling.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2018 • 2:52:31pm
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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2018 • 2:57:07pm
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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2018 • 2:57:27pm
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Targetpractice  May 19, 2018 • 3:01:59pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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You know, as to the undermining of an election by a foreign government, which they’re totally cool with.

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2018 • 3:02:05pm

Twitter typos suck.

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2018 • 3:28:12pm
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Skip Intro  May 19, 2018 • 3:28:17pm
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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 3:33:01pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

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Twitter typos suck.

He’s trying to spread conspiracy theories again. Before it was he really won the popular vote. Now it’s that the FBI and DOJ investigated his campaign at the behest of HRC. He’s truly an awful President who wants to punish everyone in the government who didn’t sport one of his stupid fugly MAGA hats two falls ago.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  May 19, 2018 • 3:33:18pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Damn. So true.

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BigPapa  May 19, 2018 • 3:37:16pm

re: #9 Skip Intro

In a previous life I hung with some serious pyros. We’d light a pile of flash powder and Jake the 180lb English Mastiff would come running up and jump through the cloud trying to bite. He loved firworks.

The other two mastiffs would be hiding and peeing all over themselves.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 3:38:02pm

re: #11 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Damn. So true.

I just did a purge of old cords.

It was cathartic…but there’s still plenty lying around that I haven’t resolved I don’t need anymore.

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Belafon  May 19, 2018 • 3:40:09pm

re: #10 HappyWarrior

He’s trying to spread conspiracy theories again. Before it was he really won the popular vote. Now it’s that the FBI and DOJ investigated his campaign at the behest of HRC. He’s truly an awful President who wants to punish everyone in the government who didn’t sport one of his stupid fugly MAGA hats two falls ago.

It will just be up to us to keep him from succeeding.

I hope we get a few new House committees related to investigating Trump.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 3:41:57pm

re: #14 Belafon

It will just be up to us to keep him from succeeding.

I hope we get a few new House committees related to investigating Trump.

I am dreaming of a blue wave this fall that wipes out the GOP majority in both houses for a very very long time.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 3:43:39pm

Evening Lizardim from the cold and cloudy wild north country. Spent most of my morning buried under the hood of Mrs. Fish’s Lincoln, replacing the water pump. Tomorrow’s task will be to button everything back up, fill it with coolant, and take it for a test drive to see how I did. How go things among the lizardfolk on this quiet weekend day?

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ObserverArt  May 19, 2018 • 3:45:43pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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I think Trey’s dog knows what’s up. Look at his Twitter header image. Dog is like: This guy is full of it.

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wrenchwench  May 19, 2018 • 3:48:08pm

re: #16 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Evening Lizardim from the cold and cloudy wild north country. Spent most of my morning buried under the hood of Mrs. Fish’s Lincoln, replacing the water pump. Tomorrow’s task will be to button everything back up, fill it with coolant, and take it for a test drive to see how I did. How go things among the lizardfolk on this quiet weekend day?

I guess you could say I’m fixing the cooling system on bikes. I make them go so you can catch a breeze as you move through the air. It’s hot and sunny here. Bring water for more effectiveness.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 3:48:36pm

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sagehen  May 19, 2018 • 3:52:57pm

Am I the only one who doesn’t love Meghan’s dress?

I do love the veil, and a lot of elements of the ceremony, but…

(also, I hated Victoria Beckham’s dress.)

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PhillyPretzel  May 19, 2018 • 3:56:00pm

re: #20 sagehen

It was a very nice dress but not my style.

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BigPapa  May 19, 2018 • 3:56:13pm

re: #19 The Ghost of a Flea

We’ve reached the Memepocalypse. And I’m OK with that.

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ObserverArt  May 19, 2018 • 3:56:15pm

A little Photoshop image brought on by seeing those kids getting arrested yesterday in DC. They were outside Paul Ryan’s office asking for him to put a gun control bill up for a vote. 4 were arrested by the Capitol Police.

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ObserverArt  May 19, 2018 • 3:58:28pm

re: #18 wrenchwench

I guess you could say I’m fixing the cooling system on bikes. I make them go so you can catch a breeze as you move through the air. It’s hot and sunny here. Bring water for more effectiveness.

You need to rig up some kind of small pump driven off the gears. Have it pressurize a bottle of water that makes a mister at the handle bars.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 4:01:31pm

I don’t care about the royals but cheers to Harry and Meaghan. And fuck the racist pricks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2018 • 4:08:00pm
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stpaulbear  May 19, 2018 • 4:08:36pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Trump has a lot of nerve bringing the Senate Judiciary Committee into his rant after the report that they issued last week. He knows his followers don’t even know WTF is in that report.

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wrenchwench  May 19, 2018 • 4:08:39pm

re: #24 ObserverArt

You need to rig up some kind of small pump driven off the gears. Have it pressurize a bottle of water that makes a mister at the handle bars.

I think they make those. Hand-pressurized, though.

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PhillyPretzel  May 19, 2018 • 4:08:52pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yay! :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2018 • 4:09:01pm
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plansbandc  May 19, 2018 • 4:13:42pm

re: #12 BigPapa

My little dog is not fazed in the least by fireworks no matter how loud they are. He will, however, cower in terror over a plastic bag blowing in the wind.

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Belafon  May 19, 2018 • 4:32:00pm

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dave In Austin  May 19, 2018 • 4:32:19pm
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MsJ  May 19, 2018 • 4:33:57pm

re: #9 Skip Intro

That’s irresponsible and horrible and they’re goddamned lucky their dog didn’t fucking die a horrible death.

My friend’s dog picked up an M80 tossed into their yard on July 4th one year and blew his head off.

I’d report those people if I knew who they were.

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Dave In Austin  May 19, 2018 • 4:35:33pm

re: #34 MsJ

Thanks….. That one will rest in my head for a while….

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MsJ  May 19, 2018 • 4:37:00pm

re: #20 sagehen

Am I the only one who doesn’t love Meghan’s dress?

I do love the veil, and a lot of elements of the ceremony, but…

(also, I hated Victoria Beckham’s dress.)

Megan’s dress was ok. The veil was amazing.

The gal who plays Donna on suits has a gorgeous dress.

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MsJ  May 19, 2018 • 4:38:13pm

re: #35 Dave In Austin

Thanks….. That one will rest in my head for a while….

I relived it watching that video.

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MsJ  May 19, 2018 • 4:38:33pm

Read this article.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 19, 2018 • 4:52:09pm

re: #38 MsJ

Read this article.

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The previous Republican government outed a CIA operative; so the GOP outing people is nothing new for them.

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MsJ  May 19, 2018 • 4:54:44pm

re: #39 Hecuba’s daughter

The previous Republican government outed a CIA operative; so the GOP outing people is nothing new for them.

That’s true. I keep forgetting about Plame.

I’m disgusted beyond words.

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meteor  May 19, 2018 • 4:54:54pm
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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 4:56:25pm

re: #40 MsJ

That’s true. I keep forgetting about Plame.

I’m disgusted beyond words.

They’re such a disgusting party.

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MsJ  May 19, 2018 • 4:57:16pm

Megan Markle’s second dress for the receptions is divine. Absolutely gorgeous.

instyle.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2018 • 4:58:28pm

re: #43 MsJ

Megan Markle’s second dress for the receptions is divine. Absolutely gorgeous.

instyle.com

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 5:01:01pm

I’m happy for them. Just as I am any couple but at the same time. This really says a lot about where the Royal Family has gone the past 80 years after having Nazi sympathizers in the family during WWII. Harry and Meaghan seem like a lovely couple and I imagine should they choose to have kids together will be beautiful ones. Gotta love how British racists will be dealing with having a princess of African American heritage.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2018 • 5:05:03pm

re: #40 MsJ

That’s true. I keep forgetting about Plame.

I’m disgusted beyond words.

The CIA (analysts, not the crazy covert operations guys) had been a thorn in the side of the warmongers (GOP mainly) for 50 years. They said the “missile gap” was baloney, then built the U-2 and proved it. They debunked the “window of vulnerability” that Reagan rode to office on. They cast doubt (an understatement) on Dubya’s WMDs in Iraq bullshit. Finally the Cheney administration decided to geld the CIA and break them to the saddle once and for all—and outing Valerie Plame is how they did it. They don’t dare turn in a conclusion putting the lie to a GOP administration’s fantasies any more.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 19, 2018 • 5:07:26pm
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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 5:09:09pm

re: #47 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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I wasn’t alive for much of the Reagan presidency but those of you who did. Did the RR worship of Reagan seem just as pathetic as the Trump RR is now? Trump really is on paper anyhow the person that the RR would hate the most. It just goes to show you how cynical the RR leaders are that they’ve fully embraced Trump.

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Eventual Carrion  May 19, 2018 • 5:11:52pm

re: #47 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Then their god is a fucking prick too

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jaunte  May 19, 2018 • 5:12:35pm

re: #48 HappyWarrior

It’s worse now.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 5:14:19pm

re: #50 jaunte

It’s worse now.

I thought so too because the RR actually did criticize Reagan albeit for the wrong reasons when appointing Sandra Day O’Connor to SCOTUS but they were willing to criticize him. Falwell Jr, Graham, Jeffress, and all these clowns worship Trump as a second coming.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 5:14:55pm

re: #48 HappyWarrior

I wasn’t alive for much of the Reagan presidency but those of you who did. Did the RR worship of Reagan seem just as pathetic as the Trump RR is now? Trump really is on paper anyhow the person that the RR would hate the most. It just goes to show you how cynical the RR leaders are that they’ve fully embraced Trump.

It’s more that they’ve become so corrupt, so protective of power, that they back the Republican horse no matter how corrupt or vile he is because they reward that loyalty with favors. They know that supporting Democrats would only get them chastised for their hypocrisy.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 5:15:06pm

Been having fun having my niece back. We watched Peter Rabbit last night. Totally different than the original children’s books but fun. She has a lot of joy and so many questions.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2018 • 5:15:06pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

I’m happy for them. Just as I am any couple but at the same time. This really says a lot about where the Royal Family has gone the past 80 years after having Nazi sympathizers in the family during WWII. Harry and Meaghan seem like a lovely couple and I imagine should they choose to have kids together will be beautiful ones. Gotta love how British racists will be dealing with having a princess of African American heritage.

At least they probably won’t come out green.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 5:15:46pm

re: #54 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

At least they probably won’t come out green.

Ha.

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MsJ  May 19, 2018 • 5:19:01pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

I see why she chose a bateau (boat neck) wedding dress. Her shoulders are perfect.

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2018 • 5:19:29pm

re: #50 jaunte

It’s worse now.

There wasn’t the rancid Fox “News” or Rush Limbaugh back then.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 5:24:59pm

re: #57 Skip Intro

There wasn’t the rancid Fox “News” or Rush Limbaugh back then.

Yep, that’s very true. I don’t think it’s cynical of me to believe this but I believe Nixon would have had a much better chance at surviving Watergate had those been around in the 70’s.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 19, 2018 • 5:25:10pm

re: #57 Skip Intro

There wasn’t the rancid Fox “News” or Rush Limbaugh back then.

It took the Clinton administration for the RW to start unleashing their attack dogs. Before then, there were really just a few RW newspapers such as the WSJ, but not the incessant attacks that developed when a Democrat actually took office.

—minor edit

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 19, 2018 • 5:27:34pm

Looks like I’ll soon know if I will keep waiting for the new car next year or not.

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2018 • 5:27:57pm

re: #59 Hecuba’s daughter

Limbaugh was a big part of creating the myth of Reagan, even though he never voted for him, or anyone else, back then.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2018 • 5:28:11pm
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jaunte  May 19, 2018 • 5:28:36pm

re: #60 GlutenFreeJesus

He needs to make an E-150 pickup.

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2018 • 5:30:14pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump didn’t write that. No crazy capitalization.

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jaunte  May 19, 2018 • 5:31:37pm

re: #64 Skip Intro

Has Trump ever used the word “conclusive?”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2018 • 5:31:41pm

re: #64 Skip Intro

Trump didn’t write that. No crazy capitalization.

You can’t tell by it being on iOS instead of Android any more?

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jaunte  May 19, 2018 • 5:31:45pm
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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 5:31:49pm
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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 5:32:13pm

re: #61 Skip Intro

Limbaugh was a big part of creating the myth of Reagan, even though he never voted for him, or anyone else, back then.

The Reagan Myth is one myth I’d love to see taken down in my lifetime. He simply was not a good President. And I have to say as bad as he was, I actually think Nixon was a better President.

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 5:32:29pm

re: #65 jaunte

A Twitter search yields only today’s tweet.

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2018 • 5:32:50pm

re: #65 jaunte

Has Trump ever used the word “conclusive?”

No, and he said “another campaign” instead of “Crooked Hillary”. Doesn’t have the Trump DNA.

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 5:33:58pm

re: #66 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

You can’t tell by it being on iOS instead of Android any more?

You can tell using Tweetdeck. Secret Service probably made him get rid of his personal Android, he’s hasn’t tweeted with that device in ages, it’s always an iPhone.

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2018 • 5:34:32pm

re: #69 HappyWarrior

The Reagan Myth is one myth I’d love to see taken down in my lifetime.

I’d set my expectations a little lower if I were you.

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2018 • 5:35:43pm
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freetoken  May 19, 2018 • 5:35:51pm

re: #67 jaunte

Pretty impressive river of molten glass.

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2018 • 5:36:01pm

re: #70 teleskiguy

A Twitter search yields only today’s tweet.

Today is Golf Day where he cheats at golf and has a good laugh about all the kids killed this week.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 5:36:10pm

re: #73 Skip Intro

I’d set my expectations a little lower if I were you.

True. But a new generation of historians can change a president’s perception. Just look at how Truman was viewed (negatively) and is now (positively.). But I do hear ya, the Reagan mythos is big.

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freetoken  May 19, 2018 • 5:38:20pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

The Reagan worship will die down once the post-Trump disaster really gets felt.

Myths are hard to die, though. Some myths linger on and on and on…

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ObserverArt  May 19, 2018 • 5:38:46pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

I’m happy for them. Just as I am any couple but at the same time. This really says a lot about where the Royal Family has gone the past 80 years after having Nazi sympathizers in the family during WWII. Harry and Meaghan seem like a lovely couple and I imagine should they choose to have kids together will be beautiful ones. Gotta love how British racists will be dealing with having a princess of African American heritage.

Racists worldwide are having to deal with it. If it makes some of them think differently that is good.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 5:40:20pm

re: #78 freetoken

The Reagan worship will die down once the post-Trump disaster really gets felt.

Myths are hard to die, though. Some myths linger on and on and on…

My thought was that the Reagan worship would start to deny once we get a new generation of historians writing the history but that’s part of what you’re getting at. I think more historians with more diverse backgrounds rather than a bunch of white guys will help play a role in changing the Reagan historiography.

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 5:41:11pm
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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 5:41:28pm

re: #79 ObserverArt

Racists worldwide are having to deal with it. If it makes some of them think differently that is good.

Can only hope.

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lawhawk  May 19, 2018 • 5:41:57pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Nope. Not just you. Last year I started to cull that box of cables. It included RS-232s.

Our county had a recycling program that took in old electronics and cables. So, I still have a box, just slightly more current in contents.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 5:43:31pm

re: #81 teleskiguy

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You know that does speak to something that does frustrate me about the right. They are capable of seeing the human side of an issue but it too often takes when they’re out of office to see it. A big example would be how many prominent out of office Republicans acknowledge that SSM does not hurt society. Now, I can understand a change of heart but for too many of these men and women, it feels awfully cynical and self serving to me.

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2018 • 5:45:32pm

re: #83 lawhawk

Nope. Not just you. Last year I started to cull that box of cables. It included RS-232s.

Our county had a recycling program that took in old electronics and cables. So, I still have a box, just slightly more current in contents.

RS-232 cables might come in handy some day. You never know. That’s why I’m still hoarding my SCSI cables.

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lawhawk  May 19, 2018 • 5:45:38pm

Toxic worldviews have catastrophic consequences.

At the extreme of misogyny, you’ve got incel craziness.

It’s insane.

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 5:46:00pm

Great news! Time to celebrate!

Giphy

Oh wait, celebrated too soon.

Her feed is full-blown whack-a-loon!

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2018 • 5:47:36pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

RS-232 cables might come in handy some day. You never know. That’s why I’m still hoarding my SCSI cables.

SCSI cables have these comically huge plastic housings around the connectors. Ah, good times.

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2018 • 5:47:57pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

RS-232 cables might come in handy some day. You never know. That’s why I’m still hoarding my SCSI cables.

I’ve still got an Adaptec SCSI card around here somewhere. You just never know when you might need to connect a Bernoulli Box to retrieve an old backup.

Of course someone would need to write the drivers to make it work, but I’m going to hold on to it.

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freetoken  May 19, 2018 • 5:48:09pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

In the slide down our dystopia, RS-232 cables will become very very useful as the last few computers in use are a couple of IBM PCs found in a derelict museum in Peoria, Illinois.

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Dave In Austin  May 19, 2018 • 5:48:51pm

Check this out…..

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 5:49:15pm

re: #89 Skip Intro

I’ve still got an Adaptec SCSI card around here somewhere. You just never know when you might need to connect a Bernoulli Box to retrieve an old backup.

Of course someone would need to write the drivers to make it work, but I’m going to hold on to it.

I’ve got some hardware experience. There’s got to be a spec for it somewhere.

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lawhawk  May 19, 2018 • 5:50:23pm

re: #90 freetoken

In the slide down our dystopia, RS-232 cables will become very very useful as the last few computers in use are a couple of IBM PCs found in a derelict museum in Peoria, Illinois.

That’s when knowing fortran and how to use punch cards will come in handy.

And running data from casettee tapes and reel to reels.

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2018 • 5:51:02pm

re: #90 freetoken

In the slide down our dystopia, RS-232 cables will become very very useful as the last few computers in use are a couple of IBM PCs found in a derelict museum in Peoria, Illinois.

Unfortunately, a lot of those early devices weren’t really built to last, either. Blown power supplies will be the final factor that destroys the human race.

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2018 • 5:51:41pm

re: #93 lawhawk

That’s when knowing fortran and how to use punch cards will come in handy.

And running data from casettee tapes and reel to reels.

Real programmers flip switches.

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lawhawk  May 19, 2018 • 5:52:31pm

re: #95 Skip Intro

Real programmers flip switches.

Real programmers know how to replace vacuum tubes.

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steve_davis  May 19, 2018 • 5:52:47pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

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awwww! the sweet eyes. the fu manchu mustache…..

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2018 • 5:53:38pm

re: #96 lawhawk

Real programmers know how to replace vacuum tubes.

My dad knew how to make vacuum tubes.

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allegro  May 19, 2018 • 5:54:17pm

re: #97 steve_davis

awwww! the sweet eyes. the fu manchu mustache…..

… the most efficient predator on land.

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allegro  May 19, 2018 • 5:57:43pm

Back to The Handmaid’s Tale. Just finished the first season. Freaked out, kinda drained, but compelled to continue to season 2.

A couple of years ago I could have watched this and not been chilled to the bone wondering if I’m watching a future documentary.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 5:57:53pm

re: #96 lawhawk

Real programmers know how to replace vacuum tubes.

Real programmers manipulate the inodes by hand with magnetic needles.

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ObserverArt  May 19, 2018 • 5:58:40pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

SCSI cables have these comically huge plastic housings around the connectors. Ah, good times.

I had Windows systems with SCSI cards. I had to communicate with some graphic art equipment back with a Windows 95 setup. I was very glad once USB came around. Damn cables were expensive and sometimes problematic with all those fine pins.

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 5:59:06pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 5:59:55pm

re: #102 ObserverArt

I had Windows systems with SCSI cards. I had to communicate with some graphic art equipment back with a Windows 95 setup. I was very glad once USB came around. Damn cables were expensive and sometimes problematic with all those fine pins.

I never had the fortune of using a SCSI interface. I did have a tape drive once upon a time - a small-capacity unit that I only used for the lolz. More ancient was the Atari 2600 my dad had when I was a kid that used audio cassettes for its save games.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 6:00:51pm

re: #103 teleskiguy

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But it’s the Godlessness. //

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 6:01:13pm

Need to brush up on my cuneiform skillz.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 19, 2018 • 6:01:30pm

re: #101 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Real programmers manipulate the inodes by hand with magnetic needles.

You must have heard the old joke:

How many computer programmers does it take to change a light bulb?

None.

It’s a hardware problem!

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jaunte  May 19, 2018 • 6:03:45pm

re: #86 lawhawk

My daughter is now afraid to send my granddaughter to public school, in small-town Texas.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 6:04:19pm

re: #108 jaunte

My daughter is now afraid to send my granddaughter to public school, in small-town Texas.

Damn.

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jaunte  May 19, 2018 • 6:05:25pm

Given the people that support privatizing all education, this may be part of the plan.

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ObserverArt  May 19, 2018 • 6:05:51pm

re: #89 Skip Intro

I’ve still got an Adaptec SCSI card around here somewhere. You just never know when you might need to connect a Bernoulli Box to retrieve an old backup.

Of course someone would need to write the drivers to make it work, but I’m going to hold on to it.

My Adaptec card never made it past Y2K. Damn thing had chips on it that failed the date change.

I had SyQuest Discs.

Compared to today, those things were Flintstones tech. But print files could be big back then. And 44 and 88 meg disks were huge!

Heh.

I still have a bunch of Zip disks. No need for it ‘em anymore. I think I can get Windows 10 drivers for the USB drive I have.

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2018 • 6:06:59pm

re: #104 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I never had the fortune of using a SCSI interface. I did have a tape drive once upon a time - a small-capacity unit that I only used for the lolz. More ancient was the Atari 2600 my dad had when I was a kid that used audio cassettes for its save games.

I still have a cassette recorder for an Atari 400 computer somewhere around here. Maybe even some games and Atari Basic programs on cassette.

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steve_davis  May 19, 2018 • 6:08:09pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

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charles, find us something rare and awesome by roy buchanan. (pretty much everything he does with the ‘53 telecaster is awesome, but use your connections to find us some rare footage of something).

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 19, 2018 • 6:08:51pm

re: #110 jaunte

Given the people that support privatizing all education, this may be part of the plan.

I keep thinking this is part of it too. Been seeing on FB lately: “Another shooting? Maybe its time to think about home schooling”… (and they’re all Trump supporters thinking this)

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 6:12:17pm

Look at the size of this doobie floating in the sky!

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steve_davis  May 19, 2018 • 6:12:41pm

re: #99 allegro

… the most efficient predator on land.

the eyes are saying, “I smell hamburgering going on back there. Is my cheeseburger maybe in the bottom of the bag, under your fries?”

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Stanley Sea  May 19, 2018 • 6:13:31pm

re: #91 Dave In Austin

Check this out…..

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Mountain lions??? Nah

Lynx? ?

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Eventual Carrion  May 19, 2018 • 6:14:21pm

re: #115 teleskiguy

Look at the size of this doobie floating in the sky!

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Big, BIg, BIG Bambu

Edit: Spelling

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Belafon  May 19, 2018 • 6:14:38pm

re: #96 lawhawk

Real programmers know how to replace vacuum tubes.

Real programmers know how to swap wound iron cores.

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allegro  May 19, 2018 • 6:15:08pm

re: #117 Stanley Sea

Mountain lions???

Bobcats

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 19, 2018 • 6:15:12pm

re: #117 Stanley Sea

Mountain lions???

Bobcats I think.

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 6:16:04pm

re: #117 Stanley Sea

They’re bobcats. Only wild cat with a naturally bobbed tail.

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2018 • 6:19:45pm
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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 6:21:58pm

re: #123 Skip Intro

I’ll work for you for free. My fee is $20/hr.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 19, 2018 • 6:23:59pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 19, 2018 • 6:24:05pm

re: #114 GlutenFreeJesus

I keep thinking this is part of it too. Been seeing on FB lately: “Another shooting? Maybe its time to think about home schooling”… (and they’re all Trump supporters thinking this)

How does home-schooling work? Does it assume that the mother is home all day? I know that they have special programs that you can order to instruct a child but that’s not the same as a teacher who actually knows the material and is able to respond to questions. I know this is all a plot to limit children’s development so that they can not really think for themselves but regurgitate fundamentalist propaganda.

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ObserverArt  May 19, 2018 • 6:24:19pm

re: #120 allegro

Bobcats

Ohio has gotten quite the Bobcat population going again. I heard the other day people are worried about the numbers in parts of hilly southern Ohio. They were just removed from Ohio’s endangered species lists a few years ago.

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2018 • 6:24:29pm

re: #124 teleskiguy

I’ll work for you for free. My fee is $20/hr.

Hired! That beats $20 per pound for sure.

Do you deliver to California?

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 6:25:47pm

re: #128 Skip Intro

Hired! That beats $20 per pound for sure.

Do you deliver to California?

That’s an awful long walk from western Colorado.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 6:26:42pm

re: #126 Hecuba’s daughter

How does home-schooling work? Does it assume that the mother is home all day? I know that they have special programs that you can order to instruct a child but that’s not the same as a teacher who actually knows the material and is able to respond to questions. I know this is all a plot to limit children’s development so that they can not really think for themselves but regurgitate fundamentalist propaganda.

That is the basis of homeschooling, yeah. It caters to the “traditional family” where the mother stays home and schools the kids with religious fundamentalist dogma while the father goes to work and earns a living. Homeschooling nearly wrecked Mrs. Fish’s life and she’s still dreadfully under-educated compared to most publicly schooled people of her age. It’s designed to be a nuclear option for people who really, REALLY don’t want their kids having any exposure to reality.

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LadyBehir  May 19, 2018 • 6:26:59pm

Coleco. Adam. Do I win?

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lawhawk  May 19, 2018 • 6:27:30pm

re: #131 LadyBehir

TRS 80 Mod 3.

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2018 • 6:27:46pm

re: #129 teleskiguy

Just don’t let the ice cream melt, ok?

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MsJ  May 19, 2018 • 6:28:45pm

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

OMG!! That little thing is adorable!!! ❤️❤️❤️

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 6:28:59pm

re: #130 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh, and yes, you’re correct - I have quite a bee in my bonnet about homeschooling. Most of my religious wingnut church friends were homeschooled. At times I was envious of them - I didn’t have an easy time in public school - but even as deeply indoctrinated as I was at the time, I could see how it was harmful to them. Also, the fact that being publicly schooled made me an outcast among them really rubbed me the wrong way. The only woman I ever wanted to punch in my life was a home-schooling quiverfull mother who dared to make disparaging remarks at my mother for stopping after only two kids, and for putting us into public school.

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LadyBehir  May 19, 2018 • 6:30:48pm

Oh, I forgot about the Trash 80! Was that the Sinclair kit one?

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2018 • 6:32:03pm
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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 6:32:54pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

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lawhawk  May 19, 2018 • 6:34:20pm

re: #138 teleskiguy

Duke Bagel and Beer of Gams.

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 6:35:41pm

re: #138 teleskiguy

BTW, I didn’t really have whiskey for breakfast, I had some street tacos with egg.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 6:38:17pm

re: #140 teleskiguy

BTW, I didn’t really have whiskey for breakfast, I had some street tacos with egg.

You’d still be doing better than me. I didn’t eat until dinner tonight. I got entirely too involved in the process of replacing the water pump on the big brown Lincoln.

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Charles Johnson  May 19, 2018 • 6:40:02pm

Some people on Twitter get upset if you diss a royal wedding. Who knew?

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freetoken  May 19, 2018 • 6:40:35pm

re: #137 Charles Johnson

You’re the Duke of Digital, the Baron of Blogs.

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The Major  May 19, 2018 • 6:42:04pm

re: #93 lawhawk

That’s when knowing fortran and how to use punch cards will come in handy.

I remember how to program drum cards for IBM Model 023 punch card machines.

Good times.

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whitebeach  May 19, 2018 • 6:45:31pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

Some people on Twitter get upset if you diss a royal wedding. Who knew?

What royal wedding?

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The Major  May 19, 2018 • 6:46:18pm

re: #107 Hecuba’s daughter

Q: How many field engineers does it take to change a flat tire?
A: 5 - one to change the flat and 4 to hold up each side of the car.

Q: How long does it take to change the flat tire?
A: it’s indeterminant - depends on how many flats the field engineers brought with them.

Q: What if you have two flat tires?
A: Then the field engineers change your radiator.

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freetoken  May 19, 2018 • 6:46:52pm

re: #145 whitebeach

What royal wedding?

And here I thought I was the hermit.

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The Major  May 19, 2018 • 6:48:46pm

re: #112 Charles Johnson

I still have a cassette recorder for an Atari 400 computer somewhere around here. Maybe even some games and Atari Basic programs on cassette.

I remember seeing you back in the mid-1980s in Metro Detroit at an Atari ST show in Southfield when you were doing your CodeHead gig.
I even remember your blinking eye when you click on the “About” dialog box on some piece of code you were flogging.

Admit it - you got a boatload of MIDI cables….

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Varek Raith  May 19, 2018 • 6:50:22pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

Heh, I’ve been keeping my mouth shut about all this.

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Dave In Austin  May 19, 2018 • 6:52:29pm

re: #117 Stanley Sea

Lynx……

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 6:52:38pm

Lord Leftover-Thaifood of Lips?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 19, 2018 • 6:54:35pm

re: #147 freetoken

And here I thought I was the hermit.

“Alex, you know the best thing about having all these televisions? If anything important happens, anywhere in the world, any time day or night - you can always change the channel.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 19, 2018 • 6:55:27pm

re: #145 whitebeach

What royal wedding?

If Fred Astaire doesn’t dance across the ceiling, then it’s not a Royal Wedding I’m gonna watch.

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whitebeach  May 19, 2018 • 6:55:55pm

re: #140 teleskiguy

BTW, I didn’t really have whiskey for breakfast, I had some street tacos with egg.

Sad, but at least you came clean about it.

My breakfast nearly every morning, usually before eight, is chocolate Boost (a protein/vitamin drink for olds, similar to Ensure etc.) on the rocks with about two and a half ounces of Bacardi Gold (because Puerto Rico).

In a possibly related development, I don’t have a favorite body part, as they seem to be all continually letting me down in one way or another.

This makes it hard to come up with a royal name fitting the rules stated above. Maybe Lord Boostrum de Cay?

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 6:59:14pm

Thing about the people pushing homeschooling is they don’t want homeschooling, they want really tiny madrassas that get funding through vouchers.

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Eventual Carrion  May 19, 2018 • 6:59:18pm

re: #132 lawhawk

TRS 80 Mod 3.

TI-99A

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 7:00:00pm

re: #156 Eventual Carrion

TI-99A

My first hacking was done on an Apple IIe in my elementary school’s library.

10 PRINT “My best friend is fat”
20 GOTO 10

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The Major  May 19, 2018 • 7:02:01pm

re: #156 Eventual Carrion

TI-99A

KNJEpdLgF1eBxJ/QENueQfPauAmh1/dFrq/DGzQSWp5BOWl6R+FEU4zDmTRVjY+MEeG0uQ9CohdqBjig3TDbo/pmiNT6N9/cegvCYVBrLiUjOg5VjPT5paPFaF6W+ADkHqOIqsL+omcFtf1C/mdIN95pQ8fezxG4VSppfGq5twWeLeguDVo/HxM7+04syaNDGKrkwbZQ7jGLbGIXZbxJaQ==

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jaunte  May 19, 2018 • 7:02:23pm

Wang 380

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 19, 2018 • 7:02:27pm

re: #153 Blind Frog Belly White

If Fred Astaire doesn’t dance across the ceiling, then it’s not a Royal Wedding I’m gonna watch.

I will say, however, that Meghan Markle’s new title sounds really odd - Duchess of Sussex

Say that 5 times, fast.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 7:03:04pm

re: #158 The Major

7R2l+D37S7R15F+Tuz+wC2hACl4LyhnRQ8LU+AcHiJeBkWYNiNRKx/CFIGjWrB/Dt+2GotBEez7tRmf2qv0qygFU8S5w4e4RC40mArUU60aVPNPtHBRoz/RABHCQRCs6IgZxD4AO3W4oaaSplOQFJvBY1cGUfY6itS6p+h3fre+HT7CaiXPtCdR7vmulVxM2+vbVJm1Oomw=

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makeitstop  May 19, 2018 • 7:05:07pm

TS1000!

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The Major  May 19, 2018 • 7:05:10pm

re: #161 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

nwPBnh3bQlCml87svmop6LTSLIHqQja5jEfldf82Px4YClWbBDhAFcgU/e4Fq9UehGXVkAPM6Yu++lYEQVo0YcLZt+6D7yrExWoJwhQENDjEbHpjItpU5847SvdWCyM/Epabbscdf5I6/acuMxetXCrYTTsXmB8qG0HkVqsO832FxKYL7e9A1VD+FSsiN4wj

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 7:06:10pm

They do seem like nice people but I’m as perplexed as many are about our fascination with them.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 7:06:16pm

re: #163 The Major

PwGY59gvwap4rin6HZrPPzkDjB5qGW1b6cbograJTCih6epq8UlKH3URnETtmdfNu6WvS2+EMKpCMNyIC7zEA/6T0qrCjBpDs+JpffBOXwNhkWHJcX7rLAf0gofSMahHBY2fFGvuREOubm1bzR9LJt8nI5iXaI1BOZFqiu8D93U2xVZWmyEiCaOVo0odYl1+kr1vNwoNXY+B+Ebme38QA76r3SeE8GQh6GW3qZmKqwMvBcOqKotle6zUxSTVf8ohTygpCEue04mNwbaeQBcXF40/tRZocfcIbHha6qRLyGldyoulfWHfXOSRQjkgN9Yxv9mEDJMSDDk=

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The Major  May 19, 2018 • 7:08:09pm

re: #165 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Now that’s just cruel. (grin)

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scottslemmons  May 19, 2018 • 7:08:15pm

Can I just say I think it’s really weird that Trump hasn’t been ordering marble statues of himself or having someone rewrite the National Anthem to include his name? He really seems the type, doesn’t he? Does he have more self-control than I think, or is it just a matter of Sean Hannity not telling him to do it yet?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 7:08:38pm

re: #164 HappyWarrior

They do seem like nice people but I’m as perplexed as many are about our fascination with them.

Honestly, most of it seems to be a fascination with a different perspective. Americans don’t have royalty. Even our “elites” are just rich snobbish assholes; they’re not generally hereditary lines. The idea of British royalty, the long history of the royal family, the throwbacks to a bygone age.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 7:10:07pm

re: #166 The Major

Now that’s just cruel. (grin)

That was nothing compared to when I went to college. You learned REAL quick to lock your terminal before leaving the computer lab. Otherwise, your next login shell might begin outputting random garbage - or, as I did once to an unfortunate colleague who suffered from a lapse in security diligence, beeping incessantly because it echoed the ASCII “bell” character to the terminal in an infinite loop…

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 7:13:23pm

re: #168 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Honestly, most of it seems to be a fascination with a different perspective. Americans don’t have royalty. Even our “elites” are just rich snobbish assholes; they’re not generally hereditary lines. The idea of British royalty, the long history of the royal family, the throwbacks to a bygone age.

Yeah I guess that’s why and I guess why we choose to get fascinated by the Brits is our shared language and history with them. It was funny seeing my grandmother and sister in law, who are pretty different in many ways absolutely agreeing about their indifference to the Royals.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2018 • 7:14:12pm

re: #164 HappyWarrior

They do seem like nice people but I’m as perplexed as many are about our fascination with them.

They’re Britain’s version of the Obama family. Representing a relatively young, hopeful optimism for the future, actively taking steps to try and move things that direction, and in general not being garbage people, for the most part.

That’s without getting into the whole fairy tale aspect too.

I don’t really care if other people aren’t into it, but sometimes I wish we as a society were better about not shitting all over other people for being happy about something.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 7:16:01pm

re: #170 HappyWarrior

Yeah I guess that’s why and I guess why we choose to get fascinated by the Brits is our shared language and history with them. It was funny seeing my grandmother and sister in law, who are pretty different in many ways absolutely agreeing about their indifference to the Royals.

Yeah, there’s that too. Britain holds a special place in our hearts because of our commonality. Even though large swathes of this country were historically French and Spanish, it’s the British that we identify with, because colonies and Revolution and the English language.

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whitebeach  May 19, 2018 • 7:16:57pm

re: #169 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That was nothing compared to when I went to college. You learned REAL quick to lock your terminal before leaving the computer lab. Otherwise, your next login shell might begin outputting random garbage - or, as I did once to an unfortunate colleague who suffered from a lapse in security diligence, beeping incessantly because it echoed the ASCII “bell” character to the terminal in an infinite loop…

And yet some people claim that geeks lack humor.

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Cheechako  May 19, 2018 • 7:17:07pm

I’m so old I can remember removing a couple of beads from the laboratory abacus.

Also, did I mention moving the slide on the lab slide rule a 1/4 inch to the left?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 7:18:01pm

re: #173 whitebeach

And yet some people claim that geeks lack humor.

Heh. Geeks are the funniest people I know. Of course, I am one, so I get their humor.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 7:18:35pm

re: #171 klys (maker of Silmarils)

They’re Britain’s version of the Obama family. Representing a relatively young, hopeful optimism for the future, actively taking steps to try and move things that direction, and in general not being garbage people, for the most part.

That’s without getting into the whole fairy tale aspect too.

I don’t really care if other people aren’t into it, but sometimes I wish we as a society were better about not shitting all over other people for being happy about something.

Oh yeah absolutely. They do seem like a genuinely happy couple and I agree with you about the optimism. What I meant was the fascinating with the Windors as a whole not merely Meaghan and Harry.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 7:20:16pm

re: #172 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Yeah, there’s that too. Britain holds a special place in our hearts because of our commonality. Even though large swathes of this country were historically French and Spanish, it’s the British that we identify with, because colonies and Revolution and the English language.

I honestly never felt that having virtually no British heritage but I do understand it since as Churchill did say, we’re two people separated by a common language. That’s probably why my grandmother and SiL feel indifference. Grandma’s parents were from the former Austrian-Hungarian empire and my SiL’s from Peru.

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The Major  May 19, 2018 • 7:20:58pm

re: #174 Cheechako

Also, did I mention moving the slide on the lab slide rule a 1/4 inch to the left?

How many here still have a slide rule? I still have my Pickett….

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 7:21:26pm

I like Harry more than I do his brother. Harry I dunno just seems more like a regular guy that you could have a pint with. They’re both good guys though and I know their mother would be proud of the men they’ve become.

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ObserverArt  May 19, 2018 • 7:21:39pm

re: #168 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Honestly, most of it seems to be a fascination with a different perspective. Americans don’t have royalty. Even our “elites” are just rich snobbish assholes; they’re not generally hereditary lines. The idea of British royalty, the long history of the royal family, the throwbacks to a bygone age.

Our royalty is the Kennedy and Bush families. About as close as we get.

Well, there are The Kardashians.

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wheat-dogg  May 19, 2018 • 7:24:07pm

re: #176 HappyWarrior

Oh yeah absolutely. They do seem like a genuinely happy couple and I agree with you about the optimism. What I meant was the fascinating with the Windors as a whole not merely Meaghan and Harry.

The Queen’s longevity may be one reason. Her family was in the press during WWII, when she and Margaret were still in school. She’s ruled since she was a teenager, and people have watched her children, grandchildren and now great-grandchildren grow up. She took to the new medium of television to make the royals less remote and isolated from everyday Brits. Her response to the death of Diana was a Big Fail, but people seem to have forgiven her for it.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 7:24:34pm

This is something I admit as a White American I never gave much thought but it’s a good point.
washingtonpost.com

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 7:25:13pm

re: #179 HappyWarrior

I like Harry more than I do his brother. Harry I dunno just seems more like a regular guy that you could have a pint with. They’re both good guys though and I know their mother would be proud of the men they’ve become.

That’s probably due to the fact that Harry, as the second-born son of Diana, is the designated playboy of the family. William is the crown prince after Charles is out of the way, so he has to be more solemn and somber and worthy of the mantle of the crown.

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whitebeach  May 19, 2018 • 7:25:33pm

I just saw the first firefly of summer. Don’t get technical about the date. It was 95 here yesterday.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 7:25:44pm

re: #181 wheat-dogg

The Queen’s longevity may be one reason. Her family was in the press during WWII, when she and Margaret were still in primary school. She’s ruled since she was a teenager, and people have watched her children, grandchildren and now great-grandchildren grow up. She took to the new medium of television to make the royals less remote and isolated from everyday Brits. Her response to the death of Diana was a Big Fail, but people seem to have forgiven her for it.

Yeah I think that’s definitely part of it as well. For many people, Elizabeth is the only British monarch they’ve ever known and you’re right. I remember Harry and William as little boys and I honestly saw a slight resemblance between Diana and my own mom as a boy.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 7:26:23pm

re: #185 HappyWarrior

Yeah I think that’s definitely part of it as well. For many people, Elizabeth is the only British monarch they’ve ever known and you’re right. I remember Harry and William as little boys and I honestly saw a slight resemblance between Diana and my own mom as a boy.

I mean, ferchrissakes, I was born halfway through Elizabeth’s reign. I remember (very very vaguely) when Diana died. It was big news.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 7:26:33pm

re: #183 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That’s probably due to the fact that Harry, as the second-born son of Diana, is the designated playboy of the family. William is the crown prince after Charles is out of the way, so he has to be more solemn and somber and worthy of the mantle of the crown.

That’s probably it. Though it’s funny. His great grandfather was the more serious one and his great grandfather’s older brother was the more playboy one.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 7:26:53pm

re: #186 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I mean, ferchrissakes, I was born halfway through Elizabeth’s reign. I remember (very very vaguely) when Diana died. It was big news.

Yep I remember that too.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 7:26:54pm

We’re also four generations into the Windsors working very hard on impression management and a purposefully-created image.

And credit where it’s due—Diana was exceptionally good at coming across as relatable, human, but also dignified, which shift the paradigm of how royalty should act (compared to the deliberate refinement of Elizabeth, starting all the way back in WW2) and played a large part in making the Windsors an international phenomenon rather than a merely British one.

Contrast that with the absolute mess of E2’s kids as it turns out they had feet of clay and normal vices, but also played the traditional stick-up-ass role. William and Edward have done an excellent job of continuing what their Mum did…

….at least now that they’re settled. They used to be little shits.

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jaunte  May 19, 2018 • 7:29:35pm

One of the first times I recall seeing adults acting irrationally was related to the British royal family; Prince Philip visited Maracaibo Venezuela, and my entire school took a field trip to the airport to see him arrive. All the teachers went mad, ignoring the students they were escorting, cheering and crowding the railings. As far as I could see, he was just a tall guy in a grey suit walking across the tarmac.

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wheat-dogg  May 19, 2018 • 7:29:43pm

re: #183 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That’s probably due to the fact that Harry, as the second-born son of Diana, is the designated playboy of the family. William is the crown prince after Charles is out of the way, so he has to be more solemn and somber and worthy of the mantle of the crown.

The BBC correspondents interviewed several of invited guests who have worked with Harry and Meghan. They all said the two are just very down-to-earth people. No pretensions or snootiness. So, yeah, Harry would probably be up for a few pints and darts at the corner pub. Meghan’s probably more into hitting the clubs.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 7:29:58pm

re: #189 The Ghost of a Flea

Diana was the best thing to ever happen to the royal family. Both in her life and in her death, she brought a new popularity to the Windsors that had sort of bottomed out as people resigned themselves to the fact that Charles, stick-in-the-mud, would be the next King of England. She gave them hope that the next generation would be more with the times.

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Ace-o-aces  May 19, 2018 • 7:30:34pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 19, 2018 • 7:30:37pm

re: #176 HappyWarrior

Oh yeah absolutely. They do seem like a genuinely happy couple and I agree with you about the optimism. What I meant was the fascinating with the Windors as a whole not merely Meaghan and Harry.

My sister stayed up to watch Charles and Diana’s wedding. Me —- I didn’t even know when it was happening and didn’t care. I have never been a real fan of the British. Their treatment of China and India during the 19th century was abysmal.

Other topic: for years my prized possession was a Pickett slide rule.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 19, 2018 • 7:30:58pm

Royalty is sort of the ultimate expression of the media culture’s cult of celebrity (famous for being famous). Unlike, say, a major entertainer or sports figure, the royals did not even ask for the job. There is no escape for them: If they refused the job, they would be even more famous for that. The execrable Edward VIII and his wife, for example, were the center of European celebrity culture for decades. Tie this lack of freedom and the demanding tasks set for them to the great privilege and you have people who are massively envied and pitied at the same time.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 7:31:26pm

re: #193 Ace-o-aces

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Cajun dude is both stupid and a product of his Dad fucking a rotten crayfish.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 7:31:42pm

re: #189 The Ghost of a Flea

The other thing to consider, just inside Britain, is how George VI and Elizabeth became parts of people’s households during WW2, with their appearances, addresses, and appeals.

Celebrity in general has this weird through-a-membrane social mediation, where the “fan” feels a social connection to a famous person because the constant exposure of the latter makes them feel not just relatable, but intimate. In the case of the royals, and Elizabeth in particular, the whole nation watched a girl lose her dad, bolster her people through the biggest war yet, get married, have kids, et cetera. It’s like a supercharged version of the standard fan-celeb disproportionate bond.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 7:31:50pm

re: #194 Hecuba’s daughter

My sister stayed up to watch Charles and Diana’s wedding. Me —- I didn’t even know when it was happening and didn’t care. I have never been a real fan of the British. Their treatment of China and India during the 19th century was abysmal.

Other topic: for years my prized possession was a Pickett slide rule.

My father entrusted me with his slide rule; he is a civil engineer, and a damn good one, at that. I was honored. I learned how to use its basic functions, but at my core I am a programmer, and for more complex calculations I wind up outsourcing to other hardware than what lies between my ears.

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Ace-o-aces  May 19, 2018 • 7:31:53pm
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whitebeach  May 19, 2018 • 7:32:19pm

re: #186 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I mean, ferchrissakes, I was born halfway through Elizabeth’s reign. I remember (very very vaguely) when Diana died. It was big news.

My god, I remember Elizabeth’s coronation. They brought a TV (b&w of course) into the auditorium of the school where I was in I think the second grade so that we could all witness this historic event.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 7:33:10pm

re: #194 Hecuba’s daughter

My sister stayed up to watch Charles and Diana’s wedding. Me —- I didn’t even know when it was happening and didn’t care. I have never been a real fan of the British. Their treatment of China and India during the 19th century was abysmal.

Other topic: for years my prized possession was a Pickett slide rule.

I’m of Irish descent including those who fled the Famine. I like the British people very much and even have a couple of British cousins in law and cousins complete with British accents but yeah historically I’ve never liked their government but I don’t hold the people against it.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 7:33:49pm

re: #200 whitebeach

My god, I remember Elizabeth’s coronation. They brought a TV (b&w of course) into the auditorium of the school where I was in I think the second grade so that we could all witness this historic event.

For perspective: My parents were born after Elizabeth was crowned Queen of England. My grandparents would have seen the coronation.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 19, 2018 • 7:34:38pm

re: #48 HappyWarrior

I wasn’t alive for much of the Reagan presidency but those of you who did. Did the RR worship of Reagan seem just as pathetic as the Trump RR is now? Trump really is on paper anyhow the person that the RR would hate the most. It just goes to show you how cynical the RR leaders are that they’ve fully embraced Trump.

Happy, my aunt worshipped Reagan. She had a prayer altar in her home with his picture on it. She actually prayed to Reagan after he died. When my Dad visited her for the last time he really blew his stack when she did that…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 7:34:51pm

re: #201 HappyWarrior

I’m of Irish descent including those who fled the Famine. I like the British people very much and even have a couple of British cousins in law and cousins complete with British accents but yeah historically I’ve never liked their government but I don’t hold the people against it.

I am mostly Irish and Scotch. I appreciate the British for the country I live in today, but otherwise am indifferent. Of course, my grandfather did serve as a mechanic in a British airfield during WWII, so.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 7:34:57pm

re: #199 Ace-o-aces

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They both look beautiful. Katie on the other hand is ugly inside and out.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 19, 2018 • 7:35:17pm

re: #164 HappyWarrior

They do seem like nice people but I’m as perplexed as many are about our fascination with them.

We have been raising our daughters on fantasies about princesses and handsome princes for decades; its a Disney movie come to life.

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 7:36:06pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 19, 2018 • 7:36:22pm

re: #192 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Diana was the best thing to ever happen to the royal family. Both in her life and in her death, she brought a new popularity to the Windsors that had sort of bottomed out as people resigned themselves to the fact that Charles, stick-in-the-mud, would be the next King of England. She gave them hope that the next generation would be more with the times.

I very much sympathize with Charles. I suspect he’s On The Spectrum, and intensely private, and shy, and Diana was a really lousy match for him. And I also sympathize with having One True Love who isn’t available - there was a decade when the not-yet-Mrs. FBW and I were dating other people while maintaining a friendship, and that was painful.

He’s in a role he probably doesn’t want, that makes demands on him that he has difficulty handling, and everyone dislikes him for it.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 7:36:46pm

re: #204 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I am mostly Irish and Scotch. I appreciate the British for the country I live in today, but otherwise am indifferent. Of course, my grandfather did serve as a mechanic in a British airfield during WWII, so.

I do hate what was done in the past but I’d be a damn hypocrite to hold it against the people as a whole. I’m frigging German. I have no room to hate any ethnicity based on past or current actions. I’m fine with criticizing governments which is different but I’ll always remember the hospitality that my cousin, her husband, and her children showed me when I visited a few years back. My cousin’s daughter even let me have her bed- I was prepared to crash on the sofa.

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wheat-dogg  May 19, 2018 • 7:37:00pm

re: #189 The Ghost of a Flea

We’re also four generations into the Windsors working very hard on impression management and a purposefully-created image.

And credit where it’s due—Diana was exceptionally good at coming across as relatable, human, but also dignified, which shift the paradigm of how royalty should act (compared to the deliberate refinement of Elizabeth, starting all the way back in WW2) and played a large part in making the Windsors an international phenomenon rather than a merely British one.

Contrast that with the absolute mess of E2’s kids as it turns out they had feet of clay and normal vices, but also played the traditional stick-up-ass role. William and Edward have done an excellent job of continuing what their Mum did…

….at least now that they’re settled. They used to be little shits.

Diana did a lot to humanize the Royal Family. In many ways, she dragged them kicking and screaming into the 21st century. For one thing, though she was of the gentry, she was just a regular woman, working as a kindergarten teacher. She was not afraid to be casual and warm with people.

Elizabeth and Margaret were, like all royals of the early 20th century, products of a very cloistered childhood. Being aloof to a certain degree was baked into their personalities. (Well, maybe not Margaret so much.) Diana’s insistence that her sons attend regular schools was very wise. They grew up to be more normal, wild behavior and all.

OTOH the Queen has let her guard down a few times, like when she photobombed some teenagers taking a selfie.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 19, 2018 • 7:38:38pm

re: #210 wheat-dogg

Diana did a lot to humanize the Royal Family. In many ways, she dragged them kicking and screaming into the 21st century. For one thing, though she was of the gentry, she was just a regular woman, working as a kindergarten teacher. She was not afraid to be casual and warm with people.

Elizabeth and Margaret were, like all royals of the early 20th century, products of a very cloistered childhood. Being aloof to a certain degree was baked into their personalities. (Well, maybe not Margaret so much.) Diana’s insistence that her sons attend regular schools was very wise. They grew up to be more normal, wild behavior and all.

OTOH the Queen has let her guard down a few times, like when she photobombed some teenagers taking a selfie.

Which is funny, considering she didn’t make it that far herself.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 7:38:50pm

re: #207 teleskiguy

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While I like Led Zeppelin, I find them overrated.

Other opinion, the Hollies are underrated.

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scottslemmons  May 19, 2018 • 7:38:51pm

re: #199 Ace-o-aces

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What is she going to claim is wrong with Meghan’s dress? Oh, it’s just about the not-fully-white angle, right?

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whitebeach  May 19, 2018 • 7:39:05pm

re: #202 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

For perspective: My parents were born after Elizabeth was crowned Queen of England. My grandparents would have seen the coronation.

Is that you, Fishy? My long-lost grandson?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 19, 2018 • 7:39:24pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

True. But a new generation of historians can change a president’s perception. Just look at how Truman was viewed (negatively) and is now (positively.). But I do hear ya, the Reagan mythos is big.

Happy the major revision on Truman came when he passed away in December 1972. And just a couple days after that LBJ also passed away. I always wondered what Truman would have said if he was alive during the Watergate investigation because he hated Nixon with a passion.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 7:39:26pm

re: #208 Blind Frog Belly White

I very much sympathize with Charles. I suspect he’s On The Spectrum, and intensely private, and shy, and Diana was a really lousy match for him. And I also sympathize with having One True Love who isn’t available - there was a decade when the not-yet-Mrs. FBW and I were dating other people while maintaining a friendship, and that was painful.

He’s in a role he probably doesn’t want, that makes demands on him that he has difficulty handling, and everyone dislikes him for it.

I kinda feel the same way. I don’t really like Charles, but I think I understand him. The guy was really put in an impossible situation, and he’s managed it to the best of his ability. Of course, it’s looking more and more likely that he’ll kick off before he has to deal with it, which must be an immense relief to him.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 7:39:42pm

re: #192 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Charles got a shit deal. First generation to be constantly on film but also stuck with the old-school formalities and the shroud of decorum. An arranged marriage.

A fucking arranged marriage.

I mean, he’s a fucking oddball who wasn’t allowed to be an oddball. He fell in love with a sharp, snarky clever woman he’d never be allowed to be with and had to marry someone he barely knew for the most barbaric of reasons…because she was a virgin and young enough to give an heir and a spare.

I mean, he’s human Marmite, but it’s not like anyone of his generation made it through the meatgrinder of trying to have lives and be flawed while paparazzied constantly.

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Stanley Sea  May 19, 2018 • 7:39:48pm

re: #171 klys (maker of Silmarils)

They’re Britain’s version of the Obama family. Representing a relatively young, hopeful optimism for the future, actively taking steps to try and move things that direction, and in general not being garbage people, for the most part.

That’s without getting into the whole fairy tale aspect too.

I don’t really care if other people aren’t into it, but sometimes I wish we as a society were better about not shitting all over other people for being happy about something.

I just watched the replay on CNN. I loved it & had wet eyes at several places. One thing I didn’t see in my earlier twitter browse was the incredible cello player. The piece he played I don’t know, but it was beeeeautiful.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 7:40:33pm

re: #215 Joe Bacon 🌹

Happy the major revision on Truman came when he passed away in December 1972. And just a couple days after that LBJ also passed away. I always wondered what Truman would have said if he was alive during the Watergate investigation because he hated Nixon with a passion.

Yeah I definitely think that played a role for sure.

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jaunte  May 19, 2018 • 7:42:56pm

re: #218 Stanley Sea

I caught the choir performance of Stand By Me; that was pretty impressive.

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scottslemmons  May 19, 2018 • 7:43:44pm

re: #210 wheat-dogg

Diana did a lot to humanize the Royal Family. In many ways, she dragged them kicking and screaming into the 21st century. For one thing, though she was of the gentry, she was just a regular woman, working as a kindergarten teacher. She was not afraid to be casual and warm with people.

Elizabeth and Margaret were, like all royals of the early 20th century, products of a very cloistered childhood. Being aloof to a certain degree was baked into their personalities. (Well, maybe not Margaret so much.) Diana’s insistence that her sons attend regular schools was very wise. They grew up to be more normal, wild behavior and all.

OTOH the Queen has let her guard down a few times, like when she photobombed some teenagers taking a selfie.

Elizabeth seems like an extremely cool person. She served in the military fixing jeeps in WWII, and is apparently tech-savvy enough to run her own Twitter account. She’s had a few rough spots in her reign, but that’s probably to be expected when she’s been on the throne since the ’50s…

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wheat-dogg  May 19, 2018 • 7:43:57pm

re: #208 Blind Frog Belly White

I very much sympathize with Charles. I suspect he’s On The Spectrum, and intensely private, and shy, and Diana was a really lousy match for him. And I also sympathize with having One True Love who isn’t available - there was a decade when the not-yet-Mrs. FBW and I were dating other people while maintaining a friendship, and that was painful.

He’s in a role he probably doesn’t want, that makes demands on him that he has difficulty handling, and everyone dislikes him for it.

Charles as king will not be as soothing and grandparent-like as his mother has been. I worry that he’ll put his foot in his mouth at some future date.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 19, 2018 • 7:44:01pm

re: #216 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I kinda feel the same way. I don’t really like Charles, but I think I understand him. The guy was really put in an impossible situation, and he’s managed it to the best of his ability. Of course, it’s looking more and more likely that he’ll kick off before he has to deal with it, which must be an immense relief to him.

Why is it looking like he’ll kick off before he has to deal with it? His Grandmother died at 101, his Mom and Dad are in their 90s, and he’s not even 70.

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Stanley Sea  May 19, 2018 • 7:44:32pm

re: #182 HappyWarrior

This is something I admit as a White American I never gave much thought but it’s a good point.
washingtonpost.com

It was exceptionally honored. The Sussexes (?) will be beloved.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2018 • 7:44:45pm

re: #218 Stanley Sea

I just watched the replay on CNN. I loved it & had wet eyes at several places. One thing I didn’t see in my earlier twitter browse was the incredible cello player. The piece he played I don’t know, but it was beeeeautiful.

I have it pulled up on Youtube to watch, probably tomorrow where I can then do a double feature with Will and Kate’s wedding, because seeing happy people in love pledging that love to each other makes me happy. It will be excellent background noise for cross stitching time.

Watching the wider picture reaction though, I think there’s a bigger factor at play. Most of the people I’ve seen express the excitement about it have been women - and because it’s primarily women who are excited and interested in this, it seems a lot of people feel like it’s cool to downplay that excitement as kind of stupid.

There’s a very real discussion somewhere about why a woman’s enthusiasm for something is something to be ashamed of while it’s perfectly fine and normal for men to rattle off obscure facts about their passion of choice. (See also why being described as a “fangirl” of something is generally considered to be rather derogatory.)

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 7:45:16pm

re: #221 scottslemmons

Elizabeth seems like an extremely cool person. She served in the military fixing jeeps in WWII, and is apparently tech-savvy enough to run her own Twitter account. She’s had a few rough spots in her reign, but that’s probably to be expected when she’s been on the throne since the ’50s…

She’s also only human. The woman more or less has been underneath the public microscope for her entire life and definitely her entire adult life.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 7:45:32pm

re: #223 Blind Frog Belly White

Why is it looking like he’ll kick off before he has to deal with it? His Grandmother died at 101, his Mom and Dad are in their 90s, and he’s not even 70.

I actually thought he was older than that. It is true, the royal family seems to be lasting an awfully long time in recent generations.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 19, 2018 • 7:45:54pm

re: #220 jaunte

I caught the choir performance of Stand By Me; that was pretty impressive.

The ceremony was an interesting mix of British High Anglican and African-American Soul. I liked it!

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 7:46:28pm

I hate weddings. There, I said it.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 7:46:43pm

re: #229 teleskiguy

I hate weddings. There, I said it.

You sir suck.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 7:47:23pm

re: #229 teleskiguy

I hate weddings. There, I said it.

Weddings I can deal with. Funerals, on the other hand, I can’t abide. I volunteered to be the sound guy at a funeral last weekend. Fucking suuuuuuuuuucked. The pastor was a friend of the family, and while he was good, the emotion was real. Damn funerals.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 19, 2018 • 7:47:40pm

re: #227 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I actually thought he was older than that. It is true, the royal family seems to be lasting an awfully long time in recent generations.

Being fabulously wealthy and having access to the best medical care helps.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 7:47:49pm

You know maybe because I over analyze things but I’d never want to be a royal for the same reason I’d never want to be a President or a celebrity. I wouldn’t want the public watching my every move.

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plansbandc  May 19, 2018 • 7:47:54pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 7:48:11pm

re: #217 The Ghost of a Flea

Please note that this is not a zero-sum assessment.

Diana’s path to marrying Charles was fucking awful and barbaric and a hangover of ancient sexist/classist hangups. Like, Game of Thrones shit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 19, 2018 • 7:48:21pm

re: #233 HappyWarrior

You know maybe because I over analyze things but I’d never want to be a royal for the same reason I’d never want to be a President or a celebrity. I wouldn’t want the public watching my every move.

Watching, and commenting on, and judging.

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goddamnedfrank  May 19, 2018 • 7:48:50pm

All I want to know right now.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 7:49:36pm

re: #236 Blind Frog Belly White

Watching, and commenting on, and judging.

Exactly. Life in the giant fish bowl. No thanks.

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wheat-dogg  May 19, 2018 • 7:49:38pm

re: #226 HappyWarrior

She’s also only human. The woman more or less has been underneath the public microscope for her entire life and definitely her entire adult life.

I wouldn’t mind having a sherry with Her Majesty (unless she’s into something else) and just having a pleasant chat. I reckon she’s probably quite a nice old lady, once you get to know her. Agreeing to be part of that 007 prank to open the London Olympic hints of a wicked sense of humor.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 7:49:40pm

re: #233 HappyWarrior

You know maybe because I over analyze things but I’d never want to be a royal for the same reason I’d never want to be a President or a celebrity. I wouldn’t want the public watching my every move.

Oh, I wholeheartedly agree. Like in my discussion of Charles, the guy was literally put into an impossible position. He was, and is, the crown fucking prince of fucking England. As far as media coverage goes, there’s not a lot of positions that are higher profile aside from the Queen herself and the President of the United States. I mean, damn, even the Prime Minister gets less attention than the royal family.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 19, 2018 • 7:50:18pm

re: #237 goddamnedfrank

All I want to know right now.

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Stanley Sea  May 19, 2018 • 7:50:19pm

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Cajun dude is both stupid and a product of his Dad fucking a rotten crayfish.

Graphic. Wtg Happy! !

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2018 • 7:50:25pm

re: #239 wheat-dogg

I wouldn’t mind having a sherry with Her Majesty (unless she’s into something else) and just having a pleasant chat. I reckon she’s probably quite a nice old lady, once you get to know her. Agreeing to be part of that 007 prank to open the London Olympic hints of a wicked sense of humor.

Apparently she likes gin, which simply proves she has excellent taste. :)

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 7:50:31pm

re: #239 wheat-dogg

I wouldn’t mind having a sherry with Her Majesty (unless she’s into something else) and just having a pleasant chat. I reckon she’s probably quite a nice old lady, once you get to know her. Agreeing to be part of that 007 prank to open the London Olympic hints of a wicked sense of humor.

Oh? I missed that. You got a link? I did like seeing when she photobombed that selfie. She does seem to be a pretty sharp lady.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 7:50:39pm

re: #237 goddamnedfrank

The ninjas were just really good at disguise.

Though it was a bit strange how many Buddhist monks and rice farmers turned up for the wedding.

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jaunte  May 19, 2018 • 7:50:41pm
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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 7:50:49pm

re: #230 HappyWarrior

I’ve been to one good wedding, my older sister’s in Telluride, CO. And I didn’t really like that one, commiserating with people I haven’t seen or heard from since. I mean, it was a gorgeous affair and all.

And I’ve also been to drunken shitshow weddings where fights break out during the dinner recpetion.

I stopped going to friends’ weddings a long time ago. I get RSVPed occasionally and I politely decline and send a nice card.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 19, 2018 • 7:50:49pm

re: #131 LadyBehir

Coleco. Adam. Do I win?

I bought one of the first 128K Macintoshes. Got a good 5 years from it till the motherboard died…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 7:51:02pm

re: #239 wheat-dogg

I wouldn’t mind having a sherry with Her Majesty (unless she’s into something else) and just having a pleasant chat. I reckon she’s probably quite a nice old lady, once you get to know her. Agreeing to be part of that 007 prank to open the London Olympic hints of a wicked sense of humor.

All the evidence I’ve read points to the idea that Elizabeth Windsor is a wicked sharp old bird who is savvy, smart, and hilarious as fuck. I would die to meet her, but I’m guessing she’ll die before I have the chance.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 7:51:12pm

re: #242 Stanley Sea

Graphic. Wtg Happy! !

I’ve got no patience for racist fuckwits. :).

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 7:51:37pm

re: #231 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Weddings I can deal with. Funerals, on the other hand, I can’t abide. I volunteered to be the sound guy at a funeral last weekend. Fucking suuuuuuuuuucked. The pastor was a friend of the family, and while he was good, the emotion was real. Damn funerals.

I will not be having a funeral at my death. I will have a wake, with plenty of libations and loud music.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 7:51:55pm

re: #247 teleskiguy

I’ve been to one good wedding, my older sister’s in Telluride, CO. And I didn’t really like that one, commiserating with people I haven’t seen or heard from since. I mean, it was a gorgeous affair and all.

And I’ve also been to drunken shitshow weddings where fights break out during the dinner recpetion.

I stopped going to friends’ weddings a long time ago. I get RSVPed occasionally and I politely decline and send a nice card.

I’m just messing with ya. I understand where you’re coming from.

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wheat-dogg  May 19, 2018 • 7:52:09pm

re: #244 HappyWarrior

Oh? I missed that. You got a link? I did like seeing when she photobombed that selfie. She does seem to be a pretty sharp lady.

James Bond - London 2012 Opening Ceremony | Epic Olympic Moments

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 7:52:25pm

Ninjas are like cockroaches in your kitchen.

You don’t see them…they’re still there.

You notice one…there’s like a hundred and fifty that you haven’t noticed.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 19, 2018 • 7:53:01pm

re: #131 LadyBehir

Coleco. Adam. Do I win?

I remember buying the first model of Fidelity’s Chess Challenger in 1978. Was no challenge at all because I could checkmate it in 25 moves…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 7:53:22pm

re: #251 teleskiguy

I will not be having a funeral at my death. I will have a wake, with plenty of libations and loud music.

Right there with ya, my friend. My funeral is going to be a PAR-TAY. Especially since Mrs. Fish will be there (we already agreed that I am going to kick the bucket first). There will be wine, and women, and absolutely no mourning allowed. And ya damn well better be ready to roast me when you arrive.

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scottslemmons  May 19, 2018 • 7:53:36pm

re: #253 wheat-dogg

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I thought that was really very entertaining when it happened. :)

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 7:53:54pm

re: #253 wheat-dogg

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Video

That’s pretty damn cool. Two of the most famous Brits that the whole world knows- James Bond and the Queen together.

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 7:53:55pm

re: #252 HappyWarrior

Context, boy-o, it matters.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2018 • 7:54:01pm

re: #253 wheat-dogg

I really liked the Opening Ceremony in 2012. They did a great job in bringing the human element in. A contrast against 2008, in a lot of ways, and a reflection on the cultural differences, I think.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 7:54:20pm

re: #254 The Ghost of a Flea

This phenomena may explain how I go through so much aka miso and toilet paper.

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wheat-dogg  May 19, 2018 • 7:54:32pm

re: #254 The Ghost of a Flea

Ninjas are like cockroaches in your kitchen.

You don’t see them…they’re still there.

You notice one…there’s like a hundred and fifty that you haven’t noticed.

That’s most of the plot of Iron Fist right there.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 19, 2018 • 7:54:43pm

re: #237 goddamnedfrank

All I want to know right now.

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Lucy from Timeless was there, next to Serena. I assumed she came from the future to foil a Rittenhouse plot to disrupt the wedding./

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 19, 2018 • 7:54:59pm

re: #256 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Right there with ya, my friend. My funeral is going to be a PAR-TAY. Especially since Mrs. Fish will be there (we already agreed that I am going to kick the bucket first). There will be wine, and women, and absolutely no mourning allowed. And ya damn well better be ready to roast me when you arrive.

Sure you wouldn’t rather be braised, in a white wine sauce?

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Varek Raith  May 19, 2018 • 7:55:07pm

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goddamnedfrank  May 19, 2018 • 7:55:21pm

re: #229 teleskiguy

I hate weddings. There, I said it.

I don’t hate them but they’re usually pretty tedious and full of people and people are generally the worst.

On the other hand, free food and sometimes free booze.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 7:55:52pm

re: #264 Blind Frog Belly White

Sure you wouldn’t rather be braised, in a white wine sauce?

Dude. Seriously. You know how much I love barbecue. If I’m going to be served up as dinner at my own wake, it’s going to be on a goddamn grill.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2018 • 7:56:10pm

re: #265 Varek Raith

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 7:57:26pm

re: #266 goddamnedfrank

On the other hand, free food and sometimes free booze.

Free booze at a wedding can be trouble, as I have seen from experience.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 7:58:08pm

I keep on thinking about how absurd racism really is. I would never want to be what the racists call “pure.”

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 7:58:27pm

re: #262 wheat-dogg

Man, I forgot Iron Fist happened and was perfectly fine with that forgetting.

That show was more paste than pastiche. They needed to roll into the wushu/chanbara craziness and fun. And have a different guy be Iron Fist.

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Skip Intro  May 19, 2018 • 7:58:39pm

You want to see royalty? This is royalty!

CHUCK BERRY, KEITH RICHARDS, ROBERT CRAY - Back in the U S A

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 19, 2018 • 7:58:52pm

re: #267 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Dude. Seriously. You know how much I love barbecue. If I’m going to be served up as dinner at my own wake, it’s going to be on a goddamn grill.

What, not as meat pies?

YouTube

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2018 • 7:59:02pm

re: #266 goddamnedfrank

I don’t hate them but they’re usually pretty tedious and full of people and people are generally the worst.

On the other hand, free food and sometimes free booze.

The last one I went to was an excellent excuse to travel to England, I got to enjoy gin and tonics and Pimms cups all afternoon outdoors at the pub after a gorgeous ceremony in a cathedral hundreds of years old (following a 5k in the local park that morning), and then I was introduced the Eton mess as the best dessert ever.

And I got to sit and have rambling semi-tipsy conversations with numerous Brits about my own age about politics and how the world can be really stupid and managed to leave my glasses behind (but fortunately got them back the next day). 10/10, would attend again.

I’m in the bridal party (well, one of two bridal parties) for the next one so that will be a little more of a working affair.

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Varek Raith  May 19, 2018 • 7:59:03pm

re: #268 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 19, 2018 • 8:00:01pm

re: #271 The Ghost of a Flea

Man, I forgot Iron Fist happened and was perfectly fine with that forgetting.

That show was more paste than pastiche. They needed to roll into the wushu/chanbara craziness and fun. And have a different guy be Iron Fist.

Although, I gotta say, it made you really understand why Luke Cage wanted to pound the crap out of him, didn’t it?

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 8:00:20pm

At my sister’s wedding in Telluride, before the ceremony all the guys went to one of the bars and got beers. I’ve never seen my pops down a Corona faster before or since, 12 oz. gone in less than a minute. It was his firstborn getting married, after all. He took it easy after that.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:00:34pm

I like the free food aspect. Not fond of dressing up though. I’d be t-shirts and shorts/jeans.cargos all the time if I wanted to.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 8:00:50pm

re: #276 Blind Frog Belly White

Although, I gotta say, it made you really understand why Luke Cage wanted to pound the crap out of him, didn’t it?

Oh, my God. Danny Rand, I wanted to murder him from the moment I met him. If they get a Season 2, he better get his ass kicked and then transformed into a different actor.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 8:02:02pm

re: #277 teleskiguy

My wedding was dry. That may have been a mistake; I just about fainted when the church doors opened and the incredibly gorgeous Mrs. Fish appeared in the doorway in that stunning dress. I could’ve used a whiskey or two to steady my nerves at that point.

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goddamnedfrank  May 19, 2018 • 8:02:08pm

re: #269 teleskiguy

Free booze at a wedding can be trouble, as I have seen from experience.

Yes but that’s when the usually tedious people become interesting once you’re at a comfortable distance.

What I won’t do anymore is be involved. I’ve been a best man, a groom and a photographer and that shit is so much more tolerable when I’m uphill watching it all roll down on other dumb saps.

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jaunte  May 19, 2018 • 8:02:12pm

re: #270 HappyWarrior

I keep on thinking about how absurd racism really is. I would never want to be what the racists call “pure.”

You mean ignorant, incurious, and unschooled?

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Dave In Austin  May 19, 2018 • 8:02:26pm
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wheat-dogg  May 19, 2018 • 8:02:34pm

re: #276 Blind Frog Belly White

Although, I gotta say, it made you really understand why Luke Cage wanted to pound the crap out of him, didn’t it?

Jared Kushner with one lame superpower

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Romantic Heretic  May 19, 2018 • 8:03:47pm

re: #251 teleskiguy

I will not be having a funeral at my death. I will have a wake, with plenty of libations and loud music.

This will be played at my wake.

The Pogues - If I Should Fall From Grace With God

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 19, 2018 • 8:03:55pm

re: #279 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh, my God. Danny Rand, I wanted to murder him from the moment I met him. If they get a Season 2, he better get his ass kicked and then transformed into a different actor.

Weakest first series in the whole Marvel TV Universe. The actor has one look - pissy.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 8:04:42pm

re: #286 Blind Frog Belly White

Weakest first series in the whole Marvel TV Universe. The actor has one look - pissy.

Mrs. Fish made a great point. Marvel is killing it in the theaters. But when it comes to TV, DC completely owns.

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jaunte  May 19, 2018 • 8:04:43pm

re: #276 Blind Frog Belly White

Although, I gotta say, it made you really understand why Luke Cage wanted to pound the crap out of him, didn’t it?

He sure was whiny for a superpowered martial artist.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 8:04:47pm

re: #276 Blind Frog Belly White

The whole privilege aspect of Danny Rand versus Luke Cage was done pretty deftly, I thought, but it happened against the backdrop of the former just not being very charismatic or particularly inspiring/likeable.

Like, a light happier version of Danny Rand being problematic from a place of cluelessness would feel different. Flat angsty Danny Rand just didn’t have any charm to leverage.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:05:36pm

re: #285 Romantic Heretic

This will be played at my wake.

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I always imagined this as a good farewell for me and it’s also the Pogues.

The sickbed of Cuchulainn - The Pogues

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 8:06:31pm

I like the getting hit on aspect of other people’s weddings.

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wheat-dogg  May 19, 2018 • 8:07:00pm

re: #270 HappyWarrior

I keep on thinking about how absurd racism really is. I would never want to be what the racists call “pure.”

Their idea of “pure” is scientifically wrong anyway. Even limiting ourselves to European genetics, there were plenty of non-European genes in the mix by the Middle Ages. And claiming to be “pure” German or British, or whatever, is absurd, given changing borders and migration patterns.

It’s one reason I dislike those DNA tests that report you’re 45% German and 25% French, and so on. No. You’re 70% European whose most recent ancestors may have come from what we now call France and Germany.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:07:11pm

re: #282 jaunte

You mean ignorant, incurious, and unschooled?

Ha for sure but yeah man I just keep on looking at my niece and seeing the many unique backgrounds that have contributed to making her in my opinion of course the most beautiful niece anyone could have. It’s been great having her back.

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 8:07:22pm

re: #281 goddamnedfrank

I’ve been a best man

I’ve been a best man, but it was a rinky-dink affair. My close friend and his bride got married in a horse pasture outside of Telluride, she wore a dress she made herself that was definitely not white and he had a collared shirt and blue jeans. Minimal catering, BYOB, very casual.

OK, now that I think about it, *that* was the best wedding I’ve attended.

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Romantic Heretic  May 19, 2018 • 8:07:24pm

re: #131 LadyBehir

Coleco. Adam. Do I win?

48K Apple II. Serial # 1871. Easter 1977

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:08:11pm

re: #292 wheat-dogg

Their idea of “pure” is scientifically wrong anyway. Even limiting ourselves to European genetics, there were plenty of non-European genes in the mix by the Middle Ages. And claiming to be “pure” German or British, or whatever, is absurd, given changing borders and migration patterns.

It’s one reason I dislike those DNA tests that report you’re 45% German and 25% French, and so on. No. You’re 70% European whose most recent ancestors may have come from what we now call France and Germany.

Absolutely.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 19, 2018 • 8:09:03pm

re: #292 wheat-dogg

Their idea of “pure” is scientifically wrong anyway. Even limiting ourselves to European genetics, there were plenty of non-European genes in the mix by the Middle Ages. And claiming to be “pure” German or British, or whatever, is absurd, given changing borders and migration patterns.

It’s one reason I dislike those DNA tests that report you’re 45% German and 25% French, and so on. No. You’re 70% European whose most recent ancestors may have come from what we now call France and Germany.

Genetic purity isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. Ask the Hapsburgs.

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wheat-dogg  May 19, 2018 • 8:09:31pm

re: #297 Blind Frog Belly White

Genetic purity isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. Ask the Hapsburgs.

Or the Amish.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:10:06pm

re: #297 Blind Frog Belly White

Genetic purity isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. Ask the Hapsburgs.

There’s that too. What does amuse me to think about though is where my parents’ common ancestor would be lol.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:10:20pm

re: #298 wheat-dogg

Or the Amish.

Or David Duke.

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jaunte  May 19, 2018 • 8:10:52pm

re: #297 Blind Frog Belly White

Ask the Hapsburgs.

Terrible hip dysplasia.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:11:22pm

re: #301 jaunte

Terrible hip dysplasia.

Jaw issues too.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 8:11:38pm

re: #294 teleskiguy

I was never best man. I was groomsman at several of my friends’ weddings - I literally felt the phrase, “Always a bridesmaid, never a bride”. Even the best man at my own wedding, I was not the best man at his. Most of that was owing to tradition that the brother of the groom was the best man, and seeing as I have no brother, I invited the one man who at the time was as close to me as a brother, but he himself had multiple brothers who served as his groomsmen ahead of me. My best man’s wedding was one of those weddings, I’m surprised more dramatic shit didn’t go down. A couple of years after, apparently, the wife’s mom and dad divorced in a relatively peaceable event. Yeah.

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 8:12:54pm

re: #303 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My friend’s brother was supposed to be best man, but he couldn’t make it, he was fishing up in Alaska. So he chose me to take his place.

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jaunte  May 19, 2018 • 8:13:55pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 8:14:21pm

re: #292 wheat-dogg

Their idea of “pure” is scientifically wrong anyway. Even limiting ourselves to European genetics, there were plenty of non-European genes in the mix by the Middle Ages. And claiming to be “pure” German or British, or whatever, is absurd, given changing borders and migration patterns.

It’s one reason I dislike those DNA tests that report you’re 45% German and 25% French, and so on. No. You’re 70% European whose most recent ancestors may have come from what we now call France and Germany.

They don’t care.

Racism has applies bad-faith invocation of concepts (science) while holding the actual mechanisms of action of those concepts (empiricism) in utter contempt.

They conjure by invoking biology rather than actually giving a shit about what biology says. You can see this all over the internet with the pseudointellectuals (see: Theodore Beale) who cite papers and quotemine, but if you read at any depth beyond shallow, they’re full of shit.

And it been that way for at least a century, closer to two or three. Racists aggressively ignore observations and data that don’t support their pre-existing beliefs. Hence the all the methods of discounting studies that don’t support them not by rigor, by declaring an a priori bias that means they can be ignored. See: political correctness, the idea that scientific racism is counterintuitive or revolutionary and thus is a noble rebellion against oppressive consensus, etc.

When racists have power, they game their own system.

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 8:14:42pm
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wheat-dogg  May 19, 2018 • 8:14:55pm

re: #300 HappyWarrior

Or David Duke.

I see photos of white supremacists and wonder why they think they are at the top of the genetic pyramid. I mean, yuck.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 19, 2018 • 8:15:36pm

re: #292 wheat-dogg

Their idea of “pure” is scientifically wrong anyway. Even limiting ourselves to European genetics, there were plenty of non-European genes in the mix by the Middle Ages. And claiming to be “pure” German or British, or whatever, is absurd, given changing borders and migration patterns.

It’s one reason I dislike those DNA tests that report you’re 45% German and 25% French, and so on. No. You’re 70% European whose most recent ancestors may have come from what we now call France and Germany.

Don’t forget the Neanderthal, Cro-magnon, hobbit and other fractions.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 8:15:39pm

Well, I’ve made at least three jokes about cannibalism on Facebook and I own a Die Antwoord album.

I’m fairly certain I’m on some kind of FBI watch list by now.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:16:16pm

re: #308 wheat-dogg

I see photos of white supremacists and wonder why they think they are at the top of the genetic pyramid. I mean, yuck.

Yeah I mean I know we shouldn’t make fun of people’s looks but these guys usually come the hell on. Meanwhile they flip out at mixed race/ethnic people who quite honestly are some of the most attractive looking people I’ve ever seen.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 19, 2018 • 8:16:55pm

re: #308 wheat-dogg

I see photos of white supremacists and wonder why they think they are at the top of the genetic pyramid. I mean, yuck.

You have to be a pretty big loser when all you have to be proud of is the color of your skin.

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jaunte  May 19, 2018 • 8:16:57pm

re: #310 The Ghost of a Flea

Luckily, the anti-cannibalism team at FBI has been reassigned to track down White House leakers.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 19, 2018 • 8:17:26pm

re: #294 teleskiguy

I’ve been a best man, but it was a rinky-dink affair. My close friend and his bride got married in a horse pasture outside of Telluride, she wore a dress she made herself that was definitely not white and he had a collared shirt and blue jeans. Minimal catering, BYOB, very casual.

OK, now that I think about it, *that* was the best wedding I’ve attended.

My sister’s wedding had memorable bits. She married a Jewish guy and so we tried to combine traditions a bit. They wanted the glass smashing part, and my Mom thought this would be the PERFECT chance to get rid of an ugly crystal glass we had. So, they drank from it, wrapped it up, put it on the ground and my new BIL stomped.

It didn’t break. It was a HEAVY lead crystal champagne coupe, on a padded, carpeted floor, and BIL weighed about 125 soaking wet. After two tries, he finally cracked the stem off, which we all considered to be sufficient. My Dad (the Mennonite) shouts, “Mazel Tov!”

BIL’s Dad responds, “…Yeah! Mazel Tov!”, like he needed Dad to remind him.

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Varek Raith  May 19, 2018 • 8:17:57pm

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 8:18:10pm

re: #306 The Ghost of a Flea

I mean, consider that “black African” is a meaningless construct, genetically. The population of Subsaharan Africa has more diversity on a genetic level than other regions. In the modern age, to maintain that there is a uniform “black” such that skin color correlates with other traits (that racist attribute to race) requires ignoring that basic fact.

…and they do, because they need the concept of a uniform blackness to contrast themselves with.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 8:19:05pm

re: #313 jaunte

Luckily, the anti-cannibalism team at FBI has been reassigned to track down White House leakers.

If I die under mysterious circumstances, it means somebody in power found out I went on a date with a Juggalo.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 19, 2018 • 8:19:28pm

re: #298 wheat-dogg

Or the Amish.

Hey, what’s a few polydactyl dwarves among friends?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 19, 2018 • 8:20:28pm

re: #312 Big Beautiful Door

You have to be a pretty big loser when all you have to be proud of is the color of your skin.

Especially if that color is ‘None’.

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 8:20:36pm

Alright, I’ll concede this moment from the big wedding today.

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wheat-dogg  May 19, 2018 • 8:20:41pm

re: #309 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Don’t forget the Neanderthal, Cro-magnon, hobbit and other fractions.

The discoveries about many Europeans having about 1-2% Neandertal genes fascinates me. When I was a kid, the books all portrayed Neandertals as stupid brutes who were rendered extinct by the smarter (and better-looking) Cro-Magnon. Now we understand the Neandertals as being quite intelligent and better adapted to the European climate of the time than the newcomers.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:21:38pm

White supremacists like Duke are always telling older white folks like my parents and grandmother, THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE FOR YOUR GRANDCHILDREN!. Well Dave, my parents and grandmother have a multi-ethnic granddaughter and great granddaughter and they don’t love her any less because of her mother’s place of origin. She’s their granddaughter and great granddaughter and they’re not going to love her any less. I’m hopeful that more people think like my parents and grandmother and it will help us forge a better future. Who knows, my niece could fall in love with someone of a totally different background than either my brother or SiL or she could go back to square one and fall in love with someone from Spain or my ancestral nations. Love is love and that’s what the bigoted pricks will never get.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:22:28pm

re: #320 teleskiguy

Alright, I’ll concede this moment from the big wedding today.

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I imagine it also means a lot on a sentimental level for Black Britons who get told by British racists that they’re not “really British” becaues of their skin color.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2018 • 8:22:55pm

re: #316 The Ghost of a Flea

I mean, consider that “black African” is a meaningless construct, genetically. The population of Subsaharan Africa has more diversity on a genetic level than other regions. In the modern age, to maintain that there is a uniform “black” such that skin color correlates with other traits (that racist attribute to race) requires ignoring that basic fact.

…and they do, because they need the concept of a uniform blackness to contrast themselves with.

And the most extreme Caucasoid types there are—I make no excuses for using the old racial classification because we’re talking about what people look like—some of the Berber tribes of North Africa, are among the darkest-skinned people in the world.

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whitebeach  May 19, 2018 • 8:23:09pm

re: #265 Varek Raith

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 8:23:11pm

re: #320 teleskiguy

“My daughter and Prince Harry are in love! What a g’ d’ trip!”

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:23:48pm

re: #312 Big Beautiful Door

You have to be a pretty big loser when all you have to be proud of is the color of your skin.

I’m proud of my own accomplishments. My skin tone is nothing I did. It’s just the product of my ancestors. It makes me no better or worse than anyone. It just makes me what I am. It also leads to more easier burning in the sun than I’d like too.

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wheat-dogg  May 19, 2018 • 8:23:59pm

re: #322 HappyWarrior

White supremacists like Duke are always telling older white folks like my parents and grandmother, THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE FOR YOUR GRANDCHILDREN!. Well Dave, my parents and grandmother have a multi-ethnic granddaughter and great granddaughter and they don’t love her any less because of her mother’s place of origin. She’s their granddaughter and great granddaughter and they’re not going to love her any less. I’m hopeful that more people think like my parents and grandmother and it will help us forge a better future. Who knows, my niece could fall in love with someone of a totally different background than either my brother or SiL or she could go back to square one and fall in love with someone from Spain or my ancestral nations. Love is love and that’s what the bigoted pricks will never get.

My son has dated an African-American woman and a Chinese woman (among others). I’d have been totally fine with him marrying either one.

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 8:24:33pm
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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:25:21pm

re: #316 The Ghost of a Flea

I mean, consider that “black African” is a meaningless construct, genetically. The population of Subsaharan Africa has more diversity on a genetic level than other regions. In the modern age, to maintain that there is a uniform “black” such that skin color correlates with other traits (that racist attribute to race) requires ignoring that basic fact.

…and they do, because they need the concept of a uniform blackness to contrast themselves with.

It took me some time to explain to my grandmother and mom that South America is a very diverse region. They weren’t being bigoted. They were just unaware of how many different groups have called South America home over the centuries.

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wheat-dogg  May 19, 2018 • 8:25:44pm

re: #329 teleskiguy

Orange Toad has already “joked” about a third term. Preet must have missed that.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 19, 2018 • 8:25:48pm

I think mass genetic analysis will eventually reveal a generations long pattern of inbreeding in certain elements of the population. It will be the definitive end of conservative America.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:26:21pm

re: #328 wheat-dogg

My son has dated an African-American woman and a Chinese woman (among others). I’d have been totally fine with him marrying either one.

Yep. I look at this way. We’re all human beings. Having a problem with someone’s skin color is like having a problem with someone’s hair or eye color.

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Varek Raith  May 19, 2018 • 8:26:50pm

Speak for yourselves, mortals.
:P

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:27:03pm

re: #332 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I think mass genetic analysis will eventually reveal a generations long pattern of inbreeding in certain elements of the population. It will be the definitive end of conservative America.

Given that conservative America is the least mobile part of the country, I suspect you will be proven right on that front.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 8:28:49pm

re: #330 HappyWarrior

It took me some time to explain to my grandmother and mom that South America is a very diverse region. They weren’t being bigoted. They were just unaware of how many different groups have called South America home over the centuries.

Speaking as a social scientist…South America as shows how arbitrary race constructs are.

Lots of folks there see themselves as “white” and look down on people who are more brown/black, but would be counted non-white in European or American racist schemes.

Same thing in East Africa and the Middle East. Northern Sudanese think of themselves as non-black, and Southern Sudanese as inferior “blacks.” Arab view themselves as white, and racism against non-whites definitely happens in the ME.

The shit doesn’t make sense on any analytical level, which is where the bad faith comes in.

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wheat-dogg  May 19, 2018 • 8:28:50pm

re: #330 HappyWarrior

It took me some time to explain to my grandmother and mom that South America is a very diverse region. They weren’t being bigoted. They were just unaware of how many different groups have called South America home over the centuries.

A former president of Peru was named Fujimori, for example.

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jaunte  May 19, 2018 • 8:29:00pm
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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:29:53pm

re: #337 wheat-dogg

A former president of Peru was named Fujimori, for example.

Yep! And my favorite Peruvian dish is Chinese inspired- Lomo Saltado.

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 8:30:34pm

re: #328 wheat-dogg

I’ve dated a Cuban who lived in Key West, a gal from outside London, a few Latino gals, and a couple of white women. I am single now, gladly.

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stpaulbear  May 19, 2018 • 8:30:46pm

re: #247 teleskiguy

I’ve been to one good wedding, my older sister’s in Telluride, CO. And I didn’t really like that one, commiserating with people I haven’t seen or heard from since. I mean, it was a gorgeous affair and all.

And I’ve also been to drunken shitshow weddings where fights break out during the dinner recpetion.

I stopped going to friends’ weddings a long time ago. I get RSVPed occasionally and I politely decline and send a nice card.

I played in a trio that did a lot of wedding receptions, and they were very often a pain in the ass due to someone who was drunk and belligerent. Less often, they were a lot of fun.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:30:57pm

re: #336 The Ghost of a Flea

Speaking as a social scientist…South America as shows how arbitrary race constructs are.

Lots of folks there see themselves as “white” and look down on people who are more brown/black, but would be counted non-white in European or American racist schemes.

Same thing in East Africa and the Middle East. Northern Sudanese think of themselves as non-black, and Southern Sudanese as inferior “blacks.” Arab view themselves as white, and racism against non-whites definitely happens in the ME.

The shit doesn’t make sense on any analytical level, which is where the bad faith comes in.

Absolutely. I just wish we realized yeah we look different but we have more in common than we don’t.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:31:45pm

re: #338 jaunte

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Goddamnit

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 8:31:52pm

re: #342 HappyWarrior

We’re all meat with pretensions.

345
The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 8:32:11pm

re: #338 jaunte

FFFFUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKKK

346
makeitstop  May 19, 2018 • 8:32:14pm

re: #266 goddamnedfrank

I don’t hate them but they’re usually pretty tedious and full of people and people are generally the worst.

On the other hand, free food and sometimes free booze.

I don’t hate weddings per se, but I do hate the wedding business.

Who is the word convinced these young people that they need a $50,000 wedding? Or a destination wedding?

And who’s the goddamn genius who came up with the idea of having a drummer playing along with the DJ? That is truly one of the most stupid things I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen it at more than one wedding.

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 8:32:57pm

re: #341 stpaulbear

I played in a trio that did a lot of wedding receptions, and they were very often a pain in the ass due to someone who was drunk and belligerent. Less often, they were a lot of fun.

Not quite a trio, still…

The Dan Band - Total Eclipse of the Heart

348
wheat-dogg  May 19, 2018 • 8:33:23pm

re: #336 The Ghost of a Flea

Speaking as a social scientist…South America as shows how arbitrary race constructs are.

Lots of folks there see themselves as “white” and look down on people who are more brown/black, but would be counted non-white in European or American racist schemes.

Same thing in East Africa and the Middle East. Northern Sudanese think of themselves as non-black, and Southern Sudanese as inferior “blacks.” Arab view themselves as white, and racism against non-whites definitely happens in the ME.

The shit doesn’t make sense on any analytical level, which is where the bad faith comes in.

Skin color is a thing among Chinese and other Asians. Lighter skin is better than darker skin, traditionally speaking. Some Chinese are very prejudiced against Africans and other dark-skinned people. You might have an TEFL degree from Cambridge, but if you’re Jamaican or Indian by ancestry, good luck finding a teaching job in China.

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jaunte  May 19, 2018 • 8:33:31pm

re: #330 HappyWarrior

It took me some time to explain to my grandmother and mom that South America is a very diverse region. They weren’t being bigoted. They were just unaware of how many different groups have called South America home over the centuries.

One of my co-workers is Venezuelan, from German heritage. He came to the U.S. and finished high school in Cleveland, where the other students first assumed he was from France because of his accent, and when he corrected them, decided he should be called Jungle Boy because South America.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 19, 2018 • 8:33:36pm

re: #346 makeitstop

I don’t hate weddings per se, but I do hate the wedding business.

Who is the word convinced these young people that they need a $50,000 wedding? Or a destination wedding?

And who’s the goddamn genius who came up with the idea of having a drummer playing along with the DJ? That is truly one of the most stupid things I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen it at more than one wedding.

Somebody has to do the rim shots during the Best Man’s speech.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2018 • 8:33:51pm

re: #336 The Ghost of a Flea

Speaking as a social scientist…South America as shows how arbitrary race constructs are.

Lots of folks there see themselves as “white” and look down on people who are more brown/black, but would be counted non-white in European or American racist schemes.

Same thing in East Africa and the Middle East. Northern Sudanese think of themselves as non-black, and Southern Sudanese as inferior “blacks.” Arab view themselves as white, and racism against non-whites definitely happens in the ME.

The shit doesn’t make sense on any analytical level, which is where the bad faith comes in.

Black American airmen went to help the Ethiopians fight the Italian invasion in the 1930s, blissfully unaware that they, or the ruling Amhara at any rate, consider themselves Caucasian—which, make no mistake, they are—and had kept black slaves until very recently, if not in fact currently.

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teleskiguy  May 19, 2018 • 8:34:02pm

re: #338 jaunte

That is beyond heavy. That kind of psychological assault can break people.

353
Blind Frog Belly White  May 19, 2018 • 8:34:15pm

re: #342 HappyWarrior

Absolutely. I just wish we realized yeah we look different but we have more in common than we don’t.

To another species, we all look the same.

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wheat-dogg  May 19, 2018 • 8:35:48pm

re: #353 Blind Frog Belly White

To another species, we all look the same.

Gator feed.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:35:52pm

re: #349 jaunte

One of my co-workers is Venezuelan, from German heritage. He came to the U.S. and finished high school in Cleveland, where the other students first assumed he was from France because of his accent, and when he corrected them, decided he should be called Jungle Boy because South America.

My SiL’s father’s mother’s ancestry is very similiar to my mom’s. In fact, I had a good conversation with how beautiful the coast of Croatia is with her sister when they visited the other day.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:36:26pm

re: #348 wheat-dogg

Skin color is a thing among Chinese and other Asians. Lighter skin is better than darker skin, traditionally speaking. Some Chinese are very prejudiced against Africans and other dark-skinned people. You might have an TEFL degree from Cambridge, but if you’re Jamaican or Indian by ancestry, good luck finding a teaching job in China.

Colorism unfortunately is very much a thing in other cultures.

357
The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 8:37:04pm

re: #348 wheat-dogg

Skin color is a thing among Chinese and other Asians. Lighter skin is better than darker skin, traditionally speaking. Some Chinese are very prejudiced against Africans and other dark-skinned people. You might have an TEFL degree from Cambridge, but if you’re Jamaican or Indian by ancestry, good luck finding a teaching job in China.

When the Japanese decided to become imperialists in the European colonial mode, they started doing race science to demonstrate they were a superior variety of Asiatic using the kind of anthropometric shit the Germans used, and doing stuff like putting Ryukuans in human zoos.

Especially fucking crazy…Koreans and Japanese are genetically and linguistically related, yet each firmly holds the other is completely unrelated (and inferior).

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:37:43pm

re: #344 The Ghost of a Flea

We’re all meat with pretensions.

It was a cynical way of looking at it but Rust Cohle in True Detective- Human consciousness is a misstep of evolution. I don’t agree with that view of course but said consciousness is what allows us to discriminate.

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Stanley Sea  May 19, 2018 • 8:39:22pm

re: #265 Varek Raith

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Single-handed sailor  May 19, 2018 • 8:39:24pm
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wheat-dogg  May 19, 2018 • 8:40:14pm

re: #356 HappyWarrior

Colorism unfortunately is very much a thing in other cultures.

Some of my female students here are stunning, but they think themselves less attractive because their skin is “dark.”

There’s a lot of pressure in China, Korea and Japan for women to meet some arbitrary standard of beauty, more so than in the West.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 8:40:25pm

re: #358 HappyWarrior

It was a cynical way of looking at it but Rust Cohle in True Detective- Human consciousness is a misstep of evolution. I don’t agree with that view of course but said consciousness is what allows us to discriminate.

I honestly think the only way shit gets better is if people discard the idea that the human mind is foreordained to be rational and its perceptions to be accurate.

Everything rots from that assumption. Like…how many centuries did we operate with the idea of homo economicus as the basis of social science? It was horseshit. People are not rational actors.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:40:31pm

Are you a good person?

Do you have curiousty about the world around us?

That matters far more than to me than the color of skin or where your family’s from. Now I’m going to be curious about where your family’s from because I like trying new foods whenever I can.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:41:42pm

re: #361 wheat-dogg

Some of my female students here are stunning, but they think themselves less attractive because their skin is “dark.”

There’s a lot of pressure in China, Korea and Japan for women to meet some arbitrary standard of beauty, more so than in the West.

I believe it. That whole thing as you get is so different than ehre in the West. I mean we do have that but it’s different.

365
Hecuba's daughter  May 19, 2018 • 8:42:17pm

re: #331 wheat-dogg

Orange Toad has already “joked” about a third term. Preet must have missed that.

He’s done this on more than one occasion. His comment on Xi and a more recent comment about a third term.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2018 • 8:42:50pm

re: #361 wheat-dogg

Some of my female students here are stunning, but they think themselves less attractive because their skin is “dark.”

There’s a lot of pressure in China, Korea and Japan for women to meet some arbitrary standard of beauty, more so than in the West.

Which leads to a lot of uniformity. I never really wanted a girlfriend that I couldn’t pick out of a police lineup, but maybe that’s just me….

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freetoken  May 19, 2018 • 8:44:05pm

re: #361 wheat-dogg

Yup. When I was in Japan, there was a definitely strong current in the culture whereby beauty was associated with lighter skin.

Now, there are of course young people who have attempted the counter-culture thing, dressing up in bronze skin and strangely colored hair.

But the mainstream was really all-in for skin lightening products.

368
wheat-dogg  May 19, 2018 • 8:45:01pm

re: #357 The Ghost of a Flea

When the Japanese decided to become imperialists in the European colonial mode, they started doing race science to demonstrate they were a superior variety of Asiatic using the kind of anthropometric shit the Germans used, and doing stuff like putting Ryukuans in human zoos.

Especially fucking crazy…Koreans and Japanese are genetically and linguistically related, yet each firmly holds the other is completely unrelated (and inferior).

China has been trying to prove that Homo sapiens in China developed independently from H. sapiens elsewhere, in an effort to avoid the inevitable reality that Chinese people are descendants of people out of Africa. There are some Chinese scientists who are trying to interpret the fossil record to show there was parallel evolution, despite genetic evidence to the contrary. It may be one reason why sending genetic materials (DNA tests, for example) through China Post is forbidden.

369
HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:46:13pm

Human genetics is fascinating. My mom and I actually have fairly close cousins that despite Mom and I’s overwhelming European ancestry are partially African-American since Mom has two cousins that married African-American men. I always tell people that I’m happy to share my genealogical research with them since it’s THEIR story too. My half African-American and half Slovene-American cousins and I share the same great grandparents.

370
wheat-dogg  May 19, 2018 • 8:46:50pm

re: #366 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Which leads to a lot of uniformity. I never really wanted a girlfriend that I couldn’t pick out of a police lineup, but maybe that’s just me….

Apple’s facial recognition algorithm could not distinguish between one Chinese woman and her co-worker.

371
freetoken  May 19, 2018 • 8:47:21pm

re: #368 wheat-dogg

That is of course an old idea.

From the scientific literature, though, it does appear as if most Chinese genomicists and anthropologists fully agree with the sapiens dispersal from Africa.

However, the lay culture may still be imbued with this idea of a separate evolution.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2018 • 8:49:41pm

re: #367 freetoken

Yup. When I was in Japan, there was a definitely strong current in the culture whereby beauty was associated with lighter skin.

Now, there are of course young people who have attempted the counter-culture thing, dressing up in bronze skin and strangely colored hair.

But the mainstream was really all-in for skin lightening products.

Which, if you consider the historical associations, makes some sense. Only the upper classes wouldn’t have to be out working in the sun in order to feed themselves, and could thereby avoid the sun and resulting tan. So lighter skin becomes associated with wealth and higher status. This used to be the case in Western culture too*; it’s only a somewhat recent phenomenon that sees tan as in.

* For sure British culture around the 1810-1820s period, which is the one I can speak to women’s fashion with the most knowledge.

373
wheat-dogg  May 19, 2018 • 8:50:53pm

re: #371 freetoken

That is of course an old idea.

From the scientific literature, though, it does appear as if most Chinese genomicists and anthropologists fully agree with the sapiens dispersal from Africa.

However, the lay culture may still be imbued with this idea of a separate evolution.

It’s a government thing, I’m sure. In professional literature, there is little deviance from the idea of common ancestry. But the government prefers a more public explanation of Chinese exceptionalism. So, some scientists have to spout the party line, as when two of them were interviewed by Prof Alice Roberts for one of her docos.

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wheat-dogg  May 19, 2018 • 8:53:22pm

re: #372 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Which, if you consider the historical associations, makes some sense. Only the upper classes wouldn’t have to be out working in the sun in order to feed themselves, and could thereby avoid the sun and resulting tan. So lighter skin becomes associated with wealth and higher status. This used to be the case in Western culture too*; it’s only a somewhat recent phenomenon that sees tan as in.

* For sure British culture around the 1810-1820s period, which is the one I can speak to women’s fashion with the most knowledge.

Women with milk-white skin were seen as the height of beauty at one time. Now they’re Goths and tanned women are the height of beauty.

375
Patricia Kayden  May 19, 2018 • 8:53:27pm

re: #103 teleskiguy

Didn’t know there had been 5 in Canada. Wow.

376
The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 8:54:10pm

re: #368 wheat-dogg

China has been trying to prove that Homo sapiens in China developed independently from H. sapiens elsewhere, in an effort to avoid the inevitable reality that Chinese people are descendants of people out of Africa. There are some Chinese scientists who are trying to interpret the fossil record to show there was parallel evolution, despite genetic evidence to the contrary. It may be one reason why sending genetic materials (DNA tests, for example) through China Post is forbidden.

Okay, who do I headbutt to make that stop?

Because that needs to stop.

377
HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:54:18pm

re: #374 wheat-dogg

Women with milk-white skin were seen as the height of beauty at one time. Now they’re Goths and tanned women are the height of beauty.

Makes you wonder what the standard of beauty will be 100 years from now.

378
whitebeach  May 19, 2018 • 8:54:35pm

re: #332 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I think mass genetic analysis will eventually reveal a generations long pattern of inbreeding in certain elements of the population. It will be the definitive end of conservative America.

I’m not so sure. My guess is that in conservative areas, especially in the South, countless results from 23andme and other DNA ancestry sites have been quietly burned and flushed down the toilet, for the same reason that courthouse fires were so common back in the day of the “one-drop rule.”

379
jaunte  May 19, 2018 • 8:54:39pm

re: #374 wheat-dogg

Now that the work is inside away from the sun, and a tan is a sign of leisure.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 19, 2018 • 8:55:17pm

re: #377 HappyWarrior

Makes you wonder what the standard of beauty will be 100 years from now.

My likely vain hope is ‘more realistic.’ I’d settle for at least more diversity in ethnicities and pray for some variety in body shapes.

381
wheat-dogg  May 19, 2018 • 8:55:25pm

re: #377 HappyWarrior

Makes you wonder what the standard of beauty will be 100 years from now.

In 100 years I’m not sure being outside in the sun would be all that healthy.

382
The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 8:55:42pm

re: #377 HappyWarrior

Cybernetic third breast that doubles as a wifi spot.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:55:49pm

re: #380 klys (maker of Silmarils)

My likely vain hope is ‘more realistic.’ I’d settle for at least more diversity in ethnicities and pray for some variety in body shapes.

Hear hear.

384
HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:56:06pm

re: #382 The Ghost of a Flea

Cybernetic third breast that doubles as a wifi spot.

Ha!

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jaunte  May 19, 2018 • 8:56:31pm

re: #373 wheat-dogg

It’s a government thing, I’m sure. In professional literature, there is little deviance from the idea of common ancestry. But the government prefers a more public explanation of Chinese exceptionalism. So, some scientists have to spout the party line, as when two of them were interviewed by Prof Alice Roberts for one of her docos.

It’s sad that some people think they have to rely on faking the record for a sense of achievement when there is so much realilty to point to.

386
wheat-dogg  May 19, 2018 • 8:57:23pm

re: #378 whitebeach

I’m not so sure. My guess is that in conservative areas, especially in the South, countless results from 23andme and other DNA ancestry sites have been quietly burned and flushed down the toilet, for the same reason that courthouse fires were so common back in the day of the “one-drop rule.”

A prime example are the Melungeons, who traditionally insisted they were descendants of Portuguese or Moors, but genetically are African-American.

387
HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:57:41pm

re: #378 whitebeach

I’m not so sure. My guess is that in conservative areas, especially in the South, countless results from 23andme and other DNA ancestry sites have been quietly burned and flushed down the toilet, for the same reason that courthouse fires were so common back in the day of the “one-drop rule.”

I didn’t know that about the era of the one drop rule.

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Romantic Heretic  May 19, 2018 • 8:58:27pm

re: #353 Blind Frog Belly White

To another species, we all look the same.

My vampires say humans all taste pretty much the same.

Perspective.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:58:33pm

re: #386 wheat-dogg

A prime example are the Melungeons, who traditionally insisted they were descendants of Portuguese or Moors, but genetically are African-American.

Which would make sense given that the Portuguese typically emigrated to the North/West and not the South.

390
HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 8:59:01pm

re: #388 Romantic Heretic

My vampires say humans all taste pretty much the same.

Perspective.

They do however consider AB blood a delicacy though right?

391
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 19, 2018 • 8:59:21pm

re: #377 HappyWarrior

Makes you wonder what the standard of beauty will be 100 years from now.

I saw a documentary about that once….

You Are So Beautiful in the Eye of the Beholder

392
The Ghost of a Flea  May 19, 2018 • 8:59:24pm

re: #380 klys (maker of Silmarils)

It seems like beauty trends have gotten even more arbitrary since they’ve become commercialized (consumable) as opposed to being a sign of distinction.

Like, the beauty standard of the future will be unreasonable because that generates markets for ways of “fixing” oneself.

Create problem, solve problem. Lex Luthor capitalism.

393
Romantic Heretic  May 19, 2018 • 9:01:56pm

re: #356 HappyWarrior

Colorism unfortunately is very much a thing in other cultures.

It’s easier than thinking.

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wheat-dogg  May 19, 2018 • 9:05:19pm

re: #385 jaunte

It’s sad that some people think they have to rely on faking the record for a sense of achievement when there is so much realilty to point to.

The Han majority in China are a peculiar bunch. They have much to be proud of, but they prefer to ignore that many of China’s great advances came from the Mongol and Manchu invaders. They want very much to elevate the Han to be the pinnacle of Chinese-ness, which not so coincidentally matches up with the Party’s desire to assimilate all the other 55 ethnic groups in China into one national Han culture. It’s been a feature of Han rule for thousands of years.

At the same time, there seems to be somewhat of an inferiority complex among Chinese, when they compare themselves to Westerners or even Koreans or Japanese.

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Patricia Kayden  May 19, 2018 • 9:05:23pm

re: #182 HappyWarrior

This is something I admit as a White American I never gave much thought but it’s a good point.
washingtonpost.com

I have cousins in Brixton and have visited there a couple of times. Love that article. I’m sure Meghan will do fine as she was a humanitarian long before she met Harry.

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HappyWarrior  May 19, 2018 • 9:06:47pm

=re: #395 Patricia Kayden

I have cousins in Brixton and have visited there a couple of times. Love that article. I’m sure Meghan will do fine as she was a humanitarian long before she met Harry.

Yeah I have to admit that it’s something I never thought about. I have cousins that live in the UK too btw. Americans like I am but their husbands and children are British.

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Romantic Heretic  May 19, 2018 • 9:18:58pm

re: #377 HappyWarrior

Makes you wonder what the standard of beauty will be 100 years from now.

Probably something like Bubbles.

Sort of/

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Romantic Heretic  May 19, 2018 • 9:25:22pm

re: #390 HappyWarrior

They do however consider AB blood a delicacy though right?

It’s the individual’s soul that gives the blood taste. So, paradoxically, each person tastes different but the same.

They can find some people less than tasty, like the serial rapist/killer that mistook Diane for prey.

She still drank him down though.


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Stanford Prison Experiment: Why Famous Psychology Studies Are Now Being Torn Apart Sometimes pseudoscience makes it through to the text books, most often in the soft and social sciences. A new exposé based on previously unpublished recordings of Philip Zimbardo, the Stanford psychologist who ran the study, and interviews with his ...
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