An Unusual Saturday Night Tiny Desk Jam: Third Coast Percussion

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May 29, 2018 | Tom Huizenga — Back at the beginning of time, the human voice was the very first instrument. Probably close in second place were folks banging on stuff – in other words, percussionists. The quartet of gentlemen who form the Chicago-based Third Coast Percussion takes primordial pounding into a completely distinctive new league. To be sure, in this Tiny Desk performance, they’ll play their sophisticated, modern marimbas and vibraphones, but be on the lookout for the subtleties of tuned cowbells and 3/4” galvanized steel pipes, like those found at the local hardware store. Add to that a glockenspiel, a MIDI synth, a melodica, a drum kit, children’s deskbells, crotales, a Thai gong and a singing bowl, and you’ve got significant noise-making potential behind Bob Boilen’s desk.

The mesmerizing opening number, “Niagara,” written by the group, is from the band’s latest album, the aqua-centric Paddle to the Sea. This water is fast-moving, with pulsing, repeating patterns in the vibraphone, punctuated by drum beats and a bed of low synth. The Third Coasters follow with another from the album, their own arrangement of a slowly rippling ode to the Amazon River by Philip Glass. Beginning with droplets on the glockenspiel and evocative bowing of both vibraphone and crotales (small bronze discs), the music flows softly, taking its time to fan out in all its quiet beauty.

Torched and Wrecked is, as David Skidmore mentions, something that once happened to his band mate Sean Connors’ automobile. It’s also a butt-kicking ride that includes those steel conduit pipes, which the band cuts to specific lengths to get the desired pitches. Skidmore wrote the piece, but it’s Connors who appears to achieve a kind of cathartic glee pounding on the metal tubes.

In these performances the musicians prove that there’s far more to a top-notch percussion ensemble than pounding on stuff. The precision and the subtlety of their soft tapping, bowing and conjuring of otherworldly sounds raises this ancient art to the highest level.

SET LIST
“Niagara”
“Amazon River” (Phillip Glass)
“Torched and Wrecked”
MUSICIANS
David Skidmore, Robert Dillon, Peter Martin, Sean Connors.

CREDITS
Producers: Tom Huizenga, Morgan Noelle Smith; Creative Director: Bob Boilen; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Morgan Noelle Smith, Nick Michael, CJ Riculan; Production Assistant: Stefanie Fernández; Photo: Claire Harbage/NPR.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 9, 2018 • 9:10:03pm

From the previous thread:

re: #346 freetoken

Nope, not going to buy you a subscription to The Economist or any other periodical (though you might try investigating some source of support, which various foundations have for libraries.)

The last foundation which gave our library anything was the Gates Foundation about fifteen years ago, which gave our library two computers.

Grants have pretty much dried up for libraries. I can’t count the number my wife applied for. She got none. (Well, she got one, a safety grant to make the library’s shelving ADA compliant. No grants for books, periodicals, or computer equipment. The GOP intentionally fouled up the small library computer grant service from the FCC.)

I suppose I could change my subscription to The Economist from my house to the library; that way more people could read it.

If someone is interested in donating to a public library to provide something other than hard-right information in the media, please send subscriptions to:

Broadwater Public Library
251 N Starr St
PO Box 91
Broadwater, NE 69125-0091

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Dave In Austin  Jun 9, 2018 • 9:16:39pm

At this point with no one on point….. I would say yes. I think Joe would be the best at getting things back in track.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 9, 2018 • 9:22:43pm

I’m gonna head off to bed. It’s always a pleasure to chat with people here; I always learn something new here.

I do what I can to promote Mr. Johnson’s Home for the Sane and Respectable to those I know who have Internet access. (As far as I know none have subscribed, but perhaps some are reading the site.)

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freetoken  Jun 9, 2018 • 9:23:45pm

re: #1 Anymouse 🌹

I guess we’re fortunate that the County of San Diego has a budget item for county libraries. As for me, I pay fines every long once in a while, so other than my tax money that is my financial contribution.

However, looking at the County budget, there really isn’t anything in their for acquisitions (the budget covers buildings, salaries, etc.) So I guess acquisitions are done by donation.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 9, 2018 • 9:28:21pm

I’m in the wilderness right now.

What are the current Netflix/Amazon choices? I finished up Peaky Blinders last week (Fucking Awesome series)

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jaunte  Jun 9, 2018 • 9:30:14pm
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freetoken  Jun 9, 2018 • 9:43:13pm

re: #5 Dave In Austin

I’m in the wilderness right now.

What are the current Netflix/Amazon choices? I finished up Peaky Blinders last week (Fucking Awesome series)

Prime has the original BBC TV adaptation of The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.

Prime also has all of The Lexx series, for those wanting niche SciFi with the occasional soft-porn scenes…

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jeffreyw  Jun 9, 2018 • 9:48:56pm

re: #5 Dave In Austin

I’m in the wilderness right now.

What are the current Netflix/Amazon choices? I finished up Peaky Blinders last week (Fucking Awesome series)

Fauda is pretty good, Ministry of Time is worth watching, Narcos, Ozark, Halt and Catch Fire, Vikings - all good.

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jeffreyw  Jun 9, 2018 • 9:50:35pm

re: #8 jeffreyw

Fauda is pretty good, Ministry of Time is worth watching, Narcos, Ozark, Halt and Catch Fire, Vikings - all good.

Altered Carbon is a must see.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 9, 2018 • 9:51:38pm

re: #9 jeffreyw

I tried on that….

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jeffreyw  Jun 9, 2018 • 9:51:56pm

re: #9 jeffreyw

Altered Carbon is a must see.

Godless is great, as is Four Seasons in Havana

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jeffreyw  Jun 9, 2018 • 9:53:55pm

re: #10 Dave In Austin

I tried on that….

Mindhunter, Black Mirror, Man in the High Castle

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jeffreyw  Jun 9, 2018 • 9:55:42pm

re: #12 jeffreyw

Mindhunter, Black Mirror, Man in the High Castle

Hell on Wheels

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retired cynic  Jun 9, 2018 • 9:56:15pm

re: #13 jeffreyw

Hell on Wheels

I’m making a list!

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jeffreyw  Jun 9, 2018 • 10:00:04pm

re: #13 jeffreyw

Hell on Wheels

Person of Interest
Goliath, Bosch (on Amazon)

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fern01  Jun 9, 2018 • 10:00:37pm

re: #2 Dave In Austin

At this point with no one on point….. I would say yes. I think Joe would be the best at getting things back in track.

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Just no. If he wanted the gig, he should have run against Hilary. He has never won a primary and never stood out from the others. I thought he was a reasonable VP but was very disappointed when his committee re gun controls got 100% nowhere. He continues to this day to talk about a bipartisan Senate which disappeared the day President Obama was elected.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 9, 2018 • 10:01:53pm

re: #16 fern01

Ideas?

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jeffreyw  Jun 9, 2018 • 10:02:02pm

re: #14 retired cynic

I’m making a list!

Electric Dreams, Fortitude

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sauceruney  Jun 9, 2018 • 10:05:34pm

re: #5 Dave In Austin

I’m in the wilderness right now.

What are the current Netflix/Amazon choices? I finished up Peaky Blinders last week (Fucking Awesome series)

Gantz-0 on Netflix is a good and interesting CGI sci-fi movie about people being brought back to life to fight alien monsters.

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jeffreyw  Jun 9, 2018 • 10:10:25pm

re: #18 jeffreyw

Electric Dreams, Fortitude

The Night Manager

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jeffreyw  Jun 9, 2018 • 10:14:12pm

re: #20 jeffreyw

The Night Manager

Banshee (Amazon)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 9, 2018 • 10:16:35pm

Watch what happens if the Canadian trade war escalates and they reduce the amount of electricity going to the US.

Wouldn’t bother Trump since it hurts blue states the most…

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jeffreyw  Jun 9, 2018 • 10:18:39pm

re: #10 Dave In Austin

I tried on that….

Altered Carbon? I read the books so I had some background to get me over the hump although I thought the explication in the series was pretty good.

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teleskiguy  Jun 9, 2018 • 10:29:06pm

Hey did I tell y’all how awesome the Ween shows at Red Rocks were?

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teleskiguy  Jun 9, 2018 • 10:32:05pm

That thing he does with his hands. Bob Cesca commented on it in his last podcast.

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teleskiguy  Jun 9, 2018 • 10:33:16pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 9, 2018 • 10:37:15pm
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sauceruney  Jun 9, 2018 • 10:37:16pm

re: #26 teleskiguy

I just realized that the purse/handbag industry is part of the patriarchy keeping useful pockets out of women’s clothing.

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teleskiguy  Jun 9, 2018 • 10:40:04pm

re: #28 sauceruney

I just realized that the purse/handbag industry is part of the patriarchy keeping useful pockets out of women’s clothing.

Giphy

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Cheechako  Jun 9, 2018 • 10:52:22pm

re: #25 teleskiguy

That thing he does with his hands. Bob Cesca commented on it in his last podcast.

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When ever I see “trump the Terrible” make that trump little hand sign, I think he’s secretly signaling someone that he wants grab their vagina.

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teleskiguy  Jun 9, 2018 • 10:58:27pm

re: #30 Cheechako

When ever I see “trump the Terrible” make that trump little hand sign, I think he’s secretly signaling someone that he wants grab their vagina.

MY COCK IS THIS BIG AROUND

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 9, 2018 • 10:59:48pm

re: #31 teleskiguy

Not with Trump.

It’s so tiny you would need to use the Mt. Palomar telescope to detect it.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 9, 2018 • 11:09:59pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jun 9, 2018 • 11:13:46pm
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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 9, 2018 • 11:16:21pm

re: #27 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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teleskiguy  Jun 9, 2018 • 11:22:33pm

Refrigerator trucks will be waiting at Changi Airport on Sunday to receive the cargo flight, Singapore’s Straits Times newspaper reported, saying the plane is believed to be carrying food items as well as several luxury cars to escort the North Korean leader.

The Il-76 cannot fly more than 3,000 km (1,860 miles) without refuelling if carrying a full load. It was expected to stop off at a friendly location on the way to Singapore, which is 4,700 km (2,920 miles) from Pyongyang’s Sunan airport, or fly with a reduced load.

The Il-76, originally designed for moving heavy machinery to remote parts of the Soviet Union, is big enough to fit a school bus or two shipping containers inside it, according to passenger and cargo flight operator Antarctic Logistics & Expeditions.

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teleskiguy  Jun 9, 2018 • 11:40:25pm

Super 70s Sports Twitter is always on point.

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teleskiguy  Jun 9, 2018 • 11:45:04pm
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TedStriker  Jun 9, 2018 • 11:46:59pm

re: #38 teleskiguy

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Trump: “You can’t make me do anything…NYAH NYAH!”

Notice Walrus-Man Bolton trying to back his boss Trump up by giving his best Scooby-Doo villain scowl.

It sucks to have unrepentant shitheads like that representing us.

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teleskiguy  Jun 9, 2018 • 11:50:15pm

re: #39 TedStriker

AND I WOULD’VE GOTTEN AWAY WITH IT TOO! IF IT WEREN’T FOR THAT DAMNED SPECIAL COUNCIL ROBERT MUELLER!!!

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TedStriker  Jun 9, 2018 • 11:51:09pm

re: #40 teleskiguy

AND I WOULD’VE GOTTEN AWAY WITH IT TOO! IF IT WEREN’T FOR THAT DAMNED SPECIAL COUNCIL ROBERT MUELLER!!!

I’d pay real money to see that happen.

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Kragar  Jun 9, 2018 • 11:52:21pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 10, 2018 • 12:09:57am

So I see that Kim Jong-un is using an IL-76; that’s a mighty big plane. I’ve seen one over my apartment on its way to nearby Mošnov Airport (an old Warsaw Pact military base now used as an international airport, known for its runway, which can accommodate the Antonov AN-225…..and the Boeing 747).

Aside from bringing Kim’s usual swag, maybe Kim’s gonna do some shopping while he’s in Singapore.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 10, 2018 • 12:13:53am

Russian spies?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 12:35:37am

re: #38 teleskiguy

Our president, the petulant child.

All a matter of perspective: to supporters it is “Our President, the Resolute American standing up for his Nation’s Interests using his advanced negotiating skills and business acumen.”

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teleskiguy  Jun 10, 2018 • 12:48:55am
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Dave In Austin  Jun 10, 2018 • 1:33:25am

Hmmm
Fire alarm just went off.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 1:40:03am

re: #48 Big Beautiful Door

Trump and Peter Navarro are planning to escalate Trump’s trade war to encompass imported cars.

do they forget how many foreign companies manufacture their cars in the US?

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Dave In Austin  Jun 10, 2018 • 1:49:14am

re: #49 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I heard asshole has a hardon for German cars

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 10, 2018 • 1:49:22am

re: #49 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

do they forget how many foreign companies manufacture their cars in the US?

As VW, and MBZ and Toyota and Honda and whatnot shutter their plants in (red state) America, Trump will blame Obama, Hillary Clinton and of course, the Deep State when tens of thousands of American workers find themselves on the unemployment line.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 10, 2018 • 2:06:06am

re: #51 Dr Lizardo

As VW, and MBZ and Toyota and Honda and whatnot shutter their plants in (red state) America, Trump will blame Obama, Hillary Clinton and of course, the Deep State when tens of thousands of American workers find themselves on the unemployment line.

I’ve noticed that no-one has pointed out that Trump’s lies about the economy contradict each other. On the one hand, he claims we have the best economy ever, but on the other he claims the US is being robbed blind due to terrible trade deals. Foreign trade is such a big part of the economy that both of these claims can’t be true. So which is a lie? This is a trick question, since both claims are lies.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 2:09:06am

re: #52 Big Beautiful Door

I’ve noticed that no-one has pointed out that Trump’s lies about the economy contradict each other. On the one hand, he claims we have the best economy ever, but on the other he claims the US is being robbed blind due to terrible trade deals. Foreign trade is such a big part of the economy that both of these claims can’t be true. So which is a lie? This is a trick question, since both claims are lies.

I pointed this our repeatedly yesterday: he makes false, unfounded or unverifiable claims and nobody calls him out on it or forces him to offer proof or verification or even explanation of what he means.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 10, 2018 • 2:11:53am

re: #53 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I pointed this our repeatedly yesterday: he makes false, unfounded or unverifiable claims and nobody calls him out on it or forces him to offer proof or verification or even explanation of what he means.

Good, though the national media has not pointed this out, that I have noticed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 2:18:36am

re: #54 Big Beautiful Door

Good, though the national media has not pointed this out, that I have noticed.

People here notice it, but if the WH Press Corps was doing its job, they would simply refuse to report on anything he says that is clearly unverifiable, contradictory or false.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 10, 2018 • 2:22:04am

re: #55 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People here notice it, but if the WH Press Corps was doing its job, they would simply refuse to report on anything he says that is clearly unverifiable, contradictory or false.

Or at least point that that its unverifiable, contradictory, or false, if not all three.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 2:25:34am

re: #56 Big Beautiful Door

Or at least point that that its unverifiable, contradictory, or false, if not all three.

And his ongoing claims that “this deal is the worst” or “my people are the best”…nobody calls him out on statements like that and asks him what grounds they are based on…or SHS gets up afterwards and “explains” to us what he must have meant.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 10, 2018 • 2:32:14am

re: #57 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And his ongoing claims that “this deal is the worst” or “my people are the best”…nobody calls him out on statements like that and asks him what grounds they are based on…or SHS gets up afterwards and “explains” to us what he must have meant.

Trump’s tweets and public statements are a firehose of bullshit.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 10, 2018 • 2:33:01am

The fire rises.

Arron Banks met with officials between November 2015 and 2017, according to the documents.

Arron Banks, the millionaire businessman who bankrolled Nigel Farage’s campaign to quit the EU, had multiple meetings with Russian embassy officials in the run-up to the Brexit referendum, documents seen by the Observer suggest.

Banks, who gave £12m of services to the campaign, becoming the biggest donor in UK history, has repeatedly denied any involvement with Russian officials, or that Russian money played any part in the Brexit campaign. The Observer has seen documents which a senior Tory MP says, if correct, raise urgent and troubling questions about his relationship with the Russian government.

The communications suggest:

• Multiple meetings between the leaders of leave.eu and high-ranking Russian officials, from November 2015 to 2017.

• Two meetings in the week leave.eu launched its official campaign.

• An introduction to a Russian businessman, by the Russian ambassador, the day after leave.eu launched its campaign, who reportedly offered Banks a multibillion dollar opportunity to buy Russian goldmines.

• A trip to Moscow in February 2016 to meet key partners and financiers behind a gold project, including a Russian bank.

• Continued extensive contact in the run-up to the US election when Banks, his business partner and leave.eu spokesman Andy Wigmore, and Nigel Farage campaigned in the US to support Donald Trump’s candidacy.

And there’s more:

From November 2015, the ambassador, Alexander Yakovenko, courted Banks and Wigmore, inviting them to multiple events and meetings in the run-up to the European referendum, many of which, the documents suggest, they attended.

On 16 November, the documents suggest, Yakovenko invited them to an evening meeting at the Russian embassy. It is not clear if they attended but the next day, 17 November, leave.eu held its launch event - with Brittany Kaiser of Cambridge Analytica. And on 18 November, Banks and Wigmore again visited the embassy. On this occasion, the Russian ambassador introduced them to a Russian businessman with extensive business interests in Russian goldmines, according to documents seen by the Observer.

It is understood they were presented with a business opportunity in which they were offered a chance to invest in a plan to buy six Russian gold firms and merge them into a single entity, potentially netting a profit of several billion dollars.

Documents seen by the Observer suggest further meetings and discussions took place between the businessman and Banks and Wigmore, including a trip to Moscow in February 2016 during which Banks was scheduled to meet high-level officials from the state-owned bank.

And there’s this:

The invitations continued after the referendum during the time in which Banks, Wigmore and Farage began travelling regularly to America to support Donald Trump’s bid for the presidency, according to the documents.

Ambassador Yakovenko met Wigmore and Banks on 19 August, the day Steve Bannon became Trump’s campaign manager. It was days before they travelled to Mississippi with Nigel Farage for a rally on 25 August at which Donald Trump introduced him to the crowds as “Mr Brexit”. He said a Trump presidency would be “Brexit plus”.

And this, albeit from the Daily Mail:

Explosive new claims of Russian meddling in the Brexit referendum emerged last night as it was revealed that the millionaire who bankrolled the Leave campaign had a series of secret meetings with Vladimir Putin’s UK envoy.

Arron Banks had three meetings with Russian ambassador Alexander Yakovenko, fresh evidence shows, despite previously claiming to have had only a ‘boozy lunch’ with him.

Leaked emails written by Banks and his leave.eu right-hand-man Andy Wigmore - both close friends of ex-Ukip leader Nigel Farage - allegedly show they were in close contact with Russian officials throughout the referendum campaign and afterwards.

Former Ukip donor Mr Banks is also said to have given Russian officials telephone numbers for members of Donald Trump’s presidential transition team, just days after he and Mr Farage visited Trump Tower in the wake of the shock US election result.

dailymail.co.uk

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 2:38:18am

Putin’s agenda:

drive a wedge between UK and EU
drive a wedge between US and EU

Checkoff!!!

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ericblair  Jun 10, 2018 • 3:03:59am

re: #59 Dr Lizardo

• An introduction to a Russian businessman, by the Russian ambassador, the day after leave.eu launched its campaign, who reportedly offered Banks a multibillion dollar opportunity to buy Russian goldmines.

More of the excellent stuff being put out by Carole Cadwalladr and the Observer/Guardian. Essentially, this fuck was bribed by the Russians to be the biggest financial supporter of Brexit. Which then ties right into the Trump campaign.

Now, if you’re Theresa May, presiding over a fractured government supposedly in charge of Brexit, which is turning into an increasingly obvious disaster now linked to Russian corruption and materially to the Trump campaign, and who could legally push the abort button at any time on this whole mess, you would do…what?

Thing is, I don’t know what the hell she’ll do. On one hand, preventing an enormous disaster; on the other, not admitting you were wrong. Unfortunately, with conservatives they mostly go with door #2.

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Nyet  Jun 10, 2018 • 3:22:14am
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wheat-dogg  Jun 10, 2018 • 3:48:43am

re: #50 Dave In Austin

I heard asshole has a hardon for German cars

Maybe the BMW dealer turned down his loan application.

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Bubblehead II  Jun 10, 2018 • 4:09:16am

re: #63 wheat-dogg

Maybe the BMW dealer turned down his loan application.

Two words, one person

Angela Merkel

She has already been described as the new leader of the free world.

And you know that has really got to rub the yams ego raw.

With that, I am out the door heading to work. Have a good day Lizards.

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jeffreyw  Jun 10, 2018 • 4:21:47am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 10, 2018 • 4:52:31am

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sagehen  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:17:13am

re: #37 teleskiguy

Super 70s Sports Twitter is always on point.

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I’m more of a Seattle Slew fan.

(I didn’t like Affirmed, mostly because I disliked his jockey).

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sagehen  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:22:57am

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Putin’s agenda:

drive a wedge between UK and EU
drive a wedge between US and EU

Checkoff!!!

Checkoff? Or Chekhov?

Reminder of Chekhov’s Rule —
“If there’s a gun on the mantle in Act I, somebody’s going to be shot in Act III”

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:25:50am

re: #50 Dave In Austin

I heard asshole has a hardon for German cars

Fun facts: The company that exports the most American-built cars (by value) isn’t Ford and it’s not General Motors. It is BMW. (see here: bmwusfactory.com) The world’s largest BMW manufacturing is in South Carolina.

Mercedes (Daimler) is also in the top five exporters of American-built cars; indeed, the world’s second largest Mercedes factory is in Alabama, and the majority of MBZ’s purchased in the US are built in the US by American workers.

As always, the problem is that Trump is fucking ignorant of the facts. He’s shooting off his mouth, attacking German car companies and saying they should “build their cars here”, entirely clueless to the simple fact that they already are among the largest manufacturers in the U.S.

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ObserverArt  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:29:00am

Morning!

Looks like Trump the Lump has landed in Singapore.

They’re putting the ramp in place for him to deplane.

What is the fool going to pull?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:29:15am

re: #69 Dr Lizardo

As always, the problem is that Trump is fucking ignorant of the facts. He’s shooting off his mouth, attacking German car companies and saying they should “build their cars here”, entirely clueless to the simple fact that they already are among the largest manufacturers in the U.S.

This is where it is incumbent on his own party to call him out, but they are afraid to do so because elections are looming…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:29:36am

re: #69 Dr Lizardo

Fun facts: The company that exports the most American-built cars (by value) isn’t Ford and it’s not General Motors. It is BMW. (see here: bmwusfactory.com) The world’s largest BMW manufacturing is in South Carolina.

Mercedes (Daimler) is also in the top five exporters of American-built cars; indeed, the world’s second largest Mercedes factory is in Alabama, and the majority of MBZ’s purchased in the US are built in the US by American workers.

As always, the problem is that Trump is fucking ignorant of the facts. He’s shooting off his mouth, attacking German car companies and saying they should “build their cars here”, entirely clueless to the simple fact that they already are among the largest manufacturers in the U.S.

What Trump does so foolishly is ignore how truly global the economy really is. His stupidity is going to start impacting us in the pocket book. I do wonder how those BMW plant workers will feel if Trump starts threatening their livelihood.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:30:44am

re: #71 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is where it is incumbent on his own party to call him out, but they are afraid to do so because elections are looming…

Fact is Trump is more popular with the R base than Congressional Rs are. And that’s what motivates their political cowardice.

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ObserverArt  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:30:52am

re: #69 Dr Lizardo

Fun facts: The company that exports the most American-built cars (by value) isn’t Ford and it’s not General Motors. It is BMW. (see here: bmwusfactory.com) The world’s largest BMW manufacturing is in South Carolina.

Mercedes (Daimler) is also in the top five exporters of American-built cars; indeed, the world’s second largest Mercedes factory is in Alabama, and the majority of MBZ’s purchased in the US are built in the US by American workers.

As always, the problem is that Trump is fucking ignorant of the facts. He’s shooting off his mouth, attacking German car companies and saying they should “build their cars here”, entirely clueless to the simple fact that they already are among the largest manufacturers in the U.S.

I’ve commented before…Trump seems to be stuck in the time period of around 1980. His whole thinking and worldview is whatever was going on around that time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:31:54am

re: #70 ObserverArt

Morning!

Looks like Trump the Lump has landed in Singapore.

They’re putting the ramp in place for him to deplane.

What is the fool going to pull?

whatever it is, it will be spun a a huuuuuge win

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:33:45am

re: #71 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is where it is incumbent on his own party to call him out, but they are afraid to do so because elections are looming…

I think what accounts for a big part of the silence we’re witnessing from the GOP is that right now, it’s primary season and they’re especially sensitive to criticizing Trump because they are - quite bluntly - terrified of alienating their base.

It’s why they likely won’t turn on him before the November mid-terms, either; such a turn would cause the GOP base to sit out the mid-terms in protest. Trump still has high approval ratings with the base as well.

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ObserverArt  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:34:48am

re: #73 HappyWarrior

Fact is Trump is more popular with the R base than Congressional Rs are. And that’s what motivates their political cowardice.

I wonder what TeaParty AstroTurf installer Dick Armey thinks of the can of wormy conservatives he opened with that mess? He helped get conservative money to those groups to get them rolling and they have rolled over the entire party.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:35:04am

Trump either is ignorant of world commerce or is playing to his supporters who are. Nearly every manufactured item now is made of parts from all over the world. That’s called globalization. There are very few products other than food items that could be called 100 percent American, German or even Chinese.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:35:06am

re: #74 ObserverArt

I’ve commented before…Trump seems to be stuck in the time period of around 1980. His whole thinking and worldview is whatever was going on around that time.

I think that’s something he has in common with Sanders tbh. Both are stubborn old men that can’t accept a changed world.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:36:40am

Chewing gum is illegal in Singapore. I hope one of Trump’s contingent gets fined for it.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:39:12am

re: #78 wheat-dogg

Trump either is ignorant of world commerce or is playing to his supporters who are. Nearly every manufactured item now is made of parts from all over the world. That’s called globalization. There are very few products other than food items that could be called 100 percent American, German or even Chinese.

I think it’s both. Honestly, and this is unfortunate but there’s people on both sides that don’t understand world commerce or accept the changes. Aside from providing a black and white world view, I think that’s the one other area where Sanderism can intersect with Trumpism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:40:06am

re: #78 wheat-dogg

Trump either is ignorant of world commerce or is playing to his supporters who are. Nearly every manufactured item now is made of parts from all over the world. That’s called globalization. There are very few products other than food items that could be called 100 percent American, German or even Chinese.

a bit of both, I believe. And nobody around him dares even try to correct him on it

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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:40:29am

re: #80 wheat-dogg

Chewing gum is illegal in Singapore. I hope one of Trump’s contingent gets fined for it.

I wouldn’t complain if Stephen Miller got the Michael Fay treatment.

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sagehen  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:40:36am

re: #72 HappyWarrior

What Trump does so foolishly is ignore how truly global the economy really is. His stupidity is going to start impacting us in the pocket book. I do wonder how those BMW plant workers will feel if Trump starts threatening their livelihood.

If BMW and Mercedes move their plants to Canada, with a pointed explanation that Trump is why they’ve made that decision…

I’m going to laugh and laugh and laugh.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:40:55am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

a bit of both, I believe. And nobody around him dares even try to correct him on it

Because he doesn’t have advisers, he has yes men and women.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:41:16am

re: #84 sagehen

If BMW and Mercedes move their plants to Canada, with a pointed explanation that Trump is why they’ve made that decision…

I’m going to laugh and laugh and laugh.

Trump would probably try to declare war on Canada or some stupid shit.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:42:34am

re: #85 HappyWarrior

Because he doesn’t have advisers, he has yes men and women.

Trump is surrounded by sycophants and toadies. It’s impossible to get any honest or sincere advice from such people.

It’s made worse because by all accounts, Trump treats any criticism of him, no matter how mild, as a grievous personal insult.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:43:29am

re: #87 Dr Lizardo

Trump is surrounded by sycophants and toadies. It’s impossible to get any honest or sincere advice from such people.

It’s made worse because by all accounts, Trump treats any criticism of him, no matter how mild, as a grievous personal insult.

He has the worst temperament of any President I’ve ever seen or studied.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:47:11am

re: #88 HappyWarrior

He has the worst temperament of any President I’ve ever seen or studied.

He represents all the cussed bloody-minded contrarians out there who want to see someone like that causing chaos in their name

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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:50:07am

re: #89 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He represents all the cussed bloody-minded contrarians out there who want to see someone like that causing chaos in their name

There’s being a contrarian and then there’s just being a stubborn asshole who refuses to educate himself. He reminds me of the kind of person I knew in school who thought he was too good to actually learn the material.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:50:53am

re: #88 HappyWarrior

He has the worst temperament of any President I’ve ever seen or studied.

Yeah, like a small toddler throwing a temper tantrum because you won’t let him draw on the walls with his own feces.

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ObserverArt  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:51:07am

re: #85 HappyWarrior

Because he doesn’t have advisers, he has yes men and women.

And in a way, a yes-media.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:51:12am

Hillary warned everyone Trump could be triggered by a tweet. More than 60 million did not listen.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:52:21am

re: #92 ObserverArt

And in a way, a yes-media.

the media wants to stay on his good side because it brings in ratings

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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:57:55am

re: #92 ObserverArt

And in a way, a yes-media.

Oh yes, all those smug reporters who will give you shit if you say something and they go “This is why Trump won.” And you know what, even if that is true, maybe we should actually be blunt about Trump supporters instead of treating them with kid gloves.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:58:52am

re: #93 wheat-dogg

Hillary warned everyone Trump could be triggered by a tweet. More than 60 million did not listen.

She more than anyone running for President understood wny he would be a bad idea. Not Bernie, not O’Malley, and certainly not any of the Republicans running including some of those like Jeb or Kasich who didn’t endorse him.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 10, 2018 • 5:59:53am

Someone on CNN this morning said that Trump has been getting 2-hour-long briefings on NK every day for a couple of months. Either that’s true and the “I don’t need to prepare” was a way to prep for pretending he can pull things off sheerly through the force of his personality or it’s not true and he truly is unprepared. Either way, he’s greatly weakened by pushing allies away in Canada.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:00:38am

re: #95 HappyWarrior

Oh yes, all those smug reporters who will give you shit if you say something and they go “This is why Trump won.” And you know what, even if that is true, maybe we should actually be blunt about Trump supporters instead of treating them with kid gloves.

Trump won because of the Electoral system. Again, all he had to do was carry the states that the GOP carried in 2012 plus the Rust Belt states of MI, OH, WI and PA. He concentrated his efforts there and won those states by a thin margin, which gave him a victory despite a 3-million vote margin for the Democrats in the popular vote

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:00:42am

Oh, and Farage was on FnF this morning talking about Trump’s brilliant strategy to shove aside allies who are against Brexit.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:02:31am

re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump won because of the Electoral system. Again, all he had to do was carry the states that the GOP carried in 2012 plus the Rust Belt states of MI, OH, WI and PA. He concentrated his efforts there and won those states by a thin margin, which gave him a victory despite a 3-million vote margin for the Democrats in the popular vote

I know. I’m just saying we see Maggie and the rest of these dicks go “This is why Trump won” if you point out the bigotry that exists in Red America. Sucks for them that they refuse to join the 21st century and that’s really the essence of Trumpsim “La la la la I will not join an United States that is welcoming to all people regardless of race and I will not accept that the economy isn’t the economy of my father. And I want to be able to be a douche and not be called out on it.”

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wheat-dogg  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:03:24am

re: #96 HappyWarrior

She more than anyone running for President understood wny he would be a bad idea. Not Bernie, not O’Malley, and certainly not any of the Republicans running including some of those like Jeb or Kasich who didn’t endorse him.

Any New Yorker or New Jerseyite with half a brain could have said it, too. There’s a long list of people who have been stiffed, slurred or insulted by Trump. Is

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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:03:33am

re: #99 Barefoot Grin

Oh, and Farage was on FnF this morning talking about Trump’s brilliant strategy to shove aside allies who are against Brexit.

I forgot Nigel, is that why you have so much political clout in your own country? Is that why you’re spouting this on FnF rather than somewhere in Britain. You’re a feckless wanker dude. You may have won the battle with Brexit but you’re losing the war and that’s why you’re hiding out on a safe space on Fox.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:04:39am

re: #100 HappyWarrior

I want to be able to be a douche and not be called out on it.”

That is their interpretation of “freedom of speech”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:04:51am

re: #101 wheat-dogg

Any New Yorker or New Jerseyite with half a brain could have said it, too. There’s a long list of people who have been stiffed, slurred or insulted by Trump. Is

I’ll say it again because it bears repeating but the people who knew Trump the best rejected him soundly. The people who really only knew him from being King Birther and the Apprentice guy embraced him the most. I’m not a New Yorker and I’m only 30 but I remember Trump growing up since he was a celebrity. I always thought he was an obnoxious bore in love with himself.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:05:29am

re: #104 HappyWarrior

I’ll say it again because it bears repeating but the people who knew Trump the best rejected him soundly. The people who really only knew him from being King Birther and the Apprentice guy embraced him the most. I’m not a New Yorker and I’m only 30 but I remember Trump growing up since he was a celebrity. I always thought he was an obnoxious bore in love with himself.

Bingo!

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JordanRules  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:05:37am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:05:41am

We have a winner.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:05:54am

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is their interpretation of “freedom of speech”

Yep. They don’t understand that it’s freedom from government persecution but I have every right to call you a racist piece of shit if you act that way. Unfortunately, it’s been shifted to the people who call this shit out are “just as bad or worse.”

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ObserverArt  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:07:20am

I just heard Lester Holt repeat Trump’s line about “I’ve been preparing my whole life for this” summit.

How does that work if we are also to believe Trump ran for president to gain stature and bucks and was stunned to have won the election?

He knew he would meet with Kim the whole time he was hoping to have successful businesses that failed. He was planning to meet Kim when he started The Apprentice and shifted to being a huuuuge reality star.

The only thing Trump has been doing his whole life is conning people.

This may be his biggest and most dangerous con yet.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:09:51am

re: #109 ObserverArt

I just heard Lester Holt repeat Trump’s line about “I’ve been preparing my whole life for this” summit.

How does that work if we are also to believe Trump ran for president to gain stature and bucks and was stunned to have won the election?

He knew he would meet with Kim the whole time he was hoping to have successful business that failed. He was planning to meet Kim when he started The Apprentice and shifted to being a huuuuge reality star.

The only thing Trump has been doing his whole life is conning people.

This may be his biggest and most dangerous con yet.

I still think his most dangerous con is that he has the American people’s interests in mind. Nope, he has his and his family and Russia’s. He’ll badmouth Canada for the War of 1812 when Canada was a British colony no less but he’ll just let Russia aggression that happened during Putin’s rule pass.

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JordanRules  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:09:57am
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The Major  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:09:58am

re: #109 ObserverArt

This may be his biggest and most dangerous con yet.

Kim and the PRC’s President Xi are going to roll Trump like a drunk in an alley.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:10:55am

re: #69 Dr Lizardo

Fun facts: The company that exports the most American-built cars (by value) isn’t Ford and it’s not General Motors. It is BMW. (see here: bmwusfactory.com) The world’s largest BMW manufacturing is in South Carolina.

Mercedes (Daimler) is also in the top five exporters of American-built cars; indeed, the world’s second largest Mercedes factory is in Alabama, and the majority of MBZ’s purchased in the US are built in the US by American workers.

As always, the problem is that Trump is fucking ignorant of the facts. He’s shooting off his mouth, attacking German car companies and saying they should “build their cars here”, entirely clueless to the simple fact that they already are among the largest manufacturers in the U.S.

Trump will probably start demanding that Germany double the number of Pontiacs, Oldsmobiles, and Plymouths it imports from the US.

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ObserverArt  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:11:42am

re: #112 The Major

Kim and the PRC’s President Xi are going to roll Trump like a drunk in an alley.

I posted yesterday he might end up losing his wallet and pants.

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Teukka  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:11:46am

re: #109 ObserverArt

I just heard Lester Holt repeat Trump’s line about “I’ve been preparing my whole life for this” summit.

How does that work if we are also to believe Trump ran for president to gain stature and bucks and was stunned to have won the election?

He knew he would meet with Kim the whole time he was hoping to have successful business that failed. He was planning to meet Kim when he started The Apprentice and shifted to being a huuuuge reality star.

The only thing Trump has been doing his whole life is conning people.

This may be his biggest and most dangerous con yet.

[question type=rhethorical]
What happens when Kim Jong-Un recognizes he’s being conned?*
[/question]
*: Not that far-fetched, the North Koreans have been a suspicious people since Kim Il sung.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:12:25am

re: #112 The Major

Kim and the PRC’s President Xi are going to roll Trump like a drunk in an alley.

And like that drunk, Trump will wake up the next day with no memory of how it happened.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:13:39am

re: #114 ObserverArt

I posted yesterday he might end up losing his wallet and pants.

More likely they will hack his phone and gain access to his bank accounts.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:14:01am

re: #113 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

And Edsels.

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ObserverArt  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:15:56am

re: #117 wheat-dogg

More likely they will hack his phone and gain access to his bank accounts.

Haha.

You mean his Russian bank accounts.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:16:08am

re: #118 Ace Rothstein

And Edsels.

I saw an Edsel on the streets of Iruma Japan in 1972. I thought I was hallucinating. I never did find out the story behind this apparition, but it was definitely there and definitely an Edsel.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:16:18am

Remember this?

Trump told French President Emanuel Macron that a goal of his trade policies was to stop “Mercedez-Benz models from driving down Fifth Avenue in New York.”

The only thing I can think of is that Trump hates Merkel.

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ObserverArt  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:18:19am

re: #121 Ace Rothstein

Remember this?

The only thing I can think of is that Trump hates Merkel.

Trump hates everybody. Unless they can make him some money. And then that only lasts until the money runs out.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:19:19am

re: #67 sagehen

I’m more of a Seattle Slew fan.

(I didn’t like Affirmed, mostly because I disliked his jockey).

We’ll never know how fast Seattle Slew really was, because he was always just playing with them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:19:30am

re: #120 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I saw an Edsel on the streets of Iruma Japan in 1972. I thought I was hallucinating. I never did find out the story behind this apparition, but it was definitely there and definitely an Edsel.

I remember seeing one as a kid, musta been 1963 or ‘64…

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:19:32am

re: #121 Ace Rothstein

Remember this?

The only thing I can think of is that Trump hates Merkel.

He also has Peter Navarro whispering in his ear the nonsense that every dollar of reduced trade deficit automatically boosts the economy.

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JordanRules  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:20:42am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:20:46am

For the some reason the google doodle lets you use a trebuchet on garden gnomes.

I don’t know why.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:20:51am

re: #125 Big Beautiful Door

He also has Peter Navarro whispering in his ear the nonsense that every dollar of reduced trade deficit automatically boosts the economy.

recall that he does not even know the relative benefits/disadvantages of a weak vs a strong dollar

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:21:14am

re: #125 Big Beautiful Door

Trade deficits are not a bad thing. This fucking idiot views everything as zero-sum.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:22:26am

re: #121 Ace Rothstein

Well, what business does some bossy know it all woman (with a PhD in physical chemistry no less) have running a country? I mean shouldn’t she be raising children and cooking and being pretty? That’s half his fucking problem. He’s an old obnoxious dirty minded pervert that’s stuck in the 1850s. Women serve no purpose but what men say they do.

It’s rare that I have a physical reaction to people, he makes me cringe and want to throw things, to put it mildly. Yuck.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:23:31am

The Roger Moore/James Bond flick Man With the Golden Gun involved James stealing an AMC Hornet from an actual AMC dealership in Bangkok Thailand. This led to a chase that included the now-famous bridge roll scene.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:23:55am

re: #120 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I saw an Edsel on the streets of Iruma Japan in 1972. I thought I was hallucinating. I never did find out the story behind this apparition, but it was definitely there and definitely an Edsel.

I had a neighbor in the 80’s who had an Edsel. It was sitting under a tarp for a long time; then one day, it got moved into the garage.

A year and a half later, much to my surprise, it rolled out of the garage, in full working order. A week after that, it had a new paint job and looked showroom new.

An impressive restoration, to say the least.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:31:05am

re: #132 Dr Lizardo

I had a neighbor in the 80’s who had an Edsel. It was sitting under a tarp for a long time; then one day, it got moved into the garage.

A year and a half later, much to my surprise, it rolled out of the garage, in full working order. A week after that, it had a new paint job and looked showroom new.

An impressive restoration, to say the least.

And it remained as ugly as when it left the showroom floor.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:33:58am

re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember seeing one as a kid, musta been 1963 or ‘64…

I can beat that—I took my driver’s test in an Edsel. 1969.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:34:38am

Peter Navarro just said there’s a special place in hell for Justin Trudeau.

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I cannot.  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:36:34am

re: #135 Ace Rothstein

What the?

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:37:08am

re: #136 I cannot.

Also said that Trudeau stabbed Trump in the back.

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JordanRules  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:40:58am
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Ace Rothstein  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:43:25am

re: #137 Ace Rothstein

Also said that Trudeau stabbed Trump in the back.

Ahhhh, I see this is the new line coming out of the regime. Cokehead Kudlow said the same thing on CNN today.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:45:57am

re: #135 Ace Rothstein

re: #137 Ace Rothstein

*headdesk*

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:49:56am

re: #137 Ace Rothstein

Also said that Trudeau stabbed Trump in the back.

Remember that picture of Presidents Obama and Peña Nieto and PM Trudeau together? That almost gave me hope for the future. Almost. That’ll show me, I guess.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:50:54am

JFC, Jonah Goldberg is making sense. This is how twisted the world we live in is now.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:51:45am

re: #142 Ace Rothstein

Maybe he finally woke up.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:53:17am

re: #143 PhillyPretzel

Maybe he finally woke up.

It’s just that tRump has surpassed our previous benchmarks for stupidity.

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I cannot.  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:54:08am

re: #143 PhillyPretzel

I’m not sure if I want to contemplate the idea of a Woke Jonah, because that means…jesus, I have no idea WHAT it means, just that it’s hella bad.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:54:17am

re: #139 Ace Rothstein

Ahhhh, I see this is the new line coming out of the regime. Cokehead Kudlow said the same thing on CNN today.

It’s the same type of “logic” that claims Obama increased racial tensions in the US. There were a whole lotta white people that didn’t like a black man presidentin’ in the White House, so racial tensions went up, and in their twisted logic, that was Obama’s fault. What happened here was that Trudeau didn’t bend over backwards and immediately cave to Trump’s stupidity; therefore he stabbed the US in the back. That kind of thinking not only makes no sense, but to be quite honest, it’s dangerous as well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:57:13am

re: #146 Dr Lizardo

What happened here was that Trudeau didn’t bend over backwards and immediately cave to Trump’s stupidity; therefore he stabbed the US in the back. That kind of thinking not only makes no sense, but to be quite honest, it’s dangerous as well.

Because that is what has been happening here ever since the bastard got elected.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 10, 2018 • 6:57:26am

re: #144 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s just that tRump has surpassed our previous benchmarks for stupidity.

Trump has shifted the Stupidity Overton Window clear out to GN-z11.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:06:37am

One thing I’m going to say but I’m tired of the we need to understand Trump supporters. Was there anything at all on the right where they decided they needed to understand Obama voters or anything like that? No, they treated us with contempt. They accused us of voting for Obama just beacuse he was black. They accused us of wanting free stuff. But hey how dare those “liberal elites”, I hate that bullshit because the people who spread that bullshit are elites themselves point out that bigotry helped enable Trump’s rise.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:10:50am

re: #149 HappyWarrior

“Free stuff” never includes corporate bailouts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:11:39am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:12:08am

re: #150 Ace Rothstein

“Free stuff” never includes corporate bailouts.

Or assloads of military spending with no accountability.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:12:46am

re: #150 Ace Rothstein

“Free stuff” never includes corporate bailouts.

Or subsidies to corps making huge profits.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:13:56am

re: #152 HappyWarrior

Or forcing energy grids to purchase coal.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:14:30am

re: #149 HappyWarrior

They accused us of voting for Obama just beacuse he was black. They accused us of wanting free stuff.

I voted for him because I thought he was the better candidate.

There was a time (in 2000 when I was still a registered GOP voter) that I supported McCain in the nomination and might have voted for him in the general over Al Gore, whom I never really liked.

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ObserverArt  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:17:02am

re: #150 Ace Rothstein

“Free stuff” never includes corporate bailouts.

Nor all the damn money the richest supporters dump into the Republican politicians PACs and campaign organizations.

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sagehen  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:17:31am

re: #150 Ace Rothstein

“Free stuff” never includes corporate bailouts.

Or $300 checks from the Bush admin.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:20:09am

re: #138 JordanRules

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retired cynic  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:20:40am

re: #67 sagehen

I’m more of a Seattle Slew fan.

(I didn’t like Affirmed, mostly because I disliked his jockey).

I loved them all.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:20:50am

re: #153 Eventual Carrion

Or subsidies to corps making huge profits.

Or otherwise unnecessary infrastructure improvements because JERBZ!!!. I’ve lived my whole life in Boeingland, so I know how that works.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:22:06am

re: #158 GlutenFreeJesus

Good to finally see a picture of the results of the “handshake.”
Hmm it could a band-aid.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:27:05am

re: #153 Eventual Carrion

Or subsidies to corps making huge profits.

or allowing insurance companies to turn down pre-existing conditions

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:32:23am

re: #161 PhillyPretzel

Good to finally see a picture of the results of the “handshake.”
Hmm it could a band-aid.

nope…that’s the mark left by Macron’s thumb. Macron’s other fingers also left a huge mark at the other side of the yam’s hand.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:34:28am

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good. DT needs something like that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:35:45am

re: #164 PhillyPretzel

Good. DT needs something like that.

it seriously rankled his ego

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:38:09am

Can’t wait to see how Kim reacts when Trump starts yanking his arm.

On second thought. Trump will be totally subservient with the handshake.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:38:36am

on the subject of cars:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:39:45am

re: #166 GlutenFreeJesus

Can’t wait to see how Kim reacts when Trump starts yanking his arm.

On second thought. Trump will be totally subservient with the handshake.

yep…I believe that the G7 summit has left him seriously rattled.
The summit in Singapore is going to be an epic shitshow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:40:20am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:43:55am

re: #161 PhillyPretzel

Good to finally see a picture of the results of the “handshake.”
Hmm it could a band-aid.

here ya go:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:46:45am
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:46:55am

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hmm. It looks like he tried to move the pinkie finger knuckle and then squeeze down. That is something my kid sister does with me all the time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:48:23am
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JordanRules  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:49:04am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:49:57am

re: #174 JordanRules

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none of these people actually talk to each other, do they?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:50:41am

God look how fucked up Trump’s hair is too. His “sideburns” are so white, but the rest of his hair? hahaha Geez, what a mope.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:52:23am

re: #45 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

All a matter of perspective: to supporters it is “Our President, the Resolute American standing up for his Nation’s Interests using his advanced negotiating skills and business acumen.”

The freepers are orgasming over his attitude.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:52:29am

re: #174 JordanRules

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Somebody’s going to be out of a job when Cheetolini hears about this….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:52:36am

this thread. O_o

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ObserverArt  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:53:34am

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oops. Abby let’s go with a political Freudian slip.

Trump will want her fired!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:54:25am

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:56:09am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:56:57am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 10, 2018 • 7:57:02am

Not sure that burn will mellow into a tan…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:00:31am
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ObserverArt  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:01:50am

In honor of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau I am going to doubly-enjoy watching today’s Canadian Grand Prix race from Montreal!

If anyone is interested in some really fast hybrid race cars, the race is on ABC today. Pre-race at 1:30 PM. Race at 2!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:02:33am

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

Seriously? Going to the showers? Are you fucking kidding me, America? https://

It is being done in the name of “deterrence” and is seen as a good thing…

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JordanRules  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:05:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:06:02am
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steve_davis  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:07:27am

re: #5 Dave In Austin

I’m in the wilderness right now.

What are the current Netflix/Amazon choices? I finished up Peaky Blinders last week (Fucking Awesome series)

if you have access to AMC, you can get the Terror, as well as Hap and Leonard. Amazon currently has the full run of Inspector Lewis going. Those are damned good. Better than I even remembered them being at the time.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:09:14am

re: #149 HappyWarrior

One thing I’m going to say but I’m tired of the we need to understand Trump supporters. Was there anything at all on the right where they decided they needed to understand Obama voters or anything like that? No, they treated us with contempt. They accused us of voting for Obama just beacuse he was black. They accused us of wanting free stuff. But hey how dare those “liberal elites”, I hate that bullshit because the people who spread that bullshit are elites themselves point out that bigotry helped enable Trump’s rise.

The only understanding we need of them is politically tactical or strategic. How to marginalize them from the scene, political, social and especially cultural. They wanted a culture war, I’m not done till they cry.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:10:47am

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The black and white gives this the perfect Twilight Zone look.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:13:32am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:13:56am

re: #192 Unshaken Defiance

The black and white gives this the perfect Twilight Zone look.

before Donald wishes them all out into the cornfield and makes it snow

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steve_davis  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:14:07am

re: #36 teleskiguy

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This is where I really kind of wish like hell that both engines would blow out over the Pacific and that Kim’s phone would ring. “Dear Leader? Yes, this is the president of the United States (who in this reality would be Morgan Freeman). Remember when you sent Otto Warmbier back to us in a coma? Well, payback’s a bitch.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:15:31am
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:16:04am

re: #22 Joe Bacon 🌹

Watch what happens if the Canadian trade war escalates and they reduce the amount of electricity going to the US.

Wouldn’t bother Trump since it hurts blue states the most…

I don’t think Trudeau is going to do anything to hurt blue states. He understands the dynamics of the U.S. political stage and can easily make sure that any tariffs hit red states the hardest.

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JordanRules  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:17:20am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:17:50am

We’re going to get a photo of Trump and Kim shaking hands and smiling and a bunch of fawning tweets about him, aren’t we?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:18:04am

good grief

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:20:12am

re: #195 steve_davis

Turns out the Chinese loaned out the very same 747 the Chinese government uses, much like our AF1. Some detail here at The Drive.

It’s also worth noting that all the aircraft took what appeared to be carefully planned routes that kept them over Chinese territory for the maximum amount of time, with the minimal amount of time over water or in international airspace.

Meanwhile, Air Force One (VC-25A) has taken an interesting route to Singapore as well, flying east across the Atlantic and making a fuel stop in Souda Bay, Greece. This direction is longer than the polar route but doesn’t fly over Russia and China. Currently Air Force One is somewhere near India on its final leg to Singapore.

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retired cynic  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:23:50am

re: #120 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I saw an Edsel on the streets of Iruma Japan in 1972. I thought I was hallucinating. I never did find out the story behind this apparition, but it was definitely there and definitely an Edsel.

Probably heavy enough it served as ballast. (We had an Edsel, and it was a wonderful car!)

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:24:29am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:27:18am

re: #199 Eclectic Cyborg

We’re going to get a photo of Trump and Kim shaking hands and smiling and a bunch of fawning tweets about him, aren’t we?

Captioned “Authoritarians Celebrate Mutual Admirations”

I can’t believe we are about to suffer economic losses because of this idiot handing bloody noses to our friends and giving hand jobs to our enemies. And I won’t be able to blame Canada, or France or any still free state for acting on principle and necessity.

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JordanRules  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:29:18am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:30:03am

When this meeting with un goes south, Trump’s going to blame Truudeau for making him look weak.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:30:37am

re: #206 GlutenFreeJesus

When this meeting with un goes south, Trump’s going to blame Truudeau for making him look weak.

that will be implied, yes

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:31:28am

oh

Russian President Vladimir Putin criticized President Donald Trump’s decision to withdraw the United States from the Iran Nuclear deal in a speech Sunday.

Putin said the United State’s withdrawal could “destabilize the region” in the middle east according to the Associated Press and added Russia will continue to honor the deal.

Trump announced the U.S. would leave what he called the “horrible” Iran nuclear accord in May. The agreement, put into place in 2015 under President Barack Obama, lifted international economic sanctions against Iran in exchange for the country to limit its nuclear program. Trump called the deal “defective at its core.”

Despite this, Putin also said Sunday he’s ready to meet with Trump, “as soon as the U.S. side is ready.”

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:32:22am

Trump’s “Foreign Policy” since the beginning of his “reign (of terror)” has been to collect bribes. The bigger the bribe, the “better a friend” that country is. Jared’s official job title is “Lord High Collector Of Bribes”

Countries that refuse to give bribes get insulted on Twitter and slapped with tariffs on trade.

Qatar hesitated to pay the bribe (aka “protection money”) look what happened to them until they paid up.

China is exempt from the tariffs because ZTE paid the “protection money” & China paid the bribe in the form of trademarks for Ivanka.

How many emoluments crimes has the President committed already? Is there an online tracker somewhere?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:33:05am

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh

Trump announced the U.S. would leave what he called the “horrible” Iran nuclear accord in May. The agreement, put into place in 2015 under President Barack Obama, lifted international economic sanctions against Iran in exchange for the country to limit its nuclear program. Trump called the deal which he has never read even in excerpt form “defective at its core.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:33:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:33:40am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:33:49am

re: #211 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Always happens in 3s. :(

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:33:54am

re: #205 JordanRules

Didn’t Flake vote to strip millions of children of healthcare? The hypocrisy is astounding.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:35:49am

re: #205 JordanRules

Self-awareness is not Flakey’s strong suit.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:36:33am

re: #206 GlutenFreeJesus

And Obama, of course.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:36:45am

re: #206 GlutenFreeJesus

When this meeting with un goes south, Trump’s going to blame Truudeau for making him look weak.

Kudlow Blames Trudeau for ‘Betrayal’ Before North Korea Talks
bloomberg.com

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sagehen  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:37:27am

re: #209 The Vicious Babushka

China is exempt from the tariffs because ZTE paid the “protection money” & China paid the bribe in the form of trademarks for Ivanka.

Also, the Chinese govt “invested” $500 million in a Trump-branded project under development in Indonesia.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:37:48am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:38:51am

Brilliant idea

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JordanRules  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:47:16am
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JordanRules  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:50:05am

I just love Jaclyn’s smile.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:52:14am

re: #190 steve_davis

if you have access to AMC, you can get the Terror, as well as Hap and Leonard. Amazon currently has the full run of Inspector Lewis going. Those are damned good. Better than I even remembered them being at the time.

For comedy, there is a new season of Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:52:28am
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:53:06am

re: #222 JordanRules

Making voting a cool thing. I see some of the younger people who vote for the first time. Their family comes with them to the polling place and they take pictures of the whole process. They are very positive.

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JordanRules  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:54:28am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:56:47am

re: #226 JordanRules

Apparently Trump thinks the G7 is Festivus.

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ObserverArt  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:56:55am

re: #222 JordanRules

I just love Jaclyn’s smile.

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She is one of those whose eyes smile too. Infectious cuteness.

Again…the Parkland Florida students are the real future of this country. I hope they stay safe on their tour and turn the political tide in this country.

Time for the tired conservatives to shuffle along.

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Citizen K  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:57:14am

We’re going to be going to war with Canada soon, aren’t we? I don’t mean a trade war, I don’t mean even a cold war. We’re going to be sending troops over the northern border because Trump is a thin-skinned cretin and coward who is tantruming, aren’t we?

Just…holy sweet mother fuck. We’re actually accusing the leader of one of our longest term allies of ‘stabbing Trump in the back’? Fucking really?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:58:04am
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:58:29am

re: #229 Citizen K

I hope not. We are going to need all the friends we can possibly get when DT gets out or is kicked out.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:58:39am

re: #229 Citizen K

We’re going to be going to war with Canada soon, aren’t we?

Revenge for 1812

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sagehen  Jun 10, 2018 • 8:59:53am

re: #225 PhillyPretzel

Making voting a cool thing. I see some of the younger people who vote for the first time. Their family comes with them to the polling place and they take pictures of the whole process. They are very positive.

When I was a kid, a local grocery store would accept your “I voted” sticker as payment for a candy bar.

Maybe giving them to everyone is too much (130 million candy bars at a dollar each)… but there should be something for first-time voters. Maybe a choice of either a candy bar or a piece of fruit.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:00:36am

re: #222 JordanRules

I just love Jaclyn’s smile.

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Nice to see another right wing tactic turned on the RepubliKKKlans since for years right wing churches have been doing this with their 18 year old members.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:02:21am

re: #229 Citizen K

We’re going to be going to war with Canada soon, aren’t we? I don’t mean a trade war, I don’t mean even a cold war. We’re going to be sending troops over the northern border because Trump is a thin-skinned cretin and coward who is tantruming, aren’t we?

Just…holy sweet mother fuck. We’re actually accusing the leader of one of our longest term allies of ‘stabbing Trump in the back’? Fucking really?

Oh, I remember being stuck in my aunt’s church on Sunday mornings hearing the Pulpit Pimp denouncing “Gawdless Marxist Canada”…

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:02:58am

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Lol!!! Dying.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:03:36am

re: #229 Citizen K

We’re going to be going to war with Canada soon, aren’t we?

That’s what they get for Nickelback.

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sagehen  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:04:24am

re: #227 Eclectic Cyborg

Apparently Trump thinks the G7 is Festivus.

I’d pay good money to watch him compete against Trudeau or Macron in the Feats of Strength.

For that matter, Merkel or May could whomp him pretty good. And I’ll bet Abe knows some karate…

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:04:45am

re: #229 Citizen K

No. As bad as this administration gets, I don’t see a ground war with Canada in the cards. Now, if you’re talking about the Middle East, then perhaps that could happen.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:05:32am

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yes sexism. He’s allowed to come back and we’re supposed to forget his pathetic response to Benghazi by trying to claim President Obama sympathized with the attackers. Mitt more than any Republican nominee lead the way for Trump.

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sagehen  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:06:51am

re: #237 Ace Rothstein

That’s what they get for Nickelback.

And Celine Dion. And Justin Bieber.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:06:52am

re: #227 Eclectic Cyborg

Apparently Trump thinks the G7 is Festivus.

Macron won the Feats of Strength.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:07:13am

re: #241 sagehen

And Celine Dion. And Justin Bieber.

and Rush

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:07:32am

re: #240 HappyWarrior

Yes sexism. He’s allowed to come back and we’re supposed to forget his pathetic response to Benghazi by trying to claim President Obama sympathized with the attackers. Mitt more than any Republican nominee lead the way for Trump.

Oh it would be a wonderful Karmic response if Romney loses his Senate primary to the guy who wants to cling tighter to Trump than a wet Depends!

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makeitstop  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:07:45am

Man, I go offline for one damn day to celebrate my wife’s birthday and Trump goes and smears the walls of G-7 with his own shit, and then blames Trudeau and Macron for the shit-smearing.

We’re heading out to The Cloisters today for a hike and some photography. Can’t wait to see what pleasantries will await me when I get back home.

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Jay C  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:07:59am

When I made a comment to my wife about Justify winning the Belmont Stakes (and Triple Crown) she opined that Justify would be one competitor Trump would want at the WH, since he could be counted on NOT to kneel for the National Anthem…

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ObserverArt  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:08:45am

Mitt Romney is just another Donald Trump.

A tad more successful and a more polished image.

Scratch the surface and the paint under there reveals another uncaring megalomaniac.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:08:49am

re: #244 Joe Bacon 🌹

Oh it would be a wonderful Karmic response if Romney loses his Senate primary to the guy who wants to cling tighter to Trump than a wet Depends!

every GOP primary is a battle between the POT (Party of Trump) and the GOP establishment.

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ObserverArt  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:09:20am

re: #243 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and Rush

Uh oh. That’s going to piss off some Lizards.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:09:31am

re: #247 ObserverArt

Mitt Romney is just another Donald Trump.

A tad more successful and a more polished image.

Scratch the surface and the paint under there reveals another uncaring megalomaniac.

He has a record of public service and has done some reasonable things. But he had to abandon that all to campaign in 2012

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:09:43am

re: #233 sagehen

When I was a kid, a local grocery store would accept your “I voted” sticker as payment for a candy bar.

Maybe giving them to everyone is too much (130 million candy bars at a dollar each)… but there should be something for first-time voters. Maybe a choice of either a candy bar or a piece of fruit.

That is likely to run into laws against vote buying. I think Starbucks got into a bit of trouble a few years ago for that.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:10:46am

I have proof about who writes Huckabee’s terrible tweets. (I know, they are all terrible).

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:11:00am

re: #241 sagehen

And Justin Bieber.

Words fail me…

Shawn Mendes has admitted that he’d be up for buying Justin Bieber’s dirty underwear.

nme.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:13:06am
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Citizen K  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:13:20am

I’d like to think that Krugman is knowingly subtweeting his own paper at this point.

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Jay C  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:14:40am

re: #252 I Would Prefer Not To

I have proof about who writes Huckabee’s terrible tweets. (I know, they are all terrible).

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Schmuckabee’s phrasing is pretty telling here: “lesser nations”???

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:14:59am

Yesterday I watched both seasons of Victoria. Today is the last season of Downton Abbey. Mr Carson and Mrs Hughes just got married and Tom has come home.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:15:26am

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yep.

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Citizen K  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:24:13am

re: #255 Citizen K

And as if right on cue…

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:25:58am

re: #159 retired cynic

I loved them all.

I rooted for Alydar for all 3 races.

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JordanRules  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:26:29am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:29:31am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:29:58am

They’re scheduled to meet at 9 AM

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:34:02am

re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth

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When the lesser party can game the system to maintain control, hell yeah, there are flaws.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:34:29am

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Must be Frisbeetarianism, ‘cause he’s on the roof and won’t come down.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:40:47am

re: #263 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

They’re scheduled to meet at 9 AM

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Only five hours - more likely, four or less. And photo opp, etc.

Not much, but I didn’t expect much to begin with, to be honest.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:42:09am

re: #266 Dr Lizardo

No way Trump goes 4 hours. I say one, tops.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:42:46am

re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth

And that downgrade came from the folks at The Economist.

Ouch.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:42:57am

re: #252 I Would Prefer Not To

I have proof about who writes Huckabee’s terrible tweets. (I know, they are all terrible).

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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:43:58am

re: #256 Jay C

Schmuckabee’s phrasing is pretty telling here: “lesser nations”???

They’re lesser to Huckabee since they’d never elect a theocratic fascist like him anywhere.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:46:33am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:47:48am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:48:48am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Who’s the one who brought up the war of 1812, Larry?

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:49:24am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

Macron face looks like “I am going to get this person one way or another.”
DT just looks puzzled.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:50:01am

re: #274 PhillyPretzel

Macron face looks like “I am going to get this person one way or another.”
DT just looks puzzled.

that photo is just moments before Macron crushed the yam’s tiny hand.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:50:20am

re: #243 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and Rush

Because I like you, no down ding for this insult.

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plansbandc  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:50:37am

I will never call them anything else now. :D

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:50:51am

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes. That is what it looks like.

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Belafon  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:52:35am
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Dave In Austin  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:53:52am
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Dave In Austin  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:55:20am

re: #279 Belafon

Best today, maybe to date.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:56:39am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2018 • 9:56:49am

re: #280 Dave In Austin

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We know the line of succession you idiot. Your base meanwhile has people who think Hawaii isn’t American soil.

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JordanRules  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:00:09am
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Belafon  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:02:08am

re: #280 Dave In Austin

I like this:

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BlueGrl21  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:03:42am

re: #252 I Would Prefer Not To

I have proof about who writes Huckabee’s terrible tweets. (I know, they are all terrible).

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I am a member of the Junior League, Huckabee. We’d throw his ass right back out the door without chipping a nail or spilling our wine.

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JordanRules  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:03:52am

I saw one of the old Law & Order episodes about the Russian mob and money laundering in NY yesterday. It was so fitting.

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JordanRules  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:05:42am
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Mattand  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:06:07am

re: #145 I cannot.

I’m not sure if I want to contemplate the idea of a Woke Jonah, because that means…jesus, I have no idea WHAT it means, just that it’s hella bad.

Woke Jonah will go back to sleep once Trump and the Republican Congress does something he likes.

Honestly, fuck the whole “woke Republican” idea. I’m not buying it from Jonah Goldberg; not buying it from Jeff Flake; not buying it from John McCain.

Every one of these fucknuts voted Trump and either promoted or voted for policies he supported, while insisting they’re all mavericky and independent. They’re either delusional or counting on the legendary American lack of civic education to get away with this shit.

This why I got all pissy about the Jonah Goldberg editorial that long time Lizard posted as a Page a while back. Republicans/conservatives don’t argue in good faith; even when they start to approach something appearing rational, they go all Lucy with the football on Charlie Brown.

On what planet are we to believe that someone like Jonah Goldberg has seen the light after promoting the very same polices that Trump has enacted? These fuckers cannot be trusted.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:06:17am

somebody is missing (and I bet the rest were relieved to be able to actually get some work done)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:06:27am

re: #276 Ace Rothstein

Because I like you, no down ding for this insult.

sorry, never liked Rush much at all and really grew tired of them blasting from nearly dorm room floor wherever I went at Indiana University in the late 70’s…

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:06:32am

re: #280 Dave In Austin

Note that he thinks someone has to tell us.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:06:42am

re: #285 Belafon

I like this:

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As much as I don’t like Kasich, I would be far less concerned about the line of succession if he had accepted the VP role. At least he’s not a theocrat and I don’t think he’s a Putin fan.

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Citizen K  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:06:52am

re: #284 JordanRules

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They keep getting so close to getting it. They’re like, directly adjacent to ‘getting it’ and refuse to make that one last logical step….

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The Major  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:08:08am

re: #247 ObserverArt

Scratch the surface and the paint under there reveals another uncaring megalomaniac.

Ah-yup. His time at Bain Capital secured that nice loathsome practice of buying companies and then bilking them dry due to “special dividends” the LBO firm demands on whom they take over - just look at Chrysler before they filed Chapter 11 - Cerberus Capital, who bought a huge stake in them, refused to spend one-red-cent on bailimg them out, claiming they had some special deal whereby Cerberus was prohibited from bailing out Chrysler when they were keel-hauled before Congress.

Just look at what fast Eddie Lampert is doing to Sears Holdings….

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:08:53am

re: #288 JordanRules

A former PM wants to help. That is nice. DT does not need help. Vlad already did. And the rest of us just have to manage on our own. G-d help the USA.

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Belafon  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:10:48am

re: #296 PhillyPretzel

A former PM wants to help. That is nice. DT does not need help. Vlad already did. And the rest of us just have to manage on our own. G-d help the USA.

You’re misinterpreting. The quote is supposed to be what Merkel is saying. That’s why it’s in quotes. The former PM was captioning the picture.

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Mattand  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:10:50am

I’m looking at the news this weekend and I’ll can think is “WW3 will involve Europe, South Korea, and Japan on one side; and the US, North Korea and Russia on the other.”

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:10:52am

re: #289 Mattand

Woke Jonah will go back to sleep once Trump and the Republican Congress does something he likes.

Honestly, fuck the whole “woke Republican” idea. I’m not buying it from Jonah Goldberg; not buying it from Jeff Flake; not buying it from John McCain.

Every one of these fucknuts voted Trump and either promoted or voted for policies he supported, while insisting they’re all mavericky and independent. They’re either delusional or counting on the legendary American lack of civic education to get away with this shit.

This why I got all pissy about the Jonah Goldberg editorial that long time Lizard posted as a Page a while back. Republicans/conservatives don’t argue in good faith; even when they start to approach something appearing rational, they go all Lucy with the football on Charlie Brown.

On what planet are we to believe that someone like Jonah Goldberg has seen the light after promoting the very same polices that Trump has enacted? These fuckers cannot be trusted.

McCain did vote to save the ACA; and he is definitely not a supporter of Trump’s FP. Given his illness, it’s not surprising his opposition has to be so limited. There is no excuse for any of the other GOP senators.

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Belafon  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:12:13am

re: #293 Hecuba’s daughter

As much as I don’t like Kasich, I would be far less concerned about the line of succession if he had accepted the VP role. At least he’s not a theocrat and I don’t think he’s a Putin fan.

Possibly. But I think we have to impeach and convict Trump based on the evidence and not what we think Pence is going to do. Because to do otherwise means there’s no point in the laws, all a crazy person has to do is to have someone crazier as VP.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:12:19am
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Ace Rothstein  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:13:37am

The only reason not to destroy Canada in The Easy to Win Trade War is because they gave the world hockey, and American NHL teams have won the Stanley Cup for the last 25 years.

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dangerman  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:13:45am

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Regarding Singapore:

— There will be a nominal, ineffectual agreement to dismantle equipment, etc.

— Trump will declare world peace.

— There will be no actual peace treaty.

— Kim will retain missiles, etc. and feel he has the right to use them

That’s what I said yesterday
(Polishes apple on chest)

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:15:41am

To whomever gave me the upding that put me up to 26,000 thank you.

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Mattand  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:16:02am

re: #299 Hecuba’s daughter

McCain did vote to save the ACA; and he is definitely not a supporter of Trump’s FP. Given his illness, it’s not surprising his opposition has to be so limited. There is no excuse for any of the other GOP senators.

He voted for Trump after Trump mocked him for being a POW, and after Trump shit on a Gold Star family who dared to criticize him.

That is the mark of a spineless politician who puts party before country.

I know I’m being cynical, but I’d be willing to bet McCain would have voted to gut the ACA had Trump not insulted him. Also, how many other insane Trump-endorsed policies has McCain supported?

Sorry the guy is sick, but again; to think of him as someone willing to stand up to Trump is ridiculous.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:16:14am

re: #303 dangerman

That’s what I said yesterday
(Polishes apple on chest)

It does not matter what happens, this will be spun as a diplomatic triumph and a huuuuuge Win for MAGAmerica

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Mattand  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:16:34am

re: #304 PhillyPretzel

Wasn’t me, but congrats!

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JordanRules  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:17:15am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:20:19am

re: #305 Mattand

He voted for Trump after Trump mocked him for being a POW, and after Trump shit on a Gold Star family who dared to criticize him.

That is the mark of a spineless politician who puts party before country.

I know I’m being cynical, but I’d be willing to bet McCain would have voted to gut the ACA had Trump not insulted him. Also, how many other insane Trump-endorsed policies has McCain supported?

Sorry the guy is sick, but again; to think of him as someone willing to stand up to Trump is ridiculous.

He also inflicted Sarah Palin and her mob on us.

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Belafon  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:20:46am
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dangerman  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:20:54am

re: #255 Citizen K

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I’d like to think that Krugman is knowingly subtweeting his own paper at this point.

I’ve been saying this for years
It’s only more true now

The complicated business of politics is to negotiate agreements between groups with different interests, the object of finding a common way forward.

At present only one side buys into this premise. While the other does not market any notion of democratic participatory ‘politics’ but rather power, domination, and force of will. Authoritarian and dictatorial

——-and

politics is no longer a clash of value systems, each of which is in some way valid; a competition between basically well-intentioned people who see the world differently

It has it become, not even a conflict of interests, but instead a tribal, degenerative, brutal struggle for office in which ONE side with righteous indignation believes only the other is and can be capable of behaving despicably

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JordanRules  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:21:02am

re: #299 Hecuba’s daughter

McCain did vote to save the ACA; and he is definitely not a supporter of Trump’s FP. Given his illness, it’s not surprising his opposition has to be so limited. There is no excuse for any of the other GOP senators.

I thought his illness would free him up to be much more radically oppositional. What he’s doing is the same as he has done for years…being a fake maverick.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:21:47am
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Belafon  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:22:08am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:23:09am

re: #145 I cannot.

I’m not sure if I want to contemplate the idea of a Woke Jonah, because that means…jesus, I have no idea WHAT it means, just that it’s hella bad.

Jonah Goldberg is only upset that Trump isn’t using the regular racist and misogynistic dog-whistles of conservatives.

He would be just fine with any other Republican who did the same things without plain speaking about what conservatism really is.

Goldberg is not “woke.” He would be all-in if this was Pence instead.

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Mattand  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:23:33am

re: #309 Anymouse 🌹

He also inflicted Sarah Palin and her mob on us.

Good point. That arguably can be cited as Ground Zero for the mess we’re in, as it’s basically when the Tea Baggers came slithering out from their whites-only rocks.

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Mattand  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:24:00am

re: #315 Anymouse 🌹

Jonah Goldberg is only upset that Trump isn’t using the regular racist and misogynistic dog-whistles of conservatives.

He would be just fine with any other Republican who did the same things without plain speaking about what conservatism really is.

Goldberg is not “woke.” He would be all-in if this was Pence instead.

Yup.

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Belafon  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:24:52am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:24:59am

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Yeah okay Jeanne you don’t sound like a hack at all there.

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dangerman  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:25:50am

re: #279 Belafon

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When the US sends its people to Singapore, they’re not sending their best people. They’re not sending experts. They’re sending people that have lots of problems. They’re bringing conmen. They’re bringing Nazis. They’re bringing warmongers. And some, I assume, are morons.

Their sending the only people willing to go

Rodman? Really? This is not serious. It *not* normal

Eta: left out the “not”

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dangerman  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:27:36am

re: #283 HappyWarrior

We know the line of succession you idiot. Your base meanwhile has people who think Hawaii isn’t American soil.

And treats Puerto Ricans like non-citizens

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:29:42am

re: #291 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

sorry, never liked Rush much at all and really grew tired of them blasting from nearly dorm room floor wherever I went at Indiana University in the late 70’s…

I leaned more towards Triumph’s stuff in those days if we are talking Canadian bands.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:32:08am

re: #229 Citizen K

We’re going to be going to war with Canada soon, aren’t we? I don’t mean a trade war, I don’t mean even a cold war. We’re going to be sending troops over the northern border because Trump is a thin-skinned cretin and coward who is tantruming, aren’t we?

Just…holy sweet mother fuck. We’re actually accusing the leader of one of our longest term allies of ‘stabbing Trump in the back’? Fucking really?

(2:04)

Blame Canada - South Park: Bigger Longer & Uncut (3/9) Movie CLIP (1999) HD

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:33:17am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:35:50am

Long and enlightening thread:

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:36:01am

re: #319 HappyWarrior

Yeah okay Jeanne you don’t sound like a hack at all there.

She sounds like those clips of the North Korean news presenter on YouTube.

(1:36)

North Korean TV says nuclear test was a perfect success

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dangerman  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:38:20am

re: #310 Belafon

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This may officially mark the moment when the whole administration lost its mind

Not even close. Way too late
It may be when they were “exposed” as the idiots they are.. cuase Lord knows up to now no one ekse has done it

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Skip Intro  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:41:55am

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dangerman  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:42:11am

re: #312 JordanRules

I thought his illness would free him up to be much more radically oppositional. What he’s doing is the same as he has done for years…being a fake maverick.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:43:42am

re: #328 Skip Intro

I could not agree more.

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dangerman  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:43:45am

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

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State TV Host Jeanine Pirro: Liberals Hate That Trump Is The Smartest, Most Successful President Of All Time -

None of these hacks even tries to make an argument

It’s all hyperbole

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retired cynic  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:44:29am

Good week for the summary of what is not normal by Amy Siskind: theweeklylist.org

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JordanRules  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:44:51am

re: #329 dangerman

Right and I thought his illness would free him up to do some actual mavericking with hating Trump as an added motivational engine.

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dangerman  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:45:14am

re: #318 Belafon

[Embedded content]
Trump team calls Trudeau “weak” & “dishonest.” Just a matter of time until they accuse him of cheating on his wife with porn stars, being a Russian puppet, running a fake university and using his foundation to buy himself gifts, pay his bills & bribe

Would be nice if someone did

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retired cynic  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:46:21am

re: #334 dangerman

Would be nice if someone did

I thought he meant they would accuse Trudeau of that, since it is always reversed. No puppet, you’re the puppet.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:49:10am

re: #325 Backwoods_Sleuth

Long and enlightening thread:

He’s correct, both for the Navy and for the electorate.

There is no glory in getting out and doing the grunt work of uplifting others to get them elected, any more than there is uplifting your shipmates to help them advance to chief.

I took the chief’s exam three times, and made a perfect score each time. But all the chief’s exam does is put your record before the advancement board, where they look at all the other things you’ve done in your career. I did not advance to chief.

I did not blame others, or ask if there was a special trick. I worked harder. Maybe I would have made chief had I not been bounced out for epilepsy, maybe not.

But I damn sure knew I wouldn’t advance at all if I wasn’t working for the team.

Politics is like that. Waiting for someone to swoop in and do the work you should be doing, even when that work is not glorious or satisfying, will not get you a government which cares about you.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:49:55am

re: #331 dangerman

None of these hacks even tries to make an argument

It’s all hyperbole

that’s all that is needed…praising the Great Leader and heaping scorn on anyone who might dare to criticize him or even disagree with him

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dangerman  Jun 10, 2018 • 10:51:27am

re: #335 retired cynic

I thought he meant they would accuse Trudeau of that, since it is always reversed. No puppet, you’re the puppet.

While your reading is probably right I like mine better

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Charles Johnson  Jun 10, 2018 • 11:13:31am
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dangerman  Jun 10, 2018 • 11:14:05am

re: #337 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that’s all that is needed…praising the Great Leader and heaping scorn on anyone who might dare to criticize him or even disagree with him

- congress is both complicit and absent
- the media for the most part is brain-dead and absent
- russia is, well, russia

this g7 event/confrontation (because trump refused ‘collaboration’) may be the ‘rest of the world’ saying ‘we see and you don’t fool us’.

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Belafon  Jun 10, 2018 • 11:18:19am

re: #339 Charles Johnson

From a physics standpoint, with Macron reach that far into Trump, there is no way at all Trump will have any leverage. He’s already lost.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 10, 2018 • 11:21:26am

re: #259 Citizen K

And as if right on cue…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 11:21:52am

re: #341 Belafon

From a physics standpoint, with Macron reach that far into Trump, there is no way at all Trump will have any leverage. He’s already lost.

symptomatic…he started a Handshake War with no strategy and no idea of how to end it

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 10, 2018 • 11:23:39am

re: #342 Joe Bacon 🌹

No one’s buying your book, Mags.

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Belafon  Jun 10, 2018 • 11:24:36am

It’s going to be trying times until we can turn it around, but we have to watch the despair:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 11:25:43am

re: #340 dangerman

- congress is both complicit and absent
- the media for the most part is brain-dead and absent
- russia is, well, russia

this g7 event/confrontation (because trump refused ‘collaboration’) may be the ‘rest of the world’ saying ‘we see and you don’t fool us’.

the foreign press is not going to fawn over DT just for ratings and access

347
Eventual Carrion  Jun 10, 2018 • 11:27:06am

Just did a crushing 558 Google gnome throw. Ha

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Belafon  Jun 10, 2018 • 11:29:02am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 10, 2018 • 11:32:11am

re: #348 Belafon

[Embedded content]

And they probably missed the targets over and over again!

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jun 10, 2018 • 11:32:33am

re: #347 Eventual Carrion

Just did a crushing 558 Google gnome throw. Ha

And all you get for winning is a choice of gnomes. And THEY DON’T SMASH.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 10, 2018 • 11:34:42am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 10, 2018 • 11:34:49am

re: #348 Belafon

target range is fine. at home is fine. pulling them out in public in active shooter situations is at best problematic and at worse potentially disastrous

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Belafon  Jun 10, 2018 • 11:36:33am

re: #351 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump only has one spoon.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 10, 2018 • 11:36:40am

re: #352 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

target range is fine. at home is fine. pulling them out in public in active shooter situations is at best problematic and at worse potentially disastrous

And it wouldn’t take five seconds to knock them to the ground and grab their guns!

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TedStriker  Jun 10, 2018 • 11:37:08am

re: #353 Belafon

Trump only has one spoon.

Stuck right up his Hershey Highway.

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Belafon  Jun 10, 2018 • 11:42:38am
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dangerman  Jun 10, 2018 • 12:00:14pm

re: #345 Belafon

It’s going to be trying times until we can turn it around, but we have to watch the despair:

[Embedded content]
Wrap it up, Bob. 90% of what we need to know has been public knowledge for anyone with a brain for going on 2 years

I’m betting this is going to turn out to be extremely wrong

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dangerman  Jun 10, 2018 • 12:01:49pm

re: #346 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

the foreign press is not going to fawn over DT just for ratings and access

Yes
And these other world leaders now have enough data to know exactly how to deal with him

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 10, 2018 • 12:58:52pm

re: #342 Joe Bacon 🌹

William Akers (with over a thousand tweets and fifty-seven followers) didn’t like your response to Maggie Haberman.


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