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Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2018 • 11:47:40am
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mmmirele  Jun 29, 2018 • 11:50:22am

Jason Kessler is the guy who is trying to get a permit to hold a follow up “Unite the Right” hate rally in Washington DC in August is having a bad time of late.

Yesterday, Unicorn Riot, a deconstructed group of artists and journalists (as in, “probably more anarchy that LGF people are used to, but they do go after Nazis”), got their hands on and published a log of Facebook chats by Kessler and others who are trying to put together the DC hate rally. It’s the usual swamp of “we’re not really violent” but “we’re looking for Hammerskins to help us” and “we need to get buses for Charlottesville” (apparently they’re going to try again in Cville!?) but “don’t call anywhere near there.” And so on.

unicornriot.ninja

More amusingly, Kessler was interrupted by his father last night while he was doing a livestream with another white supremacist. Apparently Jason’s father doesn’t approve of his son’s Nazi tendencies.

Jason Kessler’s Cucked Family

Kessler, 34, is living with his family because he’s embroiled in lawsuits.

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mmmirele  Jun 29, 2018 • 11:51:20am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

They’re buying billboards now, too:

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Sir John Barron  Jun 29, 2018 • 11:52:13am

re: #2 mmmirele

Jason Kessler is the guy who is trying to get a permit to hold a follow up “Unite the Right” hate rally in Washington DC in August is having a bad time of late.

Yesterday, Unicorn Riot, a deconstructed group of artists and journalists (as in, “probably more anarchy that LGF people are used to, but they do go after Nazis”), got their hands on and published a log of Facebook chats by Kessler and others who are trying to put together the DC hate rally. It’s the usual swamp of “we’re not really violent” but “we’re looking for Hammerskins to help us” and “we need to get buses for Charlottesville” (apparently they’re going to try again in Cville!?) but “don’t call anywhere near there.” And so on.

unicornriot.ninja

More amusingly, Kessler was interrupted by his father last night while he was doing a livestream with another white supremacist. Apparently Jason’s father doesn’t approve of his son’s Nazi tendencies.

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Kessler, 34, is living with his family because he’s embroiled in lawsuits.

“GET OFF THE TUBES BOY YOUR SUCKING UP ALL THE BANDWIDTH IN THE FKCING HOUSE”

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 11:56:49am

re: #2 mmmirele

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Dave In Austin  Jun 29, 2018 • 11:57:00am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 29, 2018 • 11:57:26am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 29, 2018 • 11:58:06am

re: #6 Dave In Austin

It actually is very bad for the digestion.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 29, 2018 • 11:58:57am

re: #7 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

So some snowflake who’s offended that Arnold made fun of DrumPf went to Arnold’s FB and called Arnold a snowflake?

Yeah that sounds about 2018.

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:00:21pm

re: #2 mmmirele

Quite honestly, the only thing that surprised me about the logs of their exchanges was that there wasn’t any mention of an attempt to get Donald Trump to speak at their rally.

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JordanRules  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:04:57pm
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JordanRules  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:06:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:09:33pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:10:23pm
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Dave In Austin  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:12:10pm

re: #8 Sir John Barron

Well there ya go…… God, these people.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:14:27pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

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That QAnon bullshit is gonna get someone killed, I have no doubt about that whatsoever. Those wackos are working themselves up into a frenzy and whomever “Q” is (I strongly suspect it’s more than one person) is simply pouring gallons of gasoline onto a fire with each and every posting.

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JordanRules  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:14:31pm

His face gives me hope and breaks my heart.

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JordanRules  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:16:21pm

re: #17 JordanRules

His face gives me hope and breaks my heart.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:17:11pm

Because we all need a copy…….. What to do with a MAGA.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:17:31pm

re: #17 JordanRules

Lady looks like she is about to pop her head off and throw it at him.

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gocart mozart  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:17:46pm

I don’t understand how their brains function. I read the affidavit, a guy who was active in the #metoo movement was arrested for child porn and child rape. OK, throw the book at this scumbag.

This proves something something OBAMAKILLERY IS BEING EXPOSED!!!!!!!!

What?

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Jay C  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:17:48pm

re: #7 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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re: #9 Sir John Barron

You know what’s also so 2018? A general level of political discourse so low that Arnold Friggin’ Schwarzenegger (once derided as the epitome of the shallow “celebrity politician”) posts stuff and comes across sounding like the Respected Elder Statesman and Voice Of Reason.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:17:50pm

re: #7 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Arnold Schwarzenegger is more American that the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

I may not agree with him on many things, but he understands what it means to be an American and I’m proud to call him a fellow American citizen.

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Chrysicat  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:19:07pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:20:46pm

re: #23 Dr Lizardo

As immigrants we don’t take this country for granted. Coming from one nation to another gives a completely different view of things.

Most of these armchair commentators on immigration don’t have a fucking clue about it. It’s easy to be all “America, fuck yeah!” when you’ve never learned anything else.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:21:22pm

re: #16 Dr Lizardo

can someone please explain to me exactly what the hell Qanon is?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:25:50pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“empty 30mm shell”
That about sums up the ammosexual right: All shell, no cannon.

These delusional loudmouths really do think they have all the guns. I would almost feel sorry for them, except that they are depraved assholes who deserve all the self inflicted misery that is headed their way.

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sagehen  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:26:00pm

re: #24 Chrysicat

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Central America is very forested, very green.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:27:22pm

re: #26 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

can someone please explain to me exactly what the hell Qanon is?

QAnon is an 8Chan shitposter who’s claiming that he (or she) has “Q Level Security Clearance” in the Federal government.

There is a Q-level security clearance, but it’s in the Department of Energy.

Now, Q is saying that President Trump is secretly working to bring down a cabal of pedophilic cannibal Satanists who have ensconced themselves at the highest levels of government. Those involved in this wacked-out conspiracy theory include former President Obama, Hillary Clinton, etc., and that the Mueller investigation is simply a cover, a misdirection so that Trump can go after the aforementioned.

There are additional claims, such as that Hillary is already in Gitmo and the person we’re all seeing is her body double.

All manner of conspiracy theories, many of them sounding, to me at least, like paranoid delusions.

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:28:07pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:28:57pm

re: #29 Dr Lizardo

god damn. I would be willing to bet Q is a russian just fucking with them and laughing maniacally at how successful he’s been. But that is some seriously crazy shit.

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sagehen  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:29:06pm

Also, Rosanne totally buys into QAnon. She supports it. She’s tweeted that Trump has rolled up dozens of pedophiles, saves hundreds of kids…

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:30:49pm

re: #31 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

god damn. I would be willing to bet Q is a russian just fucking with them and laughing maniacally at how successful he’s been. But that is some seriously crazy shit.

Seeing as how Q is seemingly posting virtually nonstop, either it’s a team of individuals sharing a common account on 8Chan (that’s what I suspect) or, less likely, a paranoid schizophrenic on a nonstop meth binge.

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Jay C  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:30:58pm

re: #27 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“empty 30mm shell”
That about sums up the ammosexual right: All shell, no cannon.

These delusional loudmouths really do think they have all the guns. I would almost feel sorry for them, except that they are depraved assholes who deserve all the self inflicted misery that is headed their way.

Wait a sec… “30mm” is about 1-3/8 inches - what sort of weapon uses that size ammo?
And if the shell is empty, what is Ms Giddings using it for? A paperweight?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:32:24pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:32:56pm

re: #34 Jay C

Wait a sec… “30mm” is about 1-3/8 inches - what sort of weapon uses that size ammo?
And if the shell is empty, what is Ms Giddings using it for? A paperweight?

Traction for the rear wheels of her pickup?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:33:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:33:25pm

re: #34 Jay C

Wait a sec… “30mm” is about 1-3/8 inches - what sort of weapon uses that size ammo?
And if the shell is empty, what is Ms Giddings using it for? A paperweight?

Pretty sure 30mm is the diameter

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Chrysicat  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:33:30pm

re: #28 sagehen

Central America is very forested, very green.

True. So the US (I won’t say ‘we’ until something above a Statehouse is in D control again) may be planning to invade El Salvador or Guatemala—probably via Costa Rica, since that one has no army to oppose its landing?

Why do I get the feeling that this is alongside a Russian invasion of Estonia and each endorses the other’s actions of ‘controlling its backyard’?

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lawhawk  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:33:50pm

re: #34 Jay C

It’s used in the M-230 chain gun or the MK44/M242 Bushmaster (widely found across multiple vehicle platforms (on vehicles, boats, etc.).

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:33:51pm

re: #33 Dr Lizardo

Seeing as how Q is seemingly posting virtually nonstop, either it’s a team of individuals sharing a common account on 8Chan (that’s what I suspect) or, less likely, a paranoid schizophrenic on a nonstop meth binge.

So, John McAfee then?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:35:02pm

re: #34 Jay C

Wait a sec… “30mm” is about 1-3/8 inches - what sort of weapon uses that size ammo?
And if the shell is empty, what is Ms Giddings using it for? A paperweight?

GAU-8 Avenger

The General Electric GAU-8/A Avenger is a 30 mm hydraulically driven seven-barrel Gatling-type autocannon that is typically mounted in the United States Air Force’s Fairchild Republic A-10 Thunderbolt II. Designed specifically for the anti-tank role, the Avenger delivers very powerful rounds at a high rate of fire.

There are many other 30mm guns but this is the best known.

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b.d.  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:36:01pm

re: #28 sagehen

Central America is very forested, very green.

Fake Hues.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:37:08pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:37:08pm

I also think that those rebellious ICE officials smell that they will become the fall guys when we find out how many separated children have gone lost in the system and will never be reunited with their parents.

This cannot be fobbed off as ICE administrative incompetence or the inevitable Deep State Plot to Discredit Trump, the President and his entire party have to wear this albatross about their necks until it rots and then get a fresh albatross….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:38:18pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:38:23pm

30mm round next to a 30/06

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Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:38:31pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:39:12pm

re: #34 Jay C

Wait a sec… “30mm” is about 1-3/8 inches - what sort of weapon uses that size ammo?
And if the shell is empty, what is Ms Giddings using it for? A paperweight?

An A-10 has the GAU-8 Avenger 30mm cannon

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:40:25pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:40:42pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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30mm round next to a 30/06

Jeezly H. Crow!

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austin_blue  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:41:05pm

re: #34 Jay C

Wait a sec… “30mm” is about 1-3/8 inches - what sort of weapon uses that size ammo?
And if the shell is empty, what is Ms Giddings using it for? A paperweight?

A-10 Thunderbolt. The plane is built around the gun, which is about the size of a VW Bug.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:44:35pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:45:41pm

The shootings in Maryland seem to have more to do with a disgruntled loner than to have any political agenda behind them, but that does not prevent them from becoming terribly instrumentalized.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:46:44pm

re: #40 lawhawk

It’s used in the M-230 chain gun or the MK44/M242 Bushmaster (widely found across multiple vehicle platforms (on vehicles, boats, etc.).

The M-230 chain gun uses a 30x113mm round (found on the AH-64 Apache attack helicopter), while the Mk44 Bushmaster & GAU-8 Avenger use a 30x173mm round
The M242 Bushmaster is a 25x137mm cannon

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:47:03pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:47:14pm

re: #51 Blind Frog Belly White

Jeezly H. Crow!

Get hit by a 30.06 round, and you’re going to have a really bad day.

Get hit by a 30 mm round, and having a bad day will be the least of your worries, because you basically become instant strawberry jam.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:47:47pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:48:57pm

re: #57 Dr Lizardo

Get hit by a 30.06 round, and you’re going to have a really bad day.

Get hit by a 30 mm round, and having a bad day will be the least of your worries, because you basically become instant strawberry jam.

It was also toted by this little German tank

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JordanRules  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:48:58pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:49:59pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:50:23pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:50:28pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:50:54pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:52:39pm

re: #55 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The M-230 chain gun uses a 30x113mm round (found on the AH-64 Apache attack helicopter), while the Mk44 Bushmaster & GAU-8 Avenger use a 30x173mm round
The M242 Bushmaster is a 25x137mm cannon

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:54:38pm

re: #64 Charles Johnson

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Ha. What a lady.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:55:24pm

re: #63 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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He really is one to talk.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:55:48pm
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Sir John Barron  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:56:18pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

Sign of our times… the F word is now routinely used in news stories, tweets etc It’s not even F*** anymore. Who made that decision???

— Marco Rubio

Dude, unless you’re subtly trolling your party’s president, just don’t even.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:57:13pm

The Fox business model explained.

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nines09  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:58:15pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:58:15pm

Millennials are much more open to socialism

Gosh, what a surprise, that young people who can’t find well paid jobs despite an education that put them in permanent debt are not terribly impressed with the system that did this to them!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:59:40pm

BLUE LIVES MATTER!

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Jay C  Jun 29, 2018 • 12:59:57pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
re: #52 austin_blue

re: #65 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Thanks, guys (or should that be “tanks”??).
What I thought:
A) Rep. Giddings keeps an empty 30mm shell in her truck as a
souvenir
B) She’s enough of an asshole to imagine that this is going to
impress/cow any protesters
C) Pamela Giddings is probably (unfortunately) a lock for reelection
as her voter base in Idaho are probably the sorts who ARE
impressed by Big F*cking Ammo.

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lawhawk  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:00:10pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:00:15pm

This Comcast outage is weird. I can access FB, Google, Twitter, and LGF. But Tweets on LGF show up just as the text with no pics. And I can’t access the servers at our East Coast HQ.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:02:19pm

Time to call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:02:53pm

re: #76 Blind Frog Belly White

This Comcast outage is weird. I can access FB, Google, Twitter, and LGF. But Tweets on LGF show up just as the text with no pics. And I can’t access the servers at our East Coast HQ.

I once had a Comcast outage where I could only reach IPV6 sites, so I could get to just about any Google site, but most of the web was gone.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:03:47pm

re: #72 Blind Frog Belly White

Millennials are much more open to socialism

Gosh, what a surprise, that young people who can’t find well paid jobs despite an education that put them in permanent debt are not terribly impressed with the system that did this to them!

Given what’s been passed to us as capitalism, it’s not a shock.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:05:35pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:06:03pm

Wait the person who said fuck last night was. Journalist who survived? Really Rubio, get your head out of your fucking ass.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:08:38pm

He’s consistent…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:10:23pm

*SPIT*

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:10:28pm

re: #82 I Would Prefer Not To

He’s consistent…

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That really sounds like Donald Trump, Mike but real classy using your grandkid to make a cheap political joke.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:11:02pm

re: #72 Blind Frog Belly White

Millennials are much more open to socialism

Gosh, what a surprise, that young people who can’t find well paid jobs despite an education that put them in permanent debt are not terribly impressed with the system that did this to them!

We have an odd definition of “socialism”. A system in which education, health care, old-age care, safety and environmental protection are not seen as commodities or operating expenses to be minimized or abolished in order to boost profit margins?

Then give me fucking socialism any day.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:11:13pm

re: #83 Backwoods_Sleuth

*SPIT*

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Melania please go back to Slovenia. Maybe you’ll learn some humility there.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:11:32pm
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nines09  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:12:05pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:12:39pm

re: #84 HappyWarrior

That really sounds like Donald Trump, Mike but real classy using your grandkid to make a cheap political joke.

Nowhere in his tweet is something that remotely can be called a joke.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:13:18pm

re: #89 I Would Prefer Not To

Nowhere in his tweet is something that remotely can be called a joke.

He thinks he’s being funny I guess?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:16:19pm

Just stolen!

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ObserverArt  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:17:28pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I find it very easy to upding almost any post dealing with animals.

I guess it brings a little joy from having to deal with all the Republican/conservative animals in politics.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:17:56pm

re: #89 I Would Prefer Not To

Nowhere in his tweet is something that remotely can be called a joke.

Real jokes > Dad jokes > Huckabee jokes. It’s a whole new level of not funny.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:18:46pm

re: #91 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Just stolen!

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Yeah saw that earlier.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:19:00pm

re: #90 HappyWarrior

He thinks he’s being funny I guess?

He is reminding us that we are born dependent and most of us find ourselves in a dependent state at the end of our lives. He is reminding us of the need to create a society that cares for its people at all stages of their lives and not just when they are being productive and producing more than they consume.

It would be great if we hatched out into the world as fully formed adults, and could be fitted with a basic education chip and sent off to realize our potential. Then we could live the GOP Ayn Randian fantasy of total laissez-faire stateless capitalism.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:21:05pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:21:06pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:21:32pm

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is reminding us that we are born dependent and most of us find ourselves in a dependent state at the end of our lives. He is reminding us of the need to create a society that cares for its people at all stages of their lives and not just when they are being productive and producing more than they consume.

It would be great if we hatched out into the world as fully formed adults, and could be fitted with a basic education chip and sent off to realize our potential. Then we could live the GOP Ayn Randian fantasy of total laissez-faire stateless capitalism.

What do you need the meat-bag human for if the education is on a chip?
/Definitely not planning to kill all humans.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:21:36pm

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is reminding us that we are born dependent and most of us find ourselves in a dependent state at the end of our lives. He is reminding us of the need to create a society that cares for its people at all stages of their lives and not just when they are being productive and producing more than they consume.

It would be great if we hatched out into the world as fully formed adults, and could be fitted with a basic education chip and sent off to realize our potential. Then we could live the GOP Ayn Randian fantasy of total laissez-faire stateless capitalism.

I think you’re giving Daddy Dog Torture way too much credit. He just saw his grandkid shit himself and thought hurr hurr Democrats.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:21:52pm

re: #92 ObserverArt

I find it very easy to upding almost any post dealing with animals.

I guess it brings a little joy from having to deal with all the Republican/conservative animals in politics.

and that baby sloth was particularly adorable

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:22:06pm

re: #5 MsJ

Nazi’s in their bunkers didn’t work out well for the leader last time.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:22:59pm

Can’t remember who said this on twitter, but it’s a real head-scratcher:

‘How do you think Republicans would behave if they won the popular vote but lost the election twice in twenty years?’

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:23:18pm

re: #98 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

What do you need the meat-bag human for if the education is on a chip?
/Definitely not planning to kill all humans.

it would reduce expenses greatly and allow for larger profit margins

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:23:52pm

re: #99 HappyWarrior

I think you’re giving Daddy Dog Torture way too much credit. He just saw his grandkid shit himself and thought hurr hurr Democrats.

He is reminding us indirectly…that was certainly not his intention.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:24:21pm

re: #102 Barefoot Grin

Can’t remember who said this on twitter, but it’s a real head-scratcher:

‘How do you think Republicans would behave if they won the popular vote but lost the election twice in twenty years?’

A damn good point. Only one Republican has gotten over 50% of the popular vote since 1992.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:24:32pm

re: #104 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is reminding us indirectly…that was certainly not his intention.

Ah I see.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:24:33pm

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

it would reduce expenses greatly and allow for larger profit margins

It cuts into the number of people who can afford your product, but we can solve that with consuming robots.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:25:00pm

re: #17 JordanRules

His face gives me hope and breaks my heart.

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Fucking Simi Valley.

I swear this place is cursed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:25:33pm

re: #107 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It cuts into the number of people who can afford your product, but we can solve that with consuming robots.

all we need are producing robots

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rhuarc  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:30:24pm

re: #73 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

BLUE LIVES MATTER!

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And until the police in this country are afraid of repercussions from criminal acts such as this then we will continue to see videos like this. And we already know they do not receive repercussions from the criminal justice system nor, for the most part, from their employers. It’s time the 3rd party in this equation starts holding them accountable. The public.

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The Major  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:31:39pm

re: #78 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I once had a Comcast outage where I could only reach IPV6 sites, so I could get to just about any Google site, but most of the web was gone.

Same thing happened to me with Charter/Spectrum. A Raytheon reboot (power cycle) the cable modem+router did the trick.

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Jay C  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:36:18pm

re: #109 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

re: #107 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

It cuts into the number of people who can afford your product, but we can solve that with consuming robots.

all we need are producing robots

Unfortunately, economic factors tend to favor more of a sort of circular system, whereby you need to have something like:

A) Producing robots
B) Consuming robots
C) Destructive robots
D) Defensive robots
E) Recycling robots to collect the damaged goods from C) and D), and send them back to A)

The only couple of factors that need to be worked out are:
1) How to build in a profit margin at each stage, and
2) How to get them to only do this to each other and leave the rest of us (humans) alone.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:39:26pm

re: #112 Jay C

Unfortunately, economic factors tend to favor more of a sort of circular system, whereby you need to have something like:

A) Producing robots
B) Consuming robots
C) Destructive robots
D) Defensive robots
E) Recycling robots to collect the damaged goods from C) and D), and send them back to A)

The only couple of factors that need to be worked out are:
1) How to build in a profit margin at each stage, and
2) How to get them to only do this to each other and leave the rest of us humans alone.

don’t forget the sex robots who are going to lead to a decline in the birth rate so that we will need test tube baby-gestating robots to keep us from dying out

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plansbandc  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:40:32pm

:D :D

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plansbandc  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:41:36pm

Nature is harsh my friends.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:42:19pm

re: #114 plansbandc

:D :D

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re: #115 plansbandc

Nature is harsh my friends.

Such is the Circle of Life.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:42:56pm

Rubio on the Media:

Marco Rubio

@marcorubio
McCain is hero & patriot. But in 2008 “journalists” who now extol his virtues portrayed him as a madman & the @nytimes smeared him the day after he sealed GOP nomination. Romney behaved with respect & dignity. But in 2012 media savaged him & portrayed him as a misogynist #BIAS

McCain named Sarah Palin as running mate. If that is not reason for a smear, I don’t know what is.

Romney belongs to a religion in which women are seen as family breeding machines and little else.

That is not #BIAS, that is a measured and defensible point of view…

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:45:20pm

This thing in the WH. Fuck him hard.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:46:52pm

re: #117 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Rubio on the Media:

Marco Rubio

@marcorubio
McCain is hero & patriot. But in 2008 “journalists” who now extol his virtues portrayed him as a madman & the @nytimes smeared him the day after he sealed GOP nomination. Romney behaved with respect & dignity. But in 2012 media savaged him & portrayed him as a misogynist #BIAS

McCain named Sarah Palin as running mate. If that is not reason for a smear, I don’t know what is.

Romney belongs to a religion in which women are seen as family breeding machines and little else.

That is not #BIAS, that is a measured and defensible point of view…

Your own President has said far worse about both men you two bit hack.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:48:24pm

Let’s see. Trump mocks McCain and says he’s not really a hero. The media rightfully criticized McCain’s 180’s on the issues and his terrible choice of Palin. Trump calls Romney a loser. The media points out Mitt’s 180s and yes Marco being a sexist. Marco really should stop fucking whining.

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wrenchwench  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:49:10pm

re: #117 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Romney belongs to a religion in which women are seen as family breeding machines and little else.

That’s right, he’s a Republican.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:49:12pm

re: #118 MsJ

This thing in the WH. Fuck him hard.

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I’m starting to think you may be right that Biden may be the person we need to fix this mess.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:50:34pm

re: #122 HappyWarrior

Only if he picks a 45 year old for VP.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:51:09pm

re: #121 wrenchwench

That’s right, he’s a Republican.

Did the media even really criticize him that much for being LDS. In fact, I saw more onccerns rom the Evangelicals within the GOP about Romney being LDS than I did the media. Typical Rubio though. The guy has no honesty at all.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:51:36pm

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

PzKw II uses a 20 mm cannon.

Only WWII vehicles I can think of that used 30 mm were aircraft like the Me 262 Schwalbe.

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wrenchwench  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:51:43pm

re: #115 plansbandc

Nature is harsh my friends.

Dog:

He was getting away, but I caught him for you!

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Winston_Smith  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:51:49pm

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:51:56pm

re: #123 Winston_Smith

Only if he picks a 45 year old for VP.

I don’t disagree. I just think she’s right that we’re going to need someone who understands FP to figure out the mess. I like yourself prefer a younger nominee.

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JordanRules  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:52:21pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:53:40pm

re: #129 JordanRules

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Wow I’ll actually give Cruz some credit on that one. But Ted what do you think it is about your party that makes him feel welcome in it.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:53:53pm

re: #128 HappyWarrior

I just want someone young to be ready just in case. We have to go with what we’ve got and right now he looks like the best bet.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:55:02pm

re: #131 Winston_Smith

I just want someone young to be ready just in case. We have to go with what we’ve got and right now he looks like the best bet.

No doubt.

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JordanRules  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:57:44pm

re: #131 Winston_Smith

I just want someone young to be ready just in case. We have to go with what we’ve got and right now he looks like the best bet.

We’re still 2 years out. Obama didn’t even show up in polling until November and he wasn’t pulling great numbers yet.

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:58:13pm

re: #60 JordanRules

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JordanRules  Jun 29, 2018 • 1:59:38pm

Too much crazy.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:00:33pm

re: #135 JordanRules

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Too much crazy.

It’s overwhelming.

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JordanRules  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:00:47pm
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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:01:20pm

re: #136 HappyWarrior

It’s overwhelming.

Just as they want it.

Do not become overwhelmed. We need every single person, moreso now then ever.

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JordanRules  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:02:01pm

True but uhhhhh…..

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:02:19pm

re: #138 MsJ

Just as they want it.

Do not become overwhelmed. We need every single person, moreso now then ever.

I’m going to DC tomorrow. Got some personal stresses but I can’t let that get in the way.

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JordanRules  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:05:17pm
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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:07:38pm
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JordanRules  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:08:57pm

I wonder what he thinks about all day?

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:11:28pm

re: #143 JordanRules

I wonder what he thinks about all day?

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I hope it’s about his dying in prison.

I get a girlie woody thinking about that.

And about Roger Fucking Stone joining him. THAT really gets me off.

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Jay C  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:11:39pm

re: #143 JordanRules

I wonder what he thinks about all day?

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Polonium?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:12:53pm

I was reminded, after reading about Millennials’ greater acceptance of Socialism, of Tom Nichols’ pet theory on economic inequality, which states that the problem is not that economic inequality is so great, but that nowadays we can use the internet to compare our lives with people better off than we are, which makes us unhappy.

For example, he thinks the problem for Millennials is not that they have fewer opportunities than their parents, or that all the trappings of successful adult life are so much farther out of their reach, or that they are buried under debt for education we told them is the key to a happy successful life if not an absolute necessity, but which doesn’t get them the highly paid jobs we got at their ages. No, the problem is that they know that others are doing better. If they didn’t KNOW that, they’d be happy with living with their parents at the age of 30.

He expanded on this the other day, saying it was the driving force behind Trump’s ascendancy. Trump’s supporters, he claimed, were upset, not because all the jobs where they live went away, or because they see the benefits of being white - which for some was the only thing going for them - diminishing. No, it was that they saw the rich doing better than them. He thinks this envy made them susceptible to con men like Trump.

Like a lot of folks - and I include myself - Nichols loves his theory. But like a large subset of those who love their theories, he twists and distorts reality to fit it. For example, it ignores the fact that most Trumpkins worship the VERY rich, and even the just plain old rich. But they HATE, with the heat of a thousand suns, the folks who went off to college and now are doing just a bit better than they are. And they were all pretty happy with the idea of a tax cut that barely did anything for them, but made things for the very rich a lot better.

Plus, how do you explain their sneering contempt for those less well off than they are?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:13:35pm

I literally LOLed

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makeitstop  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:13:37pm

re: #144 MsJ

I hope it’s about his dying in prison.

I get a girlie woody thinking about that.

And about Roger Fucking Stone joining him. THAT really gets me off.

Upding for ‘girlie woody.’ You crack me up.

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Teukka  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:13:47pm

re: #143 JordanRules

I wonder what he thinks about all day?

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“We came within a c-hair of pulling this off, and I blew it”

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Chrysicat  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:14:51pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:14:59pm

re: #91 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Vast potential there. Decided to run with it:

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Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:15:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:15:31pm

re: #147 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I literally LOLed

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He’s a 30 year old in AA ball with a sub 800 slash line. Wingnuts love to complain about us rewarding mediocrity. Tebow making the All Star team is just that. I honestly don’t think Tebow is a bad guy but I do feel bad for a farm hand ten years younger than him that actually has the potential to get better whose potential is being lost because the Mets see that Tebow gets them money.

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danarchy  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:15:52pm

re: #142 MsJ

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Until fall when SCOTUS overturns the ruling I am sure :(

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:17:23pm

re: #150 Chrysicat

I have Mr. Number which does that. I usually blow them off, but one came in that was identified as “Extortion” - which cracked me up. I answered it, ready to do some serious fuck with whomever would dare call me (when I have time, my favorite hobby is wasting 20-30 minutes of those supposed Microsoft tech support people). Extortion was something I couldn’t pass up.

They hung up, damnitall. I was loaded for bear!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:17:55pm

re: #152 Charles Johnson

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“Why, sometimes I’ve believed received as many as six impossible things death threats before breakfast!”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:18:05pm

re: #146 Blind Frog Belly White

I was reminded, after reading about Millennials’ greater acceptance of Socialism, of Tom Nichols’ pet theory on economic inequality, which states that the problem is not that economic inequality is so great, but that nowadays we can use the internet to compare our lives with people better off than we are, which makes us unhappy.

For example, he thinks the problem for Millennials is not that they have fewer opportunities than their parents, or that all the trappings of successful adult life are so much farther out of their reach, or that they are buried under debt for education we told them is the key to a happy successful life if not an absolute necessity, but which doesn’t get them the highly paid jobs we got at their ages. No, the problem is that they know that others are doing better. If they didn’t KNOW that, they’d be happy with living with their parents at the age of 30.

He expanded on this the other day, saying it was the driving force behind Trump’s ascendancy. Trump’s supporters, he claimed, were upset, not because all the jobs where they live went away, or because they see the benefits of being white - which for some was the only thing going for them - diminishing. No, it was that they saw the rich doing better than them. He thinks this envy made them susceptible to con men like Trump.

Like a lot of folks - and I include myself - Nichols loves his theory. But like a large subset of those who love their theories, he twists and distorts reality to fit it. For example, it ignores the fact that most Trumpkins worship the VERY rich, and even the just plain old rich. But they HATE, with the heat of a thousand suns, the folks who went off to college and now are doing just a bit better than they are. And they were all pretty happy with the idea of a tax cut that barely did anything for them, but made things for the very rich a lot better.

Plus, how do you explain their sneering contempt for those less well off than they are?

Speaking as a Millnennial, I think what it is for us, we see Capitalism painted as this awesome system and so much superior to awful, yucky Socialism and we’re just not falling for it. I forget woh said it here, hell may have been you yourself but Capitalism is great for innovation but when it comes to basic needs, it does lack. And frankly when we’re told that we do nothing but complain when we have a tough time finding work by people who had to pay much less for college, got paid much better out of college, etc, yeah it annoys us. I don’t identify myself as a Socialist but I sure as hell don’t like the Capitalist worship that many fall into either.

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Weaselone  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:18:14pm

re: #146 Blind Frog Belly White

Tom Nichols needs to take his own advice and stop commenting on things outside his field of expertise.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:19:09pm
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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:19:43pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:19:48pm

Bernie’s not the answer IMO because he fails to understand how truly global the modern economy is but neither are these conservatives who think Capitalism is the best thing ever zomg.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:21:41pm

re: #160 MsJ

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Genuinely and pathetically stupid who thinks he’s smarter than everyone else.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:22:32pm

re: #158 Weaselone

Tom Nichols needs to take his own advice and stop commenting on things outside his field of expertise.

Instead, I take his other advice and don’t take anything he says outside his field as anything other than opinion.

I guess I waste time on his tweets because he’s much more reasonable than the rest of the right. It’s like studying chimpanzees - they’re like humans enough to make them more comprehensible than, say, birds. But they’re nonhuman enough to make them interesting.

Trumpkins, OTOH, are too easy to understand. No challenge.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:22:38pm

re: #125 Romantic Heretic

PzKw II uses a 20 mm cannon.

Only WWII vehicles I can think of that used 30 mm were aircraft like the Me 262 Schwalbe.

shame on me for missing that detail…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:24:32pm

The biggest lie we told ourselves in the Cold War was that it was Communism versus Capitalism and that meant Authoritarianism versus Democracy.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:26:36pm

re: #122 HappyWarrior

I’m starting to think you may be right that Biden may be the person we need to fix this mess.

Biden/Duckworth 2020?

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JordanRules  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:27:23pm

re: #150 Chrysicat

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Spam identification is part of some OS and service provider functionality now.

blog.truecaller.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:27:29pm

re: #160 MsJ

Here’s the full transcript of Trump’s phone call with prankster Stuttering John.

I remember him calling up Howard Stern during an interview with Robert Plant and asking “W-w-what’s a b-b-b-bustle in a h-h-hedgerow, anyways?”

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:27:43pm

..

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:27:43pm

re: #157 HappyWarrior

Speaking as a Millnennial, I think what it is for us, we see Capitalism painted as this awesome system and so much superior to awful, yucky Socialism and we’re just not falling for it. I forget woh said it here, hell may have been you yourself but Capitalism is great for innovation but when it comes to basic needs, it does lack. And frankly when we’re told that we do nothing but complain when we have a tough time finding work by people who had to pay much less for college, got paid much better out of college, etc, yeah it annoys us. I don’t identify myself as a Socialist but I sure as hell don’t like the Capitalist worship that many fall into either.

Way too many of my fellow Boomers refuse to understand just how lucky we were, compared to those who came before and after. They rattle on about how they worked their way through college, which turns out to have been pushing the Idiot Stick for a few hours a week while attending a State School which then was damn near free, but now costs 40% or more of median wage.

Me? I got kicked out of graduate school. A little over a year later, I took a job that paid the equivalent of $50,000 today, on the basis of, really, ONE YEAR of experience in a lab, because Biotech was still in its infancy, and they needed hands.

I KNOW how lucky I was. But too many of my generation think that’s how it is today.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:28:45pm

re: #143 JordanRules

I wonder what he thinks about all day?

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When will Trump pardon me?

When will Trump pardon me?

When will Trump…

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:29:39pm

I hate people.

I hate dumb people even more.

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Jay C  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:29:52pm

Interesting piece on bloomberg.com HERE:
(caveat: possible paywall)

The title says it all:

Despite Trump, American Support for Legal Immigration Is Growing

OK, it’s not all quite as positive as it might be: there is still, at best, just a plurality in favor of increased legal immigration (and still a large partisan divide) - and also, the benchmark figures are from the big xenophobic freakout post-9/11 - but still reasonably positive news that the Trump regime’s attempted demonization of all “immigrants” isn’t having quite the nationwide effect they thought it might. (Though caging up babies and toddlers in concentration camps might have soured more than few folks on the Admin’s hatemongering. One hopes.)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:30:15pm

Pussy-grabbing, “fuck your feelings,” journalist shooting Republicans need to learn that civility is a two way street. They live in a world where status is worthless unless it confers a different standard of behavior, where hereditary privilege is valued over achievement. Fuck them and their worship of hypocrisy.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:31:02pm

re: #171 Eclectic Cyborg

When will Trump pardon me?

When will Trump pardon me?

When will Trump…

“Is that guy carrying an umbrella with a poison tip? Does this soup smell like polonium? Will Oleg Deripaska still believe that I haven’t sung like a canary when they release me into the General Population?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:31:12pm

re: #170 Blind Frog Belly White

Way too many of my fellow Boomers refuse to understand just how lucky we were, compared to those who came before and after. They rattle on about how they worked their way through college, which turns out to have been pushing the Idiot Stick for a few hours a week while attending a State School which then was damn near free, but now costs 40% or more of median wage.

I went to state schools, had summer jobs and did ten hours a week in the library stocking shelves to cover expenses. Also had a BEOG and graduated debt-free.

Worked as a TA to pay for grad school expenses.

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BeachDem  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:32:25pm

re: #147 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I literally LOLed

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mmmirele  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:32:46pm

re: #117 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Romney belongs to a religion in which women are seen as family breeding machines and little else.

This is a gross mischaracterization of Mormon women. I have lived in Mormon country for nearly a quarter century and know many Mormon women. They push hard against this attitude they hear from some men.

I’d also note that although Jacinda Ardern, the prime minister of New Zealand, is no longer Mormon, she was born and raised one.

ETA: yeah, this is a pushback on behalf of the many Mormon women I know who are teachers, scientists, lawyers (especially lawyers), etc.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:34:27pm

re: #166 Eclectic Cyborg

Biden/Duckworth 2020?

Yeah that could work.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:35:11pm

re: #178 mmmirele

Romney belongs to a religion in which women are seen as family breeding machines and little else.

This is a gross mischaracterization of Mormon women. I have lived in Mormon country for nearly a quarter century and know many Mormon women. They push hard against this attitude they hear from some men.

I’d also note that although Jacinda Ardern, the prime minister of New Zealand, is no longer Mormon, she was born and raised one.

I lived in Mormon country (Mesa Arizona) and knew lots of Mormon women who were perfectly happy with that role. I hope it is changing, and although Mitt the Misogynist was perhaps overblown, I cannot imagine his views on women differed much from those of the Elders of the church he grew up in…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:35:16pm

re: #172 MsJ

I hate people.

I hate dumb people even more.

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Yeah she just wanted to show them that. How fucking dumb are these people? Sigh but hey Marco, someone on the news said fuck! Control your own fucking party, you fucking fuck.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:35:29pm

“Vlad, that stuff you did - do you keep those guys on the payroll?”

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sagehen  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:35:52pm

re: #153 HappyWarrior

He’s a 30 year old in AA ball with a sub 800 slash line. Wingnuts love to complain about us rewarding mediocrity. Tebow making the All Star team is just that. I honestly don’t think Tebow is a bad guy but I do feel bad for a farm hand ten years younger than him that actually has the potential to get better whose potential is being lost because the Mets see that Tebow gets them money.

I have mixed feelings about this…

In baseball generally, and especially for the minor leagues, isn’t ticket sales or replica jerseys and other merchandise just as important (maybe even more important) than batting average or any other stats? Cause Tebow performs pretty well on that metric.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:36:04pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:36:27pm

re: #177 BeachDem

And heh

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Ha!. All jokes aside. Man Trout is an amazing talent.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:37:44pm

Remember when Jordan went into minor league baseball after his first retirement?

Of course Tebow is nowhere near that status.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:38:16pm

re: #184 sagehen

I have mixed feelings about this…

In baseball generally, and especially for the minor leagues, isn’t ticket sales or replica jerseys and other merchandise just as important (maybe even more important) than batting average or any other stats? Cause Tebow performs pretty well on that metric.

For a minor league club sure but what bothers me is that there’s definitely someone ten years younger than him who has the potential to get better that is being held back by the Mets using Tebow as a gimmick. If Tebow weren’t a former Heisman Trophy winner with a huge national reputation, fans would hate this. It’s nothing against Tebow personally but I really think the Mets are doing a disservice here.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:38:41pm

re: #187 Eclectic Cyborg

Remember when Jordan went into minor league baseball after his first retirement?

Of course Tebow is nowhere near that status.

To be fair to Tebow, he’s actually doing better.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:40:05pm
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mmmirele  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:40:37pm

re: #180 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I lived in Mormon country (Mesa Arizona) and knew lots of Mormon women who were perfectly happy with that role. I hope it is changing, and although Mitt the Misogynist was perhaps overblown, I cannot imagine his views on women differed much from those of the Elders of the church he grew up in…

I live in Mesa now, and it’s definitely changing here. But what’s changing may not make the church happy, because the old guys running the show are clamping down *hard* and pushing people who would likely come to church once a month into Jack Mormon status or completely out. It doesn’t help when your “he hears from God” prophet was born in 1924, either.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:42:55pm
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BlueGrl21  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:44:09pm

re: #157 HappyWarrior

Speaking as a Millnennial, I think what it is for us, we see Capitalism painted as this awesome system and so much superior to awful, yucky Socialism and we’re just not falling for it. I forget woh said it here, hell may have been you yourself but Capitalism is great for innovation but when it comes to basic needs, it does lack. And frankly when we’re told that we do nothing but complain when we have a tough time finding work by people who had to pay much less for college, got paid much better out of college, etc, yeah it annoys us. I don’t identify myself as a Socialist but I sure as hell don’t like the Capitalist worship that many fall into either.

As someone in a highly innovative technical environment, I can say we don’t innovate for money. We do it because it wasn’t there before.

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wrenchwench  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:45:54pm

re: #178 mmmirele

This is a gross mischaracterization of Mormon women. I have lived in Mormon country for nearly a quarter century and know many Mormon women. They push hard against this attitude they hear from some men.

I’d also note that although Jacinda Ardern, the prime minister of New Zealand, is no longer Mormon, she was born and raised one.

ETA: yeah, this is a pushback on behalf of the many Mormon women I know who are teachers, scientists, lawyers (especially lawyers), etc.

It’s also wrong to single out that one religion as ‘the’ disrespector of women. Almost every religion on the planet is patriarchal. Great women have come from all of them.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:46:08pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:47:12pm

re: #192 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Don’t they have anything better to do? And btw I live in an affluent county too, there’s still poverty here. Breitbart really needs to get the fuck over their weird bullshit. Then again they try to make Trump out ot be a populist even though he was born with a golden spoon in his ass.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:47:16pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:47:33pm

re: #193 BlueGrl21

As someone in a highly innovative technical environment, I can say we don’t innovate for money. We do it because it wasn’t there before.

Good point.

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Jay C  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:47:53pm

re: #170 Blind Frog Belly White

Way too many of my fellow Boomers refuse to understand just how lucky we were, compared to those who came before and after. They rattle on about how they worked their way through college, which turns out to have been pushing the Idiot Stick for a few hours a week while attending a State School which then was damn near free, but now costs 40% or more of median wage.

Me? I got kicked out of graduate school. A little over a year later, I took a job that paid the equivalent of $50,000 today, on the basis of, really, ONE YEAR of experience in a lab, because Biotech was still in its infancy, and they needed hands.

I KNOW how lucky I was. But too many of my generation think that’s how it is today.

Not to mention the fact that (for American Boomers at least) we came of age in a country with an economic landscape expected to be one of general unlimited (if occasionally irregular) growth and prosperity: which, in large part, it was. Up until about the Reagan Era, when changing domestic and international economic trends slowly-but-surely altered the Prosperity Paradigm. Which, unfortunately, has affected two generations: the postwar Baby Boomers themselves, and the following generation: all of whom have lived the bulk of their lives with a well-defined set of economic expectations, which are only now being recognized as the outcome of unique circumstances, and unlikely to continue into the future (and this mainly by the Millenials who are going to have live - and earn - with the consequences).

Not an original idea with me: this is basically a crib from Thomas Piketty’s Capital in the Twenty-First Century (2015). A book which, btw, I’ve always thought was grossly underappreciated.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:48:16pm

re: #197 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:49:04pm

I guarantee Alexandria understands life in the Bronx much ebtter than the white bread douchebags at Breitbart.

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danarchy  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:50:13pm

re: #188 HappyWarrior

For a minor league club sure but what bothers me is that there’s definitely someone ten years younger than him who has the potential to get better that is being held back by the Mets using Tebow as a gimmick. If Tebow weren’t a former Heisman Trophy winner with a huge national reputation, fans would hate this. It’s nothing against Tebow personally but I really think the Mets are doing a disservice here.

I think it is a matter of perspective. If he was some other 30 year old schmo finally hitting his stride people would be telling stories about perseverance and stuff. He is young enough he could still have 5-10 solid years ahead of him if he continues to play and improve like he has been lately.

Of course the past couple of months could be a fluke and he may fade away. There are plenty of has beens and never will bes in double AA ball,

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BlueGrl21  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:50:23pm

re: #198 HappyWarrior

Good point.

It tends to be someone else that takes what we design and/or build and sells it, such as Jobs or Gates.

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JordanRules  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:50:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:53:31pm

re: #202 danarchy

I think it is a matter of perspective. If he was some other 30 year old schmo finally hitting his stride people would be telling stories about perseverance and stuff. He is young enough he could still have 5-10 solid years ahead of him if he continues to play and improve like he has been lately.

Of course the past couple of months could be a fluke and he may fade away. There are plenty of has beens and never will bes in double AA ball,

But is he really hitting his stride? I’ve seen late bloomers before. Nothing really stands out to me. If he makes it to the big league club, at best I think he’ll be an average starter. I mean it’s the Mets’ decision what they decide to do but I really do feel that the job should be going to someone younger. You are right that there’s plenty of has beens and never will bes in AA ball but I think an organization like the Mets should be focused on developing big league talent rather than PR gimmicks. It’s their choice though. Just now how I’d run my club. He is doing pretty impressively. He’s not awful IMO but I just don’t know how I feel about this.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:54:12pm

re: #203 BlueGrl21

It tends to be someone else that takes what we design and/or build and sells it, ala Jobs or Gates.

Gotcha. The thing about capitalism and socialism is they are systems. I think we need to realize that both offer viable ideas.

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Jay C  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:55:09pm

re: #192 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

re: #196 HappyWarrior

SRSLY: It’s Breitbart, therefore the likelihood that anything they publish is going to be lying crapola ought to be an a priori assumption…

Despite growing up in Westchester County, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s life story is scarcely a fairy-tale: if accurate, it’s the sort of story, if she was a Republican, they would be lauding to the sky…..

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BeachDem  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:55:19pm

re: #188 HappyWarrior

For a minor league club sure but what bothers me is that there’s definitely someone ten years younger than him who has the potential to get better that is being held back by the Mets using Tebow as a gimmick. If Tebow weren’t a former Heisman Trophy winner with a huge national reputation, fans would hate this. It’s nothing against Tebow personally but I really think the Mets are doing a disservice here.

And if Tebow had accepted the fact that he couldn’t be a pro quarterback, he could have had a successful NFL career.

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JordanRules  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:55:33pm

Lies.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:57:23pm

re: #207 Jay C

SRSLY: It’s Breitbart, therefore the likelihood that anything they publish is going to be lying crapola ought to be an a priori assumption…

Despite growing up in Westchester County, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s life story is scarcely a fairy-tale: if accurate, it’s the sort of story, if she was a Republican, they would be lauding to the sky…..

It’s like saying someone who grew up in New York City can’t say they grew up poor because NYC is wealthy. I’m glad they fear this young woman though. She’s everything that they fear. Intelligent and cares about people other than herself.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:57:32pm

re: #209 JordanRules

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:57:48pm

re: #209 JordanRules

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Lies.

Words matter you orange fucknugget.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 2:58:22pm

re: #211 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jun 29, 2018 • 3:00:08pm

re: #118 MsJ

We are witnessing the nightmare scenario unfold predicted 40 years ago of a multipolar world where the USA withdraws its presence around the world. What will happen is a proliferation of nuclear weapons by countries that once operated large US Military bases. Germany, Japan, and South Korea will soon either announce or covertly develop their own nuclear arsenals because they no longer trust in a US security umbrella.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 3:00:21pm

re: #208 BeachDem

And if Tebow had accepted the fact that he couldn’t be a pro quarterback, he could have had a successful NFL career.

I’m glad he’s tried his hand at something new and he’s far from the worst bust ever but he really is someone who I think can’t accept that he peaked as an athlete ten years ago. And I get that, I wish I still had what I had when he and I were that age ten years ago but it really rubs me the wrong way that his entire professional sports existence strikes me as a gimmick. He’s not an All Star because he’s a legitimately good player, he’s an All Star because he’s Tim Tebow and to be fair to him, he’s not the first or last person this will happen to but I think he needs ot earn it. So much of what he has been from his college years at UF and I don’t think that’s right.

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danarchy  Jun 29, 2018 • 3:09:21pm

re: #205 HappyWarrior

But is he really hitting his stride? I’ve seen late bloomers before. Nothing really stands out to me. If he makes it to the big league club, at best I think he’ll be an average starter. I mean it’s the Mets’ decision what they decide to do but I really do feel that the job should be going to someone younger. You are right that there’s plenty of has beens and never will bes in AA ball but I think an organization like the Mets should be focused on developing big league talent rather than PR gimmicks. It’s their choice though. Just now how I’d run my club. He is doing pretty impressively. He’s not awful IMO but I just don’t know how I feel about this.

He hit .318 for the month of June, which is pretty good any way you look at it. The question is did he just have a good month or did something finally click and will he perform like that moving forward?

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 3:11:33pm

re: #209 JordanRules

He’ll be back to his usual BULLSHIT at his next “campaign” stop. He’s addled. He woke remember he needs to ixnay on the calls to violence.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 3:11:52pm

re: #216 danarchy

He hit .318 for the month of June, which is pretty good any way you look at it. The question is did he just have a good month or did something finally click and will he perform like that moving forward?

It is. I see what you’re saying. Honestly it doesn’t matter to me in the long run. I just think he’s an average minor leaguer who made the all stars because of fame irrelevant to his talents on the diamond.

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 3:13:04pm

re: #214 Rocky-in-Connecticut

We are witnessing the nightmare scenario unfold predicted 40 years ago of a multipolar world where the USA withdraws its presence around the world. What will happen is a proliferation of nuclear weapons by countries that once operated large US Military bases. Germany, Japan, and South Korea will soon either announce or covertly develop their own nuclear arsenals because they no longer trust in a US security umbrella.

Do you blame them? I couldn’t.

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gocart mozart  Jun 29, 2018 • 3:14:14pm
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ObserverArt  Jun 29, 2018 • 3:15:58pm

re: #187 Eclectic Cyborg

Remember when Jordan went into minor league baseball after his first retirement?

Of course Tebow is nowhere near that status.

You know who should try baseball?

Lebron James.

Then we wouldn’t have to go through “What is he going to do?” every three of four years.

Just go Lebron. Sheesh.

And no I don’t hate him. I’m glad he brought Cleveburg a championship.

Hmmm. Maybe he can go into politics.

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EPR-radar  Jun 29, 2018 • 3:16:58pm

re: #219 MsJ

Do you blame them? I couldn’t.

The rest of the world just has to plan for the reality that the US is infected by Republicanism severely enough to make the post WWII international norm of US leadership untenable

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 3:19:13pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 29, 2018 • 3:20:29pm

WINNING!!!

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William Lewis  Jun 29, 2018 • 3:24:21pm

Best piece I’ve seen yet on Harlan Fucking Ellison’s passing.

If nothing else, I’d never heard of the fight with Sinatra…

Goodbye to Harlan Ellison America’s Weird Uncle

I wonder if Starlost is on the net somewhere…

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Dave In Austin  Jun 29, 2018 • 3:25:22pm

I know we don’t do Redstate much here but this really sucks.

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gocart mozart  Jun 29, 2018 • 3:25:59pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 3:31:44pm

re: #226 Dave In Austin

I know we don’t do Redstate much here but this really sucks.

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Swampwitch  Jun 29, 2018 • 3:40:11pm

re: #225 William Lewis

Some clever writing there, but I found myself thinking how very much Ellison himself would hate it. The author kept referring to “sci-fi” and calling Ellison a “sci-fi writer”. Ellison hated that term so much. He said it might as well be pronounced “skiffy” and that it reduced science fiction to nothing but bug-eyed monsters menacing plucky space virgins. He once walked out pre-interview on, I believe, CNN just as he was being introduced as a “sci-fi” author.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 29, 2018 • 3:41:02pm
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ObserverArt  Jun 29, 2018 • 3:41:18pm

re: #227 gocart mozart

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Oh..so we are doing Eno are we?

Well then…light the early evening up…with Brian and Robert Fripp.

Brian Eno - Baby’s on Fire [HQ]

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 29, 2018 • 3:44:16pm
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mmmirele  Jun 29, 2018 • 3:46:05pm

re: #194 wrenchwench

It’s also wrong to single out that one religion as ‘the’ disrespector of women. Almost every religion on the planet is patriarchal. Great women have come from all of them.

The dominant religion in the USA, Christianity, is extremely patriarchal. There are days when I just want to throw up my hands and say “I’m completely out of here” because of the way women are treated in the name of Jesus. The glee Evangelicals had over Kennedy’s retirement very nearly pushed me over the edge.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 3:47:08pm

re: #232 Single-handed sailor

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 29, 2018 • 3:56:17pm
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EPR-radar  Jun 29, 2018 • 3:58:14pm

re: #229 Swampwitch

Some clever writing there, but I found myself thinking how very much Ellison himself would hate it. The author kept referring to “sci-fi” and calling Ellison a “sci-fi writer”. Ellison hated that term so much. He said it might as well be pronounced “skiffy” and that it reduced science fiction to nothing but bug-eyed monsters menacing plucky space virgins. He once walked out pre-interview on, I believe, CNN just as he was being introduced as a “sci-fi” author.

My favorite Ellison anecdote is that he was apparently (very briefly) an advisor to George Lucas on the first Star Wars movie. That ended quickly when Lucas insisted that space ships getting blown up in space be accompanied by loud noises and Ellison left in disgust.

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JordanRules  Jun 29, 2018 • 3:59:14pm

The timing is just funky. But maybe the NYT pushed their story out faster since he retired.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:00:21pm

re: #235 Single-handed sailor

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Drain the swamp.

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Belafon  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:03:25pm

re: #206 HappyWarrior

Gotcha. The thing about capitalism and socialism is they are systems. I think we need to realize that both offer viable ideas.

I think of them as tools in that each is useful for a set of tasks, but should not be applied to all problems.

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wrenchwench  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:03:36pm

re: #233 mmmirele

The dominant religion in the USA, Christianity, is extremely patriarchal. There are days when I just want to throw up my hands and say “I’m completely out of here” because of the way women are treated in the name of Jesus. The glee Evangelicals had over Kennedy’s retirement very nearly pushed me over the edge.

I feel for you. But all I can give you is thoughts. I’m completely out of prayers. I could help pull you over the edge….

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Cheechako  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:08:38pm

re: #235 Single-handed sailor

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:12:56pm
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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:13:32pm

ROTFLMAO.

SO many, many, many options.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:17:08pm
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austin_blue  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:20:24pm

re: #243 Single-handed sailor

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:23:47pm
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EPR-radar  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:24:07pm

re: #246 austin_blue

Well, there’s the Fresh Hell of the day! What a stupid punch in the mouth to both NATO and Kiev.The POTUS is a maroon. Anyone who still believes Putin has no leverage over POTUS (pee tapes, economic, both, or otherwise) is also a maroon.

It’s blatantly obvious that Trump is owned by Putin/Russian Mob. Trump insults everyone else all the time, and according to Trump they are all stupid liars compared to the Truthful Magnificence of Trump, with one glaring exception — the Russians.

Every bit of pap the Russians dispense is lapped up by Trump with absolutely none of his normal contempt for all non-Trump sources of information.

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:24:40pm
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b.d.  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:27:06pm

Happy Weekend Lizards.

Bwaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaaa!!!!!!

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prairiefire  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:27:24pm

This really feels like late Nixon.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:30:22pm

re: #17 JordanRules

Roslyn La Liberte of RC Design Construction is all over Google. Hope she’s getting some strong feedback based on her horrid behavior. Nasty woman.

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b.d.  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:32:48pm

re: #250 b.d.

Happy Weekend Lizards.

Bwaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaaa!!!!!!

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How can I tell if James O’Keefe liked this tweet or not?

also:

When does the audio drop?

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:34:29pm

re: #250 b.d.

Or maybe the White House should worry about its unsecured communications. How the hell did a comedian get through to the President while he was on Air Force One?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:38:23pm

re: #250 b.d.

Happy Weekend Lizards.

Bwaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaaa!!!!!!

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Winston_Smith  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:38:42pm

re: #238 HappyWarrior

Drain the swamp.

Trump’s swamp would cover the entire country one foot deep.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:41:02pm

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

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As long as journalists agree to be penned in like animals at Trump rallies so he can point to them and encourage his supporters to deride them, I don’t see why he won’t continue to call them enemies. He has no respect for them.

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:44:00pm
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ObserverArt  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:44:51pm

re: #241 Cheechako

Damn. Now another new road for Mueller to follow. Will any road ever come to a dead end?

I think he is shooting for a point where what he has makes complete sense as far as a pattern of how all of this occurred. If he still has ends that he knows he can tie to make a better case, he will. Once he gets enough for a good solid unquestioning* case I think he will publish.

Hopefully they can keep any investigations open saying in the report the details are still being discovered and more indictments and people included in the case to come.

* unquestioning - as in people willing to consider the actual facts of the case seeing it as fair and to the law.

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gocart mozart  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:46:30pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:47:23pm

re: #253 b.d.

I posted the audio a couple of hours ago. let me see if I can find it.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:47:58pm

re: #258 MsJ

Trump will take this as a huge complement.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:48:30pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:49:27pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 29, 2018 • 4:55:06pm

Whoa.

nbcnews.com

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:00:10pm

re: #265 Patricia Kayden

This what happens when you elect a con-artist who is also a bully.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:00:37pm
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Chrysicat  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:00:37pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:01:57pm
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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:02:10pm
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b.d.  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:04:27pm

It’s time to appoint a Regent President, let Donnie keep pretending he is POTUS but let someone competent run the country.

The main problem I see is that the GOP is 100% behind this senile, sexist, racist weirdo.

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:07:55pm

This is some thread.

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Citizen K  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:08:10pm

re: #265 Patricia Kayden

Whoa.

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We’ve gone from zero-to-dictatorship in two years. Just…fuck….

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b.d.  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:11:12pm

Can Mueller charge Trump with a crime for giving away the USA to a fake Putin on the phone?

Not sure at all that there hasn’t been a fake Putin or Kim Jong-Un on the phone to Trump at one time.

We need a fake Nancy Pelosi to call him.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:14:10pm

re: #274 b.d.

Can Mueller just charge him with something before he gets fired and the records of his investigation are destroyed?

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:15:00pm

Putin’s Puppet.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:15:52pm

THREAD

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:17:15pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:20:00pm

re: #270 MsJ

That’s the funniest deepest thread I’ve delved into in years. My sides ache. Lord there are some stupids out there

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BeachDem  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:20:55pm

So, is this the ballgame?

Supreme Court to weigh double jeopardy issue that could impede state cases after presidential pardon

abajournal.com

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:21:34pm
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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:21:43pm
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b.d.  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:21:45pm

re: #276 Patricia Kayden

Putin’ Puppet.

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Can’t wait for the GOP to start talking about the glories of American military contraction and how leaving Western Europe wide open was cool. We figured all of that stuff out in 1918.

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Chrysicat  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:21:54pm
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ObserverArt  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:22:51pm

re: #272 MsJ

This is some thread.

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That has been hinted at for some time. There have been photos shown of Russians at the speech. But now some journalists are starting to dig into the story more.

Actually, it is beginning to look like every Trump relationship currently has strange connections and a strong odor of illegality. Nothing seems to be untouched as a way to gain power and or money.

And the rest of the Republican party must be getting a li’l’ taste.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:23:32pm

re: #282 MsJ

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Chrysicat  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:24:20pm

re: #286 Single-handed sailor

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Ick! There’s no better source for that than Russia Toady?

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b.d.  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:24:38pm

Pence has to be better, right? At least saner, not necessarily better.

If Pence goes first who would Trump appoint VP? Hannity?

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:24:50pm

re: #206 HappyWarrior

Gotcha. The thing about capitalism and socialism is they are systems. I think we need to realize that both offer viable ideas.

More importantly they are tools. And in many ways perceptual tools. They affect the way we see the world.

The problem with both systems is that people like to infuse their tools with ethical qualities. Capitalism is ‘good’ and socialism ‘bad’, or vice versa. This makes it difficult or impossible for people to use these tools with care and restraint.

But tools only do what their operators tell them to do. If not used wisely they will do more harm than good.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:25:09pm

re: #280 BeachDem

So, is this the ballgame?

Supreme Court to weigh double jeopardy issue that could impede state cases after presidential pardon

abajournal.com

Trump is a moron but he’s making sure that he and his family will forever be immune from any crime they commit or have committed, all with the assistance of the GOP and the Supreme Court, so yeah, I’d say it will be.

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ObserverArt  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:25:49pm

re: #282 MsJ

TheDevilisRepublican
@DevilisRepublcn
Missouri, just keep voting Republican, I’m sure they can get the minimum wage a lot lower than $7.70. Your Republican leadership thought the workers were making too much money. Now they will RAISE the GAS PRICE and the rent. #VoteBlue for Missouri.

But they got a tax break!!!

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:26:06pm

re: #287 Chrysicat

I just went over to kitco.com and oil is $74 a barrel.

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b.d.  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:26:25pm

re: #287 Chrysicat

Ick! There’s no better source for that than Russia Toady?

Agreed, I get enough RT from Sanders.

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:26:36pm

re: #287 Chrysicat

Ick! There’s no better source for that than Russia Toady?

Russia is showing the world they are pulling Trump’s strings. RT is perfect.

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EPR-radar  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:26:42pm

re: #275 Winston_Smith

Can Mueller just charge him with something before he gets fired and the records of his investigation are destroyed?

Realistically, the Mueller investigation is guaranteed to end in political failure if it’s not done before midterms this year, and even if it is done in time it could go either way.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:26:45pm

re: #282 MsJ

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Thing is, the GOP is largely in favor of rolling back the minimum wage, because only Those People (tm) actually make the minimum wage, so it won’t impact anybody significant. Even the voters who are getting the shaft here will find some way to excuse it.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:27:31pm

re: #282 MsJ

How does someone live off such a low wage? But someone keeps voting for people who hate them despite the constant talk about the precious White Working Class.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:27:52pm

re: #286 Single-handed sailor

Yeah, but at least we’ll get them to give up their nuclear weapons program!

Wait. What’s that? They don’t have one anymore?

Oh. That’s very different then.

Nevermind.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:28:16pm

re: #297 Patricia Kayden

How does someone live off such a low wage? But someone keeps voting for people who hate them despite the constant talk about the precious White Working Class.

They don’t. The supreme irony in the Republican Party is that they maintain their power base through indentured servitude and government handouts - exactly the things they accuse Democrats of doing. Projection writ large.

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:28:44pm

re: #290 Winston_Smith

Trump is a moron but he’s making sure that he and his family will forever be immune from any crime they commit or have committed, all with the assistance of the GOP and the Supreme Court, so yeah, I’d say it will be.

How does this help trump? This would allow Double Jeopardy meaning he can be tried twice. It also means everyone else will be bankrupted by having to face trial twice. And cuts to public defenders will allow their private prisons that many more prisoners maximizing those profits.

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b.d.  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:28:52pm

Wasn’t CoS Kelly supposed to be fired today? And Rosenstein?

I though Assange was getting the boot too?
Lame.

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sagehen  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:29:12pm

re: #237 JordanRules

The timing is just funky. But maybe the NYT pushed their story out faster since he retired.

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Absolutely funky.

“Many people are saying” it’s normal at his age to want to retire, but… last month he sent out his offer letters to next year’s clerks. They weren’t expecting/planning a resignation AT ALL.

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:29:59pm

re: #291 ObserverArt

But they got a tax break!!!

Just got this in email:

President Trump on Friday said he aimed to pass another round of tax cuts by October, according to excerpts published from an interview with Fox News to be aired Sunday.

In the next round, Trump said he aimed to further lower the corporate tax rate to 20 percent. The GOP tax law passed in December lowered the corporate rate from 35 percent to the current 21 percent.

Trump added that other parts of his plan would include new tax relief for the middle class, though, in the excerpts, he did not offer more details.

Details for more corporate tax cuts, after crumbs for the plebs.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:30:07pm

re: #302 sagehen

Absolutely funky.

“Many people are saying” it’s normal at his age to want to retire, but… last month he sent out his offer letters to next year’s clerks. They weren’t expecting/planning a resignation AT ALL.

Something really really stinks here.

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EPR-radar  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:30:29pm

re: #285 ObserverArt

That has been hinted at for some time. There have been photos shown of Russians at the speech. But now some journalists are starting to dig into the story more.

Actually, it is beginning to look like every Trump relationship currently has strange connections and a strong odor of illegality. Nothing seems to be untouched as a way to gain power and or money.

And the rest of the Republican party must be getting a li’l’ taste.

I’m reasonably sure the only honest money Trump has earned in decades is from his Celebrity Apprentice gig.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:31:06pm

Yglesias makes a good point. If that happens, you need a Mandela-level wizard to avoid widespread retaliatory bloodshed.

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b.d.  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:31:25pm

re: #295 EPR-radar

Realistically, the Mueller investigation is guaranteed to end in political failure if it’s not done before midterms this year, and even if it is done in time it could go either way.

Mueller might be waiting for a Congress more concerned with real ass crimes being committed before releasing his results.

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:31:28pm

re: #297 Patricia Kayden

How does someone live off such a low wage? But someone keeps voting for people who hate them despite the constant talk about the precious White Working Class.

There’s a reason Fox targeted rural areas for it’s propaganda. Everyone is Other but white folks.

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ObserverArt  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:32:07pm

re: #301 b.d.

Wasn’t CoS Kelly supposed to be fired today? And Rosenstein?

I though Assange was getting the boot too?
Lame.

How many Fridays has Rosenstein been fired now?

And Little Lord Jeffery was going to resign, when?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:32:16pm

re: #303 MsJ

Just got this in email:

Details for more corporate tax cuts, after crumbs for the plebs.

AYFKM? What, record levels of corporate buybacks aren’t high enough?

When does the winning start?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:33:09pm

re: #310 Blind Frog Belly White

AYFKM? What, record levels of corporate buybacks aren’t high enough?

When does the winning start?

What are you talking about? Trump has been winning yuuuugely since he got elected. Who cares about anyone else?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:33:11pm

re: #308 MsJ

There’s a reason Fox targeted rural areas for it’s propaganda. Everyone is Other but white folks.

It definitely is a lot easy to create an other in areas less diverse. When your only knowledge about PoC is what Fox is telling you, yeah you get brainwashed. Doesn’t excuse it though.

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:33:45pm

re: #302 sagehen

Absolutely funky.

“Many people are saying” it’s normal at his age to want to retire, but… last month he sent out his offer letters to next year’s clerks. They weren’t expecting/planning a resignation AT ALL.

Well, that’s a big deal.

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gocart mozart  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:34:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:34:34pm

re: #313 MsJ

Well, that’s a big deal.

The timing along with the reports about his son. Man it just makes me wonder.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:34:59pm

re: #300 MsJ

How does this help trump? This would allow Double Jeopardy meaning he can be tried twice. It also means everyone else will be bankrupted by having to face trial twice. And cuts to public defenders will allow their private prisons that many more prisoners maximizing those profits.

Here’s the short version.

Supreme Court to weigh double jeopardy issue that could impede state cases after presidential pardon

If the Supreme Court overturns the precedent, it could make it more difficult for a state to try someone who is pardoned by the president after federal trial proceedings have begun, according to CNN Supreme Court analyst Stephen Vladeck, a University of Texas law professor.

So everybody who commits crimes for Trump and gets a pardon walks free.

Here’s the link.

abajournal.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:36:32pm

Hey! My Internet service is back, after being out for a day and a half. Just in time for this afternoon’s thunderstorm watch.

That minimum wage listed up there for Missouri up there is about a third of my VA disability (if you worked for that wage five days a week for fifty-two weeks and had no taxes taken out).

Remind me again why people vote for conservatives?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:37:45pm

re: #317 Anymouse 🌹

Hey! My Internet service is back, after being out for a day and a half. Just in time for this afternoon’s thunderstorm watch.

That minimum wage listed up there for Missouri up there is about a third of my VA disability (if you worked for that wage five days a week for fifty-two weeks and had no taxes taken out).

Remind me again why people vote for conservatives?

People are more united by what they hate than what they love.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:38:38pm

re: #318 HappyWarrior

Excellent answer!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:38:52pm

re: #318 HappyWarrior

People are more united by what they hate than what they love.

I suppose that’s it. Much easier to hate, that doesn’t require facts.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:39:45pm

A little good news.

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ObserverArt  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:39:59pm

re: #318 HappyWarrior

People are more united by what they hate than what they love.

Oh yeah. Shared hate is a dangerous thing. History is littered with it.

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BeachDem  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:40:27pm

re: #300 MsJ

How does this help trump? This would allow Double Jeopardy meaning he can be tried twice. It also means everyone else will be bankrupted by having to face trial twice. And cuts to public defenders will allow their private prisons that many more prisoners maximizing those profits.

If the Supreme Court overturns the precedent, it could make it more difficult for a state to try someone who is pardoned by the president after federal trial proceedings have begun, according to CNN Supreme Court analyst Stephen Vladeck, a University of Texas law professor.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:40:35pm

re: #320 Anymouse 🌹

And there’ are two television channels devoted to hate 24/7, plus talk radio. They make it so easy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:41:04pm

Read Our Hate Mail (goes to Huffington Post).

HP notes in the wake of the Annapolis Capital Gazette mass murder that it is hard to tell by reading hate mail who is just angry and who is a serious threat.

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Chrysicat  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:41:06pm

re: #300 MsJ

How does this help trump? This would allow Double Jeopardy meaning he can be tried twice. It also means everyone else will be bankrupted by having to face trial twice. And cuts to public defenders will allow their private prisons that many more prisoners maximizing those profits.

No, you misread.

What it’s saying is that Fed counts towards State double jeopardy and vice-versa.

It’s a tailor-made case to make 45’s pardons all-encompassing. And if they didn’t encompass enough because you’re looking at contempt charges for refusing to testify after the 5A no longer applies, he’ll just pardon you again for that.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:41:09pm

re: #322 ObserverArt

Oh yeah. Shared hate is a dangerous thing. History is littered with it.

You combine shared hate with the bitter resentments of history and you got a recipe. Look at Serbia. Something that happened long before even the most expert genealogical researcher can trace back tehir roots and it was a big part of why genocide happened.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:41:52pm
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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:42:10pm

re: #316 Winston_Smith

re: #323 BeachDem

Of course. Why did I bother asking?

Thanks.

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MsJ  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:43:20pm

re: #326 Chrysicat

No, you misread.

What it’s saying is that Fed counts towards State double jeopardy and vice-versa.

It’s a tailor-made case to make 45’s pardons all-encompassing. And if they didn’t encompass enough because you’re looking at contempt charges for refusing to testify after the 5A no longer applies, he’ll just pardon you again for that.

Thanks.

I’ve had enough. Time to check out for a while.

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Teukka  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:43:20pm

Damnit, can’t I get a couple of hours of shut-eye without things escalating?
Going back to bed. Don’t move.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:43:27pm

re: #319 Winston_Smith

Excellent answer!

TBH it reminds me of sports fanaticism. Your rural Trump supporter may have little in common in Trump in the basics i.e. how they live life, what churches they go to, but Trump and the right have long been able to tell them “Hey we hate that group too” and it’s how some of the poorest people in the country ended up becoming the most loyal bloc of the most classiest party in the country.

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b.d.  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:43:47pm

re: #314 gocart mozart

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OMG, thanks. So Trump thought Menendez was set up? I am sure that the wingnut gallery suddenly, totally agrees with that now.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:45:18pm

re: #320 Anymouse 🌹

I suppose that’s it. Much easier to hate, that doesn’t require facts.

I think that’s part of it but I think it’s group think too. I know you’re not a sports fan like I am but in my observations of sports and I’ve been guilty of this but my animosity towards a certain team or player really united me with the group.

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meteor  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:46:11pm
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b.d.  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:47:13pm

re: #314 gocart mozart

God I hate cable news, 10 seconds of an actual phony getting a hold of the POTUS on AF1 and 3 minutes of the round table talking about themselves.

I’m ready for a Jon Stewart moment to end this rote BS format too.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:47:14pm

re: #333 b.d.

OMG, thanks. So Trump thought Menendez was set up? I am sure that the wingnut gallery suddenly, totally agrees with that now.

Stuttering John is the type of crisis actor I can get behind. //

That was my first thought when I read the transcript. Trump thinks Menendez was wrongly accused. I’m old enough to remember when he was trotted out as a typical corrupt Dem by the MAGA crowd. Then again he’s discussed pardoning Blago in Illinois and that’s gotten crickets from that crowd too. Crooked politicians, dictators, those are who Trump sympathizes with. Long time public servants with bipartisan respect, democratic elected leaders, those are who he shows disdain towards.

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ObserverArt  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:47:40pm

re: #334 HappyWarrior

I think that’s part of it but I think it’s group think too. I know you’re not a sports fan like I am but in my observations of sports and I’ve been guilty of this but my animosity towards a certain team or player really united me with the group.

That’s because you are a Pittsburgh Steelers fan and it is a cult.

This Browns fan knows.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:48:12pm

re: #321 Single-handed sailor

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A little good news.

That’s good. There’s nothing Constitutional about that. It’s just another GOP underhanded way of shaming women who want to get abortions.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:48:56pm

re: #338 ObserverArt

That’s because you are a Pittsburgh Steelers fan and it is a cult.

This Browns fan knows.

Why I oughta! But yeah I won’t totally deny that.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:49:08pm
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b.d.  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:50:06pm

re: #337 HappyWarrior

That was my first thought when I read the transcript. Trump thinks Menendez was wrongly accused. I’m old enough to remember when he was trotted out as a typical corrupt Dem by the MAGA crowd. Then again he’s discussed pardoning Blago in Illinois and that’s gotten crickets from that crowd too. Crooked politicians, dictators, those are who Trump sympathizes with. Long time public servants with bipartisan respect, democratic elected leaders, those are who he shows disdain towards.

Don’t dare say that Trump isn’t bipartisan!!! He loves gangster thugs of both parties.

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austin_blue  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:50:37pm

re: #307 b.d.

Mueller might be waiting for a Congress more concerned with real ass crimes being committed before releasing his results.

I think Mueller is waiting because, from a prosecutorial perspective, you need to get your ducks in a row to make a RICO case stand up in a court of law.

Motive, method, opportunity. You’ve got to know WHO was involved, WHAT they did, WHEN the illegal acts took place, and HOW they benefited those involved.

Putting a complex RICO case together is telling a convincing story to a jury, or, in this case, the American people, to support the impeachment of a sitting President for high crimes and misdemeanors.

And make no mistake, Mueller is constructing a RICO case of Russian Oligarchs laundering money through Trump real estate holdings to support the Trump organization with investments he couldn’t get from American banks. Duetsche Bank was in it up to their necks, and has already gotten the shit fined out of them. And Kennedy’s son was leading their real estate division when the suspect money movement was occurring. Sessions knew this.

That’s why Kennedy resigned after he sent out invites for new interns this fall. To save his son. If a fish rots from the head down, and it surely does, then the head is the Trump Administration and the Trump Corporations (which are the same damn thing).

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:51:03pm

re: #342 b.d.

Don’t dare say that Trump isn’t bipartisan!!! He loves gangster thugs of both parties.

When does he talk about the great things Boss Tweed is doing? I take that back. Boss Tweed’s thing was helping immigrants. Trump’s more a Bill the Butcher type.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:52:58pm

re: #343 austin_blue

I think Mueller is waiting because, from a prosecutorial perspective, you need to get your ducks in a row to make a RICO case stand up in a court of law.

Motive, method, opportunity. You’ve got to know WHO was involved, WHAT they did, WHEN the illegal acts took place, and HOW they benefited those involved.

Putting a complex RICO case together is telling a convincing story to a jury, or, in this case, the American people, to support the impeachment of a sitting President for high crimes and misdemeanors.

And make no mistake, Mueller is constructing a RICO case of Russian Oligarchs laundering money through Trump real estate holdings to support the Trump organization with investments he couldn’t get from American banks. Duetsche Bank was in it up to their necks, and has already gotten the shit fined out of them. And Kennedy’s son was leading their real estate division when the suspect money movement was occurring. Sessions knew this.

That’s why Kennedy resigned after he sent out invites for new interns this fall. To save his son. If a fish rots from the head down, and it surely does, then the head is the Trump Administration and the Trump Corporations (which are the same damn thing).

That’s an interesting thought. TBH I’m frustrated that Trump’s ties to Kennedy’s son weren’t published. Maybe it’s not quite on the level of Thomas’s wife being involved in PACs that he rules on but it makes me wonder how much is out there that the conservatives on the court have clearly had cois on.

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ipsos  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:53:29pm

Maybe my bullshit detector is too finely tuned, but the Trump audio from the phone call I’ve been hearing on TV sounds off to me.

But it’s a bad recording of a cellphone call, so who knows?

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:53:50pm

Because… of course he would.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:54:20pm

re: #347 Single-handed sailor

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Because… of course he would.

Heartless piece of shit.

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b.d.  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:54:25pm

re: #341 GlutenFreeJesus

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What a family the Huckabees are. When they were re-doing the Governor’s mansion Huckabee had a double-wide parked in the front yard which they lived in.

At the time I thought it was somewhat cool, now my eyes are wide open. Trash, People aren’t trash but the Huckabees are just the biggest clan of tasteless losers I have ever seen.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:54:42pm

re: #347 Single-handed sailor

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Because… of course he would.

And according to his definition, anyone who crosses the border is here illegally, so… Basically codifying what has been SOP for months now.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:55:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:56:17pm

I still think the most terrifying thing they’re doing is reviewing the naturalizations of those who have been naturalized. You know damn well that has the potential for abuse especially with this administration.

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b.d.  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:56:20pm

re: #344 HappyWarrior

When does he talk about the great things Boss Tweed is doing? I take that back. Boss Tweed’s thing was helping immigrants. Trump’s more a Bill the Butcher type.

Trump will be talking about what a great government economical boosting program Teapot Dome was.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:57:02pm

re: #351 GlutenFreeJesus

This does not at all surprise me.

TRUMP “CHARITY” EXPOSED AS ELABORATE SCHEME TO MAKE GOLF DEBTS GO AWAY

The Trump Foundation is everything that conservatives said the Clinton one was. I’m waiting for photos of Trump to be shown in Muslim headdress now because I swear everything is one projection after another.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 29, 2018 • 5:58:31pm

re: #286 Single-handed sailor

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You’re welcome Vlad.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:00:30pm

re: #338 ObserverArt

That’s because you are a Pittsburgh Steelers fan and it is a cult.

This Browns fan knows.

I have enough fan-aticism from my wife’s support of the Chicago Cubs. You really have to be a fan to follow them for fifty years without a pennant win.

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teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:00:35pm
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Chrysicat  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:00:42pm
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sagehen  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:01:32pm

re: #334 HappyWarrior

I think that’s part of it but I think it’s group think too. I know you’re not a sports fan like I am but in my observations of sports and I’ve been guilty of this but my animosity towards a certain team or player really united me with the group.

metoometoometoo. My entire household in fact.

“Honey, is it legal to do this (demonstrates move) with his elbow?”

“That depends entirely on whether it was a Laker doing it to a Celtic, or a Celtic doing it to a Laker.”

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:01:39pm

re: #356 Anymouse 🌹

And many people have said that about the Eagles.

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teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:01:58pm
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ObserverArt  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:02:49pm

re: #351 GlutenFreeJesus

This does not at all surprise me.

TRUMP “CHARITY” EXPOSED AS ELABORATE SCHEME TO MAKE GOLF DEBTS GO AWAY

It never ends and it won’t until Trump is gone. His whole administration is in question.

Now we know why he has all his people sign NDAs and swear their loyalty to The Mighty Don.

It’s another layer of protection by intimidation.

He goes in knowing his is taking advantage of the situation and lays down smoke to cover it with all the rhetoric. It’s almost like he admits he is crooked, so they figure out the best way to make it look like they are not.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:03:07pm

re: #356 Anymouse 🌹

I have enough fan-aticism from my wife’s support of the Chicago Cubs. You really have to be a fan to follow them for fifty years without a pennant win.

You’re poking a hornet’s nest there :). His Cleveland Indians went nearly the same amount of time. The thing though is sports is just in good fun. I don’t apply the same standards I do my sports fanaticism that I do politics because with politics, I know I’m talking about issues that impact people’s lives. Yes, I’m a partisan Democrat but I’m a partisan Democrat not beause the Dems are my team but because I believe the Dems more than any party in my life time and indeed in the crowd here’s lifetimes have done the most positive works to impact people.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:04:37pm

re: #359 sagehen

metoometoometoo. My entire household in fact.

“Honey, is it legal to do this (demonstrates move) with his elbow?”

“That depends entirely on whether it was a Laker doing it to a Celtic, or a Celtic doing it to a Laker.”

Exactly. And don’t get me started on players. There are certain players I despise on other teams but if they were to put on my laundry tomorrow, all would be forgiven.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:05:05pm

re: #360 PhillyPretzel

And many people have said that about the Eagles.

I’m still waiting for the Orioles to win the first pennant in my lifetime.

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ObserverArt  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:05:32pm

re: #356 Anymouse 🌹

I have enough fan-aticism from my wife’s support of the Chicago Cubs. You really have to be a fan to follow them for fifty years without a pennant win.

Ahem. I’m a Cleveland fan of both pro baseball and football.

No need to explain.

And tell her I’m still pissed at not winning that series. So close…

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Citizen K  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:05:50pm

re: #354 HappyWarrior

The Trump Foundation is everything that conservatives said the Clinton one was. I’m waiting for photos of Trump to be shown in Muslim headdress now because I swear everything is one projection after another.

Except they’ll keep getting away with that projection, forever and fucking anon, because the media forever assumes good faith on their part and chases after every accusation they make like it’s valid. And when it comes out that the GOPers are guilty of every single thing they accused others of? Well, it’s ok, because ‘both sides same thing’. There is forever the assumption of guilt and blame for Dems even when proven innocent, and that will ever fucking change.

Thus, the GOP will forever get away with fucking everything because we’re wrong, we’re forever to blame, and nothing will ever change that ever.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:06:50pm

re: #352 HappyWarrior

I still think the most terrifying thing they’re doing is reviewing the naturalizations of those who have been naturalized. You know damn well that has the potential for abuse especially with this administration.

I tried to warn my brother-in-law about this (his wife and step-daughter are both naturalised citizens), but his magic balance-fairy bothsiderist lenses won’t let him see that they could very well be coming for his family.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:07:36pm

re: #366 ObserverArt

Ahem. I’m a Cleveland fan of both pro baseball and football.

No need to explain.

And tell her I’m still pissed at not winning that series. So close…

That said, it was possibly one of the best World Series of all time. Most sports writers rank it right up there with the 1991 World Series, which seems to be one of the writers’ favorites for the candidacy of best World Series of all time.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:07:40pm

re: #192 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Josh Caplan
Fact Check: ‘Girl from the Bronx’ Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Grew Up in One of Richest U.S. Counties

Unsurprisingly, it’s bullshit. By “richest US counties”, Breitbart means “counties where the top 1% are richest”.
Ranked by “median household income”, Westchester County doesn’t make the top 25.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:08:16pm

You have to remember the early years of party politics especially in the cities were a lot like sports teams. I guess that’s part of the reason why I took an interest in the history of machine politics not only because of it was often immigrants way of integrating themselves into a new government but because of how the line between criminal and politician in those early days was much thinner. Rememebr Michael Corleone’s line to Kay after she tells him “Michael, senators don’t have people killed” He tells her she’s being naive.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:09:13pm

re: #358 Chrysicat

Yeah, Ford pardoning Nixon? That was supposed to be a “one-off” according to conservatives at the time.

Turns out once a conservative pardons one criminal, the next one is easier.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:10:13pm

re: #369 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That said, it was possibly one of the best World Series of all time. Most sports writers rank it right up there with the 1991 World Series, which seems to be one of the writers’ favorites for the candidacy of best World Series of all time.

1991 was cool because you had two worst to first teams and then you had an epic pitchers’ duel in Game 7 between a guy who idolized the other guy pitching. And now both Jack Morris and John Smoltz are in Cooperstown together. I’ll put 2011- Rangers-Cardinals in tehre too. I remember thinking the Rangers had it wrapped up and was even giving my Rangers friend congratulations about it and then David Friesse.

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EPR-radar  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:10:47pm

re: #371 HappyWarrior

You have to remember the early years of party politics especially in the cities were a lot like sports teams. I guess that’s part of the reason why I took an interest in the history of machine politics not only because of it was often immigrants way of integrating themselves into a new government but because of how the line between criminal and politician in those early days was much thinner. Rememebr Michael Corleone’s line to Kay after she tells him “Michael, senators don’t have people killed” He tells her she’s being naive.

Back in the day, the unity between politics and sports was literal. E.g., the Blues and the Greens (IIR the colors correctly) were both political parties and chariot racing teams in the latter days of the Roman Republic.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:11:07pm

re: #373 HappyWarrior

1991 was cool because you had two worst to first teams and then you had an epic pitchers’ duel in Game 7 between a guy who idolized the other guy pitching. And now both Jack Morris and John Smoltz are in Cooperstown together. I’ll put 2011- Rangers-Cardinals in tehre too. I remember thinking the Rangers had it wrapped up and was even giving my Rangers friend congratulations about it and then David Friesse.

Oh my God, I remember that series. I remember, in particular, I think it was Game 6, where one of the announcers said, “These Cardinals Just. Will. Not. Quit.” And I was thinking to myself, “No shit, Sherlock, that’s why they play the damn games!”

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teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:11:28pm

Damn. That’s tens of thousands of feet above the mountains. Those are big mountains in the foreground, folks.

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b.d.  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:11:33pm
Trump administration plans to detain migrant families for months

washingtonpost.com

When they throw the entire Trump family in the same cell, Donnie Jr. will get beat up within a week.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:12:08pm

re: #366 ObserverArt

Ahem. I’m a Cleveland fan of both pro baseball and football.

No need to explain.

And tell her I’m still pissed at not winning that series. So close…

That was one heck of a series to listen to on radio. I thought my wife was going to jump through the ceiling when the last game ended. A big W poster went up on every one of our windows. (Probably had a lot of people around here scratching their heads, until she explained it to them.)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:12:21pm

re: #373 HappyWarrior

1991 was cool because you had two worst to first teams and then you had an epic pitchers’ duel in Game 7 between a guy who idolized the other guy pitching. And now both Jack Morris and John Smoltz are in Cooperstown together. I’ll put 2011- Rangers-Cardinals in tehre too. I remember thinking the Rangers had it wrapped up and was even giving my Rangers friend congratulations about it and then David Friesse.

Jack Morris is also taking over as color commentator for the Twins’ TV broadcast from Bert Blyleven. I always liked him. He’s a little bit more dry and deadpan than Bert, but he doesn’t say quite as much inane stupid stuff.

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ObserverArt  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:12:42pm

re: #373 HappyWarrior

1991 was cool because you had two worst to first teams and then you had an epic pitchers’ duel in Game 7 between a guy who idolized the other guy pitching. And now both Jack Morris and John Smoltz are in Cooperstown together. I’ll put 2011- Rangers-Cardinals in tehre too. I remember thinking the Rangers had it wrapped up and was even giving my Rangers friend congratulations about it and then David Friesse.

2016 World Series Game 7.

Almost too good to be true for what makes a series special.

And that is all.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:13:17pm

re: #378 Anymouse 🌹

That was one heck of a series to listen to on radio. I thought my wife was going to jump through the ceiling when the last game ended. A big W poster went up on every one of our window. (Probably had a lot of people around here scratching their heads, until she explained it to them.)

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teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:21:17pm

Gus is so hot.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:23:21pm

re: #376 teleskiguy

Damn. That’s tens of thousands of feet above the mountains. Those are big mountains in the foreground, folks.

Wow, that looks like a supercell thunderstrom.

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teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:25:16pm

re: #383 Anymouse 🌹

Wow, that looks like a supercell thunderstrom… of wildfire smoke!!!

Added a little flair.

Fun fact, my pops got his first teaching job in the mid 70s right at the base of those mountains.

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b.d.  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:25:35pm

re: #382 teleskiguy

Gus is so hot.

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Gus is just awesome…..

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:26:21pm

re: #374 EPR-radar

Back in the day, the unity between politics and sports was literal. E.g., the Blues and the Greens (IIR the colors correctly) were both political parties and chariot racing teams in the latter days of the Roman Republic.

I think it’s still like that in Europe to some extent with the football clubs too.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:27:10pm

re: #375 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh my God, I remember that series. I remember, in particular, I think it was Game 6, where one of the announcers said, “These Cardinals Just. Will. Not. Quit.” And I was thinking to myself, “No shit, Sherlock, that’s why they play the damn games!”

See, that’s what I love about baseball, you cannot run the clock out. I love football, basketball but baseball man i love how it’s not over until the last out. People who call baseball boring completely miss that.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:27:52pm

huffingtonpost.com

Larry Nassar and USA Gymnastics trainer Debbie van Horn charged with child sexual abuse in Texas.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:28:19pm

re: #387 HappyWarrior

See, that’s what I love about baseball, you cannot run the clock out. I love football, basketball but baseball man i love how it’s not over until the last out. People who call baseball boring completely miss that.

True story. Up until a few years ago, I had never left even a blowout Twins game early, because there’s always that chance at a miraculous comeback. (That first game I left early was because it was 40 degrees outside and we were losing badly near the end of the game; it wound up not being as lopsided on the scoreboard at the end, but we did still lose.)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:28:58pm

re: #379 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Jack Morris is also taking over as color commentator for the Twins’ TV broadcast from Bert Blyleven. I always liked him. He’s a little bit more dry and deadpan than Bert, but he doesn’t say quite as much inane stupid stuff.

Smoltz has done a great job replacing McCarver as color in the WS games. He’s a bit of a right wing jerk outside baseball but he doesn’t let it define him like Schilling does. That’s what Schilling doesn’t get.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:29:45pm

re: #389 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

True story. Up until a few years ago, I had never left even a blowout Twins game early, because there’s always that chance at a miraculous comeback. (That first game I left early was because it was 40 degrees outside and we were losing badly near the end of the game; it wound up not being as lopsided on the scoreboard at the end, but we did still lose.)

I try never to leave any game. I look at it that way but also ebcause I paid for my seats, why leave?

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:30:29pm

re: #376 teleskiguy

That’s what the large Yosemite fire about 5 years back looked like.

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Archangelus  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:30:40pm

Think this will get me blocked? Kinda hoping so…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:30:44pm

re: #391 HappyWarrior

I try never to leave any game. I look at it that way but also ebcause I paid for my seats, why leave?

That’s how I feel also. Even in a blowout, if I’m at a game, I’m enjoying paid entertainment (though mostly from the opposite perspective) and time away from work and, usually, kids - though I need to take my son to a game some time soon. There is little point in my leaving early since the team has already received my money.

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teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:32:46pm

re: #385 b.d.

Gus is just awesome…..

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Vlog #1 - Gus takes on Austria! - NSFW

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:33:14pm

re: #394 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That’s how I feel also. Even in a blowout, if I’m at a game, I’m enjoying paid entertainment (though mostly from the opposite perspective) and time away from work and, usually, kids - though I need to take my son to a game some time soon. There is little point in my leaving early since the team has already received my money.

Took my brother’s sister in law and her husband to a game last summer. It was a lot of fun. Both of them don’t really know baseball since in Peru and El Salvador, baseball really isn’t the pasttime. I think they’ve been to a Nats game or two but they had never been to Camden Yards so they got the full experience from a fanatic.

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Archangelus  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:34:33pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:35:08pm

re: #396 HappyWarrior

Took my brother’s sister in law and her husband to a game last summer. It was a lot of fun. Both of them don’t really know baseball since in Peru and El Salvador, baseball really isn’t the pasttime. I think they’ve been to a Nats game or two but they had never been to Camden Yards so they got the full experience from a fanatic.

One of my gaming buddies got treated to a trip to Fenway this past weekend when he was visiting one of our other teammates who lives in Massachusetts. I was insanely jealous because Fenway and Wrigley are at the top of my bucket list for sports venues to visit. Sad thing is, I lived in the Northwest Indiana suburbs for a decade and while I’ve been to Old Komiskey a couple of times, I never made the trip up to the North Side to Wrigley.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:36:11pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:36:28pm

Severe thunderstorm warning just went up for my area. Radar doesn’t look so good.

Tomorrow’s high will only be 73F though, so there’s that.

wunderground.com (radar)

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:36:29pm

re: #399 Charles Johnson

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Laura Ingraham: “It’s Obama’s fault.”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:38:00pm

re: #399 Charles Johnson

It’s too soon to talk about gun violence you know. Talking about gun violence is politicising tragedy… .

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Archangelus  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:38:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:38:18pm

re: #399 Charles Johnson

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1:1 bets that neither of them mention Hannity blaming Obama or Waters but instead whine about people who correctly pointed out Turmp’s rhetoric on the media and what Milo YaknowI’mastupidasshole.

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William Lewis  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:38:20pm

re: #387 HappyWarrior

See, that’s what I love about baseball, you cannot run the clock out. I love football, basketball but baseball man i love how it’s not over until the last out. People who call baseball boring completely miss that.

I get the idea in principle. I dislike it in reality.

To me, the clock is always the third side in any competition, enemy of all players equally. I look at South Korea recently knocking out the defending World Cup champion German team in Soccer because of the clock - stoppage time. A game without a clock might as well be cards or “snakes and ladders”

So anyway, there’s my take on it. Diving for my asbestos underwear now…

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b.d.  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:38:40pm

re: #395 teleskiguy

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Video

I got to start watching his stuff, he is such a great realistic role model. That wienerschnitzel was disgusting though.

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Winston_Smith  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:39:10pm

re: #401 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Sean Hannity: It’s Maxine Waters’ fault.

I doubt that Sean, who was the very first to politicize it, will be mentioned.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:39:16pm

re: #405 William Lewis

I get the idea in principle. I dislike it in reality.

To me, the clock is always the third side in any competition, enemy of all players equally. I look at South Korea recently knocking out the defending World Cup champion German team in Soccer because of the clock - stoppage time. A game without a clock might as well be cards or “snakes and ladders”

So anyway, there’s my take on it. Diving for my asbestos underwear now…

That’s fair. I admit I never thought about it that way. I just hate the idea you can run a clock out I guess.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:40:08pm

re: #407 Winston_Smith

Sean Hannity: It’s Maxine Waters’ fault.

I doubt that Sean, who was the very first to politicize, it will be mentioned.

He blamed Obama too for some weird ass reason. Because you know Obama called the media the enemy of the people. Oh wait.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:40:30pm

re: #407 Winston_Smith

Sean Hannity: It’s Maxine Waters’ fault.

I doubt that Sean, who was the very first to politicize, it will be mentioned.

Of course not. Remember, IOKIYAR.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:42:27pm

re: #398 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

One of my gaming buddies got treated to a trip to Fenway this past weekend when he was visiting one of our other teammates who lives in Massachusetts. I was insanely jealous because Fenway and Wrigley are at the top of my bucket list for sports venues to visit. Sad thing is, I lived in the Northwest Indiana suburbs for a decade and while I’ve been to Old Komiskey a couple of times, I never made the trip up to the North Side to Wrigley.

My mother used to live about a block from Wrigley. When they put lights in the stadium, she moved … because the fans and their tailgate parties and noise and harassment of locals came in for the night games.

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jaunte  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:45:10pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:45:59pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:46:36pm

re: #412 jaunte

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That’s okay, Donald you’ll get a No Balls Prize.

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teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:48:05pm

re: #413 Charles Johnson

Dude, he’s really coming into his own as a painter.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:49:00pm

re: #411 Anymouse 🌹

My mother used to live about a block from Wrigley. When they put lights in the stadium, she moved … because the fans and their tailgate parties and noise and harassment of locals came in for the night games.

Perhaps I’ll make Wrigley my summer pilgrimage for this year, after going to a MN state park last year.

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Belafon  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:51:02pm

re: #326 Chrysicat

No, you misread.

What it’s saying is that Fed counts towards State double jeopardy and vice-versa.

It’s a tailor-made case to make 45’s pardons all-encompassing. And if they didn’t encompass enough because you’re looking at contempt charges for refusing to testify after the 5A no longer applies, he’ll just pardon you again for that.

Then NY can file some first.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:51:26pm

Jon Stewart is ready to negotiate with Donald Trump. (7:55)

Jon Stewart Is Ready To Negotiate With Donald Trump

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teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:53:08pm

Speaking of Gus Kenworthy…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:54:51pm

“Hey, we’re just rounding up random people. We’re not stealin’ babies. That’s those guys over there.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:55:28pm

re: #420 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“Hey, we’re just rounding up random people. We’re not stealin’ babies. That’s those guys over there.”

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“I don’t know nothin’ ‘bout stealin’ no babies, Miss Scarlett.”

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austin_blue  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:57:41pm

re: #416 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Perhaps I’ll make Wrigley my summer pilgrimage for this year, after going to a MN state park last year.

My cousins grew up in a mixed marriage in Chicago. My uncle Bud was German and a Sox fan. My dad’s sister Rose was a Cub’s fan and Irish. They met in a Paris hospital after Bud got a lung blown out by a Tiger during the run Bulge. One of Patton’s tank Divisions.

Saw games at both Wrigley and the new Comiskey. Loved Wrigley. Little band box of a stadium where you are right up against the field.

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plansbandc  Jun 29, 2018 • 6:59:20pm

re: #270 MsJ

Trumpsters really aren’t the brightest bulbs on the Christmas tree.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:01:26pm

re: #422 austin_blue

My cousins grew up in a mixed marriage in Chicago. My uncle Bud was German and a Sox fan. My dad’s sister Rose was a Cub’s fan and Irish. They met in a Paris hospital after Bud got a lung blown out by a Tiger during the run Bulge. One of Patton’s tank Divisions.

Saw games at both Wrigley and the new Comiskey. Loved Wrigley. Little band box of a stadium where you are right up against the field.

Old Komiskey was always a dive. It felt so sketchy. I dunno if it was that part of town or what, but I always felt a little insecure being there. That being said, watching Big Frankie Thomas step to the plate for the Pale Hose was the highlight of my budding baseball fanaticism, to be equaled only by arriving at Target Field to see “J. Thome DH” penciled into the Minnesota Twins’ lineup.

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teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:02:31pm

re: #423 plansbandc

Trumpsters really aren’t the brightest bulbs on the Christmas tree.

And most of their family trees look like stumps.

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Cheechako  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:03:24pm

OT - Heading out for the evening to an Arlo Guthrie concert. Every 2-3 years he passes through and stops to give a benefit concert for the local NPR station. Hard tickets to get but my wife managed.

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teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:06:43pm

No joke, I saw a helicopter get water out of the Colorado River just by chance driving back from getting my last paycheck at the golf course.

The fire is in a very remote area, no structures threatened.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:07:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:08:53pm

re: #428 Single-handed sailor

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Can we give the Brits him back please?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:11:33pm

re: #429 HappyWarrior

Can we give the Brits him back please?

Dude, the Brits are just about the only people we haven’t pissed off in the world lately. You really wanna pick that fight now?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:13:53pm

re: #430 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Dude, the Brits are just about the only people we haven’t pissed off in the world lately. You really wanna pick that fight now?

Ha true.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:14:25pm

re: #427 teleskiguy

No joke, I saw a helicopter get water out of the Colorado River just by chance driving back from getting my last paycheck at the golf course.

The fire is in a very remote area, no structures threatened.

Stay safe, Teleskidude!

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b.d.  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:15:50pm

re: #420 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“Hey, we’re just rounding up random people. We’re not stealin’ babies. That’s those guys over there.”

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We’re the Gestapo, your complaint is with the SS

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:18:11pm
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b.d.  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:21:20pm

re: #419 teleskiguy

Speaking of Gus Kenworthy…

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I honestly have no idea what it is like growing up in a world where you are not away from anything, ever.

Growing up with constant 24 hour social media is something that no one knows how to do.

Growing up is tough as hell, especially tough if you are gay. Social media and voices in general are so diluted that I hope that his presence is getting out an being heard.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:22:29pm

When did NYT make a conscious decision to be stupid?

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b.d.  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:23:51pm

re: #430 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Dude, the Brits are just about the only people we haven’t pissed off in the world lately. You really wanna pick that fight now?

The Brits are too busy fighting with their own Brexit idiots who ruined their country to be jacking with anyone else right now.

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b.d.  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:25:01pm

re: #437 Single-handed sailor

When did NYT make a conscious decision to be stupid?

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NYT has gone considerably more braindead lately. What’s up with that?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:25:44pm

re: #439 b.d.

NYT has gone considerably more braindead lately. What’s up with that?

BSAB, bro. Drink the Kool-Aid.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:25:54pm

re: #437 Single-handed sailor

When did NYT make a conscious decision to be stupid?

Back when they were telling people that Hitler was just appealing to the economic anxiety of Germans in the Depression, and saying his rhetoric was simply to get votes.

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b.d.  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:28:24pm

re: #440 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

BSAB, bro. Drink the Kool-Aid.

I am reminded of when CNN hired CNN hoping to get FoxNews viewers, it didn’t work.

How basic is the fact that the FoxNews bubble people aren’t going to give you money and that they wish you were dead even if you published Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:28:40pm

re: #440 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m also a little embarrassed that I once had to explain the “drink the Kool-Aid” metaphor to Mrs. Fish, because she is too young to remember Jonestown. God, I feel old, and I’m not really that old.

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teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:29:09pm

re: #436 b.d.

Growing up with constant 24 hour social media is something that no one knows how to do.

It’s the newest in new. Human evolution in action!

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b.d.  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:30:24pm

re: #444 teleskiguy

It’s the newest in new. Human evolution in action!

We’ve done a lot of growing in the 5,000 years we’ve been around…..

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:31:03pm

re: #443 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m also a little embarrassed that I once had to explain the “drink the Kool-Aid” metaphor to Mrs. Fish, because she is too young to remember Jonestown. God, I feel old, and I’m not really that old.

Reality Free
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:32:10pm

re: #446 Anymouse 🌹

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[Embedded image]Reality Free

Admittedly, I am actually a few years late to the Jonestown massacre myself, but the Heaven’s Gate mass suicide brought comparisons to which I had to find the answers. I did the research.

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teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:32:20pm

re: #445 b.d.

We’ve done a lot of growing in the 5,000 years we’ve been around…..

It’s 6,000! Get your numbers right! Jeez!

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ObserverArt  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:32:24pm

Probably a Photoshop idea that has been done…but I had to do it, so I’ll call it my version.

The President Don
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:32:54pm

re: #443 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

In my wife’s divorce from her first husband, they fought over a copy of an unopened record album by Jim Jones and the People’s Temple Choir.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:33:06pm

re: #437 Single-handed sailor

When did NYT make a conscious decision to be stupid?

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For one, eh actually has elected experience for starters.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:33:29pm

re: #449 ObserverArt

Probably a Photoshop idea that has been done…but I had to do it, so I’ll call it my version.

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NOt bad.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:33:35pm

re: #450 Anymouse 🌹

In my wife’s divorce from her first husband, they fought over a copy of an unopened record album by Jim Jones and the People’s Temple Choir.

That is possibly the most unique collector’s item that I have ever heard mentioned, and I have seen a lot of weird shit in my short time on this planet.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:34:26pm

re: #453 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That is possibly the most unique collector’s item that I have ever heard mentioned, and I have seen a lot of weird shit in my short time on this planet.

Her ex-hub still has the record, and still unopened.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:35:27pm

re: #454 Anymouse 🌹

Her ex-hub still has the record, and still unopened.

I am tentatively sorry for her loss.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:37:38pm

re: #455 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I am tentatively sorry for her loss.

LOL.

You can get a used copy of the album here for about $100:

discogs.com

Or a reissue at Amazon on CD for $50.
amazon.com

The album name is “He’s Able.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:38:39pm

re: #456 Anymouse 🌹

LOL.

You can get a used copy of the album here for about $100:

discogs.com

Or a reissue at Amazon on CD for $50.
amazon.com

The album name is “He’s Able.”

I didn’t expect it to be worth a ton of money, but as a collector item, it is unique. Especially in pristine condition.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:41:26pm

re: #457 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I didn’t expect it to be worth a ton of money, but as a collector item, it is unique. Especially in pristine condition.

The CD release on Amazon also includes Jones’s 40-minute sermon right before their suicide.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:42:03pm

And now the artillery fire begins as the Trump-humpers that are unfortunately native to this narrow area surrounding the Twin Cities begin their premature ejaculations over the Fourth of July. It only brings to mind sad memories of what used to be, when I was a professionally trained and licensed pyrotechnician and shot professional-grade shows in the backwater hole I called the fishbowl.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:46:03pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:46:57pm

Pro Tip: If you’re going to register your assault rifle in California (and you only have one more day to do so) don’t submit in your application to the State DOJ pics of the weapon with an illegal silencer attached to it.

BAKERSFIELD, Calif. - The District Attorney’s office filed a dozen felony gun charges Thursday against a member of a prominent farming family.

According to court documents, the California Department of Justice raided Jeffrey Scott Kirschenmann’s home last month, after he tried to register an illegally modified gun online through the state’s website.

What they found in his home, led to the DA filing charges: a dozen guns, 230 rounds of ammunition and two silencers seized from Jeffrey Scott Kirschenmann’s home in a gated community in Northwest Bakersfield.

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ObserverArt  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:47:45pm

re: #458 Anymouse 🌹

The CD release on Amazon also includes Jones’s 40-minute sermon right before their suicide.

You can get that at YouTube I believe.

I’ve compared parts of that to Trump at one of his rallies.

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teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:49:25pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:54:30pm

re: #449 ObserverArt

Tie should be hanging outside the jacket.

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jaunte  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:54:45pm

re: #463 teleskiguy

Tell me something I don’t know….

You have more than 60 species of facial mites living under your makeup.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:55:17pm

One of the most harrowing stories I have as a professional fireworks operator: One year, we had the Big Disaster strikes our site. 30 minutes prior to our scheduled start time, rain came. To prevent deterioration of our major investment, we immediately fired everything in the tubes (we had pre-loaded the first salvo) and proceeded to fire the entire show in rapid sequence, not knowing if we would be able to complete the show due to the rain. Unfortunately for us, this year included a complex loading sequence of chain-fused shells, which had to be loaded in order across a sequence of tubes; cross-loading meant that one or more shells would not be resting against the base of the tube, leaving a cushion of air that would cause low detonation. Sure enough, I was in back with the 8” shells (which are individually loaded and thus immune to the problem), while my father is in the front with the 3” chain-loaded finale sequence. Unbeknownst to me, one of our loaders has cross-loaded two of the 3” shells in the sequence. One comes flopping out directly at my father’s feet. 20 yards away, I am powerless to act as I see the shell come plopping lifelessly out of its tube and he sprints away at his top speed. Miraculously, he survived the incident and we completed the show without complication. Let that be a lesson to all: Always check your goddamn loading prior to lighting the match.

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teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:57:35pm

re: #465 jaunte

You have more than 60 species of facial mites living under your makeup.

Your makeup is made from ground up animal bones.

I could’ve said that. But astronomy is much more enlightening.

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jaunte  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:58:35pm

re: #467 teleskiguy

Have you been following the news from Hayabusa-2?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:58:48pm

re: #466 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

If I ever win the lotto (lol), I want to put up a giant fireworks display in my little village. Make it the biggest 4th of July fireworks display in the state.

I’ll keep you in mind for the director.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 29, 2018 • 7:59:50pm

re: #469 Anymouse 🌹

If I ever win the lotto (lol), I want to put up a giant fireworks display in my little village. Make it the biggest 4th of July fireworks display in the state.

I’ll keep you in mind for the director.

In Oklahoma or Nebraska, I might actually be eligible for that position. In Minnesota, I have to have a contiguous record of professional experience. By the time I had moved to MN, my resume was in the distant past, so I no longer qualified as a professional operator.

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teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2018 • 8:00:13pm

re: #468 jaunte

HOLY SHIT! Humans are still doing amazing crazy stuff!

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 29, 2018 • 8:01:55pm

Northeast of us Los Angelenos right now

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jaunte  Jun 29, 2018 • 8:03:13pm

re: #471 teleskiguy

I found this composite image earlier, of asteroids and comets visited by unmanned vehicles. Ryugu, the one Hayabusa-2 is at, is the little dot to the center right of the biggest one in this image.

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jaunte  Jun 29, 2018 • 8:05:26pm
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teleskiguy  Jun 29, 2018 • 8:06:17pm

Hey dragonfire1981. Ugh.

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ObserverArt  Jun 29, 2018 • 8:07:05pm

re: #466 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

One of the most harrowing stories I have as a professional fireworks operator: One year, we had the Big Disaster strikes our site. 30 minutes prior to our scheduled start time, rain came. To prevent deterioration of our major investment, we immediately fired everything in the tubes (we had pre-loaded the first salvo) and proceeded to fire the entire show in rapid sequence, not knowing if we would be able to complete the show due to the rain. Unfortunately for us, this year included a complex loading sequence of chain-fused shells, which had to be loaded in order across a sequence of tubes; cross-loading meant that one or more shells would not be resting against the base of the tube, leaving a cushion of air that would cause low detonation. Sure enough, I was in back with the 8” shells (which are individually loaded and thus immune to the problem), while my father is in the front with the 3” chain-loaded finale sequence. Unbeknownst to me, one of our loaders has cross-loaded two of the 3” shells in the sequence. One comes flopping out directly at my father’s feet. 20 yards away, I am powerless to act as I see the shell come plopping lifelessly out of its tube and he sprints away at his top speed. Miraculously, he survived the incident and we completed the show without complication. Let that be a lesson to all: Always check your goddamn loading prior to lighting the match.

It’s been many years, but one of the local communities had a nasty fireworks accident. One person was killed and two were injured, one of those badly. Fireworks can be dangerous…two Ohio examples.

One Killed, Two Injured at Fireworks Display

And then there was this the same year in southern Ohio.

1996 Scottown, Ohio, fireworks fire kills nine

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makeitstop  Jun 29, 2018 • 8:20:18pm

re: #476 ObserverArt

It’s been many years, but one of the local communities had a nasty fireworks accident. One person was killed and two were injured, one of those badly. Fireworks can be dangerous…two Ohio examples.

One Killed, Two Injured at Fireworks Display

And then there was this the same year in southern Ohio.

1996 Scottown, Ohio, fireworks fire kills nine

The guy three houses over from us blew his arm clean off a few years ago.

Setting off 3 inch mortars with one of those barbeque lighters, and he’d been stting them off for two days. The cops told me that he had a cooler full of them on his front yard. He said if something went wrong and that cooler ignited it would have taken out half the block.

I leave fireworks to the pros.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 29, 2018 • 8:20:52pm

re: #475 teleskiguy

Hey dragonfire1981. Ugh.

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In Canada? What the fuck?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 29, 2018 • 8:51:51pm

re: #475 teleskiguy

Hey dragonfire1981. Ugh.

And American conservatives are quickly filling up that thread with derp … and since a lot of them don’t understand what’s in the Constitution, it’s unsurprising that they don’t understand Canadian laws either.


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