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Single-handed sailor  Jul 1, 2018 • 10:25:53pm
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austin_blue  Jul 1, 2018 • 10:36:18pm

re: #1 Single-handed sailor

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You really can’t repeat this too often. They are Nazis, and they are running our government through their surrogates.

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JordanRules  Jul 1, 2018 • 10:37:42pm

re: #2 austin_blue

You really can’t repeat this too often. They are Nazis, and they are running our government through their surrogates.

This.

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austin_blue  Jul 1, 2018 • 10:57:05pm

re: #3 JordanRules

This.

Why are Republican Senators in Russia on the Fourth of July? Shouldn’t they be in their State Capitals for parades? Why are they in Moscow when there aren’t even any World Cup games, after Tuesday to watch until Friday? No real excuse, is there?

“I’m sorry, my son, but there is collusion to be done.”

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piratedan  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:09:58pm

re: #4 austin_blue

yes, GOP Senators, going to Finland to meet with Putin and what does the Press say about this? No one examining the Optics? No one also curious about how all of the dark money that found its way into GOP coffers, the coordination of the social media campaigns and possible hacking of the voter registration rolls in key states, the work done at both the national, state and local levels…

and our Press looks at this and speculates, what exactly?

This issue is much more sinister than anyone who plays in public is afraid to admit.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:25:45pm

Money laundering is the one about which I am most confident. The ultimate, the (cell) door slammer? It has to be something very big. The pee-tape is nothing, a distraction that the Trump cult would laugh off.
I think he is complicit in Russian-executed murders.

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JordanRules  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:34:39pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:35:20pm

It occurs to me that Trump’s sleazy business empire would have been an ideal conduit for Russian payoffs to various tools (local GOP, conspira-liars, scumbag journalists, etc.) well before his presidential run. The success of this operation could well have inspired him to run.

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JordanRules  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:39:14pm

Leather tits probably don’t do well in the rain though.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:41:54pm

re: #6 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Money laundering is the one about which I am most confident. The ultimate, the (cell) door slammer? It has to be something very big. The pee-tape is nothing, a distraction that the Trump cult would laugh off.
I think he is complicit in Russian-executed murders.

I’m pretty sure Mueller will nail Trump for obstruction of justice.

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austin_blue  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:43:34pm

re: #5 piratedan

yes, GOP Senators, going to Finland to meet with Putin and what does the Press say about this? No one examining the Optics? No one also curious about how all of the dark money that found its way into GOP coffers, the coordination of the social media campaigns and possible hacking of the voter registration rolls in key states, the work done at both the national, state and local levels…

and our Press looks at this and speculates, what exactly?

This issue is much more sinister than anyone who plays in public is afraid to admit.

It’s worse. While the Republican Senators are in Moscow this week, Trump and Putin are scheduled to meet in Helsinki, where it seems we will normalize the invasion of the Crimean peninsula. Nothing to see there!

Oh, and the shooting down of the Air Malaysia 777 by a Buk missile system controlled by the Russian Army inside the Ukraine (supposedly “rebels” but actually Russian regular Army personnel) is just more Fake News.

Russia appears to be running the Executive branch of our Government. The Manchurian Candidate who is nominally the head of our Government appears to have brainwashed himself before even running for higher office.

Now that’s a terrifying concept. The fucker was front-loaded to reject everything that made us great before he ever ran for office. And now we are watching him tear it all down.

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austin_blue  Jul 1, 2018 • 11:49:04pm

And goodnight. This all too much. The evil is oozing across the floor and people are like “This is fine! I can’t see how this going to affect me!.”

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wheat-dogg  Jul 2, 2018 • 12:27:53am

re: #6 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Money laundering is the one about which I am most confident. The ultimate, the (cell) door slammer? It has to be something very big. The pee-tape is nothing, a distraction that the Trump cult would laugh off.
I think he is complicit in Russian-executed murders.

The money-laundering has left a paper and electronic trail of evidence. The “collusion” aspect less so. Trump’s financial shenanigans have been suspect for years, and the constant communication with rich Russians with the need to clean their ill-gotten gains would lead anyone with a suspicious mind to make a connection between the two.

Kushner, too, though his connections may be more Arab than Russian.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 12:35:06am

re: #4 austin_blue

Why are Republican Senators in Russia on the Fourth of July? Shouldn’t they be in their State Capitals for parades? Why are they in Moscow when there aren’t even any World Cup games, after Tuesday to watch until Friday? No real excuse, is there?

“I’m sorry, my son, but there is collusion to be done are crimes to cover up.”

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JordanRules  Jul 2, 2018 • 12:39:38am
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 2, 2018 • 12:48:59am

re: #12 austin_blue

And goodnight. This all too much. The evil is oozing across the floor and people are like “This is fine! I can’t see how this going to affect me!.”

This is why I’ve fucking had it, the constant willful obtuseness and bending over backwards to not see the goddamned monstrosity staring us in the face.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 2, 2018 • 12:49:13am

NSFW lyrics

Laid

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 2, 2018 • 12:52:31am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 12:52:36am

The counter argument being broached is that the Democrats were separating families long before Trump. There is enough misleading “evidence” to make a claim that will hold up to the scrutiny of an Internet meme, tweet or Fox News talking point.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 2, 2018 • 12:57:20am

re: #19 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 12:58:20am

re: #20 Single-handed sailor

Yes, the Obama administration detained children, but they were unaccompanied minors.

This is too much nuance for the Shouting Match that is modern US political and social discourse…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 2, 2018 • 1:08:52am

I was over at Wonkette commenting earlier. My wife is busy setting up reservations now for our Yukon trip. Several people from Canada told me I should apply for asylum when I cross the border as an opposition politician.

I don’t know about doing that, but we will be leaving in a couple weeks.

Shoutout to Cheechako: We hope to be in Juneau from the 21st to the 23rd.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 2, 2018 • 1:13:45am

re: #16 goddamnedfrank

This is why I’ve fucking had it, the constant willful obtuseness and bending over backwards to not see the goddamned monstrosity staring us in the face.

Matthew Schmitz, the author of that waste of newsprint, is a senior editor of First Things. It is described as an Evangelical and neocon publication. It is both politically and religiously conservative, with a circulation of about 30,000.

The Times might have picked a magazine with a circulation of a couple million or so, but they went for one of the most right-wing nutbar fringe publications out there.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 2, 2018 • 1:15:13am

I’m sitting on cash till that stupid fucker quits fucking the markets.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 2, 2018 • 1:19:47am

Well, here’s why the NYT published that tripe on its op-ed page:

Ross Douthat wrote that, through FT [First Things], [John] Neuhaus demonstrated “that it was possible to be an intellectually fulfilled Christian”.

en.wikipedia.org

I’m sure it is possible to be an intellectually-fulfilled Christian. Many are, across many sects.

Mr. Douthat probably wouldn’t know “intellectually fulfilled” if it came from a box from Amazon.

My letters to the editor of my regional newspaper have a higher circulation than First Things. Why won’t the Times publish an op-ed from me?

(Oh right, Clinton voter in “Trump Country.” I don’t exist.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 2, 2018 • 1:23:23am

This one should trigger our esteemed host Mr. Johnson’s “automatic blocking function”:

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wheat-dogg  Jul 2, 2018 • 1:25:30am

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹

This one should trigger our esteemed host Mr. Johnson’s “automatic blocking function”:

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GTK will soon have enough dough to buy Twitter! That’ll show those heathen librulz!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 2, 2018 • 1:28:00am

re: #19 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The counter argument being broached is that the Democrats were separating families long before Trump. There is enough misleading “evidence” to make a claim that will hold up to the scrutiny of an Internet meme, tweet or Fox News talking point.

Evidence as in “we made stuff up about President Obama, like we did for the last eight years.”

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 2, 2018 • 1:39:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 1:47:32am

Baffling as it may be to elites on both left and right, Mr. Trump embodies a real if imperfect model of family values.

Daddy has children by multiple wives, pays to cover up affairs with porn stars, talks about wanting to date his daughter, hangs out with hookers in Moscow hotel rooms, brags about grabbing pussy.

just like any real but imperfect family

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 2, 2018 • 1:51:40am
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Cheechako  Jul 2, 2018 • 2:14:04am

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹

I was over at Wonkette commenting earlier. My wife is busy setting up reservations now for our Yukon trip. Several people from Canada told me I should apply for asylum when I cross the border as an opposition politician.

I don’t know about doing that, but we will be leaving in a couple weeks.

Shoutout to Cheechako: We hope to be in Juneau from the 21st to the 23rd.

On my calendar.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 2, 2018 • 2:53:52am

re: #19 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The counter argument being broached is that the Democrats were separating families long before Trump. There is enough misleading “evidence” to make a claim that will hold up to the scrutiny of an Internet meme, tweet or Fox News talking point.

And what proof is there that Democrats were separating migrant families? Ask for a citation. There are none.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 3:01:44am

re: #33 Patricia Kayden

And what proof is there that Democrats were separating migrant families? Ask for a citation. There are none.

remember, those who possess a Higher Truth do not need to stick to mere facts to make their case…

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LastYearsMan  Jul 2, 2018 • 3:04:44am

Here’s a true feel-good refugee story (from Canada, of course). Syrian refugees set up chocolate company, Peace By Chocolate, that makes Pride chocolates and other specialty items and gives back to the community.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 2, 2018 • 3:04:57am

It’s all about that base:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 3:09:04am

re: #36 Barefoot Grin

Asked how he can bring the country together amid all this anti-Trump incivility, Trump says “there’s probably never been a base in the history of politics” like the Trump base, and he adds, “I hope the other side realizes, they better just take it easy.”

It is a unique situation: there is a rock-solid 30 percent that will support him despite or rather even because of what he does, and they will get out and vote.

The GOP knows that they just have to get another 20-odd percent of the electorate to go along and they will have their majority.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 2, 2018 • 3:10:03am

re: #37 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is a unique situation: there is a rock-solid 30 percent that will support him despite or rather even because of what he does, and they will get out and vote.

The GOP knows that they just have to get another 20-odd percent of the electorate to go along and they will have their majority.

That’s true. I took Trump’s statement as “and they’re armed.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 3:12:47am

re: #38 Barefoot Grin

That’s true. I took Trump’s statement as “and they’re armed.”

I believe that a lot of them are prepared to take to armed uprising if Trump is removed from office or even loses the next election…

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 2, 2018 • 3:19:05am

re: #39 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I believe that a lot of them are prepared to take to armed uprising if Trump is removed from office or even loses the next election…

I’m just turning the corner on realizing there could be real violence. Up to recently it seemed a bit laughable. I guess it would depend on how police and military would react.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 3:21:35am

re: #40 Barefoot Grin

I’m just turning the corner on realizing there could be real violence. Up to recently it seemed a bit laughable. I guess it would depend on how police and military would react.

If police and military fail to react swiftly and determinedly, it will encourage them, if they do so, it will enrage them.

There is no winning solution here.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 2, 2018 • 3:23:08am

re: #35 LastYearsMan

Lovely story. Despite the anti-immigrant hysteria currently in vogue among the White House occupants and their supporters, there are hundreds of such stories right here in America. We’re just not hearing them. Trump would rather lie about ICE liberating towns from MS-13, ban Muslims and punish asylum seekers.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 2, 2018 • 3:24:09am

re: #39 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I believe that a lot of them are prepared to take to armed uprising if Trump is removed from office or even loses the next election…

Good luck fighting against tanks and a well armed and trained military.

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Teukka  Jul 2, 2018 • 3:28:53am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 3:34:34am

re: #43 Patricia Kayden

Good luck fighting against tanks and a well armed and trained military.

they have been studying asymmetrical warfare

they are convinced they are Wolverines

and Patriots

and nothing will convince them otherwise

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 3:35:17am

re: #44 Teukka

Trump has offered to return Alaska in exchange for letting me keep Crimea.

Don’t give in so easily! Demand the return of Fort Ross!!!

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William Lewis  Jul 2, 2018 • 3:38:18am

re: #43 Patricia Kayden

Good luck fighting against tanks and a well armed and trained military.

Depends on how many follow Trumps orders. There are hints of the military’s limits in the child concentration camp arguments with senior officers starting to fear mutiny against Trump. It could shatter the military the way 1860 did.

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ObserverArt  Jul 2, 2018 • 4:55:04am

Morning!

I gotta stop reading the over-night comments.

Of course, I also have to stop reading sports news during free agency period.

And political news? No way…too much Trump.

Sigh.

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freetoken  Jul 2, 2018 • 5:02:43am

On Saturday I post some caps of radar images showing widespread heavy thunderstorms in the upper midwest.

Turns out there was quite a bit of flooding in the Des Moines area: This is how much it rained in the Des Moines metro Saturday night

In the long term, such as in a century, torrential rainfall will become more common, as global surface temperature rise is accompanied by increased water in the atmosphere. The eastern half of the US will suffer from this, while we out west will dry out.

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ObserverArt  Jul 2, 2018 • 5:06:04am

re: #49 freetoken

On Saturday I post some caps of radar images showing widespread heavy thunderstorms in the upper midwest.

Turns out there was quite a bit of flooding in the Des Moines area: This is how much it rained in the Des Moines metro Saturday night

In the long term, such as in a century, torrential rainfall will become more common, as global surface temperature rise is accompanied by increased water in the atmosphere. The eastern half of the US will suffer from this, while we out west will dry out.

There has been more flash flooding from quick but concentrated heavy downpours this spring and summer in Ohio than I can remember.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 5:06:22am

re: #49 freetoken

Turns out there was quite a bit of flooding in the Des Moines area: This is how much it rained in the Des Moines metro Saturday night

re. The eastern half of the US will suffer from this, while we out west will dry out.

one thing that won me over to metric is how they give precipitation: in liters per square meter.

One liter is 1/1000 cubic meter (it also weighs one kilo) which, spread over one square meter, is one millimeter deep. So it tells us the depth of the water and the amount (and the weight to boot) all in one figure.

so what does it mean in terms of volume or weight when we get 1/8” of rain? You need a ton of tables to work it out…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 5:07:15am

re: #50 ObserverArt

There has been more flash flooding from quick but concentrated heavy downpours this spring and summer in Ohio than I can remember.

We have the same issue on the Rhine. Our valley got flooded out two years ago and the same recently happened to other neighboring valley with intense, concentrated local downpours.

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jeffreyw  Jul 2, 2018 • 5:27:46am

Imgur


Good morning!

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steve_davis  Jul 2, 2018 • 5:28:44am

re: #20 Single-handed sailor

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is something true, or is it false? if it is false, it is false. not mostly false.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 5:29:19am

re: #54 steve_davis

is something true, or is it false? if it is false, it is false. not mostly false.

nuance and context

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 5:34:07am
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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 5:37:26am

re: #36 Barefoot Grin

It’s all about that base:

Once again, Donald can’t even get that right. He’s just running the antebellum Democrats all over again.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 2, 2018 • 5:41:19am

It’s more evident every day that Trump is the first White Trash President.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 2, 2018 • 5:43:30am

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 2, 2018 • 5:44:15am

The right’s constant yelping about the “violent left” has reached the level of mass hysteria. Alex Jones, SMOTI, Breitbart and hordes of even lesser lights have picked up the theme. Their evidence, as usual, was pulled out of their ass but the increasingly shrill warnings focus sharply on gunfire as the final solution. I think their leaders (including those in Moscow) are tuning them up for a massacre, possibly during the big anti-Trump protests planned for the 4th.


Wilkes, btw is the Lubbock radio host who was featured in LGF Pages a little over 2 years ago :
Lubbock Radio Host: Orlando Victims Were ‘Getting Lit, Using Illegal Drugs and Spreading STDs’
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 5:44:34am

re: #58 Joe Bacon 🌹

It’s more evident every day that Trump is the first White Trash President.

It certainly describes his taste and his lifestyle

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 5:46:19am

re: #60 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The right’s constant yelping about the “violent left” has reached the level of mass hysteria. Alex Jones, SMOTI, Breitbart and hordes of even lesser lights have picked up the theme.

Because “push back” means “engage in violence”…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 2, 2018 • 5:47:14am

re: #32 Cheechako

On my calendar.

Due to the ferry schedule, it’s arrive late at night on the 20th and leave in the afternoon of the 22nd.

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Lupin  Jul 2, 2018 • 5:47:33am

re: #43 Patricia Kayden

Good luck fighting against tanks and a well armed and trained military.

I do not entirely agree.

Years ago I got into an argument on DKos by pointing out that even a seemingly stable country — Yugoslavia under Tito, but one with deep repressed divisions — could degenerate into a style of urban guerilla and warfare (i.e.: Sarajevo) against which traditional army is mostly powerless.

I’m not saying this will happen in the U.S., but I’m less sure today that it won’t than I was then. Sarajevo before the break-up of Yugoslavia wasn’t that different from most western cities.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 5:48:45am

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because “push back” means “engage in violence”…

Ask MLK.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 2, 2018 • 5:48:54am

re: #59 Joe Bacon 🌹

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LGF, 6-27-2013

Lubbock has one abortion provider and they perform these services just one day a week. The security guards arrive early, with shotguns in plain sight, followed shortly by the staff and a regular mob of loafers who stand across the street waving signs and screaming abuse at anyone within earshot, including the terrified teenagers who make up the majority of the clients.

I’ve mentioned before that I know one of those security guards. The clinic just closed and I just talked to him. He said the protesters were more aggressive than usual today, despite the 105 degree heat. One of the regular agitators, a fundy preacher who looks remarkably like the young Richard Nixon, ran halfway into the street where he started doing some sort of dance and making weird faces, like a deranged organ grinder’s monkey. Others challenged the guards to come over and fight. There were the usual curses, imprecations, and predictions of anal rape by demons once the “baby killers” arrive in hell. Some of them taunt staff, patients, and guards alike with the names of doctors assassinated by anti-abortion terrorists. The place is arranged to keep patients as far from the mob as possible, and out of sight, but they can still hear the demented cursing and chanting from the devoted Christians across the street.

This kind of insane theater plays out every day at hundreds of clinics around the country, with almost no attention from the media.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 5:53:25am

re: #60 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

The right’s constant yelping about the “violent left” has reached the level of mass hysteria. Alex Jones, SMOTI, Breitbart and hordes of even lesser lights have picked up the theme. Their evidence, as usual, was pulled out of their ass but the increasingly shrill warnings focus sharply on gunfire as the final solution. I think their leaders (including those in Moscow) are tuning them up for a massacre, possibly during the big anti-Trump protests planned for the 4th.

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Wilkes, btw is the Lubbock radio host who was featured in LGF Pages a little over 2 years ago :
Lubbock Radio Host: Orlando Victims Were ‘Getting Lit, Using Illegal Drugs and Spreading STDs’

A liberal was mean to me so bring out the Smith and Weston? I believe that’s the kind of talk that gets one labeled a snowflake.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 2, 2018 • 5:56:13am

re: #64 Lupin

I do not entirely agree.

Years ago I got into an argument on DKos by pointing out that even a seemingly stable country — Yugoslavia under Tito, but one with deep repressed divisions — could degenerate into a style of urban guerilla and warfare (i.e.: Sarajevo) against which traditional army is mostly powerless.

I’m not saying this will happen in the U.S., but I’m less sure today that it won’t than I was then. Sarajevo before the break-up of Yugoslavia wasn’t that different from most western cities.

See also Rwanda.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 5:56:45am

re: #67 HappyWarrior

A liberal was mean to me so bring out the Smith and Weston? I believe that’s the kind of talk that gets one labeled a snowflake.

They are convinced that all liberals want to confiscate our guns, round us up and put us in FEMA reeducation camps. It is imperative to act pre-emptively and shoot first.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 2, 2018 • 5:57:33am

It is practically an article of faith among RWNJs that they have all the guns, and their media emphasize this pretty heavily. This is practically at the level of superstition, reminiscent of the African shamans who supposedly told their followers that they had been granted a magical immunity to European bullets. The results will be similar.

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Lupin  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:03:58am

re: #68 Anymouse 🌹

See also Rwanda.

There is no way to not sound a little racist here, but I think (no personal experience, tho) that Rwanda was less polished, united and stable than the old Yugoslavia — and the U.S. today. Perhaps it was. I don’t know.

But Sarajevo pre-break-up was not so different from, say, Charleston or Baton Rouge. I don’t need to spell out what it became later. Conventional forces were mostly helpless against the kind of urban guerilla warfare. If (big if) your alt.right nazis decide to play that game, you will “lose” a number of you Southern cities.

The major thing that posits against this is, your nazis seem particularly incompetent and ill-fitted to an actual serious fight.

Overall, for all the money spent of your military, it is telling that ultimately, the Russians found it cheaper to just buy your country. As Lenin once said: ‘The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.’

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:06:25am

re: #71 Lupin

There is no way to not sound a little racist here, but I think (no personal experience, tho) that Rwanda was less polished, united and stable than the old Yugoslavia — and the U.S. today. Perhaps it was. I don’t know.

But Sarajevo pre-break-up was not so different from, say, Charleston or Baton Rouge. I don’t need to spell out what it became later. Conventional forces were mostly helpless against the kind of urban guerilla warfare. If (big if) your alt.right nazis decide to play that game, you will “lose” a number of you Southern cities.

The major thing that posits against this is, your nazis seem particularly incompetent and ill-fitted to an actual serious fight.

Overall, for all the money spent of your military, it is telling that ultimately, the Russians found it cheaper to just buy your country. As Lenin once said: ‘The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.’

Well Rwanda had only been independent since 1962. Yugoslavia had been a nation since 1918.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:08:41am

re: #71 Lupin

Overall, for all the money spent of your military, it is telling that ultimately, the Russians found it cheaper to just buy your country. As Lenin once said: ‘The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.’

They saw a vulnerability: the core of it lay in the fact that our education system had failed to teach people about civics, history and critical reading/thinking.

Made us easy pickings.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:09:22am

re: #72 HappyWarrior

Well Rwanda had only been independent since 1962. Yugoslavia had been a nation since 1918.

Post-Tito Yugoslavia had little to do with the kingdom that was formed in 1918.

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ObserverArt  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:10:13am

re: #69 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are convinced that all liberals want to confiscate our guns, round us up and put us in FEMA reeducation camps. It is imperative to act pre-emptively and shoot first.

“Us?”

Something you want to tell us Wendell?

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A Cranky One  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:12:29am

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:13:06am

re: #66 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

LGF, 6-27-2013

One method of dealing with forced-birthers is the same way a couple in North Carolina did it (for which they used a Twitter handle and hashtag “Saturday Chores”).

Counter-pickets with signs ridiculing the antis.

They also noted that if they can get a permit to be there, so can you. If you get a permit for their usual picketing spot, they can’t use it.

They eventually raised money for a privacy fence around the clinic, which ended the pickets.

Others have taken up their cause with silly picket signs ridiculing antis around the country.

saturdaychores.tumblr.com

Also (at) saturdaychores on Twitter.

It is a violation of the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act of 1994 if any person going to a clinic is harassed by protestors. That is a federal crime and can be reported to a US Attorney, or to a private attorney for a lawsuit.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:13:12am

Republicans in Michigan are pushing to remove “democratic” and “democracy” from social studies. The DK diary references a Washington Post article. It’s as bad as we’ve come to expect from Michigan Republicans.

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Lupin  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:14:24am

re: #73 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They saw a vulnerability: the core of it lay in the fact that our education system had failed to teach people about civics, history and critical reading/thinking.

Made us easy pickings.

True enough, but they still bought Trump, and through him, let’s call it a controlling share of the U.S.

Of course, no one before Putin realized the US was actually for sale.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:16:04am

re: #79 Lupin

True enough, but they still bought Trump, and through him, let’s call it a controlling share of the U.S.

Of course, no one before Putin realized the US was actually for sale.

Buying Trump was one thing. Using him to break through our weak spots was a stroke of Evil Genius.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:16:41am

re: #78 Belafon

Republicans in Michigan are pushing to remove “democratic” and “democracy” from social studies. The DK diary references a Washington Post article. It’s as bad as we’ve come to expect from Michigan Republicans.

Then we should remove “To the Republic for which it stands” from the Pledge of Allegiance…

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Lupin  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:20:40am

re: #80 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Buying Trump was one thing. Using him to break through our weak spots was a stroke of Evil Genius.

Give it another year, I think, and we can officially declare that Russia won the Cold War and likely the first major geopolitical battle of the 21st century.

I wonder if I can trademark “burger-eating surrender monkeys”?

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wheat-dogg  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:21:47am

re: #78 Belafon

Republicans in Michigan are pushing to remove “democratic” and “democracy” from social studies. The DK diary references a Washington Post article. It’s as bad as we’ve come to expect from Michigan Republicans.

Taking their cues from the Chinese government, I see.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:22:24am

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Post-Tito Yugoslavia had little to do with the kingdom that was formed in 1918.

Well what I meant was the people in Yugoslavia from 1918-92 lived together as countrymen and women.

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Lupin  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:22:44am

As in: “When I think we were all worried about uberhawk John Bolton, but he turned out to be just another cowardly burger-eating surrender monkey tm”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:22:53am

re: #78 Belafon

Republicans in Michigan are pushing to remove “democratic” and “democracy” from social studies. The DK diary references a Washington Post article. It’s as bad as we’ve come to expect from Michigan Republicans.

WTF

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Lupin  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:23:35am

re: #84 HappyWarrior

Well what I meant was the people in Yugoslavia from 1918-92 lived together as countrymen and women.

Food for thought, eh?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:24:27am

re: #82 Lupin

Give it another year, I think, and we can officially declare that Russia won the Cold War and likely the first major geopolitical battle of the 21st century.

I wonder if I can trademark “burger-eating surrender monkeys”?

So in 1992 I was working for a Western company in Moscow. Several of our local colleagues were still members of the Communist Party. I asked one of them why he was still a member of a party that was clearly on the losing side of history.

He gave me a very serious look and said “Мы победим.” (We will prevail)

Now I start to understand what he meant…

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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:24:36am

re: #6 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Money laundering is the one about which I am most confident. The ultimate, the (cell) door slammer? It has to be something very big. The pee-tape is nothing, a distraction that the Trump cult would laugh off.
I think he is complicit in Russian-executed murders.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:25:06am

re: #87 Lupin

Food for thought, eh?

Oh yeah for sure. I think our situation is more like 1930’s Spain but early 90’s Yugoslavia could work too.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:25:46am

The flip-side is that either Democrat is ahead of the Republican in the Michigan governors race:

Finally, Target-Insyght tests Schuette against both Whitmer and Thanedar (they did not ask about the Senate race). They give Whitmer a 42-37 lead, while Thanedar posts a similar 40-37 edge. The last general election poll we saw was an EPIC-MRA survey at the start of May that found Whitmer ahead 43-38 and Thanedar up 44-38.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:26:03am

I doubt that Trump will see the inside of a jail, and even if his entire fortune is confiscated, the only people to lose will be his associates. He will be guaranteed a lifetime income from TV, speeches and public appearances…

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:26:49am

re: #82 Lupin

Give it another year, I think, and we can officially declare than Russia won the Cold War and likely the first major geopolitical battle of the 21st century.

I wonder if I can trademark “burger-eating surrender monkeys”?

If China ends up running the world, did Russia win the Cold War?

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:28:25am

re: #92 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I doubt that Trump will see the inside of a jail, and even if his entire fortune is confiscated, the only people to lose will be his associates. He will be guaranteed a lifetime income from TV, speeches and public appearances…

He’ll owe half of it to Melania, which he’ll blow before hand, and so we’ll have an interesting case of a former president being hounded by the government for being delinquent on alimony and child support.

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Lupin  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:28:35am

re: #90 HappyWarrior

Oh yeah for sure. I think our situation is more like 1930’s Spain but early 90’s Yugoslavia could work too.

I agree with you regarding the divisions, but my point here would be that Spain degenerated into a regular civil war fought by conventional means, whereas Yugoslavia simply disintegrated like Lebanon and became a urban hell with snipers shooting in the streets. Imagine, say, Houston turning into that sort of nightmare; what will the US army do then? Bomb it into a pancake?

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Lupin  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:29:24am

re: #93 Belafon

If China ends up running the world, did Russia win the Cold War?

I think the Chinese are playing a longer game. The Russians just want us to eat the same sh*t than they did. It’s revenge porn.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:30:05am

re: #96 Lupin

I think the Chinese are playing a longer game. The Russians just want us to eat the same sh*t than they did. It’s revenge porn.

Then that’s not the Cold War.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:31:56am

re: #95 Lupin

I agree with you regarding the divisions, but my point here would be that Spain degenerated into a regular civil war fought by conventional means, whereas Yugoslavia simply disintegrated like Lebanon and became a urban hell with snipers shooting in the streets. Imagine, say, Houston turning into that sort of nightmare; what will the US army do then? Bomb it into a pancake?

That’s true. I’m thinking more about causes btw and similarities in the nation state. But not every situation is the same.

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Lupin  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:32:02am

re: #92 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I doubt that Trump will see the inside of a jail, and even if his entire fortune is confiscated, the only people to lose will be his associates. He will be guaranteed a lifetime income from TV, speeches and public appearances…

I’m with you there; I think he’ll end up victim of dementia in Mar-a-Lago, but otherwise “safe”. However i think his organization will be razed to the ground, and Don & Eric & Jared may still see the inside of a cell. I’d lay a bet we will see the NY “Trump Tower” renamed within the next five years..

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Lupin  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:32:56am

re: #97 Belafon

Then that’s not the Cold War.

To me yes it is, round II.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:33:53am

China will be interesting to watch. I hear the one child policy and the sexist ramifications of it - favoring boys to girls is about to take place but Xi is using soft power to spread China’s influence all around the world while consolidating his own power.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:34:25am

re: #78 Belafon

Republicans in Michigan are pushing to remove “democratic” and “democracy” from social studies. The DK diary references a Washington Post article. It’s as bad as we’ve come to expect from Michigan Republicans.

The same schmuck behind that is also behind this:

Michigan Republicans Manage to Tie Anti-Vaccine and Anti-Abortion Propaganda Into One Bill (Goes to Splinter, more at the link):

What do you do when you want conservative, Catholic parents to stop vaccinating their kids? You tell them the vaccines are made out of “aborted fetal tissue.”

The Michigan state legislature is considering a new Republican-backed bill, SB 1055, which would require healthcare officials to ask for informed consent before giving vaccines with “aborted fetal tissue,” a.k.a. cells of legally aborted fetuses from the 1960s. These cells were not acquired for the purpose of making these vaccines and are multiplied over and over again. No new cells have been extracted ever since.

Vaccines with such cells include those against diseases known to be highly contagious, like measles, chicken pox and hepatitis.

What happened to my birth state? Where did all the wingnuts come from? As conservative as Nebraska is, it isn’t crazy like that.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:36:05am

re: #84 HappyWarrior

Well what I meant was the people in Yugoslavia from 1918-92 lived together as countrymen and women.

That started to fall apart in the 80’s…

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ObserverArt  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:37:30am

Heh,

Just checking my ATT/Yahoo email account and the home page has an article up from a Good Morning America interview Michael Cohen did with George Stephanopoulus.

Cohen claims he will “not be a punching bag in anyone else’s defense strategy.” He also said that his wife, children and country have his first loyalty - not Donald Trump.

We shall see. I’m not too trusting of anything anyone associated with Trump says until it is in courtroom under sworn testimony with penalties attached.

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lawhawk  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:38:04am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the sweltering and sultry NYC metro area. Looks like our heat wave wont abate until Saturday when a front comes through. In the meantime, it means hydrating and staying cool where possible.

Of course, that’s hard to do when Trump’s assaulting everyone’s civil and voting rights and readying another supreme court pick who has already been vetted by the right wing extremists to make sure that they have someone who will roll back civil and voting rights, overturn Roe (and Griswold, Obergefell, etc.) and leave us with a judiciary stacked with right wingers for decades to come.

I’m seeing how some are claiming that Democrats didn’t focus nearly enough on the role of shaping the courts in the election, but that’s nonsense. Hillary on down did put that in stark terms. Those calls fell on deaf ears, and now we’re seeing the consequences of those actions.

re: #6 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Things Mueller has on Trumpworld:
1) Obstruction of justice - actively interfering in the ongoing investigation.
2) Manafort’s criminal conduct as a foreign agent in shaping entire admin from Pence on down.
3) Flynn as a foreign agent pushed foreign interests instead of American foreign interests.
4) the June 2016 Russia meeting - conspiracy against the US. Trump had his top campaign people meet with Russian agents. The act itself is an act in furtherance of a criminal conspiracy - it doesn’t matter that Trump wasn’t personally present. He was fine with having Russians and foreigners assist him in beating Clinton, and publicly stated as much.
5) conspiring with Devin Nunes to obstruct justice.

Throw in the perjury and other conspiracy claims, and then there are the financial crimes that apply at both the federal and state level, and there’s so much more here. That’s why wrapping this case up in such a short timeframe is going to be hard. Moreover, Trump continues interfering in the investigation almost daily - including interfering in the investigation by witness tampering (additional charge).

Witness tampering is the charge that got Manafort thrown in jail while awaiting his own trial.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:38:18am

re: #102 Anymouse 🌹

The same schmuck behind that is also behind this:

Michigan Republicans Manage to Tie Anti-Vaccine and Anti-Abortion Propaganda Into One Bill (Goes to Splinter, more at the link):

What happened to my birth state? Where did all the wingnuts come from? As conservative as Nebraska is, it isn’t crazy like that.

Hasn’t Michigan lost a lot of population? Maybe these people didn’t come from anywhere but are those who remained. It’s kind of the opposite of what’s happened here in Virginia.

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Lupin  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:38:22am

James Mattis hints Britain could be replaced by France as Washington’s closest ally (The Guardian)

Not if Trump pulls out of NATO; then Mattis can kiss its bases good-bye. I never rooted for the Generals in Seven Days in May, but maybe I should take another look at that film.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:38:36am

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That started to fall apart in the 80’s…

I know the history. It was always a power keg even before Tito.

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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:39:48am

Today’s take from the WaPo.

A bad week for Democrats gives rise to a big problem: Outrage could become an obstacle in midterms.

Growing liberal agitation over a pivotal Supreme Court retirement and a simmering crisis about immigrant child separation have left Democratic leaders scrambling to keep the political outrage they’d counted on to fuel midterm election wins from becoming a liability for the party.

Internal party debates have broken into public view over maintaining civility and the usefulness of liberal slogans like “abolish ICE,” which some Republicans have embraced to argue falsely that Democrats oppose immigration enforcement. At the same time, liberal activists have begun to argue for more radical measures to counter President Trump, who they assert presents an immediate threat to the republic.

Others like Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.), a likely presidential candidate in 2020, called Sunday for more street protests, along the lines of the 750 rallies that were held Saturday to protest the continued separation of immigrant children from their parents.

“It is up to each of us to use our voices and take to the streets to fight for who we are,” she tweeted Sunday.

Other Democrats have called for caution, wary that shifting focus from the midterm elections would be counterproductive, as would a divisive intraparty fight over what makes up acceptable policy positions.

Obama urged Democrats at a fundraiser in Beverly Hills on Thursday to aim their energies squarely on the ballot box in November, saying that “it is entirely within our power” to solve the political problems of the moment.

“All these people are out here kvetching and wringing their hands and stressed and anxious and, you know, constantly watching cable TV and howling at the moon, ‘What are we going to do?’ Their hair is falling out,” said Obama, arguing for a reasoned response. “The good news is that if you act, if we act, then the majority of the American people prefer a story of hope.”

Others have cautioned that liberal demands for transformative policies, including abolishment of the Immigrations and Customs Enforcement agency and costly guarantees of government jobs, free health care and free college could backfire in parts of the country where Trump won in 2016, and where Democrats will have to win in November to reclaim control of Congress.

“There is a big difference between a strategic message targeted to win an election and an emotional call like ‘Abolish ICE,’ ” said former congressman Steve Israel (N.Y.), who led the Democratic House election effort for two cycles. “One feels good for the person screaming, and one works for the person voting.”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:40:57am

re: #109 MsJ

Today’s take from the WaPo.

A bad week for Democrats gives rise to a big problem: Outrage could become an obstacle in midterms.

I don’t see Abolish ICE as emotion driven.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:41:09am

re: #90 HappyWarrior

Oh yeah for sure. I think our situation is more like 1930’s Spain but early 90’s Yugoslavia could work too.

When we were in Poland, people asked us why we would want to go back to the USA because they saw things falling apart here (as in civil war) in the near future.

Up the thread I noted that several Canadians at Wonkette last night suggested I ask for political asylum as an “opposition politician” when we are in Canada.

I don’t know how interested in a vice-mayor of a town of 132 they would be, but when people keep telling you “why are you staying there” you start wondering.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:41:37am

Thing is the R’s wok the House simply on emotion in 2010.

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Lupin  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:41:37am

re: #108 HappyWarrior

I know the history. It was always a power keg even before Tito.

For the record I did vacation in Sarajevo in the 70s and it was lovely and peaceful and didn’t feel like a powder keg — but i didn’t speak the language(s), so I’ll admit I could have been fooled.

(But Spain even then did feel like a powder keg.)

How much of a powder keg are we (you) then right now?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:42:43am

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹

When we were in Poland, people asked us why we would want to go back to the USA because they saw things falling apart here (as in civil war) in the near future.

Up the thread I noted that several Canadians at Wonkette last night suggested I ask for political asylum as an “opposition politician” when we are in Canada.

I don’t know how interested in a vice-mayor of a town of 132 they would be, but when people keep telling you “why are you staying there” you start wondering.

I told my Canadian cousins who offered me a couch in Toronto to sleep on: “I’m not going to let the bastards win.”

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jaunte  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:43:00am
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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:43:10am

re: #109 MsJ

Today’s take from the WaPo.

A bad week for Democrats gives rise to a big problem: Outrage could become an obstacle in midterms.

I like this diary’s take, that all of these articles are coming in order to divide the Democrats before the midterms.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:43:50am

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹

When we were in Poland, people asked us why we would want to go back to the USA because they saw things falling apart here (as in civil war) in the near future.

Up the thread I noted that several Canadians at Wonkette last night suggested I ask for political asylum as an “opposition politician” when we are in Canada.

I don’t know how interested in a vice-mayor of a town of 132 they would be, but when people keep telling you “why are you staying there” you start wondering.

I didn’t get that when I was abroad last summer but a lot had gotten worse since then. I leave for Bratislava next month.

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Lupin  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:44:59am

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹

When we were in Poland, people asked us why we would want to go back to the USA because they saw things falling apart here (as in civil war) in the near future.

Up the thread I noted that several Canadians at Wonkette last night suggested I ask for political asylum as an “opposition politician” when we are in Canada.

I don’t know how interested in a vice-mayor of a town of 132 they would be, but when people keep telling you “why are you staying there” you start wondering.

I moved to the US in 1978 and lived there until 2004. What I saw starting with the Clinton impeachment, then after 9/11, Bush, the Iraq War, etc. convinced us it was time to leave. Lots of canaries in the mine, as it were.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:45:24am

re: #109 MsJ

Today’s take from the WaPo.

A bad week for Democrats gives rise to a big problem: Outrage could become an obstacle in midterms.

A made-up issue from the rabid right becomes a problem for Democrats.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:45:26am

re: #115 jaunte

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Gettysburg and Vicksburg were won in the same week, pretty cool.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:46:38am

re: #113 Lupin

For the record I did vacation in Sarajevo in the 70s and it was lovely and peaceful and didn’t feel like a powder keg — but i didn’t speak the language(s), so I’ll admit I could have been fooled.

(But Spain even then did feel like a powder keg.)

How much of a powder keg are we (you) then right now?

I recall visiting Zagreb in 1989, just before the big shooting match started and was wondering why almost all of the young men (and many of the women) were sporting military uniforms…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:47:19am

re: #113 Lupin

For the record I did vacation in Sarajevo in the 70s and it was lovely and peaceful and didn’t feel like a powder keg — but i didn’t speak the language(s), so I’ll admit I could have been fooled.

(But Spain even then did feel like a powder keg.)

How much of a powder keg are we (you) then right now?

You were there when Tito was in power still. So that helped. Honestly, I don’t know for sure but I do think we will experience a second Civil War in my lifetime- I’m 30. No idea what to expect.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:47:38am

Don’t know if its been mentioned yet, but Susan Collins expressed her readiness to vote for a Trump nominee who has not openly expressed their hostility to Roe, and she claims to believe Roberts and Gorsuch won’t vote to reverse it. What they definitely will do, however is allow states to regulate clinics out of existence, even if they technically remain legal.

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Lupin  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:47:45am

re: #114 I Would Prefer Not To

I told my Canadian cousins who offered me a couch in Toronto to sleep on: “I’m not going to let the bastards win.”

When I was in Business School in Paris, my Spanish language TA was a man who’d managed to leave Chile (Pinochet’s) by the skin of his teeth. As he told story, a couple of hours later, he would have been arrested and disappeared. And he was just a language teacher.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:48:00am

re: #120 HappyWarrior

Gettysburg and Vicksburg were won in the same week, pretty cool.

And the people of Vicksburg did not celebrate the 4th of again July until WW2.

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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:48:21am

re: #116 Belafon

I like this diary’s take, that all of these articles are coming in order to divide the Democrats before the midterms.

Linky no worky.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:48:48am

re: #125 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And the people of Vicksburg did not celebrate the 4th of again July until WW2.

I’ve heard that. And they lecture us on patriotism.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:49:24am

re: #124 Lupin

When I was in Business School in Paris, my Spanish language TA was a man who’d managed to leave Chile (Pinochet’s) by the skin of his teeth. As he told story, a couple of hours later, he would have been arrested and disappeared. And he was just a language teacher.

And Pinochet you of course know was our man there sigh.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:49:49am

re: #106 HappyWarrior

Hasn’t Michigan lost a lot of population? Maybe these people didn’t come from anywhere but are those who remained. It’s kind of the opposite of what’s happened here in Virginia.

Could be, they lost me. /s

A series of fourteen tweets by a physician on this stupendously dishonest anti-vax bill in the Michigan legislature, brought to you by the same guy who is trying to revise textbooks to remove democracy and civil rights:

The Splinter article liked above notes the Catholic Church has no problem with vaccines derived from “foetal tissue” in the Sixties. The bill is designed to scare Catholic and other religious laity who accept assertions without evidence.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:50:38am

re: #122 HappyWarrior

You were there when Tito was in power still. So that helped. Honestly, I don’t know for sure but I do think we will experience a second Civil War in my lifetime- I’m 30. No idea what to expect.

I don’t. An uptick in white nationalist terrorism yes, but not a full scale civil war. But I may be wrong if Trump loses the 2020 election, then refuses to leave office because of “massive voter fraud.”

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Lupin  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:51:00am

re: #122 HappyWarrior

You were there when Tito was in power still. So that helped. Honestly, I don’t know for sure but I do think we will experience a second Civil War in my lifetime- I’m 30. No idea what to expect.

Yes Tito was in power when I was there; same with Spain; when I went there, Franco still ruled and had some Basque garrotted only a year before. But in my youthful and inexperienced eyes, Spain did feel like a country under the fascist boot, while Yugoslavia didn’t.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:51:49am

re: #126 MsJ

Linky no worky.

Try it again.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:52:18am

re: #114 I Would Prefer Not To

I told my Canadian cousins who offered me a couch in Toronto to sleep on: “I’m not going to let the bastards win.”

Yup. Generations of my family have affirmed to uphold and defend the Constitution. Every person in my family who has done so views that as a lifelong commitment.

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Lupin  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:52:19am

re: #128 HappyWarrior

And Pinochet you of course know was our man there sigh.

Oh yes. That murderous coup was on 9/11 you know. Karma is a bitch.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:52:23am

re: #124 Lupin

When I was in Business School in Paris, my Spanish language TA was a man who’d managed to leave Chile (Pinochet’s) by the skin of his teeth. As he told story, a couple of hours later, he would have been arrested and disappeared. And he was just a language teacher.

This is a good article about James Buchanan, the economist who promoted oligarchic economics along with the Kochs. His trial run was under Pinochet. Now it’s being used against us/US.

ineteconomics.org

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:53:13am

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹

I’ve never had any problem with vaccines derived from Jovian citizens.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:53:31am

re: #101 HappyWarrior

China will be interesting to watch. I hear the one child policy and the sexist ramifications of it - favoring boys to girls is about to take place but Xi is using soft power to spread China’s influence all around the world while consolidating his own power.

Point of order: the one-child policy is now history. A few years ago, couples were allowed to have two kids if each partner was an only child. Then the restrictions were relaxed even more to let all couples have two kids. There is now talk that the population controls will be abolished altogether, for two reasons: the skewed male:female ratio and the realization the nation needs more workers to support an aging population.

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Lupin  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:53:58am

re: #130 Big Beautiful Door

I don’t. An uptick in white nationalist terrorism yes, but not a full scale civil war. But I may be wrong if Trump loses the 2020 election, then refuses to leave office because of “massive voter fraud.”

My honest-to-God fears are snipers and the breakdown of civil order in some areas. Not Mad Max.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:55:57am

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹

Here we go again, antivaxers trying to hijack antiabortionists (or is it the other way around?) to frighten parents into not vaccinating by portraying vaccines as somehow hopelessly “contaminated” by “fetal tissue.”

antivax again is where anti-Big Pharma, anti-Western Medicine moonbats overlap with anti-Big-Government, anti-Big Science wingnuts.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:57:16am

re: #135 Barefoot Grin

This is a good article about James Buchanan, the economist who promoted oligarchic economics along with the Kochs. His trial run was under Pinochet. Now it’s being used against us/US.

ineteconomics.org

Buchanan subscribes to the Austrian school of economics. The linked article describes a man who makes Ayn Rand seem cute and cuddly.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:57:17am

re: #109 MsJ

What nonsense and hogwash. Civility isn’t a one-way street. We do not owe civility to intolerant, dangerous bigots. The MSM needs to stop threatening Democrats that we have to be civil to Republicans or else.

I don’t see them demanding that Trump and his racist supporters be civil to their political opponents.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:57:29am

re: #130 Big Beautiful Door

I don’t. An uptick in white nationalist terrorism yes, but not a full scale civil war. But I may be wrong if Trump loses the 2020 election, then refuses to leave office because of “massive voter fraud.”

There will be a Civil War on the Internet for sure, and I am sure that there are people ready to resort to armed resistance if Trump is removed from office by impeachment or by results of a “fraudulent” election.

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jaunte  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:57:51am

re: #130 Big Beautiful Door

I don’t. An uptick in white nationalist terrorism yes, but not a full scale civil war. But I may be wrong if Trump loses the 2020 election, then refuses to leave office because of “massive voter fraud.”

I continue to have faith in the essential laziness of the people calling for other folks to rise up in a civil war.

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lawhawk  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:58:55am

re: #123 Big Beautiful Door

Don’t know if its been mentioned yet, but Susan Collins expressed her readiness to vote for a Trump nominee who has not openly expressed their hostility to Roe, and she claims to believe Roberts and Gorsuch won’t vote to reverse it. What they definitely will do, however is allow states to regulate clinics out of existence, even if they technically remain legal.

Trump’s list of candidates has all been vetted by Heritage and Federalists - they weren’t going to approve of a candidate who wasn’t intent on destroying women’s rights - including Roe, Griswold, and decades of social progress.

Trump doesn’t have to ask. It’d have already been answered.

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Lupin  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:59:08am

re: #135 Barefoot Grin

This is a good article about James Buchanan, the economist who promoted oligarchic economics along with the Kochs. His trial run was under Pinochet. Now it’s being used against us/US.

ineteconomics.org

This is a remarkable article. I’m forwarding the link to several friends here. Thank you!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 6:59:39am

re: #137 wheat-dogg

Point of order: the one-child policy is now history. A few years ago, couples were allowed to have two kids if each partner was an only child. Then the restrictions were relaxed even more to let all couples have two kids. There is now talk that the population controls will be abolished altogether, for two reasons: the skewed male:female ratio and the realization the nation needs more workers to support an aging population.

So when I cannot fall asleep at night, I stay awake thinking about that massive male surplus population: means they could afford to engage in a conventional war and lose millions and millions…and even if their gains are minimal, they will have helped solve a demographic problem.

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ObserverArt  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:00:24am

re: #102 Anymouse 🌹

The same schmuck behind that is also behind this:

Michigan Republicans Manage to Tie Anti-Vaccine and Anti-Abortion Propaganda Into One Bill (Goes to Splinter, more at the link):

What happened to my birth state? Where did all the wingnuts come from? As conservative as Nebraska is, it isn’t crazy like that.

Michigan has long had its problems. In some ways it is “Militia Army” central. All because of Detroit being if not at one time the Black major city in America it was the Black major large city in Michigan.

Now that you have the crazy Michigan Republicans in charge and Trump it seems the crazy people of Michigan are free to be what they probably have always been.

Ohio showed traits of that too in the last election. The fact that we have several large major cities with large populations of people of color probably keeps the rhetoric down, but it is still there. The farmlands of Jim Jordan and the Appalachian hills of the southeast elected Trump. They came out to vote like they haven’t in ages.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:01:15am

re: #138 Lupin

My honest-to-God fears are snipers and the breakdown of civil order in some areas. Not Mad Max.

I see that coming in the wake of the next major natural and/or man-made disaster á la New Orleans. It’s gonna look like Somalia out there with armed militias out in their SUV’s gunning down everything they find suspicious or threatening.

And when the National Guard comes in to restore order and basic services, it is going to turn into armed insurgency.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:01:26am

re: #130 Big Beautiful Door

I don’t. An uptick in white nationalist terrorism yes, but not a full scale civil war. But I may be wrong if Trump loses the 2020 election, then refuses to leave office because of “massive voter fraud.”

I’m really afraid of that.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:02:26am

re: #137 wheat-dogg

Point of order: the one-child policy is now history. A few years ago, couples were allowed to have two kids if each partner was an only child. Then the restrictions were relaxed even more to let all couples have two kids. There is now talk that the population controls will be abolished altogether, for two reasons: the skewed male:female ratio and the realization the nation needs more workers to support an aging population.

Ah thanks. Didn’t know that.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:02:29am

re: #130 Big Beautiful Door

I don’t. An uptick in white nationalist terrorism yes, but not a full scale civil war. But I may be wrong if Trump loses the 2020 election, then refuses to leave office because of “massive voter fraud.”

I’d agree. I don’t see a full-on Civil War 2.0, but I can quite easily foresee a major uptick in white nationalist/white separatist domestic terrorism. Bombings, the occasional massacre and targeted assassinations.

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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:03:45am

re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So when I cannot fall asleep at night, I stay awake thinking about that massive male surplus population: means they could afford to engage in a conventional war and lose millions and millions…and even if their gains are minimal, they will have helped solve a demographic problem.

Aren’t most of the single male population too old to be in the military?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:04:10am

re: #151 Dr Lizardo

I’d agree. I don’t see a full-on Civil War 2.0, but I can quite easily foresee a major uptick in white nationalist/white separatist domestic terrorism. Bombings, the occasional massacre and targeted assassinations.

I do agree that’s far more likely than civil war.

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fern01  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:07:05am

re: #60 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

All I can remember is the real violence of the tea party when they were attacking Congress members over the ACA. Gabby Giffords is our memory of those times - yet the media loves to forget such things. Democrats since forever have turned the other cheek. Easy to pick the real Christians.

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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:11:08am

Posted just because I. LOVE. THIS. GIF.

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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:12:22am

In Cleveland. Yikes.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:16:32am

re: #156 MsJ

In Cleveland. Yikes.

So, was the Deep State plot to cause an attack that would threaten democracy, or to prevent an attack that would threaten democracy?

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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:19:52am
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sagehen  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:20:24am

re: #77 Anymouse 🌹

It is a violation of the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act of 1994 if any person going to a clinic is harassed by protestors. That is a federal crime and can be reported to a US Attorney, or to a private attorney for a lawsuit.

um… the Roberts court overturned that one. It’s a matter of “religious freedom” that they should be able to do “sidewalk counseling”, no matter how irritating the patients find it.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:24:50am

HA!

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:28:05am

re: #158 MsJ

Then celebrate that there are a whole lot of people turning out to resist.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:32:18am

Are we going to have to post the Independence Day rally speech over the next few days?

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sagehen  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:33:54am

re: #137 wheat-dogg

Point of order: the one-child policy is now history. A few years ago, couples were allowed to have two kids if each partner was an only child. Then the restrictions were relaxed even more to let all couples have two kids. There is now talk that the population controls will be abolished altogether, for two reasons: the skewed male:female ratio and the realization the nation needs more workers to support an aging population.

It boggles the mind to think of a whole generation with no aunts, uncles or cousins.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:35:07am

re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So when I cannot fall asleep at night, I stay awake thinking about that massive male surplus population: means they could afford to engage in a conventional war and lose millions and millions…and even if their gains are minimal, they will have helped solve a demographic problem.

Right now, China does not have conscription. It’s an all-volunteer military, though recruitment does happen. I am not sure what the total enlistment is.

A YouTuber did an interesting report on who in China joins the army.

What Kind of People Join the ARMY in CHINA (PLA)?

But your point is well taken. China has a surplus of men, some of whom are serving in the army and others who have bought officer ranks in the military. (Yes, it is possible.) I’ve read articles proposing that the Chinese military is not really combat-ready at this point, so it’s anyone’s guess how well their servicemen and -women would do in a ground war. Their navy is still outgunned by the US Navy, too.

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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:35:20am
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sagehen  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:36:38am

re: #123 Big Beautiful Door

Don’t know if its been mentioned yet, but Susan Collins expressed her readiness to vote for a Trump nominee who has not openly expressed their hostility to Roe, and she claims to believe Roberts and Gorsuch won’t vote to reverse it. What they definitely will do, however is allow states to regulate clinics out of existence, even if they technically remain legal.

She also voted for the tax bill because they’d “promised” a vote on some other thing that it’s not even worth remembering what it was because they laughed in her face and never had that vote.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:37:22am

re: #165 MsJ

Interesting. Trump’s possible pardon is worth less than cooperating with Mueller, even with SCOTUS deciding that they need to relook at settled double-jeopardy law.

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ObserverArt  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:37:54am

re: #110 HappyWarrior

I don’t see Abolish ICE as emotion driven.

You are right. But it is becoming clear it is media driven to say the liberals are nothing but emotion without party leadership that can’t take on Trump.

Since last week, starting with Chris Matthews going off on Democrats about how they just have to stop the Supreme Court nominee and calling out Schumer and Pelosi as weak, it appears the new media theme is Democrats are powerless.

It sucks, but it seems that is going to be the story. It must sell.

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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:39:21am

re: #167 Belafon

Interesting. Trump’s possible pardon is worth less than cooperating with Mueller, even with SCOTUS deciding that they need to relook at settled double-jeopardy law.

Perhaps he cares something for his family and the thought of a public trial, losing everything, etc., means something to his in terms of protecting his family.

Who knows. It’s the scorpion…he is a scorpion. I don’t expect him to change his nature. We shall see what we see.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:39:59am

Over 800 cryptocurrencies are now dead as bitcoin is 70 percent off its record high

Over 800 cryptocurrencies are now dead and worth less than one cent. New digital tokens are created through initial coin offerings but some of these projects have been scams and many have not materialized into real products. Bitcoin has fallen roughly 70 percent since its record high near $20,000 last year, adding to bearish sentiment around cryptocurrencies.

I’m going to work on my shocked face as my reply…..

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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:40:17am

re: #168 ObserverArt

You are right. But it is becoming clear it is media driven to say the liberals are nothing but emotion without party leadership that can’t take on Trump.

Since last week, starting with Chris Matthews going off on Democrats about how they just have to stop the Supreme Court nominee and calling out Schumer and Pelosi as weak, it appears the new media theme is Democrats are powerless.

It sucks, but it seems that is going to be the story. It must sell.

To be fair, at this point, Democrats *are* powerless.

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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:40:55am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:41:27am

re: #163 sagehen

It boggles the mind to think of a whole generation with no aunts, uncles or cousins.

yep, there goes the concept of extended family

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:41:32am

re: #171 MsJ

To be fair, at this point, Democrats *are* powerless.

And when we hit the streets in numbers that cxan’t be ignored, they become more powerful. They need us, the constituents now.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:42:09am

A public service announcement about pets and fireworks:

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:42:33am

re: #174 Unshaken Defiance

And when we hit the streets in numbers that cxan’t be ignored, they become more powerful. They need us, the constituents now.

A lesson Democrats are finally relearning.

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gwangung  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:44:39am

re: #176 Belafon

A lesson Democrats are finally relearning.

Democratic leadership.

They need to remember the old saying, find the surging crowd and get out in front of it.

People are ANGRY, and they won’t be able to tamp it down; they need to direct it in the right place.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:45:54am

re: #151 Dr Lizardo

I’d agree. I don’t see a full-on Civil War 2.0, but I can quite easily foresee a major uptick in white nationalist/white separatist domestic terrorism. Bombings, the occasional massacre and targeted assassinations.

The best organised group of white separatists in the history of the country since the Civil War was the National Alliance (George Wallace’s youth group transformed after George Wallace left the scene). They raked in millions of dollars every year from owning a record company. They had paid staff in the dozens.

All it took was one audio recording to be leaked where the leader of the group referred to other white supremacists in insulting terms. The groups then tore each other apart, and with it the National Alliance.

It is my basic argument of what conservatism really is over the centuries, the desire to gain or maintain power. Once the other groups which supported the NA saw they were being treated as fools, they started metaphorically shivving each other until NA is now just a very small bunch of nobodies.

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ObserverArt  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:46:09am

re: #117 HappyWarrior

I didn’t get that when I was abroad last summer but a lot had gotten worse since then. I leave for Bratislava next month.

Happy, I made a comment to you a week or so ago that you never responded to about learning a bit about where my Slovak side of the family came from. My cousin who is 100% Slovak (I’m 50-50 with German the other half) seems to think our Grandfather was from Kosice.

It makes sense as it appears Kosice had a pretty good industrial base back at the turn of the 20th Century. My grandfather came to America sponsored by an Ohio manufacturing company due to his expertise as a tool maker.

Anyway…just wanted to toss that in since you are heading over that way.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:48:02am

re: #177 gwangung

Democratic leadership.

They need to remember the old saying, find the surging crowd and get out in front of it.

People are ANGRY, and they won’t be able to tamp it down; they need to direct it in the right place.

Yep. I just think that for far too long, Democratic voters forgot that their role in governing extends beyond voting day. I think they are being reminded of that. Now we just have to hope that all Democrats, even those here, realize that we’re not going to fix everything in one surge. It’s going to take time.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:51:25am

My wife is taking a break from making reservations for our trip. All the far north reservations are done.

She’s doing this on an Excel spreadsheet.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:53:07am

re: #173 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

yep, there goes the concept of extended family

It’s the called the 421 family here. One child, two parents, four grandparents. Most of my college-age students have cousins, because their parents were born before the policy took effect in 1979. There were also loopholes in the regulations. Couples who gave birth to a girl could elect to have another child, in hope of having a boy. Prenatal sex testing was forbidden. Members of minority groups (there are 55 recognized in China besides the Han majority) were exempt. Couples willing to pay a fine could have a second child, though there would be serious trouble if they had a third. So, families with “extra” children would hide them with relatives to raise, and would bribe the local population control officer to look the other way. The laws also permitted divorced couples or widows/widowers who remarried to have another child.

One of my former students, who is Han, has five brothers and sisters. She told me her parents were very clever, but apparently not in the birth control department.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:56:14am

re: #182 wheat-dogg

They were just very clever in not using it.

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ObserverArt  Jul 2, 2018 • 7:59:15am

re: #171 MsJ

To be fair, at this point, Democrats *are* powerless.

Yes…but the theme seems to be because they are angry split Democrats and not about the actual politics of a 49 to 51 Senate majority.

That is a big difference.

They could frame is as how important voting is, but that would apparently piss of Trump and be too much for the media ownership or something.

Instead they make it Democrats are just weak overall…Clinton should have won but didn’t, Schumer is a wimp and no one likes Pelosi.

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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:05:26am

swell

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:08:21am

re: #179 ObserverArt

Happy, I made a comment to you a week or so ago that you never responded to about learning a bit about where my Slovak side of the family came from. My cousin who is 100% Slovak (I’m 50-50 with German the other half) seems to think our Grandfather was from Kosice.

It makes sense as it appears Kosice had a pretty good industrial base back at the turn of the 20th Century. My grandfather came to America sponsored by an Ohio manufacturing company due to his expertise as a tool maker.

Anyway…just wanted to toss that in since you are heading over that way.

Sorry I missed that. Thanks! Kosice is about a hour and a half north of whre I’m going. It’s interesting that my great grandfather became a coal miner in Pennsylvania. Doubt there was much coal mining in Jarabina in the Presov Region. I’ve been talking to cousins. It’s going to be one massive family reunion when I’m there it looks more and more like and man I’m thrilled by that.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:09:03am

re: #172 MsJ

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The latter is the most disconcerting for me. The hatred is one thing but the indifference another.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:11:12am

The markets seem unhappy today. Everything is down, except for Bitcoin.

MAGA!

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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:11:47am

re: #175 Dr. Matt

A public service announcement about pets and fireworks:

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My Sam will get by with hugs - preferably while he is hiding under a blanket. Bo needs meds. He doesn’t want to be touched when he hears thunder. He generally hides in the bathtub, hides in a corner, crawls under the shelves in the pantry, hides in a corner (I keep beds in most places for him, including the bathtub). You cannot comfort Bo because he doesn’t want comfort. He regularly breaks through the gate to the basement and goes down there and hides. He is inconsolable. It’s so hard on him. Fireworks are equally bad. He shakes so bad that when he is doing the rounds of looking for a place to hide and comes into bed for a moment or two, the entire bed shakes.

It breaks my heart. I fear that he is going to stroke out one day. I have never seen a dog who has it as bad as Bo does. Doggie Valium helps.

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ObserverArt  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:12:23am

re: #185 MsJ

swell

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I hope someone(s) with some money on the liberal side of things fight fire with fire.

It is time for a huge campaign against all things Trump and Trump Republicans.

Looks like time for a media war and social media is going to be the battlefield.

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lawhawk  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:13:12am

re: #165 MsJ

That’s where things will quickly escalate, because Trump knows or should know that Cohen will no longer be getting advise to help Trump, but to protect himself - and that means throwing Trump under the bus because Cohen doesn’t want to spend the rest of his existence in prison.

In other news, anyone notice that Rudy’s gone the way of a milk carton missing person ad?

He’s gone radio silent, which can’t be good news for Trump either (well it is good news, just not in the way Trump thinks of it).

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makeitstop  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:17:36am

re: #189 MsJ

My Sam will get by with hugs - preferably while he is hiding under a blanket. Bo needs meds. He doesn’t want to be touched when he hears thunder. He generally hides in the bathtub, hides in a corner, crawls under the shelves in the pantry, hides in a corner (I keep beds in most places for him, including the bathtub). You cannot comfort Bo because he doesn’t want comfort. He regularly breaks through the gate to the basement and goes down there and hides. He is inconsolable. It’s so hard on him. Fireworks are equally bad. He shakes so bad that when he is doing the rounds of looking for a place to hide and comes into bed for a moment or two, the entire bed shakes.

It breaks my heart. I fear that he is going to stroke out one day. I have never seen a dog who has it as bad as Bo does. Doggie Valium helps.

We got a bag of CBD treats for Scout - not because he freaks out at thunder or fireworks (he could GAF), but because he likes to bark. A lot. Especially when we’re all out on the patio. If a leaf trembles in the front yard, he barks at it.

They seem to chill him out pretty nicely. He’ll still bark at other dogs walking by, but he’s more discerning as to what he’ll spend his time borking at.

The treats are made by a company called Pet Releaf.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:18:29am

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹

When we were in Poland, people asked us why we would want to go back to the USA because they saw things falling apart here (as in civil war) in the near future.

Up the thread I noted that several Canadians at Wonkette last night suggested I ask for political asylum as an “opposition politician” when we are in Canada.

I don’t know how interested in a vice-mayor of a town of 132 they would be, but when people keep telling you “why are you staying there” you start wondering.

Did you not say that you work as an editor for a Canadian publisher? You already work for a Canadian company, that surely should go in your favor.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:20:46am

Iranian terror plot thwarted
thedailybeast.com

Four people were arrested Monday for allegedly attempting to bomb a 25,000-person rally for an exiled Iranian opposition group that took place this weekend in a Paris suburb, according to Reuters. The event was attended by Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani, as well as several former European and Arab ministers. Married couple Amir S. and Nasimeh N. were charged with “attempted terrorist murder and preparation of a terrorist act,” Reuters reports, after they were apprehended early Saturday with more than a pound of a powerful explosive known as TATP and a detonation device. An Iranian diplomat assigned to Vienna was also arrested after authorities discovered that he had been in contact with the couple; authorities haven’t released information about the fourth arrested suspect.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:22:13am

re: #188 wheat-dogg

The markets seem unhappy today. Everything is down, except for Bitcoin.

MAGA!

It is a holiday week. Maybe that has something to do with it?

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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:22:17am

re: #191 lawhawk

That’s where things will quickly escalate, because Trump knows or should know that Cohen will no longer be getting advise to help Trump, but to protect himself - and that means throwing Trump under the bus because Cohen doesn’t want to spend the rest of his existence in prison.

In other news, anyone notice that Rudy’s gone the way of a milk carton missing person ad?

He’s gone radio silent, which can’t be good news for Trump either (well it is good news, just not in the way Trump thinks of it).

Rudy is in Europe speaking to some far right group.

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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:23:11am

re: #192 makeitstop

The treats are made by a company called Pet Releaf.

Nice! Thank you.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:25:06am

re: #195 Eclectic Cyborg

It is a holiday week. Maybe that has something to do with it?

Could be, but I would think people would want their trades in before the markets close for the holiday. Seems like they are mostly selling right now.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:25:16am

re: #196 MsJ

Rudy is in Europe speaking to some far right group.

Completely normal activity for the President’s lawyer. //

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:26:07am

re: #199 HappyWarrior

Completely normal activity for the President’s lawyer. //

Hoping Rudy stays in Europe.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:26:43am

re: #189 MsJ

This will be the first July 4th with our furbaby. Not sure what do expect. She is generally a very chill pup. But, we’ll likely be hugging on her as hell breaks loose in the skies.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:27:03am

re: #193 The Vicious Babushka

Did you not say that you work as an editor for a Canadian publisher? You already work for a Canadian company, that surely should go in your favor.

I didn’t mention the Canadian publisher while we were in Poland (and I’m not sure how well editing erotic Romance novels would go over in that rather conservative country in a conversation). (::

That said, the job is more a hobby than something I can live on, and there is no way it could be used to sponsor me into the country.

NAFTA has a list of job descriptions that can be used to work in any of the nations in the trade block, and “librarian” is one of them. My wife maintains her state certification even though she is no longer our town’s library director.

Canada also has strict rules against those with chronic health conditions to prevent those persons from being a burden on the state. Epilepsy falls into that category.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:29:21am

re: #201 Dr. Matt

This will be the first July 4th with our furbaby. Not sure what do expect. She is generally a very chill pup. But, we’ll likely be hugging on her as hell breaks loose in the skies.

Play games with her, that way she learns that what is happening is completely normal nothing to be afraid of.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:34:49am

Lets not forget the felines.

Stay Home if Your Cat is Frightened by Fireworks

Skip the local fireworks celebration and stay home if your cat is frightened. Even if she chooses to hide and not interact with you, it’s safer to be home rather than leave her alone.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:38:53am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:39:08am

re: #204 Unshaken Defiance

True enough: Our cat used to go ballistic when there was gunfire during hunting season. During fireworks season, Felix Randomkitty was an absolute mess.

Last night it sounded like people just outside of town were exploding dynamite, not fireworks.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:41:06am

re: #205 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

If she’d only thought to have multiple affairs, then there’d be nothing to talk about.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:41:57am

re: #205 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Pretty lame. A one time resentment.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:42:11am

re: #207 Belafon

If she’d only thought to have multiple affairs, then there’d be nothing to talk about.

or bragged about grabbing men by the cock.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:43:40am
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jaunte  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:45:28am

re: #210 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

There must be a Federalist Society Generic Face Mold these things get stamped out with.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:45:56am

re: #211 jaunte

There must be a Federalist Society Generic Face Mold these things get stamped out with.

Resting Douche Face.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:47:23am

re: #205 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I really don’t care if Ms Ocasio-Cortez’s political viewpoints and mine do not agree 100%. She’s fresh blood, she’s smart, and most importantly, she’s not a Trumpista. If I lived in the Bronx, I would have voted for her. At age 62 I’ve been rather disillusioned by the actions of my age-peers in Congress. We need younger people (and more working-class people) to shake things up a bit.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:48:50am

This is some good news:

All 12 boys and their football coach have been found alive after nine days missing in caves in Thailand, the regional governor says.

All 13 are safe, the governor confirmed, speaking after a mammoth search operation in the Tham Luang caves in Chiang Rai.

Rescuers had hoped they would find safety from flooding on a mound in an underground chamber.

bbc.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:49:27am

re: #213 wheat-dogg

I really don’t care if Ms Ocasio-Cortez’s political viewpoints and mine do not agree 100%. She’s fresh blood, she’s smart, and most importantly, she’s not a Trumpista. If I lived in the Bronx, I would have voted for her. At age 62 I’ve been rather disillusioned by the actions of my age-peers in Congress. We need younger people (and more working-class people) to shake things up a bit.

I think she’s a breath of fresh air. I don’t care that she supported Bernie. A lot of people our age- she and I are close in age did. What I care about are her values and if she sees the big picture and she hits on both of them. I hope she does well.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:51:49am

re: #159 sagehen

um… the Roberts court overturned that one. It’s a matter of “religious freedom” that they should be able to do “sidewalk counseling”, no matter how irritating the patients find it.

thus the hashtags #notcounseling and #protectthezone:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:52:27am

re: #185 MsJ

Fears grow over deceptive “deepfake” videos made to sway elections

and to “prove” that it was not Trump in the pee tapes

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jaunte  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:52:52am
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unproven innocence  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:53:11am

WATCH LIVE: Sarah Sanders holds White House news briefing
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WATCH LIVE: Sarah Sanders holds White House news briefing

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plansbandc  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:53:26am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:54:11am

re: #84 HappyWarrior

Well what I meant was the people in Yugoslavia from 1918-92 lived together as countrymen and women.

I always believed that if Tito could have lived another 100 years — or maybe if he had a child he could have passed the country to — the divisions might have been “permanently” eliminated because then everyone would be intermarried. He is an example of a leader who believed in his nation but unfortunately after his reign, the nation passed on to evil petty tyrants who cared only about preserving their power. Like we are facing now

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wheat-dogg  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:55:06am

re: #220 plansbandc

Bevin should be impeached. It won’t happen, but it should. He’s trying to run Kentucky like his own personal fiefdom.

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jaunte  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:55:08am

Wait ‘til Trump gets a taste of abusing eminent domain.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:55:38am

re: #221 Hecuba’s daughter

I always believed that if Tito could have lived another 100 years — or maybe if he had a child he could have passed the country to — the divisions might have been “permanently” eliminated because then everyone would be intermarried. He is an example of a leader who believed in his nation but unfortunately after his reign, the nation passed on to evil petty tyrants who cared only about preserving their power. Like we are facing now

Yes, after Tito, the different nationalities were supposed to rotate the Presidency, and when it was Croatia’s turn, the Serbs refused to recognize it…that was the beginning of the end.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:59:14am

re: #222 wheat-dogg

Bevin should be impeached. It won’t happen, but it should. He’s trying to run Kentucky like his own personal fiefdom.

Bevin’s not taking into account one thing: My son is there to vote against him this fall.

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danarchy  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:59:45am

So all of those kids and their coaches who were lost in a cave were just all found alive after 9 days.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 8:59:51am

re: #220 plansbandc

That ought to be a pretty quick lawsuit.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:03:05am

re: #141 Patricia Kayden

What nonsense and hogwash. Civility isn’t a one-way street. We do not owe civility to intolerant, dangerous bigots. The MSM needs to stop threatening Democrats that we have to be civil to Republicans or else.

I don’t see them demanding that Trump and his racist supporters be civil to their political opponents.

I attended a fundraiser for my Congressman Brad Schneider last Thursday. He was all about civility and working with a bipartisan group to get legislation — which he admitted was ignored by the majority. Of course, he is in a purple district that could very easily switch to R (based solely on the issue of Israel — not on the culture issues) though probably not this cycle, where the GOP primary voters selected a right-wing extremist instead of the Mark Kirkish Republican.

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BeachDem  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:03:32am

re: #205 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:03:38am

re: #208 HappyWarrior

Pretty lame. A one time resentment.

That’s how you know a person doesn’t have a lot of baggage.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:04:19am

Yay, Brexit!

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wheat-dogg  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:05:37am

re: #226 danarchy

So all of those kids and their coaches who were lost in a cave were just all found alive after 9 days.

I’m very relieved. Though I don’t live in Thailand, I spent two weeks there, and I have friends there. I can imagine everyone is now very happy.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:06:47am

re: #230 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s how you know a person doesn’t have a lot of baggage.

She’s not old enough, unless you want to dig deep into her middle school career.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:07:44am

re: #233 wheat-dogg

She’s not old enough, unless you want to dig deep into her middle school career.

I know people who have been involved with plenty of shit by the time they were 28.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:08:16am

Off-topic: I wish the state government didn’t have my telephone number. You’d think from the number of telephone calls from the state (I just dealt with one a few minutes ago) I was important or something. /s

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Dr. Matt  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:10:48am

re: #220 plansbandc

Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin cancels Medicaid dental, vision benefits for close to 500,000 after losing work requirement ruling.

I have zero empathy for them. They deserve this shit. They voted for Bevin. They vote for the GOP. The Left warned them over and over and over.

But, hey, their side “won” and now they can “own the libz” while they wait in the ER for their healthcare.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:11:41am

re: #234 Eclectic Cyborg

I know people who have been involved with plenty of shit by the time they were 28.

LOL. Me too. She seems more like an Obama type than a Donnie Smallhands type, though.

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danarchy  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:13:26am

re: #236 Dr. Matt

I have zero empathy for them. They deserve this shit. They voted for Bevin. They vote for the GOP. The Left warned them over and over and over.

But, hey, their side “won” and now they can “own the libz” while they wait in the ER for their healthcare.

44% of them did not…but fuck them too I guess.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:13:38am

re: #236 Dr. Matt

I have zero empathy for them. They deserve this shit. They voted for Bevin. They vote for the GOP. The Left warned them over and over and over.

But, hey, their side “won” and now they can “own the libz” while they wait in the ER for their healthcare.

If I didn’t have relatives in KY I’d be willing to agree with you. As it is, some of them will be affected badly if Bevin gets his way. Not sure if they voted for him or not, but his policies are going to hurt everyone regardless.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:14:28am
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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:15:21am

re: #236 Dr. Matt

I have zero empathy for them. They deserve this shit. They voted for Bevin. They vote for the GOP. The Left warned them over and over and over.

But, hey, their side “won” and now they can “own the libz” while they wait in the ER for their healthcare.

This is an emotion I don’t have the time nor the energy to waste on.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:17:17am

re: #238 danarchy

44% of them did not…but fuck them too I guess.

The entire state deserves this shit as well the entire country. I don’t feel sorry for anyone at this point. Until people suffer for their consequences, the GOP will continue to win elections and they will continue enact their barbaric policies on Americans.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:17:59am

re: #236 Dr. Matt

I have zero empathy for them. They deserve this shit. They voted for Bevin. They vote for the GOP. The Left warned them over and over and over.

But, hey, their side “won” and now they can “own the libz” while they wait in the ER for their healthcare.

“They” didn’t vote for Bevin, more conservatives did than liberals voting against him.

This is the same “punish everyone” attitude I despise, including liberals who are in the minority.

I see lots of support for “rock stars” like Beto O’Rourke and such, and no support for those trying to fight against the grind such as liberals in Kentucky (or my own state).

When the conversation gets to “punish that whole state because they deserve it,” it’s time for me to bail out of the conversation. Catch y’all later… .

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Dr. Matt  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:20:01am

re: #241 Belafon

This is an emotion I don’t have the time nor the energy to waste on.

I have plenty of energy for this. I’m glad thrilled Bevin and the GOP are doing this. I’ll take my privileged status in society and laugh at the assholes who vote for the GOP and suffer from their consequences.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:20:38am

This saddens me.

I am part of a few Canadian groups on FB. On each one right now is an active thread advising what Canadian products to purchase in lieu of American ones because of Trumps tariffs.

I never in my life though I’d see something like this. As a Canadian living in the United States the growing division between the nations is very troubling.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:20:57am

re: #243 Anymouse 🌹

This is the same “punish everyone” attitude I despise.

I support this 100%. This country deserves this shit.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:21:06am

re: #231 wheat-dogg

And the Tories/Brexiteers are either saying, “Pish, it’s nothing” or looking forward to the UK’s economy going straight down the toilet because they’re nothing more than disaster capitalists and speculators seeking to cash in on the nation’s ruin.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:21:33am

Genius. Long exposures for street photography. Just when you think too many photographers are doing too much the same… Not gonna thumbnail ‘cause I don’t have permission.
https://www.eduardoasenjomatus.com/

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:23:50am

re: #243 Anymouse 🌹

“They” didn’t vote for Bevin, more conservatives did than liberals voting against him.

This is the same “punish everyone” attitude I despise, including liberals who are in the minority.

I see lots of support for “rock stars” like Beto O’Rourke and such, and no support for those trying to fight against the grind such as liberals in Kentucky (or my own state).

When the conversation gets to “punish that whole state because they deserve it,” it’s time for me to bail out of the conversation. Catch y’all later… .

I agree except Beto fits exactly the rest of your description, since he’s a House Rep. We’re just a bigger state, and Cruz is a big asshole.

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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:24:24am

re: #207 Belafon

If she’d only thought to have multiple affairs, then there’d be nothing to talk about.

Silly rabbit, affairs are for men and men only.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:25:00am

re: #250 MsJ

Silly rabbit, affairs are for men and men only.

Happy had the better comment anyway. I wish I had thought of it.

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Teukka  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:25:55am
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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:28:53am

re: #214 Dr Lizardo

This is some good news:

bbc.com

I did not think for a minute this would resolve positively. I am honestly shocked and really happy that they have been rescued.

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lawhawk  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:31:05am

The anti-Semitic right wing Nazis are coming out of the woodwork.

I know I repeat myself, but the GOP is rife with these fuckers.

Wait, you say that’s Ron Paul affirmatively retweeting that Ben Garrision Der Sturmer crap.

The white supremacist/nationalist GOP is reveling in this bigotry and hate, and Trump’s helped normalize it while the media continues to try and make him appear presidential.

FYI - we’ve got a delete and retweet without the image (someone must have noticed at the Paul place).

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retired cynic  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:31:36am

I just read (Nonprofit Quarterly daily email) that RAICES has earned $17 million and still counting. There is sure an immediate need for that money to provide legal services to the separated families. I hope they can help families with airfare to reunite with their children. Proud to have contributed a small bit.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:32:12am

re: #214 Dr Lizardo

Well, it took six months, but there’s finally some good news in 2018.

Seriously, that’s amazing.

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lawhawk  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:33:18am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:33:21am
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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:36:01am

re: #243 Anymouse 🌹

“They” didn’t vote for Bevin, more conservatives did than liberals voting against him.

This is the same “punish everyone” attitude I despise, including liberals who are in the minority.

I see lots of support for “rock stars” like Beto O’Rourke and such, and no support for those trying to fight against the grind such as liberals in Kentucky (or my own state).

When the conversation gets to “punish that whole state because they deserve it,” it’s time for me to bail out of the conversation. Catch y’all later… .

As much as I am loathe to say this, and believe me, I am…it is apparent that unless people really hurt from GOP policies - and yes, that means everyone affected, there will be no changes made, because they are going to have to live it to believe it. And even then, many will not.

We, all of us, do not want ANYONE hurting, but they are. And until everyone actually feels what Republicans are doing to them, there can be no changes.

And many people will be hurt from this and likely many will die.

Alas, we are at the point where nothing else will work. And, for me personally, I hope democracy holds up through this. Because right now, I think democracy is on life support.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:37:16am

LOL…moron thinks he can work with the new guy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:37:58am
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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:38:51am

re: #245 Eclectic Cyborg

This saddens me.

I am part of a few Canadian groups on FB. On each one right now is an active thread advising what Canadian products to purchase in lieu of American ones, because of Trumps tariffs.

I never in my life though I’d see something like this. As a Canadian living in the United States the growing division between the nations is very troubling.

It’s not just the tariffs. What Trump has managed to do is get Canadian conservatives from the most conservative parts of Canada to support Trudeau, because no matter how much they dislike liberal politics, Trudeau is the Canadian PM and trump taking a shit on him on Twitter did not go over well. At all. With almost every Canadian citizen.

That was when Buy Canadian started. It wasn’t the tariffs. The tariffs just exasperated it.

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gwangung  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:40:36am

re: #262 MsJ

It’s not just the tariffs. What Trump has managed to do is get Canadian conservatives from the most conservative parts of Canada to support Trudeau, because no matter how much they dislike liberal politics, Trudeau is the Canadian PM and trump taking a shit on him on Twitter did not go over well. At all. With almost every Canadian citizen.

That was when Buy Canadian started. It wasn’t the tariffs. The tariffs just exasperated it.

Isolating the US economically. Stabbing our allies in the back. What they accused Democratic presidents of doing, Trump is doing for real, and on a much more serious and larger scale.

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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:40:57am

re: #251 Belafon

Happy had the better comment anyway. I wish I had thought of it.

Still only applies to men. Men can grab pussy and would lose modest support for grabbing cock.

Women can do neither. Ever.

(Note that “can” does not mean I support it or anything like it. Just making that crystal clear. The point remains that men can do almost anything where women cannot. And that is a statement of fact.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:41:35am

the moron will be in West Virginia tomorrow.

blech

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:42:23am

re: #256 Sufficient unto the day…

Well, it took six months, but there’s finally some good news in 2018.

Seriously, that’s amazing.

It was amazing, and good to see.

What had me laughing earlier today was that Trump’s proposal to basically rip up the WTO is called “The Fair And Reciprocal Trade Act”.

Yep……The US FART Act.

That’s either the most unfortunate acronym ever chosen or someone, somewhere, is doing some truly epic trolling. I was on the tram this morning when I read about it, and I was doing my best not to explode in laughter; I must’ve looked like one of those hapless Roman centurions in the Biggus Dickus scene in Life of Brian.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:45:49am
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wrenchwench  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:47:47am

re: #263 gwangung

Isolating the US economically. Stabbing our allies in the back. What they accused Democratic presidents of doing, Trump is doing for real, and on a much more serious and larger scale.

On purpose. For profit (for somebody).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:49:37am
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Mike Lamb  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:49:57am

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dude has helped fuck us for a generation and he thinks we should be working on bringing him back into the fold? He can fuck right the fuck off.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:50:48am
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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:51:20am

re: #270 Mike Lamb

Dude has helped fuck us for a generation and he thinks we should be working on bringing him back into the fold? He can fuck right the fuck off.

Dude is lying his ass off. If he thinks we’re “butthurt” over trump winning, he’s a moron and/or a liar.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:52:46am

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

These evil assholes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:53:13am
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:54:08am

re: #266 Dr Lizardo Curious what my FB people will say…

Facebook Post

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danarchy  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:54:15am

re: #244 Dr. Matt

I have plenty of energy for this. I’m glad thrilled Bevin and the GOP are doing this. I’ll take my privileged status in society and laugh at the assholes who vote for the GOP and suffer from their consequences.

Apparently assholes aren’t limited to voting for the GOP.

A lot of the people being hurt by this will be children who have no fucking say in the matter, but screw them. I guess that means you were cool with separating kids at the border because their parents chose to enter the country illegally too.

Collective punishment was outlawed in the Geneva convention, you must think that was a mistake too huh?

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:54:20am

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh yeah, a GooberGoater. Yeah, I want him back on our side…

…about as much as I want genital warts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:55:21am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:57:25am

re: #247 Dr Lizardo

And the Tories/Brexiteers are either saying, “Pish, it’s nothing” or looking forward to the UK’s economy going straight down the toilet because they’re nothing more than disaster capitalists and speculators seeking to cash in on the nation’s ruin.

Best possible case is that they de facto stay in the EU by observing EU trade treaties but lose the ability to help shape policy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2018 • 9:59:52am

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I thought the dog days did not start until later with the rising of Canis Major

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Jay C  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:03:02am

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yeah, well….. even leaving aside the irony/chutzpah of using the term “butthurt” in post just reeking of it, and the low credibility of the “vote … like I used to” comment; when is it likely that this clown has been “punched, fired or thrown out of restaurants” for being a Trump voter? I’m guessing that this guy’s main “sufferings” - unless “Mark Kern” is a pseud for Scott Pruitt or somebody - have been limited to online mockery: which sounds like it’s quite enough to chap his snowflake ass.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:07:12am

these people…

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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:09:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:10:47am
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wrenchwench  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:12:23am

re: #283 MsJ

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ICE breaks up families———> Families break up ICE

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:12:54am

re: #283 MsJ

This is when the internet is useful. Sometimes, the best idea comes from someone not in the room.

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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:15:20am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:18:14am

re: #287 MsJ

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Remember a couple weeks back when leading Republicans were saying that Mueller needs to wrap this up pronto?

There you go.

They’re getting nervous. Real nervous.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:18:18am

re: #220 plansbandc

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Doesn’t matter because they will reelect him in a landslide for kicking down lazy people.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:19:00am

re: #266 Dr Lizardo

What had me laughing earlier today was that Trump’s proposal to basically rip up the WTO is called “The Fair And Reciprocal Trade Act”.

Yep……The US FART Act.

That’s either the most unfortunate acronym ever chosen or someone, somewhere, is doing some truly epic trolling. I was on the tram this morning when I read about it, and I was doing my best not to explode in laughter; I must’ve looked like one of those hapless Roman centurions in the Biggus Dickus scene in Life of Brian.

There is ZERO chance that a government employee created anything that could be turned into an acronym without knowing what that acronym would be.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:19:16am

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mark Kern

@Grummz
* 1 Jul
Okay let’s talk about how to beat Trump. Specifically, how you can get me, and millions of others back to voting for Democrats like I used to.

Mark Kern

@Grummz
First, you have to want me back. Stop being butthurt that I voted for Trump and stop trying to get me punched, fired or thrown out of restaurants. You need us back if you want to beat Trump. Stop pushing us into ditches. You’ll lose again.
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You voted for Trump and you use the phrase, “butthurt.” Don’t even remotely want you back.


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I know some people who actually are very nice but who supported Trump. One of them (close to 90 in age) said to us that what she learned as a child and always believed is that one should never talk politics or religion. There are many such people who might be reachable — at least more reachable than Bernie Bros who don’t admit their culpability for the current mess — but we probably would do better in getting people registered or restoring registration in states like Ohio and Wisconsin — and publicizing an agenda that demonizes every Republican out there. Nationalize the election the way Gingrich nationalized 1994.

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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:20:38am

re: #290 Colère Tueur de Lapin

There is ZERO chance that a government employee created anything that could be turned into an acronym without knowing what that acronym would be.

Then again…trump. Not one of them has any kind of knowing stuff.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:20:54am

re: #289 Joe Bacon 🌹

Doesn’t matter because they will reelect him in a landslide for kicking down lazy people.

From what I’m hearing from my son in KY, the Republicans aren’t feeling as good. Not having that black man show up on TV every night with the word “President” put in front of his name gives them less to run against.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:24:17am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:25:31am

re: #292 MsJ

Then again…trump. Not one of them has any kind of knowing stuff.

While this is a true statement. The folx who write titles for bills and departments are normally not the ones at the top. I think this was some epic trolling. As a government employee, I’ve seen the hoops people go through to get a division named into an acronym that rolls off the tongue, but is kinda a mess when spoken in it’s totality. I don’t believe that FART was an accident.

And, to solidify what you said, they’re too stupid and inbred to see that they were trolled.

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gwangung  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:25:35am

re: #294 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Those brave agents taking down 65 year old grandfathers and mothers of five with speeding tickets.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:25:51am

re: #293 Belafon

From what I’m hearing from my son in KY, the Republicans aren’t feeling as good. Not having that black man show up on TV every night with the word “President” put in front of his name gives them less to run against.

McConnell is racist to his core — and so, it appears, are most of those who adhere to the modern Republican brand. Their racism is directed to the traditional targets of African Americans and Latinos; not to those of Asian ancestry (well, at least McConnell’s isn’t and neither is Trump’s).

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:26:03am

re: #291 Hecuba’s daughter

He wants us to invite him back on his terms. That’s why we don’t need him.

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gwangung  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:27:28am

re: #297 Hecuba’s daughter

McConnell is racist to his core — and so, it appears, are most of those who adhere to the modern Republican brand. Their racism is directed to the traditional targets of African Americans and Latinos; not to those of Asian ancestry (well, at least McConnell’s isn’t and neither is Trump’s).

Yeah, well, a lot of us aren’t counting on that, since ICE and CFB have targetted Asian immigrants.

And we know we get side-eye from a lot of right wingers……

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:28:22am

re: #285 wrenchwench

ICE breaks up families———> Families break up ICE

What cant ICE withstand? The heat of angry citizens.

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BeachDem  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:28:57am

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

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these people…

In 2017, Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter and wife of senior adviser Jared Kushner, said she would give most of the advance and any future royalties from her book “Women Who Work” to charity.

Yeah, I’m sure that happened.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:29:31am

the soap opera in Bowling Green continues…

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:29:57am

re: #286 Belafon

This is when the internet is useful. Sometimes, the best idea comes from someone not in the room.

Funny you should say that. I was just chatting online with the photorapher whose work I linked above. He just agreed to collaboarate with me on something. How cool is that?

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:30:04am

re: #299 gwangung

Yeah, well, a lot of us aren’t counting on that, since ICE and CFB have targetted Asian immigrants.

And we know we get side-eye from a lot of right wingers……

There a naturalized citizen where I work who’s from Vietnam, and voted for Trump. I wonder at times what she’s thinking about all of this, but at times I’m pretty sure she doesn’t think it will affect her.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:33:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:34:34am

more

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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:34:50am

re: #302 Backwoods_Sleuth

the soap opera in Bowling Green continues…

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And justice for all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:35:41am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:37:33am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:39:38am

oh…he’s lost the Chamber of Commerce

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:42:39am

re: #291 Hecuba’s daughter

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:43:25am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:48:10am
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MsJ  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:49:25am

re: #310 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh…he’s lost the Chamber of Commerce

[Embedded content]

Organization lies down with dogs for years and is amazed when it winds up with Lyme disease.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:52:21am

re: #314 MsJ

Organization lies down with dogs for years and is amazed when it winds up with Lyme disease.

“We’ll harness their bigotry for our own ends. That’s never gone bad before.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:52:34am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:53:00am

re: #305 Backwoods_Sleuth

Friend in Glasgow sent me this link about the Pink Floyd concert.Trump is A Bawbag

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 2, 2018 • 10:58:47am

re: #314 MsJ

Organization lies down with dogs for years and is amazed when it winds up with Lyme disease.

We’re upping the ante to disease, now…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2018 • 11:02:07am
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wrenchwench  Jul 2, 2018 • 11:03:44am

re: #316 Backwoods_Sleuth

[A moment 2 months in the making: mother & daughter reunited after the little girl was separated in Arizona and sent to Michigan.

Don’t be fooled by the warm moment. Look at the child’s face. That trauma is on the Trump Administration

This needs to happen 2,000 to 10,000 more times, this week.

Retweeted.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2018 • 11:06:29am
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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 11:08:42am

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

What’s the gist (I can’t see the picture at work)?

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freetoken  Jul 2, 2018 • 11:11:27am

re: #321 Backwoods_Sleuth

The California outdoor equipment manufacturer explaining that the trade war will hurt their Canadian business.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 2, 2018 • 11:13:12am

62 million voted for DT, that’s about 23% of Americans old enough to vote. We don’t need to woo them, we need to motivate nonvoters. (That 62 million is likely a very large percentage of DT supporters, since they’re the “crawl over ground glass” types.)

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 2, 2018 • 11:15:13am

On another subject entirely, at the gym today one of the people there was griping about our cool, foggy weather. I told her to be careful what she asks for.

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Jay C  Jul 2, 2018 • 11:28:48am

re: #325 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

On another subject entirely, at the gym today one of the people there was griping about our cool, foggy weather. I told her to be careful what she asks for.

Where’s “your” weather? I’m in NYC, and I’d be happy to trade some of that “cool & foggy” for the “Heat Advisory” (96°) and “Air Quality Alert” we’re having today….

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 2, 2018 • 11:32:50am

I’m wondering if I should put out the Russian flag on Wednesday like I did on Inauguration Day

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2018 • 11:34:26am

re: #327 The Vicious Babushka

I’m wondering if I should put out the Russian flag on Wednesday like I did on Inauguration Day

[Embedded content]

Naah. It’s still our America, not Putin’s.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2018 • 11:38:29am
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Single-handed sailor  Jul 2, 2018 • 11:42:36am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 2, 2018 • 11:45:13am

re: #330 Single-handed sailor

[Embedded content]

His trade policy is not about trade, or policy, or anything rational. He sees trade deficits as being cheated by other countries, and because he’s stupid, he cannot be convinced otherwise. It’s entirely about dominance for him.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 2, 2018 • 11:46:28am

re: #330 Single-handed sailor

Wilbur Ross: There’s no downside level in the stock market that would change Trump trade policy cnb.cx

What????? Please someone, explain this in English. I can understand an old fashioned Communist or maybe even a Socialist making this assertion. But a capitalist?

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gwangung  Jul 2, 2018 • 11:47:27am

re: #332 Hecuba’s daughter

What????? Please someone, explain this in English. I can understand an old fashioned Communist or maybe even a Socialist making this assertion. But a capitalist?

Trump is the leader. His will shall be done, even if it hurts the entire country.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 2, 2018 • 11:47:59am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 2, 2018 • 11:49:25am

re: #333 gwangung

Trump is the leader. His will shall be done, even if it hurts the entire country.

Doesn’t seem like something that would please the Koch Bros.

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Jay C  Jul 2, 2018 • 11:49:48am

re: #332 Hecuba’s daughter

What????? Please someone, explain this in English. I can understand an old fashioned Communist or maybe even a Socialist making this assertion. But a capitalist?

I read this as Ross saying (in effect) that Trump doesn’t give a shit about the stock market, that he is going to implement whatever-the-hell trade policy he feels like because he’s The Fucking President!! and no one is going to stop him.

(I may be paraphrasing a bit)

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Hecuba's daughter  Jul 2, 2018 • 11:53:33am

re: #336 Jay C

I read this as Ross saying (in effect) that Trump doesn’t give a shit about the stock market, that he is going to implement whatever-the-hell trade policy he feels like because he’s The Fucking President!! and no one is going to stop him.

(I may be paraphrasing a bit)

Wasn’t he using the stock market as a barometer of his success as President? Oh, wait, he is willing to contradict himself in the same sentence. He has no economic beliefs except following a policy that enriches him even if it beggars the nation. Or maybe, that’s what his master Putin has told him

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 2, 2018 • 12:10:35pm

re: #326 Jay C

Where’s “your” weather? I’m in NYC, and I’d be happy to trade some of that “cool & foggy” for the “Heat Advisory” (96°) and “Air Quality Alert” we’re having today….

San Francisco bay area. Seems to be about the only place that’s not too hot.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jul 2, 2018 • 12:35:41pm

re: #338 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

San Francisco bay area. Seems to be about the only place that’s not too hot.

What? It was 99 degrees Saturday

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 2, 2018 • 1:00:44pm

re: #339 Deep State SuperElite Satinist

What? It was 99 degrees Saturday

Inland….

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Done Ben Wrote  Jul 2, 2018 • 2:59:35pm

re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth

We aren’t butthurt that he voted for The Orange Menace, we just note that vote increases the probability that he is racist, sexist, fascist or Nazi to vanishingly close to one. If he is butthurt because people are calling him racist, sexist, fascist, or Nazi, or treating him as if he is a racist, sexist, fascist, or Nazi, then he should stop acting like a racist, sexist, fascist, Nazi.

And the first step to that is to stop supporting The Orange Menace.


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