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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 11:50:23am
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Sir John Barron  May 23, 2018 • 11:52:27am

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

“We’ll ignore the court’s order because Rule of Law Transparency President of all the people, etc.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 11:53:32am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 11:53:48am
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Citizen K  May 23, 2018 • 11:56:20am

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They’re just going to pull an Andrew Jackson and go on with it and dare the court to enforce it, aren’t they?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 11:56:36am
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Kragar  May 23, 2018 • 11:57:13am
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The Ghost of a Flea  May 23, 2018 • 11:57:25am

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

Also, they’re called mass stabbings.

Fucking no language having people.

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Sir John Barron  May 23, 2018 • 11:58:29am

re: #7 Kragar

Trump on “alien minors” crossing the border: “They look so innocent. They’re not innocent.”

— Daniel Dale

“He only meant minors who are MS-13 members”

/

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Citizen K  May 23, 2018 • 11:58:46am

re: #7 Kragar

Said it in the last topic, but they’re just going to pull an Andrew Jackson and continue blocking people anyways, aren’t they? More ‘Fuck off, the law doesn’t actually apply to us’ bullshit.

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KGxvi  May 23, 2018 • 11:59:37am

The push back by the Courts will come in due time. We have to remember that the Courts are reactive rather than proactive. Judges don’t go out looking for cases to decide, people bring cases to the Courts. The obvious case here will be if/when Trump refuses to comply with a subpoena from Mueller. But there will likely be other cases because this is Stupid Watergate and it’s only right that we see multiple cases instead of just one.

As for Congress, the GOP leadership has thrown in with Trump for reasons that make no sense. That makes November critical, if the Democrats take back control of at least one House, they have control of the committees and can perform real push back.

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2018 • 11:59:49am
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 23, 2018 • 12:00:57pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“BREAKING: Openly gay, Hispanic ex-sheriff wins Democratic nomination for Texas governor to take on disabled Republican Governor in November.”

Imagine if that were the tweet.

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Dr Lizardo  May 23, 2018 • 12:01:27pm

re: #11 KGxvi

As for Congress, the GOP leadership has thrown in with Trump for reasons that make no sense.

They’ve decided they’re going down with the ship.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 23, 2018 • 12:02:16pm

re: #11 KGxvi

The push back by the Courts will come in due time. We have to remember that the Courts are reactive rather than proactive. Judges don’t go out looking for cases to decide, people bring cases to the Courts. The obvious case here will be if/when Trump refuses to comply with a subpoena from Mueller. But there will likely be other cases because this is Stupid Watergate and it’s only right that we see multiple cases instead of just one.

As for Congress, the GOP leadership has thrown in with Trump for reasons that make no sense. That makes November critical, if the Democrats take back control of at least one House, they have control of the committees and can perform real push back.

Putin has Kompromat on them!

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Belafon  May 23, 2018 • 12:04:30pm

re: #13 Blind Frog Belly White

“BREAKING: Openly gay, Hispanic ex-sheriff wins Democratic nomination for Texas governor to take on disabled Republican Governor in November.”

Imagine if that were the tweet.

“You don’t know what it’s like to be discriminated against,” Abbott says to Valdez sometime this fall.

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Belafon  May 23, 2018 • 12:04:54pm

re: #14 Dr Lizardo

They’ve decided they’re going down with the ship.

Racism is an addictive drug.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 23, 2018 • 12:05:56pm

Jared got his security clearance restored.

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JordanRules  May 23, 2018 • 12:06:31pm

re: #17 Belafon

Racism is an addictive drug.

It really is. I’d love to watch some brain scans on it.

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ericblair  May 23, 2018 • 12:07:40pm

re: #14 Dr Lizardo

They’ve decided they’re going down with the ship.

I’m guessing that a lot of them figure they’re going to go down with Trump as all the GOP dirty money gets chased down. Mueller and the courts are now picking at a bunch of threads that have been quietly sitting there for years. Most of the goopers in Congress are incompetent cowards who wouldn’t dare take a stand against the shitgibbon, and are likely hoping this all magically goes away somehow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 12:08:06pm
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JordanRules  May 23, 2018 • 12:08:27pm

He’s mad. I wonder if his girlfriend’s deleted tweets about their union is making him a bit aggravated.

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MsJ  May 23, 2018 • 12:09:08pm

re: #15 Joe Bacon 🌹

Putin has Kompromat on them!

Absolutely. 100%.

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KGxvi  May 23, 2018 • 12:09:11pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

In the good news/bad news category: Abbott is below 50% against Valdez, but still has a 12 point lead (with only 16% undecided). Cruz, shockingly, remains unpopular and only has a 7 point lead - unfortunately, there’s only 7% undecided (6% going to a third party candidate); but O’Rourke has room to grow as 39% of voters have no opinion of him.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 23, 2018 • 12:10:16pm

re: #18 GlutenFreeJesus

Jared got his security clearance restored.

OFFS.

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2018 • 12:10:42pm
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JordanRules  May 23, 2018 • 12:11:06pm

Informative thread!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 12:11:55pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 23, 2018 • 12:12:02pm

re: #11 KGxvi

The push back by the Courts will come in due time. We have to remember that the Courts are reactive rather than proactive. Judges don’t go out looking for cases to decide, people bring cases to the Courts. The obvious case here will be if/when Trump refuses to comply with a subpoena from Mueller. But there will likely be other cases because this is Stupid Watergate and it’s only right that we see multiple cases instead of just one.

As for Congress, the GOP leadership has thrown in with Trump for reasons that make no sense. That makes November critical, if the Democrats take back control of at least one House, they have control of the committees and can perform real push back.

We keep saying stuff like that - “Lower income white voters are voting against their own interest!”, but is it really true? It certainly isn’t true as THEY see their interest.

We look at Trumps’ bullshitting his supporters with promises that steel and coal are coming back, that his health care plan will cover everyone better for cheaper and be ‘so easy’, that he’d tax rich hedge fund managers more, and of course he breaks those promises and we say, “Will his White Working Class supporters leave him?”

No, they won’t. The things he was obviously lying about were just the icing on the cake for them. The Muslim Ban; deportations; ICE becoming the new SS; empowering cops to keep right on abusing black people; sticking it to experts and the media - THOSE were why they elected him and he’s doing those.

For the GOP in Congress, you gotta figure the entire ‘Freedom Caucus’ absolutely fucking LOVES what Trump is doing, and I’d bet a lot of the more ‘moderate’ GOPers are on the same page - but they’ve had to run as ‘Not A Swivel-Eyed Loon’ to get elected. And the ones who don’t like what he’s doing on immigration, or North Korea, or whatever fucking LOVE the tax cuts and the Conservative judges he’s nominating to the spots McConnell held open for him.

So, we need to stop thinking they don’t LOVE what he’s doing, and figure AT MOST they don’t like his style but love the results.

Right up till they lose their jobs.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 23, 2018 • 12:13:38pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

The man ran an agency that imported Eastern European teenage girls.

He has a lot of practice at this kind of deflection.

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Citizen K  May 23, 2018 • 12:13:53pm

re: #29 Blind Frog Belly White

We keep saying stuff like that - “Lower income white voters are voting against their own interest!”, but is it really true? It certainly isn’t true as THEY see their interest.

We look at Trumps’ bullshitting his supporters with promises that steel and coal are coming back, that his health care plan will cover everyone better for cheaper and be ‘so easy’, that he’d tax rich hedge fund managers more, and of course he breaks those promises and we say, “Will his White Working Class supporters leave him?”

No, they won’t. The things he was obviously lying about were just the icing on the cake for them. The Muslim Ban; deportations; ICE becoming the new SS; empowering cops to keep right on abusing black people; sticking it to experts and the media - THOSE were why they elected him and he’s doing those.

For the GOP in Congress, you gotta figure the entire ‘Freedom Caucus’ absolutely fucking LOVES what Trump is doing, and I’d bet a lot of the more ‘moderate’ GOPers are on the same page - but they’ve had to run as ‘Not A Swivel-Eyed Loon’ to get elected. And the ones who don’t like what he’s doing on immigration, or North Korea, or whatever fucking LOVE the tax cuts and the Conservative judges he’s nominating to the spots McConnell held open for him.

So, we need to stop thinking they don’t LOVE what he’s doing, and figure AT MOST they don’t like his style but love the results.

Right up till they lose their jobs.

IOW: Racism is precisely their interests.

And this country is far more racist than we would like to admit.

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JordanRules  May 23, 2018 • 12:13:58pm
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Belafon  May 23, 2018 • 12:14:16pm

re: #24 KGxvi

In the good news/bad news category: Abbott is below 50% against Valdez, but still has a 12 point lead (with only 16% undecided). Cruz, shockingly, remains unpopular and only has a 7 point lead - unfortunately, there’s only 7% undecided (6% going to a third party candidate); but O’Rourke has room to grow as 39% of voters have no opinion of him.

I think Beto has a good chance, and as he scoots around the country, more people will get to know him. Plus, I think Democratic turnout is going to be the largest it’s been since the modern political era (when conservatives here realize that Republicans represented them more). Valdez is going to be a long shot, but it’ll be closer than it would have been any other time.

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meteor  May 23, 2018 • 12:14:34pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 23, 2018 • 12:15:57pm

re: #31 Citizen K

IOW: Racism is precisely their interests.

And this country is far more racist than we would like to admit.

And yet all the other white people tell me they’re all the least racist person I’ll ever meet.

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2018 • 12:16:38pm
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Citizen K  May 23, 2018 • 12:18:19pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

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All this means that any expectation of restraint on ICE is null and void: They’ve pretty much been given a carte blanche to terrorist any and all brown folk at their leisure, damn the consequences, because hey, they’re probably all gang members anyways, therefore animals that don’t deserve proper treatment.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 23, 2018 • 12:19:54pm

“What is truth?” said Pontius Pilate…

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JordanRules  May 23, 2018 • 12:20:44pm

re: #29 Blind Frog Belly White

Yes indeed!!

And this is why I don’t think most elected GOPers are being blackmailed anymore. I used to think that. A few of them maybe are, but most of them have been waiting with open arms for their kinda Murrikan fascism to come and save them. And Fox has been priming the pump for decades.

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2018 • 12:23:21pm
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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2018 • 12:23:28pm

re: #38 Blind Frog Belly White

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“What is truth?” said Pontius Pilate…

The new alternative facts.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 23, 2018 • 12:23:34pm

re: #39 JordanRules

Yes indeed!!

And this is why I don’t think most elected GOPers are being blackmailed anymore. I used to think that. A few of them maybe are, but most of them have been waiting with open arms for their kinda Murrikan fascism to come and save them. And Fox has been priming the pump for decades.

Not with a bang, but with a simpleton.

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2018 • 12:24:47pm

You know how FB can reveal some people you used to know really kind of suck? Total opposite happens sometimes too. :)

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JordanRules  May 23, 2018 • 12:27:08pm
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Skip Intro  May 23, 2018 • 12:27:48pm

Congress Frees Big Banks From Regulations That Kept Them Only Obscenely Profitable

wonkette.com

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Teukka  May 23, 2018 • 12:29:04pm

Semi-OT, but I’m in an wingnut-infested facebook group, and they seem to deny the existence of the court order blocking DJT’s blocking on teh twitterz…

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2018 • 12:30:09pm

re: #46 Teukka

Semi-OT, but I’m in an wingnut-infested facebook group, and they seem to deny the existence of the court order blocking DJT’s blocking on teh twitterz…

Are Reuters or AP links too liberal err factually biased for them?

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Citizen K  May 23, 2018 • 12:31:00pm

Sigh…

I think I need a mental health break from politics. Everything seems so fucking dire and only getting worse, and worse, and worse, and proving America really is just the super-massive racist hellhole that Trump and his supporters want it to be. I’m fucking exhausted and depressed.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 23, 2018 • 12:31:00pm

re: #39 JordanRules

There’s the ones that want the system to fail, because they have fantasies about what ideology they can substitute in its place…with them at the top, as the arbiters.

There’s the ones that just want everything torn done because they want unfiltered power, and imagine they’ll be kings of the wasteland.

There’s the ones that are trying to pillage as much as possible.

Extortion is costly and risking. Giving people enough of what they want is much more efficient. If there weren’t oligarchs and international crooks pulling threads, the wingnuts would be doing almost exactly the same thing, just a little less brazenly.

The GOP has been defined by contempt for democratic norms for a long time. When they took in the Dixiecrats, Nixon, Reagan’s welfare queens and childlike liberals who could be ignored, Gingrich’s bullsht, Bush/Cheney fucking us all with Iraq and Homeland Security, birthers…at each step, the base accepted the premise that only they get to decide…and also that they didn’t own anything that went wrong. This didn’t come from nowhere.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 23, 2018 • 12:31:27pm
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JordanRules  May 23, 2018 • 12:31:38pm

re: #46 Teukka

Semi-OT, but I’m in an wingnut-infested facebook group, and they seem to deny the existence of the court order blocking DJT’s blocking on teh twitterz…

They deny every other part of reality. Sounds pretty par for the course, standard wingnuttia.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 23, 2018 • 12:32:15pm

I was talking with Mrs. FBW the other day, trying to explain why Trump kept attacking Sessions for not protecting him “like Holder protected Obama”, and I realized that Trump has completely bought into all the wingnut conspiracies about Obama, whether it be Benghazi, or the IRS thing, or whatever. To Trump, all these bullshit things that were endlessly investigated and turned out not to be true - they’re all TRUE, and so to him the only way Obama could have escaped unscathed is that Holder blocked the investigations somehow. Leave aside the fact that the GOP Congress investigated these things, too, and found nothing.

Trump believes them, because he, like a lot of his followers, really, truly believes what Fox News tells him more than he believes what his own Intelligence Community tells him.

We’re in this weird world now, where not only is Fox News essentially State Run Media, like Pravda in the old USSR, but also it’s the President’s primary source of information. This would be like Kruschev or Brezhnev telling Pravda what to print, but then BELIEVING IT, even knowing they’d made them print it.

We cannot get rid of these fuckers too soon.

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2018 • 12:32:32pm

re: #50 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Wish he were my Rep and not NRA bought Comstock.

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Belafon  May 23, 2018 • 12:32:54pm

re: #48 Citizen K

Sigh…

I think I need a mental health break from politics. Everything seems so fucking dire and only getting worse, and worse, and worse, and proving America really is just the super-massive racist hellhole that Trump and his supporters want it to be. I’m fucking exhausted and depressed.

Make sure you come back. There are plenty of people suffering from Trump and the GOP’s actions that need all the help they can get.

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Teukka  May 23, 2018 • 12:35:33pm

re: #47 HappyWarrior

Are Reuters or AP links too liberal err factually biased for them?

Apparently.
re: #51 JordanRules

They deny every other part of reality. Sounds pretty par for the course, standard wingnuttia.

Yeah. I wonder what their reaction will be when reality becomes too in-your-face and “NO. U.” for them to ignore… *eyes Tyvek suit*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 12:35:59pm
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Citizen K  May 23, 2018 • 12:36:48pm

re: #54 Belafon

Make sure you come back. There are plenty of people suffering from Trump and the GOP’s actions that need all the help they can get.

I’ll try, but the breakneck speed in which the Trump era has normalized or re-normalized the worst in this country has just left me feeling completely defeated and tired.

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2018 • 12:37:33pm

re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He’s such a pathetic liar.

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2018 • 12:38:07pm

re: #57 Citizen K

I’ll try, but the breakneck speed in which the Trump era has normalized or re-normalized the worst in this country has just left me feeling completely defeated and tired.

Just remember those who we’re fighting for.

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Mike Lamb  May 23, 2018 • 12:38:40pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

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And with that last Tweet, another McNaughton abomination is born….

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2018 • 12:38:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 12:39:16pm
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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2018 • 12:39:34pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

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Uh no.

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Belafon  May 23, 2018 • 12:40:20pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

Wow. So much wrong in so few words.

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KGxvi  May 23, 2018 • 12:41:19pm

re: #29 Blind Frog Belly White

For the GOP in Congress, you gotta figure the entire ‘Freedom Caucus’ absolutely fucking LOVES what Trump is doing, and I’d bet a lot of the more ‘moderate’ GOPers are on the same page - but they’ve had to run as ‘Not A Swivel-Eyed Loon’ to get elected. And the ones who don’t like what he’s doing on immigration, or North Korea, or whatever fucking LOVE the tax cuts and the Conservative judges he’s nominating to the spots McConnell held open for him.

So, we need to stop thinking they don’t LOVE what he’s doing, and figure AT MOST they don’t like his style but love the results.

Right up till they lose their jobs.

I completely agree about the Freedumb Caucus being fully on board with Trump (as well as those voters driven by racial resentment). As for the moderates, there are two explanations that seem reasonable: either they’re also on board as you’ve suggested; or they’re terrified of the GOP base and being challenged in the primary by A Swivel-Eyed Loon. So either: they agree and are terrible; or, they’re acting out of a sense of self-preservation and are terrible.

The end result of their terribleness should be enough for them to lose/retire. But I am still interested in the “why” because we can’t really understand everything without knowing that bit of information.

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Mike Lamb  May 23, 2018 • 12:41:24pm

re: #48 Citizen K

Sigh…

I think I need a mental health break from politics. Everything seems so fucking dire and only getting worse, and worse, and worse, and proving America really is just the super-massive racist hellhole that Trump and his supporters want it to be. I’m fucking exhausted and depressed.

It’s getting to the point where I don’t want to listen to NPR on the morning drive because the news is so aggravating.

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2018 • 12:41:33pm

re: #64 Belafon

Wow. So much wrong in so few words.

My favorite is still Tomi claiming Trump being elected means he can’t be impeached.

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wrenchwench  May 23, 2018 • 12:41:42pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

#TrumpLOL

It could be a thing.

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gocart mozart  May 23, 2018 • 12:41:47pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 12:41:51pm
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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2018 • 12:42:59pm

I hear the frustration and I’ve been there too but I’m seeing us nominate and elect some great people but I also know what I’m fighting for. I’m fighting for my fellow Americans to enjoy the same dream I did.

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Dr Lizardo  May 23, 2018 • 12:43:07pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

Most people won’t even notice this announcement.

But in October when millions of people are actually trying to renew their coverage, they wil

Just in time for the mid-terms.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 12:44:01pm
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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2018 • 12:44:15pm

re: #69 gocart mozart

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Just make sure your cousins don’t tell the teller you want the movie with the most boobies, and your cousins will be fine Cam.

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wrenchwench  May 23, 2018 • 12:44:26pm

re: #71 HappyWarrior

I hear the frustration and I’ve been there too but I’m seeing us nominate and elect some great people but I also know what I’m fighting for. I’m fighting for my fellow Americans to enjoy the same dream I did.

Spoken like an old person.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 12:44:58pm
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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2018 • 12:45:02pm

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Boo yah. Btw Sage is a former NFL player.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 23, 2018 • 12:45:33pm
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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2018 • 12:45:40pm

re: #75 wrenchwench

Spoken like an old person.

Well I ain’t so young anymore. I’m fighting for my niece and others like her.

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Varek Raith  May 23, 2018 • 12:45:58pm

re: #75 wrenchwench

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KGxvi  May 23, 2018 • 12:46:13pm

re: #46 Teukka

Semi-OT, but I’m in an wingnut-infested facebook group, and they seem to deny the existence of the court order blocking DJT’s blocking on teh twitterz…

You can always just give them the actual ruling.

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Dr Lizardo  May 23, 2018 • 12:47:42pm

I just saw a fireball burn up. Small one.

Noting it here so I can record the time. Happened less than one minute ago.

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2018 • 12:47:43pm

re: #80 Varek Raith

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I’m old enough to be a non malignant Stephen Miller.

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Sir John Barron  May 23, 2018 • 12:48:04pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

“I deny your reality and substitute my own.”

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KGxvi  May 23, 2018 • 12:50:08pm

re: #78 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The guy on the far right (heh) of that photo is straight out of central casting for “villainous heir now running a large corporation.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 12:51:10pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Boo yah. Btw Sage is a former NFL player.

Writing on Twitter, the former player attacked the new NFL initiative by saying that “forced patriotism is the opposite of freedom.”

He also said that, while he had the utmost respect for the men and women in America’s military, “peaceful protests are extremely important for us to remain a free country.”

Rosenfels then dropped the hammer on the NFL itself by quoting the official U.S. flag code that was established in the 1940s.

“The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery,” the code reads in part. “The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any way whatsoever.”

He then posted a photo of an official player jersey being sold by the NFL that incorporates the flag into a player’s number — which is a direct violation of the U.S. flag code.

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2018 • 12:51:28pm

re: #85 KGxvi

The guy on the far right (heh) of that photo is straight out of central casting for “villainous heir now running a large corporation.”

Him and Roger Stone both shop at the same 19th century London store.

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2018 • 12:52:05pm

re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Awesome.

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Mike Lamb  May 23, 2018 • 12:52:58pm

re: #84 Sir John Barron

“I deny your reality and substitute my own.”

Seriously, are we going to run back about 80% of the Bush administration?

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 23, 2018 • 12:53:20pm

re: #52 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s a narcissist thing, whether clinical or just lower-case n.

Beliefs exist to exalt the self. Everything else is negotiable. When the choice is telling a story that serves the former, previous stories are shed like a gecko tail.

This is how people can be cynics and idealists at once. This explains cult leaders, the incoherence-yet-vehemence of the NSDAP, and even individuals that oscillate from extreme belief to extreme belief. Ideas don’t exist outside the self-serving calculation.

I grew up watching this. My dad did it all the time, in extreme, fucking crazy ways, where the only consistent trend was (1) he was axiomatically correct and disagreement was inherently wrong and Wrong.

It’s like the idea of “not even wrong” that’s used in discussion of skepticism and empiriticsm: “not even hypocritical” because hypocrisy requires self-awareness.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 12:54:41pm
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Skip Intro  May 23, 2018 • 12:56:46pm

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

Lock all the bathrooms too. Taking a wee during the anthem is tantamount to treason.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 12:56:58pm

JFC

fuck you, yam…I got your “abandon resistance” right here:

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KGxvi  May 23, 2018 • 12:58:04pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

Considering that teams apparently viewed him as a starting quarterback, the NFL’s defense is going to have problems.

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KGxvi  May 23, 2018 • 12:59:06pm

re: #89 Mike Lamb

Seriously, are we going to run back about 80% of the Bush administration?

Just the bad parts… so yeah, 80% seems about right.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 12:59:13pm
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JordanRules  May 23, 2018 • 1:00:05pm
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Dr Lizardo  May 23, 2018 • 1:01:32pm

Regarding the fireball I saw, I reported it to Armagh Observatory.

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Varek Raith  May 23, 2018 • 1:02:49pm

re: #98 Dr Lizardo

Regarding the fireball I saw, I reported it to Armagh Observatory.

*Whistles innocently*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 1:03:03pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 23, 2018 • 1:04:13pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

Related to the image in that tweet

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 1:04:38pm

anymouse about to have another interesting weather day:

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2018 • 1:04:53pm
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Sir John Barron  May 23, 2018 • 1:06:18pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Really? In Andrew McCabe’s email, he said he was giving a top secret story to CNN to be released when he told them to…then he says “it came from the top” (Obama). That’s a problem. People are going to jail! Read the documents.

— FLOrangeQueen

What documents?

“Use the Google I don’t have to do your research for you!!!!”

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KGxvi  May 23, 2018 • 1:06:48pm

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

What do they have to hide?

That would make a great central theme for Democrats in the general election.

Trump wants to shut down the investigation into his campaign’s malfeasance? What do they have to hide? Pruitt won’t allow journalists or even average citizens in the room with him? What do they have to hide? The White House won’t release visitor logs? What do they have to hide? House Republicans won’t provide proper oversight? What do they have to hide?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 1:06:51pm

LOLOLOLOL!
Actually, it all depends on exactly who is handing out the clearances.

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Dr Lizardo  May 23, 2018 • 1:07:28pm

re: #99 Varek Raith

*Whistles innocently*

Heh.

That was the first fireball I’ve ever seen. Pretty cool.

A couple of years ago, at about 3:00 A.M. my local time, I was out on my balcony (a touch of insomnia) and I saw a very bright flash in the sky - lit up everything. Followed by a massive boom.

And there wasn’t a cloud in the sky - perfectly clear conditions. I figured it had to be some kind of bolide exploding. There were some reports from locals who’d reported being either awakened by the blast (which was pretty damn loud) or seeing the same thing I did…..a bright flash in the night sky followed by an almighty boom.

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Sir John Barron  May 23, 2018 • 1:07:42pm

re: #97 JordanRules

No, too early to politicize deaths from the innocent AR-15.

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CongoJack  May 23, 2018 • 1:07:53pm

re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth

anymouse about to have another interesting weather day:

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I’m at the southern tip of that and the big cell of storms just passed to the east/southeast of me (thank goodness). If you have a moment search for info on the flood/hail in Fort Collins, CO yesterday (I’d do it for ya but at work). It looked nasty.

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JordanRules  May 23, 2018 • 1:07:57pm

re: #101 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Related to the image in that tweet

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Their policy wording is pretty subjective. It could get interesting.

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Belafon  May 23, 2018 • 1:09:04pm

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOL!
Actually, it all depends on exactly who is handing out the clearances.

They don’t understand that Trump can hand them out like candy if he wants.

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KGxvi  May 23, 2018 • 1:10:03pm
White House press secretary Sarah Sanders says it bugs her when people accuse of her lying to the press.

“It certainly bothers me,” she told The New York Times in a Wednesday article. “Because one of the few things you have are your integrity and reputation.”

Perhaps, then, Ms. Sanders, you might want to try telling the cotdam truth.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 23, 2018 • 1:10:19pm

Meal Team 666! The camo kluxer robe is new to me, though hardly surprising.

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Sir John Barron  May 23, 2018 • 1:10:43pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Really? In Andrew McCabe’s email, he said he was giving a top secret story to CNN to be released when he told them to…then he says “it came from the top” (Obama). That’s a problem. People are going to jail! Read the documents.

— FLOrangeQueen

There is literally no factual information in this tweet.

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Varek Raith  May 23, 2018 • 1:12:04pm

re: #113 KGxvi

Perhaps, then, Ms. Sanders, you might want to try telling the cotdam truth.

She has the self awareness of a void.

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2018 • 1:12:05pm
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JordanRules  May 23, 2018 • 1:12:05pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 23, 2018 • 1:13:20pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

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I got a feeling that’s yet another Russian bot!

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Mike Lamb  May 23, 2018 • 1:16:37pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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Fuck, the amount of lying is just….fuck.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 1:17:06pm
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KGxvi  May 23, 2018 • 1:18:42pm

re: #118 JordanRules

Refusing to waive the right to a speedy trial can work as a pressure tactic on small cases because more often than not the prosecutor is relying on the investigation done by law enforcement. A local assistant DA doesn’t have the time/resources to interview witnesses and confirm facts.

In this case, the prosecutor (who just happens to be the former head of a little agency called the FBI) has spent a year collecting evidence and building a case. The fact that there are rooms full of bankers boxes worth of documentary evidence is no surprise. The defense would be at a major disadvantage if they only gave themselves a two months to review everything before a trial.

In other words: it was a tactical mistake that someone who hasn’t defended a major case like this would make.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 1:19:04pm

AHA!!!

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2018 • 1:19:40pm
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Dr Lizardo  May 23, 2018 • 1:20:07pm

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

And there you go.

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Varek Raith  May 23, 2018 • 1:20:11pm

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

AHA!!!

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Lol, what a clusterfuck.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 23, 2018 • 1:20:38pm

re: #90 The Ghost of a Flea

It’s a narcissist thing, whether clinical or just lower-case n.

Beliefs exist to exalt the self. Everything else is negotiable. When the choice is telling a story that serves the former, previous stories are shed like a gecko tail.

This is how people can be cynics and idealists at once. This explains cult leaders, the incoherence-yet-vehemence of the NSDAP, and even individuals that oscillate from extreme belief to extreme belief. Ideas don’t exist outside the self-serving calculation.

I grew up watching this. My dad did it all the time, in extreme, fucking crazy ways, where the only consistent trend was (1) he was axiomatically correct and disagreement was inherently wrong and Wrong.

It’s like the idea of “not even wrong” that’s used in discussion of skepticism and empiriticsm: “not even hypocritical” because hypocrisy requires self-awareness.

It is so hard for me to grasp people not understanding that truth exists outside of, and completely independent of their perceptions/beliefs/desires.

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Skip Intro  May 23, 2018 • 1:21:45pm

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

AHA!!!

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You’re surprised?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 1:24:31pm

re: #128 Skip Intro

You’re surprised?

nope.
just extremely satisfied that my gut reaction was correct.

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garzooma  May 23, 2018 • 1:25:05pm

re: #105 KGxvi

What do they have to hide?

That would make a great central theme for Democrats in the general election.

Trump wants to shut down the investigation into his campaign’s malfeasance? What do they have to hide? Pruitt won’t allow journalists or even average citizens in the room with him? What do they have to hide? The White House won’t release visitor logs? What do they have to hide? House Republicans won’t provide proper oversight? What do they have to hide?

Michael Tomasky writes that Democrats seem to prefer the manifestly losing strategy of not talking about Trump.

My colleagues Sam Stein and Gideon Resnick reported that congressional Democrats were refusing to go on cable shows because they want to talk about prescription drug prices but cable wants to talk about Trump. Then I reported that four leading Democratic presidential hopefuls seemed to go out of their way at a major liberal conference to avoid mentioning the president.

This is a guaranteed losing strategy. …

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S'latch  May 23, 2018 • 1:25:10pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

No, “Mueller isn’t investing a crime.” He’s investigating lots of crimes.

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KGxvi  May 23, 2018 • 1:29:10pm

re: #130 garzooma

Michael Tomasky writes that Democrats seem to prefer the manifestly losing strategy of not talking about Trump.

I’m of the mind that they can and should do both. You can tie Trump’s corruption and otherwise shitty policy into your stated policy preferences. But I also think that makes the most sense for the general election, more than the primaries.

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JordanRules  May 23, 2018 • 1:30:40pm

re: #132 KGxvi

I’m of the mind that they can and should do both. You can tie Trump’s corruption and otherwise shitty policy into your stated policy preferences. But I also think that makes the most sense for the general election, more than the primaries.

I will try to find the story I posted a week or so ago showing that Dems are doing both and both is working.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 1:32:35pm
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Skip Intro  May 23, 2018 • 1:33:39pm

re: #129 Backwoods_Sleuth

nope.
just extremely satisfied that my gut reaction was correct.

I won’t be surprised when Trump retroactively pardons his entire administration and family for anything they may have done or will do for the next 1000 years. That will get his approval rating into the 60s easily.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 1:34:08pm

heh

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plansbandc  May 23, 2018 • 1:34:59pm

I fucking hate the alleged VP almost as much as the orange piece of shit. JFC.

Winning by nullifying peaceful protest? Go fuck yourself.

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Skip Intro  May 23, 2018 • 1:35:17pm
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JordanRules  May 23, 2018 • 1:36:22pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Varek Raith  May 23, 2018 • 1:37:21pm

What’s Musk all butthurt about?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 1:38:00pm

re: #140 Varek Raith

What’s Musk all butthurt about?

something about his girlfriend

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JordanRules  May 23, 2018 • 1:39:09pm

My word, he just talks and talks.

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goddamnedfrank  May 23, 2018 • 1:42:34pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

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heh

She really should have stopped there.

Musk is fundamentally correct about how the modern media economy works and these same forces shaped coverage of the 2016 election and continue to normalize Trump.

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Varek Raith  May 23, 2018 • 1:42:38pm

Rudy was hired to help Trump, right?
Right?

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ObserverArt  May 23, 2018 • 1:43:15pm

re: #71 HappyWarrior

I hear the frustration and I’ve been there too but I’m seeing us nominate and elect some great people but I also know what I’m fighting for. I’m fighting for my fellow Americans to enjoy the same dream I did.

We are all frustrated. But, if we give up Trump wins. His whole deal is to make people give up. And it is working on some people. That is a GOP success.

Also, you can make yourself miserable by wallowing in the negative. Negativity doesn’t do anyone any good.

Negativity is Trump’s tool. It is how he won the damn election. And now he uses it to keep his opponents down.

He and the GOP want liberals to feel frustrated and defeated, it helps depress the voting and they live on that. It is all they have anymore. Why let them use that power?

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JordanRules  May 23, 2018 • 1:43:26pm
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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2018 • 1:45:08pm

re: #145 ObserverArt

We are all frustrated. But, if we give up Trump wins. His whole deal is to make people give up. And it is working on some people. That is a GOP success.

Also, you can make yourself miserable by wallowing in the negative. Negativity doesn’t do anyone any good.

Negativity is Trump’s tool. It is how he won the damn election. And now he uses it to keep his opponents down.

He and the GOP want liberals to feel frustrated and defeated, it helps keep depress the voting and they live on that. It is all they have anymore. Why let them use that power?

Absolutely. I’m not giving up. May be doing some campaign work this weekend.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 23, 2018 • 1:47:14pm

The roofer just arrived and after looking at the damage in our bedroom and kitchen (there was hidden damage there as well he discovered), he is now on the roof inspecting the tornado damage up there.

He says he will need to bring a framer in to check a damaged rafter.

Good thing he’s on it now (he was delayed getting here from another job out in the county) because we’re under a severe thunderstorm watch now (the weather radio kindly informed us).

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KGxvi  May 23, 2018 • 1:47:43pm

Interesting read in the LA Times:

At 84 and seeking a fifth full term in November, Feinstein has moved left as well, though not far enough for some Democrats. She still gets boos from her party’s progressive wing. But on a series of issues, Feinstein is changing long-held positions, at times overriding her time-tested instinct for centrism.

Most surprising, Feinstein recently announced quietly that she no longer supports capital punishment — a dramatic reversal of the position she embraced during that iconic appearance at the 1990 convention.

Similarly, after decades opposing legalizing marijuana use, Feinstein said this month that she supports a federal law keeping the government from interfering in states such as California that choose to legalize marijuana use.

For the record, I like Feinstein, and have voted for her more often than not. But there is a part of me that wonders if it’s time for a change.

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Mike Lamb  May 23, 2018 • 1:47:53pm

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I really don’t understand why the media thinks that being under investigation would be in any way disqualifying for this administration. In a sane world, he’d have been bounced on his ass after the first misrememberance on his clearance application. Check that, in a sane world, such an under-qualified choad wouldn’t be able to take a tour of the White House, much less be part of the admin.

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2018 • 1:50:37pm

re: #149 KGxvi

Interesting read in the LA Times:

For the record, I like Feinstein, and have voted for her more often than not. But there is a part of me that wonders if it’s time for a change.

Could be a good time for a new voice. I liked Boxer too but Kamala has represented well.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 23, 2018 • 1:51:05pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

She wrote “investing a crime.” Poor English writer, or bad auto-correction.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 1:53:17pm
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JordanRules  May 23, 2018 • 1:53:18pm
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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2018 • 1:54:06pm

re: #154 JordanRules

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And he has the nerve to complain about the media.

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goddamnedfrank  May 23, 2018 • 1:55:55pm

re: #143 goddamnedfrank

Musk’s biggest problem is that he’s too reactionary and tends to get out over his skis when it comes to making promises on a too optimistic timeline. This makes him an easy target for the cynically disaffected and oh so savvy to bait. He’d be much better off if he’d just relax a bit and let his innovations speak for themselves.

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JordanRules  May 23, 2018 • 1:56:03pm

re: #150 Mike Lamb

I really don’t understand why the media thinks that being under investigation would be in any way disqualifying for this administration. In a sane world, he’d have been bounced on his ass after the first misrememberance on his clearance application. Check that, in a sane world, such an under-qualified choad wouldn’t be able to take a tour of the White House, much less be part of the admin.

Exactly right! And the full context is important here. None of it should have been acceptable. All this has been normalized in under 2 years.

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sagehen  May 23, 2018 • 1:56:56pm

re: #11 KGxvi

The push back by the Courts will come in due time. We have to remember that the Courts are reactive rather than proactive. Judges don’t go out looking for cases to decide, people bring cases to the Courts.

That depends entirely on how many circuit court judges, appellate court judges, and supremes he gets to install.

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KGxvi  May 23, 2018 • 1:57:24pm

re: #151 HappyWarrior

Could be a good time for a new voice. I liked Boxer too but Kamala has represented well.

Interestingly, there’s a new poll for the Senate and gubernatorial races that includes every candidate in our blanket primary and it shows 41% undecided in the Senate election. I suspect that probably half of that is Republicans having not coalesced around a candidate (read: nobody has heard of any of these people). Same thing happening in the governor’s race with 38% undecided, but I’m not sure what’s happening there either.

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Skip Intro  May 23, 2018 • 2:00:04pm

re: #149 KGxvi

Interesting read in the LA Times:

For the record, I like Feinstein, and have voted for her more often than not. But there is a part of me that wonders if it’s time for a change.

84 is too damn old. She should have hung it up this year and given someone new a chance. We wouldn’t have Kamala Harris now if Barbara Boxer had been as clueless as Feinstein.

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freetoken  May 23, 2018 • 2:01:42pm

re: #159 KGxvi

69% of those polled disapprove of Trump.

That’s got to be some sort of record.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 23, 2018 • 2:02:28pm

re: #158 sagehen

That depends entirely on how many circuit court judges, appellate court judges, and supremes he gets to install.

Well, as Sen. McConnell said, the President shouldn’t get to nominate judges when the campaign is on; the people should decide.

Since Trump filed for reëlection the day after he was sworn in … oh right, the GOP has been hypocrites all my life.

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JordanRules  May 23, 2018 • 2:03:06pm
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KGxvi  May 23, 2018 • 2:03:33pm

re: #158 sagehen

That depends entirely on how many circuit court judges, appellate court judges, and supremes he gets to install.

I doubt it. Three of the justices in US v Nixon were appointed by Nixon, and they ruled 8-0 against him (Rehnquist recused himself since he had worked in the Nixon Administration). Ginsberg and Breyer joined a unanimous court in Jones v Clinton as well. I don’t think the Courts will willingly concede power to another branch.

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freetoken  May 23, 2018 • 2:05:29pm

re: #163 JordanRules

Football is armies-on-turf simulations.

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ObserverArt  May 23, 2018 • 2:07:01pm

re: #124 Charles Johnson

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And after seeing him there with Trump today…fuck Peter King.

Come on New York district that King represents…get your shit together. You can do better than this clod.

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ObserverArt  May 23, 2018 • 2:08:04pm

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

AHA!!!

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Sleuth does better digging and reporting than an investigative journalist from NBC.

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gocart mozart  May 23, 2018 • 2:12:18pm

Interesting
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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2018 • 2:14:35pm

re: #168 gocart mozart

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Ha so true.

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CongoJack  May 23, 2018 • 2:15:01pm

re: #168 gocart mozart

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Dolt 45s ties are too short in those paintings….

hands are too big as well.

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JordanRules  May 23, 2018 • 2:15:41pm

What is going on here?? LOL

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2018 • 2:19:15pm

re: #171 JordanRules

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What is going on here?? LOL

Okay…

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Anymouse 🌹  May 23, 2018 • 2:21:14pm

The roofer has finished inspecting. He estimates the total cost of replacing both our roofs and repairing the damage to the ceiling inside will be $5,005.

My wife told him she thinks that last $5 might break us.

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William Lewis  May 23, 2018 • 2:23:52pm

So. Remember that job opportunity I posted about the other day?

Insurance sales. Ok. I can do sales, but health insurance?

Oh and BTW, 100% commission based pay.

Nope. Nope. Nope. (Imagine a funny GIF here).

Sigh, back to the hunt.

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ObserverArt  May 23, 2018 • 2:24:35pm

re: #157 JordanRules

Exactly right! And the full context is important here. None of it should have been acceptable. All this has been normalized in under 2 years.

Thank the Republican party for the assists. They are a big part of how it is getting normalized.

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gocart mozart  May 23, 2018 • 2:27:16pm
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ObserverArt  May 23, 2018 • 2:28:05pm

re: #171 JordanRules

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What is going on here?? LOL

Modern America. Isn’t it something?

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Anymouse 🌹  May 23, 2018 • 2:29:12pm

re: #171 JordanRules

Look at my boyfriend trying to drag my husband and his colleagues on the tweeter. Don’t let your jealousy get the better of you, Elon!

Boyfriend dragging her husband?

I sense an erotic Romance novel in the making … need to call the publisher I work for to get an author on this one stat.

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Renaissance_Man  May 23, 2018 • 2:29:43pm

re: #164 KGxvi

I doubt it. Three of the justices in US v Nixon were appointed by Nixon, and they ruled 8-0 against him (Rehnquist recused himself since he had worked in the Nixon Administration). Ginsberg and Breyer joined a unanimous court in Jones v Clinton as well. I don’t think the Courts will willingly concede power to another branch.

Those justices didn’t watch a lot of FOX.

This is a new era - being appointed back then still meant a certain level of competence and respect for the law, neither of which applies any more. Trump appointees are chosen for ideology, which directly translates to how much they believe in the cult. Competence is not required, either for appointment or confirmation, and is in fact a hindrance.

Republican Congresspeople now mostly belong to a destructive cult that is actively opposing the United States, which is a reality that would never have been countenanced previously. They have willingly conceded power to a network of oligarchs and criminals. I see no reason to believe the US courts cannot similarly be overcome by converting its members into insane cultists.

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Sir John Barron  May 23, 2018 • 2:31:11pm

re: #176 gocart mozart

This is completely different because

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Sir John Barron  May 23, 2018 • 2:32:13pm

re: #173 Anymouse 🌹

The roofer has finished inspecting. He estimates the total cost of replacing both our roofs and repairing the damage to the ceiling inside will be $5,005.

My wife told him she thinks that last $5 might break us.

Home insurance will cover, right?

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goddamnedfrank  May 23, 2018 • 2:32:24pm

re: #171 JordanRules

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What is going on here?? LOL

A joke. Andrea Grimes is not the Canadian artist called Grimes who is dating Musk.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 23, 2018 • 2:33:48pm
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JordanRules  May 23, 2018 • 2:35:42pm

re: #179 Renaissance_Man

Those justices didn’t watch a lot of FOX.

This is a new era - being appointed back then still meant a certain level of competence and respect for the law, neither of which applies any more. Trump appointees are chosen for ideology, which directly translates to how much they believe in the cult. Competence is not required, either for appointment or confirmation, and is in fact a hindrance.

Republican Congresspeople now mostly belong to a destructive cult that is actively opposing the United States, which is a reality that would never have been countenanced previously. They have willingly conceded power to a network of oligarchs and criminals. I see no reason to believe the US courts cannot similarly be overcome by converting its members into insane cultists.

I think we’ve jumped over a few norms already too.
Forgive me because I don’t remember the details but it was something like advancing judicial appointments that the Bar Association said weren’t qualified and eschewing home state Senator approval.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 23, 2018 • 2:36:26pm

re: #181 Sir John Barron

Home insurance will cover, right?

Yes, minus our deductible.

There are several people in my town who are in a bad way now because they don’t carry homeowner’s insurance and have severe damage to their homes. (Two homes had trees come through the roofs.)

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JordanRules  May 23, 2018 • 2:37:19pm

re: #182 goddamnedfrank

A joke. Andrea Grimes is not the Canadian artist called Grimes who is dating Musk.

Oh good, cause it was funny.

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Anymouse 🌹  May 23, 2018 • 2:40:21pm
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ObserverArt  May 23, 2018 • 2:42:41pm

re: #187 Anymouse 🌹

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He always states a clear message!

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dangerman  May 23, 2018 • 2:44:54pm

re: #149 KGxvi

Interesting read in the LA Times:

For the record, I like Feinstein, and have voted for her more often than not. But there is a part of me that wonders if it’s time for a change.

i hear and read this a lot

if it’s time for a change then soemone has to run against her, appeal to enough people and win

otherwise in the sphere of politics, it doesnt mean much of anything

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JordanRules  May 23, 2018 • 2:46:37pm

The team where it all started.

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KGxvi  May 23, 2018 • 2:47:33pm

re: #179 Renaissance_Man

Those justices didn’t watch a lot of FOX.

This is a new era - being appointed back then still meant a certain level of competence and respect for the law, neither of which applies any more. Trump appointees are chosen for ideology, which directly translates to how much they believe in the cult. Competence is not required, either for appointment or confirmation, and is in fact a hindrance.

Republican Congresspeople now mostly belong to a destructive cult that is actively opposing the United States, which is a reality that would never have been countenanced previously. They have willingly conceded power to a network of oligarchs and criminals. I see no reason to believe the US courts cannot similarly be overcome by converting its members into insane cultists.

Well, luckily, the two grand juries are in the 4th Circuit, where Trump has yet to appoint a judge to the Court of Appeal (he has two pending nominations). And he only has one appointee on the Supreme Court. Roberts, for all his flaws, does seem to understand the importance of not only the Supreme Court but the courts generally as a co-equal branch and I can’t see him ruling for Trump in these kinds of cases. And the issue is likely too important to have anything other than a unanimous ruling (Alito would be the most likely to argue for executive privilege, but I don’t think that’s likely either).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 23, 2018 • 2:49:36pm
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KGxvi  May 23, 2018 • 2:50:11pm

re: #189 dangerman

i hear and read this a lot

if it’s time for a change then soemone has to run against her, appeal to enough people and win

otherwise in the sphere of politics, it doesnt mean much of anything

Well, de Leon is running against her, and I suspect it will be D vs D in the general, so perhaps we will see that change.

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MsJ  May 23, 2018 • 2:54:10pm

re: #173 Anymouse 🌹

The roofer has finished inspecting. He estimates the total cost of replacing both our roofs and repairing the damage to the ceiling inside will be $5,005.

My wife told him she thinks that last $5 might break us.

They told me $23k to fix my house. I put it closer to $40k. We’re in litigation now.

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Charles Johnson  May 23, 2018 • 2:58:57pm
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Anymouse 🌹  May 23, 2018 • 3:00:15pm

re: #194 MsJ

They told me $23k to fix my house. I put it closer to $40k. We’re in litigation now.

Yikes. $40,000 is more than every thing we own is worth.

The roofer in question (Wildcat Roofing and Firearms Supply) is the company everyone in town recommends for work. The insurance company also recommended them.

Right now they’re busier than a one-armed paper hanger. The roofer noted they had four other projects just up the dirt road from us, a couple here in town now, and had to move a shooting range yesterday.

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KGxvi  May 23, 2018 • 3:03:15pm

re: #196 Anymouse 🌹

Yikes. $40,000 is more than every thing we own is worth.

The roofer in question (Wildcat Roofing and Firearms Supply) is the company everyone in town recommends for work. The insurance company also recommended them.

Right now they’re busier than a one-armed paper hanger. The roofer noted they had four other projects just up the dirt road from us, a couple here in town now, and had to move a shooting range yesterday.

That feels like a Simpsons joke name for a store.

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Dave In Austin  May 23, 2018 • 3:03:41pm
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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2018 • 3:07:19pm

re: #195 Charles Johnson

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Will he do anything is the better question.

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JordanRules  May 23, 2018 • 3:07:32pm
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MsJ  May 23, 2018 • 3:07:39pm

re: #196 Anymouse 🌹

Yikes. $40,000 is more than every thing we own is worth.

The roofer in question (Wildcat Roofing and Firearms Supply) is the company everyone in town recommends for work. The insurance company also recommended them.

Right now they’re busier than a one-armed paper hanger. The roofer noted they had four other projects just up the dirt road from us, a couple here in town now, and had to move a shooting range yesterday.

I was just saying watch before signing checks from the insurance company.

I had a water leak. Before the tenant got the water turned off it ruined part of the upstairs wood flooring, the walls on the first floor bedroom below the bathroom, the first floor wood flooring and the basement ceiling. It cost $14k just to mitigate and dry out. And it was supposed to only be $9k for all the repairs?

Just saying the insurance company isn’t looking out for you or your house. Because you’re part of a CAT (catastrophe) claim, you might fare better. Just be aware.

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2018 • 3:07:50pm

re: #198 Dave In Austin

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Imagine how it feel being lied to.

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TedStriker  May 23, 2018 • 3:08:35pm

re: #195 Charles Johnson

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Which means that Congressional Republicans will demand Bridenstine’s immediate resignation; if he refuses to do that, they’ll push Trump to fire him.

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HappyWarrior  May 23, 2018 • 3:08:48pm

re: #200 JordanRules

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So Jared enabled a purge. Lovely guy but yeah we should see him and Ivanka as “moderating influences.”

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ObserverArt  May 23, 2018 • 3:10:44pm

re: #196 Anymouse 🌹

Yikes. $40,000 is more than every thing we own is worth.

The roofer in question (Wildcat Roofing and Firearms Supply) is the company everyone in town recommends for work. The insurance company also recommended them.

Right now they’re busier than a one-armed paper hanger. The roofer noted they had four other projects just up the dirt road from us, a couple here in town now, and had to move a shooting range yesterday.

Wildcat Roofing and Firearms Supply: We’re hell with a nail gun. Every shingle on target. Offering extra protection for your new roof and home with one of our fine firearms.

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TedStriker  May 23, 2018 • 3:12:59pm

re: #205 ObserverArt

Wildcat Roofing and Firearms Supply: We’re hell with a nail gun. Every shingle on target. Offering extra protection for your new roof and home with one of our fine firearms.

Wildcat Roofing and Firearms Supply: Come for the shingles and the flashing, stay for the gunpowder and Tannerite.

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Dave In Austin  May 23, 2018 • 3:14:18pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 23, 2018 • 3:16:37pm

re: #197 KGxvi

That feels like a Simpsons joke name for a store.

Sell ‘em a roof. Sell ‘em guns and bullets to shoot holes in the roof. Charge ‘em for patching the holes.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 23, 2018 • 3:18:18pm

re: #198 Dave In Austin

If only there were some way to avoid that.

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TedStriker  May 23, 2018 • 3:18:21pm

re: #207 Dave In Austin

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Being a gibbering moron really should hurt more, but, considering one is POTUS, I stand dejected.

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TedStriker  May 23, 2018 • 3:19:58pm

re: #209 Blind Frog Belly White

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If only there were some way to avoid that.

Somehow, I don’t think that honest introspection is in Sarah’s wheelhouse…

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 23, 2018 • 3:22:28pm

re: #211 TedStriker

Somehow, I don’t think that honest introspection is in Sarah’s wheelhouse…

Where would she have learned it? Not from her Dad, that’s for goddam sure.

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TedStriker  May 23, 2018 • 3:24:55pm

re: #212 Blind Frog Belly White

Where would she have learned it? Not from her Dad, that’s for goddam sure.

No shit…

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JordanRules  May 23, 2018 • 3:24:58pm

Good thread. Actual public servants sound so much different than crime families.

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BigPapa  May 23, 2018 • 3:26:36pm

So sick of Tammy Lala, the Crisis Pornstar.

Might be time for the Twitter filter.

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JordanRules  May 23, 2018 • 3:26:49pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 23, 2018 • 3:32:47pm

re: #216 JordanRules

The Right spent 40 or more years convincing everyone that all government, and all politicians are corrupt by 1) accusing Democrats of corruption scandal after corruption scandal and 2) Being corrupt as fuck themselves. Then they went with a sales pitch that’s basically, “Yeah, we’re corrupt. But we REALLY hate brown and black people. Vote for us!”

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dangerman  May 23, 2018 • 3:38:00pm

re: #197 KGxvi

That feels like a Simpsons joke name for a store.

i once knew a combination locksmith and dive shop

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MsJ  May 23, 2018 • 3:38:04pm

Hmmm… Interesting.

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gocart mozart  May 23, 2018 • 3:38:10pm

Earlier I linked to the Jones suit from a month ago by mistake. Here is today’s case (full summons + complaint in article) filed by the biggest verdict getting firm in Connecticut. koskoff.com

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Amory Blaine  May 23, 2018 • 3:38:34pm

There was a short lived store around here that offered a natural combination of fine suits and tattoos.

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KGxvi  May 23, 2018 • 3:38:37pm

re: #218 dangerman

i once knew a combination locksmith and dive shop

Houdini’s?

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Dave In Austin  May 23, 2018 • 3:39:41pm
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KGxvi  May 23, 2018 • 3:39:53pm

re: #221 Amory Blaine

There was a short lived store around here that offered a natural combination of fine suits and tattoos.

I’ve seen a few barber shops/tattoo parlors popping up lately, but I think that was a very short lived fad.

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dangerman  May 23, 2018 • 3:41:05pm

re: #222 KGxvi

Houdini’s?

alas no

just the boring ‘lock and dive’

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Dave In Austin  May 23, 2018 • 3:41:34pm

re: #224 KGxvi

I’ve seen a few barber shops/tattoo parlors popping up lately, but I think that was a very short lived fad.

Lightly regulated bodily fluid transfer facility.

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JordanRules  May 23, 2018 • 3:44:36pm
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KGxvi  May 23, 2018 • 3:47:13pm

re: #226 Dave In Austin

Lightly regulated bodily fluid transfer facility.

The couple that I’ve seen were basically a shared space with a wall between where they cut hair and did tattoos. Kind of makes sense in a hipster sort of way.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 23, 2018 • 3:50:32pm

re: #114 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Meal Team 666! The camo kluxer robe is new to me, though hardly surprising.

I’m not sure how to get rid of the Klan but it would appear that starving them to death is not an option.

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BeachDem  May 23, 2018 • 3:51:31pm

re: #207 Dave In Austin

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