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teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2018 • 6:06:06pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2018 • 6:10:41pm
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Belafon  Jun 24, 2018 • 6:13:19pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 24, 2018 • 6:14:21pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2018 • 6:16:18pm

The video and music on this post is of the highest quality. Very good people stuff. Make sure to watch.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jun 24, 2018 • 6:17:13pm

File this under “As bad as you think it is, it’s actually worse”

And, yeah, it’s a thread.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2018 • 6:21:30pm
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Belafon  Jun 24, 2018 • 6:23:13pm

re: #6 I cannot.

File this under “As bad as you think it is, it’s actually worse”

And, yeah, it’s a thread.

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I know some conservative people around me that would definitely fight these people on this issue.

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teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2018 • 6:28:12pm
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nines09  Jun 24, 2018 • 6:36:25pm

Some here follow Stonekettle. Even if you never heard of him, now you will.
Read this. You will not regret it.

My Vasectomy And the GOP Convention

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2018 • 6:37:32pm

Was a little late in posting the response to Wrenchwench’s posting of Tor Ekelands tips for the resistance, so here it goes again:
littlegreenfootballs.com

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2018 • 6:43:27pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 24, 2018 • 6:44:15pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

With apologies to Howard Tayler, “Longgunner of the Apocalypse”.

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lawhawk  Jun 24, 2018 • 6:47:14pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Boom stick.

Seriously though, I’d consider the Marshall (after George Marshall). I know there are those who’d favor Patton since he was a tank guy, Abrams is taken, as is Bradley.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 24, 2018 • 6:48:20pm

re: #14 lawhawk

Boom stick.

Seriously though, I’d consider the Marshall (after George Marshall). I know there are those who’d favor Patton since he was a tank guy, Abrams is taken, as is Bradley.

Maybe it’s my California roots. Richter Scale

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teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2018 • 6:48:23pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2018 • 6:49:58pm

re: #10 nines09

Some here follow Stonekettle. Even if you never heard of him, now you will.
Read this. You will not regret it.

My Vasectomy And the GOP Convention

Thanks, I needed the comic relief :)

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 24, 2018 • 6:52:11pm

Oh, shit.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 24, 2018 • 6:52:59pm

re: #18 Single-handed sailor

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Oh, shit.

Dynasties are only bad when it’s the Clintons.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2018 • 6:55:33pm

re: #18 Single-handed sailor

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Oh, shit.

The less intelligent Donald Trump. Ain’t gonna happen.

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Cheechako  Jun 24, 2018 • 6:55:51pm

re: #18 Single-handed sailor

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Oh, shit.

It will be interesting to see him run from a Federal or State prison cell.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 24, 2018 • 6:59:04pm

re: #21 Cheechako

It will be interesting to see him run from a Federal or State prison cell.

Heh, already running from prison or at least like likelihood of it…

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2018 • 6:59:11pm
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wheat-dogg  Jun 24, 2018 • 6:59:11pm

re: #21 Cheechako

It will be interesting to see him run from a Federal or State prison cell.

Or, alternatively, from a foreign country with no extradition treaty with the USA.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:00:05pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:00:29pm

re: #21 Cheechako

It will be interesting to see him run from a Federal or State prison cell.

Little Trumpy will be running into the Russian Embassy to ask for asylum before Mueller gets to slap the cuffs on him.

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Cheechako  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:01:44pm

re: #24 wheat-dogg

Or, alternatively, from a foreign country with no extradition treaty with the USA.

Putin would support him.

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teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:04:38pm

If you can’t beat them here, join them there.

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William Lewis  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:06:00pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

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Crazy Horse 🏇

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Cheechako  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:13:43pm

re: #28 teleskiguy

If you can’t beat them here, join them there.

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That will make Conservative Joe Coors spin a few times in his grave.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:14:43pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:15:08pm

re: #21 Cheechako

It will be interesting to see him run from a Federal or State prison cell.

Bingo!!!

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allegro  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:16:23pm

Tanky McTankface

(I can’t believe I was the first to do that.)

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teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:16:32pm

re: #99 teleskiguy

I just got followed by @jaredpolis on Twitter, hopefully our next governor next year.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:16:51pm
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wheat-dogg  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:17:34pm

re: #35 The Vicious Babushka

TankaShane

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:17:43pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:21:13pm

re: #25 Belafon

Meghan is always hyperventilating and then being shown up as a hypocrite. It never fails.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:21:39pm

re: #10 nines09

Some here follow Stonekettle. Even if you never heard of him, now you will.
Read this. You will not regret it.

My Vasectomy And the GOP Convention

LOL. Sent to veterans (including family) in my E-mail stable.

I’ve run into a few Nurse Rachets in volunteer positions in Navy and VA hospitals.

Unloading on an authoritarian (looking at you Meghan McCain) is precisely the correct response.

Mr. Wright managed to maintain his dignity through all that, and still finds the story funny enough to post in an article (with the hilarious repetition of “Anchors Aweigh”).

Mr. Wright joined the Navy about two years after I did. I once made a post to his blog noting that as an enlisted person myself, his “take no shit” attitude and displayed qualities of leadership were the sorts of things I appreciated in an officer while I was in. I noted to him had I served under him, I would have been willing to storm the gates of Hell in a rowboat.

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:25:12pm
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sagehen  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:29:33pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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Of course Fallon regrets it; of course he would know better now.

hollywoodreporter.com

Since Trump assumed office in January 2017, Fallon’s show has lost more than one-fifth of its audience and been passed in the ratings by Stephen Colbert. Last year, Colbert and the third 11:30 p.m. host of a late-night network show, Jimmy Kimmel, received Emmy nominations for best variety talk series, but Fallon, for the first time in years, did not.

Some late-night have reacted to Trump in ways the audience appreciates, and one didn’t.

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sagehen  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:42:19pm

re: #21 Cheechako

It will be interesting to see him run from a Federal or State prison cell.

Eugene Debs did, got almost a million votes.

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:45:25pm

Sanity break:

Facebook Post

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:47:11pm

re: #44 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’ve never been more angry at my fellow Americans.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:47:48pm

re: #41 sagehen

Of course Fallon regrets it; of course he would know better now.

hollywoodreporter.com

Some late-night have reacted to Trump in ways the audience appreciates, and one didn’t.

Fallon *still* doesn’t get it. He refuses to speak truth to power, which is the duty of all good comedians with a pulpit.

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Interesting Times  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:53:12pm

re: #45 Belafon

I’ve never been more angry at my fellow Americans.

This is what’s been the most devastating realization for me personally since 2016 - that ~62 million US voters stared into the abyss that was trump, saw exactly what they liked, and jumped right in.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:53:58pm

Here they go again.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:54:03pm

re: #44 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:56:25pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:57:41pm

re: #28 teleskiguy

If you can’t beat them here, join them there.

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They’ll be making a light cannabis that doesn’t taste like anything in particular?

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allegro  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:57:50pm

re: #38 Patricia Kayden

Meghan is always hyperventilating and then being shown up as a hypocrite. It never fails.

She’s paid to hyperventilate. As far as I can tell that’s her only skill.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 24, 2018 • 7:58:34pm

Just came across a worthy 12 mins of Tony Bourdain and Bob Kramer. Kramer makes crazy knife art…. His chef’s knifes are world famous that are both workhorses and heirlooms. I can only hope Bob gifted Tony that blade.

Raw Craft with Anthony Bourdain - Episode Four: Bob Kramer

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:00:10pm

re: #38 Patricia Kayden

Meghan is always hyperventilating and then being shown up as a hypocrite. It never fails.

She would be perfectly safe eating anywhere in public, and no one would have any idea who she was, if she wasn’t trading on her father’s fame.

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freetoken  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:01:48pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

So much concern about civility.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:06:08pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

Dear Matt Lewis:

Where were you when Trump was encouraging his mob to physically assault and beat up protesters at his Nazi rallies? Where were you when Trump promised to pay lawyer fees for any rally attendees who beat up protesters? Shut the hell up with that civility nonsense at a time when the President and his imps are stealing children of color away from their parents.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:06:43pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:07:58pm

re: #54 jaunte

She would be perfectly safe eating anywhere in public, and no one would have any idea who she was, if she wasn’t trading on her father’s fame.

Meghan hasn’t done anything to deserve to be hounded out of public places. The same can’t be said about Sarah, Kirsten, Stephen, etc.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:09:34pm
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makeitstop  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:10:19pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

Here they go again.

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Dear Terry and Matt,

FYF, too.

No love OR respect,
makeitstop

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freetoken  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:10:52pm

re: #56 Patricia Kayden

Lewis has not been a Trump supporter.

What Matt Lewis is, like many of his contemporaries who started their career as concern trolls about the supposed badness of the left, a man without a political party.

There seems to be a non-trivial fraction of the, dare I say, elites among the conservatives-who-are-actually-literate who really have no where to go.

They seem to have missed some important memo.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:12:36pm

re: #59 jaunte

Sorry, Erick, it’s not Obama’s job to make white people like Trump again.

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Interesting Times  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:14:05pm

re: #55 freetoken

So much concern about civility.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:15:43pm
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freetoken  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:15:57pm

re: #62 Belafon

Sorry, Erick, it’s not Obama’s job to make white people like Trump again.

Ought to tweet that, it’s the perfect reply.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:20:10pm
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jaunte  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:20:29pm

“…Mid Continent is one of the largest employers in Butler County and the second largest manufacturer in Poplar Bluff. If push comes to shove, slicing the remaining 440 jobs that pay an average of $12.50 an hour would add to the Bootheel’s struggling reputation marked by several of the poorest counties in the state.

Mid Continent is owned by Mexico-based Deacero. The parent company produces steel and ships the material to its Poplar Bluff plant. Spokesperson Elizabeth Heaton tells Missourinet Deacero is being hit with the 25% tariff for importing steel to its own company.”

Trump is doing such a good job on the economy, what’s the big deal? Why not let him kidnap a few brown kids?

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meteor  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:20:43pm
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Cheechako  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:21:09pm

re: #59 jaunte

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I think President Obama would dearly like to get into this fight over immigration. But, that would turn the focus on him and wouldn’t help the issue at all.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:21:22pm

re: #55 freetoken

So much concern about civility.

Concern trolls gotta concern.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:21:31pm
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jaunte  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:21:54pm

re: #69 Cheechako

Yep, and that’s what Erickson is hoping for.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:23:02pm

re: #57 Belafon

Perhaps he needs to be directed to Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr’s “Letter from a Birmingham Jail.”

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plansbandc  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:23:44pm

re: #41 sagehen

He’s been dead to me since he normalized Trump. Absolute zero tolerance for that shit.

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freetoken  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:25:15pm

Long ago, in a galaxy far, far away…

The Detroit tribune., September 22, 1962, Page 5, Image 5
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jaunte  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:25:34pm

Could this mass abduction get creepier? Yes it could.

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Interesting Times  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:28:11pm

re: #70 Anymouse 🌹

Concern trolls gotta concern.

And in this climate, they’re nothing less than complicit enablers:

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:29:00pm
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jaunte  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:30:27pm
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Interesting Times  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:32:17pm

Glad to see all this pushback on the “civility” fuckwittery:

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:36:32pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:36:37pm

re: #51 jaunte

They’ll be making a light cannabis that doesn’t taste like anything in particular?

Drinking Coors Light is like having sex in a canoe. It’s fucking next to water. I wouldn’t be surprised if they made Marlboro Green Ultra Lights.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:38:49pm

they’ve lost count…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:42:12pm

re: #76 jaunte

Could this mass abduction get creepier? Yes it could.

Conservatism is a religion.

Forcing anyone to say the “Pledge of Allegiance” is a violation of the law. The Supreme Court heard that case in the middle of WW2.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:42:52pm

re: #83 Single-handed sailor

The actual number doesn’t mean much unless Congress is willing to do something about it.

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teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:43:23pm

re: #84 Anymouse 🌹

Conservatism is a religion cult.

Forcing anyone to say the “Pledge of Allegiance” is a violation of the law. The Supreme Court heard that case in the middle of WW2.

FTFY

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:44:31pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:45:04pm

re: #75 freetoken

Long ago, in a galaxy far, far away…

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George Romney paid the price for standing up for Civil Rights and saying that he had been lied to about Vietnam.

It’s a shame his son has absolutely NONE of his integrity, decency or morality.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:45:17pm

Thread:

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:45:47pm

re: #81 jaunte

The people making these arguments against ostracizing officials are conflating heckling with mob violence.

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teleskiguy  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:49:18pm

re: #90 Belafon

And they are conflating women ending their pregnancies in the first trimester to child killers.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:49:58pm

re: #90 Belafon

The people making these arguments against ostracizing officials are conflating heckling with mob violence.

They want the left (and others) who are opposed to such policies to be quiet. Protest (if you must) in ways that don’t offend us.

This is not the Soviet Union (yet). We have a right to bawl out public officials in this country. If you do not use your rights, you will surely lose them.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:49:59pm

re: #35 The Vicious Babushka

Did anybody go for Don’t Tread On Me?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:51:54pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:52:49pm

re: #90 Belafon

re: #91 teleskiguy

Such false equivalencies are the stock-in-trade of those who would criminalise or kill others.

If you equate an abortion with killing a baby, then you are justified (if enough people agree) in killing a person performing one “in defence of another.”

If you equate “protest” with “violence,” then you are justified in ending protests to prevent violence.

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:53:18pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:57:02pm
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Interesting Times  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:59:11pm

re: #96 Belafon

This little fable bears repeating:

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makeitstop  Jun 24, 2018 • 8:59:36pm

re: #95 Anymouse 🌹

Such false equivalencies are the stock-in-trade of those who would criminalise or kill others.

If you equate an abortion with killing a baby, then you are justified (if enough people agree) in killing a person performing one “in defence of another.”

If you equate “protest” with “violence,” then you are justified in ending protests to prevent violence.

Or respond with violence in the name of self defense.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 24, 2018 • 9:03:04pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 24, 2018 • 9:09:23pm

re: #100 Single-handed sailor

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mmmirele  Jun 24, 2018 • 9:10:35pm

A couple of things.

(1)
I was listening to the BBC World Service earlier this evening and one of the topics was the upcoming Mexican election (one week to go, July 1). The reporter pointed out that things have gotten very unpleasant over the last 12 years, since Felipe Calderon came to office and tried to crack down on the cartels. Now the cartels are everywhere, including the tourist locations like Guadalajara and Acapulco, but have also taken up residence in Mexico City itself. I was astonished to hear a discussion that one way forward for the Mexican government might be a “truce” where the cartels do their thing, but stop attacking “civilians.” Yikes.

(2)
I’m completely unimpressed with all the cries of civility coming out of the Washington Post, McCain and others. *Completely.* I’ve been told I was wrong to picket Scientology, wrong to picket churches because of child abuse tolerated and covered up within their walls. But sometimes you have to get into people’s faces to get change going. And I bet NONE of these people have ever had anyone picket their homes (I have) or had the entire neighborhood plastered with signs saying “Religious Bigot” and my ugly mug on them. Did that stop me from picketing? Nope. If anything, it confirmed the rightness of what I was doing. The fact that people are getting bent out of shape about so-called civility not being shown to racists and people who have no problem separating children from parents…well, f*ck ‘em. I’m tired of it.

I’m especially tired by the Post’s tone-deaf statement that pro-lifers have been nice to pro-choice people. That is complete and utter bullshit. Doctors have been assassinated, people have been gunned down in clinic waiting rooms. That’s not nice. Not in the least. That was just so stupid and anti-factual I have to wonder who wrote that drivel.

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sagehen  Jun 24, 2018 • 9:17:42pm

re: #92 Anymouse 🌹

They want the left (and others) who are opposed to such policies to be quiet. Protest (if you must) in ways that don’t offend us.

This is not the Soviet Union (yet). We have a right to bawl out public officials in this country. If you do not use your rights, you will surely lose them.

They don’t care if protesters are quiet. That’s today’s claim, but… football players tried that, didn’t they? They were totally quiet. Dropped to one knee, didn’t make a sound. Then a couple of minutes later stood up again, played the game ticket buyers were there for.

And the right went apeshit over it.

Protesting quietly won’t satisfy them. There is literally no form of protest that won’t upset them. The only possible way to get them to stop whining about it is to not protest. Anything. Ever. By any means.

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freetoken  Jun 24, 2018 • 9:21:19pm

re: #102 mmmirele

One of the tragedies of the US making drug addiction illegal is that we outsourced our illicit drug production and distribution.

Before WWII, America had drug problems too. Indeed, in some parts of the country doctors had so over-recommended opiates and such that it became a real problem.

This was long, long before the current “opiate crisis” which Trump likes to exploit.

Anyway, the problem with creating (through zealous prohibition) an industry of illegal substances is that the criminality of the industry beckons the worst in society to become party to the activities.

So the US became an importer of billions of dollars of illegal drugs.

It doesn’t surprise me that Mexico as a nation has such a hard time trying to control these now billionaire-cartels. As long as there is that much money to be made, there will be people to do the beckoning of the mob leaders.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 24, 2018 • 9:29:26pm

Thread (four tweets):

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Belafon  Jun 24, 2018 • 9:40:31pm

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2018 • 9:44:30pm
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mmmirele  Jun 24, 2018 • 9:46:13pm

Oh, and speaking of civility. I noted that John Legend was trending tonight (BET awards). So I clicked on it. The second tweet was from some numnutz who said that Legend and his wife Chrissy Teigen are into “spirit cooking” and are pedophiles (you know that whole Pizzagate thing). That’s the kind of bullshit out there.

I was a child and teenager in the 1960s and 1970s, but I’m not old enough to remember. Was it just as divided then, or is it worse now?

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2018 • 9:54:27pm
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wheat-dogg  Jun 24, 2018 • 9:56:35pm

re: #108 mmmirele

Oh, and speaking of civility. I noted that John Legend was trending tonight (BET awards). So I clicked on it. The second tweet was from some numnutz who said that Legend and his wife Chrissy Teigen are into “spirit cooking” and are pedophiles (you know that whole Pizzagate thing). That’s the kind of bullshit out there.

I was a child and teenager in the 1960s and 1970s, but I’m not old enough to remember. Was it just as divided then, or is it worse now?

The crazies were limited to their mimeographed newsletters and occasional local meetings back then. If there was a national organization (John Birch Society, for ex), they might have been able to read a monthly newsletter, but the communication was one-way only. Now, they have the Internet to stay in constant contact to reinforce their cockeyed world views, and with the right wing media amplifying that craziness 24/7, it’s even worse.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 24, 2018 • 9:59:03pm

re: #108 mmmirele

Oh, and speaking of civility. I noted that John Legend was trending tonight (BET awards). So I clicked on it. The second tweet was from some numnutz who said that Legend and his wife Chrissy Teigen are into “spirit cooking” and are pedophiles (you know that whole Pizzagate thing). That’s the kind of bullshit out there.

I was a child and teenager in the 1960s and 1970s, but I’m not old enough to remember. Was it just as divided then, or is it worse now?

MM, as somebody who lived through the 60s there was a lot of unrest over Civil Rights. Before the 1964 law was passed there were plenty of places in my hometown that were segregated or “restricted”. There was a lot of white backlash against Dr. King and it was gladly incubated by the Birchers.

People forget that George Wallace initially ran for President against LBJ in 1964 and he got a high percentage of the vote in Maryland, Wisconsin and Indiana. He also got a lot of write-in votes in Pennsylvania’s non-binding preference primary. I remember the day after the primary. Mom was the judge of elections in our precinct and she was FURIOUS about all the Wallace write-ins.

But for me the major shift appeared in the churches. Back in the early 60s most churches were welcoming and open places. Now there were a couple Birch Churches but they were marginalized. But starting in the 70s, the Hunt Brothers put up the seed money for Falwell’s Moral Majority and they also underwrote Pat Robertson’s 700 Club. Anita Bryant was groomed to be the leader of the gay haters and she hit her stride in Florida when gay civil rights ordinances were repealed. All of a sudden churches that used to say God Loves You flipped to God Hates Gays and Lesbians. More and more churches became Bircher Churches. You saw Catholics abandoning the Democratic Party over the race issue plus abortion. It was encouraged by Billy Graham Cracker and his Pulpit Pimping Pals.

Now they were using the “dog whistles” of busing, affirmative action and intolerance to peel the Reagan Democrats out of the Democratic Party and it showed as you saw George Wallace winning Democratic primaries in 1972.

But now you don’t have the dog whistles anymore. Racism is now out in the open and Trump plays that shit with every tweet.

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jaunte  Jun 24, 2018 • 9:59:42pm
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jaunte  Jun 24, 2018 • 10:02:57pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 24, 2018 • 10:02:58pm

re: #108 mmmirele

Oh, and speaking of civility. I noted that John Legend was trending tonight (BET awards). So I clicked on it. The second tweet was from some numnutz who said that Legend and his wife Chrissy Teigen are into “spirit cooking” and are pedophiles (you know that whole Pizzagate thing). That’s the kind of bullshit out there.

I was a child and teenager in the 1960s and 1970s, but I’m not old enough to remember. Was it just as divided then, or is it worse now?

It was as badly divided, but without the Internet to amplify it.

The Sixties had anti-Vietnam protests, and the right claiming the left was commies or anti-American. The Sixties also had the Civil Rights Movement, with the attendant murders by conservatives of those standing up for their own rights (or those standing up for the rights of others), and conservatives claiming civil rights activists were commies or anti-American. Various cities burned in race riots.

The Seventies had of course the Nixon scandals and more anti-Vietnam War protests, and the right claiming the left was commies or anti-American.

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BeachDem  Jun 24, 2018 • 10:09:21pm

re: #108 mmmirele

Oh, and speaking of civility. I noted that John Legend was trending tonight (BET awards). So I clicked on it. The second tweet was from some numnutz who said that Legend and his wife Chrissy Teigen are into “spirit cooking” and are pedophiles (you know that whole Pizzagate thing). That’s the kind of bullshit out there.

I was a child and teenager in the 1960s and 1970s, but I’m not old enough to remember. Was it just as divided then, or is it worse now?

Gotta be that lunatic Liz Crokin—she’s been spreadin’ shit about Chrissy and John for quite some time. She is BONKERS.

washingtonpost.com

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Kragar  Jun 24, 2018 • 10:10:52pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jun 24, 2018 • 10:12:03pm
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jun 24, 2018 • 10:12:27pm

re: #108 mmmirele

Oh, and speaking of civility. I noted that John Legend was trending tonight (BET awards). So I clicked on it. The second tweet was from some numnutz who said that Legend and his wife Chrissy Teigen are into “spirit cooking” and are pedophiles (you know that whole Pizzagate thing). That’s the kind of bullshit out there.

I was a child and teenager in the 1960s and 1970s, but I’m not old enough to remember. Was it just as divided then, or is it worse now?

Like most of the other respondents, I ‘d say it was at least as divided, but social media amplifies it. Oh, and the Soviets weren’t able to have the effect they’re having now because Cold War time. Contrarians and custard-heads said they were our friends, but most people didn’t buy it.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jun 24, 2018 • 10:15:52pm

re: #113 jaunte

The NYT conveniently forgets in all these stories that the number of people who admit to being Republican continues to shrink. Which affect total numbers (who’d’a thought it?).

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Teukka  Jun 24, 2018 • 10:18:02pm
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jaunte  Jun 24, 2018 • 10:22:54pm
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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 24, 2018 • 10:27:09pm

The Senate Intelligence Committee’s vice chairman couldn’t resist mentioning the Russia probe.

“If you get me one more glass of wine, I’ll tell you stuff only Bob Mueller and I know,” Warner joked to party-goers. “If you think you’ve seen wild stuff so far, buckle up. It’s going to be a wild couple of months.”

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wheat-dogg  Jun 24, 2018 • 10:30:13pm

re: #122 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

The Senate Intelligence Committee’s vice chairman couldn’t resist mentioning the Russia probe.

“If you get me one more glass of wine, I’ll tell you stuff only Bob Mueller and I know,” Warner joked to party-goers. “If you think you’ve seen wild stuff so far, buckle up. It’s going to be a wild couple of months.”

Not sure it’s a joke. Mueller’s still warming up for a no-hitter.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 24, 2018 • 10:33:03pm

re: #123 wheat-dogg

Not sure it’s a joke. Mueller’s still warming up for a no-hitter.

?? you mean mueller’s going to be pitching a no hitter and shutting the trump team out or the other way around?

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Chrysicat  Jun 24, 2018 • 10:33:31pm
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wheat-dogg  Jun 24, 2018 • 10:34:41pm

re: #124 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

?? you mean mueller’s going to be pitching a no hitter and shutting the trump team out or the other way around?

Mueller’s the pitcher. Says Who is at bat.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 24, 2018 • 10:35:48pm

Great. I just got a call that the village shop is flooding (something is wrong with the well).

I don’t get paid to be the water operator, why am I on twenty-four hour call?

I’ll be back in a bit, you poor devils.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 24, 2018 • 10:52:53pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jun 24, 2018 • 10:54:17pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 24, 2018 • 10:54:54pm

re: #88 Joe Bacon 🌹

George Romney paid the price for standing up for Civil Rights and saying that he had been lied to about Vietnam.

It’s a shame his son has absolutely NONE of his integrity, decency or morality.

George Romney was a good man; but he was a Republican in an era where having decent values was not incompatible with being a Republican. His son certainly abandoned any values he may have had when he ran in 2012; he is not the man his father was. In the age of Trump, he has shown himself to be the same coward or traitor (except perhaps McCain) that every other Washington Republican has proved themselves to be.

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austin_blue  Jun 24, 2018 • 10:59:17pm

re: #122 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

The Senate Intelligence Committee’s vice chairman couldn’t resist mentioning the Russia probe.

“If you get me one more glass of wine, I’ll tell you stuff only Bob Mueller and I know,” Warner joked to party-goers. “If you think you’ve seen wild stuff so far, buckle up. It’s going to be a wild couple of months.”

Gee, what could it be?

themoscowproject.org

themoscowproject.org

businessinsider.com

nytimes.com

vox.com

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Jun 24, 2018 • 11:00:19pm

la plus ça change…

This physical explanation of the source of change, like Anaxagoras’s analysis of the nature of the sun, seemed to deny the validity of the entire superstructure of traditional religion, which explained events as the outcome of divine forces. Many people feared that the teachings of the sophists and philosophers could offend the gods and therefore erode the divine favor that they believed Athens to enjoy. Just like a murderer, a teacher spouting doctrines offensive to the gods could bring pollution and therefore divine punishment on the whole community. So deeply felt was this anxiety that Pericles’ friendship with Protagoras, Anaxagoras, and other controversial intellectuals gave his rivals a weapon to use against him when political tensions came to a head in the 430s B.c. as a result of the threat of war with Sparta. Pericles’ opponents criticized him as sympathetic to dangerous new ideas

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JordanRules  Jun 24, 2018 • 11:02:41pm
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sagehen  Jun 24, 2018 • 11:03:49pm

re: #108 mmmirele

Oh, and speaking of civility. I noted that John Legend was trending tonight (BET awards). So I clicked on it. The second tweet was from some numnutz who said that Legend and his wife Chrissy Teigen are into “spirit cooking” and are pedophiles (you know that whole Pizzagate thing). That’s the kind of bullshit out there.

I was a child and teenager in the 1960s and 1970s, but I’m not old enough to remember. Was it just as divided then, or is it worse now?

It was divided, but over actual real-life measurable things. Did you support or oppose civil rights and desegregation, did you support or oppose the Vietnam War, did you support or oppose long hair or pot-smoking or rock music or premarital sex, or… any number of things that actually existed in the measurable physical world.

People on both sides of every issue lived in the real world.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 24, 2018 • 11:06:42pm

There’s been an escape:
15 year-old migrant boy runs away from Texas child care facility

The boy ran from Casa Padre, run by Southwest Key, and is now in Mexico, according to a source with direct knowledge.

Cheetolini will probably order a purge of camp commandants when he wakes up.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 24, 2018 • 11:08:43pm

re: #128 Single-handed sailor

I quoted TSO’Neill chapter and verse from the Constitution he appears not be so familiar with.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 24, 2018 • 11:10:39pm

re: #135 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

There’s been an escape:
15 year-old migrant boy runs away from Texas child care facility

Cheetolini will probably order a purge of camp commandants when he wakes up.

He will send them to the Eastern Front.

Oh, wait …

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sagehen  Jun 24, 2018 • 11:11:13pm

re: #124 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

?? you mean mueller’s going to be pitching a no hitter and shutting the trump team out or the other way around?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 24, 2018 • 11:15:03pm

re: #131 austin_blue

Gee, what could it be?

themoscowproject.org

themoscowproject.org

businessinsider.com

nytimes.com

vox.com

Has anyone cartooned Trump as the Hindenburg going up in flames? It’s already a good fit and will probably get much better.

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austin_blue  Jun 24, 2018 • 11:15:22pm

That’s it. I’m for the rack. Please read the links in in my #131. It’s illuminating how deep the Drumpf organization is into laundering Russian money.

Plain as day and it’s been going on for years.

These are high crimes and misdemeanors, dead bang.

The whole Family is set up as a money laundering organization. They’ve got a RICO case glued to them like a cheap tattoo.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 24, 2018 • 11:15:23pm

re: #108 mmmirele

Oh, and speaking of civility. I noted that John Legend was trending tonight (BET awards). So I clicked on it. The second tweet was from some numnutz who said that Legend and his wife Chrissy Teigen are into “spirit cooking” and are pedophiles (you know that whole Pizzagate thing). That’s the kind of bullshit out there.

I was a child and teenager in the 1960s and 1970s, but I’m not old enough to remember. Was it just as divided then, or is it worse now?

It was different. But we had assassinations of a President, his brother, and a great Civil Rights Leader. There were riots in the streets, tens of thousands of Americans were dying in a meaningless war in VietNam, 4 students were murdered by the National Guard in Kent State, Ohio, civil rights workers were murdered in Mississippi, and many feared a nuclear conflagration. Of course, we didn’t then elect George Wallace as President nor was our president treasonous trash who praises dictators. But the country survived those times and we will survive this too. Politics can turn on a dime, and just because we appear to be in the darkest of times, doesn’t mean that we won’t emerge stronger from having learned the worst about ourselves and our neighbors.

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Kragar  Jun 24, 2018 • 11:15:23pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 24, 2018 • 11:16:22pm

So…it’s just me, right?

Hayabusa2 Approaches Asteroid Ryugu

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 24, 2018 • 11:24:46pm

A quote I saw on FB answers the question on civility:

“Nice people made the best Nazis. My mom grew up next to them. They got along, refused to make waves, looked the other way when things got ugly and focused on happier things than “politics.” They were lovely people who turned their heads as their neighbors were dragged away. You know who weren’t nice people? Resisters.”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 24, 2018 • 11:29:23pm

It’s 83 degrees at 1:30 AM here in the wilderness west of Fort Worth. It’s worse in Lubbock, though. They have 87 degrees, wind at 30mph and blowing dust. Hell must be like that: Hot, dark and full of conservatives.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 24, 2018 • 11:30:50pm

re: #145 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

It’s 83 degrees at 1:30 AM here in the wilderness west of Fort Worth. It’s worse in Lubbock, though. They have 87 degrees, wind at 30mph and blowing dust. Hell must be like that: Hot, dark and full of conservatives.

… but no beer.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 24, 2018 • 11:32:13pm

I laughed at this one.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 24, 2018 • 11:33:31pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 24, 2018 • 11:42:08pm

Stonekettle really nailed it with this tweet:

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jun 25, 2018 • 12:06:33am

re: #143 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

So…it’s just me, right?

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God rolls 1D6.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 25, 2018 • 12:08:16am

Well (pun intended), I’m back.

The well is not leaking. My wife and I spent an hour or so running and inspecting the well and chlorine pump. Nada.

Discovered the water in the shop is from the roof leaking (apparently damaged by the tornado last month). Roof repair is not in my job description.

Went over to the chairwoman’s house at midnight to inform her of what’s up, as she will need to get a roof inspector over.

—- —- —-

Trump Administration report shows refugees added $63 billion to US economy over the past decade. Trump White House then killed the report they ordered and demanded it be manipulated to only show costs and not profits. nytimes.com

— Joe Scarborough

Man who gave Trump endless airtime, even after Trump insulted his wife, and never apologised says what? Besides, that piece of news is not new.

Waiting for your apology Mr. Scarborough. Oh, you’re a party before country guy.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 25, 2018 • 12:35:44am

LOL, Last Week Tonight. Norway!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 25, 2018 • 12:36:15am

re: #145 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

It’s 83 degrees at 1:30 AM here in the wilderness west of Fort Worth. It’s worse in Lubbock, though. They have 87 degrees, wind at 30mph and blowing dust. Hell must be like that: Hot, dark and full of conservatives.

We have conservatives, but it is 57 here at Chez Tumbleweed now.

We’re scheduled for high 90s and low 100s in the next couple days though. Ugh. I’ll be checking on my elderly neighbours to make sure everyone is okay (many people here don’t have air conditioners - for that matter, mine hasn’t been replaced yet after tornado damage).

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 25, 2018 • 12:41:41am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 25, 2018 • 1:10:32am

Terrorism cell linked to crimes in Minnesota, Illinois, Indiana (Goes to the Southern Policy Law Center)

New federal charges shed light on a cell of suspected domestic terrorists known as the “White Rabbits” who allegedly were involved in assorted crimes, including firearms violations and fire-bombings of an Islamic Center and a women’s health clinic.

Additionally, the suspects have been linked by federal investigators to robbing Walmart stores and drug dealers to fund their campaign of domestic terrorism, bombing Canadian National railroad tracks and extortion of the railway company.

Michael Hari, 47, Michael McWhorter, 29 and Joe Morris, 22, all of Clarence, Illinois, were named in a superseding indictment returned Thursday in Minnesota, charging them with federal civil rights and hate crime violations related to an explosion at the Dar al-Farooq Islamic Center (DAF) in Bloomington, Minnesota, on August 5, 2017.

The three men, along with Ellis Mack, 18, also of Clarence, Illinois, were arrested on March 13 and currently are in custody in Urbana, Illinois, on federal charges of illegally possessing a machine gun and conspiracy to interfere with commerce by threats and violence. Hari is also charged with possession of a firearm by a felon.

(more)

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 25, 2018 • 1:12:17am
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Single-handed sailor  Jun 25, 2018 • 1:16:02am
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teleskiguy  Jun 25, 2018 • 1:19:10am
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Single-handed sailor  Jun 25, 2018 • 1:31:10am

re: #158 teleskiguy

I had a history teacher in 1970 that was a soldier in the late 50s. He crouched in a trench as they detonated a nuclear bomb and then marched into the blast zone minutes later during Nevada testing. He had some stories.

On a side note one of the girls in that class went on to become a porn star. Trivia can be weird.

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freetoken  Jun 25, 2018 • 2:00:02am
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Chrysicat  Jun 25, 2018 • 2:08:13am
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Teukka  Jun 25, 2018 • 2:29:13am

re: #144 Hecuba’s daughter

A quote I saw on FB answers the question on civility:

“Nice people made the best Nazis. My mom grew up next to them. They got along, refused to make waves, looked the other way when things got ugly and focused on happier things than “politics.” They were lovely people who turned their heads as their neighbors were dragged away. You know who weren’t nice people? Resisters.”

“Never, never be afraid to do what’s right, especially if the well-being of a person or animal is at stake. Society’s punishments are small compared to the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way.”
— Rev. Martin Luther King Jr

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SteelPH  Jun 25, 2018 • 2:32:08am

re: #162 Chrysicat

Non-citizen = foreign invader?

By that logic, anyone traveling here, regardless of country of origin, would be a foreign invader. Hell, he’d be considered a foreign invader if he traveled abroad.

These people make me grind my teeth.

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Chrysicat  Jun 25, 2018 • 2:33:38am

re: #162 Chrysicat

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Not that it should matter much one way or the other, but I’m trying to influence any of his followers who might be sitting on the fence, feel that ‘illegal means illegal’, but still draw the line at genocide and filling Quiverfulls’—well—quivers.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 25, 2018 • 2:37:04am

re: #164 SteelPH

Non-citizen = foreign invader?

By that logic, anyone traveling here, regardless of country of origin, would be a foreign invader. Hell, he’d be considered a foreign invader if he traveled abroad.

These people make me grind my teeth.

Invaders generally come uninvited, in force and carrying weapons with the intent to do harm. They don’t generally come with wife and children in tow with the intent to settle in and make a new home. Those people are called immigrants.

Xenophobia sucks.

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2018 • 2:46:05am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 25, 2018 • 2:59:02am

I’m positive that Sparky just needed an outlet but his parents were so negative that he had to show resistance and give them a lot of static.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 25, 2018 • 3:03:21am

re: #168 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

That’s re-volting! Watt are you talking about?

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 25, 2018 • 3:07:15am

re: #168 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Watt?

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 25, 2018 • 3:08:42am

Note to self.

Always refresh before posting.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 25, 2018 • 3:10:44am

re: #168 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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I’m positive that Sparky just needed an outlet but his parents were so negative that he had to show resistance and give them a lot of static.

I heard he got short with them and blew a fuse. Had to open the window to let the smoke out. To much high tension on the line.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 25, 2018 • 3:14:05am

re: #172 Dave In Austin

I heard he got short with them and blew a fuse. Had to open the window to let the smoke out. To much high tension on the line.

They needed to keep an ‘appy ohm.

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Alephnaught  Jun 25, 2018 • 3:16:04am

re: #173 wheat-dogg

They needed to keep an ‘appy ohm.

Kraftwerk - Ohm Sweet Ohm

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Chrysicat  Jun 25, 2018 • 3:28:27am
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 25, 2018 • 3:31:44am

Lubbock logic:

Facebook Post

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wheat-dogg  Jun 25, 2018 • 3:36:00am

Such a waste

No one was injured, fortunately. But the car …

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freetoken  Jun 25, 2018 • 3:36:03am

While the combination of Trump’s narcissism with latent bigotry in America is inherently bad in itself, one of the side effects is that we in the US have been in large part drawn in Trump’s narcissism by spending our time trying to combat it.

And that means a lot of things around this world are going on without much of a notice at all by us here in the US.

Among those things is what is happening in Yemen:

Fighting moves closer to centre of Yemen’s main port city

Yemen’s Houthis deployed additional forces in the main port city of Hodeidah on Sunday as a Saudi-led military coalition moved closer to the city centre in the largest offensive of the war, raising U.N. fears of a humanitarian catastrophe.

The alliance led by Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates launched its assault on the heavily defended Red Sea city on June 12 to try to weaken the Iran-aligned Houthi movement by cutting off a key supply line for the group, which controls the capital Sanaa and most populated areas.

[…]

I guess for many of us in America, those people over there are, well, over there, and whatever happens to them is no concern to us (even though we are involved.)

However, over in the peninsula which for Trump only exists as a stage on which to parade his outsized ego, there is this:

S. Korean island begins refugee process for Yemeni asylum seekers

South Korea’s resort island of Jeju started on Monday refugee status reviews for Yemeni asylum seekers fleeing from civil war.

Jeju Office of Immigration chief Kim Do-gyun said a total of 486 Yemeni asylum seekers have applied for refugee status and the office will be reviewing two to three per day, Yonhap reported.

[…]

While albeit small in number of refugees, still, here is a country with not a lot of land, with a world-hot-button border, who nevertheless are aware of the problem and willing to help.

I realize there are not many news briefings anymore coming from the WH, but whenever the next one occurs, I wonder if any media rep there will inquire how many refugees the US is planning on taking?

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Chrysicat  Jun 25, 2018 • 3:36:10am

Please tell me re: #176 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Lubbock logic:

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Please tell me that either you don’t know the Struve family or they don’t cleave to Mr. May’s thought processes…the wife was my family’s next-door neighbour before she and her daughter moved there and she’s still one of my mother’s best friends…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 3:39:00am

re: #176 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Lubbock logic:

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She banned a Donald Trump employee dumbass and both you and SHS have called it “liberty” to deny someone a service because they’re gay. Karma is a bitch.

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Chrysicat  Jun 25, 2018 • 3:53:36am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 3:56:48am

re: #181 Chrysicat

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Somehow I don’t think he was saying this to wingnuts who called Obama, Hitler over urging empathy.

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Chrysicat  Jun 25, 2018 • 4:02:02am

re: #182 HappyWarrior

Somehow I don’t think he was saying this to wingnuts who called Obama, Hitler over urging empathy.

Yeah, that post right there pretty much confirms that.

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2018 • 4:06:51am

re: #181 Chrysicat

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 4:18:21am

Nazis actually went after political opponents before Jews.

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2018 • 4:26:13am

re: #185 HappyWarrior

Nazis actually went after political opponents before Jews.

And their own. What little could even remotely be considered the left wing of the Nazi party, the Strasserites, were eliminated during the night of the long knives as well as the leadership strata of the Sturmabteilung.

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Chrysicat  Jun 25, 2018 • 4:28:37am

re: #186 Teukka

And their own. What little could even remotely be considered the left wing of the Nazi party, the Strasserites, were eliminated during the night of the long knives as well as the leadership strata of the Sturmabteilung.

Oy. Who would’ve thought that when the History Channel turned into the All-Hitler-All-the-Time channel, we should have been watching until everything was a rerun, so that we could see the threats of the future?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 4:31:07am

re: #186 Teukka

And their own. What little could even remotely be considered the left wing of the Nazi party, the Strasserites, were eliminated during the night of the long knives as well as the leadership strata of the Sturmabteilung.

Yep.

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Chrysicat  Jun 25, 2018 • 4:32:06am
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 25, 2018 • 4:32:21am

re: #76 jaunte

WTH?

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Chrysicat  Jun 25, 2018 • 4:35:22am

re: #190 Patricia Kayden

re: #190 Patricia Kayden

WTH?

Not like we didn’t already know not one of them would be given back to their parents or permitted their Maya heritage, right? As soon as it became clear they were running an orphan machine, I expected they’d try to turn them all into ‘good Americans’.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 4:36:50am

re: #187 Chrysicat

Oy. Who would’ve thought that when the History Channel turned into the All-Hitler-All-the-Time channel, we should have been watching until everything was a rerun, so that we could see the threats of the future?

That’s part of why I can see the parrellels. There are other groups too. Trump has a bit of Mussolini in him too.

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A Mom Anon  Jun 25, 2018 • 4:38:46am

re: #186 Teukka

The fucking Nazis also went after people with autism, people with physical disabilities and mental illnesses too. They were among the first subjected to medical experiments and other shit.

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Chrysicat  Jun 25, 2018 • 4:40:36am

re: #193 A Mom Anon

The fucking Nazis also went after people with autism, people with physical disabilities and mental illnesses too. They were among the first subjected to medical experiments and other shit.

This person-on-the-spectrum thanks you ever so for reminding her of that. I have told my parents repeatedly that there wasn’t enough SSI even last year let alone now to make it worth being diagnosed officially.

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2018 • 4:43:00am

re: #193 A Mom Anon

The fucking Nazis also went after people with autism, people with physical disabilities and mental illnesses too. They were among the first subjected to medical experiments and other shit.

Yep. Aktion T4. Aktion T4 is often forgotten, as are the Vehrmachts field brothels in occupied Poland.

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2018 • 4:43:22am

re: #190 Patricia Kayden

WTH?

Not surprised. This is gonna get worse.

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Chrysicat  Jun 25, 2018 • 4:49:54am

(Sorry to be so redundant about this one. Getting extra-angry while watching Morning Joe claim this will finally be the step that brings Congress to life.)

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2018 • 4:50:58am

re: #187 Chrysicat

Oy. Who would’ve thought that when the History Channel turned into the All-Hitler-All-the-Time channel, we should have been watching until everything was a rerun, so that we could see the threats of the future?

“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it does rhyme.”
— Mark Twain (I think)

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Chrysicat  Jun 25, 2018 • 4:52:19am

re: #197 Chrysicat

Then again, I don’t know why I’m hoping for an impeachment on this; that would bring us at least 4 months of Pence, and he’s just as fascist as the *rezident, just not quite as eager to start with the Mayan Genocide.

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2018 • 4:53:28am

re: #199 Chrysicat

Then again, I don’t know why I’m hoping for an impeachment on this; that would bring us at least 4 months of Pence, and he’s just as fascist as the *rezident, just not quite as eager to start with the Mayan Genocide.

*whispers “God Emperor Trump”*

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 25, 2018 • 5:04:32am

re: #116 Kragar

She chose to engage in racism and anti-Semitism. She can puss off with that “woe is me” crap.

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freetoken  Jun 25, 2018 • 5:07:38am

I know it’s popular to compare Trump and his Trumpers to Nazis, and even Godwin has weighed in on this matter, but I want to go back to what I was trying to communicate back in 2016.

That is, comparing Trump to the literal Nazi party is not the best way to think of what is going on. The term I was trying to propagate is fascistic.

Trump and his followers exhibit a form of a fascistic social movement.

Why did/does Trump have the followers that we see?

In my way of thinking, there are three fundamental elements coming into play here:
1) the loss of independence;
2) the loss-of-God problem;
3) the cultural differences of the other.

Here and in many forums, number 3) is being emphasized but I think for the US that is not the most important (which is why I put it third.)

My contention before is that Trumpism is much more similar to Italian fascism and also the Brazilian fascist movement, than to Nazi Germany.

Trump does what he does for reasons. He is not some giant random number generator.

The reason before and after the election that Trump spends so much time on trade, now on tariffs and trade wars, is because of the first issue I listed above.

Globalization of “the economy” has meant that Americans can lose their jobs very easily, or, end up working for a foreign corporation with an operation here in the US. In either case, globalization in combination with automation has meant that job security is lost for a great many American workers.

Yes, our own domestic policies of favoring the rich over the poor contributes to this, but underlying even that is the truth that a rich person can move around their wealth from nation to nation (see Trump’s friends, for example.)

The second big problem, which Trump loves to acknowledge through all this shoulder-rubbing with fundamentalists, is the loss-of-God problem.

Religion has been very important in American history. Americans on the whole are among the most religious people in the “first world”.

Modernity has ceaselessly attacked the idea of “God” in general, and in particular the specific God-of-the-Book of fundamentalist Christianity.

To lose their job security (through globalization) and eternal security (through loss of God) has made many Americans easy to manipulate by expert hucksters.

And Trump is, if anything, and maybe only this, an expert huckster.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 25, 2018 • 5:10:14am

re: #136 wheat-dogg

I quoted TSO’Neill chapter and verse from the Constitution he appears not be so familiar with.

Methinks ol’ TS is a Russian troll.

Reported and blocked but I know Jack won’t do anything.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 25, 2018 • 5:14:28am

re: #53 Dave In Austin

re: #53 Dave In Austin

Yeah, his knives are beauties. I have made it a quest to obtain one. It is not an easy process. Nor an inexpensive one. May not have the money to eat afterwords, but I will have a knife.

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Chrysicat  Jun 25, 2018 • 5:15:58am

re: #202 freetoken

No, it’s not Trumpism that’s fascistic. It’s about any form of (R) these days. Trumpism may or may not be ‘merely’ fascistic, but blaming fascism on Trump is letting a whole lot of psychos off the hook. The difference is “strongman-controlled’ vs ‘committee-controlled’, not ‘totalitarian vs free’. Especially with the vast majority of Rs who had emailed through the RNC being totally compromised by the Putinists.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 25, 2018 • 5:16:16am
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freetoken  Jun 25, 2018 • 5:17:03am
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freetoken  Jun 25, 2018 • 5:17:52am

It’s already casting aspersions of “dirty”:

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freetoken  Jun 25, 2018 • 5:20:04am

re: #205 Chrysicat

…Trumpism may or may not be ‘merely’ fascistic, but blaming fascism on Trump is letting a whole lot of psychos off the hook. .

I didn’t do that. Clearly I have said that the fascistic qualities we are seeing are endemic to American society.

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Citizen K  Jun 25, 2018 • 5:21:12am

It’s consistently amazing how this civility trap only gets applied one way. It’s almost like it’s fucking disingenuous or something. And yet the media is more fucking shocked about Sarah Sanders being refused service for who she is (you know, rather than WHAT she is, like a certain store owner refusing to serve customers solely because they’re gay, rather than anything personal about them) than any of the abuse, eliminationist rhetoric, etc. that comes from Trump literally daily.

Meanwhile, we still have a crisis where our administration seems set on laying the foundation of purging all the brown people from the country through any means necessary.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 25, 2018 • 5:33:43am
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Belafon  Jun 25, 2018 • 5:38:11am

Agreeing with Jennifer Rubin and not Soledad O’Brien:

Listen, I get it. The notion of shunning or excluding or heckling can devolve into philosophical hair-splitting as to whether someone has engaged in normal public service or whether they’ve strayed outside the bounds of decent behavior. Each to his own method of expressing disdain and fury, I suppose.

Nevertheless, it is not altogether a bad thing to show those who think they’re exempt from personal responsibility that their actions bring scorn, exclusion and rejection. If you don’t want to provoke wrath, don’t continue to work for someone whose cruel and inhumane treatment of others rivals the internment of U.S. citizens and noncitizens of Japanese descent during World War II. And yes, I’d have hollered at then-California Attorney General Earl Warren, who pushed for the roundup of people of Japanese ancestry, even American citizens.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 25, 2018 • 5:41:28am

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A Mom Anon  Jun 25, 2018 • 5:42:18am

re: #208 freetoken

When his own freaking golf club restaurant got sited for unsanitary conditions. I loathe this bullshit. I hate liars. Gah.

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Citizen K  Jun 25, 2018 • 5:44:55am

re: #214 A Mom Anon

When his own freaking golf club restaurant got sited for unsanitary conditions. I loathe this bullshit. I hate liars. Gah.

It feels like it should be treated a lot more seriously that the POTUS is consistently, almost daily, making personal attacks on people and businesses in a public forum. How is this shit treated as normal? How have those very models of the guardians of civility, our political press, letting this shit go while constantly hectoring anyone against Trump that their supposed rudeness is why Trump Voters forever Love Trump?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 25, 2018 • 5:47:26am

According to a 1991 Associated Press report, Kathleen and Thomas Purgatorio, then in their sixties, ate the “salmonella-tainted mousse” at a restaurant called Buffet by the Sea in Trump’s Castle Hotel and Casino on Oct. 16, 1989. Kathleen felt sick afterwards, Purgatorio-Howard recalls, but nowhere near as ill as her father who she told The Daily Beast “went from walking into the hospital to being in intensive care on a ventilator in a coma.”

thedailybeast.com

A Las Vegas Strip restaurant bearing the initials of celebrity financier Donald Trump was briefly shut down after health inspectors found violations including month-old caviar and expired yogurt.

nydailynews.com

Donald Trump usually loves to be in the headlines - but his latest moment in the spotlight is less positive than he might like.

The outspoken tycoon’s Las Vegas restaurant was shut down by health inspectors this week after racking up dozens of violations.

The insanitary conditions at the upscale eatery included meat and fish that was weeks old, as well as racks of cooked food kept at dangerous temperatures.

dailymail.co.uk

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A Mom Anon  Jun 25, 2018 • 5:56:06am

re: #216 Joe Bacon 🌹

People on Twitter need to smack this shit down with that information.

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2018 • 5:58:45am

re: #208 freetoken

It’s already casting aspersions of “dirty”:

Trump might want to look at photos of himself next to other world leaders.

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jeffreyw  Jun 25, 2018 • 5:59:36am

Imgur


Good morning!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:09:19am

re: #208 freetoken

It’s already casting aspersions of “dirty”:

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Knew this was coming gah.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:09:49am

Senator Wexton event went well. We’re fired up here in VA-10

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sagehen  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:12:25am
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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:12:32am

Morning everyone. Haven’t posted in a while, but appreciate everyone and what you post here. Keeps me mentally sharp here.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:12:49am

re: #220 HappyWarrior

Knew this was coming gah.

He is such a petty POS. Plus a liar. He’s never been to that place, so he’s probably been reading the fake Yelp reviews posted by his minions.

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ObserverArt  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:15:42am

re: #219 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

That needs sound so you can hear them flitting around.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:21:41am

re: #223 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

Morning everyone. Haven’t posted in a while, but appreciate everyone and what you post here. Keeps me mentally sharp here.

Been wondering where you have been. You never visit, never call …

:-)

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sagehen  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:21:43am

re: #215 Citizen K

It feels like it should be treated a lot more seriously that the POTUS is consistently, almost daily, making personal attacks on people and businesses in a public forum. How is this shit treated as normal? How have those very models of the guardians of civility, our political press, letting this shit go while constantly hectoring anyone against Trump that their supposed rudeness is why Trump Voters forever Love Trump?

There was a time when due process, and President staying out of things that were below his pay grade, was taken so seriously, when the concept of “impartial jury” was so important, that a defense attorney was able to delay a trial and get extra juror challenges in void dire because President Nixon publicly expressed an opinion about the presumed guilt of CHARLES MANSON!

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freetoken  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:22:45am

Okeanos Explorer is off of Pamlico sound this morning, looking at a ridge in a large canyon:

Windows to the Deep 2018 (Camera 1)

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:27:47am

re: #219 jeffreyw

Have you experimented with the fancier feeders? They seem less popular with the birds as compared to that one you have a few of there. I put out a nice glass art feeder and it stays full. Reminds me of the cat playing with the bag the ignored new toy came in.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:36:45am

re: #224 wheat-dogg

He is such a petty POS. Plus a liar. He’s never been to that place, so he’s probably been reading the fake Yelp reviews posted by his minions.

He uses the Presidency to go after private citizens and then I have to see his supporters cry about how hard everyone is on him.

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jeffreyw  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:40:08am

re: #225 ObserverArt

That needs sound so you can hear them flitting around.

I took that through the glass of a kitchen window so there was no hummer sound in the original clip. Also, the Imgur GIF maker does not add a sound track. I guess it would be possible to add a closed caption that reads: [sound of hummingbirds flitting about].

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nines09  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:41:41am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:41:58am

re: #231 jeffreyw

You have done a really cool thing with the webcams. Thanks, that’s some work and money to make that happen.

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Lupin  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:42:27am

The Dow Jones industrial average has fallen by 160 points, or 0.65%, to 24,420.

Technology shares are dropping, following reports that the Trump administration will block Chinese companies from investing in the US, and also restrict US tech exports to China.

Alphabet (Google’s parent company) is down by 1.7%, semiconductor maker nVidia is down 2.1% and aircraft maker Boeing is down 2%.

Harley Davidson is also dropping, down 2% after outlining its response to Europe’s new tariffs on US goods.

We don’t yet know how many US jobs will be affected by Harley-Davidson’s decision to move some production from America to Europe. But it’s possible that the company’s base in Milwaukee, Wisconsin could be hit badly.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:44:12am

Anyhow Senator Wexton says regarding keeping our humanity to just keep on standing for what’s right. Another participant told me to just hang tough and keep pushing. I plan to email her campaign manager sometime today about volunteering in the western part of the district.

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jeffreyw  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:45:18am

re: #229 Unshaken Defiance

Have you experimented with the fancier feeders? They seem less popular with the birds as compared to that one you have a few of there. I put out a nice glass art feeder and it stays full. Reminds me of the cat playing with the bag the ignored new toy came in.

We have had differently styled, but similar, feeders in the past. I require that they all be alike to suit my quirks. The birds are happy with these.

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lawhawk  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:45:26am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area.

Trump’s busy giving yelp reviews to restaurants and ragging on Jimmy Fallon.

Yeah, can’t wait for Mueller to eventually give his yelp review on Trumpworld. It’ll take more than 280 characters to fully encompass the criminality Trump surrounded himself with before, during, and after the campaign.

Reminder: Two of Trump’s campaign managers were indicted - Gates and Manafort. One entered a plea deal. The other was thrown in jail for violating bail by engaging in witness tampering and intimidating witnesses. Manafort faces 100s of years in prison if convicted on all the charges. Manafort was the guy who got Trump to the RNC and selected Pence as Trump’s VP.

Manafort was also instrumental in the June 2016 meeting with the Russians, along with Kushner, Junior, and each has lied about his involvement every step of the way.

Trump’s foreign/military policy guru, Mike Flynn, entered a plea deal. Flynn was Trump’s NSA.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:47:20am

Majority of US Population is fucking stupid, survey says.

cnbc.com

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dangerman  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:47:35am

re: #12 Charles Johnson

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Tanky mctankface

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:49:46am

re: #238 I cannot.

Majority of US Population is fucking stupid, survey says.

cnbc.com

People’s views of the economy tend to be behind what is actually going on. Right now, they’re assuming that, since it hasn’t cratered, he’s not really hurting anything.

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freetoken  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:50:15am

re: #238 I cannot.

Many Americans would not care if Trump committed genocide, as long as their retirement accounts keep going up and they can flip their house for a profit.

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Chrysicat  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:50:41am

Jim Crow for gays is official.

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:55:07am
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freetoken  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:56:03am

re: #238 I cannot.

I’ve ranted plenty about these surveys.

All they are showing is how the population have been programmed to respond to magic words.

Over and over again, by simply changing the words of a question which otherwise have the same denotation, responses will vary by word choice.

These surveys exist for only one reason: to generate heat (to get eyes on articles/broadcasts.)

Real economic data comes from the departments of Commerce and Treasury, and from the Fed.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:56:14am

re: #75 freetoken

Long ago, in a galaxy far, far away…

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George Romney did not march with MLK but he DID march arm-in-arm with John Conyers and John Dingell. They don’t build Republicans like that any more.

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dangerman  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:56:35am

re: #33 allegro

Tanky McTankface

(I can’t believe I was the first to do that.)

As usual I didn’t read down first…

Maybe boaty mcboatface for irony

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:56:49am

re: #243 Teukka

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Our citizens? Like the women detained for speaking Spanish?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:57:31am

re: #245 The Vicious Babushka

George Romney did not march with MLK but he DID march arm-in-arm with John Conyers and John Dingell. They don’t build Republicans like that any more.

He- Romney Sr was a bigger man than his coward son.

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:57:42am

re: #247 HappyWarrior

Our citizens? Like the women detained for speaking Spanish?

Apparently.

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2018 • 6:59:17am

re: #245 The Vicious Babushka

George Romney did not march with MLK but he DID march arm-in-arm with John Conyers and John Dingell. They don’t build Republicans like that any more.

Prior to Reagan, the place you were from told people more about your views than your party affiliation. The line between liberal and conservative didn’t correspond to the party dividing line. George Romney, if he were a rep, would more than likely be a Democrat if he were to stick with his views.

Edited slightly.

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lizardofid  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:00:19am

re: #236 jeffreyw

We have had differently styled, but similar, feeders in the past. I require that they all be alike to suit my quirks. The birds are happy with these.

One things for sure, with the population you have, keeping the solution in the feeders “fresh” is not a problem!

Oh, and good morning!

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:00:50am

re: #211 Joe Bacon 🌹

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Trump would know about dirt since he’s filthy on the outside and inside. Projection.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:01:51am

re: #250 Belafon

Prior to Reagan, the place you were from told people more about your views than your party affiliation. The line between liberal and conservative and liberal didn’t correspond to the party dividing line. George Romney, if he were a rep, would more than likely be a Democrat if he were to stick with his views.

Yep. In fact, my grandfather whose views are probably my biggest influence had a Republican father.

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lizardofid  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:03:39am

Later all, have a great day!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:04:21am

The decline of the Rockefeller Republicans and rise of Dixiecrats turned R’s within the GOP was the worst thing to happen. I’d rather have Jerry Ford’s ideological soulmates then Strom Thurmond’s.

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freetoken  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:05:00am

Brittle stars battling over mucus:

Can’t be picky eaters at this depth.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:10:58am

Trump team sees this and is like DAYUM WE GOTTA UP OUR GAME!

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:11:16am

re: #216 Joe Bacon 🌹

You should tweet those stories at him.

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jeffreyw  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:17:37am

re: #251 lizardofid

One things for sure, with the population you have, keeping the solution in the feeders “fresh” is not a problem!

Oh, and good morning!

I used to fill them completely, even early in the season, but I learned to be inefficient in order to gain more efficiency.

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dangerman  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:18:45am

ONE reason why this public shaming will have some legs, for a while is that this current batch of republicans have loudly and clearly written off the rest of us

they wont answer calls
they wont meet in person
they dont do town halls

many like trump himself have said that unless you are an “R” you arent their constituent and they dont care about you

they have vilified and targeted democrats as vile, nasty, traitorous, evil, contemptible etc

if you cut off the people’s voice, if you stop representing them, the public square is all they got left

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Citizen K  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:23:06am

re: #260 dangerman

ONE reason why this public shaming will have some legs, for a while is that this current batch of republicans have loudly and clearly written off the rest of us

they wont answer calls
they wont meet in person
they dont do town halls

many like trump himself have said that unless you are an “R” you arent their constituent and they dont care about you

they have vilified and targeted democrats as vile, nasty, traitorous, evil, contemptible etc

if you cut off the people’s voice, if you stop representing them, the public square is all they got left

The main problem being is that it isn’t just the Republicans doing so. The political media has been right there alongside them, downplaying how abnormal this shit is and reinforcing the constant double standards that have locked Dems and general anti-Trump voices out of the discourse outside of the points where they’re savage for proving ‘this is why Trump voters love Trump’ and that kind of bullshit.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:26:16am

Not an attorney here but do any lawyers know whether the Supreme Court non-decision today opens the door to discrimination based on race, religion, and gender as long as you can claim that a deeply held religious view promotes this discrimination?

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Citizen K  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:26:41am

Fan-fucking-tastic….

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Citizen K  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:28:27am

re: #263 Citizen K

As if that wasn’t enough of a shit sundae:

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dangerman  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:28:32am

re: #116 Kragar

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Bullshit Roseanne

Lost means you don’t know where you put it

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:30:22am

re: #263 Citizen K

Oh, but make sure Sarah Sanders has a seat in a restaurant. //

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:31:54am

re: #264 Citizen K

As if that wasn’t enough of a shit sundae:

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Thank you Bernie Bros and Susan Sarandon. These are decisions we cannot overcome until we have a Democratic Supreme Court, which may not be in our lifetime.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:33:08am

Time to use my deeply held religious beliefs to deny wingnuts jobs.:/

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:34:38am

re: #264 Citizen K

As if that wasn’t enough of a shit sundae:

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Citizen K  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:34:43am

re: #267 Hecuba’s daughter

Thank you Bernie Bros and Susan Sarandon. These are decisions we cannot overcome until we have a Democratic Supreme Court, which may not be in our lifetime.

We may be irreparably fucked. And I fucking hate that I can think that, but I can’t see any other way out of this, not with the constant Kennedy retirement rumors and RBG’s age remaining a factor too. We may be facing an institutional lock out that no amount of elections will fix.

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Done Ben Wrote  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:34:50am

The civil protests/shunning of administration officials weakens their certainty that the majority of Americans side with them. Sure, they know that liberal pundits and Democratic politicians are against child separation, but Real America (which to their minds is most of America—look at the red on the map!) wants the border secure, and are willing to tolerate some family torture to get it.

When they go to eat or shop somewhere outside the urban hellholes, and are still driven out, then they have to rethink their assumptions. And learn to cook.

And that is real torture. What is the point of having money and power if you can’t flaunt it in front of the less fortunate?

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Lupin  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:35:03am

re: #264 Citizen K

As if that wasn’t enough of a shit sundae:

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I’ve often reminded people that the Chilean Supreme Court rubberstamped all of Pinochet’s decisions, even the most abominable ones. The law is a ass, etc.

When you have 60 million nazis or nazi-symps in a country, there are consequences.

To reclaim your country against all this is a challenge of herculean proportions.

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:35:59am

I realize they’re still making Planet of the Apes movies, but a reboot should focus on the apes revolting because the SCOTUS ruled they weren’t citizens even though they’re fully intelligent and are otherwise required to participate as citizens, such as paying taxes.

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:38:01am

re: #270 Citizen K

We may be irreparably fucked. And I fucking hate that I can think that, but I can’t see any other way out of this, not with the constant Kennedy retirement rumors and RBG’s age remaining a factor too. We may be facing an institutional lock out that no amount of elections will fix.

We have a lot of work to do, but we’re in a far better position than the 1910s.

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:45:56am

re: #263 Citizen K

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Fan-fucking-tastic….

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:46:40am
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Lupin  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:51:07am

The first two decades of the 20th century saw the end of the great colonial empires of Europe; the average British of French citizen from 1900-10 wouldn’t have believed you if you had described to him what Britain, France, and the world, would be like in the 1930s, 1950s, etc.

I think it is clear that the same thing is occurring now with respect to the American “empire” which is collapsing as we live through it, and I doubt we can even imagine what the geopolitical situation will be like in, say, 2050.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:52:01am

re: #276 The Vicious Babushka

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Sarah Huckabee Sanders own brother is an animal abuser and her father defended Josh Duggar.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:53:21am

re: #277 Lupin

The first two decades of the 20th century saw the end of the great colonial empires of Europe; the average British of French citizen from 1900-10 wouldn’t have believed you if you had described to him what Britain, France, and the world, would be like in the 1930s, 1950s, etc.

I think it is clear that the same thing is occurring now with respect to the American “empire” which is collapsing as we live through it, and I doubt we can even imagine what the geopolitical situation will be like in, say, 2050.

What we’re experiencing imo reminds me of Spain of the 30’s. One side embracing the new present and reality and the other clinging to the past.

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:53:45am

re: #276 The Vicious Babushka

Why can’t they be civil?

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Citizen K  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:55:18am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:56:18am

re: #281 Citizen K

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Yep. Honestly why shouldn’t we be fucking pissed.

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:57:07am

re: #276 The Vicious Babushka

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Only took me a few minutes to Godwin. *ducks*

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Lupin  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:57:15am

re: #279 HappyWarrior

What we’re experiencing imo reminds me of Spain of the 30’s. One side embracing the new present and reality and the other clinging to the past.

I think this could have been said of the whole of Europe, but Franco “froze” Spain as if it were in amber. I remember going there in the early 70ies (coming from France) and it looked like I’d time traveled back to the late 30s/early 40s, well, my parent’s era, anyway.

Like Vir Cotto, I wish to someday wave at Trump’s head on a pike (figuratively). It won’t restore the US (no more than it did Centauri) but it’ll make me feel good.

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Citizen K  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:57:15am

re: #282 HappyWarrior

Yep. Honestly why shouldn’t we be fucking pissed.

Because it hurts their fee-fees. And we know that only ‘Real Americans’ feelings and anger are valid.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:57:32am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:58:32am

Winning

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Lupin  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:59:17am

re: #281 Citizen K

Hang this in the Louvre. CNN’s “both sides” montage perfectly encapsulating the fallacy of mainstream media equivalence: all the conservatives examples are bald racism and all the liberal examples are…being rude

For sure the French Maquisards were extremely rude to the German tourists of the times. Smelling salts, please.

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:59:25am

re: #277 Lupin

The first two decades of the 20th century saw the end of the great colonial empires of Europe; the average British of French citizen from 1900-10 wouldn’t have believed you if you had described to him what Britain, France, and the world, would be like in the 1930s, 1950s, etc.

I think it is clear that the same thing is occurring now with respect to the American “empire” which is collapsing as we live through it, and I doubt we can even imagine what the geopolitical situation will be like in, say, 2050.

And our collapse is due to the fact that we haven’t played the typical Empire - we don’t require other countries to pay for our military nor are they required to treat us as first among equals (that doesn’t mean countries don’t for obvious reasons) - and Trump has been trying to change the arrangement to an extortion racket.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 7:59:52am

re: #284 Lupin

I think this could have been said of the whole of Europe, but Franco “froze” Spain as if it were in amber. I remember going there in the early 70ies (coming from France) and it looked like I’d time traveled back to the late 30s/early 40s, well, my parent’s era, anyway.

Like Vir Cotto, I wish to someday wave at Trump’s head on a pike (figuratively). It won’t restore the US (no more than it did Centauri) but it’ll make me feel good.

Oh for sure. That really was I think the heart of what the 20th century conflicts were about. Modernity vs the Past.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:00:45am

re: #287 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Winning

And, more winning

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Lupin  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:02:36am

re: #289 Belafon

And our collapse is due to the fact that we haven’t played the typical Empire - we don’t require other countries to pay for our military nor are they required to treat us as first among equals (that doesn’t mean countries don’t for obvious reasons) - and Trump has been trying to change the arrangement to an extortion racket.

Like all analogies mine fail in the details; history only stutters; but I’m firmly convinced that the world of, say, 2050 will be “bigly” different from what we see today.

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:06:19am

re: #292 Lupin

Like all analogies mine fail in the details; history only stutters; but I’m firmly convinced that the world of, say, 2050 will be “bigly” different from what we see today.

I agree. 30 years from now will look different. The US was not going to remain at the top anyway, in my opinion. What Trump, though, is doing is damaging the ability for Democratic nations to respond to the growing Chinese influence. What should have become a European-American-Pacific Rim alliance is now fractured. We might be able to fix it after he’s gone, but it will be weaker against China than it should have been.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:07:14am

Trump is justifying his immigration policy on the notion that citizens are being killed by immigrants. By that measure we should ban police departments.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:07:24am

The thing is we’re always fighting with people who have a past that never existed. The 1950’s that mani of Trump’s key demo grew up in? A time period with a much more lefty economy. And while it was by no means socially liberal, we weren’t doing Trump’s policy on immigrants then either.

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:07:44am

re: #294 Barefoot Grin

Trump is justifying his immigration policy on the notion that citizens are being killed by immigrants. By that measure we should ban police departments.

And white males.

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:08:36am

re: #283 Teukka

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Only took me a few minutes to Godwin. *ducks*

This could be a potential way to answer the pedophile and other accusations, using litterature from the era to answer questions like that…

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Chrysicat  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:14:13am

re: #270 Citizen K

We may be irreparably fucked. And I fucking hate that I can think that, but I can’t see any other way out of this, not with the constant Kennedy retirement rumors and RBG’s age remaining a factor too. We may be facing an institutional lock out that no amount of elections will fix.

Yep. We told the voters repeatedly that the Great Society and even the New Effing Deal would be taken away and locked behind a door that could only be reopened via Constitutional amendment.

Kennedy’s quote about what-happens-when-you-make-peaceful-revolution-impossible comes to mind. And there should still be enough #ProudRaceTraitors to overthrow white rule before the bastards can ethnically cleanse the place. At least in theory.

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Chrysicat  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:16:02am
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Teukka  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:17:00am

re: #299 Chrysicat

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:19:36am

LOfuckingL

lying moron

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:20:58am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:24:45am

Is Sarah fired?

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Citizen K  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:24:49am

Just keep giving Trump that benefit of the doubt guys. I’m sure you’ll win him and the GOP over someday….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:26:02am

re: #303 The Vicious Babushka

Is Sarah fired?

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hasn’t been a briefing since the baby jails/kiddie concentration camp stories broke.

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:26:22am

re: #303 The Vicious Babushka

Is Sarah fired?

She didn’t do one last week either.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:28:27am

Trump’s America….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:28:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:29:46am
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Belafon  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:30:58am

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t care about helping them. I care about stopping them.

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:31:48am

If it’s helping them, then I dare SHS to go back to the restaurant.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:31:58am

What Marco (and a lot of Conservatives/Republicans) don’t get, is that people who are fighting against white supremacy are fighting it in all forms. If Donald Trump wants to act as the white supremacist in chief, and his voters/supporters want to act as white supremacists; we will push back against them. If those people don’t want push-back, don’t be white supremacists, or act on its behalf.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:36:46am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:38:35am
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William Lewis  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:41:12am

re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A racist incompetent slaver who died broke? Yeah, I can see the comparison to pumpkin Pinochet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:42:26am
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Dr. Matt  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:42:40am

re: #314 Backwoods_Sleuth

Isn’t Dennis Hof and Trump’s Cabana Boy, sean hannity, BFFs?

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Chrysicat  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:42:42am
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A Mom Anon  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:42:53am

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ok, I just let out a whoo-hooo! And did a happy dance. That slimy war profiteering asshole is long overdue to live in a cell.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:44:20am

re: #301 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOfuckingL

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lying moron

This has been the main item of news on Fox all morning: the 5PM deadline established by Nunes and co. They’re teeing up the total degradation of DoJ/FBI.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:47:39am
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MsJ  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:50:51am

re: #10 nines09

Some here follow Stonekettle. Even if you never heard of him, now you will.
Read this. You will not regret it.

My Vasectomy And the GOP Convention

I’m at the dentist’s office, laughing so hard I’m crying. And I couldn’t stop laughing.

They’re all looking at me. I couldn’t even get up to leave I was losing it so bad.

I had to turn the phone off and read the rest after I left.

Holy cow that was funny.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:54:51am

P.S. Dow is shitting the bed right now. -342.97 (-1.40%) as of 11:54AM EDT.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:55:06am

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dude you got nominated using an ad showing Charlie Crist being nice to Obama. STFU you feckless wanker.

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makeitstop  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:56:40am

Today’s presser is on. For now.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:57:28am
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Dr. Matt  Jun 25, 2018 • 8:59:01am

re: #323 Dr. Matt

P.S. Dow is shitting the bed right now. -342.97 (-1.40%) as of 11:54AM EDT.

The market is around the same level it was back in mid-November.

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:00:26am

re: #327 Dr. Matt

The market is around the same level it was back in mid-November.

So, in Trump-speak, it’s higher than it’s ever been.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:01:33am

re: #328 Belafon

So, in Trump-speak, it’s higher than it’s ever been.

“Setting huge beautiful records. No one would have thought it.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:03:09am

re: #329 Dr. Matt

“Setting huge beautiful records. No one would have thought it.”

“I invented the Dow Jones 500. A lot of people don’t know that.”

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Weaselone  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:05:37am

re: #281 Citizen K

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Does someone need to remind the media that Trump already puts them in enclosures at his rallies and directs his followers to get their hate on at them? Do they not realize how precarious their position is? If separating children from their parents and locking them in cages doesn’t merit incivility, certainly locking up stenographers would not.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:05:54am
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Teukka  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:12:45am

Missed this one. And learned a new hashtag #NeverAgainIsNow

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:15:33am

re: #323 Dr. Matt

P.S. Dow is shitting the bed right now. -342.97 (-1.40%) as of 11:54AM EDT.

Intraday movements of this magnitude are usually pretty meaningless. I was there when the market dropped 22.6% in one day, courtesy of a new computerized trading algorithm portfolio insurance . 1.4% is nothing. Of course in 1987 the market recovered its losses by the end of the year. I wouldn’t pay any attention to such a modest drop.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:15:47am

DOW bouncing around the -400s

Winning

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Jay C  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:17:11am

re: #327 Dr. Matt

The market is around the same level it was back in mid-November.

OK: not to want to appear like Technical Market Guy again, but even at the current trading level, the equity markets haven’t even dropped to the last “trough” level of March’s major dip - though should they, things might get really dicey.
While the US economy is still, all things considered, reasonably strong (or at least “not weak”), moves on what Bloomberg calls the “Fear Gauge” are starting to sink in: mainly apprehensions about Trump’s trade-war insanity, and the realization that the low interest rates which have eased economic tensions for years are going to have to start creeping up sooner or later.
As of right now, the DJIA is heading towards the 24,000 level (down 442, 1.8%)if it busts through that, then WTFO……

ADD: what HD said @ #334 Hecuba’s daughter

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electrotek  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:28:12am

re: #307 Dr. Matt

Trump’s America….

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This is what I’m always bracing for as a brown-skinned man in the West.

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freetoken  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:29:29am

This cheerful guy just grabbed a brittlestar, then tore off its legs, cleaned them of goodness, and now stuffing the entire disk in its mouth:

It’s a crab eat star world down there.

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jaunte  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:30:34am
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dangerman  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:30:53am

just had a nice little power failure
battery backups rock

anybody miss me?
anybody notice?
sigh

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jaunte  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:31:00am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:33:48am
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Dr. Matt  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:34:14am

re: #335 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

DOW bouncing around the -400s

Winning

HOW DARE YOU MAKE AN OBSERVATION ABOUT THE DOW IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY!!! FUCKING OUTRAGE!

FFS. No really, FFS.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:35:15am

New LGF rule: Don’t post about the Dow until the markets close.

*rolling my eyes*

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:35:21am
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Belafon  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:35:55am

“If Democrats won’t be civil in the face of fascism, then who will be?”

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:36:12am
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Belafon  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:36:42am

re: #344 Dr. Matt

New LGF rule: Don’t post about the Dow until the markets close.

*rolling my eyes*

New rule: Don’t post anything about the historical performance of the DOW because it might freak some people out.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:38:10am

re: #337 electrotek

This is what I’m always bracing for as a brown-skinned man in the West.

I wish we could say that things will get better soon. But, this country hasn’t hit rock bottom yet to make the upswing. Hang in there…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:40:40am

re: #342 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Noticing a trend.

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lawhawk  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:41:16am

re: #342 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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dangerman  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:42:22am

re: #342 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

David Lynch: Trump could be remembered among great presidents

he will be remembered among them as not being one of them

and if you “dont know” who you voted for 2 years ago, you’re a liar

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:42:56am

re: #342 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

What’s in the picture?

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dangerman  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:44:19am

re: #344 Dr. Matt

New LGF rule: Don’t post about the Dow until the markets close.

*rolling my eyes*

while i woudl assume most of us are not ‘active’ every day traders and so are not too concerned with this kind of volatility, intraday ups and downs do matter and are an indiciation of something

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:44:45am

re: #353 Belafon

What’s in the picture?

David Lynch saying Trump will go down as one of the greatest Presidents.

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SteelPH  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:44:54am

re: #353 Belafon

“Lynch claimed he doesn’t remember who he voted for in the 2016 election, but notes he voted for Bernie Sanders over Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary.”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:45:41am

re: #356 SteelPH

“Lynch claimed he doesn’t remember who he voted for in the 2016 election, but notes he voted for Bernie Sanders over Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary.”

Ah yeah that too.

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:47:26am

re: #352 dangerman

he will be remembered among them as not being one of them

and if you “dont know” who you voted for 2 years ago, you’re a liar

The next few presidents are going to have to fix a lot of stuff, and will be remembered by history for it. As they’re sitting around, talking about the new president, they’ll reminisce about Trump, wondering how he survived his final years in the cold Siberian tundra.

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electrotek  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:50:51am

re: #349 Dr. Matt

I wish we could say that things will get better soon. But, this country hasn’t hit rock bottom yet to make the upswing. Hang in there…

Not just in America, but also in Europe and Australia.

Because evidently only brown-skinned men are culpable of rape.

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dangerman  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:52:15am

re: #358 Belafon

The next few presidents are going to have to fix a lot of stuff, and will be remembered by history for it. As they’re sitting around, talking about the new president, they’ll reminisce about Trump, wondering how he survived his final years in the cold Siberian tundra.

yeah, and ps

“”because he has disrupted the thing so much. No one is able to counter this guy in an intelligent way”

there is nothing “great” about chaos

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dangerman  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:52:47am

re: #359 electrotek

Not just in America, but also in Europe and Australia.

Because evidently only brown-skinned men are culpable of rape.

and accaording to that nut woman above, every single one of them

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:53:59am
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lawhawk  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:54:43am

Once again, the GOP gets away with gerrymandering districts. Minority rights are at stake, and Gorsuch gets to put his thumbs on the scales to depress minority representation. He, along with the rest of the conservatives on the Court are intent on killing the VRA (what remains of it after Roberts eviscerated the enforcement provision).

Congress, while in GOP hands, refuses to lift a finger to restore the VRA and put new considerations in place to pass muster, and gives the bigot GOP the right to continue skewing the makeup of Congress and localities’ districts.

This is bad stuff.

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:55:47am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:56:44am
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lawhawk  Jun 25, 2018 • 9:57:43am

re: #362 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Trump the misogynist, sex predator, and white nationalist, gets a pass, but a restaurant takes a stand against Trump’s spokeshack and that’s a bridge too far?

Fuck the snowflakes’ feelings.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:00:13am

re: #362 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:09:06am
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stpaulbear  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:10:16am

re: #367 Barefoot Grin

They should sell t-shirts.

I hope they don’t get vandalized (or worse).

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Weaselone  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:11:14am

re: #369 stpaulbear

They should sell t-shirts.

I hope they don’t get vandalized (or worse).

Cluck your feelings?

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danarchy  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:12:54am

re: #352 dangerman

he will be remembered among them as not being one of them

and if you “dont know” who you voted for 2 years ago, you’re a liar

To be fair, Gary Johnson is pretty damn forgettable…

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freetoken  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:13:28am

Doesn’t look particularly happy at being disturbed:

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:15:00am

re: #372 freetoken

Doesn’t look particularly happy at being disturbed:

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My Chiweenie will give you that look from his bed.

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stpaulbear  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:15:29am

re: #370 Weaselone

Cluck your feelings?

Hah!

Just their logo would be OK by me.

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wrenchwench  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:15:54am

re: #371 danarchy

To be fair, Gary Johnson is pretty damn forgettable…

Even I can’t remember what state he used to be governor of. Or at least, I try to forget.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:18:06am

They’re free to do what they’re doing against the restaurant but man if the irony isn’t a bitch.

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Belafon  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:20:08am

re: #376 HappyWarrior

They’re free to do what they’re doing against the restaurant but man if the irony isn’t a bitch.

The problem they have is that their boycotts haven’t been nearly as effective as the left’s.

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ObserverArt  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:25:10am

When I see anything about Donny Trump’s trade policy I imagine an ‘i’ being added so that it becomes: tirade policy.

Because that is how it was created, mentioned and carried out.

All of his policy is formed by his tirades.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:26:26am

re: #377 Belafon

The problem they have is that their boycotts haven’t been nearly as effective as the left’s.

Yep.

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wrenchwench  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:26:38am

re: #377 Belafon

The problem they have is that their boycotts haven’t been nearly as effective as the left’s.

Boycotts are to be used by winners of the popular vote. Funny how that works. Almost like democracy.

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Weaselone  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:27:02am

re: #376 HappyWarrior

They’re free to do what they’re doing against the restaurant but man if the irony isn’t a bitch.

They are free to do so…however, Trump and government officials shouldn’t be using official accounts to attack businesses.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:27:08am

re: #378 ObserverArt

When I see anything about Donny Trump’s trade policy I imagine an ‘i’ being added so that it becomes: tirade policy.

Because that is how it was created, mentioned and carried out.

All of his policy is formed by his tirades.

His whole political career is a senile old asshole thinking he knows best.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:27:23am

re: #381 Weaselone

They are free to do so…however, Trump and government officials shouldn’t be using official accounts to attack businesses.

Absolutely.

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freetoken  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:27:28am

Why are the proudly self-labelling “deplorables” now complaining about being deplored?

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jaunte  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:28:10am
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b.d.  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:28:42am

THE DEMOCRAT LIBTARDS HAVE TO BE CIVIL!!!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:30:33am

re: #385 jaunte

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That’s exactly why she should have just swallowed her pride quietly.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:30:48am

re: #386 b.d.

THE DEMOCRAT LIBTARDS HAVE TO BE CIVIL!!!

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What a worthless POS

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Stanley Sea  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:31:03am

Wrong link

Oh god

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:31:15am

re: #386 b.d.

THE DEMOCRAT LIBTARDS HAVE TO BE CIVIL!!!

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You encouraged violence at your rallies. Stroke already you toad.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:32:01am

re: #389 Stanley Sea

washingtonian.com

Oh god

Can’t say I’m shocked.

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wrenchwench  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:32:04am

re: #384 freetoken

Why are the proudly self-labelling “deplorables” now complaining about being deplored?

They were joking, it was sarcasm, and a couple more reasons…

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Stanley Sea  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:32:15am
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SteelPH  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:32:53am

re: #385 jaunte

Egged and death threats. TOTALLY CIVIL

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:33:48am

re: #393 Stanley Sea

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Mugshots of children. America in 2018.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:34:18am

re: #392 wrenchwench

They were joking, it was sarcasm, and a couple more reasons…

They talk a tough game but they’re cowards.

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:34:29am

Boy, the opposition can’t even find the right restaurant to egg and send death threats…
“Idiots. Idiots everywhere”

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b.d.  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:35:21am

re: #394 SteelPH

Egged and death threats. TOTALLY CIVIL

[fainting couch media] IF THE DEMS AREN’T NICE AND CIVIL TO THE NAZIS RUNNING AMERICA THEN WHO WILL BE!?!? [/fainting couch media]

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sagehen  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:35:45am

re: #377 Belafon

The problem they have is that their boycotts haven’t been nearly as effective as the left’s.

aw, c’mon.

There used to be an 14-month waiting list for Hamilton tickets, now it’s only 8 months. Winning!

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JordanRules  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:36:13am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:36:26am

re: #397 Teukka

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Boy, the opposition can’t even find the right restaurant to egg and send death threats…
“Idiots. Idiots everywhere”

That’s the only thing keeping us from total madness, incompetence.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:37:08am

re: #400 JordanRules

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See their complaints when Wolf mocked her. That’s the real swamp right there.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:37:22am

re: #380 wrenchwench

Boycotts are to be used by winners of the popular vote. Funny how that works. Almost like democracy.

The point always is to cause Trump supporters to commit violence against all perceived enemies. That’s what a right wing “boycott” as all about.

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jaunte  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:38:06am

Houston Police Chief responds to Texas Senator/troll

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Teukka  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:38:08am

re: #401 HappyWarrior

That’s the only thing keeping us from total madness, incompetence.

You haven’t seen total incompetent madness.
*goes for tyvek suit, gas mask, visor, boots and helmet*

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:39:24am

re: #386 b.d.

THE DEMOCRAT LIBTARDS HAVE TO BE CIVIL!!!

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Reported that tweet!

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ObserverArt  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:39:33am

re: #359 electrotek

Not just in America, but also in Europe and Australia.

Because evidently only brown-skinned men are culpable of rape.

Keep pointing that out. I think too many Americans think all of it is happening here only. We still tend to think only of ourselves.

I have a client that is Australian and he tells me how nuts it is there as far as politics, etc.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:40:54am

re: #407 ObserverArt

Keep pointing that out. I think too many Americans think all of it is happening here only. We still tend to think only of ourselves.

I have a client that is Australian and he tells me how nuts it is there as far as politics, etc.

We’re definitely not alone. See Brexit and Italy’s election.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:41:17am

re: #405 Teukka

You haven’t seen total incompetent madness.
*goes for tyvek suit, gas mask, visor, boots and helmet*

True true.

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jaunte  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:41:28am
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jaunte  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:41:56am
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Teukka  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:42:09am
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wrenchwench  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:43:05am

re: #403 Winston_Smith

The point always is to cause Trump supporters to commit violence against all perceived enemies. That’s what a right wing “boycott” as all about.

And a left wing boycott is all about speaking the language the rwnjs understand: $$$$$$.

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ObserverArt  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:45:29am

re: #382 HappyWarrior

His whole political career is a senile old asshole thinking he knows best.

And his backers in a large part are senile old cranky white assholes that think they know best.

Like the woman in the video being confronted by the Mexican guy asking her if he has raped or sold drugs.

And once again, I bet she thinks she is some great God-fearing Christian. Here she is judging a man because of innuendo mouthed by our fat-ass hater president.

That is evil.

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b.d.  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:46:28am

re: #406 Joe Bacon 🌹

Reported that tweet!

Seems like a call to violence to me.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:46:34am

re: #414 ObserverArt

And his backers in a large part are senile old cranky white assholes that think they know best.

Like the woman in the video being confronted by the Mexican guy asking her if he has raped or sold drugs.

And once again, I bet she thinks she is some great God-fearing Christian. Here she is judging a man because of innuendo mouthed by our fat-ass hater president.

That is evil.

Absolutely. Or the lawyer who threatened ICE on the employees speaking Spanish.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:47:04am

re: #405 Teukka

You haven’t seen total incompetent madness.
*goes for tyvek suit, gas mask, visor, boots and helmet*

Imagine Inspector Clouseau on a week-long meth binge (X).

That simple equation would look like this:

X * = the Trump Administration

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jaunte  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:48:34am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:49:00am

I’ve always said that fascism and communism’s different flavors were my favorite parts of studying them. American fascism’s combination of Ayn Rand values with Christian nationalism is certainly unique.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:50:01am

re: #418 jaunte

[Embedded content]

That prick Kelly still won’t admit he lied about Fredericka Wilson.

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wrenchwench  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:51:17am
422
Belafon  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:51:59am

re: #421 wrenchwench

“White Genocide!”

423
jaunte  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:52:26am

re: #421 wrenchwench

..Steve King muttering the 14 words into the pillow over his head…

424
Winston_Smith  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:52:27am

re: #415 b.d.

Seems like a call to violence to me.

It is.

425
Mike Lamb  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:52:40am

re: #388 Eventual Carrion

What a worthless POS

Don’t forget lying. There is no way that Waters’ comments could be interpreted as calling for harm. The implied threat in Trump’s tweets on the other hand…

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lawhawk  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:53:31am
427
Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:53:50am

re: #421 wrenchwench

The problem, of course, is that these nutjobs think that rising rates of interracial marriages is all part of their “white genocide” conspiracy. In fact, they’d most likely tout such statistical evidence as some kind of proof that their apocalyptic fears are coming true.

428
Winston_Smith  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:53:51am

re: #418 jaunte

The WP will insist that Maxine apologize for making Trump threaten her.

429
Teukka  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:54:16am

re: #428 Winston_Smith

The WP will insist that Maxine apologize for making Trump threaten her.

*cough* DARVO *cough*

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:54:27am

re: #421 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

We’ve gone from being pretty much the same national background a century ago to inter religious and now inter ethnic in the 21st.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:55:11am

re: #425 Mike Lamb

Don’t forget lying. There is no way that Waters’ comments could be interpreted as calling for harm. The implied threat in Trump’s tweets on the other hand…

What did she say in case I encounter this?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:55:49am

re: #423 jaunte

..Steve King muttering the 14 words into the pillow over his head…

Steve King needs to be reborn as a stink bug.

433
jaunte  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:56:01am

“…Chris McMurray did decline to host former Vice President Joe Biden at his bakery, Crumb & Get It Cookie Co., during a 2012 campaign tour. A Biden staffer asked the business owner if the visit would be OK ahead of time, and McMurray said he declined, citing political disagreements.

The decision launched McMurray into the national spotlight. He appeared on Fox News, was featured in countless news articles and was invited to introduce then Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan at a Roanoke County rally.”
newsadvance.com

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wrenchwench  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:56:25am

re: #427 Dr Lizardo

The problem, of course, is that these nutjobs think that rising rates of interracial marriages is all part of their “white genocide” conspiracy. In fact, they’d most likely tout such statistical evidence as some kind of proof that their apocalyptic fears are coming true.

They do not have the weapons to fight demographics. Which is different from democracy, and more persistent.

435
wrenchwench  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:58:16am

re: #432 HappyWarrior

Steve King needs to be reborn as a stink bug.

He thinks if he doesn’t believe in reincarnation, it can’t happen to him.

436
HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 10:59:34am

re: #433 jaunte

[Embedded content]

And Obama/Biden didn’t encourage attacks on him either like Trump and SHS and old Papa Huckelberry.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:00:13am

re: #434 wrenchwench

They do not have the weapons to fight demographics. Which is different from democracy, and more persistent.

They’re afraid to death of change and you know what, good.

438
jaunte  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:00:17am

re: #436 HappyWarrior

Not being a Fox News viewer, this is the first I’ve heard of that incident.

439
DodgerFan1988  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:00:50am

They will still blame the job losses on the
“illegals.”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:01:05am

re: #438 jaunte

Not being a Fox News viewer, this is the first I’ve heard of that incident.

Same. Just like Romney and FNC to make him a hero.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:02:01am

re: #439 DodgerFan1988

[Embedded content]

They will still blame the job losses on the
“illegals.”

Of course, they will. Trump never takes responsibility for his fuck ups and his cult is too bigoted to care.

442
lawhawk  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:02:46am

WH is spewing a series of tweets about people who died due to illegal aliens/undocumented persons.

They were silent about all those killed in mass shootings and refuse to lift a finger to stop gun violence.

They’re using the families of those killed by undocumented persons to further their white nationalist agenda.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:03:04am

re: #439 DodgerFan1988

[Embedded content]

They will still blame the job losses on the
“illegals.”

Of course they will.

THEY TOOK MUH JOB!!

444
Teukka  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:04:34am

re: #443 Dr Lizardo

Of course they will.

THEY TOOK MUH JOB JERB!!

FTFY.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:04:36am

re: #442 lawhawk

WH is spewing a series of tweets about people who died due to illegal aliens/undocumented persons.

They were silent about all those killed in mass shootings and refuse to lift a finger to stop gun violence.

[Embedded content]

They’re using the families of those killed by undocumented persons to further their white nationalist agenda.

This is going to incite violence against all immigrants regardless of status. Trump wants pogroms against immigrants. That’s exactly why I don’t care about Scowlabee getting denied a meal.

446
jaunte  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:07:33am
447
Belafon  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:08:59am

re: #446 jaunte

I already want that kid as a citizen.

448
jaunte  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:09:48am

re: #447 Belafon

A more honest response than a whole day of cable news panels.

449
jaunte  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:10:07am
450
Charles Johnson  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:11:13am
451
HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:11:15am

re: #449 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Because conservatives have different rules for liberals than themselves. It’s how they’ve justified Trump while crying Anthony Weiner and Bill Clinton.

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dangerman  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:11:30am

re: #432 HappyWarrior

Steve King needs to be reborn as a stink bug.

Dung beetle

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:11:50am

re: #450 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

I assume they already have gotten threats. He knows what his cult can do.

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JordanRules  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:12:32am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:14:10am

Saw Waters comments. Pretty damn tame and the lock her up crowd complains? Snowflake wingnuts gonna snowflake I guess.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:17:58am
457
Interesting Times  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:20:00am

Um…er…so this just happened o_O

I checked - verified, not parody account. This happened to anyone else? Debating whether I should leave it be, or block (esp. if he retweets people for harassment purposes…)

458
thecommodore  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:20:16am

Glenn Beck’s freakout.

washingtonpost.com

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freetoken  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:23:30am

re: #458 thecommodore

Glenn Beck’s freakout.

washingtonpost.com

He does that every couple of years or so. That’s how he reboots his brand.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:25:03am

Time to call it a day. Have fun, Lizards.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:28:04am

re: #458 thecommodore

Glenn Beck’s freakout.

washingtonpost.com

He’s not insane enough in devotion to Der Trumper. His protege, Tomi is doing her part to be America’s Next Coulter but Coulter isn’t stupid, bigoted yes but not stupid as Tomi.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:28:25am

re: #457 Interesting Times

Um…er…so this just happened o_O

[Embedded content]

I checked - verified, not parody account. This happened to anyone else? Debating whether I should leave it be, or block (esp. if he retweets people for harassment purposes…)

RUN!

463
Stanley Sea  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:28:43am

THIS GUY

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Charles Johnson  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:29:41am
465
JordanRules  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:30:03am

re: #457 Interesting Times

Um…er…so this just happened o_O

[Embedded content]

I checked - verified, not parody account. This happened to anyone else? Debating whether I should leave it be, or block (esp. if he retweets people for harassment purposes…)

Yeah, he’s one of those that tries to follow everyone. There’s a few celebs, brands and notable people who do it. He followed me at some point months ago and I never really paid attention or think about it.

466
ObserverArt  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:30:26am

re: #459 freetoken

He does that every couple of years or so. That’s how he reboots his brand.

Looks to me like he is trying to get one of those KFC commercial roles as Colonel Sanders.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:30:54am

re: #464 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Funny how no one did this with Obama. Sick of snowflake wingers.

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b.d.  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:32:04am

re: #464 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

But Charles, don’t you remember Ted Nugent costing the Republicans votes because of the vile stuff he spewed?

//

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JordanRules  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:32:51am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:33:06am

re: #468 b.d.

But Charles, don’t you remember Ted Nugent costing the Republicans votes because of the vile stuff he spewed?

//

Yeah funny how DeNiro is just awful but Ted Nugent gets his ass smooched by Chickenshits like Romney.

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EPR-radar  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:33:17am

re: #432 HappyWarrior

Steve King needs to be reborn as a stink bug.

Pinworm might be a more appropriate reincarnation for Rep. Steve King.

472
JordanRules  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:33:28am
473
HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:33:55am

re: #469 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

Asian Americans don’t have a blind loyalty to the Dems, dumbass. If they prefer the Dems, there’s a reason.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:34:22am

re: #471 EPR-radar

Pinworm might be a more appropriate reincarnation for Rep. Steve King.

Anything goes.

475
EPR-radar  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:34:37am

re: #469 JordanRules

This is what happens when you don’t have War Crimes Trials for war criminals — they become normalized, and more importantly, so do the war crimes.

476
Kragar  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:34:51am
477
dangerman  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:35:06am

on civility:

“the democrats” should be nice to us as we fuck them left and right, fuck up the system - health care, immigration, the cabinet, foreign police etc., lie to their faces and in general ignore them

478
HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:35:58am

I’d take Waters’ life of self betterment over Golden Spoon in his Ass Donnie.

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Citizen K  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:36:51am

re: #464 Charles Johnson

The problem is that it doesn’t seem to matter much if we don’t fall for it. The most important folks far as November goes, that squishy middle and/or no-shows from ‘16 and the media we rely on to actually hold Trump accountable, seem to believe it whole heartedly, the former mostly because the latter has become so complicit in normalizing Trump and persisting in treating anyone against him in the most delegitimizing of ways. There seems to be no criticism of him that can’t be shut down for the news cycle without the incessant tone policing. The kind that rewards perfectly bad faith from the GOP and punishes good faith from the Dems over and over again. There is seemingly no way to break through when they persist in ‘both sides same thing’ at best.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:37:25am

re: #477 dangerman

on civility:

“the democrats” should be nice to us as we fuck them left and right, fuck up the system - health care, immigration, the cabinet, foreign police etc., lie to their faces and in general ignore them

Be nice to us say the people who hang out with pastors who call LGBT people demonic.

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Weaselone  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:37:43am

re: #449 jaunte

[Embedded content]

The big question is why are reporters more upset about Maxine Waters?

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dangerman  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:39:08am

around the ‘net people are asking “where’s obama” in all this

- aside from the ex-president’s code
- aside from anything he would do or say would turn the discussion onto him (see samantha bee and the c-word)

consider this:

when trump finally is an ex-president (for whatever reason), you think he will do the ex-president’s code thing? not for a second.

and further - if he doesnt actually serve two terms (again for whatever reason) do dont doubt that he will constantly hint and ‘threaten’ that he’s gonna run again

483
Citizen K  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:40:10am

re: #481 Weaselone

The big question is why are reporters more upset about Maxine Waters?

Because Dem outrage and anger is inherently invalid to them. Black outrage and anger is inherently invalid to them. And Black Dem outrage with a double-dash of Misogyny? That’s even more doubleplusinvalid to the point it needs to be smashed down immediately.

484
Belafon  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:40:51am

re: #481 Weaselone

The big question is why are reporters more upset about Maxine Waters?

“Both sides!”

485
HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:42:38am

I didn’t like Cynthia McKinney but her criticisms of Bush were always more harshly scruntized then white and male ones.

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jaunte  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:43:01am
487
JordanRules  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:43:19am
488
HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:43:45am

Fact is fucking Reagan always made “jokes” implying Dem voters were too stupid or dependent but the media ignored it because they loved the Grandpa Ronnie narrative.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:44:15am

re: #486 jaunte

[Embedded content]

We fucking tried that Matt.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:45:02am

re: #487 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

Fuck Erickson and fuck CNN for hsving him.

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Citizen K  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:46:00am

re: #489 HappyWarrior

We fucking tried that Matt.

They went low. We went high. We got savaged for ‘going low’ anyway. It’s almost like we get no credit for trying to rise above the fray while the other side gets credit for not going full nazi regalia on us when they march for fascism.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:46:09am

They want the left to be weak and refuse to stand up for ourselves.

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dangerman  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:46:38am

re: #483 Citizen K

Because Dem outrage and anger is inherently invalid to them. Black outrage and anger is inherently invalid to them. And Black Dem outrage with a double-dash of Misogyny? That’s even more doubleplusinvalid to the point it needs to be smashed down immediately.

this whole thing is just another aspect of ignore and dismiss

your opinions and outrage are wrong/not real/not worthy of consideration/misplaced

so just stop it.

494
HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:47:46am

re: #491 Citizen K

They went low. We went high. We got savaged for ‘going low’ anyway. It’s almost like we get no credit for trying to rise above the fray while the other side gets credit for not going full nazi regalia on us when they march for fascism.

Nugent gets invited to the WH after telling Obama and Clinton to suck his dick. Romney who said nothing about that cries like a sniveling baby when Jay-Z raps that he’s got 99 problems but a Mitt ain’t one.

495
Belafon  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:48:56am

re: #486 jaunte

WWJD? Use a whip and toss tables.

496
Barefoot Grin  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:49:35am
497
makeitstop  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:50:39am

re: #486 jaunte

[Embedded content]

And another one goes on the ‘FYF’ list.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:51:18am

re: #496 Barefoot Grin

[Embedded content]

Lies, Miller doesn’t eat from the bird feeder, he eats from a soul repository.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:51:35am
500
Shropshire Slasher  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:52:29am

re: #482 dangerman

President Obama was in my neck of the woods.
adirondackdailyenterprise.com

SARANAC LAKE — Former President Barack Obama visited the local area for some fly fishing Thursday and Friday.

His guide was Vince Wilcox of Wiley’s Flies, who has a fly fishing shop, guide service and motel in Ray Brook. Wilcox posted about the experience on Instagram and talked to the Times Union of Albany. The Enterprise could not reach Wilcox.

Wilcox told the Albany paper Obama had only fly fished once before, in 2009 in Montana.

“Apparently, when you are the president, you don’t have a lot of time,” Wilcox said. “But he did great. He’s a natural athlete.”

Wilcox posted that Obama caught “a couple brookies.” The guide wouldn’t tell the TU how many fish the former president caught or where, but he said Obama released all the brook trout except one, because he wanted to know what it tasted like.

Remember, black flies don’t bite, they suck.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:54:26am
502
HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:55:12am

re: #499 The Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

He’s like a child. WELL MY IQ IS HIGHER THAN HERS!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:55:46am

re: #501 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

Needs to continue.

504
ObserverArt  Jun 25, 2018 • 11:56:45am

re: #486 jaunte

Matthew Dowd ✔
@matthewjdowd
If a hateful person makes you hate, they win. If a bully makes you bully, they win. If a vulgar person makes you vulgar, they win. Let us meet hate with love. Let us meet bullying with an embrace. Let us meet vulgarity with civility. This is how our country and world win.

8:50 AM - Jun 25, 2018

I have a question for Dowd.

How did Donald Trump win*?

Was Hillary and her backers hateful, vulgar bullies?

*The Presidency.

505
blueraven  Jun 25, 2018 • 12:02:59pm

All the pearl clutching about civility in the age of Trump is full of hypocrisy.

That said…I don’t believe some of these tactics are effective. That is my problem with the “go after Trumpers in public” strategy and the nasty twitter shit postings.

To win in Nov, we will need centrist democrats, independents and disillusioned Republicans who have come to see Democrats as the only sane party. I want to win dammit. I don’t want to give them weapons to use to a) boost the R turnout and b) suppress our own.

And while it may not be fair, it is true; Maxine Waters will be a big story today and not just on Fox.

Separately, as for SHS…that was a privately owned restaurant that acted on their own, not the result of public demonstrations. Totally acceptable. But of course they will use it as a case of liberal intolerance.

506
HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 12:03:42pm

Vulgarity with civility. Funny how no one lectured Trump supporters about that because the media was too busy coddling them.

507
lawhawk  Jun 25, 2018 • 12:04:22pm

re: #503 HappyWarrior

Needs to continue.

At same time, GOP approval of Trump remains at or above 80%. They are completely impervious to facts and logic at this point, and they are quite content with the white nationalist policies Trump’s exhorting. They’re fine with the fascist policies Trump’s leaning towards. They’re fine with abrogating the rule of law.

They’re fine with an authoritarian in Trump. They’re fine being in a cult.

508
stpaulbear  Jun 25, 2018 • 12:04:42pm

re: #486 jaunte

If your neighbor is battering his wife and abusing his children, you snuggles yours.
//

This is turning into a really shitty 64th b-day. I feel like this needs to be another ‘postcards to republicans’ day. I’m feeling overwhelmed by all of this Trumper crap today.

509
HappyWarrior  Jun 25, 2018 • 12:04:48pm

re: #505 blueraven

All the pearl clutching about civility in the age of Trump is full of hypocrisy.

That said…I don’t believe some of these tactics are effective. That is my problem with the “go after Trumpers in public” strategy and the nasty twitter shit postings.

To win in Nov, we will need centrist democrats, independents and disillusioned Republicans who have come to see Democrats as the only sane party. I want to win dammit. I don’t want to give them weapons to use to a) boost the R turnout and b) suppress our own.

And while it may not be fair, it is true; Maxine Waters will be a big story today and not just on Fox.

Separately, as for SHS…that was a privately owned restaurant that acted on their own, not the result of public demonstrations. Totally acceptable. But of course they will use it as a case of liberal intolerance.

That’s fair. I think my objection anyhow is the double standards.

510
Winston_Smith  Jun 25, 2018 • 12:05:30pm

Pelosi rebukes Democratic Rep. Maxine Waters for urging supporters to confront Trump administration officials

Hang it up Nancy. Why don’t you and Diane both retire and hang out at the nice girls club.

cnbc.com

511
Barefoot Grin  Jun 25, 2018 • 12:05:31pm

re: #508 stpaulbear

If your neighbor is battering his wife and abusing his children, you snuggles yours.
//

This is turning into a really shitty 64th b-day. I feel like this needs to be another ‘postcards to republicans’ day. I’m feeling overwhelmed by all of this Trumper crap today.

Happy Birthday! Go for a nice bike ride around the lake or something.

512
Unshaken Defiance  Jun 25, 2018 • 12:06:47pm

re: #481 Weaselone

The big question is why are reporters more upset about Maxine Waters?

If you ask me it’s a big answer, not a question for quite some time now.

It mat have something to do with color
513
ObserverArt  Jun 25, 2018 • 12:16:55pm

re: #508 stpaulbear

If your neighbor is battering his wife and abusing his children, you snuggles yours.
//

This is turning into a really shitty 64th b-day. I feel like this needs to be another ‘postcards to republicans’ day. I’m feeling overwhelmed by all of this Trumper crap today.

Happy birthday!

My 64th is coming up.

514
Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 25, 2018 • 12:19:14pm

re: #500 Shropshire Slasher

that’s around my place of origin. Nice area to fish for brookies for sure.

515
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 25, 2018 • 12:21:50pm

re: #513 ObserverArt

Happy birthday!

My 64th is coming up.

my 66th was yesterday


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The Pentagon Has Prepared a Cyberattack Against Russia Officials say the new Trump cyberoperations order, National Security Presidential Memorandum 13 (NSPM 13), is designed to allow Defense Secretary James Mattis and Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats to approve retaliatory strikes without the approval of others in ...
Unshaken Defiance
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Trump’s Orwellian EPA Disappears Climate Change Pagemotherboard.vice.com epa.gov pages that previously provided information about climate change have been changed from claiming that they are "updating" to an error message that reads, "We want to help you find what you are looking for," as revealed by a ...
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