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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:18:50pm

Secret Service recruiting ad at top of page. Never seen one of theirs before.

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:30:32pm

A wildfire broke out near the ski area I work at. Fuck!

Facebook Post

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:38:29pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:44:00pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:44:57pm

re: #2 teleskiguy

Good news.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:49:15pm

SPACE FORCE

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the image is a couple years old

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MsJ  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:50:45pm

So I turned in an episode of The Orville a bit ago. Mid episode. I have to say, the acting is horrible, like over the top bad.

How did this get good ratings?

Is it supposed to be bad like this?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:51:13pm

re: #6 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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the image is a couple years old

I guess you can’t embed images from Facebook anymore
Or, at least that one

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:52:35pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:54:26pm

re: #6 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

re: #8 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

SPACE FORCE

Image: nick-foreman-overwatch.jpg

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:54:51pm

Came home from the gym tonight. Waiting for the bus. I get on and there is a guy in a wheelchair coated with Trump stickers and he has his MAGA hat on.

He’s a double amputee, both legs amputated below the knee.

Yelling about how he loves his President.

Complaining about…you guessed it…all them Mexicans crossing the border to get on welfare.

“I loves my President cause he stands up for white people”.

I couldn’t resist it. I gladly reminded Wheelchair Wimpy that the House just voted to cut Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.

“They ain’t gonna cut my check! I earned my check. Republicans will just kick them Mexicans off off welfare and I’ll be better off”.

My reply, “When your check is cut, remember that I warned you…” and I got off of the bus.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:55:17pm

re: #7 MsJ

So I turned in an episode of The Orville a bit ago. Mid episode. I have to say, the acting is horrible, like over the top bad.

How did this get good ratings?

Is it supposed to be bad like this?

Yes. That’s the point. And I think the show is hilarious. :D

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MsJ  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:56:00pm
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MsJ  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:58:06pm

re: #12 GlutenFreeJesus

Yes. That’s the point. And I think the show is hilarious. :D

I missed the hilarious part. 😂

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:58:57pm

Oh shit. RIP Vinnie Paul!

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 22, 2018 • 9:59:09pm

I used my bug taser over my desk. Now I have bug parts in my beer. Oh well, bottoms up.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:01:23pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

One of his best stories was after the Dallas Stars won the Stanley Cup (all the Pantera guys were huge hockey fans), they had a huge party with it and the next morning the Cup was at the bottom of Vinnie’s pool.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:01:43pm

re: #16 Single-handed sailor

Hey, bugs are high in protein.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:03:08pm

Hung on the last thread:

Instead of ‘Death to America,’ Iran is now just posting photos of migrant children in U.S. cages (goes to The Week).

Good job, conservatives.

(Press TV is an Iranian press outlet)

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:03:26pm

Evangelicals support him!

re: #18 I cannot.

Even if they’re not I’m not going to waste good beer.

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:05:21pm

re: #15 teleskiguy

He was only 54. ☹️

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:06:14pm

re: #17 Ace Rothstein

One of his best stories was after the Dallas Stars won the Stanley Cup (all the Pantera guys were huge hockey fans), they had a huge party with it and the next morning the Cup was at the bottom of Vinnie’s pool.

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:09:28pm

I saw Pantera play live only once, on their “Reinventing The Steel” tour. Glad I did! That was a fun rowdy night. Slayer opened.

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austin_blue  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:10:26pm

Reloaded from downstairs:

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Texas Tech Frat Members Call For Hunting Immigrants In Racist Group Chat.>>

In1984 I was working offshore with a guy from Tyler, Texas who had a copy, in his wallet, of “Nigger Toe Tags”, which could be used to cart off the bodies of legally shot humans.

He was just HAHAHAHA!

I told him that if I ever saw him again, I would toss him into the Gulf of Mexico, and I made sure he understood that I was completely serious. He seemed to think that since I was ex-military that I would be “So cool! Where can I get one!”.

I talked to the Company Man and he was off the rig the next morning. I stood on the helipad and gave him the one finger salute as he left. I hope that sonofabitch has since died of ball cancer.

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:12:48pm

Dude was an animal behind the kit.

Death Rattle

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Dave In Austin  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:14:00pm

Still whacked…..

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wheat-dogg  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:16:29pm

For some reason, I am amused at this exchange.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:17:33pm

re: #26 Dave In Austin

Still whacked…..

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Probably nearly OD’d on something he took voluntarily.

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austin_blue  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:19:05pm

re: #26 Dave In Austin

Still whacked…..

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There’s an n and and an a missing from that post, but what in the holy hell is going on with John McAfee?

Should he be in mental care?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:19:15pm

re: #20 Single-handed sailor

Evangelicals support him!

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Even if they’re not I’m not going to waste good beer.

Blessed is He who Comes in the Name of The Lawd!

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:19:54pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:22:40pm

reuters.com

Canada Could Make It Harder for the US to Win Fighter Jet Bid

Canada is considering whether to penalize companies from countries that have caused it economic damage, the sources said on Wednesday. While a final decision is not expected before next year and the threat could be posturing, the move shows how the Trump administration’s trade disputes are spilling over into other areas.

A spokeswoman for federal Procurement Minister Carla Qualtrough - who has overall responsibility for major purchases of military equipment - declined to comment. Sources declined to be identified as the discussions are confidential.

Boeing Co’s (BA.N) F-18 Super Hornet and Lockheed Martin Corp’s (LMT.N) F-35 fighter were among the favorites to capture the contract to supply 88 planes, worth between C$15 billion ($11.3 billion) and C$19 billion.

Defense sources have long said the Canadian air force would prefer an American-built jet, citing the importance of operating easily with U.S. armed forces.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:24:46pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:34:07pm
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BigPapa  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:34:13pm

This Tom Arnold action is sorta off. I wanna see something before I give a hoot.

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:36:52pm

re: #35 BigPapa

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austin_blue  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:38:04pm

re: #31 Single-handed sailor

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Goodness! Remember when the Hawaiian volcano was a thing? That was a huge story just a while ago!

Life comes at you fast and Drumpf ensures that the news is all about him. I remember that Puerto Rico was a story a while back and that 15% of the island, occupied by American citizens, still doesn’t have electricity nine months after the hurricane hit it. What happened to that fucked up response?

Oh, right, the border crisis.

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:41:51pm

re: #37 austin_blue

I’m waiting for Michael Cohen to turn state’s evidence. That’ll be fun.

But who knows. The summer is young. Whole communities in Colorado might get taken out in wildfires. Then Fuckface Von Clownstick might declare war on North Korea. Long hot fuckin’ summer we’re in for.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:43:45pm

re: #38 teleskiguy

He’s as likely to declare war on North Dakota as North Korea…so a 50/50 chance that one of those gets invaded.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:46:36pm

From the previous thread:

re: #415 fern01

I’m more shocked that minority members of the GOP exist. What are they expecting from the party of trump?

The party was precisely the same before Trump. He just ripped away the dog whistle.

I don’t understand why people like Michael Steele thought his party gave a damn about him. Perhaps on some level he didn’t, but “muh tax cuts” mean more than anything anyone else might want (the long-standing “I got mine FU”).

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:46:59pm

re: #39 I cannot.

Nah. North Dakota has too many of his people.

2016 Presidential Election Results, North Dakota:

Donald Trump: 216,794 or 63%
Hillary Clinton: 93,758 or 27.2%
Gary Johnson: 21,434 or 6.2%

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:48:31pm

re: #38 teleskiguy

I’m waiting for Michael Cohen to turn state’s evidence. That’ll be fun.

But who knows. The summer is young. Whole communities in Colorado might get taken out in wildfires. Then Fuckface Von Clownstick might declare war on North Korea. Long hot fuckin’ summer we’re in for.

We bailed my wife’s computer out of the shop today (power supply went kablooie). Coming home from Scottsbluff, we went through thirty miles of hail.

It’s considerably cooler up here than it is just a few miles south in Colorado. It was friggin hot in Colorado Springs yesterday.

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BigPapa  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:50:03pm

Tom Arnold is only the third weirdest thing today. There is a new gov re-org plan that’s a libertarian fantasy and Trump is autographing pictures of dead people.

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:50:36pm

13 days from now is the first of a three night stand at Red Rocks of my favorite traveling rock ‘n’ roll circus Umphrey’s McGee.

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:52:19pm

re: #42 Anymouse 🌹

It was in the low 90s at the golf course today. A fire broke out near the ski area I work at, it’s at 40 acres now and a Type 3 fire crew will be on the scene in the morning.

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fern01  Jun 22, 2018 • 10:52:27pm

re: #13 MsJ

Attorneys for former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort want a judge to bar any mention of Manafort’s connections to the president at his Virginia trial. In court papers, Manafort’s lawyers argue that because Manafort’s alleged crimes occurred before he ever served on President Trump’s campaign, any mention of Manafort’s connections to Mr. Trump are irrelevant.

What hold has trump on these people that they want to protect him. Is this how they ask for a pardon?

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austin_blue  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:00:55pm

re: #38 teleskiguy

I’m waiting for Michael Cohen to turn state’s evidence. That’ll be fun.

But who knows. The summer is young. Whole communities in Colorado might get taken out in wildfires. Then Fuckface Von Clownstick might declare war on North Korea. Long hot fuckin’ summer we’re in for.

Yup. It probably won’t be as bad as 2011 (92 days above 100, 62 days at 103 or higher, capping at 115) but it’s going to be a bear.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:03:51pm

re: #18 I cannot.

Hey, bugs are high in protein.

News from Lubbock:
Restaurant Report: Local restaurant closed due to roach infestation
To save a lengthy scroll through inspection summaries, the shuttered roach resort is the Popeye’s at 5102 Slide Road. The resident bugs have been given the death sentence in the form of a Health Department order for a thorough cleaning and treatment by licensed Dakeks exterminators before the place can be re-opened.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:08:17pm

re: #45 teleskiguy

It was in the low 90s at the golf course today. A fire broke out near the ski area I work at, it’s at 40 acres now and a Type 3 fire crew will be on the scene in the morning.

Yikes.

The last time we were in Denver, I got lost and wound up on a road in Commerce City that dead-ended into E-470. I was trying to puzzle out the tolling system, decided I didn’t want to take a risk from the cops over electronic tolling when I don’t have such a box (and really didn’t understand their license plate tolling), and wasted a bunch of time trying to work my way back around on Denver’s surface streets.

I queried the toll road commission about how the turnpike’s license plate tolling works. All they would tell me in about six E-mails is they would rather I buy a tolling pass. I might use a toll road in Colorado once every three years so I finally cut off that frustrating conversation.

This time, coming back from Colorado Springs last night, I decided to take E-470 from I-25 to I-76. (At noon going south I-25 was a Dumpster fire of stop-and-go traffic.) The road was mostly empty (which was soothing to my nerves driving I-25 south then north). No one arrested me with my out-of-state tag, so I guess I am okay.

Their Website says they will mail a bill for the toll, but I wonder how much they lose out in tolling on the turnpike from states which will not share DMV information (such as Massachusetts), people with obscured or missing license plates (there were several cars on the turnpike with either no tags or temporary tags in the windows), &c.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:10:47pm

re: #48 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Our community blog has a weekly list of restaurant closures due to health violations.

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austin_blue  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:11:08pm

re: #48 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

News from Lubbock:
Restaurant Report: Local restaurant closed due to roach infestation
To save a lengthy scroll through inspection summaries, the shuttered roach resort is the Popeye’s at 5102 Slide Road. The resident bugs have been given the death sentence in the form of a Health Department order for a thorough cleaning and treatment by licensed Dakeks exterminators before the place can be re-opened.

Shocked, shocked that the Slide contained a roach coach restaurant! Late night dining usually assumes extra protein in the wings.

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austin_blue  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:13:11pm

I’m out. Sweet dreams. See you in the ‘morrow.

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:17:06pm

re: #49 Anymouse 🌹

I’ve driven E-470 exactly once because I was driving a buddy of mine to DIA and we were running super late. This was from southeast Denver metro, the OG E-470 that’s been there for decades now. My buddy made the flight, needless to say. If I recall it was seven dollars? I don’t know, this was way earlier in this decade, when I lived in Denver.

Just went to the E470 website. If they are diligent (which I’m sure they are) you will be billed $17.30.

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allegro  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:18:18pm

re: #46 fern01

What hold has trump on these people that they want to protect him. Is this how they ask for a pardon?

I read that and thought Manafort isn’t wanting Trump’s stink on him to negatively impact the jury. Hadn’t even occurred to me that he was making that request to protect Trump. Huh.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:25:02pm

re: #53 teleskiguy

I’ve driven E-470 exactly once because I was driving a buddy of mine to DIA and we were running super late. This was from southeast Denver metro, the OG E-470 that’s been there for decades now. My buddy made the flight, needless to say. If I recall it was seven dollars? I don’t know, this was way earlier in this decade, when I lived in Denver.

Just went to the E470 website. If they are diligent (which I’m sure they are) you will be billed $17.30.

I’m looking at the toll rate table now. Sections A and C are $4.15 and sections B and D are $4.50.

With the thousands of different types of license plates in North America, could they all be programmed into their computers? Then there’s the issue of folk around the Air Force Academy who have European tags (I had Spanish plates on my car for several months after I came back from Spain).

It seems to me in the rush to embrace technology (to get rid of toll collectors - wages), they are missing a lot of tolls. Perhaps I just am not up to speed on modern technology though.

(I live in an area where the computer shop doesn’t take credit cards … cash, cheque, or money orders only.)

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:26:33pm

re: #55 Anymouse 🌹

You might be right.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:28:47pm

Republican prankster booted from Texas Democratic convention
The “prankster” was State Rep Briscoe Cain, R-Deer Park, and his “prank” involved carrying a gun into the venue. He and a co-conspirator, a paid stooge consultant, also tried to pass out fake yard signs reading “This home is a gun-free safe space.” He and the stooge came back after being thrown out once, at which point they were questioned by Fort Worth police. Unfortunately they were not arrested.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:30:31pm

re: #56 teleskiguy

You might be right.

My own plates are extremely rare in Nebraska. (That doesn’t mean the toll road commission doesn’t know what they are though.)

The Website says it takes a picture of the front and back of your car to determine your registration. Presumably from a state with no front plate, the front picture is useless. If the rear picture was blurred or obscured (even if the plate is not obscured), that would be another toll missed.

Plus I wonder how many mis-tolls they’ve done (the computer recognized the registration number wrong), causing a bill to be sent to the wrong person? That would be a headache to fix.

Someone made a bunch of money on those cameras and computers though.

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:32:37pm

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹

It’s been almost a decade since I drove that road. How was the road surface?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:33:34pm

Incidentally, this is the mighty Republican protest warrior and alpha male Briscoe Cain, for real:

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:34:06pm

There is electronic tolling on the Tri-State Tollway (I-294) in Chicago, which they’ve had for many years. Those tolling plazas also have people who accept cash (just not very many).

Going to visit my mother, I use I-294 to get to her house in NW Chicago. They don’t miss any tolls from me.

We’ll see if I get a bill from Colorado. Maybe I am just overthinking this.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:35:45pm

re: #60 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Incidentally, this is the mighty Republican protest warrior and alpha male Briscoe Cain, for real:

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He looks like he’s 12 years old.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:36:40pm

re: #59 teleskiguy

It’s been almost a decade since I drove that road. How was the road surface?

It was quite smooth. They keep it in good shape apparently; no potholes (even patched ones), &c.

I-76 rides rougher than our dirt streets though all the way from Denver to Sterling. US-138 in Sterling is even worse. (I was glad to get on C-113 going to Sidney; that two-lane road was better than anything except E-470 in Colorado).

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:37:55pm

re: #60 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Incidentally, this is the mighty Republican protest warrior and alpha male Briscoe Cain, for real:

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I guess you have to start ‘em young.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:38:50pm

re: #62 wheat-dogg

He looks like he’s 12 years old.

I was going to guess 13, and dressed for his first rodeo.

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:40:09pm

re: #63 Anymouse 🌹

I’m thinking that whatever cracks there are in E470’s toll methods, it’s still a pristine stretch of pavement that’s empty most of the time. They’re getting their money, even if some slips through the cracks like you describe.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:41:30pm

This piece of shit Trump supporter will still vote for him despite losing hundreds of thousands due to Trump’s tariffs because he’ll blame it all on “illegal immigrants.”

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:41:59pm

I said “cracks” twice in my last comment.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:48:07pm

Plenty of conservaderp and foreign trolling on this thread.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:54:16pm

re: #20 Single-handed sailor

Evangelicals support him!

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Even if they’re not I’m not going to waste good beer.

Yeah, in a state with no personal income tax, he wants to get rid of the commerce tax and yet push for better education. Are people delusional?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:57:41pm

reuters.com

Pentagon cancels more joint exercises with South Korea to comply with Trump’s giveaway agreement with North Korea.

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teleskiguy  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:57:52pm

Good fuckin’ drummin’.

Heresy (Remastered)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:58:12pm

re: #65 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I was going to guess 13, and dressed for his first rodeo.

He’s 34 for the record. He’s also an all around dick apparently:

“On March 13th, 2018, Cain tweeted about the death of prominent physicist Stephen Hawking. In his tweet, he stated “Stephen Hawking now knows the truth about how the universe was actually made. My condolences to his family.” The tweet was largely perceived to be insensitive and was criticized by legislators on both sides of the aisle.”

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Kilroy was here  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:58:43pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:58:54pm

re: #70 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Yeah, in a state with no personal income tax, he wants to get rid of the commerce tax and yet push for better education. Are people delusional?

The commerce tax would affect his brothels personally. That’s all that matters to a conservative.

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Targetpractice  Jun 22, 2018 • 11:59:18pm

re: #67 DodgerFan1988

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This piece of shit Trump supporter will still vote for him despite losing hundreds of thousands due to Trump’s tariffs because he’ll blame it all on “illegal immigrants.”

Of course. The ones who have the money figure these tariffs won’t hurt them, while the ones who don’t will be told that the rising costs have nothing to do with the tariffs and everything to do with “them illegals” suppressing wage growth by taking “good jobs” and getting paid under the table.

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Targetpractice  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:00:01am

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

reuters.com

Pentagon cancels more joint exercises with South Korea to comply with Trump’s giveaway agreement with North Korea.

Beijing must be laughing their asses off right about now.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:01:34am

re: #45 teleskiguy

It was in the low 90s at the golf course today. A fire broke out near the ski area I work at, it’s at 40 acres now and a Type 3 fire crew will be on the scene in the morning.

How far away is that from Marble?

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teleskiguy  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:03:44am

re: #78 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

How far away is that from Marble?

Next river valley over, a good 25 miles as the crow flies. Marble is nowhere near this fire.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:05:28am

re: #67 DodgerFan1988

This piece of shit Trump supporter will still vote for him despite losing hundreds of thousands due to Trump’s tariffs because he’ll blame it all on “illegal immigrants.”

I was listening to NPR in the car the other day. They were talking about how lobster pots used to be made from wood, but are now primarily made from aluminum and steel wire, because those hold up better.

China has imposed tariffs on imported American lobster, so there’s one hit to the industry.

Another: They were interviewing the largest lobster pot manufacturer in the USA, who has a virtual monopoly on the industry here. He is worried about tariffs increasing his products for lobster fishermen so much they will purchase less and thus hurt his business. He noted companies and people who buy aluminum and steel are busy trying to buy as much as they can now before those tariffs go into effect.

He also noted the tariffs apply to raw materials, not finished products. As such, a French company is moving to try to put him out of business by importing finished lobster pots. (The company didn’t make them before.)

Yes, he still supports Trump.

His solution: He says he’s praying every night this will work out so he doesn’t have to lay off his twenty or so workers and shutter his business.

Such people seem to be unreachable. Clutching their Cheeto Messiah and praying doesn’t seem to be a good business plan.

It is the “both siderists” that need to be reached, and those who sit out elections thinking the government doesn’t affect them.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:08:11am

re: #62 wheat-dogg

He looks like he’s 12 years old.

With a middle aged gut

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:09:18am

re: #70 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Yeah, in a state with no personal income tax, he wants to get rid of the commerce tax and yet push for better education. Are people delusional?

Yes, yes they are.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:11:33am
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:12:43am

re: #76 Targetpractice

Of course. The ones who have the money figure these tariffs won’t hurt them, while the ones who don’t will be told that the rising costs have nothing to do with the tariffs and everything to do with “them illegals” suppressing wage growth by taking “good jobs” and getting paid under the table.

And in the meantime, crops will rot in the fields because the work is too hard and pays too little for real ‘Muricans and people will bitch about the price of food going up.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:13:52am

re: #79 teleskiguy

Next river valley over, a good 25 miles as the crow flies. Marble is nowhere near this fire.

Thanks. Got family in Marble.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:17:53am

re: #84 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

And in the meantime, crops will rot in the fields because the work is too hard and pays too little for real ‘Muricans and people will bitch about the price of food going up.

A couple years ago when Alabama passed its version of Arizona’s “papers please” law, tomato farmers wound up plowing under their crops, because even offering $50 an hour they could not get people into the fields to pick tomatoes.

It turns out if you have a regular job somewhere, you’re not going to quit it for a three-week season in the fields, even at $50. Migrant farm workers are migrants precisely because they travel across the country for different harvest seasons. You can’t have an office job or something and also be a farm worker. Capitalism doesn’t work that way.

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teleskiguy  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:18:53am

re: #85 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Thanks. Got family in Marble.

Slow Groovin’ BBQ is a gem of weird Colorado restaurants.

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unproven innocence  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:19:34am

re: #71 Anymouse 🌹

reuters.com

Pentagon cancels more joint exercises with South Korea to comply with Trump’s giveaway agreement with North Korea.

My recollection is that the first hard news about a decision to cancel joint military exercises with SK came from the lips of Resident Putin Handupme within an hour so after the signing ceremony —not even mentioned in any formal “agreement”.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:20:20am

re: #87 teleskiguy

Slow Groovin’ BBQ is a gem of weird Colorado restaurants.

Man I wish I could send y’all some of our rain. We’re drowning here. About the only people who are enjoying it are hay farmers (they are mowing like crazy around here).

That will hurt them later in the season, when the price of hay plunges.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:20:48am

re: #87 teleskiguy

Slow Groovin’ BBQ is a gem of weird Colorado restaurants.

I’ve not heard of that place. I’ll have to ask. It’s been 13 years since I’ve been there!

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:22:36am

re: #89 Anymouse 🌹

Man I wish I could send y’all some of our rain. We’re drowning here. About the only people who are enjoying it are hay farmers (they are mowing like crazy around here).

That will hurt them later in the season, when the price of hay plunges.

We could use some rain here. Don’t think we are getting any anytime soon.

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teleskiguy  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:24:08am

re: #90 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

I’ve not heard of that place. I’ll have to ask. It’s been 13 years since I’ve been there!

slowgroovinbbq.com

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Targetpractice  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:24:48am

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹

A couple years ago when Alabama passed its version of Arizona’s “papers please” law, tomato farmers wound up plowing under their crops, because even offering $50 an hour they could not get people into the fields to pick tomatoes.

It turns out if you have a regular job somewhere, you’re not going to quit it for a three-week season in the fields, even at $50. Migrant farm workers are migrants precisely because they travel across the country for different harvest seasons. You can’t have an office job or something and also be a farm worker. Capitalism doesn’t work that way.

Ayep. IIRC, they had to eventually resort to prison labor being forced into working as farm hands just to avoid a total disaster. But there still isn’t enough prison labor in the entirety of the state to cover all the jobs.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:28:46am

re: #93 Targetpractice

Solution: Make more prisoners. They’re even cheaper than migrant labor.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:30:13am

re: #73 Eclectic Cyborg

He’s 34 for the record. He’s also an all around dick apparently:

“On March 13th, 2018, Cain tweeted about the death of prominent physicist Stephen Hawking. In his tweet, he stated “Stephen Hawking now knows the truth about how the universe was actually made. My condolences to his family.” The tweet was largely perceived to be insensitive and was criticized by legislators on both sides of the aisle.”

I knew I’d heard the little choad’s name somewhere in the news recently. He is apparently angling for national prominence in the GOP.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:31:36am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:38:29am

Tomorrow is our famous annual town party, Broadwater Days. Y’all are welcome to come. Parade, cookout in the park, bar open all day, dancing in the evening.

In the meantime, today the village fire department was called out to a truck fire … doofus was driving his truck with a flat tire and unsurprisingly, the truck caught fire.

(Video of the fire department putting out the truck fire)

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:40:37am

Goodnight!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:40:49am

re: #96 Single-handed sailor

Sting Blade Knife Stun Gun Flashlight

Some folks call it a Kaiser blade….

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:44:43am

More of this please.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:48:31am

re: #94 I cannot.

Solution: Make more prisoners. They’re even cheaper than migrant labor.

Imprison all the migrants. Win-win until ICC arrest warrants start showing up.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:51:42am

Miller, Trump, and the private prison gang really could be hauled to the Hague for running a slave labor racket. The November election MUST go our way.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:53:57am

re: #96 Single-handed sailor

Sting Blade Knife Stun Gun Flashlight

Even though they describe it as a utility blade and not for self defense the knife addition is a really bad idea, takes a non-lethal device and turns it into a potential “deadly weapon” in the eyes of the law.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:54:09am

re: #101 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I would assume they run out of money in their budget very soon. There was a reason the Obama administration prioritized deporting criminals over Dreamers and the basic family border crossings. There is only a finite amount of money allotted by congress each year. Gonna leave the bad guys in our country when you run out of money deporting Dreamers?

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teleskiguy  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:55:04am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:56:55am

re: #101 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Imprison all the migrants. Win-win until ICC arrest warrants start showing up.

The United States does not recognise the authority of the ICC. Republicans have always been opposed to it.

The best the ICC can do is make it impossible for a member of the maladministration to travel outside the country.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:01:19am

re: #103 goddamnedfrank

I’m not sure of the legality of a taser in California for civilian use. I’ve mostly legally carried a knife for 30 years. I had a knife that would draw a, “You know that knife is illegal.” from officers when I whipped it out in their presence. My response was, “Yeah, bought it on the internet, didn’t notice the size difference in the description.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:02:23am

Airbus Warns It Might Leave the Country Ahead of Brexit (goes to Airways Magazine).

Airbus manufactures its wings for aircraft in the United Kingdom. It notes if the Conservative Party can’t get its act together on coming to some agreement with the EU over Brexit, it stands to lose tens of billions of Euros if it has to pay tariffs to ship those parts in from the UK.

Conservatives at Westminster are like conservatives everywhere: They are looking for the quick fix to maintain their grip on power. They would rather see Airbus go and billions of pounds sterling in trade evaporate (along with employment) than cave in to the obvious solution over the referendum for Brexit: Abandon it.

Even though it has been shown now the Brexit vote was rodent couplated the same way our election was, conservatives will not relinquish their grip on power. Theresa May has staked her reputation on this, and she’ll take the whole economy with her if she has to.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:03:43am

re: #108 Anymouse 🌹

Lots of jobs lost in Wales.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:07:37am

re: #106 Anymouse 🌹

The United States does not recognise the authority of the ICC. Republicans have always been opposed to it.

The best the ICC can do is make it impossible for a member of the maladministration to travel outside the country.

I was hoping that recognition may come after 2021, especially if we have a big bag of monstrous criminals who have to be dealt with.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:07:52am

re: #101 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Imprison all the migrants. Win-win until ICC arrest warrants start showing up.

This is the Confederate model of governance. Literally the only legitimate function of government is to make sure enough able-bodied men are incarcerated to meet the capitalists’ demand for labor, at a rate just sufficient to cover the costs of their imprisonment. “No taxation for internal improvements!”, so this is the only way roads or bridges or whatever can be built—toll roads and bridges, of course. (Per the earlier discussion, I would never use a toll road, period. I had no idea they existed west of the Appalachians.)

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:10:04am

Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker’s son accused of sexual assault on flight

The adult son of Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker has been accused of sexual assault by a woman on a JetBlue flight Wednesday.

The incident allegedly happened on flight 1354 from Washington, D.C., to Boston, according to Boston ABC affiliate WCVB.

“On June 20, the crew of flight 1354 were notified of an incident between customers shortly before landing in Boston,” JetBlue said in a statement. “The aircraft landed at approximately 11 p.m. local time where it was met by local authorities.”

A woman on the flight accused Andrew Baker, known as A.J., of inappropriate touching, WCVB reported.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:15:16am

re: #96 Single-handed sailor

HOW MANY VOLTS?!

I thought a really high-power stun gun went into the 100k range, and even then, it was crazy. 22 MILLION?! I know, its not the volts, its the amps…but fucking hell.

EDIT: Apparently it has been decades since I have looked at stun guns.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:24:15am

re: #110 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I was hoping that recognition may come after 2021, especially if we have a big bag of monstrous criminals who have to be dealt with.

That could be tough. Adopting a treaty in the USA requires two thirds vote of the Senate and signed by the President. Any treaty which violates US laws is unenforceable in respect to the infringing sections.

The USA completed roughly sixteen thousand international agreements from the end of WW2 to the end of the XX Century. Of those, 912 are treaties.

The GOP has been opposing the Law of the Sea treaty ever since it was proposed, on the grounds it impinges on US sovereignty (it would subject maritime disputes to international resolution).

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:28:38am

re: #113 I cannot.

HOW MANY VOLTS?!

I thought a really high-power stun gun went into the 100k range, and even then, it was crazy. 22 MILLION?! I know, its not the volts, its the amps…but fucking hell.

EDIT: Apparently it has been decades since I have looked at stun guns.

Well, if you need a hand-held lightning bolt, like Zeus, what else would you do? (Lightning bolts average between 40 and 120 kV. On the other hand, they run from 5 kA to 200kA.)

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:36:50am

re: #113 I cannot.

HOW MANY VOLTS?!

I thought a really high-power stun gun went into the 100k range, and even then, it was crazy. 22 MILLION?! I know, its not the volts, its the amps…but fucking hell…

It’s BS marketing department crap, it probably drops to 20kv when conducting through skin.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:38:13am

Spark gap rule of thumb is 1 centimeter per 30kv.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:43:20am

Okay, this is kind of funny, though a bit long.

Donald Trump is not only the worst President in US history, he is also the most Authoritarian, Un-American and possibly treasonous man to hold that office. If you support Trump, his administration or its policies, please follow these instructions:
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Though I know you all enjoy being on my friend list, Trump supporters are urged to please follow these simple instructions for unsubscribing from my friend list.

(instructions follow)

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:47:59am

Back in high school, in the medieval times of electronics of the early 1970s we had a 9V battery and a 170:1 transformer. We would form a circle holding hands and one end would grab a lead from the device and the other end grabbed the other and we’d see how long we could hold the circuit.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:52:06am

re: #107 Single-handed sailor

I’m not sure of the legality of a taser in California for civilian use. I’ve mostly legally carried a knife for 30 years. I had a knife that would draw a, “You know that knife is illegal.” from officers when I whipped it out in their presence. My response was, “Yeah, bought it on the internet, didn’t notice the size difference in the description.”

Tasers and stun guns are generally legal except for felons. Folding knives depend on local city ordinance and fixed blades are a bad idea unless hunting and worn openly in a belt sheath because State law prohibits concealed dirks / daggers.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:54:12am

re: #120 goddamnedfrank

Tasers and stun guns are generally legal except for felons. Folding knives depend on city ordinance and fixed blades are a bad idea unless hunting and worn openly on a belt sheath because State law prohibits concealed dirks / daggers.

Even Dirk Gently?

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:58:38am

re: #120 goddamnedfrank

Tasers and stun guns are generally legal except for felons. Folding knives depend on city ordinance and fixed blades are a bad idea unless hunting and worn openly on a belt sheath because State law prohibits concealed dirks / daggers.

3 3/8” blade single edge folding knife are legal as long as they can’t be opened with the flick of the wrist. Surprisingly my Carson flipper is legal and it’s as fast as any switchblade.

Knive CRKT M16-13 Zytel openning using Carson Flipper

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Teukka  Jun 23, 2018 • 2:00:54am

re: #106 Anymouse 🌹

The United States does not recognise the authority of the ICC. Republicans have always been opposed to it.

The best the ICC can do is make it impossible for a member of the maladministration to travel outside the country.

I think that if the maladministration is bad enough or if enough emerges from investigations in to similar matters as Muellers (NATO and Europol are looking into things for example), you might have sanctions imposed, forcing the issue somewhat.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 23, 2018 • 2:03:57am

re: #100 goddamnedfrank

“86 — Sarah Huckabee Sanders” Either table 86, or “cancel this order” in restaurant shorthand.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 23, 2018 • 2:06:35am

re: #117 Single-handed sailor

Spark gap rule of thumb is 1 centimeter per 30kv.

That the approximate dielectric constant of dry air, IIRC. Been a while since I taught physics, y’know.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 23, 2018 • 2:09:10am

re: #124 wheat-dogg

“86 — Sarah Huckabee Sanders” Either table 86, or “cancel this order” in restaurant shorthand.

That was wonderful! These people need to be treated as absolute pariahs. Of course, we’ll be told in the morning that this is the real crime against humanity. Kids? Pfffhhht!

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wheat-dogg  Jun 23, 2018 • 2:09:28am

re: #120 goddamnedfrank

Tasers and stun guns are generally legal except for felons. Folding knives depend on local city ordinance and fixed blades are a bad idea unless hunting and worn openly in a belt sheath because State law prohibits concealed dirks / daggers.

How about this one?

That’s not a knife

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 23, 2018 • 2:13:31am

BART Police code 10-57 - Marijuana Smokers. Nice, we get our own 10 code.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 2:26:52am
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wheat-dogg  Jun 23, 2018 • 2:29:26am

Well, I guess Jon Snow knows something.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 2:34:09am

BBC:

I Downloaded All My Facebook Data and It Was a Nightmare

The writer was horrified to learn what Facebook actually knows about you. Apparently, it is easier to both obtain your data and delete your account under the EU’s new privacy law than it is in the USA.

To tell you the truth, I have never been the kind of person to worry too much about my personal data online. I know it’s concerning, but trying to do anything about it just feels pointless. Where are we even supposed to start?

I’m 28, and I’ve spent most of my life online. I got a Hotmail account at 10, my first phone at 11, and a Facebook account at 16. I must have given so much personal information away (let alone all the embarrassing drunk photos I posted online while at uni) that it’s easier to live in denial and not think about it.

But when the news came out that Facebook had passed on data of up to 87 million of its members to political consultancy Cambridge Analytica without their knowledge - and one in 20 Brits were reported to delete their accounts - I started to wonder just how much information the social network had on me.

For the first time in my online life, I decided to face up to my data and download everything Facebook had on me.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 2:52:33am

White Nationalist Argues Micegeny More Devious Than Mass Murder (goes to Utah Outcasts, 14:11, caution for adult language which offends conservatives).

A young woman who has a white nationalist radio show (thanks, Ronald Reagan for your creation of hate radio) argues why miscegenation is worse than mass-murder. (Hint, all the usual conservative and racist talking points about things such as white genocide).

The poor stranded liberal atheists in Utah take her apart.

White Nationalist Argues Miscegeny More Devious Than Mass Murder

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MsJ  Jun 23, 2018 • 2:55:30am

re: #46 fern01

What hold has trump on these people that they want to protect him. Is this how they ask for a pardon?

That wasn’t the point. Manafort doesn’t want to mention trump because trump is very unpopular and doing so would likely be bad for manafort.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 23, 2018 • 3:06:56am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 3:20:01am

An interesting family story (at least to me).

My wife received in the mail handmade silver jewellery and other presents from a woman she does not know as a gift yesterday. The story behind that… .

My brother-in-law and his wife travelled to Northfield, Minnesota. They went to visit the city historical museum, particularly their information about the James-Younger gang.

My wife and her brother are related to John and Cole Younger.

When my brother told the museum curator he was a scion of the Younger family, she announced it to the whole museum. A crowd surrounded him asking for the Younger side of the Northfield bank robbery story.

He made a short florid speech, apologising to the town on behalf of the Younger family. (From that the jeweller in question gave his wife some of her wares and mailed some to my wife.)

It turns out the town has a celebration and parade every year over its defeat of the James-Younger gang. (My brother-in-law put it as “they take a long time to get over a grudge.”)

My wife suggested to him that perhaps they can be “grand marshals” of the town’s next celebration (or perhaps the town’s “grand heels”).

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MsJ  Jun 23, 2018 • 3:34:24am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 3:43:14am

I’m off to bed. Tomorrow is the town party, parade, and drink-o-rama. See y’all later… .

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Teukka  Jun 23, 2018 • 3:50:11am

re: #132 Anymouse 🌹

White Nationalist Argues Micegeny More Devious Than Mass Murder (goes to Utah Outcasts, 14:11, caution for adult language which offends conservatives).

A young woman who has a white nationalist radio show (thanks, Ronald Reagan for your creation of hate radio) argues why miscegenation is worse than mass-murder. (Hint, all the usual conservative and racist talking points about things such as white genocide).

The poor stranded liberal atheists in Utah take her apart.

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Speaking of miscegeny… I learnt that after WWII, the Nazis began using the word “culture” instead of “race” to stay under the radar. So what a Nazi means when he says “multiculturalism” is “multiracialism”, or miscegenation.

And there are other codewords which are varying degrees of cloaked. There are some which basically are anglified Third Reich terms.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 23, 2018 • 3:54:16am
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sagehen  Jun 23, 2018 • 4:00:46am

re: #123 Teukka

I think that if the maladministration is bad enough or if enough emerges from investigations in to similar matters as Muellers (NATO and Europol are looking into things for example), you might have sanctions imposed, forcing the issue somewhat.

It wouldn’t even take a formal issuance of sanctions; if we’re hideous enough, all they have to do is stop buying T-Bills. (T-bills roll over every six months; cashing out instead of buying another round is as simple as a phone call to the broker). Stop using the $ as their reserve currency. The world could drop us to our knees in under a year, without a shot fired.

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Teukka  Jun 23, 2018 • 4:02:45am

re: #140 sagehen

It wouldn’t even take a formal issuance of sanctions; if we’re hideous enough, all they have to do is stop buying T-Bills. (T-bills roll over every six months; cashing out instead of buying another round is as simple as a phone call to the broker). Stop using the $ as their reserve currency. The world could drop us to our knees in under a year, without a shot fired.

I see your six months and say two.

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sagehen  Jun 23, 2018 • 4:08:35am

re: #133 MsJ

That wasn’t the point. Manafort doesn’t want to mention trump because trump is very unpopular and doing so would likely be bad for manafort.

There was about 5 years that Republicans loved GWB as much or more than they currently love Pumpkin Pinochet.

Until they suddenly didn’t.

He was uninvited to 3 RNC’s in a row; Fewer than half the people who voted for him will admit to having voted for him. And even his most ardent followers are reluctant to praise his policies.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 23, 2018 • 4:53:14am

re: #140 sagehen

It wouldn’t even take a formal issuance of sanctions; if we’re hideous enough, all they have to do is stop buying T-Bills. (T-bills roll over every six months; cashing out instead of buying another round is as simple as a phone call to the broker). Stop using the $ as their reserve currency. The world could drop us to our knees in under a year, without a shot fired.

Russia and China have already agreed to trade oil and natgas for Chinese yuan, and not the “petrodollar” commonly used by OPEC nations. If that idea catches on, the US dollar will suffer bigly.

As for T-bills, if China sells theirs, someone else will buy them on the open market. Cashing out and not buying anymore would just mean someone else would buy them. China uses those T-bills to manage its foreign reserves to keep the yuan “cheap.” So I’m not sure it’s going to give up T-bills any time soon.

But China has lots of other ways to inflict economic pain on the USA.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 23, 2018 • 4:55:15am

Tweetler is awake.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 5:02:26am

re: #144 wheat-dogg

Tweetler is awake.

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He’s mad as always. All he cares about his power.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 23, 2018 • 5:09:19am

re: #145 HappyWarrior

He’s mad as always. All he cares about his power.

It’s not healthy to wake every morning angry. He needs a new hobby besides pretending to be president.

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MsJ  Jun 23, 2018 • 5:12:15am
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wheat-dogg  Jun 23, 2018 • 5:19:39am

The main player in the disinformation campaign is Trump himself.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 5:23:17am

re: #143 wheat-dogg

Russia and China have already agreed to trade oil and natgas for Chinese yuan, and not the “petrodollar” commonly used by OPEC nations. If that idea catches on, the US dollar will suffer bigly.

As for T-bills, if China sells theirs, someone else will buy them on the open market. Cashing out and not buying anymore would just mean someone else would buy them. China uses those T-bills to manage its foreign reserves to keep the yuan “cheap.” So I’m not sure it’s going to give up T-bills any time soon.

But China has lots of other ways to inflict economic pain on the USA.

Criswell Bacon has been predicting that Trump will piss the rest of the world off to the point that nobody outside the US will buy Treasury securities! That will trigger a meltdown in DC

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 5:32:00am

re: #62 wheat-dogg

He looks like he’s 12 years old.

That’s probably his mental age after he read Atlas Shrugged.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 5:34:50am

re: #80 Anymouse 🌹

I was listening to NPR in the car the other day. They were talking about how lobster pots used to be made from wood, but are now primarily made from aluminum and steel wire, because those hold up better.

China has imposed tariffs on imported American lobster, so there’s one hit to the industry.

Another: They were interviewing the largest lobster pot manufacturer in the USA, who has a virtual monopoly on the industry here. He is worried about tariffs increasing his products for lobster fishermen so much they will purchase less and thus hurt his business. He noted companies and people who buy aluminum and steel are busy trying to buy as much as they can now before those tariffs go into effect.

He also noted the tariffs apply to raw materials, not finished products. As such, a French company is moving to try to put him out of business by importing finished lobster pots. (The company didn’t make them before.)

Yes, he still supports Trump.

His solution: He says he’s praying every night this will work out so he doesn’t have to lay off his twenty or so workers and shutter his business.

Such people seem to be unreachable. Clutching their Cheeto Messiah and praying doesn’t seem to be a good business plan.

It is the “both siderists” that need to be reached, and those who sit out elections thinking the government doesn’t affect them.

The opiate of the masses turns people into asses…

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wheat-dogg  Jun 23, 2018 • 5:36:23am

re: #149 Joe Bacon 🌹

Criswell Bacon has been predicting that Trump will piss the rest of the world off to the point that nobody outside the US will buy Treasury securities! That will trigger a meltdown in DC

It’s possible, for sure, considering how Trump has managed to piss off our allies with his “trade war” BS and refusal to take NATO, NAFTA, TPP, and all our other treaties seriously. T-bills are one of the props that keep the national economy going. If other nations wanted to punish the USA, they could just refuse to buy any more of our debt instruments.

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MsJ  Jun 23, 2018 • 5:48:00am

The bridge troll is at it again.

Oh, and there’s a NYT article on the lobster issue (and nail manufacturer and more).

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MsJ  Jun 23, 2018 • 5:51:13am

Here it is.

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MsJ  Jun 23, 2018 • 5:55:20am
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Teukka  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:00:45am

re: #154 MsJ

Here it is.

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Do tell, how much of a dent do you reckon 25% on key exports from the US to the EU will make?

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b.d.  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:06:32am

Good morning Lizards;

Wasn’t Friday supposed to be the day, for sure, that Trump fired Rosenstein?

The wingnuts sure were sure that was going to happen, I guess that got moved to this Friday?

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jeffreyw  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:09:18am

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Good morning!

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MsJ  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:10:09am

re: #156 Teukka

Do tell, how much of a dent do you reckon 25% on key exports from the US to the EU will make?

For an up and coming company like the whiskey company, who was just ending the EU market, it could be life or death. The nail company will likely fold completely.

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William Lewis  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:16:19am

re: #159 MsJ

For an up and coming company like the whiskey company, who was just ending the EU market, it could be life or death. The nail company will likely fold completely.

And they’ll say it was due to the Democrats not supporting Pumpkin Pinochet’s economic illiteracy? I’d bet about a 90% probability.

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Teukka  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:17:04am

re: #159 MsJ

For an up and coming company like the whiskey company, who was just ending the EU market, it could be life or death. The nail company will likely fold
completely.

* Corn
* Dried and peeled kidney beans
* Some types of rice
* Peanut butter
* Orange Juice
* Cranberries and cranberry juice
* Bourbon Whiskey
* Other Whiskey (not Scotch)
* Cigars
* Water pipe tobacco
* Chewing tobacco and snuff
* Unspecified make-up for eyes and lips.
* Unspecified manikure and pedicure products.
* Clothes such as T-shirts, linen, trousers made by synthetic textiles and cotton
* Bedwear
* Hair Spray
* Household and toilet articles made by ceramics, e.g. sinks and sanitary fixtures.
* Mirrors, unframed

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MsJ  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:17:54am

This is literally the only thing in the article.

CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) — Spokesman: Lawmaker who defeated U.S. Rep. Mark Sanford in his re-election bid seriously injured in car accident.

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Teukka  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:20:02am

List of tarriffed goods in pdf added (reload comment 161)

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BigPapa  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:20:20am

Remember when Crazy Eyes Bachmann said ‘Gangster Government?’ Good times.

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b.d.  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:23:28am

re: #159 MsJ

For an up and coming company like the whiskey company, who was just ending the EU market, it could be life or death. The nail company will likely fold completely.

Hmmmmm, 20 years for now they’ll be lost barrels of whiskey still just chilling because the company that made them went out of business?

//

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:26:54am

re: #155 MsJ

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What is depressing is that I have coworkers just as racist in my office. Especially the one who is a Diamond and Silk wannabee who continually e-mails the White House about people disrespecting Shittler.

BTW she also was a birther. Hated Obama. And she’s African-American…

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freetoken  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:27:33am

re: #166 Joe Bacon 🌹

Is she religious?

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MsJ  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:28:04am

I literally laughed for 5 minutes. My husband thinks I’m nuts. The response sent me into a complete fit of laughter.

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MsJ  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:28:41am

re: #166 Joe Bacon 🌹

What is depressing is that I have coworkers just as racist in my office. Especially the one who is a Diamond and Silk wannabee who continually e-mails the White House about people disrespecting Shittler.

BTW she also was a birther. Hated Obama. And she’s African-American…

Wow. That’s, just, wow.

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b.d.  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:30:49am

re: #166 Joe Bacon 🌹

What is depressing is that I have coworkers just as racist in my office. Especially the one who is a Diamond and Silk wannabee who continually e-mails the White House about people disrespecting Shittler.

BTW she also was a birther. Hated Obama. And she’s African-American…

I commend you on your patience.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:30:53am

re: #167 freetoken

Is she religious?

And an Extra Bonus! She HATES Jews and she loves to shoot her mouth off with anti-Semitism about how I’ve “got a lot of money cause I’m part of the tribe”

You complain and what does management do?

You guessed it—NOTHING!!!!!!

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b.d.  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:31:26am

re: #167 freetoken

Is she religious?

No, she’s a evangelical christian.

//

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:32:43am

re: #166 Joe Bacon 🌹

E-mails the WH about people dissing POTUS?

NO WONDER I CAN’T PLAY GAMES…SHE USING ALL MY DAMN BANDWIDTH…FOR THE ENTIRE MIDWEST!

And I’m sure the black community has words to say about her…I KNOW they have words.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:35:16am

re: #173 I cannot.

E-mails the WH about people dissing POTUS?

NO WONDER I CAN’T PLAY GAMES…SHE USING ALL MY DAMN BANDWIDTH…FOR THE ENTIRE MIDWEST!

And I’m sure the black community has words to say about her…I KNOW they have words.

Every day she is sending e-mails to Trump documenting coworkers who do NOT like His Ass-Holeyness. And she gets to file EEO complaints which are filled with endless lies. Oh and the Agency investigates every one of her complaints. I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve been deposed by that CENSORED!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:39:17am

re: #172 b.d.

No, she’s a evangelical christian.

//

And a Republican who just can’t understand why her party didn’t nominate Kindasleazy Rice for President!

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MsJ  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:40:50am

Here’s more on that accident noted above.

joemygod.com

She sustained a fracture in her back and several broken ribs. Other injuries will require major surgery, including the removal of her small intestine. The main artery in her legs has a partial collapse and will require a stint.

Arrington was the passenger in a car heading south on U.S. Highway 17 toward Hilton Head Island when the vehicle she was in was struck by another car driving northbound but in the wrong lane. The driver in the other car was killed.

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freetoken  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:42:01am

Today, the Okeanos Explorer is going to explore a ship wreck!

Windows to the Deep 2018 (Camera 1)

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MsJ  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:47:19am
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MsJ  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:51:38am

Fuck. Me.

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b.d.  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:52:12am

FORT WORTH
A Houston-area Republican state representative trying to prank Texas Democrats was forced to leave the state Democratic convention Friday, but not before showing what appeared to be a sidearm.

State Rep. Briscoe Cain, R-Deer Park, was removed along with a local political consultant and other activists giving Democrats fake yard signs reading, “This home is a gun-free safe space.”

star-telegram.com

HAR-DE-HAR WE OWNED THE STUPID LIBS!!

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Teukka  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:54:38am

re: #180 b.d.

FORT WORTH
A Houston-area Republican state representative trying to prank Texas Democrats was forced to leave the state Democratic convention Friday, but not before showing what appeared to be a sidearm.

State Rep. Briscoe Cain, R-Deer Park, was removed along with a local political consultant and other activists giving Democrats fake yard signs reading, “This home is a gun-free safe space.”

star-telegram.com

HAR-DE-HAR WE OWNED THE STUPID LIBS!!

Is it just me, or is this reminiscent of the schtick of the Sturmabteilung?

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b.d.  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:58:16am

re: #181 Teukka

Is it just me, or is this reminiscent of the schtick of the Sturmabteilung?

Nah, those guys could do a push up.

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steve_davis  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:59:33am

re: #55 Anymouse 🌹

I’m looking at the toll rate table now. Sections A and C are $4.15 and sections B and D are $4.50.

With the thousands of different types of license plates in North America, could they all be programmed into their computers? Then there’s the issue of folk around the Air Force Academy who have European tags (I had Spanish plates on my car for several months after I came back from Spain).

It seems to me in the rush to embrace technology (to get rid of toll collectors - wages), they are missing a lot of tolls. Perhaps I just am not up to speed on modern technology though.

(I live in an area where the computer shop doesn’t take credit cards … cash, cheque, or money orders only.)

one of my last toll booth experiences was heading to New York from a Massachusetts job interview. Not only was there a guy in the booth, but I asked him how far Albany was. This was long before Garmin came along. If you wanted to know where the hell you were, you asked. He gave me good information. I believe I spent the night in Cobleskill, which is on an interstate route that has some of the most beautiful mountain scenery you could ask for.

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sagehen  Jun 23, 2018 • 6:59:39am

re: #179 MsJ

Fuck. Me.

[Embedded content]

A 2012 article, about a woman whose child was taken from her in 2007.

Disgusting and repulsive and every similar adjective, but this one isn’t on Trump.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 23, 2018 • 7:06:04am

re: #184 sagehen

No but it is on our idiotic system. ICE needs to go or require intense psychological screening for all present and future employees and allow for full inspections of all facilities to make sure they meet legal standards across the board. I know, and then I woke up….if anyone cared this wouldn’t be happening.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 23, 2018 • 7:09:20am

re: #100 goddamnedfrank

More of this please.

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Ha, Sara got 86’d.

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b.d.  Jun 23, 2018 • 7:23:48am

re: #186 Eventual Carrion

Ha, Sara got 86’d.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 23, 2018 • 7:31:01am

re: #144 wheat-dogg

“JSW Steel USA plans to invest $500 million to build a new factory in the U.S.”

I got $5 in Trump Casino chips that says it never happens.

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dangerman  Jun 23, 2018 • 7:37:10am

re: #104 Single-handed sailor

I would assume they run out of money in their budget very soon. There was a reason the Obama administration prioritized deporting criminals over Dreamers and the basic family border crossings. There is only a finite amount of money allotted by congress each year. Gonna leave the bad guys in our country when you run out of money deporting Dreamers?

I don’t think they give a shit about budget lines

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 23, 2018 • 7:43:04am
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jeffreyw  Jun 23, 2018 • 7:49:13am

They got rid of that agreement because it was just another thing in their way. They want to get their war on.

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2018 • 7:50:26am

re: #144 wheat-dogg

Tweetler is awake.

[Embedded content]

Dear Donny Trump,

We Democrats don’t care about losing the election so much as we care about losing you.

Please go away. You’re already the worst president in U.S. history.

Do us a favor, quit while you are ahead.

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scottslemmons  Jun 23, 2018 • 7:52:31am

re: #189 dangerman

I don’t think they give a shit about budget lines

They’ll always find money for concentration camps.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 7:54:56am

re: #189 dangerman

When Republicans control the government they let the red ink run. A Democrat gets in the White House and every last fucking Republican whines about deficits!

Fuck the GOP. The Republican Party must die.

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JordanRules  Jun 23, 2018 • 7:55:35am
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jeffreyw  Jun 23, 2018 • 7:56:08am
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dangerman  Jun 23, 2018 • 7:56:53am

re: #179 MsJ

Fuck. Me.

[Embedded content]

THis is evil

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 7:58:00am

re: #195 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

Why the hell should he have? Ryan obviously just wanted to look cool and hip by appearing with Seth.

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2018 • 7:59:02am

re: #158 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

Were all the peanuts gone a minute or two after that image was taken?

Squirrel!

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William Lewis  Jun 23, 2018 • 8:07:35am

Not that it will matter, I’ve sent the following today to both my GOP congress critter and Senator for Kansas while pretending to represent Wisconsin:

As a veteran of the US Army, I vowed to defend the US against all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC. The existence of the concentration camps full of children brought by Legal Asylum seekers covered under international law is, simply, a crime against humanity. Will you help end them and the illegal and immoral detention of ANY asylum seeker or will you continue to be complicit with the crimes and treason of the President?

GOP Delenda Est.

Won’t matter to either scumbag, but it felt good. Especially the last line…

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2018 • 8:08:33am

re: #179 MsJ

Fuck. Me.

[Embedded content]

Just to keep things in perspective…that case goes back 5 years. Sounds like the mother may have come across the border pregnant or just after childbirth. The people who adopted he child got him at 11 months old.

So…
Edit…I see it was a 2012 article. Must have occurred under Bush administration.

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MsJ  Jun 23, 2018 • 8:09:00am

I just got another Twitter timeout for telling some anti abortion idiot to fuck off because abortion is worse then putting babies into cages.

Twitter can fuck right off, too.

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jeffreyw  Jun 23, 2018 • 8:09:20am

re: #199 ObserverArt

Were all the peanuts gone a minute or two after that image was taken?

Squirrel!

He seems to prefer sunflower seeds over peanuts. We rarely see a critter with a peanut, the camera is set to wait 5 minutes between shots so it seems that the peanuts just disappear, one by one. Blue jays and grackles get them, mostly.

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MsJ  Jun 23, 2018 • 8:13:27am

re: #201 ObserverArt

Just to keep things in perspective…that case goes back 5 years. Sounds like the mother may have come across the border pregnant or just after childbirth. The people who adopted he child got him at 11 months old.

So…

I never said it was a trump thing but that story sickened me to my core.

The mother never gave up her rights to her own child. She tried to fight the whole thing and a Missouri judge basically told her to fuck off.

I wouldn’t care if it was 10 or 20 years old. Our Justice system is fucked when it allows that.

I obviously have rise colored glasses in so far as my concept of what America is.

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William Lewis  Jun 23, 2018 • 8:17:27am

re: #204 MsJ

I never said it was a trump thing but that story sickened me to my core.

The mother never gave up her rights to her own child. She tried to fight the whole thing and a Missouri judge basically told her to fuck off.

I wouldn’t care if it was 10 or 20 years old. Our Justice system is fucked when it allows that.

I obviously have rise colored glasses in so far as my concept of what America is.

And yet, this is also part of why so many kids never get adopted - why go to the emotional cost of bonding with a child who has spent months/years in the foster system if that child can be ripped away from you at any time?

This is a big reason why we chose to adopt internationally rather than from someone here in the US/Wisconsin. The danger of this kind of lawsuit - the majority of which the birth parent wins - was simply too great.

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MsJ  Jun 23, 2018 • 8:25:25am

re: #205 William Lewis

And yet, this is also part of why so many kids never get adopted - why go to the emotional cost of bonding with a child who has spent months/years in the foster system if that child can be ripped away from you at any time?

This is a big reason why we chose to adopt internationally rather than from someone here in the US/Wisconsin. The danger of this kind of lawsuit - the majority of which the birth parent wins - was simply too great.

They’re stealing American children from parents without written release of parental rights?

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2018 • 8:26:46am

re: #48 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

News from Lubbock:
Restaurant Report: Local restaurant closed due to roach infestation
To save a lengthy scroll through inspection summaries, the shuttered roach resort is the Popeye’s at 5102 Slide Road. The resident bugs have been given the death sentence in the form of a Health Department order for a thorough cleaning and treatment by licensed Dakeks exterminators before the place can be re-opened.

There was a McDonald’s down the street from where I had moved to in Norfolk in 93 that got shut down due to roaches. I guess the owner was hoping to remodel anyway, but they decided the best way to deal with them was to demolish the McDonald’s and rebuild.

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William Lewis  Jun 23, 2018 • 8:29:09am

re: #206 MsJ

They’re stealing American children from parents without written release of parental rights?

All a parent has to do is claim that. And with a competent lawyer, in Wisconsin, the birth parent will almost always win.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 23, 2018 • 8:30:59am

I have an urge to drop a Benjamin that he breaks 30 by the end of the month, but the safer bet would probably be in the 25-to-27 range

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2018 • 8:31:31am

re: #100 goddamnedfrank

More of this please.

[Embedded content]

“We don’t serve their kind here”

we don’t serve their kind here

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 23, 2018 • 8:43:50am

re: #143 wheat-dogg

Russia and China have already agreed to trade oil and natgas for Chinese yuan, and not the “petrodollar” commonly used by OPEC nations. If that idea catches on, the US dollar will suffer bigly.

Now if the OPEC nations were to use the Euro for their oil trade - essentially making the € the world’s reserve currency - oh boy….the shit would hit the fan for the US economy.

Note: I don’t foresee that happening - I’m just speculating. Also, I am not an economist, so take what I say with a pinch of salt.

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2018 • 8:45:11am

re: #143 wheat-dogg

Russia and China have already agreed to trade oil and natgas for Chinese yuan, and not the “petrodollar” commonly used by OPEC nations. If that idea catches on, the US dollar will suffer bigly.

As for T-bills, if China sells theirs, someone else will buy them on the open market. Cashing out and not buying anymore would just mean someone else would buy them. China uses those T-bills to manage its foreign reserves to keep the yuan “cheap.” So I’m not sure it’s going to give up T-bills any time soon.

But China has lots of other ways to inflict economic pain on the USA.

So Russia and China are making bilateral trade agreements.

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freetoken  Jun 23, 2018 • 8:46:55am

Heat warnings today throughout the western part of the country:

weather.gov

And it looks like it’s going to get warmer for several days.

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sagehen  Jun 23, 2018 • 8:51:23am

re: #206 MsJ

They’re stealing American children from parents without written release of parental rights?

Yes. And even with written release, birth parents have up to a year to change their minds. Because sometimes birth mothers (especially teenage girls with asshole parents) are pressured into signing something that’s not entirely voluntary, and maybe the birth father doesn’t even find out about until a couple of years later.

This is a big part of their anti-abortion obsession. “If you don’t want your child, someone else does. We’ll force you to take it to term so somebody else who can’t make their own can have it.”

Partly because of legalized abortion, and partly because single moms aren’t ostracized the way they used to be, there’s huge long waiting lists for healthy white infants. Nowhere near enough for all the would-be adoptive parents, that’s why African and Asian adoptions became common.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 23, 2018 • 8:53:29am

re: #108 Anymouse 🌹

Airbus Warns It Might Leave the Country Ahead of Brexit (goes to Airways Magazine).

Airbus manufactures its wings for aircraft in the United Kingdom. It notes if the Conservative Party can’t get its act together on coming to some agreement with the EU over Brexit, it stands to lose tens of billions of Euros if it has to pay tariffs to ship those parts in from the UK.

Conservatives at Westminster are like conservatives everywhere: They are looking for the quick fix to maintain their grip on power. They would rather see Airbus go and billions of pounds sterling in trade evaporate (along with employment) than cave in to the obvious solution over the referendum for Brexit: Abandon it.

Even though it has been shown now the Brexit vote was rodent couplated the same way our election was, conservatives will not relinquish their grip on power. Theresa May has staked her reputation on this, and she’ll take the whole economy with her if she has to.

Womp womp.

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MsJ  Jun 23, 2018 • 8:54:56am

re: #216 BlueSpotinAL

Womp womp.

And no matter how dire it gets, the Tories refuse to do anything.

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freetoken  Jun 23, 2018 • 8:55:09am

re: #213 Unshaken Defiance

URL needs repair.

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BeachDem  Jun 23, 2018 • 8:55:48am

re: #162 MsJ

This is literally the only thing in the article.

This one has more, including an incoherent tweet from you know who. (I’m behind on the thread, so sorry if already posted)

counton2.com

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Jay C  Jun 23, 2018 • 8:55:59am

re: #207 Belafon

There was a McDonald’s down the street from where I had moved to in Norfolk in 93 that got shut down due to roaches. I guess the owner was hoping to remodel anyway, but they decided the best way to deal with them was to demolish the McDonald’s and rebuild.

Wow. Thanks for the nostalgia hit today. For many years we used to enjoy reading, on Saturdays, the New York Times’ publishing of the week’s “dirty food list” of City Health violations for NY restaurants. While the vast majority were for trivial items (at least to our eyes) and mainly on fast-food joints in the Outer Boroughs, occasionally we’d spot a swanky four-star eatery get the black mark: though fortunately, rarely any place WE frequented…

Though after a series of unsurprising scandals broke about certain -ummm, - irregularities in the inspection system (hint: Benjamin Franklin was involved), the Times - no doubt to the relief of the City’s restaurant industry - stopped publishing the DFL.
Sad.

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2018 • 8:59:21am

re: #204 MsJ

I never said it was a trump thing but that story sickened me to my core.

The mother never gave up her rights to her own child. She tried to fight the whole thing and a Missouri judge basically told her to fuck off.

I wouldn’t care if it was 10 or 20 years old. Our Justice system is fucked when it allows that.

I obviously have rise colored glasses in so far as my concept of what America is.

You’re fine. I was just making it clear it wasn’t Trump.

But here is where Trump is saying he can do it because it was done before. This is his wiggle room.

And yes, it is all bad when it comes to separating children from parents.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:00:40am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:01:04am

re: #218 freetoken

URL needs repair.

Fixd, thanks.

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freetoken  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:02:15am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:03:58am

re: #222 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

You want to be able to deny service to people simply because they’re gay. STFU about rudeness.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:04:49am

re: #213 Unshaken Defiance

Caturday!

Let Photos Of Cats High On Catnip Be A Light In This Dark, Dark World

re: #218 freetoken

URL needs repair.

re: #223 Unshaken Defiance

Fixd, thanks.

Now you lost the image

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:08:28am

re: #224 freetoken

Proper headline:

Hundreds of primates flock to Museum of Zoology after opening by Sir David Attenborough

Years and years ago, I was at the Portland Zoo with a good friend of mine, and we got to the primate section, I told her, “You know, maybe they should be a typical family of four in here too - behind glass, maybe watching TV or eating dinner or playing video games or something. It would kinda round out the whole primate experience, wouldn’t it?”

Maybe something like this:

She started laughing maniacally, so much so that people were looking at us.

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:08:48am

re: #222 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

Hahaha. That’s great, Mike Huckabee busted his own balls with an earlier tweet and makes a fool of himself with no outside assistance, all within hours. Gotta credit those Huckabees for self-awareness.

We don’t lie…we aren’t bigots…we are Christians. Oooops!

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:09:18am

re: #35 BigPapa

This Tom Arnold action is sorta off. I wanna see something before I give a hoot.

I don’t trust Tom Arnold.

I also hate to be teased. If you have the goods release them, otherwise STFU. This is not a reality TV show.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:09:57am

re: #226 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Yeah, it’s not my morning for tinkering with the html

If my life ever depends on code skills, please send a nice card to the widow. //

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:10:21am

Huckabee’s entire political career is heavily based off his hatred of gays having the same rights as him.

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:12:22am

re: #230 Unshaken Defiance

Yeah, it’s not my morning for tinkering with the html

It’s OK, it made me click through to the link.

I love Shoyu. Looks named for the occasion.

Both my cats got their Edgar on at their last nipping.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:12:36am

re: #231 HappyWarrior

Huckabee’s entire political career is heavily based off his hatred of gays having the same rights as him.

Fauxppression. Imaginary or a stolen sense of oppression.

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danarchy  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:13:06am

A little OT rant. I haven’t investigated the details of the GPDR so I wont comment on it in general. However, requiring notification of cookies is fucking annoying. By using the internet I consent to the use of cookies, if I want to block them there are ways I can do that on my end. Instead now I have to click allow on every damn website(multiple times from different machines, tablets and phones).

It’s just stupid.

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freetoken  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:15:09am

Long, long ago, when I was a mere youth, we always seemed to have a cat or two around. One of my aunts also loved cats and had a house full of them.

Anyway, catnip would grow around the area occasionally (it has been widely spread in North America since being introduced) and I remember we had one plant growing by the side of the house.

The cats did react differently to it.

I guess some cats are pickier than others for their drug of choice.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:16:35am

re: #233 Unshaken Defiance

Fauxppression. Imaginary or a stolen sense of oppression.

Yep. Aw Sarah couldn’t go out to eat with her family. Compare that to the families her boss’s policy separated and her dad’s opposition both legally and morally to lgbt people even having families. She’s a liar too. She never treats people with respect:

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:16:38am

re: #235 freetoken

I would grow it fresh, but we try to keep the cats from nibbling in foliage around here. Often that’s some rare orchid seedling or something.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:17:29am

re: #222 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:18:26am

This is a photo from an opposition rally in Turkey, ahead of tomorrow’s elections.

That’s five million or so people turned out for Muharrem İnce, the CHP’s presidential candidate.

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freetoken  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:19:03am

re: #237 Unshaken Defiance

Catnip, like marigolds, can be planted around a garden as a way to help control the insect population.

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JordanRules  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:22:43am

re: #217 MsJ

And no matter how dire it gets, the Tories refuse to do anything.

Sounds very familiar.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:23:09am

You guys realize the Russians are going to try and totally fuck up any Blue Wave at the midterms, right?

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Jay C  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:23:45am

re: #222 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

Not sure whether Schmuckabee’s “defender” there posted two minutes (or three hours and two minutes) after the ex-Gov’s racist post, but that is serious pwnage.

Or would be if cretins like Huckabee or his idiot daughter had the sense to know when they were being pwned…..

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SteelPH  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:24:01am

re: #242 Eclectic Cyborg

Quite well aware.

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:26:35am

re: #237 Unshaken Defiance

I would grow it fresh, but we try to keep the cats from nibbling in foliage around here. Often that’s some rare orchid seedling or something.

Our cats are indoor only. But there are so many in the neighborhood, when we had some outside, it kept getting squished.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:28:42am

re: #242 Eclectic Cyborg

You guys realize the Russians are going to try and totally fuck up any Blue Wave at the midterms, right?

I’m not quite sure about that. They may play for disruption and instability rather than for the GOP. Keep us off the world stage with internal processes like imprisoning a President for legal proven cause.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:31:11am

re: #246 Unshaken Defiance

I’m not quite sure about that. They may play for disruption and instability rather than for the GOP. Keep us off the world stage with internal processes like imprisoning a President for legal proven cause.

I could see that - it’s a classic stratagem. Play both sides of the fence and let your foe wear themselves down or be so otherwise preoccupied they’re unable to challenge you.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:31:43am

When you go to a wedding and the photographer pulls up in this…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:33:26am

re: #248 Eclectic Cyborg

When you go to a wedding and the photographer pulls up in this…

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I would leave. I’ve done it before with no regrets.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:33:42am

re: #245 wrenchwench

Our are too, our foliage is what I jokingly call the worlds smallest Orchid Species Habitat. Aka The Indoor Greenhouse.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:35:08am

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BeachDem  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:35:14am

re: #239 Dr Lizardo

This is a photo from an opposition rally in Turkey, ahead of tomorrow’s elections.

That’s five million or so people turned out for Muharrem İnce, the CHP’s presidential candidate.

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Trumpers will soon be posting it as the “true photo from the yam’s inauguration.”

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danarchy  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:35:38am

re: #249 Joe Bacon 🌹

I would leave. I’ve done it before with no regrets.

You would leave a friends wedding because of the photographer? Really? SMH

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:36:23am

re: #249 Joe Bacon 🌹

I would leave. I’ve done it before with no regrets.

I was did think about it, but the bride and groom are very sane, long time friends so I stuck it out for them.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:36:25am

re: #214 freetoken

I’m surprised the National Weather Service is still allowed to provide this information without first having it vetted by the Trump administration to make sure it’s consistent with administration policy.

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:36:46am

re: #250 Unshaken Defiance

Our are too, our foliage is what I jokingly call the worlds smallest Orchid Species Habitat. Aka The Indoor Greenhouse.

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When I see the up-close photos of those, I want to take a bite.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:37:10am

re: #253 danarchy

You would leave a friends wedding because of the photographer? Really? SMH

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:37:19am

re: #249 Joe Bacon 🌹

I would leave. I’ve done it before with no regrets.

I wouldn’t let that ruin the experience.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:38:43am

re: #254 Eclectic Cyborg

I was very tempted but the bride and groom are very sane, long time friends so I stuck it out.

I look at this way. You’re there for them not the photographer.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:43:09am

Posted without warning or comment…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:43:13am

re: #259 HappyWarrior

I look at this way. You’re there for them not the photographer.

Yep, and that’s exactly what guided me to make my decision to stay.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:43:32am

re: #260 I Would Prefer Not To

Posted with warning or comment…

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NOPE.

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:43:36am

re: #222 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Idiots:

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:44:18am

re: #261 Eclectic Cyborg

Yep, and that’s exactly what guided me to make my decision to stay.

I hear it being frustrating though. A friend of my youngest brother once showed up wearing a MAGA hat.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:45:44am

re: #263 Belafon

Idiots:

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What pisses me off is Trump and his allies know nothing about MS-13 except as a means of condemning all Central American males as gangsters.

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:47:10am

re: #242 Eclectic Cyborg

Yep. And they’re already interfering. But we’re going to do it anyway.

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:50:55am

re: #262 Eclectic Cyborg

NOPE.

I’ll have yours.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:55:23am

re: #267 wrenchwench

re: #260 I Would Prefer Not To

Maybe a little awkward with chopsticks.

But then well hmmm. Slice that and ya got pizza looking like sushi rolls.

The Right Way to Eat Pizza - Stop Eating it Wrong, Episode 2

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BigPapa  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:57:36am

Sushi pizza now rolling pizza slices? This thread just got really weird. But I do have some fresh pineapple for breakfast.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 9:57:42am

Hit the wrong key!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:01:22am

The real Gangstas threatening America!

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:03:00am

re: #269 BigPapa

Sushi pizza now rolling pizza slices? This thread just got really weird. But I do have some fresh pineapple for breakfast.

California Kwiscene.

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William Lewis  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:06:47am

just for giggles, some here may appreciate this.

colt357.tumblr.com

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:06:48am

re: #269 BigPapa

Sushi pizza now rolling pizza slices? This thread just got really weird. But I do have some fresh pineapple for breakfast.

I went to the farmer’s market, got some tamales for later (they grow on bushes around here), a chocolate chip brownie, then on my way out, there was a table staffed by the high school marching band, selling more brownies. I refrained and went for the Misleading Cookies. They look like biscuits, and taste like a combo biscuit/cookie. Then a nice lady from out of town bought my coffee for me at the coffee shop around the corner.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:07:09am
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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:12:17am

re: #275 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

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See…it’s proof. Cat drugs cut cat productivity. Look at them…it looks like a cat opium den. We need our cats to be drug free!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:15:56am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:18:52am

re: #277 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

This cannot be allowed to continue.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:18:59am

re: #275 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Don’t worry, I know just the collection of specialist in feline motivation.
They’d be glad to help

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:24:45am

re: #279 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Until this happened

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JordanRules  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:26:21am
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Belafon  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:30:22am

From Balloon Juice

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BeachDem  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:33:02am

People are getting nuttier by the minute. Katie Arrington (the one who beat Mark Sanford in the primary) was in a car accident last night—she survived but has some horrendous injuries; the driver of the other car died. And already there are conspiracy theorists out all over the place claiming it was a DNC hit, an “illegal M-13,” a Hillary minion did it, etc.

Sometimes a car wreck is just a car wreck. Jeez.

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Brian J.  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:33:58am

re: #281 JordanRules

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To paraphrase Al Shapton a few years ago, meet James Crow III, Esquire, a man empowered by decades of conservative, um, “thought.”

Here’s a video posted by National Review themselves.

Sharpton: We’re Fighting James Crow, Jr. Esq.

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dangerman  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:34:35am

re: #234 danarchy

A little OT rant. I haven’t investigated the details of the GPDR so I wont comment on it in general. However, requiring notification of cookies is fucking annoying. By using the internet I consent to the use of cookies, if I want to block them there are ways I can do that on my end. Instead now I have to click allow on every damn website(multiple times from different machines, tablets and phones).

It’s just stupid.

the masses are asses and need protectin’

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:34:35am

re: #283 BeachDem

People are getting nuttier by the minute. Katie Arrington (the one who beat Mark Sanford in the primary) was in a car accident last night—she survived but has some horrendous injuries; the driver of the other car died. And already there are conspiracy theorists out all over the place claiming it was a DNC hit, an “illegal M-13,” a Hillary minion did it, etc.

Sometimes a car wreck is just a car wreck. Jeez.

Of course. Sigh.

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jeffreyw  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:34:51am

re: #260 I Would Prefer Not To

Posted without warning or comment…

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Imgur

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:36:24am

re: #283 BeachDem

People are getting nuttier by the minute. Katie Arrington (the one who beat Mark Sanford in the primary) was in a car accident last night—she survived but has some horrendous injuries; the driver of the other car died. And already there are conspiracy theorists out all over the place claiming it was a DNC hit, an “illegal M-13,” a Hillary minion did it, etc.

Sometimes a car wreck is just a car wreck. Jeez.

Indeed. Granted, bad timing from her point of view, but certainly nothing nefarious.

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dangerman  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:36:47am

re: #250 Unshaken Defiance

Our are too, our foliage is what I jokingly call the worlds smallest Orchid Species Habitat. Aka The Indoor Greenhouse.

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that is beautiful

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Jay C  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:37:38am

re: #282 Belafon

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From Balloon Juice

What I’d like to know is if the driver managed to land the car on the correct side for the gas filler…..

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:38:28am

re: #288 Dr Lizardo

Indeed. Granted, bad timing from her point of view, but certainly nothing nefarious.

It just shows you what we’re dealing with.

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dangerman  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:40:28am

re: #260 I Would Prefer Not To

Posted without warning or comment…

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it is so un japanese-y

just ingredients in a different shape
its not really subversive, like pineapple on a real pizza

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:40:31am

re: #283 BeachDem

People are getting nuttier by the minute. Katie Arrington (the one who beat Mark Sanford in the primary) was in a car accident last night—she survived but has some horrendous injuries; the driver of the other car died. And already there are conspiracy theorists out all over the place claiming it was a DNC hit, an “illegal M-13,” a Hillary minion did it, etc.

Sometimes a car wreck is just a car wreck. Jeez.

Giving his life to get one candidate?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:41:00am

re: #293 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Giving his life to get one candidate?

You’re talking about people who believe in Pizzagate.

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dangerman  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:41:44am

re: #265 HappyWarrior

What pisses me off is Trump and his allies know nothing about MS-13 except as a means of condemning all Central American males as gangsters.

its just another shorthand / code word
five easy characters that now can stand for anything they want

in fact trump himself would call it a brand

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:41:50am

re: #290 Jay C

What I’d like to know is if the driver managed to land the car on the correct side for the gas filler…..

Ace Ventura - “Like a glove” Scene

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:43:47am

re: #289 dangerman

It is and I get zero credit. That’s all the wifes work.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:44:22am

re: #291 HappyWarrior

It just shows you what we’re dealing with.

I pulled on the biohazard suit and wandered over to the FR fever swamp. There was only poster who was seriously calling out the Freepers for being a bunch of conspiracy nuts.

I get the feeling he or she ain’t gonna last long. Rationality is pretty much a straight-up violation of Free Republic’s membership guidelines.

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:44:27am

re: #283 BeachDem

People are getting nuttier by the minute. Katie Arrington (the one who beat Mark Sanford in the primary) was in a car accident last night—she survived but has some horrendous injuries; the driver of the other car died. And already there are conspiracy theorists out all over the place claiming it was a DNC hit, an “illegal M-13,” a Hillary minion did it, etc.

Sometimes a car wreck is just a car wreck. Jeez.

The more they try to hold onto power, the crazier they will get. Sucks to be them.

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dangerman  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:46:47am

re: #281 JordanRules

Last night I was told by the owner of Red Hen in Lexington, VA to leave because I work for @POTUS and I politely left. Her actions say far more about her than about me. I always do my best to treat people, including those I disagree with, respectfully and will continue to do so

this is what happens when you let cake bakers choose who they’ll sell to
(i know not really)

you voluntarily work for a pig, you’re a pig
and who you work for isnt a protected class

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dangerman  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:48:19am

re: #287 jeffreyw

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thanks for the sanity

btw, your flatbread the other day was outstanding

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dangerman  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:49:22am

re: #297 Unshaken Defiance

It is and I get zero credit. That’s all the wifes work.

who took the picture?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:50:20am

re: #300 dangerman

this is what happens when you let cake bakers choose who they’ll sell to
(i know not really)

you voluntarily work for a pig, you’re a pig
and who you work for isnt a protected class

We warned them about the slope this creates. I feel a little bad for her kids but no one forced SHS to shill for Trump.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:50:46am

re: #283 BeachDem

There’s already a Wikipedia update on Katie Arrington’s car accident.

On Friday, June 22, 2018, Arrington was seriously injured in an accident when a driver going the wrong way on a highway struck her vehicle. Arrington suffered a back fracture and broken ribs and had to have portions of her small intestine and colon removed. Joe Cunningham, Arrington’s Democratic general election opponent, announced that he would suspend his campaign out of respect for Arrington and her recovery.

Damn. That’s some serious injuries. Granted, I’d certainly never vote for her, or someone like her, but I hope she makes a full recovery. And kudos to Joe Cunningham for a genuine display of class.

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JordanRules  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:52:30am
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Jay C  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:52:38am

re: #283 BeachDem

People are getting nuttier by the minute. Katie Arrington (the one who beat Mark Sanford in the primary) was in a car accident last night—she survived but has some horrendous injuries; the driver of the other car died. And already there are conspiracy theorists out all over the place claiming it was a DNC hit, an “illegal M-13,” a Hillary minion did it, etc.

Sometimes a car wreck is just a car wreck. Jeez.

And if it had been the Democrat in the race who was injured, I’m sure there would be just as much nonsensical CT BS out on the ‘Net. Same (looney-) tune, different band.
But definitely a bummer for Ms. Arrington: those injuries are going to take quite a while to heal: even if elected, come January, she’s likely to be sworn in in a wheelchair - an ordeal the voters of SC-01 ought to seriously consider sparing her…..

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:54:03am

re: #305 JordanRules

Minnesota GOP chairwoman who was born in South Korea says racist remarks from fellow Republicans are “starting to get to me.”

Quelle surprise, my shocked face, etc., etc.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:55:20am

Am I alone in not worrying that Sarah Huckabee Sanders missed a meal?

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Teukka  Jun 23, 2018 • 10:59:52am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:01:28am

re: #305 JordanRules

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Racism sucks but she’s fucking blind not to have noticed it until it was directed her way.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:02:17am

re: #308 I Would Prefer Not To

How is this any different than refusing to serve lgbt people? My religion gives me the right to not have to tolerate mean and nasty humans. I’m sure a lot of people feel the same about their religion. With a little luck these assholes won’t be able to eat at any decent establishment in the greater DC area and beyond.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:02:31am

re: #302 dangerman

I did this morning.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:02:41am

re: #306 Jay C

And if it had been the Democrat in the race who was injured, I’m sure there would be just as much nonsensical CT BS out on the ‘Net. Same (looney-) tune, different band.
But definitely a bummer for Ms. Arrington: those injuries are going to take quite a while to heal: even if elected, come January, she’s likely to be sworn in in a wheelchair - an ordeal the voters of SC-01 ought to seriously consider sparing her…..

I do remember the Wellstone conspiracies.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:03:24am

re: #311 A Mom Anon

How is this any different than refusing to serve lgbt people? My religion gives me the right to not have to tolerate mean and nasty humans. I’m sure a lot of people feel the same about their religion. With a little luck these assholes won’t be able to eat at any decent establishment in the greater DC area and beyond.

This was in pretty red Virginia where VMI is. I was surprised where it was.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:05:55am

I might feel bad for SHS if she, her dad, & administration didn’t frame refusing to serve people as some sort of religious liberty.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:06:40am

re: #311 A Mom Anon

How is this any different than refusing to serve lgbt people? My religion gives me the right to not have to tolerate mean and nasty humans. I’m sure a lot of people feel the same about their religion. With a little luck these assholes won’t be able to eat at any decent establishment in the greater DC area and beyond.

I think the main difference is that if I see a Sarah Sanders type in public I will not remain silent. These people have been hiding behind their podiums. I am pissed that no one holds them accountable. When they come out in public is our only opportunity to say something. They don’t deserve to have normal lives.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:08:09am

re: #314 HappyWarrior

You gotta figure that there’s a large segment of restaurant employees in any major metro area that have immigrated here from Central and South America in addition to Mexico. Those establishment owners tend to know at least a little about why and how their employees got here. I don’t know how you could work with people every day and not feel for their stories and their value as workers and people. I hope the only food Huckleberry Saddlebags can find is McDonalds.

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nines09  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:10:30am

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:11:04am

re: #317 A Mom Anon

You gotta figure that there’s a large segment of restaurant employees in any major metro area that have immigrated here from Central and South America in addition to Mexico. Those establishment owners tend to know at least a little about why and how their employees got here. I don’t know how you could work with people every day and not feel for their stories and their value as workers and people. I hope the only food Huckleberry Saddlebags can find is McDonalds.

Lotta El Salvadoran immigrants and their families here and they’re the ones being blanket smeared as MS-13 members.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:12:48am

re: #316 I Would Prefer Not To
I’ve reached what I am affectionately calling The Official All Out of Fucks to Give phase of life. If I saw that mess of a family out and about it wouldn’t hurt my feelings one bit to call her a lying liar who lies out her lie hole all the time. Same for the rest of these liars and thieves.

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dangerman  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:13:12am

re: #312 Unshaken Defiance

I did this morning.

So you contributed…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:17:08am

Food Time!

Yesterday’s lunch of Chicken Marsala from Louise’s Trattoria on Larchmont in Los Angeles…

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dangerman  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:18:09am

re: #316 I Would Prefer Not To

I think the main difference is that if I see a Sarah Sanders type in public I will not remain silent. These people have been hiding behind their podiums. I am pissed that no one holds them accountable. When they come out in public is our only opportunity to say something. They don’t deserve to have normal lives.

Now you know why pruitts got protection
He saw this coming at them a mile back

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:18:41am

re: #318 nines09

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Choir or army, or a little of both?

Sometimes people are just united in cause. If that is a choir so be it. Better communications when everyone sings the same song.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:23:27am

So, came across this - a good article regarding the Pike County, OH murders; a case which remains unsolved over two years later.

The murder of the Rhoden family was a brutal tragedy that seemed straight out of an Appalachian noir. Two years later, no one knows why it happened.

The day Bobby Jo Manley pulled up to the Rhoden family property in April 2016, she saw two pitbulls. One of them was plopped down in a recliner. There was something funny about that. The dogs didn’t usually stay outside.

Inside the three mobile homes on the property, seven Rhoden family members were dead, except for the three babies. Shots to the head, mostly, executed some time between midnight and sunup in their respective homes. The property is a couple miles down Union Hill Road right off SR 32 — the James A. Rhodes Appalachian Highway— just past the small, green sign that reads, “Entering Pike County.”

A very well-written example of long-form journalism. Even though there’s really no new developments in the case aside from Internet rumors, it’s still an interesting read on an unsolved crime.

theoutline.com

Wiki article on the crime: en.wikipedia.org

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:24:46am

re: #317 A Mom Anon

[…] I hope the only food Huckleberry Saddlebags can find is McDonalds.

If I had a McDonald’s franchise, I’d give each employee permission to refuse service to anyone who is rude to them, or who has been racist in public, anywhere, until corporate comes to get me.

As it was, when I had employees in the bike shop, I always had their backs, and they always had mine. I had one guy who turned in a buddy for shoplifting before I knew it happened. One would-be customer had a fit about being asked for a drivers license to hold while she test rode a bike, but the employee (different guy) was following store policy. I was perfectly OK with her not coming in for 15 years after that. Her loss.

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nines09  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:25:44am

re: #324 ObserverArt

Choir or army, or a little of both?

Sometimes people are just united in cause. If that is a choir so be it. Better communications when everyone sings the same song.

It’s both. Same page.

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Semper Fi  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:29:53am

re: #322 Joe Bacon 🌹

Food Time!

Yesterday’s lunch of Chicken Marsala from Louise’s Trattoria on Larchmont in Los Angeles…

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I’m gonna start making a list of your eateries for when I’m in LA. So far, I approve of all you’ve shown though I may draw the line at the #19 legendary (Langers??) sandwich you showed a few days ago.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:31:06am
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Charles Johnson  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:31:27am

re: #234 danarchy

A little OT rant. I haven’t investigated the details of the GPDR so I wont comment on it in general. However, requiring notification of cookies is fucking annoying. By using the internet I consent to the use of cookies, if I want to block them there are ways I can do that on my end. Instead now I have to click allow on every damn website(multiple times from different machines, tablets and phones).

It’s just stupid.

I agree, and that’s why I tried to make the cookie notice at LGF as unobtrusive as possible. The GDPR is a pile of unnecessary bureaucratic bullshit and it’s not going to make anyone more secure or more private. But some of the penalties for non-compliance are absurdly harsh, so unfortunately I have to deal with it even though it really, really sucks.

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:32:26am

re: #325 Dr Lizardo

So, came across this - a good article regarding the Pike County, OH murders; a case which remains unsolved over two years later.

A very well-written example of long-form journalism. Even though there’s really no new developments in the case aside from Internet rumors, it’s still an interesting read on an unsolved crime.

theoutline.com

Wiki article on the crime: en.wikipedia.org

Thanks for that link. I have been following that whole thing as an Ohioan since it occurred. I try to read everything I can.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:32:53am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:34:12am

re: #329 Single-handed sailor

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She really is a pathetic individual. You know something Sarah, you, your father, & boss support protecting people who discriminate so you know something, Karma’s a bitch. You’re not a good person.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:34:16am

re: #330 Charles Johnson

I agree, and that’s why I tried to make the cookie notice at LGF as unobtrusive as possible. The GDPR is a pile of unnecessary bureaucratic bullshit and it’s not going to make anyone more secure or more private. But some of the penalties for non-compliance are absurdly harsh, so unfortunately I have to deal with it even though it really, really sucks.

That view is shared universally by my English students. They’re business professionals by and large and they regard GDPR as par-for-the-course bureaucratic security theater nonsense from Brussels.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:35:15am

re: #332 Charles Johnson

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President Yahoo Comment is on the John again.

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:35:47am
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sagehen  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:36:15am

re: #309 Teukka

Using MS-13 to dehumanize all immigrants from Latin america as criminal is as ridiculous as it would be for Sweden to dehumanize all immigrants from the US as Bandidos or Hells Angel members (Swedes don’t).

Of course you don’t. But perhaps it would it be fair to dehumanize all immigrants from the US as these guys?

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:38:31am

re: #331 ObserverArt

Thanks for that link. I have been following that whole thing as an Ohioan since it occurred. I try to read everything I can.

No problemo.

Interestingly, there was a similar crime in Kenton County, KY about two weeks before the massacre in Ohio. In the Kentucky case, the children were also left unharmed and the victims were alleged drug dealers.

daytondailynews.com

Most likely, purely coincidental but then again, perhaps not.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:40:16am

re: #329 Single-handed sailor

Part of why she did that was to make damned sure the restaurant owner gets threats from the Nazi loving nutbags her boss has unleashed. She’s not fooling anyone.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:43:06am

re: #339 A Mom Anon

Part of why she did that was to make damned sure the restaurant owner gets threats from the Nazi loving nutbags her boss has unleashed. She’s not fooling anyone.

Yep.

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SteelPH  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:43:52am

re: #339 A Mom Anon

Part of why she did that was to make damned sure the restaurant owner gets threats from the Nazi loving nutbags her boss has unleashed. She’s not fooling anyone.

From her government twitter account, no less.

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:44:47am
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sagehen  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:45:56am

re: #328 Semper Fi

I’m gonna start making a list of your eateries for when I’m in LA. So far, I approve of all you’ve shown though I may draw the line at the #19 legendary (Langers??) sandwich you showed a few days ago.

Don’t just eat the fancy food;

you also have to go to Tommy’s

Original Tommy’s Hamburgers - Cheap$kate Dining Review

and Pink’s

How Pink’s became Hollywood’s hot dog

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makeitstop  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:46:52am

Well, this certainly does not sound good.

My re: #318 nines09

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Teukka  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:47:11am

re: #337 sagehen

Of course you don’t. But perhaps it would it be fair to dehumanize all immigrants from the US as these guys?

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No. Because they’re not representative of the whole, but a fringe.

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sagehen  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:48:37am

and of course Oki’s

Oki-Dog by Youth Gone Mad

Home of the famous teriyaki pastrami burrito…
(nobody fusions like LA)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:49:22am

re: #346 sagehen

and of course Oki’s

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Home of the famous teriyaki pastrami burrito…
(nobody fusions like LA)

Holy fusion Batman.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:50:23am

Less storied than the famous places. But I’d say don’t miss the District Pub in NoHo near Universal city. Duck sausage on greens. Amaze.

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:50:38am

Good thread for a raven.

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:52:20am

re: #339 A Mom Anon

Part of why she did that was to make damned sure the restaurant owner gets threats from the Nazi loving nutbags her boss has unleashed. She’s not fooling anyone.

I hope the restaurant’s business goes up.

Trump people find themselves public outcasts. Crimes against society will get you that.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:58:43am
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Belafon  Jun 23, 2018 • 11:59:59am

re: #336 wrenchwench

Yep, just don’t let anger be in charge.

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Semper Fi  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:00:57pm

re: #343 sagehen

Don’t just eat the fancy food;

you also have to go to Tommy’s

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I love Tommy’s and Pinks and remember not too many years ago there was Cupid’s Hot Dogs in the SF Valley…very good.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:01:29pm

Fox is whining about Kathy Griffin saying those families are being exploited. They totally are.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:04:06pm

Cunningham needs to keep reminding the SC voters that Arrington has access to extensive, and excellent medical care.
A level of necessary care that could financially ruin most SC families if access to real health insurance is allowed to be stripped away by the whims of the Republican party

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Semper Fi  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:04:30pm

re: #346 sagehen

and of course Oki’s

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Home of the famous teriyaki pastrami burrito…
(nobody fusions like LA)

I missed out on the Oki Dog because I have a very low tolerance for Pastrami. It is usually instant heartburn for me.

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:05:33pm

re: #329 Single-handed sailor

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:05:45pm

re: #355 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Cunningham needs to keep reminding the SC voters that Arrington has access to extensive, and excellent medical care.
A level of necessary care that could financially ruin most SC families if access to real health insurance is allowed to be stripped away by the whims of the Republican party

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Classy move on his part.

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Semper Fi  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:09:48pm

re: #348 Unshaken Defiance

Less storied than the famous places. But I’d say don’t miss the District Pub in NoHo near Universal city. Duck sausage on greens. Amaze.

I didn’t know it existed and I’m most familiar with that area. Thx

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Charles Johnson  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:10:45pm
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BeachDem  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:12:08pm

re: #358 HappyWarrior

Classy move on his part.

And I think when his campaign resumes would be a perfect time to go with my ideas about promoting his opposition to offshore drilling and the like—he can be positive talking about issues and appeal to Sanford voters who feel the same way about certain issues.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:12:29pm
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Belafon  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:12:47pm

re: #329 Single-handed sailor

Twitter’s being weird. I cannot, for some reason, see the replies to that tweet.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:13:17pm

re: #360 Charles Johnson

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Freedom of speech? Okay

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:16:19pm

re: #283 BeachDem

People are getting nuttier by the minute. Katie Arrington (the one who beat Mark Sanford in the primary) was in a car accident last night—she survived but has some horrendous injuries; the driver of the other car died. And already there are conspiracy theorists out all over the place claiming it was a DNC hit, an “illegal M-13,” a Hillary minion did it, etc.

Sometimes a car wreck is just a car wreck. Jeez.

And what if the Russians saw that she was going to lose, so they had a car hit her just so she could get the sympathy vote.

Is that conspiracy theory enough? //

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Charles Johnson  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:16:21pm
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Belafon  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:18:49pm

re: #360 Charles Johnson

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BeachDem  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:22:19pm

I guess I’m in a minority in thinking that the restaurant refusing service to Huckabee-Sanders is not a good thing. I loved it when other patrons drove Nielson and Miller to leave the restaurants, but I’m really not a fan of denying service for political affiliations.

For instance, I live in a super red area—if I have Democratic bumper stickers on my car (I don’t, for fear of keying, etc.) should a restaurant be allowed to refuse to serve me? I think there are better ways to get the message across that the people in his administration are terrible people, who should be scorned.

YMMV

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BeachDem  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:23:23pm

re: #365 Belafon

And what if the Russians saw that she was going to lose, so they had a car hit her just so she could get the sympathy vote.

Is that conspiracy theory enough? //

No need for the //. I’ve seem similar thoughts posted. (Mediaite is a total cesspool of assholes on both sides.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:26:46pm

still a needy moron:

and I think I have to clean catboxes this evening…

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:27:14pm

re: #368 BeachDem

I guess I’m in a minority in thinking that the restaurant refusing service to Huckabee-Sanders is not a good thing. I loved it when other patrons drove Nielson and Miller to leave the restaurants, but I’m really not a fan of denying service for political affiliations.

For instance, I live in a super red area—if I have Democratic bumper stickers on my car (I don’t, for fear of keying, etc.) should a restaurant be allowed to refuse to serve me? I think there are better ways to get the message across that the people in his administration are terrible people, who should be scorned.

YMMV

Honestly, yes they can. And you can drag them through the mud if they do.

When the right decides that Nazi is no longer a good way to go through life, then we can discuss returning back to civil norms. But they broke this contract, and for us to play by rules that are no longer valid allows them to be treated as normal, which means they get to continue with their atrocities.

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SteelPH  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:27:34pm

re: #368 BeachDem

I guess I’m in a minority in thinking that the restaurant refusing service to Huckabee-Sanders is not a good thing. I loved it when other patrons drove Nielson and Miller to leave the restaurants, but I’m really not a fan of denying service for political affiliations.

For instance, I live in a super red area—if I have Democratic bumper stickers on my car (I don’t, for fear of keying, etc.) should a restaurant be allowed to refuse to serve me? I think there are better ways to get the message across that the people in his administration are terrible people, who should be scorned.

YMMV

I can see where you’re coming from, but when your politics consists of “deliberate cruelty to children”, I think exceptions can be made.

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:28:37pm

re: #366 Charles Johnson

I think I was in their neighborhood at Hamilton Pool that day.


matadornetwork.com
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Belafon  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:28:44pm

re: #369 BeachDem

No need for the //. I’ve seem similar thoughts posted. (Mediaite is a total cesspool of assholes on both sides.)

I suspect that the people coming up with that one are just trying to counter the winger narrative. That’s why it popped in my head.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:31:13pm
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dangerman  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:32:06pm

re: #368 BeachDem

I guess I’m in a minority in thinking that the restaurant refusing service to Huckabee-Sanders is not a good thing. I loved it when other patrons drove Nielson and Miller to leave the restaurants, but I’m really not a fan of denying service for political affiliations.

For instance, I live in a super red area—if I have Democratic bumper stickers on my car (I don’t, for fear of keying, etc.) should a restaurant be allowed to refuse to serve me? I think there are better ways to get the message across that the people in his administration are terrible people, who should be scorned.

YMMV

i predict this shaming behavior will not last
and (mostly just guessing) it hasnt been done a lot before
to some extent social media is making it louder and more effective certainly

people are mad. they are frustrated. lied to and made to feel (yes made to feel- gaslighting) like they are losing their grip on reality. no one makes any attempt to hear their voices. they are demeaned and dismissed as irrelevant (ie democrats).

at this moment in time, this a powerful way to make it clear there are a lot of unhappy people who totally disagree with what this admin is doing.

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plansbandc  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:33:19pm

re: #322 Joe Bacon 🌹

Chicken Marsala is one of my most favorite things. I have jealous.

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ObserverArt  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:34:25pm

re: #368 BeachDem

I guess I’m in a minority in thinking that the restaurant refusing service to Huckabee-Sanders is not a good thing. I loved it when other patrons drove Nielson and Miller to leave the restaurants, but I’m really not a fan of denying service for political affiliations.

For instance, I live in a super red area—if I have Democratic bumper stickers on my car (I don’t, for fear of keying, etc.) should a restaurant be allowed to refuse to serve me? I think there are better ways to get the message across that the people in his administration are terrible people, who should be scorned.

YMMV

We are in some very unique political times. I think people are so frustrated and feel cheated out of control of the situation they look for ways to get their word in.

It is going to be a long hot summer. People are real testy and Trump’s act is wearing on everyone.

You’re probably right, but no one is thinking clearly, and a lot of the filters have been removed from ordinary behavior.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:35:12pm

These people are so fucking dense.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:37:04pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:38:01pm

re: #379 Charles Johnson

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These people are so fucking dense.

As I learned from my 95 yr. old neighbor one time, some people named ‘Doug’ should be called ‘Digger’, ‘cause they’re never going to finish.

Thank you for the edit button.

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:38:03pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:38:33pm
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jaunte  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:39:43pm

To a misogynist, a woman’s name is an insult.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:40:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:41:23pm

heh

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:41:51pm

re: #381 wrenchwench

Thank you for the edit button.

And the Master Spy, where I do all my proof reading.

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plansbandc  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:43:32pm

re: #335 HappyWarrior

I like that. How about President Youtube Comment?

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:44:14pm

re: #386 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:44:21pm
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jaunte  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:44:32pm
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freetoken  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:46:42pm

I have no problem with making Trumpers feel isolated as a result of their choice to support moronic malevolency.

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jaunte  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:48:18pm

Keep this article handy to respond to right wing propaganda:

“…while the current administration has tried to tie Central American migrants to MS-13, government data reveals that gang members crossing irregularly are the rare exceptions. Since the Trump administration took office, the Border Patrol has detected fewer gang members crossing irregularly than during the Obama administration. In FY2017, these detections amounted to 0.075 percent of the total number of migrants (228 MS-13 members out of 303,916 total migrants). When combined with MS-13’s rival, the Barrio 18 gang, the number rises only slightly to 0.095 percent. This is far from the “infestation” of violent gang members described by the president.

The current crisis hasn’t been caused by a sudden influx of migration, either. The peak in apprehensions of irregular migrants actually took place some 17 years ago, in FY2000.”lawfareblog.com

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:51:05pm

TBH I don’t agree with it either but what I do find funny is this administration including SHS champions denying service over sexual orientation.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:54:28pm
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BeachDem  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:56:29pm

Thanks, all, for your responses about the restaurant thing. I need to give it all some more “deep thought.” I am definitely a zero tolerance for assholes type, and I pointedly avoid patronizing retailers/restaurants owned by creepy Republicans, both chains and locals.

I’m not overly bothered by what the restaurant did, and if Sarah Sanders was humiliated and embarrassed, I will not lose a minute’s sleep (in fact, I’ll sleep with a smile on my face.)

I just, I guess, prefer the general public making the noise as in the cases of Nielson, Miller and when Milo got driven out of the bar in NY. But, in retrospect, anything that lets them all know what scum they are is a good thing. (If I weren’t lazy and it wasn’t so freaking hot and humid today, I’d be outside Pence’s little dog and pony show screaming my fool head off.)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:56:50pm

re: #395 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Uh you could easily invert that. You’re the ones who claimed it was your religious liberty to deny people services because they’re gay. Karma’s a bitch. Tough shit for SMS for seeing first hand the first hand the policy she supports.

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plansbandc  Jun 23, 2018 • 12:59:48pm

The World Cup is my favorite sporting event. Germany just made the most ridiculously clutch free kick for the winning goal in stoppage. Incredible.

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:00:36pm

re: #396 BeachDem

It’s tough because these times go against almost all of the ways we were taught to be towards other people. How many times did we hear be nice even if the other person is an ass because we’re better than them?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:01:04pm

re: #397 HappyWarrior

Uh you could easily invert that. You’re the ones who claimed it was your religious liberty to deny people services because they’re gay. Karma’s a bitch. Tough shit for SMS for seeing first hand the first hand the policy she supports.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:01:31pm

re: #400 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Shocker.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:01:42pm
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dangerman  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:04:25pm

re: #386 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

Red Hen should simply hold a press conference, and defiantly state that this never happened.

I am on the floor laughing and rolling
(and i hit my head)

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TedStriker  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:07:20pm

re: #394 HappyWarrior

TBH I don’t agree with it either but what I do find funny is this administration including SHS champions denying service over sexual orientation.

Not only that, but how SHS and her miserable ilk get pissy when the “small business owners” they love to champion and lionize for their own political ends use their private property rights against them.

It’s almost as though “conservatives” feel the world owes them something…like fealty.

Fuck that and fuck them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:10:16pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:12:55pm

re: #403 dangerman

I am on the floor laughing and rolling
(and i hit my head)

A bicycle helmet should suffice for that activity.

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sagehen  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:13:05pm

re: #390 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Sarah, I know you don’t care even a tiny little bit about the ethics rules, but using your official account for this is a clear violation of 5 CFR 2635.702(a). It’s the same as if an ATF agent pulled out his badge when a restaurant tried to throw him/her out.

Wow. She broke a federal law. I guess that means we can take her children from her?

408
TedStriker  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:14:49pm

re: #390 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

re: #407 sagehen

Wow. She broke a federal law. I guess that means we can take her children from her?

The battle cry of the self-important: “Don’t you know who I am? You’re gonna regret this!”

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:15:22pm

re: #407 sagehen

Wow. She broke a federal law. I guess that means we can take her children from her?

Instead of the ‘tender ages’ facility, they should go to the ‘hardened facility’

410
TedStriker  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:19:14pm

re: #409 wrenchwench

Instead of the ‘tender ages’ facility, they should go to the ‘hardened facility’

411
A Cranky One  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:20:59pm

re: #409 wrenchwench

Instead of the ‘tender ages’ facility, they should go to the ‘hardened facility’

Makes sense. Sarah works at the ‘hardened heart facility.’

412
TedStriker  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:22:14pm

re: #411 A Cranky One

Makes sense. Sarah works at the ‘hardened heart facility.’

True, true…

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:22:37pm

re: #411 A Cranky One

Makes sense. Sarah works at the ‘hardened (if any) heart facility.’

Proposed modification.

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Interesting Times  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:27:01pm

re: #399 Belafon

It’s tough because these times go against almost all of the ways we were taught to be towards other people. How many times did we hear be nice even if the other person is an ass because we’re better than them?

Gee, sound like a certain political party we know?

415
dangerman  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:28:00pm

re: #406 wrenchwench

A bicycle helmet should suffice for that activity.

i have 5 motorcycle helmets
maybe i shoulda gone with a full face?

416
dangerman  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:28:32pm

re: #407 sagehen

Wow. She broke a federal law. I guess that means we can take her children from her?

while she awaits “trial”

417
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:30:17pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:31:37pm

re: #415 dangerman

i have 5 motorcycle helmets
maybe i shoulda gone with a full face?

Depends on your form. Back and stomach, or just back? Bicycle helmets are lighter and better ventilated. Depends what the floor is made of, also. And whether it can occur on random floors without notice.

419
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:31:50pm
420
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:32:43pm
421
TedStriker  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:37:19pm

re: #415 dangerman

i have 5 motorcycle helmets
maybe i shoulda gone with a full face?

That would at least protect you from this:

What Did The Five Fingers Say To The Face?

/

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wrenchwench  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:38:59pm

Oh, man. I was just given a slice of pizza from the place down the street that makes their own dough. Black olives, mushrooms, sausage, cheese, and what I thought was green chile turns out to be spinach. The guy was on his way home with a whole one. I benefit from where he parked.

423
JordanRules  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:40:48pm

They’ve all got the SHS down.

424
I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:41:14pm
425
JordanRules  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:46:34pm
426
Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:50:56pm

re: #419 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Red Hen page has been flagged by Yelp for increased monitoring. The places Google review score has dropped a point and a half, including one review that ironically complains the restaurant is run by bigots.

427
Big Beautiful Door  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:51:36pm

re: #392 freetoken

I have no problem with making Trumpers feel isolated as a result of their choice to support moronic malevolency.

This isn’t a case of refusing service to someone just because they are a Trump supporter. Sanders job is to lie for the President; she’s one of his top henchmen.

428
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:51:55pm
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plansbandc  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:52:12pm

re: #422 wrenchwench

I WANT!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:53:41pm
431
dangerman  Jun 23, 2018 • 1:55:13pm

to continue the mrs dm birthday celebration week, tonight is:

lamb chops
roasted green beans with lemon juice
(leftover salad)

home made angel cake with french vanilla ice cream and raspberries

danger mom is taking part in the festivities

432
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 23, 2018 • 2:01:48pm
433
Stanley Sea  Jun 23, 2018 • 2:01:50pm

Finally watched! Fucking amazing.

APES**T - THE CARTERS

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JordanRules  Jun 23, 2018 • 2:03:57pm

re: #433 Stanley Sea

It’s beautiful!

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Belafon  Jun 23, 2018 • 2:10:13pm

re: #414 Interesting Times:

And that’s where the line has to be drawn: they dont get to expect me t be the bigger person.

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makeitstop  Jun 23, 2018 • 2:17:10pm

re: #433 Stanley Sea

Finally watched! Fucking amazing.

[Embedded content]

Video

Yeah, that was real good.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 23, 2018 • 3:38:45pm

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

First they came for the refugees’ children, and I spoke up, because fuck that shit.


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