Saturday Night Jam: Lake Street Dive - “Hang On”

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Live Performance of “Hang On” from Lake Street Dive’s new album Free Yourself Up - OUT NOW on Nonesuch Records

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JordanRules  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:45:29pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:46:22pm

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:47:06pm

glad these days are over MAGA!!!

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:48:38pm

re: #2 De Kolta Chair

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I’m afraid to ask what all is going on in that cartoon. Trump looks like Caligula.

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teleskiguy  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:49:15pm

If you haven’t voted in my poll yet, please do!

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:49:21pm

Over $80 to go from E to F on my truck this morning

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:50:25pm

Oh look at this crybaby

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teleskiguy  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:50:41pm

re: #6 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

A month ago it cost about $30 for my little Toyota. Today it’s closer to $40. One morning I saw the gas prices jump seven cents from the night before.

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JordanRules  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:52:11pm

WTF?!?!

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:52:12pm

re: #5 teleskiguy

If you haven’t voted in my poll yet, please do!

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Not a member of Twitter anymore so I can’t vote but I wanna vote for her being moved to an upstate farm where she can play the rest of her life with other discarded Trump wives.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:52:29pm

re: #5 teleskiguy

Why is this not a bigger story? First Ladies don’t just drop off the face of the fucking earth. This is weird. Something weird is going on.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:52:40pm

re: #6 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

Over $80 to go from E to F on my truck this morning

Yikes. I bought gas for my car yesterday; four gallons of ethyl cost me fifteen dollars. ($15 in the past would be a fill-up.)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:54:26pm

re: #7 The Vicious Babushka

Oh look at this crybaby

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Oh shut up you overgrown child whose sole job is going around crying about how hard it is being a conservative. Didn’t see you complaining when Limbaugh called Sandra Fluke a slut. By the way, I thought you freaks were anti-political correctness. I guess that goes out the window when the Princess is the subject of mockery. By the way dumbshit, all the great comedians are lefties, not too many great conservative comedians out there because you suck at comedy.

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JordanRules  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:55:02pm

Hello there!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:55:13pm

re: #11 Ace-o-aces

Why is this not a bigger story? First Ladies don’t just drop off the face of the fucking earth. This is weird. Something weird is going on.

It is very weird indeed. She just went under for surgery and we haven’t seen her since then. I don’t want to CT this but man this administration has a lot strange goings on.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:55:42pm

News of the Weird as I sign out for the night …

Nuclear Bunker, 200 Feet of Tunnels and a Fire Lead to a Murder Charge in Maryland (New York Times, more at the link):

A man in Maryland has been charged with murder after his secretive project to build an underground nuclear bunker ended with the death of a worker hired to dig the network of tunnels.

The man, Daniel L. Beckwitt, 27, “was concerned about the increase in international tensions, and in particular North Korea’s acquisition of long-range ballistic missiles, and he was in the process of building a secure location for himself,” said his lawyer, Robert C. Bonsib.

Mr. Beckwitt was indicted on Thursday on charges of involuntary manslaughter, which can be punished by up to 10 years’ imprisonment in Maryland, and second-degree murder, which can be punished by up to 30 years’ imprisonment. Mr. Bonsib said he expected Mr. Beckwitt to post his $100,000 bail by Monday, adding that he would contest the charges.

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De Kolta Chair  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:55:47pm

re: #3 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

glad these days are over MAGA!!!

I am so glad that my late father Jake, a Marine who took 40 years to get over three years in that nightmarish shit he always sarcastically called “the Korean Conflict,” didn’t live to see this asshole as president.

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teleskiguy  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:56:03pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:56:28pm

re: #7 The Vicious Babushka

I subscribed to Bee’s YouTube channel. Hope she keeps her show and stays sharp. We need all hands on deck to resist this regime.

As many have pointed out, Trump invited Nugent to the White House AFTER Nugent called Secretary Clinton a c*nt. Let’s keep it real.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:56:47pm

re: #8 teleskiguy

A month ago it cost about $30 for my little Toyota. Today it’s closer to $40. One morning I saw the gas prices jump seven cents from the night before.

2013 F150, I live 1.2 miles from my office in Ft. Worth and typically ride my bike so I don’t have to fill up rarely at all but had to make a couple of trips to Dallas last week.

I was shocked this morning when it just kept going and going and going.

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freetoken  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:57:50pm

re: #11 Ace-o-aces

Why is this not a bigger story? First Ladies don’t just drop off the face of the fucking earth. This is weird. Something weird is going on.

There are probably several reasons.

Some media probably feel like focusing on Melania might appear to be picking on her.

Also, there could be hush-hush rumors going around the pubs and diners of DC about what is really going on some may want to respect Melania’s privacy.

Others - just don’t care.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:57:55pm

re: #17 De Kolta Chair

I am so glad my late father, a Marine who took 40 years to get over three years in that nightmarish shit he always called “the Korean Conflict,” didn’t live to see this asshole as president.

My Dad’s Dad died right before Reagan became President and dismantled a lot of the work men had done like him ot make the government a fair arbitrator between labor and management. Dad has a memory of when Reagan primaried Ford. Dad’s Dad said he’d move to Canada if Reagan got elected. I don’t know how serious it was but I know he’d hate Trump not just for his policies for how he treats people. Not surprised then that all my cousins, aunts, and uncles who loved my grandfather aren’t Trump fans.

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whitebeach  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:58:41pm

re: #5 teleskiguy

If you haven’t voted in my poll yet, please do!

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Can’t vote because don’t tweet. Plus I don’t know how she went down. But my guess as to where is about ten miles east of Mar-a-Lago.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:58:49pm

re: #17 De Kolta Chair

I am so glad my late father Jake, a Marine who took 40 years to get over three years in that nightmarish shit he always called “the Korean Conflict,” didn’t live to see this asshole as president.

If your father had seen Donald’s bone spurs he’d understand….

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teleskiguy  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:59:07pm

re: #10 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

Pretty sure you don’t need a Twitter account to vote. The bigger the sample size, the better!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2018 • 8:59:16pm

re: #22 HappyWarrior

From the previous thread:

I got to know my father’s mother’s mother, the only great-grandparent I knew in person; I fear my children will envy that, since all of their great-grandparents passed years ago (my son was barely 2 years old when my last grandmother passed). My grandmothers lived on opposite sides of the same small American town, so there was no real contrast between them aside from age and lineage. We joked at my father’s mother’s funeral that my mother’s mother, who had passed some 10 years prior, was waiting in heaven and when my father’s mother finally arrived, she was sitting at a table with a jigsaw puzzle, asking, “What took you so damn long?”

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:00:10pm

Read the whole thread. It’s very good.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:00:34pm

re: #23 whitebeach

Can’t vote because don’t tweet. Plus I don’t know how she went down. But my guess as to where is about ten miles east of Mar-a-Lago.

She’s now besties with Natalee Holloway

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teleskiguy  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:01:07pm

re: #28 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

Sounds like y’all are all about the cement shoes.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:01:53pm

re: #26 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

From the previous thread:

I got to know my father’s mother’s mother, the only great-grandparent I knew in person; I fear my children will envy that, since all of their great-grandparents passed years ago (my son was barely 2 years old when my last grandmother passed). My grandmothers lived on opposite sides of the same small American town, so there was no real contrast between them aside from age and lineage. We joked at my father’s mother’s funeral that my mother’s mother, who had passed some 10 years prior, was waiting in heaven and when my father’s mother finally arrived, she was sitting at a table with a jigsaw puzzle, asking, “What took you so damn long?”

We always say that my Dad’s parents are having martinis whereever they are. It was sad when she left us but I did feel some peace for her since I believed and you know what to an extend still do despite my agnosticism united with those she had lost like her brother, parents, husband, and old friends. We mourned her loss for sure and I cried that day but I did feel she had found peace. I’d do anything to see and talk to her again though. A cousin’s wife shared with me a letter she wrote to her. Apparently she helped her out on researching her husband(My grandfather’s nephew)’s family and thus my own. I just wish she were still here so I could ask more question and man I wish she could meet my niece and my niece her.

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freetoken  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:03:50pm

The reality about the Trumps, all of them, is that everything is a show, a facade.

When faced with real work, real decisions, and real pressure, we see what happens - confusion, idiocy, hiding.

I suspect that Melania finally decided she needed a break.

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whitebeach  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:03:53pm

re: #29 teleskiguy

Sounds like y’all are all about the cement shoes.

Shark chum is also a possibility.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:04:23pm

re: #27 DodgerFan1988

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Read the whole thread. It’s very good.

Although I come from a liberal family, I grew up in a fairly moderate area. A lot of my close friends and their families were pretty conservative. Honestly, I think Miller’s just a dick who has never grown up. It’s got nothing to do with smug liberals. He was being a dick in high school when most of us don’t care about the difference between left and right.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:04:40pm

re: #16 Anymouse 🌹

News of the Weird as I sign out for the night …

Nuclear Bunker, 200 Feet of Tunnels and a Fire Lead to a Murder Charge in Maryland (New York Times, more at the link):

The man, Daniel L. Beckwitt, 27, “was concerned about the increase in international tensions, and in particular North Korea’s acquisition of long-range ballistic missiles, and he was in the process of building a secure location for himself,” said his lawyer, Robert C. Bonsib.

This is just fucking maddening. The zeal of the US government to imply that NK has actual, usable nuclear weapons and missiles that could reach the US (fucking Maryland, ferchrissakes?) even empty, and the news media parroting and hyperventilating over these ridiculous exaggerations, have now killed a man. And they’ll never stop, ‘cause it sells ads. Grrrrrr!!!!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:05:28pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

We always say that my Dad’s parents are having martinis whereever they are. It was sad when she left us but I did feel some peace for her since I believed and you know what to an extend still do despite my agnosticism united with those she had lost like her brother, parents, husband, and old friends. We mourned her loss for sure and I cried that day but I did feel she had found peace. I’d do anything to see and talk to her again though. A cousin’s wife shared with me a letter she wrote to her. Apparently she helped her out on researching her husband(My grandfather’s nephew)’s family and thus my own. I just wish she were still here so I could ask more question and man I wish she could meet my niece and my niece her.

Despite the tension between my dad’s family and my mom’s family, the grandmothers wound up getting along famously later in life. It was a family tradition that they would get together over Christmas at the family estate and put together a 1000-piece jigsaw puzzle. When my mom’s mother passed in 2006-2007, it was the beginning of the end for my dad’s mother, who had lost her jigsaw partner and one of her best friends. She had retired from city work in the same time frame, so when she discovered she had pancreatic cancer a few years later, the end was unfortunately brief.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:06:31pm

re: #26 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

From the previous thread:

I got to know my father’s mother’s mother, the only great-grandparent I knew in person; I fear my children will envy that, since all of their great-grandparents passed years ago (my son was barely 2 years old when my last grandmother passed). My grandmothers lived on opposite sides of the same small American town, so there was no real contrast between them aside from age and lineage. We joked at my father’s mother’s funeral that my mother’s mother, who had passed some 10 years prior, was waiting in heaven and when my father’s mother finally arrived, she was sitting at a table with a jigsaw puzzle, asking, “What took you so damn long?”

I knew my mother’s mother’s mother’s mother (great-great grandmother who died in 1978), my mother’s mother’s mother (who died in 1993), and my father’s mother’s mother (who died in 1984).

My son only met his my mother’s grandmother above as a baby and doesn’t remember her. He has no children.

My mother and I are now first and second-oldest in the family.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:06:40pm

re: #31 freetoken

The reality about the Trumps, all of them, is that everything is a show, a facade.

When faced with real work, real decisions, and real pressure, we see what happens - confusion, idiocy, hiding.

I suspect that Melania finally decided she needed a break.

That’s what I tried to get at when I posted about Ivanka. I think Ivanka is probably the most phony of all the Trumps. With Donald and the older boys, while they’re not honest at all abut politics and that stuff, they do make it pretty clear that they’re shitty people. Ivanka though. Why she smiles, she’s even attractive to look at, and to quote Michelle Wolf doesn’t look she farts in the elevator.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:07:27pm

re: #35 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My dad’s mom died 2 weeks shy of my daughter’s birth, and also never lived to see me uncover the family mystery around our lineage and history. I regret not following up before she died and being able to tell her the amazing story.

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MsJ  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:07:59pm

re: #27 DodgerFan1988

Miller grew up surrounded by self-righteous, hypocritical liberal orthodoxy in California; I had the same experience in Massachusetts. It *does* make you trollish, and to want to puncture the smug liberalism of people that you know are NIMBY liberals. I was that way as a teen. /2

Good?

No.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:08:37pm

re: #35 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Despite the tension between my dad’s family and my mom’s family, the grandmothers wound up getting along famously later in life. It was a family tradition that they would get together over Christmas at the family estate and put together a 1000-piece jigsaw puzzle. When my mom’s mother passed in 2006-2007, it was the beginning of the end for my dad’s mother, who had lost her jigsaw partner and one of her best friends. She had retired from city work in the same time frame, so when she discovered she had pancreatic cancer a few years later, the end was unfortunately brief.

Mom’s Mom and Dad’s Mom got along but I wouldn’t say they were friends. Just two totally different women as I got at downstairs. They did have some stuff in common of course besides my parents and brothers, they were and are both staunch Democrats, heavily influenced by the church they grew up in, loving to their children, and wiling to lend out a helping hand.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:10:03pm

re: #40 HappyWarrior

Mom’s Mom and Dad’s Mom got along but I wouldn’t say they were friends. Just two totally different women as I got at downstairs. They did have some stuff in common of course besides my parents and brothers, they were and are both staunch Democrats, heavily influenced by the church they grew up in, loving to their children, and wiling to lend out a helping hand.

My mom and dad told me that his family was not allowed to come to the wedding because they disapproved of her. My dad’s mom bitterly regretted that decision to the end, and she was so glad that she got to make friends with my mom’s mom and to get to know my mom and pass on the family recipes. My dad’s dad was a stubbornly proud man, and as much as I am honored to be a son of the family, that is the one thing I hold against him.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:10:13pm

re: #39 MsJ

Good?

No.

I’d love to know what liberal orthodoxy would make someone do the stuff I read Miller did as a high school student.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:10:38pm

re: #41 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My mom and dad told me that his family was not allowed to come to the wedding because they disapproved of her. My dad’s mom bitterly regretted that decision to the end, and she was so glad that she got to make friends with my mom’s mom and to get to know my mom and pass on the family recipes. My dad’s dad was a stubbornly proud man, and as much as I am honored to be a son of the family, that is the one thing I hold against him.

Damn I can’t imagine.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:12:02pm

re: #43 HappyWarrior

Damn I can’t imagine.

It heavily colored my parents’ decision to bless my union to Mrs. Fish. She’s not what you call traditional, as you might expect; but they refused to be like their parents, and as long as I was happy and sure that she would be right for me, they wanted to be there for me. In that moment, I have never been prouder to be their son.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:14:05pm

re: #44 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It heavily colored my parents’ decision to bless my union to Mrs. Fish. She’s not what you call traditional, as you might expect; but they refused to be like their parents, and as long as I was happy and sure that she would be right for me, they wanted to be there for me. In that moment, I have never been prouder to be their son.

What I’m most proud as a son is how my parents have shown a willingness to grow as people. Although my Dad is definitely liberal, he sometimes has an Archie Bunker moment or too but I think he really does embrace the changes that have happened to our country.

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JordanRules  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:14:08pm

re: #42 HappyWarrior

I’d love to know what liberal orthodoxy would make someone do the stuff I read Miller did as a high school student.

That’s exactly what I was thinking.
Shitting on the custodial staff in front of the whole school at an assembly or whatever? Nah, that doesn’t track to me.

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MsJ  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:15:14pm

re: #42 HappyWarrior

I’d love to know what liberal orthodoxy would make someone do the stuff I read Miller did as a high school student.

It’s horseshit. Nichols is blaming liberals for Miller (and he, himself) being an asshole.

Everything else he said beyond that is irrelevant. I stopped reading.

Own it, you fucking dickbag. You own trump because you created it with shit like that…for 20+ years of bullshit.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:17:04pm

re: #41 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

My mom and dad told me that his family was not allowed to come to the wedding because they disapproved of her. My dad’s mom bitterly regretted that decision to the end, and she was so glad that she got to make friends with my mom’s mom and to get to know my mom and pass on the family recipes. My dad’s dad was a stubbornly proud man, and as much as I am honored to be a son of the family, that is the one thing I hold against him.

I lost both in my parents when I was a young adult but we never talked about who either one was voting for, that was a personal matter.

Funny how things that once were hidden now become defining.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:17:43pm

And we have another example of MAGA bigotry as a TexAssHole makes a fool of himself.

dailykos.com

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whitebeach  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:18:10pm

re: #37 HappyWarrior

That’s what I tried to get at when I posted about Ivanka. I think Ivanka is probably the most phony of all the Trumps. With Donald and the older boys, while they’re not honest at all abut politics and that stuff, they do make it pretty clear that they’re shitty people. Ivanka though. Why she smiles, she’s even attractive to look at, and to quote Michelle Wolf doesn’t look she farts in the elevator.

She looks to me like she farts in the elevator and then says, “Oooh, smell that jasmine!”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:19:44pm

re: #48 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

I lost both in my parents when I was a young adult but we never talked about who either one was voting for, that was a personal matter.

Funny how things that once were hidden now become defining.

It all came out when I was dating my first girlfriend. My dad told me the whole story about how his mom wasn’t allowed to come to his wedding and she sent someone to represent the family in her stead, and how she regretted that decision up until the day my dad introduced her to my mom’s family and brought her into the fold (I don’t know when that happened, presumably before I was born). My dad was telling me all this so that I would feel comfortable choosing the right woman, even if he or my mom didn’t approve, because the same thing happened to him when he was a college-age student deeply in love with a woman his parents didn’t approve of. It profoundly reshaped my understanding of my parents and grandparents, and despite the fact that they are all complete fucking wingnuts, I can’t help but respect them for it.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:20:19pm

re: #18 teleskiguy

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The edit button works here because of the very active monitoring. Twitter has a long ways to go in making their community safer and more welcoming to minorities before they should start handing out tools that let people troll more effectively.

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De Kolta Chair  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:21:03pm

The very talented Greg Brown covering that Nobel Prize winning guy who’s name escapes me

Pledging My Time

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:21:07pm

re: #34 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

This is just fucking maddening. The zeal of the US government to imply that NK has actual, usable nuclear weapons and missiles that could reach the US (fucking Maryland, ferchrissakes?) even empty, and the news media parroting and hyperventilating over these ridiculous exaggerations, have now killed a man. And they’ll never stop, ‘cause it sells ads. Grrrrrr!!!!

Saddam Hussein, WMDs, etc.

We’ve been down this road before.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:21:15pm

re: #49 Joe Bacon 🌹

And we have another example of MAGA bigotry as a TexAssHole makes a fool of himself.

dailykos.com

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His son must be so proud.

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JordanRules  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:22:26pm

re: #48 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

I lost both in my parents when I was a young adult but we never talked about who either one was voting for, that was a personal matter.

Funny how things that once were hidden now become defining.

As they should. Doesn’t rule out redemption and re-defining tho.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:22:30pm

re: #47 MsJ

It’s horseshit. Nichols is blaming liberals for Miller (and he, himself) being an asshole.

Everything else he said beyond that is irrelevant. I stopped reading.

Own it, you fucking dickbag. You own trump because you created it with shit like that…for 20+ years of bullshit.

Yeah I’m tired of conservatives blaming us for the way they are. I didn’t become a liberal because I thought Rush Limbaugh was a turd. I became a liberal because I really do believe in what I believe but Nichols and Miller seem to be just about own the libz.

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whitebeach  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:23:23pm

re: #54 Eclectic Cyborg

Saddam Hussein, WMDs, etc.

We’ve been down this road before.

Fear is the mind killer.

It is also the vote getter.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:24:25pm

re: #46 JordanRules

That’s exactly what I was thinking.
Shitting on the custodial staff in front of the whole school at an assembly or whatever? Nah, that doesn’t track to me.

Miller’s mother’s family is from the same town in Pennsylvania as my mom’s. Used to be a reliably Democratic area for a long time until about 2000. Now it’s one of the reasons why PA went for Trump. I don’t know what child reads Rush Limbaugh and thinks YEAH THAT’S WHAT I WANT TO BE but that’s not a product of liberal orthodoxy or whatever Nichols is saying. Guys like Nichols and Miller became conservatives for the same reason Reagan became conservatives, they resented that they’d have to share the pie with someone else.

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teleskiguy  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:25:02pm

re: #47 MsJ

Tom Nichols is one of those Never Trumpers who will crack open some old scotch the minute they find out Mike Pence becomes president after Fuckface Von Clownstick is removed and they’ll go back to being entitled aging white shitbags, like William Kristol, David Frum, Jennifer Rubin, etc.

Nichols has a point, though, about money and politics. He says he had a hardscrabble early adulthood, working, and being with real people, because he wasn’t rich, and that “made him a better person” (I put that in quotes because I’m paraphrasing and calling bullshit). Stephen Miller has never had to worry about money in his life, ever. His parents co-signed on a $1.5 million condo in Washington D.C., where he now lives. He saw power in being a troll when he was a teenager, and he’s been a fucking destructive fucking (dare I say it) cunt ever since, and our whole country is paying the price.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:25:43pm

The thing is conservatives are just as smug in their own way and libertarians definitely are. I’m not saying liberals can’t be smug but the smug liberal bs is just that. And a lot of what Tom would consider smug and hypocritical is rightfully pointing out truths that conservatives like him are uncomfortable with.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:27:19pm

re: #51 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It all came out when I was dating my first girlfriend. My dad told me the whole story about how his mom wasn’t allowed to come to his wedding and she sent someone to represent the family in her stead, and how she regretted that decision up until the day my dad introduced her to my mom’s family and brought her into the fold (I don’t know when that happened, presumably before I was born). My dad was telling me all this so that I would feel comfortable choosing the right woman, even if he or my mom didn’t approve, because the same thing happened to him when he was a college-age student deeply in love with a woman his parents didn’t approve of. It profoundly reshaped my understanding of my parents and grandparents, and despite the fact that they are all complete fucking wingnuts, I can’t help but respect them for it.

That is tough, sorry for that story….damn….Realistic religious folks have become saner while the conservative takes on religion have gotten even more oppressive.

The closest I come to that was my parents saying that they couldn’t go to an uncle’s wedding when it happened because he was a catholic marrying a protestant…

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:27:27pm

re: #42 HappyWarrior

I’d love to know what liberal orthodoxy would make someone do the stuff I read Miller did as a high school student.

Just read the “Vanity Fair” article about Miller. He was always an awful person. He once told a high school friend that they could no longer hang out because the friend was Latino. Who the hell does that?

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teleskiguy  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:28:20pm

re: #52 goddamnedfrank

The edit button works here because of the very active monitoring. Twitter has a long ways to go in making their community safer and more welcoming to minorities before they should start handing out tools that let people troll more effectively.

God damn it, goddamnedfrank, that’s a goddamned excellent point.

Three minute edit window? Just spitballin’

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JordanRules  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:28:45pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

The thing is conservatives are just as smug in their own way and libertarians definitely are. I’m not saying liberals can’t be smug but the smug liberal bs is just that. And a lot of what Tom would consider smug and hypocritical is rightfully pointing out truths that conservatives like him are uncomfortable with.

Yeah. I find lots of folks project smug on liberals when they know we’re fucking right and have nothing left. They could step back and re-evaluate their position but they double down.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:29:08pm

re: #62 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

That is tough, sorry for that story….damn….Realistic religious folks have become saner while the conservative takes on religion have gotten even more oppressive.

The closest I come to that was my parents saying that they couldn’t go to an uncle’s wedding when it happened because he was a catholic marrying a protestant…

It was an eye-opener because my parents, for obvious reasons, weren’t real open about it up until the point where I started dating. Once my dad opened up to me, though, it suddenly made sense where they were coming from. That made the decision to marry Mrs. Fish so much easier. Yeah, she was a wild shieldmaiden of the North, but she was The Right One, and they even liked her from the start, which made it that much easier.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:29:52pm

re: #60 teleskiguy

Agreed. Right now, some Never Trumpers are simply embarrassed at Trump’s shenanigans, idiocy and out loud bigotry. Had Cruz or Rubio been elected, they would have been fine with the same exact policies being implemented. I expect that they’ll part ways with us officially in 2020.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:31:11pm

re: #65 JordanRules

Yeah. I find lots of folks project smug on liberals when they know we’re fucking right and have nothing left. They could step back and re-evaluate their position but they double down.

Telling us we just want free stuff and holy shit the condescending talk about how we don’t understand economics.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:32:14pm

And don’t get me started on the condescending jokes Reagan threw at Democrats in the name of humor.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:32:33pm

My big problem with conservatism as an ideology is how self full of self-rationalizing it is. I can worship capitalism and I can claim to be following Christ. I can claim to be for limited government while pushing restrictions on choice, bathroom laws, etc. I don’t like libertarians but they don’t have the same nauseating hypocrisy. What they do unfortunately have instead if a smugness based off of reading economic theory and being convinced they’re right without understanding economic reality differs from economic theory. Marxists often act the same way.

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JordanRules  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:33:04pm

Rival my ass! 19-2!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:34:28pm

re: #71 JordanRules

Rival my ass! 19-2!!!!

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Those are Steelers-Browns like numbers. Wowie

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:36:03pm

re: #71 JordanRules

Rival my ass! 19-2!!!!

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Unseeded Williams…

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De Kolta Chair  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:36:22pm

The sexy side of Jack Kirby

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JordanRules  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:38:35pm

re: #73 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

Unseeded Williams…

Right! And one of the commentators spoke about their “absences” as if they were the same, completely unqualified.
Ummm…one was suspended for PEDs and the other was bringing a whole ass human into the world. SMDH

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:38:36pm

I can’t tekl you how much it annoys me to see stupid memes talking down to “socialist” millennials” and how Bernie has brainwashed them against capitalism. The reason why more millennials have a dimmer view on capitalism is because of right wing policies that hurt people like them that the people whom push those dumb memes benefited from.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:40:18pm

re: #71 JordanRules

Rival my ass! 19-2!!!!

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I don’t know how someone who hasn’t beaten you since 2004 is a rival but anyway yay Serena.

I guess “long-time whipping girl” just doesn’t sound the same as “long-time whipping boy”.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:40:46pm

re: #76 HappyWarrior

I can’t tekl you how much it annoys me to see stupid memes talking down to “socialist” millennials” and how Bernie has brainwashed them against capitalism. The reason why more millennials have a dimmer view on capitalism is because of right wing policies that hurt people like them that the people whom push those dumb memes benefited from.

Millennials are pissed off at capitalism because so many of them are saddled in college loan debt and, to a lesser degree, medical debt from the crappy insurance plans they’ve been stuck with. Starting one’s professional career $100k+ in the hole is no laughing matter. That takes a lot of time to pay off, unless you happen to be a fucking sports star.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:42:20pm

re: #78 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Millennials are pissed off at capitalism because so many of them are saddled in college loan debt and, to a lesser degree, medical debt from the crappy insurance plans they’ve been stuck with. Starting one’s professional career $100k+ in the hole is no laughing matter. That takes a lot of time to pay off, unless you happen to be a fucking sports star.

Exactly. The people who post shitty memes ignore how different the economy was back then. Oh and I wanted to smack Romney for his borrow money from your parents and start a business crack.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:43:58pm

re: #71 JordanRules

Didn’t know Maria was playing again. I guess that drug suspension is over.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:44:37pm

re: #79 HappyWarrior

Exactly. The people who post shitty memes ignore how different the economy was back then. Oh and I wanted to smack Romney for his borrow money from your parents and start a business crack.

Jesus fuck. I mean, my parents are well off, but that’s because they’re saving money for, umm, you know, TAKING CARE OF THEMSELVES IN RETIREMENT. I’m not going to see much of their nest egg, and that’s by design, it’s so that they aren’t burdening me with having to pay their debts once they’re gone. Whatever happens to be left is just a bonus for my sister and I. Borrow money to start a business, are you fucking kidding me?

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JordanRules  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:44:42pm

re: #72 HappyWarrior

Those are Steelers-Browns like numbers. Wowie

Interestingly, the 1980s was the decade with the greatest parity between them.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:45:03pm

Capitalism isn’t evil but the right’s vision of it certainly is.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:45:18pm

The balls on these guys I swear.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:45:38pm

re: #82 JordanRules

Interestingly, the 1980s was the decade with the greatest parity between them.

Yep. Another reason to hate that decade :)

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MsJ  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:45:40pm

re: #67 Patricia Kayden

Agreed. Right now, some Never Trumpers are simply embarrassed at Trump’s shenanigans, idiocy and out loud bigotry. Had Cruz or Rubio been elected, they would have been fine with the same exact policies being implemented. I expect that they’ll part ways with us officially in 2020.

Exactly why I refuse to give Schmidt and Wallace a pass for anything.

All these never trumpers lied their address of for years; with those two giving us Palin.

No passes to be granted. Not by me. Not ever.

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De Kolta Chair  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:46:18pm

re: #71 JordanRules

Rival my ass! 19-2!!!!

An old skool serve and volley fan, I’ve been saying for eons that I don’t care for the Williams sisters’ bang-bang style of play.

Like it fricking matters. Those gals kick major league arse!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:46:59pm

re: #87 De Kolta Chair

An old skool serve and volley fan, I’ve been saying for eons that I don’t care for the Williams sisters’ bang-bang style of play.

Like it fricking matters. Those gals kick major league arse!

Love ‘em or hate ‘em, there’s no denying that Venus and Serena own the current iteration of “modern womens’ tennis”.

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JordanRules  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:47:05pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

Yep. Another reason to hate that decade :)

Ha, ha!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:47:33pm

re: #84 goddamnedfrank

The balls on these guys I swear.

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I’m getting really tired of an apologist for Russia, Greenwald and friends telling me what I should and should not be doing as a liberal.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:48:43pm

re: #89 JordanRules

Ha, ha!!!!

And remember I was born that decade and my parents married in the 80’s too but culturally and sportswise and politically, meh!

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teleskiguy  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:48:55pm

Granted, Steve Schmidt was instrumental in foisting Sarah Palin on the U.S. political scene in 2008. Still, of all the Never Trumpers, this guy is backing his convictions up with words, and I see a political operative genuinely trying to make amends for his bonehead decisions of his past.

I mean, the guitarist and songwriter for Bad Religion posted a Steve Schmidt thread to his Twitter timeline!

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:50:09pm

re: #84 goddamnedfrank

To be honest, I feel that Glenn purposely turned her over to the authorities since his disdain of Russian interference stories is well known. I wish she had sent her info to Washington Post instead.

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TedStriker  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:51:16pm

re: #63 Patricia Kayden

Just read the “Vanity Fair” article about Miller. He was always an awful person. He once told a high school friend that they could no longer hang out because the friend was Latino. Who the hell does that?

Racists, that’s who.

Dickbag racists.

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JordanRules  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:51:28pm

re: #87 De Kolta Chair

An old skool serve and volley fan, I’ve been saying for eons that I don’t care for the Williams sisters’ bang-bang style of play.

Like it fricking matters. Those gals kick major league arse!

And I’ve seen such arguments from aficionados and experts in about every sport and I have no problem with it as long as you respect the talent and don’t carry that sentiment into the voting booth. LOL

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:52:29pm

re: #78 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Millennials are pissed off at capitalism because so many of them are saddled in college loan debt and, to a lesser degree, medical debt from the crappy insurance plans they’ve been stuck with. Starting one’s professional career $100k+ in the hole is no laughing matter. That takes a lot of time to pay off, unless you happen to be a fucking sports star.

Millenials were sold a bill of goods. There are a lot of good blueish collar jobs in the construction and building trades that eventually pay 6 figures but those are not he jobs that those guys are training for or even know exist.

They are not glamorous, advertised or even known to exist but there is a huge hole in the ladder. The folks bitching about immigrants can’t see the opportunity staring them right in the face. They don’t start off at huge salaries but they are careers, that is what this country used to be about.

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MsJ  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:52:46pm

re: #78 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Millennials are pissed off at capitalism because so many of them are saddled in college loan debt and, to a lesser degree, medical debt from the crappy insurance plans they’ve been stuck with. Starting one’s professional career $100k+ in the hole is no laughing matter. That takes a lot of time to pay off, unless you happen to be a fucking sports star.

It keeps them from participating in the economy. Can’t buy a house. Maybe can hehe car payments. Vacations? Maybe on a credit card, if at all. Debt. Debt. Debt.

They go ahead but never get ahead. I’d be pissed, too.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:53:50pm

I have a case by case view of the Never Trumpers. Some of them I give absolutely no respect or attention to like Shapiro who I don’t consider a real Never Trumper anyhow. Nichols is in that category. Others are in the category “Okay, I can appreciate what you’re saying but you still suck”, Kristol I’d say fits that role. And then there are others I have some general wariness like Schmidt or George Will. And others that I may be willing to give a choice since they not only criticize Trump but the whole Republican Party under Trump i.e. Navarro and Rubin.That said, I have no desire to cater to their whims. It’s up to them to either fix what passes for conservatism in this country or let it die a miserable death and be honest that movement conservatism has always been a deeply flawed movement long before Trump but I ain’t holding my breath on that because so many of these men and women made their bones pushing that which is why I know many of you don’t trust them and I don’t blame you.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 9:54:48pm

re: #97 MsJ

It keeps them from participating in the economy. Can’t buy a house. Maybe can hehe car payments. Vacations? Maybe on a credit card, if at all. Debt. Debt. Debt.

They go ahead but never get ahead. I’d be pissed, too.

Right, instead we’re treated to condescending bullshit about how we’re the participation trophy generation by the same people who gave us the trophies.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:00:17pm

I’d put Frum in the Kristol category though I know as a speechwriter he wasn’t active in the actual implementation of the Bush administration mistakes. I guess my problem with the Never Trump conservatives is they refuse to see why their ideology and party and not liberalism was so easy for Trump to use to get power. They lie to us and themselves by saying things like that Reagan would never do that and indeed there are things that Trump has done that Reagan would not do but other things including things that define Trump like running a racist campaign are things Reagan would do. Alienating our allies? That is something Bush did.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:01:05pm

re: #7 The Vicious Babushka

Oh look at this crybaby

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Now that’s funny.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:01:36pm

Didn’t realize that Bernie and Shaun King were having a rally in downtown Los Angeles. Sure would have been nice if Bernie urged people to get out and vote…but he uttered the same old bullshit…

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JordanRules  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:01:45pm

So sometimes I think back on election night and remember how deep down in my bones I knew something wasn’t right. Oh I also knew how racist and misogynistic our country was and still I felt something else was at play.

I couldn’t lean into that feeling right away because it would look really tin foil hat-ish but now….27 indictments (and counting) later…yeah, the bones knew.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:02:28pm

re: #102 Joe Bacon 🌹

Didn’t realize that Bernie and Shaun King were having a rally in downtown Los Angeles. Sure would have been nice if Bernie urged people to get out and vote…but he uttered the same old bullshit…

I really dislike Bernie in large part because I think for all his flaws he could actually be effective but he’s incredibly ineffective in practice.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:03:21pm

re: #103 JordanRules

So sometimes I think back on election night and remember how deep down in my bones I knew something wasn’t right. Oh I also knew how racist and misogynistic our country was and still I felt something else was at play.

I couldn’t lean into that feeling right away because it would look really tin foil hat-ish but now….27 indictments (and counting) later…yeah, the bones knew.

I still can’t believe it. I drank a lot of beer that day expecting it would be a celebration. Ended up being a numbing next day at the office. It has inspired me to do more political work but man it really has disillusioned me about a lot of our country.

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JordanRules  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:03:54pm

re: #102 Joe Bacon 🌹

Didn’t realize that Bernie and Shaun King were having a rally in downtown Los Angeles. Sure would have been nice if Bernie urged people to get out and vote…but he uttered the same old bullshit…

Ugggh. He always tells on himself. His true motives are always revealed by what he focuses on and more importantly, what he doesn’t.

Go away!!!!!!!

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De Kolta Chair  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:04:08pm

re: #88 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Love ‘em or hate ‘em, there’s no denying that Venus and Serena own the current iteration of “modern womens’ tennis”.

Here here! Sweet dreams and Go Fed! ;-)

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ericblair  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:04:32pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

I have a case by case view of the Never Trumpers.

Most of them are enemies of our enemies. Useful, but not allies. They tend to remind you from time to time that they aren’t on our side, so keep aware of it.

If you play video games, this is easier to understand. Let the evil mercenaries fight it out with the zombie hordes in the courtyards, and mop up the winners. Because the winners will turn on you the instant the other threat is gone.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:05:00pm

re: #106 JordanRules

Ugggh. He always tells on himself. His true motives are always revealed by what he focuses on and more importantly, what he doesn’t.

Go away!!!!!!!

I really want more people to call him on his shit. I want his rock star status on the left to die a painful death.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:05:36pm

re: #78 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Millennials are pissed off at capitalism because so many of them are saddled in college loan debt and, to a lesser degree, medical debt from the crappy insurance plans they’ve been stuck with. Starting one’s professional career $100k+ in the hole is no laughing matter. That takes a lot of time to pay off, unless you happen to be a fucking sports star.

When I got out of college had problems paying off the $8,250 I borrowed. When I started at Pitt in 1973 Tuition and Room & board were both $405. Now they are 15X as much!

in 2016 we hired kids in our office whose college debt approached $100K. It’s f’n insane. But this is part of the Republican Master Plan to dumb down the masses.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:06:02pm

re: #108 ericblair

Most of them are enemies of our enemies. Useful, but not allies. They tend to remind you from time to time that they aren’t on our side, so keep aware of it.

If you play video games, this is easier to understand. Let the evil mercenaries fight it out with the zombie hordes in the courtyards, and mop up the winners. Because the winners will turn on you the instant the other threat is gone.

Yep, some more often than not. Nichols certainly does when he engages in his sexist screeds against Hillary and Pelosi. Jeb did it recently when he praised DeVos’s education reclrd.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:06:32pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

I have a case by case view of the Never Trumpers. Some of them I give absolutely no respect or attention to like Shapiro who I don’t consider a real Never Trumper anyhow. Nichols is in that category. Others are in the category “Okay, I can appreciate what you’re saying but you still suck”, Kristol I’d say fits that role. And then there are others I have some general wariness like Schmidt or George Will.

The thing is with Mighty Ben Shapiro and George Will is that they don’t strive to be better than the average decent human, their goal is to be better than the average republican.

They can always look down at their own party and get a nod from the “moderate” media always looking for a voice of balance.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:06:43pm

re: #110 Joe Bacon 🌹

When I got out of college had problems paying off the $8,250 I borrowed. When I started at Pitt in 1973 Tuition and Room & board were both $405. Now they are 15X as much!

in 2016 we hired kids in our office whose college debt approached $100K. It’s f’n insane. But this is part of the Republican Master Plan to dumb down the masses.

Exactly, you get how things have changed for the American college student but unfortunately many conservatives either do not or don’t want to listen.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:07:12pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

I really want more people to call him on his shit. I want his rock star status on the left to die a painful death.

It was a packed house downtown with crowds outside the theater…Should make Manafort’s partner in crime Tad Devine very happy…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:07:26pm

re: #112 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

The thing is with Mighty Ben Shapiro and George Will is that they don’t strive to be better than the average decent human, their goal is to be better than the average republican.

They can always look down at their own party and get a nod from the “moderate” media always looking for a voice of balance.

Correct. I do like Will more than Shapiro since I think he’s actually intelliegnt rather than Shapiro who is just a stupid person’s idea of a smart person.

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JordanRules  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:07:59pm

re: #112 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

The thing is with Mighty Ben Shapiro and George Will is that they don’t strive to be better than the average decent human, their goal is to be better than the average republican.

They can always look down at their own party and get a nod from the “moderate” media always looking for a voice of balance.

I’d never thought about it like that! Really good observation.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:08:06pm

re: #114 Joe Bacon 🌹

It was a packed house downtown with crowds outside the theater…Should make Manafort’s partner in crime Tad Devine very happy…

Agh. I really hope he’s pretty much a non entity but I am not so sure. His son is even worse than he is.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:13:47pm

I TBH don’t know how Bernie can act like he’s for transparency when he refuses to release his own taxes. It’s a little easier to push back against that now since Trump hasn’t but there are fair questions about his financial ethics from what I understand and there would be IMO even if there wasn’t the scandal with Jane. I’ll tell you why I really hate the idea of Sanders in 2020 though. And it’s simple. We’er supposed to be a party about change and freshness. An 80 year old guy whose arguments are stuck in the 50’s isn’t the solution. I don’t know what draws so many young people, mostly white tbh to people like him and Ron Paul, they’re not revolutioanry at all. In fact, they’re fighting the 19th century century.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:13:52pm

re: #116 JordanRules

I’d never thought about it like that! Really good observation.

1 out of 30 observations by me might be worth a crud…thanks!

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De Kolta Chair  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:17:48pm

Nighty night, lizards. Here’s Rosemary Clooney, Scott Hamilton, Warren Vache, et alia at their very best, which is saying a lot…

Rosemary Clooney - Dream Medley Dream Hit The Road

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JordanRules  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:17:57pm

Blue Flame!

There is a strip club in Atlanta named The Blue Flame but I promise I wasn’t thinking about that. The color just seems very intense and oddly fiery to me.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:18:37pm

re: #121 JordanRules

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Blue Flame!

There is a strip club in Atlanta named The Blue Flame but I promise I wasn’t thinking about that. The color just seems very intense and oddly fiery to me.

Cookie Monster poop.

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JordanRules  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:25:50pm

re: #122 HappyWarrior

Cookie Monster poop.

ROFL
The kids would love that name!!!

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:27:27pm

re: #122 HappyWarrior

Cookie Monster poop.

lol, perfect but probably last on the last…..

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JordanRules  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:27:29pm

re: #123 JordanRules

ROFL
The kids would love that name!!!

Oh, I like this one, but I’d expand it to Congress.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 2, 2018 • 10:27:55pm

re: #123 JordanRules

ROFL
The kids would love that name!!!

It was the color. It looks like his fur.

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mmmirele  Jun 2, 2018 • 11:01:59pm

That blue is an amazing pigment, but the things I wanted to know were artsy type things—can it be used in paints or fabric coloring? Apparently it can be, but right now it’s about six times the price of cobalt blue (according to Gamblin, a paint maker). And anyone who has ever looked at artists’ paints seriously (or, in my case, sold them) knows that cobalt blue is up there in the “most expensive paint” category. So I don’t see it becoming a paint for artists any time soon.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 2, 2018 • 11:04:31pm

re: #127 mmmirele

That blue is an amazing pigment, but the things I wanted to know were artsy type things—can it be used in paints or fabric coloring? Apparently it can be, but right now it’s about six times the price of cobalt blue (according to Gamblin, a paint maker). And anyone who has ever looked at artists’ paints seriously (or, in my case, sold them) knows that cobalt blue is up there in the “most expensive paint” category. So I don’t see it becoming a paint for artists any time soon.

On the subject of a name, though, how about “Pandoran powder-puff”?

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 2, 2018 • 11:06:15pm

re: #121 JordanRules

Blue Steel.

But Crayola will have to get Ben Stiller’s permission to use that.

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JordanRules  Jun 2, 2018 • 11:13:06pm

re: #127 mmmirele

That blue is an amazing pigment, but the things I wanted to know were artsy type things—can it be used in paints or fabric coloring? Apparently it can be, but right now it’s about six times the price of cobalt blue (according to Gamblin, a paint maker). And anyone who has ever looked at artists’ paints seriously (or, in my case, sold them) knows that cobalt blue is up there in the “most expensive paint” category. So I don’t see it becoming a paint for artists any time soon.

Well it is going to be a crayon so at least it will be widely accessible to children.

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JordanRules  Jun 2, 2018 • 11:21:09pm

A pithy summary for today…

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 2, 2018 • 11:23:03pm

re: #110 Joe Bacon 🌹

When I got out of college had problems paying off the $8,250 I borrowed. When I started at Pitt in 1973 Tuition and Room & board were both $405. Now they are 15X as much!

in 2016 we hired kids in our office whose college debt approached $100K. It’s f’n insane. But this is part of the Republican Master Plan to dumb down the masses.

I was kinda lucky with my daughters. They each spent ~3 years at a junior college and working part time, I paid for their junior year, oldest at UCB, and youngest starts as a junior at Mills College this year, but in their senior year they qualify on their own wages because of their age, so get free or reduced tuition based on their income.

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teleskiguy  Jun 2, 2018 • 11:25:09pm

Officials have identified two climbers who died when they fell from El Capitan in Yosemite National Park.

The climbers named Saturday were 46-year-old Jason Wells of Boulder, Colorado, and 42-year-old Tim Klien of Palmdale, California.

Rangers received multiple 911 calls that two climbers had fallen while climbing the Freeblast Route.

This investigation is ongoing and no further details were immediately available.

It was the second fatal incident in Yosemite National Park in a little over a week.

Last week, a hiker fell to his death while climbing the iconic granite cliffs of Half Dome in rainy conditions

My condolences to their kin and friends.

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JordanRules  Jun 2, 2018 • 11:46:43pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 2, 2018 • 11:55:28pm

teenagers loaded up on nazi hate propoganda

And so far your midterm election ball is red. Funny how that works when your political extremist party pushes for tax increases, illegal alien rights and supports MS13 and Hamas.

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Danack  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:29:42am

re: #15 HappyWarrior

I don’t want to CT this but man this administration has a lot strange goings on.

I don’t want to CT Melania’s status either…..but fuck it’s fucking weird. It would be weird with just Melania not being seen in public for weeks, but there are at least two instances of Trump trying to cover up her disappearance.

On May 25, responding to reporters’ questions about the first lady’s wellbeing, President Trump gestured toward a White House window and said, “She’s doing great. She’s looking at us right there.” As reported at the Washington Post, there was no sign of Melania in any of the windows. The remark may well have been an off-hand comment not meant to be taken literally.

That is fucking weird.

A husband sending a “proof of life” tweet for his missing wife? That’s REALLY fucking weird.

About the only thing I would rule out is her being dead, as I’m pretty sure the secret service would report that……but something like Trump beating the crap out of her? That’s something the SS would probably help keep secret.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:39:50am

re: #136 Danack

I don’t want to CT Melania’s status either…..but fuck it’s fucking weird. It would be weird with just Melania not being seen in public for weeks, but there are at least two instances of Trump trying to cover up her disappearance.

That is fucking weird.

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A husband sending a “proof of life” tweet for his missing wife? That’s REALLY fucking weird.

About the only thing I would rule out is her being dead, as I’m pretty sure the secret service would report that……but something like Trump beating the crap out of her? That’s something the SS would probably help keep secret.

It’s certainly weird. Maybe she had cosmetic surgery and things didn’t go so well, or alternatively, maybe it went well but she needs a bit more time to heal. She’s only one year younger than me and as we get older, it takes longer to heal - just one of those facts of biology.

It’s definitely……..odd.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:44:32am

Facebook Post

Top comment:
“Being peed on isn’t the same as being anointed.”

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:47:19am

re: #138 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Time of the false prophets, anyone?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:57:30am

re: #139 Single-handed sailor

Time of the false prophets, anyone?

True profits though.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:36:24am

Are you ready?

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:38:40am
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Single-handed sailor  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:47:29am
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Single-handed sailor  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:56:13am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:29:11am

re: #141 Dave In Austin

I can appreciate some gun porn. There are a lot of gorgeous killing devices* out there; that, thing, is not one of them. Holy hell, that is ugly as all fuck.

* — disclosure, I collect knives and swords.

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I cannot.  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:32:41am

re: #145 Colère Tueur de Lapin

It’s a Ben Garrison cartoon chambered in .45 ACP.

EDIT: Wait…no, its a .22 LR.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:27:46am

re: #141 Dave In Austin

Are you ready?

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My cat says that’s a pussy gun.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:33:06am

re: #141 Dave In Austin

I’m not a gun connoisseur, but lord that is one ugly piece of metal.

I wonder if it will be made from foreign steel.

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jeffreyw  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:43:19am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:47:36am

Just got back from a short walkabout the farm.
Deer are raising a ruckus up in the woods.
It sounds like a gang fight ready to start up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:53:08am

something for Shiplord:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:00:30am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:01:10am

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

something for Shiplord:

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I’ll have to check up on Lubbock. Ralls is just a few miles east of there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:02:15am

oh…

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:03:17am

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh…

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Curiouser and curiouser….

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wheat-dogg  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:03:53am

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

Must be the annual meeting of the Brutal Despot Club.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:04:45am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:15:31am

re: #148 wheat-dogg

I’m not a gun connoisseur, but lord that is one ugly piece of metal.

I wonder if it will be made from foreign steel.

It’s made by Carl Walther Sportswaffen, apparently in Germany. During World War II, Walther used slave labor at the Neuengamme concentration camp, and operated its own factory at the camp.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:17:35am

re: #158 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

It’s made by Carl Walther Sportswaffen, apparently in Germany. During World War II, Walther used slave labor at the Neuengamme concentration camp, and operated its own factory at the camp.

Sooo, is it safe to presume that this will be one German product that will not have a tariff applied?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:19:20am

moron is awake

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:21:03am
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:23:39am

re: #141 Dave In Austin

re: #148 wheat-dogg

I did a google search for Tiffany Colt Revolver and saw some very interesting guns. The engraving on some of them is beautiful. There are some that do not look good at all.

google.com

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:35:52am

re: #162 PhillyPretzel

I see we have another entry for Philly Pretzel’s thread killers. Sigh.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:37:46am

I’m still here. Just puzzling over a computer issue

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wheat-dogg  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:40:13am

I’m also marveling at how that face on the pistol grip looks not at all like Trump.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:40:54am

re: #141 Dave In Austin

Guaranteed to make your hands look tiny.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:50:11am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:50:49am

re: #141 Dave In Austin

Are you ready?

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Oh come on! That can’t be real.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:52:20am

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Okay I know a lot of us don’t like or trust Kasich but I’ll give him credit here.

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Jay C  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:52:22am

re: #156 wheat-dogg

Must be the annual meeting of the Brutal Despot Club.

More likely the 2018 Pyongyang Missile Show and Illegal Arms Expo: like a regular gun show, except held in secret, and with a very restricted ticket list…

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wheat-dogg  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:54:38am

A screen cap. Note the delay between the two tweets. And the flopsweat.

Nervous much, bro?
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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:56:04am

re: #171 wheat-dogg

“We should have been told! Why was I responsible for vetting!!!”

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:57:00am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:58:27am

He has no sense of personal responsibility at all. I’m so sick of his whining.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:01:08am

He’s so obviously guilty. Hopefully Mueller gets him put away. I hate that we may have to see a President in jail but we’ve had governors, members of Congress, judges, & cabinet members. Trump is a criminal.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:01:12am

Ivanka now has an alias, it seems.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:03:21am

re: #174 HappyWarrior

This is what you get when you shield a child with money and never tell them no and give in to every demand. He’s been like this his whole life, ask people who live in NYC, hell, he’s even admitted a lot of it. He never had to learn a fucking thing because no one ever cared enough to make sure he turned out to be a decent human being. Now we all get to pay.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:04:05am

re: #176 wheat-dogg

Ivanka now has an alias, it seems.

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Her own brand has gone toxic…

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wheat-dogg  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:05:43am

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

The rebranding occurred last year, because the Ivanka label was not selling. The Adrienni Vittadini label is more well known and respected, maybe.

theguardian.com

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:05:48am

re: #177 A Mom Anon

This is what you get when you shield a child with money and never tell them no and give in to every demand. He’s been like this his whole life, ask people who live in NYC, hell, he’s even admitted a lot of it. He never had to learn a fucking thing because no one ever cared enough to make sure he turned out to be a decent human being. Now we all get to pay.

Exactly. This is such a nightmare. As I said the other day, cleaning up after him is going to be the difficult part.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:06:03am

“Nice to be with you, Todd….I mean Chris.” -Rudy G on MTP.

* CLICK *

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:06:15am

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

Her own brand has gone toxic…

Good.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:07:46am

re: #177 A Mom Anon

This is what you get when you shield a child with money and never tell them no and give in to every demand. He’s been like this his whole life, ask people who live in NYC, hell, he’s even admitted a lot of it. He never had to learn a fucking thing because no one ever cared enough to make sure he turned out to be a decent human being. Now we all get to pay.

The demon child all grown up.

In China, they call little kids who are handed everything by parents and more often grandparents, “little emperors,” because the kids are stupendously bratty. The rich ones are much worse.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:10:08am

rudy, rudy, rudy…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:10:10am

re: #183 wheat-dogg

The demon child all grown up.

In China, they call little kids who are handed everything by parents and more often grandparents, “little emperors,” because the kids are stupendously bratty. The rich ones are much worse.

Makes it all the more amazing how he’s become the hero of so many schmos. I think that illustrates how keenly prejudice is rooted in parts of our culture though.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:11:27am

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

rudy, rudy, rudy…

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I liked Rudy better when his name was Lionel Hutz and he was representing Homer Simpson in his lawsuit against The Frying Dutchman.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:12:57am

I am hoping against all hope that the family gathering (sans Melania) over the weekend at Camp David means something bigly is going to break this week, and The Donald was telling his kids to stand ready.

Or, he told them that Mel and he were now splitsville, or that Mel has “disappeared” along with all those other illegal aliens.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:13:41am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:14:06am

jeebus

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wheat-dogg  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:14:33am

re: #185 HappyWarrior

Makes it all the more amazing how he’s become the hero of so many schmos. I think that illustrates how keenly prejudice is rooted in parts of our culture though.

It makes me wonder why we never hear anything about Trump from his former classmates or teachers. Did the fam make all of them sign NDAs?

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:14:59am

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

“A Deal” is a uniquely vague goal.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:16:21am

Rudy G just said that Trump is not going to attempt to pardon himself. Which means that Trump is going to pardon himself.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:17:52am
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wheat-dogg  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:18:04am

re: #191 jaunte

“A Deal” is a uniquely vague goal.

Don’t you remember the Deal of Versailles? Or the Nuclear Disarmament Deal? All great leaders work out deals. It is known.
//

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:19:18am

So many people eager to put training wheels on this presidency.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:19:37am

heh

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wheat-dogg  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:19:48am

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

I would have decked that reporter. Serena is stronger than I, in many ways.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:21:28am

re: #191 jaunte

“A Deal” is a uniquely vague goal.

He’ll get that Pyongyang McDonalds yet, just you wait and see!

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:24:21am

Trump is such a great deal-maker, the people on the other side of the table can’t understand what he wants.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:25:19am

LOL

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:26:11am

I watched Lawrence Tribe on C-Span this morning. He was patient and clear and not overly partisan. The calls were shocking. Every “democrat” who called in said they’d voted for Trump and he should be left alone to do the job he was elected to do. I suspect there was a lot of bad faith in the calls, but there really is a sizable segment of the population that have believed Trump’s lies from the beginning and any attempt to bring him to justice will be seen as the culmination of a witch hunt. There will be no catharsis.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:27:26am
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ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:27:30am

Morning!

I see there were opportunities taken to trash the Cleveland Browns last night.

I have a long memory.

Trying to watch the local politics show on NBC and one thing stands out…no matter what is going wrong with the Republican party it is very important for any Republican to mention both sides do it. And if you have to, just mention something that isn’t even a fair comparison…Democrats do it too.

This all comes from the current mess in the Ohio Senate and House where things are in what can be called political constipation due to all the resignations of criminal Republicans.

There is no current Ohio House Speaker because Republicans can’t agree on who it should be and the Democrats are just standing back and watching the implosion. Of course that is made out to be the Democrats are not helping by not working with the Republicans.

Just like the US Congress…Ohio Republicans are the majority and can’t work with each other. So, blame it on Democrats.

Arrrrrrgh!

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retired cynic  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:27:33am

Coming in late, and didn’t check to make sure someone hasn’t already said this. What if this Melania thing is another distraction? An ever larger amount of public and media attention is being given to it, and it keeps that attention off of things DT would rather we not notice. Or not. //

Now off to mow grass before it gets too hot!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:29:13am

Perhaps Melania never really existed?

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:32:23am

re: #205 I Would Prefer Not To

If Trump marries someone, and they never speak, did it happen?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:32:27am
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wheat-dogg  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:32:52am

re: #205 I Would Prefer Not To

Perhaps Melania never really existed?

Oh no. Does this mean Trump has the Infinity Time Stone and the Reality Stone?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:34:25am
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Ace Rothstein  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:35:52am

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

Notice that he doesn’t mention that Sleazy Paul was his campaign manager.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:35:57am

I give exams tomorrow morning, so I bid you all adieu as I head to bed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:37:35am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:39:23am

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Pirro has no ideology except I hate the Clintons and love Trump. She has no ethics at all.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:39:35am

re: #191 jaunte

“A Deal” is a uniquely vague goal.

As I noted previously, “a deal” is all the shit-head cares about. It doesn’t matter if it’s bad for the US (and, he will “negotiate” a bad one), it’s a “deal” and he got it done.

We, as a nation, are soooo fucked.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:39:40am

re: #187 wheat-dogg

I am hoping against all hope that the family gathering (sans Melania) over the weekend at Camp David means something bigly is going to break this week, and The Donald was telling his kids to stand ready.

Or, he told them that Mel and he were now splitsville, or that Mel has “disappeared” along with all those other illegal aliens.

I think he’s getting more and more scared and I don’t think he can hold his mud long enough to get indicted to pardon himself—I think he’s getting set to preemptively pardon himself. I’m sure he believes he can do that.

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Citizen K  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:40:33am

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

Man, it would be nice if there was some counterpoint to be had on shows like this. It’s almost like there’s a whole other political party that could provide a different perspective to this. But where could the Sunday show bookers find them?

Hrm…well, while they think of that, time for more hagiographies of Trump from his political allies!!

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:41:08am
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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:41:59am

“…Donald Trump’s security guards once shoved, threatened, and held a 12-year-old boy and his mother against their will after her husband promised to go public with damaging allegations against the Trump Organization, according to the family’s account in FBI records and court filings.”

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:43:05am

re: #217 jaunte

That story is from August 2017.

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ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:44:32am

re: #199 jaunte

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Trump is such a great deal-maker, the people on the other side of the table can’t understand what he wants.

That seems to be due to the fact there may not really be anything Trump wants, he is just mouthing off and sounding tough on trade to his base.

He’s got nothing, but he talks tough like he does. The base eats it up. The rest of the world is left in the lurch trying to figure out what the hell is going on.

Trump looks good to his base. America looks stupid to the world. Great!

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:45:13am

re: #219 Ace Rothstein

Yes, and he got away with kidnapping and intimidation.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:46:19am

re: #220 ObserverArt

That seems to be due to the fact there may not really be anything Trump wants, he is just mouthing off and sounding tough on trade to his base.

He’s got nothing, but he talks tough like he does. The base eats it up. The rest of the world is left in the lurch trying to figure out what the hell is going on.

Trump looks good to his base. America looks stupid to the world. Great!

Hey the libtards hate it and Frenchy Trudeau hates it, it must be great! It’s almost funny how a lot of Turmp’s economic policies are going to hit some of his core supporters the hardest.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:47:00am

re: #218 jaunte

“…Donald Trump’s security guards once shoved, threatened, and held a 12-year-old boy and his mother against their will after her husband promised to go public with damaging allegations against the Trump Organization, according to the family’s account in FBI records and court filings.”

Cosa Nostra has more class than this. At least they don’t go after kids.

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Citizen K  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:48:37am

re: #222 HappyWarrior

Hey the libtards hate it and Frenchy Trudeau hates it, it must be great! It’s almost funny how a lot of Turmp’s economic policies are going to hit some of his core supporters the hardest.

If it triggers the libs, it must be an unmitigated and objective good!! That’s just facts, you stupid snowflake SJWs!!!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:48:38am

re: #220 ObserverArt

That seems to be due to the fact there may not really be anything Trump wants, he is just mouthing off and sounding tough on trade to his base.

He’s got nothing, but he talks tough like he does. The base eats it up. The rest of the world is left in the lurch trying to figure out what the hell is going on.

Trump looks good to his base. America looks stupid to the world. Great!

And when his trade fuckups screw his base even worse than they’re already being screwed, they’ll believe him when he tells them it’s M0AR AND M0AR ILL EAGLES TAKIN’ ARE JERBS!!!! BUILD THE WALL!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:51:10am
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MsJ  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:53:07am

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

Who was the person doing the questioning? That was…odd.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:55:59am

re: #225 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And when his trade fuckups screw his base even worse than they’re already being screwed, they’ll believe him when he tells them it’s M0AR AND M0AR ILL EAGLES TAKIN’ ARE JERBS!!!! BUILD THE WALL!!!!

Absolutely right and the cycle will go on and we’ll continue to hear about economic anxiety and how all their troubles are liberal elites fault. They support a man who doesn’t give a fuck about them except as a cynical political tool.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:56:05am

re: #227 MsJ

Who was the person doing the questioning? That was…odd.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:56:07am

re: #221 jaunte

Of course he did. Sorry, my point was if it didn’t make a dent in August, it won’t make a dent now. That’s where we are now as a country.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:57:22am

Conservative voters care about “sticking it to the libs”. Liberal voters care about policies that work for people in this country. That’s the biggest difference between the two mindsets.

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Citizen K  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:00:09am

re: #231 HappyWarrior

Conservative voters care about “sticking it to the libs”. Liberal voters care about policies that work for people in this country. That’s the biggest difference between the two mindsets.

Unfortunately, Hate and Spite continue to prove to be the two single most powerful forces in politics, by far.

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ericblair  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:00:14am

re: #175 HappyWarrior

He’s so obviously guilty. Hopefully Mueller gets him put away. I hate that we may have to see a President in jail but we’ve had governors, members of Congress, judges, & cabinet members. Trump is a criminal.

I wouldn’t hate to see Trump in jail. That’s the one thing that will restore America’s standing in the world: if we can prove that noone is above the law and that includes the piece of garbage who now thinks he’s king.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:02:07am

re: #233 ericblair

I wouldn’t hate to see Trump in jail. That’s the one thing that will restore America’s standing in the world: if we can prove that noone is above the law and that includes the piece of garbage who now thinks he’s king.

I know. What I mean is I’d hate that we’d have to be at that point where a POTUS would be in jail but he needs to for the reasons you say.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:03:59am

re: #232 Citizen K

Unfortunately, Hate and Spite continue to prove to be the two single most powerful forces in politics, by far.

Yep people in the middle of nowhere voting for a New York douchebag real estate mogul who definitely looks down on them because they share his hatred of people they’ve never met.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:12:06am

My sister spoke to me last night, asking about Steve King of Iowa. (She’s in California.)

She asked what I knew of him … I pointed out his stance against “anchor grandbabies.”

She never uses coarse language at all. I’ve never heard her utter one coarse word. Her response was, “Our father was a first generation American. Fuck that guy.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:14:00am

re: #225 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And when his trade fuckups screw his base even worse than they’re already being screwed, they’ll believe him when he tells them it’s M0AR AND M0AR ILL EAGLES TAKIN’ ARE JERBS!!!! BUILD THE WALL!!!!

And he’ll screw up those of us who are not his supporters either who live in red states.

If it gets bad enough, someone tell me where the airlift point is to escape.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:14:24am

re: #236 Anymouse 🌹

My sister spoke to me last night, asking about Steve King of Iowa. (She’s in California.)

She asked what I knew of him … I pointed out his stance against “anchor grandbabies.”

She never uses coarse language at all. I’ve never heard her utter one coarse word. Her response was, “Our father was a first generation American. Fuck that guy.”

He’s quite honestly the most vile Republican in the House. And I’m including Nunes. King’s views are literally akin to Nazi Germany.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:15:56am

re: #9 JordanRules

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WTF?!?!

Famous But Incompetent

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:19:36am

There was an article I read on Mother Jones about the man challenging King. I like what I’ve read. He’s pointing out that King is nothing but a Trump stooge who does nothing to actually help farmers that comprise a lot of the district.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:27:47am

re: #236 Anymouse 🌹

“…King noted that his position was not about race but, rather, “our stock, our country, our culture, our civilization,” and that “we need to have enough babies to replace ourselves.” Yes, because there is a crazy baby shortage going on in America that has him deeply concerned that the human race will become extinct.

Oh, that’s right, there is no baby shortage! Babies are fine. America has never had a problem procreating.”
theroot.com

King, taking the position that Americans are livestock.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:35:21am

re: #241 jaunte

King, taking the position that Americans are livestock.

He is a racist. He’s always been one.

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Teukka  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:35:25am

Shit. Tho apparently not terrorism.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:36:42am

On the heels of that $4 “award” in Florida for being in your own garage while black:

rawstory.com

Dr. Covey Banks, a physician, and her family were vacationing in Florida when they were attacked in a hotel pool.

In a Facebook post with video of the family yelling and calling her a “black b*tch” and “n*gger,” Banks described an encounter that started because she dared point the direction of the restroom to a woman who wanted a child to simply pee in the pool at the Omni luxury hotel.

The family came back and became belligerent—in the video, a man holding a can of Miller Lite and slurring his speech tells her to “get back in the pool” and “don’t come to Florida” as she shoots video of the women attacking her—splashing Banks and her family and then finally escalating into intense verbal abuse.

What’s worse, when Banks asked hotel security to act they refused to immediately remove the family from the hotel.

“My niece saw them going into their room, which was in the same building and on the same floor as ours and my kids were frightened when we seen them at the pool later Sunday evening,” Banks writes.

Banks then called the police, who were also unhelpful in her telling, telling her that if she wanted to press charges they would both be charged.

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Tell me again why I should spend a dime of my money in Dixie? I’m white enough nothing like this would likely happen to me, but I told my son years ago that as long as he lives in Jacksonville I will not come to visit.

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Jay C  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:38:06am

re: #241 jaunte

re: #236 Anymouse 🌹

“…King noted that his position was not about race but, rather, “our stock, our country, our culture, our civilization,” and that “we need to have enough babies to replace ourselves.” Yes, because there is a crazy baby shortage going on in America that has him deeply concerned that the human race will become extinct.

Oh, that’s right, there is no baby shortage! Babies are fine. America has never had a problem procreating.”
theroot.com

King, taking the position that Americans are livestock.

The way I read this comment, it sounds more like Rep. King is using “stock” in its old-fashioned (as in 19th-Century-eugenics-type Old-fashioned) usage: basically code for “white folks just like us” -i.e. “English-speaking white Protestants of [accepted-varieties-of] European descent

The next rhetorical step is “purebred” vs. “mongrel”, which just MAY be a trope too far even for Steve King, but it’s an election year, who knows?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:39:29am

re: #245 Jay C

King, taking the position that Americans are livestock.

They I read this comment, it sounds more like Rep. King is using “stock” in its old-fashioned (as in 19th-Century-eugenics-type Old-fashioned) usage: basically code for “white folks just like us” -i.e. “English-speaking white Protestants of [accepted-varieties-of] European descent

The next rhetorical step is “purebred” vs. “mongrel”, which just MAY be a trope too far even for Steve King, but it’s an election year, who knows?

That’s how I read it too. He clearly means WASPs. Tough shit for him. This is country just as much as it yours Steve.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:41:21am

re: #245 Jay C

All connected to the “divine right” of kings and their blood relatives. Concepts of “blood” and “stock” are antithetical to American values of equality under the law.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:42:06am
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JordanRules  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:42:37am

re: #244 Anymouse 🌹

On the heels of that $4 “award” in Florida for being in your own garage while black:

rawstory.com

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Tell me again why I should spend a dime of my money in Dixie? I’m white enough nothing like this would likely happen to me, but I told my son years ago that as long as he lives in Jacksonville I will not come to visit.

Cause the same shit happens in the other regions of the country.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:42:54am

re: #245 Jay C

King, taking the position that Americans are livestock.

The way I read this comment, it sounds more like Rep. King is using “stock” in its old-fashioned (as in 19th-Century-eugenics-type Old-fashioned) usage: basically code for “white folks just like us” -i.e. “English-speaking white Protestants of [accepted-varieties-of] European descent

The next rhetorical step is “purebred” vs. “mongrel”, which just MAY be a trope too far even for Steve King, but it’s an election year, who knows?

I would like to think that the people of IA-4 (that includes the Iowa’s suburbs of Omaha) are sick of this guy and toss him, but he already had one Democratic challenger withdraw from her campaign over death threats.

There are three Democrats vying for the June 5 primary. There is a Republican woman challenging Steve King in the Republican Primary.

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JordanRules  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:45:08am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:47:23am
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JordanRules  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:47:37am
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:49:00am

re: #249 JordanRules

Cause the same shit happens in the other regions of the country.

If I find myself in Dixie, I’ll do my best to find black-owned businesses and do business with them.

(I think if that white family pulled that in CA, they’d be more likely to be charged.)

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:50:06am
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JordanRules  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:50:22am
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Jay C  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:51:27am

re: #252 The Vicious Babushka

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“Tearing down” Melania?

How? By demanding proof-of-live video?

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:51:44am

re: #253 JordanRules

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He shouldn’t get too excited - IIRC, the German government can revoke his credentials if he proves to be too much of a pain in the ass.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:52:27am

re: #141 Dave In Austin

Are you ready?

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Good lord I was hoping that was satire…but it’s not. The same company also offers this thing:

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JordanRules  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:52:32am

re: #254 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

If I find myself in Dixie, I’ll do my best to find black-owned businesses and do business with them.

(I think if that white family pulled that in CA, they’d be more likely to be charged.)

That’s a great idea! If you ever want any recommendations, I have some good resources for some of the southern states.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:53:05am

re: #252 The Vicious Babushka

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First off, they have been attacked, secondly you are the media, & thirdly you notice that Tiffany isn’t criticized because she’s not part of the administration like Ivanka and the boys. Fourthly, shut up for once.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:54:37am

re: #253 JordanRules

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You’re Ambassador for the United States not for Conservatism, also Chancellor Merkel is a conservative just not a Brownshirt.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:55:44am

re: #259 Eclectic Cyborg

Good lord I was hoping that was satire…but it’s not. The same company also offers this thing:

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It’s a cult.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:55:58am

re: #249 JordanRules

Cause the same shit happens in the other regions of the country.

It does, though Florida seems to take the cake (the woman who had a restraining order against her husband and jailed for “standing her ground,” Trayvon Martin, &c).

That $4 award (reduced to 4¢ by the judge) was far more insulting by the jury and judge than the jury simply finding that the plantiff’s had not met their burden-of-proof. That award was the jury and judge punishing the family for daring to bring a case.

Their lawyer stated they would appeal. (I don’t know how appeals go for civil suits.)

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:57:41am

re: #260 JordanRules

That’s a great idea! If you ever want any recommendations, I have some good resources for some of the southern states.

Miami hotel, Miami airport food provider? (Will be there in transit overnight.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:58:43am

re: #252 The Vicious Babushka

Obama’s family is untouchable, but every single day the Trump family is attacked - aren’t isn’t the media sick and tired of their own dirty tricks?

You’re welcome, Tami Lowrent.

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sagehen  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:02:03am

re: #121 JordanRules

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Blue Flame!

There is a strip club in Atlanta named The Blue Flame but I promise I wasn’t thinking about that. The color just seems very intense and oddly fiery to me.

Smurf.

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Jay C  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:03:58am

re: #247 jaunte

All connected to the “divine right” of kings and their blood relatives. Concepts of “blood” and “stock” are antithetical to American values of equality under the law.

Quite right, but those concepts have also been part of the “cultural” aspects of American “nationalism” since the beginning: e.g., Ben Franklin grumping about the immigration of poor Germans into Pennsylvania in the 18th C. or the general reaction of “natives” to the influx of the Irish in the 1840s, etc. Not even to mention racial obsessions.

Yes, America has always professed a dedication to the values of “equality under the law” - but there has always been (still is) a non-trivial bloc of the citizenry who are only too prone to define said values as “equality for those who deserve it” [insert Orwell quote HERE] : “deserving”, of course, by definitions we can all imagine.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:07:39am

re: #267 sagehen

Smurf.

Neon Smurfette.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:08:28am

re: #267 sagehen

Smurf.

Smurfberry because I know my Cookie Monster poop isn’t going to sell.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:09:24am

Good morning from sunny Los Angeles. Extra strong coffee after a long day yesterday, which by the way featured short lines and very pleasant agents at TSA. LAX and Vegas.

So it’s time to fill out my mail in ballot. *snip snip of tape*

Who got top billing? John H. Cox. Yeah, the no comment then yes I do, then endorsed by the tyrant child king guy.

Who got dead last literally on the second page? John Chiang. Maybe best described as the “mainstream” protest candidate if you don’t like Antonio V or Gavin Newsom.

To be fair California has a system for this

Statewide Office
Names of candidates for offices voted on statewide rotate by Assembly district… etc.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:11:21am

Defending Rosanne Barr’s comments against Valerie Jarrett, Marco Rubio campaign volunteer and ex-legislator says Barack Obama looks like a monkey.

miaminewtimes.com

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:11:40am

re: #121 JordanRules

Ultra Cyan or Deep Royal Blue.

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JordanRules  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:13:08am

re: #265 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Miami hotel, Miami airport food provider? (Will be there in transit overnight.)

Hilton Cabana Miami Beach, might be too far for an overnight.
You can use the service Innclusive for AirBnB like options too.
Still waiting for my other Florida friend to chime in on any airport vendors. Will let you know!

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JordanRules  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:15:07am
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:15:49am

re: #274 JordanRules

Thanks, Might also try Fort Lauderdale.

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JordanRules  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:16:53am

Apropos of nothing…maybe

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:17:08am

re: #273 PhillyPretzel

Ultra Cyan or Deep Royal Blue.

Bluey Mcblueface

/

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JordanRules  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:18:19am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:18:31am

Also, most of the best black owned businesses in the South will be restaurants and barber shops.

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JordanRules  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:19:09am
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Teukka  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:19:29am

re: #277 JordanRules

Apropos of nothing…maybe

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How To Launch Nuclear Missile

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Skip Intro  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:19:53am

re: #259 Eclectic Cyborg

Isn’t using his image and the flag in an ad illegal?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:23:05am
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JordanRules  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:23:20am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:25:13am

re: #283 Skip Intro

Isn’t using his image and the flag in an ad illegal?

It violates the US Flag Code. The Code has no enforcement mechanism.

That said, it’s just another conservative who claims he is patriotic and respects the flag, but doesn’t know crap about the Flag Code.

(It’s interesting in my town the leftiest person in town is chair of the Flag Committee.)

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JordanRules  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:25:38am

Nice title USA Today!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:28:16am

re: #283 Skip Intro

Isn’t using his image and the flag in an ad illegal?

4 U.S. Code § 8 - Respect for flag
(i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.

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retired cynic  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:29:23am

re: #251 JordanRules

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Dana Milbank WaPo wrote about that column (in a more correct, less snarky, way): washingtonpost.com

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JordanRules  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:33:09am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:35:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:36:59am
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Belafon  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:37:24am

re: #289 retired cynic

Dana Milbank WaPo wrote about that column (in a more correct, less snarky, way): washingtonpost.com

I liked it all except for this:

Now we’re seeing a mirror effect among Trump’s opponents that is deepening the racial divide. As Sean McElwee wrote in the New York Times recently , Democratic voters, particularly white Democrats, are shifting left in their views about race.

If whites are on both sides of the line, it’s not a racial divide, its a bigot divide.

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retired cynic  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:38:30am

re: #293 Belafon

Yes.

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Belafon  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:41:01am

One of the things I have worried about is that a not-insignificant number of those on the left would really start buying into the idea that we just need to take care of whites first. I’m actually glad that whites on the left are sliding more left on the race issue.

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Alephnaught  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:41:56am

re: #267 sagehen

Smurf.

Oh no! Don’t start that! It could turn into Boaty McBoatFace v2.0 before we know it!

EDIT: ///////.564351

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:42:12am
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MsJ  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:43:51am

re: #277 JordanRules

Apropos of nothing…maybe

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Except that I’m getting really old. 😫

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steve_davis  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:44:19am

re: #9 JordanRules

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WTF?!?!

I’m going to suggest this get corrected to “ex-FBI agent.” I doubt you shoot someone accidentally while dancing in a bar and retain the confidence of the FBI.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:45:10am

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

While you’re at it, search for the candidate’s name and “pedophile.” (See VA-10 candidate, Michigan state senate candidate, &c)

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JordanRules  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:46:19am

LOL

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:46:22am

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wonder what excuse they would use for someone for Neil DeGrasse Tyson?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:48:49am

re: #302 PhillyPretzel

I wonder what excuse they would use for someone for Neil DeGrasse Tyson?

Exception who proves the rule.

— —
Dragging the press in ten tweets:

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:52:12am

re: #301 JordanRules

John Goodman marries Phylicia Rashad after both of their spouses die in explosions. The Conner and Huxtable families merge Brady Bunch style.

Der Baader Meinhof Conner-Huxtable Komplex.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:52:27am
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TedStriker  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:53:39am

re: #301 JordanRules

LOL

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You know, I’d watch that…and both Roseanne and The Cosby Show were Carsey-Werner shows.

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JordanRules  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:55:02am

re: #306 TedStriker

You know, I’d watch that…and both are Carsey-Werner shows.

I would too!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 9:59:40am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:02:00am
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MsJ  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:07:18am

re: #292 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:10:05am

re: #283 Skip Intro

Isn’t using his image and the flag in an ad illegal?

Probably, but since when do these people fucking care?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:12:53am
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DodgerFan1988  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:15:20am

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

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No White Privilege to see here, folks. Move along, move along.

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ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:17:08am

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I saw that interview when it was shown on the Today show. I thought Morgan was going to kill that white nationalists with her stare. She kept her cool. I would have punched him.

Morgan is very quiet about her father and background. As far as I can tell, she doesn’t mention her father at all. I’m guessing she doesn’t because he was never involved in her life.

They say she is of Cuban and African American background. I think that makes her very suspect to any stupid white nationalists crap.

One thing, she seems very intelligent and diverse in what she likes to cover and do. More power to her.

I do know one thing…she is very attractive.

And as far as the white nationalist Arthur Jones running for Congress, that fool has apparently been running for political offices forever. The RNC is not backing him as he is too toxic. For some reason no one else contested as a Republican in Illinois district #3.

I don’t know Chicago…but what is going on in that district that this old fart is all that ran for the seat as a Republican? Is it a strictly Democratic area and Republicans shy away from contesting it?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:17:49am

re: #313 DodgerFan1988

No White Privilege to see here, folks. Move along, move along.

The argument in that thread appears to be that the teen in question who stole the shoes was accompanied by another person who pulled a firearm out during the robbery.

If that is so, then the teen is also guilty of armed robbery (even though he didn’t have a weapon).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:19:12am
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Ace Rothstein  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:19:55am

re: #311 Eclectic Cyborg

I think it’s hilarious that lay away is available.

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ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:22:54am

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Does anyone actually believe anything Jay Sekulow says then, now or in the future???

I don’t.

I think he is just another ‘fixer’ for the Don. He is the one that acts lawyerly where Cohen is the heavy. The old good lawyer/bad lawyer if you will. With Trump you can’t accept anything he or his “best” people say or do.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:27:27am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:27:47am
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MsJ  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:27:58am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:28:41am
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:29:08am

tariffs

looking up articles by mainstream analysts about when the next recession will hit, the consensus seems to be 2020 at the latest

i’ve never seen a president do so much to make it easy for people to blame him for any economic problems

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:29:45am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:30:21am

re: #320 Anymouse 🌹

FUN FACT: Trump hasn’t tweeted about Paul Manafort in 7 months. This mornin’ he’s already tweeted about him twice.

Maybe Manafort’s flipped.

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The Major  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:32:19am

re: #318 ObserverArt

Does anyone actually believe anything Jay Sekulow says then, now or in the future???

I don’t.

Sekulow got his infamous start as the original chief legal counsel of the ACLJ - that’s all one needs to know…

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JordanRules  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:33:26am

You may see this poll bandied about, but…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:34:21am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:35:06am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:35:47am
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JordanRules  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:36:10am
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JordanRules  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:38:26am

Doofus.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:39:59am

moron watching tv again

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:40:30am

re: #302 PhillyPretzel

I wonder what excuse they would use for someone for Neil DeGrasse Tyson?

Obviously an extra terrestrial

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:40:41am
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Skip Intro  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:42:31am

re: #311 Eclectic Cyborg

Probably, but since when do these people fucking care?

Well, yeah, there’s that.

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ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:42:54am

re: #326 The Major

Sekulow got his infamous start as the original chief legal counsel of the ACLJ - that’s all one needs to know…

Yeesh. I did know he was associated with freakin’ Pat Robertson. And then I see he is a follower of Messianic Judaism. What the hell is that? Wait, I don’t think I want to know. Seems like confusion to me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:43:46am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:45:43am

re: #337 ObserverArt

Yeesh. I did know he was associated with freakin’ Pat Robertson. And then I see he is a follower of Messianic Judaism. What the hell is that? Wait, I don’t think I want to know. Seems like confusion to me.

Messianic Judaism is a religious view of certain Jews who claim Jesus as the Messiah. (Which kind of makes them no longer Jewish but Christians following Jewish laws.)

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:52:16am

re: #337 ObserverArt

Yeesh. I did know he was associated with freakin’ Pat Robertson. And then I see he is a follower of Messianic Judaism. What the hell is that? Wait, I don’t think I want to know. Seems like confusion to me.

“Messianic Judaism” = a Jew who has converted to Christianity.

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dangerman  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:53:06am

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He shoulda gone with “I said average”. /s

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ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:53:17am

re: #339 Anymouse 🌹

Messianic Judaism is a religious view of certain Jews who claim Jesus as the Messiah. (Which kind of makes them no longer Jewish but Christians following Jewish laws.)

I wonder what the current count is of ‘religions’ is in the world right now?

As a Catholic schooled person, we were of course always taught it was the one true religion built upon St. Peter as a direct linage to Jesus Christ. Sounded good. They had plenty of books to back that up.

First grade in Catholic school and I was already confused by that teaching because all my neighborhood friends were of other religions. They seemed fine to me.

There was only 11 more years of confusion to go. But it did teach me a lot about religions and man.

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ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:55:39am

re: #340 The Vicious Babushka

“Messianic Judaism” = a Jew who has converted to Christianity.

How do devout Jews see that use of “Judaism” if they are Christians? Do they acknowledge them as Jews at all, or ignore them as non-Jews?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:56:42am

re: #341 dangerman

He shoulda gone with “I said average”. /s

He obviously is unfamiliar with the definition.

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freetoken  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:56:46am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:58:39am

re: #342 ObserverArt

I wonder what the current count is of ‘religions’ is in the world right now?

As a Catholic schooled person, we were of course always taught it was the one true religion built upon St. Peter as a direct linage to Jesus Christ. Sounded good. They had plenty of books to back that up.

First grade in Catholic school and I was already confused by that teaching because all my neighborhood friends were of other religions. They seemed fine to me.

There was only 11 more years of confusion to go. But it did teach me a lot about religions and man.

The National Catholic Register attempts to answer that question on Protestant denominations. The 33,000 figure has been widely debunked in many places. NCR holds there are hundreds or thousands.

They have an interesting article on that:
ncregister.com

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2018 • 10:59:16am

re: #343 ObserverArt

How do devout Jews see that use of “Judaism” if they are Christians? Do they acknowledge them as Jews at all, or ignore them as non-Jews?

They are regarded as apostates.

This does not apply to Jewish atheists, who are regarded as simply non-observant.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:00:03am
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ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:03:31am

re: #347 The Vicious Babushka

They are regarded as apostates.

This does not apply to Jewish atheists, who are regarded as simply non-observant.

I was reading some of the Wiki page on Messianic Judaism and it seems they are all over the place in thinking.

I guess I’ll mark that down as a cafeteria religion. Pick and choose what you believe or reject and pile it on your tray.

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Charmingly Persistent  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:05:29am

re: #343 ObserverArt

How do devout Jews see that use of “Judaism” if they are Christians? Do they acknowledge them as Jews at all, or ignore them as non-Jews?

From pasr expereince I think it involves the word “shonde”.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:05:37am

re: #340 The Vicious Babushka

“Messianic Judaism” = a Jew who has converted to Christianity.

I think many of then are Christians pretending that they were once Jewish.

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ipsos  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:05:43am

re: #286 Anymouse 🌹

It violates the US Flag Code. The Code has no enforcement mechanism.

This would be a fun thing for Democrats to try to fix when we return to power.

Granted, there would be significant First Amendment issues, but watching the opposition pretzel itself into logical twists would be worth the price of admission.

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freetoken  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:06:05am

The malevolent religion makes people come up with all sorts of excuses for their bad behavior:

If y’all recall, yesterday I wrote about the problem of the wife of the former chief of staff of Patterson, who published private letters.

Well, now she has printed this excuse:

Image: DexA-ZmUcAA9fiH.jpg

Note in the first claim she says she did nothing wrong because she was given copies of the private letters but did not handle the private letters herself.

As if publishing copies of private letters is different than publishing private letters herself. It’s still unethical.

Then she goes on to justify her actions because she is defending Patterson, who she still thinks did nothing wrong.

It’s exactly this type of searing of the conscience that allows these people to support Trump.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:07:32am

Thought of tweeting this:

Donald Trump is the Chinese water torture of presidents.

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ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:09:26am

re: #346 Anymouse 🌹

The National Catholic Register attempts to answer that question on Protestant denominations. The 33,000 figure has been widely debunked in many places. NCR holds there are hundreds or thousands.

They have an interesting article on that:
ncregister.com

I guess I now have another way to think about what the Tower of Babel story really means.

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dangerman  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:10:54am

re: #322 Backwoods_Sleuth

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but we should have been told that Comey and the boys were doing a number on him =
- we didn’t vet him
- we didn’t hire only the best people

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ipsos  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:12:14am

re: #303 Anymouse 🌹

Exception who proves the rule.

— —
Dragging the press in ten tweets:

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Well, we know why the supermarket tabloids are treating her with kid gloves - they are owned by AMI, which is a staunch Trump ally.

(Which is a very not normal thing, but that’s our new reality)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:19:07am

re: #353 freetoken

I for one have no problem with the members of the Southern Baptist Convention stabbing each other in the back over this. That organisation has exercised far too much power over our political discourse.

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sagehen  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:20:03am

re: #343 ObserverArt

How do devout Jews see that use of “Judaism” if they are Christians? Do they acknowledge them as Jews at all, or ignore them as non-Jews?

If you’re born a Jew, the only way to become Not A Jew is to affirmatively, deliberately, become a Christian or Muslim.

There are Buddhist Jews, we’re fine with that. Atheist Jews, not a problem. There’s “we’re ashamed of them and embarrassed by them and wish they weren’t Jews but we’re stuck with them” Jews (e.g., Madoff), still Jews.

But anyone who declare for Team Jesus or Team Muhammed… is no longer a Jew.

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freetoken  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:23:07am

re: #358 Anymouse 🌹

The whole “I seek God’s approval alone” is the clincher about that person (i.e., wife of Patterson’s c.o.s.). That phrase is a clear sign that one is dealing with someone in conflict with their society but unwilling to own up to it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:24:53am

re: #357 ipsos

Well, we know why the supermarket tabloids are treating her with kid gloves - they are owned by AMI, which is a staunch Trump ally.

(Which is a very not normal thing, but that’s our new reality)

Well, there is other stuff.

Weekly World News has the top-hitting story today:

National Mud Day (more at the link):

President Trump declares April 14th - National Mud Day!

Thousands of of kids across America celebrated President Trump’s first National Mud Day.

The President thought it would be fun for kids across America if they could play in the mud for a few days.

362
freetoken  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:27:11am

British tabloids have found a story that interests them about America:

Where’s Melania? Concerns for Donald Trump’s wife as she’s not seen for 23 days

I’m withholding judgement over this whole Melania thing, as to why she went dark, until she actually appears, or speaks for herself (and those tweets are not her.)

363
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:30:23am
364
William Lewis  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:30:37am

re: #351 I Would Prefer Not To

I think many of then are Christians pretending that they were once Jewish.

I find my understanding of Christianity and Jesus teaching to be profoundly influenced by what I have learned about Judaism (torah, mishnah, pirke avot, a Jewish commentary on the New Testament) but that does not make me Jewish. I am just another Christian. The man who I consider the messiah was a good Jew though. I hope that makes a bit of sense?

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blueraven  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:30:45am

re: #315 Anymouse 🌹

The argument in that thread appears to be that the teen in question who stole the shoes was accompanied by another person who pulled a firearm out during the robbery.

If that is so, then the teen is also guilty of armed robbery (even though he didn’t have a weapon).

Yes, the two cases are apples and oranges. I think we have to be consistent about gun violence. But, the problem here is that the young man was 15 years old and charged as an adult.

His age should have been more of a consideration with some harsh consequence but alternative to prison time. I think had he been a white kid, the results would have been more of a slap on the wrist, which is sad…See: school shooters. Almost always white male teens. Also, Giuliani’s daughter was a grown woman at 21. One day Community service? Yeah, rich white privilege.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:33:10am

re: #362 freetoken

Agreed. If she is feeling good, why not record a brief video for everyone to calm down the speculation?

Or a quick photo op or something.

367
jeffreyw  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:35:55am
368
Belafon  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:35:58am

re: #360 freetoken

I seek God’s approval alone

“Yeah, don’t blame God for your being a horrible human being.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:36:31am

re: #365 blueraven

Yes, the two cases are apples and oranges. I think we have to be consistent about gun violence. But, the problem here is that the young man was 15 years old and charged as an adult.

His age should have been more of a consideration with some harsh consequence but alternative to prison time. I think had he been a white kid, the results would have been more of a slap on the wrist, which is sad…See: school shooters. Almost always white male teens. Also, Giuliani’s daughter was a grown woman at 21. One day Community service? Yeah, rich white privilege.

I don’t know enough about the case of the stolen shoes to have an informed opinion, nor of Giuliani’s daughter’s case. I do know there are vast disparities in sentencing around the country for equivalent crimes.

I’m pretty sure, for example, that a written warning I got for speeding on US-30 one mile inside Nebraska from Wyoming (75 in a 60) probably would have been far worse If I wasn’t white, local resident, with Gold Star Family plates on my car and “veteran” on my license (despite my long hair and trilby hat).

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:39:58am

re: #366 Eclectic Cyborg

Agreed. If she is feeling good, why not record a brief video for everyone to calm down the speculation?

Or a quick photo op or something.

THEY LOVE TO FUCK WITH US.

They also want to say that the press is always wrong and therefore Trump is not guilty, etc, etc.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:42:20am

In local news, a La Grange, Wyoming sixth grader won the National Cursive Writing Competition.

starherald.com

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:49:12am

373
Belafon  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:50:59am

Anyone else catch FLCL Progressive last night?

374
Citizen K  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:52:45am

re: #373 Belafon

Anyone else catch FLCL Progressive last night?

I got it recorded, I still need to set myself down and watch it though.

375
Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:56:09am

It’s been about a month since the last obligatory liberal letter in my regional newspaper. Time to limber up my “letter to the editor pen” over this bit of derp:

starherald.com

Sadly, as we honor the real heroes of America, the men and women who gave their lives for this country, the NFL leaders got it wrong again.

The league, once again, refused to strap on their backbone and take control of player behavior during the playing of the national anthem.

Instead of fining and banning the overpaid disrespects of our flag and our country from the game, the league opted to fine the team owners. How stupid is that?

If they really want to get the “players” attention, fine them heavily at the first offense, and ban them from the “game” at the second.

Yeah, dude, you don’t speak for the men and women who gave their lives for the country.

I’m getting very tired of the dishonesty of conservatives over the meaning of the protests.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:58:07am

re: #372 I Would Prefer Not To

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Carrey is wrong about vaccines but he’s right about his.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 11:59:16am

re: #375 Anymouse 🌹

It’s been about a month since the last obligatory liberal letter in my regional newspaper. Time to limber up my “letter to the editor pen” over this bit of derp:

starherald.com

Yeah, dude, you don’t speak for the men and women who gave their lives for the country.

I’m getting very tired of the dishonesty of conservatives over the meaning of the protests.

You need to write not just as a veteran here. I’m tired of this too. This isn’t Nazi Germsny.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:02:32pm

re: #377 HappyWarrior

You need to write not just as a veteran here. I’m tired of this too. This isn’t Nazi Germsny.

It’s not Nazi Germany, either. /s

I intend to write. I just need to compose it and keep it under 250 words (though last month they let me go far longer in a letter).

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:11:27pm

re: #378 Anymouse 🌹

It’s not Nazi Germany, either. /s

I intend to write. I just need to compose it and keep it under 250 words (though last month they let me go far longer in a letter).

Yeah do that please.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:13:56pm
381
BigPapa  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:16:18pm

re: #380 Charles Johnson

Twitter, you suck. They’re not getting any better at this.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:21:12pm

re: #380 Charles Johnson

Wow there is serious whinging going on about Amy Mek there, trying to somehow magic balance fairy that against David Duke. The claim being he “outed” Amy Mek and got her hub fired.

383
Patricia Kayden  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:21:30pm

re: #372 I Would Prefer Not To

Carrey is keeping it real. I guess it took Trump to make him political.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:27:12pm

Conservatives on Twitter still don’t seem to get that if you’re a racist and you’re fired it’s your fault.

Racism is not a protected job class.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:28:02pm

re: #348 The Vicious Babushka

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Yes, I’m sure Mueller is shaking in his boots at Rudy’s every stupid pronouncement.

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Belafon  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:28:49pm

re: #385 Patricia Kayden

Yes, I’m sure Mueller is shaking in his boots at Rudy’s every stupid pronouncement.

I’m sure Mueller’s got someone taking notes.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:29:16pm

re: #384 Anymouse 🌹

Conservatives on Twitter still don’t seem to get that if you’re a racist and you’re fired it’s your fault.

Racism is not a protected job class.

It’s quite telling who Conservatives rally around. Yet, they expect people of color to vote with and for them.

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ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:33:44pm

re: #384 Anymouse 🌹

Conservatives on Twitter still don’t seem to get that if you’re a racist and you’re fired it’s your fault.

Racism is not a protected job class.

Damn you liberals, you protect everyone else…like gays, ‘them’ people, women getting abortions…Hollywood. Why can’t you protect us racists? We are people too!!!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:35:58pm

re: #384 Anymouse 🌹

Conservatives on Twitter still don’t seem to get that if you’re a racist and you’re fired it’s your fault.

Racism is not a protected job class.

My fear is that are going to try and make it one.

390
Patricia Kayden  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:36:58pm

re: #327 JordanRules

So how much has the Republican Party shrank since November 2016? That would be good to know when we see polls showing that Trump’s approval rating among Republicans is nearly 90%. The base will NEVER reject him as long as he keeps pushing bigoted policies.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:38:40pm

All the bashing of Luke O’Brien appears to stem from the article in the Huffington Post he wrote about Amy Mekelburg:

huffingtonpost.com

This is the “doxxing” they are complaining about. A reporter identifying a mysterious account on Twitter.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:39:45pm

re: #389 I Would Prefer Not To

My fear is that are going to try and make it one.

In a sense they are with their “religious freedom” bills—that would include the religious freedom to be a racist.

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delilah  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:44:38pm

re: #390 Patricia Kayden

Good point. Here’s party affiliation percentages, according to Gallup.

394
delilah  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:50:56pm

re: #327 JordanRules

The percentage of independents has risen by 7 points since November 2016, according to Gallup.

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ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:59:39pm

re: #391 Anymouse 🌹

All the bashing of Luke O’Brien appears to stem from the article in the Huffington Post he wrote about Amy Mekelburg:

huffingtonpost.com

This is the “doxxing” they are complaining about. A reporter identifying a mysterious account on Twitter.

Just read the linked Amy Mek story. I thought some of that sounded familiar. When I saw the killer’s name it hit me.

The “stripper” that was mentioned in the article that was killed by Paul Cortez, Catherine Woods, was the daughter of the former director of the Ohio State University marching band. So, it was big news at OSU and around Columbus.

She had the classic dreams of going to New York to work as a dancer, etc. in theatrical work. I think she was a trained dancer/ballerina. She worked as an exotic dancer (not really a stripper from what the word was around Columbus) to make a go of things and met up with Cortez.

My understanding is it was a pretty clearly proven case. Weird knowing that Amy “Mek” fell into supporting Cortez. And it then gets stranger. Wow.


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