Trump Is Planning to Meet Putin Alone, With No Aides and No Official Record

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It’s unbelievable how blatant Donald Trump is being with this; he’s planning to meet in private with Vladimir Putin in Helsinki this month, with no aides, no witnesses, and no official record.

It’s like he’s daring America to stop him.

President Donald Trump clearly doesn’t care what anyone thinks about his baffling, opaque and deferential relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

In a demonstration of his growing willingness to flout diplomatic convention and the concerns of US allies, Trump apparently plans to meet with the Russian leader alone, likely with only translators in the room, at the start of their summit in Helsinki, Finland, on July 16.

The CNN article I quoted from goes on to say “it’s not particularly unusual.”

But it is. This is absolutely not normal.

UPDATE at 7/3/18 1:00:04 pm by Charles Johnson

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452 comments

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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2018 • 12:27:42pm

The Smiths - Heaven Knows I’m Miserable Now (Official Music Video)

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Kragar  Jul 3, 2018 • 12:27:44pm

What notes would be taken?

Putin unzips pants, sits.

Trump kneels.

Transcript: 5 minutes of sustained slurping

Putin pats Trump on the head.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 12:28:04pm

Fuck he’s guilty. Anyone who can’t see that by now is as stupid as he is.

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Kragar  Jul 3, 2018 • 12:29:04pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 3, 2018 • 12:31:20pm

re: #3 HappyWarrior

Fuck he’s guilty. Anyone who can’t see that by now is as stupid as he is.

All five living ex-Presidents need to issue a joint statement that this is absolutely unprecedented and unacceptable.

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makeitstop  Jul 3, 2018 • 12:32:15pm

re: #1 gocart mozart

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Works great with the melody from ‘There is a light that never goes out.’ :)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 12:34:07pm

re: #4 Kragar

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And yet every last Republican on that committee will object to any criticism of his SCOTUS pick.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2018 • 12:35:24pm

Putin is KGB. He’ll have a wire and a video camera inside his Russian flag lapel pin. And it will be glorious.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 12:36:16pm

re: #8 Ace Rothstein

Putin is KGB. He’ll have a wire and a video camera inside his Russian flag lapel pin. And it will be glorious.

And he’ll leak every dumb thing Trump utters to RT.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2018 • 12:36:42pm

re: #6 makeitstop

So when Trump meets with Putin, and everything gets fucked up, is the applicable Smiths song “Bigmouth Strikes Again”?

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MsJ  Jul 3, 2018 • 12:36:55pm

From earlier.

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William Lewis  Jul 3, 2018 • 12:36:58pm

Of course he is. Don’t you always meet alone with your boss for your annual performance review?

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Teukka  Jul 3, 2018 • 12:37:36pm

re: #8 Ace Rothstein

Putin is KGB. He’ll have a wire and a video camera inside his Russian flag lapel pin. And it will be glorious.

re: #9 HappyWarrior

And he’ll leak every dumb thing Trump utters to RT.

What is it that they say? “Когда-то КГБ, всегда КГБ.”?

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2018 • 12:40:00pm

re: #13 Teukka

What is it that they say? “Когда-то КГБ, всегда КГБ.”?

да

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 12:43:59pm

good fucking grief…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2018 • 12:44:07pm

The PG rated version of my take on Trump wanting to meet alone with Putin is that performance reviews are generally given in private.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2018 • 12:46:58pm

Our Idiot President, Part N.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 12:53:51pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 12:55:05pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 12:58:55pm

this is not good

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 3, 2018 • 12:59:05pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2018 • 12:59:24pm

re: #1 gocart mozart

That works too

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can't think of a decent username  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:01:28pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

this is not good

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“Police are on the lookout for a giant Pikachu…”

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:02:35pm

re: #8 Ace Rothstein

Putin is KGB. He’ll have a wire and a video camera inside his Russian flag lapel pin. And it will be glorious.

He won’t have to. He can just make up anything he wants. Without staff present, notes taken, Trump can’t possibly refute anything he says.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:03:28pm

really Gov. Bevin…just fuck off

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:04:00pm

This angers me so much but I definitely also see it as a signal to the alt-right that we support the common cause of white nationalism.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:05:53pm

re: #26 JordanRules

Russian lawmakers and Republican lawmakers - how do you tell them apart?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:06:20pm

re: #27 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

Russian lawmakers and Republican lawmakers - how do you tell them apart?

Their first language and choice of liquor.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:06:59pm

Wrenchwench, you asked about dangerman downstairs. He said he’d be gone for a few days this week. I’m sure he’ll be thrilled to know we missed him. 🤓

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:09:09pm

re: #27 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

Russian lawmakers and Republican lawmakers - how do you tell them apart?

The Repugs swore an oath to support, defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States. The Russians didn’t.

(Yes, I’m furious too.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:10:35pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:11:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:13:28pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:26:26pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The donkey snort was my favorite.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:26:56pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that this was yet another Roger Stone rodent coupling.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:28:55pm

re: #35 Joe Bacon 🌹

I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that this was yet another Roger Stone rodent coupling.

I’d love to see him behind bars.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:30:48pm

I don’t think the Republicans are actively selling out to Russia, but they are so busy in their zeal to create a government of the black people by the white people for the rich people that they’ll go along with anything, and then undo things after Trump’s presidency is over.

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:32:18pm

Nope. The only binary choice is between Republicans and Democrats. The opposite of closed borders is a myriad of choices, including those that have been going on for decades.

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:32:32pm

re: #35 Joe Bacon 🌹

I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that this was yet another Roger Stone rodent coupling.

There are other bad actors on their side. All roads don’t always lead back to Stone.
I don’t think he GAF about a Nebraska GOP office. He usually reserves his dark powers for manipulations that can get him the best ROI.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:33:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:34:35pm
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Interesting Times  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:35:42pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

this is not good

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Given the character (or lack thereof) of the modern GOP, I’m going to assume false flag until proven otherwise (I mean…we know the IMAX-level degree of projection they always use, and since they constantly accuse “the left” of false flags…plus, what Nebraska progressive would even think of something like this? If it were a genuine attack, I’d expect it would be far more likely in an urban area where “black bloc” types are known to gather).

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:41:31pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

this is not good

Already news here …

Vandals’ bricks, anti-ICE graffiti cause $1,200 damage to Nebraska GOP office (goes to the Omaha World-Herald, more at the link, with pictures):

Vandals in Lincoln shattered one front window panel of the state headquarters of the Nebraska Republican Party overnight and damaged a second, doing at least $1,200 in damage with bricks.

Someone also spray-painted graffiti on the sidewalk in front of the GOP offices that said, “ABOLISH ICE.”

That slogan is a rallying cry for some immigration activists on the left who are pushing back against the Trump administration’s more aggressive approach to arresting, jailing and deporting people trying to cross the U.S. border.

GOP officials said Tuesday that they would board up the windows so volunteers could continue making calls on behalf of Republican candidates from the office at 1610 N St. in Lincoln. They also plan to install security cameras.

Lincoln police say they are in the process of collecting video surveillance from nearby businesses. At least one has cameras pointing the direction of the GOP office’s front windows, said Kenny Zoeller, executive director of the state GOP.

Investigators were still trying to determine what time the incident took place, sometime between midnight and a little after 3 a.m. A newspaper carrier notified police.

The state GOP, like the state Democratic Party, has had its run-ins with the fringes of opposing parties and others. But Zoeller said the recent rhetoric of “the resistance” on the left has emboldened people to act out.

He said he hoped no party would condone such activity.

Jane Kleeb, chairwoman of the Nebraska Democratic Party, condemned the vandalism as a sad and dangerous attack on people’s workplace and beliefs.

“I think it’s a terrifying place that our country is in right now, where people are resorting to violence, vandalism and death threats to political leaders, staff members and candidates,” she said. “And it’s happening to all of us.”

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:43:00pm

They only know how to break down and cause chaos. No building. No governing.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:44:58pm
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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:46:10pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:47:23pm

re: #44 JordanRules

They only know how to break down and cause chaos. No building. No governing.

Conservatives on that thread calling it “restoring the rule of law.”

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:47:58pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:49:07pm

electrotek got suspended from Twitter. 😞

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:49:31pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:52:01pm

Folly, Vice, and Madness (goes to Stonekettle Station, Jim Wright’s latest essay on Trump)

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:52:29pm

re: #49 teleskiguy

electrotek got suspended from Twitter. 😞

He told us about it. He said he’d be more pressed if it was FB which he uses a lot more.

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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:54:15pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:54:27pm

re: #46 JordanRules

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SRSLY?

That’s the damn dumbest thing I’ve heard since….well, since the last Trump tweet I read, really.

But still - if that were so, black Americans would all look just like the West African populations most of their African ancestors were stolen out of. Not a range of skin tones as described so poetically by Redd Foxx (“…light, bright, and damn near white!”), for example.

It it were so, there’d be no worries about ‘miscegenation’ or ‘white genocide’, because the races would “breed true”.

If it were so, Barack Obama would not exist. Certainly he could not have been born of a white mother.

Holy Hannah, but there are some really fucking stupid people out there!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:55:37pm

Alabama
And of course, the ex-wife and her current husband were two of the people killed

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:56:08pm

re: #50 JordanRules

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Noticed this bot in the comments. Looks like it needs some updated programming. The tweet history is so strange.

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 1:59:56pm

re: #54 Blind Frog Belly White

Yeah, its pretty nuts! I’ve been called a mulatto or mixed breed many times over the course of my life and I learned to read the context clues about who was using it in certain ways but I’d never known that little bit of history about the infertile mule. Wow.

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Danack  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:00:03pm

England won on penalties.

We truly are in the mirror universe.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:04:31pm

I’m posting the Natasha Bertrand tweet here, but if you really want a look into the depths of the crazy, you can click on the Laura Loomer tweet she’s replying to. My favorite one - 40,000 sealed indictments!

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:05:42pm

re: #48 JordanRules

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:07:42pm

So Trump can come out of this meeting, claim whatever he wants to claim about it without any means of verifying it and it will be reported as if it had any substance…

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MsJ  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:12:24pm

re: #38 Belafon

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:12:57pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:13:36pm

re: #59 Blind Frog Belly White

Laura Loomer is the Louise Mensch of Tomi Lahrens.

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ipsos  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:17:59pm

re: #64 Blind Frog Belly White

Laura Loomer is the Louse Mensch of Tomi Lahrens.

I have a good friend who went hard for Bernie and still has stars in his eyes. He’s been big on Mensch, reposting all her anti-Hillary and anti-Trump stuff whether or not it makes any sense at all.

But he’s also a big AOC fan - so I’m waiting to see where he comes down on Mensch’s latest anti-AOC clickbait nonsense.

We may need a brain-explosion cleanup in the 718 soon…

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:19:51pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:20:16pm

My interest in watches caused the Facebook Self-radicalizing Algorithm to send me an add from Swatch, which was either written by someone with a good sense of humor, or someone with absolutely no sense of humor…

Timelessness - not a quality one usually seeks in a watch.

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danarchy  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:20:17pm

re: #57 JordanRules

Yeah, its pretty nuts! I’ve been called a mulatto or mixed breed many times over the course of my life and I learned to read the context clues about who was using it in certain ways but I’d never known that little bit of history about the infertile mule. Wow.

For what it is worth, when I google mulatto etymology it tells me this:

mu*lat*to
Origin

late 16th century: from Spanish mulato, from Arabic muwallad ‘person of mixed race.’

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:21:52pm

re: #68 danarchy

For what it is worth, when I google mulatto etymology it tells me this:

mu*lat*to
Origin

late 16th century: from Spanish mulato, from Arabic muwallad ‘person of mixed race.’

Wiki has what both you are saying.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:22:23pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:22:26pm
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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:23:34pm
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MsJ  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:25:07pm

re: #50 JordanRules

😫😢😭

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:26:33pm

I’m off to town. Need to get Canadian money for our trip. My wife successfully reserved us a room in Juneau for our stay there. Cheechako has been warned we’re coming to town.

Doom Man from My Wife’s Website
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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:27:22pm

re: #72 JordanRules

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:27:53pm
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MsJ  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:28:12pm

re: #56 JordanRules

Noticed this bot in the comments. Looks like it needs some updated programming. The tweet history is so strange.

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That’s hysterical!

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SteelPH  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:28:40pm

re: #74 Anymouse 🌹

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:30:01pm

re: #72 JordanRules

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Wha…?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:30:16pm

re: #76 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Do you intentionally sound like an idiot yelling at his toilet too when the KFC won’t come out fast enough?

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ipsos  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:30:36pm

re: #76 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’d like to pour something over its tweets, that’s for sure.

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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:30:41pm
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Greup  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:31:10pm

nytimes.com
Thing is, he already had a one-on-one meeting with Putin last year at G20 with only a russian interpreter present.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:31:14pm

re: #76 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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he not only didn’t write any of those books, he hasn’t read any of them either.

BTW, he’s on AF1 right now on the way to West Virginia.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:31:19pm

re: #76 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Pore/pour pitiful me!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:31:27pm

re: #82 gocart mozart

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I sang that in Bob Dylan’s voice.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:31:30pm

re: #72 JordanRules

If they had argued that literacy is a matter of national security I bet the judge would have agreed

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:32:14pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

he not only didn’t write any of those books, he hasn’t read any of them either.

BTW, he’s on AF1 right now on the way to West Virginia.

There’s no Pop-Up Books version of “The Art Of The Deal”?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:34:16pm

re: #88 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s no Pop-Up Books version of “The Art Of The Deal”?

A coloring book that’s actually a playboy.

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wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:36:21pm

re: #88 Blind Frog Belly White

There’s no Pop-Up Books version of “The Art Of The Deal”?

A pop-up, pop-out book: The FART of the Deal.

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steve_davis  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:37:47pm

re: #1 gocart mozart

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and if a two ton trump, shoots me in the rump….to die by his hands, oh, the pleasure, the privilege is mine…..

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:40:31pm

re: #89 HappyWarrior

A coloring book that’s actually a playboy.

Hey, Playboy can be a pop-up book, if you catch my meaning….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:41:46pm
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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:42:41pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:42:48pm

re: #92 Blind Frog Belly White

Hey, Playboy can be a pop-up book, if you catch my meaning….

Winner

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:43:39pm

re: #94 JordanRules

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Wish it were higher but better then nothing.

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:45:02pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

he not only didn’t write any of those books, he hasn’t read any of them either.

BTW, he’s on AF1 right now on the way to West Virginia.

I have a feeling he’s going to be extra, extra unhinged in WV.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:45:11pm

re: #93 Backwoods_Sleuth

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the moron deleted the tweet and replaced it with the correct spelling.
here’s the deleted tweet:

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Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:46:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:46:39pm
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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:46:47pm

He knows we all know he’s a moron.

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steve_davis  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:47:26pm

re: #50 JordanRules

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damn. i don’t know how they’re gonna find another dog with a voice like that. probably ruins any future commercials.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:51:29pm

re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth

the moron deleted the tweet and replaced it with the correct spelling.
here’s the deleted tweet:

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Okay, so the leakers are terrible and we’re gonna crack down on them, but nobody ever actually leaks.

O-o-okay….

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:52:36pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:54:30pm

Well I did it. I beat the rain home. But when I came home my so-called union wanted me to re-up because of the Janus win. I told the person I will wait for the higher ups to ask me to re-up with the union.

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MsJ  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:55:28pm

Good God, Pruitt asked trump to fire Sessions and appoint him, Pruitt, as AG.

FUCK. ME.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:56:18pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:56:21pm

re: #104 JordanRules

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Maybe there’s something to the Pikachu/GOP Headquarters connection….

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BeachDem  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:57:40pm

re: #59 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m posting the Natasha Bertrand tweet here, but if you really want a look into the depths of the crazy, you can click on the Laura Loomer tweet she’s replying to. My favorite one - 40,000 sealed indictments!

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The biggest stretch is Loomer referring to herself as an “investigative journalist.”

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 3, 2018 • 2:58:02pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:00:14pm

re: #110 goddamnedfrank

It’s still blue about it.

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calochortus  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:00:43pm

re: #54 Blind Frog Belly White

SRSLY?

That’s the damn dumbest thing I’ve heard since….well, since the last Trump tweet I read, really.

But still - if that were so, black Americans would all look just like the West African populations most of their African ancestors were stolen out of. Not a range of skin tones as described so poetically by Redd Foxx (“…light, bright, and damn near white!”), for example.

It it were so, there’d be no worries about ‘miscegenation’ or ‘white genocide’, because the races would “breed true”.

If it were so, Barack Obama would not exist. Certainly he could not have been born of a white mother.

Holy Hannah, but there are some really fucking stupid people out there!

And here I thought it explained why I don’t have grandchildren (since my son-in-law is Asian and my daughter is Caucasian.) I guess I’ll just have to blame it on their excellent understanding of contraception.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:00:51pm

re: #72 JordanRules

And the purpose of school is what? What in the actual fuck is WRONG with people? This should not even be in fucking question.

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:01:14pm

These people are all ludicrous.

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wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:01:39pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:03:31pm
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MsJ  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:06:10pm

re: #106 MsJ

Good God, Pruitt asked trump to fire Sessions and appoint him, Pruitt, as AG.

FUCK. ME.

Forgot the link.

apple.news

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:07:29pm

re: #117 MsJ

Forgot the link.

apple.news

I guess the grift is always greener on the other side of the fence.

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:10:17pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:12:29pm

Happy 3rd of July!

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:14:09pm
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Eventual Carrion  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:19:33pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

this is not good

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Was the “B” backwards?

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BeachDem  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:21:19pm

Dayum—and he didn’t even shoot anyone:

Ex-Richland Deputy Won’t Be Allowed to Be an Officer Anymore
Kaleb Broome was accused of stealing tape and turning a poster into a racial slur while out on a domestic violence call.

wltx.com

Pretty forceful for South Carolina. (Hey—there’s been a lot of dumping on this state during the past few threads, so…)

And another good bit of news about SC and the candidate I’m most fired up about:

National Democrats sent a Washington operative to South Carolina’s First Congressional District this week — a second visit in just three weeks since Republican incumbent Rep. Mark Sanford lost his primary election.

The return trip sends a strong signal Democrats see a big chance to retake control of a seat they haven’t held since 1981 — in a year when the party needs to win 23 races to win back control of the House.

mcclatchydc.com

GO JOE!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:24:58pm

Apropos yesterday’s discussion of the term “Cultural Marxism”

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:28:50pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:30:16pm

Trump, in ghostwritten tweet, takes full credit for ghostwritten books.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:30:43pm

blech

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Jay C  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:31:58pm

re: #124 Blind Frog Belly White

Apropos yesterday’s discussion of the term “Cultural Marxism”

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Except that I think that Yglesias is way overestimating the percentage of “Frankfurt School” references, he’s pretty much spot-on. Myself, I’d put that “15%” figure at more like “3% - if that” YMMV…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:32:11pm

re: #125 jaunte

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:34:46pm

re: #38 Belafon

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Nope. The only binary choice is between Republicans and Democrats. The opposite of closed borders is a myriad of choices, including those that have been going on for decades.

Which Naive American tribe does the name Conway come from anyway?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:36:33pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:37:25pm

re: #130 Eventual Carrion

Which Naive American tribe does the name Conway come from anyway?

Trumpkins. They were naive enough to vote for an obvious con man.
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(I love a good typo!)

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Scottish Dragon  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:37:25pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:37:50pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:39:22pm

re: #134 Patricia Kayden

Comically, and cosmically corrupt. It’s like he either is trying to grab everything he can before he goes, or he believes he’s immune to prosecution.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:39:58pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:41:03pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:42:12pm
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meteor  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:45:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:47:51pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:51:15pm
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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:52:37pm

Shit.

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:53:55pm

re: #122 Eventual Carrion

Was the “B” backwards?

That was exactly my first thought.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:54:02pm

re: #142 JordanRules

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Shit.

Oh wow I’ll be there next month.

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:54:12pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:54:29pm

re: #135 Blind Frog Belly White

I say both.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:55:06pm

Dear Uncle Ferd,
Our advance through the former country of the Red Hats continues apace. This has not been without some sad and melancholy episodes, however, necessary and just though these are. Yesterday an entire battalion of Meal Team Six was cut off from their line of retreat near here. They foolishly took refuge in a box canyon that was devoid of any kind of cover. The poor wretches actually believed the charlatans and witch doctors who had told them that they had all the guns. They were immediately subjected to a withering fire from above. In our humanity, we interrupted this several times and sent deputations with requests for surrender. These were rudely refused, for the same charlatans and witch-doctors had also told them that they would be sold to MS-13 for drugs and underage prostitutes if they were to fall alive into our hands. The firing perforce resumed, and continued until all had been extinguished.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:55:50pm

re: #142 JordanRules

Trump is creaming his soiled diaper watching this.

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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:55:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:56:25pm

re: #145 jaunte

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The Apollo astronauts wept.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:57:15pm

re: #149 gocart mozart

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Something tells me this person has no problem with Gorka.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 3, 2018 • 3:58:22pm

re: #142 JordanRules

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Shit.

Meanwhile Great Grandpa Bacon (The Wobblie) shakes with anger in his grave asking why Americans won’t do a general strike to shut everything down…

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:00:03pm

re: #142 JordanRules

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Shit.

I’m so old I remember when that shit was always about other countries, often near the Soviet sphere of influence. Rather than right freaking here.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:01:36pm

re: #108 Blind Frog Belly White

Maybe there’s something to the Pikachu/GOP Headquarters connection….

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Pika only read the sign halfway and thought there was Bacon in there.

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MsJ  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:02:08pm

Ha.

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wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:02:24pm

re: #153 Unshaken Defiance

I’m so old I remember when that shit was always about other countries, often near the Soviet sphere of influence. Rather than right freaking here.

We’re getting there, but Poland is still ‘an other country’

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:02:29pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:02:51pm

The secondcivilwar hashtag stuff was funny for a bit but got stale. Let’s put it aside. I think we should be about ready to sign off and carbo-load. Tomorrow’s going to be a big day!!

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:03:54pm

re: #152 Joe Bacon 🌹

Meanwhile Great Grandpa Bacon (The Wobblie) shakes with anger in his grave asking why Americans won’t do a general strike to shut everything down…

I wonder too Joe. I have no idea what it would take to get the numbers we really need. Too many generally thoughtful people I encounter in about every sphere of life just don’t seem to care enough. LGF is the cherished exception!

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Teukka  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:04:24pm

re: #82 gocart mozart

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Is posting this video to him too OTT for the Dersch?

discommendation-ds9.flv

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:05:29pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:06:35pm

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

DT does not know how to ad-lib let alone subtract it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:06:49pm

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

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My cousin who was on Iwo Jima was an immigrant.

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MsJ  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:07:29pm

Awwww.

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wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:07:35pm

re: #158 Barefoot Grin

The secondcivilwar hashtag stuff was funny for a bit but got stale. Let’s put it aside. I think we should be about ready to sign off and carbo-load. Tomorrow’s going to be a big day!!

The one time they tested carbo loading with women instead of men, it didn’t work.

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:07:43pm

re: #153 Unshaken Defiance

I’m so old I remember when that shit was always about other countries, often near the Soviet sphere of influence. Rather than right freaking here.

It’s really quite jolting. Such a paradigm shift for so many.

We have a Congressional delegation in Moscow for the 4th ffs. I still can’t wrap my head around it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:07:44pm

John Daly and tough? He couldn’t at least name a football player? But I’m somehow the elitist not him.

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:08:32pm

re: #152 Joe Bacon 🌹

Meanwhile Great Grandpa Bacon (The Wobblie) shakes with anger in his grave asking why Americans won’t do a general strike to shut everything down…

Considering how weak unions are right now, I’m not surprised. We’re still in an era where they’re not seen as effective. You don’t even hear about many small strikes.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:09:04pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:09:05pm

re: #167 HappyWarrior

John Daly and tough? He couldn’t at least name a football player? But I’m somehow the elitist not him.

He’s aggravating his bone spurs.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:09:29pm

re: #149 gocart mozart

Also, she already has your money.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:10:30pm

re: #167 HappyWarrior

John Daly and tough? He couldn’t at least name a football player? But I’m somehow the elitist not him.

It’s a golf tournament

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:10:53pm

Boy does Philly have a lot of thunder and lightning tonight. It keeps rumbling.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:11:03pm
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Teukka  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:11:12pm

re: #169 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:11:37pm

re: #156 wrenchwench

We’re getting there, but Poland is still ‘an other country’

We already blocked a SCOTUS judge from being considered in anticipation of the *election of a Kremlin backed fascist crook. I think we’re there.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:11:39pm

On this day in 1971, Jim Morrison passed away.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:11:52pm

re: #167 HappyWarrior

John Daly and tough? He couldn’t at least name a football player? But I’m somehow the elitist not him.

The venue for the dinner where he’s speaking as the Greenbrier golf course/country club/resort, and there’s a golf tournament going on so he’s trying to be clever.

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:11:57pm

re: #175 Teukka

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I’m hoping yours is sarcastic because hers is.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:12:06pm

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

And failing.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:12:38pm

re: #172 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

It’s a golf tournament

Ohhhh. Well that explains a lot.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:12:38pm

re: #169 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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and coal mines never explode.
or collapse.

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:13:24pm

re: #180 Ace Rothstein

And failing.

Which ought to give people clues as to his other speeches. He just picks a few things and puts them together. I would love to hear his speech in the Hello Kitty train car.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:13:35pm

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

The venue for the dinner where he’s speaking as the Greenbrier golf course/country club/resort, and there’s a golf tournament going on so he’s trying to be clever.

Yeah I see now. Sorry I’m so used to Trump pretending to be blue collar, I thought he was swindling some miners again.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:13:51pm

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

and coal mines never explode.
or collapse.

And nobody ever bombed a railroad.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:15:19pm

re: #174 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Jordan will be back as long as the assholes who vote for him vote for him.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:15:39pm

re: #183 Belafon

Which ought to give people clues as to his other speeches. He just picks a few things and puts them together. I would love to hear his speech in the Hello Kitty train car.

I’m starting to think that his followers are like babies when you talk to them - it doesn’t matter what he says to them. It’s the cadence of the speech and the attention they fasten onto.

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:16:01pm

re: #168 Belafon

Considering how weak unions are right now, I’m not surprised. We’re still in an era where they’re not seen as effective. You don’t even hear about many small strikes.

Yep and the collective action by the teachers was so major because it had been so long since we’ve seen it at that level, in multiple states across the country. I don’t think the press covered it well and I think they’ll write stupid takes about how nobody saw it coming in regards to how that action translates in November. Lots of teachers will be elected too.

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wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:16:02pm

re: #176 JordanRules

We already blocked a SCOTUS judge from being considered in anticipation of the *election of a Kremlin backed fascist crook. I think we’re there.

I am not in denial! AM NOT!

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:18:29pm

re: #189 wrenchwench

I am not in denial! AM NOT!

Oh shoot! I did not mean to interrupt your denial siesta. We all need them every once and again.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:20:40pm

re: #176 JordanRules

We are so there.
The government is refusing to release new stats on kids from separated families

It’s been 7 days since the government has released stats on separated kids in custody

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:21:08pm

blech again

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wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:21:30pm

re: #190 JordanRules

Oh shoot! I did not mean to interrupt your denial siesta. We all need them every once and again.

I’m planning to take the whole day tomorrow. Except to see if the Border Patrol is in the parade as they usually are.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:23:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:26:49pm

re: #194 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Too bad. You know they’d love it if it was anti Obama.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:28:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:29:42pm

lol…he finally deleted the “pour” tweet and replaced it:

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GrantS  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:29:53pm

Talk? Nope, but Trump will need to wipe his chin afterwards.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:30:10pm

re: #194 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

LOL where else would they shop?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:30:31pm

Moog in the mood to move
(sorry)

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:30:39pm

re: #196 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Good stuff.
Get your coins Dean!!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:33:39pm

re: #199 Ace Rothstein

LOL where else would they shop?

That shi-shi French store, Target

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:34:40pm
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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:35:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:35:05pm

re: #203 Patricia Kayden

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Of course he did.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:35:53pm

re: #200 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Moog in the mood to move
(sorry)

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I do hope the Bros know that Trump is proving Bernie’s views about trade wrong too.

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EPR-radar  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:36:01pm

re: #149 gocart mozart

Among others, I’m sure Betsy DeVos is markedly similar to Dolores Umbridge.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:36:21pm

re: #194 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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The DNC should be selling those. They’d make a boatload of money to finance tight campaigns.

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wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:37:08pm

re: #196 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[@DeanObeidallah

Happy to say we got a judgment versus the Nazis at The Daily Stormer for defaming me and inciting death threats. These “Fine people” will never silence us!! ]

And, somewhere a lurker laughs, curiously.

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Jack Burton  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:37:09pm

re: #152 Joe Bacon 🌹

Meanwhile Great Grandpa Bacon (The Wobblie) shakes with anger in his grave asking why Americans won’t do a general strike to shut everything down…

Easy. Nearly all Americans live paycheck to paycheck now and have a huge rent or mortgage to pay. If it can’t be done in a day or two with a high probability of success, it won’t happen until there’s a literal gun at their head.

I’m starting to think that *this* was a secondary or tertiary objective of screwing everyone on their paycheck since 1981.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:39:19pm

re: #209 wrenchwench

Well done.

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:39:28pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:40:40pm

re: #211 Ace Rothstein

Well done.

Sort of. I made myself cry. Hopefully nobody else.

Thanks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:42:37pm

re: #213 wrenchwench

Sort of. I made myself cry. Hopefully nobody else.

Thanks.

too late…

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:43:48pm

re: #213 wrenchwench

No crying. Only very fond memories of someone who gave me some photography tips. :)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:44:05pm

re: #158 Barefoot Grin

The secondcivilwar hashtag stuff was funny for a bit but got stale. Let’s put it aside. I think we should be about ready to sign off and carbo-load. Tomorrow’s going to be a big day!!

No, the potential has barely been tapped, though some posters have gotten stale or, indeed, started out that way. Covfefe is still around after a year, after all.

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:44:52pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:47:27pm

re: #210 Jack Burton

Easy. Nearly all Americans live paycheck to paycheck now and have a huge rent or mortgage to pay. If it can’t be done in a day or two with a high probability of success, it won’t happen until there’s a literal gun at their head.

I’m starting to think that *this* was a secondary or tertiary objective of screwing everyone on their paycheck since 1981.

Could be something to that. There was a perception in RW circles that the upheavals of the 60s were the work of itinerant hippies who lived on stored income and were therefore free to act. “Idle hands are the devil’s workshop.”

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Jack Burton  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:47:38pm

re: #210 Jack Burton

Also…

Most people have no savings and are up to their eyeballs in debt.

Blue States have a much higher cost of living than the Red Hat MAGAtland states.

Pretty sure that my landlord, cell phone company, credit card companies, car insurance company, etc. etc. etc. aren’t going to give a rats ass why I can’t pay my bills or who or what I’m protesting. It’s reasonable to assume that most others are in that same boat.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:47:53pm

Sitting here foot propped up and getting my a1c down. This appears on my You Tube feed…

The Quest for the Ultimate Patty Melt | The Burger Show

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:52:12pm

re: #216 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

No, the potential has barely been tapped, though some posters have gotten stale or, indeed, started out that way. Covfefe is still around after a year, after all.

Someone on my FB ranted against the hashtag. I did not comment, but if I did I would have polity pointed out that many of us need a laugh now and then. I’m doing my best, but barely holding on to my sanity here. If we can’t laugh at Alex Jones, who can we make fun of. Keep them coming. We can laugh and freaks and be outraged at the same time.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:53:05pm

re: #165 wrenchwench

The one time they tested carbo loading with women instead of men, it didn’t work.

You’re on your own then. Just, you know, come tomorrow, you’ll be playing out of the rough while the men play from the fairway.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:53:14pm

Ha!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:54:01pm

re: #223 Patricia Kayden

Ha!

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Burned.

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wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:54:58pm

re: #222 Barefoot Grin

You’re on your own then. Just, you know, come tomorrow, you’ll be playing out of the rough while the men play from the fairway.

Fat loading is much more fun. Gonna have to come up with a new name for ICE cream though.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:56:24pm

re: #225 wrenchwench

Fat loading is much more fun. Gonna have to come up with a new name for ICE cream though.

How about Ben and Jerry’s?

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:56:35pm

re: #225 wrenchwench

Use a brand name like “Haagen Daz”

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:58:36pm
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wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:58:36pm

I’ve been to Pasadena. Not this one, though.

Later, lizards.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:59:00pm

re: #225 wrenchwench

Gelato? Not exactly the same but kinda…

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wrenchwench  Jul 3, 2018 • 4:59:03pm

re: #227 PhillyPretzel

Use a brand name like “Haagen Daz”

Blue Bunny!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:00:30pm

re: #228 Single-handed sailor

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This is something dictatorships do to children.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:02:24pm

re: #221 I Would Prefer Not To

Someone on my FB ranted against the hashtag. I did not comment, but if I did I would have polity pointed out that many of us need a laugh now and then. I’m doing my best, but barely holding on to my sanity here. If we can’t laugh at Alex Jones, who can we make fun of. Keep them coming. We can laugh and freaks and be outraged at the same time.

Plus (forgive me for quoting myself) the only way to battle Alex Jones is to make fun of him. Logic doesn’t work against his fans or anyone that loves conspiracy theories. The 2nd civil war tag is perfect for this.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:02:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:03:38pm

re: #234 Single-handed sailor

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I used to sort of respect her but she’s proven herself to be awful the past two years.

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Winston_Smith  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:04:10pm

re: #234 Single-handed sailor

IS she as dumb as she looks?

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:04:34pm

re: #228 Single-handed sailor

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I feel so sick.

Media also not covering all the OccupyICE actions across the country.

This is Wichita!

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:04:37pm

re: #236 Winston_Smith

Yes.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:06:13pm

Sessions looks like he has taken up heavy drinking.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:06:33pm

re: #237 JordanRules

I feel so sick.

Media also not covering all the OccupyICE actions across the country.

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This is Wichita!

Our Corporate Controlled Conservative Press has more important things to cover such as tomorrow’s Nathan’s Hotdog Contest at Coney Island!

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Winston_Smith  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:07:26pm

re: #240 Joe Bacon 🌹

You got that right.

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:08:57pm
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lawhawk  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:09:27pm

re: #21 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Without a doubt, this should be the only thing on the front pages of the media and newspapers.

Instead? It’s a mixed bag of other stories.

Want to demolish Trumpworld? It goes back to his corruption, criminality, and a big assist from Putin.

The Senate report pulls no punches on that count. Trump indisputably gained benefit from Russian interference. The only ones who deny this are House GOPers like Nunes, and Trumpworld itself (with their media echo chamber playing backing vocals).

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:10:05pm

re: #240 Joe Bacon 🌹

Our Corporate Controlled Conservative Press has more important things to cover such as tomorrow’s Nathan’s Hotdog Contest at Coney Island!

Indeed.
But they just loved to amplify all the Koch addicted tea-party idiocy.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:12:46pm

re: #244 JordanRules

Indeed.
But they just loved to amplify all the Koch addicted tea-party idiocy.

Just look how Rob Rogers was fired from the Pittsburgh Post Gazette because his cartoons offended his Trump asskising publisher!

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lawhawk  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:12:56pm

Trump again seeks to screw minorities and keep them in their place.

He wants to reverse yet another Obama policy, and end race-based admissions preferences that help minorities gain entry to colleges. Trump’s next Supreme Court pick will probably end affirmative action programs designed to help minorities recover from decades of discrimination (that continue to this day).

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:14:07pm

Pottersplaining

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:15:09pm

re: #233 I Would Prefer Not To

Plus (forgive me for quoting myself) the only way to battle Alex Jones is to make fun of him. Logic doesn’t work against his fans or anyone that loves conspiracy theories. The 2nd civil war tag is perfect for this.

Besides that, mocking the traitors and agitators will have a crucial role in preserving sanity as the Idiocracy runs its course.
Personally, I still cannot wrap my mind around the idea that a militant and at least semi-organized incel movement is actually a thing, or that there are millions of people who do not realize that governments other than ours might have less than honorable intentions. Sometimes when I talk to conspiracy dupes I get the spooky impression that they do not know that other governments, with their own spy agencies, even exist.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:15:34pm

re: #247 JordanRules

Pottersplaining

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This is like the religious right’s interpretation of the Bible where Trump is jlike Jesus of Nazareth rather than the people who looked down on him.

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:16:44pm

re: #247 JordanRules

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:20:19pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:22:56pm

OH, HELL NO!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:23:11pm

re: #250 JordanRules

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Harry Potter and the Proud Boys.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:23:30pm

re: #252 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

OH, HELL NO!

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Some shit you just can’t make up.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:24:08pm

re: #252 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

In other words, a cult.

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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:24:52pm
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steve_davis  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:25:22pm

re: #113 A Mom Anon

And the purpose of school is what? What in the actual fuck is WRONG with people? This should not even be in fucking question.

technically, public school exists to socialize children. anything more than that is a bonus.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:27:49pm

re: #257 steve_davis

technically, public school exists to socialize children. anything more than that is a bonus.

That’s not what most parents expect of the schools they send their children to.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:28:25pm

re: #255 Ace Rothstein

In other words, a cult.

Long as it’s Christian, it’s okay.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:30:20pm

re: #249 HappyWarrior

This is like the religious right’s interpretation of the Bible where Trump is jlike Jesus of Nazareth rather than the people who looked down on him.

The Bible of the Religious Right is Atlas Shurgged. Their Jesus is John Galt. Their St. Peter is Trump.

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steve_davis  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:30:51pm

re: #139 meteor

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and something happened in the kitchen while you were asleep. best not to go in there. ever.

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:31:36pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:31:51pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:33:02pm

re: #257 steve_davis

technically, public school exists to socialize children. anything more than that is a bonus.

Well, that judge ruled the same way that the School Bored in my home town did.

They believed that the sole purpose of school was to have a winning football team with basketball coming in 2nd. Actual education was put on the back burner. That’s why I spent a lot of time in the town library reading The Great Books Of The Western World.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:35:03pm

re: #262 jaunte

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lawhawk  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:35:53pm

re: #256 gocart mozart

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:35:54pm

re: #265 Barefoot Grin

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I’m sure Lynn said worse about Obama in Russian.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:36:05pm

re: #265 Barefoot Grin

That is why I have called DT in the past the uncouth one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:39:44pm

I do not care if this is real or not.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:40:30pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:40:35pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:42:26pm

re: #213 wrenchwench

Sort of. I made myself cry. Hopefully nobody else.

Thanks.

Well, ummmm it’s okay.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:42:47pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:47:03pm

Thread

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:47:43pm
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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:48:11pm
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Winston_Smith  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:49:02pm

re: #273 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Is it really funny though?

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:49:39pm

re: #274 gocart mozart

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:52:34pm

Currently H-4. Be ready.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:54:43pm

re: #276 gocart mozart

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I was just reading the section in Richard J. Evans’ The Coming of the Third Reich where he discusses how the Nazis conveniently threaded two hate strands: hatred of Bolshevism/Communism and hatred of Jews (cast as the instigators of Bolshevism and cultural decadence) were threaded to make a powerful method of stigmatism and propaganda that survives to this day.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:54:48pm

re: #279 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Currently H-4. Be ready.

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Hot topless blondes with acoustic guitars? Why don’t we have parties like this every July 4th?!?

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:55:19pm

re: #275 Single-handed sailor

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:56:56pm

re: #281 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Hot topless blondes with acoustic guitars? Why don’t we have parties like this every July 4th?!?

My oldest brother told me about how a church friend took him aside in 1973 when he was a senior in high school and about to go to college to warn him about all the temptations that awaited him on evil liberal college campuses. He said, “I was like, ‘hell yeah, tell me more!’”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:57:35pm

re: #282 Unshaken Defiance

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Anyone who is naive enough to believe that Russia isn’t a threat (as is the implication in the Hypnowald’s tweet) will be in for a rude awakening when he is the first one to be lined up against the wall and shot when the Motherland conquers all.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:58:05pm

re: #275 Single-handed sailor

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“Has NATO outlived its usefulness?” was a common Soviet propaganda talking point in the 70s and 80s.

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 5:58:17pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:02:37pm

re: #286 JordanRules

This should be the lead story, above the fold, of every newspaper in this country, including a 24-hour loop on the networks (minus Fox, of course). But this stupid fucking country would rather watch porn.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:03:41pm

re: #286 JordanRules

Fuck. Just, fuck.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:04:36pm

re: #282 Unshaken Defiance

Funny thing is, what’s happened since the seizure of Crimea has reinforced a lot of the reasoning for NATO (and even before that there was worrying stuff).

This whole counter-intuitive hand-waves what Russia’s been doing since the collapse of the USSR, and why it would be a concern for European nations.

Not that I’d ever accuse Greenwald of depth.

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Winston_Smith  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:05:35pm

re: #280 Barefoot Grin

Excellent series.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:05:52pm

re: #286 JordanRules

I read this stuff and I see red.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:07:22pm

re: #291 Unshaken Defiance

::: watching “The Hunt for Red October” :::

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:08:46pm

re: #288 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Fuck. Just, fuck.

So much is so broken.

re: #291 Unshaken Defiance

I read this stuff and I see red.

Same.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:09:07pm

Then again, should we be surprised? We still have terror suspects in Guantanamo that have been held in captivity for 18 years without ever being charged.

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BeachDem  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:09:13pm

Something to celebrate

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:09:38pm
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ipsos  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:10:52pm

I had the - pleasure? - of driving through Jim Jordan territory on the way to see the in-laws last week. It has its occasional moments, including the Neil Armstrong Air & Space Museum in Wapakoneta, and I ate at a diner with pie that was almost as good as I imagine Vicious Babushka’s to be. But it is deep, deep, BLOOD red territory, as red as Ohio gets except maybe around Cincinnati or down by the WV border.

Watch them do the mental gymnastics to excuse the hell out of anything the news reports about Jordan. They will.

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:12:40pm

re: #296 jaunte

Show people this quote when they get offended when you say we’re at war.

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teleskiguy  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:14:25pm

re: #284 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Hypnowald

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:14:34pm

I am going to vomit

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:16:41pm
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Interesting Times  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:17:28pm

I recall a few people here speculating that AOC only won because of low turnout in the NY-14 primary. Well…see last point in this tweet - everything’s relative:

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:17:44pm

re: #300 Backwoods_Sleuth

I am going to vomit

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And they fought against tyrants like you, Donald.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:18:11pm

Maddow tonight.

YOW

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:18:27pm

re: #299 teleskiguy

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I’ve been calling him that for a while, since he seems to have an odd mesmerizing effect on his worshippers. I dunno why it sprang to mind, but I’m glad it stuck.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:18:35pm

re: #301 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is cute but I prefer yesterday’s goose.

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:19:58pm

re: #302 Interesting Times

The only real response to anything about her is this: The Democratic Party is big enough to represent all Americans, from those in New York to those in West Virginia and Alabama. The GOP only represents its wealthy donors, and cons its poor voters.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:21:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:22:59pm

!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:23:46pm

re: #309 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But, adjust the aim of that .38 by just a couple of millimeters, and it’s the glass that shatters. Physics is awesome.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:24:14pm
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BeachDem  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:24:50pm

re: #297 ipsos

I had the - pleasure? - of driving through Jim Jordan territory on the way to see the in-laws last week. It has its occasional moments, including the Neil Armstrong Air & Space Museum in Wapakoneta, and I ate at a diner with pie that was almost as good as I imagine Vicious Babushka’s to be. But it is deep, deep, BLOOD red territory, as red as Ohio gets except maybe around Cincinnati or down by the WV border.

Watch them do the mental gymnastics to excuse the hell out of anything the news reports about Jordan. They will.

You could have driven many parts of Ohio and caught a tip of Jim Jordan’s district—such totally logical district boundaries.

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:28:34pm

This is Kay Granger’s opponent:

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ipsos  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:30:10pm

re: #312 BeachDem

Very true. It’s almost impossible to take any reasonable route from here to there without crossing through Jordan-land.

And the maps remind me that, in fact, the superlative pie wasn’t in Jordan’s district after all.

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Interesting Times  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:30:24pm

When asked about that type of appreciation, Cheeto Benito wondered if “Gini” was a beauty contestant he’d previously ogled…

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BeachDem  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:33:59pm

re: #302 Interesting Times

I recall a few people here speculating that AOC only won because of low turnout in the NY-14 primary. Well…see last point in this tweet - everything’s relative:

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Not sure where check mark 4 comes from:

Though Ocasio-Cortez whipped up energy among voters in the Queens and Bronx district, and there is little to compare voter turnout to because Crowley had not been challenged since 2004, the primary election was decided, like most elections in New York, by a relatively small number of people.

…With 235,745 registered Democrats as of April, according to the BOE, this comes out to a turnout of around 11.8 percent. This turnout is about the same as in Crowley’s last competitive primary, in 2004.

gothamgazette.com

OK—she’s saying last off-year midterm primary, but when would that have been?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:34:11pm

re: #313 Belafon

Spending the Fourth of July… In Russia? What the actual bejesusing fuck is wrong with these people? Do they not know how bad the optics are on this?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:35:18pm

re: #317 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Spending the Fourth of July… In Russia? What the actual bejesusing fuck is wrong with these people? Do they not know how bad the optics are on this?

they. do. not. care.

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Winston_Smith  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:36:35pm

re: #317 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Spending the Fourth of July… In Russia? What the actual bejesusing fuck is wrong with these people? Do they not know how bad the optics are on this?

They’re Republicans. There are no bad optics. May as well get to know the people who run America now.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:37:00pm

re: #319 Winston_Smith

They’re Republicans. There are no bad optics. May as well get to know the people who run America now.

Fuck it. Imma go to Moscow for May Day. Because why the fuck not.

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petesh  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:38:56pm

re: #320 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Fuck it. Imma go to Moscow for May Day. Because why the fuck not.

Why not? Because that’s when you go to the White House!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:39:23pm

Fiction, falsehood, lie? It matters not.
It’s canon now

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Jay C  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:41:03pm

re: #317 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Spending the Fourth of July… In Russia? What the actual bejesusing fuck is wrong with these people? Do they not know how bad the optics are on this?

BTW, is there any “official” cover for this trip, or did six Republican Senators and a Congresswoman just, I dunno, get together in the Senate Bar one day and decide to take a trip to Moscow over the Fourth?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:41:14pm

re: #321 petesh

Why not? Because that’s when you go to the White House!

… Well played, my lizard friend. Well played.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:41:55pm

re: #323 Jay C

BTW, is there any “official” cover for this trip, or did six Republican Senators and a Congresswoman just, I dunno, get together in the Senate Bar one day and decide to take a trip to Moscow over the Fourth?

Six Republican Senators, a Congresswoman, and an unnamed party of Eastern European “unofficial diplomats”. /wink /wink /nudge /nudge

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:42:35pm

re: #317 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Spending the Fourth of July… In Russia? What the actual bejesusing fuck is wrong with these people? Do they not know how bad the optics are on this?

Ft. Worth is the largest conservative city in Texas, it’s number five in size and the largest one that voted for Trump. Except for the occultists, maybe this will affect the veterans in the area.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:43:14pm

The only conclusion that you can draw from the evidence that Rachel is posting is that Russia has completely blackmailed Republican Senators and Congressmen.

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:43:39pm

re: #319 Winston_Smith

They’re Republicans. There are no bad optics. May as well get to know the people who run America now.

Moore
Arpaio

There are bad optics.

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:44:00pm
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Interesting Times  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:44:36pm

re: #316 BeachDem

Not sure where check mark 4 comes from:

True, though 2004 wasn’t an “off-year primary.” So now I’m not sure either what she’s using as a point of comparison. She also had this mini-thread on NY voter suppression:

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:44:49pm

re: #328 Belafon

Moore
Arpaio

There are bad optics.

Yeah, but when the line you draw is “kiddie-diddler”, but “pro-Russian sellout” is okay, that’s still a hell of a fucked-up worldview.

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Winston_Smith  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:45:42pm

re: #331 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

A lot of people never drew that line.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:46:34pm

re: #332 Winston_Smith

A lot of people never drew that line.

Don’t remind me. People like them are why I drink. Heavily and frequently.

/half - that fucked-up worldview is why I drink… but not as heavily or frequently as I imply.

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MsJ  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:47:14pm
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Belafon  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:47:41pm

re: #330 Interesting Times

True, though 2004 wasn’t an “off-year primary.” So now I’m not sure either what she’s using as a point of comparison. She also had this mini-thread on NY voter suppression:

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Find a number that, when multiplied by 1.68, gives you this year’s primary turnout.

And remember, parts of New York were covered by the VRA.

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Interesting Times  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:48:36pm

re: #332 Winston_Smith

A lot of people never drew that line.

This is true. The child molester would have won had it not been for dramatically increased turnout among black women. Moral of the story? There’s no such thing as a GOPer too depraved or horrible for the base (nor the tut-tutting, lip-service-only rubber-stamps like Collins and Flake).

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:50:12pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:50:19pm

re: #336 Interesting Times

This is true. The child molester would have won had it not been for dramatically increased turnout among black women. Moral of the story? There’s no such thing as a GOPer too depraved or horrible for the base (nor the tut-tutting, lip-service-only rubber-stamps like Collins and Flake).

Goes back to what I’ve been saying for nigh on a decade. The right-wing nutjobs are only in it for the power and will seize on literally any excuse to dismiss allegations against their chosen candidate. And since the Republicans have been sticking to their God, Guns, Abortion mantra, that means that evangelical America is officially and fanatically Republican until Armageddon levels the planet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:51:03pm
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BeachDem  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:51:55pm

re: #330 Interesting Times

True, though 2004 wasn’t an “off-year primary.” So now I’m not sure either what she’s using as a point of comparison. She also had this mini-thread on NY voter suppression:

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I was just holding my breath, waiting for her to call for OPEN PRIMARIES.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:52:42pm

re: #334 MsJ

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This administration is treating asylum seekers like criminals. This is unconscionable.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:54:36pm

re: #308 Charles Johnson

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Jay C  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:54:40pm

re: #330 Interesting Times

True, though 2004 wasn’t an “off-year primary.” So now I’m not sure either what she’s using as a point of comparison. She also had this mini-thread on NY voter suppression:

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Yeah, I’m not sure what AOC is bitching about there (especially as that “suppressed” voter turnout was, at bottom, the key to her victory) - she does make a good point about the multiple-primaries thing we have here in NY: but “voter suppression”? SRSLY?
Admittedly, New York doesn’t go out of its way to make it easier to register and vote (anecdata here: Mrs. Jay is disabled enough not to want to have to go vote in person, the City Board of Elections* thus barrages her - and me, if I request it - with plenty of timely mail-in ballots; even the ridiculous single-candidate-primary ones), but Alabama it ain’t.

*Maybe a City v. State thing, ¿quien sabe?

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petesh  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:55:06pm

re: #341 Patricia Kayden

This administration is treating asylum seekers like criminals. This is unconscionable.

Precisely. The members of this administration either have no conscience or successfully suppress it.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:55:40pm

re: #339 Backwoods_Sleuth

Remember when Republicans freaked out because of the Iran Deal because it allegedly was too favorable to Iran. Now they’re competing to cowtow to the Russians who actually interfered with our elections. At the very least, Iran has never interfered with our democracy.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:56:21pm

re: #342 Unshaken Defiance

Merriam-Webster’s social media director just got a big fat raise.

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MsJ  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:56:35pm

re: #341 Patricia Kayden

This administration is treating asylum seekers like criminals. This is unconscionable.

And I have some idiot on Twitter saying I shouldn’t demonize the other side. Fuck that. Call a monster a monster. End of discussion.

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Cheechako  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:57:18pm

re: #345 Patricia Kayden

Remember when Republicans freaked out because of the Iran Deal because it allegedly was too favorable to Iran. Now they’re competing to cowtow to the Russians who actually interfered with our elections. At the very least, Iran has never interfered with our democracy.

Ahhh…check when the hostages were released.

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MsJ  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:57:19pm
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petesh  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:57:27pm

re: #343 Jay C

Yeah, I’m not sure what AOC is bitching about there (especially as that “suppressed” voter turnout was, at bottom, the key to her victory) - she does make a good point about the multiple-primaries thing we have here in NY: but “voter suppression”? SRSLY?
Admittedly, New York doesn’t go out of its way to make it easier to register and vote (anecdata here: Mrs. Jay is disabled enough not to want to have to go vote in person, the City Board of Elections* thus barrages her - and me, if I request it - with plenty of timely mail-in ballots; even the ridiculous single-candidate-primary ones), but Alabama it ain’t.

*Maybe a City v. State thing, ¿quien sabe?

1. She is not bitching, she is making a constructive contribution.
2. She boasts about increasing voter turnout, and ascribes her success to that.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:57:32pm

re: #347 MsJ

And I have some idiot on Twitter saying I shouldn’t demonize the other side. Fuck that. Call a monster a monster. End of discussion.

The other side demonizes children seeking asylum as rapists. Fuck em.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:57:42pm

re: #347 MsJ

And I have some idiot on Twitter saying I shouldn’t demonize the other side. Fuck that. Call a monster a monster. End of discussion.

There’s a part of me that agrees - demonizing the other side, for no particularly good reason, is part of what caused the current political climate. On the other hand, there’s a hell of a lot of good reasons to demonize the GOP and the Nazis that they explicitly support. So, um, yeah, fuck that noise, imma demonize the hell out of them until they stop supporting honest-to-God fucking Nazis.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:59:13pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 6:59:54pm

re: #352 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

There’s a part of me that agrees - demonizing the other side, for no particularly good reason, is part of what caused the current political climate. On the other hand, there’s a hell of a lot of good reasons to demonize the GOP and the Nazis that they explicitly support. So, um, yeah, fuck that noise, imma demonize the hell out of them until they stop supporting honest-to-God fucking Nazis.

My opinion is conservatives can dish it out but can’t take it. How many times were we accused of being pedophiles because we support lgbt rights or okay with 9/11 since we don’t hate Muslims.

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:00:52pm

It seems that the people in New York know of the issues (Jeffrey Toobin, New Yorker):

For example, the Justice Department and liberal public-interest groups have charged that the decision by Republican-led states to cut back on early voting represents a form of discrimination against minority voters. So has early voting been cut back in New York? No—because the state does not allow any early voting. New York is one of only thirteen states that has no provision for early voting, and instead employs the archaic practice of giving voters only two choices: show up at the polls on Election Day or vote by absentee ballot.

But the disgrace of New York’s voting laws only begins there. New York not only lacks same-day voter registration—a valuable reform—but it requires voters to register at least twenty-five days before Election Day, which presents a meaningful barrier to many voters who want to participate. (Fourteen states and the District of Columbia allow same-day voter registration.) In addition, absentee voting is a cumbersome process in New York, which requires snail-mail exchanges between the voter and the local Board of Elections. (No e-mail requests are allowed for absentee voting.) It’s little wonder, then, that New York ranks forty-sixth in voter turnout.

Indeed, New York’s voting procedures have become a talking point for Republican-led states in defending their own regression on voting rights. In discussing their limitations on voting rights, North Carolina and Ohio have pointed to the New York rules. If other states can have restrictive policies, the argument goes, why can’t they? As John Kasich, the governor of Ohio, said when asked about his state’s decision to cut early voting from six weeks to four, “I do not know why you are picking on Ohio. Why don’t you go pick on New York?”

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wheat-dogg  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:00:57pm

Pwned!

Candice Patton plays Barry Allen’s wife in The Flash TV series.

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teleskiguy  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:02:26pm

Off to Aspen to see G. Love & Special Sauce. Catch y’all on the flipside.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:02:33pm

I realized how seriously my subconscious is taking this ICE and Trump-Russia disaster. The second civil war letter thing has been off putting. I could not figure out why. Then it hit me. I’m afraid there will be real ones.

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ipsos  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:02:51pm

Out here at the other end of New York State, 400 miles from AOC’s city district, we had a four-way primary for the Democratic nomination to replace the late Louise Slaughter in NY-25. It was as hotly contested as that seat has been in a couple of decades.

Voter turnout was about 16%, and the (establishment, party-endorsed, insider) candidate who won the nomination did so with about 15,000 votes, which was also about what the other three candidates got, combined.

My takeaway? When the federal primary is (deliberately) held in June, way before the state and local primaries later in the year, and when turnout is this ridiculously low, none of these races has any national meaning. Up here, the establishment guy (state assembly majority leader, longtime familiar local face) ran hard for the seat and pulled out 15,000 votes. Down there, AOC ran hard for her seat and pulled out 15,000 votes. In a nation of 330 million people and 130 million or so voters, what does that actually mean? Not a hell of a lot.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:04:11pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:05:41pm

re: #354 HappyWarrior

My opinion is conservatives can dish it out but can’t take it. How many times were we accused of being pedophiles because we support lgbt rights or okay with 9/11 since we don’t hate Muslims.

Oh, you are so very, very right about that, no question.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:07:07pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:08:00pm

Jim has had a very long day…

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:09:35pm

re: #363 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jim has had a very long day…

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American Jesus’ birthday as July 4. That’s actually a little profound.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:09:56pm

re: #359 ipsos

Out here at the other end of New York State, 400 miles from AOC’s city district, we had a four-way primary for the Democratic nomination to replace the late Louise Slaughter in NY-25. It was as hotly contested as that seat has been in a couple of decades.

Voter turnout was about 16%, and the (establishment, party-endorsed, insider) candidate who won the nomination did so with about 15,000 votes, which was also about what the other three candidates got, combined.

My takeaway? When the federal primary is (deliberately) held in June, way before the state and local primaries later in the year, and when turnout is this ridiculously low, none of these races has any national meaning. Up here, the establishment guy (state assembly majority leader, longtime familiar local face) ran hard for the seat and pulled out 15,000 votes. Down there, AOC ran hard for her seat and pulled out 15,000 votes. In a nation of 330 million people and 130 million or so voters, what does that actually mean? Not a hell of a lot.

I’m happy for her but in some ways, she’s actually s rejection of the Bernie model she claims. She ran as proud of her Latina heritage that is prevalent in her district. Bernie disdains so called identity politics. She ran a smart campaign and I applaud that but it’s not the game changer.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:11:36pm

The responses are what you might expect

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:13:48pm

Really Skillet?

2 ounces gin
3/4 ounce fresh lemon juice
1 bar spoon of raspberry (or your other favorite) jam

The Cosmonaut Cocktail Is the Perfect 4th of July Drink

Happy weekend, and welcome back to 3-Ingredient Happy Hour, the weekly drink column featuring super simple yet delicious libations. Independence Day is coming up, but recent political shenanigans have made me feel less than patriotic. As such, I’ll be celebrating with Sasha Petraske’s Cosmonaut cocktail, because we should always remember that a degenerated workers’ state beat us into space.

Both Petraske’s parents and grandparents were communists and, according to his obituary, this caused him to possess both “a distrust of capitalism and a sympathy for the laboring classes.” Though there isn’t really anything Russian about this cocktail—it’s more of a riff on the ubiquitous-at-the-time Cosmopolitan—I’m still very into the idea of sipping these tart, very slightly sweet gin-based beauties rather than pounding light beer after light beer.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:14:15pm

re: #366 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The responses are what you might expect

[Embedded content]

I never thought about it that way but if it makes people realize love comes in all forms, more power to the late Arnold Lobel.

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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:18:27pm
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Belafon  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:18:48pm

re: #366 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The responses are what you might expect

[Embedded content]

They should have said amphiguous.

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ipsos  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:19:06pm

re: #365 HappyWarrior

It’s a big state. AOC was the right candidate for her district, and I’m thrilled for them and for her. I agree with you that her win didn’t tell us anything much about Bernie, or about democratic socialists, or about Democrats In Disarray, or anything else the political gasbags are trying to make it about.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:19:25pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:19:48pm

1.) Acting like she’s already won (“how many other House Democrats”)
2.) Citing her fucking undergrad degree as an appeal to authority specifically challenging Democrats.

Not a great look.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:21:05pm

My wife has a question for Anymouse, since he knows all about the flag code.

She wants to know if the mayor of Annapolis needed the President’s permission to lower the city’s flags to half mast and if so, why?

Thanks in advance.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:22:29pm

re: #371 ipsos

It’s a big state. AOC was the right candidate for her district, and I’m thrilled for them and for her. I agree with you that her win didn’t tell us anything much about Bernie, or about democratic socialists, or about Democrats In Disarray, or anything else the political gasbags are trying to make it about.

I really think her win says more about changing demographics in her district and how Joe Crowley like Eric Cantor got complacent. I wish her well but for every upstart like her that has won, there’s been more that fell flat.

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:23:22pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:25:15pm

re: #373 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

1.) Acting like she’s already won (“how many other House Democrats”)
2.) Citing her fucking undergrad degree as an appeal to authority specifically challenging Democrats.

Not a great look.

It really is one thing to have a degree in economics and actually practice them. Ludwig Von Misss knee much more about economics than I do but the big difference is we realize economics is a breathing beast. But yeah she’s coming off immature here. I want her to do well but she should listen to her future colleagues here many of whom probably do know a thing or two about economics and I agree she hasn’t won yet.

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:25:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:25:54pm

re: #376 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

Which is why we had so so many terrorist attacks before ICE.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:27:28pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:27:31pm

As for the abolish ICE message. How many times have we gotten in trouble trying to go more nuance and honestly ICE as we know it should be abolished.

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Winston_Smith  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:28:52pm

re: #373 goddamnedfrank

Agree.

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makeitstop  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:30:16pm

This ought to be good for an argument or two: American Anthems: The Songs That Unite Us

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jaunte  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:30:45pm
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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:31:43pm

re: #373 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

1.) Acting like she’s already won (“how many other House Democrats”)
2.) Citing her fucking undergrad degree as an appeal to authority specifically challenging Democrats.

Not a great look.

That tweet made my cringe this morning but after I read it again later, not so much. The wording can sound braggy but it can also be a noob trying to find some fraternal footing.

One thing’s for sure, she’s in the media capital of the world and she’ll have to contend with that dynamic like a boss and in ways other candidates don’t. She’s had more hits than misses so far, I think.

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Winston_Smith  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:32:11pm

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

I believe $270 million was found in his house. You never know when you’re going to have to pay for a pizza delivery.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:33:40pm

re: #386 Winston_Smith

I believe $270 million was found in his house. You never know when you’re going to have to pay for a pizza delivery.

sounds like that politician in Louisiana who kept the stacks of money in his freezer.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:34:55pm

re: #374 Romantic Heretic

My wife has a question for Anymouse, since he knows all about the flag code.

She wants to know if the mayor of Annapolis needed the President’s permission to lower the city’s flags to half mast and if so, why?

Thanks in advance.

Not to butt in, but I will anyway. I believe the mayor was asking the White House to lower the flags at federal installations.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:36:45pm

re: #388 wheat-dogg

Not to butt in, but I will anyway. I believe the mayor was asking the White House to lower the flags at federal installations.

I read yesterday that the mayor was thinking about lowering the American flag along with the city and state flags, but decided against it because he didn’t want to upset people.

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petesh  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:36:55pm

re: #385 JordanRules

That tweet made my cringe this morning but after I read it again later not so much. The wording can sound braggy but it can also be a noob trying to find some fraternal footing.

One thing’s for sure, she’s in the media capital of the world and she’ll have to contend with that dynamic like a boss and in ways other candidates don’t. She’s had more hits than misses so far, I think.

I completely agree, and think Ocasio-Cortez needs and deserves support. That does not mean completely uncritical support, but some of the kvetching I see sounds like a bunch of old jealous folks. (I’m old, too; I know my people.) And if she can get Twitterers to say “What’s Gini?” she will have done us all a great service, because most people do not know.

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:37:51pm

re: #383 makeitstop

This ought to be good for an argument or two: American Anthems: The Songs That Unite Us

No Juvenile “Back That Azz Up”?
List invalid!

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:38:11pm

re: #388 wheat-dogg

I heard on the news just now that Trump lowered the White House flags for the murdered journalists. He must have got some pressure after his initial refusal.

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:38:21pm

re: #376 JordanRules

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MsJ  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:38:32pm

re: #386 Winston_Smith

I believe $270 million was found in his house. You never know when you’re going to have to pay for a pizza delivery.

How does one have $270 million dollars just lying about? Was it in, like, a couple dozen freezers?

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wheat-dogg  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:38:39pm

re: #387 Backwoods_Sleuth

sounds like that politician in Louisiana who kept the stacks of money in his freezer.

Anti-corruption agents in China have found some government officials with stacks of 100-yuan notes hidden inside walls or stuffed inside plastic garbage bags, where they typically get moldy and nasty.

Storing huge sums of cash is not as easy as it sounds. That’s how banks came into being.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:39:57pm

re: #389 Backwoods_Sleuth

I read yesterday that the mayor was thinking about lowering the American flag along with the city and state flags, but decided against it because he didn’t want to upset people.

Here it is (from the Baltimore Sun)

While Buckley had previously thought he might lower the city’s American flags regardless of the president’s decision, the mayor said his wife talked him out of that.

“At this point in time, it would start to polarize people and I don’t want to make people angry,” he said.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:40:24pm

re: #394 MsJ

How does one have $270 million dollars just lying about? Was it in, like, a couple dozen freezers?

But Bitcoin is the tool of criminals, we are told.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:41:03pm

re: #369 gocart mozart

I can’t even respond to the stupidity of claiming that you are pro-choice but being okay with the overruling of Roe v. Wade. Doesn’t make a lick of sense.

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MsJ  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:41:12pm

re: #397 wheat-dogg

But Bitcoin is the tool of criminals, we are told.

It is. But that’s besides the point. 😁

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makeitstop  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:41:37pm

re: #391 JordanRules

No Juveile “Back That Azz Up”?
List invalid!

No ‘Choctaw Bingo’ either.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:43:19pm

re: #384 jaunte

I cringe whenever people invoke Neville Chamberlain and appeasement because he faced a far more complex situation that the GOP. The GOP is just abdicating their responsibilities. Chamberlain had to buy time.

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MsJ  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:43:19pm

re: #398 Patricia Kayden

I can’t even respond to the stupidity of claiming that you are pro-choice but being okay with the overruling of Roe v. Wade.

Narrator: She’s not. At all..

Doesn’t make a lick of sense.

See above.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:44:12pm

the moron will be all over this:

CINCINNATI (WKRC) - There is a nationwide manhunt for three men accused of raping two Ohio teenagers.

Police say the men kidnapped the sisters, who are 13 and 14 years old, and took them to a hotel in Bowling Green, Ohio and raped them.

Doctors alerted police when the girls’ mother took them to the emergency room.

The men are not United States citizens and investigators believe they left the area.

The names of the three men are David Ramos Contreras, Rios Adiel and Arnuflo Ramos. Juan Garcia has already been arrested and charged with being part of the crime.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:44:13pm

re: #401 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

I cringe whenever people invoke Neville Chamberlain and appeasement because he faced a far moer complex situation that the GOP. The GOP is just abdicating their responsibilities. Chamberlain had to buy time.

Agreed.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:46:04pm

In the grand scheme of things, this is not a big deal, but it bothers me when somebody tweeting photos about police officers tweets a photo of an EMT and claims he’s a police officer.

The uniform is obviously not a police uniform, and at first I thought it might have been a European officer. Nope, he’s an EMT in Pennsylvania.

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:46:29pm

re: #390 petesh

I completely agree, and think Ocasio-Cortez needs and deserves support. That does not mean completely uncritical support, but some of the kvetching I see sounds like a bunch of old jealous folks. (I’m old, too; I know my people.) And if she can get Twitterers to say “What’s Gini?” she will have done us all a great service, because most people do not know.

Imagine all the seasoned politicians with Twitter decades ago when they were first in the game. Missteps everywhere!

This tweet didn’t age well!!!!!!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:48:52pm

re: #405 wheat-dogg

In the grand scheme of things, this is not a big deal, but it bothers me when somebody tweeting photos about police officers tweets a photo of an EMT and claims he’s a police officer.

[Embedded content]

The uniform is obviously not a police uniform, and at first I thought it might have been a European officer. Nope, he’s an EMT.

It’s definitely an EMT. Not all cops are bad but memes like this annoy me because I think they infantize the young man pictured and tell us to ignore serious problems with policing.

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BeachDem  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:50:08pm

re: #373 goddamnedfrank

[Embedded content]

1.) Acting like she’s already won (“how many other House Democrats”)
2.) Citing her fucking undergrad degree as an appeal to authority specifically challenging Democrats.

Not a great look.

From 2014 (granted, the #s might have changed somewhat since then, but:

Twenty-seven members have undergraduate degrees in economics, according to a CQ database of the various educational degrees and occupations each congressmen lists on his resume.

Only two members have “economist” listed as a former job:

Rep. Jeff Fortenberry, R-Neb., who also has done stints as a congressional aide and a public relations manager at a publishing firm.

Rep. Scott Peters, D-Calif, says he was an economist for the Environmental Protection Agency during 1980-81. He subsequently became a lawyer.

And David Brat has a PhD in Economics.

Make of it what you will.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:50:21pm

Back from town. Ordered Canadian money (will be delivered Friday). My wife completed making reservations in the northern part of our trip. We leave next Tuesday (morning after the village board meeting).

North To Alaska ~ Johnny Horton

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:51:33pm

re: #403 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wonder why their citizenship status was necessary in that header?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:52:08pm

re: #408 BeachDem

From 2014 (granted, the #s might have changed somewhat since then, but:

And David Brat has a PhD in Economics.

Make of it what you will.

And Brat is a bomafide nut who tries to marry Ayn Rand’s theories to Calvinism. He’s actually in serious danger this year. That district is trending blue.

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Belafon  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:52:17pm

re: #407 HappyWarrior

It’s definitely an EMT. Not all cops are bad but memes like this annoy me because I think they infantize the young man pictured and tell us to ignore serious problems with policing.

I think you’re carrying this a bit too far. The kid asked for help. The tweeter was proud of their partner. There are lots of people that don’t know how to tie a tie.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:54:13pm

re: #396 Backwoods_Sleuth

Here it is (from the Baltimore Sun)

It would piss off the people who support the murders? I kinda lean towards “Fuck them!”.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:55:42pm

re: #412 Belafon

I think you’re carrying this a bit too far. The kid asked for help. The tweeter was proud of their partner. There are lots of people that don’t know how to tie a tie.

Fair enough. I don’t have a problem with the fellow EMT who tweeted it, more a problem with the police support USA that used it as a rah rah cops message. I probably am overthinking tho I concede.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:56:11pm

re: #413 Eventual Carrion

It would piss off the people who support the murders? I kinda lean towards “Fuck them!”.

Yeah no kidding.

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makeitstop  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:56:22pm

re: #410 JordanRules

I wonder why their citizenship status was necessary in that header?

What they’re accused of is horrific and if guilty, they should get what they deserve. That said, there’s some Grade A scaremongering going on in that story.

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dell*nix  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:57:31pm

re: #21 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Have not read very far yet. How long did they have access to the RNC computers? Did they have to hack or were passwords simply turned over to them? Did they have access to the Bush era computers? Exactly what do they have on the GOP?

418
Eventual Carrion  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:58:30pm

re: #400 makeitstop

No ‘Choctaw Bingo’ either.

Have us a time

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 3, 2018 • 7:59:31pm

re: #383 makeitstop

This ought to be good for an argument or two: American Anthems: The Songs That Unite Us

Needs more sedition.

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gocart mozart  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:00:12pm
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wheat-dogg  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:00:59pm

re: #409 Anymouse 🌹

Wait. Canada delivers money? Can you order it through Amazon? //

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MsJ  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:01:05pm

re: #413 Eventual Carrion

It would piss off the people who support the murders? I kinda lean towards “Fuck them!”.

Exactly.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:02:02pm

re: #422 MsJ

Exactly.

It’s a strange world where we’re concerned about people who support a murder and how they feel.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:03:30pm

re: #412 Belafon

I think you’re carrying this a bit too far. The kid asked for help. The tweeter was proud of their partner. There are lots of people that don’t know how to tie a tie.

You’re missing the point. The tweet says the guy in the uniform is a policeman, He isn’t. He’s not the tweeter’s partner, either. The photo dates from 2017, and it’s been recycled as a meme ever since.

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Teukka  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:04:42pm

re: #263 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

*something* *something* Holy madness *something* *something*
Not ///

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:05:49pm

re: #330 Interesting Times

True, though 2004 wasn’t an “off-year primary.” So now I’m not sure either what she’s using as a point of comparison. She also had this mini-thread on NY voter suppression:

The last off-year primary was 2014, not 2004.

427
Winston_Smith  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:07:08pm

re: #394 MsJ

How does one have $270 million dollars just lying about? Was it in, like, a couple dozen freezers?

Some of it was in million dollar jewelry pieces, and who knows how much was in drugs.

428
Winston_Smith  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:09:14pm

re: #420 gocart mozart

Lots of good the warning does now.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:11:38pm

re: #421 wheat-dogg

Wait. Canada delivers money? Can you order it through Amazon? //

LOL. They deliver it to my bank when I order it. (Regrettably, my bank makes me fill out a slip taking out the equivalent amount in Ameros out of my checking account, plus a delivery charge. My bank does not charge to convert foreign money any more, and my bank’s ATM card seems to work everywhere in the world where ATMs are connected to International networks. It worked in Canada the last time we were there, in Germany, in Poland, and in Denmark.)

430
Belafon  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:14:23pm

re: #414 HappyWarrior

Fair enough. I don’t have a problem with the fellow EMT who tweeted it, more a problem with the police support USA that used it as a rah rah cops message. I probably am overthinking tho I concede.

Totally agree on the cop thing.

431
BeachDem  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:15:14pm

re: #398 Patricia Kayden

I can’t even respond to the stupidity of claiming that you are pro-choice but being okay with the overruling of Roe v. Wade. Doesn’t make a lick of sense.

It’s Megan McArdle—it makes no sense by design.

432
Belafon  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:15:15pm

re: #420 gocart mozart

Except the warning is at the bottom.

433
HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:15:32pm

re: #430 Belafon

Totally agree on the cop thing.

You’re right that I overreacted on the tie thing. I can’t tie one myself so I’m a little insecure about that and would be a bit embarrassed seeing that made into a meme.

434
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:16:00pm

re: #345 Patricia Kayden

Remember when Republicans freaked out because of the Iran Deal because it allegedly was too favorable to Iran. Now they’re competing to cowtow to the Russians who actually interfered with our elections. At the very least, Iran has never interfered with our democracy.

I’m not forgetting or forgiving Reagan for making a deal with Iran to keep the hostages to stab Carter in the back.

435
Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:16:37pm

re: #413 Eventual Carrion

It would piss off the people who support the murders? I kinda lean towards “Fuck them!”.

Strictly speaking, a mayor does not have the authority under the US Flag Code to lower a flag. That is reserved to the President or state governor.

Gov. Hogan did order the flag lowered across Maryland.

The one time I lowered the flag in my town without a proclamation (for the death of our long-serving village clerk), I asked the chairman of the board for permission to call the governor and ask permission. The lieutenant governor’s office called me back at home and gave authority to lower the flag on the day of her funeral. The state then issued a statewide proclamation naming the day after her.

436
HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:16:48pm

re: #434 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m not forgetting or forgiving Reagan for making a deal with Iran to keep the hostages to stab Carter in the back.

Have we conclusively proven that like we did Nixon and Vietnam?

437
Belafon  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:17:03pm

re: #433 HappyWarrior

You’re right that I overreacted on the tie thing. I can’t tie one myself so I’m a little insecure about that and would be a bit embarrassed seeing that made into a meme.

Yeah. I suspect the kid in the picture probably would have been OK with the original tweeting, but spreading would most likely be uncomfortable.

438
Ace-o-aces  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:17:08pm

I know, I’m late to the party, but I’m not allowed to post stuff from work and this joke has been rattling around in my head all day.

439
HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:17:57pm

re: #437 Belafon

Yeah. I suspect the kid in the picture probably would have been OK with the original tweeting, but spreading would most likely be uncomfortable.

Yeah.

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Ace-o-aces  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:23:48pm
441
plansbandc  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:24:07pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:24:23pm

re: #436 HappyWarrior

Have we conclusively proven that like we did Nixon and Vietnam?

Wikipedia lists it as a conspiracy theory, albeit with a lot of circumstantial evidence in support of it.

According to the allegation, the Reagan Administration rewarded Iran for its participation in the plot by supplying Iran with weapons via Israel and by unblocking Iranian government monetary assets in US banks.

After twelve years of mixed media attention, both houses of the US Congress held separate inquiries and concluded that the allegations lacked supporting documentation.

Nevertheless, several individuals—most notably former Iranian President Abulhassan Banisadr, former naval intelligence officer and U.S. National Security Council member Gary Sick, and former Reagan/Bush campaign staffer and White House analyst Barbara Honegger—have stood by the allegation.

October Surprise Conspiracy Theory (with details and the timeline of the development of that theory).

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Teukka  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:24:55pm

re: #440 Ace-o-aces

[Embedded content]

Either:
[ ] freaked out of his mind.
[ ] emboldened to the extent of ridiculously overestimating himself.
(tick those that apply)

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:26:34pm
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Belafon  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:29:27pm
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wheat-dogg  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:31:42pm

re: #433 HappyWarrior

You’re right that I overreacted on the tie thing. I can’t tie one myself so I’m a little insecure about that and would be a bit embarrassed seeing that made into a meme.

True story here: As a teacher I’m used to tying students’ ties for them. But no adult has ever asked for help — until I opened up a new bank account here in China. The bank officer, who I wager was in his 30s, asked my interpreter to ask me if I could tie his necktie for him. Poor fellow had the knot all cockeyed. I figure he had to rush out of the house to go to work, and didn’t have time to ask his wife or parent to do it for him.

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JordanRules  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:32:19pm

Getting an early start on my cookout music.

Malo - Suavecito

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HappyWarrior  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:32:40pm

re: #442 Anymouse 🌹

Wikipedia lists it as a conspiracy theory, albeit with a lot of circumstantial evidence in support of it.

October Surprise Conspiracy Theory (with details and the timeline of the development of that theory).

That was my thought, thanks.

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mmmirele  Jul 3, 2018 • 8:38:15pm

re: #394 MsJ

How does one have $270 million dollars just lying about? Was it in, like, a couple dozen freezers?

It was a mere $39.2 million in cash.

The rest of the haul consisted of:

Jewellery accounted for the biggest portion of the seizure — 12,000 pieces of jewellery that Mr Amar said would cost between 660 million and 880 million ringgit (between $222 million and $296 million) at retail prices.

He said the single most expensive item was a diamond necklace with yellow gold — worth 6.4 million ringgit ($2.15 million) at cost price.

and

Mr Amar also said police seized a total of 567 handbags in 37 different brands. The Hermes bags alone were worth 51.3 million ringgit ($17 million), he said.

The police also found 423 watches worth 78 million ringgit ($26.2 million) and 234 pairs of sunglasses.

abc.net.au

I remember hearing on the BBC that while US currency was found, there were other currencies as well, don’t know which ones.

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The Major  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:05:53am

re: #282 Unshaken Defiance

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The Major  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:10:15am

re: #292 PhillyPretzel

::: watching “The Hunt for Red October” :::

I still think Alec Baldwin was the best Jack Ryan in the entire movie series.


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The US Army Is Quietly Discharging Immigrant Recruits Martha Mendoza, Garance Burke, Associated Press SAN ANTONIO — Some immigrant U.S. Army reservists and recruits who enlisted in the military with a promised path to citizenship are being abruptly discharged, the Associated Press has learned. The AP was ...
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Dave Alvin - the 4th of July Every year, I find this song, with it's melancholia speaks more to me and every year I've been here, I've shared a version of the song. This year I thought I'd page it as well. Best known as a ...
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Delvon Lamarr Organ Trio - Al Greenery (Live on KEXP)kexp.org presents Delvon Lamarr Organ Trio performing "Al Greenery" live in the KEXP studio. Recorded April 5, 2018. Host: Kevin ColeAudio Engineer: Kevin SuggsCameras: Jim Beckmann, Scott Holpainen & Justin WilmoreEditor: Jim Beckmann kexp.orgdlo3music.com
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Khruangbin - Maria También (Live on KEXP)kexp.org presents Khruangbin performing "Maria También" live in the KEXP studio. Recorded April 26, 2018. Host: Cheryl WatersAudio Engineers: Tim Iseler & Kevin Suggs Cameras: Alaia D'Alessandro, Scott Holpainen & Justin WilmoreEditor: Justin Wilmore kexp.orgkhruangbin.com
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Dessa - Velodrome (Live on KEXP)kexp.org presents Dessa performing "Velodrome" live in the KEXP studio. Recorded April 27, 2018. Host: Kevin ColeAudio Engineer: Kevin SuggsCameras: Alaia D'Alessandro, Kendall Rock & Justin WilmoreEditor: Scott Holpainen kexp.orgdoomtree.net
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Paramore: Caught in the Middle [OFFICIAL VIDEO] We're doing it LIVE! Get your tickets to see Paramore on tour now with Foster The People at paramore.net Paramore's music video for 'Caught In The Middle' from the album, After Laughter - available now on Fueled By Ramen. ...
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