Exclusive: Holocaust Denier Chuck C. Johnson Pays $25,000 to Settle Defamation Lawsuit

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Last February, a defamation lawsuit was filed against Holocaust denier Chuck C. Johnson, Gateway Pundit’s Jim Hoft (the fabled Stupidest Man on the Internet), far right weirdo Gavin McInnes, and a slew of other right wing bloggers and social media personalities, after they all parroted a report by Johnson that recklessly identified the wrong person as the perpetrator of the attack on counter protesters at the Charlottesville white supremacist rally last year.

The goal of this fake story was the same as it always is with these people: to try to blame an attack by a Nazi (that in this case resulted in the death of protester Heather Heyer) on liberals. It’s what they always do, but this time they tried to pin it on someone who fought back.

Today we can report exclusively that Chuck C. Johnson (who is NOT ME) has agreed to a settlement that will require him to pay nearly $5,000 personally, and nearly $20,000 from his “GotNews” business (a website that’s now pretty much abandoned). The documents are all linked here.

An interesting note: Johnson apparently agreed to pay these settlement amounts only a few days after hiring a new, very expensive attorney — which suggests that he was advised not to fight the suit because he would lose, and decided to cut his losses while he could.

Johnson likes to boast about being a “Bitcoin millionaire,” but I’m pretty sure he won’t be able to use Bitcoin to pay this. It’s about time these right wing conspiracy and fake news peddlers started to face consequences for their malicious acts.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:11:18pm

How did he pay it? Trump Casino chips?

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rhuarc  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:12:36pm

Great news! Too bad it was only $25,000. Should have been way more.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:13:38pm

Goatnews has 20 grand? How?

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Charles Johnson  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:15:39pm

re: #2 rhuarc

Great news! Too bad it was only $25,000. Should have been way more.

Agreed, but $25,000 is still going to hurt him. And next week he might get hit with an anti-SLAPP penalty in his lawsuit against Twitter.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:16:05pm

Hey! Maybe he used the royalties from his Coolidge book to come up with the cash! 😏

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:20:28pm

Following up on the last thread re: Al Qaeda upset about wrestlers wearing the cross:

I think they were referring to tattoos. Many wreslters have multiple tattoos of all kinds, including personal slogans, names of loved ones and yes, crosses.

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makeitstop  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:21:38pm

re: #3 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Goatnews has 20 grand? How?

Had.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:22:03pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

Agreed, but $25,000 is still going to hurt him. And next week he might get hit with an anti-SLAPP penalty in his lawsuit against Twitter.

Also Chuck was only one of 22 defendants, the lawsuit continues against the rest.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:22:09pm

re: #7 makeitstop

Had.

LOL.

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lawhawk  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:24:24pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:24:32pm

It would not surprise me if Chuck is on Robert Mueller’s list, too. He’s been involved in a lot of the stuff going on behind the scenes.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:24:36pm

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

Following up on the last thread re: Al Qaeda upset about wrestlers wearing the cross:

I think they were referring to tattoos. Many wreslters have multiple tattoos of all kinds, including personal slogans, names of loved ones and yes, crosses.

Ironic, since Leviticus prohibits tattoos.

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:26:35pm

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

There was also this, stemming from the same event:

si.com

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lawhawk  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:27:20pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

It would not surprise me if Chuck is on Robert Mueller’s list, too. He’s been involved in a lot of the stuff going on behind the scenes.

Coincidental that Trump’s gotten an upgrade in legal counsel? Yeah, I think not. I would surmise that Rage Furby knows that he’s in serious trouble and needs a legit legal counsel to deal with what’s likely coming his way. Settling out of this case was the smart move and lets him focus on the far more serious matter that opens him to potential criminal charges.it frees resources to deal with the most important problem he’s facing.

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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:29:20pm

Yeah, the lawyer told him “Take the $25,000 settlement offer, don’t be a choad.”

Shame it didn’t go to trial. The longer he would have testified, the more zeros the jury would have tacked on.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:29:30pm

Also just FYI no notice is filed yet for Joel Vangheluwe’s acceptance of the Got News LLC settlement offer, only his father Jerome’s acceptance is listed. Both plaintiffs accepted Chuck’s personal settlement offer. Probably just a technical delay but it’s also possible that Joel will be getting more out of Got News.

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dangerman  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:30:59pm

re: #10 lawhawk

What’s particularly hilarious, is if Mueller had been investigating Clinton, Hannity and the GOP howler monkeys would think it money well spent.]

they would think it’s not nearly enough money, not nearly a large enough investigating team, and why is it taking so long to just state the obvious truth

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Belafon  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:31:14pm

re: #12 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Ironic, since Leviticus prohibits tattoos.

If you’re going to get a biblical reference as a tattoo, it should be to that one.

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dangerman  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:33:16pm

re: #18 Belafon

If you’re going to get a biblical reference as a tattoo, it should be to that one.

it might cause you to self destruct / blow up

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scottslemmons  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:34:28pm

re: #15 gocart mozart

Yeah, the lawyer told him “Take the $25,000 settlement offer, don’t be a choad.”

“But pay me right now, ya ginger Nazi.”

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:49:18pm

Question for the lawyers about that Trump tweet calling for Sam Bee’s firing. Is there any point where he can be sued for tortious interference? I know executive acts don’t count as bills of attainder and similarly the first amendment technically applies to laws passed by Congress. I also know he’s immune from lawsuits stemming from official acts but it’s hard to see how that tweet qualifies and it seems like it violates the spirit if not the letter of the Constitution. Which is why I asked about tortious interference, I don’t see how he’s immune from the repercussions of abusing the power afforded by his status as President in a wholly private act clearly intended to damage the contractual relationships of a private citizen.

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lawhawk  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:52:37pm

re: #21 goddamnedfrank

Sued? Yes.
Win that suit? Not likely. It would be a novel case to be sure, and I can’t recall if/when it’s come up in the past.

But then again, before all this is over, we’re going to have an entirely new and voluminous catalog of cases relating to Trump and his admin.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:53:05pm

LOL Paul Nehlen seems really pressed by that lawsuit, his lawyer has filed THREE motions to dismiss.

strenuously object

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Charles Johnson  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:53:38pm

This is the Rage Furby’s new lawyer: crainsdetroit.com

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lawhawk  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:53:56pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:55:55pm

re: #23 goddamnedfrank

LOL Paul Nehlen seems really pressed by that lawsuit, his lawyer has filed THREE motions to dismiss.

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The other defendants can’t be happy that Furby caved in so quickly. They really got burned when they decided to recirculate his bullshit story.

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KGxvi  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:56:37pm

re: #21 goddamnedfrank

Question for the lawyers about that Trump tweet calling for Sam Bee’s firing. Is there any point where he can be sued for tortious interference? I know executive acts don’t count as bills of attainder and similarly the first amendment technically applies to laws passed by Congress. I also know he’s immune from lawsuits stemming from official acts but it’s hard to see how that tweet qualifies and it seems like it violates the spirit if not the letter of the Constitution. Which is why I asked about tortious interference, I don’t see how he’s immune from the repercussions of abusing the power afforded by his status as President in a wholly private act clearly intended to damage the contractual relationships of a private citizen.

It’d be difficult, I think. Here’s the California jury instructions on tortious interference with contract, it lays out the elements pretty well.

I’m not sure one could satisfactorily show that Trump’s actions “prevented performance or made performance more expensive or difficult.” Especially since advertisers have been dropping the show - if TBS were to cancel the show (not likely), then Trump’s defense team could point to advertisers making the decision to drop the show as being the real reason it was canceled.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:57:29pm

re: #22 lawhawk

Sued? Yes.
Win that suit? Not likely. It would be a novel case to be sure, and I can’t recall if/when it’s come up in the past.

But then again, before all this is over, we’re going to have an entirely new and voluminous catalog of cases relating to Trump and his admin.

It would be a reach but I’m imagining a situation where discovery produced documents showing that TBS executives explicitly discussed overt pressure being put on them by Trump and potential fallout for the company. I know it would take more than just that tweet but the tweet itself shows the danger of having a President this unhinged and prone to acting on personal grudges.

cf Amazon / Bezos / Washington Post

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:58:01pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

This is the Rage Furby’s new lawyer: crainsdetroit.com

So Ginger Snapped pays 25,000 to the plantiff and a bet it’s a sweet chunk o’change to his lawyer!

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MsJ  Jun 1, 2018 • 12:59:44pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

The other defendants can’t be happy that Furby caved in so quickly. They really got burned when they decided to recirculate his bullshit story.

Let them all burn.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:01:24pm

re: #2 rhuarc

Great news! Too bad it was only $25,000. Should have been way more.

Exactly. He got off lightly.

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wrenchwench  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:01:57pm

I just ‘early voted’ at the county admin. bldg. I happened to notice the drop-box for ‘property taxes and solid waste payments’. Then I come back and there’s a Chuck C. ‘floor pooper’ Johnson post! What a coincidence!

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KGxvi  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:02:06pm

re: #22 lawhawk

Sued? Yes.
Win that suit? Not likely. It would be a novel case to be sure, and I can’t recall if/when it’s come up in the past.

But then again, before all this is over, we’re going to have an entirely new and voluminous catalog of cases relating to Trump and his admin.

The constitutional stress that Trump has brought to bear is probably the best argument for a constitutional convention since 1789. But the potential ramifications of a convention would likely mean the end of the republic as we know it. Fuck, this is crazy shit we’re dealing with.

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wrenchwench  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:03:04pm

re: #33 KGxvi

Fuck, this is crazy shit we’re dealing with.

QFT.

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Belafon  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:07:02pm

re: #33 KGxvi

The constitutional stress that Trump has brought to bear is probably the best argument for a constitutional convention since 1789. But the potential ramifications of a convention would likely mean the end of the republic as we know it. Fuck, this is crazy shit we’re dealing with.

Here’s what you’d have to design: An enforcement mechanism that is strong enough even if the leader’s party controls the major branches of government, he/she can still be held accountable, but not so strong that it can’t be used to go after the president just because.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:08:35pm

re: #33 KGxvi

Yea, verily, shit is all fucked up. Of this there can be no doubt.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:10:15pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:11:58pm

re: #37 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Shannon Pettypiece? Kind of an unfortunate name for a journalist…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:14:05pm

re: #35 Belafon

Here’s what you’d have to design: An enforcement mechanism that is strong enough even if the leader’s party controls the major branches of government, he/she can still be held accountable, but not so strong that it can’t be used to go after the president just because.

I’m not sure how to design that, but I know it will involve a blockchain, since I’ve been assured that blockchains are the future.

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Kragar  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:14:42pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:15:57pm
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KGxvi  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:16:20pm

re: #35 Belafon

Here’s what you’d have to design: An enforcement mechanism that is strong enough even if the leader’s party controls the major branches of government, he/she can still be held accountable, but not so strong that it can’t be used to go after the president just because.

The thing is, we theoretically have those protections. The problem is we have politicians more beholden to party than to country. It’s ultimately a moral failing of leadership, and I’m not sure there’s any system (including Plato’s Republic) that can account for such a failure.

As for the constitutional convention. Just imagine the debate on rights? Is the right to privacy a constitutional right? Does that mean abortion is protected or is abortion no longer part of the right to privacy? Or the debate on whether to codify the administrative procedures act and effectively create a fourth branch of government?

There are a billion constitutional questions that would mean a much longer/more detailed constitution than what we have now.

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mmmirele  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:19:10pm

I’m going to the doctor in a little while because I need renewals on a whole raft of prescriptions…and I have an earache. It just feels weird going in at my age (late 50s) and saying, “I have an earache.” But I do, I have an earache. It’s not like it’s interfering with my life but it’s not normal. The PA will probably just look down my ear canal and see some inflammation and it will all be a big nothingburger. That’s what I keep telling myself because I haven’t had an earache since LBJ was in office.

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KingKenrod  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:20:37pm

re: #21 goddamnedfrank

Question for the lawyers about that Trump tweet calling for Sam Bee’s firing. Is there any point where he can be sued for tortious interference? I know executive acts don’t count as bills of attainder and similarly the first amendment technically applies to laws passed by Congress. I also know he’s immune from lawsuits stemming from official acts but it’s hard to see how that tweet qualifies and it seems like it violates the spirit if not the letter of the Constitution. Which is why I asked about tortious interference, I don’t see how he’s immune from the repercussions of abusing the power afforded by his status as President in a wholly private act clearly intended to damage the contractual relationships of a private citizen.

Civil rights violation seems like a better path, for violating her free speech, press, and association. The question is whether Trump is speaking as an individual vs as president, because Trump has his own free speech rights as an individual. But I think he loses that because Sarah Sanders, as part of her official job, attacked Bee on Trump’s behalf.

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Varek Raith  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:21:07pm

re: #43 mmmirele

I’m going to the doctor in a little while because I need renewals on a whole raft of prescriptions…and I have an earache. It just feels weird going in at my age (late 50s) and saying, “I have an earache.” But I do, I have an earache. It’s not like it’s interfering with my life but it’s not normal. The PA will probably just look down my ear canal and see some inflammation and it will all be a big nothingburger. That’s what I keep telling myself because I haven’t had an earache since LBJ was in office.

Or an alien.
Take this flamethrower.
/

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Renaissance_Man  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:21:13pm

re: #42 KGxvi

The thing is, we theoretically have those protections. The problem is we have politicians more beholden to party than to country. It’s ultimately a moral failing of leadership, and I’m not sure there’s any system (including Plato’s Republic) that can account for such a failure.

This is exactly the problem. The US was a system designed to have checks and balances within the law, the grand experiment of government that could change through consent and legal means, rather than war or hereditary succession. The US has always been a self-correcting system, even in the most trying of times.

Now, however, those checks and balances have failed, and continue to fail every day. They fail because the system did not and could not account for the massive corruption and debasement of not only one man, not only a dozen people, but millions. Millions of people utterly convinced of the most shameful lies, and wanting to be lied to for no other reason than to feed their hate.

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Belafon  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:21:56pm

re: #42 KGxvi

The thing is, we theoretically have those protections. The problem is we have politicians more beholden to party than to country. It’s ultimately a moral failing of leadership, and I’m not sure there’s any system (including Plato’s Republic) that can account for such a failure.

As for the constitutional convention. Just imagine the debate on rights? Is the right to privacy a constitutional right? Does that mean abortion is protected or is abortion no longer part of the right to privacy? Or the debate on whether to codify the administrative procedures act and effectively create a fourth branch of government?

There are a billion constitutional questions that would mean a much longer/more detailed constitution than what we have now.

A constitution written today would be a legal document, not a statement of ideals.

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Belafon  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:23:41pm

I don’t consider Trump to be our constitutional crisis. Our constitutional crisis is the GOP Congress’s failure to enforce the laws we have.

And we will have failed as a country when we, the people, decide we’re too tired to force Congress to do its job.

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Jay C  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:23:45pm

re: #33 KGxvi

re: #36 Charles Johnson

Like others here, I’m surprised that Chuckles The Troll even has $25G to cough up - maybe that’s his portion of the settlement because it’s most (one would hope ALL) of his ready cash?

And as for a Constitutional Convention? I’d say - at the minimal least - An Extraordinarily Bad Fucking Idea. The notion of a CC has been bruited about for years: almost always by the extreme wingiest of wingnuts, who are typically Terminally Butthurt by having to abide by some of the provisions of the current document. Like those relating to freedom of the press, speech, religion, etc: guarantees of due process, restrictions on legal powers, restrictions on state powers, etc.: all of which CC enthusiasts seem to think are bad ideas - or at least should only be applied to “deserving” citizens (and you can guess how “deserving” would be defined). Yeah, the 1789 Constitution has some flaws: but it would be a pretty sure bet that whatever might replace it would be - again, at the minimal least - orders-of-magnitudes worse.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:24:12pm

re: #43 mmmirele

I’m going to the doctor in a little while because I need renewals on a whole raft of prescriptions…and I have an earache. It just feels weird going in at my age (late 50s) and saying, “I have an earache.” But I do, I have an earache. It’s not like it’s interfering with my life but it’s not normal. The PA will probably just look down my ear canal and see some inflammation and it will all be a big nothingburger. That’s what I keep telling myself because I haven’t had an earache since LBJ was in office.

I’m 51 and had my first earache in about 40 years last month. My ear canal was swollen shut, but a couple of days of alternating hot and cold packs got it back to normal.

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freetoken  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:25:16pm

re: #42 KGxvi

Constitutional conventions are not held anymore because we (and most any other country) are too large.

What is important for any of us to care about are elections.

Especially state elections, and this is where I fear many people just give up.

We as a society still have remnants of theocracy in our blood. By which I mean that many people still want to think top down. They will go out to vote for President but not show up in other elections for other offices.

The past 40 years or so, the religious right has won over and over in the statehouses, because they show up in off-year elections.

Most of the fuckery with rights is happening at the state legislature level.

Trump is not the creator of America’s current atavism. He’s the benefactor, the guy who knows how to manipulate to reap the benefit without doing the work.

The work of atavism has been done day in and day out in local politics, where the religious right shows up dare I say religiously, and if the rest of us don’t show up then we lose.

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freetoken  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:26:23pm

Left off the important word “not” in that little rant…so reload for the proper rant.

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Belafon  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:26:39pm

re: #43 mmmirele

I’m going to the doctor in a little while because I need renewals on a whole raft of prescriptions…and I have an earache. It just feels weird going in at my age (late 50s) and saying, “I have an earache.” But I do, I have an earache. It’s not like it’s interfering with my life but it’s not normal. The PA will probably just look down my ear canal and see some inflammation and it will all be a big nothingburger. That’s what I keep telling myself because I haven’t had an earache since LBJ was in office.

I developed an ear infection when I was 42, 6 years ago. It actually damaged my high pitch hearing, which was truly annoying because I took care of my hearing, rarely playing things like music much louder than what I needed to hear.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:27:55pm

re: #49 Jay C

Like others here, I’m surprised that Chuckles The Troll even has $25G to cough up - maybe that’s his portion of the settlement because it’s most (one would hope ALL) of his ready cash?

And as for a Constitutional Convention? I’d say - at the minimal least - An Extraordinarily Bad Fucking Idea. The notion of a CC has been bruited about for years: almost always by the extreme wingiest of wingnuts, who are typically Terminally Butthurt by having to abide by some of the provisions of the current document. Like those relating to freedom of the press, speech, religion, etc: guarantees of due process, restrictions on legal powers, restrictions on state powers, etc.: all of which CC enthusiasts seem to think are bad ideas - or at least should only be applied to “deserving” citizens (and you can guess how “deserving” would be defined). Yeah, the 1789 Constitution has some flaws: but it would be a pretty sure bet that whatever might replace it would be - again, at the minimal least - orders-of-magnitudes worse.

The folks who want a Constitutional Convention basically want to codify white political dominance for as long as possible, demographic change notwithstanding. They want to take advantage of current actual gerrymandering as well as the de facto gerrymandering caused by the urban concentration of Democratic-leaning minorities.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:28:01pm

re: #43 mmmirele

I had an earache recently too - turned out to be wax buildup. The doc broke out the Industrial Strength Ear Flushing Utensil, ran a bunch of warm water through my head several times, and eventually it all washed out.

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wrenchwench  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:30:04pm

re: #43 mmmirele

I’m going to the doctor in a little while because I need renewals on a whole raft of prescriptions…and I have an earache. It just feels weird going in at my age (late 50s) and saying, “I have an earache.” But I do, I have an earache. It’s not like it’s interfering with my life but it’s not normal. The PA will probably just look down my ear canal and see some inflammation and it will all be a big nothingburger. That’s what I keep telling myself because I haven’t had an earache since LBJ was in office.

I have tinnitus, as of the middle of May. Apparently, it’s practically normal. I got a referral to an audiologist, pending something. I used to get earaches as the first sign of everything, when I was a kid. At least I finally learned that it’s not ‘tintinitus’. I must have thought it was named for Rin Tin Tin for some reason.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:30:26pm

re: #43 mmmirele

I’m going to the doctor in a little while because I need renewals on a whole raft of prescriptions…and I have an earache. It just feels weird going in at my age (late 50s) and saying, “I have an earache.” But I do, I have an earache. It’s not like it’s interfering with my life but it’s not normal. The PA will probably just look down my ear canal and see some inflammation and it will all be a big nothingburger. That’s what I keep telling myself because I haven’t had an earache since LBJ was in office.

“I ain’t goin’ to school today. I got a earache!”

“‘Earache’ my eye! I’ll give you a buttache!”

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Dave In Austin  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:31:03pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

I had an earache recently too - turned out to be wax buildup. The doc broke out the Industrial Strength Ear Flushing Utensil, ran a bunch of warm water through my head several times, and eventually it all washed out.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:32:16pm

re: #56 wrenchwench

I have tinnitus, as of the middle of May. Apparently, it’s practically normal. I got a referral to an audiologist, pending something. I used to get earaches as the first sign of everything, when I was a kid. At least I finally learned that it’s not ‘tintinitus’. I must have thought it was named for Rin Tin Tin for some reason.

I had tinnitus for a year after going to a Ramones, Iggy Pop, Dickies show. I was deaf by the time the second band took the stage. It’s back a little bit now that I’m getting old.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:32:29pm

One of the side effects of diabetes is drying out of the ear canal and the flakes fall which irritates me to no end. Dr prescribed Clinere sticks that I use to clean the ears a couple times during the day.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:33:34pm

re: #58 Dave In Austin

Those are fine. You need to watch out for this kind.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:34:48pm

re: #57 Blind Frog Belly White

“I ain’t goin’ to school today. I got a earache!”

“‘Earache’ my eye! I’ll give you a buttache!”

Alice Bowie - Earache My Eye

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:37:41pm

re: #43 mmmirele

I’m going to the doctor in a little while because I need renewals on a whole raft of prescriptions…and I have an earache. It just feels weird going in at my age (late 50s) and saying, “I have an earache.” But I do, I have an earache. It’s not like it’s interfering with my life but it’s not normal. The PA will probably just look down my ear canal and see some inflammation and it will all be a big nothingburger. That’s what I keep telling myself because I haven’t had an earache since LBJ was in office.

your latest earworm got stuck and can’t turn around to leave…

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wrenchwench  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:38:13pm

re: #59 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I had tinnitus for a year after going to a Ramones, Iggy Pop, Dickies show. I was deaf by the time the second band took the stage. It’s back a little bit now that I’m getting old.

Saw the Ramones twice and met them once, met the Dickies and saw them at the Whisky A Go Go, and several other loud bands. Never had it before. At least the ringing in my ears is not very loud. And have yet to see Iggy.

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freetoken  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:40:01pm

Social media algorithms are like, the stupidest algorithms…

For some reason, Twitter flagged the following video as having “sensitive” material and I had to click ok to view it:

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:41:19pm

re: #64 wrenchwench

Saw the Ramones twice and met them once, met the Dickies and saw them at the Whisky A Go Go, and several other loud bands. Never had it before. At least the ringing in my ears is not very loud. And have yet to see Iggy.

Nice.

I once missed a Dickies show because it was the same time as a Ramones show. It
turned out that the Dickies went on late so the Ramones could see their show.
I’ve never met the members of either band.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:42:32pm
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Varek Raith  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:44:17pm

re: #67 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Ha!

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Interesting Times  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:48:41pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:48:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:52:15pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:52:36pm
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KGxvi  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:55:26pm

For the record, I don’t favor a constitutional convention. I think the most likely outcome would be dissolution of the Union were it to happen. I just don’t see how you write a constitution today that gets ratified by voters in states as diverse as California, Texas, Florida, Maine, and Wyoming.

The closest thing we’ve seen to a constitutional convention recently was the Treaty of Lisbon. That took six months to negotiate and was the fourth EU treaty since the early 1990’s. It would take twice as long to write a new US constitution, which means there would invariably be elections going on while it was happening.

Add in the fact that social media would lead to leaks of every debate/discussion that it’s fairly obvious that nothing would ever actually be accomplished.

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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:56:24pm

As retweeted by that other professional snowflake, Roseanne Barr.

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KGxvi  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:56:42pm

re: #71 Backwoods_Sleuth

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that hollywood liberal elitist commie pinko? fucking RINO!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:57:15pm
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KGxvi  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:58:39pm

re: #74 gocart mozart

As George Washington once famously said, “dafuq?”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 1, 2018 • 1:59:43pm

re: #73 KGxvi

“No, I don’t think LOL belongs in the Constitution…and that’s way too many exclamation points.”

“Can we at least keep the emojis in?”

“…sigh…”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:04:41pm

JEEBUS!

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KGxvi  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:06:28pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m beginning to think the Second Amendment shouldn’t apply to white guys.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:07:40pm

O_o

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freetoken  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:08:22pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

Atavism in full swing.

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Mike Lamb  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:08:37pm

re: #74 gocart mozart

As retweeted by that other professional snowflake, Roseanne Barr.

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Suck it, you feckless C-U-Next-Tuesday.

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lawhawk  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:09:44pm

re: #73 KGxvi

A handful of states have tried their hand at a constitutional convention, and that too has been a mixed bag. Some states are required to place a question on the ballot every number of years to hold one. Most of these have failed.

People seem to forget that the constitutional convention was basically done in secret, and it was drafted in secret to then be publicly declared the end product. Even then the founders knew that leaking out information about what was being drafted could sabotage the entire endeavor.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:10:45pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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Ah, just what we need…more brain damaged boogie…

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dangerman  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:11:23pm

re: #25 lawhawk

Trump’s being played and that’s McConnell’s warning that Trump’s so fixated on getting a meeting that he’s giving up all kinds of concessions in the process.

that’s also mcconnell saying this is negotiating 101 and you dont have to read ‘the art of the deal’ to know this

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KGxvi  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:12:45pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ok, I’ll admit, I’m mildly intrigued. Not enough to actually buy the PPV, but as a fight fan, I will probably look for results/info on the event at some point this weekend.

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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:13:58pm
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dangerman  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:14:30pm

re: #31 Patricia Kayden

Exactly. He got off lightly.

jump to 1:10

YouTube

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dangerman  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:15:24pm

re: #35 Belafon

Here’s what you’d have to design: An enforcement mechanism that is strong enough even if the leader’s party controls the major branches of government, he/she can still be held accountable, but not so strong that it can’t be used to go after the president just because.

that used to be congress

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:15:36pm
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Renaissance_Man  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:15:59pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

JEEBUS!

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Law-abiding gun owner.

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Amory Blaine  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:16:59pm

Eagerly awaiting the shot of CCJ broke and homeless, shitting in an alley.

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TedStriker  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:17:02pm

re: #61 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Those are fine. You need to watch out for this kind.

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Star Trek II: Chekov Screams Again!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:17:20pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:18:35pm

Beatya by 1:45, Patton. Admittedly, it is an obvious joke.

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KGxvi  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:19:18pm

re: #84 lawhawk

A handful of states have tried their hand at a constitutional convention, and that too has been a mixed bag. Some states are required to place a question on the ballot every number of years to hold one. Most of these have failed.

People seem to forget that the constitutional convention was basically done in secret, and it was drafted in secret to then be publicly declared the end product. Even then the founders knew that leaking out information about what was being drafted could sabotage the entire endeavor.

We get constitutional amendments on the ballot here in California every couple of election cycles, but never an actual call for a convention - probably because it is so easy to amend.

As for the convention in 1789, I’m fairly certain that a big part of that was the fact that even though they were supposed to just fix the Articles of Confederation, they pretty much immediately agreed to create a whole new system.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:21:22pm
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KGxvi  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:21:46pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

We’ve literally elected Humpty Dumpty…

Wingnut Logic
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:23:45pm

re: #99 KGxvi

We’ve literally elected Humpty Dumpty…

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Hopefully this one won’t get his wall.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:25:02pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:25:44pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:27:04pm

re: #81 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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This is really dumb. Pads weren’t invented to protect people’s faces, they were invented to keep boxers from breaking the bones in their hands. The human hand (particularly the fifth metacarpal) is remarkably fragile in comparison to the strength a person can put into a punch.

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Skip Intro  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:29:36pm

re: #69 Interesting Times

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They’re planning the coup.

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TedStriker  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:30:42pm

re: #93 Amory Blaine

Eagerly awaiting the shot of CCJ broke and homeless, shitting in an alley.

Schadenfreude would be a pic of CCJ drinking bum wine in the gutter.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:31:59pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:33:02pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

JEEBUS!

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I witnessed a very similar incident in Lubbock about 25 years ago. I was in the front yard. My neighbor Mark,, who lived on the left hand side, came driving down the street. He missed his driveway and drove past my house. He suddenly realized his mistake and stopped in front of the house on the other side. He reversed and backed up toward his driveway. As he reached the driveway, the idiot who lived across the street came running out of his house waving a shotgun. He ordered Mark out of the car. I told my wife to call the police. The idiot screamed that Mark was a pedophile who had stopped suddenly to kidnap the idiot’s 4 year old son, who was playing in the front yard. Mark kept yelling, “But I live here!”
The idiot yelled, “You’re a freak looking for kids to abduct!” I got the idiot to give me his gun before the police arrived. They checked Mark’s ID, got my account, and arrested the idiot. He was out in a few days and moved away immediately. He claimed he knew Mark lived in that house but was STILL sure he was only coming back to grab the boy and not to, say, go into his own home. He got 90 days in jail and probation.

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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:34:41pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:35:17pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:37:51pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:39:52pm
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Teukka  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:41:31pm

re: #43 mmmirele

I’m going to the doctor in a little while because I need renewals on a whole raft of prescriptions…and I have an earache. It just feels weird going in at my age (late 50s) and saying, “I have an earache.” But I do, I have an earache. It’s not like it’s interfering with my life but it’s not normal. The PA will probably just look down my ear canal and see some inflammation and it will all be a big nothingburger. That’s what I keep telling myself because I haven’t had an earache since LBJ was in office.

re: #55 Charles Johnson

I had an earache recently too - turned out to be wax buildup. The doc broke out the Industrial Strength Ear Flushing Utensil, ran a bunch of warm water through my head several times, and eventually it all washed out.

Check the pharmacy out for ear oil, I use a brand named Vaxol but there are other brands too. Basically, it’s medical grade vegetable oil and helps the ear canal to keep non-attractive for wax. Some brands have a bulb for flushing your ear canal at home in the package as an option.

Also remember that you should insert anything smaller than an elbow into your ear canal.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:42:34pm

Relic from 1964 (This is undergoing a revival by RWNJs who would be horrified if they knew that Goldwater was strongly pro-choice.)

Democrats retorted, “In your guts you know he’s nuts.”

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Amory Blaine  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:42:37pm

Some dude died at a Ghost concert here yesterday. I guess he collapsed in the mosh pit.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:42:56pm

re: #110 goddamnedfrank

“Hate on David Duke all you want …”

Thanks!

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:44:27pm
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freetoken  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:49:41pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

I so hope Trudeau and his ministers go all out on Trump.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:55:55pm

re: #117 freetoken

I so hope Trudeau and his ministers go all out on Trump.

Then Trump retaliates by calling for a wall on our northern border…in clear violation of the Webster-Asburton Treaty…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:56:23pm
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KGxvi  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:56:30pm

re: #117 freetoken

I so hope Trudeau and his ministers go all out on Trump.

why is our economy so bad when everyone else is doing so good? we need more tarrifs!

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KGxvi  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:57:24pm

re: #118 Joe Bacon 🌹

Then Trump retaliates by calling for a wall on our northern border…in clear violation of the Webster-Asburton Treaty…

South Park did it.

southpark.cc.com

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scottslemmons  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:57:45pm

re: #113 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Relic from 1964 (This is undergoing a revival by RWNJs who would be horrified if they knew that Goldwater was strongly pro-choice.)

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Democrats retorted, “In you guts you know he’s nuts.”

My folks found some of their ancient Goldwater material, most of it in pretty good shape, a few weeks ago. I’ve been thinking of taking pictures of ‘em to put on Instagram — I’m torn between my desire to post pictures of old stuff and not wanting to post Republican stuff… :/

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:57:58pm

re: #89 dangerman

LOL. Exactly.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:57:58pm

re: #118 Joe Bacon 🌹

Then Trump retaliates by calling for a wall on our northern border…in clear violation of the Webster-Asburton Treaty…

Good luck trying to get Canada to pay for it.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:58:32pm
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freetoken  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:58:33pm

re: #118 Joe Bacon 🌹

The G7 meeting next week ought to be a hoot. I suppose this or that leader might court Trump for some special favor, but I can’t imagine Trudeau, May, or Macron or Merkel bending to Trump. The Japanese might, but the other’s will not.

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freetoken  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:59:23pm

It would not surprise me if Trump finds a way to avoid the G7, or if he does go, then find a way to leave early.

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Jay C  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:59:35pm

re: #106 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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So, assuming that the overall death figures for PR are reasonably steady over time, the “spike” for Sept., Oct. and Nov. of 2017 looks to be about 1400 more than the previous period: which is an easily-believable number from a hurricane as bad as Maria (and certain more credible than the ludicrous “64” number our idiot government has been clinging to) - but way short of the “4500+ ” that has been floated around.

I mean, with as destructive a storm as Maria, the higher number is sadly believable as well, I’m just curious as to the discrepancy.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 1, 2018 • 2:59:39pm

re: #119 The Vicious Babushka

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Ah 25K to settle that lawsuit, 25K in legal fees, child support and alimony payments to his ex…Ginger Snapped is going to have to get a real job at In-N-Out…and he can chat with Baked Alaska out in the parking lot…

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Egregious Philbin  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:01:02pm

I bet that Chucky Baby needs to mop up all the poop on his floor….

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freetoken  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:02:35pm

re: #129 Joe Bacon 🌹

I wonder if he will try bankruptcy.

Legal settlements are protected through bankruptcy?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:04:10pm

re: #131 freetoken

I wonder if he will try bankruptcy.

Legal settlements are protected through bankruptcy?

Karma for Ginger Snapped would be filing for Social Security Disability and having the claim denied…

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freetoken  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:04:22pm

re: #128 Jay C

The late summer/august spike is clearly a statistical outlier, by a great amount. This alone will tell us that these additional deaths are not a random occurrences.

It’s pretty clear that the lack of health care and proper sanitation are going to be issues that come up over and over.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:06:52pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:09:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:09:11pm

re: #126 freetoken

The G7 meeting next week ought to be a hoot. I suppose this or that leader might court Trump for some special favor, but I can’t imagine Trudeau, May, or Macron or Merkel bending to Trump. The Japanese might, but the other’s will not.

he will just send Javanka.

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Skip Intro  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:10:30pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

he will just send Javanka.

I think that’s exactly what he’ll do.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:13:51pm

I HAVE ARRIVED ! ! !

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Stanley Sea  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:17:24pm
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TedStriker  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:17:39pm

re: #137 Skip Intro

I think that’s exactly what he’ll do.

Or Pence.

Trump himself, he’s doesn’t have the balls to go there now with all of the bear-poking he’s given them lately.

I wonder what lame-ass excuse we’ll get from the WH.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:19:29pm

re: #139 Stanley Sea

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:21:10pm

Note that the Furby has still not sued anyone for claiming that he shat on the floor.
I wonder if there is a video?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:22:56pm

re: #142 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Note that the Furby has still not sued anyone for claiming that he shat on the floor.
I wonder if there is a video?

Considering that all the faux-“alpha males” like Chuckie make a big deal out of not eating salad, maybe there’s what you might call ‘hard evidence’…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:24:10pm

re: #143 Blind Frog Belly White

Though it does remind me of ‘This Is Spinal Tap’ - “You can’t dust for vomit.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:26:17pm

video

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:28:09pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:31:25pm

The latest Joy Reid kerfuffle strikes me as ridiculous.

Now that McCain’s dying of Glioblastoma, they drag up some 11 year old post made in response to McCain telling a rally at a gun company that if he were younger he’d shoot Osama bin Laden with one of their guns. And she posted a picture of his head ‘shopped onto a guy holding two guns, which I guess turned out to be the Virginia Tech shooter.

“How can you be so disrespectful to an American Hero dying a horrible death?”

Well, at the time, he was a guy running for President, saying stupid swaggering horseshit.

“How dare you accuse an American Hero dying a horrible death of saying stupid swaggering horseshit?”

(rolls eyes)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:36:39pm

apparently the Coast Guard is a “brand”…

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ckkatz  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:37:04pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

JEEBUS!

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Dude’s already in jail.

cbsnews.com

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mmmirele  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:38:34pm

Returned from the PA’s…nothing outwardly wrong with my ear but they did get me scheduled for a colonoscopy consult in 10 days. (I’ve been putting it off.) And I’m 8 pounds lighter than I was in January.

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Renaissance_Man  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:39:14pm

re: #150 mmmirele

Returned from the PA’s…nothing outwardly wrong with my ear but they did get me scheduled for a colonoscopy consult in 10 days. (I’ve been putting it off.) And I’m 8 pounds lighter than I was in January.

That’s an unusual way to look at the inner ear.

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TedStriker  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:40:00pm

re: #151 Renaissance_Man

That’s an unusual way to look at the inner ear.

Sounds like the reaaallly long way to me…

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Skip Intro  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:42:12pm

re: #152 TedStriker

Sounds like the reaaallly long way to me…

They charge by the inch.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:43:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:44:15pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:47:02pm

It is a well-established scientific principle that every accusation that Trump levels against Democrats is actually some nefarious activity he’s engaged in. So — for years he claimed that unemployment was much higher than the official reports and the jobs reports were suspicious: my question — is it possible that the statistics this morning are manipulated figures that are, in fact, not true?

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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:48:14pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:51:45pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:52:57pm

re: #151 Renaissance_Man

That’s an unusual way to look at the inner ear.

“Take the long way home.”

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BeachDem  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:53:18pm

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

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apparently the Coast Guard is a “brand”…

Sounds like the same bullshit speech he gave to the Coast Guard in Florida on Thanksgiving—same “brand” crap. Oh, except he probably had to leave out the introduction to Melon, as I’m assuming she’s still among the missing and wasn’t with him today.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:53:36pm
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wheat-dogg  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:54:54pm

re: #161 Charles Johnson

Diplomacy is now done by exchanging greeting cards.

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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:55:10pm
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scottslemmons  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:56:42pm

re: #155 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wow, the ratio on that is pretty amazing.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:58:15pm

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Frankly the argument that pardons shouldn’t be given to people who are clearly guilty is a weak one since the Burdick decision makes the acceptance of a pardon an implicit admission of guilt.

A better argument is that pardons are supposed to be an act of grace by the executive that somehow benefits and heals society. For instance George Washington gave the first two pardons to John Mitchell and Phillip Weigel, convicted of treason, because he didn’t want to see them hanged and become martyrs which might have led to further riots and destabilization. There was no question that the two men were guilty and the pardons weren’t given to benefit the men or the anti Whiskey tax political faction they represented but were instead given to show that the federal government was merciful and just, strong but not tyrannical.

The real problem with Arpaio, D’Souza and Libby’s pardons is that they were implicitly carried out in the furtherance of a political gambit by the President to undermine the government’s authority in ongoing law enforcement proceedings that he believes threaten him personally. The entire goal of these pardons is to test the waters for more explicit acts of obstruction of justice.

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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2018 • 3:58:34pm
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dangerman  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:03:07pm

re: #121 KGxvi

South Park did it.

southpark.cc.com

There’s nothing new under the sun

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:04:28pm
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dangerman  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:07:35pm

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

video
“This was a meeting where a letter was given to me by Kim Jong-Un, and that letter was a very nice letter. Oh, would you like to see what was in that letter? I haven’t seen the letter yet. I purposely haven’t opened it… I haven’t opened it
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“I don’t have a fucking clue where I am or what I’m doing”

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dangerman  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:10:27pm

re: #150 mmmirele

Returned from the PA’s…nothing outwardly wrong with my ear but they did get me scheduled for a colonoscopy consult in 10 days. (I’ve been putting it off.) And I’m 8 pounds lighter than I was in January.

I wouldn’t think that would be the next logical test
But i am not a doctor

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:11:02pm

re: #135 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Holy crap. I read some random paragraphs, switching through sections, and the third or fourth on was a reference to “saint elliot”, the incel who killed 7 and wounded 14 people in Isla Vista. Virginia, you got a winner in this dude.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:11:14pm

re: #156 Hecuba’s daughter

It is a well-established scientific principle that every accusation that Trump levels against Democrats is actually some nefarious activity he’s engaged in. So — for years he claimed that unemployment was much higher than the official reports and the jobs reports were suspicious: my question — is it possible that the statistics this morning are manipulated figures that are, in fact, not true?

Remember, in 2016, Trump said,

“We have 93 million people out of work. They look for jobs, they give up, and all of a sudden, statistically, they’re considered employed.”

He used that number to say that the REAL unemployment rate should be 42% - combining the % Not In Labor Force with U3 unemployment.

That number was the “Not In Labor Force” number, everyone over 16, not in jail and not either employed or looking for a job (primarily students, housewives, and retirees).

That number is now almost 96 million, and what he said should be considered the REAL unemployment rate is about 41% - barely changed from 2016.

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dangerman  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:15:34pm

re: #165 goddamnedfrank

Frankly the argument that pardons shouldn’t be given to people who are clearly guilty is a weak one since the Burdick decision makes the acceptance of a pardon an implicit admission of guilt.

A better argument is that pardons are supposed to be an act of grace by the executive that somehow benefits and heals society. For instance George Washington gave the first two pardons to John Mitchell and Phillip Weigel, convicted of treason, because he didn’t want to see them hanged and become martyrs which might have led to further riots and destabilization. There was no question that the two men were guilty and the pardons weren’t given to benefit the men or the anti Whiskey tax political faction they represented but were instead given to show that the federal government was merciful and just, strong but not tyrannical.

The real problem with Arpaio, D’Souza and Libby’s pardons is that they were implicitly carried out in the furtherance of a political gambit by the President to undermine the government’s authority in ongoing law enforcement proceedings that he believes threaten him personally. The entire goal of these pardons is to test the waters for more explicit acts of obstruction of justice.

“The original idea was to give the president the power to right wrongs when the justice system failed. For example, if evidence later surfaced proving that an innocent person had been imprisoned, the president could free that person. It was never intended to let a supporter of your party off the hook after having pleaded guilty to a political crime”..electoral-vote.com yesterday

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:16:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:18:04pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:18:39pm
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Skip Intro  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:18:57pm

re: #168 Patricia Kayden

That’s not completely accurate. Because the jury found that Hill was 99% responsible for getting killed, they’ll each receive a penny each.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:20:18pm

re: #173 dangerman

“The original idea was to give the president the power to right wrongs when the justice system failed. For example, if evidence later surfaced proving that an innocent person had been imprisoned, the president could free that person. It was never intended to let a supporter of your party off the hook after having pleaded guilty to a political crime”..electoral-vote.com yesterday

Like a lot of other powers, it presumed that we’d either elect a grownup to the office, or elect responsible legislators to balance him. If you fail in either, you’ll probably be okay. If you fail in both, you’re…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:20:59pm

re: #176 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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It was a gesture, alright.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:22:38pm

re: #171 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Holy crap. I read some random paragraphs, switching through sections, and the third or fourth on was a reference to “saint elliot”, the incel who killed 7 and wounded 14 people in Isla Vista. Virginia, you got a winner in this dude.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:24:52pm

re: #174 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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North Korea has talked the master negotiator into paying for their 5 star accommodations?

Genius.

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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:28:26pm
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jaunte  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:30:34pm
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TedStriker  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:34:55pm

re: #177 Skip Intro

That’s not completely accurate. Because the jury found that Hill was 99% responsible for getting killed, they’ll each receive a penny each.

That’s not all: if I read that story right, the family isn’t even getting 4 cents out of this, because the judge set aside the “award”.

It’s fucking bullshit, from top to bottom.

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wrenchwench  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:38:39pm

Michelle Lujan Grisham got my vote for Dem nominee for governor today.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:38:47pm

re: #173 dangerman

“The original idea was to give the president the power to right wrongs when the justice system failed. For example, if evidence later surfaced proving that an innocent person had been imprisoned, the president could free that person. It was never intended to let a supporter of your party off the hook after having pleaded guilty to a political crime”..electoral-vote.com yesterday

The larger point I’m making is that pleading guilty is irrelevant to the impropriety here. Neither Arpaio nor Libby pled guilty and their pardons are just as offensive. Libby’s is possibly the worst since it was entirely done to undermine the idea that obstruction of justice, perjury and lying to the FBI should be a punishable offense, at least when politically connected Republicans do it in furtherance of *eagle-scream freedom-boner* . That pardon in particular was aimed at sending a message to Flynn and the conspiracy theorists who want his entire prosecution, guilty plea and testimony reversed. D’Souza’s pardon similarly was intended to send a message to Cohen that if he holds out there might be a pardon waiting for him sometime after the end of the Mueller probe. Arpaio’s pardon sent a message to every local official and agency head that court orders (especially regarding actions against immigrants) can be taken with a grain of salt.

Every single one of these pardons has been signed with an overt goal of undermining the perceived legitimacy of the Courts and the FBI while sending a message to Trump’s allies and would be enablers that down the line he’ll have their back if they break the law on his behalf. In the mind of his followers “justice” is becoming a plastic concept that molds itself into the shape of whatever comports with Trump’s expedient desires.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:41:37pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:43:47pm

re: #113 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

And pro-gay rights.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:44:51pm

:D

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:45:39pm

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Wrath of Rex

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:47:22pm

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is like when Megatron teamed up with Optimus Prime.

Megatron and Optimus Prime team up

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wrenchwench  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:47:47pm
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Skip Intro  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:50:46pm

re: #184 TedStriker

They’ll end up being billed for the bullets.

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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:58:15pm
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sagehen  Jun 1, 2018 • 4:59:53pm

re: #165 goddamnedfrank

A better argument is that pardons are supposed to be an act of grace by the executive that somehow benefits and heals society. For instance ….

Like when Jimmy Carter pardoned several hundred thousand draft dodgers.

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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:01:31pm
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:06:05pm

Wondering if this order from the judge in CCJ’s case had anything to do with the hasty settlement?

ORDER

CAME ON TO BE CONSIDERED Plaintiffs’ Motion for Issuance of Second

Summonses for Unserved Defendants in the above referenced matter, and the Court

is of the opinion that said motion should be in all things granted.

IT IS, THEREFORE, ORDERED that Plaintiffs’ Motion for Issuance of

Second Summonses for Unserved Defendants is GRANTED.

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freetoken  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:08:35pm
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:09:19pm

Check out all the co-Defendants listed here. They’re all going to be getting some presents from process servers right about now.

So. Reading possible motivations for CCJ’s quick exit from the suit - after the order that everyone else be served came through, at that point, CCJ was no longer going to be able to postpone discovery.

Discovery is where the legal bills start really piling up. However: by settling this way, CCJ is basically throwing everyone else named in the suit under the bus. Nehlen et al., are going to be served now, they’re going to be on the hook, and they’re not going to be able to rely on CCJ to stand up for them.

It’s a real cowardly, backstabby move.

I.E.: totally in keeping with what we know of CCJ’s character

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MsJ  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:13:23pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:16:14pm
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MsJ  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:16:34pm
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dangerman  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:17:47pm

re: #181 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

North Korea has talked the master negotiator into paying for their 5 star accommodations?

Genius.

Kim read “art of the deal”
Trump prob never has

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freetoken  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:18:40pm

I have no idea why Melania has gone dark.

I also don’t know if there is any big significance to it.

However, if this goes on a few more days, the questions are going to start to pile up.

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dangerman  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:19:11pm

re: #184 TedStriker

That’s not all: if I read that story right, the family isn’t even getting 4 cents out of this, because the judge set aside the “award”.

It’s fucking bullshit, from top to bottom.

I’ll say it
Fucking florida

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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:20:13pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:21:08pm

re: #200 MsJ

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Hey, I already pitched my idea for the opening sequence to explain Roseanne’s absence….

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:23:27pm

re: #204 freetoken

I have no idea why Melania has gone dark.

I also don’t know if there is any big significance to it.

However, if this goes on a few more days, the questions are going to start to pile up.

The entire criminal Trump gang went to Camp David, even the hated kid Tiffany, Melania was no where to be found. Family pow-wow to break the news and how what to do next?

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dangerman  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:24:19pm

re: #186 goddamnedfrank

The larger point I’m making is that pleading guilty is irrelevant to the impropriety here. Neither Arpaio nor Libby pled guilty and their pardons are just as offensive. Libby’s is possibly the worst since it was entirely done to undermine the idea that obstruction of justice, perjury and lying to the FBI should be a punishable offense, at least when politically connected Republicans do it in furtherance of *eagle-scream freedom-boner* . That pardon in particular was aimed at sending a message to Flynn and the conspiracy theorists who want his entire prosecution, guilty plea and testimony reversed. D’Souza’s pardon similarly was intended to send a message to Cohen that if he holds out there might be a pardon waiting for him sometime after the end of the Mueller probe. Arpaio’s pardon sent a message to every local official and agency head that court orders (especially regarding actions against immigrants) can be taken with a grain of salt.

Every single one of these pardons has been signed with an overt goal of undermining the perceived legitimacy of the Courts and the FBI while sending a message to Trump’s allies and would be enablers that down the line he’ll have their back if they break the law on his behalf. In the mind of his followers “justice” is becoming a plastic concept that molds itself into the shape of whatever comports with Trump’s expedient desires.

100%

The rest of the e-v quote:

Nor was it intended as a means of rallying political support (it’s not a coincidence that Trump pardons people one at a time, and makes a big show of doing it). The President suggested that his next beneficiaries might be Rod Blagojevich and Martha Stewart, both of whom just happen to be former “The Apprentice” contestants.

With the D’Souza pardon (and the others that may come down the pike), Trump is (once again) saying that the rule of law doesn’t apply to his friends and supporters. There is also the not-so-subtle message to people like former campaign manager Paul Manafort and former fixer Michael Cohen that a pardon awaits those who are loyal to him

.

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Skip Intro  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:25:46pm

re: #202 MsJ

I still think he got mad and beat the crap out of her. I wonder if the the Secret Service would have shot her if she fought back?

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freetoken  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:27:50pm

Forgotten American history:

Once upon a time, the various wives of the senior executives of the US government caused a crisis and greatly affected American affairs:

Petticoat affair

So one of Trump’s heroes, Andrew Jackson, actually replaced cabinet members because they dissed the wife of one of his confidents.

Just a warning: whatever is up with Trump, don’t put it past him to pull something big.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:31:19pm

re: #211 freetoken

Forgotten American history:

Once upon a time, the various wives of the senior executives of the US government caused a crisis and greatly affected American affairs:

Petticoat affair

So one of Trump’s heroes, Andrew Jackson, actually replaced cabinet members because they dissed the wife of one of his confidents.

Just a warning: whatever is up with Trump, don’t put it past him to pull something big.

I don’t put it past him to pull something big. I put it past him to pull something smart.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:32:07pm

re: #208 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

The entire criminal Trump gang went to Camp David, even the hated kid Tiffany, Melania was no where to be found. Family pow-wow to break the news and how what to do next?

Whoever he grabs and kisses on the forehead, they’re fucked.

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jaunte  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:32:24pm
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Skip Intro  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:34:07pm

re: #212 Blind Frog Belly White

Trump is laying out the order of succession after he siezes power.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:34:23pm

re: #214 jaunte

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How many American flags does Trump need in that office?

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Stanley Sea  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:35:22pm

re: #204 freetoken

I have no idea why Melania has gone dark.

I also don’t know if there is any big significance to it.

However, if this goes on a few more days, the questions are going to start to pile up.

Unintended fish lips. Prob extreme.

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jaunte  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:36:10pm

re: #216 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

He forgets where he is every 30º.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:36:32pm

re: #214 jaunte

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Ronan, if you think THIS is bad, just wait for Singapore. Kim Jong Un will get his picture taken on equal footing with the President of the United States, he’ll keep his nukes and his power, and Trump will pay his hotel bill, complete with lots of room service and the pay-per-view porn on the TV.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:38:16pm

re: #219 Blind Frog Belly White

Ronan, if you think THIS is bad, just wait for Singapore. Kim Jong Un will get his picture taken on equal footing with the President of the United States, he’ll keep his nukes and his power, and Trump will pay his hotel bill, complete with lots of room service and the pay-per-view porn on the TV.

Trump is screwing our long time allies while he is slobbering over despots and letting the US taxpayers pick up their bar tab.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:38:49pm

re: #218 jaunte

He forgets where he is every 30º.

Wonder if they removed the 2nd POTUS flag after Pete Souza brought it up.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:39:28pm

re: #195 sagehen

Like when Jimmy Carter pardoned several hundred thousand draft dodgers.

Yes, great example and probably the bravest pardon in modern history.

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Renaissance_Man  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:40:05pm

re: #210 Skip Intro

I still think he got mad and beat the crap out of her. I wonder if the the Secret Service would have shot her if she fought back?

I remain on record as of the opinion that her recovery time is within the bounds of normal for what she had and there’s nothing nefarious here.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:42:01pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:43:02pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:43:06pm

Interesting column:

Trump’s Power Isn’t Fear. It’s Fatigue.
Nobody is scared of getting their ass kicked by Donald Trump. But that doesn’t mean he can’t exhaust them into submission.

He puts the ‘Dope’ in ‘Rope-A-Dope.

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dangerman  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:43:41pm

re: #205 dangerman

I’ll say it
Fucking florida

I wanted to say north florida as I usually do
but it’s st Lucie county
Not north enough

I used to own a business in Port St Lucie, so sigh……..

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:45:37pm

re: #223 Renaissance_Man

I remain on record as of the opinion that her recovery time is within the bounds of normal for what she had and there’s nothing nefarious here.

Hope you’re right but if I were a dog I’d be barking at this, it stinks to high heaven.

Still not recovered enough to sit in a helicopter for a trip to Camp David but well enough for Donald to bail on his sick wife?

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dangerman  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:46:19pm

re: #210 Skip Intro

I still think he got mad and beat the crap out of her. I wonder if the the Secret Service would have shot her if she fought back?

Question we never used to have to consider

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:48:23pm

Melania is in the witness relocation program talking to Mueller right now….

//

Be best.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:49:08pm

re: #224 Dave In Austin

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I see shit like that and I can’t figure out if they’re really THAT stupid, or are they really THAT corrupt?

I mean, honestly, if there is a god and he/she/it really put Trump in the White House, then either it’s God The Colossal Jokester* putting one over on us, or it’s a god completely unworthy of praise.

*God the Colossal Jokester is my term for the idea that God created a 15 billion year old Universe, with a 4 Billion year old Earth, 6000 years ago.

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Skip Intro  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:49:14pm

re: #224 Dave In Austin

Now that’s a person who needs to be checked out before being allowed to own a gun.

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dangerman  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:49:45pm

re: #220 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

Trump is screwing our long time allies while he is slobbering over despots and letting the US taxpayers pick up their bar tab.

And Congress is absentee

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:50:19pm

re: #229 dangerman

Question we never used to have to consider

“Hey, I’m just asking questions!” and, “Is it irresponsible to speculate? It’s irresponsible NOT to speculate.”

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:50:57pm

re: #233 dangerman

And Congress is absentee

lol, it’s Obama’s fault somehow…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:51:27pm

re: #233 dangerman

And Congress is absentee

They’re riding the “Tax Cuts and Federalist Society Judges” gravy train as far as they can.

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Interesting Times  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:51:46pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jun 1, 2018 • 5:59:28pm
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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:01:16pm

re: #238 goddamnedfrank

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Dave In Austin  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:01:55pm
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stpaulbear  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:02:22pm

re: #204 freetoken

I have no idea why Melania has gone dark.

I also don’t know if there is any big significance to it.

However, if this goes on a few more days, the questions are going to start to pile up.

I’m starting to believe that he hit her.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:08:21pm

re: #241 stpaulbear

I’m starting to believe that he hit her.

Thing is, I don’t think he could have beaten up Stephen Hawking. He’d have one of his bully-boys start on her, maybe she turned to run, got a hard blow in one kidney—which can be a serious matter. Now the family is meeting to see what they can offer her to keep quiet, or whether they can get away with having her whacked….

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ipsos  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:09:16pm

re: #241 stpaulbear

I’m starting to believe that he hit her.

There are so very many legitimate, factual, documented reasons to hate what Trump is actually doing… I’m not wild about the (as yet baseless) speculation about Melania.

Just saying.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:10:47pm

re: #224 Dave In Austin

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This Trump messiah stuff has gotten to be quite a thing among evanglical grifters:

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:12:22pm

re: #243 ipsos

There are so very many legitimate, factual, documented reasons to hate what Trump is actually doing… I’m not wild about the (as yet baseless) speculation about Melania.

Just saying.

It’s a waste of time and energy. Also, not a very likely scenario. More likely she’s had enough of his shit. The rest of the family is getting together at Camp David so it looks like a real family.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:12:52pm

re: #244 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

This Trump messiah stuff has gotten to be quite a thing among evanglical grifters:

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Illuminatic

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stpaulbear  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:13:44pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

JEEBUS!

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This was one of the stories below that story:

HOUSTON — President Donald Trump spent more than an hour privately Thursday with some of those impacted by a Texas mass school shooting that killed 10 and wounded more than a dozen on May 18. But at least one of the victim’s parents came away unimpressed.

Rhonda Hart, whose 14-year-old daughter, Kimberly Vaughan, was killed at the school, told The Associated Press that Mr. Trump repeatedly used the word “wacky” to describe the shooter and the trench coat he wore. She said she told Mr. Trump, “Maybe if everyone had access to mental health care, we wouldn’t be in the situation.”

Hart, an Army veteran, said she also suggested employing veterans as sentinels in schools. She said Mr. Trump responded, “And arm them?” She replied, “No,” but said Mr. Trump “kept mentioning” arming classroom teachers. “It was like talking to a toddler,” Hart said.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:15:10pm
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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:16:08pm

re: #243 ipsos

There are so very many legitimate, factual, documented reasons to hate what Trump is actually doing… I’m not wild about the (as yet baseless) speculation about Melania.

Just saying.

3 weeks without reliable news about where the First Lady of the United States is is worth mentioning imho. Imagine, if you will, if it were RBG or HRC.

Something stinks.

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Interesting Times  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:20:03pm

re: #242 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Thing is, I don’t think he could have beaten up Stephen Hawking.

When he was younger, though:

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:20:18pm

re: #249 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

3 weeks without reliable news about where the First Lady of the United States is is worth mentioning imho. Imagine, if you will, if it were RBG or HRC.

Something stinks.

Perhaps Melanie is just a touch passive aggressive and enjoys torturing her husband. Perhaps she is seeking more money to keep her mouth shut and go away quietly.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:21:50pm

re: #251 I Would Prefer Not To

Perhaps Melanie is just a touch passive aggressive and enjoys torturing her husband. Perhaps she is seeking more money to keep her mouth shut and go away quietly.

It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

//

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A Mom Anon  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:22:25pm

re: #249 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

I honestly hope she’s somewhere safe with Barron and recovering from whatever the hell is happening. Maybe she just had enough of his disgusting face and said fuck it. The kid’s out of school and I’m sure there are any number of places she could lay low. But sooner or later there has to be more than some bullshit Twitter responses. This whole thing is just weird and at the very least being handled clumsily.

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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:22:29pm

re: #243 ipsos

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blueraven  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:22:35pm

re: #147 Blind Frog Belly White

The latest Joy Reid kerfuffle strikes me as ridiculous.

Now that McCain’s dying of Glioblastoma, they drag up some 11 year old post made in response to McCain telling a rally at a gun company that if he were younger he’d shoot Osama bin Laden with one of their guns. And she posted a picture of his head ‘shopped onto a guy holding two guns, which I guess turned out to be the Virginia Tech shooter.

“How can you be so disrespectful to an American Hero dying a horrible death?”

Well, at the time, he was a guy running for President, saying stupid swaggering horseshit.

“How dare you accuse an American Hero dying a horrible death of saying stupid swaggering horseshit?”

(rolls eyes)

It’s a bit more complicated than that.

more old posts have been unearthed, including ones that: promote an Alex Jones-produced video alleging 9/11 was an inside job; feature a doctored photo of Sen. John McCain as the shooter in the 2007 Virginia Tech massacre; praise Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s proposal to relocate the “Zionist regime” from Israel to Europe; declare that she “loves” xenophobic TV host Lou Dobbs for his takedown of an “open borders advocate;” and claim that Mexican migrants come to the U.S. not for freedom but just “to send home money.”

Obviously she has changed but she should have done something like Charles did and get it all out at once.

A full Mea Culpa would have been best.
Now shit just keeps popping up and she has to apologize all over again. Hard to move on from that.

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dangerman  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:22:36pm

re: #249 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

3 weeks without reliable news about where the First Lady of the United States is is worth mentioning imho. Imagine, if you will, if it were RBG or HRC.

Something stinks.

Any first lady

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freetoken  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:23:49pm

re: #244 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Skip Intro  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:25:51pm

re: #249 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

3 weeks without reliable news about where the First Lady of the United States is is worth mentioning imho. Imagine, if you will, if it were RBG or HRC.

Something stinks.

Reagan was shot and within a couple of days there pics of him in the hospital.

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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:26:34pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:27:39pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:28:01pm

re: #258 Skip Intro

Reagan was shot and within a couple of days there pics of him in the hospital.

She and Barron are hiding out with the Obamas. They are both attorneys and working on getting her out of her pre-nup. /////

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:31:09pm

re: #261 Hecuba’s daughter

She and Barron are hiding out with the Obamas. They are both attorneys and working on getting her out of her pre-nup. /////

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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:32:41pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:33:17pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:33:39pm
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ipsos  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:33:59pm

To clarify:

Yes, I think it’s weird and newsworthy that she’s been out of public view for so long.

It’s the baseless speculation (“he was beating her! she’s getting a divorce!”) I could do without from our side.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:35:18pm

re: #224 Dave In Austin

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:36:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:37:40pm

re: #208 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

The entire criminal Trump gang went to Camp David, even the hated kid Tiffany, Melania was no where to be found. Family pow-wow to break the news and how what to do next?

is Eric being held in an undisclosed safe area just in case of disaster?

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freetoken  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:38:08pm

re: #268 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

The whole pretense that Trump-as-President is normal is absurd.

Everything about Trump is an outlier in the history of Presidents.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:39:32pm

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

is Eric being held in an undisclosed safe area just in case of disaster?

Eric is having an extended vacation with some of his father’s Russian buddies.

//

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Teukka  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:40:09pm

re: #231 Blind Frog Belly White

I see shit like that and I can’t figure out if they’re really THAT stupid, or are they really THAT corrupt?

I mean, honestly, if there is a god and he/she/it really put Trump in the White House, then either it’s God The Colossal Jokester* putting one over on us, or it’s a god completely unworthy of praise.

*God the Colossal Jokester is my term for the idea that God created a 15 billion year old Universe, with a 4 Billion year old Earth, 6000 years ago.

You know, there’s a song about that. Listen to the lyrics…
*whistles innocently as he runs for cover*

Depeche Mode - Blasphemous Rumours, 1988 Live HD

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:40:31pm

re: #267 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Born AGAIN every minute…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:41:20pm

re: #273 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Born AGAIN every minute…

I lol’d. Well done. You win an internet.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:43:10pm

JC Christian, asshole.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:43:23pm

re: #267 Joe Bacon 🌹

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That vehicle has Cali license plates. Why haven’t they been rounded up by the Hispano-gay ACORN militia and carted off to state FEMA camp yet?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:45:39pm

re: #273 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Born AGAIN every minute…

I will never forgive the Pulpit Pimps who turned my family into brainwashed Republicans who slobber over the ground Trump walks on!

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Charles Johnson  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:46:46pm
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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:53:28pm

re: #278 Charles Johnson

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Has rage furby threatened to sue you yet over this article?

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Stanley Sea  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:53:48pm

re: #276 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

That vehicle has Cali license plates. Why haven’t they been rounded up by the Hispano-gay ACORN militia and carted off to state FEMA camp yet?

Fresno, probs.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:54:54pm

re: #279 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

Has rage furby threatened to sue you yet over this article?

No, but his lawsuit calendar is pretty full right now.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:56:02pm

re: #280 Stanley Sea

Fresno, probs.

Or El Centro.

Fuck, somewhere hot inland.

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Skip Intro  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:56:07pm

re: #280 Stanley Sea

Fresno, probs.

Or Bakersfield, El Dorado, Nevada, or Placer Counties.

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stpaulbear  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:56:37pm

re: #276 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

That vehicle has Cali license plates. Why haven’t they been rounded up by the Hispano-gay ACORN militia and carted off to state FEMA camp yet?

I’d wonder how they haven’t had their windows smashed, but a car tarted up like that probably has a half dozen dash cameras pointed out every window so that they can catch any criminals within 10 feet of the vehicle red-handed. It screams paranoia.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:57:31pm

re: #276 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

That vehicle has Cali license plates. Why haven’t they been rounded up by the Hispano-gay ACORN militia and carted off to state FEMA camp yet?

That it’s a Honda is a nice touch….

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freetoken  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:58:21pm

For those not keeping up with the innards of America’s largest Protestant denomination, the SBC, the firing of Paige Patterson has become a shitstorm.

After he was given the golden parachute, the seminary’s executive committee a few days later stripped him of everything when new information was presented to them.

And now the Patterson defenders, who from my quick looks at their Twitter profiles tend to be Trumpers (of course), are screaming about the liberals trying to railroad Patterson.

One issue that came to light is that a box of letters were missing from the archives of the previous institution of which Patterson headed up.

Then yesterday, a wife of one of Patterson’ former deputies published a long blog entry defending Patterson, trying to discredit the women complaining about Patterson. This same wife included images of letters whose provenance is unclear but may be part of the box of material stolen from the other school’s archives.

So today the SWBTS and the SBC had to come out and condemn this so-called defense of Patterson and the publishing of private letters.

And still the Patterson defenders are flocking to this egregious act as if somehow the posting exonerates Patterson.

It’s a real shitshow and it couldn’t have happened to a more appropriate group of people.

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dangerman  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:58:40pm

re: #268 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

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Whileminteresting and provocative this is a bit besides the point
Screw their personal relationship and screw her medical condition whatever it may or may not be

We have a right and the need to know if it’s a national security issue

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 1, 2018 • 6:59:28pm

re: #276 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

That vehicle has Cali license plates. Why haven’t they been rounded up by the Hispano-gay ACORN militia and carted off to state FEMA camp yet?

Do we know that is a real car or just a fake photoshop.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:00:23pm

re: #288 Hecuba’s daughter

Do we know that is a real car or just a fake photoshop.

It’s depressing, to me, that you have to even ask that. No one should ever be forced to take that sort of sentiment seriously.

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Skip Intro  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:03:17pm

re: #288 Hecuba’s daughter

Do we know that is a real car or just a fake photoshop.

I’ve seen crazier cars than that around here.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:04:16pm

re: #156 Hecuba’s daughter

It is a well-established scientific principle that every accusation that Trump levels against Democrats is actually some nefarious activity he’s engaged in. So — for years he claimed that unemployment was much higher than the official reports and the jobs reports were suspicious: my question — is it possible that the statistics this morning are manipulated figures that are, in fact, not true?

No, I am still confident that the honorable civil servants at the BLS aren’t cooking the books. Besides, if Trump demanded a revision, he would tell them to claim he created a half million jobs, not a totally credible and pedestrian 223k.

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jaunte  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:04:43pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:06:49pm

re: #292 jaunte

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The world’s biggest emperor… with no clothes.

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jaunte  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:08:28pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:09:38pm

re: #290 Skip Intro

I’ve seen crazier cars than that around here.

My embarrassment — it does say meme in lower right — but forgive my aging eyes…

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JordanRules  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:10:14pm
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freetoken  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:10:34pm

One thing, long known but ignored too often, that this Paige Patterson scandal brings to light is that for fundamentalist Christians and especially for their colleges and seminaries, the important thing is to follow the leader.

Leaders who are all men, of course.

In practice, for all the claims that Catholics (papists) commit idolatry by worshipping the Pope, it is Protestant fundamentalists who get herded into cattle calls that make them bow to the will of their denominations’ leaders.

I realize more liberal churches are less likely to end that way, but it is true of the Southern Baptists and many other groups.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:10:34pm

re: #292 jaunte

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The thing is, from their point of view, tRump is a perfectly normal Capitalist head of state. He actually is everything they’ve always said we are.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:12:12pm

re: #294 jaunte

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There is no telling what disgusting Hannity stuff got hoovered up in the Cohen document seizure

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BeachDem  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:12:57pm

re: #283 Skip Intro

Or Bakersfield, El Dorado, Nevada, or Placer Counties.

Redding?

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:12:59pm

re: #298 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The thing is, from their point of view, tRump is a perfectly normal Capitalist head of state. He actually is everything they’ve always said we are.

We have a President low enough to meet their highest expectations.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:13:50pm

re: #296 JordanRules

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When you’ve lost Neiman Marcus….

(That isn’t hyphenated any more?)

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:14:23pm

re: #168 Patricia Kayden

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Apparently the jury decided he was mostly at fault for being drunk in his home. First I heard that getting drunk is a capital offense.

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The Major  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:14:44pm

re: #299 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

There is no telling what disgusting Hannity stuff got hoovered up in the Cohen document seizure

Quite a bit of that has come out already…unless Cohen has the dirt on Hannity caught sleeping with the infamous dead woman or live boy scenario….

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Skip Intro  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:15:32pm

re: #296 JordanRules

That’s ok. Daddy gave her space to sell her crap in Dump Tower.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:16:59pm

re: #303 Big Beautiful Door

Apparently the jury decided he was mstly at fault for being drunk in his home. First I heard that getting drunk is a capital offense.

Being drunk while black is a capital offense. Well, then again, doing anything besides being an obedient slave while black is apparently a capital offense in Trump’s America.

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JordanRules  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:18:04pm

re: #304 The Major

Quite a bit of that has come out already…unless Cohen has the dirt on Hannity caught sleeping with the infamous dead woman or live boy scenario….

The feds are playing puzzlemaster and rebuilding shredded docs as we speak. No telling what may come next.

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freetoken  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:18:12pm

Shitstorms can have a silver lining:

As more dirty laundry is aired, perhaps more epiphanies will follow.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:18:17pm

Ooops:

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TedStriker  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:18:44pm

re: #241 stpaulbear

I’m starting to believe that he hit her.

To quote Spock, who was quoting one of his “ancestors”, when you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

Melania’s “unscheduled kidney surgery” and her subsequent prolonged absence from the public eye (her alleged tweets from the past few days proves nothing, other than someone in the WH thought, “oh shit, have her say something!”), well after she would have been released from the hospital, certainly fits those criteria.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:18:50pm

re: #303 Big Beautiful Door

Apparently the jury decided he was mstly at fault for being drunk in his home. First I heard that getting drunk is a capital offense.

Well, here, being drunk in your house with your car keys in your pocket—or actually accessible to you in any way—carries the same penalty as DUI. They call it “Being in Physical Control of a motor vehicle while under the influence of intoxicating liquor.” They haven’t gotten around to making it a death-penalty offense, but give them time.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:19:49pm

re: #309 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

Somebody is going to be in SERIOUS need of a new job come Monday.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:20:13pm

re: #309 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

Ooops:

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hahahahahaha, snort, hahahaha

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Stanley Sea  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:20:32pm

re: #303 Big Beautiful Door

Apparently the jury decided he was mostly at fault for being drunk in his home. First I heard that getting drunk is a capital offense.

Everyone is guilty of that. We just try to refrain from kid’s bday parties.

Another instance of black lives must adhere to higher standards.

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freetoken  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:21:11pm

For those who want the story:

Southern Baptist seminary drops bombshell: Why Paige Patterson was fired

Leaders of a Southern Baptist seminary dropped a bombshell Friday night about why they two days earlier fired their president, a longtime leader of the huge denomination: He lied about his treatment of an alleged rape victim, according to a new statement, and he tried to isolate another woman from the seminary’s chief of security so he could “break her down.”

[…]

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:21:43pm

re: #312 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Somebody is going to be in SERIOUS need of a new job come Monday.

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meteor  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:21:56pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:22:23pm

re: #314 Stanley Sea

Everyone is guilty of that. We just try to refrain from kid’s bday parties.

Another instance of black lives must adhere to higher standards.

Hell’s bells, the night Mrs. Fish got in her car accident, two police officers came into my house while I was drunk (indulging in a drunk gaming-night session while she was supposed to be out with friends for a birthday). No shots, no arrest, not even a stern talking-to, just a reminder that I was in no condition to drive anywhere and perhaps I needed a ride to the hospital. But, I’m a white male, so obviously I was safe.

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William Lewis  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:22:53pm

re: #272 Teukka

You know, there’s a song about that. Listen to the lyrics…
*whistles innocently as he runs for cover*

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Yes, I’ve quoted that one in church more than once. Kinda meant it recently when a good man of our parish died suddenly of a massive coronary at ~65 yo.

One of the other hymns in my prayer book is John Lennon’s Imagine.

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JordanRules  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:24:09pm

Trump is incarcerated.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:24:59pm

re: #320 JordanRules

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Trump is incarcerated.

Mrs. Fish would say, “I brought wine.” Substitute chocolate for wine in certain circumstances.

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jaunte  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:25:25pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:25:31pm

re: #320 JordanRules

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Trump is incarcerated.

Last election annulled.

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TedStriker  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:26:21pm

re: #320 JordanRules

Trump is incarcerated.

Democrats control Congress.
Democrats win presidency.

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William Lewis  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:26:29pm

re: #301 Unshaken Defiance

We have a President low enough to meet their highest expectations.

Trump is the kind of capitalist like whom Stalin said would happily sell him the rope to hang them.

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freetoken  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:26:52pm

For background:

Patterson led a purge of SWBTS, to cleanse it of the liberals, in his view. (Mohler would do the same at the sister institution up in Kentucky.)

Part of that purge resulted in the ascent of complementarianism views of women. Not just as an abstract concept, but in implementing academics.

Concurrent with this was a cult that formed around Patterson, so his guys were in leadership.

The seminary even made a stained glass window of him and his wife (really.)

This is the America that elected Trump.

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JordanRules  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:27:05pm

re: #323 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Last election annulled.

That’s pretty damn perfect.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:27:12pm

re: #320 JordanRules

Obama is President.

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TedStriker  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:27:37pm

re: #322 jaunte

Surprising absolutely no one who’s been paying attention and has functioning brain cells.

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JordanRules  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:27:48pm

re: #328 Ace Rothstein

Obama is President.

Sniff, sniff…
*wipes tears*

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:29:33pm

re: #320 JordanRules

Gorsuch resigned today.

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dangerman  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:29:38pm

re: #310 TedStriker

To quote Spock, who was quoting one of his “ancestors”, when you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

Melania’s “unscheduled kidney surgery” and her subsequent prolonged absence from the public eye (her alleged tweets from the past few days proves nothing, other than someone in the WH thought, “oh shit, have her say something!”), well after she would have been released from the hospital, certainly fits those criteria.

Conan Doyle

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:29:39pm

re: #319 William Lewis

As I recall we share a liking for Halestorm.

Iframe

The wife and I have this all cranked up

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:30:24pm

re: #332 dangerman

Conan Doyle

Spock even admitted that he was quoting the fictional detective, did he not?

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Stanley Sea  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:30:29pm

re: #320 JordanRules

Stroke, aware, incapacitated

Sorry, brutally honest

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TedStriker  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:31:19pm

re: #332 dangerman

Conan Doyle

re: #334 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Spock even admitted that he was quoting the fictional detective, did he not?

That’s the joke.

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De Kolta Chair  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:32:54pm

re: #309 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

Ooops:

It’s quite obvious that somebody at BWW really, really looks up to Tommy.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:33:04pm

re: #223 Renaissance_Man

I remain on record as of the opinion that her recovery time is within the bounds of normal for what she had and there’s nothing nefarious here.

Yeah, but remember the rampant speculation the Right engaged in when Hillary got a bit sick in public?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:33:07pm

re: #320 JordanRules

Tell me 3 words better than I love you.

Trump is incarcerated.

Free government cheese

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TedStriker  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:33:10pm

re: #335 Stanley Sea

Stroke, aware, incapacitated

Sorry, brutally honest

“25th Amendment invoked”

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fern01  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:33:10pm

re: #320 JordanRules

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Trump is incarcerated.

It is impossible to comprehend what he is doing to the US and the world. All I can determine is he wants to be Emperor, remove elections and be the King. The only world leaders he talks with are those who have permanent appointments - Russia, NK and China.

He is ending what we knew of democracy & the weasels in government are smiling away their own future. Horrified is not the half of it.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:33:31pm

re: #310 TedStriker

To quote Spock, who was quoting one of his “ancestors”, when you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

Yes, until more than one thing is other than impossible. The rule about a proportion between the weight of the charge and the weight of the evidence prevails.

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William Lewis  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:34:05pm

re: #333 Unshaken Defiance

As I recall we share a liking for Halestorm.

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The wife and I have this all cranked up

I sent you a link to this the other day. You didn’t get the private message?

THAT said, its a barn burner like Love Bites. I liked the material on the last two albums but if they split the difference on this one, well, it won’t break my heart. My speakers, maybe… ;D

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Charles Johnson  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:35:01pm
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Amory Blaine  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:35:20pm

Chocolate rations have been increased from 30 grams to 25 grams. Double plus good.

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dangerman  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:35:36pm

re: #334 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Spock even admitted that he was quoting the fictional detective, did he not?

I couldn’t say…..

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:37:07pm
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Stanley Sea  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:37:16pm

Dog, the stories I should write about this hotel’s long term occupants. Me included.

At least I bought the desk staff & housekeeping (angels) staff cupcakes.

Keeping karma clean.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:37:21pm

re: #343 William Lewis

I completely missed it. And that’s surely my bad.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:37:43pm

re: #344 Charles Johnson

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freetoken  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:39:21pm

re: #344 Charles Johnson

I know I’ve grown way too many plants when the first thing that struck me when viewing that image is that the tulip has the wrong number of perianth elements.

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Belafon  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:40:02pm

re: #341 fern01

It is impossible to comprehend what he is doing to the US and the world. All I can determine is he wants to be Emperor, remove elections and be the King. The only world leaders he talks with are those who have permanent appointments - Russia, NK and China.

He is ending what we knew of democracy & the weasels in government are smiling away their own future. Horrified is not the half of it.

He can only end it if we give in.

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Amory Blaine  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:40:02pm

I rewarded some new trainees today with donuts, much to my surprise it was national donut day!

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JordanRules  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:40:13pm

re: #348 Stanley Sea

Dog, the stories I should write about this hotel’s long term occupants. Me included.

At least I bought the desk staff & housekeeping (angels) staff cupcakes.

Keeping karma clean.

You really should! I’ve always been fascinated by hotels and especially those with long term peeps.

Cupcakes!! Very nice gesture.

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William Lewis  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:42:28pm

re: #349 Unshaken Defiance

I completely missed it. And that’s surely my bad.

NP. I was just wondering if I’d misspelled your name in it or something. I just knew that if you hadn’t heard it yet you’d want to.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:43:17pm

re: #354 JordanRules

You really should! I’ve always been fascinated by hotels and especially those with long term peeps.

Cupcakes!! Very nice gesture.

Even better, it was Nothing Bundt Cakes.

To.die.for.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:43:46pm

re: #348 Stanley Sea

Dog, the stories I should write about this hotel’s long term occupants. Me included.

At least I bought the desk staff & housekeeping (angels) staff cupcakes.

Keeping karma clean.

I always make an effort to be kind to customer service reps, waiters/waitresses, delivery guys and gals, and housekeeping. Tip extra big. Don’t be a douchecanoe. Etc. God only knows how many assholes those folks have to put up with every single fucking day, I don’t want to be another one. Even if it is their fuckup, they’re usually doing their best.

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William Lewis  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:44:06pm

So, I was thinking evil thoughts earlier. About a possible tattoo.

Right upper arm. A fairly fancy cross with the Latin “bellator iustitia socialis” inscribed within :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:44:32pm

re: #351 freetoken

I know I’ve grown way too many plants when the first thing that struck me when viewing that image is that the tulip has the wrong number of perianth elements.

mouse obviously enjoyed a midnight snack…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:44:51pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:46:07pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:46:50pm

re: #360 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I have to disagree with them on one point. It was fucking hilarious while it lasted. Admittedly, it was at their expense so it may not be funny to them, but the rest of us were immensely enjoying ourselves.

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Amory Blaine  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:46:59pm

Aww. He’s a good boy.

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freetoken  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:47:03pm

re: #359 Backwoods_Sleuth

mouse obviously enjoyed a midnight snack…

But… there is one too many, either petal or sepal.

Tulips like many flowering plants can both have a great deal of genetic variability, and developmental issues.

There are varieties of tulips which are “double” so to speak, with many more petals and sepals than normal.

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jaunte  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:47:42pm

I hope enough Texans wake up in time to get rid of Cruz.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:48:26pm

re: #364 freetoken

But… there is one too many, either petal or sepal.

that is what the mouse wants you to believe…

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Amory Blaine  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:51:39pm

I had an amazon order from Germany delivered in three days. Impressive.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:54:35pm

re: #367 Amory Blaine

I had an amazon order from Germany delivered in three days. Impressive.

When Bezos’ New Glenn rocket is ready, they’ll send your orders on a ballistic trajectory.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:56:18pm

re: #367 Amory Blaine

I had an amazon order from Germany delivered in three days. Impressive.

In the meantime, the USPS suffered a “truck mechanical failure” and a package that was supposed to be delivered yesterday - due to a mis-delivery to the wrong USPS facility - is now slated to be delivered to my house next week.

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Skip Intro  Jun 1, 2018 • 7:56:38pm

re: #331 Ace Rothstein

Gorsuch resigned today.

Trump replaces him with Tiffany.

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Amory Blaine  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:00:26pm

Nite all. Stay vigilant.

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Cheechako  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:02:29pm

Boy, would I like to be a fly on the wall at Camp David this weekend. The family dynamics and scheming is going to be very interesting.

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stpaulbear  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:03:52pm

Via WaPo

Glenn Snoddy, a Nashville studio engineer who built a pedal that enabled guitarists to create the snarling “fuzz tone,” unleashing sonic distortion possibilities that influenced generations of rock guitarists, died May 21 at his home in Murfreesboro, Tenn. He was 96.

The fuzz effect was first heard — by accident — on country singer Marty Robbins’s 1961 record “Don’t Worry.”

During the recording session, guitarist Grady Martin’s six-string bass guitar was being run through a console with a defective transformer. The distorted and almost flatulent sound initially annoyed Mr. Snoddy, and he requested a redo. Martin, producer Don Law and the other musicians convinced him that they had stumbled on something new.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:08:32pm

re: #373 stpaulbear

Via WaPo

Ah, distortion. As a sound engineer, it is forever a pain in my ass. It’s a great sound, but when you’re able to kick it on and off at will, it seriously fucks with the mix. I should get in the habit of maintaining different equalizer patches for guitars that run with and without distortion.

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William Lewis  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:12:24pm

re: #373 stpaulbear

Via WaPo

“Pay an homage to that daring 6BE6 vacuum tube which gave the ultimate sacrifice in that amplifier..that gave us the fuzz guitar and changed popular music forever.”

a comment on this song at Youtube.

Don’t Worry - Marty Robbins - 1961

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:16:12pm

re: #375 William Lewis

“Pay an homage to that daring 6BE6 vacuum tube which gave the ultimate sacrifice in that amplifier..that gave us the fuzz guitar and changed popular music forever.”

a comment on this song at Youtube.

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Vacuum tubes. How many hardware junkies these days even know what those are? I feel old, and I’m not even a child of the mainframe days (my first computer was an actual IBM-compatible PC).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:20:40pm

re: #376 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Vacuum tubes. How many hardware junkies these days even know what those are? I feel old, and I’m not even a child of the mainframe days (my first computer was an actual IBM-compatible PC).

I showed my 10 year old nephew an old CRT monitor of mine last weekend and he was like: “What the hell is that?”

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William Lewis  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:21:17pm

re: #376 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Vacuum tubes. How many hardware junkies these days even know what those are? I feel old, and I’m not even a child of the mainframe days (my first computer was an actual IBM-compatible PC).

Had that discussion the other day with a semi-pro musician who had just bought his first tube amp and an old engineer who is in our parish. It was a bit mind bending. The engineer couldn’t really quite understand why we 2 musicians loved the sound of pushing a tube beyond what it was spec’ed to handle. Overdrive!

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William Lewis  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:21:43pm

re: #377 Eclectic Cyborg

I showed my 10 year old nephew an old CRT monitor of mine last weekend and he was like: “What the hell is that?”

Let him watch it implode … :D

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:22:21pm

re: #377 Eclectic Cyborg

I showed my 10 year old nephew an old CRT monitor of mine last weekend and he was like: “What the hell is that?”

“Why, son, it’s a miniaturized particle accelerator contained in a plastic box.”

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:23:37pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:24:23pm

re: #378 William Lewis

Had that discussion the other day with a semi-pro musician who had just bought his first tube amp and an old engineer who is in our parish. It was a bit mind bending. The engineer couldn’t really quite understand why we 2 musicians loved the sound of pushing a tube beyond what it was spec’ed to handle. Overdrive!

One of my church guitarists uses a tube amp and puts it in our amp box for Sunday worship. He has by far the best guitar sound out of any of our semi-professional musicians that volunteer for our bands. I love advanced technology and all, but there’s a few cases where the classics really do rule, and a good tube amp is definitely one of them.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:28:45pm

re: #382 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Steel guitarist swear by them.

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William Lewis  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:33:34pm

re: #382 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

One of my church guitarists uses a tube amp and puts it in our amp box for Sunday worship. He has by far the best guitar sound out of any of our semi-professional musicians that volunteer for our bands. I love advanced technology and all, but there’s a few cases where the classics really do rule, and a good tube amp is definitely one of them.

Being good Episcopalians (heh) we rarely have any guitar (piano/organ, are you kidding? :) but Randy has done a couple of glorious bits over the years. He’s got a sweet little amp designed for acoustic guitar and it works quite well.

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teleskiguy  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:33:45pm

re: #135 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Jesus fucking Christ, that “manifesto” is a massive shmorgishborg of bad craziness. Wow. I think I need a shower.

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William Lewis  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:36:15pm

re: #134 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Amen.

This is just one of the reasons Captain America is my favorite superhero.

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jaunte  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:42:06pm
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MsJ  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:43:01pm

re: #296 JordanRules

She’s not a feckless cunt, she’s a lying, cheating, stealing, criminal, entitled cunt.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:46:37pm
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William Lewis  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:46:52pm

I mentioned this in passing earlier.

I do consider this a hymn, an evocation of the sacred. I find it easy to believe in god, not so much in heaven given the crap done in the hope of one or the fear of it’s opposite. This was, apparently, his last live performance.

I hope you all don’t mind me dropping this here tonight.

John Lennon - Imagine (Live)

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MsJ  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:47:49pm

re: #341 fern01

It is impossible to comprehend what he is doing to the US and the world. All I can determine is he wants to be Emperor, remove elections and be the King. The only world leaders he talks with are those who have permanent appointments - Russia, NK and China.

He is ending what we knew of democracy & the weasels in government are smiling away their own future. Horrified is not the half of it.

We are living in and watching a fundamental change in the world order. The West is in trouble.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:49:27pm

re: #384 William Lewis

Being good Episcopalians (heh) we rarely have any guitar (piano/organ, are you kidding? :) but Randy has done a couple of glorious bits over the years. He’s got a sweet little amp designed for acoustic guitar and it works quite well.

We’re one of those more modern churches. We have a full electric band, slick presentation, hip to technology, etc. My role these days is less of sound engineer and more of showrunner/producer; I keep the tech stack functional so that the service experience is as close to flawless as we can get with a motley crew of volunteers and church-salary staff.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:52:32pm

re: #390 William Lewis

I mentioned this in passing earlier.

I do consider this a hymn, an evocation of the sacred. I find it easy to believe in god, not so much in heaven given the crap done in the hope of one or the fear of it’s opposite. This was, apparently, his last live performance.

I hope you all don’t mind me dropping this here tonight.

[Embedded content]

“No, it says Imagine there’s no heaven.”

WKRP Censorship

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JordanRules  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:54:07pm

Well damn!!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:54:58pm

re: #394 JordanRules

Careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

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stpaulbear  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:55:55pm

re: #387 jaunte

The WaPo gave this a lot of coverage today. It was up front on their web site this morning.

I know I sound like a WaPo fanboy pretty often but, except fo a few bad missteps (and Marc Fucking Thiessen), they’ve been hitting it out of the park all year. It’s worth a subscription.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 1, 2018 • 8:57:23pm

re: #396 stpaulbear

The WaPo gave this a lot of coverage today. It was up front on their web site this morning.

I know I sound like a WaPo fanboy pretty often but, except fo a few bad missteps (and Marc Fucking Thiessen), they’ve been hitting it out of the park all year. It’s worth a subscription.

Fahrenthold. Working the yam $$$ is bound to hit paydirt.

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TedStriker  Jun 1, 2018 • 9:03:29pm

re: #393 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“No, it says Imagine there’s no heaven.”

[Embedded content]

Video

Damn, for all of its goofiness and zaniness, WKRP could really hit the social commentary ball out of the park, which was quite a few times during its run; as the straight man of the cast, Gordon Jump really made those moments work.

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MsJ  Jun 1, 2018 • 9:07:49pm

re: #394 JordanRules

Well damn!!

[Embedded content]

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sagehen  Jun 1, 2018 • 9:10:32pm

re: #310 TedStriker

To quote Spock, who was quoting one of his “ancestors”, when you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

Depending whether you’re a Doylist or Watsonian… that quote is from either Arthur Conan Doyle or Sherlock Holmes.

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William Lewis  Jun 1, 2018 • 9:12:40pm

re: #393 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

“No, it says Imagine there’s no heaven.”

[Embedded content]

Video

I had forgotten that episode. Thank you.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 1, 2018 • 9:12:44pm

re: #400 sagehen

Depending whether you’re a Doylist or Watsonian… that quote is from either Arthur Conan Doyle or Sherlock Holmes.

I think Holmes was real and Doyle was fictional. The man believed in fairies, for Pete’s sake!

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The Major  Jun 2, 2018 • 5:30:21am

re: #376 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Vacuum tubes. How many hardware junkies these days even know what those are?

(raises hand) I built an AM radio using a 3V4…And recently I had a hybrid amp which used 12AX7’s as its pre-amp stage and Philips Class D output driver.

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Chez Ko Pe  Jun 2, 2018 • 12:14:19pm

Didn’t Chuckles once promise to “turn the proceedings into a clown show” or something like that if he was forced into court?

I mean, ANYTHING involving CCJ is automatically a “clown show” by definition, but I’d love to see him answer a follow-up question.


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