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The addiction treatment industry is dangerously unregulated. John Oliver explains why many rehab programs should incorporate more evidence-based care and carefully reconsider their doctor-to-horse ratio.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 11:25:59am
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freetoken  May 21, 2018 • 11:27:52am

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sadly, the USSC does not have to be “woke” as they are the arbiters of woken-ness in their sphere.

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Charles Johnson  May 21, 2018 • 11:28:47am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 11:29:16am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 11:30:33am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 11:31:52am
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Charmingly Persistent  May 21, 2018 • 11:32:55am

I am hoping someone can help me figure out how to get Twitter images to show up again (Safari on a Mac).

When I push the button on the right for a picture:

Image button

I get this:

If I do save it to my Image LIbrary I get the image and not the error message. Videos work. Moving GIFs work. Just still images give me the error message.

I have AdBlock Plus, but it is turned off here (plus I have a subscription). The button works on Firefox (no ABP).

Any ideas? I’ve tried reloading, quitting Safari, and restarting my Mac already.

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freetoken  May 21, 2018 • 11:33:12am

Speaking of being woke, apparently it pays to be friends with Trump:

WWE SMACKDOWN REPORTEDLY COMING TO FOX IN ‘MASSIVE’ DEAL

So a two hour show that WWE previously produced for NBCU at around $60 mil/yr is now going to be priced at well over three times that.

I’m sure that Rupert wants to make sure Trump’s friends are rewarded.

The McMahons, who own something like 88% of the votes in WWE stock, have seen the value of their stock skyrocket since the Saudis hired them as unregistered agents, and that Rupert decided to give them a generous deal.

The Gilded Age has nothing on the Drumpfepoche.

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Kragar  May 21, 2018 • 11:34:51am

Who could have possibly guessed this?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 21, 2018 • 11:35:58am
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 21, 2018 • 11:36:54am

re: #10 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Heritage OF Hate.

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jaunte  May 21, 2018 • 11:38:25am

re: #10 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

…it turns out a man with the same voice had left three other threatening voicemails within the past week. The cops simply checked the mosque’s caller ID, and Hughes’ name popped up. Investigators later confirmed the number belonged to him.

Heritage of shallow end of the gene pool.

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jaunte  May 21, 2018 • 11:40:26am
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Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2018 • 11:41:22am

re: #12 jaunte

Heritage of shallow end of the gene pool.

I’m guessing this guy wasn’t exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer. His family tree probably looks like this:

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makeitstop  May 21, 2018 • 11:42:00am

So, did Trump ‘hereby demand’ the investigation of the investigation like he said he was going to do on Twitter yesterday?

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dangerman  May 21, 2018 • 11:42:32am

re: #10 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Effing Cutler bay

Can’t pawn him off as a north Floridian

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meteor  May 21, 2018 • 11:45:23am
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goddamnedfrank  May 21, 2018 • 11:46:08am

re: #15 makeitstop

So, did Trump ‘hereby demand’ the investigation of the investigation like he said he was going to do on Twitter yesterday?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 11:47:26am

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

love how in the photo he self-identifies with the “loser” hand sign…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 21, 2018 • 11:48:29am
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jaunte  May 21, 2018 • 11:49:15am

The Grift Never Sleeps

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Sir John Barron  May 21, 2018 • 11:49:24am

re: #18 goddamnedfrank

I’m just glad drumpF isn’t trying to unlawfully interfere in the investigation or anything like that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 11:50:36am
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 21, 2018 • 11:51:19am

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

love how in the photo he self-identifies with the “loser” hand sign…

Someone with Photoshop skills needs to have him doing that sign on his forehead.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 11:52:12am

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“subport”

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Charles Johnson  May 21, 2018 • 11:53:46am
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Dr Lizardo  May 21, 2018 • 11:53:51am

Gonna call it a night. Have fun, Lizards.

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jaunte  May 21, 2018 • 11:54:39am


White House releases commemorative coin for North Korea talks

thehill.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 11:55:58am
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 21, 2018 • 11:59:54am

re: #28 jaunte

Hey, years from now, the commemorative coin for the Summit That Never Happened will be worth at least twice what they’re worth now.

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jaunte  May 21, 2018 • 12:00:00pm
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jaunte  May 21, 2018 • 12:00:48pm

re: #30 Blind Frog Belly White

Put it in the case next to the Nixon Imperial Guardsman uniforms.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 21, 2018 • 12:03:07pm

re: #32 jaunte

Put it in the case next to the Nixon Imperial Guardsman uniforms.

Jesus, don’t let Trump know about those!

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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 12:03:31pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Not only that but Rosenstein is a Trump appointee.

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stpaulbear  May 21, 2018 • 12:03:50pm

I suppose I should be ready to head over to the state capitol after work for the mass protest if Rosenstein gets fired today..

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JordanRules  May 21, 2018 • 12:06:58pm

He doesn’t usually fire people in person so there’s that small glimmer of something I suppose.

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ObserverArt  May 21, 2018 • 12:07:18pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

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If you are not 100% in the bag for Trump…then you are a damn liberal and don’t want to Make America Great Again.

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KGxvi  May 21, 2018 • 12:08:30pm

re: #8 freetoken

Speaking of being woke, apparently it pays to be friends with Trump:

WWE SMACKDOWN REPORTEDLY COMING TO FOX IN ‘MASSIVE’ DEAL

So a two hour show that WWE previously produced for NBCU at around $60 mil/yr is now going to be priced at well over three times that.

I’m sure that Rupert wants to make sure Trump’s friends are rewarded.

The McMahons, who own something like 88% of the votes in WWE stock, have seen the value of their stock skyrocket since the Saudis hired them as unregistered agents, and that Rupert decided to give them a generous deal.

The Gilded Age has nothing on the Drumpfepoche.

Smackdown has been the red headed stepchild of WWE since the end of the Monday night wars. It has bounced around from syndicates broadcast channels like UPN to SyFy to USA most recently and has run at various points on tuesdays Wednesdays Thursday’s and Friday’s.

NBCU apparently paid triple to keep Raw but didn’t want Smackdown, even though Smackdown recently went to live broadcasts on USA about a year ago.

And that’s the real key to these deals. WWE does live broadcasts, which people tend to watch live, which means that they can actually sell ads that people will see. It’s the same reason there is money in real sports tv deals. When everything else can be watched on demand or via dvr and skipping commercials, the money for television networks is in live broadcasts

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 21, 2018 • 12:09:06pm

This is the end result of 30 years of the Right ginning up fake corruption scandals about the Clintons - they convinced their idiot followers that it’s just business as usual, so that the most cosmically corrupt administration is just seen as ‘Everybody Does It’.

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mmmirele  May 21, 2018 • 12:09:10pm

I can’t…I just can’t…

Con Law students at the University of Texas sat down for Professor Richard Albert’s 1L exam and were met with a bunch of multiple choice questions and one essay question, asking students to imagine themselves as counsel to the Governor of Kansas in 1954 and write 1000 words outlining the best legal arguments to defend segregation in the Brown case.

Defending… segregation.

*snip*

Conservative blog Misrule of Law, in trying to defend the professor’s question, characterizes this exam as teaching students to “think like a lawyer.” This may be a perfectly noble sentiment, but it’s a red herring — this question doesn’t teach a law student to think like a lawyer any more than asking a student how they would balance the humors would teach someone to “think like a doctor.” Even if we pretend there’s a good argument against the holding in Brown — like Trump’s judicial nominees do (but don’t ask them about it or it hurts their precious feelings!) — what value does a student get from cobbling together legal precedent as it stood in 1954? That doesn’t make for an interesting debate, it’s just dumb.

abovethelaw.com

I took Con Law over 30 years ago, so 30+ years closer to Brown v Board of Education and I couldn’t even begin to tell you what the Plessy line of cases were. Because they’d been overruled, and Brown was only finishing up what had been done in Sweatt v Painter (1950) which held that UT Austin coukdn’t set up a separate but equal law school.

I would have been bewildered in 1987 if presented with this exam. In 2018, faced with judges who won’t say if the would uphold Brown, I would have been livid. I might even have protested the exam or written something completely different.

I am utterly gobsmacked.

ETA this is a conservative black man, on top of it all.

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KGxvi  May 21, 2018 • 12:13:03pm

re: #40 mmmirele

I can’t…I just can’t…

abovethelaw.com

I took Con Law over 30 years ago, so 30+ years closer to Brown v Board of Education and I couldn’t even begin to tell you what the Plessy line of cases were. Because they’d been overruled, and Brown was only finishing up what had been done in Sweatt v Painter (1950) which held that UT Austin coukdn’t set up a separate but equal law school.

I would have been bewildered in 1987 if presented with this exam. In 2018, faced with judges who won’t say if the would uphold Brown, I would have been livid. I might even have protested the exam or written something completely different.

I am utterly gobsmacked.

Jesus Christ. I took Con Law with John Eastman, and I couldn’t imagine him ever thinking this was a good idea. And he’s among those that think we should go back to the Lochner Era

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Charles Johnson  May 21, 2018 • 12:13:36pm

re: #7 Charmingly Persistent

I am hoping someone can help me figure out how to get Twitter images to show up again (Safari on a Mac).

When I push the button on the right for a picture:

[Embedded content]

If I do save it to my Image LIbrary I get the image and not the error message. Videos work. Moving GIFs work. Just still images give me the error message.

I have AdBlock Plus, but it is turned off here (plus I have a subscription). The button works on Firefox (no ABP).

Any ideas? I’ve tried reloading, quitting Safari, and restarting my Mac already.

Well, I normally use Safari on a Mac too, so that’s not the problem because the button always works here.

You can help me debug it by turning on the “Develop” menu in Safari.

In this new Develop menu there’s an option to “Show Web Inspector.”

Go to one of the tweets with an image that isn’t working and click the icon to show the error message. Then go to the Develop menu and choose Show Web Inspector.

If there are some error messages in red near the bottom of the Web Inspector window, copy and paste them into a comment so I can see what Safari’s unhappy about.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 21, 2018 • 12:14:00pm

From the previous thread:

re: #451 HappyWarrior

I always thought it was judgmental bullshit. Kind of like all those anti gay business owners who want to be able to deny gay people service because being gay is a sin while being okay with other sins. Like you never hear about anti-gay bakers or florists refusing to serve divorcees. Hmmm. It’s almost like their interpretation of sin is subjective bullshit.

My wife’s and my favourite restaurant here is a family-style restaurant in La Grange, Wyo. owned by a very conservative Mennonite family. They recognise us every time we roll up in the Liberalmobile Smart with marriage equality stickers and such, and welcome us by name.

They don’t care about our religious or political opinions … they care about our money, as a business should.

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dangerman  May 21, 2018 • 12:19:20pm

Update on Mrs dm

She feels ok…considering

Chest tube is still in. 2 days more than planned
There’s still a “trickle”…
This am after the chest x-ray they clamped it closed. That’s a baby step forward. Simulates removing the tube without actually…
So fingers crossed we’ll see in 4 hrs.

I can’t say enough good things about univ of Colorado denver hospital. Outstanding service from every single person we met (and many we haven’t met,). Still were ready to leave and move on to the next phase of recovery

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Anymouse 🌹  May 21, 2018 • 12:21:21pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

Correct. Conservatives always vote, because conservative politicians drive them to the polls with fear. Fear is a powerful motivator.

Teh Geyhs are trying to snatch your children and make you marry your dog! Women will be forced into mass abortions! Liberals want to drop the borders and import terrorists!

Couple that with a farm league of Websites, a Triple A minor league of radio agitprop, and a major league of FOX, they will always always vote.

Failure to vote or casting a protest vote is the same as voting for the conservative candidate. The most conservative Democrat is light-years ahead of the most liberal Republican.

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JordanRules  May 21, 2018 • 12:21:32pm
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Kragar  May 21, 2018 • 12:22:01pm
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lawhawk  May 21, 2018 • 12:23:34pm

re: #40 mmmirele

I get wanting to test on Plessy/Brown and segregation, but they’re not even hiding the fact that they want to throw out the past 60+ years of jurisprudence that helped eliminate separate but equal (as inherently unequal).

They want to take us back to the 50s (I’m still not sure which century though, since the 1950s were downright progressive compared to what the GOP has in mind).

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Shropshire Slasher  May 21, 2018 • 12:23:37pm

John Oliver is exactly right. I am glad I am not the only person who yells at their tv when those rehab commercials are on. 100% cured my ass, you just set them up for another fall.

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JordanRules  May 21, 2018 • 12:24:36pm
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mmmirele  May 21, 2018 • 12:25:10pm

re: #43 Anymouse 🌹

From the previous thread:

My wife’s and my favourite restaurant here is a family-style restaurant in La Grange, Wyo. owned by a very conservative Mennonite family. They recognise us every time we roll up in the Liberalmobile Smart with marriage equality stickers and such, and welcome us by name.

They don’t care about our religious or political opinions … they care about our money, as a business should.

The evil too big to fail bank is of course evil, but it recognized a long time ago that LGBT people have money and are happy to put it in supportive banks. Over a decade ago, the bank absorbed another bank which held the accounts of Focus on the Fetus Family. That organization objected to some of the LGBT-oriented corporate giving and said it would move its business. The PR department’s response was basically, “byeeee, we won’t see you soon.” FOTF went with a bank that discriminates against LGBT persons, located in the Midwest. I was so pleased.

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JordanRules  May 21, 2018 • 12:26:08pm
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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 12:26:17pm

re: #50 JordanRules

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He’s proving how how hypocritical they are and how they slavishly devoted to the cult of the gun they are.

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mmmirele  May 21, 2018 • 12:26:49pm

As for the rehab business, I could have told you it was dangerously unregulated 25 years ago. Scientology is allowed to run its evidence free crap.

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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 12:27:41pm

re: #52 JordanRules

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So he’s acting like a cynical politician. More proof that Bernie isn’t some white knight but rather in it for himself.

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Sir John Barron  May 21, 2018 • 12:27:55pm

re: #47 Kragar

So the criminal being investigated wants to confront an accuser or witness before trial or have that witness punished in some way? Yeah, sounds legit.

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Eventual Carrion  May 21, 2018 • 12:28:19pm

re: #10 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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The your “heritage” sucks ass and you should be ashamed Dustin.

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Eventual Carrion  May 21, 2018 • 12:29:11pm

re: #14 Dr Lizardo

I’m guessing this guy wasn’t exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer. His family tree probably looks like this:

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Yeah, he’s more like the meat mallet.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 21, 2018 • 12:29:54pm

re: #41 KGxvi

Jesus Christ. I took Con Law with John Eastman, and I couldn’t imagine him ever thinking this was a good idea. And he’s among those that think we should go back to the Lochner Era

Next up: Loving v Virginia, the Fugitive Slave Act, followed by Dred Scott v Sanford

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Big Beautiful Door  May 21, 2018 • 12:30:29pm
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dangerman  May 21, 2018 • 12:31:08pm

re: #52 JordanRules

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Sanders’ plan is to run in the Democratic primary in his re-election bid, then decline the nomination if he wins, his campaign spokeswoman says

He won’t win the nom

He’s a shitheel

Oh and newsflash he’s not a goddamn democrat

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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 12:33:00pm

re: #61 dangerman

He won’t win the nom

He’s a shitheel

Oh and newsflash he’s not a goddamn democrat

He’s a cynical asshole posing as someone who cares.

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lawhawk  May 21, 2018 • 12:33:00pm

Stepping away from the insanity spewing from Trumpworld like a geyser to wonders of the natural world, including geysers of lava:

And Steamboat geyser in Yellowstone has been quite active this month. And no, it doesn’t mean it’s gonna blow anytime soon.

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JordanRules  May 21, 2018 • 12:40:23pm
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jaunte  May 21, 2018 • 12:40:42pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 12:42:03pm
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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 12:43:43pm

re: #64 JordanRules

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Too bad it wasn’t NRO.

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goddamnedfrank  May 21, 2018 • 12:47:47pm
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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 12:49:19pm

re: #68 goddamnedfrank

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I wish more people would call him out on it but they just see his promises and overlook that the guy is a prick.

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Charles Johnson  May 21, 2018 • 12:51:47pm
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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 21, 2018 • 12:55:46pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

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At least we now know that wingnuts are capable of using the word democratic. I guess they’ll only use it for real democratic things. like North Korea.

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JordanRules  May 21, 2018 • 12:55:50pm
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ObserverArt  May 21, 2018 • 12:59:47pm

Hugh Hewitt Thinking…

“Everyone should have to walk around buck naked…nowhere to hide a gun that way and it makes America Safe Again!”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 21, 2018 • 1:03:16pm

re: #12 jaunte

Heritage of shallow end of the gene pool.

Part of the “common heritage” of which these yokels are so proud is that 2 or 3 hundred of their great-grandparents were fathered by the same traveling preacher. I wish I were just kidding but I think that inadvertent inbreeding is a major problem and the ultimate dirty secret of the American hinterland.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 21, 2018 • 1:05:57pm

re: #73 ObserverArt

Hugh Hewitt Thinking…

“Everyone should have to walk around buck naked…nowhere to hide a gun that way and it makes America Safe Again!”

Reminds me of The Puppet Masters (the book, not the movie). They started out with “Schedule Bareback”, but when they found the parasites could hide under your pants and send a pseudopod up to the end of your spinal cord, they had to go to “Schedule Suntan”—all naked all the time.

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whitebeach  May 21, 2018 • 1:06:21pm

re: #73 ObserverArt

Hugh Hewitt Thinking…

“Everyone should have to walk around buck naked…nowhere to hide a gun that way and it makes America Safe Again!”

Hey, really open carry.

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wrenchwench  May 21, 2018 • 1:06:45pm

re: #74 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Part of the “common heritage” of which these yokels are so proud is that 2 or 3 hundred of their great-grandparents were fathered by the same traveling preacher. I wish I were just kidding but I think that inadvertent inbreeding is a major problem and the ultimate dirty secret of the American hinterland.

The cure would be to welcome immigrants and other outsiders to their communities. Not gonna hold my breath.

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lawhawk  May 21, 2018 • 1:07:12pm

re: #70 Charles Johnson

A meeting that might never occur because smarter and saner minds prevail.

Trump wants a meeting at any cost because enough right wing loons floated idea of a Nobel prize after threatening nuclear war and dropping bombs on North Korea if they didn’t comply.

Of course, now it’s North Korea that’s giving the marching orders and everyone’s trying to salvage the situation from Trump because he gave away the leverage the US had, and once again everyone’s trying to play to Trump’s ego and vanity.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 21, 2018 • 1:08:23pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 21, 2018 • 1:10:47pm

re: #77 wrenchwench

The cure would be to welcome immigrants and other outsiders to their communities. Not gonna hold my breath.

I’ve always thought that one of the things my mother’s extended clan had against her was her rejection of the jug-eared, beady eyed, loaf-nosed yokel boys in favor of a handsome chap from California. Worse, he was of a suspicious ethnicity. He was white, of course, but “Portuguese” is about halfway to “Mexican” in their minds.

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Sir John Barron  May 21, 2018 • 1:11:23pm

re: #79 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

That would have required an investigation, which you would have said was a politically motivated witch hunt.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 21, 2018 • 1:11:48pm
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Sir John Barron  May 21, 2018 • 1:12:22pm

It’s sort of interesting to consider what the outcome would have been had Hillary and Obama and Dems nationally basically attacked the FBI investigation of the emails nonstop, tweeted everyday about it being a silly witch hunt, etc.

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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 1:12:37pm

re: #80 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’ve always thought that one of these things my mother’s extended clan had against her was her rejection of the jug-eared, beady eyed, loaf-nosed yokel boys in favor of a handsome chap from California. Worse, he was of a suspicious ethnicity. He was white, of course, but “Portuguese” is about halfway to “Mexican” in their minds.

Name probably ended in a vowel, no bueno.

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Sir John Barron  May 21, 2018 • 1:12:55pm

re: #82 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The border wall we were told Mexico would pay for?

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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 1:15:04pm

re: #82 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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What in the.

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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 1:15:47pm

I’m an idiot.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 21, 2018 • 1:16:54pm

politico.com
Politico interviews the editor of The Onion, weighing in on satire in the age of Trump, when Trump seems to be immune to satire.

Tu stultus es

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Sir John Barron  May 21, 2018 • 1:16:55pm

re: #79 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

So drUmpf is basically saying now that any investigation, surveillance, of him and his campaign would have been warranted. Good to know.

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ObserverArt  May 21, 2018 • 1:20:54pm

re: #78 lawhawk

A meeting that might never occur because smarter and saner minds prevail.

Trump wants a meeting at any cost because enough right wing loons floated idea of a Nobel prize after threatening nuclear war and dropping bombs on North Korea if they didn’t comply.

Of course, now it’s North Korea that’s giving the marching orders and everyone’s trying to salvage the situation from Trump because he gave away the leverage the US had, and once again everyone’s trying to play to Trump’s ego and vanity.

He’ll blame South Korea’s Moon for any failure in the negotiations. Trump never fails!

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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 1:21:18pm

re: #89 Sir John Barron

So drUmpf is basically saying now that any investigation, surveillance, of him and his campaign would have been warranted. Good to know.

Trump really thinks he’s above the law and you know what, he’s got no moderating influence on him to tell him he isn’t.

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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 1:21:48pm

re: #90 ObserverArt

He’ll blame South Korea’s Moon for any failure in the negotiations. Trump never fails!

Oh absolutely. SK will absolutely be blamed.

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Sir John Barron  May 21, 2018 • 1:24:04pm

re: #92 HappyWarrior

Oh absolutely. SK will absolutely be blamed.

Anyone but Drumpf

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Sir John Barron  May 21, 2018 • 1:24:32pm

re: #91 HappyWarrior

Trump really thinks he’s above the law and you know what, he’s got no moderating influence on him to tell him he isn’t.

Starting to wonder if Steve Bannon might not have been a moderating influence on him.

half sarc

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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 1:29:01pm

re: #94 Sir John Barron

Starting to wonder if Steve Bannon might not have been a moderating influence on him.

half sarc

He may have been more than Kelly is. People just saw Kelly’s military experience and thought he could potentially be a George Marshall type but no.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 21, 2018 • 1:30:45pm

An Indiana law professor wrote a letter to the editor of his local newspaper, saddened that Democrats are electing so many women to office instead of the most qualified candidates.

wonkette.com

Whinging about “reverse discrimination,” part of his letter reads:

I was very disturbed by the results of the recent Democratic primary. I was glad to see women candidates do well, especially those who were accomplished and who had worked hard. But the fact that all women candidates won, even against accomplished male incumbents, was troubling.



At the state delegate level, combining the city’s districts 1 and 2, women candidates averaged 1,779 votes while the men averaged 696. All of the male candidates received less votes than any of their female rivals except the sitting mayor and Alphonso Manns. 

Clearly, hundreds of Democratic women are voting for female candidates based on their gender and have been encouraged in this regard by the Democratic Women’s Caucus. Ann Birch of the League of Women Voters said that the women’s success was the result of “nurture rather than nature.”

I agree that discrimination is an unnatural act and that the Democratic Women’s Caucus has taught many Democratic women to discriminate on the basis of gender. What a sad achievement

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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 1:33:30pm

re: #96 Anymouse 🌹

An Indiana law professor wrote a letter to the editor of his local newspaper, saddened that Democrats are electing so many women to office instead of the most qualified candidates.

wonkette.com

Whinging about “reverse discrimination,” part of his letter reads:

After generations of men simply getting jobs by being men, I think we’ll live. And I’m sorry but we have the most inexperienced person ever as President who beat one of the most qualified people period who happened to be a woman.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 21, 2018 • 1:38:16pm

This morning, China launched their Queqiao relay satellite towards the L2 position beyond the Moon. It will relay communications with the Chang’e 4 lander/rover which will land on the Far Side later this year.

“Queqiao” means “Bridge of Birds” as made famous (here) by Barry Hughart’s novel of the same name.

If you like fantasy, but are all Celticked out, I can’t recommend Hughart’s Master Li/Number Ten Ox series enough. Unfortunately, obtuse publishers limited it to three novels.

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goddamnedfrank  May 21, 2018 • 1:43:05pm

re: #78 lawhawk

A meeting that might never occur because smarter and saner minds prevail.

Trump wants a meeting at any cost because enough right wing loons floated idea of a Nobel prize after threatening nuclear war and dropping bombs on North Korea if they didn’t comply.

Of course, now it’s North Korea that’s giving the marching orders and everyone’s trying to salvage the situation from Trump because he gave away the leverage the US had, and once again everyone’s trying to play to Trump’s ego and vanity.

The really dangerous thing is that Kelly had to talk Trump out of removing US troops from South Korea before Moon and Kim met, before there was any hint of a meeting.

White House chief of staff and retired Marine Corps Gen. John Kelly talked President Trump out of ordering the withdrawal of all U.S. troops from the Korean Peninsula earlier this year, according to a report Monday by NBC News.

According to two officials cited in the NBC report, Kelly and Trump had a “heated exchange” before February’s Winter Olympics in South Korea, and Kelly strongly persuaded Trump to not order the withdrawal, which would have had historic implications on decades-old regional alliances and North Korean deterrence efforts.

Multiple officials said Kelly’s success in talking Trump out of undoing decades of U.S. foreign policy was another example of Kelly’s common refrain that, “I’m the one saving the country,” NBC reports.

“The strong implication being ‘if I weren’t here we would’ve entered WWIII or the president would have been impeached,’” one former senior White House official was quoted as saying in the report.

So Kim knows that Trump desperately wants to abandon SK and free those troops up for a potential war with Iran which Trump needs to A.) boost oil prices and reward his foreign masters, and B.) appear tough & quell domestic dissent with a fresh round of war propaganda. This means Kim and Trump want the same thing, and it isn’t denuclearization. Kim just needs to find the right fig leaf that will allow Trump to sell the betrayal of a key ally.

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William Lewis  May 21, 2018 • 1:44:51pm

Well Holy Poo!

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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 1:47:07pm

re: #99 goddamnedfrank

The really dangerous thing is that Kelly had to talk Trump out of removing US troops from South Korea before Moon and Kim met, before there was any hint of a meeting.

So Kim knows that Trump desperately wants to abandon SK and free those troops up for a potential war with Iran which Trump needs to A.) boost oil prices and reward his foreign masters, and B.) appear tough & quell domestic dissent with a fresh round of war propaganda. This means Kim and Trump want the same thing, and it isn’t denuclearization. Kim just needs to find the right fig leaf that will allow Trump to sell the betrayal of a key ally.

It’s even worse than I thought.

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goddamnedfrank  May 21, 2018 • 1:48:14pm
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sagehen  May 21, 2018 • 1:52:32pm

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹

Next up: Loving v Virginia, the Fugitive Slave Act, followed by Dred Scott v Sanford

Griswold v. Connecticut.

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danarchy  May 21, 2018 • 1:52:34pm

re: #61 dangerman

He won’t win the nom

He’s a shitheel

Oh and newsflash he’s not a goddamn democrat

Keep dreaming, he will win the nomination easily. He is hugely popular in his home state and Vermont has open primaries.

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goddamnedfrank  May 21, 2018 • 1:53:56pm
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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 1:54:24pm

re: #103 sagehen

Griswold v. Connecticut.

I knew the religious right was growing more nutty when they started questioning Griswold and Eisenstadt, similar to Griswold but allows contraception to all couples regardless of marital status.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 21, 2018 • 1:56:18pm

Pharyngula cited Wonkette’s recent article on Jordon Peterson and his ideas of “enforced monogamy” on women to keep violent assholes from being violent.

It took all of six comments there before the Peterson fanboys swarmed the Pharyngula thread.

Does Peterson have his own squad of flying monkeys who constantly monitor his name to see if their dear leader is being slighted somewhere?

freethoughtblogs.com

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Sir John Barron  May 21, 2018 • 1:56:35pm

re: #106 HappyWarrior

I knew the religious right was growing more nutty when they started questioning Griswold and Eisenstadt, similar to Griswold but allows contraception to all couples regardless of marital status.

“We’re for less government, and we really love Freedom and liberty, really.”

/

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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 1:58:27pm

re: #108 Sir John Barron

“We’re for less government, and we really love Freedom and liberty, really.”

/

Yeah hypocrisy at its finest. You don’t want to use birth control, fine but don’t punish couples who do.

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Sir John Barron  May 21, 2018 • 1:58:40pm

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹

Pharyngula cited Wonkette’s recent article on Jordon Peterson and his ideas of “enforced monogamy” on women to keep violent assholes from being violent.

Such a common-sense, reasonable argument. Who could be against that?

////

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  May 21, 2018 • 2:01:24pm

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹

Does Peterson have his own squad of flying monkeys who constantly monitor his name to see if their dear leader is being slighted somewhere?

Oh, they’re more pathetic than flying monkeys. The flying monkeys weren’t self-recruited.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 21, 2018 • 2:02:27pm

re: #100 William Lewis

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dangerman  May 21, 2018 • 2:06:38pm

re: #96 Anymouse 🌹

An Indiana law professor wrote a letter to the editor of his local newspaper, saddened that Democrats are electing so many women to office instead of the most qualified candidates.

wonkette.com

Whinging about “reverse discrimination,” part of his letter reads:

Since when was any primary or general election about choosing the most “qualified?”

And how is losing “discrimination”?

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JordanRules  May 21, 2018 • 2:07:47pm

Lizza is such a hack.

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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 2:12:12pm

re: #113 dangerman

Since when was any primary or general election about choosing the most “qualified?”

And how is losing “discrimination”?

Seems to me that the Professor just wants something to whine about.

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dangerman  May 21, 2018 • 2:15:05pm

re: #104 danarchy

Keep dreaming, he will win the nomination easily. He is hugely popular in his home state and Vermont has open primaries.

Yes. Sorry.
Apologies to one and all

I did not click through and read

I assumed we were talking president again

Ignore me…I have an excuse (this week)

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Big Beautiful Door  May 21, 2018 • 2:27:22pm

re: #85 Sir John Barron

The border wall we were told Mexico would pay for?

The crowdfunders will get a bond redeemable when Mexico writes the Wall check.//

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Skip Intro  May 21, 2018 • 2:27:55pm
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goddamnedfrank  May 21, 2018 • 2:28:44pm

re: #114 JordanRules

Lizza is such a hack.

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It’s funny that he’s complaining about someone blocking him when he blocks people all the time for mentioning his being fired from The New Yorker for sexual misconduct.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 21, 2018 • 2:30:49pm

re: #113 dangerman

Since when was any primary or general election about choosing the most “qualified?”

And how is losing “discrimination”?

It’s discrimination because all the Democratic women are ganging up to vote for other women, in his not-so-informed opinion.

It was also pointed out that one of the women he was citing was a Republican woman who ousted an incumbent man.

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MsJ  May 21, 2018 • 2:31:10pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

I can never upload a photo from my iPhone any longer. No matter what I do with them they are always too big. Is there something about the new iPhone X that is making this happen? I changed all the settings to make them as small as possible.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 21, 2018 • 2:34:22pm

re: #106 HappyWarrior

I knew the religious right was growing more nutty when they started questioning Griswold and Eisenstadt, similar to Griswold but allows contraception to all couples regardless of marital status.

Its essential to eliminate the right to privacy in order to control women’s bodies and outlaw sodomy.

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JordanRules  May 21, 2018 • 2:36:02pm

Last month.

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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 2:37:18pm

re: #123 JordanRules

Last month.

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Oh lovely.

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MsJ  May 21, 2018 • 2:37:42pm

I was in meetings all afternoon. Are Wray and Rosenstein still employed?

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JordanRules  May 21, 2018 • 2:37:48pm
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JordanRules  May 21, 2018 • 2:39:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 2:40:04pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 21, 2018 • 2:40:20pm

re: #121 MsJ

I can never upload a photo from my iPhone any longer. No matter what I do with them they are always too big. Is there something about the new iPhone X that is making this happen? I changed all the settings to make them as small as possible.

Open the photo in your Mac with Preview then click on Edit to reduce the size of the file under the 500KB limit. Then upload the pic using your Mac!

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wrenchwench  May 21, 2018 • 2:41:43pm

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

[…pro hac vice…]

One of those great legal terms. Needs a ‘k’.

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JordanRules  May 21, 2018 • 2:43:54pm

re: #125 MsJ

I was in meetings all afternoon. Are Wray and Rosenstein still employed?

So far, yes.

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MsJ  May 21, 2018 • 2:44:20pm

re: #129 Joe Bacon 🌹

Open the photo in your Mac with Preview then click on Edit to reduce the size of the file under the 500KB limit. Then upload the pic using your Mac!

I don’t have a Mac, I have a PC which I am only on during the day. I don’t want to have to go to a PC to upload a photo. It defeats the purpose of having a zillion dollar handheld computer.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 2:44:36pm
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Barefoot Grin  May 21, 2018 • 2:45:20pm

Oops:

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Charmingly Persistent  May 21, 2018 • 2:45:41pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

In the Console? It looks like this:

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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 2:47:05pm

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Kid is so stupid.

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makeitstop  May 21, 2018 • 2:48:14pm

Here’s one for Wrenchwench from our field trip yesterday:

A German soldier’s bike. The holster under the seat is a nice touch. I wonder if the gun is pointing down, though.

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Patricia Kayden  May 21, 2018 • 2:49:55pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s frustrating that you have to tell adults that they should vote in each and every election. Sigh.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 21, 2018 • 2:50:01pm

re: #136 HappyWarrior

Kid is so stupid.

What is he even talking about? There’s nothing in the news even remotely like that.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 21, 2018 • 2:50:39pm

re: #127 JordanRules

It begins…….

Conquest Of The Planet Of The Apes-trailer-

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teleskiguy  May 21, 2018 • 2:50:48pm

The Onion, breaking some kind of satirical fourth wall.

It is real. A lawsuit was referenced on The Today Show in 2016.

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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 2:50:55pm

re: #139 Blind Frog Belly White

What is he even talking about? There’s nothing in the news even remotely like that.

I have no idea.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 21, 2018 • 2:51:48pm

I think what this represents is lower wage individuals leaving, rather than a mass exodus, because it’s not like the vacancy rate is rising or housing costs are going down.

“Nobody goes there anymore. It’s too crowded.”

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wrenchwench  May 21, 2018 • 2:53:15pm

re: #137 makeitstop

Here’s one for Wrenchwench from our field trip yesterday:

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A German soldier’s bike. The holster under the seat is a nice touch. I wonder if the gun is pointing down, though.

Needs tires. I got ‘em. I want to hear the bell.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 21, 2018 • 2:58:01pm

re: #78 lawhawk

A meeting that might never occur because smarter and saner minds prevail.

Trump wants a meeting at any cost because enough right wing loons floated idea of a Nobel prize after threatening nuclear war and dropping bombs on North Korea if they didn’t comply.

Of course, now it’s North Korea that’s giving the marching orders and everyone’s trying to salvage the situation from Trump because he gave away the leverage the US had, and once again everyone’s trying to play to Trump’s ego and vanity.

If he wanted a Nobel prize, he probably shouldn’t have violated the Iran nuclear agreement. Does he really think they’ll award it to him after that?

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dangerman  May 21, 2018 • 2:58:04pm

re: #133 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Art of the deal:

Trump just negotiated a $380 BILLION dollar reduction in our trade deficit with China

Largest annual trade deficit reduction in US history

This is just air.

Please explain how this is going to work in the real world of, you know, markets?

Actually reducing the trade deficit by 380b is nigh on impossible

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Patricia Kayden  May 21, 2018 • 2:59:10pm

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹

I read Patheos’ “Dispatches from the Culture Wars” which also mentioned Jordan Peterson’s enforced monogamy nonsense. The comments became so swarmed with his sycophants that the blog owner had to shut them down.

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JordanRules  May 21, 2018 • 3:01:31pm

Get your resumes updated people!

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makeitstop  May 21, 2018 • 3:01:38pm

‘Clown prince.’ Yep, they’ve got Jared’s number, all right.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 3:03:14pm
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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 3:03:18pm

re: #148 JordanRules

Get your resumes updated people!

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I’ve never blamed George Soros for a hangover, I’m afraid I’m not qualified.

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ipsos  May 21, 2018 • 3:03:24pm

I got righteously angry with a FB friend (and IRL acquaintance) who approvingly posted the WH statement about the “animals” of MS-13. Here’s an abbreviated version of my reply to him:

I’m going to challenge you here, [name of person].

I know you’re a better person than this.

My initial instinct here was to do what I usually do when one of my friends starts posting about “demonRATS” and such - hit the “30-day snooze” button and move on with my life. But I care about you as, yes, a fellow human being. I’ve been following your ordeal with your [family member who’s in a coma] and I empathize deeply with the pain it must be causing you. I’ve been there with [my family member] several times in the last few years, and thankfully she’s mostly recovered and still here to be here for our family. (That little girl who visited you at [place where he used to work] all those years ago? She’s [older] now and you should see her growing up!)

I know we don’t see eye-to-eye politically. That’s fine. That’s what our nation is built on.

Maybe you don’t know about my family’s history. That’s fine too. I don’t talk about it often here. But the reality is this: my mother-in-law never knew her grandparents because the government that was in power at the time she was growing up started to put out propaganda that depicted some of the humans who lived there as, yes, “animals.” Her parents gave up their home and their possessions and their friends and fled to safety in [the midwest] with her older brother, and she came along a few years later. Her grandparents were murdered, as was much of the rest of the family.

Can you see that you’ve touched a nerve here? Can you see that your friends who find this funny aren’t very amusing to me? And can you see why I think this kind of language is beneath us as a nation, beneath the dignity we should expect from our leaders and beneath what any of us should endorse as individuals?

Again - I’m not opposed to prosecuting crime. I’m not opposed to using the rule of law to punish the human beings who commit crimes. I’m not opposed to preventing those humans who would commit crimes from being here in our nation.

I just can’t wrap my mind around the mentality that would see them only as “animals.” It’s not what my religion teaches me. From what I’ve studied of the teachings of the rabbi we know as Jesus, it’s not in his teachings, either.

I’m sure you’re having a tough time of things right now, my friend. I’ve been there. I care about you and about what you’re going through with [family member in a coma]. Which is why I’m asking you, as a friend, to think really hard about what you’re saying here and about how it’s coming across.

You ARE better than this. (And so are your friends.)

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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 3:03:56pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Pruitt is the worst thing to happen to the EPA.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 21, 2018 • 3:04:12pm

re: #148 JordanRules

Get your resumes updated people!

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Well, I think we can guess the future of Graduating gun girl now.

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William Lewis  May 21, 2018 • 3:04:33pm

Yeash. Just had an “Independent” for the local congressional seat door knocking. I told him I only vote for Democrats and that all “Independents” do is get Republicans elected to do more damage. He got a bit huffy at that point to do it nicely. My guess is he’s a Bernie Bro based on the utterly incomprehensible literature he dropped on me. Hopefully not too many will be fooled into voting for the yahoo.

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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 3:05:27pm

re: #152 ipsos

I got righteously angry with a FB friend (and IRL acquaintance) who approvingly posted the WH statement about the “animals” of MS-13. Here’s an abbreviated version of my reply to him:

I’m going to challenge you here, [name of person].

I know you’re a better person than this.

My initial instinct here was to do what I usually do when one of my friends starts posting about “demonRATS” and such - hit the “30-day snooze” button and move on with my life. But I care about you as, yes, a fellow human being. I’ve been following your ordeal with your [family member who’s in a coma] and I empathize deeply with the pain it must be causing you. I’ve been there with [my family member] several times in the last few years, and thankfully she’s mostly recovered and still here to be here for our family. (That little girl who visited you at [place where he used to work] all those years ago? She’s [older] now and you should see her growing up!)

I know we don’t see eye-to-eye politically. That’s fine. That’s what our nation is built on.

Maybe you don’t know about my family’s history. That’s fine too. I don’t talk about it often here. But the reality is this: my mother-in-law never knew her grandparents because the government that was in power at the time she was growing up started to put out propaganda that depicted some of the humans who lived there as, yes, “animals.” Her parents gave up their home and their possessions and their friends and fled to safety in [the midwest] with her older brother, and she came along a few years later. Her grandparents were murdered, as was much of the rest of the family.

Can you see that you’ve touched a nerve here? Can you see that your friends who find this funny aren’t very amusing to me? And can you see why I think this kind of language is beneath us as a nation, beneath the dignity we should expect from our leaders and beneath what any of us should endorse as individuals?

Again - I’m not opposed to prosecuting crime. I’m not opposed to using the rule of law to punish the human beings who commit crimes. I’m not opposed to preventing those humans who would commit crimes from being here in our nation.

I just can’t wrap my mind around the mentality that would see them only as “animals.” It’s not what my religion teaches me. From what I’ve studied of the teachings of the rabbi we know as Jesus, it’s not in his teachings, either.

I’m sure you’re having a tough time of things right now, my friend. I’ve been there. I care about you and about what you’re going through with [family member in a coma]. Which is why I’m asking you, as a friend, to think really hard about what you’re saying here and about how it’s coming across.

You ARE better than this. (And so are your friends.)

Well said, I hope they listen.

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teleskiguy  May 21, 2018 • 3:05:41pm

re: #148 JordanRules

Which hat should I wear to the interview?

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William Lewis  May 21, 2018 • 3:06:48pm

re: #152 ipsos

Very well said. Thank you for sharing it, sir.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 3:07:13pm
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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 3:08:28pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s more paranoid than Nixon.

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KGxvi  May 21, 2018 • 3:11:59pm

re: #160 HappyWarrior

He’s more paranoid than Nixon.

It’s not paranoia when they’re all out to get you.

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wrenchwench  May 21, 2018 • 3:12:02pm

re: #160 HappyWarrior

He’s more paranoid than Nixon.

Nixon knew they were going to get him. And they did. Trump has no clue.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 21, 2018 • 3:12:51pm
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ipsos  May 21, 2018 • 3:13:00pm

re: #158 William Lewis

Very well said. Thank you for sharing it, sir.

Can you tell I’m kind of impassioned about this?

It feels like there’s a real line that some people are allowing themselves to get dragged across, and I have to believe that if they’re challenged, at least a few of them will see where they’re headed and stop.

The alternative is too depressing to contemplate.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 21, 2018 • 3:13:33pm

re: #161 KGxvi

It’s not paranoia when they’re all out to get you.

It can still be paranoia if you’re wrong about who, and why, and how they’re out to get you.

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jaunte  May 21, 2018 • 3:18:30pm
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jaunte  May 21, 2018 • 3:19:05pm

YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE

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Hecuba's daughter  May 21, 2018 • 3:20:11pm

We have to stop underestimating Trump. He’s not paranoid. He knows exactly what he’s doing to excite his base, retain power, and enrich himself. He understands the authority that has been placed in his hands and that no one in the legislative branch has to date shown any interest or capability of seizing it back from him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 21, 2018 • 3:20:55pm

re: #167 jaunte

YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE

YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE, DAD

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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 3:21:28pm

re: #166 jaunte

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Your Dad pled guilty.

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jaunte  May 21, 2018 • 3:22:34pm
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EPR-radar  May 21, 2018 • 3:23:51pm

re: #164 ipsos

Can you tell I’m kind of impassioned about this?

It feels like there’s a real line that some people are allowing themselves to get dragged across, and I have to believe that if they’re challenged, at least a few of them will see where they’re headed and stop.

The alternative is too depressing to contemplate.

Perhaps a different kind of argument may be more effective. Calling Nazis and the like ‘animals’ is going too easy on them because animals are moral innocents. There is nothing wrong or evil about a tiger’s eating habits. If it becomes a man eater, it is hunted down and killed as an exercise in self defense. It isn’t put on trial.

A big part of why what the Nazis did was so awful is that the Nazis were people, and people are supposed to be much better than that.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 21, 2018 • 3:24:34pm
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wrenchwench  May 21, 2018 • 3:26:10pm

re: #168 Hecuba’s daughter

We have to stop underestimating Trump. He’s not paranoid. He knows exactly what he’s doing to excite his base, retain power, and enrich himself. He understands the authority that has been placed in his hands and that no one in the legislative branch has to date shown any interest or capability of seizing it back from him.

He’s befriending oligarchs from around the world. I’m hoping the Justice Department gets him. Next up is flipping both houses of Congress. After that, I’m not sure.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 21, 2018 • 3:26:52pm

“For one thing, Trump is much taller, and acts WAY crazier.”

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A Mom Anon  May 21, 2018 • 3:33:01pm

re: #100 William Lewis

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gocart mozart  May 21, 2018 • 3:33:24pm
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KGxvi  May 21, 2018 • 3:34:44pm

re: #175 Blind Frog Belly White

again, this is entirely relevant, when Trump wanted to negotiate a nuclear weapons treaty with the Soviets:

Burt, who confirmed the story to me, acknowledged his new position. Trump then said, “Let me tell you what I would have done if I’d been appointed.” He explained that he would have welcomed—very warmly—the Soviet delegation. He would have made sure the country’s envoys were comfortable—very comfortable—at the table.

Then, Trump told Burt, he would have stood up, shouted “Fuck you!,” and left the room. (The White House did not respond to a request for comment.)

If I was an online bookmaker, I’d place the odds of the North Korea summit going like this at about 4:3.

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Belafon  May 21, 2018 • 3:35:37pm

re: #99 goddamnedfrank

I think Trump wanted to remove the troops because he just decided to. Remember, he wanted to boycott the Olympics because NK was going to be there.

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Stanley Sea  May 21, 2018 • 3:39:22pm

Go to bbcessex acct for more

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 21, 2018 • 3:39:46pm

re: #178 KGxvi

again, this is entirely relevant, when Trump wanted to negotiate a nuclear weapons treaty with the Soviets:

If I was an online bookmaker, I’d place the odds of the North Korea summit going like this at about 4:3.

I gotta say, by this time, with a year and a half or more of everybody in the whole goddam world watching him and figuring out his handful of ‘moves’, that doing that would probably not get the reaction he imagines. Less panicked concession, more eyerolling.

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Stanley Sea  May 21, 2018 • 3:40:47pm

This photo!!

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KGxvi  May 21, 2018 • 3:42:08pm

re: #181 Blind Frog Belly White

I gotta say, by this time, with a year and a half or more of everybody in the whole goddam world watching him and figuring out his handful of ‘moves’, that doing that would probably not get the reaction he imagines. Less panicked concession, more eyerolling.

“And that’s how America became a rogue state…”

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Belafon  May 21, 2018 • 3:42:38pm

re: #168 Hecuba’s daughter

We have to stop underestimating Trump. He’s not paranoid. He knows exactly what he’s doing to excite his base, retain power, and enrich himself. He understands the authority that has been placed in his hands and that no one in the legislative branch has to date shown any interest or capability of seizing it back from him.

He’s still paranoid. He could end up in jail, have all that taken away, and watch his kids be in jail with him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 21, 2018 • 3:42:51pm

re: #179 Belafon

I think Trump wanted to remove the troops because he just decided to. Remember, he wanted to boycott the Olympics because NK was going to be there.

This is why, when people talk about him being smarter than we think, I think, “Nah.” He has a small bag of tricks, but the one thing he knows is how to play on white racial resentment.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 21, 2018 • 3:48:51pm

re: #182 Stanley Sea

This photo!!

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Retrievers. Big sloppy bundles of love.

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EPR-radar  May 21, 2018 • 3:49:52pm

re: #185 Blind Frog Belly White

This is why, when people talk about him being smarter than we think, I think, “Nah.” He has a small bag of tricks, but the one thing he knows is how to play on white racial resentment.

Trump won the primary and general elections in 2016 by being the True Voice of the Pig People.

This required no great political acumen or work on Trump’s part.

It is easy for Trump to be True Voice of the Pig People because he has been a Pig Person his entire life.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 21, 2018 • 3:53:18pm

re: #187 EPR-radar

Trump won the primary and general elections in 2016 by being the True Voice of the Pig People.

This required no great political acumen or work on Trump’s part.

It is easy for Trump to be True Voice of the Pig People because he has been a Pig Person his entire life.

The only thing that surprises me about his supporters is their numbers. I knew they were horrible people. I didn’t know they were 38% of America.

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Interesting Times  May 21, 2018 • 3:53:22pm

Okay, this is officially the creepiest thing I’ve seen all day, all the more so when you realize there was no photoshopping involved o_O

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 21, 2018 • 3:54:35pm

Texas governor’s campaign website drops shotgun voucher giveaway after school shooting

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott’s re-election website has abandoned a contest to give away a $250 voucher toward a shotgun purchase days after the slaying of 10 people at Santa Fe High School.

Previously, participants in the giveaway entered with a chance to win a $250 certificate that could be redeemable for a “Texas-made shotgun” at a licensed gun dealer in Central Texas, per the campaign’s website.
Now the website doesn’t mention the gun. It only offers a $250 gift certificate. The giveaway was dropped from the website after CNN’s story published on Sunday.

Took long enough. Worse yet, this was one of the few mass shootings in which the perp actually used a shotgun.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 3:54:59pm

re: #175 Blind Frog Belly White

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“For one thing, Trump is much taller, and acts WAY crazier.”

That is a “SOON” photobomb if I ever saw one.

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Big Beautiful Door  May 21, 2018 • 3:57:02pm

re: #190 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Texas governor’s campaign website drops shotgun voucher giveaway after school shooting

Took long enough. Worse yet, this was one of the few mass shootings in which the perp actually used a shotgun.

Which has the wingnuts crying See, banning AR-15s wouldn’t have stopped this shooting!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 21, 2018 • 4:01:18pm

Christ.

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DodgerFan1988  May 21, 2018 • 4:04:58pm

Of course The Alt-Right is going to defend the batshit crazy lawyer who went on a racist rant.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 21, 2018 • 4:08:45pm

re: #164 ipsos

Can you tell I’m kind of impassioned about this?

It feels like there’s a real line that some people are allowing themselves to get dragged across, and I have to believe that if they’re challenged, at least a few of them will see where they’re headed and stop.

The alternative is too depressing to contemplate.

Either allowing or not seeing they are. Propaganda is a helluva drug, and that statement (and now apparently on the White House Website) is naked agitprop.

If I had a friend or a family member who said such things and I could not get them to see reason (particularly my own family’s history), I would cut bait and not consider it a loss.

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sagehen  May 21, 2018 • 4:09:45pm

re: #143 Blind Frog Belly White

I think what this represents is lower wage individuals leaving, rather than a mass exodus, because it’s not like the vacancy rate is rising or housing costs are going down.

“Nobody goes there anymore. It’s too crowded.”

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People who are moving *TO* the Bay Area… have money. They hire moving companies. They don’t use U-Haul.

People who’ve just graduated Stanford, Cal, etc and didn’t get a job offer, that’s who needs U-Hauls to get where they’re going.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 21, 2018 • 4:15:18pm

Wonkette weighs in on a government (read GOP) plan to put nukes in orbit to stop asteroids from hitting Earth.

wonkette.com

One asteroid in particular is being looked at, which NASA launched a probe to last year, which will arrive in August and return samples to Earth in 2023.

Putting nukes in orbit couldn’t possibly be about having an offensive weapon in space now could it? (Particularly since putting nukes in orbit violates international treaties to which we’re party.)

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KGxvi  May 21, 2018 • 4:17:04pm

re: #197 Anymouse 🌹

wonkette.com

Wonkette weighs in on a government (read GOP) plan to put nukes in orbit to stop asteroids from hitting Earth.

wonkette.com

One asteroid in particular is being looked at, which NASA launched a probe to last year, which will arrive in August and return samples to Earth in 2023.

Putting nukes in orbit couldn’t possibly be about having an offensive weapon in space now could it? (Particularly since putting nukes in orbit violates international treaties to which we’re party.)

Why do we need nukes in space? Can’t we just send up an oil rig drill team with a bomb?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 21, 2018 • 4:18:15pm

re: #196 sagehen

People who are moving *TO* the Bay Area… have money. They hire moving companies. They don’t use U-Haul.

People who’ve just graduated Stanford, Cal, etc and didn’t get a job offer, that’s who needs U-Hauls to get where they’re going.

Or their new employers pay for the move.

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KGxvi  May 21, 2018 • 4:18:39pm

re: #193 Blind Frog Belly White

Who could have ever imagined that a highly leveraged, mostly incompetent, amoral fool like Trump could be bought off by foreign powers?

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teleskiguy  May 21, 2018 • 4:22:24pm

What’s old is new.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 21, 2018 • 4:25:54pm

re: #198 KGxvi

Why do we need nukes in space? Can’t we just send up an oil rig drill team with a bomb?

Nukes in space (if you’re using that as a weapon to hit Earth) are threatening and intimidating to other nations.

Conservatives have floated the idea of nukes in space before, treaties go hang. With the New Conservative Cruelty, there really isn’t much anyone can do to stop them if they want to do that.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 21, 2018 • 4:26:43pm

re: #200 KGxvi

Who could have ever imagined that a highly leveraged, mostly incompetent, amoral fool like Trump could be bought off by foreign powers?

I think we need to be more aware of this possibility in general. Pundits and know-it-alls are always preaching about bribery by corporations and wealthy individuals, and for good reason, but foreign governments seem to rarely make the suspect list. Even a pipsqueak national government has resources that only the biggest corporations and individuals could match, and they are largely immune to legal consequences, though not to consequences in general.

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teleskiguy  May 21, 2018 • 4:27:02pm
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KGxvi  May 21, 2018 • 4:28:17pm

re: #201 teleskiguy

Here’s what I don’t understand about intelligent design… human beings are very fucking poorly designed. Helpless for the first year or two of life, brittle bones, easily damaged brain with no back up, skin easily punctured, poor eyesight, bad hearing, slow, weak, terrible sense of smell, reproductive organs also used for procreation (that’s just lazy, really), food and air having the same entry point. I mean, seriously?

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Stanley Sea  May 21, 2018 • 4:28:39pm
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Patricia Kayden  May 21, 2018 • 4:31:21pm

re: #206 Stanley Sea

But her emails!!

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KGxvi  May 21, 2018 • 4:32:38pm

re: #203 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I think we need to be more aware of this possibility in general. Pundits and know-it-alls are always preaching about bribery by corporations and wealthy individuals, and for good reason, but foreign governments seem to rarely make the suspect list. Even a pipsqueak national government has resources that only the biggest corporations and individuals could match, and they are largely immune to legal consequences, though not to consequences in general.

The only thing that would presumably stop a foreign government from doing something like that is that if/when it’s found out (and it’s almost always found out, and in the case of these stupid motherfuckers, it’s found out by lunch), the blow back would be disastrous. The next administration would likely have no choice but to impose economic sanctions, cut off trade, possibly break off diplomatic ties. It’s a hell of a risk, especially for an “ally” to make a move like that, because the end result is a hostile relationship that will take a generation to mend.

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EPR-radar  May 21, 2018 • 4:33:23pm

re: #205 KGxvi

Here’s what I don’t understand about intelligent design… human beings are very fucking poorly designed. Helpless for the first year or two of life, brittle bones, easily damaged brain with no back up, skin easily punctured, poor eyesight, bad hearing, slow, weak, terrible sense of smell, reproductive organs also used for procreation (that’s just lazy, really), food and air having the same entry point. I mean, seriously?

The Intelligent Design movement leaders are mostly middle aged and older men. They cannot possibly think the human prostate is intelligently designed.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 21, 2018 • 4:34:40pm

re: #202 Anymouse 🌹

Nukes in space (if you’re using that as a weapon to hit Earth) are threatening and intimidating to other nations.

Conservatives have floated the idea of nukes in space before, treaties go hang. With the New Conservative Cruelty, there really isn’t much anyone can do to stop them if they want to do that.

Ya know, ROCKS are a lot cheaper and easier to come by in space, and all you gotta do is aim them and push….

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The Major  May 21, 2018 • 4:34:40pm

re: #197 Anymouse 🌹

Putting nukes in orbit couldn’t possibly be about having an offensive weapon in space now could it? (Particularly since putting nukes in orbit violates international treaties to which we’re party.)

Pray tell, what have our X-37B’s been doing for months at a time, loitering in space?…..

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Patricia Kayden  May 21, 2018 • 4:35:16pm

re: #194 DodgerFan1988

Latinos who speak Spanish are part of American culture. No different from Louisiana residents who speak Creole or Native Americans who speak their tribal languages.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 21, 2018 • 4:35:59pm

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KGxvi  May 21, 2018 • 4:36:17pm

re: #206 Stanley Sea

The question isn’t whether it’s been hacked, the question is how many intelligence agencies have hacked it? I’d put the over/under at 67.5

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wrenchwench  May 21, 2018 • 4:37:16pm

re: #209 EPR-radar

The Intelligent Design movement leaders are mostly middle aged and older men. They cannot possibly think the human prostate is intelligently designed.

Next up: Stupid Design. God is not very smart.

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Stanley Sea  May 21, 2018 • 4:37:42pm

re: #214 KGxvi

The question isn’t whether it’s been hacked, the question is how many intelligence agencies have hacked it? I’d put the over/under at 67.5

yup

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Patricia Kayden  May 21, 2018 • 4:38:04pm

re: #182 Stanley Sea

That chick on his head is taking liberties though.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 21, 2018 • 4:39:26pm

re: #209 EPR-radar

The Intelligent Design movement leaders are mostly middle aged and older men. They cannot possibly think the human prostate is intelligently designed.

The more I learn about human biology, the more obvious it is that we weren’t designed.

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Barefoot Grin  May 21, 2018 • 4:43:15pm

re: #218 Blind Frog Belly White

The more I learn about human biology, the more obvious it is that we weren’t designed.

The pelvic compromise.

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Charles Johnson  May 21, 2018 • 4:51:30pm
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Patricia Kayden  May 21, 2018 • 4:56:06pm
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gocart mozart  May 21, 2018 • 5:09:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 5:11:17pm

meddling in elections again.
moron.

what’s Asa got to say today?

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William Lewis  May 21, 2018 • 5:14:59pm

re: #211 The Major

Pray tell, what have our X-37B’s been doing for months at a time, loitering in space?…..

I think that a better designation for that craft might well be KH-13 … or at least the successor to the Keyhole satellites. Nukes in orbit are far less valuable than the recon.

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EPR-radar  May 21, 2018 • 5:15:09pm

re: #218 Blind Frog Belly White

The more I learn about human biology, the more obvious it is that we weren’t designed.

Another way to this easy conclusion is to note the staggering number of human ailments and afflictions that are autoimmune or otherwise instances of the body stupidly working against itself (like my frozen left shoulder, not so incidentally).

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EPR-radar  May 21, 2018 • 5:16:20pm

re: #224 William Lewis

I think that a better designation for that craft might well be KH-13 … or at least the successor to the Keyhole satellites. Nukes in orbit are far less valuable than the recon.

How convenient for Russia that any US spy satellite intelligence that reaches the House Intelligence Committee or the White House is in Moscow 5 minutes later.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 5:21:09pm

somebody save that dog!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 5:23:12pm
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William Lewis  May 21, 2018 • 5:23:53pm

re: #226 EPR-radar

How convenient for Russia that any US spy satellite intelligence that reaches the House Intelligence Committee or the White House is in Moscow 5 minutes later.

Yep. I’d like to see every one in that fucking group wearing orange jumpsuits and charged under the Espionage Act of 1917…

Meanwhile, 5th mission on day 251 is still in orbit having ridden a Falcon 9 upstairs doing whatever it does.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 5:26:58pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 21, 2018 • 5:28:28pm

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ZeBastard Dorka is so full of shit.

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Unabogie  May 21, 2018 • 5:30:01pm
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austin_blue  May 21, 2018 • 5:32:30pm

re: #231 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

ZeBastard Dorka is so full of shit.

Shouldn’t he be in jail somewhere?

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dangerman  May 21, 2018 • 5:32:48pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Cool, cool. The President tweets policy and makes private calls from an unhardened internet-connected always-on microphone and camera that he always keeps on his person and in the Oval Office

If it hasn’t been said “but her private email server” (that wasn’t hacked,)

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dangerman  May 21, 2018 • 5:35:21pm

Looks like maybe maybe maybe the last night in the hospital

To me, a layman, things appear to have turned an important corner

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KingKenrod  May 21, 2018 • 5:35:57pm

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s ultimately where Trump is going with all of this - he was framed. That’s going to be his defense. Which means he already knows he’s in the deepest of shit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 5:36:01pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 5:37:18pm

Not just in Wisconsin:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 5:41:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 5:44:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 5:47:26pm

yesterday was laze warnings…today there is this:

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 21, 2018 • 5:52:04pm

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

yesterday was laze warnings…today there is this:

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Caustic acids that can eat their way through solid metal, what could POSSIBLY go wrong?!

Evening Lizardim.

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CleverToad  May 21, 2018 • 5:54:58pm

re: #235 dangerman

Looks like maybe maybe maybe the last night in the hospital

To me, a layman, things appear to have turned an important corner

Fingers crossed for you guys!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 5:59:09pm

This link is really worth the click:

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teleskiguy  May 21, 2018 • 5:59:18pm

re: #235 dangerman

That’s good news! It’s a shame you and your wife had to visit Colorado in these circumstances. There’s all kinds of weird wonderful shit to see and do in the only state I’ve ever called home.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 6:00:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 6:01:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 6:05:25pm

heh…I had this same thought earlier.

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teleskiguy  May 21, 2018 • 6:08:35pm

Back when Twitter was relatively harmless.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 6:09:34pm
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Stanley Sea  May 21, 2018 • 6:14:12pm

re: #248 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh…I had this same thought earlier.

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How bout the ripped flag?

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Skip Intro  May 21, 2018 • 6:16:12pm

re: #182 Stanley Sea

This photo!!

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I’m suspicious about what happened to the mother duck. Could be a trap.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 6:17:41pm
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teleskiguy  May 21, 2018 • 6:18:04pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

Great newspaper! Funny enough, Aspen is a two-newspaper town, the Daily News and The Aspen Times. The Daily News is better at local journalism, IMO.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 6:19:18pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 21, 2018 • 6:19:41pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Internet is forever. Newspapers doubly so.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 6:20:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 6:24:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 6:30:45pm
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MsJ  May 21, 2018 • 6:35:04pm

I have my own Angry Bird in the yard. He tweets. A lot. It sounds like he’s actually saying “Tweet” but it comes out like TWEET! GODDAMNIT TWEET! TWEET!

I’ve never heard a bird like this. He’s…Pissed. About something.

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gocart mozart  May 21, 2018 • 6:35:25pm
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BeachDem  May 21, 2018 • 6:36:46pm

I am TOTALLY in the red zone.

Archie Parnell, who you might remember, I have been supporting since last year’s special election for Mick Mulvaney’s old seat, which he lost by just 3 points, was running for it again, raising beaucoup bucks and getting a lot of momentum. A smart, sweet, funny guy with a great campaign, and he was obviously doing well.

Today, it came out that 45 years ago (when he was 22), he beat his then wife up, she got a restraining order, then a divorce on the grounds of physical cruelty.

His staff abandoned him immediately; his endorsers have fled; the state chair called for him to drop out. Archie didn’t deny it—he admits he did it, but that he has changed his life since then. (And, as of an hour ago, wouldn’t agree to drop out.)

I don’t know what to think. It is horrible and I am NOT excusing what he did. But JFC, we have convicted felons running for office; and horrible, sleazy people IN office. I just don’t know anymore—I guess there is no such thing as turning your life around and receiving redemption. I guess there are some things you can’t atone for. But I know I did some pretty shitty stuff in my early 20s and I think I’m a different person now.

Maybe I’m equivocating because I really like the guy, but I am truly confused…and sad…and defeated.

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln…how is everyone else’s day going?

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JordanRules  May 21, 2018 • 6:39:02pm

re: #260 MsJ

I have my own Angry Bird in the yard. He tweets. A lot. It sounds like he’s actually saying “Tweet” but it comes out like TWEET! GODDAMNIT TWEET! TWEET!

I’ve never heard a bird like this. He’s…Pissed. About something.

He understands 2018.
Same MsJ’s Angry Bird, same.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 21, 2018 • 6:39:09pm

re: #261 gocart mozart

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That looked off, so I searched. Alas…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 6:39:22pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 21, 2018 • 6:41:37pm

re: #262 BeachDem

I’m a firm believer that one can turn one’s life around. I’ve seen it happen personally. However, don’t ever take that statement at face value. If he can back it up by showing he’s changed, great. If not, well, toss the bum out. I really believe we have gotten too reactionary on some of this stuff. (What happened to Senator Franken was a travesty.) I don’t agree with inappropriate behavior, but immediately castigating any hint of impropriety and calling for their resignation/dropping out of the race, even before the facts come out, is seriously counterproductive.

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BigBadDemocrat  May 21, 2018 • 6:43:46pm

Wow old Newt Gingrich is saying that Obama had to know!

Just WOW

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 21, 2018 • 6:45:51pm
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HappyWarrior  May 21, 2018 • 6:47:36pm

re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Pretty rich Tucker considering many Republicans in fact did embrace Assad because of Obama. Piss off.

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Targetpractice  May 21, 2018 • 6:49:45pm

re: #268 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Wingnut reasoning chain:

Trump spoke against MS-13 during his televised roundtable.

Democrats accused him of calling all immigrants “animals” in those remarks.

Thus Democrats are covering for MS-13 by making false accusations of racism against the President!

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teleskiguy  May 21, 2018 • 6:50:04pm

re: #267 BigBadDemocrat

What are you doing here?

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BeachDem  May 21, 2018 • 6:52:27pm

re: #266 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m a firm believer that one can turn one’s life around. I’ve seen it happen personally. However, don’t ever take that statement at face value. If he can back it up by showing he’s changed, great. If not, well, toss the bum out. I really believe we have gotten too reactionary on some of this stuff. (What happened to Senator Franken was a travesty.) I don’t agree with inappropriate behavior, but immediately castigating any hint of impropriety and calling for their resignation/dropping out of the race, even before the facts come out, is seriously counterproductive.

Thank you. I’m just gobsmacked. And can’t figure out why it never came out before (like during the special election last year.) There are court filings that, as far as I know, were not hidden. I know he should drop out, but the vitriol is killing me. And now his life is effectively ruined. And, as I said, I know the guy (not well, but have been around him many times) and never got a single bad vibe from him.

I am heartsick.

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plansbandc  May 21, 2018 • 6:52:44pm

re: #260 MsJ

We have a real concert singer bird in our neighborhood. I have potato quality pics of him, but here’s a cousin Curved Bill Thrasher singing the song of his people:

A Curve-Billed Thrasher Sings His Song

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BigBadDemocrat  May 21, 2018 • 6:53:07pm

re: #271 teleskiguy

Two jobs still no time much got to go to next shift soon

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Single-handed sailor  May 21, 2018 • 6:53:27pm

re: #267 BigBadDemocrat

Wow old Newt Gingrich is saying that Obama had to know!

Just WOW

Had to know that Trump was being approached by Russian agents? Yes, he was aware, and so were the Speaker of the House and the Senate Majority Leader who requested Obama not make it public.

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teleskiguy  May 21, 2018 • 6:54:14pm

re: #274 BigBadDemocrat

Hey asshole…

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BigBadDemocrat  May 21, 2018 • 6:56:26pm

re: #275 Single-handed sailor

Newt is a Old has been goof ball
No one pays attention to that old fool

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Single-handed sailor  May 21, 2018 • 6:58:21pm

re: #277 BigBadDemocrat

Newt is a Old has been goof ball
No one pays attention to that old fool

I didn’t pay attention to him in the 90s.

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BigBadDemocrat  May 21, 2018 • 6:59:20pm

re: #269 HappyWarrior

Tucker just a carnival barker he stick is to stir up crap to get viewers


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Detroit Local Powers First EV Charging Road in North America The road, about a mile from Local 58's hall, uses rubber-coated copper inductive-charging coils buried under the asphalt that transfer power to a receiver pad attached to a car's underbelly, much like how a phone can be charged wirelessly. ...
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