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Interesting Times  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:15:48am
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Single-handed sailor  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:16:48am
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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:16:53am

re: #1 Interesting Times

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“Hey Daddy, I have an idea for what we can do with all those kids just sitting around!”

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:18:35am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:18:37am

re: #1 Interesting Times

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Ivanka is one of the biggest monsters in the administration.

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ckkatz  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:18:52am

From last thread.

To add to your point, it may have already happened, and we do not know.

re: #533 Eclectic Cyborg

Make no mistake: Children will die before this is all over.

ICE will try to claim it was “exposure” or “heat stroke” or “an unfortunate accident”.

We can’t let them get away with it.

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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:19:17am

re: #2 Single-handed sailor

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This isn’t a humanitarian crisis caused by war or conflict. Not one caused by a major natural or manmade disaster. It’s one that was created by evil men who see these children as nothing more than bargaining chips at best, a blight upon the “purity” of their nation at worst.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:19:19am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:19:32am

re: #4 JordanRules

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I’m sure Laura’s MiL were she still with us would be among them too. And I’m sure Mrs. Carter agrees. Melania’s consent with the policy given her own history is repulsive.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:20:02am

re: #8 JordanRules

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Marco Rubio is one of the biggest cowards I’ve ever seen not just in the Republican Party but in any field.

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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:20:04am

re: #4 JordanRules

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Meanwhile the current First Lady is trying to talk about everything but the crisis that her husband has created.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:20:23am
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Belafon  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:20:42am

re: #8 JordanRules

Punch him again, Cameron. Over and over.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:21:27am

re: #13 Belafon

Punch him again, Cameron. Over and over.

That’s right! Do not stop!!

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b.d.  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:22:03am

re: #5 HappyWarrior

Ivanka is one of the biggest monsters in the administration.

She takes after her dad.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:22:48am

re: #13 Belafon

Punch him again, Cameron. Over and over.

Yep, don’t stop. Shame that feckless wanker.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:23:05am

re: #15 b.d. (De-ICE the USA)

She takes after her dad.

She I’d argue is worse than the older boys.

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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:23:14am

re: #8 JordanRules

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That’s because Little Marco’s folks weren’t detained in a cell while the government fast-tracked the paperwork to boot their asses back to Havana. Like his buddy Tailgunner Ted, he’s totally okay with the preferential treatment of certain “illegals” because they reliably vote for whichever party shakes its fist at the husk of Fidel Castro.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:25:05am

re: #5 HappyWarrior

Ivanka is one of the biggest monsters in the administration.

She’s certainly Daddy’s Girl.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:26:12am
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b.d.  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:26:20am

re: #17 HappyWarrior

She I’d argue is worse than the older boys.

She has a brain which sets her apart from her brothers. Ivanka is an uncaring narcissist, just like he daddy,

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:26:34am

re: #19 Winston_Smith

She’s certainly Daddy’s Girl.

In the worst way. The boys piss me off too but Ivanka tries to portray herself more than either of them as this kind hearted person.

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Interesting Times  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:26:58am

re: #19 Winston_Smith

She’s certainly Daddy’s Girl.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:27:17am

re: #20 Charles Johnson

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You want to talk about immigrants and German culture. Have a currywurst or doner kebab next you’re in Germany you pig.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:27:28am

It’s always fun when random people lash out for no reason.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:28:37am

re: #21 b.d. (De-ICE the USA)

She was a brain which sets her apart from her brothers. Ivanka is an uncaring narcissist, just like he daddy,

Yes, unlike the other two, she’s actually got some brains about her. Ivanka would never be as stupid to RT calling the Parkland kids crisis actors. No, she’s cynical enough to pretend to care about mental health issues while doing nothing to dissaude her father from making those cuts. Samantha Bee wasn’t wrong about her.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:29:08am

re: #25 Charles Johnson

It’s always fun when random people lash out for no reason.

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Yeah I don’t know why people do this to you Charles. It’s stupid.

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plansbandc  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:30:29am

re: #10 HappyWarrior

And there were people who wanted him to be President.

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b.d.  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:30:32am

re: #26 HappyWarrior

Yes, unlike the other two, she’s actually got some brains about her. Ivanka would never be as stupid to RT calling the Parkland kids crisis actors. No, she’s cynical enough to pretend to care about mental health issues while doing nothing to dissaude her father from making those cuts. Samantha Bee wasn’t wrong about her.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:30:55am
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Interesting Times  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:31:39am

In which the Crazification Factor® strikes again:

Too bad these sickopaths are the ones running the country :/

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:32:01am

re: #28 plansbandc

And there were people who wanted him to be President.

Because they cynically wanted him to be Republican Obama when he’s too stupid to know what a tool he really is. Ted Cruz is actually pretty intelligent. A cynical asshole of the worst kind but Rubio’s a fucking moron who just does whatever the R establishment tells him to do in the hopes that they’ll make him their great hope. Marco’s never going to be President because even the bigoted morons in the GOP base see what a tool he is.

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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:32:11am

re: #30 Charles Johnson

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If only we’d had somebody to warn us on the campaign trail…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:32:18am

re: #29 b.d. (De-ICE the USA)

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Yep, fucking fake psycho.

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b.d.  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:32:41am

re: #33 Targetpractice

If only we’d had somebody to warn us on the campaign trail…

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dude, emails…..emails!!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:33:20am

re: #31 Interesting Times

In which the Crazification Factor® strikes again:

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Too bad these sickopaths are the ones running the country :/

That’s why I worry. This madness isn’t for the fringe. At least 1/4 accept this crap and that number rises when you get to white people in certain areas.

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Jenner7  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:33:55am

What happened to the press briefing?

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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:35:30am

re: #31 Interesting Times

In which the Crazification Factor® strikes again:

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Too bad these sickopaths are the ones running the country :/

This is why Donny is trying to thump his chest while changing the subject: He’s losing on this subject badly and the efforts to shift the blame are falling flat.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:36:26am

Get rid of Trump guys and I hope to God we do. But you still have a good percentage of the country that accepts this. I’ve said it before but I worry about a truly global economic crisis that allows these guys to really rise. Trumpism is a different phenomenon than Nazism. IT did not rise out of economic troubles, it rose out of prosperity in one of the most powerful cities in the world.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:36:44am
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Jenner7  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:37:11am

re: #37 Jenner7

Sorry, should have looked first.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:37:46am

From the last thread:

Hey Sen. Sasse. I’m a constituent of yours. Read my letter on that from a couple days ago in the Scottsbluff Star-Herald.

starherald.com

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:37:58am

re: #5 HappyWarrior

Ivanka is one of the biggest monsters in the administration.

She’s wholly complicit with her father’s bigotry, bullying and fascism.

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lawhawk  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:38:49am

re: #40 JordanRules

Once again, Trump undermining US national security and spewing nonsense that only creates chaos that ultimately serves his Russian masters.

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Kragar  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:39:24am
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Single-handed sailor  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:39:47am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:40:01am

re: #43 Patricia Kayden

She’s wholly complicit with her father’s bigotry, bullying and fascism.

Yep but because she doesn’t look like Nosferatu’s kid- Miller and portrays herself as a decent person, she gets a lot of passes. George and Laura Bush’s daughters were and are good people with hearts. Ivanka meanwhile is the kind of person that smiles at you as she screws you. A true snake.

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Kragar  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:40:14am

Thread.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:40:27am

re: #46 Single-handed sailor

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Republican voters are fascist fucking pigs.

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Kragar  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:41:19am
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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:41:53am

She’s been literally fighting for kids her whole life. No way she wasn’t gonna speak out.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:41:56am

re: #19 Winston_Smith

She’s certainly Daddy’s Girl.

Daddy’s little ghoul.

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plansbandc  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:42:27am

re: #43 Patricia Kayden

While pretending to be nice.

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lawhawk  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:42:46am

re: #46 Single-handed sailor

Asylum is a legal immigration process. Persons seeking asylum can do it upon entry, or they can claim it as a defense against being deported.

Either way, Trump is doing what white supremacists have been seeking for decades and he’s going after legal immigrants (which is what those seeking asylum are doing).

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:42:51am

re: #51 JordanRules

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She’s been literally fighting for kids her whole life. No way she wasn’t gonna speak out.

We could use her as President right now but I don’t mind if she says fuck you guys, you should have listened to me in November.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:42:55am

Maybe one of the Twitterati here can put my letter up on Sen. Sasse’s Twitter feed?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:43:59am

re: #40 JordanRules

‘Infrastructure Week’

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:44:23am

re: #51 JordanRules

Preach on it, Secretary Clinton!! So glad that she won’t just go away and is still using her voice to pull us in the right direction.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:44:43am

re: #47 HappyWarrior

Yep but because she doesn’t look like Nosferatu’s kid- Miller and portrays herself as a decent person, she gets a lot of passes. George and Laura Bush’s daughters were and are good people with hearts. Ivanka meanwhile is the kind of person that smiles at you as she screws you. A true snake.

Without all the surgeries she would look more Beavis or Butthead like.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:44:55am

Has Biden said anything yet? He’s rumored to be running in 2020. Good time to speak out Joe.

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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:45:19am

re: #45 Kragar

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The “compromise” is that the Nazis don’t get to kick out the Dreamers, but get every other demand they’ve made. And even get to use the Dreamers as ongoing hostages, using the threat of mass deportations to extract continuous funding to the Tortilla Curtain.

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Alephnaught  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:45:19am

re: #20 Charles Johnson

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Blimey, I hope Germans tweeps respond to that like Scots did to his Brexit tweet a couple of years ago. (I’m assuming the German language has the equivalent of words like “cockwomble” and “fucktrumpet”…)

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:45:26am

I got fifty Iraqi dinars that says Huckster doesn’t do the press conference today.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:45:54am

re: #59 JordanRules

Without all the surgeries she would look more Beavis or Butthead like.

I don’t disagree with that lol. It’s just as Michelle Wolf said, she looks like she doesn’t fart in the elevator so the media ignores that she’s her father’s daughter in teh worst ways. IIRC she really tried to screw over her half sister Tiffany.

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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:47:35am

re: #57 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

‘Infrastructure Week’

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“So what will this new branch do?”

“It’ll dominate space for America!”

“How?”

“Well, with satellites…”

“Air Force already does that.”

“Missiles…”

“They do that too…”

“Astronauts…”

“That’s NASA’s job.”

“Spaceships!”

“Are you even listening?”

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:47:59am

re: #64 HappyWarrior

I don’t disagree with that lol. It’s just as Michelle Wolf said, she looks like she doesn’t fart in the elevator so the media ignores that she’s her father’s daughter in teh worst ways. IIRC she really tried to screw over her half sister Tiffany.

Indeed. She’s got PWG privilege.
I’m old enough to remember what she used to look like.

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Belafon  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:48:08am

re: #57 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

‘Infrastructure Week’

“President Trump, upon finding out that people were disgusted with his policy of separating children, tries to change the subject.” I will buy whatever I can to support any news org that makes that statement.

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gocart mozart  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:48:23am
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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:48:45am
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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:48:55am

re: #68 gocart mozart

She’s 100% right.

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Jenner7  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:49:10am

re: #68 gocart mozart

That’s my President.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:49:47am

re: #68 gocart mozart

“Why doesn’t HRC just go away?”

“How come HRC hasn’t said anything about policy X, news development y?”

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:49:50am

re: #71 Jenner7

That’s my President.

Mine too.

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lawhawk  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:50:08am

The GOP are a bunch of feckless cunts.

Trumpworld is filled with a bunch of feckless cunts.

And anyone who defends those feckless cunts are themselves feckless cunts.

Oh, and I being rude?

The barbaric policies Trump’s imposed to satisfy his white supremacist/nativist base deserves the coarse language use. I will not stand idly by and do nothing.

No good people should stand by while people seeking lawful entry to the US via asylum are treated like animals. Trump made it clear that he thinks if you’re not a white European Christian coming into the US that you’re an animal who’ll bring crime and violence with you.

It’s straight out of the Nazi playbook, which was used against the Jews in Germany, and used by America First Nazis here in the US to prevent Jews fleeing Germany from being granted safe entry here.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:50:28am

This is a really good piece from one of my favorite writers.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:50:36am

Pure evil.

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garzooma  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:50:37am

Boston Children’s Hospital weighs in on the family separation:

Boston Children’s stands for keeping families together

Dear Friends,

It seems like it should go without saying that Boston Children’s Hospital does not support the U.S. government’s current practice of forcibly separating children from their parents as they seek asylum. While we recognize that the broader debate over immigration policy is complex, Boston Children’s can never support practices that tear families apart. To divide these families, even temporarily, is to rob children of their primary safety net and undercut their potential for a healthy and successful future.

At Boston Children’s, we have a mission: to provide children with the tools, treatments, care and support they need in order to grow into healthy adults. The responsibility to offer comfort and care to those who need it is a value that has guided this hospital for nearly 150 years. We pride ourselves on providing a safe, welcoming and respectful environment for all who come through our doors, and we do not believe it’s too much to ask the same of our country.

All our best,

Sandra L. Fenwick
President and CEO

Kevin B. Churchwell, MD
EVP of Health Affairs and COO

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:51:03am

re: #73 Ace Rothstein

Mine too.

Same here!
*raises hand*

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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:51:48am

re: #76 Ace Rothstein

Pure evil.

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Sociopaths gotta stick together, ya know.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:53:30am
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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:54:17am
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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:54:39am

re: #80 Charles Johnson

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Funny, I don’t see the mention of Hitler in your tweet, Charles. Seems somebody needs to call Dr. Freud.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:54:48am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:55:16am

re: #80 Charles Johnson

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The fact that they’re comparable shows what horrible human beings the entire Administration and all their supporters - every last one - are.

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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:55:19am

re: #81 JordanRules

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At least they restrained him from drawing hearts and kisses around the pics of Kim.

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Teukka  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:55:22am

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dangerman  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:55:39am

re: #4 JordanRules

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with respect to michelle obama “Sometimes truth transcends party.”

truth is truth
it always transcends party

sometimes truth transcends party politics

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:55:43am

re: #80 Charles Johnson

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:55:49am

re: #81 JordanRules

God, how I miss Pete Souza’s eye. Those photos are garbage.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:55:50am

Me af!!!

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plansbandc  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:56:29am

re: #82 Targetpractice

I’m just glad he was pointed out so I could block his ignorant ass.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:56:43am

re: #89 Ace Rothstein

God, how I miss Pete Souza’s eye. Those photos are garbage.

They are bad at everything. Can’t do anything well.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:59:15am

re: #86 Teukka

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plansbandc  Jun 18, 2018 • 11:59:18am

re: #92 JordanRules

You’d think they would want to have an excellent photog versed in the proper propaganda techniques. Thankfully they are incompetent in every way.

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Teukka  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:00:07pm

re: #93 JordanRules

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BeachDem  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:00:20pm

re: #90 JordanRules

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Me af!!!

I often describe it as Democrats might not have all the answers, but at least we ask the right questions.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:03:50pm
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Sir John Barron  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:05:42pm

re: #97 JordanRules

Yes, we must get to the bottom of the corrupt FBI’s conspiracy against Tump…oh this is about leaks regarding HRC? Oh, let’s wrap this up, OK, it’s gone on long enough.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:05:46pm

re: #53 plansbandc

While pretending to be nice.

That act is dead and buried.

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Belafon  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:07:33pm
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Belafon  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:08:47pm

Supposedly, this is as accurate as can be made collection of the locations of immigrant detention facilities: freedomforimmigrants.org.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:09:56pm

re: #100 Belafon

Government sanctioned child abuse.

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Teukka  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:10:39pm

re: #100 Belafon

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[tinfoil]This is the admin probing. It’s small fries compared to what may come.[/tinfoil]

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Kragar  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:11:02pm
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Winston_Smith  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:11:46pm

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:14:41pm

re: #104 Kragar

…but the latter we be expensed as though it’s the former.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:14:51pm
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lawhawk  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:17:12pm

re: #100 Belafon

Shaun King is another one who needs to show contrition and apologize for his nonstop Clinton is as bad as or worse than Trump bullshit he spewed all through 2016.

We wouldn’t be dealing with Trump’s white supremacist purity party slouching towards fascism at an ever increasing pace.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:17:26pm

BEES!

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:17:46pm

re: #81 JordanRules

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plansbandc  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:20:36pm

re: #108 lawhawk

Not a fan. Blocked him awhile ago.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:23:48pm

re: #108 lawhawk

Shaun King is another one who needs to show contrition and apologize for his nonstop Clinton is as bad as or worse than Trump bullshit he spewed all through 2016.

We wouldn’t be dealing with Trump’s white supremacist purity party slouching towards fascism at an ever increasing pace.

Oh he still fully believes it. He tweeted some dumb shit about Dems and Bernie just the other day. It was ridiculous.

But I will definitely support some of his social justice work. Other stuff he has done is suspect and I will be discerning with him and his works.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:25:10pm

re: #81 JordanRules

Not only do the photos suck, those god-awful gold frames are even worse.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:26:33pm

When Dems take over the WH and eventually the house and/or Senate, ICE and border patrol need purging. Somehow.

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plansbandc  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:27:32pm

I think Hilary haters are just about as contemptible as Trumpsters. I block them both with equal vigor.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:28:29pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:29:39pm

re: #107 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

They’re just changing tires and shoveling shit. Literally.

thehill.com

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danarchy  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:30:02pm

re: #77 garzooma

Boston Children’s Hospital weighs in on the family separation:

I fully expect rwnj’s to start screaming about Justina Pelletier.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:30:48pm

The most patient woman on that damn app.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:31:27pm
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CongoJack  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:31:43pm

re: #114 GlutenFreeJesus

When Dems take overbthe WH and eventually the house or Senate, ICE and border patrol need purging. Somehow.

I propose what the Rs do to healthcare as the solution.

Take the ICE force and remove it from HHS. Then institute block grants to local/state governments for the sole purpose of holding their own immigration agents. Then watch the states spend that grant money in places it needs rather than on a force of thugs. Then after that bleeds itself recreate an Immigrant Rights and Assistance group in the HHS and call it a day.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:32:05pm

re: #119 JordanRules

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The most patient woman on that damn app.

Stewart really needs to get laid and stop trolling the former first daughter in a pathetic way. Happy B-Day to Aidan. Great name choice btw!

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sagehen  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:32:44pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

If only we’d had somebody to warn us on the campaign trail…

////////

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:33:42pm

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Be a 22 year old blonde American college girl, pose with an actual gun for your graduation, get invited on all the right wing talk shows, get job offers, adn told that you really “triggered the libs”. Be random children in Syria playing with toy guns, get represented as Hispanic and used as why we shouldn’t let small children into the US. Did I mention how much I loathe the American right wing and want their ideology to crash faster than the Hindenburg?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:33:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:34:48pm

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So yeah Kim, I just met you, here’s my number, you can call me maybe!

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:35:26pm

re: #112 JordanRules

Oh he still fully believes it. He tweeted some dumb shit about Dems and Bernie just the other day. It was ridiculous.

But I will definitely support some of his social justice work. Other stuff he has done is suspect and I will be discerning with him and his works.

Shaun King is just a wannabe Glenn Greenwald. Maybe a bit less cynical and more naïve, but with the same underlying reckless know-it-all-ism, distain for pragmatism and willingness to condone the obvious harm that results from his in-the-moment tactics. Both men advance their unbending principles through an absolutist unilateralism that stems from an absolutist perception that theirs is the only possible way to achieve the greater good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:35:36pm

Casa Presidente is in Brownsville

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:35:42pm

re: #125 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Stanley Sea  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:35:51pm

Not sorry

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:37:11pm

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Casa Presidente is in Brownsville

I can’t even think of the words for how much this angers me. A child that young needs their parents!

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Kragar  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:37:12pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:38:35pm

re: #132 Kragar

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You know, maybe if conservatives complained about this kind of big government instead of expanding health care and social programs, they might actually have a point but they love this kind of shit.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:38:47pm

re: #114 GlutenFreeJesus

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Scottish Dragon  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:40:41pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

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Whatever you thought you might do in 1935 Munich is what you are doing now.

We aren’t in theoretical territory anymore. We are building fucking concentration camps in the fucking desert in the fucking summer.

For children.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:41:25pm

This asshole can DIAF

Detention officer arrested for sexually assaulting 4 year old and threatening mother with deportation.

[blockquote]Salazar said the victim’s mother reported the sexual assault Saturday night after the child made an outcry to her mom. It’s believed the sexual assault had been going on for the past few months, possibly years. Sheriff Salazar said the victim’s mother is an undocumented immigrant and Nunez allegedly threatened her with deportation if she reported the sexual assault.

After further investigation and questioning, 47-year-old Jose Nunez was arrested and charged with super aggravated sexual assault.[/blockquote]

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:42:10pm

re: #136 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

This asshole can DIAF

Detention officer arrested for sexually assaulting 4 year old and threatening mother with deportation.

[blockquote]Salazar said the victim’s mother reported the sexual assault Saturday night after the child made an outcry to her mom. It’s believed the sexual assault had been going on for the past few months, possibly years. Sheriff Salazar said the victim’s mother is an undocumented immigrant and Nunez allegedly threatened her with deportation if she reported the sexual assault.

After further investigation and questioning, 47-year-old Jose Nunez was arrested and charged with super aggravated sexual assault.[/blockquote]

There’s a special place for people like this. But hey don’t ever kneel for the national anthem folks!

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:42:15pm

re: #127 goddamnedfrank

Shaun King is just a wannabe Glenn Greenwald. Maybe a bit less cynical and more naïve, but with the same underlying reckless know-it-all-ism, distain for pragmatism and willingness to condone the obvious harm that results from his in-the-moment tactics. Both men advance their unbending principles through an absolutist unilateralism that stems from an absolutist perception that theirs is the only possible way to achieve thethe greater good.

I have no argument there. Some of my areas of critical (life and death) concern are so voiceless that I stretch on them to hear something. Maybe that won’t always be the case and please believe that it will be easy as hell to completely cancel the fake weed smoker.

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Scottish Dragon  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:42:56pm

re: #134 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:43:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:45:02pm

re: #139 Scottish Dragon

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:46:22pm

LOL

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Jenner7  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:47:17pm

re: #130 Stanley Sea

With all the bullshit going on, I needed that.

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:47:34pm

Charles, seeing this on the YouTube video.

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A team of highly trained monkeys has been dispatched to deal with this situation.

If you see them, send them this information as text (screenshots frighten them):
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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:48:03pm
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lawhawk  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:48:31pm

re: #132 Kragar

Border Patrol runs over Native Americans on their own tribal lands, but federal law enforcement allows sovereign citizens to take over a national wildlife refuge they have no right to do, and lets them occupy that land for months causing significant resource damage.

White privilege rears its ugly head in so many ways.

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sagehen  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:48:43pm

re: #130 Stanley Sea

Not sorry

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The Winged Victory of Samathrace is my favorite piece of art in the entire universe. I love it more than any painting, any photo, any music, any dance, any poem or novel, any architecture, any landscape or any food.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:49:03pm

re: #145 JordanRules

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I hope Ann finds poverty, loneliness, and pain. I mean that.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:49:32pm
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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:50:06pm

re: #148 HappyWarrior

I hope Ann finds poverty, loneliness, and pain. I mean that.

I’m thinking that is more likely.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:51:27pm

re: #150 JordanRules

I’m thinking that is more likely.

I still remember Maher chiding all the liberals who criticize her. It’s another reason why I don’t like him. I don’t want her criminalized for the hateful things she says but I want her to feel the same pain she wants in others.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:53:37pm

re: #148 HappyWarrior

I hope Ann finds poverty, loneliness, and pain. I mean that.

Morals would lead to that with her past.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:57:51pm

re: #119 JordanRules

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The most patient woman on that damn app.

I LOVE CHELSEA!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:58:06pm

re: #152 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Morals would lead to that with her past.

She should be remembered how people like Father Coughlin are today.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:58:21pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:58:32pm

re: #148 HappyWarrior

I hope Ann finds poverty, loneliness, and pain. I mean that.

I hope that shrew winds up pushing a shopping cart on Skid Row.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:59:43pm

re: #155 JordanRules

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I’m proud I voted for her.

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 12:59:54pm

re: #144 teleskiguy

OK, it’s fixed.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:01:02pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:01:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:02:10pm
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Belafon  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:02:13pm

re: #149 JordanRules

Kelly: Let’s try this again, Sarah. If a reporter asks “How would you like it if your kids were taken from you?” you say—
*simultaneously*
Sanders: I wouldn’t like that at all.
Kelly: Anything for the glory of the administration.

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Jenner7  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:03:53pm

NO words, only tears

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TedStriker  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:04:23pm

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:06:30pm

meanwhile in Kentucky:

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TedStriker  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:07:06pm

re: #163 Jenner7

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NO words, only tears

If ever the Dems can get control of the WH and Congress, there’s a whole lot of folks in ICE and the BP that need to lose their fucking jobs.

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:07:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:08:51pm
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TedStriker  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:10:20pm
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makeitstop  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:10:48pm

I just spent the better part of two hours on Facebook, going back and forth with a nephew who argued that taking kids away from their parents at the border was equivalent to putting the child of a drug dealer in protective custody.

He’s a smart kid, so I went step by step with him. Things he didn’t know:

- that applying for asylum is legal, and people applying for asylum have up to a year to actually file after getting here
- that Border Patrol was denying people their applications for asylum, thereby turning them into ‘border jumpers’ and arresting them
- that none of the camps where people were allowed to inspect had any girls or women in them, only men and boys
- that some immigrant children had been handed over to human traffickers

It was a long walk, but I actually got him to conceded that his initial point was wrong and had he known what I told him, he never would have posted it. And he said that he agreed that this has to be stopped.

It got me thinking about how many people are watching this and just assuming that everyone showing up at the border is illegal. And then this song came on the radio and the words really hit home.

If Everyone Was Listening

The actors and jesters are here
The stage is in darkness and clear
For raising the curtain
And no-ones quite certain whose play it is

How long ago, how long
If only we had listened then.
If we’d known just how right we were going to be.

For we dreamed a lot
And we schemed a lot
And we tried to sing of love before the stage fell apart.

If everyone was listening you know
There’d be a chance that we could save the show
Who’ll be the last clown
To bring the house down?
Oh no, please no, don’t let the curtain fall

Well, what is your costume today?
Who are the props in your play?
You’re acting a part which you thought from the start
Was an honest one.

Well how do you plead?
An actor indeed!
Go re-learn your lines,
You don’t know what you’ve done
The finale’s begun.

If everyone was listening you know
There’d be a chance that we could save the show,
Who’ll be the last clown
To bring the house down?
Oh no, please no, don’t let the curtain fall.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:13:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:14:34pm
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Belafon  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:17:23pm

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

I keep wondering why were not hearing from the Women’s March people. This ought to be something they should be getting people out for.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:18:15pm
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dangerman  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:19:25pm

re: #149 JordanRules

Today’s WH briefing, originally scheduled for 1:15pm, rescheduled for 3:30pm, now delayed again to 4PM.

please dont make me go out there
please……

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Scottish Dragon  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:20:37pm

re: #163 Jenner7

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NO words, only tears

I can’t even make it all the way through this.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:20:38pm

re: #57 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

‘Infrastructure Week’

The opposition response so far seems to be based on an assumption that this will be something wholly new, created from scratch at vast cost. We can count on Trump to screw it up, of course, but the creation of a separate space branch does not necessarily entail any substantial new expenditure. It basically separates the existing Air Force Space Command and some related activities into its own branch, separate from the Air Force as a whole. As such this proposal is similar to the separation of the Army Air Force into the independent US Air Force in 1947. This has been on the table for many years and there are valid arguments both pro and con. Hysterical assumptions that it will automatically be a huge new drain on resources are just not going to help.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:21:32pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:24:05pm

re: #177 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

According to a White House pool report, the president signed the executive order establishing the Space Force at about 12:36 p.m.

The opposition response so far seems to be based on an assumption that this will be something wholly new, created from scratch at vast cost. We can count on Trump to screw it up, of course, but the creation of a separate space branch does not necessarily entail any substantial new expenditure. It basically separates the existing Air Force Space Command and some related activities into its own branch, separate from the Air Force as a whole. As such this proposal is similar to the separation of the Army Air Force into the independent US Air Force in 1947. This has been on the table for many years and there are valid arguments both pro and con. Hysterical assumptions that it will automatically be a huge new drain on resources are just not going to help.

Trump will give them the task of making it so he can stare at the sun during an eclipse. Or all the time.

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I cannot.  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:24:30pm

re: #175 dangerman

What? You think SHS has ever had any compunction about making more smoky eye makeup? No, I think something else is going on, possibly something involving throwing furniture, threats of/actual resignations or more Infrastructure Week entertainment.

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Jenner7  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:24:36pm

re: #176 Scottish Dragon

I couldn’t either.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:24:49pm
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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:25:59pm

re: #176 Scottish Dragon

I can’t even make it all the way through this.

I don’t know if I can even start.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:26:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:27:45pm
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Kragar  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:27:53pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:28:22pm

I remember hearing Bayard Rustin sing this and I was moved to tears!

Go down Moses
Way down in Egypt land
Tell all pharaoes to
Let my people go!

When Israel was in Egypt land
Let my people go!
Oppressed so hard they could not stand
Let my people go!

So the God said: go down, Moses
Way down in Egypt land
Tell all pharaoes to
Let my people go!

So Moses went to Egypt land
Let my people go!
He made all pharaoes understand
Let my people go!

Yes the lord said: go down, Moses
Way down in Egypt land
Tell all pharaoes to
Let my people go!

Thus spoke the lord, bold Moses said:
-let my people go!
if not I’ll smite, your firstborn’s dead
-let my people go!

God-the lord said :
Go down, Moses
Way down in Egypt land
Tell all pharaoes to
Let my people go!
Tell all pharaoes
To let my people go

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:29:54pm

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh shit. I wonder if they will cancel.

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Teukka  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:31:06pm

re: #187 Joe Bacon 🌹

I remember hearing Bayard Rustin sing this and I was moved to tears!

Go down Moses
Way down in Egypt land
Tell all pharaoes to
Let my people go!

When Israel was in Egypt land
Let my people go!
Oppressed so hard they could not stand
Let my people go!

So the God said: go down, Moses
Way down in Egypt land
Tell all pharaoes to
Let my people go!

So Moses went to Egypt land
Let my people go!
He made all pharaoes understand
Let my people go!

Yes the lord said: go down, Moses
Way down in Egypt land
Tell all pharaoes to
Let my people go!

Thus spoke the lord, bold Moses said:
-let my people go!
if not I’ll smite, your firstborn’s dead
-let my people go!

God-the lord said :
Go down, Moses
Way down in Egypt land
Tell all pharaoes to
Let my people go!
Tell all pharaoes
To let my people go

Me? The bridge in in the Soundtrack version of “When you believe” moves me to tears at times, even tho it is in Hebrew and I don’t understand a word.

When You Believe - The Prince of Egypt (Original Version by Michelle Pfeiffer & Sally Dworsky)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:31:30pm
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Scottish Dragon  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:31:44pm
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Jenner7  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:32:54pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:33:04pm

re: #177 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The opposition response so far seems to be based on an assumption that this will be something wholly new, created from scratch at vast cost. We can count on Trump to screw it up, of course, but the creation of a separate space branch does not necessarily entail any substantial new expenditure. It basically separates the existing Air Force Space Command and some related activities into its own branch, separate from the Air Force as a whole. As such this proposal is similar to the separation of the Army Air Force into the independent US Air Force in 1947. This has been on the table for many years and there are valid arguments both pro and con. Hysterical assumptions that it will automatically be a huge new drain on resources are just not going to help.

I know that, for most of the public, the chaos that followed in the wake of the creation of the Air Force and the need for “consolidation” of the services is lost to the mists of history. To them, I advise to look up four words: “Revolt of the Admirals.”

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Teukka  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:33:12pm

re: #189 Teukka

Me? The bridge in in the Soundtrack version of “When you believe” moves me to tears at times, even tho it is in Hebrew and I don’t understand a word.

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Another one is “Deliver us”:

Deliver Us - Prince Of Egypt

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makeitstop  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:33:22pm

re: #188 JordanRules

Oh shit. I wonder if they will cancel.

Odds are good. They’re about to go head-down on all of this. They can’t fucking justify it.

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Jenner7  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:33:28pm
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Belafon  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:33:44pm

re: #191 Scottish Dragon

We either deal with it or we will be judged.

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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:33:58pm

re: #192 Jenner7

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Two years later, the press are still paying rapt attention to an empty podium.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:34:31pm

Looks like we’re still waiting on this one to start too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:34:32pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:34:47pm

re: #196 Jenner7

Sarah Sanders just now: “The briefing will be delayed until 5pm so that Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen can join me and answer questions regarding immigration. Thank you for your patience.”

Does this mean we get three hours of shots of an empty podium?

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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:34:49pm

re: #196 Jenner7

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Translation: “Nielsen, get your ass out there! And don’t forget your sword!”

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Teukka  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:35:20pm

re: #197 Belafon

We either deal with it or we will be judged.

Second that.

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Belafon  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:36:18pm

re: #196 Jenner7

Gotta bring in the pro-liar.

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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:36:56pm

Now taking bets on how long Nielsen lasts before Donny lops off her head to add to the collection.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:37:32pm

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

You’d think with all the whining about Mueller and Comey that Dumpster does, that more people would begin to wonder what exactly he’s hiding.

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Teukka  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:38:17pm

re: #205 Targetpractice

Now taking bets on how long Nielsen lasts before Donny lops off her head to add to the collection.

Why am I getting emperor Cartagia vibes (Babylon 5 reference)?

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:38:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:39:32pm
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Sir John Barron  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:39:39pm

re: #192 Jenner7

I wonder why they’re even bothering. All they care about is their base.

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Scottish Dragon  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:40:24pm

re: #207 Teukka

Why am I getting emperor Cartagia vibes (Babylon 5 reference)?

Stephen Miller always has a couple Shadows on either side of him.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:40:33pm

I’m waiting for Trump to give Eva Kirstjen a basket filled of figs with a surprise inside…

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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:40:44pm

Donny never accepts responsibility for his actions, so Nielsen’s days are pretty much numbered. She’ll be “asked” to resign in order to give him cover for ending this godforsaken policy, with all the blame for such being heaped upon her as he makes sure to avoid putting any blame on ICE.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:41:20pm

re: #210 Sir John Barron

I wonder why they’re even bothering. All they care about is their base.

and this is where it could backfire…the base is pleased but nearly everybody else is finding this all too inhumane, even those who generally agree with his immigration and asylum policies.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:42:23pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:43:17pm
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Stanley Sea  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:43:33pm

re: #213 Targetpractice

Donny never accepts responsibility for his actions, so Nielsen’s days are pretty much numbered. She’ll be “asked” to resign in order to give him cover for ending this godforsaken policy, with all the blame for such being heaped upon her as he makes sure to avoid putting any blame on ICE.

If she had a shred of decency, she’d be resigning right now, after that performance this am. They’re sending her out there to dance.

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Teukka  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:43:41pm

re: #215 Charles Johnson

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:44:30pm

The reason that the administration is careful not to show faces in the photos from the concentration camps is not privacy, but in fact they don’t want somebody to recognize their loved ones.

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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:44:36pm

Look for “leaks” in the near future about how Nielsen’s the one who totally sold Trump on this policy, promised him that DHS was totally ready to handle the whole thing, and it work as a means of dissuading “illegals” from entering the US.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:44:44pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:46:03pm

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

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NASA: “So we can expect greatly increased funding and Congressional support?”

GOP: “HAHAHAHAHAHahahaha…oh, wait, you’re serious? Fuck no, we need that money for bombs and missiles! Now get out!”

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Belafon  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:46:14pm

re: #220 Targetpractice

Look for “leaks” in the near future about how Nielsen’s the one who totally sold Trump on this policy, promised him that DHS was totally ready to handle the whole thing, and it work as a means of dissuading “illegals” from entering the US.

Every reporter needs to then ask why Kelly and Sessions announced it last year.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:46:23pm

And what do you think the odds are that some of the older kids will become radicalized, and go straight from the concentration camp to Gitmo?

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:47:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:47:23pm
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DodgerFan1988  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:48:25pm

re: #218 Teukka

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Congratulations Republicans. You’re now the American version of the Nazis, Khmer Rouge, and Interahamwe.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:48:28pm

I hate to even think of the practical effects of the confinement of children. The fact that we are committing child abuse on an industrial scale just doesn’t seem to sink in to the powers that be.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:48:56pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:49:20pm

All this hand wringing among Republicans about kids in concentration camps is for shit. Laura Bush said this is bad? Fuck her, I might forgive if she took a picture of her new Democratic voter registration and posted it to social media, until then Republicans of all stripes can take a long walk off a short pier, nazi scum!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:51:13pm
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Belafon  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:51:58pm

re: #230 teleskiguy

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Jenner7  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:52:34pm

What a coward.

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:54:16pm

re: #232 Belafon

If they were in federal office or running for reelection they wouldn’t be saying jack shit. Fuck the Republican Party, no quarter.

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Belafon  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:54:19pm

re: #233 Jenner7

What a coward.

The press had better never let her off the hook, then. It’s not like it’s going to go away tomorrow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:54:23pm
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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:54:24pm

re: #233 Jenner7

Actually I think that’s a good thing. Sanders is just a spokesperson without any authority. Nielson has authority, so let her face the music.

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I cannot.  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:54:56pm
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Varek Raith  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:55:04pm

FUCK.

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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:56:41pm

re: #233 Jenner7

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What a coward.

In other words, Huckaboo didn’t want to face any more questions about her hypocrisy from the press.

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sagehen  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:57:05pm

re: #183 JordanRules

I don’t know if I can even start.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:57:10pm
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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:58:47pm

Dems speaking now…

Facebook Post

You don’t need FB to watch.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:59:43pm

Ooh! Embed magic, cool!

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Belafon  Jun 18, 2018 • 1:59:53pm

re: #234 teleskiguy

If they were in federal office or running for reelection they wouldn’t be saying jack shit. Fuck the Republican Party, no quarter.

If Laura Bush called me up and told me to meet her for a news conference to speak out about the separation of families, I would. Because, as the tweet says, it’s about getting those families back together.

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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:00:49pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She’s being set up as the scapegoat. This policy is crashing and burning, so the White House is desperately scrambling to set her up to take the fall.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:01:25pm
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Belafon  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:02:25pm

re: #246 Targetpractice

She’s being set up as the scapegoat. This policy is crashing and burning, so the White House is desperately scrambling to set her up to take the fall.

Let them do it. And when they fire her, we start demanding to see those families put back together and demand to see a plan to take care of them.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:02:41pm
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dangerman  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:04:13pm

re: #180 I cannot.

What? You think SHS has ever had any compunction about making more smoky eye makeup? No, I think something else is going on, possibly something involving throwing furniture, threats of/actual resignations or more Infrastructure Week entertainment.

well sure. after the injection…

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:04:21pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:04:56pm

re: #249 JordanRules

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Weren’t both things the subject of endless wingnut screaming during the Obama years? That Republican obstructionism wasn’t an excuse for failing to wait for Congress to act?

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Belafon  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:05:45pm

re: #249 JordanRules

And the only way to stop these is protests, because they aren’t going to listen to the courts.

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Mike Lamb  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:05:53pm

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Once again, with feeling, seeking asylum is not illegal.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:06:14pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:06:58pm
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dangerman  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:07:48pm

re: #177 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The opposition response so far seems to be based on an assumption that this will be something wholly new, created from scratch at vast cost. We can count on Trump to screw it up, of course, but the creation of a separate space branch does not necessarily entail any substantial new expenditure. It basically separates the existing Air Force Space Command and some related activities into its own branch, separate from the Air Force as a whole. As such this proposal is similar to the separation of the Army Air Force into the independent US Air Force in 1947. This has been on the table for many years and there are valid arguments both pro and con. Hysterical assumptions that it will automatically be a huge new drain on resources are just not going to help.

this is the concerning part, not the money:

“It is not enough to merely have an American presence in space. We must have American dominance in space,

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:08:24pm

As much as I’d like to mock the Space Farce, it’s only there to distract from the national child abuse program.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:08:42pm
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Sir John Barron  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:08:43pm

re: #252 Targetpractice

Weren’t both things the subject of endless wingnut screaming during the Obama years? That Republican obstructionism wasn’t an excuse for failing to wait for Congress to act?

This is different because

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dangerman  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:10:04pm

re: #196 Jenner7

Sarah Sanders just now: “The briefing will be delayed until 5pm so that Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen can join me and answer questions regarding immigration. Thank you for your patience.”

for the love of all things, someone please ask “what is the specific law?”

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:10:22pm
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dangerman  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:12:58pm

re: #206 Sir John Barron

You’d think with all the whining about Mueller and Comey that Dumpster does, that more people would begin to wonder what exactly he’s hiding.

Roger Stone Met with a Russian Offering Dirt on Clinton

And at this point, the preponderance of evidence makes clear that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians. There is no other explanation for why so many people would have so many meetings and then would find a need to lie about those meetings. There is no other explanation for why Trump himself would need to spend so much time and energy challenging the legitimacy of the investigation and the coverage of his conduct.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:13:27pm

re: #261 dangerman

for the love of all things, someone please ask “what is the specific law?”

SHS: The law passed by Democrat Party

Press: Which law?

SHS: That law

P: When was it passed?

SHS: In Congress

P: When?

SHS: Whenever Congress meets

P: Who signed the law?

SHS: All of them

P: All of who?

SHS: Democrat Party and Hillary Clinton

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:15:30pm
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dangerman  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:17:22pm

re: #233 Jenner7

A White House official tells @jeffzeleny that @PressSec didn’t want to do the briefing today amid questions on child separation policy, so @SecNielsen is being flown in from New Orleans to take questions.

What a coward.

ahem
re: #175 dangerman

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:17:33pm

re: #263 dangerman

Roger Stone Met with a Russian Offering Dirt on Clinton

“Oh, you mean THOSE Russians offering dirt on Clinton!”

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dangerman  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:19:08pm

re: #242 Backwoods_Sleuth

Here’s what I have to say about Trump’s Space Force:

He’s separating children from families and putting the children in prisons, cages and tents.

That’s the story. Just like the thousands of dead in Puerto Rico is the story. Fuck Space Force.

everything is a distraction

from this
from puerto rico
from russiagate

everything

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:19:19pm

Press briefing right now.

Link

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:20:59pm

“The children are being well-taken care of.” Bullshit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:21:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:21:32pm
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:21:54pm

“Claiming these parents and children are being mistreated is untrue.”

Wow!

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:22:12pm

“Illegal entry is a crime.”

Yeah, a fucking misdemeanor.

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MsJ  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:22:20pm

Now she is just lying her ass off that it is illegal entry. They are asylum seekers.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:22:23pm

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Gross!

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Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:22:31pm

Yikes. What an ice queen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:22:39pm
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ObserverArt  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:23:11pm

Shorter Nielsen.

They are all criminals. We then treat them as such.

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makeitstop  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:23:16pm

re: #269 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Press briefing right now.

Link

Neilsen is so fucking arrogant. She belongs in jail.

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:23:35pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:23:49pm

jeebus

seeking asylum is not illegal

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:25:00pm
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:25:01pm

Oh, boo hoo. Don’t be mean to the Border Patrol agents in your reporting.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:25:28pm
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BeachDem  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:26:09pm

re: #247 JordanRules

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:26:12pm
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:26:59pm

Answer the question! Is it cruel?

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Jenner7  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:27:04pm

I want to hit this bitch.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:27:54pm

How is this not child abuse?

Excellent question!

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dangerman  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:27:55pm

Big Majority Oppose Trump’s Separation Policy

its a 4 line synopsis so im quoting the whole thing

A new Quinnipiac poll finds that American voters oppose the policy of separating children and parents when families illegally cross the border into America by a wide margin, 66% to 27%.

However, Republican voters support the separation policy 55% to 35%, the only listed party, gender, education, age or racial group to support it.

American voters also support 79% to 15% allowing immigrants who were brought to the U.S. as children, so-called “Dreamers,” to remain and ultimately to apply for citizenship.

A new CNN poll finds 67% of Americans opposed the policy while just 28% approve.

go to the link above for links to the polls

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I cannot.  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:28:03pm

Jesus Christ.

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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:28:06pm

Probably better for my blood pressure right now I’m not watching the presser live. I might have to hit something.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:28:36pm

Didn’t answer the question.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:28:39pm
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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:29:02pm

re: #293 Targetpractice

Probably better for my blood pressure right now I’m not watching the presser live. I might have to hit something.

Same. This filter already has my blood boiling.

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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:29:38pm

re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth

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WHAT THE FUCK?!

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makeitstop  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:29:43pm

Where are the girls?

Neilsen: ‘I don’t know.’

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:29:46pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:29:53pm

re: #63 Ace Rothstein

I got fifty Iraqi dinars that says Huckster doesn’t do the press conference today.

Told ya.

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dangerman  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:30:11pm

re: #292 I cannot.

Jesus Christ.

Nielsen describes critics of separation policy as being responsible for the ‘unraveling of democracy’ because they do not respect the government’s ability to enforce the law.

will somebody please ask which fucking law?

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:30:21pm
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MsJ  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:30:35pm

This fucking bitch is horrific. She is a liar.

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dangerman  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:30:45pm

re: #293 Targetpractice

Probably better for my blood pressure right now I’m not watching the presser live. I might have to hit something.

im about to head for the bourbon

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:30:48pm
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MsJ  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:30:49pm

re: #301 dangerman

will somebody please ask which fucking law?

They just did and she is lying her ass off.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:31:31pm

Oh, and she’s fucking chuckling at the question. OMFG!!!

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MsJ  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:31:48pm

I can’t even listen to this bullshit. I am gone.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:31:51pm
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Jenner7  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:31:52pm

I’m sorry…I am angry. I’m in tears.

With a smug look on her face, she’s lying and has zero compassion.

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dangerman  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:32:02pm

re: #303 MsJ

This fucking bitch is horrific. She is a liar.

she’s obviously taken lessons from some very accomplished ones

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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:32:14pm

If she’s being set up as the scapegoat, it’s obviously not against her will.

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:32:18pm

We’ve been taken over by soulless evil fucking subhuman pond scum.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:32:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:32:30pm
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dangerman  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:32:50pm

re: #306 MsJ

They just did and she is lying her ass off.

thx

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:33:23pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:33:41pm

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:33:43pm

Anyone know who is setting up marches/protests? I’m in.

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makeitstop  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:34:01pm

Had to turn it off. 10 seconds more and I’d have smashed my laptop.

Evil bitch.

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dangerman  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:34:29pm

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

Asked why Trump doesn’t just pick up the phone and change a policy he claims to hate, Nielsen says, “I think what the president is trying to do is find a long-term fix…Congress could fix this tomorrow.”

100% dem senators on board
0% republicans

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ObserverArt  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:34:30pm

re: #303 MsJ

This fucking bitch is horrific. She is a liar.

That’s why she got the job.

And those little half smiles she keeps emoting tell me she likes being in this job and doing what she is doing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:34:53pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:34:56pm

I had to turn it off. I can’t listen to this evil fucking bitch anymore.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:35:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:36:22pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:36:49pm

re: #302 DodgerFan1988

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White first, American second, Christian…last.

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wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:37:31pm

‘We are not turning them away, we are telling them to come back.’

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:38:02pm
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dangerman  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:38:17pm

re: #234 teleskiguy

If they were in federal office or running for reelection they wouldn’t be saying jack shit. Fuck the Republican Party, no quarter.

nielsen is why the above has to be true

you condoned every step of the entire shit show from way back in 2015 to yesterday.
if you are a republican after her performance today you embrace this

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:38:25pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:39:08pm
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:39:23pm

I don’t care about North Korea.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:39:29pm

And Trump has hit 45% approval in the latest Gallup poll.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:39:50pm

re: #281 teleskiguy

Worth noting that she’s John Fucking Kelly’s pick to run DHS - Kelly’s they guy who floated the separation policy over a year ago while he was at DHS.

Also, if you’re gonna send someone to defend Nazi policies, try not sending an Aryan Princess.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:40:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:40:40pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:41:47pm

Tom Carper.
Chris Coons.
Joe Donnelly.
Heidi Heitkamp.
Joe Manchin.
Claire McCaskill.
Bill Nelson.
Jack Reed.
Jon Tester.
Mark Warner.

These are Democratic senators that voted to confirm that fucking ghoul Secretary Nielsen.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:42:51pm

re: #313 teleskiguy

We’ve been taken over by soulless evil fucking subhuman pond scum.

That’s an insult to pond scum. At least pond scum (i.e., algae) has its usefulness to the natural world.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:43:46pm

re: #334 Ace Rothstein

And Trump has hit 45% in the latest Gallup poll.

I suspect that will go lower this week. Lots of folks taken in by Foreign Policy Theater in Singapore.

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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:44:13pm

re: #338 teleskiguy

Tom Carper.
Chris Coons.
Joe Donnelly.
Heidi Heitkamp.
Joe Manchin.
Claire McCaskill.
Bill Nelson.
Jack Reed.
Jon Tester.
Mark Warner.

These are Democratic senators that voted to confirm that fucking ghoul Secretary Nielsen.

*heavy sigh*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:44:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:45:48pm
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:46:09pm

Why aren’t the reporters pointing out that Congress has a GOP majority and they could do this without any Democrats?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:46:36pm

Looked up Stephen Miller’s bio on wikipedia.
I see that he was born in 1985, meaning that I have socks older than he is.
He is an OG disciple of none other than bloody-handed Wayne LaPierre:

Miller became a committed conservative after reading Guns, Crime, and Freedom, a book against gun control by National Rifle Association Chief Executive Officer Wayne LaPierre.

He was also a conservative contrarian brat in high school:

While attending Santa Monica High School, Miller began appearing on conservative talk radio. In 2002, at the age of 16, Miller wrote a letter to the editor of the Santa Monica Outlook, criticizing his school’s response to 9/11 in which he stated that “Osama Bin Laden would feel very welcome at Santa Monica High School.” Miller invited conservative activist David Horowitz to speak, first at the high school and later at Duke University, and afterwards denounced the fact that neither of the centers would authorize the event.

He also had an aversion to Latinos from an early age:

Miller was in the habit of “riling up his fellow [high school] classmates with controversial statements” and telling Latino students to speak only English.

His career follows a now familiar pattern from there. It is a real mind-bender to me that this fascist pissant was still in high school on 9-11, but is now making national policy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:46:44pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:47:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:48:53pm
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:49:49pm

I have to go bake cookies with my girls and get away for a bit. My anger is palpable and I need to calm down.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:49:56pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:50:05pm

Thursday is my birthday. I will be 69 years old, which condemns me to a whole year of living in a sexual innuendo.

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:51:33pm

re: #351 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Thursday is my birthday. I will be 69 years old, which condemns me to a whole year of living in a sexual innuendo.

That’s my dad right now. He’ll be 70 in November. It was his last year teaching high school, he got a lot of mileage out of telling HS kids his age.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:51:36pm

re: #334 Ace Rothstein

And Trump has hit 45% approval in the latest Gallup poll.

This country is smoldering garbage.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:51:58pm

I see by the Twitter reaction of the news folks I follow that they’re pretty much burning Nielsen alive.

Good.

“Meet it is I set it down. That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain.”

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:52:00pm

re: #353 goddamnedfrank

This country is smoldering garbage.

Nah. Worse.

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wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:52:08pm

I wrote a check to the US State Dept. today. To renew my passport. So I can get a driver’s license that doesn’t say ‘NOT FOR FEDERAL PURPOSES’. Because the name on my birth certificate does not have the diminutive ‘ie’ on my first name. My (expired) passport has it. My last driver’s license has it. My Social Security card has it. My library card has it. I can have my birth certificate altered to have it (who knew?). I did sign a statement when I was getting my first license in California to the effect that I am not trying to defraud anyone by putting that ‘ie’ on my name. Not good enough for New Mexico. NM was among the last to comply with the REAL ID act, so they are making up for lost time in hassling people. It was, is, my turn.

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dangerman  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:53:19pm

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nielsen says the idea that this is a deterrent is offensive. “Why would I ever create a policy that purposely does this?”
John Kelly, her mentor, last year: “I am considering, in order to deter more movement along this terribly dangerous network, I am considering exactly that.”

so, motives aside, you did create this policy

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:53:54pm

re: #351 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Thursday is my birthday. I will be 69 years old, which condemns me to a whole year of living in a sexual innuendo.

69 is not innuendo. Innunendo is something else. Completely different position.

(He said, fulfilling the prophecy…)

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:54:01pm

It’s not even four o’clock and I’m three beers deep. And I’m mad. Need to smoke some weed.

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dangerman  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:54:05pm

re: #351 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Thursday is my birthday. I will be 69 years old, which condemns me to a whole year of living in a sexual innuendo.

maybe it does, and maybe it doesnt

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Varek Raith  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:55:03pm

re: #351 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Thursday is my birthday. I will be 69 years old, which condemns me to a whole year of living in a sexual innuendo.

So…
No changes, right?
:P

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:56:27pm

re: #355 teleskiguy

Nah. Worse.

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This country is the Centralia underground fire. It smolders underground for decades, making the entire place smell bad, and occasionally erupts into life threatening blazes.

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Jenner7  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:56:34pm

Sanders and Neilsen won that battle. They steamrolled the press. No real pushback. No calling them on their lies.

This is why they will be re-elected. Our press continues to fail us.

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nines09  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:56:54pm

Well fuck me…..

twitter.com

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:57:21pm

AAARRGGGHHH!
I expected this outburst from noted Lubbock turncoat Todd Klein (former Democratic county chair) but is is still disappointing to see it.

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dangerman  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:57:28pm

im gonna go cook some salmon
and edamame (in pods)
and heat some rice

and drink some bourbon

these fucking people republicans

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MsJ  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:57:44pm

re: #364 nines09

Did you get a timeout (that doesn’t really do anything)?

I did.

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dangerman  Jun 18, 2018 • 2:59:13pm

re: #363 Jenner7

Sanders and Neilsen won that battle. They steamrolled the press. No real pushback. No calling them on their lies.

This is why they will be re-elected. Our press continues to fail us.

the press conference was the usual disappointment
this one time im gonna hold judgement for just a few hours and see what they actually report

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nines09  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:00:33pm

re: #367 MsJ

Can’t speak to anyone who is not a follower. Can’t call dicks, dicks. Lies, lies. And fuckers, fuckers.

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:01:06pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:01:28pm

So, apparently one of the selling points of electric cars is that you can set the regenerative braking so that you mostly don’t have to perform the onerous task of moving your foot to the brake pedal when you want to slow down.

Wow.

I mean, you already don’t have to shift gears, or use a clutch. And now switching pedals is just too much work.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:01:50pm
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Mike Lamb  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:03:47pm

re: #365 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

AAARRGGGHHH!
I expected this outburst from noted Lubbock turncoat Todd Klein (former Democratic county chair) but is is still disappointing to see it.

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So is HE speaking out against family separation? If not, he can fuck right the fuck off.

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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:04:15pm

re: #372 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And the press return to being stenographers.

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BeachDem  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:04:38pm

re: #351 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Thursday is my birthday. I will be 69 years old, which condemns me to a whole year of living in a sexual innuendo.

Being a year older than you, I can say from experience, enjoy it while you can—sexual innuendo is far superior to being totally, officially, fucking OLD at 70.

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nines09  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:05:22pm

re: #351 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Thursday is my birthday. I will be 69 years old, which condemns me to a whole year of living in a sexual innuendo.

Buy the T Shirt. You won’t be there again.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:06:00pm

re: #365 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Todd is apparently shopping for a GOP sugar daddy who will finance his future political campaigns. He lost badly when he ran for mayor a couple of years ago, and blamed inadequate financing compared to his personally wealthy opponent. He did have much better name recognition, though, and my take is that this more than evened things out. I think he lost because voters perceived him as a weasel. His friendship with local fascists and conspira-liars did not help once “somebody” pointed this out to his opponent’s campaign. With any luck he will get together the funding to run for Congress or Governor just as Texas turns blue and drowns his ill-conceived ambition in a Democratic tsunami. He will not be welcome if he tries to re-invent himself yet again and slink back to the Democrats

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Scottish Dragon  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:06:16pm

re: #277 Charles Johnson

Yikes. What an ice queen.

Aryan propaganda poster in the flesh

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:06:19pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:08:10pm

re: #379 teleskiguy

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Ted fears Beto.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:08:42pm

re: #379 teleskiguy

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it will have serious strings attached.
poison pills, if you will…

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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:08:43pm

re: #379 teleskiguy

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“Word’s come down: Manchin crossed the line. All the Dems are onboard with Feinstein’s bill. What do we do?”

“*sigh* Alright, everybody, gather round so we can draw straws to see who walks the plank.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:10:44pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:11:19pm

Just for reference.

Utah 2016 Presidential Election Results:

Donald Trump - 515,231 or 45.5%
Hillary Clinton - 310,676 or 27.5%
Evan McMullin - 243,690 or 21.5%

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electrotek  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:13:02pm

re: #380 wrenchwench

Ted fears Beto.

Good.

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ObserverArt  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:14:47pm

Nielsen walked out while the media still wanted to ask questions.

There is no way she would answer any question she didn’t want to answer, And, she bends the answers the way she wants them to be heard to the questions she took.

If not Nielsen, then it would be some equally monstrous person. That’s no excuse for allowing her the job, just that whoever got the job would still be a Trumper and would still be doing this shit. Or, they’d be gone until they found a person that would take it.

This is still all Trump. He hides behind lies and people like Nielsen. Should he change his mind under pressure, he’ll throw her under the bus.

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dangerman  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:15:16pm

re: #371 Blind Frog Belly White

So, apparently one of the selling points of electric cars is that you can set the regenerative braking so that you mostly don’t have to perform the onerous task of moving your foot to the brake pedal when you want to slow down.

Wow.

I mean, you already don’t have to shift gears, or use a clutch. And now switching pedals is just too much work.

in my life i have owned about 10 sticks
maybe 2 automatics

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:16:17pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:17:51pm

re: #386 ObserverArt

Nielsen walked out while the media still wanted to ask questions.

There is no way she would answer any question she didn’t want to answer, And, she bends the answers the way she want them to be heard to the questions she took.

If not Nielsen, then it would be some equally monstrous person. That’s no excuse for allowing her the job, just that whoever got the job would still be a Trumper and would still be doing this shit. Or, they’d be gone until they found a person that would take it.

This is still all Trump. He hides behind lies and people like Nielsen. Should he change his mind under pressure, he’ll throw her under the bus.

Some of it is Jeff Sessions.

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Mike Lamb  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:18:36pm

re: #388 DodgerFan1988

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So we’re punishing children because of crimes allegedly committed by completely unrelated people?

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wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:20:26pm

re: #390 Mike Lamb

So we’re punishing children because of crimes allegedly committed by completely unrelated people?

All of it is to show that Dreamers deserve nothing. And to prevent future Democrats.

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ObserverArt  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:20:39pm

re: #389 wrenchwench

Some of it is Jeff Sessions.

Oh no doubt. And Miller.

But Trump is the president…the buck resides on his desk.

And to keep in the theme…he’d throw Sessions under the bus as well as Miller if it gets him what he wants and/or takes the heat off him.

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:21:50pm

re: #387 dangerman

in my life i have owned about 10 sticks
maybe 2 automatics

I’ve owned one automatic and three manuals. Manual transmission is a must for me.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:22:47pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:23:16pm

re: #393 teleskiguy

I like to be able to have full control of what my motor and transmission are doing, especially driving in the mountains. That’s just me.

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wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:23:18pm

re: #392 ObserverArt

Oh no doubt. And Miller.

But Trump is the president…the buck resides on his desk.

And to keep in the theme…he’d throw Sessions under the bus as well as Miller if it gets him what he wants and/or takes the heat off him.

Miller told him not to fire Sessions. Sessions told him not to fire Miller. There it sits.

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Varek Raith  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:24:00pm

Something not depressing.

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:25:18pm

re: #397 Varek Raith

That is a very impressive smack.

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Belafon  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:26:13pm

re: #274 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

“Illegal entry is a crime.”

Yeah, a fucking misdemeanor.

It’s not even that if they are seeking asylum.

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b.d.  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:26:37pm

Evening Lizards

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:27:38pm

re: #388 DodgerFan1988

She’s right and all, but she helped formet this madness we all have to live with. Nothing but contempt from me for her, Jonah Goldberg, William Kristol, David Frum, Rick Wilson, et al. until they prove to the world they are no longer members of the Republican Party.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:28:29pm

re: #397 Varek Raith

JFC, has the ball come down yet?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:29:37pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:29:51pm
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makeitstop  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:30:15pm

So, this happened: Top Homeland Security Republican Demands End To Family Separations

The top Republican on the House subcommittee responsible for funding the Department of Homeland Security demanded that the Trump administration end its forced separation of parents and children at the U.S. border, going further than many of his congressional colleagues in his demands.

Rep. Kevin Yoder (R-KS), the chairman of the House Appropriations Committee’s subcommittee on Homeland Security, sent a letter to Attorney General Jeff Sessions calling for him to end the controversial policy.

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:31:50pm

Thank you, @Super70sSports, for the levity on my tire fire of a Twitter feed.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:33:01pm

Right on cue, seeing a lot of right wing memes on Facebook and Twitter justifying imprisoning immigrant children because of Jamiel Shaw, Kate Steinle, etc. These children didn’t kill anyone. What the fuck!

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Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:34:17pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:35:54pm

re: #403 Blind Frog Belly White

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Shorter article: “They won’t show skin at the Miss America Pageant anymore!”

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:36:24pm
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electrotek  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:36:39pm

re: #409 Targetpractice

Shorter article: “They won’t show skin at the Miss America Pageant anymore!”

It’s not like porn has been outlawed…yet….so they can rest easy knowing they can still rub one out at the whim.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:37:16pm

Ha, ha!

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Targetpractice  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:37:29pm

re: #407 DodgerFan1988

Right on cue, seeing a lot of right wing memes on Facebook and Twitter justifying imprisoning immigrant children because of Jamiel Shaw, Kate Steinle, etc. These children didn’t kill anyone. What the fuck!

“Jailing Paul Manafort without trial is a blatant violation of justice, but jailing kids for no crime at all is totally cool!”

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b.d.  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:38:26pm

NBC Nightly News is doing a good job tonight.

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Scottish Dragon  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:40:00pm

re: #388 DodgerFan1988

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Classic Nazi propaganda technique.

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JordanRules  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:44:27pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:44:32pm

Misspelled the verb. Dog ain’t selling anything.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:45:05pm

re: #411 electrotek

It’s not like porn has been outlawed…yet….so they can rest easy knowing they can still rub one out at the whim.

It would be good if we could keep our euphemisms for murder and for masturbation distinct.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:46:07pm

re: #416 JordanRules

Didn’t Austria just get taken over by neo-Nazis?

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:46:40pm

re: #411 electrotek

It’s not like porn has been outlawed…yet….so they can rest easy knowing they can still rub one out at the whim.

And you know the writers at National Review are in to the really weird stuff.

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KGxvi  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:49:01pm

re: #419 Winston_Smith

Didn’t Austria just get taken over by neo-Nazis?

Are they neo or retro Nazis?

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dangerman  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:49:09pm

re: #393 teleskiguy

I’ve owned one automatic and three manuals. Manual transmission is a must for me.

at least 6 of mine were bikes so….
(i’ve lost count)
cars too, including the current spyder and (sniff) past tr-6

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:50:06pm

re: #403 Blind Frog Belly White

Single best representation that “American Institution” is synonymous with “trivial shit that makes white dudes pants-happy.”

I mean, seriously, I dig women in deshabille as much as the next straight, but it’s not some kind of fucking foundation upon which the nation…or fucking anything…rests.

Drama queens.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:50:31pm

re: #418 Blind Frog Belly White

It would be good if we could keep our euphemisms for murder and for masturbation distinct.

“Okay, Sheriff, we’re gonna fuck you now, but we’re gonna fuck you slow.”
- George Carlin

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dangerman  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:50:33pm

re: #395 teleskiguy

I like to be able to have full control of what my motor and transmission are doing, especially driving in the mountains. That’s just me.

i read once in “real men eat quiche” that a “real man” is secure enough to have his gears shifted for him”
i said bullshit then and now
im with you

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Winston_Smith  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:50:55pm

re: #421 KGxvi

Are they neo or retro Nazis?

Both I think.

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:51:35pm

re: #422 dangerman

I’ve never ridden a bike with automatic transmission. That’s a thing, eh? I bet this guy has an automatic Harley. lol

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wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:52:37pm

re: #422 dangerman

at least 6 of mine were bikes so….
(i’ve lost count)
cars too, including the current spyder and (sniff) past tr-6

I explained manual shifting on a bike to a customer this way: ‘Yes, it’s a one speed. So when you want to shift, bring it into the shop and we’ll overhaul the crank and put it back together with a smaller (or larger, if you want a higher gear) front sprocket.’

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:52:45pm

re: #427 teleskiguy

With three wheels.

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KGxvi  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:53:51pm

re: #427 teleskiguy

I’ve never ridden a bike with automatic transmission. That’s a thing, eh? I bet this guy has an automatic Harley. lol

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Honda has them on some of their smaller bikes. Saw them on an old episode of Top Gear, they were in some major city in Asia. Used by a lot of guys delivering food.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:53:56pm

re: #387 dangerman

in my life i have owned about 10 sticks
maybe 2 automatics

Just had my first experience with Mercedes 7 gear paddle shifting. Manual shift, unless something in the car disagrees with you. Weird. I like a real manual.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:55:16pm

re: #430 KGxvi

Honda has them on some of their smaller bikes. Saw them on an old episode of Top Gear, they were in some major city in Asia. Used by a lot of guys delivering food.

The old trail 80’s had auto transmissions I seem to remember. Little learning bike.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:56:20pm

re: #428 wrenchwench

Or sell them one of those Shimano things…
outsideoutfitters.com

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:57:08pm

re: #429 Ace Rothstein

I rode a real Harley-Davidson once years ago, it was my roommate’s, he let me toodle around Steamboat Springs for a couple of hours. Nice bike. I come from a dirt biking background mostly, I used to own a Honda 350 2-stroke that I’d take out on old mining roads around Colorado. I’m seriously considering saving money this summer and winter and maybe buying another dirt bike, maybe a 450 4-stroke.

Then I look at my mountain bicycle, and think about all the places I’ve been on that thing that I could *never* take a dirt bike to.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:57:33pm

re: #405 makeitstop

re: #404 teleskiguy

The GOPers are really feeling the heat on this, even after Faux News and the rest of the lie machine have gotten the base stirred up to defend it.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:57:59pm

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dangerman  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:58:47pm

re: #427 teleskiguy

I’ve never ridden a bike with automatic transmission. That’s a thing, eh? I bet this guy has an automatic Harley. lol

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there were a couple
honda had one in the 80’s
it never really caught on
too complicated

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 18, 2018 • 3:59:17pm

re: #401 teleskiguy

She’s right and all, but she helped formet this madness we all have to live with. Nothing but contempt from me for her, Jonah Goldberg, William Kristol, David Frum, Rick Wilson, et al. until they prove to the world they are no longer members of the Republican Party.

Actually Jennifer Ruben, Joe Scarborough, Max Boot, and Kurt Bardella have all said they left the Republican Party within the last year because of it’s hard right positions. Jonah Goldberg, Bill Kristol, David Frum, and Rick Wilson on the other hand are on board with the Trump Train.

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:00:53pm

re: #438 DodgerFan1988

Well shit, I might actually have to follow Jennifer Rubin on Twitter now.

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wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:00:58pm

re: #433 Unshaken Defiance

Or sell them one of those Shimano things…
outsideoutfitters.com

So complicated. even the guy who cut his bike in half and welded it back together couldn’t fix his own flat.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:01:03pm

re: #428 wrenchwench

I explained manual shifting on a bike to a customer this way: ‘Yes, it’s a one speed. So when you want to shift, bring it into the shop and we’ll overhaul the crank and put it back together with a smaller (or larger, if you want a higher gear) front sprocket.’

My sister who moved to Florida got a beach cruiser bike. Her husband told her she needed at least 5 gears.

For what? It’s FLORIDA.

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wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:02:20pm

re: #441 Blind Frog Belly White

My sister who moved to Florida got a beach cruiser bike. Her husband told her she needed at least 5 gears.

For what? It’s FLORIDA.

Freeway overpasses. From what I hear.

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:02:56pm

My mountain bike has one chain ring on the crank and 12 gears on the cassette. I rarely use the biggest chain ring on the cassette, that’s for hill climbs I like to call “nut busters.”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:04:39pm

re: #431 Unshaken Defiance

Just had my first experience with Mercedes 7 gear paddle shifting. Manual shift, unless something in the car disagrees with you. Weird. I like a real manual.

When I got the Challenger, I got it with an automatic (quicker 0-60! fer real!), mostly because I’d been stuck in traffic crawling up a steep hill too many times in the Subaru I had, and Mrs. FBW was tired of hearing me bitch about it.

The week after I got it, I got what turned out to be sciatica in my right leg. I’d have been in real pain working through 6 gears with a manual!

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:05:05pm
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MsJ  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:05:06pm

re: #439 teleskiguy

Well shit, I might actually have to follow Jennifer Rubin on Twitter now.

Nah. They’ll be right back at it once trump is gone. He’s a symptom, the party is diseased.

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wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:06:26pm

re: #443 teleskiguy

My mountain bike has one chain ring on the crank and 12 gears on the cassette. I rarely use the biggest chain ring on the cassette, that’s for hill climbs I like to call “nut busters.”

I have one customer who wants a slightly lower gear. Nothing is compatible to take one off of his current 5 bikes and put on a (theoretical) new one.

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plansbandc  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:09:13pm

re: #443 teleskiguy

I like to refer to that gear as the tree climbing gear.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:11:18pm

re: #371 Blind Frog Belly White

So, apparently one of the selling points of electric cars is that you can set the regenerative braking so that you mostly don’t have to perform the onerous task of moving your foot to the brake pedal when you want to slow down.

Wow.

I mean, you already don’t have to shift gears, or use a clutch. And now switching pedals is just too much work.

The selling point is the regenerative braking itself. It’s nice to see the estimated range increase at the bottom of a hill and know that you didn’t wear the brake pads down getting there. I set it to max regen but leave “creep” on when driving Dad’s Model S because then it behaves like my Pilot when take the brake off (with the exception of the “hold” that engages if I press the brake down very hard at a stop.)

The only potential problem is that regenerative braking disengages if the battery is at or very close to 100% charge, because there is no alternate dump load for the excess energy, such as you would build into a home wind or hydro power battery storage system to prevent over-spinning the turbine. Tesla could’ve built-in a thermal resistance load to do this but then all that heat has to be dealt with somehow. This plus the extra battery life is why you should only charge to 90% (especially if you’re charging at the top of a big hill) unless you’re going on a long trip and really need the extra range.

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The Major  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:11:50pm

re: #433 Unshaken Defiance

Shimano has an 11-speed beast in that line.

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Jack Burton  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:11:51pm

re: #438 DodgerFan1988

Actually Jennifer Ruben, Joe Scarborough, Max Boot, and Kurt Bardella have all said they left the Republican Party within the last year because of it’s hard right positions. Jonah Goldberg, Bill Kristol, David Frum, and Rick Wilson on the other hand are on board with the Trump Train.

To the best of my knowledge, Jennifer Rubin is the only person on that list that has not tried to pretend like this Von Clownstick neofascist shit came out of nowhere while they weren’t paying attention and a “real” Republican party is out there somewhere still.

She’s the only one that has said she was wrong about just about everything as far as the GOP goes and is telling everyone to vote democratic.

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BeachDem  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:13:01pm

re: #439 teleskiguy

Well shit, I might actually have to follow Jennifer Rubin on Twitter now.

She all but endorsed Beto yesterday:

That is as clear a choice as voters are going to get as to the direction of the country. Are we Cruz’s America, where children are used as pawns to win points with Trump and Cruz’s anti-immigrant base, or are we, as O’Rourke put it, “better than this”?

At this point, O’Rourke is directing his ire primarily at the administration, but he should not be shy about pointing the finger directly at his opponent, who slavishly supports every move the administration makes and has consistently opposed immigration solutions that would have overwhelming bipartisan support. Every parent in Texas (and every decent human being) should understand they are making not just a political choice but a moral one, too.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:13:53pm

re: #443 teleskiguy

My mountain bike has one chain ring on the crank and 12 gears on the cassette. I rarely use the biggest chain ring on the cassette, that’s for hill climbs I like to call “nut busters.”

Okay, so when you’re using the biggest cog in the cassette, how do you not just fall over?

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KGxvi  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:15:43pm

re: #438 DodgerFan1988

Actually Jennifer Ruben, Joe Scarborough, Max Boot, and Kurt Bardella have all said they left the Republican Party within the last year because of it’s hard right positions. Jonah Goldberg, Bill Kristol, David Frum, and Rick Wilson on the other hand are on board with the Trump Train.

Rick Wilson is most definitely not on the Trump Train. He’s written a book called Everything Trump Touches Dies. He’s very anti-Trump.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:16:09pm

re: #446 MsJ

Nah. They’ll be right back at it once trump is gone. He’s a symptom, the party is diseased.

I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Afterall Ariana Huffington, David Brock, and Charles Johnson broke with the Right too.

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wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:17:03pm

re: #452 BeachDem

Every parent in Texas (and every decent human being) should understand they are making not just a political choice but a moral one, too.

Beto is letting others make that case for him. Most mud-free campaign ever, with an opponent asking for it soooo much!

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:17:32pm

re: #454 KGxvi

Rick Wilson is most definitely not on the Trump Train. He’s written a book called Everything Trump Touches Dies. He’s very anti-Trump.

Haven’t read it yet. I gotta check it out.

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Jack Burton  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:19:21pm

re: #444 Blind Frog Belly White

When I got the Challenger, I got it with an automatic (quicker 0-60! fer real!), mostly because I’d been stuck in traffic crawling up a steep hill too many times in the Subaru I had, and Mrs. FBW was tired of hearing me bitch about it.

The week after I got it, I got what turned out to be sciatica in my right leg. I’d have been in real pain working through 6 gears with a manual!

I have a problem with some of the muscles in my left thigh and into my knee that, when the condition flares up makes it impossible for me to operate a clutch. (It make’s it extremely difficult to even walk). So the only way I can have a manual transmission vehicle any more, is if I have another that is automatic as a backup. The last manual transmission car I had I sold in 2002 right after this problem first developed.

If I can keep my truck alive and kicking as a backup, I might have the option open to me again.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:19:26pm

re: #457 DodgerFan1988

Haven’t read it yet. I gotta check it out.

Nobody has except Wilson and the editors. (It’s not out yet).

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:19:57pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:20:17pm

re: #455 DodgerFan1988

I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Afterall Ariana Huffington, David Brock, and Charles Johnson broke with the Right too.

Some skepticism is merited but some of them may be doing what Charles did but the difference was Charles really wasn’t a conservative.

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MsJ  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:21:18pm

re: #455 DodgerFan1988

I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Afterall Ariana Huffington, David Brock, and Charles Johnson broke with the Right too.

But these people didn’t break with the right, they broke from trump. Who’s the symptom. Republicanism is the disease.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:21:42pm

re: #457 DodgerFan1988

Haven’t read it yet. I gotta check it out.

Wilson is definitely legit anti Trump as is Frum and Kristol. I don’t trust Jonah or NRO though especially after I saw a piece by them justifying the detainments and their advising Trump on judges.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:23:06pm

re: #462 MsJ

But these people didn’t break with the right, they broke from trump. Who’s the symptom. Republicanism is the disease.

That’s true but Rubin as we’ve seen is going after Rs in Congress like Cruz and I’ve seen her go after McDonnell and Ryan too. Skepticism though is definitely not only merited but deserved.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:24:13pm

re: #124 HappyWarrior

Be a 22 year old blonde American college girl, pose with an actual gun for your graduation, get invited on all the right wing talk shows, get job offers, adn told that you really “triggered the libs”. Be random children in Syria playing with toy guns, get represented as Hispanic and used as why we shouldn’t let small children into the US. Did I mention how much I loathe the American right wing and want their ideology to crash faster than the Hindenburg?

More proof of White Privilege.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:24:16pm
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KGxvi  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:25:01pm

re: #457 DodgerFan1988

Haven’t read it yet. I gotta check it out.

Hasn’t been released yet, I don’t think. He’s also a regular on Ana Marie Cox’s podcast, said recently he’s basically ready to surrender the health care debate in order to keep the anti-Trump alliance going.

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:25:12pm

Bastard.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:25:24pm

re: #465 Joe Bacon 🌹

More proof of White Privilege.

That young woman is why the term was coined.

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gocart mozart  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:25:49pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:26:16pm

The problem I have with most NeverTrump Republicans is that they don’t realize that the problem is not that somebody ‘took over’ the party. The problem is that the party wasn’t what they thought it was.

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:27:00pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:27:31pm

re: #470 gocart mozart

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“I’ll take ‘The Rapists’ for $400, Alex!”

“Again, Mr. Connery, that’s ‘THERAPISTS’!”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:27:41pm

re: #468 jaunte

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Bastard.

That was haunting.

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:27:50pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:28:10pm

re: #471 Blind Frog Belly White

The problem I have with most NeverTrump Republicans is that they don’t realize that the problem is not that somebody ‘took over’ the party. The problem is that the party wasn’t what they thought it was.

Absolutely agreed with that.

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:28:21pm

re: #474 HappyWarrior

Forcing Republicans to listen to tapes like that is going to have an effect.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:29:00pm

re: #477 jaunte

Forcing Republicans to listen to tapes like that is going to have an effect.

Cruz, Miller, & Trump should have to listen to that every night.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:29:02pm

re: #477 jaunte

Pretty pathetic that it has to come to that to get them to change their minds (not that I believe them).

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:29:11pm

(On the theory that a majority is still not completely depraved.)

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:29:56pm

re: #479 Ace Rothstein

They don’t have to feel bad, just feel that they’re looking bad.

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KGxvi  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:30:34pm

re: #478 HappyWarrior

Cruz, Miller, & Trump should have to listen to that every night.

You’re assuming they would be bothered by it.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:30:53pm

re: #482 KGxvi

You’re assuming they would be bothered by it.

Touché

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MsJ  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:31:27pm

re: #472 jaunte

Fascists. Power hungry fascists.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:31:29pm

re: #478 HappyWarrior

Cruz should have to listen to that every night.

He would probably jerk off to it.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:31:50pm

re: #454 KGxvi

Rick Wilson is most definitely not on the Trump Train. He’s written a book called Everything Trump Touches Dies. He’s very anti-Trump.

Yes, but Wilson still writes fuckery like this:

When you let a closet Democrat like Trump lead the GOP, this is what you get

The problem with people like Rick is that they are immune from introspection. They will never take responsibility for paving the way for Trump and will always project blame onto Democrats for the racist socio-pathology that establishment Republicans condoned and incubated to further their own greed only to lose control of. In their minds Democrats don’t stand for anything because people like Rick never listen to them, so naturally when they see a protean shapeshifting populist monster like Trump actually take over their party and expose the rot at it’s core they call him a Democrat. Because Rick simply cannot allow himself to confront the truth that this is the logical evolution of the conservative movement he was a part of for so long and still internally identifies with.

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KGxvi  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:32:07pm

Meanwhile, in the “I’ll continue to roll in my gas guzzler” file… Teslas are now randomly catching fire.

So they’ve got that going for them, which is nice.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:32:13pm

I’m so frustrated by these smug they should have just followed the law bullshit. From the same people who supported the Bundy Ranch assholes. The same people who are okay with sovereign citizens.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:32:17pm

I learned to drive in a ‘71 VW bus. Loved it. It was the fastest car across the street but once you put it in second gear that was it. Anyway the modern automatics are pretty amazing. I had a 72 Cutlass Supreme with a three speed tranny, but the 2018 Honda Oddysey has a 10 speed auto. They help keep the engine in its optimum power range I guess. Subaru is putting out a bug SUV with a small 4 cylinder turbo, but with an ECV transmission so it stays exactly on its ideal power band.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:32:46pm

re: #486 goddamnedfrank

Yes, but Wilson still writes fuckery like this:

The problem with people like Rick is that they are immune from introspection. They will never take responsibility for paving the way for Trump and will always project blame onto Democrats for the racist socio-pathology that establishment Republicans condoned and incubated to further their own greed only to lose control of. In their minds Democrats don’t stand for anything because people like Rick never listen to them, so naturally when they see a protean shapeshifting populist like Trump actually take over their party and expose the rot at it’s core they call him a Democrat. Because Rick simply cannot allow himself to confront the truth that this is the logical evolution of the conservative movement he was a part of for so long and still internally identifies with.

Absolutely true.

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:33:39pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:34:37pm

re: #485 Ace Rothstein

He would probably jerk off to it.

You know what infuriates me the most about that asshole? His father benefited from a specific policy intended to benefit people of his nationality but nope no introspection or empathy.

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mmmirele  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:34:44pm

OK, I might have my tinfoil hat screwed on entirely too tight, but based on the things I’ve read about Evangelicals going into foreign countries and completely messing up adoption (and rendering some countries closed due to their antics), it’s entirely possible that he’s on to something here.

Again, we might be in tinfoil hat country, but there is such a thing as adoption as evangelism.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:35:20pm

re: #492 HappyWarrior

His father also conspired to kill Kennedy.
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:35:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:35:56pm

re: #491 jaunte

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Still not good enough Ted, you still don’t get it.

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wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:36:30pm

re: #491 jaunte

[NEW: Sen. Ted Cruz is introducing “emergency legislation” to keep immigrant families together after crossing the border.

“All Americans are rightly horrified by the images we are seeing on the news, children in tears pulled away from their mothers and fathers. This must stop.”]

‘…Beto drawing huge crowds in the middle of no where.’

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:37:20pm

re: #496 HappyWarrior

Ted’s worried that his thin Cuban shell is not going to be enough to fool the Rio Grande Valley voters this time.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:38:13pm

re: #498 jaunte

Ted’s worried that his thin Cuban shell is not going to be enough to fool the Rio Grande Valley voters this time.

Yep.

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:38:13pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:38:18pm

re: #491 jaunte

That means Beto is within the margin of error.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:38:19pm

re: #485 Ace Rothstein

He would probably jerk off to it.

I imagine Miller putting it on repeat and tittering like ‘The Gimp’ in “Pulp Fiction”.

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:39:10pm
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Belafon  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:39:14pm

Right now, my priorities are the following:
1. Stop Trump’s policies.
2. Stop Trump.

Whoever is willing to help me with these wont get tazed. Hopefully along the way, some of them will figure out what’s actually worth fighting for.

And I consider the hindrance of anyone willing to help to be an obstacle.

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gocart mozart  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:39:43pm

Let’s see how long it lasts

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:40:52pm

re: #505 gocart mozart

Already corrected. See my #466.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:41:15pm

re: #487 KGxvi

Meanwhile, in the “I’ll continue to roll in my gas guzzler” file… Teslas are now randomly catching fire.

So they’ve got that going for them, which is nice.

Not random.

In this case, the fire clearly breached the battery pack, which makes it look like it was punctured.

The driver says that there wasn’t an accident, but it’s not impossible that the underbody hit something without them knowing it.

Or they knew about it and wrote it off, or lied, or it happened while a valet was driving it. Point is gasoline powered cars catch fire all the time, but every Tesla incident becomes a headline and anecdote overwhelms statistical reality.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:41:57pm
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BeachDem  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:42:02pm

re: #464 HappyWarrior

That’s true but Rubin as we’ve seen is going after Rs in Congress like Cruz and I’ve seen her go after McDonnell and Ryan too. Skepticism though is definitely not only merited but deserved.

I agree, and have been highly skeptical of Jen Rubin (particularly now that Romney has reared his robotic head.) But she has been going after not only Republicans in congress, but Republican policies and stances in general, albeit, attributing them to the “Trump cult” mentality of the party. Not inviting her over for tea and crumpets, but will give her a few points for rational thinking at this point in time.

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plansbandc  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:43:35pm

re: #468 jaunte

This made me physically ill.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:43:54pm

re: #509 BeachDem

I agree, and have been highly skeptical of Jen Rubin (particularly now that Romney has reared his robotic head.) But she has been going after not only Republicans in congress, but Republican policies and stances in general, albeit, attributing them to the “Trump cult” mentality of the party. Not inviting her over for tea and crumpets, but will give her a few points for rational thinking at this point in time.

Yes.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:44:41pm

re: #495 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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This from people who equate Twitter deletion with Stalin’s purges.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:44:50pm

re: #510 plansbandc

This made me physically ill.

I tried listening to the whole thing. I could not. I felt anger, I felt sadness, and I really could hear my own niece’s voice in those children.

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Teukka  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:45:16pm

re: #510 plansbandc

This made me physically ill.

It’s not the first time that stuff like that happens. The first time there is an audio recording of it tho. And it’s mild compared to the other stuff available from camps of similar nature.

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Teukka  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:46:30pm
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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:46:52pm

The reporter then challenged Nielsen on her previous claim that the children are all being well-cared for, saying “how can you make that claim if you don’t know where they are?”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:47:18pm

re: #514 Teukka

It’s not the first time that stuff like that happens. The first time there is an audio recording of it tho. And it’s mild compared to the other stuff available from camps of similar nature.

I think it just hits because it’s one thing to read about it but one thing ot actually hear the chlidren in their own voices. And that asshole Pollak at Breitbart thinks the kids are having fun?!!?!?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:47:19pm
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plansbandc  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:47:45pm

re: #516 jaunte

A follow up question? Holy shit!

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:48:44pm

re: #519 plansbandc

A follow up question? Holy shit!

What’s a follow-up question?
/

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:49:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:49:41pm

re: #518 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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If this doesn’t bring down these bastards, I might seriously think about becoming an ex=pat if another country will take me.

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:49:57pm
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majii  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:50:23pm

re: #496 HappyWarrior “Still not good enough Ted, you still don’t get it.”

His game plan is an old one. He wants to appear to be doing something when his plan is to do absolutely nothing substantive to resolve the issue. He’s totally aware that the optics of this policy doesn’t look good for him, so he’s pretending to be concerned when he doesn’t really give a f*ck what really happens to these families. I remember when the Gang of Eight wrote a bipartisan immigration reform plan, he adamantly opposed it and went as far as to claim the bill provided amnesty for undocumented immigrants when he knew it didn’t. If Cruz is one thing, it’s a self-serving b*st*rd. The best example is the way he’s been sucking up to Trump after Trump insulted his wife’s appearance. Any other man/politician with decent morals who valued his wife, marriage, and family would have never praised Trump for anything for committing that major offense, but Cruz did.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:51:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:51:36pm

re: #524 majii

“Still not good enough Ted, you still don’t get it.”

His game plan is an old one. He wants to appear to be doing something when his plan is to do absolutely nothing substantive to resolve the issue. He’s totally aware that the optics of this policy doesn’t look good for him, so he’s pretending to be concerned when he doesn’t really give a f*ck what really happens to these families. I remember when the Gang of Eight wrote a bipartisan immigration reform plan, he adamantly opposed it and went as far as to claim the bill provided amnesty for undocumented immigrants when he knew it didn’t. If Cruz is one thing, it’s a self-serving b*st*rd. The best example is the way he’s been sucking up to Trump after Trump insulted his wife’s appearance. Any other man/politician with decent morals who valued his wife, marriage, and family would have never praised Trump for anything for committing that major offense, but Cruz did.

He just may be the Senate’s most despicable man.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:52:12pm

I’m going to put on my Hazmat suit and go to Fox News’ Twitter feed to see if the Pro Publica tape is mentioned.

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wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:52:48pm

re: #523 jaunte

[It’s the people who apply the pressure that forms the political will to get the right thing done. Yesterday, more than a thousand strong marching on Tornillo, the people applied that pressure.]

Ted’s feeling it.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:53:04pm

re: #527 Ace Rothstein

I’m going to put on my Hazmat suit and go to Fox News’ Twitter feed to see if the Pro Publica tape is mentioned.

Nah I wager what’s trending there is some obscure lefty said something wacky about Trump or they’re going with what the NRA was whining about yesterday with Wiccans.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:53:29pm

re: #528 wrenchwench

Ted’s feeling it.

Good, that bastard needs to know he’s not the Senator of Wingnuttia.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:53:34pm

re: #527 Ace Rothstein

Nope, not a word. But they did tweet about some redneck wrestling an alligator.

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:53:46pm

“…The idea of separating migrant children from their mothers was discussed during the earliest days of the Trump administration as a way to deter asylum-seekers, according to notes from a closed-door DHS meeting.

Notes from a town hall held for Citizenship and Immigration Services asylum officers on Feb. 2, 2017, show that the agency’s asylum chief, John Lafferty, told the officers they might have to “hold mothers longer” and “hold children in HHR/ORR,” an acronym for facilities for children run by HHS.”

But it’s not a “policy.”

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:55:32pm

re: #453 Blind Frog Belly White

Okay, so when you’re using the biggest cog in the cassette, how do you not just fall over?

Practice practice practice. And also just admit to myself that there are some hill climbs I will never clean.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:55:59pm

re: #532 jaunte

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But it’s not a “policy.”

Which means yet another reason why we shouldn’t show Kelly respect just because he wore an uniform. Jeffrey Dahmer wore a US Army uniform once too.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:56:02pm

I drew a few kindergarten classes while I was substitute teaching. One of these was at the first of the semester, when the kids were limited to half a day for the very good reason that they had not adapted to being away from their parents, and the process had to be introduced slowly. Even half a day was traumatic enough for many of them, the little guys would just burst out crying at times.
Farther back, I can still remember my first day of kindergarten, in the impossibly remote year of 1954. I was confused at the strange adults and did not understand why my mother had sent me away on the bus with kids I did not know. There were windows between the classroom and the adjacent corridors. About 2 hours into the class I saw my mother walk by. She was there to finish up some paperwork, but I naturally thought I was being rescued and it was time to go. I yelled, “there’s my mom!” and tore out after her with my teacher in pursuit. Instead of being glad to see me, my mom was horrified and told me I had to stay a little longer. I was bewildered and started crying.
I can’t even imagine what it is like for the little ones in Trump’s detention camps.

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MsJ  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:57:20pm

re: #525 Unshaken Defiance

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:57:23pm

re: #535 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I drew a few kindergarten classes while I was substitute teaching. One of these was at the first of the semester, when the kids were limited to half a day for the very good reason that they had not adapted to being away from their parents, and the process had to be introduced slowly. Even half a day was traumatic enough for many of them, the little guys would just burst out crying at times.
Farther back, I can still remember my first day of kindergarten, in the impossibly remote year of 1954. I was confused at the strange adults and did not understand why my mother had sent me away on the bus with kids I did not know. There were windows between the classroom and the adjacent corridors. About 2 hours into the class I saw my mother walk by. She was there to finish up some paperwork, but I naturally thought I was being rescued and it was time to go. I yelled, “there’s my mom!” and tore out after her with my teacher in pursuit. Instead of being glad to see me, my mom was horrified and told me I had to stay a little longer. I was bewildered and started crying.
I can’t even imagine what it is like for the little ones in Trump’s detention camps.

I’ve seen how sad my niece gets when my brother’s had to go to work. Hell she was disappointed that I couldn’t join them for a trip to the gym earlier. Being separated from her parents like that? Man I can’t imagine.

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:57:25pm

Another data point about just how insane Republicans have gotten since Fox News began:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:57:31pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:57:56pm

re: #536 MsJ

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She should resign but we know Trump has an even worse person in mind to replace her.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:58:49pm

re: #538 jaunte

Another data point about just how insane Republicans have gotten since Fox News began:

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It’s easy to poison Republican voters. Why? Because Republican voters are the heirs ideologically and mentally of the people who embraced Nazism.

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wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2018 • 4:58:58pm

re: #535 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I drew a few kindergarten classes while I was substitute teaching. One of these was at the first of the semester, when the kids were limited to half a day for the very good reason that they had not adapted to being away from their parents, and the process had to be introduced slowly. Even half a day was traumatic enough for many of them, the little guys would just burst out crying at times.
Farther back, I can still remember my first day of kindergarten, in the impossibly remote year of 1954. I was confused at the strange adults and did not understand why my mother had sent me away on the bus with kids I did not know. There were windows between the classroom and the adjacent corridors. About 2 hours into the class I saw my mother walk by. She was there to finish up some paperwork, but I naturally thought I was being rescued and it was time to go. I yelled, “there’s my mom!” and tore out after her with my teacher in pursuit. Instead of being glad to see me, my mom was horrified and told me I had to stay a little longer. I was bewildered and started crying.
I can’t even imagine what it is like for the little ones in Trump’s detention camps.

My across-the-street buddy and I were proud that we were not among the criers. We had older brothers who had lived through it.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:00:31pm

Yeah, that ought to do it

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:00:35pm

re: #541 HappyWarrior

It’s easy to poison Republican voters. Why? Because Republican voters are the heirs ideologically and mentally of the people who embraced Nazism.

Lets see, murderous dictator with nukes, or pro football player who makes me think about unjust policing of black Americans? I think… what does Trump say today?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:00:59pm

re: #543 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Yeah, that ought to do it

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:01:43pm

re: #544 jaunte

Lets see, murderous dictator with nukes, or pro football player who makes me think about unjust policing of black Americans? I think… what does Trump say today?

Hey the one is good people who just has to be tough because it’s the family business. //

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Winston_Smith  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:01:48pm

re: #525 Unshaken Defiance

You know Trump will just replace her with someone even worse, and the GOP Senate will confirm who ever that may be.

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majii  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:01:48pm

re: #531 Ace Rothstein

“re: #527 Ace Rothstein

Nope, not a word. But they did tweet about some redneck wrestling an alligator.”

They’re waiting for the new RW talking points, but I think they’ll be waiting a while longer because neither Trump, Miller, Kelly, nor Sanders, Sessions, or Neilsen expected their original talking points to be met with majority opposition from American citizens. I’m imagining Trump and the aforementioned others huddled in a room in the WH, coordinating with RW media outlets and major RW blog owners via conference calls working on new talking points. Knowing Trump and the others on the Right, if they had new talking points, Foxers would be on social media spreading them. I even think Trump and the others may be shocked that their talking points didn’t sell the way they thought they would which is why I think there were multiple delays in today’s WH presser.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:01:54pm

Listening to NPR today they reported the detention facilities child concentration camps with Trump as Great Leader images are privately run. 2 Billion a year on detention facilities paid out to private corporations who of course will cut costs, gut the facilities food, water, blankets and environmental controls (if any) and are severely overcharging for it.

We are overpaying private companies to short facilities of needed resources to take care of these human beings.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:02:56pm

re: #547 Winston_Smith

You know Trump will just replace her with someone even worse, and the GOP Senate will confirm who ever that may be.

Call it my domino method. They put them up we take them down. One two three.

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:03:16pm

re: #546 HappyWarrior

Hey the one is good people who just has to be tough because it’s the family business. //

Hey, not everybody gets handed a family gulag full of starving slaves at the age of 26, he must be a special son of a murderer.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:03:30pm

re: #477 jaunte

Forcing Republicans to listen to tapes like that is going to have an effect.

No it won’t. They will just double down on blaming the parents for bringing their “anchor babies” in the first place.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:06:31pm

re: #550 Unshaken Defiance

But a new one will get a media honeymoon while he/she continues Trump’s plan. I prefer to have this one just get destroyed professionally and personally by the media and public first. Maybe then Trump’s goons will realize there is a real downside to implementing this evil man’s wishes.

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:06:40pm

re: #552 DodgerFan1988

As in the case of Kaepernick, they’re pissed about being told they’re in the wrong, and having reality shoved into their faces.

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dangerman  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:07:56pm

re: #484 MsJ

Fascists. Power hungry loathsome evil vile fascists.

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wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:08:17pm

re: #549 Unshaken Defiance

Listening to NPR today they reported the detention facilities child concentration camps with Trump as Great Leader images are privately run. 2 Billion a year on detention facilities paid out to private corporations who of course will cut costs, gut the facilities food, water, blankets and environmental controls (if any) and are severely overcharging for it.

We are overpaying private companies to short facilities of needed resources to take care of these human beings.

I am impressed that NPR reported it. Mara Lie-a-some disappointed me again this morning.

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:10:09pm

Ah, the poison pill.

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:10:16pm
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BeachDem  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:11:01pm

re: #491 jaunte

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John Oliver’s Immigration Courts segment—(at 6:00 he goes into the part about kids, 3 and 4-year-olds being “taught” immigration law.)

Immigration Courts: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:11:03pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:11:04pm

re: #556 wrenchwench

I just listened to the audio tape of the kids crying for their Dad or Mom and the agent joking about the “orchestra” needing a “conductor”. There is no adequate outlet for this kind of frustration and powerlessness.

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lawhawk  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:12:45pm

Newt Fucking Gingrich:

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wrenchwench  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:12:58pm

re: #561 Unshaken Defiance

I just listened to the audio tape of the kids crying for their Dad or Mom and the agent joking about the “orchestra” needing a “conductor”. There is no adequate outlet for this kind of frustration and powerlessness.

Tornillo, TX. They need Beto, or someone, there every Sunday. 24 hour drive.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:13:58pm

Watching Dianne on All In. She is on fire attacking Shittler.

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teleskiguy  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:14:22pm

Monsters among us.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:15:31pm

re: #562 lawhawk

Newt Fucking Gingrich:

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Newt please just go rot away with your flake of a wife. You’re a big part of why our country has declined. You peddle bullshit to people stupider than you while portraying yourself as this great conservative intellectual.

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:16:09pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:16:27pm

re: #532 jaunte

The idea of separating migrant children from their mothers was discussed during the earliest days of the Trump administration as a way to deter asylum-seekers, according to notes from a closed-door DHS meeting.

But it’s not a “policy.”

Trump, Miller and the rest of their gang are literally terrorists. We have to land on them and their depraved base as hard as we can for as long as it takes. The Republican Party is a criminal syndicate and should be abolished. Other parties can take its place.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:16:49pm

re: #567 jaunte

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No, that’s not what the law says. And you fucking liar, it’s not illegal to apply for asylum.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:17:06pm

re: #565 teleskiguy

Monsters among us.

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These same sick freaks will be in church on Sunday bowing down before a Golden Elephant.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:17:40pm

I’m in outta fucks to give to the right wingers I know in my SM:

Let’s clarify a few things here: 1) Applying for asylum is only possible while physically present in the U.S, The administration has in fact made it harder to obtain asylum under A.G. Sessions and many of those people you’ve seen dtained are in fact applying for asylum. In fact thanks to Sessions, it’s no longer possible to apply for asylum citing domestic abuse, 2) Illegal immigration is not a criminal violation, it is a civil violation, please stop treating it as it’s akin to robbing a bank, I would not approve of the government taking your kids from you for a speeding ticket. 3) The administration is very much against legal immigration, please google the RAISE Act introduced by Senators Perdue and Cotton designed to reduce legal immigration, it’s unlikely to pass but it does have the President’s support. 4) Look at your own family story sometime and stop begin so smugly convinced your family did it right. 5) immigrants are not taking your tax money to go on welfare, many in fact are small business owners and immigrants of all types in fact commit crimes at a lower rate than natural born citizens 6) If your family were living in a place with extreme poverty or violence, you’d want to do everything possible to give your and your children a better life. That’s all. Paralegal/bleeding heart rant off but I’m sick about what this s country is becoming on immigration. My own grand uncle was what some people would in a slur call an anchor baby. And what did Uncle Stan do? Well Uncle Stan enlisted in the US Army while many others still saw the wars in Europe and Asia as “their problem”.

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:19:08pm

Too late Tucker, the Italians are already taking over the cities.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:21:26pm

re: #572 jaunte

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Too late Tucker, the Italians are already taking over the cities.

Aw fuck you, Tucker, fascist fuckwaffle. They said the same crap with people the name Carlson but I guess that was different becasue they were whiter than your fat ass.

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BeachDem  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:22:16pm

re: #508 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I made a donation at ActBlue the other day—split among American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), United We Dream Action, Human Rights First, Asylum Seeker Advocacy Project, Kids in Need of Defense (KIND), We Belong Together, La Union Del Pueblo Entero and Womens Refugee Commission.

Have a friend here who’s an immigration lawyer who is leading a task force—I’m holding off on another general donation till I find out if she needs some direct contributions to her work. She is a dynamo!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:22:28pm

re: #572 jaunte

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Too late Tucker, the Italians are already taking over the cities.

Did Fucker KKKarlson remember to take his bedsheets and hood off?

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:22:48pm

re: #573 HappyWarrior

It may be news to conservatives like Tucker and Butcher Bill, but the country has been changing forever since forever.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:22:49pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:23:21pm

re: #574 BeachDem

I made a donation at ActBlue the other day—split among American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), United We Dream Action, Human Rights First, Asylum Seeker Advocacy Project, Kids in Need of Defense (KIND), We Belong Together, La Union Del Pueblo Entero and Womens Refugee Commission.

Have a friend here who’s an immigration lawyer who is leading a task force—I’m holding off on another general donation till I find out if she needs some direct contributions to her work. She is a dynamo!

Well, I replied to Hillary’s appeal today and I tossed $25 to Act Blue!

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fern01  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:24:18pm

re: #438 DodgerFan1988

Actually Jennifer Ruben, Joe Scarborough, Max Boot, and Kurt Bardella have all said they left the Republican Party within the last year because of it’s hard right positions. Jonah Goldberg, Bill Kristol, David Frum, and Rick Wilson on the other hand are on board with the Trump Train.

EVERY time Scarborough and friend say something against trump, they add a Clinton attack as a rider. If Pence replaced trump they would love him forever.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:24:26pm

re: #576 jaunte

It may be news to conservatives like Tucker and Butcher Bill, but the country has been changing forever since forever.

And always will be. IT’s what makes us great.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:25:01pm

re: #579 fern01

EVERY time Scarborough and friend say something against trump, they add a Clinton attack as a rider. If Pence replaced trump they would love him forever.

That right there is why I’m wary of many of them.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:25:40pm

re: #580 HappyWarrior

The first time i went to NYC, I was blown away by how within a few blocks you would go from one culture to another. I fucking loved it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:26:03pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:27:32pm

re: #583 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Has he been fired yet?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:27:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:28:14pm
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Scottish Dragon  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:28:31pm

re: #565 teleskiguy

Monsters among us.

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Make lampshades from their skin? Use their body fat for soap and their hair for pillow ticking? That is where we are at.

This is final solution talk.

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:28:43pm
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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:29:23pm
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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:29:44pm

Note the ‘virtue signaling’ chyron.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:30:35pm

Congresswoman Pramila Jayapa has just announced on MSNBC that there will be a rally in front of the White House on 6/30.

So we know where President KKKopertone will be that Saturday—on the golf course at Mar-A-Lardo

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:32:54pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:34:02pm

re: #582 Ace Rothstein

The first time i went to NYC, I was blown away by how within a few blocks you would go from one culture to another. I fucking loved it.

My friends live in Greenpoint. You’ve got Poles and Puerto Ricans living side by side in harmony.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:34:07pm

re: #589 jaunte

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:34:40pm

re: #589 jaunte

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My interest is caring for immigrants, you fucking fiend. Far more than your interests of policies that only benefit the extremely wealthy and white.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:35:06pm

re: #594 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Tucker gasp may be even worse than Lumpy these days.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:35:40pm

re: #592 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Becaues Rand doesn’t care about your liberty if you’re not white. Same thing with his father. That’s always ben the Pauls’ secret if you really knew what they were about.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:35:44pm
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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:36:09pm

Trump’s main concern is that the photos of kids in cages make him look bad. And all his minions follow suit.
He’s a monster.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:36:38pm

re: #598 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Winston_Smith  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:37:28pm

re: #572 jaunte

That’s really getting close to the 14 words. And Murdoch has two channels putting this shit out every single day. How do you counter that?

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:37:39pm
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MsJ  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:37:49pm

re: #598 Backwoods_Sleuth

Huh? They voted against stopping the trade deal?

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MsJ  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:38:44pm

re: #603 MsJ

Huh? They voted against stopping the trade deal?

Nevermind, I saw the reason.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:38:53pm

re: #603 MsJ

Huh? They voted against stopping the trade deal?

See my #600

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:38:54pm

This is how I responded to Chelsea

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:40:06pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:40:49pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:41:53pm

re: #602 jaunte

I hate to think that this policy will still be in effect on June 30th. As awful as Republicans are, they must know that this isn’t a winning policy. The longer it’s in effect, the more damage it will do to their party. Congressional Republicans would do well to pass something this week to end it.

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:42:31pm

re: #608 Charles Johnson

With the Prophet Nehemiah Scudder waiting in the wings.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:42:43pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:43:16pm

re: #609 Patricia Kayden

When you engage in terrorism, the goal is to maximize the suffering.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:43:26pm

re: #611 Backwoods_Sleuth

Another useless politician.

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:43:43pm

re: #609 Patricia Kayden

I hope they do, but based on their history (and Ted Cruz’ first attempt) anything they come up with is going to be a sham.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:44:17pm
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Teukka  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:44:23pm

re: #611 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:45:18pm
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fern01  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:45:23pm

re: #611 Backwoods_Sleuth

99% of responses telling (not asking) her to sign onto the dem bill.

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BeachDem  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:45:45pm

re: #583 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I still don’t even get why congress needs chaplains in the first place. OK—military chaplains I understand—they’re often in remote places; prison chaplains, good deal. But fucking congress? They only “work” about 3 days a week, and they’re within blocks of any number of churches etc. Why the fuck do they need chaplains?

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:45:52pm

re: #609 Patricia Kayden

Let’s say they do. Do you think Trump would veto it? And if he did, do you think there would be 2/3 in each to override it?

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Chrysicat  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:45:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:46:05pm
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fern01  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:47:13pm

re: #622 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pure evil. Just as he campaigned.

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Chrysicat  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:47:35pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:47:59pm

re: #615 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fine, shut it down. Lets add a general strike. Shut it all down

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makeitstop  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:49:17pm

re: #529 HappyWarrior

Nah I wager what’s trending there is some obscure lefty said something wacky about Trump or they’re going with what the NRA was whining about yesterday with Wiccans.

Hey, Tucker’s almost on. Don’t rule out sinister yet cute animals.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:49:18pm

re: #615 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looks weak? He thinks these images of kids in kennels makes him look good?

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Belafon  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:49:50pm

re: #607 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It sound like DHS is resembling SHIELD in Winter Soldier. It’s near time for the employees to decide which side they are on.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:51:09pm
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MsJ  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:52:06pm

re: #625 Unshaken Defiance

Fine, shut it down. Lets add a general strike. Shut it all down

If it stops CBP green stealing children, shut or down. Shut it down now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:52:30pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:53:49pm

re: #628 Belafon

It sound like DHS is resembling SHIELD in Winter Soldier. It’s near time for the employees to decide which side they are on.

You know, a grass roots “tell your agent-neighbor” to stay home, blue flu because they are being given immoral arguably illegal orders thing might help. Peer pressure cubed. If they stay with the program, shame and exclude them. Family, friends, spouses. Some things are bigger than any of our relationships.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:55:01pm

re: #583 Backwoods_Sleuth

Isn’t that the kind of talk that got the House Chaplain fired by Paul Ryan? Pastor Black may be risking his job. Good.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:57:17pm

re: #620 Ace Rothstein

Let’s say they do. Do you think Trump would veto it? And if he did, do you think there would be 2/3 in each to override it?

Great questions. I never thought about Trump vetoing it but that would be a strong possibility. Sigh.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:57:22pm

re: #631 Backwoods_Sleuth

How much you want to bet that photo is a fake?

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Belafon  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:58:39pm

re: #635 Ace Rothstein

How much you want to bet that photo is a fake?

All the kids look really mature for their age.

But, yeah, fake.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 5:59:42pm

re: #631 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That was wrong too. Fuck off Mike.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:00:48pm

re: #631 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t see any children, or context.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:01:44pm

re: #635 Ace Rothstein

How much you want to bet that photo is a fake?

re: #636 Belafon

All the kids look really mature for their age.

But, yeah, fake.

They probably aren’t fake, but it’s dishonest to conflate adults with children.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:03:15pm

re: #638 Single-handed sailor

I don’t see any children, or context.

Obama!

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Teukka  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:03:46pm
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Winston_Smith  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:03:49pm

re: #638 Single-handed sailor

I don’t see any children, or context.

Look up who Brandon Darby is. He apparently did a picture dump today on the wingnut Twichy site.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:04:54pm
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Archangelus  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:05:19pm
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Archangelus  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:06:35pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:07:10pm

re: #631 Backwoods_Sleuth

There was no policy of family separation in 2014. Huckabee is a liar and an idiot.

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Teukka  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:11:05pm

Trigger warning.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:11:48pm

re: #644 Archangelus

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Teukka  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:13:35pm

re: #647 Teukka

Trigger warning.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:14:58pm
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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:15:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:16:52pm

re: #651 jaunte

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The Nuremberg Laws were passed by a legislature too.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:16:57pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:18:41pm

re: #615 Backwoods_Sleuth

Let’s see him shut down the government to defend this atrocity then. He is holding children hostage to pay for his stupid wall. Dems should uniformly reject this blatant blackmail.

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plansbandc  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:19:20pm

Defending the indefensible with a shitty meme…

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:23:11pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:27:00pm

Speaking of the proximity of father’s day and my birthday:

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:27:06pm

re: #572 jaunte

So the U.S. only belongs to Whites? Is that what Tucker is saying? And then they wonder why Blacks don’t vote for Republicans.

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:27:44pm

re: #658 Patricia Kayden

Exactly.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:27:50pm

re: #627 Ace Rothstein

Looks weak? He thinks these images of kids in kennels makes him look good?

Trump must have asked Kim for hints and tips on how to be as strong and popular as Kim is with North Koreans.

HI LIZARDS IN NEW YORK! I’M IN BROOKLYN. IT’S FREAKING HOT HERE.

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:28:18pm
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Winston_Smith  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:28:24pm

re: #658 Patricia Kayden

So the U.S. only belongs to Whites? Is that what Tucker is saying? And then they wonder why Blacks don’t vote for Republicans.

Those are the 14 words. Google it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:29:00pm

re: #658 Patricia Kayden

So the U.S. only belongs to Whites? Is that what Tucker is saying? And then they wonder why Blacks don’t vote for Republicans.

You would think these fucking RepubliKKKlans would have learned their lesson when Pete Wilson effectively killed the GOP in California. Nope. They’re taking that nationwide.

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:30:12pm
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Belafon  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:31:16pm
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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:31:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:32:05pm

re: #663 Joe Bacon 🌹

You would think these fucking RepubliKKKlans would have learned their lesson when Pete Wilson effectively killed the GOP in California. Nope. They’re taking that nationwide.

Well look what it got them last time. Don’t understimate how bigoted conservative whites can be.

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Belafon  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:33:37pm

re: #663 Joe Bacon 🌹

You would think these fucking RepubliKKKlans would have learned their lesson when Pete Wilson effectively killed the GOP in California. Nope. They’re taking that nationwide.

I’m hoping this further energizes Latinos here in Texas to register and vote.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:34:34pm

re: #668 Belafon

I’m hoping this further energizes Latinos here in Texas to register and vote.

I’m hoping Latinos are why Texas becomes Purple and puts the fear of electoral extinction into the GOP. Plus you’ll get more Hispanic restaurants too. Win win.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:35:35pm

re: #666 jaunte

Fine. She self identifies with the Presidents policy. Maybe not today, but one day well Buh Bye Now.

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jaunte  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:36:26pm

Nielsen gets comment 666.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:39:16pm
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Chrysicat  Jun 18, 2018 • 6:59:34pm

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