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Barefoot Grin  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:13:53pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:15:46pm
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JordanRules  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:15:55pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:16:36pm

Sadly, I keep 2 in my image library. Necessarily so.

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freetoken  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:19:32pm

One of my (probable) ancestors died in the French & Indian wars, what the Brits may call the Seven Years’ war. At least on this continent, it was the precursor to what happened in 1776.

Ignored by the faux-patriotism industry is the very real problem the colonists were making for the Native Americans living around the Appalachian mountains.

Part of the American revolutionary war was about colonists not wanting to be controlled in their land grab. This was part of the problem 20 years prior during the Seven Years’ war.

If I could (and I can’t because I’m not an independent observer) evaluate the American revolution from the outside, the overthrowing of a monarchy for a representative democracy was a big step forward. Yet at the same time, having land-grabbing colonists going hog-wild over the hills was a form of genocide.

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JordanRules  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:21:19pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:22:45pm

PWN3D

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gwangung  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:23:36pm

re: #3 JordanRules

Um, isn’t this a little late?

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JordanRules  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:24:14pm

re: #8 gwangung

Um, isn’t this a little late?

Yes.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:25:46pm
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freetoken  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:26:51pm

re: #9 JordanRules

Late in one sense, but given how easily people forget, especially since Trump throws out crap everyday, reminding everyone of the path that Trump takes is important.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:28:02pm

I’m trying to find versions of the National Anthem sung in other languages. Here is Spanish:

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A Cranky One  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:29:07pm

Mrs Cranky’s garden is putting on its annual pet friendly fireworks display.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:29:23pm

This Chinese version is just…. weird (to put it mildly)

American National Anthem in Chinese 美国国歌中文版

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:30:12pm
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gwangung  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:30:23pm

re: #11 freetoken

Late in one sense, but given how easily people forget, especially since Trump throws out crap everyday, reminding everyone of the path that Trump takes is important.

Well, yeah, but POCs and progressives have long memories of this. White folks in power better remember that.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:30:42pm

re: #13 A Cranky One

That is a beautiful display of flowers. :)

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unproven innocence  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:33:10pm

I have a vinyl magnet US flag on my car, inverted. Got it from a legit source— found on the street near my home. Had previously seen it (or one like it) attached to the vehicle of my US Mail carrier. It’s rather faded now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:34:04pm

dayum

The bourbon storage facility in Bardstown, Kentucky that partially collapsed on June 22 has now completely fallen, according to media reports.

Reporter Julie Dolan with WLKY in Louisville reported that the collapse of the rest of the facility at the Barton 1792 Distillery in occurred Wednesday afternoon.

“They don’t know if there was any more spill,” John Chaudoin, dispatcher for Nelson County Dispatch, told The Enquire’s sister publication the Courier-Journal on Wednesday. “They’re still evaluating.”

WLKY reported that the company was in the process of cleaning up when the other half collapsed today.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:34:47pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

dayum

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:36:34pm

re: #14 The Vicious Babushka

Well at least he passed on the bagpipes for the piece.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:37:04pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

dayum

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Oh, the humanity!

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:37:40pm

re: #21 Unshaken Defiance

Mmm. That might actually sound pretty good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:39:41pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:41:10pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

dayum

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Looks like the old wood construction couldn’t take all that weight anymore and just flat gave out.

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MsJ  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:43:53pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:44:00pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Quick…the H is getting away…but the US is hanging together while Os the T and N are undecided.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:44:41pm

re: #25 ObserverArt

We forget the reality of those years aging in the barrel. Gotta sit somewhere all that time.

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MsJ  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:44:48pm

re: #25 ObserverArt

Looks like the old wood construction couldn’t take all that weight anymore and just flat gave out.

Or the pending tariffs call for a little insurance fraud.

Just sayin’.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:48:39pm

re: #28 Unshaken Defiance

We forget the reality of those years aging in the barrel. Gotta sit somewhere all that time.

That’s true. My Laphroaig 10 and my Lagavulin 16 are just sitting around, waiting for me to buy them. :)

One of my co-workers came over, and when I offered a glass of the Lagavulin, she said, “Oh my God, you’re Ron Swanson!”

LOL.

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Sea Mexican!  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:50:22pm

Happy Independence Day, people!!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2018 • 12:50:35pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh the humanity.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 4, 2018 • 1:14:47pm

re: #31 Sea Mexican!
Maybe a bbq was a better plan
Reports of person climbing Statue of Liberty
abc7ny.com

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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2018 • 1:14:51pm
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Jay C  Jul 4, 2018 • 1:16:00pm

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

dayum

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You’d think that in Kentucky, there would be no lack of folks wanting to help “clean up” all that bourbon…
Or did they expect them to leave the barrels in place?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 4, 2018 • 1:16:24pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

Seeing that person there makes you realize just how big the Statue of Liberty really is.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 4, 2018 • 1:18:52pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

Red Hats infrastructure week.

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plansbandc  Jul 4, 2018 • 1:23:40pm

re: #36 Dr Lizardo

It is a truly majestic thing to see in person. I got choked up.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 4, 2018 • 1:28:14pm

re: #35 Jay C

You’d think that in Kentucky, there would be no lack of folks wanting to help “clean up” all that bourbon…
Or did they expect them to leave the barrels in place?

There will be no angels’ share.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 1:36:39pm

re: #34 Charles Johnson

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JordanRules  Jul 4, 2018 • 1:36:58pm
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unproven innocence  Jul 4, 2018 • 1:37:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 1:38:08pm
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Sea Mexican!  Jul 4, 2018 • 1:39:37pm

re: #33 Unshaken Defiance

Maybe a bbq was a better plan
Reports of person climbing Statue of Liberty
abc7ny.com

Not high enough for me.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 4, 2018 • 1:40:15pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2018 • 1:40:31pm

re: #39 Barefoot Grin

In Great Estates of Scotland the first episode Inveraray that phrase is mentioned. The Duke of Argyll is visiting Chivas Regal Distillery and he is with the master blender and that is when the phrase is uttered.

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ObserverArt  Jul 4, 2018 • 1:41:41pm

re: #41 JordanRules

Shawn in Az 🖖🏽🌵
@CaptainsLog2O18
Everybody before a Mueller interview: Witch hunt! Deep state is abusing power, DOJ is corrupt, DJT is innocent, what about Hillary?

After: Special Counsel is very professional, I have nothing but respect for Robert Mueller, they already know everything, this is not a witch hunt

3:56 PM - Jul 4, 2018

Obviously they are all undergoing deep state brain washing.

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Sea Mexican!  Jul 4, 2018 • 1:42:06pm

re: #42 unproven innocence

One only two…

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Video

Fascinating!

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2018 • 1:45:23pm

re: #47 ObserverArt

Perhaps they have seen reason and now know the truth.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 1:48:07pm

so, is the moron having his big military parade today?

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 4, 2018 • 1:52:40pm

re: #35 Jay C

You’d think that in Kentucky, there would be no lack of folks wanting to help “clean up” all that bourbon…
Or did they expect them to leave the barrels in place?

I’m on my way to lend a helping hand gallon jugs.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 4, 2018 • 1:53:05pm

Time to call it a day. Have fun, Lizards.

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Belafon  Jul 4, 2018 • 1:55:06pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 4, 2018 • 2:00:06pm

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

so, is the moron having his big military parade today?

Veterans day.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 4, 2018 • 2:01:11pm

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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2018 • 2:05:12pm
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lawhawk  Jul 4, 2018 • 2:08:26pm
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lawhawk  Jul 4, 2018 • 2:09:22pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2018 • 2:12:37pm
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ObserverArt  Jul 4, 2018 • 2:13:10pm

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

so, is the moron having his big military parade today?

That’s right after Infrastructure Week.

Everyone forgot about it anyway.

Too many real Trump horrors to deal with, you forget all the stupid stuff he has already said and done. It is just a constant flow of chaos under the guise of “I am like the smartest guy ever!”

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 4, 2018 • 2:15:54pm
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Jay C  Jul 4, 2018 • 2:18:04pm

re: #58 lawhawk

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I’m surprised the Moron-in-Chief didn’t include the usual Iran-bashing in this inane screed: IIRC, world oil markets edged up - among other reasons - in anticipation that the US is going to try to reduce Iranian oil exports to “zero” via an insanely restrictive sanctions regime*. Less Iranian oil on the market, of course, means less supply, therefore rising prices - mainly for the benefit of Trump’s BFFs, the Saudis, but that sort of basic economic principle is apparently beyond the capacity of The Donald’s pea-brain to grasp.

*good luck with that: I think China is Iran’s biggest oil customer under long-term purchase agreements: “zero” is probably the likelihood they’ll go along with The Idiot’s sanctions plan.

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lawhawk  Jul 4, 2018 • 2:23:31pm

re: #62 Jay C

No, that was yesterday’s flat out lie based on a single sourced Fox article with info from an Iranian hardliner that claimed the US granted citizenship to 2,500 Iranians as part of the JCPOA. Not a single word of the claim is accurate.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2018 • 2:28:27pm

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But most importantly
He looks like a tiny sausage snac
Just playing with Ozzy. He likes the interaction. Disclaimer: A weasel is not a pet. They hate being locked up, they’re not friendly when hungry. Don’t get one. Seriously. Ozzy is a special case rescue baby. Cute, but deadly. ;
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unproven innocence  Jul 4, 2018 • 2:28:29pm

re: #63 lawhawk

One of the under-appreciated points of logic: From false assumptions, any conclusion is possible.

This why truth matters.

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JordanRules  Jul 4, 2018 • 2:29:04pm

re: #43 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Missed this part eh CNN?

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Jay C  Jul 4, 2018 • 2:31:38pm

re: #63 lawhawk

No, that was yesterday’s flat out lie based on a single sourced Fox article with info from an Iranian hardliner that claimed the US granted citizenship to 2,500 Iranians as part of the JCPOA. Not a single word of the claim is accurate.

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No, I wasn’t referring to that: though thanks for the sourcing of that particular pile of bovine excrement: I was thinking of something I had read on a FP blog that the Trump Admin was readying plans to impose a strict, and worldwide, sanctions regime on Iran, focusing on (but not limited to) its oil exports: basically the usual Trumpian threats of severe sanctions and tariffs on any foreign government or business that does any sort of business with or in Iran of any kind. It’s not new, of course, I think they’ve been hawking this plan for a while: but the piece I read seemed to suggest that the idiots are actually planning to try to go through with it. And soon.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 4, 2018 • 2:35:57pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

Where the Can’t Even chart? This tweet is seriously unhinged. No grasp, at all, of how anything work anywhere. I need some adjectives, but nowhere to put them.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 4, 2018 • 2:47:47pm

Someone just became toxic…….

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HappyWarrior  Jul 4, 2018 • 2:49:43pm

re: #70 Dave In Austin

Someone just became toxic…….

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Sigh. I really really want to give her a chance but she’s showing herself to align herself with some bad actors.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 4, 2018 • 2:50:39pm

Conservative ethics.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 4, 2018 • 2:51:27pm

re: #72 Single-handed sailor

I hate that smug motherfucker.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 4, 2018 • 2:52:41pm

re: #73 Ace Rothstein

I hate that smug motherfucker.

I never thought you could do worse than Sessions. Pruitt pr-ooved me wrong.

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Skip Intro  Jul 4, 2018 • 2:56:05pm

re: #70 Dave In Austin

She’s fucking up bigly. Too much, too soon I guess.

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austin_blue  Jul 4, 2018 • 2:56:34pm

re: #73 Ace Rothstein

I hate that smug motherfucker.

Hell, Laura fucking Ingraham hates that smug motherfucker. It’s a really big club at this point.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:01:01pm

re: #76 austin_blue

Hell, Laura fucking Ingraham hates that smug motherfucker. It’s a really big club at this point.

Only because he’s the face of why drain the swamp is a sham. If he did it discreetly, she wouldn’t care.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:01:03pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:04:37pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

That’s the whole point. You can do it, just don’t get caught doing it.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:06:02pm

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

so, is the moron having his big military parade today?

re: #54 Unshaken Defiance

Veterans day.

Nov. 10th.
Veterans Day is on a Sunday this year, so.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:06:36pm

re: #69 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Where the Can’t Even chart? This tweet is seriously unhinged. No grasp, at all, of how anything work anywhere. I need some adjectives, but nowhere to put them.

Yeah, he doesn’t know how any of this works. He’s just putting on a show for his cult.

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austin_blue  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:08:41pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Only because he’s the face of why drain the swamp is a sham. If he did it discreetly, she wouldn’t care.

I don’t know, Happy. I think Fatboy likes to keep Prunepit around to make Fatboy look like a paragon of ethical behavior in comparison. Best wingman evah!!!

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Skip Intro  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:10:01pm

re: #80 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

He only plays his act to his idiot supporters and the military. Nobody else exists, except as The Enemy.

Someone else in history did this too.

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:11:11pm

My power might get knocked out and it’ll be out for I don’t know how long. Fuck!

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:12:36pm

The valley is so choked with smoke right now from that fire I saw last night. I don’t think it’s safe to go outside, looks like the industrial areas of China.

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MsJ  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:13:11pm

re: #69 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Where the Can’t Even chart? This tweet is seriously unhinged. No grasp, at all, of how anything work anywhere. I need some adjectives, but nowhere to put them.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:13:53pm

re: #61 Single-handed sailor

OK, gotta think they stumbled on a spot where the agent was originally prepped for final delivery, or residue was discarded post delivery.
Or, the Russians chose to contaminate some random people to prove the original contamination wasn’t a targeted attack against Putin opponents.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:15:43pm

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:16:00pm

re: #87 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Or random and deliberate terror. Power play with us in their pocket.

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austin_blue  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:17:17pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

My power might get knocked out and it’ll be out for I don’t know how long. Fuck!

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Pro tip:

If you have to bug out, put everything in the freezer and fridge you can fit in a cooler and take it with. Remove whatever is left and throw it outside.

Otherwise, if the power does go and you’re gone more than three days, you will NEVER get that stink out of the Fridge and will end up buying a new one.

Lesson from Katrina played out thousands of times in NO.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:20:16pm

Kremlin trolls are out in force on the novichok story.
Funny, 75 years ago fascists were terrified of the Russian front. Now they are the Russian front.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:22:12pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

That’s all beetle killed pine correct?

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:22:35pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:25:47pm

re: #92 Dave In Austin

That’s all beetle killed pine correct?

No. Pinyon and Juniper, mostly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:27:16pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:30:35pm

Contains content some may find disturbing.

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:35:18pm

And the sheriff’s office has issued an air quality alert. Stay indoors with windows closed. It’s 90° with a dew point of 19°.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:35:35pm

BBC:
Wiltshire pair ‘poisoned by nerve agent

The Kremlin has responded with an emergency deployment of trolls and conspira-liars. All leaves are canceled and reservists are being summoned from the Alex Jones volunteer brigade and the retro-red retired list.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:38:00pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:38:30pm
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Jay C  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:42:55pm

re: #98 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

BBC:
Wiltshire pair ‘poisoned by nerve agent

The Kremlin has responded with an emergency deployment of trolls and conspira-liars. All leaves are canceled and reservists are being summoned from the Alex Jones volunteer brigade and the retro-red retired list.

Oh, so that’s why the start of the Second Civil War didn’t go down today?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:46:36pm

On a lighter note
New York Mets fans invade Toronto

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:47:34pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:47:43pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:54:43pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:56:20pm

A man and a woman from El Jebel are facing an initial charge of fourth-degree arson for allegedly starting the Lake Christine Fire by firing tracer rounds Tuesday evening at the Basalt shooting range, according to the Eagle County Sheriff’s Office.

Other charges may be filed against Richard Karl Miller, 23, and Allison Sarah Marcus, 22, after the investigation is concluded, according to Amber Barrett, a spokeswoman for the sheriff’s office. Both suspects live at the same address in El Jebel, Barrett said.

[…]

They could be potentially responsible for restitution for the firefighting effort up to $1 million, Barrett said.

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Jay C  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:56:53pm

re: #104 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Yeah, that deputy’s face says it all (and from all reports, he wasn’t having any bullshit that day, TYVM). But even so, it’s still a reminder that Existing While Black is still a potentially dangerous activity in this country. The sitch in Clackamas worked out OK, but it’s unfortunately easy to imagine a less-benign scenario playing out elsewhere.

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 3:58:42pm

That… doesn’t look good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:02:56pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:04:28pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:07:05pm

It’s now 81 here in Los Angeles. Looks like we will be around 84 tomorrow and then it jumps to 100 on Friday, 102 on Saturday and 93 on Monday the 89 on Tuesday.

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austin_blue  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:08:53pm

re: #105 Single-handed sailor

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Surf’s up, dude!

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freetoken  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:10:11pm

re: #111 Joe Bacon 🌹

The loquat trees down here are suffering. All the trees are suffering. This past winter we got less rain than you did up there.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:10:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:12:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:14:08pm
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Cheechako  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:14:17pm

re: #111 Joe Bacon 🌹

It’s now 81 here in Los Angeles. Looks like we will be around 84 tomorrow and then it jumps to 100 on Friday, 102 on Saturday and 93 on Monday the 89 on Tuesday.

Currently 82 with 34% RH in Juneau….finally!!!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:15:40pm

Evening Lizardim. Happy Independence Day from the extremely humid wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk on this high summer holiday?

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wheat-dogg  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:15:46pm

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dayum! Maybe I’ll just stay in China.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:16:00pm

Philly’s Forecast: weather.gov

Incoming thundershowers.

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Skip Intro  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:22:20pm

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:24:25pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:27:48pm

re: #117 Cheechako

Currently 82 with 34% RH in Juneau….finally!!!

So we’ll be going someplace warm then? It’s 80F here and 54% humidity.

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Cheechako  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:30:42pm

re: #123 Anymouse 🌹

So we’ll be going someplace warm then? It’s 80F here and 54% humidity.

I strongly expect this to be temporary.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:35:47pm

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:36:44pm

re: #112 austin_blue

Surf’s up, dude!

I think the Silver Surfer might even pass up on that ride

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:37:40pm

re: #125 Ace Rothstein

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:38:20pm

re: #125 Ace Rothstein

I love the wrinkly neck and T-Rex hands.

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:39:43pm

It was 300 acres at 11 a.m. today.

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:43:38pm

Yup, that’s all wildfire smoke.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:43:41pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:44:34pm

re: #129 teleskiguy

It was 300 acres at 11 a.m. today.

Wow, there are a bunch of fires in your state.

denverpost.com

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:46:53pm

Smoke is showing up on radar.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:48:05pm

re: #130 teleskiguy

I’m sorry we clashed the other night. I hope we are good.

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:48:51pm

re: #134 Unshaken Defiance

That was a fucked up day and night for most of us. I’m sorry, too.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:54:51pm

Okay well whew. Here at RWC HQ we have HEPA air filters in 2 rooms because the wife has asthma. If you can get one of those for your bedroom you might be more comfortable and healthier. Our wildfires make the lungs ache, sure yours do the same.

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sagehen  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:55:59pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Are any of those Senators in Russia up for re-election this year?

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Teukka  Jul 4, 2018 • 4:58:33pm

re: #136 Unshaken Defiance

Okay well whew. Here at RWC HQ we have HEPA air filters in 2 rooms because the wife has asthma. If you can get one of those for your bedroom you might be more comfortable and healthier. Our wildfires make the lungs ache, sure yours do the same.

Another idea is an electrostatic air cleaner. Not as expensive in terms of consumables. However, downside is some O3.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:00:28pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:02:51pm
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:08:01pm

re: #111 Joe Bacon 🌹

It’s now 81 here in Los Angeles. Looks like we will be around 84 tomorrow and then it jumps to 100 on Friday, 102 on Saturday and 93 on Monday the 89 on Tuesday.

Clear skies where I am, weather in the 60’s. Will reach high 70’s by the weekend. (Why I don’t talk much about the weather, and rarely feel entitled to complain.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:09:37pm

re: #137 sagehen

Are any of those Senators in Russia up for re-election this year?

I don’t know

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:12:32pm

re: #137 sagehen

Are any of those Senators in Russia up for re-election this year?

I told Mrs. Fish about this and she said, “Do these people not realize how incredibly bad this looks?” My only response was, “No, they don’t, and they wouldn’t care if they did.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:13:46pm
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A Mom Anon  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:14:51pm

Shit. There’s a strip mall near me with a big grocery store that I’ve shopped at for over 20 yrs. Other businesses all have come and gone, like a blockbuster store, martial arts school, hair and nail salon, etc. but the grocery store has been the constant. There’s been a unit empty in this little strip mall for over a year now and it looks like a “crisis pregnancy center” is going in. We already have one about 3 miles away in the other direction. I’ll be watching this closely…. I may need to go to Planned Parenthood and get some literature to hand out in front of the place. God I wish I could move away from this parade of idiots.

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JordanRules  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:15:03pm

re: #70 Dave In Austin

Someone just became toxic…….

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She, not surprisingly, campaigned for her. This is an old pic.
Eric Garner is still cool with Louise Mensch sooo…
I also just found out he has me blocked. LOL

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Dave In Austin  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:15:09pm

re: #133 teleskiguy

Smoke is showing up on radar.

You alright??

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:16:36pm

re: #147 Dave In Austin

You alright??

*cough* *hack*

No fires near me, just a lot of smoke. Next valley over is getting fucked.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:17:19pm

re: #139 Single-handed sailor

Scott Strazzante is an amazing PhoJo, and his blog is the shizz.
shootingfromthehip.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:18:07pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:18:22pm

As a reminder, fireworks contain chemtrails to make you gay.
liberaldarkness.com

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:19:08pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

Again, I hate that smug motherfucker.

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PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:19:13pm

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹

rofl. They are shooting off the stuff on my block.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:20:17pm

re: #148 teleskiguy

*cough* *hack*

No fires near me, just a lot of smoke. Next valley over is getting fucked.

Well, I don’t have to tell you how that can change. Living in a tinder box is not unfamiliar to me. Just concerned. And concerned for the state. A BIG one is due. Especially with all that standing deadwood.

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Jay C  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:21:04pm

re: #137 sagehen

Are any of those Senators in Russia up for re-election this year?

No. Not a one.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:21:18pm

Also, and I hope this doesn’t piss anyone off, but is it just me or is anyone else sick of country music being the ONLY american music that matters? I hate it. I cannot stand 99 percent of this crap. Chris Stapleton is cool, maybe a couple others, but what about American rock bands? Why are there little if any 4th of July celebrations featuring rock and roll? We have some pretty good bands from the US, what the hell?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:21:21pm

I’m starting more and more to think Pruitt will be gone by years end.

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calochortus  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:21:34pm

I don’t know what the temperature is here because it’s the kind of day when you don’t bother to look. Mid 70°s I think. Windows open, breezes blowing through… Don’t worry, they’re calling for low 90°s over the weekend so this won’t last. I’m taking advantage of all the open window weather by doing some interior painting. Not everything in the house, mostly just the doors and trim to brighten them up since I haven’t painted in over a decade.
I think I’m getting to old for consecutive days of painting. I have too many sore muscles at this point.

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calochortus  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:23:38pm

re: #157 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m starting more and more to think Pruitt will be gone by years end.

As I understand it, the administration may have trouble confirming a replacement who will do as much damage as Pruitt is doing. So they want to stick with him as long as possible.

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Jay C  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:24:14pm

re: #157 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m starting more and more to think Pruitt will be gone by years month’s end.

It should be “week’s end”, but there’s this holiday schedule……

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Chrysicat  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:25:22pm

re: #157 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m starting more and more to think Pruitt will be gone by years end.

It’s possible, but somewhere upthread it was mentioned that Trump can fire Sessions and install anyone else who cleared Senate approval for 200 days before they need to be approved again.

And that Pruitt somehow still has his law license. Moving him to (in)Justice to fire Rosenstein and Mueller, and establish it as Trump’s personal army, is not out of character for him, just a sign of a lack of character :-(

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:26:26pm

re: #157 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m starting more and more to think Pruitt will be gone by years end.

He’s not going anywhere except to the Justice Department. Just watch.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:27:11pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

@speechboy71
It was a free meal … of course he showed up

After the news of Pruitt’s constant dining in the White House mess because of the discount prices I’ve always picture him as that guy filling his pockets with sugar packets at the local diners

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calochortus  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:27:35pm

re: #161 Chrysicat

re: #162 Ace Rothstein

He apparently floated the idea to the White House, but they didn’t take him up on it. Honestly, I think that might not work out well for the administration and they might just be smart enough to see that.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:28:02pm

re: #164 calochortus

He apparently floated the idea to the White House, but they didn’t take him up on it.

Yet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:28:06pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:28:40pm

re: #163 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

And the black pepper grinders and silverware.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:31:22pm

talkingpointsmemo.com

Illinois Governor refuses to endorse Democrat, urges Nazi to drop out of the race instead.

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Teukka  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:32:26pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:33:09pm

re: #168 Anymouse 🌹

I will take your word for it. I clicked on the link and got too many pop-ups.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:33:53pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:34:44pm

re: #167 Ace Rothstein

And the black pepper grinders and silverware.

Towels from hotels

(though, I will admit I did this at the Hilton in Panama City, Panama. After the charge me $10 for a waffle that they had sliced in half, like a bun)

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:35:10pm

JFC, these people are a threat to the country.
newyorker.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:35:24pm

re: #165 Ace Rothstein

Yet.

Yep. Just wait until Trump gets more desperate.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:36:01pm

And in other news, our county Democrats had a float in today’s county seat parade that was a sled with snowflakes all over it. Heh.

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Teukka  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:36:08pm

re: #169 Teukka

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To elaborate on JMS’s hunches:

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:36:58pm

RE: Pruitt at the WH BBQ.

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Jay C  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:37:38pm

re: #137 sagehen

ADD: A quick scan through the Senate wiki shows (AFAICT), the only Senate Republicans running for reelection this year are:

Barasso (WY)
Cruz (TX)
Heller (NV)
Fischer (NE)
Wicker (MS)
and whoever/whatever’s going on with the second Mississippi seat
(Cochran’s replacement Cindy Hyde-Smith - no idea if she’s running)
Flake (AZ) bailed, and Corker (TN) and Hatch (UT) are retiring

ETA: Hyde-Smith is running in the next election to serve the remainder of Cochran’s tern (up in 2020)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:39:33pm

re: #171 The Vicious Babushka

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He’s called Jews who have criticized him far worse. I’m sorry but fuck Ben Shapiro. He doesn’t deserve anti Semitic harassment but he deserves no respect.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:39:34pm

re: #172 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

$10? For HALF a waffle? Holy hell.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:40:16pm

re: #177 Ace Rothstein

RE: Pruitt at the WH BBQ.

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I didn’t know they had turkeys at the WH BBQ.//

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Jay C  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:42:09pm

re: #181 HappyWarrior

I didn’t know they had turkeys at the WH BBQ.//

No: just pigs.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:43:57pm

re: #182 Jay C

No: just pigs.

Ha! Well that actually makes sense.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:44:41pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:44:57pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:45:50pm

re: #185 Patricia Kayden

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This is some fucked up bs. But yeah start with Melania and Mary Macleod Trump.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:46:33pm

re: #185 Patricia Kayden

I have to ask: What is the legal process by which one’s citizenship can be revoked? I’m honestly curious.

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fern01  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:46:57pm

re: #72 Single-handed sailor

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Conservative ethics.

100% contradiction in terms. Yet they still get elected.

If democrats did 1% of this sh!t - the media and the GOP would be calling for their heads.

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Teukka  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:46:58pm

re: #185 Patricia Kayden

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Major-league Nuremberg Laws vibes…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:47:25pm

re: #189 Teukka

Major-league Nuremberg Laws vibes…

You ain’t kidding.

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calochortus  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:47:45pm

re: #185 Patricia Kayden

I believe the last time the government looked at “de-naturalizing” people was in the McCarthy era, so we shouldn’t be surprised it has come up at this point.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:47:59pm

re: #187 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I have to ask: What is the legal process by which one’s citizenship can be revoked? I’m honestly curious.

I found this: findlaw.com

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gwangung  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:48:21pm

re: #187 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I have to ask: What is the legal process by which one’s citizenship can be revoked? I’m honestly curious.

If a search turns up errors, or inconsistencies they are often treated as lies, whether or not they are material to their claims.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:48:29pm

Up for a moment of green? The wifes new greenhouse is done and is blooming orchids like crazy. It’s called “The Cathouse” as it’s all set up for orchid Catasetum intergenerics & Cattleya species. Eventually it goes online live webcam IOT climate controllers and a weather station in and outside.

The Cathouse
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HappyWarrior  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:49:34pm

re: #187 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I have to ask: What is the legal process by which one’s citizenship can be revoked? I’m honestly curious.

I’d check but I’m on holiday not paralegal time right now. Remind me tomorrow. I’ll look at it.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:49:36pm

Respect to all who have served or are serving in our military—I don’t think it mutually exclusive to suggest that every once in awhile the 4th speeches also say “thank you” to the brave men and women who have worked hard to try to keep us out of needless wars.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:49:56pm

re: #187 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

This is from the government: uscis.gov

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HappyWarrior  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:51:20pm

re: #196 Barefoot Grin

Respect to all who have served or are serving in our military—I don’t think it mutually exclusive to suggest that every once in awhile the 4th speeches also say “thank you” to the brave men and women who have worked hard to try to keep us out of needless wars.

Not at all. Diplomats serve their country too and risk their lives as well.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:51:28pm

re: #191 calochortus

I believe the last time the government looked at “de-naturalizing” people was in the McCarthy era, so we shouldn’t be surprised it has come up at this point.

And yet conservative voters will tell us “I didn’t move, the Republican Party did.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:51:35pm

re: #193 gwangung

If a search turns up errors, or inconsistencies they are often treated as lies, whether or not they are material to their claims.

That’s exactly what scared me when I read through that Findlaw article. They will comb through the minutiae, find some inconsistency, and file the denaturalization proceedings based on that.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:52:19pm

re: #200 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And make no mistake, if they so much find a spelling error, out you go.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:52:35pm

re: #200 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

That’s exactly what scared me when I read through that Findlaw article. They will comb through the minutiae, find some inconsistency, and file the denaturalization proceedings based on that.

And you know this administration, they’re going to target people from certain places.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:52:54pm

re: #198 HappyWarrior

Not at all. Diplomats serve their country too and risk their lives as well.

Exactly. My wife was wondering why every speech is focused solely on military and veterans. We have days for that, too.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:53:02pm

re: #201 Ace Rothstein

And make no mistake, if they so much find a spelling error, out you go.

It’s like you read my mind.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:53:22pm

re: #204 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Because I did…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:53:41pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:53:51pm

re: #180 Eclectic Cyborg

$10? For HALF a waffle? Holy hell.

And, that was in 1985

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HappyWarrior  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:54:18pm

re: #203 Barefoot Grin

Exactly. My wife was wondering why every speech is focused solely on military and veterans. We have days for that, too.

I respect our military. My grandfather and most of my grand uncles were vets but I agree. I think we should thank other groups too. We can respect the military without coming off as glamorizing war.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:54:28pm

re: #205 Ace Rothstein

Because I did…

Tell the other voices to quiet down. I’m having the devil’s own day over here.

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:54:49pm

“A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if the person becomes a member of, or affiliated with, the Communist party, other totalitarian party, or terrorist organization within five years of his or her naturalization.”

But after five years, you good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:55:37pm

re: #187 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I have to ask: What is the legal process by which one’s citizenship can be revoked? I’m honestly curious.

As I understand it, it’s based on the assumption that Nazis lied on their application so the task force is going to use that rule as a starting point.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:56:58pm

re: #198 HappyWarrior

Not at all. Diplomats serve their country too and risk their lives as well.

Yes they do and it’s tragic the first thing people think of Benghazi is not respect for those that lost their lives. (I could so all cap that lol)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:57:45pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bahahahaha! I love epic Twitter Smackdowns like that!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:59:02pm

re: #212 Unshaken Defiance

Yes they do and it’s tragic the first thing people think of Benghazi is not respect for those that lost their lives. (I could so all cap that lol)

I applied for the foreign service. Didn’t get it. Those men and women are often forgotten. And it’s a shame because their efforts help make those of us who travel, they make it easier.

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calochortus  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:59:13pm

re: #213 Eclectic Cyborg

Bahahahaha! I love epic Twitter Smackdowns like that!

Don’t we all?

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calochortus  Jul 4, 2018 • 5:59:45pm

Dinner time. BBL

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 6:04:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 6:09:22pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 4, 2018 • 6:19:11pm

Great, after just seeing Clara Oswald make an appearance in Captain America: The First Avenger I’m going to have to keep re-watching it to find the Doctor

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Chrysicat  Jul 4, 2018 • 6:20:25pm

re: #219 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Not even just the actress?

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 4, 2018 • 6:22:56pm

Fearless leader comments accurately on James Woods:

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 4, 2018 • 6:23:46pm

Dumbasses, they’re everywhere.

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Chrysicat  Jul 4, 2018 • 6:24:37pm
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Belafon  Jul 4, 2018 • 6:28:46pm

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

I won’t show that to my family, but that is awesome.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 4, 2018 • 6:30:46pm

This is the fucking problem with liberals: “It has to be sliced to be pure.” “Yes, but the slices squirt out the sides on the first bite.” “Learn to eat, dude.”

No.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 4, 2018 • 6:32:57pm

less than 15 minutes until the fireworks

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Chrysicat  Jul 4, 2018 • 6:34:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 6:36:38pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 4, 2018 • 6:36:48pm

re: #226 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

less than 15 minutes until the fireworks

Just started here. We don’t have a dog yet. And we live near a firing range for local police. But it’s still a bit jarring. (this is all local individual citizen stuff as many things like re-loadable mortars were made legal this year.)

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MsJ  Jul 4, 2018 • 6:38:46pm

re: #146 JordanRules

She, not surprisingly, campaigned for her. This is an old pic.
Eric Garner is still cool with Louise Mensch sooo…
I also just found out he has me blocked. LOL

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 4, 2018 • 6:38:56pm

re: #106 teleskiguy

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Honestly how is tracer ammunition even legal in a tinderbox like Colorado? That shit’s been banned in California for as long as I can remember.

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VaughnIAM  Jul 4, 2018 • 6:44:20pm

re: #187 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I have to ask: What is the legal process by which one’s citizenship can be revoked? I’m honestly curious.

Google: Divna Maslenjak
Supreme Court just ruled unanimously in her favor in a case where her citizenship was revoked because she lied on her application. Ruling was in Jan. 2017.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 6:45:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 4, 2018 • 6:46:18pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jul 4, 2018 • 6:52:01pm

re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So when is he stepping down?

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Ace Rothstein  Jul 4, 2018 • 6:54:50pm

re: #235 Patricia Kayden

So when is he stepping down?

LOL, yeah right.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 4, 2018 • 6:55:42pm

re: #70 Dave In Austin

Someone just became toxic…….

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Until Susan apologizes for her horrid (and untrue) diatribe against Secretary Clinton, I don’t want to see or hear from her. She really has some nerve!

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 6:59:35pm

re: #231 goddamnedfrank

Honestly how is tracer ammunition even legal in a tinderbox like Colorado? That shit’s been banned in California for as long as I can remember.

It’s illegal year round to fire tracer rounds in Colorado, has been for some time. And under Stage 2 fire restrictions, firing weapons *at all* on public lands is prohibited.

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Skip Intro  Jul 4, 2018 • 7:01:32pm

Republicans can’t even condemn self proclaimed Nazis running in their state.

“Illinois governor breaks with Cruz over Nazi candidate”

“Illinois Gov. Bruce Rauner refused to follow Texas GOP Sen. Ted Cruz’s lead and call on voters of a Chicago-area congressional district to back a Democrat over a declared Nazi candidate in November.”

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 7:04:08pm

That fire I’ve been posting about, which is about 20 miles to the south of my twenty, is expected to burn for several weeks.

*sigh*

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Belafon  Jul 4, 2018 • 7:05:48pm

re: #70 Dave In Austin

Someone just became toxic…….

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I don’t care about Sarandon enough to be phased by her in the picture. I don’t think we’re going to have to worry about AOC voting wildly on many pieces of legislation. The voters in her district knew who she was, they knew she was a Bernie supporter. And for all his faults, Sanders doesn’t wonder from the Democratic position all that often.

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Belafon  Jul 4, 2018 • 7:06:53pm

re: #239 Winston_Smith

Republicans can’t even condemn self proclaimed Nazis running in their state.

“Illinois governor breaks with Cruz over Nazi candidate”

“Illinois Gov. Bruce Rauner refused to follow Texas GOP Sen. Ted Cruz’s lead and call on voters of a Chicago-area congressional district to back a Democrat over a declared Nazi candidate in November.”

When Ted Cruz is holding higher ground than you…

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Jul 4, 2018 • 7:08:48pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Oh the humanity.

You rang? :)

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 4, 2018 • 7:09:32pm

Dodger pitcher Rich Hill thrown out at home after miraculous advance from bunt

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 7:11:33pm

I talked to my power company, they said I should be safe from outages should the transmission lines in the Lake Christine Fire fail as we have a generating station in town, and I was all like, “Oh yeah, I forgot, we have a power plant in town, pumping juice right into the power lines that are connected to my house!”

It’s a biomass plant built about six years ago, produces 10 kw annually.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 4, 2018 • 7:13:58pm

re: #229 Barefoot Grin

Just started here. We don’t have a dog yet. And we live near a firing range for local police. But it’s still a bit jarring. (this is all local individual citizen stuff as many things like re-loadable mortars were made legal this year.)

The city’s fireworks show is so far away we can’t even hear it, and seemed a bit less dynamic this year (already over). But, the localized fireworks seems to have begun in earnest. hadn’t been much all day, compared to the last couple years, so was hoping

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Cheechako  Jul 4, 2018 • 7:15:09pm

re: #245 teleskiguy

10 kw is not going to keep many air conditioners running…be prepared.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 4, 2018 • 7:16:24pm

I hear fireworks everywhere but when I look out the window they’re all behind the trees.

Oh well at least WE HAVE THE TREES.

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 7:17:30pm

re: #247 Cheechako

10 kw is not going to keep many air conditioners running…be prepared.

Hardly anyone around here has air conditioning, I certainly don’t. Lots of fans, though.

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calochortus  Jul 4, 2018 • 7:19:35pm

re: #248 The Vicious Babushka

I hear fireworks everywhere but when I look out the window they’re all behind the trees.

Oh well at least WE HAVE THE TREES.

Until the fireworks land in them anyway.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 4, 2018 • 7:20:11pm

re: #245 teleskiguy

You mean 10 Megawatt. 10kw is the fire powering a typical computer rack in a data center. ;0)

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Stanley Sea  Jul 4, 2018 • 7:26:04pm

I typed the longest comment on my trip, but because phone poof.

Great trip, wish you were here.

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 4, 2018 • 7:26:49pm

re: #232 VaughnIAM

I have to ask: What is the legal process by which one’s citizenship can be revoked? I’m honestly curious.

Google: Divna Maslenjak
Supreme Court just ruled unanimously in her favor in a case where her citizenship was revoked because she lied on her application. Ruling was in Jan. 2017.

The process was carried out under US Code Title 18 Section 1425:

(a) Whoever knowingly procures or attempts to procure, contrary to law, the naturalization of any person, or documentary or other evidence of naturalization or of citizenship; or

(b) Whoever, whether for himself or another person not entitled thereto, knowingly issues, procures or obtains or applies for or otherwise attempts to procure or obtain naturalization, or citizenship, or a declaration of intention to become a citizen, or a certificate of arrival or any certificate or evidence of nationalization or citizenship, documentary or otherwise, or duplicates or copies of any of the foregoing—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 25 years (if the offense was committed to facilitate an act of international terrorism (as defined in section 2331 of this title)), 20 years (if the offense was committed to facilitate a drug trafficking crime (as defined in section 929(a) of this title)), 10 years (in the case of the first or second such offense, if the offense was not committed to facilitate such an act of international terrorism or a drug trafficking crime), or 15 years (in the case of any other offense), or both.

The problem SCOTUS had with Maslenjak’s conviction was that the jury was told that any false statement during the naturalization process was enough to convict her. She lied in her asylum request and said her husband was not in the Serbian armed forces when in fact she was aware that he had been in a Serbian militia that was accused of war crimes. SCOTUS ruled that the false statement had to be material and the erroneous jury instruction prevented it from reaching that necessary finding of fact. Therefore SCOTUS vacated the conviction and sent the case back for a retrial by a new jury.

After the Maslenjak case USCIS has updated its website to reflect this legal ruling:

1. Concealment of Material Fact or Willful Misrepresentation

A person is subject to revocation of naturalization if there is deliberate deceit on the part of the person in misrepresenting or failing to disclose a material fact or facts on his or her naturalization application and subsequent examination. In general, a person is subject to revocation of naturalization on this basis if:

•The naturalized U.S. citizen misrepresented or concealed some fact;

•The misrepresentation or concealment was willful;

•The misrepresented or concealed fact or facts were material; and

•The naturalized U.S. citizen procured citizenship as a result of the misrepresentation or concealment. [4]

Now the Maslenjak case was initially prosecuted by Obama’s DOJ, but I think the point of what Trump’s doing with this new advertised push to look for more denaturalization cases is to further the broad suspicion of immigrants in general and to create the moral panic that allows for a policy crack down on the creation of new (mostly non-white) citizens. If they can get some people’s citizenships revoked so much the better from their point of view, but the real goal here is to sow doubt over the validity of any immigrant’s identity as an American and to further rile up Trump’s white nationalist base.

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Interesting Times  Jul 4, 2018 • 7:28:23pm

Perspective:

Facebook Post

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HappyWarrior  Jul 4, 2018 • 7:29:20pm

re: #239 Winston_Smith

Republicans can’t even condemn self proclaimed Nazis running in their state.

“Illinois governor breaks with Cruz over Nazi candidate”

“Illinois Gov. Bruce Rauner refused to follow Texas GOP Sen. Ted Cruz’s lead and call on voters of a Chicago-area congressional district to back a Democrat over a declared Nazi candidate in November.”

When Ted Cruz acts like the better person.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 4, 2018 • 7:43:35pm

re: #254 Interesting Times

Why no colonist?

257
Anymouse 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 7:44:52pm

Juanita Jean weighs in on the Second Civil War letters hashtag.

(she has more after this)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 7:46:20pm

re: #253 goddamnedfrank

Then toss in a few white people to get it past the courts (similar to tossing in Venezuela to get the Muslim ban through). Probably a lot of focus on the period 2009-2017 (Obama).

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BeachDem  Jul 4, 2018 • 7:48:49pm

re: #221 Barefoot Grin

Fearless leader comments accurately on James Woods:

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Heh

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 4, 2018 • 7:51:07pm

re: #258 Anymouse 🌹

Then toss in a few white people to get it past the courts (similar to tossing in Venezuela to get the Muslim ban through). Probably a lot of focus on the period 2009-2017 (Obama).

Ahhhhhh, so that’s how they got away with it. “It’s not just brown people, therefore not racism.” The conniving motherfuckers.

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Chrysicat  Jul 4, 2018 • 7:54:45pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 7:59:08pm
Sid’s [Miller, Texas Ag Commissioner] latest crusade? BBQ joints. Sid, as the self-appointed arbiter of everything animal protein, has decided to defy state law and the governor’s directives to go after…wait for it…your neighborhood BBQ spot. That’s right, even though the state of Texas has exempted small BBQ places from paying big bucks to certify their scales to weigh BBQ, ol’ Jesus Shot Sid himself has decided that, uncharacteristically, he is the Righteous Protector of BBQ Consumers, prosecuting independent pitmasters over a bullshit rule that he invented for some unknown reason, beyond being able to put his name on some Texas state certification sticker. You do know that he’s printed stickers to put his name on every gas pump in Texas, right?

The only good news here is that Deep Fryer Sid is being opposed by an actual adult in the 2018 race. Kim Olson, retired Air Force officer, farmer, and Normal Person, is aggressively campaigning to retire him back to the ranch. We say, come on, Kim!

(more at juanitajean.com)

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BeachDem  Jul 4, 2018 • 8:01:32pm

re: #248 The Vicious Babushka

I hear fireworks everywhere but when I look out the window they’re all behind the trees.

Oh well at least WE HAVE THE TREES.

The fools around here have been setting them off since early last night. Right now, it sounds like somebody throwing hammers at the doors in my courtyard. I don’t even want to know which idiots are doing it, as it will just make me crazier than I already am.

264
MsJ  Jul 4, 2018 • 8:01:33pm
265
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 4, 2018 • 8:02:39pm

Happy Independence Day

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HappyWarrior  Jul 4, 2018 • 8:05:19pm

re: #265 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Happy Independence Day

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FFS why. Because we’re not seen with enough skepticism there. If he did that, he would have rallied people around Maduro like Hitler’s invasion united people behind Stalin. The old he’s our sob adage.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 8:12:23pm

The sun is now down here, and the fireworks are going up. Fortunately, unlike Teleskiguy a couple hundred miles from us, we’ve had tons of rain so the chance of starting a prairie fire isn’t very high.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jul 4, 2018 • 8:13:43pm

re: #267 Anymouse 🌹

The sun is now down here, and the fireworks are going up. Fortunately, unlike Teleskiguy a couple hundred miles from us, we’ve had tons of rain so the chance of starting a prairie fire isn’t very high.

Same here in the wild north country. In fact, it was raining earlier today. The rivers are in flood (probably the latest they’ve been breaking their banks, but I’d have to check) and we are in possibly the least danger we’ve been in years.

269
Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jul 4, 2018 • 8:14:19pm

re: #261 Chrysicat

And whose bright idea was it to celebrate a day in #highsummer with fireworks?!?

That would be John Adams’ idea.

270
Anymouse 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 8:19:35pm

Chicago Cubs news:

After a single, Javier Baez has an unorthodox trip around the bases, including a steal and an error, culminating in a stunning steal of home

mlb.com (with video of his trip around the bases - Chicago won).

271
Lidane  Jul 4, 2018 • 8:32:03pm

Hmmm….

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MsJ  Jul 4, 2018 • 8:37:13pm

Thread.

273
Flying Squirrel Girl  Jul 4, 2018 • 8:38:49pm

So I made a batch of potato salad today, and I’ve had this in my head all day:

Ross Sisters - Solid Potato Salad

274
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 8:42:15pm

Fireworks have been going off since 4PM here in the Koreatown section of Los Angeles and now we have idiots firing off their guns too…

275
Belafon  Jul 4, 2018 • 8:43:18pm

re: #271 Lidane

Hmmm….

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I’ve been skimming the threads of all of these senators posting from Russia, and, while I haven’t done an exhaustive search, I’m not finding a reply defending any of them. I’m not saying they don’t exist, but the ratio is really skewed toward thrashing them.

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 8:47:55pm

No fireworks or gunshots here! Thank Ullr!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 8:51:02pm

Gaa, there is continuous fireworks now. How is it a town of 132 people has so much fireworks in one place?

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austin_blue  Jul 4, 2018 • 8:53:00pm

re: #135 teleskiguy

That was a fucked up day and night for most of us. I’m sorry, too.

See, this how to make nice. This is how to make a community. Well done, both of you.

279
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 4, 2018 • 8:53:12pm

re: #262 Anymouse 🌹

(more at juanitajean.com)

It is probably just coincidence that a disproportionate fraction of the state’s small BBQ joints are run by black entrepreneurs.

280
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 4, 2018 • 8:53:55pm

Almost time to begin my annual 3 week fixation with cycling
Saturday morning’s start of Stage 1 @ 5:00 AM and the following stages will hopefully get back on a regular sleep cycle

281
Cheechako  Jul 4, 2018 • 8:54:18pm

re: #277 Anymouse 🌹

Gaa, there is continuous fireworks now. How is it a town of 132 people has so much fireworks in one place?

Can you purchase fireworks in Nebraska? I know Wyoming has more firework stands than Starbucks shops.

282
JordanRules  Jul 4, 2018 • 8:59:41pm

re: #230 MsJ

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If you had that same energy before you saw that pic, cool. I get that.
But I will not let SS solely guide how I feel about certain folks. I’m good with Lamb so far and Alexandria so far. Cool with, not exalting as much more than a piece of the big tent, at this point.

283
BeachDem  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:00:52pm

re: #272 MsJ

Thread.

[Embedded content]

Wendy Siegelman is amazing. She ties all the strands together into a big ball of treason yarn.

284
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:02:31pm

9PM…sure would be nice if these fools stopped setting off M80s that trigger dozens of car alarms to go off….

285
Grunthos the Flatulent  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:04:48pm

We have a slightly different problem with our fireworks here.

Wellington’s Matariki fireworks could be called off until a large whale leaves the harbour.

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:04:53pm

Fuck. Just coming down the wire. Confirmed over 100 homes destroyed in the Spring Fire in southern Colorado.

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austin_blue  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:06:12pm

re: #156 A Mom Anon

Also, and I hope this doesn’t piss anyone off, but is it just me or is anyone else sick of country music being the ONLY american music that matters? I hate it. I cannot stand 99 percent of this crap. Chris Stapleton is cool, maybe a couple others, but what about American rock bands? Why are there little if any 4th of July celebrations featuring rock and roll? We have some pretty good bands from the US, what the hell?

I don’t know, I’ve always had a spontaneous orgasm whenever I’ve listened to Lee Greenwood’s I’m Proud To Be An American.

On the other hand, I generally vomit uncontrollably whenever I hear a Dixie Chicks song.

Maybe that’s just me.

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:08:02pm

re: #156 A Mom Anon

Two words. Sturgill Simpson.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:08:11pm

And now we got ANOTHER Republican unable to keep Mr. Pee Pee in his pants—Indiana Attorney General Curtis Hill…

indystar.com

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:12:09pm

re: #286 teleskiguy

Fuck. Just coming down the wire. Confirmed over 100 homes destroyed in the Spring Fire in southern Colorado.

This fire was started by an illegal immigrant. But he’s white and from Denmark, so no need for forceful condemnation from our president*.

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austin_blue  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:12:48pm

re: #196 Barefoot Grin

Respect to all who have served or are serving in our military—I don’t think it mutually exclusive to suggest that every once in awhile the 4th speeches also say “thank you” to the brave men and women who have worked hard to try to keep us out of needless wars.

Yes, but the military is not the point of THIS day. It’s about all of us. Veterans like me, citizens like the rest of us. We are all part of this great country and we need to celebrate We The People. We are in charge and we must control our destiny. Dead stop.

292
Unshaken Defiance  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:15:38pm

Big cat NOT happy

293
Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:17:17pm

Air filters are now on full speed as gunpowder smoke drifts into my humble little abode….

294
Unshaken Defiance  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:20:05pm

re: #293 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m lucky not to be getting the smoke from Universal, but it’s booming

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A Mom Anon  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:21:35pm

re: #288 teleskiguy

He’s cool too. But most of the shit that’s trumped (heh) up to be by god country music is crap. It’s “southern pop” at best. That’s the shit that gets touted as Real American music. It’s annoying that it gets wrapped in the flag and of course The Troops are always stuck in there too. It’s just, gah!

296
teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:22:20pm
297
sagehen  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:25:30pm

re: #287 austin_blue

I don’t know, I’ve always had a spontaneous orgasm whenever I’ve listened to Lee Greenwood’s I’m Proud To Be An American.

On the other hand, I generally vomit uncontrollably whenever I hear a Dixie Chicks song.

Maybe that’s just me.

I’ve always preferred The Tubes’ I’m Proud To Be An American

Proud To Be An American - Tubes Tribute

298
teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:27:49pm

Favorite patriotic song? That’s a no-brainer.

America fuck yeah-team america

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:55:39pm

re: #281 Cheechako

Can you purchase fireworks in Nebraska? I know Wyoming has more firework stands than Starbucks shops.

I don’t know if you can or not. There aren’t any fireworks stands in the Panhandle so probably not.

That said, Wyoming is not that far from here.

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:59:43pm

re: #299 Anymouse 🌹

I don’t know if you can or not. There aren’t any fireworks stands in the Panhandle so probably not.

That said, Wyoming is not that far from here.

Every border town has huge fireworks stands. I used to buy them by the bushel in Baggs when I lived in Steamboat Springs.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:04:40am

re: #58 lawhawk

Trump’s causing chaos and discord among the US and its allies, and is calling on OPEC to cut oil prices.

None of the OPEC countries have any reason to do so. That’s not how supply and demand works.

This goes beyond merely a matter of supply and demand, this is world financial geopolitics.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:17:23am

re: #271 Lidane

Hearing the sound of fireworks all around us, celebrating freedom!

3:43 AM - Jul 5, 2018

Kas Thomas
@kasthomas
Steve Daines is in this photo. He is in Russia. How is he tweeting about 4th-of-July fireworks?

As if he is trying to hide or distract from that fact?


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