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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:08:58am

I’ll say it again, Mueller is the man Trumpers think Trump is, Trump is everything thing they said Obama’ is- vain, narcissistic, ignorant, narrow mindded

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JordanRules  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:09:52am
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Belafon  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:12:56am

re: #2 JordanRules

And that could make a great set of ads for Democrats in November: “President Trump wants to eliminate pre-existing conditions requirements from medical coverage. has been unwilling to stand up to Trump’s tariff’s against Canada and Mexico that is hurting your farm. Do you think he’ll stand up to Trump to protect your health care? No, he won’t.”

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gocart mozart  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:14:25am
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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:14:54am
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KGxvi  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:20:23am

re: #5 Charles Johnson

As John Oliver said, we all at least have two more sunsets to enjoy before it all goes horribly wrong.

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JordanRules  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:22:38am

What is wrong with these gun groupies??

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:23:07am

I see AT&T are already slowing down access to Daily Kos and Talking Points Memo.

Now if the would only slow down Infowars…

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:24:16am

re: #7 JordanRules

What is wrong with these gun groupies??

They think they’re clever.

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KGxvi  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:24:50am

re: #7 JordanRules

What is wrong with these gun groupies??

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They still think might makes right. Or as Mao said, “Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:25:06am

re: #8 Joe Bacon 🌹

I see AT&T are already slowing down access to Daily Kos and Talking Points Memo.

Now if the would only slow down Infowars…

Interestingly, I noticed that there were some problems with Reddit not long ago, about one hour ago. And not just the “Ow!” page which goes away once you refresh the browser - it was sustained, lasting for about a good 45 minutes.

That was a first.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:26:10am
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nines09  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:27:30am

Fuck Trump and The Entire GOP.

Have a shot of this.

Hayes Carll Rivertown

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KGxvi  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:27:32am

re: #12 Charles Johnson

blood-curdling scream or exasperated sigh followed by a muttered, “this fucking guy?”

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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:29:40am
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sagehen  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:31:50am

re: #2 JordanRules

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Is everyone missing the obvious?

Large employers with large group policies… their worker bees have no pre-existing condition limitations.

Which means not just anybody with a PEC, but anybody whose spouse or offspring has a PEC, can never leave their job. Ever. They can’t look for a better job, they can’t start their own business, they can’t make waves when they’re forced to work 70-hour weeks with no overtime, or that they haven’t had a raise in 14 years, or when they have to work with poisonous chemicals and no safety gear, or when their boss tries to rape them, or for any other reason. Ever.

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JordanRules  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:31:57am

Thread!

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JordanRules  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:33:34am

re: #16 sagehen

Is everyone missing the obvious?

Large employers with large group policies… their worker bees have no pre-existing condition limitations.

Which means not just anybody with a PEC, but anybody whose spouse or offspring has a PEC, can never leave their job. Ever. They can’t look for a better job, they can’t start their own business, they can’t make waves when they’re forced to work 70-hour weeks with no overtime, or that they haven’t had a raise in 14 years, or when they have to work with poisonous chemicals and no safety gear, or when their boss tries to rape them, or for any other reason. Ever.

Was pointed out a lot last summer when we fought them back the first few times.

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gocart mozart  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:35:13am
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Alephnaught  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:35:23am

OT: Some fun.

This is a DJ mix I made in 2007 as part of an art project called “Utr-Otter” on Flickr. Basically this otter toy travels around the world, and you photograph his visit to your home town. You can see his visit to Glasgow here. flickr.com Not only did he see Glasgow (Cover image is in Kelvingrove Galleries), I took him on a photoshoot, took him to a Patrick Wolf concert, and even took him clubbing to the legendary alt-queer night Utter Gutter.

When he arrived in Glasgow, he came with a mixtape CD from his previous host, so I made this mix for his next host. Some of it is of it’s time (Mylo and Franz Ferdinand were big then.), local bands from mp3.com and Myspace (Saltire, Kain, Gareth Dickson), some clubby stuff (Slam, Sons & Daughters/Optimo), and other Scottish stuff in a modern (for 2007) Glasgow vein. Enjoy!

NOTE- couple of tracks are NSFW (Mylo, Billy Connoly). Franz Ferdinand might also be borderline for some places in the US. [Though it shouldn’t be- Glasgow band with Top 10 UK hit, with sample lyric: “This is what I am/I am a man/So, come and dance with me, Michael”?]

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Kragar  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:37:37am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:39:52am

re: #21 Kragar

I mean is Putin literally Godzilla? If not then we shouldn’t criticize him, or something I guess.

/

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ipsos  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:41:39am

It feels like when Bourdain died (and Kate Spade, to a lesser extent) that all their pain and sadness went aerosol and sprayed over all of us. Or maybe it’s just me.

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danarchy  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:42:03am

re: #10 KGxvi

They still think might makes right. Or as Mao said, “Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.”

Or maybe, you know, it was just bad satire as they followed the “Challenge” up with this statement:

Newbern commented, “Real activism seeks to win over fence sitters and rebut opponents, not simply spit in the eye of the opposition. Real activists effect change by focusing on political discourse, not publicity stunts. Kaitlin Bennett isn’t an activist; she’s a narcissist. She’s not trying to influence public policy; she’s auditioning for cable news.”

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:43:35am

re: #23 ipsos

It feels like when Bourdain died (and Kate Spade, to a lesser extent) that all their pain and sadness went aerosol and sprayed over all of us. Or maybe it’s just me.

It’s not them. It’s just another day ending with Trump.

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nines09  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:45:22am

re: #23 ipsos

It feels like when Bourdain died (and Kate Spade, to a lesser extent) that all their pain and sadness went aerosol and sprayed over all of us. Or maybe it’s just me.

You are not alone. Trust me. Not alone.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:48:19am

re: #16 sagehen

Is everyone missing the obvious?

Large employers with large group policies… their worker bees have no pre-existing condition limitations.

Which means not just anybody with a PEC, but anybody whose spouse or offspring has a PEC, can never leave their job. Ever. They can’t look for a better job, they can’t start their own business, they can’t make waves when they’re forced to work 70-hour weeks with no overtime, or that they haven’t had a raise in 14 years, or when they have to work with poisonous chemicals and no safety gear, or when their boss tries to rape them, or for any other reason. Ever.

Normally, if you start a new job in one of those companies, you have a period during which you can enroll in medical irrespective of PECs. The effects on group policies from the changes the R’s want to make are more subtle.

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Kragar  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:48:48am
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KGxvi  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:49:08am

re: #24 danarchy

Or maybe, you know, it was just bad satire as they followed the “Challenge” up with this statement:

I’m not sure they know what satire is, either good or bad. Also:

Archer - Irony and satire

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JordanRules  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:50:09am

re: #24 danarchy

Or maybe, you know, it was just bad satire as they followed the “Challenge” up with this statement:

That’s a good statement, much better than that satire.

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bratwurst  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:53:41am
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b.d. (De-ICE the USA)  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:53:59am

re: #22 Sir John Barron

I mean is Putin literally Godzilla? If not then we shouldn’t criticize him, or something I guess.

/

Don’t be saying bad stuff about Godzilla, he has a lot of stuff going on and sometimes means well.

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JordanRules  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:54:18am
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JordanRules  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:54:44am

re: #31 bratwurst

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:55:51am

re: #33 JordanRules

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All are winnable.

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BeachDem  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:56:09am

re: #21 Kragar

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Hate is just so aging (Katie Hopkins is 43 years old)

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plansbandc  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:57:23am
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makeitstop  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:58:40am

re: #8 Joe Bacon 🌹

I see AT&T are already slowing down access to Daily Kos and Talking Points Memo.

Now if the would only slow down Infowars…

Both of those sites have been slow for years. I barely go to Kos any more because it takes forever to load, even before the death of Net Neutrality. I put up with TPM taking a few minutes to load because I like their reporting.

And add Raw Story to that list, too. Total resource hog.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:59:22am
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KGxvi  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:00:18pm

re: #37 plansbandc

the fuck is wrong with people.

Not a question, more a general statement.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:00:41pm

re: #36 BeachDem

Hate is just so aging (Katie Hopkins in 43 years old)

I forgot about her — a totally racist Brit.

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gocart mozart  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:02:00pm
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JordanRules  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:02:11pm

re: #38 makeitstop

Both of those sites have been slow for years. I barely go to Kos any more because it takes forever to load, even before the death of Net Neutrality. I put up with TPM taking a few minutes to load because I like their reporting.

And add Raw Story to that list, too. Total resource hog.

Yup. I hardly go to any of them anymore.

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wrenchwench  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:03:48pm

re: #37 plansbandc

[… An older couple pulled up next to them as they stood on the parking lot, rolled down the window and said, “We have some hangin’ trees over there.”…]

Had I been there, I’da said, ‘Well get up there!’

People need to find out there will be pushback. I respect that not all can be so forthright, I also understand that I can, so I must.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:04:03pm
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JordanRules  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:04:16pm
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Sir John Barron  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:06:47pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Why Samantha Bee’s apology to Ivanka didn’t go far enough, ignoring the down-in-the-gutter incest joke #Mediabuzz video.foxnews.com

— HowardKurtz

Dude, your president never apologizes for anything.

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JordanRules  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:07:39pm
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Sir John Barron  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:09:19pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Why Samantha Bee’s apology to Ivanka didn’t go far enough, ignoring the down-in-the-gutter incest joke #Mediabuzz video.foxnews.com

— HowardKurtz

Eff your feelings, snowflake.

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nines09  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:09:27pm

re: #44 wrenchwench

All I know is silence is acquiescence. A lot of people cannot or will not enter into a conflict. And I can understand that. But my life lessons have told me time and time again to push back. To the point of being nasty. Very. Nasty.
No loud mouthed ass hole ever stopped when they were allowed to keep being a loud mouthed asshole.
I can understand folks not wanting to appear to be as rude as the asshole. BUT…..Standing up is not being him or her.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:15:03pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

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Boo fucking hoo. Ivanka is in league with Ted Nugent who talks like a Nazi about those he dislikes. Bee doesn’t owe Ivanka shit and her father does the incest jokes for her.

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Citizen K  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:15:25pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

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Calling Ivanka a c-word in the process of calling out her cravenness toward the fabricated crises at the border: biggest scandal evar and a stain on Sam Bee’s entire career!!!!

Saying the leader of one of our most stalwart allies “stabbed us in the back” and that “there’s a special place in hell” for him: totally normal diplomatic language and not at all destabilizing or insulting at all!!!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:15:44pm

re: #44 wrenchwench

Had I been there, I’da said, ‘Well get up there!’

People need to find out there will be pushback. I respect that not all can be so forthright, I also understand that I can, so I must.

Most of us are not quick enough to reply with a clever retort when someone says an outrageous insult in our presence. My initial response, if I weren’t shocked into silence, would probably have been some NSFW comment on their ancestry and wish for their quick demise.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:16:38pm
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nines09  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:18:22pm

re: #53 Hecuba’s daughter

A very sincere “Fuck off” can do wonders.

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:19:48pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

It’s an acknowledgement that tolerance has failed as a tool, and it’s time to use another one. If they’re not going to play nice, then they can crawl back under the rock they came out of.

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wrenchwench  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:19:50pm

re: #53 Hecuba’s daughter

Most of us are not quick enough to reply with a clever retort when someone says an outrageous insult in our presence. My initial response, if I weren’t shocked into silence, would probably have been some NSFW comment on their ancestry and wish for their quick demise.

Cleverness is not required. NSFW comment on their ancestry will suffice. Sometimes an unrelenting series of questions about what they said makes a good point, and results in some satisfactory squirming, or the wife dragging the husband away before the screaming starts.

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Citizen K  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:19:51pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

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(And sorry there, Charles, one of the rare times I catch my typos early, before I thought anyone saw it).

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:24:26pm

Sadistic freak is from a “prominent local family,” victim is the only black kid in town.
No Jail Time For 19-Year-Old In Idaho Coat-Hanger Assault Case

A 19-year-old white man accused of kicking a coat hanger up the rectum of a mentally disabled black teammate received no jail time at his sentencing on Friday.

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wrenchwench  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:25:39pm

Nothing frees up use of the f word so quickly as having no more to give.

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gocart mozart  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:26:40pm
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Kragar  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:28:54pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:29:16pm

re: #55 nines09

A very sincere “Fuck off” can do wonders.

Yep, “Fuck off shitstain” would have been the first words out of my mouth. Then if things went further it would have gotten ugly. I am not a pacifist in any definition of the word. I have no problem throwing down with those kind of scumbags.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:29:20pm

re: #59 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Sadistic freak is from a “prominent local family,” victim is the only black kid in town.
No Jail Time For 19-Year-Old In Idaho Coat-Hanger Assault Case

Agh. I remember this case.

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nines09  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:32:07pm

re: #63 Eventual Carrion

Say it with me.

“Shut the fuck up, BITCH. Muthafukking piece of fucking shit. Pfftt.”

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nines09  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:33:56pm

bbl work calls

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Kragar  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:35:04pm

and the real scandal of the day…

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nines09  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:36:03pm

later

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:36:08pm

re: #59 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Sadistic freak is from a “prominent local family,” victim is the only black kid in town.
No Jail Time For 19-Year-Old In Idaho Coat-Hanger Assault Case

Of course, this may not be an example of racism by the court but the effect of wealth in the justice system.

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makeitstop  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:37:52pm

Oh, Rudy. Ya had to go and shoot your mouth off, didn’t you? Heh.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:40:05pm

re: #63 Eventual Carrion

Yep, “Fuck off shitstain” would have been the first words out of my mouth. Then if things went further it would have gotten ugly. I am not a pacifist in any definition of the word. I have no problem throwing down with those kind of scumbags.

Few women have the experience and/or strength to react in a physical altercation; we avoid them.

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JordanRules  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:40:36pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:41:09pm

Just saw what looked like 3 CH-47 Chinook heli’s go overhead. Probably from Youngstown-Warren airfield. C-130’s from the base fly over frequently, but this is the first time that I saw cargo helicopters in formation.

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Kragar  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:41:14pm
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Kragar  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:44:21pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:46:11pm

Ya gold dug to close to the sun and now you’re burnt, ya birther bird

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wrenchwench  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:47:02pm

re: #71 Hecuba’s daughter

Few women have the experience and/or strength to react in a physical altercation; we avoid them.

So true. I haven’t been in a physical altercation since my younger brother got big enough to fight back. I pick my battles to keep them verbal. I also know that some day I could find myself over my head. I’m a small, gray-haired white woman who can’t run very fast. I like to argue on my own turf.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:47:31pm

re: #75 Kragar

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Because as Jesus famously said, “FUCK THOSE PEOPLE!”. Such a pious man that tRump, man of god.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:47:54pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:48:08pm

re: #62 Kragar

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:49:50pm

re: #80 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Yes a master, and he is still waiting for his opponent to king him.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:51:35pm

80 Plastic Bags Found Inside Dead Whale
We find wind-blown plastic bags in the trees even out here in the xenoburbs. Most probably come from I-20 though some migrate all the way from Dallas. I call them “Walmart tumbleweeds”

(In other news, “Dead Mobster Found Inside 80 Plastic Bags”)

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:53:50pm

re: #75 Kragar

This seems like one more thing the Women’s March organizers should get on.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:54:13pm

Another day in the George Zimmerman state.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:56:42pm

re: #82 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

80 Plastic Bags Found Inside Dead Whale
We find wind-blown plastic bags in the trees even out here in the xenoburbs. Most probably come from I-20 though some migrate all the way from Dallas. I call them “Walmart tumbleweeds”

(In other news, “Dead Mobster Found Inside 80 Plastic Bags”)

In 1993 I took a canoe trip with friends on the upper reaches of the Volga down to Rzhev. One image that struck with me was a woman coming down to her dock out into the river to wash out her plastic bag and hang it up to dry.

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dangerman  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:56:49pm

re: #44 wrenchwench

Had I been there, I’da said, ‘Well get up there!’

People need to find out there will be pushback. I respect that not all can be so forthright, I also understand that I can, so I must.

precisely my thought
call their bluff

“a hangin’ tree? wow. lets go have a look at it and you can tell me what you have in mind”

you know they’d have rolled up the windows and drove off

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:56:51pm

Trump’s approval is up because the unemployment figures, at least the raw ones, are down. That will change when trade war layoffs begin to bite.

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2018 • 12:58:25pm

re: #84 Dr. Matt

Yep, gotta be a white guy or he’d be dead already.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:00:44pm

re: #88 William Lewis

That’s a bingo.

Gary Wayne Lindsey Jr., 35, seen here in a booking mugshot from a prior arrest, is suspected of shooting Orlando police Officer Kevin Valencia during a domestic battery call early Monday. (Volusia County Branch Jail)
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dangerman  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:00:52pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Why Samantha Bee’s apology to Ivanka didn’t go far enough, ignoring the down-in-the-gutter incest joke

No Howard.

You’re focusing on the words. A word is not a thing.
You are purposly ignoring the outrageous humanitarian crisis the words were addressing.

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KGxvi  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:04:44pm

re: #72 JordanRules

I can see why… if I came across one of those, I’d be telling the rest of the clan to turn back

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KGxvi  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:05:45pm

re: #74 Kragar

This all really goes back to the White House Correspondents’ Dinner from 2011, doesn’t it?

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Dr. Matt  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:06:06pm

And in other Florida news….

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Kragar  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:07:28pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:07:44pm

re: #92 KGxvi

This all really goes back to the White House Correspondents’ Dinner from 2011, doesn’t it?

It goes back to the election in 2008…

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JordanRules  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:08:43pm
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KGxvi  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:09:15pm

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It goes back to the election in 2008…

I just meant the Trump specific part of all of this. I mean, if you want to extrapolate back far enough, it’s probably all the Romans’ fault anyway.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:10:11pm

re: #97 KGxvi

I just meant the Trump specific part of all of this. I mean, if you want to extrapolate back far enough, it’s probably all the Romans’ fault anyway.

Not that far back, I would say that it started with Lincoln calling up the troops to put down the Secessionists…

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dangerman  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:10:22pm

re: #97 KGxvi

I just meant the Trump specific part of all of this. I mean, if you want to extrapolate back far enough, it’s probably all the Romans’ fault anyway.

i blame that short nosed bear in re: #72 JordanRules

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JordanRules  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:11:01pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:11:19pm
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JordanRules  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:11:28pm

re: #99 dangerman

i blame that short nosed bear in

Somebody gets it!

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:12:30pm

re: #93 Dr. Matt

And in other Florida news….

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And here I thought it was special the other evening when I got home from work and discovered a turtle laying eggs in my front yard. (I have a lawn chair placed strategically to prevent any disturbance). Terrapene ornata. en.wikipedia.org

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:13:00pm

re: #100 JordanRules

Let me know which group is filing a lawsuit so I can donate.

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dangerman  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:13:25pm

re: #100 JordanRules

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here sessions conflates legit asyulm seekers with “unauthorized immigrants”

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JordanRules  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:13:48pm
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KGxvi  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:14:59pm

re: #98 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Not that far back, I would say that it started with Lincoln calling up the troops to put down the Secessionists…

Old joke in the humanities… if you don’t know the cause of something after 1900, blame the Industrial Revolution; if before 1900, blame the Romans.

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wrenchwench  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:16:23pm

re: #103 William Lewis

And here I thought it was special the other evening when I got home from work and discovered a turtle laying eggs in my front yard. (I have a lawn chair placed strategically to prevent any disturbance). Terrapene ornata. en.wikipedia.org

Got your little ‘welcome, hatchling’ signs ready?

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gocart mozart  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:17:07pm
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:17:20pm

re: #77 wrenchwench

So true. I haven’t been in a physical altercation since my younger brother got big enough to fight back. I pick my battles to keep them verbal. I also know that some day I could find myself over my head. I’m a small, gray-haired white woman who can’t run very fast. I like to argue on my own turf.

I’m not that big and lots of times I don’t think before I jump into it with someone because I.can’t.even. Having a look like I’m crazy and don’t care if I get hurt while I make sure the other person knows they got into it with me works a lot in my favor.

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wrenchwench  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:19:43pm

re: #110 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I’m not that big and lots of times I don’t think before I jump into it with someone because I.can’t.even. Having a look like I’m crazy and don’t care if I get hurt while make sure the other person knows they got into it with me works a lot in my favor.

We play with the cards we’re dealt. Sometimes we win.

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Kragar  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:20:39pm

re: #109 gocart mozart

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Its spelled with an e, not an i

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:21:09pm

re: #97 KGxvi

I just meant the Trump specific part of all of this. I mean, if you want to extrapolate back far enough, it’s probably all the Romans’ fault anyway.

Trump started this when he spouted birther nonsense before the 2011 WHCD. He has always been a vicious thin skinned bully whose only goal in life is seeking revenge on anyone who criticizes him. He can dish it out but has no humor or grace in accepting any slights. He is evil and corrupt to his core — as is his entire cabinet (except Mattis). Maybe if Obama had not slammed him so mercilessly, he would not have run. Or if elected, he would not have made it his mission to repeal every action of Obama’s. But who knows?

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:21:17pm

re: #112 Kragar

Its spelled with an e, not an i

and 3 k’s

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:21:30pm

re: #108 wrenchwench

Got your little ‘welcome, hatchling’ signs ready?

Around here, I’m more likely to set up miniature AAA canon to defend the turtle hatchlings from the crows as they run for the pond ;)

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KGxvi  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:22:21pm

re: #105 dangerman

here sessions conflates legit asyulm seekers with “unauthorized immigrants”

I’m not sure many of them ever really believed in asylum.

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:25:08pm

re: #116 KGxvi

I’m not sure many of them ever really believed in asylum.

Brown people entering the country are not allowed asylum according to Sessions.

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meteor  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:25:15pm

re: #23 ipsos

It’s not just you.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:25:41pm

re: #28 Kragar

[Embedded content]

HE WENT ON A SUNDAY WHEN GUD CHRISHUNS R IN CHURCH!!!1!!!

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ipsos  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:25:41pm

re: #118 meteor

It’s not just you.

(((meteor)))

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meteor  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:26:25pm
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JordanRules  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:28:49pm
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Jack Burton  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:29:49pm

re: #105 dangerman

here sessions conflates legit asyulm seekers with “unauthorized immigrants”

Any pretense that they have had where they pretended to be OK with legal immigration and only opposed to illegal as well as any ability to differentiate between types of immigration (other than brown not brown) was always bullshit. They are basically the No-Nothings in the 21st century. I’m just waiting for them to start unhinged ranting about Freemasons or Catholics in public now.

As soon as neo-nazis started showing up to illegal immigration protests and they weren’t shown the door immediately, that theater was over. (and this happened way before Trump)

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:31:00pm

re: #72 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

if Trump saw this, he’d say, “That’s what we need on the border!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:31:06pm

re: #122 JordanRules

There’s a sort of glaring contradiction involved in labeling MS-13 public enemy number one while also maintaining that people fleeing MS-13 aren’t legitimate refugees.

You hear that here about Syrian refugees: “Why aren’t they staying there and fighting for their country?”

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garzooma  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:32:38pm

re: #87 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Trump’s approval is up because the unemployment figures, at least the raw ones, are down. That will change when trade war layoffs begin to bite.

The markets seem to be taking the rhetoric in stride. I suspect it’s because as far as actions go, we’re seeing $16B in tariffs for multi-trillion dollar economies — it’s more trade “spitballing” then “war”.

Of course, the markets could drop 10% tomorrow. Then we’d know we’re in trouble.

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Kragar  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:34:48pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:36:29pm

re: #127 Kragar

f they bleep out Deniro saying “Fuck Trump” how they hell are they going to be able to air a video of sean hannity giving a blowjob to Donald Trump?

The point of the interview will be to guarantee that no matter what happens, this is sold as a huuuuuge win for America and proof of Trumps Presidentiality.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:37:01pm

re: #105 dangerman

here sessions conflates legit asyulm seekers with “unauthorized immigrants”

It was never about legality; its always been about skin color.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:39:03pm
131
Citizen K  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:39:13pm

re: #100 JordanRules

I’ve said it before, but it bears repeating in this instance: we’ve truly become a nation of monsters.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:41:03pm

re: #131 Citizen K

I’ve said it before, but it bears repeating in this instance: we’ve truly become a nation of monsters.

we have become a nation in which monsters have taken control.

remember that they never had a majority of voters, just a majority of electoral and congressional votes because our system is skewered in their favor

but that’s all it takes

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gocart mozart  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:41:07pm

re: #112 Kragar

Son of a bitch!

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KGxvi  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:42:27pm

re: #131 Citizen K

I’ve said it before, but it bears repeating in this instance: we’ve truly become a nation of monsters.

The monsters have been on Maple Street for decades.

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Kragar  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:42:29pm
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Teukka  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:42:41pm

“This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.”
— Adm Josh Painter, “Hunt for Red October”.

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wrenchwench  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:44:08pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

[…American court stenographers, who squander freedom of the press every day.]

The press does not cover Trump, they cover up for Trump.

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dangerman  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:49:17pm

re: #135 Kragar

Even if this money supposedly went to other NRA “Programs”, it would have allowed the NRA to shift money they got from US sources out of supporting those programs, and shift it to supporting Trump.

the r’s declared that ‘money is fungible” wrt planned parenthood

i believe the hoisting of a petard might now be involved here

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makeitstop  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:54:21pm

This guy needs a smack on the head.

About two months before he won the Republican primary in New Jersey’s southern Second Congressional District, candidate Seth Grossman told those gathered at a GOP campaign forum on April 21 that “diversity is a bunch of crap” and an “un-American” concept.

In a chaotic series of statements, Grossman implied that America was “great” before Affirmative Action and before women worked and then claimed that African Americans would profit off of stronger immigration enforcement.

You’re not gonna actually elect this cretin, are ya, Jersey?

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:54:30pm

re: #138 dangerman

the r’s declared that ‘money is fungible” wrt planned parenthood

i believe the hoisting of a petard might now be involved here

I think a full accounting of their money operation is in order.

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makeitstop  Jun 11, 2018 • 1:55:13pm

re: #140 Belafon

I think a full accounting of their money operation is in order.

And an asset freeze, until we find out what the hell is going on.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:02:07pm

re: #135 Kragar

almost forgot about Sheriff Bling

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dangerman  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:06:38pm

re: #142 Sir John Barron

almost forgot about Sheriff Bling

in the room.
with photos!

his future just got….altered

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JordanRules  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:07:20pm
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BeachDem  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:08:06pm

re: #131 Citizen K

I’ve said it before, but it bears repeating in this instance: we’ve truly become a nation of monsters.

The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill, and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own for the children, and the children yet unborn. And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight Zone.

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wrenchwench  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:09:11pm

re: #115 William Lewis

Around here, I’m more likely to set up miniature AAA canon to defend the turtle hatchlings from the crows as they run for the pond ;)

Previously:

(I have a lawn chair placed strategically to prevent any disturbance)

Borrow every lawn chair in the neighborhood, and maybe from over in the next neighborhood, and make a covered path for them! No crow will venture under a lawn chair! Oh, wait. I hear turtles are really tasty…

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Teukka  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:10:28pm

re: #145 BeachDem

The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices to be found only in the minds of men. For the record, prejudices can kill, and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own for the children, and the children yet unborn. And the pity of it is that these things cannot be confined to the Twilight Zone.

My favorite Twilight Zone quote is:
“Where will he go next, this phantom from another time, this resurrected ghost of a previous nightmare - Chicago? Los Angeles? Miami, Florida? Vincennes, Indiana? Syracuse, New York? Anyplace, everyplace, where there’s hate, where there’s prejudice, where there’s bigotry. He’s alive. He’s alive so long as these evils exist. Remember that when he comes to your town. Remember it when you hear his voice speaking out through others. Remember it when you hear a name called, a minority attacked, any blind, unreasoning assault on a people or any human being. He’s alive because through these things we keep him alive.”
— Episode “He’s Alive”

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dangerman  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:11:47pm

washpo greg sargent opinion column

Trumpism is all lies, lies, lies.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:16:24pm

re: #126 garzooma

The markets seem to be taking the rhetoric in stride. I suspect it’s because as far as actions go, we’re seeing $16B in tariffs for multi-trillion dollar economies — it’s more trade “spitballing” then “war”.

Of course, the markets could drop 10% tomorrow. Then we’d know we’re in trouble.

I think it will be much more than that, and that is only the beginning, the margin that can make or break many export dependent businesses.
Trump’s trade policies could cost the US 2.6 million jobs, Chamber of Commerce estimates

Here’s how the possible job losses break down, according to the Chamber:

134,000 from tariffs on imports from China
470,000 from tariffs on steel and aluminum
157,000 from tariffs on autos and auto parts.
1.8 million from a withdrawal from NAFTA.

Addendum: We probably won’t feel the bite on this until early next year. The GOP is betting on this in the midterms.

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Nyet  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:20:06pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:21:24pm
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Varek Raith  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:21:31pm

Jury duty?!

*Insert long list of expletives here*

153
Varek Raith  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:22:26pm

re: #150 Nyet

Done.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:24:05pm

re: #153 Varek Raith

Done.

Same here.

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ipsos  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:25:17pm

re: #154 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Same here.

Me three. Ewwww.

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JordanRules  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:26:05pm

I forgot all about this guy.

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JordanRules  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:28:15pm
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CarolJ  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:30:15pm

re: #7 JordanRules
They simply can’t be grownups, which is why most of them need to act like this. Carrying openly rifles like they live in warlord parts of the world instead of suburban America? Cage matches as if that settles real issues? They are defending the indefensible which is why they act like toddlers and their Toddler in chief.
Notice how they go right to “confiscation”, like the gun reform advocates want nothing less than to take their binkies away from them. Nobody so far wants to go in that direction, or to abolish the Second Amendment. But even suggesting that those who are clearly not fit, either temporarily or permanently, to not carry, and those who are fit, do so responsibly, is too much for these children.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:30:23pm

re: #139 makeitstop

This guy needs a smack on the head.

You’re not gonna actually elect this cretin, are ya, Jersey?

I think this is going to be a bad election cycle for the GOP in New Jersey.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:34:38pm
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JordanRules  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:38:19pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Lolwut?

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electrotek  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:38:31pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

lol what teh fuck??

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:39:09pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

More like General area of the Black Sea for Trump.

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JordanRules  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:41:06pm
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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:41:47pm

re: #157 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

The people & biz of Kentucky? Why would he give a fuck about that when he’s busy helping the Koch Bros and the rest destroy what remains of the US?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:42:14pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

You’re gay? That’s the best this bot can do? You’re slacking Vlad.

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dangerman  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:43:01pm

re: #158 CarolJ

They simply can’t be grownups, which is why most of them need to act like this. Carrying openly rifles like they live in warlord parts of the world instead of suburban America? Cage matches as if that settles real issues? They are defending the indefensible which is why they act like toddlers and their Toddler in chief.
Notice how they go right to “confiscation”, like the gun reform advocates want nothing less than to take their binkies away from them. Nobody so far wants to go in that direction, or to abolish the Second Amendment. But even suggesting that those who are clearly not fit, either temporarily or permanently, to not carry, and those who are fit, do so responsibly, is too much for these children.

a comment by Shiplord Kirel in 2015 or 2016 brought me out of lurking and helped make me the lizard i am today. He wrote

“Any attempt at gun control, no matter how modest or reasonable, will fail because of the pervasive nature of the conspiracy theory that underlies practically all right wing thinking on the issue.”

as to the italics above, - what they want are no consequences. no responsibility for anyone or anything. at all.
- more and more i am convinced that a big fear is that they will “become” one of the irresponsible. i dont mean the deep state is going to manufacture lies and frame them. i mean they will screw up, and thus become targets of the laws made for the irresponsible, reckless and dangerous. because they have demonstrated they are irresponsible, reckless and/or dangerous.

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dangerman  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:45:47pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

Yea Charley and never did you ever talk like men do, unless of course youre gay then it wouldn’t be the same but it would still be boy talk.

hey, it’s all good
he’s agreeing
calling deNiro’s comments “boy talk”
no?
trumps was boy talk
deNiro’s not a boy? wasn’t talking? i mean what else is there?

169
HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:47:40pm

re: #168 dangerman

hey, it’s all good
he’s agreeing
calling deNiro’s comments “boy talk”
no?
trumps was boy talk
deNiro’s not a boy? wasn’t talking? i mean what else is there?

“I came at her like a bitch.” No man I’ve ever talked to talks that way. Maybe overgrown frat boys but they’re a slim minority. Trump talks about women like he does everything else like an ignorant moron. Truth is no woman would want anything to do with his sorry ass if he were poor.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:47:55pm

re: #151 Charles Johnson

First question: Mister Awesome MAGA President Trump, why are you so awesome and former president Obama sucks?

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steve_davis  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:49:26pm

re: #72 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

“and they have a cave troll!”

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Sir John Barron  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:50:46pm

re: #170 Sir John Barron

First question: Mister Awesome MAGA President Trump, why are you so awesome and former president Obama sucks?

second question: Mr. President, doesn’t this summit prove what a hoax the Russian investigation is?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:53:49pm

re: #172 Sir John Barron

second question: Mr. President, doesn’t this summit prove what a hoax the Russian investigation is?

Third question, Mr. Trump, why won’t Democrats let you make America great again?

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Jack Burton  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:54:04pm

re: #172 Sir John Barron

second question: Mr. President, doesn’t this summit prove what a hoax the Russian investigation is?

4th question: Did you make sure everyone knew about your inauguration crowd size?

edited for number

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Sir John Barron  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:55:35pm

re: #173 HappyWarrior

Third question, Mr. Trump, why won’t Democrats let you make America great again?

Howie Kurtz: That was a tough, but fair interview of Drumpf by Sean Hannity. Liberal media should take note of how it should be done.

//

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sagehen  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:55:54pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Joined Twitter December 2017
following 5
3 followers

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Sir John Barron  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:56:56pm

re: #176 sagehen

Joined Twitter December 2017
following 5
3 followers

sounds legit.

//

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HappyWarrior  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:57:05pm

re: #175 Sir John Barron

Howie Kurtz: That was a tough, but fair interview of Drumpf by Sean Hannity. Liberal media should take note of how it should be done.

//

Nah that question is too tough for Lumpy. Lumpy’s would be something like “Will we be going to McDonalds or KFC after I tongue bathe you?”

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Jack Burton  Jun 11, 2018 • 2:58:25pm

re: #176 sagehen

Joined Twitter December 2017
following 5
3 followers

звучит законно

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 11, 2018 • 3:04:57pm

Сделайте Америку прекрасной

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 11, 2018 • 11:03:19pm

re: #135 Kragar

Even if this money supposedly went to other NRA “Programs”, it would have allowed the NRA to shift money they got from US sources out of supporting those programs, and shift it to supporting Trump.

Net effect: Russian money was used to help Trump.

Just like money donated to a Catholic orphans’ fund frees up other resources to pay court settlements for child molesters…


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