An Amazing Triple-Neck Acoustic Guitar Version of U2’s “With or Without You,” by Luca Stricagnoli

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“With Or Without You” by U2, arranged and performed by Luca on his Reversed Triple Neck Guitar built by Davide Serracini. The third neck, reversed, has an e-bow attached to it that keeps the central string vibrating, producing a constant high pitched sound that imitates the iconic original version of the song. The wooden percussive device on the guitar is called Multi Clap. More info below:

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346 comments

1
Unshaken Defiance  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:11:24am

Love a shiny new Sunday thread.
Triple neck guitar… Not sure I ever sen or heard before. Nice.

2
I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:12:25am

Awesome video. Thanks for posting.

3
jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:14:54am

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

4
jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:16:35am

(It was a friendly horse in a cave painting; the tweeter probably pulled it down to correct the date.)

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:18:01am

All the nifty gadgets on the guitar.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:22:42am

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:22:54am

re: #3 jaunte

Gone. What was it?

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:23:35am

re: #7 MsJ

It was an expressive cave painting of a woolly horse.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:24:06am

A woolly, smiling horse.

10
Single-handed sailor  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:26:29am
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plansbandc  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:27:28am

My fellow Nuggets fans are more than a little bit delusional.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:27:49am

There it is.

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:29:30am

re: #11 plansbandc

My fellow Nuggets fans are more than a little bit delusional.

Lebron Fever?

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A Cranky One  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:31:12am

3 necks, one reversed. And doing rhythm at the same time. Wow.

Some guitarists motivate me to work harder to improve my playing. And then there are some that make me feel like a poseur with no business picking up the instrument.

Guess which category Luca falls into?

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:33:59am

How corrupt can one Trump appointee be? Pretty damn corrupt.

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plansbandc  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:34:35am

re: #13 ObserverArt

Yes.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:35:14am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:38:03am

re: #15 jaunte

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How corrupt can one Trump appointee be? Pretty damn corrupt.

It’s like the olympic games of corruption.

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:38:59am
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:39:06am

re: #6 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

re: #6 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:39:49am
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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:43:28am
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Eventual Carrion  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:44:34am

re: #21 Single-handed sailor

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Oh Walrus Man, Rocket Man is farting in you and your boss’s general direction. And your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries.

Edit, fix possessive.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:49:36am

My adorable niece all decked out for her first Canada Day:

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:49:51am

re: #21 Single-handed sailor

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:51:28am
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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:51:49am
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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:54:03am

re: #26 MsJ

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Awww…poor pooch. What a good boy.

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:55:40am

re: #27 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson

@Green_Footballs
Basically, we have an organized crime family running the US right now. All Trump’s cronies. They’re squeezing the US like Tony Soprano squeezed that sporting goods store.

2:51 PM - Jul 1, 2018

Don’t know if you saw this the other night Charles…I did it late Friday night. It would make a good image to go with your tweet.

The President Don
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:56:47am

re: #29 ObserverArt

Don’t know if you saw this the other night Charles…I did it late Friday night. It would make a good image to go with your tweet.

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That’s another beautiful WORK OF ART!!!!!!!!

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JordanRules  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:02:34pm

re: #24 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh my word!!!!!!!

That is stinkin adorable!

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makeitstop  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:03:32pm

Luca’s playing is pristine.

And I’ve gotta say, that’s the most imaginative use of an Ebow I’ve ever seen.

(Link included to explain what an Ebow is to non-gear-nerds. The Edge used one extensively on U2’s original version of this song.)

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Interesting Times  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:05:40pm

Fact check: truthy :/

Facebook Post

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:10:32pm

re: #24 Eclectic Cyborg

My adorable niece all decked out for her first Canada Day:

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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:14:07pm
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stpaulbear  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:15:18pm

re: #32 makeitstop

Luca’s playing is pristine.

And I’ve gotta say, that’s the most imaginative use of an Ebow I’ve ever seen.

(Link included to explain what an Ebow is to non-gear-nerds. The Edge used one extensively on U2’s original version of this song.)

I was thinking that the guys from 10cc invented the Ebow, but I was getting the Ebow confused with their Gizmo. It looks like they were both invented in 1969, but the Gizmo was never reliable so they quit making them. Did they do the same thing?

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makeitstop  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:24:37pm

re: #36 stpaulbear

I was thinking that the guys from 10cc invented the Ebow, but I was getting the Ebow confused with their Gizmo. It looks like they were both invented in 1969, but the Gizmo was never reliable so they quit making them. Did they do the same thing?

The gizmo was a mechanical version, using little spinning wheels and motors to ‘pluck’ the strings.

When I lived in Philly, a couple of friends worked at a company called MusiTronics in New Jersey (maker of the Mu-Tron pedal), which was working on development of the Gizmo re-named the GizmoTron. It was a non-stop headache for the company, it was an ‘intrusive’ install (meaning you had to drill holes in the guitar to fasten it), it was big and clunky, and after trying to get it into production for a couple of years they simply gave up on it.

There’s a company that’s making an updated version, but it still looks like if you installed it on a guitar it wouldn’t be of much use other than being a ‘Gizmotron guitar.’

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:26:39pm

re: #36 stpaulbear

I was thinking that the guys from 10cc invented the Ebow, but I was getting the Ebow confused with their Gizmo. It looks like they were both invented in 1969, but the Gizmo was never reliable so they quit making them. Did they do the same thing?

Gizmo was way complicated. Where the Ebow basically vibrates one note at a constant speed, the Gizmo was able to play several notes and even have different pressures for tonality and length of the note.

That my simplistic explanation.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:33:16pm

re: #20 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:39:05pm

re: #37 makeitstop

The gizmo was a mechanical version, using little spinning wheels and motors to ‘pluck’ the strings.

When I lived in Philly, a couple of friends worked at a company called MusiTronics in New Jersey (maker of the Mu-Tron pedal), which was working on development of the Gizmo re-named the GizmoTron. It was a non-stop headache for the company, it was an ‘intrusive’ install (meaning you had to drill holes in the guitar to fasten it), it was big and clunky, and after trying to get it into production for a couple of years they simply gave up on it.

There’s a company that’s making an updated version, but it still looks like if you installed it on a guitar it wouldn’t be of much use other than being a ‘Gizmotron guitar.’

I remember reading once Stewart and Gouldman (5 cc of the 10!) tried to work out a deal with bubblegum producers Super K Productions (Jerry Kasenetz and Jeffrey Katz) to do songwriting and full productions of those songs for Super K to distribute as the label in America.

The Gizmo was figured in because they thought they could go for their own “Wall of Sound” that would be great for pop music all done by two guys. Another version of a hit factory.

Don’t know how true that all is. But I do have some familiarity with Super K and their ways.

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Varek Raith  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:39:32pm

re: #19 MsJ

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Womp womp.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:40:36pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:41:43pm

Uggh. Just checked current weather.

93° feels like 101° with a 70° dew point.

Lovely.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:42:14pm

re: #39 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:42:53pm

And here’s the Gizmotron 2.0 in action. It’s more like an automated bowing effect. And it’s huge.

Gizmotron 2.0 with Gibson SG

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makeitstop  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:43:24pm

re: #40 ObserverArt

I remember reading once Stewart and Gouldman (5 cc of the 10!) tried to work out a deal with bubblegum producers Super K Productions (Jerry Kasenetz and Jeffrey Katz) to do songwriting and full productions of those songs for Super K to distribute as the label in America.

The Gizmo was figured in because they thought they could go for their own “Wall of Sound” that would be great for pop music all done by two guys. Another version of a hit factory.

Don’t know how true that all is. But I do have some familiarity with Super K and their ways.

Well, they did kind of work up a Wall of Sound on ‘I’m Not in Love,’ which was a combination of Gizmo and tape-looped vocals.

I could see them writing some bubblegum hits for sure - their first UK single was a pretty canny approximation, with a sideways nod to Brian Wilson.

10cc- Rubber bullets

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plansbandc  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:47:59pm
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makeitstop  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:48:27pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

And here’s the Gizmotron 2.0 in action. It’s more like an automated bowing effect. And it’s huge.

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Yeah, it would be hard to do anything besides Gizmo-ing with that guitar.

You do get the polyphonic capability with it, but it would be like mounting a Cadillac bumper on the top of your guitar.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:48:55pm

re: #43 ObserverArt

Uggh. Just checked current weather.

93° feels like 101° with a 70° dew point.

Lovely.

thunder booming here.
MrBWS is on his way back to Cincinnati and there are reports that parts of I-75 are flooded.

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Varek Raith  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:49:29pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

thunder booming here.
MrBWS is on his way back to Cincinnati and there are reports that parts of I-75 are flooded.

With lava?
/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:49:52pm

re: #50 Varek Raith

With lava?
/

feels like it…

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makeitstop  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:52:26pm

re: #43 ObserverArt

Uggh. Just checked current weather.

93° feels like 101° with a 70° dew point.

Lovely.

I came out of Guitar Center and the thermometer in my truck said it was 99 degrees, and the humidity is pretty thick. It’s not much better here on the South Shore - 92 at last glance, with zero breeze.

They didn’t have the cabinets I wanted in stock, but they’ll be in on Thursday. Just as well - the last thing I felt like doing was lugging speaker cabinets around in that soup.

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:52:33pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

thunder booming here.
MrBWS is on his way back to Cincinnati and there are reports that parts of I-75 are flooded.

110 miles away and no clouds in sight. I would never have guessed Cinci is getting hammered. Usually there is some shared weather.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:52:59pm
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freetoken  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:56:40pm

Either these spiny urchins are all gathering for a concert, or they’re marching towards their dinner:

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freetoken  Jul 1, 2018 • 12:59:36pm

The Okeanos Explorer has concluded its current cruise, looking at the continental margin off the southeast of the US, and is heading towards port in Norfolk for a break.

Next cruise is going to Bermuda. I wonder if they’ll find the buried ancient alien base in the Bermuda Triangle???

oceanexplorer.https

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freetoken  Jul 1, 2018 • 1:01:48pm

We should be glad that he current Administration did not get their wish to cut deeply into the various discovery programs. When Congress did the the funding for 2018 they just punted and decided to roll over the funding as it was previously planned.

But for the 2019 budget, if Congress gets around to it before the election, I wonder how many of these kind of NOAA programs will survive.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 1, 2018 • 1:03:29pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 1, 2018 • 1:05:23pm

Page is up:

Why I March

If someone could tell me how to get an image preview in the sidebar I’d be much obliged.

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freetoken  Jul 1, 2018 • 1:06:34pm

NOAA does have a smaller ship, also with an ROV, called the Nautilus. I have not been watching their ROV broadcasts. But before the Okeanos ROV begins again (in August, in Bermuda), the Nautilus will be using an ROV off the coast of British Columbia:

oceanexplorer.noaa.gov

They’ll be doing ROV exploration in July. They have a website that can stream video (as well as on Youtube): nautiluslive.org

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2018 • 1:08:04pm

re: #57 freetoken

We should be glad that he current Administration did not get their wish to cut deeply into the various discovery programs. When Congress did the the funding for 2018 they just punted and decided to roll over the funding as it was previously planned.

But for the 2019 budget, if Congress gets around to it before the election, I wonder how many of these kind of NOAA programs will survive.

Just let Presnitwit Donny name them something like The Ocean Patrol and think he created the whole concept and all the money will go through.

He probably even remembers the old show Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. He is scared of sharks I think, so Ocean Patrol can “Make The Seas Safe for Americans Again.”

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freetoken  Jul 1, 2018 • 1:15:59pm

re: #61 ObserverArt

NOAA’s proposed mission change does indeed do just that. I believe I’ve commented on it before.

Some are concerned about the dropping of “climate”: ucsusa.org

But to me the bigger problem is what you hinted at, that the idea is to make NOAA into some sort of agency for a new type Manifest Destiny.

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2018 • 1:16:32pm

re: #59 Eclectic Cyborg

Page is up:

Why I March

If someone could tell me how to get an image preview in the sidebar I’d be much obliged.

Make sure the little “Featured Image” box is clicked on in your editing window just below the text box. I think that will do it.

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danarchy  Jul 1, 2018 • 1:18:59pm

re: #43 ObserverArt

Uggh. Just checked current weather.

93° feels like 101° with a 70° dew point.

Lovely.

Not that different from here. I opened the door to take my dog for a walk and she stuck her nose out the door looked up at me promptly turned around and noped herself over to the cool spot under the AC. She is a Norwegian Elkhound and is perfectly comfortable outside all day in sub zero temperatures. I feel so bad for her on days like this.

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Interesting Times  Jul 1, 2018 • 1:19:34pm

re: #19 MsJ

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 1, 2018 • 1:20:16pm

re: #61 ObserverArt

Just let Presnitwit Donny name them something like The Ocean Patrol and think he created the whole concept and all the money will go through.

He probably even remembers the old show Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. He is scared of sharks I think, so Ocean Patrol can “Make The Seas Safe for Americans Again.”

We’re overdue for a summer like 1916:

Close to Shore: The Terrifying Shark Attacks of 1916

That’d get Donny in a proper lather.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 1:25:25pm

i really hate him

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 1, 2018 • 1:26:33pm

re: #61 ObserverArt

Just let Presnitwit Donny name them something like The Ocean Patrol and think he created the whole concept and all the money will go through.

He probably even remembers the old show Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. He is scared of sharks I think, so Ocean Patrol can “Make The Seas Safe for Americans Again.”

I used to watch Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea all the time. In my family we always referred to it by the abbreviation from the TV program in the P-I: “Voyage to Sea Bot.”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2018 • 1:27:22pm

Hey folks, it’s FOOD TIME!

Friend tempts me with this picture of the famous Chicken Parmigiana served at Dan Tana’s in West Hollywood!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 1:32:13pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 1, 2018 • 1:34:15pm

re: #63 ObserverArt

Make sure the little “Featured Image” box is clicked on in your editing window just below the text box. I think that will do it.

Ah! I knew it was something easy. Thanks!

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 1, 2018 • 1:34:23pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is so cute. :)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2018 • 1:34:57pm

re: #68 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I used to watch Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea all the time. In my family we always referred to it by the abbreviation from the TV program in the P-I: “Voyage to Sea Bot.”

Ah memories!

For 5 years, Sunday Nights at 7 was Irwin Allen time. When it was originally running each family member guessed how many times the “Rock and Roll” sequence would occur in that episode.

And this was my favorite episode where Admiral Nelson meets…THE LOBSTER MAN and of course it starts with a “Rock and Roll” sequence!

dailymotion.com

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 1, 2018 • 1:41:40pm

A 21(+) hour thread from JJ

2 dozen tweets behind the clicker

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 1, 2018 • 1:52:52pm

re: #74 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

A 21(+) hour thread from JJ

And, if you get through that, JJ is always thinking about you.

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William Lewis  Jul 1, 2018 • 1:53:40pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

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Doing one riffing on The Manchurian Candidate might be even more accurate though…

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 1, 2018 • 2:07:23pm

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 1, 2018 • 2:18:39pm

re: #43 ObserverArt

re: #64 danarchy

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

The local NWS office in Mt Holly, NJ front page says it all:
weather.gov

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Interesting Times  Jul 1, 2018 • 2:20:01pm

Holy crap, buy a lotto ticket - Meet the Chuck had more Democrats than GOPers as guests!

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BigPapa  Jul 1, 2018 • 2:23:31pm

So my wife left me alone for the day and I’m trying to get in trouble. Watching Gutfeld on Fox. It’s like a video version of AM radio. Pretty much talking about liberals.

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SteelPH  Jul 1, 2018 • 2:24:17pm

re: #79 Interesting Times

Holy crap, buy a lotto ticket - Meet the Chuck had more Democrats than GOPers as guests!

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DUN DUN DUUUUN!!! (Dramatic Sound Effect)

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Interesting Times  Jul 1, 2018 • 2:29:08pm

Is it bad that, for a second or two, I wasn’t even sure which one he was talking about? :o

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 2:29:51pm

re: #82 Interesting Times

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Is it bad that, for a second or two, I wasn’t even sure which one he was talking about? :o

We warned these assholes.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 1, 2018 • 2:35:32pm

re: #82 Interesting Times

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Is it bad that, for a second or two, I wasn’t even sure which one he was talking about? :o

I suspect that was Congressman Lieu’s intent.

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2018 • 2:41:27pm

re: #69 Joe Bacon 🌹

Hey folks, it’s FOOD TIME!

Friend tempts me with this picture of the famous Chicken Parmigiana served at Dan Tana’s in West Hollywood!

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OMG! I’m drooling. That looks so so so good.

That’s the biggest piece of chicken I’ve ever seen.

I’m. Drooling.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2018 • 2:51:10pm

re: #85 MsJ

OMG! I’m drooling. That looks so so so good.

That’s the biggest piece of chicken I’ve ever seen.

I’m. Drooling.

Dan Tana’s is a West Hollywood landmark. And if you like their Chicken Parm, this is their famous Dabney Coleman New York Steak!

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 1, 2018 • 2:54:15pm

re: #86 Joe Bacon 🌹

That is a beautiful piece of steak. I too am drooling.

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:00:09pm

re: #86 Joe Bacon 🌹

Dan Tana’s is a West Hollywood landmark. And if you like their Chicken Parm, this is their famous Dabney Coleman New York Steak!

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Perfection! We’re grilling steaks now. I hope they wind up looking just like that!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:16:23pm

re: #86 Joe Bacon 🌹

Dan Tana’s is a West Hollywood landmark. And if you like their Chicken Parm, this is their famous Dabney Coleman New York Steak!

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That needs to cook longer. A lot longer.
The only red I want on my steak is the cheap catsup it’s slathered in!

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:19:16pm

Today in immigrants making a difference.

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allegro  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:22:49pm

re: #89 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

That needs to cook longer. A lot longer.
The only red I want on my steak is the cheap catsup it’s slathered in!

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allegro  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:23:06pm

re: #91 allegro

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well darn that didn’t work

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:24:18pm

re: #89 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

That needs to cook longer. A lot longer.
The only red I want on my steak is the cheap catsup it’s slathered in!

If Dad were still alive he would scream BLASPHEMY on anyone who put catsup or ketchup on a steak.

When Dad worked at the Charleston Navy Yards during World War 2, a British officer introduced him to HP sauce. Dad was hooked on it with the very first bite of a steak “carefully caressed with the elixir of the Gods”…

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allegro  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:24:33pm

How to do giphy gifs, please?

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:25:17pm

re: #89 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

That needs to cook longer. A lot longer.
The only red I want on my steak is the cheap catsup it’s slathered in!

This is a bad comment and you should feel bad.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:28:32pm

Just when you think you’ve already seen the most outlandish Trump admin claim….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:29:42pm

re: #96 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Just when you think you’ve already seen the most outlandish Trump admin claim….

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250,000 in South Carolina, perhaps…

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:31:29pm

re: #96 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Just when you think you’ve already seen the most outlandish Trump admin claim….

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IF THEY HAVE REFRIGERATORS & TV’S THEY’RE NOT LIVING IN POVERTY!! SOME OF ‘EM EVEN HAVE AIR CONDITIONERS!! WE HAS TEH RICHEST POORS IN TEH WHOLE WORLD!!!1!!!

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:32:26pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:32:59pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

250,000 in South Carolina, perhaps…

“New federal data show 319,063 West Virginians living below the poverty line last year, a 17.9 percent rate unchanged from the year before and’ slightly lower than a measured peak in 2011. Sept.Sep 14, 2017”

And I doubt it has fallen by much, if any, over the last year. One state.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:33:38pm

re: #92 allegro

well darn that didn’t work

It’s the thought that counts

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:34:12pm

re: #96 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Citing a recent survey of American households, Heritage found only 0.08 percent of American households (or about to 250,000) are in “deep poverty,” defined by Heritage as living on less than $4 a day. This statistic does account for government social spending programs that help the poor — like Medicaid, food stamps, and housing assistance — while the figure cited by the U.N. does not.

“No one likes the official poverty measure because it doesn’t count the enormous assistance we provide low-income Americans,” said Robert Doar, a conservative scholar at the American Enterprise Institute think tank. “It makes you think they have very little — that they have nothing — when in fact that’s not true.”

AEI doesn’t think they’re poor because of the assistance they’re lobbying to take away.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:34:14pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:34:18pm
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jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:34:37pm

“True The Poor”

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:35:21pm

Heritage thinks people living on $5 a day aren’t poor.

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freetoken  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:35:31pm

re: #103 Joe Bacon 🌹

The original of that showed up in my Facebook stream. So tempted to put up the corrected version.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:36:14pm

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wasn’t his father born in NY?

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:39:01pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

Wasn’t his father born in NY?

Kenya?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:39:33pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

Wasn’t his father born in NY?

On Long Island no less. His mother was born in Scotland though

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Winston_Smith  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:39:57pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

Wasn’t his father born in NY?

Was there a European Union 100 years ago? He’s a moron, doesn’t have a clue what he’s saying, and nobody seems to care.

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:44:01pm

re: #89 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

That needs to cook longer. A lot longer.
The only red I want on my steak is the cheap catsup it’s slathered in!

🤢🤢🤢🤢…🤮

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Teukka  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:47:27pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:53:16pm

re: #106 jaunte

Heritage thinks people living on $5 a day aren’t poor.

…because they can still feast on ramen noodles twice a day…

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 3:54:43pm

Conservatism: petty, oppressive viciousness by policy.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 4:00:44pm

“…In a White House meeting to discuss the bill earlier this year, Legislative Affairs Director Marc Short bluntly told Navarro the bill was “dead on arrival” and would receive zero support on Capitol Hill, according to sources familiar with the exchange.
Navarro replied to Short that he thought the bill would get plenty of support, particularly from Democrats, but Short told Navarro he didn’t think Democrats were in much of a mood to hand over more authority to Trump.”

How did Peter Navarro become such an idiot?

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 1, 2018 • 4:02:11pm

We had a slow start to summer this year in Northern California but fire season is finally here.

smokey skies

our two main fires at the moment…

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jul 1, 2018 • 4:02:33pm

re: #96 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“Republicans moan and Republicans bitch;
Our rich are too poor, and our poor are too rich.”

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2018 • 4:06:26pm

Russians can’t spell “familes”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 1, 2018 • 4:11:20pm

re: #112 MsJ

🤢🤢🤢🤢…🤮

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 4:11:30pm

re: #111 Winston_Smith

Was there a European Union 100 years ago? He’s a moron, doesn’t have a clue what he’s saying, and nobody seems to care.

Exactly

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Teukka  Jul 1, 2018 • 4:11:43pm

So I saw this…

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 1, 2018 • 4:22:33pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 1, 2018 • 4:23:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 4:24:54pm

re: #123 Patricia Kayden

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What a lady.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jul 1, 2018 • 4:25:59pm

Happy Canada Day!

At least there’s one holiday to celebrate this week…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 1, 2018 • 4:27:10pm

re: #96 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Just when you think you’ve already seen the most outlandish Trump admin claim….

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Trump statistics exclude minorities because they aren’t real Americans anyway.

Half //

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 4:33:24pm

the moron just retweeted this:

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2018 • 4:36:48pm

re: #120 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Doooood.

No.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 4:37:28pm

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

the moron just retweeted this:

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Or people make mistakes. I’m sure you’ve made mistakes too Larry that didn’t get you fired.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 1, 2018 • 4:39:33pm
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jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 4:45:27pm

Still 94° here near Round Top TX at 6:45.
A raccoon came out of hiding and took a dip in the lake, and is now walking along the opposite shoreline with just his face out of the water.

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freetoken  Jul 1, 2018 • 4:51:35pm

America, 2018:

Make Worship Patriotic Again? The Top 10 Songs for Fourth of July Services

At Sunday services this weekend, churches across the country will direct congregants to flip to the section of classic patriotic songs in their hymnals or display lyrics to more recent nation-centric tunes like Lee Greenwood’s “God Bless the USA,” Chris Tomlin’s “America,” or even “Make America Great Again,” a song composed at First Baptist Church of Dallas using President Trump’s famous slogan.

Despite ongoing concerns over conflating worship of God with worship of country, the majority of churches in the United States mark the Fourth of July in song—a tradition that in some places goes back to the years surrounding America’s first Independence Day.

[…]

So much concern

[…]

Most Americans—especially evangelicals—continue to believe, as many of the songs imply, that America has a special relationship with God.

While a majority of Protestant pastors (61%) believe it’s important to celebrate the country around July 4, they also recognize the tensions at hand. A 2016 LifeWay survey found that a little over half say their congregation sometimes seems to love America more than God.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 1, 2018 • 4:55:47pm

re: #133 freetoken

There are more details in my page but I was pleasantly surprised to see the number of fellow Christians marching with us yesterday. We even had two clergy members in our group.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 4:57:04pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2018 • 4:57:23pm

I’ve played Luca’s video multiple times and I’m just in awe by his incredible ability!

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freetoken  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:00:09pm

Update on the Southern Baptists and their continuing Paige Patterson problem:

Seems the deep pocket fundamentalists who are Patterson backers are threatening to cut off funding to SWBTS unless the executive committee which brushed Patterson out the door makes amends to Patterson:

documentcloud.org

and SBC Seminary’s Top Donors Cut Financial Support, Demand Investigation Into Paige Patterson Firing

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:00:20pm

re: #135 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dios mio

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:00:24pm

re: #135 Backwoods_Sleuth

The study gave participants six options: Taco Bell, Chipotle, Moe’s Southwest Grill, Qdoba, Baja Fresh, and Del Taco, Delish reports.

I’ve only eaten at the first two.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:01:31pm

re: #131 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Love the roof colors…..

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:01:53pm

Just back from seeing Sicario. Good not great. And I’m not at all with those that see a Trump message in there. That’s an ad hoc overlay.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:02:48pm

re: #139 jaunte

I’ve only eaten at the first two.

Moe’s and Baja Fresh aren’t bad. I really like the place next to my office. Much more variety in food and a friendly staff too.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:03:07pm
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William Lewis  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:03:43pm

re: #133 freetoken

America, 2018:

Make Worship Patriotic Again? The Top 10 Songs for Fourth of July Services

So much concern

You know what? We did a lessons and carols (just like Christmas) service today. But the lessons were from John Adams, Chief Seattle, Fredrick Douglas, Abraham Lincoln, Robert Kennedy about the wrongs we have done, the hurts we still need to heal and the power of hope. Patriotism, in the best and only decent sense of the word, something to be fought for by the radical. So that tomorrow can be a better place for all of us.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:04:04pm

re: #132 jaunte

Still 94° here near Round Top TX at 6:45.
A raccoon came out of hiding and took a dip in the lake, and is now walking along the opposite shoreline with just his face out of the water.

I don’t trust ANY raccoon out in the daytime. Stay Frosty

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:04:05pm

re: #143 jaunte

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America First huh. Oh they meant enraged conservative whites first and only.

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Belafon  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:04:13pm

re: #139 jaunte

I’ve only eaten at the first two.

Of the three I have eaten at, Taco Bell, Chipotle, and Qdoba, I would pick Qdoba.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:05:18pm

re: #145 Dave In Austin

I think he just got too hot to wait until dark. They usually come at night to eat the freshwater mussels.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:05:18pm

re: #147 Belafon

Of the three I have eaten at, Taco Bell, Chipotle, and Qdoba, I would pick Qdoba.

Is that local to your neck of the woods? I TBH avoid chains when I can but I do like Five Guys for burgers.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:06:09pm

If Taco Bell is Mexican food, I’d like to show you my dog.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:06:57pm

re: #139 jaunte

I’ve only eaten at the first two.

Do they have Taco Time anywhere else? They’re better than Taco Bell, which we didn’t get till the…late 70s, maybe.

Edit: I’ve never even heard of three of them, and have only heard of Del Taco on TV shows.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:07:05pm

The last Taco Bell I had lunch in was in Oregon.

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Winston_Smith  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:07:12pm
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Belafon  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:07:43pm

re: #149 HappyWarrior

Is that local to your neck of the woods? I TBH avoid chains when I can but I do like Five Guys for burgers.

I’ve seen them here in DFW, but there’s one around Chicago I ate at a few years ago and one at the edge of the university of Kentucky campus.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:08:56pm

re: #151 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I see three on the far western fringes of Houston, but they’re not in my usual lunch range.

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Belafon  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:09:23pm

I noticed they left Taco Bueno off the list, which was voted best Mexican restaurant last year, probably a survey by a different group.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:09:37pm

re: #154 Belafon

I’ve seen them here in DFW, but there’s one around Chicago I ate at a few years ago and one at the edge of the university of Kentucky campus.

Ah ok. Did some google-fu. They exist around here. We have a local chain called Rio Grande I like.

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jeffreyw  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:09:59pm

re: #145 Dave In Austin

I don’t trust ANY raccoon out in the daytime. Stay Frosty

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Hey! I resemble that remark!

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:10:35pm

Worst Mexican food spots I ever experienced: a tie between Miami and Ciudad Juarez.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:10:58pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:11:19pm

re: #19 MsJ

Now that’s what I’m talking about when I call for public shaming to come back. Lie down with mangy dogs and wake up with fleas motherfu…

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:17:34pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:18:00pm

re: #145 Dave In Austin

I don’t trust ANY raccoon out in the daytime. Stay Frosty

And it’s been unseasonably cool here in Los Angeles. Been in the 70s rarely in the 80s. Now looking at the latest 10 day forecast and they are finally heating up. Model shows we will be in the 100’s next Saturday.

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plansbandc  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:19:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:20:45pm
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lawhawk  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:21:48pm

re: #131 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

North Korea knows that the future to their missile program is to go solid rocket booster.

It allows more flexibility, quicker responses, etc., and it’s the same trajectory in development that both the US and Russia have made over the past 70 years of missile development.

Of course, Trump and his know nothing advisers still think North Korea is denuclearizing, when the opposite is occurring. Trump got played and he doesn’t even realize it.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:21:59pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:22:25pm

re: #147 Belafon

Of the three I have eaten at, Taco Bell, Chipotle, and Qdoba, I would pick Qdoba.

Agreed. Qdoba is the best of the three. I haven’t gone into a Chipotle since several coworkers got sick after eating at the one nearest my office.

It’s been interesting to see the number of Taco Bells that have closed in the Los Angeles area.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:23:05pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:23:09pm

re: #141 Unshaken Defiance

Just back from seeing Sicario. Good not great. And I’m not at all with those that see a Trump message in there. That’s an ad hoc overlay.

I disagree, the opening scenes totally feed into the worst Trumpist fears over border security and terrorism. The fact that three quarters of the way through the movie Catherine Keener’s character discloses that the actual facts underpinning one of those scenes “changes the narrative” doesn’t do anything meaningful to reduce the festering toxicity.

The cinematography and editing was okay but the way it presents Mexico as an intractably broken, hopeless alien malignancy that the US has no real ethical responsibility for and can justifiably manipulate and destabilize further was tired, despicable, amoral and utterly indefensible.

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lawhawk  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:24:48pm

re: #139 jaunte

The study gave participants six options: Taco Bell, Chipotle, Moe’s Southwest Grill, Qdoba, Baja Fresh, and Del Taco, Delish reports.

I’ve had Moe’s once. Qdoba once.

Never at any of the others. Why would I when we have so many better local options, whether it’s taco trucks or local chains.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:24:50pm

Now that certain numerous red lines have been crossed repeatedly by POTUS I quit playing it cool on my public FB. This might bite me in the ass as my professional and personal profiles are rather closely linked. Sacrifices are required. I already lost friends. Losing some customers and money just happened.

Blood is thicker than money. Justice over success. Rather die young sleeping well than old and craven on ambien. Okay that’s ego, I’m too old to die young. But you guys get it right?

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stpaulbear  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:27:12pm

An angry country song. The visuals kind of compete with the music so best to pay attention to just one at a time.

WILL HOGE - THOUGHTS & PRAYERS (official)

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:27:21pm

re: #161 Unshaken Defiance

Now that’s what I’m talking about when I call for public shaming to come back. Lie down with mangy dogs and wake up with fleas motherfu…

Fuckin’ right.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:28:43pm
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jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:29:29pm

re: #150 Unshaken Defiance

If Taco Bell is Mexican food, I’d like to show you my dog.

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Must be a mixed breed of some kind.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:30:12pm
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stpaulbear  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:31:41pm

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

Damn. Evil fuckers.

I hope that RAICES can use some of their donations to pay those fees.

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plansbandc  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:34:24pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:36:34pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

Well this is why I consider that ad hoc.

However, what Sollima — or anyone involved with the movie — could never have predicted was that it would be released at a moment when the topic of borders and immigration are dominating the news cycle and social media.

When one gets to make a feature film as a director or producer or writer, you are in control of many many things. Current events are not one of them. It’s just a movie. Should they have held it back? Worse not better IMO.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:38:51pm

re: #177 Charles Johnson

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It’s pretty rich considering they spent the past eight years crying about every last thing Obama did and then I have to see stupid memes where they claim they treated Obama with respect even though they didn’t like him and that means we should do the same for Trump. Just makes me want to punch shit.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:38:54pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:39:17pm

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Assholes.

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Belafon  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:41:45pm

re: #182 Dave In Austin

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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:42:44pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:43:53pm

re: #180 Unshaken Defiance

Well this is why I consider that ad hoc.

When one gets to make a feature film as a director or producer or writer, you are in control of many many things. Current events are not one of them. It’s just a movie.

The movie began shooting on election day 2016. You cannot honestly think the filmmakers weren’t aware that border security was still going to be a contemporary hot button issue when it was released. They purposely put that bullshit at the beginning in there to play into the absolute worst xenophobic fears that Trump stoked just like when the producers of 24 had Jack Bower torture folks during the height of the debate over the US torture program.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:49:34pm

re: #182 Dave In Austin

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Oh myyyy

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:51:25pm

re: #186 goddamnedfrank

I just can’t bring myself to assume that “bullshit at the beginning” was planned to riff off Trump at that point. But hey opinions vary. I’m not happy about the ending, too much setup for the next one, already sure to be filmed. Shooting election day. Script work was well previous to that day.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:52:35pm

I have to admit I was ready to dislike Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez because of her Bernie connections, because Bernie Sanders really alienated me in 2016. Big time.

But after watching some of her appearances today, I have to say I like what I’m seeing. This may change, but people like her are ultimately going to be the future of the liberal agenda in this country, whether it’s called the Democratic Party or not.

And we’re in a fight for our lives right this fucking second.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:56:33pm
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mmmirele  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:57:57pm

Talk about your nightmare fuel. On the other hand, I’ve never seen a pregnant rattlesnake, so there is that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 5:59:35pm
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gwangung  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:01:56pm

re: #189 Charles Johnson

I have to admit I was ready to dislike Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez because of her Bernie connections, because Bernie Sanders really alienated me in 2016. Big time.

But after watching some of her appearances today, I have to say I like what I’m seeing. This may change, but people like her are ultimately going to be the future of the liberal agenda in this country, whether it’s called the Democratic Party or not.

And we’re in a fight for our lives right this fucking second.

She’s a deft politician, emphasizing her similarities with the party and not her differences. That’s what voters are looking for.

She will undoubtedly have differences with Pelosi and other more mainstream leaders, but she’s sharp enough to express them with a velvet tone, while reminding them she does have some electoral power that wants a more progressive bent to policies.

She appears to want Sanders’ goals, but not necessarily is married to his methods or to the man himself.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:02:53pm

re: #189 Charles Johnson

I have to admit I was ready to dislike Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez because of her Bernie connections, because Bernie Sanders really alienated me in 2016. Big time.

But after watching some of her appearances today, I have to say I like what I’m seeing. This may change, but people like her are ultimately going to be the future of the liberal agenda in this country, whether it’s called the Democratic Party or not.

And we’re in a fight for our lives right this fucking second.

I like her. She supported Bernie but so did a lot of people under 30. She’s tough and unlike Bernie actually sees what’s going with immigrants as a real issue not a “distraction” as he’d call it.

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Interesting Times  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:03:02pm

o.O

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:04:11pm
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stpaulbear  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:04:55pm

re: #193 gwangung

She’s a deft politician, emphasizing her similarities with the party and not her differences. That’s what voters are looking for.

She will undoubtedly have differences with Pelosi and other more mainstream leaders, but she’s sharp enough to express them with a velvet tone, while reminding them she does have some electoral power that wants a more progressive bent to policies.

She appears to want Sanders’ goals, but not necessarily is married to his methods or to the man himself.

She’s also interested in the lives of both white and not-white people.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:05:41pm

re: #195 Interesting Times

o.O

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Uh no. We said Sanders’ socialist approach ignored PoC. Alexandria’s approach doesn’t dismiss PoC while Bernie certainly did but nice try.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:05:53pm
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A Mom Anon  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:07:07pm

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh Damn. Now THAT’S what I love to see. Yessss!!!! Someone got his ass handed to him. Hahahaha!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:07:15pm

re: #197 stpaulbear

She’s also interested in the lives of both white and not-white people.

And didn’t spend the most important rallies that all of the potential 2020 candidates attended in a centennial for a town 96% white.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:07:23pm

Happy birthday, Olivia de Havilland! Born this day in 1916, and still going.

On a much much more somber note, this was also the infamous First Day on the Somme, the worst day in the history of the British army, with an astounding 57,470 casualties, including 19,240 dead, in just 24 hours on a front of no more than 15 miles.

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gwangung  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:07:26pm

re: #197 stpaulbear

She’s also interested in the lives of both white and not-white people.

That, too.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:07:54pm

re: #199 Charles Johnson

Love this.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:08:31pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Not Approved By The MPAA  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:08:43pm

re: #170 goddamnedfrank

Keep in mind that it is just a movie and given the subject matter, it was certain to exaggerate and capitalize on fear. That’s how you create the stakes in a film narrative. Poor timing? Absolutely.

As to your comments regarding the hopelessly broken portrayal of Mexico is in the film, I would ask you to look past the bombast and look at the scene where Del Toro and Isabela Moner arrive at the desert farm. The husband recognizes her and no doubt knows that whether he refuses them sanctuary, or agrees — he has compromised his family. But he does it because it is the right and moral thing to do. I would ask you to look at the scene between Josh Brolin and the Federale where it was demonstrated the type of joint cooperation that undoubtedly happens between US and Mexican authorities regardless of the political rhetoric.

As to your statement that the filmmakers purposely added in the opening sequence to appeal to the worst instincts of Mango Mussolini and his kin, I would ask for proof that occurred. Without that proof your statement is absurd given the simple fact that it is the events of that sequence which drives the rest of the movie. Which would mean everyone from Columbia Pictures, Sony Pictures, Black Label Media to Sollima and Sheridan agreed to a complete rewrite of the script, the day after Trump was elected, and miraculously put it all in motion in a manner so efficient never to have happened in the history of cinema …

I’ve worked in the industry most of my adult life and it simply isn’t how things happen.

It’s quite okay to dislike the film for a variety of reasons, but please spare the Alex Jones type conspiracy theories. Again, if you have some evidence this happened, I would very much like to review it. I should have a copy of an early draft of the script in the near future and I will certainly let you know if the sequence is included.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:08:49pm

re: #131 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Uh fireworks, that’s the ticket. They want to get into the fireworks business

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:10:38pm

re: #202 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Happy birthday, Olivia de Havilland! Born this day in 1916, and still going.

On a much much more somber note, this was also the infamous First Day on the Somme, the worst day in the history of the British army, with an astounding 57,470 casualties, including 19,240 dead, in just 24 hours on a front of no more than 15 miles.

also the first day of the Battle of Gettysburg in 1863.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:12:52pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:13:30pm

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

also the first day of the Battle of Gettysburg in 1863.

I’m writing a Facebook post on Minnesota’s famous contributions to tomorrow’s action right now. I may repost it when I am done.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:13:38pm
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Dave In Austin  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:14:47pm

Has anyone been watching “Succession” on HBO? Binged the prior episodes last nite. My God!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:14:51pm
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Interesting Times  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:16:15pm

re: #204 Unshaken Defiance

Love this.

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The tweet she posted right after that one is brilliant as well, and a point that sails over oh so many heads -_-

In fact, it’s exactly what I was trying to explain downstairs about why one mustn’t fall into the trap of thinking “centrism” is the only way forward for Dems. In fact, when the entire country has been defenestrated through the Overton Window, only an extreme pull in the opposite direction has any hope of pulling you back!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:17:58pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Stuttering John gets arrested, Jared Kushner is still allowed to repeatedly lie on his security clearance forms and still gets the clearance.

This is the fucked up state that America is in right now…

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:19:25pm

re: #135 Backwoods_Sleuth

KPRC 2 Houston

@KPRC2
Americans vote #TacoBell as the ‘Best Mexican Restaurant of 2018’ - bit.ly#KPRC2 @tacobell

9:41 AM - Jun 29, 2018

Make a run to the border. But you never actually cross…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:20:58pm

This is right up there with @dog_rates

I’m not sure what this dog is on, but, it should probably be regulated

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:21:04pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:21:53pm

re: #21 Single-handed sailor

So we should just pretend that North Korea isn’t lying to Trump? Sounds like a plan.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:21:58pm

re: #216 ObserverArt

Make a run to the border. But you never actually cross…

I’ll believe that when you can finally get El Cholo’s Green Corn Tamales at Taco Bell.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:23:57pm

re: #220 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’ll believe that when you can finally get El Cholo’s Green Corn Tamales at Taco Bell.

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I don’t think they have a single corn tortilla product at TB. That alone is why I could never choose them, I admit, I don’t mind TB in a quick pinch but I’d never mistake it for the best of the real thing.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:24:06pm

And now it looks like Sr. Obrador is winning the Mexican Presidential election.

Sr. Obrador makes Sr. Fox look like Andy of Mayberry.

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William Lewis  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:25:02pm

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

also the first day of the Battle of Gettysburg in 1863.

Yep. Arguably General John Buford saved the Union that day by delaying the Confederates long enough to gain Meade the high ground that would be needed to defeat Lee. His death, probably from typhoid, was a great loss to the Union later that year.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:25:12pm

re: #222 Joe Bacon 🌹

And now it looks like Sr. Obrador is winning the Mexican Presidential election.

Sr. Obrador makes Sr. Fox look like Andy of Mayberry.

Trump’s gonna have a stupid nickname ready for him and the right’s going to call him a commie ignoring the fact that none other than Rudy consulted him.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:26:04pm

re: #223 William Lewis

Yep. Arguably General John Buford saved the Union that day by delaying the Confederates long enough to gain Meade the high ground that would be needed to defeat Lee. His death, probably from typhoid, was a great loss to the Union later that year.

Loved Sam Elliott as him in Gettysburg. Was surprised that the real Buford was a much younger man than Elliott’s portrayal.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:27:06pm

re: #222 Joe Bacon 🌹

And now it looks like Sr. Obrador is winning the Mexican Presidential election.

Sr. Obrador makes Sr. Fox look like Andy of Mayberry.

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Interesting Times  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:28:08pm

Now that’s a meme worth keeping:

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Not Approved By The MPAA  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:28:25pm

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

… all their hope & merriment snuffed out for ever, and their voices fading on the winds of thought, from memory to memory, from hour to hour, until they are no more to be recalled.

Diary entry, 13 July 1916

From the diary of Siegfried Sassoon — known as “Mad Jack” who won the DSC for actions in the Somme, then later wrote the essay pasted below (while in the trenches). It caused quite a stir upon publication in London newspapers. It is one of the single most articulate refutations of the glory of war. Particularly in its scathing assessment of military leadership.

Senior Officers couldn’t afford to prosecute a serving war hero, so they shipped off the a retreat for officers in the high-country of Scotland for a fitness evaluation. While there, he befriended, inspired and guided Wilfred Owen, the greatest of the Great War poets.
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Lt. Siegfried Sassoon.
3rd Batt: Royal Welsh Fusiliers.
July, 1917.

I am making this statement as an act of wilful defiance of military authority because I believe that the war is being deliberately prolonged by those who have the power to end it. I am a soldier, convinced that I am acting on behalf of soldiers. I believe that the war upon which I entered as a war of defence and liberation has now become a war of agression and conquest. I believe that the purposes for which I and my fellow soldiers entered upon this war should have been so clearly stated as to have made it impossible to change them and that had this been done the objects which actuated us would now be attainable by negotiation.

I have seen and endured the sufferings of the troops and I can no longer be a party to prolonging these sufferings for ends which I believe to be evil and unjust. I am not protesting against the conduct of the war, but against the political errors and insincerities for which the fighting men are being sacrificed.

On behalf of those who are suffering now, I make this protest against the deception which is being practised upon them; also I believe it may help to destroy the callous complacency with which the majority of those at home regard the continuance of agonies which they do not share and which they have not enough imagination to realise.

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gwangung  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:28:25pm

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

He can thank Trump for that, I think…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:28:51pm

this poor guy…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:29:01pm

re: #229 gwangung

He can thank Trump for that, I think…

No doubt.

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b.d.  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:29:40pm

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Scientist

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:31:06pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

WHY DIDN’T I GET THE MEMO!? We can still get our V/STOL modified Vulcan bombed up and ready to hit the Jones Command Center at H-Hour but it will be a rush job and that means a lot of overtime. That will have to come out of SOMEBODY’s bonus other than mine.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:31:36pm

re: #217 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Puppy mills should be banned. This is sanctioned animal torture. They shouldn’t exist.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:31:55pm

re: #233 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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WHY DIDN’T I GET THE MEMO!? We can still get our V/STOL modified Vulcan bombed up and ready to hit the Jones Command Center at H-Hour but it will be a rush job and that means a lot of overtime. That will have to come out of SOMEBODY’s bonus other than mine.

I got the memo but it turned out, it was just a reminder to pick up ribs at the store. Yes, Alex, a liberal eats ribs and likes them!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:32:16pm
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Teukka  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:32:30pm

re: #233 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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WHY DIDN’T I GET THE MEMO!? We can still get our V/STOL modified Vulcan bombed up and ready to hit the Jones Command Center at H-Hour but it will be a rush job and that means a lot of overtime. That will have to come out of SOMEBODY’s bonus other than mine.

[tinfoil]Or it may be something which will happen, which will they will try to pin on the Democrats.[/tinfoil]

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:33:21pm

re: #233 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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WHY DIDN’T I GET THE MEMO!? We can still get our V/STOL modified Vulcan bombed up and ready to hit the Jones Command Center at H-Hour but it will be a rush job and that means a lot of overtime. That will have to come out of SOMEBODY’s bonus other than mine.

All I got was an e-mail from the YMCA saying they’d be closed on the 4th!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:33:54pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I may not like her for POTUS much but I do like her as a person and a new dog is always a good thing.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:36:16pm

re: #223 William Lewis

Yep. Arguably General John Buford saved the Union that day by delaying the Confederates long enough to gain Meade the high ground that would be needed to defeat Lee. His death, probably from typhoid, was a great loss to the Union later that year.

OK, I lied. I posted my article here. It’s on the Pages.

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William Lewis  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:36:53pm

All the fourth of July means to me today is 8 hours of time & a half :)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:38:31pm

I was planning on taking Amtrak this week up to Emeryville. Cancelled due to Drs. telling me that a “staycation” is in order…

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:42:18pm

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Bye Lebron.

It’s time for the Cleveland thing to be over.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:44:56pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:45:33pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:45:54pm

I go to facebook and am tempted with this…

nuts.com

Chocolate Coated Cashews…
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:46:51pm
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mmmirele  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:47:37pm

re: #137 freetoken

Update on the Southern Baptists and their continuing Paige Patterson problem:

Seems the deep pocket fundamentalists who are Patterson backers are threatening to cut off funding to SWBTS unless the executive committee which brushed Patterson out the door makes amends to Patterson:

As far as I am concerned, the SBC can be consumed by fire from heaven because of these Patterson supporters. I’m still DONE because of the bullshit sliming of a victim of Patterson’s actions [hiding the rape] by the wife of Patterson’s chief of staff. The victim is probably too nice to sue.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:47:57pm

re: #233 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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WHY DIDN’T I GET THE MEMO!? We can still get our V/STOL modified Vulcan bombed up and ready to hit the Jones Command Center at H-Hour but it will be a rush job and that means a lot of overtime. That will have to come out of SOMEBODY’s bonus other than mine.

Sorry, orders.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:48:19pm

re: #245 Charles Johnson

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I seriously don’t get what his appeal is. He’s not funny. He’s not insightful. He’s just an old man stuck in a young man’s body who spent his daughter’s birth crying about Obama on Twitter.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:48:46pm

re: #247 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Gee I wonder who these people support. //

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:49:18pm

re: #226 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Will this new guy pay for the wall?

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:50:49pm

re: #245 Charles Johnson

Another reason I’m glad I stopped watching Maher. It’s fine to bring on Rightwingers but then you have to push back at their nonsense. Maher rarely dies that. He practically tongue bathed Milo. I don’t even think that Maher asked Milo about the racist attacks on Leslie Jones which got him banned from Twitter.

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b.d.  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:51:11pm

re: #245 Charles Johnson

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lol, you got it all wrong Charles!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:51:32pm

re: #246 Joe Bacon 🌹

I go to facebook and am tempted with this…

nuts.com

I can’t buy chocolate covered cashews.
I lack the willpower to stop eating them

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meteor  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:53:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:54:28pm
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A Cranky One  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:55:18pm

re: #177 Charles Johnson

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People don’t have “Trump Derangement Syndrome”.

The country is suffering from “Deranged Trump Syndrome”.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:56:55pm

re: #255 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I can’t buy chocolate covered cashews.
I lack the willpower to stop eating them

You are NOT alone. I am glad they didn’t show chocolate coated macadamia or Brazil nuts because I have absolutely no will power to resist them!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:57:05pm

re: #254 b.d.

lol, you got it all wrong Charles!

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LMAO.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:58:59pm

total cuteness overload…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:59:16pm

re: #253 Patricia Kayden

Another reason I’m glad I stopped watching Maher. It’s fine to bring on Rightwingers but then you have to push back at their nonsense. Maher rarely dies that. He practically tongue bathed Milo. I don’t even think that Maher asked Milo about the racist attacks on Leslie Jones which got him banned from Twitter.

Because Maher just cares about the elements of liberalism that benefit him. He’s indifferent to racism because it’s not him that’s targeted by Milo.

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2018 • 6:59:45pm

re: #242 Joe Bacon 🌹

I was planning on taking Amtrak this week up to Emeryville. Cancelled due to Drs. telling me that a “staycation” is in order…

Are you ok?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:01:39pm

re: #263 MsJ

Th/UDXEFbWCrSbnFvvPegQyflp3zFVVx3FeCGUGIvTGRteWwIGidXQ5i3EzdlAFS3kW0nfI7dgI7Dd7G8YubnwZbVYJe40+P

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:02:38pm
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MsJ  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:03:07pm

re: #264 Joe Bacon 🌹

UcFh3noYP6pAWQo8yTKq1D6IBdreRKz1Yrd/fZafppV/4qQFJqFFHBI6NK5Sjia3YW7i3HoeJjg=

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ObserverArt  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:03:54pm

re: #220 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’ll believe that when you can finally get El Cholo’s Green Corn Tamales at Taco Bell.

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I don’t think my joke went over Joe.

It was a dig on an old Taco Bell ad campaign about making a “run to the border” which was a run to Taco Bell.

You never had Mexican food if you never went past that border.

Heh. I think some people used to joke you would be running to other places too.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:04:09pm

re: #266 MsJ

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:07:11pm

re: #267 ObserverArt

Art I remember the old jingle because there was a Taco Bell right next to our old office. Half the staff would go either there or McDonald’s for lunch.

But I’m just amazed seeing how many Taco Bells closed around here and now there are multiple McDonald’s and Carl’s Jr. (Hardees) that also closed…

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:07:30pm

Current mood.

Iframe

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sagehen  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:07:49pm

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

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THIS MAKES ME SO VERY HAPPY!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:09:50pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:13:08pm
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Belafon  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:18:12pm

re: #195 Interesting Times

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sagehen  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:19:12pm

re: #193 gwangung

She’s a deft politician, emphasizing her similarities with the party and not her differences. That’s what voters are looking for.

She will undoubtedly have differences with Pelosi and other more mainstream leaders, but she’s sharp enough to express them with a velvet tone, while reminding them she does have some electoral power that wants a more progressive bent to policies.

She appears to want Sanders’ goals, but not necessarily is married to his methods or to the man himself.

When pundits have tried to push her on whether her “free college/medicare for all/etc” was something the Dems should push nationally, she was vehement about NO!!, very smart in how she framed the “some districts candidates can take the risk of articulating utopian ideals, most districts it’s enough to just be slightly, incrementally, more liberal than their opponent.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:20:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:21:30pm

re: #276 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That’s a damn good point. But hell I think it could be even simpler that Putin knows how huge Trump’s ego is and used the fact that Obama mocked him to push him.

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Interesting Times  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:22:46pm

Moar winning signs from yesterday:

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:23:20pm

I watched Hacksaw Ridge.

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plansbandc  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:25:11pm

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Belafon  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:29:53pm
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sagehen  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:31:55pm

re: #206 Not Approved By The MPAA

As to your statement that the filmmakers purposely added in the opening sequence to appeal to the worst instincts of Mango Mussolini and his kin, I would ask for proof that occurred. Without that proof your statement is absurd given the simple fact that it is the events of that sequence which drives the rest of the movie. Which would mean everyone from Columbia Pictures, Sony Pictures, Black Label Media to Sollima and Sheridan agreed to a complete rewrite of the script, the day after Trump was elected, and miraculously put it all in motion in a manner so efficient never to have happened in the history of cinema …

I’ve worked in the industry most of my adult life and it simply isn’t how things happen.

The most recent season of American Horror Story, on the other hand, was absolutely 100% written because of and about the 2016 election.

The opening scene of the first episode is people in Michigan watching election results on TV, the lesbians’ marriage is in trouble because one of them is furious that the other voted for “JILL FUCKING STEIN ARE YOU KIDDING ME?” “But I just don’t trust Hillary, her e-mails…” There’s some MAGA neighbors, there’s dishonestly edited youTube videos, there’s media malpractice, everything a politics-related horror story needs.

it’s not a spoiler to say that most of the characters are dead by the end of the season, in gruesome ways…

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wheat-dogg  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:32:26pm

re: #233 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The Liberal Civil War begins July 4th?

Darn it! I’m gonna miss all the fun! I won’t get my passport with its new residence permit back for another two weeks. Try to slow down the takeover. OK?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:35:47pm

re: #283 wheat-dogg

The Liberal Civil War begins July 4th?

Darn it! I’m gonna miss all the fun! I won’t get my passport with its new residence permit back for another two weeks. Try to slow down the takeover. OK?

We’ll save you a conservative Bible or two to burn when you get here.

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Belafon  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:36:18pm

re: #283 wheat-dogg

The Liberal Civil War begins July 4th?

Darn it! I’m gonna miss all the fun! I won’t get my passport with its new residence permit back for another two weeks. Try to slow down the takeover. OK?

I’m planning on cooking a pork butt on Wednesday, but I didn’t buy one big enough for a civil war.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:36:43pm

re: #278 Interesting Times

I thought librylz knew how to spel. I am disappoint. /half

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:39:19pm

re: #283 wheat-dogg

The Liberal Civil War begins July 4th?

Darn it! I’m gonna miss all the fun! I won’t get my passport with its new residence permit back for another two weeks. Try to slow down the takeover. OK?

I have that day off work so I should be good to go. Where are we all meeting up?

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Belafon  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:40:27pm

re: #195 Interesting Times

Reading through the replies, there are lots of people who have no clue how economics works. Specifically, they view things such that an economy is either all socialism or all capitalism.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:41:30pm

re: #288 Belafon

Reading through the replies, there are lots of people who have no clue how economics works. Specifically, they view things such that an economy is either all socialism or all capitalism.

That’s something I usually notice with economic purists of all kinds.

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Interesting Times  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:41:58pm

re: #286 wheat-dogg

I thought librylz knew how to spel. I am disappoint. /half

Woah, I didn’t even notice that! :O Aand if you look really closely, you can see they’d penciled in the correct spelling beforehand! Oy -_- Have this version instead:

Facebook Post

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:49:40pm
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Not Approved By The MPAA  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:50:28pm

re: #282 sagehen

Sure, the difference is the season premiere was in September of 2017, and since TV shows shoot concurrently while the season airs they have more flexibility to address current events.

Feature films are very aggressively locked into a narrative structure long before-hand due to enormous expense, pre-booked theatrical release and the myriad schedules of talent, key crew members and marketing.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:51:27pm

re: #291 Single-handed sailor

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No, you tried to call her an out of touch elite and made yourself look stupid but go ahead cry victim as conservatives like you always do when you’re called out on being wrong.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:55:19pm

re: #292 Not Approved By The MPAA

So in an election year your nickname might be Not Approved, unlike all those PAC messages.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:56:39pm
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Teukka  Jul 1, 2018 • 7:58:07pm

re: #295 Charles Johnson

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Shuddering in fear?
Just my $.02.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:01:05pm

re: #284 HappyWarrior

We’ll save you a conservative Bible or two to burn when you get here.

Ooo! Can I burn Andy Schlafly in effigy, too?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:01:09pm

re: #295 Charles Johnson

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Uh no sorry NYT but family values is not talking about how you find your daughter sexually attractive, it’s not bragging about your adultery to the tabloids, and it’s not being an absent father to a 10 year old. But thanks for playing. And by the way, Trump is the biggest elite out there, stop butchering the word out to attack anyone who sees through this bastard for what he really is.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:01:27pm

re: #297 wheat-dogg

Ooo! Can I burn Andy Schlafly in effigy, too?

Only if you’re good.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:06:05pm

re: #299 HappyWarrior

Only if you’re good.

I will give up eating pineapple on pizza forever!

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:08:24pm

This went from a heart-warming feelgood story in the ‘80’s to WTF HOW FUCKED UP IS THIS FUCKING SHIT!!!!

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:11:12pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:13:02pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:14:12pm

re: #303 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Oh, I thought he was going to run his mouth on FNC about another issue he knows nothing about but that Tucker will present him as an expert on. Wrong Fabio.

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JordanRules  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:17:03pm

re: #304 HappyWarrior

Oh, I thought he was going to run his mouth on FNC about another issue he knows nothing about but that Tucker will present him as an expert on. Wrong Fabio.

Ha! I hadn’t heard about this storm so I was really confused at first.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:18:24pm

re: #305 JordanRules

Ha! I hadn’t heard about this storm so I was really confused at first.

I hadn’t either and I’ve had a couple beers- day off tomorrow so heh.

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mmmirele  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:22:36pm

re: #295 Charles Johnson

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wheat-dogg  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:23:23pm

Not sure what Shatner is up to here.

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Jay C  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:24:44pm

re: #295 Charles Johnson

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BTW, the byline on that idiotic NYT piece is one “Matthew Schmitz” “Editor of First Things” - which name sounds vaguely familiar - so I’m guessing WTH is wrong with the New York Times is the usual thing that’s wrong with them: giving over column space to hacks for its “nuance value” or whatever…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:25:57pm

re: #304 HappyWarrior

Oh, I thought he was going to run his mouth on FNC about another issue he knows nothing about but that Tucker will present him as an expert on. Wrong Fabio.

re: #305 JordanRules

Ha! I hadn’t heard about this storm so I was really confused at first.

Yeah, I hadn’t either. Wasn’t wearing my reading glasses, so all I made out in the first glance was “Fabio expected to…”, and thought what is that asshole up to now

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:26:03pm

re: #233 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

OMG the replies are amazing.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:27:24pm

re: #308 wheat-dogg

Not sure what Shatner is up to here.

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A stupid argument. The objection ot the CSA statues isn’t merely that they owned slaves, it’s that they started a damn war over it.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:28:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:29:36pm

re: #313 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I believe that’s the definition of a terrorist NBC.A heckler would have just shouted shit.

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Jay C  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:31:25pm

re: #308 wheat-dogg

Not sure what Shatner is up to here.

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Maybe he needs the money, and figured if that approach worked for Soupy Sales, he might as well give it a try?

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danarchy  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:32:34pm

re: #147 Belafon

Of the three I have eaten at, Taco Bell, Chipotle, and Qdoba, I would pick Qdoba.

I have been to Moes’s, Qdoba, Chipotle, and Taco bell, Never even heard of Baja Fresh and the nearest Del Taco is almost 600 miles away.

For me Moe’s, Qdoba, and Chipotle are almost interchangeable, although the queso burrito at Qdoba is the bomb so they may get a slight edge.

I think the only reason Taco Bell won is because they have more locations than all of the other ones combined.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:32:55pm

Yes the fact that many presidents owned slaves was awful and absolutely we should discuss that but we should also discuss the fact that a war was started over people who wanted to preserve slavery at all costs including destroying our country. And those people shouldn’t be honored as heroes.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:33:23pm

re: #315 Jay C

Maybe he needs the money, and figured if that approach worked for Soupy Sales, he might as well give it a try?

I was thinking of the Soupy Sales thing too although I am pretty sure Shatner is joking here.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:35:26pm

re: #308 wheat-dogg

Not sure what Shatner is up to here.

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He’s doing the Soupy Sales thing!

Send Bill the green pictures and in return Bill sends you a postcard from Brazil!

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:38:42pm

re: #295 Charles Johnson

Who among us at the NYT has not fantasized about “dating” our daughters.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:39:30pm

re: #233 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Stanley Sea  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:40:59pm

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BeachDem  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:41:03pm

re: #295 Charles Johnson

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sagehen  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:42:08pm

re: #303 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Do they realize that choosing that name is a gift to meme-makers?

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:44:26pm

Baffling elites, middlebrows, and the $5-a-day-nonpoors, the New York Times joins the National Enquirer in the Trump cult.

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Teukka  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:44:34pm

re: #324 sagehen

Do they realize that choosing that name is a gift to meme-makers?

Fabulous hurricane?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:45:13pm

re: #324 sagehen

Do they realize that choosing that name is a gift to meme-makers?

I Can’t Believe It’s Not A Tropical Storm!

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blueraven  Jul 1, 2018 • 8:57:25pm

re: #295 Charles Johnson

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What a bunch of bullshit soaked in hypocritical religious psychobabble. JFC

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Jul 1, 2018 • 9:05:09pm

re: #295 Charles Johnson

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Note who the byline was from:

Matthew Schmitz is a senior editor at First Things and a Robert Novak Journalism Fellow.

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JordanRules  Jul 1, 2018 • 9:10:11pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 1, 2018 • 9:11:47pm

re: #295 Charles Johnson

“White Trash” is now a legitimate and equal socio-cultural affiliation.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 1, 2018 • 9:15:15pm

re: #331 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

“White Trash” is now a legitimate and equal socio-cultural affiliation.

Don’t care to read the article. My guess is that working class voters would have a less nuanced view of a black president having affairs.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 9:15:22pm
“Pentecostal and prosperity gospel preachers, whose denominations have the lowest average income and educational attainment in the country, were more likely to support Mr. Trump.”
nytimes.com

Scammers hang together.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 9:19:42pm
“Baffling as it may be to elites, Mr. Trump embodies a real if imperfect model of family values. People familiar with the purple family model tend to view his alienation from his children’s mother as normal and his closeness to his children as exceptional and admirable.”

A lifelong demand that your children fill your insatiable narcissistic need is not “closeness”, you ignorant ass.

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retired cynic  Jul 1, 2018 • 9:24:58pm

re: #334 jaunte

A lifelong demand that your children fill your insatiable narcissistic need is not “closeness”, you ignorant ass.

Have they forgotten the other wives, and other children? That he seemingly ignores for weeks at a time?

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 9:27:07pm

re: #335 retired cynic
That drivel is completely disconnected from Trump’s actual life.

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prairiefire  Jul 1, 2018 • 9:30:28pm

re: #212 Dave In Austin

Ya, it’s good.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2018 • 9:45:17pm
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Belafon  Jul 1, 2018 • 9:47:29pm

re: #338 jaunte

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 1, 2018 • 9:47:38pm

re: #322 Stanley Sea

DgXHYrWnjafN/2dY1s1phu/uuWBzc6QP5rFo8X56RumbSvLnULrVNs/txlLe4wERfk6TIowki9M=

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Belafon  Jul 1, 2018 • 9:50:56pm

re: #322 Stanley Sea

Did you try 105.7: en.m.wikipedia.org

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 1, 2018 • 10:07:26pm
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JordanRules  Jul 1, 2018 • 10:09:18pm
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DodgerFan1988  Jul 1, 2018 • 10:15:28pm

Blowback from all the anti-Mexican hate coming from the American Right.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:01:58pm

re: #206 Not Approved By The MPAA

As to your comments regarding the hopelessly broken portrayal of Mexico is in the film, I would ask you to look past the bombast and look at the scene where Del Toro and Isabela Moner arrive at the desert farm. The husband recognizes her and no doubt knows that whether he refuses them sanctuary, or agrees — he has compromised his family. But he does it because it is the right and moral thing to do. I would ask you to look at the scene between Josh Brolin and the Federale where it was demonstrated the type of joint cooperation that undoubtedly happens between US and Mexican authorities regardless of the political rhetoric.

These two weak examples do nothing to offset the mass betrayal by the Mexican police convoy, which presents the “cooperation” you see as an inherent liability and asserts as fact that Mexican law enforcement is intrinsically untrustworthy and likely to murder their US counterparts at any moment. As for the farmer was just there to humanize Del Toro’s character and re-affirm the loss of his daughter in his back story and his deafness was presented both to isolate him from the assumed corruption of his society and to again give Del Toro some much needed depth.

As to your statement that the filmmakers purposely added in the opening sequence to appeal to the worst instincts of Mango Mussolini and his kin, I would ask for proof that occurred. Without that proof your statement is absurd given the simple fact that it is the events of that sequence which drives the rest of the movie.

Honestly if you can’t see the mass suicide bombing by Islamic terrorists at the beginning immediately following the suicide bombing of the Islamic terrorist who came across the border and killed the ICE agents as a nod to the worst fears Trump has stoked then I just can’t fucking help you. What’s absurd is you fucking asking me to offer some “proof” of the filmmakers intentions in putting that right at the beginning.

Which would mean everyone from Columbia Pictures, Sony Pictures, Black Label Media to Sollima and Sheridan agreed to a complete rewrite of the script, the day after Trump was elected, and miraculously put it all in motion in a manner so efficient never to have happened in the history of cinema …

It doesn’t mean any of that. Listen, I’m trying to stay nice about this but your condescension and obtuseness about this is wearing on my last goddamned nerve. That particular plot point, whatever the goddamned motivation, is an unbelievably irresponsible thing to put in front of an American audience and plays to our worst biases and xenophobic fears.

I’ve worked in the industry most of my adult life and it simply isn’t how things happen.

Your appeal to authority is unconvincing.

It’s quite okay to dislike the film for a variety of reasons, but please spare the Alex Jones type conspiracy theories.

Go fuck yourself.

Again, if you have some evidence this happened, I would very much like to review it. I should have a copy of an early draft of the script in the near future and I will certainly let you know if the sequence is included.

No, seriously, go fuck yourself.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:58:41pm

re: #74 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

With Trump’s election, the militia movement faced a dilemma - how can you hate the gov and everything it stands for when your guy is in charge.

That is easy: you have to agitate against the “Deep State”.

Attacking the government to support your President.

Right up their alley.


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