Roseanne Blames Ambien; Ambien Says “Racism Is Not a Known Side Effect”

Employing the “Mel Gibson” defense for racist outburst has so far, had little efficacy
Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)
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(scene from Ambien social media team office)

“Dum-te-dum, not much going on with the feeds right now, a couple of people hating on the corporate butterfly logo, no big …

WHAT THE FUCK!!

Um … that’s now how this works …

NEXT: call to Chief of Marketing

“Um sir, we seem to have a problem on Twitter. It’s Roseanne…”

WHAT THE FUCK!

I’m not defending this, but I’m defending this and next Imma gonna attack anyone decent…

So, after saying that she didn’t want to be defended, she started ReTweeting all the dimwits, fucktards and scumbags jumping to her defense …

Lovely people, all of you.

Meanwhile, I’m guessing that over at Sanofil, the entire C-suite is busily alternating between shitting their pants, and hiding under their desks. Finally, someone picked up the phone and called the crisis comms agency, who restored order

… but not before the internet gave us this:

Good to know, guys.

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450 comments
1
Charles Johnson  May 30, 2018 • 11:23:28am

Promoted because it made me laugh a rueful, bitter laugh.

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JordanRules  May 30, 2018 • 11:24:34am

Dems for cheaper Ambien!

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Dave In Austin  May 30, 2018 • 11:26:47am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Promoted because it made me laugh a rueful, bitter laugh.

You’re excused, this time…..

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 30, 2018 • 11:32:03am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Promoted because it made me laugh a rueful, bitter laugh.

Appreciate that, boss.

We gotta find the humor where we can these days.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 11:32:17am

re: #2 JordanRules

Dems for cheaper Ambien!

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Woot!

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 30, 2018 • 11:32:49am

Next up: more funny Ambien Walrus cartoons so we don’t all start day-drinking

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 30, 2018 • 11:34:23am

My mom takes ambien. Hasn’t done anything wacky that I know of, but Imma gonna keep an eye on her when we go back for summer visit in a few weeks.

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stpaulbear  May 30, 2018 • 11:35:27am

I’m a fairly regular user of Ambien. One thing I’ve learned is that you don’t start doing any kind of evening project after taking it. I’ve also learned that I don’t go off on racist rants. I know that I’ve commented here after taking ambien, and I’ve managed to keep myself from saying really stupid stuff.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 30, 2018 • 11:35:27am

re: #6 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

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Drugs don’t make people different, they can merely suppress or enhance certain inherent traits…

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2018 • 11:36:38am

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stpaulbear  May 30, 2018 • 11:37:59am

re: #6 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

I also learned that you don’t want to have long phone conversations after taking Ambien.

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lawhawk  May 30, 2018 • 11:38:40am
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 30, 2018 • 11:39:31am

re: #9 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Drugs don’t make people different, they can merely suppress or enhance certain inherent traits…

Well, that is certainly true of booze & downers, IMNSHO. Sad people become weepy drunks. Angry assholes start fights in bars.

Uppers, on the other hand? Totally different thing. Brings out something from the deep lizard brain that wants to strangle gramma to get $5 from her purse to go buy some more meth. Dunno what the difference is, but I see far more atavistic behavior from the people I’ve tried to help who’ve been strung out on ups.

Ambien just seems to be … surrealistic.

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Belafon  May 30, 2018 • 11:40:19am

re: #12 lawhawk

No one should get distracted by wanting to say “You don’t all the time.” Enjoy the shade being thrown at Trump.

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stpaulbear  May 30, 2018 • 11:40:22am

re: #12 lawhawk

Trump is going to bring this up 500 times this summer.

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Alephnaught  May 30, 2018 • 11:40:28am

From downthread, because I saw POTUS-INO was whining on Twitter about Roseanne getting cancelled. He was complaining about apparently terrible things said about him, even though he no qualms spreading Birther conspiracies about his predecessor- whilst he was still President.

re: #335 Sir John Barron

Like what and by whom?

Maybe the reporting on those Birther tweets Trump made, where he openly doubted that the first PoC POTUS was even from the US?

//// (and a half)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 30, 2018 • 11:40:56am

re: #13 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Well, that is certainly true of booze & downers, IMNSHO. Sad people become weepy drunks. Angry assholes start fights in bars.

Uppers, on the other hand? Totally different thing. Brings out something from the deep lizard brain that wants to strangle gramma to get $5 from her purse to go buy some more meth. Dunno what the difference is, but I see far more atavistic behavior from the people I’ve tried to help who’ve been strung out on ups.

Ambien just seems to be … surrealistic.

we all have a lizard brain and a totally surrealistic consciousness, we just generally learn to suppress them or adapt them to everyday life

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 30, 2018 • 11:41:02am

re: #11 stpaulbear

I also learned that you don’t want to have long phone conversations after taking Ambien.

Like Trump’s tweets, it seems there is an Ambien Walrus for every occasion.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 11:41:27am

LOL, everyone can see your old tweets ya old bag of unfunny…

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JordanRules  May 30, 2018 • 11:43:05am

I know some folks who have done weird shit on Ambien. Thankfully the stories usually just end up being funny. But it can definitely scare folks off from taking it anymore.

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2018 • 11:43:26am

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, everyone can see your old tweets ya old bag of unfunny…

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Liars of a feather lie together.

(I’m trying to make Trump throw up.)

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 30, 2018 • 11:43:41am

re: #17 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

we all have a lizard brain and a totally surrealistic consciousness, we just generally learn to suppress them or adapt them to everyday life

It is my hope that the Trump presidency, and the Fox News-Limbaugh-Breitbart unholy trio that brought it on, is the last gasp of this ugly, nasty lizard brain and magical thinking, and that we will eventually have to wake up and deal with reality again.

Whether we will be able to deal with the smoking rubble of reality that Trump will bequeath us by that point, is, of course, another matter.

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Sir John Barron  May 30, 2018 • 11:43:48am

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, everyone can see your old tweets ya old bag of unfunny…

Who’s tweeting from her account since she said she’d leave Twitter?

/

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Dave In Austin  May 30, 2018 • 11:43:54am

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, everyone can see your old tweets ya old bag of unfunny…

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You could change the header to Trumps AVI and you’d never know the difference.

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dangerman  May 30, 2018 • 11:44:47am

re: #12 lawhawk

The Failing and Corrupt @nytimes estimated the crowd last night at “1000 people,” when in fact it was many times that number - and the arena was rockin’. This is the way they demean and disparage. They are very dishonest people who don’t “get” me, and never did!

oh we get you all right

what matters to you is the reported size of the crowd
nothing else

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 11:46:19am

re: #23 Sir John Barron

Who’s tweeting from her account since she said she’d leave Twitter?

/

it’s the Ambien still talking…

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dangerman  May 30, 2018 • 11:47:20am

and currently:

YouTube

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 30, 2018 • 11:47:22am

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, everyone can see your old tweets ya old bag of unfunny…

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Back in the 90s, Roseanne gave a series of interviews in which she revealed she had multiple personality disorder (some strangely named adolescent girl living inside her was blamed for her unhinged rants), and was so tyrannical and random on her show with ABC that producers famously left with a Hollywood “fuck-you” note saying they were going to go to someplace more tranquil and sensible, like Beirut.

Always felt that was unfair to Beirut. Lovely city. Bad in the 70s and 80s, much better now.

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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 30, 2018 • 11:49:19am

Viz: vanityfair.com

During the early days of the original run of her namesake series, she went to battle with its first show-runner over her character’s direction. The combative stories from behind the scenes are legendary; my favorite is the executive producer who placed an ad in Daily Variety announcing that, instead of returning the next season, “My wife and I have decided to share a vacation in the relative peace and quiet of Beirut.”

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dangerman  May 30, 2018 • 11:49:48am

re: #28 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

Back in the 90s, Roseanne gave a series of interviews in which she revealed claimed she had multiple personality disorder (some strangely named adolescent girl living inside her was blamed for her unhinged rants), and was so tyrannical and random on her show with ABC that producers famously left with a Hollywood “fuck-you” note saying they were going to go to someplace more tranquil and sensible, like Beirut.

Always felt that was unfair to Beirut. Lovely city. Bad in the 70s and 80s, much better now.

anyone diagnose it or just her saying it?

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 11:50:00am

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, everyone can see your old tweets ya old bag of unfunny…

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You called Susan Rice a man.

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ObserverArt  May 30, 2018 • 11:50:06am

re: #8 stpaulbear

I’m a fairly regular user of Ambien. One thing I’ve learned is that you don’t start doing any kind of evening project after taking it. I’ve also learned that I don’t go off on racist rants. I know that I’ve commented here after taking ambien, and I’ve managed to keep myself from saying really stupid stuff.

We’ll be the judge of that!

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 30, 2018 • 11:50:37am

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, everyone can see your old tweets ya old bag of unfunny…

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Good God, Roseanne sure does suck at quitting Twitter.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 30, 2018 • 11:52:01am

re: #24 Dave In Austin

You could change the header to Trumps AVI and you’d never know the difference.

LOL, a great future Twitter quiz…….Who said it, Trump or Roseanne?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 11:52:47am

re: #33 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

Good God, Roseanne sure does suck at quitting Twitter.

she pretty much sucks at comedy, too.

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Kragar  May 30, 2018 • 11:53:15am
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  May 30, 2018 • 11:54:20am

re: #30 dangerman

anyone diagnose it or just her saying it?

Not sure if anyone ever diagnosed her, but for sure, she went around using mental illness as an excuse for being a screeching bully and wound-collecting freak.

That subsided about the time Tom Arnold split with her; he had had a bad coke habit in the early 90s, and I always suspected that there was a bleed-over from his bad habits to her erratic paranoid-schiz behavior, because after he left, she wasn’t quite as bouncing-off-the-walls deranged.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 11:54:32am

re: #36 Kragar

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They’re ignoring she also went after a man who was a child survivor of the Holocaust too.

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dangerman  May 30, 2018 • 11:54:52am

re: #36 Kragar

Roseanne and her defenders “It was one racist joke!”

No. It was her latest racist comment in a long history of racist comments, not a one time thing.

good, you admit it
one’s enough
see ya, bye

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 11:57:11am

It’s easy to think we need to forgive and move on when you’re not the target.

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gocart mozart  May 30, 2018 • 11:58:05am
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gocart mozart  May 30, 2018 • 11:59:43am
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2018 • 11:59:55am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Promoted because it made me laugh a rueful, bitter laugh.

You Coastal Elites using words like ‘rueful’ is why we voted for Trump!

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 12:05:34pm

re: #41 gocart mozart

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Waaah. Shut up you pathetic whining crybaby.

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dangerman  May 30, 2018 • 12:06:45pm

re: #41 gocart mozart

Bob Iger of ABC called Valerie Jarrett to let her know that “ABC does not tolerate comments like those” made by Roseanne Barr. Gee, he never called President Donald J. Trump to apologize for the HORRIBLE statements made and said about me on ABC. Maybe I just didn’t get the call?

pres of the US confuses news (accurate or not) with the statements of a private citizen that caused a network to disassociate themselves with said citizen

its like the pres doesnt know there’s a constitution

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 12:10:22pm
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Kragar  May 30, 2018 • 12:14:13pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 12:15:33pm

re: #46 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Why are conservatives so stupid?

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 12:15:56pm

re: #47 Kragar

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He has never apologized for anything.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 30, 2018 • 12:15:59pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 30, 2018 • 12:17:00pm

re: #48 HappyWarrior

Why are conservatives so stupid?

context

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Varek Raith  May 30, 2018 • 12:17:38pm

There’s stepping in shit, and then there’s falling into a bottomless pit of shit.
She’s way past that.

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DodgerFan1988  May 30, 2018 • 12:18:31pm

With over 4700 dead, Puerto Rico is becoming Trump’s Biafra.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 30, 2018 • 12:18:43pm

re: #48 HappyWarrior

Why are conservatives so stupid?

This isn’t stupid on display, it’s a basic belief that they should get to do what they want, even with ideas.

Thus disingenuous-ness, shallowness, and falsehood are allowable.

Otherwise smart people do this because ultimately they don’t want to scrutinize themselves: all criticism is a priori invalid.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 30, 2018 • 12:19:10pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2018 • 12:21:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 12:21:58pm

Alberto has just arrived in TheBackwoods.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 30, 2018 • 12:23:33pm

Don’t call them deplorables. I’m upgrading that to Despicables for Roseann supporters. Defending words Roseanne herself is running from as fast as she can.

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KGxvi  May 30, 2018 • 12:24:03pm

re: #15 stpaulbear

Trump is going to bring this up 500 times this summer.

Makes for an interesting case study… can one run effectively as a petty president? Is pettiness enough to win? Maybe as a challenger or in an open seat race, but as the incumbent president? Do we really want President (not Tom, RIP) Petty?

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nines09  May 30, 2018 • 12:26:30pm

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Barefoot Grin  May 30, 2018 • 12:27:48pm

re: #57 Backwoods_Sleuth

Alberto has just arrived in TheBackwoods.

The smarmy bastard who tried to get John Ashcroft to sign the reauthorization of domestic surveillance on his hospital bed?

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The Vicious Babushka  May 30, 2018 • 12:28:27pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 12:29:14pm
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The Vicious Babushka  May 30, 2018 • 12:29:29pm

I have a whole bunch of pecans that I bought on sale and what should I do with them?

1. Sticky buns
2. Pecan pie

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 12:29:55pm

re: #64 The Vicious Babushka

I have a whole bunch of pecans that I bought on sale and what should I do with them?

1. Sticky buns
2. Pecan pie

yes

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freetoken  May 30, 2018 • 12:31:20pm

Speaking of racism, and more specifically the systemic nature of such:

Bombshell study reveals global warming is lowering our kids’ test scores and it will get worse

“Heat effects account for up to 13 percent of the U.S. racial achievement gap,” National Bureau of Economic Research finds.

[…]

A stunning new study of U.S. high school students finds that heat waves lower their test scores, the effect is greater for minorities, and global warming is going to make things worse in the coming years.

[…]

Let me get one of my soapboxes out the way first: Romm is given to hyperbole, and the phrase I put in bold is an example of a misleading phrase. It makes it sound as if there is something endemic to an individual being a “minority” that makes them perform worse on academic tests. Instead, a more accurate way to summarize the findings curtly is this: minority populations are at greater risk for degraded academic achievement, due to rising temperatures.

The ThinkProgress article is based on this:

Heat and Learning

We provide the first evidence that cumulative heat exposure inhibits cognitive skill development and that school air conditioning can mitigate this effect. Student fixed effects models using 10 million PSAT-takers show that hotter school days in the year prior to the test reduce learning, with extreme heat being particularly damaging and larger effects for low income and minority students. Weekend and summer heat has little impact and the effect is not explained by pollution or local economic shocks, suggesting heat directly reduces the productivity of learning inputs. New data providing the first measures of school-level air conditioning penetration across the US suggest such infrastructure almost entirely offsets these effects. Without air conditioning, each 1°F increase in school year temperature reduces the amount learned that year by one percent. Our estimates imply that the benefits of school air conditioning likely outweigh the costs in most of the US, particularly given future predicted climate change.

Bottom line is this: humans learn better when the ambient temperature is not too high.

In the US, majority African-American and Hispanic school populations are often in the warmer parts of the country.

These same school districts are often poorer and thus less likely to have adequate air conditioning.

Increased temperatures from climate change will thus disproportionately have a negative affect of these children in poorer school districts.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 12:31:43pm

re: #55 The Vicious Babushka

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Oh shut up already.

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Belafon  May 30, 2018 • 12:32:02pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

She left out the word “white”.

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ObserverArt  May 30, 2018 • 12:32:04pm

re: #55 The Vicious Babushka

Marshall Cohen ✔
@MarshallCohen
Sarah Sanders did not walk into the briefing today with a prepared statement condemning Roseanne’s racist comments. Instead, she brought a list of anti-Trump insults and slights from ABC/ESPN personalities.

3:15 PM - May 30, 2018

The Butthurt Administration.

And of course, the staff has to feed the butthurt bully at the top.

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Sir John Barron  May 30, 2018 • 12:32:07pm

re: #55 The Vicious Babushka

Everything is about him.

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KGxvi  May 30, 2018 • 12:32:40pm

re: #62 The Vicious Babushka

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

Criticizing the President of the United States for things he says and/or does is not the same as comparing ANYONE to an ape, let alone a black person. In the hierarchy of Things That Are Not Difficult To Understand, that’s right up there with “the sun will come back tomorrow” and “don’t drink bleach.”

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 12:32:59pm

re: #62 The Vicious Babushka

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Maybe because Valerie Jarrett actually deserved an apology. Your boss deserves everything that’s been negatively said about him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 12:33:16pm

the crazies are out and about:

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Sir John Barron  May 30, 2018 • 12:33:41pm

re: #62 The Vicious Babushka

SHS’ boss insults a lot of people, a lot. Has he ever apologized?

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KGxvi  May 30, 2018 • 12:34:14pm

re: #68 Belafon

She left out the word “white”.

To the Trump administration “white” and “every” are synonyms.

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Sir John Barron  May 30, 2018 • 12:35:13pm

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

Said the person who has never actually read the book or researched other materials because you believe 100% Everything fed to you by CNN or NBC nightly news. Stop being a waiter in your master’s restaurant serving their BS plates. Go to an actual library and do research.

— obrigado senhor

Youse the Google and see I don’t have to do your research for u!

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ObserverArt  May 30, 2018 • 12:35:17pm

re: #57 Backwoods_Sleuth

Alberto has just arrived in TheBackwoods.

Right now it is centered just northwest of Indianapolis. The outer trailing bands are dragging through your area and are just west of Columbus. Looks kinda like we might escape the worst of it.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2018 • 12:35:25pm

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

the crazies are out and about:

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Sir John Barron  May 30, 2018 • 12:36:09pm

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

the crazies are out and about:

Is a Faux News watching, Alex Jones acolyte critter telling someone to use the library?

That’s pretty rich.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 12:37:33pm

I played shit stirrer. I called Trump a snowflake in my TL. :)

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KGxvi  May 30, 2018 • 12:38:33pm

re: #79 Sir John Barron

Is a Faux News watching, Alex Jones acolyte critter telling someone to use the library?

That’s pretty rich.

behold my vast library of knowledge and power

Reality Based Investigations Start Here
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freetoken  May 30, 2018 • 12:39:15pm

re: #57 Backwoods_Sleuth

Alberto has just arrived in TheBackwoods.

I dunno…. “Alberto” sounds like a foreign name to me… better check his papers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 12:43:21pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 12:45:57pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s for the players you ignorant fuck.

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Belafon  May 30, 2018 • 12:46:52pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Yankee Fans” is a euphemism for “What I want to hear”?

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sagehen  May 30, 2018 • 12:47:02pm

I’m so so SO looking forward to tonight’s grand finale of The Americans.

And sort of dreading it too; I have such deep affection for characters on both sides of the conflict, I’m certain somebody I love is going to die. And somebody I despise isn’t.

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lawhawk  May 30, 2018 • 12:47:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 12:48:10pm
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lawhawk  May 30, 2018 • 12:48:56pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s mistaking players getting booed because they aren’t performing up to the standards fans expect, and a guy who’s spending all his time defending an indefensible criminal administration.

Sometimes a boo is a boo, not a cheer.

And we know how to do that in The Bronx.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2018 • 12:49:10pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They weren’t saying “boo”, they were cheering “Gooliani.”

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The Vicious Babushka  May 30, 2018 • 12:49:47pm

What Roseanne said was indisputedly racist. What Zinke said was not racist. I mean, come on people, don’t overreact!

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 12:50:16pm

re: #90 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

They weren’t saying “boo”, they were cheering “Gooliani.”

I was saying Gooliani.

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CongoJack  May 30, 2018 • 12:52:28pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Why have you not been seen coming and going?

… do you have a black eye?
… did he hit you?
… did he threaten you?
… did you attempt to do what he said he likes to do and grab you inappropriately?
… are you locked in a cage?
… are you attempting to cry for help?

Blink twice if we should call the cops.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 30, 2018 • 12:52:38pm

re: #87 lawhawk

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 12:52:53pm

re: #91 The Vicious Babushka

What Roseanne said was indisputedly racist. What Zinke said was not racist. I mean, come on people, don’t overreact!

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The issue doesn’t seem to me that he said it but that he singled out an Asian American Congresswoman for it. I agree it’s less bad than Roseanne but I understand her gripe too.

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CongoJack  May 30, 2018 • 12:53:18pm

re: #92 HappyWarrior

I was saying Gooliani.

ahahaha…

Booourns sir,
they are saying Booourns.

Like most things in life the Simpsons did it first.

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jaunte  May 30, 2018 • 12:54:21pm

Funny how a day not knowing where Melania is,
is much like a day knowing exactly where she is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 12:54:22pm

jeebus

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Bubblehead II  May 30, 2018 • 12:54:36pm
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dangerman  May 30, 2018 • 12:54:50pm

re: #48 HappyWarrior

Why are conservatives so stupid?

its not stupidity

it’s bald-faced, unabashed lying (coupled with some willful ignorance)

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jaunte  May 30, 2018 • 12:55:24pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

Biggest Inauguration Crowd in History, Period.

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dangerman  May 30, 2018 • 12:55:25pm

re: #53 DodgerFan1988

With over 4700 dead, Puerto Rico is becoming Trump’s Biafra.

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jesus wept

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 12:55:40pm

re: #96 CongoJack

ahahaha…

Booourns sir,
they are saying Booourns.

Like most things in life the Simpsons did it first.

Please tell me you imagined me as Hans Moleman.

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makeitstop  May 30, 2018 • 12:55:53pm

Good afternoon!

I just got online for the day - I played in Bryant Park and got out of town without getting snagged in more than the usual traffic. Just cruising around Twitter, and had my mind blown.

Yesterday, I posted here about Russian dissident journalist Arkady Babchenko, who was apparently killed yesterday. Except he wasn’t.

Apologies if this has been covered. I just think it’s pretty crazy.

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dangerman  May 30, 2018 • 12:55:56pm

re: #54 The Ghost of a Flea

This isn’t stupid on display, it’s a basic belief that they should get to do what they want, even with ideas.

Thus disingenuous-ness, shallowness, and falsehood are allowable.

Otherwise smart people do this because ultimately they don’t want to scrutinize themselves: all criticism is a priori invalid.

tools of the trade

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 12:56:27pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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Which is why he mentions it all the time. Puerto Rico knows you’re full of merda, Sarah.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 30, 2018 • 12:56:31pm

re: #94 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

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twitter.com

How does that work? Is the location beacon show the last place you tweeted from or live location?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 12:56:36pm
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gwangung  May 30, 2018 • 12:56:56pm

re: #91 The Vicious Babushka

What Roseanne said was indisputedly racist. What Zinke said was not racist. I mean, come on people, don’t overreact!

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Conflating Japanese with Japanese Americans was precisely why the incarceration of Japanese Americans in World War II was racist.

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dangerman  May 30, 2018 • 12:57:11pm

re: #55 The Vicious Babushka

Sarah Sanders did not walk into the briefing today with a prepared statement condemning Roseanne’s racist comments. Instead, she brought a list of anti-Trump insults and slights from ABC/ESPN personalities.

this is not a news briefing

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gwangung  May 30, 2018 • 12:58:24pm

re: #95 HappyWarrior

The issue doesn’t seem to me that he said it but that he singled out an Asian American Congresswoman for it. I agree it’s less bad than Roseanne but I understand her gripe too.

Well, the fact that he used Japanese incorrectly and that he conflated Japanese customs with Japanese American concerns was pretty fucking bad as well.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 12:58:35pm

re: #107 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

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twitter.com

How does that work? Is the location beacon show the last place you tweeted from or live location?

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KGxvi  May 30, 2018 • 1:00:09pm

re: #110 dangerman

this is not a news briefing

I can’t define pornographypropaganda, but I know it when I see it.

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Sir John Barron  May 30, 2018 • 1:00:25pm

re: #55 The Vicious Babushka

And of course we know that Donny had never insulted or slighted anyone else ever.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 30, 2018 • 1:00:47pm

re: #104 makeitstop

Good afternoon!

I just got online for the day - I played in Bryant Park and got out of town without getting snagged in more than the usual traffic. Just cruising around Twitter, and had my mind blown.

Yesterday, I posted here about Russian dissident journalist Arkady Babchenko, who was apparently killed yesterday. Except he wasn’t.

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Apologies if this has been covered. I just think it’s pretty crazy.

Wow! “Archduke Franz Ferdinand Alive, World War Fought by Mistake!” (1920s German headline contest winner).

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Dr. Matt  May 30, 2018 • 1:02:17pm

re: #97 jaunte

Funny how a day not knowing where Melania is,
is much like a day knowing exactly where she is.

Melanie.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 30, 2018 • 1:02:37pm

Sure miss him.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 30, 2018 • 1:02:53pm

The wingnut outrage machine isn’t working as good as it once did

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CongoJack  May 30, 2018 • 1:03:09pm

re: #103 HappyWarrior

Please tell me you imagined me as Hans Moleman.

Waylon Smithers actually :).

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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2018 • 1:03:53pm

re: #97 jaunte

Funny how a day not knowing where Melania is,
is much like a day knowing exactly where she is.

Schrödinger’s wife.

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lawhawk  May 30, 2018 • 1:04:48pm
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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2018 • 1:04:52pm
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ObserverArt  May 30, 2018 • 1:06:11pm

re: #110 dangerman

this is not a news briefing

Have they ever been classic WH news briefings?

With all the BS answers and dodging they are more like news cover ups.

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ibob  May 30, 2018 • 1:08:40pm

re: #66 freetoken

Speaking of racism, and more specifically the systemic nature of such:

Bombshell study reveals global warming is lowering our kids’ test scores and it will get worse

Let me get one of my soapboxes out the way first: Romm is given to hyperbole, and the phrase I put in bold is an example of a misleading phrase. It makes it sound as if there is something endemic to an individual being a “minority” that makes them perform worse on academic tests. Instead, a more accurate way to summarize the findings curtly is this: minority populations are at greater risk for degraded academic achievement, due to rising temperatures.

The ThinkProgress article is based on this:

Heat and Learning

Bottom line is this: humans learn better when the ambient temperature is not too high.

In the US, majority African-American and Hispanic school populations are often in the warmer parts of the country.

These same school districts are often poorer and thus less likely to have adequate air conditioning.

Increased temperatures from climate change will thus disproportionately have a negative affect of these children in poorer school districts.

The best weather for learning, working, relaxing, etc is sweater weather.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 1:09:16pm

re: #111 gwangung

Well, the fact that he used Japanese incorrectly and that he conflated Japanese customs with Japanese American concerns was pretty fucking bad as well.

That too.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 1:09:43pm

re: #119 CongoJack

Waylon Smithers actually :).

Haha works

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 1:10:52pm

re: #121 lawhawk

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Because the NYT cares more about making Trump voters feel validated. Glad John is on this. Keep at it man.

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makeitstop  May 30, 2018 • 1:12:48pm

I must have gotten on to some wingnut spam list or something. Checking my email, here are a couple of my latest mail headers:

‘This concealed carry permit in recognized in over 70% of the U.S.’

‘Store Your Weapon Safely and Securely Anywhere for Rapid Deployment’

Also, Klebsi plague and The Video Guaranteed To Finish Obama. And someone wants me to lose 3 dress sizes by the 4th of July.

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Sir John Barron  May 30, 2018 • 1:16:55pm

re: #128 makeitstop

I must have gotten on to some wingnut spam list or something. Checking my email, here are a couple of my latest mail headers:

‘This concealed carry permit in recognized in over 70% of the U.S.’

‘Store Your Weapon Safely and Securely Anywhere for Rapid Deployment’

Also, Klebsi plague and The Video Guaranteed To Finish Obama. And someone wants me to lose 3 dress sizes by the 4th of July.

Yeah I’ve gotten the concealed permit ones recently too.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 1:17:06pm

re: #128 makeitstop

I must have gotten on to some wingnut spam list or something. Checking my email, here are a couple of my latest mail headers:

‘This concealed carry permit in recognized in over 70% of the U.S.’

‘Store Your Weapon Safely and Securely Anywhere for Rapid Deployment’

Also, Klebsi plague and The Video Guaranteed To Finish Obama. And someone wants me to lose 3 dress sizes by the 4th of July.

Obama will be finished when you drop three dress sizes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 1:17:18pm
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TedStriker  May 30, 2018 • 1:18:06pm

re: #130 HappyWarrior

Obama will be finished when you drop three dress sizes.

And you’ll be better able to conceal carry

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makeitstop  May 30, 2018 • 1:18:18pm

re: #129 Sir John Barron

Yeah I’ve gotten the concealed permit ones recently too.

I forgot to mention the ever-popular Tactical Flashlight, Tinnitus Cure and Reverse Mortgage.

Somebody thinks I must watch Fox News or something.

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freetoken  May 30, 2018 • 1:18:50pm
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TedStriker  May 30, 2018 • 1:19:24pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

And, by-and-large, the media and those GOPers in Washington that have the means to do something about it don’t give a shit that this was and is genocide-by-neglect.

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2018 • 1:21:36pm

re: #134 freetoken

[… Lava advancing along a steepest descent path that could take the flow to the Four Corners area.]

Wait, where Arizona, Colorado, Utah and NM meet? That’s one hell of a volcano!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 30, 2018 • 1:21:38pm

3 of the Oldest Weapons in the Pentagon’s Inventory
If it ain’t broke, why fix it?

In short, M-2 .50” heavy machine gun (“Ma Deuce”) , KC-135, B-52H.
The M-2 has been in service 100 years this year, with no end in sight.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 1:22:50pm
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freetoken  May 30, 2018 • 1:24:16pm

re: #136 wrenchwench

Wait, where Arizona, Colorado, Utah and NM meet? That’s one hell of a volcano!

Pele is angrier than you thought.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2018 • 1:24:53pm
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Dr. Matt  May 30, 2018 • 1:25:00pm

re: #137 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

3 of the Oldest Weapons in the Pentagon’s Inventory
If it ain’t broke, why fix it?

In short, M-2 .50” heavy machine gun (“Ma Deuce”) , KC-135, B-52H.
The M-2 has been in service 100 years this year, with no end in sight.

They forgot one: Richard Arvin Overton

en.wikipedia.org Richard Arvin Overton (born May 11, 1906) is an American supercentenarian who at age 112 years, 18 days is both the oldest verified surviving U.S. war veteran and the oldest living man in the United States. He is a veteran of World War II who served with the United States Army. In 2013 he was honored by President Barack Obama.[2][3][4][5] He currently resides in Austin, Texas.

:)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 1:25:21pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 1:27:55pm

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Not missing a beat since Schneidermann left.

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ObserverArt  May 30, 2018 • 1:29:01pm

Oops!

He probably has nothing to worry about, but still dude…you need to learn how things work.

ESPN - Browns’ Damarious Randall: ‘We’ll talk about this after the series’

BEREA, Ohio — Damarious Randall did not envision his tweet going viral.

The Cleveland Browns’ new free safety made a promise on Twitter on Monday night that if the Cleveland Cavaliers beat the Golden State Warriors in the NBA Finals that he’d buy a jersey for each person who retweeted his post.

Damarious Randall ✔
@RandallTime
If the Cleveland Cavaliers win the 2018 NBA finals I’ll buy everyone who retweet’s this a jersey…

11:58 PM - May 28, 2018
152K
828K people are talking about this

“Honestly, I didn’t think it was going to get over 100 [retweets], to be honest,” Randall said Wednesday after the Browns’ offseason practice.

As of mid-afternoon Wednesday, he had 777,145 retweets. At $99.99 each for jerseys, that would mean Randall could be spending $77.7 million.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 1:30:14pm
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dangerman  May 30, 2018 • 1:30:49pm

re: #136 wrenchwench

Wait, where Arizona, Colorado, Utah and NM meet? That’s one hell of a volcano!

read my mind

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 1:32:21pm

gaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2018 • 1:33:16pm

re: #124 ibob

The best weather for learning, working, relaxing, etc is sweater weather.

Definitely.

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2018 • 1:33:34pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 1:34:29pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 1:34:53pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

gaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh

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Does he know how to talk? “Have a great life”?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 1:36:06pm
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jaunte  May 30, 2018 • 1:37:00pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

White House Sports & Fitness Day event

Trump will attempt to run 50 feet.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 1:37:11pm

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Uh everyone.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 1:37:22pm

re: #153 jaunte

Trump will attempt to run 50 feet.

Inches.

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CongoJack  May 30, 2018 • 1:38:14pm

re: #151 HappyWarrior

Does he know how to talk? “Have a great life”?

Trump:
“Have a great life! Don’t worry it will all end soon…. very soon”

Its like Trump is an more evil version of Thanos (who in the comic book is more sympathetic character than Trump as Thanos is haunted by the Spirit of Death which causes him to lose his nut).

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 30, 2018 • 1:39:05pm

re: #153 jaunte

Trump will attempt to run 50 feet.

Have a guy in a Mueller costume run towards him and he’ll run faster than Usain Bolt.

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lawhawk  May 30, 2018 • 1:39:56pm

re: #157 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

Have a guy in a Mueller costume run towards him and he’ll run faster than Usain Bolt. jump on a golf cart

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ObserverArt  May 30, 2018 • 1:40:12pm

I just had a chilling thought after hearing Trump screaming in the mic at his rally last night.

Can you imagine Trump and Roseanne getting heated up, raising their voices and screeching at each other about all the mean libs treating them so bigly badly?

Yeesh. Just the thought hurts my ears.

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electrotek  May 30, 2018 • 1:41:18pm

Did Trump tweet about the attack and hostage taking in Belgium yesterday? The human shield in question was a Muslim woman that was working as a cleaner when she was taken hostage by the nutbag.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2018 • 1:41:27pm

He’s right, you know. We got Trump because a lot of his supporters are racists.

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ObserverArt  May 30, 2018 • 1:42:33pm

re: #155 HappyWarrior

Inches.

The Greatest 100 Centimeter Dash runner evah!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 30, 2018 • 1:43:28pm
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freetoken  May 30, 2018 • 1:44:07pm

re: #160 electrotek

You mean this Belgium event?

Belgium attack: Liege assailant killed fourth person day before, minister says

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electrotek  May 30, 2018 • 1:44:55pm

re: #164 freetoken

You mean this Belgium event?

Belgium attack: Liege assailant killed fourth person day before, minister says

Yup. The nutbag was a convert, and not an immigrant. Radicalized in prison of course, which is a recurring theme with Belgian terrorism as of late.

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freetoken  May 30, 2018 • 1:46:26pm

re: #165 electrotek

Apparently he was on a “two day release” from prison.

Which sounds me as a bad idea to begin with, until one can truly ascertain if someone is reintegratable into society.

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electrotek  May 30, 2018 • 1:47:07pm

re: #166 freetoken

Apparently he was on a “two day release” from prison.

Which sounds me as a bad idea to begin with, until one can truly ascertain if someone is reintegratable into society.

More evidence of a dysfunctional justice system in the country. Jeez.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 30, 2018 • 1:47:45pm
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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 30, 2018 • 1:48:15pm

re: #161 Blind Frog Belly White

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He’s right, you know. We got Trump because a lot of his supporters are racists.

OK Ben that’s how we got Trump, what did you guys do to let him get past you?

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plansbandc  May 30, 2018 • 1:49:26pm

re: #36 Kragar

In my experience, no one ever does just one racist thing.

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ObserverArt  May 30, 2018 • 1:50:16pm

re: #163 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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ESPN has a story up on that too. Trump’s heavy hands all over this crap. This is all ridiculous.

ESPN - NFL owners note Donald Trump’s attempt to influence anthem views

Iframe

Several NFL owners said in depositions that President Donald Trump factored into conversations about how to handle protests during the national anthem, The Wall Street Journal reported.

While testifying as part of the Colin Kaepernick collusion case, Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said Trump spoke with him about the anthem.

“This is very winning, strong issue for me,” Jones said Trump told him during a phone call. “Tell everybody, you can’t win this one. This one lifts me.”

The Journal also reported that Miami Dolphins owner Stephen Ross testified that New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft had also discussed the anthem with Trump.

While at an Alabama rally in September, Trump blasted NFL players who knelt during the anthem. He said owners should pull players who kneel from games and referred to a player who protested during the anthem as a “son of a bitch.”

That comment drew a wide reaction across the NFL, leading to additional protests before the following Sunday’s games.

Ross testified that Trump’s comments “changed the dialogue,” and Houston Texans owner Bob McNair acknowledged that the protests were financially hurting teams, according to the Journal.

Ross made similar comments to the New York Daily News in March, when he told the newspaper that all Dolphins players would stand for the national anthem. The owner said he became against kneeling when he felt that the message from the players was being interpreted as anti-military.

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and Kraft are also among the people who have been deposed in the case.

- - - more at link - - -

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jaunte  May 30, 2018 • 1:50:26pm
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plansbandc  May 30, 2018 • 1:52:36pm

re: #64 The Vicious Babushka

Why not have both?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 30, 2018 • 1:56:05pm

re: #172 jaunte

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ObserverArt  May 30, 2018 • 1:56:15pm

re: #172 jaunte

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The ol’ Back Rubbing Boogie.

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KGxvi  May 30, 2018 • 1:56:30pm

re: #171 ObserverArt

ESPN has a story up on that too. Trump’s heavy hands all over this crap. This is all ridiculous.

ESPN - NFL owners note Donald Trump’s attempt to influence anthem views

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This case seems to be going swimmingly for the NFL.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2018 • 1:57:15pm

re: #170 plansbandc

In my experience, no one ever does just one racist thing.

Not even ‘the least racist person you’ll ever meet’?
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How is it so many white people are ‘the least racist person you’ll ever meet’? Is this like how 90% of drivers think they’re above average?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 30, 2018 • 1:57:25pm

re: #172 jaunte

Oh, oh
This one goes better with yours

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 1:58:28pm

re: #161 Blind Frog Belly White

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He’s right, you know. We got Trump because a lot of his supporters are racists.

You get Trump through shitheads like you Ben writing for Breitbart that Chuck Hagel is a Hamas supporter. Fuck you and your smug face.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 1:58:44pm

re: #163 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Coward.

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meteor  May 30, 2018 • 1:58:55pm

For all those who died in Puerto Rico. Rest in peace.

Corul Vassilikos- Meta ton aghion.

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petesh  May 30, 2018 • 1:59:04pm

re: #101 jaunte

Biggest Inauguration Crowd in History, Period.

In bright sunshine, too!

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 2:00:53pm

re: #171 ObserverArt

ESPN has a story up on that too. Trump’s heavy hands all over this crap. This is all ridiculous.

ESPN - NFL owners note Donald Trump’s attempt to influence anthem views

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This is far more an attack on free speech than anything regarding Roseanne.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 30, 2018 • 2:02:02pm

Red Bank Baptist Church in South Carolina

The artist responded that the pastor’s letter displays religious prejudice and insults the community’s intelligence.

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electrotek  May 30, 2018 • 2:02:50pm

re: #184 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Red Bank Baptist Church in South Carolina

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Wonder what Robert Spencer has to say about this?

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KGxvi  May 30, 2018 • 2:06:32pm

re: #184 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

something something John the Baptist something something DiVinci’s Last Supper something something

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 30, 2018 • 2:07:39pm

Ralph Reed: 2018 Is ‘Make-Or-Break’ Year For Freedom (to persecute, control, and exploit).

The latest email from Religious Right political operative Ralph Reed gave little indication that Republicans control the White House and Congress and most state legislatures, or that President Trump and the GOP Senate are packing federal courts with extreme right-wing ideologues, or that Religious Right activists are now setting policy from powerful positions in the executive branch:

2018 is an absolutely make-or-break year for the future of our republic…

The far-left is gaining steam and gaining momentum… and if you and I let them continue to steamroll their way to November without a fight, we risk losing the big victories conservatives like you and me have fought for over the last two years.

And worse, you and I risk losing our bedrock constitutional freedoms-like free speech, freedom of religion, and the right to bear arms-forever.

He’s right, you know. This election provides an opportunity to send these charlatans back to the backwoods tent revivals and decrepit storefront “churches” where they started.

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Sea Mexican!  May 30, 2018 • 2:07:44pm

re: #10 Skip Intro

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So, a spirited walk? :P

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Patricia Kayden  May 30, 2018 • 2:08:51pm

Some great news from Virginia. Wasn’t expecting this, to be honest.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 30, 2018 • 2:09:33pm
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dangerman  May 30, 2018 • 2:11:22pm

LGF now opens with the rest of my default pages when i start Chrome

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2018 • 2:12:54pm

re: #190 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Best economic growth EVER! Period!
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Skip Intro  May 30, 2018 • 2:13:21pm

re: #184 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Red Bank Baptist Church in South Carolina

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Needs Moar Gunz.

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gwangung  May 30, 2018 • 2:14:48pm

re: #192 Blind Frog Belly White

Best economic growth EVER! Period!
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Not that this will matter to his hardcore support (though, to be honest, that applies to the left as well). Our best shot is to hammer on his outright lies and verifiable behavior he can’t explain away.

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freetoken  May 30, 2018 • 2:15:15pm

re: #193 Skip Intro

It’s an old debate, about the crucifix.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 30, 2018 • 2:15:16pm

re: #87 lawhawk

Melania Trump
✔
@FLOTUS
I see the media is working overtime speculating where I am & what I’m doing. Rest assured, I’m here at the @WhiteHouse w my family, feeling great, & working hard on behalf of children & the American people!
2:45 PM - May 30, 2018

Did a Melania tweet ever seem less Melania-like than this tweet? So who is the person who substitutes for Donald for some of his tweets? Possibly the same person.

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dangerman  May 30, 2018 • 2:16:38pm

re: #171 ObserverArt

ESPN has a story up on that too. Trump’s heavy hands all over this crap. This is all ridiculous.

ESPN - NFL owners note Donald Trump’s attempt to influence anthem views

Ross made similar comments to the New York Daily News in March, when he told the newspaper that all Dolphins players would stand for the national anthem. The owner said he became against kneeling when he felt that the message from the players was being interpreted as anti-military.

so rather than what it actually was.
i became against it because it was being misinterpreted.

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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2018 • 2:17:28pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 30, 2018 • 2:17:45pm

re: #161 Blind Frog Belly White

Ben Shapiro
✔
@benshapiro
This is how you got Trump

…
8:46 AM - May 30, 2018

He’s right, you know. We got Trump because a lot of his supporters are racists.

I am confused. Is Ben actually admitting that Trump supporters are racist? Or is he implying that firing Roseanne is what leads to Trump voters?

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stpaulbear  May 30, 2018 • 2:17:54pm

Via Balloon Juice:

Starting Wednesday, some Parkland families are raising money for a campaign to push the National Rifle Association out of politics and ban assault weapons, bump stocks and high-capacity magazines in the U.S.

Following the lead of their children, parents from the community where 17 died in a Valentine’s Day shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School have joined together to form Families vs Assault Rifles, a nonprofit and political action committee founded to be a counterweight to the NRA. Jeff Kasky, the father of March For Our Lives’ student activist Cameron Kasky, says the group is quickly gaining support and has already received commitments from “financial backers” willing to match grassroots donations.

“The NRA purchases for cash money political favors,” Kasky said in an interview. “That needs to stop.”

The organization, according to its website, was created to “remove the NRA from our political system” and fight for gun-control policies by amending the National Firearms Act of 1934. The Super PAC registered with the state and federal governments on May 18 — the same day as a shooting that killed 10 at a high school in Santa Fe, Texas — and evokes a March For Our Lives motto that people should “either change the law or change the lawmakers.”

The parents’ Super PAC is soliciting $17 donations, one dollar for each life lost in the shooting.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2018 • 2:19:16pm

re: #199 Hecuba’s daughter

I am confused. Is Ben actually admitting that Trump supporters are racist? Or is he implying that firing Roseanne is what leads to Trump voters?

Calling racists racists makes them want to prove they’re racists by doing something really racist like electing a racist.

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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2018 • 2:20:27pm
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Skip Intro  May 30, 2018 • 2:20:49pm

re: #196 Hecuba’s daughter

Her tweets come from her office staff. It says so right on her page.

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stpaulbear  May 30, 2018 • 2:21:11pm

re: #199 Hecuba’s daughter

I am confused. Is Ben actually admitting that Trump supporters are racist? Or is he implying that firing Roseanne is what leads to Trump voters?

We got Trump because we are meanies to racists!

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ObserverArt  May 30, 2018 • 2:21:26pm

Watching local news. I had forgotten, today is Tigermania in Dublin (Columbus Northern ‘burb). Tiger Woods is in town for the Memorial Golf Tourney and today was the pro-am round, He was paired up with Peyton Manning. Big crowd turns out to follow.

Overall though, this event is good because it does raise a hell of a lot of money for Nationwide Children’s Hospital. And, a lot of the kids that are being and have been treated are at the tourney today.

Outside that…I am not a golf fan. The northern parts of Metro Columbus have way too many damn golf courses. Where I worked in Powell, there were 6 within a couple miles of our office, including Muirfield (The Course that Jack Nicklaus Built)

Thankfully we do have a hell of a Metro Parks system…but some of those courses would make great additions!

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2018 • 2:21:28pm

re: #201 Blind Frog Belly White

Or,

WE VOTED FOR TRUMP BECAUSE YOU THINK WE’RE RACISTS!!!

No, we think you’re racists because you voted for Trump.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 2:22:02pm

re: #199 Hecuba’s daughter

I am confused. Is Ben actually admitting that Trump supporters are racist? Or is he implying that firing Roseanne is what leads to Trump voters?

He’s implying the latter. He may be more anti-Trump than many conservatives are but he’s of the mindset that calling out conservatives for being racists just leads them to Trump and that’s something that is a bad thing for the left. He’s a miserable little shithead.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 2:23:48pm

re: #206 Blind Frog Belly White

Or,

WE VOTED FOR TRUMP BECAUSE YOU THINK WE’RE RACISTS!!!

No, we think you’re racists because you voted for Trump.

We think you’re racists since you cheered and did nothing as he attacked Mexican immigrants.

We think your’e racists since you cheered and did nothign when he attacked Judge Curiel for being Mexican-American.

We think you’re racists since you cheered and did nothing when he attacked Mr. and Mrs. Khan.

We think you’re racists since you loved his birtherism.

We think you’re racists since you’re more bothered by Roseanne being fired than Maria killing more people than 9/11 and Katrina combined.

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electrotek  May 30, 2018 • 2:23:52pm

re: #207 HappyWarrior

He’s implying the latter. He may be more anti-Trump than many conservatives are but he’s of the mindset that calling out conservatives for being racists just leads them to Trump and that’s something that is a bad thing for the left. He’s a miserable little shithead.

So in short, he expects conservatives to be coddled and babied.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 30, 2018 • 2:25:00pm

re: #207 HappyWarrior

He’s implying the latter. He may be more anti-Trump than many conservatives are but he’s of the mindset that calling out conservatives for being racists just leads them to Trump and that’s something that is a bad thing for the left. He’s a miserable little shithead.

Ana Navarro is an anti-Trump conservative. Bill Kristol (shudder!!) is an anti-Trump conservative. Jennifer Rubin in an anti-Trump conservative. There are plenty of them.
Ben Shapiro — no way.

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ObserverArt  May 30, 2018 • 2:25:02pm

re: #199 Hecuba’s daughter

I am confused. Is Ben actually admitting that Trump supporters are racist? Or is he implying that firing Roseanne is what leads to Trump voters?

He thinks Hayes’ comment was deplorable-like. And “deplorable” won the election for Trump.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 2:26:14pm

re: #209 electrotek

So in short, he expects conservatives to be coddled and babied.

The dude did work for Breitbart and does go around trolling campuses.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 30, 2018 • 2:26:26pm

re: #211 ObserverArt

He thinks Hayes’ comment was deplorable-like. And “deplorable” won the election for Trump.

Thank you for the translation!! I am not always good with conservaderp-speak.

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ObserverArt  May 30, 2018 • 2:26:37pm

re: #201 Blind Frog Belly White

Calling racists racists makes them want to prove they’re racists by doing something really racist like electing a racist.

You ain’t lying!

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 2:26:58pm

re: #210 Hecuba’s daughter

Ana Navarro is an anti-Trump conservative. Bill Kristol (shudder!!) is an anti-Trump conservative. Jennifer Rubin in an anti-Trump conservative. There are plenty of them.
Ben Shapiro — no way.

Yeah I don’t think he actually is anti-Trump despite what he says sometimes. I think he’s like my one wingnut friend. Dishonest as hell about what he is.

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Barefoot Grin  May 30, 2018 • 2:27:07pm

re: #211 ObserverArt

He thinks Hayes’ comment was deplorable-like. And “deplorable” won the election for Trump.

They voted for Trump because we called them racists…. There’s Harvard Law-level logic right there.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 30, 2018 • 2:27:57pm

re: #203 Skip Intro

Her tweets come from her office staff. It says so right on her page.

So no way to know her real status.

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dangerman  May 30, 2018 • 2:29:27pm

re: #208 HappyWarrior

We think you’re racists since you cheered and did nothing as he attacked Mexican immigrants.

We think your’e racists since you cheered and did nothign when he attacked Judge Curiel for being Mexican-American.

We think you’re racists since you cheered and did nothing when he attacked Mr. and Mrs. Khan.

We think you’re racists since you loved his birtherism.

We think you’re racists since you’re more bothered by Roseanne being fired than Maria killing more people than 9/11 and Katrina combined.

Charlottesville
Response to the various recent shootings based on participants color….
Animals comment

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 2:30:21pm

re: #218 dangerman

Charlottesville
Response to the various recent shootings based on participants color….
Animals comment

Yes.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 2:31:01pm

re: #211 ObserverArt

He thinks Hayes’ comment was deplorable-like. And “deplorable” won the election for Trump.

In his eyes, it’s worse to call out bigotry than to be bigoted.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 2:31:43pm

re: #214 ObserverArt

You ain’t lying!

I’m not a racist so I’m going to enthusiastically support that guy who attacked a judgs’s Ethnicity!

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KGxvi  May 30, 2018 • 2:32:27pm

Was just reading up on the vote on Amendment 8 in Ireland. Amazing that in 35 years, the vote switched completely. In 1983 Amendment 8 passed 66-34, last week it was repealed by the same margin. They also voted by about the same margin to legalize same sex marriages a few years ago. Bill Donahue must be wondering what happened…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 30, 2018 • 2:33:07pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 2:33:18pm

re: #216 Barefoot Grin

They voted for Trump because we called them racists…. There’s Harvard Law-level logic right there.

He’s a waste of a law degree. Could have gone to someone who uses it for good rather than a man baby who goes around picking fights with college kids 15 years younger than him.

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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2018 • 2:33:38pm

re: #210 Hecuba’s daughter

Ana Navarro is an anti-Trump conservative. Bill Kristol (shudder!!) is an anti-Trump conservative. Jennifer Rubin in an anti-Trump conservative. There are plenty of them.
Ben Shapiro — no way.

Shapiro was mildly against Trump in the primary and for that crime got hounded out of the Bannon era Breitbart by Milo and his antisemitic alt right fanboys. The difference between him and the conservatives who genuinely opposed Trump is that Ben’s been steadily trying to weasel his way back into the far right’s good graces ever since.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 2:35:11pm

re: #222 KGxvi

Was just reading up on the vote on Amendment 8 in Ireland. Amazing that in 35 years, the vote switched completely. In 1983 Amendment 8 passed 66-34, last week it was repealed by the same margin. They also voted by about the same margin to legalize same sex marriages a few years ago. Bill Donahue must be wondering what happened…

I’ll tell you what happened. Ireland realized they didn’t have to be a Catholic country and instead chose to be a country that happens to be heavily Catholic. It’s a much more welcoming place now.

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2018 • 2:35:30pm

re: #222 KGxvi

Was just reading up on the vote on Amendment 8 in Ireland. Amazing that in 35 years, the vote switched completely. In 1983 Amendment 8 passed 66-34, last week it was repealed by the same margin. They also voted by about the same margin to legalize same sex marriages a few years ago. Bill Donahue must be wondering what happened…

Women died. People noticed why.

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jaunte  May 30, 2018 • 2:35:34pm
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jaunte  May 30, 2018 • 2:35:52pm

STAR POWER

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 2:36:18pm

re: #225 goddamnedfrank

Shapiro was mildly against Trump in the primary and for that crime got hounded out of the Bannon era Breitbart by Milo and his antisemitic alt right fanboys. The difference between him and the conservatives who genuinely opposed Trump is that Ben’s been steadily trying to weasel his way back into the far right’s good graces ever since.

Correct. And he loved Milo for a long time too.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 2:36:44pm

re: #229 jaunte

STAR POWER

Cult power…

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jaunte  May 30, 2018 • 2:39:38pm

Puppet Show
Spinal Tap
Donald Trump

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KGxvi  May 30, 2018 • 2:39:51pm

re: #228 jaunte

So, he’s going to spend time in Texas and Utah? And drive down support for the Republican nominees there?

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 2:42:00pm

re: #233 KGxvi

So, he’s going to spend time in Texas and Utah? And drive down support for the Republican nominees there?

If he results in getting us rid of Cruz and Romney.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2018 • 2:42:01pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 2:43:49pm

re: #235 Charles Johnson

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It’s what they do.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 30, 2018 • 2:45:59pm
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electrotek  May 30, 2018 • 2:48:20pm

re: #237 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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This is what comes to mind when someone mentions Papua New Guinea:

The Future Sound of London — Papua New Guinea

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KGxvi  May 30, 2018 • 2:48:44pm

re: #237 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Jesus Christ, this is going to lead to a slew of think pieces about how the internet is a net negative for humanity, isn’t it?

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freetoken  May 30, 2018 • 2:50:36pm

Trump’s rich buddies working together:

How Fox Bodyslammed Rivals to Win WWE Rights

[…]

The elder Murdoch insisted NBCU was “embarrassed by your product.” Fox, he said, would fully embrace WWE, with SmackDown promos airing across sports programming every night of the week, along with a weekly studio show on FS1. More than that, the deal, Lachlan Murdoch told McMahon during a private call at the end of the meeting, would herald the marriage of the Murdochs and the McMahons, rebel outsiders who had built media empires. […]

That pitch sealed the bargain. Starting in October 2019, Fox will air SmackDown for five years, if the deal closes as expected. NBCU will retain Raw, paying $265 million per year, sources say, with the two deals valued at $2.35 billion over five years — a massive increase from the $130 million per year that NBCU currently pays for both programs.

Linda McMahon is part of Trump’s administration. In years prior to the election, the McMahons “gave” 5 or 6 million dollars to Trump’s “foundation”.

Then, after Jared visits the Middle East, WWE lands a $100 million deal for 10 shows over 10 years in KSA, through which in the first episode we see WWE directly airs Saudi propaganda.

That Rupert Murdoch would play the elites-at-NBC-look-down-on-wrestling card fits perfectly into his ability to play to people’s egos. And Vince McMahon has an ego second only to Trump, and reportedly Vince has always had a chip on his shoulder, growing up in a trailer park in NC and that his father was a wrestling promoter.

On top of that, Murdoch is going to pay WWE more than 3 times they were getting previously for their product (2-hour a week Smackdown.)

It pays to be Trump’s friends, it appears.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 30, 2018 • 2:52:39pm
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KGxvi  May 30, 2018 • 2:53:57pm

There’s been a few last minute polls showing that California Republicans are coalescing around John Cox for the primary next week. But the interesting thing is we still have double digit undecided voters (anywhere from 13% to 19%), and Newsom is leading but with only about a quarter to a third of the vote.

Curious to see how this turns out.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 2:55:33pm

re: #241 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I blame cellphones.//

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calochortus  May 30, 2018 • 2:57:50pm

re: #242 KGxvi

There’s been a few last minute polls showing that California Republicans are coalescing around John Cox for the primary next week. But the interesting thing is we still have double digit undecided voters (anywhere from 13% to 19%), and Newsom is leading but with only about a quarter to a third of the vote.

Curious to see how this turns out.

Speaking for myself, I’m undecided because I don’t like the leading candidates. I’m gonna have to make a decision soon.

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dangerman  May 30, 2018 • 2:58:48pm

i cant embed a tweet

over at political wire there’s two tweets from kyle griffin quoting avenatti:

MELVIN: The president’s voice is on the tapes?

AVENATTI: That’s our understanding.

MELVIN: And your client’s voice…?

AVENATTI: My client’s voice is not on the tapes… My client’s attorney’s voice is on the tapes describing communications that he had with my client

and

Michael Avenatti on @MSNBC: “Mr. Cohen’s attorney was forced to admit… that Michael Cohen was making recordings of various parties… He was forced to admit that some of them relate to my client… These tapes should be released in full to the American people and Congress.”

there are recordings
it is now official
this is watergate redux

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freetoken  May 30, 2018 • 3:01:42pm

re: #245 dangerman

From earlier today:

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dangerman  May 30, 2018 • 3:03:53pm

re: #246 freetoken

From earlier today:

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Thx

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2018 • 3:04:03pm

re: #245 dangerman

there are recordings
it is now official
this is watergate redux

Only worse. Lots more unindicted co conspirators.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 30, 2018 • 3:07:09pm
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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2018 • 3:07:23pm

re: #244 calochortus

Speaking for myself, I’m undecided because I don’t like the leading candidates. I’m gonna have to make a decision soon.

I voted strategically for Villaraigosa. I preferred Chiang but want two Dems in the general. Not sure how to feel about the way California top two system affects my decision making calculus. On the one hand Chiang clearly seems like the most likely to continue Brown’s pragmatic fiscal policies, on the other hand he’s polling in third place and freezing out the GOP also just seems like basic civic responsibility.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 30, 2018 • 3:08:22pm
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Alephnaught  May 30, 2018 • 3:09:29pm

re: #238 electrotek

This is what comes to mind when someone mentions Papua New Guinea:

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Ahem excuse me: Andrew Weatherall’s remix of the same tune is what comes to my mind.

THE FUTURE SOUND OF LONDON - PAPUA NEW GUINEA (andrew weatherall full length mix)

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KGxvi  May 30, 2018 • 3:09:38pm

re: #240 freetoken

Trump’s rich buddies working together:

On top of that, Murdoch is going to pay WWE more than 3 times they were getting previously for their product (2-hour a week Smackdown.)

It pays to be Trump’s friends, it appears.

NBC Universal is keeping Raw, and they tripled what they were paying for Raw and Smackdown. NBCU reportedly didn’t want Smackdown. Raw averages about 3 million viewers (with the range being anywhere between 2.7 and 4 million). Smackdown averages about 2.5 million viewers (and hasn’t been over 3 million this year).

Throw in the fact that networks are desperate for live television in order to sell ads, and it sort of makes sense that NBCU and Fox were willing to pay that much.

I just don’t see the conspiracy that you do. I mean, ESPN just agreed to pay the UFC $1.5 billion over 5 years. That’s $300m per year, more than double what Fox had been paying for UFC (about $120m). The money is in live events, and WWE gives the networks live shows 52 weeks a year.

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Belafon  May 30, 2018 • 3:10:01pm

re: #237 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

MySpace, Instagram, SnapChat. Not exactly go iui ng to be a very controlled experiment because there are so many things to turn to.

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calochortus  May 30, 2018 • 3:10:04pm

re: #250 goddamnedfrank

I voted strategically for Villaraigosa. I preferred Chiang but want two Dems in the general. Not sure how to feel about how the California top two system calculus affects my decision making. On the one hand Chiang clearly seems like the most likely to continue Brown’s pragmatic fiscal policies, on the other hand he’s polling in third place and freezing out the GOP also just seems like basic civic responsibility.

That’s pretty much where I am. I really would like to vote for Chiang, but…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 30, 2018 • 3:10:15pm
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KGxvi  May 30, 2018 • 3:11:33pm

re: #244 calochortus

Speaking for myself, I’m undecided because I don’t like the leading candidates. I’m gonna have to make a decision soon.

I’m probably voting for Chaing. Definitely out on Villarigosa. Newsom, I think, will be fine. But it has been a rather quiet primary. Maybe it’s because I cut the cord on TV, but I’ve not seen many ads (I did randomly get a congressional ad on pandora the other day).

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electrotek  May 30, 2018 • 3:12:16pm

re: #252 Alephnaught

Ahem excuse me: Andrew Weatherall’s remix of the same tune is what comes to my mind.

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Andrew Weatherall is the man indeed.

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ObserverArt  May 30, 2018 • 3:13:05pm

Maya Wylie on Ari’s The Beat just asked why did Cohen make recordings?

She hints that is a strange practice and the only thing she can think of is there was some type of a criminal enterprise going on and the tapes were needed (like to hold them over someone).

Avenatti says a good lawyer doesn’t make tapes that can come back to haunt you.

I kind of wonder if Cohen knew Trump was an asshole and he did the tapes to have back up of Trump’s actions and to hold them over Trump if needed.

Cohen…only the best lawyers for The Donald.

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freetoken  May 30, 2018 • 3:13:18pm

re: #253 KGxvi

I just don’t see the conspiracy that you do.

I boldfaced the parts from the story that I thought relevant to the ego stroking of McMahon.

And yes, I claim that Linda McMahon got into Trump’s administration exactly because she had previously given Trump millions of dollars.

There is no evidence that NBCU did not want to keep the additional 2 hours of programming. USA Network in fact is desperate for any show with ratings so it makes no sense to let Smackdown go. I think a better way to look at it is that NBCU cannot afford to keep Smackdown.

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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2018 • 3:13:26pm

re: #249 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Owning that weapon would make also owning any two pieces of thin metal that can be clamped together around both triggers constructive possession of a “machine gun” under the law. A couple of paper clips could probably be jerry rigged to do the trick.

What a horrible idea that thing is.

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calochortus  May 30, 2018 • 3:14:46pm

re: #257 KGxvi

Ranked choice voting would be a great thing in this election.

I watch various network news programs, so I see a ton of political ads there. Virtually all the rest of my TV viewing is PBS, so it is pleasantly uninterrupted.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 30, 2018 • 3:14:54pm

re: #257 KGxvi

I’m probably voting for Chaing. Definitely out on Villarigosa. Newsom, I think, will be fine. But it has been a rather quiet primary. Maybe it’s because I cut the cord on TV, but I’ve not seen many ads (I did randomly get a congressional ad on pandora the other day).

I’m not in California. But isn’t this a situation where 2 Republicans could win because they get all the support from their smaller base but the Dem vote is so fragmented that they won’t emerge the victors?

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KGxvi  May 30, 2018 • 3:15:16pm

re: #250 goddamnedfrank

I voted strategically for Villaraigosa. I preferred Chiang but want two Dems in the general. Not sure how to feel about how the California top two system calculus affects my decision making. On the one hand Chiang clearly seems like the most likely to continue Brown’s pragmatic fiscal policies, on the other hand he’s polling in third place and freezing out the GOP also just seems like basic civic responsibility.

If Cox (or bigger long shot, Allen) get through to the general, their best case scenarios in the general will be about 40%. That’s what Kashkari did against Brown. So I’m not sure it makes much sense to vote “strategically” given the fact that the only way the general is competitive is if it’s between two Dems.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 30, 2018 • 3:15:45pm

Oh shit.
That could be a serious problem. That’s 12 years of prosecutions that could be tainted

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Belafon  May 30, 2018 • 3:16:26pm

re: #184 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Red Bank Baptist Church in South Carolina

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KGxvi  May 30, 2018 • 3:18:54pm

re: #263 Hecuba’s daughter

I’m not in California. But isn’t this a situation where 2 Republicans could win because they get all the support from their smaller base but the Dem vote is so fragmented that they won’t emerge the victors?

In local races, that’s possible. But statewide, Republican registration is about the same as independent registration (both around 25%). Most independents lean Democratic, so combined with the 45% or so that are registered Democratic, it’s highly improbable that two Republicans get through to the general.

We’ve seen that as a possibility in some Orange County districts that Clinton won and the Republican won the congressional election. But in those races, Democrats have been dropping out to avoid vote splitting.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2018 • 3:19:43pm

Evening Lizardim from the stormy, wet wild north country. So this popped up in my FB feed. It made me throw up a little bit in my mouth. Any idea how much of this is actually true? I haven’t tried to Snopes any of it yet, but I sincerely doubt most of it. How go things among the lizardfolk on this happy Hump Day?

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freetoken  May 30, 2018 • 3:20:07pm

re: #266 Belafon

Again… this is an old, old issue.

The crucifix was seen as a sign of papists. Baptists if anything else are anti-papist.

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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2018 • 3:20:32pm

re: #264 KGxvi

If Cox (or bigger long shot, Allen) get through to the general, their best case scenarios in the general will be about 40%. That’s what Kashkari did against Brown. So I’m not sure it makes much sense to vote “strategically” given the fact that the only way the general is competitive is if it’s between two Dems.

It’s not so much about the threat of a GOP governor candidate winning but about driving down GOP turnout in federal house seat races.

I mean, yeah that’s cynical as fuck but also people’s lives are on the line.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 30, 2018 • 3:24:50pm

re: #268 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Evening Lizardim from the stormy, wet wild north country. So this popped up in my FB feed. It made me throw up a little bit in my mouth. Any idea how much of this is actually true? I haven’t tried to Snopes any of it yet, but I sincerely doubt most of it. How go things among the lizardfolk on this happy Hump Day?

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See the following:
snopes.com

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jaunte  May 30, 2018 • 3:24:56pm

re: #268 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

snopes.com

As with everything related to Trump, where it isn’t false, it’s blatant self-promotion at the minimal cost.

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Single-handed sailor  May 30, 2018 • 3:25:17pm
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KGxvi  May 30, 2018 • 3:27:19pm

re: #260 freetoken

I boldfaced the parts from the story that I thought relevant to the ego stroking of McMahon.

And yes, I claim that Linda McMahon got into Trump’s administration exactly because she had previously given Trump millions of dollars.

There is no evidence that NBCU did not want to keep the additional 2 hours of programming. USA Network in fact is desperate for any show with ratings so it makes no sense to let Smackdown go. I think a better way to look at it is that NBCU cannot afford to keep Smackdown.

No, the stories about the WWE/NBCU deal said NBCU declined to keep Smackdown.

Sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that WWE’s Smackdown is being shopped to various networks after NBCUniversal — whose USA Network airs the highly rated pro wrestling matches — declined to re-up its deal.

I would not be surprised at all if Linda McMahon was appointed because Trump knows her. That’s a very Trumpian thing to have happen. And the fact that Murdoch was smart enough to blow smoke up Vince’s ass is about as shocking as the sun rising in the east.

But I think you’re stretching to find a link between Trump being president and WWE getting massive TV deals when the big money is in live events.

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gocart mozart  May 30, 2018 • 3:28:52pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 3:29:05pm

re: #268 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Evening Lizardim from the stormy, wet wild north country. So this popped up in my FB feed. It made me throw up a little bit in my mouth. Any idea how much of this is actually true? I haven’t tried to Snopes any of it yet, but I sincerely doubt most of it. How go things among the lizardfolk on this happy Hump Day?

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These memes are so stupid.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 3:29:52pm

re: #275 gocart mozart

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Ben is such a dishonest little hack.

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jaunte  May 30, 2018 • 3:31:47pm
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jaunte  May 30, 2018 • 3:32:19pm

Did someone say “dishonest hack?”

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 3:34:27pm

re: #279 jaunte

Did someone say “dishonest hack?”

Yeah that applies to Stein too. She’s a fraud. She shits on the Democrats all the time but nary a word about Trump hardly ever. I’d love to see how much Putin pays her to fuck things up.

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fern01  May 30, 2018 • 3:34:47pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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The LIES - they drop from her lips easier than when the president dictates them. And still the media will not CALL HIM WHAT HE IS

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ObserverArt  May 30, 2018 • 3:36:00pm

Jill Stein: The Green Grifter.

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freetoken  May 30, 2018 • 3:37:36pm

re: #274 KGxvi

Yes, NBCU decided to not bid for Smackdown, if the stories in the tabloids are to be believed.

Still, that does not mean they didn’t want Smackdown. I’m pointing out that it is more likely that NBCU couldn’t afford Smackdown.

Murdoch is going to be flush with assets to redo the entire Fox broadcasting empire, once all the deals with Disney and Comcast finish, whereby he is selling off the content creation parts (movies, television series production, etc.)

The new Fox is all about distribution.

And yes, clearly the hope is that Smackdown will be live sports entertainment, squeezed on Friday between the NFL on Thursday and whatever Fox does for sports on Saturday and Sunday. Murdoch is betting that a 4-night live broadcast series on Fox will do better than the often lame-rating shows that Fox broadcasting is now carrying.

Regarding Linda McMahon and Trump - the past clearly shows us to give no, absolutely no, leeway as for doubt in their motives and means.

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Belafon  May 30, 2018 • 3:38:12pm

re: #275 gocart mozart

Yeah, Ben, tell us how you were planning on voting for Hillary.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 3:38:23pm

re: #282 ObserverArt

Jill Stein: The Green Grifter.

What are really bad comic book villains, Alex?

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 3:39:02pm

re: #284 Belafon

Yeah, Ben, tell us how you were planning on voting for Hillary.

I was going to vote for Hillary and then she said those mean things about Trump voters, the same people that harassed me for being Jewish said no one who actually isn’t a dishonest hack.

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ObserverArt  May 30, 2018 • 3:39:47pm

re: #281 fern01

The LIES - they drop from her lips easier than when the president dictates them. And still the media will not CALL HIM WHAT HE IS

But Sarah was all offended with a comedian saying she was a liar. And so many backed her up saying how mean she was treated, she just does her job.

Job Description: Lie, dodge and deflect for the President.

Yep, jus’ doin’ her job.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 3:39:50pm

I think Ben’s an asshole but it’s not because he’s Jewish. It’s because he’s a dishonest little hack that makes his living spreading lies and only had a problem with Breitbart when its readers went after him.

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dangerman  May 30, 2018 • 3:40:23pm

re: #281 fern01

The LIES - they drop from her lips easier than when the president dictates them. And still the media will not CALL HIM WHAT HE IS

AND HER TOO for repeating it all and claiming it’s “truth”

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fern01  May 30, 2018 • 3:42:47pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

gaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh

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Whoever let their children go to that s.show are guilty of child abuse.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 3:44:39pm

re: #290 fern01

Whoever let their children go to that s.show are guilty of child abuse.

Have a nice life. //

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fern01  May 30, 2018 • 3:44:57pm

re: #153 jaunte

Trump will attempt to run walk 50 feet.

fixed that for you

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nines09  May 30, 2018 • 3:45:02pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 3:46:30pm

re: #293 nines09

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My God that’s tacky.

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Jack Burton  May 30, 2018 • 3:46:57pm

re: #250 goddamnedfrank

I voted strategically for Villaraigosa. I preferred Chiang but want two Dems in the general. Not sure how to feel about the way California top two system affects my decision making calculus. On the one hand Chiang clearly seems like the most likely to continue Brown’s pragmatic fiscal policies, on the other hand he’s polling in third place and freezing out the GOP also just seems like basic civic responsibility.

Chiang was my choice too but like you said he’s in 3rd. I might be way off base here, but I don’t necessarily think Newsom will go too far from the Brown example and keeping the GOP away from anything above annoying HOA president in the gated community is a priority.

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Interesting Times  May 30, 2018 • 3:47:13pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 30, 2018 • 3:48:07pm

Decent humans: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
NRA: (sulk)
Decent humans: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2018 • 3:50:05pm

re: #297 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Decent humans: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
NRA: (sulk)
Decent humans: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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That shit’s funny, I don’t care who y’are.

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freetoken  May 30, 2018 • 3:51:33pm

The State of California puts out voting guides for each election.

For the Primary election next Tuesday, I only have 140 pages to read.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2018 • 3:51:41pm

re: #298 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That shit’s funny, I don’t care who y’are.

Yeah? Well, I don’t care who YOU are, either!

(Sorry. I just always think that when I hear ‘That’s funny, I don’t care who you are’)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2018 • 3:53:44pm

re: #300 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah? Well, I don’t care who YOU are, either!

(Sorry. I just always think that when I hear ‘That’s funny, I don’t care who you are’)

It’s also the perfect retort to the oft-abused cliche, “Don’t you know who I am?!?!”

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William Lewis  May 30, 2018 • 3:54:22pm

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2018 • 3:54:31pm

re: #299 freetoken

The State of California puts out voting guides for each election.

For the Primary election next Tuesday, I only have 140 pages to read.

Ballot initiatives? Or candidate manifestos?

(Guess who goes into the voting booth without the care and study that responsible use of the franchise requires? That’s right - this guy!)

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 3:55:44pm

re: #297 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Decent humans: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
NRA: (sulk)
Decent humans: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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But how can that be? FNC told me that Dicks got “destroyed.” //

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The Major  May 30, 2018 • 3:56:32pm

re: #301 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

“Don’t you know who I am?!?!”

I believe former Sen. Larry “Mr. Wide Stance” Craig blurted that out when he got popped in a MSP airport bathroom….

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Belafon  May 30, 2018 • 3:58:31pm

re: #304 HappyWarrior

But how can that be? FNC told me that Dicks got “destroyed.” //

There are lots of hints that there are more people supporting liberal stances than conservative ones. It’s just getting us all pointed in the same direction that’s the issue.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 3:59:50pm

Lre: #306 Belafon

There are lots of hints that there are more people supporting liberal stances than conservative ones. It’s just getting us all pointed in the same direction that’s the issue.

I know man. I was being snarky.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 4:00:08pm

re: #305 The Major

I believe former Sen. Larry “Mr. Wide Stance” Craig blurted that out when he got popped in a MSP airport bathroom….

US Senator? Big deal huh?

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nines09  May 30, 2018 • 4:00:11pm

re: #294 HappyWarrior

My God that’s tacky.

What if…they………………………….leak?

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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2018 • 4:01:38pm

re: #297 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Decent humans: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
NRA: (sulk)
Decent humans: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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One secret the gun industry doesn’t like to talk about is that there isn’t that much profit on the retail side of selling guns. In California especially it’s a huge pain in the ass in terms of employee time consumed by transaction paperwork (plus you have to come back in 10 days to sign more paperwork for the release) and the margins suck. Their only saving grace is that the industry is Amazon proof, because new gun sales have to take place face-to-face and even though you can buy new guns on certain websites, the paperwork & physical transfer has to be done by an FFL.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 30, 2018 • 4:01:44pm

I am wondering if Putin has Cold War dirt on Stein.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2018 • 4:02:30pm

re: #307 HappyWarrior

L

I know man. I was being snarky.

You’d think the sarc tags would have given it away.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 4:02:52pm

re: #311 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I am wondering if Putin has Cold War dirt on Stein.

Not sure. Some think he does on Sanders fwiw. But I don’t know anything about Stein pre 2012.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 4:03:49pm

re: #312 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

You’d think the sarc tags would have given it away.

Ha or the fact I’d rather take a math test than watch FNC.

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Belafon  May 30, 2018 • 4:04:09pm

Good news on the ankle/fibula:

It’s been about 2.5 weeks since the break. I went in today. He poked around the break area, and I only have one small area that I even felt a bit of pain, and it was very light. Next week, I can start putting some weight on the foot, walking with the boot using crutches. He also says I can start doing some stretching exercises with my foot. The x-rays shows the pieces of the tip of my fibula seem to have shifted a little bit, but he wasn’t concerned, since they are showing signs of healing.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2018 • 4:04:14pm
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The Major  May 30, 2018 • 4:05:12pm

re: #308 HappyWarrior

US Senator? Big deal huh?

Some jokers up in that area wanted to put up a guerrilla sign marking the historical location of said Senator’s actions….

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Belafon  May 30, 2018 • 4:05:37pm

re: #307 HappyWarrior

L

I know man. I was being snarky.

I’m sorry, I meant to say I saw the snark tags. I left that out.

Having said that, I just think all these signs that there are more of us when we can get together for a common goal need to be pointed out.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2018 • 4:05:41pm

re: #316 Charles Johnson

One might almost argue that garbage human beings gravitated toward Trump because he represented their best chance of getting revenge on the people who made them feel bad.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 4:07:22pm

re: #318 Belafon

I’m sorry, I meant to say I saw the snark tags. I left that out.

Having said that, I just think all these signs that there are more of us when we can get together for a common goal need to be pointed out.

All good and I agree with oyu.

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William Lewis  May 30, 2018 • 4:09:10pm

re: #311 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I am wondering if Putin has Cold War dirt on Stein.

I’ve also often wondered if he doesn’t simply play the “hidden but unrepentant communist” for her (rather than simply being the thug dictator he is) and she’s swooning with ideological fervor.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 4:09:38pm

re: #316 Charles Johnson

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Non-garbage human beings don’t cheer candidates encouraging violence against protesters. Ben’s such a shitty hack. He knows first hand how awful people Trump supporters are but because as Frank says, he’s desperate to get back in their good graces, he’d rather engage in this shit. I just wish he would go away from public life forever. He contributes nothing to discussion. Just the fact that he’s a pathetic little man child that gets his kicks from going on campuses telling college kids they’re awful and that they should listen to smug pieces of shit like him. I’m sorry but I really hate Ben Shapiro because he’s the posterchild of everything wrong with conservatives who pretend they dislike Trump. I also haven’t forgotten calling Hagel, a Hamas fan.

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MsJ  May 30, 2018 • 4:10:30pm

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

Because I’ve never heard about it…

About Epoisses: The first Epoisses was made by monks in the Abbaye de Citeaux, in the heart of Burgundy. It is said that Napoleon liked this cheese very much. Epoisses is a remarkable cheese and follows a complicated traditional making process.

Epoisses making: Epoisses is one of last cheeses involving milk coagulation in France. The milk is coming from cows which have grazed for three months in the meadows of Burgundy. Epoisses is first washed with salty water. The cheese is kept in a humid cellar. After one month, Epoisses is washed again with a mix of rainwater and Marc de Bourgogne’s spirit, two to three times a week.

Tasting Epoisses: Epoisses has a powerful rich flavor, salty and creamy with a pungent smell.

Tasting advice: Epoisses is best combined with a raisin bread.

Epoisses and wine: White wine from Burgundy or sweet wine such as Sauternes. Alternatively, a Marc de Bourgogne’s spirit (French Wine Guide)

More French Cheeses: Chaource, Valencay

I now feel I must try it. Because I’m drooling. Badly.

Oh, and, “Marc de Bourgogne’s spirit”… Is that like…no, I have no idea (but I did LOL reading it).

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 4:10:35pm

re: #321 William Lewis

I’ve also often wondered if he doesn’t simply play the “hidden but unrepentant communist” for her (rather than simply being the thug dictator he is) and she’s swooning with ideological fervor.

That’s an interesting observation. He does play the devout Christian card hat with the Evangelicals.

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ObserverArt  May 30, 2018 • 4:10:50pm

re: #319 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

One might almost argue that garbage human beings gravitated toward Trump because he represented their best chance of getting revenge on the people who made them feel bad.

Bullies fight back!

Having felt bad for being called bullies all their lives the bullies fight back by picking a bully leader that allows them to be free to be bullies again.

MEGA MAGA

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 4:11:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 4:15:51pm

re: #323 MsJ

Because I’ve never heard about it…

I now feel I must try it. Because I’m drooling. Badly.

Oh, and, “Marc de Bourgogne’s spirit”… Is that like…no, I have no idea (but I did LOL reading it).

I liked this description:

You may not know it, but Epoisses is actually a French word meaning “completely worth the effort” or “stinky but incredibly loveable” because the end result, a custardy bacon bomb, is oh-so-worth-it.

murrayscheese.com

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2018 • 4:16:11pm

re: #325 ObserverArt

Bullies fight back!

Having felt bad for being called bullies all their lives the bullies fight back by picking a bully leader that allows them to be free to be bullies again.

MEGA MAGA

Yeah, well, I was a nerd in high school. I’m used to dealing with bullies. Just keep poking them like the mental punching bags that they are, and eventually they do something stupid that either gets them in trouble or leaves them so embarrassed that they crawl under a rock and leave you alone.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 4:16:45pm

re: #325 ObserverArt

Bullies fight back!

Having felt bad for being called bullies all their lives the bullies fight back by picking a bully leader that allows them to be free to be bullies again.

MEGA MAGA

We’re not allowed to fight back. They talk about how “mean” we are to them. I’m sorry but I remember how the right treated people like me who opposed Bush’s FP after 9/11. Questioning my patriotism because I opposed a war that most everyone agrees was a mistake is far worse than not liking that some liberal calls you out for being a bigot and despite what conservative say, we don’t think every conservative is a bigot, we just think most bigots definitely use conservaive talking points.

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Jay C  May 30, 2018 • 4:17:24pm

re: #323 MsJ

Oh, and, “Marc de Bourgogne’s spirit”… Is that like…no, I have no idea (but I did LOL reading it).

I’m guessing that THIS is the “Marc” referred to: brandy made from grape pressings (not wine), aka “grappa” in Italy: “Marc de Bourgogne” is marc from Burgundy: and in any case, probably isn’t too bad stuff to wash your cheese with…

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stpaulbear  May 30, 2018 • 4:17:59pm

re: #299 freetoken

The State of California puts out voting guides for each election.

For the Primary election next Tuesday, I only have 140 pages to read.

Do they mention that voting can be a cancer risk?

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MsJ  May 30, 2018 • 4:18:02pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 4:18:16pm

The ideology that brought the world Rush Limbaugh isn’t allowed to complain about bullying.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 30, 2018 • 4:24:47pm

re: #250 goddamnedfrank

I voted strategically for Villaraigosa. I preferred Chiang but want two Dems in the general. Not sure how to feel about the way California top two system affects my decision making calculus. On the one hand Chiang clearly seems like the most likely to continue Brown’s pragmatic fiscal policies, on the other hand he’s polling in third place and freezing out the GOP also just seems like basic civic responsibility.

Cannot vote for Mr. Gentrification. Will vote for Newsom because I don’t like Chaing using groups to slime Newsom.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 4:24:49pm

Seriously though if I have to hear again “Well you did this, this is why Trump supporters are like this.” Silly me but I remember an entire movement dedicated to questioning the previous President of the United States’ birthright as an American and I remember his sucessor being a big mover and shaker in that movement but yeah us calling you bigots “drove” you to Trump. You just don’t want ot take any responsibility for your shit.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2018 • 4:24:50pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 4:27:22pm

re: #336 Charles Johnson

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What pisses me off is he says shit like that and yet he’s also tried blaming the left for Nazism. Fuck him. I mean every word of that. Ben Shapiro’s a hateful little asshole who spent the day of his daughter’s birth raging at Barack Obama. He’s a total hack woh was fine with the Breitbart brand until he found out the hard way “They hate people like me too.” And he continues to lie about Trump not really being right wing to try to soothe whatever he calls his conscience.

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wrenchwench  May 30, 2018 • 4:27:53pm

The artist for whom I saved inner tubes made neither a lizard nor a raven. She made…Daisy. Out of inner tubes. And some gold shoes and lips.

Daisy
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Single-handed sailor  May 30, 2018 • 4:29:29pm

People wonder why the markets are confused.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 4:30:30pm

blech

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 4:31:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 4:32:06pm
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Patricia Kayden  May 30, 2018 • 4:33:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 4:33:56pm
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Single-handed sailor  May 30, 2018 • 4:33:56pm

Motherfucker!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2018 • 4:34:39pm

re: #345 Single-handed sailor

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Motherfucker!

There’s no real strategy, full stop.

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Ace Rothstein  May 30, 2018 • 4:35:14pm

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

Such shitty photos that come out of this regime.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 4:35:52pm

re: #345 Single-handed sailor

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Motherfucker!

Tehre never was.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 4:36:51pm

re: #347 Ace Rothstein

Such shitty photos that come out of this regime.

I bet he only invited her since her husband kissed his orange ass. He’s not going to do anything on CJ reform.

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ObserverArt  May 30, 2018 • 4:38:13pm

re: #333 HappyWarrior

The ideology that brought the world Rush Limbaugh isn’t allowed to complain about bullying.

They don’t think it is bullying though. That is just liberals being delicate untouchable flowers that can’t take tough talk. .

When did this stuff start?

Ari Melber had a guest on tonight (didn’t catch her name) that was discussing a new book about trolling and online bad behavior and that style. She said it is too easy to blame it on the ‘net and social media because in her studying it, she thinks a lot of it started with talk radio and taught the right the techniques to be what they are online now.

As we know, that brought us the lineage of Limbaugh and Coulter to Benny and Tammy.

I think it goes back even earlier and started with Reagan. Lee Atwater (Stone, Manafort) reopened the door to be loud and proud as bullies…but not to *cough*…hate anyone, just speaking the truth.

(I’ll try to post Ari’s discussion when his site posts tonight’s show.)

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Patricia Kayden  May 30, 2018 • 4:38:45pm

re: #341 Backwoods_Sleuth

I appreciate CK but hope that he comes around to recognizing how important it is to vote. A President Hillary Clinton wouldn’t be disparaging NFL players for protesting police brutality.

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freetoken  May 30, 2018 • 4:40:01pm

We are what we are because our ancestors killed each other, some more successfully than others:

The press release:

Wars and clan structure may explain a strange biological event 7,000 years ago

Starting about 7,000 years ago, something weird seems to have happened to men: Over the next two millennia, recent studies suggest, their genetic diversity -specifically, the diversity of their Y chromosomes - collapsed. So extreme was that collapse that it was as if there was only one man left to mate for every 17 women.

Anthropologists and biologists were perplexed, but Stanford researchers now believe they’ve found a simple - if revealing - explanation. The collapse, they argue, was the result of generations of war between patrilineal clans, whose membership is determined by male ancestors.

[…]

The paper:

Cultural hitchhiking and competition between patrilineal kin groups explain the post-Neolithic Y-chromosome bottleneck

With intergroup competition between patrilineal corporate kin groups, two mechanisms would operate to reduce Y-chromosomal diversity. First, patrilineal corporate kin groups produce high levels of Y-chromosomal homogeneity within each social group due to common descent, as well as high levels of between-group variation. Second, the presence of such groups results in violent intergroup competition preferentially taking place between members of male descent groups, instead of between unrelated individuals. Casualties from intergroup competition then tend to cluster among related males, and group extinction is effectively the extinction of lineages.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 4:40:46pm

re: #350 ObserverArt

They don’t think it is bullying though. That is just liberals being delicate untouchable flowers that can’t take tough talk. .

When did this stuff start?

Ari Melber had a guest on tonight (didn’t catch her name) that was discussing a new book about trolling and online bad behavior and that style. She said it is too easy to blame it on the ‘net and social media because in her studying it, she thinks a lot of it started with talk radio and taught the right the techniques to be what they are online now.

As we know, that brought us the lineage of Limbaugh and Coulter to Benny and Tammy.

I think it goes back even earlier and started with Reagan. Lee Atwater (Stone, Manafort) reopened the door to be loud and proud as bullies…but not to *cough*…hate anyone, just speaking the truth.

(I’ll try to post Ari’s discussion when his site posts tonight’s show.)

TBH I find Reagan more detestable than Nixon since Reagan would lie to your face while trying to portray himself as kind Grandpa Ron and had people like Atwater doing his dirty work.

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Patricia Kayden  May 30, 2018 • 4:41:41pm

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

What qualifications does Kim K have in regard to prison reform and sentencing? We are truly living in bizarro world. **rolls eyes**

P.S. It’s great that she’s interested in this issue but I don’t understand how she’s deemed so much of an expert that she gets to meet with the “President”.

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gocart mozart  May 30, 2018 • 4:42:16pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 4:42:24pm

re: #354 Patricia Kayden

What qualifications does Kim K have in regard to prison reform and sentencing? We are truly living in bizarro world. **rolls eyes**

P.S. It’s great that she’s interested in this issue but I don’t understand how she’s deemed so much of an expert that she gets to meet with the “President”.

I answered that. Her husband is a black celebrity who kissed his orangeness’s ass.

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2018 • 4:43:30pm

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Onion couldn’t come up with something this outrageous.

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ObserverArt  May 30, 2018 • 4:43:53pm

re: #347 Ace Rothstein

Such shitty photos that come out of this regime.

It is almost like they do not have an actual professional photographer with an eye for two dimensional design and context, etc.

It’s all Trump junk.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 4:44:12pm

re: #355 gocart mozart

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Really dude hate speech? I mean I can get not liking the words but have it your way. Mansplain isn’t even close to hate speech and I say that as not only a man but a man firmly confident in his masculinity.

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gocart mozart  May 30, 2018 • 4:44:56pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 4:45:17pm

I agree though that this predates the internet. I think a lot of it goes back to how the right responded to the 60’s.

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ObserverArt  May 30, 2018 • 4:45:37pm

re: #349 HappyWarrior

I bet he only invited her since her husband kissed his orange ass. He’s not going to do anything on CJ reform.

He invited her, or she herself, because it is reality TV ‘superstars’ getting together and we know Trump is the reality TV president.

Excuse me, Imma go throw up now.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 4:46:59pm

re: #362 ObserverArt

He invited her, or she herelf, because it is reality TV ‘superstars’ getting together and we know Trump is the reality TV president.

Excuse me, Imma go throw up now.

I hear ya. It’s yet another example of the RR’s hypocrisy btw too. If Obama had invited someone who was in a Sex Tape to the oval office, they’d lose their shit.

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2018 • 4:49:18pm

re: #362 ObserverArt

He invited her, or she herelf, because it is reality TV ‘superstars’ getting together and we know Trump is the reality TV president.

Excuse me, Imma go throw up now.

Two completely ignorant and talentless reality “stars” get together to talk about something neither of them has any knowledge of or interest in.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 4:50:15pm

Another phrase I hate “Stop trying to guilt us into voting for Democrats.” Oh I’m sorry but if you think Trump is a serious danger to this country, you should be voting for the party that is the most viable alternative instead of acting like a privileged brat by voting for the Green Party whose nominee btw is as far into Trump’s pal Putin as Trump is.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 4:50:29pm

re: #364 Skip Intro

Two completely ignorant and talentless reality “stars” get together to talk about something neither of them has any knowledge of or interest in.

that about sums it up.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 30, 2018 • 4:50:50pm

re: #331 stpaulbear

Do they mention that voting can be a cancer risk?

Have they changed their terms of service?

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 30, 2018 • 4:51:17pm

It is obvious something is up with Melania.

Used to be that we could count on the tabloids to at least gin this up and come up with scandalous theories but they are all in Trump’s pocket.

My guess, she either tried to kill herself or she got assaulted.

Today’s tweet from the FLOTUS account was insultingly phoney enough for Americans to start asking questions.

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ObserverArt  May 30, 2018 • 4:53:03pm

re: #364 Skip Intro

Two completely ignorant and talentless reality “stars” get together to talk about something neither of them has any knowledge of or interest in.

But think of the ratings!

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gocart mozart  May 30, 2018 • 4:53:32pm
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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 30, 2018 • 4:54:00pm

heh

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Ace Rothstein  May 30, 2018 • 4:54:11pm

re: #368 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

Be best.

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2018 • 4:54:30pm

re: #369 ObserverArt

But think of the ratings!

That’s why the media is going to promote the crap out of this.

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Interesting Times  May 30, 2018 • 4:54:55pm

re: #368 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

Today’s tweet from the FLOTUS account was insultingly phoney enough for Americans to start asking questions.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 30, 2018 • 4:57:02pm

re: #374 Interesting Times

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This a rerun of a 48 Hours I saw…….the husband faked the tweet while he was cutting his wife’s corpse up in the basement.

//

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 30, 2018 • 4:57:06pm

Can you twitter types get #wheresMelania onto the trending list?

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2018 • 4:57:16pm

re: #371 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

A billion updings.

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gocart mozart  May 30, 2018 • 5:00:36pm
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MsJ  May 30, 2018 • 5:01:35pm

re: #354 Patricia Kayden

What qualifications does Kim K have in regard to prison reform and sentencing? We are truly living in bizarro world. **rolls eyes**

P.S. It’s great that she’s interested in this issue but I don’t understand how she’s deemed so much of an expert that she gets to meet with the “President”.

She’s not interested in reform. She wants a pardon for her grandmother who was a first time drug offendee who got a life sentence.

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austin_blue  May 30, 2018 • 5:03:08pm

re: #186 KGxvi

something something John the Baptist something something DiVinci’s Last Supper something something

Can’t look like those Mackerel-snapping Mary Worshippers.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 5:04:13pm

re: #379 MsJ

She’s not interested in reform. She wants a pardon for her grandmother who was a first time drug offendee who got a life sentence.

I forgot about that detail.

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JordanRules  May 30, 2018 • 5:04:23pm

re: #379 MsJ

She’s not interested in reform. She wants a pardon for her grandmother who was a first time drug offendee who got a life sentence.

That lady is not her grandmother. She’s a grandmother and that’s part of what got Kim’s attention.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 30, 2018 • 5:04:53pm

re: #380 austin_blue

Can’t look like those Mackerel-snapping Mary Worshippers.

Nope, they’re too liberal and keep changing their views all the time.

//

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JordanRules  May 30, 2018 • 5:05:09pm

re: #381 HappyWarrior

I forgot about that detail.

Not her grandmother.

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JordanRules  May 30, 2018 • 5:07:16pm
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MsJ  May 30, 2018 • 5:07:26pm

re: #382 JordanRules

That lady is not her grandmother. She’s a grandmother and that’s part of what got Kim’s attention.

I thought I read the opposite but I don’t pay that much attention to them. They’re like something in my peripheral vision.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 5:10:04pm

moron

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JordanRules  May 30, 2018 • 5:11:09pm

CNN did really well with this. Probably worth bookmarking.

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PhillyPretzel  May 30, 2018 • 5:11:27pm

re: #387 Backwoods_Sleuth

And watch Dan lose because of DT’s endorsement.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 5:11:38pm
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Ace Rothstein  May 30, 2018 • 5:11:49pm

re: #387 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Kiss of Death just chalked up another seat for the Democrats.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2018 • 5:12:01pm

re: #387 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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“strong on Borders & Crime” - wait, so he wants stronger borders and stronger crime?

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Ace Rothstein  May 30, 2018 • 5:12:04pm

re: #390 Backwoods_Sleuth

I hope he dies in jail.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 5:12:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 5:13:38pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2018 • 5:15:13pm

re: #393 Ace Rothstein

I hope he dies in jail.

As an old, old man, after a long, miserable time.

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Patricia Kayden  May 30, 2018 • 5:16:41pm

re: #63 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Huh? I don’t get her response. Why does the press let her get away with such nonsense?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 5:16:54pm
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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 30, 2018 • 5:17:40pm

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PhillyPretzel  May 30, 2018 • 5:19:27pm

re: #399 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

Has anyone heard from her?

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 30, 2018 • 5:21:13pm

re: #400 PhillyPretzel

Has anyone heard from her?

It has been 20 days since anyone has seen her.

“She” released this tweet today:

I’m calling in a missing person report….

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2018 • 5:21:27pm

Kill me. Kill me now.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 5:21:30pm

re: #385 JordanRules

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See this is why I like HRC more than Bernie. HRC is willing to actually be happy about an accomplishment while Bernie is a doom and gloom jerk who never misses an opportunity to crap on the Dems.

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Patricia Kayden  May 30, 2018 • 5:21:36pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

I played shit stirrer. I called Trump a snowflake in my TL. :)

You mean that you told the truth. That’s not stirring anything.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 5:22:35pm

re: #404 Patricia Kayden

You mean that you told the truth. That’s not stirring anything.

You’re right but I know a few Trump supporters. I wanted to let them know loudly that they support the biggest snowflake of em all.

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freetoken  May 30, 2018 • 5:22:47pm

re: #401 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

Her lack of physical presence is extremely odd.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 5:22:54pm
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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 30, 2018 • 5:25:25pm

re: #406 freetoken

Her lack of physical presence is extremely odd.

Today’s fluff POTUS council on physical fitness photo op mess on the White House lawn was exactly the perfect time for her to at least show herself.

Something sticks to high heaven.

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freetoken  May 30, 2018 • 5:26:38pm

If something is wrong with Melania then I hope she got the help she needed, and given her position, she would have I hope.

However, I also fear that the ultra-ego of Trump, the unwillingness of him to show anything he fears is a weakness, may be what is keeping her from interacting publicly.

Trump is all about show, nothing about reality.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 5:27:42pm
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freetoken  May 30, 2018 • 5:27:43pm

Think back to how Melania looked at B. Bush’s funeral, with her interacting with the Obamas.

I wonder what really happened.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 5:28:29pm
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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 30, 2018 • 5:29:58pm

re: #411 freetoken

Think back to how Melania looked at B. Bush’s funeral, with her interacting with the Obamas.

I wonder what really happened.

Things seem to have been different since the news that Donald cheated on her with Stormy right after giving birth to Barron and they weren’t too happy looking before then.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 5:33:05pm
415
freetoken  May 30, 2018 • 5:33:15pm

I really believe, when the exposés are written about this administration, that ugliness will be revealed about the Administration as a whole, and in particular about Trump and his family.

There is no precedent for the malicious incompetence of Trump, as far as US Presidents go. Sure, some of his predecessors did some very bad things, but not in the type of incompetence that we are seeing.

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Sea Mexican!  May 30, 2018 • 5:35:50pm

re: #414 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, Rosentein might be screwed too?

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2018 • 5:36:39pm

re: #415 freetoken

I really believe, when the exposés are written about this administration, what ugliness will be revealed about the Administration as a whole, and in particular about Trump and his family.

There is no precedent for the malicious incompetence of Trump, as far as US Presidents go. Sure, some of his predecessors did some very bad things, but not in the type of incompetence that we are seeing.

There’s never been one so transparently in it solely for his own aggrandizement and financial gain.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 30, 2018 • 5:36:57pm

re: #415 freetoken

I really believe, when the exposés are written about this administration, that ugliness will be revealed about the Administration as a whole, and in particular about Trump and his family.

There is no precedent for the malicious incompetence of Trump, as far as US Presidents go. Sure, some of his predecessors did some very bad things, but not in the type of incompetence that we are seeing.

I’m more curious as to, in the years ahead, what kind of Americans will be around to read it.

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Ace Rothstein  May 30, 2018 • 5:37:21pm
420
ObserverArt  May 30, 2018 • 5:38:01pm

re: #414 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Well, we know one subject of the next round of Trump’s Angry Tweets™ will be McCabe.

And then he will fire him too.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 5:38:10pm

re: #412 Backwoods_Sleuth

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you have no diea how relieved I was to see the Post did that.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 5:39:01pm

re: #419 Ace Rothstein

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This is getting very weird especially because Michelle Obama never anything like that. Sorry I couldn’t resist but I don’t believe for a second she wrote that or dictated that.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 30, 2018 • 5:39:16pm

re: #416 Sea Mexican!

So, Rosentein might be screwed too?

Maybe the biggest thing that we blindly swallowed was believing that Rosenstein was maybe a good egg?

424
Targetpractice  May 30, 2018 • 5:39:16pm

re: #420 ObserverArt

Well, we know one subject of the next round of Trump’s Angry Tweets™ will be McCabe.

And then he will fire him too.

He’s already gone. Donny will just engage in yet more impotent rage.

425
Ace Rothstein  May 30, 2018 • 5:40:33pm

re: #422 HappyWarrior

It’s a joke.

426
Barefoot Grin  May 30, 2018 • 5:40:54pm

re: #423 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

Maybe the biggest thing that we blindly swallowed was believing that Rosenstein was maybe a good egg?

What I remember is that he was called “highly competent” and a “career survivor.”

427
ObserverArt  May 30, 2018 • 5:41:27pm

re: #424 Targetpractice

He’s already gone. Donny will just engage in yet more impotent rage.

Oh that’s right. I got his name mixed up with Chris Ray. Thanks!

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freetoken  May 30, 2018 • 5:41:35pm

Consider me jaded and biased, but when I look at Melania’s twitter feed I do not see tweets written by her, but rather tweets written by a political committee and PR person.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 5:43:01pm

re: #425 Ace Rothstein

It’s a joke.

D’oh. Sorry I saw the blue check mark and FLOTUS. Mea Cupla.

430
PhillyPretzel  May 30, 2018 • 5:43:05pm

re: #428 freetoken

You are not the only one.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2018 • 5:43:39pm

re: #426 Barefoot Grin

What I remember is that he was called “highly competent” and a “career survivor.”

He’s still Sessions’ deputy. Sessions was awful without Trump.

432
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 5:44:28pm

that grimace pretending to be a smile…

433
JordanRules  May 30, 2018 • 5:44:39pm

re: #425 Ace Rothstein

It’s a joke.

I knew it was a joke and also knew that it would likely not be clear that it’s one. It seems like it could be real in this bizarro world.

434
Targetpractice  May 30, 2018 • 5:45:29pm

Again, do we really need to bring up how the media would be acting if (for example) Michelle Obama had suddenly disappeared into a hospital for an unknown illness requiring immediate kidney surgery, followed by a total media blackout with no public appearances whatsoever?

435
Backwoods_Sleuth  May 30, 2018 • 5:45:50pm
436
Hecuba's daughter  May 30, 2018 • 5:45:52pm

re: #428 freetoken

Consider me jaded and biased, but when I look at Melania’s twitter feed I do not see tweets written by her, but rather tweets written by a political committee and PR person.

I think most of us (all of us?) here agree with that assessment.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2018 • 5:46:01pm

re: #420 ObserverArt

Well, we know one subject of the next round of Trump’s Angry Tweets™ will be McCabe.

And then he will fire him too.

What, again?

438
Renaissance_Man  May 30, 2018 • 5:46:22pm

re: #332 MsJ

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This article is almost what I’ve said for ten years now. It still doesn’t quite get it, because it argues that FOX is created to meet this demand for partisan fakery that somehow just magically exists in the electorate. The reverse is true, of course - FOX creates this demand, the same way any cult does.

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JordanRules  May 30, 2018 • 5:46:28pm

Because it has to be bigly!

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2018 • 5:46:48pm

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

that grimace pretending to be a smile…

[Embedded content]

While I’m sure there are those who have either had or known someone who is alive today because of an experimental drug that was just in the testing stage, this strikes me too much of companies being able to conduct clinical tests without the cost of paying volunteers.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 30, 2018 • 5:46:58pm

Does this televangelist really need a fourth $54 million private jet?

Prosperity gospel televangelist Jesse Duplantis is pleading with his followers, claiming he needs a $54 million jet to help him efficiently spread the gospel to as many people as possible, the Washington Post reports.

In a video posted to YouTube, television preacher Duplantis asked the Lord — and his hundreds of thousands of followers around the world — to fund a new Falcon 7X private jet.

I have the ideal private plane for pulpit pimps. True, it is out of production but it’s fairly easy to build and could be re-started with sufficient demand.
Yokosuka MXY-7 Ohka Suicide Aircraft

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 30, 2018 • 5:47:50pm

re: #434 Targetpractice

Again, do we really need to bring up how the media would be acting if (for example) Michelle Obama had suddenly disappeared into a hospital for an unknown illness requiring immediate kidney surgery, followed by a total media blackout with no public appearances whatsoever?

I am going with the theory that she was kidnapped by North Korea and will be released when Trump agrees for the US to get rid of all its nukes and North Korea getting an Arby’s.

The deal maker in action.

//

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gocart mozart  May 30, 2018 • 5:47:58pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 30, 2018 • 5:48:36pm

re: #402 Blind Frog Belly White

Kill me. Kill me now.

Matthew Yglesias
✔
@mattyglesias
2018
6:12 PM - May 30, 2018
71 71 Replies 61 61 Retweets 303 303 likes

Checking out prospective wife #4? Oh wait — Kim actually has some money so maybe not.

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Blind Frog Belly White  May 30, 2018 • 5:57:26pm

re: #423 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

Maybe the biggest thing that we blindly swallowed was believing that Rosenstein was maybe a good egg?

The sad thing is that by comparison with the rest of that mess, Rosenstein IS a good egg.

Funny thing is, Rosenstein’s memo on Comey was pretty much on target. Comey broke rules and violated norms and it may well have been wise to replace him, if it weren’t for the Russia investigation, for the reasons Rosenstein stated. But the Russia investigation did and does exist.

We find ourselves, in the Trump era, with a lot of people like this - not really good, and under any normal circumstance someone you’d want to see replaced - but under the current circumstance you don’t want to see them canned because of what might replace them. Comey, as someone put it, is in love with his own legend. Rex Tillerson was gutting State. Sessions is undoing decades of hard work on many progressive causes. Rosenstein provided cover for Trump to fire Comey.

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wheat-dogg  May 30, 2018 • 6:01:02pm

re: #439 JordanRules

It’s the desk that gets me.

“If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is an empty desk a sign?”
― Laurence J. Peter

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dangerman  May 30, 2018 • 6:33:48pm

re: #354 Patricia Kayden

What qualifications does Kim K have in regard to prison reform and sentencing? We are truly living in bizarro world. **rolls eyes**

P.S. It’s great that she’s interested in this issue but I don’t understand how she’s deemed so much of an expert that she gets to meet with the “President”.

What makes you think so?

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BeachDem  May 30, 2018 • 6:39:01pm

re: #387 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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There is no one better to represent the people of N.Y. and Staten Island (a place I know very well) than @RepDanDonovan, who is strong on Borders & Crime, loves our Military & our Vets, voted for Tax Cuts and is helping me to Make America Great Again. Dan has my full endorsement!

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dangerman  May 30, 2018 • 6:49:43pm

re: #415 freetoken

I really believe, when the exposés are written about this administration, that ugliness will be revealed about the Administration as a whole, and in particular about Trump and his family.

There is no precedent for the malicious incompetence of Trump, as far as US Presidents go. Sure, some of his predecessors did some very bad things, but not in the type of incompetence that we are seeing.

Complicit Congress
Absent media

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 30, 2018 • 11:26:05pm

re: #434 Targetpractice

Again, do we really need to bring up how the media would be acting if (for example) Michelle Obama had suddenly disappeared into a hospital for an unknown illness requiring immediate kidney surgery, followed by a total media blackout with no public appearances whatsoever?

we obsess more about a missing white woman than about missing children


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