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Kragar  Jun 13, 2018 • 12:29:59am

“How good of a location is that? You have China and South Korea, and he is right and the middle of both of them. Surrounded by water. OK?” Trump continued. “There’s — that’s called, like -“

“Para-” Hannity began, stopping short of saying the brutal dictatorship is “like paradise.”

“Could there be anything better than that?” Trump said. “It’s also beautiful land,” Trump continued. “Incredible land. I think he understands that, I told him about that today and I think he really understands it.”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 13, 2018 • 12:39:14am

re: #1 Kragar

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Anybody left who went through the retreat from the Yalu could tell him what beautiful land it is…but I suppose they’re mostly tRumporrhoids nowadays.

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JordanRules  Jun 13, 2018 • 12:42:33am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 12:45:09am

This was suggested here a few days ago but we have come one step closer:

The new alliance of China, Russia, America and North Korea. CRANK

(They should also add Yemen)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 13, 2018 • 12:45:35am

re: #3 JordanRules

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Maybe MPRraccoon can replace Pizza Rat as the new animal hero….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 12:53:17am

fixated on raccoons trapped in a skyscraper and ignoring children kept in cages

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Cheechako  Jun 13, 2018 • 12:58:14am

re: #4 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This was suggested here a few days ago but we have come one step closer:

The new alliance of China, Russia, America and North Korea. CRANK

(They should also add Yemen)

CRANKY

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Targetpractice  Jun 13, 2018 • 12:58:34am

re: #1 Kragar

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The man truly is viewing this as nothing more than a business opportunity. If Kim offered to let him build Trump Tower Pyongyang by lunch today, we’d have “peace” by dinnertime.

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Kragar  Jun 13, 2018 • 1:00:04am
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Kragar  Jun 13, 2018 • 1:08:57am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 1:11:43am

re: #9 Kragar

Please stop talking about how this is better than war. Of course it is. But the “war vs. diplomacy” narrative is Trump’s narrative. In 2016 no one talked of war with NK. Trump then threatened war. Now he doesn’t get credit for diplomacy, which he should have done from the start.

I cannot recall source of quote but it goes like : “A politician is someone who stands up, rocks the boat and then tells you he is the only one who can save us from the impending storm!”

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 13, 2018 • 1:21:37am

re: #10 Kragar

Trump is trying to make history by praising a dictator and musing about tourism in a dictatorship.

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Targetpractice  Jun 13, 2018 • 1:28:44am

re: #9 Kragar

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The bar has been lowered so far that it’s become embedded in the Earth’s mantle. Trump is supposed to now get credit for easing the region back from a war he was provoking, and for signing a worthless document that is hailed as the “beginning” of negotiations when the lead-up sold the whole “summit” as leading to a deal that would end NK as a nuclear power.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 1:30:27am

Ted Cruz: Border Separation ‘Inevitable’ When Violating Law

Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, on Monday defended family separation at the border, saying the Trump administration’s controversial policy cannot be avoided when people illegally cross the border.

Applying for asylum is not illegal…

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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 1:42:57am

re: #14 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If Cruz wouldn’t even defend his own father against Trump’s accusations, why would we expect him to defend some poor stranger?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 2:08:55am

re: #15 freetoken

If Cruz wouldn’t even defend his own father against Trump’s accusations, why would we expect him to defend some poor stranger?

They are playing on the fact that people do not distinguish between illegal entry and applying for asylum.

Just like the fact that children who enter with their parents might be illegal, but are not criminals as they are still minors.

Too much nuance for the shouting match that is modern political discourse.

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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 2:13:18am

Continuing with the SBC drama… there is such a cloud of pretense that surrounds the entire culture of the SBC and American evangelicalism, especially in the South.

The SBC, besides its long history of racism, was also against women’s suffrage.

So it’s no wonder that they are still spinning in circles about “feminism”.

Anyway, the BBC is celebrating the 100th anniversary of universal suffrage in the UK:

BBC to mark 100 years since women won the vote in landmark Hear Her season

One of the shows is a special edition of Who Do You Think You Are, featuring the uncannily pretty actress Michelle Keegan. The IMDB photo doesn’t do her justice; through the eye of a good photographer she is stunningly pretty, something about which we normal folk are not so fortunate.

She’s of special interest to the BBC because she’s a Manchester girl, sounds like it when she speaks, and if it wasn’t for her beauty and grace would seem fit for a factory girl in the old days. And one of her great grandmothers was a suffragette, so that fits into the special series on women’s right to vote.

Yet the first-half of the WDYTYA show is about Michelle’s mother’s mother’s mother, who came from Gibralter.

Now, Michelle herself is rather dark skinned for someone from northern England, with dark eyes and dark hair.

Anyway, long story short, she goes to Gibraltar and finds out that many of her great grandmother’s ancestors came from Italy. Along the way, the BBC gets to throw in the obligatory WWII stories (complete with film of The Blitz), England taking Gibraltar from Spain, etc.

To tie this all together - Michelle’s story and ancestors tick off a lot of boxes about UK history (which of course is why the special edition of WDYTYA was made.) One of immigration, of war, and of women fighting to overcome.

So now we come back to the SBC and their history of fighting against women.

One thing at which the patriarchs in the SBC are so poor at is learning from history. They are still carrying the carcasses of their ancestors bad teachings.

And this is why can’t-be-left-alone-in-a-room-with-a-woman Pence is speaking to them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 2:16:14am

re: #17 freetoken

Continuing with the SBC drama… there is such a cloud of pretense that surrounds the entire culture of the SBC and American evangelicalism, especially in the South.

The SBC, besides its long history of racism, was also against women’s suffrage.


And this is why can’t-be-left-alone-in-a-room-with-a-woman Pence is speaking to them.

We cannot take any of the advances we have made in women’s, minority or LGBT rights for granted especially as long as we see that there are major organizations and highly-placed politicians who would like to return things to what they were 50 years ago or earlier…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 2:35:15am

From what I read, Pence not being allowed alone in a room with another woman is more a matter of avoiding any potential chance of being blackmailed, as that had been the case with several prominent fundamentalist figures.

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dangerman  Jun 13, 2018 • 2:44:15am

re: #8 Targetpractice

The man truly is viewing this as nothing more than a business opportunity. If Kim offered to let him build Trump Tower Pyongyang by lunch today, we’d have “peace total capitulation ” by dinnertime.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 2:46:37am

re: #8 Targetpractice

The man truly is viewing this as nothing more than a business opportunity. If Kim offered to let him build Trump Tower Pyongyang by lunch today, we’d have “peace” by dinnertime.

I mentioned this earlier, but I can see China and South Korea cooperating to turn North Korea into a source of cheap manufacturing labor for the world market. People there would live moderately better from it but not really see the benefits of their labor.

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dangerman  Jun 13, 2018 • 2:54:58am

re: #14 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Ted Cruz: Border Separation ‘Inevitable’ When Violating Law

Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, on Monday defended family separation at the border, saying the Trump administration’s controversial policy cannot be avoided when people illegally cross the border.

Applying for asylum is not illegal…

and separating families can easily be avoided.

it’s a choice

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 2:57:27am

re: #22 dangerman

and separating families can easily be avoided.

it’s a choice

and a conscious decision for purposes of deterrence

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 13, 2018 • 2:59:50am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 13, 2018 • 3:00:19am

re: #3 JordanRules

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 13, 2018 • 3:41:59am

re: #24 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 13, 2018 • 3:59:23am

Yeah, the edit button is what’s wrong with twitter…..

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 13, 2018 • 4:09:58am

re: #26 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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jeffreyw  Jun 13, 2018 • 4:10:03am

Imgur


Good morning!

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makeitstop  Jun 13, 2018 • 4:14:25am
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 13, 2018 • 4:14:44am

Asked why he left Singapore early, Trump said that he liked to travel at night and wanted to get home, and that he had accomplished everything anyway. Earlier said that he didn’t have time to get NK promise to destroy missile site in writing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 4:18:09am

re: #31 Barefoot Grin

Asked why he left Singapore early, Trump said that he liked to travel at night and wanted to get home, and that he had accomplished everything anyway. Earlier said that he didn’t have time to get NK promise to destroy missile site in writing.

Trump said whatever came into his mind at the time. He knows he can do so without facing any serious consequences because nobody in the press will call him out on it and he has a staff of people to sort out and explain what he really said/meant.

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William Lewis  Jun 13, 2018 • 4:26:47am

Goddamn. People worry about a fucking raccoon but don’t give a fuck about kids in concentration camps, ripped from their parents. I’m near ready to give up just from that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 4:29:59am

re: #33 William Lewis

Goddamn. People worry about a fucking raccoon but don’t give a fuck about kids in concentration camps, ripped from their parents. I’m near ready to give up just from that.

they’re counting on that.

Squirrel!!!

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 13, 2018 • 4:30:20am

re: #21 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I mentioned this earlier, but I can see China and South Korea cooperating to turn North Korea into a source of cheap manufacturing labor for the world market. People there would live moderately better from it but not really see the benefits of their labor.

This is the thought I keep coming up with. LOTS of very cheap labor and no restrictions on how much like a slave you can treat them. An industrialists paradise (to borrow a word from Sean for NK).

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 13, 2018 • 4:33:46am

re: #32 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump said whatever came into his mind at the time. He knows he can do so without facing any serious consequences because nobody in the press will call him out on it and he has a staff of people to sort out and explain what he really said/meant.

True, though it appears he spoke about it with Putin earlier. The problem with China and SK turning NK into a source of cheap labor is the Kim dynasty. It’s legitimacy derives entirely from the long mishmash of Juche ideology. Take that away and there’s no reason for a Kim-family leadership. I can’t see that going away without some violence.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 4:58:42am

re: #36 Barefoot Grin

True, though it appears he spoke about it with Putin earlier. The problem with China and SK turning NK into a source of cheap labor is the Kim dynasty. It’s legitimacy derives entirely from the long mishmash of Juche ideology. Take that away and there’s no reason for a Kim-family leadership. I can’t see that going away without some violence.

Unless they buy the Kim family off and let them rule as figureheads.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 4:58:57am

Lre: #31 Barefoot Grin

Asked why he left Singapore early, Trump said that he liked to travel at night and wanted to get home, and that he had accomplished everything anyway. Earlier said that he didn’t have time to get NK promise to destroy missile site in writing.

He got his photo op and Kim’s praise.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 4:59:35am

re: #35 Eventual Carrion

This is the thought I keep coming up with. LOTS of very cheap labor and no restrictions on how much like a slave you can treat them. An industrialists paradise (to borrow a word from Sean for NK).

And even living like Chinese workers in the 90’s would be an improvement for a lot of North Koreans.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:00:53am

re: #37 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Unless they buy the Kim family off and let them rule as figureheads.

Money isn’t an issue for the Kims. TBH I have no idea how to solve Korea but the solution definitely should not be to make NK a cash cow for wealthy interests.

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I cannot.  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:03:29am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:03:50am

re: #1 Kragar

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Lumpy- Propagandist. Do these guys know anything about NK? The weather is brutal there. I still remember my grandfather- a Korean War vet describing the brutal winters. Trump just sees NK as a possible money maker. No concern for the people there who have suffered first under Japanese rule and now the Kim rule.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:19:25am

re: #40 HappyWarrior

Money isn’t an issue for the Kims. TBH I have no idea how to solve Korea but the solution definitely should not be to make NK a cash cow for wealthy interests.

it is the least optimal but most likely scenario

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dangerman  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:20:53am

re: #24 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Just landed - a long trip, but everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office. There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea. Meeting with Kim Jong Un was an interesting and very positive experience. North Korea has great potential for the future!

what a bonehead thing to say
there is still a threat as long as NK still has the same nuke inventory they had yesterday

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A Mom Anon  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:22:01am

re: #33 William Lewis

This is a media problem. I have long thought some of our actions/protests etc, need to focus on media outlets but it never seems to happen. I also don’t think enough people outside of Texas know this is happening. It’s not being hammered on in the media and we all know shit fades from view quickly these days unless it’s in your face.

One other thing, I don’t know about anyone else, but my depression and anxiety have been off the charts over the last couple of years. This little raccoon sparked interest because we want something happy to latch on to right now. We can multi task and care about kids and little raccoons at the same time. I don’t disagree that kids in fucking prison camps should be screaming from every news outlet all the damned time til this never happens again, but the news could give a fuck. I think bugging the fuck out of every media group from local to national needs to be happening and it’s not.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:23:35am

re: #43 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

it is the least optimal but most likely scenario

And ultra capitalists will continue to be perplexed why socialism exists.

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dangerman  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:24:01am

re: #31 Barefoot Grin

Asked why he left Singapore early, Trump said that he liked to travel at night and wanted to get home, and that he had accomplished everything anyway. Earlier said that he didn’t have time to get NK promise to destroy missile site in writing.

as i understand it, the 2 actually talked for less than 45 minutes. with translation time, that’s maybe 20 minutes of real ‘talking’.

they got nothing done

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dangerman  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:25:21am

re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

they’re counting on that.

Squirrel!!!

is that what theyre calling raccoons now?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:25:54am

re: #46 HappyWarrior

And ultra capitalists will continue to be perplexed why socialism exists.

we had a golden age of capitalism in which we had to keep a human face on it so it could compete ideologically with socialism. and we had to invest in education in order to keep up with the socialist states.

but now that facade of humanity has collapsed, and rather than being seen as investments in a healthy and productive work force and society, things like education, health care, safety and environmental protection are simply seen as cost factors to me minimized or eliminated entirely to increase the bottom line.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:26:15am

re: #48 dangerman

is that what theyre calling raccoons now?

honey badger!

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:26:30am

re: #1 Kragar

Friend of mine posted something on FB contrasting how negatively Fox News “reported” on President Obama’s talk of potentially meeting with “enemies” like NK and how slobbering they were over DJT meeting with Kim yesterday.

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I cannot.  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:27:41am

re: #48 dangerman

Raccoons are trash pandas now.

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dangerman  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:28:38am

re: #50 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

honey badger!

well he dont care

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:28:54am

re: #31 Barefoot Grin

Asked why he left Singapore early, Trump said that he liked to travel at night and wanted to get home, and that he had accomplished everything anyway. Earlier said that he didn’t have time to get NK promise to destroy missile site in writing.

I get things done fast, OK. We will verify. Believe me. Defeated TOTALLY UNLOYAL Sanford yesterday in Carolina.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:29:53am

re: #24 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

See, NK was about to nuke us all unto DJT showed up.

///

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A Mom Anon  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:31:05am

When I was around 10 or 11 I ended up with a 4 week old baby raccoon as a pet. My dad and a friend of his found it on his friend’s land, someone had set steel leg hold traps on the property that killed the mother. I bottle fed and raised him to age 2 and had to let him go in the woods behind our house after he went after my Mom for yelling at me. He was sweet and very smart. I saw him around sometimes for a couple months after that and then he disappeared. I hope he made it, he was a great part of my growing up. Taught me a lot about the difference between wild and domestic animals and respect for both.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:31:49am

re: #10 Kragar

And now, exactly 31 years later, @realDonaldTrump is making history as well.

— GOP

Barf

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:33:52am

re: #1 Kragar

“Para-” Hannity began, stopping short of saying the brutal dictatorship is “like paradise.”

Sometimes I wonder what it would be like to totally live without an ounce of shame.

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Bubblehead II  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:34:25am

re: #47 dangerman

as i understand it, the 2 actually talked for less than 45 minutes. with translation time, that’s maybe 20 minutes of real ‘talking’.

they got nothing done

Actually Kim walked away from that meeting with a propaganda gold mine. We on the other hand got nothing and have put our Allies in the region in even more danger just so tRump could have his “Nixon” moment.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:34:35am

re: #1 Kragar

I can’t wait until DJT goes to Cuba.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:36:39am

re: #60 Sir John Barron

I can’t wait until DJT goes to Cuba.

They have great beaches there, fabulous weather. Great potential. Paradise.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:36:57am

re: #60 Sir John Barron

I can’t wait until DJT goes to Cuba.

He will assure that the Russians remove their missiles!!!

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makeitstop  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:39:18am

This guy actually won a GOP primary yesterday.

Edited to put it behind a button, because…gah.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:40:28am

re: #34 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

they’re counting on that.

SquirrelRaccoon!!!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:44:43am

re: #48 dangerman

is that what theyre calling raccoons now?

Ya beat me to it.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:48:44am

re: #61 Sir John Barron

They have great beaches there, fabulous weather. Great potential. Paradise.

Didn’t information surface when Obama was working on normalizing relations with Cuba that suggested that the orange shit-goblin was working backroom deals on hotels in Cuba?

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I cannot.  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:50:57am

re: #63 makeitstop

I’ll give him credit for being so confident with his body…

…but he could use a bit of sunlight…

…and a few bench presses…

…and sweet jesus the hair!

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dangerman  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:54:09am

re: #59 Bubblehead II

Actually Kim walked away from that meeting with a propaganda gold mine. We on the other hand got nothing and have put our Allies in the region in even more danger just so tRump could have his “Nixon” moment.

Of course we got nothing

I meant they didn’t actually talk about anything or agree to anything in a mere 20 minute first meeting

It was all for show

That is if you totally ignore the deal for the trump hotel snd condo project on the beach

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:54:35am

re: #16 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are playing on the fact that people do not distinguish between illegal entry and applying for asylum.

Just like the fact that children who enter with their parents might be illegal, but are not criminals as they are still minors.

Too much nuance for the shouting match that is modern political discourse.

C’mon Texas Voters! Give KKKruz the Beto Veto!

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makeitstop  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:55:52am

re: #67 I cannot.

I’ll give him credit for being so confident with his body…

…but he could use a bit of sunlight…

…and a few bench presses…

…and sweet jesus the hair!

The really weird thing is - that video is the entirety of his web site.

He ran on that. And he won. WTF?

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jeffreyw  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:56:18am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:57:09am

re: #33 William Lewis

Goddamn. People worry about a fucking raccoon but don’t give a fuck about kids in concentration camps, ripped from their parents. I’m near ready to give up just from that.

More proof that Ayn Rand’s selfishness has permeated every aspect of American society thanks to Lewis Powell and his god-damned Master Plan.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:59:57am

re: #63 makeitstop

This guy actually won a GOP primary yesterday.

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Edited to put it behind a button, because…gah.

Can’t be true. Just can’t.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 13, 2018 • 5:59:58am

re: #59 Bubblehead II

Actually Kim walked away from that meeting with a propaganda gold mine. We on the other hand got nothing and have put our Allies in the region in even more danger just so tRump could have his “Nixon” moment.

You won’t hear that from the RepubliKKKlan 24/7 Bullshit Machine. The Machine is cranked up to 12 proclaiming God Trump has won yet another major victory for America!

No doubt all those Southern Fried Baptists are in ecstasy especially after the Prince of Wails Pence comes before his adoring Pulpit Pimps!

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A Mom Anon  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:01:06am

re: #70 makeitstop

I’m half scared to know if anyone ran against him and how freaking awful they had to have been….

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makeitstop  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:01:40am

re: #72 Joe Bacon 🌹

More proof that Ayn Rand’s selfishness has permeated every aspect of American society thanks to Lewis Powell and his god-damned Master Plan.

You can definitely take the media to task for ignoring an important story. That is true.

But it’s a cute animal story, nothing more. Like Mom said, most of us can enjoy a little cuteness while keeping our eye on the ball.

If only the media could do that.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:03:02am

re: #73 Sir John Barron

Can’t be true. Just can’t.

He won uncontested. I guess the Maine GOP isn’t taking the U.S. Senate race seriously this year. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:03:34am

re: #77 Sir John Barron

He won uncontested. I guess the Maine GOP isn’t taking the U.S. Senate race seriously this year. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

I can’t wait for the inevitable DJT endorsement.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:04:17am

re: #77 Sir John Barron

He won uncontested. I guess the Maine GOP isn’t taking the U.S. Senate race seriously this year. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

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Bubblehead II  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:05:10am

re: #68 dangerman

Of course we got nothing

I meant they didn’t actually talk about anything or agree to anything in a mere 20 minute first meeting

It was all for show

That is if you totally ignore the deal for the trump hotel snd condo project on the beach

Yep. tRump isn’t interested in anything other than finding ways to use the position as POTUS to enrich himself and crime family.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:05:44am

re: #80 Bubblehead II

Yep. tRump isn’t interested in anything other than finding ways to use the position as POTUS to enrich himself and crime family.

and gratifying his ego

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:10:28am

re: #78 Sir John Barron

I can’t wait for the inevitable DJT endorsement.

Some enterprising media member should ask him if he endorses the Maine GOP Senate nominee.

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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:10:47am

Look at who is running in the Maine race for US Senator. Angus King, v. Brakey.

Where is the Democrat?

Oh, someone named Zak Ringelstein. But he doesn’t even have a photo or bio on Wikipedia’s entry on the race:

en.wikipedia.org

Apparently the DNC thinks its not worthy investing in ME.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:13:04am

re: #83 freetoken

Look at who is running in the Maine race for US Senator. Angus King, v. Brakey.

Where is the Democrat?

Oh, someone named Zak Ringelstein. But he doesn’t even have a photo or bio on Wikipedia’s entry on the race:

en.wikipedia.org

Apparently the DNC thinks its not worthy investing in ME.

At least King caucuses with the Dems.

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lawhawk  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:13:24am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

Trumpworld is busy in the spin zone and it’s a frothy mess of nonsensical ravings, and claiming that they got a bunch of concessions from North Korea.

Oh wait. They can’t claim they got concessions from North Korea because they didn’t get any.

Trump gave up concessions and got nothing in return.

It isn’t stopping GOPers from claiming that this is just like Obama’s Iran deal.

JCPOA:
Multiparty talks resulting in a comprehensive agreement that includes oversight, investigation, and means to confirm that Iran is complying with the terms of the deal.

Trump’s “deal”
Trump gives up leverage on NK first denuclearizing before direct talks, then gives up holding joint exercises, for a vague and unenforceable promise that NK will consider giving up nukes some time in the future.

In fact, the Trump deal doesn’t really go as far as prior NK statements to denuclearize the Korean peninsula.

In sum, Trump and Trumpworld think that vague notion of denuclearization is better than a concrete plan to keep Iran from getting nuclear weapons.

It’s total BS of course, but the Trumpworld extremists aren’t into logic or reasoning, and it shows.

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:13:37am

re: #83 freetoken

Look at who is running in the Maine race for US Senator. Angus King, v. Brakey.

Where is the Democrat?

Oh, someone named Zak Ringelstein. But he doesn’t even have a photo or bio on Wikipedia’s entry on the race:

en.wikipedia.org

Apparently the DNC thinks its not worthy investing in ME.

The fact that Angus has pretty much voted and spoke the way Democrats do means there’s not much of a reason.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:14:40am

re: #63 makeitstop

This guy actually won a GOP primary yesterday.

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Edited to put it behind a button, because…gah.

That’s the least offensive thing I’ve seen a Republican do this year.

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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:15:54am

re: #86 Belafon

I guess. But I’m reminded of the Bernie problem, where now the DNC has decided that only Democrats can run in the Democratic primary.

It seems to me that there is a problem with identifying in the Democratic party in New England, other than Massachusetts.

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Danack  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:17:23am

re: #77 Sir John Barron

I guess the Maine GOP isn’t taking the U.S. Senate race seriously this year. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

In the 2012 election, the Republican candidate got 30%, Angus King got over 50% and the Democratic candidate got 12%.

No serious candidate is going to want to spend 6 months of their life campaigning when even in a normal year the odds of them winning would be very slim.

Also, any votes that a Republican candidate would get are almost solely going to come from Angus King. I doubt it’s likely to happen (especially since the Democratic candidate this year is not a heavy weight contender), but there could have been a small chance that enough votes would be taken away from King to allow the real Democrat to win.

i.e. there is no upside for the Republicans to run a serious candidate, and a small chance of a massive downside.

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:21:27am

re: #88 freetoken

I guess. But I’m reminded of the Bernie problem, where now the DNC has decided that only Democrats can run in the Democratic primary.

It seems to me that there is a problem with identifying in the Democratic party in New England, other than Massachusetts.

IIRC, they have currently only applied it to running for president. But, the difference between King and Sanders is that King runs as an independent. Sanders, from what I read the other day, runs as a Democrat and then turns it down after he gets the nomination, which I think is wrong.

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sagehen  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:24:56am

re: #84 Sir John Barron

At least King caucuses with the Dems.

He’s also good on his floor speeches, his media appearances, etc. Democrats have every reason to be plenty satisfied with him.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:26:28am

re: #73 Sir John Barron

Can’t be true. Just can’t.

He’s a libertarian, an actor, and supported Ron Paul for President several years ago. At least he doesn’t seem to be an alt-right Nazi.

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I cannot.  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:28:21am

re: #92 Hecuba’s daughter

And when that is the BEST a Republican can say about themselves…

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Dave In Austin  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:29:16am

I need to ask a question of the group.

Is the word “Appeasement” a valid statement regarding this travesty?

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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:30:49am

re: #94 Dave In Austin

It almost sounds too premeditated.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:31:43am

re: #94 Dave In Austin

I need to ask a question of the group.

Is the word “Appeasement” a valid statement regarding this travesty?

Nothingburger. All Kim got was some propaganda validation, nothing of real substance…not like he got to occupy any territory over it

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Dave In Austin  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:33:03am

re: #95 freetoken

It almost sounds too premeditated.

Surely you jest…. And no I’m not…

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:33:24am

re: #96 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nothingburger. All Kim got was some propaganda validation, nothing of real substance…not like he got to occupy any territory over it

The one real thing Kim got out of it is that it will be harder for any subsequent administration to walk back Trump’s gift of “You, too, are a valid nuclear power.”

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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:35:34am

re: #97 Dave In Austin

Surely you jest…. And no I’m not…

I meant, it would make Trump sound like he thought too much about it.

Trump only knows that he needs attention. I’m not sure if whatever he said to Kim was supposed to be anything else but filler material.

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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:36:09am

The ironic sadness of the whole thing is that Trump thought he was the one who needed the photo-op.

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:36:18am

Also, if, for some reason, Trump does shut down military exercises in the region, China wins, and Japan and South Korea are screwed.

The fact that he cannot see the consequences of his actions beyond how it affects him is a very dangerous aspect, and it’s something he shares with his followers. They have no concept of consequences of their actions beyond the immediate.

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lawhawk  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:37:19am

re: #94 Dave In Austin

I need to ask a question of the group.

Is the word “Appeasement” a valid statement regarding this travesty?

Inaccurate.

I’d go with enabling.

Trump enabled Jong Un’s ongoing course of action. Trump gave up leverage, and North Korea continues to possess nukes and missile tech that allows them to hit the US and our regional allies.

North Korea hasn’t promised to do anything. They merely said that they’d consider acting some indeterminate time in the future, which is the same as always from them.

Trump boosts Jong Un’s stature all while attacking our allies just hours earlier (Canada and rest of the G-7).

Russia and China can’t be happier with this set of events. Trump is singlehandedly trying to end US leadership in world events. That’s not America First. It’s America Alone, and America alone is a weaker and more vulnerable America, whose economy suffers, particularly as Trump pushes idiotic trade wars while ignoring that Russia continues threatening our economy and even our electoral system.

That isn’t just a blind spot for Trump. It goes to Trump’s complicity with Russia.

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dangerman  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:39:14am

re: #96 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nothingburger. All Kim got was some propaganda validation, nothing of real substance…not like he got to occupy any territory over it

The exact word I was about to post

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:41:10am

re: #96 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nothingburger. All Kim got was some propaganda validation, nothing of real substance…not like he got to occupy any territory over it

That and the word “appeasement” tends to get thrown around rather indiscriminately.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:44:17am

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:44:49am

re: #104 Sir John Barron

That and the word “appeasement” tends to get thrown around rather indiscriminately.

If Trump pulled a Munich Agreement with Kim Jong-un and handed over South Korea to be annexed to the DPRK, yeah…..that would certainly be appeasement by any definition of the word.

This is just your more-or-less typical Trumpian idiocy.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:44:57am

The real danger is that I’m not sure that the N Korean regime fully understands they were dealing with a genuinely crazy person. Like, off the charts batshit orange skin insane.

Trump is a crazy person who will order a military strike if he feels personally insulted and backed into a corner. Trump backed himself into a corner by giving a massive concession by halting military exercises with no formal considerations from the N Korean side.

This whole charade however is Trump following through on his campaign rhetoric on pulling US forces back home from around the world. If I were S Korea, I would be shitting my pants right about now. Same goes for Israel with the latest statements floating the idea that magically Iran’s leadership has changed in the last few months. Israel is going to be redoubling their lobby efforts trying to sink any large US pullout from the region but the ship might be sailing right by them as the “America First” policy becomes more and more entrenched in popular opinion.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:48:44am

Meanwhile, looks like Turkey could be heading into some rough economic waters in the not-too-distant future:

The Turkish central bank managed to halt the free-fall of the country’s currency last week with a sharp rise in interest rates. But the move failed to stop the free-fall of Turkey’s equity market and - far more dangerous - the collapse of the credit quality of Turkey’s banks. Only last October, the euro-denominated 10-year bond of Turkey’s largest private lender, Garanti Bank, yielded just 3%. Now it yields more than 7%, and the dollar value of the bond has fallen from over 120 euros to around 80 euros.

Turkey’s Istanbul 30 stock market index meanwhile has fallen by 35% in US dollar terms since August 29, 2017. Its most vulnerable lender, Halk Bank, lost 63% of its US dollar value in the same period and now trades at 40% of book value.

Turkey’s banks are shut out of world capital markets, and the country is hard put to raise the US$50 billion in new hard currency it needs to finance a current account deficit running at around 6% of GDP. Turkish businesses have about US$300 billion in foreign currency debt, and the cost of servicing it has nearly doubled in local-currency terms due to the lira’s depreciation since 2015. The banks will have trouble rolling over their existing short-term borrowings in hard currency, and trouble collecting loan payments from customers crushed by the collapse of the lira.

TL;DR -

When Greek credit collapsed, the economy shrank by 25%. In Turkey’s case, a 10%-20% overall economic contraction is quite possible. The political consequences of an economic disaster of that magnitude are hard to fathom. Turkey’s President Erdogan arrested more than 47,000 people after the abortive July 2016 coup attempt, and inflicted a wave of violence on the Kurdish-majority southeast. There are a lot of political scores to settle in Turkey, and an economic crisis would make Erdogan most vulnerable.

atimes.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:50:07am

re: #108 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, looks like Turkey could be heading into some rough economic waters in the not-too-distant future:

When Greek credit collapsed, the economy shrank by 25%. In Turkey’s case, a 10%-20% overall economic contraction is quite possible. The political consequences of an economic disaster of that magnitude are hard to fathom. Turkey’s President Erdogan arrested more than 47,000 people after the abortive July 2016 coup attempt, and inflicted a wave of violence on the Kurdish-majority southeast. There are a lot of political scores to settle in Turkey, and an economic crisis would make Erdogan most vulnerable.

I do not see Angela Merkel stepping up to help bail them out, either…

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:52:24am

re: #109 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do not see Angela Merkel stepping up to help bail them out, either…

I’d be very surprised if she did. Erdogan is on some pretty damned thin ice with the EU, and I’m sure that if his government fell, there really wouldn’t be any major shedding of tears - provided that downfall was democratic in nature and not the result of a putsch.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:54:23am

re: #110 Dr Lizardo

I’d be very surprised if she did. Erdogan is on some pretty damned thin ice with the EU, and I’m sure that if his government fell, there really wouldn’t be any major shedding of tears - provided that downfall was democratic in nature and not the result of a putsch.

there was a big blowup in Germany when Erdogan tried to send g government ministers to give election campaign speeches for Turkish citizens living in Germany

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:56:09am

re: #110 Dr Lizardo

I’d be very surprised if she did. Erdogan is on some pretty damned thin ice with the EU, and I’m sure that if his government fell, there really wouldn’t be any major shedding of tears - provided that downfall was democratic in nature and not the result of a putsch.

Considering that coup attempt that failed (suspiciously), I wouldn’t be surprised if the military is looking for a reason to reassert their status as protector of the democracy.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:57:04am

re: #111 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

there was a big blowup in Germany when Erdogan tried to send g government ministers to give election campaign speeches for Turkish citizens living in Germany

I remember that.

I also remember that it was somewhere in Europe (maybe the Netherlands?) that a Turkish politician (I believe) was actually detained by the cops when they were discovered to be on their way to a campaign rally.

I think it might have been the Netherlands; I recall there were some angry protests by expat Turkish AKP supporters living there.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2018 • 6:58:17am

re: #112 Belafon

Considering that coup attempt that failed (suspiciously), I wouldn’t be surprised if the military is looking for a reason to reassert their status as protector of the democracy.

I think Erdogan has pretty effectively purged the Turkish military of an potential opposition - the leadership cadre are staunch Erdogan loyalists these days.

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garzooma  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:04:44am

re: #96 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Nothingburger. All Kim got was some propaganda validation, nothing of real substance…not like he got to occupy any territory over it

But beyond whatever Kim got or didn’t get, there’s a lesson that every country can’t miss: aggressively build a nuclear force, thumbing your nose at non-proliferation attempts, and the US will kiss your ass. Don’t build a nuclear force and accommodate non-proliferation like Iran, and the US will come down on you like a ton of bricks.

The world has become a considerably more dangerous place. Drake equation indeed.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:08:09am

I’m sure you all saw what happened here in Va last night. Good news is we nominated some awesome people. The bad news is the Virginia GOP gets more deplorable. Stewart was awful. Somehow Freitas managed to look like a voice of reason but when you’re running against Stewart and EW Jackson, that’s not hard. Va GOP continues its march to derptiude and you know what, I hope it kills them here in the long run but we’re not as blue as Maryland or Delaware yet.

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:10:56am

re: #116 HappyWarrior

I’m sure you all saw what happened here in Va last night. Good news is we nominated some awesome people. The bad news is the Virginia GOP gets more deplorable. Stewart was awful. Somehow Freitas managed to look like a voice of reason but when you’re running against Stewart and EW Jackson, that’s not hard. Va GOP continues its march to derptiude and you know what, I hope it kills them here in the long run but we’re not as blue as Maryland or Delaware yet.

At least your trend is in the right direction.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:13:53am

re: #117 Belafon

At least your trend is in the right direction.

True. I signed up for Wextons congressional campaign this morning and I’ll likely be meeting her next week for a work related event. Need to think of a good question to ask.

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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:18:10am

Because of course he did:

Rep. Steve King Retweets Prominent Neo-Nazi to Celebrate Xenophobia

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Dave In Austin  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:18:55am

re: #104 Sir John Barron

That and the word “appeasement” tends to get thrown around rather indiscriminately.

That’s why I’m asking…… You guys are way smarter that I am. (And I need your musk!!)

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:20:42am

re: #33 William Lewis

Goddamn. People worry about a fucking raccoon but don’t give a fuck about kids in concentration camps, ripped from their parents. I’m near ready to give up just from that.

Actually, I care about both. The racoon story is something to glance at once or twice, and maybe casually comment online. The other is something meriting organizing, contacting representatives and campaigning. Mostly offline.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:22:37am

re: #119 freetoken

Because of course he did:

Rep. Steve King Retweets Prominent Neo-Nazi to Celebrate Xenophobia

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KKKing needs to go away.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:24:01am

re: #35 Eventual Carrion

This is the thought I keep coming up with. LOTS of very cheap labor and no restrictions on how much like a slave you can treat them. An industrialists paradise (to borrow a word from Sean for NK).

South Korea is a democracy. South Koreans think North Koreans are their family (often enough they are), and are unlikely to stand that unless NK remains sealed off. Which would also not stand.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:25:56am

A brewery gets naming rights to a college arena.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:29:55am

re: #124 Dr. Matt

We are so excited to welcome the Yuengling Family to the USF Family!

so a couple of members of that family open up a brew pub.

Offering a special beer flavored with bay leaves.

But there is a problem, the laurel oils in the beer manage to numb people’s tongues so that they can barely speak by the end of the evening.

So they hire entertainers, acrobats and clowns and animal trainers to keep the people occupied.

And they call it

(are you ready?)

Yuengling Brothers Bar Numb on Bay Leaves Circus!

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:31:40am

Just saw this rather brief blurb:

As attorneys for Michael Cohen rush to meet Judge Kimba Wood’s Friday deadline to complete a privilege review of over 3.7 million documents seized in the April 9 raids of Cohen’s New York properties and law office, a source representing this matter has disclosed to ABC News that the law firm handling the case for Cohen is not expected to represent him going forward.

To date, Cohen has been represented by Stephen Ryan and Todd Harrison of the Washington and New York firm, McDermott, Will & Emery LLP.

No replacement counsel has been identified as of this time.

Cohen, now with no legal representation, is likely to cooperate with federal prosecutors in New York, sources said. This development, which is believed to be imminent, will likely hit the White House, family members, staffers and counsels hard.

abcnews.go.com

If Cohen flips, I think I can safely predict many bricks will be shat.

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mmmirele  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:31:59am

re: #19 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

From what I read, Pence not being allowed alone in a room with another woman is more a matter of avoiding any potential chance of being blackmailed, as that had been the case with several prominent fundamentalist figures.

It’s the stupid Billy Graham Rule on steroids. And, frankly, it says that women are temptress and men are so lust- filled they’ll jump any woman’s bones. It’s obnoxious.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:33:20am

re: #127 mmmirele

It’s the stupid Billy Graham Rule on steroids. And, frankly, it says that women are temptress and men are so lust- filled they’ll jump any woman’s bones. It’s obnoxious.

It is more a matter of the publicity legal consequences if such charges are made against them.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:33:52am

re: #127 mmmirele

It’s the stupid Billy Graham Rule on steroids. And, frankly, it says that women are temptress and men are so lust- filled they’ll jump any woman’s bones. It’s obnoxious.

Yep. It’s insulting to both men and women.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:34:14am

re: #126 Dr Lizardo

Just saw this rather brief blurb:

abcnews.go.com

If Cohen flips, I think I can safely predict many bricks will be shat.

Time to start firing up the Zionist Plot conspiracy theories…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:34:46am

My morning rant on Corey Stewart.

Corey Stewart? Oh yes. Virginia needs a Senator who isn’t over April 1865 that much. Dude you’re from Minnesota. Home of the 1st Minnesota who fought bravely at Gettysburg and Albert Woolson, the last confirmed Civil War vet. We as Virginians have many heroes- George Marshall comes to mind, Oliver Hill is another, & yes Winifield Scott and George Thomas who chose nation during the dark hours of 1861 over slavery and secession. That’s what Stewart could be proud but he thinks by being a carpetbagging pandering ass is the way to govern in my Virginia. My Virginia is home to families that can go back to Jamestown but also those who have more recently started calling it home. Honey ham and pupaserias together side by side.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:40:28am

re: #125 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

so a couple of members of that family open up a brew pub.

Offering a special beer flavored with bay leaves.

But there is a problem, the laurel oils in the beer manage to numb people’s tongues so that they can barely speak by the end of the evening.

So they hire entertainers, acrobats and clowns and animal trainers to keep the people occupied.

And they call it

(are you ready?)

Yuengling Brothers Bar Numb on Bay Leaves Circus!

For shame. :)

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Jay C  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:41:55am

re: #126 Dr Lizardo

Just saw this rather brief blurb:

abcnews.go.com

If Cohen flips, I think I can safely predict many bricks will be shat.

3.7 million documents?
I know lawyers tend to generate a lot of paperwork, but wow…..

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:42:16am

re: #130 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Time to start firing up the Zionist Plot conspiracy theories…

I would imagine if - and that’s a big “if” - Cohen were gonna starting singing like a canary in exchange for some kind of plea deal, he’d want to get some good lawyers that specialize in doing deal with the Feds.

Hell……I know I would.

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sagehen  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:43:48am

re: #112 Belafon

Considering that coup attempt that failed (suspiciously), I wouldn’t be surprised if the military is looking for a reason to reassert their status as protector of the democracy.

Not sure if this is good or bad for Erdogan, but… Michael Flynn was working for him. And wanted to kidnap and/or extradite the guy in Pennsylvania who Erdogan tried to scapegoat for that attempted coup.

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:43:50am

re: #109 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I do not see Angela Merkel stepping up to help bail them out, either…

I don’t see Trump helping either as he is probably looking forward to decreasing the size of the US Military presence inside Turkey anyway and eventually closing those bases. This would fulfill his campaign rhetoric about US troop withdrawal and also not coincidentally please his autocratic friend Putin to no end.

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:44:03am

re: #133 Jay C

3.7 million documents?
I know lawyers tend to generate a lot of paperwork, but wow…..

Cohen never threw anything away.

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ObserverArt  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:44:42am

Morning!

Arrrgh. I have been fighting digital wars for the past two days. Setting up WordPress function notices for various plug-ins for a client that never check their emails, even if important.

Also battling with credit card processing with a web store. The fight is between Authorize. net and the client’s merchant service (card processor) and client’s bank. What a freaking mess. The damn merchant processor (Intuit) shifted their processing to another division and they then sold the account to another processor. That screwed up everything as there was very little communication to the client who just happens to spend most of his year in residence in Australia. He is back in Columbus now…so we spent all afternoon yesterday pounding out who is doing what. Still got work to do to get it all ironed out so I can turn the store back on.

Arrrgh! Modern problems. Good thing I still have hair to tear out.

I need to catch up a bit, but the real important question is…did the raccoon find its way back down the building?

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Dr. Matt  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:44:43am

re: #125 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

so a couple of members of that family open up a brew pub.

Offering a special beer flavored with bay leaves.

But there is a problem, the laurel oils in the beer manage to numb people’s tongues so that they can barely speak by the end of the evening.

So they hire entertainers, acrobats and clowns and animal trainers to keep the people occupied.

And they call it

(are you ready?)

Yuengling Brothers Bar Numb on Bay Leaves Circus!

Now, take a bow. :)

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:45:03am

God damn all Republicans to hell. For eternity.

Read this thread. Basically, preexisting conditions are back, junk policies that cover nothing are in, and so much for healthcare in the US unless you can pay for it all.

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makeitstop  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:45:13am

ABC raises the stakes…

I’ll believe it when I see it. I still think Says Who is too dim to realize that his adoration of Trump is misplaced, and he’ll just continue sticking up for a guy who couldn’t give a fuck about him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:45:45am

re: #139 Dr. Matt

Now, take a bow.

I sat up all night working on that one

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makeitstop  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:46:24am

re: #125 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

so a couple of members of that family open up a brew pub.

Offering a special beer flavored with bay leaves.

But there is a problem, the laurel oils in the beer manage to numb people’s tongues so that they can barely speak by the end of the evening.

So they hire entertainers, acrobats and clowns and animal trainers to keep the people occupied.

And they call it

(are you ready?)

Yuengling Brothers Bar Numb on Bay Leaves Circus!

Well, that was a long walk…

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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:46:46am

re: #141 makeitstop

So is Cohen going to represent himself?

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makeitstop  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:47:28am

re: #144 freetoken

So is Cohen going to represent himself?

Didn’t he try that once already?

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:49:05am

When I lived in Virginia lots of people I knew drank Yuengling Bros. beer. While not offensive, I never saw the appeal beyond the relatively cheap price.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:50:23am

re: #144 freetoken

So is Cohen going to represent himself?

If Cohen were smart, he’d take a plea deal and tell Mueller everything he knows.

EVERYTHING.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:50:26am

re: #146 Barefoot Grin

When I lived in Virginia lots of people I knew drank Yuengling Bros. beer. While not offensive, I never saw the appeal beyond the relatively cheap price.

If you are most anywhere in PA and order a Lager, you get a Yuengling.

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:50:33am

I have been working like a fiend the last few days. I didn’t see this.

Nope, no blue wave. Not at all.

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:51:36am
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The Major  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:52:40am

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:53:14am

re: #124 Dr. Matt

A brewery gets naming rights to a college arena.

The USF Family…..

Happy to welcome you and your dollars to the “family”

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lawhawk  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:54:06am

re: #150 MsJ

That’s pretty big deal. Trump’s biggest ally in the House is Nunes. Nunes has been running interference for Trump since before day 1, and now we’ve got the DOJ demanding Congress investigate their own for potentially interfering in ongoing investigations. Nunes is ultimately responsible for his staff’s actions - and Rosenstein thinks there’s sufficient evidence there for the House to investigate their own.

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lawhawk  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:55:22am

Cohen’s going to flip.

That’s almost a certainty at this point. That Cohen’s switching lawyers may reflect not that Cohen’s going to represent himself (fool, meet client), but that Cohen wants someone with experience in cutting plea deals with prosecutors to minimize the prison time.

Cohen’s in real trouble, which means Trump’s in yuuuuge trouble.

UPDATE:
Is it that Cohen’s lawyers are dropping him, or that Cohen’s dropping them?

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Jay C  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:55:46am

re: #149 MsJ

I have been working like a fiend the last few days. I didn’t see this.

Nope, no blue wave. Not at all.

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Well, that was just one of two districts that had to have had the special elections ordered, and the Republican won the other one (in like a Trump+99 district), so no: no “blue wave”, Dems are in “disarray” as usual, “heartland” voters are backing The(ir) President, etc. etc….
(///sarc, but probably not too much)

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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:56:32am

re: #154 lawhawk

I thought that Cohen’s lawyers (who are now leaving him) work at one of the nation’s top defense law firms?

Will he really find someone better?

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:56:47am

re: #154 lawhawk

Cohen’s going to flip.

That’s almost a certainty at this point. That Cohen’s switching lawyers may reflect not that Cohen’s going to represent himself (fool, meet client), but that Cohen wants someone with experience in cutting plea deals with prosecutors to minimize the prison time.

Cohen’s in real trouble, which means Trump’s in yuuuuge trouble.

That’s kind of what I’m thinking.

BTW, didn’t Mueller get Sammy the Bull to flip on Gotti? I seem to recall that.

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:56:56am

And work calls. See ya all latahs.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:57:51am

re: #156 freetoken

I thought that Cohen’s lawyers (who are now leaving him) work at one of the nation’s top defense law firms?

Will he really find someone better?

I would imagine there are highly specialized lawyers who work on plea deals with the DOJ. Perhaps that firm didn’t have anyone that met those requirements.

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lawhawk  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:59:24am

re: #156 freetoken

I thought that Cohen’s lawyers (who are now leaving him) work at one of the nation’s top defense law firms?

Will he really find someone better?

That was my thought as well, unless one of the reasons they’re leaving is that Cohen couldn’t keep up with the bills…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 13, 2018 • 7:59:49am

re: #150 MsJ

Rosenstein is going to get himself fired soon I think.

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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:00:21am

re: #160 lawhawk

On their website they brag about all the pro-bono work they do.

Maybe Cohen was counting on that?

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Bubblehead II  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:03:48am

re: #138 ObserverArt

Made it to the roof and into a live trap. Will be transported to a safe location and released.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:03:56am

re: #161 Eclectic Cyborg

Rosenstein is going to get himself fired soon I think.

If nothing else, I can totally see Nunes running off to the White House to cry like a little bitch.

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Jay C  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:05:12am

re: #153 lawhawk

That’s pretty big deal. Trump’s biggest ally in the House is Nunes. Nunes has been running interference for Trump since before day 1, and now we’ve got the DOJ demanding Congress investigate their own for potentially interfering in ongoing investigations. Nunes is ultimately responsible for his staff’s actions - and Rosenstein thinks there’s sufficient evidence there for the House to investigate their own.

BFD indeed. IF (and it’s a big “if”!) 1) Rosenstein doesn’t get pressured (perhaps to the point of job-threatening) to back off/soft-pedal/kid-glove his inquiry; 2) Nunes and the HPSCI Republicans don’t just tell Justice to piss off (probably on Executive/Legislative Branch issues); 3) Nunes and his creatures either stonewall (or lie).

And while I’m a long-memoried old geezer veteran observer of politics, DoJ calling for an investigation of a Congressional Committee over a DoJ investigation is something new to me… any precedents??

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:06:56am

re: #154 lawhawk

Cohen’s going to flip.

That’s almost a certainty at this point. That Cohen’s switching lawyers may reflect not that Cohen’s going to represent himself (fool, meet client), but that Cohen wants someone with experience in cutting plea deals with prosecutors to minimize the prison time.

Cohen’s in real trouble, which means Trump’s in yuuuuge trouble.

UPDATE:
Is it that Cohen’s lawyers are dropping him, or that Cohen’s dropping them?

Do you know whether DT is implicated in NY state crimes? A nice backup against self-pardons.

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lawhawk  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:09:59am

re: #166 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

If Trumpworld engaged in financial crimes under federal law, it’s likely he would face state charges on the same since NY has analog versions, so it wouldn’t take much to get state level charges imposed mirroring the federal charges. Since Trump is based in NY, that would open him up to being charged in NY.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:10:18am

You know, I was just thinking - who’s probably having an involuntary bowel movement right about now?

Sean Hannity.

Heh.

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ObserverArt  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:11:04am

re: #141 makeitstop

ABC raises the stakes…

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I’ll believe it when I see it. I still think Says Who is too dim to realize that his adoration of Trump is misplaced, and he’ll just continue sticking up for a guy who couldn’t give a fuck about him.

I wonder if “Says Who” Cohen knows if he talks he is screwed by other Trump fixers.

If you know what I mean.

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makeitstop  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:11:38am

re: #153 lawhawk

That’s pretty big deal. Trump’s biggest ally in the House is Nunes. Nunes has been running interference for Trump since before day 1, and now we’ve got the DOJ demanding Congress investigate their own for potentially interfering in ongoing investigations. Nunes is ultimately responsible for his staff’s actions - and Rosenstein thinks there’s sufficient evidence there for the House to investigate their own.

I’m just stunned that Nunes’ staff think they can push Rosenstein around like that. Talk about hubris. They’re fucking staffers, and they think they can threaten a career prosecutor?

It reminds me of Says Who’s bravado during the campaign. And today we see that he’s been humbled. Mueller has ground him down.

Nunes and his minions will suffer the same fate, I’m hoping.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:12:00am
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makeitstop  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:14:06am

re: #169 ObserverArt

I wonder if “Says Who” Cohen knows if he talks he is screwed by other Trump fixers.

If you know what I mean.

If there’s a prime candidate for getting Putin-ed (if you know what I mean), it would be a flipped Cohen.

If there’s a spot where Trump would cross the rubicon, that would be it.

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ObserverArt  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:17:58am

re: #163 Bubblehead II

Made to the roof and into a live trap. Will be transported to a safe location and released.

Yay!

Last night there was a post it was working its way down. Interesting it went up.

Pretty cool that a wildlife story like this can get so much attention.

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ObserverArt  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:21:01am

re: #165 Jay C

BFD indeed. IF (and it’s a big “if”!) 1) Rosenstein doesn’t get pressured (perhaps to the point of job-threatening) to back off/soft-pedal/kid-glove his inquiry; 2) Nunes and the HPSCI Republicans don’t just tell Justice to piss off (probably on Executive/Legislative Branch issues); 3) Nunes and his creatures either stonewall (or lie).

And while I’m a long-memoried old geezer veteran observer of politics, DoJ calling for an investigation of a Congressional Committee over a DoJ investigation is something new to me… any precedents??

There are no precedents when it comes to Trump. He is the new precedent.

And hopefully one we will learn from…but then that would be a precedent too.

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Jay C  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:25:56am

re: #170 makeitstop

I’m just stunned that Nunes’ staff think they can push Rosenstein around like that. Talk about hubris. They’re fucking staffers, and they think they can threaten a career prosecutor?

Why not? The staffers probably assume that Nunes and the Committee GOPers have their backs, and since said Committee members have made it fairly clear that protecting Donald Trump and his regime are their main priority - significantly more important than mere quibbles about the law and justice - they’re probably not wrong.
Besides (as I noted above), as governmental administrative responsibility goes, Rod Rosenstein is just a hired hand, who can be fired by the Executive Branch pretty much at whim will.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:27:35am

re: #174 ObserverArt

There are no precedents when it comes to Trump. He is the new precedent.

And hopefully one we will learn from…but then that would be a precedent too.

That is the point. He ran as the anti-politician for people who are fed up with politics and politicans. He was able to get away with things that would have derailed the campaign or even the career of any professional politician.

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makeitstop  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:32:02am

WSJ says Says Who is waffling on whether to flip.

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Jay C  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:32:07am

re: #176 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Minor edit:

That is the point. He ran as the anti-politician for people who are fed up with politics and politicians who won’t cater to their prejudices and attempt to enact those prejudices into policy and the law.. He was able to get away with things that would have derailed the campaign or even the career of any professional politician.

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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:32:49am

Mohler now up speaking, bragging about his cleansing of Southern Baptist Seminary (that’s the one in KY.)

Pence will appear soon:

live.sbc.net

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:35:30am

re: #179 freetoken

Mohler now up speaking, bragging about his cleansing of Southern Baptist Seminary (that’s the one in KY.)

Pence will appear soon:

live.sbc.net

I need a clean shower. Ain’t nothing clean if Pence is involved even indirectly.

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sagehen  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:36:48am

re: #177 makeitstop

WSJ says Says Who is waffling on whether to flip.

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His wife’s family are Ukranians in Ukraine.
His birth family, his childhood friends, most of his kids’ friends, are Brighton Beach Russians. Many of whom have friends/family still in Russia.

Cohen may well decide that a long prison sentence is the best thing he can do for his loved ones. Even if (even though) he realizes Donald isn’t loyal to him and won’t help him at all.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:37:33am

re: #170 makeitstop

I’m just stunned that Nunes’ staff think they can push Rosenstein around like that. Talk about hubris. They’re fucking staffers, and they think they can threaten a career prosecutor?

Having interacted with hill staffers on many occasion, I will attest that your generic lifelong congressional staffer believes that he/she is the real power in government. The critter that they work for is simply their public face.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:38:56am

re: #182 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Also, they are probably very emboldened after seeing the stuff that Trump and his goons can get away with.

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Teukka  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:39:06am
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makeitstop  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:39:07am

re: #181 sagehen

His wife’s family are Ukranians in Ukraine.
His birth family, his childhood friends, most of his kids’ friends, are Brighton Beach Russians. Many of whom have friends/family still in Russia.

Cohen may well decide that a long prison sentence is the best thing he can do for his loved ones. Even if (even though) he realizes Donald isn’t loyal to him and won’t help him at all.

I’d honestly hate to be in his shoes today.

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Chrysicat  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:42:28am

re: #181 sagehen

His wife’s family are Ukranians in Ukraine.
His birth family, his childhood friends, most of his kids’ friends, are Brighton Beach Russians. Many of whom have friends/family still in Russia.

Cohen may well decide that a long prison sentence is the best thing he can do for his loved ones. Even if (even though) he realizes Donald isn’t loyal to him and won’t help him at all.

Yeah, sounds as though flipping would be a death sentence for everyone related to him within two generations. Much as I hate to say it, I don’t know if I would do that to everyone I knew, though thankfully I didn’t do the dirty things that brought it on in the first place.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:44:45am

re: #179 freetoken

Mohler now up speaking, bragging about his cleansing of Southern Baptist Seminary (that’s the one in KY.)

Pence will appear soon:

live.sbc.net

Do let us know when they bring the Golden Elephant into the conclave for the Pulpit Pimps to bow down and worship!

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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:44:57am

And Mohler didn’t answer that question, because he can’t.

The guy who asked the question was not allowed a follow up (none are apparently.)

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:46:28am

re: #181 sagehen

His wife’s family are Ukranians in Ukraine.
His birth family, his childhood friends, most of his kids’ friends, are Brighton Beach Russians. Many of whom have friends/family still in Russia.

Cohen may well decide that a long prison sentence is the best thing he can do for his loved ones. Even if (even though) he realizes Donald isn’t loyal to him and won’t help him at all.

At this point I wonder what the effect of DJT’s “generous” use of the pardon power is on those considering whether to cooperate or not with Mueller’s investigation.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:46:34am

re: #188 freetoken

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And Mohler didn’t answer that question, because he can’t.

The guy who asked the question was not allowed a follow up (none are apparently.)

The 20th century needs to meet these folks sometime for a drink.

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JordanRules  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:46:39am
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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:47:25am

Pence is scheduled for 11 (Central). Though it’s not on the schedule but that’s a minor point.

live.sbc.net

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:47:38am

re: #188 freetoken

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And Mohler didn’t answer that question, because he can’t.

The guy who asked the question was not allowed a follow up (none are apparently.)

Did they take the heretic outside to be burned at the stake?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:49:23am

re: #191 JordanRules

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Oh wow.

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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:50:12am

re: #190 HappyWarrior

The 20th century needs to meet these folks sometime for a drink.

Well, the problem is, in early 1860’s when the subject of the question, Joanna Moore, did her preaching, that she would not have been banned because she was a woman.

But here today, in 2018, both Mohler and a few other of the seminary presidents proudly proclaimed that a woman’s gender disqualifies her as teaching men.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:51:01am

re: #194 HappyWarrior

Oh wow.

Now we know the Kompromat on Steve Thing!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:52:07am

re: #195 freetoken

Well, the problem is, in early 1860’s when the subject of the question, Joanna Moore, did her preaching, that she would not have been banned because she was a woman.

But here today, in 2018, both Mohler and a few other of the seminary presidents proudly proclaimed that a woman’s gender disqualifies her as teaching men.

says so right there in the Bible

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garzooma  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:54:04am

Reuters reporting that NK is indeed stating that Trump agreed to remove sanctions:

Trump was cited by North Korea’s official KCNA news agency as saying he made the promise after pledging to end joint military exercises with South Korea.

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mmmirele  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:54:05am

re: #179 freetoken

Mohler now up speaking, bragging about his cleansing of Southern Baptist Seminary (that’s the one in KY.)

Pence will appear soon:

live.sbc.net

Al’s a jackass. As I keep telling him, his words mean nothing unless he tells his good buddy CJ Mahaney to submit to an independent investigation.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:54:13am

re: #195 freetoken

Well, the problem is, in early 1860’s when the subject of the question, Joanna Moore, did her preaching, that she would not have been banned because she was a woman.

But here today, in 2018, both Mohler and a few other of the seminary presidents proudly proclaimed that a woman’s gender disqualifies her as teaching men.

True but they’re using the Bible to rationalize that right? That’s what I meant by join the 21st century or even 19th.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 8:57:26am

Decisions. Do I walk next door for shrimp tacos or trend down the road in humidity for Korean or perhaps a mystery food truck.

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Jay C  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:00:13am

re: #201 HappyWarrior

Decisions. Do I walk next door for shrimp tacos or trend down the road in humidity for Korean or perhaps a mystery food truck.

Take the walk: Korean is in, at least for this week….

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mmmirele  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:00:20am

re: #188 freetoken

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And Mohler didn’t answer that question, because he can’t.

The guy who asked the question was not allowed a follow up (none are apparently.)

Wade Burleson’s heart is in the right place. (He’s a friend of a friend.) He’s been a great support of the women who were treated badly by Paige Patterson and he’s tried for over a decade to get the SBC to do something about its child sexual abuse problem. Unfortunately, he’s still a pastor of an SBC church and there are some things I can’t agree with him on. But I am amused that he’s needling Mohler.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:01:28am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:02:38am

re: #202 Jay C

Take the walk: Korean is in, at least for this week….

That’s what I was thinking. Either way I’m helping out Mom and Pop entrepreneurs.

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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:07:25am

Pence must be late, as the music is now in overtime.

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:08:20am

re: #206 freetoken

Pence must be late, as the music is now in overtime.

He probably needs someone to kneel in front of the flag first.

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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:09:06am

Mormons have better choral groups.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:10:26am

re: #201 HappyWarrior

Food truck, always the food truck.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:14:08am

re: #208 freetoken

Mormons have better choral groups.

I bought a Mormon Tabernacle Choir album, played it backwards and it sounded just like Stairway to Heaven

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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:15:18am

Pence up.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:16:14am

re: #210 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I bought a Mormon Tabernacle Choir album, played it backwards and it sounded just like Stairway to Heaven

I bought a Nickelback album, played it backwards and it sounded just like Nickelback.

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KGxvi  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:21:04am

Meanwhile, in the other stupid news:

An initiative that would divide California into three separate states qualified Tuesday to appear on the ballot in November’s general election.

Californians will vote whether to separate into three states: California, Northern California and Southern California — subject to approval by US Congress.

The logistics of a break up are tough to begin with, just from a government point of view. But then there’s the personal aspect of this proposal. A lot of people live in Orange, Riverside, and San Bernardino Counties (the new Southern California) but work in Los Angeles County (the new California), or vice versa. A lot of otherwise small businesses (especially in industries like construction) do business in counties that would now be different states. That’s a helluva lot of regulatory burden for those businesses to deal with - or more likely, a loss of business.

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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:22:20am

Pence doing a campaign speech, now bragging about Trump meeting with Kim.

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KGxvi  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:22:57am

re: #214 freetoken

Pence doing a campaign speech, now bragging about Trump meeting with Kim.

Trump/Pence 2020 campaign speech or Pence 2020 campaign speech?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:22:57am

re: #213 KGxvi

Meanwhile, in the other stupid news:

The logistics of a break up are tough to begin with, just from a government point of view. But then there’s the personal aspect of this proposal. A lot of people live in Orange, Riverside, and San Bernardino Counties (the new Southern California) but work in Los Angeles County (the new California), or vice versa. A lot of otherwise small businesses (especially in industries like construction) do business in counties that would now be different states. That’s a helluva lot of regulatory burden for those businesses to deal with - or more likely, a loss of business.

It’s just stupid.

Hardly worth further discussion except to point out that there is no end of idiocy that people will promote.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:23:33am

re: #215 KGxvi

Trump/Pence 2020 campaign speech or Pence 2020 campaign speech?

He is hedging his bets right now, but planning on dropping the Trump in time to campaign on his own…

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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:23:42am
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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:24:10am

And Pence just lied about Trump putting pressure on NK.

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lawhawk  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:25:42am

Only took her 18 months to realize that Pruitt was a criminal crony who shouldn’t be at the EPA or in government.

She’s been fine with his garden variety corruption, but this is a bridge too far.
She’s been fine with Pruitt gutting EPA enforcement of environmental law.
She’s been fine with Pruitt enabling polluters and undermining public health.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:26:56am

re: #220 lawhawk

Only took her 18 months to realize that Pruitt was a criminal crony who shouldn’t be at the EPA or in government.

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She’s been fine with his garden variety corruption, but this is a bridge too far.
She’s been fine with Pruitt gutting EPA enforcement of environmental law.
She’s been fine with Pruitt enabling polluters and undermining public health.

Let us assume that she has some inside information that he is going to go soon and wants to appear on the “right” side of things.

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lawhawk  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:27:49am
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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:29:36am
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lawhawk  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:30:43am

re: #223 freetoken

The Church of Cthulhu welcomes you.

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jeffreyw  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:31:20am

Leftovers from a huge t-bone:

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:31:34am

re: #224 lawhawk

The Church of Cthulhu welcomes you.

Iä! Iä!

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Jay C  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:32:16am

re: #220 lawhawk

Only took her 18 months to realize that Pruitt was a criminal crony who shouldn’t be at the EPA or in government.

[Embedded content]

She’s been fine with his garden variety corruption, but this is a bridge too far.
She’s been fine with Pruitt gutting EPA enforcement of environmental law.
She’s been fine with Pruitt enabling polluters and undermining public health.

Yeppers. Destroying the EPA in the pursuit of destroying even the concept of “environmental protection” as a government priority? Meh.
Leaning on a donor to get his wife some Wingnut Welfare sinecure? “Gotta Go!”
Such principles…..

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:33:27am

re: #227 Jay C

Yeppers. Destroying the EPA in the pursuit of destroying even the concept of “environmental protection” as a government priority? Meh.
Leaning on a donor to get his wife some Wingnut Welfare sinecure? “Gotta Go!”
Such principles…..

The grift system is being exposed. Can’t have that.

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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:33:59am

Pence just called for the repeal of the Johnson Amendment.

And the SBC cheered.

This is why I harp on and on about the SBC.

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Teukka  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:34:21am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:35:07am

re: #229 freetoken

Pence just called for the repeal of the Johnson Amendment.

And the SBC cheered.

This is why I harp on and on about the SBC.

Repeal the Johnson Amendment

and then end all tax exemptions for churches

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:35:19am

re: #229 freetoken

Pence just called for the repeal of the Johnson Amendment.

And the SBC cheered.

This is why I harp on and on about the SBC.

If the Pulpit Pimps want to play the game then they have to pay.

TAX THE CHURCHES!!!!!!!!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:36:09am

re: #232 Joe Bacon 🌹

If the Pulpit Pimps want to lay the game then they have to pay.

TAX THE CHURCHES!!!!!!!!!!

beat ya by 12 seconds

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makeitstop  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:37:26am

You guys, this is so sweet.

BRB, got something in my eye…

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:40:25am

re: #177 makeitstop

WSJ says Says Who is waffling on whether to flip.

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That’s fine. I’m sure there are more indictments left to reveal as time ticks on.

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Mattand  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:42:42am

Slightly off-topic: did Stephanopaloous push back on Dotard’s assertion that the NK people love Kim, and did he just roll over and let it slide, as his ilk is willing to do?

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CongoJack  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:43:49am

re: #235 Eventual Carrion

That’s fine. I’m sure there are more indictments left to reveal as time ticks on.

I would assume that Says Who is attempting to figure out if the info he has is good enough to get put into witness protection as there may be a price on his head if he starts to assist prosecutors. All these people slept with snakes - and the snakes are now looking to bite.

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Jay C  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:44:27am

re: #229 freetoken

Pence just called for the repeal of the Johnson Amendment.

And the SBC cheered.

This is why I harp on and on about the SBC.

I hadn’t realized the “Johnson” there was Lyndon…

And knowing how LBJ worked, he probably sold his Amendment to liberals as a way to minimize the influence of segregationist wingers, and to conservatives as a way to minimize the influence of the Catholic Church.

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:45:11am

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi will visit the U.S.-Mexico border early next week to see firsthand the impact of the administration’s efforts to crack down on illegal immigration.

The California Democrat will accompany about 15 other Democrats on the trip Monday to San Diego, which is being organized by the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, according to multiple House sources.

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KGxvi  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:45:49am

re: #238 Jay C

I hadn’t realized the “Johnson” there was Lyndon…

And knowing how LBJ worked, he probably sold his Amendment to liberals as a way to minimize the influence of segregationist wingers, and to conservatives as a way to minimize the influence of the Catholic Church.

Either that or he threatened to be the holy hell out of those who opposed it… while on the commode with the door open.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:46:28am

re: #240 KGxvi

Either that or he threatened to be the holy hell out of those who opposed it… while on the commode with the door open.

That’a how he tweeted…

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Mattand  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:47:27am

re: #215 KGxvi

Trump/Pence 2020 campaign speech or Pence 2020 campaign speech?

You know what the sad thing is? Pence would probably win. All the fucking idiot “independents” out there would vote for Pence primarily because he seems quiet and goes to church a lot.

Forgot how complicit he is in supporting Trump at every turn. Forgot how Pence, an alleged man of God, hooked up his wagon to a guy who is the literal walking antithesis of a Christian. Forget he uses the Bible as an excuse to discriminate against people.

“Oh, he’s not crazy like Trump, at least outwardly. How bad could he be?”

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Jay C  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:48:01am

re: #240 KGxvi

Either that or he threatened to be the holy hell out of those who opposed it… while on the commode with the door open.

Naaah, that Amendment dates from 1954: LBJ was still just a Senator then: Senate rules probably insisted that he keep the toilet door closed.
Unless he changed them…..

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:48:59am

re: #242 Mattand

You know what the sad thing is? Pence would probably win. All the fucking idiot “independents” out there would vote for Pence primarily because he seems quiet and goes to church a lot.

Forgot how complicit he is in supporting Trump at every turn. Forgot how Pence, an alleged man of God, hooked up his wagon to a guy who is the literal walking antithesis of a Christian. Forget he uses the Bible as an excuse to discriminate against people.

“Oh, he’s not crazy like Trump, at least outwardly. How bad could he be?”

Naah. He was going to lose in Indiana. He’s not good enough to win against the wind that will be blowing at the GOP in 2020.

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KGxvi  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:53:16am

re: #242 Mattand

You know what the sad thing is? Pence would probably win. All the fucking idiot “independents” out there would vote for Pence primarily because he seems quiet and goes to church a lot.

Forgot how complicit he is in supporting Trump at every turn. Forgot how Pence, an alleged man of God, hooked up his wagon to a guy who is the literal walking antithesis of a Christian. Forget he uses the Bible as an excuse to discriminate against people.

“Oh, he’s not crazy like Trump, at least outwardly. How bad could he be?”

There are definitely a lot of independents out there that are Republicans in everything but name (likewise there are a lot of independents that are Democrats in everything but name). And I wouldn’t be surprised to see a lot of them come home (I am not sure how many Never Trumpers will give Pence a scarlet letter, but I would guess a decent number will). But true independents? I’m guessing a lot will come across Pence’s creepiness and say “no thanks.”

I have a hard time imagining Pence would win - he’d be more likely to put Indiana in play than anything, I think.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:53:22am
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garzooma  Jun 13, 2018 • 9:59:27am

re: #177 makeitstop

WSJ says Says Who is waffling on whether to flip.

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Mueller has Cohen’s files. He doesn’t need Cohen all that much.

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lawhawk  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:01:54am

re: #243 Jay C

Naaah, that Amendment dates from 1954: LBJ was still just a Senator then: Senate rules probably insisted that he keep the toilet door closed.
Unless he changed them…..

Nope. He’d be smoking a pack of cigarettes in your face until you complied. The toilet business was extra.

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JordanRules  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:03:01am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:03:32am

re: #247 garzooma

Mueller has Cohen’s files. He doesn’t need Cohen all that much.

Always looks better to get a witness on the stand…but if he has family in Ukraine/Russia, he needs to consider prison time over turning state’s witness.

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JordanRules  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:04:37am
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garzooma  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:05:03am

re: #214 freetoken

Pence doing a campaign speech, now bragging about Trump meeting with Kim.

Note that the Reuter’s story about NK saying Trump agreed to remove sanctions, an actual stab in the back, came out 15 hours ago. And Team Trump is acting like it didn’t happen. Trudeau calmly explains Canada’s position on tariffs, and they immediately went ballistic.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:08:26am

re: #251 JordanRules

The Federalist’s galaxy brain meme defense of Corey Stewart

Ah the famous “you made me become a racist” defense.

Look, whatever your personal opinion of other races and their relative merits, if you believe that people should be allowed or denied certain rights and privileges because of race, THEN YOU ARE A RACIST.

That is a pretty clear and simple standard.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:08:55am

re: #210 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Damn it, I was hoping for Motörhead…

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:13:10am

re: #220 lawhawk

Only took her 18 months to realize that Pruitt was a criminal crony who shouldn’t be at the EPA or in government.

She’s been fine with his garden variety corruption, but this is a bridge too far.
She’s been fine with Pruitt gutting EPA enforcement of environmental law.
She’s been fine with Pruitt enabling polluters and undermining public health.

What changed her mind? Did he do something nice?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:14:43am

re: #251 JordanRules

Now The Federalist must defend and advocate for that dancing libertarian Maine dude running for US Sen. Don’t let me down, Federalist writers.

/

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wrenchwench  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:15:54am

re: #234 makeitstop

You guys, this is so sweet.

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BRB, got something in my eye…

Chain migration. Can’t have that.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:16:23am

re: #251 JordanRules

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When a white nationalist who called for the ethnic cleansing of Muslims is your personal hero, is it really a stretch to call you a racist?

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lawhawk  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:16:42am

The Friday Night News Dump this week is going to be … epic.

Manafort is likely to be confined to prison after his witness tampering while out on bail (that he still hasn’t complied with in full).

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A Mom Anon  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:17:25am

re: #251 JordanRules

Don’t we have names for really, really bad racists already? Like Nazis and Confederates and White Nationalists….oh my!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:18:09am

re: #260 A Mom Anon

Don’t we have names for really, really bad racists already? Like Nazis and Confederates and White Nationalists….oh my!

they weren’t racist until you called them those awful names!!!

/

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JordanRules  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:18:30am
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Scottish Dragon  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:20:43am

re: #13 Targetpractice

The bar has been lowered so far that it’s become embedded in the Earth’s mantle. Trump is supposed to now get credit for easing the region back from a war he was provoking, and for signing a worthless document that is hailed as the “beginning” of negotiations when the lead-up sold the whole “summit” as leading to a deal that would end NK as a nuclear power.

The bar is visible on seismic survey images if you look closely.

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:21:00am
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Chrysicat  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:21:11am
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A Mom Anon  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:22:39am

re: #261 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I know you’re joking, but JHC, this is exactly the same sort of stupid ass gaslighting abusers use to justify hurting others. No wonder they go there whenever possible. I wonder, a lot these days, about how many victims lie in the wake of these creepy sacks of shit.

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blueraven  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:22:48am

re: #220 lawhawk

Only took her 18 months to realize that Pruitt was a criminal crony who shouldn’t be at the EPA or in government.

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She’s been fine with his garden variety corruption, but this is a bridge too far.
She’s been fine with Pruitt gutting EPA enforcement of environmental law.
She’s been fine with Pruitt enabling polluters and undermining public health.

She doesn’t care about any corruption. She is upset because he is so stupid and didn’t hide it better. She is angry and concerned that this will reflect badly on Dear Liar in Chief. The delusional “Drain the Swamp” is on life support.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:23:37am

re: #259 lawhawk

Exclusive live coverage of Michael Cohen right now:

Bender shits bricks

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:26:56am
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DodgerFan1988  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:27:30am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:27:38am

re: #251 JordanRules

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With Corey Stewart he fucking deserves to be called a racist but whine some more. It’s not just liberals who see him as a racist toad.

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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:28:05am
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makeitstop  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:28:32am

re: #260 A Mom Anon

Don’t we have names for really, really bad racists already? Like Nazis and Confederates and White Nationalists….oh my!

And Trump!

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JordanRules  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:28:34am

re: #259 lawhawk

The Friday Night News Dump this week is going to be … epic.

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When big info like this starts to come out I feel like all the news orgs jump to attention and try to nail the next big part. ABC started, then WSJ now NBC. Hopefully WaPo, Rueters, or Guardian etc have something up their sleeves.

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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:29:05am

Greear was just voted this week to be the next head of the entire SBC.

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:29:47am

re: #270 DodgerFan1988

“Adult reality star”…does that mean we’ve seen his old, shriveled up junk? On screen?

{{{{ vomiting at the thought }}}}

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JordanRules  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:30:28am

re: #269 MsJ

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Imma wait ‘till after the midterms at least to get started on that.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:30:39am
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Chrysicat  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:32:24am

re: #278 Big Beautiful Door

I think you’re about 100 posts behind—that one’s already made the rounds in this very thread :-P

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:33:08am

re: #278 Big Beautiful Door

Can we call Stephen King a racist?

Steve King

For Dog’s sake, don’t make that mistake

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JordanRules  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:34:24am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:37:12am

re: #278 Big Beautiful Door

Can we call Stephen King a racist?

Steve yes. You could have a long time ago.

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:37:29am

Fucking propaganda is working.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:38:12am

re: #281 JordanRules

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Wingnuts hate Miranda because Miranda was a criminal but the rights of the accused matter.

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JordanRules  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:39:25am

re: #282 HappyWarrior

Steve yes. You could have a long time ago.

Yeah. Asking this question about folks like Trump, King and Stewart pisses me off. We know already.

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jaunte  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:39:46am

re: #284 HappyWarrior

The Trumps are criminals too, but they have lots of lawyers. Wingnut hate for crime seems dependent on how many lawyers the criminal can hire.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:39:52am

re: #283 MsJ

Fucking propaganda is working.

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Seriously? The guy is just doing his job. I’d be honored to work for Mueller but I’m a pizza boy on the legal hierarchy.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:39:57am
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Targetpractice  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:40:34am

re: #284 HappyWarrior

Wingnuts hate Miranda because Miranda was a criminal but the rights of the accused matter.

They hate the decision because it led to more of “those people” being acquitted because cops had to at least go through the motions of respecting a suspect’s rights even if they still engaged in the same strong-arm tactics as before to extract confessions.

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jaunte  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:41:49am

The Nantucket Sleighride begins!

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:42:46am

re: #286 jaunte

The Trumps are criminals too, but they have lots of lawyers. Wingnut hate for crime seems dependent on how many lawyers the criminal can hire.

Its also heavily dependent on the color of the defendant’s skin.

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:43:01am

re: #287 HappyWarrior

Seriously? The guy is just doing his job. I’d be honored to work for Mueller but I’m a pizza boy on the legal hierarchy.

Don’t sell yourself short. Papadapoulous was a coffee boy and look at what he did!

:-)

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makeitstop  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:43:25am

re: #290 jaunte

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The Nantucket Sleighride begins!

That’s on top of the 70 he asked for earlier this year. Casting a wide net, he is.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:44:36am

re: #280 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Steve King

For Dog’s sake, don’t make that mistake

Not the beloved author! The racist congressman from Iowa!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:45:58am

re: #292 MsJ

Don’t sell yourself short. Papadapoulous was a coffee boy and look at what he did!

:-)

Ha I have moved up.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:46:20am

re: #294 Big Beautiful Door

Not the beloved author! The racist congressman from Iowa!

You did say Stephen. :)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:46:46am

re: #291 Big Beautiful Door

Its also heavily dependent on the color of the defendant’s skin.

See Trump and the Central Park Five.

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JordanRules  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:46:48am
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ObserverArt  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:46:51am

re: #283 MsJ

Fucking propaganda is working.

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Take a deep breath. Polling right now about Mueller isn’t going to be accurate because he is quiet and keeps working.

Of course the attacks are going to work on a poll.

Let’s wait and see what happens a bit later this year as we get into the actual run for the elections when more fight will come from the Democrats, who also have been quiet.

I keep in mind the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Republicans are squeaky wheels.

One other thing, I am not responding to any polling this year. And I know many others that are not either. So how true are those polls when it might be skewed by noisy Trumpers versus frustrated Democrats?

And fuck Politico. No one loves a good political scare than Politico. Who knows how that poll was constructed?

But then again…maybe there is no way to stop your worry.

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jaunte  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:48:34am
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Chrysicat  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:49:57am
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MsJ  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:50:45am

re: #299 ObserverArt

Take a deep breath. Polling right now about Mueller isn’t going to be accurate because he is quiet and keeps working.

Of course the attacks are going to work on a poll.

Let’s wait and see what happens a bit later this year as we get into the actual run for the elections when more fight will come from the Democrats, who also have been quiet.

I keep in mind the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Republicans are squeaky wheels.

One other thing, I am not responding to any polling this year. And I know many others that are not either. So how true are those polls when it might be skewed by noisy Trumpers versus frustrated Democrats?

And fuck Politico. No one loves a good political scare than Politico. Who knows how that poll was constructed?

But then again…maybe there is no way to stop your worry.

I am not as much worried as I am angry; as in so fucking angry I can’t even put how angry I am into words.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:52:32am

Went the food truck route. Jambalaya!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:52:58am

re: #60 Sir John Barron

I can’t wait until DJT goes to Cuba.

He’s probably still mad at Cuba for not letting him sneak around the sanctions to get a hotel/casino in Havana back in the day.

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wrenchwench  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:54:56am

re: #302 MsJ

I am not as much worried as I am angry; as in so fucking angry I can’t even put how angry I am into words.

I get it. Three words are all you need.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:57:03am
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MsJ  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:57:21am

re: #305 wrenchwench

I get it. Three words are all you need.

I LITERALLY CAN’T EVEN.

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jaunte  Jun 13, 2018 • 10:59:45am

Trump is taking us all to the cleaners.

CONSUMER PRICE INDEX - MAY 2018
bls.gov

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dangerman  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:00:16am

re: #160 lawhawk

That was my thought as well, unless one of the reasons they’re leaving is that Cohen couldn’t keep up with the bills…

Yup. My guess

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:00:46am

re: #308 jaunte

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Trump is taking us all to the cleaners.

CONSUMER PRICE INDEX - MAY 2018
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He’ll just blame Obama and the other countries and you know what, people will buy it because they worship that lying fuck.

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The Major  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:05:10am

From a Google News pop-up: Rudy Giuliani’s son loses access to The West Wing.

Now why did he even have access to The West Wing in the first place…

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:08:41am

And the Fed just raised its interest rate a quarter point.

Winning! /

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KGxvi  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:09:03am

re: #311 The Major

From a Google News pop-up: Rudy Giuliani’s son loses access to The West Wing.

Now why did he even have access to The West Wing in the first place…

He has been the Public Liaison Assistant since March of last year. Whether or not he’s qualified for that gig, who knows, Trump in the very old school business way probably thought, “Rudy’s kid? Yeah, sure, put him on the payroll, always nice to help out a freind.”

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dangerman  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:09:16am

re: #198 garzooma

Reuters reporting that NK is indeed stating that Trump agreed to remove sanctions:

They are going to paint him further and further into that corner

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Stanley Sea  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:11:25am
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BeachDem  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:11:33am

I’m nauseated at all the media stories giving the yam’s late afternoon tweet credit for Sanford losing. JFC—what a bunch of horseshit. Their rationale is that the tweet went out just as people were getting off work and going to vote—uh huh. I’m just sure everyone in Charleston was undecided and avidly checking their Twitter accounts to see what the yam had to say as they headed for the polls.

As one WaPo commenter put it:

Trump just got in front of the parade at the end and the media says he is the drum major.

And the whole side story of bring up Sanford’s Argentine adventure as being a factor is bullshit as well. He retained his governorship after it all came out and won back his previous House seat (running against Stephen Colbert’s sister, I might add) quite easily in a 2013 special election, ran unopposed in 2014, and won by 22 points in 2016.

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Kragar  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:11:35am
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KGxvi  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:11:47am

re: #314 dangerman

They are going to paint him further and further into that corner

If the possibility of nuclear war weren’t so evident, this would actually be kind of entertaining to watch unfold.

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Kragar  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:12:52am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:12:53am

re: #317 Kragar

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Big domino for Mueller.

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dangerman  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:13:17am

re: #218 freetoken

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The Trump administration sent #MikePence to Dallas to sure-up the evangelical vote and the #SBC leadership is just sitting back and getting used. This is really sad to watch

Nothing sad about a wilful idiot

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:14:19am

re: #319 Kragar

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I’ve never been happier not to get a DoS job. I really coveted one out of college. I didn’t get one and I was legit disappointed by that but this makes me glad I missed out.

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JordanRules  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:15:41am
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jaunte  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:17:58am

re: #323 JordanRules

Well, there’s a horror movie.

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wrenchwench  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:18:03am

re: #318 KGxvi

If the possibility of nuclear war weren’t so evident, this would actually be kind of entertaining to watch unfold.

Nuclear war, also concentration camps for kids, higher maternal death rates, dead kids at schools, bombing hospitals in Yemen—too many possibilities are so evident. He really knows how to ruin the entertainment. Whodda known. He was a TV guy. I thought they were all about the entertainment.

/apply as necessary. Sarc tags are not even.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:18:04am

re: #323 JordanRules

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What a shock. Does Rudy get a mulligan too, Jerry and Franklin?

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KGxvi  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:19:48am

re: #325 wrenchwench

Nuclear war, also concentration camps for kids, higher maternal death rates, dead kids at schools, bombing hospitals in Yemen—too many possibilities are so evident. He really knows how to ruin the entertainment. Whodda known. He was a TV guy. I thought they were all about the entertainment.

/apply as necessary. Sarc tags are not even.

In addition to being plagued by Stupid Watergate, this administration has turned into Stupid West Wing - it’s like West Wing, only everyone makes the wrong choice all the time.

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:20:26am
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dangerman  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:20:47am

re: #241 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That’a how he tweeted…

Is that what they called it then?

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Varek Raith  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:20:51am

re: #328 MsJ

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WHAT THE FUCK

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:21:02am

re: #328 MsJ

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Agh.

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KGxvi  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:22:10am

re: #330 Varek Raith

WHAT THE FUCK

This reminds me, I heard a new saying last night that I believe should be shared, instead of what the fuck, may I present my new saying:

WHAT THE DICK

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wrenchwench  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:22:36am

re: #327 KGxvi

In addition to being plagued by Stupid Watergate, this administration has turned into Stupid West Wing - it’s like West Wing, only everyone makes the wrong choice all the time.

Usually on purpose, ignoring all advice from anyone with experience.

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KGxvi  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:23:28am

re: #333 wrenchwench

Usually on purpose, ignoring all advice from anyone with experience.

for the stated purpose of owning the libs.

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MsJ  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:29:20am

Damn. He looks awful. Good.

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JordanRules  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:29:48am
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lawhawk  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:29:51am
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Chrysicat  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:32:45am
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Stanley Sea  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:33:56am

Lying to our face

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:33:59am

re: #335 MsJ

Damn. He looks awful. Good.

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Could live to 200. I’d take 200 more days sooner.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:34:19am

re: #335 MsJ

Damn. He looks awful. Good.

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I thought it was William Shatner

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:34:30am

re: #339 Stanley Sea

Lying to our face

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Makes Tillerson look like Marshall

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:34:37am

re: #336 JordanRules

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This should be a top priority to pass when the Democrats regain control of the federal government.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:34:42am

Brits

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JordanRules  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:35:42am

So touchy Mike!

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makeitstop  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:37:24am

re: #335 MsJ

Damn. He looks awful. Good.

I say he should hop on AF1 and do round 2 of the North Korea summit. Does tomorrow work?

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Chrysicat  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:38:48am
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JordanRules  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:39:06am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:39:43am

re: #341 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I thought it was William Shatner

Thank you. I was going to post that, too. But I like Shatner. So…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:39:54am

re: #348 JordanRules

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But both parties are the same say the Bros!

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dangerman  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:40:27am

ompre: #316 BeachDem

I’m nauseated at all the media stories giving the yam’s late afternoon tweet credit for Sanford losing. JFC—what a bunch of horseshit. Their rationale is that the tweet went out just as people were getting off work and going to vote—uh huh. I’m just sure everyone in Charleston was undecided and avidly checking their Twitter accounts to see what the yam had to say as they headed for the polls.

As one WaPo commenter put it:

Trump just got in front of the parade at the end and the media says he is the drum major.

And the whole side story of bring up Sanford’s Argentine adventure as being a factor is bullshit as well. He retained his governorship after it all came out and won back his previous House seat (running against Stephen Colbert’s sister, I might add) quite easily in a 2013 special election, ran unopposed in 2014, and won by 22 points in 2016.

yup. complete bullshit

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:41:14am

re: #347 Chrysicat

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In the 50s there was also a top marginal tax rate of 90% which established what was effectively a salary cap on CEOs as well.

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Belafon  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:43:22am

re: #352 Big Beautiful Door

In the 50s there was also a top marginal tax rate of 90% which established what was effectively a salary cap on CEOs as well.

And business taxes were higher which made it more advantageous to invest in workers and technology.

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Chrysicat  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:48:58am
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Kragar  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:49:05am

re: #354 Dave In Austin

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3 words I want to hear from Trump.

“I smell toast.”

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dangerman  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:49:13am

currently:

YouTube

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Kragar  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:50:25am
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freetoken  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:51:28am

re: #358 Kragar

I know. Been looking at car rental prices, and they are way up, not just from a few months ago, but from this time last year too.

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KGxvi  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:52:28am

re: #355 Chrysicat

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with construction workers it’s as much for their SAFETY around flying slivers that could cut a leg as anything else

I grew up in construction. Family business is still construction. I can tell you that anything that is going to do real damage to your leg isn’t going to care that you’ve got an extra layer of cotton there.

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makeitstop  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:53:43am

re: #357 dangerman

currently:

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Video

That video shows how high in the rock firmament they were at that time. They rented the Expos’ (IIRC) ball park in the middle of Winter to record a performance video. Not cheap, even in the off season.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:53:55am

New Jersey’s William Paterson University

Moon landings were faked
Gestapo only engaged in torture during the “last part of the war.”
Native Americans are not indigenous people.
Irish were the first slaves in America

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KGxvi  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:54:10am

re: #356 Kragar

3 words I want to hear from Trump.

“I smell toast.”

[Archer] - Toast

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Chrysicat  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:54:20am
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dangerman  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:54:55am

re: #271 HappyWarrior

With Corey Stewart he fucking deserves to be called a racist but whine some more. It’s not just liberals who see him as a racist toad.

———————-

Sen. Corey Gardner (R-CO), the head of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, told CNN the group has no plans to endorse Corey Stewart (R), the party’s U.S. Senate nominee in Virginia.

Said Gardner: “We have a big map, right now we are focused on Florida, North Dakota, Missouri, Indiana. I don’t see Virginia in it.”

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:55:46am

re: #345 JordanRules

So touchy Mike!

“It’s very insulting that you’re asking the administration questions, that you aren’t just accepting what we tell you on faith. You’re not supposed to do that.”

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Chrysicat  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:55:55am
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wrenchwench  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:56:53am

re: #360 KGxvi

I grew up in construction. Family business is still construction. I can tell you that anything that is going to do real damage to your leg isn’t going to care that you’ve got an extra layer of cotton there.

The truly serious all wear leather pants. The only ‘truly serious’ I’ve seen were in Germany.

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makeitstop  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:56:58am

Heh.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:57:18am

re: #365 dangerman

The GOP is in a way fortunate that they can improve their Senate margins without needing VA.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:58:38am

re: #370 Sir John Barron

The GOP is in a way fortunate that they can improve their Senate margins without needing VA.

Or more accurately, that they can not put money into the state, yet still rely on The Yam to support the candidate there anyway.

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dangerman  Jun 13, 2018 • 11:58:57am

re: #358 Kragar

Inflation goes up at fastest pace in six years

they will blame obama

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 13, 2018 • 12:02:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 13, 2018 • 12:02:15pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 13, 2018 • 12:38:51pm

re: #341 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I thought it was William Shatner

Don’t insult The Captain!!!!!!

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Dave In Austin  Jun 13, 2018 • 12:43:46pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jun 13, 2018 • 12:55:06pm

re: #358 Kragar

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Can’t tell, is that a win? Should I be tired of it?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 13, 2018 • 12:59:08pm

re: #365 dangerman

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Good.


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