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Belafon  Jun 26, 2018 • 8:33:52pm

You know what civil looks like? Democrats helping other Democrats after losing to them in the primaries. And even better, not waiting until right before the election.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 26, 2018 • 8:35:33pm

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 26, 2018 • 8:36:11pm

Where are the demands that Trump supporters be civil to the proprietors of the Red Hen?

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 26, 2018 • 8:36:29pm

re: #2 Joe Bacon 🌹

That needs to be a tweet.

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BeachDem  Jun 26, 2018 • 8:37:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2018 • 8:37:57pm

re: #1 Belafon

You know what civil looks like? Democrats helping other Democrats after losing to them in the primaries. And even better, not waiting until right before the election.

Crowley is a class act. We’ve had this here in VA-10 too. I met Jennifer Wexton yesterday and she praised each of her five former opponents by name and cited how they’ll be able to help out. I voted for one of them but Jennifer has my full support for November.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 26, 2018 • 8:38:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2018 • 8:39:58pm

re: #7 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I vacation there. I’d love to see it flip. It’s by far MD’s most conservative district but I’ll be pulling for Colvin.

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2018 • 8:41:19pm

Why isn’t the Spanish word for menu meñu?

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gocart mozart  Jun 26, 2018 • 8:43:43pm
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Belafon  Jun 26, 2018 • 8:49:10pm

And, by the way, isn’t this how primaries are supposed to work: The people pick the candidate they like the best? And then afterwards, we all come together and defeat the fascist on the other side,

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 26, 2018 • 8:49:20pm

re: #4 Patricia Kayden

Your wish is my command!

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jaunte  Jun 26, 2018 • 8:50:08pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 26, 2018 • 8:52:12pm

re: #11 Belafon

And, by the way, isn’t this how primaries are supposed to work: The people pick the candidate they like the best? And then afterwards, we all come together and defeat the fascist on the other side,

Yep. I’ve backed three primary losers the last year. Each and every one rallied their troops. And honestly doing so is how we nearly won the Va House of Delegates last fall.

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jaunte  Jun 26, 2018 • 8:52:19pm

“…under the present system migrant children are not accounted for with the same efficiency and accuracy as #Property. Certainly, that cannot satisfy the requirements of due process”

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JordanRules  Jun 26, 2018 • 8:54:48pm

re: #15 jaunte

“…under the present system migrant children are not accounted for with the same efficiency and accuracy as #Property. Certainly, that cannot satisfy the requirements of due process”

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2018 • 8:55:06pm

From my Pimsleur Spanish course:

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jaunte  Jun 26, 2018 • 8:55:23pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 26, 2018 • 8:57:21pm

Reading towards the end of last thread re: turnout in midterms.

Yes. There’s definite apathy. And that’s how we got fucking Gorsuch on the Supreme Court. Somehow we have to reach people and get them to understand that our democracy isn’t to be taken lightly and that midterms fucking matter as much as Presidential-year elections. The Constitution and institutions will only protect us when BOTH parties are bound to it.

How do we do that? I have no damn clue.

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austin_blue  Jun 26, 2018 • 8:58:06pm

Seems to be a new wave of Dems winning. Adios, fossils, hello Newbies.

Good thing that Faux and Drumpf are predicting a Red Wave.

Rude surprise this fall.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 26, 2018 • 8:58:40pm

re: #13 jaunte

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Ok. And when he doesn’t bother with this? Then what. He will ignore this just like he has everything else, and Republicans will not hold him accountable.

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VegasGolfer  Jun 26, 2018 • 8:59:30pm

From downstairs.
Gary Player is a cheating piece of shit.
No wonder trump likes him.
Google it.

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teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2018 • 9:00:56pm

re: #22 VegasGolfer

President Donald Trump Drives Golf Cart On The Green | TODAY

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austin_blue  Jun 26, 2018 • 9:06:35pm

re: #22 VegasGolfer

From downstairs.
Gary Player is a cheating piece of shit.
No wonder trump likes him.
Google it.

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Was it a tournament, or a fun round? Everybody takes mulligans when it’s not a competition. He’s also, like, 100 years old.

What a non-story.

Also, I need to refill my wine glass. But I seem to have a Feline Overlord sitting on my legs.

Dog help me, I’m incatlapitated.

Should I call 911?

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 26, 2018 • 9:11:43pm

re: #24 austin_blue

Was it a tournament, or a fun round? Everybody takes mulligans when it’s not a competition. He’s also, like, 100 years old.

What a non-story.

Also, I need to refill my wine glass. But I seem to have a Feline Overlord sitting on my legs.

Dog help me, I’m incatlapitated.

Should I call 911?

Just say “TUNA”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 26, 2018 • 9:11:51pm

re: #23 teleskiguy

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The only thing missing from that Today Show clip is the Benny Hill music!

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austin_blue  Jun 26, 2018 • 9:15:15pm

re: #25 Unshaken Defiance

Just say “TUNA”

That doesn’t work. Hates wet food. The rabbit and pheasant kibble, however, is just Killer Bee.

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VegasGolfer  Jun 26, 2018 • 9:16:01pm

re: #24 austin_blue

Golf is supposed to be a game of integrity (Trump notwithstanding). You’re supposed to call rules infractions on yourself.
I would never ever try to cheat in tournaments (which is what player is accused of).

Now, what kind of wine put you into a stupor?

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austin_blue  Jun 26, 2018 • 9:18:09pm

re: #28 VegasGolfer

Golf is supposed to be a game of integrity (Trump notwithstanding). You’re supposed to call rules infractions on yourself.
I would never ever try to cheat in tournaments (which is what player is accused of).

Now, what kind of wine put you into a stupor?

Boxed. Malbec. But what makes you think I’m in a xfreortbemxz?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 26, 2018 • 9:19:35pm

Gary Player (who is South African) once came out in support of Apartheid, though he walked the comments back several years later.

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jaunte  Jun 26, 2018 • 9:19:58pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2018 • 9:22:50pm

re: #28 VegasGolfer

In skiing there’s two ways of judging greatness. A clock. Or five judges. I dabbled in racing and freestyle when I was a teenager, I did way more racing in those formidable years. It’s a pure athleticism, you against the clock.

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teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2018 • 9:27:42pm

One thing I learned from my days ski racing; you have to imagine yourself as a beach ball rolling down the hill, finding the path of least resistance. Your job is to find that path while you are sliding downhill, in the moment.

It wasn’t an AH-HA moment, it came to me over a period of a few winters when I was young. But the moment I learned that… well, I’ve done this since then.

>
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teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2018 • 9:30:33pm

re: #33 teleskiguy

This post was for me, mostly. Reminiscing on the good times. Have to, after all this bullshit that happened today.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 26, 2018 • 9:30:59pm

re: #27 austin_blue

That doesn’t work. Hates wet food. The rabbit and pheasant kibble, however, is just Killer Bee.

Do you have catnip available?

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teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2018 • 9:32:41pm

re: #34 teleskiguy

BTW, that’s me riding shotgun. This was five years ago. I haven’t heli-skied since. But I did ski some gnarly shit at Jackson Hole last March!

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austin_blue  Jun 26, 2018 • 9:39:20pm

re: #31 jaunte

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I’m especially scared of the “large truck”. Who knows what could be on the Large Truck?

Maybe a 10 Megaton Nuclear cracker that the Norks can’t produce right now!

Maybe they stole one of ours by hacking one of our entertainment websites! Hollywood Studios released Dr. Strangelove and FailSafe! It’s all in there!

(Sorry, Alex Jones lives and broadcasts one zip code south of me, and occasionally his crazy radio shows penetrate my tin foil hat. I’m upgrading to titanium, but it’s really a problem. I need to get fucker out of my head, but no matter how I tune my FM radio, he’s right there in my brain.)

Well that was a really lame attempt at humor.

Pulls forelock.

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2018 • 9:41:50pm

Looking at my emails, all I have to say to the PCCC and related groups is this: You’re 1 for 20. Good for you. Don’t get cocky. Now you have to help govern.

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austin_blue  Jun 26, 2018 • 9:42:54pm

re: #35 Feline Fearless Leader

Do you have catnip available?

Two minutes of interest, then complete Meh.

A completely odd cat. Loves belly rubs.

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VegasGolfer  Jun 26, 2018 • 9:44:13pm

I loved watching the downhill in the old days. Like the Franz Klammmer Innsbruck olympic run in ‘76. I like Lindsay Vonn, shes pretty badass always coming back from injury and kicking ass.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 26, 2018 • 9:49:37pm

re: #39 austin_blue

Two minutes of interest, then complete Meh.

A completely odd cat. Loves belly rubs.

That actually is how catnip works. The receptors in their feline brains have to be given time to reset before the stuff has any effect again.

The tabby (now grown more than in the picture) has very floofy belly fur, but attempting to rub it is a trap - the claws immediately come out.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jun 26, 2018 • 9:49:45pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2018 • 9:52:45pm

re: #40 VegasGolfer

I loved watching the downhill in the old days. Like the Franz Klammmer Innsbruck olympic run in ‘76. I like Lindsay Vonn, shes pretty badass always coming back from injury and kicking ass.

If she stays healthy Mikaela Shiffrin will be the greatest ski racer of all time, male or female. That’s my prediction.

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Targetpractice  Jun 26, 2018 • 9:55:04pm

An incumbent Dem lost his primary? What happened to the infamous “DNC Machine” that locked liberals out from running?!

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austin_blue  Jun 26, 2018 • 10:04:48pm

Night all, working on the kitchen upgrade tomorrow. Damn this heat. It’s just a sweat fest.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 26, 2018 • 10:05:02pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 26, 2018 • 10:06:55pm

re: #46 Single-handed sailor

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And there goes your “tax cut,” wingnuts.

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Varek Raith  Jun 26, 2018 • 10:27:04pm

Good….er…something.
/(What day is it? Time?)

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KGxvi  Jun 26, 2018 • 10:35:16pm

re: #48 Varek Raith

Good….er…something.
/(What day is it? Time?)

I think the word your looking for is “grief.”

As in “good grief, what now?”

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Varek Raith  Jun 26, 2018 • 10:39:24pm

re: #49 KGxvi

I think the word your looking for is “grief.”

As in “good grief, what now?”

Ha! So true…

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JordanRules  Jun 26, 2018 • 10:40:57pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 26, 2018 • 10:41:06pm

Does anybody really know what time it is?
Does anybody really care?

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 26, 2018 • 10:45:53pm

re: #48 Varek Raith

Good….er…something.
/(What day is it? Time?)

Always time to find a few seeds to chew on
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teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2018 • 11:05:40pm

“For a guy who hates weed smokers, you have a horrible memory. The north won!”

-Michelle Wolf, talking about Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 26, 2018 • 11:11:06pm

I just watched the Ocasio ad — very powerful. MSNBC made the point that Crowley didn’t take the race seriously; his position was handed to him in the 1990’s and he never faced any real opposition. The composition of the district has changed dramatically over the years and she represents the newer residents. In any case low turnout can lead to unexpected results, but she looks like a very promising candidate. When she takes office, my guess is that many of her staff may be those currently be working for Crowley. The Democrats in Washington need more new blood and she certainly provides it.

-minor correction

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 26, 2018 • 11:14:16pm

We already live in a technocratic dystopia akin to Terry Gilliam’s Brazil.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 26, 2018 • 11:16:12pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 26, 2018 • 11:21:49pm

Walmart customers. Is there any depth to which they will not plunge?

Warning! May cause permanent psychic damage:

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 26, 2018 • 11:27:01pm

Lady with a bag over her head. If I went to Walmart I would probably do that too.

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teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2018 • 11:30:29pm

re: #56 goddamnedfrank

I’m positive some Russian troll knows everything about me, and at the right opportunity will use their kompromat on Twitter and Facebook.

Boy, I’m so glad I’m a human of large unimportance.

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Bass Reeves  Jun 26, 2018 • 11:37:16pm

re: #60 teleskiguy

Blackmail only works if you care more about what they uncover than what they want you to compromise.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 26, 2018 • 11:41:38pm

REMINDER: This video isn’t from Nazi Germany, it was taken last month in America (Georgia in fact).

Neo-Nazis Burned A Swastika After Their Rally In Georgia | TIME

Sherman’s March would be easier this time: After an additional 10 generations of inbreeding (15.5 years avg.) they would probably be too stupid to run from him.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 27, 2018 • 12:07:29am

How often does England have forest fires?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 27, 2018 • 12:16:44am

re: #11 Belafon

And, by the way, isn’t this how primaries are supposed to work: The people pick the candidate they like the best? And then afterwards, we all come together and defeat the fascist on the other side,

What is all the whinging going on here about “oh noez!” the Democratic Socialist knocked off the incumbent Democrat so she’s argle bargle woomanz [wait, someone called her a girl because that bar has been elevated above 28] no policy she’ll scare off the Dems blah blah?

Geez I ran openly as a member of the DSA and got elected in an overwhelmingly Republican town (twice), in 2014 winning over the town gun shop owner in an open carry state. It’s not like we’re marching with Castro and Guevara to overthrow the government.

Presuming she wins her district in the General Election (and I imagine she will), she will be taking her foreign policy degree into the House (and after the Dumpster fire we have in the White House, we’re going to need people who understand foreign policy).

Moreover, when bills come up for votes, they are either “aye” or “nay” or “abstain” or “absent.” Assuming she is not going to abstain or be absent, I presume she will cast “nay” on any GOP rodent copulation that comes her way.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 27, 2018 • 12:20:16am

re: #12 Joe Bacon 🌹

Your wish is my command!

Twitter marks it as “sensitive material” I have to affirm to open.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 27, 2018 • 12:53:28am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 27, 2018 • 1:02:21am

Western Nebraska news:

California pot shops slash prices ahead of new testing rules (goes to the Scottsbluff Star-Herald, more at the link):

Bargain basement bud is on the menu in California, but you need to act fast to cash in on the cheap weed.

Regulations being phased in six months after the state broadly legalized marijuana require that pot sold after Saturday meet strict quality standards, so retailers unloading untested inventory are offering blowout prices.

Deep discounts on everything from edibles to joints reflect the last days of the heady first phase of legal recreational pot. They could be followed by empty shelves as many stores scramble to restock with properly tested and packaged products.

“You can smell it. There’s a certain desperation from stores that bought too much and they have to dump it,” said John Atari, CEO of Source Cannabis Farms, a licensed cultivator in Los Angeles. “There’s going to be a big shortage of clean product come July 1.”

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 27, 2018 • 1:12:27am
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Single-handed sailor  Jun 27, 2018 • 1:19:00am

re: #67 Anymouse 🌹

I’m still buying it old school. I have yet to visit a California weed store.

This months strain is Blue Cheese.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 27, 2018 • 1:22:09am

re: #69 Single-handed sailor

I’m still buying it old school. I have yet to visit a California weed store.

This months strain is Blue Cheese.

Well, I stay away from it, primarily because of my position in my town (I imagine a lot of people don’t admit what they do here though, and Colorado is just down the road a bit), secondarily because I am wary of VA testing (they’re not supposed to pass along records to the local police here or to the DEA but one big happy government), plus not sure how it might or might not interfere with my epilepsy meds.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 27, 2018 • 1:32:42am
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Single-handed sailor  Jun 27, 2018 • 1:39:00am

re: #70 Anymouse 🌹

It seems to be a good anti-seizure medication. I’ve seen it used effectively by a couple of my friends. It won’t be long until it’s medically legal in the whole US. I’ve used it for pain distraction before. I’m not convinced it can actually reduce pain but you can forget for a few minutes at a time.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 27, 2018 • 1:40:33am

Jesus Christ, Neville Chamberlain negotiated a better deal.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 27, 2018 • 1:50:01am
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Single-handed sailor  Jun 27, 2018 • 2:02:36am
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Single-handed sailor  Jun 27, 2018 • 2:02:52am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 27, 2018 • 2:10:22am

re: #71 Ace-o-aces

Tons of derp in that thread “what about North Korea and Venezuela?”

Those were added on the third attempt to make it not look like a Muslim ban. Funny how the banned countries are those without Trump properties, and the nations which actually had citizens carry out attacks against our country are still allowed to travel here.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 27, 2018 • 2:14:42am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 27, 2018 • 2:16:23am

re: #72 Single-handed sailor

It seems to be a good anti-seizure medication. I’ve seen it used effectively by a couple of my friends. It won’t be long until it’s medically legal in the whole US. I’ve used it for pain distraction before. I’m not convinced it can actually reduce pain but you can forget for a few minutes at a time.

Well, “medical” is not equivalent to “recreational.” In theory medical cannabis is legal in Nebraska (but there is no mechanism to get approval for it).

As for epilepsy, certain components of CBD have been shown to have positive effect on pediatric epilepsy, but I don’t think I can convince anyone I am a five-year-old. /s (The FDA just approved a new CBD drug the other day, which is legal throughout the country, regardless of state laws.)

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 27, 2018 • 2:17:50am

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹

Tons of derp in that thread “what about North Korea and Venezuela?”

Those were added on the third attempt to make it not look like a Muslim ban. Funny how the banned countries are those without Trump properties, and the nations which actually had citizens carry out attacks against our country are still allowed to travel here.

I was mostly amused by the attempts by wingnuts on that thread to explaining the dangers of anti-semitism (goy-splaining?).
It’s like, “Hey dude, you know who chased my ancestors out of Europe? Hint, they weren’t Muslims.”

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Jun 27, 2018 • 2:19:15am

re: #70 Anymouse 🌹

Grand mal guy here, haven’t had a seizure in over 35 years though. The last one was in my mid-20’s. I still get some of the aura stuff but nothing ever happens. I attribute my lack of seizures (and no need for medication) to weed as that was all I changed. The more I smoked weed, the fewer seizures I had so I kept it up and they eventually stopped. I won’t say how much I smoke but a truckload daily would be a good starting point. ;) I quit torching a bong or pipe full of weed a few years ago and switched to vaping (dabs via bong & pen).

CBDs are what do the job but I’ve never been one to pass on the THC too. :)

Regarding the testing for sales, we went through that here in Oregon when we made the transition to required testing. It was dry for a bit but it picked up after about two months. Now we’re buried in choices here and that’s just fine with me. As we’re just across the border from them, I expect to see more than a few Californians hitting up our shops once the drought hits there.

Time to stock up!

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Jun 27, 2018 • 2:25:11am

Female DJ on the radio talking about the song “Babe” by Styx that is just starting to play:

“Babe, by Styx, which makes me think of that story about that pig. I guess you can insert any Trump joke here.” /fade to music

lol!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 27, 2018 • 2:27:16am

re: #81 Odie Hugh Manatee

A truckload a day. LOL

For now, until the dust settles on maryjane in my state (and the VA - I’m not entirely sure they won’t turn over test records if asked), I’ll stay (sadly) away from it.

I haven’t had any seizures in a long time. (Last in 2006.) Using the old terms, mine are grand and petit mal.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 27, 2018 • 2:32:06am

I’m off to bed. I have to be up early in the morning for more water stuff.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 27, 2018 • 2:33:43am
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Dave In Austin  Jun 27, 2018 • 2:42:12am

I predict Peach Parfiet will legalize weed 6 mos before the 2020 election.

This is my prediction……

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Jun 27, 2018 • 2:46:58am

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹

Yeah, mine started out as petit mal in my childhood and graduated to full blown grand mal in my teen years. Stopping the medication was a bit scary but I am glad that I was able to as that shit flat out sucked. It took me some time to adjust to (essentially) living stoned but I learned that you can literally smoke yourself straight if you keep at it long enough.

:)

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Dave In Austin  Jun 27, 2018 • 3:02:12am
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Dave In Austin  Jun 27, 2018 • 3:16:36am

Good Fucking Morning America!!!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 3:50:17am

re: #89 Dave In Austin

Good Fucking Morning America!!!

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So when does he trash HD’s products on Twitter?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 3:53:27am

re: #80 Ace-o-aces

I was mostly amused by the attempts by wingnuts on that thread to explaining the dangers of anti-semitism (goy-splaining?).
It’s like, “Hey dude, you know who chased my ancestors out of Europe? Hint, they weren’t Muslims.”

I’m not Jewish but man these people have this delusion that anti Semitic beliefs has never been a part of Christianity. In the former Yugoslavia, where I have some family, the Croatians Utasse that included clergy were some of the worst.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 27, 2018 • 4:02:38am

re: #46 Single-handed sailor

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But Governor Matt Bevin says Bourbon sales won’t be hurt. He also says that cell phones are the cause of school shootings.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 27, 2018 • 4:31:07am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 4:32:00am

re: #93 Dave In Austin

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Yawn. Go back to bed you old wrinkled piece of shit.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 27, 2018 • 4:43:39am

re: #89 Dave In Austin

Good Fucking Morning America!!!

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Downstairs there was an assertion that this was a fake quote; that the verified Levatich statement was completely different.

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makeitstop  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:04:39am

re: #89 Dave In Austin

Good Fucking Morning America!!!

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There seems to be some dispute as to the accuracy of that quote. Harley’s CEO did make a statement about Trump, but the word ‘moron’ was not in it.

The statement was made in a telephone interview with Bloomberg that published Tuesday. Levatich said the decision to build in Thailand was “Plan B” after the U.S. abandoned TPP.

“We would rather not make the investment in (the Thailand plant), but that’s what’s necessary to access a very important market,” Levatich told Bloomberg. “It is a direct example of how trade policies could help this company, but we have to get on with our work to grow the business by any means possible, and that’s what we’re doing.”

My theory (which is mine, and which belongs to me) is that Daily Caller is trying to stir up the MAGAts to hate on H-D.

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JordanRules  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:13:15am
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dangerman  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:14:06am

re: #76 Single-handed sailor

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that was impressive
both times

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:17:40am

re: #97 JordanRules

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Carter btw is the self described socialist that got elected in the VA legislature. Danica being Danica Roem. I’m fine with this. I’m sure Crowley was a good representative but Ocasio earned that nomination. I don’t like the Bros attacking anyone who supported HRC and as much as I dislike Sanders, I don’t think anyone who supported him is a bad candidate or person. In fact, one of my best friends I’ve made from campaign work is someone who was inspired to get into liberal politics because of him. And he’s a pragmatist.

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dangerman  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:18:09am

re: #96 makeitstop

There seems to be some dispute as to the accuracy of that quote. Harley’s CEO did make a statement about Trump, but the word ‘moron’ was not in it.

My theory (which is mine, and which belongs to me) is that Daily Caller is trying to stir up the MAGAts to hate on H-D.

+10

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dangerman  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:20:18am

re: #97 JordanRules

Three years ago, I was installing light switches for a living. Two years ago, @pwcdanica was writing news articles for low pay and no benefits. Last year, @Ocasio2018 worked as a bartender.

The future of politics isn’t just FOR the working class, it IS the working class.

when “politics” becomes an economic career path it compromises your ethics and motivations

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:23:12am

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹

Tons of derp in that thread “what about North Korea and Venezuela?”

Those were added on the third attempt to make it not look like a Muslim ban. Funny how the banned countries are those without Trump properties, and the nations which actually had citizens carry out attacks against our country are still allowed to travel here.

NK and VZ are really odd examples, too. Both countries are basket-cases, and denying admittance to anyone from those countries is cruel, and honestly, more than a little baffling.

Iran is not exactly a basket-case but the U.S. has effectively been in engaged in a cold war with that country since 1980 and has been overtly and covertly seeking its leaders overthrow, so why we would not admit people from there is again kind of stupid.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:24:50am

re: #68 Ace-o-aces

Want a real Mitt Romney story? In 2008 I came out in support of Sen McCain in the (R) primary. This clown CALLED ME at home, and said “why don’t you f’ing wait until we get a candidate before you support someone” to which I said, go fuck yourself and hung up.

— Curt Schilling

Almost forgot about this guy. And, Curt, nobody cares. Really.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:26:54am

re: #5 BeachDem

Wow! Big Trump Hater Congressman Joe Crowley, who many expected was going to take Nancy Pelosi’s place, just LOST his primary election. In other words, he’s out! That is a big one that nobody saw happening. Perhaps he should have been nicer, and more respectful, to his President!

— Donald J. Trump

The bolded portion of this tweet is the only thing of interest to DJT.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:30:25am

re: #103 Sir John Barron

Almost forgot about this guy. And, Curt, nobody cares. Really.

He thinks being the James Woods of baseball players is a winning look. It’s a shame. I’m a baseball fan and Curt has a decent argument for a Hall of Fame ballot but the more he reminds people that he’s a right wing asshole, the more he shoots himself in the foot. I don’t feel bad just so it’s clear but I do hate seeing an all time great become known as that angry douche on Twitter. As for Romney, fuck him too. and I hope he actually gets a race.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:30:30am

You know what I’m really sick of? I’m really sick of all the articles and TV bits by lamestream media personality elites demanding that popular vote loser DJT reach out to liberal Democrats and try to reach consensus on the many troubling issues affecting our country. Just sick of it! “Why doesn’t the President reach out to his opponents and seek common ground?” Phewy!

Oh, wait, you know what, I’m actually not sick of it because none of those articles or TV bits have appeared in the last 18 months. Amazing isn’t it?

I could swear there were articles like that about Obama and Republicans nonstop for eight years.

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b.d.  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:32:58am

Every Republicans since 1982:

DEMOCRATS ARE SOCIALISTS!, MARXISTS!

So by having a “real” socialist is going to be a bridge too far? Will the wingnuts now say that she is the same as the rest of the Dems or that they were full of crap about Dems being Socialists all along?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:33:43am

re: #106 Sir John Barron

You know what I’m really sick of? I’m really sick of all the articles and TV bits by lamestream media personality elites demanding that popular vote loser DJT reach out to liberal Democrats and try to reach consensus on the many troubling issues affecting our country. Just sick of it! “Why doesn’t the President reach out to his opponents and seek common ground?” Phewy!

Oh, wait, you know what, I’m actually not sick of it because none of those articles or TV bits have appeared in the last 18 months. Amazing isn’t it?

I could swear there were articles like that about Obama and Republicans nonstop for eight years.

He loses by over 2 million popular votes and the media just shrugs and goes “Well it was California and New York” yeah because the people who live there matter less than the working class saints in the Rust Belt that gave Trump the edge in the end.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:34:22am

re: #106 Sir John Barron

Instead we get endless bits about how DJT’s people in the heartland still support him.

And I don’t mind some of that, really I don’t. It’s helpful to know what his supporters and people in the middle of the country think about things.

But it’s striking how the burden of responsibility always seems to lie with the Dem president or Congress for most our media.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:35:19am

re: #107 b.d.

Every Republicans since 1982:

DEMOCRATS ARE SOCIALISTS!, MARXISTS!

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So by having a “real” socialist is going to be a bridge too far? Will the wingnuts now say that she is the same as the rest of the Dems or that they were full of crap about Dems being Socialists all along?

Funny how having a Calvinist Objectivist- Dave Brat wasn’t going to sink the GOP.. As for her being a socialist. There are far worse things to be that politicians get away with including Trump himself but not just Trump but Steve King who will probably win re-election easily despite being the most vile racist in Congress.

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wheat-dogg  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:36:16am

re: #107 b.d.

Every Republicans since 1982:

DEMOCRATS ARE SOCIALISTS!, MARXISTS!

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So by having a “real” socialist is going to be a bridge too far? Will the wingnuts now say that she is the same as the rest of the Dems or that they were full of crap about Dems being Socialists all along?

The real socialists are all the benefactors of the RWNJ welfare state, where all you need to make money and get airtime is to talk shit about Democrats and librulz. Otherwise, people like Tammy Looneygun, Jacob Wohl and Ann Coulter would have to find real jobs.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:36:21am

re: #108 HappyWarrior

And I’m trying to imagine the media and Republicans if Obama spent eight years holding insulting cult rallies and railing against opponents on Twitter.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:36:24am

re: #109 Sir John Barron

Instead we get endless bits about how DJT’s people in the heartland still support him.

And I don’t mind some of that, really I don’t. It’s helpful to know what his supporters and people in the middle of the country think about things.

But it’s striking how the burden of responsibility always seems to lie with the Dem president or Congress for most our media.

I don’t mind some of it either but for once, I’d like the media to try to reach out to those of us who were critical of a Trump presidency from the start. Instead, we’re treated constantly to this idea that only white Americans in the heartland matter.

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dangerman  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:36:45am

have you seen this?

churches et al will be taxed on fringe benefits

When Congress passes a 500-page bill with a 600-page explanation that no member read before the vote, which took place 4 days after they were released, well, strange stuff can happen. It is only now becoming clear that one consequence of the tax-cut bill will be to tax nonprofits, such as churches, hospitals, orchestras, and other historically exempt organizations at a rate of 21% on fringe benefits they pay their employees.

forget the outrage of the italics, note the bold

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b.d.  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:37:21am

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Funny how having a Calvinist Objectivist- Dave Brat wasn’t going to sink the GOP.. As for her being a socialist. There are far worse things to be that politicians get away with including Trump himself but not just Trump but Steve King who will probably win re-election easily despite being the most vile racist in Congress.

Also 8 years of the Republicans screaming how Obama was a socialist was the best branding effort that any socialist could ever hope for.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:37:34am

re: #107 b.d.

Every Republicans since 1982:

DEMOCRATS ARE SOCIALISTS!, MARXISTS!

So by having a “real” socialist is going to be a bridge too far? Will the wingnuts now say that she is the same as the rest of the Dems or that they were full of crap about Dems being Socialists all along?

It sounds like she’s a good representative of her new constituents, better than Crowley. And Manchin is as close a representative of his state that you can get and call the person a Democrat. That’s our party. We represent the country.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:38:12am

USA! USA! USA!

MAGA!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:38:28am

re: #112 Sir John Barron

And I’m trying to imagine the media and Republicans if Obama spent eight years holding insulting cult rallies and railing against opponents on Twitter.

Shit you saw how the late Krauthammer reacted when Obama would use the word “I.” Trump is the most narcissistic person ever to be President and the Trumpers love him for it. I highly doubt most of that audience let alone him himself knew who David Lynch was before Lynch offered some praise of Trump. Honestly what I want to know from the Trumpers is what is your limit with the guy. But the thing is they hate us more than they actually like him so as long as we hate him, they’ll continue to embrace him.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:39:32am

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

USA! USA! USA!

MAGA!

Well, yeah. I think that was part of the goal. And the woman with the “He can grab my” shirt was OK with it.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:41:25am
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dangerman  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:41:26am

re: #107 b.d.

Every Republicans since 1982:

DEMOCRATS ARE SOCIALISTS!, MARXISTS!

Warning from @Time: “The Ds may have found a new rising star on Tuesday night, but adding a socialist to the Dem caucus is unlikely to help the Midwestern Ds’ efforts to pick off the 23 seats the party needs to capture the majority this fall.”

this is idiocy

a dem wins a primary in NY and somehow that translates into won’t help midwestern D’s efforts to take R seats?

of course it wont
it’s a NY primary ya numbskulls

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:41:51am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:41:54am

re: #116 Belafon

It sounds like she’s a good representative of her new constituents, better than Crowley. And Manchin is as close a representative of his state that you can get and call the person a Democrat. That’s our party. We represent the country.

That’s what Brian didn’t get last night. I actually really like what she brings to the table. I’m not going to hold her support of Bernie against her.

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dangerman  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:42:24am

re: #112 Sir John Barron

And I’m trying to imagine the media and Republicans if Obama spent eight years holding insulting cult rallies and railing against opponents on Twitter.

eight years?
he wouldnt have lasted 2 days

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:43:10am

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She ain’t wrong.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:43:23am

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

1. India

2. Afghanistan

3. Syria

4. Somalia

5. Saudi Arabia

6. Pakistan

7. Democratic Republic of Congo

8. Yemen

9. Nigeria

10. United States

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dangerman  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:44:12am

re: #113 HappyWarrior

I don’t mind some of it either but for once, I’d like the media to try to reach out to those of us who were critical of a Trump presidency from the start. Instead, we’re treated constantly to this idea that only white Americans in the heartland matter.

i think its worse than that

by promoting only this point of view theyre impling that its representative of everyone

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:44:54am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:45:27am

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wow, she sounds very shrill and not at all civil.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:45:51am

re: #127 dangerman

i think its worse than that

by promoting only this point of view theyre impling that its representative of everyone

Yes indeed. For once, I’d like to see the NYT, WaPo, or whoever go into places where there’s tons of immigrants or working people of color and get their perspective. That’s something I think Sanders has continued to misrepresent. We haven’t lost the Working Class. We lost the WWC but what Bernie hasn’t told people is we lost them a long time ago.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:46:34am

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Laura’s such a pathetic little drama queen.

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Citizen K  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:47:32am

This is what ‘civility’ amounts to in the current political atmosphere:

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jeffreyw  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:47:45am

Imgur


Good morning!

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dangerman  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:48:43am

re: #130 HappyWarrior

Yes indeed. For once, I’d like to see the NYT, WaPo, or whoever go into places where there’s tons of immigrants or working people of color and get their perspective. That’s something I think Sanders has continued to misrepresent. We haven’t lost the Working Class. We lost the WWC but what Bernie hasn’t told people is we lost them a long time ago.

for once or actually more than once, i’d like to seem them get and print any other perspective

by so narrowly focusing, they are defacto supporters and cheerleaders

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:49:03am

re: #132 Citizen K

This is what ‘civility’ amounts to in the current political atmosphere:

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Indeed. As I’ve said. The media seems to get more upset about talking about white nationalism i.e. calling Stephen Miller one than actual white nationalism- the things Miller believes. I’m sorry but Miller’s entire life in politics from the time he was in high school to the present has been one giant dump on anyone who isn’t a white heterosexual male.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:49:22am

The media has often drawn attention to DJT’s outrageous and insulting behavior, to his crazy tweets and policy pronouncements, but it hasn’t gotten around to asking, challenging, an administration that lost the popular vote to reach out to its partisan opponents in Congress, especially the Senate, where the administration’s margin of control is slim. It just seems to be accepted that he has no obligation to do this or that the country would be better off if he did.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:51:16am

re: #136 Sir John Barron

The media has often drawn attention to DJT’s outrageous and insulting behavior, to his crazy tweets and policy pronouncements, but it hasn’t gotten around to asking, challenging, an administration that lost the popular vote to reach out to its partisan opponents in Congress, especially the Senate, where the administration’s margin of control is slim. It just seems to be accepted that he has no obligation to do this or that the country would be better off if he did.

Exactly. And let me point out another thing, I’m tired of his opponents either painted as either violent radicals of color or out of touch elites. I’m not wealthy and I presume most of you aren’t either. But instead we’ve gotten this narrative that Trump represents the average American and his opponents don’t.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:51:18am

uh oh…it’s capslock time…

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:51:24am

Local Council-woman tries her hand at online shaming, gets shamed for trying:

When Albany Common Councilwoman Judy Doesschate saw a Mohawk Ambulance double-parked outside a Stewart’s Shops on New Scotland Avenue, she took a picture. She also took a picture of the crew inside the store.

She then posted the pictures Monday evening on her Common Councilmember Facebook page, and asked what others thought about the ambulance being double-parked. “People in my neighborhood are very concerned about traffic and pedestrian safety, and I was hoping this post would make people think twice about double-parking, or illegally parking, in this neighborhood,” Doesschate, who represents the 9th Ward in Albany, said in an interview Tuesday. That wasn’t the direction the conversation took online.

Commenters quickly jumped on Doesschate, expressing outrage that she would target emergency workers and calling for her to lose her job. It was shared nearly 900 times as of 10:40 a.m. Tuesday, and had over 2,000 comments. Albany City Hall had received many calls expressing outrage over the post as well, city officials said.

Doesschate pulled it down around noon.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:52:03am

re: #126 Shropshire Slasher

Interesting, India. I’ve heard about the cases of public assault but hadn’t realized how widespread it was, or why.

Also, none of those countries are from Latin America or South America, the places, “shtholes”, that are sending us all their murderers and rapists and such. ////

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:52:47am

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

uh oh…it’s capslock time…

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You have a majority in both Houses, Dumbo. If Goodlatte’s bill is as great as you claim it is, it should pass both Houses. But I get it you blame the Democrats because you don’t know how to actually get shit done and you don’t know immigration policy from a horse’s dupa.

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dangerman  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:52:58am

also from electoral-vote.com this AM

The conclusion is that the members of Congress are rich far beyond that of the people they represent. This makes many of them completely unaware of what life is like for millions of Americans, so it is no wonder that their decisions often reflect the wishes of rich people rather than poor people (and then there is the matter of what their donors want, but that is another story).

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:53:17am

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

uh oh…it’s capslock time…

Ah, another example of the president reaching out to his opponents and seeking common ground.

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dangerman  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:54:29am

re: #136 Sir John Barron

The media has often drawn attention to DJT’s outrageous and insulting behavior, to his crazy tweets and policy pronouncements, but it hasn’t gotten around to asking, challenging, an administration that lost the popular vote to reach out to its partisan opponents in Congress, especially the Senate, where the administration’s margin of control is slim. It just seems to be accepted that he has no obligation to do this or that the country would be better off if he did.

there’s no money in it for the media to do this
and it could hinder their access

so all in all, not newsworthy

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:54:36am

re: #142 dangerman

also from electoral-vote.com this AM

A lot of them then make matters worse by not attending Town Halls. Just saw some good news here. Wexton, our nominee here in VA-10 is up 10 points over the GOP incumbent, Comstock. Comstock has refused to hold Town Halls and plays the tiptoe game on Trump. This is a district Clinton won and I’m going to do my part to finally make it Democratic.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:54:58am

re: #138 Backwoods_Sleuth

uh oh…it’s capslock time…

The ALL CAPS at this hour of the morning should be embarrassing, even to him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:55:15am
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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:55:42am

re: #140 Sir John Barron

If you put America on the top 10 list, it will get you free media coverage!!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:56:02am

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She ratehr pointed out his anti-Muslim sentiment as both a candidate and now President that Roberts ignores.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:57:06am

re: #145 HappyWarrior

A lot of them then make matters worse by not attending Town Halls. Just saw some good news here. Wexton, our nominee here in VA-10 is up 10 points over the GOP incumbent, Comstock. Comstock has refused to hold Town Halls and plays the tiptoe game on Trump. This is a district Clinton won and I’m going to do my part to finally make it Democratic.

“Well, congressional town halls were great and necessary when Dems were in charge and trying to pass the tyrannical ACA but since the GOP is in charge constituents should just stay home and listen and not bother their betters.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:58:32am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:59:00am

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, objecting to a presidential policy or EO is “lashing out at” the president.

Good to know.

/

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 5:59:35am

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m glad no GOP SCOTUS members or members of Congress ever “lashed out at” President Obama in his eight years.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:03:38am
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makeitstop  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:03:43am

I’m looking that this year’s releases for Record Store Day, and there’s some pretty cool stuff coming this year! Three Bowie records! A re-release of the Stooges debut and an Iggy live album! Rage Against The Machine’s performance at the 2000 Democratic convention! Whole buncha stuff, I’m excited.

We’re announcing that Twisted will re-issue their 1983 ‘Live at the Marquee’ album on colored vinyl for RSD at 10:00. There, y’all got an exclusive, but don’t tell anybody until 10:01. :)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:05:04am
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:08:35am

re: #12 Joe Bacon 🌹

Your wish is my command!

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Perfect!!! Just saw a GOP ad featuring Samantha Bee, Maxine Waters, etc. Democrats need to respond with an ad of Trump being his normal, bullying self. He was uncivil when he announced his run for President and attacked Mexicans and he hasn’t turned back. That’s what the media should focus on.

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JordanRules  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:09:08am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:10:46am

re: #157 Patricia Kayden

Perfect!!! Just saw a GOP ad featuring Samantha Bee, Maxine Waters, etc. Democrats need to respond with an ad of Trump being his normal, bullying self. He was uncivil when he announced his run for President and attacked Mexicans and he hasn’t turned back. That’s what the media should focus on.

Media and pundits insist Dems shouldn’t just be “anti-Drump” but by making “civility” an issue they sort of force Dems to respond in kind.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:10:54am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:12:14am

re: #158 JordanRules

“Yeah, I mean I got you guys the DNC emails and DrumpF has consistently claimed I wasn’t behind it all and has helpfully continued to attack your own country’s IC, and I like that he fired that pesky Comey, but really you guys must do more to quiet down the Dems in your Congress.”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:12:24am

I was glad that some in the media i.e. Chris Hayes did push back and bring up the business owner that not only denied Biden service but got treated like a hero by the RNC and Romney-Ryan for it.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:13:12am

re: #161 Sir John Barron

“Yeah, I mean I got you guys the DNC emails and DrumpF has consistently claimed I wasn’t behind it all and has helpfully continued to attack your own country’s IC, and I like that he fired that pesky Comey, but really you guys must do more to quiet down the Dems in your Congress.”

Putin isn’t as strong as we think. Hopefully we can hit him back where it hurts and cripple the support he has.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:13:17am

re: #160 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s the American way!

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:13:59am

re: #163 HappyWarrior

Putin isn’t as strong as we think. Hopefully we can hit him back where it hurts and cripple the support he has.

We just have a president who’s weaker.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:15:45am

re: #163 HappyWarrior

Putin isn’t as strong as we think. Hopefully we can hit him back where it hurts and cripple the support he has.

If the administration would hit him back, and they have to some extent, the “Deep State” State Department applied some sanctions. But Drump has been resistent, and if Dems don’t make an issue out of this, of DJT’s warm support of Putin and his attempt to thwart the special counsel investigation, they will have failed mightily.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:17:35am

re: #166 Sir John Barron

If the administration would hit him back, and they have to some extent, the “Deep State” State Department applied some sanctions. But Drump has been resistent, and if Dems don’t make an issue out of this, of DJT’s warm support of Putin and his attempt to thwart the special counsel investigation, they will have failed mightily.

I’m pretty sure most Americans rate the sanctions of Putin around the same level as pineapple on pizza.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:18:16am

ummm…

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:18:18am

re: #163 HappyWarrior

Putin isn’t as strong as we think. Hopefully we can hit him back where it hurts and cripple the support he has.

I see no reason we citizens can’t strike back in a similar (short of hacking) propaganda/shit stirring fashion over there. Destabilization can happen anywhere.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:22:46am

re: #31 jaunte

Just FYI, satellite imagery suggests N. Korea is continuing to upgrade its nuclear enrichment facility

This strikes me as a “dog bites man” story. No duh. The N. Koreans aren’t going to stop doing what they’ve been doing for the past thirty years regardless of KJU’s ‘outreach’ to the orange shit-goblin.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:23:15am

re: #158 JordanRules

Putin doesn’t mention his hacking of the DNC, his harboring of Snowden, or his fake news manipulating of social media, but sure, dude, it’s all U.S. domestic politics.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:24:48am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:27:44am

San Francisco has an economic experiment well underway. The results are telling. But does the attention to the SF regulations and tech money overlay obscure the bigger picture? This is what inflation does.
nytimes.com

San Francisco’s tech riches have fed demand for restaurants — and some wealthy tech workers have decided they would also like to be partners in a restaurant, opening up more investment. But as those highly paid workers have also driven demand for scarce housing, the city has struggled to keep lower-wage workers afloat.

On July 1, the minimum wage in San Francisco will hit $15 an hour, following incremental raises from $10.74 in 2014. The city also requires employers with at least 20 workers to pay health care costs beyond the mandates of the Affordable Care Act, in addition to paid sick leave and parental leave.

Despite those benefits, many workers say they can’t afford to live here, or to stay in the industry. And partly as a result of those benefits, restaurateurs say they can’t afford the workers who remain. A dishwasher can now make $18 or $19 an hour. And because of California labor laws, even tipped workers like servers earn at least the full minimum wage, unlike their peers in most other states.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:28:41am

re: #170 Colère Tueur de Lapin

This strikes me as a “dog bites man” story. No duh. The N. Koreans aren’t going to stop doing what they’ve been doing for the past thirty years regardless of KJU’s ‘outreach’ to the orange shit-goblin.

For us yes indeed. But it’s a weapon to hit Trump with anyway.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:29:36am

re: #171 Sir John Barron

Putin doesn’t mention his hacking of the DNC, his harboring of Snowden, or his fake news manipulating of social media, but sure, dude, it’s all U.S. domestic politics.

I’m sure he and Bolton had a good laugh about that when the cameras were off.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:31:04am

re: #53 Feline Fearless Leader

Fat Chipmunk

ZOMG. That is one seriously obese chipmunk. Kinda like the squirrels in my yard.

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lawhawk  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:31:30am

re: #1 Belafon

You know what civil looks like? Democrats helping other Democrats after losing to them in the primaries. And even better, not waiting until right before the election.

Back in the day, I used to interact with Crowley in the NYS legislature. He was a good guy then, and his district’s demographics have changed, and this is being remarked upon by the national media as some kind of fight for the soul of the Democratic party.

It’s all bullshit. Sometimes voters decide they want someone new (did they say the same when Rangel lost his reelection bid?) Demographic changes coupled with the fact that women and minorities are leading the charge on fighting Trump and the regressive GOP policies are coming into play.

Crowley thought he had the win wrapped up and missed the sea change that happened in his district.

It’s only a good thing for Democrats - interesting things happen when people turn out for votes. And rolling back the GOP regressive agenda starts with running candidates in every election and even giving incumbents a run for their money - keep everyone on their toes so they aren’t complacent.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:33:23am

re: #177 lawhawk

Back in the day, I used to interact with Crowley in the NYS legislature. He was a good guy then, and his district’s demographics have changed, and this is being remarked upon by the national media as some kind of fight for the soul of the Democratic party.

It’s all bullshit. Sometimes voters decide they want someone new (did they say the same when Rangel lost his reelection bid?) Demographic changes coupled with the fact that women and minorities are leading the charge on fighting Trump and the regressive GOP policies are coming into play.

Crowley thought he had the win wrapped up and missed the sea change that happened in his district.

It’s only a good thing for Democrats - interesting things happen when people turn out for votes. And rolling back the GOP regressive agenda starts with running candidates in every election and even giving incumbents a run for their money - keep everyone on their toes so they aren’t complacent.

Can’t cook without heat right?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:34:18am

I’m doing family research as I often do before I start up work for the day. And I’m just struck by the “chain migration.” I have a book that I inherited from my grandfather, the book is mainly about his first cousin’s family but he’s related to her through both parents- fifth cousins via her mother and first cousins via the father. Anyhow, I’m seeing that lots people gladly sponsored people and families lived near by each other. We haven’t documented this with my mom’s mom family but that happened too and I know with two of my Dad’s great great grandfathers, a brother followed from Ireland and Germany. And you know what, I’m sure many American families are like this and we don’t give it much thought. And I guess I understand why but since “chain migration” has become a scare word in recent years. I’d call it family migration.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:35:03am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:35:51am

re: #178 Unshaken Defiance

Can’t cook without heat right?

Indeed and honestly after reading about Alexandria, I’m legitimately impressed by this woman. And I give Crowley full credit for not throwing a tantrum and fully rallying behind her.

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Citizen K  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:36:30am
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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:36:39am

Anyone have stats on how many women and minorities are on Democratic races for House and Senate this fall?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:36:46am

re: #180 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I already think she’s better than Bernie simply because of that.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:37:38am

re: #182 Citizen K

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I like her. And she’s very likely going to be the first person in Congress younger than me.

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lawhawk  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:38:33am

re: #181 HappyWarrior

Crowley has been in politics for 30+ years. He knows that supporting Democrats helps defend against the GOP regressive policies. He’s not going to throw a tantrum because he got upset in a primary.

He sees the bigger picture. He knows what’s at stake.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:39:37am

re: #186 lawhawk

Crowley has been in politics for 30+ years. He knows that supporting Democrats helps defend against the GOP regressive policies. He’s not going to throw a tantrum because he got upset in a primary.

He sees the bigger picture. He knows what’s at stake.

Yeah I’m not surprised by this. Glad to know there are Dems like him, Perriello here in VA, and the five that lost to Jennifer Wexton here in VA-10 who are what I call Big Picture Dems.

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MsJ  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:40:06am

She is so funny. Honestly, I love this Twitter feed.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:40:25am

re: #182 Citizen K

I think the people who are making this into a fight “for the soul of” the Democratic party aren’t Democrats.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:40:47am
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makeitstop  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:41:31am

Speaking of Record Store Day - a graphic artist has curated a page of old record company logos. Lots of very old-school and regional label logos included.

How many do you recognize? There were a few that I’d never seen before.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:43:49am

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Oh shut up Kellyanne, no one buys that for a second especially after we saw how you tried to spin “He’s going to die anyhow” regarding McCain. Fuck you too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:44:04am
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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:44:06am

re: #190 Backwoods_Sleuth

But they’re not interns. //

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:44:12am

But technically she’s right, any WH Intern that would stand up to Trump would be fired.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:44:56am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:45:32am

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

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40 years from now, we’re going to these people doing well in Canada. Who knows, maybe one of them will become a minister in Canada’s government.- not sure if you have to be Canadian born to be PM.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:45:52am

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:46:48am

the turtle never disappoints…

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:46:58am

re: #197 HappyWarrior

40 years from now, we’re going to these people doing well in Canada. Who knows, maybe one of them will become a minister in Canada’s government.- not sure if you have to be Canadian born to be PM.

“See. Told you we shouldn’t have let them in. They’ve taken over Canada. It’s not even the same country anymore. Pretty soon, they’ll replace the Maple leave with an avocado.”

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lawhawk  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:49:23am

re: #199 Backwoods_Sleuth

McConnell, who destroyed comity and packed the judiciary with right wing extremists, is concerned that Democrats want to get rid of a federal agency that has repeatedly engaged in widespread abuses and that has repeatedly failed to do its job properly and within the law.

History of ICE has been replete with scandal. Yes, they are responsible for immigration and customs enforcement, not border control, but that doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t be reformed. BCP is border control.

Reform≠open borders.

GOPers - the Trump white supremacist base sees it as reform=open borders.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:49:34am

re: #199 Backwoods_Sleuth

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the turtle never disappoints…

You sir have people in your caucus who retweet Neo-Nazis and don’t apologize about it, you have an IRA apologist, your number 3 in the House wanted to be David Duke without the baggage. Oh and you have Donald Trump himself in the WH. Oh and look in the mirror buddy, you’re an obstructionist asshole who blocked an excellent judge from a judgeship because of bullshit you made up about how you can’t make SCOTUS appointments in an election year. Fuck off Mitch.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:49:46am

the one that has “border” in its name is kind of a clue…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:50:52am

re: #201 lawhawk

McConnell, who destroyed comity and packed the judiciary with right wing extremists, is concerned that Democrats want to get rid of a federal agency that has repeatedly engaged in widespread abuses and that has repeatedly failed to do its job properly and within the law.

History of ICE has been replete with scandal. Yes, they are responsible for border control and enforcement, but that doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t be reformed.

Reform≠open borders.

GOPers - the Trump white supremacist base sees it as reform=open borders.

TBH I’m not totally against open borders. I’d prefer to do it in a pragmatic and smart way but the way the right talks about “open borders” you’d think all hell breaks out in Europe.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:51:35am

ICE is actually pretty new too. It’s not that insane or radical to suggest getting rid of it.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:51:58am

re: #204 HappyWarrior

TBH I’m not totally against open borders. I’d prefer to do it in a pragmatic and smart way but the way the right talks about “open borders” you’d think all hell breaks out in Europe.

The opposite of “closed borders” is not “open borders” it’s “not closed borders.”

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b.d.  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:52:55am

Seniority really doesn’t mean squat when you are eternally the minority party.

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lawhawk  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:53:06am

re: #205 HappyWarrior

ICE is actually pretty new too. It’s not that insane or radical to suggest getting rid of it.

ICE, BCP, and DHS are all outgrowths of the reorganization after 9/11. ICE by itself is not a bad concept. Execution has been awful. So much of DHS has done amounts to security theater than actual security.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:53:30am

re: #206 Belafon

The opposite of “closed borders” is not “open borders” it’s “not closed borders.”

I know.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:54:25am

re: #207 b.d.

Seniority really doesn’t mean squat when you are eternally the minority party.

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Primaries are how Democracy works, sir. It’s how you and Crowley started in the first place. Who knows. 20 years from now, Alexandria may find herself in the same situation.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:54:44am

re: #208 lawhawk

ICE, BCP, and DHS are all outgrowths of the reorganization after 9/11. ICE by itself is not a bad concept. Execution has been awful. So much of DHS has done amounts to security theater than actual security.

Yeah I agree.

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b.d.  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:55:51am

re: #205 HappyWarrior

ICE is actually pretty new too. It’s not that insane or radical to suggest getting rid of it.

It’s not as insane as wanting to get rid of the Department of Energy, Department of Education and the Commerce Department.

But hey, that’s conservative!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:55:55am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 6:57:52am
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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:00:24am

re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth

harassed by violent crowed

What’s violent crowed?

If the crowd is violent, it wouldn’t be called harassment. It would be called assault.

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b.d.  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:01:12am

re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth

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LOL:

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and his wife

Are they referring to Trump cabinet member Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao?

That innocent wallflower?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:02:14am

re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Megyn, you sat there at your desk at FNC and grinned as Democratic legislators were actually threatened with 2nd amendment solutions for health care reform. Shut the fuck up. No one’s falling for your “I’m a decent person” bullshit.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:02:48am

re: #215 Belafon

What’s violent crowed?

If the crowd is violent, it wouldn’t be called harassment. It would be called assault.

Well if they show up with guns to a pro-gun control rally, they’re just exercising their rights but heaven forbid that people show anger towards corrupt public officials.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:03:23am

re: #216 b.d.

LOL:

Are they referring to Trump cabinet member Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao?

That innocent wallflower?

and Former Secretary of Labor. Man this is some dense bs.

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makeitstop  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:05:37am

re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth

Failed chat show host says what?

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MsJ  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:05:55am
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b.d.  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:05:56am

re: #219 HappyWarrior

and Former Secretary of Labor. Man this is some dense bs.

LOL, where are the angry reports of people harassing President Bill Clinton’s wife?

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:06:51am

re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth

Megyn, we’ll get back to what you’re talking about when we stop separating children from their families, losing them, and putting them up for adoption; blocking people from entering the country based on religion; and sidling up with dictators.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:07:20am

re: #220 makeitstop

Failed chat show host says what?

MAKE ME RELEEVANT AGAIN!

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MsJ  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:07:59am

re: #214 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:08:02am

re: #222 b.d.

LOL, where are the angry reports of people harassing President Bill Clinton’s wife?

The same alternate universe where Mitt Romney was told to knit and spend time with the grandkids.

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makeitstop  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:08:11am

re: #224 HappyWarrior

MAKE ME RELEEVANT AGAIN!

Yeah, pretty much.

Sorry, Megyn. It’s kinda hard to wash that Fox News stank off, ain’t it?

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lawhawk  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:08:34am

Fuck McConnell and the GOP that packed the Supreme Court with Gorsuch.

Yet another decision where Gorsuch tipped the scales.

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SteelPH  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:09:55am

re: #206 Belafon

The opposite of “closed borders” is not “open borders” it’s “not closed borders.”

These people only think in black and white extremes. And are under the belief that everyone else does too.

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Citizen K  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:09:56am

We’ll never be able to get back what’s been taken. This one single court will have killed us for at least 2 generations.

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MsJ  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:09:58am

re: #227 makeitstop

Yeah, pretty much.

Sorry, Megyn. It’s kinda hard to wash that Fox News stank off, ain’t it?

You cannot wash off what is inside every square cm of her body and soul (what there is of one).

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:10:37am

re: #228 lawhawk

Fuck McConnell and the GOP that packed the Supreme Court with Gorsuch.

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Yet another decision where Gorsuch tipped the scales.

Just what we needed, another Scalia clone for the next generation.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:11:17am

re: #230 Citizen K

But, oddly, travel bans don’t.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:12:17am

thehill.com

The Supreme Court is expected to end its term on Wednesday with one final major case challenging public sector union fees left to decide.

The most anticipated decision of the year came Tuesday, when the court in a 5-4 decision upheld Trump’s travel ban.

That’s led to some speculation that a retirement announcement could happen on Wednesday, though there is no hard evidence one is coming.

The speculation for the last year has centered on the court’s swing voter Justice Anthony Kennedy, but some have pondered if Justice Clarence Thomas is actually going to be the one to call it quits.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:13:29am

Well if it’s Thomas, I guess at least it would be a wash. I mean Kennedy can be maddening but he gets some things right. It’s hard for me to remember a Thomas opinion I’ve ever truly liked.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:13:34am

re: #225 MsJ

Does Megyn remember the townhall meetings in 2010 or the Tea Bag rallies outside congress when the ACA was being debated?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:14:06am

Of course, now we’re oging to hear Republican candidates say we need judges like Gorsuch the same way we used for Scalia. I say we need more like Sotomayor.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:14:52am

re: #225 MsJ

Thankfully the president will be sure to wade in with some consensus-building words and non-self-interested messaging to calm things.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:14:59am

re: #236 Sir John Barron

Does Megyn remember the townhall meetings in 2010 or the Tea Bag rallies outside congress when the ACA was being debated?

Sure he does. She and FNC were covering them as if they were the second coming of the American Revolution which btw was hardly a nice, civil affair where the colonists just asked King George to leave and he said “I don’t know guys, I’d rather you not.”

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makeitstop  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:15:54am

Geez, these guys…

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:16:23am

re: #225 MsJ

BREAKING: Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and his wife harassed by violent crowed, as Maxine Waters urges more protests
pic.twitter.com

— Wired Sources

Also not sure about this source…

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makeitstop  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:17:14am

re: #241 Sir John Barron

Also not sure about this source…

But dude, it’s a wired source!
/

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:17:25am

re: #240 makeitstop

Geez, these guys…

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If I can die without hearing the word “Cuck” again, I’ll die happy. It’s so stupidly used by people who don’t know what the fuck it means.

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SteelPH  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:17:28am

re: #230 Citizen K

So when do you suggest we begin the en masse suicides?
//if we’re going to be in full-on defeatist mode here.

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freetoken  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:18:12am

Public sector unions were always compromised a bit. By their very nature, being an employee of a government means a sort of tradeoff, compared to working for a private company.

Federal employee unions are not that influential. However, I can see that at the state and local level that unions play a more important role.

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makeitstop  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:18:51am

re: #243 HappyWarrior

If I can die without hearing the word “Cuck” again, I’ll die happy. It’s so stupidly used by people who don’t know what the fuck it means.

And appropriating a term from the real enemy is pretty telling.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:21:18am

re: #246 makeitstop

And appropriating a term from the real enemy is pretty telling.

Yeah and pretty pathetic since Crowley conceded graciously and offered his full support to her. I don’t begrudge her but the far left’s got a lot of douchebags especially of the white male variety unfortunately. I have a feeling those will turn on her the second she doesn’t act like a socialist first.

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SteelPH  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:22:40am

re: #246 makeitstop

And appropriating a term from the real enemy is pretty telling.

It smells of rodent copulation.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:24:23am

re: #247 HappyWarrior

Yeah and pretty pathetic since Crowley conceded graciously and offered his full support to her. I don’t begrudge her but the far left’s got a lot of douchebags especially of the white male variety unfortunately. I have a feeling those will turn on her the second she doesn’t act like a socialist first.

I get this odd feeling a lot of these people aren’t going to like her in a year. She may have run on Medicare for all, but she also went down to see one of the camps. She already knows what we’ve got to deal with is much larger than a few pet issues.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:25:59am

re: #249 Belafon

I get this odd feeling a lot of these people aren’t going to like her in a year. She may have run on Medicare for all, but she also went down to see one of the camps. She already knows what we’ve got to deal with is much larger than a few pet issues.

Right. And you know what, even though, I’ve been sharply critical of him, it does seem that Sanders is starting to slowly get that not everything revolves around class inequality.

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Citizen K  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:29:25am

re: #244 SteelPH

I mean…fuck. I know I’m being a depressive pessimist here. But I’m just struggling to see how we can make any headway when the courts seem so perfectly stacked to ensure the GOP’s eternal fucking conservatopia remains intact. We’ve seen how much slack the electorate is willing to give us to try and clean shit up, when they think that highly of us to begin with. And with all this shit rained down, it feels like the best we will be able to do is clean up maybe even half of the mess that this disaster has managed to lay on our plate in less than 18 months.

I’m seriously looking for reasons to back off of the edge here at this point.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:30:32am

re: #251 Citizen K

I mean…fuck. I know I’m being a depressive pessimist here. But I’m just struggling to see how we can make any headway when the courts seem so perfectly stacked to ensure the GOP’s eternal fucking conservatopia remains intact. We’ve seen how much slack the electorate is willing to give us to try and clean shit up, when they think that highly of us to begin with. And with all this shit rained down, it feels like the best we will be able to do is clean up maybe even half of the mess that this disaster has managed to lay on our plate in less than 18 months.

I’m seriously looking for reasons to back off of the edge here at this point.

I think the midterms will be very favorable to us. Control of the House will mean that we can fully investigate these bastards and the R’s can’t shut it down.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:31:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:32:42am

what a moron

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MsJ  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:32:49am

re: #252 HappyWarrior

I think the midterms will be very favorable to us. Control of the House will mean that we can fully investigate these bastards and the R’s can’t shut it down.

**IF** there isn’t continued Russian interference, which I expect there will be.

Many, many people are going to have to cast provisional ballots. Gerrymandering in TX and NC continue.

The cards are stacked against America continuing to be America.

I cannot believe that Republicans decided to go All In on Trump. It’s honestly mind-boggling.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:33:12am

nypost.com

A Crowley insider told Politico that the campaign of the 10-term incumbent — and would-be future speaker of the House — underestimated the electorate’s volatility.

“About two weeks ago, three weeks ago, we had our last poll which had Joe up by about 35 points. So the electorate’s really volatile,” the insider said.
“(The) Crowley campaign had a huge field program, but it’s still a district where Bernie [Sanders] got almost 45 percent of the vote. We took it seriously, I mean we spent $1.5 million on it. … It was a bloodletting of Washington Democrats.”

Some analysts said the furor over President Trump’s immigration policy energized voters in the heavily Hispanic 14th Congressional District to go with the newcomer, who won easily with 57 percent of the vote to Crowley’s 42 percent.

Last weekend, just days before the primary, Ocasio-Cortez left New York to join protests at an Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention center in Texas.

Ocasio-Cortez, a former organizer for Sanders’ 2016 presidential campaign, ran on a sharply liberal agenda, including abolishing ICE and making Medicare a universal program.

Crowley became just the third sitting member of Congress, and the first Democratic incumbent, to lose a primary this year — less than five months before the midterm elections.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:33:14am
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Citizen K  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:33:36am

re: #255 MsJ

**IF** there isn’t continued Russian interference, which I expect there will be.

Many, many people are going to have to cast provisional ballots. Gerrymandering in TX and NC continue.

The cards are stacked against America continuing to be America.

I cannot believe that Republicans decided to go All In on Trump. It’s honestly mind-boggling.

Not to mention the continued intent to ratfuck from the lefter-than-thou crowd, which may or may not be related to your point.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:33:44am

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Whamp Whamp.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:34:44am

re: #255 MsJ

**IF** there isn’t continued Russian interference, which I expect there will be.

Many, many people are going to have to cast provisional ballots. Gerrymandering in TX and NC continue.

The cards are stacked against America continuing to be America.

I cannot believe that Republicans decided to go All In on Trump. It’s honestly mind-boggling.

True, true. I’m just trying not to fall into despair. Yesterday was tough with the SCOTUS decision.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:36:00am

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

what a moron

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Pretty sure that’s not what the ruling said, dumbass. But then again, you have a child’s understanding of Civics.

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SteelPH  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:39:54am

re: #251 Citizen K

This is why you take mental health breaks. Continually dwelling on all the horrible things happening isn’t exactly healthy, especially at the rapid fire rate they keep coming(speaking from experience here). You need to make some time for yourself and indulge in things you love and enjoy, unconcerned with the world of politics for a period of time.
Then when you come back, you’ll be prepared to rejoin the fight.

Snark of my first response notwithstanding(whether or not it was warrented may vary), I say this because I care. I am concerned for your well being. You’re valuable here, and outside as well.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:40:47am

re: #249 Belafon

I get this odd feeling a lot of these people aren’t going to like her in a year. She may have run on Medicare for all, but she also went down to see one of the camps. She already knows what we’ve got to deal with is much larger than a few pet issues.

Medicare for all will be a key issue for her constituents because of the irreparable damage the GOP is doing to the ACA. It’s the only alternative if your goal is to provide coverage for all Americans, regardless of health.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:42:02am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:45:25am

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

@RedHenDC TL is tons of fun.

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Teukka  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:45:47am

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“When life hands you a lemon, make lemonade.”
Or something like that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:46:46am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:47:36am

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They’re good sports there. I just may consider trying them out if I can make it this weekend during the rally. Lexington is too far to give the other Red Hen my support but this one is close enough.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:47:58am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:48:46am

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

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See, this is why I can’t take talk from the networks about civility seriously. Not only did he say that about the girl with Downs, he also roughed up a reporter. If you want to be serious about civility, start calling it out with the Trump team and that incldues both Corey and Sanders.

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Teukka  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:50:20am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:51:52am

he looks nice…

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:52:14am

re: #268 HappyWarrior

They’re good sports there. I just may consider trying them out if I can make it this weekend during the rally. Lexington is too far to give the other Red Hen my support but this one is close enough.

I’m leaving for vacation end of the week and will drive through Lexington VA. Might not be able to stop at the Red Hen on the front side, but am making plans to stop there on the way back home.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:53:23am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

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he looks nice…

Was he at least civil as he threw the poop?

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:53:30am

re: #273 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

I’m leaving for vacation end of the week and will drive through Lexington VA. Might not be able to stop at the Red Hen on the front side, but am making plans to stop there on the way back home.

From what I read, there’s a waiting list weeks long.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:53:42am

re: #273 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

I’m leaving for vacation end of the week and will drive through Lexington VA. Might not be able to stop at the Red Hen on the front side, but am making plans to stop there on the way back home.

Good deal.

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lawhawk  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:54:33am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:54:37am

re: #256 Shropshire Slasher

nypost.com

Crowley may indeed be up by 35% among his constituents but that doesn’t matter if they don’t get out and vote. Primaries in off year elections usually have very low turnout and the unexpected can happen. It is fortunate that Ocasio is a poised woman with a message that resonates with her community. This is a warning that every vote counts and we must get out our base in order to win.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:55:41am

I guess what pisses me off is the naked hypocrisy of the whole thing. I wouldn’t have denied her but oyu know what, she was on her father’s staff when he tried to make Kim Davis a free speech hero when she as a public official no less tried to deny people marriage licenses. Her party made the man who denied Biden into a folk hero. Personally, in hindsight, I wish they hadn’t denied her and her group service but then again, they’re always looking for a martyr complex anyhow.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:55:58am
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lawhawk  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:56:06am

re: #278 Hecuba’s daughter

Primaries are notorious to poll and forecast because they’re low turnout generally. Even the slightest change in turnout can have a significant change in results.

She tapped into the changed demographics of his district and he failed to do so.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:56:27am

re: #277 lawhawk

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That’s a much lighter statement than his pissy statement at Maxine Waters. Fact is King just says what a lot of the members of the GOP caucus are too timid to actually say.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:56:54am

re: #268 HappyWarrior

They’re good sports there. I just may consider trying them out if I can make it this weekend during the rally. Lexington is too far to give the other Red Hen my support but this one is close enough.

Aren’t they closed down, though, with all the “very civil” protests going on there by Drumpbots?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:57:05am

re: #280 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah Mike, that’s why people got lynched for speaking German in WWI. And we were pretty welcoming until you and your asshole boss came along.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:57:27am

re: #275 Belafon

From what I read, there’s a waiting list weeks long.

Wow, that is good for them.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:57:52am

re: #283 Sir John Barron

Aren’t they closed down, though, with all the “very civil” protests going on there by Drumpbots?

I’m not sure. The D.C. one though I dunno. I may look for something unique on Saturday but I have no idea who’s going with me.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:58:29am

re: #274 HappyWarrior

Was he at least civil as he threw the poop?

Libtards are so sensitive, what’s wrong with throwing poop?

//

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SteelPH  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:58:57am

re: #287 Sir John Barron

Libtards are so sensitive, what’s wrong with throwing poop?

//

A comprehensive list would take too long.
//

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ObserverArt  Jun 27, 2018 • 7:59:22am

Morning!

I feel like a groundhog popping out of my burrow to see what’s up. Not liking the lay of the land this morning. Ugh.

I think it has something to do with reading some of the late/overnight comments and the media so far today.

November is going to be nuclear. I don’t remember primaries ever being this contentious.

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MsJ  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:01:27am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:01:35am

re: #289 ObserverArt

Morning!

I feel like a groundhog popping out of my burrow to see what’s up. Not liking the lay of the land this morning. Ugh.

I think it has something to do with reading some of the late/overnight comments and the media so far today.

November is going to be nuclear. I don’t remember primaries ever being this contentious.

I think what you saw in NY-14 was a young woman who ran a very savvy campaign and a Congressman who may have had his eyes too far in the future. I’m excited to see what she offers. She offers a perspective that isn’t heard in Congress.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:02:34am

re: #290 MsJ

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I like her. We need people like this. I don’t doubt for a second that Crowley was a good Congressman or concerned about these issues but someone tenacious like this will be a welcome addition to the caucus.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:03:03am

re: #287 Sir John Barron

Libtards are so sensitive, what’s wrong with throwing poop?

//

Ronald Reagan and Tip O’Neill both drank poop together! // Matthews.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:03:39am

re: #256 Shropshire Slasher

nypost.com

I get the sense these smaller, district polls are much less reliable than the larger, state or nationwide ones.

Some interesting races here in Maryland, I think the Baltimore Sun’s endorsements might have had an impact. The Baltimore County Executive candidate they endorsed in the Dem primary was quite a ways behind according to polls a few weeks ago but rallied to take a small lead; I’m not sure that race is decided yet.

The Sun also endorsed the candidate I voted for in my county council race and she won quite handily against several quality opponents. Of course it helps that she worked super hard making contacts, going door to door, getting her name out through signs and so on.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:04:52am

re: #294 Sir John Barron

I get the sense these smaller, district polls are much less reliable than the larger, state or nationwide ones.

Some interesting races here in Maryland, I think the Baltimore Sun’s endorsements might have had an impact. The Baltimore County Executive candidate they endorsed in the Dem primary was quite a ways behind according to polls a few weeks ago but rallied to take a small lead; I’m not sure that race is decided yet.

The Sun also endorsed the candidate I voted for in my county council race and she won quite handily against several quality opponents. Of course it helps that she worked super hard making contacts, going door to door, getting her name out through signs and so on.

I left before but did Jealous win the Dem primary for governor?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:05:11am

re: #292 HappyWarrior

I like her. We need people like this. I don’t doubt for a second that Crowley was a good Congressman or concerned about these issues but someone tenacious like this will be a welcome addition to the caucus.

Yeah my sense of Crowley was pretty positive, a little sorry to see him go down, but this person deserves a chance to have an impact. Or rather her constituents have a right for a different voice and approach to government.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:05:19am

LOL, Laura…take a seat

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:05:53am

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, Laura…take a seat

Such a delicate flower these wingnuts, very against frivolous lawsuits I hear.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:06:37am

Primaries are tough to forecast. Much smaller populations so turnout matters. The candidate I worked for lost the primary but we did well in the parts of the district I helped out in. That’s not to dismiss Jennifer Wexton’s win. Just a statement of facts and knowing that, when I talked to her campaign manager on Monday, I offered to help in my part of the district which unfortunately is more conservative.

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ObserverArt  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:06:57am

re: #295 HappyWarrior

I left before but did Jealous win the Dem primary for governor?

He did win.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:07:12am

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, Laura…take a seat

“Hi, I have no life, aside from the one I lead on this Twitter thing, which totally hates conservatives like me, but anyway I went to assault, I mean, confront this terrible congresswoman and she didn’t tried to walk away from me! I won’t be ignored!”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:07:36am

re: #296 Sir John Barron

Yeah my sense of Crowley was pretty positive, a little sorry to see him go down, but this person deserves a chance to have an impact. Or rather her constituents have a right for a different voice and approach to government.

Exactly. Didn’t get what BrianJ’s deal was last night. She shouldn’t be tarnished simply because she was a supporter of Sanders and is an unabashed Dem socialist. She has a chance to do a lot of good and I for one am rooting for her.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:08:07am

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, Laura…take a seat

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Too many idiots are cheering her on. People get positive feedback from Conservatives by acting like lunatics, or in Laura’s case, being an actual lunatic.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:08:17am

re: #300 ObserverArt

He did win.

Alright, thanks. That’s not a bad thing. I think Hogan will be favored since he’s not wacko but Jealous may do better than anticipated due to Anti-Republican attitudes in a very Democratic state.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:08:23am

re: #295 HappyWarrior

Already answered, but yes.

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CongoJack  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:08:27am

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, Laura…take a seat

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re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, Laura…take a seat

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Huh… looks a little like Elvira.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:09:15am

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, Laura…take a seat

“swatted me in the face twice w/ her papers”

What was that about? Did it actually occur, and what was the context?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:09:15am

re: #301 Sir John Barron

“Hi, I have no life, aside from the one I lead on this Twitter thing, which totally hates conservatives like me, but anyway I went to assault, I mean, confront this terrible congresswoman and she didn’t tried to walk away from me! I won’t be ignored!”

Or her sister in stupidity- Tomi Lahren

“Hi, I’m Tomi. I spend all day bashing immigrants and looking down on liberals while I live at my parents house.”

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:10:40am

re: #304 HappyWarrior

Alright, thanks. That’s not a bad thing. I think Hogan will be favored since he’s not wacko but Jealous may do better than anticipated due to Anti-Republican attitudes in a very Democratic state.

I’m a little surprised he did so well, but one of his potentially toughest competitors died suddenly last month, and the one remaining competitor was a county executive with some baggage, at least some friends of mine from his county didn’t like his control or lack thereof of the schools. Jealous benefited in a sense from a lack of record to criticize.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:11:11am

You find out who the decent people in your life are after these decisions. My oldest second cousin- her grandmother and my grandfather were siblings and we’re quite far apart in age are on the same exact page about what’s going on. One of the cousins on my mom’s side that I’m traveling with has pretty much said but more elegantly how I feel about SHS and the right’s hypocrisy on civility.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:11:58am

re: #309 Sir John Barron

I’m a little surprised he did so well, but one of his potentially toughest competitors died suddenly last month, and the one remaining competitor was a county executive with some baggage, at least some friends of mine from his county didn’t like his control or lack thereof of the schools. Jealous benefited in a sense from a lack of record to criticize.

Yeah I heard about the guy who died. Forgetting his name. That was really sad. I hope Jealous does well. It’s his nomination. Hopefully he wins.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:12:09am

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, Laura…take a seat

Today in self-owning….

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:15:11am

All’s good here though. Our Republican incumbent is behind 10 points in a new poll. Her opponent nearly made 50%. But it’s of course still early and one should never underestiamte Comstock here in VA-10. Kaine is killing Stewart in the Battle for 1865 errr 2018 Virginia. I don’t have that much worries about that one. It’s a different situation and candidate from when Warner nearly lost to Gillespie. And I think Warner’s near defeat in 2014 will make Kaine smart and not ignore Stewart.

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ObserverArt  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:15:22am

What the hell is “Big League Politics?”

Many of those Loomer links go there.

Is this part of Chucky Johnson’s ‘net crap? Maybe a team up of several wingnuts like O’Keefe and Cernovich?

I can guess where the name came from.

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MsJ  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:16:11am

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, Laura…take a seat

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SteelPH  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:18:24am

re: #290 MsJ

But but, that’s just a distraction from Medicare-for-all and the economy!
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:19:09am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:20:37am

re: #317 Backwoods_Sleuth

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lawhawk  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:21:05am

re: #317 Backwoods_Sleuth

Once again, a foreign nation announces what Trump will be doing before Trumpworld comments.

They’re leading Trump around by the nose, and Trump thinks this is all good.

At same time, the GOP completely ignores that Russia is not only using Trump to further Russia’s foreign policy, but they’re completely ignoring that Trump wont stop Russia’s efforts to manipulate outcome of elections in the US or our allies.

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SteelPH  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:21:54am

re: #319 lawhawk

Once again, a foreign nation announces what Trump will be doing before Trumpworld comments.

They’re leading Trump around by the nose, and Trump thinks this is all good.

At same time, the GOP completely ignores that Russia is not only using Trump to further Russia’s foreign policy, but they’re completely ignoring that Trump wont stop Russia’s efforts to manipulate outcome of elections in the US or our allies.

They appear to be completely fine with it.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:21:54am

re: #315 MsJ

BREAKING: Today I filed a police report w/ @CapitolPolice against @RepMaxineWaters.

Yesterday when I confronted her on Capitol Hill, she ASSAULTED me. She hit my hand, then she swatted me in the face twice w/ her papers. I’m pressing charges against her. bigleaguepolitics.com

— Laura Loomer

that’s precious — BREAKING —

SHE SWATTED ME IN THE FACE!!! TWICE!!! WITH HER PAPERS!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:22:52am

re: #319 lawhawk

Once again, a foreign nation announces what Trump will be doing before Trumpworld comments.

They’re leading Trump around by the nose, and Trump thinks this is all good.

At same time, the GOP completely ignores that Russia is not only using Trump to further Russia’s foreign policy, but they’re completely ignoring that Trump wont stop Russia’s efforts to manipulate outcome of elections in the US or our allies.

I don’t think they’re ignoring it. They’re embracing it because it benefits them. In a sane world, the American right would realize that Merkel rather than the EUrofascists who oppose her is their counterpart but the elected American right has gone full fascist.

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SteelPH  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:23:52am

re: #315 MsJ

Probably just told Loomer to buzz off. Which counts as violent assault, right?
/

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:24:10am

re: #319 lawhawk

Once again, a foreign nation announces what Trump will be doing before Trumpworld comments.

They’re leading Trump around by the nose, and Trump thinks this is all good.

At same time, the GOP completely ignores that Russia is not only using Trump to further Russia’s foreign policy, but they’re completely ignoring that Trump wont stop Russia’s efforts to manipulate outcome of elections in the US or our allies.

The GOP is totally on board with Putin’s interference in our elections, as long as it helps them retain power. And they also aren’t troubled by Russia’s foreign policy.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:24:35am

re: #324 Hecuba’s daughter

The GOP is totally on board with Putin’s interference in our elections, as long as it helps them retain power. And they also aren’t troubled by Russia’s foreign policy.

or his domestic policy. They love his his theocratic nationalism.

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SteelPH  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:25:23am

re: #325 HappyWarrior

or his domestic policy. They love his his theocratic nationalism.

No doubt brainstorming ways in order to bring it here.

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b.d.  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:26:12am

re: #315 MsJ

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Nothing shows your respect for law enforcement more than filing frivolous complaints.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:27:10am

re: #321 Sir John Barron

that’s precious — BREAKING —

SHE SWATTED ME IN THE FACE!!! TWICE!!! WITH HER PAPERS!!!!

Is there actual video of this?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:27:13am

re: #326 SteelPH

No doubt brainstorming ways in order to bring it here.

Oh yes, they dream of that. As Wendell has said, it’s just Russian Orthodox flavored rather than Evangelical.

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SteelPH  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:27:35am

re: #328 The Vicious Babushka

Is there actual video of this?

If I had to guess, probably not.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:28:55am

re: #330 SteelPH

If I had to guess, probably not.

And if there is, it will surely be completely unedited.////

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:29:02am

re: #328 The Vicious Babushka

Is there actual video of this?

video is at the link in her tweet.
I didn’t bother clicking on it, though

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:29:44am

Were there any lectures when Laura’s pal O’Keefe tried to wiretap a Senator’s office?

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plansbandc  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:30:09am

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s a bad idea to get on the internet’s bad side. There’s no where to run to, no where to hide.

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Lupin  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:33:43am

Is there any awareness in the US that Trump sold out your country to North Korea, in effect giving them the green light to pursue their nuclear ambitions as long as they don’t make too many waves & give good PR to Trump?

He is not as much an idiot as he is a traitor.

Anyway, this is certainly the take here.

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MsJ  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:33:45am

re: #328 The Vicious Babushka

Is there actual video of this?

I am sure Project Veritas is working on that right now.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:35:12am

I suspect Laura Loomer’s accusation of assault will go the way Michael Tracey’s accusation against Rep. Waters went…

complex.com

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MsJ  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:36:02am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

video is at the link in her tweet.
I didn’t bother clicking on it, though

The video is of her yapping. I don’t know what she said because I muted it, but there is no video of Waters at all…she is not in the video, not even in a photo.

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SteelPH  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:38:43am

re: #338 MsJ

The video is of her yapping. I don’t know what she said because I muted it, but there is no video of Waters at all…she is not in the video, not even in a photo.

I can’t believe Maxine Waters dropped an anvil on Laura Loomer’s head.
//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:38:47am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:38:55am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

video is at the link in her tweet.
I didn’t bother clicking on it, though

I’m not clicking on that shit.

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danarchy  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:39:32am

re: #338 MsJ

The video is of her yapping. I don’t know what she said because I muted it, but there is no video of Waters at all…she is not in the video, not even in a photo.

The video of the actual confrontation with Waters is at a different link and is as you might suspect a big old load of nothing.

bigleaguepolitics.com

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MsJ  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:39:35am

re: #341 The Vicious Babushka

I’m not clicking on that shit.

I took the bullet for you.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:41:11am

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She gets it. She’s more lefty than I am but that’s okay. What makes the party great is there’s room for a lot of people in it.

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nines09  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:45:59am

Just another day on planet earth. Keep walking and working towards the light and good. It never ends. Never. Nothing new but the names, nothing changes but the dates.
Leonard Cohen wrote this, but Concrete Blonde singer Johnette Napolitano had the voice to kick it up. Underrated band IMHO. Vastly underrated.

Everybody Knows

Concrete Blonde - God Is A Bullet

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:46:45am

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Love her!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:47:02am

Steve can also take a seat.

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makeitstop  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:47:36am

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, Laura…take a seat

I forget where I saw it, but the other day I saw the coolest play on words for these drama queens…

JimCrowflakes!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:47:42am

re: #342 danarchy

The video of the actual confrontation with Waters is at a different link and is as you might suspect a big old load of nothing.

bigleaguepolitics.com

Can’t a person be charged for wasting the cops time?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:48:20am

so full of shit…

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MsJ  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:48:25am

re: #345 nines09

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b.d.  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:48:34am

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Steve can also take a seat.

Steve quit the GOP so now he’s ready for the Dems to adopt all of his beliefs.

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Lupin  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:48:37am

Did I understand Jake Tapper well, that Americans would rather live like Russians than Europeans?

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MsJ  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:49:31am

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Steve can also take a seat.

Why I cannot and will not “forgive and forget” because they are the same inside. If it wasn’t for trump (which, granted, is republicanism in the extreme), he - and they - would be all rah rah team gop.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:49:50am

re: #315 MsJ

Interesting that Loomer hasn’t found time to confront Rep Steven King for his Neo Nazi comments and tweets. Sure, just attack the Black Roman though.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:49:50am

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

so full of shit…

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Wait…is he implying H-Ds competitors DON’T have to pay the tariffs?

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ObserverArt  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:49:56am

re: #328 The Vicious Babushka

Is there actual video of this?

Of course…there has to be video to get the proper rage on.

BRUTAL CATFIGHT: Maxine Waters SLAPS LAURA LOOMER with paper… While Security Guards ASSAULT HER!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:50:39am

re: #356 Eclectic Cyborg

Wait…is he implying H-Ds competitors DON’T have to pay the tariffs?

He has no clue how any of this works

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makeitstop  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:50:52am

re: #315 MsJ

Isn’t Laura the one with the blown tire that wasn’t a blown tire?

And wasn’t she a blonde a minute ago?

Is she looking to snag that crucial Conservative Goth demo?
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:50:52am

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Steve can also take a seat.

WTH?

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Winston_Smith  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:51:14am

re: #199 Backwoods_Sleuth

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the turtle never disappoints…

Hey, let’s ask the guy who stole the Supreme Court seat on to trash the Democrats. Then let’s get Bernie Sanders on to trash the Democrats because they’re totally out of touch. Then let’s get a bunch of Trump surrogates on for balance. That takes care of today’s programming.

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CongoJack  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:51:26am

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

so full of shit…

[Embedded content]

Like how to says that He, himself, has “done so much” for them. Would this not constitute the government picking favorites. I thought that was a bad thing in the Obama era.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:51:41am

re: #357 ObserverArt

Of course…there has to be video to get the proper rage on.

[Embedded content]

And of course the thumbnail puts the red devil eyes on Waters.

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nines09  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:52:03am

re: #351 MsJ

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plansbandc  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:53:20am

The champs are going out! Germany is bye bye.

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Zip Diske  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:53:25am

We should never forget the true, monstrous brutality that Maxine Waters is capable of.

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makeitstop  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:54:34am

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Such poise. I like her.

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SteelPH  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:55:14am

re: #366 scottslemmons

It’ll take ages for Loomer to recover from having her beak blown backwards by Waters.
//

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nines09  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:55:55am

re: #351 MsJ

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Dr. Matt  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:56:37am

Just a reminder, the left should be more civil….

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ObserverArt  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:56:53am

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Steve can also take a seat.

Steve Schmidt is troubled these days.

In some ways I understand what he is saying.

He was on the Today Show this morning too. What he said that does need some consideration.

He is saying that America is being torn up by the radicals on both ends and the people in the middle, the majority of America, are growing frustrated by all of the fringe and some are just giving up in all the noise.

For a demonstration of what he is saying all one needs do is read the late night and overnight comments here.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:57:54am

re: #367 makeitstop

Such poise. I like her.

she absolutely refused to trash the Democratic party, no matter how hard the reporter tried.

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plansbandc  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:58:18am

re: #370 Dr. Matt

I find it remarkable that they really believe they have all the guns.

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LastYearsMan  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:58:46am

Korea beats Germany! Vengeance for 2002!

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CongoJack  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:59:13am

re: #370 Dr. Matt

Just a reminder, the left should be more civil….

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Sooo… that should be reported right? @jack will get on that right (and I don’t do the twitters)? That seems like a blatant threat.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:59:18am

re: #373 plansbandc

I find it remarkable that they really believe they have all the guns.

They live in a bubble that includes 24/7 fox “news”, limbaugh, and Breitbart.

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nines09  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:59:36am

re: #365 plansbandc

The champs are going out! Germany is bye bye.

That’s a “Wow” moment.

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dangerman  Jun 27, 2018 • 8:59:39am

re: #229 SteelPH

These people only think in black and white extremes. And are under the belief that everyone else does too.

imma disagree and say no they arent under that belief

they are just painting the other side (ie us) with whatever extreme words they think will get them what they want

and that’s why they change their rhetoric - reverse course or whatever - as often as they like. they found “hypocrite” doesnt stick to them

it doesnt matter

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Winston_Smith  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:00:06am

re: #350 Backwoods_Sleuth

so full of shit…

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So what is it he did for H-D? I forget.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:00:08am

re: #365 plansbandc

The champs are going out! Germany is bye bye.

Nice. I like Germany as both a team and country but underdogs are gerat.

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MsJ  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:00:13am

re: #364 nines09

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:00:14am

re: #340 Backwoods_Sleuth

We’re about to find out how zero-sum some people’s politics are. I’m already liking her. Is someone going to like her less?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:00:19am

re: #371 ObserverArt

Steve Schmidt is troubled these days.

In some ways I understand what he is saying.

He was on the Today Show this morning too. What he said that does need some consideration.

He is saying that America is being torn up by the radicals on both ends and the people in the middle, the majority of America, are growing frustrated by all of the fringe and some are just giving up in all the noise.

For a demonstration of what he is saying all one needs do is read the late night and overnight comments here.

ONE person here last night was being a jackass. Just one (and it was totally not a surprise).
Not much of a demonstration of Steve’s argument.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:00:23am

re: #370 Dr. Matt

Just a reminder, the left should be more civil….

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Because Google is never wrong. Jesus.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:00:24am

re: #375 CongoJack

Sooo… that should be reported right? @jack will get on that right (and I don’t do the twitters)? That seems like a blatant threat.

I wished the Nazis would get ball cancer, and my account if banned. This asshole is making flatout terrorist threats.

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Feline Fearless Leader  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:00:25am

re: #176 Colère Tueur de Lapin

ZOMG. That is one seriously obese chipmunk. Kinda like the squirrels in my yard.

Living at 5000’. So it doesn’t have a lot of time to put on weight for the winter.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:01:11am

re: #349 Eclectic Cyborg

Can’t a person be charged for wasting the cops time?

Filing a false police report is a crime.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:01:13am

re: #370 Dr. Matt

Just a reminder, the left should be more civil….

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You actually don’t have all the guns but keep on telling yourselves that if it makes you feel safe.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:01:13am

re: #379 Winston_Smith

So what is it he did for H-D? I forget.

let them park their motorcycles in front of the WH for a photo op

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:02:54am

re: #372 Backwoods_Sleuth

she absolutely refused to trash the Democratic party, no matter how hard the reporter tried.

I really like what I know about her. Let the GOP try to make shit out of the fact she calls herself a socialist. They’ve got much more fucked up problems than that.

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ObserverArt  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:03:19am

Here are Schmidt’s Today Show comments.

I know they are going to get ripped apart, but listen to him, he does have a point. Unpopular and from his Republican position but there is a kernel there that needs to be heard.

Iframe

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:03:21am
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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:03:36am

re: #370 Dr. Matt

Just a reminder, the left should be more civil….

The whole point of the right hoarding guns is to make sure those they oppose, especially blacks, would fear them enough to maintain the proper social structure. They’re still counting on our side being civil.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:04:37am

Mild, but it helps

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:04:50am

re: #373 plansbandc

I find it remarkable that they really believe they have all the guns.

The secret is when they talk about being ready for war they’re really talking about being ready for terrorism against unarmed individuals with a different ideology.

Look at the narratives and fantasies, and what stands out is that they view everyone that isn’t like them as combatants. When they say “fight the government” they don’t mean the actual government, they mean anybody that fits into their framework of unworthiness (which is mostly about their aesthetics…what they find gratifying and what they find distasteful, complete with conditionals that would be hypocrisy if applied to morality, because the context that justifies action is affiliation, not extenuating circumstance).

It works exactly like the concept of “elite.” The word doesn’t mean anything, on purpose.

eta: I’m headachy and forgot to circle back ‘round to the point:

Basically, their fantasy involves soft targets because it’s all about total power. “We have all the guns” isn’t about describing reality any more than any other part.

But it’s also a representation of how they view threat and use of force…basically, they’re telling a story in which any violence they do is self-defense. It’s a cover story.

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nines09  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:05:45am

re: #381 MsJ

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MsJ  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:06:05am

re: #369 nines09

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:06:33am

re: #392 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:06:38am

re: #391 ObserverArt

My parents are Democratic voters who just don’t like the protests because they just make people too uncomfortable. I think Trevor Noah’s piece about civility covers it.

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MsJ  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:07:25am

re: #370 Dr. Matt

Just a reminder, the left should be more civil….

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Reported.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:07:41am

re: #294 Sir John Barron

She showed how Democrats did it in 2006.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:08:02am

re: #370 Dr. Matt

Just a reminder, the left should be more civil….

We have all the gunz and we know the Google!!!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:08:58am
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ObserverArt  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:09:47am

re: #383 Backwoods_Sleuth

ONE person here last night was being a jackass. Just one (and it was totally not a surprise).
Not much of a demonstration of Steve’s argument.

I’m taking in consideration the comments that came from Brian J’s over-the-top usual take. The kickback to his comment is as important as to what he was trying to get out.

I just posted the Schmidt video from Today. What he is saying is in some ways what Brian J was saying.

That is the point I am trying to make.

And what is Schmidt saying: we are going to get another Trump election.

Is that not what Brian J was trying say in his usual crazy way?

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:10:40am

re: #403 The Vicious Babushka

I will not tolerate kids being separated from their parents.

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dangerman  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:11:13am

re: #291 HappyWarrior

I think what you saw in NY-14 was a young woman who ran a very savvy campaign and a Congressman who may have had his eyes too far in the future. I’m excited to see what she offers. She offers a perspective that isn’t heard in Congress.

when are these people going to get it?

no one has a right to anything in politics

you dont have a right to keep your seat because of longevity or experience or any other reason

and sure, every one else can ask or suggest that a person step aside for…the good of the party, young blood, too old or whatever. that’s they lazy way - the i want something for nothing way. i want it (wah wah) my way and dont wanna work for it

if you want to oust the out of touch oldsters, run against them and win
at least join your local party, get on the local boards, be a precinct captain, - become the power

if you dont run or participate, i dont want to hear from you
if you run and lose, more people wanted the other person

this is democracy in action
support it, get in it, or shut the hell up

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:11:18am

re: #403 The Vicious Babushka

Now apologize to DJT and SHS and all of us or we’ll burn this crappy place to the ground!

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MsJ  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:12:58am
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ObserverArt  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:14:23am

re: #399 Belafon

My parents are Democratic voters who just don’t like the protests because they just make people too uncomfortable. I think Trevor Noah’s piece about civility covers it.

I understand what you are saying. I think it is a point that is getting lost in some of the ways people are saying it. I don’t think I am being very successful with my attempts.

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MsJ  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:14:42am

HA!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:14:51am

re: #404 ObserverArt

I’m taking in consideration the comments that came from Brian J’s over-the-top usual take. The kickback to his comment is as important as to what he was trying to get out.

I just posted the Schmidt video from Today. What he is saying is in some ways what Brian J was saying.

That is the point I am trying to make.

And what is Schmidt saying: we are going to get another Trump election.

Is that not what Brian J was trying say in his usual crazy way?

Brian made a kneejerk assumption and completely dismissed her (and insulted every woman and millennial here at LGF in the process) solely based on the fact that she is a Bernie supporter. He made no recognition of her candidacy beyond that, and it really sounded like he had no idea who she was…being a Bernie supporter was enough for him to unload on her.

Far as I’m concerned, Brian can take a seat right next to Steve.

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dangerman  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:15:37am

re: #323 SteelPH

Probably just told Loomer to buzz off. Which counts as violent assault, right?
/

while i dont believe this story for a second,

people get aggravated when they are dismissed (or worse lied to) - especially to their face

hence, some of the incivility

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MsJ  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:15:47am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:15:58am

re: #408 MsJ

NEW: Inside Facebook and Twitter’s secret meetings with Trump aides and conservative leaders who say tech is biased. Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey met with WH, others and pledged changes to come. Tip @Techmeme washingtonpost.com

— Tony Romm

This is like when top radio company executives and broadcasters met with Clinton aides and other liberals in the 90’s and promised to be more balanced and to offer more liberal broadcasters an opportunity.

Oh wait that didn’t happen.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:18:22am

re: #413 MsJ

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Funny how the people who hate the media love the merging of state power with the media.

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MsJ  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:18:39am

re: #411 Backwoods_Sleuth

Brian made a kneejerk assumption and completely dismissed her (and insulted every woman and millennial here at LGF in the process) solely based on the fact that she is a Bernie supporter. He made no recognition of her candidacy beyond that, and it really sounded like he had no idea who she was…being a Bernie supporter was enough for him to unload on her.

Far as I’m concerned, Brian can take a seat right next to Steve.

In an incredibly condescending, sexist way, no less.

I understand what he was saying, but he couldn’t have said it worse if he tried…short of saying this stupid bitch should never have run and women do not have a place anywhere except a beauty pageant because women cannot think above platitudes when asked anything ever.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:18:58am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:19:43am

re: #408 MsJ

Well the government does own the Internet which hosts Twitter and Twitter is a non-profit entity receiving government aid.

Oh no wait it’s not.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:20:40am

re: #411 Backwoods_Sleuth

Brian made a kneejerk assumption and completely dismissed her (and insulted every woman and millennial here at LGF in the process) solely based on the fact that she is a Bernie supporter. He made no recognition of her candidacy beyond that, and it really sounded like he had no idea who she was…being a Bernie supporter was enough for him to unload on her.

Far as I’m concerned, Brian can take a seat right next to Steve.

That’s how I saw it too. I’ve made no secret about my dislike of Bernie but I refuse to discount someone simply because they supported Bernie. Alexandria is much more than that and Brian insulted her in an uninformed way that insulted many here as well as her future constituents.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:21:17am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:21:18am

re: #417 Dr. Matt

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I’m trying to feel bad but nope.

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dangerman  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:21:31am

re: #379 Winston_Smith

So what is it he did for H-D? I forget.

let em line up the bikes for a photo op with him at the WH

i wonder if he signed it?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:22:50am

re: #416 MsJ

In an incredibly condescending, sexist way, no less.

I understand what he was saying, but he couldn’t have said it worse if he tried…short of saying this stupid bitch should never have run and women do not have a place anywhere except a beauty pageant because women cannot think above platitudes when asked anything ever.

Brian’s problem is he’s the opposite side of the coin from the Bernie Busters. He wants to see everyone who supported Bernie as an enemy.

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dangerman  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:23:05am

re: #385 Dr. Matt

I wished the Nazis would get ball cancer, and my account if banned. This asshole is making flatout terrorist threats.

but gunz are first and 2nd amendemnt issues

while wishing cancer is so…uncivil

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:23:12am

re: #413 MsJ

SCOOP: Another one of our flackies is going to the WH!

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dangerman  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:23:45am

re: #389 Backwoods_Sleuth

let them park their motorcycles in front of the WH for a photo op

beat me by that much

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Dr. Matt  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:24:46am

Posted without commentary.

But, LMAO.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:24:49am
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Renaissance_Man  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:26:25am

re: #423 HappyWarrior

Brian’s problem is he’s the opposite side of the coin from the Bernie Busters. He wants to see everyone who supported Bernie as an enemy.

Brian feels vengeful towards the Berniebros and Trumpers that have put the world in this situation with their hypocrisy and outright evil. It’s an understandable sentiment, though he takes it too far. I feel it too sometimes.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:26:30am

And lemme add it’s a shame too because I do like what he brings to primary night but I refuse to use ome’s stance in 2016 for vendettas. I probably would have voted Crowley had I lived in NY-14 but I think Alexandria has a lot going for her and I love how stupid Trump thinks Crowley lost because he wasn’t nice to him.

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freetoken  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:27:15am

re: #413 MsJ

I wonder if Bill Shine is at all connected to Shine TV (which has gone under various names), a company founded by Elisabeth Murdoch.

None of the Wikipedia entries are enlightening about this.

Bill Shine is of course associated with Fox News, but it strikes me as uncanny that Elisabeth Murdoch’s company used the same name.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:27:17am

Newt is only finding out just now that there’s a Democratic-Socialist party?
smh

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ObserverArt  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:28:39am

re: #411 Backwoods_Sleuth

Brian made a kneejerk assumption and completely dismissed her (and insulted every woman and millennial here at LGF in the process) solely based on the fact that she is a Bernie supporter. He made no recognition of her candidacy beyond that, and it really sounded like he had no idea who she was…being a Bernie supporter was enough for him to unload on her.

Far as I’m concerned, Brian can take a seat right next to Steve.

I don’t agree with Brian J. I do think he was on to one little thing that is important. Everything else was BS.

One last attempt to explain. If there is a war between centrist Democrats and Berners again it may well cost us another election and give us Trump one more time.

What do you think is going through the mind of Tom Perez this morning when he looks at the New York results? Do you think he is concerned about Bernie in any way?

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:28:42am

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

Newt is only finding out just now that there’s a Democratic-Socialist party?
smh

Unlike the moderate GOP which never primaries its incumbents.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:28:49am

re: #429 Renaissance_Man

Brian feels vengeful towards the Berniebros and Trumpers that have put the world in this situation with their hypocrisy and outright evil. It’s an understandable sentiment, though he takes it too far. I feel it too sometimes.

But he mistakes Sanders support for being a Sanders bro. Not all are the same. I understand the frustration too but when he’s attacking people who are now our nominees, he’s acting the same way the Bros do.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:29:39am

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Newt is only finding out just now that there’s a Democratic-Socialist party?
smh

You share a party with Steve King, Newt.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:30:17am

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

Newt is only finding out just now that there’s a Democratic-Socialist party?
smh

I don’t remember Newt being this panicked when his party promised to deprive 20 million people of newly gained healthcare protections.

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plansbandc  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:30:59am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:31:02am

re: #429 Renaissance_Man

Brian feels vengeful towards the Berniebros and Trumpers that have put the world in this situation with their hypocrisy and outright evil. It’s an understandable sentiment, though he takes it too far. I feel it too sometimes.

Except that I seem to remember Brian’s previous posts in which he ranted against Hillary and the DNC for being unkind to Berners (based on the bullshit Wikileaks DNC hack). I think he is just a troll who likes to stir shit up.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:31:15am

I’m glad a 29 year old Hispanic woman has the GOP and concern trolls scared. And besides Newt, I thought we were already Marxists anyhow. Alexandria unlike your party actually understands people.

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Archangelus  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:31:49am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:31:51am

re: #439 The Vicious Babushka

Except that I seem to remember Brian’s previous posts in which he ranted against Hillary and the DNC for being unkind to Berners (based on the bullshit Wikileaks DNC hack). I think he is just a troll who likes to stir shit up.

He went after Obama too.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:32:23am

re: #441 Archangelus

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I hope he was civil about it at least.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:32:37am

re: #359 makeitstop

And wasn’t she a blonde a minute ago?

Is she looking to snag that crucial Conservative Goth demo?
//

I think that’s Lisa Looper, the one who likes to show off her tits.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:33:00am
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Dr. Matt  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:33:17am

About time….

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:33:18am

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

Newt is only finding out just now that there’s a Democratic-Socialist party?
smh

Newt, there’s only one wing of the Democratic party according to you. Don’t be trying to split it now.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:33:27am

re: #438 plansbandc

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Is that Jack Black playing the guitar?

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Winston_Smith  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:34:03am

re: #372 Backwoods_Sleuth

she absolutely refused to trash the Democratic party, no matter how hard the reporter tried.

That’s exactly what Brian J. was predicting last night that the media would use her for.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:34:07am

re: #446 Dr. Matt

About time….

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Was he at least civil?//

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:35:15am

One of the things about Scott Walker’s attack on Wisconsin’s public unions was that he exempted the police. I assume that the SCOTUS ruling does not?

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:35:26am

re: #448 The Vicious Babushka

Is that Jack Black playing the guitar?

Yep.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:35:38am

re: #404 ObserverArt

Yes it was.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:35:52am

re: #449 Winston_Smith

That’s exactly what Brian J. was predicting last night that the media would use her for.

But he was also predicting she would play along.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:36:07am

re: #450 HappyWarrior

Was he at least civil?//

Of course not, “He voted for Hillary”

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makeitstop  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:36:18am

re: #444 Winston_Smith

I think that’s Lisa Looper, the one who likes to show of her tits.

Not, of course, to be confused with Lisa Loopner.

Gilda Live (1980)

I miss Gilda.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:37:15am

re: #450 HappyWarrior

Was he at least civil?//

Just misunderstood.

/

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TedStriker  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:39:04am

re: #349 Eclectic Cyborg

Can’t a person be charged for wasting the cops time?

For filling false police reports, yes.

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CongoJack  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:39:55am

re: #446 Dr. Matt

About time….

[Embedded content]

“Motorist” - might we just call him what he is…. a Nazi fuck-trumpet.

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dangerman  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:40:01am

re: #416 MsJ

In an incredibly condescending, sexist way, no less.

I understand what he was saying, but he couldn’t have said it worse if he tried…short of saying this stupid bitch should never have run and women do not have a place anywhere except a beauty pageant because women cannot think above platitudes when asked anything ever.

i wasnt around last night and dont knwo the context of this other than what i just read

should never have run
women dont have a place

go back to my re: #406 dangerman

what you think should happen - what other people should and shouldnt do - is not how democracy works

- if you have better ideas, sell them. yes, you have to sell “i think other people should….”
- participate - join and vote at the local organization level - this is where policy and electors are made
- run - and beat everyone else

democracy runs on votes, not “shoulds”

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ObserverArt  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:40:24am

re: #423 HappyWarrior

Brian’s problem is he’s the opposite side of the coin from the Bernie Busters. He wants to see everyone who supported Bernie as an enemy.

Take Brian J. out of it…personality and all.

There are others here at Little Green Footballs that see Bernie as an enemy…surely not a help.

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b.d.  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:40:36am

re: #459 CongoJack

“Motorist” - might we just call him what he is…. a Nazi fuck-trumpet.

I wonder what Trump’s pardon of him will call him?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:42:13am

re: #441 Archangelus

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upding for Yolo Minneapolis

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MsJ  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:42:47am

re: #433 ObserverArt

I don’t agree with Brian J. I do think he was on to one little thing that is important. Everything else was BS.

One last attempt to explain. If there is a war between centrist Democrats and Berners again it may well cost us another election and give us Trump one more time.

What do you think is going through the mind of Tom Perez this morning when he looks at the New York results? Do you think he is concerned about Bernie in any way?

I get what you are saying but this woman was doing things Bernie ever did. She went to the border, she actually believes in the things she is saying (one assumes, we shall see once she wins and arrives). Bernie was always all talk. Believing the same things and taking action are different things. At this point, I do not even know what Bernie believes. I know what he says.

I say give her a chance.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:43:33am

re: #449 Winston_Smith

That’s exactly what Brian J. was predicting last night that the media would use her for.

and just goes to show that Brian didn’t have the first clue about who she is

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:44:35am

re: #461 ObserverArt

Take Brian J. out of it…personality and all.

There are other here at Little Green Footballs that see Bernie as an enemy…surely not a help.

I see Bernie the same way but I’m also not going to discount someone simply because they preferred Bernie. That’s my point and I afraid we risk falling into the same black and white view of politics that the Bros do if we base our perception of candidates based on him.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:44:59am

re: #465 Backwoods_Sleuth

He knew what the media would do, and will continue to do. I’m glad she stayed above it, but it shows what we’re up against.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:45:39am

Another thing about Newt’s and McConnell’s statements: According to Republicans, every Democrat that runs is the most liberal, far left candidate that ever was.

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plansbandc  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:45:58am

re: #448 The Vicious Babushka

Yes it is JB.

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dangerman  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:47:14am

re: #459 CongoJack

“Motorist” - might we just call him what he is…. a Nazi fuck-trumpet.

can you do that in a police report?

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wrenchwench  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:47:15am

re: #456 makeitstop

Not, of course, to be confused with Lisa Loopner.

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I miss Gilda.

She was soooo good. So proficient at her chosen art.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:47:35am
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danarchy  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:49:49am

re: #464 MsJ

I get what you are saying but this woman was doing things Bernie ever did. She went to the border, she actually believes in the things she is saying (one assumes, we shall see once she wins and arrives). Bernie was always all talk. Believing the same things and taking action are different things. At this point, I do not even know what Bernie believes. I know what he says.

I say give her a chance.

Anyone know who the republican challenger is? I think I remember something about it being an economics professor. What is the district make up like, I assume it is a pretty safe democratic seat, but with only 12% turnout, the folks who voted in the primary probably aren’t totally representative. Just wondering if the Rs have any shot at a pickup now.

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MsJ  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:50:09am

re: #460 dangerman

i wasnt around last night and dont knwo the context of this other than what i just read

should never have run
women dont have a place

go back to my

what you think should happen - what other people should and shouldnt do - is not how democracy works

- if you have better ideas, sell them. yes, you have to sell “i think other people should….”
- participate - join and vote at the local organization level - this is where policy and electors are made
- run - and beat everyone else

democracy runs on votes, not “shoulds”

Which is pretty much what HappyWarrior and others were saying in response. But he kept doubling and tripling down.

I just scanned past his bullshit. I wasn’t doing much commenting last night, just reading, but I was in complete “fuck that guy” mode.

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TedStriker  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:50:23am

re: #472 Backwoods_Sleuth

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IOW, Trump’s kind of guy.

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MsJ  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:50:42am

re: #461 ObserverArt

Take Brian J. out of it…personality and all.

There are other here at Little Green Footballs that see Bernie as an enemy…surely not a help.

Of which I am one.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:51:15am

re: #473 danarchy

Anyone know who the republican challenger is? I think I remember something about it being an economics professor. What is the district make up like, I assume it is a pretty safe democratic seat, but with only 12% turnout, the folks who voted in the primary probably aren’t totally representative. Just wondering if the Rs have any shot at a pickup now.

D+29. Very unlikely imo.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:53:00am

re: #476 MsJ

Of which I am one.

And me too but I’m also aware that he has admirers. You want to prove Bernie wrong, you don’t act like he does. Bernie’s problem isn’t his ideology necessarily but more so his approach.

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makeitstop  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:53:03am

re: #473 danarchy

Anyone know who the republican challenger is? I think I remember something about it being an economics professor. What is the district make up like, I assume it is a pretty safe democratic seat, but with only 12% turnout, the folks who voted in the primary probably aren’t totally representative. Just wondering if the Rs have any shot at a pickup now.

70% minorities, heavy Latino constituency. She’ll mop the floor with whichever R tomato can they put up against her.

Crowley won his last race by 29 points, IIRC. She’ll be fine.

New York’s Republican primary isn’t until sometime in September, so we don’t know who she’s facing yet.

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dangerman  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:53:48am

re: #474 MsJ

Which is pretty much what HappyWarrior and others were saying in response. But he kept doubling and tripling down.

I just scanned past his bullshit. I wasn’t doing much commenting last night, just reading, but I was in complete “fuck that guy” mode.

you can keep wishing the system were different
short of blowing the whole thing up (which is a viable alternative to some people), you have to be inside to effect change.

otherwise you’re just yelling at the clouds

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makeitstop  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:55:14am

re: #461 ObserverArt

Take Brian J. out of it…personality and all.

There are other here at Little Green Footballs that see Bernie as an enemy…surely not a help.

Bernie’s going to actually, you know, help first. All I’ve seen is he’s all about helping himself.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:55:14am

re: #446 Dr. Matt

About time….

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:55:49am

She also worked for Teddy Kennedy which is pretty impressive since she was only 20 when he died. She’s a doer. I already like that about her more than Bernie.

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CongoJack  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:56:01am

re: #476 MsJ

Of which I am one.

Seconded. I liked Bernie before he ran for President. Its not what he supports, its not really what he condemns, it was how he decided to attack (Clinton) and run his campaign that left a bitter taste in my mouth.

Also after the fact that I have not seen him acknowledge that the Russians were helping his campaign in order to make HRC the “evil” he was supposedly against.

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danarchy  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:56:27am

re: #479 makeitstop

70% minorities, heavy Latino constituentship. She’ll mop the floor with whichever R tomato can they put up against her.

Crowley won his last race by 29 points, IIRC. She’ll be fine.

New York’s Republican primary isn’t until sometime in September, so we don’t know who she’s facing yet.

Just looked it up on ballotpedia. Apparently we do know, he ran unopposed.

Anthony Pappas

Not surprisingly, it is an old white guy.

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Mike Lamb  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:56:39am

I listened to Ocasio-Cortez being interviewed on NPR this morning. Not really seeing what the problem is. Her views are pretty mainstream. The “abolish ICE” angle is thoroughly overblown. She basically wants to go back to pre-PATRIOT Act days when INS ran the show, immigration wasn’t criminalized, the border patrol wasn’t militarized, and immigration officials couldn’t arbitrarily detain kids/families in what are tantamount to domestic black sites. Not really seeing the issue.

But above all, she’s going to be a first year congresswoman with limited influence. If the GOP successfully frames this as a far left takeover, while the GOP is held hostage by the gerrymandered nut balls of the Freedom Caucus, well, fuck it all.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:56:45am

re: #481 makeitstop

Bernie’s going to actually, you know, help first. All I’ve seen is he’s all about helping himself.

Yep. And I hope she learns that as she gets to see him in action.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:57:07am
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makeitstop  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:57:20am

re: #485 danarchy

Just looked it up on ballotpedia. Apparently we do know, he ran unopposed.

Anthony Pappas

Not surprisingly, it is an old white guy.

Ah, thanks. Corrected, I stand.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:57:41am

re: #486 Mike Lamb

I listened to Ocasio-Cortez being interviewed on NPR this morning. Not really seeing what the problem is. Her views are pretty mainstream. The “abolish ICE” angle is thoroughly overblown. She basically wants to go back to pre-PATRIOT Act days when INS ran the show, immigration wasn’t criminalized, the border patrol wasn’t militarized, and immigration officials couldn’t arbitrarily detain kids/families in what are tantamount to domestic black sites. Not really seeing the issue.

But above all, she’s going to be a first year congresswoman with limited influence. If the GOP successfully frames this as a far left takeover, while the GOP is held hostage by the gerrymandered nut balls of the Freedom Caucus, well, fuc k it all.

Agreed

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Bubblehead II  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:58:16am

OOPS! Wrong tweet. Here’s the correct one.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:58:23am

Let’s be honest if she hadn’t supported Bernie, it wouldn’t even been an issue.

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JordanRules  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:58:24am

re: #479 makeitstop

70% minorities, heavy Latino constituentship. She’ll mop the floor with whichever R tomato can they put up against her.

Crowley won his last race by 29 points, IIRC. She’ll be fine.

New York’s Republican primary isn’t until sometime in September, so we don’t know who she’s facing yet.

BX and QB twitter were fired up last night. Once she’s facing the opposition I think she’ll get even more first time voters engaged and get the district excited again.

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ObserverArt  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:58:29am

re: #449 Winston_Smith

That’s exactly what Brian J. was predicting last night that the media would use her for.

I am more concerned about what Bernie and Nina will use her for…in the media.

One thing Alexandria Ocasio-Corte has going for her, she seems to be in a district that she can win. So that is good.

So maybe she realizes she doesn’t need Bernie and Nina and ignores them.

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makeitstop  Jun 27, 2018 • 9:58:34am

re: #488 Backwoods_Sleuth

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They’ve got him so pegged.

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lawhawk  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:00:13am

re: #479 makeitstop

70% minorities, heavy Latino constituency. She’ll mop the floor with whichever R tomato can they put up against her.

Crowley won his last race by 29 points, IIRC. She’ll be fine.

New York’s Republican primary isn’t until sometime in September, so we don’t know who she’s facing yet.

Want to know why Cortez won? That’s why. The immigration debate moved this race more than any other factor. She was perceived as being better on it even though Crowley was good and has been good for his district.

The GOP isn’t likely to win this seat, not when GOPers nationwide are watching seats where they have 20 point advantages take heat or lose outright to challengers in special elections.

GOTV is everything. Vote like your life depends on it - because it absolutely does.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:01:10am

re: #486 Mike Lamb

I listened to Ocasio-Cortez being interviewed on NPR this morning. Not really seeing what the problem is. Her views are pretty mainstream. The “abolish ICE” angle is thoroughly overblown. She basically wants to go back to pre-PATRIOT Act days when INS ran the show, immigration wasn’t criminalized, the border patrol wasn’t militarized, and immigration officials couldn’t arbitrarily detain kids/families in what are tantamount to domestic black sites. Not really seeing the issue.

But above all, she’s going to be a first year congresswoman with limited influence. If the GOP successfully frames this as a far left takeover, while the GOP is held hostage by the gerrymandered nut balls of the Freedom Caucus, well, fuck it all.

Turtle thinks ICE is the Border Patrol and the US Military.

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ObserverArt  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:02:31am

re: #464 MsJ

I get what you are saying but this woman was doing things Bernie ever did. She went to the border, she actually believes in the things she is saying (one assumes, we shall see once she wins and arrives). Bernie was always all talk. Believing the same things and taking action are different things. At this point, I do not even know what Bernie believes. I know what he says.

I say give her a chance.

I have no issues with her at all. That has never been the point with me.

I think what she did is great. If I was her I’d be breathing into a paper bag this morning with a full-on head-spinning panic attack going on.

She seemed pretty surprised she won. I can certainly understand.

Nope my point is Bernie and Nina fucking things up as they are wont to do.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:02:51am

re: #496 lawhawk

Want to know why Cortez won? That’s why. The immigration debate moved this race more than any other factor. She was perceived as being better on it even though Crowley was good and has been good for his district.

The GOP isn’t likely to win this seat, not when GOPers nationwide are watching seats where they have 20 point advantages take heat or lose outright to challengers in special elections.

GOTV is everything. Vote like your life depends on it - because it absolutely does.

Which is something I must stress is very unlike Bernie. Bernie has ignored the immigration issue mostly until he was forced to move to the left on it.

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lawhawk  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:03:06am

Civility.

Trump’s going to pick up a guy ousted from Fox for sex harassment.

Yeah, he’s really going to be good for women and minorities.

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wrenchwench  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:04:14am

re: #483 HappyWarrior

She also worked for Teddy Kennedy which is pretty impressive since she was only 20 when he died. She’s a doer. I already like that about her more than Bernie.

Bernie was not the first bull she rode in a rodeo. That makes a difference.

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ObserverArt  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:05:55am

re: #481 makeitstop

Bernie’s going to actually, you know, help first. All I’ve seen is he’s all about helping himself.

You understand.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:06:15am

re: #501 wrenchwench

Bernie was not the first bull she rode in a rodeo. That makes a difference.

Makes a big difference to me. But you know even if he was, I’d still be willing to give her a chance. One of my good friends I made canvassing, a young man a lot younger than me- yeah I know you guys think I’m a kid but anyhow, this guy grew up in a Republican household and had an epiphany a few years back and works his ass off for Dems. He also supported Bernie. You can have supported Sanders without being a Bro. That’s what Brian hasn’t gotten.

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danarchy  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:06:39am

re: #486 Mike Lamb

I listened to Ocasio-Cortez being interviewed on NPR this morning. Not really seeing what the problem is. Her views are pretty mainstream.

I don’t know much about her but what I saw in her one viral Ad, but she seemed pretty far left. Basically a Bernie wishlist of issues. Medicare-for-all, free public universities, a federally guaranteed jobs program, abolish ICE and CBP. While those may be laudable goals, I don’t think they could be considered mainstream…or particularly realistic. But as has been said, she is basically going to be a back bencher, so there is only so much she could get done anyhow. If she can provide good constituent services and move the needle on some conversations, then it is all good.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:07:14am

re: #502 ObserverArt

You understand.

I think I do too OA but I just hated seeing Brian throw her in the bathwater because of htat association. I can’t stand Bernie and honestly I wish more lefties saw the Bernie that you, I, and most of LGF have but they don’t for whatever reason.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:07:40am

just don’t call it Obamacare and Kentuckians will be fine with it

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makeitstop  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:07:51am

re: #500 lawhawk

Civility.

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Trump’s going to pick up a guy ousted from Fox for sex harassment.

Yeah, he’s really going to be good for women and minorities.

It’ll make for much better message coordination! I’m sure Shine’s still got moles in the hallowed halls of State Media.
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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:08:00am

re: #504 danarchy

I don’t know much about her but what I saw in her one viral Ad, but she seemed pretty far left. Basically a Bernie wishlist of issues. Medicare-for-all, free public universities, a federally guaranteed jobs program, abolish ICE and CBP. While those may be laudable goals, I don’t think they could be considered mainstream…or particularly realistic. But as has been said, she is basically going to be a back bencher, so there is only so much she could get done anyhow. If she can provide good constituent services and move the needle on some conversations, then it is all good.

Her perspective as a Latina woman under 30 alone will be worth it IMO.

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wrenchwench  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:08:32am

re: #503 HappyWarrior

Makes a big difference to me. But you know even if he was, I’d still be willing to give her a chance. One of my good friends I made canvassing, a young man a lot younger than me- yeah I know you guys think I’m a kid but anyhow, this guy grew up in a Republican household and had an epiphany a few years back and works his ass off for Dems. He also supported Bernie. You can have supported Sanders without being a Bro. That’s what Brian hasn’t gotten.

And you understand the door-to-door dynamic. She can’t be used, unless she wants to be. She beat an incumbent.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:09:34am

For me, the problem was never really Sanders ideas. I honestly would have probably preferred a lefty alternative to HRC that had some of the lefty focus but more pragmatism and I know this won’t come off well but less baggage. Though I completely agree that a lot of the stuff about HRC is just crap.

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MsJ  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:09:53am

re: #484 CongoJack

Seconded. I liked Bernie before he ran for President. Its not what he supports, its not really what he condemns, it was how he decided to attack (Clinton) and run his campaign that left a bitter taste in my mouth.

Also after the fact that I have not seen him acknowledge that the Russians were helping his campaign in order to make HRC the “evil” he was supposedly against.

Precisely. His campaign was what turned me. His supporters are also a little hard to deal with sometimes, but I think it came from him. His “show me how much you love me by being the biggest dick possible” attitude spread like a mutated virus. It was him running for POTUS that made me absolutely hate him. Before that I thought he was righteous in his indignation…unknowing how much he was all talk and nothing else.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:11:11am

re: #509 wrenchwench

And you understand the door-to-door dynamic. She can’t be used, unless she wants to be. She beat an incumbent.

Indeed. You can’t discount how she made her presence felt in the district. I don’t know the details but she did something right here.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:11:49am

re: #511 MsJ

Precisely. His campaign was what turned me. His supporters are also a little hard to deal with sometimes, but I think it came from him. His “show me how much you love me by being the biggest dick possible” attitude spread like a mutated virus. It was him running for POTUS that made me absolutely hate him. Before that I thought he was righteous in his indignation…unknowing how much he was all talk and nothing else.

Same. In fact, I was willing to support him in the VA Primaries until popularity got the best of his ego.

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freetoken  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:12:24am

Today the Okeanos Explorer is off the coast of North Carolina, looking for a possible WWII sunken ship.

Anyway, they are in shallower water than usual, and in the midst of the Gulf Stream, and what they find is lots and lots of trash, everywhere:

We use the oceans as our dump.

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BeachDem  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:12:41am

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL, Laura…take a seat

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Or change a tire. (The night of the tragic tire incident and the ensuing twitter threads lives forever in my memory.)

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wrenchwench  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:13:30am

re: #512 HappyWarrior

Indeed. You can’t discount how she made her presence felt in the district. I don’t know the details but she did something right here.

That’s what Beto is trying to do in the whole damn state of Texas. Go everywhere. Talk to anyone who will pause.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:14:09am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:14:38am

re: #516 wrenchwench

That’s what Beto is trying to do in the whole damn state of Texas. Go everywhere. Talk to anyone who will pause.

I love Beto. In fact, he’s the exact kind of person I hope we nominate against Trump or Pence.

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makeitstop  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:14:50am

It was a good night for progressive women in New York. Liuba Shirley won my district.

How she’ll fare against Peter King remains to be seen. But I’d really love to see her send him home.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:14:53am
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lawhawk  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:15:16am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:16:24am
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lawhawk  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:16:53am

What was surprising about the Crowley loss last night is that he’d been running unopposed all these years:

Yeah, this is what can happen if you run credible candidates in all elections.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:17:09am

re: #506 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rep. John Yarmuth (D-KY), who’s in line to chair Budget if Dems win House, is unabashed about where the party needs to go. “If I’m chairman of the Budget Committee next year, we’ll have hearings on Medicare for All.”

just don’t call it Obamacare and Kentuckians will be fine with it

KEEP TEH GUMMINTS HANDS OFF MA MEDICARE!!!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:18:08am
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MsJ  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:18:37am
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gwangung  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:19:16am

re: #506 Backwoods_Sleuth

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just don’t call it Obamacare and Kentuckians will be fine with it

“We’re bringing back the old Kynect.”

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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:20:40am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:21:07am

gaaaaaaahhhhhh

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Interesting Times  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:22:07am

Haven’t a lot of us complained about establishment Dems not paying enough attention to downballot elections and failing to stress their importance? Well…

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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:22:49am
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Mike Lamb  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:24:24am

re: #528 Charles Johnson

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They should have fought harder for Garland? Thanks, Captain Obvious.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:24:49am

re: #531 Charles Johnson

Trump and McConnell have taught a lot of people valuable lessons. Some of us didn’t need to fail the test to see it, but that’s where we are.

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plansbandc  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:26:23am

re: #531 Charles Johnson

This is what they have to say now? After we are fucked in half? Sweet.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:29:29am

re: #528 Charles Johnson

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They definitely should have fought harder.

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Interesting Times  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:31:05am

re: #533 Belafon

Trump and McConnell have taught a lot of people valuable lessons. Some of us didn’t need to fail the test to see it, but that’s where we are.

Hell, I was commenting here two years ago wondering why the hell Obama and others were saying *nice* things about Paul Ryan and McConnell at the Dem convention e_e No mention whatsoever of the grotesque obstruction and SCOTUS theft.

Their biggest mistake, obviously, was refusing to adhere to the wisest of sayings that no one went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:31:59am

Portugal’s radical drugs policy is working. Why hasn’t the world copied it?

Since it decriminalised all drugs in 2001, Portugal has seen dramatic drops in overdoses, HIV infection and drug-related crime.

Thought this passage was interesting. Rather reminds me of fundy-ruled Texas, except that the ignorance here is continuous and self reinforcing. In actual practice, the “family values” grift leaves one generation after another completely unprepared for the temptations and pressures of the modern world.

Forty years of authoritarian rule under the regime established by António Salazar in 1933 had suppressed education, weakened institutions and lowered the school-leaving age, in a strategy intended to keep the population docile. The country was closed to the outside world; people missed out on the experimentation and mind-expanding culture of the 1960s. When the regime ended abruptly in a military coup in 1974, Portugal was suddenly opened to new markets and influences. Under the old regime, Coca-Cola was banned and owning a cigarette lighter required a licence. When marijuana and then heroin began flooding in, the country was utterly unprepared.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:33:11am
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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:34:48am

re: #538 Charles Johnson

I want to see Evangelicals “go high.” They can’t clear the first step on a two step porch right now, but have at it.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:35:01am

re: #538 Charles Johnson

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Do they have no self awareness at all? I’ll admit it. I’m not always a civilized person and I’ll even admit we on the left are far from it but unlike conservatives, we don’t lie about what we actually are. We don’t make heroes out of people like Trump, Limbaugh, and others like that.

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danarchy  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:36:28am

re: #530 Interesting Times

Haven’t a lot of us complained about establishment Dems not paying enough attention to downballot elections and failing to stress their importance? Well…

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The ironic part is if more people had actually voted in the primary I bet the establishment guy would have had a better chance to win. Just my opinion, we’ll never really know.

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dangerman  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:37:01am

re: #538 Charles Johnson

Wow. Once again the Federalist proves utterly, completely lacking in self-awareness. The site that published torture porn fantasizing about a civil war preaches about “going high.” Unbelievable.

i’da gone with “Federalist supports and recommends Michelle Obama’s plan”

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BeachDem  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:41:25am

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Newt is only finding out just now that there’s a Democratic-Socialist party?
smh

Talk about a tsunami! One person gets 16,000 votes to win a primary and suddenly the world will never be the same.

One NYT writer credits the win to Ryan Grim and The Intercept. Uh huh.

But, vying for most ridiculous primary take, trust The Intercept to be vying for top position with this headline from a few days ago:

SOUTH CAROLINA CONGRESSIONAL RUNOFF SIGNALS
A PRO-PALESTINE SHIFT AMONG DEMOCRATS (not posting link because it’s all too idiotic)

They’re talking about Mal Hyman, who, by the way, lost the runoff (although he’s contesting the results and his campaign is whining to the state party that they should disqualify the winner—somebody who has been a Dem state legislator for 10 years—because reasons.)

I had to suffer through MANY Mal speeches during the past few months, and never once heard him mention a single world about Palestine. Mal also lost in 2016 by 22 points.

But hey, it’s a SIGNAL!!

Le sigh.

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Bass Reeves  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:42:52am

re: #461 ObserverArt

Well…but…Bernie basically has cast himself as the villain in this. I didn’t just wake up and go ‘That Bernie guy is no good I tell you what!’. He campaigned on helping white people. Period. He’s trashed the party, caused a shitton of division, ran an actually corrupt campaign, and continues to denigrate the Dem party while leeching off of it, and expects to get nominated for President.

He’s…not an ally. Just a less important enemy whose rhetoric and actions are usually unhelpful.

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BeachDem  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:43:12am

re: #434 Sir John Barron

Unlike the moderate GOP which never primaries its incumbents.

Hell, Elijah Cummings (one of my very favorite reps) had four primary challengers. Shit happens.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:43:28am

re: #538 Charles Johnson

Sweet fancy Moses.

Yeah, The Federalist is some piece of work. Slavish defenders of that orange guy in the WH, no matter his behavior.

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plansbandc  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:43:33am

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:44:30am

My observation: there’s nothing wrong with progressives like Alexandria Ocasio-Corte, even if they’re criticizing Democrats to their right, so long as that criticism is substantive and avoids the potholes of populism and shallow rhetoric.

What bugs me right now…about politics, about the underpinning culture that informs politics, and about internet culture…is the ascendancy of shallowness and performative “takes” for an audience. People tell themselves stories about how the world works, and when those stories become all about self-gratification, there’s no incentive to doubt or even explore a prevailing narrative that’s enjoyable.

Shallowness is fucking us up. Internet hot takery and memes are Roman Republic bread and circuses but faster. We’ve got a dozen versions of the Futurist Manifesto: artists talking about technology and society in artistic, symbolic terms while not engaging with (1) the actuality of technology, because they don’t understand how shit works on a scientific, engineering, or logistical level, (2) inserting meaning into neutral objects and failing to understand that their impressions are impressions, while denying the assessments of others who might fucking know better (see: the Futurist celebration of violence and war as aesthetic, transformative, which does not engage at all with the lived experience of conflict, and specifically has no place for the idea of being the victim rather than the perpetrator)

Shallowness informs every variety of antiskepticism and denialism.
It informs the anti-intellectual instinct such that they attempt to apply rigor or consider context is itself is “elitist.”
It informs the use of symbols and titles while eroded the ideals the symbols are supposed to symbolize.
It informs the press’s continuing push to create click-worthy material and thinkpiece that the maintenance of a performative status quo—everybody’s equally bad, “civility,” et cetera—and the idea that external detail override deeper structural issues.
It informs populism and people who merge their identity with a singular figure
…and thus also informs the horseshoe theory, because a total ideological transformation isn’t that shocking if you’re not engaging on a level deeper than surface impressions and self-gratification
It informs the conspiracist mindset in which complexity of the claim is seen as a proof, while a basic standard of empirical proof…the receipts, if you will…are rejected.
It informs the all-siderism that blocks the structural arguments behind social justice and discussion of prejudice, such that any individual instance of bad behavior nullifies all context of oppression…much like the notion of “assimilation” was a baited trap and a no-win scenario.

We’re in a scary moment where aestheticism has become veracity…again. It’s not a new thing, history is full of powerful people more or less skilled at wielding culture—symbols identifiers, rituals—to create a power block built on seeming. It’s generally a bubble…much like scams are a bubble…but the question becomes how big it can inflate before the facade collapses.

You want a basic standard to assess what to push back against? Consider the depth of an individual. How often do they apply nuance or accept complexity? Do they have blind spots where they fail to do this, and places where they succeed? Do they seem to deliberately use shallowness to their advantage? Do they double down on shallowness?

This is the standard I apply, and it’s not a black-and-white one, either.

I’ve said before (drink!) that we’re not in a political fight, we’re in an epistemological one. This is an offshoot of that issue. There is no ideology or concept that cannot be emptied out or bullshitted into meaninglessness.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:44:40am

re: #545 BeachDem

Hell, Elijah Cummings (one of my very favorite reps) had four primary challengers. Shit happens.

We had six people in ours. The winner was a State Senator who’s very well liked but primaries are necessary. Everyone starts out somewhere. Who knows where her career will go from here but from what I’ve read on Alexandria, I like her and her voice, I think she’s got the potential to make a positive difference.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:44:53am

From Ocasio-Cortez’s Wikipedia page:

Ocasio-Cortez was born in The Bronx, New York City and moved to Yorktown, New York, at a young age. As a high school student, she won second prize at the Intel International Science and Engineering Fair, with a microbiology research project. As a result, MIT’s Lincoln Laboratory named a large asteroid after her, 23238 Ocasio-Cortez.[5]

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:45:16am

re: #542 dangerman

i’da gone with “Federalist supports and recommends Michelle Obama’s plan”

Federalist Pitchbot: We’re So Reasonable, How Come People Persecute Us?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:45:42am

What I hate is this narrative is it’s HRC people versus Bernie people. It’s not that goddamn simple.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:46:23am

re: #550 Belafon

From Ocasio-Cortez’s Wikipedia page:

I’m sure Trump’s got one of his brilliant nicknames waiting for her. //

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dangerman  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:47:41am

re: #523 lawhawk

What was surprising about the Crowley loss last night is that he’d been running unopposed all these years:

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Yeah, this is what can happen if you run credible candidates in all elections.

some very good commenting about her at politicalwire.com

Rhysem • 3 hours ago
Well, I’m glad somebody learned a few lessons from Bernie’s disastrous, “I am, but I’m not really” shtick.

Taegan himself:

It seems she’s wiser than her years may suggest and that she understands how power works. That will serve her well.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:47:51am

re: #538 Charles Johnson

I wonder how Georgi felt about the LOCK HER UP chants during the campaign? Oh hell the chants are still going on.

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Interesting Times  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:48:20am

re: #552 HappyWarrior

What I hate is this narrative is it’s HRC people versus Bernie people. It’s not that goddamn simple.

You might be surprised at who seems to concur:

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:48:53am
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jaunte  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:49:15am

reporters must have ICE approval

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:49:58am

re: #553 HappyWarrior

I’m sure Trump’s got one of his brilliant nicknames waiting for her. //

He’s so happy that a congresscritter who dared criticize him lost he hasn’t thought up any nicknames yet.

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plansbandc  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:50:02am

re: #557 jaunte

This is really fucking scary.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:50:14am

re: #557 jaunte

Somehow, I doubt it, Molly. That’s about as enforceable as their “warrants.”

She needs to gather a few more reporters, a lawyer, and talk to the judge.

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:51:04am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:51:35am

re: #521 lawhawk

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:51:54am

re: #556 Interesting Times

You might be surprised at who seems to concur:

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I really wish Bernie would stop acting as if he speaks for the working class, he doesn’t.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:53:18am

re: #563 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:54:25am

re: #565 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:55:06am

re: #558 jaunte

reporters must have ICE approval

What’s wrong with making sure the reporters have Gestapo approval?

//

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:55:28am

re: #564 HappyWarrior

I really wish Bernie would stop acting as if he speaks for the working class, he doesn’t.

I think the difference between her and Sanders is Sanders has been about Sanders winning. I think she’s actually running because people have been screwed and there needs to be more fighters.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:56:14am

re: #565 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

CHANGE THE LAW! BORDERS! WIN!!!

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Mike Lamb  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:56:17am

re: #563 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Democratic obstruction!

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:56:32am

re: #567 Sir John Barron

“Thank you for calling the ICE reporter access line. Please hold.”

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:57:17am

I get the impression that Sanders is actually trying to fight for some people, but HE keeps getting in the way.

Edit: Oh, and misogyny. I will always believe that was a huge chunk of 2016.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:57:20am

re: #568 Belafon

I think the difference between her and Sanders is Sanders has been about Sanders winning. I think she’s actually running because people have been screwed and there needs to be more fighters.

I do too.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:58:53am

re: #572 Belafon

I get the impression that Sanders is actually trying to fight for some people, but HE keeps getting in the way.

My problem with him is he refuses to admit that we can have a place in our party for tolerant minded people who work on WS and the WWC. I’m not against the working class. I’m against Sanders wanting us to accept their anxieties and dismiss other people’s and I hope that Alexandria as she sees more of Bernie that she gets that about him and his agenda.

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:59:36am
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 27, 2018 • 10:59:51am

re: #548 The Ghost of a Flea

This is also what has landed me on the putative “left” of the US political spectrum. The “right” is not conservative, it has more and more become a coalition of individuals who despise the notion of truth and evalutation of truth, because their standard of “what is right” and what is Right” hinges upon affiliation and externalities (rituals and signs that one is of the in-group) to establish Truth…in ways that makes their subjective take objective, complete with changes made on the fly to suit their instant needs.

This is a problem on the left…the “civility” fetish of the individuals who’ve gotten too comfortable in their personal interactions with reactionaries, but also in the kiddie-pool application of Marxist notions to explain a much more complicated systemic issue…but it is not the informing axiom of the left as it is to the Religious Right (for whom Truth is God, but God as filtered through charismatic individuals that are the Elect), the Objectivists (for whom Truth is handed down by the monied), the conmen (for whom Truth doesn’t matter beyond its utility), the nationalists….

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:01:19am

re: #569 Sir John Barron

BUILD THE WALL! CHANGE THE LAW! BUILD THE WALL! BORDERS! BUILD THE WALL! WIN!!!

FTFY

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:02:07am

re: #370 Dr. Matt

Just a reminder, the left should be more civil….

“You seem to forget we have all the guns”. If it comes to that boy will they be surprised.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:03:31am

re: #578 Eventual Carrion

“You seem to forget we have all the guns”. If it comes to that boy will they be surprised.

Tehy really do think we’re what their stupid memes think we are.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:03:54am

This morning

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Dr. Matt  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:03:55am

re: #566 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

TRUMP-BACKED BILL DEFEATED … House overwhelmingly voted down immigration bill backed by POTUS, 121-301. Yikes

Goodness, this is as low a majority vote total as you’ll see

Paul Ryan casts a rare vote, supporting the bill. McCarthy and scalise, yes. Meadows and Jordan vote no.

SEEE TEH DEMOCRAT PARTY IZ OBSTRUKTONSTS!!!!

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ObserverArt  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:04:24am

re: #536 Interesting Times

Hell, I was commenting here two years ago wondering why the hell Obama and others were saying *nice* things about Paul Ryan and McConnell at the Dem convention e_e No mention whatsoever of the grotesque obstruction and SCOTUS theft.

Their biggest mistake, obviously, was refusing to adhere to the wisest of sayings that no one went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.

At one time there was a bit of common civility in our government. Some of the older Democrats remember that and mistakenly thought they would see that.

Obama himself knew he couldn’t push too hard because…well…pushy Black guy.

They all missed by a whole bunch the reactions of Mitch and Gang. They forgot to figure in Mitch would get cover from the media too.

Yeah, tough lessons were learned. And here we are. Nice guys get rolled. No more nice guy.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:05:14am

Fuck

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Dr. Matt  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:05:51am

WE ARE FUCCCCKEEED

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:06:03am

re: #577 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

FTFY

Remove judges! Replace with law say you can’t come in here! Change the law! Secure the border! Go home Mexicans! No rapists and murderers wanted here! No court or lawyer for you!

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Citizen K  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:06:50am

re: #583 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Fuck

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Welp. It’s over.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:07:42am
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Dr. Matt  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:07:58am

Kennedy could have waited until after the midterms. Fucking asshole.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:09:42am
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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:09:55am

we are so fucked

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JordanRules  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:10:10am
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Interesting Times  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:10:47am

re: #590 The Vicious Babushka

we are so fucked

Supreme Court Judge Jeannine Ducklips 🤢

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:11:27am

re: #583 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Fuck

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Aw hell no.

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ObserverArt  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:11:28am

re: #552 HappyWarrior

What I hate is this narrative is it’s HRC people versus Bernie people. It’s not that goddamn simple.

And where did that come from?

And how did the media help it?

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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:11:29am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:12:34am

re: #594 ObserverArt

And where did that come from?

And how did the media help it?

That’s what I’m talking about. The media pushes that crap.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:12:56am

re: #595 Charles Johnson

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Get ready for the most right wing court in years.

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makeitstop  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:13:21am

fuck fuck fuck fuck

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blueraven  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:13:26am

OMG…Roe v Wade

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JordanRules  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:13:59am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:14:12am

re: #599 blueraven

OMG…Roe v Wade

Marriage equality too.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:14:23am

You can kiss Roe goodbye.

Thank you Susan Sarandon and Jill Stein!

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:14:43am

re: #592 Interesting Times

Supreme Court Judge Jeannine Ducklips 🤢

SCOTUS Justice Jefferson Davis Bureaugard Sessions.

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makeitstop  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:15:05am

re: #601 HappyWarrior

Marriage equality too.

Fucking everything.

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EPR-radar  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:15:16am

re: #603 Sir John Barron

SCOTUS Justice Jefferson Davis Bureaugard Sessions.

Peter Thiel.

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Citizen K  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:15:32am

re: #597 HappyWarrior

Get ready for the most right wing court in years.

The eternal conservatopia just became reality. There’s no way to spin this at this point.

Barring a blow out in November and an epic homestand by the Democrats, we’ve just locked in the country to arch-conservatism for at least a lifetime.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:15:57am

re: #583 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Fuck

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Game over man, game over. If you’re young I’d be looking for another country to move to NOW! This one is finished. Period.

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TedStriker  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:16:15am

re: #571 jaunte

“Thank you for calling the ICE reporter access line. Please hold.”

“The current waiting time is go fuck yourself.”

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Winston_Smith  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:17:04am

re: #601 HappyWarrior

Marriage equality too.

Presidential term limits are dead too. Welcome to the Trump dictatorship.

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blueraven  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:18:00am

Democrats have to find a way to put off any vote on a SC nominee until after midterms…pray for senate to flip, then delay till start of new congress.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:18:32am

re: #609 Winston_Smith

Presidential term limits are dead too. Welcome to the Trump dictatorship.

Presidential term limits are in the constitution.

It’s when people make these statements that I’m like, WTF?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:18:46am

re: #609 Winston_Smith

Presidential term limits are dead too. Welcome to the Trump dictatorship.

Too many things to count.

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BeachDem  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:19:02am

re: #565 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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And they need to stop calling it a “compromise” bill.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:19:30am

Kennedy has been totally useless in recent decisions. He could have made an effort to support what was moral and true, instead he voted to make a majority that is destroying our country.

A reminder: if the Dems had tried to shut the Senate down over Garland, our worthless MSM would have criticized them in editorial after editorial.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:19:43am

re: #611 Belafon

Presidential term limits are in the constitution.

It’s when people make these statements that I’m like, WTF?

Yeah you have to repeal an amendment through the state legislatures. SCOTUS didn’t repeal Prohibition. The states did. That said, I understand why people arw worried.

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Archangelus  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:19:52am
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Winston_Smith  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:20:07am

re: #611 Belafon

Presidential term limits are in the constitution.

It’s when people make these statements that I’m like, WTF?

Right. The Constitution. Of course that can be changed, or in Trump’s case, just ignored.

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Citizen K  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:20:24am

re: #611 Belafon

Presidential term limits are in the constitution.

It’s when people make these statements that I’m like, WTF?

We’ve already just seen how malleable the constitution is with a perfect bulwark in the SCOTUS. With Kennedy gone, that bulwark may be permanent.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:20:34am

re: #614 Hecuba’s daughter

Kennedy has been totally useless in recent decisions. He could have made an effort to support what was moral and true, instead he voted to make a majority that is destroying our country.

A reminder: if the Dems had tried to shut the Senate down over Garland, our worthless MSM would have criticized them in editorial after editorial.

Totally useless? I wouldn’t go that far since he had the opinion that sealed it on SSM. He’s far from my favorite SCOTUS member but he’s not Roberts let alone the other three.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:20:54am

re: #615 HappyWarrior

How many State legislatures are now Republican?

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:20:59am

re: #610 blueraven

Democrats have to find a way to put off any vote on a SC nominee until after midterms…pray for senate to flip, then delay till start of new congress.

Exactly.

Payback’s a bitch, McConnell.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:21:02am

Kennedy gievs Trump his gift and then retires. What a fucking nightmare.

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Citizen K  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:21:19am

re: #615 HappyWarrior

Yeah you have to repeal an amendment through the state legislatures. SCOTUS didn’t repeal Prohibition. The states did. That said, I understand why people arw worried.

And the GOP owns how many states at this point? They’re already teetering on the edge of enough for a full constitutional convention.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:21:46am

re: #616 Archangelus

McConnell ran the Senate. That’s why he was able to do what he did.

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Mike Lamb  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:21:49am

This is really, really bad. We’re looking at 30 years of a right wing demamogogues in the majority.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:22:02am

re: #623 Citizen K

And the GOP owns how many states at this point? They’re already teetering on the edge of enough for a full constitutional convention.

I think they’re one or two states short.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:22:04am

re: #619 HappyWarrior

Totally useless? I wouldn’t go that far since he had the opinion that sealed it on SSM. He’s far from my favorite SCOTUS member but he’s not Roberts let alone the other three.

His wedding cake vote wasn’t exactly helpful.

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rhuarc  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:22:17am

Let’s hope the Democrats use every means to not allow a pick to come up for a vote. Delay, delay, delay as much as possible. If that means McConnell and the Republicans have to kill the filibuster, do it. What goes around comes around.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:22:38am

re: #617 Winston_Smith

Right. The Constitution. Of course that can be changed, or in Trump’s case, just ignored.

It won’t be ignored: Ivanka will run to be the first woman president. So the form of the Constitution is preserved while the substance is demolished.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:22:52am

re: #626 Dr Lizardo

I think they’re one or two states short.

And states like KY aren’t looking too hot for the GOP right now.

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Citizen K  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:23:09am

re: #625 Mike Lamb

This is really, really bad. We’re looking at 30 years of a right wing demamogogues in the majority.

30 years is looking like the minimum at this rate.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:23:18am

re: #623 Citizen K

And the GOP owns how many states at this point? They’re already teetering on the edge of enough for a full constitutional convention.

I know, I know.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:23:34am

re: #627 Belafon

His wedding cake vote wasn’t exactly helpful.

I agree but she said totally useless.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:23:56am

re: #628 rhuarc

Let’s hope the Democrats use every means to not allow a pick to come up for a vote. Delay, delay, delay as much as possible. If that means McConnell and the Republicans have to kill the filibuster, do it. What goes around comes around.

Bork the son of a bitch. I don’t care who it is.

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blueraven  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:24:27am

re: #623 Citizen K

And the GOP owns how many states at this point? They’re already teetering on the edge of enough for a full constitutional convention.

I think that is a stretch. I don’t think even republicans want to do away with Presidential term limits.

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danarchy  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:24:43am

re: #621 Dr Lizardo

Exactly.

Payback’s a bitch, McConnell.

the senate is still a republican majority and confirmations have been reduced to a straight majority. Unless a republican or 2 jump ship(yeah right), there is literally nothing they can do. Maybe they could use a few procedural delaying tactics, but they can’t stop it if the republicans are united.

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BeachDem  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:24:58am

Wow, Maggie, quite the scoop—as if anyone with two functioning brain cells couldn’t have figured that out. Your WH access is really paying off!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:25:54am

re: #633 HappyWarrior

I agree but she said totally useless.

I did say recent votes — not votes while Obama was President.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:25:54am

Guess I’m going to have to get back into Great Great Grandpas Underground Railroad business…

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Winston_Smith  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:26:08am

re: #631 Citizen K

30 years is looking like the minimum at this rate.

One thing’s for sure. This really going to get out the GOP vote in November.

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freetoken  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:26:33am

Long term political reform is possible but it will take quite the effort on the part of millions.

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EPR-radar  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:26:36am

re: #634 HappyWarrior

Bork the son of a bitch. I don’t care who it is.

Bork gots his up or down votes, both in committee and on the Senate floor. RWNJs just whine endlessly about how those votes turned out.

What happened to Garland was no mere ‘Borking’.

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Citizen K  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:26:48am

re: #635 blueraven

I think that is a stretch. I don’t think even republicans want to do away with Presidential term limits.

We also thought once upon a time that they wouldn’t go for Trump. And yet here we are.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:26:54am

re: #638 Hecuba’s daughter

I did say recent votes — not votes while Obama was President.

Oh my apologies.

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blueraven  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:27:00am

re: #636 danarchy

the senate is still a republican majority and confirmations have been reduced to a straight majority. Unless a republican or 2 jump ship(yeah right), there is literally nothing they can do. Maybe they could use a few procedural delaying tactics, but they can’t stop it if the republicans are united.

Flake might, and McCain probably wont be around, but if he is, he might as well.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:27:26am

Just this morning Stephanie Miller reacted to the recent SCOTUS rulings by saying, “it’s only going to get worse”.

Fucking prophetic.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:27:26am

re: #642 EPR-radar

Bork gots his up or down votes, both in committee and on the Senate floor. RWNJs just whine endlessly about how those votes turned out.

What happened to Garland was no mere ‘Borking’.

Yep and Bork had Republican opposition too. I was always proud my Republican SEnator opposed that bigoted kook.

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lawhawk  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:27:38am

re: #610 blueraven

Democrats have to find a way to put off any vote on a SC nominee until after midterms…pray for senate to flip, then delay till start of new congress.

Democrats do not have the votes to block any nomination.

We can only hope for Trump incompetence in nominating someone for the bench, and picking someone so incompetent that even the GOP will force them to decline the nomination or withdraw.

McConnell has completely fucked the nation for decades to come with his complete mockery of the advise and consent clause. He’s destroyed comity, but yeah, we’re supposed to be civil.

McConnell has done more to destroy the judiciary than any other person in government, including Trump. Trump’s the beneficiary of McConnell’s actions.

But how did we get here? Dems not voting in midterms, or getting on the purity pony ride and self-immolation over Obamacare instead of defending it at every turn. We are going to see a further erosion of civil and voting rights and all rights that people take for granted thanks to the feckless cunts in the GOP.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:27:49am

re: #637 BeachDem

Wow, Maggie, quite the scoop—as if anyone with two functioning brain cells couldn’t have figured that out. Your WH access is really paying off!

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be nice if Mueller could gum up the works a bit. But I’m not holding my breath.

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lawhawk  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:28:02am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:28:11am

re: #640 Winston_Smith

One thing’s for sure. This really going to get out the GOP vote in November.

And I think it’s going to strongly energize Democratic voters as well. Kennedy retired this term…..what if RBG goes next term?

That should energize Dems enough to do their damndest to take the Senate.

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plansbandc  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:28:15am

re: #586 Citizen K

Same sex marriage is over within the next 2 years. Abortion rights are over too.

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freetoken  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:29:01am

Meanwhile, under the sea, the search for a shipwreck turned out to be a bust, but the rover got a surprise, as a specimen of the largest boney fish on the planet decided to check out the rover:

Estimated to be about 6’ long.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:29:03am

re: #648 lawhawk

You know that’s not going to happen. The GOP would seat Melon if he nominated her.

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plansbandc  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:29:18am

re: #599 blueraven

Over.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:29:25am

re: #650 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

All Heritage Foundation approved I’m sure. Hardiman was the co-finalist for the stolen suit that Gorsuch now sits in.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:29:51am

re: #651 Dr Lizardo

And I think it’s going to strongly energize Democratic voters as well. Kennedy retired this term…..what if RBG goes next term?

That should energize Dems enough to do their damndest to take the Senate.

True, likewise it’s going to energize the Republicans though. Get ready for a fight.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:29:56am

re: #649 Barefoot Grin

be nice if Mueller could gum up the works a bit. But I’m not holding my breath.

OTOH, Trump’s probably expendable to McConnell and other Repubs after they get their Supreme Court pick.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:30:07am

re: #652 plansbandc

Same sex marriage is over within the next 2 years. Abortion rights are over too.

Abortion rights are all but over now. Still not seeing the huge Dem turnout.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:30:26am

re: #656 HappyWarrior

All Heritage Foundation approved I’m sure. Hardiman was the co-finalist for the stolen suit that Gorsuch now sits in.

Lee. It has to be Lee.

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plansbandc  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:30:41am

re: #607 Winston_Smith

Absolutely, unless you are one percenters like my nieces.

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freetoken  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:31:05am

re: #652 plansbandc

Same sex marriage is over within the next 2 years. Abortion rights are over too.

Don’t know if that will happen, as even conservative justices don’t like to flop a previous decision so quickly.

To me, the issues coming up in the near future have to do with representation, gerrymandering, and voting rights.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:31:08am

re: #660 Winston_Smith

Lee. It has to be Lee.

Agh. You may be right. Probably a thank you to Cruz for sticking by him even after he called his dad a murderer.

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Scottish Dragon  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:32:23am

re: #611 Belafon

Presidential term limits are in the constitution.

It’s when people make these statements that I’m like, WTF?

So is the emoluments clause. It isn’t being enforced.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:32:41am
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sagehen  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:33:31am

re: #628 rhuarc

Let’s hope the Democrats use every means to not allow a pick to come up for a vote. Delay, delay, delay as much as possible. If that means McConnell and the Republicans have to kill the filibuster, do it. What goes around comes around.

They already did.

Our only hopes now are Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Bob Corker and Jeff Flake.

In other words… very little hope.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:34:14am

re: #657 HappyWarrior

True, likewise it’s going to energize the Republicans though. Get ready for a fight.

This is what can flip a state like California’s governor’s election. Gavin Newsome’s sinking his Dem opponent’s campaign so he could face a Republican doesn’t look so smart now. Of course it didn’t look so smart back when he did it either.

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freetoken  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:34:18am

re: #666 sagehen

Didn’t Flake claim he wasn’t going to vote for any more Trump judicial nominees?

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:34:43am

re: #666 sagehen

They already did.

Our only hopes now are Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Bob Corker and Jeff Flake.

In other words… very little hope.

Flake, IIRC, hates Trump. So there’s some sliver of hope there. The others, I really can’t say.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:35:03am

re: #663 HappyWarrior

Agh. You may be right. Probably a thank you to Cruz for sticking by him even after he called his dad a murderer.

The only reason it wouldn’t be Lee is that he wouldn’t be allowed to vote for his own nomination. Or would he?

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:35:21am

re: #664 Scottish Dragon

So is the emoluments clause. It isn’t being enforced.

The one thing about the emoluments clause is it’s wishy-washy “by consent of the legislature” wording. It just doesn’t show up on people’s radar because. Him running for a third term definitely would.

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Citizen K  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:35:23am

re: #668 freetoken

Didn’t Flake claim he wasn’t going to vote for any more Trump judicial nominees?

Flake’s said a lot of things only to tumble back into the fold when it was time for the votes.

Take none of the assholes at their word: they really do act as a monolith.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:35:36am

re: #668 freetoken

Didn’t Flake claim he wasn’t going to vote for any more Trump judicial nominees?

Flake has never followed though on anything he’s said yet.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:35:52am

re: #670 Winston_Smith

The only reason it wouldn’t be Lee is that he wouldn’t be allowed to vote for his own nomination. Or would he?

Honestly, I don’t eevn know anymore man. These guys are so unethical that I wouldn’t put it past Trump to nominate Ivanka.

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JordanRules  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:35:52am

re: #650 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Gillibrand said earlier this week to oppose everybody on that list.

Of course, lists, processes, preparation and such don’t really mean much to this regime.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:36:19am

re: #669 Dr Lizardo

Flake, IIRC, hates Trump. So there’s some sliver of hope there. The others, I really can’t say.

Flake talks a good game. But notice my choice of verb.

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sagehen  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:36:30am

re: #648 lawhawk

But how did we get here? Dems not voting in midterms, or getting on the purity pony ride and self-immolation over Obamacare instead of defending it at every turn. We are going to see a further erosion of civil and voting rights and all rights that people take for granted thanks to the feckless cunts in the GOP.

Sadly, the GOP in this case aren’t “feckless” at all. They’re getting exactly what they always wanted, and were never shy about saying they wanted it.

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Scottish Dragon  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:36:42am

re: #606 Citizen K

The eternal conservatopia just became reality. There’s no way to spin this at this point.

Barring a blow out in November and an epic homestand by the Democrats, we’ve just locked in the country to arch-conservatism for at least a lifetime.

They can do 40 years of damage right now and they know it.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:37:03am

re: #664 Scottish Dragon

So is the emoluments clause. It isn’t being enforced.

Just last night Trump tweeted out an advertisement for his Turdberry golf course. It didn’t even make the papers.

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danarchy  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:37:40am

re: #669 Dr Lizardo

Flake, IIRC, hates Trump. So there’s some sliver of hope there. The others, I really can’t say.

If he wants a career after politics in the rightwingosphere my guess is he overcomes that hate.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:38:08am

re: #679 Winston_Smith

Just last night Trump tweeted out an advertisement for his Turdberry golf course. It didn’t even make the papers.

If it makes the papers, that’s just another ad. It’ll take lawsuits to stop Trump.

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plansbandc  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:38:45am

re: #635 blueraven

We thought Trump winning was a stretch. Did we think we would have internment camps??

Things are going to be wrecked beyond measure. And very quickly indeed.

If I were young, I would fully expect to be put into an internment camp within the next four years for being LGBTQ and very open in my disdain for the piece of shit pretending to be President. But I am old and not useful. So I don’t think they will waste money and time with me. I’ll just be disappeared.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:38:56am

I’m trying not despair but these are dark times.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:39:16am

I’m assuming he said this in a sarcastic tone

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Scottish Dragon  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:39:26am

re: #671 Belafon

The one thing about the emoluments clause is it’s wishy-washy “by consent of the legislature” wording. It just doesn’t show up on people’s radar because. Him running for a third term definitely would.

We already know over half of republicans support the idea of canceling elections.

What exactly stops him from simply declaring an election invalid and ordering an investigation into “illegal voting” and just ignoring court orders?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:40:07am

re: #683 HappyWarrior

I’m trying not despair but these are dark times.

I knew in spring of 2017 that things would have to get worse before they could get better, but I hope they don’t have to get too much worse.

Seems like it takes school kids getting shot in droves and refugee kids made into orphans of the state to start to get people to finally galvanize into action

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:40:20am

re: #684 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m assuming he said this in a sarcastic tone

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Tell that to Merrick Garland you turtle son of a bitch.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:40:41am

re: #684 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m assuming he said this in a sarcastic tone

[Embedded content]

To McConnell, in the civil words of Dick Cheney: go fuck yourself.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:41:00am

re: #686 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I knew in spring of 2017 that things would have to get worse before they could get better, but I hope they don’t have to get too much worse.

Seems like it takes school kids getting shot in droves and refugee kids made into orphans of the state to start to get people to finally galvanize into action

That may not eevn be enough.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:41:15am

re: #685 Scottish Dragon

We already know over half of republicans support the idea of canceling elections.

What exactly stops him from simply declaring an election invalid and ordering an investigation into “illegal voting” and just ignoring court orders?

Not the GOP Supreme Court as it’s currently constituted. The new GOP Supreme Court will agree with Trump that’s he’s completely above the reach of the law. You’re living in fantasy land if you can’t see that coming.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:41:15am

re: #684 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m assuming he said this in a sarcastic tone

We should wait, fairly, until after the midterms.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:41:50am

re: #684 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

McConnell on Kennedy retiring: “It’s imperative that the president’s nominee be treated fairly.”

— Natasha Bertrand

Why is it imperative, Mitch?

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Citizen K  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:42:47am

re: #686 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I knew in spring of 2017 that things would have to get worse before they could get better, but I hope they don’t have to get too much worse.

Seems like it takes school kids getting shot in droves and refugee kids made into orphans of the state to start to get people to finally galvanize into action

The problem with getting worse to get better is that the ‘things get better’ thing isn’t guaranteed. Sometimes, things just get worse. And worse. And worse, with no chance of getting better.

This is what I’m seeing so far. We’re not even close to the bottom yet. And that leaves me hopeless.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:42:47am

re: #692 Sir John Barron

Why is it imperative, Mitch?

Why because the President has an R next to his name and I have to make the Heritage Foundation assholes that rub my balls happy. //

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:42:55am

“I’m fairly certain _________ will be a disaster.”

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TedStriker  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:43:01am

re: #684 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’m assuming he said this in a sarcastic tone

[Embedded content]

As he jizzed his pants.

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Scottish Dragon  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:43:14am

At some point, we realize the constitution works because we all agree that it has to work.

So what happens when the POTUS and a significant part of his constituency simply decide to stop paying attention to the constitution and engage in Machiavelli power politics instead?

Saying something is unconstitutional is meaningless if there is no longer any means by which enforcement is possible.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:43:39am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:44:51am

re: #693 Citizen K

The problem with getting worse to get better is that the ‘things get better’ thing isn’t guaranteed. Sometimes, things just get worse. And worse. And worse, with no chance of getting better.

This is what I’m seeing so far. We’re not even close to the bottom yet. And that leaves me hopeless.

I also have to agree with the people who say that it will take decades to clean up the mess being made right now.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:45:03am

re: #650 lawhawk

DJT must have thought he died and went to heaven this week.

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blueraven  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:46:43am

re: #682 plansbandc

We thought Trump winning was a stretch. Did we think we would have internment camps??

Things are going to be wrecked beyond measure. And very quickly indeed.

If I were young, I would fully expect to be put into an internment camp within the next four years for being LGBTQ and very open in my disdain for the piece of shit pretending to be President. But I am old and not useful. So I don’t think they will waste money and time with me. I’ll just be disappeared.

Sorry, just not going to buy in to the the doom and gloom, give up…you can never win, go home, sit down and shut the fuck up, crap.

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Archangelus  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:47:48am

...

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 27, 2018 • 11:55:23am

re: #700 Sir John Barron

DJT must have thought he died and went to heaven this week.

The rest of us are in hell.

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dangerman  Jun 27, 2018 • 12:15:33pm

re: #697 Scottish Dragon

At some point, we realize the constitution works because we all agree that it has to work.

So what happens when the POTUS and ** congress** and a significant part of his constituency simply decide to stop paying attention to the constitution and engage in Machiavelli power politics instead?

Saying something is unconstitutional is meaningless if there is no longer any means by which enforcement is possible.

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