Now for Something Completely Different: Japanese Math Rock Quartet Tricot, Live in the Studio

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tricot are a Japanese Math Rock quartet who write bubbly tunes with a restless energy propelled in forward motion. They pair ping-ponging riffs with round style vocals in a quirky, experimental framework to make for technically satisfying music you can move your feet to.

Recorded on June 14, 2018 in Chicago, IL.

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1
Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:21:30pm

And here’s the New York Times again, normalizing the white nationalist-linked group that supplies crime victims for Trump to exploit for ugly propaganda.

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austin_blue  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:26:18pm

Am I the only one who gets a Yes vibe off this quartet?

Nice!

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:31:42pm

It’s the Fourth of July!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:34:17pm

I cannot fucking believe what the New York Times is doing these days.

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Teukka  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:37:39pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

I cannot fucking believe what the New York Times is doing these days.

*groan* What’d they do now?

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Belafon  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:38:00pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

And here’s the New York Times again, normalizing the white nationalist-linked group that supplies crime victims for Trump to exploit for ugly propaganda.

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I’ll stick with the Parkland kids. They at least know the real problem.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:38:20pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

I cannot fucking believe what the New York Times is doing these days.

I gave up on them. No matter what they are hell bent on promoting this as The New Normal.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:38:26pm

“Inching”

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:39:18pm

re: #8 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“Inching”

Tipping point? Are we talking just the tip?

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:44:03pm

My dog fell asleep with the fireworks booming outside. He’s now snoring away.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:45:51pm

re: #2 austin_blue

I got a lounge vibe, but certainly a great interesting sound

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gwangung  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:49:46pm

re: #8 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“Inching”

Any way to give him a nice, friendly shove?

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:55:46pm

Quietest Fourth of July I’ve ever experienced. I have heard not a one firework or gunshot go off all night. That’s well and good.

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Belafon  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:56:18pm

re: #12 gwangung

Any way to give him a nice, friendly shove?

Make the story all about him rather than Trump. Start talking about how Pruitt is making all the decisions.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:56:18pm

re: #12 gwangung

Any way to give him a nice, friendly shove?

I’m sure Mr. Mueller will give Pruitt a very swift shove into a jail cell….

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Teukka  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:58:35pm

re: #15 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m sure Mr. Mueller will give Pruitt a very swift shove into a jail cell….

I hope it’s Mueller time soon… My spidey sense says something is afoot for this month…

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calochortus  Jul 4, 2018 • 9:59:01pm

We just finished watching a fireworks show from our deck. It’s a couple miles away, but you can’t beat the convenience of stepping out the door to watch. This year it was enlivened by commentary from a group of turkeys in the neighborhood. They appeared concerned.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jul 4, 2018 • 10:00:28pm

re: #16 Teukka

You’re not alone.

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calochortus  Jul 4, 2018 • 10:00:37pm

And so to bed.
Hasta mañana

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 10:02:15pm

I left your answer dangling on the last thread, because I had to brave the fusillade of rockets to check on the village well. (We’re having, well, problems … a check valve broke and water started flowing backward through our chlorine system.)

re: #281 Cheechako

Can you purchase fireworks in Nebraska? I know Wyoming has more firework stands than Starbucks shops.

I don’t know if you can or not. There aren’t any fireworks stands in the Panhandle so probably not.

That said, Wyoming is not that far from here.

re: #1 Charles Johnson

And here’s the New York Times again, normalizing the white nationalist-linked group that supplies crime victims for Trump to exploit for ugly propaganda.

I would remind you the New York Times never apologised for normalising Hitler in the Thirties.

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austin_blue  Jul 4, 2018 • 10:03:14pm

We got just short of 2” of rain today in South Austin. Any rain in July is a blessing.

A sub-tropical low pressure system pushed in from the east, skirting the south shore of the Gulf of Mexico. It dumped 5-8” of rain in Houston, shutting down the major E/W Interstate highway west of town. It pretty much shut down the fourth most populous city in the country and stopped a huge amount of material passing through the city for several hours.

We all have become accustomed to “Infrastructure Week” being a joke with this administration, but this is a perfect example of why it isn’t funny. This country needs significant upgrades to its infrastructure to keep it working smoothly.

It’s well past time to demand that the Feds step up to the plate and pay for the improvements in transportation infrastructure, flood control mitigation, and climate change defense for coastal communities that are desperately needed.

This is not rocket science. This is why major insurance companies or reinsurers will no longer offer coverage to any development, be it industrial, commercial, or residential, on the majority of land that is less than 15’ above sea level.

They are all about risk, and they know the risk. That land is gone in fifty years.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 10:04:14pm

re: #16 Teukka

I hope it’s Mueller time soon… My spidey sense says something is afoot for this month…

I’m reminded of Chris Hedges talking to East German dissidents the week before the Berlin Wall fell. Their consensus to Hedges was that they thought the wall would continue for about ten more years.

It fell the next week…

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 10:05:47pm

Smells like a campfire outside.

*sigh*

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 10:09:32pm

re: #21 austin_blue

We got just short of 2” of rain today in South Austin. Any rain in July is a blessing.

A sub-tropical low pressure system pushed in from the east, skirting the south shore of the Gulf of Mexico. It dumped 5-8” of rain in Houston, shutting down the major E/W Interstate highway west of town. It pretty much shut down the fourth most populous city in the country and stopped a huge amount of material passing through the city for several hours.

We all have become accustomed to “Infrastructure Week” being a joke with this administration, but this is a perfect example of why it isn’t funny. This country needs significant upgrades to its infrastructure to keep it working smoothly.

It’s well past time to demand that the Feds step up to the plate and pay for the improvements in transportation infrastructure, flood control mitigation, and climate change defense for coastal communities that are desperately needed.

This is not rocket science. This is why major insurance companies or reinsurers will no longer offer coverage to any development, be it industrial, commercial, or residential, on the majority of land that is less than 15’ above sea level.

They are all about risk, and they know the risk. That land is gone in fifty years.

The rich have made it clear that they have NO interest in fixing our decaying infrastructure. Their Republican stooges want to privatize everything. But the rich are too greedy to part with their wealth to finance a privatization scheme. So we will continue to ignore the crumbling infrastructure and see our empire continue down the path to collapse.

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Teukka  Jul 4, 2018 • 10:12:09pm

re: #22 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m reminded of Chris Hedges talking to East German dissidents the week before the Berlin Wall fell. Their consensus to Hedges was that they thought the wall would continue for about ten more years.

It fell the next week…

True. I both hope and don’t hope Mueller has gone to the bottom of the rot. I mean, say our worst fears are realized and not only were US elections compromised, but most of a party (GOP) as well.
That would be tantamount to an act of war, and the US is not the only country that has had Uncle Vova and his Kremlin Crew interfere. To quote Adm. Josh Painter in Red October, “This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.”

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 4, 2018 • 10:14:47pm

re: #10 Single-handed sailor

My dog fell asleep with the fireworks booming outside. He’s now snoring away.

Sometimes booming here, sometimes more like popcorn popping. Driving me nuts. Cat is asleep.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jul 4, 2018 • 10:17:13pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

I cannot fucking believe what the New York Times is doing these days.

Key figures bought off or blackmailed. I would bet on the latter.

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austin_blue  Jul 4, 2018 • 10:17:50pm

re: #23 teleskiguy

Smells like a campfire outside.

*sigh*

S’mores!

(Sorry. Couldn’t resist.)

Take care, my man.

Front load bugging out. Early adopters don’t get caught in the traffic jam where the fire overwhelms those who linger. I know you are not there yet, but being a coward is a good thing to be in situations like this and something of which to be proud.

And please note how hard I worked to end that last sentence without a dangling participle.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 10:19:01pm

On the Remembrance Project, the Nazi-curious group that feeds Tromp his surviving family members:

splcenter.org

Espinoza (the group’s leader) repeatedly uses a bogus statistic during her speeches, claiming that, “25 Americans or legal residents die each day at the hands of illegal aliens.” The origins of this come from Steve King, who since 2006 has claimed that “murderous illegal aliens” kill 12 U.S. citizens every day, while another 13 a day are left dead by “uninsured drunk driving illegals.”

Amongst other things, the group has reposted articles from Daily Stormer.

A number of people RP uses in their anti-immigrant campaigns have demanded RP stop using their images or names, and are considering suing.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 10:20:24pm

re: #27 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Key figures bought off or blackmailed. I would bet on the latter.

The Times has always been fascist-curious. There is no need to blackmail someone to do something they want to do anyway.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 10:20:41pm

re: #27 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Key figures bought off or blackmailed. I would bet on the latter.

Nothing new from them. I will never forgive Judith Miller being given carte blanche from that propaganda rag to repeatedly lie us into a war that killed my son.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 4, 2018 • 10:22:34pm

re: #25 Teukka

I’m waiting for someone in the administration or within Trump’s circle of associates to blow the whistle loud and clear, someone who is willing to buck the chain of command and “do the right thing.” We see that in The Hunt for Red October, with Jack Ryan being an independent thinker despite being a desk-bound analyst and the sub commanders on Red October and Dallas trying to avoid nuclear annihilation. The recurring theme in The Expanse are mavericks like James Holden taking matters in their own hands to avoid the major political powers from fucking things up. Fictional and of course quite contrived to make dramatic stories, but that’s what our current real-life narrative needs: someone who defies the Mighty Trump and the Turtley McConnell and shows the world what they doing to the USA.

Mueller is our best hope at this point, with the continued efforts of journalists to expose the rot in the Trump & Co administration a close second. Because I don’t see anyone in this White House (or recently expelled from it) being a brave hero like James Holden or Marko Ramius are in fiction.

[Sidebar: Coincidentally, the political officer who is killed on Red October is named “Ivan Putin.”]

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 10:32:28pm

Let’s put some food up. Today a friend called and said that I needed some REAL chicken soup so we went to Lenny’s Deli in West LA.

Sure ain’t Lipton’s or Campbell’s!
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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Jul 4, 2018 • 10:35:35pm

re: #27 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Key figures bought off or blackmailed. I would bet on the latter.

Maggie Haberman’s mother is an executive at Rubenstein, a press-relations firm.
One of her clients is The Trump Organization.
Small world, huh?

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austin_blue  Jul 4, 2018 • 10:36:39pm

Night all. Be best.

Heh.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 4, 2018 • 10:44:30pm

re: #34 Deep State SuperElite Satinist

Maggie Haberman’s mother is an executive at Rubenstein, a press-relations firm.
One of her clients is The Trump Organization.
Small world, huh?

The Habermans also know the Kushners socially.

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plansbandc  Jul 4, 2018 • 10:48:34pm

Happy 4th!

i.imgur.com

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wheat-dogg  Jul 4, 2018 • 10:56:26pm

America, coming together (or apart as the case may be) : grabbed from my Twitter TL. No editing done.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 4, 2018 • 11:22:03pm

re: #38 wheat-dogg

America, coming together (or apart as the case may be) : grabbed from my Twitter TL. No editing done.

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Jim Hoft, Idiot Second Class with Grifter Cluster.

There is lots of money and power to be gained by many people in tearing down a country. While Hoft is not a first-class grifter, he can hang on the edge of his betters at grifting.

I imagine he doesn’t think much of Bree Newsome either.

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JordanRules  Jul 4, 2018 • 11:26:09pm

re: #39 Anymouse 🌹

I want a picture of Bree and Patricia together for my screensaver!!

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teleskiguy  Jul 4, 2018 • 11:38:06pm
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JordanRules  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:04:18am

LOL

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teleskiguy  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:26:50am

I’m looking at a good Google maps composite made by law enforcement and fire fighting agencies of the Lake Christine Fire the next valley to the south of me.

Fuck, man. I know that area. Heavily forested. Everything’s dry. That fire is going to burn for weeks, that’s a given.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:28:08am

“A subreddit of Thanos fans” sounds like one of those old English collective nouns like “an exaltation of skylarks” or “a fling of dunlins”.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:32:31am

There’s a sideshow going on at an intersection on 98th Ave. in Oakland. Police are about to shut it down.

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JordanRules  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:54:25am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:57:36am

re: #46 JordanRules

Since Hungary’s April election Orbán has moved to:
—Make giving info to asylum-seekers about their rights illegal
—Block all ways to legally seek asylum in Hungary
—Make homelessness illegal
—Limit freedom of assembly, with even whistling during an Orbán speech a jailable offense

Expect to see more of this populism spreading throughout Europe.

Keep in mind that Western Europe has been dealing with immigrant populations since the 60’s. They have not always been ideal examples of tolerance, assimilation or integration, but East Germany and the Eastern Bloc had almost no experience with foreigners outside of temporary guest workers from other communist countries or exchange students.

So it should be little wonder that xenophobic populist parties are well represented in this part of Europe.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:58:03am
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Amory Blaine  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:59:28am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:59:42am

re: #48 Anymouse 🌹

Is there an ethics law this man hasn’t violated?
Will he ever be fired?
Or does Congress need to fire Trump first?
And if that doesn’t happen we need to fire Congress.

“Run government like a (Trump) business!”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:59:56am

re: #43 teleskiguy

I’m looking at a good Google maps composite made by law enforcement and fire fighting agencies of the Lake Christine Fire the next valley to the south of me.

Fuck, man. I know that area. Heavily forested. Everything’s dry. That fire is going to burn for weeks, that’s a given.

Try to stay safe, TSG. If I could send you some of our rain, I would.

It’s quite amazing how weather can be between points only a couple hundred miles apart. The North Platte River here (usually very low this time of year) is nearly to the top of the banks.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2018 • 1:04:09am

re: #47 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Expect to see more of this populism spreading throughout Europe.

Keep in mind that Western Europe has been dealing with immigrant populations since the 60’s. They have not always been ideal examples of tolerance, assimilation or integration, but East Germany and the Eastern Bloc had almost no experience with foreigners outside of temporary guest workers from other communist countries or exchange students.

So it should be little wonder that xenophobic populist parties are well represented in this part of Europe.

A good example of that here in Czech Republic is the Vietnamese expatriate community.

The vast majority of Czechs genuinely like the Vietnamese expats in their midst; they are a “model minority” according to most Czechs.

But the Czech are often nervous - if not outright hateful - towards other minorities (of course, the Roma).

The Vietnamese came here during the 1960s and 70s and they’ve stayed and prospered. But the Vietnamese are pretty much the only non-Caucasian or non-European minority that Czechs have any real and significant experience with; everyone else is, for them, an unknown quantity, and that fear of the unknown is what drives their xenophobia.

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teleskiguy  Jul 5, 2018 • 1:06:12am

re: #51 Anymouse 🌹

Try to stay safe, TSG. If I could send you some of our rain, I would.

It’s quite amazing how weather can be between points only a couple hundred miles apart. The North Platte River here (usually very low this time of year) is nearly to the top of the banks.

The Eagle River - which is near me, the bottom of the valley - its flow has been below 300 cubic feet per second for two days now. This measurement is *upriver* from me, almost 20 miles. IT’S 5 JULY!!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 1:08:38am

Big batch of thunderstorms coming our way

(I’m on the Rhine about halfway between Mainz and Koblenz)

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teleskiguy  Jul 5, 2018 • 1:11:18am

Crews are fighting fire with fire in the southeast corner of my county tonight.

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teleskiguy  Jul 5, 2018 • 1:14:07am

I saw Pulp Fiction in this movie theater in 1994 with my dad.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 1:18:58am

Way off topic:

After months of wrestling with Microsoft and other tech support fora which are not written in English (they are written in Software Engineer), I just fixed my problem with opening Word documents sent to me via E-mail (such as government documents) and Excel (such as my wife’s plan for our trip).

I distinctly remember people telling me in the late Sixties and early Seventies how computers would make everything easier.

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teleskiguy  Jul 5, 2018 • 1:19:31am

re: #56 teleskiguy

That’s the fuckin’ movie theater I saw Forrest Gump, Speed, The Blair Witch Project, Fargo…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 1:24:16am

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹

Way off topic:

After months of wrestling with Microsoft and other tech support fora which are not written in English (they are written in Software Engineer), I just fixed my problem with opening Word documents sent to me via E-mail (such as government documents) and Excel (such as my wife’s plan for our trip).

I distinctly remember people telling me in the late Sixties and early Seventies how computers would make everything easier.

If not for computers, I would have to travel to Nebraska (or you to Germany) so we could discuss politics.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 1:26:05am

re: #53 teleskiguy

The Eagle River - which is near me, the bottom of the valley - its flow has been below 300 cubic feet per second for two days now. This measurement is *upriver* from me, almost 20 miles. IT’S 5 JULY!!!

Yikes. You’re about out of water.

Here (sixteen miles upstream) we’re doing fine for now:

waterdata.usgs.gov

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 1:26:53am

re: #59 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If not for computers, I would have to travel to Nebraska (or you to Germany) so we could discuss politics.

There is that. I’ve spent way more time though than it would have taken to mail me a bunch of documents.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 1:29:18am

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹

There is that. I’ve spent way more time though than it would have taken to mail me a bunch of documents.

I work as a translator/proofreader, which would be an entirely different profession without computers and word processing.

An analogy: Even if you have to spend a whole day waiting for your airline baggage to arrive after a transcontinental flight, you were still quicker than if you had taken a train…

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teleskiguy  Jul 5, 2018 • 1:30:16am

re: #56 teleskiguy

Yes, my dad took me to see Pulp Fiction when I was 12. Yes, he watched it first before taking me. I seriously walked out of the theater thinking I saw one of the weirdest funniest fuckin’ things I’d ever seen.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 1:31:17am

re: #60 Anymouse 🌹

Yikes. You’re about out of water.

Here (sixteen miles upstream) we’re doing fine for now:

waterdata.usgs.gov

Well, that’s the wrong river and wrong town. (USGS doesn’t really make it easy to get a river gauge.)

From Nebraska DNR:
6684498, 7/5/2018 2:15:00 AM, 934 cfs

nednr.nebraska.gov

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teleskiguy  Jul 5, 2018 • 1:32:20am

re: #63 teleskiguy

AND NOW THERE’S A BIG WILDFIRE RIGHT NEXT TO THIS MOVIE THEATER. And hundreds more evacuations have been ordered in the last hour. These are my neighboring towns.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 1:33:55am

re: #62 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I work as a translator/proofreader, which would be an entirely different profession without computers and word processing.

An analogy: Even if you have to spend a whole day waiting for your airline baggage to arrive after a transcontinental flight, you were still quicker than if you had taken a train…

I work as an editor, so there is that (it is quicker when using a word processor over a typewriter and mail).

As for airlines, I don’t really see a difference from the Seventies with preprinted baggage tags, when my baggage got sent to Los Angeles when I went to Brazil and it took a month to find it, or recently with computers when I went from Poland to Regina and my baggage went to Los Angeles, and it took a month to find it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 1:41:35am

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹

I work as an editor, so there is that (it is quicker when using a word processor over a typewriter and mail).

As for airlines, I don’t really see a difference from the Seventies with preprinted baggage tags, when my baggage got sent to Los Angeles when I went to Brazil and it took a month to find it, or recently with computers when I went from Poland to Regina and my baggage went to Los Angeles, and it took a month to find it.

I guess I have been lucky and not had any baggage disasters like that ever happen.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 1:46:11am

re: #65 teleskiguy

AND NOW THERE’S A BIG WILDFIRE RIGHT NEXT TO THIS MOVIE THEATER. And hundreds more evacuations have been ordered in the last hour. These are my neighboring towns.

Is that the same fire as shown in the Twitter video, or is this a new fire?

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teleskiguy  Jul 5, 2018 • 1:48:12am

re: #68 Anymouse 🌹

Same fire in the video.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 1:49:16am

re: #69 teleskiguy

Same fire in the video.

Wow, that fire is moving fast

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teleskiguy  Jul 5, 2018 • 1:52:05am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2018 • 2:32:44am

So, this is quite a fascinating article. I recommend it.

The nightmare for Yoshiaki Kawata would start at midnight with a huge earthquake under the waters of Suruga Bay. Most people in the coastal cities of Fuji, Shizuoka and Hamamatsu in Japan’s Tokai region would be at home asleep as their homes begin to shake from tremors far stronger than those that struck the Tohoku region in 2011. Five minutes later, a 10m tsunami arrives.

“People in houses will be hurt by [the] shaking and then a tsunami coming,” says Mr Kawata, an earthquake expert and professor of safety science at Kansai University. Hundreds of thousands of people could die.

This is not an alarmist message from a university professor but the Japanese government’s official worst case scenario for a disaster it considers highly likely to occur within the next 30 years: an earthquake of between 8.0 and 9.0 magnitude in the tectonic plate boundary called the Nankai Trough. While the worst case is not the probable one, the government publicised the scenario in 2013, with Shinzo Abe, prime minister, calling on the Japanese people to be “calmly and appropriately afraid”.

ig.ft.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 2:37:45am

re: #72 Dr Lizardo

While the worst case is not the probable one, the government publicised the scenario in 2013, with Shinzo Abe, prime minister, calling on the Japanese people to be “calmly and appropriately afraid”.

So terribly Japanese. We Americans like to be wildly, massively and unnecessarily afraid.

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teleskiguy  Jul 5, 2018 • 2:39:01am

It’s still 69° at my house, though the dew point has climbed up to 36°.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 2:42:23am

weather is doing the usual thing when it hits our stretch of Rhine Valley protected by hills to the SW: it splits up and passes by on both sides.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 2:43:48am

Marcy Wheeler, formerly of FireDogLake and now with her own site (Empty Wheel) has an interesting post up.

Putting a Face (Mine) to the Risks Posed by GOP Games on Mueller Investigation

I’d like to put a human face — my own — to the risk posed by GOP gamesmanship on the Mueller investigation.

Sometime last year, I went to the FBI and provided information on a person whom I had come to believe had played a significant role in the Russian election attack on the US. Since that time, a number of public events have made it clear I was correct.

I never in my life imagined I would share information with the FBI, especially not on someone I had a journalistic relationship with. I did so for many reasons. Some, but not all, of the reasons are:

I believed he was doing serious harm to innocent people
I believed (others agreed) that reporting the story at that time would risk doing far more harm than good
I had concrete evidence he was lying to me and others, including but not limited to other journalists
I had reason to believe he was testing ways to tamper with my website
I believed that if the FBI otherwise came to understand what kind of information I had, their likely investigative steps would pose a risk to the privacy of my readers

To protect the investigation, I will not disclose this person’s true identity or the identity and/or role I believe he played in the attack. Nor will I disclose when I went to the FBI. I did so on my own, without subpoena; I did that in an effort to protect people who have spoken to me in confidence and other journalists. Largely because this effort involved a number of last minute trips to other cities, I spent around $6K of my own money traveling to meet with lawyers and for the meeting with the FBI.

(more, with copies of the posts sent to her that concerned her)

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2018 • 3:18:14am

re: #73 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So terribly Japanese. We Americans like to be wildly, massively and unnecessarily afraid.

Also, plan for the worst-case scenario and hope for the best. Better to be prepared for the worst than be caught flat-footed because of naive optimism.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 3:20:34am

re: #77 Dr Lizardo

Also, plan for the worst-case scenario and hope for the best. Better to be prepared for the worst than be caught flat-footed because of naive optimism.

Even thinking about the Worst Case Scenario is enough to set off a panic.

We trust in the Free Market to solve everything…

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2018 • 3:47:50am

Dammit, it looks like the QAnon LARPers are leaking out in the meatworld.

Apparently, a photo from yesterday in Show Low, AZ:

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 4:00:05am

re: #79 Dr Lizardo

Dammit, it looks like the QAnon LARPers are leaking out in the meatworld.

Apparently, a photo from yesterday in Show Low, AZ:

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I haven’t figured out if QAnon is one massive disinformation operation, Alex Jones-style crisis acting, some really creative troll, or maybe all of them, Katie.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 4:00:07am

re: #79 Dr Lizardo

Dammit, it looks like the QAnon LARPers are leaking out in the meatworld.

Apparently, a photo from yesterday in Show Low, AZ:

Surrounded by National Forest and yet unable to see the National Forest for the National Trees…

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 5, 2018 • 4:00:25am

re: #79 Dr Lizardo

Dammit, it looks like the QAnon LARPers are leaking out in the meatworld.

Apparently, a photo from yesterday in Show Low, AZ:

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I saw a minivan in the Home Depot parking lot a couple of days ago with Q-anon stickers all over it. I used to see cars with InfoWars stickers on them, but not so much now. Looks like they’re picking up the slack.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 4:01:27am

re: #80 Anymouse 🌹

I haven’t figured out if QAnon is one massive disinformation operation, Alex Jones-style crisis acting, some really creative troll, or maybe all of them, Katie.

I wonder how much of it is simply not people out amusing themselves by seeing how many people they can mislead/annoy. That is another big factor in any Internet sensation.

Attention means a lot to some people, more than worrying about how they gain that attention…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 4:01:57am

re: #82 Barefoot Grin

I saw a minivan in the Home Depot parking lot a couple of days ago with Q-anon stickers all over it. I used to see cars with InfoWars stickers on them, but not so much now. Looks like they’re picking up the slack.

I just read that even Alex Jones has given up on Q-anon

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2018 • 4:04:51am

re: #84 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I just read that even Alex Jones has given up on Q-anon

There was apparently some posting by “Q” the other day that the LARP’ers realized was actually bogus - it seemed like a lot of the Qultists have lost some degree of faith in their anonymous Internet pseudo-messiah.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 4:06:47am

re: #85 Dr Lizardo

There was apparently some posting by “Q” the other day that the LARP’ers realized was actually bogus - it seemed like a lot of the Qultists have lost some degree of faith in their anonymous Internet pseudo-messiah.

A new one will be along soon enough.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2018 • 4:18:49am

Back in a bit.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 4:32:58am

rightwingwatch.org

The Family Research Council’s Tony Perkins devoted his June 28 Washington Update to celebrating the fact that pro-choice Republicans have been nearly completely purged from the party.

“Endangered species are usually something we try to protect — but not when those endangered species are pro-abortion Republicans!” he wrote. “Over the past few years, the GOP has become a tough environment for Republicans who aren’t committed to advocating for the unborn. Now, with President Trump boldly leading the charge for life, most of the party’s more liberal members have seen the writing on the wall.”

Perkins cited a Politico story saying that, thanks to a couple of retirements, pro-choice Republicans in the House of Representatives “will finally be extinct.” He called anti-choice dominance of the GOP “the answer to decades of prayer,” adding, “So, many would argue, is the retirement of Justice Anthony Kennedy.”

(more)

Tony Perkins then goes on to say that this is hopeful for the rollback of LGBT rights.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 4:35:42am

re: #88 Anymouse 🌹

rightwingwatch.org

(more)

Tony Perkins then goes on to say that this is hopeful for the rollback of LGBT rights.

Back on hobby horse: One reason #WhyTrumpWon was because a lot of us started to take the gains we have made in recent decades in personal freedoms, women’s, minority and LGBT rights for granted.

People really thought those rights were safe and unassailable even under Donald Trump and the GOP.

But we are seeing a lot of people who actively want to set us back by decades.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 4:36:18am

Here’s a guy who really likes the rights afforded in the Constitution:

rightwingwatch.org

Nothing like agitprop.

Earlier this week, right-wing commentator Josh Bernstein appeared on “The NutriMedical Report Show,” a radio program hosted by nutritional supplement proprietor Dr. Bill Deagle, during which Deagle repeatedly threatened to kill anyone who dares to harass him, President Trump, or any other conservative politician in America.

Outraged about recent incidents such as White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders being asked to leave a restaurant, Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen and Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi being confronted by protesters, and Rep. Maxine Waters’ call for more such confrontations, Deagle declared that “these people need to understand, they’re not going to have a bad day, they’re going to die.”

Deagle said that if he had been on hand during the confrontation between Bondi and protesters, he would not only have pepper sprayed the protesters but “would have whipped out my concealed carry permit gun and I would have blown them away and put them in a box.”

“They need to understand the right is not going to be shouted down,” he said. “[If] they continue to think they are going to harass the right, these people need to understand they’re not going to have a bad day, they’re going to die.”

After Bernstein declared that Waters “is an absolute psychopath” who is “just insane” and needs to be put in prison for inciting violence, Deagle returned to the Bondi incident in order to again assert that if anyone were to physically attack him, he would “haul out a weapon and I would blow him away, hit him in the center of the body to make sure he didn’t have time to go to the I.C.U. or have a trauma surgeon [save him], he’d be dead on the spot.’”

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 4:42:53am

re: #89 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Back on hobby horse: One reason #WhyTrumpWon was because a lot of us started to take the gains we have made in recent decades in personal freedoms, women’s, minority and LGBT rights for granted.

People really thought those rights were safe and unassailable even under Donald Trump and the GOP.

But we are seeing a lot of people who actively want to set us back by decades.

Yup. Every generation must work to secure its rights. Rights can be taken in the metaphorical blink of an eye.

That statement from Thomas Jefferson about the tree of liberty being watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants?

Wingnuts love to quote it out of context (in the manner of overthrowing a tyrannical government). That is not what Jefferson was talking about.

The context is his statement came immediately after Shay’s Rebellion. His statement did not refer to tyranny, it referred to ignorance.

The full quote:

Yet where does this anarchy exist? Where did it ever exist, except in the single instance of Massachusets? And can history produce an instance of a rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it’s motives. They were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. God forbid we should ever be 20. years without such a rebellion. The people can not be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. We have had 13. states independant 11. years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century and a half for each state. What country ever existed a century and a half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure. Our Convention has been too much impressed by the insurrection of Massachusets: and in the spur of the moment they are setting up a kite to keep the hen yard in order. I hope in god this article will be rectified before the new constitution is accepted.

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Jay C  Jul 5, 2018 • 4:48:30am

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹

Here’s a guy who really likes the rights afforded in the Constitution:

rightwingwatch.org

Nothing like agitprop.

(more)

Ummm, does this guy Deagle have some sort of supplement that will cure his apparent irony deficiency?

Ragging on a politician for “inciting violence”, and then threatening to deal with them by “blowing them away”?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 4:50:20am

re: #92 Jay C

Ummm, does this guy Deagle have some sort of supplement that will cure his apparent irony deficiency?

Ragging on a politician for “inciting violence”, and then threatening to deal with them by “blowing them away”?

He knows that he can say whatever he thinks his supporters want to hear and they will be unaware of the disconnect and praise him for his rectifitude and steadforthness.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 4:52:59am

re: #93 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He knows that he can say whatever he thinks his supporters want to hear and they will be unaware of the disconnect and praise him for his rectifitude and steadforthness.

And if he spins up one or two wingnuts to take a gun and do his dirty work for him, so much the better. He doesn’t go to jail for it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 4:56:16am

re: #94 Anymouse 🌹

And if he spins up one or two wingnuts to take a gun and do his dirty work for him, so much the better. He doesn’t go to jail for it.

Proactive self-defense.

/

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MsJ  Jul 5, 2018 • 4:58:29am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 5:00:01am

Filed under the categories of “wingnuts” and “projection,” so-called “Coach” Dave Daubenmire is at it again.

Goes to Utah Outcasts (13:24)

Dave Daubenmire’s Homosexuality Hat Trick [EXPLICIT]

Dave Daubenmire’s Homosexuality Hat Trick [EXPLICIT]

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 5:00:54am

re: #96 MsJ

It is a matter of truth that conservative students are victims of wikkid librul bias from eleite faculty who are allso grammer nazis and they are not alloud creative spelings, either.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2018 • 5:04:15am

So, just back from the store, and milk is still really cheap (well, by Czech standards).

It works out to about $1.98 per gallon. There must be a serious glut of milk in the supply chain - it’s been this cheap for the last couple of months.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 5:08:09am

re: #99 Dr Lizardo

So, just back from the store, and milk is still really cheap (well, by Czech standards).

It works out to about $1.98 per gallon. There must be a serious glut of milk in the supply chain - it’s been this cheap for the last couple of months.

Super cheap in Germany (around $2.79 per gal), but again, there is the price of milk and then there is the cost of milk, a lot of those costs are covered by other mechanisms in the form of taxes and subsidies.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2018 • 5:12:23am

re: #100 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Super cheap in Germany (around $2.79 per gal), but again, there is the price of milk and then there is the cost of milk, a lot of those costs are covered by other mechanisms in the form of taxes and subsidies.

I would imagine there’s some pretty major dairy subsidies at play, at least here in Czech Republic.

That reminds me……….there’s a small family dairy not far from me that offers fresh milk to the public. I’m gonna have to check that out, maybe next week.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 5:15:45am

I’m going to hit the rack … I have to get chlorine for our water system later today. G’night (morning) y’all.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 5:16:31am

re: #101 Dr Lizardo

I would imagine there’s some pretty major dairy subsidies at play, at least here in Czech Republic.

People assume that the price of a product represents its costs. When the whole point of modern capitalism is about maximizing profits by socializing as many downstream costs as possible.

Whenever people go on an anti-plastic rant, I just point out that it represents a major failing of our market and regulatory system: we allow the costs of disposal of plastic to be absorbed by the general public instead of being accounted for in the price.

Doing so most likely would have led to no end of creative and viably sustainable alternatives by now.

Instead we get specific laws on plastic products that are well-intentioned, sometimes effective but do not address the root problem.

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MsJ  Jul 5, 2018 • 5:17:30am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 5:19:08am

re: #104 MsJ

How’s the Second Civil War going?

It’s the Second War Between the States, suh!

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MsJ  Jul 5, 2018 • 5:19:30am

My goodness…the whole thread. EL OH EL.

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MsJ  Jul 5, 2018 • 5:21:05am

re: #105 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s the Second War Between the States, suh!

How does Alex Jones have a following? I get that there are people out there who buy into the BS, but Jones came out and said there was going to be a war yesterday…and people are supposed to what, think it came and went and there was just no coverage because of fake news…or something? I mean this is provably false.

I do not get it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 5:22:20am

re: #107 MsJ

How does Alex Jones have a following?

I think that he sees himself as a performance artist. A lot of his followers just identify with his persona, one of permanent creative outrage.

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Jay C  Jul 5, 2018 • 5:25:53am

re: #107 MsJ

How does Alex Jones have a following? I get that there are people out there who buy into the BS, but Jones came out and said there was going to be a war yesterday…and people are supposed to what, think it came and went and there was just no coverage because of fake news…or something? I mean this is provably false.

I do not get it.

Of course Alex Jones’ BS is “ provably false”: but only if one wants to prove it. Assumption not much in evidence for those followers….

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MsJ  Jul 5, 2018 • 5:34:10am

re: #109 Jay C

Of course Alex Jones’ BS is “ provably false”: but only if one wants to prove it. Assumption not much in evidence for those followers….

Which I would agree with on any other given day. This lie, however, is in your face. It is not like saying someone is a pedo or what have you. Jones said war would happen and it didn’t. That’s a pretty big one.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 5:35:28am

re: #110 MsJ

Which I would agree with on any other given day. This lie, however, is in your face. It is not like saying someone is a pedo or what have you. Jones said war would happen and it didn’t. That’s a pretty big one.

How many Apocalypse preachers wrecked their reputation on false predictions of the End Times? Not many at all…

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jeffreyw  Jul 5, 2018 • 5:37:18am

Imgur


Good morning!

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MsJ  Jul 5, 2018 • 5:37:51am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 5:42:36am

re: #113 MsJ

A racist female passenger was #arrested by police after verbally attacking passengers in a racially laced tirade on a Transport of Rockland

how uncivil

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 5:46:49am

re: #96 MsJ

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That boy ain’t right. I like how he’s convinced of this even though most students don’t wear their political beliefs on their sleeves. I didn’t in my classes in college. Charlie’s just mad because he’s stupid and he knows this whole charade he has of crying victim can last so long.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 5:50:11am

re: #113 MsJ

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Must have been economic anxiety.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 5:55:28am

I started watching Bobby Kennedy for President last night. Very interesting documentary. The stuff with Civil Rights just feels really relevant to today.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2018 • 5:57:30am

re: #116 HappyWarrior

Must have been economic anxiety.

Indeed, economic an卐iety strikes again.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 5:59:17am

re: #118 Dr Lizardo

Indeed, economic an卐iety strikes again.

I wasn’t alive in the 60’s but it really feels to me that being a racist jerk is in vogue. Trump has really encouraged people to be bigots.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 5, 2018 • 5:59:27am

re: #115 HappyWarrior

That boy ain’t right. I like how he’s convinced of this even though most students don’t wear their political beliefs on their sleeves. I didn’t in my classes in college. Charlie’s just mad because he’s stupid and he knows this whole charade he has of crying victim can last so long.

I’m not sure he’s that self-aware. He’s just convinced that we teachers punish “highly intelligent” conservative students with poor grades, because we’re mean liberals. In 30+ years of teaching, and nearly 18 years of education, I have never seen this happen. Some teachers may favor some students over others, but usually not for reasons of politics. Besides, how often does politics end up being a factor in math, science or foreign languages classes?

The idea that conservative students deserve poor grades because their reasoning abilities are flawed escapes poor Charlie, who displays those shortcomings daily on Twitter.

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makeitstop  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:02:23am

What a morning so far. Our local power company is upgrading gas lines in our neighborhood, and today it’s our turn.

There’s a crew out in the street with a jackhammer, digging up the street to get to our gas connection. And because workers need access to our basement, I put Scout out in the back yard and he’s happily singing along with the jackhammer.

Believe it or not, it’s making me wish for the relative quiet of last night’s fireworks.

How’s everyone else’s Monday II going?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:03:04am

re: #119 HappyWarrior

I wasn’t alive in the 60’s but it really feels to me that being a racist jerk is in vogue. Trump has really encouraged people to be bigots.

Oh, he’s definitely empowered them.

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fern01  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:09:30am

re: #13 teleskiguy

Quietest Fourth of July I’ve ever experienced. I have heard not a one firework or gunshot go off all night. That’s well and good.

No-one feels like celebrating?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:21:43am

re: #120 wheat-dogg

I’m not sure he’s that self-aware. He’s just convinced that we teachers punish “highly intelligent” conservative students with poor grades, because we’re mean liberals. In 30+ years of teaching, and nearly 18 years of education, I have never seen this happen. Some teachers may favor some students over others, but usually not for reasons of politics. Besides, how often does politics end up being a factor in math, science or foreign languages classes?

The idea that conservative students deserve poor grades because their reasoning abilities are flawed escapes poor Charlie, who displays those shortcomings daily on Twitter.

He has no critical thinking skills.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:21:59am

re: #122 Dr Lizardo

Oh, he’s definitely empowered them.

He really has.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:23:56am

AHAHAHAHAHA!

A giant balloon dubbed “Trump baby” has been given the green light to fly near parliament during the president’s UK visit.

London mayor Sadiq Khan’s Greater London Authority has approved a request for the flight after thousands signed a petition and a crowdfunding campaign raised more than £16,000 to get the six-metre inflatable off the ground.

Strict rules are in place for the flight from Parliament Square Gardens, with the balloon being tethered to the ground and restricted from floating higher than 30m (98ft).

news.sky.com

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:23:58am

re: #90 Anymouse 🌹

Here’s a guy who really likes the rights afforded in the Constitution:

rightwingwatch.org

Nothing like agitprop.

(more)

So as soon as you are around him and are critical of the admin you can then turn around and “stand your ground” against him based on his words since “feared for my life” is a justification?

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MsJ  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:26:50am

How did it take this long to come to the fore?

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:27:21am

re: #127 Eventual Carrion

So as soon as you are around him and are critical of the admin you can then turn around and “stand your ground” against him based on his words since “feared for my life” is a justification?

Well, if he whips out a roscoe, I’d say that’s a pretty clear-cut case of self-defense.

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MsJ  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:29:07am

Stupid, gullible people.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:32:18am

re: #129 Dr Lizardo

Well, if he whips out a roscoe, I’d say that’s a pretty clear-cut case of self-defense.

Trayvon Martin didn’t pull out anything and the defense worked for ZimmShit.

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William Lewis  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:34:06am

re: #127 Eventual Carrion

So as soon as you are around him and are critical of the admin you can then turn around and “stand your ground” against him based on his words since “feared for my life” is a justification?

He’s the kind of fascist who is going to find himself dead one day because he refuses to believe that we leftists might be armed too - and even have concealed carry permits even. He waves that gun around, someone thinks “imminent danger!” and he’s dead.

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Weaselone  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:34:33am

re: #123 fern01

No-one feels like celebrating?

This wasn’t the experience in my neighborhood. If anything there were significantly more fireworks set off than usual.

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MsJ  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:34:53am

Good god. He actually said this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:38:51am

re: #119 HappyWarrior

I wasn’t alive in the 60’s but it really feels to me that being a racist jerk is in vogue. Trump has really encouraged people to be bigots.

Because we have been given the impression that White Supremacy and alt-right fascism are just points along the political spectrum and not something that is totally anathema to American values.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:39:50am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

In 2011, Espinoza spoke at a Tea Party event in Austin, Texas, which encouraged lawmakers to introduce an omnibus anti-immigrant bill similar to those in Arizona and Alabama. Another speaker at the event, Rebecca Forest told the crowd:

“If you want to know why we can’t pass legislation in Texas it’s because we have 37, no 36, Hispanics in the Legislature. All of the states that have passed legislation have a handful, and I mean literally, some of them have no Hispanic legislators, well, maybe three or five or something. So that’s, umm, part of our problem and we need to change those numbers. We need to do something about that.”

Sounds like quite the charmer.

///

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:41:46am

re: #135 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because we have been given the impression that White Supremacy and alt-right fascism are just points along the political spectrum and not something that is totally anathema to American values.

Right.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:42:10am

re: #134 MsJ

If he were in my public speaking class, I’d just stop him after the first non sequitur and tell him to collect his thoughts and maybe prepare some notes before opening his mouth. Or I’d just fail him, if it wasn’t an extemporaneous speech assignment.

Oh, what the hell. He’s a conservative. I’d just fail him. /

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makeitstop  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:43:38am

re: #128 MsJ

How did it take this long to come to the fore?

I don’t know if anyone posted this yesterday, but Jordan has run to the Capitol Police (or will, when he’s back from giving blowjobs to oligarchs) because that former wrestler is ‘bullying’ him with emails.

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) has reportedly decided to enlist the help of Capitol Hill police after receiving emails from a man who says he suffered sexual abuse during Jordan’s time as an assistant coach at Ohio State University. Several former wrestlers accused Jordan of turning a blind eye to the abuse during his time at the school, saying he had been informed directly of inappropriate touching by the team doctor. Jordan has denied ever being aware of the allegations, and now says he believes one of the alleged victims, Mike DiSabato, is “bullying him” with emails, according to CNN. DiSabato publicly accused Jordan of lying about being unaware of the abuse on Tuesday. A day later, a source within Jordan’s office told CNN that the Ohio Republican intends to get police involved after receiving numerous emails from DiSabato over the course of a few months. The emails were described as vaguely threatening, though no details were provided on their content.

Snowflake.

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Eventual Carrion  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:46:48am

re: #139 makeitstop

I don’t know if anyone posted this yesterday, but Jordan has run to the Capitol Police (or will, when he’s back from giving blowjobs to oligarchs) because that former wrestler is ‘bullying’ him with emails.

Snowflake.

Did the emails mention “blowing him away”? Because it seems that is an alright threat to make to people, so no worry.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:47:43am

re: #138 wheat-dogg

If he were in my public speaking class, I’d just the Press were doing their job, they’d just stop him after the first non sequitur and tell him to collect his thoughts and maybe prepare some notes before opening his mouth.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:53:00am

re: #141 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It was a speech, not a press conference.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:53:29am

re: #141 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Well, yeah, but I think his run-on was during a public address. I’d love for someone in the audience to stand up and ask, “Excuse me, but what the fuck do you mean … sir?”

Aside from his questionable mental abilities, I’m sure that Trump figures with his great brain he doesn’t need to prepare for his public appearances. He can just wing it, and his adoring fans will lap it up and ask for more. He has no incentive or motivation to prepare his remarks, and he doesn’t care anyway. It’s how he’s managed his personal and professional life since, I dunno, the age of 9, probably.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:53:38am

re: #104 MsJ

How’s the Second Civil War going?

— Rick Wilson

Just waiting for the liberal American hating left to start it! ‘Hey mom, we’re all out of chips down here!’

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:54:05am

re: #142 Belafon

It was a speech, not a press conference.

He talks like that all the time.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:55:35am

re: #145 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He talks like that all the time.

Translators and interpreters are at a loss. They probably just have to condense his remarks into something cogent for their bosses.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:56:28am

re: #144 Sir John Barron

Just waiting for the liberal American hating left to start it! ‘Hey mom, we’re all out of chips down here!’

AND COULD YA PUT ANOTHER HOTPOCKET IN THE MICROWAVE?!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:56:30am

re: #146 wheat-dogg

Translators and interpreters are at a loss. They probably just have to condense his remarks into something cogent for their bosses.

90% of it is vacuous and subjective, and the rest is lies, fabrications or exaggerations.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:57:44am

re: #146 wheat-dogg

Translators and interpreters are at a loss. They probably just have to condense his remarks into something cogent for their bosses.

Trump: Argle bargle.
Foreign leader to translator: *What’s he saying?*
Translator: *I’ll let you know when he says something coherent.*

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:57:46am

re: #146 wheat-dogg

Translators and interpreters are at a loss. They probably just have to condense his remarks into something cogent for their bosses.

A student of mine who is fluent in English couldn’t understand what Trump was babbling about when I played her his “nuclear speech”. She was quite confused.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:57:54am

The playing goes without saying, but I really like the vocal melodies and harmonies of tricot. Thanks for posting this.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:57:55am

re: #139 makeitstop

I don’t know if anyone posted this yesterday, but Jordan has run to the Capitol Police (or will, when he’s back from giving blowjobs to oligarchs) because that former wrestler is ‘bullying’ him with emails.

Snowflake.

Do these former wrestlers not understand that Jordan (R-Drumpf) is too busy running interference for our Russian colluding chief executive to be burdened with their little problems?

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 6:59:26am

re: #149 Belafon

Trump: Argle bargle.
Foreign leader to translator: *What’s he saying?*
Translator: *I’ll let you know when he says something coherent.*

Like the famous bit about the fellow waiting for the translator to tell him what German Chancellor Bismarck was saying: “I’m waiting for the verb!”

In this case it’s “I’m waiting for coherency!”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:01:48am

re: #149 Belafon

Trump: Argle bargle.
Foreign leader to translator: *What’s he saying?*
Translator: *I’ll let you know when he says something coherent.*

Translator: Something about his electoral colleges…now he’s saying the whole U.S. government is conspiring against him…

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:01:48am
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wheat-dogg  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:02:14am

re: #150 Dr Lizardo

A student of mine who is fluent in English couldn’t understand what Trump was babbling about when I played her his “nuclear speech”. She was quite confused.

He likes to refer to his atomic scientist uncle, and compare himself to his uncle’s genius. He’s got an inferiority complex, and I bet he flunked physics more than once in school.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:03:18am

re: #156 wheat-dogg

He likes to refer to his atomic scientist uncle, and compare himself to his uncle’s genius. He’s got an inferiority complex, and I bet he flunked physics more than once in school.

That’s a guarantee.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:03:27am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

And here’s the New York Times again, normalizing the white nationalist-linked group that supplies crime victims for Trump to exploit for ugly propaganda.

Thanks for this, Charles, I was a bit curious about this group. Not surprising about their background.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:04:06am

re: #156 wheat-dogg

He likes to refer to his atomic scientist uncle, and compare himself to his uncle’s genius. He’s got an inferiority complex, and I bet he flunked physics more than once in school.

It might explain something if he got his genes from his uncle.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:04:57am

re: #156 wheat-dogg

He likes to refer to his atomic scientist uncle, and compare himself to his uncle’s genius. He’s got an inferiority complex, and I bet he flunked physics more than once in school.

Drumpf flunking physics? I can’t imagine he would have enrolled in such a course if he could have avoided it.

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austin_blue  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:05:39am

re: #128 MsJ

How did it take this long to come to the fore?

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Young abused men, self-shaming, and a society that will auto-load to accusations of “Queer!” if you talk about it.

Pedophiles aren’t a new thing. Whether they prey on boys or Lolitas, they have been around forever. Once this simple fact is acknowledged, you come to the stark realization that clergy have been abusing little boys for the entire span of history. And that the victims, male and female, have always kept quiet, or been kept quiet.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:05:40am

WOMP WOMP

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:06:03am

re: #160 Sir John Barron

Drumpf flunking physics? I can’t imagine he would have enrolled in such a course if he could have avoided it.

Remember that the guy he appointed to head the Department of Energy once got a C in a course titled “Meats”.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:06:16am

re: #154 Sir John Barron

Translator: Something about his electoral colleges…now he’s saying the whole U.S. government is conspiring against him…

Translator: Now he’s complaining about Sessions recusing himself….

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:07:36am

Bad News for Moroun The Bridge Troll

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austin_blue  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:09:18am

re: #160 Sir John Barron

Drumpf flunking physics? I can’t imagine he would have enrolled in such a course if he could have avoided it.

Well, if you go to “the best schools” you’re taking it it in high school, like it or not. It’s core.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:09:21am

re: #165 The Vicious Babushka

Bad News for Moroun The Bridge Troll

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They named it after Gordie Howe? Way cool!

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dangerman  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:10:37am

clearly, the internet is for porn
and just as obviously the other 90% of the internet is filled with cat videos

if you ignore the tiny sliver of all the favorite aunt’s recipes that you’ve always been doing wrong, the rest seems to be just two things*

- half of everybody daily, hourly, relentlessly pointing out the hypocrisy (real or imagined) and lies of everybody *else*
- and arguing

im not sure either of those things are doing anything effective
(“provably false” certainly doesnt matter)

* ok, there’s lgf, all you buds, and music. some really good music

i know we each are dealing with this shit show in our way

on election night i had to adjust my thinking and vision of the future.
things were not going to be the way i saw, planned, assumed.

i have to readjust my thinking and vision again.
even after that first realignment, things are not going as i figured, and way worse

i took this week off (like i did back after the election)
no interenet
no news
no lgf (sniff)
when that tug comes, i go to a book, crosswords, anything
im running about 50 miles a week. that keeps me good and tired

i need a break from the endless barrage of so much not-normal while those who could do something anything sit by idly and abet or worse, are complicit

staying current and up to date, discussing the day’s nonsense is making me angry and accomplishing nothing.
it is bringing me down. way way down.

im taking a sanity break

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:13:00am

re: #168 dangerman

clearly, the internet is for porn

It can be a source of news, but not from social media, unless that news is about aunt’s favorite recipes, cute kids and pets, etc.

Certainly not for politics and current events.

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makeitstop  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:18:29am

re: #162 The Vicious Babushka

WOMP WOMP

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Well, at least he landed that sweet Roe v. Wade part first. ///

Imagine the whining we’re going to hear over this.

Snowflake.

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austin_blue  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:20:01am

re: #169 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It can be a source of news, but not from social media, unless that news is about aunt’s favorite recipes, cute kids and pets, etc.

Certainly not for politics and current events.

I like to read the Guardian and the BBC to get some context on world news that is not full on America, Fuck Yeah!!

But everything I read on the ‘Net, including what I read here, I read with my Snopes Scope turned up to High. That’s just common sense. Which, all too apparently, isn’t common.

Edit- My Karma has got a lot of zeroes right now. Ah, these little milestones…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:21:17am

re: #171 austin_blue

I like to read the Guardian and the BBC to get some context on world news that is not full on America, Fuck Yeah!!

But everything I read on the ‘Net, including what I read here, I read with my Snopes Scope turned up to High. That’s just common sense. Which, all too apparently, isn’t common.

There are a numerous sources that can be trusted, but even then you are not necessarily getting the whole picture or context until you read other sources, cross-check and verify.

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wheat-dogg  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:22:30am

re: #171 austin_blue

I like to read the Guardian and the BBC to get some context on world news that is not full on America, Fuck Yeah!!

But everything I read on the ‘Net, including what I read here, I read with my Snopes Scope turned up to High. That’s just common sense. Which, all too apparently, isn’t common.

Edit- My Karma has got a lot of zeroes right now. Ah, these little milestones…

I am creeping ever so slowly toward the 80,000 mark.

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MsJ  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:23:07am
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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:29:28am

re: #166 austin_blue

Well, if you go to “the best schools” you’re taking it it in high school, like it or not. It’s core.

I’m not that much younger than DT, and at my (good) high school, the requirement was physics OR physiology (bio and chem were the other science requirements). For college prep, of course.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:35:06am

re: #168 dangerman

For the academically inclined, it’s a gold mine. Information, archives, old everything at your fingertips.

Likewise if you want to build or fix anything.

Obviously, caution is needed (it always has been, you know).

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:36:04am

re: #123 fern01

No-one feels like celebrating?

Wildfires and evacuations all around him.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:36:12am

re: #121 makeitstop

I actually like the sound of a well oiled 90 pound jack hammer, deep and rhythmic. Pounds away asphalt slowly and deliberately. The 60 pound jackhammer? Chips away like a woodpecker on meth.

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:37:04am

re: #107 MsJ

How does Alex Jones have a following? I get that there are people out there who buy into the BS, but Jones came out and said there was going to be a war yesterday…and people are supposed to what, think it came and went and there was just no coverage because of fake news…or something? I mean this is provably false.

I do not get it.

Think of Alex as cheap drugs bought off a sketchy dealer.

When you first hear of one of his predictions it is so outrageous you get that buzz. Just like the anticipation for that pound of cocaine you bought for $50 because the dealer has to move it fast, the cops are checking him out.

Then when the time comes and nothing happens from the big Jones build up, you are too embarrassed to admit you bought in.

Just like after you plug your nose up with the 2 pounds of caffeine and talc and never admit to anyone it wasn’t cocaine you bought for $50 a pound.

That is how Alex Jones goes on. The sad fact is most of his followers never get the buzz and never admit they never got the buzz, they just keep buying in because it is cheap anticipation.

It all sounds too good.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:40:09am

re: #179 ObserverArt

Think of Alex as cheap drugs bought off a sketchy dealer.

He is a performance artist, playing the role of the creatively outraged outsider with insider knowledge. From what I read, he used to purvey left-wing CTs but then found that right-wing rage and frothing were much more popular and lucrative.

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:41:02am

re: #121 makeitstop

What a morning so far. Our local power company is upgrading gas lines in our neighborhood, and today it’s our turn.

There’s a crew out in the street with a jackhammer, digging up the street to get to our gas connection. And because workers need access to our basement, I put Scout out in the back yard and he’s happily singing along with the jackhammer.

Believe it or not, it’s making me wish for the relative quiet of last night’s fireworks.

How’s everyone else’s Monday II going?

Hot and humid. Waiting for the relief we are supposed to get starting tomorrow…after the storms come through and mess everything up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:42:26am

re: #181 ObserverArt

Hot and humid. Waiting for the relief we are supposed to get starting tomorrow…after the storms come through and mess everything up.

we are getting a repeat of earlier this week: storms came and butted up against the Hunsrück hills and went around us on both sides.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:44:19am

re: #180 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He is a performance artist, playing the role of the creatively outraged outsider with insider knowledge. From what I read, he used to purvey left-wing CTs but then found that right-wing rage and frothing were much more popular and lucrative.

He was always right wing.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:44:58am

I see Alex Jones as a cynical con artist personally.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:46:23am

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Jay C  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:47:04am

re: #121 makeitstop

How’s everyone else’s Monday II going?

Important things on the plate: finding an apartment to move to by month’s end (victims of RE law, alas).

Less-important things*: we sent the (Himalayan) cats to the groomers this morning for a wash-and-clip: we do NOT anticipate receiving Happy Kitties back. Thankfully, they seem to have missed the class in Bladder Vengeance at Kitten School.

*though not to them!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:47:20am

re: #185 GlutenFreeJesus

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Canvassing Cathy? Collect them all!

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:49:28am

re: #128 MsJ

How did it take this long to come to the fore?

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The doctor that did the abuse was active in the late 70s all the way through the late 90s when he retired.

The Larry Nasser trials and revelations seems to have inspired a former OSU wrestler to go public. It has built from there.

Here is a link to an Ohio State Lantern (Student paper) that lays out a bit of the history of the doctor.

OSU Lantern - Ohio State investigating allegations of sexual misconduct by former wrestling team doctor

Also, I am noticing articles when I looked for this link saying this could stop Jim Jordan’s bid for Speaker of the House.

Damn, I hope so. We do not need that asshole as Speaker. Ever.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:49:56am

Frontline and ProPublica are on the white supremacist movement, especially a group called Rise Above Movement, or RAM, which has been recruiting from violent Nazi-skinhead group in San Diego. They were active in Berkeley riots and in Charlottesville (RAM).

The guy in the read hat about to throw a soda can in the first link is a UC-Berkeley doctoral candidate in Astro-mechanical engineering (or something similar). He’s featured in the second link with a report that he holds security clearance as an employee with Northrup Grumman and the company (and our government) has down nothing about it.

pbs.org

pbs.org

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:50:10am

re: #188 ObserverArt

The doctor that did the abuse was active in the late 70s all the way through the late 90s when he retired.

The Larry Nasser trials and revelations seems to have inspired a former OSU wrestler to go public. It has built from there.

Here is a link to an Ohio State Lantern (Student paper) that lays out a bit of the history of the doctor.

OSU Lantern - Ohio State investigating allegations of sexual misconduct by former wrestling team doctor

Also, I am noticing articles when I looked for this link saying this could stop Jim Jordan’s bid for Speaker of the House.

Damn, I hope so. We do not need that asshole as Speaker. Ever.

It’s bsd enough he’s in Congress to begin with.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:50:37am

re: #188 ObserverArt

The doctor that did the abuse was active in the late 70s all the way through the late 90s when he retired.

In hierarchical organizations, authority flows directly from the top, and thus responsibility can be traced right back to the top.

Which is why the cover-up was so vital.

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:54:09am

re: #139 makeitstop

I don’t know if anyone posted this yesterday, but Jordan has run to the Capitol Police (or will, when he’s back from giving blowjobs to oligarchs) because that former wrestler is ‘bullying’ him with emails.

Snowflake.

They were friendly when DiSabato was on the wrestling team under Jordan as assistant coach. Jordan is scared because Mike DiSabato has a lot of power at OSU since he was an extremely successful wrestler.

Jordan is on the hot seat now. There are people in Columbus’ power structure that would probably love to see him gone out of politics.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:54:59am

re: #188 ObserverArt

Also, I am noticing articles when I looked for this link saying this could stop Jim Jordan’s bid for Speaker of the House.

Damn, I hope so. We do not need that asshole as Speaker. Ever.

Oh good gawd

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makeitstop  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:55:06am

re: #181 ObserverArt

Hot and humid. Waiting for the relief we are supposed to get starting tomorrow…after the storms come through and mess everything up.

Same here, just a bit less uncomfortable than it’s been for the past 4 or 5 days.

And today I get to go to Guitar Center and pick up those speaker cabinets I didn’t get the other day, so…sweaty me this afternoon, probably.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:55:59am

They’re not going to do shit about it. He’s a main pit bull protecting Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 7:58:02am

re: #195 Barefoot Grin

Remember when they forced Al Franken to resign over a photograph that was, at worst, a poor joke? Ok then GOP, what are you going to do about this?

The outmaneuvered Al Franken and forced him to seek the high ground by retiring. But they are not playing for the high ground. There is no power there.

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makeitstop  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:00:07am

re: #195 Barefoot Grin

They’re not going to do shit about it. He’s a main pit bull protecting Trump.

That depends upon how pissed the locals are. Remember when Joe Paterno was considered untouchable?

Folks in Jordan’s district may have the last say in this. At least I hope so.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:00:40am

re: #197 makeitstop

That depends upon how pissed the locals are. Remember when Joe Paterno was considered untouchable?

Folks in Jordan’s district may have the last say in this. At least I hope so.

That’s true. Too bad Ohio already had its primaries.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:03:17am

When someone asks what platform Democrats are running on, only 3 words are needed.

Repair the Damage.

All that’s needed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:04:49am

re: #199 Dave In Austin

When someone asks what platform Democrats are running on, only 3 words are needed.

Repair the Damage.

All that’s needed.

return the children

they should bring a group of children of the same number as there are missing to any GOP rally and ask when they missing children will be located and returned…

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:05:21am

re: #197 makeitstop

That depends upon how pissed the locals are. Remember when Joe Paterno was considered untouchable?

Folks in Jordan’s district may have the last say in this. At least I hope so.

Me, too.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:05:47am

Agh the Post has an editorial from Thiessen whining at Democrats for daring to call out Trump. I tried reading it but it was nothing but crap from people who claim they’re not Trump fans but “hate” the “unfair” criticism of him and was thumping the 45% approval rating Trump supposedly has. Fuck this shit.

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Jay C  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:06:13am

re: #197 makeitstop

That depends upon how pissed the locals are. Remember when Joe Paterno was considered untouchable?

Folks in Jordan’s district may have the last say in this. At least I hope so.

It will probably depend on how credible (and/or documented) the allegations that Jordan observed abuse (and did nothing) are: that he ignored reports of it are bad enough: witnessing it is another matter entirely.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:07:00am

re: #202 HappyWarrior

Agh the Post has an editorial from Thiessen whining at Democrats for daring to call out Trump. I tried reading it but it was nothing but crap from people who claim they’re not Trump fans but “hate” the “unfair” criticism of him and was thumping the 45% approval rating Trump supposedly has. Fuck this shit.

Obama’s ratings were higher. Didn’t mean a thing.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:07:57am

re: #202 HappyWarrior

Agh the Post has an editorial from Thiessen whining at Democrats for daring to call out Trump. I tried reading it but it was nothing but crap from people who claim they’re not Trump fans but “hate” the “unfair” criticism of him and was thumping the 45% approval rating Trump supposedly has. Fuck this shit.

Thiessen is long past being deserved any decent consideration.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:09:20am

re: #205 Sir John Barron

Thiessen is long past being deserved any decent consideration.

Indeed.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:10:36am

re: #206 HappyWarrior

Indeed.

In Obama’s 8 years you could count on him for leveling every sort of “unfair” criticism at the POTUS. But now, any criticism of Drumps is “unfair”. Spit.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:11:34am

re: #206 HappyWarrior

Indeed.

I wonder what Thiessen thinks would be a “fair” criticism of Dumpster? Or is everything out of bounds?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:12:55am

re: #204 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Obama’s ratings were higher. Didn’t mean a thing.

Yep. We didn’t have to read about how Obama’s critics were just unfair. // Nope instead people like Marc acted like every small criticism of Obama was legitimate.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:13:51am

re: #208 Sir John Barron

I wonder what Thiessen thinks would be a “fair” criticism of Dumpster? Or is everything out of bounds?

That’s what I wanted to know reading this. Instead just crap from people who claim they think Trump’s not perfect but are encouraged to support him because of his critics. Yeah okay because that makes logical sense.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:14:09am

re: #185 GlutenFreeJesus

Who is Wake Up Suzie? The cranky Yale (or Harvard) person who was aggrieved that an African American student was apparently sleeping in a dorm lobby?

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MsJ  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:19:00am

re: #195 Barefoot Grin

They’re not going to do shit about it. He’s a main pit bull protecting Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:20:49am

re: #212 MsJ

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Corey Stewart nuff said. I don’t want to be lectured about what it means to be an American from these pricks.

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Chrysicat  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:27:02am

re: #213 HappyWarrior

Corey Stewart nuff said. I don’t want to be lectured about what it means to be an American from these pricks.

And if they’re right about what it means to be an American—which if we don’t win the election this year, they are—I don’t want to be one any longer. Which, admittedly, Trump’s de-naturalisation squad may take care of even though most of my great-grandparents were born here.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:34:22am

re: #46 JordanRules

WH: These are great ideas. Let’s make it part of MAGA!

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Jay C  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:36:05am

re: #210 HappyWarrior

That’s what I wanted to know reading this. Instead just crap from people who claim they think Trump’s not perfect but are encouraged to support him because of his critics. Yeah okay because that makes logical sense.

Unfortunately,when it comes to the disgusting variety of highly-polarized political discourse we have in this country, the “Trump sucks, but I support him because mean liberal critics…” routine does make sense - crap though it is. For all the “buyer’s remorse” legendry left-leaners love to try to promulgate online, it’s another thing entirely to get voters (or anybody really) to admit that they were deluded fools for voting for Trump - whatever their motivation - and the convenient “but critics!” dodge provides an easy out for these folks. Even if it is almost-certainly more common in the media (and on the ‘Net) than in reality.

But yeah, what exactly is “fair”/”unfair” criticism of Donald Trump as POTUS? Policy? Efficiency? Ethics? Credibility? Personality? Political skills? Trump comes up short in every category when argued on facts: pissy grumping about the tone of the critiques is about all his defenders have left.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:36:41am

re: #38 wheat-dogg

America, coming together (or apart as the case may be) : grabbed from my Twitter TL. No editing done.

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Should have known SMOTI would be on the case.

///

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Bubblehead II  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:36:56am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:39:08am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:41:45am

Folks, please check in and let me know you are OK!

Please let us know you survived!
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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:47:22am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:49:59am

re: #221 GlutenFreeJesus

Nationalism is not a bad thing in and of itself if it means being proud of your nation’s accomplishments and contributions to the world while also recognizing its mistakes and shortcomings. It is fine if it means being proud of your country but not at the cost of belittling or demeaning other nations.

In other words, nothing that passes for “nationalism” on the Right

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:50:02am
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Dave In Austin  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:51:50am

Most won’t understand this, but my response is “Perfect”

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:52:09am

re: #197 makeitstop

That depends upon how pissed the locals are. Remember when Joe Paterno was considered untouchable?

Folks in Jordan’s district may have the last say in this. At least I hope so.

Sad thing is, Jordan’s much gerrymandered district loves his act.

If anything happens, it will come from the Ohio Republican Party, the Columbus power people and Kasich all getting together to somehow bring him down.

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MsJ  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:53:11am

re: #219 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:55:11am

re: #203 Jay C

It will probably depend on how credible (and/or documented) the allegations that Jordan observed abuse (and did nothing) are: that he ignored reports of it are bad enough: witnessing it is another matter entirely.

OSU wrestler Mike DiSabato is a very credible witness and (former?) friend to Jordan.

Jordan will have a very tough time making DiSabato look bad. If anything, he may have counted on his ‘friend’ to go along with the story.

The Nassar gymnastics abuse thing changed all of that.

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MsJ  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:55:39am

re: #223 Joe Bacon 🌹

You know, if i was a religious person, I would be thinking trump was the anti-christ about now. Truly so.

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Teukka  Jul 5, 2018 • 8:56:44am

re: #228 MsJ

You know, if i was a religious person, I would be thinking trump was the anti-christ about now. Truly so.

Been suspecting he and Uncle Vova are the tag team mentioned in the last book of Scripture…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:02:19am

re: #228 MsJ

You know, if i was a religious person, I would be thinking trump was the anti-christ about now. Truly so.

We already had the Anti-Christ in the White House.

RONALD = 6
WILSON = 6
REAGAN = 6

Also, the Book of Revelation says that the Anti-Christ miraculously recovered from a fatal wound. Surgeons said that Reagan almost died.

Reagan fits the pattern.

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William Lewis  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:03:13am

re: #228 MsJ

You know, if i was a religious person, I would be thinking trump was the anti-christ about now. Truly so.

THE Anti-Christ? No, though he is certainly anti-christian in everything he does and, honestly even more importantly, in the things he doesn’t do. Things done and things left undone are equally sinful. But in the end, the important thing for Trump is that the Pulpit Pimps will help him get and maintain power which is vital to him for 1) destroying everything the N***** president achieved and 2) keeping his boss in Moscow pleased.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:04:46am

re: #231 William Lewis

THE Anti-Christ? No, though he is certainly anti-christian in everything he does and, honestly even more importantly, in the things he doesn’t do. Things done and things left undone are equally sinful. But in the end, the important thing for Trump is that the Pulpit Pimps will help him get and maintain power which is vital to him for 1) destroying everything the N***** president achieved and 2) keeping his boss in Moscow pleased.

There is nothing these fundies would like to see more than an authoritarian, oligarchic, theocratic state like Russia, except with Fundamenatlist Protestantism as the state religion instead of Russian Orthodoxy.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:06:54am

re: #232 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is nothing these fundies would like to see more than an authoritarian, oligarchic, theocratic state like Russia, except with Fundamenatlist Protestantism as the state religion instead of Russian Orthodoxy.

And they are succeeding with each passing day.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:10:39am

re: #227 ObserverArt

OSU wrestler Mike DiSabato is a very credible witness and (former?) friend to Jordan.

Jordan will have a very tough time making DiSabato look bad. If anything, he may have counted on his ‘friend’ to go along with the story.

The Nassar gymnastics abuse thing changed all of that.

It does not matter. The Republican Bullshit Machine will spin this as Godless Liberals framing Jim Jordan and the Crackers in the Republican Party will rally to his defense. Fox News will have their gasbags weigh in on poor innocent Jim Jordan being framed and then the topper comes as Franky Graham Cracker and his Pulpit Pimp Pals declare that God has absolved their beloved Jimmy of any sins.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:13:53am
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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:15:48am

re: #235 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

There’s a reason that the GOP is looking to pack the courts with right wing activists.

They want to kill Medicare/Medicaid/Obamacare and the rest of the safety net so that they can funnel even more money to millionaires while everyone else suffers from the burdens.

It’s what the GOP does.

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JordanRules  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:19:04am

Long thread. Good history.

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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:20:25am

re: #189 Barefoot Grin

Frontline and ProPublica are on the white supremacist movement, especially a group called Rise Above Movement, or RAM, which has been recruiting from violent Nazi-skinhead group in San Diego. They were active in Berkeley riots and in Charlottesville (RAM).

The guy in the read hat about to throw a soda can in the first link is a UC-Berkeley doctoral candidate in Astro-mechanical engineering (or something similar). He’s featured in the second link with a report that he holds security clearance as an employee with Northrup Grumman and the company (and our government) has down nothing about it.

pbs.org

pbs.org

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JordanRules  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:21:27am
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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:22:00am
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sagehen  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:22:11am

re: #174 MsJ

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No Boom Today…Boom Tomorrow

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William Lewis  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:22:25am

re: #234 Joe Bacon 🌹

It does not matter. The Republican Bullshit Machine will spin this as Godless Liberals framing Jim Jordan and the Crackers in the Republican Party will rally to his defense. Fox News will have their gasbags weigh in on poor innocent Jim Jordan being framed and then the topper comes as Franky Graham Cracker and his Pulpit Pimp Pals declare that God has absolved their beloved Jimmy of any sins.

OTOH, he may well be sin free but sitting in a prison cell for long enough to equal a life imprisonment.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:24:28am

re: #242 William Lewis

OTOH, he may well be sin free but sitting in a prison cell for long enough to equal a life imprisonment.

Won’t happen. Republicans are above the law.

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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:26:41am

re: #241 sagehen

A day in the future… complete with a big bada boom:

Susan Ivanova - “I Am Death Incarnate”

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:27:14am

Do you really want to salute a flag made in…CHINA?

As President Donald Trump levies tariffs and threats against China for “stealing American jobs,” a Chinese factory says it’s been hired to manufacture flags for Trump’s 2020 campaign, according to a Tuesday episode of NPR’s “Indicator” podcast.

Factory owner Li Jiang told NPR that his workers are producing hundreds of thousands of blue and white Trump flags similar to those they manufactured for his 2016 campaign. Per NPR, the Trump campaign ordered so many more flags than the Clinton campaign in 2016 that Chinese locals near the factory joked that they knew the outcome of the election before anyone.

Donald J. Trump for President, Inc., the committee organizing Trump’s reelect run, has publicly committed to buying American, saying that “we put America First and take great pride in selling 100% Made in the USA products to our supporters throughout the country.” It is unclear if the committee was the body that entered into the contract with the Chinese factory.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:28:08am

re: #243 Joe Bacon 🌹

Won’t happen. Republicans are above the law.

No, they’re not. They just act like they are.

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sagehen  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:28:45am

re: #216 Jay C

But yeah, what exactly is “fair”/”unfair” criticism of Donald Trump as POTUS? Policy? Efficiency? Ethics? Credibility? Personality? Political skills? Trump comes up short in every category when argued on facts: pissy grumping about the tone of the critiques is about all his defenders have left.

But he never put mustard on a hamburger, and he never wore a tan suit. So, y’know, that makes him “more American” than the other guy.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:30:27am

re: #247 sagehen

But he never put mustard on a hamburger, and he never wore a tan suit. So, y’know, that makes him “more American” than the other guy.

Republican Crackers will reply, “Yeah but he ain’t no colored Muslim Marxist!”

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JordanRules  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:32:19am
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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:34:56am

re: #249 JordanRules

Sounds like more for Kushner to do these days…

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:38:19am

re: #250 lawhawk

Sounds like more for Kushner to do these days…

I’m sure he’s up to snuff by now.///

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:40:12am

re: #240 lawhawk

“There are whole areas that are ‘no-go zones’ where Sharia Law MS-13 gangs controls the city.”

/

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:49:48am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:50:51am
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JordanRules  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:51:42am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:51:51am
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Jay C  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:52:59am

re: #234 Joe Bacon 🌹

It does not matter. The Republican Bullshit Machine will spin this as Godless Liberals framing Jim Jordan and the Crackers in the Republican Party will rally to his defense. Fox News will have their gasbags weigh in on poor innocent Jim Jordan being framed and then the topper comes as Franky Graham Cracker and his Pulpit Pimp Pals declare that God has absolved their beloved Jimmy of any sins.

I’m sure they will… right up until the exposure of the truth of the allegations forces Jordan to resign, after which it’ll be “Jim Who??”

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BeachDem  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:53:40am

re: #192 ObserverArt

They were friendly when DiSabato was on the wrestling team under Jordan as assistant coach. Jordan is scared because Mike DiSabato has a lot of power at OSU since he was an extremely successful wrestler.

Jordan is on the hot seat now. There are people in Columbus’ power structure that would probably love to see him gone out of politics.

Have coaches from any other sports spoken up? (I knew a lot of peeps at OSU during that time period—need to look for some familiar names.)

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Jay C  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:55:09am

re: #252 Sir John Barron

“There are whole areas that are ‘no-go zones’ where Sharia Law MS-13 gangs controls the city.”

/

Of course, these areas are all in San Salvador, but they DO exist!!1!!11!!

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JordanRules  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:58:03am

Oh the layers of irony. Bigot lady’s President couldn’t even get into his college of choice without Daddy’s coins.

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sagehen  Jul 5, 2018 • 9:58:17am

re: #256 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Wow. I never liked the guy, but still.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:01:13am

re: #256 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Wow.

Another too young.

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BeachDem  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:05:46am

re: #225 ObserverArt

Sad thing is, Jordan’s much gerrymandered district loves his act.

If anything happens, it will come from the Ohio Republican Party, the Columbus power people and Kasich all getting together to somehow bring him down.

I wonder if Boehner still holds any sway with Ohio Republicans. He is NOT a fan of Jordan’s—from 2017:

“F—- Jordan. F—- Chaffetz. They’re both a———-,” he said of Jordan and Chaffetz, a Utah Republican…

Boehner’s Politico interview revealed the ex-speaker’s deep feelings about Jordan, who he called “A terrorist. A legislative terrorist.”

daytondailynews.com

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ipsos  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:06:23am

re: #256 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

He was an interesting fellow. I never fully understood what drove him in all the different directions he took. Shame to see anyone go that young.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:07:25am

re: #261 sagehen

Wow. I never liked the guy, but still.

Yeah, was never a fan. Couldn’t watch his show when it was on MSNBC.
Held him in only marginally better esteem than I do Cenk Uygur. And, I’m not sure I would help Cenk up if he slipped on a banana peel in front of me.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:09:18am
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:09:49am

Ah well, what are ya gonna do (shrugs)….

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JordanRules  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:11:20am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:12:52am

re: #267 Barefoot Grin

Ah well, what are ya gonna do (shrugs)….

He was supposed to sell the stock by May…of 2017 I would presume for this tweet to be meaningful.

Anyway, yeah, I always have this problem, when people tell me the stock I own is a conflict of interest and I accidentally hang onto it until the price gets higher. /

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:14:35am

re: #266 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

It’s official: “President Donald J. Trump announced today that Bill Shine will join the White House staff. Mr. Shine will serve as Assistant to the President and Deputy Chief of Staff for Communications.”

— Brian Stelter

Translation: We had to dig down to the bottom of the barrel to get our next Assistant Com person, but we finally found someone to take the job.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:14:40am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:15:10am

re: #268 JordanRules

The number one thing voters in states like Oklahoma, West Virginia, and Arizona want to talk about is education. It’s no wonder that the teachers running for office are catching fire.

Because they understand that education is an investment that benefits everyone, not just another business expense to be slashed to increase profits for those in charge.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:15:14am

re: #271 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Does AJ know that we control the Deep State?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:15:58am

re: #271 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Alex Jones explains how yesterday really was the beginning of the second civil war. It was a just a “soft start,” and the beginning of when a “cold civil war” would turn “hot.” He says the starting date of the first civil war was vague too.

On to Richmond!!!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:18:07am

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JordanRules  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:20:24am
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JordanRules  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:22:43am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:23:50am

re: #275 Joe Bacon 🌹

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False flag(s). Where’s the gun rack?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:24:44am

re: #276 JordanRules

We could go on with this forever, that’s just a taste. More than ever, it’s the Fox News presidency

Under Bush, Fox was the media wing of the GOP

Under Trump, the GOP is the political wing of FNC

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:25:12am

re: #274 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

On to Richmond!!!

‘…the Richmond Examiner proclaimed “one wild shout of fierce resolve to capture Washington City, at all and every human hazard. That filthy cage of unclean birds must and will be purified by fire.” ‘

h/t: Shelby Foote

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danarchy  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:26:05am

re: #275 Joe Bacon 🌹

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The truck is made in Mississippi, the profit is made in Japan.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:26:10am

Awwww. Widdle Jimmy Woods has a sad…

James Woods has been dropped by his talent agent, and received the announcement in an email sent during the Fourth of July holiday. The Oscar-nominated actor shared a screenshot of the email with the subject line “Well…” on his personal Twitter account.

The agent, Ken Kaplan, said that he’d come to the decision to no longer represent the outspoken conservative star because he was “feeling patriotic.” “It’s the 4th of July and I’m feeling patriotic,” Kaplan wrote. “I don’t want to represent you anymore. I mean I can go on a rant but you know what I’d say.”

joemygod.com

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:26:39am

re: #275 Joe Bacon 🌹

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A seven-star version of the Stars and Bars? Wow, that’s from before Virginia seceded, I think.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:28:05am

re: #283 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

A seven-star version of the Stars and Bars? Wow, that’s from before Virginia seceded, I think.

They do not count former Confederate states that accepted Medicaid expansion…

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:28:28am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:33:06am

Sanity break.

Or cardiovascular feast of doom break. Take your pick.

Binging with Babish: Fried Chicken Lasagna & The Luther Burger from the Boondocks

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:33:15am

re: #282 Joe Bacon 🌹

Awwww. Widdle Jimmy Woods has a sad…

James Woods has been dropped by his talent agent, and received the announcement in an email sent during the Fourth of July holiday. The Oscar-nominated actor shared a screenshot of the email with the subject line “Well…” on his personal Twitter account.

The agent, Ken Kaplan, said that he’d come to the decision to no longer represent the outspoken conservative star because he was “feeling patriotic.” “It’s the 4th of July and I’m feeling patriotic,” Kaplan wrote. “I don’t want to represent you anymore. I mean I can go on a rant but you know what I’d say.”

joemygod.com

CENSORSHIP!!! PERSECUTION!!! BLACKLISTING!!!!

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:34:08am

re: #282 Joe Bacon 🌹

Awwww. Widdle Jimmy Woods has a sad…

James Woods has been dropped by his talent agent, and received the announcement in an email sent during the Fourth of July holiday. The Oscar-nominated actor shared a screenshot of the email with the subject line “Well…” on his personal Twitter account.

The agent, Ken Kaplan, said that he’d come to the decision to no longer represent the outspoken conservative star because he was “feeling patriotic.” “It’s the 4th of July and I’m feeling patriotic,” Kaplan wrote. “I don’t want to represent you anymore. I mean I can go on a rant but you know what I’d say.”

joemygod.com

And this is when Liberals started the second civil war between the states by **squints** banning actor James Woods from Hollywood.

///

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gocart mozart  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:34:33am
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wrenchwench  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:35:49am

re: #285 I Would Prefer Not To

[Lions kill and eat rhino poachers at South Africa nature reserve rawstory.com…]

Lions don’t cook, so, naturally it’a on Raw Story.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:37:21am

re: #289 gocart mozart

Do you realize how screwed up your moral compass is?

I’m actually pretty good with my moral compass, mister snowflake, thank you.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:37:29am

re: #288 Sir John Barron

And this is when Liberals started the second civil war between the states by **squints** banning actor James Woods from Hollywood.

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Business owners should be free to refuse service to anyone, we’re told, but I’m sure that doesn’t apply to talent agents somehow….

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:37:30am

re: #290 wrenchwench

Lions don’t cook, so, naturally it’a on Raw Story.re: #290 wrenchwench

Lions don’t cook, so, naturally it’a on Raw Story.

Did you take Pride in that joke?

Is your favorite Eagles song “Lion Eyes?”

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wrenchwench  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:39:16am

re: #293 I Would Prefer Not To

Did you take Pride in that joke?

Well, I’d be lion if I said no.

Now I’m ashamed.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:39:20am

re: #289 gocart mozart

A lot of people don’t think there is a significant moral difference between needlessly hunting a deer and hunting a rhino—but okay, let’s assume that hunting a rhino is worse than hunting a deer for sport. Why think it’s a capital offense meriting a brutal death?

— John Bowling

Maybe because it’s a case of someone getting what they deserved, you know, someone who’s armed trying to kill an innocent victim.

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sagehen  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:40:19am

re: #285 I Would Prefer Not To

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Are the rhinos now indebted to the lions? What sort of compensation will Simba demand?

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gocart mozart  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:41:43am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:42:48am

re: #296 sagehen

Are the rhinos now indebted to the lions? What sort of compensation will Simba demand?

Doesn’t matter, the rhinos will just charge it.

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wrenchwench  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:44:16am

re: #298 I Would Prefer Not To

Doesn’t matter, the rhinos will just charge it.

Your turn on shame.

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gocart mozart  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:46:16am
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Single-handed sailor  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:48:21am

Of course he did.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:51:43am

re: #301 Single-handed sailor

Of course he did.

I thought the Saudis were our newest buddies, thanks to That Guy’s trip over there a few months ago where all the people cheered him and stuff.

/

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MsJ  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:51:56am

re: #265 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Yeah, was never a fan. Couldn’t watch his show when it was on MSNBC.
Held him in only marginally better esteem than I do Cenk Uygur. And, I’m not sure I would help Cenk up if he slipped on a banana peel in front of me.

Shultz was on whatever side would make him money. He was loud but not smart or informed, neither of which does anything for the cause.

I would take one Chris Hayes or Rachel Maddow over 100 Shultz’ because loud and stupid is the conservative way.

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gocart mozart  Jul 5, 2018 • 10:52:31am

This school could make a killing selling to the QAnon freaks but at what cost to be associated with them
bkstr.com

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gocart mozart  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:04:10am
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gocart mozart  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:04:36am
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gocart mozart  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:06:09am

This

got me a 12 hr Twitter limitation. Holy arbitrary and capricious standards, Jack

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JordanRules  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:07:19am

re: #307 gocart mozart

This

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got me a 12 hr Twitter limitation. Holy arbitrary and capricious standards, Jack

Wow. SMDH

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:08:21am

re: #289 gocart mozart

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:08:48am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:10:22am

re: #309 Belafon

So you support capital punishment and think that poaching should be a capital crime—and apparently you support painful, torturorous death as an appropriate means of capital punishment. Okay, but what’s your argument for that?

Serious flaw in this logic: These people were not executed, they took a risk in order to make a profit and the outcome turned bad on them. That is not capital punishment, it is just business in its most primal form.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:11:02am

re: #309 Belafon

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:12:15am

re: #302 Sir John Barron

I thought the Saudis were our newest buddies, thanks to That Guy’s trip over there a few months ago where all the people cheered him and stuff.

/

You’re only a buddy of Trump if you can either intimidate him or he can intimidate you.

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gocart mozart  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:13:17am
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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:14:45am

re: #258 BeachDem

Have coaches from any other sports spoken up? (I knew a lot of peeps at OSU during that time period—need to look for some familiar names.)

Sorry, got busy.

No I have not heard of any other coaches saying anything.

As you know, OSU is so big that all the major sports have their own departments and facilities.

So things could probably be kept secret to those individual departments.

This broke in early April of this year. It would not surprise me if someone else comes forward and gives more details of what all happened. The fact that it is a male sport, some of those abused may just keep it quiet forever. It might be the old suck it up and just live with it, it was all the past kind of thinking.

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gocart mozart  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:16:05am
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jaunte  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:16:57am

Will Trump supporters stay with him as they go broke?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:17:54am

re: #317 jaunte

Will Trump supporters stay with him as they go broke?

Yes, unlike his business partners, these people believe in him.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:19:11am

re: #318 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Have reporters found a victim of the Trump U scam who’s still a fan?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:19:31am

re: #317 jaunte

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Will Trump supporters stay with him as they go broke?

They’ll just blame it on Obama or Obama’s immediate predecessor, Bill Clinton.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:22:15am
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BeachDem  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:22:50am

re: #315 ObserverArt

Sorry, got busy.

No I have not heard of any other coaches saying anything.

As you know, OSU is so big that all the major sports have their own departments and facilities.

So things could probably be kept secret to those individual departments.

This broke in early April of this year. It would not surprise me if someone else comes forward and gives more details of what all happened. The fact that it is a male sport, some of those abused may just keep it quiet forever. It might be the old suck it up and just live with it, it was all the past kind of thinking.

Thanks for the info—I thought I read somewhere that there were complaints about him (the doc, not Jordan) from football, cheerleading and other sports groups as well.

Wish I hadn’t lost contact with my friend who is the daughter of a longtime big-sport OSU coach. Would be interesting to get her take.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:23:49am

re: #319 jaunte

Have reporters found a victim of the Trump U scam who’s still a fan?

“Look, there are a lot of things I don’t like about DJT, but blaming DJT for his University is very unfair.”

/

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Charles Johnson  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:24:05am
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:24:22am

re: #317 jaunte

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Will Trump supporters stay with him as they go broke?

yes

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:24:48am

re: #317 jaunte

Will Trump supporters stay with him as they go broke?

As long as he keeps his promise to get rid of all the colored folk and immigrants.

/

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Shropshire Slasher  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:25:28am

re: #321 Single-handed sailor

Damn, a year old and I already forget the cast of characters. I should have purchased a playbill.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:26:29am

I feel like if Chuck Wookie Johnson and Roger Stone were reinstated on twitter today—they’d probably be fine.

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Citizen K  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:29:09am

re: #328 Barefoot Grin

I feel like if Chuck Wookie Johnson and Roger Stone were reinstated on twitter today—they’d probably be fine.

Fine nothing. They’d be verified.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:30:22am

re: #317 jaunte

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Will Trump supporters stay with him as they go broke?

In Western PA, Unemployed millworkers stuck with Republicans through thick and thin!

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:30:58am

re: #330 Joe Bacon 🌹

And we know Trump Digs Coal.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:31:08am

Kleen Koal.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:31:16am

re: #324 Charles Johnson

As a side-note, writing fart-jokes for stoners elevated Seth to the point where he can have a dialogue with @jack who influences the nation. Why are we supposed to care about this mad world, anyway?

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gocart mozart  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:34:57am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:36:40am

re: #333 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

As a side-note, writing fart-jokes for stoners elevated Seth to the point where he can have a dialogue with @jack who influences the nation. Why are we supposed to care about this mad world, anyway?

Welcome to Ayn Rand’s World!

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Charles Johnson  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:36:42am
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jaunte  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:37:55am

Putin’s response to our labor shortage would be to amp up agitation about immigrants.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:39:29am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:40:09am

re: #289 gocart mozart

This John character is proof positive the conservatives don’t grok logic, to whit:

@JesusHCristo

Being killed by a lion because you illegally entered the lion’s habitat in an attempt to illegally kill an animal is closer to suicide than “capital punishment.” That was a stupid analogy you made, just admit it and move on.

@JohnRBowling
Replying to @JesusHCristos and @edroso
This is the same line of logic people use when they blame the way a woman dresses when she gets raped.

To apply comparative logic to a woman mode dressing and someone attempting to rape her would have the woman shredding the would be rapist. John’s attempt at “logic” makes the woman the killed poachers. The animals enacted retribution on their Rhino friend being hunted; the poachers were doing something illegal, not the lions.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:41:15am
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gocart mozart  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:41:19am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:42:53am

re: #314 gocart mozart

Guess you could call what Dumbledore is doing as “smiling”, but that is generous.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:43:26am

re: #339 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I wonder if he complains about getting stung when he crushes a wasp nest.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:44:06am

re: #340 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Gretchen chose to work for abusive Conservatives.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:44:33am

I would like to have the final word on this subject…

re: #311 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Serious flaw in this logic: These people were not executed, they took a risk in order to make a profit and the outcome turned bad on them. That is not capital punishment, it is just business in its most primal form.

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DodgerFan1988  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:45:13am
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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:45:25am

re: #317 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Will Trump supporters stay with him as they go broke?

It’s not about facts or logic. Trump claims he can win a trade war and it’s taken as an article of faith. They believe he can do it, despite all facts or evidence to the contrary.

There’s no amount of facts or statistics that will convince these true-believers otherwise.

That’s the problem. Trump knows that his marks will take him at his word even as he changes it regularly and for all his America First claptrap, he’s actively undermining US national security and economic dominance on a daily basis.

There’s no reason the GOP should continue following Trump, except that they believe him when he says (white) America First.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:46:38am
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JordanRules  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:47:00am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:49:42am

re: #341 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

Of course. Interesting read thanks.

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JordanRules  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:51:25am
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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:53:54am

re: #348 jaunte

[Embedded content]

“One of protectionism’s “unseen” harms: the investments never made.”

Like the steel plants that Trump claimed US steel was going to build. What if the next administration removes the Orange Idiot’s tariffs, where would that leave US Steel?

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:55:00am
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Belafon  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:55:39am

re: #351 JordanRules

If you look at a larger version of the ad, adsoftheworld.com, you will see two women beside her. Who are they?

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gocart mozart  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:58:02am
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Belafon  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:59:32am

re: #355 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

I love the “I could go on a rant” part.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:59:54am

re: #355 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

Good luck James. You’re going to need it.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 5, 2018 • 11:59:55am

re: #345 I Would Prefer Not To

Mother Nature is a child abuser.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:00:54pm
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Single-handed sailor  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:04:00pm

OK then, we really need to start jailing these executive cabinet scofflaws.

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KGxvi  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:05:03pm

re: #337 jaunte

A lot of issues are more closely related than people recognize at first blush. That idea has been floating around in my mind as I contemplate Trump’s potential Supreme Court nominee.

This has real potential to be a moment of the conservative dog catching the abortion tire. How they end up justifying repealing an unenumerated constitutional right will have wide ranging implications. And whatever reasoning they use will immediately become the basis of hundreds of other challenges. The only way it doesn’t is if they rule that the right to due process exists at the moment of conception (thus outlawing abortion nationwide), and then that opens the door to all kinds of crazy laws. Perhaps they are all really nhillists now, and don’t fucking care, but the federalist society types I knew in law school would have thought long and hard about the ramifications. It’s a lot easier to complain about an issue or criticize reasoning on a decision when you can’t overturn it

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:05:06pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:05:59pm

As usual, New York Times reporter is a total dick when criticized.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:06:42pm

re: #349 JordanRules

Serial killer!! Lol.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:06:58pm

re: #353 Single-handed sailor

This so-called trade war with China is a deep state lie false flag to distract us from the second civil war started by the liberals yesterday.

///

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:09:17pm
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Belafon  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:10:45pm

Also in that ad campaign:

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:12:46pm

re: #359 Charles Johnson

2) Dated (The Remembrance Project no longer serves as the liaison between Trump & most of these families).

This is a rather strange retort. So TRP “no longer” serves as the liaison? Which means they at one time did serve as liaison. That seems important.

It also isn’t clear why the NYT writer assumes the “liaison” role should be permanent to be valid. If having performed a liaison role, of making the introductions, so to speak, it would make sense for TRP to not be officially involved anymore. The RP connection would still be valid, in other words.

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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:13:11pm

re: #354 Belafon

That’s taken from the original at NASA. I’m not sure who the other women are, as one could be Dorothy Vaughan, or someone else entirely.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:14:25pm

re: #369 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

That’s taken from the original at NASA. I’m not sure who the other women are, as one could be Dorothy Vaughan, or someone else entirely.

Although she wasn’t a scientist. I was always proud that my great aunt was involved with the Apollo projects of the 60’s. Never got to know her that well since she died when i was a little kid but still awesome.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:14:52pm

re: #366 Single-handed sailor

DJT: Hah! Just shows you how much you know. Higher oil prices are good for American oil producers, so MAGA!

//

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lawhawk  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:14:55pm

re: #363 Charles Johnson

As usual, New York Times reporter is a total dick when criticized.

It’s reflex with them. How dare you mere mortals question the deciders at the Times.

How dare you question their questionable reporting, or prioritization of what gets to A1 and what gets buried in A30 (you see, we reported, and we decided that no one needs to pay attention to the details when the issue is all about the details).

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:14:55pm

re: #369 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

That’s taken from the original at NASA. I’m not sure who the other women are, as one could be Dorothy Vaughan, or someone else entirely.

If you look right in the middle of the original image, there’s a white woman sitting at the consoles. Someone was saying that they believe she was the “face” of the computing group.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:16:15pm

I think it’s pretty sad how the Times are more rude to people who mere criticize them than people who call them the enemies of the people- Trump and his cult.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:17:36pm

re: #373 Belafon

If you look right in the middle of the image, there’s a white woman sitting at the consoles. Someone was saying that they believe she was the “face” of the computing group.

Margaret Hamilton?

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:22:13pm

re: #374 HappyWarrior

I think it’s pretty sad how the Times are more rude to people who mere criticize them than people who call them the enemies of the people- Trump and his cult.

It’s frustrating and inexplicable. Trump seems to have figured out that no matter how much he insults them, they’ll defend his regime.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:24:27pm

re: #363 Charles Johnson

It’s unclear what significant fact he thinks has changed about the story.

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:25:12pm

re: #336 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson

@Green_Footballs
So Bill Shine gets fired for helping cover up the culture of sexual abuse and harassment at Fox News, and goes right to work for the Trump administration as communications director. Sounds about right for this gang of crooks and goons.

2:35 PM - Jul 5, 2018

He can use all of his experience to help cover up sexual abuse and harassment along with the facts of all the ongoing criminal activity in the Trump administration.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:27:08pm

re: #368 Sir John Barron

This is a rather strange retort. So TRP “no longer” serves as the liaison? Which means they at one time did serve as liaison. That seems important.

It also isn’t clear why the NYT writer assumes the “liaison” role should be permanent to be valid. If having performed a liaison role, of making the introductions, so to speak, it would make sense for TRP to not be officially involved anymore. The RP connection would still be valid, in other words.

There’s also the issue of taking at face value the claims of a far right group with ties to white nationalists. Like a lot of these hate groups, the Remembrance Project is always shifting things around, renaming things, etc. They do this deliberately to fool reporters like Ken Vogel, and it obviously works.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:27:50pm

re: #377 jaunte

It’s unclear what significant fact he thinks has changed about the story.

Yeah, I don’t get it either.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:28:41pm

Ken Vogel, lost in a world of dark money and shell corporations.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:31:00pm

re: #375 The Vicious Babushka

Margaret Hamilton?

Hamilton was at MIT in 1962, when Glenn launched. This is what she looked like in 69, which doesn’t match that woman:

Edited slightly.

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Kragar  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:31:24pm
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Charles Johnson  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:33:14pm

re: #381 jaunte

Ken Vogel, lost in a world of dark money and shell corporations.

I don’t understand how someone can write an article about these “Angel Families” feeling used and exploited by Trump, then a year later write this kind of happy horseshit parroting their own propaganda and picturing Trump as if he actually cares about these people.

It’s just fucking unreal to me how strange the New York Times has gotten lately. It’s like a journalists’ version of Stockholm Syndrome.

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Kragar  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:33:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:35:03pm

re: #385 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Of course.

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gocart mozart  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:36:04pm

This is very sophisticated propaganda (Russian?) and it’s scary how many people are buying into it.
(don’t know why Maddow appears, it’s about Q”s plot to save the world.
At least we (The Deep State) have both the Pope and Justin Beiber on our side.

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:36:31pm
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calochortus  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:36:39pm

re: #353 Single-handed sailor

[Embedded content]

For the record, most Freepers have been extolling the damage to pork producers because it means there will be a lot of pork dumped on the American market, so never mind the damage to farmers and processors, there will be cheap pork for a few months.
Hurrah!

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Kragar  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:36:40pm
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Kragar  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:39:26pm

BREAKING

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:40:33pm

re: #388 jaunte

[Embedded content]

So federal income tax and birthright citizenship is cool now? What an idiot.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:41:12pm

re: #387 gocart mozart

This is very sophisticated propaganda (Russian?) and it’s scary how many people are buying into it.

At least we (The Deep State) have both the Pope and Justin Beiber on our side.

[Embedded content]

Not quite sure what people are suddenly buying into, but I like this:

Dyson added: “Until white folk like you can stand up and find your spine, you will continue to be complicit in the racist animus of this country.”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:41:22pm

re: #391 Kragar

BREAKING

Resigning to spend more time with his family or to prepare for his Attorney General confirmation hearings I wonder.

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EPR-radar  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:41:50pm

re: #384 Charles Johnson

On the subject of the NYT, the RudePundit was very entertaining on the subject of an earlier episode of NYT Trump-voter whispering. rudepundit.blogspot.com

In order to support President Donald Trump, you must be a racist. That is clearly a truth at this point, since Trump continues to do and say extravagantly racist shit. If you are still a Trumpster, it means you’re cool with racism. Ergo, you’re racist. Do we even need to argue about that anymore? (And if you’re a Trump supporter reading this and thinking, “Not me,” let me assure you: “Especially you.”)

If we take that as a truism, it is also a truism that most of Trump’s voters will do anything to avoid saying that it’s racism that drives them. They’ll come up with bullshit theories about working class anxiety or the desire for a leader who talks like them or whatever. Fuck all that. It’s the racism.

The latest example of this self-contortion is in today’s New York Times (motto: “One day we’ll get those two Trump voters in Kansas to subscribe”). It’s an opinion piece by Matthew Schmitz, who is the editor of First Things. Like me, you may have asked yourself, “The fuck is First Things?” And, if you’re like me, you google that shit and find out that it proclaims itself, “America’s Most Influential Journal of Religion and Public Life,” which is not unlike calling your dog, “America’s Cutest Little Wuggums That I Ever Snuggled.” In other words, it’s totally subjective and, really, who the fuck cares?

And what does the “most influenza kernel of rimjobs and pubic lice” have to say about, you know, stuff? Well, let’s see here. There’s this thing about making the United States a Christian nation, where you can read totally not fucking crazy things like “We hope for an America conformed to the reality that Jesus is Lord.” Or the multiple anti-abortion pieces where they are creaming in their Dockers at the idea of overturning Roe. They see their chance now and they are fresh out of fucks: “Now is not the time for compromise or worries about breaking the peace that Roe has brought us.” A bit uncivil for a religion journal, no?

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:42:23pm

re: #390 Kragar

Yep, he’s a fake.

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Bubblehead II  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:42:25pm

Wonder when the indictments will be coming down.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:43:15pm

re: #396 jaunte

Yep, he’s a fake.

[Embedded content]

What a hack.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:44:34pm

re: #397 Bubblehead II

Finally!! It’s about dang time.

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austin_blue  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:44:50pm

re: #391 Kragar

BREAKING

[Embedded content]

Waiting for a second source, but…

Yay! Hallelujah!

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:45:14pm

“Hey kid, you’re separated from Mami and Papi, maybe forever, it’s cold and you have a silver plastic blanket, but you might get a bed in a few days and there’s food.”
— Yes I’m A Real-Life Democrat

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:45:29pm

Don’t be surprised if he’s brought back in a role he doesn’t have to be confirmed for.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:45:48pm

re: #396 jaunte

Progressives Conservatives have been sounding the alarm about Nazi-like camps & tactics run by FEMA for some time now #ImmigrantChildren along the border.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:45:55pm

re: #401 jaunte

“Hey kid, you’re separated from Mami and Papi, maybe forever, it’s cold and you have a silver plastic blanket, but you might get a bed in a few days and there’s food.”
— Yes I’m A Real-Life Democrat

Yeah what a dick.

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Belafon  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:46:10pm

re: #388 jaunte

“The Republican party has never changed!”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:46:51pm

re: #405 Belafon

“The Republican party has never changed!”

Did you know the Democrat party was KKK?

////

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jaunte  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:47:15pm
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Sir John Barron  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:48:18pm

re: #391 Kragar

BREAKING

The best people….

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ObserverArt  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:49:36pm

re: #344 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Gretchen chose to work for abusive Conservatives.

Gretchen Carlson has not actually learned a damn thing about Fox News and abusive conservatives. It’s still part of the ‘old boys club’ and it will remain until a certain generation dies out completely.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:50:41pm

re: #402 HappyWarrior

Don’t be surprised if he’s brought back in a role he doesn’t have to be confirmed for.

If Trump could get him into the AG position, he could fire Rosenstein.

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Patricia Kayden  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:53:30pm

re: #395 EPR-radar

“In order to support President Donald Trump, you must be a racist.”

Because it’s more than a coincidence that White Supremacists and Neo Nazis are all infor Trump. Birds of a feather, flock together.

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A Mom Anon  Jul 5, 2018 • 12:58:21pm

re: #402 HappyWarrior

Yeah, these people tend to just burrow in deeper and continue to do damage where it’s less visible. Look at Bolton, Ailes, Cheney and so on, they scurried around behind the scenes for decades. It’s who they are and what they do.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 5, 2018 • 1:20:33pm

re: #354 Belafon

If you look at a larger version of the ad, adsoftheworld.com, you will see two women beside her. Who are they?

there is another woman in the center of the photo.


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