Amazing New Song From Punch Brothers: “It’s All Part of the Plan”

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Punch Brothers’ “It’s All Part of the Plan,” from the new album, All Ashore, out July 20 on CD/digital, September 7 on vinyl. Get the song now when you pre-order the album: smarturl.it

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Filmed at Layman Drug Company, Nashville, TN
Directed by Alex Chaloff

Lyrics:

It’s all part of the plan
I’ll have ‘em eating out of my hand
I’ll have ‘em eating out of my hand

Inside a week

The devil’s lost his way
He’s getting weaker every day
He’s getting weaker every day
He thought he’d thought of something to say
Said it till he was blue in the face

I think I’m free

Cause I’m in charge now and he isn’t
And it isn’t anybody’s business but mine
Everybody’s business is mine

And I’ve doing just as I please since I found my skeleton key
God, I love my skeleton key
You’ll never guess who sold it to me
How much I bought it for but believe me buddy I got a hell of a deal

A hell of a deal
The struggle is fake
The triumph is real
(You can never get the rest of what you can never get enough of)

This is all part of the plan
Look I’m a god more than a man
Now I’m a god I don’t give a damn about my soul

So if I sign it away in blood
So I can scare the world into loving me
And I scare the world into loving me
I’ll have turned nothing into something
And buddy if you think I look rough
Y’should see the fool at the other end of deal
(You can never get the rest of what you can never get enough of)

Write me a law I’ll rise above
And give me hell and I’ll make a hell of a deal
A hell of a deal
The torment is fake
The glory is real

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558 comments
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:26:10pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:28:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:31:56pm

re: #2 teleskiguy

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Good deal. I always liked him as a player and guy. Good going Ray.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:32:16pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:36:15pm

So, the COO of Arapahoe Basin ski area in Colorado took this picture today.

I’ve skied down that chute a few times. Weird seeing it without snow. Man, skiing is fucking crazy, y’all!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:38:12pm

An interesting thing in my regional newspaper today about Ford Motor Company:

DETROIT (AP) — Ford Motor Co. plans to release details of its planned conversion of the long-vacant Michigan Central train station just west of downtown Detroit. The Dearborn-based automaker recently bought the 105-year-old building and is expected to redevelop the 500,000-square-foot (46,000-square-meter) structure as part of its plans for a campus focusing on autonomous vehicles.

The station, which looms over Detroit’s Corktown neighborhood, has stood empty since the last train left in 1988 . Stripped by vandals and time of its past beauty and value, the building came to symbolize Detroit’s long decline from manufacturing powerhouse to bankruptcy.

starherald.com

The article goes on about the history of the Michigan Central rail station, its demise in 1988 and aborted projects to renovate it, and what Ford hopes to do with it now that the company has acquired it.

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sagehen  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:48:55pm

Jay-Z and Beyonce release unannounced joint album.

Most of it’s only available on Tidal, but everybody can watch the first single. Apparently they’re art lovers. And the Louvre loves them back.

APES**T - THE CARTERS

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 16, 2018 • 9:55:43pm

Off-topic: My wife is happy. The Cubs downed the Cards today 6-3. They are winning .597, and are confusingly in second place behind the Milwaukee Brewers (half a game behind).

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:00:56pm

From the last thread:

re: #355 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

And yet Atlas Juggs will call anyone who criticizes Nethanyahu in any way a Kapo….

LOL at “Atlas Juggs” but I don’t know who that refers to. Stephen Miller’s mother, or someone else?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:03:06pm

re: #9 Anymouse 🌹

From the last thread:

LOL at “Atlas Juggs” but I don’t know who that refers to. Stephen Miller’s mother, or someone else?

Pam Geller of Atlas Shrugged.

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mmmirele  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:13:27pm

re: #7 sagehen

Jay-Z and Beyonce release unannounced joint album.

Most of it’s only available on Tidal, but everybody can watch the first single. Apparently they’re art lovers. And the Louvre loves them back.

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Video

My goodness, the Louvre loves them. I did have to roll it back because there was a moment about halfway through where I thought Jay-Z had actually put his hand on the frame of “The Raft of the Medusa.” (Actually, he didn’t.) Interesting selection of works they chose for the video: Winged Victory of Samothrace, the Mona Lisa, The Raft of the Medusa, David’s Coronation of Napoleon. I’m sure there are some I missed.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:17:44pm

I’m going to log out so my wife can use the computer now. Hers is still at the computer hospital in Scottsbluff. G’night, y’all.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:19:05pm

Damn those Papaya King hotdogs and fixings were so good…Next we’ll order the Primanti sandwich kits from Goldbely!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:20:54pm

Dusty with a Chance of Dust:

The Last Time the Dust was This Bad:

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:22:58pm

Prediction: Cheetolini will shortly blame the Fremen of Dune or Ferangi business interests for one if his foul-ups.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:26:09pm

re: #15 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Prediction: Cheetolini will shortly blame the Fremen of Dune or Ferangi business interests for one if his foul-ups.

Somebody needs to put his face on Baron Harkonnen floating around on his antigravs. Maybe the atrocious art direction of the Dune movie will finally serve some purpose.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:32:48pm

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:35:25pm

re: #17 The Ghost of a Flea

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OMFG!

ROTFLMAO!

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teleskiguy  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:38:25pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:42:49pm

And they’re buyyyyyyying the stairway to haaayyyyvvveeennn!

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Cheechako  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:53:56pm

re: #20 Joe Bacon 🌹

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This case could bring up some interesting legal questions. Does the State have to prove heaven doesn’t exist to prove fraud? If the purchaser believes in heaven and wants to buy a reserved, guaranteed place at the front of the line, has he been scammed?

I think a good defense attorney could have some fun with this case.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 16, 2018 • 10:54:37pm

re: #17 The Ghost of a Flea

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OK, so it was obvious…great cartoon!

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VegasGolfer  Jun 16, 2018 • 11:07:13pm

Don’t know how many of you pay attention to golf, besides working at a golf course raking bunkers, but I am totally disgusted with what Phil Mickelson did today. He hit a moving putt which is totally unheard of. (Unless you’re JonDaly). I have always thought he was a piece of shit, but this incident totally proved it to me. He disparaged the integrity of the game, disrespected his fellow players. He got off on insider trading charges (because why? He’s rich). Hes got a smug smile which wants to make you want to punch him in the face. Sound familiar?

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teleskiguy  Jun 16, 2018 • 11:09:07pm

re: #24 VegasGolfer

A lot of my golfer friends on Facebook were appalled too. Lots of talk like he was “acting like a baby.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 16, 2018 • 11:19:10pm

The NRA’s social media manager is up late on a Saturday night, apparently on a Meth binge, again

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VegasGolfer  Jun 16, 2018 • 11:21:29pm

re: #25 teleskiguy

A lot of my golfer friends on Facebook were appalled too. Lots of talk like he was “acting like a baby.”

Its totally unacceptable, but the example set from the top of our country makes it ok.
And phil got out of an insider trading charge.

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teleskiguy  Jun 16, 2018 • 11:22:46pm

Heinrich Himmler | Wikipedia

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 16, 2018 • 11:23:47pm

re: #27 VegasGolfer

Its totally unacceptable, but the example set from the top of our country makes it ok.
And phil got out of an insider trading charge.

Will he be the first Pro to drive a golfcart onto the green?

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teleskiguy  Jun 16, 2018 • 11:25:41pm

re: #27 VegasGolfer

I did hear on the radio driving home today that the USGA apologized for the course conditions. Out of the whole field, only five golfers golfed under par today, and they all had the earliest tee times, before the winds picked up and the greens dried out.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 16, 2018 • 11:29:23pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 16, 2018 • 11:31:20pm

re: #28 teleskiguy

When I think of Miller, I automatically compare him to Adolf Eichmann, the very man for whom the phrase “the banality of evil” was coined.

en.wikipedia.org

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teleskiguy  Jun 16, 2018 • 11:33:56pm

re: #32 Dr Lizardo

I remember that ghoul. One of the last SS to be executed, by the Israelis, in 1962.

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VegasGolfer  Jun 16, 2018 • 11:35:35pm

re: #30 teleskiguy

Gotta say, i think we had some confrontations in the past, but you just responded to me in a totally civil manner. And that is totally cool. I would like to partake of some herb if your ever in Vegas, or if I ever come up to Co.

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teleskiguy  Jun 16, 2018 • 11:37:54pm

Charles ranted about how stupid and evil Facebook is - on Twitter, which has many of the same problems, and their own problems - yesterday. Of course The Onion puts this out today.

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teleskiguy  Jun 16, 2018 • 11:41:16pm

re: #34 VegasGolfer

Hey man, I hate golf. But it’s everywhere last I checked. I just quit a job at a golf course (I think you might like it, here’s their website). All that aside, I like to think that we’re all friends here. Because we are. Think about it! Cheers! I’m smokin’ some stuff called Green Crack.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 16, 2018 • 11:42:15pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jun 16, 2018 • 11:44:24pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 16, 2018 • 11:45:29pm

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹

Off-topic: My wife is happy. The Cubs downed the Cards today 6-3. They are winning .597, and are confusingly in second place behind the Milwaukee Brewers (half a game behind).

When I was eight years old, my brother took me to Wrigley Field to watch the Cubs sweep the Cardinals in a double header and caught a foul ball int he stands that he gave to me.

I went and got it signed by Ferguson Jenkins.

Made the mistake of showing it off to the kids in the neighborhood in Gary, Indiana.

Never saw it again.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:25:21am

So, I need to go to sleep and my cousin is PM’ing me with a bunch of weird shit about how I’m not a good mother, etc., since my alcoholic husband divorced me. WTF!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:26:59am

re: #40 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

So, I need to go to sleep and my cousin is PM’ing me with a bunch of weird shit about how I’m not a good mother, etc., since my alcoholic husband divorced me. WTF!

My oldest sister joined the Mormon Church, but at least she does not preach or proselytize me.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:30:26am

re: #41 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

My oldest sister joined the Mormon Church, but at least she does not preach or proselytize me.

LOL. My little sister joined the Mormon Church when she got married to her second husband. Then, when they got divorced, she met a Muslim guy from Algeria online and they got married and she’s now a Muslim.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:47:57am

Ugh. Just was called a bitch by my cousin. Told her to sleep it off and then reread everything in the morning. Goodnight, everyone.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:23:37am

Weasel-worded-woman taken to task.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:33:19am

re: #44 Single-handed sailor

Headline writers should just keep a boilerplate head handy: Trump lies yet again. It would save them lots of time, and it can be used for so many different stories.

Trump lies yet again
… about immigration.
… about knowing Manafort.
… about shtupping Stormy Daniels.

etc. etc.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:36:10am

Good article here about VA GOP Senate candidate Corey Stewart’s ties to white supremacists, which are apparently deeper than previously thought.

mediaite.com

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:07:13am

re: #45 wheat-dogg

…but they won’t.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:15:56am

I’m not sure where to begin with this shit except that this just seems like more subconscious projection. Not that these people think they’re actually witches themselves, but deep down they know they’re compromising whatever vestigial moral / ethical principles they once held. So naturally they have to imagine themselves in some metaphysical battle with supernatural evil to self justify supporting the side that is doing shit like literally getting kids killed through depraved indifference to the absurd ease of acquiring guns, or literally kidnapping children under color of law.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:39:20am

re: #48 goddamnedfrank

I’m not sure where to begin with this shit except that this just seems like more subconscious projection. Not that these people think they’re actually witches themselves, but deep down they know they’re compromising whatever vestigial moral / ethical principles they once held. So naturally they have to imagine themselves in some metaphysical battle with supernatural evil to self justify supporting the side that is doing shit like literally getting kids killed through depraved indifference to the absurd ease of acquiring guns, or literally kidnapping children under color of law.

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I’m just waiting for the NRA to start buying into that whole QAnon insanity.

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Amory Blaine  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:40:50am

Willie Nelson - Just Breathe

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:52:34am

re: #49 Dr Lizardo

I’m just waiting for the NRA to start buying into that whole QAnon insanity.

It explains a lot about shit like the Pizzagate / QAnon conspiracy theory when you think about it, and how it evolved from the earlier base denial mechanism of the “crisis actor” conspiracy. These people can no longer just ignore or deny the tangible, incredibly visible harm they see happening to children due to their monstrous leaders and policies they’re supporting. So they must invent ways of psychologically coping with that reality, by inventing a shadowy unreality, and filling it with even more sinister forces and ascribing those forces to their political opposition. “Sure, OK, we’re kidnapping children and killing them through inaction but I KNOW that YOU’RE raping them, cooking & eating them and sacrificing them to Ha-Satan.”

Perversely, the fact that they can’t ever prove any of their allegations only becomes proof in their minds that the theories must be true, because only the biblical Adversary could cover his tracks so cleverly. They’ve painted themselves so far into the fascist corner that to actually confront the reality of all the horrors they’ve condoned, all the principles they’ve sacrificed & all the ways they’ve undermined the moral belief system they once held dear would result in a guaranteed mental breakdown.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:54:47am

re: #42 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

LOL. My little sister joined the Mormon Church when she got married to her second husband. Then, when they got divorced, she met a Muslim guy from Algeria online and they got married and she’s now a Muslim.

Oldest sister was the one who wrote a big long letter to my my middle sister (when she left the Catholic church to marry a Lutheran) about abandoning the True Faith.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:55:28am

re: #44 Single-handed sailor

Trump Again Falsely Blames Democrats for His Separation Policy

He needs to be harried incessantly about this most egregious and blatant lie

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:59:35am

re: #51 goddamnedfrank

It explains a lot about shit like the Pizzagate / QAnon conspiracy theory when you think about it, and how it evolved from the earlier base denial mechanism of the “crisis actor” conspiracy.

we also saw a deranged climate in which anything, no matter how spurious or unfounded, was promoted if it seemed to harm Obama.

It started with birtherism and went downhill from there.

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freetoken  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:14:15am

We really shouldn’t be surprised that the NRA is now warning about witches…

The tarot revival thanks to Brexit, Trump and Dior

[…]

Tarot versus Trump

Ms Vogel credits Dior’s ethereal, tarot-inspired dresses with boosting the visibility of the centuries old practice across the world.

But she insists there are other reasons for tarot’s accelerating popularity.

“Our societies are going through an extreme sense of alienation,” says Ms Vogel, mentioning Donald Trump’s presidential victory in the US, as well as the rise of far-right groups, violence and misogyny.

“People are lonely and angry. Tarot helps them to cope with insecurity in these difficult times.”

Mike Sosteric, a sociologist at the University of Athabasca in Canada, agrees.

[…]

One example of this is the #MagicResistance movement. Every month, self-identifying witches gather to cast “mass spells” on Donald Trump, and use tarot to assist them in the task.

[…]

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freetoken  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:14:56am

Is is just me, or is human society in a backwards spiral?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:15:22am

re: #55 freetoken

One example of this is the #MagicResistance movement. Every month, self-identifying witches gather to cast “mass spells” on Donald Trump, and use tarot to assist them in the task.>

Thoughts and prayers

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:25:21am

re: #56 freetoken

Is is just me, or is human society in a backwards spiral?

yes. nobody is calling people out on dangerous and backward beliefs and we have an entire political party incorporating these things into their platform

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wheat-dogg  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:27:14am

re: #57 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Thoughts and prayers

Chants and spells

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:28:30am

re: #58 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

yes. nobody is calling people out on dangerous and backward beliefs and we have an entire political party incorporating these things into their platform

same things, different deities

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Amory Blaine  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:29:09am

You tell someone god is fake and they flip out. God is no less preposterous than witchcraft, how the fuck are we supposed to deal with that?

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wheat-dogg  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:35:32am

re: #61 Amory Blaine

You tell someone god is fake and they flip out. God is no less preposterous than witchcraft, how the fuck are we supposed to deal with that?

Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy — childish fantasies encouraged by parents
God, Allah, Vishnu, Zoroaster, Lucifer — totally realz! (depending on who you talk to)

See also, astrology, crystal energy, auras, etc.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:36:59am

re: #62 wheat-dogg

Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy — childish fantasies encouraged by parents
God, Allah, Vishnu, Zoroaster, Lucifer — totally realz! (depending on who you talk to)

See also, astrology, crystal energy, auras, etc.

If you want to use these as sources of personal ethics, values or search for truth or advice, then fine

but people want to incorporate these concepts into legislation

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wheat-dogg  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:40:08am

re: #63 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If you want to use these as sources of personal ethics, values or search for truth or advice, then fine

but people want to incorporate these concepts into legislation

Some people want to incorporate some of those concepts as taught by their specific religion into legislation, particularly ones that punish some people for violating those concepts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:41:38am

re: #64 wheat-dogg

Some people want to incorporate some of those concepts as taught by their specific religion into legislation, particularly ones that punish some people for violating those concepts.

subjectively and arbitrarily

Remember those who want to replace the Constitution with (their interpretation of) the Ten Commandments

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:44:12am

re: #58 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

yes. nobody is calling people out on dangerous and backward beliefs and we have an entire political party incorporating these things into their platform

People seem to be retreating into primitive thinking, driven by fear. It seems as though many seek, to quote H.P. Lovecraft, to “flee from the deadly light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.”

They seek solace in the comfort provided by the illusion of certainty, or hierarchy, or perhaps a top-down social and moral order where everyone knew their place. Society is highly complex and there are many who simply lack the intellectual equipment to cope with an ever-changing - and rapidly changing - world.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:44:17am

re: #56 freetoken

Is is just me, or is human society in a backwards spiral?

We enjoyed a long stretch where expertise was valued because it led to measurable technical and societal progress. Unfortunately the concomitant digital interconnectivity has led to a resurgence of populism where millions of fundamentally ignorant people have found and been reinforced by each other. They have collectively decided that book learning is an effete, elitist, corrupting process and that real knowledge is held in their gut feelings and atavistic reactions.

You can literally see this backwards mentality being articulated intellectually and given a pseudo scientific foundation by Jordan Peterson, who is convincing millions of angry men that inside of them is some mystical genetic reservoir of millions of years of accumulated ancestral experience and motherfucking lobster knowledge. Which is funny because he’s basically just repackaged Carl Jung & Joseph Campbell’s largely discredited archetypes theory, spiced it up with elements from Frank Herbert’s DUNE and sold it to MRA’s as a magical explanation for why men are inherently more orderly and superior to women.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:46:34am

re: #67 goddamnedfrank

We enjoyed a long stretch where expertise was valued because it led to measurable technical and societal progress. Unfortunately the concomitant digital interconnectivity has led to a resurgence of populism where millions of fundamentally ignorant people have found and been reinforced by each other. They have collectively decided that book learning is an effete, elitist, corrupting process and that real knowledge is held in their gut feelings and atavistic reactions.

People voted for Trump as the anti-politician and are pleased that he is putting people like Perry, Carson and DeVos in charge of government agencies they are clueless about.

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jeffreyw  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:17:33am

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Good morning!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:05:20am

re: #26 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The NRA’s social media manager is up late on a Saturday night, apparently on a Meth binge, again

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My guess, some DC Wiccans are supporting gun control and this triggered the loser that runs the account.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:08:19am

re: #51 goddamnedfrank

It explains a lot about shit like the Pizzagate / QAnon conspiracy theory when you think about it, and how it evolved from the earlier base denial mechanism of the “crisis actor” conspiracy. These people can no longer just ignore or deny the tangible, incredibly visible harm they see happening to children due to their monstrous leaders and policies they’re supporting. So they must invent ways of psychologically coping with that reality, by inventing a shadowy unreality, and filling it with even more sinister forces and ascribing those forces to their political opposition. “Sure, OK, we’re kidnapping children and killing them through inaction but I KNOW that YOU’RE raping them, cooking & eating them and sacrificing them to Ha-Satan.”

Perversely, the fact that they can’t ever prove any of their allegations only becomes proof in their minds that the theories must be true, because only the biblical Adversary could cover his tracks so cleverly. They’ve painted themselves so far into the fascist corner that to actually confront the reality of all the horrors they’ve condoned, all the principles they’ve sacrificed & all the ways they’ve undermined the moral belief system they once held dear would result in a guaranteed mental breakdown.

This is the Child Molestation/Satanic Rituals Witch Mania from the ’80s and early ’90s all over again. If we’d had the internet in those days it would have become more and more maniacal just like this Pizzagate bullshit. It was discredited for 25 years, but I’ll bet these are a lot of the same lunatics bringing it back.

It’s all projection, of course, because the only people who believe in Satanic rituals etc., are the ones making the accusations. They need to be thoroughly investigated, except there’s no LE agency that’s not infested by/run by them.

Edited because apparently an HTML tag can’t straddle two paragraphs.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:09:05am

re: #46 Dr Lizardo

Good article here about VA GOP Senate candidate Corey Stewart’s ties to white supremacists, which are apparently deeper than previously thought.

mediaite.com

Thanks. Anyhow he’s full of shit about Nehlen. Nehlen being a racist was well known.

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steve_davis  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:09:14am

re: #6 Anymouse 🌹

An interesting thing in my regional newspaper today about Ford Motor Company:

DETROIT (AP) — Ford Motor Co. plans to release details of its planned conversion of the long-vacant Michigan Central train station just west of downtown Detroit. The Dearborn-based automaker recently bought the 105-year-old building and is expected to redevelop the 500,000-square-foot (46,000-square-meter) structure as part of its plans for a campus focusing on autonomous vehicles.

The station, which looms over Detroit’s Corktown neighborhood, has stood empty since the last train left in 1988 . Stripped by vandals and time of its past beauty and value, the building came to symbolize Detroit’s long decline from manufacturing powerhouse to bankruptcy.

starherald.com

The article goes on about the history of the Michigan Central rail station, its demise in 1988 and aborted projects to renovate it, and what Ford hopes to do with it now that the company has acquired it.re: #22 Cheechako

This case could bring up some interesting legal questions. Does the State have to prove heaven doesn’t exist to prove fraud? If the purchaser believes in heaven and wants to buy a reserved, guaranteed place at the front of the line, has he been scammed?

I think a good defense attorney could have some fun with this case.

they falsely represented the tickets as being made of gold. that was their error.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:26:38am

re: #71 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

This is the Child Molestation/Satanic Rituals Witch Mania from the ’80s and early ’90s all over again. If we’d had the internet in those days it would have become more and more maniacal just like this Pizzagate bullshit.

It is the Jewish Blood Libel of the Middle Ages in modern form

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:39:50am

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is the Jewish Blood Libel of the Middle Ages in modern form

Right, except that was like my immune system going crazy at some perfectly harmless external allergen. This now is like an autoimmune disease attacking the body of our own society. House was wrong—sometimes it is lupus!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:49:44am

This wave of stupidity also reflects a general change in how we run our society.

We decided that we want the country to be “run like a business” to the point of electing a businessman with no experience in government to the Presidency.

Businesspeople look on education, infrastructure, health care, environmental protections and worker safety as costs to be minimized in order to increase the bottom line instead of as investments in an educated, healthy and prosperous society and work force.

We are paying the price for that sort of short-term thinking.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:50:23am

re: #26 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The NRA’s social media manager is up late on a Saturday night, apparently on a Meth binge, again

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Witchcraft? Witchcraft? Speechless.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:51:08am

re: #77 Patricia Kayden

Witchcraft? Witchcraft? Speechless.

Devil bunnies! I snort the nose, Lucifer!!!

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:53:34am

re: #78 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Devil bunnies! I snort the nose, Lucifer!!!

It’s as if the NRA are desperate or something. There’s no such thing as witchcraft. I thought we had put that behind us with the Salem witch trial travesty.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:55:13am

re: #79 Patricia Kayden

It’s as if the NRA are desperate or something. There’s no such thing as witchcraft. I thought we had put that behind us with the Salem witch trial travesty.

They know that enough of their supporters will take it seriously and that many others will not take them to task for being so damn Medieval about it.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:59:58am

“…We spoke to nine parents on this Monday, which was the 11th, and these were adults in detention centers outside of Houston. They had been separated from their child between May 23 and May 25, and as of June 11, not one of them had been able to talk to their child or knew a phone number that functioned from the detention center director. None of them had direct information from immigration on where their child was located. The one number they were given by some government official from the Department of Homeland Security was a 1-800 number. But from the phones inside the detention center, they can’t make those calls. We know there are more parents who are being deported without their child, without any process or information on how to get their child back.

TM: And so it’s entirely possible that children will be left in the country without any relatives?

AC: Could be, yeah.

TM: And if the child is, say, five years old …?

AC: The child is going through deportation proceedings, so the likelihood that that child is going to be deported is pretty high.

TM: How do they know where to deport the child to, or who the parents are?

AC: How does that child navigate their deportation case without their parent around?

TM: Because a five-year-old doesn’t necessarily know his parents’ information.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:10:42am

re: #54 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

we also saw a deranged climate in which anything, no matter how spurious or unfounded, was promoted if it seemed to harm Obama.

It started with birtherism and went downhill from there.

This didn’t start with Obama. Recall that during the 1990’s, Hillary spoke of a vast RW conspiracy out to get her husband and was mocked for doing so.

From the day Bill Clinton assumed office, the RW, led by the WSJ editorial page, was out to get him. No allegation was too outrageous to be published on their opinion pages, including repeated charges of various murders earlier in Arkansas and then in Washington, starting with Vince Foster’s suicide. The WSJ was eager to publish any charge, since unlike on their news pages, there was no need to investigate the merits of these allegations.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:12:40am

re: #82 Hecuba’s daughter

This didn’t start with Obama. Recall that during the 1990’s, Hillary spoke of a vast RW conspiracy out to get her husband and was mocked for doing so.

From the day Bill Clinton assumed office, the RW, led by the WSJ editorial page, was out to get him. No allegation was too outrageous to be published on their opinion pages, including repeated charges of various murders earlier in Arkansas and then in Washington, starting with Vince Foster’s suicide. The WSJ was eager to publish any charge, since unlike on their news pages, there was no need to investigate the merits of these allegations.

I guess that is true, but having a black man in office really notched it up to toxic levels.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:15:02am

re: #83 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I guess that is true, but having a black man in office really notched it up to toxic levels.

I saw Bill Clinton widely referred to as “The First Black President”—I guess because he was from Arkansas but wasn’t a racist. They apparently hadn’t thought of this designation for Jimmy Carter in his time.

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I cannot.  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:18:47am

re: #84 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

They weren’t that stupid back then. They’ve been regressing.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:19:01am

re: #20 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Florida has such crazy people. Both buyers and sellers of this “product” fall into that category.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:22:13am

re: #83 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I guess that is true, but having a black man in office really notched it up to toxic levels.

This would have stopped if Gingrich hadn’t succeeded in 1994 in taking over the House and Senate. But the RW learned that their tactics were effective in achieving power and they have no intention of abandoning a strategy that works: lies and deception have proved very successful for them and the modern Internet platforms allow them to ratchet up their lies a thousand-fold.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:22:52am

re: #26 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The NRA’s social media manager is up late on a Saturday night, apparently on a Meth binge, again

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“Oh and also, pray for us and the demise of the gun control culture!”. My spell has been cast.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:23:58am

re: #86 Eventual Carrion

Florida has such crazy people. Both buyers and sellers of this “product” fall into that category.

Carl Hiaasen has an entire novel, Lucky You, about all the religious scammers in Florida as it seems to be a lucrative place to operate.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:25:31am

Happy Fathers Day to all, past and present.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:26:25am

re: #90 Shropshire Slasher

Happy Fathers Day to all, past and present.

Germans celebrate Father’s Day on the Feast of the Ascension, which is a movable date based on Easter (E+40), which means it is always on a Thursday.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:38:34am

I am making a kitty window box. This one is similar to what I am making, except mine will have three carpeted levels and a clear roof.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:40:56am

re: #59 wheat-dogg

Chants and spells

Really. As I alluded to in my earlier comment, what is the difference between what they claim should be feared and what they encourage. 6 of one, half dozen of the other.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:42:57am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:46:13am

re: #94 jaunte

Right now I am in the ICE detention center in Elizabeth with @RepJerryNadler, @FrankPallone, @RepSires, @RepMaloney, @RepJeffries, and @RepEspaillat demanding immediate access to see parents who’ve been separated from their children by the administration.

Reps and Senators everywhere need to keep doing this until they gain access.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:47:21am

re: #94 jaunte

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This whole atrocity is a completely unforced error on the part of the maladministration, but it seems as if they can’t help themselves. This may be what brings them down. Destroying society, the economy, and the world diplomatic system wasn’t enough. Well, we’ll take what we can get.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:47:23am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:47:53am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Can they file a lawsuit in Federal court demanding access? You know, Congressional oversight.

Or is ICE above the law - or a law unto itself?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:49:47am

re: #92 Shropshire Slasher

I believe that the correct term is a “Catio”, at least that the term one use for searches for plans for said structure.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:50:09am

re: #98 Dr Lizardo

Can they file a lawsuit in Federal court demanding access? You know, Congressional oversight.

Or is ICE above the law - or a law unto itself?

That is a major issue that needs to be addressed, right now they seem to be acting as if they are free of even Congressional oversight.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:50:20am

re: #98 Dr Lizardo

Can they file a lawsuit in Federal court demanding access? You know, Congressional oversight.

Or is ICE above the law - or a law unto itself?

Congress has that ability, as well as the power to call for investigations and subpeona witnesses. The question is whether the Republican leadership will allow it. At this point, the minority party (and any decent Republicans) can only continue to prosecute the case in the court of public opinion.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:52:39am

re: #101 wheat-dogg

Congress has that ability, as well as the power to call for investigations and subpeona witnesses. The question is whether the Republican leadership will allow it. At this point, the minority party (and any decent Republicans) can only continue to prosecute the case in the court of public opinion.

Good point - right now, the GOP leadership seems going along with it, though I’m pretty sure they’re getting a little nervous about it, probably fearing that it could generate a major backlash among voters who aren’t Trump cultists.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:54:00am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:58:37am

re: #100 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is a major issue that needs to be addressed, right now they seem to be acting as if they are free of even Congressional oversight.

Wasn’t it moved to the Department of Vaterland Security? Of course, Congress might be one of the things they’ll need to provide security against. You never know when it might be controlled by Democrats, after all.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:59:15am
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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:59:49am
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:00:38am

Caputo claims it was a sleazy set up by the FBI. Still begs the question of why they didn’t report it:

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:01:07am
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wheat-dogg  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:02:19am

re: #97 Barefoot Grin

This seems like a calculated move by Trump & Co. to try to deflate any forthcoming charges by Mueller that the campaign obtained that Russian intel, rather than refusing it. Still, it’s a noticeable walk-back (to any with memories longer than 24 hours ago) from Trump’s insistence there was never a meeting, no one talked to the Russians, etc.

It suggests to me that Mueller is going to nail Stone next, and Roger is trying to head off disaster.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:02:34am
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Ace Rothstein  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:02:49am

Meet the Chuck intro calls Trump out for things that are “false” (doesn’t call them lies). Who better to come on the show and discuss these things that are “false” than Kellyanne Conway.
* click *

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:03:40am

re: #109 wheat-dogg

This seems like a calculated move by Trump & Co. to try to deflate any forthcoming charges by Mueller that the campaign obtained that Russian intel, rather than refusing it. Still, it’s a noticeable walk-back (to any with memories longer than 24 hours ago) from Trump’s insistence there was never a meeting, no one talked to the Russians, etc.

It suggests to me that Mueller is going to nail Stone next, and Roger is trying to head off disaster.

Yeah, it’ll be the FnF talking point and no one will point out that Caputo claims to have had “Greenberg” investigated but also claims to have forgotten all about it.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:04:21am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:10:40am

re: #111 Ace Rothstein

Meet the Chuck intro calls Trump out for things that are “false” (doesn’t call them lies). Who better to come on the show and discuss these things that are “false” than Kellyanne Conway.
* click *

There needs to be a talk show called “Meet Dr. Lizardo”.

My first question to Kellyanne and Trump’s toadies will always be, “Why are you such a goddamn liar?”

If I could get Trump himself on “Meet Dr. Lizardo”, I’d begin with, “President Trump, thanks for joining us today - it’s always an honor to have the President of the United States on our show. Now, what I’d like to know, and I’m sure our audience at home would too, is why do you lie all the time? Do you have some personality disorder that prevents you from telling the truth or do you just think it’s funny to lie about every little thing? And how do you expect anyone to take you seriously? The world is laughing at you, and you’ve made the United States of America into an object of international ridicule. What do you have to say, sir?”

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:13:17am
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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:14:01am
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Ace Rothstein  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:16:58am

re: #114 Dr Lizardo

You’re hired. When can you start?

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:22:21am
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danhenry1  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:23:14am

great Punch Brothers song. I have never heard of them, now on the hunt for more. Thanks Charles.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:26:23am

re: #117 Ace Rothstein

You’re hired. When can you start?

No network would ever hire me, LOL. I’m not gonna play the magical balance fairy game.

I’d love to get Stephen Miller in the hotseat, that’s for sure. I could spend a few minutes explaining to the viewing audience “Today, we’re joined by the modern-day incarnation of Adolf Eichmann” and give a brief sketch of Eichmann’s career for the benefit of my viewers.

Then I’d ask Mr. Miller to explain his obvious sympathies for the tenets of National Socialism in a clear and concise manner - and while he’s doing that, I’d be showing the audience graphic images of the Holocaust and its aftermath on a split screen.

The network bigwigs would probably have a collective stroke, LOL.

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:27:21am

re: #97 Barefoot Grin

Stone and Michael Caputo did not previously disclose the meeting to congressional investigators, but say their memories were ‘refreshed’ by text messages that Caputo was shown by Mueller’s team.

I literally had coffee coming out of my nose after reading that and absolutely bursting into laughter.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:28:37am

re: #121 MsJ

I literally had coffee coming out of my nose after reading that and absolutely bursting into laughter.

I suddenly had “if I could put Stone in a barrel…” to Jim Croce’s “Time in a Bottle” running through my head.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:29:08am

re: #121 MsJ

I literally had coffee coming out of my nose after reading that and absolutely bursting into laughter.

I’d imagine that Caputo’s memory was “refreshed” after he probably shit himself.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:39:05am

re: #118 jaunte

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These heartless pieces of shit.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:43:18am

re: #124 HappyWarrior

These heartless pieces of shit.

I am hoping that public outrage over tearing children from their parents’ arms will finally put a dent in this reprehensible Awe of Trump Cult in Congress and elsewhere.

Meanwhile I note that Trump is tweeting away about the Singapore meeting with Kim, the economy, the IG report, the WaPo maybe being shut down by a workers’ strike, and FAKE NEWS. Y’know, presidential stuff.

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:45:04am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:46:52am

I posted this on FB

Father’s Day 2018.
Got up. Made Tea.

Enjoying the view from my backyard (Jamaica Bay, Manhattan).

Listening to “Teach Your Children” by Crosby, Stills and Nash.

Counting my blessings.

Thinking about dad, but not in a sad way. Death comes to us all. We keep the memories.

In a little while I will hug my kids and eat donuts.

This day should be perfect. And yet.

What makes this day so gloomy is that my government is forcibly removing young children from their parents. Someone is setting in a detention center somewhere and THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THEIR CHILDREN ARE. This is torture. To twist in the knife, the same govt is paying private companies to warehouse these children and using the bible as justification. Fuck them all.

I put “Teach your children” on repeat and made a small donation to the ACLU of Texas. I pray that Father’s day 2019 will be better. Thanks for reading.

Teach your children well,
Their father’s hell did slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams
The one they picks, the one you’ll know by.
Don’t you ever ask them why, if they told you, you will cry,
So just look at them and sigh
And know they love you.
Graham Nash

Thanks for reading

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HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:47:59am

re: #120 Dr Lizardo

No network would ever hire me, LOL. I’m not gonna play the magical balance fairy game.

I’d love to get Stephen Miller in the hotseat, that’s for sure. I could spend a few minutes explaining to the viewing audience “Today, we’re joined by the modern-day incarnation of Adolf Eichmann” and give a brief sketch of Eichmann’s career for the benefit of my viewers.

Then I’d ask Mr. Miller to explain his obvious sympathies for the tenets of National Socialism in a clear and concise manner - and while he’s doing that, I’d be showing the audience graphic images of the Holocaust and its aftermath on a split screen.

The network bigwigs would probably have a collective stroke, LOL.

Miller has access to Trump in a way Eichmann never did to Hitler. I have a little in common in Miller in a couple of ways. Close to the same age and our mothers’ families aer from the same town in PA and my mother’s grandparents like his fled a tyrannical regime, his fled the pogroms in Tzarist Russia while mine fled persecution in the Austro-Hungarian. However, while Miller was trolling girls’ track races, I was participating in anti-war rallies and trying to make sense of why we were going to war with Iraq after 9/11 so quickly. One of us got a job in the WH and working for a Senator. i don’t know have to tell you which one did and didn’t. I’m not saying I deserve nor want a job in the WH or Senate but Miller was the protege of Richard Spencer in college and Miller presently advises the President on key issues. That’s scary shit. The same way that Buchanan advising Nixon and later Reagan was but Miller’s got more influence than Pat B ever did. Miller I think will never see any office but the behind the scene types like him are either the people that help make a political leader’s impact on society better or worse. Miller is definitely one of the latter. BTW thanks for the link about Corey Stewart earlier. I think Kaine will beat him either way but every last Virginian needs to reject Corey and vote for Tim to let Stewart and the Va GOP know that we as Virginians don’t stand for this. Sorry for rambling.

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Jay C  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:47:59am

re: #115 jaunte

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I find it nice to see my former Representative (Jerry Nadler) and my current one (Carolyn Maloney) finally doing something besides fund-raising (or the solicitation thereof - my mailbox gets inundated with Ms. Maloney’s promotions regularly every two years). I guess it’s a good thing that Congressional Democrats are taking the lead on trying to expose the Administration’s cruel policies - all six of the Reps trying to get into the Elizabeth facility are Dems from (almost-certainly) safe seats - this stuff definitely puts the GOP on the spot trying to defend the regime’s inhumane policies. Though I imagine Trump will soon be excreting some bilious tweet about Dems’ hypocrisy in protesting family separation/incarceration when it’s, after all, “their” policy….

I don’t know the details of the “immigration reform” bills(s) currently up before Congress, but if funding “The Wall” is the Admin’s (or the House Fuckhead Caucus’s) big insistence: is there a fixed dollar amount mandated, or can Congress just agree on “funding”, and then later appropriate a grand total of $100 a year or whatever….?

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:49:21am

More “back channels” for Jared

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:52:43am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:53:27am

re: #131 Ace-o-aces

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Talented musician but he’s gone completely nucking futs since hanging out with Alex Jones.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:53:41am

re: #130 Ace-o-aces

More “back channels” for Jared

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To the surprise of no one.

Anyone care to bet that Jared’s gonna be the designated fall guy for the Trump crime family?

Hell, Ivanka would throw Jared under the bus so fast he won’t even know what’s happening. She’s likely just as sociopathic as her dad or her brothers.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:55:02am

re: #131 Ace-o-aces

I do not want to drink Kool-aid at his hot tub or anywhere else near him or his house.

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:55:34am

re: #132 HappyWarrior

Talented musician but he’s gone completely nucking futs since hanging out with Alex Jones.

Corgan has been nucking futs longer than that. He’s always been looney.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:55:39am

re: #133 Dr Lizardo

To the surprise of no one.

Anyone care to bet that Jared’s gonna be the designated fall guy for the Trump crime family?

Hell, Ivanka would throw Jared under the bus so fast he won’t even know what’s happening. She’s likely just as sociopathic as her dad or her brothers.

The role of Carlo Rizzi will be played by Jared Kushner this evening.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:56:17am

re: #135 MsJ

Corgan has been nucking futs longer than that. He’s always been looney.

True but didn’t he really go of his rocker when he started hanging with the Pillsbury Dough Crisis Actor?

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:59:04am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2018 • 7:59:47am

re: #138 MsJ

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Is that another mispelling to conect with the comon man?

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:00:09am

Here we go again:
philly.com

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:04:16am

And now ABC has Steve Bannon on, for fuck’s sake.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:05:39am

re: #141 Ace Rothstein

And now ABC has Steve Bannon on, for fuck’s sake.

Bannon since I saw Miller likened to Eichmann strikes me as a Stresser or Alfred Rosenberg type.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:05:57am

I think someone is awfully damn close to suffering a ruptured aneurysm, and stroking out

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HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:07:18am

re: #143 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I think someone is awfully damn close to suffering a ruptured aneurysm, and stroking out

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They did look at HRC, you crooked piece of Russian garbage. You and Putin deserve to rot away together in cells and live in the knowledge that you’ll never be free men again for what you both have done to our world.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:10:32am

re: #143 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Yes. It is close; but close only counts in horseshoes.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:15:52am

re: #144 HappyWarrior

They did look at HRC, you crooked piece of Russian garbage. You and Putin deserve to rot away together in cells and live in the knowledge that you’ll never be free men again for what you both have done to our world.

The best thing that can happen to Trump, Putin, Bannon, Miller, etc., is for them to live long enough to see all their dreams and hopes collapse down around them. To see that their failure is complete.

Like Bane said in The Dark Knight Rises:

The Dark Knight Rises - When gotham is ashes.. then you have my permission to die - FULL SCENE HD

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ObserverArt  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:16:10am

re: #69 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Jeffrey, I don’t see any (?) robins in your Jeffrey’s Good Eats Fly In images.

Do you not get them in your area, or is it timing of the season?

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:16:23am

Please RT Roger’s tweet.

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:17:16am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:17:18am

re: #146 Dr Lizardo

The best thing that can happen to Trump, Putin, Bannon, Miller, etc., is for them to live long enough to see all their dreams and hopes collapse down around them. To see that their failure is complete.

Like Bane said in The Dark Knight Rises:

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Gets to what you’ve probably seen me say about Jesse Helms and how I wish he could have seen Obama elected President.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:19:21am

re: #149 MsJ

I like that one; Tweety Amin. I wish I could give you a hundred updings for that one.

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:20:08am

re: #151 PhillyPretzel

I like that one; Tweety Amin. I wish I could give you a hundred updings for that one.

Joe Bacon came up with that. I just loved it!

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:22:51am

re: #152 MsJ

Me too. Thanks to Joe for a very fitting remark. :)

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makeitstop  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:23:52am

re: #135 MsJ

Corgan has been nucking futs longer than that. He’s always been looney.

I’ve heard stories from a producer in NYC about how the tracks for ‘Gish’ were laid down by musicians other than the Pumpkins - i.e., musicians that weren’t hammered/baked/downed out of their heads.

Corgan had those songs, and a band (including himself) who were utterly incapable of playing them.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:24:12am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:25:59am

re: #131 Ace-o-aces

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Poor Billy.

Even the shape shifter didn’t want to have sex with him.

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CarolJ  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:26:16am

2 million for dirt on Hillary, and they got nothing. If they had even so much as a scurrilous rumor, it would have been out there. Hill’s a choir girl and has been all her life. Which is why Trump keeps yelling “lock her up” all the time. He has gotten no real satisfaction here.

About the witchcraft thing: as a member of the Facebook group, what has been happening is that witches have sent marked dollar bills to the NRA calling it “blood money”. The red $5 bills are red. Mixed message unless the bills are Monopoly money. Real ones are just added to the petty cash by someone who isn’t scared.

Red or no, it is blood money. I remember growing up in a world where there were no school shootings, largely because most people who had guns had revolvers or 6-shooters. The cops weren’t outgunned and everybody knew it. But daddy’s sixgun that he kept from the War was hardly profitable for the gun industry. But back then the NRA was a shooting society concerned with safety, so it didn’t matter. Plus there was plenty of profit in the Vietnam and other wars.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:29:34am

re: #154 makeitstop

I’ve heard stories from a producer in NYC about how the tracks for ‘Gish’ were laid down by musicians other than the Pumpkins - i.e., musicians that weren’t hammered/baked/downed out of their heads.

Corgan had those songs, and a band (including himself) who were utterly incapable of playing them.

At the opposite end of that, Tobias Forge of Ghost is said to have played the majority of the instruments on the band’s earlier studio albums, usually employing a session drummer for recording. He certainly does all the backing vocals - if you have a sharp ear, it’s noticeable. I’ve seen one video from their latest tour, ‘Rats on the Road’, and it looks to me like one of the touring guitarists might be James Hetfield of Metallica. It’s known that Dave Grohl toured with Ghost as one of the Nameless Ghouls.

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Dizzy  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:31:42am

Yes! Nadler got in. I am dreading his report, but it has to be publicized.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:31:49am

And to celebrate the day, the right is overturning everything she stands for.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:32:26am
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ObserverArt  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:33:08am

re: #119 danhenry1

great Punch Brothers song. I have never heard of them, now on the hunt for more. Thanks Charles.

Charles and other LGF members have been following the Punch Brothers for quite a few years now. They have been the featured music topic/article many times.

You’ll find they are able to play many styles of music with their traditional bluegrass line up.

Look for tunes under Chris Thile too, the band leader. He has a lot of stuff with others and alone. He even does classic pieces with his mandolin.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:33:52am

Oh another mass shooting?

Has Bimborella Dana chimed in yet?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:35:04am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:35:20am

re: #163 Joe Bacon 🌹

Oh another mass shooting?

Has Bimborella Dana chimed in yet?

It would only be to criticize the guy’s marksmanship. One killed, 20 injured? Pffffht!!

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:35:56am

Mexico 1-0.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:36:05am
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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:36:32am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:36:32am

Hello Lizard nation. Yesterday we drove Carpinteria for a bite, then blew past Santa Barbara to go to Gaviota beach. Also walked up to The Gate that delineates public from movie mogul and musician dominated private land, where they also assert ownership of the beach. Illegal as hell btw. Boy was that guy looking to call the sheriff when I got within 20 yards of the gate.

The coastal commission and celebrity property owners have been fighting in court. It seems the state commission has the less able lawyers. One can now approach the “private beaches” by kayak only. No land access. Now this seems like a sweet compromise, who doesn’t like a kayak? Well maybe all of us who don’t do that, and maybe don’t want to risk 40mph offshore winds, swells, fog and getting blown all the way to the channel islands or worse. A navy squadron if ships went aground up here right after WW1.

Is it ironic James Cameron who made a fortune off the Titanic story is one of the obstreperous rich guys that own that coastal land? I think so. Details.

Here is a Pathe clip of the wrecked ships in the same area where the coastal commission thinks Kayak renters can go and navigate the Pacific in hazardous waters.

Navy Disaster - Ship Wreck (1914-1918)

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ObserverArt  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:36:36am

re: #132 HappyWarrior

Talented musician but he’s gone completely nucking futs since hanging out with Alex Jones.

I think Billy was already just more than a little nuts before Alex Jones.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:36:46am
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Eventual Carrion  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:37:00am

re: #161 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Ok, that cracks me up.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:38:56am

re: #148 MsJ

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:39:32am

re: #169 Unshaken Defiance

Several of my RAZZIE pals have dealt with Cameron. He is another one of those Peter Thiel type libertarians who believes that rich people can do whatever their teeny tiny little greedy ass hearts deisre…

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:39:36am

re: #148 MsJ

Please RT Roger’s tweet.

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Done!

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ObserverArt  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:40:47am

re: #154 makeitstop

I’ve heard stories from a producer in NYC about how the tracks for ‘Gish’ were laid down by musicians other than the Pumpkins - i.e., musicians that weren’t hammered/baked/downed out of their heads.

Corgan had those songs, and a band (including himself) who were utterly incapable of playing them.

Butch Vig produced it, so it wouldn’t surprise me if he and his own cadre of fine musicians played it all.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:41:06am

re: #28 teleskiguy

Follow him around where? He’ll be just fine. There are scores of Rightwing media outlets, including Fox News, which will take him in as a commentator.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:41:31am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:41:44am

Michael chimes in!

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:43:11am

re: #173 Hecuba’s daughter

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:44:13am

re: #174 Joe Bacon 🌹

Several of my RAZZIE pals have dealt with Cameron. He is another one of those Peter Thiel type libertarians who believes that rich people can do whatever their teeny tiny little greedy ass hearts deisre…

Tourists will die if this agreement holds, to keep the dirty public from ruining the beach simply by being there. These guys want private beaches carved out from legit public access, they can go offshore and buy a freaking island. Or make one like the Chinese do out around the Spratlys.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:44:22am

re: #178 jaunte

If it’s Sunday, It’s MEET THE PRESSTITUTE!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:44:24am

re: #179 Joe Bacon 🌹

Michael chimes in!

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Michael seems to be wrong so far. The only conservative women I see objecting to this policy are those who were already anti-Trump. Let’s see if any Trump fans actually change their views as a result of this Nazi policy.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:44:32am

re: #171 jaunte

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Good to see that. This is a bridge too far and not reflective of who most of us are as Americans. Trump and Republicans need to own their heinous, anti-family, immoral policy of separating migrating children from parents.

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:45:56am

re: #183 Hecuba’s daughter

Michael seems to be wrong so far. The only conservative women I see objecting to this policy are those who were already anti-Trump. Let’s see if any Trump fans actually change their views as a result of this Nazi policy.

I’d expect we could count them on a thumb. Maybe two. That’s about it.

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:46:19am
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:46:35am

re: #179 Joe Bacon 🌹

This is why I love Avenatti. He is doing what every Democratic politician should be doing: speaking out loudly and clearly and fearlessly.

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BigPapa  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:47:35am
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:48:30am

re: #138 MsJ

White Supremacists don’t spell so good. /s

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:48:51am
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:50:31am

re: #190 Joe Bacon 🌹

I rather have a First Lady who tells me to eat my vegetables than the family we now have occupying the White House.

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BigPapa  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:52:01am

About the concentration camps: this was a Trump admin order, designed to be horrible punishment as a deterrent. The right is blaming it on the Democrats while also saying it’s no big deal while also saying ‘yeah, well, you shouldn’t break the law.’ They’re an illogical mess and horrible people. The need to win through ideology is stronger than their own morality and empathy. If you’re still supporting Trump you’re a sociopath.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:53:11am
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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:53:42am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:54:46am

re: #184 Patricia Kayden

Good to see that. This is a bridge too far and not reflective of who most of us are as Americans. Trump and Republicans need to own their heinous, anti-family, immoral policy of separating migrating children from parents.

It’s a causeway too far. Starting to think exposing the location of each and every ICE holding facility is an act of moral outrage. Not illegal. That and hounding travel terminals that feature agents and racists harassing travelers like demanding citizenship status. Step up with the truth about when and where one can refuse to answer. Salt these places with Hispanic and mid eastern looking citizens that have all their proof of citizenship in pocket and with a lawyer on the outside.

Look at this. Bus Driver Tells Passengers Only U.S. Citizens Can Ride As Border Patrol Agent Looks On
huffingtonpost.com

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 17, 2018 • 8:58:57am

So I’m seeing that Mitch the Turtle is getting antsy about the Mueller investigation.

nymag.com

Now, isn’t it an uncanny coincidence how all these Republicans, who mere weeks ago were saying we should let Mueller’s investigation run its course, are now suddenly saying “shut it down” after Cohen is rumored to be talking about flipping and Manafort goes off to the slammer.

Cohen is most likely the key to this entire thing. He must know of more crimes than we can imagine at this point, and the Republicans certainly know what he knows, and they are now frantically trying to silence him by attempting to disrupt and kill an ongoing criminal investigation that has been, thus far, quite successful.

The very fact that Cohen was - or perhaps still is - the RNC’s Deputy Finance Chair tells you everything you need to know. If he flips, what’s he gonna tell Mueller? I think the GOP is terrified that Cohen might know enough, owing to his position in party officialdom, to bring it all crashing down.

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ObserverArt  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:00:31am

I suffered through Meet With Chuckles because I wanted to see if this past week is making any dents. There were a few.

One at the end of the show by Al Cardenas was pretty decent. He said the whole immigration thing is 100% Trump’s doing and explained why. It was in direct opposition to The Mouth Known as Kellyanne. He used a great word too, which he may have chosen for a reason. He said Trump’s action were deplorable.

By far though, the most interesting to me was Helene Cooper saying the editor of the NY Times’ take on using the word lie/liar/lying is tough for them because if you use it all the time then it becomes meaningless. Which is in a way a Trump tactic. He clouds everything in misdirection and lies.

So, I guess the Times tries to be judicious of its use. *cough*

Anyway, I see it as use it as often as possible because Trump is often lying…like when he opens his mouth.

And if you are worried about it losing its impact, then do your jobs as writers and explain how dangerous it is that it can get to the point of losing impact…but needs to be driven home.

Get into explaining how the lies do real damage, Explain why the lie is a lie. Use it to delve into Trump’s character issues. Use it to expose what he and they are doing under the cover of the lies and why lying is so much a tool for The Tool.

Get into the truth. The truth is this lying orange bag of fat and bones is a danger to America because of his lying. And his backers that believe him are as much a danger.

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:01:58am

He and his wife gotta be MINO (married in name only).

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:05:15am

re: #191 PhillyPretzel

I’d rather have a President that eats cheeseburgers with mustard and wears tan suits.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:06:52am

re: #198 JordanRules

These are obviously very serious allegations, and they should be referred to the United States Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York.

No.

This needs to be NY state investigation; Trump can’t pardon state crimes, only federal crimes.

Don’t make this a Federal case - let the state of NY deal with it.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:08:15am

re: #200 Dr Lizardo

This is where we are as a country. We have to figure out where to prosecute crimes so the President of the United States can’t pardon himself and/or others.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:09:37am

re: #201 Ace Rothstein

There is a missing component. Mass protests.

Just gonna leave this lil trinket right here.
ice.gov

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:09:57am

re: #200 Dr Lizardo

No.

This needs to be NY state investigation; Trump can’t pardon state crimes, only federal crimes.

Don’t make this a Federal case - let the state of NY deal with it.

He’s talking about the election stuff, the federal crimes. NY is taking care of all of their stuff already.

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:10:25am

re: #198 JordanRules

He and his wife gotta be MINO (married in name only).

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Which I do not get. At all.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:11:10am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:12:13am

re: #203 JordanRules

He’s talking about the election stuff, the federal crimes. NY is taking care of all of their stuff already.

Fair enough - I didn’t catch that. I thought he was referring to the NY state investigation of the Trump Foundation.

I’m not a lawyer, nor am I familiar with NY state law. Can the state of New York prosecute someone for tax evasion?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:12:20am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:13:02am

re: #198 JordanRules

He and his wife gotta be MINO (married in name only).

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Criswell Bacon predicts that Kellyanne will soon be doing the Tammy Wynette thing!

Tammy Wynette - “D-I-V-O-R-C-E”

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:13:58am

Complicit media.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:14:33am

re: #26 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The NRA’s social media manager is up late on a Saturday night, apparently on a Meth binge, again

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I’m convinced their twitter is being run by Russian disinfo. The melodrama, the absurdity, the grammar, and the and obsession with division at any cost, absolutely stinks of “consultants” from addresses with “Oblast” on the end.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:16:36am

re: #209 JordanRules

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Complicit media.

Did we expect anything else from the same Jonathan Karl who endlessly lied any lie about Obama?

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:18:01am

re: #209 JordanRules

I saw about two minutes of that garbage and switched that goddamned show off forever. I will not waste my time with these bullshit Sunday shows ever again.

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BeachDem  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:19:02am

re: #197 ObserverArt

George Lakoff, as always, has the best advice for the media:

…stop letting Trump control the news cycle. Newsgathering should be a serious affair controlled by editors whose power rivals any politician’s. Stop chasing his tweets and elevating every sideshow. Start every story with truth and the context of what’s really important to citizens in a democracy. More BBC, less TMZ.

…don’t spread lies. Don’t privilege Trump’s lies by putting their specific language in the headlines, the leads or the hashtags. Don’t repeat the lies assuming people will automatically know they’re lies. People need to know the president is lying, but be careful about repeating the lies because “a lie repeated often enough becomes the truth”. Repetition of lies spreads them.

theguardian.com

Somebody posted this article the other day, but it bears repeating.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:19:23am
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plansbandc  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:20:24am

re: #142 HappyWarrior

Dude was watching it when I came in from my walk. I’m so pissed. Asked him why the fuck he would ever watch that lying Nazi. He gets his news from the lying bullshit propaganda network news. I hate it.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:22:41am
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stpaulbear  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:23:20am

Via Balloon Juice. I just donated $50.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:24:03am

re: #214 Ace Rothstein

You would think that Katy Tur of all people would tear Tweety Amin to pieces by calling him liar every chance she could after what His Ass Holeyness did to her during the campaign.

But if she did that she knows NBC would fire her on the spot.

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BigPapa  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:24:10am

Next time some Trumper says ‘no evidence of collusion’ state the fact that 11 Trump campaign or transition officials have admitted contact with a Russian during the campaign or transition.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:24:13am

re: #180 MsJ

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:24:17am

Watching the match with his best Jersey on!

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:25:00am

re: #209 JordanRules

Complicit media.

Time to push back harder.

The more Trump and ICE cross red lines, the more motivated I am to gather good content and start publishing them edited for effect. Of course now practically everyone can and does video.
But we run with what we have not what we wish for right? I don’t have serious money, or high political connections. But cameras, edit gear, sound guy (that’s a new addition) and the ability to rent any missing bits are in place.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:25:04am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:27:12am

Karma is going to bite Sleazy Steven Miller and his fascist parents in the ass.

I hope Mike nails a civil suit on them and drains every last penny out of their posession.

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BeachDem  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:28:08am

re: #214 Ace Rothstein

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Well, she did on Friday:

“In an unprecedented appearance on the White House lawn, the president spoke to reporters and Fox News for 58 minutes,” she reported. “In that time he lied or misled the American public at least 19 times.”

The anchor then proceeded to fact-check Trump…”So our big question is — why are Republican leaders okay with the President of the United States lying?”

rawstory.com

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:28:13am

re: #223 jaunte

This is horrific. Since DT and his cronies have ordered this, the blood of these children and their parents is on his hands and that of his cronies.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:28:32am

WINNING!!!

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ObserverArt  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:28:50am

Here is the MTP panel discussing lies of Trump. There is some frustrating stuff said and some good because they are calling Trump a liar.

Al Camperas, as the ol’ Republican strategist gets to the point. He made others as I mentioned above

Overall though…at least they are discussing it. I think it is worth a view as it is so topical around here. Here we see them talk about lying from their side of the media.

Iframe

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:30:28am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:31:19am

re: #228 ObserverArt

Here is the MTP panel discussing lies of Trump. There is some frustrating stuff said and some good because they are calling Trump a liar.

Al Camperas, as the ol’ Republican strategist gets to the point. He made others as I mentioned above

Overall though…at least they are discussing it. I think it is worth a view as it is so topical around here. Here we see them talk about lying from their side of the media.

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“Taxonomist of falsehoods” is a real keeper.

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allegro  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:32:30am

Big milestone today… my youngest kids celebrate their first birthday!

Princess Onyx and Little Lord Storm at about 10 days

Look at them now!

Storm and Onyx all growed up

Happy Birthday, my loves!

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:32:42am

re: #230 Unshaken Defiance

“Taxonomist of falsehoods” is a real keeper.

Unreasonably generous to a pathological liar to pretend he’s just fibbing sometimes.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:36:25am

re: #204 MsJ

Which I do not get. At all.

James Carvill and Mary Matalin.

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:37:55am

re: #231 allegro

Big milestone today… my youngest kids celebrate their first birthday!

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Happy Birthday, my loves!

Oh my goodness! It’s been a year!
What a journey. Your battles to outsmart them and kitty proof things along the way tickled me so much.
They look amazing!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:38:19am

On this Father’s day thinking of my Dad and how his blood would be boiling at what the RepubliKKKlans are doing. He’d be so mad at Trump he would go nuclear. Oh I remember how he ranted against Dumbya and he told my brainwashed sisters to STFU when they brought up their hatred of the Clintons.

Mom would have even been angrier. I told her how proud of her I was when she told Rick Santorum to go fuck himself and she slammed the door in his face when he ran for Senator.

BTW—Dad was the one who coined “RepubliKKKlan” years ago.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:38:48am
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ObserverArt  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:39:31am

re: #225 BeachDem

Well, she did on Friday:

“In an unprecedented appearance on the White House lawn, the president spoke to reporters and Fox News for 58 minutes,” she reported. “In that time he lied or misled the American public at least 19 times.”

The anchor then proceeded to fact-check Trump…”So our big question is — why are Republican leaders okay with the President of the United States lying?”

rawstory.com

I can certainly understand everyones frustration with much of the media.

But, it is all we have.

If we keep pushing, as Helene Cooper did admit the NY Times is getting a lot of kickback in their letters asking why don’t you call a lie a lie, then maybe we get what we want.

If we don’t watch, we miss things like Katy calling him a liar. And then we think Katy never called him a liar. That may not help either. Isn’t it best to encourage them?

I do believe last week was too much even for the press. I heard the words lie/lying/liar to explain Trump’s BS more then ever. Especially after his gish-lie-gallop on Friday.

The press can get in a gang-up mode and I hope this is the gang-up on Trump and call him a liar mode.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:39:57am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:41:01am

Of course, Trumporrhoids shrieking about Elian Gonzales, forget that he was being returned TO HIS OWN FATHER.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:42:05am

re: #239 The Vicious Babushka

I saw one yesterday so concerned about him she called him Elias.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:42:32am
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ObserverArt  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:42:32am

re: #231 allegro

Big milestone today… my youngest kids celebrate their first birthday!

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Happy Birthday, my loves!

Lord Storm looks absolutely dignified in that pose.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:43:08am

re: #204 MsJ

Which I do not get. At all.

Something, something, power, money and marriage of convenience.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:43:10am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:46:17am

re: #232 jaunte

Unreasonably generous to a pathological liar to pretend he’s just fibbing sometimes.

Doocy: How are you going to celebrate Father’s Day?

Trump: “Work. I’m going to work.”

Let’s see if Trump hits the golf course on Sunday.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:46:52am

Oh hey Happy Fathers day all you Dads!
Later gonna go out and take Dad for a ride today, a favorite activity. 89 year old Dad. Enterprise cars had a deal for the weekend, and a lucky break put a nicer car in hand. So a treat for both of us together.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:49:06am

re: #241 Joe Bacon 🌹

Any Republican with their head screwed on correctly would look at how Pete Wilson destroyed the California GOP and recoil in horror

There are no Republicans who learned the lesson from the California debacle. They’re now going to kill the GOP nationwide.

Yep, they’ve totally forgotten the lesson of Pete Wilson. The California GOP still hasn’t recovered from that two decades old debacle; the only GOP governor since then was Schwarzenegger, and that was something of an anomaly to be honest.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:49:19am

re: #241 Joe Bacon 🌹

They figure they can fix that by changing all the rules and not allowing the wrong people to vote.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:49:42am

re: #244 jaunte

Trump might not have come up with it but he also has the fucking power to STOP it at anytime and…he’s not.

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makeitstop  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:49:50am

re: #214 Ace Rothstein

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Katy did a good job of holding a Trump-bot’s feet to the fire over Trump’s lies the other day.

And yes, she actually used the word ‘lies’ multiple times. Tur is one of the good ones.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:50:03am
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makeitstop  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:52:05am

re: #225 BeachDem

Well, she did on Friday:

“In an unprecedented appearance on the White House lawn, the president spoke to reporters and Fox News for 58 minutes,” she reported. “In that time he lied or misled the American public at least 19 times.”

The anchor then proceeded to fact-check Trump…”So our big question is — why are Republican leaders okay with the President of the United States lying?”

rawstory.com

Here’s video. Tur is being unfairly dragged here this morning.

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:52:39am

re: #245 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I know one thing he won’t be doing… visiting our troops. He never visits them. POS CiC!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:54:17am

OT:

Father’s Day is tough when you’re struggling with infertility. My wife is now 35 and I’m starting to wonder if I’ll ever be a dad.

We’ve looked into adoption but we can’t afford that right now. It’s a shame there are so many barriers. I’d take in one of those ICE kids in a split.

I’ll be back in a bit. I need to find something to occupy myself.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:54:26am
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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:56:10am
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allegro  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:58:18am

re: #234 JordanRules

Oh my goodness! It’s been a year!
What a journey. Your battles to outsmart them and kitty proof things along the way tickled me so much.
They look amazing!

That battle is ongoing. The little shits darlings prove me inept daily. Between Onyx’s cleverness and Storm’s size and strength there is nothing safe from them. They shredded 3 rolls of toilet paper last night that Storm got out of the closet.

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 9:58:46am

re: #252 makeitstop

Here’s video. Tur is being unfairly dragged here this morning.

Like a lot of folks this week it seems, she finally got here. These folks and their learning curves tho…ugghh. He put her in a pen at his Nuremberg rallies and I’m just having a hard time figuring out why it’s taking this long for them to show moments of what is needed. And as of right now they are moments. Yes, we can surely recognize and praise the moments if not the press as a movement quite yet. And we should share these moments.

She’s not anywhere near the worst, but she did get a nice book off too so shoutout to Michelle Wolf.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:01:48am

re: #256 jaunte

what matters most is that pro-kids in cages and anti-kids in cages voters can get together and have a civil discussion about it

I got your “civil discussion” for ya right here, bub.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:03:48am
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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:04:19am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:05:49am

re: #259 Dr Lizardo

I got your “civil discussion” for ya right here, bub.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:06:41am
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ObserverArt  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:07:41am

re: #258 JordanRules

Like a lot of folks this week it seems, she finally got here. These folks and their learning curves tho…ugghh. He put her in a pen at his Nuremberg rallies and I’m just having a hard time figuring out why it’s taking this long for them to show moments of what is needed. And as of right now they are moments. Yes, we can surely recognize and praise the moments if not the press as a movement quite yet. And we should share these moments.

She’s not anywhere near the worst, but she did get a nice book off too so shoutout to Michelle Wolf.

I’m a bit willing to forget their past if they start to learn from it.

I just hope “Trump lies” becomes the media bandwagon for a good long while. All jump on and ride it hard.

Then maybe with that, along with a strong November, we can get back on the road to having a country with a decent future.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:08:22am

re: #261 JordanRules

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As I pointed out before, KKKolins is nothing more than a rubber stamp for McKKKonell

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Stanley Sea  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:10:02am
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:20:21am

re: #261 JordanRules

Good to know that she’s in the tank for Trump but I guess her voting record would have told us that.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:23:01am

re: #261 JordanRules

Do the Sunday shows ever have anybody but Republicans on?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:24:37am

re: #268 Winston_Smith

Do the Sunday shows ever have anybody but Republicans on?

When the Democrats are in the White House the Sunday Gasbag shows only have Republicans on to be “fair and balanced”

When Republicans are in the White House, those same Sunday Gasbag shows have Republicans and Bernie Sanders on the be “fair and balanced”.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:25:09am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This should be priority number one in Congress until the administration changes this inhumane policy.

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:27:31am

re: #268 Winston_Smith

Do the Sunday shows ever have anybody but Republicans on?

It’s so rare it might as well be a unicorn.

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ObserverArt  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:28:55am

re: #268 Winston_Smith

Do the Sunday shows ever have anybody but Republicans on?

Adam Schiff was on Meet The Press. He is probably the most go-to Democrat for NBC.

MSNBC uses him and some of the east coast Reps and a few Senators.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:32:22am

re: #270 Patricia Kayden

This should be priority number one in Congress until the administration changes this inhumane policy.

One thing, It sure does point out that we are not a christian nation after all.

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stpaulbear  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:33:04am

re: #272 ObserverArt

Adam Schiff was on Meet The Press. He is probably the most go-to Democrat for NBC.

MSNBC uses him and some of the east coast Reps and a few Senators.

Amy Klobuchar tries to make her self available for news shows, but it seems like MSNBC is the only station that takes advantage of it.

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:34:49am

Thinking about the problems Democrats are having getting into those detention facilities. After this, I think a law should be passed requiring that Congress can get access to any federal facility, and that they can require local law enforcement to help them.

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:35:29am

Welp…

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:37:21am

re: #273 Eventual Carrion

Sessions quoted a text which requires us to obey the government because God put the government in place. Ironically, Sessions and his ilk forgot about that text all through the Obama years.

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:39:27am
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nines09  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:43:39am

Happy Fathers Day Mitch!

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:44:57am
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Teukka  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:45:38am

re: #223 jaunte

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:46:51am

re: #278 JordanRules

There were people who enjoyed the images of blacks being attacked by dogs.

We’re not going to reach these people, but there are people who will be disturbed by the images. I have been getting through to someone on Facebook. Yep, Facebook.

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Teukka  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:47:28am

re: #262 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Needs clarifying arrow towards the Nazi.
*whistles innocently*

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:50:50am
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Danack  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:53:27am

Finally managed to upload a video I took a couple of weeks ago, (I hate all Google made user interfaces), and I am really deeply impressed by the quality of the audio pickup on my iPhone.

Bristol lunchtime jazz

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:54:02am

fuck off, moron

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:54:03am

re: #285 Danack

What kind of iphone was this?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:56:13am

re: #286 Backwoods_Sleuth

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fuck off, moron

To be fair, Trump probably doesn’t know this was posted. It’s just a low level PR lackey doing his or her job.

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Danack  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:57:13am

re: #287 Eclectic Cyborg

iPhone 6s.

I used to have just an iPhone 6, but it developed a problem with the screen. I went to have it repaired, but Apple didn’t have a replacement screen available, so for the same cost as a screen replacement, they gave me a refurbished 6s.

Which is nice.

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 10:59:41am

re: #288 Eclectic Cyborg

To be fair, Trump probably doesn’t know this was posted. It’s just a low level PR lackey doing his or her job.

Any vehicle is a good one for telling him and his regime to fuck off.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:00:12am

re: #290 JordanRules

Any vehicle is a good one for telling him and his regime to fuck off.

Touche.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:00:25am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:01:00am

re: #288 Eclectic Cyborg

To be fair, Trump probably doesn’t know this was posted. It’s just a low level PR lackey doing his or her job.

Nope…I’m done with being fair about anything to do with him or his administration.

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Teukka  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:03:36am

With more and more coming out regarding the Childrens facilities, why am I more and more reminded of the “showcamp” KZ Theresienstadt as well as the Litzmannstadt Kinder-KZ? Anyone know if the ICRC has been denied access to the facilities?

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:05:11am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:05:18am

re: #276 JordanRules

Welp…

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Just like the farmers in Alabama and Georgia winding up with rotted crops in the fields.

But those Fox News viewers will be overjoyed when they see avocado toast disappearing from restaurant menus…

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Dave In Austin  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:05:19am

re: #286 Backwoods_Sleuth

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fuck off, moron

GMorning People! (Lordy I love/hate working nites..)

Yup, That’s the first thing that came to mind.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:05:44am

re: #294 Teukka

There might have been but I do not recall the exact circumstances.

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ObserverArt  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:05:47am

re: #285 Danack

Finally managed to upload a video I took a couple of weeks ago, (I hate all Google made user interfaces), and I am really deeply impressed by the quality of the audio pickup on my iPhone.

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Video

Nice. Phone did a great job. I bet it was a great area for the sound and you got into a sweet spot.

Fine band too. Good to see them playing big band style jazz.

There was a guy here in Columbus that had a little recording label and he many times worked with nothing more than a nice hi-quality Yamaha stereo cassette deck.

He would get a band going in their native habitat, their practice studio…and have them play some of their stuff. He would walk around the room with his two mics listening through headphones for the best sound for each mic and for the room.

He made some nice low-fi recordings and got some bands some decent starts.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:06:18am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:07:30am
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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:09:10am

*wretch!*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:13:42am

re: #302 JordanRules

*wretch!*

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she can just fuck off, too

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Winston_Smith  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:14:07am

re: #302 JordanRules

“Office of”. Melon is in New York living it up.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:15:25am
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Teukka  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:22:14am

re: #298 PhillyPretzel

There might have been but I do not recall the exact circumstances.

If they’ve denied the Red Cross, it’s bad enough regardless of circumstances.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:23:28am
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:23:47am

re: #306 Teukka

True.

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CarolJ  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:24:57am

We are getting to them. They were unprepared for the sheer level of outrage they are getting on child separations.

I think this is the California tipping point for the national GOP. A lot of people are outraged and heartsick over the kids, and that’s not geographically concentrated either.

As for immigration-fuck the GOP. They want open borders, give them open borders like 1890. Let em in for a fee and sort them out later. Give everybody pending a green card, the rest amnesty, and blow up the old system. Amnesty for everyone not a felon immigrant 1/2021 or 1/2025.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:26:08am

re: #302 JordanRules

Chain migrant.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:26:28am
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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:27:47am

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That reminds me so much of an RFK photo.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:28:10am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:30:33am

I am guessing all the reps going to the detention centers are Democrats?

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:36:03am

re: #314 Eclectic Cyborg

Probably. Republicans either openly support DT or are silent. Either way it is very bad.

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plansbandc  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:37:36am

re: #314 Eclectic Cyborg

Was there ever any doubt?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:38:46am

re: #22 Cheechako

This case could bring up some interesting legal questions. Does the State have to prove heaven doesn’t exist to prove fraud? If the purchaser believes in heaven and wants to buy a reserved, guaranteed place at the front of the line, has he been scammed?

I think a good defense attorney could have some fun with this case.

If I was the prosecution, I would focus on the fraud of lying about the tickets being solid gold.

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MsJ  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:39:31am

re: #303 Backwoods_Sleuth

she can just fuck off, too

Twice. With a fucking rusty chain saw.

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:39:51am
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:41:08am

re: #195 Unshaken Defiance

Wow. Greyhound needs to train their drivers about telling lies to passengers. That’s pretty astonishing.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:41:23am

Facebook Post

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:46:43am
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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:51:15am
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Jay C  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:53:27am

re: #314 Eclectic Cyborg

I am guessing all the reps going to the detention centers are Democrats?

Of course.
Though, if any GOPers did deign to visit these concentration camps detention facilities, who knows what crap they would spout?
Probably the same lies and nonsense they’ve been yammering on about on TV.

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electrotek  Jun 17, 2018 • 11:56:29am

Hypocrisy from a Middle Eastern Christian immigrant:

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:00:01pm

re: #325 electrotek

Hypocrisy from a Middle Eastern Christian immigrant:

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Reported that creature.

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retired cynic  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:02:55pm

re: #325 electrotek

Hypocrisy from a Middle Eastern Christian immigrant:

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Good grief. They obviously never saw a mirror.

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Interesting Times  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:03:32pm

Facebook Post

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Kragar  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:03:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:04:12pm
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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:04:19pm
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ObserverArt  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:05:44pm

re: #312 JordanRules

That reminds me so much of an RFK photo.

Exactly what I though on first glance.

Good to see he is doing this today. The Republicans cannot come out and stop the Dems using this since any cooperation with a Dem or perceived slight of Trump costs them.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:07:31pm

re: #331 JordanRules

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:08:50pm

they can all fuck off…

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:10:30pm

This thread is a lot to take in and it’s just an exerpt from a book preview. Bookmarked the LA Times preview piece to read later, but I’m already broken down.

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Kragar  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:13:06pm

re: #334 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:13:29pm
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Belafon  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:13:59pm

re: #334 Backwoods_Sleuth

they can all fuck off…

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:18:19pm

re: #206 Dr Lizardo

Fair enough - I didn’t catch that. I thought he was referring to the NY state investigation of the Trump Foundation.

I’m not a lawyer, nor am I familiar with NY state law. Can the state of New York prosecute someone for tax evasion?

Yes, for evading NY taxes.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:21:27pm

re: #336 Kragar

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Is Bannon suntanning himself and frosting his hair to look more like Trump?

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Kragar  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:23:20pm

re: #340 The Vicious Babushka

Is Bannon suntanning himself and frosting his hair to look more like Trump?

He’s ingested enough of Trump’s DNA that genetic parity is taking hold.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:23:32pm

re: #340 The Vicious Babushka

Yes. He is hoping to get back in DT’s good graces.

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:25:07pm

The Rockwall Democratic party managed to get our red city to proclaim June 20th as a day to celebrate our immigration heritage.

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BeachDem  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:40:35pm

re: #302 JordanRules

*wretch!*

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And interesting that Phil Rucker WaPo and CNN use the exact same bogus wording to describe Melon’s bullshit statement:

In a rare statement on a policy issue…

In a rare policy statement.

And, of course, it was not a policy statement—just a bothsiderism bullshit comment by Melon’s spokesperson.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:41:40pm

re: #344 BeachDem

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CarolJ  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:42:53pm

re: #342 PhillyPretzel I think he’s trying to set himself up as a post-Trump political figure. I don’t think he would ever run, but power behind the throne would suit him well. He’d never clean up enough to sit on it, and clearly he doesn’t want to, but if he has influence and money, that’s enough.
As for the Assyrians, remember to those white Christians, you are just another sand n-word to them.Not only that, you aren’t even Christian, so even less sympathy.

If other brown people aren’t treated fairly, then you won’t either. Those other groups are fighting for you so you can live here and not be segregated into ghettos or suffer the stings and arrows of Jim Crow.

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:44:10pm

Many of whom have been exposed for sexual harassment or worse. Hmph.
*Sips tea*

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:44:36pm

re: #344 BeachDem

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:47:25pm

re: #348 goddamnedfrank

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I’m seeing a few folks acting like she condemned him. WTF?!?!
And she didn’t write or dictate a damn thing, let’s be honest.

Her abuser has folks out here running with the talking point that he hates this policy but can’t do shit. This fits in perfectly with it.

Shoutout to Scavino!

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:51:15pm

re: #348 goddamnedfrank

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Melania is expressing Trump policy, which is that the Democrats are to blame unless they vote to fund the Wall.

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:52:47pm

Melon probably has no idea what’s going on.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:55:50pm

re: #351 JordanRules

Melon probably has no idea what’s going on.

Mother Melonia DOES know precisely what’s going on. Why right now she told Donny to play solitaire!

The Manchurian Candidate

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BeachDem  Jun 17, 2018 • 12:58:46pm

re: #348 goddamnedfrank

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Good comeback, and echoes what most were saying to Rucker in that thread.

Then there’s Margaret Sullivan’s weak response to George Lakoff and Jay Rosen’s call for the media to stop promoting the asshole’s tweets as news.

Are these radical notions likely to take hold?

Ah yes, the idea of calling a lie a lie is so RADICAL.

Probably not, since traditions of newsgathering and presentation run deep. Most journalists — among them the very best — believe that if they keep presenting the facts and countering the spin that that will be enough.

How’s that workin’ out for ya, Margaret?

And then the real story comes out:

And there’s little chance that news organizations will see the White House beat as anything other than a prestige assignment, a perch earned by the finest in the business.

And the unicorn dreams:
Good journalism, goes this line of thinking, will prevail over lies and propaganda. All we have to do is do our jobs, mostly in the same way as always. I fervently hope that’s correct, and that we still have a functioning democracy and a free press to show for this faith in the tried and true.

But she ends, strangely, kind of casting doubt on her whole line of crap:

As Hemingway’s “The Sun Also Rises” said in its dark final line: “Isn’t it pretty to think so?”

So Margaret, what the fuck is your point?

(I haz a confused)

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:00:25pm
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Nyet  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:00:30pm

With a few exceptions Twitter doesn’t care about Nazis, but plz report anyway.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:06:28pm
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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:12:33pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:15:28pm

re: #357 jaunte

Caging children is an abomination. No matter what your cherry-picked scriptures say. Ain’t no Jesus in this.

this goes beyond “deterrence” - this is abominable

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:15:51pm
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ObserverArt  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:17:34pm

re: #351 JordanRules

Melon probably has no idea what’s going on.

I imagine one thing everyone around Trump who has a relationship with him hears at one time or a million is: “You do as you are told.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:19:03pm

Fair warning to you all: This ICE stuff is going to get worse before it gets better.

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Teukka  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:19:54pm

re: #361 Eclectic Cyborg

Fair warning to you all: This ICE stuff is going to get way, way worse before it gets better.

Seconded and FTFY.

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Cheechako  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:21:01pm

re: #361 Eclectic Cyborg

Fair warning to you all: This ICE stuff is going to get worse before it gets better.

As I pointed out a couple of weeks ago, maybe now is the time to refer to ICE as ICESS.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:22:03pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:22:11pm

re: #363 Cheechako

As I pointed out a couple of weeks ago, maybe now is the time to refer to ICE as ICESS.

Immigration and
Customs
Enforcement
Separation
System

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:22:42pm

re: #361 Eclectic Cyborg

Fair warning to you all: This ICE stuff is going to get worse before it gets better.

Especially when the courts and protests really start trying to shut them down. They’ll get aggressive, and they’ll probably start moving people.

We document it, and then start holding them accountable.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:24:14pm

re: #361 Eclectic Cyborg

Fair warning to you all: This ICE stuff is going to get worse before it gets better.

Just wait until they have something like a meningitis outbreak in one of these facilities. Statistically kids are going to die while they’re in this optional government custody, and because of it.

And that too will be spun as both a deterrent and as somehow the fault of Democrats.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:24:34pm
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Teukka  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:25:40pm

re: #365 Eclectic Cyborg

Immigration and
Customs
Enforcement
Separation
System

Anyone willing to do logo graphics with the SS runes font?
*runs for cover*

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Nyet  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:25:54pm

Maybe someone needs to make Taken 4 about this. /

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Teukka  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:26:29pm

re: #366 Belafon

Especially when the courts and protests really start trying to shut them down. They’ll get aggressive, and they’ll probably start moving people.

We document it, and then start holding them accountable.

Document any admin and supporter misdeed. Do remember that conspicuously whipping out a camera or cellphone is just one way, the other is to covertly record.

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Nyet  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:26:53pm

re: #370 Nyet

Nah, who am I kidding, it only works on screen when filthy, shifty Eastern Europeans kidnap white girls./

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:27:12pm

re: #367 goddamnedfrank

Just wait until they have something like a meningitis outbreak in one of these facilities. Statistically kids are going to die while they’re in this optional government custody, and because of it.

And that too will be spun as both a deterrent and as the fault of Democrats.

And the really scary thing is that with this policy Trump has truly crossed his Rubicon. There’s no going back and no graceful surrender of power if he loses the 2020 election. He CANNOT allow a future Democratic administration to fully investigate these crimes against humanity, and by getting DOJ, ICE and Homeland Security to enact this abomination he’s achieved maximum institutional buy-in.

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The Major  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:31:16pm

re: #373 goddamnedfrank

And the really scary thing is that with this policy Trump has truly crossed his Rubicon. There’s no going back and no graceful surrender of power if he loses the 2020 election.

And it’s all playing into Vlad’s hand of staging a Second Civil War.

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:32:43pm

re: #373 goddamnedfrank

And the really scary thing is that with this policy Trump has truly crossed his Rubicon. There’s no going back and no graceful surrender of power if he loses the 2020 election. He CANNOT allow a future Democratic administration to fully investigate these crimes against humanity, and by getting them to enact this abomination he’s achieved maximum institutional buy in by DOJ, ICE and Homeland Security.

January 20, 2021 will find Trump either hiding in the White House, or flying one of his planes off to NY, unless they’re waiting for him, which he might choose to fly somewhere else (do we have to supply Secret Service if he refuses to leave Russia?). If he barricades himself in, just build a wall.

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BeachDem  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:33:08pm

re: #373 goddamnedfrank

And the really scary thing is that with this policy Trump has truly crossed his Rubicon. There’s no going back and no graceful surrender of power if he loses the 2020 election. He CANNOT allow a future Democratic administration to fully investigate these crimes against humanity, and by getting them to enact this abomination he’s achieved maximum institutional buy in by DOJ, ICE and Homeland Security.

Well, Jen Rubin, who, truth be known, has never been a Ted Cruz fan, has just about endorsed Beto (and Democrats.)

That is as clear a choice as voters are going to get as to the direction of the country. Are we Cruz’s America, where children are used as pawns to win points with Trump and Cruz’s anti-immigrant base, or are we, as O’Rourke put it, “better than this”?

At this point, O’Rourke is directing his ire primarily at the administration, but he should not be shy about pointing the finger directly at his opponent, who slavishly supports every move the administration makes and has consistently opposed immigration solutions that would have overwhelming bipartisan support. Every parent in Texas (and every decent human being) should understand they are making not just a political choice but a moral one, too.

There surely must be a wide, diverse coalition of Americans who recoil at a practice so distasteful — a coalition that transcends class, race, gender and ideology… These Americans will have the opportunity in November to throw out politicians who cheer the monstrous policy of child separation.

washingtonpost.com

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ObserverArt  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:35:38pm

I mentioned this earlier. From Meet The Press - elder Republican strategist Al Cardenas shreds the Trump Administration over the separation of children from parents and reveals one of the really dastardly ways ICE was put into place to handle the separation and why so many kids are being separated. All Trump.

More Republicans need to be saying this. A great 2 minute response. Maybe tweet it to the first lady.

Iframe

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HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:54:53pm

re: #373 goddamnedfrank

And the really scary thing is that with this policy Trump has truly crossed his Rubicon. There’s no going back and no graceful surrender of power if he loses the 2020 election. He CANNOT allow a future Democratic administration to fully investigate these crimes against humanity, and by getting DOJ, ICE and Homeland Security to enact this abomination he’s achieved maximum institutional buy-in.

Quite honestly that’s what I fear. He won’t twke a loss well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:55:19pm

I would like to think of this as the point where Trump went so far to please his rabid base that he started to really turn a lot of non-base supporters against his policies.

they might support his immigration policies in general but not this particular policy of separating families, especially in the manner in which they are doing it

only some really sick and deplorable ideologue fucks could possibly support it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:56:13pm

re: #378 HappyWarrior

Quite honestly that’s what I fear. He won’t twke a loss well.

if he had lost, we would have heard to end of it, but it would have been as a private citizen. as a sitting president he will be even worse…

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:58:15pm

re: #379 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I would like to think of this as the point where Trump went so far to please his rabid base that he started to really turn a lot of non-base supporters against his policies.

they might support his immigration policies in general but not this particular policy of separating families, especially in the manner in which they are doing it

only some really sick and deplorable ideologue fucks could possibly support it.

Anecdote != Data, and I know you’re one of many “I don’t do politics on facebook types” but of all the things I’ve posted about Trump doing, this is the one where not only am I getting engagement, but I’m getting “Oh My God” from someone I wasn’t expecting, an old high school classmate here in Texas.

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BeachDem  Jun 17, 2018 • 1:59:51pm

re: #377 ObserverArt

I mentioned this earlier. From Meet The Press - elder Republican strategist Al Cardenas shreds the Trump Administration over the separation of children from parents and reveals one of the really dastardly ways ICE was put into place to handle the separation and why so many kids are being separated. All Trump.

More Republicans need to be saying this. A great 2 minute response. Maybe tweet it to the first lady.

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I’d rather somebody tweet this to Melon.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:00:29pm

re: #381 Belafon

Anecdote != Data, and I know you’re one of many “I don’t do politics on facebook types” but of all the things I’ve posted about Trump doing, this is the one where not only am I getting engagement, but I’m getting “Oh My God” from someone I wasn’t expecting, an old high school classmate here in Texas.

I see a lot of posts against it on FB. I just do not engage on those, I come to sites like this to discuss my politics.

But only a truly sick SOB can possibly support or even accept current ICE policy and practices.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:00:50pm

re: #380 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

if he had lost, we would have heard to end of it, but it would have been as a private citizen. as a sitting president he will be even worse…

Correct.

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:01:57pm

re: #378 HappyWarrior

Quite honestly that’s what I fear. He won’t twke a loss well.

I’m not real worried about how he takes the loss. The real question is how we, as a country, will act. I expect a third of the country to go nuts, though most of them won’t do anything. But there will be those that do, and we will have to be ready to deal with them.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:02:12pm

re: #382 BeachDem

I’d rather somebody tweet this to Melon.

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Benefit of the same immigration policies her husband rails against says what?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:02:58pm

re: #385 Belafon

I’m not real worried about how he takes the loss. The real question is how we, as a country, will act. I expect a third of the country to go nuts, though most of them won’t do anything. But there will be those that do, and we will have to be ready to deal with them.

That’s very true as well. He’s poisoned so many minds.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:04:22pm

re: #387 HappyWarrior

That’s very true as well. He’s poisoned so many minds.

we will see foreign bots going from influencing the outcome of an election to actively promoting civil war

and we need to start acting pre-emptively on that

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:04:38pm

And that third of the country that will go nuts? They will show up at the polls in 2022. And if we let them win, we’re just going to be digging a deeper hole to get out of.

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ObserverArt  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:05:33pm

re: #382 BeachDem

I’d rather somebody tweet this to Melon.

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Tweet it all.

Bombard Melania and all the Republicans with as much as possible to make them look like monsters.

They have to own all of this. No wiggle room allowed.

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:24:28pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:25:16pm

re: #391 Belafon

That is beautiful.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:27:26pm
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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:28:02pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:34:15pm

AMC suspends Chris Hardwick talk show after ex-girlfriend makes allegations of abuse (CNN)

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:34:29pm
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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:35:09pm
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Belafon  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:36:12pm

re: #394 jaunte

“We’ve got so many detainees and not enough people want to work for us. What do we do?”

The answer won’t be “maybe we should rethink our policy.”

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:37:59pm

re: #398 Belafon

“We’ve got so many detainees and not enough people want to work for us. What do we do?”

“I’ve got it! We’ll stumble blindly forward, using every tool of naked force at our disposal, ignoring all resistance, repeating every mistake of the past imagining it will lead to a better outcome.”

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nines09  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:38:40pm
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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:39:17pm
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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:41:57pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:42:52pm

re: #380 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

if he had lost, we would have heard to end of it, but it would have been as a private citizen. as a sitting president he will be even worse…

No.

Trump, Fox and the Republican Bullshit Machine would have gone on and on about how Hillary stole the election and the Republican Congress would have impeached her over Benghazi and her e-mails.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:44:13pm

re: #403 Joe Bacon 🌹

No.

Trump, Fox and the Republican Bullshit Machine would have gone on and on about how Hillary stole the election and the Republican Congress would have impeached her over Benghazi and her e-mails.

Absolutely right.

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:48:15pm

I didnt realize we were this close to getting all Dems. But according to Politico reporter, only 1 left.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:48:57pm
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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:50:05pm

Lots of Americans have managed to internalize wifebeater logic.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:50:43pm

re: #406 jaunte

Ah yes, “Kathy.” With one follower since joining in 2012.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:51:18pm

re: #408 Ace Rothstein

Maybe I was too fast to say “Americans.”

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:52:22pm

re: #401 jaunte

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Sigh.
Finding balance between not looking away and self-care so we can fight.

My rage and fear and sadness are bubbling up throughout the day, every day.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:53:14pm

re: #408 Ace Rothstein

Ah yes, “Kathy.” With one follower since joining in 2012.

If it acts like a Russian troll and it Tweets like a Russian troll and it has very few followers like a Russian troll…

IT IS A FUCKING RUSSIAN TROLL!

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:53:21pm

re: #405 JordanRules

I didnt realize we were this close to getting all Dems. But according to Politico reporter, only 1 left.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:53:41pm

re: #407 jaunte

Like Connie after getting beaten to a pulp by Carlo in The Godfather:

“It was my fault!…Sonny, please it was my fault, Sonny it was my fault. I hit him. I started a fight with him. Please don’t do anything.”

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:54:19pm

re: #410 JordanRules

I didn’t expect to spend Father’s Day following this story, but here we are.

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:56:27pm

re: #412 Belafon

I mean, here’s the thing: If Manchen does sign on, do the Democrats get an award? Does their bill magically go through the Senate because they’re all on board?

The answer to both is no. Were Democrats in charge, this bill would be on the floor, and there would be more than just small groups going to camps.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:57:08pm

re: #415 Belafon

Manchin will never sign on.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 17, 2018 • 2:57:58pm
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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:00:09pm
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Belafon  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:00:14pm

re: #416 Ace Rothstein

Manchin will never sign on.

All I’m saying is that’s the wrong narrative.

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wrenchwench  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:01:22pm

re: #414 jaunte

I didn’t expect to spend Father’s Day following this story, but here we are.

Thank you for posting all those tweets. I just can’t.

They accuse Parents of smuggling their own children in here. They think all the kids are capable of turning MS-13.

Of course they are. THAT’S WHAT THEIR PARENTS ARE TRYING TRYING TO SAVE THEM FROM.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:01:36pm

re: #418 JordanRules

Just like our dear leader wants it.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:03:01pm

Think of all the people who went to church today and listened to men talk about Jesus.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:04:27pm

re: #422 jaunte

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Think of all the people who went to church today and listened to men talk about Jesus.

Very few of them heard about Jesus.

The majority of them got their latest Republican talking points from their Pulpit Pimps who endlessly kiss Trump’s ass.

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Cheechako  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:07:14pm

What’s this crap about the kids having to sleep on the floor on mats? FEMA has 10’s of thousands of army type cots stashed in warehouses all over the country.

Oh Yah. It’s the Govt. Right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing.

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:07:42pm

re: #415 Belafon

I mean, here’s the thing: If Manchen does sign on, do the Democrats get an award? Does their bill magically go through the Senate because they’re all on board?

And the answer to both is no.

I don’t think that is the story at all (all those tweets barely have any engagement), but they are following who is signing on to the bill and that makes sense to me. I know this bill is unlikely to go anywhere and it’s still important to formalize one and get it on the record. We have to do much more than that obviously. Some of that is happening too.

Dems get nothing if they all sign on. It’s still important to me that they do for my own personal reasons.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:08:22pm

re: #424 Cheechako

What’s this crap about the kids having to sleep on the floor on mats? FEMA has 10’s of thousands of army type cots stashed in warehouses all over the country.

That would reduce the opportunity to monetize this event.

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:08:59pm

re: #425 JordanRules

I don’t think that is the story at all (all those tweets barely have any engagement), but they are following who is signing on to the bill and that makes sense to me. I know this bill is unlikely to go anywhere and it’s still important to formalize one and get it on the record. We have to do much more than that obviously. Some of that is happening too.

Dems get nothing if they all sign on. It’s still important to me that they do for my own personal reasons.

I think it’s very important that they do it. I just don’t think the focus should be on one person not signing on. I think it should be on the other 51 what won’t.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:09:17pm

re: #416 Ace Rothstein

Manchin will never sign on.

OR

He will make a speech on the floor of the Senate that he’s given Republicans every chance and they refuse to cooperate. And he will then sign on.

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Cheechako  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:09:58pm

re: #426 jaunte

That would reduce the opportunity to monetize this event.

Silly me. I forgot that part.

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wrenchwench  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:13:25pm

re: #424 Cheechako

What’s this crap about the kids having to sleep on the floor on mats? FEMA has 10’s of thousands of army type cots stashed in warehouses all over the country.

Oh Yah. It’s the Govt. Right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing.

Private prisons. They can’t use government cots without paying for them.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:14:41pm
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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:14:41pm

re: #419 Belafon

All I’m saying is that’s the wrong narrative.

There is no narrative push out there. Don’t mistake me talking about it here meaning it’s bigger than that. I’m not seeing it all over the place like I am the stories about what is happening on the ground.

Everyone knows the immoral assholes in the GOP aren’t signing on.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:15:46pm
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Cheechako  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:17:08pm

re: #430 wrenchwench

Private prisons. They can’t use government cots without paying for them.

Government contracts can be written whereby the govt can provide them. But, you’re right about the profit motive. I can’t even imagine how much the govt is being charged per day for sleeping pads.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:19:34pm
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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:20:57pm
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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:23:56pm

re: #432 JordanRules

There is no narrative push out there. Don’t mistake me talking about it here meaning it’s bigger than that. I’m not seeing it all over the place like I am the stories about what is happening on the ground.

Everyone knows the immoral assholes in the GOP aren’t signing on.

Actually, spoke to soon…the story is getting legs now.
1 Dem holdout and *NO* Republicans. Thats fine with me too.

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:27:08pm

She has a whole thread of lying now.

Disgusting!

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:31:05pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:31:17pm
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Belafon  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:31:34pm

re: #439 JordanRules

She has a whole thread of lying now.

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Disgusting!

Something good to know:

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:36:48pm

Holy crap, my regional newspaper prints two letters from liberals in the same week.

Trump’s Alternative Facts (goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

The writer blisters Trump’s lying, comparing it to Nazi Germany, and the editor of the paper allowed this through in the Sunday edition no less. Maybe the publisher of my newspaper is starting to get sick of this himself?

In 1933, Adolf Hitler became chancellor of Germany. He was elected by the voters of Germany. Once in power, by using the emergency clause of the German constitution, he imposed martial law. Joseph Goebbels, his minister of propaganda, became a proponent of the big lie. He believed, that repeated often enough, the big lie would become accepted truth.

Donald Trump stated Barack Obama was not a natural born American. Today, because Trump only retracted his allegation once, many people still believe his false allegation.

Americans are going to have to decide between the Constitution and the Trump cult of personality. The Constitution is based on separation of powers and checks and balances. Trump is hand picking his favorite candidates in Republican primaries. He has labeled the press the enemy of the people, violated the independence of the Department of Justice and attacked the character of those who oppose him. In foreign policy, Trump has alienated our friends and befriended our enemies. He imposed tariffs on Canada and Europe under the guise of national security. Ironically, the U.S. has a trade surplus with Canada. Our president campaigned on holding China responsible for theft of intellectual property and currency manipulation. The Trump family has benefited financially through new trademarks with China, a pass-through device in the tax reform, and revenues from foreign entities contrary to the Constitution’s emoluments clause.

(more blistering continues at the link)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:36:51pm
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CleverToad  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:37:10pm

re: #254 Eclectic Cyborg

OT:

Father’s Day is tough when you’re struggling with infertility. My wife is now 35 and I’m starting to wonder if I’ll ever be a dad.

We’ve looked into adoption but we can’t afford that right now. It’s a shame there are so many barriers. I’d take in one of those ICE kids in a split.

I’ll be back in a bit. I need to find something to occupy myself.

{{{sympathies!}}} we were 42 & 43 and on our last hopes when we finally acquired our little miracle boy. couldn’t afford major IVF or adoption, but we got blessed and got lucky with less expensive interventions. hope your dreams work out for you two.

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:37:15pm

re: #442 Belafon

Something good to know:

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I love how we’re not just some country that is disregarding international human rights laws, norms, conventions, statutes, what have you. In most cases we are one of the chief architects and champions of such.

Astounding.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:39:48pm

re: #446 JordanRules

I love how we’re not just some country that is disregarding international human rights laws, norms, conventions, statutes, what have you. In most cases we are one of the chief architects and champions of such.

Astounding.

And the maladministration wants to withdraw from the UN Human Rights Commission.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:41:43pm

yowser

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:43:41pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:44:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:44:32pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:46:43pm

re: #445 CleverToad

{{{sympathies!}}} we were 42 & 43 and on our last hopes when we finally acquired our little miracle boy. couldn’t afford major IVF or adoption, but we got blessed and got lucky with less expensive interventions. hope your dreams work out for you two.

Father’s Day is usually a sad day for me.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:49:19pm

re: #451 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just heard on NBC Nightly News regarding the immigration processing center “People are sorted”…

The phrase “people are sorted” should cause a revolution against what is happening right now…

— Roland Scahil

Hmm … didn’t Nazis sort people? They even used little symbols sewn on your shirt or blouse… .

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:49:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:50:44pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:52:45pm
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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:53:26pm

re: #456 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The amount of receipts in her replies is like tax time!

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ObserverArt  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:53:36pm

re: #455 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I wonder what faces being shown they are worried about?

I doubt it is the children.

Must be the Nazis running the center.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:54:06pm
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Teukka  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:54:19pm

re: #459 ObserverArt

I wonder what faces being shown they are worried about?

I doubt it is the children.

Must be the Nazis running the center.

BINGO.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:56:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:56:59pm
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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:58:25pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 3:58:33pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:02:05pm
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Teukka  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:02:09pm

What the…? Jones went off the deep end…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:03:01pm
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ObserverArt  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:03:07pm

re: #465 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Do we want answers?

Looks pretty clear what is going on.

Trump’s actions, practices and the cover by Republican tell you this is the policy. What is the question?

What is needed is pressure for change.

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:03:31pm

re: #467 Teukka

What the…? Jones went of the deep end…

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I regard this as one of his more shallow ends honestly.
Never forget Sandy Hook.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:03:54pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:05:24pm

re: #469 ObserverArt

Do we want answers?

Looks pretty clear what is going on.

Trump’s actions, practices and the cover by Republican tell you this is the policy. What is the question?

What is needed is pressure for change.

We want answers broadcast. We want the Press Secretary to own the policy on television (as a reminder, her press conferences are broadcast on FOX as well).

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:05:59pm

The lights are reported to be on 24 hours.

“…The U.S. Supreme Court has long recognized sleep deprivation as a form of torture and, as explained below, some inmates have successfully challenged 24-hour lighting practices as being in violation of the Eighth Amend­ment. Despite the recognition that there is no penological justification for inflicting physical and psychological harm on inmates by forcing them to live in constant illumination, courts frequently have upheld constant illumination practices, concluding that such lighting only causes discomfort, not injury.”
kcba.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:08:20pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:09:27pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:09:46pm

re: #471 jaunte

The place looks like a fucking zoo. Just like the dear leader wants it.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:10:39pm
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Belafon  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:12:12pm

re: #475 The Vicious Babushka

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:12:15pm

re: #475 The Vicious Babushka

“or if the adult has broken a law”

Like entering without a visa. More bullshit.

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Teukka  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:12:20pm

re: #477 The Vicious Babushka

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:13:37pm
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Belafon  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:14:39pm

re: #479 jaunte

Like entering without a visa. More bullshit.

I’m posting and will be posting over and over again the link from #442 NuncaTrump showing that crossing and then turning themselves over is a legal method of asking for asylum.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:17:16pm
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Teukka  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:19:22pm

re: #480 Teukka

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Litzmannstadt is nowadays known as Łódź.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:19:27pm

re: #480 Teukka

I get the Twitter error which says there are too many responses to the DHS Secretary’s Nazi camp supervisor’s tweet to display them all.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:19:34pm
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Teukka  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:20:08pm

re: #485 Anymouse 🌹

I get the Twitter error which says there are too many responses to the DHS Secretary’s Nazi camp supervisor’s tweet to display them all.

My tweet is “Google “Litzmannstadt Kinder-KZ”…”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:20:55pm

re: #483 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mr. Musk redefining words like a common libertarian.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:23:25pm

re: #485 Anymouse 🌹

I told her to go to hell and stay there.

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teleskiguy  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:26:32pm

Me and pops, a long time ago.

#FathersDay

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:30:44pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:32:34pm

wunderground.com

Looks like we’ll get another round of heavy thunderstorms this evening. A line of storms in an arc from between Steamboat Springs and Fort Collins wrapping around to the east side of Sterling, Colo., all moving north and northeast.

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:33:53pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:34:01pm

re: #492 Anymouse 🌹

And in Philly the heat is on.
weather.gov

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jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:35:05pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:35:41pm

re: #491 jaunte

And Twitter won’t remove them until they start losing money. That happens when people tell Twitter “we’re done with you.” Jack Dorsey is a libertarian. He cares about money and property.

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:37:34pm
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Belafon  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:37:51pm

re: #496 Anymouse 🌹

And Twitter won’t remove them until they start losing money. That happens when people tell Twitter “we’re done with you.” Jack Dorsey is a libertarian. He cares about money and property.

It’s still a bit of a catch-22, though. Go look at the news links of Democrats visiting detention facilities vs the tweets. There would be very little reporting if it weren’t for Twitter.

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:40:02pm
500
stpaulbear  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:42:58pm

re: #460 Backwoods_Sleuth

Elana Schor
✔
@eschor
An hour’s drive from Hidalgo is Casa Padre, the HHS-run facility for migrant kids in a former Walmart. Reporters were allowed in last week. Not today. This is as close as we can get.

Next week it will be a chain link fence with razor wire.

501
ObserverArt  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:43:43pm

re: #494 PhillyPretzel

And in Philly the heat is on.
weather.gov

91° at 7:30…feels like 97° with a 71° dew point. Central Ohio. June 17, 2018.

Gak!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:45:39pm

re: #494 PhillyPretzel

And in Philly the heat is on.
weather.gov

It’s 62 degrees here at Chez Tumbleweed.

Your 88 wouldn’t be particularly noteworthy here, except Philly is near the ocean and I imagine the heat index is awful.

503
PhillyPretzel  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:48:17pm

re: #502 Anymouse 🌹

Hmm. It was not too bad today. It is supposed to be bad tomorrow. We’ll see.

504
teleskiguy  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:49:10pm

Barely a day’s worth of rain, and the forecast is going right back to furnace mode around these parts. The rain was quite helpful in southwest Colorado, where the two largest wildfires in the state are currently burning, though there was some flash flooding and moderate mudflows in the Hermosa Creek drainage.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:49:43pm

Oh yeah, it’s the same guy who investigated Benghazi for 4 FUCKING YEARS.

506
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:49:50pm
507
Anymouse 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:50:37pm

re: #498 Belafon

It’s still a bit of a catch-22, though. Go look at the news links of Democrats visiting detention facilities vs the tweets. There would be very little reporting if it weren’t for Twitter.

There is an alternative for Mr. Dorsey: If he sees that supporting Nazis and Russian bots is losing him money, he might reverse his lack-of-action.

I don’t see any way to force that other than a mass-exodus from Twitter.

Twitter has been invaluable to the March for our Lives organisers as well, and has forced some companies to change their policies (such as Dick’s Sporting Goods).

It is a difficult problem for sure. There are a lot of good people on Twitter spreading information on the New Conservative Cruelty (tm) who may not even know of such places as Mr. Johnson’s Home for Rational Humans (LGF), sites like Rude Pundit, Wonkette, or others.

508
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:51:40pm

re: #501 ObserverArt

91° at 7:30…feels like 97° with a 71° dew point. Central Ohio. June 17, 2018.

Gak!

Right now it’s 68 here in Los Angeles. Have had a cool breeze all day long…

509
b.d.  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:51:42pm

A new Axis of Evil:

510
I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:52:27pm

re: #439 JordanRules

She has a whole thread of lying now.

[Embedded content]

Disgusting!

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Belafon  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:53:51pm

re: #509 b.d. (De-ICE the USA)

A new Axis of Evil:

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We know who and what we’re up against. Can we get everyone else to see it’s a war?

512
JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:54:24pm

re: #509 b.d. (De-ICE the USA)

A new Axis of Evil:

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Yes!!!
That feels like a very accurate read on this abomination and how the factions generally operate within the regime.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:55:20pm

re: #506 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wholly crap, that thread is full of conservaderp.

514
Teukka  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:56:07pm

re: #510 I Would Prefer Not To

[Embedded content]

Am I too harsh?

515
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:56:19pm

re: #509 b.d. (De-ICE the USA)

A new Axis of Evil:

[Embedded content]

Correction!

They are the ASSES OF EVIL!

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fern01  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:56:29pm

re: #24 VegasGolfer

Don’t know how many of you pay attention to golf, besides working at a golf course raking bunkers, but I am totally disgusted with what Phil Mickelson did today. He hit a moving putt which is totally unheard of. (Unless you’re JonDaly). I have always thought he was a piece of shit, but this incident totally proved it to me. He disparaged the integrity of the game, disrespected his fellow players. He got off on insider trading charges (because why? He’s rich). Hes got a smug smile which wants to make you want to punch him in the face. Sound familiar?

Just the old republican way - If you can’t win fair - cheat

517
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:56:51pm
518
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:57:06pm

re: #513 Anymouse 🌹

Wholly crap, that thread is full of conservaderp.

A lot of that KKKonservaderp is coming from Russian trolls!

519
I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:57:22pm

re: #514 Teukka

Am I too harsh?
[Embedded content]

NOT. HARSH. ENOUGH!

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JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:58:16pm
521
meteor  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:59:00pm
522
jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:59:55pm

This is a deliberate tactic.

523
Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 17, 2018 • 4:59:56pm

I don’t want to hear any Republican say a fucking thing about “Family Values” ever again.

524
Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:02:06pm

Also, do NOT underestimate the psychological impact of this.

One of the 6 year-olds in those cells could be the next Osama Bin Laden.

525
teleskiguy  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:02:26pm

re: #514 Teukka

Am I too harsh?

Fuck no. Not harsh enough. I would’ve called her a sanctimonious butt trumpet whose kids will someday murder her in her sleep.

526
Anymouse 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:02:56pm

re: #523 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t want to hear any Republican say a fucking thing about “Family Values” ever again.

“Family values” was always a racist dog whistle, just as their complaints against food stamps, affirmative action, and school integration are. Conservatives have been at this for a very long time.

527
jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:03:41pm

re: #524 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, do NOT underestimate the psychological impact of this.

One of the 6 year-olds in those cells could be the next Osama Bin Laden.

I was hoping they’d be in charge of Stephen Miller’s old age home catheter.

528
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:03:49pm

re: #523 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t want to hear any Republican say a fucking thing about “Family Values” ever again.

They aren’t even Munster or Addams Family values!

529
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:04:16pm

Manchin is the holdout

530
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:04:51pm

re: #524 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, do NOT underestimate the psychological impact of this.

One of the 6 year-olds in those cells could be the next Osama Bin Laden.

if that six-year-old wasn’t before, the odds just increased dramatically.

531
jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:05:22pm
532
stpaulbear  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:06:29pm

re: #529 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Manchin is the holdout

Well him, plus EVERY SINGLE FUCKING REPUBLICAN.

533
jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:07:36pm
534
Anymouse 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:09:04pm

re: #528 Joe Bacon 🌹

They aren’t even Munster or Addams Family values!

Hey, Addams Family values libel. They loved each other.

The Addams Family (6/10) Movie CLIP - Gomez Loves Morticia (1991) HD

535
jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:12:07pm

Here’s a story specifically contradicting the Trumper claim that only families that enter between entry points are being separated:

“…While [Maria Vandelice de Bastos ]sits in a federal detention center in El Paso, Matheus da Silva Bastos, who has severe epilepsy and autism, is more than 2,000 miles away at a state-run center in Connecticut.

Despite claims from the Trump administration that it is only separating families seeking asylum who cross the border illegally in between ports of entry and only began doing so recently, Vandelice de Bastos’s case appears to prove the exact opposite.

What’s more, caretakers of Matheus in two different states have urged federal officials to reunite him with his grandmother, records show.”

536
Ace Rothstein  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:12:46pm

re: #533 jaunte

537
The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:13:58pm
538
jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:14:01pm

re: #536 Ace Rothstein

Hiding the paper so we can’t see it’s blank. Essence of Trump.

539
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:14:36pm
540
jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:15:04pm
541
The Vicious Babushka  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:15:05pm

re: #538 jaunte

Hiding the paper so we can’t see it’s blank. Essence of Trump.

No normal person actually writing something would hold up the edge of the pad to write on it.

542
Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:16:20pm

re: #528 Joe Bacon 🌹

They aren’t even Munster or Addams Family values!

Manson Family values maybe…

543
Teukka  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:17:27pm

re: #542 Eclectic Cyborg

Manson Family values maybe…

INB4 You getting a C+D from the Manson estate
Semi-///

544
JordanRules  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:18:23pm

re: #539 Backwoods_Sleuth

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VA GOP distancing themselves from this dude but you have him on your show. Okay Kasie.

545
fern01  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:19:26pm

re: #107 Barefoot Grin

Caputo claims it was a sleazy set up by the FBI. Still begs the question of why they didn’t report it:

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They’ll blame anyone for their own illegal activities. Now that trump is hating on the FBI that is good to blame.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:19:46pm

There’s a photo in here of all these kids in a huge cage. To the left there’s a sign above a door that says in italicized cursive “Leading the Charge!”

547
jaunte  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:23:08pm

Will Hurd, @GOPOversight IT Subcommittee Chair, also on House #Intel & @HouseHomeland
#TX23

548
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:25:34pm

thread

549
Anymouse 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:26:44pm

re: #533 jaunte

WH official also finally concedes it was written by Bannon and Stephen Miller wsj.com

— Maggie Haberman

Ms. Haberman still can’t use the word “lie.”

550
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:27:11pm
551
Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:27:53pm

re: #546 Ace Rothstein

And remember: these are mostly staged photos of what they WANT us to see.

552
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:30:05pm
553
Anymouse 🌹  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:34:24pm

re: #529 Backwoods_Sleuth

UPDATE: 48 senators now support the Keep Families Together Act. We’re making progress, but we still need Republicans to join. If you’re represented by a Republican senator, tell them to support S.3036.

I wrote one of mine (Senator Sasse) several days ago. Senator Fischer is hopeless as she was one of Trump’s first endorsers.

As expected, I didn’t even get an automated reply. Hence, my letter went as open to my regional newspaper. Back in February 2016, Sasse wrote a letter to the paper explaining why he was a “never Trumper.”

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fern01  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:37:32pm

re: #232 jaunte

Unreasonably generous to a pathological liar to pretend he’s just fibbing sometimes.

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Shows how much love & respect between the moron and his children - he golfs on fathers’ day.

555
fern01  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:49:30pm

re: #264 ObserverArt

I’m a bit willing to forget their past if they start to learn from it.

I just hope “Trump lies” becomes the media bandwagon for a good long while. All jump on and ride it hard.

Then maybe with that, along with a strong November, we can get back on the road to having a country with a decent future.

They only learn until a democrat is elected president, then they do all in their power to give it back to the GOP. The media, like the GOP do not want those “others” to share any economic or political power with white America.

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Cheechako  Jun 17, 2018 • 5:59:07pm

re: #546 Ace Rothstein

[Embedded content]

There’s a photo in here of all these kids in a huge cage. To the left there’s a sign above a door that says in italicized cursive “Leading the Charge!”

Shit!!! I spent a month at the Hurricane Katrina evacuation center at the old Kelly AFB in San Antonio TX and the 4 facilities we managed had far better conditions than these dog cages. The only fences we had were around the whole building and they were to keep the bad people out. The refugees had wrist bands which allowed them to go in/out at any time.
There were cots and blankets for everyone. AC was added to the warehouse in 2 days which cooled the 98 degrees outside temp to a reasonable 72-74 inside. Meals were not fancy but were nutritional. Families slept together in adjacent cots. There were semi-private “nursing” areas with rocking chairs for new moms to feed their kids.

Usually, there were 4,000 and up to 10,000 people served per day.

All in all, not the greatest place to stay, but far better that what the govt is providing these kids.

I have 100’s of pictures of this center but I’m reluctant to post them out of fear they’ll be misused.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:04:16pm

Musk really pisses me off sometimes I gotta admit.

558
dell*nix  Jun 17, 2018 • 6:32:53pm

re: #145 PhillyPretzel

Hand grenades. Do not forget hand grenades.


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