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S'latch  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:02:17pm

She was right about Ivanka Trump too.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:06:48pm

Now, now we need to respect their point of view. //

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Dr. Matt  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:06:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:07:14pm

I actually didn’t know this about slavery.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:08:19pm

The irony is that Jones is more or less an actor himself.

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Teukka  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:11:10pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

I actually didn’t know this about slavery.

There are two common tricks: One is waiting long enough for people to forget details. Another is to take a concept or name and translate it. I mean, Birch Meadows production facility, Badger Meadows, Sun Castle, Beechwood forest, Great Roses or Ravens Bridge work facilities, or the Braiderstown child facility sound innocuous, no?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:13:21pm

re: #6 Teukka

There are two common tricks: One is waiting long enough for people to forget details. Another is to take a concept or name and translate it. I mean, Birch Meadows production facility, Badger Meadows, Sun Castle, Beechwood forest, Great Roses or Ravens Bridge work facilities, or the Braiderstown child facility sound innocuous, no?

Oh? I was talking about how slavery victims were accused of being actors that made up their experiences. Sorry should have clarified that but you are so right abut names.

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Teukka  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:14:08pm

re: #7 HappyWarrior

Oh? I was talking about how slavery victims were accused of being actors that made up their experiences. Sorry should have clarified that but you are so right abut names.

Me too, it’s long enough in the past for people to have forgot the minutiae.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:15:40pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:18:33pm

Man on dam driving south now.

Live
news3lv.com

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Dr. Matt  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:19:33pm

re: #10 Single-handed sailor

Man on dam driving south now.

Live
news3lv.com

What are the odds he is a Sovereign Dope?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:19:48pm

re: #8 Teukka

Me too, it’s long enough in the past for people to have forgot the minutiae.

Oh I’m sorry. Didn’t understand you. But yes.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:20:34pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:22:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:24:31pm

re: #14 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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They’ll probably replace him with the CSA flag that King cries into every night after leaving work.

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:26:04pm

re: #14 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:26:12pm

re: #11 Dr. Matt

What are the odds he is a Sovereign Dope?

Tell me he’s not going to try and blow the thing up.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:26:16pm

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:26:46pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

They’ll probably replace him with the CSA flag that King cries into every night after leaving work.

You owe me a new keyboard.

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Teukka  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:28:27pm

re: #19 Eclectic Cyborg

You owe me a new keyboard.

Cherry MX blue’s?
*whistles innocently and walks away*

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:28:32pm

Well now we see another piece of why this administration is separating children from their parents when attempting to cross the US border. They are criminalizing what was previously a civil matter.

DHS: 2,000 children separated at border

From April 19 through May 31 of this year, 1,995 minors traveling with 1,940 adults who said they were the children’s guardians were separated due to the policy, Department of Homeland Security spokesman Jonathan Hoffman told reporters on a conference call.

The call was largely to defend the administration’s decision to charge every adult caught crossing the border illegally with federal crimes, as opposed to referring those with children mainly to immigration courts, as previous administrations did. The officials used the opportunity, otherwise on the condition of anonymity, to accuse the press of spreading falsehoods about the policy.
Because the government is charging the parents in the criminal justice system, children are separated from them, with no clear procedure for their reunification aside from hotlines the parents can call to try to track their children down.

By the way, this is occurring for individuals who are attempting to cross to request asylum as well.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:29:21pm

re: #19 Eclectic Cyborg

You owe me a new keyboard.

Ha!

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:30:31pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

They’ll probably replace him with the CSA flag that King cries into every night after leaving work.

King probably treats that flag the way my dog does his blanket when he’s in heat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:30:45pm

as if it ever was a real possibility.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:32:51pm

works for me…start rounding them up.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:32:56pm

re: #23 Belafon

King probably treats that flag the way my dog does his blanket when he’s in heat.

Visuals dude!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:33:07pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

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as if it ever was a real possibility.

Doesn’t Mueller have the power to compel Trump to testify anyway?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:33:42pm

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

Manafort obstructed justice you dumb fuck.

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Teukka  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:33:46pm

re: #27 Eclectic Cyborg

Doesn’t Mueller have the power to compel Trump to testify anyway?

You need a young priest and an old priest… Semi-///

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:34:11pm

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

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works for me…start rounding them up.

He was obstructing an existing investigation. If he worked HRC, you’d want him jailed for that fact along you principle lacking douchebag.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:34:52pm
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sagehen  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:35:31pm

re: #1 S’latch

She was right about Ivanka Trump too.

I loved how Stephen Colbert used that in his comment on the kids… “If we continue to allow this in our name, then we’re a feckless country.” (with just a slight pause between the two syllables of that last word)

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:36:18pm

re: #11 Dr. Matt

What are the odds he is a Sovereign Dope?

Spell “Sovereign” and you can be one!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:38:17pm

re: #31 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Nunes needs to go.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:38:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:40:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:41:52pm

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Uh obstructing an investigation is a felony, applying for refugee status is not, Pizzaboy but you knew that already you piece of shit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:42:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:43:51pm
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MsJ  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:44:52pm

re: #34 HappyWarrior

Nunes needs to go.

To prison.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:45:08pm
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Belafon  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:45:13pm
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Teukka  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:45:54pm

Update on the wildfire in Stockholm County (Nacka Muni) is that water bombers have been requested. Area is uninhabited and delineated to the south by the 222 road and appears contained.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:46:40pm

re: #42 Belafon

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Shut up you whiner.

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:47:12pm

re: #42 Belafon

The leadup:

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Jay C  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:48:00pm

re: #37 HappyWarrior

Uh obstructing an investigation is a felony, applying for refugee status is not, Pizzaboy but you knew that already you piece of shit.

OK, even leaving aside the issue that offering a Jack Posobiec tweet any more consideration than glance/retch/move on is a waste of time….

Big difference, asshole: Paul Manafort lost access to HIS family thorough the formal actions of the nation’s legal system: with every opportunity to defend himself and fight the (formal, legal) charges that led to his incarceration. If he’d simply been rousted, busted, and hauled off by government thugs with no access to counsel; yeah, you might have some vestige of a point. Otherwise, go DeNiro yourself, Jack(off)….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:48:19pm

Giuliani, who worked as a federal prosecutor for nearly a decade, claimed he had seen no evidence to warrant Manafort being sent to jail.

“I don’t understand the justification for putting him in jail,” Giuliani, 74, said. “You put a guy in jail if he’s trying to kill witnesses, not just talking to witnesses.”

snip

Echoing his boss’ factually dubious claims, Giuliani said a scathing report released by Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz on Thursday shows the Mueller team is “tainted.”

“After they get slapped around for their excessively zealous behavior, they go and do something that proves Horowitz is right,” Giuliani said of Manafort’s incarceration. “They’re out of control.”

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Giuliani has discussed Trump’s power to pardon associates in the past, but has never previously gone as far as to suggest the President could overturn Mueller’s investigation in the process.

Legal experts said the purpose of Giuliani’s comment was clear.

“It’s going to be interpreted as a message to Manafort not to panic,” said Nicholas Gravante, a New York white collar criminal defense lawyer. “This can come off as Rudy telling Manafort, ‘if push comes to shove here, you’re going to get pardoned, so keep your mouth shut.’”

Rudy is also a moron.

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:48:20pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

Think about how many families have been separated due to guns.

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:49:28pm

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

In other words, Rudy is tampering with witnesses.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:54:08pm

I’ve read a lot of stories about people trying to set up a Fascist dictatorship in America, but I don’t remember anybody predicting that the whole crew would consist of incompetent, moronic pinheads.

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Jay C  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:55:37pm

re: #50 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve read a lot of stories about people trying to set up a Fascist dictatorship in America, but I don’t remember anybody predicting that the whole crew would consist of incompetent, moronic pinheads.

Or that that would be our main salvation…..

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:58:28pm

re: #51 Jay C

Or that that would be our main salvation…..

It’s what happens when a bunch of white people assume that because a black man could do it, anyone could.

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:58:35pm

re: #50 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve read a lot of stories about people trying to set up a Fascist dictatorship in America, but I don’t remember anybody predicting that the whole crew would consist of incompetent, moronic pinheads.

Be thankful they are morons. It could be worse (even if it doesn’t seem so).

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2018 • 1:59:45pm

That’s why Rudy keeps saying “afterwards.” He’s signaling that even Manafort lying in a trial can be cleared.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:00:10pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:00:23pm

re: #54 Belafon

That’s why Rudy keeps saying “afterwards.” He’s signaling that even Manafort lying in a trial can be cleared.

Rule of law doesn’t mean jack to Trump.

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:02:51pm

re: #56 HappyWarrior

Rule of law doesn’t mean jack to Trump.

It’ll just have to mean a lot to the rest of us.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:03:40pm

re: #56 HappyWarrior

Rule of law doesn’t mean jack to Trump.

and apparently to Rudy as well

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garzooma  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:04:20pm

re: #51 Jay C

Or that that would be our main salvation…..

Yeah, but we’re not likely to be so lucky with the next psychopath who wants to destroy the Republic, and who will have a blueprint on how to go about it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:05:46pm
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Winston_Smith  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:07:42pm

re: #59 garzooma

Yeah, but we’re not likely to be so lucky with the next psychopath who wants to destroy the Republic, and who will have a blueprint on how to go about it.

Who says the one we have now is done?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:09:59pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:11:18pm

re: #53 MsJ

Be thankful they are morons. It could be worse (even if it doesn’t seem so).

Unfortunately they aren’t all morons. Sessions knows exactly what the fuck he is doing.

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:14:07pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

Someone will need to ask Trump.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:14:48pm

re: #63 Eclectic Cyborg

Unfortunately they aren’t all morons. Sessions knows exactly what the fuck he is doing.

So does McConnell.

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Jay C  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:16:27pm

re: #64 Belafon

Someone will need to ask Trump.

Like that would clear things up???

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Charles Johnson  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:16:27pm
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b.d. (I Really Care..Do U?)  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:16:38pm

re: #63 Eclectic Cyborg

Unfortunately they aren’t all morons. Sessions knows exactly what the fuck he is doing.

In that case at least I am happy knowing that he is miserable.

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Teukka  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:18:00pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:18:26pm

Is there a single Republican in Congress who isn’t evil to their core? Of course, they do represent their base — which appears to be either totally evil or grossly ignorant.

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:19:26pm

re: #66 Jay C

Like that would clear things up???

Yeah, but the “White House” has a tendency of not actually speaking for Trump.

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wrenchwench  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:20:47pm

re: #70 Hecuba’s daughter

either totally evil or grossly ignorant

Both. The ignorant can be evil also.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:23:15pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

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plansbandc  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:24:06pm

re: #70 Hecuba’s daughter

No. No there’s not. And the people who support them are just as evil. We are living in the proverbial interesting times.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:24:10pm

re: #54 Belafon

That’s why Rudy keeps saying “afterwards.” He’s signaling that even Manafort lying in a trial can be cleared.

Giuliani is obviously as corrupt as they come. If Trump pardons him now for all crimes so he can be released from jail, then can’t he be pardoned again if he lies to Mueller?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:24:37pm
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Winston_Smith  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:25:37pm

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

She’s still the head of the board of directors.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:26:43pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:28:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:29:16pm

JFC

One day after the Supreme Court upheld voter purging in Ohio, the Justice Department decided to get in on the action. The department sued the state of Kentucky on Tuesday to force it to “systematically remove the names of ineligible voters from the registration records”—and Kentucky quickly agreed to comply.

The lawsuit, filed in conjunction with the conservative group Judicial Watch, alleges that Kentucky has not made “a reasonable effort to remove registrants who have become ineligible due to a change of residence.” Judicial Watch first sued Kentucky in November 2017, and the Justice Department announced it was joining the lawsuit on Tuesday. That same day, Kentucky settled the lawsuit and said it would make “a reasonable effort to remove from the statewide voter registration list the names of registrants who have become ineligible.”

This is the Trump administration’s first lawsuit against a state to force aggressive voter voter purging and could be the beginning of a new effort to curb voting rights.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:33:34pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:35:05pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Kentucky man sentenced to 30 days for Sen. Rand Paul attack]

He looks like Rand’s surprise half-brother.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:35:23pm

re: #5 HappyWarrior

The irony is that Jones is more or less an actor himself.

less

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BeachDem  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:35:36pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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Go Alison!

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b.d. (I Really Care..Do U?)  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:36:39pm

So Manafort was caught using the same sneaky ass way of trying to hide stuff that Petraeus used?

Genius!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:38:05pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:45:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:47:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:50:50pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:50:51pm

Yup, I was right. The IG report was going to expose the international pizza pedophile ring but then it was toned down to only talk about emails!
Click on her Qanon.pub link

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:51:58pm

re: #90 gocart mozart

Yup, I was right. The IG report was going to expose the international pizza pedophile ring but then it was toned down to only talk about emails!
Click on her Qanon.pub link

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no, and you can’t make me do it…

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dangerman  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:53:54pm

re: #37 HappyWarrior

Uh obstructing an investigation is a felony, applying for refugee status is not, Pizzaboy but you knew that already you piece of shit.

and yet they are treating it as if it is

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:55:27pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

I actually didn’t know this about slavery.

We’re all learning horrific facts about our history. Thanks Trump!

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dangerman  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:57:45pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

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ok they’re not even going with Reno v. Flores

and they failed to explain why ‘nothing can be done without a new law’ - ie why this isnt squarely trump policy only

they say its the law but not what law

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dangerman  Jun 15, 2018 • 2:58:46pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

On the Hill today: Listening to POTUS discuss using children as leverage to get a wall built sounds ominously like we’re holding hostages.

good thing we dont negotiate with terrorists /s

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:00:13pm

My weekend starts.

I going into the city to see a friend’s band (Deaf Poets).

trump is a cunt.

That is all.

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dangerman  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:00:56pm

re: #50 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve read a lot of stories about people trying to set up a Fascist dictatorship in America, but I don’t remember anybody predicting that the whole crew would consist of incompetent, moronic pinheads.

…and a congress that would let them do it

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darthstar  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:05:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:07:27pm

the moron is completely delusional

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:08:22pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

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as if it ever was a real possibility.

Good. So now Mueller can subpoena his orange behind.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:12:53pm
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MsJ  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:16:17pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

the moron is completely delusional

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Lots of trumptards in that thread.

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:21:17pm

This one got by me today.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:22:15pm
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Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:22:29pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

The prior acts are going to involve the shit he was up to in Ukraine. Money-laundering, stealing, hiring thugs to beat people, all the usual shit.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:24:01pm

re: #103 MsJ

Wow at the law school claim. These people are unbelievably sleazy. Where does Trump dig them up?

Hope you’re felling better today.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:26:46pm

re: #105 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

The prior acts are going to involve the shit he was up to in Ukraine. Money-laundering, stealing, hiring thugs to beat people, all the usual shit.

If he’s released for even an hour before trial, he’ll be in Kiev by morning, thumbing his nose at the DoJ. I can’t believe they let him run loose as long as they did.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:28:17pm

Ryan’s talking about his colleague’s bad dad jokes while families are being separated. God I hate him.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:28:30pm

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garzooma  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:29:24pm

re: #105 Khal Wimpo (the extinguisher of tiki torches)

The prior acts are going to involve the shit he was up to in Ukraine. Money-laundering, stealing, hiring thugs to beat people, all the usual shit.

John Marshall at TPM points out that in Ukraine, he ran a campaign to get a Putin puppet elected. You better believe it’s relevant to what Mueller is looking at.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:30:07pm

re: #110 garzooma

John Marshall at TPM points out that in Ukraine, he ran a campaign to get a Putin puppet elected. You better believe it’s relevant to what Mueller is looking at.

I wonder if he’s looking at Tad Devine too.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:30:47pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

Such a great relationship that our allies are putting tariffs on our exports in July. Whoopee!!

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Winston_Smith  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:32:49pm

re: #103 MsJ

This one got by me today.

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You’d need a staff of 100 to keep up with these gangsters. Oh, how’d the doc visit go?

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dangerman  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:34:19pm

—-

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Winston_Smith  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:34:35pm

And then we took them away from their parents and locked them up in an old Walmart!

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freetoken  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:34:51pm

The wet-blanket of Trumpian authoritarianism slowly settles over America, suffocating the voices of dissent:

Rob Rogers Fired For Drawing Too Many Anti-Trump Cartoons

A longtime newspaper cartoonist who says his work has been banished from the editorial page lately because of “political differences” with his editors says he’s been fired. Rob Rogers tweeted Thursday he’s been fired after 25 years as the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette’s editorial cartoonist.

The paper has declined to run many of his cartoons in recent months.

[…]

The Association of American Editorial Cartoonists recently issued a statement linking Rogers’ situation to “the recent arrival of a Trump-supporting editorial page editor.”

[…]

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jaunte  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:35:01pm
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MsJ  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:35:12pm

re: #114 dangerman

i posted tjhis at the end of downstairs:

Sorry I missed it. I was at the doctor/pharmacy dealing with my uber rash. 🙂

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dangerman  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:35:24pm

re: #103 MsJ

This one got by me today.

Another wild Pruitt story: he got EPA aides to help his daughter get a White House internship, got a Virginia pol to try to get his daughter into law school, scored cheap football tickets, got staff to set up off-the-books meeting with billionaire donor:

i posted this at the end of downstairs

“Senior staff members at the Environmental Protection Agency frequently felt pressured by Scott Pruitt, the administrator, to help in personal matters and obtain special favors for his family, according to interviews with four current and former E.P.A. officials who served as top political aides to Mr. Pruitt,” the New York Times reports.

“The officials said that Mr. Pruitt, who ‘had a clear sense of entitlement,’ in the words of one of them, indicated that he expected staff members’ assistance with matters outside the purview of government.”

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:36:01pm
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MsJ  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:36:01pm

re: #115 Skip Intro

The new bill gates/Steve jobs pic, only with pure evil.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:36:25pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:36:56pm

re: #120 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Also, IIRC, Manafort’s daughters already hate his guts

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:38:03pm

Trump told Shinzo Abe he’d ship 25 million Mexicans to Japan - NY Post

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:38:08pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:38:20pm

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Jeezus.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:38:44pm

re: #124 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Trump told Shinzo Abe he’d ship 25 million Mexicans to Japan - NY Post

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WTF.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:39:15pm
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MsJ  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:40:02pm

re: #119 dangerman

i posted this at the end of downstairs

I knew about the personal matters (dry cleaning and dog poop) and trying to get his wife a job but I didn’t know about the daughter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:40:20pm

moron is really upset about G7 optics

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:42:42pm

LOL

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The Major  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:44:25pm

re: #120 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:45:05pm
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The Major  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:46:31pm

re: #124 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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dangerman  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:47:06pm

re: #117 jaunte

The tent camp in Tornillo — where we are jailing kids after they’ve been taken from their parents — is right next to the international bridge to Mexico named after Marcelino Serna, an undocumented immigrant who became the most decorated soldier from TX in WWI.

his documentation is right there on his chest

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dangerman  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:47:32pm

re: #118 MsJ

Sorry I missed it. I was at the doctor/pharmacy dealing with my uber rash. 🙂

just tootin my own horn, not diggin at you

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freetoken  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:47:34pm

re: #124 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Trump is obviously unaware that Japanese like going to Mexico and Japan intentionally has cultured their relationship with Mexico (as they have with Brazil.)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:48:23pm

Thread

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dangerman  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:51:18pm

re: #120 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I guess Democrats are ok with Paul Manafort’s children being separated from their family

aside from the fact that manafort’s kids are adults

they werent separated from all their parents

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:51:51pm

O_o

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The Major  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:52:00pm

re: #138 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

s /Honey Badger/Donald Trump/

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:52:42pm
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dangerman  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:53:03pm

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump on suspending the war games: “That was my offer.” Trump made that offer AFTER Kim asked for it during the summit. This was not a term negotiated by his staff before the meeting. It was a gametime decision by the President.

hey mr. art of the deal negotiator what did you get in exchange for offering it?

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:54:22pm

re: #143 dangerman

hey mr. art of the deal negotiator what did you get in exchange for offering it?

A photo op of him saluting a dictator’s general.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:55:11pm
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dangerman  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:56:29pm

re: #128 Patricia Kayden

“An era in which Americans are exhausted with political correctness is thus defined by the sensitivities & persecution complexes of white voters who object if things they do & say are described as racist, even as the bodies pile up in the background.”

The American press is caught between describing Trumpism accurately and avoiding the wrath of the president and his supporters.

the press is not “caught”

they are choosing fecklessness

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:56:35pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

African Americans are extremely assimilated into American culture. To be honest, as a former Canadian, whenever I thought about the U.S., I thought of the contributions that Black Americans have made to American culture as a whole. I’ve never bought into the racist myth that the U.S. was a White country. It’s not now and has never been so.

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wrenchwench  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:57:22pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That asshole has refused to assimilate with the Navajos and the Hopis. He should be denaturalized and sent back, to somewhere.

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The Major  Jun 15, 2018 • 3:59:56pm

Good lord, pray this dude loses….
Bloomberg: Twitter to Face Claims by ‘White Advocate’ Over Banned Accounts

Twitter Inc. lost its bid to dismiss a lawsuit by a “white advocate” who was banned from the site in a challenge to the company’s ability to exclude users it deems objectionable.

California Superior Court Judge Harold Kahn in San Francisco rejected Jared Taylor’s claims that Twitter violated his free speech rights and discriminated against him when it permanently suspended his accounts in December.

But he said Taylor properly supported his allegations that Twitter’s policy of suspending accounts, in the judge’s words, “at any time, for any reason or for no reason” may be unconscionable and that the company calling itself a platform devoted to free speech may be misleading and therefore fraudulent.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:01:52pm

re: #99 Backwoods_Sleuth

the moron is completely delusional

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Why does he choose photos where he is the only one sitting down, like a monarch greeting his subjects?

Never mind, I figured it out.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:02:04pm

re: #138 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Miller.

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dangerman  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:03:44pm

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

For my story I asked Southwest Key for its FY 2016 tax return, which should be public, and it declined. I also asked these questions, and it did not respond

oh no, we dont want to answer any of your questions
we want to come on the show to share our story

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:03:45pm
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freetoken  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:06:17pm

This weeks neat toy:

You Can Now Search for Addresses Across 750 Million Years of Earth’s History

Find it here: dinosaurpictures.org

I put in “San Diego”, and while it does pinpoint a location from say a landmass 240 million years ago, it is misleading.

The land on which I now sit was back then a sea floor, part of the continental shelf of the early North America, off of what is today Mexico. The dot on the map produced by the tool shows an above water location.

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Jay C  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:06:22pm

re: #153 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Updinged for “Canukes”. 😆 LOL

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dangerman  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:06:39pm

re: #153 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

How quickly could Canada build an atomic bomb?

how do we know they havent?

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dangerman  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:10:34pm

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Rudy is also a moron.

so is rudy saying everyone is being framed and so the power of the pardon can right all those wrongs at the same time?

or is he implying something else maybe?
you know, guilt but who cares, we have the keys to all the cells

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jaunte  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:10:50pm
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jaunte  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:11:06pm
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dangerman  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:11:32pm

re: #155 Jay C

Updinged for “Canukes”. 😆 LOL

i thought those were canadian cucumbers

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prairiefire  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:11:41pm

re: #116 freetoken

That is effing terrible. Add in the RNC demented brunette.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:12:22pm

re: #120 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Jack Posobiec🇺🇸

@JackPosobiec
6h
I guess Democrats are ok with Paul Manafort’s children being separated from their family

Manafort’s children are adults. So Jack thinks he’s clever? Maybe he is auditioning for writer for Dennis Miller. Right wing humor is no humor.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:12:32pm

re: #98 darthstar

You forgot the cockroaches.

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dangerman  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:13:03pm

re: #159 jaunte

4) Take the kids being ripped from the arms of immigrant parents. If Trumpers were to witness this firsthand, they might actually feel, or at least fake, empathy. But from a distance, like the experiment participants, they can be who they really are w/out personal repercussions.

any ice agent with a conscience should quit

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:15:12pm

re: #149 The Major

What nonsense. Twitter is a private company. They can ban any Twitter user they want - especially if that user is promoting violence or racism.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:15:29pm

re: #156 dangerman

how do we know they havent?

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prairiefire  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:16:45pm

re: #154 freetoken

I think KC mid states was ocean. That’s why we only have snail and crustacean fossils.

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:17:31pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

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jaunte  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:17:44pm

re: #164 dangerman

“Kids started appearing at the shelter who didn’t ‘know the drill.’ They had just been separated from their parents, so they were experiencing an increased amount of trauma,” says Antar Davidson, who worked for Southwest Key, a nonprofit that operates more than two dozen shelters for migrant children from Texas to California.

Davidson quit this week because the shelter where he worked in Tucson, Ariz., didn’t have the trained staffing to handle the influx of younger, more traumatized children, he says.

The breaking point for Davidson came, he says, when he was asked to tell two siblings, ages 6 and 10, that they couldn’t hug each other. “They called me over the radio. And they wanted to translate to these kids that the rule of the shelter is that they are not allowed to hug,” he says. “And these are kids that had just been separated from their mom — basically just huddling and hugging each other in a desperate attempt to remain together.” Southwest Key says it has a clear policy that allows touching and hugging in certain circumstances.

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prairiefire  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:19:31pm

Also, fissure 8’s ocean entry is over one mile Wide Now, not out into the sea by a mile. I was mistaken. The house with a lovely view of the bay is about in the center of that stretch.

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The Major  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:22:43pm

re: #169 jaunte

Trump and the GOP don’t realize it, but their actions are creating the next generation of terrorists - and this time, they’ll be Christian/Catholic….

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jaunte  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:25:16pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:27:13pm

From the DNC to all ICE agents:

“When the current Reign of Terror is over, you will be tried for these crimes. The fact that Cheeto Benito is imprisoned for ordering them does not absolve you from imprisonment for carrying them out.”

Well, I can dream, can’t I?

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The Major  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:27:16pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:29:18pm

One of us is crazy

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:29:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:31:27pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

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White conservatives haven’t.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:32:12pm

re: #147 Patricia Kayden

African Americans are extremely assimilated into American culture. To be honest, as a former Canadian, whenever I thought about the U.S., I thought of the contributions that Black Americans have made to American culture as a whole. I’ve never bought into the racist myth that the U.S. was a White country. It’s not now and has never been so.

Our popular music for starters.

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gocart mozart  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:32:14pm

Q sits at the right hand of the Trump

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:32:22pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:33:07pm

re: #158 jaunte

• Proud Navy Veteran
@naretevduorp
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1) The Milgram Experiment studied the reactions of men to authority figures directing them to do things against their stated beliefs. This included administering severe punishment to “learners.” The results were “shocking.” Read about it here. 👇en.m.wikipedia.org
2:18 PM - Jun 15, 2018
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I first heard of Milgram in one of my few non-mathematics classes in college. It was shocking how people were willing to torture others because they were told to do so as part of a study. Now it is no longer a study, but a real world situation — and it’s clear that a good portion of our country have essentially become Nazis.

Based on the response of so many “devout” evangelicals to Trump, it appears even years of religious indoctrination on what is moral has no particular effect on cruel and evil actions when directed against anyone who is not part of the in-group. None of these so-called “Christians” have publicly renounced their allegiance to Trump.

The only voter I’ve seen who reversed her position was a businesswoman (on FB) who liked the idea of a businessman President until she discovered how inept he was at economics and deals with foreign countries. So it was competence and not morality that changed her mind.

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fern01  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:34:26pm

Had a brief look at today’s trump tweets (silly me). I am both amazed and disgusted that he talks in this fashion about issues under judicial control and/or his political opponents.

NEVER in the history of the US has a president ever said anything like this in an effort to overthrow the rule of law. For this alone he should be impeached.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:34:35pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:35:02pm

re: #169 jaunte

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Those kids are going to remember this and tbh I won’t blame them if they hate the US.

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jaunte  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:37:53pm

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

If Joel Pollak gets held there incommunicado I’m sure he’ll be just as impressed.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:37:54pm

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

Joel B. Pollak

@joelpollak
Just left a facility where kids are being sheltered. The kids seem happy and well looked after. Facilities — 20 years old! — are spare but look comfortable. Very impressed by the care and professionalism of the staff. Media coverage of this situation has been an absolute scandal.
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Were these children ripped from their parents’ arms or were they the unaccompanied minors who previously were confined to these facilities under prior administrations?

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:37:57pm

re: #184 HappyWarrior

Those kids are going to remember this and tbh I won’t blame them if they hate the US.

This is how Terrorists are made.

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gocart mozart  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:38:32pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:40:36pm

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Joel Pollak circa 1945: Auschwitz is a happy place!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:41:10pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:41:27pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:41:52pm

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I see Joel had a pleasant, informative visit to lovely Theresienstadt.

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jaunte  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:42:02pm

The message from Trump, Sessions, Pollak and the entire Republican Party to asylum seekers is this:
“We will trap and psychologically torture you and your children, even your infant children, because you should have known better than to come and ask us for help.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:42:37pm

re: #191 gocart mozart

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and it was Roman orders after all….

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Winston_Smith  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:43:21pm

Every day is more depressing than the previous day now.

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gocart mozart  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:43:37pm
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fern01  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:43:48pm

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

Echoing his boss’ factually dubious claims

What do any of them have to say before the media calls them LIES?

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Dave In Austin  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:44:42pm

Pooh in a blue cupboard.
Feeling insulted yet?

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fern01  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:45:27pm

re: #50 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’ve read a lot of stories about people trying to set up a Fascist dictatorship in America, but I don’t remember anybody predicting that the whole crew would consist of incompetent, moronic pinheads.

If you look at most dictatorships - this is a requirement for the role. Intelligent people usually don’t have a need to force others to their will.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:48:27pm

re: #193 jaunte

The message from Trump, Sessions, Pollak and the entire Republican Party to asylum seekers is this:
“We will trap and psychologically torture you and your children, even your infant children, because you should have known better than to come and ask us for help.”

Give me your huddled masses Fuck you, Mexican.

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gocart mozart  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:49:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:49:29pm

re: #196 gocart mozart

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And a lot of self described Capitalists who focus only on capitalism and ignore that they’ve always lived in mixed economies are smug assholes.

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jaunte  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:49:30pm

re: #200 HappyWarrior

This is indeed the excuse of an abuser. “Look what you made me do.’

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gocart mozart  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:50:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:50:55pm

re: #195 Skip Intro

Every day is more depressing than the previous day now.

Truly. You thought that one day was the worst they could do and then you wake up and you’re reading about him wishing he commanded the same attention an autocrat does. It’s not going to get any better for them. We need the blue wave this fall and in 2020.

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jaunte  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:51:02pm
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fern01  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:51:56pm

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

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2/ CNBC: “Investors in the company included Rupert Murdoch, Tim Draper, Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, and the Walton family, which founded Walmart, according to court files.”

Having trouble feeling sorry for this group of investors - they were no doubt going to triple the cost of blood tests and make themselves some billions - you can fool all the rich people - some of the time.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:52:39pm

re: #204 gocart mozart

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FIrst off Charlie, you stupid little fucknugget, these people aren’t illegal. They’re applying for asylum here. Secondly, does the existence of white mass murderers like Dylann Roof mean you and I should be treated like murderers too? Fuck you, you stupid little shit. BTW what happened to your dream of firebombing Pyongyang now that Trump loves Kim now. I guess Kim is a great leader now since your Dear Leader loves him too. Sorry but man this shit makes me fucking angry.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:53:15pm

re: #206 jaunte

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It’s the definition of it. It’s going to the authorities and saying “Hey my country’s situation puts me in a bad spot, can you please grant my family and I residency?”

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ObserverArt  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:55:57pm

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ha. Columbus…represents.

I mentioned my friend from Puerto Rico this morning in a post about the Autistic young man addressing his graduating class.

About 2 hours ago…there was a knock on my door…and there she was!

I have not gotten to see her or even email or anything since the isle of Vasquez was torn up last September in the hurricanes.

She is doing well, but it really has been tough. She is strong, I don’t know many people that can deal with things like she can. With her now 7-dog strong pack in tow.

I asked her how bad is it? Her answer was about 75%…and then she added…still fucked up.

Her power for the island comes from 4 generators, two from FEMA and two from some other entity that donated them. They often go down. The people are sharing texts to keep each other up on when the power is on and when the one cell tower is receiving well enough they can jump online.

She was without power from September until around late February early March.

She is that strong and resourceful, but damn. What a mess.

Gotta get ready for the Friday jams…I’ll share more bits of what she had to say.

Just glad to see her in person.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:56:12pm

Stupid Ben Ferguson on CNN thinks that Biden saying “Noun, adjective, 9/11” for Rudy is the same as Rudy calling Biden mentally deficient.

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The Major  Jun 15, 2018 • 4:56:37pm

re: #173 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

From the DNC to all ICE agents:

“When the current Reign of Terror is over, you will be tried for these crimes. The fact that Cheeto Benito is imprisoned for ordering them does not absolve you from imprisonment for carrying them out.”

Well, I can dream, can’t I?

I’m still waiting for a nation state to declare this forced separation a Crime Against Humanity and bring it before the UN. Since the US never signed onto the ICC, that’s a non-starter.

This reminds me so much about the infamous meeting between Vir Cotto and Mr. Morden….

Babylon 5 Vir answers Mr Morden

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stpaulbear  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:00:00pm

re: #180 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I hope everyone is safe. That building is (was) architecturally very special.

The Glasgow School of Art

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:00:24pm

TBH. My worry is more with defeating Trumpism than Trump at this point. I do think we can retake Congress this fall and I do think Trump can be defeated in 2020. My concern? Creating a 2021-25 America where someone like Trump can’t rise again. The most frustrating thing for me to realize is that our progress made under Obama is what really awoke these reactionary forces within our society. And you know what, they’re not going to die out with older generations. My generation has them too.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:02:07pm

re: #207 fern01

Having trouble feeling sorry for this group of investors - they were no doubt going to triple the cost of blood tests and make themselves some billions - you can fool all the rich people - some of the time.

Even better, the tests didn’t work.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:08:23pm

Good guy with a gun.

Man Shoots 2 Boys, Their Mom And Bystander Out Of Road Rage, Cops Say

According to a copy of the affidavit obtained by 9News, Webster and Bigelow were involved in an altercation at a nearby intersection and he followed the family’s vehicle into the parking lot.

He shot her and the two children point-blank with a handgun multiple times, walked toward his car, then returned to the 13-year-old and fired again, the affidavit says.

Webster allegedly fired several shots at the bystander, John Gale, 40, from a distance after making eye contact with him as he and his 9-year-old daughter sat in their truck in the parking lot. He is expected to survive. She was unharmed.

huffingtonpost.com

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BigPapa  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:11:00pm

re: #216 Skip Intro

‘He was a good boy, I don’t know what happened. Mental issues.’

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:12:38pm

re: #217 BigPapa

‘He was a good boy, I don’t know what happened. Mental issues.’

Actually, mental issues is what he’s claiming.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:13:30pm

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

Actually, mental issues is what he’s claiming.

Which is why he was able to get a gun.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:15:57pm

re: #214 HappyWarrior

TBH. My worry is more with defeating Trumpism than Trump at this point. I do think we can retake Congress this fall and I do think Trump can be defeated in 2020. My concern? Creating a 2021-25 America where someone like Trump can’t rise again. The most frustrating thing for me to realize is that our progress made under Obama is what really awoke these reactionary forces within our society. And you know what, they’re not going to die out with older generations. My generation has them too.

They’re a minority. A substantial minority, unfortunately—more substantial than I really thought—but a minority. The problem is, they always vote. Getting our people to vote was always like pulling teeth, but now there are all sorts of extra obstacles in their way.

If the tRump tError can motivate younger people to go jump through all the hoops and vote, maybe…no, it’ll never be worth it, but maybe that can compensate a little.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:17:16pm

re: #189 HappyWarrior

Joel Pollak circa 1945: Auschwitz is a happy place!

He would be writing about how nice the swimming pool was.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:17:27pm

Facebook, I’ve only been on it a little while but I can’t say I’m enjoying the experience all that much. Even talking with people who were my friends isn’t that satisfying. Maybe it’s just me, but I had higher expectations.

I don’t know any of you at all, but I feel more connected here than there for some reason.

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:20:11pm

re: #220 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They’re a minority. A substantial minority, unfortunately—more substantial than I really thought—but a minority. The problem is, they always vote. Getting our people to vote was always like pulling teeth, but now there are all sorts of extra obstacles in their way.

If the tRump tError can motivate younger people to go jump all the hoops and vote, maybe…no, it’ll never be worth it, but maybe that can compensate a little.

There are more obstacles, but more incentives, as we’re seeing with the special elections. But I do share a fear of people going back to the old ways.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:22:12pm

Not so odd…he just has extremely thin skin and will be carrying this grudge for the rest of his life.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:23:53pm

re: #222 Skip Intro

Facebook, I’ve only been on it a little while but I can’t say I’m enjoying the experience all that much. Even talking with people who were my friends isn’t that satisfying. Maybe it’s just me, but I had higher expectations.

I don’t know any of you at all, but I feel more connected here than there for some reason.

This is the best place to discuss current events anywhere. Cheers dude.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:24:05pm

Nice….. I’ll take 2.

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gocart mozart  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:25:32pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:25:38pm

re: #220 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They’re a minority. A substantial minority, unfortunately—more substantial than I really thought—but a minority. The problem is, they always vote. Getting our people to vote was always like pulling teeth, but now there are all sorts of extra obstacles in their way.

If the tRump tError can motivate younger people to go jump through all the hoops and vote, maybe…no, it’ll never be worth it, but maybe that can compensate a little.

I really hope so. Progress brings out the best and worst of us unfortunately.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:36:34pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:39:10pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:41:58pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:43:11pm

re: #231 The Vicious Babushka

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Yet no concern about the NY Field Office. I see.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:46:57pm

re: #222 Skip Intro

Facebook, I’ve only been on it a little while but I can’t say I’m enjoying the experience all that much. Even talking with people who were my friends isn’t that satisfying. Maybe it’s just me, but I had higher expectations.

I gotta be honest, I’ve never liked Facebook much. Part of it is the ugly interface, but also knowing how they relentlessly exploit user data has always been a big turn-off to me. I have to support it here at LGF because it’s the big dog on the web. But I wouldn’t if it wasn’t necessary.

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scottslemmons  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:48:49pm

Off-topic, but here’s a really great fantasy story about how great books and libraries are.

It’s short, too! No excuse not to read it and love it… :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:49:39pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:51:39pm

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He literally says this as he supports an administration locking people up for wanting refuge and wants Clinton jailed.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:52:19pm

Maggie’s risking losing her access tonight.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:53:21pm

re: #233 Charles Johnson

I had a high school reunion coming up so I joined to see what my old classmates were up to. First i didn’t remember most of them, and second we really don’t have anything to say to each other any more.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:54:17pm

re: #237 Charles Johnson

Maggie’s risking losing her access tonight.

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He’s a coward. He knows it’s a disgusting policy but wants to be seen as tough to his cult. And Maggie that’s why DeNiro said Fuck Trump.

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b.d. (I Really Care..Do U?)  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:54:43pm

The GOP sure are grasping at a lot of straws in the last couple of days.

Screw them, throw them an anchor.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:57:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:58:32pm

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’d like all those just follow the law people to answer if they should lose their kids for speeding tickets.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 15, 2018 • 5:59:13pm

re: #237 Charles Johnson

Maggie’s risking losing her access tonight.

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WTF is this “access” worth, anyway? They know goddamn well neither tRump nor any of his lackeys is ever going to tell them anything that’s even close to true—and they don’t need the media’s help to spread their lies—except the official state organ, FAUX Noise. The rest of the MSM could be adding value by analyzing the bullshit and pointing out the facts. They’d gain viewers, I guarantee it.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:01:39pm

re: #244 dangerman

If Trump had read the TPP document before withdrawing, he’d have noticed that Canada agreed to lift dairy tariffs & import quotas

Yeah but Obama pushed TPP. BTW this is another example of why Bernie was wrong.

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sagehen  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:02:13pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:03:03pm

I had to rant. Had to.

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dangerman  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:03:54pm

re: #243 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

WTF is this “access” worth, anyway? They know goddamn well neither tRump nor any of his lackeys is ever going to tell them anything that’s even close to true—and they don’t need the media’s help to spread their lies—except the official state organ, FAUX Noise. The rest of the MSM could be adding value by analyzing the bullshit and pointing out the facts. They’d gain viewers, I guarantee it.

There’s a business model right there
You’re probably right

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:07:14pm

re: #235 Backwoods_Sleuth

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:07:57pm

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Not so odd…he just has extremely thin skin and will be carrying this grudge for the rest of his life.

I hope it gives him not so fond memories while he’s in prison.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:09:43pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:10:37pm

re: #250 MsJ

I hope it gives him not so fond memories while he’s in prison.

His cell should be a bulletproof glass booth out in the open somewhere so everybody can point and laugh at him 24/7—with the sound piped in, but none allowed out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:14:47pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:15:38pm
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Winston_Smith  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:16:45pm

re: #251 Charles Johnson

So it’s not just me then. I find it to be the most confusing site I’ve ever used.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:17:43pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:25:09pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:25:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:29:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:32:50pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:36:12pm

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Bastards.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:37:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:39:07pm

re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Pence makes Dick Cheney look like Santa.

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gocart mozart  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:39:21pm
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SteelPH  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:39:55pm

This shit makes my blood boil. This Administration are fucking monsters.

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dangerman  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:42:26pm

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She said it was a shelter & kids didn’t want to leave cause they were safe

Can they leave if they want to?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:42:54pm

re: #264 gocart mozart

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alternate facts strike again

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SteelPH  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:43:19pm

re: #265 SteelPH

This shit makes my blood boil. This Administration are fucking monsters.

As is anyone else supporting, condoning, or just plain apathetic about it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:43:43pm

re: #266 dangerman

Can they leave if they want to?

can’t you read?
They don’t want to!
and shut up….

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:44:11pm

re: #265 SteelPH

This shit is making my blood boil. This Administration are fucking monsters.

The hard part really is keeping it together despite provocations and temptations. Start middle and to finish ftw.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:44:54pm
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dangerman  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:46:41pm

re: #262 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Watch as @VP Mike Pence gets interrupted by a woman who screams, “you’re locking up children!” and other protesters against the Trump administration’s policy of separating migrant children from their parents at the border.

They’ll alter the hideous policy and trump will proclaim how they ended this terrible thing started by the last guy

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:52:14pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:54:14pm

The false premise stark as hell. The law such as it is unmodified by sane voices may allow the separation policy but nothing in the language requires it. The law is so broad we could require families be kept intact and send them home (if) the minute they fail the asylum process with a well written executive order. It’s tantrum screech. If he does not get what he wants them all the deals get kicked over like the toys on a kindergarten table.

There is no settled law at that point. Not Roe V Wade. Not immigration law, not even separation of powers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:56:40pm

*spit*

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 6:59:37pm

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

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*spit*

Beto is one of our best. Man I hope he ends Cruz.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:00:54pm

Brian is an idiot

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:03:26pm

JFC

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freetoken  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:06:27pm

One of Mohler’s minions retweeting Southern Baptist butthurt over changing an ancient chant:

Of course, what they chant as the current “Apostle’s Creed” itself was changed over the centuries.

But this follows on the heels of a new re-emphasis on the patriarchy model of society, which apparently now is the line-in-the-sand for the SBC and other fundamentalists.

Mohler himself apparently has developed a fascination for Jordan Peterson:

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:07:12pm

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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You said what you said.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:08:20pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:11:39pm

re: #276 HappyWarrior

Beto is one of our best. Man I hope he ends Cruz.

Part of me is being selfish by wanting him to run for President in 2020 instead of spending his time running against Cruz.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:13:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:15:33pm

re: #283 GlutenFreeJesus

Part of me is being selfish by wanting him to run for President in 2020 instead of spending his time running against Cruz.

I hear ya!

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:17:32pm

Does anyone else find The Handmaid’s Take creepy as fuck and hard to watch?

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fern01  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:19:33pm

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And Lawrence is currently using the words LIE and LYING and says the president* said not one word of truth this morning. 1 reporter at the press chat this am had a good question and that question was

Why are you lying?

trump refused to acknowledge or answer

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wheat-dogg  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:19:47pm

re: #286 MsJ

Does anyone else find The Handmaid’s Take creepy as fuck and hard to watch?

Yes.

I have to space out watching each episode over several days, because each is so depressing in the current Trump environment.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:19:56pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:21:55pm

re: #286 MsJ

I did not even try. Probably my mistake but my entertainment time these days is kinda recovery time. Recovery from the news.

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:26:00pm

re: #288 wheat-dogg

Yes.

I have to space out watching each episode over several days, because each is so depressing in the current Trump environment.

Honestly, I watch the last 15 minutes because it’s on before Hard Sun (really good show, BTW). I don’t think I could take much more than those 15 minutes.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:28:18pm

re: #291 MsJ

Honestly, I watch the last 15 minutes because it’s on before Hard Sun (really good show, BTW). I don’t think I could take much more than those 15 minutes.

I made it through the first season. Now I’m only on the second episode of season 2.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:34:03pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:36:58pm

Facebook Post

When Texas turns blue, we will have state-funded taco trucks, to be paid for by a tax on religious schools and church-based health supplement sales. The program, Tacos for Texans, will be part of our mental health initiative.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:39:30pm

re: #288 wheat-dogg

Yes.

I have to space out watching each episode over several days, because each is so depressing in the current Trump environment.

Yeah, I have a feeling we’re going to be turning it off for the night soon. And we haven’t yet finished the episode we started.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:40:56pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:40:58pm

re: #295 MsJ

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No pity.

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blueraven  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:41:22pm

re: #283 GlutenFreeJesus

Part of me is being selfish by wanting him to run for President in 2020 instead of spending his time running against Cruz.

Beto is the antidote for Trump. He is intelligent, hard working, passionate, and decent.
We desperately need someone like him right about now.

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MsJ  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:41:36pm
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MsJ  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:42:05pm

re: #298 HappyWarrior

No pity.

None whatsoever.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:42:27pm

re: #294 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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When Texas turns blue, we will have state-funded taco trucks, to be paid for by a tax on religious schools and church-based health supplement sales. The program, Tacos for Texans, will be part of our mental health initiative.

Good lady with a taco……

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:42:59pm

re: #300 MsJ

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Rick is one Never Trumper in the GOP I do respect.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:43:50pm

re: #299 blueraven

Beto is the antidote for Trump. He is intelligent, hard working, passionate, and decent.
We desperately need someone like him right about now.

Yep. He reminds me of RFK kinda.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:47:14pm
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lawhawk  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:47:31pm

Why would Rudy, who’s currently representing Trump, be able to see the evidence against Manafort beyond what the prosecutors have indicated in the indictments, superseding indictments, and motions to revoke bail. He knows damned well that there’s sufficient evidence against Manafort. Rudy routinely put people in prison for similar or less criminal conduct.

The bail revocation isn’t taken lightly, and Rudy used to practice that as well because he his office would demand the same when people engaged in misconduct violating terms of bail.

But let’s not quibble over facts. Rudy’s playing to an audience of one - Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:50:26pm

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I hope her grandparents are proud.

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lawhawk  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:50:36pm

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

I caught that in the overnight dead thread, and it was BS then, and it’s bs now.

NK and China have been periodically sending remains to the US for decades.

This didn’t just happen now. The US has been periodically testing remains to try and give families closure.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:51:21pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:52:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:54:13pm

re: #308 lawhawk

I caught that in the overnight dead thread, and it was BS then, and it’s bs now.

NK and China have been periodically sending remains to the US for decades.

This didn’t just happen now. The US has been periodically testing remains to try and give families closure.

I read about stories like it often. Not one of them had a parent receiving the remains.

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Belafon  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:55:40pm

re: #309 Single-handed sailor

Reason number n+1 for why I don’t do the country.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:57:01pm

re: #308 lawhawk

I caught that in the overnight dead thread, and it was BS then, and it’s bs now.

NK and China have been periodically sending remains to the US for decades.

This didn’t just happen now. The US has been periodically testing remains to try and give families closure.

Missing Korean War Veteran Returns Home to Bay Area(2016)

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lawhawk  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:57:53pm
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lawhawk  Jun 15, 2018 • 7:59:21pm

re: #313 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Yeah, thousands of remains have been returned to the US and the US conducts periodic DNA testing to see if they match remains on record.

9/11 actually made more testing possible against more degraded remains. The techniques they pioneered to give 9/11 victims families closure are being applied to MIA remains.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 15, 2018 • 8:02:04pm

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump could claim he makes the sun rise in the morning and the AP would report it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 15, 2018 • 8:05:26pm

re: #316 Skip Intro

Trump could claim he makes the sun rise in the morning and the AP would report it.

And he’d blame the rainy weather on Clinton.

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plansbandc  Jun 15, 2018 • 8:06:13pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 15, 2018 • 8:07:49pm

I’d give the Nobel Peace Prize to the person who could pull this off!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 8:09:03pm

re: #319 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’d give the Nobel Peace Prize to the person who could pull this off!

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Or TheRealDonaldTrump, this account has been deleted.

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Interesting Times  Jun 15, 2018 • 8:13:11pm

Ha:

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meteor  Jun 15, 2018 • 8:15:37pm
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MsJ  Jun 15, 2018 • 8:18:27pm

re: #322 meteor

That pooch still looks pretty bummed. He’s just doing it with a friend. 😢

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jaunte  Jun 15, 2018 • 8:20:23pm
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jaunte  Jun 15, 2018 • 8:22:06pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 15, 2018 • 8:27:20pm

I wonder how many of those detention centers are on the Canadian border…

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jaunte  Jun 15, 2018 • 8:27:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 8:28:11pm

re: #327 jaunte

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Trump and his party/admin don’t care.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 15, 2018 • 8:38:04pm

Hi, y’all. I’m only here briefly. My wife’s computer (and with it our trip planning) went to the doc in Scottsbluff today.

For Cheechako and Team Canada LGF, our planned Yukon trip. Incredibly long link embedded below which goes to Google Maps.

google.com

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Jay C  Jun 15, 2018 • 8:39:55pm

re: #304 HappyWarrior

re: #299 blueraven

Beto is the antidote for Trump. He is intelligent, hard working, passionate, and decent.
We desperately need someone like him right about now.

Yep. He reminds me of RFK kinda.

I wonder if it’s just a coincidence that his given name is “Robert Francis O’Rourke”……?

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Interesting Times  Jun 15, 2018 • 8:40:16pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 8:44:30pm

re: #330 Jay C

I wonder if it’s just a coincidence that his given name is “Robert Francis O’Rourke”……?

Ha it is something.

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petesh  Jun 15, 2018 • 8:51:33pm

re: #237 Charles Johnson

Maggie’s risking losing her access tonight.

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Let’s encourage her! It may well be that the treatment of small children genuinely shocked her, in that she didn’t believe even these guys would let it happen even after it hit the front pages. Look on it as gradually rolling up the next concentric circle of support.

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I cannot.  Jun 15, 2018 • 8:58:09pm

I’m probably going to twitter jail for this.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 15, 2018 • 8:58:33pm

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 15, 2018 • 9:00:26pm

re: #334 I cannot.

I’m probably going to twitter jail for this.

Nazis to Twitter: Just fine.
Strong language: Gotta ban that.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 15, 2018 • 9:01:55pm

re: #336 Anymouse 🌹

Nazis to Twitter: Just fine.
Strong language: Gotta ban that.

Reminds me of a post I made earlier on one of my liberal friends’ FB feeds, in reply to a comment about how wingnuts get butthurt any time someone uses strong language at a Trump-humper: “Trumpers are allowed to print shirts that say, ‘Fuck your feelings,’ but if Samantha Bee says the word ‘cunt’, that’s a problem.”

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Citizen K  Jun 15, 2018 • 9:08:40pm

The sheer success of the NCGOP’s coup is flat out depressing. The state is literally lost for at least a generation at this point.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 15, 2018 • 9:09:05pm

re: #337 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Reminds me of a post I made earlier on one of my liberal friends’ FB feeds, in reply to a comment about how wingnuts get butthurt any time someone uses strong language at a Trump-humper: “Trumpers are allowed to print shirts that say, ‘Fuck your feelings,’ but if Samantha Bee says the word ‘cunt’, that’s a problem.”

Well, when Senator Kirsten Gillibrand used the F-bomb on television, you’d’ve thought she was bringing on the Apocalypse.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 15, 2018 • 9:11:18pm

re: #338 Citizen K

The sheer success of the NCGOP’s coup is flat out depressing. The state is literally lost for at least a generation at this point.

Conservatism is about grasping and maintaining power. Conservatives across the world and in all times have used the tools of democracy to eliminate democracy.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 15, 2018 • 9:17:26pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jun 15, 2018 • 9:19:15pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 15, 2018 • 9:20:16pm

re: #342 Single-handed sailor

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Wow, Trudeau knows exactly how to hit him where it hurts.

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b.d. (I Really Care..Do U?)  Jun 15, 2018 • 9:20:19pm

Wingnuts bubble of bullshit that it has to be broken on one side, some time?

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jaunte  Jun 15, 2018 • 9:26:46pm

re: #342 Single-handed sailor

I’m glad Trudeau recognizes this insanity belongs to Trump and not the majority of Americans. I hope the rest of the world follows suit.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 15, 2018 • 9:33:11pm

re: #343 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Wow, Trudeau knows exactly how to hit him where it hurts.

Yep, heck Toronto already told Trump to fuck off with his hotel there and renamed it,

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 15, 2018 • 9:34:30pm

In reference to Maggie Haberman’s tweet noted above, we had this discussion here some time ago, about calling a lie “a lie.”

There was a great deal of pushback over the idea of wingnuts constantly trying to get Obama to say “radical Islamic terrorism.”

They are not the same. Wingnuts were trying to get Obama to say something that was essentially untrue.

I want a lie to be called a lie.

None of this “he put an asterisk on his hyperbole” stuff.

Words matter. Trump lies. As long as the press will not call a lie for what it is and uses other softer language, his propaganda will continue to confuse or misinform people.

But then, Ms. Haberman works for the same fascist-curious newspaper that claimed people were over-reacting to Hitler’s rhetoric. Even the Christian Science Monitor figured out what Hitler was up to and corrected themselves.

The New York Times has never corrected its position that people were being hyperbolic about Hitler’s plans.

This is the same paper that gave us Judith Miller and her stenography for GW Bush, and would not call his lies “lies” either.

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mmmirele  Jun 15, 2018 • 9:38:09pm

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, this is why Trump’s wall won’t go over well with the Tohono O’Odham. They’ve already been treated like shit by CBP and a wall cutting them off from their Mexican-side kin is going to piss them off.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 9:38:17pm

re: #342 Single-handed sailor

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Good. Fuck Trump and his businesses.

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b.d. (I Really Care..Do U?)  Jun 15, 2018 • 9:38:20pm

Hey,

Why does The Mooch keep showing up on my TV thing?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 9:39:03pm

re: #350 b.d. (Lock Him Up!)

Hey,

Why does The Mooch keep showing up on my TV thing?

Because the media love that obnoxious piece of crap.

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Renaissance_Man  Jun 15, 2018 • 9:39:33pm

re: #345 jaunte

I’m glad Trudeau recognizes this insanity belongs to Trump and not the majority of Americans. I hope the rest of the world follows suit.

I think this is a process born of necessity. As in, Canada and the rest of the world hopefully have realised that there will be no response if they act against American people or businesses, even in areas of Trump support. This is because neither Trump nor the people targeted care what happens to them. Only actions towards Trump and his own family will have any response, which is why Canada and some nations want to target them, and why China and other nations bypass middlemen and simply bribe Trump’s family directly.

I hope, however, that responses in this trade war affect all Americans. I’ve said that unless Americans, good and bad, suffer serious consequences and feel genuine hurt, they will simply slide further into dictatorship and rogue state status. They will simply elect more petty tyrants and racist fascists, and the next ones won’t be as pathetic as Trump. With this in mind, I think economic pain is the least of the suffering we all need to feel if there’s any hope for the future.

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b.d. (I Really Care..Do U?)  Jun 15, 2018 • 9:39:54pm

re: #351 HappyWarrior

Because the media love that obnoxious piece of crap.

Ebola had more influence and lasted longer……

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 15, 2018 • 9:41:34pm

re: #343 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Wow, Trudeau knows exactly how to hit him where it hurts.

Our own nation sanctions (well, until recently) leaders who commit gross human rights violations. This action with children at the border has been condemned by the United Nations and many individual governments.

I despise the idea that our nation is even at a place where nations would consider sanctioning our leaders, but it is what it is. (Perhaps Mr. Trudeau should consider Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan while he’s at it.)

Sanctioning US leaders would be a diplomatic coup for nations like Russia and North Korea, but if our own grasping conservatives will not abide the rule of law, then perhaps that coup is worth it.

Targeted sanctions also have the benefit of not damaging those in a nation who are not part of the crap fest going on there.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 15, 2018 • 9:46:53pm

re: #350 b.d. (Lock Him Up!)

It’s because you have cable. Cut the cord.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 15, 2018 • 9:49:55pm

Ha ha

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HappyWarrior  Jun 15, 2018 • 9:51:56pm

re: #356 Single-handed sailor

Ha ha

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Oh Gerry, you sly bastard. I’ve met him. Good guy.

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b.d. (I Really Care..Do U?)  Jun 15, 2018 • 9:54:04pm

re: #355 Single-handed sailor

It’s because you have cable. Cut the cord.

but how would i know if someone i don’t respect has something ridiculous to say?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 15, 2018 • 9:55:05pm

re: #358 b.d. (Lock Him Up!)

but how would i know if someone i don’t respect has something ridiculous to say?

LGF covers it straight, Wonkette adds heaping helpings of snark.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 15, 2018 • 10:07:38pm

My sister just sent me an E-mail snarking on the “party of family values”:

Nevada pimp wins GOP primary, rejoices with Hollywood madam (goes to ABC)

Pimp Dennis Hof, owner of half a dozen legal brothels in Nevada and star of the HBO adult reality series “Cathouse,” won a Republican primary for the state Legislature on Tuesday, ousting a three-term lawmaker.

Hof defeated hospital executive James Oscarson. He’ll face Democrat Lesia Romanov in November, and will be the favored candidate in the Republican-leaning Assembly district.

Hof celebrated his win at a party in Pahrump, Nevada, with “Hollywood Madam” Heidi Fleiss at his side.

“It’s all because Donald Trump was the Christopher Columbus for me,” Hof told The Associated Press in a phone call. “He found the way and I jumped on it.”

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teleskiguy  Jun 15, 2018 • 10:09:42pm

Heard this on the community radio station out of Carbondale, CO on the drive home tonight.

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fern01  Jun 15, 2018 • 10:12:32pm

re: #237 Charles Johnson

Maggie’s risking losing her access tonight.

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And trump has 100% lost his humanity. What isn’t being highlighted - and it should be - the assistance he is getting from his weasel of an A.G.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 15, 2018 • 10:16:42pm

How this plays out in view of the world is pathetic.

What a disgrace.

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fern01  Jun 15, 2018 • 10:17:05pm

re: #246 sagehen

The ashes of the world-renowned physicist were interred between Isaac Newton and Charles Darwin.

That is a massive WOW and AWESOME. Shame Fox won’t report on it cause the moron needs to see what happens to the good guys.

The brits have issues - but they sure get the pomp and circumstance right.

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fern01  Jun 15, 2018 • 10:18:19pm

re: #247 Charles Johnson

I had to rant. Had to.

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That is an insult to grandmothers - prying or otherwise. They are nowhere near as grass as facebook.

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teleskiguy  Jun 15, 2018 • 10:23:55pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jun 15, 2018 • 10:29:15pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 15, 2018 • 10:32:11pm

re: #265 SteelPH

This shit makes my blood boil. This Administration are fucking monsters.

This Administration did not create the evil that allowed their election; it is QAnon, Alex Jones, Limbaugh, Fox are the source of this evil. Yes — Russia may have been responsible for manipulating the tens of thousands of votes that ultimately made the difference, but tens of millions still voted for Trump. There is something deeply wrong with this country and its media that allowed such a monster to be elected.

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teleskiguy  Jun 15, 2018 • 10:41:30pm

Damn. RIP. Great guy.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 15, 2018 • 10:50:34pm

So, the authorities have reassembled Michael Cohen’s shredded docs and discovered a shit-ton of encrypted messages.

Cohen’s up shit creek without a paddle. He needs to flip to save his skin.

There’s one thing I suspect he can offer: Let us recollect that Cohen pops up in the Steele Dossier; the story goes that Cohen met with the Russians in Prague in 2016 on Trump’s behalf, to discuss - at the very least -

(a) how to pay the hackers, and

(b) the ROSNEFT deal.

If Cohen can confirm these allegations to be factual, then his cooperation with the authorities would mean that Trump is screwed.

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Targetpractice  Jun 15, 2018 • 10:52:06pm

re: #369 teleskiguy

Damn. RIP. Great guy.

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Gonna make it a bit hard to get the band back together now.

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RIP Matt

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teleskiguy  Jun 15, 2018 • 10:57:08pm

re: #371 Targetpractice

Gonna make it a bit hard to get the band back together now.

How he knew Elwood’s love for plain white toast - dry - and Jake’s predilection for four fried chickens and a Coke I don’t want to understand.

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Targetpractice  Jun 15, 2018 • 10:57:54pm

While we pour one out, let’s listen to some good tunes in Matt’s honor:

The Blues Brothers - Sweet Home Chicago - 1080p Full HD

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 15, 2018 • 11:08:13pm

re: #364 fern01

That is a massive WOW and AWESOME. Shame Fox won’t report on it cause the moron needs to see what happens to the good guys.

The brits have issues - but they sure get the pomp and circumstance right.

That is a stunningly beautiful monument carved by a master stonemason. It is a fitting memorial for a giant amongst scientists.

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teleskiguy  Jun 15, 2018 • 11:14:37pm

re: #374 Anymouse 🌹

That is a fucking beautiful grave for the man. And the United Kingdom did him right in death by honoring him the way they did Charles Darwin.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 15, 2018 • 11:16:18pm

re: #368 Hecuba’s daughter

This Administration did not create the evil that allowed their election; it is QAnon, Alex Jones, Limbaugh, Fox are the source of this evil. Yes — Russia may have been responsible for manipulating the tens of thousands of votes that ultimately made the difference, but tens of millions still voted for Trump. There is something deeply wrong with this country and its media that allowed such a monster to be elected.

It is not QAnon or Alex Jones, or even FOX. They are just cashing in on the gullibility created for decades by the GOP.

Wind back all the way to the Civil Rights Act, and Barry Goldwater inviting the likes of the Ku Klux Klan and the John Birch Society into his party. Throw in Nixon’s Southern Strategy inviting in disaffected Wallace voters, then Paul Weyrich and Jerry Falwell working to bring in hordes of Evangelical voters for Ronald Reagan.

The GOP created this, not the grifters making money off their voters spreading even more derp.

FOX News exists because Nixon’s man Roger Ailes wanted a GOP TV and Ronald Reagan gave it to him by eliminating the Fairness Doctrine (coupled with the FCC having little authority over cable television).

Alex Jones started on Austin cable access television (his show aired right after The Atheist Experience; they even did an interview with Jones once when he called in).

(4:35, July 2, 2000)

Alex Jones of InfoWars - Humanism | Alex Jones - Austin, TX | Atheist Experience 142

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Dave In Austin  Jun 15, 2018 • 11:26:12pm

Pineapple??

378
Anymouse 🌹  Jun 15, 2018 • 11:30:48pm

And as always on social media there are the jerks:

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teleskiguy  Jun 15, 2018 • 11:36:04pm

re: #378 Anymouse 🌹

Fuck that guy. He sucks.

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freetoken  Jun 15, 2018 • 11:41:46pm

re: #379 teleskiguy

It’s also just stupid. The Church of England is a state organ, and Westminster Abbey is thus an organ of the state.

Being interred thus at Westminster Abbey is a function of Hawking’s contribution to the UK.

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majii  Jun 15, 2018 • 11:45:17pm

re: #379 teleskiguy

“re: #378 Anymouse 🌹

Fuck that guy. He sucks.”

I’m a Christian, and alleged Christians like Carlos Ramirez piss me off to no end. Dude doesn’t seem to realize that according to NT scripture, he can’t save his own damn soul, so what makes him think he can make disparaging comments about Hawking? He’s a fking hypocrite and doesn’t seem to realize it.

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teleskiguy  Jun 15, 2018 • 11:50:04pm

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 15, 2018 • 11:51:15pm

re: #380 freetoken

It’s also just stupid. The Church of England is a state organ, and Westminster Abbey is thus an organ of the state.

Being interred thus at Westminster Abbey is a function of Hawking’s contribution to the UK.

do not expect Internet trolls to understand nuances of church & state

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freetoken  Jun 15, 2018 • 11:52:56pm

Someone who understands the historical roots of our team sports:

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 15, 2018 • 11:53:14pm

re: #381 majii

“re: #378 Anymouse 🌹

Fuck that guy. He sucks.”

I’m a Christian, and alleged Christians like Carlos Ramirez piss me off to no end. Dude doesn’t seem to realize that according to NT scripture, he can’t save his own damn soul, so what makes him think he can make disparaging comments about Hawking? He’s a fking hypocrite and doesn’t seem to realize it.

Well, I wasn’t making a statement in reference to his alleged religiosity or no, just that regardless of the sort of good thing that is posted on social media, it seems there is some jerk who is unhappy about it. (There are a few other comments in the Westminster Abbey thread asking why Prof. Hawking is buried in the Abbey, but that guy particularly stood out with his crass remark.)

Speaking of well, I got an E-mail tonight. On our village’s main well, the controller is fixed, and the well pump is back on-line.

The irrigation company which services our wells and controllers noted that when the tornado on May 10 ripped the power wiring out of the building, it did not damage the controllers. The sudden surge and loss of electricity scrambled the programming. All they had to do was re-program the controller. (Yay, village saves quite a bit of money.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 16, 2018 • 12:06:37am

The remnants of Pacific Hurricane Bud are spreading northward along the Arizona-New Mexico state line, moving toward Colorado. The tropical depression is still holding together well and is starting to spread rain into SW Colorado.

spc.noaa.gov (with radar)

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Scottish Dragon  Jun 16, 2018 • 12:16:45am

re: #293 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Holy. Shit.

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teleskiguy  Jun 16, 2018 • 12:19:56am
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Lupin  Jun 16, 2018 • 1:52:25am

I don’t know if 40% of America is evil, or only 30% or less, but if you care, you should be out in the streets in massive demonstrations.

During the Vietnam War one of things that helped America maintaining its good guy image in Europe was the visible opposition to it from America’s youth and counterculture movement. We hated Johnson’s and Nixon’s war-mongering policy, but another America was there on display.

Right now your country is as evil a force as the old USSR ever was, and ranting on twitter is not enough. You’ve got to do more.

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Lupin  Jun 16, 2018 • 2:09:55am

re: #352 Renaissance_Man

I hope, however, that responses in this trade war affect all Americans. I’ve said that unless Americans, good and bad, suffer serious consequences and feel genuine hurt, they will simply slide further into dictatorship and rogue state status. They will simply elect more petty tyrants and racist fascists, and the next ones won’t be as pathetic as Trump. With this in mind, I think economic pain is the least of the suffering we all need to feel if there’s any hope for the future.

I could not agree more. I too believe that the only way that will steer the US back to a path or normalcy is something on the scale of the Great Depression. I truly bleed for all the good people in the US, but it’s going to take a massive hurt to get the message across.

Anecdotally, more people here are starting to boycott US products the way they used to boycott South African ones.

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lawhawk  Jun 16, 2018 • 5:45:46am

re: #374 Anymouse 🌹

And his remains will lie between those of Sir Isaac Newton and Charles Darwin.

I’d say that is as fitting a final resting place as any.

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William Lewis  Jun 16, 2018 • 6:34:21am

re: #381 majii

“re: #378 Anymouse 🌹

Fuck that guy. He sucks.”

I’m a Christian, and alleged Christians like Carlos Ramirez piss me off to no end. Dude doesn’t seem to realize that according to NT scripture, he can’t save his own damn soul, so what makes him think he can make disparaging comments about Hawking? He’s a fking hypocrite and doesn’t seem to realize it.

Were I on twitter, I’d ask him if I could tell him the good news since it is obvious (Matthew 7:16) that he’s never known Christ Jesus… ;)

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William Lewis  Jun 16, 2018 • 6:36:27am

re: #374 Anymouse 🌹

That is exquisite. The black hole imagery on black with his famous equation. One of the finest imaginable monuments possible.

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William Lewis  Jun 16, 2018 • 7:35:05am

re: #183 Backwoods_Sleuth

Herr Gobbels sends his admiration for his protege straight from Hell.

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William Lewis  Jun 16, 2018 • 7:38:50am

re: #187 MsJ

This is how Terrorists are made.

Of course. But that’s a feature not a bug; Fascists need eternal war to prevent the proletariat from recognizing their oppression and rebelling.


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